The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1439

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to podcast of the lotus eaters it is episode 1439 and today i'm sandwiched

00:00:06.240 between two guests conor and nick legends i was gonna say are we really guests considering we're

00:00:12.140 now on so frequently yeah guestish right wonderful guesty um today we're going to be discussing um

00:00:19.300 how starmer has very unfortunately lost his defense minister um more crash out about restore

00:00:26.040 because it's coming in torrents uh and how axe girl was vindicated she was right and the police

00:00:32.760 lied uh and before we move on to that i'd just like to draw your attention to

00:00:37.260 um lads hour three o'clock so um i i had an idea right i've i've come up with a game it's called

00:00:46.700 g and g um gender and grievance and i'm going to take you on a fantasy kingdom crusade to

00:00:55.820 fix the kingdom of uh common will i think it is with your uh after you've picked your gender and

00:01:02.140 your grievance so that should be good tune in at three o'clock for that and i think we can hand

00:01:07.200 over to nick all right good to be back um so keir starmer we know that the two things that can

00:01:14.500 survive a nuclear apocalypse are cockroaches and keir starmer so he is hanging on for now

00:01:19.320 i'm amazed by the time this goes out maybe he'll have gone but he's in serious serious trouble

00:01:23.840 because, as you say, his defence minister, John Healy, resigned.

00:01:29.960 And if you want to know how bad it is for Starmer,

00:01:32.880 Conor was kind enough to send this to me this morning from Andrew Marr.

00:01:35.420 Let's have a little look.

00:01:36.200 I think it's going to be a one-off moment.

00:01:38.560 I think he is fighting so incredibly hard.

00:01:41.280 And, you know, he's trying to resist gravity.

00:01:43.940 And we love people trying to resist gravity.

00:01:46.020 We applaud them, you know, whether they are base jumpers

00:01:48.440 or tightrope walkers or evil.

00:01:50.580 We say, good on you.

00:01:51.600 And then eventually, Nick, gravity wins.

00:01:54.700 We don't quite know when gravity is going to win this time.

00:01:57.200 Every resignation, every collapse is different. 0.99

00:01:59.760 Liz Truss was different from Boris Johnson.

00:02:02.080 It was different, of course, from Rishi Suda. 0.56

00:02:03.980 That was a general election.

00:02:05.460 But elections aside, these things tend to come in stages.

00:02:08.660 I just think this is absolutely it.

00:02:11.340 And my phone is full of messages from Labour MPs saying the same thing,

00:02:14.520 including ministers, by the way.

00:02:16.020 It's a morning for brave faces, everyone.

00:02:17.780 Brave faces on Ferrari. Do your best.

00:02:20.220 I can tell you, however, I've been told that Peter Kyle went to see the Prime Minister

00:02:25.220 to get an assurance that in the event of a leadership contest involving Keir Starmer,

00:02:30.580 he would be able to support somebody else without losing his job.

00:02:33.880 So that is what's going on behind the scenes.

00:02:36.240 Goodness.

00:02:37.260 Yeah, not great for Starmer.

00:02:39.300 He somehow clings on.

00:02:40.180 He's the most stubborn.

00:02:41.400 Can I make a quick point?

00:02:42.420 Yeah.

00:02:42.800 Why do people who actually work on the TV cannot broadcast anything from home

00:02:48.060 without showing us their nasal passage the entire time.

00:02:50.380 It's a bit like Gordon Brown when he was looking down at the laptop

00:02:53.540 and then thought that by closing the laptop, you'd end the call.

00:02:56.600 So just at the end of the thing, he's like, thank you.

00:03:00.080 Yeah, it's an age cut off, isn't it?

00:03:01.740 I don't know why, at a certain age, they can only position the camera on their knees or whatever.

00:03:06.300 A slight moment of glee, by the way.

00:03:08.200 Do you remember Andrew Marr went on Question Time in the media aftermath of the 2024 election

00:03:13.000 and was saying, the adults are back in the room.

00:03:15.040 We can look forward to years of peace, prosperity, and stability.

00:03:19.420 Suddenly, the man who thought Greta Thunberg was some sort of prophet

00:03:22.940 turns out he didn't have great judgment after all.

00:03:25.280 Yeah, I tweeted about that. Andrew Neill retweeted it.

00:03:27.660 Yeah, it's just a classic clip.

00:03:29.440 Should have played that, but yes, now eating humble pie.

00:03:33.380 So what happened? John Healy resigned. Pretty big deal.

00:03:35.820 He was a Labour loyalist type of guy, Defence Secretary,

00:03:39.180 and his letter was incredibly scathing.

00:03:41.540 Probably too small to read.

00:03:42.980 I'll give you some of the highlights of it.

00:03:44.200 i mean i will just say as a preface as well you know some people might think well we don't want

00:03:48.920 to spend all our money on the fence you might be somewhat isolationist or something but in the

00:03:52.820 context where and the labor backbenchers want to spend all on welfare in another context that could

00:03:57.500 be honorable you might but in the context where you spent 331 billion on welfare in 2025 and

00:04:03.000 income tax was no so you spent 333 billion and income tax was only 231 billion you go this is

00:04:09.800 insane well more to the point in the context of when they are desperately trying to start third

00:04:13.920 world third world war with russia yes i mean i'd rather they didn't do that but if you are going

00:04:18.120 to start a war with russia i'd quite like to have an army before that's it people obviously there's

00:04:23.700 a lot of talk about you wouldn't fight for the regime does anyone want to fight for a regime

00:04:27.140 that hates us but separate from that yes we do still probably need a defense and we've had a

00:04:32.080 great navy and special forces so it's a shame for them to just decline and we're in a situation

00:04:36.980 where the european elite generally the sort of neoliberal elite has accepted with cajoling from

00:04:40.980 Trump that they need to get defence spending up. But then it's like, are you actually going to do

00:04:45.180 it? And that's what this is all about. So we'll look at all that. And also Dominic Cummings has

00:04:48.780 got some interesting inside stuff on it. But just to look at the letter, it's too long to go into

00:04:52.380 all of it. I'll give you some of the key bits. He says, since then, you've been unable, meaning

00:04:56.520 Starmer, and the Treasury has been unwilling to commit the resources that the nation needs to

00:05:00.340 defend the country at this time of rising threats. He also says, I'm being forced to make decisions

00:05:05.560 that would reduce the readiness of our forces and increase the risk to personnel on operations and

00:05:10.240 could make the country less safe you might say lol when people are getting uh attempted beheaded

00:05:15.000 in the streets but you know yeah the invasions already happened i mean it does remind me as well

00:05:19.260 um when you're talking about the the benefits bill that pat mfadham was was talking to

00:05:24.040 jeffrey epstein's top guy um pete mandelson saying every single meeting in this labor government is

00:05:29.460 just me being asked who can we tax to foot the benefits bill next so it doesn't shock me that

00:05:34.980 that healy who is a longtime labor loyalist as you said he had cabinet and shadow cabinet positions

00:05:39.740 the blair brown um etc that he thinks for the good of his own career possibly but maybe for

00:05:45.320 the good of the party that he needs to step away and ensure that um the position isn't discredited

00:05:49.820 i'm not i'm not sure that it is necessarily for his career because because he is he's a stalwart

00:05:54.300 he is he's just a given if you're forming a labor government you put him in yeah a lot of people

00:06:00.020 have said it's it's principled i mean you could say it's convenient because burnham's going to

00:06:03.880 come in he's getting it done now he can come back in on the burn or he can even run himself which

00:06:08.080 some speculate. But I think it basically comes down to his job's been made impossible, as we'll

00:06:12.440 see. I mean, look at this summary from Laura Koonsberg. So understand Healy was only given

00:06:17.040 full offer on defence cash, $13.5 billion on Monday, even though number 10 wanted to announce

00:06:21.180 it today. Chief said only $10 billion was real cash. So he initially was promised something like

00:06:25.880 $18 billion, and $18 billion was already kind of the lower end. And then even that wasn't,

00:06:29.840 it was $13.5 billion. And even in real terms, it's $10 billion. No date in PM planned to hit

00:06:34.400 3% NATO spending target, Healy could not accept breaking that vow made to allies in Parliament.

00:06:39.340 So it does seem to have been a principled thing, Andrew Neil, perhaps the grimmest part of John

00:06:43.620 Healy's brutal resignation letter is the defence spending projected to be 2.6% GDP by 2027 will

00:06:49.460 only reach 2.68% in 2030, a pathetic 0.08% increase over three years after all that Starmer rhetoric

00:06:57.760 about the dangerous times we live in. So people are pointing out, people keep saying 0.8 and then

00:07:01.900 correct himself none of 0.08 so it's this tiny increase he's getting in reality so uh this

00:07:08.000 starmer then comes out and says my first duty is to keep the british people safe and i'll always do

00:07:13.120 what is necessary to protect our national security you've literally just done the opposite you've

00:07:16.540 literally fallen short of what is necessary to protect our national security and so everyone's

00:07:20.680 resigned so it couldn't be more nonsense from starmer um carl's friend kate had an interesting

00:07:26.940 uh tweet so much of john healy's resignation letter is damning but lines that should really

00:07:31.480 worry those inside government trying to make changes and those outside hoping for them that

00:07:35.860 despite a war in Ukraine a war in Iran cyber threat unpredictable allies the impact of energy

00:07:40.460 and resource insecurity on UK this prime minister made promises he knew he could not keep and shut

00:07:44.900 his own well-respected defense secretary out of the process to agree funding for the defense

00:07:49.060 investment plan to try and push through something inadequate and save his own political blushes

00:07:53.320 in the same week he welcomed Macron Mertz and Zelensky to Downing Street to stand in front of

00:07:57.580 flags and promise unwavering commitment knowing the money to pay for it didn't exist he's

00:08:01.420 also trying to make um subsidize his record unpopular poll numbers by saying well i'm very

00:08:07.260 i'm very popular on the world stage of course as davos man of course he's popular with the

00:08:11.120 international globalist class but the price of admission for the international globalist class

00:08:15.240 is willing to fight its wars and so if we don't have the capacity to put our chips on the table

00:08:20.220 then he's also going to lose popularity among those yes that's true although we've gone before

00:08:24.580 that anyway although i suppose he could try and get some future career internationally kemi it's

00:08:28.160 probably not worth watching the whole thing actually but she had a statement where she 0.51

00:08:30.700 just basically said welfare welfare welfare a simple political message like labor want to spend

00:08:35.420 on welfare which everyone knows is bloated instead of defense and that's the message they can do and

00:08:39.980 it's probably a smart one well they couldn't talk about immigration could they no good point what

00:08:44.160 did farage have to say let's have a look he wanted three percent to be spent on defense by 2030

00:08:49.580 something by the way that we campaigned for in the last manifesto it makes sense to get to that

00:08:55.000 target by then. The Prime Minister didn't match it by half, and so John Healy is gone.

00:09:01.220 Where does this leave Sir Keir Starmer? Where does it leave the Labour government, Mr Farage?

00:09:05.480 Keir Starmer's premiership is over. It's only a matter of time. Already in the corridors of

00:09:11.700 Westminster, the jockeying position is going on. Whether Burnham wins next week or not,

00:09:18.620 there will be a challenge over the course of this summer to Starmer's leadership. It's over.

00:09:22.420 you said he's uh gonna survive a nuclear winter and there's many jokes about keir starmer being

00:09:27.020 the terminator i think at this point starmer just wants to be sarah collars skeleton hanging onto

00:09:30.560 the fence he's gonna be the only thing left yes true he can't last very long i mean i've always

00:09:36.120 thought burnham will win make a deal we'll talk a bit later but uh it's gonna be burnham isn't it

00:09:40.100 but tim shipman summarizes proof of three things john healy is not the shrinking violet someone

00:09:45.180 the military feared the government is in no way taking the current threats to the defense and

00:09:48.760 to the realm of the realm seriously star mcgovern is a sinking ship which can't get out of the docks

00:09:52.780 on key issues fair um this is the treasury lashing out in defense they say let's be clear on what

00:10:00.300 john is asking for cuts to schools and hospitals i mean you could kind of argue it's got to come

00:10:05.740 from somewhere the money unless you borrow yeah well we could we could immediately cut the 15

00:10:09.580 billion on universal credit given to foreigners that would be nice i start one uh nine billion

00:10:14.100 to net zero was a figure i saw cited a lot of nonsense could be cut and um yes so is it possible

00:10:22.720 it's simpler than that they just don't want to give a whole bunch of working class patriots guns 0.91

00:10:27.000 and i'm serious maybe because arab countries do this that they run a deliberately small military 0.81

00:10:34.620 and undersized military because it's a threat to a threat of a coup i don't think so and we'll get 0.57

00:10:39.560 into why later because they're giving them they're prepared to give us ajax tanks that don't work but

00:10:44.840 not drones that would work so i think it's more a competency issue probably and genial says this

00:10:50.360 is an outrageous disgraceful smear on john healy and although you are right of course they don't

00:10:54.680 even allow us pepper spray and things like that and that's obviously true as well um there are a

00:10:58.740 ton of ways to finance defense starting with net zero without taking a penny from schools or 1.00

00:11:02.940 hospitals we should be ashamed of herself for allowing this nonsense she's really desperate 0.93

00:11:06.160 true jenrik the government has all the money in the world for ed milliband's mad plans foreign aid

00:11:11.040 and benefits for foreigners but nothing for our armed forces good on john healy shame on them

00:11:15.200 well jenrik's jenrik's quite upset because i mean if we don't have the capacity to invade

00:11:19.700 foreign nations how on earth will he import its occupants it's right well when it comes to the

00:11:24.500 uk budget it's pensions welfare nhs and debt repayment everything else is a rounding error

00:11:30.520 so so just tighten tighten on one of those and you're fine yeah and welfare is an obvious one

00:11:37.540 given that we're giving bmws out for adhd have you considered how upset simon and linda will be

00:11:42.640 well there is that so then the other massive thing that happened or pretty massive not quite as big

00:11:47.800 but pretty big is that al khan's the minister for the armed forces also resigned in an even more

00:11:53.240 scathing letter and he is of course well respected former royal marine i'll give you some of the

00:11:58.620 highlights from the letter the character of conflict is changing faster than our procurement

00:12:01.720 can keep up with we're still purchasing capability suitable for the last war while our adversaries

00:12:06.240 arm for the next one platforms that cost billions can be defeated by systems that cost thousands he

00:12:11.720 also says we're asking our armed forces to operate in a more dangerous world on a budget written for

00:12:15.440 a calmer one this was a key part for me the same instinct that serious problems can be managed

00:12:20.240 rather than faced runs through the northern island legacy bill i've worked to fix the bill from the

00:12:24.540 inside but it remains unfit for purpose it risks failing the very veterans it claims to protect

