The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1369

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters number 1369 nice um and it is the 6th

00:00:07.820 of march 2026 i am joined by nick and firas and today i believe nick is going to talk about why

00:00:15.540 war is madness i will oh firas is yeah sorry i don't know why i thought that um you're going

00:00:22.960 to be talking about why bastani is why aaron bastani is super based the last true conservative

00:00:28.540 yeah this is my claim i'm sure that's going to be very popular with our with our audience and then

00:00:34.880 i'm going to talk about how the vikings have returned except they've been cast by netflix

00:00:39.620 um i'm not going to give you any more clues as to what that's about um but i suppose we may as well

00:00:46.640 begin thank you uh before i start i want to mention to you that the stonewall myth documentary has come

00:00:54.780 out by our very own harry robinson and it goes into the history of the stonewall movement and

00:01:03.760 it's really quite interesting uh slightly depressing slightly sad very sad but you should actually go

00:01:10.680 ahead and watch it um now i want to talk a little bit about the middle east and the war that we find

00:01:19.200 the west engaged in in the middle east with more and more countries being drawn in and i want to

00:01:26.440 talk about it really from the religious dimension because i feel that this isn't discussed enough

00:01:31.960 unfortunately and what it is it's a bit one-sided we can all agree that the muslims have a bit of an 1.00

00:01:39.620 extremism problem can we putting it a touch lightly can can we can we agree on that get where you're

00:01:46.320 coming from though um i could argue you know that old line of the problem with islamic fundamentalism

00:01:53.320 are the fundamentals of islam so is it really extremism but i 100 agree with the point you're 0.89

00:01:59.100 100 and you had the former president of iran mahmoud ahmadinejad saying to european foreign ministers

00:02:07.200 how chaos is actually a good thing because when chaos comes you see god more clearly

00:02:13.960 and maybe it'll bring about the mahdi and the end days i always thought that that god was meant to

00:02:20.840 symbolize order a divine order not a divine chaos you'd think so that seems the other guy and

00:02:27.300 incidentally that is mainstream shia thinking including by people like khamenei for example who

00:02:33.480 just got whacked in in iran so ahmadinejad was sort of riffing a little bit on his own but we can

00:02:39.520 agree that he's insane we can broadly agree that he's insane and then we can say that widely in islam 0.98

00:02:47.360 you get statements like this one um the end times shall not come until the muslims fight the jews 1.00

00:02:55.980 so and the muslims shall kill them until the jew hides behind trees and rocks and the tree or the 1.00

00:03:04.100 rock will say oh muslim oh slave of allah that is a jew behind me come kill him this was uh except for 1.00

00:03:12.360 this tree because it is a tree of the jews this is the jewish tree apparently apparently um and this 0.99

00:03:23.220 is from the hadith the statements of muhammad so it's not actually from the quran but it's accepted

00:03:28.940 as true by pretty much all mainstream muslims this was uh one of the the favorites of calum

00:03:34.580 the late calum right be upon him right um he pointed this one out to me yeah very interesting isn't

00:03:41.380 it it's written right there in the hadiths which are still very important extremely authoritative

00:03:47.000 like you you you can't go against what's in the hadith if you are going to be a mainstream muslim

00:03:52.680 you have to accept that this is part of your thinking and that this relates to the end times

00:03:59.400 the issue is that it's not just the muslims and we have to be a little bit honest about that

00:04:06.560 and it's uncomfortable you have a growing movement within judaism that is trying to build the third

00:04:14.500 temple and that requires destroying what is called the aqsa mosque allegedly on the site of the third

00:04:22.440 temple this is supposed to be the third holiest place in islam and it's the place that muslims 0.95

00:04:29.000 originally prayed towards they prayed towards jerusalem and the temple before beginning to pray

00:04:35.060 towards mecca and here there's a collection of jewish rabbis explaining that they want to rebuild the

00:04:43.320 great thumbnail pick as well there by the way uh just jeez i mean i didn't choose this this is how

00:04:51.540 it shows on youtube i have nothing to do with it but let's listen to a couple of these guys and then

00:04:56.180 maybe we can see whether or not we should be worried about this kind of extremism as well

00:05:02.860 mashiach is coming and all the jews are about to be brought back to the land of israel 1.00

00:05:09.820 and the third temple is about to be rebuilt many people forget this detail about october 7th but if

00:05:18.180 you look at the name of the operation what was it called remember storm al-aqsa if you think about it

00:05:28.400 what did it have to do with al-aqsa it was miles away but herein lies the secret to what's going on and

00:05:37.680 the chaos in the whole world the whole world knows deep down inside the muslims the christians the 1.00

00:05:44.340 atheists the buddhists you name it everybody knows it mashiach is coming what's mashiach uh the messiah 0.99

00:05:53.320 okay so this guy is saying that the messiah is coming and that the war that started on 7 october

00:05:59.740 is intended to pave the way for that and for the destruction of this mosque uh squatting on top 1.00

00:06:07.960 of the alleged site of the third temple and you're going to get this happen just for the idiots here 0.89

00:06:15.360 on this topic which is me what's the al-aqsa uh point that he's making there so basically um like i 0.92

00:06:22.040 said on the site of the temple mount there's a mosque and it's called al-aqsa and hamas named their

00:06:28.200 7 october operation the flood of al-aqsa big not the storm uh which because they cast it as a defense

00:06:37.840 of the muslim holy sites because over the last few years um the jews have been going into the site of 0.99

00:06:46.060 the third temple more and more often and praying there and muslims find that insanely offensive how 1.00

00:06:53.820 dare the jews pray at the site of the third temple so there is this extremism here now there are other

00:07:00.800 views this rabbi explains that um the the messiah cannot come through war and so i just wanted to

00:07:09.120 point that out that it's not everybody who believes that it has to be through war and this gentleman makes

00:07:15.240 that point clear that it's not going to come through bloodshed it's not going to come through war

00:07:19.460 but then you have the rebe of chabad chabad libovich are a jewish supremacist sect within

00:07:28.800 judaism they believe that other people don't have equal souls to the jews and that they only have

00:07:37.640 animal souls and only jews have truly elevated souls again this is not all jews believing that 0.99

00:07:44.440 i learned that from the epstein emails yes yes yes so it it kind of matters because chabad was asking

00:07:52.000 epstein for money by the way for just as a bit of a side note um but this man is incredibly important

00:07:59.080 he is the most influential jewish leader in the 20th century on the religious front not on the political

00:08:07.540 front and he is saying here something that i think we should listen to it's in yiddish but

00:08:15.300 you can see the translation

00:08:17.280 if the temple was not rebuilt in your lifetime it's as if it was destroyed in your lifetime

00:08:32.180 emphasizing the duty of jews to rebuild the temple on you know by removing alexa mosque 1.00

00:08:40.940 but wasn't it destroyed in the time of the romans wasn't it trajan it was destroyed in the time of

00:08:46.300 the romans and mainstream christian theology is that jesus christ is the temple and he is the living

00:08:52.660 temple and there is no need for a new temple but as we will see in a moment that is not a point of

00:09:01.440 universal agreement among christians

00:09:03.940 and this man is used to be incredibly influential

00:09:31.420 there are videos of him meeting with bankers and with business leaders and with all kinds of

00:09:37.140 others and his word was massively respected i think the uh his birthday was made the national

00:09:44.360 education day in the united states or something like that and um he received the presidential medal

00:09:51.280 of honor posthumously so he's a genuinely important person that's an interesting thing to happen

00:09:57.820 where he's saying that the person awarding him the the presidential medal presumably the president

00:10:04.000 of the united states at the time would not have an actual human soul they would have an animal soul

00:10:09.820 and yet they're awarding him a medal

00:10:11.460 okay interesting you have to make do with what you can and here's another person

00:10:18.660 in israel explaining that the third temple is going to be built and that this is absolutely necessary

00:10:25.100 and another person also a rabbi debating whether or not the levites

00:10:32.100 or whose last name is cohen essentially are going to go back to being cohen means priest

00:10:39.540 are going to go back to being priests when the temple comes when the temple is rebuilt

00:10:45.220 so this is an animating principle for a lot of jews but there is debate on how it is going to happen

00:10:52.140 and for some the war is an opportunity for that to happen and we should know this because just as we

00:11:00.200 need to know about sunni radicalism and act accordingly we should know about this kind of radicalism

00:11:07.480 given its ability to aggravate some muslims say from indonesia all the way to morocco

00:11:15.200 which is definitely going to affect europe just in that spirit of understanding what is going on

00:11:22.660 this should be understood and then you see people preparing the red heifer now to rebuild the third

00:11:30.960 temple according to some jews including this gentleman a red heifer a perfect red heifer without a blemish 0.64

00:11:39.300 must be slaughtered and then burnt and then the ashes would be used to consecrate the vessels that

00:11:47.740 will be used in the service in the temple and this is seen as a required preliminary step so you have

00:11:55.140 to conduct animal sacrifice of a red cow that can't have any spots on it yes and apparently they are

00:12:02.780 being bred in texas and a bunch of them were moved to israel and then

00:12:07.200 they finally and then last night byron stinson uh posted a video this was the first red heifer

00:12:14.840 sacrifice in over 2 000 years done with a perfect priest ritual was completed outside of the camp

00:12:22.140 lining with numbers 19 it was the perfect one it was a ceremony they did sacrifice a heifer red heifer

00:12:29.480 and they do have the ashes for the purification ceremony it was a legitimate ceremony that was done

00:12:37.840 with a cohen a priest that was done with a very qualified red heifer what if i told you that

00:12:45.700 so

00:12:47.180 i don't i don't i don't i don't even want to know where this would have gone but in the same way that

00:12:58.260 we need to understand the sources of islamic radicalism which are the quran and the sunnah

00:13:03.660 the sayings of muhammad we need to understand what's going on here because some people believe

00:13:09.220 that this pathway is going to lead to the rebuilding of uh the temple and that includes the current

00:13:18.160 american secretary of war and let's listen to him for a moment and today jennifer and i and others

00:13:25.940 had a chance to go see the western wall of the temple mount the western wall tunnels uh so much of

00:13:33.000 the old city and as you stand there you can't help but behold the miracle before you and it got me

00:13:39.080 thinking about another miracle that i hope all of you don't see too far away because 1917 was a miracle

00:13:46.500 1948 was a miracle war of independence 1967 was a miracle six-day war 2017 the declaration of jerusalem

00:13:55.560 of the capital was a miracle and there's no reason why the miracle of the re-establishment of the

