The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1453
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Summary
This week, we're joined by Dan and Harry to discuss how the conservative media has struck again for the left, and to do the left's work, and why it's time to take it back. Plus, we talk about the new asylum system that will last for over a thousand years, and the failure of the current asylum system.
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hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters episode 1453 particularly terrible year
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with the fall of constantinople so uh in the chat how are we going to take it back uh we are
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joined today on thursday the 2nd of july 2026 by dan hello and harry oh all right this is a wave
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of tiredness would you like a nap are you offering no i'm sure you can go through my segment it'll be
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fine uh what's your segment about wing it through yeah well luca can tell everyone that yeah well
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today we're going to be talking how about how the conservative media has struck again
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for the left and to do the left's work because they really are there is no genuine disagreement
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between them uh we're then going to talk about the new asylum system that will last for over a
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thousand years and then we're going to be discussing why does everything fail yes which
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i'm sure is a very i'm going to seamlessly connect supergirl to thomas jefferson well we
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look forward to see that transition it's gonna be like you know you know always sunny where he's
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just there with a map and everything's like struggle to make it easier myself i go via
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robert conquest oh yes that will help that will help so before we begin ladies and gentlemen i
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just want to let you know again we have part three now of rhyme of the ancient mariner up on the
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website it's been some really really enjoyable work that i've put out there people have been
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really enjoying it um in the third part as well one of the things that's so remarkable about
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this poem Rhyming the Ancient Mariner by Coleridge is the fact that it's a very reactionary piece of
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work it's really Coleridge creating this poem and launching the romanticist movement as an antidote
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to the scientific reductionism and materialism that had basically been you know cast out because
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of the enlightenment into society and so what Coleridge is attempting to do is really go back
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to an older more noble more supernatural more spiritual uh viewer way of seeing the world and
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the interdependency of man and nature and also as well uh the the mariner's journey as a voyage of
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faith and so i think it's um it's a very very philosophically rich piece of work and i encourage
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you to go and check out my broader thoughts on it uh with all that said then oh and of course it's
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a banger iron maiden song oh yeah obviously yeah yeah so yes i was getting confused with that yes
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anyway harry over to you sir just give me a moment for the coffee to hit okay i don't know what's
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come over me chaps but it's all right you can fill you can fill the moment while it's waiting
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for hit you know dream team dream team should i actually bluff your segment i can pull up the
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notes now that would be something if we also about segments um something about fundraising
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oh god i can't do it yeah no no i've seen the j word i i yes sadly that will be a prominent
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feature of this segment uh unavoidably so it's not my fault but we know what the uh the cook
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servatives are like the so-called conservative media and uh they are at it again with this which
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uh was a few days old now on the 28th of june the telegraph released an article they published
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this new article far-right extremist exploiting buy me a coffee fundraising app and when i say
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they're at it again what what do i mean well i mean the so-called conservative media are
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punching as hard as possible to anything remotely to their right instead of attacking
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the left which you would expect them to do i wouldn't even say they're punching these people
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they are duplicitously sneaking around so they can stab them in the back because the telegraph
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alongside a number of the other publications that I'll refer to here
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are the kinds of newspapers that will routinely publish articles
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about migrant crime, the disenfranchisement of native Europeans
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But then if you threatened to actually do something about it,
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or support a political party that says that they want to do something about it,
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then the telegraph are going to go hell for leather against you and they are not going only
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going to try and cancel you they are going to try and ruin your ability to make money
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so that you die in a gutter penniless which is just frankly just like what the what the
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conservative media have been doing for decades at this point i suppose it does sort of make sense
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because let me let's say you figured out how to end homelessness the number one people trying to
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stop you would be all the homeless charities and organizations the problem the problem with that
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is that the telegraph had actually uh many people may not know this the telegraph is actually a very
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old newspaper yes that had been publishing newspapers since before migrant crime was
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really a big hot button issue and so you could say that they would just be able to go back to
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reporting on other what news they don't do that anymore no and so i mean and it's very very clear
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why all this is happening because they even highlight a particular element of the rhetoric
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used by the people they're going against in this Twitter post that they put here.
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Again, this was important enough for them to highlight it here.
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Fundraising platform designed to help fans support struggling artists and performers
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is being exploited by far-right activists, the telegraph can reveal.
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Presumably far-right activists inspired by the kinds of news stories that you publish.
