The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1399

00:00:00.000 Hello, everyone. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters. Today is Friday, the 17th of April

00:00:05.000 of 2026, and this is episode 1399. And I'm very pleased today to be joined by Brother Bo and

00:00:13.520 Brother Nick. And we are going to discuss the ongoing Mandelson affair, which is a very dirty

00:00:20.360 affair, the crimes of Julius Malema, and how invaders shamelessly gave our asylum system.

00:00:27.180 But before we go into the first segment, we have several announcements to make.

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00:01:30.720 policy now the yes x please we're british have you oh yeah bringing in toys to parliament

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00:01:52.060 like baton just an an idiot just all right okay that no let's go to segment one now we also have

00:02:00.880 lads hour for 3 p.m uk time today do you know what you're talking about on that's how i just

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00:02:22.580 All right.

00:02:23.760 Okay.

00:02:25.000 I see.

00:02:26.520 All right.

00:02:27.220 Let's talk about a thing that's in the news today.

00:02:30.000 The main thing that's in the news today,

00:02:31.880 the news cycle on Friday the 17th of April,

00:02:35.380 is all about Mandy.

00:02:36.900 It's a Mandy day.

00:02:37.660 Peter Mandelson,

00:02:39.140 once Lord Mandelson,

00:02:41.600 First Baron Mandelson,

00:02:43.240 Yeah, so.

00:02:44.200 And this one's really bad.

00:02:45.240 This one's like, surely Starmer can't survive this one.

00:02:48.040 He survived everything else.

00:02:49.580 This one is so bad because they actually overrode the security advisors,

00:02:53.320 I'm sure you're going to cover, in an incredible way,

00:02:55.860 which is just shameless and not what Starmer said.

00:02:58.280 Or did they?

00:02:59.000 They're claiming they didn't.

00:03:00.820 Should we get into it?

00:03:01.560 Yeah, we'll get into it.

00:03:02.240 Okay, so just to prove to you it is, in fact, the main thing,

00:03:06.460 at least in the British media today, all the front pages,

00:03:10.780 pretty much all the front pages go with Mandy.

00:03:14.040 There's one of Harry, but all the front pages talk about,

00:03:17.660 nearly all of them talk about this.

00:03:20.240 So what it was, just to let everyone know,

00:03:22.980 who might have been living under a rock for a while,

00:03:26.260 is that Peter Mandelson, this chap here,

00:03:30.120 was very good friends with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:03:32.340 And I mean weirdly good friends.

00:03:34.180 He was closer with Jeffrey Epstein than I have ever been

00:03:37.740 with any of my friends going back to people I've known

00:03:40.080 since primary school, like e-manning him all the time.

00:03:44.000 They were intimately related?

00:03:46.080 Well, to the point where he was given state secrets, wasn't he?

00:03:52.280 Well, yeah, that's the thing, yeah.

00:03:54.260 You've never given state secrets to any of your friends,

00:03:56.560 is what you're saying?

00:03:57.280 Yeah, yeah, I've never done that.

00:03:58.660 Hand on my heart, I can say I've never been trusted

00:04:01.180 with any state secrets, but nonetheless, if I had been.

00:04:05.560 You wouldn't have told us.

00:04:06.880 Yeah, yeah, right.

00:04:08.540 So crazily close to him, like emailing him all the time.

00:04:12.360 And, of course, long after, way after his conviction,

00:04:15.620 Jeffrey Epstein's conviction for paedophilia.

00:04:17.460 So, OK.

00:04:18.320 And then some of the actual real dirty sort of crimes

00:04:22.100 or crime-adjacent things that went down.

00:04:24.640 One, it looks like Jeffrey Epstein gave Mandy money,

00:04:28.580 if not through his husband, Mandy's husband.

00:04:31.440 Mandy's gay.

00:04:32.100 He's married to a man.

00:04:33.700 And Jeffrey Epstein gave him money in various ways.

00:04:35.980 He's got all sorts of money.

00:04:36.760 mandy seems to have or has just did back in the gordon brown years email or just text

00:04:44.920 jeffrey epstein with insider information full-blown insider information one

00:04:49.480 one that just politically that gordon brown was about to resign but also before that when there

00:04:55.300 was the the credit crunch in between 07 and 09 that whole credit crunch and alistair darling

00:05:00.320 the late alistair darling remember he was the the chancellor of the exchequer mandy was like the

00:05:05.080 a business secretary or something at that time,

00:05:06.860 and he was in the room for all the big important moves during that,

00:05:11.420 when the Chancellor's Checker was going to do bailouts

00:05:13.640 and all that stuff.

00:05:15.180 Mandy was on the inside.

00:05:17.900 He quite literally left the room and is messaging Epstein

00:05:20.640 with highly sensitive, market-sensitive information.

00:05:25.040 I mean, that is what a foreign agent would do.

00:05:30.500 Literally then your loyalty is to Jeffrey Epstein

00:05:34.000 and his cabal rather than to the government.

00:05:37.520 You're supposed to be a member of the cabinet

00:05:38.900 of the British government,

00:05:40.380 but your loyalty is actually to him, it seems.

00:05:43.340 There's no other way to spin that.

00:05:45.340 It's not mere corruption.

00:05:46.520 It's more than that.

00:05:47.800 And he wasn't hiding it, to be fair.

00:05:48.960 He is known as the Prince of Darkness.

00:05:50.920 So, you know what I mean?

00:05:51.780 It's like, hello, I'm the Prince of Darkness.

00:05:52.940 We need you to be ambassador to the United States.

00:05:56.880 So Mandy's been around since the beginning.

00:05:59.220 He was in with Blair in 1997, quite literally.

00:06:02.120 He was there.

00:06:02.600 He was one of the, he was sort of one of the architects of Mr. Blair's landslide in 1997.

00:06:09.660 He's been in and around.

00:06:10.640 And of course, even after Blair, he's in the Brown government.

00:06:12.940 And even now, throughout that whole 14 years of Tory rule, once Starmer gets back in, he's right there at the heart of it.

00:06:18.880 He's like one of the main, again, one of the main architects of Labour in this iteration of Labour government.

00:06:24.700 He's very high profile.

00:06:26.260 Yeah, super high profile.

00:06:27.080 I mean, in fact, I was going to leave it to the end, but I suppose it's something.

00:06:29.500 Isn't he a lord also?

00:06:30.740 He was.

00:06:31.260 He's been stripped of that now.

00:06:33.560 In fact, here's something in the iPod.

00:06:35.540 Mandelson was given secret spreadsheet to vet left-wing MPs

00:06:39.100 in Labour power struggle.

00:06:40.740 So even when Starmer got in, it was, apparently,

00:06:46.260 it was Mandelson who was sort of telling,

00:06:49.720 he was pulling strings in loads and loads of different ways.

00:06:51.400 Like Morgan McSweeney was his protege, for example.

00:06:54.960 Everyone agrees to that.

00:06:56.420 No one deniers that.

00:06:57.640 So

00:06:59.100 Mandelson was

00:07:01.040 Sort of at the heart of

00:07:02.480 Was certainly at the heart of New Labour

00:07:04.920 But he also seems to have been or was

00:07:06.860 At the heart of the Starmer administration

00:07:09.640 In loads and loads of different ways

00:07:11.820 It was just super important

00:07:14.200 Even if he's not like an actual MP

00:07:16.120 You know

00:07:16.800 So

00:07:17.800 Okay let me just get my links back

00:07:21.100 Sorry

00:07:21.680 Where are we?

00:07:24.080 That one

00:07:24.320 Okay

00:07:24.540 So some of the blurb on the front of the IPA

00:07:27.260 because it sort of tells you all.

00:07:29.160 Starmer in peril again as Number 10 turns on the Foreign Office.

00:07:32.380 He's just blaming the Foreign Office.

00:07:34.740 Because what it looked like, after Madison was disgraced,

00:07:37.580 shown to have done these things in that DOJ,

00:07:39.800 US Department of Justice document dump,

00:07:43.840 and Mandy's name's turning up all over the place in that,

00:07:46.720 he was disgraced at that point and had to leave the Labour Party

00:07:49.860 and had his period stripped from him

00:07:52.360 and is under investigation by the Cabinet Office and the police,

00:07:56.180 and on, and on, and on.

00:07:57.260 Some of the questions then came back to the Prime Minister himself.

00:08:00.800 Why did you parachute Mandy in to be US ambassador?

00:08:05.840 Because usually, to get that job, the highest ambassador,

00:08:10.020 the highest diplomat there is, other than perhaps the Foreign Secretary himself,

00:08:13.600 the greatest front people for your country or for our country

00:08:18.340 would be probably the king, the Prime Minister, perhaps the Foreign Secretary,

00:08:22.760 and then someone like the ambassador to the US.

00:08:26.080 it's super super high up and you would never get that job usually unless you've been um an ambassador

00:08:31.300 for like 30 odd years it's sort of the last thing they will give you at the foreign office it's like

00:08:36.360 the last cherry on top of your career you get to be that really high thing but no they parachuted

00:08:43.080 mandian of course you need vetting before they let you do that even if you're a t-boy at the

00:08:47.860 foreign office they'll have to vet you thoroughly to make sure you're not being blackmailed by any

00:08:52.360 foreign powers or are an actual agent for them yeah you would expect that well yeah what should

00:08:58.420 be isn't always what's the case right you know it's mad i might have said it before nigel farage

00:09:02.200 offered to do this before he came back he was sort of seriously i don't know exactly when it

00:09:06.340 was he was seriously suggesting that he could be this envoy to to america imagine if a star would

00:09:10.960 have pointed him neutralized the opposition avoided the whole mandelson scandal that would

00:09:14.720 have been the 4d chess of the century probably not realistic but there's loads of point is there

00:09:19.380 those people you could have chosen other than manelson oh yeah well you should have really again

00:09:23.480 that role should have been someone that's already in the for has been in the foreign office their

00:09:28.640 whole career and has been an ambassador to somewhere just below the united states in

00:09:33.700 terms of prestige like if you're the ambassador to china or germany or france or something like

00:09:39.860 that and that's who that role would normally go to somebody like that okay but obviously someone

00:09:44.840 well, not obviously, probably, someone was pulling Starmer's strings

00:09:48.200 and the Foreign Office.

00:09:50.220 So, OK, he wasn't vetted, but the question now is,

00:09:55.400 what did Keir Starmer know and when?

00:09:58.100 He's claiming he didn't know.

00:09:59.620 So, OK, on this blurb it says,

00:10:00.680 Prime Minister is accused of misleading Parliament

00:10:02.860 after revelation that Mandelson failed security vetting

00:10:06.160 but was given job anyway.

00:10:08.580 So the key thing here is that Keir Starmer has gone before Parliament

00:10:11.980 and in other places and saying all due process was done correctly.

00:10:16.640 He was vetted correctly.

00:10:19.020 But now it's saying that he wasn't.

00:10:23.560 MI6 should have done the vetting and they hadn't finished it

00:10:27.280 when Starmer announced that he was actually now the new ambassador.

00:10:31.960 You can also argue that in some respects,

00:10:35.520 he was also in charge of the vetting himself.

00:10:37.800 if he was up that high up in labor for decades he was one of the top echelons of the labor

00:10:45.220 leadership so he was one of the of the few you know the select few so he would be doing the

00:10:53.060 vetting in a way he would have the final authority to say yeah okay you vetted him but maybe i don't

00:10:59.600 want him he doesn't promote labor interests the way i see them so in a way he would be

00:11:04.740 directly involved into that process.

00:11:06.800 Starmer?

00:11:07.800 No, Mandelson.

00:11:08.800 All right.

00:11:09.800 Okay.

00:11:10.800 Yeah.

00:11:11.800 If he's that high up, he would be one of the key decision makers.

00:11:13.960 And I'm not talking about, you know, very small roles like, you know, just the secretary

00:11:19.020 of a random backbencher.

00:11:21.560 Well, there's one thing to sort of put somebody forward for a role.

00:11:25.740 It's another thing to do the actual security checks on them.

00:11:29.220 Yeah.

00:11:30.220 So in this instance, it would have been MI6, the intelligence services.

00:11:33.540 my sixes comes under the purview of the foreign office yeah just to clarify what i said earlier

00:11:38.340 andrew neal has he was initially denied developed vetting clearance in january 2025

00:11:42.600 foreign office was encouraged to deploy a rarely used power to override the recommendation from

00:11:47.640 security officials that's what i was referring to before they were encouraged to override it

00:11:51.340 yeah i'm not sure actually right well that's the key thing here isn't it who did that because as

00:11:57.680 of right now number 10 and Yvette Cooper the current foreign secretary not happy when it

00:12:02.980 emerged last night or that the mainstream media was starting to talk about the fact that that

00:12:07.260 Madison hadn't passed his vetting they called some sort of crisis meeting I suppose you could

00:12:11.160 say at number 10 with Yvette Cooper and the most senior permanent secretary at the foreign office

00:12:15.760 Ollie Robbins and they just made him resign we say we're throwing you under the bus

00:12:20.700 you've got to resign. Starmer's running out of people to chuck under the bus is his problem

00:12:25.420 There's almost no one left.

