The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1437
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Summary
The Lotus Eaters are back talking about the recent events in Belfast and the reaction of the police to the latest sentencing of one of the most infamous killers in the history of Belfast. We discuss the reaction to the sentence, the way the police handled the situation and the video footage of the protests.
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 1437. It is Wednesday. Is it Wednesday?
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No, I think it's Wednesday. It's Wednesday the 10th of June. My notes say something different
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because I forgot to update it. Year of our Lord, 2026. And today we're going to be talking
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about there was a spot of bother in Belfast. Nothing much, but we'll cover the little bit
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that happened um carmelo anthony's sentencing yes and i'm gonna we're gonna talk about the
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sentencing i think it's too lenient but we're also gonna have some fun with the videos
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of the reactions yes and um um nate is gonna try and explain to parties that you're not entitled
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to people's vote because you say you are yeah just a conversation about democracy i guess
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it sounds a bit controversial though yeah some that's a bit very far right maybe
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so last night belfoot belfast pushed back hard really hard i mean this was after the brutal
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beheading attempt um i mean just just before this we we saw photos of the poor guy's face
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who's got attacked it is an absolute horror show it literally looks like a something out of a
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horror movie uh the guy's face can i can i just interject just briefly sure they were still
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moderate in their response oh yes oh yes although they push back hard this is still moderate yes
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exactly uh i think that's still really important to uh oh it could it could have gone a lot further
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and we go into that but um big protests all across belfast um you know things were torched
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and as nate rightly says this is this is still very much in the moderate sphere what was happening
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last night but for me there is something fundamentally different about what happened
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in belfast as opposed to what happened in southampton this this is the key idea i want to get
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across in this in the in southampton the protests were basically an appeal to the state yeah it was
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yeah so the protesters sought out the police and went to them and stood in front of them and show
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us you're not too tear yeah and and basically it was making a an appeal to the state saying notice
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us change it was an appeal to the police of moral framing about they were doing their kneeling in
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of the police and trying to get the police to do it as well it was like you know just act like you
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acted when it was the george floyd yeah exactly but in belfast um they went where the police
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weren't they made no attempt to appeal to the state notice us changes they avoid it they didn't
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they didn't go around filming themselves there's no they were interestingly i don't know if you're
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going to get to it they they did the complete opposite any orders they they they got rid of
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them any news there was uh yeah so there's a gb news group yeah and and they were told in no
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uncertain terms get out of here go away and they backed off a bit and then they went to them as
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again they said you're not far enough away go away so they because basically what they did in
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southampton is they is they built the prosecution's file for them yeah by filming themselves going
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around without masks queuing up in front of the police so you take the police body cam footage
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you take the live stream footage and you've got you've got the prosecution file yeah i mean that
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yeah that's this was this was um organized very much so it was methodical very smart in terms of
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everything that they were doing it feels like there's a bit of muscle memory in in belfast
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about how to how to approach there's any yeah if there's any people but but not like in south
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hampton where they sought the police out and they sought the authority out no they they they went to
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the distributed notes they went to the hmos yeah they went they went to the immigrant businesses
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they just did stuff like that and they left very low evidence trail i'd like to think that those
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guys didn't even take their phone out with them because that would have been a yeah but i i get
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the impression they did but but there was no moral signaling it was like we know that you guys hate
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us no there was okay not to the state they said they they warned white businesses you close your
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shops up by 5 30. yeah they warned everyone yes they said close your shops up because we're going
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to be out there yeah if you're a white business shut your shop so they did appeal yeah morally
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but they weren't they weren't they weren't making an appeal to the state they bypassed the state
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they bypassed the police they went they took it straight to community level of action which is it
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and it isn't it's so important because it is a sea change in a reaction to the state we know
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people have basically given up and i'm still one of these guys i'm still one of these guys and
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there's going to be like 100 comments below this saying dan's an idiot but i'm i'm still one of
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those guys thinking we can vote harder and and these guys are like yeah don't care well so we're
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not in that sphere anymore you you can appreciate what they've done from a perspective of this is
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the logical conclusion to uh people feeling like the peaceful options have been exhausted
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whilst also still wanting peaceful options to come to fruition yeah i mean i i still want that but i
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need i need the state to understand how dangerous it's getting if oh yeah if people just give up on
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politics we're in something else while while i'm talking about southampton i just mentioned this
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is that um sam mealy who had on brokonomics recently is looking to get in touch with anybody
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who um was involved in the southampton stuff and they apparently can help out with that so
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if if that's relevant to you then that might be interesting but okay what was going on in in
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belfast so i mean they were going because it's it's all local based it's all community based
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they're just turning up, put the windows through
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they're not standing there doing something performative
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this isn't uh this isn't a peaceful protest right like you know it's not just performative it's not
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asking for things it's not you're not asking for permission no no what they're doing what they're
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doing is they're changing incentive structures yeah because they're basically saying okay we
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know that voting doesn't do anything appealing to politicians or the police doesn't do anything
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so we're going to change the risk calculation for landlords and for people who are moving into this
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area who we don't want here that that's that's what they did i think i think it's really important
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to know right you know you can decry this you can also just step back and just look at the
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whole situation and go right democracy has several avenues to uh you know democracy has several
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courses that it can take there are peaceful democratic solutions and then there are non-peaceful
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democratic well the entire liberal order is based on removing any possibility of a peaceful outcome
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through the democratic means nate what you said about democracy one of the things i see here is
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that every four or five years people vote for overall agenda there is one thing that is common
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to parties of both let's say main you know rival factions like no left right traditional if they
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converge on mass migration we could get people who don't want mass migration voting for parties
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because they like their overall agenda and despite the fact that they are going to keep promoting
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mass migration now one thing to say about this first of all i don't condone vandalism
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one of the persistent themes of a rhetoric is that warnings are not threats contrary to what
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the establishment wants to say what we are saying here frequently is that if this
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policy continues especially the way it does it will disintegrate into
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the scenes we are looking at, and we don't want to look at these scenes.
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If you deprive this room of oxygen, we are going to gasp to breathe.
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What we're looking at here is this was out on the streets in the middle of Belfast.
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So this guy, for whatever reason, would have been trusted to have a camera in this situation.
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If he wasn't trusted, he wouldn't be allowed to have a camera out.
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what they're basically doing is they're going around here
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and when they're seeing a Deliveroo driver
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they're slapping the bags out of their hand
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right no one's no one's actually been harmed and there's a video circulating of someone trying to
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cut someone's head off yeah this is very tame yes people have gone to war for less now i'm not
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suggesting that is the outcome but well if you're looking at throughout all of human history yeah
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people have actually enacted wars for less well you don't you don't even need to go for all of
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history all you need to do is go to belfast in the 70s and 80s we we know what belfast looks like
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when they're not holding back we are still and and the the leftists won't believe it we are still in
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the holding back bit we bypass so it's what i'm saying that relative to what it could have been
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yeah yeah exactly so so i mean you know a whole bunch of um uh immigrant businesses turkish
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barbers that kind of stuff they they had their windows things that everyone have constantly
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these are all the things that's tame blm tame blm getting uh you know breakfast but this is still
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but this is still things which people have uh peacefully vocalized that they're against yes
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for decades people have said hey guys these turkish barbers are clearly fronts
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can you do something about it no i walk past turkish barbers all the time and i mean there's
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there's there's several that i walk past in swindon all the time they've never got any
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customers they've all got premium german automobiles outside it's like the math isn't
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math thing we know something is going on and obvious and the barbers in a shop with no customers
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yeah and and the ones that do actually have a few customers they're putting they're putting the the
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native hairdressers out of business i saw a post the other day from a hairdresser who's saying
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look i have to pay tax yeah i had to do all this regulation stuff and i've now got seven barbers
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in my area who don't pay any tax who don't do any of that i can't compete i'm being put out of
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business and i've appealed to the tax authorities and say look if you go tax me can you tax them as
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well so we're on a level playing field and they don't do it these places just shut down and
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start up again they don't even change premises they just close down the company and they start
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a new company on companies that's part of what i'm saying is that when the system acts this way
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and reacts this way to such blatant injustices it communicates to people i'm not fulfilling my
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role in protecting you therefore people will feel that the social contract has been broken
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and it's not much to ask for the police to just do its job yeah well yeah yeah so feedback from
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guardian you can never be safe belfast's sudanese community because of course we have to be desperately
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worried about the sudanese community at this moment after a sudanese guy absolutely mutilated
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somebody and tried to saw his head off and left him community most affected yeah suddenly sudanese
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most affected it's the meme of you know i i make it about you yeah another one you go in there and
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you make it about you it's like i don't care what the sudanese community feels right now
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someone was in the street almost beheaded yeah i i actually don't care there shouldn't be
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a sudanese community in ireland there shouldn't be one there i don't understand why there is
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grow over anti-immigration protests after asylum seeker charge of attempted murder and then you
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know basically the the guardian is doing this stuff a sudanese barber owner at the cash restaurant
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was smiling at the question did he feel safe in belfast when two men strolling down the street
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paused in his open doorway and unleashed a sudden shrieking howl it ended as abruptly as it began
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and without a word the two men uh white in their 20s wearing gray tracksuits resumed their struggle
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okay so yeah i mean obviously it's awful that a sudanese barber is is being yelled at um can we
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can we talk about being a 12 year old girl in bradford now can we can we talk about you know
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we're talking about a little girl in bristol yesterday yeah or afghans yes okay so tell us
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about that so well i mean it's just it's everywhere it's every single day yesterday
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in bristol there was a report now a girl was held in a house for afghan men obviously
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you could do the math you know what happened it's everywhere it's every single day people
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have asked nicely please sort this out every day there's a new and everyone just goes there's
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multiple i mean it's up to 200 a day if you actually look into the figures it's insane
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it's insane and what what do you expect because of course we only hear about the highest profile
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cases but it is it is well you're saying 200 a day i can believe that 200 a day of the
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it's just it's a staggering decay of what once was a civilization if everything falls oh there
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we go samson's found the story so afghan men fled uk in lorry after raping girl and again this is
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this is just the one that we hear about not only are there no consequences for for the perpetrators
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there is also an ideology by the establishment that tries to sort of minimize and do damage
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control because they tolerate it yeah this is what they tolerate they either tolerate it or they
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want it well i think they want it yeah i mean the thing is you know queer starling comes out every
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single time something that like this happens when he's forced yeah to make a statement remember that
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when he's forced yes because when it's everyone else he doesn't he doesn't he'll just jump out
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and say whatever he wants but he always goes i don't tolerate this it's like yes but you actually
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do you actually do multiple times and you did bend the knee for george floyd yeah not now
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everything this is a this this is a choice having people in your country that want to behead you
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is a choice yeah it's a choice it's a political choice the establishment tolerates all of this
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i don't know well and that's why in belfast they've given up appealing to the establishment
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and they're so they're just going around and they're hitting um hmos so i mean it's still a
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bit fuzzy um you know exactly the details of the stuff because there there wasn't live streamers
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on the ground i mean i think this is a sky news helicopter that did this but from what i'm hearing
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and this this might have to change in the future as we know more but they they went to this house
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they'd identified it as an hmo a whole bunch of women wearing hijabs were basically told get out
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you're getting out they got out and then they and then they torched the house and there's a
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whole bunch of examples i don't know how many this is the one there's cars there's houses
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very specific yes i mean they because they know their community and they know that they there's
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no point talking to the politicians they know there's no point appealing to the police so
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they're just going to go okay well we're just going to change the um change the calculation
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for people choosing to come here so there's that we're going to up the stakes aren't we basically
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is you know now everyone who owns a property the calculation is do i take government money
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to house illegal immigrants or legal immigrants whatever you want to call them in this in my
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property because it may get burned down yeah and that's the calculation and that's a point i've
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made on twitter and people come back and say oh dan you're so stupid they're going to get
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reimbursed by the government okay how are they going to get reimbursed for their kneecaps if
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this goes on but this is the thing this is this is this is still the tame yes initial stage of
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an escalation point so it's escalated from appealing to the state to now changing the
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dynamics of what people have to consider exactly when they're um going around their data you know
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their sort of businesses and it's like right well the calculation has to now be is this going to
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take a step further is this going to escalate is it is it it so multiple hmos hit um in this is
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this is somewhere else where is this this is oh this is liverpool so so there was there was sympathy
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protests all over the uk and a whole bunch of different places southampton liverpool and i'm
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sure a whole bunch of other so they they went to a hotel um that is full of migrants and and they
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were and but they're doing it within the frame they're they're not setting anything on fire
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so the belfast model hasn't yet spread to the uk but it's not fundamentally difficult you look at
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what they're doing and it's like okay they're not going where the police are they're they're
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masking up they're wearing black they're leaving their phones at home they're they're knowing what
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they want to hit they're going out hit hit hit go home again that it's so much more focused and the
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police are going to massively struggle to respond to any of this stuff um this is fascinating okay
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so let's let's actually listen that's all that's not from now no that's this is about
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it this is a few months old at this point um but nevertheless uh listen
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we've got sound some people of newry morning down
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we the new republican movement have watched their counselors and mlas over the past 12 months
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is the audience getting the sound at least okay well i'll tell you what i'll describe it
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um so this is basically um a bunch of last as you'll notice that's the island flag behind them
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these are not these are not loyalists these are republicans and they are they are basically saying
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look we're fed up with our women being attacked with our kids being attacked they describe
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themselves as the new republican army all right and that's really significant right because
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tony blair for all his faults and i don't like the way he did it because of the compromises
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but he did manage to wrap up the troubles that were a massive thing in this country and a massive
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thing in northern ireland at the time and he did it by bringing them into the process and that's
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why you've got shin fein in government that's why you've got um dup in government they're the one
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they're always in government but you you've got that you've got the sort of republican and the
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loyalist forces in government right problem is those guys they're all boomers they're all in
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their 50s and 60s and apparently they're woke tards now yeah they are they are well i i wouldn't i
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wouldn't accuse a dup of being woke but they they've made their peace with the establishment
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um bringing in infinity immigrants globalist and and they kind of push back on it the same way that
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the tories do it's like okay well yeah it's going to happen and we've got to be nice about and
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procedural about it and but shin fein are just full-on yeah we want we want infinity africans
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as many africans but and and but they're all the older guys they're the old they're the old crew
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they're the establishment top the younger guys the guys in their teens 20s and 30s the guys with
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the energy the guys that you need to watch out for uh they're coming along and say no we're not
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part of that we are something new so starmer in his massive massive ineptitude he he's managed
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to unite republicans and loyalists yeah but they're not fighting each other anymore they're
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fighting him well this is the thing that people need to be aware of the political establishment
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and anyone with half a brain cell would would tell you this because every single time there's
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an atrocity queer starlin will come out and go it's the far right gonna face the full force of
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the law okay that only works when people have something to live for you've disinherited entire
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generations in their eyes whether you agree or disagree it doesn't really matter that's how they
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feel they have been disinherited and they've got nothing well the really fundamental psychological
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shift that has happened is the entire liberal progressive way of boxing this stuff in is to say
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okay if you you toe the line or we're going to call you racist we're going to get you sacked
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we're going to unperson you and what's happening now is people are saying i genuinely don't care
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your shame has lost all power to step up from that you've got you've weaponized every single
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institution in the state against the natives there are entire generations now a multitude
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of young white men that are struggling to get work so they don't have a job so you can't get
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them fired yeah they don't care they have nothing and even that is incredibly dangerous because
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that's trying to beat them with that stick of the full force of law they don't care yeah they're
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not interested they don't well and even they've got they're fighting for a future yes they want
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the future that you have denied them but that's parallel pardon me uh dan that's parallel to
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another thing is that there is no social harmony that is being disrupted yes by people who talk
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about it it's already there's a disharmonious situation and they are trying to censor everyone
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who's talking about it yeah i just don't notice it so so what i will say down whilst we maintain
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the status quo no thanks what are we what i will say about the um you know the old ways coming back
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in in in belfast um from the sort of republicans the loyalist forces is that the rest of the uk
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is going to be looking at northern ireland now and saying oh okay they're going to look at the
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model now that's what i will i will point out that the methods are fairly simple to copy um the
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don't invite auditors don't don't invite people that you know do vox pops down to your protest
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but the discipline the discipline is harder maintaining discipline under stress is harder
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and that's why these guys can do it and and in england people will struggle but people in england
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will almost inevitably start doing this but what they're going to do is they're going to have to
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climb a hurdle of getting the operational discipline up because these guys um you know
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they will be able they they going up to people in the street and saying don't feel more words
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we're going to kneecap you and they meant it and you know that they meant it yeah so england will
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struggle to copy this but it will get copied and that and that discipline ladder will get climbed
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um not that we're advocating for anything no i'm not advocating for it just to clarify
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no which we have like i say i'm still one of those idiots who think that we can vote harder
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i'm still coming at this from the within the legitimacy framework which is saying
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uh to the state you need to recognize that these are legitimate concerns now if you're if you are
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a member of the state i know that you wake up every morning just desperate for this to become
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a third world country and have as many africans as possible into the country and you think we're
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mad because we don't want that so just just take our word for it that we don't want that and
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and we genuinely we genuinely want to stop this and you're going to have to give us something
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unless you want to lose control of the situation and honestly in in five years time you are going
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to be begging for a reform government because you will under for what i restore government
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hopefully because you will understand that the alternative is a hell of a lot worse than doing
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this politically so here we got checkpoints uh so they were setting up checkpoints in northern
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islands and checking the ethnicity of cars coming through again we're not we're not approving of
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this but this is where it gets to if you shut off the political option if you tell every time
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somebody tries to push back every time somebody tries to vote all you do is say shut up racist
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yeah or the what the conservatives do which is to say yeah we agree with all of that and then as
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soon as you elect them they do the boris wave the complete opposite and i think i think nigel
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farage is going to cuck on this as well i really do well but they even they they even shout down
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and boo down nigel farage's cuck to civ nattery yeah in parliament and it's like no you should
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probably listen to him at the bare minimum you should be listening to him right now it's very
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simple because he's weak source because yeah it's very it's very annoying that they constantly bring
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the conversation to the 30s and they talk about you know weimar and stuff just stop replicating
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the conditions of the extremism use if you don't want if you don't what comes after weimar don't
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recreate weimar um so let's get a bit on to a bit of the leftist reaction so this guy is saying
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oh you you all thought he was somalian he's actually sudanese but you feel stupid now you
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shameless racists honestly this this is like when your woman tells you that that color is mauve not
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purple he is such a disgusting fifth columnist yes i hate this guy um where is he from oh this
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is this is my he works for uh five pillars this is this is my point about reform um here's an old
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bit from robert jenrich who is now one of the key men in reform the uk and this is from robert
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jenrich uh top man in reform he says the uk is proud to welcome sudanese nationals through both
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the uh uk resettlement scheme and the community sponsorship scheme just in case you're wondering
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why we all restore here and not reform i mean there you go um keir starmer's reaction um he's
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still doing the file for something law that of course he goes he goes straight to that right good
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luck that that that is meaningless for those people and let me let me speak to the issue of
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this right in southampton they they built the prosecution's case for you by filming everything
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and having their phones on them okay and that is that is a team of detectives that's an afternoon's
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work to sit there because gchq will provide them all the cell phones that were active on that street
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the names and they'll probably go into the phones and pull out what they're pretty sure is a selfie
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of the owner of that phone and then they'll sit there with the body cam footage and the live
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streams and they go through yeah that guy that guy match that guy match that guy we've now got
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his address we now get him on video we're going to prosecute him he's going to get five years in
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jail for throwing a wheelie bin through thin air and that actually has actually i think the guy got
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three years for throwing a wheelie bin through thin air and didn't hit anything okay how are you
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going to police the belfast stuff but not i mean yeah worthy points not only that look how he ends
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this appealing for calm must be the priority and that is why i urge now we must let the police get
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on with their work well there's two things there you're appealing you're appealing for calm whilst
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you yes actually do nothing and just maintain the status quo but also you're absolving yourself of
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all of all responses let me just let me just explain the difference between policing something
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like Southampton and policing someone like Belfast if you're going to police something like what we
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saw last night it's not a detective sat in a room doing what I've just described what it is is you've
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got these small cells you've got to map them you've got to infiltrate them you've got to find dirt on
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somebody you've got to get an informant you've got to get inside them like that is months of police
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work months and months of police work it is not an afternoon sat in the office looking at live
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cam footage and matching it up to this to the cell phone data you got from gchq the state does
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not have the capacity to respond to belfast if and when belfast type stuff because we don't need
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it to spread to the entire country for the for the policing model to collapse you need what
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happened in belfast to spread to 20 cities in the uk yeah and the policing model will collapse
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because they cannot respond at that level and you and you say it takes months yeah that's the
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entirety of summer that's it's done at that point if that does spread yes and it goes on all summer
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and that gets me into the deeper logic right the problem is not that if belfast becomes the
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standard model for the uk the problem is not that the police can't arrest anybody the problem is is
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that they will need to turn those 20 or 30 cities into what northern ireland looked like in the 70s
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and 80s they will need to turn it into a paramilitary lockdown state in order to be
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able to make arrests and what that will do is massively fuel the problem because then everybody
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were looking at and saying hang on you're treat you're you're you're basically treating us like
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a militarized state in order to get immigrants in there is no solution to this that does not
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involve a change of course that does not get us to the point of civil war once you start going
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down this track right and all of the this for what yeah so what's the yeah what's the so that
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we can have so that we can get to infinity africans as soon as possible and to and to
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respect the human rights allegedly of rapists and stabbers attempt of people who attempt to
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decapitate natives yeah so so zara zara here is going with the far right in belfast i mean
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it's always gonna be far right this is a bloke oh really surprise me children are living in fear
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yes children are living in fear yeah yeah grooming grooming gang girls have been living in fear for
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decades and every attempt at a peaceful solution we got told to go screw yourself you you far
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rightists yeah like a conspiracy theory it's this it's that oh it gets covered like what
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uh narinda kerr they set a bustle oh yeah everybody's talking about the bus the left
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is all talking about the bus because they can attach a monetary value to the bus and they can
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say that bus costs apparently 700 000 pounds well i care more about i think 700 000 pound bus so
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they're all talking about the value of that bus and i just go on then say okay what's the value
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of the guy who had his life ruined last night what's the value of um you know what's the value
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of wayne broadhurst riona white um those girls in southport um the the grooming gang what's the
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value of their lives rigby yes i mean there's so many examples yeah it's literally manchester arena
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i mean when is it when's enough enough right and and this is this is why you're seeing this tipping
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point because it's not just it's not just oh this happened and people have gone oh i'm just gonna
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riot now no no no no it's decades of actual atrocities that people have you know been we've
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been tolerant long enough as as a people people keep asking for tolerance and if you look at how
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much the the the british people have tolerated i mean it's unfathomably tolerant it's not it's not
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an infinite line of toleration for stuff like it does end at a certain point yeah zach palancy is
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is um you know he's he's trying to go after his political opponents by saying look this wouldn't
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be happening because he thinks that people don't have any agency he thinks this is only happening
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because people like Farage and Rupert Lowe and Elon
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Those guys in Belfast, they're not listening to politicians.
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They don't care what politicians or the police have to say.
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They have checked out from the political process.
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The people who are listening to Rupert Lowe and Farage and Elon Musk,
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and you don't understand this fundamental point.
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Eastwood MP, child being rushed from the building.
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I hope those who flanned the flames are content with themselves
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And the extraordinary point is some politicians in Northern Ireland
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are conducting themselves in the last few days, months and years
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what was the contribution to pushing mass immigration down our throat when we clearly
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didn't want it demonstrably for decades everyone's voted against it everyone's asked everyone's
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peacefully said no thanks we wouldn't like that that'd be great cheers and you just betrayed
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everyone i mean what ed ed davie's response is to go after elon again yes he's a cretin isn't he
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an odious little cretin all he can do and he's going to be focusing on this if we just shut down
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next now we were talking about this before we came on air uh this is what nepal did so nepal
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were having problems and what they did is it got to the point where they decided they had to turn
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off social media so they turned off social media and then people didn't have that outlet
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two days later nepal's parliament building was in flames and and cabinet ministers were being
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you know run down the street with people chasing them and and they changed government if you think
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that turning off social media social media is a pressure release valve again these people do not
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understand what they're doing which is which is crazy really considering how many psychologists
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they have that work on those cobra meetings yeah i mean and how do you not get that this is the
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and that's why one can only assume that this is this is what they want well this is what i've
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been warning them for years you have to you have to discover a course correction otherwise this is
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going to leave the political sphere right so how has the government actually responded to these
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events well they're going to bring in more migrants and we're paying for it and we yeah we
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are going to be made to pay for more replacements because the government will cover the costs
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of companies who bring people in it's like the government doesn't understand how serious this
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is getting now all right with that i'll hand oh we might have some comments we might have some
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Samson, thank you for the Belfast coverage last night.
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It says, voting harder will only work as long as boomers are alive.
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The moment they're gone, we'd be minority white,
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at which point voting will no longer matter.
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I mean, we really are in the last chance saloon with this stuff.
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these checkpoints were the first thing to happen in Lebanon
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and the next thing is going to be judges, politicians,
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and police chiefs dragged out of their bed at midnight and kneecapped and i'm not advocating
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for that i'm saying it's just human nature yeah you are you are trying to get people to go against
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fundamental human nature yes people like the idea of their wives daughters sisters not being raped
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and attacked in the street or their son's head cut off they got um the hapsification said these
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checkpoints oh no the yeah uh sigil stone says uh this year marks 250 years of parliament
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starting um balls to the walls with bumming in the uk just a suggestion maybe try and form a
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government less horrendously malevolent okay uh thank you for that um we don't are you able to
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run your segment from here or do you need uh no no i do need audio okay that's it yeah are we live
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now we well we are but he's restarting the computer thing that puts stuff up on okay so i i can just
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say some things to the audience that won't go to the youtube first of all i love you you're great
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you're awesome i think you kevin we don't like you now the next segment is simultaneously tragic
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and a bit comic because it's a tragic situation it's a tragic occasion but there is also some
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plenty of hilarious you're smiling so you you've managed to find something when when i look at
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these videos i just can't but i'm cackling right yeah i was howling ago before don't know if you
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heard me i i may have heard i may have heard yes no it's just it's just hilarious when i was
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telling today it's just if you watch an eddie murphy movie it's just you think some some of
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his mannerisms are an exaggeration but but as you'll see we have them all on
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video right so let's try a video to play a video to see that there is audio
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yeah that's a video can't hear the man what's going on you have to enjoy with
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earphones this segment for total pleasure you have to enjoy it with
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earphones Samson I ain't hearing the man what's happening just I mean we will
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talk a bit about I'll say some things about just build build your case and
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then and then we're smoothly editing the tech has been unboomed right so I won't
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say what I'll say in the beginning of the audience are saying that they can
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here yeah but i i want to respond to the points raised i can lip read in sudanese um okay i can't
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that's i was an american what was it useless skill an american yes let's see if technology
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he has some things to say yeah okay okay okay right thank you samson
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now why are we do we have to open all of them yeah yeah yeah okay what what why don't we just
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start the segment um samson and then we we want maximum pleasure we want maximum pleasure it's
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not like you don't you don't want to mid journey or mid just the maxing to be stopped what yeah
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what maxing just the maxing it's like when you're being a court jester like we're acting like a fool
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trying to aura farm this is new to me right we have a verdict on the carmelo anthony case
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the jury has found him guilty in the murder of austin metcoff and he got 35 years in prison
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and i think that they're gonna let him out him out in 17 if he has good conduct now um if you
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ask me this is way too lenient but as many people in the chat have told me it could have been much
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worse could have been much worse but it shouldn't be should it really yeah you know the western
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world is far too lenient on this stuff i mean this it just creates a permissive culture it's
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lenient it creates a permissive culture as you said but and uh another corollary is a culture
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of entitlement and we are going to have a conversation or two about entitlement in this
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segment this is an abc news article carmelo anthony sentenced to 35 years for murder in texas track
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meets stabbing and yeah he was found guilty the prosecutors called the stabbing senseless and
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plain and simple murder or the defense argued that anthony acted in self-defense the prosecution had
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a very simple line of argumentation you can meet a shove with a shove you can meet a shove with a
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stabbing that's a an escalation there that merits punishment now again i don't think that the
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punishment was enough right uh the defense said that he was acting in self-defense now what was
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the self-defense about they touched him so instantly they said this was a provocation
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it was a minute one two minutes before midnight he was in a situation of emergency when he had to
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defend himself and therefore justice was was um violence was justified according to the defense
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that's a terrible defense that's a terrible defense a terrible argument obviously a very
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also very i'd say very entitled arguments like someone literally touched you someone told you
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to leave their tent their team's tent and suddenly you think that your whole world is being destroyed
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and you are being essentially your whole you are in an existential risk of of death obviously
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nonsense following the announcements metcalf's parents and his twin brother delivered emotional
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victim impact statements addressing anthony directly we will never know what our future
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could have been megan metcalf austin metcalf's mother said according to wfaa for journalists
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activists this is a story for my for our family this is our reality jess metcalf his father said
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his son's death destroyed the person he used to be people think grief is sadness it is not it is rage
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pure unfiltered rage he said as he slammed his fist on a table according to wf
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double a and it's obviously emotions are high and uh yeah the i can understand the father saying
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i have absolutely no care about what carmelo anthony is going to say it's not going to bring
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my son back and he feels enraged and also incredibly sad about this and there have
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been people who have tried to actually do something really twisted to completely twist
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reality to invert reality and present kermelo anthony as the victim here because as they say
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by playing the race card because blacks were enslaved for 400 years some time ago that's
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literally the argument of several of the spokespersons for austin metcalf here we have an
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an article by new york post talking a bit about these senseless statements austin metcalf's accused
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killer carmelo anthony now he was found guilty of murdering him needs support fighting white
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supremacy after murder indictment the spokesman for the family of carmelo anthony launched into
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yet another racial tirade after the 18 year old was indicted tuesday for allegedly stabbing frisco
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texas track star austin metcalf to death uh one thing i think right now he's 19. he's not uh 18.
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shortly after the indictment dominique alexander fadden founder and president of the ngan took
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to x to announce that the legal process will move forward toward trial this case involves multiple
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minors and sensible sensitive details that i cannot and will not speak about publicly as he
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said that is why from the beginning i have refused to let this be tried in the court of public opinion
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and they say that alexander then spoke directly to those who he says have targeted
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anthony and he says to the racists the bigots and those filled with hate who have targeted carmelo
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his family and even myself you do not intimidate us we are not backing down i wonder why people
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would be filled with hate there matey yeah and also to the racist and bigots what what the same
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people that um contributed to carmelo's fund and were saying like yeah kill whitey and all this
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kind of stuff yeah well done you got you got one like what about them no nothing crickets cool
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no nothing and uh racist and bigots and we are bearing in mind that we are talking about a
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cold-blooded murder we're talking about a cold-blooded murder here they're trying to spin
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into a by playing the race card it's just something like the the sort of uppity entitlement
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of it is staggering isn't it it's narcissism on another level this kind of attitude yeah
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to have like you've killed someone you don't need to like yeah shut up where's your humility shut
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up where's like humble yourself a little bit you're disgusting degenerates here we have the
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other case of the meme, the go there and make it about you. He says, this case is yet another
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example of what it means to be black in America, where even our self-defense is questioned,
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scrutinized, and politicized. My involvement, like many others, came as a direct response to
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the overwhelming hate, threats, and outside influence that have surrounded this case since
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day one what's the hate about it's about not wanting to be stabbed is that just is that okay
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or do you think that the the family should just say hey just we're offering our son to you because
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you you were a bit um annoyed that our son told you to leave the tent so here we give you our son
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you can do what you want with him is that what would qualify as a non-systemically racist
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thing to do there's no it's a staggering lack of self-awareness isn't it really
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like they don't understand broad broad broad stroking here as a group how much fatigue is
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there at the moment again like the fatigue is real you are asking people to be to tolerate
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your behavior just just behave better i want us to listen to this man and i will have several
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things to tell him so black lives don't matter in the legal system because he killed a white guy
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and he was sentenced to what will probably be 17 years behind bars what let's continue
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by the way that was a slip of the tongue he wanted to say race card
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right so the reason behind the fatigue and i don't extend it to all
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black people i i do not in fact i will have several good
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posts by black people to mention here but the reason behind the speak on a monolith of it
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obviously just yeah but one of the reasons why i'll tell you why i have fatigue and who i have
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fatigue with it's right when you talk about people you can't symbol simultaneously say you don't see
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me as an individual on the one hand and on the other hand they tell you but you also don't see
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me as a collective abstract thing called blackness if you want to be seen as an individual
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what happened to other individuals is besides the point if you want to be seen as a collective
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you will not be seen as an individual and this is my message to this person there and
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and i'm not i'm not pro-slavery not at all but if you dislike equality you can't claim that people
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who don't want to be your slaves and subjected to you by means of being um two second-class citizens
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in who will just take it and say i'm going to give you my son so uh in order to to just vent
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your anger by doing anything you want to him, well, people will say, no, that's not fine
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with me. I don't want to be a second class citizen. I don't want to be someone who will
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be subjugated to you. So if you don't like equality and you call it racism, people will
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say, no, I will not want you to be the person who will subjugate me. Let's move on to other
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reactions. So this is a good reaction, I think, from CJ Pearson. He says, as a black man,
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how can you not empathize with Carmelo Anthony? Well, for one, he says, because I'm black,
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not a murderer. Let's start there. He is one of the people who are saying essentially here in
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this discourse, it's not about black, it's about the fact that he murdered. And one thing is just,
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this is one of the reasons why, you know, in some ghettos, you could say that, for instance,
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black communities are disintegrating. Because if your signal is, it's okay to kill if you're black,
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what is not okay because because you're black well yeah you are going to be living around among
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killers you're going to be living among people who will not be raised in the way that other
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people who get the moral formation from a society that penalizes them from acting antisocially
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that's an issue of responsibility right here we have the funding the systemic racism that
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they are accusing people of gave him more than 600k in in defense
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no idea just how a quick word on that fundraising um a lot of the leftists have pushed back and said
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because people have said okay he's got all this money and a lot of leftists have pushed back and
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said well actually his family was already rich uh before this funding came in oh and well no
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that's interesting right because so it's not socio-economic factors that drive black crime
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then i wonder i wonder what it might be then because it doesn't matter about the individual
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in their mind it's a collective called blackness and in opposition with another collective called
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whiteness that's all it is it doesn't matter that he was rich if he if he was rich right so let's
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here this person is saying essentially i don't understand why are they crying about the family
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that's just here hold on let me get this straight so carmelo anthony just got sentenced right
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and you can see the parents freaking crying bro over the murderer of a son
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they're crying because he was found guilty you can't make this stuff up what did he even do to
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warrant such a glaze um what are your comments gentlemen well good i mean this person's clearly
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got morals is raised right yeah good you know um i mean i you know there's nothing else really to
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say good i mean it's just that's normal behavior completely incapable of understanding that a
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family who lost uh their child doesn't care only about vengeance because it isn't just whiteness
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and blackness and whiteness goes on and uh you know blackness was punished here they don't think
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this way they think we lost our son and yeah they i'm i'm sure that to some extent they think that
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justice was delivered to some extent i say this because i think it's way too lenient but the major
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emotion that they are going to feel is sadness for the death of their son now let's look at the
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reactions of several of the people one other thing i want to say here is just that the following is
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that there is something really tragic and something really comic i mean you do get serial killers like
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people who eat their boyfriends and keep their asses in the fridge having a fun club who is
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protesting for them but what we have here is an establishment whose whole ideology is
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the fan club's ideology let's look at uh some of the top reactions
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um the judge as well in this case that it was not a case about race but you cannot deny
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that this is just the facts of the case and what we've seen play out since then and what we're
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watch happening now is because the defendant is black the victim is white and that's it's
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definitely scholar behavior i'm sure you can engage in argumentation with this man jumping
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up and down you're gonna make me lose my mind right so let's hear this is a good post by frank
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mccormick one thing i learned teaching in a black school is that a shocking number of blacks think
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self-defense means revenge can we stop capital b blacken seriously in their minds the second
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someone puts their hand on you all limits disappear and you're justified in doing
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whatever you want in return let's look at something to protect black people anytime a white man or
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white child can go and put their hands aggressively on anybody and something like this occur it's
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self-defense it's self-defense you put your hand on me and see how i respond so if you just touch
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them if you just touch them they're in a automatically they go carl schmidt dictator
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comes in the the sovereign full force you know it's interesting but it's a terrible argument
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that they're trying to make there because if if that if that's the way you want society to work
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yeah i mean you you'd be decimated as as a people that that or that or segregation yeah uh one thing
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though i i i do i do want to engage with arguments from the other side and i believe in all honesty
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that it's important to hear people and their arguments i do think that the best argument
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they can give is this one so sorry i think a new meme is born we have to make this a meme
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right okay so let us just uh in conscience of time cautious about time let me just i had
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so many things i wanted to tell you this is one here if evidence does come out that carmelo was
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not in fact fighting for his life when he stabbed and killed austin metcalf do you think that the
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the black community will accept that if if evidence shows that he did not no we're gonna
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stand by ours regardless they stand by theirs that's it it doesn't matter to her whether he
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actually went and killed a white guy it's just you know blackness and whiteness and you stick
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with blackness no matter what never asking themselves whether this kind of attitude is
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one of the one of the reasons which could be many i'm not saying it's just one one of the reasons
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why black communities disintegrate well and that actually goes all the way down so if if you look
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within africa they're they're killing each other over which tribe they're in yeah yeah so it's it's
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not a question of whiteness or blackness it's it's something inherent which is i'll leave it there
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So, Geoffrey Mead has a good point here, that's why I wanted to include someone who says that this is nonsense.
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He says, black Americans have to stop having this unrelenting loyalty to being black.
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It overrides common sense and also overrides right and wrong. It's a problem.
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It's one of the reasons why we struggle at the level we do.
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sense um i want to um share you this one because it's also a it's a question that some people are
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having what do you want us to do what what do you want us to do at this point what i'm i'm lost
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i don't know what to do i got five boys i don't know what i ain't got nothing to tell them no
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more you can't walk away no more first of all uh i think that it's imperative that she does a
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pedicure if you look at her here the other pair is just tell them to not murder people well yeah
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but she said i they i they can't walk they can't walk away no more but well if carmelo had walked
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away he he wouldn't be going to prison he just walked away rather than murder someone he'd be
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all right or even better not provoke a situation in the first place yeah and then you wouldn't
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have to walk away from the situation you provoked presumably tell them to not murder people
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just that's an idea maybe maybe you need at least a double digit iq and maybe she doesn't have it
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and and when she says that she has when she says she's got five kids i'm just wondering do do all
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the five kids have different surnames i mean i suppose no idea here it's loading i'll what do i
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tell my five boys i don't know yeah why don't you why don't you put that responsibility on the father
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right okay so um the other um narcissist representative jasmine croquette if a 300
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pound man is beating me like on top of me and beating me down i i'm not limited to fist
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you know i would argue that even the only time we go into things like people's hands being
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um considered deadly weapons it's typically like if they're a professional boxer or that
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kind of stuff but i think by the time you start getting to like football player good argument
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good freaking argument we're not talking about like the golfers we're talking about football
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players right she is a democrat representative in congress that that sounded to me a lot more
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like her sexual fantasy than anything else imagine a 300 pound on top of 300 pound man on top of me
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and he's and he's a football player and all the rest of it it's like yeah some some other
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yeah another fun thing there was a black man with a white lives matter um card from
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from africa says i'm from africa i'm blacker than all of you and then they started telling
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you ain't black like in the biden sense if you don't vote for us you're not black
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right so i think we're running out of time i'm conscious of of time so i'll leave it at that
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i'll just say for for a last word i think the sentence was very lenient but when it comes to
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this attitude i'm beyond fatigued beyond fatigued just
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that's a random name says what you want us to do
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lip smack we can't do this no more clicking sounds
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when my son asks me what to do what should i tell them
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tell them to not go about murder people and that it's not the way to go through life yeah quite
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right mr white to keep these diversity candidates occupied you just need a sheet of paper with
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police turnover written on both sides ko seven seven seven six um if races were flipped these
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people would be arguing the exact other way yeah absolutely absolutely it doesn't matter to them
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um yep okay and uh there's another one brother stelios i think the fatigue is incredible
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just scroll up a bit so i know who it is 40 and baba yeah okay let's move to the next segment
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so i thought we would talk about makerfield and splitting the vote just the concept of democracy
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and just how uh effectively reformers uh reformed hearts are dripping with arrogance
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i've titled this i hadn't noticed that yes but it is it is a certain type of arrogance so
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we've got a we'll start with this servation survey right uh and it just it's literally
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just polling isn't it right so we can see andy burnham uh 49 uh reform robert kenyon at 39
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and rebecca shepherd restore at eight very bad polling group you know for 518 not exactly
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staggeringly high it's not exactly a great pool to to pull from um and the dating on it as well
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not great either you know where is the date here 26 of may 1st of june so actually quite old
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right but this was released it is not that long again thursday uh june 4th so that's quite old
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how long does it take to process what do you say 500 518 it can't take you a week i could do that
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in an afternoon you i mean you really you'd be collating it as you pulled it in anyway you can
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do it on just a spreadsheet yeah then just click and then it would calculate it at the end wouldn't
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it really well the thing is they do they do a whole bunch of weird stuff so one of the stuff
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they do is is they ask about have you voted in past elections and if you haven't they they
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basically subtract from that that's why that that's why the restore vote is so high because
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restore typically attracts people who haven't voted or for a long time yeah because they've
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given up on the system yeah so when when people say i'm going to vote restore and then they say
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did you vote in the last election they say no they say oh right well we halved the percentage
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for restore or something but all of that could be done on a spreadsheet like a calculation on
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it certainly shouldn't take a week yeah certainly so but i thought this would be a really good
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starting point um just just look at the polling data i don't believe this polling data anyway
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obviously here at low diseases we were all restorers restore britain uh supporters and
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actually um i was speaking to someone in restore uh and and they said this is in terms of what
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their internal data was it was over double uh what this servation survey said so you know we'll see
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obviously and this could this could age badly but i think it would be higher um and you know
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actually having been on the ground in great yarmouth people always say you just talk about
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stuff you don't even leave a studio no i was actually on the ground in great yarmouth um
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doing sort of boot stomping around speaking to people and their data collection was actually
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really really good um just to clarify so anyway that's our starting point right
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observation survey and then i wanted to go to this because this is off the back of those polls
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if those polls and those surveys that we're getting are just that the cope that you get
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from mainstream media the sort of argument that you're getting from mainstream media seems a bit
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of an extreme stance this headline has so fundamentally misunderstood what's happening
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for those who are listening it says restore britain to steal a fifth of reforms voters
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polls suggest so clearly the person who wrote that headline the idiot has just looked at what
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restore restore is getting and thought okay well that must have come off the reform vote because
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the only way that voting happens is everybody who the 40 percent of people who vote every election
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are the only people who will ever vote at every election and therefore we can just say okay well
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that's a right-wing party and that's a right-wing party therefore that must have come from that no
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it doesn't bloody work like that 60 of people don't vote in most elections how was how was the
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brexit referendum one i'll tell you it's because dominic cummings understood that he couldn't win
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by appealing to people who voted every election yeah so he designed his strategy around getting
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people who don't vote the 60 of people in this country who don't vote he reached out to them
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and he got them to vote and it was a watershed moment in british politics that you realize that
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you could do that and ever since then every main every journalist every mainstream journalist every
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every politician has forgotten that as an option right and that is the reason why the only person
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in the entire establishment commentariat to understand what the store is doing is dominic
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cummings yeah yeah yeah that's fair that's that's completely fair i mean it's a wild headline isn't
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restore britain to steal a fifth of reformed voters mad absolutely mad statements like this
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i mean we'll scroll through this is the individual that wrote it pieter snap vangers
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brilliant british name are they non-binary looking at that picture i don't know they look non-binary
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to me anyway so they've also got some polling here one in five people who backed reform at the last
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general election would now vote for restore britain a new poll has found the find out now
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poll surveyed more than a thousand people who voted for reform in 2024 and it found 19 were
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now backing rupert lowe's breakaway party on the right however more than twice as many people said
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that they would rather nigel frage was the prime minister than mr lowe the findings come amid
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growing evidence that a split vote between reform uk and restore britain will hand victory to andy
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burnham at next week's makerfield by-election so it's a it's a fascinating take isn't it it's
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truly fascinating right they've taken this find out now poll this survey and said right okay so
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in 20 in in 2024 okay um 19 of those people that voted for reform in 2024 now are interested in
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rupert lowe's party right okay well fundamentally what happened in those two years what's happened
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in those two years that they've they've chosen to completely ignore that ignore every single
