The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1355
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 32 minutes
Words per Minute
163.9695
Summary
Rupert Lowe has launched Restore Britain as a major political party across the UK, and we're here to talk about it. We're joined by Firaz and Nate to discuss it all, including the media reaction to it, and the benefits of re-migration.
Transcript
00:00:00.000
Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 1355.
00:00:13.000
And today we're going to be talking about the major announcement from Friday
00:00:17.080
that Rupert Lowe has launched Restore Britain as a major political party across the nation.
00:00:22.760
I'm going to be talking about the media response to it,
00:00:25.960
and Firaz is going to be taking us through the various and many, many benefits of re-migration
00:00:34.860
Yes, there are some good things that could happen.
00:00:42.300
Yeah, and just a reminder to everybody who's subscribed to the website
00:00:45.420
that you are able to watch a live Realpolitik this afternoon at three o'clock.
00:00:52.360
Yes, we're going to be talking about the revolt of the provinces against Emperor Trump
00:01:00.780
They pretty much lost their minds and decided that they hate America now.
00:01:07.980
Well, tune into that if you've got a subscription to the website.
00:01:25.220
Rupert Lowe on Friday announced the Restore Britain as a national party.
00:01:34.240
Do you remember where you were when you first got the news?
00:02:07.420
And I thought we would just watch a little bit of it.
00:02:08.940
I'm going to sort of stop start it and talk about some bits and pieces of it.
00:02:27.700
This is kind of an important one to have this problem fixed for.
00:02:35.960
Yeah, I mean, there are multiple things that I would like some sound for.
00:02:59.880
Is trying to resolve this problem very quickly.
00:03:02.520
A phantom Samson has appeared behind the scenes as well to check everything.
00:03:09.620
Definitely not an important segment to have great technical things.
00:03:13.960
Clearly, we have little Tories in the wires trying to sabotage everything.
00:03:26.280
I think one of the key things about it was how thoroughly English it was.
00:03:32.620
And how the messaging of it, not MAGA messaging, very understated, very to the point.
00:03:41.820
Focusing on the actual issues and promising hardship as a way forward.
00:03:46.620
Which is really the only way for anything good to get done.
00:03:55.560
Let's give a general overview of this whilst the problem is being sorted.
00:03:59.980
And then perhaps we can talk about specifics if we can hear in the audience.
00:04:04.020
So Rupert chose to make the announcement on a farm, which visually and philosophically is
00:04:17.220
Because it speaks to the very heart of England, Britain as a whole.
00:04:22.400
And he's using it as an allegory for what has been robbed from the natives.
00:04:31.320
You know, on the farm, we don't think in election cycles.
00:04:37.040
And that is what has become so just out of the realms of possibility for politicians to consider.
00:04:46.380
It's I've got to think four years down the line, three years down the line.
00:04:56.540
I've got to think short term as opposed to actually thinking in philosophical terms,
00:05:01.280
which is what is good for the future of my children?
00:05:05.500
And how should I approach politics based on the fact that it's a generational game?
00:05:13.920
That was really the power of it as far as I'm concerned.
00:05:29.420
I have chosen to speak to you today from the farm because places like this represent what proper Britain is about.
00:05:38.900
Hard work, responsibility, effort, duty, stewardship.
00:05:49.260
On a farm, you don't think in election cycles or headlines or polling.
00:05:58.400
In what you leave behind to those who come after you.
00:06:01.620
So I'm going to stop that there and sort of, you know, we've already touched on this a little bit, but I want to hammer that home.
00:06:08.820
You know, this is a nativist party for the natives.
00:06:11.980
It's for, he's also made clear for those that, you know, actually are coming here on merit, wanting to integrate all those kind of things.
00:06:19.600
But specifically, it's a nativist party for the natives.
00:06:22.500
And it's about realizing that England is our inheritance.
00:06:26.380
And wanting to integrate into the native culture.
00:06:38.480
And the order of priorities is what is good for the natives.
00:06:44.180
And on that basis, other things will be assessed.
00:06:46.860
Rather than there's a universal principle that everybody is waiting to touch British soil to become British.
00:06:54.840
Yeah, but again, to me, what it spoke to me, and I wonder if it said the same thing to you, again, it's that this land is ours, it's mine, it's my inheritance, it's your inheritance, it's your kid's inheritance, right?
00:07:11.080
Oh, well, it's certainly not the reform confetti and fireworks and kind of MAGA-esque posturing that you get from the kind of promotional material that they put out.
00:07:25.820
Obviously, restore and the message that they're speaking so far is much closer to something that I agree with than what reform is doing.
00:07:35.480
And people say with reform they're doing it for electoral viability, they're doing it for this or that kind of three-dimensional chess reason, whereas I would actually just say that reform's messaging can kind of be taken on its face value.
00:07:47.860
And this is much more promising to me in the face of that.
00:07:53.980
That's why, here on the farm, I am now launching Restore Britain as a national political party.
00:08:00.960
I'm now going to dedicate my life to finding, organising, funding and providing hundreds of qualified candidates to present to the British people at the next general election.
00:08:12.820
This process has already started, with invitations being issued to patriots in aligned political parties, reform, the Conservatives, the SDP, Advance and more.
00:08:25.180
In local politics, we will work in partnership with localised political parties, such as Great Yarmouth First, that have the best interests of their residents at heart, combining our forces at the next general election.
