The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1351

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to podcast of the Lotus Eaters edition 1351. It's a special one tomorrow isn't

00:00:07.080 it? 1352 that's a special number. Is it? Is it? Yeah it's uh. You're the historian Bo explain it.

00:00:13.100 It's not a date it's a crime statistic. 13% of the population 52% of the murders. Is it 52% now?

00:00:21.140 Well that's what it used to be it's gone up they've upped their game. Right. I think it's 56 now.

00:00:26.360 Well good to see somebody's working hard given the inefficiencies in the state that I'll be talking

00:00:31.260 about in my segment. Yes on the 10th of February year of our Lord 2026 I'm joined as you as you know

00:00:38.200 by Bo and Josh. Now today we are going to be talking about how the shuffling corpse of Starmer's career

00:00:47.080 just won't die. Apparently you need to you need a headshot to put these things down. We're gonna

00:00:52.440 see his death throes. The death rattles isn't it? Yes. Perhaps perhaps. I mean how he's still

00:00:57.640 animated we don't we don't really know. We're going to be talking about how Farage will talk

00:01:02.440 about literally anything including taking away your work-life balance instead of re-migration

00:01:07.760 and and you've uncovered hard evidence that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself and nor did

00:01:13.160 anybody else. Not quite hard evidence but I'll be talking about it in a fair and even-handed

00:01:18.800 way although personally you know I don't think there's a smoking gun there. Although I see why

00:01:24.620 people believe it and I'm going to be presenting. I choose to believe it. Well I'll see you evidence

00:01:29.800 and then and then and then I'll choose to believe it. Two announcements. If you're not already watching

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00:01:50.920 When I'm not commuting I do watch it so it is it is actually very good. It's it is the best breakfast

00:01:56.620 show. Oh easily. Around. Easily. Yeah. What are you gonna do? Watch Jeremy Kyle? Watch Mike Graham?

00:02:01.700 Come on. No. Get a clue. You can't watch him anymore can you? He's gone. I like the I like Graham.

00:02:07.540 The gimmick thing. As in he's got fired from talk. Oh no he's got his own thing. Oh right. He's got his own thing.

00:02:12.820 And I love your gimmick thing at the beginning with the eye. I like that. What's that? What bit's

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00:03:07.820 of the lotus eaters we haven't done a segment just updating everyone on everything that's happening

00:03:12.140 with the collapse of the british government if you in like the we didn't do it yesterday and so

00:03:18.300 basically it needs an update for everything that's happened over the weekend and the last couple of

00:03:21.960 days and even friday and stuff so there's a fair few if you've been living under a rock

00:03:26.180 um we'll just catch you up with everything i presume that yesterday they kind of hoped that

00:03:31.460 he might resign by like 12 or something well so they wanted to hold on it was really hanging by a

00:03:38.360 thread yes yesterday he came very very close within a whisker of the british government collapsing

00:03:44.780 yesterday didn't he announce he was going to give a press conference and then decided oh that was

00:03:49.100 sunday night wasn't it yeah and then half an hour later it was oh i'll change my mind i'm going to try

00:03:54.380 and stick it out yeah so it's really really hanging in the balance certainly yesterday about late

00:04:02.020 afternoon yesterday very early evening it was touch and go really really touch and go people that

00:04:07.880 really really know what they're talking about saying that he was living hour by hour the british

00:04:11.800 government was surviving hour to hour yesterday well that sounds nice so um its position is a tiny bit

00:04:19.380 more shored up at this point in time but not you know still not much i'm not sure if you're going

00:04:23.820 to go into it but it was very interesting to see just how many people from his own party were calling

00:04:29.460 for him to resign yeah quite a few and obviously he's getting attacked from both the right of him

00:04:35.220 and the left of him as well from you know reform voters and and those further right and green party

00:04:41.940 members and and and pretty much everyone and his own party so he's got very few friends left

00:04:48.540 very very few so quickly to run through obviously all the opposition parties all of them from nige to

00:04:56.460 that that polanski dude and of course the tories and the lib dems all of them are calling for him

00:05:02.040 to go of course a lot of the media calling for him to go uh the head of the fire brigade union called

00:05:07.180 the the head of uh scottish labor uh what is it uh that sawa is an indian name isn't it yeah

00:05:14.980 scottish labor sawa yeah um he he called for him to go um obviously quite a lot of labor backbenchers

00:05:21.960 have been saying it for a while but it all boiled down to yesterday that he had a big meeting in

00:05:27.160 parliament with a lot of the backbenchers well all the mps basic more or less and uh that was sort

00:05:32.400 of a crunch moment but they backed him up there wasn't just a unanimous chorus of them saying you

00:05:38.420 must go and then after that all the cabinet members basically got on twitter or briefed the mainstream

00:05:44.080 media saying we still stand behind the prime minister so he clung on if that meeting had gone

00:05:49.520 differently uh the government probably would have collapsed yesterday but it didn't i imagine clinging

00:05:55.740 on he's really clinging on sorry um i imagine that his line to them would probably have been

00:06:00.920 listen we can achieve more of what we all want to do with me in office than you know swapping

00:06:06.380 leaders and then having lots of people say you need to call an election and blah blah blah and so i

00:06:11.980 think that that's probably the only thing he could have said in his position to sort of reassure them

00:06:18.520 um because obviously there's lots of factionalism in the labor party which has been a sort of perennial

00:06:25.260 problem for you're kind of pointing to that he he can just press the self-destruct button whenever he

00:06:29.400 wants because he can say to them if you make me resign i'll just call an election and then you

00:06:35.200 will all lose your job as well i mean i'd be surprised if he did that he might not have said

00:06:42.620 it like that but there's a way that you could say that without saying it you could even imply it by

00:06:47.760 saying well if i go you'll have to you know pick a new leader and then the electorate will have to

00:06:53.420 and then you'll have to get a proper job and none of you are capable of doing a proper job

00:06:56.960 first thing to say is that uh if he did resign it doesn't mean that whoever takes his place that

00:07:01.640 would trigger a labor leadership election of course but whoever wins that doesn't necessarily have to

00:07:07.120 go back that is true they don't have to yeah yeah no they really don't have to i mean this trust

00:07:11.140 decided to but usually they don't gordon brown didn't john major didn't there's a sort of loose

00:07:17.200 convention people talk about it didn't right this trust wasn't going to it didn't look like so

00:07:22.800 they don't have to at all one thing i did find interesting is wes streeting one of the

00:07:27.320 front runners to replace starmer said that if he is replaced or a prime minister is replaced

00:07:34.120 there should be a general election yeah i think that's fair i would i do agree with that sentiment

00:07:40.500 i think that is the most reasonable thing because it is a change of direction and it is something

00:07:44.940 different than people voted for i've always thought i remember when it happened even i was quite young

00:07:50.160 when john major did it and of course when gordon brown did it if if it was me if i was a senior

00:07:56.700 member of a party and the leader left and i became the next leader i would definitely call an election

00:08:01.060 on principle on general principle i wouldn't want to rule without a mandate so i remember that brown

00:08:06.660 didn't i can't remember with john major did he call an election or did he just he just carried on

00:08:11.560 for a while until it was time and then did it and then and then he squeaked it didn't he john major

00:08:16.400 in what 92 he squeaked it in 92 to be fair he wasn't expected to win that one so he didn't he

00:08:20.900 wasn't yeah right yeah that was a surprise everyone expected the sleazy tory government of the 80s and

00:08:26.940 early 90s to i mean lose that but to be fair by winning that election he doomed the country because

00:08:31.900 if he had lost 92 we would have got john smith and then labour would be out in one term instead

00:08:36.840 he held on long enough for the rise of tony blair well wasn't it still kinnock in 92 wasn't it john

00:08:43.560 major versus kinnock oh yeah it might be yeah so you wouldn't want the lord clinic kinnock yeah but

00:08:48.080 it would have been one term of kinnock and instead we got blair so if if kinnock didn't he fall over

00:08:54.440 at the beach that was much earlier that was in like 1982 or something but yeah yeah yeah still you

00:08:59.800 can't be prime minister after that you can't fall over on the beach on camera and then be prime

00:09:03.740 minister you can't well yeah but bojo got stuck on that on that line with the little flags and i think

00:09:10.020 that only helped him to be honest somehow humbling somehow he should have left him on the line

00:09:14.640 so the latest stuff that's happening if you watch the bo show in the morning i go through the the

00:09:20.220 paper so this is just um what's in the papers uh as of this morning and a lot of it is about

00:09:26.200 sort of when star was going to go even though he managed to avoid uh being ousted yesterday just

00:09:34.640 about it's they're still sort of looking forward to at some point when it happens if labour lose that

00:09:40.300 by election in manchester in two weeks time uh or when really they get trounced at the local elections

00:09:46.700 in may it doesn't seem like with the best within the world star was going to make it another three

00:09:51.580 and a half years no so we're sort of looking ahead to sort of a post starmer world you know who's it

00:09:57.560 going to be but then you could argue that now he's come this far like olympic clinging onto the

00:10:04.000 hull of a ship he's going to you know stay there for as long as he possibly can and so no matter how

00:10:09.580 many scandals how unpopular he is he's just going to weather the storm and by constitutional right

00:10:15.260 you know we've got an uncodified constitution well this could be the last ever labour government

00:10:19.920 that's true yeah so the longer he holds on the more people are going to hate them well it's not

00:10:25.180 simply about how stubborn starmer wants to be it's whether his own backbenchers trigger some sort of

00:10:31.300 vote of no confidence against him and he loses so in other words a bit like maggie thatcher in 1991

00:10:37.400 um if her own party his own party come to him and say look all the backbenchers all the parliamentary

00:10:44.620 the labour parliamentary party have got the numbers and the will to launch a vote of no confidence

00:10:51.840 and they will win if you let that happen they they will win then it doesn't matter how really

00:10:58.420 stubborn starmer wants to be he will have to leave well he might actually go through the process of

00:11:03.760 having the vote of no confidence but assuming he would lose that then he would have to leave so

00:11:08.960 yeah um but they can't blow him up without losing their jobs as well so the same deterrence they would

00:11:16.980 kick their jobs though for another three and a half years at least assuming whoever took over

