The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1432

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to Podcast of the Lotus Eaters. It is episode 1423. On Wednesday, the 2nd of June, year of our law, 2026, I'm joined by Harry.

00:00:10.600 Hello! And also a special guest, Harrison Pitt.

00:00:13.720 How do you do, gentlemen?

00:00:14.940 Hello.

00:00:15.720 Good to be here.

00:00:16.260 We've assembled a top team, and we're going to be discussing various aspects of the Henry Nowak case.

00:00:23.420 So we're going to talk about the Southampton protest just down the road from me last night.

00:00:27.140 um then we've got a bit of uh bit of speculation on why is this happening now why is the regime

00:00:32.640 getting squeaky bums yeah why why is this story exploding now whereas similar stories get swept

00:00:38.440 under the rug almost immediately and uh then we'll be asking um why why are the police even like this

00:00:44.940 why is the state like this how did we get to this point so we're beginning coming at it from all

00:00:49.420 angles so uh with that let's talk about the um protests down the road from me in southampton

00:00:55.600 last night i i i was very tempted to go along but i thought well better not better not but it better

00:01:02.540 stay on the commenting side facial recognition and everything being what it is well and having a

00:01:07.080 slightly recognizable face yeah and provocateurs and showing up and throwing like i'm sure i saw

00:01:13.060 people throwing romans at the front of some of the crowds which just seemed like yes provocation

00:01:18.560 some of that was a bit silly but we we get into that um so i mean first of all if you are a uh 0.95

00:01:25.520 massive shit lib and you are for some reason watching this stream you may be wondering why 0.95

00:01:29.520 were the people in southampton protesting and i can answer that question with these are yesterday's 0.99

00:01:34.820 newspapers um as you can see no mention of um two-tier policing um anti-white bias um henry

00:01:44.640 at all just just nothing yesterday i will say it's a bit that is very different today

00:01:49.600 uh funnily enough yes let's have a look at today there we go every paper is now covering the story

00:01:59.060 so if you're wondering why there we go the iconic photo of the boy being arrested moments before he

00:02:07.460 dies um so if you're wondering why people were protesting well that's your answer because uh

00:02:12.840 the british state would love to have this covered up forever yes um if people didn't push back in

00:02:18.900 anyway um so yes what what's what's going on here so um this is an area I know quite well because

00:02:27.100 look basically the way Southampton works is you've got the you've got the university up here

00:02:31.540 um and then is a sort of short walk down to Portswood and Portswood is basically the cheapest

00:02:38.020 bit of Southampton and so that's where all the students lived so I actually lived uh where was

00:02:44.400 it um about here um and the murder took place here so it was just it was just one street away

00:02:51.080 so i'm sort of rather familiar with this area um what i did do is i did watch most of the uh well

00:02:57.920 i watched pretty much all of the protest actually in real time let me let me just start this rolling

00:03:03.020 because we're just going to talk oh dear there we go do i do i max screen that samson does that

00:03:08.400 come out clean good that should be okay so um here we are down um in southampton town this guy got

00:03:16.800 here a bit early there we go there's the uh the police building now people start trickling so the

00:03:24.680 police they've they've got a handful of them up there a few more turning up they know there's

00:03:29.340 going to be a protest at six they clearly didn't quite realize what they're in for they thought it

00:03:34.220 was probably going to be something like this um for the rest of the evening so so there we are um

00:03:39.860 a bit before six crowd starts to grow a bit um a bit more quite a bit more

00:03:51.160 um and then it just becomes throngs and it keeps on basically it keeps on growing the police really

00:03:59.760 had no idea what they're up for i mean they actually start off um at at the beginning they're

00:04:05.700 sort of holding their line at the bottom of the stairs and as you can see not very not very long

00:04:09.980 in um they kind of push back to the stairs because of the sheer depth of bodies that have turned up

00:04:14.880 for this thing um thoughts on the on the protest before we dig into any of the interesting bits

00:04:21.540 well i mean this i mean this is to be this is to be expected the only surprising thing is that it

00:04:26.880 it's taken obviously we have a you know the occasional like south port was an example there

00:04:31.860 are times when the the rage of the host population does reach boiling point and it needs to find

00:04:37.460 some way uh of expressing itself but we can only expect to see more and more of this uh intensified

00:04:43.240 further if our elite class continues to force a sort of demographic experiment on the host people

00:04:50.460 peoples of these islands a sort of sociological bio sociobiological wager on human nature

00:04:56.280 sooner or later people are going to to respond in this fashion and particularly when you throw in

00:05:01.240 the kind of politicized two-tier nature of the case too it is more or less everything that they

00:05:05.260 told us george floyd was times a times a hundred as well with the advantage of actually being a

00:05:10.860 real case i mean yeah i said what they told yes what they told us that was and there's just been

00:05:14.800 a book published by passage press which is called american scapegoat which digs into the george

00:05:18.340 floyd case i haven't had a chance to read it yet in granular detail uh but you know this is a sort

00:05:23.480 of slam dunk case of genuine uh um prejudice influencing the behavior of of the police yeah

00:05:30.020 there's there's no question to the actual cause of henry novak's death nor and nor is there any

00:05:35.500 sort of um checkered past that we have to dig into exactly he was just a good kid who was going to

00:05:41.680 university i mean to put it this way he never held a loaded gun to a pregnant woman's um stomach no

00:05:47.100 But crucially as well, even if people do think that Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd either through manslaughter or murder, no one actually ever, not even the prosecution in the George Floyd case, ever sought to establish any kind of racist motive.

00:05:58.620 Oh yeah, that's always something that's left out.

00:06:00.480 It's something that's always forgotten, whereas in this case, because the police is an institution,

00:06:06.300 all police forces is an institution, but it seems Hampshire police as well,

00:06:09.460 are so marinated in sort of anti-racist TM ideology,

00:06:13.360 they see their own institution as already being compromised and checkered by McPherson and Stephen Lawrence and all the rest of it.

00:06:20.520 So rather than policing without fear or favour, they see it as their way to be sort of active in correcting for previous injustices.

00:06:28.420 And Henry Novak has proved a victim of exactly that diversitarian drive.

00:06:34.800 It's not just the police, though, as well. 0.57

00:06:37.120 One of the other racial aspects of this,

00:06:39.960 the ways in which this case was inherently racialised

00:06:43.360 before it even reached the public,

00:06:45.020 was the behaviour of the Diguar family in the first place,

00:06:47.940 who knew immediately that, one, they would be sticking together,

00:06:52.860 tribally, not just as a family, but also racially,

00:06:55.320 and two that they could use the racist card to try and imagine you could use the magic words 0.69

00:07:00.080 yeah they could use the voodoo hex curse yeah to get away with it now thankfully this time 0.99

00:07:05.960 it's in the long run it's failed yes and the scumbag who stabbed henry novak to death has 0.96

00:07:11.240 been put away for life 21 years minimum i think is the reporting that i've seen but the fact that 0.95

00:07:17.380 they thought bear in mind with 21 years he will he could get out when he's younger than i am now

00:07:21.960 that's still a tragedy yes but still he has he's not been given a suspended sentence there's no

00:07:27.140 talk of like like uh removing certain sentencing or whatever uh but it's all it's also if you read

00:07:33.100 a millennial woes substack article on it which is probably the most detailed breakdown that i've

00:07:37.480 seen uh the way it's described that in the time after he's been stabbed and the family shows up

00:07:42.600 that they go out of their way to hold him down prevent him from seeking any help make sure he

00:07:48.880 doesn't have access to a phone they don't phone an ambulance they just immediately say it doesn't

00:07:54.240 matter if my son's telling the truth or not we're going to stick by him no matter what and think

00:07:58.860 that they can get away with it and that boy's last moments on earth were one being really abused by

00:08:05.300 the police and the family who were stood around talking in a foreign language conspiring against

00:08:10.140 him that's a tragedy that's horrifying and people aren't very happy about that the fact that they

00:08:17.000 knew they could get so so to your point about the sort of the the waters that the police are

00:08:20.680 marinated in so i know people on both sides of this i mean obviously i know loz and a whole

00:08:23.720 bunch of people in these crowd but i i also because my father was a police officer and i

00:08:28.280 sort of grew up around people who then later went into the police i know people in hampshire police

00:08:32.560 as well uh none of the ones that i've recognized from this video but they tell me that they are

00:08:37.960 told pretty much daily don't be racist that it is absolutely drumbeat into them all the time it is

00:08:45.620 by far and away their highest priority not murders not rapes not solving crime not keeping people

00:08:52.780 safe racism drumbeat and and the guys who've been in for a while tell me they've had that every day

00:08:58.800 for 20 plus years however long they've been in the place so anyway um people start turning up

00:09:04.440 and talking we've got lozza there talking a whole bunch of other people um talk as well i think

00:09:09.620 tommy comes in and let me see two we've got a good almost an hour of talking tommy is the last

00:09:17.580 speaker who comes up around about here um he gives a speech puncher than he normally gives actually

00:09:24.840 um and as you can see the police are they had no idea what the police they had no idea what

00:09:32.840 they were walking into with this they thought it was going to be a minor protest now you're

00:09:36.940 are probably going to be hearing in the next few days about how everybody here is just a far-right

00:09:40.880 thug and a racist for most of this for the first five six hours of this video the crowd could have

00:09:46.760 rolled over the police at any time they wanted to they easily had the numbers they didn't do that 0.85

00:09:51.780 um so anyway tommy stands up and he gives a speech um in all of this and he ends it with okay well

00:09:58.080 let's you know we've set up it let's walk away now let's walk down to portswood uh because this

00:10:02.860 is more the more the southern end of southampton um let me just turn the sound on for a bit maybe

00:10:10.100 we catch the bit where you see john in that crowd as well john john was there yeah he was

00:10:14.040 okay i think i think he that was just after the bit he said right let's let's move on

00:10:29.460 unfortunately as the crowd was starting to dissipate suddenly the police found their

00:10:37.340 courage and that was when they started trying to push people down the stairs so as people are

00:10:41.840 starting to leave um you see suddenly this they're trying to shove people down the stairs now they

00:10:46.240 they suddenly found that found their stones and this was the time they were gonna they were gonna

00:10:50.220 because because those are steps there uh they decided they were going to start pushing people

00:10:54.180 down the stairs which is try and push past them into the police station doesn't look like it no

00:10:58.360 they're all leaving this is this is just after they've said they're leaving and the crowd is

00:11:01.300 starting to move off and as you can see they're trying to get out they're trying they're trying

00:11:04.940 to leave this this just sounds like the crowd bulged a little bit as everybody started to move

00:11:09.520 away and the police just went right that's our signal yeah yeah exactly i mean they could have

00:11:14.540 just stepped back and let them go but no um i mean this this happened numerous times with this

00:11:19.080 um so anyway then they got a bit of a walk it is a bit of a walk uh to get down from southern

00:11:24.140 because Southampton is a slightly weirdly laid out city they've got to then walk up to up to

00:11:29.400 Portswood here so it's a bit of a chat a bit of a walk so there's a bit of time that goes by

00:11:33.740 until they eventually get down to Ports where they get into Portswood walk through that

00:11:38.080 and they arrive at the location of well this isn't the this is where the murder happened it's just

00:11:45.980 down that road on the on the right hand side and the police form a line here the reason the police

00:11:50.760 form a line here because one of those houses down there i wouldn't normally say locations like this

00:11:54.880 but it's it's everywhere so everybody already knows um you know the locations of these things

00:11:59.940 everybody in south hampton knows this already um down there is the houses of the of the digwas

00:12:04.580 um where they were and so the police formed the line here because you know god forbid um the dig

00:12:11.620 were family to get a broken window or anything like that so so they turn out in force uh by the

00:12:17.020 way this uk sploosh was was great for this uh there's a there's a live stream on it covering

00:12:21.180 the whole thing um and let me see and they're taking the knee yeah this this this was a constant

