The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters it is number 1331 can you believe that

00:00:05.600 it's been a long time it's five years odd isn't it now yeah um it's tuesday the 13th of january

00:00:10.900 2026 i'm joined by carl benjamin hello all right i'm all right and today we're going to talk about

00:00:16.920 uh liberal white women are not okay why they're not okay we'll get into that uh um i'm going to 0.93

00:00:25.140 talk about um also they do the strange death of crypto twitter yeah but this is this is good 0.90

00:00:31.520 because it tells us about how the twitter algorithm works and it's actually honestly the crypto guys

00:00:37.000 are taking it really badly but it kind of makes sense i don't know much about it so i'm going to

00:00:41.080 be learning in real time with you and i'm going to do a segment all about um the latest defection to

00:00:47.400 reform of that boris chancellor fella iraqi born dude we're going to talk about that yeah why why

00:00:53.560 what's the thinking behind that how does that how is that in their interests all right so should we

00:00:58.660 just jump straight in we know we should chill islander first oh islander magazine it's the

00:01:04.200 best magazine get it now buy it to be fair while stocks last uh yeah no no this so this is the fastest

00:01:11.780 selling issue of islander that we've had uh and it is also the best so uh there is a limited print run

00:01:17.540 on it get it while you can because every day i get people can i get a copy of islander two or one

00:01:22.280 no you can't once it's gone it's gone we're never reprinting them there are a moment in history

00:01:27.060 you have to be there for it and if you weren't there for it well that has always been your line

00:01:31.900 on it hasn't it 100 um like well scarcity creates value doesn't it it's not just that though it is

00:01:38.280 i mean that if that were the case why wouldn't we sell it for more right um 15 quid is actually not

00:01:44.240 that much but like it's it's more that they represent a moment in time that we were living through

00:01:49.460 right part of the story i mean the entire issue is about heroism and the the thing about heroism

00:01:55.280 is predicated on narratives right you don't have a hero unless you have a narrative and i want people

00:01:59.600 to start thinking of themselves in heroic terms as in you are part of a narrative your story of yourself

00:02:05.320 your story of your civilization all of these things matter and islander the policy of not

00:02:10.920 reprinting islander has always been a part of that so look this event in your story you know if

00:02:16.200 you've been there from the beginning then you can chart like how you you can feel how the story

00:02:21.140 has been told throughout the process and the way the winds were blowing and how like for example the

00:02:26.280 third issue of islander it if you go back and think about the the kind of mindset the mood of the people

00:02:31.620 we were in a bit of a depression there you know it's like things were looking quite bleak and so it's

00:02:36.760 the wintry edition where like you know we're in the nadir and you can feel us coming out actually

00:02:41.900 there's progress that has been made right we're actually things are getting stronger the right is

00:02:46.840 getting more powerful and the argument from our side is going everywhere now i don't know whether

00:02:52.060 you noticed but elon just retweeted my interview on andrew gold literally like 10 minutes before we

00:02:56.660 came on the podcast saying a very reasonable position where i'm basically explaining look the

00:03:00.060 english have a right to say no we've had enough right and so it's like compared to where we were for 0.72

00:03:04.640 islander 3 where we felt that we were in the wilderness and the depths of winter right we've come a long

00:03:09.980 way and so yeah the sort of you know the heroic aspect you're like the the point is the whole the

00:03:15.400 the thing tells a meta story and this is why we don't reprint it it's not just being so i mean if

00:03:21.320 we're being cynical we'd keep it on sale all the time so we could continue making sales long because

00:03:25.880 they're evergreen essays in it they're not just like you know they're not they're not about breaking

00:03:31.580 news it's about the psyche of the west but anyway that's why you should go and get it it's an

00:03:36.680 amazing thing and uh you won't be able to get it in the future anyway and elon when are you coming

00:03:40.680 on always welcome elon anyway so let's let's uh let's move on so um liberal white women have always 1.00

00:03:49.400 had a strange way of engaging with politics now i want to be really clear that i am specifically

00:03:56.500 delineating a subsection of this demographic right so white women in america in general i think at the

00:04:05.640 last uh election broke 56 percent for trump so most white women in america are right wing or vote 1.00

00:04:13.360 right wing and voted for trump uh and then you've got about a third of uh so it roughly breaks down

00:04:20.320 into thirds in america you've got a third republican third democrat and then third swing voters

00:04:24.700 independents uh and so trump got 56 percent of white women and then out of the 44 percent a section of 1.00

00:04:33.880 that probably something like 15 20 something like that are independent swing voters and then you're

00:04:38.560 into the sort of like hardcore democrat leaning women uh and then out of those you're going to have 1.00

00:04:45.280 about eight to ten percent who are like hardcore activists people who are completely completely bought

00:04:51.660 in to all of the narratives all of the ideology of leftism and we see this quite a lot they they come

00:04:59.000 out and they're quite active a lot of the time where they'll dress in their handmaid's tales

00:05:04.160 outfits again they they just create such stunning right-wing propaganda uh yes yes that's that sounds

00:05:11.580 brilliant i'm up for liberal women being put in the handmaid's tale and clearly they are too 1.00

00:05:16.520 um it all has a kind of psychosexual dynamic to it um what a weird thing i've never read

00:05:23.580 the books or watched the tv films although i'm still aware of the general narrative of the show

00:05:29.180 and i know that but you've got to be pretty far gone to dress up and turn up in public like that

00:05:34.400 right i mean what are you thinking i mean you're thinking you're under the heel of patriarchy

00:05:40.620 well yeah well yeah forcibly impregnated to keep the human race going uh which obviously um isn't

00:05:48.060 happening and it is is not happening until next year project 2025 so i don't know what you're

00:05:54.660 worried about right no it obviously this is um ludicrous extreme left-wing liberal women who view 1.00

00:06:01.960 any uh infringement on the power and ability of women to do anything they want as a form of 1.00

00:06:08.600 oppression as in what abortion that's just health care isn't it i should be able to kill as many babies 1.00

00:06:13.800 no no no that that's a murder like you've just killed a baby and you conceived of the baby 0.99

00:06:18.500 willingly you knew what you were getting you knew this was a potential outcome when you had sex 0.74

00:06:22.240 unprotected and now you want to commit a murder because you're upset that this will change your

00:06:26.700 life sorry i'm not down for that actually you know especially not up until the point of birth and

00:06:31.440 of course this is this is demented actually and these women are like right this is just like the 1.00

00:06:36.120 handmaid's tale it's like uh no the the problem is you where's your husband oh you don't have a

00:06:41.580 husband right okay so they've lost all perspective by this stage yeah it seems to me exactly they've

00:06:48.420 lost all reason they've lost all perspective and this is coming back home now after the uh the 0.79

00:06:53.320 killing of renee good the white liberal women extremists are not taking well now i don't want 1.00

00:07:00.920 to go over the actual events of renee good that's not what i'm talking about it's the reaction to that 0.88

00:07:04.800 um because uh it's very split very very split the republicans are like well she was in a car and

00:07:12.340 she accelerated and clipped this ice agent and therefore he in the moment felt as if he was

00:07:19.800 under attack i mean he'd already been dragged previously by someone else and so he drew his gun

00:07:24.580 and shot her in self-defense and of course the democrats are like well she was trying to turn away

00:07:29.440 maybe she didn't mean to clip him whatever i'm sure she didn't uh this is an act of murder it's like

00:07:34.660 well okay but what's she doing playing with fire anyway right and why is she even there shouldn't 1.00

00:07:40.420 she be at home well yeah why why is she even there why isn't she just following instructions right you're 0.74

00:07:45.500 not actually at liberty to leave when you're being detained right so like what why are you playing with

00:07:50.060 firing you know and so whether you're on either side of this it doesn't really matter um what matters

00:07:56.120 is how you what you take away from it and a lot of them are freaking out i mean like we'll just give an

00:08:00.560 example you see the point right yeah she's kind of losing it well ed dutton makes a good point about

00:08:19.220 women like this is what in the 16th century people would call a witch yeah or not not even that she 1.00

00:08:28.040 these these women would be the hardcore christian flagellants right yes a good one they they would 1.00

00:08:34.100 be the ones walking through the streets whipping themselves or they would join the cathars become 0.97

00:08:38.340 the perfect ones and throw themselves into the fire that the there's always going to be a contingent

00:08:43.700 of women who are on the sort of radical ideological end of whatever is happening and so i mean with the 0.99

00:08:49.160 cathars in particular cathar heresy um it was an extreme for anyone doesn't know it's an extremely austere

00:08:54.700 christian heresy in the south of france in the 13th 14th and 15th centuries that sort of time period

00:09:00.820 um and it would it tended that women would convert to it and the main premise of the heresy is that

00:09:10.200 it stigmatized the material world everything about the material world was fallen and evil and the true

00:09:15.900 god was beyond that and so the ultimate aim of the cathar heresy is to essentially rescind yourself from

00:09:23.860 materialism entirely the material world entirely so the women become celibate and they eat you know 1.00

00:09:29.440 fish and vegetables and they spend their lives in prayer and in penitence and being in poverty and

00:09:36.280 things like this uh and when the crusaders decided right okay we've had enough of this they would just

00:09:41.940 willingly throw themselves on the pyre in order to uh sacrifice themselves for their religion and i think 0.75

00:09:48.340 that's the same kind of attitude that we're seeing here for anyone who might be interested on the

00:09:53.240 website the lotus eaters.com we did uh a bit all about simon de montford at one point on my show epochs

00:09:59.200 and simon de montford's father another simon de montford was involved in all of that yes then we

00:10:03.540 spend a good half hour don't we at least talking about that so it's a while and he's an absolute

00:10:07.640 chad so it's well worth your time but um but the the thing about this and this

00:10:12.760 you can see the pathology that these women have because this is why i'm comparing them to the sort 1.00

00:10:20.260 of the cathars or some sort of christian heretics is because they have taken an idea to its most

00:10:26.120 extreme now in previous eras yeah it would have been an extreme form of christianity but now it's

00:10:30.700 an extreme form of liberalism and so listen to this so i mean i'm just walking around kind of just

00:10:36.000 day side because we turn up a bit i was like i don't know if it's the right thing to do it feels

00:10:40.540 kind of wrong being here in some way i don't know why um why do you think yeah i don't know um i don't

00:10:47.940 know like where that stems from um like i don't i mean part of it is being like a white woman that 1.00

00:10:57.820 i'm privileged and i have a lot of privilege um so i feel like white tears are not always something

00:11:05.740 that's helpful or necessary um when black and brown people have been experiencing this yeah for a 0.90

00:11:11.540 long time um this isn't new for them and so um i don't know if that makes any sense in that way um

00:11:18.880 how did you decide that you should be here are you still figuring that out um well i work uh like

00:11:24.880 two miles from here so um driving by just i don't you know it's like i'm here um i'm two miles i can

00:11:32.580 stop um you can see she's she feels guilty crying over rennie good because she's a white woman

00:11:40.500 rennie good was a white woman and black and brown people have been dealing with this for a long time

00:11:45.220 and so she feels guilty about feeling sad for the woman that was killed by ice it's like okay

00:11:51.380 that's it's you are more than entitled to feel sad as a white woman because another white woman has been

00:11:59.200 killed and you feel like oh this is a handmaid's tale ice is going to come for me i you know somehow

00:12:04.600 it like that is mental right i just feel like this person whoever is it's just terribly terribly 0.55

00:12:10.520 confused it's like it almost suffering from some sort of psychosis or something like so terribly

00:12:17.180 i was gonna say fragile i know that's a word that's gets thrown around all the time or you're

