The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1444

00:00:00.000 Hello there and welcome to the podcast Lotus Eaters episode 1,444. I'm your host Harry, joined today by special guests Nick Dixon and Leo Kurse.

00:00:12.780 Hello.

00:00:13.600 Hello everybody. And today we're going to be talking about Labour's quite crushing victory in Makerfield. Nick's going to be telling us about ITV putting women back in the kitchen.

00:00:24.800 Back in the kitchen. 0.66

00:00:25.640 Then telling you off and noticing. 1.00

00:00:27.480 Yeah, but feministically. 1.00

00:00:28.760 feminist kitchen loitering yeah yep and uh you're going to be talking to us about um the kickball 0.59

00:00:35.380 games with um brown people in them yeah that's right the ethnicity of teams in the world cup

00:00:40.540 in which country has the the team the most uh closely calves to its native ethnicity and what

00:00:46.460 it's what this means for international football and racism in general yeah frankly i'm not a

00:00:52.020 sports ball guy but i don't if you are going to be a guy and haven't have like a national or even

00:00:56.580 local team what's the point of the team if it's not going to be national or local in in the team

00:01:02.140 membership it makes no sense to me and after this podcast is done we're going to have lads hour

00:01:06.940 where we're going to go through a comedian tier list because we have two

00:01:10.380 i'm retired he's still going okay you're still i was trying to figure out if it was just you

00:01:16.600 retired because you decided it was more profitable to be just angry i know someone today told me oh

00:01:21.820 your lotus career is failing that's why you're black but it's like no i can make money off this

00:01:25.420 it's that's not the problem but yeah comedy it's going to be weird to go through a comedian 1.00

00:01:30.240 tier list when i we know everyone in comedy and we've done it yeah but i'm not going to hold back

00:01:34.260 because of that yeah we're both we're both slightly excommunicated from the circuit anyway

00:01:38.740 so i mean i think we can i think we can make enemies i'm gonna put myself number one you

00:01:42.740 number two all i know is that i'm going to be subject to some awful clips of terrible comedians

00:01:48.500 like amy schumer so if you want to see that and then my kind of clockwork orange experience there

00:01:53.900 tune in later for Lads Hour. With that, let's get on with the news. So it's all everybody's

00:02:00.820 been talking about for a long while. We've been hammering this drum, but we finally have the

00:02:05.060 results from the Makerfield by-election, and it is quite a resounding, crushing win for the Labour

00:02:13.800 Party, specifically Andy Burnham, by slightly over 20 percentage points. Over 9,000 votes

00:02:24.280 Labour have won by, which just immediately puts to rest any of the accusations of vote splitting,

00:02:30.760 because frankly it could have been a two-way game between Labour and reform. Reform, with this kind

00:02:36.040 of vote share, would still not have won, which is actually quite surprising to me, because while I

00:02:40.940 was expecting Labour to come out top so I was expecting it to be Labour reform restore at least

00:02:47.000 between Labour and reform I was expecting a much closer call frankly I know Burnham is very very

00:02:54.180 popular in the north but I was still expecting reform to maybe lose by only two or three points

00:03:00.440 and you could then say yeah restore did do a vote split but no that just that just doesn't even

00:03:06.020 factor into this I said ages ago that Burnham would win but that was fairly that wasn't too

00:03:09.760 hard to put it more recently i said he'd win even if reform and restore together won't match him

00:03:14.280 which is what's happened but that was fairly obvious in recent days just from polls and odds

00:03:18.920 it just became clear but it's not that surprising because burnham as i said he's an established

00:03:23.060 politician he's got labor machinery behind him most of it except starmer he's ultra slick he's

00:03:27.800 been around a long time they like him in the north they're taking him very popular in the north like

00:03:31.780 oh oasis they're taken in by that i said this as a northerner and that goes a long way you're up

00:03:36.800 against a plumber who's maybe stood once and someone in the store who's never stood it that's

00:03:40.260 a massive difference people in my replies telling me i'm an idiot but thinking burnham would win it's

00:03:43.360 like this is david and goliath it always was and you know and he's we can just talk about it later

00:03:48.620 but whether this is labour being popular or burnham burnham's popularity is much higher than

00:03:53.220 that of the labour party from my experience going to makerfield and speaking to the canvassers

00:03:57.560 obviously you get a very different experience talking to the restore canvassers versus talking

00:04:02.980 to the average man in the street. On Monday, I was mainly talking to the restore canvassers and

00:04:07.660 got a very optimistic picture. On Tuesday, I was speaking to the average man on the street and felt

00:04:12.540 my soul slipping from my body. And I love the working man. I have a great relationship with

00:04:19.460 the working man, but sometimes it is an abusive relationship. Sometimes I feel slightly beaten

00:04:25.200 down because it was just speaking to people. And lots of people were saying, oh, I don't know that

00:04:28.760 there's an election on a lot of people ask me what's a by-election uh which is to be expected

00:04:34.140 because people have lives to live they're not expected to really this is the problem with

00:04:38.360 democracy not everybody can constantly have their minds on a million things at once and will make

00:04:43.040 their decisions through habit and through shorthand heuristics right and one of the main

00:04:49.120 responses i was getting from people was i'm gonna vote for andy burnham why are you gonna vote for

00:04:53.940 Andy Burnham I would just like him he just comes across like a good guy and that goes a long way

00:04:59.440 in electoral politics especially now we're sort of in the era of personality politics aren't we

00:05:03.680 more like America some people really like Farage others hate him some people really like Burnham

00:05:08.120 and people do speak in terms of these individuals far more than parties the party loyalty has

00:05:12.700 gone down a bit even though this was traditionally a labor area others said well they voted leave so

00:05:17.240 there'll be reformed but no but actually people are just voting for Burnham as this kind of

00:05:20.660 mayoral figure and we were discussing before the podcast he'll struggle once he's in and the

00:05:24.740 reality kicks in but for now he's a beloved northern mayor who's done something with the

00:05:28.800 buses yeah and i think the i think the smear campaign against uh reforms robert kenyon was

00:05:33.500 was incredibly effective even though it was completely sort of baseless and ridiculous so

00:05:38.660 um what's her name carol vorderman yeah the national treasure yeah the national treasure

00:05:44.060 who like spent the last 30 years just wiggling her bottom in the national papers you know then 0.56

00:05:49.000 then comes out and talking about her sex life 0.69

00:05:50.940 and, oh, I get pumped by five guys

00:05:53.060 and all this sort of stuff.

00:05:53.940 Five guys, not the burger chain,

00:05:55.000 but she probably has been pumped 0.99

00:05:56.860 by a burger chain as well.

00:05:57.840 But, you know, she came out

00:05:59.740 and she's like,

00:06:00.240 this man made a joke online

00:06:02.740 about 10 years ago

00:06:04.380 and he impugned my dignity.

00:06:06.580 Number one, number one,

00:06:07.920 like you've no dignity to impugn.

00:06:09.680 Number two, it was a funny joke.

00:06:11.480 That joke should have been on the poster.

00:06:13.400 So somebody had posted something

00:06:15.200 about sniffing Carole Fordham and Sarge.

00:06:19.000 And he posted underneath, and somebody else posted underneath.

00:06:22.340 This is disgusting and shocking.

00:06:23.720 And Robert Kenyon posted underneath,

00:06:26.020 and to be fair, he's just saying what we're all thinking.

00:06:28.720 It was perfectly toned.

00:06:31.320 It was very funny.

00:06:32.300 It shows he's got a sense of humour.

00:06:33.840 And this is the thing, man.

00:06:35.020 These campaigns, the smear campaigns, are incredibly effective. 1.00

00:06:38.600 The only time Kamala Harris looked like she was actually gaining ground on Trump 1.00

00:06:42.740 when they were going to head-to-head

00:06:44.560 was when she came out with that weird sort of,

00:06:46.660 he gives me the ick.

00:06:48.600 He gives me the ick. 1.00

00:06:49.520 I'm sure that played very well with women. 1.00

00:06:51.660 Yeah, completely baseless. 1.00

00:06:53.560 No logic to it whatsoever.

00:06:55.100 It doesn't mean anything. 1.00

00:06:55.980 Exactly, plays well with women. 1.00

00:06:57.300 It just ties into that high school mean girls nonsense. 1.00

00:07:01.840 And this Carol Vorderman campaign did the same thing.

00:07:04.780 Well, this was something that I was told by the Restore Canvassers.

00:07:08.300 And again, the on-the-ground game and the talk that you get from them

00:07:12.240 is going to be coloured.

00:07:13.080 It's going to be very optimistic.

00:07:14.400 They had great energy.

00:07:15.340 And I thought that they were all really, really lovely guys.

00:07:17.360 good on them for all going out and putting a great ground game on. But they were telling me

00:07:22.880 that a lot of the talk that they'd had from women who had been thinking of voting reform was that

00:07:28.480 even those women had been put off by what Robert Kenyon said. So this result is going to have been

00:07:33.100 colored by a number of things, the general popularity of Andy Burnham, the controversy

00:07:38.320 surrounding Robert Kenyon, and then frankly, just the feeling that you get from speaking to people

00:07:43.380 on the door that people are very polite. They might just tell you yes, or they might say maybe

00:07:48.960 because they don't want to be impolite to an enthusiastic young man who knocks on their door

00:07:53.200 with a smile on their face. And when you were walking around,

00:07:56.200 like what did the area feel like? I saw somebody on Twitter say that, you know, it's not an area

00:08:01.880 that's been impacted by mass immigration yet. It's still largely, well, I think the demographics

00:08:08.800 as of 2020 in that census were 95 percent white right um it's in between manchester and liverpool

00:08:15.340 so obviously you do have massive diversity centers liverpool less so although it is full

00:08:20.220 of the irish um but manchester is a big diversity center you have them right next to one another

00:08:25.280 i went into wigan town center and wigan town center as i said in the video is like if you've

00:08:30.060 been to one town center across the country you've been to wigan yeah it's very it's very diversified

00:08:35.100 but still it doesn't matter to a lot of people because they aren't experiencing some of the

00:08:41.740 repercussions and Andy Burnham is just the friendly face that they're familiar with

00:08:45.540 who is part of the Labour Party which is going through some troubles right now but

00:08:49.900 Andy Burnham might be the thing to bring Labour back together and they are historically just an

00:08:55.160 area that has voted Labour forever. That's the thing you're up against with Manchester particularly

00:09:00.560 Liverpool you're up against the reflexive leftism and socialism of those areas they're always like

00:09:04.660 that and people say well they haven't experienced the problems with immigration i even wonder because

00:09:08.740 i know people like in my football team normal the normies they say things like oh well places change

00:09:14.340 over time countries change in history they're incredibly blasé about this so i don't know if

00:09:18.320 it's like even if they were really suffering some of the bad effects of immigration if they'd even

00:09:22.580 change their mind yeah i'm not convinced yeah and and it seems to be a pretty regular turnout as

00:09:28.080 well frankly you get um labor getting about 20 to 30 000 votes conservatives or any right-wing

00:09:36.920 party getting about you know 10 to 18 000 votes and the ukip were second there uh this was back

00:09:46.880 in 2015 right uh so yeah there is there is like um of the people who turn out to vote in this area

00:09:54.160 there's about a 15 to 20,000 strong right wing base with a 20 to 25 to 30 in some exceptional

00:10:04.620 cases strong 30,000 strong left wing predominantly labor base so that is what we were up against

00:10:13.720 and in light of that I don't think it's surprising the results I think what's most surprising for a

00:10:24.140 here i think restore for an upstart party that had no foothold in the area uh who were going

00:10:30.780 entirely off of ground game and recent momentum did relatively well yeah if you were being really

00:10:35.700 objective and this is not cope as much as people will say it is because i'm i'm pretty i try to be

00:10:40.100 pretty objective and i'm attacked by all people as a result if you were just being objective for

00:10:44.360 a new party if there hadn't been any hype and there wasn't a media and reform machine against

00:10:48.420 you you might say seven percent is actually perfectly respectable in context people are

00:10:52.700 saying it's a total failure i actually think i am there was there was the hype train of some people

00:10:57.240 going as far as saying we're going to get 20 yeah and that's a mistake yeah because all politicians

00:11:01.080 manage expectations and that's what restore didn't do on the reform side i don't think i'm being

00:11:05.160 partisan to say i think it does play badly for them there is an angle of course where you say

00:11:10.020 it's their apparently their second best by election result and you say they've still they're still

00:11:14.220 doing well there is that argument but i also i just it may be a feeling there's a feeling that

00:11:18.740 they're just not quite doing it. They fall short, they fell short in Gorton.

00:11:23.400 Well, that's the asterisk, isn't it? It's a good result, but have they won any by-elections

00:11:29.120 of the recent ones, of the recent rounds of by-elections?

00:11:31.860 They still seem stuck in this. They want to attack the right, they want to distance themselves

00:11:36.320 from the store, but they don't quite gain anyone on the left or centre-left anyway.

00:11:40.280 And it's like, what is the point of them? I just end up thinking we're going to, I mean,

00:11:43.280 the Tories won in Aberdeen, I just end up thinking we're going back to the Tories.

00:11:46.280 Reform was just the Tories anyway.

00:11:47.620 Well, let's also be frank here. I'm sure to a certain proportion of voters, what's going on with Reform and Restore will simply play as right-wing bickering, and they don't want to vote for right-wing bickering.

00:12:03.080 Yeah, I think it damaged both of them, to be honest. I know if people are saying, well, if you combine the Vote, the Reform and Restore vote, they still wouldn't have won.

00:12:09.660 But I think, you know, if they'd been united and, you know, maybe restored, stepped down, I think reform would have seemed more credible and more solid and a better option for more people would have voted for them.

00:12:23.140 People don't like infighting. And if you look at it now, though, I've seen Nadine Doris, Rayl Braverman.

00:12:27.500 They're still doing it. They're still doing it. It's like, oh, yeah, but we beat you. It's like, look, you only got 7%. It's like, you lost.

00:12:32.960 You still lost.

00:12:33.820 Burnham.

00:12:34.160 Yeah, it's just a fantasy.

00:12:35.280 Sorry, they're acting as though they were the ones who came out with 55% of the vote

00:12:40.320 shot.

00:12:40.480 Right.

00:12:40.940 Because their real hatred is for restore.

00:12:42.480 The other side, it's like, okay, we're in a sort of a sportsmanly contest, but their

00:12:46.180 real visible hatred is for restore.

00:12:48.940 You see it all the time because it's not tactically smart the way they attack them.

00:12:51.780 So I think it's just genuine hatred.

00:12:53.340 I mean, also, I, for one, am completely shocked that campaign videos like this didn't absolutely

00:12:58.900 cinch the vote for reform.

