The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1435

00:00:00.640 Hello, and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters, episode 1435 for Monday, the 8th of June, 2026.

00:00:09.240 I'm your host, Luke Kirk, joined today by Firas and Beau, two very fine gentlemen.

00:00:14.360 And today we're going to be talking all about how the establishment are just not going to win the fight over the question of English identity.

00:00:23.380 We're then going to talk about the plods being pointless.

00:00:26.380 and then we're going to be talking about who's really creating problems in the iran war um

00:00:33.700 and enter your guesses in the chat i suppose anyway uh before the record that won't be my

00:00:39.260 segment it's bo i haven't seen what he's planning on saying just saying i'm going to be talking

00:00:45.460 about it later in real politic but he's how are you did i could zump you on that one no okay

00:00:50.800 all right well two announcements before we get into the main show obviously we have a new episode

00:00:57.740 of chronicles not just any episode of chronicles as well ladies and gentlemen the 50th episode of

00:01:03.560 chronicles and so we decided to mark the occasion got me beau samson our producer to just talk about

00:01:10.440 sharps eagle the first ever novel written by bernard conwell and the first sharp novel naturally

00:01:16.400 as well and we just had a great time didn't we having a discussion all about sharp and i mean

00:01:21.860 it had been requested you know that we cover sharp for quite a while and so i thought for the 50th

00:01:27.620 it was a good way to market uh people have been really enjoying it so if you're a sharp fan or if

00:01:33.140 you're just a good old history buff who loves the era of the peninsula war and the napoleonic era

00:01:38.740 then there's definitely something in there for you and i know that you'll really enjoy it uh also of

00:01:44.040 course it is monday so at three o'clock firas you will be doing realpolitik won't you yep yep yep

00:01:50.580 so whether or not the war is restarting on full or just partly um and uh how it got here and what's

00:01:58.360 happening in the defense industry in the united states because it's being taken over by israel

00:02:03.660 ah uh i see well if you want to catch obviously all of um ferris's insights and meticulous detail

00:02:11.000 on the subject then feel free to tune in at three o'clock on the website and don't forget

00:02:16.500 every weekday morning at 8 a.m breakfast with beau the beau show beau's breakfast club hashtag

00:02:21.980 real bbt where else would you go yeah there's no other there's no other place you want you

00:02:26.560 want based breakfast takes yes the only place to be all right so i want to go back to this clip

00:02:34.260 from Keir Starmer towards the start of the year because actually he is right about something

00:02:40.980 in the sense we'll play out the first time we'll play no he gets that wrong too i'm afraid okay

00:02:47.780 but we're going to play the first minute the next election is going to be unlike any election we've

00:02:53.380 seen in this country for a very very long time because my strong view is it'll be a labor

00:03:00.580 government up against a very right-wing proposition in reform and that reform proposition

00:03:09.580 will be a proposition of toxic divide of this country the next election is going to be

00:03:15.700 about a question of what is it to be british right so the next election is going to be

00:03:21.960 a mass debate really sorry i framed that terribly but the um it's going to be an entire basically a

00:03:29.680 referendum on the identity of Britishness, on the identity of Englishness, because we're at the

00:03:36.080 point now where the demographic situation is so palpable, so many people have arrived from so many

00:03:41.440 different places in the world, and each whilst they've been over here have been encouraged to

00:03:46.880 carve out their own little identities. And not only do you have days in London dedicated to each

00:03:53.580 one of them as well, it's not just that they get their days, it's also that they get yours as well.

00:03:59.680 Right, and this is really the thing. They get that and they get yours. Yours is diverse and global and multicultural, everything that it means to be British and to be English, whereas to be their particular thing is entirely parochial and in a very traditional sense what it means to have a culture and a people and an identity.

00:04:22.240 Now, Starmer obviously has made many errors in this.

00:04:25.820 First of all, I don't believe at this point in a few years' time

00:04:28.840 it will be a threat from reform.

00:04:31.440 I'm hoping, obviously, by that time it'll be

00:04:33.760 the full cylinders of restored Britain.

00:04:37.040 Aim by a vote low.

00:04:37.800 Yeah, by the absolute patriot in Chad that is Rupert Lowe.

00:04:42.540 And the other thing as well, though, that I just wanted to say about this

00:04:45.560 is that you see the way that Starmer is here.

00:04:49.080 I mean, not that this really singles him out.

00:04:51.240 so many clips but the lack of confidence and nervousness yes with which he approaches this

00:04:56.440 subject right he because it is it is a talking point that he is uncomfortable with having it's

00:05:03.900 what happens when you are very blatantly and obviously lying yeah and you feel that there

00:05:10.700 is a wall of truth that you're heading towards but you insist on lying until the very last second

00:05:16.280 right that's the nervousness that you're seeing and i think a part of it is baked into the hubris

00:05:22.920 of the establishment over the past decades actually a part of them never actually thought

00:05:28.920 this day would come they never thought they'd actually have to descend from the ivory tower

00:05:34.520 and engage with english anxieties over their own identity over their own cultural expression

00:05:41.480 over demographic questions they always felt like they'd never actually have to answer

00:05:47.080 for those things they obviously hoped it seems like they still hope that the english let's just

00:05:52.840 talk specifically about the english sure i'd hope the english would just roll over in silence and

00:05:58.440 go down without saying a word go gently and just yeah yeah right they had obviously hoped or thought

00:06:05.240 even calculated that that would be the case and still do i think they're trying everything to

00:06:10.200 to sort of manipulate that into happening, aren't they?

00:06:14.180 But I don't think it's going to happen.

00:06:15.940 No, I don't think so either.

00:06:17.540 And I also just want to draw on the fact that when Keir Starmer became prime minister, of course, as well,

00:06:22.940 he was coming in as prime minister straight off the back of Rishi Sunak being prime minister as well.

00:06:28.980 Now, you know, for the three of us, we are going to take the actual astute political analysis here

00:06:36.840 of the fact that Rishi Sunak was never actually elected by the British people.

00:06:41.780 He never won a general election.

00:06:43.660 He was forced into his position by a coup.

00:06:46.100 He didn't even win a membership election.

00:06:47.160 No.

00:06:47.460 He lost all his trust.

00:06:48.520 Right.

00:06:49.260 Because anybody of substance was slowly taken out until it was just, you know,

00:06:55.720 the letters or a Sunak, and then they proceeded to destroy the letters.

00:07:00.280 Exactly. 0.79

00:07:00.860 It was a wef coup d'etat, as far as I can tell. 0.85

00:07:03.900 As far as I'm concerned.

00:07:05.660 a characteristic that way this morning um i'll do it again right here seems like he's a hand

00:07:10.640 picked like liz trust wasn't the hand-picked wef candidate no he was yes and so i mean they

00:07:16.640 did it right in front of our faces the way they cued liz trust out for him not just that he had

00:07:21.620 been planning to overthrow boris johnson for many months before and had uh put up the website bought

00:07:29.060 the website ready for rishi or whatever it was months and months before there was any crisis

00:07:33.560 with Boris Johnson his resignation triggered the crisis he'd hoped that it would lead him to the

00:07:39.400 premiership directly the membership said actually we'll take this trust yeah got him anyway absolutely

00:07:47.040 and but there was this feeling that that when labor came into power that it was still business

00:07:52.560 as usual and that the actual multicultural consensus which is the only thing the establishment

00:07:57.900 actually like to lend their ears towards and everything else just oh it's divisive we don't

00:08:02.120 want to hear that it's like well you you can ignore uh hearing it but you can't ignore the

00:08:07.540 consequences of not hearing it uh because it is coming one way or another but ultimately the point

00:08:13.320 that was just going to draw on is the fact that starmer inherited this illusion of consensus over

00:08:19.040 multiculturalism let's not forget you know rishi sunak being like the second ethnic minority prime

00:08:25.080 minister after disraeli all the way back in obviously the victorian era uh kemi badenot

00:08:30.700 taking over and so now all of a sudden there's a nigerian at the head of the conservative party

00:08:35.340 you've obviously got zach polanski being jewish and so on and so forth and so it just feels like

00:08:41.100 the the establishment had the tendrils onto like all of it now it our politics was truly diverse

00:08:49.640 truly representative however these are people who in the labor party at least genuinely thought

00:08:57.720 that they'd won out of some popular will or support for themselves when nothing could be

00:09:04.060 furthest from the case and the fact as well that i think that when reform uk uh won five seats

00:09:10.740 in the last election obviously many of them were just using it as a protest vote and just wanted

00:09:16.780 to to wreck this system but again it's five seats it still feels distant it still feels like

00:09:23.360 something that you don't really have to grapple with and ultimately they've been kicking this can

00:09:28.820 down the road for all my life not wanting to have this conversation and now they are going to have

00:09:36.500 it whether they want it or not because part of my language but like every single day it just

00:09:44.540 there's a new level to lower themselves for just taking the uh you know taking the pee and so like

00:09:52.420 as we had with Sadiq Khan at the start

00:09:54.600 of this month. It's like, oh, this month marks

00:09:56.500 Gypsy Roma and Traveller History Month. 0.58

00:09:58.860 No, it doesn't. Moving on. 1.00

00:10:00.500 It's like, you know, I'm sorry, but like, the guys

00:10:02.820 from Snatch

00:10:03.840 have not had the same amount

00:10:06.600 of significance when it comes to

00:10:08.660 contributing to British

00:10:10.500 society and civilization and

00:10:12.420 the moral fabric

00:10:14.080 of our country.

00:10:15.800 Some kind of thieving god that allows them to steal

00:10:18.280 or something like that? Yeah, most likely.

00:10:20.680 I mean, I think that there's something

00:10:22.400 in the beliefs there that sort of allow justifies the patterns of behavior associated with the worst

00:10:28.960 stereotypes and you know it's just ridiculous yes i i had an interaction with travelers

00:10:38.560 a couple of weeks ago and it was just guys come on could you not confirm the series yes

00:10:43.840 well but this is the thing there is a stereotype and then there is yeah but that's inconvenient

00:10:49.520 to us so we need to like puff up the image of what is unanimously one of the least well-regarded

00:10:55.780 groups in in any european society really and at the same time as doing that so not only are we

00:11:02.540 going to big up the contributions of groups that have never really contributed anything but we're

00:11:07.940 going to diminish yours as well say that you have no true exceptional right or claim over these lands

00:11:15.080 and over the direction of travel of the country and its destiny

00:11:18.500 and how its history is written and just everything in its continuity.

