00:00:28.760And then we're going to be talking about the dialectic of progressivism, because apparently Clarence Thomas has a few things to say about it.
00:00:39.860That's a good reason to talk about it.
00:00:41.760Yeah, if Clarence Thomas is saying something, then it's good to listen.
00:00:45.320So, also, just to announce, we have the second part of Stelius and I's conversation now, all about Jason and the Argonauts.
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00:01:17.440it's very very enjoyable and you can access it for five pounds a month along with all the other
00:01:22.060great premium content on the site such as epochs and of course brokonomics yes which is very
00:01:26.980sensible haven't done one of harpies yet i'm gonna have to cover that yes yeah well if you if you need
00:01:30.980my input yes you know about that sort of thing do you brokonomics and harpies yes yeah how much
00:01:37.440does dating a harpy cost you oh i did i did one like that sets you back quite a bit yeah yeah um
00:01:44.000all right so with that all said let's get into things shall we so obviously the syrian civil war
00:01:51.280erupted back in 2011 around the time when the rest of the arab spring was you know going up all
00:01:57.360across uh you know north africa and many of the arab muslim countries in the world and as a result
00:02:03.840of this you know as things escalated year on year as well um angela merkel took it on herself out of
00:02:11.040her own sense of very very overpowering german guilt and also the fact that she saw the refugee
00:02:18.560crisis as a means to basically um kind of rehabilitate germany's reputation right on
00:02:26.960amongst the international community if we can just be seen to do this selfless benevolent thing
00:02:32.640that is a pure unalloyed good then everything will work out all right the germans never need
00:02:38.560much excuse to hit the self-destruct button no no this is true but the problem as well with all of
00:02:44.300this is of course if the sort of expectations of said international community and the un the
00:02:51.440refugee council all these sorts of institutions the eu itself of course if they're all saying
00:02:56.920that the policies you have to enact to for us to basically have you in the good books happen to be
00:03:03.780policies that Germany has to enact that will endanger German lives, then I would suggest
00:03:09.520that actually those institutions aren't really worth listening to. And actually, that would be
00:03:15.140a very morally unacceptable thing to do as the leader of Germany. But we could see it all started
00:03:22.840very much quite literally with flowers and candles and coffee as refugees began to pour into
00:03:29.680Germany from across Syria. And as this went on, of course, we basically got to the now very,
00:03:37.340very infamous and, you know, a point, frankly, in European history in the 21st century that will
00:03:43.940never be forgotten, which was, of course, Angela Merkel's Verschaffendass, you know,
00:03:48.440we can do it, where she went on, as it reporting from the time went on to say,
00:03:53.780the Chancellor made the issue of refugees the focus of her press conference. It is not a natural
00:03:58.540disaster that we are seeing in many places she said but we are seeing a large number of disastrous
00:04:03.900situations she pointed the to the example of the tragedy in austria where only last week the bodies
00:04:10.080of 71 refugees were found in a lorry angler merkel spoke of quote inconceivable atrocities
00:04:17.040and unimaginable images and she stressed that this is before she brought them all in yes right
00:04:24.200because it's also after yes yes yes i mean the the horrors it's there's a thing of course there
00:04:29.740were only certain horrors right that she couldn't bear to see the horrors that matter the ones that
00:04:34.740happen to people who aren't german yes who aren't her concern that's right she's not concerned about
00:04:39.400the horrors that happen to germans who are her you've got it right right but also just let me
00:04:43.820just say because this was a very complex period back then i remember all of it because greece was
00:04:49.580also involved we had a very uh bad government at the time citizen that uh did play a part in
00:04:55.740in flooding europe with uh you know lots of people from syria but one thing to say that
00:05:01.240when it comes to merkel merkel didn't live during the world war ii she had the uh different
00:05:09.300experience in her mind she was born in east germany and the east west germany divide is what
00:05:16.180essentially formed her psyche she wanted to be in the west and was denied in a way she couldn't
00:05:23.180well there's a wall yeah so that's much more uh formative for her an experience than any other
00:05:31.420you know experience regarding world war ii as people on in some circles imply yeah okay uh and
00:05:38.780but merkel stressed that it's important to have clear principles and that we must be um
00:05:43.400And these must be complied with in dealing with refugees.
00:05:47.940These principles are laid out in our basic law or constitution, she said.
00:05:52.100The German law provides basic law provides for the right to asylum for individuals fleeing political persecution.
00:05:58.220We should be proud of the humanitarian principles enshrined in the basic law, said Merkel.
00:06:03.900Germany also guarantees to protect individuals fleeing from these wars.
