The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1395

00:00:00.920 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eason 4, Monday the 13th of April, 2026.

00:00:06.700 I'm joined by Ferris and Harry, and we're all exhausted because of the amazing live show we did this weekend.

00:00:12.640 But if we've got bags under our eyes, bright red, piss holes in the snow, well, you know, it's your fault.

00:00:18.240 I blame you.

00:00:20.040 But anyway, today we're going to be talking about, well, we're going to be talking about the live show, actually,

00:00:23.680 because it's revealed a few interesting things I think are actually really worth talking about.

00:00:27.960 because people tend to like view things on the face of it and actually there's a lot more going

00:00:34.260 on behind and then we're going to be talking about how frage has decided to recruit the boris wave

00:00:39.560 and promise then to deport them so he's going to have to be deporting loads of his own councillors

00:00:44.080 which obviously isn't going to happen and then we're going to be talking about how magra is

00:00:48.300 degenerating into a podcast administration it's a it's a pipeline to a podcast career at this point

00:00:54.420 to be honest.

00:00:55.660 That's what it appears to be.

00:00:56.720 I can't wait for when

00:00:57.460 Trump's out of office

00:00:58.280 and starts his podcast next.

00:01:00.120 Oh.

00:01:01.320 The tales that we're going to hear.

00:01:03.420 Doesn't Trump Jr. have a podcast?

00:01:05.360 I believe so, yes.

00:01:07.740 Anyway,

00:01:09.240 glad that's working out.

00:01:11.120 And after the show

00:01:12.200 at 3 p.m. on listies.com,

00:01:14.600 of course,

00:01:15.180 there is Ferraz's Realpolitik.

00:01:17.340 Is this a live show?

00:01:18.620 This is a live show, yes.

00:01:20.320 Talking about if this is

00:01:21.600 a thousand D chess

00:01:23.020 or maybe not.

00:01:24.420 yeah really underestimating him only a thousand yes two thousand each yes at least yeah anyway

00:01:31.440 right without further ado then let's begin so uh as you were probably aware if you watch our

00:01:36.820 podcast we had our live event in swindon on saturday and it was very fun and we got a lot

00:01:42.700 of media coverage actually as you can see here anti-racism protests planned in swindon town

00:01:48.100 sent it from the local paper the swindon advertiser now that is not a picture of the

00:01:53.900 protest that's a picture of the protest that was against nagel farage the week before

00:01:57.520 um but they they tell us in here and the free trance flag just yeah yeah obviously you know

00:02:03.540 the exact kind of people you'd expect to turn up yes exactly uh but anti-racism protest was set to

00:02:09.620 take place as if this is an advert for it i mean look at this an anti-racism protest set to take

00:02:14.840 place it's like what are you promoting it is this something that you're for the group swindon stand

00:02:21.300 up to racism no one's heard of those has planned a protest opposite the mecca on saturday it's like

00:02:26.420 right okay i would have to pay to take out an advert like this in any other paper if i was like

00:02:31.900 yeah no guys do you know i'm doing something like how do you want to advertising space i mean what

00:02:36.060 are we doing right uh join us and say lotus eat is out of swindon broadcasting from swindon today 0.98

00:02:41.260 by the way uh let's let's show these misogynistic racist homophobic twerps that they aren't welcome 0.95

00:02:47.680 in our town twerps strong words and while we're whilst we're at it let's tell mecca swindon that 0.93

00:02:54.460 we don't want these far right events here by the way the the crew at mecca were incredible

00:02:58.600 absolutely incredibly good uh the most professional uh crew we could have asked for the security top

00:03:04.800 notch and thank you for the police for being involved and making sure that there was no

00:03:07.940 trouble or anything like that uh every everyone did brilliantly everything went smoothly as

00:03:11.740 anything and we couldn't have been happier honestly really really appreciate it uh anyway

00:03:16.140 their venue keeps spreading hate venue itself the venue itself spreads hate okay uh the asbestos or

00:03:25.700 is it like what is it exactly uh katie hopkins is the uh forage and carl benjamin uh they added 1.00

00:03:31.580 let's get out and show these nasty twerps we won't accept their misogyny our community will

00:03:35.940 not be divided swindon is anti-fascist oh okay so that's but what's really interesting about again 0.88

00:03:43.020 like okay that's just the promo this is just pure promo yes for the the protest and it's just pure

00:03:52.280 communist as well i mean stand up to racism for anyone who doesn't know i mean i'll skip to that

00:03:57.400 now actually uh where are we i've got it here somewhere there we go stand up to racism this

00:04:05.080 is from revolutionary communist.org you know how to choose your sources well i chose this one because

00:04:11.840 it's funnier right they're not considered a counter-revolutionary force are they no they're

00:04:17.020 liberal ineffective and reactionary so actually they are counter-revolutionary but they accurately

00:04:22.700 point out that stand up to racism is a front group for the socialist workers party because

00:04:27.020 the socialist workers party only had like a couple of thousand people in it wasn't gaining any

00:04:30.700 traction so they're like right okay what we can do is hide ourselves behind the front stand up to

00:04:34.440 racism and so this becomes just a front for communism which is why of course all of the 0.92

00:04:39.420 protests look exactly as the protests look and the actual communists are like well this is gay 0.96

00:04:44.260 like what a weak limpy you know pathetical effort this is uh and so you know i have to read this 0.96

00:04:51.300 stand-up to racism strips anti-racism of its class content by separating it from the fight

00:04:57.560 against imperialism i agree i agree how dare they not know it's middle class character this is

00:05:03.640 actually a pretty burning it's great it's actually great it's middle class character is reflected in

00:05:10.020 its favorite slogan refugees are welcome here this sentiment flies in the face of reality

00:05:14.720 refugees and asylum seekers are actively under attack from the state they're not welcome in any 1.00

00:05:19.400 sense and it's not just the state but anyway the point being and as they accurately point out this 1.00

00:05:24.640 is just a front group for the socialist workers party which is a wimpy libtard you could say it

00:05:31.420 is yeah apparently one of the attacks is that stand up to racism doesn't recognize zionism as 0.92

00:05:37.040 a form of racism oh yeah oh yeah that's right which okay that's okay yeah yeah no that's a

00:05:42.880 great point that is a great point they're pro-zionist as well uh anyway so for some reason

00:05:48.260 the socialist workers parties gets like a full-page advert in the spending advertiser

00:05:52.160 now were we contacted for comment no for some reason they weren't like all right there's an

00:05:58.480 event here there's an issue here there's a conflict there's a second side between two sides yes well

00:06:04.060 as as the journalists in the local area should we not be addressing both sides when an advertiser

00:06:09.540 with their enormous audience was clearly trying to suck up all the oxygen from us we are the

00:06:14.300 underdogs here we absolutely are the underdogs here that's completely true so anyway we've got

00:06:18.960 a second one lotus eaters found a carl benjamin sparks protest again not a picture of the protest

00:06:24.480 because it's happened in advance of it but uh anyway as you can see here it's pretty much the

00:06:29.520 same thing but now it's calling me far right right no no not even far right right uh calls

00:06:34.820 the load seaters uh hard right we we publish from a hard right perspective i'm not really sure what

00:06:41.220 the difference between far right and hard right is they discovered that far right was sounding

00:06:45.760 increasingly ridiculous or so they maybe or normal and so they had to come up with another

00:06:51.920 uh term i wonder what happens after hard right fails to gain any traction i'll go back to extreme

00:06:58.960 right uh but what happens when that becomes normalized it'll just be right and they'll

00:07:04.820 admit that they were wrong yeah uh anyway so the point being it's basically the same thing but this

00:07:11.020 time properly saying that stand up to racism campaigners get to mecca at regent circus at

00:07:15.380 5 30 today as if this is literally an instruction from the newspaper right remember why this guy's

00:07:22.280 bad oh he was game he gave his ukip oh he's a hard right oh thank god anti-extremism group hope not

00:07:28.600 hate credible source describes us as populist radical right um sorry i think the correct

00:07:33.980 turn is swindon grievance factory actually important distinction yeah but again okay right

00:07:45.060 yeah and we've been closely linked to restore britain which is correct we are of course helping

00:07:50.000 restore britain immensely as much as we can benjamin regrets rejects characterizations

00:07:54.540 of the outlet that's hateful did you well they didn't contact me i mean i mean i would have done

00:08:01.720 if you'd actually contacted me but i didn't get any kind of contact from swindon advertiser why

00:08:08.200 not our emails or email addresses are public you could have contacted us for comment and i could

00:08:13.940 have given you a comment and i would happily have done so i would have pointed out that harry was

00:08:18.360 wrong and he was bound to lose the debate on whether star wars well that's that's that's one

00:08:23.020 of the funny things when you mentioned the debate in which i absolutely thrashed credit credit to

00:08:28.140 luca there as well and thank you both for not really presenting an argument good sports about

00:08:33.220 losing eh uh well you know i mean you're setting the example here hey um one of the funny things

00:08:40.000 was there were basically like there's like a handful of protesters out there and josh told

00:08:44.980 me that before he came along he'd actually looked at the swindon subreddit oh yeah where it was the

00:08:49.680 top thing people saying come to this protest against the lotus eaters at the mecca and even 0.91

00:08:54.700 on reddit of all platforms all of the replies were like guys there's like it's a retard the 0.90

00:09:01.200 biggest part of the show is a debate about star wars i'm not gonna go and protest that i don't 0.86

00:09:07.760 care enough the best thing is that the debate about star wars turned into a good description

00:09:14.740 of generational grievances yeah um i'm not gonna say who won you lost carl but uh i did

00:09:23.540 And Firaz doesn't even like any of them

00:09:26.060 I don't like any of them

00:09:26.920 By the way, we've recorded it all

00:09:28.340 It will be on the website in the near future

00:09:30.360 Once it's been edited

00:09:31.100 So you can judge for yourselves

00:09:33.400 How much I dominated everyone

00:09:34.860 Well, I will just say that

00:09:36.580 As much as I already had the crowd on my side

00:09:39.040 And there were a number of lovely people

00:09:41.200 Everybody who came up to say hello

00:09:42.880 And take a photo was fantastic

00:09:44.660 I've got particular praise and respect

00:09:47.100 For all of those many people

00:09:48.820 Who legitimately came up to me

00:09:50.180 And Luca afterwards

00:09:51.680 And said that we had convinced them

00:09:53.440 on the quality of the films and opened their perspectives to be honest though i wasn't really

00:09:58.240 that much against uh to in my stance on it actually i wasn't like a bow's position because

00:10:04.680 i actually thought you kind of backstabbed bow if we're honest i wasn't backstabbing i was more

00:10:09.120 transcending the petty division to incorporate into a holistic thesis yeah you heel turned on

00:10:15.840 bow and started making our arguments for us things i watched the films and actually i started to see

00:10:20.520 where you were coming from this is not about the star wars anyway it's not what this segment is

00:10:24.620 about yeah right we're getting back to it right look at this in a new statement issued this

00:10:29.580 morning a spokesperson for swindon stand up to racism these guys have got eight followers on

00:10:33.680 twitter right but we don't get a statement to issue to swindon advertiser sorry how how is it

00:10:40.860 that you can write multiple articles about us and not ask us once for comment like look at all of

00:10:46.740 these allegations racist misogynistic homophobic is a real impact on community bro we are the

00:10:52.500 community we all live in swindon and we play pay bloody taxes here apart from those people who have

00:10:57.440 to come in for outside because they don't live in swindon we get recognized by people who live

00:11:01.540 in swindon all the time constantly and it's always really positive because they live in swindon

00:11:06.840 obviously they're going to be on our side yeah i mean what proof is there that any of these swindon

00:11:10.860 stand up to racism people actually live in swindon like what where are these people from and again

00:11:15.900 our community will not be divided right also interestingly just as a little tidbit yesterday

00:11:20.000 when i was leaving swindon i stopped at a corner shop and took a look at the swindon advertiser

00:11:24.880 so that i could see if they'd written any articles that have been published in the print version i

00:11:28.380 wanted a little souvenir couldn't find anything about us but i did find a little column talking

00:11:33.200 about how a man had recently been deported from swindon oh that's good yeah so yeah some good

00:11:38.440 news a silver lining there but again like basically this is the kind of statement they'd put on their

00:11:43.260 own website and swindon advertisers just publishing it without comment without reference to us but

00:11:48.440 that's the second article there was a third article about us we three articles and now we

00:11:54.760 actually get to see some of the actual protesters because this was published the day after shall we

00:11:59.680 have a look folks lotus eaters not wanted not welcome swindon uh we have to i remember i think

00:12:05.840 that's the biggest i can remember some of them i'm not quite too young to look at pictures of them

00:12:09.720 No, no, we're looking.

