The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1405
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Summary
The Lotus Eaters discuss the latest assassination attempt on President Trump, and how evil just seems to stalk our land unchecked. And then, we discuss Rupert Lowe finally breaking the ban and having his first GB News appearance.
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters, episode 1,405 for Monday, the 27th of
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April, 2025. I'm your host, Luca, joined today by Carl and Firas. And today we're going to be
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talking all about the latest, another, what is this, the third official assassination attempt?
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The third one we know about, or the fourth, actually?
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Right, so they're stacking up now, so we're going to be discussing the latest assassination
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attempt on Trump. We're then going to be talking about how evil just seems to stalk our land
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unchecked. Yeah, I mean, it's just, how would you deny it at this point? Absolutely, you can't.
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You'd have to be a Green voter. Yeah, or a traitor. Or, yeah. What's the, repeat yourself?
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Yes. And then we're going to be talking about Rupert Lowe finally breaking the ban and having
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his first GB News appearance. Before we discuss those things, though, I just want to remind you,
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The third and final part of mine and Stelios' long, detailed discussion all about Apollonius' of Rhodes Argonautica is now on the channel, ready for you to take a look at.
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Stelios and I had a great discussion about this, talking all about the supernatural powers of Medea, the giant bronze statue of Talos on Crete,
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and the absolute despair that the Argonauts fall into when they reach the shores of Libya,
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which seems to just be something that people have felt for over 2,000 years at this point.
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So that's something to definitely check out if you're interested in the classics.
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And also, of course, it is Monday, which means you have Realpolitik this afternoon.
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Yes. So I'm talking about the Israel-UAE-Morocco-Indonesia relationship intended to sort
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of build up a shipping alliance to control global waterways, and whether or not it is what it seems
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or it's actually less than advertised. Okay, wonderful. So if you're interested in that,
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then you can join Firas Live on the website at three o'clock. With that all said,
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shall we get into today's news? Yes. So there's been another assassination attempt against
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President Trump. And you see that there's a, some kind of magician here. I'm told that he's
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an Israeli magician trying to entertain Trump and Melania. And then at some point, gunshots
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heard. And the Secret Service shows up to evacuate Vance and Trump and Robert Kennedy was there and
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a bunch of others. It was a bit of a scary moment, one can say. And it seems that the suspect
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tried to break through the security corridor. Yeah, he really sprinted for it, didn't he?
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Yeah. Ran towards the ballroom. Then shots were fired. One of the Secret Service agents was hurt.
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It's not clear yet if the suspect himself was hurt, but he breaks through the security corridor
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here, according to the Washington Post, is caught before he gets to the stairs. If he'd crossed the
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stairs and got in to the actual entrance of the ballroom, Trump would have been right across from
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him and a bit of an ambitious attempt though isn't it yes think about a hail mary very yeah
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very much so very much so uh the suspect we're going to talk about him a little bit more he had
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checked into the hotel as a guest one or two days before and then executed his plan he had a bunch
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of knives uh one or two handguns and a shotgun so a hunting rifle rather than a combat rifle
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essentially yeah um and uh the journalists were most affected this was the white house
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correspondence dinner um a classic thing where they roast the president and make fun of him
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actually it's see there is a theory that trump decided to run for president because obama had
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I'm not even sure why Obama was picking on him in the first place.
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And little did he know that there would be consequences.
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Probably one of the worst calculations in political history.
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Yes. So the facts are at around 8.35 shots were fired. Trump gets rushed out. The suspect runs
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through with his weapons and his name is Cole Thomas Allen from California. He had traveled
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by train from California to DC because they don't check your baggage on train. And so that was the
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easiest way to have weapons on him. Yeah, he had to travel first to Chicago and then from Chicago
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to D.C. all by train. So he wrote a manifesto, which we will get to in a little while.
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But I just wanted to point out that right after the shooting happened, all of the journalists
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who were there or a bunch of the journalists who were there um there's no point talking over the
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things you can't yeah sure it's um tragically we've covered shootings we've covered all sorts
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so they basically got busy taking the bottles of wine and champagne yeah i'm actually not
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going to resent them over that like no point wasting something yeah fair enough fair enough
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there were questions raised needed after that evening well apparently the dinner was supposed
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to be um chateaubriand and lobster and so there were supposed to be 2600 guests so there's a big
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pile of steak and lobster that's sort of waiting for somebody to consume it but the journalist
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made sure that the alcohol at least was not wasted yeah um cash patel didn't exactly cover
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I don't know about California State, but he's a well-educated guy.
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He worked as a teaching assistant, worked in education, video game development, etc.
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And you sort of see this pattern that Poso is pointing out,
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that these shooters actually are pretty intelligent.
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have propagandized for a decade now against Donald Trump, MAGA, America First, the right
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wing in general, and have decided, yet, no, it's actually unjustified for me to not try
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I mean, G.Manyone, as he points out at the bottom, same thing.
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It's a person who's completely ensconced in the system, is a product of the system,
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and is now essentially those kind of radical terrorists that this system is producing.
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And those institutions support, as we covered in Stelios' segment at the end of last week, when you've got people like Hassan Piker just getting puff pieces from the New York Times, talking about the advantages of social murder.
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Yeah, and Hassan constantly arguing for this to happen.
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Yes. Yes. And you see this thread throughout because this guy had all of the correct opinions.
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Now, in the manifesto, this is a picture of the suspect having been caught.
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And it's not clear if he shot the security service, the secret service guys, or they were shot accidentally as they opened fire, essentially.
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And he kicks off with an apology to all of his parents and his loved ones and so on.
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I find the total lack of forgiveness and lack of expectations of forgiveness important in understanding these people's worldview.
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I think it's important to remember that he just doesn't think
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Yes, but if you don't think that, you do expect forgiveness.
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Because you would expect to be seen as some kind of hero
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Yeah, I don't think that he thinks any of the people that he knows
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And actually, the real moral flaw that he's exhibited here
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like his you know his colleagues and things like that so that's exactly right i don't i don't think
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he he thinks anything like we would think right you already see some people posting about too bad
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he missed again yeah of course yeah um but he says that as a citizen it's essentially his
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responsibility um and he is no longer to permit a pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands
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So basically the traitor referring to the Russia idea
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and so on and so forth and the false conviction
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for rape for, so it wasn't a conviction for rape.
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who accused him of rape, if I remember correctly.
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administration officials, but excluding Kash Patel.
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maybe because patel is brown and therefore is not on the approved targets list but literally not
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including mr patel why why not he's literally the director of the fbi like he signs off on
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literally everything trump does as a trump loyalist why would you exclude him i mean you see
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down there that he says that one of the objections is that it's not his role as a
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black man to do this, or as a half-white, half-black person, he shouldn't be doing this.
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And his answer is nobody else is doing it. So in his mind, being half-black means that it's
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not his responsibility to act, or at least that's how I'm interpreting it. He says that he's a
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Sorry. So is the implication there that the honor of the kill should go to someone who is actually a full minority?
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I think that's actually either either that or to someone who is white because it's their responsibility to fix everything.
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Right. But in either case, he's I think I think it's legal terms.
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Yeah. So either as a half white person, he shouldn't have this privilege.