00:12:23.300 fragile you're a snowflake i don't mean it like that i mean genuinely really yeah sort of emotionally

00:12:27.140 very very very fragile doesn't know what to think doesn't know how to feel yeah all those things

00:12:33.020 and you could barely get a sentence out yeah and i just want to be clear this isn't about dunking on

00:12:37.360 these women no no i feel sorry for that individual to be perfectly honest i feel sorry for someone like

00:12:41.480 that exactly i i'm lost it's a lost soul it seems to me yeah they're like deranged like and again i'm

00:12:47.560 not trying to be mean when i say that but literally like unable to think clearly about what has actually

00:12:52.720 happened here and their place in it and so now they're just like crying in the street saying i'm

00:12:57.700 not even sure if i'm allowed to cry it's like dude you're fine imagine feeling so guilty that it brought

00:13:03.520 you to tears and your own tears made you feel more guilty yeah what is that wow i mean who's done that

00:13:09.640 to you yeah right that's not healthy yeah it's not healthy no it's not a kind thing really not

00:13:14.520 um and this this lady uh nails it right so about don't about halfway in she she goes through um this 1.00

00:13:23.240 as you can see this compilation of white liberal women who are just freaking out about all of this 1.00

00:13:29.400 right and then i think it's about here that she uh starts explaining it healthy home and family

00:13:34.420 a woman will find a place to put all of that the natural instinct to sacrifice yourself for your 1.00

00:13:39.960 children gets misapplied in all the wrong directions you want to know why so many liberal women are out 1.00

00:13:45.440 there playing hero for criminal aliens and gender confused perverts and cultures that hate them it's 0.99

00:13:51.040 because they believe they have identified groups of people who need them when no one else does we 0.99

00:13:57.100 destroyed the family and we handed a generation of women a bunch of feminist lies and progressive slop in 1.00

00:14:02.900 its place and this is the natural result that's the important thing fair take right i can't argue

00:14:09.300 with it really can you these women believe that these communities need them but the thing is these

00:14:14.540 communities don't care at all i mean like one of the things about the uh the really good stuff

00:14:18.440 is i saw a load of black twitter being like you're not allowed to say say her name that's for black 0.98

00:14:23.780 women only it's like really you're patrolling that at this point right like these people these

00:14:28.480 people have broken up over this and they're like we don't care about you it's like right there we go

00:14:32.320 they don't care about you these people don't need you and the women who whose maternal instinct 0.53

00:14:38.720 has run out of control are honestly going to kind of sacrifice themselves in order to help i mean this

00:14:45.580 is just another great example right oh it's quite a long one so it's about uh 55 seconds in this this

00:14:53.220 another great example of a woman who is just basically she's gone far too far right so she they in in the 1.00

00:14:59.800 beginning of this you can see that like she's interfered with ice and they have to chase her

00:15:04.500 through the streets and you get this from the ice perspective and eventually she pulls over it's like

00:15:09.920 listen love what are you doing right what are you doing right i'm going to interfere with ice

00:15:15.800 arresting some illegal aliens and deporting them right because you think those people need you 0.99

00:15:20.480 right but actually there are other people who need you

00:15:23.760 you will be arrested this is your last and final warning hold on a second guys give me your license please

00:15:47.480 i will once again tell you you have cases in danger

00:15:52.180 i don't have a time let's do a vehicle and park and shut it off please

00:15:57.940 i understand but you are impeding look where you're at

00:16:01.400 you are almost causing an accident you are surrounded by federal latency

00:16:06.480 okay i am the deputy field office director here ma'am

00:16:11.580 stand by we're running the name we're going to refer this case and refer for enforcement action

00:16:20.180 i'm just i'm just alone please

00:16:22.860 you got it please please please i'm just alone please

00:16:25.380 i'm just you are just you turn around and get out of here

00:16:30.980 i'm getting out of here here you go slow down

00:16:32.860 what did you think you were doing your husband is going to be furious 0.97

00:16:39.440 get off the internet what are you oh i've got to save these criminal aliens from ice i'm going to 0.70

00:16:46.360 be a hit no you're not you're you're going to put yourself and your children in danger 0.99

00:16:50.980 you're going to ruin your life you're going to ruin your family your husband's going to 0.99

00:16:54.660 get a phone call at work and be like sorry my wife's what she's under under arrest 0.97

00:16:58.820 why she rammed an ice agent or whatever she had done and then she tried to flee and i was like

00:17:05.400 what you know like what are you doing there are people who actually depend on you and it's not the

00:17:11.200 criminal aliens who ice need to deport like and then you can see how afraid she is oh wait i've

00:17:16.400 actually i've i have now somehow managed to interface with the hard power of the state right 0.97

00:17:21.580 these guys have have an authority to shoot people who they think are trying to kill them

00:17:26.440 like this the guy who killed renee he's got a reasonable case that he felt threatened when

00:17:32.000 she tried to when she drive up he's going to get off yeah i saw a headline saying he will not be

00:17:36.620 charged absolutely not he's going to be just fine because he has a reasonable defense and i got hit by

00:17:41.800 her car i didn't know she wasn't going to run me over you know you can sit there and armchair

00:17:45.960 general it all you like but in the moment i was terrified and this has happened to me before

00:17:50.500 so i had a reasonable you know and he's going to be fine and a woman lost her life and this woman

00:17:56.680 could have gone down the same route and then she was like oh god what am i doing so yeah you're being

00:18:01.640 a zealot right you are being an insane zealot for an ideology that has really confused you about what 0.94

00:18:08.880 your actual priorities in life are like this is mad yeah how the hell does it come a suburban mum 0.96

00:18:15.240 going like i'm gonna be i'm gonna intercede like you know has she been reading islander i don't know

00:18:21.320 like like what is she doing and the defense that when it comes to it i'm just a mum i'm just a mum

00:18:27.760 i'm just a mum well then don't do any of these things yeah we'll act like one then yeah follow

00:18:33.280 the rules you know that's what they're there for i mean they're there to help you like why does the

00:18:37.820 department of homeland security have to tweet out quote do not bring your baby to a riot

00:18:42.140 sorry let's go back to the other woman they repeat they think there's someone who depends on 0.95

00:18:47.000 no there is someone who depends on them your baby right you don't endanger your your child your babies

00:18:52.680 by taking them to riots but this is the derangement that is infected this section of american life

00:18:59.200 like this i don't know whether they're single or not i mean i'm sure that a lot of them aren't but

00:19:03.360 like the the excessively online liberal white woman who thinks i have to save the immigrants the 1.00

00:19:10.940 illegal immigrants from the law justly catching up with them no you don't you are mental what are 0.97

00:19:19.040 you doing they've got a perverse concept of what justice is right yeah yeah absolutely they're

00:19:27.000 acting on behalf in favor of justice and it's like no you're doing the exact opposite you're impeding

00:19:32.260 justice and you're endangering yourself to see what homeland's actually retweeted there

00:19:37.900 saying some minneapolis reporters uh protesters sorry are showing up with their babies as shields

00:19:44.160 from law enforcement i mean what are you doing is there anything lower that's pretty it's almost as

00:19:50.160 low as you could go all right i mean you you have you've certainly lost all perspective if you decide

00:19:56.160 to do that i i certainly i'm going and the thing is if you like you like the first one screeching 0.99

00:20:01.440 shoot me shoot me shoot me if you think these are lunatics trigger happy lunatics who will quite 0.99

00:20:07.060 happily shoot anyone for getting in their way well then if you take your child then i mean i don't 1.00

00:20:14.300 think it's going to happen but you think that they might shoot your child that they might shoot your 0.99

00:20:19.340 baby and that's that's got to be in your mind if you think these trigger happy lunatics yeah right so

00:20:25.080 you you must be knowingly endangering your baby at that point yeah if you took it as

00:20:29.280 authentically as a shield yeah then that that's but like what what are you doing and really i i just

00:20:36.320 don't think these people should be involved in politics right these people should be involved with

00:20:41.160 the local bake sale they should be involved right yeah yeah you know i laugh but you're right yeah

00:20:46.720 old old deirdre has has actually you know hasn't got any firewood for the fire and so she's cold 1.00

00:20:52.800 so can you go and arrange you know old ted over there to go cut some fire for her and then you can

00:20:57.500 deliver it to her later right they should be doing small-scale community things where their 0.57

00:21:01.260 actions really matter and actually people are really relying on them and they don't have to

00:21:05.640 interface with the government or rights or anything else no no just just do good things in your local

00:21:10.840 communities that's what these women should be doing not trying to intercede with ice agents for 1.00

00:21:15.900 immigrant rapists or whatever or fraudsters or whatever they're doing like this is way above 0.93

00:21:21.440 their station you should not be doing any of this that old lady we saw earlier who's saying shoot me 0.99

00:21:26.740 shoot me i mean she someone like that anyway is sort of basically in my opinion has basically

00:21:32.580 completely lost their mind that it's not that they're not doing any good whatsoever in the

00:21:38.240 public discourse on the in the public square whatever and i know it's an old cliche to accuse

00:21:42.500 women of being hysterical but that's hysterical behavior yeah like truly in the true sense of that 0.88

00:21:47.420 word she's she's hysterical yes um it's best for her and the wider world if she just goes home

00:21:56.000 yeah i mean that woman was older she should have grandchildren she should be concerned about what 1.00

00:22:01.980 her grandchildren ate at school that day you know she shouldn't be worried about whether somalis are

00:22:06.880 going to get deported for fraud right that's that's not your business of all things as well if there was

00:22:12.300 some sort of wider social issue where there was an element of injustice and it was a gray area and

00:22:18.460 that sort of thing no but we're talking about somalis in in minnesota permitting massive amounts of fraud 0.97

00:22:25.400 and being a lot in large number illegals like this is not actually a black this is a black and white

00:22:30.880 issue this is not there are not shades of gray here these people did something wrong and they deserve 1.00

00:22:35.000 the punishment you're choosing this as the hill to get yourself suicided by cop are you yes you're

00:22:40.440 choosing this issue yeah and so this is this is something this um it's clearly a part of a kind

00:22:46.880 of ideological contagion within this kind of this community right i mean you've got like uh people

00:22:53.560 like you know sarah stalker i i was just i think she was uh tennessee or someone like that uh she said

00:22:59.920 you know every day i have guilt for being white and my kids should too and she says in this um we

00:23:05.460 shouldn't essentially she she says we shouldn't uh ignore it when kids start questioning race and

00:23:11.840 stuff we should use it as an opportunity to essentially instill white guilt into them

00:23:15.540 it's just like that's horrific it's evil what are you doing it's it's evil and then you've got

00:23:20.960 robin d'angelo of course you can go to losis.com and watch my conservatives guide to white fragility

00:23:26.220 because i spent a lot of time studying robin d'angelo's work and then i went to the german parliament

00:23:32.420 uh the request of the afd and explained it to them at great length and it really is essentially um

00:23:40.560 the christian idea of original sin that has been transposed into leftist politics and the thing is

00:23:47.140 in this d'angelo just basically says as much i was raised catholic you may be surprised that

00:23:53.560 the single image i use to capture the concept of white supremacy is is um michael angelo's sistine

00:24:03.160 chapel god creating man you know where where god is in a cloud and there's all these angels and he's

00:24:10.160 reaching out and he's touching i don't know who that is david or something adam and god is white

00:24:17.700 and david's white and the angels are white like that that is the perfect convergence of

00:24:24.200 white supremacy patriarchy right um and and you know both you and i let's imagine i don't know

00:24:31.920 how you were raised i was raised catholic so i saw many images like that as a child so

