The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon, folks. Welcome to the podcast of the Low Seaters for Friday the 20th of February

00:00:04.360 2025. I am joined by Nick and Beau, and today we're going to be talking about the future

00:00:10.740 bifurcation of British politics. I think it's actually all sort of collapsing down into the

00:00:14.880 same thing. Then we're going to be looking at who is actually running the country as

00:00:18.640 in the literal mechanisms of government. What kind of people are pulling those? Not great

00:00:23.440 ones. And aliens are real. According to Barack Obama. Not white words. Well, I mean, I guess

00:00:33.360 I mean, who would know other than presidents, I guess, you know. But anyway, so this is going

00:00:39.840 to be a fun one this afternoon. And after the podcast, we are doing Alt Media Parliament on

00:00:45.720 the Lads Hour. So basically, we're going to be choosing our ideal government with the media

00:00:49.940 figures that we're familiar with. Personally, I'm rooting for Katie Hopkins as head of Ofcom. 1.00

00:00:55.180 I hope the panel will agree with me on that. Because it'd be funny. But that's at three

00:01:00.300 o'clock on the website. So of course, come and join us then. Anyway, without further ado,

00:01:04.960 let us begin. So we've got a couple of different things that have happened recently. I'm just

00:01:10.280 going to just get that to a further point so you can see. So we've got an aristocratic

00:01:16.280 man on his farm who I think has the general political disposition of Sir Arthur Wellesley,

00:01:23.860 the Duke of Wellington, right? Am I wrong? Not really, right? He's got that kind of like

00:01:31.140 hard, old Tory, shire Tory opinion, which is law and order, you know, people in their place

00:01:38.520 and everything going as it should be going, as is tradition.

00:01:42.000 And the government get out of my farm, get out of my business and stop messing with my

00:01:47.720 life. When you said Wellesley, I immediately thought, has Reaper fought any battles in

00:01:51.740 India? But no, I know what you're saying now. I get what you're saying in Spain.

00:01:56.380 He easily could. Yeah, I was saying that on a stream last night. He's an old Tory. This

00:02:00.780 is the thing. He's not that extreme or anything. People are trying to paint it like this.

00:02:03.960 He's actually this old Tory. What our leaders have done to us is extreme. But now, you know,

00:02:08.320 the solutions are slightly robust for the average Brit, which is people have to be sent home

00:02:13.060 and things like this, you know, or not, you know, more robust than we've had to be in

00:02:16.280 the past. But it's because things, extreme things have been done to us. If you look at

00:02:19.840 Rupert, he's just an old Tory going, stay out of my business. Yeah. Old school Britain.

00:02:24.180 Yeah, because there's currently an attempt on the wet lib right. So conservatives, unheard, 0.86

00:02:31.760 those sort of types. And of course, reform are trying to call Rupert a neo-Nazi. And he

00:02:38.900 started to announce by it. It's like, no, I mean, nothing about this screams 20th century

00:02:43.660 Germanism. What it screams is 19th century Britishism. As in, this is the kind of, yeah, 0.84

00:02:50.140 we'll go and fight Napoleon. You could exactly hear him saying, well, we'll have to go and

00:02:53.740 fight Napoleon then. Well, you know, we'll have to give me an army, send me to Portugal, you 0.63

00:02:57.600 know, I'll sort this out. You could see exactly that sort of, those sort of words coming out

00:03:01.880 of his mouth, not, you know, 20th century fascist rhetoric, because we just haven't heard

00:03:09.320 any of that from Rupert. We're not going to. The forces of reaction, I wear that badge

00:03:13.260 proudly. Oh, yeah. Quite often, nativist, nationalist, right of centre leaning politics is a reaction

00:03:20.180 to how crazy the left have gone throughout history I'm talking about. Correct. And so Rupert

00:03:24.980 and restore is a reaction to what's been done to us, isn't it? Yeah. It's pretty straightforwardly

00:03:31.020 that. But what I like about these sort of political, and this is essentially a campaign

00:03:35.720 ad, what I like about these things is it gives the parties an opportunity to present themselves

00:03:40.420 in the best possible light, in the way that they think of themselves. And Rupert was just

00:03:44.460 on his farm saying, look, this is going to be tough, this is going to be difficult, it's going

00:03:48.420 to be painful, but it must be done for the future of the country to keep it in line with

00:03:53.220 the past of the country, in order to reverse the radical Blairite revolution that has taken

00:03:58.600 place, as David Starkey and Peter Hitchens call it, which I think is correct, and to restore

00:04:04.400 it to something that is recognisably Britain and authentically British. Compared to this,

00:04:10.480 we have this campaign ad from Zach Polanski. Now, I found this absolutely fascinating. I'm going

00:04:17.040 to do a full screen just so we can see in detail. Look, I get it. This set he has chosen. Now,

00:04:23.980 as someone who runs a podcast, I've had to make a few sets in my day, and you think about

00:04:30.100 what's in the background of the set, and you think about the aesthetic you're trying to put

00:04:34.680 across, you think about what you're trying to tell people. And for some reason, Zach Polanski

00:04:38.380 has chosen a 1970s council estate living room. Well, maybe not council estate. That's a very

00:04:45.240 nice fireplace, right? So... To be honest, it's my grandma's house in the 1980s when they lived

00:04:50.080 in Northampton. I actually got nostalgic. I was like, I remember houses like that. Yeah.

00:04:53.520 And this is a very deliberate choice, right? Yeah, yeah. And he also says, you know, you just

00:04:57.340 want to watch Corrie. And I was like, you've never watched Corrie. You don't know what Corrie

00:05:01.660 is. And you've never been in a house like that. You're broadcasting from my gran's house

00:05:05.280 in the 80s and pretending to appeal to working class people. My granddad was a very work

00:05:09.840 class bloke who'd be like, do you watch Emmerdale Farm, Nicky? I'm like, oh no, sorry, I haven't

00:05:13.520 seen it, granddad. He'd think I was like a posh snob because I wouldn't watch Emmerdale

00:05:16.800 Farm or whatever. And it's like that. It's like your programs, and he's trying to appeal

00:05:21.280 to that. But my granddad would also see through this guy in a second, because he's never appealing

00:05:25.860 to the working class. Well, this is what I want to talk about. This sort of inauthenticity 1.00

00:05:28.660 of the set, which I find really interesting. I mean, that carpet is way too loud,

00:05:33.240 right? Nobody actually had a carpet that loud back in the 1980s. Outside of a pub.

00:05:37.700 Yeah, outside of a pub. Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And because the carpet is designed to

00:05:41.460 hide mess. So the same reason they have the very loud bus covers on the bus seats and trains

00:05:49.060 is to hide stains, right? But no one in their actual house would have had a carpet like that.

00:05:53.920 That's a very posh fireplace. I mean, you know, very expensive looking fireplace. But then there's

00:05:58.680 the placement of the objects. Look how regular they are around in the background. Like a stack

00:06:04.500 of papers with the glasses, and then about a foot, and then the clock in the middle, and then about

00:06:09.020 another foot and another clock for some reason. And then you've got the T's on the table behind

00:06:14.080 him, but it's behind him, so you can't access it. So it's very clearly a prop. And then you've

00:06:18.240 got a very weird, like, what is that, 1950s radio? Yeah, the radio is metal. But again,

00:06:22.880 very clean, very undamaged, but perfectly spaced between just a random bowl. And then the thing

00:06:29.540 they're sitting on, the little table that's sat on, it's just kind of, there's, it's been

00:06:33.820 arranged. Yeah, that table got me nostalgic, those folding tables. Yeah, yeah, of course.

00:06:38.080 But it's all, yeah, very much. Whose glasses are those as well? Because he's not, they're not his.

00:06:41.580 Yeah, exactly. He doesn't wear glasses. So the whole thing just, it felt very arranged,

00:06:46.400 right? And so I was looking at the right, okay, it's artificial, and it is trying to

00:06:51.700 invoke a nostalgic past. He is actually trying to evoke a kind of British traditionalism in

00:06:58.780 this. Whereas with Rupert, he unconsciously evoked it by being authentic. He was on his

00:07:05.480 farm. Yeah. He was telling you straight, this is going to be difficult, but we've got to do

00:07:10.020 it. Whereas Zach Polanski is artificially trying to invoke a past that actually no longer exists.

00:07:15.100 This is not a world that exists anymore. This isn't anyone's real experience. Like the

00:07:18.680 average Zoomer watching this is just like, what is this? You know, this doesn't look like

00:07:23.460 the council estate I was raised on or whatever, right? And so it's interesting how they're

00:07:27.420 both appealing to traditional British aesthetics, but only one is doing it authentically. The

00:07:32.980 other is doing it very artificially. And Zach Polanski is hardly the sort of person we

00:07:37.440 would think of as a sort of authentic British person anyway. But anyway.

00:07:42.600 Hang on. I will say one thing though. It's smart to get him sat down if you've seen him

00:07:46.380 running. I have. Him running is one of the most insane things I've ever seen. I've not

00:07:51.520 seen that. It's really uncoordinated. He was the last pick for football at school.

00:07:55.560 Yeah. Right. Right. I've never seen a human run like that. Literally, it should disqualify

00:07:59.680 him from office on its own. If you've seen Keir Starmer try to punch a punching bag, it's

00:08:04.000 like a hundred times worse than that. It's insane. It's mad. It's not. It's not. Have 0.64

00:08:09.280 you ever seen anything like it? No. I mean, literally no. Maybe like Forrest Gump the first

00:08:13.880 day he got those things taken off his legs. But that would be generous. But then he starts

00:08:16.800 running properly. He starts running really well. Yeah. It's like Forrest Gump with the

00:08:20.360 leg things on still. You're like, have you got leg braces? It's insane. Anyway, we'll watch

00:08:25.080 this because it's not very long and it's a very interesting thing. If you want me to pause

00:08:28.000 any point, let me know. Look, I get it. We all hate party broadcasts. We just want to

00:08:32.060 watch Corrie or whatever's on next. But I just want to take a moment to ask you to remember

00:08:36.860 something the government want you to forget. They want you to forget that right now we

00:08:42.100 are living in rip-off Britain. There was a time when bills weren't just going up and

00:08:46.840 up and up and our public services actually worked. That what's happening right now, it's

00:08:51.880 not normal. It's not extreme or obscene to ask for something better. We're paying for

00:08:57.540 it after all. But right now they're getting exactly what they want, which is for you to

00:09:02.320 think that change is not possible. That it has to be this way. But it does not have to

00:09:08.000 be this way. Billionaires own far too many of our politicians.

00:09:13.340 I thought he was going to say immigrants. Everything you'd said up until that point,

00:09:16.960 yeah, the immigrants are a bit of an issue, aren't they, Zach? 1.00

00:09:19.480 You want to talk about what's normal? You're not normal, Zach.

00:09:22.820 Yeah, that's true. You're not actually very representative of the majority of the people in this country.

00:09:26.600 One thing that's quite interesting is he says it's not extreme to us. It's similar to the right. He's

00:09:30.940 saying it's not extreme to notice this. Exactly. Let me finish this and we'll explore that more.

00:09:36.140 And every day we're seeing how far that rock goes. People at the heart of government leaking secrets.

00:09:42.520 And the Labour government is crumbling. But we've got Nigel Farage. He's trying to paint reform

00:09:48.560 as some sort of alternative. But reform and Labour both accept money from oil and gas companies,

00:09:55.740 arms trade companies, private healthcare and gambling companies. That means they work for them

00:10:01.140 and not you. But the Green Party, we're offering hope and a plan. We're going to take back what's

00:10:08.300 ours from the people who have taken what's ours. Because for decades now, they have been making a 0.90

00:10:14.680 killing from selling it back to us. We need to end rip off Britain. One, we're going to lower bills.

00:10:22.300 We'll get past these pledges. But that's actually a really interesting...

00:10:27.440 I was with him when he said, you know, they're taking money and foreign money, blah, blah. But

00:10:31.660 then when he said, we're getting it back to you, it went a bit bane at the end for me. The people,

00:10:35.820 you know, you're just going to mug the bitch and try and give it to them. 1.00

00:10:39.480 But also, it's ours. Who's our? Like, sorry, I know who the Green Party constituency is. And I 1.00

00:10:47.180 don't really feel like I'm in that first person plural.

00:10:49.040 Right. It was also the pretense that he's one of the people as well, which he isn't. And

00:10:52.780 then, yeah, the ours in the Green Party is Muslims.

00:10:56.000 But also, people don't just hate the rich. They hate being exploited. And that's being 0.61

00:11:00.300 done in various different ways. It's, you know, it's not just a rich person. But anyway,

00:11:04.540 so I found that very interesting how essentially, and this is what sparked it. A friend of mine

00:11:09.700 called Terradone3000 on Twitter had posted this. And it's just very interesting how Rupert Lowe,

00:11:15.080 we must crush parasitic Britain. We need to end a rip-off Britain. Right. So the two ends of the 0.62

00:11:21.300 spectrum, the left and the right, have both understood that there is a problem with the

00:11:25.980 centre. Right. The centre is the issue. It is destroying the country. And so I think that this,

00:11:33.100 as we are witnessing, and I've said this in previous podcasts, we're witnessing a collapse

00:11:36.800 of the centre at the moment. Labour and the Tories are just done. And Farage has decided,

00:11:40.200 I'm going to jump onto the sinking Tory ship. That's weird. Don't know why you'd do that.

00:11:45.760 Don't know why you'd come out and allow Robert Jemmerich to be like, yeah, we're going to keep

00:11:48.640 the Bank of England independent. We're going to have the Office of Budget Responsibility

00:11:51.320 overseeing everything right. So you're in the quangocracy and you're fine with all of that. 1.00

00:11:55.200 Totally weird, but OK. You are going to fuel all the people. They'll clip that and say,

00:11:59.300 see, they're just like, restores the new your party, restores the new Greens.

00:12:03.140 Well, we're the right-wing party outside of the Blair Act consensus. That's the thing.

00:12:06.660 And so, I mean, he is the left-wing party outside of the Blair Act consensus. But the issue is the

00:12:12.700 Blair Act consensus itself is what has destroyed the country, because you literally couldn't point

00:12:17.140 to any other political paradigm that might be responsible. And everyone can see that that's

00:12:22.720 the problem. So whether you think it's billionaires, and in a way, there is an argument there. OK,

00:12:29.360 yeah, I don't. I mean, Rupert Lone, the interview I did with him yesterday, said, well, I don't want

00:12:33.080 the country being bought by BlackRock. Of course he doesn't. He's a high Tory. You know, of course

00:12:37.400 he doesn't want the country being bought by BlackRock. He also doesn't want millions of

00:12:41.400 foreign parasites coming in and taking our welfare. Now, Zach Polanski is completely in favour of that. 1.00

00:12:47.240 So I actually think that Rupert Lowe has both of these aspects of the problem covered, whereas

00:12:52.940 Zach Polanski sees one aspect but openly encourages the other aspect. So I just don't think the Greens 0.97

00:12:58.840 could solve the problem, because they're ideologically blind to it, whether they like.

00:13:03.220 The key difference is Rupert's like, stay off my land, whereas Zach would get onto his farm,

00:13:07.840 sack the whole place, turn it into a commune of some sort. Send him to a gulag, yeah. But just as a

00:13:13.420 quick aside on this, Zach Polanski is bonkers, actually. This is genuinely funny from Sky News.

00:13:20.220 Will Wattricks is just hilarious.

00:13:22.580 Is the beauty of being an opposition party that isn't going to be in government that you can

00:13:28.580 say what you like, and you don't necessarily have to make the sums that up?

00:13:32.140 Well, I think it'd be really irresponsible to do that. And that's exactly why the Green

00:13:35.120 Party have always put forward a costed manifesto at any general election. It's also why I always

00:13:39.940 want to answer questions honestly about the wealth taxes, and why I think we should have

00:13:43.500 a conversation about the fact that the real wealth creators in this country are cleaners,

00:13:47.420 teachers, nurses, the people who keep our economy moving.

00:13:50.640 None of those people create wealth.

00:13:52.540 I know. I said, like, I've got a degree in English, literally, and even I know that's absolute,

00:13:56.240 yes, like, the cleaners and the, what?

00:13:58.780 They're literally the service.

00:14:01.020 Right.

00:14:01.380 That's where the wealth goes.

00:14:02.820 It doesn't mean they're bad people, but they're not creating wealth.

00:14:06.080 Entrepreneurs create wealth by taking massive risk and employing people.

00:14:09.000 Exactly. What he's describing there is the service side of the economy, which is where

00:14:13.400 the wealth goes after it's been spent, because you want the services that are provided by these

00:14:17.860 valuable people.

00:14:18.760 Yeah, Rupert's employing those people.

00:14:20.600 Exactly.

00:14:21.080 His businesses, or has been.

00:14:22.200 Everyone is. Whenever you earn your money, they're the people you employ with that money.

00:14:25.800 And that's fine. That's normal. It's completely fine.

00:14:28.300 But you can see that Zach Palancey just does not understand the way the world works.

00:14:32.480 I was going to say, it's classic leftist economic theory, i.e. not understanding properly.

00:14:37.880 Always prepare to just say it.

00:14:39.580 That capitalism is the problem. The idea of having a profit motive, that that's the problem.

00:14:46.060 Well, he doesn't understand how wealth is created. That's what he's revealed here.

00:14:49.880 It's like, the real wealth creators are people who don't create wealth.

00:14:53.160 Okay. I mean, that's fine that you've picked a constituency, at least one constituency,

00:14:57.600 but you're just wrong.

00:14:59.940 I mean, and then you've got like brilliant, brilliant takes like this, right?

00:15:03.980 And, but I think you're going to particularly enjoy this one.

00:15:06.160 It's doing what it's meant to do.

00:15:07.200 So how, how do I, as Vladimir Putin, benefit from this?

00:15:11.060 Why should I give away any of my nuclear weapons? 0.85

00:15:14.200 Because we could obliterate you.

00:15:16.260 Well, that's the problem, isn't it?

00:15:17.560 That any kind of time that anyone can obliterate someone,

00:15:21.200 the other person can obliterate the other person too.

00:15:23.140 And if you really want to protect your population,

00:15:25.440 the best thing we could do is all denuclearize.

00:15:27.720 So I think it's about having a conversation.

00:15:29.400 We know from game theory, for instance,

00:15:31.360 that this kind of role-playing doesn't work.

00:15:33.860 What ends up happening is everyone has mutual assured destruction

00:15:37.180 and everyone's dead.

00:15:38.100 Which is why we're currently broadcasting this from heaven.

00:15:43.060 Actually, game theory tells us the opposite.

00:15:45.040 If both people know they can do something,

00:15:47.360 neither one does it in order not to enact the retribution

00:15:50.720 from the party that they've launched against.

00:15:54.100 It's funny, the concept of MAD,

00:15:57.120 mutual assured destruction,

00:15:59.060 has actually held quite well

00:16:01.700 since the Soviets first got their nukes

00:16:04.960 in like the very late 40s, very early 50s.

00:16:07.180 And it has actually worked remarkably well, really,

00:16:10.940 since then, hasn't it?

00:16:12.380 To be fair to it.

00:16:13.500 It's because game theory does tell us the exact opposite

00:16:15.860 of what Zach Polanski has actually said here,

00:16:17.820 and is correct.

00:16:19.120 If both parties,

00:16:20.560 and there are loads of experiments to show this,

00:16:23.020 that if both parties just don't take the action,

00:16:26.160 then they both understand

00:16:27.340 that it's not worth taking the action, right?

00:16:28.900 They know that they can do something,

00:16:30.360 they just don't do it.

00:16:31.540 Because otherwise everyone's dead,

00:16:33.100 which is why we didn't all die.

00:16:35.080 Anyway, so,

00:16:35.840 going back to his constituency,

00:16:38.620 this is very interesting,

00:16:40.100 because the Muslim vote has just flocked to the Greens,

00:16:43.800 which shouldn't surprise anyone.

00:16:45.240 So the Greens are the party

00:16:46.780 of student politicians and Muslims.

00:16:50.920 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:51.480 Match made in hell.

00:16:52.880 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:53.440 What's going to happen,

00:16:54.140 the day that the,

00:16:55.280 let's say the Greens win,

00:16:56.700 what's going to happen to all the non-Muslim Greens? 0.51

00:16:58.700 This is what I want to know.

00:16:59.640 I mean, I know,

00:17:00.120 I just can't say it on air.

00:17:01.100 You think Mothin Ali is going to be like, 0.97

00:17:02.940 sorry, Zach.

