The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1436

00:00:00.640 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Litter Seeders for Tuesday the 9th of June, 2026.

00:00:06.960 I'm joined by Stelios and Connor, and today we're going to be talking about the latest horror in Northern Ireland.

00:00:14.300 How the government has just come out and said, yes, it is a two-tier system and you need to live under it.

00:00:19.600 And Andy Burnham's handling of the grooming gangs.

00:00:23.200 So it's all pretty serious stuff, I'm afraid.

00:00:26.300 I don't know why we can't ever have a light-hearted podcast.

00:00:29.380 there's no nothing good is happening in the country at the moment it seems um but uh right

00:00:33.900 let's just crack on we are going to talk about the horrific incident that happened in northern

00:00:40.400 ireland it was an attempted murder more specifically an attempted beheading we woke up in a very bad

00:00:47.440 way today we first on our phones x and we came across this video which i'm not gonna play because

00:00:57.880 it is very graphic and we are a family-friendly podcast of a black migrant in northern ireland

00:01:07.660 standing on top of a citizen of northern ireland trying to behead him and there was massive panic

00:01:15.420 there the bystanders at some point started screaming one of them he is trying to cut his

00:01:21.460 head off and then they intervened and they saved the um the citizen of northern ireland they managed

00:01:31.420 to detain the somalian he is a somalian now and the the irish person is in his 40s he has been

00:01:43.760 hospitalized he's in a serious condition i imagine he would be in a serious condition

00:01:48.900 given the fact that this person was trying to behead him but one good thing to say is that here

00:01:55.060 is that the bystanders didn't start stand idle violence has a shocking effect very frequently

00:02:01.420 when people encounter violence they get stunned and sometimes they don't believe it it's a human

00:02:07.340 reaction but the good thing is that their reflexes were fast enough to um to prevent at least the

00:02:15.340 citizen from dying on the spot the additional problem is the state often criminalizes self

00:02:19.700 defense we saw this in the daniel penny case we even saw this when the london bridge stabbing

00:02:24.300 happened and you had the the guys run to the market and get like the narwhal tusk and fire

00:02:28.480 extinguisher to fight him off and they decided to write up in the papers um that he was some

00:02:32.280 sort of a far-right extremist the police ended up looking into him so um i'm not saying people

00:02:36.740 shouldn't intervene to save this guy's life well done to every bystander that did but i'm not

00:02:40.240 surprised that people are um paralyzed with the fear that if you do the right thing you will be

00:02:45.300 the one person remember the case in germany when the anti-islam activists were attacked by the afghan

00:02:49.800 who ended up stabbing the police officer in the neck because the police grabbed them as if they

00:02:54.840 were the ones causing the problem uh leaving the guy who was actually attacking the knife

00:02:58.800 completely free to murder one of the police absolutely and let us just uh point again that

00:03:05.380 this the job of the police is not to be an activist body to oversee the desired race relations or

00:03:11.380 community relations of the bureaucracy of the police they're there just to protect the public

00:03:17.540 right so we have a bbc article here one thing i say is that you see um less scaremongering

00:03:26.420 at this point we may see later but at the moment i think they do keep a sort of composure well

00:03:33.860 man arrested on suspicion of attempted murder oh sorry you've got the wrong one up there samson

00:03:41.060 yep thank you that's the wrong one back to the first one please thank you

00:03:49.780 man arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after brutal knife attack in belfast

00:03:55.300 they are describing a bit what happened video circulating online shows a number of people

00:04:01.620 including one wielding a hurling stick confronting the apparent attacker until the police arrived

00:04:07.940 and they are talking about the community and the statements of several leaders all of them express

00:04:14.580 how horrified they are and they're saying that there is zero room for violence of such kind

00:04:21.220 in society but there isn't because and and and daily occurrence i wanted to pick up on this

00:04:27.620 I don't know if you're going to mention it, but people have announced, oh, the attacker's nationality is Somali.

00:04:32.740 It's like, no, he's Somali.

00:04:33.940 Whether or not his nationality was British, Northern Irish, he would still be Somali.

00:04:38.400 And his presence in the country means there is actually a place for this kind of violence in our society.

00:04:43.600 Because you can tell he was going to do this, because look at Somalia.

00:04:47.640 Somalians, when gathered in sufficient numbers, create Somalia.

00:04:51.500 And so if you bring Somalians into Britain, you recreate Somalia.

00:04:54.960 I think there's a bit more than that, though.

00:04:56.500 because I've noticed the pattern that is emerging from this

00:05:01.860 is not just I'm trying to kill you.

00:05:05.140 The pattern is I'm trying to mutilate you.

00:05:07.600 So you can see in the video the man's eyes are covered in blood

00:05:11.620 because he's been stabbed in the eyes.

00:05:13.980 And that happened to Rhiannon White as well.

00:05:16.520 Think of the case in Scotland

00:05:20.920 where those four Pakistanis kidnapped the kid

00:05:23.500 and castrated him and mutilated him.

00:05:25.480 there was the case of the um it's almost as a ritualistic violence but it's it's happened in

00:05:31.400 bataclan but that was what i was looking for bataclan where actually rudy cabana stabbed a

00:05:35.200 girl over 100 times tried to behead her as well yeah so it's it's not just trying to murder you

00:05:39.640 right so you can stab someone in the chest to murder them it's also about mutilating you if

00:05:43.400 you survive leaving you with horrific life-changing injuries that destroy your life afterwards and

00:05:51.320 essentially uh ritually destroying and humiliating even if you don't die right so it's it's about

00:05:58.220 attacking not just trying to kill you it's about attacking the form of you and trying to make sure

00:06:04.220 that you are scarred forever so there's there's something deeply concerning behind that because i

00:06:10.160 mean okay you get stabbed to death that's awful but this isn't just being stabbed to death this

00:06:15.340 is worse so leader of the ulcer unionist party uh john burroughs said the incident was beyond any

00:06:22.640 attack i've seen in the likes of northern ireland before just be clear it's just sort of that it's

00:06:27.240 not like northern ireland's been a place of peace and harmony yeah not exactly and he expressed

00:06:32.560 concerns around the narratives that could play out in the coming days and said people may attempt

00:06:38.600 to exploit the incident i'm worried about those narratives too yeah we will talk a lot about

00:06:43.500 narratives here um lbc here had changed the title a few moments ago oh yeah the title didn't refer

00:06:53.260 to the ethnicity of the in their defense it was only just released before we went live yes but

00:06:59.340 it's a good thing that they changed it so let's give credit where it's due and here this is from

00:07:06.220 the daily mail i will read that they again have several statements and they say dup counselor

00:07:15.580 jordan doran said he was left shocked and deeply concerned by footage circulating online said many

00:07:22.700 residents have contacted me expressing concerns about community safety and seeking reassurance

00:07:28.620 following the incident and says those concerns are entirely understandable people deserve to feel

00:07:34.940 safe in their homes and community regardless of where they live but then there was another there

00:07:42.140 were other statements again about narratives urging people to not share the footage has

00:07:50.140 keir starmer made a statement about division yet uh yes he has how has he had a division with us

00:07:56.940 and the somali community yeah interestingly he didn't mention how the criminal should feel the

00:08:02.220 full force of the law that's weird isn't it right so the police says here our officers were on the

00:08:10.300 scene within minutes and we wish to acknowledge the members of the public who strive to save the

00:08:14.780 man from further attack their willingness to step forward to help another person shows incredible

00:08:20.460 bravery and community spirit we're also aware of footage circulating online and we would strongly

00:08:27.340 urge members of the public not to share or repost these images doing so risks causing further trauma

00:08:34.520 to the injured man's loved ones and may pull them up as the smoke screen and may impact the ongoing

00:08:40.380 investigation our thoughts remain with the victim's family at this deeply distressing time

00:08:45.580 if that were true you would not create more victims by upholding the system that brings

00:08:50.220 these people into the country in the first place instead i happen to have my suspicions

00:08:54.080 but the problem is that the blank slate theory cannot withstand video footage if we see time

00:08:59.980 and time again these atrocities perpetrated by one of theirs against one of ours we can only

00:09:04.360 conclude these people aren't meant to be here we cannot coexist with them and they just have to go

00:09:08.300 home well i mean their presence here is turning them into victims this is what happens so saying

00:09:14.200 look we've created a class of people who have been victimized by immigration and we're going

00:09:19.580 to hold them up as a smokescreen so you can't criticize immigration is the most deeply sinister

00:09:24.560 thing i've ever heard and it's emotionally manipulative because they're saying that not

00:09:29.640 only that if you criticize them you are far right and beyond the pale but you are actually dishonoring

00:09:35.700 the member dishonoring the victim yes so their idea of honoring the victim is look away yeah

00:09:42.480 and so it the system creates the victims that it uses to defend itself in order to continue

00:09:48.320 creating more victims it's absolutely macabre i despise it your dead relatives are their human

00:09:54.180 shield yes that's exactly what it is right so when we encounter such horrific terrorist attacks

00:10:01.420 we encounter a pattern i really hope i'm this stelios is law here is yeah i really the same

00:10:09.360 yeah i really hope that i get falsified yeah i really hope please tell me that i i will be wrong

00:10:15.220 and that this won't roughly describe what happens here right so this is the following pattern stage

00:10:20.480 number one a crime is committed by members of groups the left considers oppressed they definitely

00:10:25.800 consider somalians oppressed oh yeah msm casts aspersion about oppressor groups that imply that

00:10:31.820 the far right is to blame that's the don't share it don't insult the victims you're not allowed to

00:10:36.400 have an opinion on this yeah stage number three one the identity of the perpetrator cannot be

00:10:41.820 denied. MSM treats it as an isolated incident that was caused by mental illness and which does not

00:10:48.240 suggest any deeper pattern. Which is why you aren't allowed to share the video footage, because if you

00:10:52.420 put these images side by side by side, a pattern forms. Absolutely. And look at the double standard.

00:10:58.000 The smallest criticism of the government is treated as indicative of a deeply entrenched

00:11:06.020 far-right epidemic an extremist one that wants to give back to bring back europe to the 1930s but

00:11:12.800 ignore all the um thousands of isolated incidents because they are not supposed to be

00:11:19.480 to be indicating a pattern stage number four politicians and establishmentarians make

00:11:25.120 performative expressions of sympathy to the victims and the family stage number five after

00:11:30.060 the empty virtual signaling session they scam scaremonger about the far right so just i actually

00:11:36.860 think that's the weak part of not your theory necessarily but their reaction to what is

00:11:42.780 happening because i mean you can call me far right all you want but at the end of the day i don't

00:11:48.640 care you are the people who permit a system where i mean it's not this not the first time like the

00:11:53.900 wayne broadhurst murder was just like oh you know in the middle of the day in the middle of the

00:11:58.320 street it's just the sort of thing that happens over and over and over so if being far right is

00:12:03.020 being in opposition to this system then fine i don't mind if you call me far right well they

00:12:06.840 definitely but i'm definitely in opposition to the system they definitely make a far right appear

00:12:10.700 sensible if far right means opposition to this uh stupid multiculturalism then they make it

00:12:18.280 sensible i'm a single issue voter for the i don't want to get stabbed to death by a somalian party

00:12:22.420 and i don't want to be beheaded yeah and i don't care what names you call me i'm still voting for

00:12:26.020 apparently that's extremist so uh those who challenge the dominant paradigm get um are met

00:12:32.780 with content wise irrelevant screeching about racism and extremism his only purpose is to divert

00:12:38.040 attention away from the dead ends of the progressive paradigm and then business as usual so

00:12:42.600 again like five and six i think that i haven't actually seen them screaming racism yet because

00:12:47.960 it's just such a difficult sell at this point it's like okay maybe you know a few years ago

00:12:53.120 you could do that but come on this is just too frequent wait till wait till tonight's protest

00:12:57.800 i guess so yeah i guess tomorrow's guardian headline will prove you wrong or maybe there

00:13:02.820 have already been some voices that sadly have said so so here is kia stama says the horrific

00:13:08.060 attack in belfast last night is sickening he says that he has absolutely no tolerance for

00:13:14.280 abhorrent scenes of violence like this on our streets because they're happening my thoughts

00:13:18.840 tolerate them being here in the first place he says that his uh thoughts are first and foremost

00:13:23.500 with the victim and he thanks the first responders including members of the public who intervened

00:13:29.200 actions speak louder than words he seems to me to have to make this performative expression of

00:13:37.300 sympathy but what has changed since southport yeah well even before southampton if he was if