00:24:36.740 right so the point being she's instead of being a hardcore catholic who views things in the intensely

00:24:46.660 religious frame that they would have done in like the 16th 17th century or something like that

00:24:50.200 no she's a modern 21st century woman and so she views these things intensely in the extreme left 0.69

00:24:56.860 liberal frame and the original sin has become white guilt it's crystal clear to me yeah in her insane 1.00

00:25:03.880 world view that it's hard baked into white people yes their guilt yeah which is literally i mean

00:25:10.980 for us has written an article about this saying look this is genuinely the the christian doctrine of

00:25:16.000 original sin just taken out of its context because at least christianity is all about forgiveness and

00:25:22.060 humility and being a good person in the now right wokeism isn't any of that wokeism is oh you have

00:25:30.600 original sin but i hate you and i want you destroyed and i there's no forgiveness there's no redemption 0.95

00:25:36.940 and that's why they're all i feel guilty okay well if you were a christian you'd be able to

00:25:41.840 purge these feelings through the process of you know going through the rituals and doing the

00:25:48.120 things that christians do but with woke it just gets bottled up there's no getting rid of this you

00:25:53.000 can't go to a confession there's no absolution there's nothing you can do there's no good works

00:25:58.520 you know apart from protesting which even then there's no like formalized structure to like get

00:26:03.160 rid of the feelings no you have the original sin but it's bottled up forever well that was what that

00:26:08.760 was going to be one of the next things i was going to say is that it's different to original sin in

00:26:12.820 so far that uh that no amount of contrition is enough no amount of confession there is no forgiveness

00:26:19.320 for it correct and so that's truly truly demented yeah it's genuinely demented malevolent yes

00:26:27.780 it's horrible horrible absolutely and i genuinely think this is what's driving this segment of liberal 0.98

00:26:35.220 white women absolutely bonkers i think it's driving them completely mad because they look 1.00

00:26:39.640 around and go well i'm i'm quite lucky i'm privileged i have a nice life i have a you know 0.99

00:26:43.940 nice husband you know we both earn a nice wage and we follow the rules and we obey the laws and we

00:26:49.340 do the right things and some people don't have that and it's like yeah okay some people don't have

00:26:54.580 that but that's not because you took it from them right and it's not and honestly when in the case

00:27:00.020 of like somali fraudsters there's nothing you can do to raise them up to your level that can never 1.00

00:27:04.420 happen they will never follow the right process to get to your point and those that do will get

00:27:09.880 to your point and we'll end up being a neighbor go yeah no deport those guys you know why would

00:27:13.660 you want those in your country you know they're just not just scammers and fraudsters who broke

00:27:16.600 it illegally get rid of them you know like the law-abiding rule-following hard-working somalis 0.99

00:27:21.460 you know whichever whatever constituency that is in that that community they would want them gone too

00:27:26.800 you know but you are sat there with this irrepressible guilt you can't get rid of

00:27:32.840 and because you can't get rid of it it leads you to do mental things and get yourself in positions

00:27:38.440 where like like this um this woman in particular it's like you know i'm pretty sure this is the 0.95

00:27:44.380 point where she's like you know what maybe i just need to not do this yeah if i take a wrong turn

00:27:49.440 somewhere yeah have i have i've got something wrong in my world view yeah it's absolutely mad and i i

00:27:56.860 like i feel sorry for them i feel sorry they have a religion that doesn't allow them to arrive at the 0.98

00:28:03.400 point that christianity would have allowed them to arrive at it's mimicking the same moral structures

00:28:07.660 it's got some of the same precepts it just doesn't have those other areas that allow it to be a coherent

00:28:14.120 and uh wholesome worldview rather than an insane guilt-ridden destructive one

00:28:20.220 luke says uh the more i see these liberal women the more i think migtau is right public and women 1.00

00:28:26.100 no no it's again it's most women voted for trump right it's not all women and i we i do want us to

00:28:33.980 be very clear about that it's not all women it is actually a about 10 of you know the the population

00:28:40.700 are these sort of radical left-wing liberal women who want to be deeply religious because they want 1.00

00:28:46.280 to feel their spirit is saved right that's what this is all about they want to feel that they're

00:28:50.280 on good terms with the universe and that's what they're trying to get to and because the religion

00:28:55.160 that they have doesn't allow that they are kind of losing their minds

00:29:00.160 this is why women must be married to have 10 kids okay come on you don't need 10 kids 1.00

00:29:06.660 although that's that would be impressive that way women will focus on what's particular and real 1.00

00:29:11.200 not weird abstract ideas exactly exactly like it's like this this sort of high level politics

00:29:17.180 is not what these women were designed for these women were designed to make sure that in their 1.00

00:29:22.280 local communities everything was going really well like evolutionarily that's their role in life

00:29:27.520 and they're applying that to things where it's just not appropriate it's just not appropriate no you

00:29:33.540 do not need to worry about the somali community anyway we'll move on sorry okay in a few more 1.00

00:29:38.980 chats or uh it's all right we'll get okay time time issue all right well so let's talk a little bit

00:29:46.460 about reform nigel farage and uh zahari the zahari defection yeah shall we a bit of an odd one

00:29:54.460 um you saw this coming i woke up this morning oh thank god nadim zahawi is defected to reform

00:30:02.360 what who who thought about him yeah i thank god it lends so much gravitas to reform doesn't it

00:30:10.120 yeah it reflects so well on reform it's very i mean does it does it though okay well so here's

00:30:17.080 i mean here's a headline i mean tory says how we peerage request turned down before defection

00:30:23.800 to reform uk so first thing to say about it is that he was trying to get a peerage that is trying to

00:30:29.860 become ennobled become the lord zahari and um it was it just wasn't going to happen you basically

00:30:35.160 got a no on well it's because of the tax issues and right so there's scandal in his past about tax

00:30:40.420 so they were like no so it's a no on that and now affects the reform now he decides it's the right

00:30:47.440 thing to do to join reform yeah all right mate if you say so um should you have a quick

00:30:55.880 just listen to this just as a base even if you don't yet realize that britain needs reform

00:31:01.100 you know in your heart of hearts that our wonderful country is sick how many of you at home

00:31:09.840 have thought to yourselves that nothing works today i know i have and i have a damn sight easier

00:31:19.260 than most people that is why i'm standing here today as the newest member of reform uk

00:31:27.760 i mean he's obviously not wrong but that's kind of trite to say at this point yeah it's like nothing

00:31:33.240 really works in britain whose thoughts that yeah we you don't happen to have been in the government

00:31:39.680 that caused that did you yeah yeah you weren't right at the pinnacle of government for years

00:31:44.500 the treasurer or something were you yeah like yeah we we know nothing works i just i just don't

00:31:50.820 believe i just i'm not buying like the faux sincerity of it all yeah that suddenly he's decided the

00:31:57.100 correct political move is to join reform no it's because he he lost his seat in 2024 he didn't even

00:32:03.900 try and stand for it right but he knew he was gonna cure cowardice political cowardice rishi sunak and

00:32:08.160 the 250 uh conservative mps who got uh politically slaughtered in the 2024 election he was one of

00:32:15.020 them yeah right yeah and so he knew it was not going to happen so he didn't run yeah that's like

00:32:20.120 that it's kind of pathetic isn't it i think yeah sort of politically it's it it looks then like an

00:32:25.680 attempt to sort of worm his way back in right yeah oh the wind is with nigel at the moment okay well 0.98

00:32:30.320 why don't i just sidle over to that aisle and uh yeah no the country's sick it needs reform don't know

00:32:35.300 how this happened yeah don't know who was a government when it caused this but oh it's rough

00:32:39.620 must have been keir starmer or something it's like no it was the conservatives between 2019 and 2024

00:32:45.080 you did this to us all of it yeah in my opinion he's someone that should really answer yeah for his

00:32:52.740 crimes and misdemeanors during government yeah i mean don't get me wrong absolutely answer for that

00:32:56.940 not just not just sidle over and be back in government under knowledge don't get me wrong prior to that

00:33:02.040 labor were terrible they also did some of this to us and keir starmer is also doing other things to

00:33:06.940 us but you you need to own this and as a general point i was going to leave it to a bit later in the

00:33:13.720 segment but just saying now like isn't somebody exactly like him supposed to be the exact person

00:33:20.360 that reform was meant to be replacing what failed conservative politicians who ruined the country yeah i

00:33:26.940 would have thought so wasn't that the whole one one of the reasons for being for reform was to give

00:33:32.060 an alternative to him right i mean yes i don't understand what reform is doing either i mean

00:33:40.900 nigel and richard tice's uh line has always been we will never have any sort of uh deal or compact

00:33:46.540 with the tory parties that's off the table we will not do it but individual ones even some of the

00:33:50.820 worst actors among them we will take them welcome with open arms though how does that make sense i don't

00:33:56.100 know i just couldn't understand why they took dean doris as well like she's like a hardcore boris

00:34:00.480 partner she's been incredibly close to her and incredibly instrumental in all the things that boris

00:34:04.260 did it's like why why would you want her like why would you want him like who's next rishi sadak

00:34:12.020 well let's just go adobe so let's say matt hancock if man matt hancock wanted to join reform would

00:34:16.660 nigel take him in i don't know uh i mean like what what if michael gove wants to join what if you know

00:34:22.420 is there a tory that you won't take yeah yeah so the accusation that reform is a project of being

00:34:30.260 the teal tories tories 2.0 a lot of reform people say no come on that's nonsense let's be reasonable

00:34:35.600 that's not really it it's much more than that much deeper than that it's like is it though now

00:34:39.520 well let's go through it nigel farage ex-tory lee anderson ex-tory richard tice ex-tory

00:34:45.120 obviously danny kruger uh jonathan gullis uh um nadim here uh but then you've got other ones uh

00:34:53.360 lilia cunningham ex-tory candidate uh what was the sarah pochin ex-tory uh the andrea jenkins

00:35:00.720 dame andrea jenkins ex-tory and then you've got a bunch of councillors that you don't know the names

00:35:05.060 of but they were ex-tory councillors it's like sorry look it'd be easier to count the people who

00:35:10.160 weren't even rupert lowe was a member of the conservative party until 1993 right he left it

00:35:16.800 i mean don't get wrong getting out early you know getting out 1993 with the maastricht treaty

00:35:20.780 but even with blows the only people i as far as i'm aware who weren't are james mcmurdoch and the

00:35:26.860 mayor who's the boxer whose name i can't remember off hand um the as far as i'm told they are the only

00:35:33.780 two who were never actually i think they've got a couple of labor defections as well and the

00:35:37.520 councillors but there's it's it's literally a handful of them who were not tories and these

00:35:43.700 people uh like you know either weren't in politics or at a low level in the labor party right so they

00:35:50.160 were councillors in the labor market what's that mean you know they're not former tory government

00:35:54.660 who ruined the country and ruined their own careers and are clearly using nigel as a life raft 1.00

00:36:01.480 to get back into the limelight back into the spotlight because that's clearly what's happening here

00:36:06.300 yeah yeah with zahari certainly certainly you just made the deep dories certainly i mean the first 0.97

00:36:12.860 thing she did was like oh you know what you should do you should get boris in what the fuck yeah boris 0.97

00:36:17.700 yeah get boris into what you know traitor's gate like like jesus are you mental yeah like nigel why 0.99

00:36:24.900 are you surrounding yourself with these people like you should be like making a public example of

00:36:29.700 them frankly you know like like we so and so appealed to us see if they join the party but we

00:36:36.600 refused we are not taking members of the former conservative government that inflicted the boris

