The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1404

00:00:00.000 Hello, everyone. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seaters.

00:00:03.860 Today's Friday, the last Friday of April.

00:00:06.720 It's the 24th of the month, and this is the year 2026, in case you're wondering.

00:00:12.480 And I'm very pleased today to be joined by Brother Harry and Brother Luca. 0.95

00:00:17.040 And we are going to talk about Muslim-only housing, Mexicans versus robots. 0.98

00:00:24.080 Are they going to have a Mexican standoff? 1.00

00:00:26.020 Hey. 0.56

00:00:27.480 Yeah.

00:00:28.120 and also hassan paika saying the quiet part out loud right but before we do this we have some

00:00:35.600 announcements at 3 p.m we're going to have the gold tier zoom this is going to be the last friday

00:00:41.440 of the month as i said and do come to join the people who are going to be on it which is me and

00:00:47.200 harry yes so if you're not sick of me yet check them out join the gold zoom tier the gold tier

00:00:57.120 zoom call right join gold tier anyway we also have some merchandise right so we have a st george's

00:01:06.640 day sale that was yesterday but the sale is still going on 50 off selected items 15 that's 15 it did

00:01:13.980 sound a little bit like 50 when you said that i put an n there i said i was just i was just making

00:01:19.660 sure because i didn't hear the n and let's stop talking about the letter n before the chat gets

00:01:24.600 was in trouble 15 percent off you don't want to say n for england the ghost mug and the gamazilla

00:01:34.740 teatone mug and also the faux england t-shirt uk yeah i assume i think that the these are

00:01:43.480 excellent sales this is an excellent offer take advantage of it say yes to life carpe diem right

00:01:52.720 We also have this interview with Stefan Larsson from Denmark, and I interviewed him about the Danish exceptionalism.

00:02:04.380 Check it out to find out why Denmark, even though it was governed by social democrats, can afford to be a bit more base than other members of the EU.

00:02:15.520 They did several things correctly in the past, and this has worked really well for them.

00:02:21.360 right so check it out we're talking about multiculturalism about uh culture we're talking

00:02:26.580 about all sorts of things also greenland check it out there's just uh one more thing to promote as

00:02:32.180 well which is um this uh saint george's day uh daily that i recorded yesterday where i did sing

00:02:37.880 things a little bit differently and i actually just recorded about 20 minutes of me reading

00:02:42.760 a saint george's day speech presented and written by the great rudyard kipling back in 1920 for the

00:02:49.520 Royal Society of St. George because he has such phenomenal meticulous insights into the English

00:02:55.060 character into our history why we behave the way we behave and why things turned out as they did

00:03:00.520 and I think it's really interesting many many kind comments on it actually saying it was a wonderful

00:03:06.140 thing to present so if that sounds of interest to you it's there on the daily channel which if

00:03:10.840 you've not you should go subscribe to because we're ticking up to 100k now so that'd be nice

00:03:16.100 help us out. Okay, so for my segment then, let's start talking about housing, shall we, and how

00:03:25.700 the Muslims don't seem quite as generous and colourblind, I suppose, or faithblind, or 0.99

00:03:31.800 whichever other way you want to put it. Who knew? Who could have seen this coming? So I went back 1.00

00:03:39.300 for my sins when I used to live in London. I'd often go to visit a friend in Barking, and whilst

00:03:44.680 I was there it was that thing that as soon as you got out of the Barking train station

00:03:48.700 you would just look around and you would honestly think that you were somewhere in Bangladesh

00:03:53.240 or you know Arabia wherever it was but last of all you'd certainly wouldn't think you

00:03:58.640 were standing in England and then I had this one occasion where I was doing some research

00:04:03.260 for on Captain James Cook because actually he was married all those years ago at the

00:04:09.160 little church over in Barking and so I went to the church to go and do the research and

00:04:14.060 have a look around and speak to the members of staff there wonderful wonderful people but the

00:04:19.420 thing was that as soon as you stepped into that church all of a sudden you felt like you were

00:04:24.460 actually stood in england again everyone in there was english and you realize that actually what

00:04:29.060 this church represents now is the last holdout of the english community in a place where when

00:04:36.400 they'd grown up in you know in the entirety of barking they'd never have anticipated never 0.81

00:04:41.360 have dreamed never seen on the horizon what was quite in store for them and it's always stuck with

00:04:47.640 me that just you know because for us right being of the age we are we actually kind of see a light

00:04:53.140 at the end of the tunnel right we see a way that we actually win this that we restore Britain and

00:04:58.080 so many of the terrible things that you know our people have had to endure but for those people in

00:05:03.400 that church I just looked at them you know in the late 70s early 80s and I just thought all they've

00:05:09.540 known their entire life you know they were lucky enough to be born Englishmen and women and all

00:05:14.300 they ever got to really experience of that was slowly watching the places where they were born

00:05:19.280 and raised taken away from them piece by piece house by house street by street and I think it's 0.51

00:05:25.540 perhaps for that reason why I just wanted to hearken back to the Race Relations Act of 1968

00:05:32.460 because this was a very very important piece of legislation and I think it's one of the most

00:05:38.420 early examples of obviously it was passed by the labour party so it was full of their own sense of

00:05:46.020 ideological fairness quote unquote and charity to foreigners but it obviously presented that

00:05:53.300 sliding effect of watching the disinheritance of the english at that first hurdle and what we see

00:06:00.340 if we scroll down to section five which i should have had up beforehand apologies uh here we are

00:06:07.220 Housing, accommodation and business and other premises.

00:06:09.980 It shall be unlawful for any person having power to dispose or otherwise concerned with the disposal of housing, accommodation, business premises and all other lands to discriminate against any person seeking to acquire any such accommodation, premises or other land by refusing or deliberately admitting to dispose of it to him or to dispose of it to him on the like terms and the like circumstances.

00:06:37.020 as in the cases of other persons and going through it essentially what this means is that all of a

00:06:42.260 sudden someone who was English who owned a house in England who had done the grind of working paying

00:06:47.980 the taxes owning property right that great aspiration that all Englishmen strive towards

00:06:54.360 owning their own property for the government to come in and tell them actually you don't have

00:07:00.140 as much of a say as you thought you do over who you rent out your home to or any of these sorts

00:07:05.980 of things and even if you live in with that person if you're the landlord and they're actually moving

00:07:10.540 in with you all of a sudden you're not allowed to prejudice based on your own taste your own

00:07:16.580 sense of identity who you think would be someone of good character to welcome into your home and

00:07:22.480 you know your property and it's for this reason as for many reasons in fact but this was one of

00:07:29.260 the things that of course prompted Enoch Powell to give the rivers of blood

00:07:35.980 speech back in 1968 as a way to basically raise the public awareness and

00:07:41.740 mount enough pressure on the Labour government so that this act was not

00:07:46.420 brought into force because of the obvious damaging effect that it would

00:07:51.340 have on English identity in our homelands.

00:07:54.940 Not just communities in general. One of the interesting knock-on effects that I

00:07:58.900 would imagine if you looked into it might have happened as a result of this is if you were

00:08:03.060 somebody who was slightly more discerning as a landlord and you know wanted to maintain a

00:08:07.460 community with a particular character and identity to it there are ways around these kinds of laws

00:08:14.500 but they are ways that have knock-on effects for everybody else for instance one thing that many 1.00

00:08:21.400 people might think to do in that case well they go well the immigrants coming into the country who

00:08:25.640 might want accommodation are probably not going to be paid as well as the Englishman therefore as a 1.00

00:08:30.740 barrier to entry I might raise the rental prices on my flat as a barrier to the immigrants who 0.92

00:08:37.680 wouldn't be able to afford it and it creates a kind of selection mechanism where if somebody's 1.00

00:08:42.140 earning enough to be able to afford this they're going to be of a particular character and a

00:08:45.720 particular identity of course that might help them and it might help the community but for

00:08:50.220 young Englishmen that sort of thing just means that there's an even greater barrier for them

00:08:55.700 to find their own place and be able to move out and I would imagine that has had knock-on effects

00:08:59.780 into the present time but there's also the other bit I agree with you Harry there's also the other

00:09:05.200 bit that this is a very subjective law and wherever you have subjectivity in legislation

00:09:11.320 you have loopholes for arbitrariness because you could actually say well no I'm giving it to person

00:09:18.220 ex because i think that they're gonna take good care of this house and this is where i grew up

00:09:23.500 for instance and i i don't want to i may have to leave but i don't want to see it being destroyed

00:09:28.220 or something as a property and they can tell they can basically say no we are basically trying to

00:09:35.180 do some mental diagnosis on you we are we know better than you what you think you are and you're

00:09:42.540 saying this because you're a racist and you need bias training and microaggression training and 0.98

00:09:47.340 And you need to basically not sell it to whoever you want to sell it. 0.93

00:09:51.220 You need to sell it to whoever we are going to tell you to sell it.

00:09:54.780 And I'm sure at some point they'll tell you something about the price as well.

00:09:58.580 Right.

00:09:59.220 But obviously this speaks, to just come back to that point,

00:10:02.860 about the British state purposefully, actively,

00:10:08.520 basically lessening the strength of hand of the English people in their own homeland

00:10:12.840 and their ability to buy property.

00:10:15.620 And so we get... 1.00

00:10:16.460 Well, just the one last thing as well, it's frankly, why wouldn't you want to keep cheap foreigners out of your accommodation? 1.00

00:10:25.260 We've seen plenty of times from the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan himself, 1.00

00:10:29.480 going around to all of the various properties that have been rented out of social housing in London,

00:10:34.900 where you go there, they've absolutely trashed the place, they've taken no care, taken no responsibility for it,

00:10:40.740 and now they're complaining that they want more handouts

00:10:43.820 because they've taped up all of the ventilation,

00:10:47.060 kept all of the windows closed, had the heating on forever,

00:10:50.980 and now they've got damp patches and black mould,

00:10:53.800 and oh my god, I've got asthma now and I can't breathe and I'm dying. 1.00

00:10:57.100 Well, that's your own stupid fault for not opening a window 1.00

00:10:59.680 and taping up all the vents. 1.00

00:11:01.320 And also nothing's enough for them.

00:11:03.620 It's never enough.

00:11:05.160 And it's all compounded as well,

00:11:07.140 particularly just an anecdotal piece of evidence.