00:12:11.420 Swindon stands... 0.98

00:12:12.180 So this is just communist front with dorky-looking communists. 0.99

00:12:16.560 Poison in our midst? 0.99

00:12:19.100 I mean, that's a bit weird, isn't it?

00:12:20.740 That's going to be my new band name.

00:12:22.440 That's great.

00:12:23.400 They've even got a logo for us.

00:12:25.580 That's a great point.

00:12:26.280 But I think it describes this guy more than anyone else.

00:12:30.360 I mean, he's clearly poisoned himself, both mentally...

00:12:34.240 Everything they say is a projection, right?

00:12:36.520 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:37.200 and you sort of see the suppose with the what are these bunny ears and the rainbow flag

00:12:44.460 there's a lot going on there there is and i don't want to be mean because all i saw from the

00:12:52.160 protesters is really kind of a we're people with personal problems right and we you know i actually

00:12:59.360 feel pretty bad for sort of people with personal problems who try to expunge them through political

00:13:05.880 activism especially when it's against a debate on star wars this feels a bit misguided right

00:13:11.640 like not one comment on palpatine being a sith lord here which i think actually is pertinent

00:13:17.200 to the subject and to be fair my my segment was advocate for the live podcast was advocacy for

00:13:23.200 unemployment which you'd think would be sympathized right up their road yeah yeah right up the street

00:13:28.480 um anyway they have a protest a picture of the entire protest um this is it uh as one comment

00:13:34.720 on reddit i saw noted there were probably more speakers on stage than protesters um not quite

00:13:40.200 true but nearly uh anyway so there they are the protesters like i said we got a third article

00:13:46.480 uh again just praising crowds crowds joined forces for an anti-racism protest in town center last

00:13:52.880 night uh the campaigners were there protesters stood outside the central library with banners

00:13:57.620 and signs saying not welcome not welcome load seaters not welcome in swindon and at the bottom

00:14:03.300 riss williams the chair of stand up to racism swindon told the advert we want to show that

00:14:08.720 swindon is an anti-racist town i truly believe there is an anti-racist majority in society

00:14:14.120 it's like have you looked at the polling recently i mean turnout suggests otherwise

00:14:20.920 absolutely but also like every other piece of evidence that exists suggests otherwise

00:14:25.760 um but again so the communists get all of their stuff just printed front and center

00:14:31.380 the advert don't even contact us right they call us racist they call us far right they call us

00:14:35.920 islamophobia hard right or whatever it is and they publish all of these communist statements

00:14:39.600 right how is that in any way substantively different to searchlight who also published

00:14:44.720 an article on it right oh calling us racist far right and you know a couple of the protesters

00:14:50.260 but it's all the same thing around 30 protesters no they were not around 30 protesters mobilized

00:14:56.040 by stand up to racism 12 15 if that yeah something like that but um but you can see this whole thing

00:15:02.900 is just like oh look here are the bad people this is the bad people hard right positions it's all

00:15:09.420 the same rhetoric and language so sorry how exactly is that different the swindon advertiser

00:15:15.840 different to the radical left-wing publications like searchlight magazine it's all exactly the

00:15:21.240 same and uh this is quite fun as well the organizers claim the event attracted a thousand

00:15:27.280 attendees well we're the organizers and we didn't claim that because we knew what the capacity of

00:15:32.980 the venue was which was 700 people so we wouldn't have claimed a thousand uh and they have to sell

00:15:39.520 the tickets we can't sell 300 extra tickets to people then tell them fight over the chairs

00:15:44.100 exactly and the actual crown was around 400 no we know we know precisely how many the actual crowd

00:15:49.420 was because we sold the tickets sorry why have they just made up a claim that we never said

00:15:54.220 i don't know but who knows and and the hall is clearly half empty well we'll we'll get some

00:15:59.420 pictures of the hall and you can make that judgment for yourself but what the counter

00:16:02.700 protest liked in scale it made up for an impact really that's some cope right there is some major

00:16:10.300 cope isn't it just it's it's it's amazing to encounter a demonstration to little decedars

00:16:16.300 they looked dead to me guys they like there was no life behind behind their eyes the only thing

00:16:24.620 that i really got from them was the the one who also attended the restore britain one you said

00:16:29.820 about uh shouted fascist at me as i walked past but well that's new oh well he's never shouted

00:16:36.380 that anymore anyway public disgust public members of the public stopped to ask what was happening

00:16:41.820 expressed disgust that the event was being hosted in short it was a reminder of something that

00:16:47.000 loads to see to subscriber metrics tend to obscure online reach is not the same as public acceptance

00:16:51.860 and swindon is not their town they said crying at their keyboards because everything went great for

00:16:57.940 us right so going back to the swindon advertiser very quickly um it's very easy to think oh swindon

00:17:03.120 advertiser is a local paper right um no actually it's not really a local paper it used to be a

00:17:08.760 local paper but the swindon advertiser was actually bought out by newsquest which is itself

00:17:13.480 actually quite a large company anyway with a net income of 114 million pounds but that itself is

00:17:20.860 owned by something that was called gannett media which is now usa today corporation which i'd for

00:17:27.560 some reason that doesn't show us a thing but it's something like three billion in revenue usa today

00:17:31.640 makes so uh the swindon advertiser is not just some little local you know podunk you know well

00:17:38.880 you know well-meaning uh local paper no no it's it's a part of the corporatocracy that has hollowed

00:17:46.560 out all of our institutions and is now wearing them like a skin suit like for example here's

00:17:50.460 the old swindon advertiser building and as you can see from it it's let me look at it it's just 0.99

00:17:55.280 completely fallen apart because they're not there anymore right it used to be the swindon

00:18:00.480 advertisers building when it was founded in like the 19th century and it was uh quite anti-government

00:18:05.500 actually back in the day it was actually a lot more along our lines of thinking and now it's all

00:18:11.020 just hollowed out and worn as a skin suit by some international mega corporation that's okay brilliant

00:18:17.080 those guys are supporting the radical communists and sound like searchlight magazine so okay great

00:18:23.840 that's brilliant i mean we can see how much it represents the people of swindon by just looking

00:18:29.000 at the most liked replies on the articles it's like hate and division seem to come from the left

00:18:33.460 these days the word it seems to me that since diversity has been thrust down all our throats

00:18:38.900 we've never been more divided as a country the irony i thought it was going to be white people 0.96

00:18:43.660 rightfully protesting peacefully i don't know what racism these cretins are referring to but 0.87

00:18:47.840 it's 2026 and it's never been more financially beneficial to benefit with benefits on benefits 0.66

00:18:52.480 simply afforded to you by being any color other than white and this was commented by muhammad

00:18:58.000 patel apparently i mean he's not wrong though right like where where are the comments in their

00:19:05.420 favor yeah if we just go to the most liked ones on the next article mecca is simply a venue what

00:19:10.720 are you doing uh carl benjamin states facts and in a day where people who push socialist agendas

00:19:15.200 and are paid to demonstrate push the silly narratives backed by regime called the labor

00:19:18.340 party another like-minded ngos what can we expect yes well the swindon advertiser is just a part of

00:19:23.560 that and again just like all over the place on all of these articles um this is just trivial

00:19:31.520 totally trivial the word crowds has got some power lifting to do here hasn't it

00:19:36.180 see what bigger crowd of the local shop crowds i've seen more people waiting for the bus

00:19:40.500 uh good grief another report on this like the only thing well the only thing wrong with being

00:19:47.380 talked about is not being talked about it's like yes exactly and so all i'm saying is the people

00:19:52.500 swindon oh we've we've even got a new subscriber i would assume through this i hadn't even heard

00:19:57.220 of carl benjamin before these articles about the protest well if you're watching now hello

00:20:03.220 thank you and this is on wilson 999's uh facebook page where we're called controversial whatnot

00:20:11.700 and uh the protesters were nearly outnumbered by police officers it's true yeah refugees welcome i

00:20:18.180 hope someone was reaching asking each processor to have space and put one in the home i'd never

00:20:22.020 even heard of them. No picture of the protesters because I know about four of them. So yeah,

00:20:27.460 as you can see, not exactly terribly convincing. Anyway, so yeah, this was planned out by Swindon

00:20:35.860 Stand Up to Racism. They had a very, very small outing and our guys decided to just have a bit of

00:20:43.060 fun watching them being like hmm seems a little bit sad to be honest i mean and they seem like

00:20:52.340 absolutely lovely people as well here's uh one of them oh yeah this is the guy you wait until the

00:20:57.380 your building so i mean about i feel these are just people with personal problems yeah right

00:21:13.420 and i i genuinely feel bad for them i genuinely feel like these are the sorts of people who

00:21:19.460 actually need a bit of professional help because you're externalizing all of your personal problems

00:21:24.100 onto what you think is a giant political battle that's going on but actually you're just a person

00:21:31.540 with problems i think that's what's actually happening here honestly i feel quite bad for him

00:21:35.340 i genuinely do um here's his angler just having a protest against us

00:21:40.400 Come on, guys.

00:21:41.240 Hi, guys.

00:21:42.640 Hi.

00:21:44.680 Yes.

00:21:46.720 I am extremely proud for standing over my country

00:21:50.360 and the ethnic replacement of my people. 1.00

00:21:52.720 Well, you have to because you were thrown out of Thailand.

00:21:55.500 Ancestral homeland.

00:21:58.700 He's a patriot cop.

00:22:01.220 Cop Benjamin's a patriot. 0.95

00:22:03.340 He's a misogynist.

00:22:04.620 No, he's a... 0.94

00:22:05.160 I was so serious.

00:22:09.480 Are those things mutually exclusive?

00:22:11.360 Can we notice the obligatory? 0.99

00:22:14.300 Can we notice the obligatory Palestinian kafir? 0.98

00:22:17.060 Yeah.

00:22:17.260 I mean, but supposedly, according to the revolutionaries,

00:22:24.700 they're not sufficiently pro-Palestine.

00:22:27.580 Well, I mean, he probably hasn't even condemned Zionism.

00:22:31.800 But anyway, like I said, all of our favorite online posters turned up.

00:22:36.020 there was a huge, huge number of our good friends who turned up

00:22:40.340 and they, I think, accurately called it.

00:22:43.040 We did well, they didn't.

00:22:45.340 And, yeah, how do we lose these people so long?

00:22:47.620 Well, institutional backing is the answer.

00:22:50.260 Here's a bit of a video of the crowd lining up to go into the event

00:22:56.780 compared to the handful of protesters on the other side.

