The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1314
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1 hour and 30 minutes
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177.7471
Summary
Eliza Heverin joins me to discuss the scandal that is Pierce Morgan and his relationship with his wife, Eliza's social media accounts, and the new ban on social media for under 16s in Australia.
Transcript
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hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus it is episode 1314 for wednesday the 10th of december
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2025. i'm your host luca joined today by harry as always and special guest friend of the show
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elizabeth heverin thank you for joining us for having me that's all right you've done a few epochs
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haven't you in the past with beau on uh some stuff on the roman republic and yeah and jeffrey of
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monmouth so uh yeah it'd be good to have you on the podcast because today ladies and gentlemen
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we're going to be talking all about how uh pierce morgan just seems to be unbelievably cooked
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there's no other way to put it really is there possibly an actual cook old speculation on my part
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okay so it'll be a very speculative segment from harry uh i'm then going to lead us through a
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discussion about uh australia's uh new ban on social media for under 16s and then we're going to talk
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about how the pits are also being erased and it turns out that they are they too are african yeah
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yeah the uh diversity washing of british history yeah okay splendid all right so harry over to you
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all right then so everybody hates pierce morgan and seemingly that includes his darling beloved wife
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and we've been doing some examinations we've been doing some analysis exploring into his relationship
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with his wife and found that there appears to be quite a bit amiss within what may seem like a
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very rosy relationship from the outside at least if we take her social media posts numerous columns
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interviews and other such things as indicative excuse me sorry as indicative of their relationship
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now you might be wondering what started all of this well something very simple started this which was
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the legend already legendary watershed moment that was nick fuentes interview with pierce morgan
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which i have not watched in full i have watched many clips which are all hilarious and i have watched
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the first 30 minutes of it which are also all every single minute of it is completely hilarious it's a
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laugh a minute riot guys you don't even need to agree with anything that nick is doing or saying to be
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able to get a lot of enjoyment out of it because it really is a clash of generations that we witnessed
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before us pierce morgan representing the perhaps boomer mindset he is an old gen xer but he's still very
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much rooted in that post-war morality versus a zoomer like fuentes who is completely oh he's completely
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over the post-war morality that has been put on us for so many decades and seeing the two meet is
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hilarious because nick isn't over the post-war morality he is also very confident in saying so and
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unlike many does not shy away from the controversy that comes from that and doesn't shy away from the
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questions but but despite his very good handling of the interview pierce morgan is nothing if not a world
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class piece of shit he is the scummiest of tabloid journalists just as a reminder for everybody
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years ago now he was found guilty in a court of law an english court of law of uh being aware of
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journalists underneath him at the daily mirror which he was formerly the editor of at the time
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of phone hacking and this included hacking the phone of a dead person to try to find personal
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information and any kind of leaks that could be used for tabloid purposes omid scoby co-author of
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finding freedom in an official 2020 biography of harry and megan prince harry and megan you don't have to
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like them to understand that this does not reflect well on pierce morgan gave evidence that morgan was
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reassured over a 2002 story about singer kylie minogue and her then partner james gooding after
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being told it had come from a voicemail interception the judge referred to evidence as well given by
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david seymour group political editor of the daily mirror from 1993 to 2007 that morgan had played a
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voicemail in the newsroom of paul mccartney singing a song by the beatles to his then wife in 2001
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there was a lot of other evidence presented as well but he was found guilty in a court of law no
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matter how much he may deny it and uh we've just got to remember that that is the kind of character
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of person that we are dealing with which is why it is unsurprising when during what should be an
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interview on uh one-to-one with nick fuentes which should just be if you want to interrogate nick and
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his beliefs that's absolutely fine that's what he came there for where piers decides to bring nick's
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father into the into it less than 15 minutes into the interview and then also names him so let's watch
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this clip which is where all of this originates say is everyone's a product of their environment
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and i was reading some stuff about you in the last few days there was an episode of your podcast
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where you talked about your father bill fuentes and how he wouldn't take the family including you
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to certain restaurants because he believed they were associated with african-americans
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we would be deciding where to go to eat he said what are we going to do for dinner tonight it was a
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running joke me and my sister would say applebee's and my dad would say we would never eat at applebee's
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not in a million years should you be caught dead fuentes said about applebee's go to a different
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restaurant a local restaurant no applebee's no red lobster that is commonly known as black fare
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and you also shared another story about your family and restaurants said before me and my sister were
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born my family had a saying about olive garden that contains the n-word that we're not allowed to say
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so my question based on that anecdote that you say on your own podcast is do you think you grew up in
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a racist environment that your father was inherently racist and that that thought process
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well i would say it's a new low i've been attacked for being a racist many times but to attack my
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father to attack my parents based on anecdotes i would say that's that's sort of a new low hang on
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it's your anecdote yeah but he's not here to defend himself you are my parents are you told
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the story and i will and i i'm not trying to ambush you as i said at the start nick to be clear no it's
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not an ambush but i think everybody understands i'm literally reading an anecdote that you revealed
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on your podcast it's you that's put it in the public domain i know i'm simply asking you
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whether my assessment of that which is that your father didn't want to take you to certain restaurants
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because of what you refer to as they were commonly known as black fare whether that attitude to
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african americans in in that instance permeated to you it's a reasonable question yeah no like i said
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i think everybody knows what that is but i'll address it i'll engage with it and i'll defend my
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father from the charge of racism sure no my parents my parents are not racist and they've never been
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racist i'll tell you about my parents they used to have a school in chicago in the south loop where
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they instructed people on how to shoot firearms it was a security school and most of the clients were
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black and i believe actually one of their clients was larry hoover's son at one point sort of a funny
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story and so most of their clients would come in from the south side of chicago my grandmother she
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grew up in the projects in the city and so my family being in chicago being ethnics uh being italian irish
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mexican in the west side uh on taylor street all over the city my family for many generations have
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lived near and around black people and look my views about black people and their views about black
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people are shaped with experiences with black people uh and what they will tell you what my parents would
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say if they were here is that for many many years the older generations of black people were very
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respectful very humble very decent in fact my grandma used to have an anecdote she grew up in a
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lot of dysfunction her mother was mentally ill and they would be having dinner in the projects and
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there'd be so much chaos and dysfunction and disagreement and fighting and she would look
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across the way out the window at a black family in the other apartment and they'd be holding hands
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around the table saying grace and this is sort of the culture that used to prevail but now what you
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have in the city is that there's no accountability for the black people and now chicago has become a
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complete dump because these teenagers go out and they take over the city they call them teen takeovers
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that's the euphemism for it they're teenagers but they all come from the same neighborhood they drive up
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there and they mug people and attack people and they destroy cars and destroy shops we had the festival
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of lights a couple of weeks ago it's supposed to be a family event and they light up the trees and
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they you know there's a big parade i was in the parade one year and you had a bunch of black people
