The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1325

00:00:00.800 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Loadseaters episode 1325 for Monday the 5th of January

00:00:08.240 2026. I'm your host Luca joined today by Stelios, Harry. Happy New Year. Yes happy New Year and

00:00:15.880 returning guest our very own common sense crusader Calvin Robinson good to see you again sir. Merry

00:00:21.880 Christmas. And Merry Christmas. A belated Merry Christmas to you too. It's the 12th day of Christmas

00:00:25.680 today we're still celebrating. 12th night isn't it? It is. Yeah wonderful. Excellent. Well today ladies and

00:00:30.760 gentlemen we're going to be talking all about the capture of Maduro. We're then going to be talking

00:00:36.540 about the seething and crying of the Eurocrats over in Brussels because censorship seems to have caught

00:00:44.760 up with them and then Harry is going to go to war on the halls in the final segment. Someone has to.

00:00:50.620 You make that sound almost dirty Luca so uh I'm doing some. Are you gonna get your hands dirty

00:00:56.780 with a segment? I'm doing some anti-whore action. Anti-whore action. Also a PSA also righteous

00:01:02.880 condemnation and calls for people being arrested. Based. Yes I know you're up to the task. So uh and

00:01:09.900 also just to announce as well that today was the uh first morning uh where you could tune into

00:01:16.100 breakfast with Bo. Our new breakfast show with the lotus seat is by your very own history bro

00:01:22.100 Bo Dade uh for an hour between 8 p.m sorry 8 a.m and 9 a.m uh if you're in a it's it's 8 p.m

00:01:30.420 somewhere in the world when Bo is broadcasting this. So yeah between 8 a.m and uh nine British time

00:01:37.240 uh the correct time and you can tune in from it uh Monday to Friday and listen to Bo's takes on the

00:01:44.040 daily news and it was very good this morning and so I'm sure Bo will be glad to see you there.

00:01:50.280 All right then Stelios tell us about Venezuela. So something did happen in Venezuela and we are

00:01:56.660 going to talk about it and we have done segments before we did segments about the elections in

00:02:02.300 Venezuela and how Maduro lost them and then the chaos that followed. So if you want to check what

00:02:08.300 we have covered about Venezuela check these two videos and we have many more. Right so Joe Biden

00:02:15.080 warned people about Trump in uh June 2020 he said Trump talks tough on Venezuela but admires thugs and

00:02:24.420 dictators like Nicolas Maduro. Sorry it's the Biden effect. As president I will stand with the

00:02:31.620 venezuelan people and for democracy. So he he weren't this aged well. Right. Right. Okay and we had also

00:02:40.260 John Mearsheimer uh saying how a particular kind of operation is impossible in Venezuela. Let's hear him.

00:02:47.620 And I think that you know you can talk about maybe uh sending in special forces teams that can

00:02:55.940 decapitate the regime or using air power or naval power to coerce Venezuela. But when you look carefully

00:03:04.500 at these options they don't spell success either. First of all Maduro is going to be very hard to get

00:03:11.700 uh to get at. He knows you're coming after him and he's going to do everything he can to hide.

00:03:18.020 Well he did but this didn't exactly turn out as uh uh John Mearsheimer said and um we had operation

00:03:27.620 absolute resolved and it was precisely what John Mearsheimer said was impossible to happen and it did

00:03:33.700 happen. And uh let me tell you a bit more about this. So what what's the case is that in 2025 we have a

00:03:41.060 sort of context building up. We have uh Trump designating Venezuelan gangs like Trendy Aragua and

00:03:49.220 Cartel of the Suns as foreign terrorist organizations. We had naval blockades and especially starting in

00:03:56.900 August 2025 where the U.S. increased its naval presence in the Caribbean eventually seizing

00:04:03.300 sanctions and conducting strikes on alleged drug smuggling vessels. And then we also had some

00:04:09.780 failed diplomacy because in late 2025 Maduro rejected a alleged U.S. offer to be exiled in Turkey

00:04:19.460 and that led to a sort of escalation in military posture. Right so a few days ago three days no two

00:04:27.940 days ago last Saturday we had the operation that lasted for about two and a half hours and it started

00:04:36.980 with a few airstrikes about 150 aircraft conducted precision airstrikes across northern Venezuela and

00:04:44.900 then we had the Delta Force and FBI hostage rescue team members raiding Maduro's compound in Caracas and

00:04:53.620 they sort of kidnapped him or fetched him or however you want to call it in legalistic fashions but they

00:05:00.420 took him from one place they took him to another place. Snatch is a good word for him. In New York where

00:05:06.500 he is going to be tried today and we all know the outcome about of this it's not particularly hard to

00:05:13.060 fathom. Yeah he's going to be seen as a as an anti-communist dictator. I'm willing to get a communist dictator.

00:05:22.100 Yeah a communist dictator thank you Harry. It would be very shocking if that was the decision that they

00:05:27.060 came to. While they turned around. The crime seems communism. Right exactly. We try you. But is that what

00:05:33.620 they're trying him on? Is it illegal in America to be a communist dictator abroad? I don't think that

00:05:38.580 I necessarily this is what they're going to try him on. They're going to say that he is going to be

00:05:42.980 a negative influence for U.S. interests specifically they're going to talk about drugs.

00:05:47.300 Well specifically I believe that he is being tried is it on gun running charges? On gun charges and uh

00:05:56.580 which strange because they don't apply in Venezuela. I think it's American laws. I think he's also being

00:06:02.980 obviously charged with um drug running. So because Venezuela as far as I'm aware is not a major drug

00:06:11.940 manufacturing company country. It's been used as a go-between smuggling zone for countries like

00:06:18.500 Colombia. Well I'll get to J.D. Vance's post where he talks about this. We'll see the J.D. Vance

00:06:24.980 what J.D. Vance has to say about it. At the moment things are really really um new. We will see what happens.

00:06:32.580 But personally I'm happy to see a communist dictator lose power. Um so I'm I'm very happy about this.

00:06:39.300 We will see about what happened and what is going to happen. But that's another discussion. Right. So

00:06:45.620 he is going to be indicted in um I think in the southern district or of New York. I think

00:06:52.340 rumor has it that one of the allegations is driving under influence. Are you serious? No. Yeah.

00:06:58.660 Okay. Right. And there is there is a sort of chaos in discourse with several sides saying many things.

00:07:10.020 But let's first say what Trump has said. He says that he is putting forward the Don Roe doctrine,

00:07:17.700 which is an upgrade from the Monroe doctrine. And he says that the U.S. dominance in the western

00:07:24.340 hemisphere is unquestionable and it will no longer be questioned as he said. One thing that personally

00:07:31.140 I'm not particularly psyched about. I think that this is uh this I I didn't expect it that much and

00:07:37.140 I think that is uh I bet he's wrong in saying that he says that Maria Corina Machado is uh not

00:07:44.580 good as a leader and that she lacks support um in the country. I don't think that that's the case.

00:07:52.180 She won overwhelmingly in elections against Maduro. This is one of the reasons why Maduro was against

00:07:57.380 her. So yeah we'll we'll see what uh happens in the future about it. He may just still be bitter that

00:08:03.460 he didn't get that noble peace prize. Maybe she did and uh he is the president of war and peace

00:08:08.660 simultaneously like Tolstoy level of. Right. Okay. And uh let's see here. So there are some people

00:08:17.300 cheering. There are other people who aren't. And uh I think Venezuelans are cheering. The few

00:08:24.020 Venezuelans I know are incredibly happy. All of them have told me that anything good you hear leftists

00:08:31.860 saying about the regime in Venezuela is shameful propaganda and they're ecstatic at the moment and

00:08:39.380 there are lots of videos with Venezuelans being very happy about it. Uh also Venezuelan diaspora

00:08:46.500 and uh obviously there are people who are uh who are siding um against Maduro and they're incredibly

00:08:55.140 happy. But there are also leftists who are siding with Maduro because the leftists and the leftists

00:09:01.140 always are in favor of so-called leftist revolutions against the people because the people don't know

00:09:07.060 their true interests. Um people who call themselves socialists allegedly know better their interests

00:09:13.380 for them according to the leftist mindset. Here Venezuelan is going viral for calling out deranged

00:09:19.460 leftists defending Maduro saying I saw friends eat dogs to survive. I don't understand how they defend

00:09:25.220 this dictator. Well they defend him because they're leftists. But one thing to notice is that Venezuela had

00:09:30.980 a sort of luck in the first phase in the Chavez phase of the Bolivarian revolution and completely lost

00:09:38.580 luck after Chavez died and that was known because they're very rich in oil reserves and oil will feature

00:09:45.380 again in discussion. Well yeah I think I think it's important to point out that the reason that America

00:09:50.260 will have gone in and done this decapitation which seems to be uh aided on the inside by Venezuelans as

00:09:57.620 well because there was. I've no doubt about that. Obviously you can't just go in. Yeah Venezuelans

00:10:01.380 don't want Maduro. Yeah but also within within the government as well because you can't just go in

00:10:05.780 have no casualties on your side, kidnap the the president of a country and have no casualties unless

00:10:11.700 you've got a lot of help on what are they hiding from us Harry? Uh well I mean it's just obvious that's

00:10:16.500 just how these things go uh but the America will not have done this just because they care so deeply

00:10:22.020 about the plight of poor suffering Venezuelans. They have their own geopolitical interests. And this

00:10:27.220 is what a Venezuelan man says here those who say that the US is only interested in our oil I ask you

00:10:32.980 why do you think the Russians and Chinese wanted here? The recipe for Arapas. So it's it's a bit

00:10:39.300 known that oil is a huge part of it. I mean maybe they did. Maybe China was looking to diversify its menus.