00:23:00.300 So just saying, Swindon Adver,

00:23:02.860 if it was this easy for me to find all of this,

00:23:05.480 what's your excuse and yeah we were like just had a great time like it seems everyone had a lot of

00:23:13.140 fun the positivity was overwhelming it was amazing like you know these were people there because of

00:23:21.220 love of country they clearly love us which was genuinely moving um it was just great really good

00:23:28.240 people and a lot of fun it was i had a great time and that's the point all of our people were just

00:23:33.560 very normal you know just normal people who are just people who work and get on with their lives 1.00

00:23:38.240 and who want the best for the country for their children um and there weren't any spurgs in the 1.00

00:23:42.800 crowd no no i didn't know everyone was really nice well made up polite um well behaved well 1.00

00:23:49.520 behaved it was great i'm just saying though it doesn't look half empty to me right that looks

00:23:56.140 pretty full to me i mean when i when i got up on the stage and there was just a roar from the crowd

00:24:00.340 it was just like okay that that was pretty mad and this is another photo i took where you can

00:24:04.620 just see it goes like right to the back you know and it's like sorry i don't know what to tell you

00:24:10.040 it felt really packed out we know exactly how many tickets we sold and it just felt completely

00:24:15.740 packed out and uh the reviews are in as far as i can tell everyone who went had a great time

00:24:21.000 so thank you so much everyone for making this such a huge success it's by far the largest live event

00:24:26.500 we've done and thank you to mecca as well for just not bowing to this kind of trivial protesting

00:24:33.540 nonsense we're normal and professional completely which now has become a very high standard

00:24:38.200 but they did a great job oh yeah but it is no longer normal to expect people to be normal which

00:24:45.420 is you know that's the problem but what was nice about this is this was advertised on their website

00:24:50.740 so of course any of the lefty types could find it and yet still um we carried on and they were

00:24:57.400 like no no this is all fine like this isn't you know because they they host other people who are

00:25:01.160 way more controversial than us instantly uh and so i kind of feel that we're getting past that era

00:25:06.200 of cancellation now it's like no actually these people are kind of small annoying and people with

00:25:11.760 personal problems who are trying to get us cancelled we are actually completely normal

00:25:15.260 yep actually thoroughly mainstream i mean this was a huge venue uh and and we packed it out so

00:25:22.040 we're very happy with how it went i hope you guys had a really good time at the show

00:25:25.780 we will for any paid subscribers on the website make sure that the videos will be out of the

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00:25:39.540 um right would i read a couple comments yeah yeah base tape says i'm really upset i couldn't

00:25:46.040 make it down this time if i'd known there'd be a protest i'd immediately joined in

00:25:49.100 tried to get myself one of those placards as a souvenir

00:25:51.260 the thing is they weren't even aggressive they were just kind of sad uh far right is

00:25:57.540 headstrong and cocksure hard right is headstrong headshaw and cockstrong

00:26:01.340 okay i do wonder what was going through the protesters heads when they saw what

00:26:07.340 pitiful turnout they had versus the crowds coming into the venue if they just realized how futile

00:26:13.160 it was yeah i mean we had to delay the start by 15 minutes because it was taking longer than

00:26:18.180 expected to get the crowd in um uh and uh protesting against the prequels right at the

00:26:23.500 lotus seaters yes exactly uh currently waiting to embark on a plane back to quebecistan live

00:26:28.920 event was amazing we could be the sith right

00:26:31.200 yes that's that's not bad actually thanks for the food and advice for us harry i'll pray for

00:26:39.060 you not to get triplet daughters god bless you all uh anyway we'll leave there so let's carry on

00:26:43.660 all right um so reform has launched a campaign to stop the boris wave and the optics here exactly

00:26:56.400 as martin domini points out are quite strong waves of migrants coming in with boris johnson

00:27:02.360 and kemi uh welcoming them and uh you know they they made a very strong case that essentially

00:27:10.260 the boris wave is going to cost every british family 20 000 pounds notice that that's the

00:27:17.340 concern though right that's the concern in fairness in the event that they did which i

00:27:22.660 tried to listen to they did mention the impact on british culture and how this has transformed

00:27:28.540 british society but the headline issue is the 20 000 pounds per family right which is obviously

00:27:33.940 a disgustingly high bill for anybody to pay but and i i have to ask a question is nigel factoring

00:27:41.380 in members of the boris wave into what he classifies as a british family as well is the

00:27:47.700 problem going to be that the boris wave is going to cost members of the boris wave 20 000 pounds

00:27:53.160 i honestly didn't even look into that i i didn't look into that i should and i will

00:27:58.240 um to be fair for us probably hasn't done the sums on it we'll see we'll see and there were

00:28:04.660 commitments there to end indefinite leave to remain uh stop benefits foreigners and reverse

00:28:10.840 the boris wave how are you going to fill the council seats come the may elections then mr

00:28:14.820 for harsh that's kind of the the the you know part of the issue uh so zia came up and said that

00:28:23.320 you know uh it has permanently changed the culture of britain forever is on course to bankrupt the

00:28:28.420 country all against the wishes of the british people again sorry sir i i just hate this kind

00:28:34.020 of externalization of it it's changed the culture of britain as if the culture of britain exists

00:28:37.820 separately to the people and it's something precious we have to protect but the people

00:28:40.960 themselves not really our problem yes it's the it's the impact it's had on us the people that

00:28:45.920 is the problem right the culture of britain changes all the time from century to century

00:28:50.380 it's not a problem when the culture changes yes what is a problem is if the people change and we

00:28:55.380 lose our country this this is this this kind of language is a slippery slight of hand to avoid

00:29:03.640 demographic issues yes fundamental issue is the demo the demography of it and this is what they

00:29:10.660 are dancing around because reform a weak source and everyone knows it well i think this is very

00:29:16.220 much going to be the theme of it um here is reform having nigel farrow speak about this let's let's

00:29:23.680 listen to him for a second please there is still something we can do about this boris wave but if

00:29:30.540 over a couple of million people get indefinite leave to remain over the course of the next 18

00:29:36.160 months we will be putting around our necks an economic millstone that frankly will be catastrophic 1.00

00:29:43.060 just an economic problem it's just an economic problem just because foreign is going to inherit

00:29:47.780 your country think of the economy what about the gdp so i hate i hate this also similarly again

00:29:54.260 nigel farage is not really the one to be complaining about this given that as i've

00:29:59.100 pointed out you can go back 10 years and find his statements about brexit saying that it would allow

00:30:04.040 for a greater variety of immigrants to come into the country.

00:30:07.440 We want those Commonwealth Indians.

00:30:08.920 Exactly, which is the same argument that was being used by Boris

00:30:13.560 and a number of the establishment Brexiteers

00:30:16.580 to promote it in the first place.

00:30:18.620 Frankly, basically their concern was that the pulls weren't cheap enough, 0.64

00:30:22.380 it's time to bring in the Pakistanis and the Nigerians and the Indians. 0.99

00:30:24.700 That was basically it. 0.99

00:30:25.860 Not even basically.

00:30:26.560 He literally said we can reduce the number of EU migrants

00:30:30.440 and lean heavily on the Commonwealth.

00:30:32.040 And that's exactly what Boris did.

00:30:33.620 so what is farage's actual complaint about the boris wave because eu migration goes down

00:30:38.220 non-eu migration skyrockets and that's just what you said it's like an incrementalist thing what

00:30:45.200 he's worried about what he's concerned about is that the numbers of the boris wave went up too

00:30:50.200 fast that's the only part of it that he's worried about the character of the migration itself is

00:30:56.240 exactly what he was asking for um and and i was going to make another point but it has slipped

00:31:01.620 my mind it's fine because connor's got a great point here i mean we've seen obviously we've seen

00:31:07.740 reform promoting their here are our candidates and it's just all foreigners and literal boris

00:31:14.800 waivers i mean here's you know let's let's look at this to sort of yeah reinforce your point

00:31:22.360 mr sharia muhammad sharia muhammad sharia the guy from the isle of white i looked up the i looked

00:31:30.880 at the demographics in the isle of white in the 2021 census it's 97 white english but also 0.1

00:31:37.720 percent pakistani he must be the only pakistani man on the isle of and he's literally called

00:31:42.860 mr sharia muhammad thank you mr sharia is my dad

00:31:46.160 but Nigel Farage must have hunted him down look I've got the census I know there's a

00:31:53.740 Pakistani man on the Isle of Wight somewhere find him and and to and for the isle that's

00:31:57.740 literally called white but it's just incredible I mean like let's just look at this because

00:32:04.480 obviously new candidate announcement

00:32:06.840 Yaseen Sadiq, how represented do you feel folks?

00:32:14.120 We will find one in a minute.

00:32:18.340 Maybe another minute.

00:32:22.620 Oh, there's Nigel. 1.00

00:32:27.460 Fuck's sake. 1.00

00:32:33.040 Oh look, Darius Hutchinson. 1.00

00:32:35.920 Fuck me, what do you know? 1.00

00:32:38.760 Jeff Halifax. 1.00

00:32:39.560 Jeff Halifax.

00:32:40.820 Joseph Pearce.

00:32:45.180 Yeah, well, that seems to be about it.

00:32:49.680 Well, the interesting thing, again,

00:32:51.560 given that it's on the Isle of Wight

00:32:52.840 and you just mentioned the demographics,

00:32:54.760 it gives away the lie

00:32:57.620 that you are only choosing these particular candidates

00:33:00.240 to appeal to the demographics that are already there, right?

00:33:03.500 This is just intentional.

00:33:06.500 And also, it's also going to be an act of desperation,

00:33:10.100 because I was watching Faraj campaigning,

00:33:11.940 and he would constantly say,

00:33:14.240 we've got a stall at the back.

00:33:15.180 If you'd like to volunteer to be a candidate for us,

00:33:17.420 go and sign up, and you can feel the desperation.

00:33:19.460 And then the media's been like,

00:33:20.720 you've been cold-calling people to be candidates,

00:33:23.220 and some of them are like Labour councillors and things.

00:33:25.880 Is everything going okay?

00:33:26.960 And Faraj's like, no, no, no, everything's fine.

00:33:28.460 But you can feel this kind of sense of desperation.

00:33:30.540 It's like, okay, we'll just break out whoever wants to apply.

00:33:33.500 even if they are literally foreign nationals like they had a nigerian guy who's a foreign national

00:33:38.380 they had the guy in uh the northeast who'd set up that indian only football club

00:33:43.560 adrian rory or something like that uh literally an indian national um and then yeah like so you

00:33:49.540 got the boris wave bangladeshi guy who's here on student visa it's like how is it possible

00:33:54.940 that someone on a limited visa can become your counselor and this is where it becomes troublesome

00:34:00.420 Because when you have Mr. Clive Furness, who's now their candidate for mayor in Newham, saying anyone who is here legally is a British citizen and should be entitled to the full support of the British state as his defection to reform is declared.

00:34:16.520 Yeah. Yeah.

00:34:17.520 And so when you say that you want to.

00:34:19.240 He's former Labour, wasn't he?

00:34:20.180 Yeah, exactly. And so when you want to say you say you want to reverse the Boris wave, ILR isn't enough.

00:34:26.860 By what metric?

00:34:27.760 Because as Nigel acknowledges in the press conference, they're going to become citizens.

00:34:36.560 Yes.

00:34:37.440 And as they become citizens, the question was asked to him by a member of the press, I think from GB News, are you going to denaturalize them?

