The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1367

00:00:00.240 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1367. I'm your host Harry, joined today by Josh and Stelios.

00:00:09.100 Hello everyone. Hello Harry, hello Josh.

00:00:12.020 I'm going to quickly move a bit closer. You're going to sing the song as well.

00:00:15.200 Yeah.

00:00:15.800 Alright, beautiful.

00:00:16.540 Stelios is like a mogwai from Gremlins. He's going to sing us a nice tune. 0.99

00:00:21.440 You said the word mog. You're going to set him off if you carry on down that language. 0.93

00:00:27.000 Either way, we're going to be discussing the inevitability of a second Southport, which sounds quite horrifying, terrifying and yet horribly predictable.

00:00:34.700 I'm going to be talking about what is soon to be dubbed the Maloney Wave and Stelios is going to be talking about any and all who were cooked by the Mullers. 1.00

00:00:43.620 Yep.

00:00:44.460 So we've all got all that to look forward to. So, yep, let's just...

00:00:49.140 What, you want me to raise my microphone?

00:00:51.480 Harry's not loud enough, blimey. Pinch yourselves.

00:00:53.980 Alright, I've been projecting my voice to the point of ear strain for many for my entire life and yet I'm not loud enough for sounds.

00:01:01.540 You have the walkie-talkie, mute Harry.

00:01:03.960 This is the...

00:01:04.700 I'm sure many people would prefer it that way.

00:01:06.280 This is the consequences of spending too much time down South. You've discovered an indoor voice.

00:01:11.620 No, no I haven't.

00:01:13.840 Either way, let's get on with the news.

00:01:15.600 Yeah, sorry.

00:01:16.060 Anyway, so yesterday I covered a stabbing in Scotland where a knifeman, as it's described by the Scottish son, obviously the guy is not a native Scot, as you can clearly see from that grainy picture.

00:01:29.800 He is not of the complexion.

00:01:31.200 But he tried to get into a nursery and also a school before stabbing people, and this is reported by multiple people who were witness to it, although the police have been very hesitant to admit this sort of thing.

00:01:46.660 And so the press has sort of been reporting on it without any police confirmation, but I think that if multiple independent members of the public have said so, I think that that's pretty reliable.

00:01:58.460 And then there was another attack, which we'll be getting into, which ties into a much greater theme of, I think that a second Southport is inevitable at this point, because we've had two knife attacks in two days, stabbing multiple people, and both of which, they were outside of schools.

00:02:14.920 The way the way the police, but also the way some intelligence communications are framed, they are treating it as it's not a matter of if it happens, but when, and I think that there's lots of preparation going on behind the scenes that the public are not privy to for a retaliation to that fact.

00:02:38.760 Because I think what these institutions fear the most is, well, Southport in 2024, all the riots following that, the police were stretched pretty much to their capacity across the country.

00:02:50.760 There were riots in over 20 different towns and cities across the country, and they couldn't cope with it.

00:02:56.500 And so this obviously raised major alarm bells, you don't want there to be widespread disorder.

00:03:02.020 And so I think that they're clearly going through the motions of preparing for it, they might even be telling the media to miss out certain details and things like that.

00:03:12.040 There are certain omissions of details that you would think would be included, even by biased left-wing press that are not.

00:03:19.000 I showed an article yesterday, if you recall, Stelios, from the BBC, talking about those two people that were accosting those two Scottish girls, you know, the one with the knife and the axe.

00:03:30.000 And when the BBC reported on the people being arrested, it gave as little information as humanly possible.

00:03:37.780 And then if I remember correctly, the Daily Mail of all publications did that article trying to make it seem as though the people doing the filming of that video were just innocents.

00:03:47.180 There was quite a lot of that, actually.

00:03:49.360 Model immigrants. 1.00

00:03:50.640 So I wouldn't be surprised, given the precarious state of the country, whether media institutions and certain institutions outside of that as well,

00:03:59.240 are being given instructions to try and keep the language toned down, try and stop people from getting too angry.

00:04:05.800 Because obviously these problems are preventable, they make people angry.

00:04:10.300 And as we saw in 2024, it's enough to push people to demonstrate on the street.

00:04:17.540 And people have rightfully pointed out, and I found this interesting, that even trying to look up the latest stabbing is difficult because of the sheer number of articles about people getting stabbed.

00:04:29.640 So this person was trying to look up this one about Birmingham that I'm going to go into today.

00:04:34.680 And it's hard to find it because there are so many different cases.

00:04:38.740 And of course, this is something that wasn't a problem in Britain until mass migration.

00:04:43.140 We, you know, it was within our living memory.

00:04:46.160 And, you know, we might have been younger.

00:04:47.880 But do you remember hearing about stabbings all the time?

00:04:51.280 I didn't.

00:04:51.920 It was a very rare thing, but it did occasionally happen in my town.

00:04:55.860 And it did only ever include or only ever involve migrants.

00:05:01.640 There was an infamous machete attack back in 2011.

00:05:05.380 But of course, now this is kind of like national news every single day.

00:05:08.980 It barely registers.

00:05:10.040 Where I grew up down in Devon, obviously, not much migration there.

00:05:13.820 It's all very white British. 0.99

00:05:16.740 And we just associated stabbings with London.

00:05:19.180 We thought it was only a thing that went on in London.

00:05:21.560 And that's what we thought.

00:05:23.360 So we didn't worry about it.

00:05:25.240 But obviously, the way things are going now, it's spreading out to everywhere because of the county line drug gangs and things like that, which are largely foreign run, aren't they? 0.60

00:05:34.260 I mean, it's a mixture of different ethnic gangs.

00:05:38.560 Well, I think one of the more important things to notice from what you're talking about here is that given what we know about previous media responses and government responses to this,

00:05:47.860 the response is never to see how they can prevent an attack like this in the future.

00:05:52.840 It's about policing the reaction to it.

00:05:54.760 Yes.

00:05:55.080 It's a public relations campaign is what they always have to try.

00:05:59.320 Micromanagement of decline.

00:06:01.060 It certainly is.

00:06:02.480 And it's set up to the point whereby you're just expected to accept that this is now a problem that you should live with.

00:06:11.040 And that's not something you should ask of people.

00:06:13.740 Just live with unspeakable, unthinkable crimes that if you had the country to yourself, wouldn't be going on.

00:06:21.020 And it is absurd.

00:06:22.920 And I want to add something is that crimes do happen.

00:06:27.260 I mean, I'm not a utopian.

00:06:28.860 Crimes do happen.

00:06:29.700 But what you want to see is the state being, in a sense, there for you, communicating to the citizens that at least I'm going to try and make the place safer, the country safer.

00:06:42.960 And that there is going to be a sort of comeuppance to those who will commit crimes.

00:06:50.080 At the minute.

00:06:50.440 This is what isn't taking place.

00:06:53.340 Sorry.

00:06:53.460 It's unfortunate timing.

00:06:54.340 No, at the minute, you've got a situation whereby, even if you defend yourself with sufficient force to make sure that you're no longer under threat, that could lead you to a situation where you're arrested.

00:07:07.460 And we'll be talking about that a little bit more.

00:07:09.420 But back in August, some legislation came into effect to ban ninja swords.

00:07:15.480 And this has done the square sum of absolutely nothing to curb knife attacks.

00:07:20.020 Clearly, the ninjas are still at large.

00:07:23.380 And, I mean, they are difficult to catch.

00:07:25.660 They're, you know, little ninja costumes designed to elude the authorities.

00:07:32.680 But anyway, what I wanted to draw attention to is this latest incident where it happened in Alum Rock in Birmingham.

00:07:41.800 Of course, it's Birmingham.

00:07:43.580 And I'm going to read what the police have said.

00:07:45.520 And then I'm going to fill in some of the other details because, as I've alluded to already, the police reports are very sparse on details.

00:07:52.360 And, of course, part of that is just because they don't want to release information that might interfere with the case, which is perfectly reasonable.

00:07:59.420 But also, I think that they're being a lot more careful about certain details that they're disclosing because I've read innumerable police reports about incidents.

00:08:09.480 And they used to give you a little bit more than this.

00:08:12.380 So they said, we've arrested a man after another man was stabbed in Alum Rock this afternoon.

00:08:18.820 We were called to Bridge Road after that time following reports of a man had been seriously injured.

00:08:24.580 Firearms officers were deployed to the incident as part of our response.

00:08:27.700 A 32-year-old man has been arrested in connection with the stabbing and is currently in police custody.

00:08:32.880 A woman also sustained injuries not believed to be life-threatening or life-changing.

00:08:36.280 A number of firearms officers, uniformed and plain-clothed, attended the incident today.

00:08:41.160 And then they carry on talking about various other things.

00:08:45.840 It's not treated as terror-related.

00:08:47.620 This is coming up constantly.

00:08:51.420 They said the same thing about that incident in Scotland.

00:08:54.020 And they also suggested that there was no clear motive and these stabbings were random.

00:08:59.500 So if it's not terror-related, it still has the character of a terror attack in that they're not targeting specific people.

00:09:07.340 They're going after passers-by.

00:09:10.280 And this happened as well in Nottingham, didn't it, with Valdo Callocaine, that guy who was released from mental health care and within 11 minutes was committing crime.

00:09:21.500 That's what a recent report found out.

00:09:23.340 Well, it's difficult not to count it as terror-adjacent if some of these attacks are taking place near or at nurseries and primary schools.

00:09:32.920 Whether or not they're part of larger cells or part of larger coordinated attacks doesn't really matter.

00:09:38.640 If the intention is that if we have these people dispersed throughout the country, there is just a certain understanding from the government that they are going to try to attack children.

00:09:49.980 They're going to try and break into primary schools and attack people.

00:09:54.360 Remember only a few months ago when there was, I believe, Callum from Epping, there was more situations where a migrant had tried to get into a primary school in or around Epping.

00:10:07.760 And when locals were looking around the local area found that in a field, in a forest behind the school, that migrants had just set up tents and sleeping bags and were sleeping behind there.

00:10:18.200 It's really strange.

00:10:19.580 The understanding from the domestic intelligence seems to be shrugging their shoulders and saying, yes, we'll do what we can to maybe try to prevent some of these larger, more coordinated terror attacks.

00:10:33.280 But random acts of terror committed by lone insane individuals is just something that has to happen now.

00:10:39.280 Yeah, and I think there have been a number of cases where they have actually foiled attacks.

00:10:44.700 And I think recently there have been a few prominent ones as well.

00:10:48.640 So it's not to say that they're not doing anything, but it's more that they're more concerned about the reaction to the attacks having a destabilizing effect on the country than solving the problem once and for all, which means, of course, removing the people doing it.

00:11:02.820 This is what makes Operation Scatter, as it has been deemed, the use of HMOs and Serco and other organizations attached and contracted by the government.

00:11:13.340 Even more disturbing is the knowledge, is that to a certain extent the people doing this understand that this will be a consequence of it.

00:11:22.140 Well, if it can happen anywhere in the country, it all of a sudden has a tremendous amount of power over ordinary people that understand that.

00:11:29.540 Classic anarcho-tyranny.

00:11:30.640 Like there's the example of that attack in rural France, where it's a town of 150 people and a group of about 15 Islamists turned up and just started stabbing people.

00:11:42.620 And they murdered a 16-year-old boy.

00:11:46.160 That sort of thing is the kind of thing that lingers with people because now they realize that nobody is safe.

00:11:51.900 Nothing can go untouched by migration.

00:11:55.740 And that's the same sort of situation that we're going to find ourselves in here very soon, I think.

00:12:00.740 So, the BBC adds a few extra details, but not very much.

00:12:05.040 It mentions that a nearby school had to go in lockdown and also a nearby nursery was also placed on lockdown.

00:12:10.620 This could just be precautionary.

00:12:13.360 Maybe they are trying to learn some lessons from Southport and trying to lock schools down before people get to them.

00:12:20.880 Maybe it's just a coincidence that in two days there have been two attacks outside of schools.

00:12:27.020 I mean, it's not like schools are uncommon, but I think it's unlikely, given the probability of this happening.

00:12:33.480 And also the nature of the attacks is that they seemed, at least in the first one in Scotland, seemed a little bit more random.

00:12:41.320 The second one could have been maybe gang-related, which we'll talk about in a second.

00:12:46.060 So, there is a video of the incident.

00:12:49.680 This is labeled as graphic content, but it's just a picture of the scene, so I don't know why it's done that.

00:12:54.960 But just in case, I'm not going to play it if it's getting flagged automatically.

00:13:00.000 But you don't see anything.

00:13:01.060 But there is a video where you can see an ethnically sub-Saharan man stabbing a man on the ground.

00:13:09.240 I heard from locals to the area that the guy on the ground was an Afghan.

00:13:14.780 I haven't been able to confirm that, so please take that with a grain of salt.

00:13:18.500 But that might suggest that it was maybe an inter-ethnic rivalry in some capacity, maybe gang-related.

00:13:26.740 It's entirely possible we know that these two groups run gangs.

00:13:31.900 But we need more information first before we know for certain.

00:13:37.200 I don't really know, but apparently the Afghan who was on the ground, Afghan in quotation marks,

00:13:45.020 was hospitalized with serious injuries, and then they eventually succumbed to their injuries, meaning they died.

00:13:51.080 And so at least one person has been killed here, and also a woman was injured.

00:13:56.740 Presumably non-fatal from what I've been able to gather.

00:14:00.460 Which is also interesting, because if it was a gang thing, I don't think a woman would have been targeted.

00:14:05.520 So this seems to suggest something else, which is enough reason to keep focus on this.

00:14:12.420 Because if it's a gang dispute, then it's unfortunately not that unusual,

00:14:16.520 and not politically that interesting beyond, obviously, solving gang crime.

00:14:20.400 But there's enough reason here to be suspicious, I think.

00:14:25.880 And it's also worth mentioning that the laws of probability suggest that maybe it could just be a gang thing.

00:14:34.180 Because as I've pointed out many times, black Londoners are only just 13% of the population,

00:14:39.700 but are responsible for 61% of knife murders, which this was, and 63% of gun crimes.

00:14:47.260 And of course, as you've covered before, you've got the drill gangs and that sort of thing.

00:14:52.140 Yeah, that's mainly in London, but in places like Birmingham, I'm sure there's other gang activity.

00:14:57.100 That's probably equivalent.

00:14:58.400 Young people will be involved in these gangs.

00:15:01.240 They'll be going to their schools.

00:15:02.380 If it is taking place outside of a school for a reason, it's not just a coincidence,

00:15:06.620 then it might even be inter-gang rivalries within the schools themselves.

00:15:11.640 Because we have seen that in London.

00:15:13.880 Children as young as 13 years old, stabbing their classmates over post-code gang-related rivalries.

00:15:21.200 By the way, one of the senior members, maybe one of the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement,

00:15:26.700 was accused by a woman that he was embezzling funds.

00:15:31.400 And they fought, and it's on camera.

00:15:34.780 And actually, she kicked him.

00:15:38.720 He didn't manage to...

00:15:40.560 He goes straight to the top of what you're saying.

00:15:42.400 Yeah, but he went violent.

00:15:43.660 And the other thing I want to say, when it comes to the mental illness talking point, 0.99

00:15:50.900 I think it's ridiculous and infuriating. 0.92

00:15:53.300 Well, it's somewhat redundant, isn't it? 1.00

00:15:55.000 Because you've got to be mentally ill to do that in the first place. 0.98

00:15:57.720 So ignore that explanation. 0.99

00:16:00.540 You need a deeper one, don't you?

00:16:02.320 It's not just that.

00:16:03.580 It's that I know many mentally...

00:16:05.560 People who do have conditions, and they're not violent.

00:16:09.040 Right?

00:16:09.640 Number one.

00:16:10.480 And number two, if someone who does possess, who does have conditions that constitute mental illness in the eyes of the law,

00:16:18.140 then goes and kills people, then that's not an excuse for having them roam free.

00:16:24.320 Well, it's even worse, really, because it means that no matter what you do, chances are they're not going to recover.

00:16:30.780 Because if you've got a mental illness that's severe enough that it can lead you to kill people, you're too far gone.

00:16:36.860 There's no rehabilitating that person.

00:16:38.960 Yeah, that's just an excuse that you're using as a talking point.

00:16:42.100 I very much agree.

00:16:43.200 And it's quite frustrating, really, because it's not a motive.

00:16:46.540 Like, also, what aspect of their mental illness?

00:16:49.260 What mental illness?

00:16:50.900 Maybe it's just the psychologist in me that wants to know.

00:16:53.320 But I think that the public deserves more transparency over these sorts of things.

00:16:57.200 Lots of questions of different ethnic groups suffering different rates of mental illness, like schizophrenia.

00:17:02.520 Like schizophrenia in the United States, for example, blacks are 2.5 times more likely to suffer from it than whites.

00:17:10.840 And so that seems to suggest that there's a predisposition in that ethnic group,

00:17:16.280 which has been corroborated across the board, both in Africa, America, and Europe,

00:17:21.760 which seems to suggest that it's got some sort of physiological basis.

00:17:27.280 But just to carry on and look at some other stories that have been in the news

00:17:32.820 that were sort of clouding my ability to even research the Birmingham one,

00:17:37.140 there was this one, two more teens arrested over mosque-stabbing death.