00:12:28.860 men and women i serve with those i buried friends alongside people who did their duty under

00:12:33.060 conditions most individuals in westminster will never have to imagine so karns was criticized

00:12:37.620 for not standing up for veterans who starmer and hermer want to prosecute with this northern

00:12:42.840 island legacy bill and he was criticized pretty harshly by other veterans who said he's abandoning

00:12:47.640 his men on the field and he didn't vote in it and obviously he was in there if you believe this he

00:12:51.520 was there sort of trying to work with it and now he's just come out and said uh i can't do anything

00:12:55.540 with this so it's an accumulation of things it's a defense spending but it's also you want to screw

00:12:59.580 over veterans was it you who did that brilliant tweet on on d-day when the when kia starmer was

00:13:05.820 celebrating the d-day veterans and you replied i bet you're gutted that they're too old to prosecute

00:13:09.560 yes something like that yes i should have included that one i think like 30 odd thousand likes that

00:13:13.880 one that was believe it yeah yeah because yeah it's just starmer's hypocrisy it's like oh the

00:13:18.360 out of data you hate our military you're trying to literally prosecute people now it's like

00:13:22.720 it's incredible hermer is pure evil as well um so khan's taking a principal stance on that 0.70

00:13:27.740 he says we ask soldiers to fight for this country in return we owe them the kit to do the job and

00:13:31.360 the loyalty to stand by them when it's done we're failing on both public confidence he goes on it's

00:13:36.040 what's quite interesting he goes beyond that into a kind of general riff that sounds like something

00:13:39.600 we could almost say public confidence in our institutions is weakening the politics increasingly

00:13:45.220 looks performative while everyday life gets harder. The machinery of government itself has

00:13:49.580 been left to decay. Decisions that should take days take months. And he goes on and on. A strong

00:13:54.120 country is not simply one with capable armed forces. It's one where working people feel

00:13:57.260 economically secure. Public services function. Energy is resilient. Dig it, Ed Miliband. Communities

00:14:02.100 are stable and young people can see a future worth working towards. So the whole letter could

00:14:08.460 be written by reform, frankly. And he's the one person, Al Kahn, who Dominic Cummings said would

00:14:14.560 be a possibly decent Labour leader he said this quite a while ago and he was sort of tipped as an

00:14:18.640 outside bet and I did a thing on that I think. Well him and Healy are the best Labour we've got

00:14:22.740 I mean they're all a bit mad because they're Labour but those two are still the best they've

00:14:26.120 got. Yeah yeah and what's and then maybe Cairns now will sort of make a run maybe what'll happen

00:14:31.580 is Burnham will get in if he loses then the Cairns and the Healy's can become a thing but

00:14:35.200 Healy's still seen as being on the soft left which is the Burnham side but he's obviously not

00:14:39.560 quite as mental as some of them as you say this is interesting because it echoes a lot of things

00:14:43.260 oh and by the way the pps from the ministry events left as well pamela nash so i'm important to yeah

00:14:49.100 yeah yeah by the way healy was meant to be in swindon today uh doing an event with starmer

00:14:53.500 which obviously now what kind of event not happening it's something to do with military

00:14:56.780 the defense at the old honda factory i can't remember exactly what it was the drones

00:15:00.540 yeah the drones wait labor were coming to swindon to work on personnel killing drones

00:15:06.780 that's a bit worrying

00:15:08.100 yeah yeah

00:15:10.540 did it have the address

00:15:11.460 yeah yeah

00:15:11.880 that is a bit

00:15:12.360 Starman's like

00:15:13.140 BB Nut and Yahoo

00:15:13.780 if you can hear me

00:15:14.660 obviously

00:15:16.160 Healy's not going

00:15:17.140 and Starman

00:15:17.520 I think they're now

00:15:18.040 sending out

00:15:18.560 I say poor old

00:15:19.680 but Dan Jarvis

00:15:20.960 who's taken the

00:15:21.560 defence role

00:15:22.080 in an impossible job

00:15:23.480 oh no

00:15:25.260 this has suddenly

00:15:25.760 stopped

00:15:25.960 Dan did you just

00:15:26.640 sabotage me

00:15:27.320 no

00:15:28.160 it was working

00:15:29.220 a second ago

00:15:29.840 don't worry

00:15:30.660 I'll go to

00:15:31.100 I'll go to

00:15:33.260 the other method

00:15:33.840 which

00:15:35.760 Shafka immediately borsed up. 0.99

00:15:38.360 Immediately boomed it.

00:15:39.520 Yeah, it's harder than it looks.

00:15:42.840 So that was the woman that resigned.

00:15:44.840 I put it in the wrong order.

00:15:46.280 Okay, I wanted this Richard...

00:15:48.320 That's weird.

00:15:49.520 It was there and it's gone.

00:15:50.360 Oh, well, basically a former SAS guy was incredibly scathing as well.

00:15:54.980 I think I've accidentally just got rid of it.

00:15:56.780 He was incredibly scathing about everything Al-Khan said, essentially.

00:16:01.440 That tweet was going to be, which is Richard Williams,

00:16:03.580 who's a colonel, former Special Forces.

00:16:05.760 and he was just there it is it's kind of gone into a weird space um al khan's had a distinguished

00:16:10.880 military career it's damning that ben starmer hermer reeves and others would not listen to

00:16:15.160 him on lawfare the northern island bill on defense transformation or on financial resources and all

00:16:19.880 credit to this uh world marines veteran for stepping into the breach and his resignation

00:16:24.120 on principle and he talks about what how this is a political bomb under the uk defense

00:16:29.120 highlighting how screwed up it all really is and for more on that here we go dominic cummings so

00:16:35.160 Cummings has talked about this a lot

00:16:37.380 if you can decipher his tweets

00:16:39.540 I'm going to try and give you

00:16:40.880 my take on them, the main takeaways

00:16:43.320 from this, because you always have to decipher Dominic

00:16:45.380 Cummings, they're always long, no paragraph breaks

00:16:47.540 lots of acronyms

00:16:49.260 but basically

00:16:50.220 we're doing everything wrong with defence, we've got these

00:16:53.320 Ajax tanks, armoured fighting vehicles

00:16:55.460 they call them now, which will cause sickness and

00:16:57.340 hearing problems for soldiers because of the way they vibrate

00:16:59.440 and they're completely not unfit

00:17:01.460 for purpose, the government was massively out of

00:17:03.460 date on the importance of drones as proved by the Ukraine-Russia war. They were using an old

00:17:09.480 report from 2010, he says in here, so they had no idea what was going on with drones and how out of

00:17:15.620 date they all were. So that was another thing. He got them to admit in the secret review all this,

00:17:21.560 but that was destroyed as soon as he left. Of course, this is only Cummings take. If you believe

00:17:26.060 Cummings, everything he did was just destroyed seconds after he left the building. After I left

00:17:31.040 number 10 documents were shredded in 24 hours so he says he got this secret review on defense that

00:17:35.040 basically admitted all this it admitted we're out of date we're not focusing on drones our

00:17:38.940 nuclear is a mess we don't know what we're doing procurement's a mess and he said people admitted

00:17:42.520 that secretly after he left it was shredded and none of the people involved in it can be held to

00:17:46.540 account because they just say well i can't be questioned because of national security there

00:17:49.740 might be something to that as well because when cummings was interviewed by chris williamson a few

00:17:52.700 years ago he did explain how downing street had no drone defense technology over its gardens or

00:17:57.620 its buildings until he warned them about the threat so i can i can believe it yeah i can believe

00:18:02.860 it and there's more evidence later but he says um they admitted this in the secret review he says

00:18:07.380 this is a regime complete problem he calls it which means it requires total regime change because

00:18:12.640 it's so many departments are involved in so much faulty thinking but mps are protecting themselves

00:18:17.500 by citing national security another one he explains and this is just more detail really

00:18:24.600 but it has an interesting line in this that he says, everybody involved is part lying and part

00:18:30.360 telling the truth. So it's kind of too much to go into, but basically all the departments are at war

00:18:37.380 with each other. The Treasury is blaming the Ministry of Defence. Ministry of Defence is

00:18:41.280 blaming the Treasury. The Cabinet Office is also involved. So essentially everyone's blaming each

00:18:47.040 other. The thinking is outmoded and nothing can get done, which is another thing that Al Khan said

00:18:51.900 this letter that things that should take months take years and so this is that's basically the

00:18:57.520 takeaway from that um i thought i had a translated that one but i haven't in my notes you've got to

00:19:03.080 translate it's like a badly formatted um ai but but he's been he was doing this before ai existed

00:19:09.800 so so it is him yes yeah this and i said this is another way just i haven't summarized it well

00:19:16.340 enough in my notes but that's basically the takeaway is that it's a complete bleep storm

00:19:20.160 and everyone's blaming each other and the old ways are continuing you can't you can't keep doing that

00:19:25.520 because we've got we've got to have real change and the only sort of positive is that now this

00:19:29.260 has blown up if burnham gets in or whoever gets in they almost have to tackle it because people

00:19:35.380 are resigning and saying the military budget isn't there the procurement procurement's out

00:19:39.920 of date everything's out of date we're a laughing stock we've got to fix this but also if you do 1.00

00:19:44.420 anything to welfare then your whole backbench resigns that's the thing because they're idiots 1.00

00:19:49.380 that is the problem 1.00

00:19:50.160 so the only way

00:19:51.060 Burnham can therefore

00:19:51.660 do it

00:19:52.120 is with borrowing

00:19:53.100 and then the bond markets

00:19:54.260 freak out

00:19:54.820 and he's already criticised

00:19:56.340 for being the guy

00:19:56.880 that spooks the bond markets

00:19:57.840 so this is a big problem

00:19:58.740 for him

00:19:58.960 but he did imply

00:20:00.020 Burnham that he would

00:20:00.880 do it with borrowing

00:20:01.580 but then everyone said

00:20:02.780 oh what about the bond markets

00:20:03.520 and then he sort of

00:20:04.020 rolled back

00:20:05.100 but now he's going to have to

00:20:06.280 I mean what's going to happen

00:20:06.940 you get in

00:20:07.860 I mean for now

00:20:09.500 he's going to

00:20:09.940 what mantrasterism is

00:20:12.240 it's borrowing money

00:20:13.420 it's all it comes down to

00:20:15.560 yeah

00:20:16.160 Lord Frost translated

00:20:18.080 some of the Dominic

00:20:18.760 Cummings tweets

00:20:19.240 for us. He said, I remember this exercise from when I was in government in 2020. Dominic is right

00:20:24.140 on all this, the unreal numbers, the crazy procurement process, but also the fact that

00:20:27.740 every department has reasonable criticisms of every other. This is just the way British

00:20:30.820 government works nowadays, and it's why so little actually gets done. I doubt a Burnham government

00:20:35.460 will really tackle this either, of course, but it's certainly true they'll be hard to carry on

00:20:38.880 as normal now. What a tragedy that Europe's premier military power has reduced to this state,

00:20:42.800 a situation which both mainstream parties bear responsibility there you go uh and uh starmer

00:20:49.660 replied uh we can't fund free breakfast clubs and bullets i choose middle class children's toast i'm

00:20:55.120 sorry john has joined the far right but he'll be feeling the full force of the law i do love

00:20:59.200 burn side side always always is a great tweet um dan javis has now taken it in this impossible job

00:21:05.660 people was like well who will take this in this this is a poison chalice harry cole said you'd

00:21:10.040 have to be an absolute weasel take and i'll do it but people say you know he's got a decent track

00:21:16.960 record but he now has to come in and do something impossible which is say right you've not given me

00:21:20.420 the budget he's got to make he's got to be a magician and produce a rabbit out of hat this

00:21:25.300 but he is symptomatic of labor and how everyone's just unremarkable utterly unimpressive and so when

00:21:30.880 people said oh who will possibly do this job well actually anyone will do any job because they're

00:21:35.820 only there to be in parliament it doesn't matter what their portfolio is it doesn't matter that

00:21:39.180 the they're the they're the dodo lady by government they're on the brink of extinction

00:21:42.240 they're just going to take the opportunity it's given to them because they're not really fit for

00:21:46.480 doing you get another 140 grand a year for being a cabinet minister so yeah at least charvis has

00:21:51.280 some sort of impressive background whereas people like darren jones you've got these ones who just

00:21:54.780 line up to just do like say the starmer drone do the sort of starmer dirty work anyway that was

00:22:00.560 that um starmer hangs on for now somehow but you never know by the time this goes out he could be

00:22:06.920 gone if he has any shame which he doesn't anyway so it's all falling apart that is my bit i should

00:22:12.580 have done axe girl but you're doing it later yes well you can chip in on that one um oh no comments

00:22:18.100 you want to bring one up harry

00:22:18.960 ah yes it is excellent so the hit pieces against restore britain keep coming the crash out is

00:22:30.840 protracted and it's because i think reformer feeling hot breath on the back of their neck

00:22:36.580 uh and rupert lowe laughing it's sort of you can hear the song the halls and the mountain king

00:22:41.400 slowly building behind them and i just thought i'd cover the latest round of them and they begin

00:22:46.940 this this crash out from the last two days begins with a secret labor poll published in the eye so

00:22:53.400 there was a poll that the labor conducted it was a constituency poll for makerfield and they show

00:22:58.280 that restore is on about 13 percent reform is on 24 percent and burnham is on 35 percent now there

00:23:05.920 are conflicting accounts of course from our lads down in makerfield reminder by the way that this

00:23:11.620 weekend is the last time that yes have us so if you are so inclined you're welcome to go down there

00:23:16.200 i mean to make the point lily if you want your country back you have to do the work

00:23:19.200 so do the work yes and it seems that that work is um paying off with restore because we're seeing

00:23:24.660 that the gap between the early canvassing projections

00:23:28.000 that Rupert put out, which was 24% in favour of Restore,

00:23:30.600 and the successive servation polls

00:23:32.700 that only put them at 7% or 8%

00:23:34.080 begin to close with other parties' internal canvassing results,

00:23:36.940 which seem a bit more reliable

00:23:37.920 than these small sample-sized polls

00:23:40.100 that have been uncharacteristically scarce

00:23:43.240 for such a prominent by-election.

00:23:45.520 So in this piece,

00:23:46.360 they asked some conservative and reform sources to respond.