00:13:44.180 he was still a lawyer he would be first in the cab rank to take pro bono the defense case for

00:13:49.680 the attempted beheader because remember he went around the world trying to get murderers and child

00:13:54.060 murderers off the death penalty and kept representing terrorists in this country so

00:13:59.120 excuse me if i don't believe you that you actually care about the victims because your politics and

00:14:02.840 your legal advocacy creates more victims and let's not forget that kia stama was a human rights

00:14:08.980 lawyer and Rupert Lowe here has a very strong statement where he's talking about how the

00:14:15.960 intricacies and the complexities of the human rights system has led to these crimes being

00:14:23.680 more likely to happen. Yes I mean the entire part of the human rights system at this point

00:14:28.320 seems to be how can we defend the rights of criminals to stay in the country where they

00:14:32.740 have committed crimes absolutely and i'm reminded of the case in of epping where initially the judge

00:14:39.780 said i'm a bit sympathetic to the concerns of the citizens of epping the rest and then there was

00:14:45.880 another judge who overthrew this ruling i think an associate of the fabian society yeah who said

00:14:52.520 that the human rights of of the asylum seekers even if they have engaged in met in systematic

00:14:59.600 sexual assault trump override the concerns of the natives and the appeal was brought forward

00:15:06.520 by the home office yeah so by lord hermer yeah so the state is just against you so i mean this

00:15:11.480 is hermer all over all this sadly makes me think that their expression of sympathy to victims is

00:15:17.780 performative because any kind of sympathy that isn't merely performative is followed by action

00:15:24.800 i think they haven't acted after many such cases well they fundamentally do not want to change the

00:15:31.760 structure of the system that produces these results as far as and we'll talk about that

00:15:35.640 in my segment as far as they're concerned the system is operating as intended and don't look

00:15:40.660 back in anger because this is inevitable is a core part of that system absolutely absolutely

00:15:46.000 and here i was sent by my friend uh pete british here's pete he says the media are already saying

00:15:53.380 the far-right elements will make something of it okay there we go this is to ignore that all

00:15:58.540 civilized peoples from any political viewpoint are justified in feeling revulsion and outrage

00:16:03.160 at what has been thrust onto us he says that he's sickened by both the act and the milquetoast

00:16:09.020 respond report and let me show you what he screenshotted there we go i would ask people

00:16:15.080 not to engage with far-right elements who use this incident in attempts so division the the

00:16:19.540 premise is there is an original position where

00:16:21.620 us and the Somali stabbers

00:16:23.780 and scammers have everything in common

00:16:25.600 and it's just the existence of this

00:16:27.520 podcast and Twitter which

00:16:29.460 somehow separates us.

00:16:31.200 And let's also remind

00:16:33.540 people of the

00:16:35.300 Lib Dem MP in

00:16:37.660 the rape gang inquiry

00:16:39.020 in the grooming gang inquiry

00:16:40.980 who was saying, well but Elon

00:16:43.620 Musk is driving this narrative.

00:16:45.600 As if Elon Musk creates the division.

00:16:47.700 yeah as if an ex this bad platform according to the system is showing you what is happening and

00:16:55.080 the best thing to do is to look away yeah um i've said it before and i'll say again elon must buying

00:17:00.500 ex has been such a boon for everyone here we have sdlp north belfast councillor carl white

00:17:07.260 asking social media users not to share footage of the incident out of respect for the family

00:17:13.600 in appeals using the family as a shield sorry i just hate it you know what what you should do

00:17:17.960 you've got to go and find and watch the footage that could be you tomorrow right you have to be

00:17:23.060 aware of what is happening in this country and this is yet another indicative indication of the

00:17:29.840 pattern of emotional manipulation where they're telling you look away don't talk about it because

00:17:35.800 if you talk about it it's uh somehow dishonoring the victims and their families division you might

00:17:42.340 not want somali stabbers in your country so people have a choice they either follow the people who

00:17:48.340 tell them to look away and to never criticize them in promoting the policies that are leading

00:17:54.500 society to disintegrate or they could actually have a different response which i'm saying this

00:18:00.240 is it here so get informed watch what happened don't look away don't forget it after five minutes

00:18:08.220 because this usually happens people do do encounter things online but then they forget them

00:18:15.540 don't forget them and ask yourself several questions such as why is this happening why does

00:18:21.760 it keep happening and how many victims must die or be abused in order for the establishment to

00:18:29.240 understand that there is a problem with the rampant multiculturalism that they are promoting

00:18:35.140 and accelerating so i think that this is a much better response yeah people should have and i

00:18:41.500 will say one thing here at the danger of sounding callous but i think you know sincerity is is

00:18:47.700 important i think that they should completely reject all this emotional manipulation coming

00:18:53.360 their way all this emotion that all this emotional manipulation that is trying to get them to look

00:18:59.280 away and if they don't look away to don't speak about it and one thing to say about the families

00:19:04.620 and the victims and them being dishonored and about their wishes first of all the left isn't

00:19:10.620 doesn't have the moral high ground to talk about how you dishonor the victims and the fat and their

00:19:16.780 families i'll just give you briefly mention the appalling behavior of the democrats in the u.s

00:19:25.100 congress in the presence of the parents of irina zarutska none of them gave any standing ovation

00:19:31.980 or participated in at least showing basic human sympathy

00:19:36.660 to someone who didn't exactly spend her life

00:19:39.520 as being a Republican candidate.

00:19:42.180 So they don't have the moral high ground.

00:19:44.420 But even if someone who has been a victim

00:19:48.800 of such crimes or their families comes forth and say,

00:19:53.000 please don't talk about it, I will talk about it.

00:19:56.760 You're not hiding behind the victims.

00:19:58.300 Yes, it was them now or yesterday

00:20:01.280 tomorrow it's going to be someone else and unless we talk about it um people won't know about it

00:20:07.260 and the likelihood of other victims for you know other people falling victims to such

00:20:13.620 horrible crimes will be higher so completely throw away the step over this emotional moment

00:20:21.500 i hate i hate this the the paternalistic state it's like no no just look away i'll protect you

00:20:26.100 from it no you're not you're inflicting this on us yeah and you trying to hide behind the victims

00:20:30.660 you create is just not acceptable and also i never trust the victims families statements are

00:20:35.860 always their own statements because we've already had the victims family say we were coerced we were

00:20:39.580 told that if we said something behavioral insights team interjected raiku or over in the states it's

00:20:44.760 the department of justice's community relations service they always coach the families to give

00:20:48.260 statements that are consideratory to race relations and they use the threat that you're

00:20:51.540 going to jeopardize the trial you won't see justice you'll cause cause race riots in order to get them

00:20:55.680 to make these narrative concessions so as much as i appreciate the families are grieving they don't

00:21:00.260 want to see something like this or you know the the body cam footage of this shouldn't be happening

00:21:04.480 full stop yeah and the only way to stop it from happening to my kids or yours or me or you exactly

00:21:10.660 is to talk about it and then act yeah uh here will kingston has a good statement he says sure

00:21:17.440 public beheadings are a concern but what i'm really worried about is the possibility of division

00:21:22.340 you'll be coming on the podcast soon oh good that's good but um one thing to say is um another

00:21:27.640 way of getting people who aren't that well versed into current discourse to start noticing

00:21:35.240 things and what is happening around them is to tell them that there is no such thing as harmony

00:21:40.980 that is being disrupted by people talking about these crimes harmony already does not exist

00:21:47.720 division already does not exist and the scaremongering of regarding the far right

00:21:53.420 in any meaningful sense has nothing to do with right-wing extremism it's all about galvanizing

00:21:59.360 and bringing together the so-called oppress from a left-wing perspective these groups are

00:22:05.920 incompatible the only way to that the left has to buy to put them together is to invent a common

00:22:13.520 enemy that is why we constantly hear about right-wing extremism and the far right and uh yep

00:22:19.580 and one thing is that we should bear in mind what the deputy prime minister david lammy said we're

00:22:28.080 going to cover this shortly this is you know the bridge for the next segment he said racial equality

00:22:33.320 doesn't mean treating everyone the same so this is the deputy prime minister so my belief is that

00:22:40.960 people should start talking about it they should start posing difficult questions and start

00:22:46.900 pondering the question you know start asking themselves what should change and how why are

00:22:54.680 these people here um uh g4 gr4 mpz says we are the kulaks just in slow motion well yeah um shadow

00:23:05.300 band says the belfast attack has taken the folks away from police misconduct anti-whitism in the

00:23:09.820 henry noack case and put the focus back on immigration the state's probably happy it's the

00:23:13.340 same picture it's that yeah it's it's the same picture it's exactly the same it's it's the system

00:23:17.560 and the immigrants are the agents of the system acting in the system's own defense wouldn't have

00:23:22.780 two-tier anti-white policing if you didn't have people here that were benefiting benefiting from

00:23:26.980 that double standard yeah yeah uh all i keep managing is the footage of frank drebin in front

00:23:32.040 of the fireworks exploding shouting nothing to see here yeah um how are we expecting belfast to go

00:23:37.840 tonight i mean obviously do not go out and riot do not go out and cause trouble but we're not the

00:23:42.820 people who control such things and it'll be worse than in southampton i'll tell you that um but

00:23:48.820 you know what are you what are you gonna do anyway let's let's move on um so david lammy

00:23:55.100 has just come out and admitted that this is a two-tier system it's a system one rule for you

00:23:59.660 one rule for others and that is the thing done by design the system is working as intended

00:24:05.220 this is completely normal i mean you can see the difference in protesting right this is

00:24:09.160 UKIP protests where they're battering the crap out of people in Southampton and the Black Lives

00:24:17.620 Matter protests that you remember was in the middle of the lockdowns and everyone was getting

00:24:22.140 on their knees because that's the way they view these things and so look I've been saying this

00:24:27.920 for a while now but look at this like a colonial police force right I've been reading The Wretched

00:24:32.040 of the Earth by Frantz Fanon recently because I think that's actually a really relevant text

00:24:35.560 at the moment and at the end of it he's got a series of psychological profiles where he he talks

00:24:40.960 to young people or like algerians about their experience under colonialism and there's this one

00:24:48.460 one example he uses where two a 13 year old and a 14 year old algerian boy are friends with this

00:24:53.660 french boy of the same age and they murder him with a knife and afterwards they're like so you

00:24:57.980 just murdered your friend in cobbled like yeah because all the french want to wipe us out so

00:25:01.720 we've got to do our part we couldn't kill an adult but we could kill this french boy because

00:25:05.100 he didn't know we were going to kill him so we just said hey come to this place and then we

00:25:08.340 stabbed him to death with a knife right so it was just and they're just completely cold-hearted

00:25:12.100 about it and he um he makes the point that um they are like okay well why did you do it one of the

00:25:23.400 boys is completely cold and just says well he was a french but the other one says have you ever heard

00:25:27.900 of a frenchman going to jail for hurting an algerian and franzo no i haven't right that's

00:25:34.740 the way the colonial system works the law cuts one way against the oppressed class and in favor

00:25:40.100 of the oppressor and that is a representation that we can see here perfectly the law cuts one way

00:25:45.840 have you ever heard of a non-white person going to jail for racism of course you haven't of course

00:25:51.500 you haven't they take the knee to the non-white people they beat the living daylights out of the

00:25:56.740 oppressor this is the uncomfortable conversation that has come about in the aftermath of henry

00:26:01.440 Novak's death, particularly with the response of the Sikh community. And that is that we have heard

00:26:05.940 for decades now about our-based Sikhs. We were relying on them to team up with us against Islam.