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The activists using the platform include one who has called for all British Jews to be deported.
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you'd think that amongst all of the other rhetoric that these people that the people they reference
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here bandy about that you know you'd just be able to say uh anti they're racist they're bigots but
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they highlight that which is a little interesting i mean steve laws wants to deport about 25 million
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people and the telegraph are focusing on steve laws when it comes to 230 000 it's not personal
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like it is steve laws wants to deport mixed race people with at least one english parent so you'd
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that that would be something that they would want to highlight there's only like 230 000 jews in
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britain so that they focus on that aspect of it they're referring to the andrew gold
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interview really where andrew gold yeah asks him well you know i'm jewish so would you deport me
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and steve's like well you're not originally from england so yeah i suppose so and it's just like
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they they just kind of like you know andrew to be fair to him actually takes it in his stride
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yeah like you know what that's consistent so whatever yeah um but let's let's read through
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some of the article and some of the people that they are
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like there's a lot of public attention out there
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that would be some kind of, like, if you want to talk about
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democratic mandates the actual people supporting people financially would suggest that there's some
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kind of you know public interest in all of this uh but no not when it's for the wrong ideas
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restore which was founded by rupert low after he was suspended by reform split the right-wing vote
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with nigel farage's party in the makerfield by-election the divide helped labor's andy
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burnham to win which in turn prompted keir starmer's resignation that's an actual quote
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that's an actual paragraph from this article um which is bollocks that's a lie yes yes that's
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as an absolute majority yes got 55 of the vote restore only got 6.8 of the vote reform got what
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about 34 to 35 of the vote so even if there had been no split labor would have won handily no
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matter what all of the other parties may as well have not run at all even even farage in his
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concession speech didn't go for the line of well if you hadn't split the vote with a one because
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it was observably not true yes farage went with a different tack which was you know we said we
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wanted to get starmer out and i suppose labor decided they wanted to get starmer out as well
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he took it in kind of stride to be honest um but yeah that is as blatant a lie i have ever read
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in any news article ever at least with other news at least with the guardian they kind of
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try and dress it up through rhetoric that is just bullshit well normally papers that they're painful
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technically correct but just omit the frame in order to sort of tell a broader lie but i mean
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they're doing both now so the the fact that the telegraph has descended to the point where
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the editor the the editorial board of the telegraph the editor of the telegraph
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is more than willing to just let bollocks slip into articles like that.
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Like you say, not even editorial mistelling of the truth, just a lie.
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It just goes to show where the Telegraph is at when it comes to attacking these activists
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and also attacking Restore as a party because of their association with these activists.
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It highlights Lucy White, who's a friend of the show, has appeared on us very recently,
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who fundraises on buy me a coffee with her page stating that she's on a mission to get the country
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back to normality which apparently is just a heinous thing for the telegraph to want to do
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because it might you danny might be right it might just be like well if the country gets back to
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normality how are we supposed to be constantly throwing out red meat through our articles so
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she describes herself on bmac as focusing on policies to reverse legal and illegal migration
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are using African and Asian immigrants to undermine Western society.
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Now, if this was The Guardian, that's where they would stop with this article,
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They add in a little extra sentence at the end here.
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He has also previously endorsed a ban on circumcision.
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Well, it's not exactly a traditional British practice.
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it's no i'd say outside of arab and middle eastern states it's pretty unusual oh and also
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the united states of america but that's that's its own kind of way also very weird right there
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weird yeah very strange thing to include there um i can only assume given that this the whole
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tenor of this article is that this is uh these people are doing bad things that we can assume
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that going against not wanting young male babies to be mutilated
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Well, I'm still waiting for them to actually list some of the bad things.
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You know, we at the Telegraph, we love baby boys
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It's a strange hill to die on Telegraph, I'll just say it.
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Do you think if I come out against money lending,
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Is this you trying to get a full-page spread in the...
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I'm so jealous of all these people, including people we know well,
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It'd be a bit hypocritical given your finance background, Dan.
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Clearly, you've just got too many friends in high places.