00:36:40.540 wave on us no nadine doris no niddy nadine hasari zahawi or whatever his name is yeah what are you

00:36:46.620 talking about your actions preclude you anyway yeah no absolutely because it's just it's just baffling i

00:36:52.160 just don't understand the decisions he's making well i said on on the morning show breakfast with

00:36:57.880 bo i said i said excellent show i watch it every morning by the way because like there's nothing

00:37:03.840 else on in the morning and so like uh i mean there is this talk tv but i'm not watching that and my

00:37:09.040 gram not watching that uh so i when i'm getting ready in the shower and uh brushing my teeth and stuff

00:37:13.700 you know i'm catching up on the day's headlines with bo i i said i said on that that um it's just

00:37:19.060 you know would would the average reform member or the average person that it sort of is considering

00:37:27.080 voting reform it would have been exactly this sort of person you would think you would hope

00:37:33.820 farage would draw a line at because i think when the nadine doris thing came up she said let's get

00:37:37.680 boris in i think there was a decision made at reform to say no we are going to draw the line at boris

00:37:41.680 himself oh thank god you would have thought you would have hoped that that would extend to exactly

00:37:45.560 someone like zahawi anyone in boris's cabinet yeah anyone that was actually in cabinet during

00:37:50.460 the years of treason sorry treason anyone that's probably in there and the thing is there are no

00:37:56.400 but and i can understand if if say swella braveman is an example where uh she was obviously in rishi

00:38:03.760 sunak's cabinet uh and since then she's come out hard against rishi sunak she's been like no he stopped

00:38:09.940 me from doing anything i went and begged him look i know the laws we need to get rid of i know how to get

00:38:14.880 rid of these people let me do it and apparently rishi sunak said no right she's come out and

00:38:18.620 publicly castigated her prior government okay maybe there's a case for swella braveman then right

00:38:23.040 because her actions show that she's been very much against and now i'm not i'm not saying he has to

00:38:27.440 and it's fair if you don't want him to right but at least there's an argument there what's nadine

00:38:32.180 zahawi done nothing has is there any contrition whatsoever for he did when he was in government no

00:38:38.680 there isn't no he was defending his his position on vaccine passports for example the other day

00:38:43.120 exactly like it's a complete it's night and day and yet for some reason he hasn't got swella even

00:38:47.360 though swella braveman's husband is a member of reform like rail braveman he's a public reform

00:38:52.340 supporter for some reason he hasn't got her but he has got this guy what are you what's going on

00:38:57.340 yeah i mean let's have a quick look at him so it was sort of all the bad things yeah so like he

00:39:02.320 was pro vaccine passports yeah um he was very very pro vaccine passport yeah yeah full blown

00:39:08.560 um he's sort of pro um he was pro sort of migration sort of a globalist essentially or even at the

00:39:16.280 oxford union um you know almost gloating really that some specifically somalis take loads and loads 0.99

00:39:22.440 of money out of our economy and send it back home but that's somehow a good thing he literally said

00:39:26.880 that their economy would collapse if it wasn't for remittances from the somali diaspora so i mean and

00:39:32.400 this is why immigration is good for britain that was the argument that he was defending mad in that

00:39:36.580 oxford union debate it's like sorry okay he is an immigrant right he came from iraq when he was 11

00:39:41.180 years old was it yeah uh and the boy from baghdad and he keeps using the term british dream as well

00:39:46.840 which i find very sinister because okay the american dream makes sense if you've got a giant undiscovered

00:39:52.480 country and you want a kind of ideology that makes people all on the same page fair enough that makes

00:39:58.440 sense because you've got this giant frontier that you need to get populated uh but we are not a giant

00:40:04.600 frontier we there is you know you are not coming to our country to like you know fulfill your dreams

00:40:11.120 of becoming rich and fake no no no you've got your own countries this this country is massively

00:40:15.260 overpopulated like but the way he keeps saying it he said it in the uh speech with nigel he's like 0.98

00:40:20.400 yeah no i i fulfilled my british dreams there's no such thing it sounds tin-eared when you say it

00:40:24.820 right american dream makes sense you know it's part of the mythos of america it's not part of the

00:40:29.340 mythos of britain we were ultra exclusionary until about 1948 no one came to this country and with 0.95

00:40:35.420 good reason and we haven't got endless prairies for people to settle on have we weirdly um and the

00:40:41.180 other thing he said he in the past he'd said that he was frightened yes by the idea of a country led 0.84

00:40:45.860 by nigel farage and nigel farage is racist and things he just did say it god give me the nigel 0.93

00:40:52.380 farage that they think we're getting uh i mean a bit of cope there when they were asked about it

00:40:57.420 uh you know uh and yeah the thing about there was um the tax issues in his past that he did pay up

00:41:05.560 for um yeah um yeah there's an article there he thinks we forgot about his tax scandal we haven't

00:41:13.500 uh i mean there you go he said that's a tweet if anyone's only listening to this it's from zahari

00:41:19.240 himself you see it's from 2015 now you might say it is a while ago but not that long ago i mean it's

00:41:24.000 not like i mean he was only what 48 when he wrote it like so 47 it's just a young confused kid yeah he

00:41:32.140 didn't know he's just inexperienced uh you know do you know he began his career as an advisor to

00:41:39.400 jeffrey archer yeah i did see that the other day that's that's weird disgraced jeffrey archer for

00:41:45.560 anyone who doesn't know just look up his wikipedia bio shorthand for being a disgrace jeffrey archer

00:41:50.460 yeah so he said i'm not british born mr faraj uh but i am as british as you are your comments are 0.77

00:41:57.340 offensive and racist i'd be frightened to live in a country run by you based if only but now but now 1.00

00:42:03.660 it's his only vehicle back into government so he's just changed his team this is amazing though right

00:42:08.260 i'm not british born correct yeah you were born in iraq uh i am as british as you are okay but what

00:42:12.920 does british then mean in this sentence right if nothing exactly it means nothing it's literally got

00:42:19.340 no descriptive power if in iraqi and nigel faraj and a pretty average englishman by most accounts

00:42:26.140 are just as british as one another then being british has no exclusionary power like it doesn't

00:42:32.780 mean it doesn't mean anything someone in papua new guinea but yeah i'm just as british as nigel

00:42:36.640 faraj as well actually yeah you know someone in vladivostok is like yes conrad i'm i'm british today

00:42:42.460 you know like i can't do an accent but like you know there's there's no reason why can't the penguins

00:42:46.240 in antarctica go yeah we're british too because what stops them from being british you know yeah

00:42:52.240 yeah yeah so it's a classic sort of and i love the oh it's offensive and racist all right you leftist

00:42:58.320 yeah it's offensive and racist is it was it i don't even care um yeah

00:43:04.960 well uh so now there's another old tweet where he says like nigel faraj there's no chance of him

00:43:12.520 joining as then ukip or whatever um that that he nad him has been a conservative all his life and

00:43:19.960 will die a conservative but not now though you were a conservative when you were 10 years old in iraq

00:43:25.420 just have interest you know yeah were your parents conservative politicians in iraq i don't know

00:43:31.220 what's going on what are we talking about what age did you dream of joining the 1922 committee yeah

00:43:35.980 was it always was it from birth was it yeah you're there in baghdad thinking if only i could get on

00:43:40.480 the 1922 committee then i'd be a happy man i'll die a conservative until they're tanking in the

00:43:46.440 polls yeah maybe i won't yeah until they fail to give you a peerage yeah and at that point you'll

00:43:51.280 turn that your back because i never thought the ukip guy would be the leading politician in the

00:43:54.860 country yeah um so here's a little bit when somebody actually asked him uh just yesterday just

00:44:00.620 directly about that tweet katherine turn it up a bit please good on you for digging out a tweet from

00:44:07.360 11 years ago um but all i would say to you is um if i thought this man sitting next to me

00:44:14.880 um was in any way um uh had an issue with uh people of my color or my background who have

00:44:24.840 come to this country who have integrated assimilated proud of this country worked hard for this country

00:44:32.060 paid millions of pounds in taxes in this country invested in the country i wouldn't be sitting next

00:44:36.140 to him and i think he wouldn't be sitting next to me either quite i mean to be honest with you at

00:44:41.120 least this argument i'm an integration success story yeah i'm sure jeffrey archer taught you

00:44:45.540 everything you needed to know like you know about avoiding tax or whatever like and don't go wrong

00:44:49.740 base i hate taxes too i mean you know i don't know what to tell you but uh you know so i'm not

00:44:54.680 going to say he's not an integration success story because i mean one of the things yeah his speech

00:44:58.740 honestly was not terrible so he came i was like we need we need to deal with the radical islam and 0.89

00:45:02.700 you know that is true we absolutely need to deal with radical islam uh but the main question is 0.99

00:45:07.700 why can't we have british people doing that yeah yeah why do we need the yeah so he was like a token

00:45:14.880 dei hire or or under like cameron or whatever they decided they wanted someone of that color and that

00:45:21.880 background he did a great job for the tory party yeah i just thinking is he can do a great job for us

00:45:27.000 on that front as well why not yeah and this is the same with uh lalia cunningham it's not the thing is

00:45:31.740 it's not even that he's necessarily a bad communicator um he's not i don't agree with

00:45:36.740 the things that he has done while he was in government but the same with lalia cunningham

00:45:41.000 it's like she's a good communicator and she's defending her position relatively well actually 0.99

00:45:44.880 but the damn what's in position of yeah but why do we have to have muslims in it being the people 0.96

00:45:51.280 that represent us it's the same with zia yusuf like actually zia yusuf has done quite well on 0.99

00:45:55.660 question time representing the nativist position recently right yeah but why do we have to have

00:46:02.140 people who are not natives being the only ones who are allowed to defend the position the position is 0.80

00:46:07.800 clearly defensible which is why lalia cunningham zia yusuf and i guess nadim zahawi will do this now

00:46:12.940 why can't why why are the native british not allowed to defend it themselves that's the question

00:46:18.260 and like you got kicked out of reform dan tubbs got kicked out of reform rupert lowe james mcmurdoch

00:46:25.700 you know all all of the sort of people because the thing is in a lot of ways to what zia yusuf was

00:46:30.680 saying on question time you guys don't say that much different like you know in a lot of ways you

00:46:35.360 guys are basically on the same platform it's just you're not a muslim so have you thought about

00:46:40.020 converting bow you got the beard so i'm afraid not um but i mean let's i mean let's let him speak

00:46:49.020 for himself a bit you might have to turn it up a bit samson i was born in baghdad my memoirs are

00:46:53.700 called the boy from baghdad we came to these shores in 1979 i was 11 years old we came with

00:47:00.000 nothing other than hope and determination but also knowing that this nation was the most civilized

00:47:07.360 nation on earth but my friends today britain is broken and i'm convinced that britain needs reform

00:47:14.980 are you i can't even bother to listen to you get the idea this like faux sincerity of like nigel is 0.82

00:47:20.880 the only one that can save the nation and it's it's pretty straightforward everyone can see that

00:47:24.420 we've got problems inflicted on us by the conservative government yeah so by you and your cabal

00:47:29.700 literally you um so ironically if it was anyone else like it could literally be almost any other

00:47:35.820 conservative who wasn't in the boris government yeah like because that was only what 12 people

00:47:40.800 something like that i can't remember how many you know exact actual cabinet ministers had like there

00:47:44.660 must be thousands of tories who are just hundreds of backbench mps who could have defected no no we've

00:47:51.220 got to get one of the architects yeah right it is like getting michael gove or something like that

00:47:55.640 or man matt hancock or something or else you think people are not connecting the dots so the real

00:48:01.300 question is really what is the thinking in what is nigel's thinking because that's what we touched

00:48:06.140 on earlier wasn't it like what what is his calculation well he tweeted this just saying i

00:48:10.360 warmly welcome nadim sahari to reform uk a successful businessman who reached the top of

00:48:15.280 the tree in politics and knows how to get stuff done what's his business so i've got to take nigel

00:48:19.820 on his on his word that that's what genuinely what his thinking is on it oh i believe it too

00:48:25.000 yeah i'm not yeah nadim zahawi has money i don't think that's just massively cynical or a lie or

00:48:32.040 anything from nigel i think that's what he really thinks and feels yeah but isn't it just behind the

00:48:37.400 curve of how most people are thinking in the country isn't it just a little bit insulting to anyone that

00:48:45.120 can remember only four years ago yeah yeah it's like he's a successful businessman i mean so what

00:48:52.140 who cares really um are they not successful businessmen who didn't try and lock the country

00:48:56.480 down and inflict vaccine passports on us right there must be a few and he reached the top of 0.75

00:49:01.500 the tree in politics i mean technically is that again but is that um a positive isn't that a sort

00:49:08.640 of a detriment to his character that under the conservative party and that whole disgraceful

00:49:13.600 administration the country has had in my memory yeah he did reach the top of the tree the fact that

00:49:18.680 he achieved that is that a good achievement is that something that reflects well on reform like

00:49:24.480 the idea that it just lends the just the general purpose idea that it lends reform gravitas because he

00:49:32.060 was once chancellor i love the idea is that worth it nigel thinks there's some floating voter out there

00:49:37.800 who's like you know i might vote for reform but they just don't have nadim zahawi yeah and if they did

00:49:43.600 i'd be all on board but they don't so i can't if only they had a boris era senior secretary of state

00:49:49.400 in their ranks if only oh yeah yeah i bet most of the public don't know who he is

00:49:54.720 maybe yeah and that he gets stuff done yeah what stuff yeah yeah not stuff i want what stuff did he get

00:50:01.860 done though yeah i mean i guess nigel's thinking is just simply it's just simply the case

00:50:08.980 that there's there's a prestige like a real sort of gold-plated prestige that comes with having been

00:50:15.380 the prime minister the home secretary the foreign secretary uh the chancellor and that if one of

00:50:19.980 those people were in his ranks it just means we're ready for government now so that thinking and it's

00:50:24.820 just that angela reina former deputy prime minister does he take jess phillips if she wants the defect 0.76

00:50:30.260 like you know she's at home uh one of the home office ministers like rachel reeves she's chancellor 0.82

00:50:37.720 the exchequer mate there's prestige in it isn't there she's defecting from labor all of a sudden 1.00

00:50:41.980 are you taking her in it's a shaky logic the second you look ridiculous when you look under that

00:50:47.920 paper thin veneer of an argument since you look under it you look at who he is and what he actually did

00:50:53.220 in office conservatives sent in the polls labor like 18 of the polls reform 32 of the polls i need

00:51:00.340 one of those guys no no the prestige is in being the top of the polls right the prestige is being the

00:51:07.720 most popular party in the country you don't gain prestige from failed conservatives they gain prestige

00:51:14.740 from you like you are giving him a lease of life he otherwise wouldn't have there's no way nadim

00:51:21.420 zahawi is getting back into government if not through nigel farage so why do you need that guy 1.00

00:51:26.600 like nigel doesn't seem to have come to terms with the fact that he's winning like he doesn't seem to 0.92

00:51:31.280 have come to terms with it it does seem to have been i think didn't you say this morning there was

00:51:35.260 a poll that said a you gov poll ironically yeah that said reform was down a couple of points on the

00:51:39.800 back of this there there are no no yeah there are no no it wasn't on the back of this okay because

00:51:43.600 this was only announced today or yesterday uh this was a poll that was done a couple of days earlier

00:51:48.220 so the consequence of this will come out in the polls yeah i wonder how it will he's all over

00:51:52.540 the place you know like somewhere on like 26 to sort of 33 that sort of range so if you roughly go

00:51:57.460 so about 30 that's a fairly consistent it's been a bit of a down tip recently and i don't think this

00:52:02.680 is the thing that's going to start pushing it back up yeah i mean i wonder because a lot of reform

00:52:08.420 voters and supporters are kind of locked in nigel sort of can't do any wrong a lot of them are pissed 0.89

00:52:13.320 off about but i but i was just gonna say but i wonder though if this actually will turn a lot

00:52:18.820 of people a lot a lot of people off they're like the argument i made earlier no he's exactly the

00:52:24.100 enemy yeah he should be politically speaking he should be the absolute enemy of reform and

00:52:30.220 everything they stand for should be shouldn't it and i wonder if many sort of reform would-be voters

00:52:35.460 or members are sort of you know really turned off by it i've heard through the grapevine people are

00:52:40.520 kind of furious yeah why what like and i just don't understand what nige thinks he's gaining 0.99

00:52:46.000 from it like experiencing government it's like i don't know man i think uh i think you'll be fine

00:52:52.420 well let's see what rupert lowe had to say about it it's reasonably long tweet but if i read it

00:52:56.460 um he says i'm very i'm very strongly of the view that in the next general election we need hundred

00:53:03.900 who's this week we need hundreds of candidates put forward to the british people that have

00:53:08.320 largely had zero involvement in politics up to that point i will work tirelessly tirelessly to

00:53:13.960 make sure uh that is provided in some form after the shameful news from reform today i.e the i.e the

00:53:20.920 the defection um i'm more convinced than ever of its necessity i am absolutely certain that we do not

00:53:27.140 need a host of failed conservative mps uh manipulating the rightful anger of the british people

00:53:32.120 to slink back into parliament farage has got it wrong again and sadly it has revealed what really

00:53:37.980 drives him i do not believe that it is the in the best interests of the country i'm sorry i just

00:53:42.240 don't understand people are frustrated that i remain an independent um without a political party

00:53:48.380 come on yeah yeah me too something to back yes give us an option yeah give us something to beat the 0.99

00:53:54.240 drum for groups prince rupert give us an option please we're dying over here we're dying on our asses 0.77

00:53:59.840 out here come on that's a lifeline uh but we are going to have one shot at getting this right

00:54:04.920 and we need to get it right there is no other choice alongside that if we wait until 2029 to

00:54:10.640 deliver the change the country so desperately needs there won't be a britain left to restore 1.00

00:54:14.440 this is the immediate priority that is why decent-minded mps must come together now to fight

00:54:19.360 for a different britain today that's what i'm trying to do through restore and in parliament

00:54:24.380 some wins some failures but with progress uh regardless if and this is the key bit if we do not

00:54:30.180 do a good job now if we do a good job now as so often in life a path will present itself

00:54:37.100 if it does not one will be forged in the coming months there will be a viable alternative at the

00:54:43.000 next election i promise you that great tantalizing it is i would like to just like to hear more about

00:54:51.920 this yes yes what is the viable alternative and the hundreds of candidates you're talking about

00:54:56.940 there rupert what is that what are we doing here let's go i'm all up let's go baby yeah yeah speaking

00:55:03.140 of uh the words of rupert low oh yes good point rupert low has an interview in island of five

00:55:11.300 about oliver cromwell and the nature of power in parliament uh cromwell happens to be his uh one of

00:55:18.840 his favorite historical figures so for anyone who doesn't know uh and and he named his dog cromwell

00:55:24.200 so uh you know rupert is uh not not a shrinking violet when it comes to political action so will

00:55:33.180 he be our lord protector for reals yeah yeah lord protector for real though well notice he's saying

00:55:37.860 look i i don't have a party but trust me something's happening in 2029 so i mean that's that's either he

00:55:42.880 starts a party of his own or he starts an armed uprising so so i'm i'm a good committed democrat so of

00:55:51.680 course i hope that he starts a party that we can vote for uh but you can read the interview at

00:55:56.740 shop.loses.com get island of five it's the biggest and best one we have done yet it slaps look at

00:56:02.640 that cover man that is it's such a great cover um and uh it's it's our fastest selling one yet anyway

00:56:07.660 all right what a few super chats yeah uh nigel is so keen showed his racist image he'd welcome abu 0.98

00:56:14.280 hamza into the park well i mean it's just jokes like that all over twitter aren't there that

00:56:18.620 shemeika begum's the new councillor yeah yeah Tony blair you know like who doesn't nigel accept 1.00

00:56:24.140 uh to straw man steel man i think steel man the argument uh nigel could be doing this to make 0.74

00:56:28.980 easier to get the conservatives to join him if he has to form a coalition coalition quite possibly but

00:56:34.420 honestly i think this kind of weakness is why farage isn't tearing ahead in the polls right now

00:56:40.120 right it would be at 40 i think so 50 because i mean like and the thing is boris was at 52 at one

00:56:45.900 point in the polls uh kissed armor was at like 48 50 something like that when he first took in he

00:56:50.740 was you know they cut they came in on some really good will and nigel's trailing at between 26 to 33

00:56:57.480 it's like but nigel you are you couldn't be better positioned for any for what's going on right now 1.00

00:57:03.680 and for some reason you're not seizing the moment anyway let's uh let's move on all right

00:57:10.060 so i want to talk about the uh the strange death of crypto twitter now i don't really

00:57:16.780 follow crypto twitter but it popped up on my timeline recently and actually something very

00:57:21.680 interesting came out of it now as uh lena here is like can someone please explain what crypto twitter

00:57:27.860 is usually chatting about nowadays there are no so crypto being cryptocurrency right so investing and

00:57:33.560 trading bitcoins and you know various other coins uh and i when this popped up my timeline i was like

00:57:41.220 okay what is this all about so i tried looking into it and basically i came to the position that linda's

00:57:46.080 on lena is on where it's just like i have no idea what they're doing i have no idea what this is

00:57:50.740 because they don't seem to actually be talking substantively about anything uh as she says you know

00:57:56.380 they're not talking about things that will move the crypto markets not that i can tell okay like if they

00:58:01.420 are it just was hidden from me uh she says there are no real products in crypto even after 15 years

00:58:07.040 it doesn't moon anyone i don't know what that is what what's the point unless you're running a

00:58:10.000 scam blah blah blah right now it's just low energy good morning friends copium den right okay that's

00:58:17.320 interesting uh and so a lot of the crypto users uh crypto twitter types um the cts uh were

00:58:24.200 complaining that actually they feel that their algorithmic reach has been limited and so they

00:58:32.540 on twitter on twitter right and so it became a bit of a meme in the crypto twitter sphere that they

00:58:39.620 think well hang on a second why is elon and his company shadow banning us and algorithmically

00:58:45.700 limiting us so we can't promote crypto like what's going on i mean you think of all the people to do it

00:58:52.700 why would elon be trying to crush crypto right and so they forced as you can see here uh nick uh

00:59:00.080 well this uh nikita beer who is the product manager for twitter uh this big angry mob of uh crypto

00:59:08.180 twitter types were like well hang on a second why are we getting de-boosted uh and so the the mob

00:59:15.200 forced nikita to uh explain how things work so he's like look the algorithm is built from scratch by the

00:59:20.760 xai team and just to be clear he's not actually on the xai team right so he actually doesn't directly

00:59:26.360 deal with the algorithm uh but he's obviously close to the team that does and so you pass things

00:59:31.360 across them he's the product manager um and you know so it runs on 20 000 gpus at the colossus

00:59:37.920 data center blah blah blah right so it's a massive undertaking that's greek to me i've got no idea what