00:11:10.060 back when I was living in Lincoln towards the beginning of last year was the first place that

00:11:15.640 I moved into in Lincoln there was a Nigerian gentleman who moved in into the house with me

00:11:21.180 and then before you know it it's like he has a friend and he has a friend and then before you

00:11:25.560 know it it's not because if it was like there's an Indian there's a Pakistani there's a Nigerian 0.62

00:11:30.740 it's like at least that forces them to all speak English because it's the only language they 0.95

00:11:35.480 jim might might understand or you know commonly be able to speak but when all of a sudden everyone 0.98

00:11:41.020 is of the other block like a consolidated block all of a sudden you find yourself that they're 0.92

00:11:46.220 all speaking nigerian in the kitchen you don't know what's being said you come into the kitchen 0.81

00:11:49.760 they're all being very rude and hostile to you and on and on it goes and these are just instances

00:11:54.940 and types of scenarios that british people are now having to live in um as they go in and because

00:12:00.740 the property agencies are so impersonal and so hostile they just see oh this person has this job

00:12:07.160 and they can put without any real regard for what you know extra second order effects this may take 0.83

00:12:14.640 but all of this is to work to basically um disempower ourselves at the behest of foreigners

00:12:23.520 and the thing was as well we compromised our own position on this and i assume in the folly

00:12:30.120 of the people thinking in the 1960s, I don't know, did they expect that people were coming

00:12:35.780 from the Commonwealth so they might have the same sense of fair play and colour blindness

00:12:40.700 that Britain was trying to foster at the time? Well, absolutely not. Now, although full facts

00:12:46.260 say that this is a false claim that Sadiq Khan last year was building 40,000 new homes for

00:12:52.680 Muslims only, I will read the actual quote because I feel like they're splitting hairs here where

00:12:58.680 they really were so Sadiq Khan said the other big issue facing Londoners particularly Londoners of

00:13:05.000 Islamic faith is the issue of housing and so we need to build far more homes in our city because 1.00

00:13:10.940 they know how often from uh sorry because you know how often people from minority communities 0.99

00:13:16.260 want to live near a mosque near halal food near places where they uh there are other people like

00:13:22.900 them for a variety of obvious reasons and they're priced out because they're not uh there's not

00:13:29.160 enough housing so we're going to build at least 40 000 council homes at least 6 000 rental uh

00:13:36.220 rent control homes as well so within this you see him literally saying look people of a particular

00:13:41.460 community have particular tastes particular prejudices and biases and they would obviously

00:13:47.240 like to live in the community surrounded by themselves and this is of course human nature

00:13:52.760 they put it in the article and say well he actually said and give the exact quote that you 1.00

00:13:57.280 gave there and go see chud stupid moron speaking on twitter online he said the exact thing that 0.93

00:14:05.340 you said that he did yeah and there's no real rebuttal there it's like not particularly great 0.99

00:14:11.040 good job well done fact check thank you so it's just another example of foreigners moving in 0.99

00:14:17.140 taking advantage of the level playing field that we created sabotaging ourselves for their benefit 0.90

00:14:24.100 and then once having access to the to you know influence amongst housing and as the mayor of

00:14:30.580 london and all the rest of it they just get to turn around and post advertisements like this

00:14:36.240 and now we have london landlords illegally advertising muslim only uh flat rentals now

00:14:42.400 this was an expose uh by a actually good bit of journalism from the telegraph uh yes yeah i have

00:14:48.620 a question uh uh to both of you because i'm definitely not the person to to answer it but

00:14:54.260 i want to see why this happened and why things like this happen and one scenario that i find

00:15:01.800 plausible and i want to find out what you think about it is that post that was signed in 1968

00:15:08.320 And by 1968, the colonialism was, let's say, up and running.

00:15:12.880 So was this a sort of predicament where people in power didn't want to have the prestige loss going with, let's say, the decline of the empire and said, let us somehow recreate the conditions of the empire on a global scale within the country?

00:15:34.900 And when it comes to a global scale, yeah, you do have multiculturalism because you have multiple colonies.

00:15:41.600 So the only way to recreate this and sort of have a sense of continuity with the imperial past was to recreate the multicultural conditions within one country.

00:15:52.040 I would expect that there was a lot of hubris animating the people pushing that legislation, opening the floodgates to immigration that meant that they did this.

00:16:01.680 I would imagine, yeah, a lot of it was probably ego.

00:16:03.940 well you know 10 years ago i was admitted an administrator of the empire now i'm just going

00:16:10.200 to be an administrator of a of a vassal state backwater at the edge of europe somewhere no no

00:16:16.500 no i still need to feel like i'm in charge of a grand global empire so let's just bring it here

00:16:20.760 i imagine there was a lot of that kind of thinking going on but similarly when you have these people 0.58

00:16:26.320 here and you see that they immediately form into ethnic blocks and ghettoize themselves

00:16:31.480 from a managerial perspective everything is a problem to be solved and everything needs to be 0.79

00:16:37.780 flattened so this simply just folds into the logic of managerialism everybody needs to be an

00:16:43.000 interchangeable unit and if we have them all blocked off amongst themselves we can't treat

00:16:48.360 them as such or at least not as easily therefore they see it as a way to quell like push integration

00:16:55.220 and quell any divisions that might exist between those communities and also just to give themselves

00:17:00.380 again something more to do from a manager's perspective this is it's the same thing with the

00:17:06.240 community relations service in america really where you go like all right we're going to force

00:17:11.960 all of you together oops that's created loads of problems well in that case we're going to need to

00:17:16.220 create a government agency that can go in and stop there from being too many big problems all at once

00:17:23.040 it's just it's just the reality of trying to force all of these people to live together

00:17:27.260 who don't want to live together no they don't as evidenced by the fact that obviously these

00:17:32.200 muslim landlords only want muslims living in the rented accommodation and obviously i think one of

00:17:38.240 the reasons why this is allowed to happen is chiefly because it's london and obviously everyone 0.99

00:17:43.320 in london knows that there is a certain permissiveness uh you know just built around 0.98

00:17:47.700 foreigners and their own agency and what they're able to get away with in a way that certainly

00:17:52.300 would you know i don't want to imagine if this is reversed and everything but like an englishman 0.94

00:17:57.100 would never be allowed to get away with this the moment that there was any sort of like whites only

00:18:01.820 on the front of a rental well that's the thing you would never get away with it the thing is 0.99

00:18:07.680 now that they're here yeah with the idea of deportations and re-migration in the on the

00:18:15.320 on the horizon nowhere near where we are right now it's something that we have to acknowledge

00:18:20.040 if it's going to happen it's going to happen in the future for the time being while these people 1.00

00:18:25.580 are here i would rather that they be able to do this and keep to themselves so long as whites are

00:18:33.360 able to do it as well yeah freedom of association if there are people who want to in like um

00:18:40.640 communicate with one another and live with one another whatever but there are still plenty of

00:18:45.540 people i would say the vast majority of englishmen who would want to live amongst other english of

00:18:49.900 course so long as they're not being forced into our communities as kind of like the communal

00:18:54.900 equivalent of a union breaker a strike breaker yeah then that wouldn't be as much of a problem

00:19:00.360 because everybody could know okay this is our part of the city this is your part of the city we won't

00:19:05.040 interact with one another except for minor trades there's no forced integrationist experiment so

00:19:10.420 there's no yeah because it is an experiment which just leads to lowered birth rates higher prices

00:19:16.160 for everything lower trust amongst people but it's the fact that there is the double standard

00:19:20.860 where they're allowed to do this but if you or i advertised for the same sort of thing

00:19:25.000 we would have the police knocking on our door and it speaks to the fact as well just remember what

00:19:29.420 is on the horizon if we don't uh get mass deportations remigration whatever you wish to

00:19:35.520 call it um well if we can see the system behaving so unfairly now right where actually minorities at

00:19:42.800 their own discretion you know i mean on this occasion uh you know just let's point to the

00:19:48.400 fact that the telegraph highlighted this and now there are some probing questions for the actual

00:19:53.020 company you know that rents out space and everything but were it not for the telegraph's

00:19:57.520 reporting on this particular story uh the people from within that community were never going to

00:20:03.100 like blow the whistle on it there would be no sense of unfairness or injustice they would have

00:20:07.080 just carried on in their own devices you know and filling it with their own people and i understand

00:20:13.380 that right there is a natural human nature incentive to be surrounded sadiq khan himself 0.58

00:20:18.520 admits it you know when it comes to the muslims and so this is all very understandable and just

00:20:24.920 to point out as well that further down the article it goes on to say the listings posted on facebook

00:20:29.960 gumtree and telegram a social media messaging channel thanks telegraph uh feature phrases such

00:20:36.440 as only for muslims and for two muslim boys or two muslim girls and muslims preferred but others

00:20:42.480 include direct appeals to Punjabi or Gujarati speakers

00:20:46.480 or Kerala or Hayyana people,

00:20:49.600 while there are also job vacancies on the platform

00:20:52.760 that advertise for men only.

00:20:55.140 I mean, kind of based.

00:20:56.600 On Facebook, a company called Russian Properties,

00:21:00.440 which also has a TikTok account,

00:21:02.140 had dozens of listings stating we prefer Muslim boys.

00:21:06.720 One double room is available for Muslims

00:21:09.260 and suitable for a Punjabi boy.

00:21:11.320 so it's not it's specific it's not even like you know just sort of like subcontinent or anything

00:21:15.900 it's like no specifically this group from within india itself or you know the hindus only it says

00:21:22.400 further down it as well so all of the communities are doing the hand uh their hand at it and this

00:21:29.600 points towards the fact as well that as time goes on with all of it of course if we go to sorry i've

00:21:38.020 totally lost where this map is here it was supposed to be in liverpool but i don't know

00:21:42.740 where it actually is that is liverpool oh well that's that's reassuring them it was somewhere

00:21:48.500 down here there we are you can see the big blue lighting up so but then you look at the fact that 1.00

00:21:54.180 it's like okay so on the one hand when left to their own devices and minorities are going around 0.91

00:21:59.060 basically saying no whites no english right so the which is what it is yeah in their property 0.68

00:22:06.340 um for the houses that they actually own own and rent out but then when you get

00:22:11.140 to a story like liverpool here where you can see there is a muslim enclave in this particular part 0.52

00:22:16.580 of the city you end up with something that is the actual opposite of it where basically link

00:22:23.060 sorry liverpool council have basically come into um what's the term basically requisitioning

00:22:29.780 um the the street where which is apparently very derelict near this mosque where it's happening

00:22:35.940 And as a result of this, they wanted to get planning permission to build some houses on it and actually build up the area. 0.95

00:22:42.180 But the Muslims don't want this because they have a mosque in the area and they see it as their land to do with what they want to do with it.