00:06:07.960and at the same time the chancellor took a clear stance on every form of xenophobia we will be
00:06:15.600using the full force of the law against those who verbally or physically attack others who
00:06:20.980torch shelters or try to resort to violence there is zero tolerance for those who call in to question
00:06:26.580the dignity of others stressed angler merkel and the chancellor urged germans not to get involved
00:06:32.700in demonstrations to protest against the refugees coming into the country now there is one thing
00:06:39.040here because if you were say for example attack like burning refugee shelters then that is one
00:06:45.600thing that's not what she said what she said was zero tolerance for questions yes right okay and
00:06:50.560here we go and so we see the the natural conclusion of all of that playing out now you know 10 years
00:06:56.160down the line where the the afd is under constant surveillance from german intelligence how they're
00:07:02.320basically just making germans second-class citizens in their own home and not to mention
00:07:06.980of course all of the rampant crime that has come with it um she went on to say germany is a strong
00:07:12.820country we have already achieved so much time and time again germany has risen to a challenge said
00:07:18.420she said giving the examples of german reunification 25 years ago and the country's
00:07:24.420energy shift to put energy supplies on the more sustainable footing and the effective assistance
00:07:30.840of um it is provided in the face of natural disasters and as we've covered in a lot of the
00:07:36.680time since then those energy disasters that germany was dealing with and many of the other
00:07:42.140things it seems that they weren't quite the german elites weren't quite as um you know didn't have
00:07:48.520quite as a thorough plan as they anticipated in doing so let's go to the statistics quickly on
00:07:54.280the energy thing i mean that's because they because they were reliant on russian gas and
00:07:58.300nuclear they closed down all the nuclear went all in on russian gas and then decided to sanction
00:08:02.040russian gas right not a great plan but my point is is kind of predictable yes yeah don't become
00:08:09.120energy dependent 100 yeah and then sanction them yes um you could arguably say that there was
00:08:17.760tremendous pressure by the biden administration to the germans to sanction them because the germans
00:08:24.000didn't rush to sanction russia so we can see here from the uh this ranking table so turkey took by
00:08:31.720far and away the most syrian refugees followed by lebanon and then germany ahead of surrounding
00:08:38.540you know areas such as jordan iraq egypt that were obviously much much closer and much more
00:08:44.940current uh culturally you know i would suggest in sync with um syrian people then uh secular
00:08:52.400Christian, whichever it may be, you know, Germany. However, it is what it is, and as a result of all
00:08:59.320of this, this obviously resulted in quite a good number of atrocities. And I will just say with
00:09:05.560this as well that though I am going to go through and pick out some of the worst examples that
00:09:11.460have been committed by, you know, the actions of Syrians who have, you know, come under the guise
00:09:16.780of asylum into germany i just want to clarify that what i am not doing is suggesting that
00:09:22.580every syrian refugee is a murderer in waiting or just a criminal that's not what i'm suggesting
00:09:29.200there are many uh families you know from syria who have naturally um kept the safety of their
00:09:36.540families at heart and have tried to flee the country i understand that what i don't understand
00:09:42.060is the european gamble for basically well we are going to do this and at what point does it become
00:09:50.040okay we're losing too many of our own people to to those that have been there in that right
00:09:55.500there is no risk there is no regard for the safety of the europeans themselves and this is what my
00:10:02.200contention is with you know if a syrian wants to go to uh lebanon to to try and you know find
00:10:07.720sanctuary absolutely fine but why would germany allow this especially after ever since this
00:10:14.740happened we have an entire litany of examples of where it all goes disastrously wrong so we can see
00:10:21.260here that the 15 people were injured for seriously in the suicide bombing back in 2016 in bavaria
00:10:28.660we also point to the fact that in 2016 a syrian asylum seeker stabbed um his girlfriend with a
00:10:35.880on a kebab knife surrounded by bystanders and they were also harmed in it too and then of course we
00:10:43.840get onto the fact that whilst all of this was going on this was still at a time when ISIS was
00:10:48.620very much powerful in the region of the Middle East and were trying to create the little caliphate
00:10:54.500and so as a result of that a German court found Syrian citizen Issa al-Hassan guilty of an Islamic
00:11:01.980state inspired uh 2024 stabbing attack on the festival in the western city of uh solingen
00:11:10.760solingen uh in which three people were killed and 10 others injured and this is my point
00:11:16.560how many refugees does it take for you to feel good about yourself as a world leader and how
00:11:23.680many lives of german people does it take to negate that good feeling and maybe give you a bit of
00:11:29.660pause for thought that you might this all might have been a bit of a disaster there's no answer
00:11:34.260there no because the it's just infinite and you you mentioned the solingen knife attacks because
00:11:41.140that was a i think there was a diversity festival there i may be mistaken check it out check it out
00:11:46.400but i think there was a diversity festival there yes in which this attack happened and the response
00:11:52.080was let's ban knives and what is interesting when we're covering germany is that the government of
00:11:59.460Germany both the previous coalition and the one that is currently governing which is the same
00:12:04.580basically the same two parties with a different leadership is that they are they seem to be very
00:12:10.600much interested in micromanaging decline and something that really annoys people and I'm
00:12:17.240annoyed with it I imagine that if you're a German you're annoyed even more with it is that this
00:12:23.140whatever this policy is it is clothed in the name of is presented in the name of humanitarianism
00:12:30.300but the humanitarianism involved is very selective and this ties to exactly what you were saying
00:12:35.160before it's like when you are taking a huge risk you are putting your own population in danger
00:12:42.800because let's face it multiculturalism especially in europe when it comes with people from the mean
00:12:50.260countries doesn't have exactly a track record of success so when you're taking such a massive risk
00:12:57.180and after every event you don't show that you're willing to self-correct or at least allow criticism