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there shooting each other seven people shot a 14 year old killed in the magnificent mile and and i know
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there's a lot of black people that feel the same way about this they say we've lost control of the city
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and we're looking for accountability we have a lot of black people that are always outraged about racism
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outraged about attitudes from white people but they're never ashamed of some of these behaviors never
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ashamed of some of the things that go on and that's why i just thought i'd let a bit of that play
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extra just so that you could see nick's own response to that because it was really a very underhanded blow
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to try and bring his own father into it his father who i don't believe had ever been named on the public
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record as well before so putting his full name out into the public square was not only very sleazy but
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could have very dangerous real life repercussions for nick's father if people watch this and decide
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that they want to try to get to the source of nick fuentes given that he's trying to suggest through
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that that oh this is an environment of racism which has bred nick fuentes who is now the greatest
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threat to democracy we just had charlie kirk get shot just three months ago right yeah and now that
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you're putting private citizens names out into the public square off of the basis of random anecdotes
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that nick was telling on his own show you are an utter scumbag pierce morgan you are the lowest of
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the low to try and do this for the sake of a gotcha moment nick said that oh no you know this isn't an
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ambush i think he was being very kind to you by saying that in the moment because it very clearly was an
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ambush to try and throw him off for the rest of the interview and i've got to commend him on how well he
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was able to compose himself oh yeah the rest of the discussion that they had to the point where he
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was really like that was that was pierce's only moment of getting the upper hand even for a brief
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second through the rest of the interview because the rest of it really did come off as quite a
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domineering performance uh from nick not to glaze him too much or anything of course pierce seems to
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think that he won this whole exchange uh with possibly the most pure unfiltered cringe i've ever
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seen in my life because obviously everyone's calling him a boomer boomer pierce boomer morgan
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he responds memo to all groipers when you call me a boomer i take it as a massive compliment i literally
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use the word boom constantly on here to celebrate everything from arsenal goals to england wickets and
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pierce uncensored ratings i'm a very proud boomer accompanied by of course this gif of robert
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downey jr as iron man oh yeah saying boom tony stark pierce morgan same energy he has to be
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rage baiting there's no way i think his entire life is rage baiting but i also think that he just
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i think this is him i think this is who he is he is like this is him in all sincerity and if this
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was me in all sincerity i would hope that i don't wake up tomorrow morning personally if i knew that
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i had to live a day as pierce morgan i would rather take the eternal slumber personally that's just my
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opinion that's just my opinion but obviously um what we're focusing on is the personal attacks the
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bringing the family into what should have been a discussion about nick about his beliefs trying to
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throw him off just for the sake of a gotcha moment uh which has had some pretty negative uh
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repercussions for peers because nick quite rightly was furious about this he caught me off guard that
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was so shitty what he did with my father because he knows what he's doing he says my dad he doxed my
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dad too he says my father's name and then says oh your dad's racist and this is his name that was low
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and everyone knows what he was doing there everybody knows and now you put a target on my
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dad i hope you know that so i hope you're happy with yourself and that that is out of line actually
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um family should be off limits i'm in the arena you want to call me a racist i'm the one doing the show
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my father's not a public figure he's not political so that that's the only part that did bother me because
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that is bullshit and i won't get mad you can attack me all you want i don't care but you know my father
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leave him out of it he's a civilian and that was low i mean you're you should know better than that
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you're on television you've got a million plus followers on twitter you're a major celebrity you're
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naming a random private person and he knows that he's inciting political attacks on my dad and my family
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and my and my parents fucking livelihood my parents have cancer they're fucking sick
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yeah and as a result of all of that he's now said that you know you want to come after my father and
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his livelihood your whole family is fair game now and in a game of tit for tat sadly that is how it's
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going to work piz you are the one who felt low enough to actually take these tactics in the first
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place so it's it's only fair if people come after you as well of course i have already seen some
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people supposedly on nick's side uh who have been disavowed going after his uh youngest daughter
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which i don't i don't think it's worth it to stoop that low no but the thing and i also think the
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comments themselves were disgusting but but people fixated on one particular part of this interview
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and thought there has to be a reason that piz holds these views okay but it's fine where were we
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we were talking about trump you're white knighting for women's rights on trump well i think women
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should have the same rights as you and i you don't that's fine put on the pink hat bro put on the
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pink hat we're waiting what's the pink hat for the uh for the march for the women's march are we
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going to see you at the women's march protesting for women's rights and all that i think women should
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have equal rights to men period you carry tampons in case your female friends get a period or something
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like it's crazy i'd have no problem i'd have no problem giving a female friend a tampon would
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you have a so brave you've ever seen a tampon have you gross absolutely not you think tampons are
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gross uh yeah they're filled with period blood yeah it's kind of gross wow are you into that you like
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that have you ever seen a lot of tampons i don't think you've ever seen it have you
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i've seen them i've seen them before you've been that close to a woman really no i i've seen them
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uh look i i you know i used to live with women so i've seen them around the house i bet you've seen
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videos haven't you what what are we doing here piers i'm not sure you really hate that i'm not sure
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you're more impressed that i'm a misogynist than you are about anything it's not really i'm more i'm
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more exercised about your blatant self-admitted racism than i'm i mean honestly like that's the
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the complete reasonable response here like what the what the hell are you doing here what are we
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talking about why is piers his main in like he wants to drill down and interrogate do you watch the
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female members of your family put their tampons in do you carry tampons around tampons are amazing
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they're delightful they're incredible oh that's says says piers morgan right like he's trying to
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make it out like it's just cool and normal like if he actually does like obvious obviously all he was
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doing there was reacting to nick's bait nick baited him the whole way through there but like if you do
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have a male friend who's like overtly kind about like tampons and period business and they like
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actually want to carry tampons just in case one of their female friends just just happens to go on
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their period then and there that guy's a creep well it reminds me of like a transgender when they carry
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tampons and i'm starting to think in the movie home alone that piers morgan was actually the woman
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yeah yeah oh the pigeon lady yeah yeah so true never seen them in the same place together exactly
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yeah like what kind of creep does that a guy who does that is the only kind of guy who's going to
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try he's he's just doing it to get you to like him and so he can get close to you so that then he
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can get close to you right or he's just virtue signaling and that's all that this was but people
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went like this is a really weird thing to virtue signal about pretending that periods and tampons
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aren't gross why would he think this why would he say this so proudly and then people well you know
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it's fair game let's look into his let's look into his family life let's see what might be motivating
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all of this and what do we find well we find that he has a wife celia walden wife without his surname
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weird and she does this thing where she just goes on and on in every interview every social media post
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every column that she writes about how awful he is to be around how much she hates him how much she
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prefers the company of other men how much she wishes any other man yeah literally gay men as well
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literally how much she wants younger men to come and sweep her off of her feet like here's some
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examples piers morgan wife i wear the trousers celia walden on good morning britain star piers morgan's
