The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1447

00:00:00.100 Good afternoon, and welcome to the podcast, Lothar Seaters, episode 1,447.

00:00:05.260 I am your host, Harry, joined today by Stelios, and special returning guest, Lewis.

00:00:10.560 Hello, Lewis, how are you?

00:00:11.740 Hello, thank you for having me, I'm very well.

00:00:13.500 Well, thank you very much for coming on out of the hiding that you've been in for a little while.

00:00:17.000 Yeah, we haven't seen you in a while.

00:00:18.520 I know, it's been a long time, hasn't it?

00:00:20.480 Nobody's seen you in public for what feels like months,

00:00:23.780 so we're glad that we could drag you out of whichever back room that they're holding you in in Restore HQ.

00:00:29.220 Q, presumably sending off hundreds of thousands of FOI requests every single day.

00:00:35.340 That is correct.

00:00:36.320 I knew that that's what was going on. That's why you've got the gremlin bags under your eyes.

00:00:41.120 Thank you.

00:00:42.180 You're welcome, friend.

00:00:43.180 And today we're going to be talking about Restore standing in the Greater Manchester mayoral election.

00:00:50.320 We're going to be talking about the dark future of the Democratic Party in which Stelios has decided to force us to look at Zoran Mandami's face.

00:00:59.220 for an entire segment so thank you very much for that it's actually worse than you think

00:01:03.540 it's not what harry says his face is even worse than you think and i'm gonna finish it off with

00:01:08.640 something a little bit more light-hearted and pop culture-y by talking about the mysterious death

00:01:13.780 of doctor who as they're not doing their christmas special this year and i was looking so forward to

00:01:18.940 it anyway before we get on to that is there anything else i need to announce samson no it's

00:01:25.620 a wednesday and it's a hot day it is a wednesday my dudes it is very warm so i hope you're all

00:01:31.180 if you're not at work out enjoying the sunshine possibly by the beach enjoying a cold one with

00:01:36.520 your family i do have a small announcement which i mean i could make it towards the end or something

00:01:41.320 but it's my last podcast before my summer holidays i then come back from mykonos as the

00:01:47.360 chat says so i wanted to do something very wholesome today but there weren't any ideas

00:01:53.720 so you will have to listen about communists nice and wholesome nice change really yeah so uh thank

00:02:03.780 you all very much for that let's get into the news and start off with uh manchester's bid for

00:02:09.180 mayor of greater uh sorry restores bid for mayor of greater manchester cool um so i've just come

00:02:16.020 back from makerfield uh i believe you went up briefly i was there for two days yes fantastic

00:02:21.100 um we've now that makerfield has finished uh and that we've come back we've realized that there is

00:02:27.180 a vacancy for the greater manchester area and that is for the mayoral election which is coming up and

00:02:34.660 i believe polls will open on the 31st of july uh definitely double check that but i believe that is

00:02:40.620 the date um so we have a month and a bit to prepare for that um we've now started to see some

00:02:48.800 of the candidates being rolled out for that and we have put together or put forward a particular

00:02:54.100 candidate Marlon West and in this segment I wanted to just basically go through uh just a tiny bit

00:03:00.800 about Marlon um why we're running there and just basically an overview on um you know the importance

00:03:09.200 of of basically running there essentially um straight after Makerfield. All right so before

00:03:14.500 we get into the rest of what you're going to present for us, I've just got a couple of

00:03:19.540 questions. First of all, I'm just curious, however much you can say internally with the

00:03:24.960 party, how are you all feeling following the Maker Field result? Because when I was up

00:03:30.220 there speaking to canvassers, there were talks of internal polling of 20 plus percent. That

00:03:35.380 was the number that people on this podcast were bandying about because of the internal

00:03:39.520 polling uh coming to a return in the actual election of seven percent how are you feeling

00:03:45.220 about that are you still happy with the result are you thinking that the internal polling was

00:03:49.200 flawed uh what's what's like what's the what's the feeling internally yeah so i had my branch

00:03:54.400 meeting uh straight after makerfield uh literally three days notice and about 40 people turned up

00:04:00.980 where i addressed uh to our local members and of course some of them that traveled up to makerfield

00:04:06.500 during that time about the you know some people obviously mentioned the the internal polling

00:04:12.580 I'm in my personal opinion I'm really happy with the result of seven percent we have to remember

00:04:18.340 we are in our infancy we're four months old as a party and when it comes to this particular

00:04:24.780 election there's a lot of caveats with this by-election you know Labour for example I mean

00:04:30.700 Andy got 54%, which is wickedly high, especially there. And people just really liked him. People

00:04:39.180 were basically saw him as, you know, the old guard that's going to resurrect the Labour Party. So

00:04:44.280 that for them is a vote winner. There was a lot of talk about splitting the vote and that kind of

00:04:48.880 narrative on the ground. I remember knocking on a couple of doors with reform there and speaking

00:04:54.520 to people on the doors. And the main thing was, yeah, we like Restore, we want to vote for you,

00:04:59.820 but we're afraid that you're going to split the vote and that cut through to a lot of people and

00:05:05.760 i fear or obviously it clearly showed that on the day there was a lot of cold feet from reformers

00:05:12.280 that wanted to back us but then flipped the other way we managed to flip a lot of reformers to our

00:05:19.080 side which is probably shown why well it probably shows why we had a very high percentage for our

00:05:24.280 internal polling but then within that week uh it seemed as though it's another case of cold feet

00:05:31.240 um that narrative was incredibly powerful but also a lie now that we've seen how much uh i believe

00:05:39.000 uh reform got around sort of 30 32 i believe of the vote where it wasn't enough even if we didn't

00:05:46.380 i think they got about 34 34 yes um whereas burnham yes was 54 so that was a lie that

00:05:54.200 narrative um i'm very very happy that we did stand because we want to play uh to win we want to be

00:06:01.180 standing in elections and showing that we are a force and that we have momentum and considering

00:06:06.740 reform in 2021 uh stood their first um election in hartlepool they got 1.2 percent of the vote

00:06:14.980 And so for a month, so a four month old party that decided to stand in a particular by-election with lots of caveats, and really it was all on the hope of to get Starmer out because everyone hates Starmer.

00:06:30.320 Right. So, Lewis, I want to ask you one thing. First of all, I'm of the opinion that 7% for a four month old party is good.

00:06:37.680 yeah um people think of great yarmouth but they forget that great the people of great yarmouth

00:06:44.880 voted for rupert lowe as a reform candidate back then about two years ago so it didn't require a

00:06:51.980 massive shift in their brain in order to vote for another party showed great yarmouth as well as

00:06:57.180 well i mean farage said we'd only get one percent or whatever two percent right so the polls were

00:07:02.640 showing that we weren't going to do well at all in great yarmouth so the thing is the thing i want

00:07:07.960 to ask here is that a seven percent for a four month old party is good but if the rhetoric is

00:07:14.620 entirely hype based and online oriented then a sort of rhetoric that suggests it's going to be 25

00:07:23.500 will make a good result appear to be a bad one right so the question is has this lesson been

00:07:31.420 absorbed has it been has and has it changed the internal polling mechanisms how has it how has

00:07:38.880 it informed so like i mentioned um i think the the internal polling that we were being suggested and

00:07:44.880 that was floating around i think some of them were saying 20 some were saying 13 some were saying 15

00:07:50.160 uh it but it was double figures and um reform had us polled at around two percent three percent

00:07:58.060 five percent we wouldn't get our deposit back but we beat all those polls but on top of that

00:08:04.480 it was a case of cold feet that is just the way that it works unfortunately when you're in a

00:08:11.460 particular by-election with lots of caveats like I said it was all to do with Keir Starmer

00:08:16.160 because obviously he's hated from all sides especially the Labour Party too because they

00:08:22.620 believe that putting Andy Burnham as PM is going to resurrect the Labour Party to its old glory

00:08:27.780 days which is not obviously going to be the case and they're going to find out pretty quickly i

00:08:32.400 think that that was a big mistake um but yes it has obviously been taken on board um and how we

00:08:39.520 have obviously seen that so okay i've got two other questions as well so kind of off the back

00:08:44.620 of stellios's question where it's more to do with a lot of people got very hyped up for makerfield

00:08:50.280 and the disparity between what the hype was saying versus the actual result um threatens to have

00:08:56.200 taken the wind out of a few people's sails and after a result like that would jumping into the

00:09:03.880 greater manchester mayoral election not be seen as a a risk to carry on a downward trend of hype

00:09:10.520 are you going to as still has pointed out take on those uh take on those criticisms um and avoid

00:09:16.400 getting so much on the hype train and do you see yourselves as having a realistic chance within

00:09:20.920 this greater mayoral election so obviously during this section i'm going to go through

00:09:24.660 the reasons why I'm obviously going to show a bit more about our candidate Marlon West

00:09:30.000 who plans to do a lot of media appearances to showcase and has done a lot of media appearances

00:09:35.420 about himself and obviously what he's been through as a father and he obviously gave a

00:09:42.680 testimony in our rape gang inquiry I think it's important to understand that we are in it to win

00:09:51.400 it we are in it to mobilize we're in it to show that we have force and seven percent for our first

00:09:58.560 um like i said parliamentary by-election which i know i keep saying it i do apologize had lots

00:10:04.520 of caveats that's just true even the mainstream polling wasn't showing burnham at 54 55 it was

00:10:11.740 showing it as being a split like even even it was showing it as being a bit of an eked out win at

00:10:17.520 45 and 43 for labour and reform respectively which then if that had been the result may have given

00:10:25.280 some truth to the idea that reform had it stolen because of a split of the vote which didn't

00:10:29.100 actually turn out to be the case yeah for sure um no i think we have a strong candidate marlon west

00:10:35.360 is the man for the job for greater manchester and we're gonna go for it you know we have that

00:10:40.720 vacancy open we've just come from makerfield just off the back of that and we want to galvanize and

00:10:47.180 get ready to go we had over 850 volunteers that came up to makerfield to help us we had people

00:10:53.640 from aberdeen and as far down as devon and even speaking to the guys from scotland um obviously

00:11:00.240 you do have some people that might feel a bit of a drop off from hearing internal polling and then

00:11:05.680 seeing seven percent i understand that um but then obviously there's other reactions to saying

00:11:11.060 no seven percent is good and we can build momentum off of that and that's that's the feedback that

00:11:17.600 we've got as well also just to be the good cup for once even if he doesn't win there the process

00:11:24.780 now has started you can't back down so it's absolutely it's a fight that you do have to

00:11:29.640 fight because it's all about uh recognizability we want to be a force to reckon with and we have

00:11:37.160 to start uh last question and this is something uh i've got a personal comment here and then

00:11:43.740 then the question first of all there seems to be at times a lot of confusion coming from the

00:11:49.680 messaging from the party depending on who is speaking to who right one message seems to come

00:11:54.720 from charlie another message seems to come from rupert a different message seems to come from

00:11:58.140 rupert's twitter account and one of the big controversies that's come off the back of that

00:12:02.860 as recently Rupert made an appearance on Brett Weinstein's podcast wherein he disavowed neo-Nazis

