The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1418

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to podcast of the Lotus Eaters.

00:00:03.460 It is episode 1418, I shall say no more.

00:00:06.600 It is Thursday the 14th of May, year of our Lord, 2026.

00:00:12.180 I'm joined by Farras.

00:00:13.180 Hello.

00:00:13.840 And special guest, Harrison Piers.

00:00:16.140 Thank you for coming in.

00:00:17.620 Pleasure.

00:00:18.200 So today we're going to be talking about Starmer's banning people again.

00:00:21.820 Yes.

00:00:22.220 As he likes to do.

00:00:23.680 We're going to talk about, you know, can the British state actually even be governed?

00:00:26.500 because there's this whole Labour leadership thing going on,

00:00:30.100 but frankly, it doesn't really matter

00:00:31.740 because the country is ungovernable

00:00:33.840 with a set of assumptions it rests on.

00:00:36.140 And how control is breaking down.

00:00:39.140 Yes.

00:00:39.320 Yes, thank you for that.

00:00:40.300 That's very good.

00:00:41.420 So why don't you tell us about the bans?

00:00:44.440 Yeah, so firstly, before we kick off,

00:00:46.740 I wanted to remind everybody of the Breakfast with Beau show

00:00:49.680 that you can find episodes of on YouTube

00:00:53.040 and obviously on our own website.

00:00:55.440 Please go and check it out.

00:00:58.800 And there seems to be a bunch of protests planned in London

00:01:02.120 that have made the government a little bit nervous, you see,

00:01:05.220 because there is going to be the Unite the Kingdom rally

00:01:09.420 by Tommy Robinson, led by Tommy Robinson, on the 16th.

00:01:13.380 So that's two days from today.

00:01:17.400 But there is also a pro-Palestine Nakba Day rally 0.97

00:01:24.000 where a bunch of, yes, so a bunch of lefties and Muslims

00:01:28.380 and assorted others are going to join together

00:01:31.820 to protest in support of the Palestinians

00:01:34.300 and against the State of Israel.

00:01:38.980 And there is also the FA Cup happening

00:01:42.340 on pretty much the same day.

00:01:44.700 And I think it's Chelsea versus Manchester City,

00:01:47.120 if I'm not mistaken,

00:01:49.200 meaning that London is going to be a little bit of a nightmare.

00:01:53.500 Well, police are going to be a bit stretched then, aren't they?

00:01:55.380 Ever so slightly.

00:01:56.540 Ever so slightly.

00:01:57.860 Now, the reporting from the media is that the last Unite the Kingdom rally had 150,000 people.

00:02:05.900 We know that that's a lie.

00:02:07.160 But they always massively count those things.

00:02:08.980 Yes.

00:02:09.240 And the police are sending around 4,000 or 5,000 officers to keep the peace.

00:02:18.260 The issue seems to be that first, the attendance from GB News, they're estimating 750,000 people.

00:02:30.660 And the issue seems to be that the, you know, the various government bodies that are in charge of policing speech have decided that they're going to ban a lot of people.

00:02:46.640 with a focus on banning speakers that have gone to Tommy Robinson rallies.

00:02:51.940 I had wanted to mention that even though Tommy visited Israel a couple of times,

00:02:57.120 the Jewish community in the United Kingdom protested against his visits

00:03:02.200 and said that they had crossed the line that, you know,

00:03:05.400 Tommy Robinson is a far-right thug and he shouldn't be there.

00:03:09.760 But here he is being protested by the activists. 0.86

00:03:12.280 They don't want going.

00:03:14.240 The Jewish groups don't like Tommy Robinson going to Israel, yes.

00:03:17.700 Oh, right. 1.00

00:03:18.560 Which is something that deserves mention.

00:03:21.620 Are you in the restore team going to Israel for the trip?

00:03:24.240 No.

00:03:24.740 Right.

00:03:25.520 Okay.

00:03:25.880 I don't think so.

00:03:28.920 So Starmer has decided that he's going to ban a bunch of people from attending

00:03:33.960 to sort of highlight that free speech is alive and well in Britain.

00:03:39.520 and several influencers who are supposed to speak

00:03:44.280 are going to be kicked out.

00:03:45.880 Now, it has to be said that the quality of some of the speakers

00:03:48.940 that have been invited...

00:03:50.740 Well, that's quality, and that's quality.

00:03:53.140 Well, Eva, no objections to her, 0.99

00:03:56.040 but say, you know, someone like this lady here, 1.00

00:04:01.340 whatever her name is... 0.94

00:04:02.460 Oh, no, that's the one that Carl got into a Twitter spat. 0.88

00:04:05.840 A lot of them are just vulgar loudmouths,

00:04:08.380 but not much to say. 0.70

00:04:09.060 That's exactly what I would say.

00:04:10.560 But there is quality there.

00:04:11.640 I mean, I know she got into an argument with the boss man,

00:04:13.980 but there's still quality.

00:04:15.160 I mean, you're thinking on different parameters there.

00:04:17.840 I will say a good word for Eva Vladdingebrook, though.

00:04:20.340 Exactly.

00:04:20.640 Oh, yes.

00:04:21.440 As well as being a pretty young girl,

00:04:23.200 she was trained by legal philosopher Andres Kinnerhung

00:04:28.600 at the University of Leiden.

00:04:30.360 So she has a thing or two to say.

00:04:33.120 She's a serious person.

00:04:34.000 Serious person.

00:04:34.700 You do policy at the store, don't you?

00:04:37.360 Can we have a policy that the quality gets in?

00:04:39.500 The L.E.G. policy.

00:04:40.400 Yes.

00:04:41.420 I mean, I'm not going to vote for Restore anyway,

00:04:44.100 but I will definitely vote for Restore if that's the policy.

00:04:46.740 You want to do some volunteer work, you can write the paper yourself, Dan.

00:04:50.480 Please don't do that.

00:04:51.860 You'll regret it.

00:04:52.920 You'll regret it.

00:04:53.380 No, I'm on the case.

00:04:54.900 There is another guy who said that, you know,

00:04:58.020 all rape cases have become fake

00:04:59.820 because Trump was somehow falsely convicted of something that he didn't do.

00:05:04.500 um okay you don't want that caliber but um the bans are interesting because there's a couple

00:05:12.340 things here starmer said that he was going to do them but then the um and and indeed the bans had

00:05:20.000 begun before starmer's announcement with in miss gomez's case but then the five pillars crowd the

00:05:27.740 basically the muslim lobby decided that they were going to speak up and they decided that they were

00:05:34.300 going to take credit for the bans affecting the Tommy Robinson rally, which I thought was a bit of

00:05:41.320 a interesting take. Is that credible? Because if we've got a Muslim organization, which are

00:05:49.180 literally calling themselves the fifth column, which are saying we are stopping people who 0.73

00:05:55.540 support the natives from getting into the country while literal headchoppers are getting invited

00:06:01.120 to Downing Street.

00:06:03.800 Well, that feels like a problem to me.

00:06:05.800 It might be a bit of an issue.

00:06:07.780 Yes.

00:06:08.320 It might be a bit of an issue, yes.

00:06:11.120 This is one of the editors of Five Pillars,

00:06:14.960 a very, you know,

00:06:17.460 it's the Muslim News Network, essentially.

00:06:19.860 And they're saying that they were responsible

00:06:22.120 for the bans affecting the Tommy Robinson rally.

00:06:25.640 And they were bragging about it, it seems.

00:06:27.940 and then he goes further and he says that since some of the speakers who were banned were going

00:06:36.320 to speak via video link he describes the attendees as hordes of racists and islamophobes

00:06:43.940 thank you the police and the authorities should also ban this and hold robinson accountable

00:06:51.600 and responsible if any of these hate mongers

00:06:55.080 appear and commit any offences.

00:06:58.040 Now, British speech laws are quite tight.

00:07:01.100 And there's a lot of things that you can't say

00:07:03.200 without risking being arrested.

00:07:04.900 And so this gentleman here is calling essentially

00:07:07.900 for more censorship on people abroad

00:07:10.940 and for Tommy Robinson to be held responsible for this.

00:07:14.820 And lo and behold,

00:07:17.100 it seems that the Met Police is going to obey

00:07:19.820 because the organizers will be held responsible,

00:07:27.960 according to the Met Police, for unlawful speech.

00:07:31.500 Not content to replace us in our own home.

00:07:34.880 They also insist that we're on our best behavior as they do so.

00:07:38.200 Yes.

00:07:39.000 How these things tend to work these days.

00:07:40.540 Yes.

00:07:40.820 I'll also make a quick point about one of the ironies that I see here.

00:07:45.340 Because civic nationalism insists on reducing nations to sets of values, it's actually very

00:07:52.120 suicidal when you think about it, because it means that we are duty bound to defend abstractions

00:07:55.800 instead of ourselves. We have to write ourselves out of the story and all of a sudden a sort of

00:07:59.660 platonic set of values become, like defending those becomes patriotism rather than defending

00:08:04.300 ourselves becomes patriotism. And so this is in many ways an inevitability once you are wedded

00:08:08.820 to a civic nationalist conception of the nation. People, outsiders who are actually very friendly

00:08:14.220 to the natives have to be shunned because they are not sufficiently wedded and faithful to the

00:08:21.060 value system. To the very abstract value system that only applies in one direction. Because the 1.00

00:08:27.740 thing to note here, I think, is that firstly, there is going to be full-on two-tier policing.

00:08:35.380 The police are going to be deploying facial recognition cameras at the Unite the Kingdom

00:08:40.300 rally, they will not be deploying it at the pro-Palestine rally.

00:08:44.680 Really?

00:08:45.400 Yes.

00:08:45.880 Oh, right.

00:08:46.700 Okay.

00:08:46.960 According to the Times.

00:08:48.560 According to the Times.

00:08:49.980 And the Times is, you know, in terms of mainstream journalism, it's pretty much as credible as

00:08:54.080 it gets.

00:08:54.740 They might actually have to catch somebody if they take it to the Palestine rally.

00:08:58.120 That's the problem.

00:08:59.440 That's really the problem.

00:09:00.580 Yeah.

00:09:01.580 And it's worth remembering that, you know, we had Kanye West banned for his hate speech

00:09:07.440 against Jews and for his artistic endeavors that were less than tasteful, shall we say.

00:09:14.720 This was fully endorsed by the Board of Deputies, and it was welcome that it was advocated for by 0.94

00:09:19.520 the Board of Deputies. But what, and now the Americans are trying to make a big case out of

00:09:25.100 this and to get, you know, Trump to intervene as this is a free speech case. But I would say that

00:09:31.680 with the Trump administration's record on policing some speech, it may or may not be a great idea to

00:09:37.700 get them involved. But this is happening at a time when the government is actually welcoming

00:09:43.400 the ISIS returnees, shall we call them, from Syria. Yes. And is refusing to say whether or not

00:09:53.140 the ISIS returnees are being arrested. And the case that's being made for the bans on the Tommy

00:09:59.140 Robinson rally are that it is, that the presence of these individuals is not conducive to the 0.60

00:10:05.640 public good, but we are meant to pretend that bringing back literal ISIS fighters and their

00:10:12.540 families is conducive to the public good, and that this is a transparent standard. So when somebody

00:10:21.360 attacks the Jewish community, he's banned. When somebody is accused of Islamophobia, he's banned.

00:10:26.500 And ISIS head troppers are not banned. 0.95

00:10:30.440 Yeah, but they cut off the heads of Christians, so that doesn't offend the state. 0.84

00:10:35.240 That seems to be the case.

00:10:36.880 I mean, I'm struggling to come up with a benevolent administrative explanation for this.

00:10:43.860 They just denaturalized a British gentleman for living in Russia.

00:10:48.000 He's a football commentator, I believe.

00:10:49.720 He's an ex-police officer who's now a football commentator.

00:10:52.480 Not exactly very threatening.

00:10:55.240 I tend not to be overly concerned about running into a football commentator on the street. 0.88

00:11:02.320 I am concerned about running into an ISIS head shopper on the street. 0.63

00:11:06.080 Well, I mean, it's what Harrison said.

