The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1388
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Summary
Join the lads as they discuss the phenomenal coop coming out of Clapham after the anti-social behaviour in the area, including the arrest of six teenage girls, and look into the mind of Britain's premier thinker, the most accurate predictor of political events, a real Nostradamus as it were.
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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Loadseaters for
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Thursday, the 2nd of April, 2026. Thank God it's not April Fool's Day. I hate April Fool's Day.
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It's the least funny thing ever. I agree. It just annoys me. I'm joined by Nate Amferas,
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and today we're going to be talking about the phenomenal cope that has been coming out about
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Clapham. Luca covered it yesterday. I want to do a follow-up because it's only after the event
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that all the cope starts pouring out of literally everyone. And then we're going to be delving
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You look at the diversity of the area and you realise,
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yeah, that's what it was like six years ago, right?
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I mean, there are places in London that are more diversified,
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how diversity is our strength that is true uh and he must be right about that and it's not just
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self-serving because he is a part of the diversity uh anyway uh this was it six years ago so i mean
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pretty um i wouldn't personally want to live there uh but um i just don't like i mean neither would
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i i just don't like cities you gotta understand i i like living in the towns and the shires uh
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But anyway, so things have been going really well.
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and we're rioting because we have not got something we need.
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that it's just effusive excuberance being expressed
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i mean that's one very kind way of putting it right yeah um that's that's absolutely the case
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but before we continue of course we have the live event on the 11th of april uh come and see us i
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have spent all morning signing our back copies of islander magazine my elbow is killing me at this
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point rsi it's because i've got a stack it's my elbow holding it up that's been the problem
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i've been signing all of these back copies of islander that we've been keeping in our store
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writing over what law and order the fact that we live in a clean and decent country there
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but everyone noticed there's a particular sort of demographic profile to the writers
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they're uh they're youths teenagers they're urban i mean is that if you notice it's bad
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none of these are you from crazy i was gonna say none of them you just know that they are
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no no i mean it's just youths causing havoc youths causing havoc uh okay so what happened
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well turns out six teenage girls were arrested for causing this uh which i mean there was a lot
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more than that well uh yeah as as with all things they've decided we're just going to arrest the
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ringleaders but uh no six teenage girls have been arrested after two separate incidents of
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anti-social behavior fueled by online trends in southwest london the met police have said
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examine this let's sort of examine this it means that a bunch of people got on tiktok or shit talk
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or something or the other yep and decided i'm bored what shall we do let's go break up shops
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and loot them in clap apparently loot the mcdonald's what's how do you even loot mcdonald's
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do you just take run over frozen chicken i don't know i don't understand i guess they do have some
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on the hot plate but i've i've never been involved in a looting flash of ethnic youths before no
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weirdly i i hope this was um distinctly british no no uh it's it's not um but anyway uh three
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girls one age 17 and two age 13 uh were arrested for this um and what that means is that the
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police focused on the weakest and the bunch instead of actually getting well we don't know
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that's the thing like because at the end of the day these sorts of online trends are not actually
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new these have happened before uh and what it is is young urban youths in inner cities who can
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contact each other on social media and get like oh if you know i mean one shopkeeper fried chicken
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shop owner said i would say there was a thousand running around yeah clapham's just our best place
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in the british shows you just want to go there don't you um but it's looting flash mob of fried
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chicken was it cucumber sandwiches were they no no no the fried chicken shop owner said i had to
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close the door i don't want any trouble um there are a lot of them you couldn't count them i'd say
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there was a thousand of them running around but that's the point it's a the bored young inner
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city youths who have formed a flash mob to essentially go and just cause chaos because
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where they were looting like the American candy shops
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if we just act out so why don't we just go for a bit of a joy a thrill-seeking like gang like you
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know form up a little gang and just run around and smash stuff up and be total pricks it's
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fascinating isn't it like the the demographics involved and and and how the media is just trying
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to gloss over everything yep and yet the moment oh i don't know like i always think back to
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southport instantly boom straight out far right thugs not all this and then sorry uh
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crowding around the bleak dystopian McDonald's sign.
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you're just here to collect your prepackaged slop.
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Yeah, get out or go to the chicken shop next door
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I'll bet you that one of the shops in the middle is a vape shop.
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And there's going to be a money-changing shop over there, you know,
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Actually, there's a Turkish Barbers sign there.
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it's it's such a snapshot of the dystopian state of britain at the moment and these are just the
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bored youth who've literally got nothing to do they literally they do nothing and they get
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punished for nothing they've got no expectations placed upon them anyway the met gave us an update
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which uh they posted on twitter um and i i've decided this is the best part of it the parents
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and guardians of those involved in last night's disorder also have a role to play i'd appeal i'd
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appeal to them to take responsibility to be proactive in knowing where their children are
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and who they're with and to take steps to make sure they're not involved in this sort of
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unacceptable anti-social behavior well you know what percentage of these people do you think know
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who their fathers are that's exactly what i was going to say i mean it's bold of met police to
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say that they have parents what percentage of these people's mothers are in social housing and
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are on benefits and not stoned out of their mind i'm sorry but this is not a group of people whose
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entire families have ever actually taken responsibility and we know this by the numbers
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like the numbers are all in we'll go through the numbers in a bit in fact if you want uh but we we
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know the demographic profile of the people we know the kind of things that they do we know the kind
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of environments that they live in and then we know the kind of things they get up to because they're
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bored so okay i don't think taking responsibility is on the table here also also it's not sorry at
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this point they've broken the law i know they're underage but no no no this is actually a police
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matter now but have you considered the kind of soft touch feely feely uh like smooth sort of
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kind calm talkative way that the state wants to deal with this i have well let me show you the
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best the best see the managerial elite the feminized manager elite they they need to know
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why this has happened right okay and so i found this from a chap called tom bennett look at this
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tweet what are the unmet needs here what is this behavior communicating what restorative process
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will enable us to avoid scenes like this in the future so basically saying pay them reparations
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so they don't loot you that's what invaders maybe maybe now they need um i don't know a youth club
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wonderful yeah they need a youth club for instance yeah maybe that will stop them so i have your
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advisor for the uk department for education yes he can tell us then connie you would think now i
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the the reason i had the wayback machine right i had to find the google cache of this tweet
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is because he had locked his account this morning because i had replied to him now let me see if i
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can find that tweet did he delete it or is it is it still here because i would like to show you my
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response oh come on of course he just posted a lot don't he there we go there we go yep