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or actually it's the whites problems to fix this one or the other and i can't tell which one
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whichever it is it's mental exactly whichever it is exactly i just love that he's actually like as
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if he's writing a thesis right okay well i'm gonna write out what my stated goal is and then i'm
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gonna address any objections yes through my rebuttals it's like dude you're an insane assassin
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you don't need to actually argue your case yes um and then he says that as a christian how could
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you do this and he explains that you know turning the other cheek doesn't apply here
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oh yeah it's just a bit up just uh yeah just objection one there objection one yeah sorry
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uh there it is uh it's when you yourself as oppressed so does that mean that he isn't
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oppressed by trump yeah i guess i don't get it maybe because he's half white i i don't understand
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i'm not the fisherman executed without trial right no that's that's fascinating right because what
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they actually going through what he's saying here is is actually brilliant right yes i'm not the
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fisherman executed he means the drug mules from venezuela right that's what he's talking about
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that's what he's they've got like you know six engines on their boat because they're they're
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just out fishing bro and they've got barrels and barrels and it's just like he's just a fisherman
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execute without trial break you believe all of the insane like left-wing narratives that are not
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true yes this is this is the like i mean look at this i'm not the person raped in a detention camp
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okay i don't know what you're talking about but so he thinks that ice is raping illegal migrants
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right i don't i mean i haven't seen a report of that but like the point is it's just my democrat
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feed on social media pretty much has radicalized me in thinking well i mean no one else is trying
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gonna kill trump and if all i ever hear is 100 negative and i don't really think about any of
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these things oh it's a fascist administration all this why are we just standing around like
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cooperating exactly it's like yes there's a hyper narrative that doesn't connect to reality
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and you've decided to live in the hyper narrative and you've taken an action based on that correct
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mental i mean you'll probably get a pardon by the way you'll probably get a pardon from the
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next democrat president it's it's quite possible he gets a part it's quite possible yes obama and
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biden pardoned literal terrorists yes yes they did so did clinton yep so did clinton the democrats
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pardon their own yes they do they do uh not a school kid blown up reference to iran child
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starved reference to gaza teenage girl abused okay howard lutnik's epstein relationship we don't know
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what happened there um but he starts with that narrative and then he continues and then he says
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that he absolutely did not expect to succeed because actually he says that he is surprised
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at how crap the security is at the event. So am I after several assassination attempts.
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Yeah, but your plan was terrible. I'll run in there and then like 100 meters across a crowded
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room, I'll try and shoot Trump. He thought he was John Wick. Yeah, that's a terrible plan.
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He essentially thought that he was John Wick. Expected security cameras at every bend,
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bugged hotel rooms, armed agents every 10 feet,
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So that's one of the things that he points out.
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um and yeah he has a big bunch of uh rhetoric and he had attended the no kings uh prospect
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now eventually people found his blue sky account oh but they instantly removed it when it was found
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i tell you what there should genuinely be a law against removing social media accounts in
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cases completely because sorry no we can all see we we want to know what was going on yeah
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That said, the good folks at the Postmillennial
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had actually gotten a big chunk of his social media accounts.
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Prepare to be shocked that he's a libtard.
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if he outed enough anti-immigrant, anti-trans shit.
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And then he goes, no, they just support the Antichrist.
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Retweeting Aaron Rupar, responding with a guy with a shotgun,
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There's probably a remarkable number of just calls for violence
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and therefore you can see why he ends up in this position.
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It's just genuine process of radicalization where it's-
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means that you have to make sure that your enemy is 100% evil
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And he actually uses the example of the American revolutionaries
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Obviously, they were not telling the truth about the British Empire.
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No, they were 100% good and they were 100% evil.
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But the British Empire actually being really rather conformable
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to what the American revolutionaries actually think,
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and it's over a tax dispute, really, and then ideologically
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it's not the british empire was being you know shooting their children or something
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but they have to then make the propaganda the argument 100 percent one way and zero percent
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the other exactly and that's your third is some tyrannical figure yeah exactly it wasn't no he
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obviously wasn't and and they still say they still you know americans will still say oh he was he was
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the the british king was a tiger it's like no he wasn't um anyway but the point being that's what's
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happening here and this is the natural corollary of having received a one-sided narrative for years
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and years and years well why aren't we doing something about it and everyone's like well i
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don't know because i can't possibly admit there's some decency on the other side because then i'm
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the traitor and you're all round on me and now i get it in the next so yeah no i don't know why
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we're not doing anything and so eventually you get to this point and this isn't the first time
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we've been down this path like the the previous shooter doubtless would have been the same there
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There is, not just attempts, assassination attempts on Trump,
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but like other shootings and other attacks where it's just, you know,
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if you continually tell people white supremacy is the problem,
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I'll go and kill a bunch of white people and things like this.
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I don't think it's a great leap to figure out how this guy would have reacted
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And so it's just this endless stream of the same ideas, of the same claims, of the same ideas.
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You know, stop playing by the rules, he says to Democrats, retweeting Mary Trump, of all people.
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Like, the ideas here are just so insane and extreme.
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Of course, he's a Kamala supporter, expected her to actually win.
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They weren't particularly, they're crazy because everything that Democrats say has been crazy for a while now, but he isn't some kind of extreme fringe figure.
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He's actually as mainstream in his Democrats' views as you could possibly be.
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The extreme thing for him was that he took it all literally.
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Right. Whereas most of the time when this kind of political back and forth is going on, we understand that beneath it is actually a kind of shed bedrock of citizenship and country and that we're countrymen.
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And yeah, OK, you might be saying all of these things, but I mean, they're not literally true.
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This is just political rhetoric and the back and forth in the heat of the moment.
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And this guy's like, oh, right. So he is literally Hitler. Why aren't we killing him?
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Exactly. There's an old Nancy Pelosi interview talking about George W. Bush, where, you know, a reporter points out to her that she's launched a bunch of lies against Bush and that they aren't accurate. And she goes, well, he's an adult. He's in this game. This is how it's played.
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yeah but it has real life consequences if you keep doing this for 20 years you are going to
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radicalize people enough to become violent and this guy's opinions are just as mainstream as
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it gets and we it reveals for us the erosion of the bedrock of shared sentiment of country and
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nation and purpose right exactly the the bifurcation is so complete now a mainstream democrat with
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completely, you know, kosher opinions on everything that the Democrats have ever said
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If he was like a Hassan Piker communist, I might understand it.
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You know, I mean, well, you know, Hassan has been radicalizing his audience in something
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that's really far to the left, but that's not even what's happening here.
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It's just like, he just donated money to Kamala via Act Blue.
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Yeah, it's a really interesting question, isn't it?
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And basically, they didn't do the standard security
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that they would do for an event that involves the president.
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Which is something that kind of keeps happening.
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points out, when so many officials gather in one place for official functions, it's typical to have
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it labeled as a national special security event. Sure. And it's weird that you don't. Exactly.