00:17:04.100 Well, I think some of the women particularly,

00:17:06.240 I'm like,

00:17:06.560 Hannah Spencer and Gorton,

00:17:08.260 I'm like,

00:17:09.040 do you know this is not going to end well for you?

00:17:10.660 You know,

00:17:10.940 the second that you have any kind of power,

00:17:12.940 what's going to happen to the,

00:17:14.320 I don't know,

00:17:14.720 I can just see how it's going to go.

00:17:16.420 It's not the Libs that are going to win that one.

00:17:19.940 It was just a power struggle between the two.

00:17:22.860 I can't help but feel that Zach Polanski

00:17:25.440 might not actually be representative of his own party,

00:17:27.920 let alone the country.

00:17:29.080 That's a weird thing, isn't it?

00:17:30.120 It's very peculiar, isn't it?

00:17:31.980 But the thing is,

00:17:33.160 he's promising through communist rhetoric,

00:17:35.420 just a redistribution of wealth

00:17:36.900 from the high Tory types to the newly arrived.

00:17:42.240 And so,

00:17:42.840 okay, well,

00:17:43.620 I mean,

00:17:43.900 there is a constituency for that.

00:17:45.860 And there is,

00:17:46.760 you know,

00:17:47.000 there are lots of Muslims here

00:17:48.920 and lots of foreigners who want the money

00:17:50.360 that they can just be given free. 0.73

00:17:51.780 And there are a bunch of radical student retards 1.00

00:17:53.960 who think that this is justice. 0.97

00:17:57.260 What's silly about it is,

00:17:58.600 it actually is the time to make a left-wing economic case.

00:18:01.080 For example,

00:18:02.140 nationalising strategic resources like steel

00:18:04.700 and nationalising water and trains and so on.

00:18:07.340 But he's going way further than saying,

00:18:08.760 cleaners are wealth creators. 0.99

00:18:09.860 And you're like, 1.00

00:18:10.360 can you stop saying stupid nonsense? 1.00

00:18:11.900 Because actually, 1.00

00:18:12.900 you know,

00:18:13.080 someone like the SDP has a serious programme on this

00:18:15.100 and they can't get anywhere.

00:18:15.960 This guy's got the spotlight.

00:18:17.320 It's like,

00:18:17.820 well,

00:18:17.920 you actually,

00:18:18.140 you've got your chance to make

00:18:19.360 some of the left-wing economic case.

00:18:21.500 Yeah.

00:18:21.820 But,

00:18:22.180 because there's not much appetite for Thatcherism right now

00:18:24.700 in the young people,

00:18:26.080 but you're just not making it

00:18:27.060 because you're making,

00:18:27.500 he's making me part of it 1.00

00:18:28.480 and then the stupid, 1.00

00:18:29.880 kill the rich, 1.00

00:18:30.840 cleaners are giving us all the money case. 1.00

00:18:33.420 Well,

00:18:33.660 notice how he,

00:18:34.600 he,

00:18:34.920 he's strategically making the case.

00:18:36.740 When he thinks he's talking to

00:18:38.020 working class people in Britain,

00:18:40.400 he'll strategically make the case.

00:18:41.900 Oh yeah,

00:18:42.120 we're in rip off Britain.

00:18:43.280 And so there is an economic issue.

00:18:45.080 But the thing is,

00:18:46.100 the problem that the Green Party has, 0.94

00:18:48.520 is not just the silly things that he says, 0.97

00:18:50.500 it's that they keep saying, 0.95

00:18:52.020 oh,

00:18:52.280 okay.

00:18:52.580 They're running.

00:18:53.160 No,

00:18:53.320 no,

00:18:53.400 let's, 0.82

00:18:53.660 let's stay on the silly things for a minute, 0.85

00:18:55.240 right? 0.90

00:18:55.400 So this is a Russian news outlet

00:18:57.640 called SVTV News.

00:19:00.440 And even they were like,

00:19:02.060 oh my God,

00:19:03.300 right?

00:19:03.440 Because this is their candidate for Gordon and,

00:19:05.140 Gorton and Denton.

00:19:06.820 And she said this to Matt Goodwin.

00:19:08.440 And it was just remarkable.

00:19:09.980 Never asked why these things are happening.

00:19:11.880 What we did after the terror attacks

00:19:13.400 was we came together

00:19:14.740 and we stuck up for each other.

00:19:16.700 But you've never asked

00:19:18.060 why are those things happening?

00:19:19.760 Of course we have.

00:19:21.000 Why are they happening?

00:19:21.540 Of course we have.

00:19:22.360 Because people like you

00:19:23.360 are dividing people.

00:19:23.800 So I'm responsible for the

00:19:25.260 Manchester News arena body now.

00:19:27.200 It's so bad.

00:19:29.140 Never go full Gary Neville.

00:19:30.800 It's like,

00:19:31.120 you've got to rush into them.

00:19:32.320 They're just like,

00:19:32.820 look at this.

00:19:33.900 Yeah.

00:19:34.220 And it is,

00:19:34.820 it is now,

00:19:35.300 people are now noticing

00:19:36.160 that that's an appalling,

00:19:38.400 totally inadequate,

00:19:39.320 insane and immoral response

00:19:40.760 when,

00:19:41.440 you know,

00:19:41.660 kids have been blown up.

00:19:42.500 It's like,

00:19:42.780 it's you,

00:19:43.240 Matt Goodwin.

00:19:43.840 It's like,

00:19:44.480 no one thinks that anymore,

00:19:45.860 except lefties,

00:19:47.200 because their,

00:19:48.220 their,

00:19:48.560 their beliefs don't pertain

00:19:49.760 to any external reality.

00:19:51.080 It's just,

00:19:51.540 what do my left wing group, 0.91

00:19:52.560 what are we all saying?

00:19:53.320 Oh,

00:19:53.440 we're saying this today.

00:19:54.520 I find out,

00:19:55.060 you know,

00:19:55.280 Jim Ratcliffe made those comments

00:19:57.200 where we've been colonised.

00:19:58.180 I normally watch the Man United channels.

00:20:00.100 It's the only thing

00:20:00.480 I can still talk to my family about.

00:20:01.980 And we bond on football.

00:20:03.560 I watch these channels.

00:20:04.280 I just,

00:20:04.580 they're all just reparroting the left wing.

00:20:06.720 We all,

00:20:07.160 we deserve everything

00:20:07.820 because of colonising.

00:20:08.660 We colonise the world,

00:20:09.580 so we deserve it.

00:20:10.660 You know,

00:20:11.040 all the left wing talking about,

00:20:11.980 it's like, 0.59

00:20:12.620 all unexamined nonsense

00:20:14.140 that they say to each other,

00:20:15.600 but they never meet anyone

00:20:17.160 outside of their bubble.

00:20:18.020 So it's just,

00:20:19.060 anyway.

00:20:19.400 They're very ideologically rigid.

00:20:21.420 I wrote an article before,

00:20:22.740 ages ago,

00:20:23.380 saying,

00:20:24.020 I will look back in anger.

00:20:26.060 The response to it,

00:20:27.200 of don't look back in anger.

00:20:28.580 Don't really question exactly

00:20:29.600 why it happened

00:20:30.420 or who did it

00:20:31.040 or their motivations or anything.

00:20:32.100 Just simply,

00:20:33.260 don't look back in anger.

00:20:34.740 That is a very,

00:20:36.100 completely immoral response to it.

00:20:38.080 That's wrongheaded.

00:20:39.380 It's evil, really.

00:20:40.580 Yeah,

00:20:40.740 that's why Morrissey said,

00:20:41.560 I will look back in anger

00:20:42.300 until the day I die. 0.97

00:20:43.160 Right. 0.84

00:20:43.420 So anyway,

00:20:44.600 the Green Party

00:20:45.380 is ideologically rigid,

00:20:47.180 right?

00:20:47.480 It's an incredibly

00:20:48.400 left wing party

00:20:49.720 and Zach Polanski

00:20:50.960 tries to pitch

00:20:52.900 in tone

00:20:54.300 to working class people,

00:20:55.560 but even then,

00:20:56.240 in the substance

00:20:57.020 of what he said,

00:20:57.580 it is just

00:20:58.100 communist rhetoric.

00:20:59.100 We just want to steal

00:20:59.620 the money from the rich.

00:21:01.320 But the problem is,

00:21:02.140 the rest of their platform

00:21:03.060 is actually as radically

00:21:04.400 just nonsensical

00:21:06.100 as anyone can imagine

00:21:06.940 to the point where

00:21:07.820 it's just genuinely

00:21:08.520 embarrassing

00:21:09.060 their own supporters,

00:21:10.700 right?

00:21:10.880 Here's Jimmy the Giant

00:21:11.980 being like,

00:21:13.300 oh,

00:21:13.520 look at this.

00:21:14.440 I mean,

00:21:14.740 this,

00:21:15.060 if you look at this,

00:21:15.860 right?

00:21:16.580 Green Party policies,

00:21:17.540 open border chaos

00:21:18.300 and unlimited immigration,

00:21:19.580 legalized crack,

00:21:20.160 cocaine and heroin,

00:21:20.860 even higher net zero

00:21:21.680 energy bills

00:21:22.260 and then teaching

00:21:22.840 primary kids LGBT

00:21:24.180 plus sex ed.

00:21:26.360 I didn't know

00:21:27.220 that wasn't a Green Party.

00:21:28.800 For a second I looked at it,

00:21:29.680 I thought it was their flyer

00:21:30.860 and then I looked at it,

00:21:31.760 it's like,

00:21:32.000 well,

00:21:32.140 it basically is.

00:21:33.080 But that's the point,

00:21:34.560 right?

00:21:34.700 And Jimmy's like,

00:21:35.220 oh,

00:21:35.340 this is such a boring campaign.

00:21:36.980 Drugs,

00:21:37.360 immigrant, 0.89

00:21:37.800 trans,

00:21:38.120 you need some new material.

00:21:38.880 I was like,

00:21:39.340 but Jimmy,

00:21:40.180 this is their campaign platform.

00:21:41.920 I mean,

00:21:42.120 I just did a little thread here.

00:21:43.600 He literally wants

00:21:44.460 to legalize all drugs.

00:21:46.160 They literally want,

00:21:47.780 I mean,

00:21:48.060 look at,

00:21:48.960 the Green Party wants

00:21:50.140 to see a world

00:21:50.720 without borders.

00:21:54.800 No,

00:21:55.300 I'm sorry.

00:21:56.340 Green Party wants

00:21:57.020 a free for all

00:21:57.740 of anarchy,

00:21:58.440 chaos and slaughter.

00:22:00.800 Everyone's on heroin

00:22:01.600 and there's no borders.

00:22:03.060 And of course,

00:22:04.080 they do campaign

00:22:04.900 for the right of self-identification

00:22:06.100 for trans and non-binary people.

00:22:07.560 So if you just identify

00:22:08.700 whatever you like that day,

00:22:10.060 then you are that thing.

00:22:11.500 And so,

00:22:11.860 sorry,

00:22:12.300 Jimmy,

00:22:12.540 it's just,

00:22:13.200 you know,

00:22:13.400 you can say that's boring,

00:22:14.280 but that's literally

00:22:14.820 what you support.

00:22:16.400 That's actually

00:22:17.020 what you're asking for.

00:22:18.420 What happened to the whales

00:22:19.320 and the dolphins?

00:22:20.460 Do you remember

00:22:20.780 when it was green?

00:22:21.840 Yeah,

00:22:22.040 when it was actually

00:22:22.520 the planet.

00:22:23.120 Yeah.

00:22:23.460 It's communist.

00:22:24.320 They never mentioned

00:22:24.820 the climate anymore. 0.98

00:22:25.580 It's gay race communism. 1.00

00:22:26.520 They just mentioned 0.98

00:22:27.100 non-binary legalized drugs.

00:22:28.740 We're all Muslim.

00:22:29.600 Sorry,

00:22:30.060 where are the whales

00:22:30.720 and dolphins?

00:22:31.320 Not even the climate though.

00:22:32.700 Not even the climate.

00:22:33.320 The climate's gone in like,

00:22:34.440 you know,

00:22:34.600 like around 2020,

00:22:35.700 it was like,

00:22:35.920 we're going to have

00:22:36.180 climate lockdowns.

00:22:37.060 It was climate,

00:22:37.600 climate,

00:22:37.860 climate.

00:22:38.160 I never hear about

00:22:38.860 the climate anymore.

00:22:39.560 Can you imagine

00:22:40.040 if you were one of those

00:22:40.720 5% of greens

00:22:41.580 who were like,

00:22:41.960 yeah,

00:22:42.040 I'm just going to

00:22:42.360 save the planet.

00:22:43.160 I'm going to vote green.

00:22:44.140 And suddenly you're like,

00:22:45.100 you know,

00:22:45.480 gay, 0.99

00:22:45.780 Islamo, 1.00

00:22:46.220 leftist, 1.00

00:22:46.840 Muslim nonsense. 1.00

00:22:48.140 You'd be like, 0.99

00:22:48.820 what am I doing here?

00:22:49.760 I was going to say that.

00:22:50.300 I've got a bit of sympathy

00:22:51.220 for that type of

00:22:53.200 probably boomer.

00:22:54.480 Yeah.

00:22:54.700 Might be unfair.

00:22:55.380 There's a lot of young

00:22:55.900 student types.

00:22:56.520 Not a bad type.

00:22:57.580 Yeah,

00:22:58.060 the tree hugger type

00:22:59.180 that genuinely

00:22:59.740 just want to save

00:23:00.500 the planet.

00:23:01.040 They've got endless

00:23:01.620 guilt about the climate.

00:23:04.400 And that they've

00:23:05.040 followed,

00:23:05.800 been in the greens

00:23:06.400 for years and years

00:23:07.120 up till today.

00:23:08.540 What do they think

00:23:10.000 is going on

00:23:10.920 when they see

00:23:11.580 Mothin Ali or something 0.97

00:23:12.440 talk about?

00:23:13.360 Yeah.

00:23:13.760 So we've scrapped the climate.

00:23:14.860 Now it's trans and kids 0.84

00:23:15.760 and Sharia law.

00:23:16.940 Anyway,

00:23:17.280 for the sake of time

00:23:18.080 we've got to

00:23:18.660 accelerate a little bit.

00:23:19.720 So there's various polls

00:23:21.660 that are coming out

00:23:22.140 of Gordon and Denton.

00:23:22.920 You saw a different one

00:23:23.620 this morning.

00:23:24.160 I saw this one

00:23:25.560 that I think the Green Party

00:23:26.820 had been taking

00:23:27.240 basically doorstep

00:23:28.040 information,

00:23:30.480 like who the person

00:23:31.120 says they're going

00:23:31.540 to support.

00:23:32.640 It's pretty close

00:23:33.500 between Reform and Green.

00:23:35.300 But the thing is,

00:23:36.160 I think Reform

00:23:36.860 aren't actually going

00:23:37.640 to be around

00:23:38.040 as long as you think

00:23:39.180 because,

00:23:40.100 well,

00:23:41.220 people aren't that

00:23:41.780 impressed with Reform.

00:23:43.220 I mean,

00:23:43.580 Matt Goodwin

00:23:44.120 had his little

00:23:45.160 Alan Partridge monologue

00:23:46.600 here.

00:23:47.360 Now,

00:23:47.600 I don't dislike Matt.

00:23:48.560 I know a lot of people

00:23:49.360 on this panel

00:23:50.100 dislike Matt.

00:23:51.180 But I don't dislike Matt.

00:23:52.780 But,

00:23:53.580 I mean,

00:23:54.040 when Owen Jones

00:23:54.780 is getting a good own

00:23:55.680 on you on this,

00:23:56.440 don't let Mad Zap

00:23:59.320 hypnotise you

00:24:00.280 into voting Green.

00:24:01.960 They want to legalise

00:24:03.000 all drugs,

00:24:03.920 crack cocaine

00:24:04.660 and heroin.

00:24:05.900 They want open

00:24:06.560 border chaos.

00:24:08.560 Keir Starmer

00:24:09.300 looks like a robot,

00:24:11.400 doesn't understand

00:24:12.280 the British people,

00:24:13.360 vote reform.

00:24:14.760 I mean,

00:24:15.400 that does kind of

00:24:16.200 sound a bit Alan Partridge-y.

00:24:17.540 That's the problem.

00:24:18.380 You know what Nick Buckley

00:24:18.940 said to me?

00:24:19.440 He's running in this area

00:24:20.300 and he'll be accused

00:24:20.800 of splitting the vote

00:24:21.380 but he's actually

00:24:21.940 from the area

00:24:22.540 and he's like,

00:24:23.320 you've got to get rid

00:24:24.220 of that scarf and gloves

00:24:25.420 because he just looks

00:24:26.320 soft like

00:24:26.720 in Manchester

00:24:27.820 they just won't be

00:24:28.820 having it.

00:24:29.300 Yeah,

00:24:29.540 yeah,

00:24:29.840 yeah,

00:24:30.040 yeah.

00:24:30.660 He looks like

00:24:31.200 he's going skiing.

00:24:32.200 Well,

00:24:32.480 just quickly to say

00:24:33.200 the poll you put there,

00:24:33.940 I looked at a couple

00:24:34.800 of polls this morning

00:24:35.600 on the Bo Show

00:24:36.580 and it had,

00:24:38.140 in that particular poll,

00:24:39.780 it had Matt Goodwin

00:24:40.680 and reform way out

00:24:41.820 in front by a few

00:24:42.680 solid points.

00:24:44.180 So,

00:24:44.700 we'll see what happens.

00:24:46.980 I wonder if,

00:24:48.100 I'm sorry,

00:24:48.400 go on.

00:24:48.740 No,

00:24:48.920 no,

00:24:49.000 no,

00:24:49.120 you go ahead.

00:24:50.460 I was just going to say,

00:24:51.280 we'll see whether

00:24:52.080 it works or not.

00:24:53.360 It does look like

00:24:54.020 every poll I've seen,

00:24:55.160 it's not Labour

00:24:56.020 out in front.

00:24:57.200 Whatever it is,

00:24:58.200 it's not Labour.

00:24:59.080 And that's the point.

00:25:00.220 In a normal world,

00:25:00.940 it would be Nick Buckley

00:25:01.640 because he's local.

00:25:02.720 He'd be so good.

00:25:04.240 It's a shame.

00:25:05.180 But yeah,

00:25:05.560 you are right.

00:25:06.240 It's not Labour.

00:25:06.880 But the question is,

00:25:07.820 is reform going to last?

00:25:09.300 Now,

00:25:09.900 Matt posted this

00:25:10.680 with the caption,

00:25:11.580 great pick,

00:25:12.620 because as you can see,

00:25:13.780 it's a,

00:25:13.980 I'm voting Reform UK

00:25:15.080 above a halal shop.

00:25:18.160 You see my tweet,

00:25:18.800 I just said,

00:25:19.340 Reform UK aesthetic.

00:25:21.160 Yeah.

00:25:21.640 Come on,

00:25:22.100 it's perfect.

00:25:22.800 It is,

00:25:23.460 it is actually

00:25:24.220 kind of unbelievable.

00:25:25.860 I mean,

00:25:26.220 the halal pizza shop

00:25:28.260 next to it,

00:25:29.080 but then in the bottom,

00:25:29.780 I mean,

00:25:30.000 you can see all the peeling paint,

00:25:31.840 the fact that the thing,

00:25:32.860 you know,

00:25:33.080 the place looks run down.

00:25:34.960 In the bottom left,

00:25:36.060 you've got the weaves,

00:25:36.640 Black Lady weaves. 1.00

00:25:37.400 Yeah, 0.78

00:25:37.580 you've got the Black Lady weaves 1.00

00:25:38.780 in the barbershop,

00:25:39.940 and then you've got

00:25:40.580 the Hebrew Israelites,

00:25:42.220 I think,

00:25:42.620 the poster in the bottom left there.

00:25:44.020 The thing is,

00:25:44.380 the Matt Goodwin of like

00:25:45.420 a month or two ago

00:25:46.480 could easily have posted

00:25:47.320 that satirically,

00:25:48.260 saying look at this UK

00:25:49.780 YOLK aesthetics,

00:25:51.140 but he's now posting it

00:25:52.120 saying it's good.

00:25:53.440 And it's like,

00:25:53.960 I actually wouldn't want

00:25:55.180 my party's logo

00:25:56.280 attached to that photo.

00:25:58.560 And if your party

00:26:00.360 is the party of that,

00:26:02.740 I actually don't think

00:26:03.720 this is lasting,

00:26:04.620 right?

00:26:04.880 I don't think it really

00:26:06.380 isn't what most people want,

00:26:07.860 what most grassroots

00:26:09.040 Reform people wanted.