00:14:01.720 temple on the temple mount is not possible

00:14:03.900 a load of rubbish like no these were things done by people um they're not miracles then much of it 0.81

00:14:13.640 was drawing up legislation i i personally do believe in the miraculous that's a different conversation 0.98

00:14:18.880 but so does he and as a christian you're supposed to believe that jesus christ is the temple and that

00:14:26.700 there is no need for another temple and indeed the physical destruction of the second temple

00:14:32.380 was precisely because it has been replaced by jesus christ if you're a christian you believe that

00:14:38.140 this is part of god's divine plan pete hexath disagrees and it really matters because right now he's

00:14:45.900 engaged in a war against iran which is going to encourage certain elements of israeli society and i'm not

00:14:54.780 saying all and i'm not saying all jews i but i am saying that this is real because we've just seen

00:15:00.880 it on video it is going to encourage them to attempt to build the third temple and this is going to

00:15:07.280 have at least some consequences it's surprisingly prevalent this christian zionism amongst the american

00:15:13.400 administration obviously ted cruz with his famous interview with tucker carlson huckabee i know you've

00:15:18.880 got coming up excess it's quite strange how how because we don't really necessarily understand that in

00:15:23.120 how widespread it is it is very widespread and it is seen as part of a divine plan and there is some

00:15:30.300 disagreement as to who wins out in this because if you're protestant you might believe that the jews

00:15:36.900 would be condemned you might not believe that uh that is a point of debate within american protestantism

00:15:45.000 um and if you are uh jewish you believe that the righteous among the nations which would include

00:15:53.960 people in their view like hexath and huckabee would have a portion in the world to come

00:16:00.340 however that is defined so there are these theological issues that are animating people

00:16:06.880 and it's one thing for this to be some random guy in israel saying i'm going to burn a cow and it's

00:16:15.140 going to bring about the temple it's a fundamentally different issue when it's the secretary of war

00:16:22.340 and the ambassador to israel and the uh i think ted cruz is the head of the foreign affairs committee

00:16:29.840 in the senate and others of that caliber who have that role in informing foreign policy you see my

00:16:38.660 intuition my thinking would be that surely christians should be against ritualistic animal sacrifice i know

00:16:48.640 i am um and so yeah that's kind of my view as well it it seems especially since it's settled in the new

00:16:56.920 testament that it is not what goes into a man that purifies him or soils him it is what comes out of

00:17:07.300 him as in what he says and how he behaves in the world that is what makes you dirty not what meal you

00:17:14.480 had for breakfast if you had bacon for breakfast you can still be clean it's fine it makes intuitive

00:17:20.300 sense yes you'd think so you'd think so and this is the mainstream christian position so these guys

00:17:26.040 are engaged in a word that i love to use which is heresy and it really matters when the ambassador

00:17:33.580 to israel the american ambassador to israel think says things like that i'm trying to understand the

00:17:38.760 implications of your theology for geopolitics because you're saying that the present government

00:17:44.420 of israel has a moral right to take over what are now other people's countries no i didn't say that

00:17:50.360 then what are you saying i saw this recently in an extremely telling exchange between the lieutenant

00:17:55.900 governor of texas who i know and i've always liked carrie excuse me i'm going to interrupt the

00:18:01.480 discussion this is not a commission on defining religions or calling out any theology or this is not

00:18:09.360 the commission for that and a woman i don't know never met who's on the religious liberty commission

00:18:15.320 or something and she said i'm a catholic and catholics do not embrace zionism just so you know

00:18:20.760 so is are all catholics anti-semites according to you he kept saying and everyone on the panel seemed

00:18:25.840 to keep saying you have to believe in israel's right to exist but it did raise two questions i think are

00:18:32.340 really important and i hope you'll answer them one is where does that right come from you could say it

00:18:37.900 comes from the bible i would say that it does they have a biblical right i just read genesis 15 as i have

00:18:43.000 many times and that land i think it says from the nile to the euphrates which is once again basically

00:18:51.000 the entire middle east so god gave that land to his people the jews or he didn't you're saying he did

00:18:57.560 what does that mean does israel have the right to that land because you're appealing to genesis

00:19:04.680 yeah you're saying that's the original deed it would be fine if they took it all it would be fine if

00:19:12.420 they took it all i understand if you feel that way and you say it in church religious liberty and all

00:19:21.360 of that if you are an ambassador to a foreign country it's different yeah i thought it was bonkers

00:19:30.220 there was even that rumor that that delayed the u.s military action in iran because it was so mental

00:19:35.100 the entire middle east went crazy over this they all went crazy over this because essentially

00:19:41.800 a key part of the american administration said to all of their allies we're gonna let the israelis

00:19:49.480 take over it's fine it's fine if they take it all his words so it really matters and the connections

00:19:57.520 around this kind of stuff are kind of important because netanyahu and jared kushner the current

00:20:05.520 american envoy to negotiate with iran um are very old friends and apparently netanyahu used to sleep

00:20:15.660 in jared kushner's bed when he visited new york was he would say do we know if kushner was in it

00:20:22.640 no no there's nothing inappropriate going on there's nothing inappropriate going on he was a

00:20:27.840 very close family friend and we have a clip of netanyahu confirming it but you can see it in the

00:20:33.280 in the segment in the comments like it's quite well known isn't it really it's quite well known that

00:20:37.440 they're very old friends and um you have here kushner visiting the wailing wall with um

00:20:46.640 ivanka and steve whitkoff the other envoy negotiating with iran but kushner is also a big supporter of

00:20:57.820 khabads the people who want to destroy al-aksa mosque and build the third temple whose rebe is on record 0.56

00:21:05.920 saying that this is kind of important and the temple has to be rebuilt and that is the according to

00:21:13.160 him the accepted site of the temple so i'm not going into a sort of history of archaeology here

00:21:20.940 are they right are they wrong completely separate from that completely separate from that it's

00:21:25.100 actually something that i don't know enough about to say but he gave them uh his family gave them

00:21:32.320 three and a half a hundred thousand dollars almost and then jared kushner himself gave khabad a million

00:21:40.880 dollars for their center in the united arab emirates

00:21:44.180 uh and he did that actually quite recently in 2024 right after trump won the elections

00:21:52.720 so you can kind of see that this ideology is held by people in power some of them are discreet about

00:22:01.840 what they say like jared kushner although their donations make their beliefs more evident 0.92

00:22:06.420 and some of them are stupidly indiscreet like mike huckabee who as a diplomat should slightly know 0.58

00:22:13.160 better but this isn't the end of the extremism here this isn't really the end of it um you have 0.98

00:22:21.280 ben gvir the security minister in israel who leads a party called jewish power and he accepted in

00:22:31.680 2020 that he needs to take down the photograph of a mass murderer who shot 29 people while they were

00:22:39.000 praying 29 muslims while they were praying in hebron a city that is believed to hold the grave of

00:22:46.080 abraham so that is quite substantial and that's exactly where he shot them and he had a photograph

00:22:52.920 of this guy up on his wall and took it down in 2020 so that he could be part of the next cabinet

00:22:59.020 he's a supporter of meir kahane um he says that he doesn't want to expel all the arabs but when he

00:23:09.060 said that he doesn't want to expel all the arabs he was roundly booed by the audience according to

00:23:15.520 the times of israel so we're not cherry picking sources or choosing sources that would be unacceptable

00:23:22.240 or anything like that and meir kahane the guy that he admires um actually started a terrorist group

00:23:31.900 and was convicted for it and one of his fans is now sitting in the israeli cabinet and he tried to pass

00:23:40.640 a law saying that non-jews in israel will be obliged to assume duties taxes and slavery if he does not

00:23:48.680 agree to slavery and taxes he will be forcibly deported now i'm not sure if slavery is an

00:23:54.440 accurate translation because it could mean indentured servitude it could mean a bunch of different things

00:23:59.880 so i just want to highlight that uh he says that a non-jew will not live within the jurisdiction of

00:24:06.740 the city of jerusalem which is kind of how the muslims don't allow anybody who isn't muslim from 0.98

00:24:12.520 entering into mecca and medina and any non-jew who has a relationship with a sex marital relationship 1.00

00:24:21.040 with a jew is liable to 50 years in prison these are part of the legislations that he suppose he 0.99

00:24:27.260 supported and one of his acolytes is now minister of security in israel and the minister of finance

00:24:36.160 is somebody who kind of shares the same views so to object to ariel sharon's plan to withdraw from

00:24:44.180 gaza um and this is according to a former deputy head of the shin bet the israeli internal security

00:24:51.040 service this guy the finance minister is described as a jewish terrorist who planned to blow up cars on a 0.96

00:24:59.920 major highway during the 2005 gaza disengagement he is a terrorist he's jewish but he's a terrorist 0.99

00:25:07.180 elan reportedly said at the time of the disengagement he wanted to blow up cars on the ayalon highway

00:25:14.080 at rush hour with gasoline we caught him with 700 liters of the stuff

00:25:20.380 now smart rich denied that this ever happened but a former deputy head of the shin bet versus a

00:25:28.380 politician i'll choose the security guy they tend to be a little more honest but i don't know for

00:25:33.760 certain and um then you have rubio saying that the israelis kind of forced america's hand into this

00:25:42.140 war i found that very interesting that it seems like the united states despite all of their martial

00:25:47.700 power um are following in the footsteps of israel and being led by them basically when they're the

00:25:54.160 ones funding it and arming it and presumably they'd be able to say no well yeah it's sort of a

00:26:00.560 fundamental problem whereby you're a significantly more powerful nation being led around by the nose

00:26:06.720 by a weaker nation who actually their existence relies on the united states if the united states

00:26:12.440 didn't defend them the nation of israel probably would no longer exist exactly exactly so there is

00:26:19.480 this reality here that and rubio is a very hardcore israel supporter full-on like hexath like obviously

00:26:28.880 jared kushner like whitkoff the other guy negotiating with the iranians and so the picture that you end up

00:26:36.820 getting is uh somewhat problematic really and what you're getting is that netanyahu is fulfilling his

00:26:45.800 dreams that he's longed for 40 years for a strike on iran and now the americans are delivering it

00:26:52.160 they are delivering it because a bunch of insane extremists are running the trump policy team when

00:27:01.880 it comes to israel and the middle east and they are associated with people who want to rebuild the

00:27:08.520 third temple triggering a bit of a problem with the muslim world all of europe would feel the 0.98

00:27:14.260 repercussions of that problem but that is how policy is being made because it's not clear that

