The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1397

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1397 for Wednesday the 15th of

00:00:07.540 April 2026. I'm your host Captain Darling joined today by Nate and Dan. Hello. How are you both

00:00:14.700 today? Good. Wonderful. Well today we're going to be talking all about Ireland's endless protests

00:00:21.480 because they've been in the news for over a week now and it is one long consecutive protest and

00:00:28.680 And you know what?

00:00:29.920 Seems to be pretty damn effective from what I can tell.

00:00:33.080 We're also then going to talk about Johnny Smiley going to jail.

00:00:37.440 I don't know who that is, but it sounds like a good news story.

00:00:40.660 Oh, so sweet.

00:00:42.120 Always bring black pills, guys.

00:00:44.400 I love this one.

00:00:45.960 Perhaps we should have jigged those segments around then

00:00:49.140 because then we're going to end on the ultimate white pill,

00:00:51.660 which is the growing generational unfairness.

00:00:55.720 Yes, I've decided that young people have it rough.

00:00:58.680 case i won't stand for it any longer no all right well before we get into it ladies and gentlemen i

00:01:04.520 just want to let you know new chronicles out obviously every saturday this time the first

00:01:09.300 in the multiple part that i'm going to be doing was stellios talking all about the legendary tale

00:01:15.360 of jason and the argonauts obviously you have the classic harry hausen film from the 1960s and

00:01:21.600 legendary yeah we've had a look at um apollonius of rhodes is telling of it he was one of the royal

00:01:27.340 librarian for the Great Library of Alexandria, and so pretty educated man, and he does a wonderful

00:01:33.980 job of the tale, and if you're interested in this epic myth, go and check out Chronicles,

00:01:39.640 five pounds a month for all the premium content on the website, and let's get into it. All right

00:01:46.140 then, so though this segment isn't actually chiefly about immigration, I do think we need

00:01:53.380 to concede the fact that, look, tensions in Ireland are growing month on month, year on year, right?

00:02:01.440 It is becoming, I don't want to sound sensationalist, but you can feel it is becoming something of a

00:02:06.820 powder keg. It's untenable. Yeah. So this isn't about immigration, it's about the protests,

00:02:12.860 which are about immigration. Immigration is part of the concern of the process. What else are they

00:02:17.980 concerned about uh also fuel fuel prices is the largest one because even i suppose those uh

00:02:25.680 households across ireland that haven't been reached yet somehow by you know the over a million

00:02:31.520 foreigners who have arrived in ireland recently uh they do still have cars and fuel prices do

00:02:37.660 affect them and so in a way it's allowed for i think a lot of the normie irish public to be

00:02:45.100 galvanized by this movement in the way that the mainstream establishment can't really

00:02:49.800 throw anything at them and but i mean to be honest with you we'll see that people have tried that and

00:02:55.900 we'll get to it but nonetheless there are still protests going on about immigration and i imagine

00:03:01.460 that many of the protesters and you said there's been a million immigration into ireland there has

00:03:05.460 been an like unprecedented level they basically have their own boris they're screwed but they

00:03:10.140 only started with four million people uh well maybe it's not a million but it's uh an unprecedented

00:03:16.480 number for i think about 10 of their population grew as a result of enormous wave of immigration

00:03:23.660 so let's just talk about the fuel protests as well then because first of all uh obviously as

00:03:29.200 we're all aware from um uh the war with iran between america and israel and iran of course

00:03:37.220 This has disrupted the global oil trade and obviously the Straits of Hormuz.

00:03:41.680 This affects basically 20% to 30% of the global trade of oil.

00:03:46.720 And this has increased the cost of diesel per litre by about 30%.

00:03:51.400 Now, though there seemed to have been something of a ceasefire, and I use that word very, very frivolously, agreed just last week,

00:04:02.400 the effects of this basically didn't really reach Ireland.

00:04:05.840 and can i offer some words of comfort to ireland go for it the the stuff coming out the strait of

00:04:12.240 humus takes a couple of months to filter into the market because of the the lead time yes first of

00:04:16.620 all you've got to get it there and then you've got to process it so if you think it's bad now

00:04:20.540 don't worry it's going to be so much worse in three weeks time when the when it actually works

00:04:25.340 the lag through the system there you are how reassuring yes thank you dan so as this uh

00:04:31.100 The substack here goes on to say, protests started on Irish roads from the 7th of April, expanding from Dublin to other areas of Ireland with either slow moving or stationary trucks, tractors and other vehicles.

00:04:43.860 Ambulances and fire engines operated a reduced service for essential emergencies only as a result of traffic disruptions and fuel shortages.

00:04:51.880 Farmers have been very clear about the consequences of higher fuel costs affecting the growing of crops and the distribution of produce to shops and supermarkets by road, carrying placards with the slogan, no farms, no food.

00:05:05.660 Farmers marched in Dublin, Cork, Galway and Limerick and other cities to raise awareness of how increased petrol and diesel prices affect the running tractors, the delivery vans and ultimately the prices and availability of food to consumers.

00:05:21.540 And of course, this is to mention as well, in addition to the problem of the effect that oil is having on farming and agriculture as well, with the increased population size via immigration into Ireland as well, that means that in addition to problems with growing the produce and having to rely more on imports into the country, you have more mouths to feed in the country as well.

00:05:48.660 well i mean ireland's done exactly what we've done basically but they've speed run it yeah so

00:05:55.480 they they've done a form of speed running so they import the majority of their food now there's

00:06:01.600 basically no farmers there at all um there are farmers obviously i'm not suggesting the reason

00:06:06.280 but it's exponentially yeah uh increased and um i don't know if you've got this got this in here

00:06:14.340 but they've they're suffering exactly what we've suffered recently because they've imported loads

00:06:19.860 of people and then their welfare bill is higher than their income tax right so ireland is screwed

00:06:29.920 basically this is kind of like their last ditch effort we don't think they're gonna have another

00:06:33.400 potato famine do we because i mean i don't want to be unkind but they've only just shut up about

00:06:37.500 the last one well to be honest with you i think they'd uh certainly from the perspective of the

00:06:43.740 irish government they'd be less um bothered by it because it wasn't um the english aren't

00:06:50.260 implicated in it oh and the english are actually the only foreigners that the irish government

00:06:54.380 have a problem with other than that the modern welcome happy to welcome every tom dick and harry

00:06:59.560 into the country as long as they're not english only i suggest the names probably aren't tom dick

00:07:03.420 and harry uh so in fact i can as it goes on to say in fact i can personally vouch for the fact

00:07:09.260 that as of Wednesday the 8th of April I saw many supermarket shelves being half empty as that day's

00:07:16.180 delivery didn't arrive. Talking about food security, Ireland is quite exposed to the risk as you go on

00:07:21.700 to say Nate and by the 8th of April half of the supply of fuel across Ireland had been locked

00:07:29.540 because of the protests and so this is where we get into the other aspects of it and I just thought

00:07:35.580 we go through some of the uh you can see some more footage here from uh in the thread by michael

00:07:40.240 o'keefe where you just see the amount of people uh turning out to this i'll just mute it as we go on

00:07:47.160 but i would just say with this because this is almost turned into a bit of an annual thing now

00:07:52.580 right every year brussels gets besieged and you know all of the everyone comes in and they pack

00:07:58.280 it out and you can't move anywhere everything gets shut down and then the eu say oh well we'll do this

00:08:03.260 and everyone goes oh okay and it all just disperses and everything goes away and it all goes back to

00:08:07.940 to normal it's a momentary pause on that pressure cooker right the pressure cooker is still there

00:08:13.880 it's still going to bubble over and any amount of uh sort of momentary placating that they're

00:08:22.380 trying to do and i mean it's not even really they're not placating anyone because what people

00:08:26.660 actually want is everyone to bloody go home right yeah they want these ridiculous taxes to go which

00:08:31.980 would by proxy you'd be able to do when mass remigration occurs because you wouldn't have to 0.96

00:08:36.700 fund the third world right but no no no no like i'm sure you'll get to it they had like a tiny 0.78

00:08:42.120 little scrap that they threw to people yeah people were still like

00:08:46.260 nah well it's just not persuasive is it because it's nonsense it's just not and also as well the

00:08:54.420 irish public have very much got the uh the flavor for the uh the loyalties of the irish government

00:09:00.080 at this point as well so let's just go on to this as well so as a journal reports here apparently

00:09:06.200 this was going around on on whatsapp where they were evoking the easter rising uh in some of the

00:09:12.380 whatsapp groups and it goes on to say uh we are going to put a gun to the government's head

00:09:19.160 and there are going to be major protests says james uh geoggan sorry i've definitely

00:09:25.440 just don't try no uh his name was james james g james good name james james very pronounceable

00:09:35.040 uh the man the only messing uh the man who has emerged as one of the fuel price protest leaders

00:09:41.760 as said on tiktok and this was back on the 29th of march uh on thursday uh justice minister jim

00:09:48.800 o'carrahan suggested that those partaking in blockades uh blockages and protests have been

00:09:54.620 manipulated by outside agitators like far right british figure tommy robinson though as the

00:10:01.180 journal themselves have to admit social media and the messages inside whatsapp groups however

00:10:06.240 strongly suggest that this is not the case and point towards grassroots organizing including

00:10:11.760 in-person meetings and online communication so they've just had to consider no this is not

00:10:17.460 outside agitation this is entirely organic and it is just a total you know people are sick of

00:10:24.600 the status quo you know what's fascinating to me is um they instantly go to uh tommy robinson

00:10:31.120 and of all people yeah oh yeah literally of all people and then you've uh i don't know why but

00:10:37.160 his name escapes me who's the notorious mma guy what's his name conor mcgregor right and yet

00:10:41.720 you've got him tweeting like a madman about all this even liked one of my posts oh yeah

00:10:47.900 um but i know no we'll just blame tommy robinson it's like mate conor mcgregor is literally calling

00:10:52.980 for people to go up and do like you know things oh yeah just some things yeah just yeah but tommy

00:10:59.280 robinson shut up why did he scrap his presidential run uh mcgregor yeah well i don't know actually

00:11:04.940 no i didn't know he had to be fair i don't pay that much attention to it yeah i am to be honest

00:11:10.420 i i'd never um personally looked at conor mcgregor in terms of like his road to like political

00:11:17.280 presidential ship i just see him as a man who uh has a wide-reaching voice throughout ireland and

00:11:22.780 that you know commands uh when when he speaks a lot of the irish people listen to him and so in

00:11:28.380 that sense he is very good at keeping the vitality he's a bit of an avatar yeah these sorts of things

00:11:34.120 going uh you see here uh michael martin says the protests at the moment are wrong and not conducive 0.95

00:11:40.560 to cohesion within our society, which I imagine would be a much stronger spin if the Irish

00:11:47.040 government hadn't spent the past decade just basically deconstructing Irish society.

00:11:52.720 Yeah.