00:12:28.240 theme in it they the crowd when it was still thin like this they kept on sort of you know saying

00:12:33.380 well look you took a knee for george floyd you're gonna take a knee for henry it's a clever move

00:12:37.740 that and it's extraordinary the extent to which this has become salient just coming in here

00:12:42.200 coming into um swindon now i had a bit of train trouble i was waiting outside train stations quite

00:12:47.680 a lot and the number of people just ordinary people going about their day-to-day work tradesman

00:12:51.680 types who were talking about this and not just talking about it as a disgrace unto itself which

00:12:55.380 which it is but but uh exposing the contrast between um how the our sort of elite institutions

00:13:02.340 and indeed our leaders reacted to uh a you know basically a serial um criminal in the form of

00:13:09.200 george floyd yes and who was a u.s citizen who was a u.s citizen in minneapolis overdosing on

00:13:14.580 overdosing on fentanyl in all likelihood as compared to this which is a slam dunk case of

00:13:19.040 police negligence combined with you know obviously murder now convicted murder uh this is a this is a

00:13:24.460 clever move on the part of the protesters yeah i mean spoiler alert obviously the police did not

00:13:28.380 take a knee because it would have been career suicide for any of them to take a knee and again

00:13:32.820 it is racially motivated murder he thought he could get away with it because he thought he 0.97

00:13:37.560 could kill a white guy and claim racism yeah yeah that's what it is if it wasn't for the

00:13:42.360 institutional setup of the police the fact that these people know or at least think for the most 0.96

00:13:48.100 part that they can get away with it he maybe would have thought twice about doing it in the first

00:13:52.480 place if we weren't living in the culture that we are today and this is what one thing other thing

00:13:55.780 i will say you there are all of these sort of pious um claims being made i think a seek um mp

00:14:01.980 within the house of commons tried to make it the other day attacking rupert lowe attacking faraj

00:14:05.940 attacking more or less everyone on the on the right of British politics for politicizing this

00:14:09.280 issue no it is already it was already political we found it that way we are not the ones politicizing

00:14:14.780 we found it political the Sikh MP that you're referring to you put out a tweet um this morning

00:14:18.680 saying look um they're coming for the Sikhs now they'll be coming for you next and I had to reply

00:14:22.580 to it said they've been coming for me for 20 years at least so you know sorry if I'm not wildly 0.97

00:14:29.220 sympathetic um yeah i mean i'll just show here the the sort of the site i mean the again the oh

00:14:36.060 here no so this is this is this is the murder location so um let me just let me just frame

00:14:41.680 this so to the to the left is where the police line was a moment ago um and henry had clearly

00:14:48.400 run down this street and tried to go in here tried to climb over that fence being stabbed as he

00:14:54.620 climbed over that fence his legs in his legs yep in his legs so he was half he was halfway over

00:15:00.060 that fence when he got which was filmed yeah while it was happening and he was being mocked

00:15:04.380 well that was withheld from the trial because it was too disturbing yep yep and there was also

00:15:09.780 footage filmed while he was laying dying that the uh that diguar had filmed presumably to

00:15:15.340 yes yes exactly right a huge crowd at this point i mean it's it's that that previous area we saw

00:15:22.720 completely full up and this this area is starting to fill up as well and and continuously you can

00:15:27.680 see the police more vans are arriving so i i reckon half of half of hampshire constabulary

00:15:34.480 put their phones on airplane mode last night so they wouldn't get called up to to come down to

00:15:39.200 this and clearly largely spontaneous as well people may remember that after southport there

00:15:42.720 was in there was a sort of state-led effort to present the process that erupted afterwards as

00:15:47.040 in fact artificial or it was sort of people who were already prejudiced going into these communities

00:15:52.400 in order to cause trouble and then a later report actually shot that down it's curious that it's

00:15:56.060 telling in a way that they haven't tried that to trot out that line again but clearly this is just

00:15:59.480 spontaneous outrage on the part of decent people living in that community who feel

00:16:03.660 um who who feel this sort of harrowing event very very acutely it is now you'll notice that

00:16:11.240 everything has been very calm so far apart from the police trying to push those people down the

00:16:15.200 stairs everything has been you know perfectly reasonable at this point um i'll direct your

00:16:20.160 attention to so this is this is an adjacent road going down it um yes there was the murder house

00:16:24.560 there but nobody nobody's touching it it's just a it's just a memorial outside some flowers and

00:16:28.620 stuff um this is a kind of overflow road um the police in their baffling series of unwise decisions

00:16:36.560 decided to dispatch a um a you know a a group of riot police to come down this road from the

00:16:43.620 opposite side there's no reason for them to do that there is a there is a another road a main

00:16:48.360 road that goes behind those houses that joined up with the main police point where they could

00:16:53.680 have avoided all of this but they decided they're going to come in and they're going to have a bit 0.82

00:16:56.460 of a slap they're going to you know they're going to knock some white lads around the house give

00:17:00.720 them a good shove a lot of pushing and shoving at which point the crowd you know gets a bit riled 0.60

00:17:07.520 up with this and they start throwing wheelie bins now if you're left is concerned about what you're

00:17:13.660 seeing here um don't worry those are actually ceremonial wheelie bins um and and the british

00:17:19.300 people are allowed to carry a wheelie bin of up to 120 liters on their person at all times

00:17:23.860 uh for ceremonial reasons so there we go and we then get this this sort of slightly comical

00:17:30.280 scene of the riot police who came in to have a bit of a slap um basically again not realizing

00:17:36.360 what they were walking into and getting literally run off uh and we've now got like a you know a 0.90

00:17:41.680 several minute scene of them realizing oh shit we've um yeah we're not we're not going to get

00:17:47.780 away with um pushing people around here and so they they hastily retreat back to the main police 0.96

00:17:52.940 line they're retreating here for obvious pragmatic reasons because they were clearly expecting some

00:17:57.460 kind of trouble they're they're kind of you know they're in full riot gear it's telling when you

00:18:01.840 compare that to what happened in hair hills about two years ago when the police fled and again for

00:18:06.320 pragmatic reasons because they were outnumbered and you know fair enough but they didn't even

00:18:09.040 bother showing up in riot gear on this is very noticeable and also of course the i'm not if i'm

00:18:15.340 not mistaken my memory may be failing the youth takeovers of just a few weeks ago in croydon or

00:18:20.220 whatever it was yes no right gear there no right gear for blm uh but but they turn up in riot gear

00:18:26.160 um and and they and they don't take the knee and they they go in with the pushing and shoving so

00:18:31.080 that so they basically start with a crowd which is pretty passive and they g them up with a with

00:18:36.500 a bit of the violence to get a reaction um and then they get shown off but because this and this

00:18:43.080 i mean i watched the whole thing hours of this uh and and constantly every time the crowd settles

00:18:48.160 down they do something really to rile them back up again um do you know one of the um rather

00:18:57.060 depressing signals that makes it um a bit more uh obvious that this is more organic a lack of

00:19:05.380 foreign flags held by all of the protesters yes yes there were some british flags so there we go

00:19:11.280 we're gonna be coming up on the murder house in a minute and then they're gonna they're gonna

00:19:14.800 rejoin the main police line but um you know having started something um yeah they're now

00:19:20.540 getting pelted with things and um the locals are coming out um to um give them a piece of their

00:19:26.800 mind as well i mean later on you see that you see the locals coming out in their dressing gowns

00:19:31.240 have a look at what's going on so yeah there's all of that um so like i say it is a ceremonial

00:19:37.160 wheelie bin so don't when the police are and the government start telling you this is some sort of

00:19:41.400 tactical weapon um just just just ignore that that is that is not actually the case um yeah

00:19:48.280 again to my point about you know everything every time things started to settle down a bit uh the

00:19:53.080 the police will go in um i think this is the bit where yeah see it's basically settled down so in

00:20:01.860 they go rile the crowd up a bit lots of this honestly what

00:20:09.140 maybe i'm missing something but what possible law and order purpose does that sort of 10

00:20:15.800 10 yard mark like aggressive 10 yard march forward serve well it triggers reaction what is there what

00:20:22.340 is their sort of you know disinterested defense of that little little charge they just did there

00:20:26.800 uh right you can't you can't push a narrative of the far-right lunatics unless um unless you and

00:20:33.660 and things and it did and it did get a reaction and people would then start throwing things

00:20:38.260 so it it got into exactly what they exactly the narrative they wanted because you start doing

00:20:44.000 stuff like this and then you start getting i mean at one point a plant pot from presumably a new

00:20:49.220 nearby house comes flying over but then of course you get the narrative well 11 11 police officers

00:20:54.220 were injured well yeah i remember the bbc reporting that 27 police officers were um injured during the

00:21:01.720 blm riots in the summer of 2020 but in the headline they made sure to say 27 police officers injured

00:21:07.360 in largely peaceful protests right i don't think that qualification is going to be added here

00:21:12.380 and the bizarre thing is it would have been it would have been um peaceful i think if there

00:21:17.880 wasn't a lot of the the agitation that came with it i don't want to sound like too much of a school

00:21:22.920 mom but we should say that uh you know lord hermer is you know rubbing his hands together right now

00:21:28.960 oh yes people you know i i it's rare that i quote lenin approvingly but he did once say that in any

00:21:34.420 field of human endeavor you should have your heart on fire but your brain on ice it's it's

00:21:39.700 very important for people to remain level-headed during this i do understand i don't want to sound

00:21:42.900 like too much of a school mom because you know clearly it is the conditions that the police and

00:21:47.160 our politicians are creating that are the problem rather these these are at best sort of second

00:21:51.380 third order symptoms but but it is it is in your own interest and in the interest of us of us as

00:21:56.140 a people to be as level-headed in these situations as possible or you're just giving ammunition to

00:22:00.080 people like lord hermer who is gleefully signing off your public order prosecutions as we speak

00:22:04.460 i'm sure yes and of course they got the facial recognition out but they don't even need the

00:22:08.520 facial recognition out because so many people were filming this live and and and people didn't cover

00:22:12.740 their face because as far as these people are concerned they got they got nothing to be ashamed

00:22:16.280 off they're defending their country so they they get the opportunity to um you know now go around

00:22:21.840 and arrest loads of people and fast track them through the courts and all that kind of stuff

00:22:25.280 um i mean the amount of money they spent on this i mean never would they ever spend

00:22:29.560 defending the dig was home you can see the amount of money and they've got the police helicopter

00:22:33.140 running above this as well they would never spend that amount of money on defending a victim of the

00:22:37.300 gangs was there any indication that these protesters intended on you know being vigilantes

00:22:42.720 outside of the the murderer's home anyway i mean well they they had they had walked down to

00:22:47.980 and the police had clearly decided in advance that they were going to clear out this road and

00:22:52.020 none of those lights in those houses come on so they'd probably cleared out the road and put

00:22:55.280 everybody in hotels or whatever it was i understand you've got six hours worth of footage here so

00:22:59.080 yeah yeah maybe maybe this what i'm about to say could be disproven but i've seen

00:23:02.420 no so far i've seen nothing of the protesters trying to breach the police lines so well i mean

00:23:07.440 So when it started, it was a lot of people taking the knee

00:23:12.800 and that kind of stuff.

00:23:13.980 Police would get a bit belligerent,

00:23:15.160 and then what started happening is people started throwing stuff.

00:23:18.380 Also, I've got to say, this all seems like a rather extravagant defence

00:23:21.980 to ensure that there isn't too much uproar

00:23:24.820 after a delivery driver murders someone.

00:23:28.580 Is it really worth it having the extra delivery drivers in the country

00:23:32.160 with all this extra expense and trouble that comes with it?

00:23:34.440 Yeah, as opposed to walking to the takeaway yourself or something.