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In a situation where both the president and the vice president were attending,
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wouldn't be surprised if Mike Johnson was there, meaning that the whole line of succession
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for the american government was there and so you would expect a very heavy security presence
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but they decided not to do it because there was a possibility that trump could have cancelled
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because he doesn't always attend these dinners there was a possibility that he could have
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cancelled okay but wouldn't you just do it if he was there and if he cancels then he cancels
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and then they went ahead and oh you want a budget or something sorry it's like oh well you know we
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don't want to get out everything all the bunting and stuff you know like sorry what have you got
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something better to do you're the presidential security detail they went ahead and claimed that
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it was a massive security success story i mean oh yeah trump wasn't a hotel with trump yeah the
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fact that he wasn't killed is great i suppose yes well done jesus um you know the suspect barely
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breached the perimeter yeah fair enough fair enough how did he breach a perimeter exactly
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exactly um it seems that they didn't shoot him which isn't the first time that they missed their
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mark has trump got like a dei security detail or something he replaced them after he took office
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he replaced the head of the uh secret service after he took office precisely to avoid this
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happening but it happened again but if you're trump you're a billionaire why don't you just
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go look i want the most grizzled former navy seals that exist in this country should be volunteers
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out there yeah exactly yeah exactly you know i surely you can find like 36 foot two unbelievably
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gruesome looking men who are like yeah i've killed dozens of people obviously for my country and i'm
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here to protect the president and i literally don't care about anything like like you know i
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saw one of the others is something in a five foot two woman with a finger on the guy it's like so
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what are we doing here now you want absolute units who could literally strangle you to death
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their bare hands what are you doing like i mean it is you know uh
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the gentleman involved was actually featured in abc for developing a brake mechanism for
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wheelchairs okay so that was with um in 2017 he was with jd vance's wife in that as well she was
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featured in it too which is a weird coincidence really oh yeah you in fact you can probably see
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it if we no this is just a 17 second clip it's right right in the in the full sort of two minute
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clip uh you see usha vance at the end of it i don't know if she's married to vance at that time
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but like just weird how like it's actually a surprisingly small number of people involved in
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all of this but um and i've seen the schizo you know questions about this the schizos have a lot
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of theories yeah and i'm just like look man i think he might have just been a nut job
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that is not even a nut job that's the thing he's not even a nut job he's that that that is the
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You see, basically, a reporter saying that Carolyn Levitt's husband told her to be very safe during the dinner.
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And you see her then explaining that he was very serious and the call on Fox News was dropped.
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But anyway, expressing concern for her safety at the dinner.
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There was a Twitter account in 2023 that tweeted out his name,
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and that was the only tweet that this Twitter account had posted.
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It's like with the shooting through the air and the Democrats are,
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It's like, well, the guy got shot and he shot two other people.
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Unless they were all like, yeah, okay, we'll agree.
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we'll all die so trump gets a really good looking assassination attempt of a risky
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thing to stage as well if it's just i mean it's wrong yeah exactly no no no no one is that good
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to a no moving head in the ear that's just not a real possibility yeah uh that said uh trump
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was slow moving away because he wanted to see what was going on we're a bit short on time but
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if you listen to the whole thing actually it's sort of classic trump yeah it's the kind of trump
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Because he's just going, no, they were rushing me,
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I was standing tall, but not too tall, you know,
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And then they're showing him the videos of the event afterwards,
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But then he, Trump very correctly says that these kinds of differences
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I mean, never let a crisis go to waste, I suppose.
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exactly to allow people to just which was used against him to spy on his campaign didn't obama
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use that against him obama used it against him to spy on his campaign now he's backing it the
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system always gets what it wants doesn't it it is genuinely scary it is genuinely scary
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and uh just as a final reminder everything that this guy believed is approved by people like
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you know ted you um obama says we don't have the details about the motives
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i mean he told us he literally wrote a manifesto saying i'm a libtard and i don't understand why
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all the libtards around me are going along with this got better access to the information and
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we found out yeah it was in the papers yeah we know exactly what the motives were oh yeah and
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It was basically the same stuff that people like Tim Walz
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and people like CNN and people like Kamala and all of them say.
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apart from the fact that it could have gone totally wrong
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and obviously someone was hurt in the process of it,
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you know, got his degree, made his video games,
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of just slop and, like, Democrat slop and propaganda,
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that actually, no, that's not a good enough lie for me.
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It's a tragedy how people's minds have been poisoned like this.
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in a way like he's not wrong if you just uncritically believe the things you're being
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told oh trump is a fascist and we've been taken over by fascism and they're doing fascist things
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like setting up death camps and all this sort of stuff well then yeah if if i thought that was
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happening yeah and i'd be like okay yeah no we probably do have to do something right yes i
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wouldn't you know i wouldn't do the one lone man thing because i'd be like okay well if everyone
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else isn't doing it maybe i'm the person who's mad but the point is it's actually not like an
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rational action to think, right, okay, no, we have to do something to resist the government
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if you genuinely believe it. It's just that the rest of them don't genuinely believe it.
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Like Kamala Harris here, do you think Trump's a fascist? Yes, yes, I do. Well, why are you
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engaging in an election against him then? Why you don't think that? Like, why is he
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engaging in an election if he's a fascist? Like, it's just mad.
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Exactly. Exactly. Anyway, there you have it. Democrats are at it again.
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um there's nothing surprising some great comments here the correspondence dinner is
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fifteen thousand dollars a plate if if i were you bet your ass i'm making off with whatever i can
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that's that's what i was thinking like you know they're not paying for it personally the journalists
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you know it's just gonna get a waste right i mean i'm not even i'm not even against that sort of
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stuff uh bald eagle says the fact that blue sky reddit and other social media sites have zero
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legal consequence for deleting evidence connected to these psychopaths tells me all i need to know
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and not just that um they don't like again the fact that hassan piker can call for murders over
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and over and over and be like the bell of the ball with the it was at the washington post new york
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times new york times yeah uh and the paper of record and the fact that you know twitch are
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like yeah well he's critical to our business model actually yeah he's demanding the deaths
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of republicans we actually can't survive as a company without him so we're never going to ban
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him it's like okay but that's that that's crazy yes and it obviously has effects yes oph uk says
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john woke yeah basically is like genuinely the unfortunate part if trump hired security the
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media would have another dictator talking yeah i guess maybe anyway let's let's move on
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so i think it's evident in britain at the moment uh that evil is stalking the land
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and this sounds like quite a medieval thing to say but actually i think it's just demonstrably
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true samsung can we get the next one up please um i think it's just demonstrably true and i don't
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see how we can argue the case against it um the most recent example of this just being i mean
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this happens all the time right so it's one of those things where it's every single day there
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is another asylum seeker rape or murder yeah that is just horrific and you're just like right okay
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these are events that you know when you when you go through the the details of it these are events
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that just would never have happened in england no right when i was growing up they never happened
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i mean the worst did it would be front page news for days rather than just a sort of in passing
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thing that happens every single other day it'd be weeks and like the so for example the dunblane
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massacre was one of those things that everyone's just like my god in the 90s or harold shipman
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right we've got like you know you hear like the one or two things you say wow that's amazing
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how could that happen you know fred west like you've got like a couple things but these things
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are happening so quickly and so fast and they're so awful that i i genuinely think people are
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becoming a bit just numb to what the case is yes so we're just we're just going to go through this
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um this event and i just want you to keep an eye on these guys who uh just pure evil genuine pure
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evil right so a woman had been separated from my friends on a night out when these three men
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found her staggering in the street uh drunk uh alone and quote incapacitated hove crown court
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heard two of the men took her behind a beach hut where they raped her and another went to a location
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moments later and captured footage of the attack so two of them are raping her one of them's filming
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it and they're all laughing at it by the way uh ibrahim al-shaif from egypt abdullah and madi
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from iran uh both denied this but they were found guilty because literally it's on video
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and then egyptian national karen al-danasurit was also found guilty on all four counts of rape
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as a secondary party by encouraging and filming the ordeal the footage showed the woman falling
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down twice with prosecutors describing the attack as cynical predatory and callous i mean it's just
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pure evil right al-shaif was shown smiling and sticking his tongue out during the assault
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as well as slapping the woman in the face uh they spat in the woman's mouth and called her a dirty
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bitch um the woman told the police that she remembered being spat on kicked and her throat
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being grabbed during the attack as with the as well as the men laughing being cross-examined
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from behind a screen in the screen in the court she cried and said it's the filmer's face i see
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every time i close my eyes laughing at me so this isn't like a crime of passion or something like
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this right this is a crime of uh humiliation this is a group of people who are in the country and
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we're paid to come into our country who have nothing but contempt for the native people
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and as soon as they find someone vulnerable they're like great we can humiliate we can rape
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we can take from and we can laugh in their face while they do it and we for some reason think
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there are going to be no consequences for this exactly as the motives are in across the rape
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gangs yeah exactly right and so they all knew each other they were all living in the same
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migrant hotel near horsham in west sussex they're going to be sentenced on the 15th july and it's
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just mad that we're letting monsters like this into our country like thank you robert janrick
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yeah but it's not just janrick i mean these aren't afghans right these are from iran these
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from egypt and libya so these are the boat crossing didn't he start the hotel program
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uh oh god he might have done actually yes it's under him i believe right okay i'd have to double
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check but the point is whether they're in a hotel or army barracks they're allowed to just roam
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around the country as opposed to being confined as opposed to being confined because you don't
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know who these people are and at his trial we got this picture now this is just amazing right
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now i just want to just want to be clear right evil is ugly yeah beauty is good this is just a
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fact of life and you see it all the time and the fact that as you can see people like no this is
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the physiognomy of evil why does why does this guy end up looking like the mouth of saron because
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actually evil is kind of predictable in this way uh it hides its eyes because the eyes being the
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window to the soul it has an evil looking grin a disgusting grin where it's weird and toothy and
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callous right it's uncaring it this i mean i if i was on trial for anything like this i can't
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imagine cracking a smile right i can't even imagine and yet this person doesn't care right
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they don't care about you they literally are the very epitome of what it is to be evil i'm here to
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take from you mercilessly that's the point i mean after they raped this girl they went and had a
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barbecue right they just completely callous it's like the the woman at the hotel who was stabbed
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yeah a dozen or 24 times something and they went back and had beers with them and so that's so
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Okay, for these people, human compassion isn't something that exists, right?