00:08:39.520
The men and women standing for Restore in that election will not be politicians.
00:08:49.200
Well, let's head something off here that I've heard some people saying, as a criticism, more of those supporting Restore than of the parties that they're supporting,
00:09:01.660
which is that they say that people are very critical of reform for taking in Tory MPs and ex-Tory ministers, whereas Restore are not being criticised anywhere near the same level.
00:09:12.700
When Rupert says explicitly here that he's happy to take MPs and some people from parties like the Conservatives.
00:09:20.740
And I think there are a few differences here, which is one, reform are overtly taking, like, members of the previous governments, members of Boris Johnson's governments.
00:09:32.800
Yes, people who have a proven track record of the largest immigration wave, legal immigration wave, that this country has ever seen in its history.
00:09:42.900
And also draconian measures in terms of, no, we're going to pin you down and shove something in your arm.
00:09:47.900
I'm going to make you walk around with a passport to show that you've got this thing in your body as well.
00:09:56.080
You've been looking into some of the stuff that's been written about, some of the insider workings of the Tory party.
00:10:00.720
Because as well as that, it's not just necessarily, just because we dislike the Tory party does not necessarily mean that we believe that every single person who has ever been involved in the Tory party is automatically compromised and automatically a terrible person who isn't on our side.
00:10:16.720
It's more as well that the structure of the party and the way that it's been governed has a major effect in limiting who can get to the top and what policies can get pushed through.
00:10:26.140
It's a ludicrous position to say that all Tories, every single Tory ever in existence, are terrible.
00:10:34.260
It just so happens that, unfortunately, the Tories will only allow local people to be put forward for the electorate when they know they're about to fail.
00:10:45.780
And those are the good ones, generally speaking.
00:10:47.520
But there are some good ones that do get through.
00:10:49.100
More than that, there is a fundamental difference between Jenrick, who oversaw the Afghan plan to bring in people from a country where 99% support Sharia law, and that was documented by Pew,
00:11:01.560
versus somebody who was in the Tories, opposed certain things, supported certain things, stuck with a party, now is looking for a new home.
00:11:12.060
So these things are qualitatively different things, and the idea that you should approach this with zero nuance is not tenable.
00:11:22.860
And similarly, reform have shown themselves to behave in a similar manner to the way that the Tories did,
00:11:27.980
given that we know that reform were using hope-not-hate as a netting service for their own candidates.
00:11:37.740
Well, let's watch a little bit. It's quite long, actually. Let's watch a bit more of this.
00:11:40.720
I promise you that. They will not be failed ministers.
00:11:45.800
They will not be tainted by failures of the past.
00:11:48.160
They will be from business, from the military, from science, from medicine, from education, from industry,
00:11:55.860
representing real communities up and down the country.
00:12:01.340
So one of the things that made the Conservatives the natural party of government was the local association structure.
00:12:08.260
Where essentially, if you were successful in your local community and you were a representative of the fishermen,
00:12:16.700
you could then be elected as a representative because you reflected this exact idea.
00:12:23.340
That was the key strength of British democracy, that it was hyper-local in that the Conservatives would select from these communities people who these communities wanted.
00:12:33.160
And that meant that you constantly had to be in debate with the local associations to find a big tent compromise based on British traditions and British principles.
00:12:44.680
As opposed to you parachute people from anywhere to go to your safe seats and you insert them there, as was done with Rishi Sunak with Richmond, and then you decide to elevate them.
00:12:57.920
So if this is going to be the model, this is a return to a very British tradition and a very British way of doing things.
00:13:05.020
But it's not only that, it's also a smart model, right?
00:13:10.880
You know, rather than just hiring people that are a career politician.
00:13:15.080
That's the only model that can make democracy work and not make it retarded.
00:13:25.120
And we saw that through Mandelson, and we see that in other arenas.
00:13:30.720
So this is a huge difference here in that, okay, how are you going to fix British democracy the British way?
00:13:39.880
Every single one will be from well outside the existing political establishment.
00:13:45.400
And every single one will understand the difficult decisions that need to be taken.
00:13:52.840
I'm not going to tell you comforting lies about the condition of our country.
00:13:58.000
I have only ever been honest with the British people.
00:14:07.080
But for the first time in a very long time, voters will have a genuine alternative,
00:14:12.520
which is truthful with them about the scale of what now has to be done.
00:14:16.720
The first priority is to control who comes to our country.
00:14:20.040
And more importantly, who stays in our country.
00:14:24.280
Restore Britain will not just stop mass immigration.
00:14:51.020
One of the benefits of Restore having only been a movement slash policy think tank,
00:14:57.660
whatever you'd want to call them prior to them announcing themselves as a party,
00:15:00.640
is that they did take the time to start to formulate policy papers.
00:15:04.840
Like the remigration mass deportation paper that they released last year,
00:15:09.560
which I've spoken to some people about who are more knowledgeable about the British legal system
00:15:15.420
and legislation than I am, who said that while there were a few things that they weren't entirely sure on in there,
00:15:21.560
it was probably the most comprehensive piece of legislation that they've seen written up.
00:15:25.200
It's more comprehensive than anything reforms done.
00:15:31.500
You follow this process with the objective of tightening it up.
00:15:35.200
And we also know a lot of the people who, frankly, are behind a lot of Restore.
00:15:40.560
People like Charlie Downs, people like Harrison Pitt, and these are smart young guys with drive, ambition,
00:15:48.080
and they know what to aim for, and they have a good idea of how to aim for it.
