00:00:00.000Hello and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters, episode 1,405 for Monday, the 27th of
00:00:07.060April, 2025. I'm your host, Luca, joined today by Carl and Firas. And today we're going to be
00:00:13.260talking all about the latest, another, what is this, the third official assassination attempt?
00:00:19.760The third one we know about, or the fourth, actually?
00:00:21.640Right, so they're stacking up now, so we're going to be discussing the latest assassination
00:00:25.980attempt on Trump. We're then going to be talking about how evil just seems to stalk our land
00:00:34.280unchecked. Yeah, I mean, it's just, how would you deny it at this point? Absolutely, you can't.
00:00:39.520You'd have to be a Green voter. Yeah, or a traitor. Or, yeah. What's the, repeat yourself?0.67
00:00:44.240Yes. And then we're going to be talking about Rupert Lowe finally breaking the ban and having
00:00:50.420his first GB News appearance. Before we discuss those things, though, I just want to remind you,
00:00:55.440The third and final part of mine and Stelios' long, detailed discussion all about Apollonius' of Rhodes Argonautica is now on the channel, ready for you to take a look at.
00:01:07.040Stelios and I had a great discussion about this, talking all about the supernatural powers of Medea, the giant bronze statue of Talos on Crete,
00:01:16.180and the absolute despair that the Argonauts fall into when they reach the shores of Libya,
00:01:22.180which seems to just be something that people have felt for over 2,000 years at this point.
00:07:58.440And this is happening more and more and more.
00:08:00.920I mean, G.Manyone, as he points out at the bottom, same thing.
00:08:04.740It's a person who's completely ensconced in the system, is a product of the system,
00:08:08.300and is now essentially those kind of radical terrorists that this system is producing.
00:08:12.440And those institutions support, as we covered in Stelios' segment at the end of last week, when you've got people like Hassan Piker just getting puff pieces from the New York Times, talking about the advantages of social murder.
00:08:24.940Yeah, and Hassan constantly arguing for this to happen.
00:08:28.280Yes. Yes. And you see this thread throughout because this guy had all of the correct opinions.
00:08:36.660Now, in the manifesto, this is a picture of the suspect having been caught.
00:08:46.380It seems he didn't. It seems that he didn't.
00:08:49.120And it's not clear if he shot the security service, the secret service guys, or they were shot accidentally as they opened fire, essentially.
00:09:01.200And he kicks off with an apology to all of his parents and his loved ones and so on.
00:20:03.480There was nothing unique about his insights.
00:20:05.120They weren't particularly, they're crazy because everything that Democrats say has been crazy for a while now, but he isn't some kind of extreme fringe figure.
00:20:19.600He's actually as mainstream in his Democrats' views as you could possibly be.
00:20:24.640The extreme thing for him was that he took it all literally.
00:20:28.200Right. Whereas most of the time when this kind of political back and forth is going on, we understand that beneath it is actually a kind of shed bedrock of citizenship and country and that we're countrymen.
00:20:41.380And yeah, OK, you might be saying all of these things, but I mean, they're not literally true.
00:20:46.420This is just political rhetoric and the back and forth in the heat of the moment.
00:20:49.420And this guy's like, oh, right. So he is literally Hitler. Why aren't we killing him?0.81
00:20:53.920Exactly. There's an old Nancy Pelosi interview talking about George W. Bush, where, you know, a reporter points out to her that she's launched a bunch of lies against Bush and that they aren't accurate. And she goes, well, he's an adult. He's in this game. This is how it's played.
00:21:12.100yeah but it has real life consequences if you keep doing this for 20 years you are going to
00:21:18.860radicalize people enough to become violent and this guy's opinions are just as mainstream as
00:21:24.760it gets and we it reveals for us the erosion of the bedrock of shared sentiment of country and
00:21:31.000nation and purpose right exactly the the bifurcation is so complete now a mainstream democrat with
00:21:37.880completely, you know, kosher opinions on everything that the Democrats have ever said
00:53:29.420And honestly, there was nothing more demoralizing. I particularly remember back when it was during lockdown and when we were all trapped in our homes, the BLM stuff, just that cultural revolution swirling about.0.99
00:53:41.720And it just felt like every step that Britain took was a step towards furthering justice, more evil, more despair.0.98
00:53:49.220And the light at the end of the tunnel was, I just couldn't see it back then, just five years ago. I couldn't see it.
00:53:55.960But since Restore Britain has come onto the horizon, I do. And I feel like this actual, this isn't just my belief as well. I see it constantly surrounded by, you know, good people that I work with and people who are in our movement, right?
00:54:09.060You see the optimism, the vitality, the vigor, right, the requirement to just get stuck in there and do something to save the country.