00:23:37.440 driving we've got roads for it it's quite incredible anyway escalation keeps happening

00:23:41.920 um and and it i mean it has the desired effect it it riles up um the people in the crowd who

00:23:48.960 who were prepared to be a bit unwise and i'm not condoning it like i said i've got friends in the

00:23:52.820 police i'm not i'm not up for throwing things at the police but that is that is the reaction

00:23:57.960 that then started to happen um and as it started to get dark um you know you then did get you know

00:24:04.960 the the unfortunate element people uh you know that's a much bigger bin uh that that is not a

00:24:10.140 that is not a ceremonial bin it's too large that one that's that's technically legal and and and

00:24:15.040 then you know more plant pots and bottles and all the rest of it and the odd half house brick you

00:24:19.760 know started coming over as well the police advanced uh so we're higher up on this road

00:24:24.800 um and then they they sort of retreated to this as the crowd was simply too large

00:24:29.520 but they but they are not going to go any further back than that because just behind that is digger's

00:24:33.820 house and they're going to defend that at all costs everybody else's house around here you know

00:24:38.460 was getting their plant pots um and their and their fence panels broken but you know by god

00:24:44.080 they're not going to let a single thing happen to the digwer house well one of the problems with a

00:24:48.580 situation like this is especially when it starts to go dark and there've already been a few

00:24:53.260 altercations we saw people hanging around by the fences sticking their heads over and throwing

00:24:58.100 stuff at the cops if a bunch of just delinquents with nothing to do with the protests in the first

00:25:03.020 place see that there's a bit of a scuffle going on with the police and want to join in the fun

00:25:06.620 yeah they're just gonna they're just gonna jump in and get mixed in with the rest of the crowd

00:25:11.640 anyway and if they start to escalate things the the rest of the crowd and the rest of the

00:25:15.840 protests is going to get blamed for it and and you know i'm sure there'll be a few conspiracy

00:25:20.820 uh theorists in the comments saying what about undercover police uh doing a bit of that as well

00:25:25.020 i'm certain i'm certain there must have been some in the crowd they who knows what what would the

00:25:29.240 reason be to not certainly not beneath the british state at this point given no given the

00:25:32.740 evidence given what we have on record that the british state has done yes ceremonial we're being

00:25:37.840 going in um so yeah so so this holds they've been pushed right back to near where dig was house is

00:25:43.860 uh defending that at all costs um as you can see now loads of things have been thrown at this point

00:25:48.720 i mean it it has got very unfortunate here like i say protests need to happen because otherwise

00:25:55.780 the british state will just simply um continue with the destruction of english people forever

00:26:01.760 so you do need to raise

00:26:03.540 but it is unfortunate that it's come to this point

00:26:05.700 and it's unfortunate the series of actions

00:26:07.700 that the Hampshire police took

00:26:09.200 to agitate

00:26:11.620 things a number of times

00:26:12.840 and then eventually they got

00:26:15.740 their public order

00:26:17.320 charging

00:26:18.880 they read the riot act

00:26:21.080 and that's when they've got full powers to do

00:26:23.840 stuff so it sort of

00:26:25.640 eventually accumulates here

00:26:27.000 I think this is them

00:26:28.480 shouting out if this is

00:26:31.700 i think i've got the right bit is this six no sorry one more could not possibly be more

00:26:39.300 predictable though i mean people instinctively do not like being replaced and still less do they

00:26:43.940 like um being treated effectively which which they are treated by our institutions as um

00:26:50.140 second-class citizens relative to those replacements like one is bad enough both

00:26:55.640 together well and people have tried voting against this for 50 years and being rug pulled every

00:27:00.600 single time that's right so you know you can say to people oh why why are you kicking up any fuss

00:27:05.880 about this stuff it's like well we tried to tell you for the ballot box for 50 years uh and you

00:27:10.480 did nothing yeah so this this is the point where uh whatever it is the public order act or the or

00:27:16.060 the riot act has been read out and they've now got full powers to basically beat anyone that they can

00:27:23.060 get their hands on and throw them in the back of the van so this is when they become much more

00:27:26.700 aggressive this is what the police like to do they wait until it's thinned out and a lot of

00:27:30.460 the crowd had gone at this point they're going to charge now what they normally do is they will box

00:27:35.460 you in from four sides then they're read the public order act right and then their advance

00:27:42.520 so basically they will say if you don't clear out of this area now you're going to be arrested

00:27:46.580 but make sure they've already kettled you so that then when they advance they can then just

00:27:51.860 beat and arrest every single person they get their hands on that because they didn't understand what

00:27:57.720 they were up against with this protest they weren't able to kettle these people the crowd

00:28:01.120 was simply too large and so they just managed to advance but they couldn't kettle people and i

00:28:06.740 and they probably didn't arrest many people but no doubt they're going to be going through

00:28:11.360 many many intelligence officers at the police now going to be spending their time

00:28:17.760 analyzing this frame by frame and the various other videos and they will be arresting as many

00:28:23.920 people as they can because the british state's response to hampshire police um cocking up an

00:28:30.280 arrest will be to arrest as many people with hampshire police as they possibly can

00:28:34.020 so yes that's where that ends there

00:28:37.760 harry over to you sir well we've got plenty of rumble rants if you'd like to go to them first

00:28:45.040 yes why not why not yeah yeah we've got we've got quite a lot and people have been very generous

00:28:48.420 thank you very much thank you thank you people um do i start from the bottom or the top yeah just

00:28:53.400 go from the bottom right okay um 121 says dan uh not related to any segment today but do you think

00:28:59.560 you could do some content on adderall industries with feras perhaps me carl endural industries not

00:29:05.020 adderall industries do you think you can try some adderall on stream i don't know what that is all

00:29:09.340 of a sudden it sounds like dan isn't the man to lead that segment i'll look into what adderall's

00:29:15.280 adhd medication is basically methamphetamine so you might be in right okay i don't know what it

00:29:20.580 is either to be okay i will try and look into that i have a friend who takes it uh i know i know

00:29:25.380 what adderall is i don't know oh no and you're yeah who knows no we look into that uh single 0.71

00:29:29.680 says just wanted uh just waiting for uh queer starlin to throw gasoline on the fire with some 0.67

00:29:35.360 announcement of 24 hour courts he probably will you do i don't think he will maybe he's learned 0.73

00:29:41.880 yeah that's what you're saying yeah um here we are um still shattered hand says british police 0.94

00:29:47.880 are your enemy they want you dead they are racist evil tyrants they need to be treated as such 0.94

00:29:52.920 well things bear in mind i know a lot of these guys and and actually they agree with us on 0.99

00:29:56.960 everything um but they want to pay their mortgage that's basically what it is yeah people are

00:30:01.460 people are naturally risk averse people are naturally compliant a lot of a lot of these

00:30:04.740 people in the rank and file are at best pawns for this um for this anti anti-white regime under

00:30:11.080 which we live uh the main target is in the upper echelon of these police forces well a lot of the

00:30:16.880 you were police officers i could characterize that way but my yes one of my friends who was

00:30:22.300 a police officer until recently who left the force has told me plenty of horror stories about

00:30:27.140 the newbies that they'd been bringing in who'd been fast tracked to positions that they shouldn't

00:30:31.560 have been put in for purely political reasons oh 100 the kinds of attitudes that they would have

00:30:37.220 already baked i've got i've got an anecdote i've got an anecdote for that for the third segment

00:30:41.280 which i'll wheel out with you uh wolfman yar says this might be an appropriate time to re-ink

00:30:46.000 the magna carta that's a random name says uh this is why i say i don't care when they call restore

00:30:51.560 racist isn't good enough next time they ask do uh do ask them why they're defending criminals

00:30:57.420 in a corrupt system that feeds british kids to monsters uh drunken changeling says they're

00:31:03.320 throwing bins at us i don't think they are mate um and clavel knight says uh per carl's long-term

00:31:09.700 point now uh this is what it looks like when the police think they have the right to police community

00:31:14.440 thank you all yes thank you all very much uh let me scroll down to mine uh do you want to

00:31:20.300 get my segment up please samson

00:31:21.660 thank you thank you very much and i'll scroll down to mine here we go

00:31:28.800 all right so uh off the back of the henry novak case and everything that's developing on it right

00:31:35.360 now i want to ask a question which is well two questions really is one why is this happening

00:31:42.160 now specifically with this case and two will it spell the end of our current incarnation

00:31:49.620 of anti-racism and given some of the rhetoric that we've been hearing from the politicians

00:31:55.620 and some of the institutional leaders recently will they start to pull it back to a more old

00:32:01.780 fashioned martin luther king uh equal in everybody's like there's color meritocratic

00:32:09.320 meritocratic colorblind policing because the anti-racist approach has proved to be frankly

00:32:17.300 just untenable and policing and managing multicultural britain as it exists right now

00:32:23.820 with these huge disparities in outcomes and huge disparities in the way that people are treated by

00:32:30.540 the institutions and the police and these increasing ethnic divisions as we saw most

00:32:35.560 explosively in southport it's just becoming a little bit too difficult to keep a lid on

00:32:40.460 all of the time they want to avoid more southports happening but the way the system is set up right

00:32:45.860 now is designed to create more southports and is this story being used in a way to kind of justify

00:32:54.920 pulling back on a lot of the excesses and i'm wondering as well what the reasons for that would

00:33:01.220 be because i see a lot of the a lot of the kind of diversity equity the intersectionality what

00:33:09.320 was called woke for a long time i see all of that as basically an outgrowth of managerial

00:33:14.420 multiculturalism where you in the same way that you have the community service relations in america

00:33:20.600 that department of the american government that sends people out in the same way that we have riku

00:33:25.180 for uh to coach people when there's been a racial incident to try not to inflame community tensions

00:33:30.540 that's all just sadly uh what a state would logically do if you've basically thrown a bunch

00:33:37.620 of communities who all hate one another and constantly get into fights into a big pot together

00:33:42.540 and said get along then things are always things are obviously going to explode so you need these

00:33:48.940 kind of departments and these institutions to stop things from exploding as bad as they could

00:33:53.380 but after a certain point it's too difficult it's too costly it's too destabilizing so let's look at

00:33:59.300 the situation because again what a lot of people forget is how quick the news cycle goes with a

00:34:04.920 lot of these stories there was the huge outrage last year with something like axe girl the scottish

00:34:09.920 girl who had been accosted by migrants and pulled out the knife and the axe and everybody said that

00:34:14.480 she was going to be the rallying call that everybody would rally around she was for a little

00:34:18.580 bit but then got cycled out of the news story there was wayne broadhurst last year who was

00:34:23.740 murdered by an afghan migrant who came in in 2020 a lot of people can see that as a direct failure

00:34:30.200 of the asylum system direct failure of the tory government again a lot of people rallied around 0.97

00:34:35.440 him and his name for a little while but then it got cycled out and he's just kind of somebody that 1.00

00:34:40.040 people bring up every so often to remind you by the way multiculturalism causes bad things and it

00:34:45.700 will hate you and will try to kill you so why is it specifically that this story has exploded

00:34:52.480 right now because I tell you what when it first came out and it first happened it did not have

00:34:57.820 the same kind of staying power because I looked into this and traced the dates from some of the

00:35:02.520 original reporting from when this happened because I've spoken to a lot of people a lot of people

00:35:06.680 don't even know that this case actually happened last December a lot of people that I know assumed

00:35:12.140 that this must have happened in May because everybody started talking about it in May and

00:35:17.140 you can trace the timeline so here's one of the original articles about the case which took place

00:35:21.640 on the 3rd of December 2025 that is tragically when Henry Novak was murdered one of the first

00:35:28.600 reports on it was the 10th of December 2025 you can see this article has not been updated since

00:35:33.320 then but even at that time a week after the initial incident and after the murder we already

00:35:38.820 had the information of Vikram Digwa being the one who did it charged with murder possession of a

00:35:43.900 bladed article the fact that his mother was also being charged we had some of the details so this