00:15:54.460
Now, this isn't to say that these guys are going to be like Restore or Rupert or anybody is going to be protected
00:16:01.560
from any criticism in the future if they start to go back on this stuff,
00:16:05.180
if they start to pull back on, well, we never said we would actually deport people.
00:16:09.060
Oh, we never said that we wouldn't accept Nadine Doris into the party or anybody like this.
00:16:15.280
If they start to behave in that way, we will absolutely go for the throat.
00:16:20.000
But right now, everything that they're saying and everything that we know about everybody in the party,
00:16:24.340
how it's functioning, and the work that they've done over the past year, is looking pretty promising.
00:16:29.180
But it's also how everyone involved has been consistent.
00:16:35.300
So it would be very, very unusual for them to suddenly flip it.
00:16:42.040
Every single illegal migrant will be securely detained and then deported.
00:16:51.820
If you are in this country without our permission, you will be removed.
00:16:57.040
For the foreseeable future, far more people must leave Britain than arrive.
00:17:01.780
Just to clarify on that, that's not an extreme position.
00:17:28.920
Anyone saying that that is an extreme position, get your head checked.
00:17:37.520
It's like the same sort of set of rules that I apply to guests in my own home.
00:17:41.180
It's the same set of rules that apply near enough across the entire globe, aside from anywhere that is white.
00:17:54.920
The idea that you can just land in a foreign country and live on their expense makes zero sense.
00:18:08.180
You can't go to China and expect to live on the generosity of the Chinese.
00:18:17.700
Whilst actively saying, I hate you and I hate everything about you.
00:18:30.560
We'll make our communities safe again for women and children.
00:18:40.420
We're constantly told that the economy needs vast swathes of low-skilled migrants.
00:18:56.940
Like he's holding back his gag reflex or something.
00:19:00.020
They're talking about automation and AI, but they're saying that you need Pakistani train
00:19:16.020
You see how the British state tries to equalise incomes between different groups?
00:19:20.860
Because that's been the result of the demographic change and the socialist communist dogma that
00:19:31.480
Where they're just trying to take the lower and upper limits of the average wages in this
00:19:35.500
country and flatten them down to the same level.
00:19:44.200
A radical overhaul of how welfare is delivered.
00:19:48.140
Protecting those in genuine need, but not funding healthy shirkers to live off the back of hardworking
00:20:04.380
If you consistently refuse work, then you will lose your benefits.
00:20:11.060
We will punish indolence, and more importantly, we will reward success.
00:20:16.220
We will provide vast economic incentives for men and women to start businesses, generate opportunities,
00:20:23.560
build wealth, and create self-sufficient families.
00:20:27.040
Standing here today on the farm, I know exactly what it means to deal with energy bills, labour
00:20:33.080
shortages, regulation, unproductive paperwork, planning restrictions, tax, and endless uncertainty.
00:20:41.080
The state has definitively become the enemy of the people.
00:20:47.140
I don't think there's very few people that believes anything queer Stalin has currently
00:20:57.260
If your operating assumption is that this is a man who loves his country and his people,
00:21:04.480
If your operating assumption is that he absolutely hates them...
00:21:10.360
Well, I mean, hates them, and is also completely schizophrenic in how to punish them.
00:21:15.180
Because he's done, what, 13, 14 U-turns on policy as people have been documenting.
00:21:19.460
The man just knows that he hates us, but he doesn't know how to apply it.
00:21:27.060
Restore Britain will burn away suffocating taxes on work and enterprise.
00:21:36.020
We will dismantle bloated quangos and the overbearing HR culture.
00:21:43.800
We will restore long-term, stable, logical policy so that businesses can plan and invest
00:21:54.160
When he's talking about the regulation and he's tinkering with the stream, sort of shows
00:22:00.660
you a sort of philosophical picture that the country is meant to work naturally, and
00:22:07.340
it's you who have dammed it up, or you, the government, who have dammed it up and clogged
00:22:12.540
And that's completely true, because we, as a nation, the amount that we want to work
00:22:17.800
and do stuff and sort of be entrepreneurial is huge.
00:22:21.100
I mean, even with everything that's happened, we still grew the tiniest amount, because we're
00:22:29.820
I know, it's dreadful, but that's against all odds.
00:22:37.060
And you sort of see that a nation of shopkeepers is not, in fact, a slur.
00:22:41.720
It means that everybody thinks, how can I provide for myself and provide for my family?
00:22:47.600
You go to the grocers, and you go to the butchers, and you go to whatever, and everybody takes
00:22:52.800
care of themselves, and it flows naturally like a river.
00:22:56.780
So there's a spiritual image there, which I really like.
00:23:00.560
Poor Britain is about much more than numbers on a spreadsheet.
00:23:04.620
It's about who we are as a nation, and who we are as a people.
00:23:23.420
The one and only party that actually stipulates that.
00:23:28.540
Just because you get a passport doesn't mean you're British.
00:23:31.300
Just because you subscribe to these nebulous, vague, British values doesn't mean you're British either.
00:23:51.180
And Restore Britain will never allow that to be erased.
00:23:54.980
We will celebrate our Christian heritage, and the identity that built and shaped this country.
00:24:00.200
Responsibility, restraint, forgiveness, duty, and fairness.
00:24:11.320
That will mean resisting the relentless creep of radical Islam.