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life stories is back when it comes to piers own personal life his wife celia says that she
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wears the trousers here's wife celia walden has often spoken about life with the itv good morning
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britain star piers before he got kicked off it confessing she believes she wears the trousers she
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responds to the question of whether she wore the trousers in their relationship saying oh yes i think
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so i think women are always quietly in charge i just think it's best to let the men think that they
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are no piers doesn't want to think that he's in charge he desperately wants you to know that you're
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in charge because he's such a good husband uh she took a six week sabbatical apparently from their
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marriage and i know that this is all like tabloid dredging up shit but this has been piers entire
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career he is the lowest of the low scumbag he tried to do these tactics on somebody who went into an
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interview with him on the basis of good faith knowing of course that piers was going to be
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the usual pos that he is but still not expecting that he would dox his father and try to frame him
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as the founding reason why nick is such a diabolical feral nazi well it's such a sinister thing to do
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because as you say he's using nick's father to somehow use an example of relationships in nick's
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life that made the monster products of their environment so i think it's only fair to examine
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piers own environment exactly so and why is that explains why is that yeah why what's the explanation
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why you like this piers why are you just such a good man why do you just care so much about women's
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rights clearly it's for the sake of your wife who hates you and who can blame her piers admitted that
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celia has forgotten their anniversary every single year since they tied the knot in 2010
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speaking on itv's lorraine he revealed she's forgotten it for nine consecutive years it's just
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like i'm not in her airspace at all that's the thing the woman should be worrying about like that's
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not the thing that you should be worried about it should be the man forgetting the anniversary have
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you not watched sitcoms from the 60s piers good god and here's a photo of him uh
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being posted all over social media at the time of him vacuuming the place after he got fired from
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good morning britain and you know it's like it's one of these things right where one or two of these
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things by themselves because i've got more examples one or two of these things by themselves oh it's
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just a little bit of a playful thing they're both public figures let's have some fun in the public eye
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it's literally any time she mentions him yeah the entire discussion that she has about him
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in the public sphere is just i hate you you're old you're gross you don't fulfill me hit you need to
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you need to be my bitch like once or twice i'd be like good one honey that's quite good every time
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you speak about me in public i go listen have we got a problem here but piers morgan apparently he
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absolutely loves the humiliation that he i think he's into it he loves the humiliation that she foists
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on him every single day i mean she's outright like this is the stuff that she posts on her instagram
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where here's me with lenny kravitz desperately wanting to have sex with him here's me with some
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random gay man yes but i just ever so prefer putting my hands all over him than i do you piers
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even though he's gay i still prefer it here's me taking a cheeky undercarriage shot of another man's
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arse as he washes my car good job it's not you piers or i might vomit here's me posting like i'm a
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literal prostitute next to the pool please anybody other than my husband come and have sex with me
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applications now open like like again once or twice it's just a little joke i died to report a
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murder yeah this feels this is just like over and over and over again here we go again here's what
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she says about him in interviews being married to him is very one very long eye roll what most people
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don't realize is is that he's usually very quiet home because he's exhausted himself on whatever
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interview he's doing this is after his immediate exit from good morning britain this is the only reason
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about him leaving good morning britain so the idea that she has to talk to him now well that and the
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fact that i wake up and there he is staring back at me morning after morning you must have done
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something horrible in a past life to deserve that celia because that does sound like a personal kind of
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hell she then explains how they met one another and it really does just sound like he wore her down
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with enough persistence and she just got taken in by the glamour of the whole thing she said i had a
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friend who had a crush on piers and i told her she was mad but we arranged to to meet for an interview
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i assume he was interviewing her and piers managed to string it out over the course of about four
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different meetings he kept saying yeah there are a few things i didn't quite get and each of these
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meetings ended up in us having more and more alcohol so he just tried to get you drunk enough
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to like him until eventually he declared his real motivations and said the thing is you tick every single
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one of my boxes and i said that's weird because you don't tick any of mine it's the fact she's gone
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to the press about this and so well she's a columnist she's a columnist and she this is like her main
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subject that she talks about is how much she hates her husband wow like look at this piers morgan reveals
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he met his wife celia walden after he bombed while giving a speech and she laughed at his discomfort
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great start great start many a magical moment after that i'm sure and there's just a collection
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like this is her most recent instagram post this guy is gay but again like most of the pictures that
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she posts are not of piers here's her saying oh i'm a loose woman here's me what about to get
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railroaded by a bunch of um navy seals here's me thirsting over a much younger man please anybody
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sleep with me here's me cooking my husband every post that has to do with piers himself
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is her humiliating him making him read books saying things like uh like oh he needs to read
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this or i'll divorce him here's me posing topless in a newspaper spread a divorce will be less
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embarrassing at this point at this point tremendously less embarrassing i i think she i mean it seems like
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for the past however long they've been married she's just been slowly inch by inch digging a six
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foot hole to bury him in here here she is like here's my husband he's an absolute arse here i am
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calling him a massive blowhard he's literally the devil i agree with you on that one here i am with
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rob watts's face handsome hollywood actor god i wish i was married to him instead here i am with random
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black man i'll take literally anything over piers here i am with another handsome actor please anybody
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take me here he is in the literal sewage where he belongs like jesus christ here he is standing in
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front of this sign the only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it resist it and your
00:26:04.100
soul grows sick this is her like stand in front of this sign to let everybody know that i'm cooking
00:26:09.320
you piers giving smiling interviews about why they took the marriage sabbatical her saying that he's a
00:26:16.640
feminist on public television her laying in bed with another gay man yes but still she's very eager
00:26:22.480
to lay in bed with other men by the looks of it by her social media her saying that she was on ashley
00:26:27.340
madison for research purposes it was for journalistic research purposes and then saying why we all need a
00:26:34.520
best boyfriend any men's attention other than my husband that's what i'm after says piers morgan's wife
00:26:41.140
so if we're to look into the environment of piers morgan and try and examine why he would say
00:26:47.280
such ridiculous things like tampons and periods aren't gross why he is such a cuck for all of the
00:26:55.160
women around him i think it's because uh frankly i i can only assume speculation that he gets off on this
00:27:02.640
this is something yeah that he likes because frankly whether or not it started off as a joke
00:27:09.260
this is just beat down after beat down for his for the entire rest of his life over their marriage
00:27:16.800
i wouldn't put up with this no man with a backbone would put up with this even if it was just a joke
00:27:22.180
after a certain point it's going to come across like what it is her publicly insulting you every single
00:27:28.640
day whenever you're brought up so piers maybe you should worry less about nick and his views and his
00:27:36.600
families and maybe you should sort your own household out first mate he definitely gets off on
00:27:42.220
it if you look at you know his career and the fact he debates like different white wingers he's constantly
00:27:47.500
being humiliated by them i mean there's like famous clip with ben shapiro years and years ago where he's
00:27:53.000
debating ben shapiro when um he's at the start of his career and he pulls out like a constitution um the
00:27:59.220
american constitution and it's like you should read this you know you should catch up on american
00:28:03.940
history because they're debating gun control um so he he kind of reminds me of like the class clown
00:28:10.300
who gets off from people bullying him yeah but also he's one of those people that actually it doesn't
00:28:16.520
matter because he knows obviously this interview with nick is going to get huge numbers of views as
00:28:21.920
many of his interviews recently and actually it doesn't matter how humiliated he is by every single
00:28:29.020
guess that he brings on as they just steamroll yeah all of his arguments so long as he gets the views
00:28:34.840
so long as he gets the bank uh the bank account numbers up so long as he gets his curry
00:28:39.100
he's happy yeah and uh let's go on to the rumble rants blood for the blood god two hundred dollars