00:26:12.540 That was the promise of the sort of counter-jihad liberal faction on the right. And now you see the

00:26:16.320 Sikhs closing ranks, not just around defending Digwa and his family, including the grandmother

00:26:20.120 who said, well, any mother would have done this. And the Sikh organizations say, well, we're not

00:26:24.280 sure that Vikram Digwa actually wanted to go out and kill Remy Novak. Yeah, he did. But you also see

00:26:28.640 Sikhs that have otherwise tried to infiltrate their way into the right turn around and say

00:26:33.860 well Henry Novak looked aggressive he was probably the killer I actually have to side with my Sikh

00:26:38.120 brothers and sisters because that is part of the Sikh code so understand that when a system that

00:26:42.600 privileges them is on the line against you then even the minority groups that they have existing

00:26:49.280 blood feuds with in their ancestral lands they will side with them against you to continue to

00:26:54.520 benefit from the system and so your interpersonal relationships with these groups will not matter

00:26:59.040 because they see themselves as groups with something to lose if you regain possession

00:27:02.520 of your own country and they're not wrong to see that either right that's how the system works

00:27:07.640 they are not prepared to give up the racial privilege that the system gives them

00:27:11.020 even if they are sympathetic which i'm sure many of them are sympathetic i don't think so at this

00:27:15.680 point well i i think a couple of these guys are being used as wider representatives i'm sure

00:27:20.800 that there are going to be Sikhs who are sympathetic if you are Sikhs would you ban

00:27:24.120 immigration from India tomorrow to save Britain they would say no but ultimately it doesn't

00:27:28.640 matter whether they're sympathetic or not because they're not prepared to give up the racial

00:27:32.120 hierarchy that they are enjoying and so this is just the fact of the matter in Britain at the

00:27:38.880 moment and everyone can see it for example the founder of Iceland Sir Malcolm Walker says two

00:27:47.240 tier policing isn't just happening on the streets uh the cops rushed to one of his stores three

00:27:51.420 minutes after a phony accusation of racism was made after a supervisor but they won't come when

00:27:56.480 they say well we're being uh gangs of youths are violently shoplifting from our stores they just

00:28:02.160 don't turn up wasn't he one of the first people to come out and switch from the tories to stoma

00:28:05.680 um i don't know actually i think that was the preference cascade was in place when saachi and

00:28:11.420 who did the Labour isn't working advert um openly endorsed Keir Starmer I think he he was the same

00:28:16.780 um this is just the the consequence of the policies you support it turns out yeah so I

00:28:21.900 didn't know they'd done that but the point being even people who have got everything invested in

00:28:27.120 the system I mean you know Iceland's a major supermarket chain in Britain uh for anyone

00:28:31.580 doesn't know that you would not expect him to go breaking ranks like this publicly unless there

00:28:37.040 is a real problem but accuse the customer you accuse the stuff of racism the police there in

00:28:42.020 three minutes say we're being constantly burgled by shoplifters they don't care and they're not

00:28:46.940 going to turn up this is not our problem you're on your own same thing happened with marks and

00:28:50.520 spencers 2021 they're releasing lingerie to rage money from george for george floyd 2025 uh five or

00:28:56.000 no it's 2026 our help other news are raiding our stores in clapham and sadiq khan is wrong about

00:29:01.340 knife crime and crime in london he's obviously lying so yeah i forgot the mns one as well um so

00:29:06.680 anyway uh after the murder of uh henry novak caused a stir jd vance uh decided to make a

00:29:14.420 comment on it and um i've seen a lot of them saying oh we we don't want americans commenting

00:29:19.260 on the side but this is a perfectly salient set of statements um he says henry novak died in the

00:29:24.880 same way civilization dies abandoned handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for

00:29:29.160 him and accused of hate crimes he did not commit his murder is as tragic as it is enraging he

00:29:34.040 should still be alive today and would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood

00:29:37.740 their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom

00:29:41.540 despise the West and the people who love it. Henry was far from the first to needlessly lose his life

00:29:45.800 and I fear he won't be the last. Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response, the only

00:29:50.840 response, is righteous anger. One of the most important things the Trump administration has

00:29:54.820 proven to the world is that stopping the flow of mass migration and defending national sovereignty

00:29:58.620 is a matter of political will and leadership. Anything else is an excuse. It is because we love

00:30:03.760 the west that we want to preserve it we love our civilization we love our country we love our

00:30:06.840 children nobody nobody should ever die in the way that henry novak died may god comfort those who

00:30:11.940 loved him may god rest his soul that's the that's the sort of statement starmer should have been

00:30:16.020 putting out that's the statement that the british prime minister should have put out instead we get

00:30:21.400 david lammy going after us saying oh no his comments were wrong it's like in what what about

00:30:26.420 those comments was wrong the the only thing that you could say from the right that was incorrect

00:30:30.600 is that the Trump administration have, if anything,

00:30:33.600 been inactive on their own domestic immigration agenda.

00:30:36.640 But what they have done is excellent things

00:30:38.640 via the State Department to combat the forces

00:30:40.720 of civilizational erasure in Europe and the UK.

00:30:42.800 They've said, essentially, white flight

00:30:44.260 is itself a human rights violation.

00:30:46.460 They've been cataloguing all of the instances

00:30:48.440 of two-tier policing, the grooming gangs,

00:30:50.100 murders like those of Henry Novak's

00:30:51.500 or the Southport slangs.

00:30:52.160 So he got pretty much every beat in that post,

00:30:55.900 bang on, and Lammy instead decided to

00:30:59.380 apparently call him up and say

00:31:01.100 well you're misinformed because Vikram

00:31:03.240 Digwa, whose family came over in the 90s

00:31:05.480 from India after an arranged marriage

00:31:07.020 were Brits. They're just

00:31:09.280 Brits. And he

00:31:09.920 literally said... So you're wrong because you're correct.

00:31:14.020 Yeah, that's exactly it.

00:31:15.760 He literally says that he

00:31:17.180 phoned up Vance and told the Vice

00:31:19.140 President that the killing has got nothing to do

00:31:21.140 with mass immigration. You're wrong.

00:31:23.120 Because Vikram Digwa was a British citizen.

00:31:25.440 It's like, oh right, there we go then.

00:31:27.400 Lammy found this funny as well.

00:31:28.960 Yeah.

00:31:29.260 There's a thing of him on Sky News,

00:31:30.440 of Trevor Phillips, laughing about it.

00:31:32.340 Yep.

00:31:32.720 Man's dead.

00:31:33.780 Why do you think this is funny, David?

00:31:35.680 Is it because you, unilaterally,

00:31:37.320 as part of an ethnic group,

00:31:38.800 you benefit from the system?

00:31:40.300 He's always benefited from the system.

00:31:41.620 And he shows no moral regard

00:31:43.260 to the native population,

00:31:44.640 so he wants to keep this system of privileges

00:31:46.620 at our expense in place.

00:31:48.380 Yes.

00:31:48.720 And it's always privileged him as well,

00:31:50.520 because, of course,

00:31:50.940 Lammy is famously thick as too short planks,

00:31:53.960 and yet he constantly got accelerated.

00:31:56.900 He even went to Harvard, I think it was,

00:31:58.500 uh and it's like there's there's no way lammy went to harvard on his own merits he went there

00:32:03.200 because he's black and they were like oh it's the 80s and 90s we better put the black guy up there

00:32:07.740 because this is politically correct is lammy's entire career which is how he ended up as deputy

00:32:12.440 prime minister and um lord chief justice i think it is isn't it yeah he's the justice secretary

00:32:16.900 he's actually in charge of all of these and he's the guy who's abolishing jury trials for us did

00:32:21.940 harvard teach him that henry the seventh came before henry the eighth i have no idea where he

00:32:27.220 learned that um i imagine that actually harvard officially wouldn't teach him that i think lammy

00:32:32.240 is just a moron um but as you say it's always been that he has enjoyed an ethnic privilege in

00:32:38.240 this country from the institutions and now he is at the top of those institutions in charge of them

00:32:43.500 well what's what's he doing he wants to for example remove jury trials well sorry that's

00:32:48.460 actually a security that the the british people had against the state and its agents right the

00:32:55.540 the judge might well be an insanely woke judge who hates you and it's like well i'm here to keep you

00:33:00.500 down because you're white and he's not white but if the jury say no he's not guilty or this guy is

00:33:05.060 guilty whatever the judge isn't the person who makes that decision so let me just add that this

00:33:09.820 can also backfire if the jury isn't comprised out of the traditional body because it did backfire

00:33:16.300 in the case of the labor councilor it did i'm not where he was acquitted i i appreciate that

00:33:21.280 In a multicultural society, the jury is not as reliable as it would have been back when I was young.

00:33:27.820 I mean, I had a homogenous society.

00:33:29.360 But it was still some method that the average person had of resisting state power.

00:33:34.860 It was still a way for the people to have a say in what happened in their own country.

00:33:41.220 And so David Lammy, being, again, the son of a foreigner, being someone who is not ethnically British,

00:33:47.000 is now at the top of these institutions

00:33:49.660 because of the two-tier affirmative action

00:33:51.520 that got him there

00:33:52.180 and is changing the system

00:33:53.780 and is sat there defending the system

00:33:55.660 on the BBC saying,

00:33:56.640 no, Vance is wrong to think

00:33:58.980 that the system should serve Henry Novak

00:34:01.060 because he is white

00:34:02.400 and the system serves non-white immigrants.

00:34:05.500 That's what the system is for.

00:34:07.020 Two quick things to pick up on.

00:34:08.460 The Lammy report was responsible for,

00:34:11.380 do you remember the guidance

00:34:12.000 that was going on under Shabana Mahmood

00:34:13.420 when she was Justice Secretary

00:34:14.480 that said that essentially straight white men

00:34:16.140 need to get longer sentences because every other marginalized group pregnant people and blacks

00:34:19.980 were going to get a pre-trial sentencing report that was based on lammy's report the second thing

00:34:24.440 is lammy during the um unrest following the southport murders wrote a piece i think it was

00:34:31.220 in the times uh trevor phillips did the same where they both said the the english people are the ones

00:34:38.700 that need to integrate back into their own society as well yeah so okay the english people need to

00:34:43.740 integrate back into inclusive British values, and you are defining a British person as that

00:34:47.380 who abides by Blairite British values. But Vikram Diggur is a Brit. So clearly, the values...

00:34:52.720 He's abiding by the values.

00:34:54.220 The values mean nothing. Because, or, well, of course, or the values are, butchering a

00:34:59.500 white person is actually British values. Nevertheless, if you are to say that being

00:35:03.580 peaceful and tolerant and diverse, as Keir Starmer said, are themselves British values,

00:35:08.680 then the values mean nothing if you can break said values by murdering someone and still be

00:35:14.080 considered a brit by the highest officials in the land well i mean the the the problem is

00:35:18.280 implications even worse when a non-white person murders a white person that isn't a sign of

00:35:22.660 division right when the the non-white communities are not told whoa why are you spreading this

00:35:27.300 division why are you causing these problems like a normal state would focus its ire on the community

00:35:33.800 that have committed the crime

00:35:35.000 and produce reliably the perpetrators.

00:35:37.340 And not the victims of the crime.

00:35:40.400 Instead of that, what they're saying,

00:35:41.900 the only acceptable comment to make about these crimes

00:35:44.980 is you haven't been taxed enough

00:35:47.020 to make them less violent.

00:35:50.240 Yeah, not enough reparations have been made.

00:35:51.800 And not enough benefits,

00:35:53.420 not enough restorative justice and respect.

00:35:57.480 And the massaging treatment you see the police officers

00:36:00.180 handing to the BLM protesters.

00:36:03.800 And so this is why this is taking on the aspect of the British colonial state having chosen just a new privileged settler class.

00:36:12.720 This is what's happening.

00:36:13.660 And so you are the people in the colonized people in the, I mean, you are the natives of this land, and you have non-native settlers who are imposing laws above you.

00:36:26.340 And even Laura Kusenberg was like, well, it is a two-tier system by their own metrics.

00:36:31.660 We're going to watch this because it's just remarkable.