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statement that's been made every single back was wearing a different color is it in 2024
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for there's that there's but also it's nigel farage's interviews his actions his signatory
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yes right his when we're going to capitulate to islam that's what we're going to do because
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otherwise we're going to lose we have to capitulate to them because otherwise how are we going to make
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the vote for us in 2050 when they're the majority exactly oh okay that's a good argument for us
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thank you very much yeah perfect preemptive surrender yeah that's brilliant yeah give me
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that yeah and and let let's not forget uh richard tice and his well i'll be long gone put it that
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way direct quote to uh uh demography demographic change he didn't care that uh british people
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would become a minority because he'd be long gone put it that way direct quote so we're overlooking
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all of that and this gigantic big brain chap peter has come to the perspective of
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oh well they've just they've they're just splitting the vote and and actually they're
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owed those votes and that's basically the the take here isn't it that's the conversation that
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i wanted to have was that everyone pulling this argument the entire argument of vote splitting
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is predicated on and and they even say it you know steal it's the it's the fact that
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the political commentariat believes that certain parties are owed your vote yeah and the previous
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election it was the conservatives exactly yeah we're still living in the paradigm of like the
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two-party system and all that's happened is reform have taken over the conservative position on that
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so they're owed the right-wing vote yeah no you're not no no absolutely they're not and one thing i
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want to say is that because i am in some respects you know um sensitive to the argument of vote
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splitting what is interesting here it's time if restore launched six months before the next
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general elections where realistically wouldn't have time to win the elections then i would be
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more sensitive to the argument but we're talking about three and a half years before the next
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general elections and if they made the argument well yeah but you're not focusing on the on the
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local elections well yeah but what does that mean that there's never going to be another party
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well the argument yeah i mean yeah yeah precisely this argument of well we you shouldn't be voting
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for restore because andy burnham will get in i mean there's multiple layers of that anyway um
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one who cares if he's going to get in like you're just swapping one reprobate out for another it
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doesn't really matter you know it's really i mean who cares labor are still in charge there's also
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a direct contradiction of what uh reform campaigned on at the local elections which was vote reform
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get starmer out wait sorry what now you want to stay in yeah a bit coherent with this guys come
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on now you sound a bit schizophrenic um but it's also okay this argument extrapolated downwards
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upwards or outwards this argument of well you shouldn't be voting for restore because
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you know the left-wingers might get in well that applies to every election right like that logic
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applies everywhere and fundamentally what people need to understand which you're watching this so
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of course you do this is for the reform times i guess is that you are not owed people's votes you
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don't own people's votes right you have to earn them yet you fundamentally have to earn someone's
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vote all political parties are there to do is go hey guys i've got this i've got this outlook i've
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got this mindset for the country i've got this um grand great future for the country here's here's
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how i perceive yeah vision here's how i perceive it to go here's how i want the country uh to
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progress moving forwards do you want to vote for that that's it that that's that's that's their
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job that's a political party's job it would be very unusual for restore to not stand in an election
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why would you expect them not to they're a political party of course they're going to
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stand in and this and this tells you that they know that restore support is significantly higher
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than those polls suggest because you notice they're not going after the conservatives and
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to get them to stand down no they why why if if restores vote is really like this seven or eight
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percent like you say why do you care it's clearly much higher than that otherwise otherwise you'd
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be going after the conservatives with their six percent yeah it's gonna be 20 plus it's gonna be
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20 plus percent easily um but you get again it's the same kind of argument it's the same kind of
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argument told you i'm proven right again the lefties would like to thank you for ensuring
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they remain in power they're in power you moron and what's the argument here that he's proved
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right because an opinion writer has the same opinion as him but but but they're in power
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they're they're not going to not be in power just because reform wins the by-election what
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are you talking about this is not quite absolute drivel but this is the argument that they're
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they're pushing out there to be like well you shouldn't be voting for restore no
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no one should be browbeaten anymore into voting for substandard parties
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what restore offers appeals to people so people are going there if you don't like it reform
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then nige mate maybe you need to change maybe you need to have some introspection maybe you
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need to look at yourself in the mirror and go do i have the political acumen for this
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should i be in power everyone is acting like nigel farage it's his time everyone is acting like he
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it's preordained he belongs it's the hillary clinton thing isn't it prime minister yeah
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where she put up that post oh happy birthday to the future president herself yeah they just think
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it was owed it is not nigel farage's time to be in power unless people vote for him and people
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will vote for him when he offers a vision for the country that the electorate en masse
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as a majority approve of now if he doesn't do that and people go and vote for Rupert
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Lowe which they should then the only person to blame is Nigel Farage it's his missteps
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it's his lack of vision it's his being out of touch you know democracy in this way can
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can be viewed like uh capitalism or um you know consumer-based products you don't have to buy a
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product you're not forced to buy a product but and this is something which happens often uh in the
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movie industry in the video game industry is that they offer us complete crap and then they go okay
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surprise no one bought it oh it's flopping it's like yeah this you can extrapolate it outwards
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for political parties it's the same principle right they're offering you something for you to
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buy into literally with membership but also with your vote which has a inherent value don't give
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it up willy-nilly don't just cast it asunder to anyone that that you know that sort of speaks
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remotely to you well ultimately because they know they've got a shit product and and the reason that
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reform don't want people to vote for restore is the same reason that the legacy broadcasters want
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to get podcasts like this shut down because we're taking their viewers yeah rather than looking at
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themselves and going well what are we actually doing that's not appealing to people what are
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we doing that's turning people off so so many people well we'll just shut that down so many
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people under under 40 they they they never watch tv they they just have they just have youtube a
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few video games and that's it if they have a tv it's for like watching movies and that's it yeah
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so i think we'll uh there's some other links here i've got to use this instead and you see
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these kind of headlines you know restore about to give burnham victory no no actually nigel is
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going to give burnham victory because if he is not appealing to people and people are going to
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restore the onus is on nigel that's nigel garage's fault find a way to appeal to them well stop being
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such a massive cuck would be a good start you know stop being weak source and and and also
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if if if the argument is well that's who he is well then that's yeah that's who he is then that's
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fine but don't be surprised when another political party offers something that the the electorate
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wants and then they vote for them i think people have lost sight because we've been given such
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nonsense to vote for for decades this two-party system of absolute just pathetic unintelligent
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losers who offer the same thing people have lost sight of actually how valuable your vote is right
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it has a it's a huge value you don't give it to just anyone and i'm not saying either you must
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vote for restore no no the message here is understand the value of your vote do not be
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guilt tripped brow beaten into voting for just anyone they must parties have to earn your vote
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it's a really interesting thing when canvassers come to people's doors because most people don't
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engage with them and they actually don't expect to be engaged with by and large anyway in my area
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it's a massive lib dem region and i go out and have a word with them and i speak to them and
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they don't they don't expect people to engage with them properly and actually quiz them
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and go well let's drill down into what you believe and they don't expect it but that's
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what people need you know you need to you need to hold your vote in as high esteem as what the
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political the people in political office should be uh you know attributing the value of your vote to
