The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1446

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to podcast of the lotus eaters it is episode 1446 it is the uh tuesday 23rd of

00:00:08.040 june year of our lord 2026 it is 43 degrees in the shade in swindon i have broken out the ralph

00:00:14.580 lorenz summer range and i am sitting on the largest ice block that amazon can provide

00:00:18.400 i'm joined by carl hello uh special guest mr angloid hello who you can find on the socials

00:00:25.380 with angloid and um was it tiktok and instagram and yeah if you put angloid in you can see it all

00:00:31.920 yeah excellent and also lucy hello good to be here yes where can we find you apart from here

00:00:39.540 just on x actually i haven't yet expanded out onto facebook or instagram despite actually the

00:00:45.900 remigration summit that was the most frequent question they said are you on instagram and i

00:00:49.380 said no they were quite disappointed what's going on with instagram just a quick thing

00:00:53.360 I've got an Instagram account, but I never use it.

00:00:55.600 I think it's pictures or something, social media.

00:00:57.760 Yeah, but is it going right wing?

00:00:59.500 It's gone from no freedom of speech to complete freedom of speech.

00:01:02.920 Oh, right, like Twitter.

00:01:04.120 It's even wilder than Twitter.

00:01:05.740 Right, okay, I might start using it.

00:01:07.020 Interesting, interesting.

00:01:08.340 Right, today we are going to be talking about the fond farewell to the Stammerfuhrer.

00:01:15.900 He's only been gone a day and the trains are disappointing already.

00:01:18.540 um we've got um oh yes the the depth of labor talent uh we'll be taking you through that

00:01:24.900 very impressive uh segment there and uh we're going to be talking about um the the attempts

00:01:30.420 of the legacy media to sort of smear and defame people do you like do you guys know anything about

00:01:36.220 that oh it never happened to me right yeah i happen to know so okay case yeah right all right

00:01:42.820 okay we we might have some experience on the panel about that one uh so with that let's hear

00:01:47.040 about the fewer yes i mean it's well known that we're a pro starmer podcast we've been pro starmer

00:01:53.060 for quite a while now i've been enjoying uh following uh the dear leader in his starmer

00:01:57.800 bunker throughout all of the ups and downs of his premiership and i'm actually weirdly sad

00:02:04.400 that he's actually resigned i was quite enjoying keir starmer holding on and stamping down all of

00:02:11.780 the competition in the labor party because i thought i had contempt for the labor party until

00:02:16.780 keir starmer came out and showed us what real contempt was like and so i found myself warming

00:02:21.600 to him and he's got this kind of he he's he's way more memetic than i think we gave him credit for

00:02:26.860 and so like andy burnham is actually kind of boring he's kind of a schlubby middle-aged guy

00:02:32.640 he's kind of friendly he's not the evil villain in the the dark tower i'll give it a few months

00:02:39.860 no i don't i don't think andy burnham is that way but starmer actually is so starmer actually

00:02:44.160 steps into the role of the actual villain really really well and i have a funny feeling we're going

00:02:48.980 to be like you know the the heroes after they've overthrown the villains are who we fighting now

00:02:53.340 you know what i i'm worried we're going to lose our purpose in life and so i thought we'd just

00:02:58.520 look back at some of the fond memories uh some of the good things that uh starmer has done and

00:03:02.820 weirdly right and i know this is going to sound crazy but i think it's true uh starmer is basically

00:03:08.460 the most right-wing leader of my lifetime um like in in my adulthood right so i about tony blair i

00:03:17.400 became an adult just after tony blair came in and so all i really remember is labor i mean i've got

00:03:23.700 vague memories of john major but he was very gray you know on spitting image and didn't really do

00:03:29.000 anything as far as i could tell but then you've got tony blair and and new labor and you know um

00:03:34.380 what was the the phrase um what was the phrase cool britannia right the the there was a great

00:03:41.340 upswell of confidence in the country and ever since then it's just been left-wing governments

00:03:44.420 and then starmer came in and he started actually doing stuff i mean it's likely that by this time

00:03:49.440 next year if burnham doesn't come in and just crank the reverse button on everything that

00:03:54.940 britain actually has net negative migration and it's to the point where the guardian's howling

00:03:58.740 about it well that's just extrapolating from the trend from the fall off of the peak boris wave

00:04:04.200 no no no no no it's it's actually like it the okay that it would go down to about there normally

00:04:09.980 but actually it looks like kirstama got it down to here and it could go lower because shibana

00:04:16.080 mahoud is actually doing what the right wing wants to be done it's actually really weird i

00:04:23.140 mean tiny bit skeptical but okay sure but the the numbers are the numbers right um the guardian is

00:04:30.420 whining that there are universities oh they're gonna have to merge together because starmers

00:04:34.680 put heavy restrictions on student uh immigrant students good great i don't care let them merge

00:04:41.820 let them let them fail if they can if they don't actually bring in british students not my problem 0.95

00:04:46.460 right uh so they they point out that this this means oh god the economy is going to collapse

00:04:51.520 by the way well we know that i think foreign students owe us about one billion pounds in

00:04:58.500 student loan debts so actually they would also like that back at some point yeah for anyone

00:05:04.300 doesn't know you have to be i think it was three years before you can qualify for a student loan

00:05:08.240 and if you're on a four-year degree then you can come here do the three years get a massive student

00:05:14.120 loan and then just back to indonesia or wherever you come from and we're never getting that back

00:05:19.580 so you're absolutely right that's you know a lot of a lot of european students have done that as

00:05:23.580 well they've sort of gone back to spain or wherever and they've just not paid it back but i just don't

00:05:27.580 understand how that's possible can't we we know who these people are we can just ask them they're

00:05:34.220 going to argue that brexit has done this to us um but anyway yeah so the the net figure uh the

00:05:40.240 figure for net migration could go below zero for the first time since 1993 which honestly is pretty

00:05:45.600 incredible work by starma you can't deny it is that because our guys are just giving up on the

00:05:50.840 country there's still like a net no no no it's because anti-native flow no i mean it's it's bad

00:05:58.360 that quarter of a million brits leave every year but that's been fairly consistent for a long time

00:06:03.380 so it's not this is actually starmer has made concrete changes that harry's doing a daily

00:06:09.580 video about it now so go subscribe to the daily channel um that'll be up later going through the

00:06:14.580 exact details of all of the things that he's done um in fact we'll get some of the things that he's

00:06:18.820 done actually in a minute but um so this they they complain that this presents a significant

00:06:23.500 headache uh for the businesses that rely on immigrants and the expected loss of tax receipts

00:06:28.400 for the treasury it's like listen right those delivery drivers are not gdp right they are not

00:06:33.720 contributing to the exchequer it's just not happening you think they're paying tax honestly 0.99

00:06:38.640 mental but uh oh no those businesses that are going to rely on the immigrants i know 0.98

00:06:43.420 our vape shops and barbers have you considered you remember when we were young like petrol 1.00

00:06:48.460 stations and all those sort of jobs it was just young people yes now it's just indians who will 0.82

00:06:52.260 serve coffee and pret yes yes teenagers yes that's what they're for yeah um the national institute

00:06:58.160 of economic and social research uh has likened the effect of brexit and they think it'll knock

00:07:02.980 3.7 percent off the uk's annual national income by 2040 i'm not convinced about that because of 1.00

00:07:08.320 course i think that we're spending billions on foreigners it's just living here and being 0.50

00:07:13.780 parasites on the taxpaying british person i mean we've seen the uh studies from denmark and the

00:07:20.620 netherlands which shows that literally anyone who's not a northwestern european is not a net

00:07:25.400 tax contributor and i suspect the same is true about our ones i mean this is i mean this is

00:07:30.700 literally 15 of all the people who claim universal credit are just from us over abroad overseas like

00:07:39.860 why would we allow this this is completely mad isn't it you've got to remember this is our second

00:07:43.580 biggest expenditure line in government yes and we could cut it 15 just like that yeah if you went to

00:07:49.820 any business and said i can cut 15 from your biggest expense line any business would do it

00:07:55.260 straight away but we just for whatever reason yeah the other issue here is they say british

00:07:59.760 citizen and as we know foreigners who then have a passport are british citizens so we'd like to

00:08:05.620 see a breakdown of the ethnicity as well because you know apparently anyone can be british after 0.92

00:08:09.980 of five or ten years you know as danny kruger likes to say an afghan can be here for five years

00:08:14.780 and be just as british as well yeah absolutely yeah literally farage is five or ten years

00:08:20.260 uh but unfortunately this is the first time that the department of work and pensions has

00:08:24.060 provided such analysis they do not give it by ethnicity so the country of nationality is the

00:08:28.860 best we get but even then i mean you are right but even then this is still mental uh anyway this

00:08:33.340 this is costing us a billion a month by the way so that's somewhere north of 12 billion a year

00:08:38.160 which is mad so getting the number of foreigners coming into the country down significantly 0.98

00:08:43.180 it's actually a major win for starmer uh i've got to give him credit on it and uh extending the ilr

00:08:48.580 uh yeah and definitely to remain uh by to 10 years that's gonna have a kind of attrition effect

00:08:55.760 where those ones that would have waited five years and then claim benefits are just gonna 0.81

00:09:00.660 go because the country's going right wing anyway they they think that nigel farage is going to 0.99

00:09:05.320 open gulags or something and so they're all going to start self-deporting so it gives us an extra 1.00

00:09:08.620 five years to win exactly it gives us extra time so it's almost like starmer's kind of teeing up

00:09:13.640 the right here it's like listen guys you know you can do it so just just saying right starmer's

00:09:19.120 actually helping people and of course you've got the uh young people which being out of work and

00:09:23.140 these are just mad numbers um that are the responsibility of the conservative party right

00:09:28.680 so for every 28 people employed 27 of them were non-eu migrants and one of them was a young 0.88

00:09:35.820 british person since 2020 right just on that carl so when we say non-eu that's a term to gaslight

00:09:42.980 us it basically means third world they when you see non-eu read that as third world migrants yeah

00:09:48.700 of course global south i think like there's any any number of uh terms we could use but obviously

00:09:56.300 uh not useful people is what we mean and i mean these numbers are just kind of mad so the number

00:10:01.740 of uh non-eus or you know global south third world whatever we call them under 25s on uk payrolls

00:10:07.500 has increased by 290 000 since january 2020 which is a 355 increase compared to the 11 000 british

00:10:16.860 people young uk nationals and again these are people with british passports so that's that's 0.92

00:10:21.420 horrific like what what actual chance do young people have in this kind of environment so

00:10:27.300 and even as far as increasing the english language requirements so this like reducing

00:10:33.140 the number of translation services and all this sort of thing based from starma yeah he should

00:10:36.640 speak english yeah yeah but like boris johnson didn't do it yeah pretty tall didn't do it

00:10:42.660 pretty low bar yeah yeah it's a pretty low bar right but the point is starma showed us no no

00:10:49.560 this could be done you could get a right-wing prime minister like keir starmer at any time

00:10:53.460 and suddenly this is possible the concern it was completely within the purview of the

00:10:58.080 conservatives so i don't know it's normal when a prime minister leaves that they normally leave