00:27:19.640 there is a plan for what to do about iran it's not clear that iran can be you know defeated in the

00:27:27.240 conventional sense because you will get hashashin in the mountains with drones lobbying drones and

00:27:35.040 missiles at everything that passes through the persian gulf that's completely discounted from the

00:27:40.960 planning and that's how the policy is being decided for the benefit of people who believe things that

00:27:47.260 are would argue are a bit extreme i would say so i mean you argue that they're a bit extreme i think

00:27:54.000 that's putting it lightly yeah so it seems the west is strapped between two kinds of fanaticism

00:27:59.880 both of them are quite destructive both of them are don't particularly like mainstream christianity

00:28:08.080 as far as i can tell and uh that's a bit of a bad situation to be in what do you think

00:28:16.220 quite weird to think about i was just thinking it's weird to think about what would have happened

00:28:19.140 if the democrats had got in because as you say it's it's quite a it's something quite unique to

00:28:23.740 this trump administration it seems to me not really you don't think so you think it's the deep state

00:28:28.960 the permanent state republicans have always been very pro oh yeah not just the trump administration but

00:28:33.900 would the democrats have done this that's what i'm interested in in that i don't think they would

00:28:37.780 have done this in quite the same way and in fact uh the likes of hegseth and cruzan wouldn't be

00:28:42.560 around no yeah i don't think they have the same uh religious name wouldn't happen wouldn't wouldn't

00:28:48.980 have the ear of the president if a democrat had won but uh perfect timing for netanyahu to say this

00:28:55.360 you know this is what i will long for 40 years this is the moment pretty much pretty much and you

00:29:00.540 know how much money the edelson's paid and the edelson's are fully on board with this belief system

00:29:06.940 and you know that ellison has funded rubio and you kind of ask yourself well is this really how

00:29:15.100 foreign policy should be done on behalf of donors associated with religious fanatics and i don't

00:29:22.420 think that's a very good idea you get in trouble don't you for saying it i mean because people say

00:29:26.820 why as josh has said why does israel lead america but it's really not as we're pointing out here it's

00:29:31.840 not really israel it's people within the institution within the administration in america who

00:29:35.960 happen to have these views yes slightly they've also been selected for by financing haven't they

00:29:42.560 yes in that they've got to their positions because they've been uh propped up by wealthy benefactors

00:29:47.960 exactly exactly so yeah it seems to me that they're both a bit fanatical that's what i'd say

00:29:54.600 troubling times very very and sorry i went a little bit over time but that's all right it's all very

00:30:00.920 interesting oh thank you it's uh it's difficult to make heads or tails of some of this stuff you know

00:30:06.460 from from the comfort of the british isles i've never even been to the middle east let alone

00:30:11.340 understand the theological differences i've seen those pictures of you kissing the wall josh so i don't

00:30:15.700 how dare you you got your you got your money yes i've never been outside of europe and north america

00:30:21.700 thank you very much i never leave now i only visit civilized countries um okay do we read the

00:30:27.960 comments so i don't yeah i can couple there's one that's annoying about me they said i was touching

00:30:32.080 my phone what i was doing was i was checking the shot that i wasn't too out of the shot and then i

00:30:37.340 was looking up something about ted cruz right people notice everything you're not allowed to just

00:30:40.680 yeah own your own body and when you're on the internet it's like stop moving it you know i mean

00:30:45.860 people think you're being rude but actually you're being excessively polite and accommodating

00:30:49.680 me conscientious yeah and i'm timing things on my phone to this level of conscientious they can't

00:30:53.820 understand they think it's the opposite the position of chabad and indeed most orthodox sects

00:31:01.200 including my own sect is that the third temple will not be built by humans but that it will descend

00:31:06.600 from heaven that's interesting um tell me more about that on x i i really want to understand this

00:31:13.900 but the sort of statements from others might suggest something slightly different uh sigil stone says if

00:31:21.820 they're rebuilding the temple then i spicy uh archidor says if i remember correctly main reason jesus

00:31:32.640 was not accepted uh was because he was not a warrior to lead them through the conquest i mean there's

00:31:39.020 a lot of obviously when christ says that his kingdom is not of this world and the sons of zebedee are 0.99

00:31:46.280 sort of expecting him to have a more conventional kingship you sort of see that there is that element

00:31:52.740 there but i don't think that is the main reason why he wasn't excited i don't know enough to say actually

00:31:59.020 i my understanding of the biblical stories is that they condemned him to to death uh heresy

00:32:06.140 yes exactly for saying that he was the son of god yeah yeah is that meaning i'm my i should start

00:32:13.940 um okay from one heresy to another all right well i'll get on to my but first we've got to plug the

00:32:21.040 stonewall myth which is an exciting documentary at lotus eaters.com many years in the making from harry

00:32:27.540 he's been out in the field doing lots of research um he's been hiding in the bushes he's lost a lot of

00:32:33.840 dignity since no um it's harry looking at the myths around stonewall um and he's put a lot of

00:32:40.700 work and research into it and it's a very well edited thing so uh please check it out check it out

00:32:45.240 all right so my segment is called aaron bastani the last true conservative and in case you're watching

00:32:53.800 aaron i'm a tremendous fan um but someone will always pop up and say well you know he's only doing

00:32:59.340 all this just to subvert it later so there is that argument as well i'm well aware of that argument

00:33:02.680 but he does do some base tweets and uh so we're going to look at that but it's also got a serious

00:33:08.680 point which is why is bastani sounding more conservative than reform and the tories but also

00:33:14.200 the new realignment where reform seems like it's in the neoliberal center we've got the greens on the

00:33:20.260 far left we've got restore can they be a kind of nationalist alternative to the neocon center right

00:33:27.500 and that's kind of the the possible new realignment yeah the uh the dynamic is really restore like the

00:33:33.280 right wing equivalent to the greens and that they are genuinely a different paradigm to the neoliberal

00:33:38.120 center of labor lib dems reform the tories yeah um which you have the greens restore and the blob

00:33:47.360 you do yes it's a lot like that yeah and bastani of course is a fan of the greens of course he is yes

00:33:52.320 uh but it's and he will see as well how the greens you know it's an open goal for the greens all this

00:33:57.500 neoconism from the center but it's a potentially an opportunity for restore is my point but it is a

00:34:02.420 danger that the greens will take that space as we saw in gorton and denton so although obviously

00:34:06.640 restore didn't stand but let's start so here's um bastani on his groiper arc so this is too extreme

00:34:14.260 for me obviously you know aaron's gone far too far right for me here but um basically you won't play

00:34:19.320 it but basically fuentes was making a point about we all need to get together to be against the this

00:34:23.920 sort of uh you know israel war project that you've just discussed so aaron says sharing this because

00:34:29.680 particularly among all the political folks i think there's a failure to understand how widespread this

00:34:33.220 view is i'd say it's a majority view among politicized people in britain under 40 that israel directs u.s

00:34:38.620 foreign policy and aaron's like i'm just saying it and it was like why are you sharing fuentes he's

00:34:42.140 like because he thinks he's right on this occasion he's not wrong well there you go and he justifies

00:34:48.640 it here really can't overstate how rapidly the consensus on foreign policy will capsize in the

00:34:53.160 us and uk over the next 10 to 15 years perfectly happy to be called all sorts of names for making

00:34:57.220 that observation that's happening um based seems fair based bastani i'm telling you um and he makes

00:35:03.740 the case against the war here because lenehan they're arguing about when was the last time someone had won

00:35:08.500 by bombing uh i thought i could click that but i can't because i'm incompetent um boomer doesn't

00:35:14.640 really matter the point is they were um i was gonna look at the original but it doesn't really

00:35:18.960 matter because it's not a bit oh there we go i can't think of an instance when bombing a country

00:35:23.180 ended up resulting in a better situation lenehan says well just off the top of my head world war ii

00:35:27.720 but bastani says correct but nothing then since then 80 years i also don't want tens of millions to die

00:35:33.160 and for nukes to be used and dozens of cities to be reduced to rubble like dresden and coventry

00:35:37.180 for israel so that's his case um i just want to point something out uh there hasn't been any

00:35:44.500 victory just through aerial bombardment so if you want to use world war ii as an example it did involve

00:35:50.740 landing massive armies on the european continent yeah and soldiers dying by their millions as they

00:35:58.040 slogged through all of europe in order to achieve that victory so the original point that it doesn't

00:36:04.380 work just by aerial bombardment that is a well-established military fact you have to go

00:36:10.980 on the ground if you're going to win and even starma said the other day i don't believe in regime change

00:36:15.760 from the sky exactly fair point starma yeah um broken clocks so and he also goes on to point out

00:36:22.660 that of course this will displace people which can't be good for us um looney tunes maga people are

00:36:27.860 egging on infinity war in west asia reforming the tories who go on about reducing refugees are on the

00:36:33.520 same side hundreds of millions of displaced people they don't know what they're effing they're doing

00:36:37.680 as an orange friend of epstein once said so yeah framed in a very lefty way framed in a very lefty

00:36:44.760 way but he's the point is fair i made the point the day tice was saying you know we're going to go

00:36:48.800 in and even lewis goodall said to him well won't you then end up with loads of migrants from iran

00:36:53.780 and he's like well you know we'll try to not let that happen it's like but it totally

00:36:57.360 it already is happening like how retarded do you have to be to say that we're gonna try what does 0.91

00:37:03.340 that even mean iranians already in the top five groups coming here already let alone without a

00:37:09.340 massive war and a bombing campaign so i don't think it's going to change it's not going to get better

00:37:14.140 the more you bomb them is it no and aaron here agrees with uh tucker on the second order effects

00:37:19.460 maybe the biggest loser of all right now is western europe this couldn't be more correct reform

00:37:23.420 and tories are cheering it all on yes we can have a quick look because it's the migrants but it's

00:37:26.880 also the lng the liquefied gas exports there's another big loser in this war in israel's war

00:37:34.800 and this was obvious years ago and that's europe europe who cares about europe well the neocons care

00:37:42.620 about europe for reasons that are not entirely clear but you often hear the neocons the war hawks

00:37:49.100 chills for israel whatever you call them but people who supported what we're seeing now

00:37:52.540 and they're mad at the shiites and the ayatollah and the arabs and you know of course got it

00:37:57.120 but if you listen carefully there is a deep hostility hatred in fact toward western europe

00:38:02.440 and where does that come from someone should think deeply about this because it's had a big effect

00:38:06.520 over the past 80 years it doesn't matter where it comes from they hate western europe and maybe the

