The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1431

00:00:00.000 hello everyone welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters this is episode 1431 this is

00:00:06.980 tuesday the 2nd of june i'm joined today by luca josh and charlie hello there hi good to be here

00:00:15.400 awesome good to have you here we haven't had a four-person panel in a while or at least i haven't

00:00:20.520 been on one yeah i mean it's been ages since i did the last one i remember it was with adian

00:00:27.440 paladin oh yeah well we were on a four-man panel weren't we last time yeah when was that a month

00:00:32.320 ago yeah something a few weeks yeah yeah today it's gonna be a roller coaster of emotions

00:00:38.020 and i'm not just saying that i'm on the podcast and i'm doing my weird stuff we are gonna actually

00:00:45.080 talk about important subjects we are going to discuss our shameless politicians the evil of

00:00:51.460 henry nowak's murder and then norwegian stranded in india so we'll take you to mumbai and to the

00:00:59.360 slums of india by the end of the segment after we hear all these horrible stories that my esteemed

00:01:05.900 colleagues and co-hosts are going to talk about you don't mean this in a metaphorical sense you're

00:01:10.320 literally going to take you're going to kidnap us and take us to mumbai and yes yes which is

00:01:16.020 not while i have my strength yes me and me and my pal modi are gonna modify how things are gonna

00:01:22.340 run from now on right and on that note are we going to talk about how shameless the politicians

00:01:28.800 of the uk are i suppose i can if if you ask very nicely no um pretty pleased with sugar on top

00:01:35.200 i'll wear my book my winston wolf bow tie so britain's politicians are quite shameless this

00:01:43.540 isn't necessarily anything new but the newest iteration is demonstrated in the Westminster

00:01:50.260 Hall debate on the publication of child sexual offender data and this was a very popular petition

00:01:56.240 which closed in the 16th of January 2026 and it got over a quarter of a million signatures which

00:02:03.360 is quite something for a petition and of course this was started by Rupert Lowe and so the inquiry

00:02:09.700 referred to him as being the person who created it please bear that in mind because that's quite

00:02:14.820 important later but here you can see the petition is quite limited in scope and of course the purpose

00:02:22.380 of this petition is the fact that the grooming gangs this is the sort of thing that isn't

00:02:27.160 necessarily explicitly mentioned but the grooming gangs were allowed to operate because there wasn't

00:02:31.720 sufficient focus on ethnicity and also the religion which of course it talks about publishing

00:02:37.500 the nationality ethnicity immigration status and religion of child sexual offenders which

00:02:43.340 makes perfect sense in my mind you can say that not only was there insufficient to focus on

00:02:50.000 ethnicity but it was don't investigate these communities because they're going to be called

00:02:55.360 because you're going to be called racist yes of course and i think that on the one hand when you

00:03:00.740 look at the data side of things it was more sort of out of political sensitivity but when it comes

00:03:06.520 to actual policing and safeguarding and things like that for the actual children and the victims

00:03:12.040 of it it was very explicit in the sense of we don't want to upset the sensibilities of these

00:03:18.760 communities as well as take a reputational hit for being called racist and we see this

00:03:23.720 again and again again in all sorts of different victim testimony and it's a very recurring theme

00:03:30.120 So it's a matter of public record.

00:03:32.580 This isn't up for political debate.

00:03:35.040 In fact, many inquiries, many testimonies, many public cases demonstrate this fact.

00:03:41.260 I was just going to say how twisted it is as well that they didn't want to suffer the reputational hit of being called racist.

00:03:49.040 But the reputational hit of allowing these things to become permissible in towns and cities across the country, that was fine.

00:03:57.560 that actually they thought their reputation could withstand that

00:04:00.600 because the establishment weren't obviously keen to investigate it

00:04:04.320 or scrutinise it in any way whatsoever.

00:04:07.060 And of course, the obvious moral thing to do

00:04:09.240 is to take the potential reputational hit

00:04:11.900 and save children from being abused.

00:04:14.100 Obviously.

00:04:15.160 I mean, need it even be said.

00:04:16.780 It shows you the hierarchy that exists in very stark terms

00:04:19.960 because it's like, you know, 0.99

00:04:21.540 white working class vulnerable girls being raped 0.99

00:04:24.440 is less of a moral failing than uh muslim migrant populations calling you racist 0.99

00:04:29.640 i mean that's that's what's happening and it's also the indication an indication that the police

00:04:35.360 isn't anymore doing its proper job the proper job is to safeguard individual rights and public

00:04:41.960 security and it looks increasingly more it looks like they just are an activist body for

00:04:49.200 supervising the particular race relations that the bureaucrats in charge of the police are trying

00:04:55.980 to tell them to oversee. I very much agree. So I'm going to play a little bit of what Rupert Lowe 0.99

00:05:02.840 read out at this inquiry, because I think it's very important to put in perspective, because

00:05:08.180 it's one thing to talk about this in the abstract, but it's another thing to have direct quotes

00:05:12.360 from the people that have lived through it. And normally I do avoid playing long video clips,

00:05:18.200 But in this instance, I think it's important enough to justify it.

00:05:22.580 Firstly, I would like to thank the 260,974 British men and women

00:05:29.540 who signed the petition to make this debate possible.

00:05:34.000 And I want to welcome these brave survivors who are sitting behind us in the hall.

00:05:39.220 This debate is about them.

00:05:41.120 As you quite rightly say, it's not about politics.

00:05:43.260 I want the world to hear what we heard during the two weeks of our independent rape gang

00:05:50.220 inquiry hearings, an inquiry that should never have needed to happen.

00:05:55.820 I sincerely urge this Parliament to listen to the testimonies from these brave survivors

00:06:00.740 and to act, to finally act. 0.99

00:06:04.700 So the first testimony, he took his pants down, penetrated me, had sex with me. 1.00

00:06:13.260 He then stopped before ejaculation. 0.99

00:06:16.620 He picked up the bottle of Jack Daniels, which was now empty, 0.79

00:06:20.760 and he forced it up inside me.

00:06:23.100 He broke the glass while he was there.

00:06:26.760 At that point, I was about 12, nearly 13.

00:06:31.960 Another testimony.

00:06:33.760 I was held down by the men as they each took turns 0.99

00:06:38.040 to orally and vaginally rape me, 0.98

00:06:40.900 taking it in turns to pin down my arms and my legs. 0.99

00:06:45.460 When the assault ended, the men hit me repeatedly,

00:06:49.380 threatened to find me, kill me, and harmed my loved ones

00:06:53.560 if I ever told anybody what had happened. 0.98

00:06:58.180 Another. 1.00

00:06:59.680 Comments were constantly made suggesting that white girls, 0.99

00:07:02.900 the Christian girls, were viewed as having fewer morals or lower values,

00:07:08.480 whereas Muslim girls were described by some of the men as having dignity and higher moral standing.

00:07:16.120 These comparisons were used to justify the way I was treated and to further humiliate and control me.

00:07:23.240 Another, she was a white woman herself.

00:07:26.300 So, obviously you get the idea here, and I'm sorry that I played that,

00:07:31.120 But it is very important that you hear it directly, you know, in the words of the people who experienced it.

00:07:39.520 Of course, it makes sense that they're not the ones out speaking.

00:07:43.720 But I wanted to mainly focus on the people who use this opportunity of something that, in my opinion,

00:07:52.100 shouldn't necessarily be party political at all to posture and, you know, position themselves to take advantage

00:08:00.020 of something that is one of the worst tragedies in our nation's history and I'm not going to play

00:08:07.440 what Nigel Farage had to say because it's quite long and I want to keep this relatively short

00:08:11.700 but he didn't necessarily say anything too egregious he said because of racial sensitivities

00:08:16.600 authorities at all levels did not pursue justice that's fair enough he points out that the

00:08:21.800 authorities knew he pushed to publish all reports from police and social services

00:08:26.260 encouraged MPs to subpoena officials

00:08:28.680 and he rightfully credits the work of Sarah Champion

00:08:32.360 who was there as well

00:08:34.040 she actually ended up quitting the front bench 1.00

00:08:38.420 after pointing out 0.76

00:08:39.700 Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men 1.00

00:08:42.960 raping and exploiting white girls 1.00

00:08:44.620 which for a Labour minister is quite something 0.95

00:08:47.640 and this was nearly 10 years ago

00:08:49.500 yeah this was 2017

00:08:51.340 and she's done a lot of work

00:08:54.860 unlike many of her Labour peers and Robert Jenrick was there who had a very long and boring speech

00:09:02.520 which didn't really say a lot it's worth pointing out as well he did play a key role in sneaking in 1.00

00:09:08.480 20,000 Afghans into the country which data shows are one of the most dangerous nationalities for 0.97

00:09:14.060 sexual offences. Well an Afghan grooming gang was rounded up just last week I believe seven of them 1.00

00:09:20.100 And here we got some data from Restore Britain that shows, in London at least, Afghanistan is the most overrepresented of the nationalities in sexual offences.

00:09:31.660 But also let me add that this pattern can be seen throughout Europe. It isn't just in London. You see throughout Europe people from the MENA countries being overrepresented in violent crimes. 0.56

00:09:43.560 And Afghanistan and Syria are frequently those who score higher on this.

00:09:49.600 And one thing I will say to what you mentioned before,

00:09:52.460 I think these are distressing things that it's not nice to hear,

00:09:57.720 but people should hear,

00:09:58.660 and people should be aware of the extent of the crimes.

00:10:02.460 And it's good to hear people from the establishment

00:10:04.980 and also people who are criticizing the establishment

00:10:07.620 being the opposition to the current government speaking about it.

00:10:13.840 But speaking about it isn't enough.