00:11:01.820 at the point that they're maximally hated and then afterwards their reputation tends to grow

00:11:06.380 and people tend to find the good good in them i wasn't expecting you to be leading the charge

00:11:11.540 for starmer though well all i'm saying is again it's like you know if um if if you defeat the

00:11:18.800 arch-villain then suddenly but there were some good times weren't there i mean the next one is

00:11:23.620 like he didn't go into the war with Iran there was a lot of pressure Farage and Bednock was just

00:11:28.460 like yeah quick we need to go into the war with Iran i don't want to go into a war with Iran

00:11:32.000 and Keir Starmer weirdly was on the right side of that argument just i mean he has been channeling

00:11:38.540 as much money as he possibly can towards Ukraine so there was that sure but that was a war that

00:11:42.820 was already ongoing that the British state was already committed to i mean Boris Johnson was

00:11:47.000 the prime cheerleader for that. And honestly, that's way more defensible. Russia had at least

00:11:53.060 invaded Ukraine. Ukraine was at least nominally aligned with the West. I mean, there is at least

00:11:59.400 an argument to be made that the poor people of Ukraine could do with some support from the evil 0.87

00:12:04.260 Russians who had invaded them. And so you can understand why I'd be on the same side as that, 0.95

00:12:09.320 right? You don't have to like Zelensky to understand there is a sort of persuasiveness

00:12:14.400 in that argument but like going going into iran for what israel yes yeah israel yeah i was at an

00:12:22.500 event yesterday with the heritage foundation um and they were basically a few people some of the

00:12:29.800 some of the speakers were saying that it's a shame that britain didn't support the us

00:12:35.180 with this iran war but of course they failed to mention that it's actually the war for israel it's

00:12:42.540 not it doesn't benefit america in any way shape or form and in fact trump is not looking good for

00:12:48.560 his midterms in november um so it doesn't benefit them at all this decision so obviously we should

00:12:54.200 not have joined america or israel with iran yeah good on starmer it's pretty impressive for british

00:13:01.140 prime minister to actually withstand influence from the united states and israel so it's pretty

00:13:05.660 pretty new this is what i mean by you know starmer's kind of like he's the most unlikable man

00:13:11.140 but there is something about his autism i kind of appreciate there um and then he's like

00:13:16.780 we can complain all we want but who else banned hassan piker from britain right no one else banned

00:13:24.420 hassan piker it's the funniest thing in the world oh the uk's in disarray yeah yeah yeah you can say 0.94

00:13:29.780 it from california mate stay out and then he banned this yappy colombian grifter who was going at me 1.00

00:13:35.460 on twitter it's like you know what i'm just saying he's winning me over here you know your 0.97

00:13:42.000 response to her was quite epic i will give you that yeah but like back to columbia chihuahua um

00:13:48.300 not interested but the same with hassan paika just you know he's molding on twitter and twitch

00:13:52.920 and whatnot it's like no look that's that i i actually there's something about the sort of 0.92

00:13:57.040 exercise of sovereignty that i appreciate here so oh you've got these mouthy foreigners like 0.75

00:14:01.700 well not under starmer's watch we don't no they're put in their place you're not coming in deal with 1.00

00:14:06.380 it you know so he also banned either of the dinkerbrook yeah true didn't the conservatives

00:14:12.320 ban her i don't think so are you sure she was banned previously i mean lauren southern was

00:14:18.740 banned under the conservatives yes she was banned in 2018 that was probably a good idea

00:14:22.720 that that's true but the conservatives yet again accidentally do something correct um but this

00:14:29.660 yeah so like i don't know man like this there was something starmer was um for all his evils and of

00:14:36.820 course there were many evils almost uncountable evils he did have some strengths and like i said

00:14:43.060 earlier there's something kind of mimetic about him as well like he has he has his flubs where

00:14:47.680 he's like you know let's have the return of the sausages in conference speech and where he's like

00:14:52.700 yes i am a gooner and things like that and it's like we know now he's talking about ukrainian

00:14:56.900 rent boys but sure sure well no not from the bbc report we don't know that okay um but uh yeah no

00:15:02.920 so because he's such a boring man he's kind of a blank slate that you can project these things

00:15:09.080 onto and then when he makes a flub it's actually i thought it was quite appealing you know i actually

00:15:13.660 found it quite nice um and of course remember he banned kids from the internet which i do agree

00:15:17.920 with even though i hate the way he's gone about it um obviously it's just advanced digital id blah

00:15:22.720 well again he hasn't banned kids he's banned everybody who doesn't show digital id yeah

00:15:28.400 but and also why can't my kids watch youtube if they want to yeah but founder of um platform

00:15:34.680 zigazoo mr zach ringelstein is absolutely furious about it so yes just saying you know these these

00:15:43.600 people who want my kids to have social media no i'm i'm we'll just ban it yourself then well i do

00:15:48.940 but again we've we had this conversation earlier my kids go out and play with their friends their

00:15:53.280 friends are like here's some porn on your phone i'm like stop that yeah i don't think kids should

00:15:58.260 have smartphones basically but uh but yeah so anyway like i said like there's there's something

00:16:03.500 i think a bit wistful about it you know i don't think we can get these sorts of memes

00:16:08.120 out of andy burnham i think we're just going to get someone who is kind of well-meaning and tries

00:16:13.820 to do the right thing and fails on the merits whereas kia starmer just kind of came out and

00:16:18.260 said no 24-hour courts full force of the law economy ruined i think it's going to be exactly

00:16:23.580 the same with burnham it's just going to take a month jury trials abolished start starma full

00:16:30.320 spectrum was incredibly popular in the first few months yeah he was but then you know but but andy

00:16:36.500 burnham won't give the same sort of response to a sort of southport attack yeah andy burnham will

00:16:40.960 give a human empathetic response that's true so this is what i mean so the the with starma the 0.98

00:16:47.600 evil is just on full display he's like no i'm skeletal i'm here to kill you i'm here to destroy 0.98

00:16:52.440 you i'm here to take away your rights i'm here to censor you i'm here to surveil you it's all up 0.99

00:16:57.200 front because stum had no guile right andy burnham will be like oh no we need to do this for good 0.71

00:17:03.080 reasons and so the same agenda will be purposed under this kind of you know well-meaning doughy

00:17:10.080 northerner and it's like no no no i i like having the hateable villain who's just telling me honestly

00:17:15.520 he hates me and he's going to put me through these 24-hour courts i'm not trying to be super

00:17:19.180 argumentative but that is exactly what he did with the social media ban the whole thing was like

00:17:24.980 uh would you like digital id and everybody said no yeah and then he said oh how about we save the

00:17:30.640 children yeah and everyone goes well that sounds like a good idea how are you going to do that

00:17:34.020 digital id yeah so there's some guile i don't know i mean is that guile everyone can see that's just

00:17:41.260 i agree that it's just a push for digital id right but again we're negotiating with skeletal

00:17:49.160 so like what do you expect you know these are just like he's he's he's openly an arch villain

00:17:54.120 and i appreciate him openly enough being an arch villain you know and it makes him nematic

00:17:58.520 it makes him genuinely entertaining you know and i found myself like yeah i am a bit of a

00:18:03.960 stormtrooper actually i do actually care about the dear leader um you know the memes have been

00:18:09.980 brilliant absolutely brilliant of him just stamping down the labor party uh and not giving

00:18:19.240 a damn and i'm wondering how much of an absolute sigma he is right because it he there's going to

00:18:25.220 be in uh next month the ninth of next month um the leadership contest right he is actually eligible 0.99

00:18:32.160 for it yes he actually could go for it and i mean at the end of the day he already ejected

00:18:38.440 one troublesome faction leader jeremy corbyn it's still within his power to make andy burnham the

00:18:43.940 independent mv for makerfield like he actually still be funny it would be hilarious i'm not

00:18:49.240 saying he's gonna do it but he actually does have the power and the position to actually stand in

00:18:56.520 this leadership election and to be honest with you it's not even a cert that he'll lose because

00:19:01.840 polling has been done with the labor party members and he was on about 36 and andy burnham was on

00:19:05.720 about 36%.

00:19:06.580 And I watched Camilla Tomney, like,

00:19:08.480 grilling like a Labour guy over this,

00:19:10.060 and she's like, well, there's a popularity of each other.

00:19:12.500 It's not set in stone.

00:19:14.780 So all I'm saying, Keir, is that there is a comeback for you.

00:19:17.700 You can do this.

00:19:19.120 You don't have to just let them do this to you.

00:19:21.740 And are you just going to take this, Keir? 1.00

00:19:24.120 Are you going to take these little bloody northern shits 1.00

00:19:27.000 coming in and ruining your plan 1.00

00:19:29.260 for the destruction of this country?

00:19:31.400 You can do this, Keir.

00:19:32.260 I think you should stick it out.

00:19:34.380 Anyway, we'll leave that there.

00:19:35.720 i may not agree with all of that

00:19:38.100 but okay by here he says the short version of this is voting is almost now irrelevant the

00:19:44.880 situation is now bad we are merely choosing the type of crash we have that's it yeah i pray

00:19:49.580 restore succeeds yeah no i agree and that's that's basically what it is but i do think there's

00:19:53.920 something to the um kia sarman just being openly a villain thing because andy burnham will pretend

00:19:58.460 to be your friend and he will persuade a bunch of people oh no labor aren't that bad actually

00:20:02.540 and it's like no but he's not going to change anything everything's still going to be terrible

00:20:05.440 and it will just get worse and i'm sick of them lying to me you know i'm sick of them oh i'm on

00:20:10.420 your side no you're not on my side anyway let's carry on uh yes right so uh i saw this this post

00:20:17.140 apparently arry andy burnham is choosing between ed milliband west streeting and shabana mahmoud

00:20:22.020 to become his chancellors what do we think chaps any any strong views as to what the standout

00:20:27.280 candidate there is anyone wow these three yes i'd pick shabama why is that then because i've been

00:20:35.620 seeing the edit she's been making of deporting people which is pretty crazy right again shabana

00:20:41.140 mahmoud edits of deporting people on the home office page on tiktok right are they that's what

00:20:47.800 that's what i mean i kind of like the uh the brutality of the uh starma regime he's locking

00:20:53.480 people up if he disagrees as well there you go carl you convinced one person with your segment

00:20:56.900 i i think starma is the one who's done the convincing all right i'm just being honest

00:21:01.920 about it you know so i was i'm gonna look this up but sorry carry on okay so anyway so there's

00:21:08.160 our three choices now um i was thinking okay well why those three because none of them have got

00:21:13.320 particularly good financial chops so why don't they just pick somebody better now that got me

00:21:19.320 thinking you see so oh yeah and uh this this great meme from from burnside hands up if you ever run

00:21:24.680 a business that's the other thing that got me thinking um evidently nobody nobody is putting

00:21:29.840 their hands up so i thought well let's look at this sorry sorry isn't this just the most hr karen

00:21:35.220 picture you've ever seen in your life i'm not sure why none of them don't have blue hair or something

00:21:40.200 i just ah wig see like everyone complain about stalin man but things are going to get so much

00:21:45.360 worse there's so much look at these people not one of them is going to be like okay maybe we