00:11:53.640 We also found this remarkable one here from apparently what I suppose for YouTube purposes,

00:12:00.000 I will just refer to as a speaker from the traveller community here talking about how

00:12:05.660 the protests were overtook by the far right and uh this guy here's saying that the woman has never

00:12:11.520 won an election cannot string a basic sentence together so it from what i saw of it she basically

00:12:17.480 got because of her background she basically got given a position but i mean also her reasoning

00:12:24.200 for why it's far right is because it has the irish tricolor on it yeah she she goes on to say

00:12:28.720 i would be wary of going being involved with any protest that has the national flag is the

00:12:34.620 definition of far right now anybody who uses their own country's flag yes right yeah apparently so

00:12:40.340 yeah definitely but obviously the wider point in this is just to say oh well if i get to call them

00:12:45.940 this thing then these people aren't entitled to political representation they're not people with

00:12:51.380 children and lives and dreams who have anxieties when they wake up every day and see what we're

00:12:56.620 doing to their country uh no no none of that they're just they they're not even worth listening

00:13:01.500 to well how's that working out for you eileen um you see here as well all of the the buddy

00:13:09.440 cheers mate no i'm glad i'm glad you did that uh so you can see all the here are weak yeah many

00:13:18.520 buses uh were put to a standstill in dublin as well but one of the things that i wanted to say

00:13:23.460 was that although this doesn't seem to have been an entirely coordinated movement like there's no

00:13:29.000 one leader of this and it's all like top down yeah there are definitely a lot of local groups

00:13:35.200 that have been organizing that have been collaborating with one another and actually

00:13:40.220 what we see as we go through this is a very very effective and i i would dare say precise plan

00:13:47.600 for how to actually um get what they want as i say more than what you get with brussels every time

00:13:54.300 where they just kind of like surround it for a bit and then uh go home which is that they're

00:13:58.740 actually hitting a lot of the the pressure points of the irish economy yes key key infrastructure

00:14:03.820 yeah they began to but again it's still a it's still really really peaceful yeah it's just more

00:14:08.860 occupying the thing about this is and i'm i don't know if you're going to get to it so i don't want

00:14:12.680 to sort of supersede but um some of the nonsense that the uh political classes were speaking about

00:14:19.160 this was just mental like oh it's not this it's not that it's wrong you can't do this you can't

00:14:24.280 because you can't ignore it that's why no we're happy for you to protest if it's just over there

00:14:29.280 and out the way yeah well it's not bothering us yeah we don't actually have to do anything about

00:14:33.580 it no no you want to shut up and listen yeah because this stuff again is still the mild approach

00:14:38.240 like it's insane to me that ireland within living memory had like paramilitary groups and things

00:14:47.760 like that and they hate notoriously hate authoritarianism and then the irish government

00:14:53.300 we're like you know what we're gonna do we're gonna be really authoritarian it's like what do

00:14:57.340 you think's gonna happen what do you actually think is gonna happen mental exactly um so we

00:15:06.980 can see here from this video i'll just play this one as well if them at white gate that's um one

00:15:13.140 of the refineries yeah so yeah sorry i was just about to say where one of the refineries are

00:15:17.360 and you can tell that i i mean i don't know about you i'd say that's a damn good turnout

00:15:21.420 to be honest with you it's pretty effective and you can see here them at the refinery again and

00:15:27.660 them being dragged by the authorities and they've been really violent as well the Garda have been

00:15:34.620 incredibly heavy-handed with them yeah like kicking them punching them pull them down

00:15:40.140 tasing them they've been really really really yeah yeah I've seen some uh and that's only led 1.00

00:15:45.760 further um only cause you know further fuel to sort of anger from the irish people absolutely

00:15:52.820 and uh as well as the fact that uh the government also decided to uh deploy the army in order to

00:15:59.400 remove a lot of the which definitely speaks to a government in control of the situation not

00:16:04.880 panicking at all well they did and then they also i can't remember what they call it but there's a

00:16:09.880 there's a special big truck that they've got and and it just they they just got it jammed

00:16:15.100 under like a bridge or something like that was it a paddy wagon no it was like it was some big

00:16:20.180 military vehicle but basically they drove it down somewhere and they just got it stuck it's like

00:16:24.880 yeah wow okay that's 6 000 strong military which the irish people laugh at the irish people i don't

00:16:30.720 want to speak on behalf of them but i know irish i've got some irish friends and they're like yeah

00:16:34.020 our military is a clown chair like why do we even have it what a waste of time everyone's just like

00:16:38.720 what are you doing here i can't think of one thing the military could do anyway uh police

00:16:44.300 It goes on to say in this article by Politico,

00:16:47.900 police pepper-strayed protesters Saturday

00:16:50.240 as soldiers deployed heavy lifting equipment

00:16:52.560 to remove trucks and tractors that had been blockading,

00:16:56.020 blocking access to Ireland's only oil refinery.

00:16:59.580 Irish security forces launched the crackdown

00:17:01.700 outside the Whitegate refinery in County Cork,

00:17:04.500 the country's primary hub for petrol and diesel.

00:17:06.780 After several hundred fuel stations nationwide ran dry

00:17:10.980 amid panic buying,

00:17:13.080 Farmers and haulers have been blocking tankers from entering or leaving the White Gate plan since Wednesday in protest against the surging price of motor fuel.

00:17:23.460 They're demanding that the government slash its taxes on fuel, which account for more than 60 percent of the retail price.

00:17:30.640 fuels for ireland which represents distributors and filling stations said about 600 of ireland's

00:17:37.780 1 500 gas stations nationwide are already run out of supplies so over a third of the petrol stations

00:17:44.400 right in ireland right well in three weeks when the when the when it actually filters through

00:17:49.760 you can see what that's going to look like right and so you can tell this is actually

00:17:54.060 working this is something that is absolutely unignorable that the government cannot simply

00:17:59.640 shy away from. The protesters have also been preventing fuel tankers from entering or leaving

00:18:05.380 two of the county's other key ports for importing oil in Galway and Foynes in County Limerick.

00:18:11.680 Reflecting that gridlock, a Dutch tanker carrying 6 million litres of fuel has been kept idling in

00:18:18.960 Galway Bay since Thursday because fuel tanks in the port there are already full. And so basically

00:18:26.640 the people have got control had control of the refinery and of the port of um sorry of uh Galway

00:18:34.600 and I've got footage of that here as well and you can see again just more

00:18:39.880 confrontations with uh the local authorities but just look at the palisades here and the actual

00:18:48.680 like medieval barricades you know from a modern baylor they've got going uh here it was really

00:18:55.600 impressive what they're all able to do because you're not you're not supposed to have societal

00:19:00.440 breakdown like this in a democracy i mean this sort of thing used to be very very common before

00:19:04.700 you have sort of had mass democracy yes and then the idea was is that you didn't have to do all of

00:19:08.900 that stuff because you just vote for what you know you'd elect someone to actually do what you want

00:19:12.760 yeah but they're not yes they're in hock to someone else so we just recreated the old sort

00:19:18.840 of aristocracy system and people are just going to go well voting doesn't matter i'm gonna have

00:19:22.820 go back to the old-fashioned way of doing things, which is to get kinetic.

00:19:26.240 And I suppose on that point as well about democracy,

00:19:30.240 I would have thought as well that the Irish would have been particularly loyal

00:19:34.900 to the idea of the consent of the Irish people

00:19:37.800 and sovereignty in their own homeland,

00:19:39.920 seeing as that is essentially, I mean, I don't want to dumb it down or anything,

00:19:43.980 but that is kind of the last 900 years of their existence.

00:19:47.340 Yes.

00:19:47.580 And so it is quite a shame to see the Irish government

00:19:51.380 just behaving like every other quizzling globalist government in Europe

00:19:56.360 when it comes to that because of the uniqueness of their story.

00:20:00.300 Not, of course, I'm suggesting that the fate that the globalists have

00:20:04.640 is fitting for any European nation at all.

00:20:08.100 So, yeah, the Irish government, as a result of this, have gone on to also...

00:20:13.780 I mean, sorry, lost my sources a bit there.

00:20:16.900 But you can see as well, it goes on to say how they've been blocking roads as well throughout the country as well.

00:20:23.540 Dublin Airport also issued a warning to travellers to allow for time to get to their airport.

00:20:28.500 And so this is basically, there's not really a part of the country this hasn't affected.

00:20:33.460 Yeah.

00:20:33.880 Because it has been so well planned out.

00:20:38.680 And so they've covered a lot of things, you know, that would have been weak spots for them.

00:20:44.080 So a very similar thing happened in Britain.

00:20:46.100 and I think it was over 2000 or 2001 against the Blair government

00:20:49.500 where people started blockading fuel refineries and stuff like that

00:20:52.480 because of high petrol prices.

00:20:54.640 And even back then, even under Blair, they said,

00:20:57.060 okay, well, we take the taxes off then.

00:20:59.140 And it's just fascinating that today governments don't do that.

00:21:02.140 They're just like, okay, well, we're just going to send in the boys

00:21:03.940 and just beat you then.

00:21:04.740 Well, that's easier than a reduction when your welfare bills

00:21:09.340 or your aid packages are so incredibly expensive.

00:21:14.120 Well, the debt is double what it was in 2000.

00:21:16.100 I mean, there's such a reluctance to reduce any taxes.

00:21:19.640 You know that.

00:21:21.120 You're preaching to the choir, aren't you?

00:21:23.660 It's easier just to send in people to beat the crap out of them,

00:21:26.420 try and quell them rather than accept the fact that

00:21:28.740 you have fundamentally destroyed everything.

00:21:32.200 And I suppose as well there's a reluctance to give concessions 0.96

00:21:36.500 to the Irish people when they know what radical energy

00:21:39.720 waits on the other side of them. 1.00

00:21:42.680 Better just to replace them.

00:21:44.240 Well, I agree.

00:21:45.140 So anyway, after all of this, and after, sorry, as I said as well, this actually ended up spreading to Northern Ireland as well.

00:21:54.220 And when a crisis in the Republic leads to solidarity in the North, that's how you know you have a bit of a success on your hands.

00:22:02.480 And so the Irish Prime Minister announces 505 million euros in fuel cost measures after the day of protest.

00:22:10.460 so yeah exactly as you say nathan it's just kind of like a bit gibson nate nate sorry i don't know

00:22:18.140 i even said i'm sorry may that never happen again samson delete it now uh anyway sorry uh the irish

00:22:25.880 government has announced uh this package in support for those quote-unquote most impacted

00:22:30.980 which again a bit vague but it's also nothing if you look into it it was like 10 cents yeah yeah

00:22:36.520 I mean, literally, it's nothing at all.

00:22:38.300 Yeah, it's...

00:22:39.200 It's an atrocious concession.

00:22:40.400 All this is going to do, if anything,

00:22:43.620 is buy the Irish government a bit more time,

00:22:46.640 especially when the protesters have made their intention clear

00:22:50.000 that this will just continue indefinitely so long as they can.

00:22:55.000 I don't know, have you also included the fact

00:22:56.880 that they narrowly escaped the government collapsing by eight votes?

00:23:01.100 Well, yes, that's what I was just about to round off with.

00:23:03.620 Sorry, I'm getting ahead, sorry.

00:23:04.560 That's all right. That's all right, Nate. No problem, Nate. Sorry about that, Nate.

00:23:07.620 Good. Good lad.

00:23:09.560 So we can see here as well thousands of Irish protesters outside the Irish government demanding a new one, which I think is a very sensible proposition, to be honest with you.

00:23:21.520 You can see them all here as well. And because essentially what happened was that because of the catastrophe that the protesters inflicted, there was a vote of no confidence in the government.

00:23:33.040 And as you say, unfortunately, they did seem to clinch it and they did have the numbers.

00:23:39.320 I think it was only eight, wasn't it?

00:23:41.040 It was only eight.

00:23:42.100 The thing is, what people need to remember is protesting is an extension of the democratic process.

00:23:47.260 If the government's not listening to you, then yeah, get together and protest.

00:23:52.140 Like grind everything to a halt. Absolutely, 100%. Why?

00:23:54.740 Like why not? You're just going to constantly be ignored.

00:23:57.780 Well, organise yourselves in a way by which you cannot be ignored at that point.

00:24:01.280 They will also be postponing an increase on the carbon tax and will be announcing a fuel subsidy scheme for farmers and fisheries.

00:24:09.820 Martin said groups with a self-declared mandate have imposed blockades.

00:24:15.540 They have explicitly rejected the right of democratic representative groups to speak for them.

00:24:21.640 You see, that's the thing. You didn't go through the proper channels.

00:24:25.380 Managerialism.

00:24:26.060 Yeah.

00:24:26.380 How?