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These are genuinely the sort of barbaric raiders who are here to harm you.
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And we just give them the freedom of our country, right?
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These are people without any kind of sense of conscience.
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and they're being paid but it's it's it's worse than that right it's if if someone was morally
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deficient then they could feel their deficiency yes right but these people don't feel their
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deficiency they revel in the evil they revel in the harm this was fun for him and he would do it
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again in a heartbeat yes right that's what this smile tells us and if you don't take that prison
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and the basis of his assignment claims he fled the country to evade a lengthy custodial sentence
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now his defense barrister denies that but i'm sorry i'm not prepared to give you the benefit
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of the doubt no actually you know if if you were somehow in court for i don't know buying flowers
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and handing them out to you know old ladies or something then maybe i'd be like okay maybe he
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didn't do it you know maybe it was his brother but since you're in court for raping a vulnerable
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woman who was alone at night i'm actually inclined to believe that no you probably are a murderer
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and again i've seen your face and i'm not i'm not inclined i'm making judgments on that basis at this
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point um so why was he here right why was he here how did he get here well he broke in on a small
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boat threw his information away and then we just brought him in as if this was a babe in the woods
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like like moses sailing down the euphrates on a basket whatever it is oh the nile well sorry
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the sargon ones the euphrates uh the the nile on a basket you know and we'll just take him in no
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these these are predators who have come in knowing that we're stupid and we're giving them the keys
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to the kingdom now compare this monster genuine monster to his defenders right let's watch uh
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Zoe Gardner here and these experiences of being locked up and detained we're not talking about
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people who have done harm to another person we're talking about asylum seekers who have entered the
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country through a regular means because there are no regular means and they are being paraded
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on our screens as a political football in so just a quick I mean let's let's just look at the
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difference there right now if i were to describe the kind of physiognomy of zoe gardner i would
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liken her to a rabbit right i would liken her to something out of like wind in the willows right
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she's she's someone who is clearly an englishwoman product of england nothing terrible i hope has
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ever happened to her and it's given her this remarkable innocence yes right i don't think
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she's ever really crossed anyone or hurt anyone i don't know anything about her but if i were to
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judge just by looking at her do i think that she has vindictively hurt anyone do i think she's
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fleeing another country because she murdered someone do i think she's raped no of course not
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look at her right she is just a rabbit in the headlights and yet she finds herself
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defending the mouth of sauron yes like sorry you don't know what you're talking about
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and she doesn't she she won't even concede that some of them might be of bad character yeah
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Even as you get up, like, years and years of lists of all of the terrible examples that we've had,
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and you shove it in the face, still she will not concede that, hang on, there might be a problem here.
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From their end, how they treat us once they arrive on our shores.
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Essentially, this is a sort of displacement of Christian sentiment.
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She believes that everybody who isn't white European is some kind of holy victim and must be elevated.
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It is Christian fumes without Christian thought.
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What I want to focus on, though, is just the difference in the way they look.
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You can see the predatory scars on this guy's face.
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you can see the innocence in her face she doesn't understand no they're about they're probably about
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the same age that she doesn't understand she will never understand well she might one day understand
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but then it'll be far too late and you know god god forbid something terrible like what this man
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did would happen to her even though she sat here going they're not criminals they're asylum seekers
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no literally criminal literal murderer allowed in the country to escape justice and she's there in
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defense of it because of her naivety part of the reason why we need a patriotic government like
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restore is to save people like zoe from themselves yes yes and this is a great point there's no point
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arguing with zoe about any of these things right she's not going to stop she's not going to stop
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i mean what happens at say two in the morning when this man is looking through her door yeah
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what does she do about this and what would he what would have happened if he had gotten in
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god only knows god only knows what's his plan what's he thinking zoe has no idea yeah zoe has
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no idea and what would she do if he turned up at the door and again we have many many stories at
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this point as well of women who have been terribly raped by migrants and then they've lied about the
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identity of their attackers in order to save the system as opposed to just accept that this person
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was a terrible you know person and should be thrown in jail or of course you know have the
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death penalty i mean it's genuinely terrifying for me right because as as ridiculous as i find
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zoe as a political commentator i don't wish her any harm nor do i like you know i i think you
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know she actually needs to be protected from herself and other people need to be protected
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from the sort of things that are happening here's a great example just again i can just pull off
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Migrant who sexually assaulted girls seven
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worked for Taliban before arriving in the United Kingdom.