00:54:19.140And for a lot of those people as well, it's because they've had nothing to do but just look on in horror powerless for so long as all of this has been done to us.
00:54:29.500And I think for a lot of people as well, I see a lot on X how there's some accounts from Restore and there's some accounts from Reform that try to sow this discontent and this rift between.
00:54:42.200I actually, I kind of want a rise above that.
00:54:46.340They're useless and a busted flush and we shouldn't be supporting them.
00:54:49.120But what I am saying is that for many of the Reform UK voters, they are just people living in fear and confusion like us, and they are just simply trying to look for what they see as the surest horse to back that will actually alleviate so many of the problems that we're going through.
00:55:05.920My point of view on this is that I'm not spending the next four years of my life campaigning for a party that I know is going to betray me at the end of it.
00:55:16.180That's my position. We've been through that too many times before, and we're not having the Fell For It Again Awards.
00:55:23.380That's really what this all amounts to.
00:57:49.500We kind of got that when there was a strong hint given when Rupert Lowe was kicked from the party and his GB News appearances suddenly just dried up.
00:57:58.320And also the fact as well that Charlie Downs just some months ago was also seemed to be in the beginnings of having what was called Radio Britannia on GB News with Alice Grant.
00:58:09.800And then again, Restore Britain came along and that opportunity seemed to have dried up.
00:58:14.680And Charlie, in the end, was only being offered like 1am slots, as he tells it, by the end.
00:58:19.960So everyone knows GB News' position on this.
00:58:24.000And this is not to single out particular presenters.
00:58:27.240Or this is, as David Bull points out, this is an editorial standard that has been imposed on them from the top.
00:58:41.340But also as well, this speaks to the fact that not only is because there are, I mean, between the fact that Nigel Farage has got a show, Lee Anderson has got a show, right?
00:58:51.400It's obvious that it's very hard for GB News to navigate what is Reform's interest and what are like the Ofcom approved interests.
00:58:59.560And they have to balance all of these sorts of things.
00:59:01.620And for a long time, it's been quite easy for GB News to simply ignore Restore because they're never going to have just Ofcom knocking on the door saying, excuse me, would you mind interviewing Rupert Lowe for the sake of impartiality?
00:59:16.680Obviously, Ofcom were never going to come around and do that.
00:59:20.260So they've had this protective shield, but all it's made clear is that it's just a means to buy time.
00:59:28.740Yes. That's all they can really do by time until it becomes inevitable that eventually Rupert is going to have to be welcomed on the show. And Rupert has done it. Right.
00:59:39.620So we had this interview with Jacob Rees-Mogg, who apparently invited Rupert on for a pre-recorded interview. And about, well, so it was quite strange because they hyped it up and said, oh, it's going to be coming out at 8 p.m.
00:59:54.040and then they put it out right at the end of the show and then it was really just like this 10
00:59:58.380minute interview at the end and they're like oh and you can get the rest of the interview
01:00:02.360later on which it turns out even that may not have been entirely true so what what's interesting
01:00:08.720about this is a couple of weeks ago i can't remember who mog's mog was on someone's show
01:00:13.480and they were asking him it was a right winger who he was talking to i wish i'd like bookmarked
01:00:18.300it or something i just didn't think you know i was just listening to and mog was just categoric
01:00:22.600He was like, you know, restore Britain.
01:03:38.800And it's like, well, here we are now. And actually, Restore just looks like by far the most robust option. And the one that's messaging is cutting through. How do I know that Restore Britain's messaging is cutting through?
01:03:53.260I know this because reform are adopting it right this is how we know when we get to the point where
01:04:00.580Zia Yusuf is just echoing Charlie Downs saying well it's actually about establishment versus
01:04:05.440anti-establishment and I would be remiss not to just mention the grilling from Connor here
01:04:10.140where he talks about the fact that those in Milbank Tower uh told him that they apparently
01:04:14.960monitor the restore guys every day Dan and I covered some of this in the political chat we
01:04:19.920had the other day um it it's apparently uh and again connor has shown me the messages that his
01:04:26.720his friends in millbank tower have been sending him uh there's essentially chaos in millbank tower
01:04:32.600because they could i mean when when you're the person you thought you'd politically assassinated
01:04:37.120comes out in the polls at nine percent you're like oh wait yeah that's our vote yes you know
01:04:43.360we're down to 21 he's on nine oh no he's eating us up yeah and so what's what's our what's our
01:04:48.480strategy, be more milquetoast and centrist than he is, it's not going to win.
01:05:39.760Like, Farage, there's a clip going around at the moment where he's like,
01:05:42.720no, I think Tony Blair is a good person to help with the vaccines.
01:05:45.060He went out and banged his pots for the NHS.