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thank you very much thank you future rules and wanted to make sure the back still happy and warm
00:28:51.720
i assume the back room guys and sharing enough with the vent devil honestly you might as well
00:28:58.720
have written that in latin that is some good esoteric knowledge thank you but thank you very much for
00:29:04.100
the two hundred dollars anyway blood for the blood god that's a very kind donation big numbers today
00:29:08.180
thank you very much chris r1288 i feel like you were close uh i told you yesterday white guilt equals ray
00:29:17.360
the rise of cook pornography might have to do a paper on this i will warn you that if you look
00:29:22.740
into the kinds of people producing and uh pornography and their reasons for doing so you will get
00:29:28.080
yourself in trouble and only be able to publish those papers in certain publications marx lives
00:29:32.600
pierce's fascination with menstrual blood during the uh the nf interview really freaked me out
00:29:37.580
is this a british thing sort of like india's cultural fascination with poop or just a pierce thing
00:29:43.040
just a pierce thing it's a pierce thing cranky texan nick made a mistake defending the racism
00:29:48.660
charge even acknowledging it gives it power in current reality he should have just feigned outrage
00:29:52.940
that pierce dare talk about his parents at all that might have been one way of approaching it but i
00:29:57.860
can understand if i'd been in nick's um situation uh coming across like it rattled him may have not
00:30:03.880
been the best tactic for the rest of the interview so maintaining his composure calling it out for what
00:30:09.600
it was a dirty smear tactic straight away and then actually defending uh his his parents and their
00:30:15.980
honor because they weren't there to defend themselves uh i think was a good tactic because
00:30:20.740
it comes across classy it comes across much classier i can understand wanting to uh get angry about it
00:30:27.380
but that might have made nick seem irrational and nick when he's doing these interviews does not want
00:30:33.080
to come across irrational and he wants to explain himself well that's a random name here's me trying
00:30:38.180
to sleep with lenny kravitz stop harry don't do it ah walter white screaming i assume in the crawlspace
00:30:43.960
episode yeah i i know that i'm just making clip bait that's fine that's fine you can clip me all you
00:30:50.260
want use whatever clips you want of me to make me say whatever i want because frankly i can't stop you
00:30:57.040
anyway so you know there's no point in screeching about it
00:31:00.920
all right so dying now no it's okay are you gonna stay with us for the second i died i died of cringe
00:31:09.560
internally doing that segment so that's fine you did so well all right then thank you thank you luca
00:31:14.620
you're doing great too i got your back it's not started yet i know but you're doing great oh thanks
00:31:19.900
man okay so we're going to talk about um the australian government because they've basically just banned
00:31:25.060
a whole slew of apps and social media platforms for under 16s uh many of them were able to uh have
00:31:32.800
access to these apps at 13 and the new law has basically pushed that so now anyone up to 16 cannot
00:31:38.940
have access to facebook youtube um tiktok all the all these sorts of apps will go into it um but i would
00:31:47.340
like to start by talking about my childhood because you see i feel um quite grateful in many ways that
00:31:56.060
i was born not right at the end of 96 and i was probably the last generation of western school child
00:32:02.900
to just really go i thought i was i thought there was a more of a gap between our ages than that i didn't
00:32:08.140
realize that you were only a few months younger than me yes and just the baby face you just yeah you
00:32:13.860
it's the baby face and your general sunny cheery demeanor i thought you were i thought you were
00:32:19.340
younger than you are oh well all right don't know how to do that information but well clearly you've
00:32:25.780
not become as jaded and cynical as some no i i just ignore them that's good that's good um but all this
00:32:31.820
to say you know and it was a wonderful school experience actually and i can't really begin to
00:32:38.520
well i i have um you know obviously younger people that i know who go to school now and it
00:32:43.500
the social media stuff does add a lot of stress to their lives because all of a sudden you're not
00:32:48.440
just competing with the other girls at school or the other guys in terms of who's the most talented
00:32:53.820
who's the coolest who's the one who's but you're also looking at the array of people on social media
00:32:59.260
across the world as well and when you're very very young of course you can have very low self-esteem
00:33:05.920
and so there are notable problems with social media uh in this modern age and obviously it sounds
00:33:14.820
cliche but life was simpler uh before it all came along yeah you're part of the uh the ultra rare
00:33:21.420
zillennial generation i am like me yeah it is it is it is a real word aa says the zennials are the
00:33:28.740
greatest generation to any ever live he's wrong it's the zillennials those who were born around 95
00:33:35.140
through to 97 where the younger part of their childhoods they were free from the internet
00:33:40.020
and social media and then around their mid-teens the internet begins to become a much more important
00:33:45.300
thing sounds like it was the same for you building tree houses playing video games building tree houses
00:33:50.800
we and bows and arrows we had a great time oh fair play my child sounds bougie mate as a 2001 person
00:33:57.780
yeah yeah i feel like it's the the mid 2010s where a lot of people just start getting social media
00:34:03.440
addictions then after that it just worsened although i will say when i was like 11 12 i
00:34:08.260
started watching a lot of uh stuff on youtube primarily nostalgia critic oh yeah angry video
00:34:14.160
game nerd nostalgia critic some pewdiepie internet gold would it have been pewdiepie no it wouldn't
00:34:19.720
it wouldn't have been pewdiepie pewdiepie would have been when i was like maybe 15 16 years old
00:34:23.960
but yeah there was some golden age stuff right here um and so how was what was the thing that got all
00:34:30.040
of this moving in the first place that led the australian government to do this well instagram
00:34:33.860
reels well if we talk about radicalizing instagram reels hyperboi the australian government proved
00:34:39.320
with how draconian it got during lockdowns that they do not care about the mental well-being of
00:34:43.920
children this is absolutely true yes and we'll we'll definitely yeah i'm sorry i don't want to
00:34:47.660
preempt you too that's all right no it's okay um but from this guardian article it says in early
00:34:52.220
2024 the south australian premier's wife uh put down the book she had been reading it was jonathan
00:34:59.520
heights the anxious generation and uh peter melina melinoscus uh later recounted uh she said that
00:35:08.840
she said to me you better bloody well do something about this and then we got to work so his wife read
00:35:14.980
the book uh thought well we better do something about that hadn't we dear and from there these pieces
00:35:21.820
got got moving now obviously um there was a whole question of whether or not this was going to be
00:35:28.300
implemented state by state but they decided to have a general federal piece of legislation across the
00:35:35.960
board so it affects all australians equally and they can all share out on the media platforms
00:35:41.440
and if i just go to jonathan height here as well you can see him being very very happy that this has
00:35:48.980
taken place he praises uh the premier of south australia and the current prime minister as well
00:35:54.520
who took it nationally says the key as both men have emphasized is that we all want kids to have fun
00:36:01.000
exciting childhoods doing things with friends in the real world that's a childhood we older people
00:36:06.640
remember fondly that's a childhood that gen z have seen only in movies and they long for i urge
00:36:12.580
australian parents to make this transition one that their kids will look back on fondly as a summer
00:36:18.720
when their lives opened up the summer when they were given more freedom and they began to have
00:36:24.540
more unsupervised fun and adventure together uh they began to have childhoods worth remembering
00:36:30.460
so thank you australia i mean personally i think what might like materially improve the lives of
00:36:36.260
australian children as they grow up is if you stop trying to replace them well i think that would
00:36:40.920
matter too first and foremost more than anything else so again i find it very hard to take these um
00:36:46.860
these government policies seriously without a heavy dose of cynicism and i actually really like
00:36:52.160
some of jonathan height's work i've not read the anxious anxious generation i'm sure that he wrote it
00:36:58.560
with the best of intentions but this is something i actually discussed about with um with josh neal in
00:37:04.740
an interview about his book intolerant interpretations a few weeks ago where he actually critiqued part of
00:37:10.780
jonathan height's work that was produced in the in the righteous mind uh in a way that i had i hadn't seen
00:37:15.800
before it's not often that you see many critiques of jonathan height's work uh especially that
00:37:20.960
particular book but one of the ways that jonathan height's work can be used is it can be co-opted by
00:37:28.760
governments for the sake of this kind of very very sweeping legislation and they can use it for the sake
00:37:36.100
of saying that they're trying to target political division that they're trying to prevent uh anxiety
00:37:41.860
and difficulty in raising uh in raising children and screen addiction i do genuinely think that
00:37:48.280
screen addiction is a big big problem i'm not saying that this sort of stuff doesn't cause huge
00:37:53.580
problems for young people it absolutely does but it can be used for these modern multicultural
00:37:59.940
governments for social engineering purposes absolutely what this actually does for young people
00:38:06.580
who now more than ever through social media have access to a wide range of dissident voices and
00:38:13.300
they're able to get their news and understanding from the of the world from a wide variety of places
00:38:19.900
outside of the mainstream from alternative media it's closing those avenues off for them to make sure
00:38:26.560
that the only idea of the world that these kids are going to get is going to be coming from the schools
00:38:31.540
and from the mainstream and the government media that's what this is actually doing that's what
00:38:36.780
this would actually be for from what i can see well all of the slides here on in are just going to
00:38:42.220
vindicate your entire position thank you so you always portray it as like a convenience like with
00:38:47.260
digital idea oh we're doing this um so things will be more convenient we're doing this because we
00:38:51.940
generally care about your children when it's it's all about government control yeah but what's more as
00:38:57.240
well it's uh it's quite pernicious because it simultaneously preys on a genuine concern
00:39:02.880
uh but does it for the wrong reason and i'll just read you can see here there was a petition in australia
00:39:08.000
signed by over 50 000 people and uh one one parent said it quickly overtook all her my daughter's spare
00:39:15.560
time she was messaging in bed calling late uh making calls till midnight and this was when she was in
00:39:22.140
primary school and someone else said it's horrifying and we need additional safeguards to protect our
00:39:27.780
kids and talk about raising the age and there were all the um testimonies and parents speaking as well
00:39:33.880
on this petition who were obviously talking about cyberbullying and online and self-harm and that being
00:39:39.940
encouraged i mean cyberbullying has been going on for years i remember getting the cyberbullying
00:39:45.040
videotape played to us in school when i was growing up yeah of course just like an average xbox live
00:39:50.640
experience but like i'm confused because it's the parents that give their children the phone this is
00:39:55.020
exactly what i was about to say yes well before before we go straight into that it's only the
00:40:00.160
parents responsibility and they do hold a huge amount of the responsibility to responsibly limit
00:40:05.520
screen time for their children and to put the same put the restrictions that they want onto their
00:40:11.460
children's uh phones because they do have the ability to do that but their one thing that i have
00:40:17.600
always heard from parents when i've brought it up with them is that there is a huge amount of pressure
00:40:22.540
from peers of the students that unless all of the parents get together and agree not to do this and
00:40:30.220
to restrict all of the children's phone access even just during school hours for instance then if you
00:40:36.880
are the one kid on the playground if you are the one kid in class who doesn't have a phone who doesn't
00:40:41.240
have an ipad who doesn't have access to all of these social media it does other you yeah and it
00:40:46.680
isolates and separates you out now how much you want to say that that should be taken into account
00:40:53.040
with all of this and whether parents should just decide well i'm willing to make that decision for