00:24:26.780 but it's just so it's like oh that this person's voice doesn't come from the official channel from

00:24:33.000 this recognized institution so therefore it's just null and void i'm like sorry it doesn't

00:24:38.620 work like that these are still people whose vote these are still livelihoods that you're ruining

00:24:43.240 yeah and they and they matter no less than someone because they're a part of some

00:24:47.620 representative group but also in in that you just read that subsidies so still people's tax money

00:24:54.780 yeah so no no just cut the goddamn tax how about you just do that find something to stop funding

00:25:00.680 yeah don't don't subsidize i.e giving more of people's taxes away which will then still have

00:25:06.720 to come from them anyway it's not appropriate it's not what they asked for yeah i'm all the

00:25:12.160 way with this yeah i think it's brilliant this was a great quote as well nobody has the right

00:25:16.240 to blockade our country yes they do it's their country right it's their country they actually

00:25:22.440 do yeah yeah a hundred percent they do also that's not true england has the right to blockade now

00:25:27.460 uh the support package will see as you say a reduction on excise duties and this will be a

00:25:35.640 10 reduction per liter which as you say is really not going to stave off any of this whatsoever

00:25:42.600 and the protests of protesters have made it very clear that they intend to keep this up until they

00:25:48.860 have satisfaction and even though uh garda and uh the army did come in and basically uproot the

00:25:56.780 blockades that they had of the port and the refinery uh there's no reason to think why once

00:26:02.140 they've not been moved out again the same thing isn't going to happen on monday this is kind of

00:26:07.120 unverified this is just from um a report that got handed to me because i've been covering some of

00:26:11.360 this stuff um apparently but a certain amount of the garda just called in sick on monday because

00:26:17.260 they were like yeah nah like this is because the anger is palpable like you want to watch

00:26:22.160 they're being called traitors oh they're worse than that like way worse than that it you can see

00:26:27.200 they're like it's that you're on the precipice of a total um collapse at that point and yeah a whole

00:26:35.120 a whole group of them apparently just called in sick they were like no yeah and this is yeah and

00:26:40.780 this goes right to the government itself where people just don't want to be seen to be complicit

00:26:45.900 with what the government are doing.

00:26:48.240 And so the government is hemorrhaging support and credibility.

00:26:52.360 And, you know, for all of the Irish people who just went out there

00:26:55.760 and did peacefully protest and did what was within your power

00:26:59.900 to effect this change, I really commend you for it

00:27:02.580 because it seems like, for the most part, it was very sensible,

00:27:05.520 it was tactically sound, and, yeah, impressive stuff, Ireland.

00:27:11.280 Well played.

00:27:12.660 Right.

00:27:13.420 Okay.

00:27:14.920 Sigil Stone says,

00:27:15.900 General Motors once developed a gas turbine engine that could run on anything, even alcohol.

00:27:21.780 The president of Mexico drove it fueled by tequila.

00:27:24.860 Bet that would be real handy for Ireland right now.

00:27:27.860 Well, if it was powered on Guinness, perhaps, yes. 1.00

00:27:32.380 Ocador says, where was this authority when the new Irish were causing mischief? 1.00

00:27:37.760 Well, obviously, the government protects them. 1.00

00:27:40.020 It's actually the only constituency in Ireland they actually care about.

00:27:44.060 He also says, does this mean Rosie O'Donnell will come back to the US

00:27:47.660 because the Irish are acting?

00:27:50.220 I mean, maybe I don't follow up with her.

00:27:52.500 I didn't even know she was in Ireland.

00:27:54.180 Yeah, because she fell out with Trump.

00:27:56.460 Genuinely.

00:27:57.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:57.860 Fell out with Trump.

00:27:58.500 That was one of the OG fallouts, wasn't it?

00:28:01.060 And Captain Hook, JL for $5, thank you, says,

00:28:05.460 also keep in mind the massive fuel taxes that exist in Ireland.

00:28:09.320 Many protesters at the beginning were simply asking for a lowering of taxes

00:28:12.740 slightly given the current taxes yeah but it's a really reasonable request it was so reasonable

00:28:19.640 and they were just like no so they're just like well trunch in time we're gonna go mental then

00:28:26.040 yeah like sod you i guess oh is it my turn yeah all right then they tell us about this this chap

00:28:32.140 it sounds like a good news story yes all right so i normally bring a black pill i have brought

00:28:36.500 something rather funny today just by by happens chance all right this this is just this is just

00:28:41.280 the situation so a genetic dead end okay a walking pile of detritus a facsimile molded out of

00:28:52.580 organic matter i've seen the kind of excrement that is johnny so smally well johnny somali

00:29:01.680 real name ramsey khalid ishmael uh has been jailed or will be jailed he's been sentenced

00:29:07.920 to six months

00:29:10.060 we'll get to some of that

00:29:13.200 six months

00:29:14.520 in South Korea

00:29:16.120 with hard labour

00:29:18.380 and

00:29:19.660 he's on the sex offenders

00:29:22.780 registry

00:29:23.580 nice

00:29:26.560 so if you don't know who Johnny

00:29:30.020 so small is

00:29:31.080 we're going to have a look at it

00:29:33.600 I can't say I'm massively enamoured

00:29:35.940 with having to introduce you to

00:29:37.280 who uh johnny somali is because he is like i said a uh genetic dead end physiognomy on him

00:29:44.060 honestly outrageous um so you know i can't say i'm massively enamored with showing you this guy

00:29:50.340 but he's basically who he is is an american streamer that he's got a very american name

00:29:58.860 yeah yeah minnesotan almost you know one might say um basically his whole shtick is just to go

00:30:06.060 to various countries and be as obnoxious as possible i bet the wolf that yeah yeah yeah

00:30:12.140 basically yeah yeah so and is he the only one of his kind who does this or

00:30:16.580 one of his kind or being he's not actually maybe i don't know he's actually not somalian believe

00:30:23.640 it or not oh really yeah he just like he's a cultural appropriator too yeah i i don't you'll

00:30:29.700 see he doesn't care about culture uh but basically yeah so his whole shtick is i'm going to go to

00:30:34.800 various countries and just be as obnoxious as possible so he did it in japan this is where he

00:30:40.160 first sort of rose to prominence in japan he was walking around on like the underground station

00:30:45.340 the tube stations and things and going up to people and going uh hiroshima nagasaki you know

00:30:51.040 we're going to do it again i'm going to do it you know all this kind of stuff and it's just the most

00:30:54.280 obnoxious crap you've ever seen in your life now to their somewhat discredit and i like the 0.86

00:31:00.560 japanese people but to their discredit all they did was find him and deport him 0.68

00:31:04.800 like permanently like he's banned from the country i can't remember if it's this happened

00:31:09.820 quite a while ago it was like two two odd years ago now maybe a little bit longer so i can't

00:31:13.380 remember um i don't think it was a permanent ban i know it was fined and he was you know

00:31:17.940 deported from the country um but i would have liked to have seen more yeah you know i would 0.52

00:31:23.340 have liked to have seen more then he went to israel and uh caused a whole nuisance there

00:31:28.500 like he got punched up um and was just generally a nuisance so then he left he left kind of off

00:31:34.080 his own volition there and he's doing this for tiktok likes or something for like youtube and

00:31:39.740 kick right and all that kind of stuff and then he went to south korea and this is where this is

00:31:46.580 where the story uh gets interesting all right south koreans yep mate you don't mess around

00:31:54.040 south koreans don't mess around so here's i've got some videos of some of his most obnoxious

00:31:59.820 things right so this is probably one of the first things that um drove people to get really annoyed

00:32:05.280 with them for so this is the these are the statues of peace for the comfort women right comfort women

00:32:11.900 statues so for those that don't know just real real quick um japanese empire sort of imperialist 0.97

00:32:18.120 they went to south korea and they had some sex slaves basically yeah pretty nasty stuff obviously

00:32:22.560 yeah uh and south korea has some statues to commemorate that awful atrocity and it is an

00:32:28.760 awful atrocity and he decided it would be appropriate to do this is uh pretty mental

00:32:36.580 all right okay so goes up kisses it

00:32:47.060 and then starts where is it and then comes back to another one and then starts doing this

00:32:56.340 I mean, he is just the most obnoxious, gigantic turd you've ever seen in your life.

00:33:05.440 Brilliant.

00:33:06.760 Not one tangible benefit to humanity. 1.00

00:33:09.800 Yeah, I mean, he's a dysgenic freak. 1.00

00:33:11.700 Like I said, genetic dead end, right? 0.99

00:33:13.180 You see all this.

00:33:13.780 Look at him.

00:33:14.280 Yeah.

00:33:14.440 Absolute piece of crap.

00:33:16.200 So there was that, right?

00:33:17.880 So that's one of the things that he did.

00:33:20.340 This one, I am sorry to show you this.

00:33:23.600 this is perhaps

00:33:24.140 it's up there

00:33:25.900 with one of the most

00:33:26.600 annoying things

00:33:27.140 you'll see in your life

00:33:28.060 you ever

00:33:28.640 sort of just come across

00:33:30.540 someone you're like

00:33:31.100 I'd really like 0.99

00:33:32.300 to batter you in the face

00:33:33.820 like I'd really like 1.00

00:33:34.960 to beat the living 0.61

00:33:36.480 crap out of you

00:33:37.480 I'm familiar with the feeling

00:33:38.660 yeah

00:33:39.020 there's very few people

00:33:40.620 that cause that

00:33:41.300 sort of tangible

00:33:42.160 burning desire

00:33:43.940 within you

00:33:44.660 to

00:33:45.700 flatten them

00:33:47.240 this guy 0.92

00:33:50.220 he's got it

00:33:53.600 So this is, this is in a 7-Eleven.

00:33:56.720 Just a, yeah, yeah.

00:33:58.100 And watch what he's doing.

00:34:01.380 I can't play it because there's loud, loud, loud music.

00:34:05.320 Oh, there's always loud music.

00:34:06.860 Oh, yeah, of course.

00:34:07.420 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:07.960 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:08.560 Third world-isms.

00:34:09.620 Yes. 1.00

00:34:10.980 And then nice, nice old lady's like, no, no, please don't drink. 1.00

00:34:14.360 Please don't drink. 0.97

00:34:17.040 No, no, you can't, no, you can't do that.

00:34:18.720 You know, you're not allowed.

00:34:21.580 Yeah.

00:34:22.220 Okay.

00:34:23.600 It's generally being a nuisance. 1.00

00:34:25.960 This woman just has an ordinary job. 1.00

00:34:28.840 And he's just... 0.67

00:34:30.720 Watch.

00:34:37.440 Oh, no, guess worse.

00:34:39.020 It's making me quite hateful.

00:34:41.280 You want to...

00:34:43.460 What are you doing? 1.00

00:34:48.280 Just making a mess for that old woman to have to clean. 1.00

00:34:50.800 Oh, right, here we go. 1.00

00:34:51.660 Oh, my God.

00:34:53.600 yeah

00:34:54.900 so it just goes on like this

00:34:58.320 to be honest

00:34:58.760 there's a little bit more

00:34:59.900 we'll keep watching it

00:35:00.580 to be honest

00:35:00.940 we don't need to just jail him

00:35:02.060 we need to jail every one of his subscribers as well

00:35:04.480 oh his subscribers are

00:35:06.520 disgusting

00:35:07.220 he's a detritus as well

00:35:09.140 well you'd have to be

00:35:10.040 to find this appealing wouldn't you

00:35:11.480 yeah yeah

00:35:12.340 I don't really see

00:35:13.760 how this is entertaining

00:35:15.360 to be honest

00:35:15.920 and if you do

00:35:16.940 you've got problems

00:35:17.580 it's like that guy from 0.99

00:35:18.540 who was going around London

00:35:20.140 what was his name

00:35:20.660 is he or whatever

00:35:21.520 yeah

00:35:21.900 he's back now

00:35:23.420 doing the same stuff

00:35:24.060 oh I bet he is

00:35:24.880 oh god

00:35:25.280 somehow I never thought

00:35:27.180 he was going to turn

00:35:27.820 his life around

00:35:28.440 and he's still shouting

00:35:29.120 at people

00:35:29.640 yeah

00:35:30.120 literally just shouting

00:35:31.080 I don't want to play it

00:35:32.200 because it's loud music

00:35:32.800 and stuff

00:35:33.080 but he's just

00:35:33.540 look

00:35:33.820 I mean you can get

00:35:35.180 the flavour of it

00:35:35.820 without even

00:35:36.440 any noise

00:35:37.680 he is just a piece of crap

00:35:39.940 someone 0.65

00:35:40.360 one person in there

00:35:41.840 you're just waiting

00:35:42.600 for them to

00:35:43.360 snap

00:35:44.220 yeah

00:35:45.480 and then

00:35:46.540 this one

00:35:47.360 so this was another

00:35:49.100 one that he did

00:35:49.800 this is loud music just super super loud music on a on a tube or no bus sorry

00:35:59.600 and then and then people start having to go at him i don't know if i can play this one

00:36:04.020 no it's still loud music i don't suppose he's got any mozart on his playlist has he but you

00:36:09.320 can see people had enough and they got up yeah oh so but this was spiraling because and then

00:36:17.880 it began going around south korea people were like this is this this guy right yeah this guy

00:36:22.700 started getting around yeah this guy's he's doing stuff basically and it just sort of keeps going

00:36:27.180 keeps going keeps going i'm just giving you a sort of flavor of who he is and what he was doing um

00:36:32.940 and then i think we can actually play this one in its entirety with sound i think you guys will

00:36:36.920 quite enjoy this one have a trust me johnny's go to johnny's room we're gonna have a good time

00:36:43.880 Whoa!