01:05:46.820and supported the vaccines uh he was like i'm not an anti-immigration party i'm not a populist
01:05:52.120there's another recent thing that he had an interview saying it's like sorry who are you
01:05:56.460what are you doing here you know rupert like and there's another one oh i think his arm is a good
01:06:01.940man like i don't dislike his arm and now he said that in i think it was 2025 it looked like because
01:06:07.100he was afraid of starma's tyrannical tendencies and instead rupert loads like no i think starma's0.53
01:06:11.500terrible i think he's a bad person i think all of these are terrible like no i want the straight
01:06:15.580talking, honest person who's got a kind of harder countenance about these things and looks like he
01:06:20.860stands his own ground. Yeah, exactly. That's what I want. And it's interesting as well, because
01:06:24.880actually when you compare Farage with Rupert Lowe, you see the fact that Farage, as you say,
01:06:30.040is someone who's like, oh, I think the Prime Minister's an all right guy actually in all of
01:06:33.280this. But he doesn't actually work in Parliament across party to actually achieve any tangible
01:06:39.000victories. Whereas Rupert Lowe will say, no, I think the Prime Minister's a terrible person.
01:06:42.980But if anyone wants to help me with some things that are actually productive, feel free to come and join me, as, you know, he did with some of the Tory MPs turning up to the independent rape gang trial, right?
01:06:53.520Something Farage had promised but didn't do.
01:06:55.180Yeah. So that's, you know, obviously a good thing from Rupert.
01:06:59.240And Lewis Brackpull is quite right here where he says,0.96
01:07:02.180Zia, this all sounds well and good on paper, but the sentiment applies to restore Britain, not reform UK.
01:07:07.580How can you honestly post this when you're the same party that's been absorbed by the establishment?0.98
01:07:12.120And it's absolutely true. So reform can adopt, restores rhetoric, but they can't wear it authentically. And the other thing is as well, even if they think that, oh, well, maybe by posturing to the right again, which we never had to do and left to our own devices, we showed ourselves to be more of the same.
01:07:30.660But even if we do that, you're not going to claw back those 9% of voters because they're either made up of people who originally wanted to join reform, like Beau or Dan, and you decided were untenable, even though they're perfectly sensible, decent gentlemen.
01:07:46.500Sorry, another thing. Nigel said he would be to the left of the Tories come the next election on immigration.
01:07:52.200Yeah, I believe him too, but why would you say it? Jesus Christ. So yeah, honestly, just mad. Absolutely mad.
01:08:00.660And the other thing as well, this isn't really relevant to the GB News interview, but whilst a lot of the Scottish MPs and people are going around campaigning at the moment because of the elections that are going to be going on there, you have the guy who's the head of reform in Scotland.
01:08:16.260And he's just coming out and just saying, oh, no, I'm still for the legals and everything.
01:12:03.080But one thing as well I just want to draw attention to is that there is a real possibility,
01:12:08.100and I believe it truly, that Restore Britain can just outright win the next election.
01:12:12.020And that we actually, in a first-past-the-post system, are actually uniquely positioned to win it in a way that other patriotic European parties simply aren't right now because they always have these grand coalitions of traitors spawning in against them.
01:12:27.180And I actually think that if Britain can lead the way and actually show some actual patriotic policy in Europe and where, I mean, just going off of this alone, obviously, yes, millions must go and millions will go purely by this criteria alone.
01:12:43.720And my goodness, I will not be able to wait to see, you know, those in particular who, you know, do the TikToks waving the passports as of, ha, can't touch us now.
01:24:53.340peter perr come on this is a this is supposed to be a political ad come on give me something here
01:25:02.160just stoic silence such brilliance i see it now
01:25:08.960bet you're sick of seeing cats at this point after this weekend aren't you samson
01:25:16.260the thing about agricultural robots is that they already exist
01:25:22.540they're called tractors and their attachments seriously though if humanoid robots were as
01:25:28.940available as folks claim some e-thought would have already used one to make adult content by now
01:25:34.860this footage is a program running in a loop to control my mech's motors
01:25:39.480while robots for fun and entertainment are certainly possible
01:25:43.320it's a bit harder actually making them useful
01:25:46.180it's very cool can you make optimus prime next i'd really love to see that
01:25:52.100common argument i see for immigration is that they're saying well without them we wouldn't
01:25:59.300be able to build anything where would your infrastructure go and i can't help but note1.00
01:26:03.060But that with the ever-increasing number of immigrants, it seems like manufacturing and infrastructure seems to go down with the ever-increasing numbers of them.1.00
01:26:11.820It's actually very counterintuitive.1.00
01:26:13.180You're having a situation where the population is going up, but the industry is going down across every level.
01:26:20.780I mean, if it helps, Britain have the same problem as Ireland here.