00:40:58.740
my kids anyway that's one thing but it does introduce some difficulty with this undoubtedly and
00:41:04.900
what's more as well it also you know it comes back to that whole uh the libertarian argument of
00:41:10.340
well does the government really have well i mean for example if i was you know leading a government
00:41:14.640
in the united kingdom i would have no moral scruples about just banning only fans for example so i'm not
00:41:21.000
in principle averse to government intervention on what uh you know adult you know children or even
00:41:27.720
adults can just see online right i think there are certain moral standards of we just shouldn't allow
00:41:33.260
a certain level of degeneracy on these platforms there are degenerating vices yes that people can have
00:41:39.780
uh far far far far too much access to and i mean with something like only fans not only the
00:41:45.440
proliferation of pornography in general across society is something wholly unheard of throughout
00:41:50.420
all of history but then the access for young girls coming straight out of their teens having the option
00:41:57.080
to immediately try and make easy money by whoring themselves out online that is not an option that
00:42:04.040
these girls should have easy access to because it does this is something that some people get right
00:42:08.680
about this we've got to be factual it does remove a lot of the negative consequences of actually going
00:42:15.180
out on the street because it massively separates you from the people you're interacting with so there's
00:42:20.380
less danger involved you're not going to get kidnapped by some guy if you're doing that so it's even more
00:42:25.500
encouragement for these girls who otherwise should be trying to get a job or trying to go into education
00:42:31.500
or preferably uh settling down with boyfriends and husbands and starting a family absolutely and so
00:42:39.000
as you can see there is evidence of just australian parents and you know people from the boomer
00:42:44.260
generation and unlike the um the previous segment i don't in this case say that pejoratively who
00:42:49.780
obviously have genuine concerns about the world that their children are being brought up in but of course
00:42:55.700
movements uh generally don't just win off the back of australian parents being a little bit
00:43:02.660
irked about something and worried about something generally these sorts of things require elite
00:43:07.660
backing and that's where we get to rupert murdoch
00:43:12.000
australia is launching a new national campaign aimed at protecting young australians from the dangers of
00:43:18.280
social media the let them be kids campaign is calling on the federal government to increase the age
00:43:23.700
children can access social media platforms to 16 child advocates and health professionals are
00:43:28.980
supporting the push psychologists believe excessive social media usage is worsening the youth
00:43:33.940
mental health crisis suicide and self-harm rates in people aged under 19 have increased since children
00:43:39.620
began using social media experts claim it's also responsible for an increase in eating disorders
00:43:45.700
loneliness sleep deprivation as well as a reduction in social skills
00:43:50.400
and so the large push and there has been a tremendous amount of lobbying
00:43:56.860
over this past year and a half by rupert murdoch and news corp as you can see this has been brought out
00:44:02.280
on sky news australia which is of course his so this is rupert murdoch trying to re-monopolize
00:44:07.300
the uh the information economy yes so you see what happened was uh back in 2021 there was a law passed in
00:44:15.380
in the australian government called the news media bargaining code and basically this law basically
00:44:21.920
meant that australian big tech platforms had to pay local newspapers and local news organizations
00:44:29.220
to obviously have those stories on the platform and have the news on the platform so essentially this
00:44:36.180
created a strange relationship where you were paying big tech were paying their rivals the legacy media
00:44:43.900
it was it was a it was government propping up yes of an old system that was becoming outdated
00:44:52.820
oh wow and couldn't exist in the modern age and so the government have intervened with this and
00:44:57.780
obviously news corp being australia's largest uh newspaper publisher obviously decided that the
00:45:05.560
perfect moment to strike back on all of this was when meta won't renew its commercial deals
00:45:12.900
with australian news media which march of last year right and so and that perfectly coincides if you
00:45:19.560
look at the date on this particular video the this basically came out in may of last year so this all
00:45:25.560
got moving very very quickly and it was very naked to see what the intentions was behind it it's also
00:45:32.160
worth speculating on as well that um uh rupert murdoch uh through fox corp in uh the united states
00:45:40.980
may well be taking some shares or having some investment in tiktok and obviously it's acquisition
00:45:46.800
from the chinese but that is the u.s government handed over to oracle and larry ellison yes to manage
00:45:52.800
their and that whole cabal of algorithm on villains yeah um but he really does look like a bond villain
00:45:59.120
you're right yeah um and so we're but we're at the point where actually so but um
00:46:04.980
murdoch will only have investment in the u.s side of it so if tiktok gets banned for under 16 year olds
00:46:13.380
in australia that doesn't actually affect him in any way it perfectly protects him whilst also
00:46:19.960
dealing a counter blow to um to the uh new you know digital corporations and so you can see here this
00:46:30.580
and i i just pulled this up because it was just such a remarkable headline which is legal threat
00:46:35.400
as social media given final doom scrolling in australia you get your final doom scroll uh if
00:46:43.360
you're 15 before this new law comes in it's all very woman dad can keep doom scrolling all they want
00:46:50.380
yeah absolutely but this really is also what if you just what if you just lie like what are the
00:46:57.760
actual what are the actual provisions i'm gonna put a pin on that okay we're coming to it now
00:47:02.280
because i remember youtube asking me for age verification when uh when it was like oh you've
00:47:07.340
got to be 18 or older to watch uh pewdiepie play amnesia the dark descent yeah and i was like oh good
00:47:13.340
job i'm 34 years old doing the four lions like that was a joke youtube i would never ever do anything
00:47:21.780
like that uh and so facebook instagram threads tiktok snapchat twitch kick x youtube and reddit
00:47:30.280
are among those to be banned well reddit it's not all bad yes yeah well it's it's not all doom and gloom
00:47:36.660
you see um with fines of almost 50 million dollars uh for failing to take action to remove under 16s from
00:47:45.420
their platforms so again the m the uh power and is on the media platforms to actually police their own
00:47:54.860
um you know platforms and basically search for uh under 16s but the problem is this is really going
00:48:03.060
to struggle to work now we'll just listen to the prime minister say what he has to say about all this
00:48:09.360
this is the day when australian families are taking back power from these big tech companies
00:48:17.320
and they're asserting the right of kids to be kids and for parents to have greater peace of mind
00:48:25.640
now i will just say to come back to your point harry these two things are in contradiction we want to
00:48:32.800
bring back freedom and you know a sense of childhood for kids while simultaneously always advocating
00:48:39.000
for policies that have only ever resulted in the material degradation of their towns and cities and
00:48:45.720
their alienation within their own communities and so it's like yeah okay well for the boomers that
00:48:51.500
would have been all great go out into the streets i hope you don't come back until 11 you're perfectly
00:48:56.100
safe out there go and have a good time you couldn't do that these days there's no way things have changed
00:49:01.560
far too much perhaps the australian government is trying to find a sneaky backdoor way of forcing the
00:49:07.700
children into forming uh uh like a youth ethnic gangs so that they can have like 13 14 15 year olds
00:49:16.200
warring on the streets along racial divisions that's what they want australian government provokes
00:49:22.160
race war among 12 year olds question mark and to come come back to what you come back to what you
00:49:28.760
were saying about the ideological lines of it as well of course there are other than of course
00:49:33.880
murdoch's business reasons uh for doing wait a second i can read the for doing this right there
00:49:39.920
is also as you say the ideological reasons which is that most of the uh the dissident politics are
00:49:46.020
sort of you know like uh newer truth of the zoomer generation and where they're getting their news
00:49:51.680
i mean let's not forget as well one of the chief reasons that uh the united states government
00:49:56.700
obviously decided to take uh tick tock off of china was because of all the pro-palestinian stuff
00:50:03.220
on there and they saw that as a threat to geopolitical interest with israel and the middle east right this
00:50:08.520
is all very clear to us it's it's all on the public record yeah well they were very clear that that's
00:50:13.960
what it was about yeah absolutely it wasn't about protecting children from getting tick tock brain
00:50:19.220
right no no it's it's not about how long your child is spending on their phone um it's about
00:50:26.300
what they're seeing what they're what they're looking at for those two hours on their phone
00:50:30.640
which is exactly why blue sky is exempt from this ban well when they you know when i talk to sumers
00:50:36.740
younger than me um who are to the right and i ask them how did you get into politics they always say
00:50:41.760
to me oh um i don't read or watch any um youtubers or read any books um i just watch instagram reels
00:50:47.740
so it does have an effect yeah it makes sense why they're trying to tell you what there's some
00:50:52.920
schizo brain rot edits are radicalizing the youth it is true what what they've done and especially you
00:50:58.840
can tell because they're allowing blue sky in australia the big problem is going to be that
00:51:02.640
they're going to see some edit of joel davis who's just been unfairly arrested and put in prison
00:51:08.160
uh or what's his name thomas sewell um doing something and then the kids are going to go
00:51:15.220
wow that's really cool i should get involved in right-wing politics you're right they are
00:51:19.820
replacing us i should get involved in this this guy's making some good points they are deathly
00:51:24.980
afraid of that and so this is their countermeasure yeah absolutely although as you can see again it's
00:51:30.700
not all doom and gloom they will still have access to lego play this code needs to be off that list
00:51:35.860
yeah it absolutely needs to be off that list if we for the sake of consistency yeah for the sake of
00:51:41.320
consistency you can't get radicalized on twitter or instagram reels but you can get groomed into
00:51:48.160
truning out on discord yeah yeah well seriously it's just full of obvious ideological um hypocritical
00:51:58.280
you know points in it and so we have world watches as one million social media accounts go dark
00:52:06.200
it's just armageddon in australia um and then we get to my strongest twitter soldiers have gone
00:52:13.020
because they were all just like 14 year old australian boys no right but then exactly as we
00:52:19.600
saw when the uh the online safety act came in you know here in the united kingdom as well all you see
00:52:25.280
is an uptick in vpns all you see you know and and there are some truly funny stories dog photos vpns fake
00:52:32.880
ids how australian teens are beating the social media ban day one ladies and gentlemen day one
00:52:40.160
yeah i was going to ask how they're actually enforcing it are they having to do some kind of
00:52:43.680
facial recognition age thing well what if you just what if your parents are actually happy with you
00:52:49.380
doom scrolling because you have the mental fortitude to be able to manage and deal with it
00:52:53.640
because some kids are intelligent and mature enough to be able to handle it without just turning them into
00:52:59.160
a social spurg and so your dad just sets you up an account under his email address right and then
00:53:06.280
just like does the facial thing for you do you have to do the facial recognition every single time or is
00:53:11.980
it a one-time thing says 13 year old isabel told the bbc that it took her less than five minutes to
00:53:19.120
bypass the ban a snapchat notification warned she would be removed unless she could prove that she was
00:53:24.840
over 16 but she said she used a photo of her mother uh to trick the the app's age checks you can just
00:53:31.900
have a photo of your mom oh my god uh some have found inventive ways to bypass the bypass the
00:53:38.120
verification process a user reportedly uploaded a photo of a golden retriever to gain access remember
00:53:45.560
guys ai is the future it's not a bubble invest now uh experts also warn that teens can exploit other
00:53:52.900
loopholes i'm not giving advice uh such as virtual uh such as vpns fake ids and it said that even some
00:54:00.440
of them would literally they were able to trick the verification process like at the age of 12 or 13
00:54:07.300
simply by putting fake eyelashes and a bit of makeup on right 12 year olds confirmed smarter than the
00:54:14.240
australian government what an industrious generation we have on our hands ladies and gentlemen uh and so
00:54:20.720
obviously but the obvious question to all of this is okay well this is australia for the foreseeable
00:54:26.360
future so you know how long until the rest of the west rolls all of this out as well now i mean liz has
00:54:34.220
already mentioned digital ids within the uk yes so that that's going to be the measures for doing it
00:54:39.880
over here yes and i can't help but feel like the like the digital ids are going to be a bit uh more
00:54:46.140
thorough because the australian government frankly seem to have half-arsed this one that they have
00:54:50.900
really half-arsed this one seems to be just sort of the procedure of all establishments across the
00:54:56.840
west few too many vb long necks yeah anyway so uh if you are in uh australia dear friends take heart
00:55:04.800
uh i'm sure it seems like there are many ways to avoid all of this and what's more as well even
00:55:10.980
though i do share the concerns of many parents about the toxic and corrosive effect of social
00:55:17.480
media on their children this is not being done for the reasons that you want it to be done for
00:55:23.540
uh ultimately and so i would just um i would just personally you know advocate for taking this into
00:55:30.800
your own hands if you don't like your child spending all this amount of time on their phone
00:55:34.900
don't let them have the phone if you don't like what they're seeing you need to be personally in
00:55:39.360
charge of that this is not me just being ideologically libertarian i'm just simply
00:55:44.140
looking at this as the safest way for you to look after your child and make sure that they get the best
00:55:50.580
uh upbringing that you as a parent can provide for them yeah i mean ultimately i think what the choice
00:55:56.260
is is do you take those decisions and that responsibility into your own hands or do you leave
00:56:02.880
it to the government and with this government in charge that has the track record that it does
00:56:08.180
in australia do you want them to have that decision do you want them to have that responsibility
00:56:15.480
i personally wouldn't yeah uh we've got um yoda uh wartooth who says uh 94 uh american zillennial here
00:56:25.480
i completely agree we are best we have uh that's a random name i agree that all zillennials are indeed
00:56:31.240
superior because we're the last generation to experience the golden age also i never watch much of
00:56:37.920
pewdiepie until a certain bridge i was og pewds i'd i'd already been over pewdiepie by the time
00:56:46.220
the bridge incident happened like i said i joined with the amnesia the dark descent playthrough and
00:56:51.120
then you know i jumped onto like i was the guy with all of these kit with all of these people like
00:56:55.980
markiplier when five nights at freddy's those playthroughs were first coming out yeah i jumped onto
00:57:00.740
every single one of them and then by 20 then by 2016 it was h3 in vape nation filthy frank uh i never
00:57:08.540
watched filthy frank apart from the h3 collabs with him yeah and then i went back later and watched some
00:57:14.660
of the uh ian i dubs collabs with uh max mofo and filthy frank those those were the golden age
00:57:21.300
i feel like leafy is here was my original red pill i never watched him back in the day
00:57:25.460
i was like 14. lieutenant kerbus nofuckers pyrocynical that was has he tuned out now yeah but he was funny
00:57:31.980
back in the day but he was he was funny but extremely cringe yeah he's very cringe and he made his
00:57:37.580
videos are just too long same with idubs idubs was like original red pill for so many sumas with
00:57:42.660
his like edgy humor and now he's gone um i'll just read sorry to interrupt uh from that's a random name
00:57:48.660
he says once again we must all lose uh more of our freedom because the lowest common denominators
00:57:53.580
are hurting themselves once again so many problems will be fixed if we accepted that we're not all equal
00:58:00.020
um all right pages piers morgan uncensored equals censorship incoming so this means piers morgan uncooked
00:58:06.380
equals cooked and that's a random name is just like sent me on a blast from the past here i was a
00:58:11.180
total biscuit enjoyer then went to filthy frank and sargon i completely forgot about total biscuit
00:58:16.260
i used to watch loads of total biscuit back in the day did he die i have a feeling that he died
00:58:22.640
who is he yeah he died of cancer rip total biscuit what an og legend all right elizabeth
00:58:30.740
yeah i have a mouse i i was gonna ask for that that would be great they were so um the pics you
00:58:37.460
know this this fear um race within scotland who led victories against roman legions painting them
00:58:44.340
painting themselves blue has beautiful um artifacts they've left behind and has merged into the scottish
00:58:51.700
modern population i think it's 10 of scots can claim ancestry from the pics particularly in
00:58:57.460
the aberdeenshire um region um or apparently actually black um according to a new children's
00:59:04.400
book which portrays them as just that i knew it um ancestral populations apparently they don't even
00:59:11.020
look like they've not got like the black tight curly hair it looks like they've got very european yeah
00:59:18.900
well no the one on the left looks like an like an american indian like that's that's really weird
00:59:25.320
yeah exactly and apparently they wanted to portray and show scott that scotland has always been
00:59:31.980
multi multicultural and diverse which is why there's like indian looking people in the drawings
00:59:38.080
native american people and and yeah it's why they've not left it to one specific ethnicity it has to be
00:59:43.880
all of them yeah exactly and um so it's a book called carving the stone a storyteller's guide to the
00:59:50.000
pics and it's funded by taxpayer the taxpayer funded societies of antiquities of scotland and it's
00:59:56.720
intended to provide um well the people who've published it intend to provide free copies of the
01:00:02.300
book in schools and libraries so it's it's deliberately targeted towards children um
01:00:08.780
and they also they also include like a bunch of queer characters as well and marginalized groups
01:00:16.420
and disabled people um to show how diverse the pic society the pics were lgbt champions so so is that
01:00:24.940
10 percent of picked why so many scots are so gay yeah is that what the skirts are about
01:00:30.580
well yeah maybe actually it's all coming together it's not all it's not all wrong it's because you
01:00:37.840
know when you're climbing mountains all the time you know trousers kind of get in the way it starts to
01:00:41.800
you know like ride up a little bit put to the next slide how do i get to the next oh if you just
01:00:47.800
press yeah that button uh this i can just click oh there you go okay so here's that's an actual pic
01:00:54.880
okay um so the pics come from um the latin word painted so it means painted people um and this is
01:01:02.600
what confuses me about the interpretation about the pics being black if if you were black how do you
01:01:07.080
paint yourself with i mean it wouldn't really show it doesn't stand out it wouldn't stand out exactly
01:01:13.560
um so they're an indigenous group to eastern and north of scotland and over time they they merged with
01:01:20.560
the other celtic tribes which is why they completely disappeared um because they would have
01:01:25.280
merged with other existing groups um people like jeffrey of monomouth claim that they descend from
01:01:33.720
eastern europe and other people say they were an indigenous population that was sided in britain
01:01:39.240
before the britons and we don't really know too much about their origin um but i've got an actual
01:01:45.560
picture of a pic if you click to the next slide that's actually apparently more is this is actually
01:01:52.200
what they looked like apparently they are the same yeah one one to one really but this is i think lotus
01:01:58.840
seat has covered this topic already but this is this african tribe that said they their ancestors
01:02:04.360
um pick tribe surely they've had been kicked out from scotland 400 years ago and they're
01:02:10.920
they're reclaiming as recent as 400 years ago apparently like oliver cromwell takes over he's not nice to
01:02:19.000
the irish but he's got even more of a bone to pick with those exactly apparently they were native black
01:02:25.320
jacobites and then um which confuses me alongside the black hebrew israelites surely yeah because
01:02:35.160
my ancestors were jacobites and mcdouglas right that died on clodden field um when bonnie prince
01:02:40.760
charlie um sailed away and i i don't think they ever saw a black person in their life no really
01:02:47.400
confused where this claim of black jacobites has has come from i don't know if the people making these
01:02:53.480
claims have ever met a celt but even even as a pasty englishman right i look swarthy next to some
01:03:01.720
celts they can be very very pale people if you're familiar with wwe just imagine an entire nation of
01:03:10.600
seamuses right that's what the celts are well i feel like it's that you see that meme on the white all
01:03:16.920
the time the irish are black i feel like that's been taken so far that because these people are some of
01:03:22.200
them african american african americans started taking it seriously oh so when you call celts
01:03:26.520
black they're like oh well we we must have ancestry there we're gonna come down and live live in the
01:03:31.240
woods so african americans are descended from west african tribes like you can actually trace presumably
01:03:39.480
through records and through genetic ancestry where these people would have been coming from you could
01:03:45.000
do like uh y dna haplogroup tests and you could do mt dna haplogroup stuff and it's the same thing with
01:03:52.440
the picts when you say we're unsure of their origins i'd be interested to see if there's been any
01:03:56.840
obviously i don't know about the archaeological stuff but if there's been any wide uh scale
01:04:01.320
genetic testing done to them to try and get a better idea of where their haplogroups originate from
01:04:07.880
are they are they all like r1b i'm not too sure about the genetic testing i i need to research more
01:04:13.000
into genetic testing but they're definitely definitely descended from europeans and not
01:04:17.720
other groups outside of survive the jive probably yeah if he was here i'm sure he could tell you all
01:04:22.680
about it but the point of this photo is when you tell lies that you know the picks are black the
01:04:28.360
anglo-saxons are black normans are black vikings are black and and the britons are black then people
01:04:34.200
start to actually believe it and you get people like these people who who will say my ancestry belongs
01:04:40.120
here and there's a another example if i'm sorry i'm sorry just like just on a logical basis like if
01:04:46.440
everybody if if everybody was black like where do white people come from and also what was so
01:04:55.640
special about the wind rush yeah as as as recent as 400 years ago everybody that we descend from was
01:05:01.720
black where did what like where did this what happened well i guess we don't have to pay reparations
01:05:06.600
that no well i mean all one kin good news everyone no apparently they need like and we all get m-word
01:05:13.160
passes somebody needs to pay us reparations then i don't know who exactly but somebody you're irish but
01:05:20.040
i'm not paying you any reparations my family died in the potato famine oh my potato famine oh my family
01:05:26.600
died in the potato famine get over it i'm over it okay great and find more with my my my british
01:05:35.720
genetics rather than my irish but no then there's this other example which is stonehenge was built by
01:05:41.640
black britain's children's history book claims and there's this book called brilliant black um british
01:05:47.560
history published by bloomsbury and it's again funded by the taxpayer um on the taxpayer organization called
01:05:55.160
the um the book of trust and it won the children's non-fiction book of the year at the british book
01:06:01.560
awards you see how these are all deliberately targeted towards children yes like completely false
01:06:07.880
history completely yeah revising our past which is based on the well you can't so many you can't give
01:06:14.440
the book to the older generations because they literally remember a time when none of these people
01:06:19.240
yeah i never i know it would be like i never saw an afghan yeah is that the raf yeah yeah yeah so
01:06:25.320
actually we actually have records about this you could actually just check how many there were what
01:06:33.560
they were doing what their accomplishments were um and they'll try and make you believe oh no it's all
01:06:39.960
just kept off of the records for some nefarious reason but if you were all so widespread already if we
01:06:46.520
we were all so multicultural how did we have such of an upper hand to keep so many people off of the
01:06:52.360
records and continue to oppression it's a completely nonsensical narrative it's lies i mean in 1952 britain
01:07:01.000