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right so i had said the unmet need is a severe lack of flogging for bad behavior they aren't
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like you and you don't understand them right yes because i think that's correct now this this tom
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bennett chap as you see uh advisor to the uk uh the the government on all the sort of you know
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behavioral school school behaviors a professor of school behavior right and he's just like what are
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the unmet needs what what what restorative process like okay you are discipline is the unmet need
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exactly structure is the unmet need punishment is the unmet need let's let's give tom his credit
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he's probably like 115 iq probably his parents were you know were married all his life probably
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he went to a nice school went to a university got an education and sat there and thought right okay
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the world can be resolved through rational discourse okay tom right which now not to be
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mean about this right but what's the average iq of this crowd right is rational discourse even
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possible with this crowd we'd be below somalians i'm sure well i don't know that's the thing but
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to be yes to be polite about it right it's probably below average and so the question is
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how do these people view abstractions how can they project future events based on current
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behaviors how do they model the future in their own heads yes and the answer for tom is well i
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don't know because this is literally what he's saying here so oh why are they doing this i don't
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know why they're doing this what can we even do it's like you don't know what we're meeting here
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tom are the limits of your philosophy right this is what we're meeting you don't understand why
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this is happening because you have adopted a premise that is everyone is a rational person
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who can be reasoned with in order to make sure they understand what the consequences of current
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behavior will be in the future and you have run into a group of people who just can't understand
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that and who don't care would never have a conversation with you about any of this
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and would literally sit there bored flicking their boogers at you or something and just waiting and
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then the guy go oh that bear bear man was idiot bro and he would just they would just go off like
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like actual reason i'm not gonna try and be mean but like actual idiots about this tom they all
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need to go they need that all of them need to be conscripted they need to be also authoritarian
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humanitarian militaristic training so does tom this this is this is the product of an insanely
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safe civilization yeah that does not understand that actually human beings are rational animals
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there is a rational side which tom thinks is solely the purview of all human endeavor and
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then you have the animal side which tom totally doesn't understand he's coming at it with is the
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carrot all the stick isn't it he he's dangling the carrot like well his entire worldview is the
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exactly whereas people like this they only understand the stick exactly right and you know
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how i know this right this is some of those youths on the way back from clapham right listen to what
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this if if you can understand what this guy is saying i hate language i do too but if you can
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Just imagine, look at the time we're getting back from clapping, you know.
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We have to go for TTIP, you know, go for TTIP, you know.
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I'm probably going to get a spanking, man.
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I'm probably going to get a spanking, man.
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in between all of the gibberish he said i'm probably going to get a spanking man
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right he knows what the correct punishment for this is right the guys involved they literally
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know if you can if you can pass what they're saying right but what what does tom think
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what do you need here brutality frankly tom they all need a social worker or
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don't they just need youth clubs what but they don't have access to table tennis tables
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He's just told you, I'm going to get a spank.
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the thing about this sort of inner city culture,
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I think it was like, I can't remember which teams are playing,
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but I think they're celebrating a football match.
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No, no, Tom, Tom, you need to sit there and explain to them
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about the problems that they're going to encounter in the future.
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You need to make them understand, rationally sit them down
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and have a reasonable discourse with them, Tom.
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I mean, this takes us back to the future doesn't exist argument, right?
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It takes us back to the inability to plan and to see the future
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and to therefore make some kind of pact with yourself.
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But to be able to even conceive that there could be a future state
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that you can achieve by making certain decisions.
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in exchange for being a decent human being later
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That's the trade-off that they can't comprehend.
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Have you guys considered that way of thinking is white supremacy?
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is the fact that actually he's talking to people,
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who literally cannot understand what he's saying.
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I mean, like, do you think this guy understands what he means
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A community goes, oh, blood, what are you talking about?
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And that's the extent of it, and that's the problem.
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The entirety of civilisation, though, modern-day Western world,
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have infantilised these ethnic groups into believing
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that they have to reject anything from the Western world.
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Sure. But I don't know if this sort of guy is someone
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It is. But what that is, is the sort of the Tom people.
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who have essentially eased off of this community.
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So they've gone, okay, well, we've got to leave them alone
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without the knowledge that someone is going to be,
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you know, you are going to run smack into a wall here
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And it's just like, no, sorry, that's just not acceptable.
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And none of your sort of lovey-dovey, libtard nonsense
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yeah, okay, we're going to have to come down hard on this.
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They haven't done anything and they're not going to do it.
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You know, there'll be an increased police presence in the area.
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And the correct way to understand them is as raiding bands.
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Yeah, it was the machete gangs that were running around.
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Yeah, it's the sort of thing that's arranged on social media.
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you know it's like okay don't give my ideas yeah exactly well no but it is but then loads of people
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have been coming out and going oh well social media is responsible it's like oh yes the social
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oh yes it's responsible for that no it's the social media which is why my kids don't do that
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because i don't let them on social media is that the reason that's the only reason they don't do
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that is it right yeah makes sense anyway there was some mega cope that came out of this and
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one of the most mega copes of it was kemi badenock and i i i mean this was just a rake in the face
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uh and i don't i'm not trying to be mean about this in this segment but um
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to those making snide comments about race or black kids you do not see scenes see scenes like
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this in lagos or nairobi not because the children there are different but because actions have
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consequences there are clear boundaries parents communities and authorities do not wring their
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hands or look the other way now in that second half she's correct yeah but um there is still an
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ethnic component because even even if we all agree that actually everyone's the same every
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every group of people all around the world are exactly the same uh you do see scenes like this
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in lagos and nairobi uh she she was just constantly uh ratioed with people posting this and so what i
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did is just typed in a google of an african country and then the word looting and you find
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This is Nigerian looters in 2020 who were looting the aid.
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Then you have South Africa who are looting in the Eastern Cape.
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because, I don't know, the Kenyan Prime Minister or whatever
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And need we address the summer of loving in America?
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Coming out with the incredibly expensive shoes and things.