00:24:15.940
That will mean banning the burqa, outlawing Sharia law.
00:24:20.420
Blocking cousin marriages, and re-imposing our Christian-based rule of law.
00:24:25.900
A Restore Britain government would legislate to ensure that no halal or kosher slaughter on British soil.
00:24:33.180
This is Britain, and we will do things our way.
00:24:36.560
I like that specifically as well, and I think I even said it in one of my posts, is that, yeah, this is our land.
00:24:52.240
If I go to Japan, I want Japanese culture to be supreme, right?
00:25:00.900
This political party now exists for one reason.
00:25:06.580
To make it a better, safer, and more prosperous place for British men and women to raise their families.
00:25:21.840
I hope you will consider joining me on this journey, and becoming a member of our party.
00:25:27.740
It is our country, it is now our collective responsibility to act.
00:25:48.780
Well, I was going to say, there's a hopefulness to it, but the idea that the hopefulness will pay off 50 or 60 years from now.
00:25:58.200
There's a lot to hope for if they can make everything in there come to pass.
00:26:01.920
The funny thing is that, again, there was no sort of false optimism displayed there.
00:26:07.700
Even in the presentation of it, you're watching a man of an older generation on a grim, cloudy day in the British countryside,
00:26:17.040
which has its own particular beauty to it, talk to you about the grim necessity of what needs to be done,
00:26:24.640
whilst very dour and sad piano music plays in the background.
00:26:29.100
There's no MAGA Americanism to it, which would have been inappropriate, and there's no sort of reform faux MAGA American stuff in there.
00:26:40.520
This is a much more British composure to this whole thing.
00:26:43.660
This is British stoicism in the face of adversity.
00:26:53.680
So, if you haven't signed up already, go sign up.
00:27:02.400
I wasn't a member of Restore Britain prior to this.
00:27:06.500
The moment they created a national party, boom, you've got my money.
00:27:18.980
So, this is fantastic, and then the dominoes have begun to fall, so we've got Ben Habib.
00:27:24.240
We won't watch this because we're a little bit tight on time now due to the technical issues,
00:27:28.000
but this is Ben Habib basically announcing, I'm going to go to the College of Advance with
00:27:33.560
the express desire and push to merge Advance with Restore Britain.
00:27:40.220
So, that's over 40,000 members that will be merging with Restore Britain.
00:27:44.760
Now, he's speaking from the perspective of this is going to happen.
00:27:53.740
He's like, I'm going to go there and talk about the specifics of the merger.
00:27:57.940
It's not if we're going to merge, it's the specifics of.
00:28:01.180
So, as far as I'm concerned, that's happening in terms of how he's articulated it anyway.
00:28:07.580
Some people have said he's posted some things lately, which may sound like that's not happening.
00:28:12.580
In the comments to those tweets, he said, no, that's absolutely not the case.
00:28:19.860
This is the uniting of the right, as far as I'm concerned.
00:28:28.500
And Ben Habib's like, yep, that, I hope, is the plan.
00:28:32.280
So, again, still pushing for it, still wanting it.
00:28:40.240
Duncan Banatai, who's an incredibly rich individual.
00:28:44.720
Yeah, massive, massive, massive amount of money.
00:28:49.980
Now, I cannot stress how important that actually is for members of the upper echelon of British society to break from the status quo.
00:29:02.700
Publicly promoting a nativist right-wing party that is promising millions of mass deportations.
00:29:11.080
But Banatai came out around the same time as Ratcliffe, like, last week, didn't we?
00:29:17.100
If you're a British industrialist, you have to invest in this.
00:29:22.200
If you actually make things as opposed to import things, you have to invest in this.
00:29:29.400
I mean, I think I might see part of it as well.
00:29:31.320
I've only just noticed in Banatai's bio there, he has seven children.
00:29:43.500
Well, yeah, so that actually goes to the next thing.
00:29:45.680
He said, who will stand up for the rights of Christians?
00:29:48.560
He has now started to sort of break from the status quo.
00:29:54.360
Again, like, I didn't know who was so base, did you?
00:30:01.780
You know, you've got stupid, stupid man here, robot 5000, queer Stalin, saying my Labour government
00:30:15.700
A prime minister's job and a government's job is the native people, the protection of
00:30:24.800
So good that Banatai has jumped on that as well.
00:30:26.640
Well, now, unfortunately, not everyone on the right wants to jump on board, of course.
00:30:42.840
But never mind, mate, because UKIP's not going to achieve anything, bud.
00:30:54.340
Oh, and so just to round it off, because this is comical as hell, all you reform voters,
00:31:03.320
I mean, they're basically indistinguishable from one another now anyway.
00:31:12.320
I think we should be clear about what some of the problems with such a thing would be in
00:31:16.620
Well, it's not just that with the Tories that you're pulling over Tory MPs and Tory members
00:31:21.840
and councillors, who can all be of varying quality and could, in fact, be good people.
00:31:25.820
It's the fact that with the Tories, you're also pulling over the entire party structure
00:31:29.660
and all of the people like Michael Gove who are in charge of it, who are not to be trusted.
00:31:36.120
Essentially, Michael Gove and Dougie Smith are two power brokers in the Conservative Party.
00:31:48.040
But also, not only that, is reform was the protest vote.
00:31:50.860
It was the vote to smash in the Tories, get them gone.