00:12:10.100 and ethnics obviously equating the two despite the fact that the two are very different from one

00:12:14.880 another which seemed to be a response to the Daily Mail article trying to smear people like

00:12:19.180 Angloid who we had on yesterday as having been a neo-Nazi and therefore through association with

00:12:24.560 Restore are a quote-unquote neo-Nazi ethno-nationalist party. Now obviously we know 0.89

00:12:30.480 that there's no um validity to those kinds of smears or accusations but it does seem to have

00:12:35.360 put off a certain amount of the online base and some of the activists who feel like it's targeting

00:12:41.040 them somewhat um do you have any thoughts on that is there anything going on within

00:12:46.960 party communications and messaging to align the party more together so that there's a more

00:12:52.940 consistent message coming out yes so with regards to that uh harrison put up a really really great

00:12:58.580 post that you can go and check out where he spelled out the uh the origins of that particular

00:13:04.100 word i don't like that word personally um the term ethno-nationalism because of uh its connotations

00:13:11.120 its history it's very loaded it's very very loaded and of course still at the same time a lot of

00:13:15.760 people even if they don't specifically use that term yeah they know that that term is used to

00:13:19.940 associate with people who have used like themselves which are more nativist anti-immigration yes and

00:13:24.500 saw it as potentially an attack against them which is why i want to say it's more obviously

00:13:28.500 rupert if you if you can speak to rupert directly and ask him directly because you know it's i'm not

00:13:34.440 we're not just going to rush around and you know try and make it seem like we're running for cover

00:13:39.300 for what people are saying but with regards to rupert that is that particular um term is more

00:13:47.180 of a generational term and it's it has different meanings for different times so clearly rupert

00:13:54.080 in this is just my opinion um clearly what that term meant for that generation is you know combo

00:14:00.960 from this is england or you know jack boots doc martin wearing you know that sort of stuff the

00:14:06.060 real aggressive hardline stuff when obviously over to windows shift and it means lots and lots

00:14:12.240 of different things it's same with uh some some uh words that use like remigration and things like

00:14:18.440 that those have different meanings for sometimes different uh people as well um so that's that's

00:14:26.700 obviously addressed there and harrison has put up a great post to sort of you know push that out and

00:14:33.040 to obviously talk about that um so yeah in terms of communication yes that that is obviously noted

00:14:40.800 and you know we are we are obviously moving forward with you know a clear and very very

00:14:47.920 honest approach when it comes to restore britain we like we like criticism i'd like to think um and

00:14:54.580 i i personally do as well because if you don't criticize and you don't take on board you don't

00:14:59.380 be transparent then of course you just become like all the other parties you know we've learned

00:15:05.200 we're learning the mistakes that we've seen from obviously the the previous parties we've seen how

00:15:10.680 reform have worked and how disgustingly they've treated obviously rupert but obviously their

00:15:16.220 voting base when richard tice went on and said that lot things like that um so yeah we we've

00:15:23.860 seen how they treat them and obviously we're not going to do that right so something i want to ask

00:15:30.780 you about but it's the last one and then we can let lewis uh lewis get on with his segment okay

00:15:36.540 i i can ask you later if you want to get get on with your segment i'll ask you to the end

00:15:42.060 no no you didn't ask i don't know i think if there's something that you'd like to ask him

00:15:47.420 we might as well get it out of the way now and then we can end with the grilling right so with

00:15:51.580 respect to that no i mean excuse me it's not grilling it's criticism and louis just said that

00:15:57.180 criticism is welcome and uh right so one thing here is that well particular people may dislike

00:16:05.260 some terms or not for all sorts of reasons but restore britain last time i checked is a party

00:16:11.020 that wants to restore britain and i think one of the major issues that hasn't been clarified

00:16:18.300 is the definition of english right who counts as english right um you are not the person who has

00:16:25.740 created ambiguity with respect to this but for instance i think that it's a good idea if there

00:16:31.500 are there are clear conceptions of who is english who is british because fundamentally if we would

00:16:41.420 say no for lack of a better word restore britain wants to appeal also to people of a nativist

00:16:47.340 sentiment i think that that would be an important question to clarify so so are you asking me what

00:16:52.940 it means to be english not necessarily i'm just saying say where some of this confusion has come

00:16:57.580 come from because i know what you're referring to here um so in a recent discussion uh i've not

00:17:03.860 watched it personally stelios has brought it up to me so if you would no i don't have to mention

00:17:07.560 this but there ha there has also been there there have been several statements that sort of muddy

00:17:13.620 the waters not by ye with respect to how religion to whether religion is essential to being english

00:17:19.440 not that's what i'm saying oh are you talking about um charlie and alex phillips the debate

00:17:24.360 between them months ago back in february i mean presumably i think it would be an important

00:17:30.100 question to clarify right i i thought that was personally clarified obviously charlie had a

00:17:35.600 debate with uh alex phillips to which um we spoke about you know britain and obviously the english

00:17:42.040 being a peoples a sacred peoples um and on top of that he said that you were less british if you

00:17:49.300 let's say um weren't christian um for example i understand the spirit of that he's talking about

00:17:55.760 the spirit he's not saying you're not british if you're not christian he's saying you're less so

00:18:01.040 because it's not the fulfillment of of of british because uh britain of what it's been built on

00:18:08.320 has been christian fundamentals and principles from magna carta uh to law and order well

00:18:14.960 everything um from institutions even buildings when you walk through london it's based on divine

00:18:20.660 inspiration let's put it that way so that's what that meant

00:18:24.580 all right i think we should move on from this now and stop making you squirt

00:18:30.720 no i don't mind it no no no i i i appreciate that lewis and you've been holding up very well so

00:18:37.180 we can we can carry on with the rest of the information relayed about the

00:18:43.620 makerfield makerfield is over now uh the greater manchester mayoral election that we have upcoming

00:18:50.080 no problem um so we finished makerfield and now we're going to go for the greater manchester's

00:18:56.800 mayoral elections now and the guardian put out a post uh recently or a particular segment

00:19:03.580 which showcased uh various candidates that are coming out and i thought we would go through

00:19:09.640 some of them to begin with i know we're having a chat just before we started on some of them

00:19:14.040 uh we've got here um in particular uh bev craig who we believe is the front runner for labor's

00:19:21.760 mayoral candidate obviously very very different from burnham i believe she has been confirmed as

00:19:27.180 the selected candidate yes yes um greens of course have a candidate as well um which is very very

00:19:36.240 interesting uh that's Geraldine Coggins I believe but there is also uh well obviously we've got

00:19:42.700 reforms candidate too but there was one candidate that wasn't mentioned and that was George Galloway

00:19:50.360 um according to Politics Global as well and his post on X saying that he is willing to return to

00:19:58.780 become um uh sorry no that's not the wrong that's not the right segment I do apologize

00:20:04.720 become prime minister there has been separate posts that he put on his own twitter account

00:20:09.720 yeah saying that he will be standing as uh candidate for the workers party of great britain

00:20:16.000 which is his uh personal party that he runs yes that's that's correct uh but he's also looking

00:20:21.740 uh to potentially stand for uh the mayor elections too which is yeah that was the that was the

00:20:28.080 announcement that he made he'll be standing in the greater manchester mayoral elections

00:20:31.240 which will be interesting very interesting because he has he does have something of a

00:20:36.720 track record of being able to just jump into places and then win win seats out of nowhere

00:20:41.480 but it's very different when you're talking about a mayoral election it's very true um i mean i was

00:20:47.240 going to ask what your thoughts are so far on uh on the particular selections of candidates but

00:20:52.980 i'm going to obviously go through marlon from what i've seen of this bev craig woman who has

00:20:58.360 been selected for Labour um I do not really know anything about her does the party have any

00:21:05.280 information about whether she's well known around Manchester because obviously Andy Burnham had

00:21:10.520 already by the time he um by the time he became mayor in 2017 he'd already built up a public

00:21:16.740 platform and a public persona through his time in Westminster through various Labour governments

00:21:21.060 and then underneath Jeremy Corbyn in 2015 and 16 um this Bev Craig woman seems like a bit of a

00:21:27.260 a wild card i've never heard of her before i personally have never heard of her before i

00:21:32.560 know i was reading that they're a bit the labor party are a little bit worried about standing

00:21:38.660 at someone so different uh to burnham because they want to quote uh continue the burnham bounce

00:21:47.420 it was called uh because obviously burnham strangely was was very popular uh during his

00:21:54.280 rain well i say that in this election it's going to be going to supplementary votes which for

00:22:00.460 anybody unaware it's basically you have two preferences you have your first preference and

00:22:04.620 second preference for the candidate you're voting for if nobody gets above 50 it goes to a secondary

00:22:10.620 round where the everybody who was uh everybody except first and second place gets eliminated

00:22:15.800 and if the if your second vote uh second preference was one of the two people who are now in the one

00:22:22.220 in the two-way race they get extra votes on top of it in 2021 burnham got over 50 percent of the

00:22:29.240 vote so it didn't even go to a supplementary round right so he is very popular in that area

00:22:34.660 yeah absolutely and it shows because you know the people of makerfield voted him on 54 percent

00:22:40.120 um and obviously when i'm obviously when you were going around speaking to people uh that was quite

00:22:46.740 the experience for you one of the difficulties of electoral politics in the first place is

00:22:51.640 and this is a problem with democracy in general but i won't go further into that is that people

00:22:55.900 vote on habit and vibes uh most people do a lot of people i shouldn't say most but a lot of people

00:23:03.120 don't assess what's going to be best for their local area necessarily they might look at what's

00:23:08.080 best for their local area but they're not also going to look at what's best for the country

00:23:11.180 they all go because my parents are voting this way my grandparents voted this way my great

00:23:16.820 grandparents voted this way uh the northwest in particular has obviously been part of the red

00:23:21.440 wall for a long time so there's a strong habitual and family hold over that area but also a lot of

00:23:27.240 people that i was speaking to were telling me yeah i'm gonna vote for andy burnham why is that

00:23:32.380 just kind of like him yeah because that in their minds i live in manchester or greater manchester

00:23:38.900 i like living here andy burnham is in charge of here therefore it's andy burnham's um success

00:23:45.120 that i like living here so i like andy burnham and that's that's so it's very difficult to break

00:23:50.040 them out of that habit really it took 14 years of continual conservative betrayal and failure

00:23:57.100 to break a lot of people out of the habit of a lifetime of voting for conservatives and even then

00:24:02.820 in 2024 conservatives still overperformed to what a lot of people were expecting absolutely

00:24:08.460 well we are standing our restore britain candidate who's marlon west um obviously very biased for me

00:24:16.400 uh but he's obviously a good friend of mine i've gotten to really know him uh since not just uh

00:24:22.120 campaign trail in in makerfield but before that in great yarmouth and gotten to know him and

00:24:27.660 i fully endorse um marlon um to really be a strong candidate for the area um and i was surprised to

00:24:36.420 that the BBC had run an article about us picking Marlon and it's incredibly neutral which we were

00:24:44.760 very very surprised about says the Restore Britain party has named a campaigner against child sexual

00:24:50.640 exploitation as its candidate for the Greater Manchester mayoral election former mental health