00:17:41.880 Because they were 17, we don't know who they were or what their backgrounds were,

00:17:48.460 but the person who was injured was Zishan Afzal, 18.

00:17:52.700 And we know from the Southport riots that the police instruct people to leave their weapons in the mosques

00:18:01.820 with the Imams, for whatever reason.

00:18:03.880 I don't know why they get this double standard.

00:18:05.780 They get to walk around with machetes and just say,

00:18:07.800 please put them back off.

00:18:09.420 Whereas, you know, if you get caught with a penknife in Britain,

00:18:13.320 which we'll be looking at,

00:18:14.800 you might get prison time, which is absurd.

00:18:17.580 But here's another one as well.

00:18:21.800 Police name the victim killed in stabbing attack.

00:18:24.760 There's another person here killed in a stabbing.

00:18:27.900 I think this one was in a skate park.

00:18:30.240 Yeah, Northampton.

00:18:31.040 Here's another one.

00:18:34.040 This was end of February.

00:18:36.500 Man charged with murder following fatal stabbing in Wimbledon.

00:18:39.080 I think we might have touched on this one.

00:18:40.720 Wimbledon, of course, London.

00:18:43.440 But it used to be a nice area at one point.

00:18:45.900 Yeah.

00:18:47.580 But the point is just how frequent these things are,

00:18:50.480 as well as the fact that a lot of these seem to be ethnic grudges and things.

00:18:55.180 Like, for example, the victim is called Luke Brereton.

00:19:02.000 The perpetrator, Amar Zafar.

00:19:06.460 So you don't need to be a genius to infer the ethnic dimension here.

00:19:11.020 Biblical name.

00:19:12.980 But they're saying of Cambridge Grove Road, Kingston.

00:19:16.820 That's still in London, isn't it?

00:19:18.400 But it carries on here to the point whereby stabbings are so common now

00:19:26.500 that members of gangs have taken to wearing chain mail

00:19:30.840 to carry out hits on one another

00:19:33.180 because they expect each other to carry knives.

00:19:35.740 And, of course, the gang thing is separate to the sort of terror-related thing.

00:19:40.040 But it muddies the water in trying to understand what is gang crime,

00:19:44.440 what is a madman on the loose looking to harm innocent people.

00:19:49.760 And I think that one thing that we're losing

00:19:51.900 by the media and the police being so sensitive

00:19:55.500 about not encouraging Southport Riots 2.0

00:19:58.800 is that they're not telling what the difference is.

00:20:02.780 And what they're unwittingly going to do is raise the temperature

00:20:05.720 because every stabbing is going to be seen as,

00:20:07.720 well, this could have been another potential Southport.

00:20:11.340 But you need the details to sort of properly calm the temperature

00:20:15.520 and we're not getting given them.

00:20:17.660 So all they're doing is, in the absence of any information,

00:20:20.640 allowing people's minds, you know, this is a charitable interpretation,

00:20:23.940 it could be perfectly valid,

00:20:25.520 but allowing people's minds to fear the worst

00:20:29.200 and assume that this sort of thing is going on

00:20:30.940 and the authorities are covering up for it,

00:20:32.820 which, given the situation, is the last thing you want to be doing

00:20:35.580 because that only further alienates people

00:20:37.800 and makes people feel like there is no legal solution

00:20:41.480 to the problem we're facing,

00:20:42.940 which makes people more likely to riot.

00:20:45.300 And so it's self-defeating,

00:20:46.980 even if that's what they're intentionally doing.

00:20:49.440 And yes, we basically return to a medieval meta

00:20:53.140 by having knife crime run so rampant

00:20:58.000 that people are using Crusader chain mail.

00:20:59.820 And I wanted to point out that if there is another Southport 2.0

00:21:06.200 sort of thing, another repeat of that incident,

00:21:10.060 that if the riots kick off again

00:21:11.660 and the police can't cope with things,

00:21:14.180 the British population has been basically persecuted

00:21:18.100 for petty things that shouldn't be crimes in the first place.

00:21:21.820 I've got an example here of a caravaner

00:21:24.820 who was prosecuted for having a Swiss army knife

00:21:27.940 in his glove box in his vehicle

00:21:29.780 to cut up fruit for picnics,

00:21:33.020 which, you know, this guy is 61 years old. 0.96

00:21:36.080 Does he look like a person who's going to use a knife to kill people?

00:21:39.120 I don't think so.

00:21:40.140 I think some leeway should be needed at the very least.

00:21:45.660 But this is the state of play for British people,

00:21:49.680 whereas you have instances like this.

00:21:54.440 So this was Carl when the riots were going on,

00:21:57.720 7th of August, 2024,

00:22:00.020 with a screenshot of someone,

00:22:02.440 clearly an older Islamic man,

00:22:05.120 a sword, who just has a sword,

00:22:07.140 and he's ready to go.

00:22:08.220 And as we saw from Southport,

00:22:09.940 they all turned up with machetes

00:22:11.620 and significant bladed weapons at the very least.

00:22:15.660 They were treated with kid gloves.

00:22:16.780 They were told to leave their weapons in the mosque.

00:22:18.960 And so if things like this,

00:22:20.280 something like this does happen,

00:22:21.800 what is going to happen potentially

00:22:25.460 is that there's going to be another considerable backlash.

00:22:28.780 We don't know for certain,

00:22:29.740 but it could happen.

00:22:31.400 And then people like him are going to come out

00:22:33.840 in large numbers

00:22:35.180 because they believe their community is going to be targeted

00:22:37.360 or blamed for it.

00:22:38.340 Maybe the people are right to blame their community for it.

00:22:42.280 Who knows?

00:22:42.800 Well, if the second it happens,

00:22:44.480 they're ready to come out with blades and knives

00:22:46.600 and all sorts of weapons,

00:22:47.680 and then they have institutional protection as well.

00:22:51.320 It's not unreasonable for people to jump to.

00:22:56.020 When you mentioned the Southport thing,

00:22:58.160 I believe that what you're talking about

00:22:59.820 with them being asked to put their weapons back in the mosque,

00:23:01.940 that was taking place in Stoke.

00:23:03.200 It was, yeah.

00:23:03.940 There were riots in Stoke going on.

00:23:06.000 And I think I mentioned at the time,

00:23:07.800 but it's worth reminding people,

00:23:09.120 that the guy in the video

00:23:10.340 who was part of the Stoke police force

00:23:12.380 who told them to put their weapons back in the church,

00:23:16.880 sorry, in the mosque,

00:23:18.160 looked ginger. 1.00

00:23:19.440 So he looked white enough.

00:23:21.380 I know from a guy

00:23:23.020 who was actually in the force at the time

00:23:25.080 that that guy was not an English or British ginger.

00:23:30.520 He was a ginger jihadi. 0.54

00:23:33.100 Ah, every time.

00:23:33.960 Yeah.

00:23:34.260 So this is one of the other threats

00:23:36.700 that gets piled on top of it,

00:23:38.020 which is institutional capture,

00:23:39.640 infiltration by people

00:23:42.100 who are more sympathetic

00:23:43.160 to their group and tribal and religious loyalties

00:23:45.900 than to law and order.

00:23:47.920 And of course,

00:23:48.440 law and order is managed largely by the Home Office.

00:23:51.260 And the Home Office

00:23:52.180 has a very large Islamic contingent.

00:23:54.280 And so if things like that go on,

00:23:56.180 they're going to be using their power

00:23:57.420 in that institution

00:23:58.460 to lobby for their own in-group,

00:24:00.680 which is perfectly predictable.

00:24:02.740 But if this sort of situation

00:24:05.220 is allowed to happen again,

00:24:06.920 I don't think it's going to be quite as peaceful

00:24:09.420 as last time.

00:24:10.520 And in fact,

00:24:10.980 it could be a case of tit-for-tat violence,

00:24:13.520 as often happens in, say,

00:24:15.200 the United States,

00:24:16.060 where it's a downward spiral

00:24:17.940 of increasing escalation.

00:24:19.840 But rather than the left and right

00:24:21.360 as in the United States,

00:24:22.900 it will be with different ethnic groups.

00:24:25.180 And that seems to be

00:24:27.000 just a matter of time now.

00:24:28.920 I hope it doesn't happen.

00:24:30.320 I don't want any bad things

00:24:31.480 to happen to anyone.

00:24:33.240 But nothing is being done

00:24:35.540 to address the root cause

00:24:36.820 of these problems.

00:24:37.800 And so it makes them inevitable.

00:24:41.700 All right.

00:24:42.340 We've not got any screens available

00:24:44.060 down here, Samson.

00:24:45.260 So can you put any rumble rents

00:24:47.680 that we may have received?

00:24:48.600 Ha! 0.89

00:24:50.280 Here we go.

00:24:50.960 Do you want to read through some of these?

00:24:52.140 Of course.

00:24:53.560 That's a random name.

00:24:54.380 It says,

00:24:54.480 Loving the Restore Britain coloured suits, gentlemen.

00:24:57.120 Your looks especially good, Harry,

00:24:59.480 as it contrasts with your crimson hair.

00:25:01.740 Thank you.

00:25:02.580 I prefer flaxen.

00:25:05.020 I didn't even mean to go for the Restore blue.

00:25:07.840 But yeah,

00:25:09.160 it's just a wonderful bit of synchronicity.

00:25:12.180 Yeah.

00:25:12.620 Although Stelios, I must say,

00:25:14.040 is edging a little bit too close

00:25:15.940 to reform for my liking.

00:25:17.860 He's got a Mediterranean store.

00:25:20.380 I'm above politics.

00:25:23.380 Stelios' preparation for this podcast was...

00:25:25.220 I've moved on.

00:25:26.380 I'm transcended.

00:25:27.780 Yeah, your preparation for this podcast

00:25:29.360 was having a cigarette coffee

00:25:31.140 and a little snooze

00:25:32.180 at a lakeside cafe.

00:25:34.300 Sounds good to me.

00:25:35.340 Where do I sign up?

00:25:36.800 Tom Ratt says,

00:25:38.000 I learnt only this week

00:25:39.020 that race riots that hit Leeds in the 90s

00:25:40.940 were actually an internal squabble

00:25:42.300 between rival Pakistani drug gangs

00:25:44.040 that outgrew the instigating parties.

00:25:46.800 Yeah, I actually wrote about this at one point.

00:25:49.140 It's very interesting when you go far back.

00:25:51.960 I remember the first mention of no-go zones

00:25:55.100 was, I think it was in Leeds,

00:25:58.120 and they were actually instituted

00:26:01.480 to protect the white population 0.59

00:26:04.380 from the Pakistanis, 0.91

00:26:05.660 which is an interesting detail.

00:26:07.380 The first sort of no-go zone

00:26:10.180 that was informal at least

00:26:11.280 existed in that way.

00:26:13.080 I mean, all of these riots

00:26:14.960 have such awful mythologies attached to them

00:26:17.960 that don't represent reality at all.

00:26:19.540 It's like, if you read Peter Hitchens'

00:26:21.880 Abolition of Liberty,

00:26:23.040 the Brixton race riots

00:26:24.160 of the early 1980s,

00:26:25.400 were all instigated,

00:26:26.840 if I remember from the top of my head,

00:26:28.980 by the fact that the local community

00:26:31.360 was upset with the police

00:26:32.760 arresting a drug dealer.

00:26:34.320 And then when the riots started,

00:26:36.580 the local community

00:26:38.660 just happened to have, like,

00:26:40.440 stockpiles of bricks and weapons

00:26:42.080 to throw at the police,

00:26:43.080 ready and waiting to go.

00:26:44.300 A bit of a condemnation

00:26:46.000 of the community if they do that.

00:26:47.640 If you're ready for a riot,

00:26:49.080 then that's a bit of a question.

00:26:51.900 That's Random Name says,

00:26:52.920 if the system wants to

00:26:53.760 de-radicalise people,

00:26:55.060 they would act actual justice

00:26:56.760 whenever something like this happens.

00:26:58.080 I entirely agree.

00:26:59.700 The best way to contain people's anger

00:27:01.800 is to solve the problems.

00:27:04.220 Who'd have thought?

00:27:05.740 You guys and the lads at Restore

00:27:07.440 are actually the ones

00:27:08.240 trying to de-radicalise people.

00:27:09.680 Yeah, well, I don't want people

00:27:10.980 to go out and get hurt.

00:27:11.940 A rare anti-Fed post

00:27:13.820 from Random Name.

00:27:14.800 Yeah, well done.

00:27:15.600 We're proud of you.

00:27:17.560 They say again,

00:27:18.300 and by de-radicalise,

00:27:19.220 I mean you guys are advocating

00:27:20.240 for actual justice

00:27:21.120 and real solutions to our problems,

00:27:22.600 which is the only thing

00:27:23.660 that can de-radicalise people.

00:27:25.060 Yeah, I agree.

00:27:25.640 I don't want people

00:27:26.540 to be radical to the point

00:27:28.600 where they don't believe

00:27:29.480 in political solutions anymore.

00:27:31.320 That's a dark place to be.

00:27:33.420 That's a Random Name.

00:27:34.200 Mental illness is used as an excuse 1.00

00:27:35.660 because the leftoids

00:27:36.600 running the system

00:27:37.780 genuinely think

00:27:38.780 that not being white 0.69

00:27:39.740 is a disability.

00:27:40.660 I mean, that's actually

00:27:42.180 quite true.

00:27:43.340 Look at the court decisions 0.95

00:27:45.080 where because some black kid 1.00

00:27:47.260 has too low an IQ, 1.00

00:27:49.320 he can't be held responsible 0.63

00:27:50.460 for his actions,

00:27:51.420 even though he's murdered someone.

00:27:53.480 Ochigdor says,

00:27:55.120 what do criminals care about laws,

00:27:56.480 especially when the system

00:27:57.360 doesn't enforce?

00:28:00.200 And yes,

00:28:02.340 we see what you're trying

00:28:03.600 to do there, Random Name.

00:28:04.600 Please do not do that

00:28:06.660 in the chat.

00:28:10.100 Streisand effect, Harry.

00:28:11.580 I'm just saying,

00:28:12.560 just to make it clear.

00:28:13.700 Anyway,

00:28:14.600 let's go on to the next segment,

00:28:15.780 please.

00:28:18.360 All right,

00:28:19.120 so on this podcast

00:28:20.380 over the years,

00:28:21.320 we have generally been seen

00:28:22.880 as supporters

00:28:23.840 of populist politics

00:28:25.360 and populist parties.

00:28:26.920 We have supported Maloney

00:28:29.640 back in 2022

00:28:31.160 and 2023

00:28:32.080 when she was first rising.

00:28:33.560 Obviously,

00:28:33.960 there was scepticism,

00:28:35.300 but there was general enthusiasm

00:28:37.260 surrounding her.

00:28:39.080 We were supportive

00:28:40.040 of reform

00:28:41.120 as a

00:28:42.100 anti-uni-party vote

00:28:44.620 in 2024,

00:28:46.180 but now I do think

00:28:47.460 it's time to

00:28:48.160 look back

00:28:49.140 on some of those parties

00:28:50.500 and examine

00:28:51.700 the results

00:28:52.580 outside of the rhetoric

00:28:53.820 as we have done

00:28:54.420 a number of times

00:28:55.100 with Maloney herself,

00:28:56.800 but it's time to go back

00:28:57.780 and look again

00:28:58.300 at the results now.

00:28:59.280 We've got a bigger picture

00:29:00.740 and see that she has enacted

00:29:02.600 what I'm calling

00:29:03.720 the Maloney wave,

00:29:05.460 which is

00:29:05.940 the result of the fact

00:29:07.380 that whether or not

00:29:08.260 you agree with

00:29:08.800 populist politics,

00:29:10.000 populist parties

00:29:10.840 have this tendency

00:29:11.760 to talk a big game,

00:29:14.260 talk a lot about

00:29:15.040 illegal immigration,

00:29:16.780 but then

00:29:17.520 open the floodgates

00:29:18.720 to legal immigration.

00:29:20.340 Recall,

00:29:20.900 of course,

00:29:21.440 that Boris Johnson

00:29:22.260 was elected

00:29:23.300 on somewhat

00:29:24.180 of a populist

00:29:25.040 ticket

00:29:25.500 back in 2019

00:29:27.100 and then enacted

00:29:28.280 the Boris wave.

00:29:29.780 And I worry

00:29:30.700 in the future

00:29:31.920 that if there were

00:29:32.900 to be a 2029

00:29:34.080 reform victory

00:29:36.200 in Parliament,

00:29:37.640 a majority

00:29:38.220 reform Parliament

00:29:39.520 in 2029,

00:29:40.600 that we would get

00:29:41.560 what some would

00:29:42.200 describe as

00:29:42.820 the barrage wave

00:29:44.380 off of the back of it.