00:13:06.940that's when people start saying well no you're you're against me you don't care about the human
00:13:12.600rights in general you care about the human rights of refugees who come here and disrespect the human
00:13:19.480rights of Europeans. Absolutely. Before the attack on August 23rd, he had been in touch with an IS
00:13:28.400handler via Telegram messaging platform and recorded a video announcing his allegiance to
00:13:34.120them. And the other thing to just mention with all of this is that, of course, though I am
00:13:38.880focusing on Germany in this segment, of course, it's not just Germany, right? Germany is not the
00:13:45.340only country in Europe to have taken in Syrian refugees and so we have here Syrian brothers
00:13:51.160Omar and Mohammed who came over I believe so sorry I'll read further down the attackers were
00:13:59.360aged between 15 and 21 when the abuser victim between 2018-2019 Newcastle Crown Court heard
00:14:08.120the girl said they tortured her making her childhood a living nightmare and I am sure
00:14:14.640that's somewhere further down here i meant to put it in my notes i apologize um yes uh who moved
00:14:21.120to the uk as refugees from the war in syria uh telling her she would be killed and taken to
00:14:27.500another country so this was all monstrous and britain took significantly fewer syrian refugees
00:14:34.900than other countries and yet we have here such films were made about it like the old oak by
00:14:42.280ken loach which was basically a film from someone who was well i'm far left too left wing for my
00:14:49.120take but taste but he was a very respected filmmaker um sort of you know for many decades
00:14:55.220now in british cinema and he used the opportunity for his last ever film bear in mind this is a man
00:15:00.860who was born in 1936 when all of these problems didn't exist in britain to basically make a film
00:15:09.360telling you yeah but they're not actually here are they it's all far-right propaganda and none of
00:15:15.180it's really real and really shouldn't we just be accepting syrians into our own lives and so
00:15:22.920obviously going further down as well they just more and more information came out as the as the
00:15:28.460years went on and we grow to realize as the european conservative point out here that from
00:15:33.880the German Federal Criminal Police Officer's own statistics were able to highlight a stark
00:15:39.680difference in crime rates between German and foreign suspects, with Syrians and Afghans
00:15:44.860showing particularly high figures. The federal report Crime in the Context of Migration for 2024
00:15:51.120revealed that across numerous types of offences, Syrians and Afghans appeared as suspects
00:15:58.840significantly more than german citizens who'd have thought it among germans 163 suspects per
00:16:06.380100 000 inhabitants are recorded by contrast for syrians it's 1740 and for afghans it's about the
00:16:17.060same per 100 000 so and marked you know more than 10 times likely to commit a serious crime against
00:16:24.720a person yes but the schaff and ass i suppose um a similar pattern emerges in sexual and drug
00:16:31.600related offenses and overall non-german suspects were now making for over 40 of all cases
00:16:39.280while the proportion of foreign uh convicts had grown over the past decade and now exceeds one
00:16:45.520third so sorry do you want me to jump in here right so i remember these because i've covered
00:16:52.720several times these crimes and also these statistics it is very interesting to note that
00:17:03.520they are official statistics so when it comes to this remember that it's the it's the state
00:17:11.200that publishes them but it's also the state that penalizes people uh for talking about them and
00:17:18.080And there was an MP, or a member of the AFD, a really young member of the AFD,
00:17:25.740who was fined with thousands of euros about it.
00:17:36.620First of all, obviously there's a hypocrisy in it.
00:17:40.100The usual criticism that the state doesn't allow people to criticize the disastrous policies they're implementing.
00:17:47.100implementing but there's also the other bit is there's another reason why they're doing it is
00:17:51.580because on the one hand they're saying well don't talk about it but on the other hand they say well
00:17:56.380if you're going to talk about it you will be allowed only to refer to this data only in a
00:18:02.060very specific way and this way it implies that if these communities if these groups are over
00:18:11.180represented in violent crime or crime of any other sort the solution to that is to to tax even more
00:18:20.700yeah the native german and the native europeans in other countries in order to bear the costs
00:18:26.620of integration so they never see these groups at least this is what their rhetoric is suggesting
00:18:34.140i'm talking about the establishment they never see these groups as actually agents who are
00:18:39.100responsible for crimes because because these figures are actually important to the german
00:18:45.060government the german government does need these figures but of course they're only ever to be
00:18:49.680interpreted in a particular way as you say it's about um using these statistics to highlight
00:18:56.100socio-economic differences and the prevalence of racism it's not to be used to come to i don't know
00:19:03.280maybe the conclusion that these people shouldn't be in germany well they can't accept there's any
00:19:07.980difference between cultures no even though we see it every day in front of our very eyes and the
00:19:13.040question is how many victims must there be in order for the establishment to at least appear
00:19:20.540puzzled that this perhaps isn't done in the proper way and in fact actually just just off the top of
00:19:26.660my head but to bring it up as well the idea of just hospitality and guest right and just honoring
00:19:32.020the people that come into your home and also the people who come into your home honoring you as
00:19:37.400the host as well right is a very old honor tradition in european cultures uh obviously
00:19:43.760it's something we talk about a lot when it comes to the ancient greek stuff on chronicles
00:19:47.340but there is aspects of it throughout all of european societies for the most part
00:19:52.720and when you are coming from refugees when you are asylum seekers and you choose to repay the
00:20:00.420host nation with brutal crimes um that does rather sour the goodwill somewhat and how and obviously
00:20:10.620would in normal circumstances make it even more conditional that well as soon as the osad regime
00:20:17.240falls and you're able to go home you really it's it's kind of time for you to leave it has fallen
00:20:23.760It has fallen, yes. Quite a while ago, in fact, at this point. And as the United Nations points out here, they're a refugee agency. A year after the Assad regime fell, over 3 million displaced Syrians have returned home.