00:24:55.720 nurse Marlon West will stand in the contest which was triggered by Andy Burnham's parliamentary

00:25:00.900 by-election success in makerfield last week west became a prominent activist on the issue

00:25:06.260 of trial grooming gangs after his daughter scarlet was targeted and raped and a pair

00:25:11.560 published a book on their experiences in plain sight he said quote i have seen what good public

00:25:18.060 services look like and i have seen what happens when institutions fail the people they are

00:25:23.580 supposed to protect am i right in saying you spoke to marlon or was it josh i saw him very briefly i

00:25:30.600 think it was luca spoke to marlon um a few days after i'd already left makerfield uh but i did

00:25:37.980 see him briefly i don't think i exchanged any words with him i have seen the testimony that

00:25:43.100 he gave at the rape gang inquiry uh which was very very harrowing uh to hear his story uh so he does

00:25:51.100 have a very strong sympathetic backstory to him which uh especially given the problems in and

00:25:57.420 around manchester uh could be something to get the public on his side any thoughts stelios at all

00:26:02.960 no okay for the moment for the moment um this clip kept keeps coming back uh onto the timeline

00:26:11.340 um regarding burnham when he was um mayor um because of the issue of the rape gangs in the

00:26:18.780 greater manchester area and so in my view considering the public within greater manchester

00:26:25.920 have been let down for so many years on that issue you know inquiries this inquiries that

00:26:31.760 beforehand you know regarding Burnham setting up these particular inquiries has not fully been

00:26:40.460 given sorry has not given the justice for the victims and the families that Burnham essentially

00:26:48.160 went out to try and do and to promise and so there was an old clip here from the BBC

00:26:53.240 of some of the families

00:26:55.520 obviously heckling him.

00:26:57.600 I thought we would play that once again.

00:27:02.020 ...for the testimony to be given.

00:27:04.720 And I'm answering that directly

00:27:06.320 because I want that to be known

00:27:08.840 from my point of view.

00:27:10.140 You were there and you haven't answered the question!

00:27:13.240 That wasn't the question, Andy!

00:27:14.580 You have not answered the question! 0.99

00:27:17.740 Elaine, Elaine, shut up! 1.00

00:27:20.620 You don't know what you're talking about now! 0.98

00:27:23.240 yeah so that was just a brief little um obviously clip um and it shows just obviously the raw

00:27:31.280 anger and frustration from uh the local people there on how this issue is the i would say the

00:27:39.680 prominent issue of greater manchester we just heard your own report named andy burnham and

00:27:45.060 his involvement in in the wider cover-up yes exactly um so what in my i know like i said

00:27:53.180 biased but Marlon West to stand in this particular election for mayor I think was probably the

00:28:01.500 strongest move in my own opinion because of obviously he wants to bring justice to these

00:28:10.040 poor victims that obviously he his daughter obviously was and him because he's been let

00:28:16.360 down by greater manchester police by the local services and um yeah i don't know if you had any

00:28:24.280 thoughts uh about that in particular but um yeah i'm it's quite moving actually and speaking to

00:28:30.920 marlon personally one-to-one um you know when it comes to politics when it comes to standing um

00:28:39.460 obviously it's very very uncomfortable you know some people just don't don't want to do it because

00:28:44.460 of how uncomfortable it is but we're in a position now where it's a sense of duty and i do see that

00:28:51.560 in marlon um i'm sure he will be making an appearance here at some point um to speak to

00:28:58.740 you guys properly about it so i don't think i'm doing it justice at the moment sounds like you

00:29:04.560 know not sounds like i mean he does care about it he doesn't look like a career politician am i

00:29:10.380 no right wrong yeah so probably that's a good thing well um as mentioned i you know i find him

00:29:18.120 to be a very very easy man to sympathize with because of his own personal backstory um at the

00:29:26.240 moment what else is he offering for greater manchester outside of outside of his own personal

00:29:31.920 backstory uh what will he be campaigning on for manchester what will he do for manchester

00:29:38.040 that the other candidates won't offer?

00:29:40.100 So I'm helping Marlon behind the scenes for like FOIs and trying to grab data for things such as

00:29:48.720 public services, spending is a big one, infrastructure, transport, all of these particular

00:29:55.920 issues. And what we want is we want to create a pool of data that we can help just showcase

00:30:02.020 the transparency of what's actually going on in terms of spending. There's lots of stuff in terms

00:30:07.800 of like translation costs that's a big issue DEI offices things like that across councils etc

00:30:14.820 waste there's a lot of waste when it comes to that and public spending it's not fair that not

00:30:22.480 just obviously the people of Greater Manchester but across Britain are spending their money and

00:30:27.620 it being wasted completely on I hate the term now but you know woke vanity projects across

00:30:34.860 various councils uh across places you know government departments so that's another

00:30:41.160 massive key issue but they're working on putting together the pledges uh so that will be out soon

00:30:46.960 for you guys to see in greater detail okay and outside of like cutting public waste one of the

00:30:53.700 well not public waste sorry not sorry oh sorry in terms of spending sorry public spending waste

00:30:58.780 sorry forgive me um yeah uh one of one of the other reasons that burnham was popular is because

00:31:03.380 he was seen as the guy who uh wanted to keep the north strong against the south that had abandoned

00:31:09.720 it that was one of the things that he was campaigning on with makerfield outside of his

00:31:13.480 own personal popularity going to re-industrialize the north we're going to start channeling funds

00:31:18.160 uh does does marlon um obviously any of these pledges that you're working on at the moment

00:31:23.160 uh will there be any pledges to uh try to bring industry bring um uh bring uh the economy in

00:31:31.080 Manchester um into uh into a better position than it is right now it's a good question I think I'll

00:31:37.140 leave that to Marlon for when you guys speak to him all right um for him to make that pitch because

00:31:42.040 I don't want to speak on behalf you know um and also um with Manchester being such a diverse city

00:31:49.180 so just a few weeks ago in fact me and the missus went to uh and some viewers of the podcast might

00:31:55.460 even remember because they I got recognized there we went to go to a day festival at the

00:32:00.600 manchester academy and we decided to park um park in moss side because it was near enough the car

00:32:07.440 park we stayed at was near enough um and it was a heavily heavily diversified area um does that

00:32:16.140 cause any does that cause any worries for you with manchester being as diverse as it is looking at

00:32:21.360 the recent elections that have been going on recently obviously with local elections reform

00:32:26.080 made a lot of headway but the Greens also made a lot of headway. Labour did not win as many

00:32:31.800 positions within the local elections as you might have expected because there was a lot of ground

00:32:36.100 taken by the Greens. How do you intend to work around the fact that there are enormous demographic

00:32:44.140 voting blocs within Manchester who are just not going to be open to any kind of projects or

00:32:51.020 messages that you might be um might be sending yeah well you have labour green and now the

00:32:56.120 workers party all standing all three of them uh would like to sweep up the diverse or yes the big

00:33:03.440 diverse blocks the voting blocks between um so that actually sets a big playing field for us

00:33:10.700 um there's that we've just had as well i think there was news of uh another inquiry happening

00:33:17.340 in oldham is it keely and there was another place as well um so like i said with regards to marlon

00:33:27.040 and standing there because he has the experience in public services and also um you know his his

00:33:35.560 background and being part of the rape gang inquiry which is historic and rupert being one of the only

00:33:42.480 politicians to actually do something of that caliber to help uh bring more justice um i think

00:33:49.340 that there's a massive edge to that um with regards to the diverse uh voting blocs you have

00:33:55.840 three parties all vying for that like i said greens labor and now the workers party george

00:34:01.260 galloway if he does you know actually stand to the very end to it um so that may just make things

00:34:10.120 a lot easier for us uh obviously we're the only party outside of the uni party uh you know reform

00:34:18.040 is obviously the only sort of center-right party and i guess you have obviously the conservatives

00:34:23.400 but uh the conservatives candidate obviously they've not actually selected anybody yet but

00:34:29.200 the name that i've seen bandied about by the manchester evening news was a conservative

00:34:33.340 uh potent a potential conservative candidate would be a man literally called nadim muslim

00:34:40.540 so i don't know if a name like that another one's going to activate the typical conservative voter

00:34:46.180 especially given their feelings on local events around rochdale and other parts of manchester

00:34:51.620 i think we may have answered the question yeah um if you didn't know as well um regarding marlon

00:34:59.680 his backstory um his daughter actually interviewed andy burnham um for a particular uh documentary

00:35:08.140 or mini documentary for sky news um and so there is that history where you know marlon has asked

00:35:14.640 for accountability along with his daughter to uh andy and i thought i would play just a little clip

00:35:20.640 because some of the viewers might not know of this uh little backstory um we could just play

00:35:25.480 for like a couple of minutes and then um secretary won't do an interview with me

00:35:30.760 but i've come back to manchester where this all started for me

00:35:34.200 and the man here with the most clout is the mayor andy burnen who has agreed to meet me

00:35:41.960 where's the support what like yeah we'll talk can i write it down you're now aware

00:35:50.360 I put you are now aware of the grooming gangs in Manchester.

00:35:54.840 What's the next steps now to fix this problem?

00:35:57.040 What's going to be offered to victims and survivors from the past?

00:36:02.280 No, like, I really appreciate him, obviously,

00:36:04.640 going out of his way and stuff to meet me,

00:36:06.880 but I think that's the least he could do,

00:36:08.920 considering what's happened to all the girls across Manchester.

00:36:14.320 It is, it's me.

00:36:17.680 Nice to see you. Nice to see you.

00:36:19.880 It's a bit hot. It's all right, though.

00:36:23.880 Hi, you all right? Nice to see you.

00:36:26.880 Nice to see you. Nice to see you. You all right?

00:36:29.880 OK, do you all right? Yeah, I'm all right. I know.

00:36:32.880 You look great. Thank you.

00:36:34.880 So, Oldham, Rochdale and Tameside obviously have issues,

00:36:38.880 and I know Barry does as well.

00:36:40.880 Why does there seem to be so many paedophile gangs in Manchester,

00:36:44.880 do you think?

00:36:46.880 it's because this issue is just a huge issue in society um i'm afraid in the online kind of era

00:36:56.340 exploitation is happening everywhere in every place i know i'm not complacent um when i came

00:37:03.460 in as mayor i have to be honest with you and say greater manchester police simply did not have a

00:37:09.760 capability back then to deal with this gmp didn't just have a capability they had the wrong culture

00:37:16.100 as well because as you know you know there would be a way of dismissing but tim's not the mindset

00:37:22.080 was yeah the mindset was completely wrong um so so you could obviously watch you know the rest of

00:37:28.780 that but it's quite a interesting insight into you know something this i believe this was six

00:37:35.900 months ago yeah six months recent oh okay yeah so it shows obviously the rawness of this particular

00:37:43.780 issue and that burner has been questioned before um so there is caliber there and his immediate

00:37:50.120 response his immediate instinct was to try and kind of uh diffuse the seriousness of it specific

00:37:57.260 to manchester by just saying oh well this is a problem with all everywhere now that the internet

00:38:02.500 's around isn't it and it's like well that's not the question that's not the question that's not

00:38:06.540 the problem that we're talking about here exactly um there's another thing i wanted to bring up

00:38:10.980 before we'd obviously end um but another one is to do with obviously the barber and vape shops

00:38:15.440 um uh issue um where we're seeing obviously a rochdale in particular has a population of less

00:38:25.960 than 250 000 roughly but it's reported it has around 80 88 to 90 sorry yeah 88 to 90 barbershops

00:38:35.540 in areas like Eccles, for example,

00:38:37.900 Salford, have like

00:38:39.400 16 in one kind of small

00:38:41.440 zone. It's a lot of haircuts.