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then you've got south africa looting in 2021 then you've got mozambique looting costing 12 000 jobs
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in 2024 and you've got the looting of food trucks in niger which is just amazing just amazing uh
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then you've got uh then oh yeah that was right i got to uh was a ghana i think this was and the
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only looting i could find in ghana was by the government which was looting the people uh so i
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mean it just i can't help but feel that actually that's yeah exactly kemi is coping very hard and
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it's not true what she's saying and yeah i mean if i were to search looting in wales or scotland
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or maybe there'd be some in scotland but there wouldn't be much in wales no i'm joking scots
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i mean even if you even if you accept her the premise that um it's not because they are that
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they are doing that okay sure fine but maybe it's because they are who they are and other individuals
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can see the ethnic component by which allows the permissiveness of their behavior so it's still
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even if you entertain your position our reaction to ethnicity even if you entertain her position
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it is still down to the ethnic component but this reaction to the ethnicity comes from the 1980s
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riots in Brixton and in other places that were driven by the idea that the police was being too
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hard against the school. Which is racist. And the conclusion was, you know, the Stephen Lawrence
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inquiry that found that, no, no, no, the Met Police is institutionally racist. That is why
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the Met Police is backing down. So the actual origins of this date back to the 80s with these
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kinds of ethnic riots where cars were burnt and used as barricades and now here we are i mean so
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like kemi she does protest too much well that that one singular incident right if they had
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actually come down if the met police had come down on them in the way that they should and the
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way that they're saying that they're going to that will blow their quotas way out the window oh god
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yeah it will be screwed i mean we know that the police have quotas for graphs that they're trying
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to follow who yeah but the police will be framed as an active instrument of white supremacy yeah
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exactly and this is exactly what sadiq khan himself did with stop and search against boris
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johnson boris johnson imposed stop and search and they were like oh it's disproportionately
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targeting urban youths and boris was like yeah but the knife crime is down and sadiq khan literally
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ran on the campaign of i will stop stop and search with the knife crime so anyway parents
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should know where their children are and what they're doing discipline should start at home
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But so this is, oh, yeah, that I forgot to say.
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There's so much looting in Africa that these sort of prison shops exist
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where you can't loot it because it's barricaded up.
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I go into a shop, and it turns out that I'd rented an Airbnb on the border.
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Everything apart from, you know, suntan lotion.
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Whereas in Japan, they brag about not having to tie down their Apple products.
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Well, they have actually broadly the same problems that we have here.
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Less than one third of black South African children live with their biological fathers.
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Okay, but that's a problem for discipline, isn't it?
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that's a bit of a problem and that explains this current state of south africa in a lot in large
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ways right in 2005 they did a survey uh of how children were punished in africa and they found
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out that 90 of the children were just beaten just beaten and the beatings were carried out by
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largely the mothers and a seven to one ratio roughly the ratio of fatherless to fathered
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These are the Asian ones. They're very low.
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All right, well, that's not scrolling properly for some reason.
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So the whites and Asians are pretty much the same with that.
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Mostly it's, apart from the gypsies, but don't worry about them.
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But then you get to the black Caribbean and just African households,
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and it's more than half of them don't have fathers in households.
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And so what do the Africans do about their wayward children?
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Well, as the BBC tell us, the African parents say,
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pick the stick that you want me to use to beat you.
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And we'll play a bit of this because it's actually really interesting.
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She like kicks her slipper into her hand and she's like,
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you in Swahili says in Takuchapa like I'll beat you like you over here we're not doing this right
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so I'm like all right then let's let's go like you're gonna do it and we were like running
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mind you my mom used to play a lot of sports she used to play basketball all this stuff so we're
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on the table doing these ones like across the table from each other and I like managed to like
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run away and run up the stairs and she's at the bottom of the stairs so I'm like ah I made it
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running up the stairs and she takes her slip and throws it up the stairs without missing a beat
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I mean, that's hilarious, but there was another one
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where I think it was, yeah, this one, actually.
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But I think the other aspect is probably because,
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they are the ones who would give us the beatings.
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I had an aunt, for example, I love the two beats,
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So she would tell you, my aunt would tell you,
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go and collect the stick that you want me to use to beat you.
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Northwest European households are very individualistic.
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They're what they call atomic households that have a mother, a father and the children and actually minimal influence from external family relations.
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This is not like the Mediterranean, who have much denser, wider family relations all across the Mediterranean, in fact.
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And the Africans, as you can see, their view of familial relations are literally it's a village.
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So, I mean, like when I was young, you know, if I did something wrong, then I'd get smacked by my dad.
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the idea of my aunts or uncles smacking me was pretty unthinkable yeah but i mean i knew i was
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going to get a smack from my dad so you know it didn't really matter but this completely normal
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no no the answer that what why aren't the parents punishing you you know the parents are actually
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hands-off here and it's the aunts and uncles that have to smack the kids and so it's very
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interesting how they've just got completely different social structures and we don't
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understand them right we do not understand but this is what they do in africa and so i guess
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we'll just leave that there just because um just say this is this is a really really complex social
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problem that is just never going to be solved because essentially what we would have to admit
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is that different kinds of communities have different expectations of the world around them
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Think about it this way. The benefit system here enables the atomization of households
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for the recipients of benefits. The internal wiring demands being raised by a village.
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There is this incongruence that happens, and the result of that is the scenes that you get in Clapham.
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Precisely. That is precisely it. We are expecting them to live like us
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when they have a wholly different expectation of how they should be living.
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Who knew that man-made horrors beyond our comprehension
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would refer directly to other people instead of technological terrors?
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And as I said yesterday, the crowd controlling this horde
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well, if this was happening in Nigeria or whatever,
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It's like, well, yeah, I could have found examples of that, actually,
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i'm just soliciting beers no watch it come on down watch it it's gonna be good fun all right
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it's gonna be really really good fun and if you like those kind of events you've got to go and
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support them because they don't happen without your support so super important anyway um this
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mouse is working right so like i said we're just going to delve into the mind of uh rory stewart
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here so he god rory stewart and the also most correct and smartest man in the world ollie
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doug more is that yeah yeah for the new statesman and the new society so there's so much you can
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pull from this it's just it's truly fascinating um yeah it's there's i actually had a lot more
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note timestamps but obviously we can't get through it all it's a really long interview
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um hour and 10 minutes and if you're going to dissect it and do commentary my god it's hard
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so we're just over to the lads we're just going to listen to this um i want to circle back to
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what you were saying about the idea of what it meant to be a boy and a man and if we could just
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talk about that in the present day what you think it does mean to be a boy to be a man in 2026 in
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we were talking just before we came on air with this amazing Louis Theroux documentary on the
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manosphere, where he's interviewing male influencers, projecting a particular vision,
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kind of Andrew Tate masculinity. And of course, I've got two sons. So I've been trying to get my
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head around this. I think there seems to be, on a sort of rough population basis,
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biological differences in terms of male testosterone aggression, competitiveness,
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appetite for risk, particularly with young men. And I think it's important to bring up boys and
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educate them in a way that recognize that roughly on average, they're a bit different
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I was talking to a teacher in the state system recently who was talking in a very funny way
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about what it's like having 15, 16 year old boys in your class and the kind of things
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they get up to and the sort of tolerance you need to have for the madness of what people
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And I do feel that is quite important, which is how do you celebrate aggressiveness, but not violence?