00:12:26.520 It was either McSweeney, the other person that had civil service had,

00:12:30.200 whose name escapes me right now, again now.

00:12:33.200 Yeah.

00:12:33.520 Not many left.

00:12:34.420 Yeah, right.

00:12:36.120 And so, okay, the blurb says,

00:12:38.540 Downing Street insists Keir Starmer was kept in the dark until this week

00:12:42.520 about the fact that Mandy hadn't passed his vetting.

00:12:46.880 He insists and says, quote,

00:12:48.860 foreign office officials overruled the security services

00:12:52.200 who had warned that Lord Mandelson should not be allowed

00:12:55.160 to become ambassador to Washington.

00:12:58.080 Okay, so, in fact, we've got, go on.

00:13:01.040 I was going to say, it's a comedic interjection,

00:13:03.840 but Starmer is going for the Tony Soprano defence,

00:13:05.960 like, hey, don't tell me nothing.

00:13:07.900 That's what he's claiming, they didn't tell me anything.

00:13:09.640 So what can you do?

00:13:10.880 He's deliberately kept out of the loop, if you believe it.

00:13:13.720 Well, that's a classic defence all through time.

00:13:16.440 I deliberately don't tell me something.

00:13:18.140 Nixon would do this all the time.

00:13:19.360 When someone like Haldeman or Ehrlichman would come to Nixon

00:13:23.100 and try and start telling him what's really going on,

00:13:25.700 he was like, don't tell me.

00:13:26.720 Seriously, don't, you know, if I don't know,

00:13:30.260 I can then claim legitimately under oath that I didn't know,

00:13:32.680 so don't tell me.

00:13:34.140 Sorry?

00:13:34.580 Closable durability.

00:13:35.620 Yeah.

00:13:36.860 So, OK, let's hear from Starmer himself.

00:13:39.420 This is him speaking this morning, I believe.

00:13:42.620 That I wasn't told that Peter Mandelson had failed security vetting

00:13:47.820 when he's appointed

00:13:48.920 is staggering.

00:13:51.680 I wasn't told that it failed security

00:13:53.900 vetting when I was telling

00:13:55.980 Parliament that due process

00:13:57.900 had been followed. It's unforgivable.

00:14:01.320 Not only was I not

00:14:02.120 told, no minister

00:14:03.900 was told. And I'm absolutely

00:14:05.980 furious about that.

00:14:07.980 What I intend to do is to go to Parliament

00:14:09.760 on Monday to set out all

00:14:11.860 the relevant facts in true

00:14:13.780 transparency so Parliament has

00:14:15.840 the full picture.

00:14:16.500 question so did the security services say that mandelson failed vetting and starmer didn't know

00:14:25.180 apparently it seems that they would have mi6 would have told the foreign office but then the

00:14:30.780 foreign office didn't tell starmer starmer or any other ministers starmer told them i don't want to

00:14:36.440 know they went the truth will set you free no i don't want to be free who knows about that

00:14:40.880 possible deniability he's claiming not even that right he's claiming he just wasn't told

00:14:44.540 The problem is with that, if you look at that clip,

00:14:46.380 it just makes him look bad either way, doesn't it?

00:14:48.180 I wasn't told anything.

00:14:49.680 I'm in charge of an absolute disaster here.

00:14:51.340 No one respects me enough to tell me these things.

00:14:53.520 Or you're corrupt or you're not respected and incompetent.

00:14:57.460 It's one of two things.

00:14:58.660 Either what he just said there, the clip we just saw of him,

00:15:01.160 that's a liar and that's just his narrative

00:15:03.300 to try and save his own career.

00:15:05.940 And it's all nonsense.

00:15:06.760 He did know and he still just picked Mandy anyway

00:15:08.620 because he was told to by whoever.

00:15:10.720 Either that, so he's in on it all and a complete liar,

00:15:13.300 or a complete incompetent moron.

00:15:16.160 Who no one even thinks is in the loop

00:15:17.700 and respects enough to tell just the prime minister.

00:15:20.260 They don't need to tell him.

00:15:21.100 Corrupt or weak.

00:15:22.600 Yeah.

00:15:23.220 Also, do we have any idea

00:15:25.860 when the security services said

00:15:28.140 that Mandelson failed vetting?

00:15:31.500 Because if that were months ago,

00:15:34.780 that's even worse.

00:15:36.160 If it was yesterday, then maybe he has more of a...

00:15:40.000 Well, it said he was initially denied vetting clearance

00:15:42.240 in January 25.

00:15:44.220 So the timing on it is quite interesting as well

00:15:47.140 because what it seems like what happened was

00:15:49.380 he was going through,

00:15:51.560 Mandelson was going through the vetting process

00:15:53.460 and it takes a long time, weeks and weeks,

00:15:55.200 actually usually months,

00:15:57.220 months and months because they go through your life,

00:15:59.960 your whole life with a fine-tooth comb

00:16:01.640 and that will take months for MI6 to do that

00:16:05.340 and it was while that was still going on

00:16:07.840 that Mounson just announced him as the ambassador.

00:16:13.280 So it's sort of like a fait accompli thing.

00:16:16.000 And then after their vetting was done,

00:16:18.260 they realised that he had failed, effectively.

00:16:23.140 So more like a vote of confidence in his person by Starmer?

00:16:28.720 Something like that.

00:16:29.680 Or he was just told, pick him.

00:16:31.960 He was just told by who knows, like truly powerful people.

00:16:36.020 like you know well starmer doesn't seem to be barrack or something yeah well well the fifth

00:16:41.520 baron rothschild or just morgan but sweeney who everyone knows wanted him so that's the

00:16:46.240 non-conspiracy version starmer doesn't decide anything no does anyone believe starmer makes

00:16:50.020 any decisions not even on a sort of conspiracy level just on a just not how he is he's a sort

00:16:54.400 of he's just a rule follower he reads documents and then says what's in the document this is all

00:16:59.140 he does he's known for having no ideas like even boris johnson apparently would call up on a monday

00:17:04.220 morning hey why don't you do this star was known for never calling up with any initiative or ideas

00:17:08.500 apparently he's completely incurious as a person never ever curious about anything or why things

00:17:14.000 are the way they are anyone and doesn't care about any of his team because he's just not like that

00:17:17.300 and doesn't dream yes weird weird okay so one way if they knew that manderson was going to fail his

00:17:26.280 vetting one way around that is just sort of just announce it just do it and then that puts the

00:17:31.840 foreign office in a and MI6 in a difficult situation they've either got to then completely

00:17:36.360 go against their own government or just let it happen just let it slide and just and that seems

00:17:42.340 like some maybe something like that is what happened this is silly but what if Starmer's

00:17:47.160 only dream from now on was just a Peter Mandelson every night he could only have Hansi and it's just

00:17:51.620 ah Mandelson who like cost him his job he has to resign he only ever dreams about Mandelson

00:17:57.200 Damn you, Mandy.

00:17:59.440 If it weren't for you, I would have been one of the most popular prime ministers of all time.

00:18:04.580 How you mock me, Peter Mandelson.

00:18:07.020 All right, so all this is happening, and it makes Starmer look either like he's –

00:18:11.400 it makes him look like either he's lying or a complete incompetent.

00:18:15.400 It's got to be sort of one of those two things.

00:18:17.100 Now, everyone else has come out and said, you've got to resign, mate.

00:18:20.980 Conservative leader Olukemi Badenoch calls on the prime minister to resign

00:18:25.420 and alleges he misled Parliament

00:18:27.880 because he told the Commons three times

00:18:30.260 that, quote, full due process, quote, was followed.

00:18:33.180 And Ed Davey and Nigel and everyone else have all come out and say,

00:18:37.320 you lied to us in Parliament, Keir, you've got to resign now.

00:18:41.460 He's come out today and just,

00:18:43.340 or his chief of staff has come out and said,

00:18:44.800 no, that's not happening, I'm not going to.

00:18:47.340 If they had anyone at all who didn't have complications,

00:18:50.820 you know, he'd be gone.

00:18:51.780 You've got Streeting, who was mates of Mandelson,

00:18:54.580 You've got Rainer, who's still waiting for a tax thing to be resolved.

00:18:57.640 You've got Burnham, who's not got a seat.

00:19:00.140 You've got Miliband, who's Miliband.

00:19:02.060 And so they've all got something wrong with him.

00:19:03.580 Otherwise, he'd be gone.

00:19:04.840 Well, the other thing is, imagine you are one of those big beasts,

00:19:08.960 Miliband or Streeting or somebody.

00:19:12.420 You don't want that job before the local elections.

00:19:14.700 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:15.520 The mayor, they're very close now.

00:19:16.880 He'll be gone after that.

00:19:17.600 Right.

00:19:18.600 No one's going to try and coup him out of power right now

00:19:21.080 because that would just be terrible timing for them.

00:19:23.660 They would become new prime minister and then immediately be hit with a giant, giant humiliation and defeat.

00:19:29.540 No one's going to want that.

00:19:31.480 That's why I think he is going to stay for longer than lots of people expect.

00:19:36.180 Because when it comes to Starmer, you frequently hear people, listen to people saying,

00:19:41.300 well, he's not going to last the summer.

00:19:42.820 He's not going to last autumn.

00:19:44.400 He's not going to last this winter.

00:19:46.240 But things are going that, you know, towards a very bad direction.

00:19:51.400 I don't see how anyone would expect to change course

00:19:56.300 in a non-leftist way if they took the premiership from Starmer.

00:20:03.680 What do you mean in a non-leftist way?

00:20:06.220 Well, there are ways to fix the country,

00:20:09.900 but it's just not the leftist ones.

00:20:12.000 Yeah, but everyone who takes over will be taking it for the left.

00:20:14.820 Yeah, that's why I'm saying that in their mind, though,

00:20:17.200 They don't seem to be – I don't think they actually think

00:20:22.120 that they're going to make the situation better.

00:20:25.220 I still think Reyna's going to go for it the second the locals are over.

00:20:28.180 She's already indicated it.

00:20:30.740 Anyway, sorry.

00:20:32.560 Starmer insists he won't go.

00:20:36.060 That's one of the things.

00:20:39.200 There you go.

00:20:40.060 Starmer won't resign over Mandelson vetting Rao.

00:20:43.400 The other thing is when we watched that clip of him talking,

00:20:45.840 saying, I wasn't aware until this week.

00:20:50.200 Well, there's some reporting saying that they did, he just did.

00:20:56.400 So here's a tweet from the Independence political editor, David Maddox.

00:21:02.580 Here's a screenshot where David Maddox is talking to somebody called Tim

00:21:06.000 at the Foreign Office.

00:21:07.100 Hi, Tim.

00:21:07.880 I've been told by two sources now that Mandelson, in fact,

00:21:11.040 did not clear vetting, and this is back in September 2025,

00:21:15.400 He did not clear vetting with MI6, but the PM pushed his appointment anyway.

00:21:19.920 The problem was China, not Epstein, though.

00:21:21.980 That's interesting.

00:21:23.100 Is there any comment on this, David?

00:21:25.100 And Tim, whoever Tim is at the Foreign Office,

00:21:27.780 just replied with, vetting done by the Foreign Office in normal way.

00:21:33.300 It's interesting, he didn't take the name out.

00:21:34.720 Now everyone's just looking for, like, all the Tims at the Foreign Office.

00:21:37.400 Who's Tim? Tim who?

00:21:39.060 Yeah, and there's other tweets and other reports.

00:21:44.660 saying that, in fact, I think it was from that same guy,

00:21:47.880 or perhaps somebody at The Guardian, was saying,

00:21:50.260 the idea that Number 10 didn't know until this week is nonsense.

00:21:55.300 That's what they're reporting.

00:21:57.680 There's a number of different data points showing that Number 10

00:22:00.860 must have known that Mandy failed his security vetting long before this week.

00:22:09.300 So again, is he caught in a lie again?

00:22:11.280 Is number 10 caught in a liar, a liar on top of a liar on top of a liar?

00:22:15.660 Does anyone that will hang on to the end just blatantly lying?

00:22:18.060 It's Starmer.

00:22:18.740 He doesn't seem to care about any of this.

00:22:21.120 He just doesn't care.

00:22:22.080 It'll justify it to himself in some way.

00:22:24.520 It's more stable with it.