00:38:13.000 biggest loser of all right now is western europe so last night qatar shut down its lng exports lng is

00:38:20.540 liquefied natural gas without getting boring about it lng is essential to the global economy

00:38:25.720 it's essential to asia south korea subsists on qatarie lng exports china is a huge consumer of

00:38:31.740 them and western europe britain 40 of homes in britain are powered by qatarie lng lots of reasons

00:38:38.680 for this we blew up the downstream pipeline is one of them but it doesn't matter that's the truth

00:38:41.720 so when you shut off natural gas from qatar and it's now shut down it's 20 of the world's total

00:38:47.660 supply is shut down well you have all kinds of effects on that it crushes markets it hikes

00:38:53.160 inflation it can wreak havoc on the global economy say a prayer that it doesn't but it could but the

00:38:57.640 first thing that it does is totally shafts europe all right so quite interesting you know people might

00:39:02.720 not have thought about that i suppose it won't help his reputation as tucker kertarlson but

00:39:06.260 to say that you're going to lose your lng is quite important it really matters way beyond ad hominem

00:39:13.160 attacks yeah higher gas prices means that industries collapse and it's not just the the issue isn't just

00:39:22.320 the gas it's all of the other chemicals that also go into fertilizer and guess what it's spring

00:39:29.020 everybody's going to be planting now if fertilizer prices go up food prices go up next and even if

00:39:36.020 this war ends tomorrow because of the shutdown of the exports that has affected fertilizer prices

00:39:41.960 that hike is going to be carried over into harvest season next year and the way that uh traders operate

00:39:51.220 means that they're going to raise the prices now because they're expecting to make less money next year

00:39:56.340 very interesting so the food inflation angle it affects europe of course we all eat food it also

00:40:03.220 affects africa a lot and if you don't want a lot of immigration you don't want instability in africa

00:40:08.140 interesting there you go so obviously not everyone likes tucker i mean stelios isn't here but other

00:40:13.980 opinions are available but i think it's it's a good point about supporting the war and the second order

00:40:18.460 effects i don't think there's anything wrong here to be honest and in fact um every geopolitical action

00:40:26.120 of the neocons in the trump administration and israel has been intentionally yeah it has either

00:40:34.640 intentionally or not it's been detrimental to europe since george w bush's days yep and i i can't help

00:40:41.220 considering the consistency that it is a deliberate strategy and all it's going to do is push europe away

00:40:46.240 from the united states which is already happening which is very interesting because i've got some stuff

00:40:51.840 on that um so here bastani based bastani makes the point that actually why is the right not taking

00:40:59.480 this approach and only rupert lowe is so rupert lowe replies to farage farage says uh prime minister

00:41:04.240 needs to change his mind on use of our military bases and back the americans in this vital fight

00:41:08.400 against iran he did eventually starmer change slightly on that but lowe says before we start bombing

00:41:13.240 yet more countries i suggest you go to clacton and look around the money is needed here in britain

00:41:16.980 spent on british people that's what restore britain is all about british interests first every time

00:41:21.400 and bastani says in my limited experience this is the default among those who don't vote which is

00:41:26.000 millions upon millions of people who reform needs for a majority it's extraordinary it's taken this

00:41:29.940 long for a british right-wing politician to say this so clearly and that is a constituency if you like

00:41:34.960 that the store is looking at the the non-voter who says why are we in all these foreign wars

00:41:40.040 yeah it's not a bad angle for a store to take but reform very much backing as we've said the neocon 0.90

00:41:46.220 center there are plenty of voters as well that are pretty sympathetic to not starting wars yeah

00:41:51.640 yeah i could say it's a popular position even not just that it's the that if you are genuinely

00:41:57.360 conservative you understand that the systems of other countries are manifestations of the nature of

00:42:03.840 these countries iran will always have a very tough secret police and it will always have a religious 1.00

00:42:09.720 dimension even the shah couldn't cross the clerical establishment too much and needed their approval

00:42:16.120 and this has always been true in iran and because it's an ethnically diverse country it has to be

00:42:21.780 repressive just like russia this is what geopolitics means understanding the geography and the culture

00:42:28.580 that affect the politics that's where the term comes from and so they don't get that these countries are

00:42:36.700 the way they are for a reason that is intrinsic to them and that you can't simply show up and

00:42:44.320 download a piece of political system as though it was software because actually it's operating on

00:42:52.660 different hardware that comes from the geography and that comes from the culture well it's blank slate

00:43:00.300 french liberalism is the the core of it isn't it it's bank statism and foreign policy 1.00

00:43:04.880 exactly which is stupid inherently stupid it's a good point as well about the millions of people 1.00

00:43:10.460 because i was at the anti-irac war march someone the other day thought i must have been a baby which 0.99

00:43:14.820 i guess was flattering about my age i was not a baby um i was there and of course yeah it's and

00:43:20.460 most people don't instinctively don't want to get into these wars a million people marching in

00:43:24.980 and completely ignored by blair so the largest marches and protests in british political history

00:43:30.600 even to this day and if you count all of the marches that happen consecutively worldwide it is

00:43:35.580 the largest protest movement ever seen on planet earth and it didn't stop the war and the moneyed

00:43:40.920 class pretty much ignored everybody yeah and then destroyed iraq gave the west endless refugee flows 0.90

00:43:47.940 bailed themselves out in the financial crisis handed money over to themselves and covid and now they're

00:43:54.600 going to war again and a lot of people i never believed the wmd claims but a lot of people did

00:43:59.840 but yes the way that blair ignored as well really it really i think it disenfranchised more people

00:44:03.920 created more non-voters because they went oh we don't matter at all so elite theory for the win i

00:44:09.100 guess but um this is interesting on the america thing you just mentioned so peter hitchens had an

00:44:13.280 article and this is just an extract from it i read it but it was it was a good article and he said

00:44:17.100 what distresses me is that many tories claiming to be british conservative patriots

00:44:21.000 joined in this foreign mockery of the head of our government meaning starmer of course we have in 1.00

00:44:25.560 our midst far too many people who think that being a trumpoid republican is the same as being a british

00:44:30.440 right winger it is not and aaron just says goat so fairly fair point yeah yeah it does seem an area

00:44:36.920 that that is not explored enough the kind of american skeptic area of course there's a history of it

00:44:42.000 enoch power was skeptical about about the american empire and churchill and you know their attempt to

00:44:47.380 end our empire for their own good and whereas there's also the very pro-america side which has

00:44:52.220 obviously dominated us but of course it's worth mentioning as well that there are many americans

00:44:56.580 who are just as critical of these same things as we are so it's not necessarily that we're like

00:45:01.940 anti-american we're against what your government is doing as are many people you know i've seen many

00:45:07.240 people in our own audience that have been criticizing the same things that many critics of america and

00:45:13.280 europe have um for the same reasons that it's not good for america europe or the middle east what

00:45:19.100 they're doing yeah and this guy who i i don't like this guy at all because he was responsible for

00:45:25.820 cancelling the late sir roger scruton but uh so it's a bit rich from giving any advice to the right but

00:45:30.840 he does because he'd probably just cancel whoever followed this advice but he does say there's a big

00:45:34.400 gap in british politics for a gaulist america skeptic right i think there's something in that i think at the

00:45:39.480 minute the french are leading the charge but you know obviously gaulism comes from there 0.98

00:45:44.320 yeah there's this british gaulism idea it's never kind of really become a big it's never been a big

00:45:48.480 thing but it's always been around i think the the biggest barrier to that is that we're very

00:45:52.660 pally interpersonally whereas the the geopolitical aims are very much at odds with one another and so

00:46:00.940 it's a difficult thing to navigate because we like americans and americans like us and so to then go

00:46:07.460 against their government seems a little bit almost disloyal if you know what i mean

00:46:12.120 but does it exist no one knows um and this was really because this was a guy who came on and made

00:46:18.520 an anti a case against this military action said it wasn't planned and so on and we shouldn't be

00:46:22.580 involved and bastani being uh based again the boomer anglo with his tweed waistcoat sat in his study in

00:46:28.020 wiltshire has still got it it's never over barber nationalism of uh of bastani it's kind of funny

00:46:34.620 um this was funny i'm more conservative than kemi bay knock and i'm literally a marxist

00:46:39.340 something in it i mean there's something in it um this is funny uh bastani scrutin posting on main

00:46:47.860 i would gulag fly tippers and redirect money from abolished crangos to restore victorian architecture

00:46:53.380 and tax upvc front doors to install infinity conservation area lighting so he's always that's

00:46:59.280 actually an ironically good policy it's a good idea i think gulagging's too kind for fly tippers 0.87

00:47:04.800 to be honest well actually it doesn't restore have a policy about deporting fly tippers i read yeah

00:47:09.380 yeah so very such the bastani restore crossover no one was expecting um so but in this post he

00:47:17.120 elaborates further on the kemi thing and it's quite interesting a few days ago i jokingly said i was

00:47:21.160 more conservative than kemi bay knock except i wasn't really joking core to what was british

00:47:25.140 conservatism as a worldview it's now essentially dead is that things can always get worse in fact

00:47:30.000 they often do and to stop that tagline of our podcast for a while my dad always used to say

00:47:34.860 um in fact they often do and to stop that i would take things even in a slightly better direction

00:47:38.720 requires real thought and care to make things marginally better is an obligation but also

00:47:43.480 tremendously hard and always the work of multiple generations over time and you still need luck

00:47:48.060 i had to reconcile that with thinking marx had the best understanding about the volatility and

00:47:52.920 permanently revolutionizing nature of capitalism but actually one is more comfortable uh with the

00:47:57.800 other with the other than at first glance and he talks about all the solid melts into there which

00:48:02.380 marxists always love saying is a powerful analysis and can be adopted by anyone from socialist

00:48:06.360 revolutionaries to social conservatives indeed it has been but back to british conservatism it no

00:48:10.780 longer exists it's dead that's more visible with the permanently utopian schemes via war cheered on by

00:48:16.020 the tories and reform or most visible sorry rather than thinking things tend to get worse

00:48:21.020 that this is a default they think things can't get worse certainly abroad that things can only

00:48:25.740 get better there's a place for that certainly optimism is important but as a default thinking

00:48:30.120 regarding foreign policy it's insane and we've been paying the price for decades we will for many

00:48:34.540 more the only powerful faction in global affairs now interested in hard work getting rich

00:48:38.440 global stability and progress is ironically the chinese communist party the british right has very

00:48:43.540 few conservatives now certainly not intellectually it's just liberals who cheer on war and often

