The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1333
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Summary
Join Faraz, Faraz and Nate as they discuss the dystopia that is Australia and the hate speech laws that have been passed by the government in order to silence its own people and keep them silent. They discuss the horrors of the anti-semitism and hate speech legislation that has been in place in Australia since 1995, and how it has been used to suppress freedom of expression.
Transcript
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hello and welcome to podcast of the lotus eaters episode uh one three three three on uh thursday
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the 15th of january the year of our lord 2026 and i'm joined by faraz hello and uh guest nate
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hello again yes all right um now we are we are aware that um robert jenryk has apparently been
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booted out of the tories because he was about to defect but we haven't got time to write a segment
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on that so we're not going to talk about that um instead we are going to talk about how um
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australia is actually even more of a dystopia than britain it just has nicer weather so we don't
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realize um that's that's you isn't it for us yes yes um then i've got a good news segment for you
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women are having their rights taken away and nate has got something about the chagos islands yeah a
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bit of an update a bit of a drama of an update yeah yeah so oh and also um by island there we go
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there we go by islander and uh you actually kind of need to get on with it if you are because we've
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sold a lot and it's like week one uh and we're probably going to run out a lot sooner than we
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normally do so so bear that in mind um and with that um over to neighbors yes so uh i don't think
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anybody has forgotten the lunacy of australia's lockdowns uh people were concentration camps they
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built yeah yeah they they built concentration camps for people who were suspected of maybe being
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infected uh you couldn't leave your house and you had government workers dropping off sloppy food
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to your door um because you weren't allowed to go anywhere and if you did go anywhere you might get
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beaten by the police every once in a while or get shot with pepper pepper spray and all of that
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they even used the military and had helicopters flying around making sure there wasn't some evil
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random australian taking a walk in the park or something so all of the worst brutality videos that
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i saw during the covid period yes all of the worst ones came out of australia yes yes and then of
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course we had the um bondi massacre we covered that uh on on here on the podcast where uh navid and
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siraj something something akram i think it was whatever it was decided to form a father and son team
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to go and murder uh i think it was 16 aussies mostly jews and injure some 40 people
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and so the response to that was to tighten hate speech laws while focusing specifically
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on the far right and giving islam an exemption wait wait wait what yes yes yes and i'll get to
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that in a moment and i'll get to that in a moment you couldn't make it up i mean if i told you that
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the australian government wanted to silence its people and absolutely hated their guts you i would
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sound crazy but that seems to be the truth and there doesn't seem to be any other kind of explanation
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is a bizarre society because it's it should be full of anglos well but but but but but but but but is it
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a bizarre society because it was founded with two distinct groups wasn't it right prisoners and prison
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guards so they're just they're just living downstream of that right well let's just say that the uh that
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the worst prison guards are in charge of australia right now and they're trying to consolidate their
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grip over the country um so they've come up with a law called the anti-semitism and hate and extremism
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blah blah blah legislation which allows them to pretty much shut down anything and they gave themselves
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just two days for the public to review it the time to review it has already passed now it seems
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that between the time that we prepared this segment and now it's looking unlikely that it will pass
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but it's looking certain that they will try again the law is absolutely superfluous there's no need for
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it whatsoever the issue is about enforcing existing legislation and policing radical islam
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that's always the case though with these situations yeah i actually just just enforce the laws that
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are already in place maybe don't you don't need to legislate even further like this is all this
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stuff is already against the law in some shape or form anyway just so hate speech has been a crime
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in australia since 1995 yeah it's not new they've been well ahead of the curve on this stuff sadly um sadly
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so they decided to go a little bit all out and i'm going to just mention a couple of things and discuss
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what the law looks like um it basically criminalizes causing fear what yes so if how that's so subjective
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even the hate thing so subjective but this is even this is even worse yeah yeah yeah what's worse now is
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liberal women who are afraid of literally everything yeah well yes well yes several generations now of
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complete wet wipes i mean everyone's everyone's afraid of everything now so so so basically you're
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guilty if the conduct would in the all the circumstances as in all of the examples above
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cause a reasonable person who is the target or a member of the target group to be intimidated
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to fear harassment or violence or to fear for their safety which is about as vague as it gets
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but if i was living in australia the number one thing i'll be afraid of by some margin is the australian
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government yeah that's hate speech mate um i mean remember why aren't they denied carl benjamin a visa
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yes because they thought that he was more dangerous than the people who they had given visas
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including the bondi beach shooters so these are not reasonable people that we're dealing with and
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we should stop pretending that we're dealing with reasonable let alone well-intentioned people
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um but just causing fear for a group is a crime and so if statistics cause you fear
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which going by the number of people who refuse to understand per capita does seem to be the case
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um public places me includes private land this is this is wonderful the definition of a public place
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is everything includes private land australia yes so i don't understand why they're focusing on
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public places if it includes private land but but it does but it does and anything on the internet
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or that is disseminated or that is whatever that's included in the law
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um it's irrelevant if the hatred actually occurs if you're inciting hatred and accused of inciting
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hatred but no hatred follows like i try to explain to you that look there's a real dense
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danger from jihadism you don't listen to me i've still committed a hate speech yeah this is this is um
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an actual non-crime hate crime so that's basically but they but now this is actually a crime so that's
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what we have in this country isn't it non-crime hate incidents yes yes but however actually a crime
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now if you look at how they've tightened the prison penalties some of the prison penalties for this
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for these things are 12 years and 15 years so don't don't underestimate these bastards oh no no
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i'm not underestimate i'm i'm this um i'm saying it's the non-crime hate instances on steroids
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but this this was an old philosophical question if if a tree falls down in the woods and nobody
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hears it did it fall down kind of thing if if i go for a walk in the woods and i say a racial slur
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that's 15 years in prison even if nobody heard it it might be just five okay right it might be
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you know i'm lucky like i haven't just five i haven't looked at it in in in the kind of detail
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that i want because they only gave 20 48 hours for people to review it so it's not that i was being
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lazy or anything i tried um they can declare any kind of prohibited group and there is no procedural
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fairness requirement well like opposition parties for example what makes you say that well because
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that's the most awful thing that i can think of them immediately doing with this well it just so
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happens that the as far as i'm concerned the objective is the white australia party oh love it
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uh like the age i say predictable is too short of like the prime minister the new south wales premier
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vowed to do everything in his power to stop uh the national socialist network from from organizing and
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elbow uh albanese whatever his last name is the prime minister has vowed to make sure that the white
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australia party can't be allowed to run so they're sort of doing this to target anybody who's not with
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the agenda and if you look at the bill it's a genuine freaking horror show let me give you an example
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the purpose is of of various uh clauses in this bill is to protect the australian community against