00:26:11.340 This is the future

00:26:12.380 that Reform is signing up to.

00:26:14.420 And that's actually,

00:26:15.860 I think,

00:26:16.060 what people thought

00:26:16.800 they were going to destroy.

00:26:18.260 And this is something

00:26:19.980 that Dan Hodges

00:26:20.860 in the Daily Mail

00:26:21.420 is pointing out.

00:26:21.940 Well,

00:26:22.100 I think Farage is blowing it,

00:26:23.980 actually.

00:26:25.120 You'd think Reform's leadership

00:26:26.220 would be straining

00:26:26.780 every sinew and muscle

00:26:27.700 to wrest this solid

00:26:28.580 working class seat

00:26:29.280 from Keir Starmer's grasp,

00:26:30.980 tirelessly pounding down

00:26:32.080 the doors in the wind

00:26:32.840 of the rain

00:26:33.280 to rid the nation

00:26:34.900 of the blight of Starmerism,

00:26:36.100 which means Blairism,

00:26:37.020 basically.

00:26:37.840 Far from it.

00:26:38.540 Two weeks out from polling day,

00:26:39.640 they opted to quaff champagne

00:26:40.660 with a man who was jailed

00:26:41.660 for offering to use

00:26:42.380 the dark web

00:26:42.920 to launder money

00:26:43.600 for drug dealers.

00:26:44.860 On Monday,

00:26:45.380 the bookmakers Ladbrokes

00:26:46.360 announced for the first time

00:26:47.180 since May,

00:26:48.180 Reform is no longer

00:26:49.040 the favourite

00:26:49.400 to win the seat

00:26:50.080 at the next general election.

00:26:51.460 Obviously,

00:26:51.800 the bookies are not

00:26:52.320 the most reliable

00:26:53.280 cephalogists.

00:26:54.900 It's a pretty good indication,

00:26:56.160 though.

00:26:56.820 It costs them money

00:26:57.840 if they're wrong.

00:26:58.460 It's their job.

00:26:58.900 Yeah,

00:26:59.040 it costs them money

00:26:59.740 if they're wrong.

00:27:00.660 They're a straw in the wind

00:27:01.580 and that wind is starting

00:27:02.440 to turn against Farage

00:27:04.160 and his party.

00:27:04.940 And I think everyone's

00:27:05.560 been seeing it.

00:27:07.260 And on the other side,

00:27:08.900 as I began with Rupert Lowe,

00:27:10.360 we'll close with Rupert Lowe,

00:27:11.300 because I think Rupert Lowe

00:27:12.060 is actually something

00:27:14.100 more authentic

00:27:14.860 that the British people want.

00:27:15.900 And he's been getting

00:27:16.360 great press.

00:27:17.480 Now,

00:27:18.320 you wouldn't know

00:27:19.220 that this was great press

00:27:20.120 unless you actually read it.

00:27:21.240 So I'm going to read you

00:27:21.980 just a little bit from it

00:27:22.860 and tell me if you agree

00:27:23.800 with Rob Loney here.

00:27:25.440 Rupert Lowe

00:27:26.160 deals in the politics of return.

00:27:27.880 Illegal immigrants 1.00

00:27:28.420 are going back

00:27:29.040 and so is Britain.

00:27:30.300 The MP of Great Yarmouth,

00:27:31.520 formerly of Reform,

00:27:32.160 has now launched

00:27:32.580 Restore Britain 0.94

00:27:33.140 and Wednesday claimed

00:27:34.140 that it had 70,000 members.

00:27:35.400 The launch announcement

00:27:36.040 was marked with a stirring video

00:27:37.220 of Lowe in his farmer's getup,

00:27:38.720 as well as a series

00:27:39.340 of semi-ironic nationalist videos

00:27:40.880 of Lowe,

00:27:42.020 compilations made by

00:27:43.720 Restore's Zuma foot soldiers.

00:27:45.540 In one of these,

00:27:46.300 among nostalgic nods

00:27:47.320 to Jeff Hurst and Zulu,

00:27:49.020 1997 is invoked

00:27:50.500 as the year when

00:27:51.540 everything started to go wrong.

00:27:53.280 Speaking of grainy images

00:27:54.320 of lost Britain,

00:27:55.200 Lowe sums up

00:27:55.700 his political outlook.

00:27:56.760 I think the state is bad

00:27:57.960 and I think the individual

00:27:58.780 is good.

00:28:00.440 I mean,

00:28:00.880 sold, right?

00:28:01.600 To be fair to Rob,

00:28:03.640 who I've met a couple of times,

00:28:04.580 this article is actually

00:28:05.400 pretty fair

00:28:06.240 and quite good

00:28:07.080 and at the end

00:28:07.840 it's not that anti-Powell.

00:28:10.120 It makes a fair case for Powell.

00:28:11.800 He's just been done over

00:28:12.640 by the headline

00:28:13.300 because presumably

00:28:14.160 Freddie Sayers has said it

00:28:15.100 and gone,

00:28:15.260 ooh, better put a bad headline on that.

00:28:16.840 Exactly.

00:28:17.280 That's why I've got this

00:28:17.920 in the good press section, right?

00:28:20.520 I'm going to read

00:28:21.120 one more paragraph.

00:28:21.980 In his beliefs

00:28:22.520 as well as his rhetoric,

00:28:24.440 Lowe is obviously

00:28:25.020 a more Powell-like figure

00:28:26.340 than Farage.

00:28:27.380 He is more interested

00:28:28.100 in reducing the size

00:28:28.880 of the state,

00:28:29.440 is resistant to reforms

00:28:30.400 and nationalising impulses

00:28:31.480 is less vulnerable

00:28:32.500 than his rival

00:28:34.000 to charges of socialism.

00:28:35.640 In many ways,

00:28:36.360 Restore is the more

00:28:37.440 conservative project

00:28:38.500 given that its central mission

00:28:39.920 is to return Britain 1.00

00:28:40.840 in more explicit terms

00:28:41.960 than Farage's dead

00:28:42.800 to a glorious past

00:28:44.100 from its Blairite present.

00:28:46.820 Again,

00:28:47.340 sold.

00:28:49.140 Take it.

00:28:50.480 So Farage

00:28:51.820 can take on

00:28:52.500 all of the Tories,

00:28:53.580 he can agree

00:28:54.100 to the Blairite structure

00:28:55.240 of the country

00:28:55.900 and as

00:28:57.000 Jemmerich said,

00:28:58.920 well,

00:28:59.060 we're not going to

00:29:00.060 tinker with the

00:29:00.780 independence of the Bank of England

00:29:02.160 or the OBR

00:29:02.780 or the Triple Lock

00:29:03.820 or any of these things

00:29:04.460 that's right.

00:29:04.800 No, no, no.

00:29:05.300 You're a Blairite party.

00:29:07.760 That's fine.

00:29:08.280 He's literally checking his speech

00:29:09.380 with George Osborne.

00:29:10.420 Yeah, literally.

00:29:11.600 You know,

00:29:11.740 when Zeeus is like,

00:29:13.100 yeah,

00:29:13.180 we're going to get rid

00:29:13.700 of the Equalities Act

00:29:14.800 and just replace it

00:29:15.500 with something called

00:29:16.420 something different

00:29:17.300 but keep all of the things

00:29:18.280 the Equality Act does.

00:29:19.340 So, right,

00:29:19.740 so you're a Blairite party,

00:29:21.140 right?

00:29:21.620 And so,

00:29:22.080 that's true.

00:29:22.680 He is much more

00:29:23.480 Powlite in his outlook

00:29:24.880 but that's much more

00:29:26.120 traditionally conservative

00:29:27.600 and Rupert Lodges,

00:29:29.220 there's a lot of,

00:29:30.060 you know,

00:29:30.500 people who are like,

00:29:31.180 ah, right, 1.00

00:29:31.640 so you're an insane, 1.00

00:29:32.660 you know, 1.00

00:29:32.980 right-winger,

00:29:34.060 you're going the way

00:29:34.920 of mid-century general.

00:29:35.640 No, no, no, no.

00:29:36.960 Rupert Post's immigration policy

00:29:38.480 very clearly

00:29:39.040 and he has the

00:29:40.680 100-page deportations policy

00:29:42.200 was get rid of the illegals 1.00

00:29:43.680 and if the legal migrants 0.93

00:29:45.280 who have come here

00:29:46.500 don't work,

00:29:47.420 contribute,

00:29:47.820 speak our language,

00:29:48.420 respect our way of life,

00:29:49.320 they'll be asked to leave.

00:29:50.140 We're going to get

00:29:50.920 net negative immigration

00:29:52.000 because that's what we need

00:29:53.100 and that's as far as that goes.

00:29:55.120 That makes sense.

00:29:56.100 We will not allow

00:29:56.680 millions of foreigners,

00:29:58.340 many from the third world, 0.98

00:29:59.260 to take the piss. 0.81

00:30:00.200 That is a very proper 0.85

00:30:01.660 and decent

00:30:02.920 conservative position

00:30:04.020 and should have been

00:30:04.720 the conservative position

00:30:05.620 of the Conservative Party

00:30:07.160 for the last 30 years plus

00:30:08.640 but it hasn't been

00:30:09.900 and so now

00:30:10.600 this has come to light

00:30:11.720 because it needs to be done

00:30:13.020 and Farage just will not

00:30:14.500 have the backbone

00:30:15.140 to reinforce this.

00:30:17.060 Because the Conservative Party

00:30:18.500 is the most successful

00:30:19.300 political party in Europe,

00:30:20.960 TM,

00:30:21.400 it has all these

00:30:22.100 different parts to it

00:30:22.940 because it's become

00:30:23.980 so bloated.

00:30:24.820 You've got the people

00:30:25.360 Kemi's left with 0.95

00:30:26.120 who are simply not

00:30:27.020 in any way conservative,

00:30:27.860 they are leftist

00:30:28.580 and they're brought in

00:30:29.360 by Cameron's A-list

00:30:30.320 and things like this,

00:30:31.020 diversity hires.

00:30:32.200 Then you've got

00:30:32.660 the careerist Blairite Tories,

00:30:35.580 the generic side

00:30:36.440 and that's what reforms

00:30:37.260 embrace clearly

00:30:38.080 and the slick careerist side.

00:30:39.900 Then you have

00:30:40.420 the actual old Tory side

00:30:41.840 which is represented

00:30:43.000 by Rupert

00:30:43.640 but it doesn't look Tory anymore

00:30:44.960 because the Tories

00:30:46.020 have not been Tory,

00:30:46.960 they've been leftist

00:30:47.740 or Blairite.

00:30:48.620 Yes.

00:30:49.560 This is why I've been

00:30:50.240 describing him

00:30:50.800 as basically a sort of

00:30:51.700 Duke of Wellington figure.

00:30:53.900 Yeah.

00:30:54.160 His political opinions

00:30:55.960 are basically the same

00:30:57.020 I think.

00:30:57.860 So the question is

00:30:58.480 well how's he doing

00:30:59.040 in the polls?

00:30:59.520 Well,

00:31:00.600 oh sorry this was,

00:31:01.560 I forgot to include this,

00:31:02.520 this is a Time article

00:31:03.260 which is another

00:31:04.520 ringing endorsement.

00:31:05.800 Rupert Lowe's new party

00:31:06.580 restore Britain.

00:31:07.460 It's unlikely to poll

00:31:08.160 more than a couple of points

00:31:09.320 but it could prove

00:31:09.940 a kingmaker in some seats.

00:31:11.520 Okay well let's

00:31:12.160 talk about that

00:31:13.480 because a new poll

00:31:14.280 came out yesterday

00:31:15.060 and that's interesting.

00:31:17.800 Reform are down,

00:31:18.840 Greens are down,

00:31:19.580 Conservatives are down,

00:31:20.500 Labour are down

00:31:21.120 but what's up?

00:31:23.200 Other.

00:31:23.980 At 7%?

00:31:26.700 Have you ever seen

00:31:27.880 the other party?

00:31:29.340 The other selection

00:31:31.340 of parties at 7%?

00:31:32.980 And this was done

00:31:34.420 just the other day

00:31:35.560 as well.

00:31:35.900 So this is after

00:31:37.060 the launch announcement

00:31:38.800 and just to be clear

00:31:40.020 if you look at YouGov

00:31:41.720 is like their historic

00:31:44.360 other at 2%,

00:31:47.460 3%,

00:31:48.140 4% maybe

00:31:48.920 but 3, 2, 2.

00:31:50.760 So yeah,

00:31:52.800 that seems that Lowe

00:31:54.280 may well have a good

00:31:55.160 solid 5% in the polls already

00:31:57.000 and that's organically

00:31:58.280 in the polls.

00:31:59.080 That's not a push poll.

00:32:00.460 So the word is absolutely

00:32:02.180 getting out here actually

00:32:03.820 and the betting markets

00:32:05.700 as we said

00:32:06.320 are pretty interesting.

00:32:08.380 So Rupert Lowe

00:32:09.120 is currently at 12-1

00:32:10.920 on bet

00:32:11.680 whatever that is,

00:32:13.360 3, 6, 5.

00:32:14.000 3, 6, 5, yeah.

00:32:14.600 William Hill of him

00:32:15.280 10-1.

00:32:16.320 Wow.

00:32:16.460 And various others

00:32:17.120 14, 12, 10.

00:32:19.480 Like, sorry,

00:32:20.140 these are great odds.

00:32:21.280 That is impressive

00:32:21.880 for someone no one's

00:32:22.760 ever heard of.

00:32:23.380 Apparently, yeah.

00:32:24.540 I mean,

00:32:24.860 Kemi Badenoch is on like

00:32:26.260 20, 22, 25 to 1.

00:32:28.920 So, sorry,

00:32:30.320 the betting markets

00:32:31.100 seem to think

00:32:31.560 now there's some

00:32:32.400 legs to this

00:32:34.300 and apparently

00:32:35.820 the gamblers

00:32:36.360 are all putting

00:32:36.740 their money on.

00:32:37.420 I was just going to say

00:32:38.180 is that's worth

00:32:38.640 putting 20 quid on.

00:32:39.700 A lot of people have

00:32:40.540 because it's just like

00:32:41.500 well, why not?

00:32:42.380 You never know.

00:32:43.600 So anyway,

00:32:44.200 I personally

00:32:45.040 am supporting

00:32:45.960 Restore Britain. 0.85

00:32:47.400 I've joined it.

00:32:48.200 I think you should

00:32:48.740 join it too

00:32:49.180 to be honest

00:32:49.540 because why not?

00:32:50.060 This is the revolution

00:32:50.760 from the right.

00:32:52.000 The left have already,

00:32:53.020 they're well ahead of us

00:32:54.120 with Zach Polanski

00:32:54.960 but what Zach Polanski

00:32:55.900 has shown

00:32:56.320 is that effective

00:32:57.220 social media messaging

00:32:58.140 at the helm of a party

00:32:59.920 actually can

00:33:01.300 change minds now.

00:33:03.280 I joined it on day one

00:33:04.380 when it was a movement

00:33:05.040 so I'm joined anyway,

00:33:06.220 right?

00:33:06.660 I'm automatically

00:33:07.440 meeting.

00:33:08.240 It doesn't seem like

00:33:08.720 I went on to check

00:33:09.780 do you have to like

00:33:10.260 rejoin?

00:33:10.740 It looks like

00:33:11.120 I'm just still joined.

00:33:12.320 Okay.

00:33:12.640 You don't rejoin do you?

00:33:13.820 I have no idea.

00:33:14.880 No, I couldn't see any way

00:33:15.800 because there was no way

00:33:16.880 to like join again

00:33:18.320 so I think I'm a member

00:33:19.660 anyway by joining

00:33:21.000 when it was a movement.

00:33:21.920 Very good.

00:33:22.720 Aim high, vote low,

00:33:23.600 millions must go.

00:33:25.460 Anyway,

00:33:25.940 I hate to say it

00:33:27.040 I'm not going to have time

00:33:27.960 to go through the comments

00:33:28.680 yet but we'll get to them

00:33:29.340 at the end.

00:33:30.040 You're a stickler for the time

00:33:31.020 aren't you?

00:33:31.120 I know.

00:33:31.460 I didn't think

00:33:33.680 that would take so long.

00:33:34.500 Sorry.

00:33:35.540 It's because we've got

00:33:36.300 the banter panel.

00:33:37.240 Xenials Assemble. 0.87

00:33:38.860 The best panel.

00:33:40.380 Everyone says so.

00:33:40.940 I didn't like to say it.

00:33:41.880 It's the dream people.

00:33:42.880 Very people.

00:33:44.380 Alright, so

00:33:45.220 I'm calling this section.

00:33:47.060 My working title is

00:33:47.820 Look Who's Actually

00:33:48.580 Running the Country.

00:33:49.640 Remember those movies?

00:33:50.640 Look Who's Talking?

00:33:51.540 Yes.

00:33:51.860 Simpler times.

00:33:52.500 This is Look Who's

00:33:53.240 Running the Country.

00:33:54.580 That's the only link.

00:33:55.440 There's no babies.

00:33:56.020 Carry on Whitehall.

00:33:57.520 Yeah.

00:33:58.300 Do you mind if I get

00:33:58.780 the old mouse?

00:33:59.620 So this is

00:34:02.500 Antonia Romeo.

00:34:03.980 So what is she?

00:34:05.020 She is the new

00:34:05.700 cabinet secretary.

00:34:06.560 What is the cabinet secretary?

00:34:07.420 Well it's the most

00:34:07.980 senior civil service advisor

00:34:09.140 to the prime minister

00:34:10.180 and cabinet.

00:34:11.180 The previous one

00:34:11.740 was Chris Wormald

00:34:12.680 but he was forced out

00:34:13.740 for having a bad surname

00:34:15.260 and it's incredibly

00:34:17.700 powerful this position.

00:34:18.860 Dominic Cummings

00:34:19.380 has described it

00:34:20.000 as having a hundred times

00:34:21.120 perhaps a thousand times

00:34:22.400 more real power

00:34:23.520 than the average minister.

00:34:24.580 So they are the people

00:34:26.260 running things

00:34:26.800 behind the scenes

00:34:27.540 in the thick of it

00:34:28.520 shouting at feckless

00:34:29.580 MPs.

00:34:31.540 SPADs.

00:34:32.000 Yeah.

00:34:32.220 These are the people.

00:34:33.380 She's the ultimate SPAD. 1.00

00:34:34.400 She's the sort of

00:34:35.000 Power Ranger assembled

00:34:36.440 SPAD ultimate.

00:34:38.300 So of course

00:34:39.800 you want to know

00:34:40.120 who she is.

00:34:40.880 Well she did the

00:34:41.520 classic PPE at Oxford

00:34:42.820 which is a kind of

00:34:43.460 standard route.

00:34:44.280 She got a first

00:34:44.960 to be fair.

00:34:45.640 Everyone said

00:34:46.020 she's very bright.

00:34:47.320 Her particular interests

00:34:48.140 were in game theory

00:34:49.160 and money and banking.

00:34:51.280 So the game theory

00:34:52.280 has popped up again.

00:34:53.100 Very Adam Curtis.

00:34:54.560 I know that

00:34:55.020 Lansky just mentioned it.

00:34:57.080 So yes

00:34:58.180 basically a careerist

00:34:59.460 who's smart

00:35:00.340 and therefore dangerous.

00:35:01.700 This is my take.

00:35:03.260 So the Telegraph

00:35:04.280 Starmer appoints

00:35:05.060 Antonio Romeo's

00:35:05.960 cabinet secretary.

00:35:06.580 There she is.

00:35:07.580 And she's got a 0.99

00:35:08.600 somewhat controversial

00:35:09.340 background.

00:35:10.300 So it says

00:35:11.280 Starmer has announced

00:35:12.000 Antonio Romeo

00:35:13.340 as the head of civil service

00:35:14.620 after weeks in which

00:35:15.700 senior Whitehall

00:35:16.500 Mandarins waged 1.00

00:35:17.140 a bitter briefing war

00:35:18.120 against her appointment

00:35:19.020 while politicians

00:35:19.900 have largely welcomed

00:35:20.720 the appointment of a woman

00:35:21.520 who knows how to get

00:35:22.220 things done.

00:35:22.700 Some former senior

00:35:23.700 civil servants

00:35:24.240 warned the Prime Minister

00:35:24.900 that he was making

00:35:25.460 a mistake.

00:35:26.360 Allies of the first woman

00:35:27.180 to hold the post

00:35:28.000 said that

00:35:29.340 oh they claimed

00:35:31.100 that these allegations

00:35:32.060 were dripping with

00:35:32.700 misogyny.