00:59:42.820 that means uh 20 000 i get it it's big your your computer has one okay so you know you play all your

00:59:49.580 games on that it has one right okay uh so uh massive right uh and so he posted this in response

00:59:59.580 to people now he has since deleted this but i suspect this is correct right and this this is

01:00:04.440 really fascinating because it changed the way i thought about algorithms and the way that people i

01:00:11.400 think are thinking about algorithms is basically wrong right okay now this isn't going to be a

01:00:17.200 universal metric or procedure this is definitely just for twitter because as the social media giants

01:00:23.880 go twitter has always been the smallest of the social media giants but it's also been the most

01:00:29.160 influential right so twitter is where elite opinion is formed and this is why jack dorsey's twitter was

01:00:35.060 gatekept so hard like you know think of all the right wingers who kicked off like myself like steve

01:00:40.700 banon all those sorts of you know roger stone all the all the all the sort of yeah trump himself

01:00:44.760 yeah literally it was they know that elite opinion is formed on twitter because it has kind of

01:00:51.000 addictive quality to it you know it's gamified you want the likes you want the retweets you want the

01:00:55.220 plaudits you know it's it's an addictive thing to get verified to get reinforcement it's kind of fun

01:01:01.080 if you've got a thick enough skin it's fun it is i think it is i agree it's got this kind of

01:01:06.700 gamified uh aspect to it where people post opinions post information and it's like i said gamified the

01:01:14.260 exchange of information and so it is fun right but you've got to be a certain kind of person to use it

01:01:18.740 and the general public generally are not those kinds of people actually kind of self-selects for those

01:01:23.140 politically engaged uh types who are happy to be in the thunderdome and uh take the slings and arrows

01:01:30.860 it is like an all-on-all royal rumble 24 7 yes all the gates door oh it's no holds barred skull crushing

01:01:37.280 it is a pvp platform yeah because this is it is a game and it's pvp uh and

01:01:44.300 it's just true right yeah uh whereas a lot of other platforms are not like that right instagram

01:01:51.280 is a lot more like relaxed facebook's a lot more relaxed actually uh youtube is very siloed

01:01:59.140 you know in many ways twitter is not quite like that but it's also like i said the smallest so

01:02:03.740 twitter i think last last i checked was about 500 million people who regularly used it which sounds

01:02:09.520 like a lot no no sorry there are 500 million accounts uh but i don't know what the actual

01:02:14.740 regular usage is but that's the sort of maximum number of accounts um i'm sure it's been growing

01:02:19.700 under elon but like it's still not that big it's gonna be a few hundred million a month who use it

01:02:24.400 right i think you are right to say i think it is fair to say that it's sort of where elite

01:02:27.580 opinions from because even like governments and things and massive massive multinational governments

01:02:31.600 they'll put out a statement on twitter and the mainstream legacy media report what they put on

01:02:36.220 twitter i mean it's right there right it really is yeah it's fair to say that it's the premier

01:02:42.800 apparently 611 million monthly users which sounds like a lot but facebook's got two billion

01:02:50.340 you know like the youtube again monthly users again it's in the billions so and you know logging

01:02:58.420 onto twitter and tweeting something once a month makes you a monthly user so you know how engaged these

01:03:05.460 people are is a real question right and so um getting back to nick's point here so twitter has a

01:03:12.700 different way of serving things and under elon is trying to optimize for different things right

01:03:18.640 compared to like youtube and whatnot so he tweeted this uh in october a new myth started in crypto

01:03:24.060 twitter that you need to reply hundreds of times per day to grow an account now this is kind of true

01:03:29.220 on facebook right so i've not it's not sorry because facebook is a massive platform with millions of

01:03:35.780 people just constantly scrolling right billions of people sorry just constantly scrolling so the every

01:03:42.220 time someone flips up the algorithm's right i've got to get a new slate of posts that seem relevant to

01:03:48.020 this person's interest to fill this fill the feed and youtube does the same where it's like we you

01:03:53.220 youtube youtube tries to maximize the chances of you clicking on a video right but that's not what

01:03:59.140 twitter is trying to maximize because it's a different platform right so twitter lives or dies on the

01:04:03.600 impressions of the quality of the impressions whereas youtube lives or dies on whether you click on

01:04:07.920 the thing and so it's a different incentive and a different mechanism for delivery right so you don't

01:04:15.280 need to reply hundreds of times a day to grow an account on twitter you don't no you absolutely don't

01:04:19.720 no so on facebook you've got billions of people who are constantly scrolling yeah posting loads and

01:04:24.280 loads of stuff means you're put in front of more and more and more people right with youtube you put

01:04:28.960 up three four videos you get more impressions in aggregate than you do if you just post one video

01:04:34.080 makes sense yeah so the the the crypto twitter guys have taken the algorithms for other platforms

01:04:41.120 and imported them to twitter the the governing philosophy but twitter doesn't work that way

01:04:46.620 and so the crypto twitter guys started just posting gm good morning good morning uh under each

01:04:53.980 other's posts constantly spamming gm with pepe images and stuff each other each other yeah and so

01:04:59.120 this sort of closed loop yeah right and so you know oh i'm part of crypto twitter so i'm in this

01:05:03.620 network and so everyone on the network is just constantly gm gm gm gm gm gm which okay great

01:05:09.040 trying to game the system a bit or the way they thought the system worked at least if if we all

01:05:13.540 get loads of interaction then the algorithm boosts us right if look at if we're all interacting and

01:05:18.820 it was kind of the same in india where they were like verified accounts replying with nonsense to

01:05:22.240 each other to get money out of the system which elon put a damper on uh but so you've got these

01:05:27.620 people who have mistakenly thought that twitter acts in the same way as every other social media

01:05:32.120 platform so it's just number of posts means increased reach and nick's like well uh no actually each

01:05:37.340 time you post it uses some of your reach for the day right we can't show all your posts to all your

01:05:42.700 followers because the average user only views 20 to 30 posts a day so there we are there now you see

01:05:49.580 the sort of okay if you had billions of people who are just constantly scrolling like on facebook or

01:05:54.400 instagram because the content isn't high pressure on twitter there is a lot of rage bait and there's

01:06:01.160 always been a lot of rage bait there's a lot of arguments there's a lot of uh it's where the news is

01:06:05.900 broken and so twitter is an intense environment actually on social media to spend your time in

01:06:11.000 uh on facebook you've got a lot of ai slop cat videos stuff like that not intense right so if

01:06:18.080 you're just bored just in front of the tv just scroll for the sake of it you probably go through

01:06:21.920 hundreds of posts on facebook but on twitter it's a bit more intense so only about 20 30 views a day

01:06:27.000 and so actually the number of things that are being posted can't be served to all of the people

01:06:33.300 that many times right so if you were like oh why didn't this one get you know 100 000 impressions

01:06:38.560 well there is a limit to the number of impressions that can be given because of the number of people

01:06:44.320 using the platform right and so actually twitter has to essentially figure out how many impressions

01:06:50.620 per day a a person a user can get in order to kind of slice up who gets to see what because the

01:06:58.140 algorithm has to figure this out otherwise they're going to be users who are just getting no impressions

01:07:03.840 because they were just unlucky that day or just left out of this sort of you know oh no all of the

01:07:08.400 impressions that the platform has in that day have all been used sorry so you can just tweet into the

01:07:13.780 void forever or you can have a sort of allocated number and that's what he's saying here right so

01:07:20.080 crypto twitter ends up wasting all their reach on replying gm much of the times when they finally post

01:07:26.260 real content like a project announcement it only gets shown to three people crypto twitter is dying

01:07:30.860 from suicide not from the algorithm i mean if that's true and i've got absolutely no reason to

01:07:36.040 doubt nikita beer um yeah sounds like yeah it's from suicide then you've you've tried to game the

01:07:42.720 system on an incorrect assumption yes and it's ruined yourself it's ruined you yeah um and so people

01:07:49.720 were kind of unhappy with this they're like oh right okay i'm not allowed to spam gm hundreds of times

01:07:54.700 like it's not even you're not allowed you can do it it's just each one will be seen very very few

01:07:59.620 times because there are only so many people who can see the post that you're making and so you know

01:08:05.540 people like you know just making you know this is an article with just nothing with gm with memes and

01:08:11.140 stuff you know okay yeah that's fine don't get me wrong this is really funny it is very funny twitter

01:08:16.520 is funny yeah it is largely the pepe stuff is always funny i always love pepe um sorry i'll just

01:08:24.380 just real quick say my experience of twitter to get any sort of traction on it or get a tweet that go

01:08:30.380 that does well yeah um my my entire experience is that if you say something real and authentic that

01:08:37.200 speaks to people and people agree with you get clicks and likes and therefore oh do you twitter

01:08:42.940 it shows you to more people it's quite it's kind of as simple as that you're not trying to game

01:08:48.080 anyone or anything other than being interesting or funny or relevant just do that just try and do

01:08:54.020 that but crypto is about typing gm and complaining right like why am i getting views what's going on

01:09:01.860 here right and as nick points out here dm i get every day you need to increase rate limits i keep

01:09:09.180 getting locked out of the app i check their account user is running a script that replies good

01:09:12.720 morning and yes totally agree to thousands of posts as in twitter is optimizing for value

01:09:20.620 it is not optimizing for quantity because actually quantity is kind of bad for twitter because they

01:09:27.280 are the smallest of the big social media platforms all right so actually what you want and uh nick uh

01:09:32.440 does say this in fact directly uh oh sorry before we get onto that this is the uh the crypto twitter

01:09:38.440 response uh how to gm on x without getting banned uh lessons from his post and i mean so they're still

01:09:44.600 committed to the gm yes strategy yes okay they're still like make them feel human handling gm in your

01:09:51.800 own post don't reply to every single one just reply to some of them you know like what no no you're

01:09:56.160 still trying to game the system you're missing the point and what has this got to do with crypto

01:10:00.700 have we lost i have no idea i've okay i spent all morning researching this and i have learned

01:10:07.980 nothing about crypto cards but i know exactly how the algorithm on twitter works so that was useful

01:10:13.480 you know that was actually a really useful thing um but the point is what they're doing essentially

01:10:18.120 gets considered a spam right now it is isn't it it is yes if you set up a bot that sets there and

01:10:24.380 goes right i want you to gm a thousand posts or something this morning the boss like well that's

01:10:29.180 obviously spam what are you doing right and so this is nikita's uh problem with it it's like look

01:10:35.760 right if it's actual discussion people are reading that's good if it's just replying gm or cash

01:10:40.740 tagging a coin with no relevance to the parent post it will be ranked no better than spam because that

01:10:45.100 is basically what this is and how do you expect an algorithm to not read it like that like okay it's

01:10:51.120 just posting nonsense that's not getting any real engagement that nobody actually wants to see

01:10:55.440 that it makes no one's experience on the platform more interesting so why would we promote this

01:11:01.880 i mean even i with a relatively small pretty small twitter account like 30 or thousand like

01:11:06.700 you i'll get replies that it's just someone doesn't follow me and i don't follow them and it just says

01:11:11.100 you want to know more about crypto click my link click the link yeah and you just ignore it or even i

01:11:16.000 just quite often block that person i'm not interested as a bot or it's someone that's just trying to

01:11:20.520 just block them or not interested mute them whatever yeah um that the algorithm algorithm

01:11:25.620 treats them that way fine i've got no problem with that do that yeah i don't care like it's yeah

01:11:30.600 and this this is why those guys are coming up in the spam it's like hidden replies maybe spam