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the revelations highlight how far-right extremists appear to be able to use online platforms to fund
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their activities again the only difference between the telegraph now and the guardian
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is that the telegraph will go over and above to highlight anything that they consider anti-semitic
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in what you're doing as well other than that there is no difference between the the telegraph
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and the guardian they even highlight here they get a quote from alex hearn co-director of labor
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against anti-semitism what an interesting fellow to decide to specifically go to a to for a quote
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on the tory graph getting in the labor voices is everybody who's not a member of labor against
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anti-semitism an anti-semite i assume so either that or as we found out in a recent statement by
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keir starmer gay i can believe that yes uh he said it's concerning that far-right activists are
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Not only welcoming Restore, but also using Buy Me A Coffee to raise funds.
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The platform must remove them and urgently review its procedures so this doesn't happen again.
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The Telegraph coming out, two thumbs up in favour of de-platforming of people's livelihoods.
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What, isn't a re-migrationist allowed a little coffee every now and then?
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After being alerted by the Telegraph, so the Telegraph, independently, I assume,
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maybe there's some security stuff going in here,
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But they independently chose to conduct this investigation because they had decided that Connor not wanting baby boys to be mutilated and Lucy White not wanting there to be animal abuse going on in slaughterhouses was too far and beyond the pale.
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So BMAC has now launched an investigation into the use of its site to raise funds for far right activists in breach of its own rules.
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So this article and the investigation and them alerting buy me a coffee
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might actively mean that these people no longer get a livelihood.
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It might just mean that they want them to be poor and destitute.
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We appreciate you bringing this to our attention.
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We have forwarded the information you have provided to our relevant team for review.
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They will investigate the matter from our end and take any necessary action in accordance with our policies.
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Meanwhile, The Telegraph continually still runs stories like this.
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only two days later i'm a white working class male with straight a's in britain i'm a second
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class citizen and as you can tell the telegraph's heart truly bleeds for a man in a situation like
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that but as steve points out the telegraph will run these stories then cry when you call for
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remigration because it is a scum rag made up of people who absolutely despise you and this is not
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an unusual thing we've been hearing for years about different people being de-platformed off
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of various um various uh money raising platforms like patreon like when carl got taken off of it
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years ago now but it's become even more uh prevalent again recently there have been a few
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examples of it of people trying to do it and there's also been examples of these so-called
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conservative rags attacking people associated with restore with smears like most recently daily mail
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very similar to the telegraph they'll run plenty of articles about migrant crime but if you try and
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do anything about it, they will go hell for leather to ruin your life. Calling people white supremacists
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and neo-Nezis and ethno-nationalists and all sorts because they want to draw attention and
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draw a connection between them and Rupert Lowe and Restore, that was a pretty scummy move by
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the Daily Mail. And in terms of payment processes, it reminds me of a recent one where there was the
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Canadian platform Entropy, which you may have heard of. People like Nick Fuentes were using
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it people like owen benjamin were using it blackpilled uh other creators they were using it
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as one of the only friendly payment processes to be able to get donations through super chats on
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their videos and i think even aa and people like that were using it for a while as just
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one alongside the other like super chat functions they were getting on youtube because not everybody
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wants to donate and give a chunk of their change they're donating to youtube they'd like to use
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other more friendly platforms to donate their money. SPLC back in 2021 launched an investigation
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into them, tried to attack them, and then recently it seems that the weight of multiple investigations
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against them all compounded at once. There was a organization called Fifth Estate, which is in
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conjunction with the CBC, which I believe is the Canadian state broadcaster, did an investigation
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really difficult situation because they had a load
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of money that they needed to pay out to all of the
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overnight shut their doors. Now, I'm aware that that has
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out people have received the money that was owed to them but it was putting these people into a
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really difficult position just because they were helping people to get donations make a livelihood
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talking about things that the mainstream establishment do not want you talking about
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you know so this is this this is a pretty horrifying thing that mainstream platforms
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including so-called conservative platforms are actively going after people's ability to make a
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living highlighting the problems within society that we all face happily i did see that even some
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of the reform guys who um you know like jack hadfield who we've had on the show uh a few
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times in the past but has uh gone very much for reform whereas lotus eaters has gone more for
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restore which has caused some division but i was very glad to see some of those dividing lines
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bridged a little bit when people like jack uh honorably came out and said you know that this
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is a horrible, horrible article. I've disagreed before with those names, but people should be