00:22:25.660 Remember last time he said, like,

00:22:26.920 the economy needs me to stay in place or something like that,

00:22:29.840 the international markets or something like that.

00:22:31.580 We need me to stay.

00:22:32.440 I think it's in the nation's interest that I stay for many, many years.

00:22:36.960 Again, it makes me think of Nixon.

00:22:38.400 I've done some long-form content on Nixon and the Watergate.

00:22:42.140 He was a complete liar.

00:22:43.960 What do you mean, a great man?

00:22:44.740 History's indicated him.

00:22:46.200 No, it hasn't.

00:22:47.520 Sorry, go on.

00:22:48.060 No, go on, go on, go on, go on.

00:22:49.500 Well, you know, they were after him because he was just too basic.

00:22:52.840 I don't know.

00:22:54.140 I read tweets.

00:22:55.760 I just think of some tweets.

00:22:57.640 No, he's a massive, massive liar.

00:22:59.980 He did some great things, though.

00:23:01.260 Nixon did.

00:23:01.660 Go on foreign policy, Cambodian.

00:23:02.700 He did a number of great things.

00:23:04.160 The salt talks.

00:23:05.920 As a president, in a number of ways, he was very good.

00:23:09.380 In a couple of ways, he was a complete lying scumbag, though.

00:23:12.260 Smart guy.

00:23:14.500 Anyway, when it came to Watergate stuff,

00:23:16.780 when it came to Watergate stuff,

00:23:18.460 he ended up in that position where he's lying to himself really badly,

00:23:23.360 really, really badly.

00:23:24.600 And there's layer upon layer upon layer upon layer of evidence

00:23:27.380 that he's lied and then piled liars on top of liars on top of liars.

00:23:30.520 And in the end, he's just sort of sitting on his own,

00:23:33.780 like in a darkened room in the West Wing almost,

00:23:35.840 like, no, I couldn't possibly have done that and said that.

00:23:39.220 It's on the tape, though, mate.

00:23:41.000 You did, though.

00:23:42.000 Are you of the opinion that it's relatively mild

00:23:43.660 compared to scandals today or not?

00:23:46.200 What Nixon did?

00:23:46.880 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:47.580 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:48.420 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:49.040 In the scheme of things, what Nixon did, the Watergate thing,

00:23:53.860 it's pretty shoddy and bad.

00:23:56.080 He probably didn't give the order to break in the plumbers.

00:24:00.520 What he did that was really bad was lie about it

00:24:03.780 and cover it up afterwards.

00:24:05.260 Something bad happened under his watch,

00:24:07.260 which he probably didn't do or order,

00:24:10.500 but then when it became clear to him that something bad

00:24:12.520 had gone on under his watch, he lied about it

00:24:15.040 and then lied about lying about it.

00:24:17.120 It was the liar that got him,

00:24:18.800 not the actual Watergate break-in itself.

00:24:22.120 Is it worse than Hillary Clinton's emails?

00:24:26.320 Anyway.

00:24:26.980 No, I don't think so.

00:24:29.020 I don't think so.

00:24:29.940 But anyway, when you're in power, when you're at the pinnacle of power, most people, most of the human psychology that lets you get to that position in the first place is the type of person that will cling on to it for dear life.

00:24:43.440 And I think that's what Starmer is like.

00:24:46.720 He won't give up on it until he's forced to, I would imagine.

00:24:50.840 but how can you honestly how can you have the dream of become the prime minister and not care

00:24:59.160 about the country because he surely can't be looking at the country right now and say i want

00:25:03.980 to preside over this i know it's it's it's mad all right there's a fair amount more that could

00:25:11.560 be said a few more layers to this and a bit more sort of the rumor mill going on but i have to

00:25:15.140 leave it there because i've run out of time but um i'm sure the mandy affair won't end well it's

00:25:20.240 not the end of it right there'll be more things on all of this i'm sure i feel like it'll just

00:25:25.860 keep going until star was forced to go it's kind of like boris at the end there were just so many

00:25:29.580 things and a lot of them were quite silly there was a cake thing there was chris pincher but just

00:25:34.140 the sheer the press just decided i'm not sure they've totally decided to go after star but

00:25:38.040 they've sort of semi-decided if they go for him it's over and there's lots of other things about

00:25:41.780 him that are questionable that haven't come out we'll leave there so we don't go end up in the

00:25:45.940 The Ukrainian boys and their arson.

00:25:51.560 Are you arson?

00:25:52.200 I was worried what you were going to say.

00:25:54.600 Do you want to read these?

00:25:56.560 All right.

00:25:57.020 Yeah.

00:25:57.380 Well, if you could actually.

00:25:58.360 My boo's in the way.

00:25:59.120 You don't mind.

00:26:00.000 14 Barber says, breakfast with Bo.

00:26:03.040 Any more potential guests?

00:26:05.380 JCVD or Jackie Chan maybe?

00:26:07.500 I know they're not exactly relevant to the papers,

00:26:09.760 but we nearly got Jackie in a deal with China.

00:26:12.860 Yeah, there will be more guests.

00:26:13.940 We're definitely having more guests.

00:26:15.020 So we'll let you know 100%.

00:26:17.700 Yeah, Jean-Claude Van Damme.

00:26:19.600 That's JCVD.

00:26:22.020 You also need Sly and Arnie.

00:26:25.740 Okay, Cookie Boy 23.

00:26:28.100 Another it never crossed my desk moment for Starmer.

00:26:31.460 How many is that now?

00:26:33.560 Cookie Boy 23.

00:26:36.600 If Starmer jacks in now,

00:26:39.400 he might make the next season of Celebrity Traders.

00:26:41.980 and Bone Apple Tea Party always felt sorry for Nixon.

00:26:47.900 He assumed he'd get the same treatment

00:26:49.640 about misdemeanors as the Kennedys.

00:26:51.920 Yes, but he wasn't part of the sort of

00:26:53.380 old boys network as much.

00:26:54.680 He was an outsider, self-made man in many ways.

00:26:57.620 Yeah, he just came from Whittier, California.

00:26:59.760 He wasn't part of the Eastern Madison Avenue set.

00:27:03.300 But yeah, the leftist establishment did destroy him.

00:27:08.400 His re-election was a landslide.

00:27:11.140 His re-election was in like 72, is it?

00:27:13.420 An absolute landslide.

00:27:15.020 But yeah, they gunned for him with everything they've got.

00:27:17.240 And ultimately, he was on tape lying.

00:27:21.120 Was it only one state that he didn't win?

00:27:23.780 I don't know.

00:27:24.520 I can't remember the exact electoral college.

00:27:27.120 I can't remember.

00:27:27.540 I don't know.

00:27:28.000 Right.

00:27:29.380 We have good news for South Africa,

00:27:32.140 especially concerning Julius Malema, the leader of the EFF.

00:27:36.200 He has been sentenced to five years in jail.

00:27:39.640 He may appeal, he will appeal, but there are high probabilities that he won't become a member of parliament, he won't be a member of parliament in the future.

00:27:51.200 Right, let's give some context about it because we have spoken a bit about South Africa and the state of the country as well as how it teaches us lessons in the Western world about what to do and what not to do.

00:28:07.780 And we need to give you some context in order to understand what exactly happened, who we are talking about, and why is that a good day for South Africa?

00:28:19.820 And also people who are following news, we were happy.

00:28:23.260 I was happy when I saw what happened.

00:28:25.480 Right.

00:28:25.780 So we have done a number of interviews.

00:28:27.860 Josh has interviewed Ernst van Zyl from the AfriForum Institute that we are going to talk

00:28:35.600 about. And they scored a major win in this case because they charged Julius Malema. They

00:28:42.180 initiated the legal battle against him. So that was a major victory. I also interviewed

00:28:48.820 Robert Herzog and also interviewed Morningshot. Many of you in South Africa know them. And

00:28:57.780 are listening to them. So check them out, check all these interviews out. So we have been

00:29:04.080 following the news about South Africa for a while. So we are going to talk about the leader of the

00:29:10.740 EFF party. It's basically a communist party in South Africa that is talking about land expropriation

00:29:21.460 without compensation. And it isn't, sadly, it isn't the only party who is talking about it. So

00:29:26.720 It's more like, you know, the kulaks are bad.

00:29:29.740 Let's just do what we want with them for the greater good.

00:29:33.340 So here we are going to talk about Julius Malema.

00:29:35.700 This is the leader of the EFF and the sentencing that he received for an incident in 2018

00:29:42.440 where he fired a gun.

00:29:45.080 Here, let us look at this in public.

00:29:56.720 So he was in a stadium, he was talking to his fans, celebrating the fifth anniversary

00:30:06.860 of his party, if the information I saw is correct.

00:30:12.340 And he is famous for chanting constantly, kill the boar, kill the farmer.

00:30:17.220 That's his catchphrase.

00:30:19.220 That's his catchphrase, yes, and he is constantly talking about it.

00:30:22.980 He doesn't seem particularly half-hearted when he's singing about it.

00:30:26.100 No, he seems to be really into it.

00:30:27.860 Yeah.

00:30:28.600 It comes from the soul.

00:30:30.200 You see that he really means it.

00:30:31.920 I was going to say earlier, like the idea of land appropriation without compensation.

00:30:37.660 That's a very sanitized way of saying the reality of what that is.

00:30:42.620 Yes.

00:30:43.200 Isn't it?

00:30:43.800 Yes.

00:30:44.020 What it really is, is going there and killing the boar and the farmer and any white person

00:30:50.040 and stealing their property.

00:30:51.820 That's what that really means, isn't it?

00:30:53.780 Yes. And what is interesting is that you have the ANC that is right now the ruling party of South Africa. In fact, I think it's ruling South Africa for decades.

00:31:04.820 That's the Mandela's party, isn't it?

00:31:06.140 Yes. They are now at basically the lowest of their popularity. But now with the EFF and what is going on, they will get some boost in their numbers.

00:31:19.780 but essentially they are trying to be a bit to play good cup bad cup and the ANC is trying to

00:31:27.460 appear constitutional uh but uh he he's honest he's brutally honest about it and he will i will

00:31:35.140 show you footage where he does say that there will be killing he's brutally honest about it so

00:31:41.080 in case you didn't get it from the song kill the boy kill the boy like no we actually mean killing

00:31:45.600 so yeah i thought you did oh god yeah yeah he does mean killing and the question is how emboldened

00:31:50.520 does he feel in order to say it out loud and what sort of society does allow him allows him to just

00:31:59.060 constantly say such things and get away with it and one of the things here is that um he wasn't

00:32:05.760 persecuted necessarily for incitement to violence they did say that he he did he did commit free

00:32:14.420 speech and stuff but there's it's a bit worrying you'd expect a bit more from from the state but

00:32:20.700 it's a good day he he did got a five-year sentence so let's let's see look at the light at the end of

00:32:26.780 the tunnel for just firing that gun it's a standard third world celebration yeah just shooting

00:32:31.360 i mean obviously i think this man is a complete psychopath the lowest of the low um and great to

00:32:40.540 see him in jail that's lovely maybe his political career completely ended i don't know but you get

00:32:46.300 five years for for doing that in south africa i would have thought the court i would have thought

00:32:51.200 a court would just let him off with a fine or a suspended sentence or something you may have years

00:32:55.940 just for that it seems i don't know obviously i'm not that familiar with south african justice but

00:33:01.780 the question is that there are some people who think that this was a very small sentence in a

00:33:06.380 It was very, a light sentence.

00:33:09.220 All right.

00:33:09.720 Let's look at the context.

00:33:11.480 Sure, sure.

00:33:12.020 So he says he's chanting constantly, kill the boar, kill the farmer.

00:33:15.860 And the charges included discharging a firearm in a built up or public area without sufficient reason,

00:33:22.900 unlawful possession of a firearm, and unlawful possession of ammunition.

00:33:26.920 And he says, if they send me to prison, I will appeal immediately.

00:33:30.300 Right. So it's a bit more complex than that because he is essentially calling quite, he is committing incitement to violence in several ways, not just the song. He has made several other statements. And in the interviews I did with Robert Herzog and Morning Shot, they said that every time that he does this, it's an indirect way of him telling people to actually go and do it.

00:33:59.440 And when it comes to farm murders, there is a spike in farm murders immediately after he goes out in these chants.

00:34:09.880 Not even that indirect, is it?

00:34:11.540 I was going to say.

00:34:12.020 Quite direct.

00:34:12.800 Kill the farmer, then they do.

00:34:14.460 Yes, but he is the leader of the party and he is using this as a facade for plausible deniability.

00:34:22.120 Because he says, this is basically a revolutionary song and I'm just singing the song.