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Fury over Green Party is Polanski's mad plan
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So you're going to be paying 1,600 pounds a month
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just to foreigners who break into the country people like him yeah basically i mean he wants
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it for everyone he would argue so i you know i want literally everyone to get a thousand six
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hundred pounds a month but especially these people but again oh we're just the innocent migrants
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right okay he worked for the taliban which means he's complicit with all the crimes of the taliban
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he gets here and then he sexually assaults a girl right this is a seven-year-old uh yeah yeah a
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seven-year-old right this is what he said in the court quote i like children and she was a child
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all right so migrant pedophiles are being allowed in brought in and someone like say
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caledenia again look at the face right look at the i think they've got a picture of this guy in here
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there we go right look at him right so okay taliban pedophile let into the country helped in
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innocence destroyed, every time I close my eyes
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and then we'll go to Carla Daniel, the former co-leader
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of the Green Party. The Green Party, we take a totally different approach to refugees because
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this is ultimately about what kind of society we want to live in. And I'm clear that the majority
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of Brits want us to live in a welcoming and civilised society. So we think the UK government
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needs to do three things. Firstly, to create safe and legal routes for those fleeing danger,
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persecution and war so that the smugglers with their small boats taking advantage of people in
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a desperate situation lose their business model second as if that's what this is about desperate
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people these are people here for a rape and pillaging trolley when she says you can have we
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we want to have a welcoming and civilized no no you have to choose we have a welcoming society
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or we have a civilized society you can't have both but again look at the person themselves yeah
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look at her big wide eyes her soft face her very neatly cut very well done she's she's someone
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who's never had a real problem in her life she is a product of a very safe place that has been very
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well settled for a long time with very sensible rules that everyone followed and she's like okay
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i just want the taliban pedophile in the country i just want the egyptian murderer in the country
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so do you do you know that like you you know you don't know if i know you don't know someone who
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with your kind of face who's lived in your kind of life does not know anything about what these
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kinds of men will do yes right you do not know anything about them again but it just carries on
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doesn't it just carries on his um uh the terrorist from hartlepool look at this guy yeah look at the
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he's a terrorist from hartlepool i can't make the image any bigger for some reason um but he murdered
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a pensioner um and then he tried to murder an imam when he was in prison it's like look ahmed
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ali alid do you want more of him we want safe and legal routes we don't want him to come across on
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a boat like he did look at his face right your life tells on your face your face is the autobiography
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of your life if you end up with a face like this or like this instead of a face like this you've
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got to you've got to be able and a face like this you've got to be able to see it right you've got
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to be able to see it when you know when it's around you because it will be around you and
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it's around us all the time these things are terrible i mean like these are just mad absolutely
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you mad migration is britain's superpower we need to bring in as many of these people as we can
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it's like are you mental i mean like think about the murder of wayne broadhurst 20 was it 22 year
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old yeah 22 year old afghan uh migrant who this is one of jenberg's boys uh brian and just stabs
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him to death i mean i can't play you the footage obviously but it's just the most harrowing thing
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and wayne look at him he's a normal bloke he doesn't have the kind of callousness in the face
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the kind of cruelty in the face right the kind of downturn the sneer the contempt for others
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right he doesn't have that this this soul behind the eyes and brain broadhurst right that isn't
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present in these other men i'm sorry i it's important that we actually make judgments like
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this because these judgments are made for our own survival for our own safety like and then
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like people like carla daniel's just like no wide-eyed oh no aren't we all no no no no and
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these things happen all day every day right just i mean this is the center for migration control
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2025 illegal migration crime audit and it's just yeah it just goes it goes and goes and goes like
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there is loads of examples like afghan migrant uh where is this guy from uh does it even tell us
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where he's from way to go kuwaiti yeah again you can see it in the expressions on the face
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right they come from a totally different society they they come they've had they've led totally
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here's our boy again like they look like they would be cruel and it's not wrong for us to judge
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them on the way that they look the expressions that they have the lack of mercy the lack of
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charity the lack of concern for anyone else again this just keeps going on do you think if you run
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into this guy he's going to be kind i'm sorry no we can make these judgments and we should make
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these judgments anyway like i said this just goes on and on and on and for the sake of time i'll
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i'll stop it there but i'm sorry i'm just done looking at these babes in the woods who are just
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like well them they're asylum seekers therefore they're innocent and vulnerable and we need to
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protect them it's like you don't know what you're talking about have you ever been punched in the
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face have you ever had a fight have you ever had someone try and steal something from you where
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you've had to grapple off them have you ever had someone make an advance on your person where they
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just want to take something from you and they give you no sympathy and if that's i know if you've
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never had this then your opinion on this is not valid we do not need it all right um jump to read
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the rumble rants from yeah your segment um where we go oh from sorry so uh one dollar tom rat says
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as a kid i remember leanne tiernan uh her killer lived less than a mile from me i remember hunt
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It was a 10-year-old child or something like that.
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They're still living in this country now, actually.
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I think it has been leaked, though, but anyway.
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that it was just like, no, I remember it very clearly
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To which, Carl and Firas, the answer is modern exile,
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indefinite custodial sentence after your main jail time
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Let's just go into the other ones, if that's all right,
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the members of the ruling class are not spiritual.
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To them, religion is a control system for the masses.
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The problem is that Christianity is not fit for purpose,
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I mean, these people aren't the ruling class, though.
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And Fleet Lord Advar says leftists, left-hards, ain't no one liberal in that group for $5.
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Well, after that segment, I feel like it makes sense to actually highlight, you know what,
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maybe there is actually one party on the British landscape that might actually do something about all of this.
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Yeah, on the plus side, there is one party leader who gets the gravity of the situation.
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And honestly, there was nothing more demoralizing. I particularly remember back when it was during lockdown and when we were all trapped in our homes, the BLM stuff, just that cultural revolution swirling about.
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And it just felt like every step that Britain took was a step towards furthering justice, more evil, more despair.
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And the light at the end of the tunnel was, I just couldn't see it back then, just five years ago. I couldn't see it.
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But since Restore Britain has come onto the horizon, I do. And I feel like this actual, this isn't just my belief as well. I see it constantly surrounded by, you know, good people that I work with and people who are in our movement, right?
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You see the optimism, the vitality, the vigor, right, the requirement to just get stuck in there and do something to save the country.
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And for a lot of those people as well, it's because they've had nothing to do but just look on in horror powerless for so long as all of this has been done to us.
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And I think for a lot of people as well, I see a lot on X how there's some accounts from Restore and there's some accounts from Reform that try to sow this discontent and this rift between.
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They're useless and a busted flush and we shouldn't be supporting them.
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But what I am saying is that for many of the Reform UK voters, they are just people living in fear and confusion like us, and they are just simply trying to look for what they see as the surest horse to back that will actually alleviate so many of the problems that we're going through.
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My point of view on this is that I'm not spending the next four years of my life campaigning for a party that I know is going to betray me at the end of it.
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That's my position. We've been through that too many times before, and we're not having the Fell For It Again Awards.
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we could find here from one of the most recent find out now polls of course restore britain
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ended up on nine percent when prompted yes when unprompted they're on four percent right but
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that's still amazing yeah prompted like every other party yeah every yeah once they're given
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a fair playing field just to be clear that's not giving an advantage that's giving them the same
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as everyone else right and that's after a month and so there was there's been an enormous amount
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of frustration, actually, with the evolution of Restore and with, as I say, the vitality and the
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energy bursting behind it. I mean, you know, within just over a month, they've basically
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passed the oldest political party in the world in terms of their membership. And you can feel like
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there is a real possibility here that we can galvanize a nation and put forward the policies
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that will do such things as stop all of the things that you were talking about in your segment and
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all of the terrible crimes and murders. And so when you have a news organization like
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GB News that styles itself as the people's channel, right, and also that set itself up
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as saying, you know, it came about on the proviso, look, we recognize the fact that
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the BBC, Sky News, they're actually not giving your thoughts, your concerns, your representation
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any legitimacy here. We will be that for you. We will be the home for you where you can
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come and you can trust us to not have some other agenda right we're not actually politicking
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behind the scenes ourselves we're actually going to be more honest and open with you and just just
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to be clear i accept that politicking behind the scenes it happens i just want to know who's
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interested in service of right gb news the the position of gb news was ostensibly okay this is
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this is the the the tv station for the people of britain so any politicking i would expect to be
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I still to this day don't know why he admitted this.
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made by GB News to keep Rupert Lowe off the channel.
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We kind of got that when there was a strong hint given when Rupert Lowe was kicked from the party and his GB News appearances suddenly just dried up.
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And also the fact as well that Charlie Downs just some months ago was also seemed to be in the beginnings of having what was called Radio Britannia on GB News with Alice Grant.
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And then again, Restore Britain came along and that opportunity seemed to have dried up.
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And Charlie, in the end, was only being offered like 1am slots, as he tells it, by the end.
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And this is not to single out particular presenters.
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Or this is, as David Bull points out, this is an editorial standard that has been imposed on them from the top.
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But also as well, this speaks to the fact that not only is because there are, I mean, between the fact that Nigel Farage has got a show, Lee Anderson has got a show, right?
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It's obvious that it's very hard for GB News to navigate what is Reform's interest and what are like the Ofcom approved interests.
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And they have to balance all of these sorts of things.
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And for a long time, it's been quite easy for GB News to simply ignore Restore because they're never going to have just Ofcom knocking on the door saying, excuse me, would you mind interviewing Rupert Lowe for the sake of impartiality?
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Obviously, Ofcom were never going to come around and do that.
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So they've had this protective shield, but all it's made clear is that it's just a means to buy time.
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Yes. That's all they can really do by time until it becomes inevitable that eventually Rupert is going to have to be welcomed on the show. And Rupert has done it. Right.
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So we had this interview with Jacob Rees-Mogg, who apparently invited Rupert on for a pre-recorded interview. And about, well, so it was quite strange because they hyped it up and said, oh, it's going to be coming out at 8 p.m.
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and then they put it out right at the end of the show and then it was really just like this 10
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minute interview at the end and they're like oh and you can get the rest of the interview
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later on which it turns out even that may not have been entirely true so what what's interesting
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about this is a couple of weeks ago i can't remember who mog's mog was on someone's show
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and they were asking him it was a right winger who he was talking to i wish i'd like bookmarked
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it or something i just didn't think you know i was just listening to and mog was just categoric
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you're going to split the right wing vote.
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And I mean, this whole interview was genuinely,
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And you could see that he was winning Mog over with the rhetoric.
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And you can see, well, I don't disagree with any of that.
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So I thought we'd just play some of the clips and talk about them as we go.
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We're not necessarily dragging voters from Tories or indeed from reform.
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We are bringing some, and we had a defection yesterday in South Cornwall
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of a reform candidate, a very good man called Roger Tarrant,
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who joined us, deputy leader of the council down there,
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shares our view, businessmen, got very frustrated
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with the way in which reform was dealing with it.
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that still doesn't get you to winning a majority.
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It still leads to the same problem of the right group split.
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It increases the common sense vote, not diminishes it.
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But it doesn't work like that in the first-past-the-post system.
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there's a vote for a store there's a vote for the tories can we pause that that is remarkable
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right that is a remarkable opinion because i mean you go back three years ago there wasn't a vote
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for reform where did it come from how did they arrive greens really for the greens right it's
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not that the parties have the he's got a very sort of socialist view of democracy and what
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rupert is actually arguing is a free market view of democracy it's like no no no we're going to
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come out here and make our case and if the voters choose us then you lose yeah that's the problem
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and mog is there no well we're all here and we all deserve a slice of the pie and therefore we
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all deserve to have our bit carved up and have packed and all this sort of thing and and rupert
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is like no i'm here to win and i can win and so mog looks genuinely like he's on the back foot and
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kind of afraid of what's coming yeah and the other thing as well is just to say that um because we
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know for a fact that many of Reform UK's actual party members don't even particularly think that
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Nigel Farage is the person to lead their own party as well. And this comes back to what I was saying
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towards the beginning of this, when you have the fact that many of these people are just...
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Because even though, right, for a lot of the 20th century, it was just, well, I'm voting Labour,
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I'm voting Tory, because I have to do this, because otherwise the other one will win,
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of that line of thought within the political system itself.
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People aren't, though there is a greater plurality,
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and I think that our system is all the better for it in having this,
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I do think that you can see there are a good number of people now
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that have jumped to reform from the Tories and they're thinking,
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okay, but no more splitting the vote from here,
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You made all of these arguments against Farage.
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And it's like, well, here we are now. And actually, Restore just looks like by far the most robust option. And the one that's messaging is cutting through. How do I know that Restore Britain's messaging is cutting through?
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I know this because reform are adopting it right this is how we know when we get to the point where
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Zia Yusuf is just echoing Charlie Downs saying well it's actually about establishment versus
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anti-establishment and I would be remiss not to just mention the grilling from Connor here
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where he talks about the fact that those in Milbank Tower uh told him that they apparently
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monitor the restore guys every day Dan and I covered some of this in the political chat we
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had the other day um it it's apparently uh and again connor has shown me the messages that his
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his friends in millbank tower have been sending him uh there's essentially chaos in millbank tower
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because they could i mean when when you're the person you thought you'd politically assassinated
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comes out in the polls at nine percent you're like oh wait yeah that's our vote yes you know
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we're down to 21 he's on nine oh no he's eating us up yeah and so what's what's our what's our
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strategy, be more milquetoast and centrist than he is, it's not going to win.
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They're trying to pivot to the right with Nadim Zahawi and Nadine Dorries.
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And you see Nadim Zahawi, he welcomed that, what's her name?
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Andrea Romero, the new head of the civil service, who is the queen of work.
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There's not even, from the likes of Zahawi or Doris,
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There's not even an attempt to, like, try and, oh, I saw the error.
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Zahawi's just like, no, it's business as usual.
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Like, Farage, there's a clip going around at the moment where he's like,
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no, I think Tony Blair is a good person to help with the vaccines.
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and supported the vaccines uh he was like i'm not an anti-immigration party i'm not a populist
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there's another recent thing that he had an interview saying it's like sorry who are you
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what are you doing here you know rupert like and there's another one oh i think his arm is a good
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man like i don't dislike his arm and now he said that in i think it was 2025 it looked like because
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he was afraid of starma's tyrannical tendencies and instead rupert loads like no i think starma's
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terrible i think he's a bad person i think all of these are terrible like no i want the straight
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talking, honest person who's got a kind of harder countenance about these things and looks like he
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stands his own ground. Yeah, exactly. That's what I want. And it's interesting as well, because
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actually when you compare Farage with Rupert Lowe, you see the fact that Farage, as you say,
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is someone who's like, oh, I think the Prime Minister's an all right guy actually in all of
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this. But he doesn't actually work in Parliament across party to actually achieve any tangible
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victories. Whereas Rupert Lowe will say, no, I think the Prime Minister's a terrible person.
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But if anyone wants to help me with some things that are actually productive, feel free to come and join me, as, you know, he did with some of the Tory MPs turning up to the independent rape gang trial, right?
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Yeah. So that's, you know, obviously a good thing from Rupert.
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And Lewis Brackpull is quite right here where he says,
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Zia, this all sounds well and good on paper, but the sentiment applies to restore Britain, not reform UK.
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How can you honestly post this when you're the same party that's been absorbed by the establishment?
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And it's absolutely true. So reform can adopt, restores rhetoric, but they can't wear it authentically. And the other thing is as well, even if they think that, oh, well, maybe by posturing to the right again, which we never had to do and left to our own devices, we showed ourselves to be more of the same.
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But even if we do that, you're not going to claw back those 9% of voters because they're either made up of people who originally wanted to join reform, like Beau or Dan, and you decided were untenable, even though they're perfectly sensible, decent gentlemen.
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Sorry, another thing. Nigel said he would be to the left of the Tories come the next election on immigration.
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Yeah, I believe him too, but why would you say it? Jesus Christ. So yeah, honestly, just mad. Absolutely mad.
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And the other thing as well, this isn't really relevant to the GB News interview, but whilst a lot of the Scottish MPs and people are going around campaigning at the moment because of the elections that are going to be going on there, you have the guy who's the head of reform in Scotland.
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And he's just coming out and just saying, oh, no, I'm still for the legals and everything.
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And it's like, dude, literally, like, because I did a daily where I was talking about his debate with Anna Sawa.
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It's like, dude, all the legals do is get on stage and call you racist.
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Why do you even want those guys here when that's all they do?
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The head of reform in Wales said the same thing.
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Well, sure, you would be in Wales and Scotland because you haven't had any, right?
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We live in England where 90% of the legal immigrants have come.
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Personal highlight from the interview here for me, which we'll play.
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We've said we will detain and deport every person illegally arriving.
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We will then find and deport those people living here illegally
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We will then deport the 10,500 foreign criminals in our prisons.
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unlike Farage, who said he's claimed that I said we deport whole communities of people with British
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passports. I've never said that. We will, however, turn our attention then, as Sweden and Denmark are
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doing now, having pursued a very ill-judged policy of immigration in 2015, along with Merkel,
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we will turn our attention to those people who came here, who are not contributing to Britain,
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and we will find a formula to encourage them to leave
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we'll find a formula which effectively encourages them to go home
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and which will ultimately save the taxpayer money.
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So repatriation of people who have been awarded British passports?
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If they agree to go because we make it worth their while to go.
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It's like, how could you think of taking someone's British passport away?
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It's like, well, you were happy to give them one.
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It's like, how is one more extreme than the other?
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The conversation between immigrants living in Britain
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will at some point touch on the question, did you get the passport?
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Have you actually become British and decided to adapt
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and actually absorb this culture and teach it to your children and have it replace yours.
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This is not in any way implied, understood, or thought of.
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The question is, do you have a piece of paper that if you were to get a job offer in the UAE, for example,
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you would be able to take it on a higher salary threshold with slightly more legal protections than you would have
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And when you see these fully segregated communities,
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completely segregated, and say, well, they're just British,
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Was it Anasadwa's father who gave up his passport to go and...
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you wouldn't take away their legal right to stay here, would you?
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I mean, well, Shabana Mahmood is literally denaturalizing Englishmen, actually.
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So when we need to, we've got all of the justification we need to.
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Yeah, we're not going to be deporting people with British passports.
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They're not going to have British passports when they get deported.
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But one thing as well I just want to draw attention to is that there is a real possibility,
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and I believe it truly, that Restore Britain can just outright win the next election.
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And that we actually, in a first-past-the-post system, are actually uniquely positioned to win it in a way that other patriotic European parties simply aren't right now because they always have these grand coalitions of traitors spawning in against them.
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And I actually think that if Britain can lead the way and actually show some actual patriotic policy in Europe and where, I mean, just going off of this alone, obviously, yes, millions must go and millions will go purely by this criteria alone.
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And my goodness, I will not be able to wait to see, you know, those in particular who, you know, do the TikToks waving the passports as of, ha, can't touch us now.
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you are right millions will go because of this because a lot of the lure to bring these people
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here is you can claim money from the government yes the second that dries up it's literally going
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to be people like fair ass left who are like yeah no i pay my taxes actually and i don't get any
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money from the bloody government i'm a sap you know i'm a sucker you're just like us i've paid
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a insane amount of taxes i paid a lot of taxes you'd be like the average englishman for us
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just today were posting about the fact that they were going to reverse migration as well now all
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of a sudden. I thought mass deportations were impossible. I thought that was just not what
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you wanted your name attached to. Right. And this is the thing as well. Cowards. Yeah, exactly. And
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so it's like, well, why would I trust you when you're entire, when once again, this will happen
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as Restore Britain posts here. As Restore Britain's mass deportation policy is implemented,
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there will be resistance or even riots. Correct. A Restore Britain government would use the full
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power of the state to enforce what the british people elected us to do mass deportations don't
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like it get out of the way excellent do we trust reform to have the same amount of confidence in
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its position in what in the mandate the position they're stealing from someone else yes they didn't
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believe in it themselves no i don't not particularly nigel will boris you yes nigel
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there'll probably be a farage wave yes right whereas actually rupert lowe based what you
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were saying earlier about sort of inspiring other patriots all over the West, Rupert Lowe can be the
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man that Trump was supposed to be. Absolutely. Whereas Farage will be the man that Trump actually
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turned out to be. And let's just hear how Restore Britain planned to basically decimate
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reforms councillors. I think the spirit of what we're saying is people who come here,
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who don't necessarily share our culture, who don't understand our culture. Just read that line.
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we don't think it's really suitable for them to be in our parliament.
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Well, I mean, Farage is literally going to have to find a bunch more candidates now.
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As you say, he's a decimate reforms councillors.
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But, I mean, there's nothing controversial about that at all.
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Like, it just doesn't stand to reason that we should have any foreigner
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having any kind of executive power above us.
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you have to surrender your foreign passport
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to have a position of authority over Pakistanis.
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In Britain, you have to build Pakistan airports at Mirpur.
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No, no, tell me why I want someone born overseas
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Suddenly you realize there is no affirmative argument
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absolutely mad yeah brutal and so as always so i don't want to shy away from the other side of
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dialogue that's going on around on the internet after all we are very online parties here and so
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let's talk about it which is where they just talk about the fact that rupert seems very proud of
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being a true taurian that he's got an agreement even though it's obviously the least charitable
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interpretation of what he was saying what i love about this is that rupert's having a conversation
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It's exactly... Fact-checked true, Alistair Campbell.
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but that's that's the point right you know because what rupert lowe is thinking of
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is the kind of england that like the duke of wellington is thinking right that he's you know
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but i bet like on a moral and like policy basis if rupert could go back and have a conversation
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with the duke wellington they'd agree on basically everything right it's like look that's the most
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right-wing sort of uh aristocratic traditional perspective that you can have it's not i'm like
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and on an entirely different plane of existence.
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because Jacob is trying to lean into those aesthetics.
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Jacob, oh no, I'm the traditional right-wing aristocrat.
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But you're very wishy-washy compared to Rupert.
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Restore Britain is nothing more than a Tory Trojan horse.
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who is defending a party that is literally stuffed
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And you're like, Restore Britain is a Tory Trojan horse.
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So, right, the party with a bunch of Tory ex-government ministers.
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I would have thought that Nadine Zahawi was the Tory Trojan horse.
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yeah exactly it's like you can't not list the tory when you name someone in reform yeah like
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and so just this is desperate sad and i don't even know what this is as hadfield says here it's like
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well he won't call them lib dems because as part of an agreement which rupert did say but it was
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like obviously i just took it as i'm coming here on gb news and i'm not going to be very very rude
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to your party on here yeah jack in his i guess uh i'll say innocence and ignorance on the subject
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is mistaking rupert lowe promising to be polite for the purposes of conversation
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with some sort of formal electoral pact or something it's like no jack you are just naive
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which doesn't make there obviously is no pact when rupert in this very interview is shrugging
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being like tory after everything they did after 40 years right and it's just grilling the tory
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Party throughout the entire interview. So none of this really holds any particular weight. And
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apparently the position from reformed slander was so untenable that Ray Albraveman Sweller's
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husband just decided to delete his account after Conor went nuclear on him. And he's been a long
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term reformed supporter. While Sweller was in the Tories, he was in reformed. Yeah, absolutely.