00:48:48.300 dislike muslims he's on more he's more about the mainstream there of the british right than some 0.66

00:48:55.280 of the alternative media figures because a lot of the alternative media figures i think would agree

00:49:00.220 with this whereas the mainstream right the kind of people who go on talk and gb no offense um i don't

00:49:06.180 do it anymore that's true how can it possibly i'm you've not seen a lot of my tweets about gb you're

00:49:10.060 obviously not caught up but anyway go on i don't go on twitter as much as i probably should which

00:49:13.900 no one's ever said but um yeah it's certainly true of the the commentariat class what sort of

00:49:21.160 westminster terminally m25 people yeah they're exactly like this and that is true he's also

00:49:28.440 somewhat perhaps alluding to the kind of fukuyama constant progress idea the when he talks about the

00:49:34.060 utopian everything's going to get better all the time that is still that paradigm where so the end of

00:49:38.620 history mindset still exists yeah and it certainly exists among people who think that you're going to

00:49:44.520 get a democratic iran instead of hashishin with drones yeah yeah yeah and they still think they

00:49:49.520 can go back and dominic cummings always saying they want to go back to somewhere just about the fall of

00:49:53.760 the berlin wall or 39-11 pre-financial crash and even fukuyama himself will talk about the financial

00:49:59.120 crash as a kind of blip and these things as bit of iraq wars blips rather than sort of fundamentally

00:50:03.480 disproving the theory associate of ours would might say a return to fresh prince perhaps

00:50:08.860 he might he might indeed um and aaron just adds britain was far more successful and it's political

00:50:14.060 culture far more intelligent when socialists were socialists and conservatives sought to conserve

00:50:17.840 fair i mean you think about ben versus power for example you know it was certainly much richer

00:50:23.200 discourse um and on this little point when he says it's just liberals who cheer on war and

00:50:28.120 dislike muslims i believe i know where the tweet he's got that from because he said i saw a tweet 1.00

00:50:31.600 then he didn't say which one it was maybe because it's a right-wing account but i'm sure he's thinking

00:50:34.880 of this one most of the uk right-wing figures and their followers are just liberals who don't like

00:50:38.940 muslims that's as far as it goes i actually saw him quote tweet this i think oh did he because i i saw

00:50:44.060 him just say that he'd seen a tweet okay maybe he found it and it was this one um and there's something

00:50:48.760 in that because i certainly don't want to get into the weeds of tommy robertson because we have to do a

00:50:53.640 long explanation about how he's a working class hero and was brave and so on and but at the same time

00:50:58.380 does things that are questionable and it's it's waste a lot of time but i just want to point out

00:51:02.580 there is something in that tommy's here saying bomb them lads and it's like this idea of sort of uh

00:51:08.620 very pro-israel very anti-islam but also very very sibna is a sort of strange idiosyncratic

00:51:15.160 combination and it's not necessarily real conservatism sorry but this is an awful tweet

00:51:19.460 yeah it's not good i mean these are just people lamenting the the demise of the ayatollah but

00:51:25.760 they're just normal iranians really why should you bomb them exactly yeah you just war theory

00:51:32.020 you know the christian distinction between civilian and combatant goes back to saint augustine

00:51:38.720 and it's always been understood that war is hell you should avoid it if you if it isn't necessary

00:51:44.920 you shouldn't engage in wars engage in wars of choice and if you do you make a distinction 0.99

00:51:50.220 between combatants and non-combatants and so just saying oh kill them all that's a bit crazy 0.97

00:51:56.720 yeah and why is it just yeah that one group we have to if we're gonna be if we're gonna hate people 0.96

00:52:01.960 we're gonna be consistent to hate them all whereas it seems to be there's a strange um thing that wants

00:52:06.100 to infiltrate the right which is we hate this one group but then let's be totally sieven out on

00:52:10.620 everything else and it's like it's quite a weird combination of views to have to take on

00:52:13.760 and every new party will get this foisted upon them it's like actually i'm not as if the cultural

00:52:18.180 difference only exists with muslims right right when in reality the cultural difference is very 0.98

00:52:24.400 deep between christians and buddhists between christians and hindus between christians and 0.91

00:52:29.900 animists and between christians and muslims yeah and there's also certain countries that are

00:52:33.660 problematic whether they're whatever their beliefs are coming into this country basically the only

00:52:38.640 countries that don't cause us problems are european north american and east asian they're like 0.94

00:52:45.520 everywhere else in the world there are associated problems with the people coming here i mean if you

00:52:52.000 count the chinese and the fentanyl stuff it becomes a bit of a different story and they're very

00:52:57.560 annoying in universities as well so in marginal case the japanese south koreans though you're all right 1.00

00:53:03.040 um so sorry tommy but and the other thing yeah the reason i let me just explain why i'm going

00:53:08.560 to the next week which is that it's back to this conservatism thing that basically bastani is

00:53:13.900 saying that the conservatives aren't conservative the kind of people who are core conservatives aren't

00:53:17.900 conservative and so it's true because reform really don't care about social conservatism at all

00:53:23.280 as and i realized the other day you played this clip on one of your uh segments so i i picked out

00:53:28.200 this clip though because it just shows how farage doesn't care about social conservatism at all

00:53:32.280 one it's abortion yes but also listen to what he says about the whole sexual revolution

00:53:37.260 will you undo any of it no just wanted to ask about some comments that um danny kruger made to

00:53:42.500 the house magazine recently um in an interview with our magazine he said that reform could have a

00:53:47.780 limited but important role in undoing elements of the sexual revolution i think he was specifically

00:53:51.800 talking about pronatalist policy but um i mean you know other elements of the sexual revolution

00:53:57.540 include uh abortion rights contraception lgbt rights can we expect to expect any rolling back of

00:54:04.480 any of these uh areas under a reformed government no but i do believe in freedom of the individual

00:54:15.260 you know on issues like abortion i don't think these things should ever be party political issues

00:54:20.780 it should be issues of conscience uh danny is you know somebody of a very deep christian faith

00:54:27.200 nothing wrong with that and he believes in what he believes in very strongly but that doesn't mean

00:54:30.860 it's party policy doesn't mean we'd implement it directly

00:54:34.480 yes i'll put this clip in before i realized you'd already covered it but it's an important clip

00:54:38.580 because so many things i mean one the guy says to him basically are you going to undo anything about

00:54:42.600 this establishment for example the sexual revolution oh absolutely not we're going to

00:54:46.080 change nothing don't worry that's what farage is telling them the other thing is that kruger

00:54:49.520 is working on these things but kruger's gonna be totally ignored don't worry about that we've got

00:54:52.960 this crank christian working on stuff in the background but we're not going to listen to him

00:54:56.220 okay the other thing is the abortion thing itself and the fact that farage says

00:54:59.540 it's a matter of conscience not policy i mean what on earth could that possibly mean we have

00:55:04.380 one of the most radical policies in the world which is 24 weeks not to mention the decriminalization

00:55:09.040 which has come in up to birth gone i was just going to say that at 24 weeks it's possible for the baby

00:55:15.200 to survive right and guess what we're in line with the netherlands which is never a great idea

00:55:19.160 because of the most liberal nutcases ever germany i believe is 12 weeks a lot of countries are 14 in

00:55:24.280 europe so it's not just conscious is it because if you have a conscience in germany it's different

00:55:27.980 from your conscience in britain you might have a conscience in germany but you're at 13 weeks so

00:55:31.060 it's too late so obviously it's about policy not individual conscience is part of it if you're

00:55:35.220 within the legal remit but there's a massive difference between 12 and 24 weeks it's double

00:55:39.220 so the idea that it's like oh this is not for us this is for individual conscience what are you

00:55:43.100 talking about you just accepted the most radical liberal or leftist policy on it as if that's

00:55:49.020 well it's not conscious then is it it's politics you have to have a position on it otherwise

00:55:53.120 you end up with a situation like you know the the liberal states in the united states where not

00:55:58.720 only is it legal up until the point of birth but it's celebrated and fetishized and people boast

00:56:03.700 about it and that's one of the ugliest things to have in a society you could possibly produce

00:56:09.940 through politics and some people from reform hit back on this and said well you can't have reform

00:56:14.040 running on abortion because it's an unpopular issue in britain which is true but is the larger point

00:56:18.080 about does reform have any kind of socially conservative program i think is totally valid con

00:56:22.300 i think just in terms of being honest about it um there's no constituency for opposing abortion

00:56:31.540 because so many people don't understand what it is right they don't understand that late-term

00:56:37.100 abortion involves literally dismembering a baby that can feel the pain they don't in the country where 0.88

00:56:45.600 the suffering of animals can actually be a major political issue the suffering of babies as they

00:56:51.520 get dismembered or have their skulls crushed can also be a major political issue so this is insane

00:56:59.340 it's just because nobody has picked up that banner and says this is what abortion entails this is when the

00:57:06.480 baby has a nervous system this is when it can feel pain you are literally cutting a baby to pieces

00:57:12.160 are you okay with that and once that argument is made i actually trust the public i think people

00:57:19.140 who oppose to slaughtering animals in the cruelest way will oppose slaughtering babies in the cruelest

00:57:24.480 way so it what it shows on the part of reform is a total lack of leadership all you get is vibes the

00:57:31.400 americans like this let's go with the vibe um the vibe is pro-abortion let's go with the vibe there's no

00:57:37.320 thought behind it and there's no honesty and there's no integrity you can't say that actually 0.84

00:57:43.160 i know how abortions are done and then say but i'm okay with dismembering babies i watched a video

00:57:50.220 from a former abortion doctor and if you watch that kind of thing you can't go back it's horrific yes

00:57:55.220 and then the broader point though they just don't have any to get back to the bastani thing they have

00:57:59.880 no socially conservative program they have no thought about it they're a liberal party continuing the

00:58:04.000 blairite paradigm and just more on this michael gove of course former tory now editor of the 0.72

00:58:09.700 spectator tells us that we should read a book called good slut i've actually met this woman 1.00

00:58:14.080 she's perfectly nice in person but um her book's called good slut and to give you so many ideas of 0.99

00:58:19.400 what's in the book and by the way kemi also gave a good blurb to this book uh number three will blow 1.00

00:58:24.080 your mind as they say so five bombshells from my book good slut how money sex and power get women 1.00

00:58:30.140 set women free number one capitalism is good for women false two the patriarchy doesn't exist in the 0.91

00:58:35.960 anglosphere anymore probably true three bonnie blue is a sign of the health of our society for women 1.00