00:10:16.460 it's uh it's ancient wisdom that people love venting anger and lots of rulers use this to say

00:10:28.120 well i listen to you but i'm not going to grant you your demands in this case it is absolutely

00:10:34.460 imperative that they do change course at least in some respects and what is uh what is absolutely

00:10:41.380 disgusting i will say is that this the conversation right now is on whether this inquiry should be

00:10:50.640 had yeah that's where instead of just saying there has to be a complete change of course

00:10:57.260 with respect to how the government and the police are uh are functioning it's only because of

00:11:04.720 dishonest politicians that want absolutely the true nature of it but given as well the dimension

00:11:10.380 of the amount that the independent rape gang inquiry you know sourced through crowdfunding

00:11:16.500 as well that the sheer hundreds of thousands of people signing a petition so that this is even

00:11:21.660 happening right now it speaks to the deep satisfaction amongst the British people for

00:11:27.020 how this has been dealt with because the obvious point is it hasn't been dealt with in any

00:11:32.220 meaningful way in anything beginning to approach a sense of justice well this this is the key thing

00:11:39.280 is uh our opponents restore britain's opponents rupert lowe's opponents on all sides whether it's

00:11:45.500 in reform uk or the labor party or elsewhere or in the press for that matter have all taken it

00:11:50.980 upon themselves to criticize rupert for running the independent crowdfunded rape gang inquiry

00:11:56.240 because it doesn't have statutory powers i mean matt goodwin the other day was on x calling uh

00:12:03.260 supporters of the inquiry dumb some interpreted that as meaning those who participated in the 0.77

00:12:09.020 inquiry were themselves dumb as if they'd been scammed in some sense when in fact what we were

00:12:15.680 trying to do is give a platform to these survivors who up until now have been completely ignored and 0.89

00:12:22.180 shunned by the political establishment by the press and it is only because of Rupert's inquiry

00:12:28.000 that we have these testimonies and as you say when the report that we are currently writing

00:12:34.540 is released in the coming weeks um we think it's going to be seismic we think that it is going to

00:12:40.640 utterly transform the conversation around this issue in this country uh because even now the

00:12:46.440 public are not aware of the extent of what's happening the scale of what's happening and i

00:12:52.020 said this i was on bo's show this morning i said this there but it bears repeating because i think

00:12:55.860 this is such a crucial thing for people to understand because it's not something that i

00:12:59.400 understood i always assumed when i first started hearing about this um these atrocities in my in

00:13:05.520 my teenage years um i always assumed that this was just gangs of seedy disgusting degenerates all

00:13:11.880 getting together and doing this stuff as it were for fun right but it's not that it is a a nationwide

00:13:18.880 criminal enterprise it is a business it is something that is intertwined with the drug

00:13:24.340 trade with the arms trade with money laundering in this country well so many of the testimonies

00:13:29.220 indicate that these girls were not only involved in underage sex rings,

00:13:35.800 but also they were involved in drug smuggling, human trafficking,

00:13:40.740 just all of the illegal trades done under one banner,

00:13:44.220 usually by ethnic groups or even family groups.

00:13:48.020 Yes, clans.

00:13:49.520 And this is the point, is it's not multiple isolated instances

00:13:53.620 happening in Derby and Birmingham and Bradford and all the rest of it.

00:13:57.140 it is one you know cohesive nationwide criminal network that is in touch with one another uh you

00:14:03.780 know within which money is changing hands for access to you know these trafficked girls and 0.68

00:14:09.720 then this money is laundered through your vape shops and turkish barbers that now line our streets

00:14:15.520 and so what that is what those shops are is the front face of what is actually a massive uh you 0.96

00:14:21.700 know incredibly dark despicable criminal network which is active and really active in plain sight

00:14:27.960 in our country and these and this lot don't care one jot about any of that and you know it when

00:14:34.540 you walk to a barber shop or another restaurant and they don't have pos you almost understand

00:14:41.000 what's going on so they know who they are the establishment knows who they are and how they

00:14:45.840 operate yeah so it's worth mentioning as well that once jenrich had stopped speaking um nigel

00:14:51.840 farage up and left midway through the debate so that shows how much he cares he couldn't even

00:14:57.140 stay for the whole thing and uh what i really wanted to focus on were things like this um

00:15:03.220 this just turned into a political circus and particularly um this liberal democrat mp cameron

00:15:09.720 thomas um this was just disgusting elon musk's interest in the 2024 summer riots and the

00:15:17.820 unimaginable crimes they followed was not in the protection of women and girls rather it was based

00:15:25.620 upon his apartheid nostalgic white supremacism musk's concern for women and girls sorry it 0.54

00:15:32.520 only extends to his own attempt to exploit them as evidenced through his reluctantly public

00:15:39.340 exchanges with sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. That brings me to the member for Great Yarmouth

00:15:45.060 and again I feel self-conscious for delivering this from behind him. Despite Musk's relationship

00:15:51.180 with paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, the member for Great Yarmouth continues to publicly court him

00:15:56.000 and last year he was paid £40,000 by Elon Musk through his platform X, the same platform over

00:16:02.940 which musk provoked those riots in 24 uh 2024 in closing uh dame siobhan excuse me is this this

00:16:13.080 is in the uk right because this seems to me completely um irrelevant and also the americanization

00:16:20.920 of british politics it's like the only bad the only possible bad people on earth are those

00:16:26.540 mentioned in the epstein files uh so these gangs weren't mentioned in the epstein files so if you

00:16:33.340 want them to be investigated you're somehow bad i don't think that's necessarily what he's saying

00:16:38.880 but what he is trying to say basically is that by holding this inquiry rupert is somehow guilty by

00:16:46.440 association with elon musk and therefore jeffrey epstein and he's trying to build this connection

00:16:52.040 between the two which is a very dishonest strategy by by getting ad revenue from x he that's that's

00:16:59.140 trying to be right so the obvious question is here what is his proposal for the grooming gang's

00:17:05.820 victims well he doesn't make one he he just uh goes around talking about his own political agenda

00:17:12.980 he's just trying to smear his opponents and there's also this idea that elon musk is some sort

00:17:18.060 of weird uh white supremacist yeah white supremacist apartheid sympathizer but does 0.64

00:17:25.680 everyone remember the fact that he got very very angry when people were going on about the h1b 0.92

00:17:30.540 infinite indian immigration loophole um yeah it doesn't make any sense and also he's repeatedly

00:17:36.740 said that he's um happy to welcome people with american values so he doesn't really fit that

00:17:42.400 profile well this entire thing is just left-wing tropes and it's all done just to invalidate

00:17:47.740 everything that rupert sammy woodhouse everyone involved in this inquiry yourself charlie everyone

00:17:52.700 has worked towards the uh obviously the girls who have come forward as witnesses you know to

00:17:58.340 re-engaging with that trauma and everything that's done to him bravely speaking for it

00:18:02.160 and he has nothing to say about any of it if he had his way this would never come up again

00:18:10.540 any of this this is a perfect example of what we opened the segment talking about this is somebody

00:18:15.620 who i mean he's a lib dem so presumably he lives in a uh you know ethnically homogeneous uh

00:18:21.840 constituency most lib dems do yeah probably uh quite a wealthy constituency probably not somewhere

00:18:27.440 where this is an issue now i mean it's an issue in many many towns and cities so i'm not writing

00:18:32.260 that off um i don't know where he's the mp4 but just on balance we're probably dealing with someone

00:18:37.640 from a white wealthy area here who is more concerned with as connor says here virtue

00:18:43.800 signaling about race and about cultural sensitivities and all of this nonsense more

00:18:49.520 concerned with that than he is in and and not just that but actually uh you know henpecking

00:18:54.760 and and and and attacking the one mp that is actually prepared to genuinely do something

00:19:00.380 about this and not just talk about it and of course it's a bit crazy to me as well that he's

00:19:04.940 trying to suggest that elon musk was the one that stirred up the riots of 2024 rather than people

00:19:11.320 being genuinely angry about it and not suggesting it was a legitimate way of channeling the anger

00:19:15.800 but at the same time i think that it was anger about the southport attack as well as immigration

00:19:22.120 more generally but also let's remember all of the other things that the left blamed for the riots

00:19:27.060 that you remember people were saying that it was nigel farage provoking it rather than elon musk or

00:19:31.640 far-right misinformation was a big one that the bbc liked that one i think um people radicalized

00:19:37.960 on social media people were blaming facebook and things like that weren't they and also they were

00:19:42.980 just saying that there's just an epidemic of racism for some reason anything but the lessons

00:19:47.560 yeah it's everything isn't it apart from it's everything apart from the actual state and

00:19:54.560 authorities who allowed it to happen who just literally force these circumstances into being

00:19:59.920 so something like this could happen in the first place and then it's apologists like him who just

00:20:05.820 dismiss it out of hand because the only people actually speaking up and trying to give justice

00:20:11.420 to these girls are his political opponents this is not interested it's exactly the right language

00:20:16.840 that by the way we need to be talking about apologists and collaborators yes enablers

00:20:20.740 because that's who these people are and in this case they should actually try to work together

00:20:24.800 here instead of saying well this guy is i think far right so i'm not gonna i'm constantly gonna

00:20:31.900 disagree on everything he says because he's called for right by the establishment well

00:20:36.340 another person who you could describe as an apologist for them is hannah spencer whose

00:20:41.400 interjection here i'm not going to play um just for the sake of time but you can uh watch it

00:20:47.200 underneath the website uh where all our links are but she describes these people as men and she

00:20:53.040 makes it a feminist issue like that it's just caused by men just men non-descript men not

00:20:59.020 significantly men of Pakistani and other Muslim backgrounds but just men and it's the same thing

00:21:04.200 that Jess Phillips does and it's obvious that they're trying to shift the focus from the actual

00:21:10.940 true nature of who is doing it to make it about their own pet projects about hating on men and

00:21:17.460 making it all about men being responsible rather than all of the men who also object to this like

00:21:23.220 blaming men just generally is also blaming the fathers of the victims many of whom

00:21:28.160 face real violence as repercussions for trying to intervene and so it's a very distasteful thing to

00:21:35.200 do to say the least and genuine i mean if you genuinely did care about the safety of women and

00:21:39.120 girls in this country you would want as much data as possible so that you can prevent these kinds

00:21:44.260 of crimes which is exactly what rupert is asking for yeah asking for more data is never a bad thing

00:21:49.060 And if you're trying to cover that up, then that just says that you have some sort of other agenda, don't you?

00:21:54.320 And this is also another one that I found very frustrating. 1.00

00:21:57.300 And this is Ayyub Khan, who is a Muslim independent. 1.00

00:22:00.780 So I can imagine you will all have figured out what line he's going to trot out. 0.51

00:22:06.220 So here he goes.

00:22:07.120 Because it would be obscene policy and an obscene politics to draw sweeping conclusions

00:22:12.540 about communities of millions from the crimes around 16,000

00:22:17.340 of the most depraved individuals in our society. 1.00

00:22:20.780 So when people insist on doing exactly that to Pakistani, Muslim, Asian or migrant communities, 1.00

00:22:26.140 they are not following the evidence.

00:22:28.400 They are revealing a prejudice.

00:22:31.200 So speaking of prejudices, you know, they work both ways.