00:34:26.080 Everyone understands that

00:34:28.200 In that context

00:34:30.340 Just doing that

00:34:31.740 Is essentially incitement for violence

00:34:34.040 It's a way in which

00:34:36.440 He has a superficial

00:34:37.940 I got it, it's like when you put the n-word

00:34:40.200 It's in the lyrics

00:34:41.220 He's saying kill the farmer

00:34:44.880 That's just the song

00:34:45.740 You are choosing to sing that song at your rallies concert

00:34:48.360 Don't you know any other songs?

00:34:49.660 It makes a defense a bit more plausible

00:34:51.900 What about Sweet Caroline?

00:34:53.100 Living on a prayer

00:34:54.260 Living on a prayer mate

00:34:55.980 But it's a classic thing that all throughout history is that you've got the political wing of a movement and a paramilitary wing of the movement, like perhaps Sinn Féin in the IRA, for example, or Hamas.

00:35:08.500 Or there's a whole number of things like in the Rwandan genocide, or I'm thinking in like the Serbian-Yugoslavian wars.

00:35:15.500 You've got the political wing that says, we're just saying words.

00:35:17.680 We're not doing anything.

00:35:18.520 We haven't got anything to do with people getting hurt and blown up and shot or anything.

00:35:22.260 We're just, we've done nothing wrong.

00:35:24.260 We're just talking politics.

00:35:25.980 When, in fact, of course, they're actually, it's not even indirect, really.

00:35:30.460 It's almost directly saying.

00:35:31.840 This has got to be the least subtle version of that I've ever seen.

00:35:34.100 Yeah, and I was just going to say exactly that.

00:35:36.060 And this, there's like no subtlety whatsoever.

00:35:38.280 There's no real firewall, no...

00:35:40.440 It's like Jerry Adams showing up with a balaclava.

00:35:42.700 Like, it's like, oh, you're saying it.

00:35:45.660 So let us, in case you haven't watched this video, let us refresh your, let us show it to you.

00:35:55.980 So it's quite explicit.

00:36:17.260 I don't know if he's trying to imitate a bit of an Arnie accent.

00:36:21.800 Kill the boar.

00:36:23.420 It sounds like Austrian, like you're in an...

00:36:25.940 But, you know, if he goes kill the boy, kill the farmer and poo-pah-pah, poo-pah-pah, it is incitement of violence.

00:36:34.660 Let's not kill ourselves.

00:36:36.200 Of course it is.

00:36:37.360 Yeah.

00:36:38.040 Okay.

00:36:38.720 So we had here the court and the conviction in September 2025.

00:36:45.420 And it has several layers here.

00:36:48.440 It says here, South Africa's far-brand MP found guilty of hate speech.

00:36:52.360 Now, what is interesting is that when you look at South Africa, it's a testbed for wokeness, in a way, decades ago, because all the anti-racist, anti-white narratives, and also tied in with third worldism, in a way, have been waging warfare in that country.

00:37:16.800 It's speed run starting decades ago there.

00:37:20.820 Exactly.

00:37:21.680 It's a glimpse of our potential future.

00:37:23.740 Yeah, it's the exact opposite of Japan.

00:37:26.540 Japan is on the other side saying, no, I don't want to start this.

00:37:30.500 South Africa is what Japan says ultimately no to.

00:37:34.100 Right, so here, what happens also is that they have, if you look at the language they're using,

00:37:40.900 it's entirely, it's a language that is used just to talk to first year or third year, second, third year undergraduates in Western universities.

00:37:50.040 They're using a very artificial language. I'm not talking about the chanting, but when they're

00:37:55.760 talking about anti-racism and racism in South Africa, they're using a language that merits

00:38:02.880 the question, who are you actually addressing? You're addressing a Western audience, Western

00:38:07.560 ecophobic audience. So if you look at the Western press, like BBC and the Reuters that I'm going to

00:38:14.220 show you an article from. They are trying to be very lenient towards him. They're trying to

00:38:20.400 essentially say, well, some, yeah, but whatever he says, it's internalized whiteness. It's the

00:38:25.840 white man's fault. Yeah. Have you noticed, I mean, I'm sure you have from what you've said,

00:38:29.620 but the attitude towards South Africa is still like that. It's incredibly lenient no matter

00:38:34.060 what they do. You know, you talk to your average sort of liberal. I have friends of friends who

00:38:37.520 like know people there. They just can't believe like the refusal to see what's happening still.

00:38:42.140 I mean they won't let Elon Musk have Starlink there because he's white

00:38:45.540 Yeah

00:38:46.120 But people still because of apartheid they just won't ever

00:38:50.240 They can just do anything and it's still the white lib imagination is like

00:38:54.140 Oh it's all fine

00:38:55.240 It's just an excuse for everything

00:38:57.740 Just everything at some point there was apartheid 30 something years ago

00:39:02.540 Well yeah I mean that was decades ago

00:39:06.860 It's the classic thing when people will talk about the reality of the so-called farm murders

00:39:12.000 let's call it what it is a pretty slow burn genocide is what they are really in my opinion

00:39:18.240 that's how i'd characterize it sue me um sometimes when people talk about those you'll get the the

00:39:25.260 left-leaning globalist types saying no it's just a conspiracy theory there's no it's not it's not

00:39:31.000 anything like that it's no more than any other sort of murders and things particularly or in fact

00:39:36.480 about i don't know probably about two years ago maybe two three years ago there was a particularly

00:39:40.380 bad spate a spike in farm murders i saw the bbc did an article did a piece about farm murders

00:39:49.240 and the angle of the piece the angle of the of the piece they were doing was no violence from

00:39:56.860 whites on blacks in south africa has spiked just just divorced from reality completely divorced

00:40:03.060 from reality there are some yeah the endless giving south africa a free pass endlessly even

00:40:08.480 Crazily so.

00:40:09.780 Endless worship of Mandela's sick as well.

00:40:12.260 Crazily so, yeah.

00:40:12.980 But also look at the framing.

00:40:14.680 It's always about woke notions.

00:40:16.220 It's about hate speech instead of incitement to violence.

00:40:18.880 And he says this explicitly here.

00:40:21.700 Let's look at that.

00:40:22.960 Must never be scared to kill.

00:40:27.140 A revolution demands that at some point there must be killing

00:40:32.360 because the killing is part of a revolutionary act.

00:40:36.080 and he's leading a party that he says it's going to be revolutionary so he says

00:40:40.820 i want to kill i mean that's straight out of mao yeah that could almost be a mao i think maybe is

00:40:47.700 even basically a maoist slogan you have to you have to get dirty and kill people in order for

00:40:54.960 this thing to happen so that's not hate speech that's in direct incitement of violence it says

00:40:59.900 it's just a matter of time i'm just lurking waiting for the opportunity to strike that is

00:41:05.680 what he said really unsubtly lurking telling them i'm going to kill them all yeah and here he was

00:41:11.620 convicted for uh firing a gun in public in september 2025 they say south african opposition

00:41:19.320 politician julie smalaba has been found guilty of illegal possession of a gun and firing it in public

00:41:24.040 and they were talking about this and also the conviction of again they frame it as hate speech

00:41:29.760 and stuff. And now we had the trial for the occasion for the sentencing. Here we have Afri

00:41:38.460 Forum talking about the conviction in September last year. We also did a segment about it. Josh

00:41:44.080 did, my colleague and friend Josh Firm. And the charges included, as we said before, discharging

00:41:51.980 a firearm in a built-up or public space without sufficient cause, unlawful possession of a firearm

00:41:57.080 and unlawful possession of ammunition.

00:42:01.060 And here he got five years sentencing.

00:42:04.440 And let us look a bit at Reuters.

00:42:07.020 It says here, as the heading was unfolding,

00:42:09.620 hundreds of supporters of his far-left economic freedom fighters group

00:42:13.780 gathered outside the court wearing the party's trademark red berets

00:42:17.360 and singing campaign songs.

00:42:19.920 And let me find exactly what I wanted to mention here.

00:42:25.100 It says something really commie-friendly.

00:42:27.080 i mean the anc are basically commies yeah they're even further left than them

00:42:34.360 yeah i'll move on because we don't have that much time but so what happened was that he was

00:42:42.280 he said that he's going to appeal the prosecutor here says it was by the grace of god that no one

00:42:48.460 was hurt and uh there was uh she he basically said that he is going to appeal and his response

00:42:57.420 was basically i've seen her ugly white face for too long about the magistrate old tactic

00:43:05.180 nice guy seems like a nice guy and he says he's going to go to the supreme court

00:43:10.600 and let us look here at what he says how he says he's going to respond

00:43:14.660 The power of the EFF will prepare from all the fronts because we are fighting the enemy, and the enemy is white supremacists.

00:43:28.960 We can tell you now, no sober judge will ever agree that a person shoot one bullet and then is sentenced for five years.

00:43:41.440 It is because she has not read her own judgment to know that a reasonable, normal, presiding officer will never come to that determination.

00:43:55.860 So, comrades, we are done with her.

00:43:59.760 That's why when she said to me, you can live now on a free bay, I looked at her and I said bye-bye.

00:44:07.940 because i've seen an ugly face for too long so i'm going i will no longer appear before that

00:44:16.880 ugly white face i'm going to the highest court where they don't use emotions they use the law

00:44:25.520 so basically he did the meme is just like saying the law is white supremacy

00:44:30.160 that's what he is doing yeah and the back to the question of whether his sentencing was

00:44:38.440 was light or not i think it was extremely light and generous because this isn't just someone who

00:44:44.620 just fired a gun for a celebration you know which is basically a retarded move but people some people

00:44:49.480 do it it's someone who is constantly calling for violence that's incitement for violence

00:44:57.640 And he's very honest and clear about the fact that he is lurking, basically.

00:45:03.520 He's just waiting for the opportunity to kill.

00:45:07.000 He has said it explicitly.

00:45:09.780 There is no hiding behind anything about it.

00:45:15.140 He is explicit.

00:45:16.860 There's no way of just trying to spin this in order to make it something different.

00:45:22.120 He is explicit about calling for violence.

00:45:24.540 It's just that he's saying, I'm waiting for the opportune moment.

00:45:27.640 That seems worse than the shooting in the air.

00:45:29.520 I mean, we talk about incitement.

00:45:31.880 He's there with a crowd.

00:45:33.520 They're all heated up.

00:45:34.440 He's saying, go and kill the farmer.

00:45:36.080 Why is that not incitement?

00:45:37.620 It's certainly worse than a tweet from Lucy Conley, isn't it?

00:45:40.200 It's saying they're there, they're ready, they're hyped up.

00:45:42.360 He's saying, go and kill the boar.

00:45:44.900 The only point I would make,

00:45:46.780 and don't think I'm trying to play in defence

00:45:50.300 on behalf of this scumbag, of course not,

00:45:52.520 but there's one thing to shoot a gun in the air illegally,

00:45:55.280 okay and then there's the crime for that and being charged and sentenced for that crime

00:45:59.340 and then there's the incitement to violence and hate speech and stuff yeah maybe it's just easier

00:46:05.820 to get him on this thing again i'm happy that he's been put in prison and stuff and hopefully

00:46:11.480 rots then they throw away the key and they bury him under the present whatever but

00:46:14.580 it is that thing of charging him for the not the actual i think though in every case even if even

00:46:23.980 Even if we try to explain it as an isolated incident, we will have to bear in mind contextual

00:46:29.480 factors such as, was he inebriated?

00:46:32.420 Was he of sound mind?

00:46:34.420 Was he trying to kill someone and he accidentally missed?

00:46:37.760 In every case, there are circumstantial factors that people have to take into account.

00:46:44.180 In this case, we aren't talking about a random dude, we are talking about the leader of the

00:46:48.100 fourth party in polling, so who is basically saying, I'm waiting for the moment to strike.

00:46:54.880 So maybe that's what they did, but still, that's why I'm saying that for me, five years

00:46:59.020 is a very lenient thing.

00:47:01.460 But good thing is that if he gets this and if he's convicted, if the appeal doesn't go

00:47:06.700 anywhere and he is convicted for more than a year, he won't be able to become, to be

00:47:11.920 an MP in the future.

00:47:14.620 That said, obviously, that's conditional upon the law staying the same in the future.

00:47:21.960 So he goes here down with AfriForum.

00:47:24.220 He says, the response is that convicted felon Julius Malema knowingly compliments AfriForum

00:47:33.220 if AfriForum is blamed by the EFF for ensuring equality before the law by insisting that

00:47:39.180 politicians should also be prosecuted if they transgress the law.

00:47:44.380 place people's lives in danger with the reckless use of firearm. Then we record it as a compliment.