00:21:51.860 should try and do something like you know starmer i disagree with so much of what he did but these

00:21:58.820 people are just going to ruin everything you're making the argument they don't know what they're

00:22:02.940 doing at all well funny you should say that because i thought okay well if if i'm going to

00:22:08.900 make the argument that the labor should pick somebody better as chancellor i need to look at

00:22:14.300 who is the alternative choices so anyway i built a spreadsheet of all the labour all the labour

00:22:20.960 party um mps because i mean there are 400 of them it's 403 now it mustn't have been a nice task

00:22:27.260 oh it's all right i automated most of it and scraped the data from the um from the parliamentary

00:22:32.080 website so i've got a list of labour mps uh what their background is and all that kind of stuff so

00:22:37.760 you can see um i need to shrink that one a bit uh on the screen so what have we got oh maybe i'll

00:22:44.540 shrink the constituency as well okay so um what have we got so we got you know there was somebody

00:22:50.280 from the nhs um somebody worked in policy made a member of the national executive committee

00:22:57.200 that one was a barrister oh here we go um served in the raf as the chair of the ethnic minorities

00:23:04.220 network that that must have putin shaking in his boots the water industry expert guy dr scott 0.85

00:23:10.260 arthur he sounds like he's not a retard uh possibly possibly i mean i think it's regulation 0.84

00:23:16.400 though i was sure but it's something not not business former msp um you know tuc former 0.80

00:23:23.160 special there's a lot of former special advisors not on this page but trust me as you get in there's

00:23:27.060 a lot of former special advisors um pollster journalist anyway so so there's a whole bunch

00:23:33.660 on here and and basically um then what i did is is i kept on whittling it down um until i could get

00:23:40.440 a list of people who actually had some finance experience now you might be alarmed this is going

00:23:47.320 to be a very long segment as i go through all of the labor mps with business experience trust me

00:23:53.500 we will be able to get through it in the time so well there's 17 of them basically you've given

00:23:59.480 them a score have you yes is it out of five or ten five well in fact if if i was scoring against

00:24:06.460 all mps it would probably have to be out of 100 but since it's out of labor it's out of five

00:24:12.600 so adjust your expectations accordingly yes so the strongest i could find was this uh jess

00:24:20.420 apthewal chap so he's actually started a business he started um children's day nurseries

00:24:27.420 and ended up with like 300 under fives or something and he's also got a whole bunch of

00:24:31.840 property interests when i hear that i just think of nick shirley in the daycare center in minnesota

00:24:37.140 the somalians possibly also can we please get like yeah a british candidate yeah don't worry

00:24:44.840 don't worry about that for now because it's the late party but i mean literally this is going to

00:24:49.180 be funded by the government right because well there was yeah okay there is that yes no no and

00:24:53.200 ironically uh because remember the government gives 15 hours for all three to four year olds

00:24:57.560 uh nurseries for free day yes free child care every week and then you get 30 hours for eligible

00:25:02.820 families so this is all going to be funded by the government well you're peeing on my chips now i am

00:25:07.000 because sorry to be argumentative he is the strongest candidate we've got who got second

00:25:11.140 in second place we've got um tanja meat jeet sing desi okay um and he had a small construction

00:25:19.540 company and about two people in it but nevertheless um he's got a business so he he's the next

00:25:25.140 strongest candidate we got we got this bill chap here he worked as an accountant became a director

00:25:30.580 of a small training firm so he hasn't built a business or anything but he's got accountancy

00:25:34.020 so he's more financially literate he probably he probably knows what goes in a balance sheet

00:25:38.300 all that kind of stuff so that that is something and he's been around in parliament for 16 years

00:25:42.920 yes yes there is yes so he knows he knows what to stand up and say and all that kind of stuff

00:25:48.060 um so this guy he he's got a a phd in community economic development which isn't really economics

00:25:56.460 it's it's how to spend government money but he did start a business so there we go so that's

00:26:02.860 something well what business did he start sorry uh fat sand which is a brighton based video company

00:26:10.620 so what what they're filming there i don't know hopefully it's all right well let me check

00:26:16.700 i didn't want to check but i'm curious let us know if it's wholesome

00:26:22.240 uh i mean it's a video production company in brighton yeah yeah doesn't sound good anyway

00:26:30.260 moving on uh ian ian murray i'm not gonna read the address he worked at agon for a while um and

00:26:37.880 and of course yeah exactly every time he started a hospitality business um although he did have

00:26:45.180 another business which collapsed so well you know that that is something what toby perkins here

00:26:51.340 uh 20 years in sales and recruitment consultancies and he started a small business that sold rugby

00:26:58.740 clothing on the internet so a bit of amazon drop shipping so there we go there's there's something

00:27:05.380 sorry i'm looking into these ones that you've given me because i'm i'm not convinced i i don't

00:27:13.340 think any of these are like multinational conglomerates or anything no they don't have

00:27:17.820 to be in fact that might be a that might be something of a downside right because they're

00:27:22.220 kind of insulated from uh major decisions um but what i mean is um i'm not convinced that the um

00:27:30.140 the things that you're presenting are uh not just government funded well i had to get this data

00:27:36.720 in in this in the spreadsheet here i mean i got it from scraping the parliament website so this

00:27:41.900 is basically what they say about themselves right because um that dc construction yes

00:27:48.180 it's going to shock you yes it's been dissolved like four times ah so it was first dissolved in

00:27:56.940 1997 right then again in 2010 applied for a new grant in february 2010 then in 14 14th of december

00:28:05.320 2010 so it's been yeah dissolved at least three times sorry um so it's one of those things where

00:28:10.780 it's like has it been run well it's not a sign of health of a business no i've never had to

00:28:14.860 dissolve my business no so you know just just saying you probably didn't have new grants that

00:28:19.360 you could apply for that's true i didn't get any grants um um graham downey um he he's got a line

00:28:28.160 on linkedin that says he was a co-owner of a communications business so uh not not that strong

00:28:36.160 but at least he's he's been at least associated with the business okay claire hughes um she she

00:28:43.740 worked at a software company eventually becoming head of growth uh before she was a co-founder of

00:28:48.540 a workspace company called pluto which i couldn't find much details on but nevertheless started a

00:28:53.440 business so there is something there uh what else have we got uh fabian i i appreciate the

00:29:01.000 commitment to the bit that he's literally called fabian um hamilton he worked as a taxi driver

00:29:07.000 that sounds good because taxi drivers are often based of course and a small businessman so i'll

00:29:11.840 give him that he was in a graphic designer before becoming a consultant for selling apples the

00:29:18.100 the computers not the yeah he's been in parliament for 29 years yes it was that he has he has been

00:29:24.840 in there for quite a long time um emma what has she got oh she worked at a financial services

00:29:30.680 lobbying company which is so she's never actually been in business and bear in mind the these are

00:29:36.840 the top 20 most business capable mps there are and she's never actually had a business but she

00:29:45.080 has worked in a lobbying firm on businesses which means she can at least talk to businesses

00:29:49.440 so there's that uh rachel reeves um if you're wondering why she's a chancellor um the answer 0.98

00:29:58.600 is because she has one of the most impressive

00:30:00.440 business CVs out of all

00:30:02.720 of the Labour Party MPs

00:30:04.480 so she's got a

00:30:06.160 she went to Oxford and got a PPE and at least

00:30:08.540 a little bit of that is economics

00:30:10.320 well the E in fact

00:30:12.100 and she's got a Masters

00:30:14.320 in Economics from the London School of Economics

00:30:16.620 and she has no business experience

00:30:18.700 but she did

00:30:20.720 work for the Bank of England for a bit and then

00:30:22.580 she did work in retail banking 0.89

00:30:24.340 yeah wasn't she like

00:30:25.440 an assistant in, like, 0.99

00:30:30.780 I can't remember what was the thing she did. 0.77

00:30:33.060 They call her Rachel from Accounts.

00:30:34.540 Yeah, something like that.

00:30:36.080 I think she worked in the complaints department,

00:30:37.640 but she presents herself as having been a senior economist.

00:30:41.760 I kind of feel, if we were to literally do

00:30:44.000 just a random sort of straw poll,

00:30:46.200 just a random, like, you know,

00:30:47.980 pulling names out of a hat from the British public

00:30:50.600 would get a better qualified series of people.

00:30:53.620 You're more likely to get, I mean,

00:30:54.880 Bear in mind, I'm just doing the top, the 20, well, in fact, there's only 17.

00:30:59.980 There's 17 Labour MPs of any business experience.

00:31:03.060 And as you can see, it's a bit thin.

00:31:05.180 It's not...

00:31:05.940 I feel like we could go down any, you know, just any small town somewhere

00:31:09.840 and just find someone on the local high street who's been running a bakery for 20 years

00:31:13.840 and get them to do it.

00:31:16.340 That would probably end up better, yes.

00:31:18.020 Yeah.

00:31:18.520 Right.

00:31:19.200 Yes.

00:31:19.900 I mean, we did have that guy who started some nurseries.

00:31:22.540 Yeah, government funded.

00:31:23.300 we started we started strong and we're getting weaker but if if you go by her cv she's by far

00:31:29.500 the strongest candidate if you go by what we have since discovered her cv actually was um she she's

00:31:36.880 middle of the pack welcome back uh there wasn't a fire well we don't we don't know that if there

00:31:41.740 is a fire we're in severe and mortal danger but we're assuming there isn't one um yes uh anyway

00:31:47.200 So we've now got Seema Malhotra.

00:31:52.240 She worked as a management consultant at PwC in Accenture.

00:31:55.960 So, I mean, that's sort of something.

00:31:58.280 I mean, it is in the private sector.

00:32:00.420 I'm kind of leaning towards giving it to Ed Miliband.

00:32:06.240 Well, yes.

00:32:09.200 Callum, he's got a policy role,

00:32:12.860 so no business experience either.