00:22:35.540 And I think he has a little bit of a prejudice himself

00:22:37.800 because if we look at where he's originally from,

00:22:40.720 he's from um mirpur that's where he moved moved to britain from which as you say is in pakistan

00:22:47.640 and is he the one who was calling for an airport to be built in mirpur yeah it wouldn't surprise

00:22:52.540 me i don't know if it was him specifically but a number of them were weren't they and uh yeah

00:22:56.920 obviously he has more loyalty to his fellow pakistanis than he does to the girls who have

00:23:04.240 been made victims by them that much is obvious because why else would he be in there defending

00:23:09.920 them basically from criticism and of course it's not just a generalization to talk about

00:23:15.200 them being asian men or pakistanis because here we have um national audit on group-based child

00:23:22.040 sexual exploitation and abuse um this is from january oh no updated on january of 2026 but

00:23:30.060 it's from last year i believe and i'm going to read a little bit from this um the appalling

00:23:36.800 lack of data on ethnicity and crime recording alone is a major failing over the last decade

00:23:41.520 or more questions about ethnicity have been asked but dodged for years child exploitation is a

00:23:47.160 horrendous whoever commits it but there have been enough convictions across the country of groups

00:23:51.220 of men from asian ethnic backgrounds to have warranted closer examination this is an independent

00:23:56.040 government inquiry this isn't some political um thing so if even they're admitting it and uh just

00:24:03.020 hammer the point home i searched the document for how many instances of asian were in it because

00:24:08.940 that's what it uses i prefer not to use the word asian i prefer to be a bit more specific chinese

00:24:13.500 no no it's not it's not the japanese either it's in pakistanese and and muslim ethnicities and

00:24:20.860 and religions 114 mentions of asian just 69 mentions of white and remember that uh white

00:24:29.800 people are still the majority for the time being in this country and so they must be incredibly

00:24:34.780 overrepresented to have this just on this by the way this the thing that i can't said i mean this

00:24:40.440 guy is obviously not a liberal he's using the language and and admoral uh kind of shibboleths

00:24:45.720 of liberalism to conceal himself to conceal his true intentions but he's talking about not making

00:24:51.020 sweeping generalizations about people on the basis of the actions of a few but at what point do we

00:24:55.740 say actually when these crimes are so vastly overrepresented among this group at what point

00:25:01.520 do we say it's not worth the risk having any of these people in our country that to me seems like

00:25:05.480 a perfectly logical and moral response to the nature of it as well in in the sense that sure

00:25:11.220 it was the men doing it but the women also facilitated it they covered for the men and when

00:25:15.760 the police came around they made excuses for them they saw it as religiously justified yeah and so

00:25:21.840 it is the entire community to say nothing you know local council local health care uh national

00:25:26.620 government and all the rest of it i mean again i said to bo this morning on on on his show that

00:25:30.420 what this is what the rape gang scandal is is what happens when you combine everything that's wrong

00:25:36.060 with britain today and and it manifests as one phenomenon because it's the corruption at the

00:25:41.300 national level corruption at the local level uh corruption in the police force and the fact that

00:25:45.620 these people these perpetrators are here in the first place well the in fact there were pakistanis

00:25:50.680 who were associated with the gangs who infiltrated the police and the courts

00:25:54.060 and allowed them to carry on, didn't they?

00:25:56.400 And so to suggest that it's not an ethno-religious phenomenon

00:26:00.180 is madness, in my opinion.

00:26:02.120 But yes, I wanted to draw attention to this.

00:26:04.020 It's a very serious issue that should be taken seriously,

00:26:07.440 but unfortunately we don't have serious politicians.

00:26:09.640 We have people who look into cheap political point-scoring 0.91

00:26:13.940 and don't actually care about the suffering of young girls. 0.99

00:26:16.360 They care about their careers and their politics.

00:26:20.680 do you want to show the uh the rest or do you want us to read the comments no no okay also just

00:26:26.200 just something to add is just he can't go there and say well we want we don't want this inquiry

00:26:32.920 because it's going to be causing bad generalizations excuse me if you want good

00:26:37.880 relationships among the communities that can only be based on sincerity and truth yeah respect is

00:26:43.240 earned you don't just think we're also well past the point where the british people are going to

00:26:47.720 to forgive the pakistanis for what they've done yes yes i'm talking about from his perspective 0.94

00:26:52.020 one tall order says shameless politician is a bit redundant isn't it stelios well i mean

00:26:58.720 exceptions exist that's a random name says it almost feel like the bureaucracies is that is

00:27:04.660 more important than the children's well-being that's part and parcel of them be functioning

00:27:10.500 as an activist body and oh comes aftershave three he says that he worked as a safety inspector for

00:27:18.520 an online platform and then he found out that chicken nugget was a racial slur meaning cheap 0.99

00:27:25.400 white meat there was a lot of that that came up in our inquiry actually you know lots of white slags 0.99

00:27:31.360 white pig dogs was one that came up english pig dogs because muslims obviously don't like pigs 0.99

00:27:36.040 or dogs so that's how they regarded the english girls the english children that they were raping 0.99

00:27:40.420 Or the English, for that matter.

00:27:42.220 They seem to be more than happy to generalise about our people.

00:27:45.520 Yeah, of course.

00:27:46.240 Well, this is the point, is, you know, making sweeping generalisations,

00:27:49.660 that's actually the, I'd say, the norm across the rest of the world

00:27:54.220 and the rest of history.

00:27:55.280 It is just this strange moment.

00:27:55.760 Anyone who is talking about the far right is making sweeping generalisations.

00:28:00.260 True, yes.

00:28:00.740 Should we go to the segment, Luca?

00:28:03.420 Okay, so we're going to have to discuss a very dark matter

00:28:07.500 because there have been developments, as we can see here,

00:28:10.080 as of yesterday the sentencing was given to Vikram Digwar who murdered Henry Nowak in Hampshire

00:28:20.640 in on December the third of last year and as a result of this I wanted for the sake of accuracy

00:28:27.360 to go through some of the numbered articles in the actual actual remarks from the sentencing

00:28:34.400 yesterday so first we're going to deal with the crimes of the actual uh digwar family themselves

00:28:41.800 and then um towards the end of the segment i also want to look at the police and their manner

00:28:49.880 during all of this as well so to begin with i wanted to read from uh number two where it says

00:28:56.480 you vikram digwar murdered him by doing so you robbed him of all those he loved all the things

00:29:02.760 he cared about and liked to do. He would have been expected to live a long, hopefully happy

00:29:08.000 and fulfilling life. You have brought misery and a lifetime of loss upon his family and great

00:29:14.020 sadness to everyone who knew him. And then remarking on Henry's father, he was described as

00:29:19.480 devastating and lifelong impact of Henry's death on him and the whole family. He speaks of the

00:29:26.320 horror of losing his son in such violent circumstances, the trauma of identifying his

00:29:32.120 body and the lasting torment of imagining Henry's final moments. He describes overwhelming grief,

00:29:38.720 guilt, helplessness and the pain of seeing Henry's mother, siblings and wider family broken by the

00:29:45.140 loss. Mr Nowak says that the family has effectively been given a life sentence with the pain affecting

00:29:51.540 every aspect of their lives and every significant family occasion and that nothing will ever fill

00:29:58.080 the permanent void left by henry's death and it proceeds to um go through many other articles

00:30:04.500 relating to other members of henry's family as well but another compounding factor on this is

00:30:11.580 that through their tax money they're going to have to pay for the upkeep of their loved one's

00:30:16.120 murderer yeah yeah which i think is a real injustice of our the way our system works

00:30:20.780 currently prison shouldn't be for people like this and that's why capital punishment exists

00:30:26.540 and why i very much support its reintroduction yes yes i couldn't agree more but then we get to

00:30:32.140 so then it comes out in the passages that i've skipped as well the toxicology report proved that

00:30:38.540 henry himself was below the safe legal driving limit of alcohol within his system this was not

00:30:45.180 some drunken kerfuffle there was no racial slurs or any of the things that were being lied about

00:30:50.140 in henry's memory if we go to number seven here relating to uh digworth says you were sober but

00:30:56.520 you were carrying a large seat dagger in a sheath attached to a belt over the outside of your

00:31:01.520 clothing strict requirement or seek faith to have a knife called a capan at all times generally

00:31:07.020 this will be a small knife hidden from view often on a length of cord and worn around the neck but

00:31:13.020 had that um you had that uh but in addition the larger dagger in a sheath you're a member of an

00:31:20.640 order of sikhs called the nehang who have a tradition of having a second knife or kipan

00:31:26.440 and that is often fully visible and he remarks on the fact as well that um none of the members

00:31:33.140 his brother and his father were not wearing the second one and he reports here and i found this

00:31:39.260 very interesting, that according to Professor Gurman Singh, a professor of sociology and an

00:31:45.000 expert in the field, over the last 30 years there has been a trend towards younger people wearing

00:31:50.420 a Kapan with pride in the desire to express their cultural identity. They see it as an act of

00:31:56.240 resistance to being denied the ability otherwise to display their identity. So one of the revelations

00:32:02.480 that comes from that, of course, is that we see here expressly second, third generation immigrants 1.00

00:32:08.400 coming out and feeling like they're not able to be their authentic selves

00:32:13.100 and not able to express their true identity.

00:32:16.280 If only they had a country they could go to.

00:32:17.880 Well, it does make you think, doesn't it?

00:32:20.100 This is multiculturalism,

00:32:22.120 and it's not a coincidence that it says over the last 30 years.

00:32:25.820 And one thing that shows how dishonest the establishment is

00:32:29.620 when they're talking about this

00:32:30.760 is that they're frequently going to phrase it

00:32:32.980 in terms of failure of integration,

00:32:35.440 but multiculturalism says explicitly do not integrate keep your identity that's why he says

00:32:43.240 here that he wants to display his identity um and and also as well obviously at the same time but

00:32:50.460 we as the english watch the erosion of our identity every single day before our waking eyes

00:32:58.340 and there is no sympathy from the establishment regarding any of that the only time the english

00:33:04.060 are ever spoken of is to be described in the far right way not as something organic with a

00:33:09.620 heritage and a history things that make that you know the blood pump and the heart you know the

00:33:14.180 heart yearn for that sense of identity as our Sikh murderer here feels even as we do it in a far 1.00

00:33:21.120 more civilized way and really it's um you know an expression of the fact that these sorts of 0.99

00:33:26.760 attitudes are rising that takes away from us and our right well it's a part of a wider attack on

00:33:33.400 just european identity of course one of the things in the world that i think people should be most

00:33:38.280 proud of we've created one of the best civilizations ever to have existed in all of human history and

00:33:45.600 we're meant to feel ashamed of that and actually no i think the complete opposite i think that

00:33:50.320 no um we should be proud of of who we are our culture the way that we conduct ourselves that

00:33:58.260 is why europe is great and it's and by bringing people in with different ways only denigrates that

00:34:04.500 fact speaking of these different ways i mean i don't know anything about the sikh faith

00:34:09.300 nor should we have to no and i don't know why they have to carry these daggers now i recognize

00:34:15.200 that it was not the it was not the ceremonial dagger that he murdered henry novak with it was

00:34:19.740 this extra one that he carries and is allowed to carry for some reason because of his commitment

00:34:24.500 to this particular sect or order or whatever it is but the correct attitude of the englishman uh

00:34:30.160 as as as a christian people in my view is to say sorry no we don't really do that kind of

00:34:35.100 superstitious nonsense in this country you don't get to carry a knife around with you because