00:38:43.100 It's a lot of haircuts for

00:38:44.700 these. You've got to keep the fade trim, bro.

00:38:47.100 Of course. And same with

00:38:49.400 vape shops, where there

00:38:51.400 are reports of 51 vape shops on

00:38:53.400 just two streets.

00:38:55.620 Which is insane.

00:38:57.240 I had to really look that up.

00:38:58.880 There must be an awful lot of competition

00:39:00.920 down there. Well, if I

00:39:02.920 were to go back to my old libertarian theory,

00:39:04.780 I can only assume that they're all giving exceptional haircuts every one of them.

00:39:08.460 Absolutely.

00:39:08.680 They're great prices.

00:39:09.800 But that was another subject I should have mentioned earlier as well in the list,

00:39:14.440 because I had it on hair, but I thought I'd add to that.

00:39:17.700 But there's still, obviously, we've got until the 31st of July to really campaign on this.

00:39:24.640 You'll be seeing Marlon a lot very soon, I'm sure.

00:39:28.680 And I wanted to just make this segment just basically showcasing that

00:39:32.560 And of course, answering your questions, you know, to begin with, I, in my personal opinion, you know, I just want to say that I do I do like criticism.

00:39:41.780 It's very important. It's incredibly important. And you can only grow as not just people, but, you know, as a party as well, because we want to get it right.

00:39:51.840 You know, we do want to deliver. We do want to be able to to get into power and to fix things.

00:39:56.940 you know like we say the conservatives just want to conserve reform just want a little

00:40:02.260 reformation and just maybe tighten you know some few nuts and bolts or whatever

00:40:07.120 but we want to destroy the system basically and rebuild it um and we just we want to get it right

00:40:14.840 well thanks very much for answering all of our questions and um introducing us more to marlon

00:40:20.780 i'm looking forward to hearing some of those pledges once they've been announced

00:40:24.680 and developed properly we do have quite a few rumble rants so i will try and go through

00:40:29.800 a couple of them and then we're going to have to move on speedily to stelios's segment

00:40:34.540 and then my segment but i think that was worth taking some time to cover a lot of the subjects

00:40:39.460 that we did there sigil stone restore will have better chances if instead of saying i'd rather 0.72

00:40:44.680 be poorer without migrants reject their framing altogether and bring up that migrants make you

00:40:49.240 poorer never accept their framing yeah i i agree um to add that was a hypothetical question given 0.98

00:40:55.260 to charlie on lbc as well obviously we do reject that framing because mass migration has made us

00:41:01.100 poorer yes uh there are a couple that i will lump together here which is adeptus britannius

00:41:06.280 and heretican who both are asking about of course any sort of israeli influence on restore or any

00:41:15.300 sort of connection between people

00:41:17.280 like Marlon and some of the other members of

00:41:19.300 Restore with the nation of

00:41:21.280 Israel, stating that they have family members over there. 0.97

00:41:23.540 No. Alright. 0.62

00:41:25.660 Sigil Stone, why deny

00:41:27.080 ethno-nationalism so hard? It's literally what you want.

00:41:29.400 A nation for your ethnicity. You'll never 1.00

00:41:31.120 succeed if the left can make you back down from your

00:41:33.160 positions by being offended.

00:41:36.200 Sorry.

00:41:36.740 The question was, why deny

00:41:39.280 it so hard? I don't like the

00:41:41.300 term. Alright.

00:41:42.920 ramshackle otter i still have normie types bringing up the less english if not christian

00:41:48.600 stuff like stelios was saying uh back in february wasn't that long ago and it is off-putting to many

00:41:53.480 uh good to discuss and clarify so that was just a response to your answer so thank you very much

00:41:58.240 and uh one tall orders sorry fellas not watching live today as9100 auditors are coming to check

00:42:05.160 out to the machine shop well i hope the audit goes all right so and i hope you can uh catch

00:42:09.960 up later when you have the time thank you very much for the donation um just before i start

00:42:15.180 because i'm good at timekeeping i'm excellent at timekeeping how long do you think your segment's

00:42:21.440 going to be i can get through in like 10 minutes 15 minutes it's fine yeah we can also go over a

00:42:26.280 little saying just saying right i'll allow it we're gonna talk about new york and the u.s the

00:42:33.020 U.S. is going to vote for the midterms this fall. I believe it is this November. And they already

00:42:39.760 have some congressional primary elections and state primary elections. And they really show

00:42:46.060 some bad trends within the Democratic Party. Now, in this podcast, we have several times said

00:42:52.600 that the sort of dialectic, if you want, or the sort of tendency within the Democrat Party

00:43:00.040 is to completely turn its back on the moderates and embrace its extremists and occasionally you

00:43:08.160 will say well yeah but they're extremists for a while but now looks like things are a lot worse

00:43:14.540 than you may have thought they are turning their backs on the moderates of today to embrace even

00:43:21.900 more extremists right so let's see what happened here the moderates of today are bad enough already

00:43:26.680 yes and the extremists of today are worse they will be the moderates of tomorrow

00:43:33.220 let's hope not let's hope not i'm sorry this is why those are dialectic of history my watching

00:43:40.340 in the u.s take this into account right the dsa of the democratic socialists here says election

00:43:47.980 update socialists won i would like to say that this is fallacious but it isn't they did win

00:43:57.880 right so we have here all three mamdani-backed democrats they won the primaries and they

00:44:06.340 unseated the today's moderates of the democrat party now uh i mean therefore i am says here

00:44:14.040 the democratic party has been hijacked by anti-american communists i believe this has

00:44:19.440 happened a while ago but they are becoming more and more emboldened and we are gonna see this

00:44:26.620 a lot in the years to come and i just i hesitate to think how things are gonna be like in 10 years

00:44:33.600 from now or uh you know 16 years from now 20 years from now the trend isn't good right so here

00:44:42.740 Hakeem Jeffries is being asked, are you worried at all about the influence of the democratic

00:44:48.120 socialists in the primaries in New York and across the country? And he says, we're watching

00:44:52.740 closely. We'll see what happens. And he does seem a bit nervous. I would say that the last thing you

00:45:00.000 want, if you're sensible, to happen to your party is for extremists to take over. Because extremists

00:45:07.240 have a tendency of looking everywhere seeing traitors everywhere so you don't you don't want

00:45:14.160 that for yourself and your party if you're sensible but the question is of course are the

00:45:20.340 democrats sensible and have they parted with sensibility for some time ago in many issues

00:45:25.320 they have well my question is as well in a place like new york um are they are they really some

00:45:33.380 kind of extremist faction or are they some kind of uh controlled extremist faction because as

00:45:38.700 socialists surely in a financial hub and center somewhere that they would see as the heart of

00:45:44.560 inequality in america given the financial district and wall street and such i don't know this so

00:45:49.900 please feel free to answer if anybody has the answers to this have they actually made any moves

00:45:54.260 about restraining wall street within the city anything like that because because if they haven't

00:45:59.800 And if they are going to just take that off the table altogether, I can only see that Mamdani is a figurehead to act as a kind of release valve.

00:46:10.200 So he'll go up, he'll say all the good things that people want to hear. 0.51

00:46:14.060 He'll take from the white people of New York, but otherwise won't attack the heart of New York where the financial center is.

00:46:20.920 well i don't know if this is the optimistic scenario or not but it seems to me that

00:46:25.400 i'm personally i'm done with trying to give charitable interpretations of people like

00:46:31.640 mamdani well this is a charitable interpretation either one is bad i'm just well no because you

00:46:36.840 could say i mean it it would be a bit better if you know he was just a typical leftist who didn't

00:46:44.200 want uh communism or something or it's more like you know a social democrat or something

00:46:50.680 it's right i'm gonna give some money to the poor i'm gonna give some benefits here or there

00:46:54.840 but i don't want revolutionary violence i don't know maybe that would that would be a good case

00:47:01.160 scenario i hope that's true but at the end of the day i don't think we can know because this

00:47:06.920 we are talking about a massive block of of politicians some of them are definitely funded

00:47:13.240 from some lobbies but we don't know the extent of which this is the case but we do see the

00:47:18.600 tendency within the democrat party but also we do see the tendon what they are advocating for

00:47:24.680 and what they feel comfortable with saying out loud well i'm just i'm just thinking about uh when

00:47:29.800 aoc uh got into congress and she ran on this platform of radical socialism i'm gonna uh destroy

00:47:37.320 the the kind of like establishment democrats and then as soon as she gets into congress 1.00

00:47:41.640 she's whipped into shape by nancy pelosi and just becomes another part of the democrat machine 0.99

00:47:46.680 but obviously even then incrementally bit by bit even if they're whipped into the machine right now

00:47:52.200 it does over a long enough time periods to shift it further and further left even if not as left

00:47:57.320 as they would like to shift it right now perhaps aoc you know is on the is on the right wing of

00:48:02.200 the democrat party now maybe now maybe a centrist maybe a second let's not go too far right you

00:48:07.320 You might find as well that, you know, obviously trends of, you know, younger people are becoming, you know, way more radical from both sides.

00:48:15.560 So that's, it's obvious that, you know, it's going to shift, especially as it, you know, continues.

00:48:21.540 Yeah, but you can also say here that it is this radical, the failure to contain the radicals that made the Democrats lose the previous election in 2016.