00:22:49.860 It goes on to say that Liverpool's Muslim community wants to protect the city's largest place of worship.

00:22:56.220 and its status as a beacon institution

00:23:00.500 as the leader of the local authorities insists

00:23:03.380 that no decision has been made about the future

00:23:05.520 of an adjacent piece of land which could be used for housing.

00:23:09.540 Dr Abdullah said that while the mosque and Muslim community

00:23:12.760 want to work with Liverpool Council to find a way forward

00:23:15.920 that suits all parties, housing development on the land

00:23:19.200 would be, quote, catastrophic for services.

00:23:22.060 The land at Rosebury Street is part of a number of locations

00:23:26.180 reclaimed by Liverpool Council

00:23:29.740 following the end of a lease agreement

00:23:31.560 and says here as well that

00:23:35.460 Al-Rahma Mosque serves around 3,500 people

00:23:39.680 every Friday alone for prayer sessions

00:23:42.000 and Dr Abdullah explains why passions ran so high over the land.

00:23:46.780 He said,

00:23:47.160 We've been in consultation and negotiation with the council

00:23:50.440 for the last five years.

00:23:52.080 Rosemary Street is right next to the mosque

00:23:54.000 and it's been derelict for over 30 years we don't have enough space and resources and we think the

00:23:59.360 center could be good for integration for the community so now the plan is like after it seems 1.00

00:24:04.320 that well the council expects some sort of concession from the muslims on this and can't 0.98

00:24:10.880 just use it as basically dead space yeah but you can't have integration in ghettos and although 0.91

00:24:16.960 there are issues massive problems with forced integrationist experiments ghettos are um are

00:24:24.720 not are the exact opposite of integrationism ghettos start when integrationism fails i think 0.73

00:24:30.320 they just use the word integration yeah when they're talking about this because they know

00:24:34.400 it's a buzzword yes they do they know it's a buzzword that people will respond to so they're

00:24:38.880 going like uh let us have our ghetto and it will help integration it's like a little hail mary that

00:24:44.480 that they're throwing out because they know the council's eventually going to go well if we if we

00:24:48.720 don't give them exactly what they want they'll call us racist which is very ironic because

00:24:52.640 multiculturalism tells you don't integrate keep your culture that's what it tells you yeah it's

00:24:58.120 all about it's a unity through division which is a very very contradictory idea it's hegelian

00:25:06.080 yet they keep trying it you have a higher synthesis yeah why didn't i think of it like

00:25:11.740 this it's all in um phenomenology of spirit or whatever it's called yeah um but anyway in

00:25:17.320 conclusion to all of this i do actually agree with you that for the time being it's actually

00:25:21.900 i i would personally find it preferable that you know the the minorities do rent out those spaces

00:25:28.660 to uh to other minorities because at least as you say then it's it slows at least a proliferation

00:25:35.120 out towards other spaces and in the meantime obviously all we can do is just remember

00:25:41.540 right that when we basically out of our own free will gave minorities a chance to have an even

00:25:47.680 playing field in britain they decided actually that they didn't have to play by those rules and

00:25:55.280 actually they felt no sense of reciprocity or fairness or goodwill to the english who had

00:26:01.040 granted them that in the first place and actually just decided to take the mick

00:26:05.720 yeah right there's a message for harry here by orcharder for five uh dollars thanks but harry

00:26:14.940 if the split happens as you say when it will be obvious of the differences and managers can have

00:26:21.920 that uh yeah that's true i mean the the differences are already obvious to to everybody anybody and

00:26:28.280 everybody knows the knows the differences that's why the kind of like um tommy robinson style

00:26:35.320 anti-muslim civic nationalism is so popular in the country among very very normal people you speak

00:26:41.460 to you can go onto the any street across the country and find lots of people who agree with 0.74

00:26:46.140 that uh so the managers are kind of just playing a fool's errand if they want to try and pretend

00:26:52.160 like they want they want to like wizard of oz style ignore the man behind the curtain yeah it's

00:26:56.940 very obvious that there's a man behind the curtain all right and uh moving on we'll go on to a

00:27:01.980 subject that's um kind of related to this which is why a lot of these people will be in the country

00:27:07.440 in the first place now in england we can say that there was an element of imperial hubris of wanting

00:27:13.520 to bring these people home from a governmental perspective but similarly you can say from

00:27:19.040 oligarchical perspective having a mass force of cheap labor who have no connections to the

00:27:25.260 community no social lives available to them and no ability to get home without having earned 0.61

00:27:31.640 enough money is a very very enticing prospect if you want to keep cheap labor costs down this is

00:27:38.040 something that has been remarked on by many people but there is another aspect to it because we're

00:27:44.360 talking about government and oligarchs whereas in america for instance there's this video that's

00:27:51.160 been going around recently which has caused a lot of controversy because it appears to show that same

00:27:57.220 kind of deracinated disconnected communal mentality displayed not by an oligarch a large

00:28:06.020 business owner a billionaire or a government employee jobsworth but by a farmer somebody who

00:28:13.220 should be tilling the land should have a great connection to the soil and a great connection

00:28:18.160 to their local community whereas this video seems to show somebody who is almost angry and annoyed

00:28:25.760 at the inconvenience that ice raids in America are causing for her labor costs.

00:28:31.640 Despite the fact, as will become clear, she actually has plenty of money 0.80

00:28:35.460 with which to pay a fair wage to American native workers and even high schoolers.

00:28:41.880 Let's listen to this.

00:28:43.580 It's just been harder and harder and harder to find those people to work.

00:28:47.780 Bethany Gotts owns Quays Farm in Mountain Home. 0.95

00:28:50.720 But now, with fewer workers, a lot of the manual labor is left up to her.

00:28:55.240 She tells me she's tried hiring locally, but it's been difficult to find people willing to do the hard work.

00:29:01.740 Finding a legal...

00:29:03.500 I'm just going to add a little bracket there, for cheap wages.

00:29:07.800 That's always the little asterisks that you need to add on when you hear something like this,

00:29:12.640 who are willing to do the hard work for the wages you're offering.

00:29:17.480 All American here that is going to work as hard as an immigrant is nearly impossible. 1.00

00:29:23.460 She even posted job openings on Facebook. 1.00

00:29:26.440 I had seven people contact me about it, and when I sent them the description, I had no people respond.

00:29:32.420 She says hiring undocumented workers is not an option, with serious risks for both sides.

00:29:38.480 One, you're going to get fined. You have, unfortunately, an employee living in fear. 0.65

00:29:44.620 They could get picked up at any moment, and then you're without an employee.

00:29:47.600 To keep her farm running, Gotts is hiring high schoolers and is now looking into the federal H-2A visa program.

00:29:54.620 I have endeavored to spend $200,000 to build a small, small worker housing so that I can get H-2 workers next year.

00:30:03.080 Gotts hopes for long-term solutions that support both farmers and workers.

00:30:07.700 The misnomer that farmers exploit immigrants is just so sad to me because, like I said, my friends and neighbors, we love our workers.

00:30:16.280 they're a family and they want to work and they will work hard and there needs to be a path for

00:30:21.080 these people in our country because our government has failed them and it is failing i feel the

00:30:27.800 farmers now perhaps people in the comments and on youtube as well can help explain this to me

00:30:33.920 because frankly it just seems like she wants cheap labor yeah and i'd i'd reported on this

00:30:41.300 a few weeks ago in this segment of one easy trick to save america talking about how the trump

00:30:47.160 administration was actually currently looking to expand the h2a visa program to make it easier to

00:30:53.140 hire foreign workers for as farmhands for temporary visas but similarly that they were looking to

00:30:59.480 expand the visa program so that it wouldn't simply for temporary workers but also for permanent

00:31:05.660 workers on say for instance dairy farms and i was reading through a new york time article that

00:31:11.360 reported not only was it diminishing the wages and job availability for native american workers

00:31:16.280 but there were also reports in that article itself that even illegal workers were complaining

00:31:22.700 that the availability of cheap labor through legal h2a visas was meaning that the illegal

00:31:28.740 laborers themselves were also being priced out of the market which was quite a remarkable thing

00:31:34.820 and this seems to be expanding on that but you see sorry if i may you see here the mechanism

00:31:41.680 trying to work because she's saying you know like oh everyone i ask who is legal it's like

00:31:47.460 they won't do it for for that work and her sort of like framing of that is like oh it's because

00:31:52.760 they're lazy like they wouldn't work hard enough it's like no these are people who understand the

00:31:56.720 value of their labor and are willing to negotiate a better wage for their costs whereas if you're

00:32:02.340 illegal in a precarious position and you're in the country ice could come at any moment of course

00:32:07.200 you know there is a like a reciprocal kind of nature here of like her protecting them trying

00:32:12.320 to keep them and at the you know at um in trading for that they will work very very cheaply like as

00:32:19.400 well the fact that she's like says like high school kids and everything like that so basically

00:32:23.040 just anyone who's not willing to negotiate their own wage yeah yeah go on no just i i have a very

00:32:29.860 um i think this situation is a bit more complex and i say this because i'm very much aware with

00:32:37.860 the farming farming sector in the southern mediterranean and i think it's essentially

00:32:45.700 it's a situation where you have the worst of all worlds here it's almost it's a it's a situation

00:32:52.660 that is so complex that is designed to bring out the worst in everyone in every party involved and

00:32:58.660 And what I'm saying here, it will initially sound like much more of a disagreement than it actually is.

00:33:05.760 Please feel free.

00:33:06.460 Please.

00:33:07.120 Honestly, it's entirely on good faith.

00:33:11.000 So I think it isn't just an issue of either, you know, here, illegal farmer and, you know, native farmer here and this.

00:33:21.260 Because this, we need to bear in mind, first of all, lots of trading labor unions.