00:36:45.120 Great night.

00:36:46.200 Sorry, if you didn't quite catch it, 1.00

00:36:47.540 that's Johnny Somali getting decked. 0.99

00:36:49.780 Oh. 1.00

00:36:51.500 Huzzah!

00:36:52.120 Play it again.

00:36:52.980 Yeah.

00:36:53.440 Sorry.

00:36:53.960 The key bit.

00:36:54.420 I should have pre-warned you.

00:36:56.000 Yeah.

00:36:57.480 Trust me.

00:36:58.360 Go to Johnny's room.

00:37:00.120 We're going to have a good time.

00:37:01.580 Whoa!

00:37:02.460 Yes!

00:37:03.080 Great night.

00:37:03.680 Go to Johnny's room.

00:37:04.420 We're going to have a good time.

00:37:05.120 And again.

00:37:06.060 From his own angle.

00:37:09.580 So literally, the guy just walked up.

00:37:12.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:12.540 it just walks off like yeah no we've had enough of you now i mean on the other hand good for good

00:37:17.080 for south korea but this thing isn't just a common everyday occurrence where you'd have to like be

00:37:22.160 decking 40 or 50 people a day yeah yeah yeah so people just ended up having enough so he sort of

00:37:28.340 came back a little bit and so yeah whatever um and there was another one i actually couldn't find it

00:37:34.000 um not on um x anyway but there was another one where an ex marine a south korean marine

00:37:40.980 again just decked him just beat the living crap out of him in the street and he ended up like all

00:37:45.060 bloodied and bruised and stuff well i imagine if you're a south korean marine you then decide to

00:37:50.500 serve your country so men like him yeah you'll be walking about in it and this and so i mean there

00:37:57.280 are so many videos right there's even ones of him in the street in what looks like a nappy or

00:38:03.060 something like this drunk walking around being loud and obnoxious in the middle of a road there

00:38:08.280 are so avant-garde art piece about how like he doesn't have for his age he doesn't have the

00:38:13.600 brain cells for that but it just kept going and going and going and going and going there's so

00:38:17.760 much there are so many videos so i just want to give you a flavor of who he was um so anyway

00:38:23.440 just just thought this was quite comical so this was uh this was quite a little this was quite a

00:38:29.860 while ago as his trial began all right because he got you know sent it was a up in front of a judge

00:38:37.200 i know for a fact i'm not gonna go to jail not one day in jail i'm gonna laugh my ass off when 0.85

00:38:43.480 all these motherfuckers are saying i'm going for 30 years 20 years five years 10 years bro i'm 0.91

00:38:48.600 telling you i'm not even gonna do one day bro they're gonna give me a fine they're gonna say 0.95

00:38:51.220 don't come back to korea you're huh how's that working out mate johnny somali guilty of all

00:38:59.960 charges sentenced to six months and 20 days prison with labor no suspended sentence he will 0.71

00:39:08.740 be going to a specialized labor prison this is not a foreigner prison he's going to be around 0.79

00:39:13.460 south koreans no foreigners there oh i'm sure they'll get on so well yeah i wonder what happens 0.71

00:39:20.640 if he pulls his shit in a south korean jail yeah irritating people he's going to be wrecked um and 0.89

00:39:27.100 also he's on the sex offender register as well so just want to um watch this hey guys we're right

00:39:34.080 outside the seoul courthouse and johnny somali has just been sentenced to what is it six months

00:39:40.440 and 20 days of prison with labor yes sir he has sex offender status so he can be nowhere near

00:39:48.240 women children anything like that during the pendency of five years in korea all right so

00:39:54.140 while this might seem like justice is served, what are the next steps? The next steps is right 1.00

00:39:59.260 now he was brought out of the courtroom. All his possessions were taken. He came with a full

00:40:03.340 backpack just like me, but all those possessions were taken. His phones were taken. He's handcuffed,

00:40:08.200 detained here. He'll be taken to the prison at some point in the future, and he'll go to that

00:40:13.340 prison. A temporary prison will decide where to send him, and then they're going to send him to

00:40:16.780 a specialized labor prison. He will not be going to the foreigner-only prison, but a specialized 0.69

00:40:21.460 one for prison labor so so it's going to be a lot of koreans with him right only koreans 0.95

00:40:26.520 he's going to have to practice that korean because that's all he's speaking in yes sir

00:40:32.340 all right so then is there i thought two of them had a really tasteful level of smugness about them 0.96

00:40:38.380 yeah yeah well so i'm sharing it the the chap on the right um his legal mindset he's a very good

00:40:44.780 youtuber actually does has been covering this quite a lot um good chap so and just a little

00:40:49.360 bit more here a chance that he's going to appeal this decision yeah so both the prosecutor and the

00:40:54.360 defendant can appeal in this case there is a reason for both to appeal because the prosecutor

00:41:00.700 can say hey that the punishment wasn't enough however johnny can also say hey this was not

00:41:06.700 an appropriate sentence so both of them have seven days to appeal so we'll see within the seven days

00:41:11.080 who files an appeal the prosecutor or johnny but either way at least we can say johnny somali was

00:41:16.900 wrong that he won't get one day in prison yes sir he thought he thought he could play games in

00:41:21.200 korea and he found out he played stupid games he won stupid prices i like it when people find out

00:41:29.200 what a wonderful heartwarming story isn't it today it's good i know and i mean well done to 0.59

00:41:37.480 south korea because imagine if we had done that starting in the 70s when the rape gangs first

00:41:42.860 began yeah what if it was like before they even got up to rape gangs it was just public misdemeanor

00:41:49.080 okay six months hard labor yeah just do that every single what would american cities look like today

00:41:54.860 if every time they had one of these individuals who who just is just going around being obnoxious

00:42:01.820 permanently six months labor yeah with the society that the west could be oh yeah completely different

00:42:08.480 this is the thing consequences of actions it's really important to have consequences to your

00:42:12.520 actions otherwise no lesson learned i mean prison generally speaking doesn't rehabilitate not in its

00:42:16.920 current format it just doesn't rehabilitation doesn't work re-offending is high it's huge

00:42:22.160 so you have to you know there has to be some level of yeah uh seriousness to the you know

00:42:28.240 the only way this story could get any better now is if if johnny somali appeals and then make it

00:42:33.580 18 months yeah that would be good well he was the idea was was that the thinking um was he was close

00:42:39.740 to get in like minimum of three years so i hope the prosecutor appeals and says this this is not

00:42:45.220 long enough at all well given that mr somali thought he wasn't going to get a day i see it

00:42:49.980 very unlikely that he's going to appeal it for risk of getting more but uh yeah but he is stupid 0.52

00:42:56.040 he is yes yeah yeah um and so there was i mean even his fans have been sending him death threats 0.55

00:43:02.840 legal mindset for covering this stuff like mad really yeah yeah crazy crazy crazy stuff and i

00:43:08.600 just want to go through that there was a little bit more down here um because he he did like a

00:43:13.460 play-by-play of how he appeared um so here it is uh so john somali trial update the prosecutor has

00:43:23.960 arrived in the johnny somali courtroom along with judicial staff minus the judge roughly 40 people

00:43:31.160 pack the room with many standing or sitting on the floor awaiting the sentencing multiple major

00:43:35.920 career media journalists in attendance taking notes cameras outside the courthouse filmed both

00:43:40.720 the arrival of johnny somali and his potential trip onto the prison bus for post-trial detainment

00:43:45.580 ramzi khalid ishmael has been called to the stand he is alone not wearing any funny religious garb

00:43:52.100 without any support in the audience because again this trial has been ongoing for quite a while

00:43:56.200 and he's turned up like he's insulted the judge on streams like whilst it was going on he's been

00:44:03.140 He's been mad.

00:44:04.660 He's an exercise in, like, everything you just wouldn't do.

00:44:09.460 And he's like, yeah, I don't care.

00:44:10.720 The thing is you say that.

00:44:11.440 I don't care at all.

00:44:12.280 But this is young people's mindset.

00:44:14.280 Because there's no consequence.

00:44:14.900 Western society has taught people like this that they can get away with it forever.

00:44:19.340 Which is how you end up with events like what we had in Clapham.

00:44:22.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:23.100 No consequences of actions at all. 0.54

00:44:25.660 Ramzi Khalid Ismail has been found guilty of all the charges, including the deep fakes.

00:44:30.420 That's how he's on the sex offender register. 0.80

00:44:31.900 because he did some deep fakes of another a korean streamer called bong bong 0.85

00:44:36.540 um i suppose it is quite easy to be found guilty when your entire shtick is

00:44:42.460 recording yourself on camera doing these things yeah this is it seemed really it was

00:44:47.320 like what were you thinking what um so the so the judge did mention the settlement with young man

00:44:56.340 and the fact that bong bong the korean streamer did not feel deep shame over the incident they

00:45:00.860 factored in the travel ban imposed on johnny somali because he's been he was basically kept

00:45:05.460 in south korea he wasn't allowed to leave they took his passport oh yeah well um so so they're

00:45:12.780 factoring that into it a little bit um and they said yeah that is disadvantage in his favor uh

00:45:17.220 but they also factor in the youtube activities and the randomly chosen victims as over balancing

00:45:22.000 the other factors and said he disrespected the law and order of this country as well as the

00:45:27.440 possibility uh for repeating of such crimes by others so to make an example which makes perfect

00:45:33.320 sense i mean yeah you're not going to want to go there and do this now are you let's be honest

00:45:37.260 uh johnny somali is now being handcuffed having all his possessions taken and removed from the

00:45:41.740 courtroom he shows no remorse and absolutely no comments other than a lie that he's currently

00:45:46.200 attending arizona state university is it the judge was like is there any other things to consider and 0.84

00:45:51.980 he was like i'm still a uni student it's like no you're not everyone knows you're not you idiot

00:45:56.080 how the hell would he have even ever gotten to uni well american unis um the judge finally asked 0.55

00:46:02.080 johnny somali for any reason why he shouldn't go to prison and he said i have family back home

00:46:07.200 i need i need the chance to change my life as a young person and a second chance to do better

00:46:14.160 and he also added throughout the court proceedings i have not done any acts to offend anyone yes he

00:46:19.360 has that's why you're here he lit but through the court court proceedings he literally has

00:46:25.060 he videoed himself doing things that was offending people thing is that excuse would work on any

00:46:31.860 western judge yeah yes yeah yeah they'd probably give him money yes like on your way man i'll pay

00:46:37.100 for your flight um oh and i'm gay yeah yeah yeah whatever um so yeah which shows i learned a lesson

00:46:43.920 this is of course a lie as he was documented committing several crimes during the course of