00:10:44.820 No idea. Make them stronger. No idea. No idea. Right. So what I was going to say before is that

00:10:52.100 they were very lucky when the price of Venezuelan oil was very high but and that that was for the

00:10:58.660 Chavez phase but then Chavez died and everyone sort of knew that the person who comes afterward

00:11:04.180 is going to have a tough time because the price of Venezuelan oil fell and they had the major problem

00:11:11.700 with Dutch disease. The Bolivarian revolution was an an unsound economically regime as far as you

00:11:21.140 know as well as unsound in many other many other reasons but they structured all their economy around

00:11:27.060 oil and sort of nationalized and subsidized heavily with statism every other sector so now that when the

00:11:35.460 price of Venezuelan oil fell everything else went south and because it went south there were millions

00:11:43.940 of Venezuelans who fled there was a huge migration crisis called sometimes a humanitarian crisis I

00:11:50.580 don't think that's far-fetched they say that around seven or seven plus million Venezuelans out of a total

00:11:57.220 of around 27 left the country so that's a huge and a lot of them went to the a lot of them went to the

00:12:02.820 U.S. so that's a huge it's huge numbers even for the U.S. right so also let me just say here a Trump

00:12:11.300 critic a major Trump critic Gary Kasparov says two days ago said tomorrow will be an important day in

00:12:18.500 the days after that but today the dictators are afraid the marxists and appeasers are crying and

00:12:23.380 Venezuelans are celebrating the removal of a brutal despot are refused to complain about a day like that

00:12:29.300 may Venezuela be free personally I like that statement it's just yeah I mean we can we can say we can be

00:12:36.980 happy about Venezuela and about Maduro falling and then we can keep the other side and criticism of the

00:12:42.980 other side for another day but that but that's just me magnanimous yeah right so Millet is also happy

00:12:51.460 he says that freedom and that advances also the viva la libertad carajo he says also the world respects

00:12:59.460 America there they put um here we have Bernie Sanders who was very pro Maduro if if you listen to him

00:13:08.980 he says that um he says that um he says some interesting things listen

00:13:13.300 I think I also want to point out that when we were in Moscow for example I think most of the

00:13:17.860 people here also were extremely impressed by their public transportation system the stations

00:13:23.620 themselves were absolutely beautiful uh including many works of art chandeliers that were beautiful

00:13:29.780 it was a very very effective system also I was impressed by the youth programs that they have

00:13:35.300 uh their palaces of of culture for the young people a whole variety of young of programs for young

00:13:42.580 people you get an idea you know that uh Bernie Sanders is has been pro Maduro he's sort of lately trying

00:13:49.060 to water it down but this is the sort of rhetoric that he had for for decades and uh this shows yet again

00:13:57.460 how socialists are just virtue signaling for socialists around the earth and I don't think

00:14:04.820 that Bernie Sanders has done the math or he has done his homework with respect to Venezuela and and

00:14:11.460 economics and socialism in Venezuela and I don't think he has done his homework now he's talking about

00:14:19.060 the international about international law he says Trump violated international law and et cetera and this

00:14:24.580 I think shows one of the grievances that many people have with rhetoric that appeals frequently to

00:14:30.660 international law is that right it's it's good to have good rules but good rules are good to the extent

00:14:36.500 that they're being honored and enforced um to the extent that people who appeal to human rights or

00:14:44.100 international laws in order to make excuses for brutal dictators and for people who violate the spirit of

00:14:51.380 these laws routinely they're not good it's just hypocrisy and I'm willing to bet that people and

00:14:58.500 especially leftists who are saying that Trump right now violated international law would not say it had

00:15:05.940 Trump done so in the case of Putin they would just not say it they would say Trump was correct right

00:15:13.460 that's just me again so the left are hypocrites is what you're saying um yes controversial take

00:15:18.900 well no it's it's just an addition of how this hypocrisy manifests in the my take with all of this

00:15:25.540 sort of stuff the international rules-based order international law is uh mainly enforced and made up

00:15:31.540 ad hoc frankly depending on like like all laws it depends on who enforces it and who is willing to

00:15:38.180 enforce it in what way against who and frankly as America as the global superpower still obviously it's got

00:15:45.300 much more competition uh with Russia and China uh which is partially why they went in and wanted to

00:15:51.460 have more decisive action in Venezuela so they could expand their area of influence over there

00:15:56.020 um they've got more competition but still they're the prevailing superpower which means that

00:16:00.740 ultimately they get to decide what international law means which is true and I'm not a fan of

00:16:07.140 international law either however it's American law that is the case is the problem here did Trump have

00:16:13.140 the agreement of the agreement of Congress to go and abduct a foreign leader and have a military

00:16:19.460 strike on foreign land did he have the uh was it legal on American terms never mind forget international

00:16:25.060 law it was what he did legal by his own legal system well that that's an interesting debate here that

00:16:30.900 I'm sure we're gonna have in the future because it also routinely features in in later discourse

00:16:36.900 especially with the drone strikes on right on uh drug smuggling boats um I you know you could argue

00:16:44.260 that even there he didn't have in some cases congressional support right well because he was he was but

00:16:49.380 some people who don't cheer now were cheering with the with the strikes against the boats but one thing to

00:16:56.020 say here is that I think that to a degree whenever you have the president of the US is also the chief of

00:17:02.260 the military and whenever we're talking about military context there is always a degree of arbitrariness

00:17:08.820 and you need military leaders to be able to act fast if they they think that their interests are

00:17:16.420 being of their their country are being somehow um violated or challenged but yet of course I will

00:17:24.500 I will say this there is a massive discussion there I'm sure right because you've got to be fast but

00:17:29.540 you can't act alone that's the difference there yes yeah yeah I mean but I mean on the other hand

00:17:35.300 for instance I I don't know I'm gonna hesitate I guess here but I think that for instance when it came

00:17:40.740 to things like the Cuban Missile Crisis to be honest I don't think that this was the same level of

00:17:45.700 urgency let me let me be very clear about this but uh you you it is conceivable to say that in so in many

00:17:51.940 cases you do want a president to be able to act fast and in some cases there is simply no time for

00:17:57.940 for for congressional debate but whether this applies in this case or not and whether there

00:18:03.380 can be a case that will be backed against Maduro in the the trial or not we will see well I mean

00:18:10.020 the I mean the other thing is just like even if it is against the law in America will Congress do

00:18:15.380 anything about it as far as I can tell with the past year of American politics domestically Trump still

00:18:22.020 faces a lot of of uh of opposition but in terms of foreign policy America seem or at least Congress

00:18:31.380 the Senate outside of some like Ilhan Omar and such America seems much more united on foreign policy

00:18:39.460 from what I can tell from what I've seen over the past year or so so whether or not they would say

00:18:44.660 that it was legal to do so do Congress agree or not with the action will they do anything about it

00:18:50.740 so I'm not taking a stance on this but just to point out that I think there is a divide because

00:18:55.380 much of the MAGA movement supported Trump as the peace president the guy who would not have any

00:18:59.940 foreign interventions and now we're seeing there's there's a split down the middle of people saying

00:19:03.860 well it's clearly good because he's a communist dictator that's always a good thing to to destroy

00:19:07.540 but on the other hand he said he wouldn't he's gone into Iran he's gone into Venezuela

00:19:11.460 where next and people just want him to focus on America first and you could argue this is America first

00:19:16.580 but at the same time it is also foreign intervention so people are I think it's a bit more muddied than

00:19:20.980 it seems I I suppose though what it is is a precision strike isn't it it's getting involved

00:19:26.740 involved in foreign affairs but without the protracted decades long although no because

00:19:32.500 he's saying they're now going to run Venezuelan oil so there is until further notice there is a vested

00:19:37.300 interest oh yes it was I think everyone knows everyone knows this well everyone knows everyone

00:19:44.180 BlackRock Exxon all these you know big companies benefits how does the American citizen benefit well

00:19:49.780 I mean they you you may argue greater oil security potentially lower oil prices because

00:19:54.660 Trump has been saying for a while that he wants to help to secure the economy bring down gas prices

00:19:59.620 and such some are also saying uh this is Ryan Dawson I saw people sharing this take that he had about

00:20:07.300 is it could be a preemptive measure before greater action is taken in Iran after the strikes last year

00:20:15.060 because if they attack Iran Iran's going to start to close off a lot of oil access that they have

00:20:21.060 coming in from the Middle East so this is a way to secure oil reserves in the case of further action

00:20:27.460 within Iran yes this is what a part of it and uh you could also say that um if Venezuela if they strike a

00:20:35.140 win-win deal in some respects and to be very to be fair when you have a country like Maduro's Venezuela

00:20:42.740 it's hard to not create something better for Venezuelans so it will be a win-win um obviously

00:20:50.260 the question of degree is important and I'd be happy if uh Venezuelans win to a great extent

00:20:56.900 and just to share on that instead of being a 99-1 just to share on that the few Venezuelans that have

00:21:01.380 following me have been in my DMs saying this is this is really good for us this is great for us

00:21:04.820 so similar to what you're hearing so I'm still praying for the Venezuelans that's great let's

00:21:08.420 let's see what what goes on but everyone knows there is no Venezuelans everybody on Twitter all

00:21:13.620 of a sudden is coming out and saying that you've all got so many I didn't know they were just in

00:21:16.900 my DMs I've never I've never met a single Venezuelan person in my life and all of a sudden

00:21:22.020 everybody on Twitter you don't know where all your followers has loads of no no specifically

00:21:26.900 personal Venezuelan friends it's like wait where do you all where do you all meet I don't have any

00:21:32.180 Venezuelan friends so um I'll give you what Marco Rubio says about the those who are worried that this

00:21:38.820 is going to be an Iraq number two right uh he says he he says the experts are clown Venezuela looks

00:21:45.220 nothing like countries in the Middle East and he's saying basically that Venezuela is

00:21:50.660 almost very united against Maduro and they sort of have a homogeneous culture and they lack the

00:21:58.580 the number of groups that exist in other countries in the the Middle East to continue warfare and then

00:22:08.020 you know make ceasefires being something unheard of so he says people need to stop ascribing apples to

00:22:15.620 oranges oh we'll see what happens personally I'm optimistic but I want to be

00:22:20.340 reserved I mean this this is all just talk before we actually see any anything going forward of

00:22:25.140 course Rubio is going to say that he's going to say yeah this is a successful operation that will

00:22:29.940 just lead to more and more successes we will see yeah now we have JD Vance's uh claim I'll so just

00:22:36.580 tell you what it says you see a lot of claims that Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs because

00:22:41.220 most of the fentanyl comes from elsewhere I want to address this first fentanyl isn't the only drug in

00:22:47.220 the world and there is still fentanyl coming from Venezuela or at least there was second cocaine

00:22:52.500 which is the main drug trafficked out of Venezuela is a profit center for all of the Latin America

00:22:58.340 cartels if you cut out the money from cocaine or even reduce it you substantially weaken the cartel

00:23:04.500 overall uh cocaine is bad too I don't know why he felt the need to do it to include that to be honest

00:23:10.820 drugs are bad okay yeah drugs are bad don't do them third yes a lot of fentanyl is coming out of

00:23:16.820 Mexico that continues to be a focus of our policy in Mexico and is a reason why President Trump

00:23:21.940 shut the border on day one fourth I see a lot of criticism about oil about 20 years Venezuela

00:23:27.700 expropriated the American oil property and until recently used that stolen property to get rich and

00:23:33.060 fund their narco terrorist activities understand the anxiety of the use of military force but are we just

00:23:38.180 supposed to allow communists to steal our stuff in our hemisphere and do nothing great powers don't

00:23:43.780 act like that I think for me a lot of the stuff to do with the drugs angle on it would feel a lot

00:23:51.940 stronger if Donald Trump as head of the administration just last month hadn't given a personal executive

00:23:58.980 pardon to uh Hernandez the former president of Honduras who was involved directly in the ferrying of drugs

00:24:07.620 from Honduras to America so I do think a lot of the moral posturing comes across a lot weaker after he

00:24:15.860 has done that purely because that president Hernandez was a very pro-Trump Trump aligned America aligned

00:24:23.380 the president in comparison to what Honduras has at the moment so I understand the posturing it's just

00:24:30.100 a lot weaker for me when it seems much more clearly about securing security and oil reserves I don't

00:24:37.780 think that in the western I don't think Trump has made so much a name out of moral posturing is

00:24:43.620 I think he has made the name much more out of a sort of uh let's say negotiator who is very real

00:24:50.980 politic negotiator and in this case he could say yeah Columbia and it's it's very hard to not have