00:33:28.660 right they make it almost they make it very difficult for someone who wants to hire native

00:33:34.640 labor to hire native labor it isn't necessarily that yeah you do want as a farmer to pay cheap

00:33:41.540 labor you that's what you want to do generally speaking you want to minimize your costs that's

00:33:48.260 not something new it isn't happening right now you know in multiculturalism multicultural west

00:33:54.900 that's always been the case but labor unions make it even more even harder for you for a farmer to

00:34:03.140 hire native labor um sometimes and and sometimes there is such a thing as people who are very much

00:34:10.900 complaining about the farming sector and they won't do the work well i'm not let me say i'm not

00:34:18.300 saying i don't know about her in particular but there can be farmers who do want to who don't

00:34:23.820 care about have no no care about you know helping the natives there are also natives who use uh

00:34:32.780 rhetoric that is of a nationalist bent in order to just justify more gibbs for them well and i don't

00:34:41.600 know exactly when i'm just showing a particular example i don't know exactly what it is here but

00:34:48.340 there is such a thing but just let me say there is such a thing or something as people who who

00:34:53.680 just don't go to work the fields well i'll i'll ask this question what is the inherent evil of

00:35:02.840 unionized workers wanting a better wage for themselves and better working conditions

00:35:08.880 for instance his name has been taken off of it was it was it cesar chavez was he the uh the the

00:35:14.600 the labor union organizer in america whose day that was named after him was recently renamed

00:35:20.900 to farm workers day because of a number of alleged sexual assault cases that have come to light

00:35:26.780 recently obviously morally not a good man but historically and this was the case with him as

00:35:32.720 well and bear in mind his name was chavez clearly of a foreign extraction he and his union fought

00:35:38.600 like hell against foreign workers being brought into the country because unions historically

00:35:46.500 recognized that cheap labor was brought in internationally foreign workers could be come in

00:35:53.280 both so that they could be used for cheap labor and also as strike breakers and this is not just

00:35:58.320 foreign labor as well in america southern blacks following um following um the civil war were used

00:36:05.580 in the late 19th century as union strike breakers as well, because they didn't have any connections

00:36:11.220 or attachments to the community or care for the people that they were attacking, essentially.

00:36:17.200 And the thing is, unions have historically fought massively against immigration. And

00:36:22.740 I'm reading a book at the moment. It is coming from a leftist perspective, but it's interesting

00:36:26.680 to see an opposing view that's looking at the idea of international mass migration as

00:36:32.560 essentially a form of economic imperialism now i don't agree with everything that he's saying

00:36:36.880 but he does point out this author that in the 1980s you had people like reagan and you had

00:36:42.540 people like thatcher you could say the bastions of neoliberalism crushing the unions which meant

00:36:49.360 that jobs that were previously high wage that had good working conditions no longer had those

00:36:55.060 protections and in the 1990s following the end of the cold war all of a sudden that leaves

00:37:01.320 room open when people aren't going into those jobs anymore because they don't pay well enough 0.66

00:37:05.640 and they don't give you enough protections to start importing mass cheap labor from the third 0.91

00:37:12.100 world who are willing to work for those connections you could say it's illegals but now here we can

00:37:17.000 see as well that this current administration is looking to expand opportunities for people to come

00:37:21.000 in legally well i don't want unions to be dismantled and i don't think that unions are bad per se but

00:37:29.020 unions can be also used in order to to harm society for instance by communist infiltration

00:37:38.100 if you have labor unions that are being co-opted by communists and that's not exactly a well

00:37:45.460 stretch of the imagination you can actually you can actually get them to strike all the time

00:37:51.460 when they constantly strike and this happens in the south mediterranean a lot we've got the

00:37:57.060 strikes and transport for london right now yes that's where you also give a massive that's why

00:38:01.860 nick's not despite despite the stated intentions or the stated preferences you have their massive

00:38:10.080 incentives for people who say well listen i want you to help me farm my land uh but you're constantly

00:38:17.680 striking well i need to get labor so it's it's a more complex situation and i do think that in

00:38:25.400 some cases labor unions can be good in other cases i think their their action can be bad

00:38:30.800 but i'm not saying necessarily that they are bad it's not always black and white it's not always

00:38:35.540 black and white but uh yeah i think that in some cases there is a sort of the protectionist

00:38:41.900 mentality i think is making things worse in some situations it can but in this situation for

00:38:48.940 instance i mean she mentions that specifically in this incident she is spending two hundred 0.83

00:38:54.620 thousand dollars on housing costs for h2a visa holders who she might be able to bring in next 0.85

00:39:01.380 year that suggests to me that she does have money saved up that she does actually have the capital 0.80

00:39:07.540 funds available for her to be able to pay a fairer wage for people who would want to do that work

00:39:13.880 but she might be saying for instance she might be saying work 12 hours a day doing this really hard

00:39:19.800 work and i'll pay you pennies which most people when given other opportunities are not going to

00:39:25.360 take and then she goes such a shame i'm going to have to hire mexicans i'm just going to give you 0.76

00:39:30.460 one example why i'm getting a bit uh you know no no please frustrated with this topic not with you 0.75

00:39:35.760 but with the topic about it's about greece and it doesn't have to do necessarily with illegal labor

00:39:40.520 and I know that I may get a lot of hate for saying this

00:39:44.940 but there is such a thing in Greece happening

00:39:48.060 as people complaining about foreigners

00:39:51.020 getting the farming industry 0.98

00:39:52.400 but they just won't go and work in agriculture

00:39:55.420 and if they go and work

00:39:58.000 the few cases where they're going to work

00:39:59.920 they're going to ask three times the money

00:40:02.020 and they're going to do a third of the work

00:40:03.980 not all of them

00:40:04.960 I'm very happy to be disproven

00:40:06.780 I'm very happy

00:40:07.760 I want people to tell me

00:40:08.960 you're wrong for this reason

00:40:10.440 and i'm very happy to be disproven but i do think that the and this should be called out

00:40:15.440 there are people who constantly talk about the ethnos and about the nation not because they're

00:40:20.180 going to move their ass in order to contribute to it but because they want to more gibbs for

00:40:24.820 themselves without working that's why you see me a bit more agitated with that's one of the things 1.00

00:40:29.120 i don't think it's a problem when she complains that she's hiring high schoolers what will

00:40:33.160 actually young people like that it can be really beneficial for them to get out and do some hard

00:40:37.700 work and earn a fair wage for it you don't have to pay them as much yes but also they because

00:40:42.620 they're young and they're still learning they can learn the value of hard work and they can do

00:40:48.840 more difficult tasks for longer because they've just got more energy to them so that is something

00:40:55.020 culturally on a broader cultural level that you could say people have been saying for ages young

00:41:00.080 people need to learn to work hard well this is one way that she could be helping these people

00:41:04.620 But instead, she's complaining about it, saying, sorry, I'm going to have to get Pedro from just south of the border to do it instead.

00:41:12.280 And on the discussion there of, like, real-life examples and people wanting the work and then not actually doing it,

00:41:17.900 there was a response to this that I thought was interesting from this person who said that,

00:41:21.540 for the past two months, I have been applying to numerous farms and nurseries.

00:41:25.700 And this was something reflected in the New York Times article as well, where somebody was saying, like,

00:41:30.900 I keep actually applying for these jobs and they don't get back to me.

00:41:34.080 this guy says i tell them i'm willing to take low pay but not a single one hired me because they all

00:41:39.600 hire non-white people instead there is no shortage of hard-working white americans we're being denied

00:41:45.240 opportunity because we can't work 12 hours a day for seven dollars an hour but because the 0.66

00:41:50.720 foreigners are given welfare food stamps free health care government grants and don't contribute 0.99

00:41:54.740 to our tax system they can pocket the money and live better than us and that is another aspect to 0.99

00:41:59.140 this as well they will get government benefits that the native americans do not have access to 0.54

00:42:05.580 which is one of the reasons they want to do it as well but that's one of the interesting things

00:42:09.640 is that essentially h2a and these government programs because of all the benefits coming to

00:42:14.780 these people basically acts as a form of um of benefit to the uh to the farmers i've forgotten

00:42:23.980 the term all of a sudden do you know the word that i'm looking for i'm afraid not where a

00:42:28.800 where a government gives a business benefits subsidy subsidy yes it's essentially subsidizing

00:42:33.800 agriculture and the farming industry um which is one interesting way to do it because it would

00:42:39.240 seem like the government is very specifically subsidizing an industry in a way that encourages

00:42:44.320 foreigners to come into the country particularly with the potential expansions on h2a to make it

00:42:50.040 so that it's not just temporary workers which you can say there's there is room for but also for

00:42:55.300 dairy farming and such where you are kind of needed year round which makes room for these

00:43:00.640 people to come in live in permanently and then apply for citizenship which will inevitably

00:43:05.080 expand the foreign-born population of the country especially in a um in something like

00:43:10.780 farming and agriculture which um i suspect if america is anything like england right

00:43:15.460 is obviously one when you have the the entirety of the land all the machinery required to actually

00:43:21.560 farm it and everything it is obviously a very very expensive profession to actually run and

00:43:28.740 therefore it's usually people that inherit the role of a farmer from the previous generations

00:43:34.620 of their own family and if all those families have historically speaking being looking after

00:43:39.900 actual heritage americans and making sure they have jobs they have livelihoods they're being

00:43:44.860 protected and then all of a sudden you're bringing in illegals if those illegals are then legalized

00:43:50.460 by some democrat malarkey you know in four years time whatever it might be and so on and so forth

00:43:56.160 these are the sorts of steps that are naturally taken that reconstitute the demography of america

00:44:02.460 and basically take it away from america the american people that her that that created the

00:44:08.740 conditions that her own family most likely would have been able had led to the prosperity in which

00:44:14.360 they've been able to start a farm in the first place but but it's interesting the government

00:44:17.740 creates the conditions where it's very very difficult for farmers and then offers a solution

00:44:23.220 to the farmers through a form of subsidy which just guarantees that there will end up being

00:44:28.300 more and more immigration into the country in one way or another and then they start to say well

00:44:33.160 the immigration is a problem and then when they start to implement the the the ice raids for

00:44:39.280 instance well all of those farmers who then began relying on immigration for their farms are still

00:44:45.460 facing all of the other problems that the government puts in their way with red tape and

00:44:48.820 such and so you then get new york times articles like this one saying undocumented immigrants

00:44:53.680 perform roughly 70 of the labor on the state's dairy farms at the o'harrow farm the republican