00:47:49.800 Nobody is above the law. Well, and again, they are going to try and say that the law is white

00:47:55.920 supremacy and, you know. And here there were some interesting confrontations in court,

00:48:03.020 if you want to check it, but it's a bit awkward. Here Malema is giving the microphone to his son,

00:48:12.100 who is continuing with down with Afrikaans, down, down with the clerk, down, down with his racist

00:48:19.360 magistrate, down. So he's continuing this. Aren't they like 30 years out of date? De clerk?

00:48:26.560 Apartheid? Yeah, but apparently they're never going to get over it because that's the founding

00:48:33.180 myth of the permanent excuse for inaction, corruption and disintegration. By the way,

00:48:38.420 When Malema's in charge, the country's going to be so good.

00:48:40.920 It's going to work so well, so functional.

00:48:44.800 And here they are also making an indirect threat here.

00:48:49.540 Malema is saying, the only thing we need to do is to make sure

00:48:52.440 that this prosecutor who is arrogant and suffers from short man syndrome

00:48:57.020 is taught a lesson.

00:49:00.660 Hashtag hands off Malema.

00:49:02.740 I consider this to be a threat, basically.

00:49:05.260 I don't know if you disagree with me or not, but also the National Prosecuting Authority has noted with concern that the circulation of content on X purporting to represent the EFF, in which statements contain serious threats directed at the prosecutor involved in a matter before the coup gone by original court, and they are strongly condemning it.

00:49:28.120 So sounds like I'm not alone in doing this.

00:49:31.500 And one of the things that has to do with the political ramifications of it is that there are significant concerns that the EFF is very much person bound.

00:49:44.120 It's a party that is bound around the figure of Julius Malema.

00:49:48.360 So if he's going to be in prison for five years and he won't be able to be an MP in the future, maybe a substantial amount of the 6% to 12% of support that the EFF has goes to the ANC and other parties.

00:50:08.420 So that could give a boost to the ANC, which I'm sure that the supporters of DA won't want.

00:50:17.640 But at least it's a good thing to see people being met with justice.

00:50:22.400 And I hope his appeal goes nowhere and that he, in fact, goes to jail because he is basically

00:50:29.020 someone who is incredibly corrosive for South Africa.

00:50:33.940 And he is calling for violence.

00:50:36.360 And he's quite adamant about it.

00:50:37.940 So, good news.

00:50:39.340 A psychopath.

00:50:40.520 Yeah.

00:50:42.280 Insane person, really, let's be honest.

00:50:44.660 Yeah.

00:50:45.220 And Fictagius says here, if a reform councillor said what Ricky Jones said exactly in the same circumstances,

00:50:51.800 would they get the same judgment Ricky did?

00:50:54.600 Oh, hell no.

00:50:55.700 Prison same say.

00:50:57.420 Yes.

00:50:58.020 And obviously that goes for other parties, councillors of other potential parties.

00:51:04.500 Remind people about Ricky Jones.

00:51:06.220 Yeah, he was the Labour councillor

00:51:09.160 Who imitated a throat slashing

00:51:12.680 With his hands

00:51:16.000 He did not say

00:51:16.980 He said we have to cut their throats

00:51:19.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah

00:51:20.560 No, but he did this because

00:51:22.460 He said that I was speaking metaphorically

00:51:24.960 And all this stuff

00:51:25.580 And said, dude, you actually did it

00:51:27.960 Stop lying

00:51:29.240 Right

00:51:30.620 Okay, cool

00:51:33.060 Well, let's talk about the fake

00:51:36.220 Gay asylum seekers.

00:51:38.580 Atheist.

00:51:39.160 Fake and gay.

00:51:40.760 Atheist, gay and abused asylum seekers.

00:51:43.420 Yes, domestic abused, atheist.

00:51:45.160 Bad luck, isn't it, for them?

00:51:46.340 They've had a real rough time of it lately.

00:51:47.880 Unfortunate.

00:51:48.160 They lost their faith, then they got beat and then they became gay.

00:51:52.000 All nonsense, of course.

00:51:53.300 And you may have heard about it before because it's not really a new phenomenon.

00:51:55.560 What's quite new is the BBC are admitting it and have noticed it.

00:51:59.460 That's quite new.

00:52:00.340 And some of the details are also quite shocking.

00:52:02.580 So, all right, let's have a look.

00:52:04.340 So this is a bogus website, stage protest and pretend atheist inside the fake asylum industry.

00:52:10.040 And they sent in this undercover reporter and they found all sorts from fake news websites to stage political protest, bogus medical conditions.

00:52:17.740 Asylum seekers and the advisors helping them are using an array of fabricated evidence to bolster their fake claims.

00:52:22.900 It all amounts to a sham industry, which includes charging migrants for advice on how to pose as gay to claim asylum.

00:52:28.460 Other techniques include paying to write articles in atheist magazines

00:52:31.420 and hiring someone to pretend to be a same-sex partner.

00:52:35.060 So there's so much we can get into.

00:52:36.780 They go to Mile End in East London and they send in their undercover reporter posing as a Bangladeshi student

00:52:42.820 and they meet this guy, Zahid Hassan Akhand, who calls himself a barrister but is not actually a practicing barrister.

00:52:50.140 All very dodgy already.

00:52:51.940 um and some of the things that he offered were um so between a two and three grand to get the

00:52:59.120 type of evidence you need there's a list somewhere of things that he offers uh for a legal fee of

00:53:04.000 1500 it helped them preparing your application preparing you for the interview taking repeated

00:53:07.760 mock interviews but he says they'll need to create evidence and that's where it would cost two or

00:53:12.620 three grand to get the type of evidence that you want but this guy's happy to help and um if the

00:53:19.080 reporter was to declare himself an atheist the process would start with making posts on social

00:53:22.680 media insulting islam or the prophet muhammad and the guy says to him religious clerics will start

00:53:28.060 making comments threatening to kill you then you'll see that your evidence has been created

00:53:31.180 so that's how you know when the clerics are threatening to kill you like this is exactly

00:53:35.360 what we needed now you're going to get a much more realistic application and so maybe we can

00:53:39.860 have a quick look at the video where he's telling him how how to go about it the only cover reporter

00:53:43.480 or is being spoken to.

00:54:13.480 Whatever it is, I'm sorry.

00:54:15.480 If you're an atheist, you don't know the system.

00:54:17.480 You don't know the system.

00:54:19.480 You don't know the system.

00:54:21.480 You don't know the system.

00:54:23.480 You don't know the system.

00:54:25.480 You don't know the system.

00:54:27.480 So one route is pretend you're an atheist and start writing on social media.

00:54:33.480 I mean...

00:54:35.480 Alright.

00:54:37.480 It's completely shameless, isn't it?

00:54:39.480 Absolutely, absolutely shameless.

00:54:41.480 All for Gibbs.

00:54:43.480 Also, they can live here and make more money

00:54:45.640 than they could ever dream of in Bangladesh.

00:54:47.900 Yeah, yeah, and Pakistan and all these other countries.

00:54:51.120 Yeah, all the other countries.

00:54:52.800 Like, you can't send me back to Syria or Iraq

00:54:55.460 because they will torture and maybe even kill me

00:54:58.560 for being an atheist.

00:54:59.920 And we, people at the Home Office, just go,

00:55:02.360 oh, yeah, okay, yeah, you've got to stay here forever then.

00:55:05.640 You've done a social media post.

00:55:07.180 How could that be faked?

00:55:08.420 But there is the other bit, though.

00:55:09.560 It's also they're thinking of how are we going

00:55:13.300 to respond to people who will call for their deportations

00:55:16.580 if they commit crimes.

00:55:18.320 Well, they can't go back because they're gay.

00:55:20.540 They can't go back because they're atheists.

00:55:22.360 They can't go back because they don't have chicken nuggets there.

00:55:26.140 Yeah, so it suits the sort of activist judges and the system.

00:55:29.880 Well, they have got chicken nuggets there.

00:55:31.400 They're just not as tasty as British chicken nuggets.

00:55:34.500 I mean, you're right, because they all went through.

00:55:36.480 One theme that keeps coming up here is like,

00:55:38.140 oh, yeah, I've never had an application rejected.

00:55:39.840 So all these people, it's never failed, this incredible scheme.

00:55:43.300 The Home Office will just take anything these people say

00:55:46.060 and go, oh, yeah, okay, tick, you can stay.

00:55:48.400 Bring your whole family then, in fact, now.

00:55:50.540 Yeah, because Stelios is implying the political motivation

00:55:52.960 is there to not see the obvious.

00:55:55.520 So the political route was difficult, Akan said,

00:55:57.400 requiring a legal case to be made against the applicant

00:55:59.180 in their home country.

00:56:00.440 Much easier was pretending to be gay

00:56:02.080 because they will not dig too much into your past story.

00:56:04.640 The gay cases, it's private, but politics and atheism are public.

00:56:07.940 I think atheism seems about the same to me.

00:56:10.500 So establishing that is a bit difficult.

00:56:12.440 So he said we could connect you with people

00:56:14.120 we know who do these things.

00:56:16.560 So for a fake gay claim,

00:56:18.340 the kind of evidence they provide

00:56:19.340 includes membership in different clubs,

00:56:20.960 taking you to different clubs.

00:56:22.440 Since in his interview,

00:56:23.660 you'll be asked which clubs you attend

00:56:24.820 and similar questions.

00:56:25.960 You'll also be given a partner

00:56:26.960 and that partner will provide a letter saying,

00:56:28.720 yes, he was my partner.

00:56:30.360 Well, that's infallible then.

00:56:33.040 So that's how you pretend to be gay.

00:56:34.620 Gay for pay.

00:56:37.020 If you go to those associations,

00:56:38.540 you will not get caught out.

00:56:39.440 Most of the people there are not gay.

00:56:40.760 and the reporter says have you dealt with similar cases where you know they're not gay or atheists

00:56:45.520 but it was successful everyone is being successful god willing akhan responded if you listen and get

00:56:50.780 the evidence arranged properly it will be successful amazing and um it's ultimately

00:56:55.920 all just ultimately so they can live here get benefits here use the nhs yeah maybe have a job

00:57:02.780 where it just pays a lot more than what they would get in by the end or wherever yeah it's all that

00:57:08.940 It's all just to sponge off us.

00:57:10.860 By the end of the three articles I read on this,

00:57:12.440 I was just furious.

00:57:13.520 I was just like...

00:57:13.880 Yeah, of course, yeah.

00:57:14.720 Death penalty.

00:57:15.680 It's infuriating, yeah.

00:57:17.400 He told him to first decide whether you will do it

00:57:19.740 on atheism grounds or on gay grounds.

00:57:22.060 Exactly.

00:57:22.660 Then I will draw you a full outline.

00:57:24.260 Pick atheist or gay, and then we're ready to go.

00:57:28.260 Because it's not like it's...

00:57:30.220 I mean, rather, it is a zero-sum game.

00:57:33.340 For every NHS appointment they get,

00:57:35.120 for every job they get,

00:57:36.280 it's one less for the people that are already here isn't it yeah yeah so it's not just like

00:57:42.040 it's just like an endless gravy train and uh we're just being mean by not sharing it with

00:57:47.480 everyone else in the whole world it's not that is it it's not how it goes the thing that's most

00:57:51.760 infuriating to me perhaps the element of it is that in the first instance anyway we had all these

00:57:58.200 things out of sort of benevolence out of the goodness of our heart to let certain types of

00:58:05.840 asylum seekers genuine asylum seekers people that were genuinely fleeing from persecution stuff

00:58:11.460 and they're just absolutely taking making a complete mockery out of everything it just

00:58:17.180 couldn't be any more shameless any more sort of morally disgusting right moral there's a complete

00:58:22.420 moral vacuum i don't think these people even know what morals are i know it is as disgusting as it

00:58:26.260 could possibly be legal advisors help migrants pose as gay to get asylum undercover bbc investigation

00:58:31.580 fines so this is the more detail on the gay part so um there's a whole list of things they do here

00:58:39.400 so again their undercover reporter went in they found that one law firm charged up to seven grand

00:58:44.880 to bring a fabricated asylum claim and promised that the chance of refusal by the home office

00:58:48.180 was very low fake asylum seekers visited gps pretending to be depressed in order to get

00:58:52.660 medical evidence to bolster their cases one even lying about being hiv positive that one seems more

00:58:58.120 like something you're going to have to prove.

00:58:59.160 But one immigration advisor boasted that she had spent more than 17 years

00:59:02.480 helping bring fake claims and said she could arrange for someone

00:59:04.560 to pretend they'd had a gay sexual relationship with a client.

00:59:07.520 One undercover reporter was even told he could bring his wife over from Pakistan

00:59:12.200 once he got asylum in the UK, and she could then make a fake claim

00:59:15.060 pretending to be a lesbian.