00:58:40.520 however unhealthier her actions what i did say number three would blow your mind i've seen this

00:58:45.880 ridiculous thing i've seen it and it's still annoying to hear number four a woman can physically 1.00

00:58:50.500 defend herself against a man even if he's bigger and stronger than her nonsense five 40 plus is a great 0.95

00:58:55.180 time to become a first-time mother nonsense so that's those and that's ladies and gentlemen 1.00

00:58:59.400 your base conservative michael go Sean Connery somewhere just got a little bit more right

00:59:04.540 didn't he um i mean absolute mental and that's the kind of thing so just to give you an idea

00:59:10.480 yeah this is where your conservatism is and uh it's completely not conservative this is antithetical

00:59:16.560 to just morality everything she said everything she said is not true demonstrably so but she's too 0.98

00:59:24.160 stupid to know it except possibly number two that doesn't there's not really a patriarchy yeah that 0.98

00:59:28.320 that one's fair yeah those are all nonsense no there is every father with a family knows that it 1.00

00:59:32.760 exists okay even that one's wrong five for five loss the other willing to relent yeah the other

00:59:38.280 area where the the so-called right are going to be in trouble is is the greens getting the working

00:59:43.940 class vote they had this hannah spencer now you know as nick buckley pointed out she wasn't actually 0.91

00:59:48.280 that local she lived in the posh area of hail but she seemed vaguely local and she talked about

00:59:52.560 being a plumber and it was sort of connected with local people i have to say two things firstly

00:59:57.900 hannah spencer an extraordinary candidate very very strong candidate um acceptance speech we discussed

01:00:03.280 on friday night you know hit so many notes you could see goodwin behind her thinking christ this is

01:00:08.160 what my this is what my voters talk about litter fly tipping and social behavior high streets um small

01:00:15.100 businesses just you know not not getting a chance to to succeed and i think that's partly why reform is

01:00:22.000 so angry it's because they they can't just pigeonhole the greens now as these like ultra left social

01:00:28.620 liberals who will tell you off for taking a package holiday once a year right it goes on a bit but i

01:00:33.500 think that's a fair central point um and if you look you know the greens have overtaken laver in this

01:00:39.160 poll and the key part here for me was that the greens are now the most popular party in all age

01:00:43.720 categories under 50 uh here we go some 49 of 18 to 24 year olds would bat the greens as well as 27

01:00:51.260 of 25 to 49 year olds the top choice so not just the young nutters but semi not that young nutters

01:00:57.160 yeah well not that young up to 49 i mean so this is because everyone can see that the system is rigged

01:01:02.620 right everyone can see that if you have enough money robert jenrich will help you with your planning

01:01:08.160 problems and get rid of your taxes and he's been saying that he's pretending to be right-wing and

01:01:14.640 is going to pivot to the center people like nadim zahawi will talk to the financiers and they will

01:01:19.980 make sure that they're on board everybody can see that the system is rigged and that money talks and

01:01:26.320 decides policy and that is actually a problem if you're conservative you're also conservative for small

01:01:33.200 and medium businesses you're conservative for the for the sake of unions and for the sake of employees

01:01:37.880 they have a right and a say in this they no longer have a right or a say if you fled flood your their

01:01:45.300 communities with migrants because that depresses their wages and makes everything more expensive 1.00

01:01:49.280 but you should be worried about them if you're in politics whereas what reform are saying to people

01:01:55.780 is that we're going to take care of the money classes who were taken care of under labor who were 1.00

01:02:00.500 taken care of under the conservatives who will always find a way to be taken care of and can actually

01:02:05.280 take care of themselves government exists to protect the weak from the predation of the strong

01:02:11.560 that's why you need a government and these liberals don't seem to accept these basic realities

01:02:18.500 it's interesting that it just came out the reform of the most funded party now of any party so by a

01:02:23.880 significant degree as well yes and who's funding them and what do they want so that's the key yeah

01:02:28.360 very interesting and and also finally points out that you the local game of the greens you guys need

01:02:33.760 to grasp something the greens led reform by six points among under 65s in yesterday's you go poll

01:02:38.380 they were first among working age people with you go being locally visible and doing stuff about litter

01:02:43.120 fly tipping and nightmare neighbors goes a very long way so you know if they can do that of course

01:02:49.340 that's appealing to people i mean chesterton said that the greatest tragedy of our time is that

01:02:53.700 politicians are no longer close enough to kick them that no he said he said that the greatest

01:02:58.500 strategy of the time that is that not enough politicians are being hanged and he said that

01:03:04.220 all politicians should be close enough to kick them that they should be involved in local affairs that

01:03:10.700 matter to people like fly tipping like people being horrible like uh crime and so on and so forth

01:03:18.040 not be in ivory towers in the m25 taking care of the rich and and having caviar every night

01:03:24.840 yeah and um just because i've also gone over carl's not here to tell us off but um

01:03:30.440 very bad let me just point out that of course the greens will struggle under scrutiny they've got their

01:03:35.100 smack for everyone policy you know heroin and they've got all these terrible policies but win in

01:03:40.600 scotland for sure but the point is the right can't appeal to the youth with boomer slop and exactly this is

01:03:46.260 the stance that's very different with restore so britain has enough problems we should not be

01:03:49.620 bombing around rupert lowe put many tweets out to this effect so it is an opportunity for restore

01:03:54.140 britain who to be against foreign wars and they have a zoomer contingent who are concerned with the

01:03:59.420 cost of living and housing and things like that and of course the one thing they have that mr

01:04:03.740 bastani can't do is take on the immigration question because bastani's put his long tweet about

01:04:08.160 conservatism but there's nothing conservative about obscene levels of immigration now he might well say 0.98

01:04:12.720 look we need to control it but we know this is an area where the left and the greens are very very weak

01:04:16.720 they basically sound open borders whether bastani is certainly the zap polanski sounds like he's

01:04:21.600 open borders and so there's nothing conservative about that so that's green policy is fully open

01:04:26.620 borders right there are actual policy papers that were leaked at seams i think they were leaked or

01:04:31.240 something and they were like no no everybody should be able to come to britain and receive a house

01:04:37.060 and a welfare check yeah which is insane yeah but on the economic questions on the fact that there is

01:04:43.680 a deep injustice in the system and that you've got to take care of the little guy yeah they're right

01:04:48.580 yeah yeah they're wrong about how they want to pursue it but the sentiment is correct yeah that's

01:04:53.780 why i think if restored acknowledges these things but adds the immigration part they can be in a strong

01:04:57.620 position because we now have the neolib center which is tories labor lib them and or lib them a bit left 0.87

01:05:04.860 and reform and labor now thinking we've got to pivot left and try and get to the greens you've got the

01:05:09.560 greens and you've got restore i think that's probably the new layout i mean it's it's confused

01:05:13.580 because labor going to try and move further left to get back the green vote and lib dems are pretty

01:05:17.780 mad left as well but that's basically what what we have so and bastani is he the last three conservative

01:05:23.480 you can you guys can decipher what i laid out there um do we do rumble i can do that if you want

01:05:30.860 because you you do need to read ahead because they're they misbehave i've noticed that i'm 0.98

01:05:36.560 going to talk to you like a scolding father um sigil stone says good slut man what kind of 0.95

01:05:43.480 household did she grow up in i did the same check by the way sigil stone um and uh yes i i know 0.98

01:05:52.280 um uh that's random name ah yes yes another segment of why women have suffraged enough 1.00

01:06:00.880 interesting turn of phrase though there are plenty of good women out there by the way 1.00

01:06:09.060 it's just uh that good women aren't vocal about it because they don't go on social media because 1.00

01:06:14.200 they're normal um not saying that all women on social media are weird or anything but still 0.99

01:06:19.980 digging myself in a hole here yeah i think you're not getting out of this i don't know how to read

01:06:25.260 i don't care enough um where is the mouse oh it's up here i'm going the wrong way on the screen aren't

01:06:31.980 i here we are um people forget only 61 of iranians are ethnic persians i wouldn't be surprised if an

01:06:38.660 ethnic civil conflict ended up being on the horizon even if all things go right that is perfectly possible 1.00

01:06:44.100 that's exactly what i've been saying and then the last one i'm going to read oh no i'll read two

01:06:49.900 more busted brian tucker is incorrect about the lng from qatar particularly because golden pass in

01:06:56.560 the u.s will become a world exporter equivalent to qatar literally within the month interesting 0.93

01:07:02.000 that's probably on my pay grade but i hope that's the case because i don't want it to get more

01:07:07.000 expensive otherwise i'm going to be doing this podcast from a tent um i'm not even going to bother

01:07:14.280 reading that name um okay move on move on i'm glad you understood that yeah yeah it's the tree

01:07:25.120 that we mentioned that is supposed to hide the i was curious about that actually um

01:07:29.420 so the vikings are coming back to britain it seems um except netflix has been casting them and they're

01:07:36.740 not quite the tall and pale people that they used to be but they are in fact a different kind of people

01:07:42.940 but um are they going to be collecting the dangelds oh yes they will but um on a similar topic about

01:07:50.460 uh people you should keep your daughters away from harry's just come out with a new documentary 0.88

01:07:54.720 um and not only has this documentary come out but so is he talking about the stonewall myth and

01:08:02.020 all of the mythology around it and how it is wrong um he's done a lot of research there so

01:08:07.500 please do check it out i'm sure he'd very much appreciate it um because he has put a lot of time

01:08:14.220 and effort into this and it's very well produced so uh check it out and with that out of the way

01:08:19.160 i suppose we better get on to um so what i'm on about and that is this that failed asylum seeker

01:08:27.300 families are to be offered um as part of a pilot scheme up to 40 000 pounds to leave the uk

01:08:33.800 and it's worth mentioning here that employee earnings in the uk in 2025 the median uh annual

01:08:42.380 salary for a person was 39 000 pounds and so that is 1 000 pounds more than the average salary of a

01:08:51.500 person in the uk at least the median salary quite possibly you could get more than that on benefits

01:08:57.340 that is also true um so she says that um the government would seek to forcibly remove failed

01:09:04.980 asylum seekers if they do not accept incentive payments of up to 10 000 pounds per person 0.91

01:09:10.960 so if you uh capped at four per family within seven days so if you have a family of four presumably you

01:09:17.660 could get 40 000 pounds to get deported which you know is a pretty good nest egg asylum worth it right 1.00

01:09:24.700 well at this point i'm tempted to renounce my british citizenship and just go on dinghy trips