00:29:46.200 And that may be

00:29:47.120 legal immigration,

00:29:48.480 and it would most

00:29:49.240 likely be legal

00:29:50.100 immigration,

00:29:50.780 because frankly

00:29:51.400 a lot of these

00:29:52.000 populist parties

00:29:52.880 seem to be

00:29:53.820 funded by

00:29:55.220 foreign policy

00:29:56.020 interests

00:29:56.680 and big business

00:29:57.840 interests,

00:29:58.540 who are always

00:29:59.080 eager for

00:29:59.660 foreign adventurism 0.91

00:30:00.920 to create more

00:30:01.560 refugees

00:30:02.060 and more legal

00:30:03.640 immigration

00:30:04.220 to push down

00:30:05.200 wages.

00:30:06.420 But also

00:30:07.780 because, again,

00:30:09.540 they are very

00:30:10.760 supportive of

00:30:11.500 stuff like this.

00:30:12.840 So this is a

00:30:13.620 recent report

00:30:14.340 in The Telegraph

00:30:15.480 talking about

00:30:16.540 Britain bracing

00:30:17.200 for a surge

00:30:17.820 in Iranian

00:30:18.400 asylum seekers.

00:30:20.260 Migration experts,

00:30:21.480 according to

00:30:22.140 the subheading,

00:30:23.700 say that people

00:30:24.480 fleeing the

00:30:24.920 conflict and

00:30:25.940 an estimated

00:30:26.720 2.5 million

00:30:28.520 displaced Afghans

00:30:30.040 in Iran

00:30:30.620 could fuel

00:30:31.640 a new

00:30:32.280 migration crisis.

00:30:33.540 And that is a 0.96

00:30:34.360 ridiculous number. 0.98

00:30:35.100 We knew that 0.95

00:30:35.520 millions of

00:30:37.000 Afghans 1.00

00:30:37.660 had gone into

00:30:38.660 Iran

00:30:39.060 following the

00:30:40.280 fall of Kabul,

00:30:41.540 but 2.5

00:30:43.140 million more

00:30:44.440 of them might

00:30:44.960 be coming

00:30:45.340 straight for Europe 0.84

00:30:46.400 as a result of

00:30:47.620 this conflict

00:30:48.240 that's going on

00:30:48.960 in Iran

00:30:49.840 right now.

00:30:50.520 Now, this has

00:30:51.320 been a question...

00:30:51.860 And the conflict

00:30:52.280 between Pakistan

00:30:53.140 and...

00:30:53.580 And, of course,

00:30:54.160 the other conflicts

00:30:55.620 in the region,

00:30:56.780 but this seems to

00:30:57.380 be the one that

00:30:57.880 people are focusing

00:30:58.620 on right now.

00:30:59.580 There are always

00:31:00.320 conflicts in the

00:31:01.140 Middle East,

00:31:01.940 but particularly

00:31:02.580 when it's a huge

00:31:03.600 one with someone

00:31:04.140 like Iran, 0.97

00:31:05.180 the first question

00:31:05.840 that should be

00:31:06.580 on everybody's

00:31:07.240 mind is,

00:31:08.440 how is this

00:31:08.880 going to end up

00:31:09.640 with millions

00:31:10.340 more people

00:31:10.920 coming into Europe?

00:31:11.820 Because that is

00:31:12.360 always the response.

00:31:13.760 And to tie into

00:31:14.260 what you were saying,

00:31:15.100 the frustrating thing

00:31:15.920 with a lot of

00:31:16.400 these centre-right

00:31:17.340 parties that are

00:31:18.640 offering solutions

00:31:19.460 is that what they

00:31:20.320 do is they curb

00:31:21.600 perhaps some of

00:31:22.420 the worst excesses,

00:31:23.380 if not exceeding

00:31:25.580 all expectations

00:31:26.400 and having more

00:31:27.320 immigration than

00:31:27.960 ever before.

00:31:29.220 But even if they

00:31:31.560 tackle the worst

00:31:32.360 excesses, what

00:31:33.240 actually ends up

00:31:33.960 happening is that

00:31:35.480 they preserve the

00:31:36.660 system as it is

00:31:38.540 and allow it to

00:31:39.360 continue in a way

00:31:40.300 that had they just

00:31:41.420 done nothing,

00:31:42.200 it might have

00:31:42.900 ended sooner,

00:31:43.640 and therefore

00:31:44.600 in the long term

00:31:45.700 might actually

00:31:46.340 be better.

00:31:48.100 So it's frustrating

00:31:49.500 because what they're

00:31:50.280 effectively doing

00:31:51.100 is breathing new

00:31:52.200 life into

00:31:53.020 a regime

00:31:54.380 which they say

00:31:55.320 they oppose

00:31:55.940 and yet what

00:31:56.980 they're doing

00:31:57.460 in reality

00:31:58.260 is making it

00:31:59.340 carry on for

00:32:00.020 longer.

00:32:00.460 I've seen it

00:32:00.880 many times,

00:32:01.660 whenever I see

00:32:02.720 maximalist demands

00:32:04.160 and rhetoric,

00:32:04.700 I just instantly

00:32:05.820 think that

00:32:06.360 something's going

00:32:07.080 wrong.

00:32:07.900 Well again,

00:32:08.420 as I'm saying,

00:32:09.180 don't look back

00:32:09.940 in anger

00:32:10.360 if you look

00:32:10.800 back.

00:32:11.200 A lot of

00:32:11.820 these parties

00:32:12.740 seem to be

00:32:13.840 very entrenched

00:32:15.300 with big

00:32:15.800 business interests

00:32:16.700 and big

00:32:17.580 business interests

00:32:18.580 on a kind of

00:32:19.180 monopolized

00:32:20.000 corporate

00:32:20.600 nation level

00:32:21.660 do want

00:32:23.200 mass migration

00:32:24.200 for economic

00:32:25.660 purposes.

00:32:26.280 They want it

00:32:26.760 so that they

00:32:27.220 can keep

00:32:27.560 wages low.

00:32:28.620 They want it

00:32:29.100 so that they

00:32:29.600 can ensure

00:32:30.080 that there

00:32:30.500 is a kind

00:32:30.920 of freedom

00:32:31.320 of movement

00:32:31.900 of human

00:32:32.880 capital

00:32:33.400 so that they

00:32:33.980 can shift

00:32:34.480 people from

00:32:35.120 one place

00:32:35.640 to another

00:32:36.100 for whatever

00:32:36.880 needs,

00:32:37.500 capital needs

00:32:38.180 at the time.

00:32:39.180 Either way,

00:32:40.760 we look to

00:32:41.360 how reform

00:32:42.120 have been

00:32:42.460 handling this

00:32:43.040 and reform

00:32:43.500 have been

00:32:44.000 hugely,

00:32:45.140 like,

00:32:45.760 they've been

00:32:46.540 very critical

00:32:47.260 of Starmer's

00:32:48.500 government

00:32:48.860 for not going

00:32:50.380 all in

00:32:51.040 as soon as

00:32:51.740 possible

00:32:52.120 with American

00:32:53.740 involvement

00:32:54.280 with the

00:32:54.920 Iran war,

00:32:56.120 supporting Israel,

00:32:57.360 supporting America,

00:32:58.340 they've been

00:32:58.680 highly critical

00:32:59.400 and when

00:33:00.860 asked questions

00:33:02.920 about this

00:33:04.320 on LBC

00:33:05.400 of all places

00:33:06.540 just a few

00:33:07.760 days ago

00:33:08.180 on the 1st

00:33:08.680 of March,

00:33:09.600 Richard Tice

00:33:10.140 was asked

00:33:10.620 the question

00:33:11.240 if this

00:33:12.060 goes wrong

00:33:12.700 depending on

00:33:13.300 how the

00:33:13.620 situation

00:33:14.160 develops,

00:33:15.380 would you

00:33:15.960 welcome

00:33:16.400 Iranians 0.58

00:33:16.980 here on

00:33:17.500 small boats

00:33:18.220 and I'll

00:33:18.900 just see

00:33:19.180 if we can

00:33:19.500 get a little

00:33:19.920 bit of

00:33:20.360 this clip

00:33:20.820 so we can

00:33:21.240 get some

00:33:21.620 of Tice's

00:33:22.200 answer.

00:33:22.620 people

00:33:23.580 people

00:33:23.600 will be

00:33:23.920 very risky

00:33:24.380 for them

00:33:24.700 to take

00:33:27.240 up arms

00:33:27.760 against

00:33:29.340 their own

00:33:30.200 government

00:33:30.420 which is

00:33:30.720 armed to

00:33:31.080 the teeth

00:33:31.420 and has

00:33:31.640 been

00:33:31.760 embedded

00:33:32.080 in that

00:33:32.320 country

00:33:32.560 for half

00:33:33.180 a century.

00:33:33.960 Given that

00:33:34.400 therefore,

00:33:34.900 if they

00:33:35.120 attempt that

00:33:35.800 and it

00:33:36.080 goes wrong

00:33:36.680 and people

00:33:37.720 have to

00:33:38.120 flee,

00:33:38.780 would we

00:33:39.060 welcome

00:33:39.360 those

00:33:39.580 refugees

00:33:39.900 to our

00:33:40.280 shores?

00:33:40.460 would you

00:33:40.780 think we

00:33:41.120 should?

00:33:41.920 I think

00:33:42.480 from everything

00:33:42.860 I'm hearing

00:33:43.440 actually the

00:33:44.320 likelihood is

00:33:45.020 that Iranian 1.00

00:33:46.760 dissidents will

00:33:47.440 want to go

00:33:47.880 back to

00:33:48.360 Iran to

00:33:48.860 help Iran.

00:33:49.620 All of

00:33:51.600 that in a

00:33:52.440 sense is

00:33:53.280 to look at

00:33:54.020 over the

00:33:55.160 coming months.

00:33:55.880 What we

00:33:56.420 must hope

00:33:56.920 and give

00:33:57.220 support is

00:33:58.540 for the

00:33:59.900 Persian people,

00:34:00.680 the Iranian

00:34:01.200 peace-loving

00:34:02.580 people,

00:34:03.120 hard-working

00:34:03.640 people to

00:34:04.520 give them

00:34:04.800 the maximum

00:34:05.320 opportunity

00:34:05.960 to get

00:34:06.780 their country

00:34:07.260 back.

00:34:07.460 Iran,

00:34:07.980 I just

00:34:08.160 only mentioned

00:34:08.560 it because

00:34:08.820 we already

00:34:09.100 have a

00:34:09.460 reasonable

00:34:09.700 flow of

00:34:10.360 refugees

00:34:10.900 from Iran.

00:34:11.400 Iran,

00:34:11.620 in fact,

00:34:11.780 was the

00:34:11.980 third most

00:34:12.440 common

00:34:12.780 nationality

00:34:13.380 of refugees

00:34:13.820 on small

00:34:14.240 boats in

00:34:14.600 2025.

00:34:16.440 That is a

00:34:17.240 true statistic.

00:34:18.580 It's also

00:34:19.040 worth noting

00:34:19.780 that in the

00:34:20.520 Centre for

00:34:20.880 Migration

00:34:21.400 Control

00:34:21.820 statistics

00:34:22.340 that get

00:34:22.760 released as

00:34:23.220 well when

00:34:23.460 they look

00:34:23.680 through

00:34:23.840 ONS data,

00:34:25.020 Iranians 0.58

00:34:25.660 that come

00:34:26.120 over as

00:34:26.920 refugees do 0.93

00:34:29.080 also tend

00:34:29.600 to rank

00:34:29.980 quite highly

00:34:30.720 in the

00:34:31.400 sexual assault

00:34:32.440 statistics

00:34:33.020 in this

00:34:33.880 country as

00:34:34.500 well.

00:34:34.780 And there's

00:34:35.000 no reason

00:34:35.440 to believe

00:34:35.940 that masses

00:34:36.900 of people

00:34:37.480 fleeing this

00:34:38.320 war would 0.92

00:34:39.040 behave any

00:34:39.600 differently.

00:34:40.360 But the

00:34:40.800 issue is

00:34:41.400 whether or

00:34:41.940 not...

00:34:42.040 Where was

00:34:42.280 your support

00:34:42.720 for those

00:34:43.460 Iranians in 0.98

00:34:43.940 small boats?

00:34:44.380 Because our

00:34:45.240 deep concern

00:34:46.100 is that actually

00:34:46.720 some of those

00:34:47.480 have links to

00:34:49.340 the regime

00:34:49.900 looking to

00:34:50.360 spread

00:34:50.600 anti-Semitism.

00:34:51.840 Within Iran, 0.83

00:34:53.300 there are those

00:34:54.100 who are part of the

00:34:54.660 regime who are very

00:34:55.780 bad people and

00:34:56.840 there are those

00:34:57.300 who are good

00:34:57.660 people and we

00:34:58.240 should be supporting

00:34:58.860 the good people.

00:34:59.580 And you've just

00:34:59.900 got to have the

00:35:00.240 courage to tell it

00:35:00.880 as it is.

00:35:01.280 And should we

00:35:01.700 support them?

00:35:02.300 As I say,

00:35:02.680 if this revolution

00:35:03.160 which you're

00:35:03.520 backing goes

00:35:04.220 wrong,

00:35:04.940 you would

00:35:05.220 welcome them

00:35:05.720 if they appear

00:35:06.220 on small boats?

00:35:06.820 Let's back it

00:35:08.620 to go right.

00:35:09.420 That is what we've

00:35:10.140 got to be totally

00:35:10.800 focused on.

00:35:11.360 As you say,

00:35:11.620 there are bumps

00:35:11.960 in the road.

00:35:12.680 There will be

00:35:13.020 bumps in the road

00:35:13.620 and you keep

00:35:14.760 supporting good

00:35:15.580 people.

00:35:15.980 That's what you

00:35:16.460 do.

00:35:16.680 It's a complete

00:35:17.740 non-answer.

00:35:18.480 It's a politician's

00:35:19.400 answer is what

00:35:19.940 that is.

00:35:20.500 It is a politician's

00:35:21.500 answer.

00:35:22.220 Of course,

00:35:22.980 the actual reality

00:35:24.160 of the matter is

00:35:25.320 by his own standards

00:35:26.520 supporting good

00:35:27.620 people.

00:35:28.620 If, as he,

00:35:29.940 as good all of

00:35:30.900 all people,

00:35:31.560 I'm having to

00:35:32.100 sort of like side

00:35:32.780 with him in this

00:35:33.460 and I hate when

00:35:33.940 situations like this

00:35:34.760 happen, but he's

00:35:35.740 the one speaking

00:35:36.280 censor.

00:35:36.740 He did a good job

00:35:37.200 questioning him.

00:35:37.600 If the war goes

00:35:39.880 wrong and the

00:35:41.100 Mullers, the IRGC

00:35:42.540 manage to retain

00:35:43.420 power and then end

00:35:44.900 up persecuting

00:35:45.960 people within

00:35:46.900 Iran who were

00:35:47.680 supporting American

00:35:48.620 and Israeli action

00:35:49.660 over there, and

00:35:51.260 if we were to get

00:35:52.140 involved, as we

00:35:52.940 certainly would under

00:35:53.920 a reformed

00:35:54.660 government right

00:35:55.280 now, if we were

00:35:56.900 supporting them as

00:35:57.620 well, obviously

00:35:58.780 those people would

00:35:59.740 be persecuted.

00:36:00.620 They would attempt

00:36:01.340 to flee the

00:36:01.880 country by his

00:36:02.920 own standards of

00:36:03.880 supporting good

00:36:04.520 people.

00:36:05.200 Then Richard Tice

00:36:06.080 would have to let

00:36:06.700 these flows of

00:36:07.320 people in, and

00:36:08.640 even worse than

00:36:09.760 that, we have the

00:36:10.800 case study with

00:36:11.620 what happened in

00:36:12.300 Afghanistan, and

00:36:13.680 we have the guy

00:36:14.700 who let all those

00:36:15.780 Afghans in, Robert

00:36:17.360 Jenrick, in the

00:36:18.640 reformed government

00:36:19.460 right now, well, the

00:36:20.540 shadow cabinet right

00:36:22.060 now.

00:36:23.020 So there is no

00:36:24.380 situation where this

00:36:25.480 war wouldn't, if it

00:36:26.640 goes wrong, wouldn't

00:36:28.120 result, and even if it

00:36:29.320 goes right, it will

00:36:30.980 still end up with

00:36:31.660 people coming over

00:36:32.820 here because regime

00:36:33.640 change is very messy.

00:36:35.100 He didn't say no,

00:36:35.960 did he?

00:36:36.340 That's one thing you've

00:36:37.140 got to know.

00:36:37.420 It is very messy.

00:36:38.860 But the thing is, the

00:36:40.020 next elections are in

00:36:41.140 2029, and we are

00:36:43.860 going to have

00:36:44.280 Starmer for a long

00:36:45.200 time, and it's not

00:36:46.400 like this migration

00:36:47.980 flow has stopped.

00:36:49.560 So at this moment,

00:36:51.180 three and a half

00:36:51.840 years before the

00:36:52.760 next election, Ty

00:36:54.260 saying this and

00:36:55.320 saying, let's back

00:36:56.640 the people who want

00:36:57.880 to change the

00:36:58.500 regime, I don't see

00:36:59.740 how he is saying

00:37:01.420 that in that case,

00:37:04.220 if this fails, the

00:37:05.820 migration flow is

00:37:06.900 going to be any

00:37:08.300 different to the one

00:37:09.380 that already exists.