00:46:48.280 the trial the judge simply listened and said are you finished i like this judge so funny um so i

00:47:00.440 think what were the charges uh guilty of all charges he was arrested several times south

00:47:06.380 korea um and it's basically accused of disrupting public peace uh which is true distributing uh

00:47:13.780 deepfake videos and getting in the way of businesses basically like obstructing businesses

00:47:17.460 all of which he documented himself so it was very cut and dry so when i said that i would never watch

00:47:24.480 his stuff i've changed my mind if he wants to carry on making streams when he's in prison

00:47:31.000 now i'm interested in watching yeah yeah that would be very fun yeah yeah and um just a quick

00:47:38.420 one tokyo weekender reported on it everyone's been reporting on it i just find it funny uh and

00:47:43.980 again uh major you know south korean sort of media entities are reporting on it and just going yep

00:47:49.620 good brilliant happy about this look at piece of crap guy every paper in the east is rejoicing

00:47:56.680 right now yeah and so they got a timeline of it kissing the statue of peace um mentions the

00:48:02.300 statue again forming a sex act uh insults convenience store employee playing loud music

00:48:08.240 creating a mess which i showed ishmael is punched by an unknown assailant during a live stream the

00:48:13.660 one i showed you um uh ishmael is assaulted again by vigilante youtubers because they literally

00:48:20.200 they were like there was like a bounty on his head going around brilliant absolute glorious 0.96

00:48:24.640 well one of the things i've always really admired about the koreans is is their legendary racism 1.00

00:48:29.860 yeah i mean i'm not saying that's i mean it was clearly the content of his character that got 0.99

00:48:34.080 into trouble here than anything else but but they are they are a bit like a factor i've often thought

00:48:38.360 you know how like i don't know it doesn't happen so much but 10 years ago or so you'd have all

00:48:42.120 these people who'd want to go to india to study spiritualism i kind of want to go to south korea

00:48:46.680 to study racism yeah it'd be good wouldn't it just absorb it learn yes learn how to up your game

00:48:52.300 um so yeah so vigilante youtubers i imagine you'd have far more cooperation from the locals than he

00:48:58.380 had as well yes yeah uh then his youtube channel was deleted uh after he streamed uh prono uh and

00:49:06.540 then police say ishmael was reported for alleged assault and uh drug use uh and then there's just

00:49:12.660 more stuff what was very very good about the south koreans in this situation right was that

00:49:17.360 the marine that decked him um because obviously he you know the police were like we can't obviously

00:49:23.920 do that like we're gonna have to charge you now you know uh there was a whip around and people

00:49:29.280 just paid for his legal fees

00:49:30.580 but I mean look

00:49:35.760 it just goes on

00:49:36.440 look the amount of stuff

00:49:37.520 that this guy has done

00:49:38.260 loads and loads and loads of it

00:49:39.380 but there you go 1.00

00:49:40.080 a white pill ladies and gentlemen

00:49:41.620 wonderful

00:49:42.000 thanks for that mate

00:49:43.860 that was damn good news

00:49:44.940 you're welcome

00:49:45.500 I enjoyed that immensely

00:49:47.220 Dwight Power says 1.00

00:49:51.040 fingers crossed that Somali's cellmate 1.00

00:49:52.620 is six foot jacked 1.00

00:49:54.860 and is homosexually inclined

00:49:58.700 i don't i don't any south koreans six foot maybe one or two of them

00:50:04.340 um maybe it'd be an act of providence or chig door i feel any streamer in prison should be

00:50:11.500 allowed to continue streaming but the prison gets all the proceeds yeah fair just live stream the 0.88

00:50:18.360 cctv footage oh god it's so sweet honestly it's just it is it's that comeuppance that you're like

00:50:25.160 you want all the time

00:50:27.780 and you just never get

00:50:28.660 in Western society

00:50:29.660 finally

00:50:30.720 finally

00:50:31.920 he's got his comeuppance

00:50:32.880 you're like

00:50:33.200 yes

00:50:34.100 love it

00:50:35.440 so I've decided

00:50:37.680 that things are

00:50:39.020 a little bit unfair

00:50:39.840 for young people

00:50:40.700 you're a young person

00:50:42.680 aren't you

00:50:43.060 yeah relatively

00:50:44.080 it's very unfair on you

00:50:45.580 I don't like it

00:50:46.340 it does feel unfair

00:50:47.240 yes

00:50:47.640 I mean

00:50:48.340 this is the kind of thing

00:50:49.400 I'm pointing to

00:50:50.460 so

00:50:50.960 you know

00:50:51.860 proportion of

00:50:53.080 30 year olds

00:50:54.480 who are both

00:50:55.020 married and home owners i'm neither well yes and well if you go back to 1950

00:51:01.240 you'd have a better than 50 50 chance that you would be

00:51:04.740 i'm neither ladies

00:51:08.940 he's laying some bait here all right come on now no no i'm trying to get them to give me a house

00:51:15.800 yes oh well i mean ladies ladies but you can see i mean especially a lady with a house 0.97

00:51:23.680 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:24.180 That would be, I mean, not that there's going to be many. 0.95

00:51:25.860 Ladies, houses, all ages with houses. 0.71

00:51:28.680 Yes. 0.94

00:51:29.540 Either one.

00:51:30.420 Quids in.

00:51:30.980 But you can see it's just fallen off a cliff, isn't it?

00:51:33.140 So what would be that?

00:51:33.740 Something happened in 1990, didn't it?

00:51:36.480 Tom Harwood might know something about that.

00:51:38.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:39.340 Yeah, I mean, a steady decline.

00:51:42.440 And, you know.

00:51:43.380 Steady?

00:51:43.880 I mean, this.

00:51:45.040 I mean, that's like some down-to-swallow racing, isn't it?

00:51:47.380 Yeah.

00:51:49.140 It's pretty dire.

00:51:50.060 I mean, clearly this is not a slight change of preferences or anything.

00:51:55.080 This is a systematic failure.

00:51:56.920 This is proper collapse of a system.

00:52:00.200 And it kind of leads me to ask the question,

00:52:01.620 well, what are we optimising for as a country?

00:52:04.340 Because quite clearly it isn't this.

00:52:07.140 I don't know whether it's GDP as a whole.

00:52:09.580 It's certainly not GDP per head.

00:52:11.120 Maybe it's GDP as a whole.

00:52:12.320 Maybe it's tying up the loose ends of all international treaties

00:52:16.480 or whatever it is.

00:52:17.860 but clearly whatever we're optimising for is not this

00:52:21.760 and that is pretty bad.

00:52:23.220 I imagine we're just optimising the path

00:52:25.480 to all of the consolidated digital ID.

00:52:29.700 Or control, maybe.

00:52:31.060 Just more and more control.

00:52:33.160 And of course you can see the effect

00:52:35.240 that something like this is going to have on the birth rate.

00:52:39.560 Because if you push back this age further and further

00:52:43.080 which people get married and they get homes,

00:52:44.800 well you know you don't you don't need people to want to have fewer children you just need them to

00:52:51.480 run out of time you just need to delay them and almost everybody i know they have their first kid

00:52:56.520 in like the mid to late 30s as opposed to their mid 20s sure and so they have one or two kids

00:53:03.720 and then we wonder why we can't afford the bloody triple lock pensions and all the rest of it

00:53:08.500 um what have i got oh yeah so this so this this table is something i wanted to highlight

00:53:13.420 so this is um the um price of this mouse right so this is the uh price um of the um median home

00:53:25.480 um uh the median uh first-time buyer's home and the median earnings going back to 1995

00:53:33.240 so as you can see you know back in 1995 um a first-time buyer was looking to find three and

00:53:39.820 a half times their salary at the median in order to buy a home um and as that sort of ticked up so

00:53:46.940 so 10 years later you're now at five times so the early 2000s sort of really changed and then

00:53:52.700 this kind of became a the assumption of which the whole economy works house prices are going up

00:53:59.820 therefore house prices will go up and therefore this is so this is the whole i mean i remember

00:54:03.840 this era this is when um if you if you're watching daytime tv in fact not even daytime tv like just

00:54:10.100 just tv in general like every other show was like following around somebody who's bought a house

00:54:15.300 or escaped to the country yeah it was all of it and i think you still get that and i haven't

00:54:20.580 watched tv in so long but i'm sure people who could who watch tv can tell me and and there

00:54:25.140 was these whole series of things where they go in like but they'd buy a house and then they'd

00:54:28.960 They'd follow them doing it up

00:54:30.300 and then selling it for this profit later on.

00:54:32.460 What they never realised with any of this

00:54:33.960 is if they just bought the house,

00:54:36.560 took a dump in the middle

00:54:37.660 and then left it for six months,

00:54:39.400 they would still make a greater markup

00:54:41.500 than they had wasting all their money on the do-up

00:54:43.860 because house prices were just going up all the time.

00:54:46.520 And the reason house prices were going up all the time

00:54:48.480 is because more money was being pumped into the system.

00:54:50.840 The multiple that people were prepared to pay was going up

00:54:53.380 or bank lending rules were going up.

00:54:55.420 Until you get to the point down here

00:54:56.960 where it's it's seven times um salary for the first time buyer at this point i got i got two

00:55:04.960 things to say about that yeah go on hit all the boomers that say say we'll just don't have a

00:55:09.100 coffee yes just pack your lunches sorry mate eight times eight times average multiple shut up yes

00:55:15.420 shut up seriously shut up but secondly it's nice to see it effectively flatlining 0.75

00:55:20.840 and actually now i don't know if you've i don't know if you i don't know this might be where i'm 0.79

00:55:25.920 going with this yes but it has started to actually decline now like in london yes it's now declining

00:55:30.920 like it's beginning to fall apart well i mean there is an angle on that you see because and

00:55:36.940 i've put some notes at the bottom here thing is when you look at this seven times um the average

00:55:41.580 earning i then sort of made the note well mortgages do actually cap out about four and a half times

00:55:48.120 income yeah so if it's seven times the average and the cap is 4.5 what's happening well it just

00:55:55.680 means that anyone who's at the median and below isn't buying basically the cohort people that

00:56:00.800 can buy you now need to be in the top sort of 10 20 percent of first-time buyers in order to well

00:56:06.400 people of the first-time buyer age in order to get into it so what are you doing if you if if

00:56:11.960 it's up at seven you've capped at four and a half how do you close that loop the only way you get

00:56:17.580 there is that because affordability has hit a ceiling volume collapses that's what happens

00:56:23.600 volume has collapsed um there has been various attempts to try and um you know humiliate this

00:56:30.300 situation but of course they don't do it by cutting anything they don't do it by anything

00:56:34.540 taking away no they just add a subsidy yeah oh yeah more of my tax yes brilliant so what does

00:56:39.720 that just like what they did with islands exactly the same thing they just it's this myopic tunnel

00:56:45.020 vision yes we can only ever increase the state it has to be a state so what happens of course

00:56:50.520 oh will it will it benefits higher earners of course it does because higher earners can now

00:56:54.620 bid against each other more because they've also got a subsidy yeah so you're just making the whole

00:56:59.200 situation first and this is where um i think this is what you were what you were indicating

00:57:04.500 uh nate so um yeah the death of the one bed flat how the first rung of the product uh property

00:57:11.440 ladder has collapsed with sellers now facing big losses london has been quite i've been watching it

00:57:17.920 And it's, I mean, I'm glad, to be fair, I'm glad.

00:57:20.800 London prices should not be what they are, remotely, 1.00

00:57:23.400 especially not when you've got an abundance of third worlders there. 1.00

00:57:26.200 Sorry. 1.00

00:57:27.200 It's absurd.

00:57:28.060 It's absolutely ridiculous.

00:57:29.360 Yeah.

00:57:29.700 I love watching this.

00:57:31.420 I mean, I don't like it on a whole, because economically speaking,

00:57:34.180 if it starts to collapse in the capital, yeah, we've got a bit of a problem.