00:36:33.800 remarkable how even the bbc is like well i mean it's in your guidance and it's it's all done by

00:36:39.560 the people in charge and they all promote it that we've seen proof of what they call two-tier

00:36:46.120 policing and i want to show everyone the guidance that they've talked about to kind of prove that

00:36:50.800 point that you've already referred to this is a police chief's guidance it says our commitment

00:36:55.320 to racial equity means producing equality of policing outcomes for people from different

00:37:00.360 ethnic groups now that's a bit of a word salad but this is i think right just before we go on

00:37:05.540 that's not a word salad at all no no it's not that's actually incredibly clear and what that

00:37:10.740 says is you literally if you come from one group you get one kind of treatment if you come from

00:37:16.400 another group you get another kind of treatment and we have seen over and over and over what

00:37:20.440 that actually means it also implies crime doesn't matter yeah yeah because if the the uh most

00:37:27.800 important thing is to produce equality of policing outcomes then you know the question of

00:37:32.920 right why are some communities engaging overrepresented in crime it doesn't matter

00:37:39.140 crime doesn't matter so long as you show the equality of number of arrests exactly and this

00:37:45.240 i mean that's exactly what this means and it means those ethnic groups that are committing

00:37:49.280 less crime well sorry we're going to have to essentially like juggle the figures massage

00:37:56.020 the figures until we get to the the equality that we're looking for and if one particular racial

00:38:01.940 group or other groups cause far more crimes than others well then they get more of the privilege

00:38:07.600 of the state they get more of the attention of the state you get less attention you get less

00:38:13.480 protection we're actually more concerned about the criminals than the victims this is explicit

00:38:19.320 in what she's saying here but anyway we'll carry on with this for a minute policing outcomes for

00:38:23.840 people from different ethnic groups now that's a bit of a word salad but this is the really key

00:38:28.880 phrase it does not mean treating everyone the same or being colorblind so just a quick point on this

00:38:37.520 this is precisely the consequence of critical race theory this is exactly okay which comes from it's

00:38:45.200 the the long march through the institutions has arrived at the top of our police forces

00:38:49.360 these are their arguments this is what kimberly crenshaw has been arguing throughout mapping

00:38:53.680 the margins and all of the other essays that she wrote the point is a process of treating everyone

00:39:00.240 equally comes out with unequal results because different kinds of people go through the same

00:39:05.120 process and what they're looking for is an equal result so that means the process has to change

00:39:11.040 that means the process becomes it you don't treat everyone the same colorblind because that means

00:39:16.960 actually you get a system of unequal results which itself they consider to be oppression

00:39:22.160 and therefore this the process has to change so you will be discriminated against in the process

00:39:27.920 for being a white person whereas if you're not and you're a part of a marginalized group

00:39:34.160 you get privileges and that's all that can mean absolutely and when it comes to the people asking

00:39:41.120 whether it is actually a two-tier system or a two-tier police two-tier justice it's not an

00:39:46.160 empirical matter it actually follows from what the ideology of the establishment is correct

00:39:53.200 their ideology is we have the hierarchy of oppression the intersectional calculus and

00:39:58.880 equality or equity demands treating the oppressed preferentially that's it we we have that that's

00:40:06.400 what that's the implication of their ideology you're absolutely right it's a priori it is that

00:40:11.520 through the the process it is that but we do have the empirical results of course yeah as well i'm

00:40:16.720 just saying it's not something that they can disconfirm while they are saying that they are

00:40:23.440 a pro equity you're completely right you're completely right but the evidence is just

00:40:27.520 overwhelming quick thing so of course harvard law school would have been uh david's alumni so he

00:40:34.400 probably would have had that in his curriculum at the time but i want to pick up on just a common

00:40:38.400 talking point I keep hearing, not from you, but from

00:40:40.320 outside commentary on this, from the likes of professional

00:40:42.420 Redditor Brendan O'Neill and Spike

00:40:44.380 today.

00:40:46.220 I'm sick to death of hearing about hypocrisy, because

00:40:48.280 David Lammy's not a hypocrite. In fact...

00:40:50.400 Oh no, he's been saying this for a long time.

00:40:52.680 Quite. So, he's in favour of a two-tier

00:40:54.320 system, and I think in his head, and

00:40:55.820 God forbid you try and get inside the mind of David Lammy,

00:40:58.300 but he's hearing two-tier system and thinking,

00:41:00.300 I'm being accused of hypocrisy, but he's not

00:41:02.320 a hypocrite. He's just the beneficiary of

00:41:04.320 a system of racial privileges, and

00:41:06.280 because he doesn't consider people outside

00:41:08.140 of his racial out-group or his

00:41:09.840 broader, marginalised constituency of non-whites

00:41:12.440 to be his moral equals.

00:41:14.000 He doesn't show us any compassion, so he doesn't think we should be

00:41:16.120 on a two-tier system. Instead, he thinks the

00:41:18.060 moral thing to do is to instantiate a two-tier system

00:41:20.160 to essentially, um, revenge

00:41:22.160 his ethnic group

00:41:23.840 against ours for the

00:41:26.100 crime of, I don't know, enforcing civilisation

00:41:28.200 on them, or something.

00:41:29.520 He has literally said in other

00:41:31.740 interviews, things like, well, I was

00:41:34.040 insulted by the National Front in the 60s

00:41:36.220 and 70s or 80s or whenever it was.

00:41:38.140 And, like, therefore, we have to end racism in this country.

00:41:43.000 It's like, okay, look, I'm sorry that this happened to you, David.

00:41:44.920 I'm not in favor of people racially abusing you,

00:41:47.220 but I'm also not in favor of a colonial state making me a second-class citizen

00:41:51.220 and colonizing my country from under my feet.

00:41:54.460 And if those things are incompatible, well, you actually have other places that you can go.

00:41:58.880 I am not someone from somewhere else,

00:42:01.980 but you could make an ancestral claim somewhere else because of who you are.

00:42:07.320 and so you have to make a decision about that is one thing tolerable or not because us being

00:42:12.580 second-class citizens in our own country is not tolerable for us we're not going to tolerate it

00:42:16.780 and this if you wanted to repudiate the national front you could do better than them you know

00:42:20.900 fulfilling all of their worst warnings well yeah as if you are going to yeah i mean literally

00:42:26.200 you know pal the the black man will have the whip hand over the white man it's like what

00:42:29.940 what are we seeing if that's not it but how would you describe this how like it's i mean

00:42:36.680 It's literally what's happening.

00:42:38.280 If you don't like the right-wing rising,

00:42:41.460 don't replicate the conditions that lead to the rise of the right.

00:42:44.520 Exactly.

00:42:45.200 Yeah, exactly.

00:42:46.120 You've done this to yourselves.

00:42:48.000 Anyway, so he was presented directly with it, and he doesn't care.

00:42:51.720 He doubles down on all of us.

00:42:52.920 We'll watch a little bit more just so you can see it.

00:42:54.780 Now, that sounds like it goes absolutely against the principle

00:42:59.720 that you've said a couple of times this morning already,

00:43:02.140 that we are all equal before the law.

00:43:04.300 yeah uh i'm really clear we're all equal before the law so is that wrong but the complexity

00:43:12.540 is equality does not always necessarily mean the same uh and that's why i use the example

00:43:19.440 of someone who's jewish and what they eat or for example in the criminal justice the most

00:43:24.940 over-represented group in the criminal justice system are gypsy roma traveler i guess that's

00:43:30.980 because they commit the most crimes what do you want david like he just doubles down completely

00:43:35.480 on it right so you just be clear the chief the justice secretary thinks that it's right that

00:43:41.460 you are treated as a second-class citizen because some people are more criminal than others and they

00:43:46.460 deserve special treatment and sorry connor but i do think he's a hypocrite here because equality

00:43:51.420 and equity are different and you can't have equality before the law but also saying that

00:43:57.980 equality doesn't mean the same it's just a word that's double it's not hypocrisy because he doesn't

00:44:02.940 consider us his moral equals i don't know i'm just examining the examining the statement from

00:44:09.880 from an abstract perspective you're completely correct but i actually do agree with connor here

00:44:13.220 um it it's no i also agree that he doesn't see he sees no incompatibility he what he is saying

00:44:21.660 is essentially black people will always need special privileges to have a standard of life

00:44:27.300 uh you know in whatever regard you want uh equal to white people it's like okay but that's not what

00:44:32.360 we are asking for when we say equality this is the the perniciousness of the term equality

00:44:37.800 because it can mean many things to many people uh and they in fact normally use the term equity

00:44:43.100 to describe what he's describing there but this is the problem with the word games that we've

00:44:47.160 been playing but anyway just to be clear though this is completely the institutional uh principle

00:44:53.060 of the policing in this country here is uh the police action the policing colleges uh your

00:44:58.380 councils uh anti-racism statement and as you can see uh we're committed to anti-racism and racial

00:45:04.160 equality and as they tell us this means producing equality of policing outcomes for people of

00:45:09.900 different ethnic groups by responding to their specific needs it does not mean treating everyone

00:45:14.280 the same or being colorblind that's what they've just quoted to lammy but of course you know these

00:45:19.020 are just words the true constitution is in fact inscribed in the hearts of men is are these the

00:45:25.520 principles by which the police themselves uh live by well yes of course they are here's just west

00:45:31.260 yorkshire diversity boss who's saying yeah we need much more racial diversity within the police

00:45:35.640 because apparently it's only like 7.4 percent it's got up to 8.6 percent so more diversity is needed

00:45:41.120 west yorkshire by the way where all the grooming gangs are yep here's uh the police diversity boss

00:45:46.500 alison hindari saying we're aiming to reverse racism across society we're not trying to end

00:45:52.320 racism we're trying to reverse the racism so as far as we were concerned it was the non-white

00:45:56.760 people who are oppressed and marginalized and we need to reverse this okay got you i'll take you

00:46:02.880 at your word people don't understand that anti-racism and non-racism are different and you

00:46:07.940 you remember this more on abram x candy the guy who couldn't define racism literally said the

00:46:13.060 only solution is racism the other way absolutely yeah yeah and that's and again the critical race

00:46:18.180 theorists are the ones who are responsible for this philosophy it is them from which this comes

00:46:23.740 and it is in our institutions and their acolytes who are promoting this and this is just this was

00:46:30.040 the deputy assistance commissioner alison hidari in 2022 uh she um they they instituted this uh

00:46:37.880 program but she made a video presentation in 2024 uh presenting the race action plan and saying well

00:46:44.540 this is what we're going to do we're going to reverse racism across all of society and of course

00:46:49.180 the efforts to tackle racism are too slow we want this to go quicker and quicker and quicker the

00:46:54.820 police forces efforts to combat institutional racism have not gone far enough say the police

00:47:00.140 watchdog the same watchdog that said the police who acted and intervened in the henry novak case

00:47:05.020 did nothing wrong their literal quotes no they've done nothing wrong this is exactly how the system

00:47:10.040 should be working we're just not fast enough we haven't got there quick enough we haven't gone

00:47:14.280 far enough and this is also why when you look around and you're like god this our country is

00:47:21.440 falling apart the institutions are set against us well yes the diversity in the institutions

00:47:27.000 has never been better but things have never been worse for you for a reason so just be clear you

00:47:34.040 are part of a colonized country you are the subject people act accordingly

00:47:38.260 there's some rumble rants yep can i say something i've been told by samson that there are rumors

00:47:48.360 circulating that the instead of a somalian it was a sudanese and that the irish person died

00:47:53.960 i hope that's a rumor and i hope he's alive yeah concerning the african country i mean we can just

00:48:00.680 drop him off in the sahara and i think he can find his own way home yeah uh ko says if you

00:48:05.080 believe that certain groups are um different shall we say the only way to equalize outcomes

00:48:09.220 on paper is under or is to under police and financially advantage them i mean that's

00:48:13.780 literally what's happening is to literally not police them and give them as many resources as

00:48:19.380 possible racism at this point just means you notice the difference between groups but you

00:48:22.640 don't want to um privilege the ones that are disproportionately likely to be low iq or commit

00:48:27.180 And at bottom, I did a video about this, isn't it?

00:48:29.280 At bottom, what it's going to mean is just recognizing the existence of groups

00:48:32.800 and the fact that there are differences in different human groups.

00:48:36.780 That will be considered the very bedrock of racism, eventually.

00:48:40.320 Binary says, we're apparently one more pool table or youth club away

00:48:43.500 from no more violent beheadings in the street.

00:48:45.540 And the reason why I leave my house is so I can defend myself

00:48:48.160 from foreign criminals and then evade arrests.

00:48:49.900 I know, it's mad, isn't it?

00:48:51.780 Anyway, let's move on.

00:48:54.160 Yes.

00:48:54.820 Samson, do you want to bring up the other one?

00:48:56.240 Excellent, thank you.

00:48:57.180 So we're about 10 days away from the Makefield by-election, and Annie Burnham's canvassing

00:49:01.440 returns are not looking as rosy as he would like, and he's being stopped in the street.

00:49:06.040 Now we won't play this video, but a gentleman decided to accost him and accuse him of covering

00:49:11.280 up the grooming gangs, and Burnham's response was, well, I commissioned a series of inquiries

00:49:16.620 in Manchester after the follow-up to the 2017 drama on the BBC, three girls, the girls came

00:49:23.200 out, revealed their identities, dropped anonymity, and alongside Maggie Oliver explained that

00:49:28.680 these grave injustices had been perpetrated in his back garden in the Greater Manchester

00:49:32.900 Combined Authority, and so he launched a series of inquiries.

00:49:35.620 That's a very good cover story.