00:35:49.560 was already a provocative and emotive case right and then afterwards is radio silence the most that

00:35:58.660 you get is like in april people talking about student to be remembered with celebrity football

00:36:03.820 match and mandanized murder of southampton student henry novak again on the 13th of april so there

00:36:11.320 was very little said about it in the mainstream news there were the initial reports and then

00:36:15.160 nothing else said about it until all of a sudden this article comes out on the 14th of May this

00:36:23.720 year which gives all of these details it talks about the trial that's going on and gives everybody

00:36:28.580 a big update and some would say that the reason this blew up was primarily thanks to X you had

00:36:35.080 people like Keith Woods big fan of a lot of the stuff that he does Europa's a really interesting

00:36:40.460 and a useful resource but he's saying that basically um it would have been badly reported

00:36:46.100 in the media if it wasn't for platforms like x and there are some reports there are some cases

00:36:52.020 of people like chris donald gavin hopeley both killed for being white which were barely discussed

00:36:56.820 outside of groups can to be considered to be on the extreme right and this is something i see with

00:37:02.360 a lot of people where they say that basically like these stories only blow up because of x or

00:37:06.980 these stories are carried along by x and carried along in the mainstream conscious and people

00:37:13.440 wouldn't talk about them or the mainstream wouldn't have continued to report on it if it

00:37:17.920 wasn't for x but i looked into that and i know that the x search function is a little bit hit

00:37:23.740 and miss but i did try and look for it so i tried between the 3rd of december 2025 to the 30th of

00:37:31.800 april 2026 to see what had been reported on it on twitter right and the most that you get is a few

00:37:39.200 people with very very very little attention very little engagement with it uh reporting on it

00:37:46.840 saying this is something that happened so to be fair my first video on this was about three weeks

00:37:51.220 ago yeah exactly that was when i made one of the first videos i think that was made on youtube

00:37:56.160 about it maybe somebody else did and i started tweeting about it a lot but that was three weeks

00:38:00.260 when i became aware of it given the view count as well these look like very small accounts

00:38:04.500 yeah until and then i searched between the 1st of may 2026 to the 15th of may 2026 15th being

00:38:12.100 the day after that initial bbc report that came out on the 14th and then all of a sudden you start

00:38:17.460 to get all of these uh slightly bigger accounts start to report on it with these uh much more

00:38:24.900 highly engaging posts where people start to get attention uh four and a half thousand likes almost

00:38:30.660 a million views each time so it was only really with that mainstream media report that people

00:38:36.180 started to pay attention to it again and we can we can coordinate this as well by seeing how the

00:38:42.260 reaction has been since that initial report came back out uh which is as you showed the newspaper

00:38:48.580 reports earlier today this has been something you know i was listening to mainstream radio on my

00:38:53.620 I drive into work this morning.

00:38:55.360 Why weren't you listening to Breakfast with Beau?

00:38:57.160 Because I got here before Breakfast with Beau started.

00:38:59.860 Okay, that's a good excuse.

00:39:00.660 I gave Beau a wave before he started.

00:39:02.760 You can ask him yourself.

00:39:04.240 I get in very, very early.

00:39:07.340 But you can see, like, all of the newspaper reports,

00:39:11.080 all the newspapers,

00:39:12.500 police face call to drop race bias policies,

00:39:16.340 arrest that outrage, the nation,

00:39:18.640 family's plea for calm ignored.

00:39:20.140 And on the mainstream radio I was listening to as well,

00:39:23.620 All of these mainstream talking heads were talking about the case,

00:39:27.400 and they were also, every single one of them,

00:39:30.140 was bringing up the anti-racial bias of the anti-racist guidelines

00:39:35.980 that the police have to go through,

00:39:37.720 which is something that we've been talking about for ages.

00:39:41.220 It's something that should have been brought up

00:39:42.960 with the approach that the police took to the grooming gangs.

00:39:46.120 Why has the mainstream media never taken such a coordinated attack

00:39:51.500 on police anti-racist anti-racist standards when it comes to things like the grooming gangs where

00:39:56.800 the grooming gangs some of those girls were returned to the people abusing them by the police

00:40:03.040 is it x because you know all the journalists are an x well x tried to push back on things like

00:40:10.060 wayne broadhurst on the axe girl on the grooming gangs yeah but the mainstream media all of these

00:40:15.040 newspapers everything didn't all coordinate at once around it what would be interesting to know

00:40:18.940 and i don't know whether you've done this as part of your sort of timeline harry is when musk first

00:40:22.880 tweeted about this because i think that like musk's amplification combined with the fact as i

00:40:27.660 said earlier that this is everything that they told us george floyd was oh yeah but with the

00:40:34.380 races swapped actually true times 10 as far as i'm concerned i'm not saying that people's anger

00:40:40.900 about the situation is inorganic what i'm saying is that you are you are right what i'm saying is

00:40:46.000 it like amplification across the pond it will be likely given the the case's resonance to the

00:40:53.560 george floyd case i'm wondering how much that has to do with it and also the fact the murder

00:40:57.700 conviction was this this particular thing here didn't come up with anything with musk but again

00:41:03.800 musk might have commented under one of these saying yes or it was about it was about a week

00:41:09.020 ago that musk got on this personally right was it about a week ago so again it seems to have been in

00:41:14.960 the mainstream conscious for longer than musk has been directly commenting on it if you are correct

00:41:20.600 there but again the question is like well how does this compare to a similar situation where it was

00:41:26.420 just an unambiguous case of racial violence that people were furious about with southport

00:41:32.000 how was that reported on at the time how was that dealt with because i remember southport happening

00:41:37.080 and i remember there wasn't some big six-month gap it was huge immediately people were out on

00:41:43.740 the street the same night that it happened people were out on the street for a full week after it

00:41:49.280 happened and it came across as incredibly organic the mainstream media immediately wanted to shut

00:41:56.920 it down and you ended up with if you go back to the time uh that it was happening what were the

00:42:04.300 reports what were the headline reports it wasn't all of this kind of like we need to look at racial

00:42:10.040 bias policies this was the most horrible thing that ever happened we need to appeal for calm

00:42:16.500 uh we didn't you say that they're doing the tactical retreat we didn't get any white lives 0.97

00:42:20.940 matter comments at that time did we yeah what what did we have we had kia starmer saying it doesn't 0.53

00:42:26.260 matter we had kia starmer coming out and making a public announcement that you're all far right

00:42:31.380 far right bandwagon yeah everyone's jumping on a far right yeah everyone's jumping on the far

00:42:36.340 right bandwagon everybody's jumping uh everybody's following these far right thugs you've got to

00:42:40.920 understand if you're going out and you're taking part in these protests and riot it doesn't matter

00:42:45.360 why it was that happened and it all culminated in this remember remember the way there was a

00:42:50.660 coordinated effort to try and encourage people to go out to fake protests in the middle of the week

00:42:57.280 that everybody went that's fake that's not real nobody showed up except the anti-racist

00:43:03.500 counter-protests for a photo op at walthamstow that then every single on this day it was the

00:43:11.720 8th of august in 2024 every single newspaper had this headline i remember that day because

00:43:21.000 somebody in the office pointed out oh look there's a there's a protest like five minutes from my

00:43:25.740 office and we're all looking it's like what what is this fake nonsense yeah this is clearly the

00:43:33.400 face we're all sort of to varying degrees well relatively well connected in these circles like

00:43:38.140 they when we when we were looking at those actual spontaneous protests earlier you two were talking

00:43:41.640 about oh that's john in the audience oh there's young bob oh yeah oh there's nickton code there's

00:43:45.800 at the time into the in 2024 july 2024 we would have known about it if these protests were going

00:43:50.760 to be going down yeah and it was on a load of dodgy telegram apps uh like chats that all of a

00:43:55.620 sudden they were getting screenshots of this saying come to this rally in this protest at this time 0.61

00:44:00.600 don't wear masks or anything guys this is totally legit and everybody went that's gay op that is a

00:44:06.060 gay op right there and then this happened because the media took advantage to try and coordinate

00:44:11.620 this so that either it could be a huge optics fail for anybody who did show up or they could

00:44:18.160 do spin it the way that they did which was that anti-racism united the nation and pushed all of

00:44:23.600 these far-right provocateurs out of the conversation therefore have more immigration yes i think

00:44:30.400 this is a bit of an about face

00:44:32.700 they're trying to do a little bit of a heel turn

00:44:34.620 on this whole thing

00:44:36.260 because they know that that didn't actually

00:44:38.460 solve the problem. Another

00:44:40.320 Southport is, in multicultural

00:44:42.380 Britain, Southport

00:44:44.380 is just around the corner at

00:44:46.300 all times

00:44:47.700 and so this situation comes up and

00:44:50.380 we don't see this coordination

00:44:52.240 going on. What we do

00:44:54.520 see is within a few days

00:44:56.420 of the initial report coming out you have

00:44:58.120 people like a Lord's

00:45:00.380 responding to it you have articles in places like unheard talking about anti-racism poisoning

00:45:06.340 british policing you have uh the bbc has actually been constantly on this like half of the articles

00:45:14.860 on the bbc front page right now are about this and there's been at least one article every single

00:45:20.280 day the bbc has not been letting this go in the guardian even you have these discussions yes the

00:45:26.440 headline says there's a dangerous undercurrent but you have shabana mahoud repeating that phrase

00:45:32.620 which again i heard on the radio a lot this morning to police without fear or favor which

00:45:37.740 was a very old phrase in this country in the policing going back to at least the 17th century

00:45:44.180 that i have i mean it made catholics then but yeah that i have not heard my entire life frankly

00:45:50.420 because to police without fear or favor has not been the mission statement of the british police

00:45:57.300 for my entire life it was in the 90s but well i was i only lived for a little bit in the 90s yes

00:46:03.700 all right and then you have uh henry novak's father saying we want to use uh because obviously

00:46:09.820 he must have had riku prep uh saying we want to use henry's heartbreaking story to make change

00:46:14.860 for the better we don't want his death to create to create further division hatred or tension

00:46:19.200 we want his story but what you don't get is condemnation of people who are angry about it

00:46:25.380 in that this is about we need unity uh we need change for the better if only if only the romans

00:46:32.620 had had a nudge unit then they could have got bodicea up on stage to say yes okay i know that

00:46:38.080 my daughters are being you know raped and i was flogged but i don't want this to be in any way

00:46:42.820 inflammatory against the romans and we need to support their policies to bring in more romans

00:46:48.040 i don't i don't want any trouble to come with this who knows how history could have turned out

00:46:52.500 and then at the end you get the police and crime commissioner for hampshire is now leading calls

00:46:56.440 for review of religious exemptions on the carryings of knives after the murder so this religious

00:47:01.540 carve-out that's been given to seeks all of a sudden it's looking pretty likely that's going

00:47:06.160 to be taken away from them because it's a clear case of two-tiered unfairness baked into the system

00:47:12.740 that's incredibly visible and has clearly caused harm in this situation right starmer instead of

00:47:20.180 saying this is disgusting that people are angry about this has come out and said that as a father

00:47:24.900 i've watched the full video and it made me feel sick to see what happened to that boy

00:47:29.880 so he's been a lot more tactical about it he's been a lot more level-headed about it and not

00:47:36.700 he's not tried to stoke people well he didn't come out and say it doesn't matter which is what

00:47:41.900 he said in response to those girls being murdered he came out and said it doesn't matter yeah and

00:47:45.660 asked if he agreed with kemi badenock that there should be a mcpherson style inquiry into whether

00:47:51.000 the anti-racist culture in the police should go um goes too far starmer said that he was not ruling

00:47:57.120 it out so starmer himself is not ruling out basically repealing a lot of the mcpherson stuff

00:48:02.560 because that when they say mcpherson style inquiry mcpherson was the turning point for the police to

00:48:08.520 turn them into this in the first place i'll make a quick point here if i may yeah i think that um