00:31:57.340
Apparently, if you want to vote for reform at the next election, you'll just get the Tories,
00:32:02.400
What a banger tweet there from Nate or Mistage Reviews.
00:32:08.420
Looks rather dashing there in that photo there.
00:32:10.120
Anyway, it says, vote reform, get Tories, vote restore, get the nativist party working
00:32:29.860
I still get a small sense of satisfaction from it.
00:32:37.520
If you want to restore Britain to what it once was, not just merely reforming and sort
00:32:43.000
of tinkering around the edges of the globo-homo-multicultural nonsense, join Restore.
00:32:49.400
You're reforming Tony Blair's UK or you're restoring Britain.
00:32:55.060
You're either going back to the Cameron Blair days through reform or you're actually
00:33:19.860
I'll read through some of the higher spenders on the superchats.
00:33:27.020
Rupert's video made me think of the scenes from Gladiator with the sunlit upland speech
00:33:39.000
Also, young men and women are desperate to believe in something.
00:33:41.880
To have hope most people understand the journey ahead is now hard.
00:33:45.440
Suffering and being tested brings meaning, as Firaz's faith might say.
00:33:50.100
And OPH UK says, this is going to start the European dominoes in Richmond, going to flee
00:33:54.760
to France, which will boil over and vote in Le Pen's party.
00:33:58.120
Then they're going to flee to Germany, which will boil over and vote in the AFD, etc.
00:34:04.520
That is something that they're also considering as a possibility for this, which is, I'll go
00:34:12.120
over more in my segment in a moment, but the idea that there is going to need to be a
00:34:16.200
European-wide coalition, which is something that I think many people have acknowledged
00:34:20.400
for a long while, which is you can't just throw them back over the channel to France
00:34:25.380
and expect France to just deal with that neutrally.
00:34:30.000
They're going to try and push them back over here, or there will be a more concentrated
00:34:35.640
Because otherwise, they're just going to be a problem wherever they pop up.
00:34:37.920
Anyway, should we go to my segment, please, Harry?
00:34:50.860
I mean, you were basically doing that a minute ago.
00:34:55.700
So let's look a little bit more into what's going on with Restore since the initial announcement
00:35:00.560
and also what the general media response to this has been, because, of course, the prevailing
00:35:05.600
narrative for the past year or so has been that Reform is the only game in town if you're
00:35:10.160
a right-wing party looking to actually get into power in the UK, and that if you went
00:35:15.320
with anybody else, you weren't going to get anywhere at all.
00:35:18.240
And to be fair, that has seemed to be it for the past year before this, after Rupert got
00:35:23.540
unceremoniously kicked out of the party, which was a number of different littler parties
00:35:29.020
popped up, but none of them really had any chance of getting anywhere.
00:35:32.520
So now Restore is seeming to be the next big ticket in town, next to Reform, if you're
00:35:45.360
I was going to say, definitely they've responded in the most sane way possible, haven't they?
00:35:51.260
I mean, if they've even responded at all, for the most part.
00:35:55.080
But so Rupert himself has set out this large post about the immigration party that Restore
00:36:02.320
Of course, you can read more about this in detail if you go to the Restore website and
00:36:06.560
read their policy paper on mass deportation, remigration.
00:36:10.040
But here's just a general overview that he's put of the kinds of aims that they're going
00:36:23.920
We release the most comprehensive deportation policy ever produced.
00:36:30.680
We're not living under the pretense that there's women and children coming over now, are we?
00:36:40.680
But then he goes on to the much thornier subject of legal immigration, which is an area where
00:36:45.660
parties like the Tories and like Reform don't like to step.
00:36:49.720
They don't want to talk about this sort of stuff because not only do they see this as
00:36:54.600
an ideological landmine, they also see the people who've come in over the past few years
00:37:00.180
as potential future constituents for their own parties.
00:37:03.420
Nigel Farage has said himself that they don't want to alienate the Muslim bloc just in case
00:37:09.460
because they might be able to rely on their votes in the future.
00:37:12.320
But of course, that would be dependent on offering a policy platform that is going to
00:37:24.920
It's not that the Muslims aren't interested in antagonizing you or in taking you on.
00:37:32.620
They're perfectly happy to say to you, we are here to take over.
00:37:39.340
We will outbreed you, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
00:37:42.140
So it is incredibly one-sided not to accept that there is a conflict.
00:37:52.700
So they are actually going for legal immigration here as well, saying that for the foreseeable
00:37:59.980
Entire visa routes will be closed off from certain countries that are proven to suppliers
00:38:03.720
with sex pests, criminals, illegals, Islamists, and the rest.
00:38:10.640
Albania, Pakistan, Somalia, Eritrea, Afghanistan.
00:38:18.160
He says, if a foreign national is entirely unable to speak English, they will be asked
00:38:24.300
How can somebody possibly contribute if they cannot communicate?
00:38:29.480
And it's worth noting here as well that in interviews like on the Winston Marshall show
00:38:33.500
as well, Rupert has shown that he is ultimately still of a civic nationalist mentality where he
00:38:44.320
He's not discriminating in that way in a very 1980s Thatcher manner.
00:38:48.560
He believes in merit quite similarly to Farage, but in terms of the actual...
00:38:56.600
It does seem to be a carryover between everything he's saying and that potential offshoot benefit
00:39:06.060
In terms of like what needs to be done and the strength of character to do so,
00:39:11.020
Lowe seems to demonstrate that he's got a little bit more of what we're after.