00:35:33.220 The usual thing

00:35:33.760 it must be misogyny

00:35:35.000 if you're criticising a woman.

00:35:36.160 However historic claims

00:35:37.020 of bullying and misuse

00:35:37.880 of public money

00:35:38.640 of which Dame Antonio

00:35:39.680 was cleared

00:35:40.120 resurfaced

00:35:40.700 an extraordinary attempt

00:35:41.880 to dissuade

00:35:42.380 Sikir from making 0.88

00:35:43.040 the appointment.

00:35:44.160 So I mean

00:35:44.620 this is all the usual thing

00:35:45.400 everyone gets accused

00:35:46.240 of bullying now

00:35:46.920 so I don't really

00:35:47.680 take it that seriously.

00:35:49.320 Starmer really is

00:35:49.840 surrounding himself

00:35:50.340 with women though right?

00:35:51.740 Starmer's forming

00:35:52.400 the girl boss

00:35:53.440 civil service

00:35:55.840 and the head of his

00:35:56.900 what was the

00:35:58.240 chief of staff?

00:35:59.460 Two women as well. 0.95

00:36:00.720 Yes the two women

00:36:01.000 that replaced McSweeney.

00:36:02.120 Yeah.

00:36:02.600 Funny two to do

00:36:03.700 one man's job.

00:36:04.760 Anyway.

00:36:06.220 Well you know why

00:36:06.820 because he's constantly

00:36:07.520 being attacked now

00:36:08.260 about the boys club

00:36:09.260 in Labour.

00:36:09.920 Yeah yeah yeah.

00:36:10.400 It's the big thing

00:36:10.780 they're all saying.

00:36:11.540 So he's like desperate

00:36:12.100 to survive.

00:36:12.520 Break out the girl boss. 1.00

00:36:13.140 Bringing some women

00:36:13.880 yeah yeah.

00:36:14.680 So very very transparent

00:36:15.780 but you know

00:36:17.440 you could say

00:36:17.840 she's qualified with her

00:36:18.860 I'm sure she is.

00:36:20.280 She's not.

00:36:21.180 She was on the list

00:36:21.720 before they went with

00:36:22.480 and then they've

00:36:23.220 gone back to her.

00:36:24.440 So you know

00:36:24.860 it depends who you talk to

00:36:25.560 some people like her

00:36:26.280 some people say

00:36:26.720 she's a bully. 0.99

00:36:28.000 There's also this thing 0.99

00:36:29.100 that it comes

00:36:30.760 despite multiple complaints

00:36:32.100 she acted in an

00:36:32.760 unreasonable degrading

00:36:33.700 demeaning and threatening

00:36:34.500 way towards staff

00:36:35.320 when she was in the

00:36:36.300 UK's Consul General

00:36:37.640 in New York in 2017.

00:36:39.080 To be fair

00:36:39.380 that just sells her to me. 1.00

00:36:40.780 Yeah well exactly.

00:36:41.760 When you heard like

00:36:42.420 yeah to be fair

00:36:43.340 I mean she might be

00:36:43.960 but you look at her

00:36:44.540 I could sort of see her

00:36:45.560 doing it

00:36:45.880 but at the same time

00:36:47.440 you had

00:36:48.380 what's his name

00:36:49.140 the lad who was throwing

00:36:51.200 the bloke who was

00:36:52.080 throwing tomatoes

00:36:52.860 Damien

00:36:53.920 his name's gone

00:36:54.760 out of my head

00:36:55.100 suddenly.

00:36:55.540 I don't know.

00:36:56.140 You remember when he

00:36:56.740 was meant to be

00:36:57.140 throwing mini tomatoes

00:36:59.240 and that was counted

00:37:02.100 as bullying.

00:37:02.940 Oh right okay.

00:37:03.660 Oh well I can't remember

00:37:04.380 his name

00:37:04.660 and it's gone out

00:37:04.980 of my head

00:37:05.260 but Dominic

00:37:06.100 something.

00:37:07.560 Grieve?

00:37:08.380 Rob?

00:37:08.980 Rob.

00:37:09.580 Right.

00:37:09.920 And he was meant

00:37:10.520 to be throwing

00:37:11.040 so you go like

00:37:12.300 my point is

00:37:12.880 Dominic's are there?

00:37:13.700 What counts as bullying?

00:37:14.820 You know what I mean?

00:37:15.260 Pretty Patel was accused

00:37:16.020 of bullying.

00:37:16.620 So yeah that alone

00:37:17.720 won't be disqualifying

00:37:20.320 but it does say

00:37:21.320 an highly unusual move

00:37:22.380 a former civil servant

00:37:23.780 spoke out

00:37:24.380 to urge the Prime Minister

00:37:25.000 to think twice

00:37:25.580 before giving her a job. 0.95

00:37:26.800 Lord MacDonald

00:37:27.480 said that the due diligence

00:37:29.440 had some way to go

00:37:31.380 so some people

00:37:32.480 definitely don't like her.

00:37:33.340 One data point I saw

00:37:34.420 in this morning's papers

00:37:35.580 was that she'd urged

00:37:37.120 earlier on

00:37:37.860 had urged civil servants

00:37:39.280 to join a non-binary book club.

00:37:41.540 Yeah and we're getting to that.

00:37:42.660 Oh okay.

00:37:42.920 I'm just giving the background

00:37:44.000 before we get into it.

00:37:44.760 Oh it gets very

00:37:45.220 I should have said

00:37:45.740 it gets very woke.

00:37:47.520 This is the background

00:37:48.360 before the work.

00:37:49.080 Her nickname is

00:37:49.840 the Queen of Woke. 0.75

00:37:50.620 The Queen of Woke. 0.75

00:37:51.300 Oh really?

00:37:52.040 Yeah.

00:37:52.340 I should have probably said that.

00:37:53.420 Yeah so one member

00:37:54.800 described her as feeling

00:37:55.540 emotionally battered

00:37:56.460 saying she was very demanding

00:37:57.400 very disrespectful

00:37:58.000 very threatening.

00:37:59.660 She was accused

00:38:00.460 I hate members of these teams.

00:38:02.020 That's the thing as well 0.55

00:38:02.780 so it's hard to know.

00:38:03.660 She was accused of

00:38:04.220 claiming £31,000

00:38:05.420 in expenses for accommodation

00:38:06.740 in eight flights

00:38:07.380 between New York and London.

00:38:09.500 So usual things like that

00:38:10.980 you know

00:38:11.300 did you claim too much?

00:38:13.000 A lot of people say

00:38:13.980 some people say anyway

00:38:15.240 that she's only worried

00:38:16.120 about her personal brand

00:38:18.180 that's in here.

00:38:19.460 There's a claim that

00:38:20.500 that's all she cares about

00:38:22.000 is promoting her own

00:38:23.320 personal brand

00:38:24.380 was a quote

00:38:24.900 and just on that

00:38:25.880 she had

00:38:26.900 she had a

00:38:29.140 thing in her office

00:38:30.320 that was a mock-up

00:38:31.760 of Vogue magazine

00:38:32.580 with herself

00:38:33.420 on the cover.