00:32:14.980 um public opinion think tank for olivia a gym what has jim got a consult political consultancy

00:32:24.880 in public affairs not one of these people have ever done anything useful have they

00:32:28.760 well there was a taxi driver true and well maybe there's something good in the last two um

00:32:37.020 noah's law ah he's actually got a reasonable finance background oh okay so he's got this guy

00:32:43.800 actually oh really okay is he is he sharp he was talking about we were speaking about devolution

00:32:50.960 um he yeah my memory stops there but yeah he he knew one of my professors and he wrote a book

00:32:58.740 well he wrote a book or your professor wrote it yeah so you know he's met somebody who's wrote

00:33:03.480 wrote a book right um but he's also got an mba and a cfa that's quite a high level

00:33:10.060 um finance uh qualification and he's worked for a few firms including deutsche bank okay well he's

00:33:16.260 a corporate finance analyst that's something yeah i mean he's qualified enough to maybe work for

00:33:21.620 rishi sunak when he was at deutsche bank or was it javid savvy it could be rishi sunak's assistant

00:33:25.760 he looks like he was fairly junior and everything but nevertheless he he's he's got a little bit of

00:33:31.840 experience i think it's quite new though yeah 2024 so he's not new that long around and then we've

00:33:37.600 got uh jenny here uh she did public affairs and pr right so ma in islamic history

00:33:44.560 yes that could come in handy yes so anyway there you go uh there are the 17 most qualified labor

00:33:53.860 mps just give it a just give it a man screw it well like i said there was a taxi driver and the

00:33:58.500 guy the guy with the nurseries i know but we're at the point now where we're desperately you know 0.55

00:34:03.660 elbow deep in a bucket of feces scrambling around to find a diamond or something it ain't happening

00:34:08.780 yes i mean we should have guessed it wasn't happening before we put a hand we've got a

00:34:12.860 deficit of 100 and whatever it is 32 billion a year but but one of these people is going to

00:34:18.140 figure it out could probably under could count up to 132 so there's that there is that um and

00:34:24.700 instead uh the rumored picks are um sorry it's labeled on this but it is it is worth seeing just

00:34:30.820 the situation that we are actually in ed milliband everyone likes him he's got a ppe

00:34:38.000 great he's got that and he's got an msc in economics okay see that's something yes uh he

00:34:45.420 has no private sector business experience at all but he was a special advisor to brown at the

00:34:52.000 treasury yes and somehow he's taught economics at harvard okay well i mean that's better than a lot

00:34:59.080 of them well yeah but that just makes me think ill of harvard rather than well of well david

00:35:04.740 lammy went to harvard as well so david lammy went to harvard as well remember so yeah yeah oh yeah

00:35:10.700 he got because he's black right he got fast-tracked through it he didn't teach there did he no he

00:35:17.220 didn't teach he was a student there well maybe he will go back and teach after i'm sure he's

00:35:23.000 got a lot of wisdom to impart indeed um uh what else has he got so so so he actually has the

00:35:31.760 strongest treasury background um but but no business or financial experience whatsoever

00:35:37.440 but somehow ended up teaching at harvard probably because he was special advisor well he's got a

00:35:42.920 master's in economics so it's not that he's not had any education if you do i mean if you do a

00:35:49.660 degree in economics you get taught by marxists sure i remember i had an economics professor

00:35:55.700 who who spent the entire lecture just hijacked an entire lecture to explain how it was possible

00:36:01.580 to go to the british library and sit in the same seat as karl marx and how he would do that at the

00:36:06.520 weekend so that he could just sit in the same seat as karl marx once sat in amazing at the british

00:36:11.240 library so i'm not that impressed with with formal economic training uh we're streeting

00:36:18.920 probably my favorite pick i'd have to say really his background is student politics

00:36:24.860 charity campaigning local government and public sector consultancy why is this guy your primary

00:36:31.600 pick well because do you remember those those um whatsapp messages that came out that he published

00:36:37.700 all the ones with um uh what's his name the the pervert the peter mandelson yes yes peter

00:36:44.760 mandelson and in those in those whatsapp messages he admits that labor have absolutely no idea what

00:36:50.960 to do about growth that's why i like him because he says what we can all see no it's because it's

00:36:59.720 because this guy is absolutely convinced he knows exactly what to do and this guy knows that he has

00:37:04.720 not a clue what he's doing my logic is right if imagine you're in a plane and the pilot dies

00:37:12.200 and you've got two candidates to follow the plane one of them doesn't know how to fly the plane and

00:37:16.600 knows it and the other one doesn't know how to fly the plane but is convinced they can do it

00:37:20.820 really well but they have actually got no idea i reckon i can land a plane

00:37:23.860 you're exactly the profile of the person that i wouldn't do you think you could land a plane

00:37:30.840 No.

00:37:31.340 So I'd rather have you do it. 1.00

00:37:32.200 Well, you are a woman, though. 1.00

00:37:33.420 But you get my point, though. 0.99

00:37:35.860 I wouldn't know how to land a plane, though.

00:37:37.780 Right, yes.

00:37:39.080 I don't know how to land a plane either,

00:37:40.660 but I still think I'm going to do it.

00:37:41.440 Yes, but that's why it's so dangerous.

00:37:43.240 Okay.

00:37:44.600 And the final pick is, let me see.

00:37:50.480 Here we go. 0.98

00:37:51.360 Shabana Mahmood.

00:37:52.680 Yeah.

00:37:53.940 No business experience whatsoever.

00:37:55.780 Or economic experience.

00:37:56.720 Or economic, or even...

00:37:59.000 Well, she did spend about six months

00:38:00.580 in the shadow finance secretary to the Treasury role

00:38:04.420 before being promoted. 0.96

00:38:06.500 Yeah, no, keep her in charge of the Home Office. 0.99

00:38:08.560 Yes. 1.00

00:38:09.060 And that's where she wants to stay, apparently.

00:38:10.920 So, good, you know.

00:38:12.180 Yes. 1.00

00:38:12.780 Keep her there flogging the Muslim network 1.00

00:38:14.920 in the Home Office or whatever she's doing.

00:38:16.900 But, no, I'm Miliband.

00:38:19.220 He's got some economic education.

00:38:22.300 West Streeting looks like he doesn't have

00:38:25.040 any experience of anything.

00:38:26.120 i don't know where street looks like someone who doesn't really exist this is my point if

00:38:31.620 i've now done everybody with even the vaguest hint of qualification in the labor party this

00:38:37.540 is all of them yes five workers you know yes i think we cooked either way i think we may as

00:38:44.780 well just get a guy who admits he doesn't have a clue that's my that's my theory no i'd say get

00:38:49.260 miliband get a guy in who thinks he knows what he's doing and let him make a bunch of mistakes

00:38:52.940 because we're getting mistakes either way right so at least when we get someone who's like no i

00:38:57.260 can do this they can't stand back and go oh okay well you know i was just doing my best it's like

00:39:02.260 no no no you made a series of decisions they've been terrible i mean that's why energy is so

00:39:05.880 expensive in this country you may as well carry making a series of bad decisions like again same

00:39:09.900 with like kissed armor like middle band is at least open about no i'm here to ruin everything

00:39:13.980 you know i'm here to make everything cost a huge amount of money i'm here to destroy our industry

00:39:17.240 i'm here to just level this country completely i don't want some guy who's like sympathetic

00:39:23.140 and it's like oh i tried to do my best but i just wasn't good enough or whatever i don't want that

00:39:28.520 i want evil okay while we've got evil in charge give me the honest evil i think beyond whoever

00:39:34.540 the chancellor is or the home secretary is we have to remember that the permanent secretaries

00:39:40.480 will still be there and they ultimately do hold more power than the sort of person in charge so

00:39:46.900 we're still going to have the same team of civil servants running each department yes i mean really

00:39:54.400 you want to chart your own course rather than just have what the establishment wants but i see

00:39:59.820 your point theoretically the ministers tell the permanent secretaries what to do probably the

00:40:04.980 other way around yes um and then just for fun i thought i'd pick out a selection of people who

00:40:11.000 weren't labor oh to compare it to so uh random um conservative mp uh chief chief executive of asda

00:40:20.840 chairman of itv chairman of marks and spencers and chairman of lazar group

00:40:25.020 um i knew him vaguely he wasn't very charismatic couldn't do the camera stuff but he had a strong

00:40:32.440 job i bet he knew what he was doing yes yes random straight white man here's all this

00:40:37.760 yeah yes uh rishi sunak um i mean his his finance background was was bloody good actually um raised

00:40:44.540 700 million under management started his own head fund all that kind of stuff uh javid um was a

00:40:51.160 senior managing director at deutsche bank a bit like that other guy that noah law chap but except

00:40:56.740 noah law would have been working as one of javid's juniors um but at least you could have somebody who

00:41:02.520 who could get into the building and adim zahari um awful over covid but he did start yougov which

00:41:09.600 is a successful business jacob reese mogg uh founded somerset capital reaching 10 billion

00:41:15.420 in assets rupert lowe a heavyweight in both business and finance so an extremely strong

00:41:22.000 finance career and then also a very strong business career i mean south and football club

00:41:25.940 in one but i mean a whole bunch of other businesses including a farm sure tice is actually quite

00:41:30.640 decent on business yeah started a proper company um i mean there's loads of them if you if you go

00:41:37.100 outside the labor party there are loads of them john redwood was very strong uh vince cable even

00:41:42.660 a lib dem um no business experience of course because he's lib dem but he was a chief economist

00:41:47.180 for shell so there's that um yeah this guy in the conservatives he started 150 branches of an

00:41:54.360 state agency this guy chief operating officer for sky so if you if you go outside of um labor

00:42:01.240 you've actually got quite a lot of strong candidates but my point is even with lords

00:42:07.440 right even with labor lords it's not so bad so so um lord sugar he's a labor lord

00:42:14.500 business experience good identifying stuff yes uh lord bill moral here founder of cobra beers

00:42:21.500 that's proper business yeah um lord sainsbury's of turville um former chairman of sainsbury's

00:42:28.620 um looking at the names it might be that's a possible family connection rather than business

00:42:33.000 savvy but nevertheless because because the family do still have quite a lot of shares in that yeah

00:42:37.640 um lord minor um whole load of finance experience um but anyway yes so brings us back to when you

00:42:47.680 when you see andy burnham struggling to make a choice as to who's going to have as chancellor

00:42:53.140 um bear in mind who he's actually picking from is he allowed to pick one of the conservatives

00:42:59.080 well actually he can yeah yeah yeah constitutionally there's nothing to stop him doing that

00:43:03.580 because i'm i'm now at the point where i'm like okay do we want to elect a government for the

00:43:08.040 entire country or do we want to elect like you know the conservative party deal with the economics

00:43:13.260 not the Labour Party for any reason actually

00:43:15.940 but like you know 0.91

00:43:16.640 can we not like break up the British

00:43:19.780 state a bit and have people who are actually competent

00:43:21.900 doing things, I feel like I'm getting to Tony Blair's

00:43:24.200 position actually is, like democracy

00:43:25.900 is kind of the problem and actually we need

00:43:27.620 executive managerialism

00:43:29.900 I'd abolish democracy if I could

00:43:31.420 alright

00:43:34.160 well the Conservatives

00:43:36.140 ruined our economy so I don't know

00:43:37.920 if they are so competent

00:43:39.660 doing that

00:43:40.820 But if they can do it, I'm pretty sure Labour can do it even worse on that.

00:43:45.680 Yeah, I've got a funny feeling that we think it's bad,

00:43:47.860 but we don't know how much worse it can get.

00:43:49.860 I think we're about to find out how much worse it can get.

00:43:51.680 The Adam Smith quote, there's a lot of ribbon in a nation.

00:43:53.860 Yes, yeah.

00:43:54.640 So much more decline to be managed.

00:43:56.600 Obviously, the issue as to why there aren't many business leaders in government

00:44:01.360 is because if they have very good jobs,

00:44:03.720 why would they want to give up their salary and their privacy to go into Parliament?

00:44:07.680 I think because a lot of the best talent

00:44:10.620 don't want to go to a parliamentary salary.

00:44:14.100 Well, I mean, there are some,

00:44:15.040 just not in the Labour Party.

00:44:17.360 Because if you understand economics and business,

00:44:19.740 you don't join the Labour Party

00:44:21.620 because you're not a socialist.

00:44:24.420 What are you going to say, Angloss?