01:11:35.120 you click it it's a crypto thing it's like well the algorithm thinks you're spam because all you do is

01:11:40.660 spam this because you think the number of posts equals a number of impressions and actually that's not the

01:11:45.920 way this works right uh as he says here each time you post three word slop you dig yourself deeper

01:11:51.540 into algorithmic hell yeah like stop posting pointless waste of time things on twitter if you

01:11:58.460 want reach like and again it's just about the the constrained nature of twitter it's very quick to

01:12:04.560 tweet it's very easy to tweet but there is a much smaller audience for those tweets overall compared to

01:12:11.020 a facebook post which takes longer to make a youtube video which takes way more to make than a twitter

01:12:16.780 post and yet you know like there's a much bigger audience for a smaller number of videos every day

01:12:23.760 like god knows how many like hundreds of millions of tweets are sent every day to 600 million people

01:12:29.620 right if it's you know maybe it's like 500 million tweets a day 600 million people yeah now you see

01:12:36.500 why your reach is so limited right it's like you can't serve that many tweets to that few people

01:12:42.940 it's just the nature of the beast so what you've got to do is make sure each tweet

01:12:46.500 counts right it's a very competitive marketplace and you were spamming it being like yeah i'm just

01:12:52.300 gonna be jim jim jim jim oh i'm getting no reach yeah because you're you're pissing into a very 0.98

01:12:56.640 very big ocean of tweets i'm wondering while nobody's noticing right do something actually useful

01:13:03.480 say something interesting exactly or funny or entertaining or amusing in some way yeah just gm

01:13:11.860 is is it's nothing there's no value there's no use exactly and he says look if you're an algorithm

01:13:16.920 how would you judge quality of these posts would you show the users post next to anyone or would

01:13:21.180 you give that slot somebody wrote an essay or recorded a video you know it's just like

01:13:24.800 there's no real value to any of these posts right and that is basically what the philosophy of twitter

01:13:35.160 is under nikita beer right and i assume that he's there because elon endorsed him and because he wants

01:13:41.180 unregretted user seconds on the platform right and so he says this and this is this is essentially what

01:13:49.320 you need to think about if you want to get rich on x it isn't going to be through creator revenue or

01:13:53.720 mean coins instead think about one subject matter that you know more about than anyone else in the

01:13:58.320 world it can be anything plumbing menswear uh indian food furniture social apps whatever

01:14:03.600 you know this is how uh was it derrick guy has got like three million followers or something on

01:14:08.440 twitter i don't know who that is the menswear guy who keeps criticizing right wingers dress does he okay

01:14:13.240 yeah that's all he does right and it's it's it's kind of funny actually i don't even mind it but we're

01:14:16.940 not dapper enough well we are but well we are obviously yeah but milo you're not Andrew tate on right okay

01:14:22.420 uh anyway post one unexpected insight that you picked from your experience in that area

01:14:28.200 keep it under five sentences do this every day for six months if you stick to it we will promote

01:14:33.740 your account to others because you'll be posting tweets that are novel innovative and have value

01:14:38.400 you've told someone something that they didn't already know right they've learned something from

01:14:43.100 you it was worthwhile you tweeting that thing is what he's saying right by the end you'll be recognized

01:14:48.540 as the world's leading expert in that subject area and you can charge whatever you want for

01:14:52.680 endorsements your time or whatever and no one will be able to take that away from you he's saying

01:14:56.780 build a career build a character become the thing by actually doing the work and instead gm gm gm

01:15:07.400 i'm gonna get you know five billion impressions and get all the advertising that's not how twitter

01:15:11.880 works that's not how you make money on twitter and so the philosophy of twitter is basically

01:15:16.860 contribute value yeah that's it contribute value and you will get reach that's good though that's

01:15:24.380 great that's great to me yes because there's because there's no substitute for doing real work

01:15:32.060 like doing that's correct doing the reading right that's what we'd often say if you know if you do a

01:15:37.380 humanities degree anyway you can't there's no say in the office there's no substitute to actually doing

01:15:41.740 the reading um even with just twitter trying to build a twitter account above 200 followers just

01:15:48.560 actually say something that's interesting it's not just yeah and you doesn't it doesn't have to be

01:15:54.260 more than one tweet a day even really does it i mean i my my average on twitter is about 20 tweets

01:16:00.640 a day which yeah which sounds like a lot but it's actually really low um yeah i don't even i don't

01:16:05.540 do anything near that you probably do you some days some days you'd be surprised how easy it is

01:16:11.000 to tweet that's the thing right you'd be surprised how many tweets you put out like i mean like you

01:16:15.740 know there are people who tweet hundreds of times a day yeah but even though that's not that much

01:16:20.200 you know there are people who tweet thousands of times a day you know i tried to get it down below

01:16:23.700 20 just because that makes each tweet more impactful right if you actually look at my twitter feed

01:16:28.540 like i've i don't tweet that much but when i tweet because i try to make it a more impactful tweet

01:16:34.920 you know that goes further i'll get a lot of uh views and likes and retweets and whatnot on it you

01:16:39.840 know so like that's how twitter is done it's actually about the less is very much more on twitter

01:16:44.860 anyway after after a few hours of wrangling with the crypto bros

01:16:49.460 you i can feel his pain man i can get a lot of things i like the crypto bros they're obviously very

01:16:56.480 right-wing coded and you know i like the memes they're funny right but they're approaching the

01:17:01.740 problem in the wrong way they're not going to get the results they're looking for and i

01:17:04.780 think structurally they can't right it seems sensible and the only way to actually do twitter

01:17:09.940 is to focus it around value that is actually could created from the posts yeah i've got nothing

01:17:17.160 against crypto bros i'm interested in crypto tell me something real i don't learn tell me something

01:17:22.180 real about crypto markets what moves crypto markets don't talk to me talk to me goose come on just don't

01:17:28.620 give me gm yeah i can't work with that you're giving me nothing here put gm at the beginning of an

01:17:33.480 interesting post right yeah do that gm this is what you need to do to invest in bitcoin like i

01:17:38.200 don't know about investing bitcoin you know you could be helping me out here uh anyway people

01:17:42.600 will uh like uh dragging him and he's just like he's taking a good good humor to be honest you know

01:17:48.240 you've got two you've got that one yeah yeah yeah and he tweeted out this morning gm it's fixed

01:17:53.740 i don't know what that's a troll surely he's trolling i've no idea like i don't know what you know

01:18:00.180 what can be fixed because of the issue with the the the position of twitter on the market basically

01:18:06.760 in the social media game so i don't know what can be fixed no explanation whatever i mean maybe he

01:18:12.160 explains it before the down actually yeah no uh seeing more of his followers i don't know i think

01:18:17.220 he's probably trolling yeah but the but the point is these guys have just approached uh twitter in

01:18:21.880 completely the wrong way actually the design philosophy is quite a good one yeah i think so maximize value

01:18:27.340 make your post worthwhile and this is why like every now and again you'll tweet something kind

01:18:31.340 of offhand but it'll click in a bunch of people's minds like i had one the other day that was just

01:18:36.620 153 000 likes and i was just like i did that like just on the toilet not thinking about it you know it's

01:18:43.560 like and then suddenly like you know 10 million people have seen or something it's like oh jesus

01:18:48.040 i had for that i had a relatively for me a relatively successful tweet the other day just something

01:18:52.740 about saturn yeah and it was like it was just a i never thought for a million in fact i suspected

01:18:57.700 it wouldn't be very well at all but for whatever reason it was kind of interesting i suppose and

01:19:02.180 for whatever reason it did well again for me and um yeah it was just a throwaway thing i wasn't trying

01:19:06.720 to calculate how can i get the most possible engagement how can i game twitter and win twitter

01:19:12.300 it wasn't that it was just like here's something i think is interesting throw it out to the world

01:19:15.660 maybe some people will and that's what twitter is optimized for right interesting things that people

01:19:21.200 are actually going to talk about or enjoy so that's how to win twitter crypto bros uh let's

01:19:27.060 go to the video comments uh hewitt says nigel is so keen to shed his racist image he'd welcome

01:19:32.280 abu hamza to the party i think i read that but yeah i think it's true um the boys at low seaters

01:19:37.480 deserve peerages more than zahawi lord benjamin of swendon lord dade of clifton pub and grill

01:19:41.920 lord dan of the spearman rider and also charles should promote dankula and to a duke uh

01:19:47.480 to a count do we have we don't have counts do we no no no

01:19:51.200 um it's just shame really it could be an earl or a duke can't it be a baron

01:19:55.940 any lord is a baron or any lord peerage is a baronage oh is it yeah all right okay

01:20:01.520 fair enough i don't know how it works let's go through the video comments

01:20:05.040 so do you know who the last white girl to get unalived by law enforcement in minneapolis was 0.99

01:20:13.300 before renee good no you don't and i bet you don't know that the person who did it

01:20:20.440 was the first somali police officer in the entire united states and that they were convicted of murder

01:20:26.760 and it was later overturned by the minnesota supreme court and they only served a couple years

01:20:31.720 you bet you didn't know that did you i did not know that i did not know that that was news that's

01:20:37.800 news to me there we go okay let's get the next one uh here we are and if you in fact if you look

01:20:46.780 come to think of it well i gotta look at this myself

01:20:52.160 brilliant love it

01:20:56.780 wow

01:20:59.160 what a good view

01:21:02.460 you know all right i don't care what trump does i just love the way he deals with these things

01:21:08.420 like the the press conference like in this press conference marco rubio hands him a note that's

01:21:14.580 meant to be like you know you need to ask that guy you know you need to ask this guy about oil

01:21:19.660 or whatever and he just reads it out and it's like that was meant to be a hint from rubio and

01:21:26.000 trump just laughs off he's like yeah whatever i don't care you see rubio also a bit laughed like

01:21:29.940 yeah yeah yeah yeah because rubio is obviously a genuinely impressed with rubio he's doing a great

01:21:33.920 job not bad he has grown in my estimation very much he's the dark horse of the administration like

01:21:39.480 i didn't think that you know rubio would come out as hard line and he's he's deliberately

01:21:44.500 incited in a bunch of things that actually he didn't have to but are good to do you know like

01:21:48.920 preventing various leftists from going to america so you know get bent you know no we don't like you

01:21:53.660 and we're making this note it's like you don't have to do that but good for you for doing it if

01:21:56.840 you'd asked me 18 months ago two years ago would i be happy with the president rubio i would have

01:22:01.240 said no why would i but right now i'd be like i'll take it it's not too bad yeah i mean i like vance

01:22:06.820 just fine don't get me wrong but rubio has been and what i like about it as well he's he just

01:22:11.260 comes out and just straightforwardly says no this is what why i'm doing it this is the reason it's

01:22:14.920 like okay i that's not a bad reason you know i feel like trump has very much um enabled him

01:22:20.840 to yeah to become himself a bit more i don't know if that's really just you know trump gives him

01:22:29.100 carte blanche to to say how to say it as it is yeah get it done and he's he's he's living up to

01:22:36.680 that it seems to me so everyone wants a lieutenant like rubio i tell you that's exactly the kind of

01:22:42.140 lieutenant you are so yeah just go and deal with those like yes sir you know let's go to the next

01:22:46.760 one i came across this headline and a thought occurred to me europe has been trying to establish

01:22:51.240 itself as a rival block to the usa since at least the 1990s they show a good amount of disrespect to

01:22:55.300 the usa and most don't pay their nato contributions how does the usa ensure appropriate defense for

01:22:59.380 strategically important territory that belongs to an ally asking denmark to invest more in defense

01:23:03.300 be firmly rebuked citing sovereignty over the territory but provoking them we're going to put