00:57:37.680 Well, it's more than that, though.

00:57:40.180 It's pretty broad.

00:57:41.180 I mean, it's worse than the capital, but it's happening everywhere.

00:57:44.220 I mean, I'll just pick out some bits from this.

00:57:45.900 so one bed flats the most unloved home in britain right now um blah blah blah data data

00:57:52.380 um it shows 36 of one bedroom apartments are now selling for less than the owner paid for them

00:57:58.480 which is mad isn't it that is that is insane because it's not just less than what they pay

00:58:03.940 for them but remember the debasement of the currency has happened as well so it's like a

00:58:09.440 loss on top of a loss yes which people don't factor that in normally they're just looking at

00:58:14.100 on total like some value they're like well it's less than i paid it's like yeah but your money's

00:58:18.860 worth like it's worth less now i mean good point especially especially if you bought before let's

00:58:23.260 say you bought in 2019 or before the inflation was monstrous since then yeah like i don't know

00:58:29.340 what it is in real terms because these numbers are rigged but 20 25 maybe maybe even 30 something

00:58:35.920 like that and and look a lot of these apartments were purchased um as a stepping stone on the

00:58:41.800 property ladder and now a lot of people are finding themselves basically trapped or having

00:58:46.220 to take a big loss to come out of this but yeah i mean as a stepping stone on the because that is

00:58:51.280 that that was part of it that's what people i mean yeah back in the 90s that was kind of what

00:58:55.160 people were selling you selling the sort of flats odd oh just get on the property ladder and you can

00:58:59.260 kind of work your way up it yeah it was this sort of you know pyramid scheme where you can just keep

00:59:03.520 going keep climbing well ladder scheme keep climbing keep climbing so i mean this kind of

00:59:07.400 can you this kind of sums it up so we've got this um austin chap sales manager and he's saying i

00:59:13.000 don't think i've sold a one-bed flat to anyone other than first-time buyers with mummy and daddy's

00:59:18.020 money for the last decade yeah that's not a functional market that's just the volumes

00:59:23.360 collapsing as you squeeze down the group of people who can actually afford to buy these

00:59:26.880 well it's even worse than that now as well because mummy and daddy's money because of inflation is

00:59:33.180 getting worse and worse also border terrier champ um but also uh when you've got inheritance

00:59:39.960 taxes and things like that it just gets worse and worse and worse and worse you're you're just

00:59:44.000 squeezing it consistently yeah so that we can run massive government deficits forever we're gonna 1.00

00:59:51.100 pay for bemalians mate yes come on they and house them exactly yeah right they they need to be housed 1.00

00:59:58.540 right they have come here we must pay for them oh here we go why do people not want them i mean 1.00

01:00:05.140 when i bought my first house i mean one of the things i was very much aware of is i'm not going

01:00:09.200 to buy anything unless if i got stuck in this for the rest of my life i could live with it

01:00:12.760 yeah that's what i did which was not going to be a flat so i mean my first house was a i mean it

01:00:17.740 was a three-bed house and was like garden and driveway but it was on it was in in london so

01:00:21.760 it wasn't that big or anything but it's like i could live with it if i got stuck in this forever

01:00:25.900 i could live with it and if london didn't just continue to take a dive yes yeah well it was

01:00:31.780 london taking a dive that made me think yeah maybe not time to get out especially with small kids

01:00:36.260 um but yeah a lot of people are saying that um you know one bed flats are just not um in vogue

01:00:41.920 anymore largely because of the hangover of the race for space during the pandemic see that's the

01:00:45.740 other thing so um everyone wants to work from home now so a kind of two bed is really a kind

01:00:52.600 minimal and then what if you have kids as well yeah but it's not just that either like it's

01:00:57.640 you don't want to live in a one-bed flat yeah no one wants to live in a one-bed flat no one wants

01:01:03.840 to live in a studio apartment no one i'm speaking on a monolith yes there might be one or two people

01:01:08.940 that do but you're weird basically no one wants to do those things it's that necessity right i had 0.99

01:01:14.320 this conversation with my prospective mp during the last election round and such an idiot she was 0.55

01:01:21.120 like oh no yeah i was like what you're gonna do when when we keep flooding the country with people

01:01:25.120 we'll just build more houses i'm like well we're not though aren't we yes she's like well we'll

01:01:28.880 just build more flats i'm like sorry you think i'm like you think people want to live in a flat 0.69

01:01:33.360 over a cottage she's like yeah i'm like you're an idiot yeah like no like if if someone had a choice

01:01:39.720 they're both the same price yeah cottage right or a flat a tower block until london just looks like

01:01:48.640 judge dread yeah no one wants to live in those places they have to it's out of a necessity they

01:01:55.840 have to live there but now they can't some of the hovels i lived in they're just yeah insane yeah

01:02:02.660 yeah and you gotta pay a hefty sum for it as well and and and of course i mean it might make sense

01:02:08.180 if you're going to be in there for i don't know two years three years and then you move on to

01:02:13.600 something else um but but but because i mean they keep on adding stamp duties the transaction costs

01:02:20.040 every time you try and buy now you've got to go you've got to go to a lawyer to go for all these

01:02:23.320 unnecessary checks you've got to get was it epgs or whenever you buy a place the um oh not a what

01:02:30.720 is it the the efficiency rating oh yeah you do yeah yeah epcs is it maybe something i think it

01:02:36.400 is that yes some nonsense like that where you've got to have the whole place energy assessed and

01:02:40.480 it's difficult to buy if it's if it's not up to the sort of efficient standard current standards

01:02:45.080 which keep changing so brilliant yeah so i mean basically um people are basically deciding yeah

01:02:50.660 with all of these costs and stamp duties and mortgage fees and because every everybody is

01:02:55.560 loaded on cost whenever they see something happening it's like how can i take a slice of

01:02:59.780 that yeah how could how can i take a cut and the government being the chief amongst that yeah we're

01:03:04.640 going to take our cuts yeah so what do people do it's like okay well i'm just going to stay somewhere

01:03:09.580 for a decade rather than moving through the system

01:03:13.060 like the system was actually built to use

01:03:15.320 at the point where all these sort of taxes go on.

01:03:18.360 Well, they did all of this, included all these taxes

01:03:21.200 under the belief, the myopic belief,

01:03:24.340 that the system that they were inadvertently creating

01:03:29.100 or at least attempting to profit from

01:03:31.040 would continue rather than collapse.

01:03:33.640 Yes.

01:03:34.040 And now it's collapsed.

01:03:35.420 Well, and the funny thing is, right,

01:03:36.660 so they tax stuff like speeding.

01:03:38.840 I mean, I know it's a speed ticket, but ultimately it is a tax.

01:03:42.320 It's the government imposing a cost on you.

01:03:44.460 And the reason they do that is because we want to stop people speeding, they say.

01:03:48.320 They impose a tax on smoking, and the stated reason is we want people to stop smoking.

01:03:53.420 And yet they tax things like transaction or working.

01:03:56.940 I mean, by their own logic, what happens at that point?

01:04:00.320 People stop moving and people work less.

01:04:03.620 It's going to have an impact.

01:04:05.120 I found this kind of little explainer,

01:04:07.640 which I thought just kind of sums it up very well.

01:04:10.620 And you probably do it better than I can in two minutes.

01:04:13.260 So this guy's saying, look,

01:04:15.920 a disproportionate share of British wealth

01:04:17.640 is concentrated in housing.

01:04:19.220 Over 40% of total household wealth

01:04:21.400 approaching four trillion

01:04:22.560 is tied up in residential property.

01:04:24.580 For 30 years, that appears to work well.

01:04:26.740 So basically houses go up,

01:04:28.300 you get expanding credit.

01:04:30.300 It helps push all of this.

01:04:32.320 it ceases to function as shelter and becomes a leveraged money store for the future yeah so many

01:04:39.080 so many retired people is like yeah i'm just gonna i'm just gonna you know work my way up the

01:04:43.480 property ladder and then i've got this asset and that's going to provide for me an old age

01:04:46.760 and then because you're doing all of this and these sort of anti-young um policies you've

01:04:53.220 got an aging population low birth rates which they're trying to make up for with immigration

01:04:57.440 of course and while they're trying to tax the thing that people have been using as a saving

01:05:01.640 vehicle and turned it into basically a capital tool rather than rather than just just home

01:05:06.400 um yeah and this corresponds yeah the entire uk model became dependent on rising house prices as

01:05:12.440 a substitute for actual productivity growth because there hasn't been any in the uk no it's

01:05:18.160 been literally none and that's why you know when when you look at what some of the biggest donors

01:05:23.060 of the tory party for the last 14 years who were they they were housing developers yes yes follow

01:05:28.720 than money but i mean let labor's not much better either i mean i saw yeah i'm no front of labor

01:05:33.560 i saw something this morning which was a labor mp um she's decided that her big thing in parliament 1.00

01:05:40.620 why she's sent there is she's going to normalize sex toys yeah what she's a 46 year old idiot 46 1.00

01:05:47.020 year old married mum and she's got into parliament nothing better to do well i mean she's got no 0.73

01:05:52.540 ideas so she's got to parliament it's like okay what am i going to do with myself now i'm here

01:05:57.440 and it's like what's the one thing that i could actually contribute oh i i can make it so that

01:06:03.640 you can walk into tesco's and buy the ramen 3000 without people looking at you funny and

01:06:08.920 i mean because we because we don't have people in parliament who have any ideas nobody in nobody

01:06:14.280 in parliament has any idea how to how to have a growth strategy or to you know fix things for

01:06:19.640 young people so they get the comfy paycheck yeah yeah our political classes are insultingly

01:06:26.980 stupid yeah they are they are incredibly dumb they are they are incredibly i mean what else 0.66

01:06:34.060 did he say um yeah and stupidly was embraced it as a nation house prices uh going up made people

01:06:39.260 feel richer so they spent more which generated tax revenue which funded public services well

01:06:44.860 well it says sorry john when it says houses um going up made people feel richer well it made

01:06:50.620 a particular strata of people feel richer yes you know not so much for the other people this is this

01:06:58.200 is why i sort of start out by calling it generational unfairness i don't think it's

01:07:01.420 really on um and the thing is once you stop that flywheel of we're just gonna we're just gonna pay

01:07:06.680 more for each other's houses and make ourselves feel richer and suck a few young people in the

01:07:10.820 end increasingly few and as you can see from the volume collapse yeah the young people they're just

01:07:15.400 not coming through anymore no the bottom not only that yeah they're leaving yes yeah this entire

01:07:21.680 system is actually predicated on the young deciding that they enjoy being punched in the

01:07:27.740 face by themselves constantly yes by the government basically like no just just stay here just stay

01:07:33.240 here it's like mate the people that were staying here weren't staying for the weather they weren't

01:07:37.680 staying for the economy they were staying because this land is their inheritance and they love it

01:07:43.520 now you've disinherited them

01:07:45.360 you've destroyed the economy

01:07:47.120 the weather sucks

01:07:48.420 and you've made it so unpalatable

01:07:51.140 that they're unfathomably difficult

01:07:54.000 for them to reside here

01:07:55.300 a lot of them are just leaving

01:07:57.020 250,000 last year

01:08:00.440 or whatever it was

01:08:01.200 just gone, boom, gone

01:08:02.400 I mean this is going to exponentially

01:08:04.860 keep going

01:08:06.160 and the first rung of the property ladder

01:08:08.680 is rotten to the point of falling apart

01:08:11.140 I mean the whole thing will come up

01:08:12.880 because if there's no new money going into it...

01:08:15.060 But those people leaving

01:08:16.020 are paying all of the bloody taxes as well.

01:08:18.720 Yes.

01:08:19.240 So this whole thing is going to just implode.

01:08:21.840 Yes, yes.

01:08:22.680 And it's such a...

01:08:25.460 I can't fathom how stupid you have to be

01:08:29.620 to not consider that as a government.

01:08:31.440 Well, we need the young people to pay taxes, 1.00

01:08:33.680 to pay for everything. 1.00

01:08:35.640 Oh, well, they'll just leave.