00:38:34.160 Oh no it's another

00:38:35.620 Yvette Cooper

00:38:36.280 where it's like

00:38:36.880 the portrait of themselves

00:38:39.320 looking

00:38:40.540 well catfishy

00:38:42.320 but like

00:38:42.660 A vain

00:38:43.080 a vanity

00:38:43.620 A vanity

00:38:44.300 It's about herself

00:38:45.200 and her career

00:38:45.880 and this is like

00:38:47.400 someone said

00:38:47.940 this is the only thing

00:38:48.620 you need to know

00:38:49.080 about Antonia

00:38:49.760 now her defenders say

00:38:51.860 well it's a harmless thing

00:38:52.860 mocked up by staff

00:38:53.800 after she departed

00:38:55.180 from her past role

00:38:55.760 so take your pick on those

00:38:57.100 I'm very fair

00:38:57.720 I'm off come train

00:38:58.560 One thing I'll say

00:38:59.400 just quickly about bullying

00:39:00.620 and you said

00:39:01.220 you just said in passing there

00:39:02.420 but loads of people

00:39:03.040 get accused of bullying

00:39:03.980 I honestly do think

00:39:05.960 that if you're like

00:39:06.540 the CEO of a company

00:39:07.980 or you're like

00:39:08.740 the cabinet secretary

00:39:09.900 or you're the leader

00:39:11.220 of any big thing

00:39:12.080 you have to have

00:39:12.980 an iron will

00:39:15.160 you can't let people

00:39:17.560 walk all over you

00:39:18.280 you can't

00:39:18.640 because they will

00:39:19.160 if you surround yourself

00:39:20.700 by men of steel

00:39:22.540 women of steel

00:39:23.440 and you're not strong enough

00:39:24.820 you can't meet them

00:39:25.500 you can't lock horns with them

00:39:26.480 then that's no good

00:39:27.180 I would want someone

00:39:28.560 who's extremely strong

00:39:29.740 Yeah

00:39:30.240 fair enough

00:39:31.100 I want to hear

00:39:32.000 the government ministers

00:39:32.820 and spads

00:39:33.980 and you know

00:39:34.860 all the sort of

00:39:35.680 underlings

00:39:36.160 are being bullied

00:39:36.800 to be honest

00:39:37.320 Well unfortunately

00:39:38.260 the problem is

00:39:38.940 what she's bullying people

00:39:39.700 to do if she is bullying them

00:39:40.720 is woke star

00:39:42.020 that's the only problem

00:39:42.860 it's not actually

00:39:44.060 really worth playing

00:39:44.620 but Rupert

00:39:45.460 the only reason I concluded

00:39:46.420 is just to show

00:39:47.080 that he is

00:39:47.800 keep holding these people

00:39:49.040 to account

00:39:49.540 but I don't think

00:39:49.980 it's worth playing

00:39:50.340 because her answer

00:39:50.820 takes so long

00:39:51.380 it doesn't actually

00:39:51.780 go anywhere

00:39:52.140 but he says

00:39:52.760 to a point blank

00:39:53.380 you are known

00:39:53.960 as the queen of woke

00:39:54.900 so I put a clue

00:39:56.140 this just to show

00:39:56.700 that Uncle Rupert

00:39:57.440 got your back

00:39:58.340 but Steve Edgerton

00:40:00.160 breaks it down

00:40:00.680 he breaks down

00:40:01.260 her whole record here

00:40:02.520 so at the home office

00:40:04.000 since 2025

00:40:05.240 more than 65,000

00:40:06.720 illegal migrants 0.94

00:40:08.180 have entered Britain

00:40:08.720 on her watch

00:40:09.560 dubbed the queen of woke

00:40:11.340 at DIT

00:40:11.960 which is the Department

00:40:12.860 for International Trade

00:40:13.680 weekly emails

00:40:14.680 on trans non-binary

00:40:15.820 and bi visibility days

00:40:17.720 and I followed up

00:40:18.860 a bit on this

00:40:19.380 in the Telegraph

00:40:20.200 Starmer's new cabinet

00:40:21.180 secretary

00:40:21.440 made staff join

00:40:22.360 a non-binary book club

00:40:23.760 and it's pretty bad

00:40:25.360 actually

00:40:25.640 the stuff in this

00:40:26.340 it's unbelievably bad

00:40:27.360 so she made them

00:40:30.020 join a gender

00:40:30.640 non-conforming book club

00:40:31.640 as part of their

00:40:32.180 performance review

00:40:33.100 whatever that is

00:40:35.320 she's the kind of mum

00:40:36.360 who's going to

00:40:36.800 trans her children 0.99

00:40:37.720 just to get back

00:40:38.380 at their father

00:40:39.000 yeah

00:40:39.880 well my take on her

00:40:41.100 is that she's

00:40:41.560 you know there's

00:40:42.280 SWATs at school

00:40:42.980 the girls who are SWAT

00:40:43.880 they got the A's

00:40:44.880 because they're in

00:40:45.140 the Gold Star

00:40:45.600 because it was SWAT

00:40:46.240 she to me

00:40:47.300 got her first Oxford

00:40:48.780 so she's smart

00:40:49.680 but in a terrible direction

00:40:51.100 which is

00:40:51.400 do woke stuff

00:40:52.380 she'll do it

00:40:52.940 to the most

00:40:53.520 woke degree

00:40:54.280 because that's

00:40:54.740 what her job is 1.00

00:40:55.240 if you gave her

00:40:55.840 something good to do

00:40:56.540 presumably she'd do that

00:40:57.720 although I suspect

00:40:58.660 she'd always be

00:40:59.580 a sort of very

00:41:00.080 HR driven person

00:41:01.160 because that's just

00:41:01.620 how these people are

00:41:02.700 they're also

00:41:03.200 they're conformists

00:41:04.360 they're the people

00:41:05.000 they look at it

00:41:05.520 and they go

00:41:05.700 how can I use my brain

00:41:06.460 to get ahead in the system

00:41:07.460 but I'm never going to

00:41:08.300 question the system

00:41:09.080 it's that kind of person

00:41:09.980 completely

00:41:10.280 she's a total believer

00:41:11.380 in the system

00:41:11.920 she's some sort of

00:41:12.960 wokeist head girl

00:41:15.400 Karen

00:41:15.820 correct

00:41:16.380 that's not what I want

00:41:17.560 that's my perspective

00:41:18.060 that's not what I want

00:41:18.800 woke head girl

00:41:20.300 I think is exactly

00:41:21.100 the right description

00:41:21.780 yeah exactly

00:41:22.420 these included

00:41:23.580 her helping to

00:41:24.680 raise awareness

00:41:25.120 and visibility

00:41:25.580 of non-binary identities

00:41:26.720 so she did all these 0.97

00:41:27.920 inclusivity programs

00:41:28.800 like that

00:41:29.320 all the kind of stuff

00:41:30.760 we've heard about

00:41:31.380 but these people

00:41:31.860 are running the country

00:41:32.660 you have to understand

00:41:33.300 well yeah

00:41:33.620 and this is the thing

00:41:34.360 about Morgan McSweeney

00:41:35.640 like you know

00:41:36.380 you can say whatever

00:41:37.360 you like about him

00:41:37.940 but at least

00:41:38.440 was kind of like

00:41:39.020 a blue labour type

00:41:40.000 whereas he

00:41:40.920 he clearly kept

00:41:42.560 Starmer's retarded 1.00

00:41:44.200 leftism in check 0.95

00:41:45.200 right

00:41:45.820 and are these people

00:41:47.380 going to keep 0.62

00:41:47.800 Starmer's retarded 1.00

00:41:48.500 leftism in check 0.96

00:41:49.200 no

00:41:49.440 so we're going to

00:41:50.300 see the full spectrum 0.97

00:41:51.480 of Starmer's ridiculousness 0.68

00:41:53.280 coming out very soon 0.86

00:41:54.080 yeah

00:41:54.500 and there's as many

00:41:55.180 of you like

00:41:55.760 of these things

00:41:56.520 I mean she set

00:41:57.240 the employee target

00:41:58.020 of joining the

00:41:58.600 department's

00:41:59.440 gender non-conforming

00:42:00.300 book club

00:42:00.800 but where it gets

00:42:01.820 particularly sinister

00:42:02.420 is the fact that

00:42:03.080 this was her goal

00:42:04.900 and this was how

00:42:06.000 you got ahead

00:42:06.480 other activities

00:42:07.560 are participating

00:42:09.220 in discussion

00:42:09.940 of the non-binary

00:42:10.700 corporate network

00:42:11.700 challenging dated

00:42:12.980 and discriminatory

00:42:13.840 societal gender

00:42:14.780 norms of expression

00:42:15.660 presentation behaviours

00:42:16.940 roles or expectations

00:42:17.840 that reinforce the patriarchy

00:42:19.140 in the year of our law

00:42:20.340 2026

00:42:21.340 this person is in charge

00:42:22.520 of the civil service

00:42:23.340 in our country

00:42:24.020 yeah

00:42:24.760 and it's

00:42:25.180 what was really disturbing

00:42:26.300 is how far

00:42:27.100 according to these people

00:42:27.860 at least

00:42:28.200 things were

00:42:29.340 were based

00:42:30.340 on this

00:42:31.240 so

00:42:31.580 what does it say

00:42:32.300 here we go

00:42:32.620 so the DIT

00:42:33.140 was established

00:42:33.900 department for international trade

00:42:35.260 by Theresa May's

00:42:36.200 administration in 2016

00:42:37.240 yet former members of staff

00:42:38.880 have accused Dame Antonia

00:42:39.980 of being more concerned

00:42:40.860 with the department's

00:42:41.600 stonewall ranking

00:42:42.600 than with promoting

00:42:43.840 UK trade

00:42:44.700 it was her ultimate goal

00:42:45.960 for the department

00:42:46.460 for international trade

00:42:47.320 that we receive a high score

00:42:48.580 from gay rights charity

00:42:49.660 Stonewall

00:42:50.180 as the most inclusive

00:42:51.340 government department

00:42:52.060 for transgender

00:42:52.640 and non-binary people

00:42:53.960 and that's why the conservatives

00:42:54.960 were giving so much money

00:42:55.940 to Stonewall no doubt 1.00

00:42:56.860 yes and non-binary people

00:42:57.920 don't exist by the way

00:42:58.600 a disgruntled former

00:42:59.480 colleague claimed

00:43:00.440 another former member

00:43:02.300 of staff added that

00:43:03.160 Stonewall and Pride Month 0.84

00:43:04.080 were very high

00:43:04.900 on Antonia's agenda

00:43:06.100 why

00:43:06.400 this is their religion

00:43:09.080 this is exactly

00:43:10.000 the sort of person

00:43:10.800 that needs to be cleared out

00:43:11.940 from the civil service

00:43:12.680 at any level

00:43:14.180 let alone

00:43:15.740 but this is their religion

00:43:16.760 she's now running Starmer 0.97

00:43:18.600 she's operating the robot 0.90

00:43:19.720 I mean

00:43:20.380 so

00:43:20.840 she put things on

00:43:22.040 she put things on Twitter

00:43:23.360 X like

00:43:24.080 exciting news

00:43:25.260 TradeGov UK

00:43:26.040 are number 30

00:43:27.020 in Stonewall's

00:43:27.800 top 100 employers list

00:43:29.260 our first time

00:43:30.760 in top 100

00:43:31.560 woo woo woo

00:43:32.480 really proud of the department

00:43:33.840 and our top LGBT network

00:43:35.800 as if that wasn't enough

00:43:37.280 DIT have also made it

00:43:38.340 onto the list of top

00:43:40.020 trans employers 2020

00:43:41.540 didn't even know

00:43:42.360 there was such a list

00:43:43.140 God

00:43:43.480 how are they still here

00:43:44.860 it's incredible isn't it

00:43:45.960 it is incredible

00:43:46.920 that entire world view

00:43:48.160 is insane

00:43:49.580 discredited

00:43:50.640 discredited

00:43:51.160 and you're kind of over it

00:43:52.040 everyone's like

00:43:52.440 Andrew Lloyd in the book

00:43:53.400 The End of Woke

00:43:54.000 everyone

00:43:54.220 you're sort of sick of talking about it

00:43:55.420 it's like

00:43:55.600 aren't we over this

00:43:56.620 but no

00:43:57.100 even Jimmy the Giant

00:43:58.120 is sick of this

00:43:58.900 right right

00:43:59.480 this is all happening

00:44:00.440 still in the bowels

00:44:01.700 of the country

00:44:02.320 so

00:44:02.940 quite disturbing

00:44:04.240 what else have I got on this

00:44:05.320 basically loads of that

00:44:06.180 kind of thing

00:44:06.660 all about

00:44:07.320 but here's a really

00:44:08.240 there's a really bad part

00:44:09.320 as well where it says

00:44:09.920 that it was all about

00:44:11.420 it was all about getting

00:44:13.600 let me just find the quote here

00:44:14.780 it said

00:44:15.440 absolutely

00:44:16.700 where's the bit

00:44:17.600 anyway

00:44:18.080 maybe it's later

00:44:19.020 oh yeah

00:44:19.940 a former Whitehall source

00:44:21.940 claimed that presenting

00:44:22.780 as non-binary

00:44:23.460 or as an ally

00:44:24.120 enabled colleagues

00:44:24.900 to climb very quickly

00:44:26.180 up the career ladder

00:44:26.960 under Dame Antonia's leadership

00:44:28.860 oh and here's a person doing it

00:44:30.240 here's a non-binary person

00:44:31.720 allegedly in an email

00:44:33.080 this was like

00:44:33.800 someone celebrated

00:44:34.900 and it was a blog

00:44:35.720 that went out

00:44:36.280 with loads of nonsense in it

00:44:37.620 but this is

00:44:38.240 all I'm saying Bo 0.90

00:44:38.780 do you want to advance

00:44:40.380 in this company

00:44:41.040 grow my hair long

00:44:42.820 shave the beard off

00:44:43.980 maybe wear a dress

00:44:45.300 I'm just saying

00:44:46.120 a bit of lippy

00:44:46.640 this is so damning

00:44:47.740 a former Whitehall source

00:44:48.780 claimed that presenting

00:44:49.500 as non-binary

00:44:50.160 or as an ally

00:44:50.740 enabled colleagues

00:44:51.560 to climb very quickly

00:44:52.300 up the career ladder

00:44:52.900 I remember thinking

00:44:53.880 at the time

00:44:54.320 we're not getting

00:44:54.900 the skill sets

00:44:55.400 we need to deliver

00:44:56.000 effective trade policy

00:44:57.060 trade policy

00:44:58.000 the Department of International Trade

00:44:59.660 literally the stone toss meme

00:45:01.180 some burgers

00:45:02.080 right right right

00:45:03.860 so you get the idea

00:45:04.980 and back to

00:45:06.080 so back to Steve

00:45:07.160 I'm going through

00:45:07.900 his whole list

00:45:08.300 so that's the queen 0.98

00:45:09.500 of woke trans

00:45:10.160 non-binary stuff

00:45:11.160 senior responsible officer

00:45:12.940 for disastrous

00:45:13.600 MOJ probation

00:45:14.760 privatisation

00:45:15.500 costing hundreds of millions

00:45:16.520 now this is the

00:45:17.380 Ministry of Justice

00:45:18.100 who came up with this scheme

00:45:19.680 essentially to

00:45:21.380 take

00:45:21.880 less severe crimes

00:45:23.380 and outsource them

00:45:24.320 to private companies

00:45:25.460 to rehabilitate people

00:45:26.540 it was an absolute disaster

00:45:27.620 in terms of outcome

00:45:28.320 and in terms of cost

00:45:29.200 so here in the Daily Mail

00:45:30.620 Keir Starmer warned

00:45:31.440 not to rush through

00:45:32.040 the appointment

00:45:32.320 of new cabinet secretary

00:45:33.240 as concerned

00:45:34.040 raise over frontrunner's record

00:45:35.320 including 4 billion

00:45:36.780 pound probation fiasco

00:45:38.800 this was obviously

00:45:39.280 just before she was appointed

00:45:40.360 and if you look at this

00:45:41.680 it's pretty bad

00:45:42.840 I mean

00:45:43.160 there's an article

00:45:44.400 from a while back

00:45:45.360 saying it cost 500 million

00:45:46.360 but they claim

00:45:46.960 4 billion

00:45:48.020 but essentially

00:45:48.920 it was this incredibly

00:45:49.940 wasteful 0.99

00:45:51.440 ridiculous 0.99

00:45:52.120 thing 0.97

00:45:52.760 now it was done

00:45:53.700 by Chris Grayling

00:45:54.680 but the claim

00:45:55.820 is that she didn't

00:45:56.480 push back

00:45:57.040 talking about pushing

00:45:57.800 back

00:45:58.100 and being tough

00:45:58.940 it said

00:45:59.640 she dutifully

00:46:00.200 implemented Chris Grayling's

00:46:01.260 decision

00:46:01.540 but a number of people

00:46:02.240 felt at the time

00:46:02.800 she could have pushed

00:46:03.320 back hard on that

00:46:04.020 she hung around

00:46:04.740 long enough to implement

00:46:05.480 it but not to pick up

00:46:06.560 the pieces

00:46:06.920 as the mess

00:46:07.540 developed

00:46:08.380 so

00:46:09.460 it was

00:46:10.120 catastrophic

00:46:10.860 oh there was also

00:46:12.180 she was also blamed

00:46:12.980 for the Ministry of Justice's

00:46:14.660 catastrophic decision

00:46:15.720 to sign a 10 year lease

00:46:16.620 on HMP Dartmoor

00:46:18.420 costing taxpayers

00:46:19.180 up to 100 million

00:46:20.060 despite knowing the site

00:46:21.280 had levels of

00:46:22.500 radon gas

00:46:23.440 so and the jail's

00:46:24.720 now been closed

00:46:25.720 on safety grounds

00:46:27.340 so you know

00:46:28.640 questionable stuff

00:46:29.560 just questionable

00:46:30.260 record basically

00:46:31.840 on all these things

00:46:33.300 not just the woke stuff

00:46:34.280 but competence grounds

00:46:35.220 civil service gender

00:46:36.740 champion blogged

00:46:37.520 about male allyship

00:46:38.740 supported stonewall

00:46:39.740 campaigns on menopause

00:46:40.820 awareness

00:46:41.200 while leaving MOJ

00:46:42.500 home office department

00:46:43.340 for trade

00:46:44.120 leading sorry

00:46:44.740 accused of bullying

00:46:45.820 which we've covered

00:46:46.600 urged staff to add pronouns

00:46:48.100 watch trans film

00:46:49.020 Seahorse

00:46:49.640 don't know what that is

00:46:50.260 flew the trans flag 0.97

00:46:51.540 over HQ

00:46:52.160 called officials

00:46:53.420 to double down

00:46:54.020 on supporting the BLM

00:46:54.900 agenda

00:46:55.200 that is unforgivable

00:46:56.520 God

00:46:57.420 promoted Guardian articles

00:46:58.600 attacking Brexit

00:46:59.500 literally the most woke

00:47:01.000 you could possibly be

00:47:02.160 she's it

00:47:03.040 I'm getting that impression

00:47:04.320 it's

00:47:04.640 and also comically woke

00:47:05.860 yeah comically woke

00:47:07.360 yeah

00:47:07.520 and just also

00:47:08.500 just leftist

00:47:09.080 like promoting Guardian articles

00:47:10.280 attacking Brexit

00:47:10.960 you may not be in the

00:47:11.620 neutral civil service

00:47:12.820 or maybe

00:47:13.320 I don't know what role

00:47:14.220 she was in at that point

00:47:14.900 but allowed civil servants

00:47:16.520 to attend Tai Chi

00:47:17.500 and calligraphy workshops

00:47:18.380 during office hours

00:47:19.260 well that's normal

00:47:20.040 they've got those here

00:47:20.880 so that's just normal

00:47:22.080 oversaw Brexit

00:47:23.440 trade department

00:47:24.340 delivered mostly

00:47:25.500 roll over EU deals

00:47:27.080 no US deal

00:47:27.960 led MOJ

00:47:29.040 oversaw overcrowded prisons

00:47:30.280 which I mentioned

00:47:30.860 court backlogs

00:47:31.620 mistaken releases

00:47:32.400 spent

00:47:32.720 she might be responsible

00:47:33.640 for Lammy's idea

00:47:34.680 to abolish from Agra Carter

00:47:35.720 yeah maybe

00:47:36.760 spent 31k of taxpayer money

00:47:38.720 on transatlantic flights

00:47:39.520 which we covered

00:47:40.160 so she would now

00:47:41.400 become cabinet secretary

00:47:42.560 this is where I got

00:47:43.560 the thing that Dominic Cummings

00:47:44.660 said it is

00:47:45.300 one of the most powerful positions

00:47:46.560 at least she'll be

00:47:47.720 the first female

00:47:48.380 to do the job

00:47:48.940 of fat media

00:47:49.460 will focus on

00:47:50.040 while ignoring the above

00:47:51.180 thank god

00:47:51.800 and what else do I have

00:47:53.280 patriarchy's over 0.91

00:47:53.880 and the only other thing

00:47:54.640 I have which is

00:47:55.160 Alison Pearson agrees

00:47:56.620 that she's been told

00:47:57.560 she's woker than woke

00:47:58.540 which I think we've proved

00:47:59.400 quite undeniably there

00:48:02.760 what else would she have to do

00:48:04.080 but guess who else loves her 0.69

00:48:05.240 Nadim Zahawi

00:48:06.940 now of reform

00:48:08.220 very weird

00:48:09.160 good appointment

00:48:09.960 why would he say that

00:48:12.220 why would you hire this guy

00:48:13.520 if you're reformed

00:48:14.380 this guy is absolute

00:48:15.700 he's absolute poison for reform

00:48:17.780 he's lost so many supporters

00:48:19.700 of reform

00:48:20.500 because they could go

00:48:21.380 okay Jenwick

00:48:21.960 okay Brabman

00:48:22.600 okay Danny Kruger

00:48:23.500 Nadim Zahawi

00:48:25.140 no one likes Nadim Zahawi

00:48:26.600 Nadim Dari

00:48:27.200 no one likes her 1.00

00:48:28.060 right

00:48:28.600 madness

00:48:29.060 and he's causing

00:48:30.060 a liability already

00:48:30.920 because he's saying

00:48:31.480 good appointment

00:48:32.060 he also

00:48:33.500 I found he can't really

00:48:34.780 link to retweets

00:48:35.520 but he retweeted this as well

00:48:36.860 so he doubled down

00:48:37.860 this congratulations

00:48:38.580 he's all day retweeting

00:48:39.940 stuff about how great she is

00:48:41.020 meanwhile

00:48:41.760 Richard Tice retweeted

00:48:44.560 this from Stephen Edgington

00:48:45.700 so Tice is a completely

00:48:47.300 different argument

00:48:47.980 and then guess what else

00:48:49.460 Zia Yusuf

00:48:50.380 Starmer has appointed

00:48:51.340 Queen of Woke

00:48:52.100 Antonio Romeo

00:48:52.960 to be the most powerful

00:48:53.720 civil servant

00:48:54.200 the embodiment of

00:48:55.200 all that's wrong

00:48:55.980 with the blob

00:48:56.600 at DIT

00:48:57.520 she bombarded staff 0.94

00:48:58.420 with weekly emails

00:48:59.020 pushing Transgender Awareness Week

00:49:00.340 by Visibility Day

00:49:01.380 and even recommended

00:49:01.960 watching films about

00:49:03.160 trans parenthood

00:49:03.960 he talks about all the things

00:49:05.140 we've just covered

00:49:05.720 so Tice and Zia are going 0.98

00:49:07.500 she's terribly woke

00:49:08.180 she was like

00:49:08.480 great appointment

00:49:10.160 notice how Zia's not

00:49:11.240 actually attacking woke here

00:49:12.300 right

00:49:12.520 because he could

00:49:12.960 he should

00:49:13.660 I mean Sweller Braveman

00:49:14.580 has said

00:49:14.860 we're going to get rid

00:49:15.580 of the Equalities Act

00:49:16.320 which is what all of this

00:49:17.260 is predicated on

00:49:18.040 so he could have come out

00:49:19.220 and said

00:49:19.460 yeah well we're just

00:49:20.120 going to literally

00:49:20.600 abolish the laws

00:49:21.980 that enable her

00:49:23.480 to be ideological

00:49:24.600 like this

00:49:25.300 but instead he's like

00:49:26.160 oh we're going to have

00:49:26.740 four billion in cuts

00:49:27.460 to the civil service

00:49:28.160 so that's all staying

00:49:29.320 we're just going to

00:49:30.540 reduce the size

00:49:31.460 of the woke civil service

00:49:32.760 but it's still going to

00:49:33.700 remain woke

00:49:34.400 like what do you

00:49:35.480 why not have the

00:49:36.600 the substantive

00:49:37.380 critique at the very

00:49:38.400 bottom of it

00:49:38.900 that is woke

00:49:39.720 is evil

00:49:40.580 not the amount

00:49:41.940 of woke

00:49:42.340 it's just too much

00:49:43.240 and we're just going to

00:49:43.660 scale that woke back

00:49:44.740 by four billion pounds

00:49:46.040 of cuts

00:49:46.500 right

00:49:47.040 no it's still going to

00:49:48.000 be a woke civil service

00:49:48.800 just smaller

00:49:49.420 but this is a terrible

00:49:50.760 response here

00:49:51.600 yeah you don't think