00:44:58.240 family owners worry that immigration crackdown will hurt their workers and their business so

00:45:03.560 you implement a problem provide a solution say the solution is a problem and then and then provide a

00:45:10.520 solution to the solution blc yeah and then all of a sudden there are reports saying oh the solution

00:45:17.720 to the solution which turned into a problem is itself now a problem so we need more of the

00:45:22.820 original solution which is inevitably as is the answer all roads lead to rome and rome in this

00:45:28.280 case is mass immigration sounds like quite a problem let me let me just say this is one way

00:45:33.620 labor this is one way in which if you're a young farmer and you enter the farming industry let's

00:45:38.740 say you just want to get a farm and you want to get up and start you want to get it up and running

00:45:45.020 in the beginning you don't make money it's usual for the first two three years for you to not make

00:45:50.000 money so if you are ordered you know in a way to to pay double three times the price for a native

00:45:57.700 worker that you may want to hire it it's virtually impossible for you to start i'm not saying that

00:46:04.840 you should necessarily go for illegal i'm just saying that what i'm saying many many times the

00:46:11.100 idea of a minimum wage law and i get it yes people like protection and people like the idea of safety

00:46:16.400 and in some respects yes it's important but there are negative consequences because if you suddenly

00:46:22.960 say like polonski i'm gonna take a minimum wage to 1600 per month all you're gonna do is you're

00:46:31.180 going to have mass illegal labor well there's because people there's going to be that because

00:46:37.200 people won't be able because yeah because business you know people who employers won't be able to

00:46:43.680 sustain this level of way lansky got in charge and actually implemented any of his

00:46:49.000 any of his like giga brain plans is you just have a complete collapse of the country yes almost

00:46:54.840 almost immediately i would say if there was a full green government that had a majority and

00:46:59.220 was able to implement its plans within a month yeah um you would have mass capital flight from

00:47:04.400 the country and then you would also um just have a complete collapse of the financial system and

00:47:09.680 the only people who'd be surprised about any of it would be the green party themselves maybe i can

00:47:14.080 see why people are starting to vote now actually no i'm trying can you imagine 55 per hour on

00:47:20.280 motorways well i mean we've already got oh god i forgot that was one of the things that they wanted

00:47:25.900 to do uh but this is where i'm talking about with the subsidies the farmers are already getting

00:47:30.780 right you're starting to get massive subsidies through these immigration programs why not just

00:47:35.920 cut out the middleman save all of the tears and the ice raids and the tear and the hand-wringing

00:47:42.660 articles talking about how terrible it is that all of these people are being quote hunted by

00:47:46.640 animal hunted like animals and just cut out the middleman and go to the most obvious solution if

00:47:53.160 the government is going to pump so much money into helping these farms to keep making a profit

00:47:58.480 in the first place just provide the subsidies so that they can automate their systems now there

00:48:06.500 are articles and there would be articles in this situation complaining about all of the foreigners

00:48:10.640 no longer being able to be used as cheap labor on these farms because they say what replaces

00:48:15.920 deported immigrant workers not americans checkmate maggotjuds therefore you need to keep importing 0.85

00:48:21.140 mexicans for all time in all places yes but there are other articles talking here about just the 0.93

00:48:25.580 benefits of doing it and you don't actually have to stop hiring americans the likelihood would be

00:48:31.040 you'd be making more money being more productive which is a good thing because you would have

00:48:35.660 greater well potentially a good thing because you would have greater surpluses equals greater

00:48:39.380 amount of exports that you could sell internationally lowering the price of such

00:48:42.540 etc etc but you could still hire americans they would just be higher skilled americans and given

00:48:48.640 that low-wage industries tend to be destroyed in modern uh in modern economies anyway uh people

00:48:56.280 tend to go for higher wage higher skilled professions at the moment so you would still

00:49:01.140 be able to hire americans because this article talks about before he began using robots mr

00:49:06.260 heminger's farm produced about 800 000 pounds of milk per worker per year today after automating

00:49:13.240 the farm produces 2.5 million pounds of pounds of milk per worker per year which is a ridiculous

00:49:22.680 increase in productivity that's all the milk while still allowing room for workers who would need to

00:49:29.240 work on the farm because of course you would need the technical skills to be able to operate this

00:49:33.000 one of the remarkable things i read about all the speaking of dairy farms which obviously h2a

00:49:37.820 wants to expand into that realm um is that on dairy farms you can now get machines where the

00:49:45.880 cows can literally milk themselves the self-milking cow the self-milking cow is a real thing the cow

00:49:54.180 fills up with milk it goes to the machine because it knows what to do and then it milks itself and

00:50:00.840 then it goes on happy as can be you just need a worker to go and collect the milk you don't need

00:50:05.660 to hire pedro for three cents on the dollar to do it for you and there's far less chance of the

00:50:12.780 self-milking cow to become a crime statistic and uh in the original article i spoke about

00:50:18.280 sorry in the original segment where i spoke about this the white papers policy institute had done

00:50:22.300 the maths on it and i forget the exact figures but essentially to the cost of billions of dollars per

00:50:28.060 year if the american government simply traded out the subsidies for foreign workers for automation

00:50:35.180 and slowly automating all of these farms instead you would find that they would be saving the

00:50:40.200 taxpayer billions of dollars every single year so at the moment the way that the system is set up

00:50:45.200 the way that the system is set up and the incentives that are presented to farmers across

00:50:49.800 the country for their own profit gaining motives it does seem that the incentives are entirely set

00:50:55.320 up to ensure that there is a constant flow of immigration so that people can get cheap labor 0.98

00:50:59.920 essentially a slave class so that's what it is right now and i say in the battle of mexicans

00:51:05.580 versus robots i would be rooting for the robots every single time and i'll read through my rumble

00:51:12.020 rents logan pine in america we don't have a lot of small farmers most were wiped out in the 1930s

00:51:16.900 yes that is a problem fdr's um fdr's social programs farming programs did destroy a lot of

00:51:25.520 the well most of the small farms across the country i think that was um soviet style was

00:51:30.440 it soviet style grain requisitions in the same way that they stole everybody's gold they just

00:51:35.340 stole a load of the they stole all the surplus grain and then like burned it to maintain a

00:51:40.580 higher price instead i was i was unaware of all this that's terrible fdr's economic policies were

00:51:47.300 um less than genius fallen firebird says the urban managerial system created a service-based

00:51:52.660 economy where white collar jobs are prestigious and aspirational then they said oh no wait we 0.72

00:51:56.960 need farmers bring in the browns that's true but also again like for those jobs where the blue 0.85

00:52:02.760 collars were still earning good wages they destroyed the unions in the 1980s so that they

00:52:08.020 weren't earning good wages anymore and then said oh no now nobody wants to be blue collar 0.71

00:52:12.960 bring in the brown it's always bringing the browns ultimately 0.97

00:52:15.980 all right we got the next segment up thanks mate yeah we go okay let's uh see something before we

00:52:26.660 start great okay just the aesthetic of that podcast immediately lets me know this is going

00:52:34.840 to be insufferable isn't it is going to be insufferable that's a promise you see the glee

00:52:40.220 on his face folks he loves doing this to us so when people are telling you that they want to

00:52:46.580 harm you believe them take them at their word um is it just a joke well if it's once or twice

00:52:53.180 they can uh say it was a joke because a they are appealing to plausible deniability but if it is

00:53:00.520 consistent you better start taking them seriously and you better start paying attention to what 0.99

00:53:05.920 they're saying and uh you could say that they are stupid or the r word or something but uh 0.99

00:53:14.480 start taking them seriously and if not what they're saying start identifying them as a threat 0.99

00:53:21.040 and we are going to talk about hassan piker and the new bad things he said the very

00:53:27.640 you couldn't have more to say well he is now talking about his dog on stream is now talking

00:53:34.960 about uh social murder i don't know maybe he wants to draw a distinction between social and

00:53:41.500 anti-social murder maybe there's a pr friendly murder for him according to his perspective

00:53:47.780 this is the louis g man joan murder of yeah yeah what was it united healthcare was that the guy

00:53:53.300 the ceo of that yeah let's just let's just let's just normalize murdering people in the street for

00:53:57.820 no reason we will get there but every time the left is putting the social epithet adjective

00:54:03.640 behind a noun they just mean well i just uh it just means whatever i wanted to mean it's just

00:54:11.880 a way of sugarcoating whatever i find politically expedient and that is the leftist mantra that's

00:54:19.620 what they're doing is social justice and that's now why son piker is talking about social murder

00:54:25.060 but he isn't just talking about social murder let's take one step at a time and see the kind

00:54:31.480 of thing he represents here. The rich don't play by the rules, so why should I? Why petty

00:54:38.360 theft might be the new political protest? And right now there is a very insufferable

00:54:44.260 push on the ranks of the left for legalizing shoplifting. Mamdani now is going to be in

00:54:53.180 a bit of trouble now that he wants to run a grocery store. He can't be openly in favor

00:54:59.200 of shoplifting but there is such a push for shoplifting and for for describing it as petty

00:55:07.600 crime and we also have polanski now who wants to legalize shoplifting here in the uk if he gets

00:55:14.560 elected did he say that yes he wants to legalize he said he wants to legalize shoplifting um then

00:55:23.040 we also have now Hassan Piker and this push by this look at this podcast here so this is a

00:55:31.180 you could say a production that it's not a cheap production and she's also a journalist and two

00:55:38.700 times bestseller author bestselling author and they're talking here about shoplifting as an act

00:55:45.180 of political protest and this is the opinion culture editor Nadja Spiegelman who is calling

00:55:52.180 this microlooting and she sat down to talk with hassan piker your favorite and new york writer

00:56:01.120 gia tolentino and they're talking about social microlooting they're saying that this is um

00:56:09.920 yeah they want to say that this is somehow and then justified but before we get into more into

00:56:17.840 that lunacy. We have a good antidote that it's good for you to check out. I interviewed Stefan

00:56:23.440 Larsson from Denmark and we talked about why Denmark can afford to be more based than the

00:56:30.840 average EU member. So check it out to find out the secret of Denmark. It's very simple, but

00:56:39.900 because it's simple, it can be a sort of a white pill. It can actually show you how to do negotiations

00:56:46.340 with the eu so yeah if you want a white pill and if you want to be a bit optimistic check out this

00:56:53.440 interview that was released yesterday with stefan larsen you can check it out and let us know what

00:57:00.380 you think right so let's go back to the lunacy and hassan piker so he says if you steal from the

00:57:07.040 poor you become rich if you steal from the wealthy you go to prison there's only one direction where

00:57:12.320 you can go do unlimited theft. Wage theft is the most consequential amount of theft that takes

00:57:18.020 place in the United States of America. And he's pushing the Chomsky wage slavery gap where almost

00:57:24.940 every employer is supposed to be a demon trying to drink the blood of the workers because wealth

00:57:31.720 isn't produced in his mind. Wealth just grows in trees and it has to be redistributed afterwards.