00:11:24.700 And so you end up with them in this absolute bind as well

00:11:29.500 where all of a sudden, especially after, obviously, the Henry Novak case,

00:11:34.200 which, again, you can tell they're absolutely sweating over

00:11:37.020 because you have things like this, you have the Sadiq Khan stuff,

00:11:41.800 which on the one hand yeah it's frustrating and i wince every time i see it but it's not

00:11:47.580 life endangering it is a lower culture war form of thing that still matters to people still stirs

00:11:56.380 the emotions but it's not the life and death problems as encountered with henry novak and

00:12:03.340 you see david lammy here trying to explain uh the contradiction between how oh well we do have

00:12:09.840 equality in policing but well in fact i'll i'll just play it because it's he's not on principle

00:12:15.660 you are saying just clearly let's focus on policing the police should take into account

00:12:21.860 the color of someone's skin we are all equal before the law so that is not the starting point

00:12:28.720 but it is the case recognizing that in our country it is still the case that on arrest

00:12:35.180 on prosecution, conviction, I'm afraid in our prisons.

00:12:42.340 Ethnic minorities are disproportionately in the criminal justice system,

00:12:45.800 so context can matter.

00:12:48.860 So what he's saying there is that I, as a man of African origin,

00:12:54.420 you know, and migrant past, I am telling you, Englishmen,

00:13:00.360 that you are always going to be treated differently

00:13:03.240 to our precious client groups and the minority communities yes we will we we know we have to say

00:13:10.860 that there is equality um you know of law because it's britain and that's just what we do here

00:13:16.580 but in reality by our own internal logic we know that we can't fulfill our hopes in that way so

00:13:24.120 yes we are going to keep treating you differently we are going to keep persecuting you and so on

00:13:29.900 and so forth

00:13:30.860 I mean it's not even

00:13:33.320 taking into account

00:13:34.140 the obvious thing

00:13:35.640 is it there

00:13:36.820 the obvious

00:13:37.260 the elephant in the room

00:13:38.300 different crime rates

00:13:40.520 that per capita

00:13:41.540 yeah

00:13:41.960 if you break it down

00:13:43.020 by ethnicity

00:13:43.840 the native white Brits

00:13:47.520 yeah 1.00

00:13:47.760 are among the lowest 1.00

00:13:49.880 and certain minority groups

00:13:52.660 commit crimes per capita

00:13:55.180 yeah

00:13:55.860 on an astronomically higher level

00:13:58.760 yeah

00:13:59.900 yeah of course he doesn't want to talk about that ever really addressed that he doesn't want to talk

00:14:03.500 about that but i think what was really funny about this whole thing was owen jones defending

00:14:09.260 giving special screenings for prostate cancer for blacks because per capita oh we understand

00:14:15.020 a lot more likely to have certain conditions when it comes to gibbs they understand per capita right

00:14:21.660 yeah right um and so all of a sudden you're starting to see um articles like this from

00:14:28.540 the bbc i mean it's not the first time that they've written but my point is really that

00:14:32.860 we're going to see more and more of this as time goes on we're going to see more and more of as

00:14:39.260 say the tendrils of the establishment trying to reach in trying to grasp trying to control the

00:14:45.260 narrative that is slipping away from them day by day just by the sheer dint of the fundamental

00:14:52.700 Just as you were saying, Beau, there with Lammy, like everything that they do has multiple layers of dishonesty to it, multiple layers of contradictions.

00:15:02.860 And they're at the point now where after taking away our cities, after taking away the tranquility and the high trust environment that was Britain,

00:15:14.480 after hollowing out its institutions to make them serve causes of social justice for the new 0.97

00:15:21.580 arrivals and so on and so forth after making sure that you can't see a single advert in which

00:15:27.800 they're not represented and for some reason um you know like it's always the white guy who is 0.99

00:15:34.840 the criminal or the perpetrator now if there's a you know fool just constant all the public fool 0.99

00:15:39.880 just constantly inverting the truth that you see before your eyes on and on it goes until they go 0.95

00:15:45.860 for the last thing that they actually have left to take which is of course the English flag because

00:15:51.680 the flag is of course for the people and that is not ideological because actually it doesn't matter

00:15:58.400 what's in the Englishman's head he is an Englishman irrespective of what he thinks

00:16:04.440 because he is English, he is born English.

00:16:08.100 And so they have this enormous attack about it

00:16:11.700 and they try to point out the fact, it's like,

00:16:13.540 well, there's this deeply contentious debate going on here.

00:16:16.920 It's like, well, all right,

00:16:18.480 let's have that contentious debate then, shall we?

00:16:21.400 I would say, for anyone who's only listening to this,

00:16:24.580 there's an in-depth BBC article and the headline is

00:16:28.120 the deeply contentious debate around what it means to be English.

00:16:30.860 There's no deeply contentious debate.

00:16:32.420 No.

00:16:32.720 There isn't one, there simply isn't one.

00:16:34.440 it's contrived by people that want us replaced and ultimately annihilated of course entirely

00:16:40.620 contrived there's no real contentious debate whatsoever so this whole thing is perverse

00:16:45.960 and subversive from top to bottom from start to finish absolutely uh it goes on uh saying this

00:16:52.740 the uh faye howard the then mayor of swindon of all places arranged an april parade because she

00:16:59.520 felt that england could do more to celebrate their national day uh because that's what it is we just

00:17:05.360 get a breadcrumb to celebrate who we are and again even when we do that it has to be all inclusive

00:17:11.540 properly diverse yes uh lol didn't you know that st george is turkish lol i might have heard it

00:17:17.720 once or twice every year for many years so far it says i've been careful about using the flag

00:17:23.980 this year because it's an election time and because i want to represent everybody in swindon

00:17:28.880 and I want to be fair to everyone in Swindon.

00:17:31.620 You don't have to be.

00:17:32.900 You've just said this is a day for the English.

00:17:35.360 You don't have to represent everyone.

00:17:37.860 Just read the subtext.

00:17:39.500 The subtext is that it is understood

00:17:41.480 that using the flag implies you're celebrating the English. 0.90

00:17:46.900 Yes.

00:17:47.840 And it is therefore understood that it is exclusive

00:17:50.920 of everyone else, including people like me, obviously.

00:17:54.200 And so there is this very, in the back of their minds,

00:17:58.880 They always know that they're lying, but they believe that if they repeat the lie often enough, everybody will just submit to it.

00:18:06.740 Yes. And the whole trick is just to bombard you with the same messaging over decades until you are sufficiently demoralized and defeated.

00:18:17.220 That's that's the whole thing. I, you know, every I represent Swindon, I want to be fair to everybody.

00:18:23.240 And I represent everybody. If you use the flag, you imply that you don't represent everybody.

00:18:27.500 you imply that you represent the english yes i mean that's the admission it's deeply sort of

00:18:34.560 politically morally weak yeah to have to hand ring and pearl clutch to even start talking about

00:18:42.060 england or the english flag or the english people you have to start with a round of apologetics

00:18:47.500 and also hard make into it that it's actually not exclusionary it's completely inclusive for

00:18:53.800 everyone well it's just not to start from a morally defeated position with your morale broken

00:19:00.640 and that is how you're allowed to engage but if you engage proudly oh that's a problem oh that's

00:19:08.860 dangerous other hand that's dangerous that needs to talk like parades exactly on the other hand 0.96

00:19:14.520 if you begin by celebrating the gypsies or blacks or asians or whatever it is no no no you are 0.91

00:19:22.000 entitled to start from a position of pride and strength so this is the psychology here which is

00:19:27.480 just but but also as well i mean this particular one there it there in a nutshell is a dilemma

00:19:33.700 around english identity and may is seeking to bring her community together but nervous that

00:19:39.480 the nation's flag could be seen as divisive it's like look how many times i mean you know

00:19:45.420 fortunately this is in swindon so i have a point of reference here but when you just walk along

00:19:51.560 the high street and you just see random people who are obviously from the boris wave who have

00:19:56.760 thick foreign accents and they're going about and it's like you see like the way that swindon works

00:20:01.580 there's one particular road that i know uh where all of the africans live there's one where all of 0.97

00:20:06.760 the pakistanis live and so on and so forth it's like no no i'm not part of their community and

00:20:12.280 they are not part of mine and i've no interest in track there is nothing there to bind us together 0.88

00:20:19.140 you don't want to learn about the african conception of time i don't care why that's 0.53

00:20:23.620 bloody racist yeah i'm not interested in integration no i'm not interested in attempting

00:20:29.540 to force these people to integrate in any way they should go back to the land of their ancestors 0.79

00:20:34.580 it's quite simple because it's that it's that the only thing that you could possibly hope for 0.85

00:20:39.860 is total and complete assimilation which means that in a generation or two

00:20:44.020 like the Huguenots, nobody knows that you ever came. 0.96

00:20:47.760 Nobody knows, you know, you might have some funny name

00:20:51.160 that points it out, but that's the end of it.

00:20:53.860 There's no Huguenot Lives Matter group in Britain.

00:20:58.180 And this is impossible in numbers, by definition,

00:21:01.080 because numbers impose their own logic,

00:21:02.920 which was Enoch's Powell whole point,

00:21:05.620 was that, look, you know, whatever you want to say

00:21:07.980 at the individual level, at a mass level,

00:21:10.380 it cannot ever work.

00:21:12.060 But the entire thing is built around the premise that everything that they do is designed to make England more homely for people who are not English and less homely for people who are. 0.55

00:21:26.160 That you give, they take, and that is the only direction of travel that we have seen for decades. 0.55

00:21:32.980 And by definition, if you are making it more homely for someone else, it will be less homely for you.

00:21:39.080 if you give a room to your house to a lodger that room is now theirs

00:21:45.060 that's it it's a zero-sum game yes that's my point sure and i think that one of the most

00:21:51.700 important points is uh when you talk about on mass because you say you you go down swindon

00:21:58.380 high street or whatever and then you see people of a certain type yeah it's not just it's not

00:22:03.580 just one or two or some it's that it's on a vast scale it's most of the people you walk through

00:22:09.600 swindon high street um certainly sort of the new part of town yes i don't go to old town much but 1.00

00:22:15.140 in a new part of town and um it's absolutely swamped by middle easterners sub-saharan africans 0.97

00:22:21.620 east africans absolutely swamped so before when people say oh restore britain when do you want 1.00

00:22:28.320 to go back to that kind of thing oh you want to return to something before to restore something

00:22:32.960 it was or when when would that be happens i'll take 1996 thank you um you know it doesn't have

00:22:39.540 to be steve law's every single last one but just so we're not demographically replaced i'll take

00:22:44.640 that go back to before blair go back to when we was 90 95 maybe a touch more homogenous that will

00:22:51.740 do it doesn't have to be every single last person it's not like foreign people can't come here on

00:22:55.640 holiday etc etc but just so we're not being demographically replaced and ultimately wiped

00:23:00.620 out in our one and only ancestral homeland is that too much to ask apparently that's too extreme

00:23:05.120 for someone like jacob reese mogg that's far too extreme yeah you can't have that it wasn't you

00:23:10.200 can't have a future for your children and progeny no you must accept being wiped out well no no i 0.91

00:23:16.940 don't think so i don't think so it's not extreme to bring millions and millions of people here

00:23:21.500 it's only extreme to what wish to send them back to wherever they came from exactly that isn't it

00:23:26.240 And this entire point about the BBC's framing of this is contentious.