00:13:00.940 What?

00:13:01.360 What?

00:13:01.800 What?

00:13:02.220 What?

00:13:03.820 this this was posted less than two two weeks two weeks before the vote on rob kenyon's official

00:13:19.880 twitter account i can't believe it didn't pull the white working classes of makerfield out to

00:13:25.980 the polling stations my god this was ill judged and in general leo's right that the rob had some

00:13:30.820 problems with his campaign the the way they you know they bring him on question time he's not an

00:13:34.140 experienced politician you're an evil bloke as you sort of hinted at earlier if you spend two

00:13:38.260 minutes with a northern plumber you're gonna hear much worse than the things he tweeted to me that's

00:13:42.180 just normal if you grew up in a small village where there's a lot of plumbers and electricians

00:13:45.740 yeah yeah everyone i knew was like that at school so it's like what are you talking about but in the

00:13:49.860 mainstream it plays badly and as you say this didn't help i mean that just doesn't that's not

00:13:53.720 gonna when like i've looked at some of the stuff that andy burnham has said in the victory rally

00:13:58.640 and his victory speech and if that has been the messaging that he has been promoting i can

00:14:03.540 understand why we need a politics of hope we need uh to get rid of the division we need to

00:14:09.640 re-industrialize the north we need uh secure jobs for 16 to 18 year olds and all the stuff he's not

00:14:16.240 going to do well all of this stuff that when he gets into the system if he even gets into uh number

00:14:21.160 10 in the first place is going to say sorry mate the coffers are empty yeah can't can't do any of

00:14:26.540 that um all of that stuff that he's not going to do but from a normie perspective on the ground

00:14:31.040 that's going to sound a lot more promising yeah as a message it's going to sound did the same

00:14:37.400 and go and it's all local jobs northern stuff and it although i'm sure rob campaign on that i mean

00:14:41.900 his video in the van with nigel was much better to be fair when having a normal chat in the van

00:14:45.560 that was better it was a bit hit and miss reform also did that bizarre attack on kemi bay not which 0.99

00:14:50.060 didn't make any sense about black lives matter they're they're like who cares about the 0.77

00:14:54.360 Well, she's always been kind of consistent on that. 1.00

00:14:56.500 How many votes did the Conservatives get?

00:14:57.980 Yeah, it's less than a thousand.

00:15:00.000 Yeah, they're nowhere.

00:15:00.720 I mean, people don't talk about that.

00:15:01.600 People are saying it's an embarrassment for a store,

00:15:02.900 but they're still way bigger than the toys in that area.

00:15:04.800 Yeah, and look at Green.

00:15:06.820 I mean, considering Hannah Spencer, 1.00

00:15:08.240 not too far from there, got elected in another by-election. 0.85

00:15:13.440 And Lib Dems, it's their worst result ever in a by-election.

00:15:15.560 Yeah.

00:15:15.840 Is it really?

00:15:16.580 Yeah.

00:15:17.460 So we are seeing a shift,

00:15:19.560 but I do worry that, Nick,

00:15:21.000 you might have something to the idea

00:15:22.700 that by the time we get to 2029,

00:15:24.360 there's going to be some holdout reform areas some holdout conservative areas and they're just

00:15:30.020 going to go all right coalition there'll be a coalition i mean and then now where restore fit

00:15:34.360 into that is questionable because there's so much bad blood you can almost see kemi doing a deal with

00:15:38.040 rupert though the base wouldn't like it because they get on but restoring reform probably can

00:15:42.540 never never get on but tories and reform doing a deal is basically nailed on and if we move to

00:15:48.360 there's enough tories in the reform shadow cabinets anyway right exactly it's the same

00:15:52.340 party but if see some people saying burnable pushes towards proportional representation he

00:15:56.480 says he won't do it before the next election but nothing he says you can take he's held every

00:16:00.540 position he's held every position but let's say we have proportional representation what you'll

00:16:03.740 end up with is a mixture of tories reform and restore and if if we have first past the post

00:16:07.780 it will be tories and reform in a deal it's the same thing this is why i'm trying to be pragmatic

00:16:11.840 and people are shouting at me in replies what you end up with is not your dream party you end up with

00:16:16.660 a sort of coalition very massive compromise thing that maybe slightly reduces immigration

00:16:21.720 or pressures Labour to reduce immigration.

00:16:24.240 I'm sorry if this is Blackburn.

00:16:25.080 I just think it's how it is.

00:16:26.800 But would they reduce immigration as much as Chad Starmer has?

00:16:30.140 Well, exactly.

00:16:31.860 Chad Subban and Mahmood, exactly.

00:16:33.740 Or would it be a return to Boris,

00:16:35.920 who's apparently going to take back control of our borders

00:16:37.980 and instead gave control of our borders to Sudan and Somalia?

00:16:40.760 There's also the worry that people forget quite easily with these things

00:16:46.600 and the Conservatives might, like the undertaker emerging from the coffin,

00:16:51.720 Boris Johnson might re-emerge

00:16:53.960 into the political scene.

00:16:55.420 Well, Kemi's polling well.

00:16:56.320 She polls better than the party.

00:16:57.980 People still haven't forgiven the party,

00:16:59.360 but they have just won in Aberdeen.

00:17:00.740 I wouldn't rule it out.

00:17:02.340 I'm just being pragmatic.

00:17:03.620 I mean, I'm not blackpilling.

00:17:04.960 I just, when I was ill for age

00:17:06.180 and I just sat home thinking,

00:17:07.460 do I just want to do politics?

00:17:08.460 And I started my literature channel

00:17:09.640 as a result.

00:17:10.420 But the point is, Nick Reed,

00:17:11.440 the point is,

00:17:12.180 the point is,

00:17:13.200 no, I'm not going to promote it.

00:17:14.160 It's called Nick Reed.

00:17:14.700 But the point is,

00:17:16.360 people are saying I'm blackpilling

00:17:17.240 on the store.

00:17:17.820 I'm just blackpilling

00:17:18.360 on all of politics.

00:17:19.160 I'm just,

00:17:19.380 but i think i'm being realistic i said bernard win by a lot it's just politics you're not going

00:17:23.700 to get everything you want restore can play a function pressuring reform or who knows how

00:17:27.620 they can they can build on seven percent but most likely you're going to get a three-month-old party

00:17:31.980 again that's a really good probably going to get some sort of compromise because you've got to be

00:17:35.380 these nutters by the way who will tactically vote because they think reformer nazis that's what

00:17:39.640 you're up against you're up against they'll do they'll do anything to keep out they'll vote

00:17:42.560 plied cymru they'll vote lib dem if they have to whether the greens fit into that is a question a

00:17:47.600 bit like does restore fit into this coalition do the greens on the left fit into it or or not but

00:17:52.080 they'll do anything they can tactically to keep out the right or the quasi-right and they've got

00:17:57.540 the whole media on this i think i think the greens would be easier to contain in a some kind of

00:18:02.220 coalition if they off the back of this if they even manage to build any momentum off of that

00:18:07.620 disappeared a little bit hasn't he yeah and there's also all of the tax problems that he's

00:18:11.540 facing at the moment ironically um so i think they would be easier to contain than like a corbyn

00:18:18.800 not that your party is even a force on the electoral map at the moment but like corbyn

00:18:25.060 was actually ousted for being something of a leftist dissident as much as he was insane

00:18:29.760 and would have tanked the country he was again he was not on the plan he was not part of the plan

00:18:34.840 right the greens could i think be more tactically maneuvered around good it's the question wasn't

00:18:40.920 where they're not quite allowed in the plan either

00:18:42.760 because they're so mental and all the anti-Semitism.

00:18:45.560 It is similar to Corbyn in that way.

00:18:47.340 So they're kind of not allowed in,

00:18:48.760 whether they can be allowed into that coalition.

00:18:50.240 But you are up against people who will tactically vote

00:18:52.140 any of these parties just to keep up,

00:18:53.860 because they all think reform are fascists.

00:18:55.940 It's so weird because obviously if you're in liberality,

00:18:58.140 they're a centrist liberal party.

00:18:59.280 I've met, you know, I go to my pub,

00:19:01.560 I go to Miraculous and I speak to the people

00:19:04.720 and it is funny hearing the people who think

00:19:07.280 that Nigel Farage is an out-and-out Hitler worshipper.

00:19:10.140 they think they think that he's the the second coming of um joseph mengler yeah or something

00:19:17.760 they think that he's going to personally dismember migrants on the channel as soon as they get off of

00:19:23.040 the boat man i'd love to have the version of reform that exists in left-wing people's minds

00:19:28.360 yeah yeah he's basically a 90s lib dem with a little bit more on immigration that's how i

00:19:32.020 yeah yeah but uh you know speaking of nigel he's made a um statement regarding this and basically

00:19:39.360 he just said he throws some shade at restore uh by saying you know reform of the party who are

00:19:44.840 going to make change in this country people of restore what do you want and he says that he tries

00:19:49.560 to spin the loss by saying that our campaign message was get starmer out andy burnham has

00:19:56.280 basically campaigned on the same thing but we'll actually get starmer out potentially so he's saying

00:20:02.120 it like oh we kind of shot ourselves in the foot with that one kind of taking some good grace with

00:20:05.960 it Rupert quite a strange part of that video is he said they came second in our growth but they

00:20:10.880 came third so he actually got that completely wrong but bizarrely but he does also admit in

00:20:15.160 the video he was hoping for 18,000 and then he got 16,000 I think that's correct so he admits

00:20:20.060 he admits that it's a disappointing result yeah well he says it's disappointing but he's still

00:20:25.500 trying to put a kind of like light-hearted spin on it well well you know at least we're gonna get

00:20:31.420 Starmer out after all and we're gonna get Burnham instead which they said was their was their

00:20:34.820 campaign slogan. That's funny, that's what they were campaigning on. Then Matt Goodman starts

00:20:38.260 going, don't, because Burnham will come in instead of Starmer. It's like, get Starmer out was your

00:20:41.960 whole slogan for months. He'll certainly get Starmer out. This is the quickest way to get

00:20:47.100 Starmer out. Again, if the Labour Party even starts to go with that, you did have the Dark

00:20:51.920 Lord emerging in that essay that he wrote recently, where he quite correctly said, listen, if you start

00:20:58.200 shaking the internal party leadership up it will start to resemble post-Boris Tories to a lot of

00:21:05.460 people so you might lose one you might just plunge the party into chaos two you might lose the faith

00:21:10.900 of the people who have been voting Labour in the first place yeah Burnham plays well in the north

00:21:15.080 but if he shakes up the whole party and reorients it to the north which he probably won't be able

00:21:20.800 to do because again sorry mate that we've got no money how's that going to play with people

00:21:25.800 Yes, bracket sack Ed Miliband

00:21:27.480 because he's ruining our chances of AI

00:21:29.140 with his mad energy policy.

00:21:30.700 Yes.

00:21:31.120 The other thing in the Blair.

00:21:31.640 I mean, just the first...

00:21:34.280 Blair's pretty base.

00:21:35.560 The first thing any Labour Party leader should do

00:21:38.940 is just sack Ed Miliband on principle.

00:21:41.420 No, it was right.

00:21:41.920 Get out of the EU.

00:21:43.160 Get rid of Ed Miliband.

00:21:43.940 Sorry, go on.

00:21:44.180 The Aberdeen result is interesting for that

00:21:46.240 because that's really about net zero.

00:21:48.720 Aberdeen's been hammered by net zero.

00:21:50.900 There's an Aberdeen company called Harbour Energy

00:21:53.420 And because of net zero and the windfall taxes and everything, they are a great profitable

00:21:59.620 British company doing great work, getting energy out of oil wells that are near the

00:22:05.140 end of their life.

00:22:06.580 And they make loads of money, made like a billion dollars profit or something last year.

00:22:11.460 But because of the ridiculous net zero and windfall taxes, they paid an equivalent tax

00:22:16.780 rate of 108%.

00:22:18.480 So they paid more tax than they made.

00:22:21.660 It's insane.

00:22:23.040 It's insane.

00:22:23.640 So, you know, they're having to cut staff just to stay afloat,

00:22:26.680 even though, you know, essentially they're profitable

00:22:28.820 and doing really well.

00:22:30.680 So, I mean, Aberdeen has absolutely rejected net zero.

00:22:36.800 So Labour or Andy Burnham, when they get in,

00:22:39.140 now that, you know, public sentiment isn't really behind net zero anymore,

00:22:42.020 he could find some of the money for his projects by slashing net zero.

00:22:45.280 Yeah, $9 billion right there.

00:22:46.020 And also that would, you know, he could neuter Ed Miliband

00:22:48.540 by doing that as well, one of his challengers.

00:22:50.300 If he did it on live television, that would be fantastic.

00:22:52.700 Yeah, and just for the viewer, yeah, Conservatives, 49.5% in Aberdeen South, S&P 28.6, the next reform, 8.6.

00:23:02.660 So it's absolutely crushing. Labour on 5.4%, they were down 19.4%.

00:23:07.140 So it's crushing, and Toys came up 25.1%.

00:23:10.180 So yeah, massive swing, and as you say, based on net zero.

00:23:13.500 That's quite a shift in fortunes for them up there in Scotland as well.

00:23:17.720 Yeah, Rupert's account has put a positive spin on all of this,

00:23:21.220 you know, saying that, you know, we came, we basically came from nothing. We've been around

00:23:24.500 for three months and we still managed to capture a few thousand votes and get 7%. Perfectly fine

00:23:28.880 response. Burnham has been making his victory speeches where he's been saying, you know,

00:23:34.000 this is the final chance to change. This is going to change politics. We're going to focus on

00:23:38.160 neglected areas of the country. You know, his whole Manchesterism, Northernism, and he's going

00:23:44.660 to make sure that the North of England fulfills its potential. Starmer has come out sneakily,

00:23:49.380 you know congratulations i'm so glad that we're going to do this because starma what starma want

00:23:54.980 to do is immediately instead of going for a leadership contest he's going to want to immediately

00:23:58.500 pivot to all right well now we need the mayor election for for manchester we can't get bogged

00:24:04.120 down in all of this national clown politics we don't want to be like reform and everybody else

00:24:08.540 we need to be the serious party and go into manchester mayoral election and get sorted for

00:24:13.300 that you also said a few days ago burnham could have a role in his government which was hilarious

00:24:17.880 And then Burnham said no, but also...

00:24:20.100 Well, he does want a role.

00:24:20.980 But also, he said, I won't take a role under Corbyn

00:24:25.700 because Corbyn wants us out of NATO

00:24:27.080 and then took a role under Corbyn.

00:24:28.380 Right, but obviously Burnham's going to go for leadership

00:24:30.340 and Streeting's going for it as well,

00:24:31.860 but Burnham will win.