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social economic psychological and physical harm i don't think the government's job is to protect
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my psychological well-being i could be crazy what's the government or my social well-being
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governments are terrible at protecting people from economic harm they're destroying everyone's economy
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don't you dare mention that migration brings down wages and raises housing costs and therefore causes
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economic damage because that would be a hate crime oh you can't hate him enough yeah and there's
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it's very specific it's basically anybody who doesn't agree with the current thing don't dissent
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criminal yes yes we're on we're on this train and you're not getting off and you're not getting
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off exactly exactly yeah we're riding this train all the way to oblivion brilliant if like it becomes
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a hate crime if the person's conduct constituting the offense was motivated whether wholly or in part
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by hatred of another person or a group of persons how do you and that hatred was because the person's
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belief that the target person or persons are distinguished by race national or ethnic origin so
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sorry sorry they're defining what they're defining so they're counting so if if they think i hate you
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because you're white obviously that's okay but let's assume that it wasn't if they think that i hate you
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because of your race they don't have to really prove it it could be wholly or in part um by hatred you can't
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notice any differences then if you notice any differences so crime statistics uh statistics about
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somali's welfare dependence and propensity for fraud uh pointing out that there are too many somalis
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working in american airports and the truth is not a defense and the truth is obviously not a defense
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i think germany established that like the truth is always not a defense these kinds of things there's
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this weird evolutionary quirk with australia where everything in it is is unbelievably toxic far more
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toxic than it than it needs to be yeah i always just assume that applied to like the spiders and
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the snakes and stuff but it appears to apply to the government as well yeah yeah yeah um so material
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so if it applies if racial hatred is likely to be stirred up this is why i'm saying that noticing is a crime
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noticing is obviously a crime and the law is intended to ban any kind of of of noticing
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um so funny like if you wouldn't need these laws it well you wouldn't need the laws if you just
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didn't do this to begin with but they obviously are aware of the differences between people obviously
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yes and that's why they implement these kind of policies because yes we've got to keep a lid on
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this pressure cooker as much as possible yes you know it's like diversity is such a strength until
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you notice that diversity is diverse well and i like i always say just talk to anybody from
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lebanon about diversity and then they'll explain it to you um if your intent is just to disseminate
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ideas not cause violence that could be a crime that could be a crime um
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um well you can't even have a positive account of the british empire pretty much what yeah i mean
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it it does sort of seem to apply here uh if you say that the anglosphere has the best political system
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you are expressing supremacist ideas and because you're expressing supremacist ideas you are implying
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that i don't know afghanistan's tribal council the lawyer is inferior to uh westminster democracy when
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it actually worked and that expression of supremacy um go to jail go straight to jail
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oh is it just children playing in politics and we know that it's going to be two-tiered like
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there is no need to waste your time on that um however if you're only quoting your religious texts
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or referencing religious teachings for the purposes of general discussion or teaching religion
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then you're exempt uh yeah but probably not though you know you know not though that when i say that the
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old testament says certain things about usually being bad that that christ kicked out the money
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changers that uh the old testament disapproves of of various behavior that we now refer to as
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lgbt um it's not going to apply to me but you know that when it happens in a mosque it is oh that's
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yeah that's that's all that's fine that's kosher you sort of know from the outset how this is going to
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be applied ah yeah and we could pretend that they are being you know that this is just a mistake
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that they didn't really mean the to discriminate but come on we're all adults here we know what is
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the purpose of this there's no need to pretend that the government isn't governing against its people
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and this applies to pretty much the entirety of the anglosphere and here we are this is an extreme case
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yes there's no way we could have the lotus eaters in australia no no no um and any kind of sharing or
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dissemination of messages like for example let me give you this one is absolutely wild um when it
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comes to defining a member of a band organization a member of an organization includes a person who is
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an informal member of the organization they're not a member so who's not a member well so who's not a
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member which means yes which means that anyone so our australian fans are advised to use vpns i don't
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know these are easily hackable and they don't provide full security um i i don't know what to say
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but if you watch the lotus eaters regularly or comment on our website regularly that could mean
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that you're an informal member of a hate group right has the undersecretary of state for the states
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commented on this yet they the the trump administration has been telling the australians
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they've commented on other things than if you do this right okay and uh yeah sarah waters i believe
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her name is she's been commenting about this stuff and the trump admin has privately warned the aussies
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not to go down that route um you see the usual suspects in australia pauline hansen uh one nation
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all of these guys coming out against this nonsense um and uh i just wanted to remind you in terms of
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how this actually works so there is this religious carve-out clause yeah but when uh israel fulau who's
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a togan rugby player he's now had to go to japan because everybody in australia cancelled him
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when he expressed basic christian views on sexuality the prime minister stepped in to say that his views
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were reprehensible uh etc etc calling him out presumably it was something like oh why doesn't
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a man have a husband or something like that something like yes yes yes a man have a wife sorry i'm so his
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criticism was along the lines of pretty basic traditional christian morality same-sex marriage
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is not a thing homosexual stuff that's been commonplace for the like you know up until
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yeah yeah in civilizational time up until five seconds ago um so saying that from a christian
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perspective that's going to get you in trouble but if you say for example that the christians are
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lying about their scripture as islam does or that all those who believe in the holy trinity are
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kufar and therefore must be fought against etc etc this kind of religious teaching can be exempted
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under the laws it currently stands so basically in australia convert to islam or go to jail
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well if you had doubts about how severe this is i'm going to make you listen to something for three
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minutes oh really and then and then you can sort of see that it's genuinely wild uh let's listen to
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this please in part five the racial vilification defense on page eight uh that works through
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um some of these new offenses just want to turn to where you've spoken about expressions of race color
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and national or ethnic origin um and it says on the fourth line there for example those of jewish origin
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would be protected by the offense um given that jewish people uh i could convert to to judaism uh how then
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do you suggest that you'll be protecting uh jewish people of different ethnic origins under this legislation
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um so for this offense uh that reference draws on the uh racial discrimination act um and uh
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uh it is uh it is uh in that context these terms have been found to encompass jewish people
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also seeks as ethno-religious groups so jewish people as seeks are protected
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uh yes so we're satisfied that that reference to persons or groups distinguished by race color
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national national ethnic okay what about other religious groups would it protect
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uh uh well i'm catholic would it protect uh well i'm catholic would it protect catholic people
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um i mentioned uh that uh i think there has been consideration that it will apply to um
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sikhs as also a ethno-religious group um and in other contexts um uh would depend on the broader range of