00:23:30.360 You're absolutely right, Bo.

00:23:31.360 The point is, there is no contention whatsoever.

00:23:33.980 There are those who acknowledge and recognise the very real fact

00:23:37.220 that Englishness is grounded in ancestry,

00:23:40.340 and there are those who oppose this for purely ideological reasons.

00:23:45.620 Right? It's that simple.

00:23:46.940 It really isn't any more complicated than that.

00:23:50.980 And to go back to something else you were saying as well, Bo,

00:23:53.980 You're not the only person who has nostalgia for the mid-90s as well, because as we see here, World Cup will reveal how divisive the St. George's flag has become.

00:24:04.400 And throughout this article, I'm skipping ahead a bit just for the sake of time.

00:24:09.120 I'll just say, when some people say they feel uneasy or even attacked in some level by merely seeing the St. George's cross, I don't care.

00:24:19.340 No, no, no, of course.

00:24:20.040 i don't really believe them and either way even if they're in good faith i don't care that's not

00:24:25.880 my problem i believe them okay that's a them problem yes this is our country and that's our

00:24:31.480 flag yes but we're not going to abandon it we're not just going to go into the darkness in silence

00:24:35.480 actually it the flag means that you aren't gone yet and that therefore we the foreigners might

00:24:45.880 be gone one day it is therefore instantly seen as a threat because of it so i do believe that

00:24:55.720 they are uncomfortable with it i i'm in a weird situation as a convert and therefore an apostate

00:25:02.760 and whatever but i do believe that they're uncomfortable with it i firmly believe that

00:25:09.560 Because it threatens, what, their invasion, their genocidal goals.

00:25:14.920 Imagine if you were squatting.

00:25:16.400 If you're squatting and the landlord shows up, would you be uncomfortable?

00:25:22.480 Yeah, no, I get it. I understand. I understand, yeah.

00:25:25.360 That's what it is. So they're genuinely uncomfortable with it.

00:25:30.220 Sorry, just to skip a course, I've probably timed this one a bit poorly, to be honest with you.

00:25:35.160 But the way that it says here, like for David Baddiel, the comedian and presenter who co-wrote the song Three Lions for a World Cup, it says that it was a sentimental memory for me.

00:25:46.520 All those flags and hats and face painted children.

00:25:49.500 I've always felt like it was a rare example of non-triumphalist, non-aggressive patriotism.

00:25:55.460 But that didn't last.

00:25:56.900 The St. George's Cross is more complicated now.

00:25:59.540 It's like, again, it's like, no, it meant exactly then what it means now.

00:26:04.420 you are the what has changed is that you now see it as a tool that you have to control i mean you

00:26:12.000 did there obviously because you laid out your reasons for it but the problem was back in 96

00:26:16.880 the english weren't staring down this existential crisis no one thought i mean obviously pal warned

00:26:23.000 about it but no one thought that how fast and how quickly it was all going to be accelerated

00:26:28.720 It wasn't triumphalist and aggressive because there was not much to be that worried about then when you had 95, 96%.

00:26:37.380 Now, we know that the grooming gangs were operating in the 90s, so that's a different story.

00:26:42.600 But in the public perception, it was in the same way that the Chinese flag isn't contentious for the Chinese because it is overwhelmingly Han Chinese.

00:26:53.820 That's the issue.

00:26:55.640 That's David Baddiel trying to argue that it's more complicated now.

00:26:59.700 What, more complicated by your tribalist grift, David?

00:27:03.100 It's more complicated in your mind now.

00:27:06.460 There's another part further down the article that I'll just quickly cap in with as well,

00:27:11.020 which is that it says,

00:27:12.080 the story also highlights the way that an everyday symbol,

00:27:14.940 something as familiar and old shoe comfortable as the Church of England itself,

00:27:20.220 has been foregrounded by recent events.

00:27:22.520 England didn't used to be a nation of flag-wavers outside of special occasions,

00:27:29.380 Tom Randall, former Tory MP, says.

00:27:32.360 For better or worse, it is a relatively recent phenomenon.

00:27:36.760 In fact, it may be our very mildness and understatement described by George Orwell

00:27:41.700 as, quote, the gentleness of the English civilization

00:27:44.760 that is now helping dubious actors to co-opt national iconography for their own ends.

00:27:50.720 And what, again, there's a little bit of truth baked into there in the sense that, yes, we actually, beyond the old military parade, we actually weren't like a very flag-waving nation.

00:28:02.840 Not like the American.

00:28:03.520 It just wasn't in our character. 0.59

00:28:05.720 However, we've seen before our very eyes our character, the very nature of who the English are, changing in the face of the attacks on it, on our way of life, on our character, have only ever been dictated to about who we are allowed to be, not allowed to express who we actually are.

00:28:26.780 one thing i would say i perhaps use the word jingoism um that when i was a kid in the 80s

00:28:34.320 and a teenager in the 90s and things uh it they'd already been decades and decades of

00:28:39.600 trying to dial down jingoism and i actually don't mean that word as a pejorative in any way

00:28:45.160 i don't think there's uh so okay even by the 80s and 90s before tony blair um already you've had

00:28:51.880 decades of trying to stamp that out and quell it down and dial it down yeah if you go back to sort

00:28:58.320 of pre-world war ii we go back to the 19th century where it's extremely jingoistic extremely flag

00:29:04.900 waving utterly utterly proud and unapologetic it's only in the post-war consensus era that

00:29:11.580 all that has been tried to be stamped out yeah and they've tried to stamp on the last the last

00:29:16.960 embers of it now and it's it's not going out no nor should it um and there's just one more point

00:29:23.700 as well and i'll conclude with this which is the point that when um kia starmer to go back to the

00:29:28.420 clip that i was playing at the beginning says i believe to be british is to be compassionate

00:29:32.840 reasonable live and let live and diverse this was his actual quote it's like well

00:29:37.440 you can't have those prime minister it's like when the english live in a society that's basically

00:29:43.840 uncompassionate towards our anxieties and, you know, unreasonable in answering our pleas for

00:29:50.360 justice and security in our own cultural identity. And we can't have the live and let live times

00:29:57.240 because every single train carriage you go into, there is someone who does not live up

00:30:03.300 to the philosophy of live and let live. And that's only to talk about something trivial

00:30:08.500 in comparison to the very many dangers that we have been put in

00:30:12.940 as Henry Novak's life was brought short

00:30:16.540 and not allowed to live and let live and so on.

00:30:20.300 And so this entire thing is baked into it

00:30:24.900 is that they are going to tell you what it means to be English.

00:30:28.380 And this is going to force them to say,

00:30:31.200 yeah, okay, so yeah, this football is English because he does good things.

00:30:35.580 And it's like, OK, but what about all of these really, really terrible examples of people that we see every single day that are covered up for and defended by government corruption and institutional rot and subversion and all of these things?

00:30:51.520 So for the sake of time, I'll draw it to an end there. But ultimately, the fight for English identity is one that they're entirely unprepared for. And the reason that they're unprepared for it is simple, because they don't have the truth on their side, and we do.

00:31:09.040 and so we're actually able to be very at ease we're able to to just simply speak the truth

00:31:15.680 about who we are and not just about who we are as what uh who we are as englishmen but

00:31:20.680 the nature of identities in the human character right when we're not fighting

00:31:26.240 through multiculturalism against a very human condition itself um and for that reason we will

00:31:34.980 win so i apologize for uh if that was a bit rambling my timekeeping wasn't strongest fine

00:31:42.900 my segment needn't be yeah i haven't got uh like i don't need a full 25 minutes all right

00:31:48.900 fair enough don't worry about it um i'll just read the rumble rants and so that's a random name says 0.94

00:31:54.580 um it it actually is the gypsy month after all they stole it from the gays as is their tradition 0.67

00:32:02.260 that's a funny one and cookieboyer23 says the english had to tone down their patriotism 0.95

00:32:08.620 because of the union and it might upset the scots well you know old habits

00:32:14.740 right so i wanted to talk a little bit about the uselessness of the police but also look at some of

00:32:24.220 the training manuals and documents coming out from the top of the police to explain why they

00:32:32.540 are clearly making political choices simply to let crime run rampant and focus primarily on

00:32:40.040 being the anti-racist force in society. I want to start with an intervention from the founder of

00:32:47.260 Iceland, which is, if you're in the States, this is a massive frozen food and cheap supermarket

00:32:54.860 chain all over Britain. And he's complaining that, no, two-tier policing is real, because

00:33:01.260 whenever his staff call about violent people shoplifting from his stores, the police don't

00:33:08.120 respond. But there was an incident in which an Asian worker at the store confronted a black

00:33:16.000 shoplifter the black guy got aggressive called the police and accused the asian person of racism

00:33:23.300 and the police immediately show up and arrest the asian and hold him or her for several hours

00:33:30.640 and what it shows is that actually when the crime matters to the police they show up but they've

00:33:38.460 decided that other crimes don't matter well the peculiar thing about all of this of course is

00:33:43.700 it's a self-fulfilling prophecy the police want to go about across the land you know stretching

00:33:49.540 the resources to police racism and you know knock on your door for any account of it and what they

00:33:55.220 don't realize is that by behaving in that way and showing such partiality towards minority

00:34:01.220 communities they're only actually going to uh cement and you know encourage um racism to ferment

00:34:08.900 and that anti-migrant sentiment to carry on.

00:34:12.400 And they're going to do it in two ways.

00:34:13.960 Because here we see an incident in, I think,

00:34:17.100 I can't remember the area in Birmingham,

00:34:19.640 but a bunch of white guys were sitting in a car.

00:34:23.320 Now, one of them has a bit of a profile,

00:34:25.940 so that's a different story.

00:34:27.660 And I'm not saying what did and what didn't happen,

00:34:30.820 but this Asian gentleman with his girlfriend, 1.00

00:34:34.780 they both, well, he kicks off

00:34:36.420 and starts attacking four people.

00:34:38.900 I won't show you the whole clip, but eventually two Sikh guys intervene.

00:34:48.660 And what he says to them is, you know me.

00:34:51.980 Well, you don't know me personally, but you know what I'm about.

00:34:55.120 They were racist to me.

00:34:57.140 So he immediately manages to plead to ethnic solidarity when the time came.

00:35:03.860 And it seems that the Sikh guys were trying to calm the situation down.

00:35:08.240 whereas the other guy in question no no he was being full-on aggressive and clearly trying to

00:35:15.880 start something against four people and appeal to others of his group to help

00:35:21.160 and then the police show up oh look at this beaut 0.98

00:35:26.740 and you look at this group of officers there's the total black guy the 1.00

00:35:37.320 white lady who looks like a turtle, a small Pakistani, and a soy jack. 0.98

00:35:47.840 And that's the police that show up. And none of them looks in any way 1.00

00:35:52.720 that physically capable. I mean, the two guys, they're big, but one of them completely looks

00:35:59.280 like a like a soy and um it's basically what you would expect these days and you sort of see

00:36:11.460 that there is a massive deterioration in the physical standards of the police

00:36:16.140 now the way they do it they have this weird test for physical fitness and the test for physical

00:36:23.300 so they do still have tests for physical fitness that whole thing i didn't even see

00:36:28.900 i didn't even grab all the details you were talking about there but that whole scene in

00:36:32.980 that car park everything about it just need not have happened again you go back to 1996

00:36:40.200 that just nothing like that would have happened or very very very very rarely extremely rarely

00:36:46.960 none of this was necessary i mean oh but if you want to go back in a football stadium together

00:36:52.260 with their arsenal shirts on the night where you united country yes if you want to go back

00:36:57.360 i would suggest the 80s pre the various strings of black riots that broke out in various cities

00:37:05.020 especially in london and it was then that the police decided that they were going to go on a

00:37:10.480 crusade against standards and racism essentially the race riots of the 80s yes which was really

00:37:18.240 and the brixton ones which was then reinforced with the stephen lawrence case and so on and so

00:37:26.140 forth i mean not to if i made for us as well not to even just mention the fact that isn't it

00:37:30.460 remarkable that in order to combat racism the police had to lower their standards and that

00:37:36.760 those two things just naturally went hand in hand well here you see one of these things so the

00:37:41.520 the training the sort of test for physical fitness for the police involves doing uh five rounds of

00:37:49.460 running uh and in each of them you have to do 15 meter rounds so you do the first bunch of 15

00:37:59.360 meters on a slow pace yeah bleep test yeah 15 meters did you say 15 meters you run just like

00:38:06.600 about four or five strides yes exactly exactly exactly and for the first few you have to average

00:38:12.500 seven seconds whatever and then it sort of goes down and now they're talking about lowering that

00:38:19.380 standard further so the test doesn't involve doing pull-ups it doesn't involve push-ups it doesn't

00:38:24.860 involve genuine physical strength it just involves being able to run around and police

00:38:33.000 representatives are saying this is too high it needs to be lowered further because that's what

00:38:38.400 the scientific evidence says now whenever you see a video of a bunch of female police officers 1.00

00:38:44.160 trying to do anything physical you see that there's a real disaster with physical fitness 0.71

00:38:49.620 especially for women and the argument being made here is that actually it's too hard for women to

00:38:54.400 meet this physical standard then i guess they just won't be able to be part of the police force

00:38:59.100 yes i guess you would think so there's a number of things women small women five foot one i don't 1.00

00:39:06.600 understand how they're in the police man there's a number of things they can do in the police that

00:39:10.400 requires sitting behind a desk somewhere yes not being on the beat not ever being in a situation

00:39:16.780 where they're asked to restrain a desperate man yes i see just one more clip just throw it on 0.86

00:39:23.200 the pilot clips just the other day at the weekend it was four police women women and then one guy

00:39:29.220 shows up right he gets them down right there were four women were trying to restrain one bloke

00:39:34.540 and obviously he's sort of fairly desperate and they just can't do it no they just cannot do it 0.81

00:39:39.060 and it's it's not it's not funny it's not it's sort of beyond pathetic yes it's just the reality 0.94

00:39:46.480 that uh a small woman because quite often you know all that comes down to weight speed aggression

00:39:52.580 and strength if you and if you're just losing across the board on those things

00:39:56.960 maybe best is that you don't ever have to try and restrain a man yes because you're not able to do 0.92

00:40:04.920 it no i mean it's so obvious isn't it so obvious it's like allowing transvestites male transvestites

00:40:10.440 into a woman-only space or something like that it's just it's just so obvious and it's deeply

00:40:15.840 selfish because of course there are dangerous situations there and if you're going into the

00:40:20.960 police and you're just not physically capable of doing the job then because you've taken the

00:40:26.040 position that should rightly have gone to someone stronger even in something terrible can happen as 0.55

00:40:32.300 a result whenever i see it like in swindon sometimes you see two female cops wpcs walking

00:40:36.680 along and they're honestly like five foot nothing honestly and they look like a small child wearing 0.99

00:40:43.180 an adult utility belt and like their their um their stab jackets and their hats don't fit them 1.00

00:40:49.780 they're tiny little women they must weigh 100 110 pounds maybe yeah tiny little things like like 0.82

00:40:55.900 children really the size of a large child and it's just it's i'm annoyed with them as well as 0.99

00:41:02.020 everything else exactly like who do you think you think you're gonna run down and tackle and

00:41:07.260 subdue a normal-sized bloke who's who's desperate to get away what do you think what's going on in

00:41:13.760 your mind yeah oh well they don't really so frustrating and and and all of that stuff and

00:41:21.120 and on equity i mean this is just a freedom of information request reply from the west

00:41:27.580 Yorkshire police and you see here more than a dozen people employed at ridiculous high salaries

00:41:37.800 just burning money in various diversity roles 15 16 people employed in diversity roles

00:41:45.580 and the lowest salary there is 30 000 pounds which is actually unfortunately in modern britain

00:41:56.200 that's the average. Everybody else is well above average, with the highest paid one at £90,000.

00:42:05.320 And you see this list of people and you're wondering, well, what the hell are they doing?

00:42:10.320 And here is what they're doing. They are enforcing the race action plan that is coming from the

00:42:17.720 National Police Chiefs Council, the governing body of the police. And I had the misfortune of looking

00:42:24.280 through this document i couldn't read it properly because a lot of it didn't make any bloody sense

00:42:31.880 but i wanted to pick out a few bits and pieces from this text and what the action points that

00:42:40.760 they have include they want to the the first priority is to basically make sure that the

00:42:48.200 police themselves are reflective of the black community and the whole focus of this document

00:42:54.280 is on the black community,

00:42:55.880 who are 3.5% of the population of Britain. 0.78

00:42:59.800 But for this 3%, this whole document is dedicated,

00:43:03.560 except that it's also the manual

00:43:05.720 for every other racial and ethnic group.

00:43:08.620 And so what do they want?

00:43:10.200 They want to develop officers and staff members'

00:43:14.180 understanding of black history

00:43:16.480 and their relationship between policing

00:43:18.240 and black communities. 1.00

00:43:19.860 This will be mandatory

00:43:21.700 And role and rank specific for all staff.

00:43:25.380 Everybody has to learn about black history and Stephen Lawrence and the race riots.

00:43:31.600 But instead of the rioters being the villains, it's the police who are the villains.

00:43:35.680 If race riots are even mentioned.

00:43:38.260 This will be used to assist with developing a shared local and mutual understanding with black communities. 0.99

00:43:43.820 You'll never achieve it. 1.00

00:43:45.440 Never.

00:43:45.680 The college will work with the National Black Police Officers Association and external partners to co-design a product for inclusion in the national curriculum, including anti-racism training.

00:43:57.400 So that's a subtext for essentially using the Black Police Association as a set of political commissars and distributing patronage to various woke, insane NGOs that insist that everybody and everything is racist. 0.60

00:44:15.680 That's the subtext here. 0.56

00:44:17.600 Create an advisory group within the college

00:44:20.000 with membership from those of black heritage

00:44:22.440 to provide constructive challenge and advice

00:44:27.160 about the development of policies, procedures, and practices,

00:44:30.200 meaning that all new police policies 0.92

00:44:32.720 have to be approved by the blacks. 0.93

00:44:36.480 That's when you actually read what it does 0.93

00:44:39.080 as opposed to what it says.

00:44:40.760 That's what it means.

00:44:42.080 This affirms the college's commitment

00:44:43.940 to becoming anti-racist in all its activities.

00:44:47.120 The college will establish a Black Heritage Advisory Group.

00:44:51.380 They will agree processes for the governance

00:44:53.320 of how programs will engage with the black community.

00:44:56.520 The NPCs in the college will build a periodic review of the process.

00:45:00.580 So you must report to this new elite class of political commissars

00:45:05.320 on everything that you're doing and seek their approval.

00:45:08.340 Develop mentoring and talent management programs

00:45:11.600 as well as an approach for adoption and delivery of those programs these programs will be proactively

00:45:17.260 offered to all black officers and staff so that means that there will be a faster promotion track

00:45:23.940 through mentoring for black staff that's that's if you read what it's going to do as opposed to 0.53

00:45:31.740 the bureaucratic language that's what it means so diversity is simply less whites that's what

00:45:37.920 diversity means the measure of diversity is always how many fewer white men have you included

00:45:43.660 that's the definition of diversity the diversity is defined against white men that's literally how

00:45:52.660 you measure it all those who mentor or coach staff across policing will be required to develop their

00:46:01.140 anti-racism awareness what does that mean if you're mentoring or coaching that means you're

00:46:06.540 at a level of seniority. For you to qualify to that level of seniority, you must have been trained

00:46:13.580 in anti-racism, meaning that if you're not woke, you don't get to be senior. That's precisely what

00:46:20.640 I was told when I was made redundant. Separate story for a different time. We will recommend

00:46:25.320 the Chief Constable's Council adopt annual ethnicity pay gap reporting, meaning that you must 0.99

00:46:33.380 raise the pay for the blacks and for the ethnic minorities to equal or exceed that of the whites

00:46:41.200 if you are white and well paid it is by definition a problem by definition you're failing in these

00:46:49.240 metrics it's funny because i thought already back in even think the 1970s we've already had acts of

00:46:54.720 parliament making it illegal to pay people less on the basis of their race i think i think we've

00:47:00.860 already been through all that haven't we decades and decades ago huh yeah interesting it's funny

00:47:06.560 as well hold on there's there's a lot here and i'm keen to just go through it because if you're not

00:47:13.320 if you think you're angry you're going to get angrier just what i'm going to that's what i'm

00:47:17.560 going to say every black officer and member of staff will be offered access to their local black

00:47:23.580 police association or race equality network what does that mean that means that the police will

00:47:30.120 actively encourage the formation of ethnic blocs within the ranks of the police and as they then

00:47:36.940 work with deeper community engagement through these kinds of ethnic blocs that criminals in

00:47:43.140 the outside community ethnic blocs will have better access to the police officers within them. 0.72

00:47:50.020 So it's a very long-winded way of endorsing crime by ethnic groups. That's what it does in effect. 0.86

00:47:58.200 It doesn't say so on the tin, but just think through what it does.

00:48:02.320 You want more positive community engagement, you want people represented, and you want them to interface with community leaders.

00:48:08.360 And you want to give them also an ethnic block within the police.

00:48:12.100 Put all of these things together, you're getting a direct link from police officers to criminal networks in the community, mediated by community leaders.

00:48:20.040 That's what you're actually achieving with this.