00:34:46.140 And basically he waffled away from saying yes, didn't say that he would do it, wouldn't say no either,

00:34:54.180 just turned around and tried to sort of waste

00:34:57.180 as much time as possible,

00:34:58.680 and then Zia Yusuf had to step in and say,

00:35:01.180 we will consider all options

00:35:02.980 without saying that, yes, we will denaturalize anybody. 0.94

00:35:06.460 Why would you not just say yes?

00:35:08.320 Exactly.

00:35:09.020 And if the Boris wave is illegitimate,

00:35:12.940 firstly, why would you run them as candidates?

00:35:16.300 That's a great question.

00:35:17.420 The question that demands answers.

00:35:19.420 Firstly.

00:35:19.660 secondly if their acquisition of a visa was illegitimate by definition their acquisition

00:35:27.800 of citizenship would also be illegitimate so why wouldn't you say yes we would denaturalize them

00:35:33.640 i can't explain it i literally cannot explain it i can only assume that reform are so hard up

00:35:42.640 for candidates that they're like well we need a body and a seat we need the paper candidates right

00:35:47.880 It looks like it, apparently.

00:35:50.660 They're one of the most popular parties in the country.

00:35:53.960 They were polling incredibly well last year.

00:35:57.380 Why would they not have a glut of patriots coming forward to stand for them?

00:36:02.720 That's a great question.

00:36:03.860 If you're going to vet these candidates by MI5,

00:36:08.380 there will be some issues that have been said online

00:36:12.120 or is something that is a bit untowards as far as MI5 is concerned.

00:36:16.700 Have MI5.

00:36:17.360 And if you're going to vet them by hope not hate, as was done the previous time, it won't work.

00:36:22.540 Here's my new question then.

00:36:23.920 Have the MI5 and hope not hate literally given reform a diversity quota for their candidates?

00:36:31.380 That never even occurred to me that they might have done.

00:36:36.240 But also, we remember that Nigel Farage kicked all of the patriots out of his party.

00:36:41.180 Yes, like Bo and Dan.

00:36:42.400 Yeah, but not just Bo and Dan.

00:36:44.200 like loads of folks who either got kicked out or left because they realized we are not going to be

00:36:49.740 supported by the leadership you know when when hope not hate are like oh we don't like that guy

00:36:53.640 because he was like maybe immigration is a bit too high folks Nigel Farage got oh god no no he's out

00:36:57.860 he's out he's out and Nigel Farage like fired some guy at a press conference now I'm sure that what

00:37:02.220 the guy had got fired for was actually legitimate I can't remember what it was now but that's not

00:37:05.840 the time or place to do it you know say we're in conducting an internal review and we'll publish

00:37:10.260 our findings and take action accordingly but you don't just bow to the press but he was just

00:37:14.620 instantly like oh yeah that guy's gone and it's like you are just there you're literally just 0.91

00:37:19.560 their puppet and they make you dance to your their tune because you were cowardly and spineless and

00:37:24.840 this is why i think they have trouble finding candidates i think a lot of people are looking

00:37:28.700 at this going they'll just sell me out they'll just they'll just stiff me and i'll be left

00:37:32.860 twisting in the wind and i'll just be you know there's no point there's no point i mean if you

00:37:37.500 if you're a decent enough candidate with a clean record uh in terms of what hope not hate and mi5

00:37:44.740 would define as a clean record you don't have a reason to take the risk no at all unless you're

00:37:50.580 sure you're going to be actually properly supported yes if the party's not going to back

00:37:54.980 you why would i bother exactly and so if your views are in any way potentially controversial

00:38:01.020 you don't have any incentive to run for a party that will throw you under the bus at the first

00:38:07.020 time of trouble, because when you're thrown under the bus, you're going to lose your job,

00:38:11.840 you're going to lose your income, your mortgage will become unaffordable, there will be all kinds

00:38:16.920 of social consequences. So you're only going to be willing to take the risk for a party that you

00:38:22.340 believe is committed to you. And reform cannot in any way demonstrate that it is committed to anything

00:38:29.060 other than getting Nigel Farage into number 10. That's their only commitment at this stage.

00:38:34.380 and so you can see why there would be a shortage of candidates and you could see why you end up

00:38:42.940 with boris wave candidates while saying you're going to reverse the boris wave so you're going

00:38:49.000 to have him what serve as a counselor for two years and then deport him are you going to do

00:38:53.560 that or not he's going to deport himself he's going to be the man who's gladly ushering them

00:38:58.400 back onto the boat and then once they're all on he'll turn around say his goodbyes and step on

00:39:03.640 himself he'll salute that's supposed to be me hold on a second that's my job he stole your job 0.67

00:39:09.800 foreigners are taking my job as a foreigner unacceptable uh i mean it's just it's deeply

00:39:19.140 unserious because when he's challenged on are you actually going to do something about this 1.00

00:39:24.680 that is substantial the answer is no and the question was formulated in a pretty clever way

00:39:30.380 i'm sorry i don't know how to clip things so i didn't clip it but it was formulated are as once

00:39:35.920 these people become citizens do you accept that there is nothing you can do about this and he

00:39:40.400 literally says well anyone who's illegally is a british citizen and is entitled to the full support

00:39:44.740 of the british state as the mercy is like what are we doing here exactly but like what if what

00:39:49.540 if the guy at the home office comes in drunk or he's rubber stamping and his hand slips on the

00:39:54.360 wrong one this guy's just sort of like well nothing we can do about it now it it's it's 0.61

00:39:59.960 genuinely insane yeah especially given that i think a few days ago somebody a white british

00:40:06.260 person was denaturalized for living in russia that's right he'd marry sorry i just want to get

00:40:11.440 that picture back where was that picture first one so yeah just like this being the reform banner

00:40:17.200 and it's so incongruous

00:40:20.420 with what they're actually doing.

00:40:21.920 Yes.

00:40:22.920 It's so incongruous.

00:40:24.880 And Nigel Farage will get called a racist

00:40:26.780 for this banner when he's on LBC next

00:40:29.000 or something like that.

00:40:29.400 So you might as well just take it all the way.

00:40:31.700 Yeah, why are you going half measures?

00:40:34.220 It is, once again,

00:40:36.520 the right sort of skinny dipping into the Rubicon

00:40:39.260 without actually committing.

00:40:41.120 If you're going to do this, you have to commit.

00:40:43.600 If you're not committed, don't do it.

00:40:45.060 that's always the problem and uh sorry they've launched a website called stop the boris wave

00:40:52.180 dot com yeah but that means i have to vote for someone other than you

00:40:56.660 if i want to stop the boris wave maybe farage is the one playing 1000 d check

00:41:03.260 i don't know apparently everybody is these days i don't get it um but reform also launched a

00:41:11.720 policy where they will investigate the boris wave and how it happened is this after they win yes

00:41:17.460 okay because at some point he's announced prior inquiries before that didn't happen and the

00:41:23.160 inquiry will look into how the decisions were made and so on and so forth um having boris testify

00:41:29.760 under oath also presumably robert jendrick and suela braverman who which he confirmed yeah and

00:41:36.380 then when asked about you know that's a great wave swella and and and generic uh riff the view

00:41:43.580 from faraj was well at least they had resigned or been kicked out in protest and that they had

00:41:49.260 tried to change it from within they literally overseen it they had not only overseen generic

00:41:55.580 in particular they were writing articles like robert generic was about how welcoming afghan

00:42:01.780 refugees is a national project yeah beau was talking about this on his morning show this

00:42:05.440 morning i'm getting ready getting you know getting sharon you know truing my beard and stuff i was

00:42:09.500 just getting angry about it because beau was just like i don't believe this this should not

00:42:13.580 yeah no i both completely correct on this yep yep yep yep and so you see this weirdness in the

00:42:23.080 whole announcement that suggests that it's really unserious yeah it's just totally and completely

00:42:30.220 unserious and then you see this article here from richard tice about what had happened and he says

00:42:39.080 can i just take this take this quote with no vetting procedure in place we may be letting

00:42:45.760 in sex offenders potential terrorists and criminals but we won't deport them into the

00:42:49.380 reform party as candidates like what are we talking about like if your your complaint is

00:42:54.160 the boris wave would just let in with no vetting you're like yes but they can stand as candidates

00:42:58.020 for reform what are you doing as long as i even hope not how you say so i guess you know like 0.99

00:43:04.740 mental absolutely okay so you're a rapist murderer that's a pretty spicy tweet on israel though so 0.95

00:43:13.200 gonna have to turn you down so let's let's read what tice said because it sort of shows the 0.98

00:43:19.200 incongruence of having braverman and and and janrick there he says keep in mind of the thousands

00:43:26.420 who have already entered the country,

00:43:27.760 referring to the Afghans 1.00

00:43:29.060 and the fact that they cost

00:43:30.280 seven billion pounds

00:43:31.720 and this wasn't allowed to be discussed,

00:43:35.100 they have completely pulled the wool

00:43:37.160 over our eyes

00:43:38.080 and willfully lied to the British public.

00:43:39.580 That would be Braverman and Jenrick.

00:43:42.300 Now, after nearly two years of secrecy

00:43:44.580 enforced by the conservatives,

00:43:45.760 this scandal has been exposed.

00:43:47.460 The shocking plan is already in effect 1.00

00:43:49.340 with 18,500 Afghans 1.00

00:43:51.040 having already arrived.

00:43:52.720 With no vetting,

00:43:53.860 we are letting in sex offenders,

00:43:55.760 terrorists and criminals we is correct though yes your party with robert jenrich did this

00:44:00.860 it has been revealed that uh several afghans on this list had previously been rejected for

00:44:06.340 for violent or sexual assaults so you won't denaturalize them and danny krueger in fact

00:44:12.280 says that their children are just as british as i am they're going to inherit alfred the great yeah

00:44:16.360 but just it was just a massive failure exactly this is a massive failure of the british state

00:44:21.900 a huge threat to our national security just another example of the tories betraying the

00:44:26.760 trust of the british public even from the sidelines this country is still suffering

00:44:30.900 from years of tory leadership it really does beg the question of treason just i'm just staggering

00:44:37.980 it's like yeah robert and robert jenner is just like what i mean yeah that was me who literally

00:44:44.100 did all of those things you're condemning but now i'm your shadow home chancellor a chancellor of

00:44:49.100 the exchequer like he's literally got a senior role in the party this is mental it just feels

00:44:55.940 like vague abstract gesturing like there's that bit i think it's in father ted where some guy's

00:45:01.540 protesting something and he doesn't know what and his sign just says down with this sort of thing

00:45:05.980 that's what it feels like yeah it's just as i don't know i feel like it'd be like me turning

00:45:11.780 to nick dixon and being like yeah god anyone who's ever been on gb news is obviously evil

00:45:15.980 and we need to purge them completely.

00:45:17.660 Don't you agree, Nick?

00:45:18.400 And Nick being like, yeah, of course.

00:45:19.760 You know, like...

00:45:20.540 And I hate comedians too, Nick.

00:45:22.980 I know that they were.

00:45:23.740 Actually, he probably would agree.

00:45:24.820 Yeah, maybe, yeah.

00:45:25.820 But the...

00:45:26.540 I just can't get over it.

00:45:28.320 As if we're supposed to just forget

00:45:30.180 that Sweller and Jemrick

00:45:31.200 are a part of Boris Wave administration.

00:45:34.340 They're saying that they will be investigated too.

00:45:37.180 But then Rupert Lowe, you know, as always...

00:45:40.500 The criminals are doing the investigation.

00:45:42.540 He comes up with the goods.