00:23:49.300 And there's a conservative member of the Shadow Cabinet

00:23:51.040 who visited Makerfield at the weekend

00:23:52.700 and said that Restore was benefiting

00:23:54.400 from an almost exclusively online campaign well they're showing up in person so that's

00:24:00.320 immediately a daft thing to say isn't it considering there's barely any conservative

00:24:04.120 canvases out there and you're going to lose your deposit and he says getting restored supporters

00:24:08.240 to actually cast their ballot would be a bigger ask this is the angry white working class whether

00:24:12.380 they will actually vote is another question i wonder mr tory mp what made the white working

00:24:16.300 class so angry is it possibly they lent their vote to you in 2019 and you utterly betrayed 0.98

00:24:20.300 them by swamping their towns and cities with dodgy vape shops africans and indians yeah might 1.00

00:24:25.320 might well be that but the most and bear in mind tories you won the red wall right and and you 1.00

00:24:31.660 pissed it away immediately and you won't again the most interesting quotes come uh from not just not

00:24:38.460 just this the uh this tory mp saying that um restore are gaining people because it's the long

00:24:45.080 marchers the purists who are most upset with farage it's anger at letting all those tories

00:24:48.400 into reform but it's bigger than that it's all the compromises he's had to make so people yeah

00:24:51.980 they did notice when faraj said i'm not going to do mass deportations we can't alienate islam

00:24:55.740 here's nadim zahawi we decided to stand him down as our foreign affairs spokesperson even though 0.70

00:25:00.160 that was our plan he's saying that people are hemorrhaging away from reform because they have

00:25:04.520 not they don't have a vote of confidence in faraj's leadership even if the policies start to

00:25:08.860 converge especially if they start to converge the election becomes a referendum on who do you trust

00:25:13.340 to deliver those policies that everyone is promising and increasingly faraj doesn't have

00:25:17.120 people's vote of confidence but the most interesting quotes in here were from reform

00:25:22.260 mps they said among reform parliamentarians there are mixed reviews on whether or not restore is

00:25:28.320 anything but a flash in the pan uh one mp dismissed the idea that restore could actually poll more

00:25:33.900 than single figures next thursday their vote is really soft it'll be nowhere near that on the day

00:25:37.360 i doubt they'll get over two percent i think that's probably tice all right characteristic

00:25:41.200 arrogance but someone else said and this is again a second reform mp something important

00:25:46.660 is happening which is that voters are looking for seriousness and authenticity and they actually

00:25:50.640 see in rupert what they don't see in nigel a reform mp is saying that which one's about to

00:25:56.380 lose the whip take bets they say they like nigel's energy and optimism and sort of punk style

00:26:00.980 suppose if you enjoy butlins rupert is more to the right more of a rabble rouser the danger to

00:26:05.580 us is he's more of a plausible version of reform because he's new and they say rupert isn't a good

00:26:10.460 communicator he's not a good speaker he's not quick like nigel some people might say you know

00:26:13.800 slick a bit like a used car salesman but they say my anxiety is people think nigel is old news by

00:26:19.680 the virtue of being around for years where they think they've discovered some new brand it sounds

00:26:24.580 like generic if well i i wonder if it's poaching that would be my guess oh could be yeah she's

00:26:29.280 been she's been the most based and also she's quite friendly with rupert you've seen them

00:26:32.620 chatting to each other in yeah and she's the she's the only one that politely disengaged with the

00:26:37.580 rape gang inquiry and actually responded to the invitation she recently said import the third

00:26:41.800 world become the third world yeah i've got another reason to sign the i doubted sarah poach an

00:26:45.560 apology film i suppose anyway so these sort of returns are coming back um because now there's

00:26:51.300 a poll in the telegraph that suggests 19 of reform voters in 2024 will break for a store so that's

00:26:57.000 800 000 people from the off i mean that's again nowhere near national parliamentary majority that

00:27:02.300 vote will be dispersed across the country it'll be hard to win by elections nevertheless there is

00:27:06.120 the trickling of a preference cascade towards restore that would be at least matched by people

00:27:11.300 who don't vote yes and uh low actually responded to this and and i think this summarizes how uh

00:27:17.040 quite a few people think because of course faros just dismissed this as oh well elon musk is

00:27:21.100 boosting him on x so therefore he's going to get that um bear in mind musk doesn't own facebook

00:27:25.140 and he's eating your lunch on there so you need an explanation but low said to the telegraph

00:27:28.160 increasing numbers of reform 2024 voters are coming to restore britain in makerfield that

00:27:31.960 number will be far higher we're not in this to make friends in the establishment and they

00:27:35.980 certainly haven't restore britain is going to destroy the establishment real change is coming

00:27:39.460 and radical change is exactly what this country needs,

00:27:41.520 not mere reform, but restoration.

00:27:43.360 Why go for a tacky knock-off cheeseburger

00:27:45.700 when you can enjoy the full tenderloin?

00:27:48.040 And it seems that increasing number of people

00:27:49.840 in Makerfield are opting for steak

00:27:52.060 because we have a quite astonishing new clip

00:27:54.860 from our intrepid reporter, Luca Johnson,

00:27:57.120 who is on the ground. 1.00

00:27:58.160 We decided to send the Northerners up, lads.

00:27:59.820 We Southern Puffters weren't allowed on the doorsteps there.

00:28:03.040 Will I get nosebleeds if I go north of the M25?

00:28:05.460 Well, anywhere beyond Luton is the north, so.

00:28:07.960 Yeah, obviously.

00:28:09.460 But there's some fascinating footage where there's an entire street of reform signs

00:28:13.500 that within one conversation with the canvassers, all flipped to restore.

00:28:18.400 We're now up in Northmakerfield.

00:28:20.960 And as you can see here from behind me, this is a very, very strong street for Reform UK.

00:28:27.720 However, I will just say that we have heard murmurings, rumours about

00:28:32.040 that actually there's going to be a bit of an event happening later on.

00:28:36.340 Well, as you can see, a street that once had garden signs for Reform UK now has a full array of signs for Restore Britain.

00:28:46.660 The gentlemen and the homeowners didn't wish to actually be on camera themselves,

00:28:50.540 but it was really something to see as all of the Reform UK banners were put down and Restore Britain have gone up.

00:28:57.660 They were waiting for something like Restore Britain to come along, but they were thinking of waiting for 2029.

00:29:03.660 But they've decided to strike out ahead, they've been inspired by the message of Restore Britain, they've been inspired by the message of Rupert Lowe and what he's been doing in Parliament, and they've also been very inspired by the message of Rebecca Shepard, the candidate for Restore Britain here in Makerfield as well, particularly with some of the residents of these houses having, of course, younger daughters as well and being very concerned for the safety of their daughters,

00:29:32.420 obviously with all of the horrors that we're seeing now you know sort of happening on a weekly

00:29:37.120 basis around the united kingdom and so that's something that's really struck well and obviously

00:29:42.740 changed their support to restore britain so patriots in control thank you luca i do think

00:29:51.620 it's also interesting just looking at the composition of the cars on the driveway

00:29:54.040 obviously there is a mercedes there but it's interesting to contrast with the reports from

00:29:58.680 the labour canvases in the eye because at the top of that article they said if there's a Porsche on

00:30:02.340 drive you know they're voting labor yes whereas that entire road in north makerfield or for a

00:30:08.240 living yes quite they're not diversity coordinators but i mean that clip is absolutely

00:30:12.600 brilliant it just absolutely demonstrates the point that okay so look makerfield there's

00:30:16.620 probably 20 000 residences in in makerfield and even after several weeks of canvases going down

00:30:23.080 there um there are plenty thousands of homes have never been knocked up so if you do have any time

00:30:28.980 free over the next week before thursday to go down there and chip in with restore it can make

00:30:33.780 a difference they went down that one street and they flipped the whole street yeah so it makes a

00:30:38.380 little bit less convincing when reform try to deny the poll that i read out to you before

00:30:43.200 there's a another piece in the daily mail because the daily mail have grown quite desperate um i

00:30:48.020 think in the in the defense of in the defense of reform at this point uh there's a reform uk

00:30:51.880 spokesperson who has said in here this data from the i newspaper comes without transparency has

00:30:57.020 no published tables and is complete hearsay.

00:31:00.620 Unfortunately,

00:31:01.380 it turns out that the poll itself

00:31:03.080 was conducted with a sample of 1,119

00:31:05.360 make-filled voters between June 4 and 6.

00:31:07.320 That's the biggest yet. It is, yeah.

00:31:08.460 It's way bigger than the one they've been putting in their flyers from

00:31:10.540 That was 300. Yeah.

00:31:12.840 Yeah. And it's also representatively sampled

00:31:14.980 So it's four times the size

00:31:16.520 and apparently this is the bad poll.

00:31:19.000 Yeah, because it puts them

00:31:20.460 well beyond the ability

00:31:22.900 margin of victory. Yeah, so

00:31:24.400 a little bit awkward. But of course,

00:31:26.340 hit pieces keep coming in the Daily Mail because people

00:31:28.320 think that, of course, the Ming Vars

00:31:30.220 they've been carrying towards Downing Street is very much on the line

00:31:32.500 and they might trip before they get there.

00:31:34.880 Here's one from the Daily Mail

00:31:36.400 today. How giant egos, a poisonous feud

00:31:38.420 and the many faces of Rupert Lowe are set to saddle

00:31:40.400 Britain with Burnham.

00:31:42.380 There was a

00:31:43.700 Fort Reform source quoted in here and they said

00:31:46.420 our campaign against labour has

00:31:48.420 been positive and grown up. We aren't at each other's

00:31:50.540 throats and everyone's behaving but with Restore things

00:31:52.360 have become toxic, they're throwing mud and some

00:31:54.420 of it's sticking they're worried they are worried that people are pointing out on the doorstep well

00:32:00.060 you are just a tory recycling bin and so how can we trust you to clean up the mess that you have

00:32:06.100 made and there are quotes again from reform hq it's quite a leaky enterprise these days um there

00:32:13.000 was this hilarious piece which is the best spectator cover ever of rupert griefing nigel

00:32:17.740 in minecraft and in this they quote another anonymous reform source it's interesting they're

00:32:22.480 always anonymous there are different shades of opinion within reform about restore most view

00:32:26.600 the party is an irritant but some see certain benefits quote it made us up our game admits

00:32:31.620 one figure because we had someone to the right of us i think it's actually made it clearer about

00:32:35.420 what we want yeah to me sounds like gawain or possibly tim montgomery because i've heard gawain

00:32:41.080 say a similar thing to that on on a podcast it's like okay yeah it's clear we're not there and we're

00:32:45.340 something different and he's usually a bit more reasonable than some so it's wayne's more reasonable

00:32:50.100 Well, he's more reasonable than a Matt Goodwin, for example.

00:32:52.620 Gwaine's used ChatGPT to write Substack articles saying that we need a diverse Britain

00:32:56.380 and that Layla Cunningham is representative of Anglican Muslims.

00:33:00.080 We can have Anglican Sikhs and Jews.

00:33:01.880 What I mean is he's more reasonable towards Restore.

00:33:04.800 For example, he said that if people join Restore, it's maybe a mark against them,

00:33:08.760 but they should be welcomed back, whereas some people have gone all-out war on Restore.

00:33:13.840 Yes, I would wager that this is actually someone close to Zia's team

00:33:18.060 Gazir understands the value of Restore,

00:33:21.760 despite inadvertently creating it

00:33:23.900 with the false police report against Rupert,

00:33:25.740 and now understands that the votes lie to his right.

00:33:28.020 This didn't need to exist.

00:33:29.320 And so you now need to get into competition with Restore

00:33:31.740 for credibility on the issues

00:33:33.020 that Farage disastrously disavowed a few minutes before.

00:33:36.320 So they're actually appreciative

00:33:37.240 there's an external force dragging the party in the direction

00:33:39.600 that other people that are contesting for the leadership

00:33:41.820 don't want to take it in,

00:33:42.940 like a Richard Tice or a Lois Perry or something.

00:33:45.820 It should have been obvious,

00:33:46.840 but it was such an own goal

00:33:47.880 as you've sort of pointed out already with Faraj

00:33:49.760 saying these things about mass deportations are impossible

00:33:51.580 we will lose to Islam which he says three times

00:33:54.040 in a row in that interview with Winston Marshall 0.59

00:33:55.820 and just all the rhetoric

00:33:57.900 constantly signaling against anyone

00:33:59.820 on the right and of course the treatment of Rupert

00:34:02.020 it was all a complete own goal wasn't it? 0.81

00:34:03.480 And so were all the Tory defectives, you didn't need to welcome Nadim

00:34:05.840 Doris and Nadim Zahawi and Robert Jenrick in

00:34:07.680 with fireworks and fanfare

00:34:09.120 as well as all of the Indian national

00:34:11.700 labour candidates and the Boris 0.96

00:34:12.880 you didn't need to step on these rakes guys 0.66

00:34:15.580 the rake of Nadim Zahawi

00:34:17.440 insane yeah yeah and and and a lot of the overreaction to restore i think is because

00:34:22.520 they realize all of these wounds are self-inflicted and they're now inextricable from the project of

00:34:27.080 reform because lots of people are sensing this i mean scarlet mcguire who does uh excellent work

00:34:32.960 um on polling for merlin strategies pointed out the the restore vote isn't as simple as wanting

00:34:37.580 something to the right of reform they they do put that pressure on reform but it's not just that

00:34:41.940 instead there's a sense among some that reform will turn out to be like other politicians that

00:34:47.000 have let them down and i wonder why they would get that impression in the week of the belfast attack

00:34:52.200 or when it turns out that suella suella braveman and robert jenrick supervised the asylum fast

00:34:58.420 track scheme that let the attacker into the country so in 2023 in february i think it was

00:35:03.760 there was a fast track scheme that allowed uh what was it eritreans afghans sudanese libyans

00:35:12.780 and there was one more as well you could never have enough of them yemenis yes exactly well

00:35:16.680 just gdp rocket fuel isn't it yes and they allowed the the head chopper in chief into the country

00:35:20.860 you know this chap just just strengthening diversity well i don't know if you got it but

00:35:25.480 there's a i think there's a over tweet or post or or just parliamentary thing from um robert

00:35:30.420 jenrick yes in 2023 in september saying the uk is proud to have welcomed sudanese nationals through

00:35:35.340 both our uk resettlement proud of the sudanese nationals yeah the same as the 2022 afghan

00:35:41.520 resettlement article that he published in the telegraph saying it's a national project see it's

00:35:45.960 It's a total betrayal from Sunak.

00:35:48.020 Jenrick, that's very bad as well.

00:35:49.540 He might say he resigned, but that was, of course, over Rwanda.

00:35:52.760 Suella, I suppose, might say, well, she was sacked by Sunak,

00:35:55.020 so she might argue she pushed back on some of this.

00:35:56.800 I do think she actually tried within the Home Office,

00:35:58.620 but she just wasn't very effective.

00:35:59.960 And so the argument you now have to make to the public

00:36:02.360 who aren't as politically engaged as we are is,

00:36:04.360 number one, okay, well, you failed at your job.

00:36:06.140 Why should we give you another go?