00:24:33.460 But what's so funny is this shows

00:24:36.100 that all Keir Starmer's tweets are totally insincere.

00:24:38.040 If he can congratulate Andy Burnham,

00:24:39.660 which we know is absolute nonsense,

00:24:41.740 what else will he say that's absolutely wrong?

00:24:43.520 I just want to congratulate the person that's stealing my job

00:24:45.800 has specifically set up an election just for that.

00:24:48.840 I just love the way that he's trying to spin it as a,

00:24:51.500 you know, look, look, I campaigned for Andy Burnham

00:24:53.820 and what a magnificent, what a magnificent,

00:24:56.400 you know, mandate for me personally.

00:24:58.880 That's the thing, he's the leader of Labour.

00:25:00.080 He's going to try and pivot to the mayoral election

00:25:02.600 and he's also trying to spin it as like,

00:25:04.800 ah, Keir Starmer's Labour Party

00:25:07.040 comes out tops again.

00:25:09.960 Magnificent.

00:25:10.660 Burnham's popularity is here, Labour's is way down here

00:25:12.860 and also, yeah, Starmer's popularity is here.

00:25:15.800 They weren't even mentioning Labour on the doorstep.

00:25:18.080 They were campaigning as Burnham.

00:25:19.880 Because you say Starmer on the doorstep, it was toxic.

00:25:21.820 But if you even said Labour, they were campaigning like an individual,

00:25:25.220 like a new sort of politics, just vote Burnham.

00:25:26.900 Again, my feeling was that people like Burnham

00:25:29.180 and anybody who put Burnham in the perspective of the Labour Party

00:25:32.800 was seeing it as Burnham will be able to take over from Starmer

00:25:36.780 and right the ship.

00:25:37.600 Yeah.

00:25:38.620 They weren't even really considering local issues as Labour voters.

00:25:42.560 they were just they were just like like burnham hate starmer it's deluded easy weirdly it's the

00:25:48.480 same delusion that let starmer in because when it came to the election it was the famous loveless

00:25:52.540 landslide people like right we hate the tories what else is there oh labor but they didn't like

00:25:56.260 them but burnham i think it's the same delusion it's like all right burnham will do it of course

00:26:00.180 he won't this is just the mad this is eternal optimism of the normie of course he won't the

00:26:04.280 other thing that's funny about this by the way is that starmer apparently has a personal animus

00:26:07.400 with burnham and streeting just hates them they hate each other even aside from of course they

00:26:11.440 would hate each other now but apparently it's long-standing so just laughable yeah uh you

00:26:16.200 hinted at it earlier the bizarre reaction from rail braverman and other people within the reform

00:26:22.980 party or associated with the reform party has been has been to gloat over the fact that restore got

00:26:29.300 a smaller vote share than they did um even though you lost you also lost you do realize that you

00:26:38.300 lost as well like nadine doris this is the this is the message that must have gone out in all of

00:26:43.740 the group chats because i've been seeing it all morning less than the bnp in 2010 bnp who by 2010

00:26:49.880 had actually built up a huge base for themselves especially across the north and had been around

00:26:54.520 for about 28 years up to that point got less than the bnp in 2010 i've seen all of these people

00:27:00.380 doing it again nadine doris um the reform lost yeah that shows their lack of ambition they don't

00:27:05.900 want to win they just want to stamp on Rupert and the BNP thing is meant to say you're a fringe party

00:27:10.540 and you're not even as good as the mad fringe party of the past that's what they're trying to

00:27:13.800 say but he's like folks it's a complete cell phone yeah it's embarrassing yeah uh Sam Melia

00:27:19.660 pointed out that if you look at it from the 2024 general election result you can see again like I

00:27:24.280 pointed out earlier the actual margins have barely shifted I mean obviously the left has uh like

00:27:30.120 Labour has picked up all of that left vote but still in terms of the actual margins of the overall

00:27:34.740 vote share it's basically almost like the toys have just gone and they've picked that up it

00:27:38.300 almost looks like yeah it's basically the exact same that we're seeing and again uh here's keir

00:27:45.100 starmer although i mean i guess some of the because i mean reform and restore are for a lot of people

00:27:51.620 are kind of protest vote against the status quo against the uniparty and andy burnham i think a

00:27:56.140 lot of people were voting andy burnham as a sort of you know disruptor as somebody who's going to

00:28:00.840 who's got the best chance of deposing Keir Starmer.

00:28:03.800 Yeah, well, Keir Starmer has chosen to take the opportunity

00:28:07.320 to try and crap all over reform in this, saying this.

00:28:11.420 There's evidence, actually, if you look at it in the context of other by-elections,

00:28:15.160 that the tide is turning on reform, that they can't now win by-elections.

00:28:19.620 They've reached probably the peak of their support, and it's going down.

00:28:23.820 So very good. Congratulations to Andy Burnham.

00:28:26.260 But actually, tide is turning on reform as well.

00:28:28.200 So this is really important in that respect.

00:28:31.320 Another spectacular win for Starmer.

00:28:33.600 That's so funny.

00:28:34.920 Balls on this guy.

00:28:35.820 It's so funny.

00:28:36.720 I mean, he's right.

00:28:37.920 That's what I said earlier.

00:28:38.880 Reform showing, like, can they really make it?

00:28:41.060 But to say the tide is turning when it's just turned on you.

00:28:43.740 You and Starmer are completely on the same page here.

00:28:46.120 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:46.380 Like with so much else.

00:28:47.440 Yes, with so much else.

00:28:48.180 But this whole election, the tide's turned against Starmer.

00:28:50.720 The whole election is, I hate Starmer election.

00:28:52.840 That's all it is.

00:28:53.500 Like she said, that's why people are voting Burda.

00:28:55.460 You can stand there.

00:28:56.720 I mean, they're nuts on it.

00:28:58.280 You've got to respect it.

00:28:59.060 I said, him and cockroaches are all that survive a nuclear apocalypse.

00:29:02.080 He's unbelievable.

00:29:03.360 I wish I had some of that lack of self-awareness of Star Wars.

00:29:07.420 It's a great victory for me.

00:29:08.760 They couldn't mention his name on the doorstep.

00:29:10.380 They had to pretend they were a different party, the Andy Burnham party,

00:29:13.040 because they hate you so much.

00:29:14.360 And now the question becomes, over the weekend,

00:29:17.560 will a leadership contest be triggered?

00:29:21.300 Burnham supposedly says that he has the 81 votes behind him needed to trigger it.

00:29:26.620 I think Wes Streeting says the same thing.

00:29:29.060 So will this go to a leadership contest and will the rest of the MPs and the Labour membership vote in favour of Burnham, Starmer, Streeting?

00:29:38.260 I think Streeting has got no chance whatsoever.

00:29:41.380 Streeting is just a complete non-factor and also, like so much else in the Labour Party, one of the most hateable faces out there, which again, just in public politics doesn't play very well.

00:29:53.500 Streeting's problem is, it doesn't sound ridiculous, but it's lack of popularity in the party and with the public.

00:29:58.700 That's his big problem.

00:29:59.680 Nobody cares about Westry thing.

00:30:01.500 Yeah, he's going to struggle.

00:30:02.660 The only thing Starmer's got going for him 0.96

00:30:03.960 is the Byzantine complexity

00:30:05.460 of the Labour leadership election system.

00:30:07.700 It's not like the Tories,

00:30:08.760 where you just sort of,

00:30:09.680 you just put your hand up

00:30:10.700 and say, get rid of that guy,

00:30:12.240 and that's done.

00:30:13.220 Labour is so complicated

00:30:14.160 and it takes ages.

00:30:14.960 You've got to get all the 80.

00:30:15.980 Now he will go because he was already gone.

00:30:19.140 Defence Secretary gone.

00:30:20.820 Al Qans, head of army,

00:30:22.580 you know, army minister gone.

00:30:24.380 All the, Shabana Mahmood telling him

00:30:25.880 you have to go as Home Secretary.

00:30:27.520 You know, all this.

00:30:28.020 recent disastrous uh what was it recent disastrous thing with the defense spending as well

00:30:33.540 which came like nine months late or something yeah no it's a disaster but now you've got a

00:30:38.660 guy proving he can win you get massively popular result it's absolutely starma's completely finished

00:30:43.340 i mean he shouldn't last a day but he only will because of the bizarre complexity of the system

00:30:47.580 there's the bizarre complexity of the system but i also think that starma has one boost from the

00:30:52.640 Blairite stability candidate of, if we do this, will this start a chain reaction, turning the

00:30:59.900 party into a chaotic mess like the Tories turned into? Because Burnham takes the helm. He's going

00:31:06.740 to have all of those same structural problems that Starmer has been dealing with. He's very

00:31:11.200 popular now, but after six months as head of the Labour Party, face of the country, and nothing

00:31:17.680 has improved, everything is the same and continues to get worse because the structural problems

00:31:22.460 are within government in the first place before we came on i described the government as a very

00:31:28.000 delicate house of cards stacked on top on top of a needle and if you do anything the needle will

00:31:34.600 just fall over and the whole thing will collapse in on itself burnham's going to have to deal with

00:31:38.360 that so after six months of not being able to get whatever agenda that he may have through and the

00:31:43.040 government just pushing through the agenda it has anyway is he just going to tank in popularity as

00:31:47.920 well but against that you see on that side yes you've got the what's he going to promise john

00:31:51.960 Healy. He's got to promise him 3% of the defence budget. If it comes from welfare, the backbench

00:31:55.960 is rebel. If it comes from borrowing, the bond markets rebel. So yeah, it's an impossible

00:32:00.100 situation. But what you're not factoring in is the irrationality and sheer stupidity of the

00:32:05.100 Labour backbench. They want Burnham. They're the so-called soft left, which means the mad left,

00:32:09.860 but not quite as mad as Corbyn left. They want Burnham, so they won't care that he's not actually

00:32:14.000 going to do anything in reality. They just like Burnham, and he's got massive support within the

00:32:17.220 party. I mean, Ed Miliband does as well. He'll have to give Miliband some job, probably chancellor.

00:32:21.100 that's a question

00:32:22.420 which is worse

00:32:23.500 Miliband staying

00:32:24.300 as energy

00:32:24.860 and destroying

00:32:26.300 energy

00:32:26.960 or put him in

00:32:27.640 for charge of

00:32:28.000 Chancellor

00:32:28.340 destroying money

00:32:29.700 yeah it's a disaster

00:32:31.000 but Miliband has a

00:32:32.100 bizarre amount of

00:32:32.640 power in the party

00:32:33.180 so he'll give

00:32:33.900 Miliband something

00:32:34.600 the backbenchers

00:32:36.020 won't care about

00:32:36.560 your logic

00:32:37.020 they'll just say

00:32:37.480 we want Burnham

00:32:38.040 they'll say look at

00:32:38.600 the result and

00:32:39.120 make a field

00:32:39.660 and look how

00:32:40.440 unpopular Starmer

00:32:41.140 is I think it's

00:32:41.700 done

00:32:41.960 it's just a

00:32:42.940 question of time

00:32:43.740 yeah

00:32:44.120 but again like

00:32:45.600 whatever agenda

00:32:46.620 Andy Burnham has

00:32:47.880 at the moment

00:32:48.780 will probably change

00:32:50.080 by the end of

00:32:50.740 next week anyway, because it just constantly changes to fit whichever audience that he's

00:32:54.980 talking to. Like we talk about Starmer's U-turns, Andy Burnham's taken just as many U-turns,

00:33:00.300 like his appreciation for benefits for migrants, the NRPF scheme, which he used to be very in

00:33:07.280 favour of, isn't anymore. Immigration reforms, he was very anti-Shabana Mahmood and her changes to

00:33:13.200 indefinite leave to remain, now he's very in favour of it. He was very in favour of rejoining 1.00

00:33:17.920 the eu now not so much because the constituency he was applying for were uh all very against being

00:33:24.040 in the eu uh reeves fiscal changes to be more austerity focused where he was like oh you're

00:33:30.180 too you're too submissive to the bond markets turns out actually now the bond markets are

00:33:34.380 the thing that we need to be focusing on because we don't want to collapse the economy it's mad

00:33:38.260 when left-wing politicians say oh we can't be we can't be controlled by the bond markets it's like

00:33:42.560 you have to you have to borrow money off the bond market it's not like they're controlling it it's

00:33:47.300 They don't have to lend the money to you.

00:33:50.500 You know what I mean?

00:33:50.920 It's like if I go up to some guy in the pub

00:33:52.820 and I say, can you lend me 20 quid?

00:33:54.220 He doesn't have to give me the money.

00:33:55.940 It's not like that guy in the pub controls me.

00:33:58.420 It only controls me if I absolutely desperately

00:34:00.600 need that 20 quid and I'll do anything

00:34:02.660 to get that 20 quid.

00:34:04.160 And like you, the government is currently insolvent.

00:34:07.220 Yeah.

00:34:09.540 So they can't go around borrowing anymore.

00:34:12.260 The government is a Scottish boat

00:34:13.460 desperately needing 20 quid off a guy in a pub.

00:34:15.780 Yeah, except it's more like, you know, 50 billion quid.

00:34:19.800 And you've already borrowed the 20 quid and you're paying interest on it.

00:34:24.840 It's to pay down the debt, the interest of the 20 quid. 0.56

00:34:28.340 Yeah, and now he also went back on the trans rights stuff.

00:34:31.540 So like whatever Burnham says will basically like wherever the Labour Party line is at any one time is where Burnham will fall.

00:34:38.700 So if the Labour Party are in opposition and they want to be radical or sensible, he will be radical or sensible.

00:34:44.380 If Labour Party are in power and they need to be doing all of things or else the country will just sink into the Atlantic, then he's just going to have to do all of those things.

00:34:53.440 That's why I said to you beforehand, even on these lefty podcasts in New States, when you get a lefty on Times Radio or something, I watch all this rubbish, and they'll say, well, what's really the difference between Berner and Stalin?

00:35:02.020 And they'll say emotion and the ability to communicate.

00:35:04.880 And I'm like, that's nothing, though.

00:35:06.220 That's great for campaigning.

00:35:07.500 But in government, who cares?

00:35:08.940 Oh, he's going to stand up in the House of Commons and seem emotional.

00:35:11.680 What's that going to do for me?

00:35:12.440 He's going to have some zingy one-liners against Kenny Baden-Ark.

00:35:16.220 You need a sort of Dominic Cummings next to you who's going in there, knows all the nuts and bolts and what levers to pull.

00:35:21.940 Because this is the problem.

00:35:22.820 Even Keir Starmer, who's an absolute Borg-like automaton, he was saying how impossible it is to get anything done.

00:35:30.560 You pull one lever and nothing happens and three levers get pulled over here.