00:37:11.520 So this isn't that

00:37:12.340 the point is that

00:37:14.040 it's not that there

00:37:15.120 isn't already a

00:37:16.040 migration flow right 0.99

00:37:17.280 now, but somehow

00:37:19.040 there is zero, and

00:37:21.400 because of what

00:37:22.420 happens in Iran, in

00:37:24.340 Iran, it's going to 1.00

00:37:25.620 increase.

00:37:26.340 Nobody's saying

00:37:27.120 there's zero.

00:37:27.780 What we're saying

00:37:28.340 is that this migration

00:37:30.640 flow already exists.

00:37:32.920 Okay, and it can be

00:37:34.460 increased if a

00:37:35.880 situation like this

00:37:36.720 were to cause chaos

00:37:38.120 in the region,

00:37:38.800 which it absolutely

00:37:40.160 would, and what

00:37:41.160 we're looking to is

00:37:42.100 checking their

00:37:42.800 attitudes now so we

00:37:44.200 can see what they

00:37:44.880 will do in the

00:37:45.480 future, we can use

00:37:46.680 this to predict what

00:37:47.580 these people will do

00:37:48.340 in the future.

00:37:49.180 Again, people are

00:37:50.460 always trying to

00:37:51.180 second-guess these

00:37:52.080 kind of populist

00:37:52.800 politicians and look

00:37:54.300 back on 2016 at

00:37:56.160 Brexit and say, we

00:37:57.340 never knew that

00:37:58.380 Brexit under Boris

00:37:59.640 Johnson could lead to

00:38:00.580 something like the

00:38:01.140 Boris wave.

00:38:01.800 When you can go back

00:38:02.640 to 2016, you see

00:38:03.900 Nigel Farage saying

00:38:05.340 at the time, we want

00:38:06.560 to use Brexit to

00:38:07.980 stop EU migration

00:38:09.520 so that we can get

00:38:10.320 more non-EU migration

00:38:11.660 from across the

00:38:12.360 Commonwealth, Boris

00:38:13.520 Johnson at the time

00:38:14.260 saying the exact

00:38:15.400 same thing.

00:38:16.140 These people, if you

00:38:17.300 listen to what they're

00:38:18.100 saying outside of

00:38:19.080 media spin calling

00:38:20.080 them all Nazis, do 0.88

00:38:21.520 tell you exactly who

00:38:22.640 they are and what

00:38:23.320 they're planning on

00:38:23.940 doing.

00:38:24.560 And what I'm hearing

00:38:25.260 from this is a man

00:38:26.100 who is desperately

00:38:26.840 trying not to say

00:38:27.900 what they would do,

00:38:29.020 which is, of course

00:38:30.060 they would let

00:38:30.520 millions of people

00:38:31.340 in.

00:38:32.100 Of course they

00:38:32.820 would let tens of

00:38:34.020 thousands of people

00:38:34.920 in a situation like

00:38:36.400 that and we have

00:38:37.220 to consider this for

00:38:38.040 the future because

00:38:38.720 it will be all so

00:38:40.540 predictable.

00:38:41.720 And the antidote to

00:38:42.400 this is just not

00:38:43.820 getting involved in

00:38:45.000 geopolitical events

00:38:45.940 that are nothing to

00:38:46.760 do with us because

00:38:47.900 as I see it, the

00:38:49.820 correct position is

00:38:50.700 that Britain has no

00:38:52.260 involvement with Iran.

00:38:54.880 We're not next to

00:38:56.160 it.

00:38:56.820 We have no need to

00:38:58.260 interfere in what's

00:38:59.740 going on there.

00:39:00.920 It's basically none of

00:39:02.400 our business.

00:39:03.080 And if you intervene

00:39:05.360 it makes you more

00:39:06.420 obligated to then

00:39:08.040 take the refugees as 0.72

00:39:09.920 a consequence of your

00:39:11.140 intervention in the

00:39:12.000 first place.

00:39:13.040 I say, you know,

00:39:14.160 don't get involved in

00:39:15.280 the first place.

00:39:16.540 Don't take the

00:39:17.140 refugees in any way.

00:39:19.740 Why shouldn't they

00:39:20.740 have to stay and fight

00:39:21.620 for their own country

00:39:22.360 anyway?

00:39:23.240 I don't understand.

00:39:24.440 Obviously women and 1.00

00:39:25.120 children know, but

00:39:25.960 most of the time the

00:39:27.300 refugees we're taking 1.00

00:39:28.180 are young fighting

00:39:29.160 age men, which is 0.89

00:39:30.520 not good for us, or

00:39:31.580 Iran really, in the 0.98

00:39:32.960 long term.

00:39:34.220 Well, either way, of

00:39:35.360 course, that's my

00:39:36.120 predictions going off

00:39:37.380 of some of the things

00:39:38.040 that are being said by

00:39:38.920 the reform team at

00:39:42.060 the moment.

00:39:42.860 There was also the

00:39:43.520 clip that went out

00:39:44.320 right before we came

00:39:45.320 on, where it was a

00:39:46.960 former Labour party

00:39:49.120 member who's now

00:39:50.140 defected to reform at

00:39:51.660 one of their

00:39:52.140 conferences saying that

00:39:53.080 he loves migration, he

00:39:54.520 loves the culture that

00:39:55.560 they bring in, he 0.60

00:39:56.360 loves the food, etc,

00:39:57.920 etc.

00:39:58.700 Reform just seemed to

00:39:59.800 have reformed the

00:40:01.240 establishment.

00:40:01.840 That's what I'm

00:40:03.420 seeing, right, from

00:40:05.020 this party and can

00:40:06.240 predict what will

00:40:07.040 happen in the future

00:40:07.840 as a result of it.

00:40:08.840 Of course, there are

00:40:09.660 some reports coming

00:40:11.460 out as well saying

00:40:12.740 that it's too soon to

00:40:13.780 know if the Middle

00:40:14.500 Eastern war will 0.87

00:40:15.320 affect small boats

00:40:16.220 arrival, according to

00:40:17.160 other experts, this

00:40:18.180 one being Dr.

00:40:18.960 Madeleine Sumption,

00:40:20.120 director of the

00:40:20.700 Migration Observatory at

00:40:22.000 the University of

00:40:22.740 Oxford, saying it

00:40:23.480 remains unclear how

00:40:24.920 much latest unrest

00:40:25.840 will affect asylum

00:40:26.760 trends.

00:40:27.100 She said it's too

00:40:27.980 soon to know how

00:40:28.680 the conflict in Iran

00:40:29.480 will affect the

00:40:30.320 number of people

00:40:30.880 fleeing.

00:40:31.620 If there is another

00:40:32.240 violent crackdown, this

00:40:33.280 could push more people

00:40:34.220 to leave.

00:40:34.940 If there's a change in

00:40:35.700 regime, some people who

00:40:37.180 feared the previous

00:40:37.880 government might feel

00:40:38.680 safer, but instability in

00:40:39.960 conflicts could emerge

00:40:40.900 as new groups wrestle

00:40:42.140 for power.

00:40:43.100 This makes the

00:40:43.780 situation for refugees

00:40:45.040 unpredictable.

00:40:46.100 And that just seems to

00:40:46.700 be dancing around the

00:40:47.780 subject, that in any

00:40:49.280 eventuality there, it

00:40:51.220 seems that obviously

00:40:52.120 there would be people

00:40:52.880 fleeing the country in

00:40:54.260 its numbers.

00:40:54.740 And of course, Turkey 0.81

00:40:56.380 has interests in the

00:40:57.880 region as well, and we

00:40:59.060 know that the Turks are

00:41:00.540 very keen on weaponising

00:41:02.260 the refugee crises to

00:41:04.780 send them over to

00:41:05.720 Europe to destabilise the

00:41:07.740 continent because it's in

00:41:08.960 their interest to do so,

00:41:10.320 particularly Greece, as

00:41:11.480 Stelius, I'm sure, is

00:41:13.140 more than aware.

00:41:14.560 And so I do wonder

00:41:16.040 whether the Turks will 0.96

00:41:17.720 be deliberately mopping up

00:41:19.180 refugees to then send 0.99

00:41:20.640 our way.

00:41:22.400 Which they already do.

00:41:23.280 Yeah.

00:41:23.620 Which they already do.

00:41:24.740 Of course.

00:41:25.160 And of course, none of

00:41:25.900 this is to excuse the

00:41:27.120 party that is still in

00:41:28.180 power right now.

00:41:29.740 They are all, as far as

00:41:31.040 I'm concerned, part of

00:41:32.080 the same establishment.

00:41:33.680 It's all continuations of

00:41:34.900 similar policies, just at

00:41:36.380 different levels of

00:41:37.940 speed.

00:41:38.720 So there was this report

00:41:39.680 that came out just the

00:41:40.600 other day that the

00:41:41.520 Home Office awarded

00:41:42.280 over 800,000 long-term

00:41:43.880 visas in 2025.

00:41:45.600 Only 20% of those were

00:41:47.920 work visas.

00:41:49.220 That was for the Labour 0.83

00:41:50.160 government.

00:41:51.080 Meaning that, you know,

00:41:51.800 the rest of them will be

00:41:52.640 student visas or family

00:41:54.840 visas, temporary visas,

00:41:57.800 indefinite leave to

00:41:59.620 remain, potentially, as

00:42:01.240 well.

00:42:01.580 So who knows how many of

00:42:04.660 those people are just

00:42:05.220 going to be sticking

00:42:05.640 around forever.

00:42:07.060 It's worth mentioning as

00:42:08.200 well, a work visa doesn't 0.63

00:42:09.200 necessarily mean someone's

00:42:10.280 going to be a net tax

00:42:11.280 contributor either.

00:42:12.840 And so the number of net

00:42:15.260 tax contributors amongst

00:42:16.840 this portion of 800,000 is

00:42:20.060 probably going to be a

00:42:21.080 rather small minority of

00:42:22.640 them, whereas we've just

00:42:23.480 imported lots of financial

00:42:24.800 burdens by the sounds of

00:42:26.460 it.

00:42:27.120 Certainly, and of course the

00:42:28.400 Labour government engages in

00:42:29.800 the same kind of obfuscation

00:42:31.460 and lying that all of the

00:42:32.880 other parties do in a

00:42:33.860 situation like this.

00:42:34.740 We've heard reports that

00:42:35.580 net migration was down, down

00:42:38.140 by a record amount last year

00:42:39.900 in comparison to the past 14

00:42:41.460 years or so.

00:42:42.180 But when you actually examine

00:42:43.700 the data, as people from the

00:42:46.460 Office for Budget

00:42:47.020 Responsibility have done, and

00:42:48.400 Stephen Edgington sums up

00:42:49.580 quite nicely here, net

00:42:51.060 migration falling is actually 1.00

00:42:53.120 leading to faster demographic

00:42:56.500 change.

00:42:57.340 More British people are

00:42:58.420 fleeing the country while the 1.00

00:43:00.120 same number of migrants from

00:43:02.960 the Third World are entering. 0.98

00:43:04.620 So this is actually just more

00:43:06.720 British people going than less 0.99

00:43:09.440 foreign people coming in.

00:43:10.720 That's why net migration 0.68

00:43:12.500 being pushed out is another

00:43:13.620 way of thinking.

00:43:13.960 Is down, yes.

00:43:15.520 Which is a horrifying

00:43:17.360 statistic to look at.

00:43:19.580 So that's what's going on over

00:43:21.500 here with our situation.

00:43:23.760 What's going on in Italy?

00:43:26.260 Now, of course, regarding the

00:43:27.820 recent situation and war in

00:43:30.180 Iran, Maloney has been very 0.84

00:43:31.840 supportive of it.

00:43:32.620 She said, at this time we're

00:43:33.660 experiencing a new dangerous

00:43:35.180 international crisis.

00:43:36.400 Our thoughts cannot help but go

00:43:37.980 to the Iranian women and girls

00:43:39.500 facing prison and torture.

00:43:40.720 I have profound admiration

00:43:42.340 for them.

00:43:43.040 There are no women's policies 1.00

00:43:44.100 but there is a female vision

00:43:45.340 of politics.

00:43:46.500 There are no issues that are

00:43:47.560 women's responsibility and 0.98

00:43:48.760 other women's.

00:43:50.240 A multifaceted sensibility is

00:43:52.000 always needed.

00:43:52.560 A woman isn't a woman just 1.00

00:43:53.520 because she thinks like other

00:43:54.600 women. 0.81

00:43:55.500 We haven't fought to move from

00:43:57.320 being told what to think by

00:43:58.360 men to being told what to

00:43:59.540 think by ideological blocks.

00:44:01.000 We must defend freedom and

00:44:03.240 merit.

00:44:03.660 And again, to me this is all

00:44:05.720 globalist world police.

00:44:07.800 Ex-liberal, like liberal

00:44:09.740 globalism being exported

00:44:11.720 across to countries across

00:44:14.480 the globe in the Middle East.

00:44:15.940 This is the same sort of

00:44:17.040 rhetoric. 0.99

00:44:17.800 We need to bomb them to 0.98

00:44:19.320 secure their freedoms. 0.98

00:44:21.000 That's the kind of rhetoric

00:44:21.920 that I'm seeing here.

00:44:22.860 But of course the question

00:44:23.780 then becomes if you're so

00:44:24.700 dedicated to women's issues

00:44:26.160 and women's safety across 0.96

00:44:27.220 the world, what is it that

00:44:28.620 you're doing to protect

00:44:29.500 women inside of Italy? 0.99

00:44:31.840 Well, last year we were

00:44:33.240 reporting that there were

00:44:34.460 statements about and

00:44:36.480 agreements made to issue

00:44:38.040 half a million non-EU work

00:44:40.560 visas over the next three

00:44:42.120 years in Italy and that was

00:44:43.720 from 2025.

00:44:45.220 Now the actual reporting of

00:44:46.460 this was, the headlines were

00:44:49.340 a little bit misleading because

00:44:50.900 it makes it sound that since

00:44:52.160 Maloney came into power in

00:44:54.160 Italy, only half a million came

00:44:56.560 in, which would be bad enough

00:44:57.540 given that it's non-EU.

00:44:59.540 This is the same sort of thing

00:45:00.700 that we experienced in

00:45:01.720 Britain with the Boris

00:45:03.260 wave, but as has been

00:45:04.680 reported on a number of

00:45:06.400 times elsewhere, that the

00:45:08.680 demographic change in Italy

00:45:10.100 is even worse because

00:45:12.120 between 2023 and 2025, the

00:45:15.920 government issued 450,000

00:45:18.660 permits as well.

00:45:21.940 So actually, if you tally up

00:45:24.160 all of the numbers that are

00:45:25.200 projected between 2023 and

00:45:26.800 2028, it will be almost a

00:45:29.240 million people.

00:45:29.960 people into the country 0.65

00:45:31.360 through legal routes and

00:45:34.800 we're starting to see this

00:45:36.020 now because there was a

00:45:38.220 recent report from the

00:45:39.300 Telegraph as part of a

00:45:41.020 five-part series that they're

00:45:42.560 doing looking into Maloney's

00:45:44.080 Italy that carries the 0.95

00:45:46.820 headline how Maloney quietly

00:45:48.880 flooded Italy with migrants. 1.00

00:45:51.340 Now remember, of course, that

00:45:52.700 at the time when we were

00:45:53.960 supportive of Maloney, when a

00:45:55.300 lot of people on the

00:45:56.960 populist right were very

00:45:58.020 supportive of Maloney, it 0.96

00:45:59.560 was being pushed on an

00:46:01.220 anti-migration ticket.

00:46:03.680 The rhetoric that we were

00:46:05.140 hearing was that she was

00:46:06.720 going to use a naval

00:46:07.700 blockade of the

00:46:08.640 Mediterranean, she was going 1.00

00:46:09.880 to keep the foreigners out, 1.00

00:46:11.200 she was going to sort

00:46:11.960 Italy out.

00:46:13.460 They were basically

00:46:14.300 describing her as kind of

00:46:15.520 the heir to Mussolini, a new

00:46:17.480 fascist Italy was about to

00:46:19.460 emerge.

00:46:20.580 And of course, what ends up

00:46:21.740 happening on the other end,

00:46:22.600 you get neoliberal economic

00:46:24.700 policies, neoliberal thinking

00:46:26.920 being used to justify bringing

00:46:28.720 in hundreds of thousands of

00:46:30.560 people and potentially

00:46:32.440 irreversibly changing the

00:46:34.980 demographics of Italy.

00:46:36.900 And she has Mussolini's

00:46:38.260 ineffectiveness.

00:46:39.800 That's true.

00:46:40.760 That's true.

00:46:42.100 It says here a total of

00:46:43.840 164,850 people will be

00:46:46.940 allowed in next year,

00:46:48.660 aiming to reach a cumulative

00:46:50.580 total of 497,550 new

00:46:54.600 entries by 2028.

00:46:56.540 The second such move,

00:46:57.900 Prime Minister Giorgia

00:46:58.760 Maloney made since she took

00:47:00.480 office nearly three years

00:47:01.760 ago as the head of a

00:47:03.000 right-wing coalition.