00:24:58.260 a moral dimension in your rhetoric it's virtually impossible especially if you're a politician but

00:25:03.700 it could be the case that um that something has gone behind the scenes and we don't know what was

00:25:10.100 exchanged in exchange for for that pardon now and also for mature yeah so and and also yeah that's also

00:25:17.620 and also I mean I I get it people will say well what about the Mexican cartels and it is a valid

00:25:24.100 concern we'll see because Trump has still about three years ago uh two years and ten months not ago

00:25:31.540 I mean in in that in in those we'll see what happens in those years if you really want to cut off

00:25:38.260 a lot of the problems with drugs in the US you're going to need to have massive domestic operations to

00:25:44.420 cut off all of the cartel contacts that are within the US and just deport millions and millions of

00:25:50.740 illegals who are already in the country I understand that like I said there's domestic problems that

00:25:55.140 he's going to get a lot more pushback domestically than he has on foreign policy over the past year

00:26:00.660 but ultimately if you want to solve a lot of these problems that is the action that you need to take

00:26:05.780 well he he seems um he seems willing to take action or at least much more than previous presidents which

00:26:13.780 is something that uh makes one a bit uh optimistic on the one hand but also just curious to see what

00:26:18.740 happens this isn't exactly chadja territory right but you know the nothing ever happens theme

00:26:25.060 oh no no of course so Trump mocks uh Putin's uh three-day special military operation calling the

00:26:30.820 Russian army primitive there is sort of uh you know jabbing at each other he says uh now let's go

00:26:38.740 to the memes let's have some fun I am conscious a bit of time so we'll speed up a bit you always got

00:26:43.620 to remind me of the freaks here we have the gunther eagle man says here thank god this is over

00:26:50.660 i'll give him that yeah yeah uh we have here what a difference a presidency makes right and let's move

00:26:58.260 here uh sneaker talks about world war three again i don't think world war three is going to happen

00:27:03.860 over maduro that's another controversial take of mine right so here we have another meme it's like

00:27:11.700 maduro on joe rogan say so there i was on the phone with my body when i heard fortunate son playing from a

00:27:19.380 distance yeah it's a great song yeah so i'll tell you the issue i have with this and maybe you can clarify

00:27:26.260 it for me yeah and the thing i hate about neocons is that we must spread our democracy right and and

00:27:32.500 people who seem to be supporting this seem to be saying yeah communist dictator like i have nothing

00:27:36.500 against dictatorships we can have very benevolent dictatorships but communism is obviously evil

00:27:40.740 but that's not for me that's not a good enough reason the oil isn't a good enough reason liberating

00:27:45.620 another people isn't a good enough reason they're not our people right and so i would almost prefer

00:27:50.420 if it was it was more imperialistic and they just said look we are america this is part of the americas

00:27:54.740 we're taking venezuela it's now part of our territory is bam done it's the it's the hot it's

00:27:59.060 the appeasing the liberal progressive sensibilities of well we're not quite colonializing we're just

00:28:04.900 we're just liberating these people then we're going to leave them and they'll get all the money and

00:28:09.060 leave all the weapons or whatever we do like in afghanistan i i it doesn't sit right i mean empires

00:28:14.660 always tend to try and give themselves some kind of moral dimension i mean even even with the british

00:28:19.860 empire we admitted we were an empire yeah well that's true well that's one of the that's one of my

00:28:24.420 many points of the absolute supremacy of the british empire over the american empire my main

00:28:31.060 problem with the american empire is not only the moral dressing that it gives itself also that just

00:28:35.860 comparatively next to like the british or anything uh from what i can see they're just really bad at it

00:28:41.140 right um like they try they tend to go in and try and make places really gay yeah um like we spread

00:28:47.140 christianity they spread democracy i i have several things to respond to you in a you know in a

00:28:54.180 relaxed manner it's uh i think that's good discussion i don't think trump has said anything

00:29:00.580 about spreading democracy in venezuela maybe he has used a language that is democracy adjacent

00:29:07.940 and i'd expect him to if he hasn't if he hasn't already i expect him to do in the future he could say

00:29:13.620 things like maduro was illegitimate there is a notion of uh of appeal to consent there but i don't

00:29:20.340 think trump has marketed what he has done here as a sort of spread of democracy um on the other hand i

00:29:27.620 think it's definitely the case that maduro wasn't a benevolent let's say dictator you can have someone

00:29:34.180 yielding tremendous amount of power and that power being checked and make good decisions that's a

00:29:40.180 conceptual possibility um and you could argue that historically has happened but when it comes to

00:29:46.740 the neocons and the thing is it seems to me that there is a divide being presented to us it's like

00:29:53.060 either hardcore isolationism zero geopolitical influence just let the world do whatever it happens

00:30:00.100 or uh george bush uh junior type of military involvement and then a continuation of it for decades

00:30:07.540 it seems to me that trump is trying to strike a middle ground there with precision that's a fair

00:30:11.940 point because he's not an ideologue he's pragmatic more like a jacksonian and there is the other bit

00:30:16.580 is that isolationism tends to he's more realistic than uh than that because he may have you you can

00:30:24.660 argue that in his rhetoric pre-election he did have isolationist aspects that's beyond beyond doubt more

00:30:32.260 so 2016 than 2024 he absolutely did have isolationist dimensions in his rhetoric but then there's the

00:30:39.620 other bit is that when you are in a geopolitical set setting it's the same thing as in a political

00:30:46.020 setting in a domestic one they say you know in pericles that you may not care about politics but

00:30:51.060 politics will care about you yes the same applies for geopolitics so the ultra isolationist temperament

00:30:57.220 neglects the fact that the others geopolitical rivals are restless they're not going to sleep

00:31:02.900 if you sleep they're not going to sleep they're trying to take advantage of you sleeping right so

00:31:07.620 that's you know but that's the sort of way one could view it um here we have another meme i'll just

00:31:14.260 speed up with the memes because i'm mindful of time say here el nuevo presidente de venezuela it's funny

00:31:22.100 my my caracas my dune that's wrong that's still the most disturbing yeah absolutely maduro is gonna

00:31:31.300 bite the bite his teeth tooth i didn't watch the remade dunes i'm only you have to i'm only familiar

00:31:40.740 with the lynch one harry i'm gonna instigate a coup on your house and force you to watch dune all right

00:31:47.140 and then i'll leave okay it's to spread democracy the greeks are going to credit you they're going

00:31:51.860 to do a decapitation strike on my house right okay uh it says here get chavez i mean maduro eff it

00:31:59.060 get chavez too that's good here uh i think maduro was singing imagine and says imagine no possession

00:32:07.460 it's easy if you try and says done thanks for the oil wait

00:32:10.900 here call of duty modern warfare love it here that's about the leftists because they've really

00:32:21.140 lost it and it has joker says mother was a mother was an anti-fascist and a libtard one night she

00:32:27.860 turns on the news drunker than usual america deposed an oppressive fascist dictator she doesn't

00:32:33.460 like that not one bit right and here i'm gonna say one thing that i find here we have someone a

00:32:40.020 leftist screaming free maduro yeah whatever and here is where i'm gonna say something that i think

00:32:46.900 is no it's in a bit um they say has anyone checked on medvedev he hasn't made a single nuclear threat

00:32:54.420 all day come on post something he's the one who you know he's the bad cop putin is presenting himself

00:33:02.500 as the good cop medvedev is always we're gonna nuke you you know it's just nuke you nuke you some

00:33:08.180 people only have one trick yeah here and here i am gonna be a bit critical of some people in the

00:33:15.060 in podcast they say here america does something cool and uses the military for the greater good

00:33:20.180 as average american podcaster that's really funny it's just let's have some fun and here i i'm trolling

00:33:27.780 a bit tucker because he was playing the the socially conservative card on maduri he was saying he's

00:33:35.780 socially conservative and stuff and say a moment of silence for maduro's socially conservative

00:33:41.460 communist dictatorship i didn't expect it to go that well to be honest i expected the pylon but it

00:33:46.740 it went well times change but it's fun also on that subject right my my main worry is if they do

00:33:55.540 actually go in with a proper full-on occupation which is still to be seen it's worth pointing out

00:34:00.740 so far there were a few strikes and maduro was kidnapped right the rest of the government as far

00:34:06.820 as we can tell is still in place the vice president has stepped up and made a few comments about all of

00:34:12.740 this um we'll see if they actually end up occupying and where this goes do they actually control the

00:34:20.740 country or is it just are you saying no transition in venezuela is something relating to gender

00:34:26.740 uh maybe maybe uh well that's uh if they do end up somehow getting a full-on occupation force

00:34:35.380 by the end of the year will venezuela have legalized gay marriage legalized abortion uh gender uh tolerance

00:34:43.380 classes and other such things that are typical of american occupation as callum saw when he went to

00:34:50.340 afghanistan in the aftermath of them kicking the americans out and just went and found the in that bin the

00:34:56.580 enormous pile of gender tolerance lesson binders so they were being put through and that would have

00:35:02.180 been partially under trump's first if this happens it would be a shame if this happens it would be a

00:35:07.060 shame but i want to say that these are things that did happen in in the west and there there is there

00:35:13.700 are still mechanisms of fighting back because there have been like with obviously seven he has moved

00:35:19.860 against wokeness so yeah i think that even if that were the case i think it's better than which would be a

00:35:25.380 shame i'm not saying i'm for this but even that were the case it's a really low bar it's honestly

00:35:30.740 when we were talking about madura's madura's venezuela it's it's the lowest one of the lowest

00:35:35.700 bars imaginable to improve it somehow obviously they can improve the economic situation but i just

00:35:42.100 worry that along with that they'll also bring in all of the spiritual oh it's yin and yang there isn't

00:35:47.940 there there isn't perfection in this world that if lots of the things you're saying happen it will be a

00:35:53.540 shame and the woman coming into power as a zionist is she not i i don't know i think the opposition

00:35:59.060 are i don't i don't think the vice president is but the the opposition is these things i really don't

00:36:04.500 know i really don't know um they say here marco rubio's presidential odds jump up uh a bit and they

00:36:14.100 have this meme here that's funny and anyway we have a really funny 180s i think um morgan j freeman

00:36:22.820 says maduro will fall venezuela will be free two years ago and now it says if you want new york

00:36:28.980 governor kathy hulkul to immediately return maduro and his wife to venezuela like this and also this

00:36:35.940 guy says um this is a post by christian hayans he says have you even said thank you once and he is

00:36:43.220 showing a a one another 180 of that account where he said the world cannot stand by and let maduro

00:36:50.180 steal the election in venezuela and now says trump's a war criminal trump's a war criminal right so we we

00:36:57.300 are going to see but i think that if we isolate um the all the other things i think it's a good day for

00:37:04.500 venezuela if the because maduro fell i hope the next thing is better it's a really low bar but i

00:37:12.420 think we are going back to what we were saying before with calvin it's an issue of degrees it's

00:37:17.380 a low bar it will be a win-win but it's good if it isn't just a 99 one percent win-win it's good if

00:37:25.620 it's it resembles close to a 50 50. all right do you want to go through the uh