00:35:34.700 So actually making the apparatus of government do anything that you want, any of the things that you've promised voters, is pretty much impossible.

00:35:42.440 But I think parliamentary democracy and government is kind of losing legitimacy and is also losing,

00:35:49.620 it's sort of drifting away in terms of like what it actually does, which is weird considering it's

00:35:54.740 bigger, you know, the state is bigger than it's ever been. We're seeing like in Ballymena and

00:35:59.480 Belfast, the migrant policy that the citizens there actually want is being enacted by people

00:36:06.580 on the street. And the grooming gang inquiry, which should have been a government inquiry,

00:36:11.540 is done by a third party.

00:36:14.360 It's done by Rupert Lowe.

00:36:15.980 So the control, the things the government should be doing

00:36:20.100 are sort of drifting away, drifting out of its control.

00:36:23.720 Migrant patrols in Krobera,

00:36:25.920 we've got sort of vigilante action like that. 1.00

00:36:28.680 That's replacing a function of the state

00:36:30.960 because the state isn't doing it.

00:36:32.860 The state just can't function.

00:36:35.140 Yeah.

00:36:35.440 Frankly, the state has one real goal at the moment,

00:36:38.980 which is to push through digital ids and they're doing that at the moment through government

00:36:43.720 censorship of the 16 year 16 and under being social media bans and stuff like that they're

00:36:48.800 just trying to find any way to push through the digital id and i think that their idea is once

00:36:53.520 we have done that we will be able to fix things it's also all they can do is ban stuff it's quite

00:36:58.580 just ban random things you know because the big things i did can you stop the boats can you reduce

00:37:03.380 legal immigration can you fix the economy can you fix cost of living these are all very difficult

00:37:07.520 Can you fix energy? Very massive problems. Whereas like ban something, ban on the 16th social media,

00:37:12.780 that's the kind of thing they can do. They can just sort of generally increase the amount of

00:37:15.760 misery with bans, but they can't do anything. Leo's absolutely right. And that is what decline

00:37:19.580 looks like, really, isn't it? A sort of centralized state that is nominally in charge,

00:37:22.940 but in reality lacks power more. And that's what you see in these sort of South Africa type places

00:37:26.580 more and more. The government can't really do anything, but pretends to.

00:37:29.480 And this is what happened in the Weimar Republic, you know, before Hitler came to power. You saw

00:37:33.920 the sort of street patrols the the street mobs uh yes yeah take taking power and whoever could

00:37:40.720 rally the most people to to the street you know had the had the biggest mandate well we're nowhere

00:37:45.180 near as bad as it was towards the end of the weimar period but when it does get bad enough

00:37:49.600 the people are just going to rally to whoever can feed them yeah we're nowhere near there yet

00:37:54.560 but that's cool we are sliding we do see it a bit with the tommy not comparing tommy to any sort of

00:37:59.880 anything in weimar but if you if you look at the tommy marches the amount of people he can get

00:38:03.320 and the terror that the establishment has tommy robinson comparison i've seen them you know they

00:38:08.300 saying stand for i saw camilla tommy saying you should stand for office well it's like no he's

00:38:11.480 something quite different he's able to get a large amount of people on the street he's an activist

00:38:14.420 a grassroots and that threatens you because not camilla but it threatens starmer because they

00:38:19.340 can't do that and they don't have that legitimacy they're really terrified of that and it and it's

00:38:23.120 funny that the establishment still you know criticizes tommy scapegoats tommy and says that

00:38:27.360 You know, he's extreme far right.

00:38:28.940 If you actually listen to what he's saying

00:38:30.900 and you go to his rallies and like see what's being said

00:38:33.500 and the people that are there.

00:38:34.300 He's annoyingly moderate.

00:38:35.740 He's a neoliberal.

00:38:36.920 He's got the same views they used to have.

00:38:38.420 He's by far, he's like a 1997 Labour supporter.

00:38:42.200 He's like by far the safest off-ramp

00:38:44.260 for the sort of nativist uprising.

00:38:46.620 Just happens to not love Islam.

00:38:47.880 Same as liberal Sam Harris, lefty Christopher Hitchens.

00:38:51.580 Same as any number of people.

00:38:52.780 He's a neoliberal or neocon who happens to not love Islam.

00:38:56.440 That's all.

00:38:56.600 but with that we're coming up to time for this segment so yeah that's everything for uh the

00:39:02.820 labor victory in makerfield i do think that restore put on a good game and got for a brand

00:39:07.820 new party good results reform really are kind of sliding back now they're going to probably have

00:39:15.140 to get into their tory coalition eventually and we'll see what happens over this weekend and see

00:39:20.240 on monday if we are going to have to be reporting on a labor leadership contest or if starma will

00:39:25.240 have somehow managed to cockroach his way out of this one as well. I'll go through some of the

00:39:29.900 rumble rants now. So, random name, I black time every time I see Olukemi Olufonto Badenok.

00:39:36.860 Drunk changeling, this election gave people the option of voting against Labour while still

00:39:41.160 voting for Labour. Excellent point. Sigilstone, hey, what does a portent of doom look like? Most

00:39:47.180 ancient tree in the land suddenly dies. Yes, that did happen. Rip. If only there were signs Labour

00:39:52.340 was about to win jam thanks to all that came to my constituency was great meeting you harry i don't

00:39:58.060 know exactly which one that you were but everybody i met was lovely so great meeting you too it was

00:40:02.600 an incredible month i thought we'd get a higher percentage but it's a good start aim high vote

00:40:06.700 low millions will go yeah with an upstart party like this activating a lot of people that weren't

00:40:11.140 into politics already um i can totally understand the enthusiasm but in the future i think as well

00:40:17.560 is a good ground game it's like nick said it's good to manage expectations um uh but you all did

00:40:24.080 a great job either way tom rat earnham is the quantum superposition of the labor party made

00:40:28.820 flesh its policy exists as blairite managerialism all the way to rabbit communism at the same time

00:40:34.260 that's a great point yeah uh random name i remember when hitler had black women singing

00:40:39.200 jerusalem at nuremberg that was one of the most famous moments in all of the 1930s he's also a

00:40:45.140 hacker um oh god all right so we're on to my segment which is a bit of fun after that very

00:40:53.220 serious and important segment this one isn't serious or important but it is quite interesting

00:40:57.760 this is emma hayes football coach who's been put onto the men's football world cup because you know

00:41:04.300 that's that's what happens now and um you've got to love it if you don't love it you're actually

00:41:09.340 evil and we're going to explain why you're charged yeah but we're also going to explain why itv put 1.00

00:41:14.520 in a kitchen as if to invite needless misogyny luckily all three of us here are feminists and 1.00

00:41:20.280 so we're going to deal with this accordingly but i'm a very well-known respecter of women exactly

00:41:24.620 i'm a i'm a trans woman myself there you go and i'm a notorious the hair transplant to show it

00:41:29.300 i'm a notorious women's rights advocate so together we're going to put this right because

00:41:33.460 there's been far too much misogyny about this poor woman put in a kitchen by tv i just wanted 1.00

00:41:37.320 to recap on who she is here i put a tweet well i don't know why i put this up because i'm a feminist 1.00

00:41:41.760 and what I was thinking. 0.98

00:41:42.700 I said, there goes the last place on earth

00:41:44.300 you could go to not hear a woman praising immigration.

00:41:47.020 I don't know why I was thinking that.

00:41:47.760 This was just a momentary lapse of reason.

00:41:49.540 I think I was on heavy medication.

00:41:50.840 I think you were hacked.

00:41:52.320 I don't know.

00:41:52.720 That's not me, actually.

00:41:53.640 It wasn't me.

00:41:55.360 And this was actually liked by...

00:41:56.880 Wait, no, she wasn't praising immigration in this.

00:41:59.080 I didn't watch this clip. 0.99

00:42:00.500 She is. 0.99

00:42:01.720 By the way, and this was liked secretly by a lot of women.

00:42:04.440 So if you think it's just men,

00:42:05.840 you know you're sort of centre-right women 0.89

00:42:07.940 who won't actively follow you 1.00

00:42:09.820 because they're on certain podcasts,

00:42:11.260 but they like all your tweets they all like this one so it's not just men let's have a look what

00:42:15.680 she said this was about cape verde holding spain to a drawer even though they're like a tiny team

00:42:20.160 made of milkmen where would we be in the world cup without immigration it's it's weird than that

00:42:25.780 but it's like we said i mean and this is a victory for for immigration and for the the quality of of

00:42:33.640 of a team that have been put together from from a bigger arms that are representing their crests

00:42:39.700 it was it wasn't what it didn't make any sense what's the point again what's the point of national

00:42:46.240 parties if the team is made up of people from all over the world it's just it's just a game about

00:42:51.700 who's got the biggest pocketbook yeah if you're just buying yeah well in the club games you just

00:42:56.900 buy one in in the in the national one it's just yeah whoever is in the country now and counts

00:43:01.780 that's why all the teams are quite mixed and that's why lord hannon got in trouble because

00:43:05.560 He said that he called up his French mate,

00:43:07.620 are you watching France versus Ivory Coast?

00:43:09.740 And his mate said, what, you mean the legal immigrants

00:43:11.260 versus the illegal immigrants?

00:43:12.460 He's gotten a lot of trouble for that. 1.00

00:43:13.560 But this doesn't make any sense because all the teams are mixed. 1.00

00:43:16.460 It doesn't even make sense. 1.00

00:43:17.120 But the thing is, can you turn on the football?

00:43:19.640 And one, it used to be a place men could go.

00:43:21.880 And I'm a liberal feminist, so I say Kelly Cates, great presenter. 1.00

00:43:25.400 Women can be the presenter because all you're going to get otherwise 1.00

00:43:28.020 is just some generic bloke anyway. 1.00

00:43:29.800 You don't have to know...

00:43:30.500 Where's the bloke, love?

00:43:31.160 Yeah, but you don't have to know the game inside out

00:43:32.780 if you're the presenter.

00:43:33.680 You're just asking questions.

00:43:34.440 Sometimes it's Gary Lineker

00:43:35.400 But sometimes it's just a bloke

00:43:36.320 Who's never played

00:43:36.840 But to be a commentator

00:43:38.100 Or a pundit

00:43:38.600 The big problem is

00:43:39.580 You haven't played the game

00:43:41.360 At anywhere near that level 1.00

00:43:42.100 Because women's football's rubbish 1.00

00:43:43.200 That's the problem 1.00

00:43:43.840 But they'll just call you

00:43:44.900 Evil and sexist

00:43:45.640 If you say that

00:43:46.360 Even though

00:43:47.540 They put her in a kitchen 0.99

00:43:49.040 Which was just asking for it

00:43:50.340 Crystal says

00:43:50.740 I'm not sure ITV

00:43:51.380 Are massively advancing 0.79

00:43:52.320 The idea of women's equality

00:43:53.280 In football 0.94

00:43:54.140 By having Emma Hayes

00:43:54.900 Giving her analysis

00:43:55.460 From a set

00:43:55.920 Which looks like

00:43:56.380 She's stuck in a kitchen 0.99

00:43:57.280 That is just a kitchen

00:43:58.980 That is a kitchen

00:43:59.560 That's definitely a kitchen

00:44:01.040 That's like one of those 0.57

00:44:01.680 Showroom ones

00:44:02.520 And like you go to

00:44:03.560 Don Elm or whatever

00:44:04.360 It's got a blackboard in it for some reason,

00:44:06.300 I assume, to entertain the children.

00:44:08.120 Put the shopping list on.

00:44:09.340 Yeah, well, let's wait for the memes.

00:44:11.020 And that did, I mean, a lot of people agree with this

00:44:12.680 because it got 29,000 likes, so yeah.

00:44:15.120 A million views.

00:44:16.040 Not sure why they did that.

00:44:17.160 Sort of walked into it with that one.

00:44:19.880 Now, some people are doubting her analysis.

00:44:21.540 Here she points out the keeper can pass the ball

00:44:23.780 to the nearest defender.

00:44:25.340 Emma Hayes delivered her tactical World Cup analysis

00:44:27.780 from a kitchen-like set on ITV.

00:44:30.300 The ill-judged backdrop led to a series of mean memes

00:44:33.480 and cruel AI edits on social media.

00:44:36.560 When teams are going player for player

00:44:39.240 is that the spare player is often the goalkeeper.

00:44:42.500 So if balls are passed backwards to Pickford as they have

00:44:46.040 and the opponent looks to double press,

00:44:49.000 then balls can be bounced at and back to the spare player.

00:44:52.580 I thought he was spot on.

00:44:54.720 So fairly banal analysis coupled with memes.

00:44:58.000 But yeah, some people say...

00:44:59.380 There's only so many ways you can describe men kicking a ball to one another.

00:45:02.780 the thing is people say she's it's exactly the same tactically as the men's game but the when

00:45:10.580 the usa team won the female world cup a group of teenagers beat them shortly after like 14 year old

00:45:17.480 boys so the game is so radically different in in level this is the argument against but you know

00:45:22.380 that's not my argument of course now this is how what the position you're supposed to have

00:45:26.500 by this dude absolutely glorious to see the usual suspects losing their minds over emma hayes

00:45:31.320 being the hydration break analyst one of the most successful coaches in the history of the game

00:45:35.440 who knows a bleep inside out and can articulate it all perfectly bore off bore off leo um and this

00:45:42.260 yeah you specifically this is what you're supposed to believe between this sort of thing and emma hayes

00:45:46.380 killing it during the hydration breaks it's been not been a good evening for the shouty men that's

00:45:50.940 you it's the shout i can't help it this is the natural volume of my voice nick come on well you

00:45:55.440 should know by now it's so funny like how you have to like women's football i remember going

00:45:59.540 in the pub with my football team five-a-side team and we were watching the women's world cup and i

00:46:04.040 just said barn the keeper's rubbish right the goal because the goalies have always been rubbish

00:46:08.320 because the goal's far too big there was talk about making the goal smaller they want to do 1.00

00:46:12.180 that because then it's kind of admitting it's a different game because women are women are just 0.99

00:46:16.040 a lot smaller and the goal is mad you ever stood in a goal like you're tall but you stand in a goal 0.50

00:46:21.500 full pitch it's massive people people in secondary school always put me in goal because i'm big and

00:46:27.820 And I was like, I'm terrible at this, guys.

00:46:30.580 I'm warning you.

00:46:31.760 Full goals are massive.

00:46:32.800 So it is ridiculous.

00:46:34.220 But I said in the pub, I go, but aren't the keepers rubbish?

00:46:36.300 Everyone was like silent.

00:46:37.220 It was like, like the record stopped.

00:46:38.780 Everyone looked at me and went, no, no, no, they're a lot better now.