00:48:12.300 one of the sort of un one of the kind of one of the neglected uh features of the whole history

00:48:20.080 of post-war britain in a way has been the like congenital failure of the center right

00:48:26.020 to put up a good fight on these sorts of questions and given that and i would i would argue

00:48:31.720 in large part thanks to the efforts of restore britain in dragging much of the center right

00:48:37.560 kicking and screaming uh to a more sort of patriotic level-headed less psychotic place

00:48:43.040 um the fact that you now you now do if you when you if you read the telegraph today

00:48:48.060 compared to what the telegraph would have been like 10 years ago that the overton window has

00:48:53.120 been moving rightwards at a rapid pace part partly due to hasten by events but also i think partly

00:48:57.860 hastened by uh the pressure that we've been putting on the kind of center-right conservative

00:49:02.040 conservative small c conservative establishment sooner or later given that politic it takes two

00:49:06.800 sides of the political aisle to tango that is bound to that is bound to be reflected in terms

00:49:11.800 of the rhetoric of people like Shabana Mahmood and Keir Starmer as well so a lot of it may have

00:49:17.480 to do with how quickly the open window has been shifting over the last two years and the fact

00:49:21.840 that some on the right appear to be recovering courage that was completely absent two years ago

00:49:27.640 yeah I think a lot of it is to do with there is going to be internal and external pressure

00:49:33.400 on our government and our state apparatus right now which is making it more and more costly for

00:49:41.780 them to carry on with these policies and two just the the effects of the policies themselves yes

00:49:47.140 are just not worth it yep it's just not worth it for the sake of having because digua was a

00:49:54.880 deliveroo driver that's what he was doing the night that this happened he'd finished his deliveroo

00:49:59.780 and was going out to get some curried chips or something um for the sake of having a couple of

00:50:05.460 extra delivery drivers who probably aren't even actually paying any tax because they're probably

00:50:10.300 signed up to somebody else's account in the first place uh it's not worth it for all of this to

00:50:16.180 constantly be happening so this is kind of being maneuvered and allowed allowed to be maneuvered

00:50:22.360 in a way where they can say as we're seeing right now um it further down in here uh basically the

00:50:29.540 police anti-racism commitment which is being reviewed by police chiefs a national unit of

00:50:35.240 senior police chiefs says it will review anti-racism guidance that's been at the center

00:50:39.760 of criticism over the actions of the officers the national police chiefs council has announced

00:50:44.140 it will look into policing's anti-racism commitment document with npcc chairman gavin stevens saying

00:50:50.480 it is listening to legitimate concerns about how some of these commitments are worded or phrased

00:50:55.520 and i heard a lot of that on the radio this morning as well people saying that um it would

00:50:59.760 actually the people calling in um were saying like oh you know um people of color they've always been

00:51:07.360 oppressed by the police mcpherson stephen lawrence stephen lawrence stephen lawrence it was actually

00:51:12.120 the talking heads saying but yeah but how can you justify the way the police acted here how can you

00:51:17.700 justify the wording of these particular statements so it was the regime talking heads were the ones 0.99

00:51:22.800 actually pushing back against shit interesting against shit libs calling in and saying well 0.96

00:51:28.820 this is just what we've got to live with in multicultural britain so a trigger has been 0.99

00:51:32.800 pulled here where these people are now allowed to point out the obvious that hey these resulted in 0.99

00:51:38.700 the ridiculous conduct of police officers who immediately listened to a bunch of sikhs who

00:51:44.820 said oh we've been racially abused and handcuffed a dying man who'd been stabbed you think they 0.91

00:51:51.060 realize now that their position is untenable so it's a tactical retreat completely completely

00:51:54.780 as well as that at the same time you have in europe which starmer is almost explicitly trying

00:52:00.700 to get better connections and ties to in europe yes you have the big things with signing them up

00:52:06.420 for mass migration with india through these trade deals and such but at the same time you have a more

00:52:11.800 hard line of anti-immigration coming into the european parliament as well who have put through

00:52:16.460 are a lot of changes to make it easier to deport people so you do have they want to realign with

00:52:21.820 europe but at the same time europe is becoming slightly more hard line on certain types of

00:52:26.560 migration and illegal migration as well so it might be a lot of different converging factors

00:52:32.480 going on here and then again uh you mentioned the telegraph telegraph's been going pretty hard on

00:52:38.320 this did anti-racism condemn henry novak to die yes henry novak and the spectator and the evil of

00:52:45.100 anti-racism that was in may and then we have another article this morning did henry novak

00:52:51.440 and the problem with anti-racism it's quite impressive that they released the same article

00:52:54.740 twice but they want to hammer the point home i suppose zia yusuf goes on to channel four

00:53:01.840 and just says anti-white racism is structurally embedded in police so we have nigel farage and

00:53:08.380 zia yusuf both mainstreaming white lives matter and anti-white racism in a way that they have

00:53:14.160 never had it so publicly before i think they found their spines all of a sudden i think this is i

00:53:18.800 think this is partly my point uh the fact that i mean goodness knows it's taken a long time

00:53:24.000 but arguably ever since enoch powell's rivers of blood speech in april 1968 there just has been

00:53:30.240 a kind of congenital cowardice on the sort of establishment center right of british politics

00:53:34.960 and so rather than um rather than uh taking the fight to the left taking the fight to the enemy

00:53:41.120 as it were like the right's whole sort of modus operandi since since the 60s has been to make its

00:53:47.680 peace with the kind of left-wing cultural revolution and try to play politics very

00:53:52.400 obediently within that progressive framework and not five years ago you can find people like kemi

00:53:57.040 badenok trumpeting the virtues of diversity trumpeting the virtues of multiculturalism and

00:54:01.120 all the rest of it this has just been fought form on the sort of establishment right but because as

00:54:05.600 As I say, events combined with the explosion of genuine independent voices on social media.

00:54:12.760 Obviously, Rupert Lowe is a huge figure in this.

00:54:14.980 And then from July 2025 onwards, Restore Britain, a big sort of institutional vehicle for this kind of discontent.

00:54:23.980 It just is, this can no longer be ignored.

00:54:26.020 And all of a sudden you have people, you know, writing for these magazines like The Spectator, like The Telegraph,

00:54:31.940 who are willing to go to places that they wouldn't have been 10 years ago.

00:54:34.660 and once you know once the party in the form of reform that is highest in the polls is talking

00:54:39.700 in this way it is impossible for for mainstream center left or indeed centrist outlets like the

00:54:44.920 times to ignore it yes so it just kind of creates a cascade throughout the whole media ecosystem so

00:54:49.560 so if you want to contain all of that ultimately if if you want to contain it you can't keep just

00:54:55.680 doing the same thing that you've been doing the whole time because that has not worked

00:54:59.000 so to contain it you kind of have to in a certain way give them what they want okay we'll ban these

00:55:06.400 these little knives and give you a concession there okay we'll pull back on all of the anti-racism

00:55:11.640 policing and give you a concession there and make it actually so it's a bit more even

00:55:15.860 and equal potentially that's pretty big though yeah that is that is pretty big because i mean

00:55:20.260 i'm not saying containment i'm not saying containment is always bad in the short term

00:55:25.020 because um aa has said before good containment is basically they give you what you want yes and

00:55:31.740 and and look i mean i'm not sort of uh ascribing any sort of good faith motives to people like

00:55:36.380 shabana mcmood and keir starmer but it is that the fact that they are willing to like you could

00:55:40.700 argue that the the whole sort of mcpherson report ranks alongside windrush as one of the major sort

00:55:47.660 of post-war symbolic myths that sort of absolutely it's supposed to define britain and the fact that

00:55:52.620 The fact that they are willing to revise the recommendations and conclusions

00:55:56.680 and the kind of slew of PowerPoints and training days,

00:56:00.600 that grew out of that, which it sounds like they are willing to do.

00:56:03.740 That's a pretty monumental concession.

00:56:05.100 And what a lot of people don't talk about the McPherson Report as,

00:56:09.420 and I think Peter Hitchens is one of the few to actually do this,

00:56:13.040 is talk about it as part of the larger package of New Labour's revolution.

00:56:17.860 Because a lot of people don't realise the McPherson Report

00:56:20.860 was what five or six years after the actual death of Stephen Lawrence it was um 99 and the death was

00:56:27.060 in 93 yeah so people had been it was in 93 yeah people had been sat on that for a long time that

00:56:32.840 was a situation where that was just in the background for a long time and Blair's government

00:56:37.420 decided to pick that up oh we want to reform the way that policing is done we've introduced a load 0.99

00:56:42.640 of immigrants into the country so we need to make our police um more anti-racist so that they don't 1.00

00:56:48.240 constantly get angry about the fact that we arrest them more because they stab each other it's 0.98

00:56:51.420 basically a subtle redefinition of law enforcement impartial law enforcement without fear or favor

00:56:57.260 as sort of race conscious social work that's basically that is basically what i'll go further

00:57:02.280 i'll go further than that what they did is they turned the police into the paramilitary wing of

00:57:06.000 the guardian newspaper or less yeah essentially like it but at the same time as you get this on

00:57:11.180 the 13th of april obviously you and rupert you guys have all had the independent grooming gang

00:57:17.560 inquiry uh which was a great success but the government's conducting its own grooming gang

00:57:22.540 inquiry at the moment off of the back of the casey report from last year is at the same time

00:57:28.260 in april we had this big bbc news report talking about all of the different ways in which the

00:57:34.140 asylum system is completely broken and needs reform and then just last month we had the

00:57:40.980 reports of net migration dropping to its lowest figures since 2012 which also all coincides I've

00:57:50.380 just realized off the top of my head there with Tony Blair releasing a very strongly worded letter

00:57:56.140 to the Keir Starmer government about how they're screwing everything up and need to reform

00:58:01.300 everything to make sure that the country doesn't just tank and go into perpetual decline. I did

00:58:06.960 read that essay though and there's actually very little mention of the issue of migration in that

00:58:10.580 he mainly focuses on tech and the balance of and the shifting balance of power geopolitically but

00:58:14.860 there are one or two references to it but he like you know tony blair is very much a boil the frog

00:58:20.660 a little more slowly creature type of creature he certainly is so what it seems like to me

00:58:25.400 is that this story is being used not that it's not that it's an inorganic story not that people

00:58:33.040 aren't right to be angry about it it's a horrible story it's incredibly emotive and a genuine

00:58:38.680 injustice was done but it is being amplified right now as part of a larger package from what i see

00:58:45.340 of the uk government kind of reorientating itself so that it can cut off all of the fat

00:58:52.600 and stop destroying the country quite as quickly as it has been doing because like you say the frog

00:58:59.780 just needs a little bit more time to boil or else we're going to get 10 20 30 more south ports in

00:59:05.520 increasingly quick succession and we don't want that gradual euthanasia instead of abrupt murder

00:59:10.400 basically yes so that's my theory on this let me know what you think in the comments

00:59:15.840 uh there's some rumble rants there uh quite a few actually i'm an egg you guys are being

00:59:21.900 all very generous today thank you all very much uh 141 paladin hey dan i learned that part of

00:59:27.680 why american manufacturing disappeared was because the pre-reagan tax code made investment

00:59:31.580 in industries in america non-taxable i ask you to look into this if you can okay um

00:59:39.180 yeah i think i think i see where you're going with that one tall order a narco tyranny is 0.86

00:59:45.120 probably the most pervasive and pernicious weapon used by the state against us in the western world 0.75

00:59:49.540 um that is part of what the system has been uh tom rat harry tell rupert not to bother suing

00:59:55.600 anti for not including them on question time host your own watch party with rebecca asking the

01:00:00.980 questions and take it out on the streets yeah i think as a team we've been we've been looking

01:00:06.620 into it on balance it probably wouldn't be successful given that obviously like in the

01:00:13.140 bbc's impartiality rules and they're they're they're you know the part of their charter that