00:48:22.100 develop a nationwide minimum level of support for black officers and staff

00:48:27.200 who are subject to alleged racial victimization alleged is important here

00:48:34.300 because you just have to claim that you've suffered a racism can be anything well we know

00:48:40.380 that don't we of course we know that now we know that now we know that yes uh or racially

00:48:45.580 motivated harassment and hate crime from whatever source meaning the community itself if they're

00:48:51.260 white could be accused of racism and therefore they have to be policed better because they're 0.53

00:48:56.280 being racist to your your black police officers who are encouraged to organize along ethnic lines 0.93

00:49:01.920 in solidarity with their ethnic community this is a thing isn't it if if a black citizen of 0.97

00:49:07.800 in the united kingdom says oh i i don't feel comfortable with the police because of their

00:49:13.600 institutional racism i want to be policed by exclusively black officers the state will pull 0.93

00:49:20.900 out all of the resources will bend over ass backward and say oh yes sir please sir how high 0.95

00:49:26.680 sir but if an englishman were to say i'd like to be policed by englishmen that would be a hate crime

00:49:33.040 and they'd be at your door in a second yep the npcc and the college so that's the national police

00:49:40.460 council the national police chief's council and the college of policing will collect data and

00:49:47.260 scrutinize police staff disciplinary processes to identify disproportionality for black police staff

00:49:55.580 and develop an anti-racist response.

00:49:58.980 What does that mean?

00:49:59.720 It means that if you find that there are higher rates of various failures in procedures,

00:50:08.180 in process, in qualifications, in actions, whatever,

00:50:12.000 if they disproportionately affect blacks or indeed other ethnic minorities, 1.00

00:50:18.440 because all of the other ethnic minorities will use this as a battering ram 0.66

00:50:23.560 to further their own interests, 0.52

00:50:25.500 that then has to be addressed to make sure that it doesn't happen.

00:50:32.020 To make sure that basically the only way to implement this 0.84

00:50:36.120 is to be incredibly severe against whites for any infringement 0.73

00:50:40.460 and incredibly lax against ethnic groups for any infringements. 0.61

00:50:46.900 That's the only way to achieve this equalization in the data.

00:50:50.700 There is no other way to do it.

00:50:53.040 There is really no other way to do it.

00:50:55.380 And isn't that at odds with the very nature of what justice is supposed to be?

00:51:00.100 If I could briefly make some sort of broader meta point.

00:51:03.600 I've said it before on this podcast, I'll say it again.

00:51:05.980 in in the western tradition anyway the personification of justice is a woman holding

00:51:11.640 a scales in one hand i actually being tried a sword in the other a sort of uh punishment

00:51:18.100 and she's blindfolded yes she's blind yes so the idea that you have to add any sort of extra layer

00:51:25.340 of equality you have to have have extra layers of equality quote unquote equality no no the way

00:51:32.960 justice was always done by its nature was blind was supposed to be at least supposedly because 0.99

00:51:37.880 she's blindfolded she's also also colorblind but this is not good enough no right no it needs to 0.99

00:51:42.960 be reverse racism doesn't it exactly just not just zero some game not just net zero racism but

00:51:48.720 reverse racism yep right yep yep well the the entire point isn't it that they're doing all

00:51:53.880 this social engineering because they want to rig the outcomes yes that's precisely that's that's

00:51:59.560 And then they get upset.

00:52:02.100 This is the chiefs of police.

00:52:04.220 They get upset because the statistics of England and Wales

00:52:07.740 show that the use of our powers on black people,

00:52:11.820 that we use our powers on black people disproportionately, 0.87

00:52:16.340 often compared to white people. 0.98

00:52:18.880 Last year, we stopped and searched black people

00:52:21.040 at a rate that was seven times higher than it was for white people. 0.96

00:52:24.580 That is also how much higher the crime rate is.

00:52:27.960 yes separate conversation the rate at which we use force was five times higher for people we

00:52:33.940 perceive to be black yes because there is a higher incidence of use of drugs and of resisting arrest

00:52:40.400 and so on and so forth we discharged or drew taser on black people at a rate that was six times higher

00:52:46.240 looking at this data in a different way 10 of our recorded searches 27 of use of force incidents

00:52:53.100 and 35% of taser incidents

00:52:55.400 involve someone from a black ethnic group.

00:52:57.920 The latest estimates suggest

00:52:59.200 that only 3.5% of the population is black. 1.00

00:53:02.740 Per capita, motherfuckers. 1.00

00:53:06.980 The problem is per capita crime rate, 1.00

00:53:10.120 not your racism.

00:53:12.460 And until you get that through your thick heads,

00:53:15.620 you're not going to achieve anything.

00:53:17.980 It goes on and on,

00:53:19.800 and it's all like this. 0.98

00:53:21.660 all of it is like this it's this insane centeredness on blacks used as a battering ram by 0.96

00:53:30.380 other ethnic groups in order to lower standards and hold whites to one standards and everybody 0.91

00:53:36.740 else to another thereby endangering thereby endangering everybody in the community including 0.91

00:53:42.180 blacks yes including black people and it's mad and then there's this other document that i briefly 0.90

00:53:50.740 want to look at i know i'm short on time no no you're not it's fine it's really okay take your 0.99

00:53:55.680 time but this is the vision for 2030 for the police by the college of policing i bet i hate

00:54:02.060 by the national police chief's council and the association of police and crime commissioners so

00:54:08.820 this is everybody who's anybody in the policing community in britain they got together they came

00:54:14.520 up with a vision for policing in 2030 okay now what are their pillars to keep our communities

00:54:24.100 safe the language itself is a dead giveaway not to keep the public safe no to keep our communities

00:54:31.760 safe from perception amongst other things exactly so from the outset they're starting with this

00:54:39.400 woke nonsensical language suggesting that everybody that was involved in drafting this

00:54:44.580 document should be exiled to a scottish island and left there to repent that's just my proposal

00:54:51.440 you don't have to take it objective one identify and safeguard more of the most vulnerable

00:54:59.160 wrong language wrong language i mean the objective one is people people in care homes no no no the

00:55:06.600 People who are vulnerable, according to critical race theory.

00:55:11.100 Objective one should be find as many criminals as possible and bury them under the jail. 0.63

00:55:16.460 Yeah. 0.54

00:55:17.000 That's what your objective should be.

00:55:19.640 Objective one.

00:55:20.480 Get in the back of the van.

00:55:22.080 Exactly.

00:55:23.000 Exactly.

00:55:23.960 Objective two, reduce serious violence, including violence, including against women and girls. 0.88

00:55:29.260 Does that mean you're going to address the Pakistani gangs? 0.79

00:55:32.040 no because that would be targeting a vulnerable community by virtue of their race different story

00:55:39.260 support victims better fair enough accountability meaningful respectful and effective public

00:55:45.640 engagement this is basically pr with ethnic groups that that's what this is about ensure that the

00:55:51.780 police is seen as inclusive fair and anti-racist with a zero tolerance approach to all forms of

00:55:56.400 discrimination so basically in the first pillar of what they're trying to achieve 0.97

00:56:01.400 pretty much four out of the five objectives are focused on woke bullshit

00:56:08.000 right and the whole thing uses the language of of wokeness 0.54

00:56:14.820 well and also as well we just know from numerous examples obviously in particular the

00:56:21.840 recent murder of novak towards the end of last year as well that this is a experience that

00:56:29.880 everyone sees because it's always reported on you all that people can see the unfairness in the

00:56:36.240 system and the odd thing about that of course is that the one community that was genuinely happy

00:56:44.360 to be policed by consent in england was the english we're now we have now traded them yes

00:56:51.640 in lieu of trying to pander to the minority communities so that basically the english are

00:56:56.580 going to arrive in a position where they no longer um consent to be policed yep but by the

00:57:03.060 organization because they know that the system's rigged against them exactly so the second pillar

00:57:08.540 is to prevent crime and criminality admirable objective how are they going to do it collaborate

00:57:14.680 more across policing and with local authorities businesses and the voluntary community so the

00:57:19.940 implication here is that crime is a socio-economic phenomenon not that some people are criminals and

00:57:25.760 must be punished for the sake of justice the implication here is soaked in woke nonsense

00:57:33.820 and that's their starting point.

00:57:36.240 And the second objective is

00:57:38.500 drive forward a public health approach to prevent crime.

00:57:43.380 I'm sorry, what?

00:57:44.720 What does that mean exactly? 1.00

00:57:46.460 Crime isn't a virus, you moron. 1.00

00:57:50.700 That actually doesn't really make much sense. 1.00

00:57:53.260 It doesn't make any sense.

00:57:54.520 Public health approach.

00:57:56.120 And what they want is more collaboration and partnership working

00:57:59.320 to prevent crime and criminalization.

00:58:00.760 That makes no sense.

00:58:01.960 respond effectively to all appropriate demand

00:58:05.820 and bring perpetrators to justice

00:58:07.380 continue to anticipate and adapt

00:58:10.160 to the changing nature of crime and criminality

00:58:11.920 does that mean actually using

00:58:14.020 per capita crime data?

00:58:15.840 absolutely never

00:58:16.640 no

00:58:17.220 because objective two

00:58:18.860 address more hate crime

00:58:21.260 well that will calm everything right down

00:58:24.880 giving themselves a quota of hate crime

00:58:27.740 however much there is

00:58:29.560 find more of it

00:58:31.960 address more of it.

00:58:36.820 And on and on it goes.

00:58:38.540 It's perverse, isn't it?

00:58:39.700 Completely.

00:58:40.780 But what's very obvious is that the whole leadership

00:58:44.000 isn't fit for being in their roles.

00:58:48.020 Anybody who put their names to this document,

00:58:50.820 who said this is a good idea,

00:58:53.260 should not be in policing.

00:58:56.040 You have one objective,

00:58:58.020 find the criminals, put them under the jail,

00:59:00.980 end of discussion.