00:46:40.620 And I was like, oh, the current thing has been updated.

00:46:45.060 This is the same thing they did with American professional wrestling,

00:46:49.100 when all of a sudden half of every show has to be dedicated

00:46:52.080 to the women's wrestling.

00:46:53.220 And they are desperate, desperate to convince you,

00:46:56.180 no, they're just as good as the men now.

00:46:57.460 They put on just as good matches and half of the matches is them clumsily stumbling around and botching every move that they do.

00:47:04.040 And even the moves that they do just look weak and pathetic. 1.00

00:47:06.680 Back in the day, that was just a shameless excuse to have basically women in bikinis, wasn't it? 1.00

00:47:10.060 Exactly. Back in the Vince McMahon days, it would be bra and panties matches. 1.00

00:47:15.100 And now I've got to like respect them.

00:47:19.280 Anyway.

00:47:20.420 Not that I don't respect women.

00:47:22.100 that's simon harris guy men behaving badly there's uh somebody's done a big uh grift report thing

00:47:27.980 uh breaking down uh he got paid like half a million pounds by essex council to provide social

00:47:34.480 media stuff uh and you know there's some dodgy stuff around that but also uh they're alleging

00:47:40.520 that he's run all these charity scams to raise money for you know whatever it is tampons for

00:47:44.800 somalia whatever it is and then where's the money gone well i just want to in case that's defamation

00:47:49.660 I just want to disavow that and say I don't know anything about it.

00:47:51.640 Oh, I completely disavow it.

00:47:53.860 I've never heard of this.

00:47:54.820 I've never heard of this man to begin with.

00:47:56.840 It was an interesting thing to read.

00:47:58.240 And I think if you look at anybody, virtue signals on social media,

00:48:02.720 that's how you find wrongings.

00:48:04.560 Are you saying, Leo, that people claim to be one thing in public

00:48:07.500 when they're actually really bad? 0.95

00:48:08.500 Are you like, what, like male feminists actually being like

00:48:11.340 people who assault women or something?

00:48:12.540 I know, it's a radical theory.

00:48:14.820 Well, as a male feminist yourself, Nick,

00:48:16.720 do you have anything to comment on?

00:48:18.160 Yeah, there is that. 0.96

00:48:18.720 I did touch a woman's knee in the early 70s. 0.53

00:48:21.600 It was a me too.

00:48:22.980 You weren't even born in the 80s.

00:48:24.420 I know. 0.82

00:48:26.600 Sophie, the misogyny from certain group singular

00:48:29.640 against Emma Hayes is wild. 0.93

00:48:31.100 None of us want any Aluko to be, whatever her name is,

00:48:33.820 to be commentating the women's football 1.00

00:48:35.620 because she's utterly crap.

00:48:36.900 But Emma Hayes is good.

00:48:37.940 Hating her just because you hate women is not it. 0.55

00:48:39.920 So you're not allowed to hate her

00:48:40.800 because apparently she's good.

00:48:42.700 But I don't think it matters if she's good, honestly,

00:48:44.320 because the game is so radically different.

00:48:45.920 My theory is this.

00:48:46.740 you have Martina Navratilova on the tennis the game is radically different you could go well

00:48:52.360 down the male rankings and they'd still beat the leading woman and even Serena or Venus Williams

00:48:56.820 admitted John McEnroe would be like in his 50s and stuff the men's game is much more powerful

00:49:00.720 however the women's game is still very good I've seen like you know I used to go to a tennis club

00:49:04.520 and even the young girls like massive top spin bouncing over your head they are very good it's

00:49:08.540 the same court the serves harder but it is a much more similar game and the women's game is quite

00:49:13.100 high quality you look at the women's football i'm sorry i know it's blasphemy it's just nowhere

00:49:16.720 near the quality yeah so when you've got roy keen there this is a this is a crusade that you've been

00:49:21.360 fighting for over a year now isn't it i remember didn't you get into an argument on back when

00:49:25.440 unpopular opinions was still a thing didn't you get into an argument with nema on this or some

00:49:30.520 you know i've been in these arguments a lot yeah yeah i've been on saying this has been the drum

00:49:34.120 that you've been i've done segments when we were in the old lotus studio with callum i've done

00:49:37.860 segments on this yeah i've always thought about it's just but you're not allowed to just talk

00:49:41.160 common sense anymore you've got Roy Keane in there the the captain of the probably the greatest team

00:49:45.260 in Premier League history and then just a woman who's managed the Chelsea women's team it's absurd 0.95

00:49:49.640 it's absurd but you're not allowed to say you've got to say and she's and she sat there going oh 0.83

00:49:53.780 this is a win for immigration what yeah I know she I mean she might be relatively good in the

00:49:57.880 women's game she might be all right but what also it's absurd that they're on the punditry and also 1.00

00:50:02.380 why have you put her in the kitchen that's the other big thing that doesn't exist because that

00:50:05.760 was funny but um it was too good though um here's another one imagine anyone saying serena williams

00:50:12.180 can't provide an opinion on men's tennis because she's a woman but when it comes to football it's

00:50:15.020 okay to say that about emma hayes a vastly experienced hugely successful qualified ua

00:50:18.060 pro licensed coach yeah as i've just said it's a completely different uh game the the golfing

00:50:22.080 quality is so is so great um i'd love to see her manage in the prem this guy thinks she can be a 1.00

00:50:28.060 premier league manager there are no female premier league managers but that's how absurd you have to

00:50:32.420 push it you have to just say that she's amazing if you didn't have to say this you could just say

00:50:36.020 she was all right but the point you have to say she's the best thing ever so what's your objective

00:50:40.960 read on her then as as a person who doesn't watch football my objective is just that's me

00:50:45.300 she may be relatively good amongst the female pundits but it's a it's two things fundamentally

00:50:51.200 the as i say the the golf is so great it's a different sport entirely so it doesn't make 1.00

00:50:55.140 sense for for any women to comment they can present but they they shouldn't do punditry 0.94

00:50:58.940 your commentary because it's a different game it's like it's like they were good at squash or 0.99

00:51:02.580 something and they're coming in to me it's that different number two isn't it just a men's space

00:51:07.540 that we had like the last male space we had we're not allowed any male space ever that's just 0.91

00:51:12.080 misogyny is it misogyny we go and play five-a-side football there's no women in the team because it's

00:51:16.100 five-a-side football and that would be kind of weird but it's not really like it's not like

00:51:20.020 they're it's not like we had to talk about it and exclude them what's wrong with male spaces

00:51:24.220 what's wrong with female spaces now you have to have a certain quota of women in everything men

00:51:28.060 do i just don't i don't agree never have agreed whether it's a men's club we don't want to be in 0.79

00:51:34.580 every women's space do we well i remember when uh there's a woman so there's a thing yeah i mean

00:51:38.600 obviously i get i get access to the female changing rooms in marks and spencers but um

00:51:43.400 there's a thing set up for men for men's mental health where men would go to their sheds it was 0.98

00:51:47.640 some sort i can't remember the name of it like men in sheds or something yeah and then the women

00:51:50.800 forced their way in and then women were all like we have to be involved and it's like this is men

00:51:55.340 like helping their mental health

00:51:56.540 and like finding friends

00:51:57.440 I mean alright

00:51:57.920 it's pretty pathetic

00:51:58.820 but let them do it

00:51:59.940 you know what I mean

00:52:00.340 this is the stuff

00:52:00.900 you always tell men

00:52:02.080 they should be doing 0.99

00:52:02.920 and then they go and do it

00:52:03.900 and they go

00:52:04.260 we need to be involved

00:52:06.280 we must be involved

00:52:07.760 and then they took them to court

00:52:08.960 and managed it

00:52:09.820 forced their way

00:52:10.400 so then the men

00:52:11.000 have to go and find something else

00:52:12.480 like men in tree houses

00:52:13.540 or something

00:52:14.120 yeah basically 1.00

00:52:14.740 the women just wore them down 1.00

00:52:16.420 they didn't really want them there 1.00

00:52:17.200 because this is where they went

00:52:18.320 to like whittle

00:52:18.860 this is not going to help

00:52:19.940 men's mental health 0.90

00:52:20.980 right

00:52:21.280 and Carl had a brilliant segment

00:52:22.580 on it

00:52:22.780 in the end

00:52:23.260 the men sort of went

00:52:24.240 yeah okay

00:52:24.860 We can't really say no.

00:52:25.840 And they end up in a little separate room

00:52:27.300 within the shed thing.

00:52:28.560 Like they still end up in their own little room 1.00

00:52:30.180 and the women just took over the rest. 1.00

00:52:31.620 And it's just like, oh, the dismal tide

00:52:34.240 to quote No Country for Old Men.

00:52:37.200 All these cruel memes, which I disavow heavily.

00:52:39.960 Shopping lists, milk, eggs, bread, toilet rolls,

00:52:41.940 wine, chocolate, bath bombs.

00:52:43.400 I mean, that is just rank misogyny.

00:52:46.000 And if you're wondering what these are,

00:52:47.520 these are the hydration break.

00:52:49.500 Maybe we'll get onto that.

00:52:50.980 Here's another cruel meme.

00:52:52.660 This is cruel.

00:52:53.360 this is just misogyny

00:52:54.880 it's disgusting

00:52:55.520 and I strongly disavow it 1.00

00:52:56.920 get a woman to 1.00

00:52:59.000 commentate on men's football 1.00

00:52:59.780 and put her in a kitchen

00:53:00.680 you know that's essentially

00:53:01.380 what's happened

00:53:01.900 the Batman pitch

00:53:02.720 and obviously it's

00:53:03.320 I mean what is that

00:53:04.700 what was that set

00:53:05.920 supposed to be

00:53:06.520 because it looks

00:53:07.220 undeniably like a kitchen

00:53:08.320 I'm trying to think

00:53:08.980 what else it could be

00:53:10.080 the only explanation is

00:53:10.840 it's someone at ITV 1.00

00:53:11.840 hates like all wokeness

00:53:13.340 hates all of this sort of stuff 1.00

00:53:14.380 he's like right 1.00

00:53:14.940 we'll put the woman on 1.00

00:53:15.680 I'm building it as a kitchen 1.00

00:53:17.440 or do you think

00:53:18.040 they're just recycling

00:53:18.900 an old set from like

00:53:20.000 Good Morning Britain

00:53:20.700 you know when Giovanni

00:53:21.880 whatever his name is

00:53:22.700 comes on and cooks

00:53:23.340 a paella. That's incredibly likely, now you've said it. The only thing is that it's out though,

00:53:27.820 that can't be true because it's out in the US, because they've been bragging about how they're

00:53:30.540 there whereas the BBC aren't there. Like, we're actually here guys, we built a kitchen in America.

00:53:35.660 They could just be lying. But they are there, they're blatantly there. You think it's got all

00:53:40.140 green screen. I don't know, I don't watch this stuff. The problem is I've done a segment here

00:53:44.700 with two people who don't watch football and I'm stuck just saying loads of misogynist things on

00:53:47.740 my own, which is why this has backfired. You can keep digging. This has backfired horribly.

00:53:51.580 i love women um and respect respect emma hayes um i do respect her but i just shouldn't be there

00:53:57.380 i'm stealing a living and have no business in men's football that's cruel and what i really

00:54:01.880 hate there is it lacks the possessive apostrophe on men's i hate the way oh yeah people think they

00:54:06.220 can get away with that so they're booing the hydration break deploy the emergency mr brightside

00:54:11.820 i just wanted to put this in because no one wants hydration breaks anyway hydration breaks are

00:54:16.500 already woke and then she's talking on a blackboard in the kitchen during the hydration 0.66

00:54:20.400 Restration break just so that the players can go 0.69

00:54:22.360 and get a quick bottle of water.

00:54:24.420 Yeah, but what it is...

00:54:24.980 For adverts.

00:54:25.980 What it is, in some ways it's all a nonsense

00:54:28.460 because in 1994 you had Jack Charlton

00:54:30.320 throwing on those little capsules of water,

00:54:33.520 whatever they're called, little bags of water,

00:54:34.760 to the Irish players because it was incredibly hot.

00:54:37.160 Problem is with this, a lot of it is air-conditioned.

00:54:39.520 It's far cooler than my new-build flat,

00:54:41.720 which is 30 degrees.

00:54:43.260 Which is designed to retain heat.

00:54:45.600 Because of some policy, yeah.

00:54:47.400 A lot of these air-conditioned stadiums,

00:54:48.920 No different from actually cooler than probably a Premier League game in summer.

00:54:52.100 So everyone's going, why do you need the hydration breaks?

00:54:53.540 And people are calling them woke.

00:54:54.520 And people are actively booing them, which is why he's saying with the Truman Show memes,

00:54:58.860 put on an emergency, Mr. Brightside.

00:55:01.340 So Adam Brooks got in a lot of trouble. 1.00

00:55:03.080 Why the F do we have a woman coach from the women's game telling us about England men's football tactics? 1.00

00:55:08.760 Why? 1.00

00:55:10.280 I like the extra why.

00:55:13.380 Adam is fuming.

00:55:14.300 And then he just got attacked by whatever this is, the canary. 1.00

00:55:17.080 women's coach talks football tactics only for fragile men to launch sexist attacks that's all

00:55:22.900 of you um and there's some great quotes from this article for all the talk about standing up for

00:55:28.740 women the right wing seems far less comfortable where women step into the so-called men's game

00:55:32.700 of football the so-called men's game and this is this is nonsense like the the right wing love it

00:55:38.600 when georgia maloney steps in when margaret thatcher steps in like we've got no problem with

00:55:42.960 women so that's a good point uh the this vile post they mean adams comes as no surprise for

00:55:47.780 most women too many insecure right-wing men still see equality for women as a threat rather than

00:55:51.640 basic principle of life showing the patriarchy is alive and well in the uk i love the idea like

00:55:56.380 women having to be on every male football broadcast is proof of the patriarchy a man

00:56:02.260 a very efficient patriarch a man complaining about anything is proof of the patriarchy men 0.68

00:56:07.820 being able to be out in public and speaking at all is proof of the patriarchy to some people

00:56:12.260 true um the reality is simple women still face pay gaps myth shoulder more unpaid work at home 0.60

00:56:18.620 and encounter obstacles in their careers that men rarely have to think about equality isn't here yet

00:56:22.900 and posts like this show exactly why the fight continues the fight's continuing yeah the pay gap

00:56:28.780 is is a is an absolute myth uh if you uh remove women who've had children uh women who are

00:56:35.600 childless actually make more money than men also the unpaid work at home the reason they're doing

00:56:41.120 that is because the man is at work earning the money it should be the woman doing football 0.78

00:56:46.280 punditry the man should be at home changing nappies wouldn't wouldn't you be a stay at home

00:56:50.960 husband yeah it's so hypothetical i can't even entertain it and also if you're doing your

00:56:55.280 football punditry and getting paid for that and you're in a kitchen you can do your unpaid work

00:57:00.000 you can make dinner you can multitask yeah while you're famous for it i really sympathize with the

00:57:05.160 female football coach on the world cup on the tv you know i'm sure she's really struggling 1.00

00:57:11.020 to pay those bills 1.00

00:57:12.280 meet the cost of living.