01:09:29.740 across the the channel i mean i know how to sail so why don't i just get a little sailing boat and

01:09:34.860 really make some money out of this get a huge tax rebate the amount of money you've stolen from my

01:09:39.240 family british government i could take hundreds of thousands and still you know not have recouped 0.99

01:09:44.500 everything so you are scum i hate you um give me back my money don't give it to uh foreigners it's 1.00

01:09:50.880 exactly the same premise though isn't it let if you're a student of british history 0.99

01:09:55.300 here is uh britain in the past when the vikings were here here you can see a map of the dane law

01:10:02.560 um so what we used to do um was we used to pay the vikings to go away basically leave us alone 1.00

01:10:11.200 stop raiding our shores stop raping our women and taking our money and you know what actually had to 0.98

01:10:16.200 be done because paying them didn't work we had to defeat them in a pitch battle uh and drive them

01:10:21.780 from the shores um that way and so it doesn't work is my point that paying people money to go away

01:10:30.420 makes them want to come back like it didn't work for the huns it didn't work for the vikings

01:10:35.240 it's even worse that you incentivize them to come over and then they can just fail and then get paid

01:10:39.900 to leave again is even worse than paying them once they're already here so that's even madder but

01:10:44.040 i see your point as well it's if you don't actually seal the border this is an insane policy

01:10:50.760 but they are committed to not sealing the border so what they're offering is come visit britain

01:10:57.520 fully funded taxpayer fully funded uh holiday by the taxpayers it's insane well we're we're having a

01:11:05.040 lindisfarne every day here aren't we and by the way just for context sabrana mamood's considered

01:11:09.700 beyond the pale too far right there's elite group of all the labor mps like stella creasy going oh 0.99

01:11:15.600 this is terrible we're not going to share this we're going to be mentioning that in a minute

01:11:18.180 but um yeah this is obviously not the way to do things that paying people to break into your country

01:11:24.560 i i take a much more um how do i put it third world approach to this in that if you break into

01:11:31.660 my country i'm afraid you're at my liberty you know what happens to you is up to my discretion

01:11:36.920 in the same way that if you break into somebody's home exactly whatever they do to you it's up to

01:11:42.540 them you shouldn't have broken into their home yeah i don't think people should be rewarded to

01:11:46.640 break into my country especially not um higher than the average salary um yeah what what incentive

01:11:54.820 do people have to actually work in this country when you could be an illegal migrant you could you 0.96

01:12:00.140 know for all you know you could have raped your way through europe turned up to britain

01:12:03.700 and be given a nice little nest egg to spend the rest of your life with uh in your third world 0.95

01:12:08.280 country if you actually do agree to leave and when you say sorry what incentive people have to

01:12:12.840 work unemployment in britain has just gone or in the uk has just gone higher than italy which is a

01:12:18.900 sort of benchmark for unemployment which is the euro maxing unemployment paradise but we're like

01:12:23.460 what are we doing man yeah so there's no incentive to work it's very frustrating it's sort of

01:12:28.220 you know gdp per capita in a place like ethiopia is what two thousand pounds mm-hmm

01:12:33.700 so you're paying them maybe 20 years they're becoming the builder of gates or the jeff bezels

01:12:39.180 of their country on our money right they're ultra rich and and getting a dinghy it would do it for

01:12:45.320 so much less basically you've gone in with like 40 grand oh i'd have done it for 400 quid like

01:12:50.660 it's insane well this rate i would travel from ethiopia for 40 grand you know getting a dinghy across 0.98

01:12:57.020 the channel on a calm day even an idiot can do well they do don't they um the golden ticket 0.92

01:13:02.280 but the parallels are very stark people in small boats are crossing over to britain from the 0.96

01:13:09.160 continent uh and extracting wealth from us and it's exactly the same thing and it won't work for

01:13:15.440 exactly the same reasons that you can't just pay people off you have to use force and that means

01:13:21.700 forcibly removing them legally obviously um and deporting them whether they like it or not at least

01:13:28.120 the vikings were quite cool they looked cool they were kind of tough and you've got the jorvik museum

01:13:33.100 which is fun what are we going to get out of this you can respect the vikings yeah you can respect

01:13:37.040 you can respect didn't like what they did to my people and i've i've still got 4.95 percent

01:13:41.520 you know nordic to this day just the one bit of non-english i've got i can see how that happened

01:13:46.420 but you know objectively they had a little bit more of a vibe to them than an emaciated

01:13:51.840 ethiopian didn't they had vibes they had aura

01:13:54.520 they were also had aura we were also they mogged us they were also we won in the end we won yeah we

01:14:03.200 frame mog them clearly but um they were even mutually intelligible like they come from a part of

01:14:07.980 scandinavia where the language overlapped so they weren't that foreign really in the grand scheme of

01:14:14.620 things certainly not sub-saharan african level um but to carry on with what's actually going on here

01:14:21.280 to scroll down a little bit um the scheme is expected to target about 150 families living in

01:14:28.040 taxpayer-funded accommodation and the home office estimates it could save 20 million if successful

01:14:32.400 here's a bold new idea how about you don't give taxpayer-funded accommodation to these people in the 0.95

01:14:37.820 first place then you don't have to do this stupid scheme and i know what's going on here is that 0.93

01:14:42.440 they're trying to approach it in a pragmatic sense where they're working within the system 0.97

01:14:46.380 but the problem is that the system is not moral and it should be changed at the very least if not

01:14:51.740 burnt down to the ground um you know the ashes buried and then something beautiful rebuilt anew

01:14:58.220 mainly a giant airport terminal with deportations written on the side

01:15:01.520 and then it carries on to say the uk government already runs a voluntary returns program that provides

01:15:07.800 up to three thousand pounds in financial support to eligible asylum seekers who chooses to leave the

01:15:12.480 uk um which sort of suggests that well dangling a bigger carrot might actually make the situation worse

01:15:20.220 if they're already offering to pay people and it's not working mahmoud said housing a family of free

01:15:26.180 in asylum accommodation costs up to 158 000 pounds per year i don't know what on earth they're 1.00

01:15:32.580 they're staying in but you know a family of free should not cost that much you could you could make

01:15:39.820 it cost a quarter of that and they could still live very comfortably so this is obviously being handled

01:15:45.060 to an excruciatingly incompetent degree i think faras is about to have a a breakdown aneurysm i know so

01:15:52.540 am i i've paid for this my entire life so have my family higher rate taxpayer for a long time

01:15:57.500 it's it's the kind of thing that makes me want to drop out of the system entirely out of spite

01:16:03.680 because paying tax is just funding my own destruction here and she carries on to say

01:16:09.220 and this is a direct quote where a voluntary removal is refused we will escalate to an enforced removal

01:16:14.740 for those who can be returned to their safe home country we are now consulting on precisely how the

01:16:20.500 removal of families with children must take place in a way that is humane and effective i'm afraid if you

01:16:25.240 refuse to leave our country that humanity aspect is all but gone in my opinion i don't care what you

01:16:32.740 you know what you want to need your presence here is a detriment therefore you're going

01:16:37.240 for too long families who have failed their claims have known that we are not enforcing our rules which

01:16:43.760 created a perverse incentive to make channel crossings with children in small boats which um by the way when

01:16:49.820 their children die when the boat capsizes it's the fault of the parents and no one else you shouldn't feel

01:16:54.020 bad they chose to gamble their children's lives for the sake of some welfare payments they are

01:16:59.840 fundamentally evil people for doing that no responsible parent would ever do that and so they don't

01:17:06.280 deserve to be rewarded for these sorts of things they would blame you for taking an insane risk with

01:17:11.080 their children shows a deep level of moral depravity i wouldn't say it likes to see children getting hurt

01:17:18.640 of course don't have any morality exactly it's just sort of so thoroughly immoral to do this to say

01:17:27.520 instead of i'm going to go to wherever i had to go because there is a war i'm going to try to make the

01:17:35.760 best out of it no why why can't i just live on some other people's expense without working also they're

01:17:41.540 coming from france and uh i was in france in september of last year it was very nice was that

01:17:46.820 sorry was it a safe country well i was in the french riviera in saint tropez so i think the uh

01:17:52.740 the foreign rapists were a bit priced out but um sense to to carry on um the final thing i'm going 0.99

01:18:00.220 to say is in a speech mamood also announced that asylum seekers who break the law or work illegally

01:18:04.440 will be thrown out of government funded accommodation and lose their support payments why

01:18:08.260 it's taken to 2026 to do this is beyond me um it's absolutely absurd but she's also doing some

01:18:15.140 other things as well um refugee status is becoming temporary um which should have happened a long time 0.98

01:18:22.260 ago all refugee statuses should be temporary because if you're a refugee you're there to be safe until a

01:18:28.600 conflict is over and then you return also i think having lots of exemptions to countries

01:18:33.700 that uh are dangerous would be nice you know i'm okay helping out a few ukrainians but i've got no

01:18:39.980 loyalty to a sudanese person i mean they might have been in the empire once but they chose to be

01:18:46.120 independent therefore they're no longer my problem and um here's another one um i'm here to stop study

01:18:53.120 visas from four countries due to abuse um i believe um one of these is actually your eyebrows look so weird

01:19:01.820 by the way she picked ones that were the very small part of the problem and avoided key ones that

01:19:07.260 like pakistan for example and she was asked about that she didn't rule it out in future obviously it's

01:19:12.660 gonna be quite weird for her to to rule out pakistan when she's from there but anyway yeah so it is

01:19:19.720 afghanistan cameroon myanmar and sudan which um are four countries where uh they're very unstable

01:19:27.600 and there's lots of bad things going on but there are plenty of others that could fit in that list i

01:19:33.120 have a nomination of about 150 that i would add to it but unfortunately i'm not in the government

01:19:38.360 um soon in terms of numbers they're just not not close to being the main problems that's very strange 0.98

01:19:44.560 she's trying to send a signal but it's stupid because she's being she's playing a game of chicken 1.00

01:19:50.580 with people who don't care and it's just fundamentally stupid and of course there's an element of her own 1.00

01:19:55.480 loyalties like obviously they all obviously trump everything else don't they as we've seen time and 0.97

01:20:01.060 time again so these are the leaks that you're on about yes and uh it's interesting as well that uh

01:20:06.820 the plp office parliamentary labor party office i presume is asking them to share the latest from

01:20:12.940 mad mood about this sort of stuff and all of the women here are replying no no that's terrible 0.99

01:20:19.800 blah blah and then you've got the presumably an indian person here saying i will share this um

01:20:26.980 and then also um there's a man here stella creasy long virtue signaling nonsense i'm not even going

01:20:33.900 to dignify it by reading it but yes the indian and the man are the only people that said they would

01:20:39.200 do it whereas all the women the the middle class liberal women are whining saying oh it's me no it's 1.00

01:20:45.460 terrible arm imagine being in a whatsapp group with stella creasy she's just as annoying in private 1.00

01:20:50.180 like essay like the most libtarded essays in every group no this is why i won't share it it's like oh

01:20:55.680 shut up share the policy you're in the labor party if she won't i mean all of a sudden i've become 0.56

01:21:01.160 um a massive supporter of euthanasia for myself um but i wanted to point out that this sort of thing 0.92

01:21:10.360 already goes on in the continent here's a story about sweden recently offering migrants 34 000

01:21:17.460 uh us dollars obviously they're not going to offer it in dollars but um or at least i don't think they

01:21:23.880 will but that's just what it amounts to um and in sweden they had previously got payments of the

01:21:31.280 equivalent of 1000 us dollars per adult and they've had that since 1984 and lo and behold it's not worked

01:21:38.480 it's not done anything because as we know sweden it's like all political decisions by definition

01:21:43.380 must involve the threat of violence to be enforceable well yeah of course i mean all governments

01:21:48.440 effectively have the same business model as the mafia right that you've got to rule through fear of

01:21:55.200 reprisals and if you're extracting protection money like a government does through taxation

01:22:00.260 you've also got to do the protection bit yeah which involves using hard power which these people

01:22:07.080 are completely immune to the idea of because guess what women aren't wired to understand violence 1.00

01:22:12.620 thank god for that we love women it's not their domain that's all no and and this is very present

01:22:20.860 if you've ever been walking the streets late at night with a woman there's just zero situational 0.92

01:22:25.860 awareness of male body language relating to violence i've had to explain it so many times

01:22:30.220 but anyway um in 2023 before they made these reforms to the amount the when it was just a

01:22:37.040 thousand dollars in 2023 in sweden only one person used the scheme to return home so that's why they've

01:22:43.880 raised the number um oh that was the problem yes it's just not appealing enough so in this new system

01:22:51.180 they pay a small amount when the decision is made to leave a slightly larger amount when they arrive in

01:22:56.140 their new country and the majority after 15 months in their new country at the earliest so they've at

01:23:02.060 least tried to work around the loophole whereby someone could just keep on coming back you know

01:23:09.100 join the the queue for the the soup kitchen and another payment and another payment but presumably as

01:23:16.540 soon as that threshold is ended and they receive their last payment what's stopping them from going back

01:23:21.840 there again or to a different european country if all of europe is basically just a piggy bank for

01:23:26.760 illegal migrants surely they could just country hop between lots of different countries and make far 1.00

01:23:31.960 more than the average european would make in a year um through our governments just by playing all of the

01:23:38.300 different systems and getting all of this money it's a terrible idea i keep saying the same thing

01:23:42.940 recognize eastern libya and somaliland get give them energy contracts extract some resources in exchange

01:23:51.080 they get to build a tent city you can go home or you can go to libya pick one it'll work better than 0.97

01:23:57.980 they deserve um so there are also other countries that have this sort of scheme uh denmark offers more

01:24:04.520 than 15 000 us dollars per person norway offers 1400 france 2800 germany 2000 and so has this worked

01:24:15.500 at all is germany um brimming with ethnic germans is france entirely ethnically french i don't think so

01:24:24.340 in fact it's not worked at all it's done nothing um and all it's doing is is adding a nice little

01:24:29.660 carrot at your border that if we have to get rid of you we pay you whereas you know you try into

01:24:36.320 you try to break into saudi arabia they shoot you um there's a bit of a disparity with the global

01:24:43.040 attitudes towards borders here i don't think paying people off when you've got some of the most advanced

01:24:47.920 militaries in the world is a good idea capture detain deport that's what you should be doing 1.00

01:24:53.580 um and even when you implement these harebrained schemes that don't work as is the case in sweden

01:25:00.420 recently loads of uh local municipalities this was in november of 25 um defied the government

01:25:07.920 over the voluntary research return assistance and apparently 130 out of the 290 municipalities in

01:25:16.360 sweden refused to participate because of the the poor migrants so nearly half of the 1.00

01:25:22.760 localities in the country refused to do it um because they had the power to do so um under the

01:25:29.260 auspices of it's cruel to the migrants giving them free money i mean that that is one important idea 0.58

01:25:34.620 for restore to the extent that they need cooperation with local government any local council that refuses

01:25:42.460 to cooperate with a decree on migration you just round them up and throw them in jail for a year 0.99

01:25:48.100 i'll teach them and they won't do it again well i mean what i actually think is necessary like uh

01:25:54.320 being completely serious about it is there needs to be repercussions for being deported i personally

01:25:59.740 think that every person who's deported we should have a financial figure attached to them and however

01:26:04.640 much money they've taken out of the system needs to be taken from them free force um to reimburse the

01:26:11.200 british taxpayer so their possessions need to be taken like if they if they're a debtor for example that

01:26:17.180 same sort of philosophy of they owe money so we're going to take their possessions and if they get

01:26:22.520 returned to their home country with the clothes on their back well they should have thought about 1.00

01:26:25.720 that before they ripped off the british taxpayer it's not my problem to fix the lives of people who 0.82

01:26:31.640 quite frankly are parasites on me it is it's this absurd notion that we owe them anything um and

01:26:39.080 you can't simply debank them on mass i mean they've shown us that it can be done thank you 0.78

01:26:44.920 okay now it gets done the other way well if you don't pay tax the government can take the money

01:26:49.380 out of your bank account forcefully anyway the infrastructure is already there why don't we do

01:26:54.900 that instead because then people will actually fear being deported because they will lose something

01:27:00.220 not gain 40 000 pounds um on the backs of hard-working people in this country and so yes it's a terrible

01:27:08.020 idea right sorry two minutes right up to the end there um should we play video comments um on monday

01:27:20.140 because i'd like to read a few website comments

01:27:22.480 okay no worries i don't want to miss people out i always feel bad not reading the comments out because

01:27:31.280 they're always very insightful things we've got one minute so it's gonna be impossible to do it

01:27:37.060 overrun a little bit i think but that's that's okay i think we can do five can't we

01:27:44.940 overrun a little bit so it's gonna change the oil and you can see the coal every once in a while

01:27:53.400 you can see a little bit it just throw it pretty evenly over here

01:27:57.160 oh yeah

01:27:59.320 okay i'm taking my son there thanks for that it's all from when we are a proper country

01:28:24.760 actually manufacturing things like these things actually make me happy now i see them as sort of

01:28:31.320 relics of a bygone age well it certainly is amusing to have the state of hate freaking out over those

01:28:38.260 with moderate opinions the utility of having an enemy should not be understated our friend is

01:28:45.580 going to try to spare your feelings but an enemy will find your faults and expose them without

01:28:51.020 mercy this is beneficial to those who seek to better themselves through personal growth of

01:28:57.620 course the left can't take criticism otherwise they wouldn't be the left that's what javier mille

01:29:04.000 insightfully said one of the best things he said was we've been persecuted by them for so long

01:29:08.920 that it has made us strong and now we've got the strength to destroy them basically yeah which

01:29:14.700 i think we should another cat i mean

01:29:19.580 a mouse oh no

01:29:28.700 just a cat video thank you i'm always happy to have a cat video

01:29:34.840 and here's one for luca on march 6th my local community theater company will have our opening

01:29:42.340 night for our town so before you all turn in on friday night give our town a read and remember

01:29:48.660 i'm in it and since harry's history of the gay rights movement part two comes out the same day

01:29:54.900 reading this play will help get the taste out of your mouth check out highlight acting troupe

01:30:02.120 on social media highlight acting troupe well best of luck with that i hope it all goes well

01:30:09.040 yeah right shall we read some comments oh yes let's do that uh daniel butcher says it makes sense

01:30:19.100 that jesus himself will be the third temple on on his second coming because uh who else but an evil

01:30:26.000 person would want to bring about the end times so wouldn't the idea of trying to rebuild a physical

01:30:30.340 temple to bring about the end times contradict be contradictory as those trying to build it would

01:30:35.980 be doing evil in the name of god not just that i don't trust anybody who is very confident that

01:30:43.960 they're going to be redeemed in the end times that they're going to be among the saved uh because

01:30:49.080 we're all sinners and we're all going to be held to account and if you are absolutely sure that

01:30:56.660 nothing you've done condemns you to hell then there's something a bit suspicious about you

01:31:00.760 that's that's my take on it that's why i don't like people who are operating you know to bring

01:31:09.280 about an eschatological condition okay would you like to read one from yours nick okay or um so

01:31:18.620 michael says josh i'll never see the lotus eaters as anti-american but like so many educated britains

01:31:23.560 you see through the lens of a history that built an empire and through hard experience britains look at

01:31:27.900 the u.s and say just so you know we tried that it doesn't work and zesty king had a good one

01:31:32.140 pointing out that matt goodwin had a video with aaron bastani on gb news where it's he'd listed all

01:31:37.320 these countries we didn't want to put first and bastani said what about israel and matt went what i was

01:31:41.900 completely stunned it was embarrassing it was embarrassing it was just embarrassing yeah we

01:31:47.440 should have included that maybe but anyway yeah wilden wake says uh so let's say i'm a frenchman

01:31:52.860 with 10 grand in credit card debt and i just have to cross the channel and the english taxpayer

01:31:57.360 yes i mean english taffy jock and paddy um uh yes they're net uh tax recipients aren't they

01:32:06.380 we'll pay it off great yeah i know it's uh

01:32:10.200 just our national inheritance isn't it that's being sold off to foreign raiders any honorable mentions 0.85

01:32:19.020 no well i suppose i shall leave it there but don't worry in about 27 minutes time we will have

01:32:24.860 lads hour um which we're going to be breaking down the british class system um but doing it in a an

01:32:32.160 unconventional way in that we're going to classify random things as being working middle or upper class

01:32:38.760 and uh carl also insisted that we uh mention whether they're you know right or left wing as well

01:32:44.200 so it's going to be a bit of fun we're going to explain the class system to any americans

01:32:48.620 watching um because you guys don't get it um and it although it doesn't sound it it will be fun

01:32:54.620 so thank you for watching enjoy your weekend and goodbye talk to you soon

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - March 06, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1369

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