00:44:27.080 No, I agree, yeah.

00:44:29.700 Sensible.

00:44:30.400 Right, let's have a look at the comment things then.

00:44:33.020 uh it's honestly like making stevie wonder the bus driver

00:44:38.700 god it is depressing that we've still got three years of labor genuinely depressing but what can

00:44:46.700 you do um uh if it wasn't a fire as a bundle of dynamite with a clock attached to it left by nigel

00:44:52.360 and his joker arc um honestly like i think probably just a mistake uh this is all coming

00:44:57.480 down to how many kernels of corn would you like in this turd that you have to eat yeah i know it's

00:45:02.440 Nothing good's coming out of this.

00:45:05.260 Although, Logan says good news.

00:45:06.720 Gavin Newsom is under investigation.

00:45:07.940 I haven't heard that.

00:45:08.580 It's obviously just happened.

00:45:11.340 Anyway, let's move on.

00:45:14.380 Great.

00:45:14.940 Yes, so Ang Lloyd and I went to the Remigration Summit in Portugal.

00:45:21.120 We were speakers at the conference with Sammy Woodhouse as well.

00:45:25.300 She was also a speaker.

00:45:26.300 How did it go?

00:45:27.400 It was great, yeah.

00:45:28.500 I think there's a strong...

00:45:30.240 It's just great to essentially be in a conference full of Europeans that actually agree with you and that not just agree with you, but they have the same vision as we have.

00:45:40.340 Because I think the issue is a lot of people will moan about migration and they'll say, oh, I don't like migration.

00:45:47.200 We need to stop it. 0.60

00:45:48.400 But then if you're anti-migration, you should be pro-remigration. 1.00

00:45:52.380 you know a lot of these people um including at the event i was at yesterday they keep speaking 0.92

00:45:58.320 about we need to stop migration but i didn't often hear we need to reverse it well it's too late 1.00

00:46:04.380 migration has already happened i walk around my high street and it's full of foreigners 1.00

00:46:08.520 the migration has happened that's not the problem now the problem is that they're here and they need 0.87

00:46:13.780 not to be here yeah exactly so portugal was um it was fantastic we had ever and martin selner there

00:46:20.800 who launched the Institute for Remigration

00:46:23.620 and the Save Europe Act.

00:46:26.300 So they're actually taking action now.

00:46:28.120 We're saying, you know, we all know the problem.

00:46:30.480 We've been speaking about it for a long time,

00:46:32.640 writing books, writing policy papers.

00:46:34.740 Now it's time to actually take action.

00:46:36.600 So the launch of the Institute for Remigration

00:46:39.300 is essentially to serve as a lobby group

00:46:42.380 for our interests,

00:46:43.460 because there are so many lobby groups

00:46:44.820 for, you know, refugees, et cetera.

00:46:48.160 So we need our own lobby group.

00:46:49.340 So it's a right-wing NGO.

00:46:50.800 basically oh excellent like a think tank sort of ngo what would you say the right policies and

00:46:56.480 propose it to governments and so i think literally okay great well i think it's a bit of both to

00:47:01.680 honest and then the save europe act is a i think i think you've signed to do with the european

00:47:07.360 union right yeah so it's called a eci the europe european citizens initiative you can launch that

00:47:14.640 and essentially if they get 1 million signatures from eu um citizens they have they have to

00:47:22.080 essentially brussels so the eu have to bring them into the eu to discuss um how we save europe so

00:47:29.920 if you get a million so for example i've signed it but obviously that's just a supportive signature

00:47:34.640 doesn't actually do much because we're not in the eu obviously but um yeah it's getting a lot

00:47:39.120 of support i think they've almost hit 500 000 signatures now so essentially to sit down with

00:47:44.160 ursula von der leyen and say you know what are you doing uh you need to deport all these people

00:47:49.440 from our country and it's essentially um the way that the europeans talk about remigration it's for 1.00

00:47:58.720 ethno-cultural continuity that's how they're sort of talking about it yeah no it is good to see

00:48:05.920 europeans united because it's kind of one struggle we're all facing the same problem and that's

00:48:10.240 mass demographic change and we kind of understand that if we want re-migration and mass deportations 0.58

00:48:14.960 but we don't want to stick it all on france or another european country it needs to be a europe

00:48:19.600 continental size re-migration plan so uh yeah if i go to spain or france i actually want to speak

00:48:25.200 see to see spanish and french people funnily enough um you know we see these stories every

00:48:30.880 single day we saw this morning that in tenerife a british man was murdered by a senegalese 0.73

00:48:38.400 migrant on his birthday um over a mugging that he was trying to mug you know steal from this

00:48:45.280 british guy and then he ended up murdering him senegalese migrant in tenerife so it's literally

00:48:50.480 every day we're hearing these stories but yeah back to the conference um it was very productive

00:48:55.680 i think it just shows you that um i think it's going to happen i do think we're going to have 0.52

00:49:02.880 have to enact remigration it's inevitable is inevitable and if it's not it's like nothing 0.86

00:49:08.600 matters like we won't have a civilization in the next century if it doesn't happen yeah it's like

00:49:13.900 if yeah remigration is the greatest fight for or the last fight of western civilization if we lose 0.99

00:49:20.040 everything's over if we win well we get our countries back save the uh save our civilization 0.96

00:49:26.160 and that's the main thing so we can overcome economic hardship but we can't overcome the 0.99

00:49:30.420 complete replacement of our people yes what i often say is remigration is not extreme

00:49:36.980 becoming a minority in your homeland is extreme yeah that's the way to pitch it because some

00:49:43.820 people will say oh but what about the ones that pay taxes or those that were born here

00:49:47.200 so okay well so what so you're going to be replaced whether they pay taxes or not i don't

00:49:53.480 you know um the issue is so big that i think sticking to the argument that we don't want to

00:49:59.420 become a minority in our homeland it cuts out all that crap but what about it in living memory 0.99

00:50:06.100 all countries all around the world said oh you're white get out of my country 0.99

00:50:10.780 yeah all over the world this how you know literally by the suitcase or the coffin

00:50:15.100 you are going so make your choice that was literally within living memory you don't even

00:50:20.260 need to go back for living memory i mean plenty of countries today that have an attitude which

00:50:24.200 take UAE

00:50:25.360 loads of British people

00:50:26.180 work in the UAE

00:50:27.100 but you're a guest worker

00:50:29.040 if you need to come in

00:50:30.980 for whatever economic reason

00:50:32.140 you can work here

00:50:32.920 for however long you're useful

00:50:34.140 and then you go again

00:50:34.960 but it's not that long ago

00:50:36.980 where it was literally

00:50:37.740 just stipulated

00:50:38.420 white people out 0.84

00:50:39.460 yes

00:50:39.820 okay that's literally

00:50:41.180 your grandparents

00:50:41.980 like Joanna Lumley

00:50:43.140 was born in India

00:50:44.400 she doesn't have

00:50:45.420 Indian citizenship 1.00

00:50:46.120 she can't go back to India

00:50:47.500 well I mean she can visit

00:50:48.480 I'm sure but like

00:50:49.080 you know 1.00

00:50:49.320 she can't live there

00:50:50.300 because they were just like 1.00

00:50:51.120 whites out 0.99

00:50:51.840 so okay

00:50:52.720 zimbabwe a whole bunch of others yeah exactly zimbabwe like all of north africa like this

00:50:59.960 has already happened this happened all across like after world war ii there were germans all

00:51:04.620 across these new german out you know in greece and turkey greeks turks out back to your countries

00:51:10.000 of origin it happens everywhere and it happened all the way through right up until like the 1980s

00:51:15.120 so this is not like this is within my lifetime this has been happening so like acting like oh

00:51:20.580 Well, they were born there.

00:51:21.280 So, that's not the argument that they think it is.

00:51:25.060 Yeah, I mean, my great-grandfather was stationed in India

00:51:27.360 when they got independence and white people ran out. 0.95

00:51:30.160 They had to flee to embassies or they would get killed by Native Indians. 0.99

00:51:33.820 So, it's kind of been the norm of history. 0.99

00:51:38.660 This kind of ethnic exclusivity upon decolonization is completely normal. 0.74

00:51:43.780 And what is happening to us now is a colonial project. 0.93

00:51:46.240 It's the British imperial state using foreign manpower

00:51:49.440 to literally replace our own and which is why young people can't get jobs in this country

00:51:53.420 so yeah this what happens at the end of colonialism isn't pretty but it'd be nice

00:51:59.380 if we get it done peacefully and orderly and in a democratic manner because the alternative is

00:52:04.920 horrific yeah and i think one sort of one message that i heard coming through at the remigration 0.61

00:52:10.140 summit was that we do this out of love because we love our people we love our country and we

00:52:16.860 don't want to lose it so we're often painted as you know extremists or as this article says you

00:52:22.200 know neo-nazis it's like actually hang on a minute um we're doing this because we care and because

00:52:27.760 we love our nations and our people it doesn't come from a hateful place it's it's not it's not a hate

00:52:33.220 it's not to do with hates because we love yeah so it's out of love and i think um what a lot of

00:52:39.040 people need to realize is that white people are around eight to ten percent of the global population

00:52:46.860 we are the minorities and so one thing i cannot stand is when you know india has 1.5 billion 0.69

00:52:53.260 people nigeria has well over 200 million etc etc and so they come here and they're painted as the

00:53:00.900 ethnic minorities it's like well actually no we are the minorities and we should be protected and

00:53:06.020 so if you sort of think about an endangered species they talk about habitat loss and how

00:53:11.580 you protect habitats and how you remove predators away from those that are threatened and we should

00:53:17.700 be thinking about ourselves in that way because if you look at say tower hamlets that is one example

00:53:22.060 of habitat loss that entire area has the cockneys the east londoners they've just been moved out of 0.96

00:53:27.760 their homeland of their area yeah i mean london's gone from 98 white in 1961 to 36.8 so it's like 0.89

00:53:34.900 and it's going to be

00:53:35.940 even worse

00:53:36.340 come the 2030 census

00:53:37.660 we'll be like 1.00

00:53:39.280 the aboriginals 1.00

00:53:39.980 and there'll be

00:53:41.020 a small minority of us

00:53:42.340 we'll be like

00:53:42.720 1%

00:53:43.700 eventually we'll get

00:53:45.160 to a point where

00:53:45.700 they have kind of like

00:53:46.700 native English reservations

00:53:48.460 like we were

00:53:49.120 Native Americans

00:53:49.840 and no I'm not even joking 1.00

00:53:51.360 there'll be like

00:53:51.800 you know some

00:53:52.220 village in the Cotswolds

00:53:54.140 will be marked off

00:53:54.920 as an English reservation

00:53:56.300 and that's what

00:53:57.260 we'll be reduced to

00:53:58.000 if we don't actually

00:53:58.640 plus loads of Japanese tourists

00:53:59.980 turning up to buy

00:54:01.060 yeah

00:54:02.120 we'll have casinos

00:54:03.100 brilliant

00:54:03.520 whatever it is

00:54:04.640 but also going back to the notion that re-migration would actually have a

00:54:08.080 negative effect on the economy but it depends what you're really looking at

00:54:11.100 like if you're looking at housing prices and the cost of living actually have

00:54:13.900 like a huge positive impact like we've seen I think the ONS release data or

00:54:20.960 free of information requests sent to the ONS and estimated that immigration from

00:54:26.160 the years 1997 to 2016 increased houses housing prices about 30% well we can see

00:54:32.740 it would plummet if we had millions gone so essentially we have 14 million third world 0.99

00:54:39.580 descent migrants in our country um and then on top of that so you have around five million other

00:54:46.640 migrants who are not white british that's 20 million people extra in the country um which is

00:54:52.260 mad but i'm doing some work with some policies with wppi white white papers policy institute

00:55:00.140 and we're going to be looking at the post-remigration economy

00:55:02.480 because a lot of people are discussing it

00:55:04.280 and so we want to map out what does it actually look like.