00:57:37.620 and the redistribution occurs only not in terms of merit but in terms of who are hassan paika's

00:57:44.980 political friends right and i want to focus on several things here but notice on the following

00:57:51.580 he says well the rich are stealing so why shouldn't i steal and he's presenting it as a dilemma

00:57:58.280 where in fact it isn't a dilemma because the way i see it you could say well i want i want

00:58:06.400 to be fair. I want to be a good member of society who isn't going to contribute to lawlessness and

00:58:14.060 anarchy and disintegration. I am going to be the good example. I'm going to be the change I want

00:58:19.580 to see in the world. And all of my energy is going to focus on me being law-abiding and a good

00:58:25.680 citizen and someone who is resisting cultural decline and to try to rectify whatever theft I

00:58:35.860 see if it's the rich then in the rich class so instead of doing this he says well they're doing

00:58:44.060 it so i'm gonna accelerate and i'm gonna become part of the problem because why not because it's

00:58:50.060 not actually about morality it's just about resource grab you know it's just you have this

00:58:55.700 thing i can take this thing and i absolutely agree with you when you say because there are just so

00:58:59.880 many examples of um immoral behavior you know particularly in britain we don't go around and

00:59:05.500 say right because there's been this story in the news where this person has done this terrible

00:59:09.500 thing it becomes permissible for me to descend into that thing the point is that you're trying

00:59:15.480 to represent something more admirable right yeah what would epstein do isn't exactly the best

00:59:21.560 criterion for your moral conscience well that's the thing isn't it one of the great ironies with

00:59:26.900 this is everybody on this podcast is presumably ultra rich hassan paika himself is he lives in

00:59:34.120 like a two million dollar house and you can see even those clothes there i think i saw somebody

00:59:38.600 uh yeah yeah 2.7 million dollar house i saw somebody uh calculate found the glasses that 0.99

00:59:45.540 he was wearing the sunglasses and they were like they were like thousands of dollars he's an idiot 0.68

00:59:50.800 because he does all of this and yet he can't he he doesn't have the humility not to just broadcast 1.00

00:59:58.000 how wealthy he is and then when you actually bring it up he starts screaming crying saying

01:00:02.660 like what do you want i should actually die or something but the thing is like you can criticize

01:00:07.120 uh the rich and you can criticize the system that we live under god knows that we know that plenty 0.67

01:00:12.040 of rich people um across the west are all incredibly corrupt and break all of the rules

01:00:16.780 but you are right that there is that doesn't mean that you can then just break down society and turn

01:00:24.100 it into a grand anarchy because you're not actually fixing fixing anything you're just

01:00:28.340 breaking things he's not advocating it's kind of like an organized mass resistance that will fix

01:00:33.660 anything for anybody he's saying i want to live it up in a life of luxury while everybody else

01:00:39.020 around me just descends into anarchy and similarly when he says um like um we need to do x and y to

01:00:45.480 the rich well if what if you try and do that to you well it's not exactly poor it's different it's

01:00:50.640 different with him and then the final thing is just the inherent contradiction in saying that

01:00:55.060 this broad rule where he says if you steal from the poor you become rich so do i have to then

01:01:00.420 assume that he and all of the people he sat on the podcast with because they're all rich have

01:01:04.960 done it inherently by stealing from the poor i would argue with hassan there's actually a much

01:01:08.760 better argument for that given that he relies mainly on twitch donations and you can be

01:01:13.680 guaranteed that most of those people sending donations to him that gives him the money

01:01:17.400 to live this lifestyle are a lot poorer than him so where is his redistribution

01:01:22.800 to all of his supporters and fans

01:01:26.580 who presumably have a much harder life than he does.

01:01:29.640 And who he respects so much.

01:01:30.960 I think this would be his message.

01:01:32.560 Yeah.

01:01:33.700 Let him steal a cake.

01:01:35.360 Right.

01:01:35.840 The Santoinette.

01:01:38.800 Yes.

01:01:39.760 Let's look at the...

01:01:41.980 Well, there's the other bit here.

01:01:44.820 There was another link here, Samson.

01:01:48.900 There's another article.

01:01:49.800 i can't believe there's a paywall for the daily mail yeah that's mental anyway let's move forward

01:02:00.340 but uh there was this article here and it talked about the other woman on the podcast

01:02:06.280 gia tolentino and she was she was this is the article isn't it where she's talking about

01:02:11.360 uh i had another one where it's it's not this uh samson if you could click please on the

01:02:19.680 this one yeah uh he's just catching it now

01:02:24.280 yes mate oh there you go yes thanks so um the new york contribute the new yorker contributor

01:02:34.260 gia tolentino 37 claimed stealing food from whole foods market is not very significant because the

01:02:40.260 supermarket which is owned by amazon billionaire can afford the losses and mistreat its workers

01:02:46.020 She admitted to pilfering small-value items, including lemons, to the New York Times during a sit-down with millionaire communist Hassan Piker and culture editor Nadia Spiegelman in a conversation about the rise of microlooting from shops.

01:03:00.360 Tolentino, who has worked at Vogue publisher Conde Nast since 2016, said there were a number of items and products she would not feel guilty about.

01:03:14.320 stealing also including sharing her netflix password and pirating music from others spotify

01:03:20.000 accounts but what is interesting here is that she added that she would cheer on anyone stealing

01:03:26.080 priceless art from the louvre and said her philosophy on theft was based on who the victim

01:03:31.840 was if you are an enemy i want people to steal from you if you're not i don't want to so there

01:03:39.040 is actually no principle the strange thing about that as well about just stealing art from the

01:03:43.200 louvre is actually by nature of it being a museum that the art in the louvre is more of a communal

01:03:49.060 experience able to be shared by everyone so long as you're in paris as opposed to someone just

01:03:54.360 taking it nicking it and being like this is mine now and no one else's and then as well whoever is

01:04:00.380 would be willing to do such a terrible thing i don't exactly trust them to look after it either

01:04:05.120 i mean this is just this is just a poor rationalization of low iq third world behavior 1.00

01:04:11.320 trying to throw like with some ideological trappings around it so that morons like hassan 0.94

01:04:17.200 piker will defend it hassan piker who tell me if i'm wrong but didn't he visit some like um cuba 0.98

01:04:23.920 like was it no no no not not cuba trying to remember was it some like hungarian or um czech

01:04:30.660 or bulgarian brothel that then a few weeks after he visited it was raided because it had underage

01:04:37.880 girls in it well i didn't hear about i'm sure i'm sure i remember reading about that right so

01:04:43.880 we know that there is zero principle there when it comes to to theft and they are very much happy

01:04:50.360 with people stealing from wherever they identify their enemies but there is much worse than this

01:04:58.720 and there is much worse than petty theft that they are advocating for and in this case i would say

01:05:04.860 that i've had enough with the left making constant excuses about murderers and i don't care if they

01:05:14.020 put the social adjective in front of murder or in front of justice or in front of anything

01:05:20.200 murderers are murderers and whether you think someone or a ceo of a particular company or

01:05:27.800 something took a decision that wasn't favorable to you, it doesn't mean that you're justified 0.98

01:05:35.440 going out and killing them. Let's look at here what he's talking about. And I want you to look 0.83

01:05:40.720 at the casual manner in which he's talking about murder. And we know that the left is making

01:05:48.120 constant excuses about criminals, and particularly when it comes to crime of classes that they

01:05:55.600 considered to be oppressed and we know this especially from the irina zarutska murder by

01:06:03.160 the garlus brown jr the left hates people who mention it they didn't like the fact that even

01:06:11.620 the msm wasn't talking about it because it didn't want to disrupt this myth of the good oppressed

01:06:17.680 people who never oppress anyone and never commit any crime and in the case of last year where we

01:06:23.860 had the terrible assassination of charlie kirk as well they weren't it wasn't beneath them to

01:06:29.380 just purposely like jimmy kimmel did actively so in their own words misinformation basically

01:06:35.280 blaming kirk's murder on the right yeah to get out of culpability not just sowing disinformation

01:06:41.080 in the first hours which you know it was just a propaganda trick um you know anger control it was

01:06:49.220 also the sheer level of happiness that lots of them displayed on camera yes and that was very

01:06:57.140 widespread and it wasn't even two or three influencers who wanted to be edgy or something

01:07:02.460 it was widespread and this level of happiness with the assassination i don't think exists

01:07:11.280 in any sort of crime that has been committed from the other side i haven't seen i i if something

01:07:17.960 from the right takes place, a crime of such a nature. I don't see right-wingers going out and

01:07:25.240 being ultra happy. In fact, they want to marginalize people who are saying that they are happy about it

01:07:32.040 and they are trying to make it into something that they shouldn't make it. Let's look at what

01:07:39.500 he says here. Engels wrote about the concept of social murder. And Brian Thompson, as the United

01:07:49.120 Healthcare CEO, was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder, the systematized forms

01:07:56.740 of violence. Right. So this is just absolute nonsense. And this is just like the notion of

01:08:03.900 wage slavery it's absolute nonsense and what they're doing is they're intentionally radicalizing

01:08:10.200 people in order to get them to think that they are in a constant mode of existential threat

01:08:16.480 the very structure of society the very fact that people don't agree with them or their

01:08:23.480 self-conception constitutes an existential threat to them and by implication if they commit

01:08:30.460 violent crimes hassan piker hassan piker's philosophy implies that they were justified

01:08:37.880 in using violence against whoever did whatever they didn't like because it was an existential

01:08:45.820 threat against them this is this disgusting philosophy that is radical and extremist and

01:08:52.460 should be treated as such and there is no you can't you can't make any excuses about it they

01:08:59.440 Don't care how much you're going to cite Hegel, how much you're going to cite Marx, how much you're going to cite Engels.