00:20:40.160But greater international support is urgently needed to maintain the trend and ensure stability.
00:20:46.940So, according to them, more than 1.2 million Syrians have voluntarily returned from neighbouring countries since December 2024, alongside over 1.9 million internally within Syria who have just internally, domestically fled to another part of it, right?
00:21:04.540So all of this displacement is slowly being returned to a state of normalcy, who have gone back to their areas of origin, and many more have expressed a desire to return. This is all good news. This marks a critical step, as they say here, in Syria's healing process.
00:21:21.220Force displacement was among the deep wounds inflicted by the conflict, and return is critical to end years of suffering and ensure stabilisation.
00:21:33.020This is a once-in-a-generation chance to help end one of the world's worst humanitarian crises, said UN High Commissioner for Refugees, Filippo Grandi.
00:21:46.100But without urgent global backing, this window of hope will close.
00:21:50.580syrians are ready to rebuild the question is whether the world is ready to help them do it or
00:21:56.160not and we can see here from projections as well they were anticipating quite um a big call right
00:22:03.860from the rest of the world and syrians around scattered around the world that they would now
00:22:08.280want to go home and after the rebuilding of the war and indeed there does seem to be some truth
00:22:13.280to it as well given that uh apparently in turkey uh now over 1.3 million syrian refugees have
00:22:21.140actually left turkey to go back home which is nearly half of them but i can spot a pattern here
00:22:26.920yes if they were deplaced internally well they're going to be better off by going back and if they
00:22:32.900were deplaced to the neighboring countries were they going to be better off going back yes they
00:22:36.720were and if they went to turkey and i was in turkey during this and they all just camped out
00:22:42.060the middle of the street you'd walk up a turkish high street not even in a major town but even even
00:22:46.920the smaller towns and the middle of the high street would just be these rows of tents full
00:22:52.120of syrians now if that's your alternative yeah of course you're going to go back but i mean you
00:22:57.860haven't got to it yet and i wonder if you're going to but what about the people who've been given
00:23:01.480houses and incomes in places like germany yes yes about so about that um not so great now
00:23:09.560Well, apparently, only about 6,000 Syrians have voluntarily left Germany in 2025.
00:23:18.880So in Turkey, they're able to basically push, as you say, 1.3 million off, which I believe is about half of them.
00:23:26.340It's something like nearer to 3 million that went into Turkey, and many are returning from Lebanon as well.
00:23:33.720But as a result of this, naturally, and especially with the AFD breathing down the neck of the German establishment,
00:23:42.920Mertz has to be seen to obviously offer some red meat-up to actually concern German voters here.
00:23:51.580So we can see the BBC reporting that most Syrian refugees in Germany are expected to return home in three years.
00:23:59.560And this is from Mertz's mouth himself.
00:24:31.760their homeland without giving up the stability and lives they have built here for those who wish to
00:24:37.920stay says shirah uh and as i point out only 6 000 have gone home because this isn't really an
00:24:45.980incentive is it you can stay here and have a free house and free staff and also i just want to
00:24:51.240comment on just scrolling down looking at this picture the sheer lunacy of this that that for
00:24:56.400what was it 15 20 years isis and the jihadi head choppers were the west's enemy number one and now
00:25:03.360you've got a situation where you've got an isis jihadi head chopper stood next to the chancellor
00:25:09.600of germany it's the madness of the world we live in i have to mention something here because i
00:25:14.480remember this really well um for uh some time european leaders met with uh syria the current
00:25:24.080syrian president and there was lots of uh discussion and blame against them that you know
00:25:29.760you're just traitors to your country and then trump met him in uh the tour he did of the gulf
00:25:36.560and suddenly everything everyone was yeah trump is doing the great art of the deal and uh suddenly
00:25:42.320wasn't so bad i want to say something i don't like this picture but from a realistic perspective
00:25:47.840i think this is what mertz should be doing he should want to try and see and take reality at
00:25:55.760face value and see how to uh take that how to make many syrians leave germany and go to syria
00:26:06.000the trouble with this though isn't what i see in the picture it's uh actually something to
00:26:11.600do with the character of Mertz. He has a habit of stating the obvious decades after the general
00:26:19.360public can see it. And he does it in a very demoralizing way. I'll give you a very quick
00:26:24.480example. When he's talking about, he recently talked about denuclearization and said it was
00:26:29.920just ridiculous, but it's too late to do anything about it. Sorry, no, it's not too late. You can
00:26:36.560start rebuilding your nuclear plants so what i what i think is that character is destiny
00:26:43.520the same way i've i've said this about other people in other areas of the political spectrum
00:26:49.680the same applies for mertz what i see here is weakness and an inability to defend the interests
00:26:58.800of his own country because fundamentally what he wants to be seen as doing is to honor the firewall
00:27:07.520of german politics ie in other words he doesn't want to be seen as teaming up with the afd
00:27:14.640and particular policies right this is sort of changing in in europe in some respects but i
00:27:20.400think that mertz is not showing me reason to be optimistic for germany no and of course there are
00:27:28.480none of these caveats about circular migration with the turks right the turks like war's over
00:27:34.040get yourselves off right it's all very straightforward um and this comes down to
00:27:38.620the fact as well so that everything as you just say but also he is trying to stave off the threat
00:27:44.260of the afd which does seem to get stronger in the polls every time an election comes around
00:27:49.620it's just a shame that so many people have to die between those election cycles and suffer
00:27:55.300as all of this continues to go on and it doesn't help either when other voices from within Mertz's
00:28:01.780coalition are basically trying to counter-signal him and say what are you thinking about sending
00:28:08.080Syrians back to Syria now the war's over what a preposterous position Mr Mertz um and basically
00:28:15.360saying that it has no plan and no legal basis now the problem with that of course is that
00:28:20.600You can criticise Mertz for having no plan and no legal basis, but of course those voices around him aren't interested in creating a plan or a legal basis either, because they want to keep the Syrians in Germany.