00:34:38.660 you know some like tenet of your foreign religion says that you have to you either come here i mean 0.97

00:34:43.720 if you are going to come here and i don't think they should come here in the first place because

00:34:46.740 i think immigration integration multiculturalism assimilation these are all modern myths they're

00:34:52.740 not real and they failed yeah they failed they failed they've they've self-evidently failed but

00:34:56.620 if we're going to go along with this idea that you come here and integrate surely the first part

00:35:00.780 of that is to dispense with but that's the point they are being told to not integrate yeah

00:35:05.320 um and so to to move on to um point 14 it says um you move towards him and confidently told him

00:35:13.420 that you were a bad man this is after we had the um brief little window of evidence of it being on

00:35:19.160 film because of henry's snapchat where um he just remarked on the fact that because it would have

00:35:24.120 been and the judge himself obviously marked on the fact that yes for a young 18 year old boy

00:35:31.320 from essex seeing a man walking down the street wearing a turban with a large knife on his person

00:35:37.960 would have probably raised a comment of query or concern and the other thing as well is that the

00:35:43.080 the judge himself marks that the fact that Henry's tone was clearly not antagonistic in any way

00:35:49.700 whatsoever and the fact that it says you were not frightened or concerned and you grabbed his phone

00:35:55.340 removed it from him the exact events which immediately followed were only witnessed by

00:36:00.000 Henry and yourself and then he basically just deduces that as all of this came about as Henry

00:36:05.760 would naturally try to get his phone back in this moment then obviously the knife was drawn 0.86

00:36:12.440 and after the turban

00:36:14.820 may have been knocked from his head

00:36:16.280 there was an active will 0.98

00:36:18.580 to kill 0.79

00:36:19.500 from 1.00

00:36:20.940 Vikram to end Henry's life

00:36:25.020 and also as well the fact that

00:36:26.980 he continued to film it

00:36:29.000 he filmed Henry's

00:36:31.100 suffering, took photos

00:36:33.040 of it and then of course

00:36:34.780 was able to trust

00:36:36.280 his family to help him cover it up

00:36:38.820 as well, which again

00:36:40.640 just comes back to the sort of ethnic tribalism religious tribalism as seen with the um with the

00:36:48.700 pakistani rape gangs where it's like you can depend on your family to cover up for your crimes

00:36:53.800 it's not normal in britain or in much of europe for that matter to just cover up if someone just 0.92

00:37:00.440 murders someone like if i called up my parents and said i've just stabbed someone more or less

00:37:04.920 in cold blood can you help me i don't think my parents would be thrilled no i don't think they

00:37:09.740 would be coming out and disposing of the knife in the same way that uh happened here i mean many

00:37:15.860 many people have remarked upon the fact that this guy apparently seems to have had an obsession with

00:37:21.400 uh with knives yeah there are videos about 20 and it is and it's obvious that he was just itching he

00:37:27.600 was just waiting for an opportunity to do something like this and i wonder why that is because he's a

00:37:32.560 he's i think a second generation migrant his mother is an indian national yeah um but what is the

00:37:38.640 culture that he's grown up in in britain if he's lived i mean i don't i don't know whether he lived

00:37:42.740 in southampton for his entire life but that's an urban place he likely grew up on drill london

00:37:48.400 culture as many migrant communities do um and the kind of uh value system that's propagated by that

00:37:55.040 culture is the kind of one where you say i'm a bad man i've got my knife and if you wrong me if 0.97

00:38:00.460 you cross me i'm gonna stab you i'm gonna kill you but that that is the the you know you talk 0.99

00:38:05.500 about multiculturalism that is the culture in many migrant communities in this country it is 1.00

00:38:10.900 one of violence it is one of retribution it is one of clannishness and every aspect of that is 1.00

00:38:16.700 on display in this story so it doesn't matter it doesn't you know there's this narrative that goes 0.97

00:38:20.320 around of course that Sikhs are uh you know one of the better you know sort of migrant groups and

00:38:25.680 that may be true I mean you know they're not uh guilty of mass child rape gangs no that's that's

00:38:30.700 true and it's not i mean i can't in my own memory remember a story like this happening in the past

00:38:36.500 but nevertheless it shows you that this poisonous culture has penetrated uh this community as as

00:38:43.360 you know as much as any other and and it's also one as well that in this specific case

00:38:47.620 forced because of the legal straitjacket that we have henry was legally not allowed to have a weapon

00:38:55.560 to defend himself against this man whereas the other was allowed to carry a knife at his religious 0.99

00:39:01.480 discretion but apart from the Sikh community what is absolutely appalling here as well is the 1.00

00:39:09.340 reaction of the police yes yes and we will I'm sure we'll get there yeah no no it's absolutely

00:39:16.480 terrible so to move on to point 16 as well further down it says the consequent bleeding

00:39:22.960 flowed into this Henry's chest cavity, the pathologist Amanda Jeffrey found 1,200 milliliters

00:39:31.940 or over two pints of blood there. She said that no emergency medical treatment would have permitted

00:39:37.320 access to the bleeding vein. In simple terms, he would not have survived, however quickly he

00:39:43.540 received first aid, CPR or expert medical treatment. The one point to add, of course, to that

00:39:51.120 is that Vikram and his family would not have been aware of this fact.

00:39:57.400 As far as they were concerned,

00:39:59.640 there was every reason to believe

00:40:01.680 that medical attention could have, of course, saved Henry's life.

00:40:05.680 And not only were they not honest and upfront about it,

00:40:09.760 they purposefully delayed authorities arriving at the scene

00:40:14.500 so that they could cover their own complicity in the murder.

00:40:18.840 to go to point 19 as well to come to the aspect of his brother your brother uh gupreet arrived on

00:40:27.020 the scene very shortly after your attack had finished you then filmed henry desperately

00:40:31.660 trying to get away from you somehow scaling a fence onto a communal bin before landing on a

00:40:38.160 car in front of the property next door bloodstains show uh that he had got one uh more or all of his

00:40:45.560 injuries before then and i will just conclude by going through points 21 through and 23 which is

00:40:53.000 you joined your brother in relating these lies to the police about the fact that this was all

00:40:58.180 instigated as an act of self-defense uh over henry's alleged racism and of course self-defense

00:41:04.620 laws in this country don't allow you to use a knife anyway no um it says uh and by then your

00:41:11.040 mother and father were at the scene, Gapreet explains that no weapons had been involved or

00:41:15.440 were present. In fact, while he was talking to the call operator, you told your mother to take

00:41:20.700 the murder weapon, sheath and belt away, which she did. You did not tell your father what had

00:41:26.700 really happened. Much of the time you just stood by as he at least tried to do something to help

00:41:35.180 henry and then point 23 which is thereafter the time came when the police needed permission from

00:41:41.420 a court to extend the time for you to be questioned in custody and arrange for you and

00:41:46.920 to be taken there for that purpose they took the opportunity to record secretly any conversation

00:41:54.080 between the two of you on that journey speaking in punjabi you agreed to pretend you had acted

00:42:00.540 in self-defense, even though you confessed to stabbing Henry three times, including once

00:42:06.360 in the chest with the dagger. You knew you were guilty, demonstrated by your saying to

00:42:11.720 Gapreet that if there were any cameras in that part of Belmont Road, you would be unable

00:42:17.900 to put forward self-defense. You decided, much as you had at the scene, to try and cover

00:42:24.440 it up. In all your police interviews, you decided not to answer questions about the

00:42:29.240 instant instead you made a written statement um on the 7th of december last year which told more

00:42:37.080 lies do any of you have a brother i have two no can you imagine sitting in the back of a police

00:42:44.480 car and conspiring with him to cover up a murder that you've just committed and that just being

00:42:49.860 totally normal no unimaginable and also as well the the extra detail there of the fact that

00:42:56.240 you thought you could get i mean obviously they didn't know that they were being recorded

00:43:00.220 but that they spoke in punjabi as well because they obviously knew that the police officers

00:43:05.380 weren't didn't happen to be fluent in punjabi and so it's an extra layer of the multiculturalism

00:43:12.380 that allows them to get use a language barrier for their own ends in all of this and i for the

00:43:21.380 purposes of time we'll move on to just saying as well that whilst all of this was going on um

00:43:27.060 there were hecklings of racist uh in the courtroom as well well they were trying to play our own

00:43:34.360 political system against us basically by us i mean just white people right they know that that word

00:43:42.900 is like a magic spell that you can cast on people and make them freeze and and and basically to

00:43:48.260 grant you power whereas uh i don't think that it's going to have much power anymore no well

00:43:53.600 god willing the uh so the mother's sentencing hasn't actually come yet and at the time of

00:43:59.300 putting this segment together as well it seems that the crown prosecution service has brought

00:44:05.000 new charges against uh vikram digwar his brother and his father over the murder as well and so it

00:44:11.620 seems like the entire family will have their day in court over this matter but of course there are

00:44:19.760 other dimensions to all of this as well and as the bbc report on here hampshire and isle of white

00:44:26.380 constabulary has referred itself to the independent office for police conduct over the death as

00:44:32.220 officers initially handcuffed and then arrested the victim as he lost consciousness temporary

00:44:38.580 duty chief constable robert france told the bbc this was an extremely complex investigation

00:44:45.240 and actually the scene itself was extremely complex when the officers arrived they were

00:44:50.900 lied to in the 999 call by henry's killer they were lied to as they arrived at the scene and we

00:44:57.260 know that as a result they didn't understand what had happened for several minutes and that

00:45:02.220 is an absolute tragedy i'm sorry but that's not an excuse no i know it's not it's it's ridiculous

00:45:07.580 the fact that you expect not to have the full picture police are trained not to necessarily

00:45:13.680 take anything at face value you know i'm not a police officer but even i know that

00:45:17.740 and so when someone's lying on the floor barely able to move um thinking that actually you know

00:45:23.360 what we need to do we need to handcuff this guy and take the word of the people stood over him

00:45:28.240 that put him in that condition well that is negligence at best and not to be too graphic

00:45:34.200 but I mean

00:45:34.680 I watched

00:45:35.380 I'm sure you've all

00:45:36.040 watched the video

00:45:36.580 I'm going to play it

00:45:37.800 I think that's important

00:45:39.120 it's one of the most

00:45:40.100 horrible things

00:45:40.580 I've ever seen

00:45:41.060 but you can

00:45:42.080 you can hear

00:45:43.000 Novak

00:45:44.120 gurgling

00:45:45.420 you can hear him

00:45:46.420 rattling the breath

00:45:47.880 in a way that only

00:45:49.120 suggests

00:45:49.720 you know

00:45:51.200 some kind of

00:45:52.300 extreme injury

00:45:53.240 and they should

00:45:54.260 they would be trained

00:45:55.240 to recognise that

00:45:56.360 as well

00:45:57.060 sorry Stelios

00:45:57.760 and knee-jerk reactions

00:45:58.880 are very revealing

00:45:59.800 and the police's

00:46:01.540 knee-jerk reaction

00:46:02.580 here is

00:46:03.240 adds an extra layer into the disgusting nature of this case and so um there was a lot of