01:00:17.460 talks about being balanced in terms of how that's been interpreted when it comes to platforming and

01:00:20.760 programming it should arguably be in terms of where people are polling and for a store are

01:00:25.300 polling third as i thought as on some polls the times poll for instance we are a maker field and

01:00:29.400 they should be we should be um we should be on the question time show but they they base it on

01:00:34.380 on the they base it on past electoral performance and since there's very little to go off there

01:00:38.880 other than our stunning success in great yarmouth uh last month they probably will be able to wriggle

01:00:43.400 out of it on a technicality but it's certainly something we're looking into all right sigil

01:00:47.420 stone unrelated but donald trump jr recently got married to the door no that that's not true is it

01:00:53.620 to the daughter of jeffrey epstein's personal banker is that true google that for me please dan

01:01:00.440 one tall order cartoon villain voice and we would have gotten away with burying it or shaping the

01:01:05.580 narrative if it weren't for you meddling right wingers perhaps busted brian the legit patriots

01:01:12.660 of britain have the issue of not being unemployed mentalists aided by wealthy bankers sorry wealthy

01:01:18.000 backers and quangos they're working folks who must return home or to their job at the end of the day

01:01:23.520 which i would actually say is a weakness of the right for a long time that sadly all of our rich

01:01:28.340 backers have been afraid to actually back and fund professional activists because it's very useful

01:01:36.200 to do that paladin again to clarify my question for dan i meant manufacturing declined partially

01:01:40.920 because of reagan's tax code which removed tax exemptions for domestic investment yeah i've been

01:01:46.140 pondering that since your your previous chat i mean there was a treatment to um taxation of

01:01:52.280 capital assets in 1986 i think but the peak in manufacturing was 1979 in america so manufacturing

01:01:59.060 was already in the decline i mean i see what you're getting at and i'll bear it in mind for

01:02:03.120 future brokonomics on tall order sounds like starmer got an extremely strongly worded phone

01:02:07.800 call from the dart lord telling him to drop the socialist excuse me socialism and utilize

01:02:12.180 managerialism i'm i wouldn't basically your thesis yeah i wouldn't put it past uh cmc revi

01:02:18.200 don't understand it is why the officers didn't call in an ambulance once they found out that

01:02:23.020 novak was stabbed even in america the police provide medical aid for criminals that were just 0.98

01:02:27.460 shot um because these people were ideologically brainwashed morons frankly steel shatterhand i 0.97

01:02:35.340 understand some british police are just doing what they do because they have bills to pay 1.00

01:02:38.800 just like nazis that gas innocent people quite

01:02:41.300 so we've also got to ask why are the police the enemy of the native people of of um you know

01:02:50.720 british lads like 18 year old henry noag um let's just bear in mind the the difference um

01:02:57.860 of response that keir starmer had to some jewish ambulances being um set on fire now bear in mind

01:03:05.040 these are these are i think was it two or three vehicles no one was actually killed no one was

01:03:09.620 harm but some some vehicles were damaged and that was top of the headlines for at least a week

01:03:15.920 um Keir Starmer's response was you know this is deeply shocking anti-semitic arson attack my

01:03:22.580 thoughts with the Jewish community who are waking up this morning in this horrific news 0.95

01:03:26.420 this is no place in our society anyone with any information come forward

01:03:30.340 that that was the day after the attack not not months after not after everybody else had been

01:03:37.840 talking about it for a week that was immediate and he didn't need to be forced by um the house

01:03:43.360 of commons speaker lindsey hoyle to make a statement no he did this off his back and he

01:03:48.140 he did it uh multiple times as well so and rightly so yes and uh you know it's his language here is

01:03:57.280 is unflinching you know he's calling it horrifying you can tell he's speaking from his soul on all

01:04:01.540 of this um you know utterly appalling again he tweets out on this a number of times he doesn't

01:04:07.460 hesitate he doesn't hold back he doesn't wait to be forced to do any of this well i mean you say

01:04:12.220 that i mean maybe his maybe his wife gave him a little nudge i don't i don't know what it was i

01:04:16.780 just know that he feels passionately about this and no and the house of commons speaker did not

01:04:21.300 need to force him to speak on it um the the whole pretense of the blairite regime if we're going to

01:04:27.560 call it that is that we are to the extent that we have group identities and cultural identities yes

01:04:33.620 we are multicultural we do acknowledge the fact that everyone has these cultural identities but

01:04:37.160 going to be asymmetric multiculturalism because one group is not allowed any kind of collective

01:04:41.080 identity they have to think of themselves purely um as individuals and to the extent that other

01:04:46.280 cultures do exist within our midst they're free to practice that and it because really deep down

01:04:51.000 what is it but blairism with a bit of fancy dress thrown in that's kind of the none of this kind of

01:04:55.240 cultural stuff cuts deep they can be citizens of a kind of enlightened liberal united kingdom

01:05:01.080 while cleaving to their ancestral identities and all the rest of it oh it's all through the blairite

01:05:05.240 prism yeah yes and so that's the asymmetric asymmetric multiculturalism angle uh but it

01:05:09.320 is interesting that whenever uh whenever we're talking about there is a comparison here like

01:05:13.400 starmer completely correctly in this case is does understand that what has what happened in the in

01:05:18.760 these sort of gold is green attacks i think it was in gold is green is a it was an attack on a group

01:05:23.240 it wasn't it was an attack on a kind of collective identity none of that was done in the henry novak

01:05:28.200 case and indeed in the judge's own judgment as which as he was sort of sentencing rather of um

01:05:33.000 um dig dig bar um what was the murderer called digwa digwa um he actually talks about the sikhs

01:05:39.900 as having exactly that form of collective identity he says said to digwa you brought shame not only

01:05:44.880 on your family he was actually as much annoyed about that but on the broader sikh community so

01:05:50.760 in in this sort of um and is it like this is not truly colorblind liberalism it is much more

01:05:57.840 something like asymmetric multiculturalism in which everyone is allowed and permitted to have

01:06:02.140 a group identity that that allows them to feel as though they belong apart from the the host people

01:06:07.400 of the nation itself yeah exactly right and on your on your point about it being blair i mean

01:06:12.340 of course the conservative party is is a blairite creation these days after david yeah and and i i

01:06:18.580 don't think most people in reform realize how much the blairite influence is invested into their

01:06:24.320 thinking as well yeah david bull nation of immigrants yes all that sort of stuff yeah yeah

01:06:28.900 100%. Recycled bearism.

01:06:31.180 I can't believe

01:06:32.920 you said Britain is a nation. Lifeblood of our

01:06:34.900 nation. Probably slightly

01:06:37.020 ironically, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure a lot of blood

01:06:38.800 has been spilled over it. Yes.

01:06:41.380 If there's anything, it's the opposite. 1.00

01:06:42.680 Emigration is partly what made the British

01:06:44.940 so world historical, not immigration. 0.69

01:06:47.500 Shout out to Michael Rainers

01:06:48.900 who did a very good interview

01:06:50.500 on Brokonomics that was

01:06:52.820 published yesterday. I had him in to talk about free

01:06:54.760 speech because he's doing good work on that.

01:06:56.740 He makes the point that Henry

01:06:58.540 now acts murder perfectly illustrates how in the past decades british state apparatus have been

01:07:02.780 fine-tuned to see the outsider to the british as the client and the englishman as the enemy at all

01:07:09.980 levels of society and it's been deliberate open eyes and it's been ostensibly to combat racism

01:07:16.140 and he points out look it's it's everything from criminal law to employment law

01:07:20.060 there were a whole bunch of examples in i mean bbc um internships stuff like that i mean 0.53

01:07:25.020 Basically, all internships in large bodies these days, they're open to non-natives. 0.99

01:07:32.020 It's another reason why it's so stupid to describe our protesting this state of affairs as politicising it, 0.94

01:07:37.160 given that it is already political because this situation was politically engineered by our adversaries. 0.97

01:07:41.800 What they're basically saying is, stand down. You do not have a right to pursue your interests.

01:07:46.240 We have a right to pursue ours. When we pursue ours, we'll call it neutral politics.

01:07:50.380 When you pursue yours, we'll call it vulgar politicisation.

01:07:52.920 that has always been um tony blair's one of his main rhetorical tricks is that he

01:07:58.920 occupies the neutral frame yeah everything that he does is just the sensible normal thing to be

01:08:06.140 doing right now because if we don't do it then we won't be catching up we'll fall behind the

01:08:11.160 rest of the world and he'll do his like little weird hand gestures it'll do his blades yeah

01:08:15.600 oh we know the blades are that aren't that's exactly right that's exactly right like like

01:08:19.540 like as i think i put it before like blairism was basically um like like a political maneuver

01:08:26.900 posing as a sort of as an anti-political um like merely bureaucratic merely technocratic

01:08:32.420 merely commonsensical operation which is which is why sorry i'll say one more one last thing i'll

01:08:36.500 say whenever a blairite person or a blairite aligned institution i would include reform uk

01:08:41.380 in this now use the word unaccountable sorry use the word no sorry use the word independent

01:08:46.660 be very wary because if you were to substitute the word unaccountable for independent whether

01:08:51.460 we're talking about the independent supreme court or the independent body of whatever or

01:08:55.460 the independent commission on this or the independent quango on that if you put in the

01:08:58.740 word or independent obr or the independent bank of england you know substitute the word unaccountable

01:09:04.420 for independent that makes a lot more sense yes exactly right i i'd also note that um it's actually

01:09:11.220 the it's the police that i've seen the ex-police who are the fiercest critics of that arrest of

01:09:17.500 henry novak um yeah it's always it's always ex-police people who people who come out of the

01:09:22.800 force or have certainly been in it for a long time that recognize what it is i mean i'll break out my

01:09:27.760 anecdote that i did on my chat with karl last night i so as i mentioned i know a number of

01:09:31.780 people in police i'm thinking of one guy he wasn't he was in sussex police and he transferred over to

01:09:35.960 Hampshire police and I remember and this was this was maybe 10 years ago and he was going for a job

01:09:41.680 within the police a specialist role and in order to get the job you had to sit three exams

01:09:46.860 two of those exams were focused on skills for the job and the third one was basically race relations

01:09:54.440 it was DEI and he said to me in advance and and I wasn't doing I didn't have any public profile at

01:10:00.020 the time so it wasn't this isn't for effect he was just basically wanted to prove it to himself

01:10:03.320 he said i'm going to go and flunk the first two exams and i'm going to do all of my revision for

01:10:08.040 the third exam and i'm going to race it and that's exactly what he did and out of 12 candidates for

01:10:13.320 that internal police role he came 12 out of 12 for the two exams which was skills related to that

01:10:19.960 specialist role and first out of 12 for the race stuff they gave him the job now he did that

01:10:27.260 deliberately because he wanted to prove a point to himself about how far the police had fallen

01:10:30.900 and and bear in mind this this was not a senior role it was especially his job within the police

01:10:35.280 but it's not a senior role obviously everybody in the leadership of police only got there because

01:10:43.180 of their adherence to one consideration only and that is race relations hence this sort of

01:10:50.140 bollocks being why friends of mine who've been police officers have just decided no

01:10:54.020 if this is the institution i'm part of yes i'd rather drive a lorry because i don't want to

01:10:59.620 uphold these standards well i mean it explains why that that weird effect it's like why are so 0.99

01:11:05.620 many senior police lesbians it's because they know how to pass the exams well that was one of that 1.00

01:11:10.980 was one of the people i was listening to on the radio this morning he was talking about this whole 1.00

01:11:14.320 thing and it was like um some some woman who was part of some like anti-racist department within

01:11:21.340 the police was trying desperately to justify all of this with stephen lawrence stephen lawrence

01:11:26.100 and i just thought what an awful harpy what an awful harpy you are and again my one of my friends