00:36:07.460 And two, even if they don't know that narrative,

00:36:09.360 they're just going to see you, a Tory,

00:36:11.380 standing at Sir Nigel Farage in the red wall and go,

00:36:13.560 well, I don't want more Tories.

00:36:14.960 You just didn't need to do this to yourselves, lads.

00:36:16.760 And so there's no point getting angry at Restore about it.

00:36:19.060 Instead, Rupert proposes something different.

00:36:20.960 He's proposed deporting literally every one of the people that was given a visa

00:36:25.000 by Jemmerich, Suella, and Sunak back to wherever they came from.

00:36:29.680 And this is, of course, an even more contentious step than Reforma prepared to go to,

00:36:34.200 because many of these people were automatically given indefinite leave to remain,

00:36:37.280 and so some of them may have citizenship now.

00:36:40.140 And so that means we have officially crossed the Rubicon in order to keep this promise

00:36:42.700 for stripping citizenship.

00:36:44.540 Okay, well, do that then.

00:36:46.020 Exactly.

00:36:46.580 I mean, if we can give them citizenship,

00:36:48.700 we can take citizenship. 0.78

00:36:49.820 Yes, it's almost like there was a caller into LBC

00:36:52.400 that expressed this exact sentiment the other day.

00:36:54.960 I'm just going to play this because...

00:36:55.740 Oh, this is good.

00:36:56.700 Because this is someone wanting the steak

00:36:59.720 rather than the plastic American cheeseburger.

00:37:02.440 And if you just decide you want the steak,

00:37:04.520 then they've got no arguments against it. 0.96

00:37:05.580 And shitty Lord Varys here isn't having any of it. 0.96

00:37:10.700 This country will remain almost ungovernable 0.97

00:37:13.500 until we have mass deportations i mean we consistently voted conservative we voted for

00:37:18.440 brexit the politicians just seem to turn around throw it all back in our faces and say here you

00:37:23.280 go have record levels of immigration instead and i think the very base of this whole thing

00:37:28.340 that is this problem just a massive disconnect between the political class and the people of

00:37:33.120 this country who have never given any consent to this and there's certainly no mandate for the

00:37:38.320 scale of immigration we're seeing to this country but you can't go as far as certainly restore have 0.80

00:37:44.540 gone and indeed um reform have gone i think too far on this too to deport people who are here 0.57

00:37:51.900 perfectly legally you mean you mean end indefinitely to remain well you can do that for

00:37:58.660 future people but you can't do that for people who've already got it i mean that would be

00:38:02.440 outrageous surely you can yeah of course you can i mean it's easily we can do it so people who are

00:38:07.820 here perfectly legally you think should be deported from a basic humanity point of view

00:38:12.480 from a fairness point of view you can't suddenly tell people who've got a perfect legal right to

00:38:18.240 be here that oh we're changing the rules now um so you'll have you'll have to go i mean that that

00:38:23.280 you cannot do that well you can do that but is that really the kind of country you want to live

00:38:29.000 in yes but you can't take it out on perfectly legal law-abiding people who are here perfectly

00:38:35.480 legally that that is not i think the kind of country that britain is if the law is we're just

00:38:41.780 going to demographically swamp you and take your country away from you then the law itself is wrong 0.90

00:38:45.920 so breaking that law or changing that law is the right thing to do this guy's such a wanker but 0.92

00:38:50.300 his whole argument is but they've got a piece of paper they've got it they we've given them a piece 0.89

00:38:56.900 of paper there's nothing that you can do now on the moment i become king i'm going to spend an

00:39:02.200 entire saturday building a trebuchet and launching lbc presenters into the sea because they are just

00:39:07.680 vile all of them they talk like the boris wave is the magna carta i mean this is something we did

00:39:13.640 10 minutes ago complete massive heinous mistake done for absurd reasons done due to a mistake

00:39:19.940 thinking that we needed to remand jobs after covid massively getting it wrong and now it's like oh

00:39:26.120 they've got a god-given right no you just say to them sorry that was a very unpopular policy we

00:39:30.260 made a big mistake we've ruined the country SARS you're going back I mean that's not that outrageous

00:39:34.680 I love the way the guys just know them you can in it's just so sensible I mean you're absolutely

00:39:39.760 right these guys did not kick up this much of a fuss when they did actually overturn the Magna

00:39:44.880 Carta and start getting rid of jury trial so yeah like a thousand year president yeah you can't

00:39:49.960 yeah fine okay it's a bit awkward but okay fine you can do that but the Boris wave no that's set

00:39:55.220 in stone it's also like I can put on a dress and call myself Gertrude and he'll recognize me as a

00:39:59.400 woman but the moment you turn around and say well okay we're just by administrative fiat people can

00:40:04.900 just go back to their countries of origin oh no we can't do that that's a long settled precedent

00:40:08.380 i'm a conservative don't you know so the the point being you can just tell them no you can just say

00:40:14.040 we're going to do this we have to do this we can do this and they don't have any arguments against

00:40:18.620 you they just look at you like brendan fraser from the whale so the fact that more and more people

00:40:23.360 are doing this in part empowered by rupert lowe's mantra of i don't care like i don't care if you

00:40:28.900 know lbc are upset at this actually i do in that it's entertaining but beyond that i don't care

00:40:32.780 more and more people recognize this even the americans recognize it because katie balls

00:40:36.640 used to work for spectator is now the dc correspondent for the times is saying a lot

00:40:40.480 of people on capitol hill are coming up to me and asking how's rupert lowe doing now this is uh

00:40:45.500 alien to them but of course we've got quite a few american viewers including quite a few people

00:40:49.140 that work on capitol hill and they recognize that uh restore britain are the steak versus

00:40:55.060 the american cheeseburger that they're quite fond of and so the um the the more pragmatism or just

00:41:01.140 the the taste for authenticity is popping that westminster bubble well and to that point a lot

00:41:05.860 of people here think rupert lowe is at least on the brink of a coalition government they're saying

00:41:10.360 that as if oh no of course he isn't what the americans are saying is the momentum yes they're

00:41:14.800 seeing where this will be by the next election yes and i think so is farage because he was asked

00:41:20.640 about this by Sky News, and it generated the infamous image of Farage placing his head

00:41:28.560 in his hands, which is coming quite a trend at the moment, actually. I think he looks

00:41:32.360 a bit tired.

00:41:32.880 This has got to be the standard meme now.

00:41:35.040 When it comes to Makerfield, restore our doing well here, and it could really help, it could

00:41:41.060 really hurt you. What's Rupert Lowe got that it's appealing to some people over you? Thank

00:41:47.980 you very much elon musk thank you um i mean most people here who say restore by the way it's not

00:41:56.720 a very big percentage most people here would not recognize a photograph of him right this is stuff

00:42:02.980 that pops up on their phones that has been the problem with it i do not believe for a moment it

00:42:08.400 will last when you said in our previous political chat dan the in a game of poker people's body

00:42:15.780 language and their actions betray what they actually believe not what they say i would say

00:42:20.120 that putting your head in your hands as you say i don't believe it would last after having previously

00:42:23.760 said he won't get one percent in great yarmouth and having previously said he was just one angry

00:42:27.120 man with a twitter account i would say that that demonstrates that farrell just feeding the

00:42:30.700 pressure wouldn't you i mean that the body language there right years ago i i watched a guy have a

00:42:35.640 complete brain fart and just drive into the back of a parked car right and he immediately did that

00:42:42.100 it's the exact thing that

00:42:44.140 Farage

00:42:44.540 just a completely optional car crash

00:42:48.000 what the hell have I done

00:42:49.980 yes

00:42:51.080 he's done what he's always done

00:42:52.820 except he underestimated Rupert Lowe

00:42:54.660 he underestimated his resolve

00:42:55.880 and what a following he could garner

00:42:57.980 and how badly the treatment of him would go down

00:43:00.460 amongst the base

00:43:01.200 and Rupert's been swanning around Makerfield

00:43:04.640 and actually campaigning with Rebecca Shepard

00:43:06.220 so I would wager quite a few people know him on the doorstep

00:43:08.340 and it seems that lots of people know Rupert Lowe

00:43:10.700 because the spectre of Rupert Lowe is haunting Farage wherever he goes.

00:43:14.160 Because Politico have written up some problems that Farage has had

00:43:17.740 on his various sort of press stops.

00:43:21.640 One senior official in the Labour Party,

00:43:25.180 sorry, one problem with reform raised on the doorsteps in Makerfield

00:43:28.720 is Farage's embrace of former Conservatives.

00:43:33.620 So this is a consistent pattern.

00:43:34.860 People in the Red Wall don't want to vote Conservatives.

00:43:36.640 Those kind of Tories are a huge turn-off to former lifelong Labour voters,

00:43:39.640 according to Labour officials. So far, the reform strategy has been to try and speak about Restore

00:43:43.880 as little as possible. However, Politico has observed voters wavering over whether to back

00:43:48.500 restore or reform both in Makerfield and elsewhere in Britain. At a campaign stop for Farage in East

00:43:52.700 London's Romford Market, as May's local elections loomed, a mum with a pram heckled Farage with

00:43:57.580 chants of, it's all about Rupert Lowe. A butcher told the reform leader, it was either you or

00:44:01.440 Rupert Lowe, before taking Reform's anti-Star Messiah and hanging it up on one of the meat

00:44:06.080 hooks. Bear in mind, Restore haven't stood in Romford at the time, so he could only vote for

00:44:10.840 reform at the time. Even Andrew Rosendale has recognised that there's a threat to splitting

00:44:15.280 their vote. And in here, they then go and talk to Rupert, and they try to use various contentious

00:44:20.280 figures online. Yes, of course, it's Steve Laws again, and the eternal bogeyman of Tommy Robinson

00:44:24.920 against Rupert. And Lowe said he doesn't harbour Steve's position. Steve Laws' position is not his

00:44:32.700 position he says it's again an attempt by people like yourself to spread rumors and mistrust where

00:44:37.720 it's not deserved he said laws is very welcome to support restore britain he has no part in our

00:44:41.720 decision making process but you know he's just a member and he said as of tommy robinson he praised

00:44:45.880 his work on the rape gangs he didn't know if he was a member but he also said he's fine to be a

00:44:49.000 member too what rupert has learned is you don't need to disavow your base for the approval of the

00:44:52.120 media whereas farrold has done that and he's created rupert lowe as a rod for his own back

00:44:55.840 yeah and that's quite a new thing to just say well they can vote for us if they want they're

00:44:59.940 not in the party no one else has ever done that even ben habib who talked about doing that one

00:45:04.180 of the big things he said was we don't care what people have tweeted in the past but then he started

00:45:07.320 saying well this this person's tweeted something he's done it here literally ben habib spoke to

00:45:11.400 politico and said he has concerns about the party he said i don't see how you can wish to restore

00:45:16.300 the country's democracy through a dictatorship so immediately demanding that rupert relinquish power

00:45:20.940 um actually i think you do need some decisive power because the problem we have is bureaucracy

00:45:25.340 and he said

00:45:26.320 he raises

00:45:27.380 restores repugnant

00:45:28.240 support from 0.74

00:45:28.700 ethno-nationalists

00:45:29.460 I see but

00:45:29.760 okay man

00:45:30.800 if you're just

00:45:31.260 gonna immediately

00:45:32.180 jump aboard the

00:45:32.820 bandwagon and

00:45:33.420 demand that people

00:45:34.120 start infighting

00:45:35.300 and disavowing

00:45:35.780 each other

00:45:36.220 it's not helpful

00:45:36.880 yeah it's strange

00:45:37.780 because Ben

00:45:38.160 specifically said

00:45:38.800 that he said

00:45:39.140 we don't care

00:45:39.700 what people tweet

00:45:40.520 we won't be

00:45:41.240 disavowing people

00:45:41.840 and then it's

00:45:42.200 immediately done it

00:45:43.240 so I don't

00:45:44.380 understand that

00:45:44.900 sorry Ben

00:45:45.320 you're just not

00:45:45.640 the guy

00:45:45.860 I'm not the guy

00:45:46.860 you're not the guy

00:45:47.500 just gonna have to

00:45:47.940 accept that you're

00:45:48.340 not the guy

00:45:48.660 at the moment

00:45:49.160 Rupert's the guy

00:45:49.780 I mean he had a

00:45:50.300 party he gave it

00:45:51.140 a try

00:45:51.460 everybody else thought he's not the guy

00:45:53.600 yeah and then resorted to calling everyone racist

00:45:55.780 despite having dinner with them for years

00:45:56.920 anyway the press have started attacking as well of course

00:45:59.420 there's a Bloomberg piece saying that

00:46:01.200 Britain is being dragged into a very ugly place

00:46:03.600 and yet again they

00:46:04.760 give restore

00:46:07.360 the position of

00:46:09.000 that it is the driving force

00:46:11.520 in politics and it's what's putting enough

00:46:13.360 pressure on reform to cave to

00:46:15.340 restore's incentives so the

00:46:17.400 media are acknowledging restore as their

00:46:19.560 true opposition because they're more comfortable

00:46:21.420 with Farage, because they know that Farage will disavow his own base, he is worried about their

00:46:25.280 insults, and he will capitulate on certain issues. So, in here, she says,

00:46:29.780 Reform's ambition in Makefield could be thwarted by Restore Britain, the similarly monikered rival

00:46:33.920 that has seized advantage of Farage's shifting of the Overton window and set up camp even further

00:46:37.960 to the far right. It isn't just bad news for Reform. Restore's social media march into culture

00:46:42.660 war zones such as climate change and social cohesion is profoundly depressing. What,

00:46:46.600 talking about the issue, rather than just ignoring it and pretending that we can all 1.00

00:46:49.600 hold hands with every Pashtun rapist and African stabberants in Kumbaya. 1.00

00:46:54.240 Reform has, at times, been unable or unwilling to weed out election candidates 1.00

00:46:57.880 who voice views that are abhorrently racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, blah blah blah blah blah.

00:47:01.980 And it hasn't been strong enough on condemning mobs targeting asylum seekers.

00:47:05.320 Once you're into this ugly world, what's to stop anti-immigration voters

00:47:08.840 from jumping all the way into Restore Britain's arms?

00:47:11.560 Now, if Bloomberg writers are worried about that,

00:47:13.900 you can bet your bottom dollar that someone at Reform HQ

00:47:16.220 is also worried about that preference cascade.

00:47:19.220 The Guardian have cottoned onto it.

00:47:20.400 They've put out two pieces in the last couple of days.

00:47:22.480 They're terrified that Restore is actually who they say they are. 0.89

00:47:25.760 Because they think, of course, that Farage is a bit of a grifter.

00:47:28.320 He's not really in it for saving the country.

00:47:30.120 He's taking five million quid from Christopher Harbour and he's doing cameos.