00:11:20.900 didn't call a general election they would if it's no if it's a vote of no confidence that brings down

00:11:26.040 the government yeah so so they wouldn't be able to do a vote of no confidence without triggering

00:11:30.140 an election it would have to be they could didn't they i believe so i believe so yeah right maybe i'm

00:11:38.980 going to check it i mean well look at what happened when um look what happened when what like rishi took

00:11:45.300 over or trust took over and then rishi or look what happened when well they didn't really go they

00:11:51.260 didn't go through the full process you're right apparently it doesn't automatically trigger an

00:11:56.200 election oh i remember looking at this now there's a specific wording that you need to include

00:12:01.640 to make it binding to trigger an election but um it initiates a 14-day period where the government

00:12:08.080 must regain the confidence of the house of commons or face a mandatory general election so that's the

00:12:12.360 one yeah so there's a window of time all right yes all right so it's a bit more complicated i think

00:12:17.080 so we're looking at who will be next really uh there was all talk of wedge streeting you know his name

00:12:24.540 has been thrown around even in the last few months before even the latest mandelson epstein scandal

00:12:30.640 really hit it was whenever there's talk or or whispers of a coup an internal coup it's streeting's

00:12:37.200 name that has always come and he's their best option well is he i mean so all the main players

00:12:43.500 aren't they would be streeting rainer uh cooper mahmood maybe that powell that lucy powell woman

00:12:51.860 ed milliband david lammy it would it's likely to be one of those names isn't it please let it be david

00:12:59.200 lammy i'm not an accelerationist i can't i can't agree with you there it'd be so fun it would be funny

00:13:05.800 but it'd be more for me it'd be more humiliating than funny prime minister's question times would

00:13:10.900 be a ugandan arguing with a with a nigerian yeah is that good why is that good because i mean if

00:13:18.320 you're going to it's amusing but if you if you're going to embrace the state that britain i want future

00:13:23.880 historians to look back and say why did it get to that before they did whatever you know yeah i don't

00:13:32.340 i get that it's funny but it's just more humiliating than funny though there is yeah but i mean i'm

00:13:39.080 pretty long on humiliation at this point i know lammy will will be going on and on about being the

00:13:46.200 first black prime minister and blah blah blah it'd be terrible yes well on the beau show the morning

00:13:51.440 breakfast show i did do a poll a few days back saying who would you want it to be out of all those and

00:13:56.000 lammy won yeah so it won quite easily got like 46 percent of the vote we gave like four names and

00:14:03.560 he easily won you want a labour prime minister who doesn't utterly embarrass you then yeah i mean i if

00:14:11.540 it was up to me i could just press a button i would probably pick yvette cooper she's the least

00:14:16.180 embarrassing she's the closest thing to an actual serious states person yes as crazy as that is to

00:14:22.720 pinch myself right yeah those words coming out of my mouth am i really saying that but still when

00:14:27.380 you look at the names like what like reina ed miller band they should pick reina because she's she i

00:14:34.780 mean she's the only one of them that has any personality she actually she's actually got a big

00:14:39.660 personality and and if i was if i was labour i'd be thinking what is going to preserve somewhere in

00:14:46.380 the region of 100 to 150 seats i wouldn't be going to win okay who's going to preserve 100

00:14:51.400 limitation yes and i think reina is the only one who's got enough personality that people will feel

00:14:57.340 oh yeah okay i'll still vote labour strategically as well it makes sense for labour because of course

00:15:02.120 they're hemorrhaging votes to reform and getting a northerner in yeah might help i see i see the point

00:15:08.960 you're making um yeah maybe maybe we shall see um so yeah west treating was like some said he was

00:15:18.420 attempted a coup i mean it was the most weak-wristed lame-ass coup possible it wasn't it wasn't he bottled

00:15:25.200 it another headline says that he literally bottled it um yeah pm comes out fighting he's saying he's

00:15:32.420 saying uh every political fight i've ever had i've always won stand behind me one of the biggest

00:15:36.920 arguments they were making is that people hated it and they did when the tories kept changing leadership

00:15:42.500 uh so let's stop you've got to stand behind keir starmer labour mps you've got to stand behind him

00:15:48.440 because i mean the thing is they're going to lose at the next general election anyway so but i mean to

00:15:54.160 be fair the only reason he's won every political fight he's ever had is because he just gets people

00:15:57.780 arrested when they disagree with him yeah has he had any real knockdown serious political fights in

00:16:02.680 his life wasn't he just parachuted in whenever he wanted to yes and because he's like an old school

00:16:07.500 lefty he was just allowed to climb the greasy pole he's the fabian front man right exactly so did he

00:16:14.400 ever have to really fight for his position all that much not really the stomach of fires calls to stand

00:16:20.320 down okay and the other thing uh the express calling for him to resign now yeah um so uh he lost

00:16:29.960 morgan mcsweeney we haven't even covered that that was on sunday sunday evening sunday afternoon

00:16:34.880 morgan mcsweeney the chief of staff number 10 chief of staff he resigned about 24 hours later there

00:16:39.960 was uh um what's his name uh tim allen the head of community executive head of communication

00:16:45.900 wasn't he the guy who did the show about home improvements yeah that that's yeah

00:16:49.100 tim the tool man taylor right yeah is that before your time do you remember that home improvement

00:16:54.360 a little bit before my time you know the actor tim allen though yes i do yeah right

00:16:58.360 how is he relevant here also there's tim allen the actor and there's a completely different

00:17:04.060 man that happens to be called tim allen oh i see that that's what was confusing who was the head

00:17:08.260 who was until yesterday the head of communications at number 10 he's been around forever he's been

00:17:13.380 around since 1997 that tim allen he's only been in that job since september because the last one

00:17:18.200 had had enough i i think the morgan mcsweeney one is a major mistake from what point of view do you mean

00:17:23.800 and and i put this from starmer's point of view yeah so so you know how on the right we have learned

00:17:29.320 when the left is coming for you never apologize because they just smell blood and then they go

00:17:33.860 for you yeah i think politicians have not learned that throwing this guy under the bus all it's

00:17:39.100 going to do is put blood in the water yeah well it's admitting a mistake isn't it if you say no

00:17:43.600 actually you know more he wasn't guilty of mandelson's crimes therefore we shouldn't punish him

00:17:48.920 you know it might be good enough to carry on the correct political way of playing this

00:17:54.180 would be before he got beat up at pmqs by kemi was to come out hard on mandelson and say we're

00:18:00.080 investigating him for treason and and that would have neutralized the issue it would have taken

00:18:04.100 away kemi's power it would have direct and he could have driven events but instead he's being

00:18:07.780 driven by events it's a fair take but i think blair got rid of treason he did yeah didn't he so

00:18:13.480 that's not actually i think he got rid of the death penalty for it we definitely well we haven't had

00:18:17.660 the death penalty for since what the 60s we literally he should actually execute oh no you're right

00:18:22.460 we got rid of the death penalty apart from for treason and then that's what blair got rid of

00:18:28.340 right so you can still be done for treason you just can't be executed for it but he should

00:18:32.100 he should genuinely execute mandelson because it's that is pretty much the only way to restore the

00:18:37.400 public's faith in government at this point legally of course oh yeah oh you just take you just

00:18:43.600 changed i mean he's got a majority i mean you could push it through in public at tyburn

00:18:47.220 old school 17th century style hung by the neck at tyburn what's a tyburn is that a place in london

00:18:55.520 yeah oh it's uh well it's where marble arches now i believe it's where marble arches is that what we

00:19:02.060 used to be called tyburn do we not ever do any of the i mean you're a historian you know do we not

00:19:05.580 ever do the more creative stuff like the iron bull and whatever you know the fire bull that's like

00:19:09.820 ancient ancient greece um no it's usually just being hung wasn't it usually it depends how far back

00:19:15.340 you go right if you go back to medieval times there's sort of all sorts of different things

00:19:19.240 right being hung drawn on quarters for example you can see the slippery slope as soon as you start

00:19:23.980 going soft on punishment you can just see and then it ends up with like nothing zero compromise on

00:19:29.360 quartering is what you're arguing make quartering great again is that what you're saying okay um so

00:19:36.620 the next thing that might happen is that the cabinet secretary himself chris warmold um that people

00:19:41.980 some people are saying that he's well he's wanted to go for a while now but he might go in the next

00:19:46.820 few days of course that would be pretty massive the cabinet secretary the highest sort of civil servant

00:19:51.880 essentially is that the new sir humphrey is yeah i mean what's what's the humphrey maybe in yes prime

00:19:57.200 minister sir humphrey was actually the cabinet secretary but he was just a permanent secretary

00:20:01.060 and yes prime and yes minister but anyway yeah anyway the point is um if he went that would be another

00:20:06.020 massive blow another massive blow um so that that might happen and of course if labour lose that

00:20:12.280 manchester by-election then or if they get badly beaten in it right if they come third or something

00:20:18.140 then surely there'll be another whole round of trying to remove starmer from his position but he will

00:20:25.980 be stubborn right until men or women in gray suits come to number 10 and say the numbers are against you

00:20:31.680 you will lose a vote of no confidence and they're gonna do it until that happens he won't resign i

00:20:37.660 don't think right i think we can agree i think we can count on that yeah are you mentioning women in

00:20:43.300 gray suits because that's your next link because the new the new morgan mcstanley is literally two

00:20:48.320 boss women is it your boss girls and that was a reference to again when they got rid of thatcher

00:20:54.680 the law around that was that men in gray suits came to tell her it's over law as an l-o-r-e yeah

00:21:03.140 yeah yeah the mythos around that was that men in gray suits came to tell her but what i'm sorry

00:21:08.780 it is it is women now well there was an article earlier it was it must have been last week that

00:21:15.060 they that labour said someone in labour said that when that happens to starmer we're going to send

00:21:21.280 women in gray suits okay they were virtually signaling about how progressive they are that

00:21:25.420 when that happens we should send women in gray suits say that they wouldn't color gray suits oh

00:21:29.500 yeah i hope they need to be disabled women of color in gray suits don't they really yes ideally or why

00:21:35.540 not you know go the whole hog and just make them non-binary yes i mean if they're disabled shouldn't