01:09:05.420 This is extremism, radicalism, and should be treated as such.

01:09:10.280 This shouldn't be allowed in society.

01:09:14.520 The New York Times disagrees, apparently.

01:09:16.780 But apparently this is a much larger problem, and people are saying, well, this isn't radical.

01:09:23.920 This just isn't radical.

01:09:25.600 I understand, he says, Hassan Piker, when he says he understands Luigi Mangione for killing United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, father of two.

01:09:38.160 Well, that's very disconcerting.

01:09:42.640 And it shows how it's virtually, it's very difficult to coexist with people who are saying this.

01:09:51.900 and i really hope that there can a way can be found but and i really hope that this is much

01:09:59.220 more hot air than they're saying is maybe maybe it's a grifter or something plant or not maybe

01:10:05.340 he is a grifter and a and a plant or something but i think that this if things go down this road

01:10:12.820 it's not going to end well i don't want them to go down this road

01:10:15.960 right and and i think we need to bear in mind the general some of the general claims that

01:10:26.720 hassan piker has made and how he's constantly get away with with them and how people from the

01:10:32.860 other side wouldn't get away with them and i'm i'm gonna be very honest i wouldn't want them to

01:10:37.980 get away with it no i don't want them to i don't care to say just because the left doesn't have

01:10:43.380 standards, the right shouldn't have standards either. No, I think standards are important

01:10:47.680 and conservatives should uphold standards. And there have been some arguments regarding gatekeeping

01:10:54.120 or don't gatekeep or something. There's no such thing as no gatekeeping. Everyone is gatekeeping.

01:11:00.440 Everyone is holding others accountable to standards. So the very fact that the left

01:11:05.840 doesn't have standards doesn't mean that people who aren't on the left shouldn't have standards.

01:11:11.320 So let's see some of his comments in order to detect that this is a pattern.

01:11:17.820 This isn't an isolated incident, just like we're listening all the time

01:11:22.260 when crimes by, within quotation marks, oppressed groups are being committed.

01:11:27.840 Isolated incident due to mental illness.

01:11:30.100 No, there's a pattern.

01:11:31.560 And let's look at some of his comments in order to remember them,

01:11:35.540 because let's face it, many people don't have exactly perfect memory. 0.99

01:11:38.860 He says here, kill the mofos, let the streak soak in their red capitalist blood. 0.97

01:11:45.400 Democrats are campaigning with him, as Unwokeness says here. 0.99

01:11:49.360 He says here, America deserved 9-11, and the Democrats are associating with him.

01:11:58.580 Mamdani in New York is associating with Hassan Piker, and not just Mamdani.

01:12:03.800 they are associating with a person who says america deserved 9-11 also as well when you

01:12:09.960 when you abstract it out like that it's like no which which people in the two in the twin towers

01:12:14.860 that day deserve to die hasan like whose life in that tower who lost it that day on 9-11 actually

01:12:20.800 deserved to have their life ended and obviously the answer is no one absolutely no one um and he 0.90

01:12:26.820 says here i don't he doesn't have any patriotism in his heart for america this was in a trip in

01:12:32.720 china and obviously not he's turkish yes uh also is he the nephew of chenk wager yes yeah all right

01:12:42.000 also democrat representative roe khanah here doubles down on support of hassan piker who said

01:12:47.840 that america deserved 9-11 so it's they are associating with someone who hasn't made an edgy

01:12:55.840 joke here or there is consistent with what he is saying and uh yeah communists are a major threat

01:13:03.840 to the west and they have been and the very fact that they lost the cold war with the fall of the

01:13:10.480 ussr that hassan piker is lamenting here um quite in the open doesn't mean that they stopped wanting

01:13:19.040 to subvert Western society and European society.

01:13:23.520 They are trying to work in a more Fabian, incrementalist way.

01:13:28.860 They are trying to enact the long march through the institutions, and they have enacted it.

01:13:34.280 It's more than just an effort.

01:13:36.560 They have actually succeeded to a very large extent.

01:13:39.280 So people need to start waking up to the extent of communist infiltration within Western institutions.

01:13:48.460 And here he's saying the fall of the USSR was one of the greatest catastrophes of the 20th century.

01:13:54.040 Now, I will say this, it is definitely the case that the fall of the USSR was followed by a very brutal decade for the Russians.

01:14:05.560 And this is something to feel bad about.

01:14:09.460 But let's separate those two events.

01:14:12.780 Hassan Piker isn't that much interested in the latter.

01:14:16.640 is interested in the former because this is what explains his rhetoric consistently right

01:14:25.300 one thing i find interesting right is that he he is permitted to continue saying all of this at all

01:14:33.360 and gets the enormous platform on the new york times in the first place and in the same way that

01:14:39.240 the right wing has containment i see hassan piker as a form of left wing containment as well one 0.99

01:14:48.500 because he's so stupid and nuts that he can dissipate a lot of energy because the right can 1.00

01:14:54.500 look at somebody like hassan piker and say all of my enemies are morons with no point at all 1.00

01:15:00.300 when in fact hassan piker some of the criticisms that he is parroting might be legitimate but his 0.95

01:15:06.360 solutions to those criticisms are always so beyond the pale that it discredits the criticism

01:15:12.780 in the first place right secondly ultimately his solution is always still within the american

01:15:19.780 two-party system his solution is always still vote democrat therefore vote democrat therefore

01:15:25.780 vote democrat america's falling to fascism we need a revolution vote democrat this is something that

01:15:31.560 dave smith criticized him for back in the day when he said to him like listen mate ultimately

01:15:35.660 you're just a bog standard democrat and what he allows to allows to happen is anybody who would

01:15:42.240 be considered a dissident leftist for instance somebody who is maybe not an insane lunatic

01:15:48.580 but somebody who is intelligent who falls that way ideologically they can get caught up in his

01:15:55.460 rhetoric yeah we need to bring down the capitalists we need to soak in their red capitalist blood

01:16:00.140 i'm gonna vote democrat right hassan piker said so and i do think that there is a reason he is

01:16:07.400 allowed to exist within this system whereas somebody who was an actual revolutionary who

01:16:13.840 actually took his ideas way too far but acted on them in a way that he saw as rational as a rational

01:16:21.940 reaction to his ideas somebody like ted kaczynski yeah i was just thinking actually gets arrested

01:16:26.720 and imprisoned and he had to hold america hostage to get his word out whereas previously they never

01:16:32.600 would have he wouldn't have got the same kind of broadcasting and new york times articles

01:16:37.960 that hassan piker does if he hadn't held people hostage essentially and that is not to defend

01:16:43.720 anything that ted kaczynski did innocent people were hurt innocent people died because of him

01:16:49.060 but there is a clear distinction between that kind of radical and a faux millionaire radical

01:16:56.300 like hassan piker for as much as hassan piker does do real world harm he's allowed to so i have

01:17:03.520 several things to add here first of all i agree with you completely that he um there's something

01:17:09.240 really fishy about him that goes without saying yeah and i really think that in a way the average

01:17:17.280 communist who isn't uh rich will look at hassan piker and say well that's not exactly who i had 0.75

01:17:25.720 in mind as representing me yeah i do think this like somebody who is literally as bougie as you

01:17:31.640 can possibly be yes now though there is the other bit that that necessarily wouldn't help with the

01:17:40.800 orthodox view of marxism where you know they have the very worker oriented mentality and the

01:17:46.860 proletariat structure there around labor unions that are going to be led by vanguard party but

01:17:52.700 when it comes to neo-marxism and the targeting of different groups as being the main engine for the

01:17:58.760 revolution it could be the case that people would would be more happy to see him and as their guy

01:18:06.600 now when it comes to the two-party system that doesn't necessarily seem to me to be less

01:18:13.360 radical of him because it could definitely be the case it's very possible and i think it's probable

01:18:21.320 that he's thinking not in terms of hey let's just have this centrist thing going on and occasionally

01:18:30.500 let me just express left-wing radicalism better than others in order to contain and sort of to

01:18:37.260 contain and control it but they're if we see what they're doing they could say right let's get the

01:18:44.600 the set the democrat party and let's infiltrate it from within i think that this is what they

01:18:50.540 have been doing and they are being more emboldened and and look at this same way that the young

01:18:56.920 zoomers yeah because you could say that in the last after after obama the democrats completely 0.86

01:19:03.240 lost the the the sensibles they they became completely consumed by the radicals and there

01:19:11.600 is sort of a radical progress there i mean they wouldn't go out to even try and say that the

01:19:17.560 mega kill charlie kirk just to sow division so i think that he could be no organic action yeah

01:19:25.140 i'm not saying these people aren't crazy the funny thing is though like neo-marxism

01:19:29.500 marxism in the first place uh there's an argument to be made that that was essentially created by

01:19:34.460 the cia in the first place with the oss and the frankfurt school being brought in by the american

01:19:39.520 government and then helping to be funded by the american government of course even if that's the

01:19:44.540 case you could say that and that's a very interesting topic of discussion i'm sure

01:19:49.420 we could have it another time because we're short for time but uh even if that was created this way

01:19:55.480 it could have a life of its own oh no that's what i'm that's what i'm saying i'm not saying that it

01:19:59.540 doesn't go go out to have a life of its own but it's funny that all of these kind of like hassan

01:20:04.640 piker-esque radicals cite chomsky when of course we all found out earlier on this year that chomsky

01:20:10.740 himself was a big friend of jeffrey epstein and was in fact working side by side with steve bannon

01:20:16.580 of all people again chomsky is another example of a guy who does have some interesting insights in

01:20:22.780 books like manufacturing consent but ultimately has been a regime approved radical for a very

01:20:28.940 very long time even if he has gone uh over the line quite a lot he's still been allowed to exist

01:20:35.420 in the public space so that he could purely so he could occupy that public space in lieu of somebody

01:20:42.200 else who might actually um organize and do something more useful for their course yeah i

01:20:48.240 I want to ask you the last bit about containment, because to my mind, he's basically not containing.

01:20:53.380 He is accelerating the extremism and radicalism, because you could say that containment could be someone who would try to create a sort of restraint.

01:21:04.280 He's trying to, you know, he's trying to sort of contain the radical, the extreme radicalism that is consuming the Democrat Party at the moment.