00:55:09.020 As Carl mentioned earlier,

00:55:11.100 the fact that there's one young British person

00:55:14.400 employed every 27 third worlders,

00:55:18.120 it's not that there...

00:55:19.780 The issue is youth unemployment

00:55:22.220 is also the highest it's been in the last 11 years

00:55:24.580 and it's at 16.2%.

00:55:26.600 So we've got a job...

00:55:29.040 there's a shortage of jobs um well apparently there are jobs but they're just going to the 1.00

00:55:35.160 migrants there's not a shortage of jobs there's a short there's an overabundance of foreign labor

00:55:40.220 that's the issue and of course that's what i meant sorry yeah that that suppresses the wages and that 0.95

00:55:44.860 makes houses completely i mean some of your age you're never going to get a house by the way it's

00:55:48.900 you know it's just not going to happen because you've got your house trouble getting a job

00:55:52.100 trouble then getting a house but then trouble then getting a wife you know they were worried

00:55:56.640 up the birth rates well actually immigration is crushing the birth rates as well because it's

00:56:00.280 crushing the economic prospects and people frankly can't flourish is the feeling and so they don't

00:56:05.720 get married they don't start families they and then they're like oh well the the pensions are

00:56:09.680 going to have to be paid for what would you have to bring more people and it's it's a downward

00:56:13.080 spiral that is forever going to happen unless we just say no and things have to change yeah i mean

00:56:20.000 the like ideal model of the family in the west is a nuclear family which is you build your family

00:56:25.200 in your own space in your own household and that's just not achievable with the current economy and

00:56:28.960 that you can blame that partly on immigration so if you were to reverse it or then housing prices

00:56:34.160 would plummet essentially and people could be could buy houses and then they could start families and

00:56:39.520 i think that would naturally increase but birth rates um obviously alongside cultural incentives

00:56:44.880 and you've actually got to teach us the most fulfilling thinking actually doing life is

00:56:48.640 reproduce but yeah i think one other argument that i don't often hear is um some people and

00:56:54.560 and I've actually heard this,

00:56:56.460 some people say that they are afraid to have children here

00:57:00.940 because they would be a hated minority.

00:57:04.560 So if you're a white British child at school,

00:57:07.660 you're taught about your white privilege,

00:57:10.000 even though this is your own country,

00:57:11.860 you might get pushed to the back of the class.

00:57:13.820 And then when you go to enter, say, a university or a job,

00:57:17.240 because of these DEI schemes,

00:57:19.140 you might then not get the job 0.84

00:57:20.640 because you are white British in what is essentially,

00:57:23.700 this is our land you know so why should you be pushed back so i've got friends saying to me i'm

00:57:29.220 worried that that can happen um i think conor tomlinson also yeah i think conor tomlinson

00:57:34.280 also speaks about this because obviously he's he has twins on the way and he often talks about how

00:57:39.700 they might or probably would become a hated minority which is just ridiculous i mean like

00:57:44.780 people think all these like dei schemes will just go and become a minority well we're a minority in

00:57:49.680 london and they're still double down we will become a persecuted minority these people hate us like

00:57:54.360 inherently because of our ancestors and because of the empire and stuff so it's just not going to go

00:57:58.640 away well look at south africa i mean they have at the moment they're the only country that has

00:58:02.520 affirmative action for the majority uh yes it's just mad but look at the economy like it's something

00:58:07.820 like three quarters of people in south africa benefits dependence and only a quarter of people

00:58:11.840 are actually paying into the system which is of course why they have rolling blackouts and

00:58:15.220 constant failures and the thing is returning to the mulch from which it was built like this is

00:58:19.820 just totally unsustainable and fundamentally it comes down to the question why should we give up

00:58:24.740 our country you know why should we give up our claim to our ancestral land and of course we

00:58:28.920 shouldn't it's an unreasonable thing to ask i just i just i just think what i genuinely think is like

00:58:34.680 is that they have such an audacity to be here because they know that by them being here we're

00:58:40.980 becoming an ethnic minority but they simply don't care they just care about themselves

00:58:44.400 they want a better life for themselves um so i would encourage people to please you know i would 1.00

00:58:50.380 plea them can you please start deporting i don't care they don't care so we either get to a stage

00:58:55.800 where okay so the best scenario is they do start self-deporting um either because they realize that

00:59:03.400 you know the british people deserve their homeland or because we make it so hostile for them that

00:59:08.960 they leave so option self-deportation then you have voluntary repatriation where they might be

00:59:15.040 paid a sum of money to leave as we've seen across other countries and then eventually you get to a

00:59:19.980 stage where you know we've asked you to leave we've tried to pay you to leave okay now it's

00:59:24.840 getting to the stage where we're going to force you to leave yeah there's no chance you're going

00:59:29.280 to say please this is our country please can you leave no it needs to be hostile it needs to be by

00:59:33.080 force and uh these people don't care if we lose our country like these people just don't like us

00:59:39.300 and like why should they actually care that we're becoming a minority they're just not going i don't

00:59:43.720 think they do um i don't think force is um something we should leave undefined um i obviously

00:59:51.560 think that anything we do has to be done democratically and this i think means we have

00:59:56.720 to win a majority with a patriotic government that can just start sending people home i mean

01:00:02.580 omar makes a great point we've got to thank shabana mahmoud and starma for paving the way to

01:00:06.600 strip citizenship from anyone we want because after they removed the white british guy who

01:00:10.420 moved to russia the englishman who moved to russia because he married a russian woman

01:00:12.700 okay no citizenship for you well if that's possible then there are people with a much

01:00:17.900 more flimsy connection to this there's a couple of useful examples one is they can you can change

01:00:22.480 the vote who can vote whenever you damn well like yep and two you can strip citizen from whoever

01:00:26.920 you like yep well those are two quite powerful things that just one right-wing government has

01:00:31.440 the precedence it needs to just start literally removing millions of people but you can press

01:00:37.360 next on there if you want your other links or anything thank you and what what i want people

01:00:40.700 to realize is that remigration is two things number one remigration is perfectly normal

01:00:47.400 and two remigration is literally happening right now in other countries so just two examples if

01:00:52.440 you look at kuwait they've stripped 42 000 um migrants of their citizenship so you can just

01:00:58.800 remove citizenship and two as karl touched upon earlier so both um iran and pakistan between them

01:01:05.560 they've deported 4.5 million afghans in the last two years so it is happening we just aren't doing 0.99

01:01:12.440 it and i think people need to be aware that yeah re-migration is happening and it is normal yeah

01:01:17.140 it's normal it happens all over the world i remember being sat in a cafe in where was i think

01:01:22.620 it was cambodia or something like that and um the the cambodian government they they decided that

01:01:30.820 they wanted to get rid of all drug dealers because they had a drug problem and rather than do sort of

01:01:36.080 extensive police investigation they just decided the easier way to do it was to send the police

01:01:40.280 out to to track down anyone who was black and ship them out the country i was literally watching

01:01:44.840 them running up and down the street along the beach just just grabbing these guys and um tossing

01:01:51.200 back of the police car to put them on an aeroplane so i'm not suggesting anything quite as blunt as

01:01:56.120 that but i mean it is just something that happens all over the world all the time well yeah exactly

01:02:01.460 and the other argument to make is that you know these people in our country they should be grateful

01:02:07.140 that they've got skills from here they've seen how a first world country works they probably have

01:02:11.680 assets and savings they could go back to their countries and actually build their countries with

01:02:17.240 their skills that's a very optimistic um way of looking at it because even if they don't i don't

01:02:21.620 care but no no i agree with you i agree i'm just imagining the conversations okay what did you

01:02:26.880 learn from the first world well the government just has to give a bunch of foreigners money

01:02:30.320 and then sorry i'm just i'm just joking yeah no i know you know that they people talk about

01:02:38.040 global poverty it's like okay and what about this issue of brain drain where if we have all your

01:02:43.100 nurses and doctors who's going to be your nurses and doctors there but of course we know that

01:02:47.160 that's the stereo doctors and engineers but a lot of them here are fraud you know they have i just

01:02:51.900 don't really care not my problem you know like the reason i talk about this is obviously i just want

01:02:57.440 them all gone yeah but to win over these sort of leftist minds you have to play their tactics of

01:03:03.480 well what about their country and brain drain etc sure but ultimately they do need to go and i mean

01:03:09.320 you could make the argument that essentially the west is acting like a predatory capitalist empire

01:03:14.020 by stealing their manpower i mean that is true um and that's bad for us as well because then we

01:03:19.020 become dependent and we don't train our own docs and nurses when we do they leave the country

01:03:22.940 because they're like why can't i get a job at the nhs and it's like great question

01:03:26.060 um so you you are right about it don't get me wrong well i mean i think pakistan could do with

01:03:30.620 some more delivery drivers so yeah i think maybe we could help them out with that right

01:03:34.320 but anyway let's go uh onto the article so essentially if you search up my name which

01:03:40.380 is Lorcan Barker this is what you'll see so uh a picture of me with Rupert Lowe and obviously

01:03:45.260 the little circle of two guys thrown up is that you obviously not no but the guy just checking I

01:03:51.000 mean the guy the guy on the left has a similar haircut so right if you're putting that there it

01:03:55.500 kind of looks like it's me and also they put a vocal a vocal backer of the store said last week

01:04:00.640 we all know Jews should be deported and I think uh I think that's Steve Laws but essentially

01:04:05.940 if you look at that you're going to assume that's me from a Roman salute in fact it's you you're 0.99

01:04:09.760 Literally, yeah. 0.97

01:04:10.360 And you've got to assume I've said deportable Jews.

01:04:12.720 You haven't ever said that.

01:04:13.680 I haven't.

01:04:14.320 Also, that's clearly a photo from the 90s at least,

01:04:16.540 if not the 80s.

01:04:17.780 Well, I think it was 2010s actually.

01:04:20.100 Oh, really?

01:04:20.740 Yeah, it was some guy in a branch or something.

01:04:24.700 Not me, and this is a problem.

01:04:26.900 People will assume.

01:04:27.880 If you look at that first glance, well.

01:04:29.240 Yeah.

01:04:29.880 But this is what the media is like.

01:04:31.120 Do you have the actual article where we can read the...

01:04:34.000 Was it this one?

01:04:35.100 Yeah.

01:04:35.440 Yeah.

