The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1308

00:00:00.000 Hello everyone, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seaters.

00:00:23.580 This is Tuesday the 2nd of December 2025.

00:00:27.180 I'm your host Stelios and I'm joined today by Josh and Dan.

00:00:31.840 And we're going to discuss the European establishment's panic about the rise of the AFD, what this shows

00:00:38.020 about Western politics and how to fix Germany and Europe and the West.

00:00:42.960 And I think it's fairly easy.

00:00:45.180 It's very minimalistic.

00:00:46.520 I'm going to give you some suggestions because I don't like always whining all the time without

00:00:51.780 giving practical solutions.

00:00:53.460 I want practical solutions.

00:00:55.020 Does it press the fix everything button?

00:00:57.680 No, it's a bit more complicated than that, but not very complicated.

00:01:02.680 Right.

00:01:03.680 So we're going to start with Germany.

00:01:05.380 We are going to talk about the AFD and what is happening with it.

00:01:10.000 Then use this as a springboard for discussion about European politics and Western politics

00:01:16.340 and discuss about some very worrying trends displayed in Western politics and especially

00:01:24.260 how the establishment is trying to guide the narrative and guide people's attention towards

00:01:31.840 these particular matters and try to obfuscate the actual issues.

00:01:38.080 So I'm going to start talking about the AFD and everyone is panicking about it, about its rise.

00:01:44.500 And let me show you in the federal elections of 2021, they scored 10.2 percent.

00:01:50.500 It's not bad, but it's still not enough necessarily to be the dominant force in politics, certainly

00:01:57.320 with all of those other parties.

00:02:00.000 And of course, it's worth mentioning if you're from outside of Europe, lots of continental

00:02:03.940 European countries have more representative systems.

00:02:07.380 And so there are lots of multiple parties in which they have to go into coalition with

00:02:11.320 one another.

00:02:11.760 It's basically impossible in the German system to have a majority government.

00:02:17.360 I think their sort of federal chambers operate on a system where half of it is elected by

00:02:22.860 the region as a first part of the post, but the other half is a party list.

00:02:26.300 So you're guaranteed to have a coalition of some sort.

00:02:29.120 But I mean, that stat that you just showed us with the 10 percent, I mean, back when that

00:02:33.540 happened, all the other parties basically went out and said, OK, well, we're going to never

00:02:39.800 work with the AFD, we're going to give a commitment that we will never form a coalition with them.

00:02:44.500 Now, you can get away with that when they're scoring 10 percent.

00:02:48.100 So hopefully for their benefit, it hasn't gone up since then.

00:02:50.920 No, it has gone up because I showed you the 2021 federal elections.

00:02:55.240 In the 2025 federal elections, they scored 20.1.

00:02:59.640 Oh, dear.

00:03:00.440 And right now they are scoring really well on the polls.

00:03:05.960 For some reason, nothing works here.

00:03:09.800 Oh, well, we don't need technology.

00:03:13.800 It was manufactured in Germany, I imagine.

00:03:16.300 Right.

00:03:16.620 So let me just use this mouse.

00:03:20.680 Right.

00:03:21.360 Well, the Germans used to be quite good at making things.

00:03:23.320 I think these are all Taiwanese or something.

00:03:26.260 Right.

00:03:26.540 OK.

00:03:26.840 So right now we have 26 percent, the AFD, according to some polls, ahead of the coalition

00:03:33.020 CDU, CSU, which is supposed to be the sort of center-right coalition, something like the

00:03:40.160 Tories of the UK.

00:03:41.960 But the thing is, one of the important things is a lot of these continental parties, obviously,

00:03:48.680 they need to go into coalition with their more center-right sort of, I want to say comrades,

00:03:58.480 but not really.

00:03:59.360 They're sort of left-wing in some ways.

00:04:01.520 But the problem is that, as we've seen as a sort of demonstrable trend, particularly in

00:04:07.620 France, is that all parties will try and gatekeep out the most right-wing party, and they'll

00:04:14.800 go into coalition with people who would normally be their political enemies, but it's sort of

00:04:19.140 like a no enemies to my left scenario, whereby as long as the nasty right-wing party's not getting

00:04:24.740 in, they don't really mind.

00:04:26.500 They'll go into coalition with the far-left.

00:04:28.560 You can see this with the deal Macron did with some very left-wing...

00:04:32.860 Well, in the case of Germany, this is leading these nonsense situations where you've got

00:04:35.600 the CDU, which, like you say, is some version of the Tories.

00:04:39.240 I mean, it's really the Church of Merkel, is what it is.

00:04:42.100 They started off as a sort of Christian-Conservative party, but they sort of abandoned basically

00:04:45.880 all of that.

00:04:47.060 They're going into alliance with the SDP, the sort of German Labour, but also the FDP

00:04:52.720 go in there, who are supposed to be sort of, you know, free marketeers, and the bloody

00:04:58.340 Green Party, they're all about de-industrialisation in the industrial heartland of Europe.

00:05:03.800 So you get these nonsensical coalitions being formed just to try and keep the AFDO.

00:05:10.620 And I mean, I know you're talking about the federal elections here, but I mean, it's even

00:05:13.960 more stark in the regions, in the states.

00:05:16.460 They've got 16 states.

00:05:17.560 And in the case of the eastern part of Germany, the former eastern states, you know, AFD is

00:05:24.140 now regularly getting, you know, well above 30 percent.

00:05:27.220 Yeah, it has won in several regional elections.

00:05:31.820 Well, he's come first.

00:05:32.860 What?

00:05:33.200 Yeah.

00:05:33.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:34.660 Not quite the same as winning, because they get blocked out, so they don't actually form

00:05:38.280 governments.

00:05:39.020 So what both of you are talking about is the coalition.

00:05:41.700 And this is one of the major issues in German politics, and this is one of the reasons why

00:05:46.420 the AFD is rising all the time, because these coalitions form together and everyone sees

00:05:53.240 them as acting together.

00:05:55.300 And it is usually an issue of who just leads the coalition, because before we had the SPD

00:06:02.780 that was leading the coalition.

00:06:04.860 We had Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

00:06:07.400 Now they lost, and we have the CDU leading the coalition, but they are governing with the

00:06:13.160 same party.

00:06:14.280 So it looks like they are just in it together, and they form the establishment, what in some

00:06:20.280 circles some people discuss as the uniparty, and all that actually changes is who leads

00:06:26.240 it, whether it's going to be the leader of the more centre-right or the leader of the

00:06:30.280 more centre-left.

00:06:31.100 And the absurd thing here is as well that it's basically a coalition of neoliberals, and

00:06:38.720 they're gatekeeping out the AFD, trying to make out that they're the scary far-right

00:06:42.880 party.

00:06:43.460 They're basically the National Socialists all over again, when actually you read their

00:06:47.260 manifesto, and they're classical liberals.

00:06:49.760 They're still within the liberal framework of Germany, which its constitution enforces.

00:06:54.980 I mean, I'm not going to use the term neoliberal to discuss them, because I think that's a BS term

00:06:59.480 that the left is using all the time to discuss, to describe everything they dislike, just

00:07:04.840 like some right-wingers use liberalism to describe anything they dislike.

00:07:10.520 But yeah, we do have, let's say, social democrats and centre-right people, and the centre-right

00:07:16.820 in Europe seems to be ideologically tied in a sort of, not ideologically, but habitually

00:07:24.480 tied in a long process of trying to signal virtue to the centre-left.

00:07:29.720 So we have, just like the Tories right now, they try to out-left Labour.

00:07:35.880 Lots of centre-right conservatives, within quotation marks, in Europe are trying to show that they

00:07:42.500 are multicultural.

00:07:43.420 But they're only centre-right, really, in the existing paradigm of politics.

00:07:48.860 They're not necessarily, if you look at the vast sum of all that is possible in the world

00:07:53.160 of politics, they wouldn't necessarily be classified as centre-right.

00:07:56.460 Even if you look, I don't know, 70 years ago, they'd be seen as radically left-wing, wouldn't

00:08:02.960 they?

00:08:03.160 Are you hinting that no extant German political party has what it takes to save Germany at

00:08:08.440 this point?

00:08:09.660 Well, I think their best chance is potentially the AFD, but I understand that their hands

00:08:15.220 are somewhat tied, given the way in which Germany is structured post-war.

00:08:21.400 Right, so here we have another poll that says that the AFD scores 27%.

00:08:25.940 There are several polls that say that it's, right now, the number one party in Germany.

00:08:31.500 And it keeps rising.

00:08:33.060 In the federal elections I showed before of 2021, they were at 10.2%.

00:08:38.360 Then they went to 20.6%.

00:08:41.580 They nearly doubled.

00:08:43.340 No, actually, they more than doubled their percentage.

00:08:46.140 Now they seem to be close to 26%, 27%.

00:08:49.360 Which means that unless the CDU change course, yeah, the rise of the AFD will keep happening.

00:08:57.260 And people like Robin Brooks are asking themselves,

00:09:00.100 There's only one question for Germany.

00:09:02.900 What policies will stop the inexorable rise of the AFD, which is heading for 30% in the

00:09:08.860 polls?

00:09:09.580 This will literally tip Europe if it continues.

00:09:12.740 Germany, with AFD in government, won't stand up to Russia.

00:09:16.280 And it also won't stick with the euro.

00:09:18.300 I hope it won't literally tip Europe.

00:09:20.060 I mean, that would be some major geological change if that were to happen.

00:09:23.920 It would.

00:09:24.360 So I think you might be exaggerating.

00:09:25.780 Yes.

00:09:26.900 But the point he's making isn't necessarily untrue.

00:09:30.880 That with the AFD leading in Germany, Germany tended to be the sort of, it tends to be the

00:09:38.820 center of Europe, both geographically and politically a lot of the time.

00:09:44.140 But also it's funding Europe.

00:09:45.220 Exactly.

00:09:46.380 And I think that that's why it has that power in the first place, is that it has the economic

00:09:49.980 power.

00:09:50.780 Of course, this is also waning, but still the rest of Europe isn't exactly doing too well

00:09:55.420 relatively anyway.

00:09:57.180 There are some success stories.

00:09:58.780 I know that Poland is still doing quite well.

00:10:01.480 Denmark's doing quite well.

00:10:02.540 So there are two border countries with Germany that seem to be doing okay.

00:10:07.640 Although, of course, there are questions about the migration to both of those still.

00:10:12.160 Yeah, I think that this rises in some respects really close to the rise of reform in the UK.

00:10:18.480 And if we are to make this, let's say, analogy, we have to ask, you know, what sort of people

00:10:26.140 vote for reform or who wants to go and vote for reform?

00:10:30.360 And I think that something very similar happens in Germany.

00:10:35.240 So...

00:10:35.480 Well, I mean, the polling in both cases is led by young men.

00:10:38.840 Yes.

00:10:39.080 But also, I think you mentioned in a previous conversation we had with Carl, either you

00:10:43.620 or Carl, said that Lib Dems are British people with gardens.

00:10:47.940 And when it comes to reform, it's British people without gardens.

00:10:52.700 Yes.

00:10:53.160 Yes?

00:10:53.860 I think that this is really insightful.

00:10:56.900 Because when we're talking about people with gardens and people without gardens, it's

00:11:01.700 not an issue of the haves and have-nots.

00:11:04.040 That's not where I'm getting towards.

00:11:06.560 It's an issue of whether some people want to be shielded from the decline that rampant

00:11:14.200 multiculturalism is bringing upon Europe.

00:11:17.460 Yes.

00:11:17.720 If you haven't personally felt it yet, you can afford to have some daft political notions.

00:11:23.620 Well, yeah, because whenever you see the more centrist in our political paradigm Lib Dems,

00:11:30.260 and I imagine it's going to be similar in Germany, it's usually in small villages where

00:11:33.920 they're not touched by these sorts of things.

00:11:37.080 But as we're seeing across all of Europe, these sorts of things are permeating everywhere.

00:11:42.440 There was a case of that 16-year-old lad in France that was living in a village of no

00:11:49.800 more than 160 people. And a bunch of Muslims turned up to their festivities. I don't know

00:11:57.200 what the occasion was necessarily. And just started stabbing people. And if it can reach

00:12:02.360 people that are in about as remote town as you possibly could, because that's very small

00:12:08.200 in this day and age, isn't it? Then, not to sound too hyperbolic, but this is how people

00:12:13.360 will see it. Nowhere is safe.

