The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1371

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters for Tuesday, the 10th of March, 2026.

00:00:05.900 I'm joined by Josh and Professor Ed Dutton, and today we're going to be talking about The Liptard and the Terrorist.

00:00:11.960 How we have a story that's literally, it's like, genuinely like a Renaissance painting,

00:00:17.260 where there's, you know, all these people doing things in different angles, and they're trying to capture a particular sort of story.

00:00:23.140 Well, it's all there in the latest attempted terror attack in New York. It's incredible.

00:00:27.580 The Liptard and the Terrorist sounds like a new Disney franchise.

00:00:30.660 It does, doesn't it?

00:00:31.300 It's only going to be profitable for that one.

00:00:33.940 Then we're going to be talking about the fact that we've got brains in jars playing video games.

00:00:39.360 I mean, that's basically a description of a lot of people these days, right?

00:00:42.740 Yeah, I've got something to aim for in the afterlife now.

00:00:44.620 And then we're going to be talking about how the government is going to force you to be socially cohesive, using the eternal power of the state.

00:00:51.920 See it, say it, source it.

00:00:53.860 It's worse than that, I'm afraid. It's far worse than that.

00:00:57.580 But before we begin, we're doing a live event on the 11th of April.

00:01:00.860 So in about a month's time, we're all going to be there.

00:01:05.160 It's in Swindon, so get the train, be fine.

00:01:08.500 It's going to be 7 o'clock till 10 o'clock on Saturday the 11th.

00:01:11.280 It's going to be great, right?

00:01:12.220 We're all going to be there.

00:01:12.940 It's going to be a big laugh.

00:01:14.360 Three hours, so it's going to be a long show of just the podcast, a debate, and then lads hour.

00:01:20.080 So it's going to be good.

00:01:21.200 Link in the description, and we'll see you there.

00:01:24.000 So, this happened on Saturday, and it was just genuinely amazing.

00:01:30.880 What you have here is, as the blaze described, a libtard in the middle of protesting against a far-right protester, counter-protester, a far-right protester.

00:01:42.120 And it is exactly as I say, we welcome everyone in the city right before a Muslim terrorist throws an explosive over his head.

00:01:49.020 We'll watch it.

00:01:49.660 It's just incredible.

00:01:51.120 It's in New York, and we want everyone here to stay in New York.

00:01:56.060 You don't get to come from outside and then tell everyone else.

00:01:59.460 Now, what's lucky about this is that the explosive didn't go off.

00:02:14.240 But look at him.

00:02:15.160 Look at him.

00:02:15.660 His face.

00:02:16.180 Oh, my God.

00:02:17.200 Something has happened.

00:02:18.840 I was expecting the kind of genteel white European politics where everyone just stands there and talks to each other.

00:02:24.280 And then, oh, actually, a jihadi has just gone, Allah Akbar, and chucked a bomb over my shoulder.

00:02:29.340 Does he have any self-preservation?

00:02:30.740 No.

00:02:31.020 He just stands there, gawping like a landed fish.

00:02:33.820 He doesn't know what he's doing.

00:02:35.260 This is genuinely the most perfect representation of leftism and immigration married together in the West.

00:02:43.900 It's a society where nothing serious.

00:02:45.840 We were talking just before we came on about outside losing their importance.

00:02:48.800 And it's a society where nothing serious happens, where there's nothing to put you in touch with death, nothing to make you actually struggle.

00:02:59.280 And then when you get to that situation, you get used to everything being done for you.

00:03:02.840 Then when something serious does happen, you haven't got the coping mechanisms.

00:03:06.680 You haven't got the preparation to deal with it.

00:03:08.100 So you just freeze.

00:03:09.560 It's learned helplessness.

00:03:10.940 I think it's a learned helplessness.

00:03:12.620 I suppose there could be a genetic component to it, but it's that you freeze like a rabbit in the headlights.

00:03:16.680 And there was this famous case, infamous case, in 94, I think it was, of the sinking of the Estonia.

00:03:23.180 And it was a Swedish booze cruise, essentially, where everyone was completely pissed in the night.

00:03:28.880 And the Estonia sank between Stockholm and Tallinn, where they'd been to get cheap.

00:03:33.820 And no one, when they investigated it, has seen so many cases of people making absolutely no attempts to escape.

00:03:40.880 Something was actually happening, Reg.

00:03:42.360 It was happening.

00:03:43.140 And these people just huddled in their cabins.

00:03:44.940 This happened at, what was it, the Swiss ski resort the other day, right?

00:03:48.740 Where, like, 40 people died because the bar had caught fire.

00:03:52.280 And they're just videoing the bar on fire and posting it on social media.

00:03:55.680 And they're like, oh, look, the bar's on fire.

00:03:57.240 It's like, okay, that's your cue to leave.

00:03:59.520 But they're standing there with their drinks in hand, watching the roof go up in flames, and 40 people died.

00:04:04.000 They're trained by us.

00:04:05.000 The society is a society where it will do everything for you.

00:04:07.960 It will look after you.

00:04:09.640 Everything will be okay.

00:04:11.060 You don't have to struggle.

00:04:12.120 And so you don't, particularly if you're people like this, and you have this leftist mindset, I suspect you've been mollycoddled a lot all your life and things like this.

00:04:18.880 Yeah.

00:04:19.060 So you don't learn to struggle.

00:04:20.280 You even think it's bad to even think to do so, to fight.

00:04:23.600 You don't do that.

00:04:24.360 That's not what left-wing people do.

00:04:25.800 That's what evil far-right people do.

00:04:27.420 So the idea that you react and that things hit in, no, no, that's not what it's about.

00:04:31.340 And as you said, with the Swiss thing as well.

00:04:33.280 I think when the, was it 77 BC, when the Romans invaded Athens, and famously, they just stood there partying and did nothing.

00:04:41.420 Well, I mean, they may have done.

00:04:43.100 I'm actually not too familiar.

00:04:44.780 I mean, I know that Sulla sacked Athens, but they can't have just stood there partying while the Romans were running around burning things down.

00:04:50.480 I heard they did.

00:04:51.500 But maybe that's wrong.

00:04:52.700 But anyway, the Estonia is the best example.

00:04:54.680 They just froze.

00:04:55.280 And so many people just couldn't, just couldn't bring themselves to realize that this is it.

00:05:01.260 This is it.

00:05:01.680 You're going to die.

00:05:03.260 That's exactly it.

00:05:04.080 It just goes to show how essentially domesticated everyone is.

00:05:07.100 Because, I mean, this, if this had, this bomb had actually gone off, it was a nail bomb.

00:05:11.760 Everyone around would have taken a handful of nails to the face.

00:05:15.700 This guy would have been dead.

00:05:17.100 The people around him, again, just who are taking photos, not doing anything, would have all been dead.

00:05:21.780 Or at least severely wounded.

00:05:23.160 And yet he stood there like an idiot, like, oh, am I going to shout into my megaphone again now?

00:05:28.160 I've got a leftist slogan I'm meant to be shouting about, diversity, tolerance, inclusion, and how everyone is welcome.

00:05:33.440 It's like, listen, man, like, and we'll, I mean, we'll take a bet now.

00:05:38.000 Do you think that this affected his worldview in any way, shape, or form?

00:05:42.180 No, of course not.

00:05:43.180 Or it just became more left-wing.

00:05:47.260 And more paranoid.

00:05:49.000 That Islamist must have been influenced by the far right.

00:05:51.840 It's the far right's fault that the Islamist behaved like that because they'd evoked him.

00:05:55.060 How did you know?

00:05:56.460 How did you know that was what the conclusion of this story was going to be?

00:05:59.800 I did, because you only told me about it about a couple of hours ago.

00:06:01.300 I know.

00:06:02.020 But I didn't have time to read about it.

00:06:04.220 But that would be what you do.

00:06:05.840 It's cognitive dissonance.

00:06:06.760 You've got to come up with a way of keeping this worldview that keeps the wolf of his mental instability and low self-esteem from the door.

00:06:15.920 And that's how you do it.

00:06:17.000 You come up with a broader conspiracy.

00:06:19.020 This was the fault of the right.

00:06:19.940 And this is exactly what Hannah the Plumber said during a debate with Matt Goodwin the other day on television.

00:06:25.940 Where Matt Goodwin was like, well, why did the Manchester Arena bombing happen?

00:06:28.360 And she said, well, because people like you cause division.

00:06:30.740 It's like, right, Matt Goodwin is responsible for the Manchester Arena bombing that killed 22 people now.

00:06:37.080 Like, you are mad.

00:06:38.740 And this is exactly, as you say, these domestic leftists unable to accept that there is a reality outside of the worldview.

00:06:45.500 Well, they parentify.

00:06:48.420 Is that the word I want?

00:06:49.140 No, that's not the word I want.

00:06:49.820 No, no.

00:06:50.200 They render children this outgroup of...

00:06:54.360 Oh, infantilists.

00:06:55.320 Yeah.

00:06:56.000 They infantilize.

00:06:56.600 That's the word.

00:06:57.420 They infantilize this outgroup.

00:07:00.480 They don't have free will.

00:07:02.240 They are children that don't respond to stimuli.

00:07:04.140 The far right is the stimuli.

00:07:05.780 They react to it.

00:07:06.660 So that's what he would, of course, think.

00:07:08.520 I also like the sort of perfect timing where he's talking about everyone being welcome in the city as someone throws a bomb over his shoulder, using him as like a springboard.

00:07:18.800 I mean, if I were to design a video to undermine left-wing ideals, this would be it.

00:07:25.200 I mean, it's genuinely hard to imagine something...

00:07:30.300 I mean, look at it.

00:07:31.060 There he is.

00:07:33.200 Like, genuinely hard to imagine a more perfect image that encapsulates the complete failure of left-wing ideology.

00:07:40.580 Yeah.

00:07:41.000 The attitude of people like him, I imagine, is essentially European people, white people, have invaded our countries and humiliated us historically in various ways.

00:07:51.180 Therefore, what we are doing is righteous and understandable vengeance.

00:07:54.960 It's jihad.

00:07:55.580 It's jihad.

00:07:56.260 And we're taking back what is ours.

00:07:58.140 And why are we able to come in and take back what is ours?

00:08:01.000 Because their menfolk are so weak and pathetic.

00:08:04.180 And the left-wing men, in particular, they probably disgust him.

00:08:09.100 They disgust him.

00:08:09.820 Oh, no doubt.

00:08:10.300 Weak, pathetic, semi-men.

00:08:12.480 Well, there's a good example of this, actually.

00:08:14.620 Because when UKIP were going to do a demonstration in Whitechapel, and then eventually the Met Police told them not to, there were left-wing counter-protests and a large Muslim contingent.

00:08:26.260 And the Muslims stayed away from the left-wingers.

00:08:29.280 And when the left-wingers, who were obviously white, said, listen, mate, we're on the same side.

00:08:34.820 And then the Muslims said, no, we're not.

00:08:36.880 Instant, no, we're not.

00:08:37.900 Yeah.

00:08:38.740 No, we're not.

00:08:39.300 Because there's a degree to which people kind of respect, in a weird way, an honest enemy.

00:08:45.700 Oh, absolutely.

00:08:46.260 And in our historical battles, you'd arrange the battle.

00:08:50.520 Then is everyone ready?

00:08:51.360 And then you'd start the battle.

00:08:53.560 And the left are not an honest enemy.

00:08:56.220 And they know that.

00:08:56.860 The left are just the weakest people and the most treacherous people that can be produced from us, from among European people.

00:09:05.980 And what they do is repellent those that are conservative.

00:09:11.240 Nobody can respect a turncoat.

00:09:13.280 Exactly.

00:09:13.640 Yeah.

00:09:14.600 So, anyway, moving on from this, there was also this, where he had a second nail bomb that he threw...

00:09:20.960 Luckily, neither one went off.

00:09:37.540 He's not very good at making nail bombs, is he?

00:09:39.080 No, thank God.

00:09:40.220 But, yeah, so this is the case.

00:09:42.300 So, anyway, the New York Times has some details that we'll just go through just to get some clarity on it.

00:09:48.180 So, the protest was done by Mr. Jacob Lang, a January the 6th protester who was jailed and pardoned by Trump, and right-wing activist, patriot.

00:09:57.800 Interviewed him quite a few times.

00:09:59.440 Yep.

00:09:59.880 And he'd done a Stop the Islamic Takeover of New York City demonstration near Zoran Mamdani's mansion in New York.

00:10:10.580 He turned up with about 20 followers as they were on.

00:10:13.020 A crowd of counter-protesters grew to more than 100.

00:10:15.640 One of Mr. Lang's fellow protesters got into a few scuffles with counter-protesters, as if they are somehow not also culpable for the scuffles, but whatever.

00:10:24.800 And then, that chap who threw the grenade and yelled at Akbar was Amir Balat, 18, of Langhorne, PA.

00:10:34.800 Where's PA?

00:10:35.620 Pennsylvania.

00:10:36.000 Pennsylvania, that's right, yeah, right.

00:10:37.100 He didn't strike me as a Pennsylvanian, personally.

00:10:39.300 Well, he didn't strike me as a New Yorker, mate.

00:10:40.620 He looked like he was from out of town, you know what I mean?

00:10:42.380 No, I'm joking, obviously.

00:10:43.100 And he was there with another chap called Ibrahim Nick, who's also a Pennsylvanian, which is really interesting because, remember, the New York guy was like, you can't just come in here and tell people they don't belong, but you can just come in here and throw nail bombs at people if you're sufficiently melanated.

00:11:02.720 Okay.

00:11:03.820 One of the two young men had told investigators that they sympathized with ISIS videos that they'd watched online.

00:11:08.500 He told investigators that the motive had to do with disrespect that Jake Lang had shown towards Islam and Muslims.

00:11:17.080 So, I mean, it's a pretty open and shut case.

00:11:20.580 Not really much to actually investigate on this.

00:11:24.980 Two Muslims from out of town didn't like this guy because he spoke against Islam and Muslims.

00:11:30.280 And so, to prove him wrong, they were trying to nail bomb him to death.

00:11:34.180 And who was standing in front of him to defend him?

00:11:36.880 A white leftist.

00:11:39.500 Yeah.

00:11:40.600 It's just everything is there.

00:11:42.340 The jihadis, like you said, were from Pennsylvania.

00:11:45.060 Nothing particularly new on that, but they just come in as...

00:11:49.560 There's also a sort of bitter irony here where you criticize Islam for being inherently violent and you respond with nail bombs.

00:11:57.020 Thank goodness they're not very good at making bombs because there'd be far more fatalities in the West were the Islamic world better at it.

00:12:04.140 Yeah.

00:12:04.360 But that's his strategy, this guy, this white guy.

00:12:06.580 That's the crucial thing.

00:12:07.700 It gets him status among other whites.

00:12:10.340 That's important.

00:12:11.060 It doesn't matter if the Muslims despise him and look down on him and think he's a semi-man or whatever.

00:12:17.880 The point is that other whites think, in some weird way, I don't understand, that he's a good man.

00:12:24.060 He's one of us.

00:12:24.580 He's on our side.

00:12:25.220 That's the crucial thing.

00:12:26.220 Well, let's carry on.

00:12:27.320 So, apparently, the two men were arrested and a third explosive device, quote-unquote, had been found.

00:12:34.280 And so, there we go.

00:12:36.000 Whether that was going to go off or not is anyone's guess.

00:12:38.660 But then you've got Jake Lang.

00:12:40.640 He posted this.

00:12:41.800 I just survived an assassination attempt by these two Muslim men.

00:12:44.520 Then they bombed, they threw, landed three free in front of me.

00:12:47.300 The detonator failed to ignite.

00:12:48.700 Blah, blah, blah.

00:12:49.280 That's true.

00:12:50.260 That's all correct.

00:12:51.600 He did just survive an assassination attempt by two Muslim men.

00:12:54.560 So, the lefty here, sorry, there we go, here is his story.

00:13:01.620 He's a, quote-unquote, comedian.

00:13:05.600 That's not me, quote-unquoting it.

00:13:07.240 That's him, quote-unquoting it.

00:13:08.980 But just some libtard activist.

00:13:11.720 I was in the middle of saying, as a born and raised New Yorker, we welcome everyone to this city.

00:13:15.980 When he threw that over my head, I still stand by it.

00:13:20.340 As a born and raised New Yorker, everyone is welcome, except Jake Lang.

00:13:24.860 So, because Jake Lang is right-wing, he's not allowed.

00:13:28.200 But even after the terror attack, he's like, no, I still welcome the Muslim from out of town into my town.

00:13:35.040 Because, as you see, for those familiar with Jake, he's an evil right-winger.

00:13:39.160 And I cannot stress enough, it was right near our feet and it did not look real.

00:13:42.620 We just stood there laughing.

00:13:44.620 Meanwhile, the incel femoids ran away having been totally jester-mogged.

00:13:49.600 I didn't expect that.

00:13:50.780 No.

00:13:51.060 What does that mean?

00:13:51.460 It means that they were wusses, because this guy threw an explosive.

00:13:55.540 But the bomb squad were like, yeah, no, it was an improvised.

00:13:58.220 Yeah, so the incel femoids, by which he means people that don't agree with his opinions,

00:14:02.240 did the sensible, adaptive, and reasonable thing, which is to get away from what could have been a bomb,

00:14:08.240 but could seriously injure them, if not kill them.

00:14:10.260 Yes.

00:14:10.520 Because their cortisol levels are interfered with, or whatever, apparently.

00:14:14.020 Whereas he's prepared to stand there and take on the bomb, and potentially signal how tough he is by not running for his life.

00:14:22.620 No, no, no, not tough.

00:14:24.620 It would be martyrdom.

00:14:25.800 A martyr, of course, yes.

00:14:27.020 This is what he's getting at.

00:14:28.360 Not only am I okay with the Muslim terrorists being here, New York is for Muslim terrorists,

00:14:33.780 but I'm going to willingly martyr myself if they throw a bomb.

00:14:38.460 These people are mental, but again, you just couldn't get a more perfect story where everything is wrapped up.

00:14:43.380 Well, I suppose he's trying to say, bring it on.

00:14:45.660 I'm so confident in that everything in my life will be okay in the end,

00:14:49.460 that I can stand next to a bomb that might explode.

00:14:52.540 It's signaling his, it was like a Messiah complex, as you said.

00:14:57.480 Yeah, and I think your point about them just never having lived near the rough edge of existence is really important here.

00:15:05.540 I cannot stress this enough.

00:15:06.860 It was right near our fate and did not look real.

00:15:08.800 We just stood there laughing.

00:15:10.200 Like, that is the laughter of the damned.

00:15:11.720 That is the laughter of people who just do not understand.

00:15:14.260 But nothing is real.

00:15:15.180 That's the thing.

00:15:15.640 Nothing is real.

00:15:16.360 Unless you experience serious psychological and physical stresses in your life,

00:15:22.420 there's a degree to which you can just kind of meander through life and nothing's really real.

00:15:26.860 They talked about this in Ernst Jünger, was that his name?

00:15:30.420 This German philosopher.

00:15:31.980 And he argued that in the, I've never been in a war, neither of you, I'm sure, neither of most of us.

00:15:36.200 But he argued in the moment of being in battle, that's the essence of being a human.

00:15:42.080 Life is no more real, and it seems eternal, and it seems amazing, and you're there, and you're striving,

00:15:49.220 and there's nothing more, there's no more heightened experience than that.

00:15:52.940 And we don't have anything even remotely similar to that.

00:15:56.500 Not even these days, not being invited to a birthday party at school.

00:16:00.960 Even that's regulated these days.

00:16:02.600 Yeah, well, just the point, you're completely right.

00:16:05.880 Like, look at the hyper-reality of the internet that then inserts itself in the second line.

00:16:10.920 Meanwhile, incel femoids have been totally jester-mocked.

00:16:14.660 Sorry, that's a very online statement, right?

00:16:17.120 That's someone who spent far too long on online circles having these, you know, pathetic online debates

00:16:23.300 and engaging in these online trends, while literally he nearly got blown up by a terrorist.

00:16:28.980 Yeah, I feel like that's an opportunity where you've actually got to be serious.

00:16:32.080 If you're making light of nearly being blown up, it just means that you're not a serious person.

00:16:37.120 You're not capable of being serious.

00:16:38.640 You're not capable of having serious thoughts.

00:16:41.200 It's one reaction, though, isn't it?

00:16:42.540 Laughing.

00:16:43.040 It's a strange psychological reaction I've never understood.

00:16:45.780 If he was laughing, and I don't know if he was, if he's just saying.

00:16:48.060 Well, he says so.

00:16:48.880 But laughing in the face of something terrible, it seems to me to be quite maladaptive.

00:16:53.400 But you get some people that do that.

00:16:54.900 If someone's furious with them, and they think they're going to get beaten up, they will start laughing.

00:16:59.580 Yes.

00:16:59.900 That's like an anxiety.

00:17:00.880 An anxiety response, yeah.

00:17:02.360 I can't see it's adaptive, because I would have thought it would have made the person angrier and angrier and angrier.

00:17:06.860 But that's what some people do.

00:17:08.780 And I'm laughing in the face of just death and of just something I can't control.

00:17:15.920 But to them, it did not look real.

00:17:17.580 I believe that he thinks this wasn't real.

00:17:19.920 I believe that he thinks this was all just a big fake or a setup or something like that.

00:17:24.180 Because exactly as you said, Ed, nothing's ever happened to him in his life.

00:17:28.180 He's been completely safe, ensconced in a series of rules and in a material base that has provided him with everything.

00:17:34.860 So all he has to do is follow the rules.

00:17:36.620 And he was.

00:17:37.100 He was standing there going, refugees, welcome.

00:17:39.520 Throw a microphone.

00:17:40.040 That's completely within the rules.

00:17:42.000 And yet, as soon as someone goes outside of the rules, he doesn't know what to do, and he just stands there.

00:17:46.800 And lucky for him, he walks away in town.

00:17:49.380 Yeah, because he's never had to think for himself.

00:17:51.020 He's never had to think for himself.

00:17:51.880 He's understood that you get somewhere in life by signaling status.

00:17:56.320 You adopt high-status beliefs.

00:17:58.940 You seem kind.

00:18:00.740 And then everything is done for you.

00:18:02.680 And people have been raised by this way.

00:18:06.020 And therefore, nothing bad has ever happened.

00:18:07.720 I was fascinated in just earlier when we were out there.

00:18:10.580 And you had this biography of Diane Abbott.

00:18:12.780 Right, yeah, we did.

00:18:13.900 And she goes through.

00:18:14.760 I'm only on sort of page five.

00:18:16.340 She's already talking about being beaten as a child.

00:18:18.460 She's already talking about something visceral and horrible and deeply unpleasant that she's had to learn coping mechanisms to deal with by getting into a relationship with Jeremy Corbyn or whatever it is.

00:18:28.860 But she found her new daddy.

00:18:31.900 But even with this, this striking, traumatic thing that she felt the need to mention.

00:18:37.900 I don't think in order to kind of get sympathy.

00:18:39.960 I think because it was just a child.

00:18:41.120 No, I genuinely believe that it was.

00:18:42.780 Yeah, but this guy clearly hasn't gone through any of that.

00:18:45.400 Anyway, so what do you think the Muslim mayor had to say about the terrorist attack in his city?

00:18:52.600 Well, let's find out, shall we?

00:18:54.320 Good morning.

00:19:02.980 On Saturday, a protest was held outside Gracie Mansion, where I live with my wife, Rama.

00:19:09.740 Neither of us were home at the time.

00:19:12.800 This was a vile protest rooted in white supremacy entitled Stop the Islamic Takeover of New York City.

00:19:19.600 I'm the first Muslim mayor of our city.

00:19:22.200 Anti-Muslim bigotry is nothing new to me, nor is it anything new for the one million or so Muslim New Yorkers who know this city as our home.

00:19:31.780 It was literally just a terror attack by a Muslim because he likes ISIS and he doesn't like people talking against Muslims.

00:19:40.060 He tried to murder as many people as he could, and that's how he opens it.

00:19:43.880 That's about as naked a sort of in-group self-interest statement you could possibly make, right?

00:19:49.740 I just don't know how you would make it even more so if you wanted to be like, no, Muslims are my guys, and I'm not going to denounce them.

00:19:58.980 I'm going to denounce you.

00:20:00.160 The only way it could be worse, really, is if he praised the person who threw the bomb.

00:20:05.920 Yeah, the person who threw the bomb was a social justice activist.

00:20:08.240 In his defense, he doesn't praise the person.

00:20:11.860 But you'll notice this is a statement he put out on this, as you can see here.

00:20:15.720 He says, well, you know, white supremacist Jake Lang organized a protest, blah, blah, blah.

00:20:19.680 What followed was even more disturbing.

00:20:21.940 Violence at a protest is never accepted.

00:20:23.500 Well, what happened?

00:20:25.120 Right?

00:20:25.340 Notice how detached from an individual this is.

00:20:28.400 They always use neutral language when talking about violence when they've done something wrong.

00:20:32.600 Non-specific, non-personal language.

00:20:35.140 The attempt to use an explosive device to hurt others is not only criminal, it is reprehensible, and the antithesis of who we are.

00:20:40.300 Look at the way that's framed.

00:20:41.400 You wouldn't know that he's not talking about Jake Lang there, right?

00:20:45.080 You wouldn't know that a Muslim had run up and chucked a bomb of people.

00:20:50.040 From the way it's written, Jake Lang is the only named person.

00:20:53.000 He's been condemned as a white supremacist.

00:20:54.820 He's an affront to the city's values.

00:20:56.940 And then something happened afterwards, and there was violence and an attempt to use an explosive device.

00:21:02.360 Why would I not think he means Jake Lang from this description?

00:21:06.180 Like, this, I can only assume is a deliberate attempt to defend the terrorist because the terrorist is a Muslim.

00:21:12.060 This is pretty much all of politics, though, isn't it?

00:21:15.040 Everything's framed in this sort of way whereby the maximum political capital for you is always sought, rather than what is fair or what is true.

00:21:24.260 Yeah, the Muslim car inherently can't do anything wrong.

00:21:29.080 Yes.

00:21:29.340 So, therefore, that creates this conflict in his mind.

00:21:32.640 The only way you can deal with it is by presenting the truth in a way that doesn't remind you of what actually is the truth.

00:21:38.580 And then it feels a lot better.

00:21:40.800 I mean, genuinely, if you just keep reading this, it's like, well, so did Jake Lang throw a bomb?

00:21:45.500 And then the officers ran towards danger?

00:21:47.880 Again, did he throw a bomb at the officers?

00:21:50.000 No.

00:21:50.520 It was a terrorist who threw the bomb at the officers and at Jake Lang.

00:21:53.960 But you wouldn't know that from this description.

00:21:57.340 There's no mention of a terrorist.

00:21:58.620 Well, it's the, what's the word?

00:21:59.900 It's the, oh God, what's it called?

00:22:03.960 Reifying?

00:22:04.500 Yes, that's it.

00:22:05.080 It's the reifying of violence.

00:22:06.700 What happened was there was this racism and bigotry, and that's terrible, and that's related to Jake Lang.

00:22:10.880 And then violence was sent down like a thunderbolt somehow.

00:22:15.360 The world decided that there should be some violence and happened, coincidentally, to use a Muslim as a conduit.

00:22:22.760 But that's incidental.

00:22:25.620 So the God, it's almost kind of implicitly religious.

00:22:28.440 After that, reprehensibly, the bad God that exists somewhere, bad God, bad God decided some violence would manifest.

00:22:36.780 But the state was there to take care of it.

00:22:39.960 Fortunately.

00:22:40.800 Officers ran towards the state.

00:22:42.360 The state was there.

00:22:43.100 You didn't need to do anything.

00:22:44.600 And lucky for you, it didn't blow up.

00:22:45.820 So, you know, keep laughing.

00:22:47.920 But anyway, like I said, this is a particularly pernicious statement.

00:22:50.700 So it just kind of implies that Jake Lang is the guy who threw the bomb and was responsible for the violence, as you said.

00:22:56.200 And so, I mean, going to the man who was arrested doesn't exactly look like he's ashamed of his actions, does it?

00:23:05.400 Well, he's going to be rewarded from his in-group, isn't he?

00:23:08.100 For his actions, he's going to be seen as a hero in Islamic communities.

00:23:12.660 And then ultimately he'll be rewarded in paradise.

00:23:15.440 Yeah.

00:23:15.840 And because he didn't actually kill anyone, he's probably not going to get that long in jail.

00:23:20.220 Because he's 19, probably his first defense.

00:23:23.260 And no one actually died, even though he tried to murder a bunch of people.

00:23:27.720 So he's probably going to be back on the streets within a few years.

00:23:31.440 If even that, to be honest, given New York's judges.

00:23:35.360 So, great.

00:23:36.700 We've learned a lot here, haven't we?

00:23:38.700 We've learned that the left will literally embrace terrorism.

00:23:41.380 And we have learned that the Muslim man in charge will literally imply that it's you that's causing the terrorism.

00:23:48.640 And there will be no...

00:23:49.840 There's something quite reassuring, though, in a way.

00:23:51.660 Because it implies that when things really do break down, which they inevitably will,

00:23:57.340 then a lot of the left will just freeze.

00:24:00.600 Well, yeah, but we knew that.

00:24:01.720 We knew that.

00:24:02.180 But it makes it very, very clear that they will just freeze, which creates a vacuum in which proper sensible people can actually take charge and do things.

00:24:11.240 So, I know they freeze in the face of all kinds of things, but this is in the face of actual immediate death.

00:24:18.540 And they still freeze.

00:24:19.680 I didn't quite realize they could do that.

00:24:21.720 To be honest with you, this is exactly what I expected, frankly.

00:24:24.520 Anyway, the internet's already making animes about this.

00:24:28.220 For the sake of time, I won't play it.

00:24:29.740 But it's a surprisingly accurate and good use of AI, actually.

00:24:34.280 This is one of the few things AI is actually good for, which is creating political parody.

00:24:38.560 Anyway, we'll leave that there.

00:24:40.160 Just, you know, make sure you've learned a lesson from this.

00:24:44.020 OPHUK says,

00:24:44.900 Let's just prove libtars have zero self-preservation instincts,

00:24:48.140 which is why they vote for importing more Islam.

00:24:50.540 Calling them NPCs has never been more accurate.

00:24:52.480 Yeah, I mean, literally, people who are programmed by the status signals of society

00:24:59.040 and can only respond in these ways.

00:25:01.720 They're actual NPCs.

00:25:03.080 Let's move on.

00:25:04.440 So, I never thought I would present this segment.

00:25:07.060 I'm going to be talking about virtual brains,

00:25:10.300 creations of brains using supercomputers,

00:25:13.480 as well as some other things as well.

00:25:16.300 There's an example of human brain cells in a Petri dish able to play Doom,

00:25:21.920 which we'll get on to.

00:25:22.940 There's basically a complete model of part of a mouse brain,

00:25:28.820 a complete model of the entirety of a fly's brain.

00:25:32.060 And it's looking likely that eventually, when the technology allows us,

00:25:37.000 there'll be complete models of human brains.

00:25:40.720 And human brains will be able to exist in the digital sphere

00:25:44.580 exactly the same as they do in your head,

00:25:47.680 at least from, you know, a neuronal level.

00:25:52.620 So, I'm going to talk about the mouse one first,

00:25:56.440 because I'm going to go through it in chronological order

00:25:58.540 of how these technologies have emerged.

00:26:01.740 And using the Japanese, I need to be careful how I say this,

00:26:06.320 Fagaku supercomputer,

00:26:08.840 researchers have modelled the entirety of a mouse cortex.

00:26:12.240 And a cortex is just the outside of your brain.

00:26:15.540 It's like the part closest to the surface.

00:26:17.720 And it simulates almost 10 million neurons or 26 billion synapses.

00:26:23.740 Obviously, neurons are the sort of currency of the brain, so to speak,

00:26:28.460 although I could put that probably a bit better.

00:26:30.260 And synapses are how these communicate with one another in a network.

00:26:34.820 And this includes 86 interconnected brain regions.

00:26:37.880 So, all of this has been modelled using real mouse brains,

00:26:41.420 and it's been recreated in a computer.

00:26:44.760 And also, this virtual mouse brain has a virtual mouse body,

00:26:49.460 because they found that if you just have the brain in isolation,

00:26:52.640 it doesn't really react in the same way.

00:26:55.220 So, you have to create a virtual body as well,

00:26:57.680 which is interesting for it to behave in predictable ways,

00:27:02.000 similar to the real deal.

00:27:04.100 And it actually captures the structure and behaviour of the brain cells

00:27:08.420 down to the branches coming from the neurons themselves,

00:27:11.020 and so there's a profound amount of detail here,

00:27:14.340 and it manages to record things like activations of synapses.

00:27:18.780 And it's to the point now, in terms of accuracy,

00:27:21.860 that if you touch the mouse's whiskers,

00:27:24.440 the part of the brain is activated in the model

00:27:27.540 in the same part that a real mouse would have activation,

00:27:31.580 and they can compare the two,

00:27:33.320 and they're incredibly accurate,

00:27:35.520 which is surprising.

00:27:37.160 I mean, first of all, what do you both think of this so far?

00:27:41.020 It's very frightening.

00:27:42.820 It is a little bit scary, isn't it?

00:27:44.360 It seems very science fiction.

00:27:46.040 Yeah, it's dystopian science fiction coming through.

00:27:50.280 So, what are we eventually going to have?

00:27:51.880 It will be like a science fiction film.

00:27:53.960 Humans that are robots, that are indistinguishable,

00:27:56.400 completely indistinguishable from humans,

00:27:58.900 that have actual brains,

00:28:00.500 not the kind of brains that would fail the Turing test either,

00:28:03.880 just brains that are created by humans.

00:28:06.420 And so, it's biblical.

00:28:08.420 I mean, it's suddenly, we are God creating people.

00:28:12.940 It's like that film, what was it called?

00:28:16.240 Oh God, that film where the Swedish actress,

00:28:19.660 and she plays a robot.

00:28:22.000 It's a very, very realistic.

00:28:23.520 I can't recall.

00:28:24.260 Ex Machina.

00:28:25.260 Oh yeah, good film actually.

00:28:26.560 Yeah, it's like that.

00:28:29.240 She's indistinguishable,

00:28:30.580 except that she needs to kind of charge up occasionally.

00:28:34.000 So, yeah, this is what you were saying earlier.

00:28:37.000 Maybe science has just gone too far.

00:28:38.840 Yeah.

00:28:39.060 Just stop, for God's sake, stop.

00:28:41.240 But Larry and Jihad now,

00:28:42.700 just some...

00:28:43.560 Civilization generally collapses at some stage,

00:28:47.020 and we can't, we can't.

00:28:48.540 This is absurd.

00:28:50.220 Too much.

00:28:50.980 It's gone too far.

00:28:51.700 Stop.

00:28:52.960 Yeah, I just hate it.

00:28:54.060 I just hate it.

00:28:55.020 I'll leave my verdict for a bit later there.

00:28:57.240 That's okay.

00:28:58.060 So, this allows researchers to test hypotheses virtually though,

00:29:02.400 so you can model how Alzheimer's or epilepsy can spread

00:29:06.380 to better understand them and create a cure,

00:29:08.720 because it's easier to observe how it affects the brain in the model

00:29:12.780 rather than in real life.

00:29:14.140 And of course, they will be comparing it to real life,

00:29:16.240 but it means that they have greater resources available.

00:29:19.600 So, there is potentially some good that can come of it

00:29:21.860 if it's restricted to that domain at least.

00:29:25.560 But as with most things, there are no restrictions on them.

00:29:29.120 There are no reductions in scope creep.

00:29:32.920 It will inevitably expand.

00:29:34.340 If it's a model of the brain,

00:29:35.580 does it have the effects of the brain,

00:29:38.800 the things that brains do?

00:29:41.100 Yeah, of course.

00:29:42.140 That's what I was talking about with the whiskers.

00:29:43.880 There is a little virtual mouse consciousness,

00:29:46.240 that is struggling to understand why it can't get the cheese.

00:29:51.180 Maybe not quite like that,

00:29:52.860 but you're on the right sort of lines,

00:29:54.440 that it is a creation of part of a mouse brain.

00:29:58.100 It's not the full one.

00:29:59.380 Presumably it doesn't involve things like hormones.

00:30:02.040 No, because, of course, the main difference,

00:30:05.240 and I'll get onto this a bit later,

00:30:06.920 between a physical brain and a computational one,

00:30:11.360 is that their signaling is going to be very different, isn't it?

00:30:14.620 And so the neurochemical nature of a biological brain

00:30:20.240 might always be different to that of a virtual one,

00:30:23.480 unless we get biological computers

00:30:25.460 that can perfectly simulate a biological brain,

00:30:28.900 but we're very far away from that yet,

00:30:31.240 at least to my understanding.

00:30:33.560 And so there may well be an ever-present difference

00:30:36.940 between the two,

00:30:37.740 which might be a sort of bottleneck for this technology.

00:30:41.640 But the aim of these researchers,

00:30:43.860 as explicitly stated,

00:30:45.960 is to model a whole mouse brain

00:30:48.480 and then eventually work their way up

00:30:50.180 so they can model the human brain.

00:30:52.360 But it's worth mentioning

00:30:53.460 that a mouse brain has 75 million neurons

00:30:56.620 and a human brain has 1,000 times that,

00:30:59.720 and they've not even modeled the whole mouse brain yet.

00:31:01.780 So it's a technological trajectory,

00:31:04.500 but it's got a long way to go yet,

00:31:07.060 because the bottleneck for this,

00:31:09.280 more than anything,

00:31:10.100 is just computational power.

00:31:12.180 If there's some sort of breakthrough in computation,

00:31:14.100 there's no reason why...

00:31:15.480 So the price of RAM is going to continue to go up,

00:31:18.020 is what you're saying.

00:31:18.720 Yes.

00:31:19.860 I know, it's unfortunate, isn't it?

00:31:21.400 But it's even to the point

00:31:26.880 whereby they showed films to mice.

00:31:31.920 They were showing Mad Max to mice,

00:31:34.480 which you've got to wonder...

00:31:39.720 What?

00:31:40.520 I know.

00:31:41.240 I don't see how...

00:31:42.080 My impression of mice,

00:31:43.240 or at least of cats,

00:31:44.200 is that they're not very interested in watching films.

00:31:46.460 Yes.

00:31:46.700 At least not Mad Max.

00:31:47.620 Occasionally get excited by wildlife documentaries.

00:31:49.620 But if you're a mouse,

00:31:50.580 you don't want to watch Mad Max.

00:31:51.560 That's scary.

00:31:52.200 You want to watch...

00:31:53.020 Well, the justification is

00:31:54.900 that they have low-resolution vision,

00:31:57.320 similar to our peripheral vision,

00:31:59.260 which means it works mainly on...

00:32:00.960 So Mad Max?

00:32:01.680 ...on movement,

00:32:03.040 rather than, say, details and colour.

00:32:04.800 What kind of films do Flys like?

00:32:06.760 I don't know.

00:32:07.700 I've never asked one.

00:32:09.220 The Fly.

00:32:10.200 But mice apparently like...

00:32:11.160 I like Mad Max too, but like...

00:32:12.800 Mice apparently like action films.

00:32:14.380 They're the ones that captivate their attention the most,

00:32:16.960 which...

00:32:17.560 Watching Commando.

00:32:19.620 But that would work.

00:32:20.600 But the idea is it captivates their attention,

00:32:23.720 at least somewhat,

00:32:24.500 which is measurable.

00:32:25.640 So then they have something to measure

00:32:28.700 the real mice against the fake mice, I suppose.

00:32:32.520 So they recorded more than 900 minutes of brain activity

00:32:35.140 from eight different mice watching films,

00:32:37.700 including Mad Max,

00:32:38.580 and then use cameras to monitor

00:32:42.020 their eye movements and behaviour.

00:32:44.020 And, you know,

00:32:44.640 there's been lots of study in mice.

00:32:48.040 At some point,

00:32:49.500 there's got to be some sort of reviews.

00:32:51.040 Like, right, Jenkins,

00:32:52.220 what have you been doing this week?

00:32:53.960 I've been making mice watch Mad Max, sir.

00:32:57.280 Over and over 900 hours.

00:32:59.660 Is that a good use of your time?

00:33:01.960 This is why I train to be a scientist.

00:33:03.320 Is that a good use of money?

00:33:06.020 I need a mouse IMDb next.

00:33:09.040 But yes,

00:33:09.760 researchers aggregated the data

00:33:11.380 to train a core model,

00:33:12.940 which could then be customised

00:33:14.640 into a digital twin

00:33:15.700 of any individual mouse

00:33:17.420 with an additional bit of training.

00:33:19.920 And then one of the researchers

00:33:21.460 working on the project

00:33:22.620 described the models

00:33:23.500 as impressively accurate.

00:33:25.200 So they could model...

00:33:26.720 We can model mice watching Mad Max, sir.

00:33:29.900 You never thought you'd hear that today.

00:33:31.220 Is there any reason why they chose Mad Max

00:33:32.580 specifically over any other kind of film?

00:33:34.560 I presume it was just an action film

00:33:36.120 that was out at the time

00:33:37.240 they were doing the research.

00:33:38.100 Oh, okay.

00:33:38.660 So it was one of the more contemporary ones.

00:33:40.100 What real-world applications

00:33:41.360 does this have, Jenkins?

00:33:42.820 Well, not many, sir.

00:33:44.420 Very few mice actually watch Mad Max on their own.

00:33:47.100 It's just a source of stimuli, really.

00:33:49.220 But, um...

00:33:50.740 You'd think they'd have them

00:33:51.880 running through a maze

00:33:52.620 getting cheese or something, right?

00:33:54.260 And check the stimuli from that.

00:33:55.460 No, we're going to make them

00:33:56.320 like, eyes open, watch Mad Max.

00:33:58.380 You can play a game of mousetrap.

00:34:00.360 Yeah, sorry.

00:34:01.220 So the model can at least exist

00:34:03.660 longer than any lifespan

00:34:05.200 of an individual mouse.

00:34:06.540 And so, in theory,

00:34:07.280 researchers, once they've created this model,

00:34:10.260 can conduct experiments

00:34:12.080 that would have taken years

00:34:14.260 in mere hours.

00:34:15.080 So it's going to create

00:34:15.520 really, really realistic tamagotchis.

00:34:17.980 Yes, you can have your...

00:34:19.320 Did you have a tamagotchi?

00:34:20.460 I didn't have one.

00:34:21.280 I hated the idea, actually.

00:34:22.680 I remember watching

00:34:23.660 The Madness of King George

00:34:25.260 in the cinema in Chelsea,

00:34:26.740 and someone's tamagotchi went off.

00:34:29.680 And, of course,

00:34:30.320 if you don't feel it,

00:34:30.940 it dies.

00:34:31.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:32.260 You can't turn them off.

00:34:33.260 So she had to get it out

00:34:34.520 and leave the cinema

00:34:35.340 and pay attention

00:34:36.940 and whatever.

00:34:37.780 I just...

00:34:38.280 So every day,

00:34:39.780 I have an update on the

00:34:41.080 I hope this is the one thing

00:34:42.440 future archaeologists

00:34:44.040 dig up from our civilization.

00:34:46.160 And now I hope it's the hard drive

00:34:47.560 that contains

00:34:48.120 the simulated mouse brain

00:34:49.340 watching Mad Max.

00:34:50.780 And so future archaeologists

00:34:51.920 are piecing this together.

00:34:52.780 It's like, yeah, I think...

00:34:53.680 Oh, my God.

00:34:54.380 It seems to be a mouse

00:34:56.060 that has been trained

00:34:56.960 to watch Mad Max

00:34:58.100 over and over and over.

00:34:59.200 Why did they do this?

00:35:01.500 What?

00:35:02.620 Sorry, God.

00:35:03.500 All of a sudden,

00:35:04.140 they started being really concerned

00:35:05.980 about gathering resources

00:35:07.160 like oil and water.

00:35:08.600 We couldn't put our finger on it.

00:35:10.660 Oh, waste.

00:35:11.680 Sorry, God.

00:35:12.740 In theory,

00:35:13.620 this could speed up

00:35:15.340 research on rodents

00:35:17.420 because, of course,

00:35:18.460 it being in a computer

00:35:19.180 not using real mice,

00:35:20.760 you don't have the same lifespan.

00:35:23.680 And you've got the power

00:35:24.940 of a computer

00:35:25.560 so you can accelerate

00:35:27.580 the development of science

00:35:28.980 rather rapidly.

00:35:30.620 So there are already

00:35:31.540 some new insights.

00:35:32.740 We were unsure

00:35:33.680 why neurons select

00:35:35.480 specific neurons

00:35:36.340 to connect to in our brains.

00:35:38.320 And we found that neurons

00:35:39.260 prefer to connect with neurons

00:35:40.480 that respond to the same stimulus.

00:35:42.680 The color blue

00:35:43.640 is the example given

00:35:44.540 by the researchers.

00:35:46.140 And so they pair to things

00:35:47.580 that have similarities to them,

00:35:49.200 like people, really.

00:35:50.960 Worked out why

00:35:51.460 the mice only give it

00:35:52.660 a 6 out of 10 on.

00:35:53.680 We're not quite that good yet.

00:35:56.640 We'll get there.

00:35:58.200 So how is this

00:35:59.580 even possible

00:36:00.260 in the first place?

00:36:01.140 I think that's

00:36:01.560 a reasonable question

00:36:02.600 to ask.

00:36:03.320 And that's because...

00:36:04.200 Is it a pact with the devil?

00:36:06.660 I can't answer that one.

00:36:08.160 But what I can answer

00:36:09.000 is the psychological aspects.

00:36:10.920 So individual neurons

00:36:12.000 perform simple

00:36:13.800 electrochemical operations.

00:36:15.760 But when billions

00:36:16.380 of them interact,

00:36:17.700 complex cognitive processes

00:36:19.020 emerge,

00:36:19.500 such as things like

00:36:20.200 perception, memory,

00:36:21.080 and language.

00:36:22.100 It's these neural networks

00:36:23.400 that are formed together

00:36:25.860 that create the phenomena

00:36:27.460 that we associate

00:36:28.840 with our own mind

00:36:30.200 and, of course,

00:36:30.880 the minds of animals as well.

00:36:32.780 So basically,

00:36:33.680 complexity emerges

00:36:34.600 from the structure

00:36:35.660 of the network.

00:36:36.540 And that seems to be

00:36:38.300 vindicated here

00:36:39.540 because they can predictably

00:36:41.140 predict, I suppose,

00:36:43.560 that a mouse even

00:36:47.180 will behave in the same way

00:36:49.060 as its model

00:36:49.600 and vice versa.

00:36:51.080 And so it seems to suggest

00:36:52.340 that actually the important thing

00:36:53.560 is the structure of the mind

00:36:54.840 and not necessarily

00:36:55.720 whether it's biological

00:36:56.680 or virtual.

00:36:58.120 But my sort of hesitation

00:37:01.600 with this is that

00:37:02.800 a biological brain

00:37:04.540 is always going to be

00:37:05.320 different than a computer

00:37:06.200 because it is biological

00:37:07.820 in nature

00:37:08.460 and so it's going to

00:37:09.500 behave differently

00:37:10.380 because at the atomic level

00:37:12.820 it's going to be different

00:37:13.740 even if the structures

00:37:15.000 look superficially similar.

00:37:16.240 So it's also going to change

00:37:17.640 in time.

00:37:18.460 It's not a single static thing.

00:37:20.020 Yeah.

00:37:20.380 And I think that

00:37:21.320 it's one thing

00:37:22.140 to model the neurons

00:37:23.380 but then adding

00:37:24.740 the neurochemical elements

00:37:26.160 and all the complex interactions.

00:37:28.060 It might be, say,

00:37:29.240 95% accurate

00:37:30.440 at the minute

00:37:31.000 but getting...

00:37:32.720 It changes over time though

00:37:33.500 like a car

00:37:34.380 things wear out

00:37:36.180 over time.

00:37:38.240 It's used more

00:37:39.000 and more

00:37:39.200 and more

00:37:39.400 and more

00:37:39.700 but it parallels

00:37:40.860 even in that way

00:37:41.680 and it's going to

00:37:42.620 degenerate over time

00:37:43.640 and bits are going to

00:37:44.340 have to be replaced.

00:37:45.300 There's going to be...

00:37:46.160 I mean, let's assume

00:37:46.740 you did like a perfect map

00:37:47.860 of this mouse brain

00:37:48.680 in one period of time.

00:37:50.200 As that changes

00:37:51.180 and the mouse brain changes

00:37:52.080 they're going to

00:37:52.440 diverge apart anyway.

00:37:53.480 They will diverge apart, yeah.

00:37:54.400 Well, that's the same

00:37:54.940 as if you create

00:37:55.780 a clone of yourself

00:37:56.680 and your experiences diverge.

00:37:58.300 It's the same

00:37:59.160 dominant really.

00:38:00.360 This is why

00:38:00.640 the transhumanism stuff

00:38:01.600 is not as I'm going to

00:38:02.360 upload my consciousness

00:38:04.460 to the cloud

00:38:04.980 and say,

00:38:05.660 okay, but that's not you

00:38:06.700 and it changes

00:38:08.160 like the second

00:38:08.960 that happens

00:38:09.500 you and it

00:38:09.940 have different experiences

00:38:10.960 and you're not

00:38:11.340 the same thing anyway.

00:38:12.440 I agree.

00:38:12.700 So this is all nonsense.

00:38:13.920 But this technology

00:38:14.720 and they're explicitly

00:38:15.760 talking about this

00:38:16.760 is the foundation

00:38:18.340 to being able

00:38:19.160 to do that

00:38:19.820 and the researchers

00:38:20.560 are explicitly saying

00:38:21.520 that it is going

00:38:22.700 to be possible

00:38:23.220 eventually to transfer

00:38:24.300 your consciousness

00:38:25.080 from your own

00:38:26.500 real brain

00:38:27.400 to a virtual one

00:38:29.340 if this carries on

00:38:31.360 which to my mind

00:38:33.020 is a little bit scary

00:38:34.440 because I think

00:38:35.560 it will change you.

00:38:37.340 You will be different

00:38:38.200 by merit of being

00:38:39.420 in a computer

00:38:40.040 rather than in your body.

00:38:41.980 But also,

00:38:42.500 most people don't even

00:38:43.460 deserve one consciousness.

00:38:45.360 They barely use it.

00:38:46.520 I have my doubts

00:38:47.200 about how conscious

00:38:47.940 some people are.

00:38:48.420 Exactly.

00:38:49.040 Can you imagine

00:38:49.680 just millions of people

00:38:52.040 just replicating

00:38:52.780 their own consciousnesses

00:38:53.780 out of vanity?

00:38:54.520 Awful.

00:38:55.380 How conscious are you

00:38:56.820 if you hear things like

00:38:57.900 see it, say it,

00:38:58.680 sort it,

00:38:59.200 and think that's a

00:38:59.960 brilliant and pretty thing

00:39:01.100 to do

00:39:01.480 and I will definitely

00:39:02.580 say it

00:39:03.320 and it will be sorted.

00:39:04.740 You're not conscious.

00:39:05.520 You're just a mouthful

00:39:06.220 of the party slogans.

00:39:07.560 You don't have to think.

00:39:08.780 To the idea that

00:39:09.300 such a semi-conscious person

00:39:12.320 should upload

00:39:13.460 their semi-consciousness

00:39:14.620 to some cloud

00:39:15.420 so that there's

00:39:16.060 their semi-consciousness

00:39:17.380 where they say things

00:39:18.240 like multiculturalism

00:39:19.120 built Britain

00:39:19.640 or whatever,

00:39:20.120 immigration built Britain.

00:39:21.460 And then they have

00:39:22.280 a computer

00:39:23.300 that's saying

00:39:23.780 the same thing.

00:39:24.300 It's just hideous.

00:39:25.040 The scariest thing is

00:39:25.800 they'll probably have

00:39:26.520 an even greater capacity

00:39:27.700 to do harm

00:39:28.360 because they'll have

00:39:29.100 all the computing power

00:39:30.460 available to them.

00:39:31.620 There's no limit

00:39:32.300 or bottleneck.

00:39:33.020 If you can connect

00:39:33.700 to multiple computers

00:39:34.600 or you're in a supercomputer

00:39:35.920 presumably

00:39:36.580 you're going to be better

00:39:38.320 at certain things

00:39:39.100 than your actual

00:39:39.680 biological brain.

00:39:40.920 And then morality

00:39:41.460 has been drawn exclusively

00:39:42.520 from dystopian

00:39:43.600 post-apocalyptic films.

00:39:45.520 Apparently so, yeah.

00:39:47.200 We're going to have

00:39:47.740 some very sinister mice

00:39:49.440 on our hands

00:39:50.100 virtually.

00:39:51.480 But the parallels

00:39:52.840 are enough

00:39:54.560 that it could create

00:39:56.280 convincing results

00:39:57.140 and I just wanted

00:39:57.760 to break down

00:39:58.500 how the brain

00:39:59.360 and computers work

00:40:00.440 and how they're

00:40:01.340 sort of similar

00:40:01.900 although my expertise

00:40:02.900 is in the brain

00:40:03.700 and not in computers

00:40:04.620 and so if I get

00:40:06.120 the computational aspect

00:40:07.220 slightly wrong

00:40:08.160 I'm sorry.

00:40:09.060 But basically

00:40:10.060 the nodes

00:40:11.100 in the brain

00:40:12.240 and the computer

00:40:12.880 in the brain

00:40:14.280 it's neurons

00:40:15.000 in a computer

00:40:16.140 it's transistors

00:40:17.000 and logic gates.

00:40:18.420 The connections

00:40:18.980 are synapses

00:40:19.840 in the brain

00:40:20.480 in a computer

00:40:21.280 it's circuits

00:40:21.980 and signals

00:40:22.780 in the brain

00:40:23.760 are electrochemical

00:40:24.720 spikes

00:40:25.560 or neurochemicals

00:40:27.200 whereas in a computer

00:40:28.940 it's electrical

00:40:29.560 voltage states

00:40:30.740 and then the

00:40:31.780 computation in the brain

00:40:32.780 are patterns of activation

00:40:33.920 across neural networks

00:40:35.240 whereas a computer

00:40:35.900 it's logical operations

00:40:37.100 and state transitions.

00:40:39.700 And so there are

00:40:40.600 parallels here

00:40:41.420 but these are not

00:40:42.100 quite the same things

00:40:43.400 but it does mean

00:40:45.280 that there's enough

00:40:46.060 overlap

00:40:46.640 that I see

00:40:47.900 things like this

00:40:48.840 working I think.

00:40:51.040 But let's go on

00:40:52.260 to the fly

00:40:53.140 shall we?

00:40:53.640 Not the film

00:40:54.520 with Jeff Goldblum

00:40:55.280 but this one

00:40:57.220 and let me just

00:40:58.040 show you a video

00:40:58.780 which is a simulation

00:41:01.040 of a fly's behaviour

00:41:02.320 it's not an animation

00:41:03.120 it's not a

00:41:03.680 you know

00:41:04.560 something that someone

00:41:05.380 has created

00:41:06.100 this is the model

00:41:07.640 of the fly's brain

00:41:08.740 at work

00:41:09.380 I'm going to mute it

00:41:10.520 just in case

00:41:11.200 music is copyrighted.

00:41:12.880 So just a

00:41:13.500 quick thing on this

00:41:14.320 you can make it

00:41:15.040 full screen

00:41:15.740 why do we need

00:41:18.480 to model a fly's brain?

00:41:20.340 It's a stepping stone

00:41:21.200 to model more

00:41:21.920 complex things

00:41:23.040 and a fly's brain

00:41:24.380 is quite simple

00:41:26.080 this is a lot

00:41:27.220 you can model

00:41:28.240 a whole fly's brain

00:41:29.340 and it's actually

00:41:29.920 simpler than

00:41:31.660 why do they do

00:41:32.280 that?

00:41:32.580 a mouse brain

00:41:33.080 that thing

00:41:33.600 cleaning

00:41:34.120 yeah it's like

00:41:35.360 cleaning the

00:41:36.200 they're scheming

00:41:37.280 aren't they?

00:41:37.620 they're rubbing

00:41:37.860 their hands

00:41:38.160 that's what I'd

00:41:38.800 assume

00:41:39.020 they eat shit

00:41:40.220 all day

00:41:40.500 they've got to

00:41:40.860 keep clean

00:41:41.380 but it's

00:41:43.160 okay

00:41:43.920 but it looked

00:41:46.200 pretty convincing

00:41:47.360 it behaved like

00:41:48.100 flies I've seen

00:41:48.880 I bet

00:41:49.520 yeah

00:41:49.800 it looked pretty

00:41:51.100 real

00:41:51.540 but this is

00:41:53.820 the first

00:41:54.500 embodiment

00:41:55.200 of a whole

00:41:55.720 brain

00:41:56.180 and it

00:41:57.580 produces

00:41:58.000 multiple

00:41:58.420 behaviours

00:41:59.040 as well

00:41:59.400 not just

00:41:59.880 one as

00:42:00.300 we're able

00:42:00.920 to observe

00:42:02.200 and this

00:42:03.200 is a

00:42:03.920 drossophila

00:42:04.920 melanogaster

00:42:06.660 brain

00:42:07.120 that's the

00:42:07.480 name of the

00:42:07.840 fly

00:42:08.240 and it

00:42:08.760 has 125

00:42:09.480 000 neurones

00:42:10.740 and 50

00:42:11.380 million

00:42:11.740 synaptic

00:42:12.320 connections

00:42:12.760 so it's

00:42:13.200 still simpler

00:42:13.960 than the

00:42:14.420 mice cortex

00:42:15.520 apparently so

00:42:17.080 yeah

00:42:17.300 that's what

00:42:17.920 they told me

00:42:18.500 but the

00:42:19.340 model predicts

00:42:19.980 the fly's

00:42:20.360 behaviour to

00:42:21.160 a level of

00:42:21.920 95%

00:42:22.860 accuracy

00:42:23.440 but as I

00:42:24.240 was saying

00:42:24.580 earlier

00:42:24.960 that remaining

00:42:25.900 5% is going

00:42:26.840 to be increasingly

00:42:27.580 difficult to

00:42:28.260 model

00:42:28.560 because

00:42:29.380 so a fly

00:42:30.060 would notice

00:42:30.540 and think

00:42:30.840 hang on

00:42:31.200 that's a bit

00:42:31.520 weird

00:42:31.800 yeah

00:42:32.520 sort of in a

00:42:33.740 fly uncanny

00:42:34.540 valley

00:42:34.920 it's like a

00:42:35.420 schizophrenic fly

00:42:36.520 what's going on

00:42:38.040 here

00:42:38.240 I'm quite worried

00:42:40.280 I'm going to

00:42:40.540 clean myself

00:42:41.300 the fly's just

00:42:42.760 like no

00:42:43.220 I see you

00:42:44.120 something's

00:42:45.680 dodgy

00:42:45.960 going on

00:42:46.460 but um

00:42:49.220 the way it

00:42:50.480 works is

00:42:51.040 sensory um

00:42:52.320 input flows

00:42:53.160 in neural

00:42:53.580 activity

00:42:54.040 propagates

00:42:54.640 through the

00:42:55.740 complete

00:42:56.420 connectome

00:42:57.180 motor commands

00:42:58.340 flow out

00:42:58.860 and a

00:42:59.080 physical

00:42:59.400 simulated

00:43:00.460 body

00:43:00.800 executes

00:43:01.460 the output

00:43:02.040 um

00:43:03.120 and then

00:43:03.720 closing the

00:43:04.400 loop from

00:43:04.840 perception to

00:43:05.480 action for

00:43:05.940 the first

00:43:06.300 time in a

00:43:06.880 whole brain

00:43:07.420 emulation

00:43:07.980 those are the

00:43:08.460 direct words

00:43:09.020 of the

00:43:09.240 scientists

00:43:09.520 that worked

00:43:10.020 on it

00:43:10.340 um

00:43:11.280 but

00:43:11.740 this technology

00:43:13.400 does pave the

00:43:14.040 way to

00:43:14.460 things also

00:43:15.160 that we

00:43:15.460 haven't mentioned

00:43:16.060 things like

00:43:16.580 the matrix

00:43:17.060 if you can

00:43:17.580 simulate the

00:43:18.100 entirety of

00:43:18.680 a fly

00:43:19.160 then you can

00:43:20.260 simulate it in

00:43:21.160 virtual reality

00:43:22.080 which means if

00:43:22.740 you can simulate

00:43:23.320 that sort of

00:43:24.940 thing then you

00:43:25.380 can simulate

00:43:25.880 other biological

00:43:26.920 things and

00:43:27.640 eventually you

00:43:28.280 could create

00:43:28.900 a completely

00:43:30.060 uh

00:43:31.080 synthetic world

00:43:32.220 in which

00:43:33.160 your synthetic

00:43:34.400 brain can exist

00:43:35.420 in which

00:43:36.760 is probably the

00:43:37.920 end goal of

00:43:38.560 all of this

00:43:38.920 end state

00:43:40.060 essentially sort

00:43:40.660 of randomly

00:43:41.080 generate human

00:43:41.860 brains existing

00:43:43.220 in cyberspace

00:43:44.180 to be

00:43:45.000 npcs

00:43:46.320 which is

00:43:47.040 hyper

00:43:47.380 realistic

00:43:47.820 npcs in

00:43:49.120 skyrim or

00:43:49.820 something

00:43:50.040 yeah

00:43:50.500 you're just

00:43:51.300 making grand

00:43:51.880 theft auto 5

00:43:52.700 a reality

00:43:53.180 yeah

00:43:53.620 i assume the

00:43:55.360 people that are

00:43:55.960 in grand theft

00:43:56.440 auto 5 that

00:43:57.120 are the npcs

00:43:57.820 don't think of

00:43:58.400 themselves as

00:43:58.820 npcs

00:43:59.300 i presume they

00:44:00.540 don't think at

00:44:01.080 all right

00:44:01.420 yeah i don't

00:44:01.980 know how

00:44:02.220 complicated the

00:44:02.820 brain modeling

00:44:03.380 is

00:44:03.740 having played

00:44:04.620 the game

00:44:04.980 it's pretty

00:44:05.320 simple

00:44:05.720 shout things

00:44:07.720 yeah

00:44:08.020 so the final

00:44:09.700 thing i wanted

00:44:10.120 to look at

00:44:10.740 was something

00:44:11.840 slightly different

00:44:12.560 than the previous

00:44:13.180 ones we've

00:44:13.640 talked about

00:44:14.100 and that is

00:44:14.960 uh that uh

00:44:16.320 that human

00:44:17.420 brain cells

00:44:18.220 have learned

00:44:19.140 how to play

00:44:19.880 doom at a

00:44:20.800 better level

00:44:21.360 than random

00:44:21.960 yeah well that's

00:44:22.980 not very impressive

00:44:23.620 my brain cells

00:44:24.500 have learned how

00:44:24.960 to play doom

00:44:25.520 yes but

00:44:26.440 you're you're

00:44:27.260 you've got a

00:44:28.240 whole brain and

00:44:29.040 your brain is

00:44:29.600 not in a jar

00:44:30.420 somewhere

00:44:30.940 i doubt i'm

00:44:31.500 using my whole

00:44:31.980 brain when i'm

00:44:32.440 playing doom

00:44:32.940 i mean come

00:44:34.160 on

00:44:34.400 i mean it's a

00:44:35.340 good game

00:44:35.740 it's a great

00:44:36.220 game but like

00:44:36.920 you know

00:44:37.260 anyway

00:44:37.820 so um

00:44:39.620 in 2021

00:44:40.560 an australian

00:44:41.460 company called

00:44:42.160 cortical labs

00:44:43.160 used neuron

00:44:44.300 powered computer

00:44:45.080 chips to play

00:44:45.640 pong so this

00:44:46.480 was the first

00:44:47.180 thing they did

00:44:48.000 yeah um

00:44:48.980 which basically

00:44:49.440 consisted of

00:44:50.060 lumps of more

00:44:50.900 than about 800

00:44:51.660 000 living brain

00:44:52.760 cells

00:44:53.260 from who

00:44:54.000 um i don't

00:44:55.460 know where

00:44:55.940 they got them

00:44:56.320 from you just

00:44:57.400 get brain cells

00:44:58.320 do you

00:44:59.020 i don't know

00:44:59.720 chinese black

00:45:00.360 market perhaps

00:45:01.020 who knows

00:45:01.400 i'm sure

00:45:02.540 brave robbers

00:45:03.220 yeah but

00:45:04.000 probably someone

00:45:04.880 donating them to

00:45:05.880 science i guess

00:45:06.700 i don't know who's

00:45:07.220 got them to spare

00:45:07.840 but um dead

00:45:08.800 people just oh

00:45:09.880 yeah we just

00:45:10.280 happen to have

00:45:11.000 800 000 human

00:45:12.000 brain cells i'll

00:45:12.780 do i'll do you

00:45:13.480 right what you

00:45:13.840 can do with it

00:45:14.320 we're gonna make

00:45:15.400 them think that

00:45:16.100 they live in a

00:45:17.020 world that's

00:45:17.420 constantly beset by

00:45:18.200 demons and that

00:45:19.320 their entire

00:45:19.760 existence is

00:45:20.380 fighting off

00:45:20.780 demons actually

00:45:21.500 i mean if they

00:45:22.400 use this to

00:45:23.100 train ai and

00:45:24.180 then the ai

00:45:24.840 instructs us how

00:45:26.180 to run the world

00:45:26.840 i would have more

00:45:27.760 faith in it than

00:45:28.400 our politicians

00:45:29.020 currently

00:45:29.520 yeah i mean doom

00:45:31.180 is a serious

00:45:32.220 situation isn't

00:45:33.200 it i mean you

00:45:33.860 can't you can't

00:45:34.320 just stand there and

00:45:35.000 freeze in doom

00:45:36.040 like that like a

00:45:36.920 nail bomber left

00:45:38.080 wing but you

00:45:38.700 get shot

00:45:39.220 that's just that's

00:45:40.720 very true but

00:45:41.900 they put these um

00:45:43.400 living brain cells on

00:45:44.500 top of micro

00:45:45.160 electrode arrays that

00:45:46.460 can both send and

00:45:47.260 receive electrical

00:45:47.960 signals and

00:45:49.180 researchers had to

00:45:50.160 carefully train the

00:45:51.340 chip to control the

00:45:52.200 paddles on either

00:45:52.940 side of the screen

00:45:53.700 for the pong and

00:45:54.960 they're able to get

00:45:55.580 it to play basically

00:45:56.420 but it's it's no

00:45:57.520 more than simple

00:45:58.940 i don't understand

00:45:59.620 how did they get

00:46:00.680 these brain cells to

00:46:01.820 it seems to my

00:46:03.420 mind to be just a

00:46:04.420 case of conditioning

00:46:05.240 similar to training

00:46:06.100 an animal in that

00:46:07.380 you get stimuli and

00:46:08.400 a reward and

00:46:09.280 stimuli and a

00:46:09.840 punishment um i

00:46:11.360 don't know quite how

00:46:12.260 they they've done it

00:46:13.000 i don't know whether

00:46:13.480 they were like has

00:46:14.660 and pike's dog where

00:46:15.900 they're just shocking

00:46:16.560 it if yeah what

00:46:17.260 level of consciousness

00:46:18.200 do these brain cells

00:46:19.040 have uh none it

00:46:20.620 won't be conscious at

00:46:21.500 800 000 uh brain

00:46:23.460 cells why would they

00:46:24.880 want to play doom

00:46:25.580 um for the same

00:46:27.640 reason the mice want

00:46:28.340 to watch mad max i

00:46:29.840 guess the mad max i

00:46:30.860 can see that they

00:46:31.440 want to watch it

00:46:32.020 it's lots of colors

00:46:32.600 and stuff but i but

00:46:33.580 but why why would

00:46:35.340 they well the brain

00:46:36.720 cells don't have eyes

00:46:37.660 so it's not even

00:46:38.320 going to be able to

00:46:38.960 watch it so it's

00:46:39.620 purely reacting based

00:46:40.740 on um sensory input

00:46:43.080 from other ways and

00:46:44.380 so one would presume

00:46:45.120 that's all the brain

00:46:45.840 is anyway electric

00:46:46.640 electrical signals

00:46:47.720 right all the brain

00:46:48.580 is anyway though

00:46:49.240 it takes electrical

00:46:49.940 signals from your

00:46:50.540 senses so you can

00:46:51.200 just mimic those and

00:46:52.680 so now this like

00:46:53.640 proto brain like it

00:46:55.280 wasn't mimicking sight

00:46:56.380 so it's playing it

00:46:57.120 differently than an

00:46:57.920 actual person would um

00:46:59.920 but you're able now

00:47:01.480 to manipulate these

00:47:03.020 sorts of things using

00:47:04.320 python pat says the

00:47:06.180 brain cells are likely

00:47:07.060 obtained from aborted

00:47:08.020 fetuses that is also

00:47:10.000 probably the case so

00:47:11.540 we've got aborted

00:47:12.440 fetuses playing doom at

00:47:14.600 a better level than

00:47:15.560 random and you can we

00:47:18.740 live in a society where

00:47:19.680 that's happened where

00:47:20.500 that where we get

00:47:21.380 aborted where we get

00:47:22.160 aborted babies have been

00:47:24.280 sucked out of their

00:47:24.860 mother's womb and

00:47:25.400 crushed up and we take

00:47:27.300 their brains and we get

00:47:28.300 them to play doom and

00:47:29.800 also you can control it

00:47:31.060 with an interface

00:47:31.840 through python which

00:47:33.260 of course if you don't

00:47:34.240 know is a pretty common

00:47:35.360 programming language and

00:47:36.860 actually an independent

00:47:37.720 developer called sean

00:47:38.820 cole used python to

00:47:40.520 teach the chips to play

00:47:42.060 doom within a week so

00:47:43.780 it just took them a week

00:47:44.680 and then they could play

00:47:45.580 doom um i i don't know

00:47:48.100 why you choose to do

00:47:49.580 that but okay um and

00:47:52.380 also they only needed a

00:47:53.660 quarter of the number of

00:47:54.880 brain cells to play doom

00:47:56.020 that they needed for the

00:47:57.400 pong demonstrations

00:47:58.360 they're getting better

00:47:59.260 at it fyi this is not

00:48:00.960 an image of doom either

00:48:02.080 yeah this doesn't look

00:48:03.340 like doom no i don't

00:48:05.100 know what mod or

00:48:06.000 whatever they have

00:48:06.860 there but then they

00:48:07.900 aren't creatures from

00:48:08.620 doom that's not the

00:48:09.220 same gun that's not the

00:48:10.020 same face so who knows

00:48:12.880 maybe it's a special

00:48:13.960 scientists fact-checked

00:48:15.260 that maybe it's a

00:48:15.920 special low iq version

00:48:17.240 for the the petri dish of

00:48:18.820 brain cells who knows

00:48:20.580 but um it still did

00:48:24.380 better than machine

00:48:25.360 learning software has

00:48:26.940 been able to do so ai

00:48:28.740 and the like still

00:48:29.580 can't compete with

00:48:30.440 brain cells on a

00:48:31.360 computer chip um although

00:48:33.460 there are lots of

00:48:34.460 questions with this like

00:48:35.900 how do the neurons know

00:48:37.140 what's expected of them

00:48:38.160 or how can they see the

00:48:39.600 screen with no eyes and

00:48:40.880 so there are many

00:48:41.520 questions here i have

00:48:42.860 many questions um why

00:48:44.640 why are we doing this

00:48:46.160 um i mean there are

00:48:48.420 actually uses of this

00:48:49.440 technology that are

00:48:50.240 pro-social modeling the

00:48:51.560 brain to understand

00:48:52.320 disease i'm not against

00:48:53.600 that but then seeking

00:48:55.420 to create virtual

00:48:56.580 consciousness consciousnesses

00:48:58.580 um brings up not only

00:49:00.620 moral questions and

00:49:02.240 ethical questions but

00:49:03.180 also what happens to us

00:49:05.760 biological people what if

00:49:07.300 the virtual brains being

00:49:09.320 in a supercomputer all of

00:49:11.140 a sudden just have this

00:49:12.080 inherent advantage against

00:49:13.200 the biological brains and

00:49:14.580 they choose to go against

00:49:15.580 us just potentially creating

00:49:17.780 new adversaries in the

00:49:18.960 same way that people talk

00:49:19.920 about ai maybe they're

00:49:21.940 going to act in an

00:49:22.780 unpredictable way maybe

00:49:23.780 they'll be spiteful for

00:49:24.780 that they will and then

00:49:25.500 you'll and then you'll get

00:49:26.240 biological people that

00:49:27.560 will identify with the

00:49:29.360 robot people and and in

00:49:32.280 order to gain power over

00:49:33.660 other biological people

00:49:35.100 almost that that that

00:49:36.960 definitely will happen so

00:49:38.020 you'll basically have a

00:49:38.680 like you know like general

00:49:39.920 jumbo uh in the beano and

00:49:42.480 he has his own you do it's

00:49:44.020 been a long time he has

00:49:45.660 his own little army of

00:49:46.800 people uh that he controls

00:49:49.420 and it would be like that

00:49:50.920 except it would be some

00:49:51.800 woke ghastly person like

00:49:53.420 zach polanski or whatever

00:49:54.400 his name but yes that that

00:49:56.880 is all i've just thought i

00:49:58.040 would introduce you to

00:49:59.160 man-made horrors man-made

00:50:01.600 horrors beyond your

00:50:02.420 comprehension um you're

00:50:04.100 welcome thanks josh that's

00:50:05.960 just awful um yeah do

00:50:08.840 robo flies dream of

00:50:09.860 electric poop that's a

00:50:10.900 great question i hope not

00:50:12.620 yeah okay um ochido says

00:50:16.760 uh this is going to become

00:50:18.100 we could but never asked

00:50:19.660 if we should i mean that

00:50:21.160 is a phrase that needs to

00:50:22.300 be epitomized in our time

00:50:24.000 isn't it uh caleb knight

00:50:26.140 says i point the good sirs

00:50:27.720 to brain organoids for

00:50:29.580 more man-made horrors uh

00:50:31.720 these tiny lab-grown brains

00:50:32.980 that already are being

00:50:34.200 slapped into cpus yeah

00:50:35.800 that's weird like if you

00:50:37.160 just have a human brain in

00:50:38.340 your your desktop computer

00:50:39.680 don't do that um

00:50:41.720 own apple tea party uh do

00:50:44.680 you want scaven because

00:50:45.760 this is how you get scaven

00:50:47.180 that is very true

00:50:48.400 don't worry it's a war

00:50:51.020 hammer thing and uh

00:50:53.380 another person talking

00:50:54.260 about that uh boss

00:50:55.360 neeson so japan is making

00:50:56.940 a scaven lord terminator

00:50:58.260 hybrid uh looks like

00:51:00.780 after venezuela ran in

00:51:02.000 cuba japan is going to

00:51:03.100 have to be added to the

00:51:04.600 list i don't think the

00:51:06.160 entirety of the japanese

00:51:07.160 people right ryan points

00:51:08.440 out these are basically

00:51:09.080 like servitors and

00:51:10.540 that's yeah that's oh

00:51:11.920 that's the best

00:51:12.680 approximation actually a

00:51:14.260 kind of uh human cyborg

00:51:16.240 slave anyway let's let's

00:51:18.740 move on from that because

00:51:19.780 that was just depressing uh

00:51:22.260 but you know what's not

00:51:23.120 depressing is how the

00:51:24.860 british government has

00:51:25.520 decided you're going to be

00:51:27.300 socially cohesive with all

00:51:28.960 of the foreigners that

00:51:29.720 they've brought here whether

00:51:30.840 you like it or not they're

00:51:32.700 going to do it by force and

00:51:35.460 this is the government's uh

00:51:37.540 cohesion strategy that they

00:51:39.900 have recently published uh it

00:51:41.540 was leaked and it seems to

00:51:43.760 have been slightly edited in

00:51:45.280 some way because uh the the

00:51:47.480 news headlines that went

00:51:48.260 around from this were oh the

00:51:49.700 british flag is a tool of

00:51:52.020 hate and i couldn't find that

00:51:53.940 in here so they seems to have

00:51:55.560 taken that out so when i was

00:51:57.400 watching the olympics all those

00:51:59.280 hateful people walking out with

00:52:00.940 our flag are just really

00:52:02.860 hateful and yeah it doesn't

00:52:05.640 make this this was how it was

00:52:06.840 um leaked but i couldn't find

00:52:09.920 the term tool of hate in this

00:52:12.320 so uh we won't uh we won't

00:52:14.220 accuse them of that i can

00:52:16.060 certainly believe that they

00:52:17.200 believe it is though i know

00:52:19.060 that they believe that uh

00:52:20.780 anyway so we'll just read the

00:52:22.080 forward from the prime

00:52:22.760 minister because uh keir

00:52:23.820 starman most legitimate prime

00:52:25.040 minister we've ever had uh

00:52:26.620 most well liked and uh the

00:52:28.660 person most trusted to enforce

00:52:30.780 this upon us says by any fair

00:52:33.240 standard britain can be proud of

00:52:34.560 its approach to social cohesion

00:52:35.840 simple things we take for granted

00:52:37.680 like interfaith marriages or

00:52:39.080 religious freedom or in fact a

00:52:40.180 departure from the historical

00:52:41.240 or international norm indeed

00:52:42.980 the ease with which people of

00:52:44.520 different cultures and races

00:52:45.520 live side by side in our

00:52:47.020 diverse democracy is both

00:52:48.820 envied and feared around the

00:52:50.760 globe is he just gaslighting

00:52:52.760 us at this point like fear the

00:52:54.700 ease in which people of

00:52:55.880 different cultures and races

00:52:57.220 live side by side does he live

00:52:58.780 in the same country as that's

00:52:59.940 going just great wasn't he

00:53:02.460 prime minister when all the

00:53:03.460 southport riots were going on

00:53:04.720 when gangs of muslim were

00:53:05.860 hunting white people down um it's

00:53:08.600 the full force of the law josh

00:53:10.200 full force of the law

00:53:12.700 we'll be prosecuted and you will

00:53:14.540 be found guilty you will be

00:53:15.760 jailed exactly i guarantee you

00:53:18.340 will regret this says the most

00:53:20.620 loved prime minister i've had i'm

00:53:22.380 sure our agreement gangs the envy

00:53:23.780 of the world keir well yeah that's

00:53:25.460 the point isn't it it's like this

00:53:26.740 is a demented statement that

00:53:28.980 doesn't speak to any of the

00:53:30.000 horrors that multiculturalism has

00:53:31.500 brought upon us but he carries on

00:53:32.960 feared because it provides a

00:53:34.340 banal yet profound challenge to the

00:53:36.980 increasingly noisy politics that

00:53:38.860 says it simply cannot be done

00:53:40.080 people who are different cannot

00:53:41.820 come together united under one

00:53:43.240 flag which is why we have the

00:53:44.760 massive protests flying all the

00:53:46.860 foreign flags like what are we

00:53:48.800 doing here this is insane in our

00:53:51.780 communities we show daily that it

00:53:53.100 can i mean we've talked about the

00:53:54.880 kind of informal segregation that

00:53:56.900 we have in this country by the

00:53:58.380 fact that and you'll know this if

00:53:59.880 you look at the um uh census map i

00:54:02.420 should have got it for this

00:54:03.140 actually uh and you just click

00:54:04.640 through the different ethnicities

00:54:05.780 you'll see it's different areas

00:54:07.180 of the country that have different

00:54:08.200 ethnicities in it yeah and those

00:54:10.100 areas work that's the interesting

00:54:11.380 thing when i was in luton recently

00:54:13.200 you notice that the town center

00:54:15.740 which is mixed is dysfunctional and

00:54:20.680 you have eastern europeans sitting on

00:54:22.720 benches drunk and you have mad

00:54:25.600 african schizophrenics milling about

00:54:28.500 talking themselves and whatever it's

00:54:30.700 dysfunctional you move out into

00:54:32.940 berry park which is a substantially

00:54:35.380 pakistani area to the extent that

00:54:37.980 when i was there that everybody was

00:54:39.840 pakistan that's functional and it's

00:54:42.300 also actually internally quite high

00:54:43.860 trust and people get along and

00:54:46.740 because you're the only white person

00:54:47.980 then you've got a camera uh of course

00:54:49.740 they want to come and talk to you and

00:54:51.300 they're very friendly i wouldn't

00:54:53.060 necessarily want to live there but

00:54:54.500 they're but they're perfectly

00:54:55.260 friendly it's functional it works

00:54:57.240 they understand this is a pakistani

00:54:58.980 it's their area and it's and it's

00:55:02.020 well and there's rules and you

00:55:03.020 abide by them and it's that it's

00:55:04.380 that period of time between the uh

00:55:07.080 first immigrant moving in and the

00:55:08.240 last white person moving out as it

00:55:09.920 were that is that is tense and it is

00:55:12.120 not functional yes um but once they've

00:55:14.440 once they've created a monocultural

00:55:16.200 society which they have done in

00:55:17.860 berry park and they have done in

00:55:19.100 birthing and sparbrook and they have

00:55:20.440 done then it works quite well yes

00:55:22.440 uh anyway kirstama carries on this

00:55:24.960 call to action recommits britain to

00:55:27.580 that quiet act of defiance against the

00:55:30.220 forces of division i think that's you

00:55:32.200 guys forces of division skeletal makes

00:55:35.520 this pretty cool though doesn't it and

00:55:37.860 renews our approach to social cohesion

00:55:39.720 well if social cohesion is going so

00:55:41.640 well why do we need to do any of this

00:55:44.180 right if if it's all been such a

00:55:46.260 wonderful example of how things are

00:55:48.180 going brilliantly what is the need for

00:55:50.200 this action plan at all this is like

00:55:52.420 someone just at the end of the soviet

00:55:54.700 union putting out a message saying

00:55:56.380 communism has never been stronger than

00:55:58.260 ever exactly like that yeah exactly

00:56:00.180 what it is and that's why they're

00:56:01.400 doing it because they've clearly as

00:56:02.980 you said the force that they fear and

00:56:04.440 they know that it's falling apart

00:56:06.460 uh we as ever we draw deeply on our

00:56:10.240 shared values i guess the shared values

00:56:12.220 of the polytheistic hindus the

00:56:14.560 monotheistic muslims and the monotheistic

00:56:17.220 jewish community all just living

00:56:18.840 harmoniously with each other don't

00:56:21.260 they just i mean there was a thing what

00:56:23.440 was the thing in birmingham the other

00:56:24.540 day where there's a terror attack at the

00:56:25.780 synagogue um a couple of months back

00:56:28.720 oh that was in manchester yeah yeah and

00:56:31.780 they were literally if you looked at

00:56:32.760 it was a jewish neighborhood in a

00:56:33.820 muslim neighborhood right right next to

00:56:35.100 each other yeah they'd come across and

00:56:36.440 commit a terror attack it's like sorry

00:56:38.200 these are segregated communities that

00:56:40.000 don't share values actually but anyway

00:56:42.660 but not not only in our core liberal

00:56:45.140 principles which i mean we think that

00:56:48.520 these communities operate by liberal

00:56:49.860 principles such as tolerance protection

00:56:52.440 of minorities and the rule of law and

00:56:54.040 the first liberal law a liberal principle

00:56:56.240 i mean it is a liberal principle but

00:56:58.340 it's not a principle that is held by

00:57:00.520 many people in these communities it's

00:57:03.240 not an exclusively liberal principle

00:57:04.760 either that's true um the rule of law

00:57:06.680 applies in anywhere that has a

00:57:08.660 government

00:57:08.980 nor just the natural pluralism that is

00:57:11.860 always characterized an island country

00:57:13.520 containing our four distinct and proud

00:57:15.340 nations and again you'll notice they

00:57:17.040 were distinct and separate you have the

00:57:20.180 english the welsh the scottish and the

00:57:22.160 northern irish it's not that we were

00:57:24.200 making you know the it immediately

00:57:27.340 undermines what he's saying because

00:57:29.000 exactly um of course the the borders

00:57:31.940 between the four different areas of the

00:57:34.440 united kingdom are borders because of

00:57:36.760 ethnic differences the english the

00:57:39.700 welsh the scots the northern irish and

00:57:41.440 then their borders because of endogamy and

00:57:43.180 thus cultural differences there's

00:57:44.880 substantial cultural differences and

00:57:46.920 that's why they don't live together

00:57:48.060 that's why that's the and they also

00:57:51.700 have a thousand years of fighting each

00:57:53.340 other under their belts uh the many

00:57:56.180 wars between the english the scots

00:57:57.600 and the welsh and whoever else in the

00:57:59.560 irish it's it's not like this has been

00:58:01.680 one of profound peace and i mean they're

00:58:04.860 still separate to this day after this

00:58:06.400 thousand years so this idea that we can

00:58:08.840 invite people in 10 minutes ago and then

00:58:11.940 they're just going to integrate when

00:58:13.800 thousands of years that there's some

00:58:15.760 degree of cross-cultural pollination

00:58:17.700 between say england and wales but

00:58:20.760 they're still distinct and people still

00:58:22.220 view each other as distinct there's a

00:58:24.020 kind of cultural settlement there but

00:58:25.220 notice what he's offering us here so

00:58:27.500 that is the model but just bringing in

00:58:30.280 muslims africans east asians indians

00:58:33.440 whoever and having them having their own

00:58:35.420 little separate national areas in britain as

00:58:37.480 well so he also he also overplays the

00:58:39.700 degrees to which these are distinct and

00:58:41.920 proud nations as if they're all united

00:58:43.600 no there are all kinds of fissions

00:58:45.440 within those nations north v south in

00:58:49.280 england for example and there's genetic

00:58:50.720 differences between them east v west in

00:58:53.100 england that's the essence of the civil

00:58:54.360 war that genetic difference are you are

00:58:55.980 you are you a celto-saxon client or

00:58:58.680 simply a saxon and that was that was

00:59:00.840 expressed in the civil war um the

00:59:03.120 difference between the cornish and the

00:59:04.580 english difference between the normans and

00:59:06.320 the saxons right so it's still there

00:59:08.720 yeah it's absurd to describe scotland as

00:59:11.700 united because whether you support

00:59:13.580 rangers or or celtic or you're a

00:59:16.340 catholic or a protestant i remember

00:59:18.260 saying to my scottish grandfather that

00:59:20.040 i was rooting for celtic he's like no no

00:59:21.600 no no no you're you're huge riots in

00:59:24.720 cornwall in 1549 because they tried to

00:59:27.420 impose an english language prayer book

00:59:29.700 and they demanded to be in cornish and

00:59:31.800 it was a symbol of the english oppression

00:59:33.600 of the cornish cornish are actually the

00:59:35.480 the strongest regional nationalists in

00:59:38.060 the entirety of the united kingdom to

00:59:40.140 this day um i think that they still have

00:59:43.000 a very very strong regional identity and

00:59:44.980 you can see this because when you go to

00:59:46.300 cornwall all you see is cornish flags

00:59:48.480 flying everywhere and in fact you can

00:59:50.120 see cornish people even in wiltshire

00:59:51.720 flying a cornish flag and even within

00:59:53.040 scotland if you go to the shetland

00:59:54.460 islands you won't see any scottish flags

00:59:56.220 you'll only see shetland flags yeah they

00:59:59.200 vote lib dem as a protest against the snp

01:00:01.920 yeah so we're not scottish is the

01:00:03.760 argument they make but anyway let's

01:00:05.660 carry on so as this action plan sets out

01:00:08.620 we cannot be blind to the dangers or

01:00:10.560 the stakes because the truth is while

01:00:12.880 our values remain strong in recent years

01:00:14.780 their practice has often been poor too

01:00:16.720 often we have taken our eye off the ball

01:00:18.100 when it comes to being clear about the

01:00:19.680 responsibilities of cohesion as well as

01:00:21.540 the rights we should rightly be proud of

01:00:23.700 having some of the toughest anti-hate and

01:00:25.460 anti-discrimination laws anywhere in the

01:00:26.880 world but this should be underpinned by

01:00:28.520 collective responsibility to pursue

01:00:30.020 integration well i mean i personally

01:00:32.300 think that ship has sailed when you have

01:00:34.800 almost autonomous foreign communities i

01:00:38.400 think integration is a bit of a question

01:00:40.920 and you know the slightly up here he says

01:00:43.020 as well this should be grounded in the

01:00:44.720 fairness of a two-way street as in all

01:00:47.240 right so i have to integrate into their

01:00:49.920 communities sorry why when did i choose

01:00:53.120 this why have i had this inflicted upon me

01:00:55.280 i can use a bit of an analogy here because

01:00:58.200 your country is effectively your home but

01:01:00.280 imagine living in your home and then

01:01:02.960 someone moves into it without your

01:01:05.140 invitation and then you have to make

01:01:07.580 compromises the government's like well now

01:01:09.780 you have to change well if if it happened

01:01:12.640 at that level you know everyone from

01:01:15.340 every side of the political spectrum would

01:01:17.080 be outraged when i was a second year at

01:01:19.940 university you had to live out of college

01:01:21.520 and so i lived with these friends of mine

01:01:23.980 that were fundamentalist christians and i

01:01:26.700 kind of agreed yeah okay if we move into

01:01:28.700 you know i won't smoke and i won't whatever

01:01:31.360 but of course once i'm moving in and i'm

01:01:33.400 paying the same rent they are i can't i

01:01:35.460 couldn't help but start to assert myself

01:01:36.920 and smoke my pipe in my room and things

01:01:39.040 like this and my housemate susanna said

01:01:40.900 when you moved in you promised you wouldn't

01:01:42.260 smoke i know but i am paying as much rent

01:01:44.340 as you and i feel that i have a right to

01:01:47.500 assert what i want i don't like this

01:01:49.540 cleaning schedule you've drawn up in the

01:01:50.880 fridge where we will have to clean once a

01:01:52.620 week why can't we just clean like if it's

01:01:53.920 dirty uh and so gradually all kind of

01:01:56.160 the whole the whole settlement under which

01:01:57.900 i moved in broke down as they they had to

01:02:01.180 bend to my will as much as i did to

01:02:04.240 theirs you know so she complained about

01:02:06.220 me making noise in the room by playing

01:02:07.780 music but i'd be working up at six in the

01:02:09.240 morning on sunday by her playing the

01:02:10.500 guitar and singing a hymn um you know

01:02:12.600 there had to be a two-way street but

01:02:15.440 that's the thing i was invited to come

01:02:17.640 and live there and then by everybody else

01:02:20.540 in the flap whereas uh these people were

01:02:22.740 invited by the government the labor

01:02:25.940 government the labor government

01:02:27.120 in particular specifically to rub it in

01:02:30.080 our faces actually as they said anyway

01:02:32.700 we'll go through the executive summary

01:02:34.160 because of course the united i love this

01:02:36.880 well the united kingdom has endured rapid

01:02:39.600 technological demographic and economic

01:02:42.020 change so you don't endure something that

01:02:44.400 has been a boon to you you don't endure

01:02:47.080 something that's been good for you you

01:02:49.180 know that's true sentence in this

01:02:50.620 entire well exactly i didn't endure

01:02:52.800 eating a steak for my dinner last night

01:02:54.900 is it possible that the person of us

01:02:56.060 didn't know what endure meant it is

01:02:57.840 totally possible but the thing is

01:03:01.120 they're just giving the game away here

01:03:02.220 right so you've had this inflicted upon

01:03:03.620 you alongside a rising tide of

01:03:05.560 extremism and malign foreign influence

01:03:07.060 or i wonder where that's coming from

01:03:08.740 you know if we have to endure this why

01:03:11.060 why do we have to go through this and

01:03:12.900 this is of course putting social

01:03:13.960 cohesion in the uk under strain so it's

01:03:16.140 not a brilliant example actually there are

01:03:18.060 lots of problems and this is the government

01:03:19.480 admitting there are lots of problems

01:03:20.620 so anyway confident communities is the

01:03:24.000 first thing you want they want to

01:03:25.400 restore pride in place investment in

01:03:28.260 local communities well that sounds fine

01:03:29.820 bringing people together we will invest

01:03:33.280 in initiatives that create opportunities

01:03:34.640 for connections across backgrounds

01:03:36.180 including cultural and sporting events

01:03:38.180 youth and community infrastructure blah blah

01:03:39.500 blah well why do you need to do that if

01:03:41.760 we're such a great example of

01:03:43.260 multiculturalism as in these communities

01:03:45.820 don't actually know anything about

01:03:47.320 one another they don't really like each

01:03:48.700 other and the government's like right

01:03:50.080 now we're gonna have to incede now

01:03:51.240 you're going to have to do this whether

01:03:53.360 you like it or not otherwise this whole

01:03:55.240 experiment fails so this is actually a

01:03:59.520 veiled way of saying you know oh there's

01:04:01.580 that that misguided black youth in

01:04:03.160 london who stabbed someone if he had a

01:04:05.100 youth center this never would have

01:04:08.000 happened if he was able to play ping

01:04:09.700 pong he never would have machete the

01:04:11.120 person to death well if only he'd been

01:04:12.780 taught our values and history as the next

01:04:14.460 one says right we will mandate

01:04:16.560 citizenship classes in schools and

01:04:18.240 teach digital literacy we'll improve

01:04:20.200 the nation's curriculum teaching our

01:04:21.880 nation's history and ensure holocaust

01:04:23.240 awareness stays a compulsory topic in

01:04:24.820 schools i mean where would we be

01:04:26.520 without holocaust our holocaust

01:04:28.400 doesn't do with our history well i mean

01:04:29.960 we ended it oh yeah that sounds yeah

01:04:32.480 as in we we fought against nazi

01:04:34.520 germany which is why we need a

01:04:36.040 holocaust memorial in london it's weird

01:04:38.920 that out of everything that's the thing

01:04:40.960 that's mentioned yeah i wouldn't i

01:04:43.140 wonder who it is that uh needs needs

01:04:45.580 mention of that just just weird that

01:04:47.460 that's the thing on kiss armor's mind

01:04:48.840 but the the point being okay so again

01:04:51.460 this is a kind of admission that yeah

01:04:52.980 we've brought in a bunch of people who

01:04:53.880 don't really feel any connection to the

01:04:55.020 land what did you think he was going to

01:04:56.820 say you know red boy awareness

01:04:58.340 very aware of that on his mind i

01:05:03.000 assume that'll just be a core part of

01:05:04.360 teaching the nation's history um but

01:05:06.580 the interesting how like this is again

01:05:09.080 a kind of veiled admission yeah the

01:05:10.820 people who come here don't have any

01:05:11.980 real connection here and they don't

01:05:13.380 really understand why they're here and

01:05:14.660 so we're gonna have to kind of

01:05:15.560 brainwash them into understanding oh

01:05:17.040 no you're you're british now you are

01:05:19.600 the ancestors of like alfred the great

01:05:21.920 or something anyway the next one is

01:05:24.300 uh celebrating faith and belief

01:05:25.640 communities working closely with faith

01:05:27.620 and belief communities expanded faith

01:05:29.460 week and boost belief literacy and

01:05:32.640 things like this and it's like okay

01:05:34.040 okay but the problem that you have is

01:05:37.420 a lot of these religions are defined

01:05:39.380 in opposition to one another like

01:05:41.580 christianity and judaism are actually

01:05:44.200 antagonistic islam and christianity and

01:05:47.460 judaism are actually antagonistic

01:05:49.760 sikhism is literally determined by its

01:05:53.240 opposition to islam is literally

01:05:55.760 determined to its opposition to

01:05:57.260 polytheism such as hinduism like these

01:06:00.380 are not just you know it's kumbaya we

01:06:02.440 can all just get along well no and we

01:06:04.640 have lots of terror attacks that show

01:06:06.000 us we can't also i imagine that

01:06:08.640 belief communities doesn't mean the

01:06:10.640 so-called far right does it it's not

01:06:12.720 no i mean weirdly they're not going to

01:06:14.320 seek to understand us christianity

01:06:16.040 doesn't actually get much of a mention

01:06:17.140 in this anyway going on to cohesive

01:06:18.820 communities integration based on

01:06:20.540 values we know that migration needs to

01:06:22.600 be managed to support communities and

01:06:23.820 cohesion why why this belief

01:06:25.940 communities what why do people have

01:06:27.680 an inherent right to have stupid

01:06:29.400 beliefs irrational beliefs i'd love

01:06:33.060 tolerance oh that all right so it's

01:06:34.940 downstream of tolerance yes but but

01:06:36.900 they won't tolerate certain beliefs

01:06:38.180 there's certain beliefs you get a

01:06:39.160 visit from prevent only if you're

01:06:41.080 white enough yeah if you're white

01:06:42.480 enough so so it's it's it's certain

01:06:44.900 beliefs yes as long as they're a bit

01:06:46.740 wishy-washy yes the tolerance is like a

01:06:48.980 principle in which the weak follow like

01:06:51.680 you don't need tolerance if you're

01:06:53.280 strong do you this is an inherently weak

01:06:56.600 virtue tolerance is for the people who

01:06:59.040 are being imposed upon not to react to

01:07:01.440 what they're being forced to do that's

01:07:03.720 what tolerance is for anyway they're

01:07:05.760 going to restore the order of the

01:07:07.740 asylum system and force people to

01:07:11.700 integrate based on a points value base

01:07:15.400 or something like that where they're

01:07:17.080 going to include they're going to set

01:07:18.680 clear expectations for integration

01:07:20.280 english language english language

01:07:22.280 proficiency proficiency and

01:07:23.960 participation in work and the effort

01:07:28.240 will focus on removing barriers to

01:07:29.760 participation supporting

01:07:31.240 underrepresented groups and

01:07:32.380 fostering a shared sense of values

01:07:34.080 across the uk as if there's just some

01:07:37.120 sort of worldwide shared sense of

01:07:38.620 values so you brought in a bunch of

01:07:39.940 africans you brought in a bunch of

01:07:41.220 afghans you've got some east asians

01:07:43.420 you've got people from south america

01:07:44.940 and you've got people from europe and

01:07:46.620 we've got to somehow divine what a

01:07:48.320 shared value these people all have is

01:07:51.540 what is it even the notion of values is

01:07:54.300 basically western it's the idea that

01:07:56.320 you can have different values from me

01:07:59.080 and they're equally valid somehow and i

01:08:03.040 must accept that you value this more

01:08:04.820 than i do or whatever whereas in normal

01:08:06.340 communities no we all value all these

01:08:08.200 things the same these things are

01:08:09.740 sacred these things are taboo and don't

01:08:12.140 question it yes also hate the notion of

01:08:14.540 the the existence of these values as you

01:08:17.080 characterize them because it implies

01:08:19.760 that the truth doesn't matter that one

01:08:22.420 thing is equal to another therefore

01:08:24.860 they're as equally true to one another

01:08:26.840 which is simply it's cultural relativism

01:08:29.580 it implies oh i have a different view

01:08:31.560 from you well one of them is closer to

01:08:33.440 the truth potentially or close to the

01:08:35.200 truth based on a shared starting point

01:08:37.440 but some things aren't actually true or

01:08:39.960 false claims what they are is preference

01:08:42.000 claims so for example 99 of afghans say

01:08:44.740 they want sharia law and we are an

01:08:47.600 english common law country these things

01:08:49.740 are not compatible they're a direct

01:08:51.480 contradiction common law is a discovered

01:08:53.260 law that is revealed by the common

01:08:54.820 practice of the people sharia law is

01:08:56.980 divinely ordained and dictated by a

01:08:59.340 prophet well which one wins out and of

01:09:02.480 course i know i think should win out but

01:09:04.700 i'm not making necessarily a truth claim

01:09:06.240 here i'm making a preference claim i am

01:09:08.220 an englishman i would like to live in

01:09:09.400 england that has the english common law

01:09:11.100 but the afghans have got as much right

01:09:13.100 to be heard and integrated as i do so

01:09:16.400 which one comes top is it's a two-way

01:09:20.580 street it's a two-way street

01:09:21.860 so sorry no no i was just going to say

01:09:25.220 that even with the best intentions and

01:09:27.760 best will in the world if they tried to do

01:09:29.360 this what would inevitably end up

01:09:30.980 happening is that it would be the native

01:09:33.500 population who would be expected to make

01:09:36.720 the most concessions because they're the

01:09:38.460 most willing and able because you can't

01:09:41.380 expect someone from you know rural sub-saharan

01:09:46.520 in africa to all of a sudden magically be

01:09:49.080 able to adopt all of the behaviors of an

01:09:51.460 englishman at the drop of a hat is

01:09:53.520 simply not possible and so what

01:09:55.860 inevitably has to be done is that we make

01:09:58.060 more concessions to people who are

01:10:00.160 unwilling and unable to do the same

01:10:02.800 it's possible if they've no choice again

01:10:05.200 i was talking to some someone about this

01:10:06.820 a black fellow uh in uh in luson and a

01:10:10.380 pakistani fellow in slough actually and

01:10:11.980 they were saying but they both said

01:10:13.120 exactly the same thing which is that when

01:10:14.200 we came here's hardly anybody that wasn't

01:10:15.460 english so therefore you've no choice

01:10:18.340 yes um you must adopt everything that

01:10:20.900 they do you've no choice yes and that's

01:10:23.580 the only way it can possibly work in any

01:10:26.000 kind of you know moderate capacity but

01:10:28.380 this this is the government who but

01:10:30.300 notice that we will set clear

01:10:31.600 expectations for integration okay what

01:10:33.280 happens if they're not met what do you

01:10:35.220 do if one of these communities says yeah

01:10:37.020 we don't fancy that what you do what

01:10:39.060 your options here and the old the answer

01:10:41.720 is this is basically an ultimatum that

01:10:43.680 demands government suppression now so

01:10:46.460 okay it's government suppression so

01:10:48.600 the state is annexing annexing to

01:10:50.260 itself more authority to control the

01:10:53.420 society in fact if you go down to the

01:10:55.380 next one tackling hate and

01:10:56.860 discrimination well i wonder which

01:10:58.200 community this will be leveled against

01:11:00.160 we will ensure hate crimes or

01:11:01.960 prosecuted with the full force of the

01:11:03.580 law oh brilliant brilliant is there a

01:11:06.260 single person in jail prosecuted for a

01:11:07.920 hate crime that isn't white

01:11:09.060 be very surprised yeah i think whites

01:11:13.420 is still the main victim group of hate

01:11:17.620 crimes as well they don't talk about

01:11:18.960 that aspect as in that's the actual

01:11:20.740 government data on it and so they're

01:11:23.500 not gonna ever reveal that fact even

01:11:26.200 though it's disproportionate as well

01:11:27.540 exactly we we will provide further

01:11:29.260 protective security funding for faith

01:11:31.000 community also just sorry um sorry

01:11:33.640 there's the tolerance notion so we have

01:11:36.440 to be tolerant of people and one of the

01:11:38.540 things you have to be tolerant about in

01:11:40.000 people is emotions and there's a degree

01:11:42.240 to which we try to control our

01:11:43.700 emotions there's a degree to which we

01:11:44.920 try to you know keep it in the pants as

01:11:46.320 it were but there's a degree to which

01:11:48.180 you can't um if you really really feel

01:11:51.360 something and hate is an emotion just as

01:11:55.680 love is an emotion is a feeling and you

01:11:59.060 can't really help it if you hate

01:12:00.580 something i mean they could literally

01:12:02.440 drug you right they could literally give

01:12:04.640 you you know anti-depression medication

01:12:06.880 that just essentially normalizes all of

01:12:09.280 your emotions into a a single bland

01:12:11.600 state of existence i mean that's i think

01:12:14.860 where it has to go in the end right

01:12:16.320 right so the whole every white person

01:12:18.800 needs to be essentially

01:12:19.600 unless they live away i mean if you look

01:12:21.780 at the rates of drug taking yeah it's just

01:12:24.260 a neurochemical lobotomy really isn't it

01:12:26.240 yes but anyway look look at the framing

01:12:29.060 on this will provide protective security for

01:12:31.760 faith communities which they have already

01:12:34.440 done and it was massively disproportionately

01:12:36.440 weighted towards islam we will adopt a

01:12:39.160 non-statutory definition of anti-muslim

01:12:41.360 hostility and we'll appoint a special

01:12:43.640 representative on tackling anti-muslim

01:12:46.240 hostility well hang on a second i thought

01:12:48.560 this was about faith communities plural

01:12:51.120 you've just announced to us that you're

01:12:54.220 going to create a kind of islamic

01:12:56.160 inquisitor who will be tasked with

01:12:59.200 searching the society out for anti-muslim

01:13:03.480 hostility and suppressing it

01:13:05.240 yeah so essentially islam is the

01:13:10.220 religion well that's exactly and you

01:13:12.300 must not be a heretic how is that

01:13:14.040 different to what they do in saudi

01:13:15.380 arabia

01:13:15.880 how is that any different to what they

01:13:18.160 do in any

01:13:18.900 literal islamic state that's what isis

01:13:22.040 do that's what the taliban do

01:13:23.800 it's also worth mentioning as well that

01:13:26.220 why is it muslims in particular that are

01:13:28.580 being targeted because that there aren't

01:13:30.240 people in england saying you know what

01:13:31.700 i'm sick of all these scots coming down

01:13:33.360 from south of the border i've never

01:13:34.560 heard that in my entire life and i think

01:13:37.440 other than carl i've never heard that

01:13:40.700 um and obviously it's because the the

01:13:44.120 anger and hostility is the result of

01:13:46.580 poor behavior

01:13:47.400 their poor behavior the turning point i

01:13:49.400 mean you probably won't remember this

01:13:50.600 but you will

01:13:51.140 was that the satanic verses nobody in my

01:13:55.040 memory as a child nobody was going on

01:13:57.160 about islam all the time until the satanic

01:13:59.640 verses and you have them in the street

01:14:01.620 with the book burning it and whatever

01:14:03.700 and that was a turning point

01:14:05.320 people well nobody really knew about

01:14:07.160 islam no till that point because why

01:14:09.100 would you and then you see that and

01:14:10.900 there's surprisingly big protests as well

01:14:12.660 if you go back and watch the videos

01:14:13.700 there's thousands of me like didn't

01:14:16.020 realize these people were here back in

01:14:17.780 1989 or whatever i've been being in a

01:14:19.620 pub with the royal oak with my parents

01:14:21.320 my friend saad and we were seven and

01:14:23.640 in those days the pub just did sandwiches

01:14:25.200 yeah it was pork and beef um i wanted a

01:14:28.260 beef one there was pork wasn't the pan

01:14:30.060 one for him and he just knew he

01:14:30.940 shouldn't eat it

01:14:31.520 and we knew so little about this my

01:14:33.980 parents we said a little bit why yeah

01:14:35.780 why why can't you eat it what's the

01:14:37.000 matter with you yeah i'm muslim and

01:14:38.600 that was how little we knew yeah yeah

01:14:40.380 and within two years we all knew about

01:14:42.040 it

01:14:42.300 because but anyway we've we've dealt with

01:14:44.840 the muslims uh we also will need ready

01:14:47.460 action to take to combat anti-semitism

01:14:49.920 of course we will so we've got islam and

01:14:53.000 judaism but the rest of you are just on

01:14:55.300 your own i guess what we need microcosms

01:14:58.260 of middle eastern conflicts in our

01:14:59.780 country yeah i know as if we haven't got

01:15:01.380 enough of those anyway let's move on to

01:15:03.160 resilient communities we're going to

01:15:04.940 protect institutions from extremist

01:15:07.460 abuse we will embed the 2024 extremism

01:15:10.640 definition across government working

01:15:12.420 closely with frontline partners such as

01:15:14.020 the police you want to see the 2024

01:15:16.680 extremism definition i think i know it

01:15:19.400 but go ahead you know it no it's great

01:15:22.120 anything that's not left-wing eyes

01:15:23.380 it's exactly it's not libtardism the

01:15:26.520 definition extremism is the promotion

01:15:28.820 or advancement of an ideology based on

01:15:30.580 violence hatred or intolerance which i

01:15:33.740 think is the key point because really i

01:15:36.400 mean you know if you go around being

01:15:37.700 violent or hateful people aren't really

01:15:39.960 very tolerant of that generally right but

01:15:42.000 say you know guys i'm not sure we

01:15:43.740 should tolerate all of these terror

01:15:45.160 attacks or whatever grooming gangs then

01:15:47.540 we have a bit of an issue uh the aims to

01:15:50.620 one negate or destroy the fundamental

01:15:52.240 rights and freedoms of others or to

01:15:54.540 undermine or overturn or replace the uk

01:15:56.320 system of liberal parliamentary

01:15:57.460 democracy or democratic rights or three

01:15:59.600 intentionally create a permissive

01:16:01.000 environment for others to achieve the

01:16:02.460 results in one or two so basically

01:16:04.840 you're not even allowed to say you know

01:16:06.340 guys i'm not sure universal suffrage is

01:16:08.440 working out that makes you an extremist

01:16:11.680 or to advocate a presidential system of

01:16:14.320 democracy exactly you can't advocate for

01:16:16.920 a republic you cannot advocate for any

01:16:19.900 kind of structural change in the

01:16:22.020 political governance of the country

01:16:23.420 that makes you an extremism swiss

01:16:25.620 referendums extremist yes yes i mean

01:16:29.140 literally or have a discussion on what

01:16:31.440 democratic rights should include so

01:16:33.680 it's basically neoliberalism on rails

01:16:36.820 that you can't deviate from if you are

01:16:39.060 not the most extreme form of libtard you

01:16:41.680 are an extremist and also i mean this

01:16:44.540 whole thing like ideology that advances

01:16:47.340 intolerance that aims to negate or

01:16:49.300 destroy fundamental rights or freedoms

01:16:50.520 isn't that islam yeah doesn't that just

01:16:53.660 literally outlaw the most basic reading

01:16:56.620 of the quran then not sharia not just

01:16:59.140 islam but not justice forms of

01:17:00.460 fundamental judaism of course and

01:17:02.300 probably forms of christianity as well

01:17:04.460 but but like again the reason i focus on

01:17:06.880 islam is because of how much they're

01:17:08.200 trying to protect the muslims from the

01:17:10.640 evil criticisms of other people but

01:17:12.860 this this turns almost any ideology

01:17:15.100 that isn't liberalism into a form of

01:17:18.120 extremism it's one of these terms like

01:17:20.000 which which or heretic or whatever the

01:17:22.920 point of it is to keep people on the

01:17:26.380 straight and narrow path and preemptively

01:17:28.980 reprove them for any kind of psychological

01:17:31.440 deviation from that path it's a shut up

01:17:34.140 word that's the point of it and that's

01:17:35.700 the only point of it and but what this

01:17:37.640 is is it instantiates the kind of

01:17:39.660 license for liberal extremists to impose

01:17:43.160 a repressive tolerance on the population

01:17:45.720 now we'll tolerate whatever we think is

01:17:47.880 within the bounds of liberalism and

01:17:49.980 anything else regardless of the effect

01:17:52.240 of it regardless of the philosophy of

01:17:53.740 it regardless of what it thinks or how

01:17:55.860 metaphysically constructs the world is

01:17:58.440 wrong by definition and therefore this is

01:18:02.020 something the government will take action

01:18:03.620 on you saw this in the netherlands the

01:18:05.100 netherlands promoted itself from the

01:18:06.740 70s onwards as this tolerant society

01:18:09.340 fundamentally i was university in

01:18:10.660 leiden and fundamentally shifted from

01:18:12.500 being a pillarized society like northern

01:18:14.220 ireland where it was fundamentally

01:18:15.720 divided along catholic post like

01:18:17.200 everywhere newspapers shops yeah

01:18:19.140 everything to being oh we are we are

01:18:21.660 tolerant and of course what it did was

01:18:23.280 it just created a new group of people

01:18:24.440 you were intolerant of yes which was

01:18:27.260 essentially religious people well

01:18:29.100 that's um this sort of division

01:18:31.040 between protestant and catholic is sort of

01:18:33.560 the the legislative and cultural ground

01:18:35.800 work that introduced multiculturalism

01:18:37.740 really because we made these concessions

01:18:40.080 between other christians who were

01:18:42.240 perhaps genetically quite related to us

01:18:46.460 and then that must mean that we must get

01:18:49.080 people from you know the other side of the

01:18:51.380 world when actually it was just to keep

01:18:53.620 the peace between different factions of

01:18:57.180 christians who were otherwise neighbors and

01:19:00.220 actually have claims of indigeneity to the

01:19:02.880 country anyway going back to the resilient

01:19:05.140 communities part uh they say we will

01:19:07.860 publish an annual state of extremism

01:19:11.040 report setting up the nature of foreign

01:19:13.300 and domestic extremist threats the uk and

01:19:15.240 the government's response they already

01:19:16.340 publish that report every year i hope not

01:19:17.720 hate publish that right they're not

01:19:18.980 the government they're not officially a

01:19:20.760 branch of the government but the

01:19:21.940 government is going to officially produce

01:19:23.320 their own state of hate reports and i

01:19:25.660 guarantee you're all going to feature

01:19:27.140 in it ray so which which will be more more

01:19:30.280 of the de brett's peerage of of hate

01:19:32.440 would it be the government's one or the

01:19:33.560 hope not hate one i think the government

01:19:35.120 one is now we're in a situation we're in

01:19:37.080 a kind of pdc darts versus you know the

01:19:39.540 original darts yeah yeah competition

01:19:41.380 yeah yeah was it the wrestling federation

01:19:44.260 and wcw wwf that's it yeah well the

01:19:47.900 government's got the back of the

01:19:49.260 government so surely hope not hate can't

01:19:51.480 compete with this nick lolz you're gonna

01:19:52.660 have to up again i think it is cooler to

01:19:54.780 be demonized by the government than it is

01:19:56.320 by a bunch of uh you know mutants and

01:19:59.640 yeah a singular convicted pedophile

01:20:02.520 yeah you could have a collective of

01:20:06.260 pedophiles who aren't convicted

01:20:07.800 they put up a job advert yeah for a new

01:20:09.640 pedophile to replace the pedophile that

01:20:10.980 had to leave i'm not too sure i don't

01:20:12.980 know but anyway but this is the point

01:20:14.280 they're going to start literally the

01:20:16.740 state is going to start stigmatizing its

01:20:19.200 own citizens because it is defined the

01:20:21.840 only legitimate position as being a form

01:20:23.880 of liberal extremism and absolutism and so

01:20:27.200 now it's going to literally persecute

01:20:29.800 members of the public who do not believe

01:20:32.600 in the way that they publicly humiliate

01:20:34.360 them yeah it will exactly be but what

01:20:36.620 what they're doing here is saying these

01:20:38.540 people are essentially outlaws right you

01:20:41.460 are not going to get punished in the same

01:20:43.100 way for hurting or attacking or

01:20:44.940 prosecuting them in some way than you would

01:20:47.000 if you would say a muslim if you were to

01:20:49.620 attack a mosque put bacon on a mosque full

01:20:52.460 force of the law but if you go for one

01:20:54.480 of these people they're not going to get

01:20:55.520 the full force they said earlier rule of

01:20:57.100 law and what this is showing you is no

01:20:58.880 there's something beyond the rule of

01:21:01.200 law now there's rule of law and then

01:21:02.840 there's these things which we expect you

01:21:04.300 to conform to which is it's not a legal

01:21:06.240 issue but yeah the police can check your

01:21:08.760 thinking and and and well let's let's

01:21:11.220 get on to check our thinking in

01:21:12.820 disrupting wider extremist influence

01:21:14.960 activity we will develop tools and

01:21:17.000 powers to disrupt organizations that

01:21:18.820 spread extremism hate and threaten

01:21:20.700 public safety so if you are not a liberal

01:21:23.720 as in not a completely orthodox keir

01:21:25.860 starmer approved liberal the state is

01:21:28.000 going to try and destroy your

01:21:29.560 organization i mean that is mad i think

01:21:32.700 wouldn't the salvation army get destroyed

01:21:34.940 from this like wouldn't any kind of just

01:21:37.380 religious organization be in danger of

01:21:41.020 this if you were to just read from the

01:21:42.900 bible read from the quran read from any

01:21:45.280 basically historic religious text it's

01:21:48.460 going to be something that the state

01:21:49.820 could get involved in like this gives

01:21:51.700 them power of all of society well if the

01:21:54.640 church of england wasn't explicitly

01:21:56.420 blasphemous well yeah it would be a

01:21:58.780 case of that as well wouldn't it yes

01:22:00.440 we will also introduce a state threats

01:22:02.940 designation power based on counter

01:22:05.180 terrorism prescription disrupting and

01:22:07.320 deterring most egregious state and

01:22:09.100 proxy organizations from carrying out

01:22:10.460 hostile activity in the uk oh right

01:22:12.400 great so we've got total government

01:22:13.860 security and surveillance there and

01:22:16.400 there's just nothing they're not going

01:22:18.120 to do they're going to and as they say

01:22:20.260 we will ensure robust use of existing

01:22:22.460 hate crime and public order legislation

01:22:23.980 on harmful extremist conduct this will

01:22:26.200 never go away they're giving themselves

01:22:28.400 license to essentially infiltrate and

01:22:31.440 control all social activity and of course

01:22:34.880 securing online spaces will make robust

01:22:37.560 use of the powers sorry use of the

01:22:39.620 robust powers to require platforms to

01:22:41.160 mitigate risks related to their

01:22:42.420 algorithms will give people great

01:22:44.100 control of what they're exposed to

01:22:45.280 online and reduce accidental exposure to

01:22:47.720 hateful content as if everyone was like

01:22:49.500 oh no god i saw a tommy robinson video

01:22:51.520 oh god quick excuse me government i was

01:22:54.260 exposed like who what are you children

01:22:56.540 this is couched in such feminine risk

01:22:58.840 management language as well i find it

01:23:00.640 really frustrating uh segment it's like

01:23:03.100 this kind of person who is not an agent

01:23:04.900 in themselves and he's the government

01:23:06.820 to do everything for them yes and and

01:23:09.940 and that's what as all well said

01:23:11.680 women are always the enforcers of these

01:23:13.420 things yes and they tend to put although

01:23:15.500 there's certain exceptions with um

01:23:17.100 purity uh uh harm avoidance and equality

01:23:20.980 above everything else like these

01:23:23.200 messages on the train who are they for

01:23:25.680 and they're not for the people that are

01:23:27.660 going to be aggressive to the staff no

01:23:29.280 they're for people on there that are a

01:23:30.560 little bit concerned about the possibility

01:23:32.060 of aggression and they want to know that

01:23:34.080 that uh you know big sis yeah is is is

01:23:38.060 aware of the problem they're literally

01:23:39.580 for the npcs anyway so we'll just find

01:23:41.860 uh finish on the executive somewhere on

01:23:43.440 the road ahead right so building

01:23:45.780 confident cohesive and resilient

01:23:47.580 communities is a whole of society effort

01:23:50.000 a whole again just drink that in folks

01:23:54.220 if you think you have a private space

01:23:56.940 away from government intervention you're

01:23:59.260 wrong that's their plan a whole of

01:24:02.100 society effort everyone everywhere and

01:24:05.280 anything that you do they feel entitled

01:24:08.660 to get into and control a new social

01:24:11.740 cohesion task force will drive this work

01:24:13.980 from within the government to identify

01:24:15.260 new policy solutions ensuring strong

01:24:17.340 ministerial oversight collaboration with

01:24:19.460 devolved governments local and strategic

01:24:21.020 authorities civil society and the public

01:24:23.180 will be essential that's the civil civil

01:24:24.740 society thing you don't get civil society

01:24:26.940 in communist regimes because any group

01:24:29.940 any even the local horticultural society

01:24:33.000 is potentially a threat to their power it's a

01:24:35.820 different node of organizations a different

01:24:37.460 node of power and that's you see that even

01:24:39.260 now in eastern europe one of it's slowly

01:24:41.500 changing but one of the consequences of

01:24:42.960 communism is that the similar the level of

01:24:44.780 things like you know middle class silly

01:24:46.880 groups that reading books together and

01:24:49.060 whatever literally is limited whatever it is

01:24:51.540 yeah it's mad and but notice the scope

01:24:55.680 though it's just crazy how they have given

01:24:59.000 themselves license to take over everything

01:25:00.800 literally everything the one thing that

01:25:03.520 they've failed to understand here is that

01:25:05.680 they need to treat the situation with a very

01:25:08.420 light touch to keep things going in their

01:25:10.840 favor and what they're doing here is so

01:25:12.940 heavy-handed that it couldn't possibly not

01:25:16.540 cause backlash and cause problems and

01:25:19.020 basically create greater division than

01:25:22.640 existed before it's demanding a backlash as

01:25:25.460 i've said before it's woke it's woke eugenics

01:25:27.320 they are programmed accelerationism to bring

01:25:30.820 about their own collapse and that's what

01:25:32.400 they're doing the harsher they do it for

01:25:34.200 example with the whole trans issue people

01:25:36.640 weren't that bothered about it when it was

01:25:39.100 just a few people that were deluded and

01:25:41.340 whatever you didn't really mind it was when

01:25:43.620 you were told you pronouns and you've got to

01:25:46.000 put your pronouns on you on your official job

01:25:48.960 email and it becomes intrusive it becomes

01:25:51.180 intrusive and it's stated you must say that you

01:25:54.100 must say this you must say these words then

01:25:57.220 people react uh when they're saying things

01:25:59.220 that are patently absurd people react and this

01:26:01.020 is so heavy-handed i think you're right that

01:26:03.600 the only reasonable reaction by a significant

01:26:06.420 portion of people is to just have the

01:26:10.120 confidence to say no no no the only thing

01:26:13.200 they can really do in an ideological sense

01:26:15.300 because left-wing politics are inherently

01:26:16.980 invasive yeah so that what can they do

01:26:20.560 yeah but i mean we we say left-wing but this

01:26:22.500 is just liberal politics this is the natural end

01:26:24.920 result of liberalism that oh i've brought a

01:26:27.780 series of people who don't agree and really

01:26:29.840 shouldn't be living together into the same

01:26:32.000 polity now i need to make sure that they get

01:26:34.480 along well what does that require well it

01:26:36.380 kind of requires a singaporean sort of

01:26:38.340 totalitarian state and suppression of any

01:26:41.460 kind of dissent frankly lee kwan knew was

01:26:43.440 competent exactly and very based on the

01:26:45.640 question sure but no yeah exactly and these

01:26:48.180 are very cringe on every issue so you're

01:26:50.400 going to be forced to essentially be free

01:26:53.860 anyway we'll we'll skip video comments

01:26:56.360 today just because we haven't got time so

01:26:58.040 i'll go for some comments um i love the

01:27:00.460 poetic irony of how islamic terrorism went

01:27:02.360 over a lefty's head yeah i know it's

01:27:04.140 amazing isn't it like literally like again

01:27:06.800 just most perfect picture um and it's

01:27:10.120 almost tossing a nail bomb as some wet

01:27:11.700 lefty advocates for open borders feels

01:27:13.500 like a monty monty python skit yes it

01:27:16.060 does i wonder if the leftoid champ is

01:27:18.460 laughing because he's so online that either

01:27:19.920 is expecting it to be some prank to earn

01:27:21.800 40k for mr beast or he expects he'll

01:27:24.520 respawn in his bed the next day well

01:27:26.220 again i think it's very much that he just

01:27:28.640 has never experienced anything real and so

01:27:31.360 everything is just virtual to him uh which

01:27:35.120 pathetic really derrick says mental

01:27:38.860 illness is when you fail to deal with

01:27:40.240 reality on reality's terms radicals become

01:27:42.720 radical due to being a social misfit and

01:27:44.940 believing that you can change something

01:27:46.080 else by just wishing for it i mean i think

01:27:48.980 that's a good description of uh mental

01:27:50.840 illness fail to deal with reality on

01:27:52.460 reality's terms

01:27:53.240 that's what's really happening isn't it

01:27:55.980 no i'm not sure there's a good description

01:28:00.800 of mental illness you don't think so well

01:28:02.560 if if if you become it's a it's a kind of

01:28:06.540 maladaptive reaction often that does up to

01:28:08.840 a particular stimuli isn't it so let's say

01:28:10.800 a person's girlfriend dumps them and they

01:28:13.160 can't cope and they have a complete breakdown

01:28:14.920 and then they end up with a spiral of

01:28:17.100 negative thoughts i suppose you could

01:28:18.920 argue these thoughts are not in touch

01:28:21.460 with the reality because they're so

01:28:22.660 negative unrealistically negative they

01:28:24.300 think because i will never get another

01:28:25.220 girlfriend i might as well kill myself

01:28:26.420 but that's not quite the same as not

01:28:28.520 dealing with reality on its own terms

01:28:29.960 george says uh welcoming everyone in the

01:28:33.060 city includes bomb chuckers and people

01:28:34.560 calling them white supremacists so

01:28:35.880 must then they want to re-evaluate that

01:28:37.680 statement well again what the no no no it's

01:28:40.700 implicit in i welcome everyone except you

01:28:44.260 implying you're not a person to me and

01:28:47.140 that's why when a guy tries to chuck a

01:28:48.500 bomb at you i don't even try and denounce

01:28:51.300 it i just laugh at it good you're not a

01:28:53.120 person you're an evil you're basically

01:28:55.880 like sauron in my world view so if you

01:28:57.960 get blown up that's a net good literally

01:29:00.700 what is implied by this kevin says

01:29:03.660 eventually there'll be a model of the

01:29:04.800 complete human brain josh we can do that

01:29:07.340 now all you need is a broken one pound 99

01:29:09.400 calculator triple a battery and you have

01:29:12.020 a fully functional leftist brain but that

01:29:14.140 understands maths that's true i'm not

01:29:17.560 near as good as math i bet a calculator if

01:29:20.520 programmed correctly could understand per

01:29:22.200 capita

01:29:22.520 i'm not reading some of these comments

01:29:26.800 by the way guys

01:29:27.720 our movies are being reviewed bombed by

01:29:31.280 mice

01:29:31.620 richard says you will comply far-right

01:29:36.620 opinions will not be tolerated sucking up

01:29:38.180 to foreigners and religions the way

01:29:39.280 forward i don't know who these cowards

01:29:41.200 are in london but they need dealing

01:29:42.520 with fast well i mean remember kiss

01:29:44.680 lama lid literally did say the other

01:29:46.400 day

01:29:46.760 uh muslims are the face of modern

01:29:48.700 britain

01:29:49.100 did you see that no oh he was speaking

01:29:51.740 to a crowd of muslims some sort of

01:29:53.580 eid celebration or whatever and he was

01:29:55.200 like you're the face of modern britain

01:29:56.860 oh

01:29:58.080 uh well it's kind of true if you watch

01:30:02.480 tv commercials isn't it

01:30:03.480 i guess it's descriptively true yes in

01:30:07.420 some ways

01:30:07.940 omar says jess gill's street interview

01:30:12.720 of long-time immigrants lives rent-free

01:30:14.160 in my head

01:30:14.700 people who've been here 50 years are

01:30:16.420 still picking the home country without

01:30:17.600 hesitation

01:30:18.140 pretty sure my dad would be happy to

01:30:19.780 move back to sudan if we want a hell

01:30:21.120 hole at the moment

01:30:22.000 yeah it's mental isn't it

01:30:23.420 dan says

01:30:25.160 by government definition immune systems

01:30:28.020 are extremism

01:30:28.800 yeah just any any amount of intolerance

01:30:31.400 that's crazy

01:30:32.760 like but that that that renders women

01:30:35.140 only gyms a form of extremism

01:30:37.260 no you can't be coming here you're a

01:30:39.640 man

01:30:39.920 it's like well sorry the government has

01:30:42.440 mandated

01:30:42.900 that's true though because your your

01:30:45.160 immune system is being intolerant of

01:30:47.140 the microbes

01:30:47.780 yes

01:30:48.160 deeply intolerant of i'm i'm in favor of

01:30:50.640 refusing to live with them it's a

01:30:52.080 two-way street

01:30:52.600 but it's not even coincidental this

01:30:54.360 express purpose is to be intolerant

01:30:56.200 i'm in favor of you know oppressing

01:30:58.280 oppressing the lactose intolerant i feel

01:31:00.700 like that's a good sort of section of

01:31:02.560 society

01:31:02.820 but what what they're saying is that

01:31:04.360 at some point there will be some

01:31:06.020 true

01:31:06.400 who goes to a women-only gym and

01:31:08.240 they'll say no you can't come in

01:31:09.000 you're a man

01:31:09.400 we'll be like uh i think not

01:31:11.180 keir starmer is on my side the

01:31:13.280 government will come down on my

01:31:14.340 side because look at you you're an

01:31:15.440 extremist

01:31:16.020 and the women were running a women's

01:31:17.560 only gym

01:31:17.900 i'm like what's going on

01:31:19.620 uh women that go to the gym

01:31:22.180 really short because i went to the

01:31:23.860 gym a couple of weeks ago and

01:31:25.080 everybody was shorter than me yeah

01:31:26.660 i just i hadn't been just to see

01:31:28.720 everyone going oh you should go to

01:31:29.560 the gym

01:31:29.780 so um i went to the gym and i

01:31:32.060 suspected that all the men would be

01:31:33.540 really short and insecure because

01:31:34.740 they were short and thus dealt with

01:31:35.700 it by having lots of muscles and i

01:31:37.540 was right

01:31:38.040 um and and they make noises as well

01:31:40.780 they go

01:31:41.020 horrible horrible um and um yeah

01:31:45.080 they're dreadful places full of

01:31:46.120 short men that deal with their

01:31:47.560 shortness by

01:31:48.220 you know and i'm only five nine but

01:31:49.740 these people are shorter than me i

01:31:50.980 mean

01:31:51.120 hey i go to the gym regularly

01:31:52.980 what are you compensating for

01:31:54.900 i don't know

01:31:55.700 must be my personality i guess

01:31:57.540 under tested

01:31:58.960 under

01:31:59.640 one testicle or something like

01:32:02.380 that

01:32:02.520 i hope not last time i checked

01:32:05.940 no

01:32:06.160 and the last thing is dan says

01:32:07.780 diversity is such a strength it

01:32:09.080 must be enforced by threat of

01:32:10.420 jail

01:32:10.640 not just threat of jail because i

01:32:12.240 mean like you could just have i

01:32:13.640 mean that's what we have now

01:32:14.460 right

01:32:14.860 is if you're if you're expressly

01:32:16.660 against diversity or something

01:32:18.100 yeah you might

01:32:18.560 maybe we'll get sam meliard and go

01:32:20.680 to jail

01:32:21.040 for saying you know whatever like

01:32:23.040 nonsense what did he say on his

01:32:24.520 stickers

01:32:24.800 english would be a minority and

01:32:26.140 it wasn't even that i think it

01:32:27.400 was something much more tepid

01:32:28.600 than that

01:32:29.360 um it's okay to be white or

01:32:31.240 something i think it was but

01:32:32.300 anyway

01:32:32.500 but the point is that's what we

01:32:33.480 have now no what we have now is

01:32:34.700 a proactive

01:32:35.340 uh strategy against the society

01:32:38.700 itself

01:32:39.340 for being what it is

01:32:41.740 that's literally what we've got

01:32:43.500 right

01:32:43.920 anyway

01:32:44.300 and what does it do it forces

01:32:45.760 other people to find other

01:32:47.200 people that have this similar

01:32:48.660 based normal world view uh and

01:32:51.340 who are probably quite

01:32:52.040 genetically similar to each other

01:32:53.540 and create sub-communities and

01:32:55.160 and and feel a sense of

01:32:56.660 confidence

01:32:57.260 there'll be others that will

01:32:58.720 back you up which there is

01:32:59.740 it polarizes to such a degree

01:33:01.600 yes

01:33:01.940 and it also

01:33:03.460 it turns the country into an

01:33:06.540 entirely

01:33:07.040 sort of

01:33:08.480 hall monitor country

01:33:09.740 where the people in charge

01:33:11.400 they're not just like oh we

01:33:12.360 need to worry about

01:33:12.980 making sure everything runs

01:33:14.220 no we need to make sure the

01:33:15.620 ideological conformity of the

01:33:17.160 entire nation

01:33:17.900 and so it's going to be cs lewis's

01:33:19.840 people who persecute you with

01:33:21.520 the approval of their own

01:33:23.040 consciences

01:33:23.600 because at least the robber

01:33:25.000 barons are like okay i've

01:33:25.940 taken your money i'm going to

01:33:26.840 leave you alone now

01:33:27.620 are these people going to take

01:33:28.660 your money and they're going to

01:33:30.100 continue persecuting you

01:33:31.520 without rest

01:33:32.140 like it's just unbelievable

01:33:34.360 anyway we're out of time

01:33:35.680 there so ed where can people

01:33:36.700 find more from you if they'd

01:33:37.740 like more

01:33:38.240 oh they can

01:33:39.160 there's a jolly heretic which

01:33:40.600 is on youtube and on the old

01:33:43.080 uh substack

01:33:43.900 and then i live stream on

01:33:44.980 mondays at 7 p.m uk time

01:33:46.380 uh on on twitter and on youtube

01:33:49.280 i noticed by the way that

01:33:50.160 so there's something going

01:33:50.840 on with with with twitter you

01:33:52.580 have far fewer live viewers on

01:33:54.160 twitter than you used to have

01:33:55.180 i've been noticing this for

01:33:56.200 weeks and i found the same

01:33:57.800 thing you know i don't know

01:33:58.600 what's going on with twitter

01:33:59.200 i have no idea um anyway so so

01:34:00.740 so and then i'm on twitter at

01:34:02.100 jolly heretic and so that i

01:34:04.020 never actually watch live

01:34:04.960 streams on twitter so okay well

01:34:06.800 twitter is not a good platform

01:34:08.960 for video and live stream yet

01:34:10.420 sorry it needs a video tab because

01:34:12.600 you know refreshes and

01:34:13.700 suddenly everything's gone and

01:34:14.660 it's like okay i was watching

01:34:15.580 that

01:34:15.980 if you have live comments

01:34:17.900 down side yeah and yeah

01:34:19.020 there's no live chat or

01:34:19.880 anything like that it's just

01:34:20.680 it's not a good uh platform

01:34:22.740 video but anyway uh don't forget

01:34:25.060 link in the description to come

01:34:26.000 to our live event and we will see

01:34:27.660 you

01:34:28.140 tomorrow

01:34:28.760 all right

01:34:40.800 you

01:34:41.100 you

01:34:42.560 you

01:34:43.520 you

01:34:45.340 you

01:34:47.500 you

01:34:53.080 you

01:34:53.520 you

01:34:54.320 Thank you.

01:35:24.320 Thank you.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - March 10, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1371

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