00:28:35.560I realise time, but I will just go through this little bit here, where it says,
00:28:39.840Although it's not the first time Mertz has urged Syrians to return home to help rebuild their country, following its long and brutal civil war that ended in 2024, his latest remarks have drawn a wider rebuke due to their specificity, meaning it might be a bit more serious this time, I suppose, and the setting in which they were made alongside the Syrian president.
00:29:01.460what remains is a figure with no plan no legal basis and no respect for so many people who are
00:29:10.020part of our society pay attention to that word our there because it comes from a lawmaker in
00:29:17.140the social democratic party and the name is um aiden ozoguz um which i'm definitely butchering
00:29:27.460But all this to say both of her parents are Turkish.
00:29:30.640And it's like, well, that's very interesting because in what world are we now in where the Turk gets to describe who gets to stay in Germany?
00:29:39.000And also as well, would she apply that same standard to her own native country of Turkey, even as it dispels as many of the refugees from Turkey as it possibly can?
00:29:49.620so once again it's there's an entrenched cabal of foreigners within Germany as well who are going
00:29:55.860to do absolutely everything they can to keep Germany as multicultural as they possibly can
00:30:01.420and they'll they'll talk about all the tried and tested points at this point about birth rates
00:30:06.400and about all these sorts of things but as the the article itself goes on to point out
00:30:11.320approximately 1.23 million people of Syrian origin were registered in Germany
00:30:17.380at the end of 2024 and of these about a quarter of a million and acquired german citizenship
00:30:24.460which i will just point out the german state didn't have to give them leaving close to a
00:30:30.720million syrian nationals in germany at risk of being affected by the proposals proposed large
00:30:36.980scale return policy but of all of these as well only about 5 000 of them are doctors 2 000 of
00:30:43.680them are nurses um so all right well i mean if you want to go down that road as a bit of a
00:30:50.200compromise keep 2 000 nurses but is there any reason why you have to keep the other million
00:30:55.660of them right even if you keep the doctors wasn't one of the guys who ran over a christmas market
00:31:01.260a doctor well and that too again i just come back to the same point that i made towards the beginning
00:44:19.720Before we get into complete utopia, which I'm completely there for.
00:44:23.760i mean that that is the that that is his political philosophy are smarter men than zach polanski
00:44:29.600have tried to create utopia and failed well i mean i i mean you know this uh stellios but isn't isn't
00:44:35.920utopian the greek word for nowhere yeah right okay so he's going to create nowhere it's all vibes for
00:44:42.400him that's that's the problem if we look at the policy it's all bonkers yes but this is the really
00:44:47.760worrying bit the bit after he commits himself to utopia which is a a farcical idea this is
00:44:53.440the chilling bit where he he says what he's going to do with us uh there are people though who would
00:44:58.440identify as right-wing or indeed even far-right and no matter what humanity or community we put
00:45:04.200them in they are uh set on destroying or pushing this toxicity do we think we can change their
00:45:12.480minds or is it a case of building a society that doesn't include them well he's evil there's no
00:45:19.000other way of saying it of saying it he's evil but you can't you can't be an adult running a
00:45:24.980seemingly successful campaign and be that stupid it's all faint vibes he's evil yes but also his
00:45:32.460entire point it's like oh well you know there's not a community to put them in it's like no no
00:45:36.680no they were the community yes they were the entire community the community of the english
00:45:42.520people of england and then you've gone around you know and advocated for years and he and the rest
00:45:47.940of the establishment you know because the migration issue has basically been the the open
00:45:51.960door that they push at whilst continually pretending to be edgy and different yes more
00:45:57.740radical so like no you've destroyed communities which is why the far right have rosen up because
00:46:06.080they hate seeing day to day i mean honestly just the conversations i've had yeah i'll just quickly
00:46:14.440restate his words um there are people who we would identify as right wing or even far right
00:46:20.620and no matter what humanity or community we put them on they were in the center of destroying it
00:46:25.760um do we think we can change their minds or do we build a society that doesn't include them
00:46:31.880so so what what does he mean by that is he is he going to have a shot or is he going to put his
00:46:35.540gulags um the reason i ask this question is because this exact philosophy has been tried
00:46:41.820many many times i put together my little presentation on this to give you an example
00:46:45.880but the the philosophy is you have your utopian vision right and then you get disappointed and
00:46:53.360then you have to blame somebody and then you have to use coercion and i've got my top 10 examples of
00:46:58.340when commies have done this before so there's the khmer rouge um you know there's a bloody mouse
00:47:03.640thing how do i make that's basically the evil retard regime samson how oh here we go there we
00:47:08.900So Khmer Rouge, they killed 30 percent of their own population, pursuing exactly this philosophy, which is utopian vision, disappointment, blame, coercion.