00:12:14.960 The wealthy areas are starting to tip. I mean, the rough map of Germany, if you look

00:12:18.500 at the states, is the east. They're polling at around 30% in the state elections. In the

00:12:25.020 industrial heartland, which is mostly West Germany, that is still sort of 20% they're

00:12:30.520 polling. But then in the rich bits of Germany, the sort of north bits and the south bits,

00:12:34.440 the sort of shipping lanes, the export areas, the place where the finances occurs, they're

00:12:38.820 closer to sort of 10%, 12%. So again, it's just working on the economics. The more desperate

00:12:43.800 your situation, the more likely you are to go for AFD. And the significance being in terms

00:12:48.480 of sort of actual governance is in these state parliaments, if you could form the coalition,

00:12:54.120 be the head of the coalition, you get the control of the executive apparatus. And actually,

00:13:00.140 it's quite a lot in Germany. It's police and lots of state broadcasting, education. There's

00:13:05.640 a lot that goes with the power. They're actually quite powerful, these state units.

00:13:09.660 But if you're going to try and block it, which is what the other political parties have been

00:13:13.900 doing, I mean, that just starts to become completely unviable when they're getting about

00:13:18.520 a third of the vote. And the reason being is that the absolute minimum you need to form

00:13:22.740 a coalition is you need to be to pass a budget. And that can be as simple as, you know, you

00:13:28.940 do a coalition deal where they just abstain from voting on the budget. So they don't necessarily

00:13:35.320 work with you, but they abstain from voting on the budget. And then because you're the largest

00:13:38.820 party, you can get your budget through and then you get the controls of the apparitions of state.

00:13:43.600 But when AFD are polling up around sort of 30%, you've got these increasingly tenuous

00:13:49.220 coalitions. And, you know, something like the, you know, FDP and, well, I mean, any of them,

00:13:56.440 SDP or even de Linca, I mean, they just can't function together.

00:14:00.600 Yeah, they seem to strike a chord with the Zoomers and the German working class. And they seem

00:14:07.340 to be doing it really well. I don't think that it's an issue of any kind of civic humanist

00:14:13.520 desire for civic participation or something. It's an issue of solving some very few problems.

00:14:21.400 I think that's how they view things. I think a lot of them would just go out of politics

00:14:28.920 if they thought that the more establishmentarian parties would adopt some of their policies.

00:14:35.340 That's my hunch. Maybe some wouldn't, but I think that this is, generally speaking,

00:14:40.440 the sort of temperament.

00:14:42.600 Well, the problem is they kind of poisoned the well on this stuff. Because they've been

00:14:45.280 building these coalitions, what they've done is they've cemented in especially young men's

00:14:50.080 mind that all of these parties are the same, that they're the uniparty.

00:14:53.660 Yeah.

00:14:54.080 And then you combine that with the talk, and I'm sure you're going to come on to the efforts

00:14:56.880 to try and ban the AFD. And again, that is just cementing everybody's view that the only

00:15:01.700 alternative to basically all of them is going to be the AFD. And so it's pushing people.

00:15:08.200 Plus, and they have tried the thing that you sort of suggested there, which is taking

00:15:11.280 their policies, but they do it as talking points only, and they don't govern that way.

00:15:16.280 So again, everything is reinforcing that you have to go AFD.

00:15:19.460 And there's also the aspect of the sort of thing that attacking Donald Trump constantly

00:15:25.160 or calling Nigel Farage racist in Britain does, where not only does it get their name

00:15:30.200 out there and give them the name recognition to the point where Nigel Farage is now the most

00:15:34.760 recognised politician in Britain, obviously Donald Trump the same in America.

00:15:38.420 That doesn't really work when your country doesn't work either, right?

00:15:44.200 Yeah.

00:15:44.500 So you've got to really be living it up large to be able to say, listen, these people are

00:15:48.920 going to upset the good thing you've got going on. But when you've got decline, an obvious

00:15:53.380 decline and rapid decline, as you've got in Germany and many other European countries,

00:15:57.920 then saying this person is dangerous, they stand against what we stand for.

00:16:03.060 Well, people associate the union party with managed decline, basically.

00:16:11.320 That's exactly what it is.

00:16:12.860 Well, to be fair with Germany, it's more like managed demolition at this point.

00:16:15.860 Well, yeah, there's a lot of self-sabotage.

00:16:17.700 I want to go back to something you said before, because I think that this is ultimately what

00:16:22.940 what the issue is, is that there is a very large number of people in Germany who like

00:16:29.740 the AFD rhetoric. And instead of trying to listen to it, the other parties have said,

00:16:34.940 no, we're going to marginalise you and we're going to call you Nazi, irrespective of whether

00:16:39.400 you are a Nazi or not.

00:16:40.500 So I think a beginning of an answer to this question is that the German government must

00:16:49.800 stop acting as if opposition to rampant multiculturalism makes one a Nazi, because that's what's happening.

00:16:56.980 And we see this across the entire West. There are people who are saying we don't think that

00:17:02.260 ideological multiculturalism is working. It has so many problems. It brings so many problems

00:17:09.000 and destruction. And all the state does in response to them is just manage decline,

00:17:15.660 the micromanagement of things getting worse. And the more the more people see this, they

00:17:22.160 cannot unsee this. And the response of the establishment where they are trying to hide

00:17:26.640 this is we're going to call you a Nazi. We're going to call you a racist. We're going to call

00:17:31.360 you an extreme right winger. So this doesn't work.

00:17:34.520 It's also a tough sell because I'm obviously no historian, right?

00:17:38.300 But when I think of the National Socialists and their leader, I don't think of a lesbian

00:17:45.640 whose partner is Sri Lankan. You know, I could be wrong. Maybe I've just read the wrong books,

00:17:51.980 but that's not the impression I got learning about the mid-century.

00:17:56.100 Why do so many right wingers, by the way, have foreign spouses? You must have noticed that

00:18:00.940 so many right wingers do. If you go to like, I remember back in the day going to some UKIP

00:18:04.940 things and everybody there's got like an Indonesian wife or something. It's like,

00:18:09.060 we're sure there must be a reason for it. I'm just not sure what it is.

00:18:11.280 There are many, there are many.

00:18:13.360 When you've got a foreign wife, haven't you?

00:18:15.720 She's Greek.

00:18:16.600 There you go.

00:18:18.380 But also, I know, I know some reactionary spaces that have a lot of trans people and

00:18:23.460 people who sleep with them.

00:18:24.860 Yes.

00:18:25.100 Yeah. And, you know, they pose as reactionary vanguards.

00:18:28.220 Oh, right. Yes.

00:18:29.560 That might be something else.

00:18:30.680 Yeah. Name shall not be mentioned.

00:18:32.580 Right. So we're going here to a political article talking about the attempt by German lawmakers

00:18:40.260 to ban the AFD. So if you're discussing for years to ban a party on the grounds that it's

00:18:47.280 extremist, well, the question is, is it actually extremist? If you cannot convince people that

00:18:53.240 it is actually extremist, because you are the boy who cried wolf, because you see everything as

00:19:00.140 Nazi, yeah, it's going to backfire. And even most of them understand this. That's why they didn't

00:19:06.800 move forward with it, because they want a super majority, I think around two-thirds, to ban the

00:19:11.780 AFD as extremist, and they just didn't have it. And they thought that banning it before that would

00:19:17.380 boost its appeal. And it would absolutely do this. And also, there's the other bit, which is the

00:19:23.000 more pragmatic bit, is that if you want to do something unpopular, you don't just let

00:19:27.680 it hang in the air and hover for years. You just do it, and people have the opportunity

00:19:35.320 to change the page. They are not doing that, even that. So they are, even in terms of bad

00:19:41.520 standards, they are incompetent.

00:19:43.520 Yeah, because, you know, if I were thinking like an evil uniparty blob leader, I would want

00:19:52.440 to just get it out of the way, ban them, and then just say, okay, we've done that, moving

00:19:56.560 on, now we're going to talk about how to fix, I don't know, our energy sector, which is what

00:20:01.080 they should be talking about.

00:20:01.900 Yeah. And we have here the AFD firewall, which is also another instance, which confirms what

00:20:12.180 Josh was saying before, that the center right of, within quotation marks, of Germany is very

00:20:18.800 happy to make a sort of alliance with the left and other leftist party against the AFD.

00:20:26.420 So here we have Germany's conservatives, they passed a strict migration motion with votes

00:20:32.460 by the far-right party, and they say here that they breached the historic firewall on not working

00:20:38.800 with the far-right policy.

00:20:39.800 So what is the German firewall I'm not familiar with?

00:20:41.580 It's the sort of custom according to which all the parties are going to form a coalition

00:20:48.480 against the far-right and they're not going to work with the so-called far-right.

00:20:53.600 But what happened was that because they made a fuss, they said that, no, we're not going

00:20:59.280 to go forward with the support of the AFD, so we're not going to pass the motion.

00:21:03.860 So virtue signaling to the left was more important to them than policy.

00:21:09.580 Why?

00:21:10.580 Because they seem to be basing their whole legitimacy upon the idea that the AFD is a Nazi

00:21:16.560 party.

00:21:17.560 And right now I will say this, there are negative effects of contaminating public discourse.

00:21:27.160 When everything you disagree with is Nazi, people stop understanding what the term means.

00:21:34.520 And if you have a hundred Nazis in a place with ten thousand Nazis, you don't have ten thousand

00:21:41.200 Nazis or zero Nazis, you have a hundred Nazis.

00:21:45.120 But this is not something that the German establishment and the left wing want to do.

00:21:51.200 I mean, it might actually result in quite a lot of Nazis because if you spend decades telling

00:21:57.480 everybody that everything they want is Nazi, then sooner or later people will decide that

00:22:01.880 all they want is Nazis.

00:22:03.820 That's how they're going to think.

00:22:05.740 And that's why terminology is important in the debates.

00:22:08.760 If someone is giving you a sort of terminology and you accept it without questioning, you start

00:22:15.160 defining your position in the terms that the opposition wants you to define.

00:22:20.260 And this, in some circles, some people want to say, right, I want to show that I'm based.

00:22:25.600 I want to, you know, show that I don't care about the left.

00:22:28.940 But when we're talking about elections, there's the general public.

00:22:32.620 And if lots of people start doing this, the general public will vote against them.

00:22:37.480 But this, I see it as a sort of last ditch attempt to prevent an inevitable trend, because

00:22:43.780 as far as I see it, the growth of the AFD is proportional to the decline of Germany in

00:22:50.480 the sense of the more the uniparty mismanages the country, the more popular they become.

00:22:57.460 And that's not going to change because their approach isn't changing.

00:23:00.260 And therefore, their rise is inevitable.

00:23:02.460 And therefore, this is a last ditch attempt to try and make them sound unappealing.

00:23:06.540 Like, look, we're going to lose another war if you vote for the AFD.

00:23:10.840 You know, they've never heard of Third Times the Charm.

00:23:13.780 But the point being here that it's out of weakness that they're doing this sort of name calling,

00:23:20.080 really, as it is with many individuals, you know, when they don't actually have a good

00:23:25.220 counterargument and a good track record themselves, they resort to name calling in the hope that

00:23:29.660 it shields them better.

00:23:31.360 Because, of course, to the supposed centre-right party, the AFD is the major electoral threat.

00:23:39.300 And by siding with the left, it's a short-term solution to have coalition partners, perhaps,

00:23:46.540 and maybe wrangle some governing power.

00:23:50.640 However, all it's going to do is further cement the idea that the AFD are the only party that

00:23:56.100 you can trust.

00:23:57.100 So it's a very short-term approach to get some, you know, maybe the next cycle, but

00:24:02.940 it will backfire in a longer-term approach, assuming that things continue as they are,

00:24:08.640 of course.

00:24:09.640 I mean, put it this way.

00:24:10.640 If I was the AFD, I'd be delighted, but that's their strategy, because it's basically

00:24:14.260 saying, okay, well, you know, I'm the only alternative, and it's just going to push votes

00:24:17.820 their way.

00:24:18.820 Because it's very, very short-sighted, if not incredibly stupid.