00:21:40.780 it be orange suits what what like they're from an american prison or something they're from

00:21:47.020 quite a ton of my bag no maybe maybe disabled people don't wear orange i don't know i was

00:21:52.640 um that's the dutch i think yeah uh so yeah uh starmer's clinging on by his fingernails at the

00:22:02.740 moment i mean the financial times doing a piece what is the road the route to recovery i mean

00:22:07.740 he's sort of fundamentally weakened isn't he really um what road could to recovery could he have with

00:22:15.820 his politics everything he wants to do is against everything the country wants yeah well there was

00:22:22.440 one data point that someone said actually in a super chat this morning which was interesting they

00:22:27.560 said remember when maggie thatcher the first couple of years of maggie thatcher's premiership

00:22:32.140 she was one of the most unpopular pms of all time and then after the falklands happened

00:22:36.820 she went to the second most popular after winston churchill of all time and i said yeah fine good

00:22:42.860 point interesting and good point but you see something like that happening for secure he just

00:22:47.820 needs to engineer a situation where russia invades the isle of wight because i mean anything else i mean

00:22:52.860 we wouldn't do the falklands today yeah we might be able to retake the isle of wight

00:22:56.480 and it's an astounding battlefield win and everyone loves secure suddenly yeah it's not like something

00:23:04.200 like that isn't likely to happen leading from the front as well yes like the route that he could

00:23:09.360 rebuild the team around him and um turn it all around and be popular again and win at a general

00:23:15.260 election it's it's unlikely isn't it uh but there you go um it feels like the secure stomach premiership

00:23:23.880 is you know the clock is ticking one way or another i would be extreme i'd be find it extremely unlikely

00:23:30.780 that he's still here by the end of may to be fair the something's gonna topple it isn't it

00:23:35.440 the clock was ticking the moment he came out for child murderers and rapists and against the

00:23:40.820 population of england back in the southport riots yeah well they don't they weren't riots the the

00:23:46.660 only way they got rioted was because the police went in with their size 12s and riled people up to

00:23:51.640 the point where they got pissed off i mean it was from that moment onwards he was finished well he is

00:23:57.000 the most unpopular prime minister of all time right going back to walpole even just of all time yes so

00:24:02.660 i feel like he might last now until that by election which is two weeks thursdays that is

00:24:10.080 and if they lose that he'll probably be gone around then if they win that maybe again he can

00:24:16.880 cling on till may but then surely in may when they surely get trounced in the local elections

00:24:23.300 it's going to be impossible there'll be loads of people that it's gonna be lammy

00:24:27.620 once once the uh once the cabinet ministers start resigning one after the other there's

00:24:35.660 domino effect like they do with boys yeah yeah yeah once that process begins surely it's the end

00:24:43.500 but we'll see we'll see what happens yes um comedy comment things can you see your comments bow or

00:24:52.260 uh yeah just about my things in the way but if you go ahead and read them for me that won't i

00:24:58.600 wouldn't mind uh singlestone when is the release of lotus eater sigma um i don't know i've not had to

00:25:07.020 concern myself with that end of the uh of the alphabet uh he also says imagine getting uh brutally

00:25:12.160 um frame mogged while star magooning in front of the cortisol spiking folds what the hell are you

00:25:18.920 talking about yeah i see you've seen that post as well um oh i saw your response to it you had the

00:25:26.080 same exact thought as i did and you referenced clockwork orange all right um it did remind me

00:25:32.420 of that sort of complete um vocabulary of slang terms all it was was there was a tweet during the

00:25:40.100 rounds on twitter where someone some zoomers using so much slang in and around like the dating scene

00:25:45.980 an incel scene that it was just absurd it barely made any sense it doesn't really make sense well

00:25:51.800 me too the only reason i saw it is because loads of people like nick dixon stelios were joking about

00:25:56.320 it and retweeting it and and and clowning on it was funny it was funny yeah it's kind of funny so

00:26:02.000 opak says something about rent boys i don't know why you're bringing up rent boys we were talking about

00:26:05.500 starmer um but i can't read that anyway um gerald possibly uh says uh if it's a you can uh ugandan and

00:26:14.680 nigerian at pmqs does that make us a banana republic i don't know why you're making that connection sir

00:26:19.620 i just think it's a historic first i just think that's interesting um and and and logan pine says

00:26:26.140 i have a feeling that the bunker walls are closing in and they'll be gone by the end of the month i

00:26:30.580 think it's at the part of downfall where he's requesting gasoline right yeah uh oh and magnus

00:26:39.900 um he says i'm an american who just recently started following premier league football oh you

00:26:45.960 have my condolences um would you say uh this one is still an institution in the uk and how far how

00:26:52.780 has it managed to stay healthy i don't know i don't want it's adopted a bit of wokeness like they they

00:26:57.360 have all of their um initiatives of like yes get racism out of football did they nil for blm uh they did

00:27:04.400 but the fans booed okay football has been at the forefront of anti-racism my almost my entire life

00:27:11.080 i remember even in the 90s even in the early 90s it was let's kick racism out of football that's been

00:27:16.340 around since they for a long time and they have these initiatives like the lgbt ones and and so

00:27:22.860 there's a lot of sort of left-wing politics in it but the the sport itself you can still watch a game

00:27:28.400 and it's unaffected by it i suppose but you know my team is plymouth argyle so we don't ever play in the

00:27:34.300 premier league i didn't even know that was a team to be honest oh cheers um i don't know anything

00:27:39.020 about football so uh nigel farage in an attempt to talk about absolutely anything apart from

00:27:46.200 remigration has decided that he's coming for your work-life balance uh samson do you want to play

00:27:51.100 the the clip can't go on the sick because you've got mild anxiety but it is an attitudinal change

00:28:00.140 that britain needs an attitudinal change to hard work rather than work-life balance

00:28:06.760 an attitudinal change to the idea of working from home people aren't more productive working at home

00:28:15.340 it's a load of nonsense they're more productive being with other fellow human beings and working

00:28:22.840 as part of a team and every retired boomer cheered every retired boomer clapped yeah yeah samson why

00:28:31.160 don't you play that again from from about the halfway mark but with the sound off just so we can we just

00:28:35.480 so we can enjoy the um there we go the audience there we are um so this this was filmed on a monday

00:28:43.480 afternoon while parliament was sitting um yeah farage wasn't in the office um nor was anyone in the in

00:28:53.320 the studio there or the or the conference hall but uh no apparently the rest of us aren't allowed to

00:28:57.880 work from home anymore there's still a few heads there we're coloring their hair just um she could pass for

00:29:05.000 50 um so what do we think about this lads because i've actually worked from home the last probably

00:29:13.320 year 18 months or so before i started working at load seaters i worked from home yeah um in in you know

00:29:20.360 like a a proper relatively higher pressure job where you couldn't really get away with not doing stuff

00:29:28.040 you were being monitored the whole time remotely i think that's the issue and um i actually got way more

00:29:33.240 done at home because i was so paranoid that i was going to get a reputation for slacking off

00:29:38.920 and so i found myself working into the evening um it was like it was worse i did more working from

00:29:47.640 home but i could also see the argument how a lot of people depending on what your job is really yeah

00:29:51.720 you just sort of pretend you're doing work and you're not really well we have a hybrid model here

00:29:55.720 don't we we we kind of like one day a week or something you can you can work from home i think

00:29:59.640 that's the most common where they they still call people into the office um but you have some days

00:30:05.800 where you work from home of course the the rise of work from home jobs is a covered thing but it's

00:30:10.920 one of the few good things that's come out of it really but also the tech just enables it yeah well

00:30:16.040 there's not really any reason to have the office space it makes sense for a business to not have the

00:30:21.160 office overheads um you know you you don't have to pay for as much office space if you've always got

00:30:27.240 people working from home or you can base your entire business as well and it is not just the

00:30:31.560 rents as well i mean what happened is is is rents were going up then we had covid now nobody wants to

00:30:36.680 work in an office anymore and so the rents are coming down but the business rates are still going

00:30:43.000 up so you pay almost as much in business rates as you do in rent these days so he's going to have to

00:30:49.080 re-engineer a whole bunch of things that i mean people maintaining a huge office so that people

00:30:54.520 could pretend to work it's just not viable the cost base anymore i mean where i said i've worked

00:30:59.720 from home for the last sort of year or 18 months whatever it was before that i worked in offices

00:31:04.360 commuted from essex into london and worked in an office for like 16 odd years so i've also lived that

00:31:12.360 experience for many many many years and one thing was great was to not have to commute not spend loads

00:31:18.520 of money on the commute commute thousands of pounds a year and the stress of it and having to get up

00:31:23.080 much much earlier and then sometimes i've did lots of different types of jobs sometimes the office

00:31:28.280 environment is really really toxic and horrible dehumanizing even something if you sometimes if

00:31:33.480 you're in a little cubicle on your own and you're completely atomized and people you work with are dicks

00:31:39.720 and you hate them and they hate you and there's all sorts of office politics loads of things are better

00:31:43.560 from work by working from home loads and loads of things are better but it's not perfect there are

00:31:48.440 some downsides to it as well like you can you can be atomized in that way that you you find yourself

00:31:53.560 never leaving the house or you feel like it's like a millstone around your neck and you have to work

00:31:58.200 harder and also commuting into london these days it's because you're getting pushed out further because

00:32:04.280 of rents you're having to commute longer and you're wedged in increasingly with people who aren't even

00:32:09.160 english do that every day when you come in and it's just like well why what i don't understand why

00:32:15.480 he thinks that this is an appropriate because he's speaking as basically the presumed prime minister

00:32:21.960 so there's there's weight behind the stuff that he says like why is this any business of the government

00:32:27.480 it should be purely private enterprise question i thought he was meant to be free market yet this is not

00:32:34.360 especially in keeping with that well it sounded to me like he's trying to uphold the social contract

00:32:39.240 and i think you all know what i mean which is yes this um you know we've got to nick 30 poor old nick 30

00:32:47.480 because what he's basically saying is is we need to drive productivity as high as possible well you've

00:32:51.960 got to remember this like there's officially 70 million people in this country it's probably 80 or 90