00:49:53.060 that's implied by

00:49:53.880 what they're going to do

00:49:54.580 people like Danny Kruger

00:49:55.980 you just think

00:49:56.840 they've just over focused

00:49:58.120 on them

00:49:58.420 Danny Kruger is

00:49:59.580 um

00:50:00.080 a person who believes

00:50:01.460 in transnational

00:50:02.220 identities

00:50:02.820 does he

00:50:04.620 yeah yeah

00:50:05.220 he's a civil

00:50:05.680 oh he's a civil

00:50:06.600 yeah

00:50:06.900 that's a transnational

00:50:07.860 yeah yeah true

00:50:08.780 and he wrote the

00:50:09.420 which I said the other

00:50:10.100 day as well

00:50:10.400 he wrote the

00:50:10.820 hugger hoodie speech

00:50:11.860 well I

00:50:12.540 I didn't know that

00:50:14.060 oh no

00:50:14.880 but he's changed a bit

00:50:15.740 since but yeah

00:50:16.380 oh no

00:50:17.080 and they've got James

00:50:18.200 Orr who's great

00:50:19.160 I love James Orr

00:50:19.960 yeah

00:50:20.120 he's the one good

00:50:21.080 thing about reform

00:50:21.700 maybe Danny

00:50:22.680 but I've raced

00:50:24.480 because you were

00:50:24.960 worried about how

00:50:25.440 I blistered through

00:50:26.240 mine too quickly

00:50:27.020 and I've actually

00:50:27.400 ended early

00:50:27.960 so uh

00:50:28.500 that is my uh

00:50:29.860 segment

00:50:30.180 this this whole thing

00:50:31.120 man is just

00:50:31.940 like reform

00:50:32.820 I think are just

00:50:33.520 admitting they're a

00:50:34.300 Blairite party

00:50:34.880 at this point

00:50:35.320 they're just part of

00:50:36.460 the collapsing

00:50:37.020 paradigm

00:50:37.580 I think so

00:50:38.860 and then within that

00:50:39.540 within that

00:50:40.220 Zia 1.00

00:50:40.540 Zia Yusuf

00:50:41.460 whatever you think

00:50:41.840 of him

00:50:42.000 he sometimes

00:50:42.400 comes out

00:50:42.760 with more

00:50:43.100 base stuff

00:50:43.540 but they've got

00:50:43.860 Nadeem Zahawi

00:50:44.580 who should never

00:50:45.240 be in there

00:50:45.840 clearly

00:50:46.260 and then yes

00:50:47.320 like you said

00:50:47.640 they've got

00:50:47.920 Jen Rick checking 0.99

00:50:48.600 his marks

00:50:49.420 with Osborne

00:50:50.040 you've got

00:50:50.780 Sola Bradman

00:50:51.240 who's one of the

00:50:52.020 better ones

00:50:52.400 but her speech

00:50:53.100 at the recent

00:50:54.320 press conference

00:50:54.780 reminded me

00:50:55.440 of just 10 years ago

00:50:56.720 it was

00:50:57.960 I know you

00:50:59.080 got in trouble

00:50:59.780 for having Catherine

00:51:00.320 on and being nice

00:51:01.360 but um

00:51:02.260 Kayla's cool good

00:51:03.560 and it was trans bad 1.00

00:51:04.520 and the audience

00:51:04.960 were like

00:51:05.180 wait

00:51:05.500 sort of boom

00:51:06.000 audience were like

00:51:06.420 so I was like

00:51:07.120 agreed but 10 years ago

00:51:09.040 that's kind of done

00:51:10.920 although as we

00:51:11.580 proved today

00:51:11.920 it's not done

00:51:12.420 but it's like

00:51:13.400 we need to be moving

00:51:14.200 on to talk about

00:51:14.580 immigration

00:51:14.940 but they're very much

00:51:15.620 like hey

00:51:16.040 woke's bad

00:51:16.620 but anyway

00:51:17.580 so

00:51:18.380 shall I read some

00:51:19.280 of these

00:51:19.540 or do you want

00:51:19.960 to read them

00:51:20.220 we'll get to them

00:51:21.200 at the end

00:51:21.500 okay

00:51:21.740 let's talk about

00:51:23.180 aliens

00:51:23.860 okay

00:51:24.860 shall we

00:51:26.840 I need to

00:51:28.460 just move my

00:51:29.240 thing down

00:51:29.800 before we start

00:51:30.460 just get my notes

00:51:32.320 I don't believe it

00:51:33.420 in a row

00:51:34.080 I don't believe it

00:51:35.320 I'm already

00:51:35.900 before we even begin

00:51:36.980 no

00:51:37.560 well it's a mathematical

00:51:38.520 certainty

00:51:38.900 but

00:51:39.120 I believe it

00:51:40.940 I believe you

00:51:41.860 Bob

00:51:42.060 big mathematical

00:51:42.940 certainty

00:51:43.400 we need to talk

00:51:44.920 about aliens

00:51:45.660 today

00:51:46.200 because it's

00:51:47.060 in the news cycle

00:51:47.820 I think because

00:51:48.540 it's a Friday

00:51:49.480 third segment

00:51:50.480 and finally

00:51:51.620 sort of bit of fun

00:51:52.500 really

00:51:52.840 or maybe not

00:51:53.400 maybe it's one of

00:51:54.000 the most serious

00:51:54.480 things in human

00:51:55.840 history

00:51:56.180 bit of fun

00:51:56.860 when Mars Attacks

00:51:57.560 comes down

00:51:58.020 and vaporises

00:51:58.720 Trump

00:51:59.080 yeah

00:51:59.320 the legendary

00:52:01.720 sci-fi author

00:52:03.420 Arthur C. Clarke

00:52:04.300 he did 2001

00:52:05.900 Space Odyssey

00:52:06.540 Childhood's End

00:52:07.540 and a number of

00:52:08.340 things

00:52:08.500 Rendezvous of Rama

00:52:09.220 one of my favourite

00:52:09.800 sci-fi authors

00:52:10.420 of all time

00:52:10.820 he once said

00:52:11.640 that there's two

00:52:12.700 possibilities

00:52:13.300 either we are

00:52:14.380 alone in the

00:52:14.860 universe

00:52:15.160 or we are not

00:52:15.980 both are equally

00:52:17.000 terrifying

00:52:17.680 I don't find

00:52:19.220 being alone

00:52:19.780 terrifying

00:52:20.500 to be honest

00:52:20.940 do you

00:52:21.220 no I see it

00:52:22.000 as opportunity

00:52:22.580 so it's like

00:52:23.400 right so we've

00:52:23.900 got the entire

00:52:24.380 universe to

00:52:24.900 colonise

00:52:25.400 Elon Musk's

00:52:26.440 on it

00:52:26.720 let's go

00:52:27.780 it's not

00:52:28.580 if God's

00:52:29.200 real it's not

00:52:29.720 terrifying

00:52:30.220 at all

00:52:31.700 but if

00:52:32.040 that's the

00:52:32.480 question to

00:52:32.860 me rather

00:52:33.240 than aliens

00:52:33.600 even if it's

00:52:34.180 empty

00:52:34.460 I still don't

00:52:35.420 find that

00:52:35.640 terrifying

00:52:36.020 or just to

00:52:37.460 be completely

00:52:38.260 lost and

00:52:38.960 alone in

00:52:39.420 the entire

00:52:39.840 cosmos

00:52:40.360 what do you

00:52:40.680 mean lost

00:52:41.040 we're living

00:52:41.380 on our

00:52:41.640 planet

00:52:42.300 we are lost

00:52:43.620 somewhere between

00:52:44.320 immensity and

00:52:44.940 eternity aren't we

00:52:45.660 floating through

00:52:46.380 a meaningless

00:52:46.960 cosmos

00:52:47.360 I don't feel

00:52:47.980 lost by that

00:52:48.540 I look at it

00:52:49.500 as opportunity

00:52:50.020 either way

00:52:50.980 we're either

00:52:52.140 alone or

00:52:52.700 we're not

00:52:53.100 that's the

00:52:53.600 question

00:52:54.020 Barack Obama

00:52:55.560 says we're

00:52:56.100 not

00:52:56.380 Barack Obama

00:52:58.360 says aliens

00:52:59.720 are real

00:53:00.140 let's just watch

00:53:00.600 this little clip

00:53:01.940 this guy asks

00:53:02.960 him

00:53:03.200 are aliens

00:53:03.760 real

00:53:04.060 they're real

00:53:06.260 but I haven't

00:53:07.220 seen them

00:53:07.640 and they're

00:53:08.920 not being

00:53:09.320 kept in

00:53:10.060 what is it

00:53:11.360 area 51

00:53:12.400 there's no

00:53:13.720 underground

00:53:14.240 facility

00:53:15.540 unless

00:53:16.660 there's

00:53:17.340 this

00:53:17.920 enormous

00:53:18.600 conspiracy

00:53:19.180 and they

00:53:20.420 they hid it

00:53:21.220 from the

00:53:21.540 president of

00:53:21.940 the united

00:53:22.140 states

00:53:22.480 yeah

00:53:22.820 what

00:53:24.500 they very

00:53:25.040 quickly

00:53:25.520 just very

00:53:26.360 quickly

00:53:26.600 just said

00:53:28.060 yes

00:53:28.180 no

00:53:28.360 no

00:53:28.600 it's real

00:53:29.060 there you

00:53:32.280 go

00:53:32.420 they're

00:53:32.680 real

00:53:32.980 says Obama

00:53:34.420 yeah I saw

00:53:38.460 this clip

00:53:38.780 going around

00:53:39.100 I was like

00:53:39.440 yeah it was

00:53:39.780 funny the way

00:53:40.160 you just

00:53:40.360 chucked that

00:53:40.720 in at the

00:53:41.020 start

00:53:41.320 but Tucker

00:53:41.920 Castle's

00:53:42.280 always saying

00:53:42.600 he's always

00:53:42.860 like no

00:53:43.160 I've spoken

00:53:43.500 to serious

00:53:43.980 people on

00:53:44.420 the inside

00:53:44.720 they're

00:53:44.900 totally

00:53:45.120 real

00:53:45.420 he's

00:53:45.640 always

00:53:45.820 saying

00:53:46.040 they're

00:53:46.180 real

00:53:46.340 so yeah

00:53:47.140 so for

00:53:47.700 any

00:53:47.840 zoomers 1.00

00:53:48.820 who have

00:53:49.380 grown up

00:53:49.780 with the

00:53:49.960 idea that

00:53:50.320 aliens

00:53:50.600 are real

00:53:51.000 right

00:53:51.580 which I

00:53:52.060 think

00:53:52.260 I guess

00:53:52.660 they have

00:53:52.980 because of

00:53:53.300 people like

00:53:53.640 David Icke

00:53:54.160 and stuff

00:53:54.540 like this

00:53:54.920 right

00:53:55.380 when you

00:53:55.760 go back

00:53:55.960 to when

00:53:56.220 we were

00:53:56.560 your age

00:53:57.220 this was 0.99

00:53:57.940 ridiculous 0.85

00:53:58.460 anyone who 1.00

00:53:59.620 said

00:53:59.940 aliens were

00:54:00.860 real

00:54:01.120 was just

00:54:01.780 laughed out

00:54:02.420 of the

00:54:02.640 room

00:54:02.920 never taken

00:54:04.040 seriously

00:54:04.700 and like

00:54:05.460 careers have

00:54:06.220 been ended

00:54:06.800 on people

00:54:07.620 being like

00:54:07.900 no guys

00:54:08.300 I think

00:54:08.540 they are

00:54:08.800 real

00:54:08.940 it's like

00:54:09.400 right

00:54:09.560 okay

00:54:09.760 you're never

00:54:10.100 going to

00:54:10.340 come near

00:54:10.640 us again

00:54:10.960 because you're

00:54:11.300 obviously 1.00

00:54:11.520 a bloody 1.00

00:54:11.940 lunatic 1.00

00:54:12.380 and now

00:54:13.340 you've got

00:54:13.720 Barack

00:54:14.180 Obama

00:54:14.460 it's like

00:54:14.740 oh yeah

00:54:15.060 they're

00:54:15.240 real

00:54:15.440 well over

00:54:16.840 the last

00:54:17.180 two years

00:54:17.640 or more

00:54:18.020 than two

00:54:18.500 years

00:54:19.080 the US

00:54:20.100 military

00:54:20.720 and the

00:54:21.780 Senate

00:54:22.060 and Congress

00:54:22.800 and various

00:54:23.240 sorts of

00:54:23.640 you know

00:54:23.920 the most serious

00:54:24.980 federal bodies

00:54:25.640 there are

00:54:26.180 come out

00:54:26.940 and said

00:54:27.120 for quite a

00:54:27.600 few years

00:54:27.980 now

00:54:28.260 and have

00:54:28.600 said

00:54:28.800 there are

00:54:29.820 unidentified

00:54:30.600 flying objects

00:54:31.660 or unidentified

00:54:33.240 flying phenomenon

00:54:34.300 UAPs

00:54:35.340 they are

00:54:36.480 definitely real

00:54:37.200 they've shown up

00:54:37.780 on all sorts

00:54:38.340 of our ways

00:54:39.300 to measure

00:54:40.060 and record

00:54:41.380 the skies

00:54:42.140 what they are

00:54:43.080 we don't know

00:54:43.640 whether they're

00:54:44.100 from another

00:54:44.640 solar system

00:54:45.320 or whether

00:54:45.840 they're

00:54:46.240 China

00:54:46.720 whether they're

00:54:47.380 part of our

00:54:47.840 own secret

00:54:48.480 programs

00:54:48.960 or they're

00:54:49.260 Chinese or

00:54:49.680 Russian

00:54:49.860 we don't

00:54:50.260 know that

00:54:50.880 but they

00:54:51.580 are there

00:54:52.220 they are

00:54:52.740 real

00:54:53.020 and the

00:54:54.020 US government

00:54:54.580 has been

00:54:54.840 saying that

00:54:55.300 for a couple

00:54:55.800 of years

00:54:56.100 now

00:54:56.240 just completely

00:54:56.700 openly

00:54:57.140 that's when

00:54:59.100 a lot of

00:54:59.360 people went

00:54:59.720 well now

00:55:00.000 I don't

00:55:00.280 believe it

00:55:00.720 yeah

00:55:00.900 the whole

00:55:02.440 angle

00:55:02.740 that

00:55:02.940 everything

00:55:03.320 all of

00:55:03.700 this

00:55:03.940 is a

00:55:04.380 distraction

00:55:04.760 from

00:55:05.240 whatever

00:55:05.960 the

00:55:06.120 Epstein

00:55:06.440 files

00:55:06.860 Ukraine

00:55:07.460 Iran

00:55:08.340 whatever

00:55:08.840 it is

00:55:09.420 it's all

00:55:09.980 just to

00:55:10.740 distract

00:55:11.060 from that

00:55:11.600 do you

00:55:11.820 remember

00:55:11.920 that video

00:55:12.280 a few

00:55:12.620 years ago

00:55:13.120 where the

00:55:13.380 guys

00:55:13.660 the

00:55:13.880 pilots

00:55:14.220 and they

00:55:14.480 just

00:55:14.640 see

00:55:14.840 something

00:55:15.100 move

00:55:15.440 so fast

00:55:16.180 across

00:55:16.400 the sky

00:55:16.800 yeah

00:55:17.060 the

00:55:17.580 tiktok

00:55:18.440 commander

00:55:18.820 fravers

00:55:19.260 tiktok

00:55:19.900 so it's

00:55:25.840 all in

00:55:26.100 the news

00:55:26.340 this is

00:55:26.580 loads of

00:55:26.980 also what

00:55:28.080 happened was

00:55:28.520 Obama said

00:55:29.120 that on

00:55:29.420 Saturday

00:55:29.800 and then

00:55:31.000 people asked

00:55:32.780 Trump

00:55:33.280 Obama just

00:55:34.260 said aliens

00:55:34.800 are real

00:55:35.160 can you

00:55:36.500 get a comment

00:55:37.160 from the

00:55:37.780 aliens

00:55:38.300 can we

00:55:39.260 get a

00:55:39.980 comment

00:55:40.260 from the

00:55:41.140 current

00:55:41.380 president

00:55:41.720 on that

00:55:42.160 they're

00:55:42.440 totally

00:55:42.720 real

00:55:43.040 I've

00:55:43.280 seen

00:55:43.560 them

00:55:43.820 like me

00:55:45.180 he said

00:55:46.100 he's never

00:55:46.480 seen them

00:55:47.000 with his

00:55:48.020 own eyes

00:55:48.500 but he

00:55:49.440 will release

00:55:50.420 loads of

00:55:50.820 documents

00:55:51.260 all about

00:55:51.840 it

00:55:51.980 he'll release

00:55:52.360 all the

00:55:52.720 alien

00:55:53.040 and extra

00:55:53.720 he said

00:55:54.480 that aliens

00:55:54.900 are real

00:55:55.620 he said

00:55:57.060 that with

00:55:57.300 JFK

00:55:57.760 it was

00:55:59.940 only a

00:56:00.260 limited

00:56:00.480 hangout

00:56:02.300 wasn't

00:56:02.560 it

00:56:02.700 it was

00:56:03.080 really

00:56:03.280 a

00:56:03.400 nothing

00:56:03.580 burger

00:56:03.900 said

00:56:04.280 about

00:56:04.480 MLK

00:56:04.900 they did

00:56:05.420 everything

00:56:05.620 they could

00:56:06.260 to make

00:56:06.640 the Epstein

00:56:07.100 thing

00:56:07.380 a limited

00:56:07.820 hangout

00:56:08.200 so a

00:56:08.860 number

00:56:09.040 of times

00:56:09.400 in the

00:56:09.640 past

00:56:09.900 the US

00:56:10.180 government

00:56:10.420 said

00:56:10.680 we'll

00:56:10.940 release

00:56:11.180 files

00:56:11.500 about

00:56:11.780 it

00:56:11.900 about

00:56:12.080 disclosure

00:56:12.600 that's

00:56:13.160 what it's

00:56:13.340 called

00:56:13.520 isn't it

00:56:13.780 disclosure

00:56:14.240 and they

00:56:15.100 never really

00:56:15.760 do

00:56:16.100 and Trump

00:56:16.740 now said

00:56:17.280 it again

00:56:17.660 he was on

00:56:18.220 Joe Rogan

00:56:18.680 once just

00:56:19.040 before he got

00:56:19.460 elected

00:56:19.760 this last

00:56:20.380 time

00:56:20.720 and Joe

00:56:21.300 Rogan

00:56:21.520 asked him

00:56:21.860 about it

00:56:22.140 and he

00:56:22.300 got all

00:56:22.560 a bit

00:56:22.740 cagey

00:56:23.300 Trump

00:56:23.740 did

00:56:23.960 a little

00:56:24.200 bit

00:56:24.360 anyway

00:56:24.600 just

00:56:24.780 like

00:56:24.920 we'll

00:56:25.920 have a

00:56:26.360 look

00:56:26.480 at it

00:56:26.720 it's

00:56:26.860 interesting

00:56:27.220 saying

00:56:27.660 exactly

00:56:27.940 the same

00:56:28.200 things

00:56:28.380 he's

00:56:28.500 saying

00:56:37.820 I would

00:56:40.400 like to

00:56:40.780 invoke

00:56:41.080 my theory

00:56:41.620 of the

00:56:41.880 omni

00:56:42.180 conspiracy

00:56:42.720 in that

00:56:44.200 every

00:56:44.640 conspiracy

00:56:45.080 is actually

00:56:45.540 the same

00:56:46.120 conspiracy

00:56:46.700 and that

00:56:47.540 there will

00:56:47.740 be aliens

00:56:48.260 in the

00:56:48.540 Epstein

00:56:48.780 files

00:56:49.220 and somehow

00:56:49.600 Epstein

00:56:50.000 has been

00:56:50.360 trafficking

00:56:50.740 young girls

00:56:51.200 to aliens

00:56:51.680 that's why

00:56:52.460 Trump got

00:56:53.340 cagey

00:56:54.160 suddenly

00:56:54.560 he's just

00:56:54.920 like

00:56:55.080 well

00:56:55.320 I can't

00:56:56.300 talk about

00:56:56.580 the aliens

00:56:57.160 because

00:56:57.680 then I'd

00:56:58.280 be

00:56:58.360 implicating

00:56:59.720 Epstein

00:57:00.280 is really

00:57:00.660 from

00:57:01.140 Alpha Centauri

00:57:03.000 he's a

00:57:03.700 fixer

00:57:04.140 to aliens

00:57:06.160 for Alpha

00:57:06.560 Centauri

00:57:06.800 presumably

00:57:07.820 you know

00:57:08.480 providing

00:57:08.880 test subjects

00:57:09.680 or something

00:57:09.960 I don't know

00:57:10.340 did you watch

00:57:10.740 the Bob Lazar

00:57:11.440 documentary

00:57:12.100 that's when I

00:57:12.680 got convinced

00:57:13.140 I was like

00:57:13.460 definitely real

00:57:14.460 I was like

00:57:15.480 definitely real 1.00

00:57:16.100 full of shit 1.00

00:57:16.700 so my 1.00

00:57:17.720 opinion on it

00:57:18.620 is that

00:57:20.620 I want to

00:57:22.000 believe

00:57:22.360 I'm open minded

00:57:23.360 almost to the

00:57:24.020 point of fault

00:57:24.740 but I do

00:57:25.680 need 100%

00:57:26.840 proper

00:57:27.280 full slam dunk

00:57:28.840 undeniable

00:57:29.380 evidence

00:57:29.900 before I say

00:57:30.960 that we have

00:57:31.860 been visited

00:57:32.400 by beings

00:57:34.080 from another

00:57:34.580 star system

00:57:35.180 and I'm not

00:57:36.180 there

00:57:36.580 I haven't

00:57:37.140 got that

00:57:37.500 despite the

00:57:38.240 tic-tac

00:57:38.600 and everything

00:57:38.960 I'm not

00:57:39.300 there yet

00:57:39.740 so

00:57:39.940 part of me

00:57:40.640 thinks it's

00:57:40.980 an anti-Christian 0.55

00:57:41.640 psyop and

00:57:42.240 therefore I

00:57:42.680 don't want to

00:57:43.100 get involved

00:57:43.520 but part of

00:57:44.140 me thinks

00:57:44.460 but I'm open

00:57:45.240 to it if it

00:57:45.780 is real

00:57:46.120 so I'm sort

00:57:46.640 of in the

00:57:47.300 way the most

00:57:47.800 logical here

00:57:48.400 I'm the

00:57:48.740 most

00:57:49.340 you don't

00:57:50.360 want to

00:57:50.560 believe

00:57:50.740 and he

00:57:50.920 wants to

00:57:51.280 believe

00:57:51.460 well that's

00:57:52.740 the thing

00:57:52.940 for a start

00:57:53.700 I really

00:57:55.100 enjoy conspiracy

00:57:55.780 theory channels

00:57:56.620 and stuff

00:57:56.940 they're just

00:57:57.280 entertainment

00:57:57.880 it's like

00:57:58.800 oh that's

00:57:59.200 fun

00:57:59.640 flat earth

00:58:00.720 is fun

00:58:01.240 this thing

00:58:01.700 is fun

00:58:02.140 whatever

00:58:02.960 but the

00:58:03.960 second the

00:58:04.320 government

00:58:04.480 comes in

00:58:04.820 and goes

00:58:04.960 yeah ok

00:58:05.300 aliens are real

00:58:05.820 ok stop right 0.96

00:58:07.160 there

00:58:07.360 you're full of

00:58:07.940 it

00:58:08.760 bigfoot is

00:58:10.840 definitely real

00:58:11.320 I've watched

00:58:11.600 bigfoot

00:58:11.940 he's real

00:58:13.200 and obviously

00:58:14.160 9-11

00:58:14.680 detonation

00:58:15.500 but this is

00:58:17.660 the thing

00:58:17.880 I think

00:58:18.360 they're all

00:58:18.620 going to be

00:58:18.900 connected to

00:58:19.520 the same

00:58:19.820 thing

00:58:20.100 but the

00:58:21.900 thing is

00:58:22.240 I'm much

00:58:23.020 more inclined

00:58:23.480 to believe

00:58:23.820 that this

00:58:24.180 is going to

00:58:24.400 be an

00:58:24.880 AI generated

00:58:25.640 psyop

00:58:26.200 than it

00:58:26.940 is to be

00:58:27.760 really aliens

00:58:28.720 from another

00:58:29.060 galaxy or another

00:58:29.720 dimension or

00:58:30.260 whatever

00:58:30.640 you know

00:58:31.600 this thing about

00:58:32.500 not knowing

00:58:32.860 if it's their

00:58:33.220 own weapons

00:58:33.820 or the

00:58:34.580 Chinese

00:58:34.880 the US

00:58:35.640 weapons now

00:58:36.080 they're

00:58:36.260 discombobulated

00:58:36.960 that's either

00:58:38.300 a psyop

00:58:38.840 like propaganda

00:58:40.120 but the

00:58:40.820 weapons are now

00:58:41.320 so advanced

00:58:41.860 that probably

00:58:42.220 if we saw

00:58:42.800 some of the

00:58:43.100 weapons they had

00:58:43.560 they would

00:58:44.080 seem alien

00:58:44.760 right

00:58:45.300 Trump's saying

00:58:45.980 like our

00:58:46.380 weapons

00:58:46.740 we discombobulated

00:58:47.960 like the

00:58:48.880 weapons are

00:58:49.200 meant to be

00:58:49.440 so advanced

00:58:49.800 I'm just

00:58:50.100 saying

00:58:50.320 it could be

00:58:51.220 advanced weapons

00:58:51.900 I don't even

00:58:52.680 know if I

00:58:53.040 agree with

00:58:53.300 that because

00:58:53.640 western science

00:58:55.080 fiction has

00:58:55.840 inspired loads

00:58:56.780 of actual

00:58:57.100 discoveries

00:58:57.560 right

00:58:57.900 so our

00:58:59.040 imaginations

00:58:59.640 have always

00:58:59.960 been long

00:59:00.480 ahead of

00:59:01.140 what we're

00:59:01.660 actually

00:59:01.880 technically

00:59:02.280 capable of

00:59:02.960 so actually

00:59:03.640 I think

00:59:03.960 that like

00:59:04.460 mentally

00:59:04.820 we're kind

00:59:05.300 of prepared

00:59:05.700 for really

00:59:06.300 advanced

00:59:06.720 things

00:59:07.140 and actually

00:59:08.080 technology

00:59:08.560 is kind

00:59:08.960 of underserving

00:59:09.780 the place

00:59:10.820 where I'm

00:59:11.140 we don't

00:59:11.380 see the

00:59:11.760 real

00:59:11.940 technology

00:59:12.400 until you

00:59:12.980 get discombobulated

00:59:13.860 I would say

00:59:14.580 what about

00:59:14.900 taking the

00:59:15.360 angle of

00:59:15.680 less trying

00:59:16.520 to not

00:59:18.180 I'm accusing

00:59:18.780 of being

00:59:19.080 contrarian

00:59:19.560 but less

00:59:20.000 sort of

00:59:20.400 trying to

00:59:20.780 counter

00:59:21.320 just what

00:59:23.140 you think

00:59:23.580 is the

00:59:24.440 narrative

00:59:25.020 that's trying

00:59:25.580 to be spun

00:59:26.220 out to you

00:59:26.800 with good

00:59:27.360 faith or not

00:59:27.900 good faith

00:59:28.120 just is there

00:59:29.060 evidence there

00:59:29.640 or not

00:59:30.400 so for example

00:59:31.200 if there was

00:59:31.800 full

00:59:32.140 just say

00:59:32.640 imagine

00:59:32.960 there was

00:59:33.240 full

00:59:33.480 slam dunk

00:59:34.120 evidence

00:59:34.600 of a

00:59:35.400 flying saucer

00:59:36.040 landing

00:59:36.460 in the

00:59:37.780 middle

00:59:37.980 of

00:59:38.100 Washington

00:59:38.400 D.C.