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characteristics um but um uh being catholic alone would not constitute race color national ethnic origin
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but it might be that in certain circumstances if there are broader other considerations um that
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meant those individuals formed uh and then she goes on and then she goes on to clearly say that no
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christians in general would not be protected why are so many women in politics can you just get out now
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you are destroying politics this bloody hr childless women trying to protect foreigners because
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they've got nothing to look after in their life just get out of my politics please as as you see in
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the states discussing you're destroying the western world as you see in the states you see liberal
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mothers going out to protect somali migrants yeah so it's not just the childless the virus women are
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more prone to being manipulated and they have been horrifically manipulated but it sounds like what
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this bill is actually doing is criminalizing everybody who is white and christian and it's
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just a question as to whether they enforce it or not on you but if you are white and christian you know
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that there was a there was a guillotine over your head yes essentially that's the purpose of the law
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the law now uh australia's conservatives who are called appropriately liberals uh thought about
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supporting the law but then the uproar on x made sure that they couldn't do it um and then there were
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some other reactions which i'm going to go through in the interest of time uh give me a split second
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here we had the executive council of jewish organizations coming out in australia and saying
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that their problem is that the law wasn't tight enough that they fully support it and they think
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that it should be tightened even further now in case you were wondering about the uh politics of of
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australian jewish jewish people the executive council of australian jewry is the umbrella body
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comparable to the board of deputies in britain um and it has representatives from pretty much every
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single jewish organization in australia that participate in it and it is the uh umbrella group
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that is recognized by the world jewish congress he's mental to me and they've come out and said hold on
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they've come out and said that the legislation is a significant step in the right direction
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but it still suffers some significant shortcomings which will limit its effectiveness they want it to
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be tighter right yeah uh the offense is limited to the promotion of hatred of others on the basis of
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the race promoting hatred based on inherent attributes such as gender identity sexual orientation age or
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disability will not be prescribed the implication being that they should be people who are targeted
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for hatred on the basis of these attributes are equally entitled to protection so their view is
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that this should be tightened even further so sorry let me let me just get this straight so
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muslims attack jews gays most affected yes brilliant um right the proposed offense does not cover
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instances where a person recklessly promotes racial hatred so it should be even tighter again so we're
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still allowed to go after fatties but that's about it yeah yes i suppose no probably not um
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thirdly hold on hold on sojournistic hold on thirdly the dehumanize sorry the proposed offense
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would exempt quoting or referencing religious texts for the purposes of religious teaching
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now don't say gluttony basically so that needs a sin basically this one is interesting because if you
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look at saint paul's criticism of the jews of his time you could pick out pieces in the new testament and
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say that these were anti-semitic um the serious vilification offense will only be established if
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a prosecutor can prove that the conduct would put a reasonable member in fear so instead of saying
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that's absurd to just prosecute people for apparently causing fear because that's that's highly subjective
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this requirement goes beyond guilty renaissance should be decided solely on the basis of the conduct
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and the impact on the victim should be relevant only in determining the sentence meaning that
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just having hatred should be the criminal offense now to be fair the australian jewish association
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which has a much smaller membership and is closer to the likud party in israel and is not considered the
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the establishment organization um has a few thousand members compared to the much wider membership of of
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the executive council put out a statement saying the opposite and they're attacking the australian
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government and they are defending uh speech and they are saying that this is absolutely ridiculous and
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that there are other things that should be done to combat anti-semitism uh but not this nonsense like
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i don't know closing the borders for to islamists you just committed the hate crime you just
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stop committing hate crimes it's just you just can't help yourself mate it's just so it's awesome
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isn't it it's it's mental to me i don't understand why any i mean i'm an englishman so for like uh there
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would be no jews or muslims in this country like i just i'm not interested in any of it but there are jews
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here so it's mental to me that any jew wouldn't be pro just like islamist blockade no it's you're
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mental you're mad there's no self-preservation what i don't understand when you read the old testament
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is why the ecag would want to defend transgenderism and homosexuality and all of that i genuinely don't
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get it this is a fundamentally unbiblical view this is a fundamentally destructive view um the aga
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doesn't criticize that but you know here we are the legislation is i'm looking at the time now the
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legislation is probably going to fail uh not least because there's a bunch of people who are going to
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protest against it on the 26th of january on australia day and remind the government that this
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legislation pretty much makes everybody who likes australia a criminal but also because the greens
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decided that the legislation doesn't go far enough oh great and so they decided to withhold their
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support remind me again how how hate speech helps the environment somehow something magic it helps
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so fortunately this law isn't going to pass by the look of it things could change and the trump admin
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has stepped in and said this is madness and anybody who looks at the thing can clearly see that it's
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absolutely insane um but the greens decided not to let it pass because it doesn't go far enough
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and they were bargaining with the government before it became clear how unpopular this was
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trying to get them to tighten the legislation further and to expand it to cover an even wider range of sane
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so it seems that the aussies dodged the bullet this time but it's not going to last
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when i've tried to do it once i just do it again yes yes exactly brilliant so that's uh that's all the time i
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have for this but uh stay safe there well that's safe out there australians your government freaking
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hates you that is very disturbing stiglestone says mr h did uh hate crime uh luke saint 91 says
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maybe the only thing islam gets right is that women don't have any rights or you're going to like my
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segment then and um wonder why white people are getting more radical especially when they rely on us to
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defend the country or grab all the mouse yeah sure um um magnus 87 thank you for the 20 uh old soviet
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joke you know someone uh was lying when he says he got 10 years and didn't do anything because the
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sentence for not doing anything was five years um and uh that's a random name says why women allowed
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so very good um we we we shall turn now to a um a bit of a white pill something to cheer us all up
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so please you've probably all been aware that there's been this bit of a hoo-ha in this country
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white um grok well actually not just all all of the ais you could go to it you say
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here's a picture put it in it put it in a bikini and all of the ais do it but keir starmer kite wants to
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ban x because it's not controlled by a shit lib and and therefore they they seized upon this and
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they there was a big hoo-ha about being able to put women in in bikinis oh someone put my dog in a
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bikini well oh yeah you could do anything toaster you could put the bikino in and anything really um
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but um but but but uh grok has now had to respond to this because because the uk government decided to
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go down the path well we're going to ban you then so so grok has now um banned uh banned its ai from
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generating sexualized images of women and children after the uk made it illegal to create
00:30:18.720
non-consensual images however it is still responding to a quest to put men in bikinis
00:30:24.560
or sexual positions now this was universally praised on the left and right and everybody's
00:30:30.560
saying well this is obviously a good thing oh so they were just just to clarify i guess as well uh elon