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You know, how do you celebrate risk taking, but not careless irresponsibility?
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How do you celebrate competitiveness, which isn't belittling other people?
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I mean, I feel like this is already a pretty solid foreshadowing
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What a completely trite and trivial observation, Rory.
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On average, in general, without getting too specific.
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The fact that he says it with such hesitation and fearfulness...
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I'm approaching a really controversial subject here.
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He's really terrified of what was going to be said about him
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That's the incredible incisive commentary he has on that.
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Yeah. This is a good intro to what we're dealing with here on this segment.
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But if you notice how he framed it, he left it open to being able to say, but some men, but some women can have penises.
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Exactly. If you parse what he's saying, he's leaving the possibility open.
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Yeah, I mean, there are some women with penises, you know, a very small minority, as Keir Starmer said.
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But they exist, and we should respect that.
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But also, he's also acting as if he's broaching
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It's like, yeah, well, we've recently found, actually.
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And the question was, what does it mean to grow up as a boy in Britain?
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We need to find a way for boys to channel their competitiveness.
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You would have played in the posh school you went to
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when you were a boy and i'm sure you loved rugby look at your frame you know i'm sure you absolutely
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loved a bit of rugger you know like rory we know all of this this is time tested you went to school
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where men and women boys and girls did different sports and the girls played hockey and you played
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rugby like just like i know i didn't play in such a nice school but like just like i did when i was
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at school sure you did when you were at school this is not something that oh well we need to
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figure out what we can do for men and women and boys and girls so to to foster their different
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natures no this this was so so obviously well understood just 50 years ago not even somebody
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should ask him if we need finishing schools for girls or something like that he does his mind
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i'm totally for it though i'm totally segregated education they learn differently anyway let's
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carry on oh yes this is amazing treasure trove right honestly it really is it really is um
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You used the phrase there, political evil, extreme political evil.
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I know you grew up in the Blairite education system.
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Where do you, if you're looking around the world now,
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Well, the word evil means many, many different things.
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But for me, one of the most fundamental aspects is carelessness.
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firstly these are two completely different categories he's broaching it from the perspective
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of i need to i need to uh i need to broad stroke the definition here so so no one can sort of
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paint me into one little box i need to say that there's loads of meanings but there's just this
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one that i'm going to focus in on but then when it comes to carelessness does being careless about
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the future of your own people count as evil but that should be a question well no the the reason
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aha right now this is great point the the reason that we don't think of these people as evil and
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it's only like you know people online who are very concerned about this thing right it's because evil
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fundamentally is about intentionality right you have to think and will something to be done to
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someone so carelessness can never be evil as it would be defined in any normal sensible run over
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hedgehog exactly right and and so you can accidentally do these things and don't get me
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wrong when you're oh no i'm so sorry i didn't mean to do that right or if you are evil go ha ha i
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didn't mean to do that but but but the act itself wasn't evil because it wasn't intentional this is
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why murder and manslaughter are two different categories precisely precisely right so like
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use it well evil could be carelessness no it couldn't it actually couldn't the one thing it
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couldn't actually be you've hit on rory is a thing he chose casual disregard for consequences
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now that could be us in our own private lives you know the way we treat a romantic partner
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just causing chaos sleeping with lots of people not carrying the misery it causes them
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or it could be what i see in donald trump which is so sorry sorry we've gone from being
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sleeping around to donald trump so we've gone from peter madison to donald trump and they both
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sort of sleep around but slightly differently i mean one of them actually is evil
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a whimsical complete disregard for thinking through consequences in this case he gets out
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bed in the morning and he thinks, ah, Israel's going to bomb them anyway. And, you know,
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Jesus. And he upends all the economies of the Gulf. I mean, UAE, Dubai will struggle
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to recover in the next 10 years from what he's done. He has driven up oil prices. He's crippled
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the economies of Europe, he will mean that very poor farmers in sub-Saharan Africa, Latin
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America will not be able to access fertilizer because he's driven up the oil price. He has
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unleashed misery on Iran itself. And my guess is he just doesn't care. And so for me, evil
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in Trump is just a sort of sense of a sort of slick,
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We've got many criticisms of Trump's Iran war.
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And, of course, the things we're already saying here,
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But if it's done through recklessness and carelessness,
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it's not evil yep it's a different category it's yes it's hubris it's pride it's all kinds of other
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things but and in some way it's actually worse right yeah because like evil at least means you
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have regard from the person acting upon you right rather than irrelevance yes you know like there's
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what's the quote from the street fighter movie you know oh for you it was the most important day of
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your life but for me it was a tuesday yeah yeah that's you know that that's worse in a way because
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at least if you know Sauron's trying to kill you or take your village at least you're like I'm
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important Sauron I'm at least someone who gets recognition of the importance of me no for Donald
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Trump it's irrelevant okay bad but it's not evil it's just something else also I mean what is
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highlighting there is the world's reliance on other people so well actually you need to get down to
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like anyone who has an issue with what Donald Trump has done fundamentally you need to look
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you can have your your issues with it for sure but like britain for instance we're suggesting
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that oh so our stability hinges on someone else okay exactly but that's actually that's a failing
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of us and our leaders it's a failure it's not a failure of trump exactly trump is in control of
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america you can have your criticisms of him and they're fair but you also have to be well aware
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that each nation state should be completely independent and not reliant on others otherwise
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it is a failure and if you're not you should expect things like this to end up happening
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exactly so it's just honestly there's so many interesting things in this i just tried to do
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like the highlight okay so we are dipping around and here and there um this one in particular is
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before we begin just ollie everything about ollie i know i'm in the presence of a profound thinker
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no no yes it's also that he is profound as well he's asking such deep questions yes yeah yes i
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tried to include him specifically because i knew i do like i'm interested in how i feel like there
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is a an understanding that's characterized by empathy that actually is an understanding of
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that world and when i look across national british political discourse i cite some recent
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examples, whether it's Nick Timothy saying that Muslims praying in Trafalgar Square during Ramadan
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is some kind of act of domination, whether it's reform, other parties on the radical right in
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Britain pledging to do things like banning the burqa, that essentially the way that I think much
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of our politics engages with Muslims in Islam is a bigoted one. And whilst there are obvious
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downsides and consequences, not least for Muslims living in Britain for that, there is now
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increasingly i think in the explicit national interest in this instance in foreign policy
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that ignorance means that the west's activity in iran it's it's if it was more characterized by
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intelligence and understanding of empathy it seems to me that our national interest might
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be better served and i would just kind of invite your reflections on that culture on that
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the sort of animosity that exists in much of our politics
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towards people of this faith, people of this religion that live here.