00:46:12.260 equivocating there was a lot of the police trying to get out of their own accountability in all of

00:46:18.060 this now i want to reiterate not that they could according to the report from the trial have saved

00:46:24.620 henry's life but as with the case with vikram's family so it is here as well that the police have

00:46:32.360 no reason to believe that at the time and when a man is on the floor and let's not forget as well

00:46:37.620 that his face was slashed so there was evidence of a knife wound on him that was not hidden beneath

00:46:44.780 his dark jumper at the time and was not hiding the extent of the blood that was filling into his own

00:46:50.940 body but obviously he had sustained a visible knife wound and so from there by extension is it

00:46:58.240 not obvious that when a man says i've been stabbed i can't breathe that there may be some truth to

00:47:05.520 what he is saying and he's not and again i know we're going to watch it but he's he's he's groaning

00:47:10.460 he's clearly in pain yes well yeah but he used the racist accusation so the police had to

00:47:17.080 completely go arrow 404 and so we are going to watch it now i will just say that this is not

00:47:24.860 graphic insofar as you do not see really a great deal of blood but the but i think it's important

00:47:32.400 that everyone does watch it actually i think that it's we all have a duty to confront the very evil 1.00

00:47:40.880 that has been allowed to permeate across our streets in the name of this ethnic religious

00:47:47.480 tribalism as demonstrated by the family and the complicity by the police and so i'm going to play

00:47:53.920 it in its entirety.

00:47:56.100 He was on the bin on the other side of this

00:47:58.100 gate. He's jumped over these fences and stuff

00:48:00.080 like that.

00:48:01.480 He's obviously

00:48:03.280 he's fallen from there and he's slipped from there.

00:48:05.660 There's other shoes left over there, mate.

00:48:07.420 What's your name, mate?

00:48:09.220 Has anyone been hurt other than him?

00:48:14.260 Yeah, me.

00:48:14.940 He's grabbed my brother, he's took my turban off

00:48:17.160 so I grabbed him my head. Are you injured?

00:48:19.140 Yeah, yeah, I've got swollen eye, a little bruised.

00:48:21.440 Alright, just step back a little bit for me.

00:48:22.780 someone flag these down let's get you out of there, shall we? 0.80

00:48:35.780 grab his other arm

00:48:42.780 what's happened to you right?

00:48:45.780 you've been stabbed, where abouts?

00:48:48.780 I don't think you have, mate.

00:48:56.780 Hand.

00:49:00.780 Put the hand in the cuff, mate.

00:49:12.780 You're into foot.

00:49:18.780 I'm saying he's been stabbed so let's just check him.

00:49:22.780 Where do you think he's been stabbed? In the face?

00:49:26.780 Oh no but we have to check don't we? Right. In the face?

00:49:30.780 Just get these back off, get their details on that and I'll keep hold of them.

00:49:38.780 Right, keep you on your side mate.

00:49:40.780 Have you had a reed reef then?

00:49:42.780 Same to him, keeping him on his side.

00:49:44.780 keeping him on his side. He was sat up when we had him here but he didn't like it.

00:49:50.780 What's your name mate? By the moment you are under arrest and that's for assault so you

00:49:56.180 do not have to say anything may harm a defence if you do not mention when questioned, it's

00:49:59.280 up to which you later rely on the court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence, alright?

00:50:02.780 He's going to be sick I think.

00:50:14.780 What's his name?

00:50:16.780 They just want you to call it.

00:50:20.780 Yeah, we've got this male, he's been beat up.

00:50:24.780 Are we able to get an ambulance please?

00:50:29.780 His pupils aren't even reacting.

00:50:36.780 So, there are several things about this of course.

00:50:40.780 The first is, I don't think you have mate.

00:50:44.780 just immediately dismissed him even as you hear it in the tone of his voice even as you can see

00:50:52.260 the fact that he's entirely incapacitated mate as well mate so flippant yeah um it's genuinely

00:51:01.380 terrible and you can even hear in the background the bickering from the family about racism this

00:51:06.940 racism that even even as this horror is playing out in front of everyone well you can hear them

00:51:12.780 the background as well saying he's not been stabbed yeah just just nakedly lying i mean how

00:51:17.900 can how can what how do they expect they could actually get away with that i don't know i mean 0.96

00:51:25.500 how can you have people from the third world who don't you aren't used to systems like ours

00:51:32.140 and so this photo has been going about um as they often do it seems every few months or so

00:51:38.460 a photo ends up coming across it just has such deep symbolism for the dark heart of what the

00:51:46.340 british state is doing uh to british people and it's really really disgusting um henry's father

00:51:54.560 of course gave a speech outside of the courtroom and for the sake of time i shan't play it in its

00:52:00.920 entirety but as it's quoted here he told officers he could not breathe nine times he said that he'd

00:52:07.060 been stabbed four times but the officer replied saying i don't think you have mate and the father

00:52:12.900 also just juxtaposes the very very lenient almost hospitable nature of how the police dealt with

00:52:22.100 digwa's family throughout this entire proceeding but also when you see someone who is lying there

00:52:29.680 obviously not a threat at the moment and he says i've been stabbed you also don't treat him this

00:52:35.500 way the way and also when someone's incapacitated like that you don't just drag them by the leg

00:52:40.860 right yeah um you know they would have had pretty extensive medical training i've had similar

00:52:46.340 training before perhaps not to the same extent of as police officers but comparable and when you

00:52:51.960 find someone incapacitated you don't know what injuries they've got you don't just drag them out

00:52:57.200 and i do wonder whether um the severity of the injuries were made worse just by how they were

00:53:01.980 sort of throwing him around moving him about like if someone's got a serious injury you don't just

00:53:07.640 throw their body around well this is the point i mean they in my view they obviously thought he

00:53:12.720 was drunk or something because he was incoherent because he'd been stabbed i think it was an hour

00:53:18.260 before you know a long period of time had passed between the police the stabbing and the police

00:53:22.460 police arriving so if you'd been stabbed in the chest and one of your lungs had filled with with

00:53:26.940 two pints of blood yeah you you would not of course you wouldn't be all there and you can

00:53:30.840 never crossed their minds that he could that he could actually have been stabbed i mean to be

00:53:36.520 honest with you as well the other thing is just to say that it was already unbelievable when we

00:53:43.140 first heard about this story and the fact that he was cuffed because of the accusations of racism

00:53:49.380 even as he was there on the ground but then to see it on video to hear what the that cop in

00:53:56.360 particular is saying who is coughing him and to see the manner in which he has been dealt with

00:54:01.700 i mean that that police officer even darker he deserves things that i'm not prepared to say

00:54:06.920 on a public planet and probably quite wise the indifference from the police they're just almost

00:54:12.540 like a jaded bureaucrat just treating it like a mundane procedure as someone's dying is about as

00:54:19.300 dark as it could possibly get it's the you know the the silicon gloves and everything i mean the

00:54:24.020 whole the whole every aspect of it it's so drained of humanity isn't it the cold arm of the law

00:54:30.320 uh and so as morgoth points out here regime minions will look for an off-ramp from this story

00:54:36.460 because it is so evil what has been allowed it says by a foregrounding knife crime overstretched

00:54:45.600 policing uh are police sufficiently trained story hydract by the far right so it can just be

00:54:51.580 invalidated and we can just you know sweep it under the carpet all of the tricks we know their

00:54:56.620 games by now we've been we've borne witness to them our entire lives that's just stopped so i'll

00:55:03.780 just move on with here um so after uh lindsey hoyle ended up the speaker of the house ended up having

00:55:10.500 to intervene and force the government to actually issue a statement on it i do believe that shabana

00:55:16.580 Mahmood will be giving a statement at about half past two when this podcast ends, and I'll obviously

00:55:22.320 end up watching that myself. But Keir Starmer certainly managed to tick off one of the list

00:55:29.600 that Morgoth gave, which is that this is an awful shocking scene. Henry's loved ones have gone

00:55:35.940 through the trauma of a long trial and endured Henry's killer, making up appalling claims about

00:55:40.800 their son who was a thoughtful kind and deeply loving uh deeply loved uh and then we immediately

00:55:46.480 get back to and we must end the cycle of tragedy by tackling the horror of knife crime did he have

00:55:53.340 an healing session with angela rayner the way he did when the events with george floyd took place

00:56:00.380 there's no cobra meeting there's no special lobbying interest group to care for henry's

00:56:05.600 concerns any tough talk about the full force of the law no also noticed that uh no one's burnt

00:56:12.400 any shops down or rioted um or anything like that no different class of person cares about this i

00:56:19.240 think yeah well you know what i suppose that's just been our cultural identity as brits for a

00:56:24.640 while hasn't it we're rather sensible people actually in the grand scheme of things um and

00:56:29.620 And as Dan rightly points out here, it's just a bland, unimpassioned response eventually

00:56:35.200 made on Henry Novak only after being forced to by the Speaker.

00:56:39.260 And as he says, compare that to a sheer zeal of the multiple furious tweets after some

00:56:44.500 Jewish ambulances were set on fire for which he required no forcing or comment whatsoever.

00:56:51.000 And so again, all of this just serves to accentuate this entire murder is just the microcosm

00:56:58.660 before our eyes of two-tier policing, of the fact that we're just,

00:57:03.220 there is no number of British lives that actually can be a limited loss

00:57:10.200 before the government will pivot in any meaningful way,

00:57:14.400 both Tory and Labour in that case.