00:37:31.780 oh yeah sure okay four hour podcast boys

00:37:43.780 we're here till six

00:37:46.740 that steak bake

00:37:48.900 hero san shiban says uh good job on maduro to zelinski next well i mean there is a an era of

00:37:56.100 unpredictability uh to the world now isn't there anyone could get zelinski's their guy i'm sorry

00:38:02.660 like that whole february thing last year we shouted at zelinski in the oval office it's not come to

00:38:08.340 anything now uh like ultimately he's the he's the american puppet yeah sure well at least the nato

00:38:14.900 puppet i'm not saying you know the comments saying zelinski i'm just saying that all the world leaders

00:38:19.940 are definitely up for grabs like you know like the claw ones who aren't aligned where it just ones who

00:38:24.900 aren't aligned with america yeah ones who are basically incredibly weak regimes yeah certainly are

00:38:30.740 probably sweating right um i did put out the idea of america coming and getting keir stormer next

00:38:36.820 kids liberate the brits right lots of people put this and there was a massive twitter fight on this

00:38:42.820 well i mean trump likes care like if america didn't like what goes on in england what goes on in england

00:38:50.980 wouldn't happen uh oh punk says i have it from reliable sources that maduro will join mamdani's office

00:38:57.700 as his economic advisor uh flavius magnus says turns out that uh your world superpower you can

00:39:04.260 just do things and commies can only cope like tards uh ten dollars from luke uh saint uh 91 says good day

00:39:12.420 all i hope you all had a good christmas and new year i thought trump was sexist or something but

00:39:17.380 he did this because that lady who won the noble peace prize called for help this is true this is real

00:39:22.980 news thank you um uh ryan uh hinigan says uh the translated from spanish bangers on x have been

00:39:30.580 the cherry on top apparently latin america's memes about maduro is that he is some anti-tech has some

00:39:38.420 anti-technology aura that causes all videos of him to be uh and then it's 144 yeah uh i don't care if he

00:39:48.740 didn't get boomer such a boomer you don't even understand what 144p is this guy i'm trying to

00:39:55.540 rush through low resolution uh that's the random name says happy new year lotus munchers uh this will

00:40:00.980 be the year of the bigots the year of remigration the year of helicopters and uh god willing the year

00:40:08.740 where canada gets liberated well i mean obviously i only hope for good things for canada and uh open

00:40:15.460 colson says trump didn't kill the international rules-based liberal order he just dug up its

00:40:20.260 corpse peed on it and put it back in the ground upside down oh yeah just to be clear i'm not

00:40:26.020 claiming that trump is the one that killed it i'm claiming that it was fake and gay the whole time

00:40:32.420 all right if we could move to the next set thank you samson

00:40:35.940 the new year and things are already falling apart i can't take it anymore he's asking me to

00:40:48.900 move to the left all right is that good great okay so all right ladies and gentlemen so i wanted to

00:40:55.700 start this segment by talking about the fact that we're basically as of this most recent new year

00:41:01.700 up to the 10th anniversary of the mass sexual assaults that happened in cologne right uh new

00:41:08.580 year's eve in germany back in 2015 and i really wanted to bring this up one because it's worthy of

00:41:15.940 remembrance right and we should still to this day be absolutely furious about it as well as the whole

00:41:22.340 other slew of horrors and terrors that have been allowed to happen to our continent um because of the

00:41:31.940 ideological you know just sort of orthodoxy and the the sheer um arrogance of those in the eu and

00:41:40.900 those who hate us and you know claim to speak for europe but actually care nothing for uh european

00:41:48.340 ethnic groups and their self-determination in their own lands they care absolutely nothing for

00:41:53.700 the sense of freedom and liberty that europeans have historically managed to enjoy and sort of

00:42:00.420 cultivated cultivated cultivated created over many many centuries and ultimately this one event uh

00:42:08.740 back in 2015 just serves as a microcosm of because like so many things that have happened here

00:42:17.940 this should have been end game territory for any sort of political system if you create a system that

00:42:25.620 allows this to happen where 1200 women are sexually assaulted by foreign men who've been let in against

00:42:33.940 the consent of the german people or any other country where this similar sort of thing has taken place

00:42:40.500 then that should be the end of your regime right because that is not something that we want to live

00:42:46.500 with it's not something that our women want to live with and it's not something that our future

00:42:50.740 children should have to live with either or it would be the basic sorry but we do this is the

00:42:55.540 problem yes i know i'm in agreement with you but i think the problem there is you phrase it in a

00:43:00.100 wilsonian kind of self-determination um phrase and that's that's the problem itself we expect this is

00:43:05.700 why we lost the empire right because that phrase self-determination we gave we liberated we gave freedom

00:43:10.980 to peoples that were under our care as a british empire and what you're doing by phrasing in that way

00:43:16.500 saying we need to be given our freedom back by the european union or by people above us when actually

00:43:21.460 true self-determination is taking back your land no one has a right to anything you know people often

00:43:26.420 say to me oh don't you think such such country has a right to it so no like we don't have a right to

00:43:30.740 this country we own it through sheer will and determination and because we love it and if we

00:43:35.620 loved our land enough we'd fight for it same with the germans if they don't want this to happen

00:43:39.380 they've got to push but they're going to do something about it oh you don't believe me you don't need to

00:43:43.380 persuade me on that front i agree the basic duty of the of a of a state is to ensure public safety

00:43:50.020 yeah yes and what's more as well this like so to make excuses for such behavior which they sort of

00:43:56.100 did yeah well yeah and they do it implicitly every time that something of the sort happens yep and they

00:44:02.980 react the way they do and what's more as well the point that i wanted to make with this particular

00:44:08.180 story as well is that it's always the same pattern you get mass immigration uh which no

00:44:13.540 one asked for no one wanted and is literally killing our continent and then with that you

00:44:18.820 get the state cover-ups you get the the message the perception in here uh in england we get don't

00:44:25.620 look back in anger in germany you get don't believe your lying eyes right none of this is actually taking

00:44:30.580 place these weren't foreign men at all aren't people all the same really all this crap right

00:44:35.300 we know the story but my point is that everything that allowed this to happen 10 years ago is still

00:44:43.620 in place and we are caught in this paralyzing nightmare where we're forced every year to relive

00:44:50.180 the same conversation have the same talking points about the same uh curses that are just plaguing our

00:44:56.900 countries and the people in power are still there sure one or two of them might have lost an election

00:45:03.380 but the apparatus of state and the eu and their project a project which is more of this continues

00:45:13.220 uh basically unchecked right there's very little as you say calvin that is being done right now to

00:45:18.180 actually fight against this and so that is why when trump and the europe um basically putting

00:45:27.540 considering putting a ban on eu officials who censor americans now don't get me wrong again they're

00:45:33.540 not doing this for europeans they're doing this because of american citizens and them getting caught up

00:45:40.900 in a whole lot of european red tape right that has come across the continent they're putting their own citizens

00:45:46.660 first and clearly it would be good if europe uh did the same thing because then we wouldn't have

00:45:53.380 hot horror stories like this going around but then and i realize that this is obviously a story that

00:45:59.940 took place uh over the christmas period but i thought that it was uh worth digging into actually in some

00:46:07.140 detail because we're seeing um quite a sharp turn here now i grant you that the idea that some ex

00:46:14.900 european commissioner or just some uh paid political activist by one of the uh european states not being

00:46:22.820 able to go to america is not in the grand scheme of things the greatest thing in the world but the

00:46:28.580 fact that the united states is willing to actually put some sort of pressure on the on

00:46:35.300 these people now that actually they um because was anyone in the eu who actually worked for brussels

00:46:42.500 truly affected by something like this the women were but no one would have lost their jobs over it

00:46:48.020 everything in brussels just carried on as normal and now with this new trajectory we may at last

00:46:55.060 finally see um the screws come down metaphorically on on these european officials so when rubio says

00:47:04.020 for too long ideologues in europe have led organized efforts to coerce american platforms to punish

00:47:10.100 american viewpoints they oppose and the trump administration will no longer tolerate these egregious acts of

00:47:16.180 extra-territorial censorship today the state department will take steps to bar leading figures

00:47:22.020 of the global censorship industry complex from entering the united states we stand ready and

00:47:28.500 willing to expand this list if others do not reverse course excuse me and all of this to say as well

00:47:38.340 is the fact that so far all of these people are not actual commissioners but i want this to be a

00:47:45.780 gesture right i want this to keep going further and further and i think that this should be ratcheted up

00:47:51.380 until those at the very height of the brussels political class start to feel it because until now

00:48:00.100 there's been this constant um we've just had to indulge this lie while starmer goes to america and

00:48:08.100 says oh we're very proud of our free speech we don't have it you know we don't have it trump knows we

00:48:13.380 don't have it and yet we just have to all continue with this fictional story this fantasy and so you can

00:48:21.620 see um the under secretary of state going through a list of people uh that were on this this first list

00:48:30.020 of people who are now bad from going to the united states uh some of those include social media media

00:48:37.620 campaigners uh from the united kingdom and i'll just mention as well that they include uh imran ahmed an

00:48:48.020 ex-labor advisor who now leads the center for countering digital hate you can only guess what

00:48:54.020 sort of things they would believe constitute digital hate and claire milford the ceo of the global

00:49:01.220 disinformation index um and they were labeled labeled as radical activists and they absolutely are

00:49:08.900 because these sorts of people spend all day trying to manage european perception

00:49:17.220 two things like this that's all it comes down to this happens and the problem is you for having a

00:49:24.580 you know for caring about it that's where the problem lies according to those in brussels this

00:49:30.420 all goes to harry's previous point though doesn't it in that if trump doesn't like something that

00:49:34.100 starmer's doing he would do something about it and here it's affecting americans directly so he's

00:49:38.100 doing something about yes because he's america first oh i absolutely agree and uh look i want to add

00:49:43.860 that uh you can see an extra layer of hypocrisy when it comes to the eu uh against that rhetoric

00:49:50.820 because the very rhetoric they claim to be far-right and extremist is the rhetoric they employ when it

00:49:57.540 comes to the poland and belarus border when it comes to the border between poland and belarus

00:50:03.460 that's where putin and lukashenko are waging hybrid warfare by migration flows

00:50:09.700 in the eu and they must be stopped because putin and it's a complete

00:50:15.460 it's a case of complete cognitive dissonance it's as if the only border that the eu has is the border

00:50:21.380 between poland and belarus it's the emperor is naked that's what i'm saying yeah absolutely uh but

00:50:28.420 this was the biggest name to come from there it's uh tiere breton who was as um sarah points out here

00:50:35.700 a mastermind of the digital services act and this guy really was one of the uh the worst of them

00:50:43.860 there really was one of the worst of them and you have him here he was very proud of the eu and

00:50:51.060 intervention in romania's elections uh to make sure that the romanians voted the way that the european

00:50:57.540 union wanted to he also suggested that um a similar tactic could certainly be tried in germany uh because

00:51:05.220 the afd is getting a little bit too high in the polls for that i'm sorry to interrupt like whenever i

00:51:10.740 obviously within europe and britain we have major problems with these kinds of bureaucrats

00:51:18.740 okay we have major problems with these kinds of bureaucrats meddling in international affairs