00:32:57.640 of those 30 million are working of half of those are getting basically benefits that add up to more

00:33:05.320 than their tax contribution so this country is being propped up on the back of about 15 million nicks

00:33:12.360 well i know how that feels i am 30 years old and the government is milking me for cash yeah

00:33:19.240 there's no goodwill for this it's basically just breeding an entire generation of resentful people who

00:33:25.480 hate how things work yeah and if virage is then going out of his way to say you know that one

00:33:32.440 consolation that you get to work from home you get to wake up and maybe still wear your pajama bottoms

00:33:37.400 in your meetings and and be a little bit comfortable i'm going to take that away from you yeah i think

00:33:41.560 that that's going to be a really sore why don't you all you literally nigel all you need to do

00:33:47.560 is talk about re-migration and then do it yeah but what why are you pissing away goodwill from all

00:33:55.240 the nicks who want to vote for you take away the one thing that makes their life somewhat bearable

00:34:01.000 one or two days a week i don't i don't get it well because it's a containment machine it doesn't

00:34:05.960 actually want to win it's deliberately tanking it because that's what nigel always does well it's

00:34:09.400 an unforced error at the very least isn't it okay isn't it funny that we used to talk about two

00:34:16.680 two things we used to talk about loads is the size classroom sizes that was always a political

00:34:22.440 talking point oh yeah um the number how many millions of people are unemployed at any given

00:34:27.320 moment massive political talking point never really hear any of the either of those two things very much

00:34:31.480 it's so far down the i mean there's still problems but they're so far down the priority list

00:34:35.800 we don't even touch them anymore like how many millions of people just simply don't work it's

00:34:40.360 not in the paper it's not in the news much the politicians don't argue and talk about it all

00:34:44.600 that much your classroom size exploding don't talk about that because it flies in the face of

00:34:52.120 and also they don't speak english in as a first language when they get them into school so they're

00:34:55.480 having to spend a lot of effort into that as well when the other thing that really doesn't help with

00:35:00.520 this is um is if you look at faraj's donors i mean we got for some reason this guy is he's one of his

00:35:08.120 major donors sashan garhan dairy sassan garhan dairy so he he is the iranian billionaire um they call

00:35:20.120 him the brit the iranian born british donor um and he runs a property company and and as we know the big

00:35:27.240 problem with property companies is they've got loads of empty offices and also um property

00:35:32.520 companies were when the conservative party were in government a third of their donors and of course

00:35:38.840 that creates an incentive for the party to push up the cost of property which means growing the

00:35:43.480 population and the only way to grow the population in the current paradigm is to import more people

00:35:49.480 apparently from the and stop the people who are paying for that importation um to leave offices

00:35:55.240 because your donors have got lots of commercial property and then there's also um of course the

00:35:59.880 other one is is is richard tice um we all know he's a businessman but what is he a businessman of

00:36:06.920 um oh it's it's it's property asset management there we go that that's that's his career property asset

00:36:13.480 management and so yeah these incentives are not positive because one of the ways you know if i could pick

00:36:22.200 three things that would increase the quality of life of the british people mass deportations

00:36:28.760 reducing property prices which of course that first one does as well um is the first one because it's

00:36:34.760 a bubble you know the only reason people are investing so much in property is because the economy is bad in

00:36:39.400 the first place and it's fixing the economy yes like those three things all linked together

00:36:45.480 but all far more important to people than forcing them to work in the office i think you're right

00:36:53.240 when you said all he should really be talking about is re-migration re-migration re-migration yes

00:36:57.720 that's what i would be doing because that fixes so many things if you get rid of the few million

00:37:02.120 people that are here that shouldn't be not just the social fabric and not just our demographic future

00:37:08.280 but just pressure on everything from the nhs on down housing wages everything prisons so should just

00:37:14.920 everything yeah school sizes classroom sizes um so it should just be banging that drum constantly

00:37:23.320 but he's too much of a political weakling to do that and he's too scared of what robert peston might

00:37:28.680 say yeah i mean farage himself hasn't worked in an office job since 1994 now if we could have the world

00:37:35.400 of 1994 back where you got a job even in a big city and you could afford to rent i mean in 1994 you could

00:37:43.480 afford to rent for most jobs those city-based jobs somewhere within zone one or two i wasn't even born

00:37:51.240 until the following year was that i wasn't even born until the following year that i honestly that is

00:37:56.360 the biggest financial mistake that i see people making is is being born after about 1980 i know it

00:38:03.080 was a bit of a poor decision on my part but i'll try and you know correct it it seems careless yes i'm

00:38:08.840 sorry all right i made a mistake if you can't get that right you cannot expect to have any assets

00:38:13.560 in life yes but it was a different world back then yeah i was only in like year nine yeah but

00:38:19.560 don't you remember when we first sort of went to the city yeah you know you might live in like zone three

00:38:24.840 or four if you wanted to but you could at least rent somewhere within the center because these days i mean

00:38:31.880 buying is completely out the window and even renting out in bloody zone five or six is difficult

00:38:37.160 enough yeah yeah i know people who've got very very high salaries living in london they're still

00:38:43.720 living in a flat share yes as in you know into their late 20s early 30s with a professional career

00:38:51.880 done everything right they still can't and actually if you look at those professional careers in london yes

00:38:56.200 they do pay more but you actually arbitrage away all of it to boomer landlords so the only reason

00:39:03.800 to take a high paying career in london is if you're so if you're so convinced that your salary is going

00:39:08.600 to do a sort of parabolic rise then it's worth doing but you're actually better off just getting

00:39:13.640 a normal job outside london and paying like some small amount well all the smartest people i know have

00:39:21.480 got a london based job where they work from home yeah that's like it's the only way to make it viable

00:39:27.720 that's the the sort of uh meta of the economy at the minute is you work from home so you don't have

00:39:33.000 to live in london whilst getting a london salary um bit like reform then i mean they've got a whole

00:39:40.360 bunch of these jobs which are work from home remote and actually i to be fair to him if he was talking

00:39:48.680 about the public sector then i'd grant it yeah the civil service had a bit of a scandal a little

00:39:54.520 while ago didn't they where it came out that they were doing things like gardening and all sorts of

00:39:58.840 things i was pretty happy with that because the less work they do the better but yeah it's a fair

00:40:04.760 point um from the perspective of someone who actually wants to use the government i imagine that's not

00:40:09.960 very pleasant the problem is is that public sector productivity has not risen since the 80s so that

00:40:16.920 basically meant they got pcs they got internet they've now got ai they've got remote um you know

00:40:24.120 data storage digital data storage all of those things have had zero impact on public sector

00:40:29.320 productivity now obviously those things did have an increase but they just absorbed it by having more

00:40:34.920 meetings and more bureaucracy and more layers to stuff they also pay themselves a lot more these days

00:40:40.520 as well well that as well salaries of the the public sector have gone up much more so than the private

00:40:47.560 sector and it's at the cost of the private sector because of course the private sector then pays for it

00:40:53.080 and of course it's not equal as well in a lot of the pay rises are for civil servants and the like

00:40:58.600 not you know nurses so i think i think the issue that he's really circling is that um public sector

00:41:05.480 productivity is incredibly low and they are taking the piss probably on work from home

00:41:10.280 but he should address that directly and not go after the relationship that people have with their

00:41:14.840 employers because that is entirely up to them one thing i could think of is that he might be worried

00:41:21.560 that the the civil service is going to be so hostile to him that he doesn't want to call them

00:41:26.120 out directly because then they'll just be uh you know well he's the wrong man for the job then if

00:41:31.320 he's worried about i agree i agree but i think it might be occurring to him because he still thinks

00:41:36.360 about things in these sorts of terms that he's going to come in and everything's going to work

00:41:40.600 and people are going to do what he says yeah again he's a political weakling the government

00:41:47.720 to to do what's necessary needs to go to war with whitehall essentially force them bend them to your will

00:41:55.080 make them fulfill the government policy fire loads of the permanent secretaries if you need to

00:42:01.960 change everyone everyone in the cabinet office if you need to like the government would need to

00:42:07.480 dominate really really dominate the civil service well the correct thing to do like nigel's obviously

00:42:12.280 got no intention of doing anything of the kind has he or hiring anyone capable of doing that well

00:42:16.840 the correct thing to do is to get rid of at least half of the government departments as is

00:42:20.520 yeah get rid of as well as as well as have a very deep purge of the civil service in the first place

00:42:28.440 because a lot of them as we know are very much politically motivated we've got hard evidence of

00:42:33.720 that um and all the scandals and stories coming out so so to be fair i did in between leaving the city

00:42:39.720 and coming here i did i did a bit of contract work for various places and i did a bit uh in local

00:42:45.240 government and i thought i was going to get it sorted out in no time because i just assumed as

00:42:50.440 a sort of right winger that i was going to walk into this organization and find that it was lavishly

00:42:55.400 overfunded because i could see from the outside they had this huge budget and i walked in there and

00:43:00.920 i was really shocked because what actually what i actually found was that the entire organization

00:43:05.960 was utterly threadbare right really they had penny pinched to the nth degree and then i worked out

00:43:13.880 okay what's actually happening is they've had all this remit expansion where they're going to do

00:43:18.600 all of these different things and then they've aggressively cut those programs every time and

00:43:23.960 we've got to the point where it's trying to do hundreds of different things but not financing each of

00:43:30.600 them to the point where they can actually do that thing but the overall budget of trying to do

00:43:35.720 everything on a threadbare basis still adds up to a big budget so then i was like okay well that's

00:43:41.000 fairly simple then you need to identify the top you know 10 things that you actually want to do

00:43:47.400 put all your effort into that and just chop the function of the other you know 90 of the things

00:43:52.360 that you don't need to do and then i got into that and then realized that actually a lot of this stuff

00:43:57.480 is is mandated from from statute from government so it is just it's fundamentally incapable of being

00:44:05.240 a efficient organization because they're trying to do yeah they're trying yeah the government could

00:44:11.560 change and that's where he should be focused he should be focused on what we're going to do is

00:44:15.800 we're going to shrink the scope of government down to the point where it can actually do a handful of

00:44:20.520 things quite well and then just ditch all of the rest and get into this mindset of actually it's not the