01:23:07.300 boots on the ground in greenland nay i might be wrong but allies sending troops to defend their

01:23:12.540 own territory seems like it's in the usa's interest and maybe that's the plan all along

01:23:15.780 you know what i can't rule it out yeah you know that's a fair take there from scotty i can't help

01:23:24.420 but think that trump genuinely wants greenland though yeah again i'm prepared to absolutely take him at his

01:23:29.700 word yeah that he really really does think believe that if he doesn't take it if the united states

01:23:34.860 doesn't formally take it and exit own it that china or russia will i mean it might on the face of it

01:23:41.660 that seems far-fetched and unlikely but perhaps not and the point is that he really thinks that

01:23:47.120 and i think he does and the thing is he's got this kind of habit of kind of looking into success as

01:23:53.020 well like looking into things kind of going his way and so like as scotty's pointing out it's like

01:23:58.840 okay he might have wanted greenland let's say he doesn't get it but now the eu's like oh we've got

01:24:02.680 stationed troops all over here so he's kind of got the thing that he wanted anyway just by being

01:24:07.020 a bit belligerent about it so it is kind of funny and uh 40 chess not 40 chess i know uh like with this

01:24:15.500 venezuela thing i can't help but feel that trump's gonna win like everyone's like oh could go completely

01:24:20.740 south like iraq it's like yeah maybe but there's someone about it that just feels like trump's gonna

01:24:25.680 get what he wants and it'll probably work out for the best i think like that just real quick to say

01:24:29.400 is that venezuelan society civil society is nothing like iraqi yeah it's not like um a sectarian

01:24:38.180 nightmare waiting to happen that's not what venezuela is so so this this is what i mean it's like

01:24:44.060 and the thing is the way he did it as well is okay oh you just kidnapped the president yeah but

01:24:49.960 you're all fine you're all fine like it's it's it's kind of just a dunk on maduro like it's like

01:24:56.480 yeah yeah we just kidnapped the president like 80 of his cuban guards died or something you don't care

01:25:00.760 about those that's not your friends and family you know they were his like praetorian communist guard

01:25:05.000 and so like no significant damage is done nobody's like there's no like trail of blood and mountains

01:25:10.860 of bodies it's just like you know you just kidnap the dictator and get on with your lives you know

01:25:16.460 it's kind of funny it is it is a chad move in in the context of history yeah it's a pretty chad move

01:25:23.480 yeah yeah but it's also like it's kind it's left the just kind of headless chickens like oh god what

01:25:28.180 do we do now yeah you exactly what do you do now who knows just you know like we'll run it don't

01:25:33.560 worry about it yeah yeah exactly the old one option on the table is donald trump right oh no no we need

01:25:38.420 to get this sorted because already already that oh yeah we're willing to work with the trump

01:25:41.460 administration of course you are because they just kidnapped a dictator like what are your

01:25:44.940 options here you haven't got many options right yeah and so i i can't help but feel that trump is

01:25:49.380 just going to kind of look into success with venezuela now don't get me wrong throw this in

01:25:53.320 my face if it turns into a massive bloodbath i'm happy to concede that i could completely be wrong

01:25:58.640 on this but i've just got this feeling in my gut anyway uh russian says uh would you rather come

01:26:04.280 across a bear or an ice agent in front of your car well i mean i'm not going to drive into the ice

01:26:09.980 agent right yeah yeah what's going on bro an ice agent who i'd be perfectly polite to there's a

01:26:16.360 smiley over there yeah are you missing one look he's getting away what are you wasting time with me

01:26:20.580 for bears seem terrifying to me yeah they are yeah like a bit a big bear anyway well yeah like even

01:26:27.900 just um curling up and trying to play dead or trying to fight back with a big cat or anything no no if it

01:26:32.780 decides it wants to rip you limb from limb it's gonna do that i've heard that's that's a terrifying

01:26:36.420 monster i've read such horrible stories about bear attacks as well it just holds you down start eating

01:26:40.940 you alive and stuff like you know they're so much stronger than you oh god it's horrific yeah

01:26:46.180 uh anyway maria says uh the plight that liberal women face is one of their making and sadly a the

01:26:52.900 simple truth is that one cannot save a person who insists on running into a burning building

01:26:56.100 nor should one try to and that's honestly the truth of it isn't it i mean like look you know

01:27:01.340 they desperately want to be doing something and it's like sorry you know there actually

01:27:07.240 isn't a place for you dealing with the smiley immigrants yeah like go go pick up your kids 1.00

01:27:12.560 from school that's what you should be doing yeah make sure that your neighbor hasn't run out of

01:27:17.460 petrol or gas or firewood or whatever it is it's winter in minnesota it's cold make sure they bring

01:27:22.680 them some blankets you know like you know turn the heating on for them whatever it is you know you've

01:27:27.040 got other real people to help around you not hypothetical somali criminals um baron van warhawk

01:27:33.240 says they're focusing so much on the crazy car lady in order to cover up the fraud uh well yeah

01:27:37.440 uh the more time that is spent discuss the justified shooting of someone trying to run over

01:27:41.800 an ice agent means that the somalis and the democrats have more time to destroy evidence

01:27:45.540 while the public is distracted a fair point you know don't know if that's definitely the case but

01:27:50.780 i wouldn't be surprised it may well be yeah it makes sense doesn't it i mean they're probably

01:27:54.620 just glad for the the cover frankly even if it wasn't on purpose but uh but it's it's just one

01:27:59.500 of those things where it's like i i'm not even i don't want to get into the like left or right who

01:28:04.220 did what of it because it's just like look both sides have their own different realities at this

01:28:08.900 point so yeah derek says uh if it if anything is like the handmaid's tale it's the women who served

01:28:15.620 as surrogates for degenerate couples well i mean like none of it's the handmaid's tale because the

01:28:20.300 handmaid's tale was so for i i watched the series okay i never watched it so basically uh most women 1.00

01:28:26.400 in the world are no longer fertile and so the circle of fertile women has shrunk to a very small

01:28:31.840 number of women and so it's a really weird dystopia though because if all women or almost all women

01:28:38.480 became infertile why would the rich powerful men marry the infertile women they would marry suddenly 1.00

01:28:43.960 being fertile would put you at the very top hierarchy rank of the hierarchy of society right 0.99

01:28:49.580 you'd be the most important women in the world instead they're treated as sex slaves for these 1.00

01:28:54.980 rich couples who can't have babies so the guy has sex with her against their will and she then bears 1.00

01:29:00.860 his child right but it's like but why why is that woman who's infertile a high status woman 1.00

01:29:06.480 she wouldn't be she'd be like okay you're just a fertile woman like millions of others but the few 1.00

01:29:11.640 women who are fertile they'd be the ones who marry the rich billionaires right so it doesn't it does 1.00

01:29:16.820 make sense as a premise but you're thinking about it in like real terms not the how would society

01:29:21.480 actually be who's the woman who wrote it i can't remember her name margaret atwood yeah so that

01:29:25.720 doesn't serve her narrative to write a story like that does it her narrative is that i'm being held

01:29:30.840 down and forcibly impregnated it's like okay but that's not what would happen if that you know

01:29:36.580 she's really insufferable have you ever seen her in an interview yeah she's unbelievably woke 0.99

01:29:40.580 yeah insufferable truly yeah and she thinks for herself like a fucking sorry she thinks for 0.99

01:29:46.560 herself like a prophet as well oh yeah yeah like she's got all the answers she's figured out the 0.96

01:29:50.900 world yeah and this is definitely gonna happen it's definitely gonna happen that you're gonna be 1.00

01:29:55.000 held down and impregnated against your words that's not happening bro you're a mad old witch 0.99

01:29:59.120 yeah yeah yeah you've lost your mind somewhere along the line and and this is starting to feel like a 0.99

01:30:04.080 fantasy for you well uh anyway uh somebody says i was outside the supreme court when roe was

01:30:10.420 overturned post-menopausal women show up wearing handmaid's robes within the first few hours so 1.00

01:30:15.020 yeah oh no it's a handmaid's tale because i can't have irresponsible sex and then murder my baby 0.96

01:30:19.600 it's like okay i mean that's not what the handmaid's tale handmaid's tale is but i'll take it 0.97

01:30:25.560 arizona desert rat says they're thinking i'm not getting what i want when i want therefore i'm

01:30:31.220 repressed uh no it's not uh nicholas says if you bring your children to a right you need to be

01:30:36.200 arrested for child engagement well obviously that's the thing seems fair and says reform will

01:30:41.700 be crippled by farage's insistence that major party leaders are not perceived as smarter than nigel is 0.51

01:30:46.140 yeah this is nigel's problem man is the the fear of competent people around him it's like you've got 0.82

01:30:52.560 to stop being worried about like the remember when rupert lowe was like uh i essentially publicly

01:30:57.960 disagreed with nigel the first thing nigel did i think it was talk tv or something like that 0.57

01:31:01.920 it was like he was trying to seize control of the party he's like no he just contradicted you in

01:31:05.580 public he just contradicted you he can't seize control of the party like that can't happen but uh

01:31:11.960 he uh unbelievably afraid of that uh dundee douchebag next headline tony blur joins reform yeah i mean 0.59

01:31:18.680 it's inevitable omar say is crypto bros not understanding supply or demand for the attention

01:31:25.240 economy doesn't bode well for their endeavors in the economy it's like yeah you think they would

01:31:31.040 yeah yeah you think they would uh but the thing is like again the it is at least very interesting

01:31:37.180 that we got to find out how twitter's algorithm works what the governing philosophy of twitter was

01:31:41.540 so if you want to succeed at twitter uh be interesting literally that be interesting

01:31:46.880 when i i've i've said this right from the very beginning don't waste people's time if you want

01:31:53.860 to be a content creator don't waste my time you know right just that's the only thing don't waste my

01:31:59.440 time uh and uh white rider says they cannot they also cannot they also think this cannot be true

01:32:05.620 because elon gets loads of reach replying wow to things as if there's not a difference with him

01:32:09.860 there being the owner also he's the most followed man on earth yeah he has something like 250 million

01:32:15.020 twitter followers like 239 million or something like that like he can afford to tweet wow and lots

01:32:21.680 of people will see it because of the size of his account if you've got 2 000 followers don't waste your

01:32:27.020 reach going gm gm gm yeah what are you doing yeah there's a certain point in all sorts of things not

01:32:32.320 just twitter most things in life most things in fact in the cosmos well after a certain point you can't

01:32:38.380 help but keep winning yes scale is yeah and so that applies to elon's personal twitter account

01:32:45.000 yes very much of course it does again it's probably the largest social media account in existence

01:32:50.620 it's probably got the biggest voice of any human ever to have lived yes right no human has ever been

01:32:56.480 as scrutinized in that way and i'm not just trying to be sycophantic for the i'm thinking that's a

01:33:00.760 statement of fact yes right like think think of your average emperor roman emperor or chinese emperor

01:33:05.420 okay they might have like you know 500 million uh people in the empire or whatever but how many

01:33:12.000 people actually see the emperor on a daily basis yeah right a couple of thousand at most you know

01:33:16.920 elon musk has 200 plus million looking at everything he says like whenever he has a thought he's like

01:33:22.840 wow you know 200 million people see it's like jesus christ man that is a scale to which we were not

01:33:28.940 previously prepared to deal yeah there's no precedent for that is there no history it's

01:33:33.700 man history no no one thought this would be the case anyway we are out of time i was just going

01:33:38.000 over because it was interesting stuff anyway thanks for joining us folks get your copy of islander now

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