00:59:38.880 I'm in the

00:59:39.620 middle of

00:59:39.840 getting probed

00:59:40.400 by aliens

00:59:40.960 you would

00:59:41.320 then accept

00:59:42.460 it

00:59:42.760 if you

00:59:43.460 had

00:59:43.640 I mean

00:59:44.620 if Mars

00:59:45.040 attacks

00:59:45.360 aliens

00:59:45.740 popped up 0.68

00:59:46.580 and you

00:59:47.080 know

00:59:47.180 take me

00:59:47.500 to your

00:59:47.760 leader

00:59:48.020 okay

00:59:48.840 fine

00:59:49.340 I mean

00:59:49.620 what am

00:59:49.840 I going

00:59:50.020 to say

00:59:50.220 to that

00:59:50.660 so just

00:59:51.380 a bunch

00:59:52.160 of headlines

00:59:52.600 Trump says

00:59:53.080 he will

00:59:53.300 order the

00:59:53.680 it's all

00:59:54.440 over the

00:59:54.760 news

00:59:55.080 it is all

00:59:55.620 over the

00:59:55.900 news

00:59:56.220 the

00:59:56.840 telegraph

00:59:57.560 oh yeah

00:59:58.520 he accused

00:59:59.120 Obama of

01:00:00.200 making a big

01:00:00.720 mistake

01:00:01.020 that Obama

01:00:01.460 released classified

01:00:02.420 information just

01:00:03.220 by saying yes

01:00:04.600 and that that

01:00:05.220 was a big

01:00:05.540 mistake

01:00:05.920 that's what

01:00:07.240 Trump has

01:00:07.600 been saying

01:00:08.060 don't say

01:00:08.380 that

01:00:08.660 so again

01:00:10.020 it suggests

01:00:10.820 like what

01:00:11.400 why is it

01:00:11.960 that what

01:00:12.260 explain yourself

01:00:14.180 please

01:00:14.600 yeah Trump

01:00:16.520 things are

01:00:17.320 complicated enough

01:00:18.140 without bloody

01:00:18.800 introducing aliens

01:00:19.840 into the mix

01:00:20.540 man

01:00:20.880 just

01:00:21.360 oh

01:00:22.640 that's the one

01:00:23.420 I was talking

01:00:23.760 about

01:00:23.920 I mean

01:00:24.180 as we looked

01:00:24.660 around we

01:00:25.100 noticed we

01:00:25.520 saw some

01:00:25.960 white water

01:00:26.400 I'll just

01:00:27.020 say this is

01:00:27.420 commander

01:00:27.800 favor

01:00:28.300 he was

01:00:30.460 flying an

01:00:31.120 F-18

01:00:31.720 off the

01:00:32.820 west coast

01:00:34.120 of America

01:00:34.760 off our

01:00:35.400 right side

01:00:35.940 it's important

01:00:36.460 to note

01:00:36.780 the weather

01:00:37.180 on this day

01:00:37.840 was as close

01:00:38.460 to perfect

01:00:38.880 as you could

01:00:39.320 ask for

01:00:39.660 off the coast

01:00:40.060 of San Diego

01:00:40.640 clear skies

01:00:41.360 light winds

01:00:41.940 calm seas

01:00:42.540 no white 1.00

01:00:43.000 caps from

01:00:43.400 waves

01:00:43.680 so the

01:00:44.020 white water

01:00:44.400 stood out

01:00:44.880 in a large

01:00:45.260 blue ocean

01:00:45.840 all four of us

01:00:46.620 because we

01:00:46.840 were an F-18F

01:00:47.580 so we had

01:00:47.960 pilots and

01:00:48.460 wizzo in the

01:00:48.900 back seat

01:00:49.340 looked down

01:00:49.840 a small

01:00:50.200 saw a white

01:00:50.800 tic-tac

01:00:51.280 object with

01:00:51.840 a longitudinal

01:00:52.340 axis pointing

01:00:53.220 north-south

01:00:53.860 and moving

01:00:54.240 very abruptly

01:00:54.880 over the water

01:00:55.660 like a ping-pong

01:00:56.440 ball

01:00:56.700 there were no

01:00:57.120 rotors

01:00:57.620 no rotor

01:00:58.180 wash

01:00:58.700 or any sign

01:01:04.120 we decided

01:01:04.200 to go down

01:01:04.680 and take

01:01:04.980 a closer look

01:01:05.580 with the

01:01:05.800 other aircraft

01:01:06.320 staying in

01:01:06.760 high cover

01:01:07.160 to observe

01:01:07.580 both us

01:01:08.040 and the

01:01:08.320 tic-tac

01:01:08.640 we proceeded

01:01:09.180 around the

01:01:09.600 circle

01:01:09.820 about 90

01:01:10.380 degrees

01:01:10.720 from the

01:01:11.040 start of

01:01:11.320 our descent

01:01:11.780 object

01:01:12.060 suddenly

01:01:12.500 shifted

01:01:13.020 its

01:01:13.240 longitudinal

01:01:13.820 axis

01:01:14.400 aligned

01:01:14.840 it

01:01:14.960 with

01:01:15.060 my

01:01:15.220 aircraft

01:01:15.720 and

01:01:15.980 began

01:01:16.400 to

01:01:16.660 climb

01:01:17.040 our

01:01:17.320 altitude

01:01:17.600 at this

01:01:17.900 point

01:01:18.080 was

01:01:18.180 about

01:01:18.300 15,000

01:01:18.980 feet

01:01:19.200 and

01:01:19.280 the

01:01:19.400 tic-tac

01:01:19.720 was

01:01:19.860 about

01:01:20.020 12,000

01:01:20.660 as we

01:01:20.960 pulled

01:01:21.140 nose

01:01:21.360 onto

01:01:21.540 the

01:01:21.680 object

01:01:21.980 within

01:01:22.200 about

01:01:22.400 a half

01:01:22.700 mile

01:01:22.980 of it

01:01:23.260 it

01:01:23.400 rapidly

01:01:23.700 accelerated

01:01:24.280 in front

01:01:24.620 of us

01:01:24.840 and

01:01:24.960 disappeared

01:01:25.420 our

01:01:25.720 wingmen

01:01:26.140 roughly

01:01:26.520 8,000

01:01:26.960 feet

01:01:27.120 above

01:01:27.340 us

01:01:27.540 lost

01:01:27.780 contact

01:01:28.260 also

01:01:28.600 we

01:01:28.840 immediately

01:01:29.080 turned

01:01:29.400 back

01:01:29.700 to see

01:01:30.000 where the

01:01:30.200 whitewater

01:01:30.580 was at

01:01:30.920 and it

01:01:31.080 was gone

01:01:31.460 also

01:01:31.760 as we

01:01:32.140 looked

01:01:32.320 around

01:01:32.600 we noticed

01:01:32.960 we saw

01:01:33.420 so

01:01:34.260 so that

01:01:36.800 the

01:01:37.140 tic-tac

01:01:37.500 incident

01:01:37.920 is something

01:01:38.580 for me

01:01:39.260 that comes

01:01:39.840 close

01:01:40.400 to

01:01:41.360 full

01:01:43.000 evidence

01:01:43.520 because

01:01:44.040 you'd

01:01:44.260 have to

01:01:44.500 assume

01:01:44.780 that

01:01:45.000 I think

01:01:45.880 three

01:01:46.280 different

01:01:46.720 ways

01:01:47.160 of

01:01:47.460 seeing

01:01:48.160 it

01:01:48.380 and

01:01:48.540 measuring

01:01:48.840 it

01:01:49.080 was

01:01:49.280 done

01:01:49.540 from

01:01:49.940 the

01:01:50.420 aircraft

01:01:50.780 carrier

01:01:51.200 and

01:01:52.060 multiple

01:01:52.820 fast jet

01:01:53.340 pilots

01:01:53.740 who are

01:01:54.040 good

01:01:54.220 witnesses

01:01:54.600 all say

01:01:55.100 they saw

01:01:55.520 it

01:01:55.720 and there

01:01:56.180 was one

01:01:56.400 little bit

01:01:56.720 in there

01:01:56.940 where it

01:01:57.120 said

01:01:57.240 it

01:01:57.420 disappeared

01:01:57.820 off into

01:01:58.200 the

01:01:58.320 distance

01:01:58.600 quickly

01:01:58.880 I mean

01:01:59.140 way

01:01:59.680 quicker

01:02:00.000 than

01:02:00.220 any

01:02:00.520 conventional

01:02:00.900 craft

01:02:01.200 we know

01:02:01.600 of

01:02:01.740 could

01:02:01.880 have

01:02:01.980 done

01:02:02.160 so

01:02:02.380 either

01:02:03.040 all

01:02:03.360 those

01:02:03.560 instruments

01:02:03.980 were

01:02:04.640 faulty

01:02:05.620 and

01:02:06.380 you can't

01:02:07.160 believe

01:02:07.380 the

01:02:07.540 testimony

01:02:07.840 of the

01:02:08.220 fast jet

01:02:08.560 pilots

01:02:08.980 yeah

01:02:09.700 I haven't

01:02:10.000 seen

01:02:10.160 that

01:02:10.340 I'd

01:02:10.960 seen

01:02:11.080 the

01:02:11.200 original

01:02:11.460 we can

01:02:11.760 hear

01:02:11.880 them

01:02:12.020 talking

01:02:12.320 in

01:02:12.540 the 1.00

01:02:12.660 crap 1.00

01:02:12.900 and 1.00

01:02:13.020 they're

01:02:13.080 going

01:02:13.180 whoa

01:02:13.420 what's

01:02:13.700 that

01:02:14.080 and it

01:02:14.540 it seemed

01:02:15.140 incredibly

01:02:15.660 oh there it is

01:02:16.520 it seemed

01:02:16.740 incredibly

01:02:17.140 realistic

01:02:17.960 let's also

01:02:18.280 say this

01:02:18.460 it's only

01:02:18.680 30 seconds

01:02:19.300 let's quickly

01:02:19.880 let's quickly

01:02:21.100 watch it

01:02:21.660 now some

01:02:22.440 say

01:02:22.660 I didn't

01:02:22.920 know it had a

01:02:23.240 whole name

01:02:23.620 I didn't

01:02:24.200 know the

01:02:24.680 tick tock

01:02:25.140 tickle 0.99

01:02:34.680 tickle 0.99

01:02:34.960 six

01:02:35.240 one

01:02:35.820 okay

01:02:37.520 oh my gosh

01:02:38.040 dude

01:02:38.680 wow

01:02:39.680 okay

01:02:52.520 wow

01:02:52.980 look at

01:02:53.760 all right so a few things say about that before we talk about it is that one

01:02:58.880 well i think it's being viewed from a long way away first of all it looks like it's moving very

01:03:03.540 very fast across the surface of the ocean but that could be parallax well that's the thing

01:03:08.700 the whole perspective of it is odd and there's this this the thing of parallax isn't it with

01:03:12.080 different uh i mean like someone like thunderfoot blunderfoot um says that that's obviously a bird

01:03:19.380 that's obviously just a bird flying and you must be out of your mind to think it's anything from

01:03:25.060 another world i mean maybe maybe maybe not i think pilots will be used to seeing birds right i don't

01:03:31.540 think it's a bird but i'm not saying it's a thing from another world right depends if china counts

01:03:35.920 as another world um so chinese weapons is the one is the most disturbing so as much as i want to 0.97

01:03:41.620 believe i still maintain i need something even better than even that yeah i need something better

01:03:46.620 than just commander favor saying he saw it i'm afraid i mean i've i've i've written like watched

01:03:52.120 podcasts on practically every ufo encounter you can imagine right and the roswell one was honestly

01:03:59.000 one of the most persuasive because some farmer came out and was like oh look there's a big trail of

01:04:03.520 debris here picked up a bunch of the piece of metal and just like that you know they bent and they

01:04:07.640 were springy and you know you could fold them up and then they just spring back perfectly in shape

01:04:11.740 it's like okay we don't have materials that can do that actually so he's got like all these weird

01:04:15.040 materials and he's like oh yeah and i saw these bodies i was like and then the military just turned

01:04:18.020 up and the thing is initially it was reported in the papers because it was in like 1947 or something

01:04:22.960 and then suddenly the narrative changes completely and it's like no nothing happened it was a weather

01:04:27.460 balloon and so it's just like right how do you feel about the it's humans in the future who

01:04:32.080 evolved i like time traveling i i they're more persuasive than it's someone from the other side of

01:04:37.020 the galaxy frankly that's quite persuasive um so not aliens no well you know they're future humans

01:04:43.680 who've learned time travel and that's why they've got bigger brains and big fingers and stuff like

01:04:47.000 that that's why they're not hostile yeah yeah then i have one of the three i've forgotten this popped

01:04:51.360 out my head so carry on and i'll remember there's lots of arguments to say why it isn't visitors from

01:04:57.520 another star system and there are plenty and plenty of arguments for that but i just remain open-minded

01:05:02.760 to it the thing is that the united states government has again over the last few i mean look this is back

01:05:07.600 from 2023 number of just a number of articles i've got here that just um they just they're doing

01:05:13.520 like some sort of slow burn disclosure it seems say what about the idea they're in a different realm

01:05:19.020 like the clockwork elves you can't work elves i don't know what clockwork is you know about the

01:05:23.780 clockwork elves yeah you're not seeing the clockwork elves i don't know that alex jones thing yeah

01:05:27.720 yeah yeah maybe we'll take dmt which i would never would just oh right they see the clockwork elves

01:05:33.360 yeah there's different levels there's these higher ones there's the higher ones and then there's the

01:05:37.280 lower ones which are the clockwork elves who are not maybe like that nice and you see them you don't

01:05:41.080 really want to see them not very friendly no and but people see them lots of different people have

01:05:44.900 seen them on dmt so they're they're real but they're just in a different dimension we can't access

01:05:48.720 normally right okay i'm i'm not into drug use no i would like to visit joe rogan and and do dmt in a

01:05:56.720 flotation tank with him and share that experience that would be nice joe hit me up i'd love to do that

01:06:01.760 that's on my bucket list what if you saw the clockwork elves uh i don't know but you mentioned

01:06:06.680 david ike didn't you that like the interdimensional lizard people i didn't mention david ike i thought

01:06:11.140 i mentioned okay all right but the thing is is that the actual federal government like the ufo

01:06:16.300 transparency hearings they've had and the the whole uh yeah uh all right and there's this the the

01:06:24.820 concept really of the disclosure project or disclosure movement um that the thing is a lot of

01:06:30.980 extremely credible very very very high level people over many many years people that are like

01:06:37.780 admirals have come out and people like barack obama have come out and said yeah it's there's

01:06:43.900 stuff out there and we don't know what it is it's not necessarily from another star system

01:06:46.820 but there's stuff in our skies and the oceans and we've got no idea what it is that's a matter of

01:06:52.240 record yes i mean the these what's really interesting about they have these ufo conferences

01:06:57.000 around they've been having them for decades yeah robert williams goes to them and then yeah and

01:07:00.940 yeah and so did dan akroyd he was a massive one of these and it's but they're really boring and

01:07:05.900 they're really badly recorded because so you know it's in some you know a big room you know like a

01:07:11.900 ballroom hall or something and you'll get some very normal looking guy and he'll come up and say

01:07:17.380 hello my name is commander david smith and i have a degree in molecular biology i have a degree in

01:07:24.500 nuclear physics and a phd in experimental physics i was an airplane pilot for 30 years and i saw this

01:07:30.520 this this this this this this it's really really boring and everyone give polite golf claps and

01:07:35.480 that's it and it's like is he a non-credible witness am i going like oh there's oh look he's

01:07:40.260 a raving lunatic what is it about ufo people and bad recordings yeah i can't just get it's like 0.58

01:07:44.500 hunting you know but it's but these these these conferences i've watched loads of them they go for

01:07:50.000 hours and they're really boring but they're that boring if you watch fascinating usually no no

01:07:55.480 they're really boring and but but but it's because i'm not bored by the content right i'm interested in

01:08:01.860 knowing okay what was this you know pilot's exact experience what was this navy you know i commanded

01:08:07.500 it i was in the admiral of the fleet or whatever and this is what i saw it's like okay you know the

01:08:11.980 way they present the information is very boring but the information itself i'm trying to actually

01:08:15.120 figure out why i shouldn't take these people seriously because they are very well credentialed

01:08:19.760 that's what tucker said he goes i've known some serious military people they tell me it's

01:08:23.300 real he's described some things they've seen so when tucker said that i was like all right more

01:08:28.460 evidence i'm fairly convinced the weird thing is it doesn't make that much difference to your life

01:08:32.040 i watched bob lazar i was like that's real that doesn't mean anything you still just carry on

01:08:35.540 now immigration problem still gotta go to work on monday pay my taxes kind of weird it doesn't

01:08:40.780 change lately yeah well what choice have you got really though i mean exactly i mean what i love

01:08:46.840 about this though adherence to the disclosure movement have variously predicted that barack

01:08:49.860 obama hillary clinton joe biden donald trump or pope lee are on the verge of initiating disclosure

01:08:53.860 well you can change that wikipedia page to they have correctly predicted that obama and trump

01:09:00.920 have initiated disclosure because i mean literally obama and trump are just like yeah aliens are real

01:09:06.120 like chalk this up as a win that to me yeah yeah has disclosure happened it sounds like it's kind

01:09:13.780 of happened hasn't it that's what they're saying yeah obama and trump big mistake yeah maybe a slight

01:09:21.400 tangent but to me i don't know if you watch near-death experiences to me they're far more

01:09:24.780 important because if it seems as though people they're completely their brain dead their body's

01:09:29.500 been shut down for you know like 47 minutes they but they can move around they can go they go to

01:09:35.100 heaven quite a lot of them they can see their own body things like near-death experiences are

01:09:38.980 unbelievable like the the amount of data and so many people have similar experiences they have life

01:09:43.460 reviews where they go through their whole life and things they did right and wrong and there's so many

01:09:47.260 similar accounts of people who couldn't possibly have brain activity and they're so similar to me

01:09:52.920 that's like it's not just cranks i was like this is this is a serious thing and presumably some people

01:09:58.080 had this experience in the past but no way near as because of technology we can actually find out oh

01:10:02.740 you're dead but you carry on to me that's the most significant thing but everyone's obsessed 0.69

01:10:06.940 with aliens but to me that's more stupid because if that's true then your spirit carries on after 0.99

01:10:11.100 death that's pretty big deal well one argument i would have a segment on it yeah there's so many 0.99

01:10:16.800 arguments to be made why we haven't been visited by uh advanced civilizations from other star systems

01:10:22.920 okay there's loads like loads of it that even the footage we've got it's just a bird and it's just

01:10:28.240 the odd parallax effect and but there is a couple of arguments sort of broader maybe more meta

01:10:33.560 arguments the idea that if the universe if the cosmos is infinite that that it becomes a mathematical

01:10:39.620 certainty that there are advanced civilizations somewhere else even possibly quite possibly in

01:10:44.660 our own galaxy certainly in other galaxies and then another argument which gives i put a lot of weight

01:10:50.660 in is that throughout human history or at least recorded human civilization people have always

01:10:57.160 thought that there's nothing sort of much beyond them you know you get aboriginal peoples and they 1.00

01:11:02.600 often think they're the only people in the world until they're until they shown that they're not

01:11:08.440 and that we think that there's there's no other continents in the world until we find out there

01:11:12.900 are and it's filled with people whenever our horizons broaden before strike rather before our horizons

01:11:18.720 broaden we think we're alone and then whenever they broaden we realize we're not

01:11:23.080 just take that to like a cosmic level onto a galactic or intergalactic level

01:11:28.260 i don't know i still i still do just need some full completely undeniable evidence you want to see

01:11:36.300 one of the little blokes well i'm going to need to yeah i'm going to need to we're going to have to

01:11:40.740 hang around the deep south more or around groom lake so the nevada yeah there's that's a great point

01:11:47.760 actually there are maps of ufo sightings because if this was the was the case why would it be

01:11:52.720 culturally specific right so you you have maps of ufo sightings and they begin in a particular time

01:11:58.980 period and in particular places so you've got like areas of the world that just never get any ufo

01:12:04.860 sightings and have never had them and area the areas of the world that do have them it's very

01:12:09.600 culturally tuned to modernity right you have loads in phoenix arizona yeah and none in siberia

01:12:14.740 or something exactly exactly i've seen him and so actually it takes on the aspect of a kind of

01:12:21.700 modern mythology rather than necessarily a true phenomenon right and i mean you know you're

01:12:28.820 relying on the eyewitness reports of people who literally don't know anything a lot of the time

01:12:32.320 so it's just like okay i mean like the eyewitness testimony to go back to fravor again the eyewitness

01:12:38.260 testimony of that it's hard to discount i'm not saying just say he's just a liar he's doing i'm not

01:12:42.620 saying but some people do it's like he's just lying you can't he's just making up for clout

01:12:47.820 to be famous i don't think so nothing indicates that nothing right here's my question but it's

01:12:54.020 more of a lazar question how desperate to see aliens are you would you accept them molesting you with the 0.87

01:13:00.120 probe and everything but then you got proof but you've been probed i would have to accept that

01:13:06.760 wouldn't i like how much do you want to see them oh oh i see what you're saying is it worth it

01:13:11.940 no no i'll go on living as i am thank you are you really going to tell people yeah i got probed by

01:13:17.640 aliens though so if that happens to me i'm like i think i'm just going to keep that to myself yeah

01:13:21.720 it's not you know right yeah i just don't i just don't want to be that's why that's why you don't