00:47:20.300Can I say something? Because I think Pol Pot was the most mental of them all, because it was also just stupid moves.
00:47:28.040He was aided by the Viet Cong to get power, and one and a half, two years afterwards, he just out of nowhere started attacking the Viet Cong.
00:56:18.240tessa uh where would where would tessa come down on what how do we solve the uh the right wing
00:56:25.280problem uh tom tom might have a view tom no we we will be at tessa's and tom's mercy if this ever
00:56:33.380if this ever comes to pass um alexandria head apparently um slightly funny second name there
00:56:41.240given anyway um it's good that yeah they're they're the first and of course in swindon here
00:56:46.760ah in in swindon here we have our um yeah we have our candidates um who is is in this video
00:56:55.500one of the green party counter yes there we go um got a you well you're a lovely dress
00:57:03.440is it a skirt thing maybe maybe it's a kilt maybe maybe he or she is scottish i don't want to assume
00:57:09.240your um the the thing is as well right i mean this is a great example of it you don't think
00:57:15.740to yourself okay we actually just need to put someone forward who is going to be popular on
00:57:21.880the door right who is going to be like trustworthy to to just get into the position of power and
00:57:27.660authority in the first place and then we can be ideological about it no it's just straight into
00:57:33.060the ideological yes from the very beginning damn the consequences or the result that might come
00:57:38.580And do we think that these people might have any spite, you know, for Lotus Eaters and the people who watch us?
00:57:45.040I mean, I suspect so, because that particular candidate was screaming at us that we were Nazis for a couple of hours during our live event.
01:00:50.280And we are going to focus a lot on the distinction between the principles of the founding of the American Declaration of Independence of 1776.
01:01:10.040Right, but we are going to draw a particular distinction between these principles and how progressives understand them.
01:01:17.320And we will talk a lot about the excellent speech by Justice Clarence Thomas against progressivism.
01:01:24.460Just one thing to say, we are giving criticisms of the establishment on a daily basis, but it's good every now and then where we have a really high-profile individual within the establishment who is making a really great case for things that we believe in and against ideologies that we are rejecting.
01:01:49.600Thomas is someone with a good number of victories under his belt.
01:01:54.300You know, he's contributed some great wins for the American, you know, whether it's Roe v. Wade being repealed or, you know, a lot of the DEI stuff that was going on with Harvard and that being unconstitutional, et cetera.
01:02:05.400So there are, you know, many things there.
01:02:07.100Yes. And just let me contextualize briefly. The idea is basically that in the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson was later ratified by more of the U.S. founding fathers.
01:02:22.080he was talking about the government as having to protect the rights to life liberty and the pursuit
01:02:27.600of happiness and i want us to focus a lot on how progressives take this very language and they
01:02:35.360twist it and essentially they go against the principles of the u.s founding and they are
01:02:41.600basically making it unrecognizable they try to create they try to create a foobar situation
01:02:48.400yeah so it's a good thing to remember the original uh spirit of the declaration of
01:02:55.500independence and the principles that uh were inspired it and uh never forget this because
01:03:02.460fundamentally in this case you could argue that in 70 76 you were on opposing sides
01:03:08.120with uh the americans but now i don't think that's the case benjamin arnold did nothing
01:03:14.460rock now it's the same philosophy wreck wreaking havoc against the west so i think that in this
01:03:21.800case this is something interesting to bear in mind but also very also remember that lots of
01:03:27.520the principles of the american founding were of english origin philosophically speaking oh sorry
01:03:34.100benedict arnold i meant yes no you're right though yeah of course no i had to name the right
01:03:39.100So let's look at some parts of the speech.
01:03:43.860He particularly targets Woodrow Wilson as, you know, one of the worst presidents of the U.S.
01:03:50.700And then we are going to talk about the dialectic of progressivism and how it is that progressives are taking the sort of software, the cultural software of the Western world, which is to a very large extent classically liberal.
01:04:06.180and they're trying to completely twist it and make it unrecognizable and justify basically
01:04:12.360government overreach and the kinds of things that we talked about in the previous segment
01:04:16.460dan segment which was apple which by the time you're looking at it at this segment right now
01:04:23.400will have been uploaded 8 p.m uk time of tuesday this is going to be a saturday all right okay
01:04:32.620let's look at what he says here. Since Wilson's presidency, progressivism has made many inroads
01:04:40.460into our system of government and our way of life. It has coexisted uneasily with the principles
01:04:49.720of the Declaration. Because it is opposed to those principles, it is not possible for the
01:07:08.760and people who are very subversive, generally speaking.