00:44:28.200 government's job to do everything well it's it's been designed in such a way as it keeps you on the rails

00:44:33.800 doesn't it and it incentivizes a specific agenda by the person that's left their fingerprints on it

00:44:40.600 the most which is sort of new labor yeah really yeah and so it just becomes an enterprise in in

00:44:47.240 pushing that ideology i'll also share this um because you've seen all those tweets on so all you

00:44:52.920 know messages on social media where where leftists have a hard have a go at forage because he doesn't

00:44:58.600 turn up to parliament actually yeah he turns up like a third of the time and i've always dismissed

00:45:02.920 that because like oh yeah but his real job is to try and get to be prime minister but if he's going

00:45:08.600 to start having a go at my bloody work from home then i'm going to start having a go at him for not

00:45:13.000 turning up to bloody parliament yeah i think turning up to parliament is more important than a person

00:45:18.200 working from home you know yes if if that office is to mean anything you know being a parliamentarian

00:45:24.680 surely you should take it seriously and not just be there a third of the time if if i had a job and

00:45:29.960 only showed up a third of the time i would get fired i mean i can make an argument for work from

00:45:34.680 working in the office which is and and you're and you'll know this as well um when you are doing a

00:45:42.040 you know quite a complex thing it's one thing just doing the job but actually some of your best

00:45:46.680 insight comes from the little interactions you have with the more senior guys or even more so

00:45:51.400 when you go down the pub with them after work and they and they tell you about i don't know in my

00:45:56.040 case it was deals they'd done or something like that you you actually learn a lot more from those

00:46:00.920 kind of little interactions that you wouldn't have with a work from home situation so i i am alive to

00:46:05.560 it but but ultimately it has to come down to what is right for each individual firm it totally depends

00:46:11.160 what your job is yes it absolutely i mean my overall my overall take on it having done both

00:46:18.120 is that there are pros and cons of both it was way better to work from home for most reasons they

00:46:24.120 were you presumably already knew what you were doing when you got when you started doing that yeah

00:46:28.200 yeah yeah right there are pros and cons of both but the the pros of working from home massively outweighed

00:46:35.560 the cons i thought but it would it totally depends what your job is doesn't it what it so but yeah

00:46:43.880 it's funny it's a bit rich i was going to say it when we was watching the clip right at the beginning

00:46:46.840 where nigel's talking on stage i was going to say well isn't he known for not turning up to parliament

00:46:52.680 loads so yeah it's a bit rich for him to and he was filming that on a monday afternoon when parliament

00:46:58.120 was in sessions there's that as well i mean of all the things you're quite right i think to point out

00:47:02.200 out of everything somebody like farage or any leader of any party it's up it's kind of up to

00:47:07.640 them isn't it to pick and choose what they highlight and what they don't on on any given day

00:47:12.840 you know like he's picking that no it should be migration things like really is that i think it

00:47:18.360 speaks of a lack of inspiration if that's what he's going to and it's also just appealing to

00:47:24.280 boomer voters that would already vote for him already there's a lot of young people who he's

00:47:29.400 disillusioned who as you rightfully pointed out it's nick 30 exactly i mean that those are the

00:47:35.480 those i mean the the the older boomers they're either going to vote for him they're either they're

00:47:38.840 either stuck in tory land or they've already come over it's it's this guy who you know is actually

00:47:45.640 working from he i don't i don't see the point of pissing off nick what's the benefit that he's getting

00:47:52.760 out of this he should focus on the re-migration thing just focus on that no it's impossible though

00:47:57.960 isn't it don't you remember yeah it's impossible yeah yeah same yeah so um yeah not impressed with

00:48:05.800 that um i stuck in because it was relevant uh the the late great scott adams had a piece on that so i

00:48:14.440 thought i'd share that give you a second to digest that um and and also um connor had quite a good

00:48:23.240 tweet on it which which his tweets quite long but he had quite a good uh take on it there um i mean

00:48:31.240 i mean he some of the people came back on connor saying yeah but the reason why working in an office

00:48:35.560 is good is because lots of people meet their partner in the office true not the best uh career

00:48:41.160 move dating where you work necessarily well the the follow-on from that is yeah that's been

00:48:47.400 comprehensively destroyed over the last 10 years as well now what has sorry what um dating at work

00:48:52.760 because let's say you you say hello to a woman at work and she doesn't find you attractive then the

00:48:57.560 next thing you know you're in front of hr so risky game yeah this is the thing if we could have the

00:49:04.600 office culture of 1994 back when the last time raj was was working in an office yeah fine but we don't

00:49:11.960 have that we can't afford to live in well i can but you know people people in startup starting their

00:49:18.200 career they can't afford to bloody live in central london the office environment has changed um and i

00:49:25.960 don't see why this is the business of the government at all so yeah not impressed raj fair point yeah right

00:49:31.160 let's see what the what the um ranters say um so danny aaa says um on working remote i've been remote

00:49:44.120 for the last nine years uh incredibly based for the last eight i i think we found the issue

00:49:51.960 working from home makes you more politically you know aware i don't know you got more time to follow

00:49:58.760 politics you're not commuting uh what have we got um i think that might be single stone says the only

00:50:04.760 kind of working from home that should be uh farming on your land uh the only way your boss should be in

00:50:11.000 your home when he's chained up in your basement well whatever you get up to sir um change an idea says

00:50:17.640 um home working saves me eight hours and 80 pounds a week which i can spend um with my kids simply not

00:50:24.760 voting for a party that wants to take that um away yeah point it's a very good point it's it's just

00:50:30.840 needless picking this silly battle just because there's one of those i think what makes people vote

00:50:37.080 a certain way is sometimes it's sort of a big meta point like re-migration like the vision of what

00:50:45.080 britain should be a lot of people vote on will this be better or worse for my life yes and that is one of

00:50:52.920 the things where a lot of people are i'm working from home i love it it's much better than working

00:50:56.280 in from the office you want to take that away from me i like about my job all right we'll be thinking

00:51:00.840 yeah yeah yeah just like that person said there saves me money and hours and hours of my life

00:51:07.000 so so i'm not going to vote for it because faraj saying this it's like the single most thing that

00:51:13.480 he could suggest that would reduce the quality of life of most working people like unless he said you get

00:51:20.440 like mandatory um corporal punishment um if you're an employee or something yes that's the only way

00:51:27.640 it could be worse really i mean i would still take that over the tax late taxation level oh yeah that's

00:51:31.960 a choice not not even close but yeah point this point this stupid battle for what are you thinking

00:51:39.560 so a lot of people have been talking about whether epstein is still alive and of course people have

00:51:44.120 been talking about that um for for as long as it's been a point of speculation and of course the

00:51:51.160 recent emails have added more fuel to this fire and i wanted to have a look at the evidence um in an

00:51:58.920 even-handed way because personally i'm not entirely convinced i don't think there's a smoking gun or

00:52:05.000 anything definitive but i can see the case people are making and i think that um there is an incentive as

00:52:11.960 well to keep him alive because of course if he was running this extortion racket with some of the

00:52:18.360 most important people that's some very valuable information there and say the us government wants

00:52:24.120 to know that information and they want to know that he's giving it over truthfully whether he might want

00:52:29.720 to come to a deal in which he says well i would like to be free i don't want to be in prison for the

00:52:36.120 rest of my life and i'll give you the information and then maybe they can say oh well the public

00:52:41.400 won't like that so you know let's you know state something though it's a little bit conspiratorial

00:52:46.840 um however um that brings us quite nicely to the nature of uh his supposed last days

00:52:56.600 where there was a post on 4chan um in 2019 of course when epstein was in prison saying not saying

00:53:05.320 anything after this please do not uh dox me but last night after quarter past four in the morning

00:53:11.640 i think that is uh count they took him uh medical in a wheelchair front cuffed but not with one triage

00:53:18.840 nurse says they spoke to him uh next thing we know a trip van shows up we do not um do releases on

00:53:25.240 weekends unless judge orders it next thing we know he's put in a single man cell and uh unalives himself

00:53:31.480 for the sake of youtube i know it's annoying that i have to say that here's the thing the trip van did

00:53:36.840 not sign in we did not um record the plate number and a guy in a green dress military outfit was in

00:53:43.640 the back of the van according to the tower guy who let him through the gate you guys i'm shaking right

00:53:49.160 now but i think they just switched him out is this the post that was published just before the news

00:53:54.440 came out so it's credible because it came out just before the news of epstein yeah it is contemporary

00:54:00.280 to the time and you'd think okay this is just a post on 4chan people post all sorts of things i'm just

00:54:07.240 gonna say that um however um now we have documents verifying this person um it was this guy um roberto

00:54:18.680 doxxed him yeah he specifically asked you not to i mean it was the government that did it but you

00:54:25.000 know it's for a higher purpose here um yeah sorry for for showing your name but it's just to prove

00:54:31.480 that you are a real person so he was actually a prison guard yeah and they took him aside and spoke

00:54:37.400 to him because of his post specifically they mentioned his 4chan post and so it came to their attention

00:54:43.240 which is interesting in and of itself because you know why should the government really care

00:54:48.760 what a prison guard is saying even if he's saying this and that there's funny business going on

00:54:54.760 you know from the perspective of the people who believe he's still alive um like this person

00:54:59.720 for example this seems to be um pretty good evidence well i'm now convinced

00:55:05.160 no seriously no i think i think it's good enough already yes okay well we've only just got started

00:55:14.280 all right we'll carry on but i mean it could just be that i'm skeptical but for the record it could also

00:55:20.040 be um the case of he's you know a very high profile person and they're doing things slightly

00:55:27.400 differently there's government and intelligence implications they're doing things differently

00:55:31.800 there could be an explanation here but this guy was a prison guard and he posted that before the

00:55:38.520 news of the epstein thing broke i mean it's just it wouldn't make any sense plus these people they

00:55:43.400 never kill their own so i'm inclined to believe that this guy's on the money at the very least this is

00:55:51.560 enough to make me think there's some funny business going on um what the nature of that funny business

00:55:56.680 is whether it's replacing him in his cell um we're not too sure yet well a couple of things i'll just