00:24:23.480 But also, this emboldens leftists, and especially far-leftists, because if you say that the sole

00:24:32.880 goal of politics is to not appease the so-called far-right, you may end up appeasing the far-left.

00:24:41.700 And that's one thing that keeps happening.

00:24:44.140 And because they are appeased, because they appease the far-left, the far-left becomes

00:24:49.500 emboldened, because it's like Millet says, give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

00:24:53.980 They are taking a mile, and they go out, and they are attacking AFD people.

00:25:00.240 Now, I'm not going to play it, because maybe YouTube has issues with it.

00:25:04.860 We're not going to play this.

00:25:06.360 It's also a very pathetic punch.

00:25:09.020 It's a very pathetic punch.

00:25:10.540 But we do have violence on street level.

00:25:16.180 We do have, you know, that's something that presumably they want to not happen.

00:25:23.460 I think it's also worth mentioning, often a big deal is made of left-wing street violence,

00:25:29.780 and obviously it's undesirable, but these are thoroughly unexceptional people.

00:25:33.960 They're not people to be afraid of.

00:25:35.560 You shouldn't be put off by them, especially when it's the fate of your country.

00:25:38.500 You know, someone who's lived on a diet of vegan and soy isn't going to punch you very

00:25:43.740 hard, and you shouldn't be so weak of mind that the threat of, you know, a small group

00:25:51.840 of strange people attacking you should put you off.

00:25:55.280 You should care enough.

00:25:56.220 And I think that what has happened here a little bit, particularly in Europe, is there's been

00:26:01.720 a bleed over from the United States, where there is a legitimate, you know, threat, obviously,

00:26:07.620 with lots of incidents of fatal shootings and the like, of right-wingers from the left.

00:26:13.340 And people see that lethality and they think, okay, it's only a matter of time.

00:26:17.540 But although there are attacks, it's not on the same level of lethality in Europe as

00:26:23.540 it is.

00:26:24.300 And obviously it's still unpleasant, but it shouldn't be enough to put people off following

00:26:29.040 the politics they believe in.

00:26:30.420 This is what the left has always been.

00:26:32.020 I mean, if you go back 150 years and look up anarchists, they just called them anarchists

00:26:36.220 back then.

00:26:37.060 The left has always done this.

00:26:38.700 They can't get what they want through persuasion, so they just attack people quite ineffectively.

00:26:44.200 But every so often they get a Franz Ferdinand or something and it all goes a bit crazy.

00:26:48.820 I mean, they are extremists in the temperament is unless you give me everything, you have

00:26:53.080 given me nothing, and you're an existential threat to my existence.

00:26:56.720 That's how the extremists think.

00:26:58.940 What you said before is absolutely correct.

00:27:02.380 The establishment seems to be working for the AFD inadvertently, but it seems to be working

00:27:08.220 because the way they operate sends votes the AFD way and deprives votes from themselves.

00:27:15.320 That's why occasionally both the SPD before when it led the governing coalition and the

00:27:22.900 CDU now that it governs the coalition have occasionally made statements that indicate a tough stance

00:27:30.600 on migration, but there's a very, there's a question that, how sensible are they and how convincing are they?

00:27:41.160 Last time when it came to Schultz, he made some, some statements about it.

00:27:45.040 People for about a week were ecstatic.

00:27:48.140 Some right wingers would say that, well, listen, Schultz is more right wing than, than the CDE.

00:27:54.340 And then Schultz went to Uzbekistan.

00:27:57.000 He signed a deal and he said, well, let us increase migration flows to Germany from Central

00:28:02.880 Asia.

00:28:03.720 Now, Friedrich Mertz is saying that Syrians no longer have reason for asylum in Germany.

00:28:08.760 And he says that the Syrian civil war has ended and they have no reason to be given asylum

00:28:15.580 there and they should all go back.

00:28:17.820 But the question is, what is he going to do about it?

00:28:20.020 If his governing partner is pro-migration, which is the SPD, is he going to be, is he

00:28:27.420 going to break the firewall and pass this with the AFD and then be seen as the person who

00:28:33.760 somehow collaborates with the far right?

00:28:36.000 Or is he going to just do nothing, wait for a few weeks for the polls to somehow turn more

00:28:44.140 his favour or to micromanage the decline of votes in this case and just do nothing?

00:28:51.580 There's a big question there.

00:28:53.360 I don't know what's going to happen.

00:28:54.520 Most likely, I think it's going to be the same.

00:28:56.780 And that's why he seems to be doing it.

00:28:59.660 One of the features of modern politics across both sides of the Atlantic is that lots of

00:29:04.940 political leaders basically do headline fishing, where they say things that sound great, attract

00:29:09.760 voters and then just do nothing about it.

00:29:12.200 Trump's quite guilty of this sometimes.

00:29:14.600 He sounds a lot better in headlines.

00:29:17.660 When you actually look at the practical things he's done, it's like, oh, OK, actually, you've

00:29:21.300 done a lot less than you've claimed you were going to do.

00:29:24.420 Of course, there are many reasons for that.

00:29:27.040 However, it's still an important point that you can sound good.

00:29:32.100 And if you only go by headlines, which many people do, then it can help people in terms

00:29:38.260 of their public image. And it's just a cheap tactic, in my opinion.

00:29:42.060 I think it's far better to say, here's how I'm going to do this thing, rather than saying

00:29:47.400 I'm going to do this thing.

00:29:49.200 Show your workings, not just I'm going to get to this end result and that's it.

00:29:52.980 Or show a result.

00:29:53.660 Because, I mean, all that happened with this, people just turn up and say, and they say,

00:29:57.460 where are you from?

00:29:58.020 And they'd be like, oh, we're not Syria, somewhere else.

00:30:01.000 And be like, OK, fair enough, come in then.

00:30:03.280 Now, as we said, there are very adverse effects with rampant multiculturalism and an ideological

00:30:09.760 stance towards it makes one unable to see them or makes one unwilling to see them.

00:30:16.960 And especially those who live in a particularly secluded environment, they don't come into

00:30:24.880 contact with these problems as other people do.

00:30:28.220 And they have the privilege to create a delusion around themselves and accuse as extremists

00:30:33.740 everyone who is pointing their attention towards these problems.

00:30:37.700 Now, if you believe Die Welt, you will see here that they say that immigration has not

00:30:43.820 raised German crime rate.

00:30:45.960 A new study by a top German economic policy institute has confirmed the academic consensus.

00:30:51.820 There is no correlation between increased migration and a rise in crime, despite the political

00:30:56.980 debate.

00:30:57.600 Oh, really?

00:30:57.800 Yes, but even if they've approached this as honestly as possible, there are multiple ways

00:31:04.020 you could have that result.

00:31:05.120 So say there have been changes in police practicing, maybe increases in technology and surveillance has

00:31:11.980 meant that crime has been naturally falling anyway, and it's been able to mitigate crime.

00:31:16.600 So the crime by the native Germans has actually gone down massively, but then the decline has been reduced

00:31:23.720 by the foreign population basically propping it up.

00:31:27.060 Because I don't remember, before the age of mass migration, any instances of Germans mass slaughtering

00:31:33.760 each other at Christmas markets and things like that.

00:31:36.900 And what it also fails to acknowledge is the nature of crimes.

00:31:40.640 If you lump all crimes together, you know, and say crime is just an abstract concept, you know, maybe

00:31:48.580 petty thefts have gone down, maybe people are more wary in major cities, and it's not even anything

00:31:54.460 policing related, and this is affecting the numbers.

00:31:58.420 Like, these sorts of headlines, they may sound very positive, but there's so much devil in the details here

00:32:03.680 that needs to be explored.

00:32:04.880 One detail I'd like to know, for example, is, is stealing a Mars bar counted as one crime,

00:32:09.020 and is driving a BMW into a Christmas market counted as one crime?

00:32:12.500 Because, you know, I can tolerate some crimes more than others.

00:32:15.800 I agree, yeah.

00:32:16.420 If you look at this report, it cites the latest national crime stats from 2018 to 2023 with location-specific data,

00:32:26.240 and they say migrants tend to settle in urban areas where there is more population density,

00:32:31.180 nightlife, and more people in public spaces at all hours of the day.

00:32:35.180 That means that the general crime rate is higher, and crime suspects are just as likely to be German

00:32:41.280 as a foreign background.

00:32:42.880 Right, so it's the city that does it.

00:32:44.680 But let me just show you what it says for about 2023 and 2025.

00:32:51.300 So there are data ever since, from 2023 onwards, that suggest the exact opposite.

00:32:59.660 So they say, here we have this article by the European Conservative.

00:33:03.360 Foreigners behind 40% of violent crime in Germany, according to a report,

00:33:08.160 a sharp rise in rape and sexual assault cases have sparked alarm among official and the public alike.

00:33:14.680 And that's one of those crimes that if you were to pick crimes going on in your country,

00:33:19.140 that would be one of the ones you really wouldn't want going on.

00:33:21.300 Yes, and it's what you said, Josh, before, it's people who are saying that in some respects,

00:33:28.520 crime goes down, but when it comes to violent crime, it goes up.

00:33:31.920 And we see this pattern across Europe.

00:33:34.460 We see some groups overrepresented in crime.

00:33:38.660 Well, we can look at the Danish data, of course, just north of the border with Germany.

00:33:43.500 They keep very good data.

00:33:45.420 I'll be talking about them later on, in fact.

00:33:48.240 Not their data this time, though.

00:33:50.480 And we see that people from specific parts of the world are far more likely to commit violent crimes or sex crimes.

00:33:57.220 And we've got the same data in Britain that shows the same trend.

00:34:00.300 And it's the same in Sweden.

00:34:01.700 It's the same in lots of other countries that actually collect this data.

00:34:05.080 And I don't know how publicly available it is in Germany.

00:34:09.080 You very rarely see it, I would imagine, that of the mindset of we're not going to publish a breakdown by nationality or ethnicity.

00:34:17.360 But of the countries that do, all of the trends seem to complement one another,

00:34:21.420 which seems to suggest that it's probably going to be the same in Germany

00:34:24.580 and that many people from areas like sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East or some parts of Asia

00:34:32.100 are far more likely to commit crimes in Germany than your average German citizen.

00:34:37.500 And also a more fundamental point, who gives a toss about their numbers?

00:34:40.460 I mean, you get these academic institutions who put together these studies that say that, you know,

00:34:45.420 the crime numbers are whatever the hell they say they are, which we don't believe.

00:34:49.440 But I remember back to about 11 months ago, being kept up till about 4 o'clock in the morning

00:34:55.980 because I'd seen some footage on X of the last Christmas market attacks last Christmas.

00:35:00.680 I think it was in Magdeburg.

00:35:01.820 Yeah, I think it was right.

00:35:03.560 And seeing an image of a mother sobbing over half of her child because of the attack there.

00:35:13.240 You can come out of all the sodding numbers you want.

00:35:15.940 After you see something like that, you are not going to be persuaded that a bunch of academics have done some figures.

00:35:21.100 Here we have this article by Bild.

00:35:24.300 Do check it out.

00:35:25.440 You can translate it from German to English and it cites reports of the federal police,

00:35:31.060 not something that some academics somewhere conjured.

00:35:36.240 It talks about the federal police report and it says how in cases of violent crime,

00:35:42.600 it goes up and some groups are overrepresented in it.

00:35:46.300 And of course, there's the very obvious point that it's different if a native German commits the crime

00:35:53.180 than someone who has been allowed into the country because the native German, you know, they've always been there.

00:35:59.820 Whereas the person allowed into the country, that is a policy decision.

00:36:03.640 That is the responsibility of the government fundamentally and their criteria for allowing people into the country.

00:36:09.940 And therefore, it is fair to put more scrutiny on the foreigner doing the crime because they had less right to be there

00:36:17.380 because they weren't, they aren't German.

00:36:19.200 I mean, if you travel to any Southeast and Asian countries, it's very unwise to drive there

00:36:24.380 because they basically have the policy.

00:36:25.960 Whereas if there's a traffic accident, for example, even if it was clearly the fault of somebody else,

00:36:31.260 you know, you were stopped and they ran into the back of you, you'll get the blame.

00:36:35.060 And the reason is, is if you had not been in the country, it would have been impossible for that to have happened.

00:36:40.700 And therefore, you were automatically at blame.