00:59:01.960 Yeah. That's it. To the extent that you want prevention, you want to be visible in the

00:59:09.040 communities that are most likely to commit crime with criminals knowing that you will be stopping

00:59:14.420 them if you suspect them of misdeeds. That's what you need to do. Everything else is just

00:59:20.440 sick social engineering. And as that's a random name correctly points out, multiculturalism, 1.00

00:59:27.140 which is what this document is all about is literally just forcibly rolling back millennia

00:59:32.500 of sociocultural development so that we don't offend people whose ancestors never left the stone

00:59:37.960 age i couldn't have put it better myself there's that old if you've seen the 80s film robocop the

00:59:46.940 first robocop yes in that if someone said okay you're so smart you tell us how to police what

00:59:52.940 policing should be i would say the way the detroit police department and ocp run it in in robocop

00:59:59.700 one that's pretty good serve the public trust protect the innocent uphold the law just that

01:00:03.920 just that it is that it's pretty simple it is that simple but they insist on pretending that

01:00:10.580 it isn't and the worst part is that they're failing at everything and if you look at crime

01:00:18.940 outcomes they are barely solving 10 percent of the most serious crimes barely if you get your

01:00:27.080 car if you get your car stolen or your phone stolen or your house burgled you get nothing

01:00:30.660 absolutely you get nothing absolutely nothing they give you a reference number which doesn't

01:00:34.360 mean anything the most serious crime obviously being gun crime only 12 percent closed with a

01:00:41.660 charge or a summons that means 88 percent of gun crime in britain is just gets nowhere

01:00:49.340 as far as the police which encourages more of it because we've a likely chance to get away with it

01:00:55.040 yep yep yep yep exactly knife crime only 11.5 percent that means that all the rest wasn't

01:01:04.000 touched oh this is why they go for the hate crime category yeah easier to police yeah yeah for some

01:01:10.980 categories just 4.6 percent of crimes end with a charge or a summons 95.4 percent does not

01:01:20.000 sick joke so they're utterly failing but they're doubling down on the ideology

01:01:25.760 i mean take a look around man all the cops are into something it's christmas you could steal

01:01:32.120 city hall anyway moving on to the next segment okay a couple of uh that's a random name they

01:01:45.540 will never forgive us for uplifting them yeah yeah yeah yeah and then there's one that's too

01:01:53.320 spicy so we can skip that yes and we can now move to both segments all right let me just get my oh

01:01:59.000 let samson do the thing he's done the thing okay let me just move down to my notes one second here

01:02:05.920 all right

01:02:07.500 gentlemen i thought we should touch base with everything that's going on with

01:02:15.080 the war in persia yeah the persian gulf everything that's going on there because i don't think we've

01:02:21.580 done a segment on low seaters for a little bit uh all sorts of events going on over the weekend

01:02:26.300 basically and uh some of it in lebanon so i thought it'd be great to get some of your takes

01:02:31.260 on some of these things ferris um so okay what's happened such every weekend the ceasefire which

01:02:38.200 has been very shaky the whole time there has been a ceasefire in inverted commas if you if at any

01:02:43.780 point you really could have called it a ceasefire really now it's over no one's really buying it

01:02:50.140 When Hegseth, Rubio and Trump are saying

01:02:53.660 Give us a couple more days

01:02:54.840 Okay, we've fired off some ordnance in self-defence

01:02:59.460 But there's still a ceasefire

01:03:00.560 There's no ceasefire

01:03:01.980 There's no ceasefire

01:03:03.380 There you go, the first link I've got here

01:03:06.460 Iran releases footage of missiles launched to Israel

01:03:09.580 So, okay, over the weekend

01:03:11.600 Israel's incursion into Lebanon 0.51

01:03:14.500 Has been going further and further

01:03:16.180 Until Hezbollah decided to shoot off some rockets into northern Israel

01:03:19.480 Israel fired back blowing up some buildings in Beirut itself

01:03:24.760 And Iran retaliated on the strength of that

01:03:29.480 Firing missiles at least four waves of missiles into Israel

01:03:32.560 Apparently they were all shot down

01:03:33.900 Then Israel was retaliated to that 0.56

01:03:37.000 By all sorts of fast jet sorties into western and central Iran

01:03:41.080 So it doesn't really matter what Trump's saying anymore

01:03:45.460 They're just going at it again

01:03:47.920 so okay we won't bother watching that video yes but yes okay look there you go israel and iran 0.76

01:03:54.560 exchanged strikes for first time since april ceasefire there's some some jewish people with 0.81

01:04:00.660 a massive iranian i guess that's a dud i suppose no that would have been the tail end of the missile

01:04:06.240 oh right the warhead itself flew on and did something else that's just somewhere else that's

01:04:10.160 just the delivery system yes okay so it's interesting is it how often you see images

01:04:16.160 along this line with some sort of i mean it's not funny i mean i don't know why i'm sort of

01:04:20.780 laughing about it it's not funny but uh images like this where something sort of you don't laugh

01:04:25.480 you cry it almost looks like something out of a film set um you would have thought these things

01:04:30.560 might be annihilated on impact but they're not just dug in the ground like that almost like a

01:04:34.600 cartoon okay all right trump demands israel and iran immediately stop shooting as fresh strikes

01:04:41.900 imperial ceasefire what ceasefire sorry what ceasefire i mean they've been fighting in the

01:04:48.900 gulf itself um the the the iranians in the united states over who controls access to the shipping

01:04:55.980 lanes the americans haven't been succeeding but it's obvious that trump is trying his best not to

01:05:02.420 escalate and i give you credit for that yeah actually before anyone goes crazy in the comments

01:05:07.960 about i'm suffering from tds or whatever no no no yeah broadly speaking broadly speaking i'm on the

01:05:13.480 u.s side like that regime in iran is terrible if i could remove it by the click of fingers of course

01:05:19.480 i would of course i would i'm not for uh fundamentalist shia theocracies no let's get

01:05:27.000 that clear but we'll criticize america if if i think it's mishandling mismanaging this thing

01:05:33.000 and i feel like we're in the territory now where that is what's going on is that trump's trying to

01:05:39.400 make a deal and again credit for that credit for that trying to make it not a forever war good good

01:05:44.760 that'd be nice wouldn't it yeah yeah um but iran are just not playing ball they're not doing what

01:05:49.800 the white house or the state department want or the pentagon want and now nor is israel if they

01:05:55.720 ever did yeah um so you're talking about imperiling the ceasefire like trump rang up bibi like more

01:06:04.440 than a week ago maybe more like two weeks ago well a well-documented phone call that they had

01:06:10.520 where apparently trump was really quite angry at netanyahu he called him effing crazy that was one

01:06:15.720 of the quotes he said it's extremely difficult to defend israel anymore yes quote everyone

01:06:20.600 roughly paraphrasing but everyone in the united states hates israel now all those sorts of things

01:06:25.720 you, Netanyahu, are playing this poorly.

01:06:29.960 You need to start falling in line with what we in the State Department

01:06:32.780 need you to do in order for us to get out of this thing

01:06:36.380 and you're not doing it, fall in line.

01:06:39.420 Netanyahu's not doing that.

01:06:42.280 Yeah.

01:06:43.180 It's just not doing that.

01:06:43.960 Well, this comes after, this all comes after the first attack.

01:06:47.240 My chronology obviously won't be as well versed as yours is, Firas,

01:06:50.300 but when there was the 12 Days War and everything as well

01:06:54.200 and it's oh we've destroyed their uh missile making capabilities and everything and it's like

01:06:59.140 well israel hadn't got what they wanted that time and so we take another stab at it and now we find 0.77

01:07:05.200 ourselves here many months later basically you can't win against iran unless you actually nuke

01:07:12.300 their underground missile bases and their nuclear program itself but when you cross that line 0.90

01:07:18.620 all bets are off right you're you're saying to the chinese and to the russians

01:07:23.080 you can do this too yeah and to the indians and the pakistanis which is you know i mean if they

01:07:29.740 wanted to change the regime sort of iraq 2003 saddam style of sending in divisions whole divisions of

01:07:39.860 sort of armored units and the whole nine yards and actually again whole divisions of u.s uh marines

01:07:47.880 and the army going to Tehran

01:07:49.960 and occupying the government buildings.

01:07:53.980 I hope this isn't the case,

01:07:55.780 but I feel like short of that,

01:07:56.960 this regime isn't going to crumble.

01:07:58.620 Correct. Correct.

01:08:01.200 And that's not even achievable against Iran 0.98

01:08:04.080 because you have nowhere 0.92

01:08:05.040 where you can build up the ground forces.

01:08:07.860 What Iraq didn't have, basically,

01:08:11.180 was the ability to disrupt

01:08:12.640 the buildup of ground forces. 1.00

01:08:15.040 The Iranians... 0.97

01:08:15.640 In 2003. 0.99

01:08:16.540 In 2003.

01:08:17.160 In Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

01:08:18.940 Exactly.

01:08:19.420 Right.

01:08:19.700 And in 1990, they didn't have the ability to just prevent that massing.

01:08:24.080 But by controlling Hormuz and Bab el-Mendab and having a huge army in Yemen that's willing to invade Saudi Arabia,

01:08:31.420 they can disrupt any ground force buildup.

01:08:34.560 So that's not even a realistic option here.

01:08:36.580 The Houthis were firing off stuff as well.

01:08:38.560 Apparently the Houthis fired a long-range missile into Israel.

01:08:42.200 And apparently into Saudi.

01:08:43.860 Right.

01:08:44.580 Okay.

01:08:44.940 I mean, this news story, Lebanon-Israel ceasefire deal made in hope rather than expectation.

01:08:50.960 So there's supposed to be some sort of ceasefire between Hezbollah and Israel,

01:08:55.540 which was part of the grander hope for a deal between the US and Iran.

01:09:02.900 But that's just not holding. It's just not happening.

01:09:06.720 Because the Israelis are doing everything they can to thwart it. 0.97

01:09:11.580 The way that they want to cease... 0.83

01:09:12.880 Has Hezbollah got some responsibility, though?

01:09:15.540 Apparently they were firing themselves into Israel at the weekend. 0.84

01:09:19.100 The way that they're trying to...

01:09:20.120 Is it not both sides just sort of refusing?

01:09:22.180 Let me give you all the facts and you draw the conclusion.

01:09:25.540 The way that they're trying to configure the ceasefire

01:09:27.840 is that Hezbollah is dismantled and withdraws.

01:09:31.560 And that assumes that Lebanon is a state.

01:09:33.980 But Hezbollah is not a Lebanese military force.

01:09:36.720 It's a Shia military force.

01:09:38.500 A paramilitary.

01:09:40.120 A paramilitary force.

01:09:41.000 Yeah.

01:09:41.260 And it will never obey the Lebanese state. 0.79

01:09:44.020 That won't happen.

01:09:46.040 And they're trying to say that in the interim, the Israelis have freedom of action, 0.65

01:09:51.780 but Hezbollah does not get to attack.

01:09:54.720 Hezbollah does not get to retaliate.

01:09:57.420 And so what they're trying to impose is a one-sided ceasefire 0.78

01:10:00.300 where Hezbollah stops attacking and dismantles, and the Israelis totally win. 0.74

01:10:05.300 They're trying to impose a surrender on it, 0.60

01:10:08.040 and Hezbollah is trying to make sure that that doesn't happen

01:10:10.400 because it doesn't want to surrender right that's what it is straightforward and i don't think any

01:10:16.220 of that analysis is pro hezbollah certainly not pro israel is it so yeah yeah for anyone who

01:10:22.220 doesn't know for us is lebanese but you're a catholic yes right so yes so it's it's not just

01:10:28.340 absolutely not in any way shape or form i don't want a shia military force or a semi-military

01:10:34.560 force governing what i want to be a christian lebanon i don't i don't like any of these guys

01:10:40.960 shouldn't have to state that but we kind of do i suppose but okay good right so so the idea of

01:10:46.880 having a ceasefire that completely holds between hezbollah and israel at this point in time anyway

01:10:51.540 that's just again just doesn't seem realistic i'm trying to be sort of trying to do a bit of value

01:10:57.100 free analysis here not trying to play a defense or offense for israel or hezbollah just it seems

01:11:03.380 to me as an outsider looking in they're not going to stop attacking each other anytime soon and so

01:11:10.060 if the wider peace between Iran and Israel therefore Iran and the US if it is dependent on

01:11:16.740 that then again you're a bit of a sticky wicket aren't you and it's a little bit of an impasse

01:11:21.040 again is it not and it's certainly not going to calm down when it seems with each passing month

01:11:26.660 like the Americans have far and far less command over the situation on the ground?