00:39:15.940
And he's certainly willing to stick to his convictions in this way.
00:39:20.640
He says a foreigner claiming benefits and living in social housing will be asked to leave.
00:39:25.260
Dual national extremists will have their citizenships stripped and then deported.
00:39:30.500
If an individual surrenders his second citizenship in an attempt to fraudulently remain in Britain,
00:39:36.420
we will take the necessary steps to reverse that process and deport them.
00:39:43.240
ILR, the independent leave to remain, will be abolished in its entirety.
00:39:48.740
Now, this will also require heavy structural overhauls with how all of the system works,
00:39:54.760
as far as I can tell, mainly involving stepping over the ECHR, whether that means leaving it
00:40:01.080
or simply passing legislation allowing parts of the British government to just step over it entirely.
00:40:13.140
But this could be affected, but it will require some big structural change to the governance of this country,
00:40:19.420
which, again, like everything else we're talking about here, frankly, if the country is to continue
00:40:24.400
and to be recognisable in any way, is going to need to happen one way or another as it is,
00:40:30.040
because the way that the country is structured in its governance right now,
00:40:37.100
But it can be done, because Parliament in this country is sovereign.
00:40:46.080
And this is one of the most important things as well,
00:40:48.180
because this is something that I've had concerns over that I don't often hear people talking about
00:40:52.400
when they talk about mass remigration, mass deportations,
00:40:56.360
and all the difficulties that will come with that.
00:40:58.400
And that's one of the refreshing things about this,
00:41:00.160
is the acknowledgement that it will be difficult,
00:41:02.940
in that there is always the threat that a country,
00:41:17.780
no, we're not going to let these people pass through our country.
00:41:20.420
There is always a hostile nature to these kinds of geopolitical negotiations.
00:41:25.820
And so there needs to be a plan for what we do in those cases.
00:41:33.280
Foreign aid is a huge piece of leverage that we still have over a lot of these countries.
00:41:38.940
Visas, remittances, we could simply claim any and all remittances that are sent out of these countries,
00:41:50.680
or we'll just hold on to this money and not let any of these people send any more money.
00:41:56.140
Of course, but these countries, a lot of them rely heavily on remittances.
00:42:01.200
A lot of money goes into India, for instance, from remittances.
00:42:05.220
Somalia, effectively their entire economy is built on remittances.
00:42:10.780
America, Mexico basically relies on remittances,
00:42:29.300
presumably in this situation with friendly foreign governments.
00:42:33.300
So we're going to have to assume as well in this case
00:42:45.640
If you recognize proto-states like Eastern Libya or like Somaliland
00:42:51.380
and say, we will give you X amount of investments
00:43:03.480
you will see that the governments of the people who are deported
00:43:09.320
So there is a solution that bypasses a lot of this stuff
00:43:16.200
Of course, but it's whether they're going to be willing or not
00:43:20.980
And he does leave the little contingency at the end here,
00:43:23.600
saying we will take a small number of ultra-high-skilled migrants
00:43:26.360
on one condition, that it benefits the British people.
00:43:33.600
so you can't say he's just like a mindless bigot or something,
00:43:36.640
but there's a pretty strong condition attached to it.
00:43:40.680
He is also saying that rules and fees around spouse visas
00:43:44.360
will be eased for individuals from non-Red List countries,
00:43:49.560
It's nice that even with the stuff that some will say
00:43:54.660
that he does still have pretty strict conditions
00:44:02.240
have every right to bring their foreign spouse to Britain
00:44:09.720
and let me know if this sounds a bit too cope or something,
00:44:14.780
you can bring your fit Slav wife back with you.
00:44:23.800
but if you've some reason picked up an Afghani wife or something,
00:44:44.920
how many deportations will all of this result in?
00:44:50.800
you can say what you want about whether this is a good...
00:44:55.340
You can say what you want about how this may optically look to some constituents around the country right now,
00:45:04.680
They've set out the reality of those goals straight from the start.
00:45:12.420
can't say that they're going to try and lie to people as it stands right now.
00:45:16.780
that could change in the future if they start to walk all of this back.
00:45:24.720
alongside with other policies that I assume that they are going to develop in the future as well.
00:45:30.920
He's carried on with a lot of this stuff as well.
00:45:35.180
so all of these links will probably load as I'm going through them.
00:45:45.940
this was a tweet from Rupert Lowe that I brought up where he said,
00:45:49.500
Restore Britain will put the safety and well-being of British women ahead of third world sex pests who have broken into our country and now freely roam the streets.
00:46:02.680
because there's a lot of international legislation about human rights that forces you to care about these people who are just coming into your country to abuse all of these rules.
00:46:14.060
women are advertised in the migrant gangs' social media posts as one of the incentives to come to Britain.
00:46:24.460
There's that disgusting videos up in Manchester, I believe, isn't it?
00:46:28.880
Where it's just these little urchins going around filming English work.
00:46:36.480
I'm thinking of some of the other initiatives around the country.
00:46:40.860
where a primary school got all of the little girls to write Valentine's Day cards to refugees?
00:46:50.560
I think it was the Greens that I'm thinking of.
00:46:54.960
I don't think any of these links are going to load.
00:47:07.440
More stuff from the Restore account saying that a passport,
00:47:12.660
That when people just lost their collective minds.