the minorities made up less than one percent of the population i think it was 0.01 that's how small
01:07:07.640
it was yeah um so to i mean this book claims that every single british person comes from a migrant
01:07:12.920
and the very first britain's were black king gulfa was black ambrosius was black forticon was black
01:07:31.320
clen when the last was black um i mean at the very least even with cheddar man they're going back
01:07:39.720
we're gonna talk about him in a minute well but at the very least even with cheddar man they're going
01:07:44.920
back 10 000 years yeah and that would be enough time for traits to develop outside of for one even
01:07:52.120
with cheddar man when they're saying that that he's dark they're not actually saying that he has
01:07:57.240
african ancestry or wasn't african they're just saying that he had darker skin and this is still
01:08:04.680
probably inaccurate but look at cheddar man right he has blue eyes have you met any non-europeans
01:08:12.520
right a sub-saharan african that has blue eyes no outside of um black americans who have a hefty
01:08:19.960
admixture of european in them anyway it is all i do always find it fascinating and unique sometimes
01:08:25.400
when you see black americans where they do have like piercing blue eyes it's a very unique sight
01:08:30.840
but the very fact that it's unique is testimony to how rare it is yes and survive the jives talked
01:08:36.920
about this but cheddar man is a western hunter and gatherer and only europeans are related to western
01:08:43.320
hunter gatherers no other ways outside of europe has any western hunter gatherer dna so this claim that
01:08:50.040
cheddar man is a sub-saharan african is is completely false um just because he had well in this in
01:08:56.600
in in this depiction a dark complexion well there were there were also there was the discovery of
01:09:01.560
one of his direct ancestors direct descendants uh living near the area of cheddar gorge where the
01:09:08.760
skeleton and uh was found uh who they showed pictures of and in turn it was kind of weird
01:09:14.600
in his facial features obviously he was white his facial features were remarkably similar to
01:09:21.320
the reconstruction that they put together which goes to show how long we as a people
01:09:26.600
today how long our roots go back to in in this country but if you go back to the last slide
01:09:32.040
sure um there's other funny things it claims like um that stonehenge was built by by uh black people
01:09:39.160
apparently even though if you go if you go back to the mythology it's giants and even then it's it's
01:09:44.920
merlin in in account by dreffy of monomoth that brings it from northern ireland to wiltshire
01:09:50.520
um as a way to celebrate ambrosius's um victories over the anglo-saxons i would believe that merlin with
01:09:57.000
the help of giants built stonehenge more than i would believe that it was yeah sub-saharans melin
01:10:03.240
was like apparently seems more and the weird thing is to me none of anything that we're saying is an
01:10:10.680
insult to other peoples across the world is literally saying we have a different history to you
01:10:16.760
that's not because we are we are a different people to you it's actually much more politically
01:10:23.320
and morally loaded to try to insert yourself into somebody else's history where you are not
01:10:29.560
and the fact that again that this is being taxpayer funded um is is one of the most evil things about
01:10:35.960
it because we i've gone over recently how much effing tax we pay in this country and how much we are
01:10:42.840
just used as tax slaves for the establishment so that they can try to erase us from our own history
01:10:49.720
yeah but the book also states that it's claims that that the britons are black comes from a roman
01:10:55.880
historian saying that the britons within rails had dark skinned and curly hats so they look like
01:11:01.960
war egg nationalists because they were dark britons um and loads of account well if you go back to our
01:11:07.400
founding myths they say were descended from brutus of troy who bought the trojans over here and it's
01:11:12.200
whenever you believe that or not that was one of the myths that all ancestors told themselves
01:11:17.160
and also in any of us he just he talks about the fact that um the irish come from the lost tribe
01:11:23.720
of moses he actually says writes this in his book um and this is true at least it goes back to this
01:11:29.160
yeah i think explains a lot that's the seventh century that's why israel and ireland have such a
01:11:33.720
thing going on right now it's really ancient tribal rivalry that's why when you look at some irish
01:11:38.440
people they they have like they they kind of have like jewish features um they've got the hebrew like
01:11:44.280
the nose like like my um my grandfather does um so yeah i i can claim ancestry from moses i guess
01:11:50.920
if you believe that i do believe that but um the the tribe of moses went to spain for a couple of
01:11:58.360
hundred years mixed with the spanish and then came to ireland i'm pretty sure so it may explain why
01:12:04.040
um the irish have have dark features like brown eyes and so on um but yeah diversity built britain
01:12:10.600
everyone knows this image it's very famous image um and this like historical revisionism has basically
01:12:18.280
become part of the elite's message that um your history was not by built by your ancestors but built
01:12:25.000
by immigrants and there's no basis to this apart from the elite saying oh well wayaways um and canals and
01:12:31.160
so on were built by irish navvies therefore your um immigration built britain but even part and then
01:12:38.680
even then like the irish are an indigenous population to the british isles i mean for a couple of hundred
01:12:44.200
years ireland was a part of the united kingdom and particularly when the irish navvies came over
01:12:50.200
but the reason you see all of this historical revisionism aimed at children and aimed at the public
01:12:55.800
like in this coin is because the elite wants the establishment wants to normalize people
01:13:02.760
to uh to the demographic changes that are happening today and tell them that it's always been this way
01:13:08.200
yeah that um changes in your neighborhood um violence in the streets um all the consequences
01:13:16.840
brought by immigration it's always been like this it's completely fine britain was built on this to
01:13:21.320
begin with so you'll have to get used to it well everyone who's complicit in this from rishi sunak
01:13:27.640
holding up the coin to the people in the bbc who write the scripts to the people who cast them to
01:13:32.760
the people who act in them they're all guilty of just stealing our our history from us yeah right
01:13:38.040
that is just total cultural theft yeah and vandalism as a justification for saying that this
01:13:44.280
isn't our country you were never entitled to it yeah yeah yeah it's and the thing is as well i
01:13:49.720
might even use a particular g word which i'm not going to say because it'll probably get flagged on
01:13:53.800
youtube yes um but you know for me it would be inconceivable to go to a foreign country and just
01:14:02.120
pretend that i was somehow a part of it yeah that i was a larger part of their national story like
01:14:10.280
it would just be i don't mean to be all british about it but it'd just be bad manners wouldn't
01:14:14.680
yeah like the africans in the scottish woods right yeah well i mean it speaks to some obviously
01:14:19.560
insecurity of identity though doesn't it they're just so insecure that they feel that the only
01:14:24.120
thing they can do is um steal from the achievements and um legacy of and other people i mean also
01:14:31.320
frankly to be honest i don't really see much value in stealing anybody else's history could you imagine
01:14:37.000
if i went to uh to mexico and central america and just declared that i'm an aztec now i we were the
01:14:44.280
original aztecs actually i mean but at that point what kind of like legacy am i laying claim to i i
01:14:51.240
asked my ancestors were the ones who brutally uh committed ritual blood murders against children
01:14:57.240
no that's not what i want i mean when you look at the aztecs original god um i forgot his name but
01:15:02.360
there's a statue of him where he's got this european beard and european features um you could say they can
01:15:08.280
they can trace their ancestry back to the atlanteans so you could you could make that claim and then
01:15:13.160
um but that's going really esoteric i love that you like you like preface it all by saying like well
01:15:18.040
you could say you could say this but do you say um but what wishy sunak's doing here is a term that i've
01:15:27.240
coined um as fortiganism and based on king fortigan who sold out the britons for his lust over hengus's
01:15:35.720
daughter so he sold out his people for his interest for foreigners and that's what you see with the
01:15:40.920
establishment is they constantly sell us out lie to us because they're far more interested in the
01:15:47.160
foreign political stage than they are about their own people and their own kin um but they openly admit
01:15:53.000
this i mean here's a great example um of the director from from doctor who yeah he was he was the
01:15:58.760
showrunner during matt smith and peter capaldi years which progressively got worse and worse for this
01:16:04.760
kind of thing as they went on yeah he says young people watching have to know that they have a place
01:16:10.840
in the future that what that really matters you have to care profoundly about what children's shows
01:16:16.120
in particular say about um where you're going to be and but the most important quote here is
01:16:21.400
we've kind of got to tell a lie we'll we'll go back into history and there will be black people
01:16:27.880
where historically there wouldn't have been and we won't dwell on that so he's saying we have to lie
01:16:32.760
about our history to make modern minorities feel like they fit in feel like they've always belonged
01:16:38.200
here and so we we have to deliberately rewrite history i mean george orwell once about this in
01:16:44.600
like 1984 um he who controls the past controls the future and it's exactly that what a trustworthy
01:16:51.960
face this whole thing as well it's like oh we just have to lie it's like no we don't we don't even
01:16:57.400
have to accept that these people should be here steven i i don't accept that steven moffat was granted
01:17:03.080
some kind of democratic responsibility and authority over what our children should believe beyond basic
01:17:12.760
children's morality tales which is what in some of the earlier episodes of knew who he was actually okay
01:17:19.800
at i've never really watched doctor who i'm not a who fan i wish i had never got into it given the
01:17:29.320
state of it these days this is all i ever hear how people have been punished for being who fans so i was
01:17:34.760
like i'm just not getting well it's the same thing as most fans of any product recently it's the old red
01:17:40.840
letter media thing like how does it feel to watch all of your favorite franchises crashing and burning
01:17:45.400
feels great well star wars never did because it stopped at six episodes so thank god that george
01:17:53.480
lucas made the prequels and they were universally acclaimed and nobody ever did anything with the
01:17:59.000
franchise ever again it's also like you know black amber and all our shows are deliberately diversified
01:18:07.400
but when you look at the original robin hood from the 90s i haven't watched it but i'm sure you have
01:18:11.400
lucca and when diversity is included it's it actually has like a good origin story well the
01:18:17.720
point is that was just with morgan free yeah i think so he actually he's a yeah and he's a sub-saharan
01:18:23.880
who kevin costner met on crusades yeah in the holland so it actually makes sense right he's not
01:18:32.360
ethnic he wasn't born in england he came back to england with the robin hood character so it makes
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sense why it's it's it's tastefully done i've never seen that robin hood does he still speak in
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an american accent in it i've not watched it for a long time i can't that would be funny if he was
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some like ethiopian that they met in the holy land during the crusades who just happens to have a
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modern american accent i'd love that well i i love how um they just mocked dick van dyke over his cockney
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accent and mary poppins to the point that when he came to do cheaty cheaty bang bang also set in england
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and he went i'm just doing my american like they just chitty chitty bang bang is a great it's in
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my top 10 i think i watched it for the first time a few years ago and i thought it was just so
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whimsical oh it's perfect yeah it is wonderful characters all right well for the sake of time
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we've got 10 minutes let's go through the quick rumble rants and then then the video comments random
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name went to a trade school full of rich french kids who were arguing with me there had always been