00:11:07.820 I mean, they have walked themselves so far down the path of this restrictive ideology.

00:11:13.800 But, I mean, it's...

00:11:15.460 It's national erasure.

00:11:16.920 Yeah, and it's...

00:11:18.200 The philosophy of the state is how do we erase the nation over which we govern?

00:11:23.180 But the original sentiment behind it was something like, let's address historical imbalances,

00:11:29.520 whether you think that's true or not, but let's address historical balances and let's put in place

00:11:34.260 a process by which we make sure that whatever are not discriminated against. And the majority

00:11:41.440 population is like 98% of the country, so it doesn't really matter. But all of that has lost 0.87

00:11:46.420 sight as time has marched on. And now this process is just a self-reinforcing mechanism that could

00:11:51.240 only ever drive stronger and stronger to replace the british and um yeah champion anyone who raise

00:11:59.820 their values raise their religion yes and this is supposed to be a good thing yeah but it also it's

00:12:06.940 also quite telling that you know it's clearly clearly the system um and including the the

00:12:12.160 value system of our elites plays a plays a huge role in this the administrative system as well

00:12:17.340 as a value system. But individual motivations do matter in that picture too, because people

00:12:23.580 will readily reach for these bits of primary legislation, like the 1981 Nationality Act,

00:12:27.820 which has that clause, or might be 83, but which has that clause about permission to

00:12:32.860 denaturalise if conducive to the public good. Operatives within the British state are perfectly

00:12:39.080 happy to draw from stuff they need when something they really care about is at risk.

00:12:44.540 Because if we win, that's a useful precedent to have.

00:12:48.120 I'm aware of it, Dan.

00:12:48.960 Yes.

00:12:50.080 You've given that some thought.

00:12:51.240 Good.

00:12:52.900 And, you know, here you see questions about things that are conducive to the public good.

00:12:59.940 You had some event in Birmingham, which my understanding is, I could be mistaken about this,

00:13:04.640 they didn't get planning permission and they took over some kind of playground and set up food stalls.

00:13:11.020 But then there was a big protest because they were selling alcohol.

00:13:14.540 Yeah. And you have to wonder...

00:13:18.720 Sorry, was that just such a thick Birmingham accent that I didn't hear it?

00:13:39.720 Or is that like Bangladeshi or something?

00:13:41.780 I think he's speaking in Bangla.

00:13:45.020 Yes.

00:13:45.440 Right.

00:13:46.240 And protesting in Bangla over an event in Birmingham.

00:13:51.880 And the question is, where is the public good here?

00:13:56.880 I mean, Andy Burnham is supposed to run in this constituency here.

00:14:01.040 I forgot in, where was it?

00:14:05.420 Rusholm.

00:14:06.960 Yes.

00:14:07.740 Rusholm.

00:14:08.080 Rusholm.

00:14:08.720 and you see here an argument between different strands of Pakistanis or Bangladeshis over

00:14:16.760 whether or not labor is supporting genocide and that's the deciding issue in the election

00:14:21.560 and the question has to be is this conducive to the public good um I I don't have a clear answer

00:14:29.500 um here you see the government writing a report on the welfare of women

00:14:35.320 Muslim women in particular. 1.00

00:14:37.280 Oh, okay. 1.00

00:14:39.580 But they refuse to touch the issue of head scars,

00:14:44.480 cousin marriages, sharia courts,

00:14:46.880 and female genital mutilation. 0.91

00:14:49.940 And you have to ask yourself, 0.71

00:14:51.420 well, is this conducive to the public good?

00:14:53.700 So basically, I mean, across the board,

00:14:56.640 the public good seems to be defined 0.99

00:14:58.820 as protecting anything that isn't British

00:15:02.200 without offending the minorities 1.00

00:15:04.020 that have the worst behavior. 1.00

00:15:07.120 Yes.

00:15:08.520 The idea is that the only real threat

00:15:10.900 to the public good can be the majority.

00:15:12.760 Yes, fundamentally.

00:15:13.800 And so like the public good gets reconceived

00:15:16.200 in minoritarian terms.

00:15:18.960 And of course, like minoritarian here

00:15:20.740 is not a numerical category so much as one about identity,

00:15:25.480 because if the host population of Britain

00:15:27.540 were to become a minority,

00:15:28.580 I can assure you that they wouldn't suddenly start

00:15:30.120 standing up for our interests.

00:15:31.640 it becomes very clear when you sort of just study the dynamics of world affairs a little,

00:15:36.760 that minoritarianism is only really a sort of temporary tactic used in Western societies until

00:15:42.980 their host majorities are reduced to minorities, because no one cares about the minority concerns

00:15:46.320 of, say, the Afrikaans. Exactly. So in terms of how it functions in global moral discourse, 0.88

00:15:52.520 it is inherently anti-white. Yes, and anti-Christian. And anti-Christian. 0.88

00:15:56.000 and then you see things like jury systems breaking apart yeah uh so the police brought

00:16:04.880 convictions brought charges or the prosecutors brought charges against magic freeman accusing

00:16:10.760 him of terrorism related charges but because it was a jury of his peers yeah they got stumped

00:16:19.680 and now they're going to go to retrial now we're not taking a view on whether or not the

00:16:24.240 allegations are valid, fair enough, but you constantly see this issue coming up

00:16:29.040 with juries where it's a headcount, it's an ethnic headcount. So many of our

00:16:34.500 institutions, including jury trials, were like were established in order to serve

00:16:38.160 a fair-weather, homogeneous, settled culture. And so once you, once those sort

00:16:42.160 of demographic givens are eroded, you can no longer count on these systems to

00:16:47.760 produce the fair systems that they were fine-tuned to produce, you know, centuries

00:16:52.380 ago well i mean i'm just quickly on that i read through a thread a thread that some american put

00:16:57.900 out on juries in the u.s and of course their their demographics are you know much worse than ours

00:17:02.640 yes and and they were giving dozens of examples of cases i mean one where uh um you know a a black 0.76

00:17:08.880 man had been going around raping and they they had him on cctv doing it they had the dna evidence

00:17:14.500 um and the jury which was majority black simply said between themselves and one of these guys was 0.98

00:17:19.560 on the trial he said well and the jury were saying amongst themselves there's too many black men in

00:17:22.860 prison so we're not going to convict him so yeah i mean it just all goes out the window it simply 1.00

00:17:28.160 becomes as you say an ethnic head count exactly this is one of my least favorite things about

00:17:31.880 the kind of go back to the 90s crowd people act as if the oj simpson trial didn't take place and

00:17:36.380 as if we don't have photographs of the verdict being announced on television in student dorms

00:17:42.620 where all of the white people in the dorm are like oh my goodness he's just been let off even 0.70

00:17:46.520 and the slam dunk case, and all of the black people 0.81

00:17:49.060 in the room are celebrating because they see it,

00:17:51.780 because for many non-Western groups,

00:17:55.820 morality is simply an extension of group interest.

00:17:57.920 It's not anything universalistic.

00:18:01.220 Obviously that's a bit of a generalization,

00:18:03.380 but it is one that explains much of the differences

00:18:06.760 that we see around the world.

00:18:07.760 It explains a lot of the evidence.

00:18:09.980 You know, it fits the evidence.

00:18:11.400 Fundamentally, as an Englishman,

00:18:12.440 I don't want to live in a country

00:18:13.320 where my children could be murdered

00:18:14.520 with completely no consequences.

00:18:16.520 That's not the country I want to live in.

00:18:18.360 And in terms of other things that are sort of falling apart, this is a story I haven't been able to verify it.

00:18:25.240 But it seems that in one of the council elections, there were three recounts.

00:18:35.080 The seat was lost by a total of six votes.

00:18:39.660 And at the third recount, seven votes were found going in the opposite way.

00:18:44.860 i i i'm not able to verify this completely it's in birmingham we we don't really know but this

00:18:52.280 is the kind of thing that's coming up and we do remember the issue with postal voting and how much

00:18:58.720 fraud there is in postal voting mainly from minority areas so there seems to be this theme

00:19:06.500 here of the state defining the public good in the narrowest term really along the interests of

00:19:15.060 ethnic minorities we should note at this point too that there is also something incredibly

00:19:18.320 inadequate about what center-right existence does does exist for this because um as a general

00:19:27.200 matter people like we're now at the point in our british british national life i would say where

00:19:32.840 people are calling out what they will often just kind of call, bluntly, sectarianism.

00:19:38.140 But what people fail to really appreciate is that sectarianism is a sort of second-order consequence

00:19:43.720 of living within a diverse society.

00:19:47.480 I can talk to you about this all day.

00:19:49.120 I bet you can.

00:19:50.220 But, you know, Lee Kuan Yew could too.

00:19:51.860 I mean, Lee Kuan Yew understood, even in a highly civilized country like Singapore,

00:19:56.820 that, look, where I think, you correct me if I'm wrong,

00:20:00.120 but I think there's a sort of still a Han majority of around 75% and a Malay minority,

00:20:05.100 and then a couple of other groups too. Like Lee Kuan Yew didn't want to sort of reverse that.

00:20:08.820 He understood that that was sort of just baked into the kind of country that Singapore was,

00:20:11.680 but he definitely wanted to mitigate it because he understood that if you, like once you have a

00:20:17.560 sort of fractured demographic mess on your hands, people no longer think in terms of what serves,

00:20:21.760 again, the public good in general, they basically just reconceive the public good as whatever serves

00:20:26.240 their own little minority interest and so it stands to reason that the more diverse our own

00:20:31.160 territories become the more we're going to see sectarian voting and if you're not willing to

00:20:34.180 call out the fundamental cause of that and indeed agitate to reverse that there's no point complaining 0.88

00:20:38.440 about the second order consequences it's just impotent and you may as well just tell them to

00:20:41.620 stop but they're not going to. Diversity implies that you have different values and different 0.88

00:20:45.440 identities and so you can't agree on what is a common good. You can agree on what is a common

00:20:51.740 good within your group you can't agree on a common good that encompasses all groups and the only way 0.70

00:20:58.120 to manage diversity is through very strict authoritarianism yes and the state is willing

00:21:03.920 to be very authoritarian in britain only against one group yes it's not willing to be in any way

00:21:11.620 authoritarian against the other groups because they don't even recognize this legitimacy

00:21:15.400 and so you get this kind of mess as a natural consequence well and being lebanese you know

00:21:22.260 exactly where that leads to yes eventually the it's it's interesting population has said we've

00:21:27.520 had enough yeah it's intermittent uh civil war chaos authoritarianism these are the three possible

00:21:35.000 states in a diverse society order by consent is the impossible state in a society no order by

00:21:43.740 consent is the key feature of the british political system and so it's meeting reality and it's not

00:21:50.580 working and it just goes on and on because here you have somebody complaining that look

00:21:55.720 there's been organized crime operating for 10 years and nobody's doing anything about this

00:22:00.720 oh yeah i see it but that's excluded from the definition of public goods and people are going

00:22:06.480 to trading standards and saying look this is obviously organized crime and 97 of workers in

00:22:11.900 trading standards

00:22:13.240 say that they know

00:22:14.140 of organized crime

00:22:14.900 on their streets

00:22:15.400 but they're helpless

00:22:16.620 to do anything about it

00:22:17.680 because it runs into

00:22:19.620 this unique

00:22:20.940 uniquely subversive

00:22:22.960 and destructive

00:22:23.560 definition of the

00:22:24.500 common good

00:22:24.980 which only looks

00:22:26.340 at the good 0.93

00:22:26.860 of the non-majority

00:22:28.420 groups

00:22:28.840 yep

00:22:32.040 and you have the 0.84

00:22:33.640 traitors getting ready

00:22:34.600 for the Tommy Robinson

00:22:35.620 rally

00:22:36.300 they are calling

00:22:38.900 for a protest

00:22:39.800 against his own

00:22:41.220 protest

00:22:42.460 Last time they assembled a grand total of 5,000 people

00:22:46.200 versus the, by official estimates, 150,000,

00:22:52.440 by unofficial estimates, several hundred thousands,

00:22:55.420 orders of magnitudes more.