00:47:26.840
has been pretty hard on all of this stuff himself.
00:47:30.340
And I would imagine a lot of this messaging is coming directly from Charlie and Harrison
00:47:35.420
and some of the other young chaps who are heavily involved in Restore Britain,
00:47:41.580
where Charlie went on a long essay about how there is no such thing as a fixed set of British values.
00:47:47.180
These are kind of mutable terms that can shift and morph throughout time.
00:47:51.000
So therefore what we should be focusing on is the British people.
00:47:55.760
And therefore we need to define who are the British people.
00:48:03.460
which is kind of like magic words thrown out there.
00:48:07.460
It's nebulous magic words thrown out there to justify them being able to replace.
00:48:11.760
I think British values would essentially mean that everybody in Britain in 1200 AD would be considered not British.
00:48:23.080
Anybody prior to Blairism is not in fact British.
00:48:30.440
I just wanted to highlight the messaging because Charlie does say this in the little video clip where he says,
00:48:42.140
I think this is actually a fantastic line to go with because what it actually does,
00:48:48.060
instead of just dividing people down political lines,
00:48:51.400
if the party are able to maintain this kind of distinction here,
00:49:01.060
it does invite disaffected people from all over the political spectrum who can recognize that there is a lot wrong with the country,
00:49:08.500
and the way that it's managed right now to invite them into the party and create a larger coalition while still recognizing all of these values and positions that the party is set on.
00:49:19.880
I think that now is not the time for this kind of divisive left-right distinction.
00:49:27.060
As much as the left is a real thing and the right is a real thing and there are huge differences between them,
00:49:32.800
if there's any time to start to unite British people and invite British people who have been misled by the political divide in this country onto the right side of things,
00:49:44.620
then I think now is the time and a party like Restore Britain could do this because it's important to remember British people who believe in multiculturalism and diversity and all of these modern values,
00:49:59.600
they didn't get hatched out of an egg this way, right?
00:50:02.880
They are part of a larger cultural structure that imposes these values on them.
00:50:13.720
But most of these are normal people who've simply gone along with the prevailing culture of their time.
00:50:19.300
They've just seen the surroundings and seen what's easiest to go along with, and they've gone along with that.
00:50:24.720
So if we can bring those people over to our side and get that out of their minds, I think that's a good thing.
00:50:36.260
Perhaps that's controversial, but that's where I'm going to plant my flag, damn it.
00:50:44.340
Charlie going on GB News, who have been one of the only larger broadcast networks to actually want to talk about this party in any great detail.
00:50:59.160
I think that whether or not you cover Rupert Lowe will define your relevance.
00:51:04.300
And if you don't, it will kill your relevance for most of the country because the media landscape has changed so much.
00:51:10.740
People who support reform or the conservatives will tend to watch GB News.
00:51:16.940
If GB News doesn't cover Rupert Lowe, somebody who does cover them will get their viewership.
00:51:22.580
So they're stuck having to cover him no matter how they, you know, the management, shall we say, feels about his project.
00:51:32.100
And so how is everything, how is the political scene reacting to it?
00:51:37.960
Well, you can see here from Steve putting up the betting odds on the party, jumping overnight from 33 to 1 for the next general election, overnight to 14 to 1.
00:51:54.440
That could just be a blip because of all of the hype because they're a brand new party and all of the announcement and stuff.
00:51:59.240
But that is promising and it shows that they are putting forward a message that is resonating with a fair few people.
00:52:05.460
You have people like Tom saying that he's joined already.
00:52:09.760
And you have, again, like mentioned in the last one, Elon.
00:52:13.420
Now, I think Elon could be a double-edged sword personally, frankly, mainly because there is a certain clownishness.
00:52:22.920
There's a certain clown world stench around Elon from my perspective.
00:52:28.120
And there is also this, now there's the MAGA ties and his flip-flopping on whether he's pro or anti-MAGA.
00:52:36.020
And then just recently his new Epstein Association.
00:52:39.840
So, while I would never recommend Lowe or the party or anything like that to overtly disavow him,
00:52:46.080
I would say with somebody like Elon, maybe keep him at an arm's length.
00:52:56.300
That applies to absolutely everyone that has come out in support of Rupert.
00:53:05.540
There's a particular and much more weighty baggage with somebody like Elon Musk.
00:53:12.760
Because Elon Musk is also so much more influential than somebody like a Steve Laws or even a Tommy Robinson.
00:53:19.940
But you are right that even the media has already come out trying to attack Rupert on the basis that Tommy Robinson has been supporting.
00:53:29.280
There's lots of attack vectors that they're working with at the moment.
00:53:36.260
But here's how the mainstream media are reporting on it.
00:53:43.940
The most recent one was just this one, just naming him.
00:53:51.440
Doesn't give much of an actual rundown of any of their policies or what the party is aiming for, what their statement and mission is.
00:54:05.060
GB News did actually put out a proper one saying this, but again, very perfunctory.
00:54:18.980
I looked through and couldn't find anything other than just saying, like, Elon's interested in this new party.
00:54:25.520
The Independent, again, going with ex-Reform MP who came to blows with Farage, launches new political party with very similar name.
00:54:38.820
That both of the parties start with R at the beginning of them.
00:54:48.060
My favorite one, though, was now my favorite headline from Searchlight, of which there aren't many,
00:54:57.500
Online Nazis hail our leader as Rupert Lowe launches new party.