00:30:37.040
musk and everyone else came out and was like there was nothing about kids that there's nothing about
00:30:42.400
kids on this at all no there was just to clarify that yeah that was something whipped up by the media
00:30:47.360
no that yeah that is perfectly true um but um but you know everybody has thought that this is a good
00:30:53.040
thing and i've seen so many comments from people saying there was no possible reason why you would
00:30:58.880
not be in favor of this and i thought well i can actually see a pretty glaring one okay and i want
00:31:04.720
to take you on my thought process and tell me that i'm not wrong in this so for a start i have a very
00:31:09.920
different reading of this tweet and samson leave it on the screen so the audience can see it as i say
00:31:14.480
this the way i read that because i'm infinitely more based is that um what that is actually saying
00:31:21.520
is that women have just had their rights restricted and are being treated like children
00:31:26.160
i'm not wrong am i yeah we'll lock you up no one can look at you do anything about you yeah
00:31:34.560
talk to you and and and essentially what it what it comes back to is this old distinction um or no um
00:31:42.480
paradox and liberalism that has never been resolved which is women are both strong and powerful
00:31:48.800
at the precise same time as being vulnerable and needing special protection yes liberalism has never
00:31:54.640
been able to resolve that um before before we go on and i'll take you through my argument i just i
00:32:00.160
just want to give an acknowledgement to the fact that it is only now a few years um since we wouldn't
00:32:07.200
have been able to have a conversation on the dynamic of men and women um because of the other 72 genders
00:32:14.160
now you might think oh that that's that's that's done and i remember that stuff he's only it was only a
00:32:18.880
few years ago this was medically reviewed in in 2024 that's only two years ago where this was the thing
00:32:25.120
so um just a quick blast from the past let's let's let's just remind ourselves of the genders that
00:32:30.720
they used to be i can't go through all of them aerogender aerogending i think i saw the last i saw
00:32:36.560
the film on that the last aerogender yeah what effectogender uh agenda flux um alexander
00:32:46.160
genera that's presumably when you imagine yourself to be alexander the great or something
00:32:49.680
um what else we i mean there's um blur auto gender are they a car auto gender that sounds
00:32:56.880
that sounds like the base one doesn't it astral gender brilliant um i mean you get to a certain
00:33:03.040
point on this and it basically just looks like a glossary of terms that you make can i be serious
00:33:08.160
about this for one second how yes bear with me i don't see this ego gender brilliant um these are
00:33:19.600
people trying to find weird ways to express their own uniqueness yes within the constraints of the
00:33:28.720
the dominant transgender culture and what they're saying is that they are suffering and they don't
00:33:36.560
know how to express it and the only permitted avenue for expressing it is through some kind
00:33:42.800
of sexualized identity yes there was a time where we would respect people's suffering because we all
00:33:50.480
shared in it but that was predicated on having a christian morality and they are right that every
00:33:57.280
individual is unique and has unique trials and tribulations and an individual cross in a sense um but
00:34:07.840
that doesn't need to be expressed in this particularly insane and satanic manner i just
00:34:14.800
think they're mental but you're right it is about over sexualization and that being the only narrative
00:34:20.000
and that's kind of where i'm going with which is why i go with insane and satanic yes because what
00:34:24.640
i'm saying is the pendulum swung to such a ridiculous length it's now starting to swing back um before i
00:34:31.600
move on i'll just point out what i like actually it is the um alex gender a person who has a fluid
00:34:37.440
gender identity between one or more type of gender although they cannot name the genders they feel fluid
00:34:43.040
in that's just a mental person yes yes and and when you get someone who's telling you i am mentally
00:34:48.880
unwell i'm suffering please help me and a normal process would be yeah go to a priest confess your sins
00:34:56.400
maybe get slapped around and and and and fast to for penance yes um but they can't be told to do the
00:35:03.920
same thing yes and so they're told well that i've just discovered a new gender doctor yep um this one
00:35:10.240
is absolutely different from all of the others let's cut off their tits and and graft the penis and and
00:35:16.800
when you get later down in this for me this just feels like a glossary of spare terms that you have
00:35:22.240
at the back of your science fiction show you can just sort of picture you know captain the the demiflux
00:35:28.400
is interacting with the um a dredger gender yeah and and it's going to cause a femifluid explosion or
00:35:35.920
something like that i mean it's just just all over the bloody place anyway so i mentioned that so this
00:35:42.640
is my point is is that you know the the pendulum is really swinging on this now my actual argument is
00:35:49.920
this okay is that i don't think that women are going to lose rights through sort of ideology or
00:35:55.840
malice what is happening here is that we are instantiating a safety and compliance logic where
00:36:03.840
rights are risked managed permissions okay so so in in the digital system systems they don't recognize
00:36:11.360
rights they recognize permissions right and platforms understand that they've got to shut down
00:36:17.200
the risk profile of everything so basically what happened is what is going to happen is that the
00:36:22.400
temporary safeguards are going to harden into policy and you know you start with emergency blocks because
00:36:28.240
there's a crisis um and then you get internalized risk categories and then you get best practice now
00:36:34.480
women as we have established now um they're a high risk class so you need additional protection layers
00:36:43.680
on women and you've got to treat them like children effectively so the language is the language that
00:36:48.960
is going to be used is not going to be um oh um taking away anything or restrict it's not going to
00:36:54.800
be that it's going to it's going to be safeguarding it's going to be protections it's going to be out of
00:36:58.880
caution nobody ever says restriction they only ever say care that's the way that they go on this
00:37:06.640
right and then um sex or gender whichever way you look at it is is is going to become administratively
00:37:12.880
real at the digital layer so sex is going to correlate with um abuse likelihood and reputational
00:37:19.520
harm and therefore digital protocols have no choice but to store infer and use in decision trees okay so
00:37:27.920
equality remains rhetorical what's actually happening underneath this is that the divergence is happening
00:37:35.920
in the code and it's a set of permission layers and then what happens is these systems right they don't
00:37:42.160
um they don't they don't they they stack right they don't reset so everything is a layer built upon
00:37:50.560
another layer put upon another layer okay so new systems that are developed off the back of this and
00:37:57.120
everything is going to becoming increasingly more digital over time everything is going to get more
00:38:01.360
and more and and you can see more of the civic engagement chain moving on to the digital world right
00:38:08.320
and every new system that is going to be built on the old systems are going to inherit
00:38:12.800
the existing risk flags they're going to inherit the compliance rules and the known vulnerabilities
00:38:18.960
and that's how they'll be thinking about it so i mean stuff like digital id it's obviously going to
00:38:24.240
come i know i know that keir starman said he's backing off he's not really backing off um i mean maybe
00:38:30.640
maybe we should talk about that for a second there's announcement and a lot of people got excited okay
00:38:34.240
um you know digital id is no longer going to be mandatory like so what what what will happen
00:38:40.560
that's the thing it will be just in orbit name it will mandatory if you want to be able to do
00:38:45.200
anything yeah if you don't want to do anything it's not mandatory if you do want to do anything it will
00:38:50.320
be mandatory like even your interactions with something like company's house yes they have to go through
00:38:56.720
a dot gov one id whatever it is which is effectively a digital id um and you can easily tie pretty much
00:39:07.280
everything to do with government benefits taxes whatever to this identity and then you just link
00:39:15.840
it up to the nhs which already has a decentralized database about you and then that's it you are
00:39:23.520
fully part of the digital id environment so they are going to sneak this through the back door
00:39:29.200
and if as you say there are these layers of protection that are stacking on top of each other
00:39:35.440
with women being you know being female being one of the protected characteristics it just means
00:39:41.600
that males are the excluded group and the ones that are permissible to be put at risk which is fair all of
00:39:50.320
the history of humanity is about putting men at risk be it in construction or in war or in agriculture
00:39:56.640
or in hunting because that's their job to provide and protect um but it would be nice to recognize
00:40:04.560
that this is the objective truth but okay but actually i think that's a good thing here because
00:40:09.760
it's it's yes okay men are more at risk um but but in the terms that that they are not protected by
00:40:17.680
these categorizations these things that have to be built in so you can see that the civic tech when
00:40:23.440
it comes along you know digital voting is going to be built on top of this you know anti-coercion
00:40:29.440
messages are going to have to be built into it you're going to need identity assurance and you're
00:40:33.520
going to need basically a zero tolerance for any scandal and so the risk analysis and the compliance
00:40:39.520
departments and all of these when they're building it up it's going to be who is most likely to be
00:40:44.880
coerced well we know the answer to that because the risk flags are all over women you know they're
00:40:51.040
they're the ones that can be compromised they're the ones that are higher risk and so the system
00:40:54.880
will correctly infer from the previous stacks built below it okay well the answer is who's vulnerable
00:41:01.040
women because that that is what we're training into it now so it's it effectively what they're going
00:41:07.920
to get is a lot more friction so nobody is ever going to come along and say to one no you can't vote
00:41:13.120
the rhetoric will be the same but the downstream consequence will be that getting through to the
00:41:20.480
point where you can actually do that where you can take a full civic engagement is going to be a lot
00:41:25.440
more friction so it's going to be extra verification and it's going to be um you know delays and manual
00:41:31.360
reviews and all this kind of stuff yeah so you know whereas men they're going to get the default
00:41:37.440
digital access and they're going to get the low friction path while the women are getting the
00:41:40.880
safeguarded pass which is just slower and more complicated so you know women can still vote but
00:41:47.280
it's it's it's just slower and more friction in order to get better and you once you start layering
00:41:53.040
this up you're not going to get the um you're not going to get rollback because removing safeguards can
00:42:00.320
immediately be flagged as okay well you're risking harm to women yeah yeah um and if keeping safeguards
00:42:06.640
there are basically no downsides to this and it's ultimately compliance officers and not
00:42:13.040
politicians who own the system who run the system right so you know the the inversion occurs where um
00:42:21.840
liberalism claims that women are all of these things you know fully equal agents and and structurally
00:42:26.800
vulnerable and stuff but every time there's a scandal or something that comes along they they start
00:42:32.080
building in behaviors which are perfectly the opposite of that now i i i then want to show a
00:42:40.000
tweet that i put out last night that people seem to have responded to quite well because i'm i'm
00:42:43.760
trying to think about the system of governance in in a different in a different frame trying to invert
00:42:50.080
the frame on a lot of this stuff and and see if any of this makes sense okay so here i say look what
00:42:54.880
if all of the following is true right britain is no longer a democracy it's a credential weighted