00:56:03.880 say real quick is you made the argument or the logic that it's better for certain people that are

00:56:11.480 implicated if epstein is alive i would argue the exact opposite as in it's better for the government

00:56:17.800 um yeah for for yeah i get it again i'd say the exact opposite as in there's lots of people that

00:56:23.320 want him dead because of releasing information his mouth is shut for all time i mean that's another

00:56:29.160 angle entirely that epstein was killed as well well yeah see that's what i think i'll let you make the

00:56:34.760 argument and maybe i'll change my mind in the next 15 20 minutes but i feel like uh he is dead

00:56:41.880 but it wasn't suicide that's like he was he was silenced uh but you know but who knows i'm not ruling out

00:56:50.920 a hundred percent that he was switched out uh because i don't know i just it just seems to me

00:56:58.120 highly unlikely that that has occurred as well it's quite elaborate isn't it to switch him out and now

00:57:04.200 he's somewhere else in the world i'll let you continue but he's still living somewhere else in

00:57:08.440 the world i guess that's that's uh that just seems not again not that it's not possible

00:57:14.360 and i wouldn't rule it out 100 but it just seems unlikely right that's what you often have to say

00:57:21.480 when you're when you're looking at history for example trying to trying to figure out what what

00:57:26.360 actually happened at some point long ago when there's very few sources you end up having to

00:57:32.360 make a decision about what's more or less likely it just seems quite elaborate but anyway i'll let you go

00:57:39.720 on yeah well my actual opinion is that i don't really know um there's there's enough we've got

00:57:44.360 to say there are enough things you know enough questions about this that i don't think you should

00:57:49.560 take the official narrative at face value and there's also incentives yeah that misrepresent it

00:57:54.360 however um the truth is we don't know for certain whether he was killed whether he um was replaced or

00:58:02.360 whether it was exactly as the authority said i mean there was no possibility it's the last one

00:58:09.400 well i know that for absolute certain allow me to further reinforce that because there is good

00:58:14.600 reason not to trust the official narrative um i'm gonna have to read this from the other screen so

00:58:19.000 sorry if i'm looking away um due to the larger news media presence outside the mcc a male ocme

00:58:26.360 official called and said he would be arriving at the loading dock with a black vehicle in order to

00:58:30.920 thwart the media blank blank and blank used boxes and sheets to create what appeared to be a human

00:58:37.640 body which was put into the white ocme vehicle which the press followed allowing the black vehicle

00:58:43.800 to depart unnoticed with epstein's body well i haven't seen this before but what was the credence

00:58:49.320 of of this document i mean who's this from so this is someone talking about the removal of the the

00:58:55.320 alleged body from the prison and they're saying that they they created a fake body to distract the

00:59:02.120 press so at the top it says interview of so so this is this is presumably the fbi interviewing

00:59:07.080 somebody who worked at the prison um not necessarily worked at the prison we don't necessarily know

00:59:12.440 paramedic yeah it could be any number of people but they're talking about um faking the body this this

00:59:19.000 much is true um so that the press and other people would follow that and then they can slink away

00:59:27.560 quietly which you'd think that well it's not the most ideal thing to have the press following you

00:59:34.920 but i don't think it's going to impede that much if it's a person driving a dead body you know is what's

00:59:42.760 the emergency what does it matter if the press get a photo of an actual body and i can't put my well

00:59:49.400 it's not like he's on display like um you know they're parading him around he's going to be in a

00:59:54.200 it'll be oh yeah if if they danced him through new york weekend at bernie style i mean that would be a

01:00:00.920 bit a bit improper but wheeling somebody out on the press getting a photo of it i don't see the issue

01:00:06.440 with that one is it says medical chief examiner is it some type of a coroner or coroner adjacent type

01:00:12.840 person or body but pardon me there is a picture isn't there we're gonna get to that um in fact

01:00:21.880 that's the next thing and uh yeah there have been people pointing out the picture this is one of the

01:00:27.400 pictures and that's uh the the nose from the picture and they they show that epstein's nose looks very

01:00:34.200 different from this and i'm not sure you know i'm i'm not a coroner so i don't know whether your nose

01:00:40.440 changes after you die or the method of death affects how your nose is but it looks different

01:00:46.360 enough it looks like a different nose that yeah it doesn't look like him really the guy a guy on the

01:00:53.880 gurney is some russian or kazakh or something that just happens to be a looky likey and he got black bagged

01:01:02.600 flown out whacked put on the gurney wheeled out epstein's alive he's in a certain country

01:01:12.280 what are you going to say i mean it's possible isn't it i'm not ruling it out as completely

01:01:17.880 impossible and that it's overwhelmingly and that that definitely didn't happen i'm not going to say

01:01:22.360 that i'm not going to argue that right it just and then that is odd that that nose doesn't seem to be

01:01:28.760 the same nose that is odd that is an anomaly i would say but still does it still i don't know

01:01:39.160 you have to remember both i don't know it could be that that picture is been shopped in some way i

01:01:45.720 don't know ultimately the argument you're making though is what is the most likely outcome yeah

01:01:53.640 step back from that how likely is it that the world is run by a satanic pedo cult that murders

01:02:01.400 kids for adrenochrome and um uses their influence network to profiteer at the expense of the whatever

01:02:10.520 they call us um from that framework the whole simply solution thing looks a bit different

01:02:20.120 there's nothing too audacious and insane that they wouldn't do i yep and what i'm saying is what

01:02:26.200 they are what what that the way that they structured it was so audacious and so it's insane but this is

01:02:32.440 like little league yeah i get that insane yeah completely get that and agree with it so

01:02:40.600 there's another question about his his death and a statement announcing his death emerged from the

01:02:46.600 files but it was dated a day before he allegedly took his own life in his cell which is interesting

01:02:53.720 and the mail reports here the document issued by the united states attorney's office for the southern

01:02:59.000 district of new york and dated friday the 9th of august 2019 i'm reading that the english way but

01:03:05.080 that's not how it's written states that epstein had already been found unresponsive and pronounced dead

01:03:10.120 but prison records and official accounts show epstein was not discovered unresponsive until the

01:03:14.600 morning of um the 10th of august 2019 when a corrections officer delivered breakfast and found

01:03:20.440 him in his cell at the metropolitan correction center in manhattan and thank you samson i was

01:03:26.520 just about to go on to that um the official u.s account from a u.s official is that it was just a

01:03:34.360 typo which i actually believe that one yeah i can believe that yeah i mean a typo is yeah

01:03:39.720 um and so it's difficult to really dispute that um but then of course that depends on whether you

01:03:47.080 trust the u.s government um but it is one of the things that people are talking about and it's one

01:03:52.840 thing that people are pointing to but an entirely different thing people are pointing to

01:03:56.520 is his um gaming account and here's a post from the sixth of february talking about how he played

01:04:05.400 rocket league or his account uh less than three days ago because people found out his his name um

01:04:14.440 through the email leaks on uh online and they looked up the one where you got the little cars

01:04:21.640 yeah i don't know what rocket league is i don't little cars and you play football the rocket league

01:04:28.440 is not important that's the fact that um it's the fact that his account is active um and there are

01:04:34.920 multiple different things that could be the case here it could be yeah that um he shares his account

01:04:41.800 with some people that we don't know it's not impossible um although usually it's not the case

01:04:48.200 that you share a gaming account because you can normally purchase stuff although i'm not sure

01:04:53.400 what this is this doesn't necessarily look like steam to me um which i'm familiar with and so

01:04:59.800 that could be the case that he shares his account although you can purchase things with money and so

01:05:03.560 it's not customary hang on on share it look at his logo he's got a country of origin flag is is that

01:05:10.440 where he last logged on from or is that something that you pick i think that's something you would add to

01:05:14.360 your profile right um but what obviously isn't an american flag given that he lived in america

01:05:20.440 what it could also be is that his account of the same name was taken down and someone saw the name

01:05:27.160 and thought it would be funny uh and well usually these things tell you when you signed up that is

01:05:33.640 true so if it's if it's a continuous account it seems to be a continuous account right to my um

01:05:41.960 you know here um people were saying it was live right now and uh epic games confirmed that um the fortnite

01:05:49.240 account claiming to be his is unrelated and an existing player changed their username but that is just

01:05:56.120 for fortnite that's a different game to rocket league if you're not familiar and and so they're suggesting

01:06:03.480 i just feel like that for me that's very very flimsy evidence that jeffrey epstein is still alive i know

01:06:09.080 it could be any number of things it could be someone else it could be if it's a screen trolling it's

01:06:14.200 just a screenshot so it could be entirely fabricated it could be fabricated yeah um although it was

01:06:20.200 available for people to see online so okay if it was fabricated then it okay it would also have to

01:06:26.680 be fabricated on the actual web just doesn't mean that jeffrey epstein himself who was born in

01:06:31.080 coney i agree that that man is playing rocket league now this is doesn't mean that doesn't

01:06:36.440 i've got to say your first link was your most convincing i'm going backwards now it's all right

01:06:41.800 i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna loop back around again soon all right we're gonna need the good

01:06:45.240 stuff soon mm-hmm and one other thing is that this account that he um had was inactive during the time

01:06:52.680 that we know he was in custody and arrested and only after he died did its activity pick up again

01:06:57.960 which now that one is better that that's what's that what is this an account of um gaming again

01:07:04.440 gaming again yeah this is fortnight i think that's it is yeah what's a man of his age doing playing

01:07:09.080 fortnight surely not you'd be surprised games and i'm not that far away from 50 okay how old is he

01:07:16.920 like 60 something well i don't think fortnight you are allowed to do fun things when you get old

01:07:24.360 but yeah i know it just again it just doesn't seem that likely well it's it just seems unlikely i feel

01:07:30.840 like he should have stuck to this to be honest we we do know he played games because he talked about

01:07:35.480 it as well i mean he must run out of mexican slave girls at some point i mean not that i'm saying

01:07:40.360 i i think jeffrey epstein never played games i'm not saying that this is probably saying that he's

01:07:46.120 into fortnight this is his least inexcusable extracurricular activity to be honest i feel like

01:07:52.440 if he lent into this if he did more of that that would be better yeah he would have avoided a lot