00:55:05.820
This is, of course, pointing out that people like Steve Lowe's and friend of the show...
00:55:12.380
And friend of the show and guest Callum Barker are supportive of it.
00:55:17.140
I'm sure they've done something or there's some weird lens stuff going on because that's not what Callum looks like.
00:55:24.640
I was going to say, unless he's been indulging in a few of the pork pies over Christmas and New Year's,
00:55:29.260
but, you know, it's been a little while since we've seen him.
00:55:34.880
Now, this is talking about the fanatical Nazi Zuma historian,
00:55:40.040
who, even though he's been doxed, they got his name wrong.
00:55:43.980
But, obviously, you actually have to read through the article for this,
00:55:47.720
but they've put the subheadal fanatical Nazi over a picture of Rupert Lowe,
00:55:52.740
so I wonder what association they're trying to draw there.
00:55:55.960
They do, sadly, have to note, though, that we've no reason to believe that Lowe himself is a Nazi or an anti-Semite,
00:56:03.880
but he has to accept responsibility for a stream of extremist rhetoric online
00:56:09.740
that's obviously designed to appeal to the most racist elements of reforms,
00:56:13.840
activist-based, trying to prize them away from Farage.
00:56:17.420
So Searchlight coming out saying that, no, reform need the Nazis.
00:56:21.780
That's what I'm taking from that little statement there.
00:56:26.320
So, across the pond, we have the reaction of noted political influencer Asmongold,
00:56:32.860
who got a lot of views on this video that he did on YouTube.
00:56:37.300
I think it got over a million views in just a few hours,
00:56:40.520
where he was saying, if I was in Britain, I would vote for this guy.
00:56:46.040
And we can contrast all of this now against the reaction from reform,
00:56:51.040
which has been somewhat muted, and there's been very, very little acknowledgement,
00:56:58.280
that there is even this whole new party that former member Rupert Lowe has said.
00:57:03.240
Now, what I was expecting, and what seems to be the case,
00:57:06.160
is that reform would take note, not acknowledge it publicly,
00:57:10.560
and maybe shift a little bit of their messaging,
00:57:15.440
to try to maintain interest from those members of the party,
00:57:23.460
who might be inclined to switch over to Restore instead.
00:57:26.760
So the most you get is somebody like Zaya Yusuf,
00:57:30.340
putting out a post like this, saying that we need mass deportations.
00:57:34.140
As far as I'm aware, Zaya is one of the ones who's actually been more consistent on this line.
00:57:42.000
Zaya is one of the more professional and serious-seeming people within the party,
00:57:51.100
There's the reminder of back in the day, last year,
00:58:04.000
oh, I'll basically be dead by the time that the country is a minority English at this point anyway,
00:58:10.800
I directly contradicting Restore's messaging of generational inheritance of the land.
00:58:21.660
It was crickets from Richard Tice on his Twitter account
00:58:30.460
that he starts to change his tune on that a little bit
00:58:32.840
to keep anybody who might be at risk of moving over.
00:58:38.180
that they don't want anybody who would be evil and right-wing enough
00:58:54.240
because that would be even further aligning themselves
00:59:08.700
Again, a very, very poor counterpoint to Rupert's much stronger stance
00:59:16.480
and the party's stronger stance taken on such a thing.
01:00:19.300
which just smacks of a complete lack of judgment from him.
01:00:21.960
And it just means that, you know, in the future,
01:00:32.000
of Donald Trump saying something as ridiculous as this.
01:29:15.320
yeah if you have to spam the seven parts of yours go ahead those sorts of places are
01:29:24.800
absolutely fantastic i love the atmosphere of them yeah
01:29:28.580
one of the major reasons that male to female transitions are supported is because testosterone
01:29:36.820
is highly regulated testosterone is considered a performance enhancing drug and a key component
01:29:42.480
of athletic steroids there is less red tape to deal with if you convince a man to take estrogen
01:29:47.940
instead plus it makes a male into a gelded domesticated consumer which is an ideal target
01:29:53.240
for lazy corporate media marketers and activists try and convince people that transgenderism is a
01:29:58.620
thing i think i think this is in regards to when we said what if people have if people have like
01:30:06.660
feel like a woman oh i'm so sorry i feel like a woman if they go to therapy just like okay
01:30:11.460
here's some testosterone then bro that makes way more sense to me but yeah it is it is a highly
01:30:17.460
regulated special sports supplement hey loadseaters i'm on the isle of wight and i managed to get here
01:30:26.520
from portsmouth on a hovercraft that was quite cool awesome nice
01:30:31.440
but uh i couldn't notice there was a something a bit unusual about this hovercraft something uh
01:30:41.440
something i wouldn't have expected oh why why was the hovercraft gay
01:30:47.900
why is it a gay hovercraft you rode it mate bro i hope you didn't sit on any of the seats on that
01:30:57.900
hovercraft man because also zesty i remember the last gold zoom that i was on that you came on that
01:31:04.320
you said that you were thinking of visiting cheshire and asked me for any suggestions uh did you go
01:31:09.500
and did you like anywhere in particular there's a question for you and with that that's all we've
01:31:16.300
got time for so thank you all very much for joining us today join firaz in half an hour for
01:31:22.240
realpolitik where you're going to be talking about the madness that we saw at munich there we go so join
01:31:29.660
him for that and for everybody else we'll see you again tomorrow please take care goodbye