00:36:43.720 Same logic here, except they flip it around the other way.

00:36:47.040 They try and pretend that the government's decision to let somebody in

00:36:50.260 and then they hack people apart or stab them or drive into a Christmas market

00:36:53.540 had nothing to do with the fact that the government let them in in the first place.

00:36:55.960 Clearly bloody did.

00:36:56.640 Someone spoke about the statistics and these are statistics of a federal police report

00:37:05.260 and she was convicted.

00:37:07.900 She was a member of the AFD.

00:37:11.040 She was convicted for inciting hatred.

00:37:15.120 Upheld an appeal after using official statistics to warn that Afghan migrants

00:37:19.420 are disproportionately liable to commit sexual violence against women.

00:37:23.760 Hearing about this, what actually happened to her?

00:37:25.220 Did she get jailed or something or what happened to her?

00:37:28.080 I think she got fined around 5,000, 6,000 euros.

00:37:32.360 But take that with a pinch of salt.

00:37:34.420 Citing a fish, heavy fine as well.

00:37:35.040 Take that with a pinch of salt.

00:37:36.960 Go back and check.

00:37:37.860 Right.

00:37:38.180 So again, we have another article here from the European Conservative

00:37:41.500 that cites new data about it.

00:37:44.080 This is from April the 2nd of this year.

00:37:46.920 It cites more data that suggests that, again, some groups are overrepresented in violent crimes.

00:37:54.700 And what is interesting is that there's a question.

00:37:58.480 Why is someone persecuted for citing the evidence that federal sources give?

00:38:06.840 And the answer is very simple.

00:38:08.200 She spoke about them with an angle that is not the angle that the establishment wants people to view things.

00:38:18.400 And when it comes to crime, there is a sort of dual conflicting nature or a conflicting approach towards reporting it.

00:38:30.940 Because on the one hand, half the establishment will say it doesn't happen.

00:38:36.340 And those who will say it does happen will have to give a narratival twist.

00:38:43.280 And the narratival twist is always economic.

00:38:45.780 It is never cultural.

00:38:46.780 And when it's economic, they're saying if some groups are overrepresented in crime, just as the evidence suggests,

00:38:55.620 the only proper remedy is not being tougher when it comes to policing or something.

00:39:02.420 The only proper remedy is to tax more the natives and give more money to these groups.

00:39:10.420 Because if they're going to get more money, according to the leftist logic,

00:39:13.700 they're going to have more opportunities.

00:39:15.260 They're going to feel more integrated.

00:39:16.780 They're going to feel that they have more of a stake.

00:39:20.120 But in the meanwhile, multiculturalism says do not integrate.

00:39:24.120 There are two things to say here.

00:39:25.620 First of all, that crime and poverty association is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard

00:39:30.660 because there are plenty of instances of poor white people not committing crimes.

00:39:35.480 It's a cultural thing, I think, or you could even argue there's a genetic element to it as well.

00:39:41.900 But you can look at things like London and the London crime rates.

00:39:45.500 The black minority in London, which is 13% of the population in London, I believe it is 61% of knife murders and 63% of gun crime.

00:39:59.260 So there are a majority of those crimes despite being 13% of the population.

00:40:03.380 However, they're not the most impoverished group.

00:40:06.720 The most impoverished group are Bangladeshis and Pakistanis.

00:40:10.360 And so if they're committing over, you know, 50% of these crimes and they're also not the most impoverished group,

00:40:19.500 well, that seems to suggest that there's...

00:40:21.360 And also, if they're committing over 50% of the crimes,

00:40:23.960 even the leftists who can't get their head around per capita can still understand it.

00:40:27.600 Exactly. It's so overwhelming that it's indisputable, really.

00:40:32.860 Unless, you know, whenever I've pointed out, people don't argue the stats.

00:40:36.060 They just say I'm racist for pointing it out, which, you know, is no argument at all, really.

00:40:41.480 Sure, yeah.

00:40:42.120 And we had several attacks.

00:40:43.860 This is the attack that Dan mentioned before, last December.

00:40:48.540 It's so horrific.

00:40:49.360 I mean, I just...

00:40:50.540 I could barely sleep that night when I saw this.

00:40:53.280 And if you remember, the Guardian and several establishmentarian voices were saying that this is basically someone who is an AFD supporter and is anti-Islamist.

00:41:08.660 Yeah.

00:41:09.120 Yeah, they were saying this.

00:41:10.480 And they were saying that this driver voice support on the social media for the AFD and for Elon Musk,

00:41:17.340 who publicly backed the AFD, saying that it's the only anti-migration party can save Germany.

00:41:23.980 So this is disgusting propaganda.

00:41:28.800 Yeah, but that guy was all over the place.

00:41:30.540 Yes.

00:41:31.080 And, I mean, I'd be particularly interested on the Maidenberg thing to hear in the comments from any Germans,

00:41:35.860 because, you know, German Christmas markets are absolutely fantastic.

00:41:39.020 I mean, we have them here, but nothing like the extent the Germans do.

00:41:42.760 I mean, they really take it serious.

00:41:44.060 I went to a Christmas market in Bath over the weekend with my girlfriend, and it was very different than I remembered it.

00:41:53.140 As I used to live in Bath for a while, about six years ago now, and back then, it was a lot quieter.

00:42:00.780 There were no diversity barriers.

00:42:02.520 There weren't those big metal things that stopped you driving a car.

00:42:06.240 So there's very noticeable barriers all the way around it, was there?

00:42:09.080 And a very large police presence.

00:42:11.380 Okay.

00:42:11.740 It actually felt a little bit scary, to be honest.

00:42:15.940 Like, most people weren't really aware of it.

00:42:17.580 They didn't think anything of it.

00:42:18.760 But I was able to sort of figure out, okay, well, the police have deemed this a high-target area.

00:42:23.600 So they put the barriers up.

00:42:24.820 There were, you know, more police around that market than I'd seen in all my time.

00:42:31.120 Yeah.

00:42:31.880 But I'd love to, I mean, that's great.

00:42:33.760 I'd also love to hear from sort of any Germans who's started going to Christmas markets already.

00:42:37.980 I mean, what is it like?

00:42:38.660 Because, I mean, I'd imagine if I had a young family in Germany, would I take them to a Christmas market?

00:42:43.040 I mean, you'd want to, because it's a great experience.

00:42:45.900 But, I mean, presumably these things must be, just must be surrounded by basically a fortress at this point.

00:42:51.920 I mean, it happens every year, every year, sometimes several years.

00:42:56.860 So presumably you just simply cannot have any Christmas market anywhere in Germany at this point without a sort of row of concrete ground.

00:43:04.560 There was, at some point, a rumor that German markets, Christmas markets were canceled.

00:43:10.960 That has been contested.

00:43:12.920 But whether, to whatever degree they have been canceled or kept, there is always this fear looming over people's mind.

00:43:23.260 That's why they have the protective barriers.

00:43:25.360 Now, one thing to say here is that when it comes to crime and when it comes to people talking about the dangers of multiculturalism, we encounter yet another pattern.

00:43:36.320 And I put it here in the seven steps.

00:43:42.060 Number one, a crime is committed by members of groups the left considers oppressed.

00:43:47.380 Number two, the MSM, mainstream media casts aspersion about oppressor groups that imply that the far right is to blame.

00:43:54.480 Number three, when the identity of the perpetrator cannot be denied, mainstream media treats it as an isolated incident that was caused by mental illness and which does not suggest any deeper pattern.

00:44:05.560 Number one, parenthesis here, every time someone criticizes their agenda, they're not saying this is an isolated incident of someone who is a right winger who criticizes us.

00:44:15.440 They're talking about a great pattern of far right epidemic.

00:44:20.120 Right.

00:44:20.400 Stage number four, politicians and establishmentarian voices make performative expressions of sympathy to the victims and the families.

00:44:29.000 Stage number five, after the empty virtue signaling session, they will scare monger about the far right

00:44:35.120 and make irrelevant remarks about fascism and Nazism, whose purpose is to frame every person who doesn't buy into the progressive narrative as an enemy of society in progress.

00:44:44.600 Stage number six, those who challenge the dominant narrative are met with content wise, irrelevant screeching about racism and extremism, whose only person is to divert purposes to divert attention away from the dead ends of the progressive paradigm.

00:44:58.400 Stage number seven, and number seven, business as usual, and business as usual involves the proposal of half measures.

00:45:07.120 When there was the Salinger knife attack, they said, let's ban knives.

00:45:10.660 This is the previous interior minister, Nancy Fazer.

00:45:14.540 They say ban knives, and because right now crime in trains and train station is going up, especially violent crime against women, also of a sexual nature, they're contemplating women-only carriages.

00:45:30.520 I mean, what a literal honeypot that is.

00:45:34.760 So they're saying to rapists, by the way, that carriage over there, it's full of young women and no men to stop you.

00:45:41.220 I mean, that is not a good idea.

00:45:42.260 And by the way, somebody in the comments answered my questions about the Christmas market.

00:45:46.060 So apparently, even though the state brings in all these immigrants, the cost of securing a Christmas market falls on the Christmas market.

00:45:55.320 So meaning that lots of the Christmas markets have had to be cancelled because they can't afford the security measures.

00:46:01.100 So the costs of the security is placed on the Christmas market, but the immigrant, I mean, that is something that the state does.

00:46:07.200 I mean, what a backwards.

00:46:08.360 We've also got to address the sort of elephant in the room with these Christmas markets is that they're attended by basically people who have grown up Christian.

00:46:19.660 You know, they're Christmas traditions.

00:46:21.300 And so it's part of that tradition, isn't it?

00:46:23.500 And so it's normally going to be native Germans and they're not going to be any, you know, collateral for groups that the attacker would not want to attack, for example, fellow Muslims.

00:46:36.080 And here we have the latest disruption.

00:46:40.100 This is in Vienna.

00:46:41.060 Vienna is in Austria.

00:46:42.000 But again, it was disrupted by pro-Palestine protesters.

00:46:47.200 Right.

00:46:47.740 And this isn't the only disruption.

00:46:49.380 And I want to say that, you know, if the establishment says that it wants multiculturalism and it wants to respect different religions, then you can't have the religious festivals of one group undisrupted and saying that every sort of disruption or protest is evil far-right extremism on the one hand.

00:47:14.360 And then when you have something like this, it's business as usual.

00:47:17.900 It's just the voice of the oppressed.

00:47:20.040 This is absolute nonsense.

00:47:21.680 And this isn't just what is happening.

00:47:24.760 There is also the economic aspect of it.

00:47:27.600 And it seems like the German establishment for a long time now has suffered from the green craze.

00:47:36.300 And not just the green craze, but also more socialist and central planning kind of madness that is attached to EU policies.

00:47:45.200 And they seem to be doing the unthinkable.

00:47:48.000 They shut down their nuclear reactors.

00:47:51.140 This is just like this is saying we are not going to embark upon the modern, the journey that all modern countries must walk into.

00:48:03.180 It's like we are going to turn our back to technology.

00:48:06.100 Meanwhile, everyone else won't do it.

00:48:08.000 It's like trying to drive to work but insisting that you are not going to put any petrol in your car.

00:48:11.800 It doesn't work.

00:48:12.600 It's like the head of policy was Ted Kaczynski.

00:48:15.340 Like they are trying to sabotage all innovation in Germany.

00:48:19.720 And of course the foundation of which, the foundation of all German industry is cheap energy.

00:48:23.860 So by making energy more expensive or just non-existent in shutting down power plants, all they're doing is devastating all of their industry that remains.

00:48:34.680 Because of course a lot of it has been outsourced to places like China.

00:48:38.620 And before that, Russia and cheap gas.

00:48:42.520 Exactly.

00:48:42.920 And if you are to be a modern industrial country, particularly a developed one, you need to have that cheap energy nailed down.

00:48:51.820 Germany can do that.

00:48:52.740 It's not in a position where it can't have cheap energy because of any circumstantial thing.

00:48:57.700 The decision is entirely political.

00:48:59.580 And it is an act of self-sabotage because, you know, to thrive economically, as Farras often says, you need two things, which is cheap food and cheap energy.

00:49:11.560 And that is very, very true, that you need those two things.

00:49:15.100 Obviously there's more to it than that.