00:48:33.700 because lots of moderate people would say well yeah i'm i'm kind of a cent centrist moderate

00:48:41.440 democrat but the democrats have lost their mind that's why i'm voting for trump because it's more

00:48:45.620 progressive yeah and trump was a 90s democrat wasn't he yeah he was a 90s democrat he was

00:48:50.960 friends with the clintons back in the day and and also i think yeah hillary clinton it was stuff

00:48:55.880 like the basket of deplorables comments yes just saying to the normal average moderate centrist 0.98

00:49:01.920 to type i hate you i despise you you're less work you're worth less than the dirt on my shoes

00:49:08.200 is not a positive message that will get people activated to vote for you yeah it's not it's not 0.99

00:49:13.980 a rest before disaster that's why i'm saying that when people on the right say well the democrats

00:49:18.940 did this let's do it as well yeah but the democrats did this and lost an election

00:49:23.380 right so we are gonna focus on three particular pieces of work

00:49:29.060 who who won and they're backed by mamdani and you are not gonna like this you are not gonna

00:49:38.160 like this i don't like this i'm sure those of you watching us from the u.s don't like this we have

00:49:43.460 love this i'm gonna i'm gonna be all all for this i too am for abolishing prisons

00:49:49.780 anakin meme insert here yeah is it the sand you have an issue with you're taking an issue with

00:49:58.580 not just the women that's just the men no i won't carry on

00:50:01.360 my anakin friend i hope the youngling survived right i'll show you aria lisa avila chevalier

00:50:10.340 ny13 abolish prison presence abolish ice abolish borders defund the police and all deportations

00:50:17.220 are wrong including for violent criminals she has called the u.s an effing disgrace and said in a

00:50:22.860 prior social media post i forgot to get napkins so i just wiped my hand on the american flag behind

00:50:28.360 me i will show you this people people like this should just be completely not only just well

00:50:32.680 banned from the country in the first place banned from they should be banned from running a a nursery

00:50:38.340 they should be banned from they should be banned from being maintaining an ant farm they have no 0.99

00:50:43.360 place in a society and especially a society that they absolutely despise yeah i mean pathetic 0.99

00:50:48.720 being able to i mean they do have the power to denaturalize and deport it's good if they

00:50:55.300 exercised it a bit yes clear valdez grant citizenship and voting right to illegal aliens

00:51:01.340 use taxpayer funds for transgender treatments and eliminate private health insurance brad lander

00:51:07.160 not lander from the north no no no connection not the guy who's still desperate for my follow 0.69

00:51:13.020 on twitter abolish ice forgive all cian loans um expand the supreme court mamdani gets a clean sweep

00:51:21.340 a bad night for hakeem jefferson big questions for whether for whether democrat party's headed

00:51:26.460 and we are going to talk about also another candidate whose name is abur kawas we are going

00:51:32.220 to get there right so mamdani backed brandlander says here that ice should be abolished i would say

00:51:39.960 that he is the least radical of the three i'm gonna talk about so you know abolish open borders

00:51:47.000 abolish ice abolish prisons that's like that's you know for a start everything just get rid of

00:51:52.020 everything i'm gonna say we're working with an exceptionally low bar here stellios yeah but

00:51:58.480 somehow they managed to to do it daria lisa a villa chevalier she has the defund the police

00:52:06.600 covid mask there no more police at all ever we're gonna defund and abolish and this is

00:52:13.580 this is just childish wish making yeah but the point is that there are some people who can't

00:52:19.280 tell the difference between fantasy and reality and occasionally they get themselves elected in

00:52:26.240 positions and the problem with this is that they want primaries now within the democratic party

00:52:31.260 but new york is a blue state i don't see this changing in the midterms so for all you know 0.96

00:52:38.560 for worse or worse she's gonna make it to congress right so she writes here no it means

00:52:45.340 ending policing full stop period no claps more police at all ever it's very harmful to the work

00:52:53.200 black abolitionists have been doing for decades to dilute this movement if you're not fully on board

00:52:59.760 yet it's fine to just say that f you we're gonna defund and abolish you don't get to water down 0.51

00:53:06.540 her movements so yeah she has this radical thing an insane ideologue right so here she says 1.00

00:53:13.000 she forgot to get napkins so she just wiped her hand on the american flag 0.93

00:53:18.580 i mean i get offended and i'm not an american i just don't like people doing that when there

00:53:25.440 are people who hate you running and it's

00:53:27.440 only the people who also hate you

00:53:29.220 voting for them and they

00:53:31.220 I don't see any sort of like historic

00:53:33.220 connection with any of these people and

00:53:35.420 those who established the country in the first place

00:53:37.560 and fought and bled for it

00:53:39.340 and made it what it is right now maybe

00:53:41.420 they shouldn't be there

00:53:43.040 yes maybe they just shouldn't be 0.88

00:53:45.500 in your country if if they're gonna invite

00:53:47.600 themselves in or be invited in

00:53:49.420 by hostile governments

00:53:50.740 and then try and steal everything from

00:53:53.520 you maybe they just shouldn't be there

00:53:55.340 exactly and that's a major challenge that people who are sensible will have in the future if any

00:54:03.680 sensible government builds less than the left destroys destruction is a matter of time here we

00:54:10.980 see her talking about her conversion to islam it took four years she was fasting for two years but

00:54:17.220 they they told her that she needs to carry on and she said that she's really happy well she needs

00:54:23.460 to carry on fasting just a few more pounds love and then we'll let you in and she said here that

00:54:29.000 she is very much she feels at home oh in islam because islam has a love of social justice and

00:54:38.720 she mentioned how muslims love social justice i mean have you read that i haven't read i mean is

00:54:45.100 it she's reading this why do you doubt this lewis um are you doubting this no no no are you gonna

00:54:51.300 be like uh doubting thomas here yeah i think lewis no no no doubting lewis get a meme made

00:54:58.780 of that okay so drew pavlo has a good post here because now we go to abir kawas

00:55:04.160 who thinks that the major issue for new york is drum roll drum roll drum roll palestine

00:55:14.900 so drew pavlo says centrists will say immigration is fine so long as people assimilate and share

00:55:20.740 values. They don't want to actually deport people who refuse to assimilate because that would be

00:55:25.840 mean. So the U.S. now has foreign elected representatives who defend 9-11. It's as 0.81

00:55:32.160 simple as that. You can't accept being completely overrun by emotions and emotion, you know, what

00:55:39.720 is mean or something. Reality, sadly, is tragic. You can't have everyone happy. I think people with

00:55:45.660 double digit iq find this out about uh you know teenage when they enter teenage years you can't

00:55:54.060 have everyone happy sadly politics is one of the areas where you can't have everyone happy the more

00:56:00.660 i've learned that i've learned that well anyone who's ever done work in primary school should

00:56:05.500 have figured that out by now yes uh so sadly everyone will be mean to some people it's not

00:56:13.700 a question of if you're going to be a meanie. The question is to what degree you're a meanie and to

00:56:18.440 whom. As simple as that. So a lot of people who are moderates, they just really have this sense of

00:56:26.340 I don't want to be mean. I don't want to be mean. I don't want to be mean because I don't want to

00:56:29.980 support policies that are going to be mean to people. Well, if they don't enact these policies

00:56:37.240 and support them the adverse effects that make these policies necessary will continue and they

00:56:46.540 are gonna bring forth really bad effects and consequences to other people and then the

00:56:51.780 moderates are gonna say well yeah but at least it wasn't something i chose so i can have my

00:56:57.260 conscience clean while my country gets destroyed and burned to the ground after the point of no

00:57:04.420 return hopefully that's not going to be the future right so let's hear what she says here

00:57:09.820 about the system of capitalism racist white supremacy and islamophobia i want you to enjoy

00:57:15.860 um and so like and finding that like you know the system of capitalism and racism

00:57:22.860 and white supremacy etc have all and islamophobia have all been used um you know to uh colonize

00:57:32.260 lands right to take resources from other people and so this is like a long trajectory and we're

00:57:36.900 just seeing the manifestations of that continuation right with 9-11 um and so a lot of times when

00:57:43.120 people are asking us to respond about you know attack right when if you look back like historically

00:57:49.600 right um you know a lot of us come from lands that were colonized lands where wars are being

00:57:54.260 waged right a lot of times because of u.s policy or the policies in europe and so um i find that

00:58:00.700 we can connect over that but then also that um the idea that we have to apologize for like a

00:58:06.520 terror attack that like a couple people did and then there is no apologies or reparations for

00:58:11.460 genocides and for slavery um etc is something that i kind of find like reprehensible right so

00:58:17.580 right so she thinks that she doesn't have to apologize for terrorists which as she say

00:58:25.460 are isolated incidents basically they don't they're just acts of a few individuals

00:58:30.620 because slavery right i got news for you lady arab slave trade are you going to talk about this

00:58:39.260 i thought so crickets right but the point that's the point that's the problem about double digit

00:58:46.960 iqs a moment ago study us i don't think we've quite reached that just yet in this case yeah

00:58:52.040 but there is also the question of evil people we are obviously confronted with some people with

00:58:57.220 double digit iq or we could make a case for negative iq with some people or zero iq i don't

00:59:02.720 know and when you speak of evil as well i'm just going to say when when you have a um a woman in

00:59:08.680 a bureaucratic position of power who approaches you with this face you're about to be assaulted 0.99

00:59:14.720 with some of the most evil shit that you've ever heard in your entire life frankly yeah 0.99

00:59:20.740 Right. The issue here is that there is a clear tendency within the Democrat Party, and the Democratic Socialists now are taking over slowly but steadily, of trying to foster or take advantage of a sentiment that Roger Scruton talked about, and also my friend Benedict Beckel, who I've interviewed for here, is talking about, called ecophobia. 0.99

00:59:45.640 so what they're trying to capitalize upon is the sentiment of several westerners to feel guilty

00:59:53.840 about the history of the west and in doing so they neglect and i'm talking here about the useful 0.98

01:00:01.300 idiots i'm not talking about the people who are doing it on purpose because they are beyond 0.99

01:00:05.260 salvation yeah i don't think they can be saved sorry um but uh what happens is that they refuse 1.00

01:00:12.040 to see that other cultures have also a past that isn't exactly a bed of roses. And again,

01:00:22.740 I'll mention to her the Arab slave trade. It existed. So why talk about just slavery in the

01:00:30.600 West and completely ignore the Arab slave trade? Why talk about colonialism from Western forces

01:00:37.280 and completely ignore colonialism from eastern forces i can tell you there has been colonialism 1.00

01:00:44.640 from eastern forces the persians started it all right and as agreed he has yeah he has the right

01:00:51.780 to complain about this okay but after that it's okay the persians are okay i i don't have an

01:00:57.340 issue with the persians honestly yeah but after that there have been other eastern colonizers

01:01:02.560 are you going to talk about that lady i don't think you will so i mean all of north africa

01:01:08.540 there's all of north africa but she's not going to talk about that because complaining about our

01:01:12.900 colonialism is an attack on us and she doesn't want to attack on her so she'll just ignore and 0.99

01:01:16.960 the stupid westerners who are voting for mom donnie yes why is her face so pale in this is 1.00

01:01:23.080 she wearing clown makeup that's so weird look it's like not as not as pale around her eyes 1.00

01:01:28.400 what's going on there no idea but uh here she the nyc dsa says aber wins palestine was on the ballot

01:01:36.160 and now palestinian american democratic socialist is going to albany she's exactly who new yorkers

01:01:42.720 need fighting for them in the state senate because socialists get it done no um i don't know that we

01:01:49.880 are talking about new york and congress right uh she um we also have this article here again i mean

01:01:59.720 you you would expect it i'm cautious a bit of time you would expect this from her constantly

01:02:05.500 talking about palestine and israel always talking about the middle east right um here she is calling

01:02:13.880 for according to the hamas according to the top of that it said like she's calling for like all

01:02:20.640 jews to leave new york or something yes also the other one was saying the um who was the other lady

01:02:27.080 that was the statement this lady was saying that she's the only one who wasn't funded from apac

01:02:31.500 um they have this rhetoric also we have to say this because you know this does happen there are

01:02:39.240 lots of progressive jews who voted for mamdani they ran his campaign yeah so that's they were

01:02:45.480 his campaign managers you can look at articles on the forward about it so one question to them is

01:02:49.720 what would you think would happen that's the question right well i think i think part of it