00:22:57.960 Okay, they are always willing to put themselves at risk

00:23:01.560 for the benefit of people who absolutely hate them

00:23:03.760 and who will genuinely throw them off rooftops

00:23:06.580 if given a chance.

00:23:09.360 Armored police vehicles are going to be ready.

00:23:11.760 in anticipation of the violence there's a bit of mixed news when it comes to how the muslims are

00:23:17.840 taking all of this because on the one side they're asking is there a future for muslims in britain

00:23:24.800 and they are being advised to do one of two things either get ready to leave

00:23:32.480 or get ready to spread the dawah and to islamize the country

00:23:37.120 what does dawah translate as um calling people to the correct faith right and their belief does

00:23:46.740 it imply violence it's always borderline with islam dawah technically doesn't but 0.90

00:23:52.960 if you stop them from conducting dawah then violence is justified oh right okay so if yes 0.99

00:24:00.160 if you say actually we're not going to tolerate you advocating for veiling all women or for 0.98

00:24:06.840 banning this or that practice or what have you then you are interfering with their divinely 0.99

00:24:14.600 ordained right to dawah therefore you are a fighting infidel therefore you should be fought 0.97

00:24:19.320 i just love the advert on the side of this as well supporting muslim families against state 0.95

00:24:25.820 policies i mean the entire state is geared up to support muslim families yes and give them housing

00:24:31.840 in SW1 and in Zone 1 and so on and so forth.

00:24:36.000 But, you know, how dare you?

00:24:40.300 But there's presumably some money left

00:24:42.740 that hasn't been channeled in their direction.

00:24:45.420 Yes, yes, yes.

00:24:48.140 But the other side of it is bragging

00:24:50.760 that really in the council elections,

00:24:52.720 the election of sectarian candidates

00:24:55.200 was really a huge success

00:24:57.660 and Muslims should take heart 1.00

00:24:59.560 and they should double down.

00:25:00.880 and they should insist essentially on seeing this through

00:25:06.100 until their place in Britain is secure,

00:25:09.400 meaning that Britain is, yes, defeated.

00:25:14.900 So the lay of the land here, I mean,

00:25:16.780 they are being honest about this.

00:25:20.740 They're calling this a democratic awakening

00:25:22.380 and putting up photos of Jeremy Corbyn.

00:25:24.460 But you will notice that Jeremy Corbyn is like Waldo here.

00:25:28.940 Yes. 0.90

00:25:29.460 Well, this is one of the ironies of multiculturalism, as defined probably best by Roy Jenkins in the 60s when he was Home Secretary. When in many ways, he was actually very realistic about human nature. He said, we don't want a flattening process. It's impossible to get going. This is what Roy Jenkins said in the 60s. A flattening process of assimilation that turns everyone into a carbon copy of an Englishman.

00:25:52.160 What we want instead is for groups brought here, immigrant populations brought here, this is what Roy Jenkins himself said, to cleave to their own national cultures within Britain, but within an atmosphere, these are all of a sudden the very strict terms of engagement, but in an atmosphere of mutual tolerance and understanding. That's what Roy Jenkins said.

00:26:09.240 Oh, that's a good idea. Did it work?

00:26:11.080 We're going to find out, Daniel.

00:26:13.200 But the point I would make here is that once a group that has been admitted

00:26:18.520 to the National Home on those liberal terms,

00:26:23.240 as a result of such soft-touch liberalism becomes a majority,

00:26:28.040 they no longer have any reason to play second fiddle

00:26:30.640 to lily-livered multiculturalists like Roy Jenkins. 0.90

00:26:33.580 So simply to admit a guess to the House on your own terms 0.74

00:26:38.380 is no long-run guarantee of long-run charge of the household. 0.74

00:26:42.240 And I think multiculturalists are going to learn that in the coming decades

00:26:44.360 if we don't do our best.

00:26:47.620 It should be slightly obvious right now.

00:26:49.060 You'd have thought so.

00:26:49.980 It's becoming more and more obvious.

00:26:51.440 It sounds much less paranoid than it perhaps would have done

00:26:53.940 if someone had lodged that objection to Jenkins in the 60s.

00:26:57.220 Yes.

00:26:58.300 And so you see them bragging here about Lutf al-Rahman of Tower Hamlets,

00:27:02.580 one of the most corrupt boroughs in London. 0.96

00:27:06.840 how he extended his majority

00:27:09.500 and kicked out more people of Labour

00:27:12.360 and whatever was left of the Conservatives.

00:27:14.840 In Newham, basically,

00:27:17.040 they took half the council

00:27:19.080 from absolutely nothing.

00:27:23.360 Newham is the most diverse ward in all of London. 1.00

00:27:27.020 If by diverse, we mean least white. 0.97

00:27:29.220 Yes, that's exactly what it means. 0.64

00:27:32.200 Which is exactly what it means.

00:27:33.120 Again, functionally in our discourse,

00:27:34.300 there are perfectly colourblind meanings

00:27:36.440 of um like in the abstract there are perfectly colorblind meanings of diversity if i were to

00:27:40.220 you know add more pasty lads from northumbria to like rap music i would be making it more diverse

00:27:44.900 but no one agitates for that kind of diversity so i mean i mean on the on the christopher nolan

00:27:48.840 debate about how he's made he's casting africans as greek people yes um and and people have been

00:27:54.800 pointing out the reason he's doing that is because you literally cannot win an oscar unless your cast

00:27:58.620 is diverse and then i look back over the best pictures and one of them is parasite which was

00:28:03.280 a south korean film where literally everyone in it was south korean there was no diversity

00:28:09.740 whatsoever no there was perfect diversity yeah yeah but there was actually total diversity there

00:28:14.940 was because there was no actual operative meaning of the word as opposed to in the abstract meaning

00:28:20.160 of the word there was perfect diversity that's exactly right and uh i really don't see this

00:28:26.640 getting better uh tommy robinson's rally is going to be held anyway despite the various bands

00:28:32.460 despite the very obvious, very blatant redefining

00:28:36.120 of the public interest.

00:28:37.880 He is, as always, adamant that this should be peaceful,

00:28:41.840 disciplined, don't give the media what they want,

00:28:44.300 don't be aggressive, don't fight with the police.

00:28:45.820 They're just making him stronger with all of this.

00:28:47.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:48.080 Don't wear face masks, unlike what we're going to see

00:28:51.060 in a lot of the Palestine protests.

00:28:55.020 But the point of this segment is that these guys have

00:29:00.700 basically decided that their enemy is the British public.

00:29:06.020 The state has decided that the enemy is the public.

00:29:09.800 And it is redefining basic ideas like national interest,

00:29:14.080 the public good, etc., to fit that definition.

00:29:17.880 And it's obvious from everything that they do,

00:29:20.200 from the bans of the Tommy Robinson speakers

00:29:22.480 to the Kanye West bans, etc., etc.

00:29:25.720 This is not an endorsement of any of the speakers

00:29:28.200 or of Kanye or of anything like that.

00:29:30.700 But this is pointing to a very blatant double standard

00:29:33.600 that is showing up in the way the police is behaving

00:29:36.740 and that is showing up in pretty much everything in British life.

00:29:42.380 Anyway.

00:29:43.160 Yeah, absolutely right.

00:29:44.640 That is the segment.

00:29:47.100 That's a Random Name says,

00:29:48.460 the betrayal of nations will continue until either Restore wins and saves the nation

00:29:52.620 or the elections gets fortified and things turn medieval.

00:29:59.580 Yeah, fair enough.

00:30:00.700 I don't have a problem with these groups

00:30:03.120 acting in their interests.

00:30:04.460 My problem is that only we aren't allowed

00:30:06.700 because the last time we did, we conquered the world.

00:30:13.040 I've repeatedly raised the concept of modern exile.

00:30:16.800 Well, that's a different conversation.

00:30:19.580 As with everything leftist and liberal,

00:30:21.480 conducive to the public good in their interpretation 0.97

00:30:23.320 just means destroy English European people at every step 0.74

00:30:26.240 and benefit everyone else. 1.00

00:30:27.740 Yeah, kind of.

00:30:30.700 And that's, we shall see.

00:30:33.700 So the Labour leadership crisis is hotting up.

00:30:38.820 I was going to take you through, you know, the front pages of the newspaper,

00:30:42.880 which were all going to show that, you know,

00:30:45.460 apparently Wes Streeting is on the verge of resigning.

00:30:48.840 But Samson, our producer, was waving at me through the window a few moments ago

00:30:53.680 to tell me that he has actually done it.

00:30:55.840 And there we go.

00:30:56.980 He's added a link for it.

00:30:58.120 So West Streeting has actually now resigned.

00:31:03.580 So I'm seeing this for the first time.

00:31:05.640 Blah, blah, blah.

00:31:06.220 The NHS is really good.

00:31:07.560 I did loads of good stuff at the NHS.

00:31:09.380 Aren't I good for running the NHS?

00:31:13.800 The NHS is in a horrific state.

00:31:18.920 Blah, blah, blah.

00:31:19.700 Government is unpopular.

00:31:21.560 Reform or nationalists, as he calls them, are winning elections.

00:31:25.720 Starmer doesn't have what it's take.

00:31:27.340 he wants a leadership election which is going to um basically bring everybody in um blah blah blah

00:31:35.200 aren't i great right okay fine so anyway that's what that's what he says um so yes it's on

00:31:42.540 are we excited chaps

00:31:45.460 doesn't change my life no it doesn't really does it i mean is west streeting going to make

00:31:54.300 is mandelson's other protege going to do anything beneficial no no is it no that i mean that's

00:32:02.240 kind of my point of the segment it's not gonna make a damn difference to any of it um interestingly

00:32:07.660 angela rayner on the key day hmrc after having done nothing for three months suddenly decided

00:32:15.560 to open the file and immediately found the done nothing wrong stamp slapped it all over it and

00:32:20.280 handed it back again it has to be said this investigation has been going on since what

00:32:24.840 october november something like something yeah months and months and months and the today's the

00:32:30.180 day it is did she receive the advice that she says she received which presumably came in the

00:32:37.380 form of an email that she could have sent and said actually yes this is the advice that she received

00:32:42.880 it was bad advice she still owes that much money yeah that that is how much investigation was

00:32:49.460 required i mean i could look into it but i can't be bothered it's there's going to be some long

00:32:53.800 winded bloody justification the point is oh yeah let's just chuck her into the mix and exactly

00:32:58.560 they waited until after the election yes to give her the all clear and then as things got really

00:33:06.960 heated all of a sudden yeah why not just chuck angela rayner into that yeah absolutely maybe use

00:33:13.140 her to terrify the markets consolidate support for for kia who knows kia is actually more popular 1.00

00:33:18.480 than West Street.

00:33:19.220 Yes, we come to that.

00:33:20.920 I mean, very quick detail.

00:33:22.700 Angela the Fridge Rainer, Big Bird, 1.00

00:33:25.580 she's been getting loads of money 0.97

00:33:27.460 literally from a fridge company,

00:33:29.180 which is ironic considering her nickname.

00:33:32.720 But basically, she's had a Labour leadership

00:33:36.420 war chest being built. 0.98

00:33:38.520 There's that.

00:33:40.260 Keir Starmer is backing Andy Burnham

00:33:42.060 for Labour leadership.

00:33:45.700 Admittedly, that is an old tweet,

00:33:47.780 but um okay i think he's i think he's probably gonna stand in it isn't he isn't he uh here is

00:33:55.380 going to hold on with everything he's got well i mean he's been waiting since he was a teenager

00:34:00.200 the man has no soul he doesn't dream he doesn't have hobbies he doesn't have it well apart from

00:34:04.920 cranium boys but there's nothing that the sparks of the fire in his soul apart from

00:34:11.180 um controlling all of us he's been waiting his whole life to do it he's hardly gonna

00:34:14.960 give up now um this is another link which you uh which you pointed my way um let's have a look at

00:34:21.960 this so who actually does well in a labor leadership well it's andy burnham and angela

00:34:27.740 rayner isn't it yes right fair enough and the only reason andy burnham's so popular is because he

00:34:33.220 isn't a minister if he if he'd been a minister for the last two years everybody would hate him

00:34:37.500 just as much as everybody else pretty much it's we just got this notion that he's untainted

00:34:42.500 by the shadowy fingers of corruption.