00:57:13.200 I mean, it's kind of a weird thing

00:57:14.200 that I'm supposed to sympathise.

00:57:15.080 Listen, Nick,

00:57:15.840 you leave the multi-millionaire TV pundit.

00:57:19.000 Okay, sorry. 1.00

00:57:20.900 Thus, the progress of women's involvement

00:57:22.320 in the sport of football,

00:57:23.260 which has seen incredible success

00:57:24.680 for many women's teams

00:57:25.480 and a considerable number of trophies 1.00

00:57:26.620 to show for their skills,

00:57:27.600 has left some men feeling pretty enraged

00:57:29.080 that they dare comment on the men's game.

00:57:30.940 The rest of us recognise

00:57:31.740 that football is football, 1.00

00:57:32.680 the rules don't change when women play, 1.00

00:57:33.980 and neither do their tactics. 1.00

00:57:35.260 No matter how desperately

00:57:35.960 some men want to believe they're superior,

00:57:37.660 understanding the game

00:57:38.380 isn't determined by gender.

00:57:39.440 it's just false really because the game is completely different the pace of the game the

00:57:43.580 tactics are all so radically different the goalkeepers anyway um however this is exactly

00:57:48.580 the point women are still fighting for equality and Farage and Reform UK would erase even the 0.95

00:57:52.400 scant progress we've made if left unchallenged Farage is that one of Reform's campaign promises

00:57:58.920 to eliminate women's football it's all bonkers anyway Adam responded to it and just said the

00:58:04.380 canary has gone in on me even somehow calling me racist let's be honest now Emma Hayes has never

00:58:07.680 worked in men's football never managed or done tactics from a men's team this is the biggest

00:58:10.880 tournament in men's football she shouldn't be the tactical analyzer for men's football on itv

00:58:13.980 men's football is completely different in terms of pace physicality and quality as a viewer i

00:58:17.440 believe i'm with the majority on this it's not misogyny it's just calling out woke nonsense

00:58:20.920 that's so funny that's a meme isn't it should have been a high level men's coach manager most

00:58:24.600 agree i support the likes of laura woods etc in the game they're great at what they do but this

00:58:28.980 is ridiculous that's adam's view and of course here's the reality of women's oh my god just just

00:58:35.500 be safe it is the same i've not seen any of this actually so this has all been new for me 1.00

00:58:38.860 welcome back to the professional dishwashers league and we already have an attack by blue chick 1.00

00:58:47.040 and the keeper what the fuck ladies and gentlemen we have a 1v1 situation look at those sexy moves 1.00

00:58:57.280 never mind some high level skills by female panaldo we see a shot saved but the net is open 1.00

00:59:05.360 How do you miss that? 1.00

00:59:07.580 And they want equal pay. 0.99

00:59:09.880 Mainly in my side of society. 1.00

00:59:10.820 Some girl has the ball. 1.00

00:59:12.600 Ooh, saved by the crossbar. 1.00

00:59:14.380 And the defender saves it.

00:59:15.820 Only in this watchers league,

00:59:17.040 the defender can become the keeper.

00:59:19.460 Whitechick sends a pass.

00:59:21.600 What a genius goalkeeper.

00:59:22.740 The back pass was in the big top.

00:59:23.900 Look at this shit. 0.89

00:59:24.600 Men park the bus.

00:59:25.320 Do they just keep picking the ball up? 0.66

00:59:28.220 Well, yeah.

00:59:29.080 Well, the keeper picked it up

00:59:29.880 when it was a back pass,

00:59:30.580 so it's a free kick.

00:59:31.300 But in the previous one,

00:59:31.980 the defender just picked it up

00:59:33.140 for no reason.

00:59:34.240 Anyway.

00:59:35.240 Well, I don't know.

00:59:36.000 That looked pretty high quality to me.

00:59:37.840 You're right.

00:59:38.160 I disavow everything that was said in that segment.

00:59:40.640 It doesn't matter who, bye.

00:59:41.680 You always do this in every segment that you do.

00:59:44.180 Disavow the narrator of that segment.

00:59:47.540 Just, I mean, look, I was offered to switch to Makerfield this morning,

00:59:50.500 and then they said, no, Harry's doing it,

00:59:51.480 so I have to stick with my women's football thing. 0.97

00:59:54.540 We love women's football.

00:59:56.040 So, shall I read these, or do you read the Rumble Rants?

00:59:57.840 You can read the Rumble Rants if you want.

00:59:59.460 Let me scroll down for you.

01:00:00.680 Where do they start?

01:00:01.600 The ones that are highlighted.

01:00:03.060 I feel bad talking about Leo's hair.

01:00:04.520 i forgot leo had a hair transplant at least it looks better than jason cundy's hair transplant

01:00:08.040 right now yeah i got a code if anybody wants if anybody wants a referral just get in touch

01:00:12.920 i will sorry he will personally put your hair plugs in himself plugs anymore they take the

01:00:18.680 individual follicles oh you've got incredible technology even because i got a hair transplant

01:00:22.920 in 2019 and it was it was all right but i paid for it myself so it wasn't you know it wasn't so

01:00:27.160 great uh and the the increase in the technology the density of the grafts is like just incredible

01:00:33.320 I was worried when you said

01:00:34.160 you got it done in Turkey

01:00:35.040 but then you said

01:00:35.580 it was done by Germans 0.99

01:00:36.400 I was like oh I'm back on board 1.00

01:00:37.420 It's done by Turks 1.00

01:00:39.340 but they're 1.00

01:00:40.080 I'm out again 1.00

01:00:40.920 There's Turkish guys 1.00

01:00:42.540 sort of

01:00:43.080 there's German guys

01:00:44.660 sort of you know

01:00:45.100 overseeing the whole operation

01:00:46.380 I see

01:00:46.760 higher up

01:00:47.540 Leo went to a Turkish barber

01:00:49.060 is what I'm hearing

01:00:49.700 Yeah I went to a Turkish barber

01:00:51.980 I went to a Turkish barber

01:00:53.680 But remember when we were on GB News

01:00:55.720 and you weren't allowed to mention it

01:00:56.900 so you just had this

01:00:57.500 really weird looking head

01:00:58.540 Yeah

01:00:58.840 And the normies are so normie

01:01:00.900 they didn't know what it was

01:01:01.700 and they say

01:01:01.920 Leo what have you done to your hair?

01:01:03.320 it's a hair transplant you idiots but it's like they just thought you'd done something horrific

01:01:07.160 to your head yeah that's one of the weirdest comments because you know on gb news you wear

01:01:11.760 an earpiece so you can hear the director and you can hear whoever you're interviewing down the line

01:01:15.600 or whatever and there's like people because there's always conspiracy theorists and stuff

01:01:20.000 and they're like he's got a brain going in his he's got a wire going in his brains it's like no

01:01:24.700 that's just a wire extra brain you weren't allowed to mention it was an advert you weren't allowed

01:01:28.920 to mention which i thought was bizarre yeah but yeah you have an earpiece if you're hosting but

01:01:32.080 Not if you're taken off hosting for saying the Southwark protesters weren't far right. 0.69

01:01:35.860 Anyway, Bay State says, the black guys I purchased beat the black guys you purchased. 0.95

01:01:40.320 Well, yes, at club level, but not really purchased at international, but I see what you mean.

01:01:44.520 Sigil Stone, 17, the dishwasher in that kitchen needs replaced.

01:01:47.760 Looks like it's too old, screechy, and doesn't work.

01:01:50.220 Interesting point.

01:01:51.500 No comment.

01:01:52.860 One tall order, sweaty men in spandex, they don't wear spandex,

01:01:55.400 chasing each other's balls around, patting each other on the bum when they score.

01:01:59.120 sports that take two balls are much better like motor racing fair point in a way football has got 1.00

01:02:04.980 a bit soft that's a random name women are equal to men that's why i'm in favor of having mixed 0.76

01:02:09.220 fights in the ufc with the male fighters preferably wearing stained white tank tops chad starmer 0.83

01:02:14.520 that is like a policy that he would do just for the sake of it isn't it because they have

01:02:19.280 many tank tops beating up um sigil stone again was leo's hair transplanted from harry is that

01:02:25.840 happened i just i just took my extensions out good how come you ditched the legolas thing oh uh

01:02:32.800 i i feel bad it was a very very nice woman but i had a terrible terrible haircut after asking it

01:02:39.860 to be neatened up a bit right oh and i came out looking like a mix of a medieval peasant

01:02:44.960 and lord farquad and so i needed it resolving very say and another medieval peasant so i actually

01:02:54.200 thought you got it done to be respectful on the doorstep for restore well i wasn't campaigning

01:02:58.180 for restore i was just going around it was you should have got it it was i was like i need to

01:03:02.720 neaten myself up so that i can be on camera when i'm doing this uh like talking to the canvases

01:03:07.180 and stuff and then i was going to america afterwards as well so i thought i'll get a

01:03:10.400 nice neat trim and then they might as well have put a long colander around my head and just snipped

01:03:16.440 it yeah yeah shoulder length no no style or anything and i it was a untenable situation 0.85

01:03:22.320 You should have gone to Leo's Turkish barber.

01:03:24.040 Get a nice vape. 1.00

01:03:25.500 Get scalped.

01:03:26.480 Yeah.

01:03:27.300 Well, I'm going to be talking about the World Cup as well.

01:03:29.740 Oh, cool. 0.95

01:03:30.340 But instead of talking about feminism,

01:03:32.960 I'm going to be talking about diversity.

01:03:35.500 So the World Cup has kicked off.

01:03:38.040 And you'll notice the change in football teams over the years.

01:03:41.140 It's as if they're being run by Netflix. 0.73

01:03:43.300 All the white characters are being replaced by black characters. 0.76

01:03:47.360 So we can see the England team in 1996.

01:03:50.440 if I just scroll down here.

01:03:52.760 So it's 1996.

01:03:54.420 That's not too long ago.

01:03:55.460 That's 30 years.

01:03:57.920 30 years.

01:03:58.780 And that's the Britain I grew up in.

01:04:02.300 I was born in 96.

01:04:03.980 Yeah, and now...

01:04:05.160 That is a hell of a team as well.

01:04:06.220 You always look at our old teams and think,

01:04:07.180 why didn't we win?

01:04:08.440 Gascoigne, absolute genius.

01:04:09.940 Sheringham, Tony Adams, Stuart Pearce,

01:04:12.160 Southgate, Shearer, Seaman,

01:04:14.460 Anderton, McManaman, Platt, Neville.

01:04:16.920 That's an unbelievable team.

01:04:18.380 There certainly were a selection of names.

01:04:22.060 That was the year when things were still good.

01:04:23.860 Life was normal.

01:04:24.940 It was 1996.

01:04:26.920 I'd just been born.

01:04:28.600 Yes.

01:04:29.220 Well, that's disturbing.

01:04:30.080 Carbinger of destruction.

01:04:30.760 That's disturbing.

01:04:31.340 Let's not dwell on that aspect.

01:04:33.480 And then this is the England official squad for June 2026.

01:04:38.020 You can see there's quite a change,

01:04:39.720 which obviously I think is good

01:04:41.080 because I'm a good left-wing person.

01:04:44.800 This is wonderful.

01:04:46.000 But this, I mean,

01:04:46.620 It looks like the cover of a university prospectus. 0.99

01:04:48.520 What if he's wearing a do-rag? 1.00

01:04:50.940 Where? 0.91

01:04:51.560 Yes, on the bottom left.

01:04:53.060 Oh, yeah, he is.

01:04:54.000 He is.

01:04:54.740 Or actually, it's open at the top,

01:04:57.020 so is that technically a do-rag or is that a bandana?

01:05:02.760 So this is much more diverse.

01:05:05.300 Hardly any white people, which is great, obviously. 0.99

01:05:08.120 I mean, that's a good thing. 0.97

01:05:09.320 We're all agreed on that.

01:05:10.560 Yeah, so what happened to Andrew Lawrence?

01:05:13.760 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:15.040 But, I mean, it's quite a change.

01:05:16.620 is 30 years like we're told that replacement theory is a far right conspiracy theory that's

01:05:21.740 not based on any truth but i don't know i mean we're we're told that you know a 1.6 increase in

01:05:27.860 global global temperatures over 100 years is a big change i mean this looks like more than a 1.6

01:05:33.900 increase in uh in diversity i think i think what when people say oh great replacement that's a

01:05:39.600 conspiracy theory it's not actually happening what they think is is that literally each of these

01:05:45.180 they think that the theory is that each of these individual people has been put in place of these

01:05:51.600 people who are just plucked out of existence and shot into space yeah they literally replaced like

01:05:56.780 you would replace a pair of shoes you just throw them away and you replace them yeah i mean i guess

01:06:01.740 they're trying to do that in in some place like canada they've killed a hundred thousand people

01:06:06.340 with their medically assisted dying and well yeah something like 98 96 or 98 white so you know and 0.94

01:06:14.220 they'll say the old people tend to be white and it's like well how convenient for you but that 0.67

01:06:18.780 that is i guess that could be an example of uh you know people literally being you know the 0.92

01:06:23.040 equivalent of being shot into space look at the adverts it's all white people it's aimed at white

01:06:27.060 people you know there's adverts in canada yeah have you thought about dying they're not like that

01:06:30.640 they're on like a cliff they're all on a beach together and it's like hopeful music and it's

01:06:34.780 like death do you ever play uh like any of the those old peter molyneux games like black and white

01:06:39.760 where you just play as a giant you're looking after a village and you're a gigantic hand in

01:06:44.080 the sky and you can just pick people up and throw them away canada is basically doing the equivalent 0.74

01:06:48.620 of that where they just go like nope gone put in brown person so yeah so let's look at some of the

01:06:55.460 other teams in the world cup and see if they match their sort of native uh native ethnicity or if

01:07:02.140 they've been diversified too so this is the japanese football team and they all look quite

01:07:08.640 japanese and japanese fans some of them look very japanese yes some of them look like a

01:07:13.920 you know if you drew them you'd get in trouble but yeah definitely definitely still i'd say

01:07:20.260 ethnically a japanese team a japanese team and the japanese fans have also been praised for

01:07:26.940 cleaning up the stadium at the end of the games uh and it's amazing must be socio-economic factors