01:21:14.580 Because I can definitely think that someone like Gavin Newsom would have at least a three-digit, you know, at least 100 IQ and say, well, I don't want them to come and backstab me.

01:21:32.120 Oh, no, no. The thing is with containment is it's not necessarily about, like, stopping people from having extreme ideas and thoughts.

01:21:42.760 it's about channeling that back to the same solution ultimately the containment is not that 0.97

01:21:48.980 hassan is not an extremist moron clearly he is is that ultimately he is a fraud because he's he's 0.97

01:21:56.640 just as much of a bourgeois as anybody else he's rich and his solution is ultimately vote democrat 0.99

01:22:02.740 now the democrats have clearly identical to bernie sanders yeah progressively been getting

01:22:07.920 more and more crazy yeah but it's the fact that it's within the two-party system that can still

01:22:12.700 under the security apparatus of the american government and the deep state

01:22:16.480 be hemmed in like they did with bernie sanders yeah could be but the where i am a bit

01:22:23.420 more skeptical here is that the fact that he's bourgeois doesn't necessarily mean that he's not

01:22:29.960 dangerous because lots of people who led communist revolutions and i'm not saying he's going to do

01:22:34.640 this i don't think he will but i think he is contributing to this but people who did this

01:22:39.480 we're bourgeois in a way well it's it's it's not out of the possibility his things these things

01:22:43.880 have always gone out of control i mean just look at the case of germany supporting lenin during the

01:22:47.680 first world war they were the ones who got him that train ride into russia when the revolution

01:22:52.200 happened so that he could ultimately take over they put him in as an agent so that he would be 0.89

01:22:56.820 able to pull russia out of the war so that the germans could free up their east flank right 0.81

01:23:01.060 that's of them 20 years yeah and then 20 years later like russia is their biggest threat that 0.54

01:23:06.640 they are that they're worried about and they end up doing a preemptive invasion yeah of so so

01:23:11.480 there's like these things can run really out of control but i would say there is a massive gulf

01:23:16.840 of intellectual difference between a lenin and a hassan piker yeah any last thoughts for the in

01:23:23.920 this no just even our enemies are in a decline so the last bit i'm gonna say for the end of the

01:23:31.500 segment is that this is pretty clearly incitement to violence and not just incitement to violence

01:23:38.960 it's the creation of a framework where violence is almost always justified if it is done in the

01:23:46.720 name of of leftist causes and this is something that shouldn't be allowed this is yeah it's just

01:23:54.080 straightforwardly incitement of violence i don't think this is this should be allowed right

01:23:59.780 um got two ones here from the top two one yeah logan 17 pint says or he could just be a communist 1.00

01:24:07.820 and an idiot unfortunately sometimes it is a simple answer i agree he is a communist and an 1.00

01:24:13.760 idiot the thing is why the the question becomes why is he allowed to spread violent extremist 1.00

01:24:21.780 rhetoric that gets people killed he's a communist and an idiot that people in such as places as the 1.00

01:24:27.220 york times have a purpose for right and they're trying to use them as a tool for their own ends 1.00

01:24:32.180 yeah and roughneck mp 173 agrees with joseph mccarthy about communists and he does it for

01:24:41.700 ten dollars so thank you very much very much yeah let's go to the video comments

01:24:51.060 hey lucy so still at hopton castle if you didn't know the hopton castle preservation trust is

01:24:56.260 working with the Pendragon Foundation. This is the first castle that Pendragon's working with,

01:25:01.140 so hopefully together we'll help to preserve the castle. I currently volunteer for them as well.

01:25:06.580 There's also the magazine as well. I think there's a few copies still available,

01:25:10.020 so you can get them if you want. I hope this is the first step of many in the future to help

01:25:14.500 preserve castles like this. I happen to have a issue of the magazine on my desk, Zesty,

01:25:20.820 and yes, I'm very familiar with Nathan's work. I did a segment some months ago when they first

01:25:25.860 started promoting the Pendragon Foundation

01:25:28.160 and, yeah, I'm very eager to

01:25:30.000 support them in the future, because you're right, they are doing

01:25:31.820 very valuable work.

01:25:34.040 Alright, that was the only video comment, was it,

01:25:36.000 Samson? Looks like we've got the

01:25:37.720 website comments. Alright,

01:25:40.160 so, Zester King, again, says

01:25:42.140 at university, I was sharing

01:25:43.940 facilities with a

01:25:45.820 roadman, I assume.

01:25:47.860 Yeah, from East London.

01:25:50.080 A road map. Yeah, I'm so

01:25:51.920 sorry, Zester. Yeah.

01:25:53.520 He tried multiple times to get me to swap rooms

01:25:56.040 so a friend of his could join him.

01:25:58.120 He offered me Gucci bags, money, and even women.

01:26:01.780 I said no.

01:26:03.140 A few weeks later, he destroyed all my crockery.

01:26:06.140 Gucci bags? What?

01:26:07.640 Yeah.

01:26:08.800 Presumably off the back of a lorry somewhere.

01:26:10.960 Right. I mean, that's terrible, Zestium. 1.00

01:26:13.560 Sorry about to endure that.

01:26:14.900 Yeah, that was another thing as well.

01:26:16.380 When I was living in Lincoln, they also stole my cutlery as well

01:26:20.680 and just took things from my drawers.

01:26:22.200 Look what they took from us.

01:26:24.720 My knife and fork is what they took from me.

01:26:27.780 I thought it was bad enough in normal uni housing. 1.00

01:26:31.240 I'm so glad I never had to live with any foreigners for it. 1.00

01:26:35.120 Alexander Roberts says,

01:26:36.400 In Seattle, Washington, there is an all-Japanese apartment complex

01:26:40.040 on top of a Japanese shopping centre, grocery store and food court.

01:26:44.540 A civil rights lawyer could destroy the place.

01:26:47.720 They won't, though.

01:26:48.660 No, they won't, will they?

01:26:49.960 And Mermudan, and as much as I obviously do love the Japanese, again, that's not acceptable in America.

01:26:57.880 Mermudan 2010 says, for housing, if the courts and government don't stamp this out, will other groups also start offering racial ethnic only access? 0.54

01:27:07.900 And will they be able to fight the courts to maintain it because they have precedent when this, what's never stopped?

01:27:15.880 well we know that some demographics will be able to get away with it and others won't and obviously

01:27:22.260 you know which is which uh here for my segment we have white rider who has looked this up saying i

01:27:29.040 looked this up last night she the farmer i was showing the video of is trying to pay eight

01:27:34.440 dollars an hour under the market rate for live-in hard labor so she is essentially looking for 1.00

01:27:41.120 slave labor in that case that that's the thing is that when she's like oh i've got two hundred 0.99

01:27:45.580 thousand dollars spare to build housing for these people it's like so you've got money to pay them

01:27:50.600 then so you just not off you just don't want to pay them a decent wage annie moss says americans

01:27:55.680 do not want to be exploited my uncle is a farmer in rural indiana who has livestock and crops the

01:28:00.440 nearest town is 15 miles away and has 50 1 500 people he's always hired local americans from the

01:28:06.720 area he doesn't have problems getting them to work he also pays well as he knows it is hard work

01:28:11.680 there are no labor unions involved and my uncle pays the appropriate taxes there you go it should

01:28:17.020 be as simple as that yeah but your uncle's a good man a lot of people want to avoid that and then 1.00

01:28:22.920 they go oh sorry guess i've got to flood the country with mexicans instead uh diogenes nuts 0.99

01:28:29.840 says dairy farms are largely automated now you can look up videos of these milking machines using 0.99

01:28:35.240 laser-guided systems and automatic

01:28:37.280 cleaning methods to milk cows

01:28:39.280 who learn to walk into the milking pen to get

01:28:41.420 their daily feed. If you're trying to

01:28:43.280 compete with automation, you're deliberately underpaying

01:28:45.740 your labour force by definition

01:28:47.400 of economics of automation lowering

01:28:49.340 costs. Governments should provide

01:28:51.400 subsidies for their farms to upgrade 0.99

01:28:53.600 their systems rather than import the kind of people 1.00

01:28:55.380 who can be paid third world wages in first

01:28:57.440 world countries. Yeah, that's great.

01:28:59.320 I love that the cows can just milk 0.55

01:29:01.540 themselves now. Yeah, in my head

01:29:03.360 i just feel is this going to be you know comparable to um the american civil war and

01:29:09.240 the fact that eventually the industrialized north was just able to outcompete the south

01:29:13.780 in the same way that eventually just modern technology and all of these solutions are going

01:29:18.800 to think with the subsidies isn't it we're going to subsidize your ability to get cheap labor in

01:29:22.860 so that we can keep you open okay well then just subsidize them to automate and industrialize a

01:29:28.680 and improve that i'll also read some comments from mine due to considerations about time california 0.51

01:29:34.640 refugees heading down to put up a bunch of poor black people to live in hassan's mansion he'll

01:29:40.180 also save his dog while he's there oh please do good man jimbo g says at least hassan just straight 0.99

01:29:46.800 up says you deserve to be killed if you oppose him whereas zach hides it behind more creative

01:29:52.100 language in their utopia we would all be wearing shock colors to correct wrong thing and maria 0.97

01:29:58.580 manzi says the issue with containment as a political strategy is that it will always slip

01:30:03.500 from control that is a that is a problem as well for people doing containment right so

01:30:11.100 three o'clock gold here zoom those of you who are gold here members check it out those of you

01:30:19.120 who aren't consider upgrading to gold tier to be on this lovely call and enjoy this time brother

01:30:27.240 harry and brother luca in um in a more intimate i'm joking what what it is what are you saying

01:30:35.120 i'm not meaning it in a sexual way what are you sending up for i'm joking i just didn't want to

01:30:43.440 create pictures in people's minds

01:30:45.800 right okay so

01:30:46.960 thank you very much

01:30:48.360 I really enjoyed it I hope you did as well

01:30:51.380 and see you at 3pm

01:30:53.520 and those of you who want 1.00

01:30:55.380 no you won't see him you bastard 1.00

01:30:57.300 in pish laugh 1.00

01:31:02.120 and also those of you who want

01:31:05.580 to come to the Gold Year

01:31:07.540 Zoom we hope to

01:31:09.580 see you next Monday at 1pm

01:31:11.660 thank you very much

01:31:12.720 You could eat.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 24, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1404

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