00:47:32.980 They're worried that Rupert Lowe himself is actually as radical as he says he is

00:47:38.100 and the young men around him say they are.

00:47:40.880 That's why they're popular.

00:47:43.620 People want the steak.

00:47:45.320 Lowe sometimes comes across like an old-fashioned conservative headliner

00:47:47.700 but gripped by even more right-wing ideas he recently described himself as a true tory if i

00:47:51.760 were anything yet much of the style and content of restore's politics comes from the much younger

00:47:55.260 clearly more ideological men such as ultra-conservative writer and activist harrison

00:47:59.460 pitt good lad and they finish this off with just quaking with fear with low as its sole mp and like

00:48:06.500 reform largely bypassing parliament restore is changing the atmosphere of politics such as the

00:48:11.300 ominous state of our democracy again the guardian are afraid you're doing something right the part

00:48:16.760 that bothered me was they quoted harrison saying homogenous whereas he always says homogeneous which

00:48:20.740 is the correct term so uh niche um can i ask you though this is a controversial point

00:48:27.060 how do you feel about restore standing in makeville because i never quite understood

00:48:31.420 the wisdom of it even though i totally respected people should vote for who they want i wasn't

00:48:35.420 wasn't really a splitting the vote type person because i hate the arrogance of reform they're

00:48:39.520 a new party they don't own your vote there was the toys were saying the same about reform 10

00:48:43.800 minutes ago matt goodwin launching all these unnecessary attacks against restore very

00:48:48.300 unpalatable so i understand all that and i totally have on so i don't think anyone like

00:48:52.480 owned your vote at the same time i've never quite seen the wisdom of standing when

00:48:56.220 it gives you burn and i suppose it builds momentum for a restore it makes them a serious prospect

00:49:00.360 that's the argument for it in the future they could do well in a general election people need

00:49:04.420 a right-wing party to vote yes and they need they don't have one yes i understand all that so yeah

00:49:08.460 i don't understand both sides i'm saying it more controversial is the only thing is people say well

00:49:13.280 then you'll get burnham and the counter to that is well reform have been saying get rid of starmer

00:49:17.800 why are they so scared of burnham but the only strong argument there is burnham gets in he gets

00:49:22.340 a slight bump because he is the most popular labour candidate in the country he polls best 0.95

00:49:27.420 he gets in snap election before anyone realizes he's crap and isn't going to do anything and then

00:49:32.180 they labour win especially with tactical voting on the left that is an angle where you say okay 0.93

00:49:36.600 restore could put burnham in what do you say to that because i don't think burnham can reverse

00:49:41.320 Labour's fortunes

00:49:42.160 and whether or not

00:49:42.740 he calls a snap election

00:49:43.580 or waits a few years

00:49:44.380 to do it

00:49:44.780 because Labour 0.61

00:49:45.960 are a contaminated brand

00:49:47.160 but do you think

00:49:47.920 he could win

00:49:48.700 where Starmer couldn't

00:49:49.540 and just edge it

00:49:50.300 with a sort of

00:49:50.840 coalition-y thing

00:49:51.600 or tactical voting

00:49:52.400 in the election

00:49:52.900 potentially

00:49:53.660 but then you have

00:49:54.680 what

00:49:55.140 a four-year government

00:49:56.480 that continues

00:49:57.620 the same path

00:49:58.520 of managed decline

00:49:59.220 and just radicalises

00:49:59.960 people further

00:50:00.600 and they're dead

00:50:01.840 either way

00:50:02.140 you're not going to fix

00:50:03.360 any of the fundamental problems

00:50:04.440 so the current

00:50:05.180 political project

00:50:05.880 cannot stay afloat

00:50:06.740 and also

00:50:07.480 regarding

00:50:08.240 wanting reform

00:50:09.680 to stop

00:50:11.180 burner i've got nothing no ill will against rob kenyon seems like a decent guy seems like one of

00:50:15.760 our guys if anything um it is a shame the party haven't stood behind him and as i said just told

00:50:19.920 him to capitulate and apologize endlessly for old social media jokes but the rest of the party are

00:50:24.280 just disreputable people like that the price of admission to reform has been betrayal and so if

00:50:28.760 they betrayed us to get into reform they will betray us when they are in government they don't

00:50:32.840 even like each other and so i don't think that their project is actually sustainable i think

00:50:35.800 it's going to come undone by just the viciousness of the people being each other's throats being

00:50:40.260 cowardly just in it for power and say i i just don't trust them to be a viable replacement even

00:50:46.120 if they want the snap election tomorrow yeah so just quickly on the burning point i guarantee

00:50:49.600 what will happen is if he wins if he becomes prime minister you'll then immediately get

00:50:53.840 articles that says that he needs three years to demonstrate why he's different and what he can do

00:50:57.920 yeah yeah but he won't do anything different all indications are he's a complete

00:51:02.200 flip-flopper with he would but he in his imagination yeah give him three years and

00:51:07.300 here's a different angle as well

00:51:08.680 which I've heard

00:51:09.260 that it's bad for

00:51:10.820 I don't really agree with this one

00:51:11.800 but some people say

00:51:12.320 it's bad for Restore's PR

00:51:13.500 because they'll be the people

00:51:14.440 that got Burnham in

00:51:15.160 I don't really think so

00:51:16.200 because I think the Restore base

00:51:17.100 doesn't care about that

00:51:18.260 but anyway

00:51:18.980 just some

00:51:19.580 Burnham was always a favourite

00:51:21.840 he picked this seat for a reason

00:51:23.220 he could have

00:51:23.980 he could have had any Manchester seat

00:51:25.400 and he picked this one

00:51:26.140 I have a lot of people in my reply

00:51:27.040 saying of course Burnham won't win

00:51:28.500 quite arrogantly

00:51:29.140 but he's still the massive favourite

00:51:30.500 he's got the whole labour machine

00:51:31.480 behind him

00:51:31.900 I think Burnham will

00:51:32.520 he's got a long history

00:51:33.120 right

00:51:33.420 he's up against a plumber

00:51:34.640 this is David and Goliath

00:51:36.520 people have underestimated

00:51:37.220 I've had so many people

00:51:37.860 arrogantly tell me

00:51:38.460 of course Burnham won't win

00:51:39.700 he's the massive favourite

00:51:40.840 because he's

00:51:41.660 a well established politician

00:51:42.780 liked in the north

00:51:43.660 with huge machinery behind him

00:51:45.120 huge slickness

00:51:45.900 versus a plumber 0.72

00:51:46.940 and another new candidate

00:51:47.980 so of course

00:51:49.340 he's a favourite right?

00:51:50.340 Yeah

00:51:50.420 so what Restore

00:51:51.780 are basically competing for

00:51:52.820 whether or not they can win

00:51:53.760 is to see

00:51:55.300 whether or not

00:51:56.260 their ground game

00:51:56.740 can be proven in a by-election

00:51:57.740 and whether or not

00:51:59.220 they can

00:51:59.960 turn out more non-voters

00:52:02.100 to

00:52:02.540 establish their narrative

00:52:04.140 that they're not just

00:52:04.980 stealing from reform

00:52:05.920 and it's not just a fixed pie.

00:52:07.440 Right, the army of the dead, I call them.

00:52:08.700 That's the key, the non-voters,

00:52:09.940 because then they're not just splitting the vote.

00:52:11.200 And whether or not they can eclipse reform.

00:52:13.640 Because if Restore come in second rather than reform,

00:52:16.600 dear God, like that is...

00:52:17.800 That would be huge, yeah.

00:52:18.720 Everything needs to be reassessed from there on out.

00:52:20.440 As soon as Nigel Farage quits

00:52:21.860 and goes back to just making money all the time,

00:52:23.760 the better.

00:52:25.140 The best piece that came out in the last few days, though,

00:52:28.540 was from aging twink Owen Jones,

00:52:31.060 who is absolutely bricking it

00:52:34.220 over the prospect of Restore. 0.75

00:52:35.920 So he says, it may feel comforting to dismiss Restore Britain as fringe wackos who have always

00:52:42.420 existed. Surely they're only louder because social media gives them a voice, and Musk is doing his

00:52:47.300 best to boost his pet British cause, but Andy Burnham's camp are apparently celebrating the

00:52:53.360 fact that Restore Britain exists, and he says it would be a mistake for them to celebrate this.

00:52:58.620 It would be deeply unwise for his camp to feel gratitude, because Restore Britain is not an

00:53:02.080 isolated phenomenon it's the latest chapter in a much bigger story unfolding across britain

00:53:06.760 the wider west and he laments basically the destruction of post-war consensus he says that

00:53:11.820 in the aftermath of the second world war when fascism reduced europe to rubble a cordon sanitaire

00:53:17.000 was established to the right of democratic politics as a sort of ideological ring fencing

00:53:21.060 the far right you having a country were deemed politically illegitimate and an existential

00:53:26.100 threat to democracy and he is complaining that cordon sanitaire that containment barrier is

00:53:30.320 breaking down and he sees restore britain not reform restore britain as the containment breach

00:53:36.500 it's funny that owen suddenly turns into a neoliberal when he needs to like i mean

00:53:40.040 talk about fringe wackos i mean owen's like lefter than left can possibly be but here he

00:53:45.200 just suddenly sounds like a but he realizes he realizes that all of the people that aren't in

00:53:51.560 restore will give him time so for example unheard right they're meant to be a uh liberal free speech

00:53:59.320 outlet. Won't have anyone

00:54:01.320 to their right, but they will host Hassan Piker.

00:54:03.240 And they will complain that he isn't brought in. Literally a communist

00:54:05.160 calls for the death of elected US officials.

00:54:07.700 They'll platform him, but they'll ban him.

00:54:09.140 And they'll laugh at people who think that Axe Girl was 0.87

00:54:11.160 telling the truth, which turns out to be vindicated

00:54:13.200 later. And they'll say that

00:54:15.220 Islam is the future of Britain and 1.00

00:54:17.040 reform has too many Christians in it. Yes, quite. 1.00

00:54:19.720 Same with Owen Jones. Nigel Farage

00:54:21.340 will talk to Owen Jones.

00:54:23.060 He won't come on here. And it's because

00:54:24.900 they are all within the paradigm of the

00:54:27.060 post-war consensus. They are all in the paradigm

00:54:29.060 that says 0.99

00:54:29.420 if the British people

00:54:30.820 take their own side

00:54:31.440 if we have British

00:54:32.220 identity politics 0.66

00:54:33.140 then we'll morph 0.89

00:54:33.940 ineluctably into Adolf Hitler 0.65

00:54:35.040 and sorry I just don't

00:54:35.760 agree with that premise

00:54:36.260 and that paradigm

00:54:36.960 runs from the sort of

00:54:38.040 centre to the far left

00:54:39.300 those are the things

00:54:40.220 that allow

00:54:40.440 maybe because of Stalin

00:54:41.460 maybe it's something

00:54:42.360 to do with the fact

00:54:43.160 we sided with Stalin

00:54:43.980 whereas of course

00:54:44.580 the other guy

00:54:45.020 was not as popular

00:54:46.020 we still have that

00:54:47.060 Overton window

00:54:47.680 and it's why

00:54:48.280 and I talk about this

00:54:49.520 quite a lot

00:54:49.840 and so does Harrison

00:54:50.440 it's why Tim Stanley

00:54:51.700 couldn't give a gushing

00:54:53.020 interview to Ash Sarka

00:54:54.140 but was always sniping

00:54:55.180 at Rupert Lowe

00:54:56.060 they warmed up to him

00:54:56.940 a little bit

00:54:57.320 but it's like

00:54:57.920 you could never have

00:54:58.880 Yash Sarkar equivalent on the right on the telegraph so the Overton window that's acceptable is far

00:55:04.260 left to sort of centre leftish basically like a wet sort of it's a wet Tory to out literal

00:55:10.480 communist everyone who believes in the blank slate therefore the only position that's acceptable is

00:55:14.260 like British value civic nationalism if you dare say the British people are the English Scottish

00:55:18.100 Welsh and Irish and that gives them a unique claim over their own country well then you're the far

00:55:21.440 right and unfortunately that means most of the public are the far right yeah even Kemi said

00:55:25.940 recently i say even kemi but she said ethnicity has no component in being british you know thank

00:55:31.080 you it's a bit it's a bit rich i know because you you've come in you know we don't get into this

00:55:34.980 but she's only in the country because of a loophole she's an anchor baby it was you know

00:55:38.740 eliminated the year a year after so yeah it's just it's a bit rich when we don't go to nigeria and 0.70

00:55:43.260 say oh there's there's only matter about being nigeria it's just mental isn't it yes so he

00:55:47.680 finishes this by saying that uh the alternative to restore britain is a politics capable of

00:55:53.420 directing public anger towards concentrations of

00:55:55.480 wealth and power rather than towards migrants, minorities

00:55:57.560 and other convenient scapegoats. Who's bringing 0.96

00:55:59.500 the migrants in, Owen? 1.00

00:56:01.500 Careful in the comments for me saying that one. But for now 1.00

00:56:03.700 we face an existential menace. Nothing

00:56:05.620 is too right-wing anymore. Rupert decided

00:56:07.560 to thank him for that endorsement in the

00:56:09.280 Guardian on Twitter. So again,

00:56:11.680 remember, back the party that

00:56:13.640 promotes its hit pieces as endorsements.

00:56:15.620 And I'll whisk through the last couple because the best one

00:56:17.620 actually was the one in The Economist

00:56:19.720 yesterday which said, and

00:56:21.640 I quote, fundamentally the British

00:56:23.740 right has bet that the British people are, for want of 1.00

00:56:25.740 a better word, bastards. Because Rupert 1.00

00:56:27.760 said that he wanted to deport all illegal immigrants, all 0.99

00:56:29.660 benefits scroungers, and hang Vikram Digwa 0.99

00:56:31.580 and the guy that did the stabbing, 0.87

00:56:33.520 attempted beheading in Northern

00:56:35.760 Ireland. Apparently wanting to hang 0.86

00:56:37.580 Africans that attempt to behead random disabled 1.00

00:56:39.720 men makes you a bastard. I'll take it. 1.00

00:56:42.040 It's sad to see the economists just

00:56:43.640 torch their own reputation just over the last

00:56:45.640 years. Yes, and the final one I thought I'd mention

00:56:47.660 is Melanie Phillips. Melanie Phillips wrote a hit piece on us. 0.93

00:56:49.820 so myself, Cole and Harry

00:56:53.000 decided to do a

00:56:54.840 podcast about two weeks ago now

00:56:56.980 going through the previous hit pieces on Restore Britain

00:56:58.680 and Melanie Phillips wrote one in the Times

00:57:00.500 saying that Restore is far too far right

00:57:02.140 attacking our good friend Frank

00:57:04.480 who you interviewed obviously

00:57:06.280 only the other week because of course Frank said

00:57:08.540 well Israel's activity

00:57:10.660 in the region has caused a bit of displacement

00:57:12.300 and our treacherous politicians have decided to 1.00

00:57:14.360 import all the people from Libya

00:57:16.460 and Yemen and oh yeah that was Robert Jenrick

00:57:18.160 and Rishi Sunak, wasn't it?