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Is he saying that we should be pandering to Muslims
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more than we already do for the national interest?
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And so for foreign geopolitics, our focus on foreign geopolitics...
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I mean, Keir Starmer literally said they were the face of modern Britain.
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That's the suggestion that he's making, basically.
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I mean, essentially, the AFD in Germany or the far right in Britain
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or all those people on social media who are talking about Judeo-Christian values
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and saying, I've got nothing against people of colour.
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or I just don't like Islam, are basically racist.
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I mean, essentially what they're trying to do is drive hundreds of thousands, millions of people out of their country.
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I mean, the AFD, some of their leadership are very clear about it.
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You're a Muslim, you're going to be shoved out of Germany.
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I mean, this idea that somehow Islam itself is a kind of inherently bad religion and other religions are sort of inherently good is completely demented.
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I mean, the whole world history is littered with Christians doing horrible things, Buddhists doing.
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I mean, even Buddhism has a kind of radical French Hindu nationalists doing bad things, right?
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Religious Zionists in Israel doing horrible things.
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All of them, if you're an extremist, appealing to some weird scriptural justification.
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But the point is that the extremism precedes the scriptural justification.
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It's not driven by the scriptural justification.
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This same Islam, and I've spent a lot of my life living in Muslim countries.
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My lived experience is of extremely generous, dignified, thoughtful, empathetic societies,
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which don't begin to resemble the kind of ideas
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This is amazing because what Rory is arguing for here
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is ethnic segregation along racial and religious lines.
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Because he's like, oh, I grew up in Pakistan.
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I grew up in Afghanistan where everyone is a Muslim
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and an Afghan and they have a particular settlement
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that is essentially just unchallengeable like what could you go to afghanistan and pakistan
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and start proselytizing another religion it's probably illegal yes it's controlled by the
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taliban and by like you can get arrested for taking bibles into the country and and he's just
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like yeah and so everyone was very kind and generous because the settlement was you do
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things our way and therefore we can afford to be kind and generous and now we've brought in
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millions of people from a radically different faith who have a radically different worldview
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and everyone's like christ they're changing everything we're not happy with the way things
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are and he's like well i just don't understand it's like they're just racists and yeah they're
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just racists it's like that's hold on give give me a second the point that he makes about the
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scripture not driving this is nonsense this is utter nonsense yeah it was precisely the nature
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of islamic scripture that led islam to reject philosophy yeah that rejected rejection of
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philosophy is what led to the extreme legalism to the thoughtlessness behind islam to the idea
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that the word of god is a stone tablet rather than something that is alive it it derives precisely
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from the scriptures and if you look at the history of islam it's littered with this stuff
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it keeps on happening you keep on getting these movements that are saying you're not muslim enough
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you need to be more muslim and the way to make you do that is to kill you i mean that's change
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your mind so so just as a quick thing on this right that that that is explicitly the reason
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that we are plagued with such radical forms of islam now exactly the diabandi school of islam
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which is half the mosques in this country was established in northern india as a reaction to
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the british empire spread spreading his enlightenment values same with the salafists
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in saudi arabia an explicit reaction to napoleon and the other like enlightenment radicals coming
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and spreading their philosophy like this this is just not true rory it's just not true also his
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statement of well my lived experience yeah well okay sure sure i mean one rory stewart turned up
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in a pakistani village and they were they were kind to him yes i would expect that rory
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were you a 12 year old girl yeah well his lived experience to him supersedes the entire uh english
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lived experience where we've had to live amongst these people for quite some time and we've had
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enough but why do you think this has come up rory yeah yeah our lived experience is not a pleasant
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one mate we don't want them here no one's being like oh the chinese are such a problem right
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because little chinese people are running corner shops like chinese takeaways no one has a problem
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with it i mean a lot that fueled brexit was a lot of the polish we had a lot of problems with polish
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people people forget that yes and no disrespect to polish people i've met many of you and you're
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absolutely brilliant but we did have a big issue with polish here and that is often forgotten now
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but that was one of the large driving factors of Brexit.
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So, you know, it's very selective for a reason.
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Farage got in trouble saying there were going to be loads of Romanians coming over.
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Because do we actually want loads of Romanians coming over?
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We've got loads of problems with Albanians right now.
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For him, the idea of racism is predicated on rejecting the blank slate.
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If you accept the reality that different groups of people are genuinely different,
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and that it's a good thing that they're different and that's part of god's plan and we can't have
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diversity without it rory exactly exactly yeah if you accept that diversity is real that there is
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genuine human diversity then the conclusion is well you must be racist but at the same time
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you must safeguard the peculiarities of pakistani culture or of you know some weird native indian
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tribe or what have you so it's an entirely incoherent position that is predicated on
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black slate-ism and that everybody's exactly the same.
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It's like you can't have an issue with that as an ideology.
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And no one's saying there are kind people in Islam.
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So I imagine if you go to almost any Muslim country,
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yeah, the Muslims will probably be nice enough.
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But the minute you transgress certain lines, that stops.
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you're probably going to end up being arrested.
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Go to China and tell them that they should,
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ignorance. I mean, it's not very different from the kind of way that, well, our experience,
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I suppose, with other forms of racism. That the kind of ways that people thought about
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black people when they hadn't met any black people, or the kind of ways that people thought
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about people who were gay until they actually had some gay friends. I mean, a lot of it
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is simply that. They just don't know any Muslims, right? They don't understand the lived experience
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of it they don't understand um we do mate that okay for the sake of time can we just add to that
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all right yeah sorry sorry honestly rory i know i know um and so then there was this one which i
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found this this is our final one uh it was about you and about mit romney and it said it was it
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said that you'd been you've been proven right on most things but that you weren't that you didn't
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have the fiber of a, you know, a national political leader or something. And I thought
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it was so, it was Jananganesh and it was, it was so interesting about what it revealed
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about our society that, you know, someone can give an incredibly prescient contribution
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about the need to increase defense spending in Britain. But at the end of the day, if
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you're not prepared to make an intervention on the Prince Andrew scandal or whatever,
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then it's your sort of politics doesn't reward you for being right. Right. That's not how
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politics works it doesn't also i mean i've been wrong about lots of things too um and it doesn't
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necessarily particularly punish you for being wrong i mean it's it's um it also finds it very
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difficult to uh accept that all you can hope for from a politician is that they're trying to learn
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and that there's some humility and they're trying to be a bit more right than wrong but
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what i notice is is um the right and the far right and the brexit right
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have this amazing uh current tendency having been catastrophically wrong in their decision to pursue
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brexit right which i think the majority of the british people now accept they screwed that was
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a stupid decision catastrophically wrong in their flirtation with trump catastrophically wrong
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in their vulnerability they exposed to U.S. tech.