01:02:58.820 is that they just that they're just hoping that these people given that they kind of owe them

01:03:03.900 will leave them alone yeah here she's talking again about she's also the child of illegal

01:03:10.280 migrants to the u.s she wants to abolish ice and she just won in the in the new york district 12

01:03:17.520 one thing i want to say and i think i'll i'll end here in order to go to the next segment

01:03:22.020 one thing people forget is that communism is still a threat in online circles this is considered to

01:03:30.180 be sort of obsolete we've heard you tell you as you've said it's traditional and cold war

01:03:36.020 anti-communism we're aboard of it no you should it's it doesn't matter with your border of it or

01:03:41.280 not it's an existing threat but there are some differences and these differences can be seen

01:03:46.980 throughout the u.s and western europe and also i'll say that you can see this here in the blairite

01:03:53.160 paradigm let me just say we frequently talk about the old marxism that focused on the proletariat

01:03:58.960 the industrial workers and pitted them against the capitalists and the bourgeois. And then in

01:04:04.860 the 60s, the working class started having second thoughts. And basically, Lenin was correct in 1.00

01:04:14.100 saying that if the workers are left alone, they aren't going to keep, they aren't going to develop

01:04:21.000 a communist consciousness, as the communists want them. They're going to develop, at best,

01:04:27.440 a syndicalist consciousness. That's why Lenin was calling for what he thought the necessity

01:04:33.640 of the vanguard party. And with Gramsci and the neo-Marxists, we have the very bad shift of focus

01:04:43.280 from the proletariats, from the industrial workers and the working class to the universities. So the

01:04:49.360 left yes has colonized universities but the universities now are in the west don't have the

01:04:57.200 numbers so they're focusing now globally even more so and they think that the universe the

01:05:04.200 revolutionary potential isn't just the people in the universities it's the third world so what

01:05:11.560 we are looking at here is communism under a new manifestation it's again the oppressor versus

01:05:20.100 oppressed paradigm and ironically it's lots of some champagne socialists in the west trying to

01:05:28.000 placate third the third world and speak for open borders demonizing deportation and they are saying

01:05:35.840 that social justice now is global social justice.

01:05:42.480 And by implication, this means that

01:05:44.180 when they're saying that they should tax the rich

01:05:46.580 to give to the poor,

01:05:48.140 they mean globally rich to give to the global poor.

01:05:50.940 So we have Western champagne socialists

01:05:53.840 teaming up with countries outside the West

01:05:57.680 against everyone in the West.

01:05:59.700 Because let's not forget that in global standards, 0.99

01:06:02.920 lots of people from the working class

01:06:05.300 in the west count as globally rich according to the left's standards yes comparatively there are

01:06:12.360 lots and lots and lots of countries where the annual annual salary uh well the annual wage

01:06:18.620 that you get is like is dirt poor yeah it's dirt poor so when you look at it on that global

01:06:23.640 perspective what they were kind of arguing for is a form of global welfare socialism because i saw

01:06:29.020 this explained quite nicely recently the difference between you know welfare socialism which is what

01:06:33.100 we have a lot in the northwest of europe and in parts of america uh versus industrial socialism

01:06:38.460 which is what the ussr had and they basically and the problem with both of them is but especially

01:06:43.300 with welfare socialism because it's like anti-productive it's it's it's anti is anti

01:06:49.440 productivity anti-development is that somebody's got to foot the bill it is and the disaster is

01:06:56.020 when it is combined with open borders because that is when you have lots of that is when you

01:07:01.900 have lots of people saying that we will tax the rich the globally rich who are um in in which

01:07:12.120 category the working classes of western countries are included in order to give benefits to everyone

01:07:17.960 else even the poor so the last thing i'm gonna say to conclude this segment is sensible governments

01:07:25.880 mass build more than the left destroys because the left will keep trying to destroy

01:07:30.460 all right then let's go on to uh my segment but first uh we've got a couple of rumble rants if

01:07:37.840 you want to check some out and read through some of them stelios right that's a random name i i

01:07:42.120 think yeah that's a fed post that's a random name says that he wants to be mean

01:07:51.800 um 141 paladin asks if he can hate the banking client and the people from and the sand people

01:08:02.700 yeah from the desert at the same time logo seven i would say an answer to that uh you can just be

01:08:08.420 indifferent to anybody who's not on your side explicitly that's that's the best way to be you

01:08:13.320 don't have to involve yourself in anybody else's conflicts logan 17 pine wall street is leaving to

01:08:19.600 flee to texas like seattle and los angeles all other major companies are now leaving to texas

01:08:24.900 i have i was not aware of that one of my very good friends is from texas oh yes yes and he

01:08:31.280 tells me texans have a massive love of comparing everything to texans texas size that makes sense

01:08:39.700 even just through culture i i've kind of have that vibe yes uh 40 and baba says brother stelio starts

01:08:45.480 with you're not going to like this it's going to be a banger that's all of your segments yes sigil

01:08:51.580 stone 17 oddly enough they've made no moves against wall street or the banks in any way we

01:08:57.000 are that so that seems to be contradictory with the person who said that they're wall street's

01:09:01.160 moving to texas so i think i think it's worth looking into just in general is wall street

01:09:05.720 experiencing an exodus under mamdani lucky lunder anti-whitism seems to be impacting the uk the most

01:09:12.640 unfortunately to combat it we must call it out for what it is not communism not wokeism but

01:09:18.940 anti-whiteism it cuts through the bs i think that anti-whiteism in this case the wokeism of it is

01:09:25.860 a part and parcel of this communist idea it has been for a long time especially if you bear in

01:09:33.300 mind how communism has been sold in africa and there's just phallus of malice as well that's a

01:09:41.020 great playing assassin's creed odyssey while i'm listening to the podcast in stelius's honor i 0.92

01:09:46.520 will sail to mykonos and butcher some athenian scum right but i thought you are athenian aren't 0.70

01:09:52.380 you i am athenian yeah just in stelius's honor maybe you know it's okay but one thing to say 0.98

01:10:01.380 i'm not that much of a fan of mykonos it's it's an island that fosters lots of degeneracy

01:10:08.840 it's a beautiful island oh i'm sure but it's you know it's one of the most also it's crazily

01:10:14.040 expensive i'll be going to mount athos this year god willing you may meet putin there you know

01:10:19.840 really i would like to go to greece at some point when you want to join tell me so we're going to

01:10:27.380 be there and i'm going to show you around we could all have a lads holiday lads holiday

01:10:32.820 you have to go to a monastery for at least a couple of days maybe you could keep that afterwards

01:10:39.320 we have to go to work lewis that's a good point you know give me chastity but not yet

01:10:46.440 carl's wondering where the daily videos are lewis gotta get going anyway so something a little bit

01:10:52.900 more light-hearted to end us out on so uh does everybody remember like god it's going on 15 16

01:11:00.300 years ago now when doctor who was an actual cultural phenomenon not just in britain but in

01:11:05.360 the world when the conservatives were going on about how we we had the second greatest soft power

01:11:11.040 in all the world part of that back in the day was due to the influence of things like doctor who

01:11:16.340 exported to primarily america because you remember the early 2010s doctor who was part of this kind

01:11:23.340 of new british invasion going on where all of a sudden loads of americans loved british culture

01:11:29.820 and wanted to emulate it

01:11:30.900 because they were trying to copy

01:11:32.040 what they'd seen on Doctor Who

01:11:33.300 and BBC Sherlock as well.

01:11:35.920 And the Mighty have quite...

01:11:40.260 Fallen?

01:11:41.180 Yeah, they've fallen quite starkly here

01:11:44.340 because, well, Doctor Who just a few weeks ago

01:11:47.000 announced an update on plans for the future

01:11:49.560 of the television programme,

01:11:51.120 this show that once was a cultural ambassador

01:11:54.400 for Britain.

01:11:56.760 And I've always had my problems with it

01:11:59.300 ever since the end of the initial Russell T. Davis run with David Tennant

01:12:04.220 and when it got onto the Matt Smith stuff.

01:12:05.920 But, you know, it was kind of like a family program

01:12:08.500 that had some scary moments for the kids

01:12:10.700 where you could all enjoy it and watch some interesting high-concept sci-fi stuff.

01:12:17.280 It did have a lot of preaching, even going back to the 1960s,

01:12:20.600 but it was something that you could enjoy for the whole family.

01:12:22.960 Well, what's going on with it now?

01:12:24.620 Well, it's been put out to tender,

01:12:26.760 which is the bbc's term for we're not doing anything with it right now and russell t davis

01:12:32.860 who brought the show back to begin with uh has also left the show again and bad wolf his production

01:12:39.960 company are not involved and they have cancelled a previously announced doctor who christmas

01:12:45.680 episode which was until now seen as the holdover thing to keep it going until 2028 2029 when they

01:12:53.320 eventually bring it back so the whole thing has completely collapsed under its own arse and they've

01:13:00.440 got some nice corpo speech saying that uh this decision was not taken lightly and we know it

01:13:05.660 will be disappointing for fans but in order to set the show up for future series it was decided that

01:13:11.220 rather than bridge the gap with a one-off special we're choosing to push forward to invest in the

01:13:16.380 long-term future of the show which ensures that when the tardis lands once more it does so in all

01:13:22.260 of its glory which is some amazing corpo speech for this was a utter failure nobody liked this

01:13:30.800 nobody watched it it's a complete waste of money they had a disney agreement as well that was

01:13:36.500 pumping funds into the production of the last two series which russell t davis helmed they brought

01:13:41.980 back david tennant and the ginger girl donna as his companion to try and bring some of the nostalgia

01:13:49.220 of viewers back in place oh my god russell t davis is back donna is back all of the stuff that i love

01:13:55.540 from my childhood is back and it was so bad it drove them all off within two years because of

01:14:01.540 course then they had shooty gatwa the scottishman the scotsman playing the doctor scotsman notoriously

01:14:11.780 mainly born in rwanda as far as i'm aware oh russell t davis you know he said that he was

01:14:19.300 uh saying goodbye and he posted this on his instagram oh so goodbye to from me to doctor

01:14:25.220 who but hello to a big new future for the show you know trying to put a positive spin on it

01:14:29.160 even though you drove it into the ground the last view that most people have seen of the doctor's

01:14:34.600 uh tardis is this post that russell t davis himself who is a gay man posting happy birthday

01:14:40.740 oliver to his twink boyfriend brilliant because that is what the bbc production sets are used for

01:14:47.960 now in a similar way to the uh to congress in america from some videos that got shared around

01:14:53.700 online last year variety posted an article two years ago talking about the amazing new diversity

01:15:03.200 of the cast of characters that were being featured in the show because you've got to ask

01:15:07.340 well you know they brought back all of this talent they brought in all of these very very

01:15:11.760 exceptionally gifted writers and production crew how did the show fail how did it go from sailing

01:15:18.820 at the top of the world to crashing and burning so quickly well this was one of the new villains

01:15:26.140 doctor who star jinx monsoon a former rupaul's drag race star unpacks maestro the series wackiest

01:15:36.100 most musical villain yet being asked who are your inspirations for maestro and answering

01:15:41.900 i didn't have to do any disney villain research because that's just ingrained in me as a drag

01:15:47.360 queen as a queer person hell of an admission to make hell of an admission i'm queer so i might

01:15:54.160 as well already be an evil disney villain you said it and not me all right uh don't accept any 0.97

01:16:02.320 apples that this person may offer to you shooty gat was here's the question new doctor has

01:16:07.460 unfortunately faced a barrage of racist homophobic backlash to his casting do you have a message for

01:16:14.620 these online trolls to which jinx monsoon responds i used to try to find diplomatic ways to talk

01:16:21.960 about this and now truly how i feel is who gives an f what bigots think a more optimistic and

01:16:28.460 idealistic way of looking at this is that the popular opinion is not on their side numbers are

01:16:34.360 not shrinking for every transphobic racist bigoted doctor who fan that we lose this season there are

01:16:40.620 going to be three to five new fans who are coming in for the representation that's right which is

01:16:46.680 why the show was such a complete success that they cancelled it they that's essentially what

01:16:52.760 being put out to tender is is basically cancelled for the time being that is well deserved but

01:16:58.300 Harry, that's just an interview.

01:16:59.600 You can't just go off the back of one interview

01:17:01.760 and one wacky background, one wacky villain.

01:17:05.580 So surely you've got some clips from the show to show us, right?

01:17:08.860 Okay, and I do actually.

01:17:10.520 Somebody happily put together a compilation

01:17:12.080 of some of the more recent stories

01:17:14.920 under the helm of Russell T. Davis

01:17:18.140 and put together what I can only describe

01:17:21.160 as David Tennant's personal humiliation fetish compilation. 0.54

01:17:25.520 Yes, the meep.

01:17:26.600 I promise I can help him get home

01:17:27.740 and then you'll never see me again you're assuming he as a pronoun that that person who said that

01:17:32.560 is supposedly the character of donna's trans child by the way true yes sorry good point are you he

01:17:41.000 or she or they we are binary she's not because the doctors and neither and more the crisis might

01:17:52.040 have slowed down but that thing is wrapped around your cortex yes we know we know everything

01:17:57.720 And you know nothing 0.98

01:17:59.640 It's a shame you're not a woman anymore 1.00

01:18:01.680 We've got all that power 1.00

01:18:04.480 But there is a way to get rid of it 1.00

01:18:06.600 Something a male presenting 0.80

01:18:08.600 Time Lord will never understand 0.99

01:18:10.340 What a minute

01:18:12.980 What?

01:18:14.700 That was just pure like

01:18:16.520 That was like

01:18:18.560 Woke scolding to a degree

01:18:20.720 That I've not seen in a long time

01:18:23.060 Openly hating

01:18:24.080 You bring back David Tennant for the nostalgia books

01:18:27.540 Off of the back of Jodie Whittaker, a notoriously poorly received doctor, and then immediately begin humiliating and insulting him.

01:18:35.580 Yeah, I'm sure- No, I can't believe this didn't go over well.

01:18:39.060 Oh, here's an affluent one.

01:18:50.540 Oh yeah, here's that one.

01:18:57.540 nice to see you again kiddo you know each other that's my daddy 0.96

01:19:04.260 what is going on yeah what is going on yeah that was that shooty gat were the uh the latest doctor

01:19:16.420 um yeah so i haven't watched do you know the last episode of doctor who i watched

01:19:21.940 was the the child with the gas mask on and saying you know it was scary 21 years ago

01:19:29.060 that was a that was a good episode to be fair last doctor who i ever watched and it's gone

01:19:34.580 from that to this yeah um i mean this is just that 21 years ago yeah that was 2005 that was

01:19:42.820 christopher eccleston's doctor that was six doctors ago now and that was the last time i

01:19:48.440 and the guy running that series in 2005 was the same guy running these series as well right so

01:19:55.000 that's just how far we've degenerated since then yeah that's just like woke fatigue there were

01:20:03.640 stelios has just died a little bit inside no you're normally supposed to do this to me with

01:20:07.880 your segments just one supposed to be laughing just like literally yeah but i mean it's my last

01:20:13.000 Last day before my summer vacations.

01:20:15.080 And I'm torturing you on it.

01:20:16.440 That's right.

01:20:17.500 Just one...

01:20:18.160 I'll cut...

01:20:18.520 You know, revenge is a dish mess of cold.

01:20:22.680 He's going to get me back, folks.

01:20:24.160 He's going to get me.

01:20:25.600 But yeah, one minute of New Doctor Who was enough to get you standing on the ledge of

01:20:29.720 the bridge looking down wistfully.

01:20:32.420 There could be an end to it, he thinks to himself.

01:20:35.180 Yeah, that's all awful.

01:20:36.700 Everybody hated that. 0.93

01:20:38.340 And it was done explicitly, basically, to appeal to the pink news crowd. 0.94

01:20:42.840 who would have thought that they wouldn't be the most

01:20:44.740 dedicated and loyal of viewers

01:20:46.320 with articles like this where

01:20:48.360 this person goes on to

01:20:50.720 extol the virtues of having

01:20:52.660 the show be all about people

01:20:54.700 like

01:20:55.200 whatever this is supposed to be

01:20:58.400 and insulting old fans to their face

01:21:00.900 they also ended the

01:21:02.780 show by having the Doctor

01:21:04.460 Shuti Gatwa

01:21:05.660 legendarily unsuccessful series

01:21:08.900 now, regenerate

01:21:10.540 into Billy Piper

01:21:12.300 a former companion

01:21:14.780 and then it's just done

01:21:16.120 really? so she just had a cameo

01:21:19.240 well the doctor regenerated 1.00

01:21:21.320 into Rose Tyler

01:21:22.400 and then

01:21:24.060 it's just cancelled now

01:21:27.080 take me back 21 years ago

01:21:28.520 this is all done now

01:21:30.760 you've got people like Peter Capaldi

01:21:33.340 coming out to defend it and say

01:21:35.140 you know oh god well

01:21:36.340 it'll be back better than ever

01:21:38.480 I hope not

01:21:41.260 this time can it just stay cancelled for good

01:21:43.800 please

01:21:44.580 there were a few good years of

01:21:47.640 New Who to begin with when you got

01:21:49.200 good episodes like that one written by Stephen

01:21:51.660 Moffat but then Stephen Moffat took over

01:21:53.780 the show and it's just plunged

01:21:55.140 it's just plunged since then

01:21:57.480 Christopher Eccleston's been asked if he would

01:21:59.780 ever return

01:22:01.640 to the show because people keep asking him this

01:22:03.700 21 years later and he basically

01:22:05.820 said yeah I would if you fired

01:22:07.780 the entirety of the BBC staff

01:22:09.720 their play that's based you know what actually actually based no is he not no of course of

01:22:14.580 course he isn't but i do agree this is a nugget this is one thing that we both agree on yes and

01:22:21.160 there have been reports from inside of the bbc from richard osman of all people basically saying

01:22:27.660 that it was cancelled to avoid russell t davis delivering a christmas shaped bomb what a well

01:22:34.580 I assume, just like the worst Christmas episode ever.

01:22:37.780 I was confused there.

01:22:38.640 So it was basically just like taken out behind the shed

01:22:40.680 and put out of its misery.

01:22:42.100 So this is what happens in today's culture

01:22:45.560 where nobody is allowed to make things good anymore

01:22:48.440 and nobody good is allowed to work on things anymore

01:22:51.220 unless you are some kind of rising YouTube star

01:22:54.960 with a million dollars

01:22:56.200 and make yourself a little indie film that takes off.

01:22:58.340 Because I did see Obsession over the weekend,

01:23:01.000 you know, that film that people have been going on about?

01:23:02.940 Fantastic.

01:23:03.600 Really?

01:23:03.800 genuinely a really good film so this is just speaking to the way in which mainstream productions

01:23:09.840 like doctor who that had so much cultural cachet only 15 years ago have been have been burnt to

01:23:17.280 the ground by the people running them indulging in their own personal woke identitarian politics

01:23:24.560 i just want to add as well um i reckon we plateaued in around 2009 maybe 2010 because

01:23:32.220 all i seem to see is remakes remasters with the chasing the nostalgia route as opposed to

01:23:39.340 coming up with something brand new you know you you go through the catalogue of movies and series

01:23:44.320 from 80s 90s 2000s and so many bangers so many great shows from twin peaks to yep uh you went

01:23:54.220 straight you went straight for me you knew i'd respond to that yeah yeah um from that to go from

01:24:00.080 like these huge professional production companies where you've got a writer's room of like 10 or 12

01:24:05.380 really talented people yes writing 24 scripts and a production team that works all year round yes to

01:24:12.680 produce really high quality productions at 24 episodes a season which is just unthinkable

01:24:20.260 today when you get shows that can't even release one series of eight episodes per year anymore and

01:24:27.800 i and i i've debated my friends outside of politics about this and they just say well no it's a

01:24:34.140 generational thing you get to a certain age and then you you suddenly think the same thing you

01:24:38.460 know boom boomers were saying this you know in the 90s we can measure the decline but we can

01:24:43.020 measure it now exactly we can literally measure the decline and you can also measure the decline 0.92

01:24:47.520 by just looking at the pictures of production staff these days yes it's like well talented

01:24:52.560 white guys aren't allowed into the mainstream media business anymore and so they have to go

01:24:57.260 off and do stuff in the indies instead and then the indies take off they get co-opted into the 0.99

01:25:01.880 mainstream and forced to make shite yeah yeah that is that is the cycle hopefully we'll be 0.99

01:25:06.680 nearing the end of it and doctor doctor who i'm glad you're dead stay buried this time 0.98

01:25:11.120 and i'll get on to a couple of the rumble rants see that was a nice quick one some good news

01:25:16.840 everybody random name they should bring doctor who back by having an eid special oh my god where 0.67

01:25:23.580 the doctor goes back to ancient e-dip egypt e-dip e-dip shut up lewis right shut up uh ancient 0.56

01:25:34.340 egypt and prevents the exodus oh my god um that's a random name here's my advice for lewis and

01:25:41.060 restore uh we can start restoring britain before ever being in government by rejecting the system's

01:25:45.660 framing focus on wanted unwanted immigration rather than legal illegal uh that's an that's

01:25:52.360 an interesting bit of advice sigil stone doctor who and star trek dead star wars bloated corpse

01:25:57.440 the the the lack the way that they tanked star wars after 11 years people complained about the

01:26:03.560 prequels which are masterpieces and can't be denied at this point frankly um but people

01:26:08.180 complained about the prequels but i don't think star wars was ever as much on a cultural high as

01:26:12.740 it was around that revenge of the sith yeah yeah i agree although see i'm a bit of a strange uh

01:26:18.620 anonymously i actually really like phantom menace i love that i think i think it's one of the i love

01:26:24.000 the prequels yeah i prefer the prequels to the originals which is just the objectively correct

01:26:28.520 position their play i disagree with you here you're objectively wrong no you are objective 0.83

01:26:33.640 this is fun i i disagree with those who say that the prequels are shit i think that's good but i 0.87