00:57:18.580 And so, of course, then we come on to the fact that the Sikh community, right,

00:57:22.860 because, and this is something as well, forgive me,

00:57:24.920 there was a particular part in the uh in the court write-ups as well where the judge expressly says

00:57:32.580 look did you have did you have no consideration for the the optics of what this was going to do

00:57:38.500 to your community well that's the norm mcdonald uh joke isn't it of just like the a dirty bomb

00:57:45.220 over new york the most horrifying thing about it would be the the blowback against innocent

00:57:50.200 muslims just like i'm sorry no actually the worst thing is the 18 year old boy that was murdered

00:57:56.320 yeah and of course it is i will say it is by comparison rarer that you see the crime committed 0.96

00:58:06.000 by sikh communities to those of the pakistanis those of the african communities etc etc i grant

00:58:12.100 this in the name of honesty and transparency but what i do need to point out is the fact that within

00:58:17.820 this statement and the very way that it's written up is the fact that we're very very sorry for the

00:58:24.240 loss of henry and his family and all of this this is absolutely terrible please don't take our

00:58:28.900 capans away right i mean there's no there's no wrestling with this um statement from the

00:58:35.780 community because you know obviously every time something happens to henry we just have some

00:58:41.020 spokesman written on behalf of the british community to voice our concerns about such

00:58:46.100 things but the other thing as well is just the fact that there is no wrangling in here with the

00:58:51.400 current state that the british find themselves in their own homeland there is no ethnic concern for

00:58:57.560 our plight what we are going through the very real danger that brits feel on the streets every every

00:59:03.200 day it's just a case of think about how this impacts us and please don't use this to draw

00:59:09.980 any conclusions that don't have us at the foreground of your concerns and so that's why I

00:59:17.340 just wanted to draw on your tweet Charlie which is that where you say we don't want a statement

00:59:21.780 this actually comes after from not the whole community but Digwa's family in particular and

00:59:27.560 as you say we don't want a statement from the Digwa family we want them on the plane back to 0.99

00:59:32.060 the third world where they belong. I mean it's just the part of their statement that says we 1.00

00:59:37.140 would give anything to turn back time so the path of both henry and vikram never crossed that night

00:59:41.440 as if it was just it was just something that happened their paths crossed and this was the

00:59:46.080 outcome no this was you know this was cold-blooded murder your son that they're still defending

00:59:50.460 and tried to cover for yeah and also as well okay we wish they'd never have crossed that night it's

00:59:56.000 like okay but if your son was capable of doing that then he would have crossed some other poor

01:00:00.960 unfortunate bystander another night or another night we're not just talking about forces of

01:00:05.620 nature no exactly and also who wrote this who wrote the previous statement are we really expected

01:00:11.440 to believe that the family that covered for him which are now facing charges for doing so

01:00:15.340 wrote this no it will have been possibly somebody in the state posse possibly some kind of pr firm

01:00:22.000 because we know that we know this is what happens when incidents like this happen we know that these

01:00:27.700 kind of um what do you call them the kind of management units within the government um curate

01:00:32.680 the messaging so as not to inflame perception management that's the one yeah uh so as not to

01:00:37.120 inflame you know uh backlash right um and then so to to draw back on something that we were saying

01:00:43.960 from the beginning and i think a point that you were making josh was that now okay so he's been

01:00:48.980 given a life sentence that's not justice it's as close to justice as we can get within the current

01:00:56.780 paradigm but that is not to be confused with actual justice and i think that restore britain

01:01:03.800 are very correct when they point out that their government were they to have a majority

01:01:08.320 with the british people's approval would obviously put vikram digwar to death for what he has done

01:01:14.500 yes there would be capital punishment because what is the alternative as you say um henry's

01:01:21.240 own family, paying taxes to the upkeep of their son's murderer, as is the case with

01:01:28.540 Ruda Cabana, as is the case with those who are imprisoned for the rape gangs, and so

01:01:33.920 many more besides.

01:01:35.520 Well, as it stands at the minute, housing the average prisoner costs more than the average

01:01:40.920 British person earns, which is just an absurd state of affairs.

01:01:46.240 And so I would just conclude with this statement from Rupert, where he says,

01:01:51.240 How many more young British men and women are going to die, bleeding in the streets, alone and terrified,

01:01:57.320 cuffed in a pool of their own blood, begging for help?

01:01:59.880 How many more parents are going to stand there and say that they couldn't help their children in their dying moments,

01:02:06.020 apologising to the dead children because they couldn't stop it from happening?

01:02:09.940 How many more?

01:02:11.200 This is going to happen again, and again, and again.

01:02:15.120 It's happening right now in every city across the country. 0.89

01:02:18.280 rape sexual torture even worse mass industrial abuse of british children henry nowak is one of

01:02:25.880 thousands and thousands and thousands innocent young men and women put through the most 0.95

01:02:30.760 unimaginable pain because our country has failed to do what needed to be done because children 1.00

01:02:36.280 have been sacrificed to death in order to appease foreign cultures that have no place in our 1.00

01:02:41.940 country i have had enough of all of it i'm going to look back in anger and i urge you all to do 0.99

01:02:49.140 the same and i think that that is a strong statement because ultimately every single

01:02:55.960 time that something like this happens um the establishment reaction to it is only ever as

01:03:04.340 an inconvenience in a wider narrative and in a wider perverse project that they intend to

01:03:11.860 drag future generations kicking and screaming into and so for for henry for everyone that

01:03:20.180 rupert names here and everyone included in those categories we must win this we must win 0.52

01:03:29.140 that's a random name says the system treats the crimes and atrocities committed by our enrichers

01:03:34.420 as natural disasters as though life just happens to them and their victims well it implicit in all

01:03:40.740 of this is that they they only believe white people have agency basically um they treat people

01:03:47.560 from other parts of the world as if you know you know it was gonna happen it's inevitable so don't

01:03:53.060 hold them to the same standards cookie boy 23 our politicians used to actually be people who were

01:03:58.460 useful to society next one's a fed post quickly on what you just said if we made our immigration

01:04:03.500 policy on the basis of that attitude we would actually have a far better country the one that

01:04:08.580 just said genuine 40 and barber says afternoon brothers charlie thank you for popping on uh

01:04:14.500 beau's breakfast this morning wow this case of henry nowak is so horrible it's no wonder

01:04:20.260 the save europe act is gaining popularity one tall order says i relate heavily with joshua's

01:04:26.100 thousand yard stare for the majority of the segment while luca relate the details of the murder it's

01:04:31.380 also tiresome yeah um fallen farber says that he would be lucky if he didn't rightfully get beaten

01:04:41.200 to a pulp if he asked his family to assist him in in such crimes cookie boy 23 who the handcuffs a

01:04:48.960 man who's obviously in trouble the dad even said he would had to prop him up um that's a random

01:04:56.720 name says let's be honest the only reason some semblance of justice is being done for henry

01:05:02.320 is because the establishment wants to avoid another south port kickoff i mean the oh sorry

01:05:07.840 no go on i was just going to say these past two years it's been obvious in just how the

01:05:12.400 government's been dealing with things they are absolutely terrified because we came a couple of

01:05:17.680 cities away um from total anarchy basically the police weren't able to cope if it went from about

01:05:23.920 was it 26 28 something like that cities to maybe 30 35 then the police couldn't have dealt with it

01:05:30.400 and then it would have spiraled out of control and don't forget as well there are entirely that

01:05:34.480 that was just on the basis of southport but just think of as well about the things that are

01:05:39.040 unconnected to southport like the uh fires and anarchy that we saw in leeds just the other year 0.83

01:05:45.520 because some uh i think it was some uh gypsy yeah was being you know reprimanded by the law and they 0.89

01:05:52.400 old kicked off about it so he can't tells me it's gypsy month uh next one's a fed post and i'll read 0.67

01:05:58.400 just one more because we have to move um amand in 512 says he couldn't breathe because his lungs

01:06:05.280 were filling with blood horrible yeah right we are gonna change tone now the cheer us all up

01:06:13.840 we are gonna talk about the slums of india and lase lund a norwegian finn who grew up in india

01:06:24.640 okay that's so it's a very wild story i've only seen some small parts of this so i'm really

01:06:31.120 interested to see which way it goes because the thing that struck me was it he he's this guy

01:06:37.600 quite a big guy um who allegedly grew up in india uh how how did that happen tell us the story of

01:06:45.840 how i will sing i will sing the song of la saloon right so i first of all i will say that i have

01:06:52.880 watched these videos and i kind of i kind of like him he seems like an okay dude yeah right okay so

01:06:59.440 your favorite indian man he has conquered the internet the last month you may not have come

01:07:06.640 across him but you will i'm going to make certain that you will learn the name i'm gonna sing his

01:07:15.520 song right here this was just one month ago he has this um channel unexpected paths and he has

01:07:23.920 some videos here and he is having a q a so he is gonna answer your question josh

01:07:30.960 and he has this documentary here with a title norwegian boy left in mumbai slums by parents

01:07:40.640 half a million views on that six days ago six days ago right um a short walk through his past

01:07:47.960 and here this was a call for social media audiences to actually help him because he has

01:07:55.740 actually went through some really bad experiences and initially i thought he was a troll

01:08:01.640 but actually i don't think he is so we are going to go to i'm going to expose you to a very

01:08:09.620 unexpected story and i really hope that justice is delivered and i will join his fight against

01:08:17.620 the injustice that has happened to him right so let's focus here on reddit one thing is

01:08:25.500 we have i'm gonna show you some yes absolutely i'm gonna show you some clips i think that it's

01:08:31.280 very important to listen to lase and actually understand what has happened and i do have some

01:08:37.780 questions i think that he does have to answer them because in the first video he released about a

01:08:44.900 month ago he mentioned something about his parents but also mentioned brothers and a sister i don't

01:08:52.300 thing that brothers and his sister have been mentioned again in the next in the next video

01:08:58.720 so i'm hoping that there is going to be an update as he has said we've only been exposed to roughly

01:09:05.000 five percent of his whole story it's like the tip of the iceberg it's like we have only watched the

01:09:10.360 tip of the iceberg and the actual iceberg is underwater and i actually want to well we trust

01:09:16.360 use delios to go and explore the entire thing right so i want to um i want to you to be prepared

01:09:24.740 he has grievances against the finnish government and the and the norwegian government and

01:09:32.160 i was left in india i would feel much the same yeah so let's listen to him i was lost between

01:09:38.060 borders norwegian citizen born in norway stuck in india living on the streets surviving being a 0.93

01:09:45.940 tourist guide smoking on the fucking roads don't you think i want to get some kind of 0.98

01:09:51.680 adjustment against the comment when i'm 33 years old have zero schooling they haven't done the 0.99

01:09:55.840 shit that they were supposed to do the finnish embassy when they helped me out of the country 0.62

01:09:59.580 they were supposed to report me to the children's services because i was under 18 did they do their 0.99

01:10:04.040 job no they didn't do their job thanks to them i don't have fucking nothing i even told the 0.99

01:10:09.180 norwegian government once i came back to norway i have no school then they should have fucking 0.99

01:10:13.720 done some kind of research find out why don't i have school what's the reason no fucking european 0.99

01:10:19.400 where at least from a fucking one of the richest countries in the world don't have fucking schooling 0.99

01:10:24.780 there must be a reason to it why they don't do fucking their background check because they know 0.98

01:10:29.360 they are in the wrong right so government need to do the need he's using the wrong 0.58

01:10:33.960 to redeem his education don't they but first of all uh one of the many reasons why i like him is 0.52

01:10:40.260 that he's the white Samuel L. Jackson. 0.56

01:10:42.980 If you listen to him, he constantly throws F-bots. 0.97

01:10:46.040 I think he should be using bloody instead. 0.68

01:10:49.040 Honestly, it just reminds me of, you know, 0.97

01:10:50.780 Kim by Rudyard Kipling, 1.00

01:10:52.200 where you've just got this little Irish kid

01:10:53.860 in the streets of India,

01:10:55.320 and he's just raised to be, like, Indian in all but name,

01:10:58.680 and I'm getting those lines.