01:07:33.920 well it's amazing they've got this this sort of high trust society that looks after itself without

01:07:38.320 being enriched and strengthened by diversity i mean imagine how much better japanese society

01:07:43.600 would be you know this high trust society where they pick up each other's litter that would that

01:07:47.980 would be improved if they if they had more diversity they're falling behind these look

01:07:51.620 like kind of chad japanese like they look like they're on human growth hormone look at those top

01:07:54.980 two this guy and this guy don't they look like they've got what you mean the top top left um

01:08:01.480 and second from top yeah yeah he's got an insane chad joe i bet they're on some secret new

01:08:08.260 technology like they've got the nano machines and when all the it's too old for you but all the

01:08:14.160 runners had braces because they were on massive amounts of human growth on like carl lewis oh

01:08:17.980 what so their heads would yeah yeah yeah and the east german the the communist east yeah all the

01:08:22.740 women became men all the women became men and they and they didn't even know it they were doing it

01:08:26.460 to like 12 year old girls and stuff the coaches were giving them these these steroids and they 0.84

01:08:31.200 were they were you know getting absolutely hulked out and and like developing deep voices and big

01:08:36.680 jaws and stuff and the girls didn't even know and it wrecked some of them yeah yeah there's always 0.53

01:08:40.160 there was one year where china just won everything like the first three sprinters beating like all 0.99

01:08:43.600 the africans it was like it's when you get a new drug that hasn't yet been discovered yeah yeah 0.80

01:08:48.220 you get the new drug they've got some sort of face drug here i i think it's metal gear solid

01:08:53.520 nano machines son made it makes sense then this is the uzbekistan team and they all look quite

01:09:00.060 uzbek to me is this what uzbeks are supposed to look like well what did you uzbek them to look

01:09:04.400 like so this i was paying the big bucks this guy uh needs to go to turkish barbers and get the

01:09:13.840 the middle bit he's got the noel gallagher but imagine that that's an advantage on the field

01:09:18.760 you come up against that in the box that comes at you with a header you're like

01:09:22.060 uh yeah uzbekistan i'm not totally sure where it is but it can't be far from like russia

01:09:29.340 Kazakhstan

01:09:29.920 yeah it's in the

01:09:30.860 Caucasus

01:09:31.400 it's in the 0.98

01:09:31.700 Caucasus

01:09:31.840 for instance

01:09:32.660 this guy here

01:09:33.740 he just looks

01:09:34.660 like a white guy

01:09:35.320 frankly

01:09:35.720 yeah he looks

01:09:36.420 like you know

01:09:37.160 what's his name

01:09:37.680 he's the diversity 0.79

01:09:38.260 he's infiltrated 0.97

01:09:39.700 he looks like

01:09:40.700 the guy

01:09:41.000 Kadarov

01:09:42.280 the great 0.98

01:09:42.900 Chechen

01:09:43.280 replacement 0.96

01:09:43.780 that guy

01:09:44.280 at the beginning

01:09:46.300 which they're

01:09:47.360 getting in Russia

01:09:48.060 to be honest

01:09:49.340 they're rapidly 0.96

01:09:50.100 Islamifying 0.99

01:09:50.880 and this side 1.00

01:09:51.940 is the Japanese

01:09:53.120 team again

01:09:53.620 maybe like

01:09:54.100 the top two

01:09:55.440 they are sort of

01:09:56.040 mixed aren't they

01:09:56.480 there's at least

01:09:56.960 two or three

01:09:58.140 those parts

01:09:59.040 of the those parts of like the northern middle east you could say are all very mixed with uh

01:10:06.440 eurasians and russians and slavs yeah your step asians this guy three in on this i looks like

01:10:12.040 harry mcguire just nipped into this team because he couldn't get in the england team

01:10:14.980 like he could be an english center back yeah and moving on we've got uh france france

01:10:21.840 oh wow this uh so this this is approaching maximum diversity uh maximum diversity is when there's no

01:10:30.380 white people um and this is this is interesting so france has been pretty enriched uh but what's

01:10:37.120 interesting is i'm not seeing many north africans algerians moroccans uh people like that and i'm

01:10:42.700 not sure if that's because uh they're not involved in football culture they're not as good at

01:10:48.640 football or uh a lot of moroccans apparently have gone back to to play for the moroccan national

01:10:55.020 team oh wow so a lot of french moroccans have done that um but yeah only only one you know

01:11:02.420 sort of uh classic ajin core he looks to be honest he looks look at where his head looks he 0.84

01:11:07.040 looks photoshopped in just to sit for their diversity quota yeah i mean in the brochure 0.95

01:11:11.760 no one can attack them yeah it's obviously there obviously not real the token white

01:11:17.100 um yeah well you get you go there and it's like a cardboard cutout they stick by the bench

01:11:22.660 this guy here looks like a white version of yakub from what whatever a white version you mean

01:11:30.900 you mean newish farrakhan's guy big the big brain oh yeah what do you mean a white version of yakub 0.73

01:11:36.000 white do you mean no yeah yakub is the world's foremost black genius he's a he's the inventor

01:11:41.740 He's the father to us all, Leo.

01:11:44.140 That's son of Jakob, then.

01:11:46.660 Yeah, Jakob. 0.93

01:11:47.400 Louis Farrakhan's guy that invented white people. 0.94

01:11:48.540 You probably looked like a son of Jakob when you just had your fair transport. 0.94

01:11:53.460 I met Louis Farrakhan's son when I was working as a door-to-door salesman.

01:11:58.400 And he said he was going to buy a picture, but he didn't.

01:12:00.860 That sounds like something in The Usual Suspects that Kevin Spacey would make up.

01:12:05.020 He met Louis Farrakhan's and then it's just on the wall, Farrakhan.

01:12:07.720 and this is qatar so this is an interesting mix you know i think i think qatar have used some of

01:12:16.020 their money they had some money left over from uh from funding radical islam in the west and

01:12:21.340 funding islamism in london's universities so they've bought some football players from countries

01:12:27.280 that aren't qatar including this one this one white guy who you've always got to have one he's 0.97

01:12:32.300 just there to avoid tax he's one of those expats that bores you about how much better it is well 0.67

01:12:36.980 with the look on his face he looks like you know when like one white guy runs away to join isis

01:12:41.780 and you see the the picture um he's he's got that sort of uh not ginger enough but otherwise that's 0.57

01:12:47.060 really not the kind of um makeup i was expecting from qatar yeah so they've they've obviously used

01:12:53.120 some money to to buy in players and giving them citizenship there's various ways countries can

01:12:58.240 can do this as you get you get diaspora players uh so morocco for example uh people whose whose

01:13:05.260 parents move to france they can come back and play for morocco you see that with the irish team as

01:13:09.780 well you see you know english guys playing for ireland because they've got a granddad who's

01:13:13.880 irish um and there's also naturalization if you give people citizenship then they can come and

01:13:19.380 play for your for your team so i think you know qatar might have done that to me the shame is 0.92

01:13:24.020 not anything racist that we're getting rid of diversity what's wrong with countries all being

01:13:28.480 different and all meeting in the world cup and that's what's interesting about it what's the

01:13:32.580 point of yeah what's the point of national teams when because of mass migration every national

01:13:37.880 team is some variation of nigerians and sub-saharans yeah all facing against one another

01:13:43.040 because you're not actually you're not actually seeing how the nations stack up against one

01:13:47.160 another are you well yeah because because when you're supporting your sort of national team

01:13:50.920 it's different to a local club team because you know a local club team i don't think it matters

01:13:55.060 so much you know the the people come from that town you know better though wouldn't it it would

01:13:58.920 be better yeah yeah and i think it is you know like it gives some sort of body to the club and

01:14:04.760 it's less like i think in america you get teams being bought by other towns and moving to to

01:14:09.900 completely different cities which i don't think really happens here i think it happened with

01:14:12.780 was it wimbledon yeah mk duns yeah yeah yeah so they they moved to milton keen's uh but you know

01:14:18.560 it tends not it's unusual if it happens here but it's more common in america but at the national

01:14:22.800 level i think you know you've got to like a nation is about more than just who's got a passport or

01:14:28.860 a bit of paper saying they're they're british it's about you know shared culture heritage

01:14:33.000 ancestry and all the rest of it it's like that morrissey quote it's like you know they call it

01:14:36.200 diversity but it's not diverse at all that's that's the thing that's what's sad about it but

01:14:39.660 by the way people always say well don't you want to win these are the best players blah blah it's

01:14:42.900 like i don't know i mean it's like even man united i'd rather they were just from manchester i'd

01:14:47.120 rather england was from england and be like oh you don't you want to win well not at all costs

01:14:51.860 i'd rather test the actual capabilities of the mancunian people or the english people

01:14:58.400 and then we've got a baseline to go from how much we need to improve if we don't win it first you

01:15:03.280 know yeah you're like it's that classic meme of the like uh i'm sorry jimmy but this little

01:15:09.360 russian boy here is going to produce so much more gdp for the family so you know i'm going to have

01:15:14.000 to adopt him it's also a slight problem as well for the some of the people on that side is that

01:15:17.540 we won in 1966 were obviously very different demographics and most of them had to go back

01:15:21.860 to their mining job on a monday so it's a different time they weren't hydration breaks yeah they're

01:15:25.860 having a break from their day job you know it's completely different and hydration last time we

01:15:29.280 won hydration break was probably a pint of lager uh this is spain's official squad um i mean this

01:15:36.020 just makes sense with spain doesn't it yeah but this is the first lineup that doesn't look like

01:15:40.960 a football team but looks like a poster for an open mic comedy night i was thinking that this

01:15:44.780 Top right and one in looks like a boy band, doesn't it?

01:15:47.260 Yeah, look at this one. 1.00

01:15:48.700 This one looks like a drag queen with no wig on. 1.00

01:15:52.780 Yeah, a little bit, actually. 1.00

01:15:53.940 Like RuPaul. 0.58

01:15:55.760 We've got the Dr. Congo, which is what Umbongo's called now.

01:16:00.920 Dr. Congo is a mash-up of Dr. Pepper and Umbongo. 0.97

01:16:06.180 Their official squad. 0.98

01:16:07.540 And this, interestingly, you'd think the Democratic Republic of the Congo

01:16:12.420 would be all Congolese.

01:16:14.780 It's actually the team with the most foreign-born players.

01:16:20.340 So 85% of the Congo's team is foreign-born. 0.95

01:16:24.420 I was not expecting somebody so light-skinned

01:16:28.220 to be in the Congo team. 1.00

01:16:30.140 This is why you tell me that he's the only native.

01:16:32.040 They used to have Norwegian mercenaries in Congo, didn't they?

01:16:34.620 Some of these are mercenaries, I think.

01:16:36.080 Well, I mean, the Belgians notoriously ran the Congo 0.53

01:16:40.260 for a long while. 1.00

01:16:41.440 Well, this is the first team I've seen

01:16:44.260 where the diversity is actually a black country 0.70

01:16:47.480 being enriched with lighter-colored people joining. 0.89

01:16:53.880 That's the first time I've seen diversity

01:16:55.880 working in that direction.

01:16:58.320 This is the Portugal official squad.

01:17:02.020 I've just put this because he's got an amazing barnet.

01:17:05.080 So I don't know if he's been to Turkey.

01:17:06.720 Maybe he spends the whole year in Turkey

01:17:08.680 getting his barnet put in.

01:17:10.700 I thought they'd be more diversified

01:17:12.260 because people from South America go to Portugal.

01:17:16.400 This is Haiti, and they look pretty Haitian.

01:17:22.100 I think Haiti is one of the few countries

01:17:25.260 where white people are actually officially banned by legislation. 0.99

01:17:29.100 I think Liberia is another one. 0.97

01:17:31.120 Because otherwise we would just be itching to get there.

01:17:33.480 Yeah, well, I say we. 1.00

01:17:36.340 The French and Europeans used to run Haiti,

01:17:40.720 and there was quite an acrimonious falling out.

01:17:43.120 Really? I've not heard of this.

01:17:45.240 Slaughtered a lot of white people.

01:17:47.060 And for some reason, without having... 0.96

01:17:49.540 I mean, I don't know why, because, you know, 0.92

01:17:51.280 it's not like white people are better at running bureaucracies 0.50

01:17:54.560 or governments or anything.

01:17:55.520 But, you know, since then, Haiti's struggled to fulfil its potential.

01:18:00.080 They actually lost to Scotland in the World Cup

01:18:03.340 as an example of how badly they're doing. 0.99

01:18:07.340 This is the Jordanian team.

01:18:09.000 This actually looks pretty Jordanian.

01:18:10.720 so i don't think they've done the qatar thing of buying players in they look like nice guys as

01:18:17.740 well quite happy yeah yeah yeah that one uh bottom row second from left he looks very happy

01:18:23.600 and in fact the top left guy as well just happy to be there they all look like they call you my

01:18:28.880 friend yeah or boss man yeah or boss man brother yeah and this is the australian team so only one

01:18:37.540 mullet which is disappointing and well you can never tell looking straight from the front though 0.92

01:18:43.080 can you yeah oh actually yeah good point because this guy this guy here second from the left he

01:18:48.160 could have a mullet in fact they could all have mullet i like the chad australian mustache you

01:18:51.880 see as well i've got a couple of yeah two to three of them there and that's what every australian i've

01:18:56.800 run into like just out and about in england has always had the mullet mustache combo yeah it's

01:19:02.800 like it's state mandated over there yeah yeah and also it sort of became cool it became you know

01:19:07.080 the sort of quirky hipster thing uh this is the norwegian team and this is how they turn up at

01:19:12.660 the stadium as well so i see an odd man out here they look quite norwegian um they look more

01:19:19.140 norwegian than the actual uh norwegian equivalent of the bbc when it did a documentary about early

01:19:24.720 norwegians so yeah they're quite norwegian obviously there's you know there's a bit of

01:19:30.060 enrichment going on it's good that they're tapping into their heritage isn't it and it's quite 0.86

01:19:33.760 intimidating for the opposition as well to kind of come in like you're in the wwe just like full

01:19:38.060 viking gear yeah yeah they just start and they've got holland who is one of the best strikers in the

01:19:42.040 world and he's massive so you wouldn't fancy him coming at you with that sword yeah yeah and like

01:19:46.260 beheading a linesman okay now you might start getting me interested in this all starts happening

01:19:51.860 well what what team do you think this is scotland that's right it's scotland so scotland

01:19:57.400 has got uh has got pretty much the same scottish people as you'd see fighting at the battle of

01:20:04.720 culloden see the problem for scotland is it's too poor to attract that much divers

01:20:09.040 we've got we've i mean there's there's it's getting rapidly enriched under the smp uh you

01:20:16.120 know you've got people like humza humza yusuf um but i don't know if those people are so keen on

01:20:21.060 playing football you know you're not getting the you're not getting the african um african

01:20:26.020 enrichment this guy's not got enough tattoos on his neck for my taste yeah look at that so i'm 0.90

01:20:31.760 gonna have to dock them a point for for not having any gingers though but apart from that

01:20:35.400 mctomney's kind of gingerish doesn't look it in that photo actually yeah so uh interesting i was

01:20:40.520 wrong about uh the democratic republic of the congo having um having the most players born

01:20:46.840 abroad that was actually curacao but it's like a tiny island nation the japanese director of seven

01:20:51.600 samurai. So 96% of Curacao's players were born abroad, but it's, you know, it's tiny. 85% of

01:21:00.520 the Congos and 73% of Morocco's. So I think that's because Morocco is recruiting football players

01:21:06.720 from Europe to play in its team. So you can see migration has become an ingredient of World Cup

01:21:11.700 success. You can see the increase in the share of foreign born players by World Cup increasing

01:21:17.920 over time. And bear in mind, this is just born abroad. This isn't including second and third

01:21:23.360 and fourth generation migrants. But there's obviously a steady increase that's accelerated

01:21:29.380 over the last few years. But what's interesting is if you look at the England team, the French

01:21:35.320 team, the French team in that picture, I don't know if they've got other players that weren't

01:21:40.620 in that picture, but there's only one white guy. And we're told DEI, diversity, equity and inclusion

01:21:47.340 is so important because everybody has to be represented

01:21:50.040 and you have to have equal representation

01:21:51.460 and it's got to absolutely match.