00:49:37.320 However, as we'll see, Andy Burnham, as Mayor of Manchester for almost a decade, and more

00:49:41.720 importantly, Police and Crime Commissioner, has let the police get away with covering

00:49:45.180 up the grooming gangs for a very, very long time, and just like the national statutory

00:49:49.680 inquiries that he has supported his local inquiries in manchester has seemed to be another

00:49:54.420 exercise in deferring and denying justice for the victims so when there was the big furore around

00:50:00.660 january of the last year when of course the conversation exploded on x and the government

00:50:07.260 shot down an amendment to bridget philipson's um schools bill that would have forced a statutory

00:50:12.660 national inquiry much earlier than the limited one that kistama has since committed to burnham

00:50:17.860 came out against the government ostensibly so he turned around and said actually i do support

00:50:22.700 limited local concentrated inquiries he did an interview on the on the bbc essentially saying

00:50:30.000 you should copy my model that i conducted in manchester which doesn't bode well for the

00:50:35.060 inquiries have since been announced also worthy of note in here um lisa nandy was then asked on

00:50:39.660 good morning britain what she thought about his intervention this was when she was culture

00:50:43.300 secretary and she said that essentially i understand where andy's coming from and actually

00:50:47.240 he did some great things in Manchester, so maybe

00:50:49.380 we should look at that. Nandi has since been swapped out of

00:50:51.360 Downing Street. She accused Downing Street of sexist briefings

00:50:53.280 against her, and I only raise this because

00:50:54.880 last, it was 2024,

00:50:58.040 it was rumoured that Lisa Nandi

00:50:59.240 was going to be his number two ticket for an eventual

00:51:01.380 leadership bid. Oh, really? Yes,

00:51:03.240 because she is against the Cabinet,

00:51:05.440 she's in the North, she's in Wigan, where currently,

00:51:07.300 of course, by-election is being held,

00:51:09.780 and they think they can win back the North

00:51:11.460 because Labour have to run as a two-person ticket.

00:51:13.480 So, keep your eye on that. Just a quick thing on this

00:51:15.420 as well. Oldham specifically,

00:51:17.640 Oldham Council, asked for

00:51:19.500 a Grimm Gang inquiry done by the government

00:51:21.400 in their local area, and Jess Phillips

00:51:23.540 kicked it back and said no. Yep, we're gonna

00:51:25.380 mention that. Okay, sorry. Definitely. No, no, no, apology

00:51:27.380 needed. Anyway, so, um, he has

00:51:29.480 since come out and backed the government's, uh, national

00:51:31.580 inquiries, and this is another red flag

00:51:33.480 because those who didn't see my previous segment, I believe

00:51:35.580 it was you and Dan, Stelios,

00:51:37.380 but this is headed up by Labour Baroness

00:51:39.340 Anne Longfield, who was the Children's Commissioner between

00:51:41.360 2015 and 2021. So she oversaw

00:51:43.660 the, uh, Casey

00:51:44.780 the Two Rotherham Reports and the Telford Inquiry, and she is caught in a scandal because previously

00:51:51.120 her deputy, this is Anne Berelevitz, she decided to, in 2012, produce a report for the Children's

00:51:58.820 Commissioner, and in the report, even though Asian Pakistani Muslims were vastly overrepresented

00:52:03.640 per capita, they of course came out with the line of, well, white men are disproportionately

00:52:06.980 responsible for this, they're the majority of perpetrators. Under Anne Longfield, who is a

00:52:11.220 friend of Berylovitz, Berylovitz got a payoff from the taxpayer of £134,000 and the next day was

00:52:16.560 hired on a £960 consultancy fee a day to write another report. Nice work if you can get it. Yeah,

00:52:23.000 Longfield came out and defended it. Despite Whitehall saying, you can't do this, it actually

00:52:27.760 breaks rules. But she decided to say that Berylovitz's work was, quote, the organisation is

00:52:34.000 proud of the work done by the inquiry into exploitation of children in gangs and groups,

00:52:38.260 which Sue led, the inquiry brought this issue to the fore, including exposing its true scale in

00:52:42.500 England and has led to changes to policy and practice at the national and local level bringing

00:52:46.580 about measurable improvements to identification and support provided to thousands of child victims.

00:52:51.200 Basically, she did a competent cover-up and we stand by it. And for some reason, Labour have

00:52:55.200 appointed her and Longfield as the chair of their local national inquiries, and Burnham has decided

00:53:00.540 to say that she did great work. So, if Burnham becomes leader of the Labour Party and Prime

00:53:05.820 minister he will be overseeing this and he thinks that the woman who ever saw the previous cover up

00:53:10.580 is fit to now conduct the next set of inquiries anyway so as for uh burnham's record in particular

00:53:18.040 let's look at the recent convictions of the grooming gangs because last week there was a

00:53:22.040 brand new one convicted in bradford now i know what you're thinking um bradford's not in the

00:53:25.460 greater manchester combined authority but there's a reason i'm bringing this up so this was pretty

00:53:29.300 close though well west yorkshire isn't it it is in west yorkshire again um bradford is one of the

00:53:34.700 locations the local mp for keefley robbie moore is trying to get listed as one of the targeted

00:53:40.220 areas for this national uh local inquiries only one location has been listed so far it's oldham

00:53:44.980 don't know why they haven't announced the other two yet very conspicuous but this was just last

00:53:48.280 week let's see if you can spot a pattern with the names of the perpetrator shall we so this is

00:53:52.200 hanan mir asif budhia abdul basith buhan adin ali muhammad yassir muhammad nadim ali jameel

00:54:00.760 Ahmed, Amjad Hussein,

00:54:03.380 Ashfaq Ahmed,

00:54:05.400 Aftab Ahmed, Anwar

00:54:06.940 Aziz, Yusuf Bati, Faisal

00:54:09.100 Rashid, Omar Taj, and

00:54:10.960 Shanihul Haq.

00:54:13.120 Now, in a sane country, I wouldn't be pronouncing those

00:54:15.020 names. Unfortunately,

00:54:16.880 given what's been done to us, these people are in

00:54:18.980 here and attacking children. These are 15 men

00:54:21.140 sentenced to a combined

00:54:22.200 188 years for

00:54:24.980 offences committed against 14 and 18-year-olds.

00:54:26.620 Yeah, but how many of them are there?

00:54:28.900 There are 15 total.

00:54:30.760 and they're all getting about 10 to 15 years each.

00:54:34.760 And so they'll get half that for good behaviour,

00:54:36.680 so they'll be out in five.

00:54:37.680 Yeah, despite child abuse offences

00:54:39.580 that were committed over the period of four years.

00:54:42.240 Unbelievable racial torture of children.

00:54:44.700 Yeah, here are the mugshots.

00:54:46.840 I'd hang them all.

00:54:47.580 Diversity at work. Agreed.

00:54:49.180 Now, the reason I bring this up

00:54:50.120 is because we actually have a grooming gang map,

00:54:51.940 and there is a conspicuously large spot.

00:54:54.420 Let me just see if I can wrestle control of the mouse here.

00:54:56.960 If you drag it up,

00:54:58.040 there's conspicuously large spots, of course,

00:54:59.720 around the greater manchester area but if you press on networks rather than just the cases of

00:55:05.720 perpetrators you'll see the lines all go from leeds and bradford straight into manchester straight

00:55:11.940 into the greater manchester combined authority so even if you aren't focusing on recent convictions

00:55:17.080 and we will even if you're just focusing on west yorkshire that hasn't been examined yet where

00:55:21.380 some of the bodies are buried that's just one node in a nexus that always connects back to greater

00:55:25.760 Manchester, and six of the ten boroughs in Greater Manchester have seen grooming gangs

00:55:30.080 convicted. That's Bolton, Bury, Manchester, Oldham, Rochdale, and Stockport, and those

00:55:34.280 have been on Andy Burnham's watch. And we know that thousands of victims have still

00:55:38.980 yet to be identified, and many perpetrators haven't been brought to justice. And just

00:55:42.900 last year, we have seven men jailed, thanks to Greater Manchester Police, and this is

00:55:47.440 in October. Seven men, their names are Mohamed Zahid, Kashir Bashir, Mushtaq Ahmed, Rohiz

00:55:54.320 Khan, Muhammad Shahzad, Nisar Hussein, and Nahim Akram. And this is, of course, in Rochdale.

00:56:01.160 Infamously, these things are still going on. In Rochdale, someone thought it was a great idea to

00:56:05.620 bring all of these men in. Funnily enough, many of which was Andy Burnham's Labour Party, but there

00:56:10.020 you go. And there was another one that was in December of 2025. These are two men jailed in

00:56:14.020 Bury, and just in case you think that these might not fit the pattern, the perpetrators were Imtiaz

00:56:19.160 Ali and Manzor Hussain.

00:56:21.800 As you mentioned, it's also the case

00:56:23.120 in Oldham. Now, The Guardian

00:56:24.660 has a very long article in Oldham,

00:56:27.460 and if you get past the, of course,

00:56:29.580 subheading that blames the far-right,

00:56:31.380 because, of course, the far-right is always to blame for their reaction

00:56:33.380 to mass child abuse...

00:56:34.960 Wow, they're causing division, aren't they, Connor?

00:56:36.660 Yeah, I'm very divided with the Pakistani clans that reliably

00:56:39.040 produce these perpetrators. They've been

00:56:41.120 reporting that girls have been going missing from children's homes

00:56:43.120 since 2003. In 2006,

00:56:46.040 there were concerns that groups of offenders

00:56:47.400 were targeting children at secondary schools,

00:56:49.840 one girl referred to as Child X

00:56:51.840 fell into their clutches when she was 12 years old.

00:56:54.500 By 14, she'd been abused by 300 men

00:56:56.660 and became addicted to crack and heroin.

00:56:59.140 There was another victim as well.

00:57:00.740 See, this is the thing.

00:57:01.680 It's just, sorry, just...

00:57:02.520 Please.

00:57:02.560 But there are tens of thousands of child rapists

00:57:06.540 at large in these communities right now.

00:57:09.680 And they seamlessly reintegrate

00:57:10.940 after being let out of prison.

00:57:11.860 Tens of thousands.

00:57:13.040 Yeah, but the ones who don't get arrested

00:57:14.820 the hundreds of like

00:57:16.680 who have abused her

00:57:17.580 okay the ringleaders

00:57:18.420 the people who are

00:57:19.100 prostituting and torturing her

00:57:20.320 okay they've been arrested

00:57:21.340 okay but there are

00:57:22.100 tens of thousands of them

00:57:23.180 who have you know

00:57:24.320 each raped these children

00:57:26.040 can we go up

00:57:27.140 no of course we can't

00:57:27.960 nothing will ever happen

00:57:28.880 to these men

00:57:29.360 well here's a horrible

00:57:30.160 here's a horrible example

00:57:31.020 of that exact phenomena

00:57:32.040 caused by Greater Manchester Police

00:57:33.560 so one victim referred to

00:57:35.180 in Operation Messenger

00:57:36.120 which was the local

00:57:37.080 investigation into

00:57:38.260 grooming in Oldham

00:57:38.980 was Samantha Roberts

00:57:40.300 Samantha Walker Roberts

00:57:41.240 her case was detailed

00:57:42.460 by Peter McLaughlin

00:57:43.220 back in Easy Meat

00:57:44.140 in 2006 when she was 12 she was abducted by two pakistani men who drove her around oldham for

00:57:49.160 hours in the taxi trade they abused her they then threw out the moving car she ran away and asked

00:57:54.740 another man for help he invited her inside then dragged her upstairs and assaulted her she ran

00:58:00.040 away from him at that point a taxi driver pulled up beside her after she was okay and picked her up

00:58:05.320 and he said he was going to take her to the police station he then took samantha to a house and

00:58:09.940 inside they locked her in a room with five men who went on to abuse her over and over the ring

00:58:14.960 leader of that particular gang is a name called shaquille chowdhury he received three year sentence

00:58:20.560 i mean how is it possible that you can run into so many different rapists with so many people

00:58:28.420 prepared to rape a kid like over and over and over that's just the most nightmarish thing

00:58:34.040 I've ever heard

00:58:35.560 and that particular case

00:58:36.820 always sticks in my mind

00:58:38.060 because it's just

00:58:39.320 unbelievable.

00:58:41.280 The police doesn't want

00:58:42.460 to be called racist.

00:58:44.320 Well, or they're involved.

00:58:44.960 It doesn't want to be accused of it.

00:58:46.140 Yeah, or they're involved.

00:58:46.920 In many instances,

00:58:47.820 the police officers

00:58:48.340 are also part of the drug gangs

00:58:49.760 or part of the actual

00:58:51.020 child abuse gangs.

00:58:52.520 They point out

00:58:53.360 that Chowdhury was convicted

00:58:56.000 but vital forensic evidence

00:58:59.960 that could have helped

00:59:00.580 trace the suspects

00:59:02.240 was destroyed

00:59:03.320 or returned to him by his solicitor.