00:49:17.100 But those are the two building blocks to which all of the others emerge.

00:49:21.480 And neither of those things are being done because things like net zero are antithetical towards making things affordable.

00:49:28.720 And now I want to give a few practical tips for the EU establishment.

00:49:35.820 Number one, you need to understand where we are.

00:49:38.840 We're at the stage where those who can't shut up about Weimar and the dangers of appeasement are doing all they can to appease those who are explicit about hating Western civilization.

00:49:49.240 And I want to say that what they should do is basically do what they are doing in a very small scale.

00:49:58.860 If you look at the Belarus and Poland border, the Polish-Belarusian border, you will see lots of members of the EU, like Donald Tusk.

00:50:13.700 He's not exactly a very conservative figure.

00:50:16.620 I mean, should go without saying.

00:50:18.820 He was also one of the top officials of the EU.

00:50:23.240 If you look at what they're saying and the rhetoric they're using about the border between Poland and Belarus, you will say that this is the exact rhetoric of the so-called far-right with migration.

00:50:37.360 So here we have Donald Tusk saying, hybrid warfare as a tool of destabilization.

00:50:43.500 Lukashenko and Putin are mobilizing thousands of illegal migrants with the help of smugglers amassing them at the borders of Poland, as well as Finland, Lithuania and Latvia.

00:50:53.240 This is both a lucrative business for them and a serious form of hybrid warfare.

00:50:56.900 They're using, if you read this, they're using the same rhetoric that the people they're demonizing are using with all the other borders of the EU.

00:51:08.780 So stop being hypocrites.

00:51:11.900 Apply what you're applying in these borders to all the borders of the EU.

00:51:17.460 It's very simple.

00:51:19.020 Turkey is doing the same thing to Europe.

00:51:21.920 Greece.

00:51:22.220 Particularly Greece.

00:51:22.820 Greece, Bulgaria.

00:51:23.500 And it's interesting as well because I think it was Libya reached out to the UK government recently saying, listen, we want to work with you.

00:51:32.920 We will help you restrict migration for free if you just train us to do it better because we're being inundated by sub-Saharan Africans.

00:51:42.620 So just help us out.

00:51:43.980 And I don't know whether that was answered.

00:51:45.460 That was like a free way of solving a problem there.

00:51:49.940 Just like we can stop illegal migration from sub-Saharan Africa with Libyan help because it's one of the main ports of entry and they'll do it for free.

00:51:57.900 Will they actually do anything about it?

00:51:59.320 There are obvious solutions to this.

00:52:01.220 And final point is that Putin's Russia does pose threats to the EU and to Europe, but it's not the only threat.

00:52:10.380 So the EU establishment should stop acting as if this is the only threat to Europe.

00:52:16.900 I mean, one of the things I wanted to do is just quickly point out the scale of the industrial decline that's been happening in Germany.

00:52:23.480 So, I mean, this is a chart that sort of shows it all.

00:52:26.460 This is German industrial production going back to 1991, you know, to present time.

00:52:32.540 And you can see the German industrial production sort of heading up and you get that 2008 dip there.

00:52:37.860 But there was a V-shaped recovery from there and it came back quickly.

00:52:41.580 Then you get that sort of sharp downward spike with the beginning of the Ukraine war.

00:52:46.960 But, I mean, it's already in massive decline there because, I mean, the greens are coming back here.

00:52:51.620 And, I mean, this is an absolutely terminal decline.

00:52:54.000 You're looking at industrial output that was last seen back in 2005.

00:52:58.520 I mean, these people have effectively lost 20 years worth of progress.

00:53:03.960 It's a degrowth craze.

00:53:05.680 Yeah, through their series of insane economic policies.

00:53:09.960 And, you know, I just want to sort of take you back to the 90s and the sort of general view that we had on the Germans.

00:53:17.060 Germany basically stood for quality.

00:53:19.740 You know, if you wanted to buy a quality car, you bought an Audi or BMW or, you know, a Mercedes, something like that.

00:53:25.160 And they had strong brand as quality.

00:53:28.520 If you wanted quality consumer goods, you wouldn't have bought a Siemens or a Bosch or I always bought the Millie ones.

00:53:35.320 It's still the case in many headphone manufacturers like Sennheiser.

00:53:39.100 I presume they're German by the name.

00:53:41.980 I'd imagine so.

00:53:43.620 Yeah, very odd Chinese name, wouldn't it?

00:53:45.300 But I suppose it's possible.

00:53:46.000 But yeah, I mean, they were quality.

00:53:51.600 And the German industrial model was kind of basically three legs to a stall.

00:53:55.820 I mean, one was cheap energy, which they're getting from Russia.

00:53:58.660 And they were bringing on nuclear as well.

00:54:00.400 I mean, the early part of this when it's all going straight up, they're bringing online nuclear.

00:54:03.400 And then it's a highly skilled industrial workforce.

00:54:10.180 And the third leg of the stall was exports.

00:54:13.920 Now, they kicked out.

00:54:14.740 They've already broken one of those legs of the stall.

00:54:17.520 The other one, the workforce.

00:54:20.220 I mean, that was coming under pressure because of aging demographics.

00:54:25.220 So that was an issue.

00:54:26.880 But Germany had the solution to that is why you have your cheap energy and why you've got your high skilled workforce.

00:54:32.200 What you do is as your population ages is you simply transition to more and more automation.

00:54:38.160 And as long as the whole model works, you're getting your cheap energy and you've got your existing high skill base and you've got the margins to do so.

00:54:45.320 You can actually just make the transition to automation.

00:54:48.320 And it's a smooth transition.

00:54:49.480 But because they kicked out energy and they couldn't stop themselves with over-regulating the workforce, they've made it completely unviable.

00:54:58.720 So margins have been destroyed before the automation took place.

00:55:02.400 I mean, to give you an example of how bad it is, German industrial output fell by 4.3% in August.

00:55:09.900 Now, if it had fallen 4.3% in a decade, that would be a crisis.

00:55:15.860 If it happened in a year, that would be a catastrophe.

00:55:18.540 But 4.3% in a month, I mean, that is managed demolition at this point.

00:55:25.640 I mean, I'll show you this.

00:55:27.020 This is vehicle manufacturing.

00:55:29.800 And again, what was happening at the beginning part of this where the line is just sort of sloping straight up is they were selling into, well, everyone really,

00:55:37.420 including the booming Chinese market.

00:55:40.360 And that's kind of fallen off.

00:55:41.480 The Chinese are now producing their own cars.

00:55:43.260 They've over-regulated it.

00:55:44.520 Well, the problem is with these sorts of industries, right, you need to have the competitive edge at all times.

00:55:51.480 If there's a little gap, it allows domestic industry to the countries who export spring up.

00:55:57.140 It's the same as having sort of protectionist tariffs, only they don't need the legislation to put them in.

00:56:01.920 Because then these industries don't have as much competition in the domestic country.

00:56:06.440 And so they can, you know, occupy that niche that the quality German car could once occupy.

00:56:13.020 Well, I don't think you can stop foreign markets from having their own sort of domestic supply, of course.

00:56:17.980 But it gives them opportunity to out-compete you.

00:56:20.400 But the key thing you want to maintain is you want to maintain the brand image.

00:56:23.860 If you're, you know, if China was producing its own cheaper cars, but the premier option is still a BMW or Audi or Mercedes or whatever it is,

00:56:32.540 then you still maintain the higher end of that market.

00:56:34.740 And actually, that kind of suits you if you're being pushed into a contraction anyway due to workforce.

00:56:39.240 You probably want to focus on the higher value goods.

00:56:41.940 But I mean, what's happened to the German economy is starting from the energy level up, the whole industrial base has been knocked out.

00:56:51.940 So German was massive on chemicals.

00:56:54.140 And chemicals are kind of the star of the industrial chain because they feed into everything.

00:56:58.480 They feed into agriculture.

00:56:59.540 They feed into cars.

00:57:00.420 I mean, they feed into all of it, really.

00:57:02.020 And they're also one of the industries most sensitive to changes in energy costs because they need a tremendous amount of energy to produce them, right?

00:57:09.440 Well, the chemical industry is like a big vat.

00:57:11.740 You put stuff in the vat and then you blast an enormous amount of energy into it.

00:57:15.540 And something happens and you get something else out the other side.

00:57:17.980 So I mean, it all hinges on cheap energy, which then feeds into everything else.

00:57:21.160 Same as steel.

00:57:22.260 Again, big pot, loads of energy goes in, steel comes out the other side.

00:57:26.220 And then you're supplying all the other industries that are built on top of it.

00:57:29.060 Now, once those things have gone out, which they have done, so all of this is being relocated, I mean, one of the huge, I forget the name, but one of the huge chemical firms has just relocated to India.

00:57:42.640 The rest of the chain collapses as well because we might as well do everything else overseas.

00:57:46.260 I mean, if you're going to be doing the chemicals and the steel elsewhere, you might as well then do the, you know, the consumer goods and the cars there as well.

00:57:52.860 I'll also show you this.

00:57:54.940 I mean, this is so you can see what's happening to the German workforce.

00:57:57.900 And this is, I think, oh, this is August.

00:57:59.800 No, so September 2025, change over the last year.

00:58:04.400 And as you can see, you know, where are the jobs going?

00:58:07.720 Well, 75,000 jobs created in care and social care.

00:58:12.420 66,000 in health care.

00:58:14.220 40,000 in public administration.

00:58:16.840 As if Germany needs more public administration going on.

00:58:20.980 And then you look down the bottom and see all the industrial parts of it.

00:58:24.080 And, you know, manufacturing sector in total has lost 165,000 jobs.

00:58:31.260 And, of course, they're also very productive and beneficial jobs for the economy, right?

00:58:37.460 Yes.

00:58:37.680 Of course, you know, care workers and everything are important, but they don't really have economic output in the same way that industry does.

00:58:45.400 It doesn't necessarily move your economy forward in quite the same way, does it?

00:58:50.160 No, no.

00:58:51.320 So, and I mean, this for me highlights the other issue, which is the, I mean, it's the ageing workforce, but also it's the over-regulation of trying to get anything done in Germany.

00:59:01.360 Because if you're going to, I mean, put it this way.

00:59:05.220 Employment rights and all the extra regulation are an expensive luxury.

00:59:10.020 But if you've got a homogeneous workforce, you can kind of afford it if everybody's pulling in the same direction.

00:59:17.560 And let's say you're an industrialist and you're looking to hire a couple of lads, but their dad already works at your factory.

00:59:24.780 I mean, you don't know what you're getting with them, but you've got a pretty good idea.

00:59:28.020 I mean, the apple doesn't fall that far from the tree.

00:59:30.300 And so, you know, maybe you don't mind taking these young lads on and giving them all the employment rights because, you know, their father's worked at your firm for 35 years.

00:59:38.400 You can kind of, you can kind of see where you're going with that.

00:59:41.620 It's a very different situation where you've got a Syrian just off the boat and you're like, OK, do I want to lock this guy in?

00:59:47.040 And make it almost impossible for me to fire him and give him all these workers' rights and just hope he doesn't abuse it.

00:59:53.860 It's a completely different situation.

00:59:55.780 And they've been trying to get around their problem by just importing people, but with massive employment rights.

01:00:01.920 And, I mean, just to cap this off, I'll just give you a couple of quotes from German industry.

01:00:08.420 Because German industry has historically been extremely reserved.

01:00:14.380 They don't make a lot of public comments, but they're absolutely screaming about it now.

01:00:17.880 So the president of the BDI, the industrial locations find itself in a historical crisis, the biggest since the founding of the republic.

01:00:26.920 This is not a cyclical dip, but a structural decline.

01:00:30.140 The industrial base is being lost.

01:00:33.480 CEO of Bass F, we're losing our competitive.

01:00:37.940 It's the de-industrialisation of Germany.

01:00:42.260 CEO of one of the big chemical firms.

01:00:43.940 Germany is going to become an industrial museum.

01:00:48.120 Wacker Chemiki, something German chemicals, excessively high energy prices and bureaucratic obstacles have stopped the development of the German chemical industry.

01:01:02.280 The steel industry is saying that it's no longer economically viable.

01:01:05.620 The chemical association is saying capacity utilisation in basis chemicals is lowest at 30 point.