01:11:34.680 Well, there's a number of things, isn't it? It's not just the war between Israel and Hezbollah in

01:11:40.640 Lebanon. It's also the Straits of Hormuz, isn't it? And also probably perhaps the most contentious

01:11:46.040 thing between the two sides, diplomatically, politically speaking, is Iran's nuclear program.

01:11:52.660 and and it seems that they just simply will not budge on that it's a red line in the sand for

01:11:59.140 the americans and the israelis that you have to give up your stockpile of highly enriched uranium

01:12:03.340 and any ability to ever enrich it again and iran just simply refusing that that's their red line

01:12:11.240 in the sand as well yes so again that's an impasse then isn't it yes yes so then in the ball is in

01:12:16.820 america's cult effectively at that point are you going to go in there 2003 saddam style and take

01:12:23.060 them out for real on the ground 100 physically well if you're not then that you will never get 0.68

01:12:29.040 past that impasse will you it's not just that it's that the lesson from gaddafi and saddam 0.63

01:12:34.460 and north korea is that you're better off with a nuclear option what letting iran have a nuclear

01:12:40.460 no no the iranians believe that they're better off with a nuclear option okay right of course

01:12:44.240 And now that they've been attacked, it sort of cements that. 0.52

01:12:49.360 I mean, you kill the supreme leader, you try to wipe out the leadership, 0.93

01:12:53.600 and you try to force regime change, and you try to send Kurdish militias

01:12:56.840 to go into Iran and partition it, essentially,

01:13:00.520 which was the plan when the war started, 0.62

01:13:03.420 and that becomes existential.

01:13:05.520 And what's the answer to an existential threat?

01:13:07.600 Weapons of mass destruction.

01:13:09.260 So the logic for a deal isn't there.

01:13:14.240 yeah right okay yeah yeah yeah the thing about is interesting they mentioned that the the kurds

01:13:19.920 kurdish militias and things there was a period i think during the first week or maybe the second

01:13:24.720 or third week something like that where there was talking the mainstream media and there was noises

01:13:29.760 coming out of the pentagon maybe even the intelligence services the cia maybe the state

01:13:33.920 department talk about whether they're like kurdish ethnically kurdish people much more in the north

01:13:40.640 Western North starting to do things to try and topple the regime and America

01:13:46.100 seemed to the United States seemed to absolutely pour cold water on that I mean

01:13:50.700 Trump himself said oh I don't know about that I don't think that's a good idea so

01:13:53.540 the story that's come out now is that a that was the plan right be we know for a

01:13:59.600 fact that there are training camps for these groups in northern Iraq which is

01:14:03.380 an American protectorate and see it seems that the people who said absolutely

01:14:08.180 not were the Turks. Okay. Because for them having another Kurdish enclave in Syria and in Iraq and

01:14:17.160 now in Iran, that is the nightmare scenario for Turkey. And so they would have said, don't you 0.99

01:14:24.060 even dare. And the reporting, I think it was from the Wall Street Journal, is that that's exactly

01:14:28.120 what they said. Well, they put enough pressure on the United States to make them change their war

01:14:32.040 game mid game that's what the reporting is but then the physical reality when the war started

01:14:38.740 the iranians just rained fire into northern iraq they massacred these militias and so was it

01:14:46.980 because the turks said no or was it because the iranians attacked so hard that they stopped it in

01:14:50.960 its tracks good question yeah you know you can't really see the wood for the trees at this point

01:14:55.880 can we i think maybe that's one of those things someone has to write a book 10 years from now

01:14:59.580 to get the real story on these sorts of things i don't know but okay so here's a here's a headline

01:15:04.220 trump tells axios news uh that he will ask netanyahu not to strike back in iran this was

01:15:09.260 over the weekend at the window in the window of time when iran had fired for apparently four

01:15:14.820 waves of missiles into israel that apparently all shot down at that point apparently trump was

01:15:19.980 literally giving an interview when that news broke and apparently he said i'm gonna i'm gonna

01:15:25.560 call up netty right now and tell him not to respond to that which apparently he did and well

01:15:32.520 netty just blanked that ignored that and just fired back anyway so trump is sort of again don't

01:15:41.220 take this as tds it's just what's happening it's just the facts reality isn't it that trump's

01:15:44.960 failing to politically diplomatically dominate iran and now israel yeah okay okay but the

01:15:55.400 difference is he's paying for israel's defense he's not paying for iran's defense and we were

01:16:01.240 told weren't we that their missile capabilities were massively depleted it just doesn't seem to

01:16:07.940 be the case i mean maybe they're they're running on fumes and that was their last few i would

01:16:14.740 expect that's not the case though if you're running on fumes do you fire missiles in defense of

01:16:19.080 level or defense of hezbollah to be precise probably not and iran also said over the weekend

01:16:23.880 that now it's back on they've basically just said there's no ceasefire it's back on and all

01:16:29.080 the u.s bases in the region whether it's in kuwait or qatar or whatever or the uae that's all back on 0.55

01:16:33.580 the table now for us to fire missiles and drones at um so okay okay trump has failed to stop netanyahu

01:16:44.200 once again showing who really calls the shots writes the independent

01:16:48.240 is it wrong is that wrong no they're just anti-semitic okay right yeah well

01:16:55.600 all right who's this the male the male group new details emerge from phone call between trump and

01:17:02.320 netanyahu that the the trump's trying to last week's one right yeah there's about a week ago

01:17:06.920 yeah um but i mean yeah it's a little bit out of date but still the the dynamic is what i'm

01:17:12.460 talking about here the dynamic is the same is that trump's saying look we need you to do xyz

01:17:17.060 and netanyahu just because we're paying you five billion dollars a year doing all of your air

01:17:23.620 defense providing all of your equipment all of your ammunition etc etc therefore you must do xyz

01:17:29.520 and the answer is yeah i'll take your money but i'll ignore you because i suppose he feels that

01:17:36.000 there is no scenario there's no red line in which the americans actually rescind that money to them

01:17:41.940 because of the influence over congress because we just saw with thomas massey yes of course what

01:17:47.020 can be done if we disagree well it's operation apac fury isn't it

01:17:51.980 or epstein fury make your pick okay here's another headline from is it the mail again

01:17:59.040 trump and netanyahu argued about each other's social media posts new details emerged fiery

01:18:05.240 phone call where donald warned it's getting harder to defend israel's actions i think this is from

01:18:11.380 a few a few days ago a week ago or so but still it's what it's worth reporting i mean it just

01:18:16.720 gives the you the measure of i feel like i do feel like the the mismanagement from from the

01:18:24.680 united states where it's descended to this aren't they supposed to 100 be on the same page

01:18:31.740 in lockstep in everything they're doing strategically uh and they're arguing with

01:18:37.660 each other about each other's social media posts not great not great okay i mean you can imagine

01:18:44.540 the people in iran what's left of their leadership um sort of rubbing their hands together one on

01:18:51.180 on the strength of that that sort of news

01:18:53.100 okay donald trump breaks silence as he issues message to israel and tehran he's basically

01:19:01.700 basically saying even just in an hour or so before we started recording this trump going on truth

01:19:06.600 social saying oh is both israel and iran are desperate to make a deal give us a little bit

01:19:11.620 more time we're going to make a deal i feel like it's living like it's just not really very

01:19:16.980 believable anymore anymore all that sort of thing no well and so long as it continues just the threat

01:19:24.220 um the image of american power just wilts exactly every day yeah there's this scene in um in rome

01:19:32.220 where basically the two lead characters disobey Caesar

01:19:36.100 and he says, you've disobeyed me,

01:19:38.120 but if I punish you now, I look weak,

01:19:39.700 so I have to reward you.

01:19:40.880 Oh, in HBO's Rome?

01:19:42.000 Yes.

01:19:42.300 Yeah, yeah, I disagree.

01:19:44.040 Which is sort of where Trump is now.

01:19:47.200 The Financial Times reporting,

01:19:48.620 Trump says Netanyahu will have no, quote,

01:19:50.760 no choice but to accept a deal with Iran.

01:19:53.100 Will they?

01:19:53.900 Why are you saying that?

01:19:55.020 Where does that come from?

01:19:55.960 That's not really very believable, is it?

01:19:59.180 Not based on precedent.

01:20:01.260 No.

01:20:01.600 like he i'm afraid trump just does not control netanyahu does he more importantly he doesn't

01:20:07.840 control congress even though it's republican majority and if you remember the 2016 deal

01:20:13.280 obama signs that we're going to remove these sanctions and then what does

01:20:17.060 congress do it reimposes the exact same sanctions to thwart the deal

01:20:21.600 and then trump comes in and actually fully withdraws from it so

01:20:27.280 trump was saying on truth social that um he wants to get everyone back around the table

01:20:34.300 and that this recent wave of striking each other directly from israel to iran

01:20:39.780 isn't going to help negotiations what negotiations are you talking about now bro

01:20:46.760 am i missing something profound am i missing something big here

01:20:51.920 no what negotiations are you talking about there is an ideal world where a nationalist

01:20:57.020 iran can be sort of directed against the sunni world and ignore israel but this isn't happening

01:21:09.260 i mean okay i was going to make a couple other sort of data points but um

01:21:13.500 the point is it's sort of it's you know we're 100 days in now or so um if they did have any sort of

01:21:21.180 firm plan with um if if they have had a real real solid firm plan going into this it seems to have

01:21:29.820 gone off the rails am i stating the obvious there i think so okay that's where we are in this ongoing

01:21:36.060 saga all right ah funk well made all right so what we've got a couple of super chats if we

01:21:46.220 few super chats what have we got heretican says restore is england's last chance for a political

01:21:53.100 and mostly peaceful way out of this if we if we miss that chance we know where that will inevitably

01:21:59.020 lead also question for for us are you a maronite no i was born druze and converted to catholicism

01:22:06.940 under the latin rite the classic roman catholicism vanilla have you been to rome instantly

01:22:15.020 have you ever visited yes yeah it was a big part of deciding to convert oh really oh really well

01:22:19.820 you went to st peter's not just that it's that when you go to the cathedrals and the various

01:22:25.900 churches you see the part of the nature of the political competition between the italian families

01:22:31.660 was over who could build the most beautiful thing in the church yeah yeah yeah and when i saw that

01:22:37.900 i'm like the fact so john lateral or something yes yes so that you know italian politics is nasty

01:22:45.340 and always has been don't get me wrong but just the ability to channel politics in that direction

01:22:51.420 into an arms race of beauty and art it that psychologically broke me that i was like okay

01:22:59.260 whatever this is i wanted there's a great uh there's a great art history set of documentaries

01:23:07.100 by the lord kenneth clark just called civilization there's one particular episode in that i'm sure

01:23:11.820 you would love then where he talks about the renaissance here of rome and he says you don't

01:23:16.700 have to be catholic you don't even have to be christian but anyone with any ounce of sort of

01:23:21.500 artistic sensibility cannot help but be moved by renaissance rome yes yes um okay quick other two

01:23:28.780 then before we do these uh that's a random name says uh for us is just as british as you or i a

01:23:34.140 bigot winning for us for the win uh jonas hoogan boom says uncle boski looking good

01:23:47.820 yeah is that the uh pimp suit that's all right sorry pink i don't know that's um yeah that's

01:23:54.300 what yeah i said i think oh i was talking about the shirt yeah yeah maroon um okay and last one

01:24:01.500 on here jc warlock says uh you ever hear that thing apparently albert pike said in the 1800s

01:24:07.200 that israel islam would would mutually destroy each other leaving the west disillusioned by

01:24:13.760 christianity accepting luciferian doctrine i'm not familiar with this yeah i've never heard of

01:24:21.980 that, I'm afraid. Okay, I'm sorry. It's one of those things.