00:59:05.840 During the trial, he actually

00:59:07.260 named two accomplices, but the

00:59:09.280 police refused to follow up.

00:59:11.380 So the police just decided not

00:59:12.960 to implicate the accomplices that Chowdhury

00:59:15.280 himself said were at the scene,

00:59:17.160 and forensic evidence went missing

00:59:18.980 while he was in custody.

00:59:20.980 So, despite this,

00:59:22.780 Samantha... This is just one case.

00:59:24.680 The hundreds and hundreds and thousands of girls

00:59:27.380 who have all been subject to

00:59:29.000 mass gang rapes by people in these communities.

00:59:31.920 Just, the scale

00:59:33.200 of the problem is just

00:59:34.420 unbelievable. Despite this, the police decided

00:59:37.200 to go after Samantha.

00:59:38.880 Samantha and her deceased husband

00:59:41.000 decided to become independent investigators

00:59:43.280 and try and identify these perpetrators and actually

00:59:45.200 try and bring them to justice. Instead, the

00:59:47.220 Greater Manchester Police tried to hound them, say

00:59:49.160 they took the law into their own hands and they were acting as vigilantes.

00:59:51.680 Maybe you should do your jobs then.

00:59:53.420 Yeah. Greater Manchester Police has since

00:59:55.240 said the way she was treated by officers was far from the

00:59:57.200 standard survivors can expect

00:59:59.260 from Greater Manchester Police today.

01:00:01.700 Unfortunately, under Andy Barnum, we will

01:00:03.160 find out we have changed ourselves trust us gov yeah yeah yeah so burnham commissioned a review

01:00:09.340 into oldham specifically in 2019 it published its findings in 2022 and they actually found that in

01:00:14.360 one case uh the the team at oldham they obviously found that great magister police had you know let

01:00:18.900 down survivors and ignored concerns and all these things but one of the one of the instances found

01:00:23.200 that oldham council had actually employed one of the perpetrators he was between 1989 1988 and 2006

01:00:30.960 a welfare rights officer

01:00:32.920 seconded to the Oldham Pakistani

01:00:34.940 Community Centre. In 2012, he was found

01:00:37.060 guilty of two rapes, aiding and abetting rape, sexual

01:00:39.080 assault and trafficking for the purposes of

01:00:40.980 exploitation and sentenced to 19 years

01:00:43.240 imprisonment. And then in

01:00:44.960 2012, he was found guilty of

01:00:46.960 an additional 30 rape charges and

01:00:49.000 jailed for another 22 years.

01:00:50.880 And the Greater Manchester Police think that there's nothing

01:00:52.900 to investigate in Oldham Council.

01:00:55.660 Because of course... Who's got the bad egg?

01:00:57.020 What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah. Just one bad egg?

01:00:59.260 One person. Just one person.

01:01:00.960 Like, we found these structural flaws, systemic failures.

01:01:05.120 Okay, well, who was held to account?

01:01:06.560 Who was fired?

01:01:07.940 Like, who was fired?

01:01:09.460 Like, if it's systematic, the people involved need to get fired.

01:01:14.020 It's almost like only native Westerners can ever be blameworthy for anything.

01:01:19.380 Yeah, but there was that white guy that raped a Sikh woman

01:01:21.680 and shouted about Islam while he did it, and he got life in prison.

01:01:24.480 Now, again, hang him for all I can.

01:01:25.940 Sure, sure, but it doesn't go both ways.

01:01:27.980 obvious that he was made an example of while the other perpetrators of the disproportionate

01:01:33.780 demographic that commits these racialized crimes are either given light sentences or never

01:01:39.360 investigated in the first place and you say who faced accountability for this because of course

01:01:43.480 Andy Burnham touts his series of inquiries he's got an entire timeline of it on the Greater

01:01:48.200 Manchester Combined Authority website um are you willing to place bets for how many people

01:01:52.700 oh I would say zero I would put good money on right yeah of course so so Burnham

01:01:57.960 timeline that he's putting forward to bolster his credibility ahead of trying to run for MP

01:02:03.940 in Makerfield and then become Prime Minister, is that he was elected Mayor of Greater Manchester

01:02:07.620 on the 8th of May 2017. On the 16th of May, the BBC broadcast Three Girls, which is the

01:02:12.800 dramatisation of real accounts by women that were abused predominantly in Rochdale, but obviously

01:02:17.840 trafficked around. Then on July the 3rd, The Betrayed Girls was released, which is when they

01:02:23.280 dropped their anonymity and so after that he commissioned an investigation into the greater

01:02:29.520 manchester combined authority it it took until 2022 for the second report the independent review

01:02:39.320 to be published it's by malcolm newsome and gary ridgeway and they found the historic safeguarding

01:02:46.040 practices in oldham investigating concerns raised online about local taxi services and the targeting

01:02:50.620 of children in residential care settings, and through shisha establishments between 2011 and

01:02:54.600 2014, they identified serious failings in the handling of some of the cases, here we go,

01:03:01.320 and found that some children had been failed by the agencies that were meant to protect them

01:03:04.400 because safeguarding procedures had not been properly followed, or of course they were like

01:03:07.580 actively selling the girls to the gangs, so you know, soft peddling the rhetoric. However,

01:03:13.000 the team found no evidence, either through interviews or documentary review,

01:03:16.640 to suggest that senior managers or counsellors

01:03:19.240 sought to cover up the existence of child sexual exploitation.

01:03:22.400 Nor was there widespread child sexual exploitation

01:03:24.320 in residential settings, in shisha bars, or the local taxi trade.

01:03:28.040 Well, you didn't find any evidence, Connor.

01:03:29.760 Yeah, I suppose you just didn't ask the girls themselves

01:03:32.220 that were abused.

01:03:34.200 Well, that's an allegation.

01:03:35.640 That's not the evidence.

01:03:36.960 We didn't investigate.

01:03:37.780 We didn't do it.

01:03:38.500 What do you want?

01:03:39.180 And has anyone been fired over these failed safeguarding procedures?

01:03:42.800 No.

01:03:43.180 If you mess up in your job, you get fired.

01:03:45.640 if they mess up in their job nothing happens and this is probably substantially worse if you mess

01:03:51.900 up in your in if they mess up in their job and this is what they put on the website to make

01:03:55.200 andy burnham look good by the way so on july the 22nd burnham wrote an open letter to the

01:03:59.840 residents of oldham outlining the independent review's findings explaining what action was

01:04:03.820 being taken and basically said right we're gonna we're gonna take this through we're gonna see the

01:04:07.220 procedure through but as you said nobody in social services the police or oldham council

01:04:11.720 have actually been held to account the government of course with jess phillips uh tried to block

01:04:16.200 the government's backing of a local inquiry in oldham because actually that the council was so

01:04:20.060 split it's now a reform and independent-led council it was a labor-led council the council

01:04:24.240 was so split they found themselves incapable of conducting an independent inquiry and asked the

01:04:27.780 government to step in and jess phillips dragged her feet while she was still safeguarding minister

01:04:30.900 responded late and said no thanks and this letter was published coinciding with the renewed awareness

01:04:37.220 about the grooming gang scandal last year which is why jess phillips tried to make the entire story

01:04:40.840 about how elon musk had victimized her with hurty words at the same time a woman called aruj shah

01:04:47.980 was the leader of oldham council and she was writing in the labor list about how the far

01:04:52.580 right are hijacking this narrative she actually had the gall after she was um booted out with

01:04:57.820 the local elections to write another piece in the guardian give an interview say toxic identity

01:05:02.020 politics is tearing us apart division is not what places like oldham need no they need public

01:05:06.700 hangings actually um but it's conspicuous so she was in charge of labor council in oldham during

01:05:12.760 this massive cover-up during a time period where labor controlled the council and actually hired

01:05:17.040 a child rapist as part of the council weirdly though um harriet harman who of course is famous

01:05:22.160 for producing the equality act who is famous for working with liberty when they were working with

01:05:25.840 the paedophile information exchange who has just been appointed kirstama's czar on women and girls

01:05:30.080 She wants to put her in the House of Lords.

01:05:32.960 She tweets publicly.

01:05:33.940 Oh, yes!

01:05:35.460 See, I didn't know who she was.

01:05:38.280 The leader of Oldham Council.

01:05:41.880 Well, there we go.

01:05:42.880 Yeah.

01:05:43.260 Just a question, Andy.

01:05:44.400 Are you going to keep Harriet Harman in place?

01:05:46.740 Are you going to oversee this Lord shortlist

01:05:48.720 that's going to put Aruj Shah in the Lords

01:05:51.220 if you decide to become Prime Minister?

01:05:53.920 Just a conspicuous question.

01:05:56.640 But then there's some holes in his timeline.

01:05:58.480 We start with 2019.

01:05:59.740 when Maggie Oliver decided to speak

01:06:01.700 to the Telegraph about this, she highlighted

01:06:03.620 that there were some irregular findings in the panel

01:06:05.600 that didn't quite map up to some of the

01:06:07.420 conclusions that were drawn from

01:06:09.640 the first round. Giving evidence

01:06:11.580 to the report panel, Detective Superintendent

01:06:13.200 said that creating

01:06:15.660 further community cohesions did not influence

01:06:17.640 any of his investigative decisions,

01:06:19.600 but the impact, quote, clearly had to be considered

01:06:21.480 by senior officers in the Goal Command Group.

01:06:23.780 But the report itself quotes an unnamed

01:06:25.860 Greater Manchester Police Detective Constable,

01:06:27.720 again reporting directly to Andy Burnham involved in the arrest and jailing of one child offender

01:06:33.020 who was not of Asian heritage and he said what had a massive input was the offending target group

01:06:39.080 with predominantly Asian males and we were told to try to get other ethnicities. Now this comes

01:06:43.680 back to David Lammy's point that actually it's about producing the same outcome for each group

01:06:49.260 and so different groups will be treated differently and it comes back to your point is

01:06:52.340 the crime actually doesn't matter it doesn't matter what actually was done what matters is

01:06:58.880 the spreadsheet equaling out at the end of it and this is a perfect example of exactly those points

01:07:04.200 that you guys have been making in in rotherham the casey report said that the councillors were

01:07:09.100 predominantly concerned with the something like the quote flourishing of the pakistani community

01:07:13.800 so if if negative press is generated by them raping children then of course they won't want

01:07:18.680 generate negative press and so they won't actually arrest

01:07:20.580 it. Well it conceptually creates the

01:07:22.620 division. If you can't think about division

01:07:24.280 and the crimes don't matter

01:07:26.480 then you just have to accept that this is a characteristic

01:07:28.880 of your life now.

01:07:30.620 They'll tell you it's a feature, it's not a bug.

01:07:33.020 Exactly. So in 2024

01:07:34.480 they released another report under Burnham

01:07:36.460 and they focused on 111

01:07:38.620 cases in Rochdale between 2004

01:07:40.540 and 2013 and they concluded

01:07:42.640 that essentially the Greater Manchester Police

01:07:44.800 had ignored all of

01:07:46.680 the victims there were systematic failings in safeguarding and they found that all of maggie

01:07:51.280 oliver's complaints as a former detective for greater manchester police that operational guster

01:07:55.560 had been closed down too quickly were substantiated and again not one person lost their jobs for this

01:08:02.020 um instead the probe into why they closed down operational guster was prematurely closed

01:08:08.400 they they decided to say that and this is in the bbc article um it had obtained the iopc had

01:08:14.340 obtained a significant amount of evidence as part of its investigation, but that there was no

01:08:18.140 indication the officer had breached standards, and it was unable to determine who took the final

01:08:22.140 decision to close down Operation Augusta in 2005, and didn't know the rationale for doing so,

01:08:27.340 Burnham said he was very disappointed with this inconclusive and inadequate investigation,

01:08:31.520 adding the victims have sadly been let down again. If only you were the mayor of Greater

01:08:35.380 Manchester, Andy, and you could have done something about it. If only you were the police

01:08:39.180 and crime commissioner who could immediately replace the entire top brass of Greater Manchester

01:08:44.140 police yeah if only you weren't the guy in charge god if only you weren't campaigning on this being

01:08:49.540 your record and it being a good thing yeah it's kind of annoying for you that we have all the

01:08:53.300 headlines that found all of the failures that went through and then in 2024 when the final report was

01:08:59.440 brought forward um chief constable stephen watson of greater manchester police has said that the

01:09:03.640 officers responsible and identified as having failed the victims were not going to be punished

01:09:09.320 they said to this extent we have not found as yet evidence to substantiate holding anyone

01:09:14.980 criminally culpable for this professional failing it is more systemic and it is that we have

01:09:20.100 addressed and that is what this report reflects as if people don't operate the system the system

01:09:25.900 is something beyond the people who are owning operating and living within it amazing and the

01:09:31.060 people buttressing it and making excuses for it ultimately responsible for the outcomes making

01:09:35.180 the decisions themselves, but

01:09:37.220 okay, yeah, so no one needs to be punished.