01:07:57.000 of trouble if he just stuck to fortnight to be honest just play video games everyone otherwise you

01:08:02.680 become jeffrey epstein um and after there was lots of backlash the account or backlash but lots of

01:08:10.120 attention the account went private which if it was someone trolling why would they do that of course

01:08:16.360 they could unless it's a next level trolling it could be yes it could just be a high level troll

01:08:20.600 which you know they've already taken epstein's name it's possible um and if so you know

01:08:28.360 although it's a serious thing i see the humor in it i suppose um but anyway let's move on to

01:08:36.440 something else which is people spotting him and seeing him there's the nose thing again coming

01:08:42.200 up lots of people talk about that so another thing is um a few quite a few years ago now um but after

01:08:48.600 he allegedly died um someone threw a drone over his island and took this and people think that that

01:08:56.760 is jeffrey epstein but that could just be any old guy to be honest is it's not clear enough to be

01:09:04.440 able to tell really people were saying this was epstein maybe it is although i would be surprised

01:09:10.520 like it's like um someone goes into hiding and then goes to the place they're most associated with

01:09:17.640 i feel like if you're running uh an international extortion racket you probably would have a bit more

01:09:23.640 sense than to go back to the place where people he would have been bundled onto a you know a a cargo

01:09:30.280 jet or something and smuggled out because even in a scenario where you know he's made good with the

01:09:35.080 intelligence agencies there are still scorned elites that he's extorted that would want to get back at

01:09:41.320 him that guy could be the guy i mentioned earlier the slavic lookalike what but the one that was on the

01:09:49.480 the the gurney yeah they they said taken after the fact oh god how many lookalikes are this lined up

01:09:57.080 2020 i mean i don't it's just it's just a white guy from above isn't it yeah the double that was on

01:10:05.320 that gurney wasn't even dead no this would have now this would have to be another double they're

01:10:10.600 going to kill him again that does look a bit like jeffrey epstein but it could be anyone and

01:10:15.080 the thing i'm saying is if you look a bit like jeffrey epstein you know get a decent help you know

01:10:20.120 insurance policy in place and um people were looking at other photos as well um this was the

01:10:27.640 one that was really doing the rounds um which you know he's at least allegedly does he have the right

01:10:35.800 disguise i don't know uh it looks less hooked than the the one we saw before why has he got two mossad

01:10:46.280 agents or whatever they are two people with earpieces like security i don't know um but supposedly this

01:10:53.000 was uh taken in israel um in israel was apparently however there is a version of the photo that is

01:11:02.760 zoomed out which has the google gemini uh logo in um is is in higher quality as you can see so

01:11:11.960 um and also has this up here um which i i've been told by people who speak hebrew that this is just

01:11:20.200 gibberish um and is not actually language which uh with the gemini the fact that it's zoomed out

01:11:27.560 they're also you know they've got basically the same legs and shoes although that if they're agents

01:11:32.280 maybe that's not that unheard of so it's an ai generated it seems like it yeah uh and i think

01:11:38.360 that were were i i never thought i'd say this sentence but were i jeffrey epstein i don't think

01:11:45.080 uh if i faked my own death i'd just be walking around israel um a place where presumably everyone

01:11:51.480 would recognize you um that's what the bids for yeah you get hassled for too many autographs no um

01:11:56.920 um i'm joking of course um too many high fives but i didn't mean that but the point being here that

01:12:07.960 even if this is a real photo which it doesn't appear to be um because this exists although you could

01:12:14.760 say you know they generated a zoomed out version to discredit the original but let's be honest i don't

01:12:20.760 think that it would be a wise thing if you fake your own death to just walk around a busy you know

01:12:26.440 city street where people will recognize you i obviously can't read hebrew but if those signs

01:12:31.960 are just gibberish for me that would be it that was definitely ai generated then but you you can feed

01:12:38.440 a smaller image into ai and then say expand the frame around this and make it look like it's in

01:12:45.480 tel aviv or something so so it it all it tells us is you don't know because you you could easily

01:12:52.760 edit an existing image this is one of the problems with ai existing now is that yes you could even have

01:12:58.360 you know photo evidence of something that's real and everyone wouldn't believe it anyway although in

01:13:05.000 my opinion i'm not convinced by this and there's another one here which is even less convincing that's

01:13:11.240 just a guy with a beard i should say anyone that looks vaguely like epstein from a certain angle

01:13:17.640 could be epstein yeah there's probably some poor collateral here of just some guy with a beard who's

01:13:23.960 old um being photographed and it's being shared around there was that tweet that went around it

01:13:29.560 goes around every so often but there's a guy sitting in a german restaurant who is the spitting image of

01:13:34.600 hitler and he did i can't remember did he do the tash or not you if you're on twitter a lot you must

01:13:41.640 have seen it i don't think i have actually i would like to i find that sort of thing interesting yeah

01:13:47.080 and it's just it's just modern day he's just sat there and he just happens to look exactly like him

01:13:52.120 i mean it's not that unheard of there are enough people in the world that there are gonna be people

01:13:55.560 that look like you well it's in the 2020s and he looks like a 40-something adolf hitler well yes okay

01:14:03.160 he hasn't got a uniform on yeah he's just dressed normally but but it's it's it's it's him okay yeah

01:14:11.400 he hasn't aged today in 80 years he's got younger if anything yeah that's another government conspiracy

01:14:17.320 for you we're not getting into now i'm joking um and then the final thing i wanted to look at was

01:14:22.520 just this uh this final photo that was doing the rounds which i don't really think like new image

01:14:31.160 leaked of jeffrey epstein things with ai yeah i i just you just can't you just can't tell anymore

01:14:37.240 because ai has got rid of the stupid thing where it gives you eight fingers or whatever it is and

01:14:42.120 it's good enough now that you just can't bloody tell also why would he go to the trouble of you

01:14:46.280 know growing out a beard and what have you and then wear the the jacket that he's notorious for

01:14:50.920 wearing the one that nick fuentes has got in a merch store like why would that be done so the two

01:14:57.560 the two convincing things is the fortnight thing and the very first thing the prison guard saying oh

01:15:05.560 and the interview with the guy who worked at the prison he said you know doing dodgy stuff that's

01:15:09.320 convincing the image stuff you just can't trust anymore yeah and i think that there's i think there's

01:15:16.200 enough there for to make speculation reasonable yes but as i said before there's no real smoking gun

01:15:24.520 there are some additional things um that i need to mention for the sake of um being comprehensive

01:15:31.080 um there is still some private security on his island people have been pointing to this

01:15:37.400 um yeah and this is a verifiable thing i've seen lots of videos of people going to his island and

01:15:42.920 seeing the private security enough to the point where i think yeah there's there's no way that people

01:15:47.880 are making this up um but then that could just be his estate um keeping security there because

01:15:55.400 understandably it's epstein's island yes you probably want some security there to protect your assets

01:16:01.320 um it could be um the the us government has hired some private security to keep an eye on it

01:16:09.160 um because it's outside of their jurisdiction i don't know who inherits the island well that's an

01:16:14.920 interesting thing because um after he died his estate transferred 12 million dollars to um southern

01:16:24.360 country bank which was a secret bank account which no one knew about until he died which is interesting

01:16:30.920 his estate was still doing things after he died like that i mean that could have so going back to your

01:16:37.240 photo of him in 2020 that's why he went back to the island and when the drone caught him because he was

01:16:43.000 retrieving the the swiss bank or the southern bank whatever details or dongle thing transferred the

01:16:50.840 money then he's off to tel aviv or wherever but 12 million then that's not enough to live off of is

01:16:57.160 it really for him his lifestyle i mean i'd take 12 million by the way um did he have any kids officially

01:17:03.800 i hope not um i don't think so as far as i'm aware i mean presumably in a few years there'll be a

01:17:09.800 small army of vietnamese and mexican half mexican children coming forward to say yeah the island's

01:17:16.680 mine yeah i wouldn't want to be one of the people trying to to squabble for that but i don't think

01:17:22.280 the private security is necessarily like a definitive thing because also the last place it would be

01:17:28.040 sensible to go if he were alive would be his own island that everyone knows about and you can find it

01:17:34.600 on a map and you can travel there relatively easily if loads of like youtubers and what have you have

01:17:40.760 gone to the island and actually got onto it then i don't think it's going to be difficult because i

01:17:46.040 don't think these people are masters of espionage so yeah i don't think that that's um particularly

01:17:54.680 convincing another thing that people point to is that he allegedly bought a dental chair shortly before

01:17:59.800 he died and people are saying well why would you do that unless you want some sort of reconstruction

01:18:05.720 of your of your dental um record or your face or what have you um why would you be buying that that

01:18:14.040 doesn't make any sense but then you know can we verify that can we verify any of this really i mean

01:18:21.800 i agree with them that all the image stuff because of ai generating images can't really trust any of it

01:18:27.000 okay the the computer gaming uh stuff like the screenshots of that doesn't really mean anything

01:18:35.320 to me it's certainly worthy but it's not necessarily uh significant enough it's certainly no smoking the

01:18:40.840 bit at the beginning with the if that was verified that it was from that actual guard that's very very

01:18:46.680 interesting to me and the nose of the supposedly dead body that's very very interesting to me but i mean

01:18:52.920 i don't know much about dead bodies weird things to say but maybe when you die in a specific way

01:18:59.240 you know your your face becomes more taut or and and changes the nature of your nose it's possible i

01:19:05.800 don't know i can buy absolutely do believe that he didn't kill himself i do think that he's he's dead

01:19:14.120 now though i mean unless i don't know we live in like sort of a post-truth world don't we that's

01:19:21.240 the old thing the old cliche that's the thing that it is difficult to know exactly what's real and what

01:19:26.360 isn't it's part of the reason i've talked about this is just approaching these questions with a

01:19:30.840 critical mind and trying to to figure out what is most likely and of course i i sort of agree with you

01:19:38.680 bow in the sense of it does seem strange that he would take his own life because as we know

01:19:45.080 rich people prison is not the same as poor people prison and if you've seen goodfellas i imagine he

01:19:51.160 would sort of get that treatment of you know he gets to live the high life um you know his lane