00:51:24.500 within and outside of europe trying to stop people from voting the wrong way but at the same time with

00:51:31.620 all of this coming from america as well i can't help but think back to alex carp the head of palantir

00:51:39.700 heavily connected to peter teal who is heavily himself connected to jd vance etc saying that

00:51:46.340 he and palantir are the only reason that europe is not controlled by the far right right now like we

00:51:52.180 can't also ignore the fact that america also outside of just what they post on twitter and announce to

00:51:59.220 the public also meddle within domestic european politics absolutely sure that bureaucrats and politicians

00:52:06.900 that they want in charge are also in those positions and i do assume you know you can criticize me for

00:52:14.100 i assume that is part of the theater of this because ultimately america needs a relatively strong

00:52:22.820 eastern europe to push back against russia to stand as a bulwark against russia the rest of europe

00:52:30.660 america knows historically that like if we all had our countries in order we would be potential we

00:52:37.860 would have the potential to generate build great powerful empires that could present a rival block

00:52:43.860 to america and so they don't want us strong domestically or internationally so that they

00:52:50.500 don't have to worry about us they've got enough trouble with russia they've got enough trouble with

00:52:54.580 china they don't want a massively strong europe to contend with as well so i do want to just

00:53:00.820 point it out as well america does plenty of meddling over here harry to add to what you were saying

00:53:06.580 um thierry breton was accused of interfering in the u.s elections when he started talking about

00:53:13.220 a i think a podcast uh discussion between trump and elon musk and he was then fired from his position

00:53:22.260 in the eu i think ursula von der leyen uh did so but then he was he was given a new role as an advisor to the

00:53:31.460 bank of america now that doesn't mean that he's there on a 95 weekly basis it says that it's symbolic

00:53:39.620 but a few days he gives let's say uh advice to the bank of america and that's after trump has been elected

00:53:46.980 um yeah yeah it's just to say so um yeah exactly as you were saying uh tiara went to tried to go to

00:53:55.220 war with elon over x and it's uh you know um overstepping of the dsa of the um but elon uh wasn't

00:54:05.380 having it obviously this is all very well chronicled at this point uh and then we get into other

00:54:11.780 activist sorts as well now this here i actually found quite interesting because obviously i as

00:54:16.820 no expert on german politics um obviously this led me to look into this hate aid and it seems to be

00:54:24.580 for all intents and purposes kind of like a german cousin to hope not hate which as we all know is

00:54:31.460 a very scary idea can you make hope not hate even worse apparently so apparently you can this

00:54:38.260 frankenstein except with german efficiency yeah there's a big one in canada as well i'm kind of

00:54:44.740 wondering now if these are all related and that's stopped working i mean they're all probably funded

00:54:50.660 by their own governments and soros as well yeah and so our domestic and international elements right

00:54:57.700 uh and obviously the eu wasn't particularly happy about this they said that uh our casual callous who as

00:55:04.260 we know would uh we would be um in a terrible place as a as a society as a civilization if we didn't have

00:55:12.660 kadja here watching over us all saying the decision by the us to impose travel restrictions

00:55:18.740 on european citizens and officials is unacceptable and an attempt to challenge our sovereignty europe

00:55:25.380 will keep defending its values freedom of expression fair digital rules and the right to regulate their

00:55:31.060 our own space yes and it's that regulation of the digital rules and the freedom of expression

00:55:37.300 kadja that has got you into this position in the first place a position that you don't even believe

00:55:43.460 in because as we point out here you're as we said when it comes to things like russia all of a sudden

00:55:50.180 going into another country and being able to travel there is a privilege and not a human right and it's

00:55:55.300 easy to do so it takes political will it it is guard the borders stop uh excessive welfareism

00:56:02.820 and that's it uh just for the sake of time i'll skip through the last few which is to say that

00:56:09.620 macron of course was absolutely not happy about it either and stood up for his mate breton uh even

00:56:15.940 though i would suggest that actually um maybe you'd be wanting to have a bit of a stronger word with him

00:56:21.940 given that he seems to have contributed to uh such an international crisis right where we're actually

00:56:28.340 getting european officials barred from america but nonetheless yes he was a good boy and he did his

00:56:33.380 job uh just as the technocrats wanted but all of this comes down to as well to say that um of course

00:56:40.660 uh they will keep going after the afd as they rise in the polls they will keep trying to switch which

00:56:47.380 party is in power on the front of eastern europe marine le pen was banned now i don't actually

00:56:54.180 particularly um care very strongly about that in principle obviously i think it's wrong but i think

00:57:00.500 they i think the french establishment have shot themselves in the foot a bit here by uh getting

00:57:06.020 the the old boomer woman out the way and replacing her with basically jordan bardello who is a younger

00:57:12.580 more radical option um and but that really is the point that the eu is constantly trying to censor and

00:57:21.700 just manage the perception of its own politics and what it's doing and because of platforms like x

00:57:28.500 that narrative is running away from them and the part of the parties as well i mean talk about the

00:57:33.060 french elections the most recent french election there was the active involvement and coordination

00:57:37.700 between all of the parties opposing le pen's party yeah absolutely keep them out by strategically

00:57:43.060 pulling out candidates yes specific places and so and also as well just to say as well that of course

00:57:49.140 we know that um to just go off of what your point was harry as well about american influence of course

00:57:57.140 in europe that we know that many of these new populist parties that are coming in uh that are on the rise

00:58:04.020 are obviously more friendly to the trump presidency and more friendly to america than a lot of the current

00:58:10.980 european technocrats i imagine that's one of the ways that they hope to curry favor uh and and so that

00:58:18.500 america can move against these types rather than yeah i absolutely agree and also just to say as well

00:58:24.980 that whilst all of this goes on you have people like uh martin selner you know patriots in their own

00:58:31.460 right and obviously you had uh lauren southern back in 2018 as well she was barred from bank from coming to

00:58:38.660 britain uh because she would was regarded as being a uh uh well just it wasn't in the public good for

00:58:46.420 it to be allowed in the country because she was probably going to say some things about immigration

00:58:51.220 that would have been a real pr problem for the establishment and so all of this is going on in

00:58:56.580 one direction and it's good to finally see even if it is in just such a small way some of the

00:59:03.140 the architects of this madness finally being you know having some the eye of sauron put on them as

00:59:11.140 well and that they may uh hopefully it'll escalate further the last thing that i want to point out with

00:59:18.340 all of this as well is to come back to what a lot of the talk was about towards the end of last year

00:59:24.260 um all of this is going on whilst the eu seems to ratchet up the rhetoric about sending us all to

00:59:31.860 war um and i do wonder with all of this if actually despite uh the u.s state bearing down on the eu uh

00:59:44.260 who it obviously has no liking for and neither really do uh the populations of europe if in fact rather

00:59:51.700 than being out of the woods things might get even more dangerous because as this establishment

00:59:58.820 weakens it will panic and i actually think that again just to come back to it one last time if we

01:00:06.740 see things like what was happening in cologne and the monstrous horrors that have been allowed to go on in

01:00:14.740 europe over these many many years there is nothing that those in brussels will not do

01:00:22.580 if it means preserving their power right we do not matter to them and so uh i think that this is a good

01:00:29.940 move um from washington although i agree that we should be cynical about the reasons for it and i only

01:00:38.100 hope personally that we see um as i say um some more uh coming the eu's way in the future

01:00:49.220 all right i'll need a drink actually i think i think that last tweet you were showing is important

01:00:54.420 because the the lie that gets to me is is was it kaja or harja whatever name is when they keep pushing

01:00:59.460 this we support freedom of expression there's not a single country in europe that has free speech

01:01:04.420 gonna enshrined in their laws not a single one that doesn't have a caveat for hate hate speech

01:01:08.900 and what's more that freedom of speech just the definition of it shrinks year on year as a uh

01:01:16.420 run out right i'll re-rumble rents yeah i'll quickly go through uh binary surfers that's for the next

01:01:22.820 maybe uh yeah oh yeah he says for my segment statistically redemption is a lie in any real sense i can't see

01:01:30.180 whatever you've linked us to there but i'm sure that you've brought up some really great uh statistics

01:01:36.100 just as a priest i can say redemption is not a lie we rely on it's gotta speak up for the old j man here

01:01:44.100 you just keep uh sipping from that mug uh logan pine says someone outside claim that because we don't

01:01:51.300 uh uh do something that i can't say to leaders uh minecraft our leaders yeah uh we'll never win

01:01:58.100 forgetting that it took us years to even understand what was happening i i don't think

01:02:02.980 and you are refer i'll say it you're referring to aa there i don't think that that's exactly

01:02:07.940 what he's saying i think he's saying that we are not in a position to be able to consider doing

01:02:14.180 anything like that to our leaders and the poor organization on the right keeps us from being

01:02:20.740 able to do uh anything like exercise power just because some people are uh led by the nose on the

01:02:27.540 uh on the news cycle i do not take quite so dour a position on the whole subject as him i am happy to

01:02:34.500 be positive about things and i uh being a nationalist as well i do think that there are people trying to

01:02:40.660 organize things but from his perspective i can see why he gets so so grumpy about things listen we all get

01:02:47.940 grumpy sometimes yes and then the final one from logan says the right was neutered before 2016 now

01:02:54.500 look at what we've uh what we're becoming the zoomers are breaking down the door and the new leaders are

01:02:59.780 gathering steam yeah reasons for hope all right harry over to you well because because i've rewatched

01:03:06.340 the prequels over the weekend when you say look at what we're becoming i've just gotten in my mind

01:03:10.980 anakin post-murdering mason what have i become and then immediately marching on the jedi temple to

01:03:18.020 kill children fulfilling your destiny harry this is what the zoomers are becoming this is what we're

01:03:22.980 doing so this should be stelios's favorite segment why podcast whores

01:03:29.700 and strippers see i told you i've put a smile on his face he's in the zone harry you had my

01:03:40.660 curiosity now you got my attention oh did this desk just raise a few anyway um so whores sadly in the

01:03:49.460 modern period that we live in young girls have more opportunities than ever to become whores at a very

01:03:56.980 young age many of them or at least too many of them basically as soon as they turn 18 can immediately

01:04:02.980 sign up to only fans and start selling pictures and videos of themselves to creeps across the internet

01:04:10.420 but what happens when the inevitable spiritual and mental degradation that comes with that behavior

01:04:17.460 starts to get to them is there redemption is there a path outside of it and that's what i want to

01:04:24.020 examine today i will also just preface all of this by saying only fans as a platform internet pornography

01:04:31.300 more broadly but only fans specifically for the sake of this is a heinous and disgusting platform that

01:04:37.380 really should be banned because it gives these young girls and they pay purposefully for promotion and

01:04:44.260 advertising across newspapers for news stories about young girls who immediately signed up on their 18th

01:04:49.700 birthday and made millions of dollars in a single day to promote that platform giving these girls

01:04:55.860 the idea that as soon as they are able to they should become internet porn stars which is a disgusting thing

01:05:03.380 to encourage young girls to do imagine remember that these are people's daughters sisters uh future

01:05:10.180 mothers and this is really really bad for them just on a personal level outside of all of the men who enable it