00:47:04.400 The government has already

00:47:05.180 decided to issue over

00:47:06.220 450,000 permits to

00:47:08.200 migrants between, oh 1.00

00:47:09.920 sorry, this is the

00:47:10.660 Reuters article.

00:47:12.400 Of course, it actually

00:47:14.980 goes on in this article

00:47:16.420 to give that kind of

00:47:19.380 journalistic reporting

00:47:21.600 that you get from

00:47:22.860 somewhere.

00:47:23.340 You get the nice life

00:47:24.380 story of these two

00:47:25.940 migrant workers in 0.77

00:47:27.260 Italy, Parwinder Singh

00:47:28.720 and Bent Singh, from

00:47:30.440 India, working and

00:47:31.620 living in Italy as part

00:47:32.660 of the policy introduced

00:47:33.620 by Georgia Maloney.

00:47:35.120 It says they're a long

00:47:35.920 way from the parched

00:47:36.900 fields and scattered

00:47:37.700 villages of their native

00:47:38.700 India after being taken

00:47:40.160 on by an Italian dairy

00:47:41.640 farmer.

00:47:42.520 The latest beneficiaries

00:47:43.480 of a policy quietly

00:47:44.580 introduced by Georgia

00:47:45.660 Maloney's government to

00:47:46.840 allow nearly half a

00:47:47.780 million migrants to come

00:47:48.700 legally to Italy over

00:47:49.820 the next three years.

00:47:50.920 And they point out

00:47:51.640 here the scheme appears

00:47:52.680 paradoxical at odds with

00:47:54.120 Ms. Maloney's uncompromising 1.00

00:47:56.020 stance against illegal

00:47:57.740 migration.

00:47:58.600 But this is the thing,

00:47:59.320 when you notice them

00:47:59.940 always talking about

00:48:00.940 illegal migration, they 1.00

00:48:03.620 very rarely want to apply

00:48:05.100 those same standards to

00:48:06.520 legal migration because

00:48:07.960 ultimately, having a

00:48:09.500 neoliberal outlook on the

00:48:11.040 world, these people see

00:48:12.080 these two guys, they are

00:48:13.640 not carriers of a separate

00:48:15.700 culture or different values

00:48:17.820 or visions of the world

00:48:19.720 who have different

00:48:20.780 relative rates of in-group

00:48:22.320 preference and ethnic

00:48:23.900 nepotism and narcissism.

00:48:25.680 No, these two people are

00:48:27.020 simply economic units to be

00:48:29.260 shifted from one part of

00:48:31.760 the plane to another.

00:48:33.640 There is no need to have

00:48:35.440 any greater consideration

00:48:36.580 for these people other than

00:48:38.300 what will they do to the

00:48:39.720 GDP.

00:48:40.920 And if business and think

00:48:42.500 tanks and other interested

00:48:43.580 parties say they will raise

00:48:45.140 the GDP, well, great job.

00:48:47.540 You are let in.

00:48:49.700 If there's extra information

00:48:51.140 as well, maybe suggesting

00:48:52.380 that, like we see in

00:48:53.520 Britain a lot, well, they 1.00

00:48:54.880 also tend to bring over

00:48:56.140 lots of dependents that

00:48:57.420 then end up costing the

00:48:58.580 state a hell of a lot of

00:48:59.600 money on top of what

00:49:00.880 these people are adding

00:49:02.200 into the country if

00:49:03.260 they're adding much value

00:49:04.320 at all in the first place,

00:49:05.760 well, we'll just ignore

00:49:06.660 that and shift it to the

00:49:07.640 side because it's

00:49:08.360 inconvenient to our

00:49:09.380 narratives and it muddies

00:49:10.780 the economic calculus just

00:49:12.680 a little bit.

00:49:13.580 And it says here, it

00:49:14.800 carries on saying she

00:49:15.800 has forged controversial

00:49:16.920 deals with North African

00:49:18.540 nations to stop migrant

00:49:20.020 boats crossing the

00:49:20.740 Mediterranean, built a 1.00

00:49:21.920 detention centre in

00:49:22.760 Albania from which to

00:49:23.800 send failed asylum seekers 1.00

00:49:24.780 back to their home

00:49:25.440 countries, and threatened

00:49:26.400 to impose a total naval

00:49:27.800 blockade to stop illegal

00:49:29.240 migrants from reaching 1.00

00:49:30.460 Italian soil.

00:49:31.580 Great.

00:49:32.260 All pointless.

00:49:33.920 All rendered completely

00:49:35.360 pointless by these

00:49:36.780 economic policies.

00:49:37.860 And also, I know the

00:49:40.000 case with the Albania 0.99

00:49:41.280 base, they had

00:49:42.100 problems whereby

00:49:43.400 they, for the first

00:49:45.180 few months that they

00:49:45.840 were opened, they

00:49:46.860 sent like one person

00:49:48.100 and then they got sent

00:49:49.080 back again.

00:49:50.160 And so, I don't know

00:49:51.080 how effective they are

00:49:52.140 now.

00:49:52.520 All over again.

00:49:53.560 At least initially.

00:49:54.500 I don't know what state

00:49:55.580 they're in now, but when

00:49:57.440 they were set up, they

00:49:58.280 were very ineffective.

00:49:59.740 But the question then

00:50:00.640 becomes, why?

00:50:01.880 As I've mentioned, it's

00:50:02.900 all due to a kind of

00:50:04.160 neoliberal economic

00:50:06.260 calculus.

00:50:06.900 They say, why?

00:50:07.540 Because Italy's demographic 0.92

00:50:08.920 crisis that has led to

00:50:10.200 labour shortages.

00:50:11.780 It's quintessential

00:50:12.660 Maloney, said one expert,

00:50:14.200 pointing to how she's

00:50:15.000 very tough on unauthorised

00:50:16.320 migrants, but practical 0.98

00:50:17.520 enough to realise Italy

00:50:18.640 needs migrants if they 0.99

00:50:20.020 come through legal

00:50:20.780 channels.

00:50:21.160 And one of the

00:50:21.660 interesting things is

00:50:22.480 they talk a lot in this

00:50:23.520 article about how

00:50:24.640 Maloney has two faces.

00:50:26.620 She has the strict 0.85

00:50:28.280 neo-fascist public face

00:50:30.660 that she puts on when

00:50:31.880 she wants to throw red 1.00

00:50:32.940 meat out to her base.

00:50:33.960 We're going to blockade

00:50:35.100 the Mediterranean.

00:50:36.080 We're going to send all 0.91

00:50:36.760 the illegals back and 0.97

00:50:37.760 we're going to put them

00:50:38.260 in camps in Albania.

00:50:39.960 And then there's the

00:50:41.100 actual Maloney behind

00:50:42.520 the scenes who pushes

00:50:43.880 all of these policies

00:50:44.780 and lets these people.

00:50:45.720 And as far as I'm

00:50:46.580 concerned, that's simply

00:50:47.600 called lying.

00:50:49.140 It's also another issue.

00:50:50.420 It's just we need to

00:50:51.700 talk a bit about

00:50:52.440 populism.

00:50:53.280 In a sense, it's

00:50:54.420 something that I believe

00:50:55.560 it's very intuitive,

00:50:56.820 saying that the people

00:50:58.320 should be sovereign, that

00:51:00.040 a state should have the

00:51:01.220 people's interests at

00:51:02.360 heart.

00:51:03.080 I think that's generally

00:51:04.120 speaking, a good thing.

00:51:06.600 But when we are talking

00:51:07.760 about also populist

00:51:09.040 movements, most populists 0.99

00:51:10.500 are retarded. 1.00

00:51:11.800 And they are just very 0.98

00:51:13.600 frequently, they are

00:51:14.380 making lots and lots and

00:51:15.860 lots of promises without

00:51:17.200 even having done the

00:51:18.160 homework.

00:51:18.860 Why?

00:51:19.180 Because one of the

00:51:21.520 issues with populist

00:51:23.420 movements is that it's

00:51:25.240 easy to get into the

00:51:26.460 rhetoric.

00:51:27.660 And if you're trying to

00:51:28.940 dumb down the rhetoric,

00:51:31.060 you're addressing a very 0.99

00:51:32.640 low common denominator,

00:51:34.860 you are addressing from

00:51:36.740 the get-go people who

00:51:37.940 aren't that smart or

00:51:40.040 aren't interested in

00:51:41.040 nuance.

00:51:41.860 So when it comes to

00:51:42.960 govern, you have to

00:51:44.480 have an actual policy.

00:51:46.900 And when you govern for

00:51:48.200 four or five years, there

00:51:49.440 are four and five years

00:51:50.700 in politics, a lot of

00:51:51.740 things are a long time.

00:51:54.440 All sorts of crises

00:51:55.360 happen within a time

00:51:57.100 span of four and five

00:51:58.160 years.

00:51:58.500 So you also need to

00:52:00.520 be a bit more flexible

00:52:01.540 than the initial rhetoric

00:52:03.140 is proposing.

00:52:06.260 By that, I don't mean

00:52:07.420 that you need to

00:52:08.100 constantly say that

00:52:09.380 Europe should be

00:52:10.380 Islamized or should be 1.00

00:52:12.040 losing its European

00:52:13.360 character.

00:52:14.320 I'm just saying that

00:52:15.400 when we have a

00:52:16.420 particular goal in

00:52:17.420 mind, it's a good

00:52:19.260 idea to actually do

00:52:20.480 homework before people

00:52:22.420 just go out and

00:52:23.480 just scream and 0.87

00:52:25.280 have this

00:52:26.280 Rousseauian rhetoric

00:52:28.660 of, you know, this

00:52:29.460 is the general will.

00:52:30.860 Whoever is for the

00:52:33.000 general will expresses

00:52:34.680 what is the right of

00:52:36.360 the people.

00:52:36.820 And if you disagree

00:52:37.620 with this, you're just

00:52:38.920 an enemy of the people 0.75

00:52:39.960 and you're, no.

00:52:41.420 So that's absolutely 0.99

00:52:42.760 retarded. 1.00

00:52:43.420 What you also need to

00:52:44.780 have, as shown by

00:52:45.860 situations like this,

00:52:47.100 is a plan for how you

00:52:48.220 are going to rein in

00:52:49.700 big corporate business

00:52:51.680 interests who are going

00:52:53.320 to want to use their

00:52:55.260 influence in your party

00:52:56.500 to allow for mass

00:52:58.520 migration into the

00:52:59.520 country because it

00:53:00.260 helps their bottom 0.99

00:53:01.140 line.

00:53:01.720 There have been a

00:53:02.340 number of reports

00:53:03.360 done which all show

00:53:05.540 that in Europe,

00:53:07.140 sub-Saharan Africans

00:53:08.220 and Asians, and

00:53:10.620 that's Asians from 0.99

00:53:11.660 across the block

00:53:12.420 except for maybe

00:53:13.180 East Asia, tend to

00:53:14.660 earn between 20 to

00:53:15.920 25 percent less than

00:53:18.180 EU migrants and

00:53:19.620 native workers.

00:53:21.120 Now, this will be

00:53:21.780 spread out across a

00:53:22.780 lot of different

00:53:23.380 industries as well.

00:53:24.620 Yes, but one of the

00:53:26.160 reasons that wages are

00:53:27.840 pushed so low in these

00:53:29.380 low-skilled jobs that

00:53:30.760 these people go to is

00:53:32.180 because of the glut of

00:53:34.060 labour that they bring

00:53:35.160 in from foreign

00:53:36.480 countries.

00:53:37.360 These people who don't

00:53:38.500 care about the

00:53:39.200 conditions that they're

00:53:40.060 working in, who don't

00:53:41.140 really care about the

00:53:42.000 hours that they have to

00:53:42.960 work because anything is

00:53:44.020 an improvement from

00:53:45.020 whatever squalor that

00:53:45.960 they're coming from in 1.00

00:53:46.720 the first place.

00:53:48.020 And so you do have to

00:53:49.220 take into account that,

00:53:50.120 yeah, business loves

00:53:51.720 free movement of labour.

00:53:54.060 It just makes the most

00:53:55.040 economic worse.

00:53:55.540 That's why they love

00:53:55.980 DEI is because they can

00:53:57.300 lower the standards of

00:53:59.380 the people they hire and

00:54:02.180 justify bringing more

00:54:03.860 cheap labour in, isn't it?

00:54:05.340 Yeah, and we can see an

00:54:06.800 example of this here.

00:54:08.060 Their employer, these two's

00:54:09.400 employer, Mr. Picotti, is

00:54:11.440 thrilled with Ms. Maloney's

00:54:13.060 policy.

00:54:13.560 As are employers across

00:54:15.440 Italy's sectors struggling

00:54:17.540 with labour shortages from

00:54:20.120 agriculture to tourism.

00:54:21.940 I'm sorry, could you

00:54:22.520 imagine going to Rome and

00:54:24.220 you're going to take a tour

00:54:25.380 of the Colosseum and you

00:54:27.400 have got this guy giving

00:54:29.640 you the tour of ancient

00:54:31.160 Italian history going back

00:54:32.720 to Rome.

00:54:34.340 No, no, I don't like that.

00:54:36.800 I need an authentic, actual

00:54:38.340 Italian person to be doing 0.99

00:54:39.720 such things to me.

00:54:41.020 He says,

00:54:41.620 Young Italians don't want 1.00

00:54:43.380 to do this work. 0.98

00:54:44.700 They're too mollycoddled.

00:54:46.440 They stay at home until

00:54:47.540 they're in their thirties

00:54:48.480 having their meals cooked

00:54:49.760 and their laundry done

00:54:50.760 for them.

00:54:51.280 So what you're saying is

00:54:51.980 there's no economic

00:54:53.260 incentives and there's no

00:54:54.380 economic opportunity for

00:54:55.820 them to make their own

00:54:56.700 way in life so they do

00:54:58.020 the most rational thing

00:54:59.280 and don't bother at all.

00:55:01.500 This to me sounds like the

00:55:03.040 typical kind of rhetoric

00:55:04.980 that you hear from some

00:55:06.480 guy who's just trying to

00:55:08.060 justify why he hires the

00:55:09.800 cheap foreigner.

00:55:10.400 This is exactly what you

00:55:12.880 would expect to hear.

00:55:13.860 And if it is the problem

00:55:14.940 that young Italians don't 1.00

00:55:16.780 have enough incentives to

00:55:18.120 go out and work, then you

00:55:19.340 need to do something to

00:55:20.540 give them the incentive to

00:55:22.240 go out and work.

00:55:23.400 He carries on.

00:55:24.440 The Indians, by contrast, 0.91

00:55:26.200 are serious people.

00:55:27.640 They're willing to work

00:55:28.780 72 hours in a row with no

00:55:30.800 break.

00:55:30.980 No, he doesn't say that part

00:55:31.920 actually, sorry.

00:55:32.600 He says,

00:55:32.940 they work hard, they're

00:55:33.900 diligent, they're

00:55:34.540 respectful.

00:55:35.300 If you ask them to turn up

00:55:36.440 for work at 6am, they turn

00:55:37.780 up at 6am on the dot, not

00:55:39.140 6.30am.

00:55:40.200 They never get angry with

00:55:41.340 the animals, they always

00:55:42.180 stay calm.

00:55:42.980 That's important for milk

00:55:44.260 producing cows.

00:55:45.300 Well, it's easy for a dairy

00:55:46.460 farmer, isn't it?

00:55:47.560 Like, you're dealing with

00:55:48.660 cows from people who

00:55:49.660 worship them.

00:55:50.580 I mean, yeah.

00:55:51.540 Also, this is basically like

00:55:53.200 union-breaking rhetoric as

00:55:56.060 well.

00:55:56.940 Obviously, I brought the

00:55:58.300 foreigners in to break up

00:55:59.440 the unions.

00:56:00.040 They just work so much

00:56:01.760 harder.

00:56:02.300 They don't ask for rights 1.00

00:56:03.820 because from where they're

00:56:04.860 from, they don't even

00:56:05.860 believe in rights.

00:56:07.160 So, if Mussolini drew his

00:56:08.700 power base from the

00:56:09.560 unions and Indians are 1.00

00:56:11.540 inherently anti-union,

00:56:12.860 then the existence of

00:56:15.000 India is inherently 1.00

00:56:15.720 anti-fascist.

00:56:16.960 This has crazy

00:56:17.740 implications.

00:56:18.600 This is the World War 0.75

00:56:20.300 II post-war paradigm

00:56:22.440 taken to whole new

00:56:23.380 levels.

00:56:24.420 Under the Maloney Legal 0.82

00:56:25.540 Migration Scheme, Mr. 0.76

00:56:27.360 Picotti has now requested

00:56:28.500 the services of a third

00:56:30.200 Indian worker who he hopes

00:56:31.580 will arrive by April.

00:56:32.800 And, of course, these

00:56:33.480 people, they don't just

00:56:34.200 come by themselves.

00:56:35.120 Even these people here

00:56:36.060 are said to have brought

00:56:36.980 their families over and

00:56:38.100 to be raising their

00:56:38.880 children in Italy as

00:56:40.680 well, which presumably

00:56:42.020 will mean that in the

00:56:42.940 future they get the

00:56:43.780 opportunity to stay

00:56:44.920 forever.