01:11:32.140 who signed up for the police he did so he trained from a very young age for it because when he was 0.83

01:11:36.560 young he was stabbed and he decided he wanted to uphold law and order so that could never happen

01:11:43.700 to anybody he must have been disappointed yeah exactly exactly and now he's seeing things like

01:11:48.200 this where it's like oh if you've been stabbed they're gonna throw the cuffs on you yeah this

01:11:52.300 is one of the reasons why i really unfortunately it's been dying down a bit but i really dislike

01:11:56.320 that sort of 2015 era slop line wheeled out by many let's be frank boomer cons where they'll say

01:12:03.500 you with your sort of wokey cokey gender studies degree good luck getting employed on that no no

01:12:08.240 they're going to they're going to be they're going to be handcuffing you in 10 years time 0.91

01:12:11.720 because they're the only people who are now entering these institutions if you don't have

01:12:14.500 you can't get to the top of the police exactly so you get one of those and you can be chief

01:12:18.960 superintendent exactly so you know like yes given that every every other part of our society is

01:12:24.700 organized in order to in order to accommodate this ideology people who are specialists in that

01:12:29.680 in in that field of studies absolutely right obviously it's a prima facie absurd degree but

01:12:34.040 you know the employment market the employment market won't have any trouble soaking them up

01:12:37.760 at all no no and what you do is you go to the top of the institution off the back of that and you

01:12:42.000 say don't worry i've trained to be as racist as possible i'm a specialist i've got an advanced

01:12:49.060 degree from the edward dutton university and yeah exactly so i at this point i was going to

01:12:55.380 introduce various arguments to smooth us into the mcpherson report um you know david betts and

01:13:01.280 rafe are particularly eloquent on this uh but but you guys have already got there so i'm just i'm

01:13:05.640 just going to jump straight into it um so let's just remind us of william mcpherson who died

01:13:10.800 peacefully in his bed age 94 um the very senior judge who did the response to the stephen lawrence

01:13:18.380 case um that was a few years ago he passed away so we didn't have to see what what britain became

01:13:24.660 um but nevertheless william mcpherson he was um you know he was a good man he was a world war ii

01:13:30.700 veteran um very high intelligence um and basically he needed it to write the mcpherson report because

01:13:37.960 it is so full of contradictions that only somebody of remarkable intellect can make it hang together

01:13:43.340 in any way whatsoever now this article here i mean this is an old one now this is spring 2009

01:13:49.940 fantastic article yeah it is and i'm just gonna i'm just gonna pick out a few sections from here

01:13:54.820 um because it kind of does it so well so so one part of it says the report's real effect however

01:14:01.000 was to demoralize further an already demoralized police force which after the immediately after

01:14:06.820 the report appeared retreated from stop and searching people behaving suspiciously and watch

01:14:11.900 street robberies increased 50 percent so i mean even within a couple of years of this report you

01:14:18.860 were seeing the the negative downstream consequences he talks in one bit about how the public gallery

01:14:23.980 was overflowed with extremists who would every time somebody was posing a counter point of view

01:14:29.720 they would be shouted down and mcpherson basically let them get away with it so it created a very

01:14:33.900 hostile environment during the thing um and and to my point a moment ago uh poor sir william

01:14:40.400 tied himself in knots trying to explain the notion of institutional racism relying in part

01:14:46.360 on great moral authority and race relations as mcpherson admitted he could point to no actual

01:14:52.280 instances of racial racial behavior by the um officers involved in the case um but uh yeah

01:15:01.140 So thus Macpherson's redefinition of racism, failure to adjust policies and methods to meet the needs of policing in a multiracial society can occur simply because police officers may have mistakenly believed that it is legitimate to be colourblind.

01:15:17.480 So going back to your segment, they're trying to go back to being colourblind.

01:15:22.260 Well, the Macpherson report was saying it's not legitimate to be colourblind.

01:15:25.600 Yeah, because it was predicated upon the assumption that Britain was already institutionally racist and structurally racist and compromised with all sorts of pathologies, such that formal equality before the law was really just a covert way of continuing the unjust state of affairs.

01:15:42.180 What you actually need is proactive, curative measures fed through the capillaries of institutions like the Metropolitan Police.

01:15:48.780 And so it's just a kind of perpetual revolution that's constantly going.

01:15:51.980 you have basically in short you you in the name of correcting for past injustices and

01:15:57.240 invisible present racial injustice we need to treat different groups unequally in order to

01:16:02.380 make them equal that is that that is the that is that is the pitch it's distilled intersectionality

01:16:06.820 think back to the smithsonian like what is whiteness display and it's things like objectivity

01:16:12.840 and individualism and all of these different standards which just come naturally to someone

01:16:17.300 like you or i where the mcpherson report said well actually if we apply my new article of faith

01:16:23.140 because that results in disparate outcomes because shock of all shocks different groups

01:16:28.720 have different behaviors that lead to different outcomes when they're all put through an objective

01:16:33.100 system uh that's racist and that's bad yes it's also it's also an implicit rebuke to the whole

01:16:39.280 line about like post-war immigrant populations considered as wholesale populations having

01:16:45.280 integrated and assimilated wonderfully into the fabric of our national life no doubt there will

01:16:50.020 be individuals who have done a fairly good job of integrating but you know you will often see for 0.92

01:16:56.500 instance that the Windrush generation presented as oh just the latest iteration of a process that's

01:17:02.180 been going on for hundreds of years think about the Huguenots well when the Huguenots came in the

01:17:05.780 17th century we didn't have to reorganize our whole system of law enforcement in order to accommodate 0.99

01:17:10.940 uh their presence here so it's an implicit rebuke to the idea that so you two are absolutely right

01:17:16.320 and and we know and with your characterization there so mcpherson has made it very clear

01:17:21.280 that if you are colorblind you're racist okay what does it say on the very next page of the report

01:17:27.740 on the very next page however sir william quoted approvingly the assertion of the association of

01:17:33.920 black police officers institutional racism leads to officers to act albeit unconsciously and for

01:17:39.460 the most part unintentionally to treat others differently um differently because of their

01:17:44.600 ethnicity and culture so basically we've just established that if you do see no color you're

01:17:50.780 racist but here on the very next page of the report we're saying but if you if you don't well

01:17:56.460 you're also racist and that's a shred of evidence presented for any of it it's all just magical

01:18:02.600 thinking yes there's no evidence for any of it people now just take it as an article of faith 0.97

01:18:08.180 that the mcpherson report uncovered this den of vipers that the police were who were going around 0.92

01:18:13.640 like the kkk hog tying black people and abusing them and lynching them in the street whereas when 0.97

01:18:20.320 you actually read the bloody thing it's just incredibly confused yes exactly you know he was 0.99

01:18:26.080 actually as a witch finder general it was him saying look if you do this thing you're racist

01:18:31.100 also if you don't do this ring you're racist right now police um you get on with figuring out how that

01:18:37.660 works now um you know i would also make the point because you know i i have to listen to people

01:18:43.300 ringing into radio stations and hosts saying you know basically stephen lawrence he was an angel

01:18:47.540 wasn't he um and all of that stuff well um let me i mean quite another little bit from this

01:18:53.020 um for example when the police arrived at the murder scene because it wasn't just stephen

01:18:56.680 lawrence there was uh i think michael brooks who was there at the same time a friend dwayne brooks

01:19:01.840 dwayne brooks sorry that's that's a more there was a number of people involved in this situation

01:19:06.500 when the police arrived at the scene

01:19:09.420 Brooks shouted at the police

01:19:11.380 who called you effing

01:19:13.360 C words anyway 0.99

01:19:14.580 then he called them pigs 0.72

01:19:16.280 I only called an ambulance

01:19:18.140 now that was kind of the response the police got

01:19:21.440 can we

01:19:23.720 even begin to imagine

01:19:25.260 why the police

01:19:27.460 were slow off the bat to treat them as victims

01:19:29.560 when that was the initial response

01:19:31.640 Dan all I can say is that in my

01:19:33.500 history of researching all of the

01:19:35.460 civil rights heroes of the latter half of the 20th century is that you know uh to a man angels

01:19:41.340 the lot of them and they're apparently so never been a lie told about any of them apparently

01:19:46.340 apparently so now as this article um you know points out amongst and then this is the really

01:19:51.420 the key bit that just does unhinge the police entirely amongst reports many pernicious

01:19:56.120 recommendations was the following the definition of a racist incident should be any incident which

01:20:01.400 is perceived as racist by the victim or any other person and that sent the police into a spiral to

01:20:09.420 where you get the things like the hampshire and isle of white constabulary where henry novak was

01:20:13.980 killed them trying to work out what the hell is going on here with this contradictory set of

01:20:20.760 statements and put it into something that they can understand and uh you know and and bastani

01:20:26.500 aaron bastani was looking at this and he's a lefty and he was looking at it saying what the

01:20:31.100 hell does this even mean this is from the hampshire and isle whites race action plan

01:20:34.820 and it's like different and somebody points out it was different rules to different people what

01:20:38.380 else can it mean and he's like does it mean that i think but it's also ambiguous and poorly written

01:20:43.220 and as i try to explain to him look mcpherson was 150 iq high court judge and it took him

01:20:51.320 to put the McPherson report together

01:20:53.340 which barely held together

01:20:54.860 this contradictory mess.

01:20:56.800 And now you've got 20 years later

01:21:00.120 you've got some police DEI officers

01:21:02.840 whose probably two or three

01:21:04.400 standard deviations

01:21:05.460 standard deviation in IQ is 15 points.

01:21:08.960 So they're probably two or three

01:21:09.940 standard deviations in IQ

01:21:11.740 lower than McPherson.

01:21:13.180 And they've been given this mess

01:21:14.540 and they're trying to figure it out

01:21:15.720 and to put it into context.

01:21:17.220 Of course, if the McPherson report

01:21:18.760 was a bloody mess,

01:21:19.820 of course when the Hampshire 1.00

01:21:20.920 and isle of white police try and draw up their operational guidance of them of course it's going 0.61

01:21:25.160 to be a complete bloody shambles um yeah this thing so again look it does not mean treating

01:21:31.980 everybody the same or being colorblind so so all these people coming out like keir starmer and

01:21:37.160 shabana mcmood saying look of course there's no two-tier policing this is the police handbook

01:21:42.620 well well i mean the the ultimate like takeaway from the first report from the two articles which

01:21:49.160 are most important are different outcomes is racist and if the if anybody at all perceives

01:21:59.400 what you're doing as racist then it's racist how are you supposed to do anything how are you so

01:22:08.040 obviously under that kind of constraint as a police officer if you know that your job your

01:22:14.680 mortgage your reputation is on the line just oh what i could any if i just treat this fairly it'll

01:22:22.460 be perceived as racist by someone and i'll be dragged in front of uh and i it was iopcc um

01:22:30.280 court and nothing kills a police police officer's career faster than any allegation of racism yeah

01:22:35.720 well then of course just if there's a situation where it's a white guy and a brown guy well i

01:22:40.580 know that browns can never be racist to whites so i'll just take his side no matter what yep 0.99

01:22:45.820 exactly so i mean and that's why they've got this complete mess that they can't deal with 0.93

01:22:50.200 um i mean going back to the protests in southampton i mean um if if you're not

01:22:55.500 you just don't get that treatment there we go five officers holding holding down a protester

01:23:02.900 while that guy basically just repeatedly kicks him in the head um the thing as well like one of

01:23:08.680 the things that i found is i i'm a big fan of mma and the and the ufc mixed martial arts sports

01:23:13.860 so i don't know a fair bit about it like an enthusiastic amateurish watch viewer um and

01:23:18.380 one thing that i found very suspicious about the george floyd thing straight more or less straight

01:23:21.680 away in 2020 even though i was somewhat primed to kind of take it take it on good faith was the fact

01:23:26.640 that derek chauvin had his knee on george not really even on george floyd's neck but more sort