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right it's valuable there's political office there's a sense of duty there should be a sense
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of duty there there should be a sense of sort of grandiose spectacle that should be important
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but it's this constant decline the decline of our civilization is drilled down even into that now
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i i sometimes engage um with when they when they knock at the door i actually had the conservative
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candidate knock on my door at the last election and i spent 20 minutes i spent 20 minutes trying
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to convince him to um resign from the conservative party and tear up his membership and um i don't
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think he was quite prepared for for that door knock and then so this just to end anyway this
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is rupert lowe um and he sums it up quite nicely one of the laziest arguments against restored
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britain is that we're splitting the vote i entirely disagree voters are not the property of virage
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or reform voters are earned not owned or owed either right owned owed earned so if people are
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leaving reform and backing restore britain instead that is not because we stole them
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it's because reform failed to keep them and that's the thing right you you don't have a right to
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anyone's vote no one it restore britain doesn't have a right to anyone's vote they're only getting
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support because they're speaking visionarily wise policy wise to what the public want do you know
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how reform are responding to a store it's by lashing out well they've changed their uh they
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changed their color they've picked a color which is like 98 similar oh it's so so funny it's so
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funny so this splitting the vote thing in makerfield is nonsense don't don't allow people
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to browbeat you into it don't allow people to uh guilt trip you into voting for certain parties
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because this logic you take it to its its logical conclusion right the most simplistic term is well
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reformer here don't vote for anyone else that's their argument make these parties earn your vote
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and the same applies for restore it applies to everyone understand the inherent value of your
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vote you're giving these people power they work for you and this gets down into the rot of every
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single politician in this day and age they believe they are owed your vote they believe they own your
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vote rather than the other way around they earn your vote so they can earn the right to represent
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you they work for you and this is why we've got such reprobates and degenerates in parliament at
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the moment just not enacting the will of the people because they think that they could just
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get your vote regardless and i think that there is something deeper there is that you know from
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a common sense perspective i'd say is that the job of the government is to protect people's
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liberties it's not so it's not liberties are not permissions to be granted at the bureaucrats
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disposal when they act this they act this way it's like they think right now um you are going
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to be free to the extent i give you the permission to be free yeah you you owe me your support
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okay you have a comment or two yep yeah i've got some comments here uh
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uh what's this i think faraj got those this is from cookie boy i got i think faraj got those
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tories especially in the deem sahawi specifically to ensure that rupert would never come back to
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Barber says I assume the constant entitlement of
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so for those who are listening uh that was a uh large compilation of headlines from left-wing
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publications basically saying that riots was a good thing um which they seem to no longer believe
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they know it's more about when they do it it's about the black and also i'm reminded of michelle
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obama who was saying that uh black women are too quiet and aren't allowed to articulate to complain
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for the Dems if they have to cheat in California
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Remember during the Iran protests that the Iranian regime would bring in militias from places like Lebanon and Syria to assist their police in putting down the dissident rioters.
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It's the glum thought that our own regimes have similar intentions with their Kurdish militias or moderate rebels in Syria or even the Afghan refugees we brought in by the planeload who basically can act as a off-the-books reserve army that could be used should things get too fiery in Europe with the uppity natives.
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i mean it's part parcel of one of the rhetorics that we listen to is just when they say that
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democracy is thing only about the next election but non-democratic states plan ahead and when
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they want to influence you know other states they are trying to infiltrate them and form
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fifth phalanxes from within yeah i mean they're totally doing it yeah a couple of comments from
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segments um on the one about belfast alex uh ptolemy says now what's interesting about last
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night's protests is that the only counter-protest from the left was in southampton and that's
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because they don't have any organic support but they do have organizational capabilities due to
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organisms like stand up to racism the british public organically reacted to the mutilation
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in belfast and took to the streets across the country the left don't have organic support
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so they couldn't do this yep uh very true um good point dirty belter says remember that the ira won
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um i i might push back a bit on that i mean they're in government but they didn't get a unified
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island so we give them half marks for that uh the taliban won the vietnamese won short of total
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genocide there is no way to defend against a decentralized insurgency yeah that was kind of
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point that i'm going to is that now that we've got to to paramilitary level organizational pushback
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and that almost certainly will spread over time to 20 or 30 citizens in the uk the only way that
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they will be able to make a risk is turning those cities into basically lockdown um militarized
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zones which will then feed the circle it will then it will then feed back more and it will turn into
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a proper civil war and so the only way is is the is the establishment need to change course
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otherwise this will blow up and it will become a civil war definitely on that track um he also
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says uh why does the left care about the bus they didn't care uh with the protest and leads in 2024
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yeah uh all the um although was in bristol the colston statue that went in the harbor
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nobody got prosecuted for that yeah yeah so so they're very much i mean it's like that video
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They don't care about protests most of the time.
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the scenes in Belfars remind me a lot of the protests
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I don't know if we had a couple of hundred years.
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yeah and and charles says if they're leaving their phones with people sending innocent text
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messages and the evidence gathering will be tricky i mean yeah i mean that i mean i i would
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never of course do anything like that but if i was i would i would start a movie um and have
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somebody like text halfway through it to a friend about something innocuous and then and then come
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home but i mean whatever or i would start a steam game or something or whatever it is some sort of
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digital track record because you don't need to uh you don't need a slam dunk case you need a
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introduce an element of doubt with a jury because they've got a tenuous case against you
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john v says good morning stelios nathan dan hello john v the caramello case shows that a lot of
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these useful idiots never actually bothered to learn the facts about the case they're giving
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such strong opinions on the same thing happened with jacob blake kyle rittenhouse etc or maybe
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they know everything but still believe an injustice was carried out against carmelo which is insane
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i hope that's not the case and that they're just ignorant i think they to be honest they were
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really clear about not caring it was a combination though as well a combo yeah
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dradna logan i think you're making a mountain out of a molehill here this type of defense is
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buy me a dozen and it normally never works out for them don't understand why i'm making a mountain
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out of a molehill lord inquisitor hector rex amazing that these people supporting carmelo
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anthony don't realize that the black jurors were struck off for saying they couldn't be unbiased
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and jimbo g says it must be exhausting to be a based african-american having to fight the
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constant attempts by the media to hypnotize you into a frenzy over a murderer being held accountable
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all right well mine henry ashman says restorers getting voters because they're providing an
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authentic alternative option with a positive vision for transforming the country is there
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a vision for a reform-led country and if so is it any different to labor now now i often say
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actually like what's the difference between what reform believe and the the standard blair right
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paradigm i mean literally nothing there isn't there isn't no that i don't i don't see what
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the difference is you know uh reform are a swap from the mainstream in the same way a vegan burger
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is a swap from a vegan sausage restore just bring the 100 british beef in this analogy
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prime filet beef aberdeen angus uh but imperium walker welder says i really hope reform keeps
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the entitlement because all it will do is turn away everyone who isn't in the farage fan club
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yes yeah completely agree with that and luke robinson says reformers are full of arrogance but
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also desperation the amount of begging and pleading from them is off the charts
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excellent well um thank you to my uh co-host and oh i should also point out um we're lighter on
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next one or tomorrow i'll be on friday but but you can come and watch the one tomorrow bye