01:05:18.260 outside of the fact that they're enabling men's bad behavior as well spiritually it is a horrible horrible poison

01:05:25.780 that they are inflicting on themselves and so what happens when that gets to them well lily phillips of

01:05:32.260 all people who you may remember from uh i think i do not have the tweet on here but you may remember at the end

01:05:41.380 of around 2024 there were the viral clips of her going around where she was crying and weeping because she had done

01:05:48.900 a challenge for her only fans page where she had slept with 100 men in 12 hours i think and it was caught as part of some

01:05:57.380 documentary that was being made on it her crying afterwards now i saw some people trying to make excuses for this saying that this was because oh she had something in her eye i'm sure some of it did get in her eye

01:06:09.380 but she also just seemed genuinely very upset and was speaking about how she had begun dissociating

01:06:17.620 during the experience and of the 100 men or over 100 i don't know how many she could only really remember

01:06:25.860 nine or ten now that to me sounds like a very unhealthy experience to put yourself through on a personal level that sounds damaging and since then

01:06:37.700 she leaned into that her and that bonnie blue woman kind of went through a period of challenging one another

01:06:44.740 in competition where they would do one extreme sex stunt after another to try and top what the other one

01:06:50.340 had done and that led to one stunt where this lily phillips i think slept with over a thousand men which

01:06:58.740 is the sort of thing that would happen to you if you were captured by some sort of mongol warlord you know in

01:07:04.900 the middle ages not out of your own choice but she put herself through it on purpose and then

01:07:11.620 surprise news came at the end of last year on the 28th of december 2025 she was quote unquote re-baptized

01:07:21.060 on camera as all of the most sincere baptisms are right and stated that she had rededicated

01:07:27.620 her life to god this is despite the fact that she still has a up and running only fans account

01:07:36.100 and i wouldn't recommend going on it uh but if you go on her twitter page she is still just for

01:07:42.340 free posting full frontal nudes of herself that's disappointing on there as well which begs the

01:07:49.460 question of how sincere this kind of uh rededication to her faith is and did she stop her only fans no

01:07:58.820 because i you'd expect if that was uh something that was genuine she would stop right the only

01:08:05.460 fans i mean is that is that from a theological perspective no she's not is it it's still like

01:08:10.260 is it too it's still active so if you can indulge me this is what i said when i heard that she got

01:08:14.980 baptized uh praise the lord may she have a sound spiritual director who advises her to stay off

01:08:20.660 social media indefinitely instead of promoting these only funds whores every time they set a

01:08:25.540 degenerate record we should pray for all harlots to turn to christ civilized nations should ban only

01:08:31.620 funds so i'm with you entirely yeah but i didn't know she was still doing this she's she's still doing

01:08:36.500 it and she's still posting some like previews for free on her twitter page she made a statement about

01:08:44.100 it in one of these insufferable videos where they talk to camera while doing their makeup

01:08:48.500 and she says that she's still doing it she's not doing any of the major stunts anymore but she's

01:08:53.540 still doing that so maybe she stepped it back a little bit but she's saying that she's also still

01:08:58.820 pro-gay marriage she's still pro-abortion she's not christian she said that she was unhappy because

01:09:05.380 she didn't please everyone well that was samson i've sent you only a thousand people uh yeah i've

01:09:11.700 sent you samson the low to see the segment we did about this it was with harry and josh

01:09:17.940 maybe you can just upload it for people to see just for the record there's no such thing as a

01:09:21.940 re-baptism it's impossible every single denomination recognizes everyone else's baptism if you're

01:09:27.220 baptized in water and the spirit if you're baptized in the name of the holy trinity you're a part of the

01:09:32.100 church you can't get re-baptized it's actually a heresy yeah but this this all the if i were there

01:09:39.220 are two paths that you can take with uh examining something like this which is you can take the

01:09:44.660 cynical path or you can take a more positive path on this and the cynical path is that this is just a

01:09:53.220 thing that some of these girls do now they try they make as much money as possible putting themselves

01:10:00.260 through this exhibiting themselves in public on the internet and then they decide that they want to

01:10:07.380 take the money without the responsibility and so they decide i'm going to get baptized

01:10:11.460 or re-baptized i'm going to return to my faith and i'm going to try to present myself as virtuous

01:10:17.780 interestingly enough lily phillips hasn't even tried that she's just gone oh by the way i'm a christian

01:10:22.740 anyway back to sucking dick on camera um or the positive side of it could be that this could be a

01:10:31.780 first step for her if i'm going to try and be positive about it clearly what she has put herself

01:10:39.780 through has broken part of her it was in an interview that i read reading up on this that she said that

01:10:47.540 in the past few months she had felt a need to connect with and speak to god again which suggests

01:10:54.020 to me that after going through all of these stunts she knew that she had degraded herself and that she

01:11:00.260 knew that she was making herself miserable and had maybe put herself on the wrong path now this is all

01:11:06.340 subject to be re-examined in a year's time we'll see if this does end up being a positive step for her

01:11:13.060 but it was because of that it seems that she felt the need to reconnect with her faith and perhaps

01:11:18.980 surrounding herself with positive influences in the church they can start to pull her away from

01:11:25.540 carrying on down this path especially because it is um less than great religiously as a christian for

01:11:34.740 her to continue behaving this way because she is also acting as a conduit and as a piece of publicity

01:11:41.060 for other girls to start doing the same thing and one of the things that we've discussed on this show

01:11:46.020 before as well is that women like lily phillips and bonnie blue when they challenge one another

01:11:52.420 especially with bonnie blue all of a sudden being promoted as connor pointed out with the spectator

01:11:58.260 article she's currently she's a farage supporter now and she's a reform you challenge now every reform

01:12:04.260 voter in election period listen if you wanna this is why i'm not voting reform stelios still on the fence he's

01:12:10.820 not decided yet clearly before you move on because you're right to be charitable you're right to be

01:12:14.340 generous and there are there are two people that need to help people like lily phillips one of them

01:12:18.660 is us we need to be praying for her as christians we need to be praying for all of these harlots to

01:12:22.580 come to christ the second person is her priest he should be telling her that you cannot be living this

01:12:28.980 life and be a christian you cannot say actually i still support same-sex marriage and abortion i'm

01:12:33.540 still going to suck dick on camera you can't do that stuff and be a christian and the fact that he's

01:12:38.180 had his face blurred out shows me he's not actually being forthright he's not being there and saying

01:12:43.220 you're going to choose one or the other you can be you can be all of it now as a modern christian in

01:12:46.980 the cv you can do that stuff the liberal christianity needs to die yeah um have we verified and by we

01:12:54.260 have don't say we on this panel generally speaking have people verified that this baptism has taken place

01:12:59.780 because exactly the the blurred face on the priest pastor is uh is uh a bit i mean it could be a set

01:13:09.700 vicious it it could be a set but so far there doesn't seem any reason to believe that this isn't

01:13:17.620 actually what she believes that she does believe in god and that she considers herself a christian yeah

01:13:22.820 and then she has there on the profile let's f and then world record slaza well exactly this is why

01:13:29.460 you can take the cynical route and say that this is insincere it's a publicity stunt etc etc but i i'm

01:13:35.700 saying that you can take the two paths i'm not saying which one uh that i'm taking but no matter what

01:13:42.020 she needs to stop this people need to stop promoting it because what i was going to say people like her and

01:13:46.660 bonnie blue also act as an advertisement for foreign men coming into this country loads and

01:13:52.500 loads of foreign men particularly of middle eastern extraction and i'm talking about india pakistan the

01:13:59.460 rest of the middle east afghanistan they will only know and have experience of white women through

01:14:05.940 platforms like only fans and through pornography so they have this preconceived idea in their heads

01:14:12.980 that blonde-haired blue-eyed women are all whores because women like bonnie blue and lily phillips

01:14:21.700 put videos of themselves online sleeping with hordes and hordes of men in the videos that you saw of

01:14:29.460 people lining up for those kinds of events people made a lot of note about the fact that a lot of the

01:14:34.340 men in those queues seemed to be middle eastern seemed to be pakistani and so they get this idea from these

01:14:42.340 women all white women are whores come to england come to europe and you'll be able to have as much

01:14:48.820 sex with all of the whorish women that you want as is allowed and encouraged within your religious texts

01:14:56.180 and then when they get over here and it turns out actually they're not quite so forthcoming as you were

01:15:02.020 led to believe obviously i'm not saying that it's the only factor but it's definitely a factor in drawing

01:15:07.940 these men in and making it so that they expect that these women will be whores for them and do

01:15:14.980 whatever they want and behave that way that's not to take away their agency that's not to suggest they

01:15:20.340 wouldn't behave like that anyway because they certainly would we know that from the pakistani rape

01:15:26.100 gangs but it's certainly a factor drawing them in and that's where i want to come to something else if we

01:15:32.260 were to take the less cynical route i was very cynical initially when this woman nala ray became

01:15:39.220 the poster child for this kind of thing and i was very very worried that she had done a few years on

01:15:44.420 only fans made millions of dollars and then decided to convert and stop for for good publicity so that

01:15:51.940 she would be able to basically take the money and run without taking the responsibility and i can still

01:15:58.340 say that there is uh some cynicism here but there is something else that she speaks about that i'll

01:16:06.580 get onto in a moment which is the really dark side that pushes that that draws a lot of these women

01:16:11.780 into this because you've got to understand a lot of girls understand implicitly whether or not they

01:16:18.180 want to take the liberal feminist line of supporting it oh it's all about girl power we can do what we want

01:16:23.540 we don't have to take responsibility yada yada there is a real dark side to this which is what goes on in

01:16:30.100 a lot of these girls youths what happened in their childhood how they've been manipulated and groomed by

01:16:36.820 sometimes their own family members like bonnie blue is quite notorious that her own family

01:16:43.140 is her management it's very weird parents yeah it's very weird uh for people who act in such ways to

01:16:49.700 have a any normal any father background any father who can stand beside his daughter and help arrange

01:16:58.340 and manage her career when this is her career has something very suspicious about him as far as i'm

01:17:06.260 concerned that's my own personal views but still i don't look at a man like that um i don't look at a

01:17:14.260 man like that without suspicion right and that's one of the other news things that's come up recently is

01:17:18.740 this girl i'd never heard of her before but this news story started popping up in places where i

01:17:24.020 could see it which was teen influencer piper rockelle says only fans changed her life after eye-watering

01:17:31.380 day one earnings and this is the kind of headline that i say is being used to draw these women in

01:17:36.260 to draw young girls in you hit 18 start on the first day if you've got if you've got an internet

01:17:42.580 personality already if you've got a following imagine how many creeps in your audience are going to want to

01:17:48.580 sign up straight away because that's what they've been watching for you in the first place and this

01:17:53.220 is one of the big dangers of girls on the internet when they're children and teenagers in the first

01:17:58.340 place is there are so many creeps out there who are just following them so that they can perv on

01:18:03.940 them and this is rewarding those people as well as uh as well buying by encouraging it by knowing that

01:18:11.700 oh as soon as they turn 18 oh i'll be able to get the good stuff then but this is a situation where this

01:18:17.380 girl had been a a youtube influencer since she was eight years old right she had been uh managed by

01:18:27.460 her mother tiffany smith and in a now deleted x post raquel shared a screenshot of her day one

01:18:34.340 earnings it was something like two yeah 2.9 million dollars and she's so young so she lacks the

01:18:41.300 majority in wisdom to realize turned 18 is her mother still managing her yes yes

01:18:46.980 that's sick and this is some pretty pretty depraved stuff ahead of her only fans launch raquel uploaded

01:18:53.540 an instagram video with her grandmother predicting that she would make two million dollars in her

01:18:59.860 first day so her own grandmother is involved and on board with this as well and this is a girl who'd

01:19:07.220 been put on the internet from a very very young age managed entirely by her mother and the rest of her

01:19:14.180 family they need arresting for grooming realistically they have groomed their own daughter and to

01:19:20.100 haul her out for a couple million dollars but that's what it appears right now but also even more

01:19:25.540 worryingly raquel is known for the 2022 scandal involving her mother which became the subject of

01:19:31.060 a netflix docu-series bad influence the dark side of kid fluency following her daughter's rise to fame

01:19:37.300 smith created the squad enlisting several other fellow child influencers to start collaborating on

01:19:43.700 videos smith was later sued by 11 former squad members for alleged quote emotional verbal physical

01:19:49.540 and at times sexual abuse while creating content for the latter's youtube channel to this day raquel has

01:19:57.300 remained loyal to her mother insisting that she did not do any of those things that they said and i'll

01:20:02.660 stand by my mom to the end the lawsuit eventually was settled outside of court with both parties

01:20:08.900 agreeing to a 1.8 million dollar settlement i want to say that one of the greatest myths

01:20:15.620 uh which actually really bad i'm not saying it's good but it's it's a it's a myth that is really

01:20:21.060 influential is that which says that every parent loves their children children unfortunately it's not

01:20:27.700 true sadly some like this parent evidently just saw her child as an asset to make money off of

01:20:35.060 and other people's children it seems yeah as well and take advantage of them and who knows i mean it's

01:20:39.700 suggested that in some pretty awful ways so a lot of these girls who are being put onto these platforms

01:20:46.740 at a very very young age are not coming from good backgrounds they have very damaged backgrounds they

01:20:52.580 have very toxic parents very bad relationships with the people around them and that's where i come

01:20:58.100 back to nala ray and again i i understand people who are still very cynical about her who don't trust that

01:21:05.700 this is necessarily sincere but at the very least from what is being reported she does seem to actually

01:21:13.460 be trying to do something positive off of the back of her conversion and also to try and prevent

01:21:20.420 other girls from going onto the platform and it talks about here how she is an outspoken anti-pornography

01:21:27.700 advocate following it and it talks about her past here and you can say that this is a sob story or

01:21:32.740 whatever but the fact is a lot of these girls will have similar backgrounds so it talks about how

01:21:38.900 her father and her mother they lost their house in a hurricane when she was like six years old her

01:21:46.340 father then went on to have an affair left the family came back to the family converted to baptism

01:21:53.060 became a priest and then she had difficult problems with those churches but then her dad took in a

01:21:59.300 16 year old boy letting him live in their home the boy molested ray when she was 13 and the abuse continued

01:22:06.820 for months until he ran away one night ray says neither she nor her family have heard from him since

01:22:13.300 good riddance although he should be locked up in prison if not worse and she says that it was that

01:22:19.780 kind of thing her problems with the church her emotional problems as a result of what happened

01:22:25.300 to her that led her to jump onto only fans when it was just starting as a platform and she said that

01:22:30.420 there was this feedback loop that came into it she jumps onto it and then all of a sudden she starts

01:22:35.140 earning money and she says as the earnings ramped up so did the pressure to make more gratuitous content

01:22:40.260 and this is another feedback loop that we've spoken about before the desensitization that these

01:22:45.540 things become normal and this is both on the men consuming this stuff it dulls your senses things

01:22:51.700 that were once extreme aren't extreme anymore so you go into this loop where you end up getting into

01:22:56.980 more and more deranged stuff this is where you've seen platforms like like porn hub when they were exposed

01:23:03.460 by um what's his name the guy who goes undercover and sends people to do undercover uh camera recordings

01:23:10.580 um veritas yeah james o'keefe yeah yeah where people like him and some i've forgotten her name there was

01:23:19.380 the um the uh american woman a few years ago who um did the expose on some of the porn hub producers where they

01:23:27.300 said that they were pushing their algorithms in such a way to try and encourage young boys to go

01:23:33.300 on to gay and trans pornography because again you say well they're not gay so they're not going to get

01:23:38.340 into it well actually they've been desensitized to this stuff and if it's being constantly pushed in

01:23:43.860 their face just to seek that thrill they might click on it that's how these algorithms work to try

01:23:49.300 and push onto it but this is the feedback but it also works for these people as well the creators

01:23:54.660 because they're pushed to make these this gratuitous content she says and she says that she ended up

01:23:59.460 relying on marijuana and alcohol to get through particularly tough filming days anything she said

01:24:06.020 to numb herself so that's a pretty horrible thing to put yourself through even if you are making millions

01:24:12.420 of dollars off of it because ultimately you the humiliation you're putting yourself through

01:24:16.820 makes you realize that you're treating yourself as an object you're destroying all of your self-worth

01:24:22.020 and ask yourself you know as a father as a brother as a son the women in your life even if they were

01:24:28.340 making millions and millions of dollars you don't want them to put them through that put themselves

01:24:32.740 through that either there's more to life than money there certainly is and uh ray now says that

01:24:37.620 she still has a lot of empathy for the women who do only fans though she disagrees with their actions

01:24:42.260 she knows that many girls have struggled that in ways that few will ever understand she says i have

01:24:48.020 a heart for the only fans girls not only because i was one but i saw it so many girls were like oh my

01:24:53.620 dad abused me my stepdad tried to do things with me i don't have a dad my dad ran away my mom hates me

01:24:59.140 i heard it all behavior is a symptom of what's really going on underneath right hurt damages people

01:25:04.580 so bad and shame will lead you into things that you have never thought that you would do

01:25:09.300 usually comes from a dysfunctional family when they ask for it she now helps guide people through the

01:25:14.340 process of quitting only fans she recalls one model who deleted her account after flying to

01:25:19.700 tennessee to have a heart to heart with her in person so i actually think that's the probably

01:25:25.780 the best way that she can go about using the influence that she has gained from her notoriety

01:25:31.300 in the first place and it does seem that she has tried to take on a legitimate and sincere path

01:25:36.740 to redemption i hope that she sticks on that path and i hope that lily phillips in kind of

01:25:42.660 rededicating herself to her faith even if it is only half-heartedly right now or insincerely you

01:25:48.180 might argue i can only hope that she's taking a positive step on this path and that this will lead

01:25:55.140 to her abandoning it and disavowing it in the future and i can only hope the same for all of these women

01:26:01.380 but really the most effective way of preventing this would be cutting it off at the source and for

01:26:08.100 governments across the world to take action against platforms like only fans which do encourage this

01:26:13.780 behavior purely for the sake of profit they're not caring about women's liberation they don't care

01:26:20.500 you at home who might watch this and say god damn it i have the god-given right to goon you do not

01:26:29.060 have the god-given right to goon first of all but second the companies promoting this stuff and pushing it

01:26:35.380 that damages your brain it literally reduces the white matter in your brain rewires the neural

01:26:41.380 pathways in your head they are not doing it for the sake of your liberation they're using it as a

01:26:47.220 form of thought control they're using it as a form of degeneration and they're using it to make money

01:26:53.060 off of you you do not have to invest your personal ego to defend this stuff just because you feel that

01:27:00.420 it's embarrassing to have partaken in it in the first place we've all done stuff that at the end

01:27:06.020 of it we feel ashamed of but you don't have to support this this is societal poison for this to be

01:27:12.580 an option for young girls to take as soon as they hit 18 especially when the kind of girls doing it are

01:27:19.380 already damaged they do not need this they need proper help this is not helping them it's not helping

01:27:26.340 you these platforms need to be properly assaulted by the states not half-hearted measures that are

01:27:34.500 just using uh using stuff like the online safety act to actually crack down on political dissidents

01:27:41.060 rather than actually protecting people from these kinds of vices you have plenty of obscenity laws

01:27:47.700 plenty of public decency laws already on the books that could be used to crack down on these things

01:27:53.060 uh but i do hope that these girls can find some kind of redemption sincerely i hope that they can

01:27:59.620 find better and more wholesome ways to live their lives there's always a way i i find it sad because

01:28:04.820 you're absolutely spot on harry but you're sitting here teaching people why it's bad for them right

01:28:08.980 for the men to be gooning for the women to be prostituting it's because we've lost all sense of what

01:28:13.300 sin is as a christian nation we used to understand things were morally good and morally evil things were

01:28:17.860 good for us and bad for us pornography is bad for us both the men and the women it is wicked it's

01:28:23.860 demonic it's it affects your brain chemistry it affects your soul the trauma of it is not good for

01:28:28.500 the men or the women it needs to be banned well just just just think like how many men i'm sure

01:28:33.940 everybody has personal experience report that after you're done watching after you're done feeling that

01:28:40.180 wave of humiliation and shame come over them right that's literally your body giving you a feedback

01:28:46.900 saying shouldn't have done that that wasn't a good thing to do the thing is like the the whole idea of

01:28:53.060 old biblical vices the more that science does research into them the more it's vindicated that

01:28:59.220 they are actual vices the way that they negatively affect your body and your mind god gave us a conscience

01:29:04.820 he gave us intuition we should trust our gut when something feels wrong most of the time there's

01:29:09.300 something wrong about it that we sense that we can't articulate yeah anyway do we have any video

01:29:14.500 comments yes all right all right i'll i'll go through a couple of these uh ryan hennigan i will be

01:29:24.820 founding father calvin's anti-unit nudging nudge unit

01:29:31.860 do not enable these people and shame those who do look back in contempt uh luke harry she's doing a

01:29:37.700 typical woman thing trying to avoid accountability if she truly was repentant she should have given

01:29:42.500 all the money she's making from only fans and donate it to a child charity like ezekiel are you

01:29:47.540 referring to lily phillips or nala ray because i do agree that nala ray should make charitable

01:29:52.180 donations with the money that she made lily phillips for the time being i do think that it seems quite

01:29:58.100 cynical but i can hope that it will maybe if she surrounds herself with the right and virtuous people

01:30:03.220 that she can be nudged onto a better path and not to interrupt but repentance is always possible

01:30:08.500 redemption is always possible just repent of your sins embrace jesus christ and you are saved it's as

01:30:13.300 simple as that based ape i hate whores as much as the next man but she did say during the documentary

01:30:18.660 that most of her clients were her dad's mates and i didn't hear a single person demand that man was

01:30:23.780 investigated yeah that's creepy that's what i mean like it's encouraging people's pervy behavior like

01:30:30.020 the same with this teenage influencer like all of the men all of the pervs that would have been

01:30:34.180 watching her purely for the sake of perving on a teen girl and don't tell me for a second that her