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black people in europe and their football team was 100 native european i called them the end
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but this is what i mean people actually fall for these this this propaganda yeah actually believe
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it they because they want to believe it yeah because they're told to believe well i mean some people
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like the um like the black guys going and claiming picked ancestry and i mean it might just
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be that they are so culturally disconnected and they have no knowledge of it that they
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just actually fall for it i mean you can't you can't take ignorance out of the equation
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hapsification the picture of that black dude with long hair might just be pimp from uh from a uh pimp
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a perm from a blaxploitation movie he's worried about getting dirt on dirt on his gator shoes screaming
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where's my money they state the only thing i'm learning from this children's book is that i'm allowed to
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say the word i was kang i invented inventing things gibbs me i did do nothing she give orange me eat
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orange give orange hapsification you know they're going to eventually outright say britain has stolen
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land from black people and the white people stole it from them just look at the silk weaver reasonable
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black man i i love that that was his actual name reasonable black yeah well i'm sure he was a delight as
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well that book um the one the children's children's book about the black britons that one says that
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white people stole our land it literally says that in the book and they sell it in like museums um
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around england so they are making that claim already apparently this land is not ours and it actually
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belongs to sub-saharan africans well that's just an outright lie yeah so apparently third world
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immigration is the return of their their kin so i'm sure it is may i just have the mouse quickly yeah thank you
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is this a merry christmas from the no this is real
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that was horrible look at nathan's black eyes what's going on with that he's a soulless demon
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this is my sleep paralysis demon yes can we move on from sleep paralysis thank you
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i must admit that when doing my cyber historic calculations my bingo card didn't have zoomers
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pulling a handsome squidward i'm glad there is still some magic left in the world
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you know what i've seen i've seen some more clavicular clips since that segment and i've got
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to say i don't support it or advocate what he does i don't think he's a bad guy though i think he's
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quite entertaining i kind of i can't sometimes i kind of like the the shock jock approach for this
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stuff it's the i like i would never say take meth to just get yourself through the day though good god
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i can just what samson cs cooper.com.au oh he sounds just like dan
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i can hear samson in the background right go on then samson next oh hey lucitas i'm in bolton
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and right now i'm at the house of fred didna here it is right here
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and the blue plaque and here is his grave a much-loved sepal jack
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it's got quite a few tools around here and a bit of a soggy flat cap i will leave live you fred
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he's bloody well traveled as well great job cesty
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tom hartman sets out to explain how a mistake in the writing of the 14th amendment to the
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constitution of the united states which does not distinguish between natural and artificial persons
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has been twisted to grant corporations the rights of human beings
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his work cites clearly the relevant cases and actors that distorted american business law since
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the late 19th century what i was not prepared for was despite his text excoriating republicans
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whilst lauding democrats hartman lays out a compelling case for tariffs to redress trade imbalances
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from corporations unfairly seeking the lowest cost entry to market
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that does sound interesting i think i've seen that book about
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in um in a charity shop once and i should have picked it up because it sounds very interesting
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merry christmas to you yeah merry christmas to michael
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i did catch everything that you said why does glass food look so much tastier than real food
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it's christmas time and you're looking for some really good non-woke stories i can think of a place
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to go witness the star wars assembling and saving the world in the axlop saga and read final flight of
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the ranager the epic sci-fi fantasy just go to cscooper.com.au and use the promo code
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x-mas 2025 for a 15% discount no at the ultimate hype man forever
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honestly do it why not yeah yeah go for it yeah he's a good lad yeah merry christmas great
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the increased interest rate when you're on a higher salary is clearly to encourage you to pay it off
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faster when you're more able to personally i find it disgusting students are given any taxpayer money at
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all if the degree is so valuable it will pay for itself right
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he needs music yeah is is it supposed to have sounds samson
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oh okay yeah fair enough copyright cool edit though dan likes the flashman novels and he's
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trying to get into the warhammer 40k series and there is a character called see if it's kane in
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it that has like a whole book series set around and that is basically just an homage to flashmen
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with a little bit of like black adder thrown in for good measure
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so formatted the same way as flashman novels with the idea being that these are like journals that
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he left after his death that are now being like analyzed by inquisitors and basically just saying
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like oh yeah all that stuff i did it was all kind of fake
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yeah very cool um i'm pretty sure that that character is on dan's radar uh because there was a
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comment about it might have been from yourself um after we did the flashman chronicle so yeah he he
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knows i'm sure i'll get through to it and that's the end of the video comments by the
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don't play it again stop it bad samson go back to japan
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let's read a few of the uh website comments while we've got a few minutes
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go on what do i have to say about all right sophie i don't want any man to hand me a tampon
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that would be really really weird and i would be sure to avoid that man at all costs in the future
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right all right sophie again i feel like piers morgan probably should get a dna test on his
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children uh he only has one child with that wife unsurprisingly this is his second wife
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dirty belter never forget piers morgan supported the lockdown and vax mandates he is scum in the
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simplest and most absolute sense may a migrant hotel open where he lives uh yvonne on rumble as
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well sent ten dollars in saying luca when you become pm instead of banning only fans straight away
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start by banning the non-english see if it doesn't work itself out as social cohesion
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resets and community initiatives start solving things i don't think that would be enough to
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reset a kind of uh more traditional morality but i promise you i will assemble a remarkable
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cabinet and we will get to the bottom of it yeah uh and michael joe burbus why is she still
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married to him rich convenient he literally has no spine or backbone with her that last comment
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nick refuses to eat applebee's so that's why call doesn't like oh my god rivalry for the ages there
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folks all right uh from mine there uh roman observer says in the sad situation we're in
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the managerial state parenting is so delegitimized that you need to use the law to justify any form of
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moral behavior especially if you want to impose some sort of order or protection on your children
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uh kevin fox says my granddaughter is 16 but her mother takes her phone off of her at 9 30 pm every
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day to stop her doom scrolling all night to be fair my daughter still doom scrolls until she goes to
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sleep though yeah i uh i try to doom scroll a lot less these days it's uh yeah it's good for you yeah
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uh and then az desert rat says how about parents be parents uh kids who have minimal access to devices
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uh to young ages always turn out to be mentally healthier yeah absolutely and then from your
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segment elizabeth russian garbage uh human says uh ecclestone and tenant were the last good doctors
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shout out to russian garbage yeah yeah uh michael debelva says picks weren't they the ones fighting
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conan true very true conan real and then derek power master of chippies says stonehenge was built by
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step spinal tap damn it that's real that's real that is real history that's right uh oh sorry just
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quick honorable mention from world inquisitor hector x says i'd like to ask elizabeth her opinions
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no on lucas former moustache how do we keep coming back lucas should bring his moustache back he looked
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like oh no um a soldier from a saturn machine okay well that's yes he looked like a lieutenant darling
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yeah captain darling oh captain darling yes apologies yes apologies i didn't mean to under rank you thank
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you all right then ladies and gentlemen that's all we've got time for today elizabeth thank you very
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much for joining us on the panel it's been great fun and enjoy the rest of your day ladies and gentlemen