00:43:00.080
compliance system real power flows through the treasury regulators and courts because they own risk
00:43:06.800
so the treasury owns sort of bond risk all that kind of stuff courts um you know um legal compliance
00:43:12.640
risk all that kind of stuff the state doesn't govern it processes risk policy is downstream of risk
00:43:18.800
frameworks not ideology or voter preference parliament is a signaling layer not a decision layer mp signal moral
00:43:28.480
alignment launder system decisions into narratives and absorb public anger britain is governed by
00:43:35.840
inherited assumption and there's a whole bunch of these you know such as growth cannot benefit the
00:43:40.160
natives and i mean this is a core one legibility to international systems outrank domestic concerns
00:43:46.720
um you know i go on to say things like immigration was never a policy choice it was a structural output
00:43:50.960
if you've got declining compliance with the natives where you need people who are going to not contest the
00:43:55.120
authority and that um the real constitution is basically statistical not written because what
00:44:01.040
a constitution do is it restricts you so the real constitution is bond yields credit rating agencies
00:44:06.720
legal harmonization um you know it's all of that and i'm saying effectively the collapse has already
00:44:11.920
happened but it looks to us like stability without any purpose and ultimately where i get to all of
00:44:17.680
this is that britain isn't being misgoverned it's being governed exactly as a late stage administrative
00:44:23.200
system must it's all risk mitigation all the way down i mean you could easily compare the government
00:44:31.760
of britain to the people who were sitting in the um in the emperor's palaces in china in in the uh
00:44:38.080
in the garden city in the holy city whatever it was completely isolated they're there sometimes
00:44:44.960
as a lightning rod for public anger um it is a bunch of eunuchs in charge at the end of the day
00:44:53.360
genderless unit yes and um yes yes kia starman fits that bill i'm sure to be honest well the ukrainian
00:45:02.400
rent boys might well yeah you know yeah i think their trial is coming up in march or april that should be
00:45:10.640
entertaining oh they won't say anything oh nothing will be public oh i'd love it to be it won't be
00:45:16.960
i'd love it to be but it won't be maybe can't let that get out but but basically what i'm saying here
00:45:22.720
is restricting women's digital right because we can do something they can't and and i know it sounds
00:45:29.120
frivolous at the moment but i can take a picture of myself and say the grok put me in a bikini right
00:45:34.720
and and you might think okay well that's well i have i have done that as well but i mean just
00:45:39.280
just just to see if yeah just okay just just to see if it could be done right and that might appear
00:45:44.800
entirely frivolous at this point but my point is serious if you start building risk flags and
00:45:51.680
permissions onto women and then you build everything else onto a digital system let me yes let me agree
00:46:00.880
with you with an anecdote i was writing a piece on iran yesterday and i wanted an image of khamenei
00:46:08.960
the supreme leader of iran with a target on him okay and american jets in the air do you know whose
00:46:15.920
image grok gave me elon musk's yeah and another random white man it absolutely refused to put
00:46:27.360
khamenei in a turban and his normal dress and also with a target on him because obviously that would
00:46:37.040
violate some kind of hate speech programming but it did instantly spit out elon musk and i'm not lying
00:46:43.520
i have the image i futed it out um didn't get a reply but when you ask grok to take the supreme leader
00:46:53.600
of iran put him in his proper dress and put a target on him it'll give you an image of a random
00:47:00.800
white man and elon musk instead yes so bizarre no turbans no no turbans no religious dress
00:47:08.560
but i mean isn't this fascinating extending from that to your logic yes you could sort of see how
00:47:14.800
this kind of endless programming that is going to go through algorithms that have the same safety
00:47:20.320
requirements and the key thing is they stack and they stack and they stack exactly yeah exactly
00:47:26.480
is going to end up with a conclusion yes that with a white man he's allowed to do anything yes but with
00:47:34.560
a woman especially if she identifies shut it down restrict it protect her she's vulnerable exactly yes
00:47:41.360
so this is the logic that you're going and then when and i am seeing it in real life yes and then when
00:47:46.720
when you start to build all of the later stages that will come over the next two decades yes civic
00:47:52.240
engagement including voting so i mean and that is how i get to i mean just to come back to the original
00:47:58.240
link um you know women are having their rights restricted and treated like children that's why
00:48:03.360
i think it's a good thing um which so i've i've come at it that this is a good thing everybody everybody
00:48:10.240
agrees that this is a good thing i'm agreeing outside of it for a completely different reason
00:48:18.960
not the reason that absolutely everybody else thinks that this is a good thing a true feminist would
00:48:23.840
want to defend femininity right rather than pretend that that men and women are the same
00:48:30.480
a true feminist but we're not and it used yes always used to be that men and women are different and
00:48:35.760
then we got all that gender nonsense i talked about at the beginning where you know there were 72
00:48:40.080
different genders including genders for people who don't know what gender they are and can't make up
00:48:43.760
their mind yes and and the the pendulum is swinging back and and people can't see that it's happening but
00:48:50.320
that pendulum is swinging we are taking rights away from women we are doing it all over again we are
00:48:56.640
setting up for a situation where they won't be able to vote or at least they won't be able to vote with as much friction
00:49:01.520
and everybody at every stage especially the feminists they're like cheering going yay this is
00:49:06.320
excellent and i'm and i'm there going yep but for completely different reasons right and and um i
00:49:13.680
mean i'll i'll show you i'll show you this video this this is i mean this is where we need to get back to
00:49:18.320
um i mean this is this is um from from broad walk empire this is how the world used to be
00:49:23.760
uh it used to have thought patrols i'll just i'll just show you this pull it down sister big part your
00:49:30.320
skirt's too short too short for what it's the law lady the bottom of the skirt shall be no higher
00:49:36.480
than seven inches above the knee they actually measure what kind of town is this all right you
00:49:41.760
a summons and you can find out swell make it out to molly fletcher i take it you're not from around
00:49:48.800
here san francisco new in town not much of a welcome is it ten dollars what i don't have that kind of money
00:49:58.080
fine then you can spend the night in jail come on you have got to be kidding me nice you're attracting
00:50:08.000
the beach lizards now oh let them gawk they're called knees fellas what's the trouble she refuses
00:50:15.920
to cover up and she won't pay the fine you really want to go to jail sure i'm a public menace officer
00:50:22.080
i'm sorry my cousin is a joker if you let me pay the fine i'll be sure to keep her out of trouble
00:50:41.600
sorry base patrol yeah exactly i mean this is what we got to get we
00:50:50.960
that's what we we need we need women like that going around you know looking up only fans like
00:50:56.400
fine for you and no no no my position on only fans is very clear oh shut it down shut it down yes no
00:51:02.160
no drone strikes yes on the servers drone strikes on the owners end it yes we're done here yes um but
00:51:09.840
you know i'm i'm just saying um you know just if you've got to start thinking about things in terms
00:51:15.200
of systems and not just for the not just the headline that you see in the news what does this
00:51:22.240
instantiate what behaviors does it does it reward which behaviors does it shut down and then what gets
00:51:29.280
built on top of that layer by layer by layer because i think the feminists are cheering for something
00:51:34.800
here which they don't quite understand what the downstream implications yes of treating women
00:51:40.240
like children yeah which is actually what they've done and i'm not saying i don't agree because i do
00:51:45.120
agree i mean but but i agree because i thought it through all the way all morality is about protecting
00:51:52.720
women and children yes biologically yes this has always been the priority and we've found ways to sort of
00:52:00.800
elevate women elevate children through christian thinking but all morality biologically is about
00:52:08.320
safeguarding women and children but but we've become so woke we're rediscovering tradition tradition
00:52:14.000
is you decided to pretend that everybody's equal yes which is an insane assumption it's a bit like
00:52:19.040
every so often you see some feminist on twitter post something like well if women can't have abortions
00:52:25.040
that means that men have to provide for her and the child for the rest of his life you've rediscovered
00:52:29.440
marriage yes congratulations and you've rediscovered marriage well done we're in agreement honestly
00:52:36.000
once a month a feminist hits upon this killer line and posts it and then just gets the entire right
00:52:42.000
wing posting under yep your terms yep that's fine yeah that is absolutely fine we are bill rebuilding
00:52:48.880
tradition and and and and proper modest feminism by because we went too woke it's as if these cultural
00:52:57.040
norms are there for a reason yes yes it's as if there is a reason why things are the way they are
00:53:06.480
i don't know all right so i i will uh i'll read some uh comments um oh dear this one seems to have um
00:53:20.720
oh traveling tortoise for a very generous uh fifty dollars the absolute state of our politics
00:53:25.600
uh bracket state of politics uh great youtube channel uh when's dan coming on i don't know um
00:53:32.160
do you want to come on the uh state of politics well i've got something interesting to talk about
00:53:35.520
i mean that'd be your decision since you run the shop um well i'm not against it well we we we
00:53:41.280
me and beau can have you on just to enough interview you absolutely um uh siglestone says my gender is
00:53:48.480
dan uh very good um luke saint 91 says i disagree i think they came up of all these genders just to be
00:53:55.760
special if you notice a lot of these people are white and they're trying to get around the anti-whitism that
00:54:00.960
we're dealing with um and he also says i find it funny you guys should uh uh you guys are talking about
00:54:06.560
stuff now the migtails have been talking about for a while where the migtails um men going their own way
00:54:12.480
uh yes um hayden w is demigender named after demi lovoto don't know um logan says off topic dan can you
00:54:25.200
do a brokonomics about canada i mean possibly um if i had a good guest i guess it's going to become
00:54:30.800
america right that that would be good i'll cover it at that point um luke saint 91 also says i brought
00:54:37.600
this up yesterday but you guys really need to have a serious look at migtail community um possibly
00:54:43.040
yeah again if you can recommend a decent guest i'd consider it um and a drunken changeling says uh
00:54:48.480
feminats once again creating patriarchy from first principles yes that is exactly what they're
00:54:54.240
doing and that's why i'm in favor of it uh tell us about chagos i'm controlling the mouse yes let me
00:55:05.680
just scroll through this quickly right let's have a a whistle stop tour of chagos go on then bit of
00:55:17.360
an update on everything that's going on because i haven't heard much for a while there's been little
00:55:21.760
bits of updates here and there but they're they're comical they're really comical so this isn't like a
00:55:27.920
great grand update nothing major's happened but it's setting the stage i think for things to happen
00:55:34.240
moving forward but what has happened is very very funny so i wanted to talk about it uh this one
00:55:40.880
the chagossians announced a government in exile what yep okay i mean i'm i'm here for i'm i'm pro
00:55:49.920
how many chagossians are there enough for a whole government well and no for two governments at this
00:55:55.520
point yeah yeah yeah there's like 60 of them or something yeah so the chagos islands community has
00:56:01.120
announced the creation of a government in exile i mean again i'm laughing but i'm pro this following
00:56:06.640
an informal referendum in which 96 of voters supported the proposal more than a thousand