01:01:13.740 I mean, to give you an idea of that, 60% of Germany's aluminium production capacity is not being used.

01:01:21.260 It's just sitting idle or has already been sent overseas.

01:01:25.420 IG Metals, whole regions face industrial collapse.

01:01:32.140 The chairman of Bosch, Germany is massively over-regulated and is losing the ability to compete internationally.

01:01:38.060 You know, I could give you dozens of these quotes.

01:01:41.680 Industry is screaming loud and clear.

01:01:45.120 You know, we're dying here.

01:01:47.060 We're almost dead.

01:01:48.080 And what the hell does Germany have left?

01:01:50.580 I mean, what is it going to be producing?

01:01:52.700 Sausages?

01:01:53.060 I mean, seriously, without industry.

01:01:59.340 And they've built their whole model of, you know, it's not so much as a country, but a guilt project.

01:02:05.240 And, you know, the Germans need to do something about, I mean, it's probably, I mean, it is too late to take it back to, because the margins have been lost and the opportunity to automate has already been lost.

01:02:18.060 But at least they can recover something now.

01:02:20.720 But if they run this much further, the only thing I can see for Germany is being a location for wealthy Asian sex tourists.

01:02:27.980 They should start deregulating.

01:02:30.180 Definitely.

01:02:30.760 They should start deregulating their economy.

01:02:33.320 I mean, I guess what I'm saying is, if you don't take the sensible option of the AFD right now, you're going to be forced to have a far, far more radical option.

01:02:45.040 And it's not going to be as milquetoast as the AFD.

01:02:49.140 No, that's very true.

01:02:51.480 I think that this is a similar situation to a lot of Europe, really, because these problems that are sort of prevalent in Germany are very similar to those across the entire continent.

01:03:03.300 Because Europe operates as a sort of policy bloc, doesn't it?

01:03:08.380 Particularly with the EU, everything is sort of uniform to some degree to, presumably to encourage trading.

01:03:17.800 But really, it's just a sort of socialist experiment.

01:03:20.480 But that's just my opinion.

01:03:21.680 But things are changing all across Europe.

01:03:26.020 And, of course, this was from October.

01:03:27.820 So some of it's a little bit out of date.

01:03:30.220 He talks about Wilders leaving in the polls in the Netherlands.

01:03:34.600 And actually, they didn't do too well.

01:03:37.520 They lost a third of their seats at the last election.

01:03:39.940 However, they are still a major party.

01:03:42.240 But they're suffering from a similar problem to the AFD in that it's difficult to find coalition partners.

01:03:50.020 That, you know, maybe you could find them.

01:03:53.420 But at the same time, part of the reason that they called an earlier election was because of the difficulties of their coalition partners.

01:04:00.580 And, of course, one of their criteria was that they couldn't have Wilders being the leader.

01:04:07.720 Exactly.

01:04:09.480 But, yes, you've got the right winning in the Czech Republic.

01:04:13.920 The Freedom Party won an election in Austria.

01:04:16.620 Obviously, we've talked about the AFD.

01:04:19.020 Le Pen's national rally were the number one party in France.

01:04:22.020 But they were gatekept out by a coalition of Macron-centrists and the left.

01:04:27.360 The Vox Party is rising in the polls in Spain.

01:04:29.960 It's now the third largest.

01:04:31.780 And the Swedish Democrats are increasing in the polls as the second largest party.

01:04:36.420 And so there does seem to be a rightward shift in response to a lot of these problems.

01:04:41.040 And that is reassuring because people have correctly identified that it's not right-wing policies

01:04:46.660 that have basically destroyed the economic base of Europe and made it more dangerous.

01:04:52.880 It is mass migration and de-industrialization that has done this.

01:04:58.600 And the welfare state.

01:04:59.620 Because frequently you hear the argument that it's the right-wingers more than the left-wingers

01:05:06.080 because you want industry and cheap labor.

01:05:10.380 But it's also the extreme welfarism in combination with mass migration.

01:05:16.660 There's no denying that there is a sort of capitalistic element to mass migration

01:05:20.680 in that it doesn't benefit ordinary people.

01:05:23.060 In fact, it makes them suffer an incredible amount.

01:05:24.820 But it does benefit elites and multinational corporations

01:05:31.240 that aren't necessarily married to the fate of the country that they operate in.

01:05:34.860 They can base themselves there for a certain number of years

01:05:38.300 and then move on to somewhere else when the going is good.

01:05:40.840 And so they should always be treated as fair-weather friends and not be listened to

01:05:44.040 because they don't have the interests of the country at heart.

01:05:46.660 But it is reassuring that people in multiple different European countries

01:05:52.660 are identifying the problem here of welfare, of over-regulation,

01:05:59.760 of net zero sabotaging cheap energy and cheap food and immigration.

01:06:06.000 These are all things that are problems across the board

01:06:08.580 and people are actually pushing back against it, it seems.

01:06:11.660 And I think that one thing that does concern me is the fate of a country

01:06:19.480 if it fails to resist this sort of thing.

01:06:21.500 And I know Ukraine is its sort of own unique case,

01:06:24.920 but obviously it's been used as a proxy to fight the Russians

01:06:28.480 with lots of European money being pulled into it.

01:06:31.300 And this is sort of your fate of if you lose or if you become part of the hegemon

01:06:36.760 and you have no sovereignty, what will happen is you'll get 10 million Labour migrants.

01:06:43.880 This is what's going to happen to Ukraine once the war is over.

01:06:47.600 They're going to bring in 8 million or 10 million to stay afloat.

01:06:52.080 10 million what?

01:06:53.040 The Marlins?

01:06:53.940 Well, the thing is, I've been thinking about this,

01:06:57.080 if you're a European, are you really going to move to Ukraine?

01:07:01.120 Because of course...

01:07:02.160 No, probably not.

01:07:03.660 One, it didn't have the strongest economy before the war,

01:07:07.560 so it would be a dip in quality of life for, say, a Western European.

01:07:11.400 It would probably be quite easy to find a wife there, though.

01:07:14.060 That's true.

01:07:14.720 In competition.

01:07:17.000 Yeah, that's a dark way of looking at it, but you are right,

01:07:20.000 and they are very beautiful.

01:07:21.460 However, Europeans are probably not likely to go there,

01:07:25.280 especially after the war,

01:07:26.440 because the economy doesn't offer them anything to migrate.

01:07:29.640 It seems like it.

01:07:30.720 It's going to be...

01:07:31.400 Yes.

01:07:31.800 Who's actually going to capitalise on the ability to move to a European country as a step up?

01:07:36.520 As if Ukraine hasn't suffered enough, that's what's going to be inflicted upon them.

01:07:40.420 It's going to be Indians, it's going to be sub-Saharan Africans,

01:07:42.900 people who don't mind living amongst the rubble of a destroyed civilisation,

01:07:46.640 and in fact, for some of them, it's going to be an aesthetic improvement.

01:07:49.900 And by the way, I see the Ukraine war as one of the principal achievements of it,

01:07:55.580 from a dark point of view, is keeping Germany and Russia apart.

01:08:00.920 Because, I mean, the great game of European politics for the last 200 years

01:08:05.280 has been keeping Germany and Russia apart.

01:08:07.020 And I just see the Ukraine war as an extension of that.

01:08:11.820 It seems to be a little bit,

01:08:13.280 and I do know that many of the Eastern European countries are taking it a lot more seriously

01:08:17.840 than some of the Western European countries,

01:08:20.220 sort of France and Britain and the like.

01:08:23.520 You know, we're far enough away from it that we don't really feel that much pressure.

01:08:29.120 But Poland takes it very, very seriously.

01:08:31.960 You see all the time them talking about Russia.

01:08:34.860 And although we use it as a sort of scare tactic,

01:08:38.160 obviously these countries have a memory of being under Russian control

01:08:41.340 and are genuinely fearful of it because they did suffer under the Soviet Union, obviously.

01:08:46.740 So I'm not saying it's illegitimate.

01:08:48.440 And also, in the case of Poland, they were sandwiched.

01:08:51.340 Exactly, yes.

01:08:52.440 And it was a rough time for them, so I understand that.

01:08:55.140 And their concern, I totally get it,

01:08:57.600 they are on the borders of a country that could be hostile to them

01:09:00.360 and has a history of it.

01:09:02.020 Are you talking about Germany or Russia?

01:09:04.140 Either or.

01:09:05.780 But Western Europe, we're far enough removed that we don't need to worry.

01:09:09.200 And so our attitudes are very different towards it,

01:09:11.660 which I find interesting.

01:09:14.440 We're much more on the sort of,

01:09:16.360 we'll throw in weapons and sort of see what happens.

01:09:18.700 You know, we'll pour some of our money in there.

01:09:20.980 And it can be a proxy war.

01:09:22.340 And it's more political for us than...

01:09:24.620 Well, it's a spectator sport over here.

01:09:26.420 It seems to be.

01:09:27.340 And it's sort of sickening because what's actually happening is

01:09:30.680 a generation of young men have been sent to their death in Ukraine and Russia.

01:09:35.000 Yeah, and you get idiots over here sticking Ukraine flags up in their garden,

01:09:38.280 thinking how wonderful they are,

01:09:39.600 but they're supporting this meat grinder.

01:09:41.660 It's sick.

01:09:43.380 Yeah, it's one of the most gross things that's going on in Europe at the minute.

01:09:48.700 That we're just throwing money at, you know...

01:09:52.040 A meat grinder.

01:09:52.900 Yeah.

01:09:53.680 And destroying our own economies in the process.

01:09:56.760 So, you know, great.

01:09:58.520 But it's not all just Ukraine that needs to be worried.

01:10:05.160 The French as well.

01:10:06.500 You sent me this, Delios.

01:10:07.720 This is from July.

01:10:09.280 All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time

01:10:12.620 to apply for asylum in France.

01:10:14.320 Of course, Europe has become the refugee centre of the world, apparently.

01:10:20.000 If your country is going through trouble,

01:10:21.620 all of a sudden you can live in a much richer country,

01:10:24.000 which definitely is not a bad incentive for our people.

01:10:27.260 Not to mention the fact that, you know,

01:10:30.120 what you're selecting for is cowards, basically.

01:10:33.100 This is real.

01:10:34.040 If it's men.

01:10:34.560 One thing I want to say here is that it does look as if we are governed,

01:10:43.400 in Europe in general, both the UK and continental Europe,

01:10:47.580 we are governed by people who hate European civilization actively

01:10:52.720 or a virtue signal to those who do.

01:10:56.080 Because it looks like all these political parties are trying to show the left

01:11:03.480 how great they are and how progressive they are

01:11:07.200 and how they are the true progressives.

01:11:09.880 Well, I think it's because all of Europe lives in the shadow of World War II

01:11:12.980 because it was such a destructive thing that they process it by saying,

01:11:17.640 well, if we move to the right,

01:11:20.100 therefore there will be camps and people will be killed en masse.

01:11:24.080 And that there's this sort of leap in logic of if, you know,

01:11:27.920 if we deport immigrants, it will be just like mid-century Germany.

01:11:31.880 Yeah, but there was also the Cold War.

01:11:33.800 And the Cold War was between the West and communism.

01:11:37.580 And it's funny how that's forgotten, isn't it?

01:11:40.140 That, you know, both of them were threats to the rest of Europe.

01:11:44.740 Both of them wanted to conquer a large portion of Europe.

01:11:47.140 That is true.

01:11:49.000 I mean, two quick points on this.

01:11:50.360 I mean, we did come close to camps and it was over COVID

01:11:53.240 because several European countries instituted laws against not being vaccinated

01:11:57.200 and they applied criminal sanctions.

01:12:00.720 And Austria, for example, was at the point of having to put 7 million people in camps.

01:12:04.180 So we came close to it, but it wasn't because of, you know, mid-century German politics.

01:12:08.460 It was because of neoliberal politics.

01:12:10.860 And just on this, it's insane.

01:12:14.480 You're going to let the Gaza Strip into France?

01:12:18.380 That's the thing.

01:12:19.400 They're ecophobic.

01:12:20.360 They think it's a virtue to hate your civilization.

01:12:26.260 It's the opposite of xenophobia.

01:12:27.880 And there's an excellent book by Benedict Beckle about it.

01:12:30.920 I've interviewed him and discussed with him.