00:59:16.680 And that one comes up later.

00:59:17.560 It's absolutely shocking.

00:59:20.180 Can I just make a point about this?

00:59:22.780 Because I've seen this in the news cycle the last couple of days.

00:59:25.060 just to stress the point

00:59:27.280 that this isn't a small thing

00:59:31.840 this is a small number of cases like this

00:59:33.840 that the BBC's just happened to find

00:59:36.620 it's thousands and thousands and thousands of people

00:59:39.340 every single year doing this

00:59:40.880 a giant industry of the people offering to help them

00:59:44.940 it's not just one or two

00:59:48.440 it's a massive thing

00:59:51.380 a blight on our society

00:59:54.340 it's been going on for decades i mean she says 17 years there so yeah um yeah and again this one's

01:00:02.000 saying you know fee of 1500 or further 2000 3000 to create evidence and this is an incredible video

01:00:09.460 about it so they basically went to an event in a becton and they just they admit at the event i

01:00:17.920 mean look at the picture for a start are these people gay or they do they all look exactly like

01:00:22.220 How can we tell? Sorry.

01:00:25.480 Because they're not dressed well.

01:00:26.660 You can see from the bottom half.

01:00:28.660 It's completely obvious.

01:00:30.820 This guy explains it here.

01:00:31.960 These are people at the event just blatantly saying,

01:00:34.500 nah, there's no gays here.

01:00:36.600 One after another, those attending tell our undercover reporter

01:00:40.140 that many people at the meeting are not really gay.

01:00:52.220 Nobody is gay here.

01:01:04.300 Can I make a point?

01:01:06.380 I don't even care if you are gay.

01:01:08.400 If you're from a country that persecutes homosexuality,

01:01:12.100 that's your problem?

01:01:13.060 That's not the British state's problem, is it?

01:01:15.500 Sounds like a you problem.

01:01:16.580 Yeah.

01:01:17.160 You live in Bangladesh or Syria or somewhere

01:01:20.020 and it's a problem for you.

01:01:22.220 Yeah, that's your problem.

01:01:25.220 How is that our problem now?

01:01:27.540 Right, you've hit on it there.

01:01:28.320 You can just physically get here and say,

01:01:30.120 I'm gay, you can't send me back.

01:01:31.540 Really?

01:01:32.240 You're going to manipulate us with that?

01:01:34.560 Yeah, behind all of this is the incredibly lefty assumptions

01:01:38.380 that if you're depressed, oh, well, if you're depressed,

01:01:40.700 you should have said, obviously, you can come to the country

01:01:42.680 and do anything you like.

01:01:43.380 It's like, well, no.

01:01:45.320 So, yeah, behind it all is the assumption

01:01:46.760 that these things are automatic passes, being gay, being depressed.

01:01:49.980 So it's like, not really.

01:01:51.900 No.

01:01:52.220 no exactly so it's tapping into the weakness of our system they're just laughing at us as we know

01:01:58.860 it's completely obvious um so this undercover reporter ends up going to meet this guy

01:02:03.480 mesadol hassan shakil and he sort of pretends to be in the office sort of above board he says oh

01:02:12.140 well no there's nothing we can do so he says uh um basically he says that you can't do it but then

01:02:19.340 And within a few hours, they get a call from this person, Hanisa.

01:02:22.840 And suddenly in Urdu, she says she was much more enthusiastic about helping our reporter stay in the country, discussing how he could apply for asylum on the grounds that he's gay.

01:02:30.200 Listen to me.

01:02:30.700 There's nobody who is real, she says.

01:02:32.620 There's only one way out in order to live here now.

01:02:34.760 And that is the very method everyone is adopting.

01:02:37.540 So they met.

01:02:39.820 She wouldn't give her a number, but she meets in her house.

01:02:42.520 So she sits on her bed and just says, look, here she is.

01:02:45.760 And she just says, look, here's how it goes down.

01:02:47.580 This is how you do it.

01:02:48.320 You pretend to be gay

01:02:49.840 You come with the most flamboyant dress

01:02:53.880 To the home office

01:02:55.120 Then they'll give you a card

01:02:56.540 There's people saying

01:02:57.600 You've got to go to the gay clubs

01:02:58.820 We'll tell you where they are

01:02:59.860 We'll take photos of you

01:03:01.020 This is all in the article

01:03:01.840 Dress like the village people

01:03:03.780 Yeah, yeah

01:03:04.200 Have a working knowledge of Liza Minnelli

01:03:06.700 It's that level

01:03:07.940 It's that level

01:03:09.080 We need a snap of you doing the YMCA on the dance floor

01:03:12.000 Holding a strawberry daiquiri

01:03:13.780 Boom, you're in

01:03:14.740 You can almost imagine seeing like

01:03:15.660 Nah, this is not working at all

01:03:17.040 I'm going to do a friend in Mercury tat.

01:03:19.660 I'm going to need you to be a lot more gay.

01:03:22.060 Imagine it.

01:03:23.800 You're doing about a four gay.

01:03:25.400 I'm going to need you an eight.

01:03:27.680 We've got a bunch of pink feather boas out the back.

01:03:30.300 We could get you one of those.

01:03:31.240 Go full Liberace.

01:03:32.500 Name five Pep Shop Boys songs.

01:03:35.760 Yeah, exactly.

01:03:36.820 Never go full Liberace.

01:03:37.460 Who was the lead singer of Erasure?

01:03:38.960 You're like, go boy George.

01:03:41.720 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:42.100 That's what they say.

01:03:42.940 You don't really want to hurt me

01:03:44.100 or you don't really want to deport me.

01:03:45.700 So there's no check-up to find out if the person is gay,

01:03:51.340 Tanisha told our undercover reporter.

01:03:52.640 The main thing is what you say.

01:03:54.080 You just have to tell them, I am gay and it is my reality.

01:03:57.120 Talk about that.

01:03:57.640 It's a lived experience being used against us, you see,

01:04:00.020 this nonsense of our system.

01:04:01.840 It's your lived experience.

01:04:03.140 In Beau's Britain, in Beau's home office,

01:04:05.740 someone comes to me and says,

01:04:07.680 you can't send me back to wherever because I'm gay.

01:04:10.060 I'm like, no, it's not our problem.

01:04:12.080 Off you go.

01:04:13.140 Yeah, that's a shame for you.

01:04:14.620 That's a real bad shame for you.

01:04:16.260 Bye-bye now.

01:04:17.420 Probably don't tell the lads in Pakistan.

01:04:19.300 There isn't enough diversity in your country.

01:04:23.560 Go back.

01:04:25.380 Diversity should be your strength.

01:04:26.940 Yeah, go and create a gay community in Bangladesh or Pakistan.

01:04:31.880 Good luck to you.

01:04:33.660 Yeah, we don't need you here.

01:04:34.860 We don't want you here.

01:04:36.380 This is where I got really angry.

01:04:38.040 So the full approach will take this.

01:04:39.900 I'll fully prepare for the interview by compiling a comprehensive package for you,

01:04:42.800 Including photographs of you at clubs

01:04:44.600 Various other pieces of supporting evidence

01:04:46.180 An organisational letter

01:04:47.260 Photographs of you biting pillows

01:04:49.600 Top or bottom

01:04:51.900 I mean that's an airtight application

01:04:55.420 We've got some arseless leather chaps here

01:04:58.820 If you put these on

01:05:00.900 We'll do a quick snap

01:05:02.000 Bob's your uncle

01:05:03.200 Yeah, I know

01:05:04.440 It's incredible

01:05:05.540 So

01:05:06.900 I will give you a letter

01:05:09.320 From someone along with which

01:05:11.040 We'll take a few photographs

01:05:12.140 and that person

01:05:12.760 will write that

01:05:13.220 they have engaged

01:05:13.800 in physical sex

01:05:14.780 with you

01:05:15.100 I mean the shame

01:05:16.200 of it for these

01:05:16.620 people as well

01:05:16.940 if they're not

01:05:17.420 gay and they're

01:05:17.740 from these cultures

01:05:18.340 they're just

01:05:18.660 having to totally

01:05:19.240 debase themselves

01:05:19.800 how is it not

01:05:20.280 really really

01:05:21.140 humiliating for them

01:05:21.940 really humiliating

01:05:23.040 for them

01:05:23.460 is it worth it

01:05:24.780 for like a crappy

01:05:25.540 job at like

01:05:26.520 stacking a shelf

01:05:28.420 in Sainsbury's

01:05:28.960 or something

01:05:29.160 is it worth it

01:05:29.700 black market

01:05:30.260 rubbish

01:05:30.600 I mean

01:05:30.860 so she says

01:05:32.440 it's going to

01:05:32.720 cost $2,500

01:05:33.600 and the cost

01:05:34.760 will go up

01:05:35.160 if it's refused

01:05:35.900 and they have

01:05:36.280 to appeal

01:05:36.760 and look at this

01:05:38.000 I'm fuming here

01:05:38.940 you can live here

01:05:39.540 and work

01:05:39.880 and you're also

01:05:40.420 able to claim benefits and that's why i was like and then this bit but if it was if it was successful

01:05:46.520 that would mean for his wife back in pakistan what that would mean for his wife he said what

01:05:50.000 because they got the undercover person saying what about my wife and she says well if you call her

01:05:54.000 here then we'll apply for asylum for her as well once she's here we can make her a lesbian it's

01:05:58.240 like you're gay she's a lesbian and you're both in the country living together right so what is

01:06:03.340 interesting here is that if they turn one gay and they and they give benefits and stuff then they'll

01:06:08.880 say they have the right to a family life so that's why they're trying to change the definition of the

01:06:14.740 family and also try to change laws in order to give more and more gibs so say right you get one

01:06:21.060 gay in and then you can bring everyone because people who are gay in the eyes of the law

01:06:26.660 have the right to a private and family life yeah but except unless he's got his wife how's that

01:06:33.080 gonna work although she's a lesbian yeah but they're assuming you're assuming their gender

01:06:36.840 right i slipped up um it's stupid though isn't it claiming to be hyper gay but also i've got a wife

01:06:46.600 i know shamelessness they're just we're just absolute mugs we're just the ultimate mugs

01:06:53.040 it's so pathetic and so this bit even annoyed me as well we showed our footage to anna gonzalez an

01:06:58.240 expert immigration lawyer with 30 years experience she said tenisa was clearly breaking the law

01:07:02.040 committing fraud by manufacturing a claim

01:07:03.900 to give to this person.

01:07:04.740 Yes, we noticed.

01:07:05.740 People like that are just really making things harder

01:07:07.360 for the legitimate asylum seekers and refugees.

01:07:09.380 I mean, it's like, who will think of the legitimate?

01:07:11.740 What about those in this country

01:07:12.820 who are just being absolutely rinsed by these scumbags?

01:07:15.540 Oh, the poor legitimate ones.

01:07:16.960 I don't care about the legitimate ones.

01:07:18.080 I don't care about them either, yeah.

01:07:20.160 That's what I saw in the news this morning,

01:07:21.480 that the Green Party had pulled up the BBC on this.

01:07:26.820 It was on one of the front pages

01:07:27.720 that they had an issue with this BBC reporting

01:07:30.280 on this over the last few days.

01:07:31.440 the green party saying won't basically saying won't anyone think of the legitimate gay asylum

01:07:37.300 seekers i know won't anyone think of the legitimate atheist asylum seekers no no i don't care britain

01:07:44.420 isn't an overthrow car park for the human detritus of the world right that comes right a little bit

01:07:49.980 more with the domestic abuse claims because like people actually have been domestic views and you're

01:07:53.440 claiming it i can see that is disgusting but it's still secondary to like they're just abusing the

01:07:57.640 system in an obscene way.

01:07:58.940 Because that's the other one they do, claiming to be gay, claiming to be an atheist, claiming

01:08:01.940 that you've been abused.

01:08:03.320 Got stuff on that.

01:08:04.000 Right.

01:08:04.300 Yeah, but you need to prepare for the gay atheist defense.

01:08:08.740 Right.

01:08:09.200 Because it's either or, you know, it's double the excitement, you know.

01:08:14.080 I've been beaten for being atheist by my boyfriend.

01:08:18.040 Yeah.

01:08:18.440 Triple whammy.

01:08:19.700 Triple threat.

01:08:20.880 They can't send you back now.

01:08:23.460 You mentioned the numbers.

01:08:24.540 Pakistan had the most asylum claims citing sexual orientation.

01:08:27.400 So they had 578 in 2023 claims.

01:08:33.500 578, obviously there aren't that many gay asylum seekers from Pakistan.

01:08:37.020 Bangladesh, 175.

01:08:38.360 Nigeria, 103.

01:08:39.180 India, 39.