01:26:43.380 just prefer the OG. Oh okay 0.62

01:26:45.160 that's a fair enough take you know

01:26:47.420 it's edging on correct. Also I don't

01:26:49.540 have such an issue with Jar Jar Binks 0.70

01:26:51.620 neither do I. I like

01:26:53.400 two hours about a trade

01:26:55.340 dispute I like that

01:26:56.660 I enjoy that. Jar Jar Binks was very prescient

01:26:59.200 yes I really like that. He certainly was but

01:27:01.320 the fact that they were able to in like 11

01:27:03.220 years tank it where Force Awakens

01:27:05.500 was the biggest cinema

01:27:07.220 event of the 2010s and

01:27:09.200 now they can release a whole new film

01:27:11.360 yeah and nobody cares nobody cares in the cinemas nobody cares meanwhile stargate fans are trying

01:27:16.460 to beat amazon into making the show they greenlit then cancelled it's hard out here for a pimp well

01:27:21.760 that's dead as well that's true pimping ain't easy sigil stone lotus eaters media productions

01:27:26.420 presents a new sci-fi series dr bow and amazon cancelled stargate because it would have appealed 0.96

01:27:31.680 too much to its dedicated fan base i shit you not which is basically the same reason that henry 0.53

01:27:36.060 cavill left the witcher series because he tried to make it too appealing to fans of the books and 0.89

01:27:40.440 games yeah let's go on with the video comments nobody likes me nobody wants to be my friend

01:27:48.920 well i don't want to be friends with any of you again never ever has been about putting the

01:27:56.240 country i love first that is why i will resign as leader of the labor party i have spoken to

01:28:05.360 his majesty the king this morning to inform him of my decision be careful what you wish for like

01:28:11.960 the monkey's paw curls another thing yeah simpsons as andy burnham comes in and immediately is

01:28:18.740 talking about how he wants to ilr yeah uh get rid of the shabana mahoud ilr reforms which by the

01:28:25.340 sounds of it were basically just like a purely budgetary thing of holy crap if we have to owe

01:28:31.260 all of these people benefits it'll tank the system immediately we need to push this back

01:28:35.360 and preferably get them out so that we don't have to deal with this the best case scenario is burnham

01:28:41.460 goes in tries to do that and then the obr and other financial institutions and uh and the civil

01:28:48.120 service just absolutely beat him over the head but if he goes rogue and does it anyway uh then

01:28:56.860 we're just going to face total system collapse yeah so you know couple of years yeah yeah let's

01:29:04.320 go on to the next one july is soon to be somalian heritage month here in canada which confused me

01:29:08.720 greatly but i think i figured out why firstly it's just basic counter signaling to the nick

01:29:12.220 shirley affair down in minnesota but this contains and achieves some subsidiary goals as well firstly

01:29:16.740 it's to make taboo value judgments against any identifiable group if you can't make value

01:29:20.340 judgments against people are perpetuating an industrial scale fraud there's not many groups

01:29:23.780 against whom you can, displaying to everyone that they'll guard the progressive stack no

01:29:27.220 matter how offensively any of their clients might behave.

01:29:29.860 And finally, and most importantly, I think they're signaling their continued dedication

01:29:32.860 to the vast money laundering project of government programs, NGOs, and clientelism.

01:29:37.340 And I take this to mean that the same rackets are being run here in Canada.

01:29:41.700 I was wondering if that was part of an engine.

01:29:44.100 Yeah, it looks very nice.

01:29:46.100 But yeah, the same problems faced in America are faced everywhere else as well because

01:29:50.160 the whole thing is just a gigantic Ponzi scheme which is all government has been since about 1945.

01:29:57.200 And now another white pill moment with Sakura.

01:30:01.120 Sakura as you can tell is a little concerned when many commentators on the British right,

01:30:07.920 apparently not the lotus eaters though, point out that we need to unite the right.

01:30:13.040 We'll unite the right around who?

01:30:16.600 Nigel Farage?

01:30:18.260 The man who runs away the moment anyone pushes back?

01:30:21.480 Or should we unite around Rupert Lowe?

01:30:24.040 Who when they say, you're with a racist, he says, and I don't care.

01:30:30.920 Yeah, I had someone in my branch meeting who I believe was an infiltrator.

01:30:38.120 You've got to watch out for them.

01:30:39.540 yes and um he started saying you need to start uniting with the tories and reform you need to

01:30:47.620 start doing this doing that and i said what the people who tried to put rupert in prison

01:30:52.260 you're talking about those guys you want you want us to unite with them the uni party

01:30:56.860 now you're right mate their answer yeah i've just had to um step outside for five minutes

01:31:06.760 after that announcement

01:31:07.820 because I'm 40, I'm an OB

01:31:11.680 and in the first 20 years of my life

01:31:14.880 I saw three Prime Ministers

01:31:16.120 Margaret Thatcher, John Major, Tony Blair

01:31:18.720 and in the subsequent 20 years, seven

01:31:22.980 and we're about to have an eighth

01:31:25.240 Yeah, it's mad, isn't it?

01:31:26.880 The country's run through 0.93

01:31:27.760 No serious man's going to take her on now

01:31:31.400 Yeah, well it just goes to show

01:31:35.020 that the machinery of government just keeps on chugging away but what they're doing is so

01:31:39.900 unpopular they just can never actually keep a face as a figurehead to represent it and if any

01:31:46.300 of those figureheads start to get ideas of their own liz truss for example potentially even burnham 0.99

01:31:51.940 if burnham does try and do some of his reforms uh then it's just going to be another liz truss 0.93

01:31:57.080 he's going to be out within a month or two um so you know the government keeps cracking on but

01:32:02.900 everybody hates what they're doing so you can't get anybody to represent the government so they

01:32:06.900 just keep switching faces so that they can try and like get little storylines going where it's

01:32:11.160 like starmer is the most hated man bring in burnham he's gonna bring in burnham he's gonna

01:32:16.680 write the ship and he doesn't and they'll bring someone else in yeah and unfortunately the

01:32:21.540 electorate fall for it every single time and it's very very frustrating uh especially with

01:32:27.040 the electorate yeah the the electorate in terms of you know i'm talking about 54 percent

01:32:32.240 yeah but you know look it's a choice it's up to them i don't nobody owns anyone's vote

01:32:39.760 i'll go through a couple of the website comments and then we'll call it for today so zesty king

01:32:45.780 nick buckley seems like the obvious choice to me as someone who's doing great work in

01:32:48.840 manchester as someone who's already ran for manchester mayor before nevertheless i wish

01:32:52.820 this other bloke good luck daniel butchers the thing those of us online need to remember is

01:32:59.760 your average person to your average person ethnic nationalism is the same as ethnic purist or even

01:33:04.620 interchangeable with the term neo-nazism which i think is a fair point h.m kirpan permit registry

01:33:11.420 i look forward to supporting marlin on the 29th harry is totally right about moss side the place

01:33:16.740 is with no exaggeration and bear in mind moss side was already like the one of the rough parts

01:33:21.240 of manchester yeah uh entirely the five pillars of islam now mobile repair shops turkish barbers 0.86

01:33:27.800 vape shops kebab shops and immigration lawyer services because you got to sprinkle a few of 0.97

01:33:32.640 them in there as well so you can get your cousins around and um mother of hate monsters lewis good

01:33:39.980 to hear about marlon i'll look forward to feeding you all the campaign biscuits we had this is

01:33:46.480 obviously this lady um uh she bless her uh we uh we were on the campaign trail and um we were we

01:33:55.540 were fed freshly baked biscuits whilst we were campaigning thank you very very much i'm very

01:34:01.280 very delightful we have a wholesome base in my store why did they cancel the boroughs

01:34:07.660 what yeah where where down here yeah the boroughs oh yeah my missus was watching this on netflix

01:34:17.280 and she said it was really good did it not have did it did it have like an open and strong view

01:34:22.440 ship did it have a like open i'll read it afterwards i'll read should i read some of

01:34:27.340 the comments yeah yeah you can read some of yours i'm sorry that the the worst news was this news

01:34:31.740 for you today stelios how are you going to enjoy your summer holiday now michael drive belbis

01:34:36.520 socialists are all talk right now mamdani seems to be minding his p's and q's because wall street

01:34:42.540 is already and in the process of moving to moving to florida and texas i mean maybe i don't know but

01:34:50.220 i wish they were all talk henry ashman this woman clearly never got to hear about what

01:34:56.680 actually happened in chas after they booted all the cups out turned out and turned into district 1.00

01:35:03.780 nine and under a week yes it's one of those stupid people who think well yeah it's if the 0.99

01:35:09.460 police didn't exist no violence would exist well why do you think it exists in the first place 1.00

01:35:13.960 well they'll they'll just say oh well it won't happen this time or it'll be different with us 1.00

01:35:19.240 even if they do know about it justin phillips says all leftists and useful idiots are crypto commies 1.00

01:35:24.560 marxists that's all socialism they push us and arizona desert rat this lady is a new level of 1.00

01:35:32.180 unhinged how much you want to bet she would support a centrally controlled federal police force 1.00

01:35:36.840 instead of local departments 1.00

01:35:39.120 what like commie goon squads to come out and get you in the night maybe maybe annie moss 0.93

01:35:48.060 leftist, not enough that we destroyed

01:35:50.800 the economy, now we have to destroy all

01:35:52.700 IPs, see Doctor Who, Star Wars

01:35:54.960 Star Trek, Lord of the Rings

01:35:56.680 etc etc, yes because you're not allowed

01:35:58.720 to have nice things, Starmer's

01:36:00.760 fiery but mostly peaceful backdoor

01:36:02.640 I didn't know Angela the Fridge

01:36:04.760 Big Bird Rayner was in Doctor Who

01:36:06.800 neither did I, Michael

01:36:08.660 Drebelbus, Tom Baker was my first Doctor

01:36:10.880 then I found Hartnell, Troughton

01:36:12.820 and Pertwee, such great actors

01:36:14.780 yeah, Michael, again

01:36:16.680 i missed the doctor who with terrible special effects yeah made up for by great writing and

01:36:20.960 better acting liz sladen being frightened by the most abysmal uh scary aliens was peak acting

01:36:27.100 it's me with star trek the original series my favorite it's in every episode that's my nerd

01:36:32.480 moment yeah no that's that's fair we're all allowed one yeah henry ashman the only episode

01:36:37.360 i've seen post capaldi was i caught the back end of the eurovision one waiting for something else

01:36:42.620 to come on my god it was awful galactic eurovision in space it feels like what happened when no one

01:36:49.280 is allowed to say no in the doctor who production office which given it's the bbc could lead to

01:36:53.520 some allegations down the line that sounds horrifying i just the last episode i watched

01:36:57.860 was the very first jody whittaker one where the main villain uh was an intergalactic space

01:37:03.360 serial killer who like embedded the teeth of his victims in his face so he was just a man

01:37:11.600 was terrifying tooth face right right it was awful yeah yeah it was dreadful and i never watched it

01:37:18.880 ever again and rightly so so with that that's all we've got time for today thank you very much

01:37:25.120 for joining us and thank you for joining us lewis it's been a pleasure to see you again

01:37:28.920 yeah you too we'll see you again tomorrow till then take care

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 24, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1447

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