01:12:34.480 And he says it's the exact opposite of xenophobia.

01:12:37.780 They want to say that, well, we're not xenophobic.

01:12:40.920 We're phobic with our own.

01:12:44.380 It's just a luxury belief, isn't it?

01:12:45.980 It is a luxury belief.

01:12:47.180 And the people who do say this are usually people who live luxury lives.

01:12:52.500 And they hate their own civilization.

01:12:54.500 But they think, in this case, for Gaza,

01:12:58.580 they're very much in favor of the idea of patriotism and self-government for people in Gaza.

01:13:05.880 But they say that the same rhetoric is Nazi-ish in Europe.

01:13:12.520 They also equate...

01:13:13.900 Double standards.

01:13:14.760 They equate oppression with being good, don't they?

01:13:18.180 If you're an oppressed person, you're somehow more virtuous than the oppressor.

01:13:22.960 And the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip are oppressed by the Israelis.

01:13:28.220 And therefore, they must be good people.

01:13:29.880 And therefore, even to question their character and suggest that maybe they cause significant problems in neighboring Lebanon,

01:13:36.300 and that's why Lebanon's not taking any of them,

01:13:38.720 would be a controversial statement or even a xenophobic statement,

01:13:43.060 rather than it just being an observation of reality.

01:13:46.140 It's basically living in the world of abstractions.

01:13:48.920 Rather than looking at, here's how the Palestinians behave,

01:13:52.220 maybe it's a good idea not to have them in your country.

01:13:54.840 Exactly.

01:13:55.460 And because it's abstract, their model for understanding things

01:14:02.680 cannot account for massive discontinuities between cultures.

01:14:07.800 Some cultures have such a vast difference in how they value things

01:14:13.180 that they can't have rules for conflict resolution and coexistence.

01:14:19.700 I know.

01:14:20.620 You can't coexist with everyone in the world.

01:14:22.760 Everyone knows it.

01:14:23.640 Everyone knows that you can't coexist, for instance, with cannibals.

01:14:27.540 Right?

01:14:28.400 I'm not saying that people in Gaza are cannibals.

01:14:30.700 That's not what I'm saying.

01:14:31.040 If you go against Papua New Guinea, Stalios.

01:14:33.500 Yeah, but no, everyone knows it, that you can't coexist with a cannibal.

01:14:37.020 Right?

01:14:37.980 So everyone understands this at a very general level.

01:14:43.060 The point is, start asking yourself, why can't you coexist with a cannibal?

01:14:47.580 And what are you doing when you understand that someone else is a cannibal?

01:14:52.280 And why do you want the population of cannibals to rise?

01:14:56.080 It's a very strong analogy, but I like it.

01:15:01.820 And I think also, the correct response to these sorts of things is, I wouldn't even grant

01:15:07.200 a tourist visa to a significant portion of the world, let alone allow them settle in my

01:15:12.920 country.

01:15:13.680 It's got to be a very selective group of people with a large degree of cultural overlap that

01:15:18.900 should even be eligible to enter your country full stop, you know, for any reason.

01:15:23.460 Because, of course, if, for example, we took Papua New Guinea and cannibal and dropped him

01:15:29.200 in London, not only would he blend in very well, but also, he'd probably cause a large

01:15:33.500 number of problems because he's from such an alien society that he would not be able

01:15:40.080 to integrate under any circumstances, and even future generations would not be able to

01:15:44.500 integrate because they've adapted to a way of life that is antithetical to ours.

01:15:48.560 Also, we need them.

01:15:49.780 I've been thinking about this, because I heard the other day that we can't do a study on

01:15:54.200 microplastics, because you can't find a control group who don't have microplastics in them.

01:16:00.160 So that's why I've decided I really like North Sentinel Islands, because even though they're

01:16:05.020 probably cannibals and they kill you on sight, they don't have any microplastics, and one day

01:16:09.080 we might really need them for a scientific study.

01:16:12.520 I'd imagine they probably would have microplastics, though.

01:16:14.980 They just, just everywhere is infected with them now, the whole planet.

01:16:19.520 But I'd imagine less so there.

01:16:21.000 I would say so, yeah.

01:16:22.300 There would be ways of figuring it out.

01:16:24.520 But even if you do address these sorts of problems, and recognise that migration and all

01:16:30.420 of the policy things we've talked about are problems that need to be reversed, well, unfortunately,

01:16:36.780 you won't be able to do anything about it, because the EU will prevent you from doing anything

01:16:41.380 about it.

01:16:41.800 And here we've got the Lord of Slop here, Inevitable West, all the way back in January

01:16:46.760 of this year, talking about the Romanian right protesting the fact that the EU basically cancelled

01:16:53.220 the democratic result of an ultra-nationalist.

01:16:56.740 So if you do actually have someone who's going to put your country first, and, you know, obviously

01:17:03.600 Romania doesn't necessarily suffer from the same extent of mass migration as, say, France,

01:17:09.340 Germany, Britain, Sweden, and some of those other countries, and even so, they can't be

01:17:16.140 allowed to reverse it.

01:17:17.680 Because if you have a country that is doing particularly well compared to some of the

01:17:24.740 others, then it undermines the whole experiment, doesn't it?

01:17:27.980 Well, it shows why democracy is a scam, because it's a rule book written by your enemies and

01:17:32.160 judged by your enemies.

01:17:33.440 So it's not going to get you anywhere.

01:17:35.160 Just one thing, he won the first round.

01:17:36.940 He was, yeah.

01:17:39.160 Most probably people, I've been told by some people from Romania that most probably, if

01:17:44.900 it went to the second round, he'd lose, because others would ban together.

01:17:49.720 But yeah, I do remember, who was this guy behind the DSA, who was always angry at Elon, who

01:17:58.440 was saying, yeah, we cancelled the elections in Romania, we're going to cancel them everywhere?

01:18:02.940 I do remember that.

01:18:05.280 I can't remember who that person was.

01:18:07.100 He's a French one.

01:18:08.880 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:09.700 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:10.060 You remember this kind of, you know, he was so, on the one hand, he says, let's protect

01:18:14.740 our democracy, and then we're going to cancel all your elections.

01:18:18.380 Yeah, that's who rules Europe.

01:18:20.000 It was just a mask off moment, really, because they don't actually care about democracy.

01:18:24.120 Of course they don't.

01:18:25.140 They care about winning, as most people do.

01:18:28.160 Like, the sort of view of democracy now as this sacred thing that everyone follows the

01:18:33.420 rules of, and you know, it's all fair play.

01:18:35.300 Well, that's out the window in a lot of countries.

01:18:38.440 Not just Europe as well.

01:18:39.900 And I think, actually, in countries like Asia, you know, obviously that's not a country, countries

01:18:46.900 in Asia, or sub-Saharan Africa, they're at least a bit more honest about it, just like,

01:18:51.240 yes, I rigged the election.

01:18:53.980 You know, I got 98%, you know, don't look at the ballots.

01:18:59.000 Whereas we live under this illusion that things are fair, but of course, it's just more obscure

01:19:04.160 and less overt in lots of countries.

01:19:07.200 And so, even if there is a popular movement that gets electoral successes, it's going to

01:19:13.040 face unprecedented resistance from organisations like the EU, even organisations within the

01:19:20.840 country itself.

01:19:21.800 It's going to have coalitions against it.

01:19:23.880 It's going to have the most difficult rise to power humanly possible.

01:19:28.900 And I think that this all basically boils down to the fact that they know that they're

01:19:32.640 going to fix the problems.

01:19:34.160 And it will make their opposition look like, well, we're the ones that caused all of them.

01:19:40.840 And they'll become irrelevant.

01:19:42.480 They might even have, you know, repercussions against them.

01:19:45.980 I think there is a limit to how sort of corrosive they can get for each member state.

01:19:53.880 So maybe, you know, if they have any sense of self-preservation, they should take these issues

01:20:01.400 seriously.

01:20:01.900 Instead of going full authoritarian.

01:20:05.920 So this is another thing from May of this year.

01:20:08.580 Telegram CEO Pavel Durov announced they received a request from the French government to silence

01:20:14.580 conservative voices in Romania.

01:20:16.620 I don't know quite what to think of this because I don't know this Telegram CEO.

01:20:22.440 I don't know whether he's cooperated with people or what the story is.

01:20:25.860 But I've heard rumblings of, you know, things of maybe he's got his own agenda.

01:20:30.440 But who knows?

01:20:32.360 I haven't looked into it, but just, you know, to make you aware.

01:20:36.240 But it is interesting, isn't it?

01:20:37.680 I could certainly see the French government doing this sort of thing because, of course,

01:20:40.800 we're talking about senior voices in Europe.

01:20:43.000 And France and Germany are now the two most senior voices.

01:20:47.520 It seems like Germany is sort of holding the purse strings and the French are holding the

01:20:52.160 sort of, they're policing the politics.

01:20:55.500 That seems to be this sort of dual role they're occupying within Europe at the minute.

01:20:59.340 And it wouldn't surprise me if the EU intervened with this election, albeit the first round,

01:21:07.460 that they would also be trying to use other underhanded tactics to silence them.

01:21:12.340 But the problem is, of course, for them, that as things get worse, people are going to become

01:21:17.720 less and less concerned by these sorts of methods and say, well, OK, you're trying to persecute

01:21:22.140 us.

01:21:22.680 That just means we're right.

01:21:24.020 And it's going to make people more extreme, whichever way you look at it.

01:21:28.200 Although I don't necessarily think that they're going to allow there to be an easy democratic

01:21:34.860 solution to these sorts of things, it's going to go more and more in an extreme, maybe even

01:21:42.680 militant direction in many cases if people don't believe that you can rely on democracy.

01:21:48.140 So what they're doing is creating the monster they fear the most by doing these sorts of things.

01:21:52.840 And it is very short-sighted.

01:21:54.460 And I wanted to just end on a bit more of a positive note, I suppose, which is the Danes

01:22:01.740 are quietly doing very well.

01:22:03.820 I saw this today.

01:22:07.360 And it's a story from Visigrad saying a Danish sperm bank has decided to start IQ tests of

01:22:13.220 donors, banning people with an IQ below 85.

01:22:16.620 That's racist.

01:22:17.320 I know, that's terrible.

01:22:19.540 How could they do that?

01:22:21.360 And Gunny Drukpa here points out correctly that by having this social democratic veneer,

01:22:29.540 actually you can do very based things.

01:22:33.360 Also, why 85?

01:22:34.440 I mean, what woman goes to a sperm bank and says, I'd like an 87 IQ, please?

01:22:39.500 I know, at least cap it at like 100 average at best.

01:22:42.200 But again, why would you go for that?

01:22:44.920 You should have 145 IQ minimum men and just milk them.

01:22:52.620 Is there a little bit of an incentive here, Dan?

01:22:54.700 Is that what's going on?

01:22:56.320 I mean, Danish women are very attractive.

01:22:57.520 Why 85?

01:22:58.420 I mean, that doesn't make it easy.

01:22:59.700 If you're going to select for a boundary, make it higher, in my opinion.

01:23:02.700 But I find it interesting that no one's saying, you know, the Danes, they're being eugenicists,

01:23:08.220 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:23:09.360 Because they have this veneer, it's all acceptable politics and therefore they can get away with

01:23:14.120 more.

01:23:15.020 And quietly in the background, they've been doing lots of interesting things.

01:23:19.440 And Drukpa, again, has been pointing out some other things of, in response to Denmark

01:23:25.420 raising the retirement age.

01:23:26.780 He's basically saying that you can sort of get away with the social democracy sorts of

01:23:33.180 things if you just pay attention to what the data is telling you and quietly do it in the

01:23:37.580 background.

01:23:38.940 There was a hilarious incident with a BBC reporter who went to a social democrat in Denmark trying

01:23:45.800 to talk about multiculturalism and the social democrat destroyed him.

01:23:50.440 Really?

01:23:51.080 Yeah.

01:23:51.340 Well, it's not surprising, really, because they've been collecting some of the best data

01:23:55.540 in Europe about migration, and it's been incredibly useful.

01:24:00.740 They've limited migration a significant amount, and lo and behold, they're mysteriously doing

01:24:07.680 quite well.

01:24:08.700 I've talked about Poland doing well as well, but of course they're being flooded by migration

01:24:12.700 now to a certain extent too.