01:08:36.780 Oh.

01:08:37.560 Yeah, absolutely.

01:08:39.560 Oh, well, never mind.

01:08:40.720 I think this Rumble rant actually is pretty applicable to read now,

01:08:43.760 just from Jammer for $5, where it says,

01:08:45.620 I'm 24 and I live in Manchester.

01:08:47.540 I had to work 70 plus hours most weeks for three years to get my house,

01:08:52.280 but it meant that I had no social life.

01:08:54.460 Only things I'd pay for was diesel and the rent when I live with my parents.

01:08:58.720 Mad.

01:08:59.700 There's just no future in it. 0.99

01:09:01.660 There's certainly no finding a wife in that, or husband, or whatever.

01:09:05.180 Just don't have a coffee, guys.

01:09:06.500 Don't buy your costas, remember? 1.00

01:09:08.640 That's what the boomers tell us. 1.00

01:09:10.720 Yeah, go with that. 1.00

01:09:11.200 Not me, I've got a house.

01:09:12.120 The thing is, a healthy housing market,

01:09:14.560 what it should do is it should match the household

01:09:16.540 to the appropriate person for it.

01:09:18.840 So you start when you're single in a flat,

01:09:20.680 and then you go up and you move through larger family homes

01:09:23.120 as your family grows.

01:09:24.100 And then when you get old, you move into a bungalow.

01:09:27.100 You know, it should work.

01:09:28.140 But because of stamp duties and all the rest of the fees

01:09:30.520 that have been put on all of this stuff,

01:09:32.400 volume collapse has basically broken that down. 0.95

01:09:35.240 So you just get boomers in massive homes

01:09:38.280 and people in their 30s with two kids in a flat yeah the whole and you know stamp duty has been 0.93

01:09:44.680 sort of dumped on top of this is because of course the government needs to find a way to

01:09:48.920 run up a sort of permanent deficit um but i mean it's not just it's not just stamp duties i mean

01:09:53.380 it's legal fees and it's mortgage exit fees and it's arrangement fees and you go in and it's

01:09:57.840 surveys and it's you know removals and you know all the time and uncertainty that goes with it

01:10:02.720 and and the result is velocity is collapsing in the housing market so so uk has something like

01:10:08.360 24 25 million houses or homes sorry 24 million homes and in 2005 when i started looking at this

01:10:17.040 about seven percent of those transacted every year so it's a reasonably healthy market

01:10:22.840 and amount of movement and what it basically implies is that people stay in their home for

01:10:27.860 about 13 years okay fair enough that that seems about right i mean each key life stage 13 years

01:10:34.880 yep single person alone small family larger family um you know moving on then into retirement

01:10:41.380 yeah okay fair enough i can go with that 13 years seems to about make sense with some people moving

01:10:45.840 a little bit more today the um the velocity is literally half it's 3.5 which which has pushed

01:10:54.520 the average time in a place to 26 years so people aren't rotating through this a lot of people are

01:11:02.060 just moving into something and then they're just staying there forever you know and that's why

01:11:05.720 people don't want to get trapped in a in a one-bed flat because you know they can't risk

01:11:11.780 yeah um getting stuck in something they need something they can just walk away from

01:11:16.180 and um and what's happened to stamp duty all that time okay well when it started it was raising about

01:11:21.220 three billion oh good well this isn't this isn't affecting the market much it's just a new way of

01:11:27.200 getting our hands on some money uh and then what is it today oh it's 12 billion which they can't

01:11:32.460 afford to go without it's a major revenue line now even though they've even though and you can

01:11:37.820 show how you show how extractive it is is because even though volumes have collapsed to half what

01:11:43.820 they were they're still getting 12 billion from it so that so they're not they're not going to

01:11:47.340 let that go well that's subsequently i guess now why they're talking about you know additional

01:11:51.980 taxes on top of higher properties because you know they're not getting the they want that to

01:11:58.140 grow and they've not had to yeah they've got to extract more somehow they're trying to get it

01:12:01.660 elsewhere because we can never cut spending on anything ever no um and as burnside points out

01:12:07.120 quite well here um we are the third highest tax revenue country in the world and we're poor we're

01:12:15.440 Poor as a country, you've got to remember that.

01:12:17.460 Third highest tax burden in the world, and we're poor.

01:12:20.240 Everyone can feel it.

01:12:21.380 Our GDP per head is lower than every state in the United States,

01:12:26.580 including Mississippi.

01:12:27.800 Yeah.

01:12:29.560 So what are we going to do?

01:12:30.660 Are we going to tax more?

01:12:31.540 Are we going to overtake China and become the second highest tax revenues?

01:12:35.980 Well, we can't because we just – we can't.

01:12:38.640 We don't have the volume of biomass to do that.

01:12:40.920 We can't do it.

01:12:42.100 So this is not going to work.

01:12:43.680 All right, and what's it all in service of? 1.00

01:12:47.720 Romalian. 0.58

01:12:49.020 Well, state spending.

01:12:53.360 So I've added up there where your money's going.

01:12:57.860 Health is, of course, the biggest,

01:13:00.480 most of which is spent on pensioners.

01:13:04.980 I had to split out welfare into two groups

01:13:08.160 because welfare is actually the largest group of state spending.

01:13:11.960 330 plus.

01:13:13.000 yeah that was the recent figure 384 billion i think it was um so i had to split that out into

01:13:18.780 other forms of welfare and the state pension the state pension is a is a is a benefit it is part

01:13:26.140 of welfare um and this is kind of what we got me thinking about this because i've just done a

01:13:30.280 brokonomics on the triple lock which will be out on tuesday because that's been a discussion

01:13:35.140 recently where you know people are saying look this triple lock is mental it has to go i mean

01:13:40.440 the reason why the triple lock is so completely mental

01:13:42.420 is because you get the best of,

01:13:47.060 was it wages going up or inflation going up?

01:13:50.360 And if neither of those are going up,

01:13:51.680 you still get two and a half percent, right?

01:13:53.540 What that actually is, is it's double dipping

01:13:56.200 because you can see this since COVID,

01:13:58.900 massive inflation spike, right?

01:14:01.580 And then, which is basically everybody getting poorer

01:14:03.840 because their money goes less far.

01:14:05.580 And then that goes on for a couple of years

01:14:07.320 and then inflation starts to die.

01:14:08.620 and then you get a wage spike as people are trying to catch up with it it lags so you miss out on a

01:14:14.940 couple of years yeah and in and wages never go up quite as much as inflation but it's the same

01:14:20.880 mechanism the inflation then causes the wage spike to follow it but with a triple lock pension

01:14:26.800 you get both the inflation and the wage thing that follows so you're double dipping on this

01:14:32.740 And I mean, on the Brokonomics, I kind of go into it,

01:14:35.560 but if you keep running the triple lock,

01:14:39.340 it just consumes everything.

01:14:41.160 Yeah.

01:14:42.480 I mean, it can't not,

01:14:43.620 because it's an exponential growth series on a limited system.

01:14:47.100 I mean, it's going to be competing with the NHS

01:14:48.720 to consume everything.

01:14:50.580 But ultimately, if we carry on down this path,

01:14:54.360 the entire British state is just going to be

01:14:56.760 channelling all of the money towards pensioners,

01:15:00.080 either through welfare of the pensions or nhs and for some of the boomers out there the triple

01:15:06.600 octal seem to be their their sole uh decision making voting issue yes so yes that that had

01:15:15.420 bothered me that also keeps us tied to the old political system in the same way that you see

01:15:20.560 that there's a generational gap between you know the boomers who are voting for the older more

01:15:25.940 treacherous parties yes and the younger generation who are looking for something radical to get away

01:15:30.600 from that nonsense precisely where i'm going with this so so most most of health spending like 70

01:15:35.980 of health spending is is for the elderly i know they do do some other stuff they deliver the

01:15:39.480 occasional baby and if you if your head gets knocked off on a motorcycle it really is the

01:15:43.300 occasional baby at this point yes isn't it so but mostly that that's that's that's going to older

01:15:48.560 folk um as is all of that and i suppose you could even make the argument that you know a lot of the

01:15:53.640 debt interest is that because it was accumulated on their watch so you you could say that but the

01:15:57.860 result is that um at least a quarter if not um 30 percent of all state spending is just going on the

01:16:03.840 you know the 10 of of the pensioners especially if um the constant line is that well we need all 0.97

01:16:10.620 the immigrants to look after the boomers and everything it's like yeah but they get old too 1.00

01:16:14.400 millions of them and they get old and we're giving them pensions and you're going to bring 0.51

01:16:20.340 in millions the whole the whole thing is yeah i mean it is it's not a case of if it is now just

01:16:26.840 when yes this will collapse it can't not collapse yes the whole thing is going to just completely

01:16:34.080 fall apart i want to be absolutely clear yes you know there are other issues i'm highlighting in

01:16:39.780 in this segment the generational unfairness because it does have to be ignored yes of course

01:16:45.940 immigration needs to be reversed.

01:16:48.160 But even if you stopped every non-native from claiming welfare, 0.98

01:16:51.560 you wouldn't fix this deficit. 0.96

01:16:53.280 I mean, you can notice, I've done each of these as a percentage of income.

01:16:56.920 The eagle-eyed will spot, oh, have you made a mistake

01:16:59.280 because it adds up to 112?

01:17:00.800 No, that's because we spend more than we take in in taxes.

01:17:05.180 That's why it's 112%. 0.85

01:17:06.800 But even if you reverse the immigration, you wouldn't actually fix that. 0.96

01:17:11.980 It's not large enough.

01:17:13.260 honest um it has you have to address the generational um unfairness because what we've

01:17:19.460 got at the moment is this uh oh and also yeah welfare that that needs to be addressed as well

01:17:25.060 saw that yesterday i was well happy to see that yeah brilliant yeah 8.4 million on um on universal

01:17:31.320 credit which is you know it i mean so i i read i reposed to this and said look you know anyone on

01:17:38.060 benefits no one on benefits should be better off than someone working right like it's wild that

01:17:44.760 i've got to say that but you know i have a lot of sympathy for people that are forced into

01:17:48.620 you know the benefits yes like genuinely yes but it's still there's not 8.4 million of them

01:17:55.180 it's still yeah and it's still welfare like overall i could believe 0.4 million yeah yeah

01:18:00.340 but overall the reasoning behind people being forced into it is still welfare yeah because if

01:18:05.660 If your welfare bill exceeds your income tax

01:18:08.560 and your taxes are still the highest they've ever been,

01:18:13.720 yeah, I mean, like, employers are going to be sacking people.

01:18:16.820 I mean, and we...

01:18:18.760 Can't keep paying for it.

01:18:19.760 But on the generational unfairness, I mean, look,

01:18:21.920 I mean, Desmond Swain, who actually, to be fair,

01:18:24.040 he's the one good Tory.

01:18:26.560 He was against the lockdown stuff as well.

01:18:28.420 He was. He was very sound on that.

01:18:29.960 So actually, apart from Rupert Lowe, I like Swain as well.

01:18:33.020 He's pretty good.