01:08:39.840 Uganda, 35.

01:08:40.960 Other 447.

01:08:42.100 So those are some of the stats.

01:08:44.440 And by the way, another way, which we haven't mentioned,

01:08:46.600 of pretending to be gay, is of course to sign up for the Tories.

01:08:49.840 So this guy who's in LGBT con says,

01:08:52.660 While the number of people who claim to be LGBT for asylum is low,

01:08:55.580 3% of all cases, there is absolutely fraud.

01:08:57.940 I've seen firsthand there's vice chair for LGBT cons,

01:09:00.480 people trying to sign up and then ask for proof of membership

01:09:02.620 to use asylum applications.

01:09:04.260 It's like, that is the airtight defense.

01:09:05.940 Well, I mean, the Tories, obviously I'm gay.

01:09:07.980 Nearly all of them are.

01:09:10.000 So that just made me laugh.

01:09:11.180 I'm a boy.

01:09:12.240 I'm a Tory.

01:09:13.240 Yeah, yeah.

01:09:14.040 I'm from Pakistan.

01:09:14.840 How can I not be gay?

01:09:15.460 Obviously you're going to be homosexual then, yeah.

01:09:17.700 Why can't you speak English and you've got water on you from the boat?

01:09:21.040 Well, don't look at that.

01:09:22.660 So, yeah, I thought it was incredible.

01:09:24.360 That was just hilarious that that was true.

01:09:26.300 But you've also got the fake domestic abuse claims.

01:09:29.040 So this is shocking and disgusting as well.

01:09:32.580 So let me just introduce it.

01:09:35.740 So it says, where's the nice bit I had?

01:09:37.940 Basically, it says migrants are falsely claiming to be victims of domestic abuse

01:09:40.800 in order to stay in the country.

01:09:42.140 They're exploiting rules by ministers to help genuine victims of abuse

01:09:44.960 to secure permanent residence and inadequate home office checks

01:09:48.660 allowing them to do so on the basis of little evidence,

01:09:50.580 while their unsuspecting British partners

01:09:52.460 have had their lives turned upside down

01:09:53.620 by the false accusations.

01:09:55.080 I don't know why they're with them anyway,

01:09:56.200 but they say that,

01:09:56.860 and then it's like,

01:09:57.680 now you've been accused of being a domestic abuser

01:09:59.180 by a migrant who's tricked you into marrying

01:10:01.000 or being partnered with you.

01:10:02.780 It's absolutely insane.

01:10:04.460 The number of people claiming fast-track residency

01:10:06.200 on the basis of domestic abuse

01:10:07.400 has now reached more than 5,500 a year,

01:10:10.700 a number which has risen more than 50% in just three years.

01:10:14.000 In one case,

01:10:14.840 a British mother who'd left a male partner

01:10:16.320 after reporting him for rape

01:10:17.440 was subsequently accused by him of domestic abuse.

01:10:20.580 Can you imagine?

01:10:22.600 It was a legitimate rape accusation.

01:10:23.940 They went, well, you domestically abused me.

01:10:25.700 False allegations, she says, made so he could stay in the country.

01:10:28.960 The allegations were never proven, but the partner was able to use them

01:10:31.320 to avoid having to return to Pakistan.

01:10:34.700 So...

01:10:35.220 Imagine that.

01:10:37.900 Imagine that.

01:10:38.660 Imagine what a scumbag you would have to be.

01:10:41.820 You come to this country illegally, you strike up a relationship with a Brit,

01:10:45.820 you rape her, and then you claim she abused you.

01:10:50.580 and you can't be sent back.

01:10:52.900 Welcome to the UK.

01:10:54.740 And the Home Office go, yeah, you get to stay.

01:10:56.980 Yeah.

01:10:57.940 What?

01:10:59.180 So they went undercover again.

01:11:00.460 What on earth?

01:11:01.380 And they went undercover again.

01:11:02.800 They said, look, I've got a mistress.

01:11:04.280 I want to leave my wife, but then I might be deported.

01:11:06.660 How's that going to work?

01:11:07.500 And the guy explains to him how you deal with it.

01:11:09.240 He can't stay in the country.

01:11:10.360 While arranging this meeting, Eli quickly proposed a solution.

01:11:14.000 He'll make up a story for the Home Office,

01:11:16.600 one in which our reporter is a victim of domestic abuse.

01:11:19.460 Just to be on the safe side that I understand, do you have something like, maybe you made a story for me, what are you going to say?

01:11:26.520 I do. I will create one.

01:11:28.440 Oh, you create one?

01:11:29.200 Yeah.

01:11:29.480 Like?

01:11:31.200 Don't worry, I have one.

01:11:33.040 You have already one?

01:11:33.800 Yeah.

01:11:34.700 And what evidence are we going to use?

01:11:37.260 Because she doesn't hit me or anything, so there's no domestic violence.

01:11:41.580 So how will it work?

01:11:42.740 um orally you two have been having an argument and then she's been telling you things like

01:11:50.780 uh remember i'm the one who brought you here i'll put your case they're just saying you don't even

01:11:57.300 need any evidence other than like oh she's been saying like i'm the one who brought you here and

01:12:00.800 it's like a psychological abuse that's all you need to claim domestic abuse and it's made up

01:12:05.340 anyway this is just a completely amoral fifth columnist this is an absolute scumbag yeah it's

01:12:14.980 getting money to lie so i think it more foreigners in yeah yeah completely taking the mickey out of

01:12:22.080 the entire system and stealing money from us and resources and ruining that whoever his partner

01:12:27.860 was supposed to be yeah ruining her life absolutely ruining her life as well into the bargain so

01:12:33.280 Oh, disgusting. It's as bad as it could be.

01:12:34.680 And it even has a letter from the Home Office.

01:12:37.680 Psychological domestic abuse.

01:12:39.780 What is it?

01:12:40.860 You know when someone's playing with your mind?

01:12:43.540 Yeah.

01:12:44.400 To reassure him, Eli shows our reporter a letter he's got

01:12:48.140 from the Home Office about another client.

01:12:50.440 Your application under the Migraine Victims of Domestic Abuse concession

01:12:54.200 has been successful.

01:12:56.640 You've done that?

01:12:58.240 That's what I'm showing you.

01:13:00.300 So you've got nothing to worry.

01:13:01.940 So it's the man, yeah.

01:13:03.840 But mine is not genuine.

01:13:05.460 I know.

01:13:06.100 Not genuine?

01:13:06.800 What does this legal act?

01:13:08.660 I know.

01:13:09.360 They don't care.

01:13:10.360 That's what I'm showing you.

01:13:11.420 Here's the liar.

01:13:12.580 Here's a disgusting liar.

01:13:14.320 Just go with it.

01:13:15.120 And this guy's neither a registered solicitor nor a regulated immigration advisor, meaning it would be illegal for him to provide immigration advice or services.

01:13:20.660 But the letter showed that the Home Office had been sharing official correspondence with him about paying clients seemingly without checking his credentials.

01:13:27.980 Shock there.

01:13:28.880 No one at the Home Office.

01:13:29.540 So the Home Office just completely in on the scam, essentially, then?

01:13:34.080 Yes.

01:13:34.400 Essentially just in on it?

01:13:35.840 Either because they're ideological or they're just rubbish.

01:13:38.380 Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely shocking.

01:13:40.360 I mean, so yeah, so they use this scheme to basically stay for much longer.

01:13:44.660 If the application is successful, they're granted permission to stay for three months and can claim benefits.

01:13:49.100 During those three months, they can apply for indefinitely to remain in the UK,

01:13:51.820 while foreign nationals are given the right to live, work and study in the UK permanently with no time limit when foreign nationals.

01:13:58.220 So basically it's much faster than applying for permanent residence.

01:14:00.980 You do it this scam way.

01:14:02.460 Normally you'd have to wait five years,

01:14:05.360 even under a reform government.

01:14:08.460 Just wait five years, don't commit any crimes,

01:14:10.180 pay your taxes, wait five years, bosh, you're in.

01:14:13.180 That's a bit too long, isn't it, for these people, though?

01:14:15.460 Strike up a relationship with some poor Brit

01:14:17.540 and then claim she abused you,

01:14:19.380 you'll get fast-tracked three months.

01:14:21.380 Pay for fake evidence from a dodgy fake lawyer,

01:14:23.960 and then home officer will go, yeah, tick.

01:14:26.760 But as Steve Edgerton points,

01:14:28.220 out the bbc does not deserve praise for this i reported this in the telegraph years ago about

01:14:31.740 fake gay asylum claims as have many others the bbc had eight years to use its vast resources to

01:14:36.160 investigate this too little too late so there is that good point seen these cases before we've

01:14:40.680 heard about them so but it is significant he's right of course but it is also significant why

01:14:45.060 have the bbc now finally done it that is interesting is the overton window or something

01:14:48.920 shifting or as the government said do this so that we have a the political capital to do it

01:14:53.940 You wonder which comes first because suddenly Home Office investigation

01:14:57.760 after BBC finds migrants making false claims to stay in the UK.

01:15:02.300 So they basically said, oh, we're shocked at this.

01:15:04.080 You know, we can't believe it.

01:15:05.040 We'll do something.

01:15:06.840 You know what?

01:15:07.360 Edgington makes a great point there.

01:15:09.140 And you do wonder why the BBC are doing this now.

01:15:12.680 My gut feeling is that it's deliberate, a bit of a pressure valve,

01:15:19.040 tiny bit of a pressure valve.

01:15:20.640 that the pressure cook is so pressurised,

01:15:25.580 so close to blowing up,

01:15:27.900 that they have to release a little bit of the pressure.

01:15:31.700 And that's what this is.

01:15:33.080 I feel like, I might be wrong entirely.

01:15:34.400 That's why you have all the several commentators say,

01:15:36.940 hey, look, Labour is more right-wing.

01:15:40.140 Yeah, because they're suddenly saying,

01:15:41.500 Prime Minister Spokesman told reporters,

01:15:43.380 both the Home Office and the Immigration Advice Authority

01:15:45.080 investigating the claims made by the BBC,

01:15:47.000 both yesterday and today,

01:15:47.900 to ensure anyone potentially abusing our immigration system

01:15:49.940 is held accountable so suddenly they claim they're going to do anything will they do anything

01:15:53.160 i'll be surprised but it's interesting that it's suddenly gone mainstream that's my bit

01:15:58.460 shall i read these rumbles uh so is that the right one yeah okay so why don't the interviewers

01:16:07.780 so why don't the interviewers do the prove it test by lopping it out and asking for a bj

01:16:12.800 right right mr white that's one one way of doing it certainly fallen firebird says we are all being

01:16:18.780 successful, God willing, said the ungodly Muslim foster to the fake atheist, fake gay, Muslim

01:16:23.720 illegal. Are we living in a Monty Python skit? How do we get out? Well, if we are, Carl won't

01:16:27.740 find it funny. That's all I can tell you. Tiffenol, if you grew up in an Islamic culture

01:16:32.320 where your sacred book says you can lie to get what you want, why would you live with

01:16:36.720 these those people right do we have uh videos samson yeah we do excellent i like your videos

01:16:49.220 my friends let's play them we're gonna be patient yeah they are loading samson is telling me so

01:16:58.380 we're gonna chill shouldn't they have been loaded by now pre-loaded we're playing good cup bad cup

01:17:04.860 I'm the good cop.

01:17:06.740 Bo's the bad cop.

01:17:08.320 I'm only mucking around.

01:17:09.280 It's law and order.

01:17:12.840 Right.

01:17:13.380 I'm only mucking around.

01:17:14.840 Hello, Lotus Eaters.

01:17:16.060 Against my better judgment as I was telling Carl I'm saving up for a house,

01:17:18.940 I'll do a video message just because I have a question with personal investment.

01:17:22.820 But firstly, sorry I had to leave the party early.

01:17:25.580 My back was really hurting me.

01:17:27.640 Secondly, sorry to worry Dan when he thought I might need an ambulance

01:17:30.180 for my back injury from martial arts.

01:17:32.320 Thirdly, I didn't book a hotel ahead of time.

01:17:34.920 And it turns out Express Holiday Inn will let you book a hotel on arrival.

01:17:39.460 Now, I have some personal investment in this question being answered,

01:17:42.400 so if I missed it when I was there, please answer it, please.

01:17:51.400 I don't think that...

01:17:54.280 I can't tell you, but this sounds a bit...

01:17:58.800 It's about whether they should change martial arts self-defence laws

01:18:02.880 because someone tried to shoot a BB gun at him

01:18:04.320 and he disarmed them and was almost going to arrest it.

01:18:07.400 So there's a massive problem in this country.