00:57:20.340 Yeah, curious that. She decided to

00:57:22.300 say that our segment

00:57:23.940 was proof of

00:57:26.200 unacceptable, evil 1.00

00:57:28.560 racism that isn't very British

00:57:30.160 at all. And, 0.66

00:57:31.740 not going to subscribe to that, thank you very much.

00:57:34.260 But during it, she says,

00:57:35.780 the Restore camp don't even understand what British identity

00:57:37.980 and core Western precepts actually are. 0.92

00:57:40.440 Please explain this to me while you live in Israel,

00:57:42.300 Melanie. I have repeatedly argued for the

00:57:44.180 defence of Britain's historic national identity, whose core 1.00

00:57:46.220 values currently threatened by mass uncontrolled immigration of people many of whom hold those

00:57:50.440 values in contempt include one law for all political freedom and civic equality for all

00:57:54.740 of its citizens so liberalism britain is just liberalism yeah right she says though restore

00:58:00.640 wants to turn britishness into an ethnic identity they say britain needs to return to its anglo

00:58:04.360 saxon and christian roots and it must once again be white i don't think anyone said that just we

00:58:08.900 happen to be white so it's just incidental but there you go she says no place for black or brown

00:58:14.380 skinned brits then and no place for jews what restore want therefore is not historic britain 0.67

00:58:18.140 but an ethnostate based on blood and soil racism no we just want basically the same standard that 0.83

00:58:23.980 you think jews should enjoy in israel for us here in britain which by your definition is blood and

00:58:28.200 soil racism because you think this particular stretch of land was promised to your ethnic

00:58:31.300 people thousands of years ago and then she addresses that and says it's actually a misrepresentation

00:58:37.060 she says where is it she says um israel does not correspond to restore's desired ethnostate 0.83

00:58:44.360 because many Israeli Jews are black or brown-skinned.

00:58:47.340 20% of Israel are Arabs.

00:58:49.100 Well, you're not exactly happy about that

00:58:50.100 when buses get blown up in Jerusalem, are you?

00:58:51.700 So why do we have to have that as well?

00:58:53.240 And Judaism itself is not just an ethnicity,

00:58:55.660 but also comprises a religion and a people.

00:58:57.320 There is no other people, religion or ethnicity like it.

00:58:59.600 It is unique.

00:59:01.120 Actually, I don't think so.

00:59:02.260 I don't think it's unique.

00:59:03.180 I think we're an ethnic people.

00:59:04.400 We've had thousands of years of continuity.

00:59:05.860 We've had an indigenous faith of Christianity

00:59:08.620 that shaped our family formation,

00:59:10.220 our manners, our morals, our culture.

00:59:11.480 so we are a people with a religion and ethnic groups so if you're demanding that you're going

00:59:16.760 to call us racist if we only support nationalism for your people while depriving ourselves of it

00:59:20.860 then sorry i'm just not going to abide by that standard you're an ethnic partisan and i don't

00:59:24.720 care i didn't like the claim that i understand her argument but i don't like the claim she says

00:59:29.880 here restore types come from a very dark place they're eating up with resentment that in the

00:59:33.740 state of israel the jews have their own country while the british have nowhere else to go it's

00:59:36.740 a bit of a mean-spirited thing to say and i really don't think people are i don't have opinions on 0.91

00:59:41.000 israel i think a lot of people in don't who like indifferent yeah i don't think a lot of people in

00:59:45.540 on the streets those guys lads we saw putting up their signs in the with the vans i don't think

00:59:50.500 they're thinking about israel i just think they want britain to survive and not have beheadings

00:59:54.860 in the streets in northern ireland and grooming gangs and so on i really don't think they're

00:59:58.580 eaten up by resentment when you get into the debate you might find some people saying well

01:00:03.120 hang on it's okay for israel but not us in general though i think it's well down the list of people's

01:00:07.420 concern yeah and if you want a country for your people you want to secure a future for your

01:00:11.140 children and you don't want people randomly beheaded in the street or handcuffed as they're

01:00:15.540 bleeding to death because someone said the magic word um vote restore britain because that's what

01:00:20.280 they're most afraid of i think we might have to come back to the those comments um towards the

01:00:25.680 end towards the end so you didn't get on to finkelstein because we don't have time but his

01:00:29.280 the fact that his sister as well wants to ethnically cleanse my people in the countryside

01:00:33.040 and i'm a bit like it's a bit rich talking about who's racist and stuff yeah so do we all remember

01:00:38.860 axe girl we do indeed yeah for those who who who may um be low of memory i'll just play a little

01:00:46.460 bit of this it's it's a short clip that um was was commented on widely at the time as reported by

01:00:52.980 whatever it was new york time oh new york post this disturbing video has been spreading like

01:00:56.900 wildfire on social media showing two girls yelling at a man filming them as they move around frantically

01:01:02.540 and one even pulling out two weapons that she flashes at him the girl who was later arrested

01:01:07.720 is being praised online as a hero for standing up for herself but the question remains what

01:01:12.360 actually happened here's everything we know about the incident it is hard to make out exactly what 0.89

01:01:17.180 the girls are saying in the clip because they are frantically yelling with thick scottish accents

01:01:21.400 but at the beginning of the video the younger girl seemingly accuses the man of treating her

01:01:25.560 inappropriately in some way before she anyway the rest of the video goes on to pour scorn on the

01:01:30.960 idea of look they're white they're they're native british i mean obviously obviously they're the 0.58

01:01:36.060 problem the question that immediately leapt to my mind when i saw this is what would drive a young

01:01:40.660 girl to um pull weapons out on a grown man who is following and filming her and why is this grown

01:01:47.160 man following and filming two very young girls it was a bit of a rorschach test immediately because

01:01:52.980 it what i don't know if you've seen that thing it's like a dress and some people see black yeah

01:01:58.660 and it was a bit like that with this all of our lot we immediately saw a girl in distress young

01:02:04.640 girls in distress and the and that the problem was probably coming from the 20 year old guy

01:02:10.160 but all the liberals in the establishment they saw this and it's like oh that poor 23 year old

01:02:15.820 bulgarian man he's being attacked by a 12 year old girl because they believe that all conflict

01:02:22.600 between groups is a consequence of you noticing the differences between groups and so this girl

01:02:26.580 dared to notice the difference between her and a grown man who was following around and filming her

01:02:30.180 rather than holding his hand and singing john lennon imagine and therefore she was at fault

01:02:34.120 she was the far right she was causing division yeah they have a flawed heuristic which makes 0.99

01:02:38.120 them very stupid well yes i mean the police were no doubt the police immediately came out um chief 0.99

01:02:44.360 superintendent nicola russell um we have to check on that later because i've got a theory and i've 1.00

01:02:50.280 said it on every podcast that every senior police officer looks like a lesbian regardless of whether

01:02:54.260 they're male or not um we are aware of misinformation being shared on social media

01:03:00.140 in relation to an incident where a bulgarian couple were approached by youths in saint ann

01:03:07.060 lee dundee on saturday 23rd blah blah a 12 year old girl has been charged with being in possession

01:03:14.000 of offensive weapons she will be referred to the relevant authorities and our inquiries are

01:03:19.120 ongoing we would like to thank the local community for our help with investigation

01:03:22.120 and we urge the public not to share misinformation about this incident

01:03:26.320 or speculate on the circumstances.

01:03:28.380 So the police got straight in there.

01:03:30.880 No curiosity as to what drove two young 12-year-old girls 0.77

01:03:35.920 to carry around an axe and a knife.

01:03:38.580 What made her fear for her safety?

01:03:40.680 Because Scotland has been ravaged by a series of grooming gangs,

01:03:44.560 both native Scottish and conspicuously a couple of months after this happened.

01:03:48.580 A Romanian gang was prosecuted in Dundee.

01:03:52.120 which, I mean, she may have known personally

01:03:55.980 some of her friends that had been preyed upon by said gangs

01:03:58.020 and needed to carry that.

01:03:59.420 But, no, the police arrest and blame her 0.90

01:04:01.660 instead of the Bulgarian couple.

01:04:03.340 Well, they've watched so many Netflix shows 1.00

01:04:05.520 where kick-ass boss girls, whatever they call boss babes, 1.00

01:04:09.500 beat up loads of much older men. 0.99

01:04:12.240 That's the only time I've ever seen that.

01:04:13.800 Yes.

01:04:14.860 Yeah, I mean, if there's a fight,

01:04:18.100 a 12-year-old, even with a hatchet and an axe,

01:04:20.420 is going to lose to a 33 year old man this is not there's no precedent is there in history outside

01:04:25.860 of hollywood where a 12 year old girl just picks up a weapon and goes after men in vigilante fashion

01:04:30.880 no there was that one film kick-ass i think it was yes that's the only one i can think of in real

01:04:35.780 life oh no okay in real life oh no obviously not outside of hollywood there's no yeah not not in

01:04:40.360 real life but i mean the the authorities have gone and got this situation where if a violent incident

01:04:45.340 occurs um you know what's the cost to the institution almost nothing but what if people

01:04:51.920 lose trust in the institutions well that is existential and so what they're doing is they're

01:04:57.100 going out and they're and they're trying to always defend their legitimacy their narrative their

01:05:01.860 their message um but they're doing something that we used to call in finance picking up pennies in

01:05:07.040 front of a steamroller which we would describe for somebody who's trying to make a little bit

01:05:11.320 of money but if they get anything wrong they're going to get wiped out and and this story is a

01:05:16.280 perfect example of that so uh moving on um um oh we got a picture now of the here we go yeah oh 0.98

01:05:22.680 yeah she does look like a lesbian she looks like the the protagonist in every single video game 1.00

01:05:27.360 since sweet baby inc and anita sarkeesian got involved yes yes so uh no wonder that she's the 1.00

01:05:32.560 chief of police i'm sure she was promoted entirely on merit and nothing to do because she passed her

01:05:36.980 DEI exams particularly well um at the time John McSweeney or John Sweeney the first minister of

01:05:43.100 Scotland he said um he he publicly accused Elon Musk of spreading misinformation and deliberate

01:05:49.380 disinformation about the incident he said it was totally and utterly unacceptable not what happened

01:05:56.240 to those girls he said that people talking about it online was totally and utterly unacceptable

01:06:01.280 and undermined social cohesion in Scottish communities

01:06:05.200 and he backed the police's and Scotland's warnings.

01:06:09.920 Hamza Youssef, he was the former First Minister at the time,

01:06:13.920 and he said this,

01:06:14.820 a Bulgarian couple were approached by youths,

01:06:17.300 so they were approached in St Anne's, Dundee,

01:06:21.020 but they're going after Emmanuel Goldstein, which is Tommy,

01:06:26.780 but of course they're giving it the whole Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.

01:06:29.960 He's hyphenated Stephen Yaxley

01:06:32.080 Isn't it Yaxley Lennon that's hyphenated

01:06:33.760 His first name not hyphenated

01:06:35.380 Literacy rates aren't that great in Pakistan

01:06:37.260 But Stephen hyphen Yaxley

01:06:40.260 Lennon and his racist

01:06:42.620 Far right mob told me that 0.99

01:06:44.180 Migrants tried to sexually assault the girls 0.99

01:06:46.620 On question mark 1.00

01:06:47.820 Who would have thought

01:06:50.980 A convicted fraudster 0.63

01:06:52.380 A liar was talking utter mints 0.98

01:06:54.820 Well they were white 0.99

01:06:55.660 So this might be a problem

01:06:57.000 comments uh yeah uh yes and i mean you can look through the quotes on on on this particular tweet

01:07:03.500 from the police um this will make for interesting reading for the types of choking for kids to be

01:07:08.980 abused they can hide their racism behind it bulgarian couple from the eu what kind of 0.99

01:07:15.100 bulgarian yeah exactly love that eu's part of it oh this one's good the flag shaggers won't like 0.99

01:07:20.500 this and i mean the truth so yeah all that bullshit don't you lot literally fly a rainbow 0.99

01:07:25.440 flag about shagging yes yes with yeah with the pedo stuff oh my least favorite person yes freddy 0.97

01:07:31.880 sayers um i mean he needed this nice because i wrote what now now that it's been proved last

01:07:36.740 night i know it's today it was deleted i'm not saying i did it i probably wasn't the only one

01:07:40.360 to reply well i mean he got in there straight away with the first tweet which is is there any

01:07:44.400 actual evidence that 14 year old girls brandishing the axe and the knife was bravely defending her

01:07:49.020 12 year old sister from migrant aggression or is this just another propaganda slop story

01:07:53.420 and then he followed it up a little while later

01:07:56.120 a couple of days later

01:07:57.400 and just as I suspected the whole story

01:07:59.780 of this girl being attacked by a migrant

01:08:01.800 is confected propaganda

01:08:03.880 slop. Good day

01:08:05.740 to all the thousands of morons who 1.00

01:08:07.620 amplified it and piled on me for 1.00

01:08:09.600 questioning it. Important context as well, under the

01:08:11.760 show more section he is linking to a Daily Mail

01:08:13.640 article and the Daily Mail article is an

01:08:15.740 interview with the Bulgarian couple

01:08:17.440 who at that point have not been charged. The Daily

01:08:19.700 Mail article, Daily Mail

01:08:21.500 in question. They have

01:08:23.460 repeatedly interviewed Axel

01:08:25.540 Rudy Cabana's family, Vikram Digwa's family

01:08:27.500 in a sympathetic light. The Daily Mail are really

01:08:29.620 subversive when it comes to the issue of migrant crime

01:08:31.480 and I don't know what they're doing but 0.99

01:08:33.580 for some reason he thought this was a good look.

01:08:35.760 In the mind of have I got news for you

01:08:37.520 the Daily Mail still exists in this

01:08:39.680 kind of far right thing but

01:08:41.520 of course they're not. They're all over the map.

01:08:43.500 One reason is journalists are left wing.