01:24:25.400 Alright, let's give you a comment.

01:24:26.520 Okay.

01:24:30.580 It plays something.

01:24:32.140 It seems comical how black and white the Floyd and Novak cases are. Floyd was a drug

01:24:36.020 abuser and violent robber who ultimately killed himself by overdosing. He is a saint in the 0.65

01:24:40.400 eyes of the left. Novak was, by all accounts, a decent man who was going into higher education

01:24:44.160 to study accountancy and finance. He was murdered, but he is filth in the eyes of the left. The

01:24:49.700 state suffers not from an absence of morality, but from

01:24:51.720 a total inversion of it. Villains are victims

01:24:53.680 and victims villains. Ancient Greek 0.91

01:24:55.680 for sin is amatia, which means

01:24:57.460 to miss mark. In the liberal conception,

01:24:59.740 it would mean to hit the mark.

01:25:02.140 It's a valid point, yeah, as I said

01:25:03.940 earlier, I think in your segment for us, it's not just

01:25:05.780 trying to reduce

01:25:07.560 racism or injustice to a

01:25:09.720 net zero. No, it's an inversion

01:25:12.040 of it. An actual inversion of it.

01:25:13.960 Yeah, quite right. And this is

01:25:15.800 why, just every single time, I mean,

01:25:17.700 and Floyd's obviously the most infamous example,

01:25:20.420 but why every time the left find a martyr,

01:25:23.900 they're invariably someone of the worst character.

01:25:26.520 Because it's not about the individual,

01:25:28.980 it's about protecting the optics of the community.

01:25:35.100 Mecha Monday.

01:25:37.100 Well, Friday was another depressing podcast.

01:25:40.340 So to offset that, here is my minion, Mech in Progress.

01:25:43.580 This is actually going to be the six-legged base for my mech.

01:25:46.180 This uses a winch motor to spin the minion head via computer control, and eventually the mech's torso.

01:25:52.180 You know, when you build things, sometimes something goes wrong.

01:25:56.180 But you learn from the experience, so it doesn't happen again.

01:26:02.180 This gentleman's building a mech warrior.

01:26:05.180 He's built a bazillion...

01:26:07.180 Yeah.

01:26:08.180 I know, he's got...

01:26:09.180 I want to visit him with my son.

01:26:11.180 Enough to insight on Cybertron.

01:26:13.180 know get him to teach us how to do this kind of stuff it's it's so cool yeah i've got a lot of

01:26:17.900 respect for people that can build stuff like with their bare hands i'm just i'm pretty crap with

01:26:22.780 that sort of stuff anything beyond lego or meccano absolutely i do a bit of meccano but um real life

01:26:28.620 stuff full scale yeah i mean even when i just use like um like a small spanner or a screwdriver i

01:26:34.140 feel like like a manly chad so i have an entire workshop or a garage of tools and things to to

01:26:40.300 meek with yeah it's uh must be a great feeling. Hey low seaters I was campaigning today in

01:26:46.220 Makerfield with Lewis Brackball the response seemed quite all right actually there were no

01:26:50.700 doors slammed in my face or anything at all the conversations were quite polite there were some

01:26:54.700 people who were responsive and some not and that's all right but right now I'm in Wigan

01:27:00.140 and this is the real Wigan pier it's uh yeah very short but it was only meant for coal to be taken

01:27:07.500 onto the canal boats and I guess this means this is the actual road to Wigan Pier

01:27:12.880 how about that which is a George Orwell book if anyone doesn't know what he's referencing there

01:27:18.700 and in fact me I think it was me and Carl it's certainly me I think it was Carl we did a whole

01:27:24.020 review of that or maybe it was with Josh O'Connor but I can't remember yeah we did a whole review

01:27:28.200 of that if you go back on lotusetis.com you can find it long form bit of content breaking down

01:27:33.160 george orwell's road to wigan pier which is good a good bit of content a really even dare i say

01:27:38.760 an important bit of sort of content there definitely um any more sums yep go on then

01:27:47.160 so following up again on our little video series here about being here at the long

01:27:51.960 range of constant association here's what we call the pride flag right in front of us

01:27:57.480 here's our association flag

01:28:00.720 over here

01:28:02.900 is our POW MIA

01:28:05.140 memorial set up

01:28:07.380 another white pill moment

01:28:11.260 that's poignant isn't it

01:28:14.620 yeah

01:28:14.980 well I hope you have a good day up there

01:28:18.180 like the classy equivalent of pouring out

01:28:20.780 a draft of liquor for one of your lost homies 0.97

01:28:23.160 yes 0.96

01:28:23.620 getting out the cognac

01:28:26.240 yeah the yam so yeah question for your web team as well um is the app making a comeback or is it

01:28:33.900 dead dead never to be resurrected cheers good question i didn't know there's any problem with

01:28:39.600 it i assumed it was always up and running there was no issue samson do you know anything about

01:28:42.900 that no oh well i'll have a word yeah we'll get back to what was announced for that one binary

01:28:51.220 A significant policy change just happened here in British Columbia.

01:28:55.640 To start, the average price of a house here is over $1.5 million

01:28:58.700 against an average income of about $65,000, a tax rate of 40%,

01:29:02.860 and the highest cost of living in the entire world.

01:29:05.180 On top of that, there's a property tax, which is a function of the value of the house.

01:29:08.240 Now, luckily, if you're a senior, you can actually opt into deferring

01:29:10.820 paying this income tax at a 2% interest rate,

01:29:12.860 but they recently doubled the interest rate to 4%, compounding,

01:29:15.860 and didn't really announce it.

01:29:17.040 The only way for the average person to get on the housing ladder is through inheritance,

01:29:20.100 But most people will now be totally unaware that when their parents die,

01:29:23.280 they're going to be stiff for a five to six figure extortion just to keep what's already rightfully theirs.

01:29:29.560 Sorry, every single time you post these videos, I'm not focusing on the worst because I'm absolutely fixated.

01:29:35.940 I'm just watching the roller coaster in front of me.

01:29:39.400 That list of stats you read out there was terrible though, wasn't it?

01:29:42.940 It's not much better here, but that's...

01:29:45.820 Yeah, that's the long and short of it.

01:29:47.140 They're trying to make you bankrupt, aren't they?

01:29:51.220 They're trying to.

01:29:53.720 All right, well, I've reached a half past,

01:29:58.020 so I'll just read one or two from mine,

01:29:59.860 which was Michael de Belba says,

01:30:02.120 Sunak was just an attempt by the Tories

01:30:04.060 to demonstrate that they weren't racist.

01:30:06.700 I mean, it's part of it.

01:30:08.160 There's certainly, you know,

01:30:09.500 it seems to be most of the reason behind Kemi. 0.57

01:30:13.000 That's a random name says,

01:30:14.520 being English means apologising 0.99

01:30:16.660 for getting stabbed for being white 1.00

01:30:18.420 star male traitor. Yeah, seems to be the 1.00

01:30:20.680 case. And Mario Manzi

01:30:22.560 says, since 97

01:30:24.240 my live and let live has been

01:30:26.660 eroded, as is the content

01:30:28.480 of their character, not the colour of their

01:30:30.600 skin, so that erosion hasn't come

01:30:32.540 from nowhere. And he just points

01:30:34.580 towards the fact that what a, you know, degrading

01:30:37.240 you know, sort of effect

01:30:38.760 this has had on the English, Scottish

01:30:40.780 Welsh and Irish communities and that

01:30:42.580 millions must go which is uh quite true sorry maria not mario maria uh my mistake um okay from

01:30:50.420 yours yeah i'll read a couple uh sophie says uh not only per capita this per capita is based on

01:30:57.040 actually recorded crimes how many non-native crimes goes unrecorded exactly to protect these

01:31:02.200 records for example the grooming gangs and how many native crimes are actually fake or non-crimes

01:31:07.980 that is recorded as crime such as the seek man just claiming he was attacked

01:31:11.780 that's that's that's a pretty good point very good question yeah uh michael in the u.s we call it

01:31:18.640 1350 yeah we know but you know it's it's weirdly it's 1348 to 1360 in london right it's the same

01:31:27.660 exact thing which kind of shows you that policy doesn't matter which is a terrifying conclusion

01:31:33.400 to reach

01:31:33.900 anyway

01:31:35.640 do you want me to just read one from yours both

01:31:39.480 oh yeah

01:31:40.040 okay well that's a random name I'll just read one

01:31:43.000 because we've gone past the half hour

01:31:44.360 that's a random name says

01:31:46.240 the reason the US has become

01:31:48.760 dealing capable

01:31:50.200 I guess the deal with Iran 0.90

01:31:52.180 is because they are prioritising 0.98

01:31:54.900 their handlers interests over their own

01:31:57.040 they are a vassal

01:31:58.660 to isn't real

01:32:01.180 and therefore

01:32:02.900 cannot be trusted to make a deal

01:32:04.540 as they have no real agency or

01:32:06.720 autonomy.

01:32:09.520 Didn't Tucker say 0.94

01:32:10.920 that Trump was a slave? 0.98

01:32:14.640 He probably did. That's Tucker's words. 0.97

01:32:16.480 Yeah, he did.

01:32:18.480 Well, thank you for joining me,

01:32:20.780 gentlemen. That's all we've got time for

01:32:22.680 today, ladies and gentlemen. But you can come

01:32:24.720 back for three o'clock to join Firas

01:32:26.640 for RealPolitik, where he'll be talking

01:32:28.920 more about the war as it seems

01:32:30.780 to restart. I hope you've

01:32:32.840 enjoyed the show and look forward to seeing you on the podcast tomorrow. Take care.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 08, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1435

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