00:34:46.860 That's about it.

00:34:47.560 I mean, what it shows you is that actually being involved

00:34:51.220 at the frontline level is the thing that completely discredits you

00:34:55.520 because you are seen as the problem.

00:34:59.860 Yes.

00:35:00.660 And as soon as he takes over, he just becomes unpopular as everybody else.

00:35:03.480 Exactly.

00:35:03.840 In my view, the major difficulty that Labour has

00:35:06.160 is that they haven't really had a visionary leader

00:35:08.640 capable of thinking beyond the managerial textbook since Blair himself.

00:35:12.500 And I know this is, by many people, this is considered strange because Blair, in many ways, established our kind of post-97 managerial system, the blob and all the rest of it.

00:35:21.180 But in order to establish a managerial system, you actually have to have quite a bit of creativity.

00:35:26.140 But once you hand that system over to caretakers, as it were, rather than visionaries, all of a sudden, people lack creativity.

00:35:34.400 So I think there, you're thinking too in the moment.

00:35:38.640 And actually, when I lay out my case, you agree with me that actually it's that the surplus have been spent, effectively.

00:35:45.060 Let me lay out my argument.

00:35:46.460 So this is my sort of pinned tweet, which I like to bring up every now and again because it is a work of genius.

00:35:52.400 Is this recent or is this old?

00:35:53.840 No, this is my old pinned tweet.

00:35:56.560 Basically, what I lay out in here is that Britain isn't really a democracy anymore.

00:36:00.580 It is a credentialed waiting compliance system.

00:36:03.780 You know, the state doesn't govern.

00:36:05.800 It just processes risk.

00:36:06.920 you know the parliament is basically just a signaling layer it's not a decision making layer

00:36:11.240 um you know just decisions are actually made by by real constraints the bond market

00:36:16.860 international legal rules that it signed up to all that kind of stuff and all and parliament is

00:36:21.880 basically just laundering the decisions that get made by this mechanism that's been in place for

00:36:26.500 decades now through it um britain is governed by assumptions that can't be named you know things

00:36:31.980 like you know we cannot benefit natives you know what you were saying um you know we can't let the

00:36:37.400 bond yields get too out of control although that's happening anyway um you know the real

00:36:42.640 constraints are statistical not written it's it's all of those things it's legal harmonization and

00:36:47.520 it's bond yields and elections barely matter with this so i mean i put that out a while ago

00:36:52.240 and i mean just just in the context of all this stuff um you know we we're gonna have to go through

00:36:59.760 the whole palaver about oh who's going to make a better leader but it won't make any bloody

00:37:05.120 difference because you know satisfaction with whoever you get just does this it's because the

00:37:11.440 system itself instantly collapse yes my i suppose but my point is consistent with yours though

00:37:16.100 isn't it because i'm saying that a visionary person would in principle be able to make tweaks

00:37:20.260 i don't i don't think even a vision well what you don't you think you think it is in principle

00:37:24.800 unchangeable unless you change the unless you're willing to change the underlying assumption so if

00:37:30.700 by visionary you mean they're going to tear up the structures of which this system is run on

00:37:35.700 yes okay in which case yes we agree and they're all caretaker managers whereas Blair is actually

00:37:40.040 a visionary because in order my point is that in order to establish this mechanistic system which

00:37:44.920 once established can run without any real guidance you just need caretaker managers to take it over

00:37:51.140 and what i'm saying is a perfect example he's perfect and they all are like they are all

00:37:55.440 none of them actually they all built anything to change this they're all built out of the

00:37:59.720 caretaker mold and therefore therefore that's what i mean when i say it won't make any difference

00:38:02.960 to my life they all basically have the same assumptions basically have the same views

00:38:06.260 they vary if at all only in terms of the pragmatic constraints okay so which case we agree we are

00:38:11.500 saying that starma is the perfect avatar for this system because his job is to manage basically what

00:38:17.400 was supposed to be a stable post-90s system yes that was also the job of cameron and may and

00:38:23.060 johnson and they played that fulfilled their role perfectly cameron strengthened the administrative

00:38:29.320 state he further liberalized the system theresa may imposed net zero and the madness of net zero

00:38:35.920 yes and johnson went much further than blair in terms of you know more somalians means more gdp

00:38:44.320 yes it's a good thing they will and by the way they've also re redefined making any changes to

00:38:49.480 this system through will or through power as fascism yes yes and so like and to be fair like

00:38:55.960 this i mean schmidt you see this is what schmidt means when he says the sovereign is he who desires

00:38:59.380 the state of exception you need you need to be a visionary person in order to decide the state of

00:39:02.500 exception and and given that politics has effectively been equated with fascism and

00:39:07.580 anti-politics and anti-politics has been equated with the rule of law or the smooth running of

00:39:13.080 this not-so-Rolls-Royce system, they find themselves in a bit of a moral bind.

00:39:16.560 Yeah, so actually, no, we do agree. Because, I mean, what I'm basically saying with all of this

00:39:21.140 is that Labour's crisis is not ideology as to whether they go to the left or the right.

00:39:26.720 What I'm saying is it's actually a thermodynamics problem. They've run out of growth. There's too

00:39:31.760 much debt. There's too much welfare dependency. There's too many rules. There's all of these things.

00:39:36.140 People forget how much of Blair's growth was driven by low interest rates and debt.

00:39:39.440 Yes. Excellent point.

00:39:41.560 They forget that the Blair boom came mainly from historically low American interest rates under Alan Greenspan and open-door immigration, which led to a housing boom.

00:39:53.680 Everybody felt richer.

00:39:55.140 They spent more.

00:39:56.440 The economy did grow, but it didn't grow in productive capacity.

00:40:00.740 So, I mean, would you both agree with me that Britain's problem at the moment is effectively negative sovereignty?

00:40:06.800 Yes.

00:40:07.220 In that everybody gets to say no.

00:40:10.140 Exactly.

00:40:10.460 nobody is saying yes to anything nobody's making anything happen pretty much yeah yeah that's the

00:40:15.800 anti-politics you speak of yes and obviously there's no such touch the system otherwise you're

00:40:20.000 a fascist if you touch the system that's it it it's not yes and obviously philosophically there

00:40:25.620 is actually no such thing as anti-politics because it is itself a political view to say that we need

00:40:29.840 to establish an anti-political system so but but but that aside yeah because i mean ultimately when

00:40:35.880 you look at when you look at these different characters i mean what they're saying so i mean

00:40:38.940 In the West Streeting, we started off talking about him.

00:40:41.480 The West Streeting line is basically the Blairite line,

00:40:43.860 which is we can govern if markets trust us, right?

00:40:47.520 But you run out of surplus.

00:40:49.880 You know, they can see that you run out of surplus.

00:40:52.080 Your welfare dependency is too high.

00:40:53.760 Bond yields are going to continue to grow.

00:40:55.420 So he's wrong.

00:40:56.740 Rayner is effectively saying that Britain can be governed

00:40:59.400 if Labour feels socially coherent again.

00:41:02.660 And that's what she's kind of pinning it on.

00:41:05.200 She reckons she can do that.

00:41:06.320 How do you get social coherence and diversity?

00:41:08.280 You can't.

00:41:08.620 It is literally a binary choice.

00:41:10.620 It's a binary choice.

00:41:11.820 Yes.

00:41:12.540 You can have social cohesion, you can have diversity,

00:41:14.080 you can have book.

00:41:14.500 Yeah.

00:41:15.300 But human nature is also fascist.

00:41:17.540 Yes, that as well.

00:41:19.600 I am a fan of human nature.

00:41:21.860 And then Andy Burnham,

00:41:23.180 who's supposed to be the great hope of this,

00:41:24.600 I mean, he's effectively saying that Britain can be governed

00:41:27.440 if legitimacy comes from outside Westminster.

00:41:30.320 So it's this kind of escape fantasy.

00:41:32.580 But the moment he goes inside Westminster,

00:41:35.520 he's just going to get tainted of all of that.

00:41:37.020 So there is absolute – this leadership election genuinely does not matter.

00:41:43.260 No.

00:41:44.040 At all.

00:41:45.280 Unless, like you say, you get somebody who is willing to rip up

00:41:48.160 all of the governing assumptions that this country operates on

00:41:51.380 and install new ones, which is quite a big task.

00:41:54.300 Do you know anyone like that?

00:41:57.500 I'll come to think of it.

00:41:58.920 I was texting him on the train.

00:42:01.820 But, yeah, we need people with vision.

00:42:04.740 We need people with imagination.

00:42:05.700 and not those who are going to outsource decision-making to some...

00:42:09.560 And with courage and integrity.

00:42:10.900 Indeed, yes.

00:42:11.660 You have to look at the system with a sense of courage and integrity,

00:42:15.600 say that this is broken,

00:42:16.840 and that it's meant to serve a different set of people

00:42:19.060 than it's currently serving.

00:42:22.060 That's right.

00:42:22.700 We need charisma, leadership.

00:42:24.480 We need virtue.

00:42:25.620 These sort of more old-fashioned things are going to be necessary

00:42:28.260 to the restoration of richness.

00:42:29.520 And the thing I liked about your chap's sort of opening video

00:42:32.540 is the bit where he says it's going to be extremely painful.

00:42:34.900 That's what I want to hear, because the problem is not necessarily

00:42:38.240 a lack of democracy, it's a lack of consequence.

00:42:41.000 Nobody carries consequence anymore, because everything is a process.

00:42:45.140 Everything is farmed out to some secondary constraint

00:42:47.600 that sits outside Parliament, be it the bond markets

00:42:50.020 or international law, whatever it is.

00:42:51.840 There's just no consequence in the system anymore.

00:42:56.000 Fundamentally, the British state no longer has purpose.

00:43:00.520 you know if you to ask if you to ask any of these candidates

00:43:05.600 what is your purpose of governing i don't think a single one of them could tell you

00:43:10.900 apart from glib like throwaway lines you're saying protecting british values yeah it'd be

00:43:16.840 some nonsense like that are you saying i mean i'm i'm looking here at the magnificent letter from

00:43:23.000 from west streeting and he's saying that when you say that britain has become an island of

00:43:27.700 strangers it means you've lost your way that's what he says yes yes he attacks the island of

00:43:33.100 strangers line right so starma outflanked from the left it's incredible yeah because he's

00:43:40.920 apparently not left-wing enough it's it's um well i suppose one of the um something that is

00:43:47.880 arguably entailed by your diagnosis system diagnosis dan is that um like anyone overseeing

00:43:54.520 this system and who refuses to be visionary in and amongst it is psychotic yeah they kind of

00:44:02.160 have to because i mean all they're doing is arguing over who gets the mandate but what

00:44:06.420 that really means is who gets to try and manage the set of constraints this system has imposed

00:44:11.760 upon them i mean good luck with that and and that's why i just can't take this stuff seriously

00:44:18.960 because it might be Burnham, it might be Angela,

00:44:21.800 but absolutely nothing is going to change.

00:44:24.920 And this picture, this, approval ready,

00:44:28.500 it's just going to happen again.

00:44:30.000 And I've got something else on here as well.

00:44:33.420 Yeah, the tenure.

00:44:35.260 There you go, tenure as a British prime minister's. 0.52

00:44:38.640 That's Italian territory. 1.00

00:44:40.440 That is catastrophic. 1.00

00:44:41.760 Is that because they have been unable to find the right leader

00:44:44.620 or is that because the system itself is unable to do results?

00:44:48.060 I remember the line from Yes Minister, which basically explains that it takes a minister a couple of years to get to grips with his department.

00:44:56.800 And it's only then that the minister is able to make changes.

00:45:01.920 Under this system, every minister is replaced every few months.

00:45:05.680 Yes.

00:45:06.880 Meaning that there is zero chance of somebody coming to grips with their portfolio.

00:45:11.600 meaning that the system keeps on going regardless of whatever the minister has promised in order to

00:45:20.040 be delivered to westminster and and so it's it's a complete farce you can't function like this

00:45:27.220 yeah exactly and um then of course we've got the king's speech so there we go here's the king's

00:45:34.900 speech there's a picture of the king old sausage fingers himself looking very grand that is some

00:45:39.080 top bling i will i will give him that that is top bling um anyway there's the king's speech 0.87

00:45:44.700 bloody bloody blah my government will do this my government will do that my government will do the 0.68

00:45:49.100 other thing anyway i thought i thought you know they said dan you should cover the king's speech 0.52

00:45:53.880 and i read it and i was like yeah but this is such an absolute mountain pile of toss

00:46:00.960 that i i'm not covering this this is actually so what i did is i just rewrote it right i rewrote it

00:46:09.560 and i promise you this is 100 accurate right but it's just honest now so let let me read you the

00:46:18.120 king's speech um as it should have been written so you know my my lords members of the house of

00:46:24.400 commons my government believes that britain can be governed if every problem is converted into

00:46:29.400 security processed through active state partnership digitized regulated monitored legally harmonized

00:46:36.900 and made institutionally legible brilliant yes none of this it's genius it's correct and none

00:46:45.340 of it makes sense yes i guarantee that i mean i i literally did just go through the speech

00:46:50.880 and just write out each paragraph but in a way that it was actually supposed to be written

00:46:57.400 um my ministers recognize that the world is increasingly dangerous uh what they cannot say

00:47:04.420 is uh that danger has revealed the central fact of the british state

00:47:08.200 it can regulate tax and monitor but it struggles to decide to build and to prioritize so uh yes

00:47:17.420 that that could be what he actually said um my my government is is there my government will

00:47:24.580 therefore speak constantly about security economic security energy security border security a whole

00:47:30.500 bunch of other securities security is the language by which so the lack of sovereignty is made

00:47:36.780 respectable it allows ministers to sound serious without naming the conflicts they are unwilling

00:47:43.080 to resolve yes i mean if you if you do read the king's speech then read my one because it's just

00:47:50.760 It is just better, and it's more accurate.

00:47:54.080 My government believes in shaping the markets.

00:47:57.340 By this, my government means that markets no longer produce

00:48:00.680 politically acceptable outcomes,

00:48:03.140 but the state no longer has fiscal room,

00:48:07.960 delivery capacity or legal freedom to command outcomes directly.

00:48:11.880 It will therefore intermediate between public objectives

00:48:15.640 and private balance sheets.

00:48:17.540 The public will carry much of the risk.

00:48:19.880 Private capital will be invited to harvest much of the return

00:48:22.860 and we will call this investment.

00:48:26.500 I'll go on.

00:48:29.080 My ministers will continue to pursue growth

00:48:31.980 while maintaining the institutional arrangements that suppress it.

00:48:38.420 My government will strengthen relations with the European Union

00:48:41.660 because the British administrative state is more comfortable

00:48:44.620 when nested inside a larger rules-based system.

00:48:49.420 My government will introduce measures on immigration and asylum to increase public

00:48:54.840 confidence in the system. Immigration will therefore be treated as a matter of processing, 0.98

00:49:00.000 identifying, security and reassurance rather than any sovereign decisions about the future

00:49:05.540 composition of the nation. My ministers will proceed with digital ID because a low trust

00:49:11.620 state must replace trust with verification. My government will reform public services.

00:49:18.160 they will be

00:49:21.060 attempts to extract performance

00:49:23.200 from institutions

00:49:24.660 whose incentive makes performance

00:49:27.360 improvements impossible

00:49:28.760 and what else have I got

00:49:31.380 British values, don't forget British values

00:49:33.500 oh yes

00:49:34.440 there is a bit of values

00:49:36.740 I remember doing that bit

00:49:37.900 my government will speak of trust in public office

00:49:41.000 it will not admit that public trust

00:49:43.400 has collapsed because responsibility

00:49:45.180 has been separated from power

00:49:48.160 My government will uphold British values and decency, tolerance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:49:52.460 because it cannot restore cohesion through a shared identity,

00:49:56.620 controlled borders, common obligations, or national priority.

00:50:02.380 Oh, I like this bit.

00:50:03.500 This is brilliant.

00:50:04.540 Yes.

00:50:04.820 This is a work of art.

00:50:07.080 Thank you.

00:50:07.560 It is.

00:50:08.420 I've always admired your honesty for us.

00:50:11.420 My ministers will support Ukraine, NATO, global stability, climate leadership,

00:50:15.900 humanitarian action women and girls to slate solution the g20 blah blah blah blah blah blah

00:50:20.980 all of them will be priorities none of them will be ranked the state will to continue to confuse

00:50:27.100 coverage with strategy um other measures will be laid before you but because the british state

00:50:34.660 remains highly capable of um talking about measures what it cannot to do is produce outcomes

00:50:41.320 So anyway...

00:50:42.160 Last line, last line.

00:50:43.520 Oh, yes.

00:50:44.480 I pray for the blessings of the almighty God

00:50:47.360 may rest upon your counsels before my government cannot.

00:50:50.620 So anyway, the whole document is in the reading links.

00:50:53.660 Yes, thank you.

00:50:54.360 That's very good.

00:50:55.040 It is, yes.

00:50:56.320 If you go to lotuseaters.com and you go to the reading links,

00:51:00.080 you can read the entire King's speech.

00:51:03.360 But, you know, this is my point.

00:51:05.300 This is why I...

00:51:06.960 I don't think it's just jaded for having done this job for a long time.

00:51:10.520 I come in and I look at the news and say,

00:51:12.360 oh, that thing has happened and that thing has happened.

00:51:14.460 But increasingly, I just think, well, yeah,

00:51:15.680 but what's the bloody point of any of it?

00:51:18.860 Really?

00:51:19.800 Yes.

00:51:22.920 Unless...

00:51:23.400 They don't know who they are.

00:51:24.580 They don't know what their values are.

00:51:25.840 They're just adrift.

00:51:27.640 Unless if only there was some sort of political movement out there

00:51:31.560 that was willing to look at all of this and go, yeah,

00:51:35.840 we're not doing that.

00:51:37.100 We are fundamentally going to reimagine the state.

00:51:40.520 i'm sure q harrison well yes i mean uh one of the reasons why i find that uh very amusing

00:51:48.020 is because it is um well it's not just amusing it's very enlightening about the way and

00:51:55.180 it's obviously a satire but it's the this is the steely accurate that is this is what passes

00:52:01.000 genuinely for wisdom in whitehall yes and uh like that is a major source of our woes and i think

00:52:07.120 that the right, I mean, you know, the nominal right in recent decades has thought of it as its

00:52:14.040 duty to make peace with this system and to sort of uphold it. Well, by operating obediently within

00:52:20.100 the confines of the system, you do inherently and implicitly uphold it rather than to do real

00:52:26.060 politics and to engage in decision-making because the essence of politics is decision-making and

00:52:30.980 power needs to be related very strongly to responsibility. I think that after a very

00:52:37.780 nightmarish 20th century, people, not to sound too grand about it, but people are afraid of the

00:52:42.600 great man. They would much rather outsource decision-making to a faceless set of bureaucrats,

00:52:49.860 but in doing so, you, as you say, separate responsibility from power, and it makes it

00:52:54.620 very difficult for people to understand who governs them. And this whole kind of managerial

00:52:58.640 system worked when there was a surplus to draw down from that helps to of course and it's gone

00:53:04.140 yes yeah there's just there's just no headroom anymore but presumably you would you you would

00:53:10.100 be of the view that um whatever surplus you have at t1 um the longer the system is in place that

00:53:17.600 surplus is just going to to um well i mean it's already gone no but it's going to be eaten up

00:53:22.360 anyway the surplus it's always on borrowed time once this is yes yeah exactly what what we have

00:53:27.820 is a government that has retired and is living on its pension.

00:53:30.860 Yes.

00:53:31.420 And is running its pension down.

00:53:32.920 In fact, the pension is gone.

00:53:34.260 We're now on the credit cards.

00:53:35.780 So, yeah.

00:53:37.220 We need a better system of government.

00:53:39.920 We do.

00:53:40.760 Yes, exactly.

00:53:41.680 Right.

00:53:42.280 Let's see if anybody has commented on that.

00:53:46.400 They have.

00:53:48.180 So, quite right, Mr. White says,

00:53:53.080 the NHS is nothing to be proud of.

00:53:54.540 is bled dry and uses a cash cow pipe pfi middle management and vampiric private companies uh yeah

00:54:01.940 i mean i've i've worked in in private equity and i've i've seen i mean not my not the companies i

00:54:06.900 directly work for but other people that i spoke to is like they were always bragging about how

00:54:10.540 they were getting the getting one over on the british state because basically they know how

00:54:14.420 to write contracts and the state doesn't yeah uh the binary surfer for a solid five dollars 1.00

00:54:19.860 He says, look, at least Big Ange has two notable assets going for her 1.00

00:54:25.940 if you get my drift. 1.00

00:54:27.820 Yes, she does have personalities.

00:54:30.720 I will give you that.

00:54:34.160 He also says, for another solid $5, Harrison Restore,

00:54:37.520 be aware that Labour are doing the political equivalent of the famous

00:54:40.960 there's no money left good luck note for whoever forms the next government.

00:54:46.200 Yeah, absolutely.

00:54:48.080 He also says, good, he's been on a run, this chap.

00:54:51.240 Dan is correct.

00:54:52.460 This requires fundamental reshaping and visionary system-wide disruption.

00:54:56.720 Well, that was actually Harrison's point.

00:54:58.440 Well, I suppose we're both making the same point,

00:54:59.980 coming at it from different directions.

00:55:01.360 On a level not even Blair could achieve.

00:55:03.260 Yeah, it is a bit of a challenge.

00:55:05.100 Hope your policy guy is good.

00:55:06.920 Hopefully.

00:55:07.420 Yes.

00:55:09.240 Ockley Daw says there's too much GDP.

00:55:12.880 Well.

00:55:13.920 Yes.

00:55:15.260 Yes.

00:55:15.540 um and tom rat says uh it's um it's incumbent on restore to be war gaming policies now are you

00:55:23.480 you doing any policies yes right there we go yes we are and um yes i i do think that this is the

00:55:30.400 whole um virtue of what rupert said in his in our launch video as you mentioned earlier about the

00:55:35.440 need to level with the british people tell them this is going to be a painful process where

00:55:38.400 like we're you know like rehab is not enjoyable no um and like not to be a too boomerish about

00:55:44.460 things, but I think Thatcher was quite good at communicating this way. She didn't, in successive

00:55:48.140 elections, she didn't really say to the British people, it's going to be sunlit uplands straight

00:55:51.860 away. She was basically addressing the country and telling them, look, if we want to be successful

00:55:57.940 and get out of this sort of post-war consensus stupor, the whole country needs a cold shower,

00:56:03.200 and that's what I'm going to give you. Well, and I'd be willing to take 20 years of hardship

00:56:07.620 to turn this country around. I suspect once you started doing it, actually, you'd probably turn

00:56:11.700 around a lot quicker.

00:56:12.720 Well, yeah, it's easier with time because once you remove the people who are on benefits

00:56:17.880 living in zone one and in the centers of cities and so on, all of the second order effects

00:56:23.260 in terms of lower crime, in terms of lower house prices, in terms of more jobs, in terms

00:56:27.780 of everything that follows, sort of convinces the public, actually, yes, our life is getting

00:56:33.840 better.

00:56:34.580 We can take risks.

00:56:36.120 We can live in urban areas, which are critical to generating wealth anywhere throughout history.

00:56:41.700 etc etc so it is a self-reinforcing process reversing all of this the benefits cascade

00:56:49.380 from it even if the start of it is going to be bloody painful and as a matter of public

00:56:53.300 communications as well it does help to remind people that the choice isn't between hardship

00:56:57.060 and no hardship the choice is between endless hardship laced with statelessness and temporary

00:57:01.460 hardship laced with restoration yes precisely yeah exactly there is hope there is hope that's

00:57:07.060 That's very important.

00:57:08.020 So some of the problems that are affecting Britain seem to be a bit widespread.

00:57:15.160 And I thought I'd start here with this tweet from Roisin Michaud.

00:57:20.600 I hope that I'm pronouncing her name correctly. 0.97

00:57:24.220 She used to be in the EU in Brussels and then was promptly kicked out for her efforts.

00:57:33.220 um eu staff seem to be getting told that they aren't allowed to discuss subjects such as

00:57:43.240 ukraine gaza iran vaccines and politics

00:57:47.580 and if you are the policy making body of all of europe presumably you might want to

00:57:56.000 policy might come up at some point politics might might factor into your job it they it might

00:58:01.400 Yes.

00:58:02.260 What can they discuss?

00:58:03.560 Nothing.

00:58:04.880 They can nod their heads and obey.

00:58:07.280 They can nod their heads and obey.

00:58:09.240 Now, mind you, this hasn't stopped EU staff because a bunch of them are protesting against EU policy on Gaza

00:58:16.620 because apparently it's a problem that Europe hasn't nuked Israel yet. 0.75

00:58:21.400 Or at least they might be advocating that for all I know.

00:58:25.020 They're also not allowed to talk about gender, of course.

00:58:27.700 and they're not allowed to discuss really most things.

00:58:33.680 And presumably the actual impossible-to-discuss topic

00:58:38.380 might have something to do also with immigration.

00:58:42.540 Oh, yes.

00:58:42.960 I mean, it doesn't feature on this list,

00:58:45.980 but one would assume that that's also a verboten topic.

00:58:51.440 But things aren't going well

00:58:53.720 because throughout the West we're seeing a bit of a pattern.

00:58:56.700 and now let me tell me if you notice something please tell me if you notice something

00:59:02.120 australia pauline hansen's uh one nation party is becoming the biggest in uh opinion polls

00:59:10.500 others are they can still command a majority the rest can still command a majority but they seem

00:59:17.400 to be broken defeated and out of ideas and more importantly what is one nation is that is that a

00:59:22.940 based party is one nation is their version of restore that's pauline hanson yes right okay and

00:59:27.860 like a national populist anti-mass immigration we like one nation do we i think from what i've seen

00:59:32.700 i haven't studied it in depth but she seems very sound fair enough i like one nation then yes and

00:59:37.900 um tell me if this rings a bell i see a story like that from this country every single day

00:59:45.280 Yes, yes. For those of you not watching, four migrants raped a 17-year-old for six hours at multiple locations in Australia.

00:59:55.740 I mean, that sort of thing used to happen once a decade in this country.

00:59:58.580 Let's see. Let's look at France here.

01:00:01.800 Because there's a great deal of dissatisfaction with Mr. Merkel.

01:00:07.140 And it seems that Rassemblement National, the party of Marine Le Pen and Jordan Bardella, is getting stronger.

01:00:14.380 The left is trying to figure out a way of uniting.

01:00:18.860 There doesn't seem to be anybody

01:00:20.080 who is completely popular, by the way.

01:00:22.780 Like they have a list of potential candidates.

01:00:26.340 None of them overwhelmingly wins, really.

01:00:30.060 Even Jordan Bardella, who's at the top,

01:00:32.580 still has 51% disapproval if he wins.

01:00:37.340 The system doesn't seem capable of producing

01:00:39.980 uh leaders that the public can rally around which is really a huge issue uh record number

01:00:49.120 of presidential hopefuls they're all trying to block the far right and the fear of the surging

01:00:53.960 far right this is always the story from the guardian yeah and then you see this kind of story

01:00:59.580 in uh france right remote town pigal uh 25 year old australian woman 0.69

01:01:07.120 gets gang-raped by five Africans. 0.91

01:01:11.260 It's the same story. 1.00

01:01:13.700 Let's see.

01:01:14.780 Let's see. 1.00

01:01:15.620 Here's another one raping his... 1.00

01:01:18.180 Oh, this should have been somewhere else. 1.00

01:01:20.240 Germany.

01:01:21.640 Germany.

01:01:22.940 The AFD is surging,

01:01:24.920 and it's partly surging

01:01:26.080 because it's criticizing Donald Trump

01:01:27.980 and the war in Iran.

01:01:29.220 There are lessons here

01:01:30.320 in terms of just jumping behind bandwagons.

01:01:34.300 27% supporting it.

01:01:37.120 In some provinces, it is going up to 42% in some German provinces.

01:01:44.460 And as a federal republic, being in control of some states actually makes a huge difference.

01:01:50.320 And then you see this story from Germany.

01:01:55.360 A small group of men who are clearly not very German, 0.58

01:02:04.560 beating the daylight out of each other

01:02:07.500 in broad daylight,

01:02:09.440 laughing and screaming about it.

01:02:12.000 Yes.

01:02:13.240 Same story.

01:02:14.280 Yes.

01:02:15.260 And you could find endless stories

01:02:17.260 that are much, much worse.

01:02:18.660 Yeah.

01:02:19.340 Austria, the Freedom Party,

01:02:21.680 is leading with 36% of the polls

01:02:24.700 as of 28 April.

01:02:27.620 They're gaining ground quickly.

01:02:29.380 Their opponents are losing ground, essentially.

01:02:32.880 And you see the same story.

01:02:35.680 Six-year-old raped in a flat in Vienna. 0.88

01:02:39.060 Oh, good God. 0.99

01:02:41.360 Four Syrian migrants gang-rape 17-year-old in an apartment.

01:02:47.660 Romania, they have a different set of objections.

01:02:51.360 They aren't being flooded as badly,

01:02:54.000 but their main objection is the Ukraine war.

01:02:57.160 Because if you remember, Romania and Bulgaria

01:02:59.320 gained their independence

01:03:00.400 because the Russians kicked out the Ottomans. 0.98

01:03:02.480 The only reason we have independent kingdoms

01:03:04.660 or independent states now in Romania and Bulgaria

01:03:07.660 is because Russia kicked out the Ottomans.

01:03:09.840 If they were still under Ottoman rule, 0.97

01:03:11.940 that kind of thing would still be happening

01:03:13.780 because it was happening under the Ottomans.

01:03:16.960 And the pro-EU party collapsed and is losing.

01:03:22.120 And it seems that a right-wing party

01:03:25.540 that wants to be closer to Moscow is gaining ground.

01:03:28.780 Why?

01:03:29.200 Because they get their energy from Russia.

01:03:31.880 Cheap energy equals prosperity. 0.96

01:03:33.780 It's a precondition for prosperity.

01:03:35.560 You can't have prosperity without...

01:03:37.200 If you don't have energy, you can't do anything else.

01:03:39.340 It's a precondition for everything else.

01:03:41.840 Everything rests on cheap energy.

01:03:44.080 And so they kicked out the pro-EU party

01:03:47.400 who wants to be an antagonism with the Russians,

01:03:49.520 and they are about to bring in

01:03:51.180 what is being referred to as a pro-Putin far-right party,

01:03:56.060 which is the same story you hear everywhere.

01:03:58.100 um and in the netherlands things are kicking off rather spectacularly

01:04:04.940 um same story they're trying to bring in illegal migrants calling them refugees

01:04:14.520 they want to build them neck they want to put them up next to a girls hockey club

01:04:20.060 i would i would suggest that's actually not a good idea i don't know why you would say that

01:04:25.740 It's not that the previous stories might have provided evidence.

01:04:30.060 Yes, well.

01:04:34.260 And then the Dutch police, because these people in this town dared to protest, pretty much went all out.

01:04:41.660 This is a video that's worth watching.

01:04:46.320 Because the police come from one side attacking the protesters, making them run in one direction.

01:04:51.420 Then they come from the other side.

01:04:53.320 these guys in jeans and in black tops these are actually police officers

01:05:00.040 well they just they just come at them with truncheons and they just come at them with

01:05:05.340 truncheons and beat them as they are running away these are just regular people in their town

01:05:10.180 yes these are regular people in their town protesting for several weeks because this is

01:05:14.880 a different place uh they're trying to turn a former school into asylum center

01:05:20.020 And the Dutch police's reaction is, shall we say, spicy.

01:05:28.220 They drag the man off, beat him,

01:05:33.720 and then they beat another guy for filming, essentially.

01:05:39.380 This gentleman comes over to him and is, you know, clearly intimidating.

01:05:46.020 This guy is just standing there.

01:05:48.340 Standing there catches you, gives you a beating.

01:05:51.040 It's reminiscent of the Gilets-Jeans protests in France,

01:05:53.740 where the state just sort of beat the daylight out of everyone.

01:05:57.620 This is just so infuriating. 1.00

01:05:58.860 You will be replaced, your daughters will be raped, 1.00

01:06:01.220 and you will be beaten by thugs on the pay of the state 1.00

01:06:06.180 if you say anything about it.

01:06:08.800 And then in the same town of Lusdrecht, I'm guessing,

01:06:13.740 eventually the protests got so bad

01:06:17.320 that the locals tried to burn down

01:06:19.280 the facility where the asylum seekers

01:06:21.140 were trying to be housed

01:06:22.100 I wonder what brought them to that point

01:06:24.540 I mean I think it was the beatings

01:06:27.620 yeah it could have been the beatings

01:06:28.800 I think it was the beatings

01:06:31.740 and people are reaching a point

01:06:34.680 where they're saying you know what

01:06:35.980 we're done

01:06:36.880 they're not going to live here no matter what

01:06:40.200 we're not going to tolerate this

01:06:43.740 And again, from Eva here, the context was in this particular locality was basically that the police just went around beating even children and branding everybody far right and attacking families.

01:06:58.860 And the police and the state kept on ignoring them, insisting that they be housed in locations where they would clearly be a threat, not in some kind of prison.

01:07:09.740 and so they just started launching firecrackers at the facility trying to set it on fire

01:07:16.120 you know this is the logical consequence of redefining patriotism in terms of the defense

01:07:21.440 of a system and the defense of a value yes and and the defense of a set of values yep i find it

01:07:25.880 interesting like the obviously the afd at the moment i know more about germany than than some

01:07:29.320 of these other european cases um the afd at the moment to like many um many uh chapters of the

01:07:34.520 afd as i understand it in different states are coming of getting into trouble with what in

01:07:39.100 Germany is called the Office for the Protection of the Constitution, which tells you a lot about

01:07:43.540 how German patriotism has been redefined in the post-war era. Again, it's about protection

01:07:48.200 of a system rather than protection and love of a people. And so far as the AFD, despite loving the

01:07:56.280 people, are a threat to the system, then they need to register as persons of interest on the

01:08:01.700 Office for the Protection of the Constitution. It is a form of idolatry where the system itself

01:08:06.980 is placed as the focus of loyalty,

01:08:09.540 as the locus of loyalty.

01:08:12.080 Whereas for most of Christian history, 0.76

01:08:18.200 it was for God and country. 0.82

01:08:20.800 And country implicit within it,

01:08:23.440 what's the country?

01:08:24.220 It's the country, man.

01:08:25.460 It's the very thick network of allegiances

01:08:28.060 that make a country a country.

01:08:31.120 All of Europe always fought under the same banner

01:08:33.780 for God and country,

01:08:35.560 or for God, king and country.

01:08:36.980 but now it's for the system, the international rules,

01:08:43.080 and these pesky countrymen bothering us get to be beaten

01:08:48.620 because they object to the system.

01:08:50.640 They are at best an inconvenience and at worst an active threat

01:08:55.100 to the integrity of the system.

01:08:56.100 Yes, exactly.

01:08:57.340 This just feels like another 1840s moment.

01:09:00.460 Europe is going to erupt.

01:09:03.000 This doesn't end well.

01:09:05.140 This never ends well.

01:09:06.980 And in Bulgaria, you see something similar. 0.92

01:09:10.080 I should have put Romania and Bulgaria together.

01:09:11.900 Sorry about that.

01:09:14.680 But, you know, the accusation is the same.

01:09:19.820 There is a Russia-aligned figure who is now a threat to the support for the EU.

01:09:25.780 Now, mind you, the EU will always lecture you about human rights in Russia.

01:09:29.680 It will never lecture you about the police beating unarmed protesters in the Netherlands 0.93

01:09:34.020 because they don't want their daughters raped. 0.97

01:09:35.540 Yeah. 0.93

01:09:36.620 It will never lecture you about that.

01:09:39.280 It will never object to the French police beating the daylight out of the gilets jaunes.

01:09:44.140 It won't object to the British state having a two-tier policing system

01:09:48.400 where some groups are monitored with facial recognition

01:09:51.800 and their phones are tracked and all of their movements are tracked,

01:09:55.260 but other groups are ignored.

01:09:56.840 What kind of a person signs up to join the police

01:09:59.560 and then spends their time going around beating families, children,

01:10:05.940 because they have legitimate concerns about their safety

01:10:09.400 and can sleep at night.

01:10:10.860 There's a reason why they're masked.

01:10:13.260 There's a reason why they're masked.

01:10:14.980 I can't say.

01:10:16.100 In the United States, ICE agents are masked

01:10:18.320 because the left is saying, 0.99

01:10:19.660 we're going to kill you at home. 1.00

01:10:21.340 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:22.860 Here, they're beating up their own people,

01:10:25.100 so they have to be masked. 1.00

01:10:27.060 I can't say what I think should happen to these chaps. 1.00

01:10:30.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:10:31.560 um and you see the same story in all parts of europe with them trying to protest to

01:10:41.140 how the eu is leading things how the western establishment in general in britain in australia

01:10:48.560 in the united states and in the eu is managing things but the remarkable thing about the eu is

01:10:55.060 that they never give up.

01:10:56.800 And so here's a story from Romania, basically.

01:11:00.000 They disqualified the candidate

01:11:02.100 who won the presidency in Romania

01:11:04.200 because he was being supported by the Russians

01:11:08.080 and the Russians had intervened in the elections.

01:11:10.340 It turns out that the pro-EU party

01:11:13.840 had made videos on social media,

01:11:18.220 attributed them to the Russians,

01:11:20.360 and then used that as a pretext to nullify the election. 1.00

01:11:25.060 Which is genuinely brilliant.

01:11:27.080 Which is genuinely brilliant.

01:11:29.780 I mean, that's a level of evil here that we haven't seen before.

01:11:32.740 Which country is that again? 1.00

01:11:33.880 Romania.

01:11:35.420 Right.

01:11:35.940 Romania.

01:11:37.180 We see the EU basically building up slush funds for NGOs

01:11:42.060 so that the NGOs can defend the migrants

01:11:44.500 and can defend the...

01:11:47.940 attack the racists

01:11:50.140 and attack the Islamophobes and so on and so forth.

01:11:53.940 So they're spending $8 billion on NGOs forming public opinion and making sure that, you know, you always have a bench of talking heads willing to go on television and gaslight the public.

01:12:09.920 They are spending, they are admitting that in Hungary, they pretty much did the same thing as they did in Romania.

01:12:16.500 They accused the former Prime Minister Orban of leaking information from the EU to the Russians,

01:12:25.560 and then actually it didn't happen.

01:12:28.080 They just admitted that it didn't happen.

01:12:31.020 They are winning in Hungary,

01:12:34.860 because now the new nominee for the foreign ministry in Hungary

01:12:39.640 is going to re-examine their asylum system.

01:12:43.400 And they're holding Hungary by the Short and Curleys, refusing to unleash money that they were supposed to get when Orbán left until, presumably, they changed their approach to asylum seekers.

01:12:59.980 This is going to be a difficult one for Magyar to manage as well, because he did expressly win the election in many ways on outflanking Orbán from the rise on immigration.

01:13:09.380 Yes.

01:13:09.580 Because he presented Orban as a soft touch on the legal kind of immigration, despite acknowledging his successes on the illegal front with the fence on the border with Serbia.

01:13:19.420 And so it will be interesting to see, obviously you had all the usual suspects from Hillary Clinton to Alex Soros, celebrating when Magia won simply because he was not Orban and the hope was that business as usual will resume.

01:13:31.440 It will be interesting to see the metal that he's really made of, if indeed he's made of metal at all.

01:13:36.200 Yes, yes.

01:13:37.100 they're paying huge amounts of money

01:13:40.380 to the mainstream media

01:13:41.340 as the Canadians are doing

01:13:44.060 I mean Canada funds

01:13:45.920 its state media quite extensively

01:13:48.040 to make sure that they have the correct

01:13:50.380 opinions

01:13:50.860 but you have to

01:13:54.520 throw in a bit of corruption there

01:13:55.960 because it's entertaining 1.00

01:13:57.800 the Spanish it turns out took a bunch

01:14:00.340 of the COVID funds and used them to pay

01:14:02.260 pensions

01:14:02.740 that's kind of where

01:14:06.180 EU money goes

01:14:07.080 but it's getting to a point where really the whole economy is breaking down under these kinds of

01:14:13.380 policies so not only we are in the situation where the public wants one thing the establishment

01:14:21.400 comes up with all kinds of dirty tricks to impose the literal opposite on them they do that by

01:14:27.580 printing money and it's getting to a point where they can no longer keep on printing money because

01:14:33.100 the growth of the money supply, as you could explain to us, at a time like this is pushing

01:14:38.440 us towards way more level inflation. And we know what happens afterwards.

01:14:44.740 Yeah. I mean, at the moment, they're holding it together. I mean, everything's just getting

01:14:48.420 debased on year by year. But if we get the Green Party or Angela Reynor and stuff, they've got no

01:14:54.140 choice, but they're just printed. Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, none of this is making

01:15:00.200 lives people's lives better because the growth from immigration in terms of population far exceeds 1.00

01:15:06.280 the growth figures and q1 is always the good quarter and q1 is always the good quarter

01:15:11.060 this is why is q1 always the good quarter uh because a lot of companies when they commit to

01:15:17.360 their spending plans they have a big pile of cash at the start of the year so like for my contracting

01:15:22.140 i invoice them at the start of the year i get that money that goes you know that makes my balance

01:15:28.340 sheet look better, but then I work it off for the rest of the year. And so Q1 tends to work

01:15:34.380 that way because of how financial planning operates. Like take my case and just expand

01:15:39.220 it across the board. And people's living standards are collapsing and their security is falling

01:15:48.780 apart. And what's the EU's answer to this? Don't you dare talk about it.

01:15:53.700 and when politicians say things and which i mean very very few few of them are economically

01:15:59.560 literate enough literate enough even to say this but when they're sort of you know told about the

01:16:03.820 debt and they say don't worry most of our debt is denominated in our own currency is that basically

01:16:08.100 translation for we can print it that's translation for we can inflate our way out of this by

01:16:13.900 destroying your living status the problem is that only gets you so far because eventually you turn

01:16:17.700 the currency into toilet paper indeed but is that what they're basically saying i mean yeah i mean

01:16:21.100 to an extent and and they well and also financial repression where they can control you know banks

01:16:26.560 and insurance companies just to buy more debt problem is once you turn the currency into toilet

01:16:31.140 paper it's it's all for if we produced our own oil and our own electricity our own um you know

01:16:38.080 we could fully feed ourselves if we could do everything ourselves yeah it wouldn't matter

01:16:41.620 the fact is we need dollars we need euros so if you trash your currency through that and

01:16:47.820 you basically just run out of imports

01:16:50.520 and then things stop working.

01:16:52.020 So, I mean, yes, it buys you a bit of time

01:16:54.500 once the system starts to break,

01:16:56.660 but not very much.

01:16:58.400 Yeah, exactly.

01:17:01.000 So, yeah, don't criticize the EU

01:17:03.360 is the theme of this segment, I guess, 1.00

01:17:06.140 because otherwise they'll send the Dutch 0.98

01:17:08.400 or the French police to beat the crap out of you 0.98

01:17:10.600 while they're trying to flood you with migrants. 1.00

01:17:13.180 You're welcome.

01:17:14.480 No, I really don't like the Dutch police anymore.

01:17:16.020 yeah not not good not good at all any comments you want to put out well let's see the next

01:17:26.360 government needs to have a manifesto to start exact just stating exactly what they'll repeal

01:17:32.160 scrap otherwise it'll take two terms just to get everything through parliament yeah i mean this is

01:17:36.900 why you guys are you know involved in the policy work that you're doing and in the research that

01:17:41.680 you're doing and obviously trying to expand a lot of it at the moment i should say too i

01:17:44.920 And if I didn't give enough detail earlier,

01:17:46.580 obviously our main focus has been on Great Yarmouth first

01:17:48.820 in recent weeks,

01:17:49.960 but we really are trying to formalize processes

01:17:51.660 within the policy unit, expand,

01:17:53.980 get strong across the board at pace.

01:17:57.420 Yeah.

01:17:59.900 Cranky Texan says,

01:18:01.360 in terms of understanding fundamental drivers,

01:18:03.980 debt is the engine of the imperial system.

01:18:05.980 Correct.

01:18:06.900 Christianity fundamentally opposes debt.

01:18:09.120 Correct.

01:18:09.860 Therefore, the ruling class opposes Christianity. 0.99

01:18:12.440 Correct. 0.93

01:18:13.920 Yeah. 0.99

01:18:14.260 I mean, usury is, has been hated since the time of the Greeks.

01:18:20.820 The entirety of Western tradition relies on rejecting usury.

01:18:25.040 Don't put yourself into debt.

01:18:26.900 Don't live outside of your means, et cetera, et cetera.

01:18:30.400 What have the governments of Europe and of the West been doing for the last few decades?

01:18:35.160 Building up debt.

01:18:37.080 So, yes, that's quite correct.

01:18:41.360 Anyway, video comments, Samson.

01:18:44.260 we will do them tomorrow okay shall we have a look at some of the other comments here

01:18:53.240 uh from my section zesty king says keir starmer is the last defender of the current system as

01:19:00.260 it stands today no no west streeting is making a bit to keep on defending it this is mandelson's

01:19:05.760 creature don't forget that uh everyone agrees that that it is not working and his position is

01:19:11.880 untenable. If Keir resigns, it will benefit West Streeting. If he resigns later, it'll benefit Andy

01:19:17.040 Burnham, who has already allied himself with Angela Rayner. That's correct, yes. Dan's immigration

01:19:24.280 policy will consist of a... Thanks for that. Hang on, let me read that one. Oh, go on, man.

01:19:33.340 Where is it? Russian Garbage Human. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, I like the idea of just having a narrow 1.00

01:19:41.300 door right very narrow door ah yes i think that's what he's saying i oh i know how you read it now

01:19:49.480 yes good god you've got a filthy mind haven't you well i i know my audience uh yes i love you guys

01:19:57.580 yes uh no the allergy whoever sent me that book oh the minotaur milk i'm i think i might actually 0.94

01:20:05.420 have to read it and do a segment on it funnily enough i did see it on your desks not ferris's

01:20:11.700 Well, yes.

01:20:12.620 Yes, I've started on it.

01:20:14.800 Yes.

01:20:16.340 You're really putting in the effort there.

01:20:19.020 Kevin Fox says,

01:20:20.120 I am wondering how many police officers

01:20:21.700 will be on hand in Hammersmith on Saturday.

01:20:26.120 Rangres, Rangers, may well be a flashpoint

01:20:28.560 as Unite the Kingdom Patriots

01:20:30.300 head there to support the owner

01:20:31.620 and his family and business

01:20:33.440 and the cousins will no doubt go there

01:20:36.900 to vent their frustration at the Nakba march.

01:20:39.340 Hmm.

01:20:40.980 Okay, I'm not aware of that, but I'll check it out.

01:20:44.220 Henry Ashman says,

01:20:45.320 if the Met are making the organizers liable

01:20:47.740 for what is said at the rally,

01:20:49.640 what is to stop a glowing attendee

01:20:51.880 saying something naughty as causes Belly to arrest the lot?

01:20:55.160 Other than the structural incompetence.

01:20:56.980 No, I mean, this is a good point.

01:20:58.520 And this is the problem.

01:21:00.320 I don't want to criticize Tommy Robinson over this,

01:21:02.600 but you want people who are making a sound case,

01:21:06.900 not just rabble rousing.

01:21:08.140 uh you've got to be a bit careful about this stuff given the constraints that britain is under

01:21:15.020 yeah um and at a certain point you do you do need to ask the question

01:21:18.900 what are we doing this for like do you want to win i can't remember what that what that um 0.99

01:21:24.400 american loudmouth latina ladies call yes she is not the sort of person who's likely to endear 1.00

01:21:29.980 her to be able to engage the actual affections and concerns of patriotic british people on the

01:21:36.400 ground in this country and if not what's the point it's a different mindset it's a completely

01:21:40.960 different mindset and this is this is important but then you have yeah tommy's meetings with the

01:21:48.000 state department all that stuff which clearly factor into the decision making lenin once said

01:21:52.840 in any field of human endeavor you should always have your heart on fire but your brain on ice

01:21:58.020 it's a very good quote right wing leninism that is a very good quote uh richard says you can't

01:22:04.760 believe how much this government hates the british white people yeah yeah it's it's pretty

01:22:10.480 obvious you want to read a couple is it an instinctual hate or is it just that they've

01:22:14.380 locked themselves into a process that they can't get out of and it's the only thing they know how

01:22:18.160 to do look if you remember gordon brown when he met he was campaigning and he sees this woman in

01:22:23.940 2009 i believe julian duffy yes yes called her a bigoted woman yes and if you actually sort of

01:22:29.220 study i mean i say study if you listen to what she was saying it could have been could not

01:22:32.780 possibly have been more inoffensive no no he was a hot mic moment called her a bigoted woman she

01:22:38.200 was she was actually just complaining about how her son was struggling to get a job job because 0.56

01:22:41.340 there were more polish and romanian people in her neighborhood than there used to be that's all she

01:22:44.740 was saying yeah it lifelong labor voter as well yeah and i i remember that and you know clearly

01:22:52.420 she was a working class woman she didn't she didn't really have the words to to skillfully

01:22:57.000 articulate what was trying to said and she was talking about polish and romanians and she goes

01:23:01.160 on a bit and then and then she concludes it was something like you know where are these people

01:23:04.420 coming from you know she doesn't really have the words to properly articulate it and i remember

01:23:09.840 for about two or three months afterwards every left-wing media representative was out there

01:23:16.020 mocking her saying oh where are they coming from when she said it herself they're coming from 0.96

01:23:20.160 romania and poland what an ignorant woman it's it's just it's it's your concern is not valid 0.97

01:23:26.680 because you aren't valid because what you represent is a continuity with tradition and 0.99

01:23:33.620 that tradition is you know culturally homogenous ethnically homogenous christian and these guys 0.99

01:23:41.880 are post-christian libtards and they they don't respect you they think that you're all ignorant 0.92

01:23:47.980 because you didn't, you know, articulate your ideas as an essayist or something. 1.00

01:23:56.720 But the unspoken rules of post-moral morality,

01:23:59.560 the major unspoken rule of post-moral morality

01:24:03.480 is that the collective interests of European majorities are poisonous.

01:24:08.500 Yes.

01:24:09.140 And so, like, once that is your value system,

01:24:11.880 you cannot but react to people like Gillian Duffy we've discussed

01:24:15.960 because, admittedly, she's groping her way

01:24:18.680 towards a sort of group consciousness there, isn't she?

01:24:21.420 Yes, essentially, meaning that she is a bigot by that definition.

01:24:25.100 Exactly.

01:24:25.700 But everybody else having group consciousness

01:24:27.680 is not bigotry for some reason.

01:24:29.680 I mean, presumably you guys are on the lookout for the,

01:24:31.620 because perhaps this third segment is all about sort of dirty tricks

01:24:34.420 that they're going to pull in and all the rest of it.

01:24:35.960 I mean, are you guys very much alive to the dirty tricks

01:24:38.380 that will be coming your way?

01:24:39.720 I mean, we're certainly not sentimental and naive

01:24:43.600 about the smooth operation of the rule of law

01:24:46.320 and the idea that the system is not rigged,

01:24:48.700 the idea that the system is not gamed

01:24:50.120 in order to favour certain outcomes.

01:24:52.580 And so, yeah, we're definitely alive to that sort of thing.

01:24:55.420 But it's precisely because we are alive to that sort of thing

01:24:56.980 that we're not just interested in doing stunts for the sake of it

01:24:59.560 because it might give you a kind of cathartic sense of gratification,

01:25:03.360 but if it's not actually getting the ball down the field,

01:25:06.740 there's no point in engaging in that sort of behaviour.

01:25:09.340 There's a lot to be said for stockpiling.

01:25:10.820 We all know that delayed gratification is white supremacy.

01:25:14.160 So you have to watch your words, sir.

01:25:17.620 See?

01:25:18.320 That's your tactics right here.

01:25:19.800 Yeah.

01:25:20.720 It has become that.

01:25:22.120 It really has become that.

01:25:23.540 No, we are alive to this.

01:25:24.560 I know it's not your area, but I mean, for me,

01:25:26.840 the whole key thing is that, you know,

01:25:29.140 getting those branches set up, you know,

01:25:32.040 getting those established across the country.

01:25:33.680 I mean, presumably there's, I mean,

01:25:34.640 do you know much about what's going on with that?

01:25:36.180 Yeah, I mean, we have, obviously it's,

01:25:39.880 we're trying to get it done as quickly as possible,

01:25:41.540 But as you're implying, it has to be done carefully and you need to make sure that the proper vetting is in place.

01:25:47.660 You're not allowing yourself to be infiltrated.

01:25:50.780 We keep the circle at this point fairly small within Restore Britain in order to minimize those sorts of breaches.

01:25:58.580 But yeah, we're certainly not naive. 1.00

01:26:00.600 We don't think we're playing cricket here with fundamentally good but maybe mistaken chaps on the village green. 1.00

01:26:08.100 We understand that Britain isn't that sort of society anymore. 1.00

01:26:11.060 And we wanted to become that sort of society again.

01:26:13.740 But as such, we have to adjust our operating system.

01:26:16.100 This isn't a gentleman's game, and we're aware of that.

01:26:20.700 Remember, they hired that actor to go against reform in Clacton, right?

01:26:25.340 I don't know if it was actually established in the end,

01:26:27.140 but yes, there were certainly very strong suspicions

01:26:28.760 that he was basically sent there as a plant.

01:26:30.960 Yeah, because he had a website where he advertised his work,

01:26:33.400 including talking rough, or speaking rough, as he called it.

01:26:36.060 So these kinds of things are happening, and they would do it again.

01:26:40.500 they would do much worse than that i mean for god's sake rupert was raided on his own right

01:26:47.080 i think i think well one thing i'll say as well i think this is part of the virtue another virtue

01:26:51.440 of restore as i see it and uh rupert as i as i obviously know him fairly well at this point is

01:26:56.200 that he is genuine genuinely political i don't know much time we have i don't want to go on

01:26:59.960 but he is genuinely politically ambitious and by that i don't mean he wants a job at all costs

01:27:05.740 what I mean is, is that he sees politics as an activity in which if you want to get something

01:27:10.240 done, you need to kind of reshape the mold that sets the terms for day-to-day politics.

01:27:16.360 And so if the Overton window, like one of our functions is to shift the Overton window. And

01:27:21.700 I think we've already had quite a lot of success in doing that. Once the Overton window is shifted

01:27:25.800 rightwards as it has been, and as I hope it can be pushed a little more, all of a sudden what

01:27:30.220 would have counted as entrapment 10 years ago doesn't actually count as entrapment anymore

01:27:35.180 because the standards have been updated a little.

01:27:37.340 So I think this is part of the function of meta-politics,

01:27:40.180 is to make sure that the whole game of political wrangling

01:27:44.840 no longer takes place on the terms of your adversaries,

01:27:48.360 because then you have much more room for manoeuvre,

01:27:51.060 much more room for ambition,

01:27:52.400 much more room for just being frank about what you really believe.

01:27:54.660 I mean, I interviewed Sam Millia the other day,

01:27:56.640 the guy who got jailed for stickers.

01:27:57.860 I wrote a piece about him when he was sent to prison.

01:27:59.760 Yes, and he was telling me during his trial,

01:28:04.120 he was having to make the argument that the grooming gangs even existed and that was only

01:28:08.380 two years ago right and then he comes out of jail and he turns on the tv and there's news night

01:28:12.620 about the grooming gangs so it just goes to show how far even in the space of a couple of years

01:28:17.680 these things can move and and that's why i was just so delighted when when rupert started doing

01:28:21.580 those shows and they said oh that i think that makes you a racist he's like i don't care that's

01:28:25.660 right that is brilliant there's power in that because because you know these like terms like

01:28:30.040 racist terms like xenophobe terms like bigot whatever respectable meaning they might once

01:28:33.760 have had they now basically mean averse to conquest and in favor of survival if you translate them in

01:28:38.900 almost any context that's what they mean uh and once you once you make that more apparent to the

01:28:43.340 british people which is obviously a slow process and when it's when the term is being used in bad

01:28:47.080 faith you have basically half of the country that is to say our side saying we no longer like

01:28:52.720 language only has power if if instituted by human agreement and so if half of the society is saying

01:28:59.220 well, no, I don't, you may as well be saying abracadabra,

01:29:02.660 Emily Maitlis, then all of a sudden,

01:29:04.980 these terms don't have the power that they used to.

01:29:06.880 It requires cooperation from the right

01:29:08.540 for this kind of moral blackmail even to take effect.

01:29:12.380 And so if we just, you know, opt out of the whole game,

01:29:16.660 the whole language game,

01:29:17.620 then it no longer has the power it did.

01:29:19.420 So I think that's important too,

01:29:20.880 because those are the sort of dirty tricks

01:29:22.640 that they are trying.

01:29:24.820 So it has a lot to do with shifting the language,

01:29:26.360 shifting the terms of politics,

01:29:27.440 what is pompously called meta-politics.

01:29:29.220 yeah i mean i'll just read out one final comment um that's a random name says all i've ever known

01:29:33.480 is his farce of a system we're currently living in can one of you explain to me how life felt

01:29:37.820 when things worked or uh have none of you experienced it either well i mean i might be

01:29:43.120 to answer that one i mean you're probably even too young to answer to answer that one harrison

01:29:46.800 but i actually missed the end of it what it was what was the question um you know have you

01:29:50.900 experienced a living outside of this system um i mean i was born in 98 yeah yeah well i mean i was

01:29:57.200 in 98 i would have been 18 so then the whole kind of blairite thing was going on but i do remember

01:30:03.120 it beforehand and and the best way i can describe it is just lack of being in a pressure cooker

01:30:07.940 but you feel weighed down today like there's there's things are being heaped on your shoulder

01:30:12.700 before then and you know it wasn't just because i was a kid i've had this conversation with people

01:30:17.120 who are much older than me you people just cooperated and the state didn't require and you

01:30:23.480 weren't hected all the time you were just free and and it's difficult to describe a sense of

01:30:28.820 freedom when you haven't have never experienced it but it's it's just that you weren't carrying

01:30:34.840 weights on your shoulder all the time best way i can try and put that across um but no with that

01:30:40.860 i'm afraid we have run out of time oh there was some comments about um excellent that harrison

01:30:46.160 is on all that sort of stuff so great so good well thank you everyone thank you yes no thank

01:30:50.560 for coming in we always like to see the the chaps come in spread the good word um so uh yes one

01:30:56.820 second oh god lord inquisitor hector rex says dan and fidesz have you gotten through the book i sent

01:31:02.300 thank you oh it was you was it hector thank you all right thank you well no i quite like it

01:31:08.640 i'm glad i don't i don't like it but i just think i'm studying women

01:31:13.460 yes 0.91

01:31:15.180 very problematic

01:31:16.940 you wouldn't believe

01:31:18.460 I think that's all the time that we have for today now

01:31:21.340 that is all the time we've got today

01:31:23.060 so thank you for joining us

01:31:25.220 and see you tomorrow

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - May 14, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1418

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