00:56:12.400
chagossians worldwide so there you go there's your answer were eligible to participate and the result
00:56:18.080
was led by newly elected interim first minister misley misley man mandarian uh the poll which took place
00:56:26.080
over the weekend at the time of you know this going it was a little while back now uh received
00:56:30.800
the following result question one formation of a government in exile do you support the creation
00:56:36.320
of a government in exile to represent the chagossian people until a permanent settlement is achieved
00:56:41.680
in favor 1233 91.9 and against 108 so 8.1 i mean i'm pro this okay i'm pro this so so they they
00:56:52.880
announced that they were going to they're happy that they were going to do it they got there's
00:56:56.800
like 1400 approval yeah i mean i mean just on logistics sake there must be people who are both
00:57:02.000
in the chagossian government and the chagossian opposition at the same time just because they
00:57:05.760
have such a shortage of manpower probably that's a new take on crossing the aisle to argue with oneself
00:57:14.560
uh and then they appointed the interim first minister which is obviously this chap misley
00:57:21.040
mandarin um and then they also just a few more bits and pieces here they just say this so the
00:57:26.880
announcement comes amid growing scrutiny from international bodies the u.n committee on the
00:57:31.920
elimination of racial discrimination recent which is brilliant because that's like that that's the
00:57:37.360
the most left-coded thing yeah it's proper woke innit working for the other side that's hilarious
00:57:43.840
yeah and so they recently urged both the uk and mauritius to pause ratification of the sovereignty
00:57:49.440
deal oh this is so cute warning that it may violate chagossians rights by preventing resettlement
00:57:54.720
on diego garcia they think they're going to resettle diego garcia do they it's all over honestly
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it's very cute uh the government exile in exile has pledged to seek recognition from international
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institutions and governments uh its leaders say that they will advocate for resettlement
00:58:11.520
compensation which we'll get to and cultural preservation whilst challenging the uk mauritius
00:58:17.200
agreement as inconsistent with international law and human rights standards so there was that right
00:58:22.400
there is a little video i don't think we we don't really need to watch it i think we can skip that
00:58:27.600
yeah and then um and so then they wrote the so because they thought so they formed their government
00:58:33.520
in exile and then they were like right we're a government now don't tell me they wrote a
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constitution no we are going to write a letter to um to queer starlin um which you can't really see
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there but i can see it so i'm going to read it to you um this is from first minister miserly man that
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is terrible yes mate samson that is jesus that is that's that'll give you an aneurysm miserly yeah
00:58:58.160
miserly mandarin um said dear british friends oh i write to you as the first minister of the
00:59:05.760
chagossian people again i'm pro chagossians here i'm laughing but i am just clear yes chagossians and
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as someone who still believes in britain's sense of fairness responsibility and quiet strength today
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i ask you to stand up to speak out and act the british government is on the brink of surrendering
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the british indian ocean territory including the chagoss uh uh your archipelago archipelago to
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mauritius if this deal is ratified it will be irreversible and britain will live to regret it
00:59:36.000
which i i agree with this that's true this whole thing is mental yes should not be happening so i
00:59:40.480
agree with all of this true yeah agree so far uh this is not a distant technical matter it is about
00:59:48.000
british territory british scrutiny british taxpayers money yeah like 30 is it like 30 30 billion quid
00:59:53.280
34 billion pounds or something yeah it's mental um and so uh continues a little bit further and says uh
01:00:01.760
and and a natural treasure and britain has protected better than almost any nation on earth so they talk
01:00:10.160
about the 60 islands uh 59 of them are completely uninhabited untouched uh except for birds turtles fish
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and coral which is again it's all things that we were supposed to protect yeah i mean i'm again
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i'm pro all of that they're among the most among the most pristine islands and waters anywhere in
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the world and this did not happen by accident it happened because britain took its responsibility
01:00:30.880
seriously the decades britain has protected chagoss a marine sanctuary of global importance its reefs
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are among the healthiest blah blah blah so we'll just scroll a little bit past that basically just
01:00:41.680
trying to prey on the whole environmentalism part which i'm again i'm prey i'm pro all of that why not
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um and so then go further mauritius is over a thousand miles away yep they had no contact
01:00:53.920
between mauritius and chagoss before china china began to institute it initiate the whole situation
01:01:01.120
the whole thing is absurd there there is no relationship between the chagoss islands and
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mauritius it's mad well they're both islands yeah that's a good point uh it does not have the naval
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capability the patrol capacity or the resources to protect these islands uh and in the past it has
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had to ask other countries for help simply to police its own waters nice little nice little dunk on
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mauritius there yeah yeah um and they lost the dodo did they yeah that was mauritius wasn't it
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that's new zealand right no pretty sure it was mauritius they had dodos they maybe it
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well savage savage uh to pretend that it can suddenly safeguard one of the most remote
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archipelagos on earth is fantasy i like this guy he's he's he's a legend uh once sovereignty is
01:01:51.200
transferred britain will have no control fishing exploitation and environmental degradation will
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follow what britain has preserved impeccably will be handed over to a state that cannot realistically
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protect it this deal this is all like in bold is also deeply dangerous for britain's security yes
01:02:07.840
diego garcia one of the chagoss islands hosts one of the most important uk us military bases in the
01:02:13.120
world from there britain and its allies deter hostile regimes protect global trade routes and respond
01:02:19.760
to international crisis uh recent operations in the middle east have depended on this base
01:02:25.680
so i love all of that good stuff what a legend uh continues further says yeah under this deal britain
01:02:30.640
will give up sovereignty and pay more than 30 billion pound potentially closer to 35 billion
01:02:35.520
to rent back what it already owns yes just it's mad like none of it makes any sense so this is kind
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of stuff you already know but the fact that he's actively engaging with the british people as a
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government as a as a as an elected official this is all new so i love this stuff this is great um
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and then they say this serious new concerns are emerging mauritius has been implicated in illicit
01:02:58.240
financial dealings linked to the venezuelan regime of maduro whistleblower documents point to china's
01:03:04.800
strategic interest in chagoss beyond the 99 year lease period the treaty itself risks undermining
01:03:11.280
the treaty another treaty oh no it is their treaty sorry uh raising questions about whether future
01:03:18.080
orcus related operations from diego garcia could even remain lawful this is not scaremongering these
01:03:23.280
are real documented risks uh being raised by defense experts parliamentarians and international observers
01:03:29.520
i'll bet you anything that an intelligent british prime minister could sell the chagos islands to the
01:03:34.880
americans you have 50 billion yeah instead of giving it to mauritius and giving them money
01:03:41.920
you could easily sell it to the americans for 50 billion maybe even a hundred billion yeah yeah
01:03:47.360
and just you know that's it yes and i checked on the dodo thing that was mauritius and while i was
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doing new zealand no it's definitely mauritius but they had dodos new zealand had a bird
01:03:59.120
you might be thinking a bunch of birds yes you might be thinking kiwi was that a bird was that
01:04:04.080
that i can't remember anyway the point is i i then checked how close is mauritius to the chagos
01:04:10.800
islands quite far they're nowhere bloody it's it's one thousand five hundred miles away yeah it's quite
01:04:17.360
far they they had no connection to it it's only because the brits administered put them under the
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the same administration just sort of imperial efficiency i can see what it's like saying aidan
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which was part of british india yes should go to the indians this is the same exact logic
01:04:35.920
yeah it's totally mad i mean it's it's it's i mean it's about the length of turkey
01:04:42.000
i mean it's or or or britain yeah it's a huge distance you you you're not doing that on your
01:04:48.240
little coconut phone no no no no the whole thing doesn't make any sense yeah and so now they go a
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step further appealing to the sort of woke crowd but in in the best way and then there is the human cost
01:05:00.640
the chagossian people were forcibly removed from our homeland between 1968 and 1973 so that
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diego garcia could be built we sacrificed our home so britain and its allies could be secure
01:05:13.600
today without our consent our homeland is being traded away we were not consulted we were not asked
01:05:20.260
we were ignored and i agree with all of that i mean you know yeah that is the situation that happened
01:05:24.160
um but they also want to remain british right they they want to remain under us right that's all part
01:05:30.240
of it so they then go and ask people to contact their local mps and get that sorted uh you know
01:05:35.680
get them sort of speaking up in parliament and trying to help them um and you can see this as well
01:05:41.520
so this is just another sort of an update um chagoss deal to go ahead despite protests despite all of
01:05:47.040
this despite the letter despite the fact they've elected a government um despite numerous like high
01:05:52.640
court uh injunctions that were put on briefly you know to sort of stop it and halt it and all this kind
01:05:57.200
of stuff uh mad like i'm absolutely mad they just don't care they're not interested so this was the
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11th of january um and some of these letters were like in december uh and they say again just crazy
01:06:07.120
stuff right there's gonna be no change in policy of the uk's decision to hand the chagoss islands to
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marit it's not hand we're not we're not handing it to them we're paying them to take it and and this
01:06:20.240
has been a year now and i still haven't heard the explanation as to why we're doing it no there is
01:06:25.200
there is literally none there is none yeah there is none it doesn't make any sense i mean this would
01:06:32.800
be a stellar level of corruption if you look at the lawyers who were involved yeah yeah yeah yeah
01:06:38.400
they've got details that like mauritius these guys that's the one thing that they do a bit of money
01:06:44.400
laundering on the side other than fishing and so on a bit of money laundering on the side