00:45:43.960 and he mentions things like the baby stockholm contract one and a half billion for providing

00:45:50.400 accommodation and that was braveman's home secretary and generic as the immigration

00:45:54.540 minister exactly braveman's title was on the contract exactly and what they were being

00:46:04.040 provided with was twice a week cleanings oh changing their bedsheets every week 24 7 concierge

00:46:12.840 service, telephones, Wi-Fi, training to learn how to use search on their phones and things

00:46:20.160 like that, full access to the towns that they were being in, that they were being housed

00:46:25.700 in.

00:46:25.960 A program of organized recreational activities. I'm going to pay for all that myself.

00:46:33.580 And so you could say that we disagreed with the policy, if you're Braverman and Jenrick,

00:46:39.380 but then you had at least the authority to not make this so bloody generous and attractive

00:46:46.960 to make people who were already in british think about tossing their passports and pretending to

00:46:53.140 be immigrants man i am going to break into this country myself full wi-fi coverage is required

00:46:58.000 the bank of mobile phones available 24 7 they need to be like just you can finally get some

00:47:03.940 guidance and support transport requests will be taken at short notice the transport must be

00:47:10.000 punctual the trains aren't punctual yeah so my favorite one of my favorite things about this

00:47:16.440 regarding the suella brevman's involvement in it was there was a that speech that she gave a few

00:47:21.220 years ago after she already uh left the position yeah where she tried to call it out and say that

00:47:26.860 the civil service was out of control they were doing all of this and her whole point was essentially

00:47:31.880 that whilst she was in the position to do something about it she couldn't because she was stonewalled

00:47:36.820 at every stage by the civil service and by rishi sunak and and by rishi sunak yourself fired

00:47:42.160 and then the the point of it seemed to be in the end was that next time i'm up for an election

00:47:48.880 vote for me i'm useless but i can't do anything rupert here they were the ministers they were

00:47:56.540 responsible that's how it works this is what ministerial responsibility means right yes that's

00:48:01.560 literally what the job is meant to be and so if you approve these kinds of contracts

00:48:07.080 knowing full well how attractive they would be that they would that they would be used

00:48:12.320 by the the the smugglers to attract more clients to bring into britain means attracting me how

00:48:19.880 much does it cost to be a smuggler to pay the smuggler to get me across a few thousand pounds

00:48:23.880 i could do that that's a lot cheaper than all the stuff there i'd have to pay for 0.60

00:48:26.780 so this this is incoherent it'd be stockholm's like a bloody cruise for boomers and with no 0.54

00:48:36.100 plan to actually deport or denaturalize yeah you're saying that you're going to be stuck 0.99

00:48:42.240 paying for them forever if if they're going to cost you 20 000 pounds per household

00:48:46.240 but you're not going to denaturalize any of them you're stuck paying them forever

00:48:52.320 and their children

00:48:54.020 and their children's children.

00:48:56.260 Do you think this is more

00:48:56.960 just another patronage system?

00:48:58.620 It's like, yeah, we're going to pay,

00:48:59.740 like Sweller and Jemrick

00:49:00.720 are going to pay to get you in,

00:49:02.220 pay to keep you up,

00:49:03.160 and then we're going to have you

00:49:04.300 join the Reform Party

00:49:05.860 and make you a councillor

00:49:08.060 so that you can continue paying

00:49:09.580 and the circle completes.

00:49:11.140 Because, I mean,

00:49:11.700 it looks like a foreign patronage network.

00:49:15.340 A little bit.

00:49:16.160 I mean, a little bit.

00:49:16.960 In the deeps of Howie's Money Connections,

00:49:18.820 there are all kinds of questions to be asked.

00:49:20.960 Is it just a little bit?

00:49:22.320 are they all related as cousins to zia yusuf and nadim zahawi or swell a braveman and but the point

00:49:29.880 being is you know it's like no you guys it's literally like labor do with the foreigners

00:49:33.700 right it's like we bring you in we give you all these benefits and then you vote for us 0.51

00:49:37.060 and reform seemed to be following that pattern yeah and you know gorton and denton just showed

00:49:42.020 how successful it'll be for reform brilliantly yeah so nigel get serious please this is not

00:49:50.940 serious but i don't expect it to get serious there's a great comment here farage has put

00:49:54.960 the boris way but for elections he knows they won't defect or restore yeah

00:49:58.240 also said are we taking bets on farage jumping from reform once he sees how terrible they're

00:50:04.860 going to do in the election due to his own actions now we don't know how terrible that

00:50:09.700 they're going to do but if they do terrible i wouldn't be shocked if he does just because 0.97

00:50:14.140 nigel kind of has this attitude where he's like as soon as something the tide turns he leaves so 0.87

00:50:18.960 he won't be involved with directly involved with the destruction of it i've been saying this for a

00:50:23.580 while i reckon when when reform begins polling around 17 18 again frage will just quit i think

00:50:29.680 he genuinely quit because you know he'll be below the greens and probably below the tories and

00:50:34.200 labor again and i think he'll just quit yeah maybe maybe oh let's see she put out there they're

00:50:42.800 thinking of taking the live show on tour then spread the rumor to local rags by non-sources

00:50:46.700 see if they can get a reaction no no no no we're not we're not here to uh troll them we were here

00:50:51.500 to do uh our our event it wasn't anything about them in fact it would have been better if they

00:50:57.060 hadn't turned up frankly uh anyway all right then so turning away from britain we'll take a look

00:51:03.420 over the atlantic to america and discuss something funny that i've noticed so the trump admin so far

00:51:10.140 could really i think quite accurately be described as the podcast presidency in a number of different

00:51:15.840 ways one being that the actual promotion of the campaign a lot of the campaign in 2024 and prior

00:51:23.280 was um held up by podcasts you know donald trump did a lot of the podcast rounds he went on places

00:51:28.800 like logan paul he did the wwe podcasts he did a lot of joe rogan a lot of the people who are in

00:51:34.160 his administration are kind of joe rogan alumni so they have a deep connection to podcasts and a

00:51:40.880 of the admin were running their own podcasts as well like dan bongino but also the maga admin

00:51:48.020 right now seems to have become its own pipeline to come back to being a podcaster for a lot of

00:51:55.240 these people i mean i'm just double maybe there'll be some new podcast careers but he is rfk is

00:52:00.560 currently the secretary of health and human services yes he's still in his position he is

00:52:04.900 yeah i just had to double check because this sounds like someone who does not have a job

00:52:09.700 Yeah, when I saw this at first, it's the Make America Healthy Again action Twitter account.

00:52:15.960 It's got the gold tick, so it's official.

00:52:18.040 It's all part of the admin still.

00:52:19.740 But it said that he's announced he'll be launching a new podcast where nothing is off limits,

00:52:24.600 saying that for decades now Americans have been told that we should just trust the system,

00:52:28.660 but our children are sicker, and it came with this little video.

00:52:31.820 Honestly, until I noticed that it was from the actual account, I thought this was a joke.

00:52:36.960 and i thought that the video that was underneath it was ai generated because because it's just such

00:52:44.920 a bizarre thing for somebody who's currently sitting in a position of immense responsibility

00:52:49.660 and power to do and do personally it would be one thing if the administration his part of it

00:52:56.660 had a little um like off-branch podcast where some of his staff members did it and announced just

00:53:04.680 here's the things that we've been doing here's some of the things that we've done but for him

00:53:08.180 to do it personally struck me as quite strange can i just read this because this is really weird

00:53:13.480 right for decades now americans have been told that we should trust the system but our children

00:53:17.500 are sick and many of us have come to the conclusion that government actually lies to us

00:53:20.680 the podcast is about telling the truth we're the government now exactly this podcast is about

00:53:26.040 telling the truth especially when it's uncomfortable i'm going to have fearless

00:53:28.660 conversations with critical thinkers i'm going to ask the questions and lift the taboos and

00:53:33.080 expose the hypocrisy and corruption we're going to follow the evidence wherever it leads the time

00:53:36.520 for half the measure is over yeah if only you were in government if you were going to expose the

00:53:41.220 corruption do it surely surely the doj should be involved yeah but seriously i don't think that

00:53:48.680 this would be again too much of a bad idea if rfk wasn't presenting it himself because now it just

00:53:54.560 seems like you don't have anything more important to do yeah but like because i wouldn't mind if

00:53:59.960 they were going we found this corruption here and we've sorted it out we found out that these

00:54:04.880 lobbyists were paying for these chemicals to go under the radar with the fda or something that's

00:54:10.560 not bad in in the name of transparency but again rfk himself doing it it's a bit weird why are you

00:54:16.500 hosting a podcast bro like the the system's making our children sick yeah okay and you were literally

00:54:21.680 elected to fix it like you were about five percent of the vote and you joined donald trump and that

00:54:27.800 those people are all expecting you to just get whatever weird chemicals out of the food do

00:54:33.080 whatever it is that you know i don't know what his arguments are to it i basically probably believe

00:54:37.620 them though you know i believe there is some sort of institution i mean i'm i'm less skeptical

00:54:42.500 of vaccines as they're administered in the uk obviously during covid there were a lot of

00:54:48.260 questions regarding the food the covid yeah but yeah but obviously in america they have very

00:54:53.580 different vaccine schedule which probably raises all sorts of questions and in america as well i've

00:54:59.360 heard that the food is just basically pure poison recent i recently read through um ren's raw egg

00:55:05.460 nationalist's latest book and some of the discussions in there of the kinds of additives

00:55:10.020 and chemicals that are put into american food is is absurd yeah so there's a lot to be dealt with

00:55:16.540 in america as far as making the country healthy as as is as is on the tin here if only he were

00:55:22.500 the health secretary and he could do that but you know what it reminded me of it reminded me of

00:55:27.740 dan bongino being a podcast but i'm not the deputy director of the fbi i can make some real changes

00:55:34.300 what yeah and then being in the fbi and then going back to being a podcaster leaving the fbi and

00:55:40.880 being like now i can make some real change i mean they i i feel bad for the guy and i'm

00:55:47.040 of the view that these people are being physically threatened they must be because there's no other

00:55:52.000 explanation makes sense you're literally in charge and then these extra podcasts and productions

00:55:56.700 that come up afterwards seem to be ways of them trying to like subtly gesture at some of the

00:56:02.540 stuff that they've had to put up with or maybe talk around it maybe but these are the guys

00:56:06.820 literally at the top of these institutions just start firing people and doing the things you want

00:56:11.240 done the thing is this kind of thing allows a huge amount of money laundering yeah if if you

00:56:18.280 have a subscription model and you do have major financial backing it can be done so that the

00:56:25.000 amount that is to be passed to you is distributed in small increments uh and presented as

00:56:33.260 subscriptions and then that is a clean source of money that you pay taxes on etc well it's you know

00:56:41.400 breaking bad money laundering style is is doable here there's there's all of that but for

00:56:46.640 Other sources and information on why this might be happening, Dr. Robert Malone, which everybody will remember from the COVID years, has come out in interviews and said that he's got information that RFK was essentially ordered to shut down discussions of vaccines as the health secretary and said that the Trump insiders think that RFK's voter base are expendable in the 2026 midterm so that they don't need to worry about their concerns.

00:57:13.220 they can have them left to the side presumably for the sake of vested interest i can't speak to

00:57:17.880 the truth of this this is information given from different sources why would someone else as well

00:57:22.980 this emerald robinson who says that uh rfk juniors team at the uh as health secretary has been

00:57:29.980 removed or sidelined by the white house and claims that it's now being run by big pharma lobbyists

00:57:35.980 which would give some kind of explanation as to why all of a sudden he's got a load of free time

00:57:41.540 to i'll just do a podcast shining light on the darkness of corruption within this industry so

00:57:47.320 sad though man it is a little sad because again no genuinely right i i was actually quite excited

00:57:53.060 for rfk's thing because like you i've heard you see so many anecdotal events like stories of

00:57:57.940 women who are like oh yeah i can't eat bread but i went to france and i could eat bread just fine

00:58:02.220 there and actually i didn't get whatever the bowel issue is i can't remember what you get but um yes

00:58:07.600 uh yeah whatever it is you know you know she's i can't eat bread in america oh i could eat bread

00:58:12.140 in europe i went to italy and i could eat all of the bread it was wonderful it's like yes bread

00:58:15.660 in america is genuinely disgusting yeah oh yeah absolutely like it's i can't imagine how bread

00:58:20.940 could be that disgusting and bad for you but i've never been to america it keeps for two or three

00:58:26.820 months yeah that's how much is added to it's preservative and so so i mean we talk about

00:58:32.340 ultra processed foods over here but that sounds like on a completely different you wait you go

00:58:36.340 to the supermarkets and you pick up a box and you look at the list of ingredients and it's like that

00:58:39.520 and you're just like but this is i do know that a lot of those ingredients will be things like red

00:58:44.180 dye number one yeah yeah but a lot but a lot of it's preservatives so these things can stay in

00:58:48.740 storage or whatever right but the but the point is this is what rfks and time mandate was it was

00:58:52.720 like make america healthy again why didn't trump just go look just go and do whatever it has to be

00:58:56.900 done just crack on and just smash all of these things put in a series of regulations class runs

00:59:02.680 everything i guess they do well and even outside of the donor class as well uh there's evidence

00:59:07.900 presented well there's reporting presented in this as well talking about how um basically it seems

00:59:14.440 like uh this is coming off of the back of what they describe as a bevy of recent setbacks

00:59:19.500 including widespread criticism of vaccine policy changes a federal ruling last month blocking

00:59:25.020 several of these moves and resistance from key republican senators so within party resistance

00:59:30.200 that's kept president donald trump's surgeon general pick from taking office and they suggest

00:59:35.700 that it could be a way of rebranding the strategy so that they're going less from doing things and

00:59:41.580 more talking about things that they could have done oh that is terrible so it does sound like

00:59:46.880 they are getting massively sidelined not to say that everything that they did last year when they

00:59:52.240 were a bit more active was sensible or even really within the remit like for instance quite

00:59:57.240 notoriously last april and july there were new guidelines released by the national institute of

01:00:02.560 health um giving saying any medical researchers will have all funds terminated if they supported

01:00:08.340 a boycott of israel which was just completely bizarre because why is this under your remit

01:00:14.340 you're supposed to be making america healthy again but again this this speaks to the compromise that

01:00:19.160 a lot of people think that you can get that you can give them what they want and then you get what

01:00:25.620 you want in return whereas instead they get what they want and then you get sidelined and now

01:00:30.120 you're a podcast bro again it's really sad man which does seem to happen quite often and there

01:00:36.060 was actually action off of the back of this where there was initial cancellation of about 400 million

01:00:41.540 dollars in grants and contracts to columbia university uh which obviously conducts a lot

01:00:46.300 of research purely for this kind of uh what they what they described as anti-semitism so it seemed

01:00:52.860 like a lot of the administration's efforts last year were to tackle this rather than what

01:00:57.800 necessarily a lot of people voted them in for but that's not to say that there wasn't anything good

01:01:02.880 that came of a lot of his initiatives uh for one uh people in america now are far more especially

01:01:10.340 on trump's side um in favor of doing things like offering removing seed oils from school meals

01:01:16.160 removing seed oils basically making food into real food crazy because that's what it sounds

01:01:21.940 like in america like food just isn't food recently i decided to try and cut out a lot of these ultra

01:01:28.260 processed foods from my diet and i'm eating a lot more red meat and a lot more whole foods

01:01:33.680 healthy dairies unpasteurized milk and honestly i feel so much better yeah man just day to day

01:01:40.300 my energy levels the quality of rest that i'm getting uh the consistency of my energy as well

01:01:46.920 i'm getting less aches and pains some physical stuff that i've been dealing with recently as

01:01:51.300 well as cleared up almost immediately really it's crazy and that's in england yeah yes that's in

01:01:57.420 england whereas america from what you're describing and from what i've read seems to be so much worse

01:02:03.080 it's really terrible and like everything that it's weird that the same foods in america have a much

01:02:08.000 higher calorific content as well like i went to like disneyland i was like okay i'll get a salad

01:02:13.940 this salad was like 1500 calories i'm like how the hell do you make a salad 1500 calories

01:02:21.300 It's all the dressings that were on it and stuff like this, right?

01:02:23.360 I was going to say, was there weird sauce and dressing stuff on it?

01:02:25.120 Yeah, and the thing is, I'm totally with you, right?

01:02:28.020 So 90% of my diet is basically red meat and fresh veg.

01:02:31.740 So I'll have steak and broccoli or cabbage and carrots or whatever it is.

01:02:35.480 I don't have the veg or fruit or anything like that.

01:02:38.720 It's just meat and dairy.

01:02:40.440 For me, it's just to make sure I get vitamin C, frankly.

01:02:44.080 But I like broccoli, steak, and a bit of gravy or something.

01:02:48.960 Amazing meal.

01:02:49.880 Totally happy with it.

01:02:50.780 and i've never felt better in my entire life fill you up and the weird here's another weird thing

01:02:56.560 and i'm don't take this as like health or diet advice from me because it might just be something

01:03:01.360 weird with me right i'd seen people for a long while advise that like if you're eating the right

01:03:08.100 food you can basically eat as much of it as you want and you won't get fat in the same way that

01:03:12.240 you do eating this other stuff i've had multiple days recently where i've been having like 4 000

01:03:17.640 calories a day jesus and i have not put any weight on at all in fact one day i'd stepped on the scale

01:03:25.340 i've been consistently looking at the scales one day i'd lost a bit of weight which was bizarre

01:03:30.860 how is that happening i don't know don't take me as like don't take me as a the broad stroke for

01:03:36.220 every example there but that's just my anecdotal experience with it but either way that's that's

01:03:41.360 just the the general effect of raising awareness of this stuff in america sorry just as a pause on

01:03:46.440 that that's what makes this all the more frustrating where it's like okay you've actually

01:03:51.100 got the public behind you even look at the level of harris supporters who are basically on your side

01:03:55.720 on this and look banning junk food from being purchased with food stamps i mean really what

01:03:59.840 you're doing is abusing people who have food stamps because they're already presumably going

01:04:04.780 to be lower income probably lower impulse control they need their diet to be curated for them so

01:04:10.440 that they're not just ruining themselves with free money and free food banning artificial dyes from

01:04:15.380 food why not why not the thing is the only people who would be opposed to this are going to be big

01:04:21.680 money yeah and the fact that they're getting their way shows you that it's the donor class in control

01:04:26.840 yeah and if you look at the donor class you see the problem it's terrible genuinely sad but they

01:04:32.780 have also made some genuine changes which is that they adjusted the food pyramid and the layout of

01:04:38.620 it in the recommend in the guidelines and the dietary guidelines that america releases every

01:04:42.680 five years or so uh which greatly upset people like lewis goodhall fascism and would you like

01:04:50.580 to know the fascist food pyramid that rfk put forward well it's this whole grains and other

01:04:57.740 very carb heavy foods yeah right at the bottom of it whereas healthy fats dairy protein red meat

01:05:05.720 fruit and vegetables all put right at the top that's that's my meal like yeah that top row

01:05:11.280 that top row is what i eat yeah your meal right i'll have eggs i'll have olive oil i'll have um

01:05:17.300 you know like greek yogurt but otherwise it's just that top row basically and it is a damn good meal

01:05:23.600 and it's great i love it feel better again a lot of people suffer from low motivation hormone

01:05:29.060 imbalances lethargy throughout the day if you change your diet to just be real food rather

01:05:36.800 than poison because again after having changed my diet for just a little over a week i'm now

01:05:41.560 fully convinced that the normal foods that people are sold on the shelves at supermarkets and in

01:05:47.720 in in plastic packaging a lot of it is poison it's not real food and it has so much added to

01:05:54.780 it that will cause so many health problems for you that will just clear up and one of the other

01:05:59.220 good things about it as well is you tend to find yourself i mean with me going to your local market

01:06:03.600 a lot more going to your local butchers a lot more so it really fosters a greater sense of

01:06:08.720 community rather than just lining the pockets of massive corporations that are selling this

01:06:15.120 at mass scale fundamentally it's good for you yeah it's just good for you in many different ways

01:06:19.820 and it's fantastic compared to the alternative as is explained in this big article here saying that

01:06:26.740 The alternative, if it had been Kamala Harris, for instance, would have been terrible, would have been absolutely terrible for people.

01:06:35.660 The diet guidelines aren't just guidelines.

01:06:40.320 They also dictate what hospitals, nursing homes, inpatient rehab centers, schools, the military, what kind of food that they're all served.

01:06:50.140 Also, again, dictates what kind of food that people who are on benefits, like SNAP, can buy.

01:06:56.740 as well and it says here the total food procurement governed by or derived from

01:07:01.220 the dga is in the range of about 200 to 250 billion dollars annually so when you're moving

01:07:07.540 that much money when it's obviously going to be dictating whose food is getting bought for what

01:07:12.740 and going where obviously you're going to get huge financial interests and lobbying

01:07:17.140 from major food corporations who are going to say well we've got all of this soy and artificially

01:07:23.220 lab grown corn syrup yeah that we need to move if it's going to be 200 to 250 billion on the table

01:07:30.540 we can afford to put in a few hundred million to make sure that we get our way by greasing the

01:07:35.980 right palms right so you can just see it says here i mean as a procurement document the dga moves

01:07:41.580 more food than mcdonald's cisco and walmart's combined that's how huge this operation is and

01:07:48.860 what was kamala harris going to do well they had a a dietary guideline support report for december

01:07:56.300 2024 that they were going to use to dictate it and it was going to be a central recommended

01:08:01.660 recommendation to deprioritize animal protein in favor of plant-based sources for the first time

01:08:08.660 in the history of the guidelines the committee proposed reorganizing the entire protein food

01:08:12.980 group to list beans peas and lentils first followed then by nuts and soy and then seafood

01:08:20.300 and then dead last meat poultry and eggs they literally want to turn you into something feeble

01:08:25.940 yes yes evil physically feeble malnourished the thing is forgive my libertarian side for a second

01:08:33.540 the minute you have a government body telling you what you should be eating

01:08:37.820 as opposed to just listening to your grandmother you're going to get this corporate manipulation

01:08:42.880 so the existence of these bodies is itself the problem because it lends the whole system to

01:08:49.860 manipulation whereas if you just remove the idea of dietary guidelines issued by the government

01:08:57.220 and state intervention in what you're actually eating the problem solves itself because people

01:09:04.340 will gravitate to what tastes good and feels good yeah and and just to count signal the

01:09:09.580 libertarianism a minute is i hate to say it but one of the good things that the eu actually does

01:09:14.660 is restricts corporations from putting all this crap in your food right that's actually one of

01:09:19.820 the few good things the eu does which is no the food has to be clean and normal just like you know

01:09:25.680 minimal ingredients and it's like okay that's actually a good idea and as we can see from the

01:09:30.640 example of america the corporations just do not care and we'll just pump your food full of whatever

01:09:35.020 makes it cheaper for them to sell it and listen to some of the other recommendations replace

01:09:39.800 butter with seed oils high in polyunsaturated fat recommended low fat dairy over full fat

01:09:47.260 pushed plant-based milk alternatives as substitutes for cow's milk so there's some

01:09:51.840 laid the groundwork for displacing dairy as a primary food group all together with water and

01:09:58.700 soy positioned as default federal recommendations right so you can actually obviously if you go

01:10:05.320 online and look for articles most of the articles will try and downplay how bad for you soy is but

01:10:13.220 you can actually just go to in england at least you can speak to a doctor about the effects of

01:10:17.880 soy on men and they will just tell you outright listen if you drink a lot of soy it's full of

01:10:22.460 estrogen it will give you tits that's that's what it will do and and it says the biden 0.85

01:10:28.420 administration introduced a health equity framework as the central lens for the committee's 0.87

01:10:33.280 work with dei compliance applied to food subordinating questions about what nutritionally

01:10:40.080 optimal to questions about who is affected and how recommendations impact various racial and

01:10:44.960 socioeconomic categories so therefore because non-white people are lactose intolerant less

01:10:52.920 dairy i love dairy and what what the article makes quite a compelling argument for is it was

01:10:59.340 essentially going to stigmatize indo-european derived diets yeah historically our ancestors

01:11:05.460 drank a lot of dairy so much so that we developed lactose tolerance unlike everybody else and there

01:11:11.720 are a lot of other people actually who do like um some central asians and some africans actually

01:11:15.860 i would expect mongoli yeah yeah mediterranean yeah mediterraneans aren't they yeah but but

01:11:21.080 still it's primarily europeans yeah who have the highest rates of lactose tolerance and that's

01:11:26.900 that's crazy man because like i did my sunday roast yesterday and i've been working on my

01:11:31.200 cauliflower cheese and it's the most incredible thing harry i've got to make it one day for you

01:11:35.180 right literally i i broccoli and cauliflower so you you boil the cauliflower for a bit longer

01:11:40.680 about 10 minutes longer than the broccoli so make sure it's all consistent right and instead of milk

01:11:44.360 i'm using half milk half cream so double cream oh yeah yeah right uh then obviously you put all the

01:11:49.700 cheese in it and you end up with this beautiful creamy cheesy sauce and it's it's genuine sounds

01:11:55.360 great except for the broccoli and cauliflower yeah exactly the broccoli and cauliflower is fine

01:11:59.520 it's the the the the body if you cover dairy and cheese to hide the fact that you're eating

01:12:04.540 broccoli and cauliflower yeah that's that's great for you but you're starting to sound like my mum

01:12:10.100 when I'm sat at the dinner table for roast.

01:12:12.880 You sound like my kids objecting to the broccoli.

01:12:16.260 Broccoli's nice.

01:12:17.060 I like broccoli.

01:12:17.600 But the point is,

01:12:18.680 it's an amazing, amazing thing.

01:12:20.980 But the point is,

01:12:21.860 and of course,

01:12:23.060 in the sauce,

01:12:23.640 you've got like 50 grams of butter as well.

01:12:25.680 So it's just like,

01:12:26.460 this is the most delicious thing in the world.

01:12:28.480 Thank you to my Indo-European ancestors

01:12:30.500 who allowed me to enjoy it.

01:12:32.620 I'm willing to try that.

01:12:33.720 I'm willing to try that.

01:12:34.540 It'd be worth the stomach upset, I promise.

01:12:36.580 We didn't eat rotten foods.

01:12:37.940 My stomach doesn't get upset with dairy.

01:12:39.740 I don't know.

01:12:40.200 Some people do.

01:12:40.860 The Mediterranean people, we eat dairy a lot now.

01:12:43.440 Oh, okay.

01:12:43.780 Well, that's fine then.

01:12:44.380 That's good.

01:12:45.540 That's good. 0.99

01:12:46.280 That's an extra point on the Firaz can stay. 1.00

01:12:49.420 Right.

01:12:51.180 Eat this cauliflower cheese.

01:12:53.840 So I just wanted to highlight that they did do something good. 0.89

01:12:56.800 The only big shame is that this is a Soviet-style five-year plan.

01:13:02.160 And so if another administration gets into 2028,

01:13:05.500 this is actually a warning of what will probably be coming to you.

01:13:08.760 and what might be being served to your kids at school back to rfk and his podcast though i think

01:13:15.500 the most exciting thing about this development given what an utter disappointment is is for when

01:13:20.120 the inevitable feud between him and trump develops as seems to happen with all of his former associates

01:13:26.600 when they have a podcast or radio show or just online presence in general like for instance

01:13:33.020 everybody knows that, you know, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, all of these people

01:13:38.860 used to be huge supporters of Donald Trump. Alex Jones took financial, massive financial hits for

01:13:46.160 him. Almost went to prison. Tucker lost his show because he was questioning the election

01:13:51.100 in 2020. That's why he lost his show. And then as a result of the feud, you know, he says we should

01:13:57.340 impeach Trump, to which Trump responds with bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest 0.77

01:14:01.880 things lost his entire fortune as he should have for his horrendous attack on the families of

01:14:06.840 sandy hook shooting victims ridiculously claiming it was a hoax which didn't seem to bother trump

01:14:11.980 back in 2015 when he was going on his show yeah when he went on his show so i love your show your

01:14:17.020 show's amazing i can't wait for the feud because of course as well the other big development was

01:14:21.840 tucker went on the bbc the other day and just outright called trump a slave so i'm looking

01:14:27.240 forward to the um essay that trump's going to put on truth social about that as well can we can we

01:14:32.040 pause on this one though because what i think that what you've revealed with all of this is

01:14:35.740 is that maga itself as a movement has been subverted yes yes it has been redirected that

01:14:41.740 the the nativist energy has been redirected to ends that are not beneficial to the american

01:14:46.580 people right and that begins with like the make make america healthy again well that's not happening

01:14:51.320 anymore and unfortunately rfk junior has become a podcast bro now you know rfk junior was a bit of

01:14:56.580 next democrat so he's got lots of opinions that are quite lefty but overall i really liked him

01:15:02.300 and i thought he was a really serious guy who would you know thought about this a lot and so

01:15:06.100 for him to be like well i'm gonna didn't do a podcast terrible right and then you get to the

01:15:09.860 other side where trump is turning on his podcasters these are the stormtroopers these are the people

01:15:14.460 who got him elected who got him elected and so now to say oh no all of these people are bad

01:15:18.720 so okay who are you doing this for you know they like you are these people you were in

01:15:24.980 shoulder to shoulder with them against the left against whatever it is against immigrants against

01:15:29.600 all these problems and you were you know bombarding and you were winning and then suddenly you've 0.81

01:15:34.200 turned your guns on your own guys it's like okay well you've got a brain worm then what has happened

01:15:39.200 and as tucker carlson says well he's become a slave to the israeli lobby yeah well i've not

01:15:44.240 heard any complaints coming from the steve whitkoff jared kushner factions so i think that says it all

01:15:49.680 it's tragic i genuinely feel bad for americans who have to watch this happen in real time it is but

01:15:55.960 there is trail there is something to take from this which is that you do still have some control

01:16:02.240 over what you put in your body so even if you're in america i'm sure there are sources of real

01:16:08.940 healthy food that you can get so if you've got a local butchers or something where you can source

01:16:14.200 your own food if you've got a farm nearby that you can go and you can buy products off wholesale

01:16:18.920 directly from them do so and you will be amazed at how much better you feel for it yeah just

01:16:25.420 this is a thing right there's this um uh form of tiktok video uh yeah do you want to get the 0.78

01:16:31.760 video comments up samson uh where it's it's some woman who's like i'm gonna bake something 1.00

01:16:36.040 and you think okay and she pulls out like potato chips the crisps that are already cooked and she 0.96

01:16:41.500 puts them in and then she pulls out like some glass jar with sauce and pulls it over and then

01:16:46.100 she gets pre-shredded cheese i'm like baking is done with ingredients right what you have there

01:16:52.180 are finished products what's she using the crisps texture i don't know right but it's it's just one

01:17:00.020 of those things where it's like this this is gross cook with uncooked ingredients and you'd be

01:17:05.160 amazed at how how good your food is the only time me and the missus have used like pre-made food for

01:17:10.700 stuff is if you get some digestives and crush

01:17:12.720 them up for the base of a cheese cake

01:17:14.920 or something. Sure, yes.

01:17:15.920 Which is just what you do.

01:17:18.600 For anyone who doesn't know, a digestive biscuit is

01:17:20.680 the least interesting of all the biscuits.

01:17:24.100 Also, if you

01:17:24.860 get the dark chocolate ones, one of the most

01:17:26.660 delicious ones. True. Anyway, let's

01:17:28.800 go to the video comments.

01:17:31.100 I would like to pronounce the new

01:17:32.820 Lib Dem leader,

01:17:34.860 Peter Perrer.

01:17:36.520 The first and only

01:17:38.260 Banana Cat.

01:17:39.440 i mean i don't honestly who doesn't love a cat the more serious than ed davy that's what i was

01:17:47.180 gonna say how would it really be different you really captured the vibe there yeah good good

01:17:54.220 point next one so i've been seeing carl and guys using the term i don't care as a response to left

01:18:01.800 wing whinging but i think the old novel series galactic heroes had a much better catchphrase to

01:18:07.400 it which is so what you're being divisive so what you're being sensational so what you're being

01:18:14.680 racist so what does any of this take away from the facts that we're addressing right now that's

01:18:20.940 a great point that is that is a great point because it leans into what aa always says if

01:18:25.260 you're explaining you're losing yeah so you put the onus on them to have to explain why i should

01:18:30.420 get. That's great. That's a great point.

01:18:34.440 The interest rate was 15%

01:18:36.640 at the time. I really

01:18:38.460 hate when people say things like this, like

01:18:40.440 I'm supposed to be sympathetic.

01:18:42.440 Even if their interest rate was that high

01:18:44.640 over the entire length of the mortgage,

01:18:46.880 which it wasn't,

01:18:49.040 houses were so much more

01:18:50.320 affordable back then, they still

01:18:52.340 would have paid it off sooner than taking a mortgage

01:18:54.300 out today on the same house.

01:18:56.900 Yeah, this is a...

01:18:58.380 The more factors you add, the less

01:19:00.280 sympathetic i get yeah no no it's this is absolutely out josh right there to be fair

01:19:05.920 though josh should have caught this and i'm surprised they didn't because 15 of 10 grand

01:19:09.820 is way less as he's pointing out here than you know four percent of 270 000 so it's just like

01:19:17.820 yeah sorry josh you should have caught that and um who sent the comment i can't remember who was

01:19:22.640 the center combat this one absolutely correct the vadriga yeah absolutely correct josh totally

01:19:29.700 pwned. Sorry, let's go on to the next one.

01:19:53.700 Who's this party for?

01:19:55.560 Them.

01:19:56.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, literally, you're not allowed to be a candidate.

01:19:59.100 they are. I absolutely would not

01:20:01.520 be allowed to be. Of course, of course.

01:20:03.220 I really would not be.

01:20:05.160 Anyway, let's go to this.

01:20:07.080 Thanks everyone for the live event. It was a blast. From turning up

01:20:09.460 and seeing the dad's army of protests out front, to

01:20:11.320 meeting so many people who were just fun to be around.

01:20:13.340 Shout out to Stuart of Glasgow, and I've forgotten the rest of your

01:20:15.420 names, sorry. I think Harry's argument on the

01:20:17.420 Star Wars prequels won me over, Beau definitely wasn't

01:20:19.460 buying into my argument that I'm going to keep my hair,

01:20:21.500 and Faraz's reaction to hearing about my engagement

01:20:23.280 was fantastic. Cheers for the hug, mate.

01:20:25.260 It was great to finally meet Sophie, thanks for the free art,

01:20:27.440 and I realise that buying her a drink technically means I paid the Dane geld,

01:20:30.220 but overall it was a great night.

01:20:31.700 Carl, I'll consider your offer.

01:20:33.380 Swindon is a much better place for having to host a duel,

01:20:35.120 so please come back again soon.

01:20:37.680 Thanks a lot for coming, man. It was a great night.

01:20:39.340 Yeah, great seeing you there.

01:20:40.800 I'm very happy for you.

01:20:57.440 That was wholesome.

01:21:16.040 Windmills are beautiful.

01:21:17.800 Classic windmills, not the modern

01:21:19.320 ostracities.

01:21:21.160 Yeah, they really missed a trick with the aesthetics, didn't they?

01:21:23.420 They could have won the right

01:21:25.340 over by just making them look pretty.

01:21:27.440 Unlike its English namesake, Chatham in southern Ontario is not widely known for anything.

01:21:33.420 Well, I like to invoke the name to Italians, even including Italian-Americans,

01:21:38.120 as the birthplace of the Hawaiian pizza by a Greek who understood that pineapple does belong on pizza.

01:21:44.040 Anyway, for when Carl is next back on the podcast,

01:21:46.660 he can add Chatham to his list of places to visit to maybe glimpse the Sasquatch.

01:21:52.420 Hey man, you know, just saying, the truth is out there.

01:21:55.100 Maybe the Sasquatch was the friends we made along the way.

01:21:58.180 But that was a beautiful looking area.

01:21:59.980 Yeah, it didn't look too bad.

01:22:01.200 Gorgeous.

01:22:02.460 Let's go to the next one. 1.00

01:22:04.080 Hey, Lotus Eaters.

01:22:05.280 You guys need to do a Lad's Hour where you watch the videos by Sergeant Ducky. 0.93

01:22:09.740 Specifically, his videos about living with a woman.

01:22:12.620 They are quite insightful, and I guarantee you, you are going to commiserate.

01:22:18.380 As a man who lives with a woman, I don't think I need any sort of guide on how to do it.

01:22:23.100 I've been doing it for years now.

01:22:25.980 It could be funny.

01:22:27.280 It could still be good.

01:22:28.200 Oh, no, I'm not saying it would be funny.

01:22:29.740 I wouldn't want my wife to watch it, but it could be quite fine.

01:22:33.840 Next one.

01:22:35.800 People are wondering where all of the new reform candidates are coming from,

01:22:39.640 and it's cold calling.

01:22:41.240 Cold calling has a very low success rate, single-digit percentages,

01:22:45.940 and there are two sorts of people who have responded to that.

01:22:48.540 That is opportunistic people with an ulterior motive, and mourns.

01:22:53.240 people who didn't realise it was a cold call 0.82

01:22:55.820 and thought that Big Nige himself 0.56

01:22:57.820 had picked them from a list 0.98

01:22:59.280 and seen their inherent genius 1.00

01:23:01.460 so class A morons 1.00

01:23:04.100 and those people on student visas 1.00

01:23:07.160 let's go for it 0.98

01:23:12.340 Rotus Eaters 1.00

01:23:14.080 Racist 0.98

01:23:16.820 Misogynist 1.00

01:23:19.680 Racist 0.92

01:23:22.560 i mean what's your point so what is the uh correct answer right yes

01:23:38.140 i'm just glad they got a bit of exercise at least he's a bit self-aware that's not the

01:23:46.840 real sign oh although just for just for a second well on the so what thing fictagius just uh said

01:23:57.640 so what means you are what they're they're saying don't care means you discredit what they say stick

01:24:02.360 with don't care don't know if i agree there because it depends on what you're being accused

01:24:06.220 of in the first place for instance if somebody says you're causing division if you say don't

01:24:12.020 care or so what you're kind of saying oh i am so so what uh yeah i mean yeah you are kind of

01:24:18.520 that's correct but also so what is more important there because it forces them to explain why your

01:24:23.220 division is worse than their division right so they're literally here opposing you as a divided

01:24:27.920 faction so you i think you are right i mean there are going to be times where so what don't care

01:24:33.720 are you know one's more appropriately than the other yeah i think i think you're definitely

01:24:37.540 right on that one also we got two ten dollars in that we should probably read cranky texan

01:24:41.840 administrations appear to control the institutions when they are aligned with the money when an

01:24:45.360 administration is not aligned with the money the control of the institutions is revealed to be an

01:24:49.300 illusion sadly seems to check out crash bandit wow who knew if you feed people cow and chicken

01:24:55.400 food we get fat like they do i know what a surprise and also the amount of stuff that like

01:25:01.620 you look into like cornstarch and you see it's it was originally developed as like

01:25:06.240 industrial lubricant yeah and you go like why should anybody be putting this in their body

01:25:12.520 technically it's digestible well technically technically it's got calories and some

01:25:18.220 carbohydrates yeah i bet it's got some carbs in it yeah i bet yeah uh connor has left this comment

01:25:23.180 great to see everyone on saturday congratulations to harry and luca on total victory in the prequels

01:25:27.280 debate that remains remains to be seen um omar says didn't boom with the audio or notably suffer

01:25:34.340 tech issues once barely recognize you anymore uh well you can again you can thank mecca for the

01:25:39.740 quality of the venue yes uh grace says uh great event really good crowd and energy in the room

01:25:44.300 thanks guys for a good night out what our pleasure uh starmer's new rent boy says so who did win the

01:25:49.300 star was it look we're not no he said it's the decide because he was the moderator no no no no

01:25:54.100 uh alex says there's an opportunity there carl uh with a bit more money you could buy the old

01:25:57.920 swindon advertiser building and move the load seat is there not sure your company can take on

01:26:01.720 that sort of financial speculation but it revived the building for its whole purpose uh yeah i know

01:26:05.480 it's uh it's interesting isn't it but um well that was funny when you said that they've been

01:26:09.480 bought out by a large american corporation and when they started they were anti-government and

01:26:13.800 it's like are we the swindon yes we're the modern that's when the advertiser used to be rory made

01:26:18.820 this point to me a while ago i was like oh yeah you know this is a great observation uh if i'd

01:26:24.400 been told though if if i'd been there i would have told the protesters that carl is black and

01:26:28.080 therefore can't be racist i don't make the rules i just exploit them for fun and profit kevin says

01:26:32.700 the real kicker was the guys queuing to get into the venue popping across at the protesters and

01:26:36.080 getting selfies with them well you know i mean yeah they're not going to be there all the time

01:26:39.600 are they in fact apparently as soon as the event started they just pissed off um their protest was

01:26:44.960 not spirited in the slightest uh yes true elliot says i've heard the phrase people have short

01:26:51.180 memories in politics but nigel really takes the cake yeah it's it honestly is preposterous

01:26:57.520 for for tice to be like yeah we're gonna show that we're gonna hold those tories to account

01:27:01.960 we're getting the dock robert jamrick like he's gonna be the prosecutor and the prosecuted at 0.99

01:27:06.760 the same time like it's just preposterous glane says they're all traitors and bastards the only 0.98

01:27:13.340 real question is is it too late to the people who are finally realizing the scale now it's never too 0.97

01:27:18.560 late uh we just need to be aware of what we need to do at this point if you're still a reform

01:27:24.540 supporter you're not paying attention it's often said there are good people in there but helping

01:27:28.600 farage and his dei team is not in britain's interest well the thing is they are as you can

01:27:32.580 feel slowly but surely draining out of their party because becoming apparent what that party is so

01:27:37.920 zesty says does farage plan on removing the boris wave he's on record stating that mass

01:27:43.600 deportations cannot be done just like the grooming gang report he is all talk and no walk

01:27:48.040 correct and let's not forget as michael points out farage backstabbed low so people are moving

01:27:54.020 with him from.

01:27:54.680 That's exactly the

01:27:55.620 point, isn't it?

01:27:56.460 Farage is literally

01:27:57.460 the least reliable

01:27:58.580 politician in the

01:27:59.640 country.

01:28:00.940 He just doesn't

01:28:01.660 stand by anything.

01:28:03.380 Ever.

01:28:05.880 Richard says,

01:28:06.800 you need to find

01:28:07.260 one of the signs

01:28:07.780 so you can post it

01:28:08.360 in the office.

01:28:08.800 It'll make you feel

01:28:09.260 good all day.

01:28:11.720 Bangers and mash

01:28:12.420 is my typical meal

01:28:13.340 or boiled eggs and

01:28:14.120 ham.

01:28:14.620 I mean, that's all

01:28:15.020 good.

01:28:16.380 Imperial Mulder

01:28:17.080 says, imagine if

01:28:18.120 reform flops at the

01:28:18.940 local elections

01:28:19.540 could potentially

01:28:20.320 cause Farage to

01:28:20.960 take his ball and

01:28:21.560 go home.

01:28:22.660 Gutted, I couldn't

01:28:23.220 make the live event hopefully next time yeah um well that's the thing i mean i'm sure they will

01:28:27.200 be the most successful party in the the local elections but the question is will they underperform

01:28:32.420 or not and if they do underperform well that's going to be another sort of uh blot on their

01:28:38.380 record uh callum says you should put the sign from the protest poisoning amidst on a t-shirt

01:28:44.140 yeah it's a great logo for a t-shirt it was based wasn't it i want to know is have they taken that

01:28:49.120 from like a band or something is it copyright because if not yeah i i really like that logo

01:28:54.500 yeah it was it was very very very cool yeah uh just some of the things from some of the paid

01:29:00.180 comments uh bald eagle did some digging in this concerning things trump has done internally

01:29:04.560 quietly looks like he's basically given up on the domestic policy he campaigned on

01:29:08.960 if so that's really really disheartening and also it does kind of appear from a

01:29:14.020 from a from a foreigner's lens it appears like he's just gone all in on foreign policy

01:29:19.180 Completely a non-Israel. 0.61

01:29:20.000 And even not the foreign policy he campaigned on. 0.77

01:29:23.680 Yeah, not even America's.

01:29:24.780 Yeah.

01:29:25.400 JC Warlock, have you ever heard of the trade group called Kodoks Alimentarius?

01:29:32.280 Haven't heard of Kodoks Alimentarius, no.

01:29:34.780 Neither have I.

01:29:36.220 Bald Eagle, the problem in the US is that the people who want to change things are running

01:29:40.100 into the wall of politicians and employees that have been bribed to keep things going

01:29:43.380 a specific way.

01:29:44.420 Yeah.

01:29:44.820 I mean, is lobbying not just bribes?

01:29:47.880 I mean, it seems to be, yeah.

01:29:48.840 it's legalized bribery it's legalized bribery yes so you just need to just ban lobbying but

01:29:55.420 nobody's going to do that because i mean the people who would be banning lobbying are being

01:29:59.500 lobbied and being bribed not to do it we're asking the people who are being paid handsome sums to

01:30:04.860 agree not to be paid handsome sums and i don't think they're going to sign up to a spirited

01:30:09.060 patriotic argument maybe sway their hearts i guess not because it's still going anyways it's

01:30:14.440 revolution then we're uh on that bombshell we're out of time so thank you for joining us folks

01:30:19.120 uh we'll be back in half an hour with ferris's realpolitik uh and uh once again thank you everyone

01:30:24.340 for the wonderful weekend it was really really great yeah we we're all tired because of how

01:30:29.320 much energy uh we put out but like so if we're feeling a bit low energy today we do apologize

01:30:33.680 but it's been a lot of great weekend anyway we'll see you in half an hour take care

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 13, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1395

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