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Catastrophically wrong in the way that they managed
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immigration and the British economy after 2017.
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literally the metaphysic of what a human being is you're wrong about none of those things were
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done by the right or the far right they were done by the libtard center camera night conservatives
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i know that you were a part of yeah that you actually do represent in your opinions this is
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mental i know genuine inside the mind is is fascinating right actually fascinating it's
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like the mind of a child yeah yeah a really serious child though yes yeah serious child
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11th of April and apparently I'm moderating a debate about Star Wars. Yes. Do you know about
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Star Wars? I know that I hate them all equally. There we go. That's why you're the perfect
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moderator. Fine, fine. So let's sort of get started. Trump offered the Iranians a very veiled
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and confused ceasefire because he said that the regime is begging for a ceasefire, which we'll
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get to that in a second. But that was conditional on opening the Strait of Hormuz, which remains
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blockaded by the Iranians, who are actually in full control of it, as we will see in a second.
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It's the same president, and the new leader is the son of the old leader,
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who was killed in an airstrike, along with his granddaughter and the guy's wife and so on. So
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it really wasn't working I'm sure he's totally less radicalized yes I think that was a de-radicalizing
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experience yeah yeah um but the IRGC quickly said that we're not opening the Strait of Hormuz
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and you are engaged in ridiculous theatrics which pretty much um didn't do the talks any good
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And then, according to the Times of Israel, the Iranians went ahead and fired the largest missile salvo from the first couple of days of the war, meaning that the Iranians still have effective command and control, that they can coordinate their strikes, and they're still coordinating them with Hezbollah, meaning that when the diplomats of Iran sense that there was some weakness on the part of the states,
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because that's how they read the fake ceasefire offer, they got the military to act in a
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coordinated manner, meaning that the attacks on the missile cities that the Iranians have
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were not as effective as advertised. That's an accurate reading though, right? Because what
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Trump is doing with that statement is trying to give them an off-ramp. Because it's been apparent
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Trump's approval is at the lowest it's ever been.
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the iranians do this regularly when trump fired john bolton in 2019 if you remember the iranians
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smelled weakness and what did they do they attacked saudi arabian energy right and here
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they smelled weakness and that trump was trying to give them a way out they doubled down because
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they don't actually want to ceasefire right now the iranians i think it's important to remember
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have had this bunker mentality since the revolution yes and they've been planning for this since the
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90s. I bet a lot of them are actually really excited it's finally happening. The IRGC look
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like they are. Yeah. The IRGC look like they are. Some of the political leadership, they don't want
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the destruction. That's normal. And so Trump says that actually the objectives are nearly complete.
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Why are they firing the biggest salvo in Israel if the objectives are complete?
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Netanyahu had said the day before that actually, so two days before he said that 50% of the
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objectives were complete. And then the next day before Trump began signaling that he wanted an
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off-ramp, he said, well, actually, Iran is no longer an existential threat. So we've solved
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the problem. And the reply from the Iranians was, the biggest salvo of missiles almost is the start
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of the war. I mean, there's never seemingly been a clear objective, to be fair. And it seems to
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change the goalposts and move consistently nearly within, it's not even just day by day, but
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literally within a day, the goalposts seem to be changed. And here's the thing. The fact is that
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the objective has now become to open the Strait of Hormuz. Yeah. That's what the objective became.
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The objective is return to the state of play before the war. Let's get back to the status
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quo. Exactly. And the reaction from the Americans is we're going to bomb Iran to the Stone Age.
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Now, let me explain this in sort of how this works.
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When these wars start, the Americans and the Israelis have what they call a target bank,
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which is the military objectives that they want to destroy in order to stop the enemy from fighting back.
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This has happened in the past where the target bank is depleted because everything in it has been bombed.
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But the intended result, which is stopping the enemy from fighting back, hasn't been achieved.
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wasn't the talk of them wiping out the grid as well
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There was talk of them completely obliterating.
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Meaning that life in the Gulf as we know it
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are using desalination plants for water, aren't they?
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Saudi is something like 60, 70 percent, UAE 80, 90 percent, et cetera.
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So that's the next step, the exchange of war crimes.
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And you know that the Iranians are going to be able to target these assets in the Gulf and collapse it.
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And now they're inserting themselves into American politics and backing the No Kings protests.
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capitalizing on the fact that Trump's popularity is crashing.
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Are you trying to say the Iranians have gone woke?
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They know the fractures and cleavages in American society
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He doesn't understand the fractures and cleavages
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He was like, right, if I take out the Ayatollah, you're going to rise up, right?
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And the fact that the opening strike involved murdering children in a girl's school,
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and the fact that they are now bombing pharmaceutical plants in Iran,
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is only going to rally the public and radicalize them.
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the reality is that the iranians are in full control of hormuz and they are charging ships
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to be able to pass and the chinese are paying because the payments are being made in chinese
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yuan right so the people that actually are this war is supposed to you know in the 4d chess
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theories this is a war that is supposed to hurt china no no the chinese are getting what they
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need also one dollar a barrel doesn't seem that unreasonable no it's like a hundred dollars a
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barrel or whatever okay well you got to pay a one one dollar transport fee yeah that's not that much
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it really isn't it really isn't and uh you know they get to verify which ships are allowed to go
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through and if there's any connection to the u.s or israel they say no you're not allowed to pass
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and now they're offering apparently the europeans a deal i saw allow them to get their oil out again
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like that's clever you know whether you like the iranians or not and i don't like the iranians
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the mullahs anyway like you you can't deny they've played this well they're playing this quite well
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their country's being destroyed and they're not giving up yeah you know and the thing is that the
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economy won't survive this yeah there's i mean we can tell exactly we're living in it exactly
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the bet that trump is making is that with another two or three weeks of additional bombing he's going
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So because the Nord Stream was blown up by the United States,
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Europe depends on Qatari LNG to a much higher degree,
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typically what Europe does is maximize the buildup of reserves,
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And you can see what this is doing to Trump's popularity
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He's losing the people who delivered him the White House.