01:30:39.620 mother and the rest of the management don't know that that's a significant portion of the viewer base

01:30:45.060 that they're playing to i mean come on everybody knows uh yeah that's it's encouraging this kind of

01:30:50.660 behavior in men as well that's why i'm saying like don't let anybody off the hook involved in any of

01:30:56.260 this frankly not just the string i believe i recall a lot of only fan subscribers are supposed to be

01:31:02.180 married probably a lot of sexless slash lonely marriages that need some counseling ai destroying

01:31:07.220 this industry will at least be less disgusting yeah but that's not that's not going to help the

01:31:11.940 situation ultimately is it uh especially because like if those wives find out that what they're

01:31:18.260 subscribing to that's not going to help the marriage that's not going to help the marriage at all

01:31:22.260 and uh that's a random name i think i know why lily kept her thing open after all that second

01:31:27.780 baptism is cute and all but the uh and a very very crass joke grim and another one montreal where

01:31:37.220 i live is the headquarters of alo aka mind geek aka porn hub the company's owners live in lavish mansions

01:31:44.420 the money behind this industry is insane and that's what i'm saying like like uh people don't

01:31:49.540 understand i think e michael jones uh who i'm very critical of in many different ways sound but he

01:31:56.980 does make some great arguments against pornography like he made the point in um uh in his book on the

01:32:04.020 history of the pornography industry that like when you defend these people for the sake of like liberty

01:32:09.620 you are not defending your own liberty you're defending their right to take advantage of you and make money

01:32:15.700 taking advantage of you you're working for their interests you're not working for your own you will

01:32:21.140 feel so much better in yourself and you'll be in so much more control of yourself if you choose to take

01:32:27.220 a path of virtuous restraint instead of just indulging like modern society throws all of this stuff at you

01:32:34.740 it wants you it wants you obsessed with this stuff it wants you thinking about this stuff all of the

01:32:40.180 time because it's a way to control your thoughts it's a way to control your mind it's a way to win

01:32:46.100 you on side by getting you personally invested in their money making schemes so um so em jones will

01:32:53.060 address something that i don't think we're going to address today but uh the coincidence of who owns

01:32:57.540 that industry the the predominant demographic that runs that industry and he's looking into too sorry

01:33:02.580 masturbating yourself to porn is bad pay someone to do it for you instead harry i don't remember saying

01:33:08.740 that during the segment but uh but yeah i mean i'd say if you can get a girlfriend you will end up

01:33:16.420 still paying for it that way but it's uh more get married get married have children yeah yeah earlier

01:33:22.820 the link that you couldn't view was one one to fifty partners equals twenty percent divorce rate and

01:33:27.540 that's binary server six to ten equals twenty two percent ten to twenty thirty three percent twenty

01:33:33.140 to fifty sixty two percent fifty plus ninety eight percent divorce rate so we were looking at some

01:33:40.260 stats earlier or talking about some stats i looked it up two percent of all young girls in generation z

01:33:44.740 are on only fans you looked at those are those because i've seen much higher statistics cited but the

01:33:51.540 sources for them were very very dubious two percent sadly still a lot it does sound more it does sound

01:33:59.060 more realistic all right let's uh play the video comment shall we samson

01:34:21.860 okay that was a good one that was exactly how it went down ai is insane if they want if if the

01:34:27.140 american imperialists want to win me over they need to actually genetically engineer that jd vance and

01:34:33.140 then clone him on mass yeah and he can be the new american armed forces then maybe you'd win me over

01:34:40.020 guys uh next one samson

01:34:59.540 uh given that i was on the gold tier i can confirm that true that's true my missus keeps telling me oh

01:35:06.420 the fallout show is not too bad you don't eat like i thought it was all right i enjoyed the first

01:35:10.820 series and i'm just thinking like don't get me started don't it was okay wasn't it the first

01:35:16.740 carl and scotty were not impressed i'm not a fallout anybody like just ask callum right anybody who likes

01:35:23.540 new vegas and appreciates the new vegas law knows that bethesda is just trying to shit all over it man

01:35:31.540 like they they take they created something accidentally based and now want to retract it

01:35:36.820 is i don't even know if new vegas was accidentally based because right you like if you align yourself

01:35:42.020 with mr house his arguments are just the most well reasoned ultimately he just makes the most sense

01:35:48.500 interesting i'll have to get around to playing it i've had so many recommendations uh we'll just go

01:35:53.140 through some of the comments quickly then uh jan have he says welcome back lads happy new year

01:35:58.100 hope you all had fun very interesting situation to open the new year best of luck uh to all of us

01:36:04.340 for whatever comes ahead absolutely jan have a happy new year uh rick uh monarch kingdom uh says great

01:36:11.140 to see father calvin deus fault god bless you yes and uh sneeder chuck says good to see father

01:36:17.860 calvin once again with the lotus eaters crew the good news uh just uh keeps on coming also nice to see

01:36:23.700 that stelios was not trapped in the greek airport and that's a breakfast with a reference i wasn't

01:36:29.940 trapped no breakfast with those already having its own references they've already got insider memes

01:36:35.220 that we're not part of roman observer says is father calvin here to perform the last right for

01:36:41.460 rule-based international order absolutely um richard schmier says you can't just open quotes you can

01:36:50.660 just go on and have no casualties on your side without any help close quotes no you can't america

01:36:57.620 can you need to get that through your head harry all right i'm sure i'm sure you can just like kidnap

01:37:03.220 the sitting president of any country anywhere with no casualties with no help on the inside yeah okay

01:37:09.700 sure thing we're gonna have to spend that bottle and try it uh brewer says the issue with congress is

01:37:15.460 that they leak information like a screen door in a submarine so i get why they don't get notified

01:37:21.620 and lord inquisitor hector x the elites don't want you to know this but the dictators at the park are

01:37:26.660 free you can just take them i have 453 dictators at home it's quite funny uh sam weston from my segment

01:37:36.180 says for these eurocrats it's a case of desperate despotism justifies the means they want absolute

01:37:42.580 control and they hate anything they cannot control not having the power scares them if it means

01:37:48.580 creating an uh anarchic tyranny and and or a petty vindictive bureaucracy to keep people under their

01:37:55.860 thumb they will happily destroy people's lives for the sake of power uh yeah well well said sam don't

01:38:02.180 worry we've got both anarchic tyranny and a nice petty vindictive yes they've been very very busy these past

01:38:08.900 decades russian garbage human a fatherless society and its consequences have been a disaster for the

01:38:14.580 human race true omar award any redemption requires introspection a four-digit bottle body count is a

01:38:21.060 lot of sin and will need an equal amount of repentance to show sincerity it's easy to seek forgiveness from

01:38:26.180 god but it will be a much longer journey for lily to forgive herself and whoever brought her into it

01:38:32.100 and yeah i i do agree i think it's it's on her to be able to look into herself and uh try and work

01:38:38.820 through all of the i know this is a massively overused word today but i can't imagine that you

01:38:46.420 get ran through by over a thousand men in less than a day without incurring some pretty heavy personal

01:38:52.740 mental trauma uh because like like you said luca that's the kind of thing that used to happen to

01:38:58.820 women who had been captured by mongol horns and there's still a part of your psychology and biology

01:39:03.940 there's programmed to treat it as such so that's pretty horrible sophie live something men don't

01:39:09.300 understand is just how insecure we women are by nature i understand very well thank you uh that is

01:39:14.740 why we seek validation maybe by asking us if a dress uh makes us look fat but obviously the given

01:39:23.140 validation through social media has been has just been horrific it isn't just about money it's actually less

01:39:28.020 about the money and the addiction to validation feedback loop that is definitely a part of it

01:39:32.660 someone online when jesus rescued the whores in rome he told them to go and sin no more she has to

01:39:38.100 actually stop yes i agree bound from warhawk the true test of lily phillips is she needs to delete

01:39:43.940 her social media and go offline prove her redemption until then she is still a whore well overtly so she's

01:39:49.300 still doing this even if she's not going quite as overt as she used to in how outlandish the stunts are

01:39:54.980 she's still doing it george hap prostitutes who adopt a supposed trad christian persona have just

01:39:59.940 hit the wall and want to double dip on the internet frame there's endless christian grace of accepting

01:40:04.500 and promoting them as some sort of great redemption story is why trad cons are a joke they haven't

01:40:08.580 returned the money they earned from porn and that tells you everything i completely agree with uh um

01:40:14.020 a lot of them if it just turns into a social media uh publicity stunt strategy then that's bad but at the

01:40:20.820 very least from what i was able to find out about what nala ray is doing she does seem to be trying

01:40:24.820 to tell to people and try to get them off the platform as well and outside of the platform being

01:40:30.740 shut down entirely and support being given from outside i do think that that's probably the best

01:40:35.540 thing that she can do with her influence that she's got from it uh so i don't want to be too cynical

01:40:42.020 against her because right now um she seems to be actually sincere in it so uh just wrap up with

01:40:50.660 these honorable mentions can i say before before this ed milliband harnessing enoch spinning grave says

01:40:57.620 never go on never goon oh yeah he said he spoke the opposite uh typical subversive hitchens what

01:41:11.540 can we say i did like seeing omar sophie and derek and some of the older regulars on there as well it's

01:41:15.940 good to see you guys oh yeah it's always good to have the regulars uh yeah um a microdebelber says

01:41:21.540 good to see father calvin on the podcast have you left the us behind father or are you just visiting

01:41:26.260 old friends i'm just visiting old friends and family at the moment thank you i'll be back soon

01:41:29.940 uh someone online says sith harry just wanted to play video games listen re-watching the prequel

01:41:35.940 trilogy it was great to see a series where the good guys win in the end yeah we'll have to have a

01:41:40.820 longer conversation but also sith harry mass watch dune all right all right did the good guys win in

01:41:47.860 that one too but the jedis were the bad guys i'm with you on that exactly no honestly man it's part

01:41:53.460 of the discussion we need to have this out just like watching revenge of the sith again it was like

01:41:57.860 no wonder no wonder anakin did what he did because anakin's there going like i've got abandonment

01:42:04.340 issues from being separated from my mother at a young age then next time i saw her after i left

01:42:09.380 she died in my arms now i'm being tormented by dreams that my loved ones will uh are actually portman

01:42:16.420 will die yeah if i don't get my loved ones are gonna die and yoda's just there like i'll get

01:42:21.540 over it bro get over it just get rid of your worldly possessions at least palpatine actually listened to

01:42:26.820 him right and let's not forget let's not forget they were like the jedi were literally going to take

01:42:33.700 power when they usurped palpatine there's the scene where mace windu's like we're gonna need to take

01:42:38.820 power to ensure to ensure a transitional peace okay all right yeah sure you guys tell yourselves

01:42:46.580 whatever you want if you want to justify taking power from palpatine oh he was a sith lord he brought

01:42:52.100 peace and prosperity to the galactic empire thank you very much we will make a longer conversation

01:42:56.980 out of this for now viewers uh also just to say uh firas's take on venezuela will be up on the

01:43:03.460 website at 3pm you can go watch his realpolitik uh and we look forward to seeing you on the podcast

01:43:09.780 at 1pm tomorrow have a good things we're asking for it

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