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Can't even defend their position. But then it all gets a little bit more complicated because it
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seemed like we'd had an hours long interview and all had been very fair and actually you know
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some legitimacy could be restored to GB News but then we saw uh only today I believe this came out
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that Rupert's sorry last night I think it was uh Rupert's GB News interview with Jacob Rees-Mogg
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as you know Rupert has been banned from GB News for many months on Farage's instruction
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so we were pleasantly surprised when Jacob asked Rupert onto a show pre-recorded what follows is
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not jacob's fault it was agreed that the interview would go out entirely unedited a shorter clip went
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on jacob's show then the full interview would be online we were told jacob said so on his show too
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a longer clip did go online but it was not the full interview we suspect this may uh happen so
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our team recorded his interview we have the full recording the segment was cut out uh replaced by
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VPN ad, the only ad in the whole video, what did that segment cover? Jacob asked Rupert about what
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happened regarding Reform's attempts to put him in prison. Jacob raised how Rupert's guns were
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seized, how his home was raided by armed police late on the Friday night as a direct result of
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the Reform allegations, and Rupert explained, following Jacob's questioning, that Farage had
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admitted their attempt to incriminate Rupert and imprison him on false allegations were entirely
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because he disagreed with Rupert's position on deporting foreign child rapists. He said so
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publicly at a reform press conference. Farage said it was brutal, but it had to be done. Rupert's
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position is that foreign rapists and their accomplices should be removed. One of the British
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people obviously agree with. That was a real mistake from Farage as well, because he was
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restore it was only like a couple of weeks into restore and Farage had been trying to ignore it
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and a journalist brought it up and he was like look he he said that he would deport entire
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communities which he didn't say he said if that meant entire communities have to go then they
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then so be it he didn't say but anyway uh then Farage was just like well and it was beyond the
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pale I think he literally said it was beyond the pale and so we did what had to be done and maybe
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that's a bit more brutal than most but that's how it's going to be and it's like okay that's really
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stupid nigel yeah right hey you don't look like a tough guy you look like a coward and you've just
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admitted that you made it all up out of a political motive rather than a motive of justice to protect
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rapists because he didn't threaten zia yusuf and you were politically on the hook for something
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one of your mps had said that you just wanted to get out of the way right that i mean that's a
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And then leveraged your power at GB News to silence Rupert Lowe
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and make sure that he was never allowed to make his case on air either
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until he's come away out of the wilderness with 1,300 supporters behind him
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and the fastest-growing political party in Britain.
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and the fastest-growing political party in Britain.
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And so a Restore Britain government will immediately run a fast-track recruitment campaign
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to bring thousands and thousands of British military veterans
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into immigration enforcement roles, field roles, if you will.
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Looking forward to that being on the next Reform Party pledge.
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So anyway, for the sake of time, I would encourage you,
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do go and join Restore Britain on their main website.
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because this is the movement and this is a time for it.
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says i hope you're right but please can someone get restored to start writing policy laying out
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the ideological basis uh well i mean obviously we have that's the thing like the the the papers
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that are coming out yeah um they've got what four of them now yeah and there's another one coming
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out soon um but the point is it's not just like back of the fag packet like oh here's a here's a
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page that we wrote no these are properly uh well informed i mean i was i was uh credited as as
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helping in the very first one, the mass deportations
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says, left-wing violence has unfortunately been
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normalised at Leeds last weekend, left-wing protesters
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peter perr come on this is a this is supposed to be a political ad come on give me something here
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just stoic silence such brilliance i see it now
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bet you're sick of seeing cats at this point after this weekend aren't you samson
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the thing about agricultural robots is that they already exist
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they're called tractors and their attachments seriously though if humanoid robots were as
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available as folks claim some e-thought would have already used one to make adult content by now
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this footage is a program running in a loop to control my mech's motors
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while robots for fun and entertainment are certainly possible
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it's very cool can you make optimus prime next i'd really love to see that
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common argument i see for immigration is that they're saying well without them we wouldn't
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be able to build anything where would your infrastructure go and i can't help but note
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But that with the ever-increasing number of immigrants, it seems like manufacturing and infrastructure seems to go down with the ever-increasing numbers of them.
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You're having a situation where the population is going up, but the industry is going down across every level.
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I mean, if it helps, Britain have the same problem as Ireland here.
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So the train system has been cut back for that.
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I think having a really prolific train system would be great.
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Weird that we get so many cats on this podcast.
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i like i didn't just pull that out i i have i've got a cat who gave birth to a bunch of cats and
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that expression man i remember seeing she's just laying there she's like yeah i just gotta just
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i like cocktails looks like a wonderful day out um zesty hope it was good um all right
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Do you want to read any more from your segment?
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Cash taking cover and observing was not a bad thing.
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To leap up just makes secret services job more difficult,
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I mean, like, you know, it is a bureaucratic job.
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The shooter's comments suggest that he was acting as a canary
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to inform future would-be assassins of how security works
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but he's clearly an idiot for making those weaknesses
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public knowledge that the security team can iron them out.
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Well, you would think, but they shouldn't be there.
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I mean, you'd think the presidential security around Trump would be just unbelievable and unbelievably good.
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But when it comes to Trump, it kind of feels like the Secret Service are being intentionally incompetent with protecting him.
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Like, I am not impressed with the security detail.
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I mean, like, you know, the picture of him with his fist in the air.
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And it's just like, these guys don't look very good at all.
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no you know like sorry i don't mean to um cast aspersions but uh ed middleband harnessing enoch
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power spinning grave says medieval problems require medieval solutions uh this could have
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been your wife or daughter yes uh and this is this is why i wanted to make the point um you just
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it's it's not wrong to judge people by what they present themselves as exactly and a lot of the
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presentation is unconscious like um you know carla denier and uh zoe gardner they can't change
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their soft looks right they can't you know when they if they were to go to egypt or libya or
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whatever people would immediately clock and be like oh my god but if you saw like um i don't
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know just some you know big bulky guy with a rugged face like you know like someone like lee
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anderson actually is good lee anderson goes to egypt he's not getting any trouble because he
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looks like he could be trouble you know and the the people there are good judges of character
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based on what does the person's face look like.
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when the left called you a far-right conspiracy theorist
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for saying that the small boats were even a thing?
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for believing they got free hotels and allowances.
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and they were all perfectly safe women and children.
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But how many people will be killed and raped before then?
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But at least we will have held the line on all of these things
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And they're not going to be able to deny it forever.
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The British police could drag Satan himself in chains
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and these liberal white women will come out to defend
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the Prince of Darkness because he's a refugee from hell.
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um that that is true but they are also um people who are very far away from the problem right on
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their in their personal lives they're very far away from the problem uh you and says when is
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enough enough these monsters need to hang well we're going to get that restore britain government
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so and i mean literally that's one of the campaign promises yeah referendum on the death penalty
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which we're going to win but sorry but calling for it in parliament and the jeers were it's like
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It's like, yeah, the Brexit campaign, yeah, there probably will be a few problems.
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Because when it comes to hanging Axel Rudicabana or this fucking Egyptian twat, trust me, we're
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yeah, hell yeah, I want these people hanged.
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It's like, they'd rather deport them than kill them,
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You have the epic noble hero's journey on your side.
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I saw Nick Dixon's breakdown of the interview
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and he was saying with all these non-voters
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it's like Aragon summoning the army of the dead
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