01:09:39.300 So then the final report was published by His Majesty's

01:09:41.660 Inspectorate of Constabulary and

01:09:43.480 Fire and Rescue Services. It was delayed.

01:09:45.700 It was late. It lightly

01:09:47.340 missed failings by the Greater Manchester Police

01:09:49.240 because Manchester City Council provided them with some documents

01:09:51.660 that were so heavily redacted they couldn't actually read them.

01:09:54.860 So,

01:09:55.380 there were sections, as it says,

01:09:57.260 City Council heavily redacted pages of evidence

01:09:59.260 and that they actually could not

01:10:01.520 read some of the pages because loads of things

01:10:03.640 were crossed out it reminds me of the document that louise casey had for her 2025 audit where

01:10:07.560 she said that the word pakistani was tipexed out on multiple pages so yet again this is something

01:10:13.100 that happened under annie burnham he hasn't held any account for it rules for different communities

01:10:17.140 in order to produce an equal outcome if the white community in oldham is not conducting

01:10:22.640 grooming gangs of children to the same rate that the pakistani community is well we have to fudge

01:10:28.220 the figures to get the correct outcome and this is exactly what maggie oliver has criticized him

01:10:32.980 for last month when she was interviewed by The Times when Burnham was announced as the

01:10:36.460 candidate. People were asking if she was going to run, but she said, I'd rather focus on

01:10:39.520 my charitable work to help survivors. Very respectable. And she just said, Burnham failed

01:10:43.320 to grasp the nettle on the grooming gangs. She's being very diplomatic. I say he had

01:10:47.340 all the powers to hold Greater Manchester Police to account, and instead he just kept

01:10:50.300 announcing various inquiries to kick the can down the road, and didn't bring any consequences

01:10:54.800 to bear on the police that knew about it, and went about arresting white offenders instead

01:10:59.800 of Pakistanis, rather than just arresting them both.

01:11:02.460 The thing is, though, as soon as you start digging into the subject, you realise that these are Labour-controlled areas, Labour-controlled councils, Labour constituencies, Labour councils, the police and all that are very closely intertwined with the Labour power structure, and there is just no one else to place the blame on other than the Labour Party itself.

01:11:24.380 Quite, and their client groups.

01:11:25.500 And, yeah, of course, the climate, but, like, the ultimate responsibility is the Labour Party.

01:11:30.400 There's just no one else to point fingers at in these constituencies.

01:11:33.960 And so, of course, Andy Burnham's like, I'm here to save the Labour Party.

01:11:37.700 Yeah, weirdly, I didn't do a deep dig into the Labour Party's failings in the grooming gangs

01:11:42.800 and the fact that we've inflicted this on our own constituents who, for some reason, still vote for us generation after generation.

01:11:49.200 We're not going to do any of that.

01:11:50.840 I'm going to try and replace Keir Starmer in order to keep the Labour Party afloat.

01:11:54.660 It's like, yeah, you're not going to get any kind of accountability

01:11:57.120 out of someone like Andy Burnham, a career Labour Party politician.

01:12:01.620 Oh, you foreshadowed my conclusion.

01:12:03.080 Oh, sorry.

01:12:03.800 No, no, no.

01:12:04.900 Because some of the details...

01:12:06.360 Because Andy Burnham is such a boring individual.

01:12:07.900 Yeah, he is, dull.

01:12:08.980 His career might have slipped through the cracks for some people.

01:12:11.340 Pure Labour apparatchik.

01:12:12.640 Yeah, so while he's been defending his personal record as Mayor of Greater Manchester,

01:12:15.500 I thought we'd just briefly look at the end at his record

01:12:17.640 when he was going around all the government departments and various Labour leaders.

01:12:21.560 He was all sorts of things to all sorts of people who worked under Blair

01:12:24.460 and brown and the joke that goes around yeah even jeremy corbyn and ed milliband but his first

01:12:29.560 significant role after being elected as mp for lee in 2001 was when he served as parliamentary

01:12:35.960 undersecretary um under david blunkett as home secretary and david blunkett is famous for for

01:12:42.380 many things one of course being an mp for sheffield while the grooming gangs were operating in

01:12:46.200 sheffield but two because he consistently tried to criminalize religious hatred in the aftermath

01:12:51.700 in response to 9-11 based on the advice of the Muslim Council of Britain.

01:12:57.160 The system leaps to defend Muslims after 9-11.

01:12:59.900 Yeah.

01:13:00.920 Andy Burnham was working for him when he revived that effort from 2001 in 2005

01:13:07.580 with the government's third attempt to outlaw religious incitement to hatred

01:13:12.180 with clauses included in the Anti-Terrorism Crime and Security Bill

01:13:16.200 and the Serious Organised Crimes Bill.

01:13:18.520 um they they had tried to bring forward basically the the criminalization of islamophobia after the

01:13:23.640 running me trust introduced the idea into britain in 1997 or when when tony blair won the election

01:13:29.420 so andy burnham was working under david blunkett to advance an islamophobia bill advised by the

01:13:35.600 muslim council britain the muslim council britain are an organization according to the uk government

01:13:39.060 connected to the muslim brotherhood who are responsible in 2023 for the ipso complaint

01:13:42.840 against suella braveman when she wrote that the majority of the perpetrators of this abuse

01:13:47.400 are men with British-Pakistani heritage,

01:13:52.220 British-Pakistanis, they're just Pakistani.

01:13:54.200 The Ipso complaint actually went through.

01:13:56.340 No, no, no. Legally, they are British.

01:13:58.060 But administratively, they have a British passport.

01:14:00.280 That can be undone.

01:14:01.220 I agree, but the point is,

01:14:03.180 it's not wrong to say they're British-Pakistani

01:14:05.800 in the administrative sense.

01:14:08.940 Yes. Nevertheless, that was struck from the record

01:14:12.040 from the Daily Mail, because they caved to the complaint

01:14:13.980 that the Muslim Council of Britain brought forward against them.

01:14:16.800 So, these people have been a consistent force

01:14:18.960 to silence conversations about the grooming gangs

01:14:20.700 despite knowing they've been going on.

01:14:23.020 And yet, Burnham and David Blunkett

01:14:25.720 were basically acting on their instruction

01:14:27.240 to try to criminalise discussions of it.

01:14:30.400 And then, when he was running for Mayor of Greater Manchester,

01:14:32.860 when he was sitting on Jeremy Corbyn's front bench...

01:14:35.960 I think the British term is standing.

01:14:38.680 Sorry, I...

01:14:39.120 There we go. Standing, you're correct.

01:14:40.360 I do hate it.

01:14:41.340 That's okay.

01:14:42.020 Sort of seeped in.

01:14:43.120 I know. Everyone does it.

01:14:44.620 I watch the Times podcast, and they're like,

01:14:46.800 Oh, he's running for this sake. Oh, my God. Sorry, go on.

01:14:49.320 No, that's fine. So, Standpoint magazine is now defunct,

01:14:51.560 but they ran an article, basically, on Raikou and Dame Sara Khan,

01:14:55.160 whose sister ran the Don't Look Back in Anger department.

01:14:57.540 She produced the Union Jack Kajab that went on the front page of The Sun.

01:15:00.660 Anyway, buried in here is a tale somewhere about Andy Burnham

01:15:05.700 appearing on a panel alongside, I think it was a member from MEND.

01:15:11.640 he went on a panel alongside the head of MEND and said

01:15:17.920 Prevent, the Prevent duty, to report extremist behaviour today

01:15:21.540 is today's equivalent of internment in Northern Ireland.

01:15:26.040 So he was saying that because Prevent focuses on Islamic terror

01:15:29.860 it's basically the same as the Irish Troubles.

01:15:32.940 The proportions are justifiable?

01:15:37.240 Well, it just so happens that because of sustained pressure by Islamic activist groups

01:15:40.700 the proportions are much lower for the amount of terror being committed by Muslims that are being

01:15:43.840 monitored by Prevent. And so I just wanted to finish on this. Remember, if Andy Burnham becomes

01:15:47.860 Prime Minister, he's going to be overseeing the limited grooming gang inquiries after engaging

01:15:53.080 in essentially a cover-up during his time as Mayor of Greater Manchester, and the Home Office

01:15:57.760 is going to be conducting it on his behalf, are run by over 700 Islamic activists, some of whom,

01:16:03.820 according to this story, have a brother and a school friend in ISIS, and when they recognise

01:16:10.180 them in ISIS training materials that are played to the seminar for civil servants, they laugh and

01:16:15.160 go, I know him, he goes to my school, and if you focus on Islamic terror, you're a racist. So Andy

01:16:21.140 Burnham's record on the grooming gangs has been one of consistent cover-up, and if he becomes

01:16:25.340 Prime Minister, I don't think that this grooming gang inquiry is going to do any more justice for

01:16:30.580 the victims. Let's play the video comments please, Samson. Cranky Texan says, if you can't get the

01:16:38.180 christian community to adopt the values of foreign communities you have to criminalize the values of

01:16:41.740 the christian community uh but that's essentially what they've done at this point uh go and pray in

01:16:46.420 your head outside the abortion clinic um or don't actually of course because that's a that's a

01:16:51.280 violation of the law sorry it's ridiculous uh david bett said the grooming gang scandal will

01:16:56.000 probably be the thing that kicks off the second english civil war better get ready um i don't

01:17:00.220 agree uh it's been going on for a long time i think actually people are sadly inured to it

01:17:04.580 I don't think people are going to cause any trouble out of them.

01:17:08.180 Let's go over to the video comments.

01:17:10.680 And now the Lerp rally has come to an end.

01:17:13.680 And as you can see, we've cleaned out beer that we brought in.

01:17:20.980 Right now, we all are sitting around in our final meeting

01:17:25.180 and we are drinking ourselves into oblivion using various bourbons,

01:17:29.880 buying whiskies, and of course, a lot of good old-fashioned moonshine.

01:17:37.560 Isn't that haram for the occupants of the rooms next door?

01:17:41.760 I hope you had a good time. Let's go to the next one.

01:17:44.780 When I said Stephen Hill was a Tory, I wasn't joking. He was a Tory.

01:17:50.700 He served the campaign from 1996 to 2010.

01:17:54.240 Then he was the head presser carry from 2010 to 2012 for Damon Cameron.

01:17:59.120 then he was one of the main architects

01:18:01.740 of the Blair Revolution

01:18:03.260 inside the Conservative Party

01:18:05.000 then he did the exact same thing

01:18:06.960 inside the Lib Dems

01:18:09.000 then he came to America

01:18:10.000 and he didn't renounce his membership of the party

01:18:12.000 until last year when he was forced to

01:18:14.980 I don't have any context

01:18:17.800 I'm wearing my context hat

01:18:18.960 yeah well he's a conservative activist

01:18:21.920 who's now on Fox News

01:18:22.960 oh no I just meant the previous

01:18:24.260 is he running for governor of California

01:18:26.860 let me check

01:18:27.920 i don't know i don't think i was on the podcast yeah let me let me just tell you in a by the way

01:18:34.480 the chat is asking for a white pill so may have to come up with some ideas we're horrified

01:18:40.700 i don't know have we got any good news today today is not a good news day i'm afraid chat

01:18:46.560 yeah and steven steve hilden is a republican candidate for california oh great yeah don't

01:18:53.100 vote for him folks i i exhausted all my good news a few weeks ago you can see my pinned tweet

01:18:57.040 yeah um yeah yeah it's good news um let's go to the next video comment let's hope this is

01:19:02.400 sketchbook time batman edition oh cool

01:19:06.400 batman my favorite batman character is two-face tell me about yours in the chats and tell me what

01:19:20.160 you want to see me draw next they're really good they're fantastic they're better than all the

01:19:25.440 current map for action designs um i have a very contentious opinion which is that two faces only

01:19:29.820 good stories are origin stories and then all of his concurrent running villain stories are just

01:19:34.140 gimmicks i'm i'm so terribly tired of origin stories though like every time oh we've got a

01:19:39.180 new batman great here's a new oh jesus christ we're a new villain you know his mother was born

01:19:43.540 kevin says uh give the police space to carry an investigation so that justice can be done

01:19:49.240 also they can rewrite it to make it look like the victim was the aggressor like they tried to do

01:19:53.060 with henry uh yeah that's i mean just remember everything about the system is designed to

01:19:58.420 protect the minority group everything is designed to stigmatize and persecute the majority group

01:20:02.980 that's the only thing you need to remember really lars says division was sown by those who created

01:20:07.460 a two-tier justice system we are resentful of being forced to harvest their poison fruits

01:20:11.620 totally true mason says belfast police seized the victim's phone they haven't done this but next

01:20:18.760 Belfast police seize the victim's phone

01:20:20.980 and hope they can find a racism

01:20:22.340 and say the diversity was provoked

01:20:23.900 I mean, genuinely

01:20:25.040 I'm looking forward to what they say

01:20:28.840 is the reason that this Sudanese man

01:20:31.560 did what he did in Belfast

01:20:33.900 I won't see what their excuse is

01:20:36.380 Nick Shirley's investigative journalism?