01:19:57.400 maxwell seems to be having a pretty cushy time of it i know there's footage of her in her cell but she

01:20:02.360 gets visitations and all sorts of privileges that you don't you wouldn't really think she would

01:20:07.480 deserve if we have any funeral directors in the comments can you let us know if when people die

01:20:13.480 their nose and ears start to change slightly i mean i know your nose continues to nose and ears continue

01:20:20.680 to grow um as the older you get um but i don't know whether after you die it changes its shape it

01:20:27.800 wouldn't it wouldn't go like that no it wouldn't why would it i don't know yeah but anyway um i've done

01:20:34.920 my best to present all of this as even-handedly as i can obviously make up your own mind i'm not

01:20:39.720 necessarily saying um it is this or it is that i just found it interesting that people were talking

01:20:46.120 about it and i wanted to present it in as fair a way as possible because the mainstream media would

01:20:50.840 not do that and uh it's some food for thought and that is all

01:20:57.320 excellent right let's see what people say

01:21:01.400 um connor smug mug says um tyler oliviera um the india festival guy went to epstein's island security

01:21:10.360 chased him off and he was supposedly followed since um i did actually see that video um and yeah the the

01:21:17.000 private security did just look like paid private security don't know whether it's actually followed

01:21:22.120 since that sounds untrue but you never know um not just a string says maybe the nose was broken

01:21:31.960 accidentally in his attempt to allegedly end himself uh busted brian says bo the files have literally

01:21:41.240 revealed big e was very into um games and even had an active hand in starting the predatory

01:21:49.880 micro transactions and loot boxes craze of the gaming industry oh god i hate him now okay yeah

01:21:55.960 worst thing he's ever done that is now i'm joking if that's all true fair enough fair enough i stand

01:22:01.000 corrected yeah we we do know that he liked his video games and also you know if i were to fate my

01:22:06.040 death i would miss my steam account quite a lot yes and all the progress i've made i'd be very

01:22:10.360 hesitant to leave it behind samson can we have maggie please

01:22:16.520 i'm assuming that's a video margaret thatcher is no longer the worst british prime minister i can

01:22:23.080 think of that dishonor now goes to keir stammer who has done everything he can to destroy britain

01:22:30.120 both economically and culturally whilst thatcher did cause high unemployment she did fix the economy and

01:22:37.720 halted inflation plus she had an infection for the country she was leading whilst keir starmer does

01:22:43.560 not keir starmer and i refuse to call him sir keir starmer has done everything he can to destroy the

01:22:49.960 country of britain i actually quite like maggie i certainly wouldn't put her second she was far from

01:22:56.040 the worst prime minister i don't even think every single prime minister since her has been worse for

01:23:00.680 start well i i put boris as worse than starmer because boris did the boris wave i put blair as

01:23:08.280 the worst and boris yeah yeah yeah i like that difficult to argue with really yeah yeah i mean when

01:23:13.480 when was the last good prime minister really as i was thinking about this the other day maybe maggie

01:23:18.600 you reckon there are some pretty big things she did i hated him at the time but looking back he was

01:23:26.760 bland enough that david cameron david cameron david cameron i'm just saying he he was awful awful at

01:23:35.560 the time but when you compare him to everybody else suddenly he starts looking good that's what i'm

01:23:41.400 saying that's what you mean the the robot thing so i'd have to go back to pit the elder fair enough

01:23:47.800 i was my all-time fave i feel like i'd have to go back to the 19th century at least yeah the iron duke

01:23:53.480 the more that is revealed about our post-modern age whether epstein abortion or other atrocities

01:24:01.480 dressed up as civil rights the more it appears that reality is what fiction dismisses as too

01:24:07.400 far-fetched a lot has happened in the first month of 2026 so i wonder if we'll get a legit alien

01:24:13.480 invasion by the end of the year that's the only square i need for a bingo very good point i'm not

01:24:19.720 quite sure about the christmas jumper at this time of year but um i suppose maybe you're getting

01:24:24.680 prepared for next year um i do still have some uh rumble rants here that i need to read once we've

01:24:31.720 done the video comments all right okay um let's do this one i've been seeing a lot of people saying

01:24:35.720 that you can't just tar entire communities with the same brush over the grooming gangs and

01:24:51.880 this is technically true i mean not everyone took part but the left already has a term for this it's

01:24:57.160 called being a beneficiary so the idea is that just because not every member of the community took part

01:25:02.680 does not mean they didn't all benefit from the actions of these curious institutions

01:25:07.560 basically you know suppressing the ability of the white population's ability to form families and

01:25:12.520 essentially traumatizing them out of abilities to get into higher education and whatnot which means the

01:25:17.880 pakistanis can soak up all the economic opportunities those people never had i don't even think it's

01:25:23.640 painting everyone with the same brush when it comes to the so-called grooming gangs because

01:25:28.280 even the women who didn't take part were complicit and still shared the same cultural attitudes that

01:25:35.320 made it possible for the men to do it in the first place and the the notion that um you would

01:25:41.720 systematically groom underage children and then your partners are not only fine with it but cover for

01:25:47.720 you and agree with your motivation to do it is so outside of the the scope of normal thinking in British

01:25:56.760 society as to be completely antithetical to how we would approach it like if there is a paedophile

01:26:04.840 who is british what normally happens is people vandalize their house and write pedo and nonce on it and

01:26:12.280 they're never ever again accepted by the community even by their own family members even by their own

01:26:18.680 you know wife and children they make them us ambassador and you know standards are changed allegedly yeah

01:26:25.240 um got some comments um do you do you want to read some of your comments or should i go ahead

01:26:33.080 just go ahead uh sophie live says well considering starmer already was a blood-sucking undead zombie

01:26:39.240 warlock of course he won't just die it's a bit more tricky killing the undead that's what i was saying

01:26:44.280 you need headshots with these things to bring them down

01:26:48.200 um paul brown says did blair get rid of the death penalty for treason or was it mandelson behind it

01:26:53.960 yeah that's a fair point you say blair got rid of it but it could have been mandel said he was pushing for it

01:26:59.720 it was mandy's initiative all along yeah and and blair was just happened to be in office when that got signed off

01:27:05.160 so that that is a fair point um

01:27:09.480 justin b says i don't think they would actually force starmer out until the elections in manchester

01:27:15.320 uh they can blame any bad result on him yeah that's the problem if you if you come in as

01:27:19.800 labour leader this side of the by-election you're you're gonna have to own it yeah whereas if you do it

01:27:26.840 the day after you don't but i suppose the same logic could apply to the may elections

01:27:32.200 but you might as well let i mean it's only it's only a couple of weeks now for manchester you might

01:27:35.880 as well let him eat that and then and then come in lammy or millibandry if it was um

01:27:42.600 uh for my segment um kevin fox says uh no work from home should be only compulsory for snivel

01:27:50.600 serpents i like that very clever um for everyone else it should be a choice made by the workforce

01:27:56.360 and employers um does anyone side with faraj i would be very surprised i didn't see anyone defend him

01:28:07.000 it was just unequivocal even you read in the comments i read your comments in the document

01:28:13.480 that you're looking at now oh okay oh right but i i'm if if anyone saw the comment streaming past

01:28:19.400 i don't i don't know if anybody's offended that um yeah no across the board everybody is is not a

01:28:26.360 fan of that one um some of your comments sure i'll quickly read the rumble ones that we've received so

01:28:32.040 i don't leave anyone out um oh blimey there's quite a few um they'll they'll low though that's

01:28:39.000 okay i'll i'll read a couple um if epstein's still alive he'll be at obama's martha vineyard compound

01:28:44.840 with lord luke and uh look the uh lindenburg baby and madeline mccann um blimey that's an

01:28:54.200 elvis and bruce lee um he says you're a bunch of crackpot conspiracy theorists lots of it

01:29:02.680 inmates fashion straight razors out of toilet paper body odor and spit and then cut their own

01:29:07.800 folks with it repeatedly um i don't think it's that hard to come across a razor blade in a prison

01:29:15.400 enough prison shankings and things go on don't they that it does happen um

01:29:20.280 um epstein was switched out and wanted to celebrate his freedom with some fentanyl overdosed

01:29:26.840 i don't know about that um working in an office is working with equipment and data the data the

01:29:31.800 company owns which require multiple people with different skills but anxiety over what stocks

01:29:36.360 uh socks to wear shouldn't be used to not work yeah people do abuse it to be fair there's the sort

01:29:41.320 of like oh i've got bad mental health i can't come in to which i i would say well you know i want

01:29:47.560 to employ someone with good mental health can you not do that unless of course someone's had

01:29:51.160 like a a bereavement or something in which case you stop hiring people for jobs that they can

01:29:56.360 dos off on but if you're hiring correctly for jobs that actually need doing it will be immediately

01:30:00.760 obvious so why are you hiring people that you don't need yeah it's silly as well um the office

01:30:07.000 train pipeline spawns hordes of uh default leftists they're subject to hundreds of little micro leftisms

01:30:12.040 and immersed in a liberal corporate environment for most hours of the day which is very true which is why

01:30:17.240 i always hated it personally and i'll just read um two comments here um from my segment uh

01:30:25.720 fame squad of swindon says what's a man of his age doing playing fortnite the question answers

01:30:30.600 itself if you frame it better bow ask instead what's a man of epstein's reputation doing playing

01:30:35.640 a game famous for being popular with pre-teens and young teenagers yeah that's that's true

01:30:41.160 he's all there's also evidence he got banned from xbox live um in like 2013 which uh back in the day

01:30:48.760 i got suspended um for you know throwing abuse at people in call of duty lobbies but never banned

01:30:55.320 you've got to be pretty bad uh to to get banned um annie moss says dan your arguments on epstein cannot

01:31:03.640 be refuted who knows what happens uh happened after but the body which left jail was not him

01:31:10.440 blimey uh i mean there's there's lots of cause for speculation here but i should probably end it

01:31:15.320 there oh very good um any closing remarks sorry sorry any closing remarks from anybody um

01:31:23.400 um have a nice day all right hope you enjoyed oh yeah and tune into bow yeah watch bow 8am that's my

01:31:30.200 closing be there or be square yes do it bye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - February 10, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1351

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