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whereas Biden was fighting a Ukraine first policy.
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And now you're fighting an Israel first policy.
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Let's just play devil's advocate ever so slightly,
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He did, however, suggest that we could buy jet fuel from America.
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So there's somewhat an element of a tactic there, it seems, a strategy.
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So maybe, but Europe is getting to a desperate position.
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Diesel prices are going through the roof, which all transport depends on diesel.
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A lot of this is still self-inflicted by respect of not buying anything.
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This is, like, European policy itself is stupid and evil,
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uh so it's the highest level since the ukraine war now right and it looks like it's going to
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keep on rising if this exchange of destruction of power versus energy etc keeps going malaysia
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among a bunch of other countries like thailand and the philippines are basically going into a
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quasi lockdown mode this is what surprised me when uh we had that announcement that yes there
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it was going to be a coordinated, near coordinated statement
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from like three world leaders, America, Australia, and then the UK.
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aside from what Australia's PM said, which was a case of,
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yeah, you probably should begin to knuckle down a little bit.
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Keir Starmer announced that there'd be tax cuts to fuel,
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which i mean obviously there shouldn't be any that was gonna that was gonna be brought in anyway
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he's not yeah he's not he's not initiated anything that wasn't gonna happen kia starmer
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accidentally wins again this is what i mean it was a non-announcement because that's what all
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the questions were like i didn't know you've not announced but that's what was going to happen
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anyway so are you should are we should we start slowing down and he was like no should we because
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you're not said anything different now yeah i mean if he had any sense yeah he'd be cutting
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taxes on the north sea and sort of going for all over in terms of ed milliband's in charge of that
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exactly so it's not the trump is trying to say that this is going to help the american economy
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because everybody's going to have to buy energy from the united states but even american consumers
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are going to be hit quite badly yeah but also a hundred dollar oil hurts american voters and is
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damaging his coalition. But I also don't think Trump, Trump has underestimated the sheer
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self-harm Europe is willing to put themselves into by not buying anything from America.
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Yes, yes. And speaking of Americans, the corn growers, I mean, the corn lobby is one of the
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most powerful lobbies in the United States, because I think 48 states of the 50 grow corn.
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And if they're not going to be planting as much, their pockets are going to be hit, and they're going to be angry, and they are an integral part of the Trump coalition because they dominate the red states.
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Yeah, you can't have corn syrup in all the things you eat if you don't have the corn lobby.
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Yeah, well, there you go, exactly. Or ethanol, for that matter.
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South Korea is going crazy and saying, save every drop of fuel, we're in a desperate position.
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yeah um china is saying no more fertilizer exports which is going to be a disaster that
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sounds like stockpiling to then sell it higher well down the lines yes waiting tactic isn't it
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so you're making china richer and the russians have said the same thing they're suspending their
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own exports of fertilizer and of a bunch of things and just in case you're wondering soda bottles
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peanut butter jars sandwich bags yeah these guys are all getting hammered for anyone who doesn't
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know everything made of plastic comes from oil well even um even an element of your clothing
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will as well so there's going to be genuinely there's going to be everywhere so it's hitting
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microchips it's hitting clothing it's hitting packaging it's hitting food it's going to hit
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meat prices obviously it's hitting fuel there is nothing that is being spared yeah and the issue is
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does the world economy break first or do the iranians break first
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and trump is thinking sorry go on i was gonna say how's this going to affect my games workshop stock
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well i guess that's why they've decided to go right we're bombing back to the stone age that's
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the point yes yeah to break their will we have to do this now because otherwise these are religious
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zealots you're just martyring them yeah and they don't care about the suffering of their own people
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and that should be said which has been pretty evident the whole regime that was part of their
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justification for doing it in the first place exactly and so now trump has reverted to mocking
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the europeans oh brilliant and attacking nato we've been destroying your energy supplies
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destroying any of your imports exactly and now we're going to call you a paper tiger it's like
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So instead of Trump being the kind of North Star, shall we say,
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for a broader right-wing coalition across Europe and Canada...
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It is, again, just to play devil's advocate ever so slightly,
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It must be really irritating to be the commander-in-chief of America,
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I'm just trying to play devil's advocate a little bit.
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and you are discrediting people who agreed with you.
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I don't think it will help the European right
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I meant leaving NATO would have helped the European right
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no I still think all of these actions right now
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for the right wing movement in Europe and Britain
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Keir Starmer, yeah, we're going to get close ties with Europe.
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No one wants that, but that's his now justification.
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And while some of the taunts against Europe are funny, like...
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is forcing the European right to be anti-American.
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we're going to have to now be like no no we need you know yeah full a divorce from america yes
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because america is not a trustworthy partner they do not seem to care i mean trump like that trump
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allowed canada to go to carney is really stupid yes yeah he like polar bear isn't like some
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radical rightist but having a vaguely sympathetic administration would have been far superior and
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destroyed the legacy of justin trudeau right but instead now it's confirmed it right yes and it's
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And I said this at the time, Trump threatening to annex Canada was the reason that Carney won, which was obvious.
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And now it's going to be if like Keir Starmer or that sort of wing of politics win again in this country, it'll be because of Trump.
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And then being like, oh, but no one will come to my head.
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It's like, yeah, but you know these people hate you,
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and you've just secured their position in their own domains
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rather than creating a kind of pan-Western right wing
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that actually would have come to your assistance
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And he's forcing all of us to be like, okay, no, we're against you,
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because I'm totally against what he's doing here.
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And now he's saying, you know, as you mentioned, Nate,
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either you come and help us or buy oil from the United States and Venezuela
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But this is going to impoverish the American consumer
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because of the price of oil, and that shouldn't be forgotten.
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But the issue is that the Europeans are still going insane anyway.
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And now the EU Commission is saying you need to work from home, drive less,
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and that there has to be a faster rollout of renewables.
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Because for everything that you get out of wind and solar,
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you need to have a parallel power plant that can provide the same amount
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Yeah, all this does is it gives the EU and the UK
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And it should be said that the Europeans do have
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But instead we get Ed Miliband in this country.