00:56:45.640 Because, oh, I've got

00:56:46.540 family life.

00:56:47.660 ECHR rules.

00:56:49.200 The government has

00:56:49.800 understood that there's a

00:56:50.740 need for these foreign 1.00

00:56:51.660 workers and they're

00:56:52.680 streamlining the whole

00:56:53.520 process of allowing them to

00:56:54.660 come into the country 1.00

00:56:55.460 they've made it easier

00:56:56.860 and faster.

00:56:58.560 Brilliant.

00:56:59.520 Many of the migrants 1.00

00:57:00.420 from this new

00:57:01.720 tranche of migrants

00:57:02.820 coming in over the

00:57:03.680 next three years, it

00:57:04.500 says,

00:57:05.200 will be assigned to

00:57:06.140 seasonal farming work

00:57:07.160 and will receive

00:57:07.800 nine-month visas.

00:57:09.000 In theory, they must

00:57:10.300 return home once the

00:57:11.320 visas expire.

00:57:12.940 In theory.

00:57:14.540 There is a way, the

00:57:15.600 article goes on to say,

00:57:16.680 however, in which they

00:57:17.720 can apply for the

00:57:18.480 nine-month visa to be

00:57:19.480 extended indefinitely.

00:57:22.140 That's what we need

00:57:23.220 because it doesn't make

00:57:24.020 sense to have a worker

00:57:24.980 arrive and give him all

00:57:26.040 the training he needs

00:57:27.020 only for him to have to

00:57:28.060 leave the country and 0.96

00:57:29.000 go home, said Mr.

00:57:30.360 Picotti, whose family

00:57:31.720 has owned the farm

00:57:32.620 since the 1960s.

00:57:34.520 And presumably, at some

00:57:35.480 point, he's planning on

00:57:36.400 selling it to some big

00:57:37.340 business interest anyway

00:57:38.360 so that he can go on

00:57:39.160 cruises for the rest of

00:57:40.180 his life once he decides

00:57:41.080 to retire.

00:57:42.060 That's the attitude that

00:57:43.360 I'm seeing from here.

00:57:44.540 Just a complete

00:57:45.180 disenfranchisement of

00:57:46.320 your people, throwing 0.99

00:57:47.600 away of the entire

00:57:48.620 legacy of an ancient and

00:57:50.100 great civilization, purely

00:57:51.960 for the sake of cheap

00:57:53.220 foreign labor.

00:57:54.920 And it's even worse

00:57:55.820 when you look into the

00:57:56.720 youth unemployment rate.

00:57:57.940 Now, this is typically

00:57:58.720 calculated as between

00:58:00.280 ages 15 or 16 and 24

00:58:03.760 and 25.

00:58:05.240 Typically, it's considered

00:58:06.280 the youth demographic.

00:58:09.380 What's it looking like

00:58:10.340 in Italy?

00:58:11.220 Well, it's hovering pretty

00:58:13.380 consistently around 20 to

00:58:15.000 21 percent.

00:58:16.480 And that's with current

00:58:18.240 migration as well.

00:58:19.300 That's with current

00:58:20.100 migration.

00:58:20.560 How many of these are

00:58:21.740 going to be people who

00:58:22.660 have come into the

00:58:23.280 country recently?

00:58:24.420 But also, surely, there

00:58:26.660 is some kind of policy that

00:58:28.040 could be formulated by the

00:58:30.040 people in government to

00:58:31.540 encourage these people to

00:58:33.140 get to work, to go to

00:58:34.700 work, because a high

00:58:35.660 percentage of these

00:58:36.480 themselves will be

00:58:37.520 NEETs.

00:58:38.360 You can say, oh, well, a

00:58:39.360 lot of that's going to be

00:58:39.980 made up by people still in

00:58:40.960 education.

00:58:41.760 Now, typically, a huge

00:58:43.340 number of the people

00:58:44.020 included in these

00:58:44.720 statistics are NEETs.

00:58:46.620 They're not in

00:58:47.000 education.

00:58:47.600 education, employment, or

00:58:51.480 training.

00:58:52.700 So there is a huge

00:58:54.480 unused demographic of

00:58:56.920 labour that could be

00:58:58.520 mobilised in Italy that

00:59:00.080 just isn't.

00:59:00.840 And I would expect that

00:59:01.780 part of it is because

00:59:02.740 many of these people may

00:59:04.400 have voted for the

00:59:05.120 anti-migration party, and

00:59:07.040 then the anti-migration

00:59:08.180 party just brought in a

00:59:09.620 load of foreign workers to 0.98

00:59:10.680 suck up all the work. 0.97

00:59:11.580 And then we move back 0.99

00:59:13.520 to England, and we see

00:59:15.860 that as a result of

00:59:17.400 these kinds of people

00:59:18.280 coming in, increasing

00:59:19.800 numbers of asylum

00:59:20.740 applicants in the UK are

00:59:22.260 from migrants who

00:59:22.940 arrived via legal routes

00:59:24.980 and not illegal ones.

00:59:26.740 And this is the danger

00:59:27.940 of bringing people in on

00:59:30.460 these limited work visas,

00:59:32.420 is that once the visa

00:59:33.720 runs out, you can see

00:59:35.500 the changes in the graph

00:59:36.980 here, well, a lot of

00:59:38.620 them just decide, no, I

00:59:40.540 want to stick around.

00:59:41.280 I'm in danger!

00:59:43.180 I'm in danger if I go

00:59:44.600 home!

00:59:46.160 Look at that.

00:59:47.260 Study, work, or visit

00:59:48.940 visa is massively taking

00:59:51.000 up an extra chunk of

00:59:52.140 the asylum claims in

00:59:55.460 this country.

00:59:56.260 And they will take

00:59:56.880 advantage of this system

00:59:58.000 every single time,

00:59:59.820 whenever and wherever

01:00:00.740 they can.

01:00:01.420 Well, it provides a foot

01:00:02.280 in the door, doesn't it?

01:00:03.320 Yeah, it's a wedge for

01:00:04.280 them.

01:00:05.020 But this is why I am

01:00:06.900 very sceptical and not

01:00:09.320 sold on any populist

01:00:11.080 parties right now

01:00:12.740 because they will big

01:00:13.820 up the rhetoric, they

01:00:15.100 will big up the base,

01:00:16.860 they will throw out all

01:00:17.720 the red meat, and then

01:00:18.800 they will do this time

01:00:20.480 and time and time

01:00:22.020 again.

01:00:22.760 And until they can

01:00:23.480 solve these kinds of

01:00:24.520 problems, they are not

01:00:26.020 a solution.

01:00:26.840 All right, let's go on to the

01:00:30.500 rumble rants.

01:00:31.180 I hope that segment wasn't

01:00:32.220 too long.

01:00:35.560 Oh, here we go.

01:00:37.500 Random name.

01:00:38.180 The only way in which a 0.92

01:00:38.820 politician should ever be

01:00:39.620 allowed to start a war is

01:00:40.440 being forced to send their

01:00:42.060 kids to the front line.

01:00:43.420 They play with our lives

01:00:45.060 as if this is a game to

01:00:45.920 them.

01:00:46.080 Well, I mean, as recently

01:00:47.060 as the First and Second

01:00:48.080 World War, they did often 1.00

01:00:49.740 do such a thing.

01:00:51.220 I mean, you could argue

01:00:52.120 that in the Iraq War, you

01:00:53.400 know, Prince Harry went

01:00:54.900 off to fight, was he in

01:00:56.100 Iraq or Afghanistan?

01:00:58.020 I can't remember.

01:00:58.700 I think it was Afghanistan,

01:01:00.140 but I'll just double

01:01:00.700 check.

01:01:01.200 So he did.

01:01:01.960 So even as recently as

01:01:03.300 those wars, there was

01:01:04.320 still a level of honour

01:01:06.040 involved in fighting it.

01:01:08.360 Yeah, he was, he did two

01:01:09.820 tours of Afghanistan.

01:01:10.920 Yeah, that was it.

01:01:12.040 Although he was, you

01:01:13.140 know, as famously touted a

01:01:15.460 spare, so.

01:01:16.820 That's true, but even then

01:01:18.260 he was on the ground and

01:01:19.440 there were people.

01:01:20.100 A credit to him, of course.

01:01:21.100 He was in danger.

01:01:22.740 Obviously, in the First

01:01:23.900 World War.

01:01:24.240 Well, I mean, he was in

01:01:24.960 an Apache helicopter, so.

01:01:27.000 Well, details, details.

01:01:28.840 I'm trying to, I'm trying

01:01:29.680 to be generous.

01:01:31.900 But I mean, in the First

01:01:33.180 World War, the aristocrats 0.64

01:01:34.760 lineage was massively wiped

01:01:37.120 out by all of their sons

01:01:39.120 going to fight the war.

01:01:41.720 These days, that just

01:01:42.640 doesn't happen.

01:01:43.620 It just doesn't.

01:01:44.460 Do you expect Richard

01:01:45.200 Tice to be offering up any

01:01:46.420 children that he has?

01:01:47.380 Do you expect Nigel Farage

01:01:49.180 to be offering up any kids?

01:01:50.820 I don't know, but if he did,

01:01:52.160 do you expect them to go,

01:01:54.280 all right, time for you to

01:01:55.280 do your duty, son?

01:01:57.160 No, I don't think so.

01:01:58.220 I don't.

01:01:59.320 Habsification, the only 1.00

01:01:59.960 acceptable form of migrants 1.00

01:02:00.920 and asylum seekers are

01:02:01.740 single, childless, really

01:02:02.840 fit birds.

01:02:05.040 Random name again.

01:02:06.320 Love how Maloney tried to

01:02:07.300 sound profound and

01:02:08.420 philosophical when talking

01:02:09.280 about women and she ended

01:02:10.120 up sounding like a 0.97

01:02:10.820 schizophrenic. 0.79

01:02:12.200 And Glee says, funny you

01:02:13.720 mentioned migrants doing

01:02:14.520 tour guides in Rome.

01:02:15.580 Tyler Oliviera, done a

01:02:17.040 video on just that.

01:02:17.920 Yeah, and he got his

01:02:18.800 Patreon taken down

01:02:19.860 recently after that New

01:02:20.880 York Jew video, which is

01:02:23.720 quite unfortunate.

01:02:24.760 Anyway, let's go on to the

01:02:25.860 final segment.

01:02:26.640 May I have a mouse,

01:02:26.920 please?

01:02:27.300 Of course you can.

01:02:28.100 Thank you.

01:02:30.120 Blessed with the mouse.

01:02:34.560 Right, so many people have

01:02:36.320 been cucked by the mullahs, 0.98

01:02:37.840 politicians and commentators

01:02:39.760 as well.

01:02:41.500 And I want to talk to you a

01:02:43.380 bit about this and I want to

01:02:45.100 speculate about why this

01:02:47.000 happens and what is behind

01:02:49.660 it.

01:02:50.860 Right, so I did in the

01:02:52.580 beginning of the year a

01:02:53.800 segment about the protests

01:02:55.800 in Iran where thousands of

01:02:57.220 people have died by the

01:02:58.340 regime.

01:02:59.300 Check it out if you want.

01:03:00.460 It was with Luca and

01:03:01.660 Firas.

01:03:03.020 And here we have Trump

01:03:06.260 obviously starting the

01:03:07.920 Operation Epic Fury, he

01:03:10.060 called it this Saturday.

01:03:12.700 And as we speak, it's I

01:03:14.540 think the fifth day.

01:03:15.980 Today is Wednesday, isn't

01:03:17.320 it?

01:03:18.160 Yeah, today is the fifth

01:03:19.080 day.

01:03:19.820 By the time this is going to

01:03:20.960 be released, it's going to

01:03:22.680 be the eighth day.

01:03:23.780 It's going to be Saturday.

01:03:24.940 Is he not going to have a

01:03:25.580 day of rest on the seventh

01:03:26.560 day?

01:03:27.400 It's going to be the eighth

01:03:28.480 when it's released.

01:03:29.660 I don't know.

01:03:30.360 Maybe seventh is going to be

01:03:31.720 a ceasefire, but I don't

01:03:32.740 think that there has ever

01:03:33.700 been a ceasefire lasting a

01:03:35.500 day in the Middle East.

01:03:36.820 I don't think so.

01:03:37.600 I don't know.

01:03:38.100 Maybe that would be a

01:03:38.860 record or something.

01:03:39.940 So we are going to talk

01:03:40.960 about a lot of people,

01:03:42.280 especially leaders from

01:03:44.900 the European establishment

01:03:46.060 right here.

01:03:47.320 Trump is again trying to

01:03:49.460 justify what he's doing.

01:03:51.300 He says that the regime is

01:03:53.120 evil.

01:03:54.140 And he mentions more than

01:03:56.620 35,000 people having died

01:03:58.880 by the regime.

01:04:00.000 He says it's a very evil

01:04:01.100 ideology.

01:04:03.040 And lots of European

01:04:05.220 leaders went out and they

01:04:07.380 said that they are not going

01:04:08.940 to support him.

01:04:10.340 Now, let me be very clear.

01:04:12.620 It's not exactly clear what

01:04:14.760 kind of support people are

01:04:17.300 saying Trump asked for.

01:04:19.380 From what I've seen, at most,

01:04:21.400 he asked from several people to

01:04:23.500 use army bases, military bases.

01:04:27.040 So I don't think he has asked,

01:04:29.620 for instance, Keir Starmer or

01:04:31.060 Macron or Pedro Sanchez to put

01:04:33.680 boots on the ground.

01:04:34.520 So, um, Starmer, Sanchez,

01:04:37.800 Macron and others have

01:04:39.680 proceeded to, to criticize

01:04:41.920 Trump and to appeal to

01:04:43.820 international law, saying

01:04:45.720 that what Trump is doing at

01:04:47.240 the moment is violating

01:04:49.060 international law and human

01:04:51.700 rights.

01:04:52.280 And I want to say that I, I

01:04:54.380 see a pattern here, the same

01:04:56.440 pattern that these

01:04:58.800 establishments are displaying

01:05:02.400 when it comes to the domestic

01:05:04.080 of their countries with, for

01:05:06.320 instance, crimes by radical

01:05:08.920 terror terrorists and radical 0.99

01:05:11.580 Muslim terrorist, jihadists 1.00

01:05:13.120 especially. 0.99

01:05:14.420 It's the same thing that they're

01:05:15.980 doing when it comes to the, to

01:05:17.360 the international thing.

01:05:18.960 They are constantly appealing to

01:05:21.100 law for criminals and for

01:05:23.680 terrorists. 0.53

01:05:24.880 Criminals in the domestic, 0.97

01:05:26.800 terrorists when terrorist hits

01:05:28.740 happen and terrorist regimes

01:05:31.300 actions such as the one where

01:05:32.860 that, that Trump is wedging war

01:05:34.680 against right now.

01:05:36.140 I'm not sure if it's actually

01:05:37.820 what is the case, but one

01:05:39.620 potential explanation for this

01:05:40.940 could be that Trump is

01:05:42.480 obviously holding tariffs over

01:05:44.700 Europe at the minute and one

01:05:45.920 way to basically get back at

01:05:47.720 him and have some sort of, um,

01:05:50.860 leverage against him to perhaps

01:05:52.560 alleviate some of that pressure

01:05:53.960 would be using institutions that

01:05:56.340 are favorable to basically the

01:05:58.660 European power base, which is

01:06:00.220 like you say, these human rights

01:06:02.180 organizations and international

01:06:03.960 institutions that are, you know,

01:06:06.660 adorn themselves in this sort of

01:06:08.300 language and these concerns, um,

01:06:10.840 about human rights of terrorists

01:06:12.340 and the like.

01:06:12.900 And we know that they bat for them,

01:06:15.280 so to speak.

01:06:16.140 And so maybe they're doing it

01:06:18.260 purely to get back at Trump, um,

01:06:21.620 to have some sort of bargaining.

01:06:23.440 Um, that's possible.

01:06:24.600 Um, although given precedent,

01:06:27.460 particularly with Keir Starmer

01:06:28.860 and his time as a lawyer, I

01:06:30.780 think actually you don't have to

01:06:32.040 be too imaginative to imagine a

01:06:34.320 world where he genuinely sticks

01:06:36.320 up for these people out of

01:06:37.520 principle rather than, uh, to

01:06:39.600 any tangible advantage.

01:06:41.540 That is a charitable

01:06:42.660 interpretation and I'm not, uh,

01:06:44.880 I'm not, uh, dismissing it.

01:06:46.360 I'm all out of charity myself.

01:06:48.340 Exactly.

01:06:48.880 Yeah.

01:06:49.020 I'm all out of bubblegum.

01:06:50.200 Right.

01:06:50.960 And you already think homeless

01:06:52.140 people.

01:06:52.460 So I'm, I'm not, uh, dismissing

01:06:54.260 it.

01:06:54.580 I think though, if we bear in

01:06:56.600 mind the larger context, maybe

01:06:59.800 we will, uh, ask ourselves

01:07:01.860 whether he's basically cucked by, 0.85

01:07:03.580 uh, by radical Islamists.