01:07:13.520And what the classical liberals are saying
01:07:16.620is that you need civil society to you need to allow human beings to be human beings yes there's
01:07:22.300a natural instinct for human beings to be social and you the government should basically be a
01:07:28.420night watchman state that is going to protect these rights and these rights are rights of
01:07:33.900non-interference in other words negative rights jefferson's it is the pursuit of happiness it's
01:07:41.000your pursuit yeah of the happiness of your family it's something you attain for yourself it's
01:07:45.960something that requires the exercising of your agency it's not something that the state is going
01:07:51.120to give you i mean jefferson would never have believed that it's it's uh it's uh that's exactly
01:07:57.900it because what they are saying what the progressives are saying and the modern liberals
01:08:03.380is that the state should be the main engine of social life and in a way they're saying that
01:08:11.040society is irreparably morally corrupt it's selfish as danny mentioned before with the
01:08:17.480communist pipeline it's like everything would be great if it weren't for you or acting like this
01:08:23.580so they're saying the state is the fundamental engine of social life and the fundamental way
01:08:30.900to sustain the moral fiber of the nation and they believe that individuals can't make themselves
01:08:38.260happy and that basically the state needs to give people life liberty and and make them happy so
01:08:49.760it's not like we are going to create a framework within which you will have to be an active being
01:08:57.420who will have to respect limits but also within those limits you will pursue your own the
01:09:05.100conception of your own good um they're basically saying we are going to tell you what the good is
01:09:11.960consistent we're going to force it upon you enforcing it upon you we're making you free
01:09:17.660and we are going to essentially grant you life we're going to make you free and we're going to
01:09:26.480make you happy and this obviously is nonsense um well sorry may i just say one focus on one
01:09:33.960other word in there as well truths to be self-evident life it's like okay well life itself
01:09:41.080given that these guys are radical abortionists yeah and well one thing to say here is because
01:09:47.280methodology is important and how we arrive at some conclusions and the wider framework that we
01:09:55.480integrate these conclusions in is sometimes as important as the conclusions we draw and what
01:10:02.080What Justice Thomas mentions is that it was especially with John Dewey that there was a massive onslaught on the idea of self-evident rights.
01:10:14.100So rights stopped being, in the minds of progressives, natural rights that are to hold for everyone.
01:10:23.760They became contingent, historical, particular rights that weren't rights that the government had to respect.
01:10:32.080but they were rights that were privileges to be enjoyed at the bureaucrats discretion right
01:10:39.060yeah i mean i just think about my own life and you know i mean yeah amongst the hell that is
01:10:45.700becoming modern britain you know it's like you know so many people who've helped me attain some
01:10:50.620state of happiness it's been your family your loved ones right your nearest and dearest it's
01:10:55.560never been a whoever sent you that york gt a bureaucrat yeah people who sent me the york
01:11:00.700tea yesterday thank you it's never been some faceless bureaucrat no yeah and uh yeah and but
01:11:07.760think of it also on a daily basis and i'm sure our audience has several examples of wokeness
01:11:13.660wokeness is specifically such a governmental intervention it says ye as a society are
01:11:20.780irreparably corrupt it's a form i have engineering absolutely i have to step in because i'm the
01:11:26.380enlightened bureaucrat, I have to step in and I have to force upon you my vision of what constitutes
01:11:33.760a good community. And that community is, for instance, an inclusive community. It's a DEI
01:11:40.380community. Now, we hear by particularly emboldened individuals like Zach Polanski that their community
01:11:47.620doesn't involve right-wingers. But that's the language that they are using. And when you're
01:11:53.080using this language essentially you understand you everyone who's an adult understands that you
01:11:59.320can't make people happy you can't make everyone happy so they want to make their political allies
01:12:04.780happy by how but they're saying right you are the haves and i'm going to completely wage war on you
01:12:13.300in order to give to the have-nots and when i'm talking about the have-nots i'm not talking just
01:12:19.120materially we're also talking psychologically think of for instance the idea of offending
01:12:25.620people it's like when the government goes and says don't offend people or address them with
01:12:30.900their preferred pronoun they aren't just saying well just you know respect them they're going to
01:12:36.560say you are going to do this and this and that because the role of the government is to make
01:12:41.280that individual happy so the guy if that individual requires to be addressed with a particular pronoun
01:12:47.640The job of the government is to force everyone else to address them with a pronoun.
01:12:55.300In a Lockean world with its weak, decentralized government and strong individual rights,
01:13:03.280they say our 18th century declaration has prevented us from progressing to higher forms of government.
01:13:11.380But we were fortunate not to trade our lock-in bonds for the supposedly enlightened world of Hegel, Marx and their followers.
01:13:23.800I don't think it's wrong. I don't think it's wrong.
01:13:26.880If you look at Europe right now, and obviously the same challenges are present in the US,
01:13:34.420But if you look at Europe right now, it does seem to be a continent that is governed by people who are cocked by Marxists in a way, even despite the fact that Marxism lost as a major system.
01:13:50.720We do have a bureaucratic leadership in the EU that constantly talks about how progressive it is and how enlightened it is and how their system of government is basically better than the parochial decentralization of the Lockean U.S. Constitution.
01:14:11.920i don't think that we are experiencing anything other than cultural warfare against europe here
01:14:20.760you could argue that this happens in the states and i don't think that he would disagree with you
01:14:25.680there either but i think that he he does have a point where he says that in a way within within
01:14:32.920europe there seems to be a cultural influence that is incredibly negative and it comes directly
01:14:40.120from people with Marxist and philo-Marxist sentiments who have infiltrated the top echelons
01:14:48.460of power within Europe and are governing with an ecophobic way.
01:14:52.400And they're clear, sometimes they're adamant about wanting to destroy European civilization.
01:14:58.340And sometimes they are cheering for saying, we want to replace European individuals.
01:15:03.960I'm talking, for instance, Philippe Melenchon in France and his acolytes, also some members of the Podemos in Spain.
01:15:13.420Yeah. And even those who are less bold than Melenchon, it's still the natural conclusion of the policies they espouse.