01:06:47.920
and so not a bit is it this is whoa laundering 30 billion pounds can make a lot of people a lot of
01:06:56.640
money yeah you can bet that there's going to be kickbacks so london-based chagossians they've been
01:07:02.080
out protesting against the plan saying they're being shut out of decisions about the future of their
01:07:06.480
homeland well i mean i can improvise with that that is complete yeah i mean i'm i you know i feel it
01:07:14.080
uh you know i'm there guys um and so then there's some of this right chagossians very hopeful starmas
01:07:20.800
chagos handover deal will be stopped in crunch for crunch day for treaty so this did actually happen
01:07:25.360
right so it was going through the lords and so but they didn't really stop it they stopped it but not
01:07:31.600
really they have a half-assed one did they neither manage to extract an explanation as to why the hell
01:07:37.520
we're doing this in the first place no right international law i mean that buzzwords you don't
01:07:45.840
need to explain yourself but i mean there's still a really sizable hole in this entire story as to
01:07:51.520
why the hell are we doing this at all it literally doesn't make any sense i'm lebanese i explain
01:07:55.920
everything with corruption yeah so so basically the members of the house of lords were they've already
01:08:02.160
done it uh were set to vote on the third and final reading of the legislation to ratify the bill
01:08:07.840
uh and could still vote vote it down so they did but they didn't squash it there's two ways that they
01:08:13.840
basically publicly embarrassed queer starlin um but they didn't what i just love the name uh the fact
01:08:23.840
that your face doesn't change in the least when you use it i say it so using it i say it so much
01:08:29.200
that's just that's the goat it's got to the point if you ever introduced to him it'd be awkward
01:08:33.600
because you wouldn't be able to do the original version anymore yeah all right queer starlin um
01:08:38.880
but so they basically the the lords voted to embarrass them but that was it it wasn't a full
01:08:45.360
uh squash down which is again mental but that's that's part and parcel of how governments can now
01:08:52.480
just pack the lords with favorite you know favorable uh characters which is just again just nonsense
01:08:59.200
um and then so then we got this so uh again a little bit more uh recent now protect uk uh queer
01:09:07.360
starlin blasted over chagos islands in furious pmq's rant so you can see like people are you know people
01:09:14.000
are in there now people are getting annoyed uh it's nice to see the mps doing it but it should also be
01:09:19.600
why we why are we paying to to give it away like what are you doing yeah and this should have been
01:09:24.880
happening last year all of this should have been happening last year the fact that it's happening
01:09:28.880
now right the the final crunch time is nonsense is that's insane it shows you how mindless parliament
01:09:35.200
is and it shows you how thoughtless these people are and they only move with vibes they don't move
01:09:43.120
yeah they just move with the mood but they're just idiots they're all idiots they've got no no um
01:09:48.880
um no thoughts of their own and so then this is what i was referencing peers rebuke uh ministers over
01:09:56.000
chagos surrender deal as they again refuse to support the law but they didn't they didn't do
01:10:00.160
everything that they could have done they and they should have done as well i mean there is no there's
01:10:04.720
no reason to give to pay mauritius to have it there just is to give it to them in the first place
01:10:10.080
if you're going to give it to anyone give it to the americans yeah and take some money from them
01:10:13.520
yeah well the hope now is currently people they're hoping currently that um trump will
01:10:24.320
kind of step in that's that's the hope basically um but you even have things like this right so
01:10:30.240
un watchdog uh has chimed in delivering stinging rebuke of starmer's chagos deal warns agreement must
01:10:37.520
not be ratified this is the un watchdog again you know i don't care about these institutions or
01:10:42.480
anything like that this is what queer starlin loves these these kind of institutions yes this
01:10:46.640
is awful for him right yeah the message from the united nations is unmistakable a deal that excludes
01:10:52.240
an entire people from the ancestral home he doesn't care about that or i'm telling you he doesn't care
01:10:58.240
uh and denies them justice for decades of suffering is not a solution ratifying this agreement would not
01:11:03.040
close the chapter on colonial injustice in the chagos uh it would lock it in for another century which
01:11:07.840
actually i mean is true they're like well colonialism bad but mauritius colonialism that's good yes mad
01:11:17.360
absolutely mad um i do have in here as well where is it talk amongst yourselves briefly whilst i try and
01:11:23.280
find something find something yeah so how about that robert jenrich then
01:11:27.840
how about nothing right so they were also um what's comical about this now uh is the chagossians
01:11:37.360
are trying to seek um reparations from quid starlin they've come out and asked for reparations
01:11:46.160
basically they've said if this goes through we want reparations everybody wants reparations
01:11:51.040
mate but they won't be able to find it but they've just given what 50 billion to mauritius
01:11:55.440
yeah 30 35 billion 30 34 billion so that but again i'm just still so confused about this i mean
01:12:03.680
if if if quid starlin was a car salesman he'd be like why don't you buy this car i'll pay you 50
01:12:11.040
grand to take it and you'd be like hang on so what mate yeah what's going on at least there is something
01:12:17.840
there's something so fundamental and basic at the bottom of this that just has never been explained
01:12:22.240
i just i just can't get my head around any of it obviously corruption obviously corruption there is
01:12:27.120
no other way around it how does how does queer starlin benefit from this is a job after after his
01:12:35.040
failing government it's going to be something so he's going to be appointed to an ngo in mauritius
01:12:39.280
he's going to be some kind of lawyer nobody's going to be giving him gifts of free eyeglasses
01:12:44.160
and clothing oh yeah penthouse and what have you at the moment he's got lord ali buying his
01:12:48.880
underpants for him exactly yes and so when he loses all relevance he loses all ability to make money
01:12:55.840
now granted he has a generous pension probably and uh a security detail as a former pm yes but beyond
01:13:03.360
that he's accustomed to a life of luxury and he's accustomed to people giving him all kinds of fancy
01:13:08.400
gifts right and um now he's going to pay his own so he might get invited to dinners that pay like
01:13:15.520
90 grand for for 10 minutes and some of them will be hosted in mauritius or something but it's what
01:13:20.720
it's one of his mates that is doing this deal so right and he's a lawyer so he'll just go back to
01:13:25.360
doing that and getting deals and taking percentages of deals basically okay so that starts to make sense
01:13:30.880
so here's the bit that i was trying to find sorry protests and reparation demands
01:13:34.960
chugossians uh many who are resettled now in the uk have been protesting in london and demanding
01:13:40.560
reparations from starma for quote giving away their homeland love it you love to see it love it uh
01:13:47.360
and the self-proclaimed chugossian government in exile's interim first minister lewis meisley
01:13:51.440
mandarin appealed directly to u.s president trump to block it offering to name an island after him
01:13:57.120
and warning of chinese interference which it is chinese interference that's just obvious
01:14:01.760
so we name an island after queer starlin no after no no he's after trump oh he's like help help us
01:14:06.960
and we'll name an island after you trump oh he would go for that yeah i know appealing especially
01:14:12.240
if it was if it was the biggest one exactly well diego garcia donald trump yes so that's basically
01:14:19.920
the update there's not been a lot of updates but there is a fair amount there new government
01:14:24.480
un you know i mean the un committee basically saying well hold on you can't block the chugossian
01:14:33.040
people from exercising their cultural rights and preserving and transmitting their cultural heritage
01:14:38.160
aren't they as british as everyone else now no they're chugossian okay oh so these people get to be
01:14:44.240
native yeah i don't i don't make the rules okay i guess they're they're not white i suppose as long as
01:14:49.600
somebody does i mean they're somebody they're not white are they so that's that but that is actually
01:14:52.960
under the un here we go somebody in the chat's got it trumpo garcia that's what we oh love it yeah
01:15:00.400
so there you go there's there's the update on well thank you hey guys oh very good thank you oh and um
01:15:08.800
there was an in in the in in the comments uh where was it there was there was one counter
01:15:14.400
offer offer may i discuss that a council offer yes uh instead of the americans paying to get diego
01:15:23.760
to get diego garcia uh britain will just give it to them and the americans will
01:15:29.280
do something considerably worse than what was done to maduro yes to nice mr kia starmer yes
01:15:36.000
and all countries would benefit i'm down for it um this is the offer that we have received
01:15:40.240
um if it's made formally i'm told that nate would consider it and therefore lord protector beau would
01:15:47.600
consider it and and i leave it to you gentlemen to decide i'm down now i i must respond to this
01:15:53.840
because because annie moss has been hammering me constantly in the comments and and both the live
01:16:00.400
chat and the comments about why i've got dollies and and to be fair i didn't mean to explain this at the
01:16:06.240
beginning um but i had a senior moment and i forgot so um what what it is is people send us stuff all
01:16:13.680
the time and and this jamie chat and then we are grateful and we are grateful we are grateful uh jamie
01:16:19.600
i mean especially grateful for this because what he sent us was a whole bunch of um um
01:16:25.200
kia starmer artifacts so we got t-shirts and we got various books about him and by him and we are
01:16:32.240
immensely grateful because of course you can never have enough kia starmer in your life and we also
01:16:37.040
got a kia starmer dolly so um that is why we have dollies i just forgot to mention it earlier which i
01:16:43.440
probably should have done um oh there might be some some of those uh rumble rant things on your segment
01:16:50.000
um luke says you're thinking of kiwi the pathetic um version of the emu and cassowari yeah i do like the
01:16:59.840
fact that they're using woke language against the woke government sometimes effectively using their
01:17:04.640
tools against them yeah i do like it i'm i'm pro chi garcians all right i'm gonna have to look up
01:17:09.120
what a kiwi looks like now i'm just imagining a shit ostrich or something but yeah no presumably
01:17:13.440
something like that um the the engage view says uh the us counter offer in return for giving us diego
01:17:18.720
garcia we keep our 50 billion and put an r9x on kia starmer's forehead i don't know what an r9x
01:17:26.720
is i'll tell you what that is in a moment okay but i like the sound of it um yes okay right do
01:17:32.880
oh there oh that's a kiwi oh god that's that's cool not much of an ostrich though is it no it's
01:17:39.760
cool though it's a ground bird i think i like it i think i like it um okay yes um do we have any of the
01:17:47.760
videos normally we get videos nothing nothing okay okay well we get we get to go to um this
01:17:55.600
member sure the comments right let's let's scroll down cambrian kulak says the aussies have some
01:18:03.040
courageous activists their situation is even more dire than the uk uh thomas sowell uh ju
01:18:10.000
joel davis blair curtail uh they keep on keep on trucking aussies love from the motherland we will
01:18:16.400
endure yes i hope you will uh mason royce says australia is increasingly adopting the singaporean
01:18:22.720
method to quell the ethnic unrest that the immigration-based culture caused yes yeah uh
01:18:28.240
mason also says count this message as my civil disobedience to the government
01:18:32.080
i officially support this hate group come at me well done uh michael says some blasphemy we don't
01:18:39.840
approve of blasphemy uh free speech isn't a thing in the rest of the anglosphere the aussies need to
01:18:44.880
step up and vote like their lives depended on it yeah fair enough um could you scroll down could
01:18:50.560
someone scroll down i don't have a the necessary implement uh and says the aussie government is