01:04:36.400 So, yeah, let's go for the article.

01:04:39.760 so essentially they're calling the remigration summit a neo-nazi white supremacist summit but

01:04:45.640 it's it's quite literally not you've got people like greg bovino you've got people um like bjorn

01:04:51.020 hock speaking so i don't know who these people are so bjorn hock is in the afd right greg bovino

01:04:56.060 was head of homeland security i think or border control yeah running ice for trump so like these

01:05:03.420 people are legit people it's it's a legit conference you got people from vox you got

01:05:07.120 people from mps there yeah from netherlands yeah mp mps so gert wilders and whatnot his party i

01:05:14.220 don't think gert wilders i think it's people from his party were but not him but it was it was a uh

01:05:18.940 like a legit event with professional conference with professional precisely and they're calling

01:05:24.620 it a neo-nazi and white supremacist event so if you go to it you're essentially a neo-nazi white

01:05:30.600 supremacist event that's the association they want to take it's funny how that term has changed over

01:05:34.520 the years when i was a kid neo-nazi meant that you were literally a nazi like literally a nazi

01:05:40.360 whereas these days it just means that you're not in favor of more replacement yeah it's like

01:05:46.220 this conference is like nativists that are indigenous to a continent and don't want to be

01:05:52.360 replaced yeah and actually no that's just not white supremacy if anything that's a like the

01:05:58.360 opposite of supremacy if anything forcing uh demographic replacement on a native population

01:06:04.540 is supremacy well that's ethnic cleansing of us precisely yeah if they want to play it that way

01:06:09.280 i hate to say but i think rena camus is correct i don't like to use the term but it's essentially

01:06:15.120 a movement for decolonization um i really i really have trouble not viewing it in this way at this

01:06:21.120 point because it's quite clear that the imperial uh principle that our governments are operating

01:06:26.880 under is just to you i mean we don't like the electorate we'll just elect a new one uh they're

01:06:33.020 at that point where they're just using foreign people in what they think is the support of the

01:06:37.640 imperial machine it's okay but that's not what a nation state is meant to be the state is meant to

01:06:42.320 be an outgrowth of the people themselves is meant to serve us as the people of these countries and 0.93

01:06:47.420 of course they don't care as you said there are 20 million foreigners in this country 0.85

01:06:51.220 At least that we know of. 0.89

01:06:53.200 Yeah, that we know of, yeah, of course.

01:06:54.560 Probably more.

01:06:55.340 Yeah, and notice how the estimate of illegals is always,

01:06:58.560 oh, it's between one and two million.

01:06:59.800 It's like, is it hell?

01:07:01.340 Yeah, I doubt that.

01:07:02.260 Is it hell?

01:07:03.060 Yeah, there are way too many delivery drivers for that.

01:07:05.660 Yeah.

01:07:06.420 Also, I'll come back to you in a second, Angla,

01:07:09.440 but I just wanted to touch upon this.

01:07:11.000 So their definition of remigration is obviously wrong.

01:07:14.420 They've said remigration is a far-right concept

01:07:17.240 referring to ethnic cleansing via the mass deportation of non-white minority populations 0.73

01:07:22.180 and when in fact remigration literally means reverse migration that's what it means yeah and

01:07:29.420 so everyone including the daily mail that will moan and moan and moan about migrants and mass

01:07:35.260 migration well this is the solution so you're doing a hit piece on us by the way this is not

01:07:40.880 my first daily mail hit piece but you're doing a hit piece on us for trying to come up with a

01:07:45.900 solution to the problems and you know it's a problem because the daily mail is always talking

01:07:49.620 about it um how dare you what like how dare you and again re-migration doesn't necessarily mean

01:07:55.660 deportation it's like you can create a hostile environment it means they can leave on their

01:07:59.540 own account yeah the same way they can millions of them already do this is the thing that is

01:08:03.220 important to remember re-migration is happening in britain right now every single year around six

01:08:09.060 to eight hundred thousand foreigners choose to leave and they choose to leave because they've

01:08:13.640 got what they were looking for out of our country whatever that was it's just that our borders have

01:08:18.100 been so porous that a million plus come in and even with Keir Starmer being like oh look I've

01:08:23.580 got migration down they still let in 850,000 foreigners last year it's gross migration we 0.98

01:08:28.380 need to be looking at exactly it's gross migration there's a problem because what we need is net 1.00

01:08:31.900 negative immigration of around 600,000 a year so if we just stop the inflow in fact I'm with you

01:08:38.220 on this like we like we don't actually need to do anything particularly invasive what we do is just

01:08:43.180 end remittances and end the inflow and then millions of them okay and end the welfare

01:08:49.040 obviously and then there's just no point in them being here and so millions of them will go so it 0.80

01:08:53.720 gets back to literally 90 95 percent white british again and then suddenly you'll be like oh right 0.63

01:08:58.460 well this is like it was when we were kids so this and it you didn't feel like you're under

01:09:02.620 demographic threat then it felt normal it felt that the country was fine and actually go back

01:09:07.260 to the cool britannia thing everyone was super optimistic about the future of the country yeah 1.00

01:09:11.980 okay they'd be like the odd Sikh family who's running a corner shop or something but who cares 1.00

01:09:15.860 when it's like five percent of the population you don't you don't really notice it or think

01:09:18.880 about it it's just it's just not really an issue exactly so i'm not a hardliner i don't particularly

01:09:22.800 care if there's the odd nurse in the yeah i'm not steve law's nhs or anything that exactly is

01:09:27.440 foreign but if this is a world you won't know that's the point yeah you won't know i guess

01:09:31.420 is why like 30 20 years or 10 20 years ago people never questioned if ian wright was british or not

01:09:36.020 no he's just didn't come up yeah like such a small minority and again if we have this

01:09:41.220 lower housing prices so young people can do all these things and it would just be a more

01:09:46.500 harmonious uh i mean homogeneous society one thing people got from me now is that like there's a

01:09:51.420 general sort of pressure in the country just from the sheer number of people like you go on the

01:09:56.960 trains you go on the roads you do anything you walk through the streets it's like what

01:10:00.860 like i i went to um what's the capital of poland again

01:10:04.680 is it also is it krakow i think it's krakow krakow yeah one of them but i went to the

01:10:11.200 capital of poland right and it's a capital city of a large country 70 million people something

01:10:16.600 like that and there was space like this is the first sense of openness yes even in the yes even

01:10:22.500 the capital city the first thing that struck me is that okay there are people running around

01:10:26.560 but i'm not hemmed in by people you know i'm not constantly like you know there's not a crowd

01:10:32.360 everywhere wherever you go and this was you know just saturday afternoon or something i was like

01:10:37.120 okay this is nice we could have this if we wanted i think so to carl's point what's important to

01:10:44.980 remember is that our country was not designed or built to have an extra 20 million people in it so

01:10:52.360 when you look at the train services or the tubes or even the roads our infrastructure was not built 1.00

01:10:57.140 for this many people no yeah the roads would be a lot safer without like the mass influx of indian 1.00

01:11:03.000 truck drivers because i don't know how many times i've nearly been like destroyed by a truck driver 1.00

01:11:08.600 on the motorway but it's just it's not even even about the dangerous the the pressure of it look

01:11:12.760 how many cars are on the bloody road yeah but the traffic is unbelievable and so there are so many

01:11:18.520 advantages to just okay stop the inflow and let 600 000 a year go and within five years like you

01:11:25.620 three or four million people gone you'll be like oh wow that actually has made things the government

01:11:28.680 can't keep up with its own immigration scheme because i mean okay so you say the country is

01:11:33.480 struggling but i mean tesco's isn't struggling to serve all the extra people they're they're

01:11:38.300 they're enjoying it quite happily but the state cannot provide doctors and roads and housing and

01:11:43.540 all but even then if you look at the proportion of ethnic minorities in the country and the 0.99

01:11:48.000 proportion of ethnic minority doctors it's almost exactly the same yes it is so it's like okay the

01:11:52.620 more people we bring in the more doctors we need to bring in to treat these people who a lot of the

01:11:57.340 time outside of london there was a higher proportion of um foreign-born patients than 1.00

01:12:03.280 staff yeah in london it's the other way around but yeah but when you actually just get the gross

01:12:07.840 figures you just like this is just almost one for one it's actually mad it's a game so thinking

01:12:14.640 about re-migration the main argument as well is that we need demographic demographic security

01:12:19.920 and so we don't have demographic security right now and that's why millions of people need to

01:12:25.140 leave because as um angloid was saying earlier when you had the odd few or you know wasn't that

01:12:31.300 noticeable and people didn't have an issue with it now that we are literally becoming a minority

01:12:37.280 in our homeland it's it's just unacceptable you know what is it five largest cities now the

01:12:42.400 native english are nothing minority yeah but this is crazy and you wouldn't ask this of any other

01:12:47.560 people in the world. I mean, just to go back to this very quickly before we move on a sec, right?

01:12:52.440 Sorry, like this, I hate the media so much, right? Like, among those campaigning for restore and the

01:12:58.200 constituency was Callum Barker, a hardened neo-Nazi. Callum Barker is 23, right? He's not

01:13:03.540 old enough to be a hardened anything at 23, right? But he's also not a hardened neo-Nazi. Now, look,

01:13:09.880 that's in inverted commas. Who has said that? Well, I looked into this. That came from hope,

01:13:15.120 not hate no sorry stand up to racism obviously oh the the front for the socialist workers party

01:13:20.220 is calling one of our chaps a hardened neonist what a shock they're communists they call everything

01:13:25.620 on the right hardened but the daily mail is just like well someone's called him a hardened neo

01:13:29.340 nazi so we'll just include that he's not a little quotes just in case they get sued

01:13:34.120 but if they had actually said who is a hardened neo nazis according to a communist yeah it would

01:13:41.140 I think it's just a sentence entirely.

01:13:42.500 Exactly.

01:13:43.480 Also, here you can say, it says here,

01:13:45.740 the Great Replacement Conspiracy Theory.

01:13:48.460 But it's not a conspiracy, because if we look at the ONS data,

01:13:50.860 it's literally happened.

01:13:51.860 It's actually happening.

01:13:53.220 Whilst 2021 census, we were 74% white British.

01:13:57.380 I reckon now it's about 68%.

01:13:59.860 And by 2031 population census, it's going to be a shock.

01:14:04.560 Maybe that's when people decide,

01:14:06.060 oh, it wasn't a conspiracy, actually.

01:14:07.660 So Keir Starmer's not looking so bad now, is he?