01:18:33.720 I mean but he has the advantage of being born in 1956 and as he points out here look if you were if

01:18:38.660 you like me were born in 1956 and you're the median of that generation of that year you get

01:18:45.980 300,000 pounds transferred to you from the state that is coming from all of the other generations

01:18:52.260 yeah so and and that's largely because the boomer generation was so large they basically got whatever

01:18:57.480 they wanted throughout their entire lives as they voted it was youth-friendly policies when they

01:19:02.720 were young and now it's pensioner friendly policies and people are going to come at me 0.67

01:19:07.680 i'm not if you're if you were born in 1956 or around then i'm not having a go at you

01:19:12.480 circumstance i'm just saying that the median voter of that period is voting in their own interest

01:19:18.860 irrespective of whether you yourself are yeah um you know you might be better than that um

01:19:24.940 and the other thing people say is oh dan you're you're you're not fair because pensions um aren't

01:19:30.620 actually that good in this country they're they're more attractive in the rest of the g7

01:19:34.060 and and i dismantle that argument completely in my broconomics on this subject because it's not

01:19:39.240 um okay yes the pensions in the other g7 countries are higher but in the uk you're getting paid in

01:19:46.160 services for half of it right yeah you're getting you're getting your your your bus thing you're

01:19:51.620 getting your nhs which is huge actually medical bills in old age is huge yeah so actually when

01:19:57.060 you look at what those g7 countries are spending on that 10 of their population that is retired

01:20:02.220 it's the same so you are getting the same deal we're just divvying it up differently and giving

01:20:07.320 you services instead of instead of all of it in cash uh which is the thing to be aware of

01:20:12.600 um this i found very interesting this is a i've had this guy on on brokonomics uh mike from hr

01:20:19.260 and um he's he's talking here about the health in a country that hr people look at

01:20:25.200 and a key indicator of that is okay how many people are doing overtime and how many people

01:20:30.860 are going for promotions fairly standard thing to see if your if your company is healthy

01:20:35.560 uh both are collapsing both both are collapsing why are they collapsing um yeah so this is this

01:20:42.480 is a major multinational that you got this data from somebody you spoke to there 30 of all

01:20:48.020 promotions were declined that's the people have actually come to them and said we would like to

01:20:53.680 promote you and give you more money and 30 of them say no because they'll cross the next tax

01:20:58.540 threshold exactly right this is that curve isn't it yeah mass refusal of overtime with only 20

01:21:05.500 of staff now accepting paid overtime you've rigged the economy against aspiration yeah because because

01:21:11.620 of the same thing as the bloody um stamped uh stamp duty which is teared up it's because the

01:21:16.900 tax bands are teared up so nobody wants to do anything yeah and again it goes back to what i

01:21:21.140 was saying as well is that you know you can't have i mean all these taxes are here obviously

01:21:26.240 to pay for all these benefits and the welfare and then if you then make it untenable to work

01:21:32.340 because you're taxing people to oblivion they will just then go to welfare like people yes there are

01:21:37.440 actually a large portion of people that are just going well what's the point why would i slave away

01:21:43.220 for 45 50 hours a week or whatever it is i don't know what full-time hours are these days yeah

01:21:47.960 they're not actually a lot to be fair you know why would i do that and earn like a pittance more

01:21:54.680 than what i could just get from sitting around and playing my xbox now you know that's not my

01:21:59.040 attitude but that is a large portion of people's attitude like people do genuinely think that when

01:22:03.900 i was living in london uh there was a time where i was working for a place and i got made redundant

01:22:07.740 and it took me about half a year to find another job and so while in that time i was on universal

01:22:13.400 credit and when i finally found a job again it wasn't much better yeah and also you know um you

01:22:20.800 know the days spent looking for a job and just piddling about at home reading my books and

01:22:25.000 everything was you know admittedly much more enjoyable and though i out of my own sense of

01:22:30.880 pride obviously wanted to work i can understand the temptation there of why many people don't

01:22:37.280 Well, you've got to pair that with also importing people from cultures that don't, like, we, the English, the British, look at people on the dole with a significant amount of disdain and resentment.

01:22:48.780 But they don't have that at all.

01:22:49.820 No, yeah. 1.00

01:22:50.420 You bring in people from Africa or the third world, they're just going to go, yeah, I'm going to have that free money. 1.00

01:22:57.360 Give me money. 1.00

01:22:57.880 Of course I am.

01:22:58.380 And them in their little enclaves are not going to be looking at each other going, gross.

01:23:02.760 No, they're going to be like, yeah, I've got that money.

01:23:03.920 And so the deal for young people.

01:23:05.460 do on tiktok come here you can get this exactly the deal for young people is that they are and

01:23:10.540 especially the working ones the setup at the moment is we are going to transfer money from

01:23:15.680 poor people to rich people basically young people to old people that that's what we do yes 20 percent

01:23:22.580 of retirees you know are genuinely poor yeah the other 80 percent are not the meat the median

01:23:29.500 boomer boomer has got half a million i don't know one in five is a is a millionaire and actually

01:23:36.400 two out of the five are not far below it they're like 900 000 yeah this is where you can see the uh

01:23:43.840 the appeal that the green party are going for on well funny you mentioned that oh right funny

01:23:50.120 funny you mentioned that if you look at the uh the breakdown in in voting intention um a lot of

01:23:56.240 people are inclined to say that it's just because young people are just left-wing that's it they're

01:24:00.500 just they're just idiots in the left wing there is an element of that there's a little bit of that

01:24:04.340 but the entire platform of and i'm pretty sure the next election is going to be a coalition between

01:24:09.920 the conservatives and um reform that their entire platform is transferring money from poor people to

01:24:18.400 rich people young people to old people essentially that and also immigrants immigrants as well the

01:24:25.260 reason the greens are doing so well over here is because they're actually speaking to young

01:24:29.440 people's concerns yeah i mean restore you know massively they've got my support and stuff but

01:24:35.280 they need to get on this yes they need to start signaling there needs to be a right-wing option

01:24:40.100 for um well should we say these people down here anyone under 40 there needs to be a right-wing

01:24:47.160 option that appeals to them that's me yep yep entirely because ultimately i think what we need

01:24:52.140 is a national project and if we're going to have a national project because our politicians they

01:24:56.700 don't know what they're doing they don't know they don't know what they're supposed to be doing

01:24:59.260 they don't know what they're focused on i've got one turn that chart upside down make make that go

01:25:05.800 back up to over 50 percent again i want over 50 percent of people married and homeowners by the

01:25:11.820 time they're 30 that is what we should be putting our national energy into any comments uh three

01:25:20.040 Oh, you've done Jam.

01:25:20.940 That was a good one.

01:25:22.520 You're ramshackle otter. 0.99

01:25:24.380 There is no body testing the safety of sex toys.

01:25:28.100 It's a self-regulated industry.

01:25:29.900 There have been countless severe injuries and even death.

01:25:33.780 Good Lord.

01:25:35.540 That's an unfortunate way to go, isn't it?

01:25:37.420 Yes.

01:25:38.680 Doing what you love, though, I suppose.

01:25:40.040 Has anyone done a study on the amount of children

01:25:43.740 stroke property of those who stay versus expats?

01:25:48.960 Anyone done a study in the amount?

01:25:50.140 I wanted to see if people that have left have more...

01:25:52.900 Are going alone or taking their families.

01:25:55.540 Oh, I don't know. I don't know.

01:25:57.300 Not sure on that one.

01:25:58.220 Do we have video comments, Samson?

01:26:01.860 In fact, of course we do.

01:26:02.940 I see them in front of me. What a silly question.

01:26:04.780 Go on then.

01:26:05.280 As you can clearly see

01:26:18.720 As Peter Perrer

01:26:19.900 As the new Lib Dem leader

01:26:21.680 Is fierce in his

01:26:23.060 Fierce in his defense of the realm

01:26:25.600 Against the flying octopus

01:26:27.800 Come on

01:26:31.620 very pretty kitty pretty kitty for everyone to see now enjoy i will i love cats oh now we're

01:26:47.040 on to dogs excellent and now a quick sakura comment as sakura says listening to liberal 0.71

01:26:54.080 women helps me understand why liberal men are all gay 0.56

01:26:59.660 are there any more samson can you notch up the volume slightly 0.78

01:27:04.520 i'm old i've got bad ears funny michael

01:27:08.440 unlike its english namesake chatham in southern ontario is not widely known for anything

01:27:15.720 well i like to invoke the name to italians even including italian americans as the birthplace of

01:27:21.940 hawaiian pizza by a greek who understood that pineapple does belong on pizza anyway for when

01:27:27.600 carl is next back on the podcast he can add chatham to his list of places to visit to maybe

01:27:32.240 glimpse the sasquatch i'll be sure to let him know alex pineapple does belong on people i mean

01:27:40.600 my stand i agree with this my standard pizza order is double anchovies double pineapple just nails it

01:27:47.760 i've been seeing the leftists insisting we need to rewild wolves in the countryside again and

01:27:56.940 I feel that we should follow up on this, and perhaps the Western man can make an alliance with the wild hog herds that we have all around America and start rewilding them into places like Berlinistan and Londinistan and New York and perhaps Madrid. 0.97

01:28:12.840 I believe the Spanish might need the pig's help in the coming days. 0.89

01:28:16.580 And after – although I am told that the wild hogs are not dangerous, so I don't think the population should have any trouble with them. 1.00

01:28:25.260 Quite dangerous, to be fair. 0.82

01:28:26.720 Yeah, I thought so.

01:28:29.520 Trump blackbags the Pope during a late-night daring Delta Force raid

01:28:33.920 after the Pontifax Maximus failed to retweet him.

01:28:39.020 What is your policy on America? 1.00

01:28:40.920 You must appease the Protestants. 0.98

01:28:42.660 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 0.91

01:28:56.480 at the time i thought that i was coming up with the most ridiculous possible scenario

01:29:07.620 i didn't then expect it to happen three weeks later but i don't know maybe who was in the

01:29:12.820 white house yes a bit unfortunate that uh any more samson trump black bags

01:29:21.660 nope nope and now my greatest hits okay you're just doing them in reverse all right my laptop's

01:29:29.920 packed in so i'm just gonna oh right so let me close out so i can get to comments i'll just read 0.96

01:29:35.820 one because we're short on time uh so from my segment uh richard says get rid of the foreigners

01:29:42.100 get rid of foreign taxes eu get rid of foreign rulers it's the only way uh there's a lot to do

01:29:48.060 Richard there's a lot to do and that's a random name says so I suppose my comment on the state 0.89

01:29:53.520 of politics the other day was prescient the Irish will soon be using yeah I can subscribe

01:29:59.380 ladies and gentlemen to Nate's channel uh with Bo uh the Irish will soon be using potatoes as

01:30:05.480 currency due to their rarity yeah it's like it's like meme magic I suppose and uh also last one 0.78

01:30:13.800 um az desert rat says 60 of the price that's a little psychotic yeah and the rest of ireland

01:30:20.480 noticed that point az okay uh from your segment nate if you just want to kevin fox says and in 0.71

01:30:28.380 the south korean labor camp he will not be around nice white collar korean criminals they save the 0.82

01:30:33.620 camps for the worst of the worst so instead of behaving like a biatch he's going to become kim 0.99

01:30:39.520 Lee Hong's biatch. 1.00

01:30:41.420 I guess all that twerking practice

01:30:42.960 Johnny did will prove useless.

01:30:46.240 Brilliant. 0.53

01:30:47.500 We should follow this story

01:30:49.160 with attention.

01:30:51.340 Is Dan's median earning calculation

01:30:53.520 pre- or post-tax?

01:30:55.080 Because a significant chunk of earnings

01:30:57.040 is going to be taken by tax,

01:30:58.640 national insurance, student loan repayments,

01:31:00.620 bump the multiplier up even more.

01:31:02.900 It's true.

01:31:03.440 It was pre-tax.

01:31:05.180 So, yes.

01:31:05.420 It is even worse.

01:31:07.020 And you're absolutely right

01:31:07.760 because the tax burden

01:31:08.660 is now significantly higher than it was.

01:31:11.100 So, yeah, in fact, when I started that series, 1995,

01:31:14.960 from memory, taxes as a portion of GDP were actually quite low

01:31:20.220 compared to the G7 and now they're at the top.

01:31:23.020 So, yes, absolutely right.

01:31:24.920 It is even worse than I made it sound like it was.

01:31:28.560 I love it.

01:31:29.360 And on that bombshell, it's time to end, ladies and gentlemen.

01:31:32.900 Dan, Nate, thank you for joining me.

01:31:34.680 Hope you've enjoyed the show, ladies and gentlemen.

01:31:36.440 and catch us at 1pm tomorrow for the next one.

01:31:39.040 Have a good evening.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 15, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1397

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