01:23:31.720 of on his sort of shoulder i have never in the history of the ufc seen anyone submit their

01:23:37.780 opponent let alone kill their opponent which has never happened in the history of the ufc

01:23:40.500 by kneeling on their shoulder that would cause a lot of pain wouldn't kill someone whereas that

01:23:44.220 move that we just saw there i have seen that used very effectively in the ufc and the point is only 0.53

01:23:51.280 natives get that treatment when when they when you have those teen takeovers in croydon

01:23:55.640 you don't get any of that well also on the floyd thing chauvin was what five nine maybe 150 pounds 0.69

01:24:02.660 floyd was a six foot five giant monster made of made of muscle and also i've i've done uh

01:24:09.520 brazilian jiu-jitsu uh before i know how to apply a rear naked choke hold like that doesn't do that's

01:24:17.940 not going to choke you out it will hurt maybe you'll get a bad crick in your neck maybe if you

01:24:22.820 apply too much pressure you'll slip a disc or maybe even break something you're not going to

01:24:27.600 choke someone out going to do harm to anyone's trachea or any of the sort of like vital 0.85

01:24:31.400 infrastructure in a person's neck i mean the um i noticed that the association of black police

01:24:36.680 officers made a statement um yesterday which is to say what evidence is there of two-tier policing

01:24:41.400 well the evidence is is that there is not a white association of british police officers 0.69

01:24:46.380 you are the exactly you are the evidence for this morgoth tweeted to that effect didn't he yeah

01:24:52.260 um exactly right so i mean um the mother of stephen lawrence was uh made a baroness she

01:24:58.000 was born in Jamaica but she now sits in the House of Lords as a response to this I don't think the

01:25:02.920 same will be happening to any of the parents of Henry Novak my point I don't think I mean the

01:25:09.860 points I've raised during this segment I don't think that the British police can be saved because

01:25:16.480 like I say all the promotion anyone above the rank of sergeant is just a pure ideologue you have to

01:25:23.520 be in order to get promotion you have to pass the racism exams so i mean if i was speaking to

01:25:28.400 somebody who had any influence over a future government right what i would say is you have

01:25:32.740 to start again create a new police clear them out no create a new police force and maybe half of the

01:25:39.460 lower ranked officers you can take into the new police force but the the police they just can't

01:25:43.480 be saved at this point it's definitely something that we're we're thinking about behind the scenes

01:25:47.340 i i'm not the i'm not the man to to do the serious legwork there we'd probably have to bring in

01:25:53.260 a specialist but i'm you know uh so we're certainly thinking about it a great deal well when you get

01:25:57.860 into if you need somebody to sit there all day long firing senior police officers i will be happy

01:26:03.060 to be that specialist i will sit there on i might even do it in person some of them on zoom make a

01:26:07.340 game show out of it yes exactly it's the sort of work that needs to be done properly it's not

01:26:10.720 something that i'm just going to kind of you know pose ideas on the hoof right here um right so uh

01:26:16.580 do we have any of we've got one more from random name at the top there uh it's the same thing here

01:26:21.860 in canada i work in a hospital and the only people going up the hierarchy are the old 0.95

01:26:26.740 woke hags and their uh immigrant pets everything is fake and gay indeed to go by yes right i do 0.98

01:26:35.780 believe we have some um of the comment another video comment things do we could we have them 0.98

01:26:40.500 is that a thing i've got quite a few we looks like samson's lining them up oh yes something

01:26:48.100 is happening down there make it happen samson nothing is ever happening dan have you not learned

01:26:53.460 this yet well i can see something happening i don't know what he's doing it's an illusion

01:27:00.020 just imagine it like adam curtis in the back of your mind but that was a fantasy

01:27:04.660 i can see stuff going on on the screens but there's no video and yet nothing happened

01:27:11.700 there we go

01:27:18.100 hey lotus here's just to give you guys some friendly advice um just you guys don't like

01:27:23.700 cover the same like four to five many topics all the time

01:27:31.060 it might be a good year to branch out sometimes and do what you normally did sometimes and do some

01:27:36.820 other topics like in america because in oregon they have a bill they want to they dispensed

01:27:43.220 that bands all agriculture and california you have a guy writing for governor that seems

01:27:47.940 chad come on guys there are subjects that i've been looking at like that uh like uh there's a

01:27:55.900 guy in i think it might be the uh the guy in california there is somebody who's running for

01:28:00.500 the democrats in america soon who's like talking about how oh i'm a chad who loves to go out

01:28:06.000 hunting i love guns and i love freedom but i'm a democrat so is this an interesting rebrand from

01:28:11.240 at least one of them going on right now i do see like generally across the west there seems to be

01:28:16.940 a rebrand of the center left where they want to go like um those those far right people

01:28:23.620 they're insane we're the sensible people men you can love us too we don't hate you anymore

01:28:29.760 we're not going to replace you quite as quickly you can come over and you can trust us yes i'd

01:28:34.980 just like to point out the chat is now getting highly excited because i said that something is

01:28:38.880 starting to happen down there don't take me out of context behave yourself next video please

01:28:42.980 In regards to Vikram Digwa, I'm thrilled to see a guilty verdict and a non-inconsequential sentence, but it's clear we're dealing with a cultural issue here.

01:28:49.980 Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it, so let's look at precedent.

01:28:52.980 In India and Pakistan, blowing from the gun was a capital penalty employed by the Mughals and more, and was adopted by the East India Company and the British Empire. 0.77

01:28:58.980 The reason was practical. It was a deterrent because it was so dramatic, and also because it interfered with the religious death rates of Indians who required an intact body.

01:29:06.980 It was highly effective and so we kept using it. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned there. 1.00

01:29:12.980 i'm all in favor of that why not make it dramatic

01:29:18.820 well the rest of the world may call it pride month but well this is what we're proud of

01:29:26.100 it's that time of the year again boys going to be spending a week here with the

01:29:30.820 former alerts and maybe enjoying a few beers together and telling tall tales

01:29:39.860 very good

01:29:42.980 Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am here showing you the sights of lovely Springfield, Missouri

01:29:53.320 as I prepare to celebrate my variation on Pride Month, aka Military Pride Month. We're getting

01:30:01.140 together with the Long Range Reconnaissance Association in Branson here as soon as my

01:30:05.840 rental car is ready. More white pills to come.

01:30:09.180 Presumably that's where The Simpsons is filmed.

01:30:15.180 Well, yesterday was a depressing podcast,

01:30:17.940 so here's a bit of my cat responding to me

01:30:20.140 by repeating back the word of his favourite treat.

01:30:22.680 You want a greenie? 0.75

01:30:25.120 Yeah! 1.00

01:30:25.960 Cats have small ear bones,

01:30:27.220 so they're more attuned to higher-pitched speech

01:30:28.960 and seem to pick up human words

01:30:30.620 by associating pitch, syllable count, and length with actions.

01:30:34.580 I call the kitten Penelope,

01:30:36.380 and also by the name Pippi.

01:30:37.500 she responds to both names but also responds to the name poopy very cute also bizarre to hear you

01:30:45.840 talk in anything other than your normal tone of voice even lambeth you might already have heard

01:30:51.720 that the borough is now in no overall control after we all voted against labor the green's

01:30:57.320 first motion was to change the way that the borough works using a committee system this

01:31:02.820 was in their manifesto the meeting last night they withdrew from their commitment

01:31:06.480 and what followed instead were some blatant power grabs with them voting against greater scrutiny

01:31:11.640 and to increase the size of their own allowances they realized they didn't have the votes to carry

01:31:16.860 these amendments they tried to filibuster the entire meeting even that it's in lambeth as well

01:31:23.260 i'm sure they all turned up to the vote in lamborghinis oh my goodness gas guzzlers i don't

01:31:28.200 know whether you saw so it's saying we need more money actually we need more money to fight the

01:31:32.220 climate crisis oh that's that's amazing yeah so i found it interesting that the left was recently

01:31:39.380 whinging about the freemasons and whatnot and i'm thinking the only people that really fit

01:31:46.340 the concept of a freemason cabal is the woke movement itself because remember every person

01:31:53.140 that's part of it knows that they have to give legs up to their fellow wokesters i mean if you're

01:31:58.400 a woke judge you know that if one of your own client groups comes to the pulpit you give them

01:32:03.500 a lesser sentences because they're one of your own honestly we need to start treating all left

01:32:07.760 wingers like they're part of like an organization like this they are they are of a cult-like

01:32:14.920 mentality so is this back where we started then yes it is right so um we've run over a little bit

01:32:22.980 and I do have an interview with a fascinating guest coming up.

01:32:26.520 So maybe we just do one or two comments at most from each.

01:32:32.360 For the first segment, Daniel Butcher says,

01:32:34.640 I had to prove my age in order to order woodworking tools

01:32:38.260 like marking knives with a quarter-inch blade,

01:32:41.980 plain spoke shaves, etc.

01:32:43.860 When ordering for a business account using a business bank account

01:32:46.680 and having it sent to my business address,

01:32:48.500 these knife crimes are not a problem of how easy they are to get knives uh yes yes uh very much

01:32:57.020 janvi says what shocked me was the fact that henry was arrested at all he's clearly not a

01:33:01.100 threat and very obviously hurt they just uh chose to close their eyes to what's in front of them

01:33:06.020 blindly believe that somebody had said because they were minority yep indeed i'll go through

01:33:12.220 some of mine dirty belter if the likelihood of getting just justices via lynch mob uh is higher

01:33:17.500 than via the law and the cost is equal or lower then you will see a rise in lynch mobs it's obvious

01:33:22.400 they should have learned this from southport they should have learned from rotherham they didn't

01:33:26.320 because they're blind someday the state will lose control and it'll be native versus anti-native and

01:33:30.920 yeah that what i see is an attempt right now to try and prevent that from happening by doing some

01:33:37.260 sensible reforms but we'll see if they can stick with them we'll see how far they go with them and

01:33:43.120 we'll see how it works out in the long run because there's an argument to be made that it's just too

01:33:46.520 far gone at this point particularly given the boris wave yes yes particularly given the boris

01:33:50.760 wave although obviously with ir ilr reforms uh they're trying to push back that demographic bomb

01:33:57.940 five more years so henry ashman why did this case blow up within the political zeitgeist

01:34:03.820 guys i think it's the body cam footage and the court proceedings that blew it up

01:34:07.440 you can't spin i've been stabbed i don't think you have mate i expect the government response

01:34:12.680 alongside the inevitable push for digital id is going to be greater scope for reporting restrictions

01:34:17.280 including super injuctions that prevent even mentioning that reporting restrictions are in

01:34:22.380 place i wouldn't be surprised if there's a little bit more transparency off the back of some of this

01:34:29.480 because there's been a lot of reporting uh i've seen people mentioning that you can't a lot of

01:34:34.820 this doesn't even a lot of the ethnicity of these people in these incidents doesn't get reported

01:34:38.920 and it seems that they they're like okay we need to do something about that because it's too obvious

01:34:44.040 that we're hiding it sorry oh yeah that was i was going to say that's part of what made southport

01:34:48.080 so febrile people forget this there was a temporary information vacuum and there was even speculation

01:34:51.880 online that he was one of the like a muslim boat person wasn't there yeah that was one of the things

01:34:56.940 that led to attack uh to the attacks on mosques and one of the things that led to the attacks on

01:35:00.840 asylum hotels despite the fact that obviously his parents had not uh been in an asylum situation

01:35:08.320 outside of being granted it for a very long time yes right we've gone we've gone 10 minutes over

01:35:14.160 even though we were only five minutes late to start although you were generous with the super

01:35:18.240 chat so i will let you off um thank you very much for uh turning up thank you to um harrison for

01:35:24.280 coming in uh thank you for harry being lovely as usual and uh of course thank you to me for

01:35:29.240 being excellent and uh see you in the next one

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 03, 2026

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