01:14:09.920 but now you've said the word great replacement theory under this video when it goes on youtube

01:14:15.380 will be a little wikipedia box now saying that it is a conspiracy theory yeah well anyway let's

01:14:20.560 address why this article has been released well it was released the same week of the makefield

01:14:25.380 by-election and obviously the daily mail is like the center-right establishment and um what they've

01:14:31.560 essentially done is attack restore to uh help reform and the owner owner's wife of the daily

01:14:38.720 mail donated 50 000 pounds to reform uk on december last year so it's quite clear the narrative

01:14:46.680 they're trying to push yeah and uh the tactic here but in doing so they've essentially doxed

01:14:52.520 me they've named dox me and they've put me under the banner of neo-nazi and white supremacist

01:14:57.500 so if you search up my name now that's the first thing that will come up and i'm okay with it

01:15:02.300 because i already do what i do but imagine i was just a random 19 year old that attended this

01:15:06.780 summit and also helped campaign if it helps to me you are just a random 19 year old you know and i

01:15:12.320 i'm not trying to be dismissive or anything but what i mean is like any young man who's concerned

01:15:16.900 about the state of the country and it's like okay how am i going to make a future here gets involved

01:15:20.720 with a reputable political party run by an actual mp that is just one in great yarmouth and is

01:15:26.860 contesting other and they're just like oh here's a 19 year old kid here's his name here's neo-nazi

01:15:31.620 next to his name that's cruel that's an evil thing to do they're trying to ruin any future you could

01:15:37.580 have and at 19 to have this done like this when this happened to me i was 36 and i was like jesus

01:15:43.400 christ this was awful right but i had an established like your name i had a family i had you

01:15:50.120 know lots of friends in 19 you don't have those things this is horrific and this is why i tweeted

01:15:55.760 the other day they're the most shameless people on earth journalists they're cruel and they know it

01:16:00.200 and they revel in it so just to be clear this if you're going to get if you're going to get involved

01:16:04.300 in politics they're going to do this to you too this is an awful thing to do to anyone awful it's

01:16:08.820 a good reminder though who were actually up again and yeah the day male righteous this fight is

01:16:13.640 because these people are willing to ruin your life just for having a political opinion opinion that

01:16:18.500 differs from there uh from what they want which is restore to do well yeah i think yeah there i am

01:16:26.260 Lucy White, another Restore activist, spoke at the conference.

01:16:29.440 I didn't actually get a name calling there, which is quite surprising.

01:16:33.840 Yeah.

01:16:35.760 And the evidence is that you've said nice things about Jared Taylor

01:16:39.040 because he's a lovely man.

01:16:40.960 Yeah, I said, yeah.

01:16:43.060 But what's interesting, and I picked up on this,

01:16:44.980 is, well, I don't know if they call you Lorcan or Angloid,

01:16:49.100 Angloid and I and Sammy Woodhouse were the only three speakers

01:16:52.760 from Great Britain at this conference.

01:16:54.500 notice how they don't put sammy woodhouse in this because she i don't think so i think she's

01:17:01.140 it's because they know that she is a victim of um the rape gangs and that by putting her in this

01:17:09.640 would be painting her to paint her as an artsy when she's literally the victim of a rape gang

01:17:15.960 of migration they know that that's a step too far so they haven't included sammy but they've

01:17:20.420 included callum who wasn't a speaker just because they want to ruin his life yeah i mean again what

01:17:26.000 they've done here is obviously me and callum have the same second name but they've essentially put

01:17:30.140 a picture of me here and they've put barker's used 4098 but they're not referring to me they

01:17:35.980 haven't specified who is that that's callum oh oh i thought oh i think essentially he he posted a

01:17:42.300 meme or something and i thought that was actually they were referring to you so they're not you

01:17:46.160 would assume so they've done that on purpose as well yeah but they've not even introduced me yet

01:17:50.160 and all they've accused me of is saying reform uk have gone woke well that's true that is literally

01:17:54.940 true and what's wrong with that and what they've spoke about me in two paragraphs but used two

01:18:00.260 pictures but it's not clear they're not talking about you elsewhere you are right yeah literally

01:18:06.060 the thing about this as well what i love about this is luke trill here for more on comments as

01:18:10.140 well andy burnham's on track for a makefield win thanks to restore britain uh sorry are we going

01:18:15.000 and revisit this now in the wake of andy burnham's victory there's nothing to do with restore britain

01:18:19.960 andy burnham won this on his own merits you know whether you like him or not but look at the

01:18:24.920 authority with which he cited oh well this more uncommon pollster no you were wrong you were wrong

01:18:30.420 like more in common is actually not one of the greatest pollsters to be honest but uh they but

01:18:34.980 the authority with which it's presented this whole thing is just the sleaziest slimiest thing in the

01:18:40.380 world i hate it it says down there you know reform is the only party promising wholesale change 0.88

01:18:45.320 blah blah blah so they're just here like promoting yeah nigel actually promoting farage at the bottom 0.66

01:18:52.000 here yeah again the main reason andy burnham won is because he picked a constituency he was most 0.79

01:18:58.040 popular in as a constituency that's never voted anything other than labor literally and he like

01:19:02.540 he wouldn't why would he pick a constituency in which it would be really tight yeah it wouldn't

01:19:06.640 make sense also what was interesting in makerfield um the way that they branded the campaign they

01:19:12.060 didn't mention labor they just said vote andy so it's almost selling you're not voting for

01:19:17.360 you're voting for andy voting for a northerner that's what you're doing for us andy for us

01:19:22.900 yeah so uh should we do some comments yes um michael uh says film production in brighton

01:19:30.140 we know what kind of films he was associated with right listen right i actually have an update on

01:19:34.280 that it's actually way more boring than you would expect so uh i got chat gpt to find out what fat

01:19:40.480 sand limited have produced and they've made mostly sports slash instructional and corporate

01:19:45.560 slash promotional films not cinema films uh so like kiteboarding progression uh for beginners

01:19:52.680 advances oh right that's actually really really boring i was hoping it'd be more exciting than

01:19:57.720 that but i'm afraid no it's dull um he also says i know i can land a plane well i can get a plane

01:20:04.080 on the ground see you just have to have confidence in yourself yes it's not i don't doubt that you

01:20:10.660 can bring a plane down it's just me me being alive after you've done it is the bit that i'll

01:20:15.340 be worried about yeah uh dan seriously there is no one none within the labor party who could or

01:20:21.880 would stop the nation's spiral into an economic void lucy nails it rather the reality is that the

01:20:27.400 uncivil serpents have their hands on the tiller not the government um yeah i mean unfortunately

01:20:32.800 i do genuinely think that essentially we're going to get starmerism on steroids of burnham

01:20:38.980 because i mean his whole career has been like well government gibbs pay for the things in manchester

01:20:43.020 manchester manchesterism is just boring money yeah it's just welfare isn't so it's just what's

01:20:48.340 what's the point um and uh omar says almost as infuriating as when a british man does something

01:20:53.900 terrible and even before looking past the headline you can tell they were british not native yeah and

01:20:58.700 the second it's a white guy oh they instantly tell us don't they like this thing i mean what's

01:21:03.260 going on with this thing was in glasgow edinburgh or whatever the stand like i mean they've even

01:21:07.320 got bloody dialogue on it yeah exactly it's really quiet because i mean you'd think like 0.99

01:21:11.800 they'd all be like coming out and being like oh this is the evil natives you know it's it's fine 0.89

01:21:16.700 when a non-native does it but now the natives are doing it how dare they but they're really 0.98

01:21:21.900 really quiet on it well it came out the one of the two main pictures uh that came out of the guy

01:21:27.420 was AI. Yeah, yeah, because he's got different trousers

01:21:29.640 and different tattoos. Which is

01:21:31.420 strange, and we would have heard something

01:21:33.380 else, because we heard something on the

01:21:34.680 day of it, but literally nothing else.

01:21:37.140 And for some reason, the video's face is

01:21:39.320 blurred, so there's one video where his face

01:21:41.500 is blurred. It's like, well, why wouldn't there

01:21:43.420 be dozens of videos of people

01:21:45.280 who are like, oh, Jesus Christ, you know?

01:21:47.040 So it's just very weird.

01:21:49.880 Korak says, would remigration

01:21:51.320 be applicable to people who have integrated and married

01:21:53.120 to white indigenous? Would these people be allowed 1.00

01:21:55.360 to stay? Well, I personally think that

01:21:57.260 if you've married someone who's white indigenous then you can stay but um i don't think the the

01:22:03.380 thing is i think people take this approach as if there's going to be this um domineering government

01:22:08.700 that's just picking people up at random and that's just not going to happen because i mean a that

01:22:13.100 just take forever and b there'd be huge amounts of public resistance what you do is through a

01:22:18.540 system of incentives so you make it so you can't get benefits you are uh like you you you give 0.50

01:22:25.100 incentives to businesses to hire white british people over foreigners whether that's tax cuts

01:22:30.100 or whatever um and you make uh remittances uh you just tax them to an absurd degree so it's not worth 0.62

01:22:36.240 it and these people are okay well i'm not making out like a bandit like i used to they're just

01:22:41.120 going to choose to leave and like i said earlier hundreds of thousands of them every year do so

01:22:45.840 all we have to do is just stop the inflow it's literally i mean it doesn't need to be incredibly

01:22:49.080 hard line it just needs to be less attractive than france yeah yeah i mean like the economic

01:22:54.120 incentives to leave and also the hostile environment but it's going to be targeted

01:22:58.460 at people that haven't integrated and also things like banning kalao and kosher

01:23:02.160 or if you're integrated well that won't affect you exactly so uh yeah ed milliband is actually

01:23:08.040 going to pass that test weirdly enough luke robinson says i've seen a lot of people saying

01:23:13.760 remigration is straight from the 1930s german playbook which it is absolutely not um and i'm 0.75

01:23:19.320 not even joking that was not like hitler wasn't oh there are too many immigrants around here that

01:23:22.920 wasn't the issue in 1930s germany um but he says well no this is from the 1950s 1960s indian playbook

01:23:29.300 called decolonization that's exactly what it is it's actually to be honest with you it's more

01:23:33.960 like algeria actually because there were millions of french in algeria and north africa and they

01:23:39.420 were they fought their war of decolonization french in haiti once yeah well yeah absolutely

01:23:44.560 um and uh calip says uh watching britain makes me feel better about my finished life

01:23:49.220 well if there's nothing else at least we can serve as a bad example 0.92

01:23:52.920 yes excellent um any closing remarks to our guests i guess re-migration is inevitable

01:23:59.940 yeah i mean just the fact that you are not insane for noticing these things because we

01:24:08.940 have a pair of eyes and we can actually see what's happening in our country and um 0.93

01:24:14.180 re-migration is simply a return to normality we just want to go back to how the country used to 0.99

01:24:20.500 be it's not evil to want re-migration um millions of people should not be here and for noticing that 0.98

01:24:29.140 your life um has been affected by it and you do want to have demographic security for your people

01:24:35.020 it's not evil it's actually you know coming from a place of care and of love it's abominable to

01:24:40.420 think that you don't as well like i tweeted out the other day look all i want is the country i

01:24:45.400 grew up in for my kids that's literally all i'm asking for you know i'm not asking for like you

01:24:49.760 know rules about ethnic purity or anything like this i'm just asking for the country to be normal

01:24:54.020 you know to be normal because it used to be normal and this is really abnormal and it's really not

01:24:58.680 extreme to be asking for normality excellent well thank you for coming in guys check out lucy on

01:25:03.880 the twitter and angloid on the twitter and the instagram i believe it was and tiktok as well

01:25:08.400 and tiktok until you're banned again yeah um thank you for tuning in goodbye

01:25:38.400 Thank you.

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 23, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1446

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