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to japan brilliant and so if this was some kind of 5d chess move to hurt china to enrich the
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chinese i i it's enriching russia and it's enriching china congratulations what are you
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doing here which is again something which is taken to the european electorate and saying well
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this was trump's plan all along to to help get in bed yeah to get in bed with putin but also
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again europe yeah blowing up the north stream pipeline closing the straits for moose but you
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could frame this as a direct attack on europe itself not to mention that if you try to send
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it on to the stone age the 90 people are going to start walking and turkey's going to open the
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border yeah so if you frame this as a war to destroy europe that might explain why the french
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and the british and the italians and the spanish don't want anything to do with it yeah because
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that is going to be the effect of it and it really doesn't help that trump's surrounded by lunatics
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yes it really doesn't help that this creature paula white is saying you were betrayed and
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arrested and you're like jesus oh that's what happened to jesus and so trump is being compared
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to jesus here yeah fantastic and god is using trump to destroy iran oh brilliant and then you
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get this lunatic franklin graham talking about how this is a repeat of the book of esther
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and that this is about saving the jewish people from the evil persians oh they've come out and
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said it all right then the persians didn't want to kill everybody let us pray
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today the iranians the wicked regime of the of this government wants to kill every jew and
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destroy them with an atomic fire but you have raised up president trump how on earth and anyone
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in maggot now how can you deny when people are like well this is bibi's war when that guy's
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been brought to the white house and he's suggesting that the the lord and savior jesus christ and god
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has raised that president trump to go and save all the jews also the persians are not the people
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historically who are trying to destroy the jews it's just not true it's just the opposite in fact
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in fact cyrus the great is lauded in judaism because he released them from the babylonian
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captivity so yeah no the the complete opposite way around yes the jews actually love the persians
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historically yes uh and and literally praise them and it also because the persians were very hands
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off when it came to religion as well they were very um relaxed about it they weren't like the
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assyrians who'd be like no we're capturing your gods and raising your holy places
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so here we are with but the thing is no notice what it is right and this is from the europeans
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perspective the sort of you know secular atheist europeans right what are we seeing we're seeing
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there was even a looting incident in Reading a year or two ago
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before ethnic youth stormed a small Tesco metro,
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Well, that kind of low-level thing happens all the time.
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uh george says you can put two million more officers in clapham and it won't change a thing
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since they lack the courage to arrest blacks honestly this is a massive problem they're not
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allowed as well they don't feel like they have the moral authority to police these that's the
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fundamental issue yeah let's watch it members of the public in the uk seem utterly unable to stop
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watching the news they know that the stories are all bad and that mr trump is a horrible man but
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they feel duty-bound tune in to know what's going on in the world the trick the mainstream media
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plays is in presenting the news with a dramatic
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To be fair, he's not helping himself out, is he?
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to the Canadians. He should have been charming, and he
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can be charming yes he could be like an older brother yeah exactly he could be very charming
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if he wanted to be and instead he took the complete opposite perspective like do all of
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these things after the midterms man like late late you know spend however long when's one of
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the midterms this year aren't they this year in november so you know spend like you know the year
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planning if you want to attack iran i don't care just plan for it do it properly right like i don't
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care if you knock off the iranian regime i have no sympathy for them but just do it properly exactly
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Don't just do it ad hoc, because Israel has goaded you into it.
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The Clay Mills Pump House is running this Sunday and Monday.
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It's all volunteer run, so if you enjoyed my videos before then,
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There'll be a few heritage places running this weekend,
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I'd definitely take him there because he would love
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they have gone into administration unfortunately
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which is pretty cool, it's nice to see everyone
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you know buy stuff i think it's brilliant really really good but yeah the the like for anyone uh
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wondering um at dickot parkway they've got a nice train museum um we're not going to play this one
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samson um for reasons people will understand let's go to the next one g'day lotus eaters i am dropping
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out of gold tier membership i can't really justify the expense and money's going to be a bit tight in
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a couple of months if you know what i mean for my last couple of video comments i'm going to do
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something i said i would never do and i'm going to recommend anime and the first one i'm going
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to recommend is full metal alchemist not the shitty 2005 version i'm talking fma brotherhood
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it is awesome i think you'll really like it and i think it'd be a good thing to break down on a
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youtube video i would agree with that it is very good never heard of it brilliant i've heard of it
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but i've never watched it like an alternate reality where alchemy was a science rather
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than science was the science right so it's quite interesting it's brilliant really well written
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these kids are described the youths described in starship troopers they have not been disciplined
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so they have grown up still being barbarians as that's what everyone is born as carrot and stick
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doesn't work when the carrots are guaranteed and the stick is walled off these kids need a flogging
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and a job and a ticket out of the country uh yeah that's honestly i totally agree um conscription
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yeah conscription does not work as a solution to this the force of enough to deal with
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without having to babysit a bunch of gobby youths with firearms.
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I don't really want these kids having fucking firearms.
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cover for NHS strikes and discipline the young with.
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that they can do that is essentially digging ditches
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funny how the government are not babbling about organizing online and trying to ban tiktok
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well there was no no there has been talk about that actually you know they're saying oh it's
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social media but what are you gonna do ban social media because a bunch of urban youths have uh
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coordinated angry people would be yeah i know it's just mental maybe that's exactly what should
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happen um rory can't even bring himself to give trump agency over his own stupid war instead he
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frames it as trump just accidentally going to war with iran and bombing school children in iran
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and accidentally threatening war crimes on Truth Social.
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stop pretending major geopolitical decisions happen accidentally.
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in the correlation between lack of testosterone
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Well, there is speculation he's in bad health, actually.
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What he's wearing, he's got a massive jacket on.
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But also his posture, he's just like sunken into his own chest.
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I mean, we wish him well at the end of the day,
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but come on, just develop some common sense, please.
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America has an inherent disadvantage on the mean warfare front.
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People are always going to root for David over Goliath.
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letting the small guy clock him across the nose
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Like, sorry, mate, you're going to have to send in 100,000 men.
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20 years later, the ROGC will be willing to get on again.
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but you have to go in and actually root them out
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in a really unpleasant way that's going to cost lots of lives.
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And if you don't do that, you're going to look weak.
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so um military strategists really make need to make more time to understand zealots and extremists
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says arizona desert right it's like yeah and you would have thought they would have learned after
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iraq yes would have thought because i mean like i've i've read a bunch of books about iraq and
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one of the things one of the themes that came and i mean bunch books from like the american
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military written by like you know generals and things one of the themes that came came out was
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they just didn't understand the people there no they just didn't understand and you would think
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that lesson would have been learned they don't have a mental map of the muslim mind they they
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don't understand how it's different yeah no not at all uh anyway right we are out of time there
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folks so go and get your tickets to the live event and uh have a great day and we'll see you tomorrow