01:15:20.080And I will speed up a bit due to time considerations.
01:15:23.660It's just there is something really deeply problematic about the whole notion of progressivism.
01:15:29.780And I think that this is important because it's important to notice and bear in mind because I think it's important to be realistic.
01:15:37.100And Dan, I think you were completely correct when we were discussing your segment is that people who are of a more right-wing persuasion are more realistic and are more prone to think that whatever they consider to be the utopia isn't necessarily achievable in this world.
01:15:55.580I think that there is a spirit of humility there and a spirit of realism that is important to recapture.
01:16:03.660And when it comes to right now the right wing, I think that there is an overcompensation for something that was a mistake of the past.
01:16:13.280In the last decades of the Cold War, there was an overemphasis on economics.
01:16:18.720and almost everyone was talking about economics and was forgetting lots of the crucial other
01:16:24.440stuff like the importance of culture the importance of institutions the importance
01:16:28.360of tradition and i want to say that it seems to me particularly uh understandable and reasonable
01:16:35.480and justified to an extent to try to compensate for that loss but i will say it seems to me that
01:16:42.320right now i do see people within the right wing in the western world to be very much prone to
01:16:50.000completely neglect economics and i will say that yeah the homo economicus reductionist view of
01:16:56.960human beings is mistaken that doesn't mean that economics isn't a very important thing an activity
01:17:05.480that we constantly engage in and we can't afford to we can't afford to lose that that's how i see
01:17:12.760this is true but i i think it's also important to uh concede i mean of you to understand economics
01:17:19.720much better than i do but we have to also address the fact that um economic or just wealth inequality
01:17:26.040is becoming a decisive pull factor factor for many many voters you know particularly amongst
01:17:33.400are young and those are the things that restore are going to have to address you know well basically
01:17:39.360they should address this but one of the other things is that when you essentially what what
01:17:45.820what uh the argument is and i think that history supports it is that when you have in it when you
01:17:51.880you accept inequality in economics you are giving the right incentives to people you're saying you
01:17:58.840will get ahead by producing something that many people will find a value instead of just saying
01:18:04.380you will get ahead by sucking up to the government so you're creating a system where people have the
01:18:10.420incentive to create wealth instead of just thinking that wealth is going to magically
01:18:15.200be created and they're going there will be entrusted with the power to redistribute it
01:18:20.920So when you allow inequality in proper conditions, in conditions where you don't have massive intervention, government intervention in the economy and society, you do have a pie that is much bigger than the pie you would produce otherwise.
01:18:38.560So inequality doesn't necessarily imply that those who are worse off in the hierarchy are going to be worse off than they would be in a condition where there would be zero wealth inequality, where such incentives wouldn't exist.
01:18:57.180So this is an argument that it's good to remember.
01:19:00.840And one thing to say is that if you want to peel through the onion of deception
01:19:05.080of the modern liberal propaganda is that they are promising a goal
01:19:10.220and they can't achieve that goal with the means that they want to, with the state.
01:28:16.68090 people carl did a really good video the other day on his maybe a cad daily or maybe well maybe
01:28:22.380his main one whatever it was and he was basically saying all left-wing politics is hating your
01:28:27.560father and all right-wing politics is being frustrated and annoyed by the stupidity of
01:28:33.300your first grade teacher and i'm like yeah that is so true checks out because i quite like my
01:28:41.200parents and then i then i started going to school and it's like who are these idiots with authority
01:28:47.440over me yes they can't get anything right like i'm six and i know that you're wrong what are
01:28:52.640you doing woman didn't like that at all anyway um that it does kind of make sense actually that as
01:28:59.740soon as you were able to start speaking you just went around telling people they were wrong that
01:29:04.360they were they didn't want me to do that they shouldn't have been wrong
01:29:08.460yes especially not miss margaret i mean god um what else does he say um only there's some other
01:29:17.300people there um even if zesty king says i think even if the greens won the next general election
01:29:24.220the british armed forces would perform a military coup um can i comment on that is that fed posty
01:29:31.180i mean i'll be there for that if if zach polanski can say i'm there for um utopia i can say i'm there
01:29:38.000for the military coup if they ever get in because god well i mean polanski's position of basically
01:29:44.480saying yeah these people just don't really have a place in society it's like and you think that's
01:29:49.580going to be a peaceful transfer of power do you zach after saying that i mean very unlikely when
01:29:56.880you put people in that much of an existential position for the safety and i'm certainly not
01:30:01.860going to respond to what chat is talking about now so let's move on right uh derek power master
01:30:06.960of chippies the key overlooked word is pursuit meaning there is no guarantee of having and no
01:30:12.520obligation of obtaining it proletariat says there's a jefferson quote you have the right to pursue
01:30:17.760happiness but you have to catch it yourself uh ben gale says communism isn't a huge problem in
01:30:23.700europe or britain american style progressiveness and neoliberal economics is far more of a problem
01:30:29.420than a mythical communist takeover the people would call communists are mainly neoliberals
01:30:34.640If you want to call them liberals because they talk about liberty and autonomy all the time, I specifically mentioned them. That was a segment about them. But there is also the other bit, the subversion element and the element of incrementalism that you see, especially in the Fabian philosophy.
01:30:54.840And I will say this, there were many Rawlsians in academia who had marks for their wallpaper