01:24:14.600 But there's a sort of way out here that if you just pay attention to what the numbers

01:24:20.660 are telling you and make pragmatic choices, you can fix things.

01:24:25.860 You know, just quietly do away with the migration.

01:24:30.160 You know, quietly raise the IQ boundaries.

01:24:33.240 Dear realist, just look at the world around you.

01:24:36.680 Okay.

01:24:37.480 User says here, keep going for 10 euros.

01:24:40.460 Thank you very much.

01:24:41.260 Krish 2A1 for 10 euros says, have you considered it's all worth it because no matter where Piers

01:24:50.140 Morgan goes in Europe, he can have a nice curry.

01:24:54.460 Yeah, that was, this interview was two of the people I consider the least credible talking

01:25:01.140 to each other.

01:25:01.560 The funny thing is as well that on the continent, they don't really have that much Indian food.

01:25:06.560 Like Indian food is more of a phenomenon in Britain and particularly the tikka masala,

01:25:11.700 which of course has its origins in Scotland, albeit dubiously.

01:25:16.680 So Piers isn't actually going to be able to get his tikka masala.

01:25:20.800 He's from Scotland.

01:25:21.500 Why isn't it deep fried?

01:25:22.700 Comparative history.

01:25:24.320 Relatively healthy.

01:25:25.140 For £5 says it's more likely that Putin is positioning Russia for the fall of Western

01:25:29.860 Europe rather than invasion.

01:25:31.200 I mean, I don't know, I think he did invade Ukraine, but also I don't think that Russia

01:25:36.520 is in such a great state as Tucker says.

01:25:39.920 Principled uncertainty for £10 says the West realized that they could no longer be at the

01:25:44.780 beck and call of fossil fuels ingeniously.

01:25:47.100 They hijacked environmentalism to make energy austerity a choice, not an imposition.

01:25:53.160 Xavier.

01:25:53.640 Well, there is something to say about this in that both Norway and Great Britain have

01:26:00.680 the North Sea oil field.

01:26:02.500 There's lots of natural gas we can produce.

01:26:07.440 Europe need not rely on importing energy.

01:26:11.640 Also, France has all of its nuclear power stations.

01:26:15.760 Obviously, Germany has some.

01:26:17.080 We could rely on that quite easily.

01:26:20.900 You don't have to be so cynical about our future there.

01:26:25.360 Xavier for $5, I think.

01:26:29.100 Good day, lads.

01:26:29.900 Bismarck is spinning in his grave along with Kaiser Wilhelm II in Norway, I think.

01:26:35.540 Suck duck for $5 as you're forgetting the official operation of NATO is to keep Germany down

01:26:44.680 and Russia out so they can't have cheap energy.

01:26:47.620 Principled uncertainty for £10.

01:26:49.540 How many watts does it take to power Stelios?

01:26:54.400 Okay.

01:26:55.060 And we have a 141 Paladin for $10.

01:26:58.180 Hey, Dan, could you explore critiquing the free market from a right-wing perspective?

01:27:02.280 I'm not a socialist, but I feel the capitalist class is heavily invested and ruining civilization.

01:27:08.360 What can be done?

01:27:09.060 Yeah, I mean, that's the sort of themes I touch on in Brokonomics, but I'll maybe include a bit more of that.

01:27:19.380 The engaged few, that's just what Germany needs.

01:27:21.940 Another clutch of economists assuming a can opener.

01:27:25.380 Plasma Stream says, I wonder what the patent is.

01:27:28.780 Principal uncertainty again about me.

01:27:30.720 No man has ever needed to drop an E more than Stelios.

01:27:34.600 I will go Eskimo hunting with you, Stelios, if you want to.

01:27:39.060 Okay, Gimli, son of Gloin.

01:27:41.220 The industry in Germany is starting to side with AFD, though, so politics has to follow at some point.

01:27:46.780 As if the industry can survive until that point, right?

01:27:49.940 Luke Stewart.

01:27:51.460 He is actually giving a good answer to you.

01:27:54.480 The reason why a lot of people have foreign wives is that the ones here are mental,

01:27:59.600 and so men have to, what Jesus said in Luke 13, 6, 12.

01:28:04.380 I'm going to look that up.

01:28:05.300 Okay, and we have another one.

01:28:08.280 Again, by principal uncertainty for £10, thank you very much.

01:28:11.600 It will never just be the native population versus the foreigners, as most modes predict.

01:28:16.960 It will be the visitors and their indigenous supporters.

01:28:19.780 Very different numbers.

01:28:21.700 Right, should we go to the videos, please?

01:28:24.220 Apparently, Jesus said, woman, thou art loose from thine infirmity.

01:28:29.740 Okay.

01:28:32.340 Wise words from Jesus, then.

01:28:34.040 Let's go and watch Zesty King.

01:28:36.660 Hey again, load seaters.

01:28:37.840 Still in Carlisle, and currently I'm at the cathedral.

01:28:42.580 Very nice, indeed.

01:28:46.040 Lovely stained glass there.

01:28:47.580 And look at that roof.

01:28:48.500 Classic St. George up there, killing a dragon.

01:28:57.280 Also, some beautiful medieval wall art right here.

01:29:03.620 Well, I'm joking.

01:29:05.580 Okay.

01:29:06.780 Let's go to the next one.

01:29:07.800 I didn't realise he was a vampire.

01:29:09.500 I think that was the fun yesterday.

01:29:10.520 The spirit of the postmodern leftist xenophilia seems to...

01:29:14.420 Nope.

01:29:16.080 Yep.

01:29:16.640 Was this one yesterday?

01:29:17.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:19.980 It is amusing how the physiognomy of the Your Party Conference checks out.

01:29:24.920 Communism has proven time and again that it is the ideology of spiteful mutants.

01:29:29.640 Many of the old traditions we spurned because of their antiquity and lack of tact are turning out to be true,

01:29:35.060 as they were the solution to questions we had yet to formulate but instinctually knew we needed solutions.

01:29:41.020 Maybe we'll see come to pass one of the most notable solutions.

01:29:44.420 Savage pagans turning to Christianity.

01:29:47.300 Yeah, let's go to the next one.

01:29:50.100 G'day, Lotus Eaters.

01:29:53.740 I haven't posted in a long while, primarily because I've been busy, but also I just got back from a trip to Vietnam.

01:30:00.880 Yay.

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01:30:09.960 I've got a very good hourly rate that's very negotiable.

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01:30:18.720 Thank you.

01:30:19.720 Thank you.

01:30:20.720 Thank you.

01:30:21.720 Let's go to the next one.

01:30:22.720 Okay, let's move to some of the comments.

01:30:30.220 Sophie Liv, I'll be extra careful reading your comments, Sophie.

01:30:33.900 Ha, yeah.

01:30:35.160 Denmark is only doing well in comparison to the countries around us.

01:30:39.280 Germany and Sweden.

01:30:40.460 What was that noise?

01:30:42.300 Something coffee.

01:30:43.080 Being three steps behind Sweden but going in the same direction isn't exactly great, guys.

01:30:48.420 We also have constant increases in Muslim migration and 20% of the population being either foreigners or children of foreigners.

01:30:56.040 Sophie's always, every time we say something good about Denmark, Sophie is going to come back and say something bad about Denmark.

01:31:02.880 You're a spiritual Brit.

01:31:03.500 Sophie, I want a good comment about Denmark.

01:31:07.460 Well, Denmark has a Sophie, so it's got that in its favour.

01:31:10.460 Yeah, an extra good news.

01:31:12.540 Something extra.

01:31:13.720 We know this.

01:31:14.560 Omar Awad, it's politically suicidal to ride this tiger to the end.

01:31:18.460 If they form a coalition with the AFD, there would be negotiation and compromise and continue to suppress a large block of political will.

01:31:27.100 They're ensuring that there will never be a level of contribution, of retribution.

01:31:32.660 I mean, that's a good point.

01:31:33.780 I mean, what you kind of want is for the AFD to become so dominant in the end that they don't have to compromise.

01:31:39.700 But they don't have to form a coalition with the SDP or something, you know, maybe the Libertarian Party or they really, really have to do the CDU.

01:31:49.140 Or you have a massive, something that could happen, you have a massive sort of, you know, civil strife within the CDU and half or more goes and forms a coalition with the AFD.

01:32:02.520 I mean, it's also worth mentioning that many people on this podcast are to the right of the AFD anyway.

01:32:10.340 And so they're not exactly that radical.

01:32:13.380 And it might take a lot more than even what the AFD is proposing to help save Germany.

01:32:18.960 I really liked this discussion because it seems to me that there are two fundamentally different ways of carving the political spectrum that people are using.

01:32:48.240 So one is the economic, where it says if you don't have a, you know, it's command economy versus free market.

01:32:56.680 And they say the Nazis weren't free market, so they're closer to the other bit.

01:33:01.060 But the other is the more French Revolution style, where, you know, towards the right and further right, you had people who were basically against the revolution.

01:33:10.100 And they wanted to go back to absolute monarchy, although not with populist characteristics.

01:33:15.100 I think the Nazis had populist rhetoric in their ideology.

01:33:21.300 Michael Brooks says, right-wingers like myself have foreign wives because there are more morality similar to us than the weirdo feminist produced by our system.

01:33:29.440 Also, having a foreign influence in the House helps you to recognize the great things in your culture that make it unique and thus wants to protect them without the need to hate others.

01:33:41.220 Makes sense, actually.

01:33:42.540 Brian Tomlinson, when I read of right-wing politicians being locked up for wrong thing, I always wonder whether when the ECHR are going to turn up to protect their right to free political expression.

01:33:54.300 They won't because it's the people.

01:33:57.200 The ECHR has a Article 8 that heavily suggests that there is no such thing as a categorical opposition to deportations from the ECHR.

01:34:07.980 So it's much more the people who are behind it.

01:34:12.360 The whole concept of human rights is basically just made up, isn't it?

01:34:15.520 It's just a political agenda.

01:34:17.540 You're not born with these rights, you know.

01:34:20.420 I don't think so.

01:34:21.060 You're a libertarian.

01:34:22.620 Well.

01:34:23.180 How come?

01:34:24.300 I'm a very specific kind in that, you know, I don't think, I think these rights are basically just like a shopping list of things people want and they don't really have any basis in reality.

01:34:38.580 They're just, you know, it's like I could say I have a right to a Porsche, doesn't mean the government should give you one.

01:34:44.300 I mean, I do have a right to a Porsche, by the way.

01:34:46.920 Henry Ashman says Germany went mental over nuclear energy and it feels like everything else in the industrial collapse springs from that.

01:34:55.920 Going green was worse overall than going nuclear.

01:34:58.680 Then that led to a reliance on coal and Russian gas to top up.

01:35:02.880 Then Russia definitely blew up, within quotation marks, definitely the pipeline that was their biggest source of leverage, driving Germany back to coal.

01:35:12.040 Time Steeler, why do so many right wing, ah, yeah, we had this, Anonymy, I went to a German Christmas market in Japan, no barriers, safe and extremely clean, especially at night with people drinking.

01:35:24.100 Dudley Douchebag says what is the current opinion of the new Republican movement video that is now circulating?

01:35:32.040 Tempest in a teapot to entrap the angry Irish or a movement that intends to be radical, trying to not FedPost on this new bit of news.

01:35:40.640 I haven't seen that.

01:35:41.420 It's three Irish boomers in a living room somewhere wearing balaclavas and putting bedsheets up.

01:35:49.360 And it shouldn't be read into any more than that because it's just three blokes looking like the IRA.

01:35:55.280 It's not to be taken too seriously.

01:35:57.600 Then, last comment, Cambrian Kulak says, Dan, would you do an episode on the Morgenthau plan?

01:36:02.860 Financial sovereignty was attempted and that was the punishment, leaving a legacy to this day.

01:36:09.040 I'll think about it, yeah.

01:36:11.600 Right, thank you very much.

01:36:13.780 I hope you enjoyed it.

01:36:15.660 Thank you very much, Josh.

01:36:16.980 Thank you very much, Dan.

01:36:18.280 You're welcome.

01:36:19.720 See you tomorrow at 1pm.

01:36:22.000 Goodbye.

01:36:22.680 I'm just off to be milked.

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - December 02, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1308

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