01:08:45.760 A BBC journalist told me at one point

01:08:47.460 he goes well yeah I used to write for the Mail

01:08:48.840 most journalists are left wing so the most journalists at the mail are left wing so yeah

01:08:53.340 the mail are not this thing that the left pretends they are well freddie sayers because works for

01:08:57.540 unheard which is a disgusting he owns he is he is the editor unheard and the spectator what they

01:09:02.520 put he's the one that banned my debate and banned me from the premises of the actual right okay well 0.53

01:09:06.560 i haven't finished piling on unheard so here we've got an article from kathleen stock i'll just i'll

01:09:11.560 just read you some of the choice bits from it and and this is quite good as well so it's a shame 0.67

01:09:16.680 isn't it she can be well this is the turfs will not touch immigration and that's the issue that 0.93

01:09:21.160 yeah well and she's just got this dripping middle-class contempt for the lower orders 1.00

01:09:27.360 and it comes across in a number of bits a donor page has been set up for two girls real name

01:09:32.880 lola and ruby as i write the fund stands at nearly 35 grand which is a lot of money for

01:09:37.920 young lola and ruby to spend on machetes and iron brew she goes on to say mostly though there

01:09:44.340 was a distinct lack of surprise about why a young girl might be walking about the city's back streets

01:09:50.000 tooled up like a video game character yeah there is a reason for that there is a reason for that

01:09:55.220 um so whatever the ultimate truth about what went on in this video or the fraying social contract in

01:10:01.720 dundee it is clearly a lot less childishly simple than feverish projections of people like musk 0.76

01:10:08.500 um we'll see about that we will see um there is that there is that element of class hatred

01:10:14.600 sim stanley always slips into that as well always talking about thugs that just want to get out on

01:10:18.980 the street and riot and you think really and if you're from a normal back if you're like like me

01:10:23.920 from a state school in the north you just don't think like this because you just think that they're

01:10:26.560 my mates from school but there's a certain class i always think there's always a thug around every

01:10:30.440 corner with drinking iron the low orders have to be trusted for some reason immigration i note that 0.84

01:10:35.260 she does look like a senior police officer. 1.00

01:10:36.920 She is a lesbian. 1.00

01:10:38.520 Oh, okay. 1.00

01:10:38.960 Well, there you go, then.

01:10:39.600 Yeah.

01:10:39.880 There you go. 1.00

01:10:40.220 That's why she looks like a senior police officer.

01:10:41.580 This is just a sort of snobbish, 0.95

01:10:43.120 mean-girlish attitude

01:10:44.060 around most of these outlets.

01:10:46.040 I mean, Fraser Nelson has the same thing,

01:10:47.120 but Fraser Nelson knows he's lying all the time,

01:10:49.020 of where immigration is just

01:10:49.980 a sort of gauche, lowbrow issue. 0.96

01:10:52.180 It's something we don't have to deal with.

01:10:53.720 Yeah, and we just need to sneer down it.

01:10:55.580 In the same way of Have I Got News For You,

01:10:56.900 the sort of sardonic eyebrow,

01:10:58.020 you really believe that?

01:11:00.100 It's just the same attitude.

01:11:01.560 It's a totally outmoded paradigm.

01:11:03.260 And the other one was David Ivanovich the other day,

01:11:05.180 saying what most people don't talk about

01:11:06.960 is that a lot of people are rioting.

01:11:08.040 They're just doing it for fun.

01:11:08.980 I'm like, oh, yes,

01:11:09.760 the famous history of fun riots in Belfast.

01:11:12.380 You know what I mean?

01:11:12.640 It's like, really?

01:11:15.360 Take the kids.

01:11:16.140 It'd be a lovely day out.

01:11:17.660 Yeah, Spiked.

01:11:18.440 I mean, they jumped on this as well.

01:11:19.560 Enemy outlet.

01:11:20.500 Another enemy outlet, yes.

01:11:23.040 So some choice extracts from this article.

01:11:26.580 For the terminally online riot,

01:11:28.380 this 44 seconds of footage from Dundee, Scotland,

01:11:31.480 was enough to confirm their most nightmarish fears

01:11:35.160 Britain, it seems, is now overrun by illegal migrant child molesters. 0.98

01:11:41.040 Pre-teen girls are forced to carry weapons to defend themselves 0.99

01:11:44.580 from the constant onslaught of foreign rapists. 0.81

01:11:48.220 I mean, imagine people believing that. 0.91

01:11:51.120 Worse, when the reports emerge,

01:11:54.000 a girl has been arrested on suspicion of possessing weapons.

01:11:57.420 This too was seized on as proof of the UK's slide into a narco-tyranny.

01:12:02.060 because obviously you can trust the police there there's the police are clearly on our side so how

01:12:09.600 ridiculous could it be that we would think that and then this line is perfect it seems to fit a

01:12:15.820 little too neatly into the rape of britain narrative so i hope dear audience you're queuing 0.88

01:12:21.740 all these up in your mind um all this all this um you know scathing comments yeah it's a shame

01:12:27.180 because i like i like phrases i'm trying to be nice because i know phrase i'm trying to be nice

01:12:30.360 but spiked have gone a bit wrong they were back the vaccine vehemently they've done this they

01:12:36.240 attacked me i think connor as well and steve edgerton saying oh the idea that the police force

01:12:40.500 are racist and white people why do you like these crittens i still know phrases i'm a nice guy you

01:12:46.440 know but they've actually attacked me and then then a follow-up article appeared where they 0.96

01:12:50.380 realized oh the police are anti-white it was from what's her name anaya anaya she wrote a piece

01:12:54.500 she's still writing pieces that honor and nick and steve think that the police are anti-white

01:12:57.820 the police are actually

01:12:59.220 I'm sorry

01:12:59.900 I didn't get an apology

01:13:00.840 but there was no apology

01:13:01.700 and then she wrote

01:13:02.280 another piece

01:13:02.920 criticising us

01:13:03.700 on her subset

01:13:04.180 which nobody reads

01:13:04.760 the thing that

01:13:05.740 I actually think of

01:13:06.600 as low character

01:13:07.380 it's a small story

01:13:08.240 Tom Slater

01:13:10.040 ended up speaking

01:13:10.980 to my wife

01:13:11.780 at a Christmas party

01:13:12.620 that we happened to be at 1.00

01:13:13.560 didn't know it was my wife

01:13:14.680 and he was really nice

01:13:15.300 spoke to her

01:13:15.840 and she said

01:13:17.540 oh I'm just going to 0.72

01:13:17.980 grab my husband

01:13:18.460 because I've been 1.00

01:13:18.760 talking to you

01:13:19.000 like 20 minutes

01:13:19.600 he's over there

01:13:20.020 and he's like

01:13:20.260 oh who's your husband

01:13:20.840 and she's just

01:13:21.500 pointing me out

01:13:21.900 and she went

01:13:22.140 turned away

01:13:23.520 petty

01:13:24.640 like these people

01:13:26.020 for some reason 0.99

01:13:26.920 they're just arseholes yes um so moving on to other collections of arseholes we've got the

01:13:34.440 guardian now what i'm kind of leading up to before i give you the grand reveal um the latest news on 0.60

01:13:41.400 this story um which will blow your mind uh given everything you've heard from your betters about

01:13:47.160 what to think about this incident um yeah the guardian are going after their favorite emmanuel

01:13:51.600 goldsteins elon musk and tommy robinson's now i raise this because you might remember that the

01:13:58.200 guardian and all the leftists are doing this right now right now they are going after elon musk and

01:14:03.900 tommy a week ago they were going after elon musk and they are always always always going after elon

01:14:10.140 musk and tommy see dan the problem is people see like an attempted beheading in the street and they

01:14:15.880 just think oh cool fine what's for dinner but then they get online and elon musk tells them

01:14:20.860 to riot violently yes i mean i mean well that that's why we have the troubles in northern

01:14:26.500 ireland for 50 years right it's because people went on twitter he was writing letters at that

01:14:30.840 point yes it was mainly letters musk would write a letter to northern ireland and say could you get

01:14:35.060 out on the streets and start because because people people have no agency they can't think

01:14:38.420 for themselves if they see somebody being beheaded on the street they don't think anything at all 1.00

01:14:42.880 they're just empty vessels all of these Sikh pogroms that we keep hearing about from the likes 1.00

01:14:46.400 of Sky News and the aftermath of Henry Novak's death were clearly inspired by Tommy Robinson's 1.00

01:14:49.920 seven minute video saying the Sikhs are the best people in the country it's got to be that so yeah

01:14:54.520 I mean just note when you hear tomorrow and next week and next month the leftists say that it's all

01:15:02.300 down to Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk just bear in mind and I've got the twist coming up soon 0.80

01:15:06.940 uh daily mail they joined in with all of this as well uh revealed the truth about the migrant in 0.94

01:15:13.180 scare quotes who had dundee girl dundee schoolgirl brandished a knife at and how wrong the rabble

01:15:20.160 rousers elon musk and tommy robinson were and then we uh here we go with an ugly video clip

01:15:25.940 from dundee housing state in which a schoolgirl brandished a knife and axed soon went viral

01:15:30.920 with rubble rousers like Elon and Tommy

01:15:33.800 pitching the claim that the guy was a migrant

01:15:37.300 and going on about...

01:15:39.140 But he's actually a family man, it says.

01:15:40.860 He's been here for four years.

01:15:43.280 The Bulgarian.

01:15:44.360 He wasn't a migrant.

01:15:45.480 He's been here for four years

01:15:46.920 and he's a family man.

01:15:48.780 Weird how when they spoke to him,

01:15:50.620 they didn't see the AK-47 tattooed on his neck.

01:15:54.280 Yes.

01:15:54.980 I don't know about that.

01:15:55.840 Yes, he's got an Instagram

01:15:56.720 where he's got loads...

01:15:57.800 where he describes himself as a gangster. 0.96

01:15:59.940 Gypsy gangster. 0.72

01:16:00.380 a gypsy gangster

01:16:01.420 which is very important 1.00

01:16:02.660 because he's not Bulgarian

01:16:04.120 yet again 1.00

01:16:05.120 he's a gypsy 1.00

01:16:05.880 and they're ethnically

01:16:06.840 from the same region

01:16:07.580 of the subcontinent 0.99

01:16:08.120 where we get all our rapists from

01:16:09.480 quick tour of other 1.00

01:16:11.180 traitors

01:16:12.380 you know this one 1.00

01:16:15.200 where she's having a go at it 0.98

01:16:16.860 Scotland's first minister

01:16:18.300 was right

01:16:18.560 this misinformation

01:16:19.380 is designed to divide

01:16:21.240 communities

01:16:21.960 misinformation

01:16:22.560 disinformation

01:16:23.660 the 14 year old girl

01:16:25.700 from Dundee

01:16:26.320 was filmed branching

01:16:27.300 an axe and a bowie knife

01:16:28.640 praised as a heroine 0.75

01:16:30.240 by far-right cranks across the land um she was attacked she was attacking the sister of a guy

01:16:36.960 who filmed her on his phone for the purposes of evidence uh racism is so so it was the it was the

01:16:42.920 it was the two school girls who attacked the the 23 year old i mean oh dear but well because he's

01:16:47.640 an immigrant so obviously he's the victim 24 years this one soul man amid another example of fake

01:16:54.920 news being spread online once again involving tommy robinson whose assertions are proven to

01:17:00.120 be false so i mean the left the establishment they were they were all over it they looked at 0.96

01:17:07.260 these two a quite obviously scared 12 year old girl and this wannabe gypsy gangster from bulgaria

01:17:17.360 who got here four years ago and they picked him they picked the guy on the right the tie should 0.95

01:17:23.800 have been a giveaway really the way the the bit underneath is longer yeah he's clearly not used

01:17:28.220 to tying a tie the fact that he also clearly doesn't need a belt with the size of that gut

01:17:32.220 and the neck the neck tattoo as well as and and wearing a wearing a woolly north face jacket on

01:17:37.720 top of the outfit you're probably wearing to court yes if it's physiognomy never lies but just just

01:17:43.760 pause everything the entire left the entire establishment the journalist class they picked

01:17:50.440 the guy on the right a lot of us didn't at the time i mean i i posted about this quite a lot of

01:17:56.520 the time we made videos i did a segment on it and i just pointed out look if you're defending if

01:18:00.660 you're defending mps at parliament you expect it to be well armed if you're a 12 year old girl

01:18:04.600 defending a little sister from rapey migrants it's forbidden you know they're not you're not even 0.93

01:18:09.080 allowed pepper pepper spray you know at the time he was a family man who'd been here four whole 0.53

01:18:13.520 years four whole he wasn't a migrant he'd been here for four years you need to correct that

01:18:17.560 apologize really yeah exactly isn't it restore policy that women would be allowed to carry 1.00

01:18:22.240 pepper spray well there you go so it's a restore policy that we're going to deport the bulgarian 0.98

01:18:26.260 well yes yes but it's actually reform policy that if he were to happen to live in wales for 1.00

01:18:31.400 an extra year he would be a welshman yes right now hate his taxes now we've got the wild twist

01:18:37.220 i hope you i hope you've held on waited this long so i fight club the twist is oh actually

01:18:43.460 everything that we were saying was right brother and sister guilty of attacking girls in w so how

01:18:50.480 you're telling me the gypsies were criminals i'm hearing this now for the first time so the two of

01:18:56.000 these so he was basically going out hassling 12 year old girls for sex and his sister was was was 0.98

01:19:01.680 in on it as well right okay that's convenient there's a gypsy rape gang operating in dundee

01:19:06.020 at the same time yeah and and this is this is the restore point because you know somebody like 0.66

01:19:12.020 farage might might go okay well maybe maybe maybe we're considered deporting foreign criminals so

01:19:19.420 that apparently they've said that now they can do foreign criminals but rupert lowe is just like no

01:19:23.900 the whole family goes with them and this proves the point his sister was going along with his

01:19:29.000 attempts to try and get sex from 12 year old girls this is why you have to deport the entire families 1.00

01:19:34.540 because their women folk don't give a shit that you're raping our little girls and they'll raise 1.00

01:19:39.360 their children the exact same way yes it's not a problem in this culture they all need to go so 1.00

01:19:45.560 yeah that piece of shit and his sister were going around hassling children for sex and they were 1.00

01:19:50.360 defending themselves so ev literally everything that we said was right on our side everything 1.00

01:19:57.660 the left said was wrong everything the police said was wrong the police lied because they wanted to

01:20:03.280 defend a narrative they immediately wanted to jump in there with don't be mean to migrants

01:20:07.720 there's a native British person

01:20:10.320 in the world 1.00

01:20:10.780 obviously they're the problem 0.98

01:20:12.480 and everything you're based

01:20:14.060 through free thinking outlets

01:20:16.700 said as well

01:20:17.380 meaning unheard

01:20:18.500 Julie Bindle said 1.00

01:20:19.520 that only racist fuckwits 1.00

01:20:20.780 think that the girl 1.00

01:20:21.940 is some sort of hero

01:20:22.600 I didn't know we could

01:20:23.580 swear on this now

01:20:24.060 there's so much swear on it

01:20:25.140 I've been holding back

01:20:26.300 well I don't think

01:20:27.080 we're meant to

01:20:27.600 it is an emotive issue

01:20:29.680 I mean

01:20:30.000 yeah but unheard

01:20:31.120 particularly

01:20:31.460 those kind of things

01:20:32.100 are particularly

01:20:32.420 unheard are noxious

01:20:33.660 I mean what's the point

01:20:34.580 of unheard

01:20:35.080 literally Mary Harrington

01:20:36.380 and that's it

01:20:36.940 she's good yeah she's still unheard oh and aris rusinos oh yeah and aris is great yeah yeah that's