01:11:00.280 It's really jarring, actually, to hear that from him.

01:11:03.060 It's like hearing, like, a European-speak perfect Japanese.

01:11:08.440 It's very surprising. 0.51

01:11:10.260 well yeah but the point is that right now we have to peel the onion of deception with him and we

01:11:17.300 have to go descend upon layer upon layer we have to peel the through the layers and see what is

01:11:23.860 happening and i want to just ask myself how did he survive and why did his parents leave him there

01:11:32.740 so these are questions that we are going to answer to you and if his parents left him there does he

01:11:37.700 how would he know about his brothers and sisters i also have another question which is if he was a

01:11:42.900 beggar he must have been very good to get successful yeah actually he he says some interesting things

01:11:50.180 afterwards about how he it happened to answer to to represent mr lund in in your question

01:11:57.220 he went there and he he knew that he had a sister and brothers and they started leaving india right

01:12:03.460 by one so and then he parted ways with his sister and mother you will see why so it's not like he

01:12:10.900 he didn't know that he has okay siblings interesting right let's look at what he says here

01:12:16.580 that's what i'm gonna show people how you're gonna how we lived our life going on the streets

01:12:21.940 being a tourist guide how we made money hustling on the streets that was our life we didn't have

01:12:27.380 nothing else to do we used to make money and how we used to spend like this yeah because we never

01:12:32.420 thought of the future it was day by day we lived on the street no yeah and i didn't know any better

01:12:39.540 i was a kid no i was left behind here my mother in jail and father in norway brothers already left

01:12:48.180 if you guys was not there people from the slums were not there helping me out where i would be 0.85

01:12:53.060 I would fucking be somewhere maybe my kidneys would have been removed or something never know 1.00

01:12:57.660 I'm not even joking about that because the fucking lifestyle that I lived around these people are 0.99

01:13:04.360 fucking dangerous there are not any people to just to play around with you say the wrong word 0.99

01:13:09.200 you'll fucking get beaten up that's the kind of people they all the time have a fucking gun on 0.99

01:13:13.900 them it's not nice life that I lived yeah I've done wrong things in life but that was a survival 1.00

01:13:19.660 it was my life i couldn't do anything else i didn't have i imagine also him having scandinavian

01:13:26.020 heritage when he sort of grew up he would have just been like hulking over everyone like a head

01:13:31.960 and shoulders above everyone which i imagine probably would have helped i haven't seen him

01:13:36.040 stood up yet to be fair right so what happened here is that he went with his parents in india

01:13:42.780 when his parents were four years old his parents were four years old no when he was four years

01:13:47.900 pardon me when he was four years old here he's mentioning brothers but no mention of a sister

01:13:57.060 and there afterwards you know i really want to know what happened to both his brothers and his

01:14:02.400 sister but what happened is that he says that his parents were effing hippies and that they effing

01:14:08.380 left him unattended in several cases and that they effing were they were effing bad parents

01:14:14.720 thank you for censoring those at some point his father left for no norway and he stayed with his

01:14:21.600 mother and his sister he said that his brother started leaving one by one he said basically

01:14:27.200 that his father was there to be a hippie dj an effing hippie dj uh smoking and living the good

01:14:34.620 life djing on the side but the you know she hit the fan when he started in goa i think right

01:14:43.120 of course it's goer of course it is yeah he started a business with uh with another man

01:14:51.480 there who got slashed with a knife and then it got real and he couldn't understand this as

01:14:58.700 his hippie paradise and essentially they were switching places here and there and at some

01:15:05.460 point the father left for norway and question is what kind of father lives his wife and children

01:15:12.300 in india a pragmatic one

01:15:15.420 yeah so he left and then he said that roughly when he was about 10 that's what um

01:15:26.180 the consensus is when he was roughly about 10 the mother got jailed because of visa issues

01:15:35.760 they asked her for a passport and they said that she didn't have a visa and then she got jailed

01:15:41.500 And he was left on the streets to fend for himself, smoking on the effing roads.

01:15:48.700 So you just get jailed in India if your visa expires. 0.74

01:15:53.040 They can just be like, yeah, you can go back to where you came from. 1.00

01:15:57.260 Now I understand why they don't understand it when they're here.

01:15:59.400 So what happened is that he's actually...

01:16:02.400 Sorry, I was just going to say, I personally think that Modi should encourage him to go to Norway

01:16:08.540 to enhance the uh the indian diaspora well yes norway that is the thing here because he he did

01:16:15.000 go to norway at around age 17 so josh the question that you asked me in the beginning about the

01:16:23.160 visible size he has said it's a people it's a question people ask him he says that he he actually

01:16:31.020 sees food as a sort of form of consolation because he had a really rough life and he

01:16:37.780 ate quite a bit in Norway, not in the slums of India where there wasn't much food. But what is

01:16:44.120 actually interesting here, he says that he feels some loyalty to the people who helped him there

01:16:50.440 and he wants to simultaneously fight against the injustice that was dealt towards him by the

01:17:02.720 finnish and the norwegian governments and obviously his parents but also he wants to do a documentary

01:17:08.560 and help the people who helped him there he says that it was effing horrible to grow up in the slums

01:17:13.840 of india but he recognizes yes but he recognizes that the people who who helped him deserve some

01:17:20.960 it's quite some respect and help yeah right so let's look at here what this uh has to say

01:17:29.360 i do like that he literally just looks like a normal norwegian bloke yeah he right i could

01:17:35.980 walk past him in the street and think nothing of it and then he would speak and i'd be like

01:17:39.400 wait a minute haven't i spoke to you on the phone before norway say here from bored panda

01:17:44.940 norwegian man who speaks english with indian accent has become the internet's favorite mystery

01:17:50.780 his accent is convincing

01:17:53.000 his

01:17:53.920 story is wild

01:17:56.200 technology

01:17:59.520 right we have slump technology

01:18:01.720 where is

01:18:02.300 this effing mouse

01:18:05.000 give me some effing control of the mouse

01:18:09.620 right okay

01:18:11.200 opening the tab now

01:18:12.380 I've opened the new effing tab

01:18:14.360 what happened here

01:18:15.680 you need to press forward

01:18:16.960 press the effing forward button

01:18:20.040 okay so a man from norway has sparked a wave of curiosity online by claiming he was forced to grow

01:18:27.940 up on the streets of india okay homeless and without any education this guy should write a

01:18:33.200 book about his life one commented online a man from norway sparked right okay they're talking

01:18:38.760 about him here it's adverts as well right and essentially what he says is that the finnish

01:18:47.520 embassy was atrocious because he was 17 year old his father at some point remembered that he had a

01:18:56.160 son in in india maybe maybe the drugs if the drug effect wore out and he said hey i have a son i

01:19:03.220 haven't seen him in a while last time i checked he was in effing by seven years later as well

01:19:10.320 yes like seven how stoned was he though seven years to remember we are talking about hippie

01:19:16.440 a hippie who went to go to live his dj dream he had many kids and he just left and then they

01:19:23.940 started leaving one by one but he literally he left first it's like captain abundance the ship

01:19:31.200 last he really doesn't see himself as the captain of the idea that all the children are like your 0.67

01:19:36.160 dream sucks i'm getting out of here yeah yeah be your own man you know it's tough love yeah get

01:19:42.600 your own dream if you survive here you'll survive everywhere it's like the spartans leaving their 0.98

01:19:47.680 children on the mountain side yeah it's the same sort of thing this norwegian father went full

01:19:53.300 spartan there it's like i'm gonna leave you 10 years old in mumbai yeah it's actually based 0.89

01:19:58.360 that's that's that's the subtext your child can survive they deserve to live the mean streets of

01:20:04.880 mumbai but there is also another layer to to the plight of the of uh lase lund that he says and

01:20:12.020 this is actually a really good question the scandinavian establishment i mean the scandinavian

01:20:18.180 governments are supposed to be very much pro-welfare and somehow have rich social programs

01:20:24.460 So he said, well, how the hell did they not check out that he's registered, he's an underage, and he doesn't receive any schooling?

01:20:36.160 Also, when he was in contact with the Finnish embassy, they took him to Norway, but he said that they didn't contact the child services.

01:20:48.520 and as he said he was very young didn't know how the world was working he basically received no 0.85

01:20:54.440 education all the experiences that he had were from the slums of mumbai with hippie parents

01:21:00.840 that we can actually understand that they were not interested in supervising his his uh development

01:21:08.340 well there is certainly one kind of education yeah right so now he is going back to india to film

01:21:16.880 documentaries in the slums and he wants to say about he's very angry and i'd be very angry if i

01:21:23.980 were him as well and i actually feel if only he had some words with which you could express his

01:21:29.320 anger i mean i'd be angry if i just went to india on holiday let alone i had to live there

01:21:34.720 yes but what is interesting here is that he does say simultaneously that well it was a horrible

01:21:42.640 way to wake up to grow up but also he recognizes that some people helped him and he says some

01:21:48.920 interesting things here that i think are going to become more and more um relevant in the world

01:21:57.820 that we are living in sadly sadly but the will and he did say that he's not going to give us

01:22:03.040 advice if there's another toilet no no he he does say first of all some um things that there are

01:22:08.700 multiple criminal networks there most of it is weaponization of of the feeling of guilt

01:22:15.360 they have young kids there telling you that i don't have anything to eat please buy me something

01:22:23.100 and he says for instance that well it's it's a good thing to never um deny giving people food

01:22:31.500 but don't give them money because 70 to 80 percent of that doesn't go to them it goes to

01:22:37.700 the criminal networks that are taking advantage of them that's true everywhere to be honest like

01:22:42.040 you you should never give anyone money on the street ever like if someone says they're hungry

01:22:46.240 the usual one that gets trotted out to me in britain is oh i need a place to stay

01:22:50.660 and it's like well actually that the homeless shelters normally have capacity so it's not a

01:22:55.740 problem and then they get angry and then they threaten to fight me yeah that's pretty much

01:23:00.160 what happens and also i mean in a way he had to in order to survive he had to learn the code of

01:23:05.780 the streets because he didn't choose the streets the streets chose him but and he is really

01:23:12.040 transparent about it he didn't knew any better and says well now i i got completely abandoned

01:23:17.360 by my parents and also by the the governments that are supposed to be the the social welfare

01:23:25.440 governments who care about their people was completely left on in complete survival mode