01:07:06.240 And I'm not, I'm not putting all

01:07:08.020 Muslims in the same category here. 0.62

01:07:10.480 There have been, uh, Muslims and

01:07:13.040 officials from Muslim countries

01:07:15.140 like the UAE who have said to

01:07:17.480 European officials, like, what are

01:07:19.460 you doing? 1.00

01:07:20.460 You're, you're crazy. 1.00

01:07:21.600 You are, uh, letting in really 1.00

01:07:24.080 bad people.

01:07:25.200 So I'm not going to put all the

01:07:26.860 eggs in one basket, but I will

01:07:28.900 notice that the kind of, what's,

01:07:32.000 what's the name of it?

01:07:32.740 Is it the Islamic council or

01:07:34.540 something that Connor was

01:07:35.700 reporting on quite a lot, having,

01:07:37.380 uh, like very deep ties with the

01:07:39.220 Labour party.

01:07:40.100 Muslim council of Britain.

01:07:41.320 That was it.

01:07:41.860 Yes.

01:07:42.200 Yeah.

01:07:42.300 It could be the case.

01:07:43.100 So here, Starmer is talking to,

01:07:44.980 uh, several Muslims saying that

01:07:47.600 they did not join the attack on

01:07:49.340 Iran, uh, by that, I presume he, he

01:07:54.320 means that he obviously hasn't put

01:07:56.720 what's on the ground, but I haven't

01:07:58.400 seen Trump asking him to do so.

01:08:00.680 So most probably he wants to

01:08:03.440 highlight that, uh, he hasn't given

01:08:06.020 the green light for a British military

01:08:08.560 basis to be used in the operation.

01:08:10.740 Um, but he changed, sort of changed

01:08:13.900 the tune a few minutes before we went

01:08:17.000 on air.

01:08:17.760 And he, what he said here is what I

01:08:20.160 was not prepared to do on Saturday

01:08:21.940 was for the UK to join a war unless

01:08:24.640 there was a lawful basis and a visible

01:08:27.260 thought through plan, which is a

01:08:29.800 different formulation.

01:08:31.400 We'll see what's going on, what's

01:08:33.040 going to happen.

01:08:34.640 And, uh, Trump is suggesting that

01:08:36.700 Starmer is pondering to Muslim voters 0.99

01:08:39.260 on Iran.

01:08:41.660 I don't know, because at the same

01:08:43.580 time, uh, you know, sorry to carry

01:08:45.700 water for Keir Starmer here, but my,

01:08:47.800 my contrarian nature dictates it, but

01:08:50.820 Iran isn't necessarily the most popular

01:08:53.980 country in the Islamic world.

01:08:56.180 Um, you know, anyone who knows anything

01:08:57.860 about Islam is, is that, you know,

01:09:00.200 there's Sunni and Shia and they are

01:09:01.760 not fans of one another.

01:09:03.140 And the Iranians are in the minority

01:09:06.040 globally speaking, uh, being Sunni,

01:09:09.340 aren't they?

01:09:09.720 Oh no, they're Shia, sorry, the other 1.00

01:09:10.960 way around.

01:09:11.620 Um, and so a lot of the Sunni Muslims,

01:09:14.500 which are most Muslim countries, um,

01:09:17.420 oppose that sect of Islam. 0.85

01:09:18.760 And so they're not exactly the biggest

01:09:21.140 defenders of Iran necessarily, which 0.61

01:09:23.620 is why you see countries helping Israel,

01:09:26.640 um, bomb them, for example, from the 0.99

01:09:28.800 Islamic world. 0.98

01:09:29.520 It's not that they've suddenly betrayed

01:09:31.100 their religious interests.

01:09:32.680 In fact, they're pursuing them just

01:09:34.480 through a temporary ally.

01:09:36.360 Well, a lot of those Gulf states are

01:09:38.040 already aligned with the US, which is

01:09:39.920 why you've seen Iran immediately, uh,

01:09:42.020 striking a lot of them.

01:09:43.020 But in this case, I don't think it's an

01:09:44.700 issue of numbers, uh, like saying that

01:09:47.300 85% of, uh, Islam is Sunni, 15 is

01:09:51.780 Shia, and it's located in Iran.

01:09:54.100 I think this has to do with leadership.

01:09:56.480 I don't think the, the average, let's

01:09:58.800 say, uh, citizen of the UAE had a say

01:10:02.060 over whether the UAE is going to back

01:10:04.560 the US or not.

01:10:05.820 I think this has to do with Trump's

01:10:07.940 geopolitical moves in the region.

01:10:10.000 It's, it's not so much an issue of how

01:10:11.700 many people, but I do respect, I do

01:10:13.880 respect your argument here.

01:10:15.240 But one of the things I think that the

01:10:17.340 Americans are trying to say here,

01:10:19.780 especially the US, and, uh, we frequently

01:10:23.100 hear Marco Rubio, J.D. Vance talking

01:10:25.400 about these things is just, they need to

01:10:28.180 see some, they want, they say they want

01:10:30.600 to see some hardline approach towards

01:10:33.560 radical Islamism in the, in Europe.

01:10:37.600 And the question is, if you say you want,

01:10:40.480 for instance, to deport many people, why are

01:10:44.360 you afraid to count a signal operation

01:10:46.700 against one of the, one of the regimes

01:10:49.260 that they name a terrorist regime, which is

01:10:51.560 one of the biggest funders of terrorism in

01:10:54.620 not only the Middle East, but around the

01:10:56.860 world, which would be one of the massive

01:11:00.560 lobbies that would protest against any

01:11:04.200 attempt to, to deport radical people.

01:11:08.740 So that's, that's one of the issues.

01:11:10.880 That's one of the questions for, especially

01:11:13.120 also for the, for the right wing of

01:11:15.760 Europe is if you are, if you want to do

01:11:19.800 deportations, people aren't just going to

01:11:23.060 voluntarily going into an airplane, right?

01:11:25.720 There is going to be backlash.

01:11:27.360 So who's behind the backlash?

01:11:29.380 Could it be that a particular regimes

01:11:31.860 have funded it, have engaged in hybrid

01:11:35.960 warfare when it comes to instrumentalizing

01:11:38.860 migration flows, but also funding, funding

01:11:42.040 terrorist organizations?

01:11:44.280 So that's one of, that's one of the, one

01:11:46.380 of the, one of the worries that the

01:11:48.440 Americans have.

01:11:49.540 We know that the Iranians were funding 0.99

01:11:51.320 the Houthi rebels in Yemen, who were able

01:11:54.060 to disrupt shipping, which did have a

01:11:56.980 tangible effect on Britain.

01:11:59.120 There's one example of them having a

01:12:01.720 direct effect on, on our country, to be

01:12:03.780 fair.

01:12:04.660 Here we have Macron backing Spain and

01:12:07.740 declaring the US strikes on Iran illegal as

01:12:11.020 Europe rings its hands over decisions to

01:12:14.140 topple Tyron Khamenei.

01:12:15.740 And they're talking again, they're appealing

01:12:17.320 to international law and human rights.

01:12:20.940 And in the same way that we mentioned Meloni

01:12:23.240 before, and the attempt to appeal to human

01:12:27.680 rights when it comes to the women of Iran, that 0.87

01:12:30.920 a sort of lukewarm approach towards violations of

01:12:35.640 human rights and women rights and safety, the

01:12:38.560 safety of natives.

01:12:40.220 The same comes here, whether, you know, Macron,

01:12:42.640 Pedro, Pedro Sánchez, Starmer, they are very

01:12:46.320 cavalier with international law and human

01:12:49.680 rights when it comes to criminals, terrorists

01:12:52.680 and terrorist regimes.

01:12:54.280 And they aren't exactly cavalier when it comes to

01:12:57.300 the safety of their own people.

01:12:59.180 That's one of the questions that people ask and

01:13:02.660 leads them to say that many of the countries in

01:13:05.760 Europe have been completely cucked.

01:13:07.960 And I can sort of see it for Macron, to be

01:13:10.020 honest, I can sort of see it.

01:13:13.380 And let's move here to Spain.

01:13:15.820 Spanish PM Pedro Sánchez says to Trump, we're

01:13:18.380 not going to be accomplices to something that is

01:13:21.260 bad for the world.

01:13:22.980 And that is also contrary to our values and

01:13:25.220 interests simply because of the fear of reprisals

01:13:27.700 from some.

01:13:28.620 The question is here whether he is afraid of

01:13:31.000 reprisals from radical Islamists in Europe.

01:13:33.580 And the same applies for Starmer and and Macron

01:13:36.780 and other leaders who are doing this.

01:13:38.320 Isn't he importing lots of people from that part

01:13:41.160 of the world?

01:13:42.060 Exactly.

01:13:43.040 And he was he was he was criticizing X and Elon

01:13:51.500 Musk for saying that he had he was completely

01:13:55.140 misrepresented when it comes to the the provision

01:13:59.860 of citizenship to and the right to work to more

01:14:04.280 than a million of undocumented migrants.

01:14:07.120 Look at this article from France 24, not exactly

01:14:10.360 the most right wing media outlet, says here why

01:14:13.520 Spain is offering amnesty to half a million

01:14:16.080 undocumented migrants.

01:14:17.500 Again, it's the same thing that we heard with

01:14:19.920 Maloney.

01:14:20.480 It's the same thing that we hear with Spain.

01:14:25.620 I mean, we do also have to take into account that

01:14:27.900 Donald Trump and his administration spent the

01:14:30.120 entirety of January, basically pissing off the entire

01:14:33.820 European establishment.

01:14:35.020 And then Donald Trump going out of his way in some

01:14:37.780 interviews to infer that Britain, for instance,

01:14:41.240 didn't actually contribute any people or many people

01:14:45.280 to the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:14:47.760 And those that they did send, you know, they weren't on

01:14:50.040 the front lines.

01:14:50.800 They kind of stood back a little bit.

01:14:52.620 You know, we basically had to do the whole thing.

01:14:54.220 Basically lying.

01:14:54.900 He was, he like insulted the entire war effort that went

01:14:59.700 on with Iraq and Afghanistan from the European

01:15:01.880 perspective.

01:15:02.780 And then what comes with his hat in hand, insulting us

01:15:07.180 again, asking for help this time.

01:15:09.460 So he's not set up the European establishment to want to

01:15:14.880 come to America's help.

01:15:16.120 To some degree, I agree with you.

01:15:18.300 And I agreed we were on the same team when it came to

01:15:22.060 Greenland, and I was one of the people who called him out

01:15:25.740 on this.

01:15:26.900 Yeah, I think it was a, if, as it seems, some people are

01:15:30.640 suggesting that the attack on Venezuela and securing their 0.57

01:15:33.880 oil reserves might have been done in preparation, given that

01:15:37.180 Marco Rubio and a few other people have made, made statements

01:15:41.260 that seem to suggest that Israel was already planning on

01:15:43.900 making an attack on Iran.

01:15:46.080 That they did what they did in Venezuela to secure oil

01:15:49.880 reserves and oil production for, for the, for preparation

01:15:54.820 for this.

01:15:56.160 Then at the same time as doing that, maybe going out of your

01:16:01.340 way to insult and antagonize a load of allies you knew you

01:16:04.160 might need in a few months wasn't the best way of going,

01:16:06.540 of preparing for it.

01:16:07.160 I agree with you on this.

01:16:08.560 He was wrong to do this.

01:16:09.760 And I called him out on it.

01:16:11.160 I was one of those who did.

01:16:12.680 I think he was thinking more about the midterms and galvanizing

01:16:16.220 his base, who I think are maybe quite prone to sit on their

01:16:20.600 backsides on election day.

01:16:22.340 That was needless.

01:16:23.600 And I don't think we, I don't think it's a, it's a sensible

01:16:28.220 point to make that the Danish government and its hold over

01:16:33.080 Greenland is his equivalent to the IRGC's hold over Iran.

01:16:38.460 Here we have Vox president Santiago Abascal, who is the

01:16:43.320 deportations guy in Spain.

01:16:46.780 He says the Islamic regime in Iran and Venezuela have been

01:16:49.660 financing the far left in Spain over the last 15 years.

01:16:53.660 That's why Pedro Sanchez is the Ayatollah's best friend, 0.97

01:16:56.760 best friend in Europe.

01:16:58.320 And he is also talking about the, he's calling for elections and

01:17:03.020 he's saying that Pedro Sanchez is inflicting damage on Spain's

01:17:06.460 image, and I want to show you another politician, Irene Montero 0.97

01:17:14.880 from Spain's MEP.

01:17:16.780 I think she's from the Podemos.

01:17:18.500 She's again putting forward this rhetoric that this was a

01:17:22.780 needless operation.

01:17:25.220 There is no real threat or anything.

01:17:28.280 And that Trump is the, that the U.S. and Israel, she says, are

01:17:32.720 currently the main threats to the security and stability of

01:17:35.960 humanity at large.

01:17:37.780 She is the person who is saying that she's happy for Spaniards to

01:17:43.340 be replaced.

01:17:45.380 It was going so well with what she said before, like withdrawing

01:17:48.460 NATO and saying that Israel's causing trouble.

01:17:50.200 I think we need to look at the broader perspective here, because I

01:17:54.640 understand that there are always two tendencies.

01:17:58.540 One tendency is to be very inward looking.

01:18:01.960 The other tendency is to be very global looking or focusing on the global

01:18:07.020 perspective.

01:18:07.720 And I think if we focus on the global perspective, we will see that every

01:18:11.580 country is affected by the, by the world.

01:18:14.260 Every country is affected by things that happen in the world.

01:18:17.680 So if I think that this is a question that people will have to answer, and that

01:18:24.160 this is what I think Trump is trying to do here.

01:18:27.320 He says that essentially the approach that Obama had, that Kamala has right now, Biden

01:18:35.620 had before with the, with the Iranians just didn't work.

01:18:38.380 So the, the time for, for soft power is over.

01:18:43.060 And it's interesting to see that, you know, when Trump was elected, because lots of people

01:18:48.240 are saying now Trump turned his back to, to his media, to his promises or something.

01:18:54.620 Remember, he was presented as the hard power candidate.

01:18:58.500 And also he had Trump, to be fair.

01:19:01.520 A lot of people have been mistakenly saying that he wasn't, he didn't sort of run on

01:19:08.380 intervening in Iran, which isn't true.

01:19:11.160 He actually always has said he wanted to intervene in Iran.

01:19:14.500 Since the early 80s, I think.

01:19:16.220 Yeah.

01:19:16.600 And, and so that is the case.

01:19:18.480 Although people associate him with being pro-peace because in his first term he didn't

01:19:23.540 start a war.

01:19:24.600 And generally speaking, he's been critical of intervention.

01:19:27.800 I think you can fault the Trump messaging in 2024 when there's literally posts from the

01:19:34.780 GOP Twitter account with a big picture of JD Vance and Donald Trump saying, vote the pro-peace

01:19:40.700 ticket.

01:19:41.500 I know.

01:19:41.840 They amped it up.

01:19:42.840 And a number of interviews with people like JD Vance saying that, oh, if you want to get

01:19:47.600 the war ticket, then you vote for Democrats.

01:19:49.780 They've got Liz Cheney backing them. 1.00

01:19:52.200 And you know what a neocon she is. 1.00

01:19:54.060 And he did explicitly say that he was going to be anti-war to try and win the libertarian vote

01:19:59.000 as well.

01:19:59.740 It's why people like Dave Smith supported him at the time.

01:20:02.380 I think you can be critical and say that his messaging on it has been contradictory,

01:20:09.900 but the overwhelming thrust of the GOP messaging in 2024 was largely anti-war pro-peace.

01:20:17.560 I can put it like this then.

01:20:18.740 Because I'm a political commentator, I was aware that he was always committed to Iran,

01:20:22.540 but for the general population and the electorate in the United States, he presented it as he

01:20:27.720 was a pro-peace candidate.

01:20:29.900 I think that's the basically not disagreeing with what you're saying.

01:20:33.540 But in that case, it's similar to the way that I described Maloney in the last segment

01:20:38.120 where she was talking out of both sides of her mouth.

01:20:40.700 I remember he was against forever wars.

01:20:43.460 So I think I will fault him if this turns into a forever war.

01:20:47.600 And also if the next, let's say, regime isn't going to be able to govern the country.

01:20:54.980 I think that would be a very bad...

01:20:57.880 I'm going to fault him if he puts Al-Qaeda or some other terrorist group in charge like

01:21:01.980 he did in Syria.

01:21:03.040 Please no.

01:21:04.640 Okay.

01:21:05.360 So let's look at some other statements here, which I think shed light into what is happening.

01:21:11.520 The DSA stands against imperialist war and with the Iranian people.

01:21:15.720 Now, when I see this, I go ballistic and I'm completely infuriated and I go...

01:21:22.000 I have anger management issues.

01:21:24.020 As I've told you before, Josh, I had immense outbursts of anger because this is textbook

01:21:30.460 commie propaganda nonsense.

01:21:33.640 First of all, it's...

01:21:35.480 This is just Mao talking.

01:21:37.320 It's like Mao is the anti-imperialist and the Soviet Union is the anti-imperialist.

01:21:41.840 And anything that is against Mao and the Soviet Union is imperialist.

01:21:46.800 That's this framing.

01:21:48.120 And also one of the things is that you can't equate the Iranian people with the regime that

01:22:00.120 right now governs Iran.

01:22:01.620 Wasn't it Marxist instability in Iran that created the conditions to have this Islamic takeover 0.96

01:22:10.020 anyway?

01:22:10.560 I believe it was a leftist uprising that then the Islamists just took over. 0.74

01:22:15.440 Josh, I had your curiosity.

01:22:17.460 Now I have your attention.

01:22:19.340 Here we have, I think this is one commie in the US.

01:22:24.540 He says, Iran is not just fighting a war.

01:22:27.080 It fights at the vanguard of world revolution against the entire global system.

01:22:31.740 Revolution is the ultimate law of the cosmos.

01:22:34.380 All things are destined to be forced upon the mercy of their premises.

01:22:37.760 Iran delivers the will of heaven to mankind.

01:22:41.220 Now, this is unusual language for a communist.

01:22:44.400 Yeah, it's a bit religious, isn't it?

01:22:46.100 Yeah.

01:22:46.920 So, Josh, who is this guy here?

01:22:52.180 Karl Marx.

01:22:52.980 Never heard of him.

01:22:53.700 No idea.

01:22:54.160 Right.

01:22:54.420 So, how is it that we can have theocrats and Marxists together?

01:23:01.460 I'll scroll down.

01:23:02.620 You can answer me while I'm scrolling down.

01:23:04.460 I mean, a lot of modern Marxists treat Marx's proclamations and his publications, even though most of them are wrote by Engels, as if they're divine proclamations from the Lord Almighty himself.

01:23:18.560 And that's how they talk about them.

01:23:20.420 And that's how they proceed with their politics as these articles of faith.

01:23:24.680 I realized this when I spoke to radical left-wingers about economics, and I started talking about actual economics, and then they started talking about people deserve this, people deserve that.

01:23:36.860 And I was like, yeah, but how does it actually work?

01:23:38.380 And they're like, what?

01:23:40.120 Right.

01:23:40.620 So, here we have the final words of the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Engels, I believe, in 1848.

01:23:49.220 They were doing this during the Revolutionary Spring.

01:23:52.300 In short, the communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.

01:24:02.700 Right?

01:24:03.040 In all these movements they bring to the front as the leading question in each, the property question.

01:24:07.640 No matter what its degree of development at the time, finally, they labor everywhere for the union and agreement of the democratic parties of all countries.

01:24:16.120 Yeah, we've seen this.

01:24:17.400 The communists disdain to conceal their views and aims.

01:24:20.780 They openly declare that their ends can only be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.

01:24:28.700 Let the ruling class tremble at the communist revolution.

01:24:32.440 Blah, blah, blah.

01:24:34.720 Workingmen of all countries unite.

01:24:36.740 So, this thing here hasn't exactly worked well for the communists in the case of the Iranian revolution.

01:24:43.880 This is one of the major incidents of 20th century history.

01:24:51.680 So, you have to be, how should I put it politely?

01:24:56.220 I can't. 0.99

01:24:56.800 But you have to be a massive moron to think that a theocrat movement is a revolutionary movement, which shows actually that what they have is anti-Westernism, anti-capitalism, anti-liberalism, anti-Europeanism at heart. 0.98

01:25:13.900 That's their prime motivation. 0.99

01:25:15.260 They have zero sense of survival instinct, zero sense of self-preservation.

01:25:22.500 Well, they hate their country, they hate their people, and they hate themselves, and it manifests in everything they do.

01:25:28.140 Exactly.

01:25:28.300 And this is what precisely manifests in all these people here.

01:25:34.760 In Starmer, I think Macron, into Pedro Sanchez, in this Irini Montero, who is calling for the, who was calling for the great replacement of the Spaniards. 0.98

01:25:47.860 Where is she?

01:25:48.780 She hid herself from shame.

01:25:50.300 Yeah, here she is. 0.98

01:25:51.460 We are dealt with a very unholy alliance between leftists who haven't understood that Khomeini massacred them, and they still carry on being cocked by that regime.

01:26:07.740 And they are exporting this kind of alliance that they had in Iran domestically.

01:26:16.740 They're trying to export it internationally.

01:26:19.420 Well, I don't think it's going to work, because I think the power of the United States missiles is going to far supersede the power of left-wingers saying,

01:26:31.260 hey, join our coalition with this government that's going to last all of five minutes.

01:26:35.320 Yes, but we say this, but we have Kamala Harris, for instance, trying to completely go that leftist way. 1.00

01:26:43.600 And we have the left in the West being incredibly ecophobic, and the people we mentioned in the segment who say Western civilization is irredeemable,

01:26:56.080 and it has to be destroyed by mass migration, by all this destruction and liquidation of culture.

01:27:05.380 And Kamala Harris was really close to becoming the president of the United States.

01:27:12.660 It's scary if you think of it, that Trump won her, but it wasn't a kind of Nixonian or Reagan-like landslide.

01:27:20.360 There are millions of people who voted for Kamala Harris.

01:27:23.760 And you also have people like Fuentes saying, vote for Kamala Harris.

01:27:29.160 But maybe he's going to get 300 people to do so.

01:27:32.800 I think what he's trying to do there is trying to drag the Republican Party to the right by saying, we're going to deny you votes.

01:27:41.980 I don't know whether that will work, but it'll be interesting to see what happens.

01:27:45.640 It is more difficult in a country like the US, where there is a greater monopoly on the two-party system than it is in a place like Britain.

01:27:53.320 Obviously, it was very, very difficult in Britain to break outside of the Conservatives or Labour.

01:27:58.080 But, as much as I think that they are just becoming the establishment again, the rise of a party-like reform and now recently Restore,

01:28:06.680 even on the far left with the Green Party gaining in popularity, does show that you can get outside of just pure Labour conservative thinking.

01:28:15.040 in a way that you basically just can't in America.

01:28:18.320 It's just Republicans or Democrats.

01:28:20.500 And I don't see that changing either.

01:28:22.220 There's too much elite capital invested in keeping it a two-party system for it to change.

01:28:30.360 All right then, shall we get the rumble rants up for this one and then we can quickly go through comments and videos.

01:28:37.480 And would you like to read, I think...

01:28:39.980 Absification. I'm wondering, why are they trying to appeal to their Muslim bloc voters? 0.95

01:28:45.040 And the majority of Iranians hate Islam.

01:28:48.500 Yeah, every Iranian I've met has not been... 1.00

01:28:51.500 You know, they've been religious in name only, really.

01:28:53.940 In that they'll say that, you know, they're Islamic, but actually they drink alcohol and they're pretty westernised as far as it goes.

01:29:01.620 But it's the regime that they don't want to counter-signal.

01:29:05.180 And I, at least from the people I've met from the Iranian diaspora, the overwhelming majority of them are against the regime.

01:29:14.460 The absification before this war, Iran was barely 30% Muslim and 50,000 of their 75,000 mosques closed down because nobody went there.

01:29:23.100 No one fasts during Ramadan in Iran.

01:29:27.180 That's a random name.

01:29:29.020 Harry's trying to be generous to another fellow ginger who's also named Harry, no less.

01:29:33.680 Coincidence.

01:29:34.820 Hashtag.

01:29:35.480 No, no hashtag.

01:29:36.220 Listen, gotta...

01:29:36.840 Ginger Harry.

01:29:37.460 Gotta stick with my brothers.

01:29:39.140 Yeah, so it's a known conspiracy in the Lotus Sphere that Harry will side with a ginger no matter what. 1.00

01:29:45.200 Yeah, that's me and Cameron sticking together forever.

01:29:48.620 We stick together.

01:29:49.620 We get to say gingers, you've got to say ginga.

01:29:52.540 You know, ginger is our word.

01:29:56.800 Go ahead.

01:29:57.500 Harry.

01:29:58.660 Seen the preview of your part two of the history of the gay rights movement.

01:30:02.480 So you deserve another Sakura video.

01:30:06.200 Thank you.

01:30:06.620 It looks like you've done another deep probing study.

01:30:09.680 No.

01:30:10.020 Getting to the bottom of the movement.

01:30:12.160 Oh, dude.

01:30:12.800 You've been plugging away at this.

01:30:14.360 Taking it on the chin no matter how hard the subject is to swallow.

01:30:19.420 I'm sure the field work has been substantial and left you with a load of information that will likely fill many more episodes.

01:30:28.860 Masterfully done.

01:30:30.420 Beautiful.

01:30:31.380 You need to put the research interest gays in Weimar. 0.97

01:30:34.620 I'm waiting.

01:30:35.840 Sadly, the Hope Not Hate report came out today.

01:30:38.620 It hit the state of hate and it didn't list me as a civil rights and gay rights expert.

01:30:43.240 But next year, after this, and hopefully the Weimar one is out by this time next year.

01:30:48.240 Hopefully they'll get, that's my MO at this point.

01:30:51.240 Yeah, it's out on Friday, on the 6th.

01:30:53.600 I'm really looking forward to it being released.

01:30:55.300 It was filmed in September or October of 2024.

01:30:59.200 The rest of that time has been spent editing and the editors do a lot of other work, which is why it took so long.

01:31:04.720 But we've been sat on it for a few months now.

01:31:06.800 Another pun there for everybody.

01:31:09.420 And I'm really looking forward to seeing everybody's response to it.

01:31:12.060 But re-watching it after the editing was done reminded me, oh god, there's a lot of really effed up stuff in here.

01:31:19.200 I completely forgot.

01:31:20.660 Because it's been so long since I was researching it.

01:31:23.340 But the Weimar one will be out afterwards.

01:31:25.780 That's not been edited yet.

01:31:27.200 We might be doing some extra stuff for that, so I don't know.

01:31:29.780 And I've got another project that I'm working on now.

01:31:32.240 About lesbians in Weimar?

01:31:35.340 He's asking for a friend.

01:31:36.560 No, the Weimar one, or it is, no, the one I'm looking into now is, like, the use of NGOs as part of the, basically, an arm of the CIA and the State Department to spread human rights across the world with, like, Edward Bernays-style tactics, like in South America with the Banana Republics.

01:31:58.080 No representation without taxation.

01:32:00.360 Um, based.

01:32:01.420 That anyone who does not pay the poll tax should forfeit his or her right to vote.

01:32:06.560 The rallying cry of the American War of Independence was, no taxation without representation.

01:32:12.840 I offer a new clarion call.

01:32:15.760 No representation without taxation.

01:32:19.340 Maybe I'm going to become an Arab. 0.98

01:32:20.740 About the idea of how enjoyable life might be if we were all a little bit more like the Arab. 0.98

01:32:24.960 To be fair, the only thing I would take from the, you know, Dubai would be their tax policy.

01:32:38.400 That's pretty good.

01:32:39.140 I do, I do like Harry Enfield always seems to be able to get away with a lot more than you would expect in those shows.

01:32:47.120 I do respect that.

01:32:48.560 Let's go through a couple of the comments and then we'll, then we'll call it a day.

01:32:53.020 Of course.

01:32:54.340 Kevin Fox says,

01:32:55.880 Wait, do you, are you not?

01:33:06.400 That's genuinely true, yeah.

01:33:07.580 Is that genuinely true?

01:33:08.640 Yeah.

01:33:09.260 You've, I've been told by a police officer that if you have a baseball bat in your car, you need the glove and the baseball.

01:33:15.220 Otherwise, they'll presume you're using it as a weapon.

01:33:20.260 Naturally, if you have a cricket bat, all you need is the ball.

01:33:23.140 I need to get a hat and a glove.

01:33:25.200 So, yeah, return to your Anglo tradition and get a cricket bat because you need one less item. 1.00

01:33:30.580 True.

01:33:32.280 He says,

01:33:32.820 When I was a minicab driver, I was not allowed to have anything in the car close to hand that could be construed, I think that's meant to say, as a weapon.

01:33:40.880 Bear in mind, on a good Saturday night, I might have 300 quid in cash in the car and was not allowed to search customers before they got in.

01:33:47.700 As a result, I kept a can of Lynx deodorant in the door pocket to keep me smelling fresh and blind any numpty who fancy kicking my taking, uh, nicking my takings, should I say. 1.00

01:33:58.020 You can also add a lighter to that and then you have your own flamethrower.

01:34:01.160 Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

01:34:03.740 Crusty burglar is, uh, always a disincentivized one.

01:34:07.300 It's not a phrase that will catch on.

01:34:08.760 Then I'll read one more.

01:34:09.820 Omar Awad, uh, remember the explicitly anti-white job openings for GCHQ?

01:34:14.680 I have to wonder how much of our security services looks like the home office.

01:34:18.400 I'd be surprised if people qualified, to be honest, unless they lowered the standards for them.

01:34:22.240 Oh, they'll lower the standards for them.

01:34:23.740 I'll read, uh, two.

01:34:24.920 Nick Taylor says,

01:34:25.780 Stelius finds out he can say cocked on YouTube, then crafts a segment around the word.

01:34:30.280 This is exactly what I did.

01:34:32.620 Right, uh, John V.

01:34:33.920 Hello, John V.

01:34:34.740 That's true, Trump offending and angering. 1.00

01:34:36.660 All of Europe was very foolish. 0.98

01:34:37.860 I remember the clip of Prince Harry going on the front lines when viral at the time. 0.95

01:34:42.500 For all of his jokes on Biden not being all there, he's not that much younger than him.

01:34:46.660 And I honestly feel like he was given bad advice in some instances like the ice shootings.

01:34:52.580 Yeah, it makes sense.

01:34:54.380 But I think Iran funding terrorism in places outside the country is what maybe makes people 0.62

01:35:00.020 not oppose Trump in this instance.

01:35:01.700 That's all fair points there.

01:35:04.240 And I'll go through a couple of mine.

01:35:06.160 Sophie Liv, I'm so tired that we can't just say no to this in reference to potentially

01:35:10.260 millions of new refugees from Iran.

01:35:13.220 Iran is a very large country, so send the kids to safe rural areas in Iran. 1.00

01:35:16.920 Um, I mean, it's a huge country, so maybe there are places like that.

01:35:20.560 Have the women work so there's still a functioning country and men have to fight for their own 1.00

01:35:24.380 dang country.

01:35:25.580 You know, like the English did when they were bombed by the Germans.

01:35:27.920 Again, the problem is that if we were to have some- if we win this war and have some kind

01:35:32.240 of occupying force and then it falls apart like 10 or 20 years down the line, then all

01:35:37.020 those people are going to, by some right, have to come over here anyway.

01:35:41.920 Which, you know, I don't think that that's how the laws of war should work.

01:35:45.800 You get involved in a foreign occupying force, you know what you're signing up for.

01:35:50.760 Like, for instance, the French who signed up to help the German occupying force in the

01:35:57.300 Second World War, they knew what they were signing up for, sad to say.

01:36:01.860 And they got what you would expect at the end of losing that war.

01:36:05.500 Um, and Henry Ashman, there's no way of telling who the Iranians turning up on small boats 1.00

01:36:12.720 really are if the regime holds and cracks down on the US-backed dissidents.

01:36:16.720 Who is to say that the Iranian boat people are truly fleeing oppression and not IRGC-aligned 1.00

01:36:21.540 people out to cause chaos and hunt down dissidents already seeking refuge in the country?

01:36:25.340 This is kind of what we were talking about as well with Turkey.

01:36:28.620 Yeah.

01:36:29.080 Using refugees as a potential weapon of war as well. 1.00

01:36:33.120 So, all of the rules on allowing these people into the country in the first place and not 1.00

01:36:37.140 just locking down our water or our sea borders is ridiculous.

01:36:41.840 That's why, from my perspective, if something like this happens, and let's phrase it differently,

01:36:47.340 to the degree that it will happen, I think the proper response from Keir Starmer and NEPM

01:36:53.240 should be to actually tackle this.

01:36:55.700 I agree.

01:36:56.200 Right, so, them counter-signalling an operation against this, the very, that very regime seems

01:37:05.320 to me to indicate a kind of lack of strong will.

01:37:09.300 You'd expect it from Starmer.

01:37:11.160 But still, at the same time, in such a situation, I wouldn't expect Tice or Farage to behave

01:37:17.540 any differently either.

01:37:18.600 Personally, I would expect them to go, well, these people are fleeing from persecution,

01:37:23.660 they're having their rights violated, so we need to let them in.

01:37:26.880 So, I, again, I see this all as part of the same establishment, ultimately, which is my

01:37:32.360 big concern with a party like Reform.

01:37:35.000 Whereas, Restore, who we've all been very positive about, do seem to be outside of the establishment

01:37:42.080 or positioning themselves outside of the establishment.

01:37:44.700 So, whatever else their flaws may be, that is a big positive for me.

01:37:49.300 And with that, that's all that we've got time for.

01:37:51.860 Thank you for sticking with us today, and thank you for watching the show.

01:37:55.300 I hope you found it interesting.

01:37:56.820 I've been joined by Josh and Stelios.

01:37:59.040 We'll see you again tomorrow.

01:38:00.160 Please take care.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - March 04, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1367

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