01:13:26.480 see them in england we're too sensible we go oh that's probably nothing i probably just there are

01:13:30.140 what is he saying are there but less than the american deep south rendersham forest examples yeah

01:13:34.460 rendersham forest is my theory is it would happen less because one like like scrooge would just say

01:13:39.160 that you're probably just a bit of undigested potato or something you dismiss it and then the other

01:13:43.660 thing would probably say is oh i'm not telling i know about that probe because i'm english and then

01:13:47.660 the problem i have with all this is you get into okay the implications are kind of catastrophic

01:13:52.720 because suddenly it's like okay well oh aliens exist well then they're going to have their own

01:13:57.200 philosophies religions or maybe they're the same thing but there's also going to be some sort of

01:14:01.820 intergalactic politics that go on there's going to be all sorts of levels of uh understanding of

01:14:09.120 the universe that we don't understand but will have in the same way that the amazonian aboriginals 1.00

01:14:14.360 are impacted by our technology well that's going to happen to us and we're going to be struggling

01:14:18.880 with whatever new discoveries we have they're going to just completely change everything i'm just like

01:14:24.260 oh man you're worried that they're going to be leftists with like i'm not i'm not worried about

01:14:27.900 i i no no no i'm not worried about that at all i'm i'm worried that we will learn something from

01:14:33.000 them that basically uh just destroys our civilization frankly it ruins everything like

01:14:37.860 or that maybe i don't know it could be it could be literally anything but i am a bit worried of just

01:14:45.300 oh here's like actually like when like with the people in the new new world like they they know

01:14:51.500 how things are and then suddenly the spanish conquistadors turn up well everything changes then it's

01:14:55.820 right so actually you're in the middle of a great power game of international empires that are far

01:15:01.340 more powerful than you and everything's about to change and maybe millions of you die so like

01:15:06.380 i just don't really want to discover aliens for the pragmatic reasons it may it may well not go

01:15:11.740 well i mean i've watched films i've just paid my taxes man i don't want aliens not this

01:15:17.020 in the history of human civilization the weaker of the powers it never works out very well for them

01:15:24.540 exactly well there's the idea the fermi paradox we look out onto the cosmos unless we've got the

01:15:28.420 intergalactic what if they're stronger what if they're rubbish aliens they somehow visit us but

01:15:31.860 they're kind of literally the italians of the we've got better technology we're the ethiopians and we

01:15:36.320 just beat them yeah well they come from a much bigger planet with much higher gravity so they're

01:15:40.480 only that big yeah um yeah like the fermi paradox we look out on the cosmos and it appears to be empty

01:15:46.660 yes what explains that really and there's a number there's a dozens of different explanations for

01:15:50.860 that one might be the one i sort of think is that there's like the zoo hypothesis that they see us

01:15:56.880 and they deliberately keep us just in our own little cage and just observe us because that's

01:16:01.480 the best for them and us i mean honestly that's the most optimistic right yeah right because there

01:16:06.700 are the really dark versions like the dark forest hypothesis right yeah anyone who sends out signals

01:16:12.200 into space just gets eaten by the tyranids or something and it's just like so everyone just shuts

01:16:16.380 up and make sure they don't keep broadcasting their location to other people so it's just like okay

01:16:21.180 i mean it could be that we've already got a 60 70 year bubble of radio going out from the earth

01:16:27.020 so that's already might literally be on its way now and obama's like yeah aliens are real i haven't

01:16:32.500 seen it's all because people became godless that's the problem they're looking for meaning in the in

01:16:35.620 the wrong places it's kind of annoying to me because it's like you haven't solved these much bigger

01:16:39.960 these much more important questions whether god is real not whether aliens are real it's it's

01:16:43.760 secondary to me but hey i suppose it would change everything that's great but i just don't want

01:16:47.400 aliens man i can tolerate god being real yeah aliens no thanks i'm just an evidence guy if

01:16:52.280 there's no evidence i'll remain skeptical and won't go on record saying i think aliens from other

01:16:58.020 worlds have definitely visited us i'm not going to say that well when there is clip that now and it

01:17:01.820 looks like but if and when there is when you're probed i will accept you will admit it yeah right

01:17:07.440 all i'm saying is i want this wikipedia page updated so you've got all of these people and also

01:17:12.620 donald trump and barack obama if i'm saying it was a big mistake so funny he shouldn't have said

01:17:16.840 there's big mistake state secrets i feel like i do i am kind of of the theory that because the way

01:17:21.900 the president always changes as soon as they get in okay partly it's the reality of power but i do

01:17:25.520 think they get the conversation and they they're shown horrific things or just crazy things they're

01:17:30.840 showing the aliens they're showing everything like bill hicks said yeah like exactly like bill hicks

01:17:34.440 said i wasn't going to say exactly what i'm thinking he's like that's what i think happens and so

01:17:38.020 that's why trump gets in we'll get the jfk files and they show him it and he goes

01:17:41.200 like bill hicks always has a different angle you haven't seen they show them the aliens they go

01:17:45.620 but you can't talk about it because of x y and so well i told a little anecdote this morning i'll say

01:17:50.100 again about um jimmy carter in the 70s he became president and he said i want to see everything that

01:17:55.640 there is to know about area 51 and aliens and everything and the pentagon said uh you need you

01:18:00.680 haven't got as president you haven't got clearance to do that you need to apply for the clearance so he

01:18:04.820 did and and they turned him down he was refused clearance it says no yeah to the president they

01:18:11.280 probably knew he wasn't going to be in very long car um but that is shocking yeah because it's the

01:18:15.300 permanent government as david hick does say it's the permanent bureaucracy of the deep state yeah

01:18:19.280 they're like oh we've seen loads of presidents come and go that's weird there you go obama says

01:18:25.440 aliens are real take it or leave it let's go to the video comments just i just don't want man i just

01:18:33.100 don't want aliens they probably won't come at swindon and no i'm not saying they're going to

01:18:38.540 come swindon but then you say that why not they're going to go anywhere else but it's no it's it's

01:18:42.860 going to there's going to be an internet cult that based around them you're going to get

01:18:46.300 sexualization of aliens then you're going to get all sorts of weird i just i'm not for it let's go

01:18:52.040 further to tuesday's section on the very welcome collapse of beyond meat and harry's observations of

01:18:58.580 his wife's improvements since she gave up vegetarianism i'd like to go one step further

01:19:03.040 a friend of mine said that he was vegetarian not because he objects to meat but rather to

01:19:07.880 the slaughter of animals he claimed he'd be happy eating lab-grown meat then he said something that

01:19:13.380 shocked me he said he'd quite happily eat human meat if it were lab-grown i think vegetarians have 0.79

01:19:18.740 such twisted morals that they're actually evil well that's disgusting but how would it be human if it

01:19:25.140 was lab-grown if it starts from human cells and then they clone it or something that's horrible 0.74

01:19:30.140 it's disgusting sick it's an odd conclusion to come to isn't it i'm against lab-grown meat of

01:19:35.640 all kinds but especially human but this is the problem if you have sort of like a monodimensional

01:19:39.240 moral compass right this is the sole measure of right and wrong and therefore well as long as it

01:19:44.340 wasn't slain i can eat it so if you lab-grow a bunch of human meat well it wasn't slain it's like okay but

01:19:50.420 there are other things to consider here sorry when it comes to vegetarianism i lived as a vegetarian for a

01:19:57.080 few years when in my late teens because i was just on my high horse and then eventually i came to terms

01:20:01.940 with the fact that i'm quite selfish and brutal as a human being and i like bacon and so some pigs 0.57

01:20:08.380 have got a dire for me to have bacon and gammon and whatever so so be it i mean just we used to know

01:20:14.160 that we had dominions with it dominion over the animals it was all there in the bible but now we've

01:20:18.020 abandoned it also well i'm just going really hardcore because you guys are such atheists i've just

01:20:22.500 decided to go hardcore because i'm sick of it um you know what these people always end up hating

01:20:28.220 humans like vegans they're always like who would about the animals but they never care about abortion 0.91

01:20:32.020 they love abortion right yeah so it's not just like this neutral maybe that guy was it quite

01:20:35.940 rational like ultra rational a lot of them just hate humans and love animals for me being a meat

01:20:40.580 eater is basically nietzschean it's like no i'm confirming that i'm at the top of the food chain here 0.95

01:20:44.920 unapologetically yeah unapologetically no i'm going to kill the animal i'm going to eat the animal 0.90

01:20:49.080 because i am the human and it is not that is basically the same as what i said but in a 0.92

01:20:53.480 slightly more brutally expressed way that's the minion over the animals is that's what it is yeah

01:20:57.680 but this uh but the um the issue with nietzsche is a bit more um complex but anyway my love of

01:21:05.100 steak i'm realizing my guilt for murdering animals i'm morally obligated to eat the steak to confirm the

01:21:11.600 hierarchy yeah it's also yeah you're right it's what happens in nature yeah yeah and to prove that 0.95

01:21:15.840 we're at the top of the hierarchy i get it you guys are all psychos is what i'm realizing 0.97

01:21:19.060 dan said he's high on the dark triad and you guys sound like leech and psychopaths it's only when 0.98

01:21:24.340 it comes to hunting buffalo or something like we've got to hunt the animals i mean even the 0.82

01:21:29.500 american indians ate them didn't it was as long as they like used every part of the buffalo or 0.76

01:21:32.980 whatever it's part of the circle of life and all that but they were hippies good for you i mean i

01:21:37.480 basically nothing but meat at this point and i'm feeling great so everyone should eat nothing but

01:21:41.860 meat yeah well turning into a mongol steppe archer i don't eat meat yeah lamb sorry i've seen you

01:21:49.160 remember john peterson was like i eat beef and lamb i have apple cider vinegar i can't sleep for 16 days

01:21:54.700 i just think of ace ventura none of this animal goes to waste you know that ace ventura too okay we've

01:22:00.980 got a killer zebra but none of it goes to waste okay i would eat a zebra let's go to the next video

01:22:05.420 and now another white pill moment with sakura yes this one's for harry and bo because this way i

01:22:17.040 can give you both what you want harry asked for a cat video and bo enjoys the dog videos well

01:22:23.280 the nice thing about the shiba inu they're the cat of the dog family 1.00

01:22:28.960 does have kind of feline bearing to it doesn't it he's got very cute dogs yeah i'd love to give

01:22:35.880 that dog a cuddle are you dog a dog or cat dog big time love dogs grew up with dogs don't trust cats

01:22:41.620 i'm exactly the same what about you can't i've got six cats i knew you're gonna be cat no no hang on

01:22:47.160 i i didn't consent to okay these cats right i see you're cut cucked to cats well my wife brings

01:22:53.580 home a kitten and she dumps it on my lap and they're tiny adorable and they're purring they're not cute

01:22:57.940 then and they're very cute and i i mean what am i supposed to do like i've got i've got as hard

01:23:02.920 a heart as anyone can expect but a bag supposed to be niching about it a tiny purring kitten that's 0.95

01:23:09.420 been taken away from its mum and it's lost alone and i'm like okay fine we'll keep it you know give

01:23:14.200 it strokes and it purrs and it's very attached to me and then all the cats love me and not my wife

01:23:17.920 and she hates it i like dogs as well you know i like i like dogs are the kings not cats i do like i'm

01:23:24.220 more like a cat it's not really true to be honest well they're just i just much prefer a dog i think

01:23:28.780 they're just good good good people whereas cats are just yeah right i'm not saying cats are good

01:23:32.660 cats are definitely evil um but they are again there's something kind of aristocratic about the

01:23:37.280 cats they have a really high opinion of themselves i certainly live more like a cat because they're

01:23:41.500 loners but i have the loyalty of a dog so i prefer i've preferred loyalty of a dog i do like kind

01:23:46.800 nice cats i don't like cats that like won't let you walk up the stairs yeah or cats that look at you

01:23:52.000 like if i was 200 pounds i would kill you and eat you right now i don't like that i don't want that 0.94

01:23:56.360 in my house every cat is like that if you were some are affectionate and they yeah and they wouldn't 0.99

01:24:01.360 kill a mouse if they could someone like that aren't they no and they'd all kill their owners if they 0.94

01:24:05.600 could all those cat ladies yeah if if you were mouse sized your cat would just kill you it'd play 1.00

01:24:10.000 with you kill you i'm sorry you've got six of them in your house i know i know you could team up 0.88

01:24:14.560 i know as most dogs they've got to learn that i'm the one who's bigger that's nice most domestic 0.98

01:24:18.480 dogs are ultra loyal and affectionate aren't they mostly so uh what's not to love about them exactly

01:24:24.000 i think you could struggle if six cats went for you at once you could struggle to fight them off

01:24:27.440 you'd definitely incur some you'd incur some damage at very least i'd be scratched and bleeding

01:24:32.500 doubtless right but you like you've got a cat weighs a couple of pounds yeah you'd be bashing

01:24:37.060 them yeah you'd win i'm not saying you'd lose you could snap their back easily you could just crush

01:24:40.780 them with your hand like they're not not chinese they're not big strong animals but they've just got 1.00

01:24:45.840 sharp claws which is annoying but once you're bleeding a few times okay well you know you've

01:24:49.280 got to get it done right um turn and pull this one yeah exactly you know and i don't want to do that

01:24:54.400 obviously so my cat didn't want to do any of this yeah it's calm just bloodbath wife comes home 0.90

01:24:59.600 and my cats have laid a trap for me and they're all coordinating they start leaping at me for it'll be

01:25:05.920 quite a surprise but i'm like oh no i knew this day was coming right i don't reach it you wanted this

01:25:11.520 because she brought them home yeah exactly i knew this day was coming and all i'm saying is

01:25:15.980 psychologically i prepared for it and i didn't want this to be the i didn't hesitate for a second

01:25:21.260 i prepared for it they started it they drew first blood cats what are you doing i've always been so 0.88

01:25:27.780 kind to you i'm so kind to the cats they love me and not my wife i have to destroy the cats oh you 0.93

01:25:31.840 mean you went to the vet no let's go to the next one well it's a woman who walks at the shaggy brown 1.00

01:25:38.300 dog and she said to me i was going to vote for nigel ferrars she said i thought he was wonderful

01:25:45.940 she said but now she said i'm going for um oh god what's his name again rupert rupert no and so

01:25:53.660 she knew about him oh yes she knew about how old is she what about my age and you're 71 yes and she

01:26:00.080 perhaps she's a bit old and she already knows about him oh she already knows about him yes

01:26:04.400 thanks mum facebook rupert has got massive reach on facebook so the argument that no one knows who

01:26:13.060 rupert lo is no one's ever heard of purely online phenomenon they tell me but the thing is boomers 0.99

01:26:18.640 are on facebook yeah they're online and they're very um uncritical about the content they consume

01:26:25.260 uh ai slop is one shotting them but so is rupert lo's farm video yeah farm video yeah let's go to the next

01:26:31.820 one

01:26:31.980 one

01:26:45.600 yes

01:26:48.620 i

01:26:54.620 Oh, that's very wholesome.

01:27:05.160 Very. And beautiful windows and light coming in. Amazing.

01:27:07.960 I'm still hung up on why I now have to kill all of my cats. 0.75

01:27:11.100 Why have they been plotting against me?

01:27:13.100 A bit nervous about getting home tonight, to be honest.

01:27:15.480 Let's go to the next one.

01:27:16.940 I wanted to sample other Heinlein works and so read Time Enough for Love.

01:27:20.660 A man born in the late 1800s has lived for thousands of years and become tired of life.

01:27:25.900 His family have him, in the 1001 night style, tell his stories to restore his interest in living.

01:27:31.680 He is the progenitor of a huge family across the galaxy where ultra-long life requires science advanced to the point where inbreeding is controlled at the genetic level.

01:27:39.720 Eventually he desires to go back in time to see his first family.

01:27:43.260 Succeeding, he gets caught up in World War I.

01:27:45.360 It is here the story deals with themes of love most intricately and, unfortunately, most incestuously.

01:27:52.100 Yeah, I've read that.

01:27:53.240 I was about to read it until that last sentence.

01:27:55.100 Now I'm not sure.

01:27:56.340 I say read it.

01:27:56.920 I listen to the audio book whilst playing computer games.

01:27:59.140 But, yeah, it's good.

01:28:01.060 I've listened to four or five or six different Heinlein books.

01:28:03.600 They're all great.

01:28:04.200 They're all great.

01:28:04.720 There's a reason why he's considered a master.

01:28:07.240 Wow.

01:28:07.800 I just read C.S. Lewis's Ransom Tudgy, but I'm going to read this now.

01:28:11.240 Sci-fi.

01:28:12.040 Do Starship Troopers.

01:28:13.020 It's much better than the film.

01:28:15.360 Next video.

01:28:16.380 It is Gary.

01:28:17.000 So, last week, the Prime Minister of Australia invited the Israeli president to come over

01:28:22.500 to hand these condolences to the victims of the Bondi attack.

01:28:26.260 It would shock absolutely no one that the pro-Palestinian protest came in mass.

01:28:31.640 And despite being allowed to march provided the route that the authorities gave them,

01:28:36.440 they rejected this outright and tried to overwhelm police.

01:28:39.840 Which, of course, led to the police having no choice but to brutally crush down on the protesters.

01:28:46.080 Honestly, everybody in Australia is just sick of these pro-Palestinian protesters.

01:28:51.100 We're sick of them here, too, if that helps.

01:28:53.020 Can you be thoroughly against them and not be pro-Netanyahu?

01:28:59.000 Yeah.

01:28:59.440 Yes, you can.

01:29:00.240 And I am.

01:29:00.840 Yeah.

01:29:02.800 I'll go through a few comments.

01:29:04.080 Sorry, we're overrunning a little bit here.

01:29:06.120 Speaking of lab-growing meat, have you ever noticed that they don't tell you what kind

01:29:10.380 of cells they use?

01:29:11.480 Yeah, that's a good point, actually.

01:29:13.400 If aliens invaded, we'd call them AI-generated?

01:29:15.800 I would.

01:29:16.640 I would be a denier.

01:29:18.860 I would literally be a hardcore denier.

01:29:22.680 Morgoth proven once more correct about his thesis on woke North Korea. 0.72

01:29:26.940 Yeah, that's a great point.

01:29:28.200 So, Morgoth was like, it looks like the rest of the world is probably going to abandon woke,

01:29:31.080 and yet we will be stuck with Keir Starmer and his ultra-woke government, like some kind

01:29:35.220 of woke North Korea, and yeah, it's essentially coming around, actually.

01:29:40.460 People outside of Britain can join Restore Britain.

01:29:43.080 Yeah, but you should, really.

01:29:44.520 If you're not British, don't join. 1.00

01:29:46.560 This is a political party.

01:29:48.520 You don't want allegations of foreign influence and things like this.

01:29:52.160 It's a nativist party for the natives.

01:29:54.540 So, if you are a native, join, but if you are a well-wisher, just keep raising awareness.

01:30:00.860 So, yes, and thank you.

01:30:03.160 Apparently, RazorFist spoke about me on stream.

01:30:05.620 I'll talk about that later.

01:30:07.340 CrankTexan says, Trojan horse is a great metaphor for the Greens.

01:30:10.300 The danger is not conquest by force.

01:30:11.720 The danger is conquest by invitation.

01:30:13.580 Yeah, I mean, it literally is like a Trojan horse party.

01:30:17.620 That's literally the case.

01:30:19.740 Enemy within the gates.

01:30:21.260 Yeah.

01:30:22.240 After what's been done to our countries, our peoples, and how much of our children's

01:30:24.720 features have been given away to hostile foreigners, how can we not look back in anger? 1.00

01:30:28.040 How can we not look ahead in rage? 0.96

01:30:30.200 Well, if I'm to be governed by a gap-toothed retard, I'd rather it be Frankie MacDonald 1.00

01:30:35.480 than Zach Polanski. 0.98

01:30:36.660 Who's Frankie MacDonald?

01:30:37.660 I don't know.

01:30:39.580 I don't know.

01:30:40.640 But, yeah, the sentiment is we don't want Zach Polanski.

01:30:43.300 Yes.

01:30:43.620 Yeah.

01:30:44.800 I'm an orthodox Jew and genuinely think about voting Restore.

01:30:47.460 It's worth it to pay more for imported kosher meat if England is saved. 0.93

01:30:50.820 Well, that's the right attitude, right?

01:30:52.700 Anyway, we're out of time.

01:30:53.800 So, join us in half an hour for Lads Hour, where we're going to be having the ideal cabinet

01:30:59.180 made up of all of the people we like on social media.

01:31:02.800 So, we'll see you in half an hour for that.

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