01:23:31.860 it's actually incredibly impressive that he made it

01:23:34.660 yeah if all of this is genuine

01:23:36.560 and don't misunderstand me

01:23:39.020 I want to believe him

01:23:40.620 you know then yeah it really is

01:23:43.000 I think there's no way you can pick up

01:23:44.740 speaking like that

01:23:45.700 without growing up

01:23:48.640 right like there's no way

01:23:51.000 his story isn't real

01:23:52.600 I'd be surprised how convincing actors

01:23:54.660 can be Josh

01:23:55.540 I don't trust him

01:23:57.240 I'll just let him answer

01:24:00.540 the final question

01:24:01.540 but i um he says basically why his parents were in india just to repeat his father was a drug

01:24:11.820 dealer a dj his mother was a stoner they wanted to live the party life in goa and he became a dj

01:24:19.100 and it's what i said and they were going from poon to bumbay

01:24:23.180 yeah yeah

01:24:26.540 um they

01:24:29.580 this is the last question just why not book a fly home

01:24:34.200 i'll just leave him answer answer it let's unmute him

01:24:39.100 wow

01:24:42.880 yeah okay i'll just we we may have a couple right issues here because there is a

01:24:50.040 because there is a music play

01:24:52.300 in the background

01:24:52.860 constantly you know

01:24:55.200 anyway so he said

01:24:58.180 that he had problems with the embassies

01:25:00.060 and stuff and that they just

01:25:01.360 they were completely callous and uncaring

01:25:03.760 can we hear some more of him

01:25:05.700 can we skip forward

01:25:06.520 I'll just

01:25:08.060 move it here

01:25:10.660 I'll just leave it playing here

01:25:15.120 oh it's muted

01:25:16.100 it's muted but you may not

01:25:18.320 what you see censored censored he goes censored i wonder what he's saying let's look at what he 0.99

01:25:26.700 says here not a fucking person you come asking on the street give me some money give me some money 0.97

01:25:32.920 no because most of them are there for a reason it's their job they're there put out there by 1.00

01:25:39.460 their parents to make money so i'm not a kind of fucking stupid one that's gonna give them money 0.98

01:25:44.680 no I help people but I help the people that really need it because I can really prudent 0.96

01:25:50.340 anyway so I hope if if you're watching Lasse I'm with you I hope you you any kind of fun we did

01:25:58.560 it was on good terms I hope good faith I hope you redeem yourself

01:26:02.620 best of luck I will be watching this story closely and I hope the best for you right

01:26:10.220 uh very different tone that one yes dragon lady chris please tell me that the presence of charlie

01:26:19.020 josh luca and stelius today meet means it's the day for the men of the lotus eaters calendar

01:26:25.620 photo shoot yeah you got us i will tell you next year is going to be the year of the mog

01:26:31.960 right okay and uh fictages where's this guy's all year round now he has effing answered this

01:26:40.980 he's in norway for 16 years now people ask right let's go now to watch the videos

01:26:47.440 and then read some of the comments this is peter perr excuse me more francey jeffrey

01:26:54.600 I'm learning to speak all this by myself.

01:27:09.440 Flawless.

01:27:10.440 Okay, let's go.

01:27:11.440 I don't speak frock.

01:27:13.440 This is terrible.

01:27:15.880 There's this tweet going around that hits pretty hard here in Canada.

01:27:18.800 Of the 195 countries in the world, only six are in recession, and these are the esteemed

01:27:23.420 company. 1.00

01:27:24.420 Guinea famously the dumbest place on earth a nation of actual retards Burma 1.00

01:27:29.100 which is currently at war with their neighbors Yemen currently it's civil war 1.00

01:27:32.800 Venezuela a failed socialist state that was recently decapitated by the 0.99

01:27:36.900 America a failed state of cannibalistic retards right so it looks like we have 0.99

01:27:43.440 lots of videos from yesterday let's go and read some of the comments from the 1.00

01:27:51.060 from our segments

01:27:53.020 and right

01:27:55.260 Do you want me to start? Yeah yeah

01:27:57.440 Okay 0.93

01:27:58.480 Dirty Belter, what a name. Politicians

01:28:01.280 and middle class liberal snobs will listen to this

01:28:03.520 and still ask

01:28:04.720 Why did the Southport riots happen?

01:28:07.000 This has been Britain's century of humiliation

01:28:08.820 and will take many centuries to heal

01:28:10.440 I feel to the people involved

01:28:13.320 as Cato the Elder felt about Carthage

01:28:15.540 I understand

01:28:17.520 that reference and I agree

01:28:19.000 also I don't actually think

01:28:21.380 it will take a century to heal

01:28:22.940 actually the solution is quite simple

01:28:24.780 it will take less than a generation

01:28:27.260 in my opinion. More youth clubs

01:28:28.740 yeah that's what it is mate

01:28:30.280 youth clubs. More ping pong tables

01:28:32.900 yep that'll stop them stabbing

01:28:34.600 Daniel Butchers

01:28:36.920 says watching the thing

01:28:39.300 on child abuse stats I was disgusted

01:28:41.400 when at the end one of the MPs directly

01:28:43.360 asked about British

01:28:44.460 perpetrators

01:28:46.740 getting whole life orders and foreign

01:28:48.800 perpetrators getting deported the minister for women's health and safety dodged the question

01:28:52.920 by saying they will face the full force of the law i can't hear the full force of the law without

01:28:58.660 hearing a nasally kia star voice um it's been ruined for me really but anyway uh from uh my

01:29:06.520 segment uh thing scotty of swindon makes a great point here which is uh i know a week is a long

01:29:11.780 time in politics but remember how both the met police and kia starmer made heartfelt statements

01:29:17.500 about the mosque attack in the united states that was unprompted but systemic failures in the united

01:29:23.000 kingdom apparently don't matter until the speaker forces a reaction hate is a legitimate emotion

01:29:29.340 and you don't hate the state enough uh... yeah can't knock it all right and from um... just

01:29:38.320 trying to be careful forgive me that i don't fed post on here um... zesty king says uh... watching

01:29:44.760 how the police officers treated Henry Nowak

01:29:46.860 made me think of the quote

01:29:48.540 you never do

01:29:50.260 we never do evil

01:29:52.760 so fully and cheerfully as

01:29:54.740 when we do it out of conscience

01:29:56.940 it's a quote from a French writer whose

01:30:00.740 name I cannot pronounce

01:30:01.920 Blaise Pascal? Yeah that's the one

01:30:04.680 difficult one. Right

01:30:05.880 Samson I can see, let's play the

01:30:08.800 video. Ladies and gentlemen

01:30:10.860 now that it's June it's time for the most

01:30:12.800 important time of year 0.96

01:30:13.940 White Boy Summer

01:30:15.440 Our Lord and Master Carl has already started his celebrations

01:30:18.520 and I think we should all participate

01:30:20.100 I expect to see all of you acting festively

01:30:22.460 including, but not limited to

01:30:23.940 spending time with your friends and your family

01:30:26.000 enjoying your hobbies unapologetically

01:30:27.780 making substantial use of beer gardens and your favourite beverage

01:30:30.920 applying a judicious amount of sun cream

01:30:32.940 and having extensive outdoor barbecues and picnics

01:30:35.340 I wish all of you a very happy White Boy Summer 0.68

01:30:37.960 based may it be 0.55

01:30:39.020 Sun cream is an affront to nature

01:30:41.020 I agree with that

01:30:42.020 I don't believe in it

01:30:43.360 Sun cream is woke nonsense. 0.99

01:30:45.360 Let me burn. 0.99

01:30:46.360 Yeah. 0.67

01:30:47.360 Is that the king?

01:30:48.360 Hello, seaters. I come to you today from Whitehaven in Cumbria.

01:30:52.360 So if Whitehaven is famous for one thing, it is this.

01:30:56.360 John Paul Jones's attempted raid.

01:30:59.360 In 1778, during the American War for Independence,

01:31:02.360 John Paul Jones led a group of men here to Whitehaven on a raid on British shores.

01:31:08.360 his men then struggled to start a fight so they went to nearby pub to get some fuel instead they

01:31:14.360 got drunk and then were chased out of white haven and this is where that pub used to be

01:31:20.440 do we have other videos for today samson i don't think it's emphasized enough just how

01:31:26.840 much keynesian economics incentivizes extremely short-term thinking not only in state actors

01:31:30.840 but in private capital as well i work in video games and have experience getting projects

01:31:34.760 together. And once in a backers meeting, a guy stood up and said he wouldn't sign a check for

01:31:38.440 any project that guaranteed anything less than a 20-fold return on investment. The old reasonable

01:31:43.080 expectation of return on investment was no less than 11% returns in no more than nine years.

01:31:48.040 But if inflation is going to be double that in that time, why bother? So if anyone listening

01:31:51.960 is wondering why not just video games, but really everything generally, is such over-monetized 0.75

01:31:56.280 garbage that no one ever asked for desires, well there's your answer.

01:31:59.960 I'm glad someone's finally making that point that it is just inflation making everything 0.95

01:32:04.360 terrible like it economic policy is behind why most things are bad um because people are less

01:32:12.340 willing to to take the same risks i mean keynesianism is as uh our friend says completely

01:32:18.160 short-term thinking and it just erases savings and also leads people leads people and gives

01:32:25.740 them massive incentives to just lobby right dirty belter says thank you stellios for this most

01:32:31.580 amusing segment it makes the first two easier to stomach told you in the beginning it was going to

01:32:37.340 be a a roller coaster emotionally speaking let's play the other video comment did we just have

01:32:44.920 Peter Pearl has some news from LA so Prince of Pratt the guy running for mayor he has the politics

01:32:53.640 of Carl Benjamin so imagine Carl running for mayor for London and somehow Carl's actually

01:33:01.520 of making a show against shikik khan and against all the fraud he's actually having grassroot

01:33:08.960 effect and everyone kind of likes him because it's gone that bad that karl could win

01:33:14.560 visions of based world yes feign scotius swindon odin among the frost giants bollywood edition

01:33:22.020 lord inquisitor hector x imagine being blind and hearing that guy talk and trying to picture him

01:33:28.080 in your in your mind and fane scotty again says lotus eaters didn't redeem their ad blocker

01:33:36.660 yeah that was that was the most ad loaded website i've seen in many years yeah and hm button knife

01:33:44.200 permit registry final uh not final penultimate comment norwegian parental abandonment in india

01:33:51.140 apparently creates a welshman and i have to end with the next one flambuff mcflambuff

01:33:58.080 stelios and his effing canons again i'm a canon appreciator i mean i've said it so i know

01:34:07.400 everyone here is a canon appreciator it's a universal theme right okay so um thank you very

01:34:15.200 much gentlemen for joining us today always a pleasure thank you luca thank you charlie

01:34:20.420 thank you josh thank you all for being here i understand it was these were tough segments

01:34:26.920 so peace be with you see you tomorrow at 1 p.m i hope you're well goodbye

01:34:50.420 Thank you.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 02, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1431

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript