00:13:33.340of liberal thought that dominates politics.0.96
00:13:36.260She'll always be on the right wing of that0.98
00:13:37.600rather than actually someone who's outside of it.
00:13:40.060But Rupert Lowe doesn't believe in it at all.
00:13:42.920and he expressly says that he wants to destroy the blairite system and rightfully so you know
00:13:49.440i've got to emphasize again but it's um a lot of these politicians that have hopped over to reform
00:13:54.480were a part of the the boris wave government you know those who are responsible directly for the
00:13:59.380massive amount of mass immigration in recent years and they might not have been happy with it but at
00:14:04.780the end of the day you still were complicit you still i mean jemmerich was defending smuggling in
00:14:10.260the afghans under the super injunction until 2025 december 2025 he still published articles
00:14:17.200defending what he did zia yusuf is post saying that jenrik was only pretending to be right-wing
00:14:22.440yeah to get into government and then go back to the center are still up on x and the thing is
00:14:27.720i think zia yusuf's right like weirdly zia yusuf is probably my favorite person in reform because
00:14:35.160he seems to be the most actually right-wing person in reform it's strange isn't it it's very strange
00:14:40.520but you know at the end of the day we are where we are so yeah like i said it's very interesting
00:14:46.640how this is all um or i mean it's not even covertly in defense of reform at this point is it they're
00:14:52.680like almost explicitly defending reform uh because a lot of them have come to peace with that i mean
00:14:58.700the we we covered it last week the spiked article was particularly strange spiked obviously was
00:15:03.100founded by a bunch of communists and they're frothing at the mouth about not having a reform
00:15:09.920government which is very interesting but another point I like about this is the seeding of the
00:15:15.560ideas so yeah no get this into the discourse could Rupert Lowe destroy reform yeah no no no
00:15:20.520the first way to make something happen in real life is to have the conscious thought of it
00:15:26.280in your head and so that's why this one's so much better in the times could Rupert Lowe be the next
00:15:32.160p.m you know what let's have a discussion about that let's get the dialectic on that going shall
00:15:37.480yeah it's that kind of conversation is good and you know it's like getting it out there
00:15:41.240so it's in the back of people's minds so they think about it when they go to the ballot box
00:15:45.360could rupert be the next mp i might vote restore you know it's possible absolutely and uh she's
00:15:51.380as she says katie here says the mega crowd seem to think so in britain it seemed well i mean the
00:15:55.780mega crowd are reform voters uh these are not the mega crowd that's the thing explicitly yeah
00:16:01.340But in Britain, it seems absurd, but the appeal of Restore Britain is capturing the US right, which sees the former Reform MP as the man to get the job done.
00:16:09.260Yeah, but it's also capturing the disaffected, normal people in Britain.
00:16:13.860I mean, my favourite thing about this whole thing is John Cleese becoming Rupert Lowe's strongest soldier.
00:16:20.700Of all the people on Earth, to be a hardline Rupert Lowe supporter, John Cleese was least on the list for me.
00:16:27.560it's a strange it's strange people are coming out to support rupert lobe it's great it's a
00:16:32.980massive variety as well like people have never been interested in politics before and you know
00:16:38.240those yeah like politics had nothing had nothing to offer no exactly yeah there was no representation
00:16:43.820form this is why i don't have any time for arguments about ideological purity on twitter
00:16:49.100it's like no no no you don't understand how big a tent this is going to be but what we're going
00:16:53.560to get is representation for ourselves yeah you know there are going to be lots of disagreements
00:16:58.400along the way but it's something we haven't ever had and so it's about time that we get it so
00:17:04.140anyway this is going further than just the media crowd talking about it for example uh restore
00:17:09.520first britain uh restore britain uh university societies are being created which has been
00:17:16.480controversial i've been contacted by a few and i am more than happy to come and speak at them
00:17:20.940obviously um but this is is one of those things where it's like okay so you're really in the heart
00:17:25.820of darkness with this because restore britain is not an ideological party right as in there isn't
00:17:32.860a predominant reigning ideology uh there is people normal people who are like no we just need to just
00:17:38.780act we need to actually do some things um so this puts it in a very strange position because normally
00:17:43.260be like right this is a socialist party this is a liberal party this is a nationalist party
00:17:47.500this is at this party. And once you adopt an explicit ideology, you put yourself in a kind
00:17:53.560of theoretical framework relative to other ideologies. And they are able to extrapolate
00:17:59.180your premises out to certain conclusions and force you to go to places you might not actually
00:18:04.080want to go to. And then you're trapped in the kind of forever discourse of ideological debating,
00:18:10.960which is, I mean, don't get me wrong, I actually find it entertaining, but it's not very useful,
00:18:15.160right it doesn't get anything done what you're thinking about here is pragmatic populism exactly0.57
00:18:19.640yeah that's a great way of framing it like the like callum people like yourself actually you
00:18:24.640know you're not having ideological discussions on the doorstep no of course not you're just
00:18:29.000serving the people it's very you know you put the people first you knock on the door and you talk
00:18:33.520about issues that matter to them because at the end of the day who doesn't want to serve their
00:18:38.000people and do the best for them that's kind of a whole point of trying to get elected you know
00:18:41.360it's not for a money or a grift it's because you want to serve the people to make a field
00:18:45.200put for a lot of people it might be that but for us it's definitely not that is it you know
00:18:49.460of course but uh but this is this is the point so actually getting out there and doing things
00:18:55.120is really good and we've even made it to have i got news for you have you ever seen have i got
00:19:00.200news for you count it's still running it's still running okay now for anyone outside of britain
00:19:09.040who doesn't know what have i got needs for years i used to watch this when i was a teenager right
00:19:13.420that's how long this has been going you're in her um yeah no actually yeah yeah no absolutely
00:19:20.240absolutely uh when i was in my libtard phase as a teenager um and so what it is is paul merton and
00:19:27.940in his lob get a couple of guests on and it used to be angus deaton uh who was the presenter now
00:19:33.280angus deaton was superb as a presenter because he had this incredible deadpan delivery of the
00:19:38.840jokes and so he was absolutely he was the one who got caught doing he was yes which was disappointing
00:19:46.020because then he got fired and so they have guest presenters now and uh i i mean i don't know who
00:19:51.500watches this still but um but ian hislop and paul merton are the sort of raw engine of comedy but
00:19:58.040they've got this kind of john stewart attitude where it's like look i will tell you about this
00:20:02.300thing and then we'll all laugh and we'll assume that we don't need to think about this thing any
00:20:06.780further and so that's exactly what they do and so obviously as you can see um it comes across
00:20:11.900very um disconnected from the reality of the country because they're liberals they're well
00:20:18.760to do they're very successful and they haven't got any of the problems that real people in the
00:20:25.160country have well they can be snooty about this they can they ha ha look at rupert loo and his0.98
00:20:32.900silly restore party aren't they idiot far right so well i mean i guess we'll wait and find out0.96
00:20:38.140won't we but um but yeah so it's all it's all been um quite good sort of normalize restore britain0.99
00:20:45.000in the public consciousness because i mean when you've got people like this attacking you
00:20:49.060great when you've got like the left-wing and right-wing media attacking you and saying no
00:20:55.580no we're the liberal establishment and farage is our guy and you know from have i got news to you
00:21:02.200the Guardian, to the Spectator, the Telegraph, the Times,
00:21:26.140He never punches back, you know, and his punches are always held
00:21:29.640because he understands he himself is a creature of the media,
00:21:32.200He got famous by being able to get on the media, give his spiel, and think, oh, yeah, no, of course, I've done every, I'm the person who's destroyed the far right in this country.
00:21:40.360I'm the person who's the containment for the far right, and I always have been.
00:21:43.640Well, do you know, do you know who's not the containment for the far right?
00:21:47.180And this, this honestly blew my bloody socks off when I saw this.
00:21:51.900Rupert Lowe had said something quite spicy, should we say?
00:21:57.640For anyone listening, quotes from the Jewish Chronicle
00:22:02.040Rupert Lowe calls grooming gang scandal
00:22:04.260Something the equivalent of the Holocaust
00:25:00.760you had to sacrifice tens of thousands,
00:25:03.000hundreds of thousands of British girls0.98
00:25:04.860to be raped and abused and prostituted,0.98
00:25:07.880and in some cases killed, tortured, etc., etc.0.98
00:25:11.140So the thinking behind it is the same. The entire current order exists based on the idea that nationalism is inherently evil because this is what it leads to.
00:25:24.680The reality is multiculturalism is evil because that is what it leads to.
00:25:29.220And so shifting the political, the defining political narrative from what happened three generations ago to what is still happening today, yeah, actually that's really important because that is going to wake people up.1.00
01:19:28.980I think that's very true, to be honest, because it kind of goes, a lot of people don't like, I don't know, he's just seen it as plastic, as fake, and people think he's sold out, like he's a snake oil salesman.
01:19:42.520and these are patriotic people who won't vote for Farage
01:19:45.800because time and time again he's shown to not be the guy
01:19:49.120and I think they're massively underestimating it
01:19:52.480and there's going to be a massive shock
01:19:54.160when we get that massive, when the results are in on the 18th