01:18:57.280
declaring open season of christians well it has been for a few decades now uh arizona desert rat says um
01:19:06.160
criminalizing great well there goes all the haunted houses in australia fair enough
01:19:10.160
uh carl's evil twin vosh okay aussie police went to a dog pound and shut shot all the dogs to stop
01:19:19.600
people going to adopt yeah that pissed me and spreading so much that happened yes they they
01:19:25.600
they went to a dog pound and murdered all the dogs so that somebody with kobe couldn't turn up and try
01:19:31.200
and take a dog and and it was worse than that as well whenever they arrested somebody if you spoke out
01:19:36.400
against kobe they'd go and arrest you and then they would take your dog off you because they had
01:19:41.120
arrested you because you couldn't look after the dog and they'd murder your dog so basically if you
01:19:45.840
criticize the government on social media it was basically a death sentence for your dog yeah or
01:19:51.200
genuinely awful people yeah i mean it's just i mean if if i could drone strike one government out of
01:19:58.480
existence it would be australia without just barbarism without a second straight up barbarism yeah monsters they are
01:20:04.240
bastards uh lord inquisitor hector rex says dan i share your facial expressions throughout the
01:20:12.400
segment absolutely baffling well good for you sir and uh derek power says firas refuses to be nudged
01:20:17.840
well yes i try um go on dan let's read some of yours all right okay um no removing women women's rights
01:20:26.400
yes on dan's segment i noticed that right before the grok stuff blew up nobody kicked up a fuss when the
01:20:32.960
only fan girls asked grok to put themselves in bikini so that's the other baffling thing about
01:20:38.000
the thing it is my feed was was like 10 on this topic was 10 feminist complaining that that you know
01:20:46.320
one person had put them in a bikini or complaining that nobody had put them in a bikini but you know
01:20:52.560
theoretically they could he's like oh you haven't sexualized me you could if you want though but you
01:20:57.200
know it would be really bad right and and and 90 percent thoughts just just ass cheeks everywhere
01:21:03.440
all over my feed and uh you know i don't i don't think my scrolling habits would have engendered i
01:21:08.640
don't think so anyway but anyway the the thought to prude ratio is is what i'm saying is out of control
01:21:15.280
um uh oh yeah lord inquisitor hector rex says you know the only acceptable gender is islander general
01:21:23.280
yes very good buy it now while you still can um he also says nate there are people who
01:21:29.360
marry their cars and race no i'm not reading that right i don't know i don't know why that came in
01:21:36.800
that is the most random statement auto gender oh it could be that couldn't it is that what it means
01:21:42.400
that's a bit weird isn't it um freaks um he also says um uh dan if you want
01:21:48.560
a migtail guy on get dr random cam i do like dr random guy i like his hat um he made zero seat
01:21:56.320
song and has been migtail for years now and um nick dixon he's migtail isn't he i don't know i think i
01:22:03.360
i think he is i think he i think he self-describes i think there's quite a lot of them to be honest
01:22:08.080
so all right we i'm sure we could find one wouldn't be too wouldn't be too hard um
01:22:13.040
um derek uh powers uh says digital id dystopia women most affected uh yes they're sort of
01:22:22.560
viewers dan says auto gender sounds like a new faction from the transformers yes
01:22:29.440
it it's and he's put a hyphen in there is transformers different to the because i knew the
01:22:35.840
transformers when i was a kid but if if there's a hyphen in the middle is that something else i is
01:22:41.200
is that a different type of yeah i suspect i think so it wouldn't surprise me yes i've taken to call
01:22:47.600
them i mean when you have people who are um calling themselves novigender or um or genderqueer or sort
01:22:55.680
of you know fluctuating genders or yeah they're literally transformers because because i've taken
01:23:01.040
to basically calling all of that lot just just grouping them and just taking all of them and just
01:23:05.840
call have you heard of the janissary guard yes okay so i call them the tranissary guard
01:23:10.880
right now the reason i think that's a bit clever because you because you know how the janissary guard
01:23:14.880
behaved he was like you know genuine butchers yes they were the worst of the worst yeah yeah but
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but they including a bit of butchery to themselves a bit of a bit of you know we're gonna you know we
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we're not we're basically going to cross a bridge and we're not going to be able to come back from
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it we we have formed our identity within the janissary so it's a tranissary guard i think is very clever
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uh i've just got to get that instantiated in popular culture um and cambrian uh kulak says paul joseph
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watson did a video yesterday about the uk government planning on accessing your private messages oh me and
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my mates are cooked absolutely cooked if that goes through um uh get 10 years in the gulag for listening
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to the lotus eaters all right very much uh so derek powers said chagos is going to be kekistan
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realized shadowlay um i remember that that's old me that's old memeing magic that is
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yes all right okay uh roman observer says if you have to get colonized at least get a first world
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country to do it instead of a third world one yeah honestly my biggest regret is that the brits
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kicked the lever to the kick the french out of lebanon yeah shame for shame uh roman observer says
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does the trump island have an undiscovered species of duck that we can name after the potus i don't
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know i just think they're desperate clutching at straws now it's weird that trump hasn't blocked it
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it's so strange so it's so odd it doesn't make any sense there must be something else going on like
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an alien artifact has been discovered under it or something i but you'd want it if that's the case
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well i don't know maybe it's a bad one i don't know there's definitely something going on with
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where cthulhu doesn't make any sense yeah yeah we better get out of there quick yeah we just won't
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rent it back maybe maybe they'll renege on their leasing it back deal and they'll be like no we're not
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going to lease it back actually doesn't make any sense i have whatever uh anon says need the meme
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of trump looking out the window to trump oh garcia yeah i love that uh and then geordie swordsman says
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nate is thinking of the great orc okay i don't know maybe i don't know what that is what's a great
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orc i don't know no idea can you can you google a great orc because we've run out of comments we still
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got four now there's an honorable mention oh is there grant gibson says just waded through the
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18 inches of snow we got last night in southern ontario to pick up my island and number five now
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waiting on my breakfast with bone mug the great orc a uk not not the not the warhammer kind yeah the
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great a uk a uk yeah that's what i was thinking of what what's that i don't know isn't that a penguin
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is that a top duck yeah i i have yeah this i think this is what i was thinking of
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okay i think okay yeah kind of like a puffin looking thing isn't it puffin and a penguin yeah
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it it looks like the the batman version of a regular penguin to me but okay what
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oh all right i don't know what i don't know i'm not sure i'm not sure um uh anyway right so um
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hang on if if anybody says interesting anything has anybody got anything interesting to say for
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the remaining two minutes because somehow we've actually managed to manage our time effectively
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there's a beautiful comment from sigil stone oh god then the tranny series have been joined in
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minnesota by lesbolla that's just legendary that is legendary
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yeah it's very good legendary um i'm i'm i'm honestly not gonna i'm not oh yes oh hang on
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and annie mosses dan talk about silver yes actually i have been looking for an opportunity no no now i've
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only got 90 seconds go go 90 seconds to talk about silver yes so silver is really interesting
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and it's going up and it hit through like 90 or something last night right you've got to be a
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little bit careful though because they can pull the bloody stuff out the ground for 15 an ounce
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okay and then you add on okay a bit of amortization a bit of capex costs um you know royalties or
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something you know maybe that gets you up to 25 but i'm stretching it slap on an extra five dollars
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or something for a really inefficiently run mine okay you're now at 30 and and i'm being generous at
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this point right um all the time that it's above 30 and it's something like 90 the margin on silver
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is absurd right so all of these silver mines they're going to be going they're going to be hiring
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guys left right incentives bonuses they're going to be working their plant into the ground until it
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explodes plus also you've got to remember that silver is a is normally a byproduct of other things
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yes copper mines for example throw out a lot of silver so you're just going to get um the copper
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mines are like okay hang on we're now earning margin on this we can ramp up our copper right and get the
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byproduct of this so short term silver brilliant fantastic don't mistake it for a fixed supply capital
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good because supply will come online so if you're riding it absolutely get greedy and ride it but
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only to a sensible degree because it will flip and roll off because you can pull it out the ground for a
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third of the current price the question is and oh i've got about 12 seconds left the the the um the
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question is right can things like comex get through this crisis without having to do something stupid
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like converting um settlement to cash only destroying the value of the future markets in the process
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so there you go in 90 seconds that's as quickly as i can describe the silver thing have fun beware
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that that yes that that is the key thing right okay um and on that bombshell i i guess we have to
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we have to leave it now so um cheerio until tomorrow