01:20:41.780 it they've got to find better gigs um so i mean i'll just take you through the story in in in a

01:20:50.600 couple of quick points um nicola russ we're we're aware of the misinformation then it's elon musk 0.75

01:20:57.080 spreading misinformation then it's like oh shit the bulgarian man is guilty uh after making six 0.92

01:21:03.500 sexual comments at her um and then and then the police are now saying okay information given 0.99

01:21:08.980 about the incident did not fully reflect the situation oh you think as in we lied at the time

01:21:14.080 because our reflex was to always be anti-white to always be pro-immigrant to always shut down

01:21:20.620 debate where do we go from here brings us up to the modern day because this narrative keeps ticking

01:21:27.080 it's the same every single story they want to shut down misinformation they want to shut down

01:21:31.400 disinformation they want to go after their manual guides gold signs of elon and tommy uh and it

01:21:37.600 always leads back to this where they are now after the current batch which is liz kendall

01:21:42.560 the minister for whatever the hell she's a minister of those who use social media to incite violence

01:21:48.340 and disorder are breaking the law next week parliament will update the online safety act

01:21:54.440 requiring services to take quicker action to remove illegal content during the times of crisis

01:21:59.140 so yeah she's basically just something yeah and another post from here i've explicitly asked

01:22:04.040 ofcom to discuss urgently with x and other platforms how they will comply with the online

01:22:08.840 safety act we're about to get censored it's all about censorship the exact same censorship that

01:22:14.180 they used in this story they want to gold plate that and do even more of it and as we've seen in

01:22:20.520 this case you were entirely wrong and we were entirely correct and at the time you wanted us

01:22:26.920 to be censored and for every other story you wanted us to be censored and now this one has

01:22:31.460 played out from a few months ago yet it turns out that the misinformation was coming from you

01:22:36.760 not us that the police were biased they want to preserve the state of ignorance because already

01:22:43.180 the average person massively underestimates all this it's been shown in focus groups from people

01:22:47.420 like dominic cummings that the average person massively underestimates for example the level

01:22:50.620 of immigration and but now people are more and more aware because of x but they desperately need

01:22:55.160 shut that down

01:22:55.960 because the more stories

01:22:57.060 like this people know about

01:22:58.000 the more radicalised they get

01:22:59.060 The thing is

01:22:59.300 what they're trying to do

01:23:00.120 is they're trying to make

01:23:00.860 this whole thing

01:23:02.480 the whole dissent

01:23:03.620 that we're on

01:23:04.040 the whole slide we're on

01:23:04.840 they're trying to make it

01:23:05.500 a misinformation problem

01:23:06.560 it's a state legitimacy problem

01:23:08.960 Yeah

01:23:09.240 and the problem is

01:23:10.320 because they are not

01:23:11.580 addressing the real problems

01:23:12.480 it will keep happening

01:23:13.880 and it will only get worse

01:23:15.260 and it will erode

01:23:16.520 their legitimacy

01:23:17.220 even faster

01:23:18.160 and increase street violence

01:23:19.260 I mean

01:23:19.560 Starmer's actions

01:23:20.440 and the entire establishment

01:23:21.640 actions

01:23:22.140 that's the real tragic thing

01:23:23.280 they can only increase violence

01:23:24.700 because it's not what they're saying

01:23:26.580 it's not Elon Musk

01:23:27.460 it is the fact that there are migrants 1.00

01:23:28.940 trying to behead people in your street 1.00

01:23:30.560 because it is that 0.98

01:23:31.820 and they refuse to acknowledge that reality

01:23:33.460 it's not just like a partisan point

01:23:35.180 we're making here

01:23:35.880 it's like

01:23:36.120 I want to actually stop the street violence

01:23:38.060 what they're doing

01:23:39.040 guarantees more street violence

01:23:40.620 and more unrest

01:23:41.400 yep

01:23:41.800 and they'll probably come for low procedures 0.69

01:23:43.340 next to shut us down

01:23:44.220 because

01:23:44.700 yeah

01:23:45.320 right

01:23:46.920 with that

01:23:47.660 we've got a bunch of rumble rants

01:23:48.940 and Harry

01:23:49.600 do we have any video comments?

01:23:53.280 no video comments today

01:23:54.600 You've decided to starve us.

01:23:56.500 Dan, do you want to do the rumble rants, or should I?

01:24:00.240 There's one honorable mention.

01:24:01.580 Scroll down to the bottom.

01:24:05.720 People are min-maxing.

01:24:07.240 We're mainly minning.

01:24:09.820 Okay.

01:24:10.580 How quickly would the intelligence services start panicking

01:24:12.380 if everyone just bought the cheapest balaclava on Amazon?

01:24:15.880 Don't do that.

01:24:16.840 Don't give the state an excuse to lock you up,

01:24:18.380 but thank you for that. 1.00

01:24:19.120 You've got to get a high cotton count.

01:24:20.640 Yes. 1.00

01:24:22.220 It really gets on my tits how reform supporters 0.99

01:24:24.480 was constantly bang on about it all being Rupert's hate for Nigel. Yeah, well, it's 0.98

01:24:28.660 not just a vengeful project, but you would be pretty annoyed if they tried to throw you

01:24:31.740 in prison too. Just trying to give an authentic option for people to vote for. And also, funny

01:24:36.680 how Reform's polling never went up when they got the Tories in. Yeah, that's the reason

01:24:40.300 they didn't make Zahabi their spokesperson. They realised it would have cratered their

01:24:43.180 own membership support.

01:24:44.700 Rhys, I'm from Dundee. The MSM cover-up and smear campaign of the Young Girls is a disgrace

01:24:49.060 to our country. Called them chavs and thugs for defending themselves against dangerous

01:24:52.500 migrant nonsense sickening well quite uh another one if they can remove the citizenship of an 1.00

01:24:58.280 english man living in russia for his opinion they can remove these people no problem and we just 0.93

01:25:01.340 we have the precedent with shemima vegan uh the running me trust did a giant helpful um breakdown

01:25:06.660 of actually all the laws we can use to denaturalize people so i think we should just get very

01:25:10.400 comfortable doing it um one from logan connor it'd be great if you didn't mock us in america

01:25:15.120 for having trump we have windows 7 while you're getting windows 8 don't mock people for having

01:25:19.180 trump i think think trump should just stick to his domestic agenda rather than pratting around

01:25:23.860 in the middle east and you know actually fix the country instead i think most trump supporters want

01:25:27.400 that to be honest so do people in the administration that i'm friends with so there you go um someone

01:25:32.400 says habib is a snake don't let him anywhere near power he's been trying to contain restore ever

01:25:35.380 since the party was created um ben habib can be a member if he likes just as anyone could be a

01:25:39.060 member but i don't think ben habib's going to be given any executive power and restore anytime soon

01:25:42.400 uh binary surfer friend of the show nick and dan and i's generation were raised as liberals

01:25:47.800 Connors too, somewhat.

01:25:49.480 That belief is dying rapidly, however.

01:25:51.020 Whomever comes along in one to three generations

01:25:52.840 will regard the blank slate as an abomination.

01:25:54.900 My generation, they attempted to raise us as liberals,

01:25:56.760 but just the demographic circumstances 0.95

01:25:58.520 meant that you just couldn't abide by it.

01:26:03.400 We'll go for...

01:26:04.840 Surfer also says,

01:26:05.540 Next time Melanie or Owen whines,

01:26:07.440 just tell them not to look back in anger.

01:26:08.840 I don't think that's going to work, unfortunately.

01:26:11.020 One tall order.

01:26:11.860 Do we have anyone on the ground near Downing Street?

01:26:13.840 Has anyone heard a single gunshot ring out

01:26:15.400 from the Starmer bunker?

01:26:17.120 I don't think he's got long left.

01:26:19.080 BaseApe for $5 says,

01:26:20.780 for those who need translations, 1.00

01:26:21.920 the girls are screaming, 1.00

01:26:22.860 you're a kiddie basher, mate. 0.99

01:26:24.360 We should have got Dankiller on the line

01:26:25.940 to actually translate from the original Scott,

01:26:28.180 which translates to, 0.64

01:26:29.620 you were a child beater, my friend. 0.75

01:26:30.840 It just occurred to me 0.82

01:26:31.540 others might not have realised that.

01:26:33.500 Yeah, thank you for that.

01:26:34.940 Yes. 1.00

01:26:36.000 Rick, they weren't Bulgarian, 1.00

01:26:37.320 they were Roma gypsies, 1.00

01:26:38.120 as we mentioned.

01:26:39.000 With Bulgarian passports,

01:26:40.040 there's a huge difference

01:26:40.660 between those two things.

01:26:41.340 Yeah, I've met plenty of nice Romanians as well,

01:26:42.880 and they get a bad rap 1.00

01:26:43.680 because all the Romanian pickpockets 0.96

01:26:46.000 are all gypsies as well so um lots today it's very generous uh one tall order without just spewing 0.83

01:26:51.680 the standard calusan american line about guns when lowe gets in he's really got to expand your

01:26:54.680 guys right to self-defense uh there's already a paper on that yes um though i wouldn't advise

01:26:58.900 rolling out a second amendment in britain until we get rid of all the urban news they're going to

01:27:02.320 shoot each other at a wing stop uh that's a random name thank you connor gypsies are not bulgarian 0.97

01:27:06.540 though it's still funny to call bulgarians gypsies just to see them have a meltdown 0.99

01:27:09.100 and uh reese the last one dude dundee is a leftist shithole the highest drug death rate in europe 0.99

01:27:14.320 highest alcohol deaths 0.96

01:27:15.280 highest crime rate in Scotland

01:27:16.380 highest teen pregnancy rate

01:27:17.500 in the UK

01:27:17.820 this is what you get

01:27:18.360 for voting SNP

01:27:19.260 yes

01:27:20.320 Nick do you want to do

01:27:21.480 some comments from your segment

01:27:22.220 yes this one has the name

01:27:23.680 crossed out so it must be bad

01:27:25.060 it's obviously one of those

01:27:25.880 Groeper names

01:27:26.760 I recently saw a video

01:27:28.080 by a British submariner

01:27:29.140 where he said

01:27:29.680 because of a lack of submarines

01:27:30.780 he and his crewmates

01:27:31.820 had to spend eight months

01:27:32.780 on the water

01:27:33.320 when he arrived back into port

01:27:34.540 he found that

01:27:35.060 the guys repairing

01:27:35.920 the other submarine

01:27:36.620 had been working

01:27:37.060 70 hour weeks

01:27:37.960 to get it fixed

01:27:38.820 on the plus side 0.98

01:27:39.480 lots more couples came up

01:27:40.700 Michael says

01:27:42.780 why the entire 0.96

01:27:43.460 military command didn't resign when Starmer and his fellow communards went after veterans and

01:27:48.260 the troubles of the troubles is beyond me well that's true then Carnes was criticized for that 0.73

01:27:51.660 though he's somewhat rectified it there Jimbo I know that this has been going on longer than

01:27:56.180 Starmer but it really appears that we're being run by our enemies a land invaded a people

01:28:00.100 demoralized giving away our territories military decimated and the worst part is that noticing

01:28:03.960 means you've been brainwashed by foreign interference indeed economic zone 17 can

01:28:08.760 anything finish off Starmer it's like he's some sort of political vampire who reassembles out of

01:28:13.180 ashes of every failure yeah kind of t1000 maria says alkans is not as well respected by veterans

01:28:19.740 just another weasel yeah well he he threw the vectors under the bus people felt because he

01:28:23.180 didn't stand up on that northern island bill but now in resigning it's i think he's sort of somewhat

01:28:28.460 made amends to a degree honorable mentions by the way lording quiz the hectarex happy to see nick

01:28:33.500 back uh glad the local milfs let him out of the dungeon i thought i had to read that as an honorable

01:28:40.060 Yes, we had to fight them getting into the studio.

01:28:44.580 Get them away.

01:28:45.440 James Hayes.

01:28:46.120 I just spent the last few hours torturing myself

01:28:47.580 listening to Alex Phillips on talk radio.

01:28:49.580 Do you not have any eyelashes to pluck out or something? 1.00

01:28:51.600 It's utterly incredible how emotionally attached she is to reform.

01:28:54.420 I simply cannot see the difference between the two.

01:28:55.900 No, she can. 1.00

01:28:58.200 She just wants reform to win 0.99

01:28:59.820 because she is emotionally invested in reform.

01:29:02.120 She says she loves Nigel, so there you go.

01:29:03.960 If her store do well in Makerfield,

01:29:05.260 she might spontaneously combust. 0.99

01:29:06.880 Aim high, vote low. 1.00

01:29:08.360 Russian Garbage Human. 1.00

01:29:09.180 friend of the show 1.00

01:29:10.200 I hope to see as many

01:29:11.220 of you tomorrow as

01:29:11.800 can make it to

01:29:12.200 Makerfield

01:29:12.540 we're making history

01:29:13.240 make sure to be a part

01:29:14.000 of it

01:29:14.160 we're expecting

01:29:14.540 hundreds to show up

01:29:15.440 so yeah

01:29:15.760 give us some good

01:29:16.760 reports from on the

01:29:17.440 ground

01:29:17.600 follow him on X

01:29:18.560 for some updates

01:29:19.460 he's an excellent

01:29:20.120 journalist

01:29:20.420 Dan do you want to

01:29:21.180 do any from your

01:29:21.660 segment

01:29:21.940 I'll do

01:29:23.320 Michael Drybarobis

01:29:24.400 this is the only

01:29:25.260 true bit of that

01:29:25.980 video is when they

01:29:26.800 say it's hard to

01:29:27.420 understand what

01:29:28.000 she's saying

01:29:28.420 because she's

01:29:28.940 Scottish

01:29:29.320 fair enough

01:29:31.300 excellent

01:29:32.040 well thank you

01:29:32.840 for joining us

01:29:34.480 in the studio

01:29:35.120 lovely guesty people

01:29:36.460 and thank you for

01:29:37.780 coming along

01:29:38.360 and that's our in half an hour yes go to that go away but don't don't leave your desk or your

01:29:43.980 whatever just stay where you are maybe get a drink read a couple articles and come back

01:29:49.400 yes go to the loo get a sandwich whatever uh and and but but watch lads hour okay see you in a

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 12, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1439

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