01:21:53.340 And it's like, actually, I asked a lefty, mate,

01:21:55.640 so why don't we have that in football?

01:21:57.720 Why isn't France forced to have, you know, 0.73

01:21:59.720 the right ratio of white people? 0.98

01:22:01.960 Why isn't it forced to have, you know, 0.98

01:22:03.740 why isn't there an ultra-Orthodox Jew

01:22:05.540 running along playing in his full authentic garb and stuff? 0.90

01:22:10.200 Why don't they have a...

01:22:10.600 I would pay to see that. 1.00

01:22:11.920 Why don't they have a fat Papua New Guinean guy? 1.00

01:22:14.460 You know, this would obviously improve. 1.00

01:22:16.000 why isn't there

01:22:17.040 why aren't there 1.00

01:22:17.460 black lesbians 1.00

01:22:18.320 playing for the French 0.99

01:22:19.240 you know

01:22:19.700 men's team or whatever

01:22:20.540 give it time

01:22:21.520 and he said

01:22:23.180 well that's ridiculous

01:22:23.840 because then you wouldn't

01:22:24.440 be getting the best players

01:22:25.460 you'd be choosing

01:22:26.180 according to

01:22:26.760 and it's like

01:22:27.040 yeah what do you think

01:22:27.660 DEI does in every

01:22:29.000 other organisation

01:22:29.980 all the time

01:22:30.820 it's not selecting

01:22:32.020 based on meritocracy

01:22:33.160 so you know

01:22:34.080 how come we're just

01:22:34.740 allowed meritocracy

01:22:35.700 raw meritocracy

01:22:37.060 in elite sport

01:22:38.940 what is the final frontier

01:22:40.020 of the meritocratic

01:22:41.360 absolute elite mindset

01:22:42.480 it's like the best

01:22:43.020 the best the best

01:22:43.480 like we'll bring you in

01:22:44.440 at 11 years old

01:22:45.120 you're not good enough

01:22:45.600 for 14 get out yeah it'll work down the mind it's the most brutal victorian system it's about

01:22:50.960 absolute achievement it's fascinating it exists somehow and that's why it has all this woke

01:22:54.600 rubbish thrown in there yeah because it exists it's such actually it's so right wing at core it's

01:22:59.060 about a brutal battle it's a darwinian battle for survival and that's a great one of these days

01:23:03.680 you'll get that point to stick with the general public oh yeah it's so weird isn't it it doesn't

01:23:08.820 they don't cognitive dissonance yeah is that the segment that's the segment should we read the

01:23:13.320 Yeah, and then we'll go through the video comments as well.

01:23:16.060 So Canada's team, that's a random name.

01:23:18.460 Canada's team beat Qatar 6-0 last night.

01:23:20.740 Match took place in Vancouver.

01:23:22.080 I used to live in Vancouver.

01:23:22.980 It was a nice place.

01:23:23.660 Canadian fans were a bunch of Indians with red turbans.

01:23:26.640 Our team is full of black guys

01:23:28.560 who started fighting the Qatari players.

01:23:31.340 Amazing.

01:23:33.260 That's an amazing picture you've just painted for us. 0.99

01:23:36.300 Based Ape says,

01:23:37.340 I want to build a website that tracks the true results of the World Cup. 0.98

01:23:39.980 So if a Nigerian scores a goal for England, 0.99

01:23:41.580 that's one point to Nigeria. 0.79

01:23:42.600 and we can figure out who actually won the World Cup.

01:23:45.040 That's a great idea.

01:23:45.800 It would be also really interesting to do for the Olympics

01:23:48.440 because I know, you know,

01:23:49.920 black people are overrepresented in things like sprinting

01:23:53.040 and white guys are overrepresented in things like, 0.55

01:23:56.400 you know, sitting on a horse that's doing the tippy toes.

01:23:58.800 Strongman stuff as well.

01:24:00.200 Right.

01:24:01.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:24:01.860 Particularly Icelandics. 0.98

01:24:03.360 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:03.860 And yachting as well.

01:24:05.020 Yachting as well. 0.71

01:24:05.900 You get a lot of white people

01:24:07.120 because you're essentially balanced. 0.52

01:24:08.840 I can't believe yachting didn't take off in the Sahara.

01:24:11.680 Maybe now they're all used to driving small boats

01:24:14.660 They'll be better

01:24:16.200 Fallen Firebird says 1.00

01:24:17.840 Speaking of the step Asian Middle Eastern types 1.00

01:24:20.280 They make the most psychopathic terrorists 1.00

01:24:21.820 You think Iraqis or Syrians are bad? 1.00

01:24:23.860 You've never seen a Turkmenistani jihadi before 1.00

01:24:26.080 They're deranged 1.00

01:24:26.740 That school teacher who was beheaded in France 1.00

01:24:28.840 I think that was actually a Chechen 0.99

01:24:30.780 Oh really?

01:24:33.060 That's a random name

01:24:33.980 All I see are fellow descendants of Alfred the Great

01:24:36.720 Mashallah

01:24:37.300 Danny Krug is in chat

01:24:40.060 Okigdor says

01:24:43.200 wonder if the clubs

01:24:43.980 are saving money

01:24:44.760 like with the rest 0.98

01:24:45.780 of the diversity importation

01:24:47.200 yeah that'd be

01:24:48.020 that'd be interesting 1.00

01:24:48.980 the Habsification 0.93

01:24:51.280 Leo that's an old

01:24:52.100 Japanese squad photo

01:24:53.100 from about 10 years ago

01:24:54.260 they have added diversity

01:24:55.240 now with their goalkeeper

01:24:56.320 Zion Suzuki

01:24:57.920 he's called Suzuki

01:24:59.000 he's half black American

01:25:01.280 and half Japanese

01:25:02.380 apparently

01:25:03.040 ah interesting

01:25:04.060 he's interesting

01:25:05.220 but yeah

01:25:05.560 obviously

01:25:06.240 I just pulled these photos

01:25:07.720 out of my ass

01:25:08.260 so they might not be accurate 0.71

01:25:09.700 i just believe everything i see on the internet um but also could you would you be able to tell

01:25:13.780 the difference between the japanese squad from 10 years ago and the japanese squad from now i'm not

01:25:18.220 you know apparently one of them yeah apparently one of them yeah uh that's a random name says

01:25:25.940 poor footballers are just as capable as white footballers joe the irishman

01:25:29.820 uh that's a random name again says in the iran versus israel football match they'll be kicking 0.57

01:25:38.480 pagers at each other not knowing when when one will explode yeah and of course that would add

01:25:42.860 some tension to the game and sport has been a focal point for terrorism before like the munich

01:25:47.240 olympics true

01:25:48.700 it's nice

01:26:08.480 those just listening we're just being shown a selection of videos and pictures from what i

01:26:19.060 can only describe as coastal and deep england lovely stuff that great yarmouth so there's

01:26:28.100 something i noted about that case where the racist white guy in england uh raped an indian woman and

01:26:34.160 naturally got a life sentence for it fair enough but when you look at like the cases with the

01:26:39.640 grooming gangs like there's like oh they commit a similar crime it's like oh no they did not commit

01:26:44.320 a similar crime because they didn't just commit one rape they could each one of those guys has

01:26:48.660 probably committed dozens of rapes combined with dozens of other crimes alongside them

01:26:53.560 and yet somehow they're getting getting seven year sentences and i think people need to emphasize

01:26:58.460 that more and i don't see them doing that yeah it's getting the whole community involved and

01:27:03.360 as has been pointed out in a number of the sort of like reviews and um uh reviews and inquiries

01:27:08.440 that have been done it's always connected to like trafficking as well whether that be human

01:27:12.760 trafficking drug trafficking there's always a connection with that so these these people are

01:27:16.640 career criminals they're communal uh co-conspirators they just don't need to be in this country

01:27:22.460 all right after a week of heavy stuff you know all this chaos and so whatnot i think it's time

01:27:31.740 for a bit of a chill break you know get some cats in here you know really get to cool off here here's 0.81

01:27:38.880 a where charlotte moment you know after her haircut she's a bit camera shy but oh she's so

01:27:45.680 lovey oh so yeah peter prower says have a good weekend everyone well thank you very much

01:27:54.060 sports fans just drunk the place dry and all they had was like bud light if your favorite

01:28:01.780 beer is missing from a tap we've never seen anything like it there's a decent chance scotland

01:28:06.760 had something to do with it sam adams downtown ran out of their signature boston lager over the

01:28:12.260 weekend and needed an emergency delivery to keep up with world cup fans and they're not the only

01:28:17.720 ones running dry pretty much everything we ran out of every 10 inch being number one white bull

01:28:21.940 tavern may have run out of scotland's iconic tenants beer but that didn't stop the party

01:28:27.360 man imagine leaving scotland and still drinking tenants you know i mean yeah i love when americans

01:28:33.260 think they understand drinking like i can go down the bar and have myself five halves of

01:28:37.900 a week lager you know they just have no idea what scottish drinking is spending time we didn't get

01:28:43.700 enough beer in for these people of course you didn't spending time with americans the other

01:28:47.180 week they were all like yeah whenever we meet englishmen or brits in general we're reminded you

01:28:52.140 you guys you guys can put her down yeah i'll go through a couple of of the comments and then

01:29:00.440 we'll call it before lads hour michael drybelbus disappointed that restore didn't win while at the

01:29:06.140 same time recognizing that uh for a brand spanking new party third place in seven percent is a

01:29:10.620 powerful showing for the upstart and labor's victory demonstrates that even if all of restore

01:29:15.080 voters had voted reform and lib dems conservatives greens as well reform would still have lost

01:29:21.940 yes uh starmer's fiery but mostly peaceful backdoor oh saucy uh good to see the return

01:29:28.460 of the thin white duke for another episode that's right i'll be here again next week thank you

01:29:33.100 derek power i understand the disappointment but don't be discouraged i think an important

01:29:37.200 takeaway for going forward is to sell restore through the candidate and not just solely through

01:29:41.440 one man. Whoever the candidate is in whatever constituency should be about the constituency

01:29:46.440 as much as the ideas or platform. Excelsior, lads. We've got Stan Lee in the comments. And I'm also

01:29:52.480 just going to say, anybody who wants to call me the thin white duke, I'm not going to be offended

01:29:55.640 or insulted by being compared with the best Bowie, the most based Bowie era, frankly. So keep sending

01:30:02.700 those in, please. Lars, I think Starmer hate scare is strong. They see this is the last chance to

01:30:07.420 stave Labour. It's also possible that the last minute scare articles about the far right got

01:30:11.920 dormant Labour voters out who normally wouldn't come out to vote in a safe seat. Perhaps, I think

01:30:19.540 Burnham cinched it from the beginning, to be honest. He's such a popular figure up north.

01:30:24.700 Starmer's back door again. I'm almost certain they deliberately used the kitchen set to drum

01:30:28.680 up controversy to get attention for their coverage. They could also be fishing for reasons to cry

01:30:34.000 sexism in order to shift the conversation back to 2016 culture war narratives because they didn't

01:30:39.480 like how the overton window has shifted to mass deportations i'm almost certain that's not true

01:30:44.640 about the kitchen there's no chance they deliberately put it in the kitchen but great name 1.00

01:30:48.480 derrick girls should stick to girl sports such as hot oil wrestling foxy boxing and such and such 1.00

01:30:54.720 the vince mcmahon and harvey weinstein approach to dive to feminism um george hap women being 1.00

01:31:01.840 forced in men's sports is why i don't care when men put on a dress and do the same sweet payback

01:31:06.700 and uh henry ashman uh the world cup is definitely the diaspora world cup someone playing for sweden

01:31:12.680 refused to celebrate after scoring against tunisia because his dad's tunisian that's great that's

01:31:18.560 amazing uh arizona desert rat of um and scottish fan oz and scottish fans keep showing that it's 0.52

01:31:25.880 possible to get drunk off your ass while celebrating a win without destroying the city that's right 0.51

01:31:31.060 with very polite drunks. And God's own prototype, Leo's percent change concern comparison between

01:31:36.780 diversity and climate change is actually a great attack frame. We'll definitely use it.

01:31:40.740 There's also another thing linked to climate change. So when somebody moves from somewhere

01:31:44.800 like the Congo to the UK, their carbon footprint increases massively. It used to be 250 times

01:31:51.560 because you start living a Western lifestyle with electricity and you're not burning cow dung to

01:31:56.620 cook your pot noodle and stuff. So you start using a lot more energy. I think it's now only

01:32:02.540 about 100 times, but that's still a huge increase in carbon emissions. So all these people like

01:32:08.320 Greta Thunberg, she's suddenly stopped talking about climate change. She's saying we need to

01:32:12.080 have mass immigration, which is completely opposite to what she was saying before is

01:32:16.440 vastly increasing carbon emissions. So it was never about carbon emissions. It was always just

01:32:22.440 about destabilizing the West, weakening the West to implement some sort of crappy communism.

01:32:28.340 The revolution is always the cause with these people. And with that, that's all we've got time

01:32:33.700 for right now. Join us again in about half an hour if you subscribe to the website so that you can

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 19, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1444

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