01:20:38.340 Yeah, no, I think they'll say

01:20:39.540 like with the Nottingham stabber

01:20:42.720 what's his name?

01:20:43.240 Aldo Calakian

01:20:43.740 Mental Health

01:20:44.840 Yeah, they'll just say Mental Health

01:20:46.220 because they were just like

01:20:47.220 okay, we just

01:20:48.480 If we put up a hand and say, well, it's mental health,

01:20:50.520 we have to do no further investigation into this.

01:20:53.240 You know, oh, he was just mad.

01:20:54.300 So why was he on our streets then?

01:20:55.600 Don't talk about the 10 times rate of psychosis

01:20:58.340 that blacks have against whites.

01:20:59.660 And with Valdir Calacan.

01:21:00.680 He had multiple interactions with the authorities,

01:21:06.920 and they knew that he was mad,

01:21:07.820 and they let him out in the streets anyway.

01:21:09.120 It's like, no, no, this is not going to be this guy's first interaction

01:21:13.240 with the powers that be, I imagine.

01:21:16.340 It's very interesting.

01:21:17.260 said they're totally up front with the nationality of the attacker in Belfast. They know they

01:21:20.900 can't sweep this one away. Yeah, there's a huge amount of public pressure just on every

01:21:24.840 one of these cases now, which will obviously keep up, you know, keep up the pressure. Also

01:21:30.220 reports of mass rose closures, so they know the protests are happening. Hopefully protests

01:21:33.680 can avoid any clashes. Yeah, sure, but the protests are out of our hands. I don't think

01:21:37.060 you should go and protest. I don't think it's going to help. But what do I know? You know,

01:21:41.820 it's not my choice. I'm old enough to remember when these atrocities only happened once a

01:21:46.660 year and i'm not even 30 uh carl the elder is old enough to remember these atrocities never

01:21:51.620 happened yeah this just never happened i'd never i mean like when i was young it was um what the

01:21:58.600 the uh shooting in the school by the guy uh don't blame masker yeah don't blame masker that was the

01:22:04.500 the thing that was like my god you know this has never happened before it's never happened since

01:22:08.900 now there's a stabbing of three today in a manchester school yeah and now it's just multiple

01:22:12.900 times per day yeah now it's a day yeah multiple times a day daily event and so it's just like

01:22:17.220 yeah i mean this these things were remarkable in that they were so rare and now look where we are

01:22:24.740 um richard says it's like britain being at war and the other side is committing horrible crimes

01:22:28.940 but the authority is telling you not to notice i mean that's that's literally what the colonial

01:22:33.000 system in somewhere like algeria or south africa or wherever else was it literally designed to

01:22:39.300 prevent the natives from understanding that

01:22:41.380 they are being oppressed, and to

01:22:43.460 protect the people doing the oppressing. But even then,

01:22:45.420 when we were running that system, we were far more benevolent.

01:22:48.000 Yeah.

01:22:49.060 I mean, the French and Algeria were not great.

01:22:51.340 Yeah, I mean, in terms of the South Africans,

01:22:53.700 the Indians... In South Africa

01:22:55.420 it wasn't great either. In India it was way better.

01:22:57.760 Way better. Given how the South Africans

01:22:59.580 behaved, I think

01:23:01.540 fortunately it was probably better.

01:23:03.240 There's no point relitigating it, but the point

01:23:05.480 is, either way

01:23:07.800 you don't want to be the receiving end of the colonial system right it's never good um so

01:23:12.380 anyway tim says it's funny how andy burnham is presented by the media as akin to shakespeare's

01:23:17.040 conquering coriolanus exacting revenge on rome but is there really that much heroic tragedy

01:23:22.080 about the guy no and it's actually kind of like the i i get this kind of weird sort of

01:23:28.620 institutional sliminess from burners you know where it's it's like oh for us is an awful slogan

01:23:34.840 because it's just for us, the Labour Party.

01:23:38.160 That's why we're doing this.

01:23:39.060 We're doing this to save the Labour Party.

01:23:40.780 And it's like, I don't want to save the Labour Party.

01:23:43.020 I hate the Labour Party.

01:23:44.120 Back when Jordan Peterson was a gem machine,

01:23:46.340 he said something very insightful

01:23:47.740 about the predatory capacity of weak men.

01:23:51.660 In the, if you're trying to appear non-threatening,

01:23:54.680 you actually give people the heebie-jeebies.

01:23:56.200 And that's what I get from Burnham.

01:23:57.420 Like, he's got the build of Bill Gates

01:23:59.660 and he tries to come across as, you know,

01:24:01.120 he's playing like Elbow and Oasis

01:24:02.620 and he's like, oh, I'm just Andy, you know, I'm your friend.

01:24:04.300 And it's like, yeah, but your cowardice and your careerism has caused thousands of children to be raped,

01:24:12.440 and the people that committed it and their accomplices in the institutions that covered it up have never been held to account.

01:24:18.160 So you are directly responsible for that chain of events, but you're dressing it up in, oh, I'm just hapless Andy, I'm your friend.

01:24:25.360 But also, for us, we want to save the Labour Party.

01:24:27.960 It's like, the Labour Party, the people who have done this to us, they are literally our oppressors.

01:24:32.160 they instantiated the system they changed the conservative party in order to be like themselves

01:24:37.300 and now we've got keir starmer and you arguing over who is oppressing us correctly it's like

01:24:44.620 sorry no i'm not i'm not for any of it not for any of it like god uh jimbo says i like the way

01:24:50.400 the official line at the moment is acknowledging that what they have done to us is divisive

01:24:53.800 yeah and that's literally where we're at at this point to be honest it's mad uh richard says the

01:25:00.660 left can flourish when the country is wealthy when the country is not rich the right becomes

01:25:03.680 the popular idea sadly we're getting poorer so like most of europe the right is gaining power

01:25:07.520 it's not just about poverty though it's something psychic and spiritual that's going on um the the

01:25:13.520 dispossession of our country by the institutional forces and foreign people is what's causing the

01:25:19.260 right did you see eric kaufman's piece in the telegraph about um how long will white rage

01:25:23.480 persist so no i didn't so it was it was a very good article it did a load of um good polling in

01:25:28.720 and he found that 70% of reform voters

01:25:32.060 find their white racial identity is important to them.

01:25:35.400 And he pointed out that even if reform passed

01:25:38.140 an abolished two-tier justice act,

01:25:41.520 it would only be a temporary stopgap

01:25:43.240 because this salience of your identity being important to you

01:25:47.240 is a product of demographics

01:25:48.540 and it's just these are the sort of fissures

01:25:51.160 where the incompatibility of these two demographic groups

01:25:55.060 flares up,

01:25:55.840 But the slow recession of us into a demographic minority

01:25:59.600 means that the salience of that identity has increased.

01:26:03.300 So the idea where...

01:26:06.160 I've completely lost my train of thought.

01:26:10.000 It becomes salient because the nature of the demographics

01:26:13.160 is in your face, whether you like it or not.

01:26:14.620 So even if you were to fix two-tier policing,

01:26:17.080 this would still be the conversation.

01:26:18.880 Even if you fixed poverty, even if everyone were rich,

01:26:21.700 this would still be the problem.

01:26:22.600 Yeah.

01:26:23.240 And this is something I've noticed in my own life

01:26:25.640 with my own children they are just aware that they aren't muslims or hindus or whoever because

01:26:31.680 these are the groups that they see in their schools it's just you can pretend that these

01:26:36.620 divisions don't exist but they very clearly do they matter to the other groups they should matter

01:26:40.860 to you um the greatest silver lining in all of this is that more and more people are no longer

01:26:47.040 watching the mainstream media they understand what the truth is because the situation on the

01:26:50.040 ground is so bad they can no longer be denied and yeah i mean that is an upside is that you know the

01:26:55.180 hyper-narrative of the media

01:26:56.920 is getting weaker and weaker and weaker every

01:26:59.320 day. Omar says,

01:27:01.100 I bet my bottom dollar none involved would have had the

01:27:03.220 stones to erase evidence outside of procedure,

01:27:05.740 so I'm sure there's some nugget of

01:27:07.140 regulatory bollocks that mandates the destruction

01:27:09.160 of files if they

01:27:10.460 decide not to prosecute, like a GDPR

01:27:13.140 for gang rapists. I actually don't think that is

01:27:15.220 necessarily the case, because the

01:27:17.140 risky business office in

01:27:19.020 Bradford was

01:27:21.320 broken into, raided, had all

01:27:23.260 their stuff disappear, and the police just

01:27:25.100 didn't bother there was also a police officer who i think was a whistleblower on the gangs

01:27:29.240 who was mysteriously killed and hit and run and again the person was never brought to justice

01:27:32.420 so i do think this is actually sort of like a criminal enterprise to deliberately destroy the

01:27:37.000 evidence i mean it's entirely possible i really wouldn't rule it out uh imperium welder says it

01:27:43.740 has been so hard not fed post this entire podcast well i appreciate your restraint yeah sorry about

01:27:48.000 buddy um yeah sorry that it's also bad news today but like we've got to work with this the the things

01:27:55.400 that are happening around us in the system as it is right um i don't know who i hate more the

01:27:59.380 foreigners raping and murdering our people or the police that defend and abuse us um well the

01:28:03.540 politicians the problem here i mean it's the whole thing the whole thing is the problem like this is

01:28:08.480 the colonial structure that is keeping us under its heel um but i mean honestly though right there's

01:28:14.860 there's a part of us that should be in some way grateful that the the distinctions are being

01:28:19.880 becoming visible right because like 20 years ago these distinctions were not visible even though

01:28:25.400 all the systems were in place at this time right like like you with the Andy Burnham stuff in 2005

01:28:31.220 like these the mindset was all there the intention was all there the covering up of the grooming

01:28:36.920 gangs was all there the procedure of putting this into law and reifying it in the country was all

01:28:42.680 there or is in is in process but now we can actually see it as distant from ourselves we

01:28:48.200 can see us versus them and when something terrible happens Keir Starmer comes out and is essentially

01:28:54.000 saying I'm here to defend the minorities and it's okay that's I like honesty I like it when they

01:29:00.500 come out and actually declare their colors for one side or the other right and he did it in Southport

01:29:05.000 he did it in Southampton and he's going to do it here and so it's good that we have this level of

01:29:10.540 honesty very good um arizona desert rat said my question in these documentaries did they actually

01:29:15.960 accurately represent the race and ethnicities of the abusers in the 2017 documentary in the bbc

01:29:21.460 ones yes it caused the terror attack on uh the mosque yes yeah you're right yeah finsbury park

01:29:26.620 mosque what the one they didn't was um my dangerous lover boy which was an information

01:29:30.360 film that was funded i think by the home office for a charity uh where they depicted a uh a mixed

01:29:35.300 race girl being the the target of gang grooming it's like oh okay i mean don't get wrong there

01:29:39.520 probably have been mixed race girls being targeted but overwhelmingly not of course of course uh

01:29:44.480 anyway right we are at the end there so connor where can people find more from you they can

01:29:48.120 just find me on my youtube channel under my name on my x account sub stack under my name and i'll

01:29:52.160 be back on friday excellent well thank you for joining us folks try to have a better day uh than

01:29:57.520 this the people who we have to cover on our podcast uh don't let it get to you because at

01:30:01.940 the end of the day we are going to win come and restore britain we're going to win see you tomorrow

01:30:09.520 Thank you.

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 09, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1436

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