01:18:09.180 That's why a store wants to bring in that home defence law,

01:18:11.540 home is your castle, where someone comes in your house

01:18:13.720 and you can basically shoot them.

01:18:16.040 That's my paraphrase of the policy.

01:18:17.700 That may not be exactly as Harrison put it.

01:18:19.140 There was that guy, I can't remember the guy's name,

01:18:21.280 but he only died recently, Tony something.

01:18:23.020 Tony Martin.

01:18:23.700 Tony Martin, right, yeah.

01:18:25.480 Where these same kids, I think they were kids,

01:18:27.520 these same young men kept burgling him.

01:18:30.360 They did it multiple, multiple times.

01:18:32.340 In the end, he sat in wait until they broke in,

01:18:34.140 then he shot him with a shotgun, killed one of them.

01:18:36.700 And he went to prison for manslaughter or whatever.

01:18:39.560 Yeah.

01:18:40.060 There's many such cases, aren't there,

01:18:41.460 that someone who's actually a security guard in a shop

01:18:45.120 tackles someone who's doing shoplifting.

01:18:46.940 They get in trouble.

01:18:47.880 Or a bus driver tries to stop someone stealing someone's purse.

01:18:52.600 They get in trouble.

01:18:53.260 They get fired.

01:18:54.360 I just saw a video from a bloke.

01:18:55.800 You might have seen it going viral where he says,

01:18:57.220 I've worked all my life in this country.

01:18:59.360 Why am I bothering?

01:19:00.240 He goes, I know a guy who does shoplifting,

01:19:01.520 makes a grand a week shoplifting while also claiming benefits that seems entirely plausible

01:19:06.320 I need to record this.

01:19:12.320 Give us your fucking hands down!

01:19:14.320 Oh no!

01:19:15.320 Give us your hands down!

01:19:17.320 No, he's been in first.

01:19:19.320 My dogs are pooping!

01:19:21.320 Marie, come out of the way, lads.

01:19:23.320 Come out of the way.

01:19:25.320 Give us your fucking hands down!

01:19:28.320 Teaser! Teaser!

01:19:30.320 Get on the fucking ground now!

01:19:33.320 Get on the fucking ground!

01:19:35.320 GET ON THE GRAND NOW!

01:19:37.320 GET ON THE GRAND NOW!

01:19:39.320 GET ON THE GRAND NOW!

01:19:41.320 I mean, what are we watching? What's going on?

01:19:45.320 I'm probably basically watching how a white boat gets treated when he...

01:19:48.320 He's a bit of help to dug his toes now.

01:19:50.320 OK.

01:19:51.320 And he managed to eat.

01:19:53.320 I don't know what he'd done, though. Why are they trying to arrest him, even?

01:19:55.320 I wanted my phone. I thought he was getting my fucking rod. I wanted to video it.

01:19:59.320 Doesn't look good, but he might have done something wrong, for all I know.

01:20:02.320 also i always say to people don't resist arrest even if it's completely unfair and unjust if a

01:20:07.220 cop's trying to arrest you you've done absolutely nothing wrong let them do it because if you resist

01:20:15.060 they'll start doing that to you they'll start tasering you trying to beat you up hit you with

01:20:19.000 a baton all that stuff just let them put the you in the back of their car even take you to the

01:20:23.400 station and if you haven't done anything wrong you should be okay it's really frustrating it's not

01:20:27.800 fair it's not fair but if the second you try and fight back that that's what you'll get into that

01:20:33.040 situation i wouldn't no you took your arrest really well i saw yeah all the times i've been

01:20:40.340 arrested you're so calm i've never been arrested in my life but um yeah it's probably it may be

01:20:45.360 completely unfair but they're trying to make you put your arms behind your back and it's it's an

01:20:50.440 injustice but just let them do it otherwise they'll pepper spray you they'll taser you

01:20:54.280 and start hitting you

01:20:55.120 with a stick

01:20:55.660 whatever

01:20:56.100 but yeah

01:20:57.260 no I'm not

01:20:58.200 I'm not saying

01:20:58.820 that they should do

01:20:59.440 otherwise

01:20:59.700 because I agree

01:21:01.200 with this

01:21:01.540 just

01:21:01.900 they

01:21:02.860 two police

01:21:04.460 officers

01:21:05.620 couldn't

01:21:06.200 handle

01:21:06.900 couldn't handle

01:21:08.920 him

01:21:09.140 he got away

01:21:09.960 it's just a bigger

01:21:10.580 dude than them

01:21:11.360 and they're not

01:21:12.080 used to fighting

01:21:12.820 or whatever

01:21:13.260 yeah

01:21:13.720 maybe they need

01:21:14.680 to look at the

01:21:15.420 DEI in hiring

01:21:16.560 in police

01:21:17.060 they've lowered

01:21:17.500 all their fitness

01:21:18.060 standards to where

01:21:18.720 like I could pass

01:21:19.460 them like

01:21:19.840 if the bleep

01:21:21.280 test has been

01:21:21.820 lowered it's all

01:21:22.480 been anyone

01:21:23.240 can pass it

01:21:23.740 Quite often in Swindon we see tiny little WPCs.

01:21:28.060 Like, honestly, a little five-foot-one little woman.

01:21:31.860 She's obviously, like, 110 pounds.

01:21:34.660 And the body armour she's wearing looks like it's a little kid dressing up.

01:21:38.640 Ridiculous.

01:21:39.520 Absolutely ridiculous.

01:21:40.840 They're not going to do anything to any bloke who's going to resist arrest.

01:21:44.700 They're not going to be able to come close to overpowering him.

01:21:49.300 Not in a million years.

01:21:50.280 It's ridiculous.

01:21:50.760 Why are they on the beat?

01:21:52.740 there's a whole number of jobs female police officers can do at a desk don't make them go

01:22:00.140 out on the street cooking the meals yeah no you're absolutely right don't make them have

01:22:04.960 physical altercation on the street because they're not going to win it they have to admit men are

01:22:08.480 stronger and therefore that men and women are different and imagine the can of worms that

01:22:11.760 would open let's go next one and now here's a little more japan maxing for you guys yes

01:22:18.820 this is the cherry tree outside my house outside the sunroom yep spring is upon us and the cherry

01:22:29.000 blossoms are blooming and yes the cherry blossom is an important part of japanese culture

01:22:35.760 nice thanks michael next one like i said the cat videos will continue until morale has improved

01:22:48.080 so until i see improved morale i will continue the cat videos thanks there will be more cat videos

01:22:58.140 and here's charlotte more charlotte i i like wholesome videos because we also we always have

01:23:07.760 the black fields and stuff we need more cheery stuff i prefer a dog video i find puppies and

01:23:15.100 dogs so much cuter than cats but i'll take a cute cat video i'll take it oh this is great

01:23:20.080 richard harris as cromwell i don't know what this is going to be but this is one of my favorite

01:23:24.180 films of all time then sir why are you leaving over to my sons to make a better life for them

01:23:30.040 england is no longer a country for a young man this country crawls with greed and corruption

01:23:35.280 it is governed by adventurers and profiteers who think more of their pockets than their principles

01:23:39.580 we have a king who taxes the rich beyond its means and steals the land from the poor to maintain

01:23:45.040 his lavish court and our man dare not speak his mind for fear of imprisonment it is fitting a

01:23:50.680 young man should want to change the world not the world sir only england is that is that supposed

01:23:57.760 to be his son in the in the movie no that's supposed to be ireton okay okay not his son no

01:24:03.780 imagine what cromwell would make of the asylum claims he thought there was corruption then

01:24:08.600 When you get people that for some reason despise Oliver Cromwell,

01:24:14.340 they're either sort of an Irish Catholic or something,

01:24:17.800 or they just don't know history.

01:24:21.520 They've been told Oliver Cromwell's evil in some way,

01:24:24.340 and they haven't actually read what he did and said, how he behaved.

01:24:28.100 Oh, he cancelled Christmas.

01:24:29.360 There's a bit more to it than that, actually.

01:24:31.980 Question.

01:24:32.820 We committed genocide in Wexford.

01:24:34.840 Oh, it wasn't in response to Irish genocides, no?

01:24:38.100 Oh, okay.

01:24:38.600 Do the royalists hate Cromwell?

01:24:41.800 Of course they would, yeah.

01:24:44.320 I'm a monarchist, I just love the monarchy so much, okay?

01:24:48.420 All right.

01:24:50.160 Cromwell did amazing things for this country, amazing things.

01:24:54.660 Let's go to the next one.

01:24:56.680 You're not going to?

01:24:57.260 I'm staying out, I mean, I can't know if I can win.

01:25:00.540 All right.

01:25:05.820 That was me, was it?

01:25:07.380 I wasn't paying attention for the first few seconds there.

01:25:10.140 You're seeing me.

01:25:12.900 Is that Avebury?

01:25:14.660 Yeah.

01:25:15.640 Looks like it.

01:25:16.740 Stone Circle Avebury.

01:25:19.580 Nice.

01:25:31.540 Turk.

01:25:33.140 No.

01:25:37.380 Right, okay, let's go to the comments.

01:25:40.080 Do you want me to read comments for your segment, Beau?

01:25:42.860 Sure, yeah, if you don't mind.

01:25:44.200 Right, Cambrian Kulak says,

01:25:46.480 foreign office will be captured by globalist interests.

01:25:49.280 They serve big money in foreign interests.

01:25:52.260 Have done since the first half of the 20th century, I'd say.

01:25:56.920 Michael Dribelbis, but let's be clear,

01:25:58.840 MI6 has compromised and probably used Epstein as an asset for years.

01:26:03.760 The idea that any intelligence service

01:26:05.560 didn't gladly use Epstein as an asset is ludicrous.

01:26:10.280 Kevin Fox says,

01:26:11.660 for those of us old enough to remember,

01:26:13.680 it makes me wonder how Mandelson gets anywhere near government

01:26:16.480 when you consider what happened to Profumo

01:26:19.040 for having a bit on the side with Christine Keeler.

01:26:22.340 At least she was over 18,

01:26:24.620 unlike Mandelson's preferred companions.

01:26:27.160 Yes, in Profumo's case,

01:26:28.660 there was the Russian involvement

01:26:29.740 in the form of Yevgeny Ivanov,

01:26:31.440 but Mandy was dealing with a guy

01:26:33.220 who sold state secrets to the highest bidder

01:26:35.640 or used them as leverage against world leaders and the elite.

01:26:39.400 Tough to decide who was worse.

01:26:41.540 Okay.

01:26:42.240 Yeah, the Profumo affair.

01:26:44.220 Again, like Nixon, like the severity of scandals from yesteryear,

01:26:52.660 just nowhere near as bad as what they are now.

01:26:55.000 Nowhere near as bad.

01:26:56.020 Like what, Profumo just had an affair.

01:26:58.600 Basically, that's all it was, essentially.

01:26:59.820 That's all it really was.

01:27:00.740 Well, a bit more.

01:27:01.260 There's more to it than that.

01:27:01.920 But we're near as bad as...

01:27:05.860 Oh, anyway.

01:27:06.700 Stelius, how can you...

01:27:08.120 Oh, we are running out of time.

01:27:09.920 I'll speed it up a bit.

01:27:11.300 Yeah.

01:27:11.920 Queen Hanley says,

01:27:13.280 Starmer could pull the ultimate pro-gamer move

01:27:15.520 and burn the house down on the way out

01:27:17.560 by calling a general election

01:27:19.060 to make sure the next Labour leader isn't Prime Minister.

01:27:23.200 Right.

01:27:23.580 So Kevin Fox again,

01:27:25.760 where they don't use emotion,

01:27:27.660 they use the law.

01:27:28.760 Well, that's not true.

01:27:29.760 if they had used the law he'd have got 15 years yeah correct Derek Power master of chippy says

01:27:37.700 oh Malama meant the other literally which apparently doesn't literally mean literally got

01:27:43.060 it and Kulain Sloan but don't you know kill the boy kill the farmer is just a meaningless slogan

01:27:49.440 like where's the beef or death to America yes and uh do you want to read a few of yours

01:27:55.680 Andy, Kevin Fox, all these expose reports are great for finding all the fakers, the drawback is they also make it harder for genuine gay asylum seekers to be taken seriously by the Home Office, which is a point we made satirically, so I can't tell.

01:28:07.720 Annie Moss, I don't understand why immigrants can't go back because they're gay. After all, the Muslim religion is religion of peace and they never cause problems for gay people in the UK. That's true.

01:28:16.820 About a time.

01:28:17.420 Right, so check out Lads Hour at 3pm.

01:28:23.180 and on that note

01:28:25.820 have a lovely weekend

01:28:27.860 thanks Nick, thanks Bo

01:28:29.840 see you in 30 minutes

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 17, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1399

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