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free to choose who they back financially. New round of financial oppression for everybody on
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the right could be the result of this. Nobody should support this on principle. So it was great
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to see Jack and others come out with principled responses to this. Connor, who was, of course,
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a target of the article, pointed out that they said that his only response to this was that,
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oh, it smears, when in fact he showed some DMs here
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of the author of the article getting in touch with him,
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saying, well, here's the thing that I'm going to say about you,
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which left out a load of the extra stuff that they added in,
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hey, this reads a lot like the hope-not-hate articles
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for its research on these people or these hit piece smears against them connor released the
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response and said here's all of this extra material that you can look at so i can explain
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my position properly did they include any of it no this is just dishonesty of the greatest
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um of the greatest level and frankly the telegraph should probably be referred to some kind of
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independent standards board although to be fair i know when it comes to the newspapers in britain
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I believe the independent regulators of it are the newspapers themselves, so there is no independent body that this could be referred to, but this is one of the most egregious and disgraceful pieces of journalism and editorialising that I've ever seen in my entire life, and frankly the telegraph should shut down, they should shut their doors as a part of it, but it won't, and if you're wondering why there was so much focus on the anti-Zionist or anti-Semitic elements of some of these people that they were talking about,
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Would it surprise you to know that the holding company, Axel Springer SE, which is a German media group, has a CEO called Matthias Dopfner, who spoke at the World Jewish Congress Governing Board meeting in May this year, in which he said,
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i am a goy and i am a zionist which is interesting kind of shows you the general direction that the
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telegraph wants to take and the guiding north star principles that it takes when goy is actually like
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the insult term as everybody learned when the epstein files were released you know if he'd said
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i am a gentile but he's actively using the derogatory term to describe himself of course
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he's german which means that he has a complex sadly as many germans do but this kind of self
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deprecating self-loathing hatefulness towards himself which then gets spread out to other
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people and then the telegraph's main editorial line now seems to be destroy anybody who isn't
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just a blood and soil zionist yeah well and also disgusting surely surely at this point if this is
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the direction that the telegraph is taking how can it be described as anything but some form of
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captured foreign-based media group that are operating connor did the trip though didn't he
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he got the seven grand and did the trip uh many people would like to accuse him of so but he did
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go to the didn't he talk about it openly he did go to he did go to israel i doubt i don't know if
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there was an exchange of seven thousand pounds isn't that the going rate for going um uh sadly
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perhaps connor's just not as great a negotiator as you would be i'm sure that you'd have been
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able to haggle it up to at least 21 grand it's not a matter of money for dan it's more i will
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haggle my way to a certain amount of hit pieces no if they pay me say 50 grand i'd totally go
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okay but i'm sorry i don't see how in a situation like this where the telegraph's new editorial
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line is directed the way that it is how it's not looked in the same way that rt is how is this not
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just foreign sponsored media frankly yeah that should be banned from this country this is
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disgraceful this is disgusting they're trying to take english men and women who have genuinely
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genuine concerns for the state of their country they're trying to smear them with pathetic
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attempts at calling them anti-semites and ruin their livelihoods and potentially again knock-on
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effects for everybody else to the right of mao who uses buy me a coffee it's absolutely disgraceful
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you should never look at the telegraph again
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and gave me I don't know a couple of hundred grand
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yes because he he gifted 10 subscriptions that is incredibly generous thank you very much sir
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yes excellent apart from number two went to input username now and halfway through your segment he
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said something in the chat like um i feel like dan's face right now and whatever that i don't
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know what that means but i'm a bit suspicious i think it's because you looked disappointed and
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slightly harrowed at the information oh oh that oh i don't mind that that's a random name you can
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judge a man by his enemies which reminds me of oh no he's for legal reasons it's a joke yes
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um i remember that song uh that's a random name again dan if you want a full pray uh page spread
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hit peace uh hit peace just read my super chats but pretend that you said it that's a good point
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actually all right okay fair enough no no don't don't dan says dan if you want a full page spread
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hit please just read my uh super chats but pretend you said it there you go yeah well yeah good start
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Well, Winston, if you want a picture of the future, imagine the worst scum of the third
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world coming to Britain forever, because that is exactly what we're going to be getting.
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Now, this has not gone unnoticed by our dear political leaders. Actually, tensions are
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becoming a little bit fraught, and people are becoming quite fiery out there, both literally
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and metaphorically. We've seen all sorts of things now, both across Britain and Ireland,
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with i believe there was a cafe in blackburn burnt down recently living up to its name because of its
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islamic ties and there was also obviously uh mosques in dublin as well and so on and so forth
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and it's just with everything going on with the henry novak situation with everything that boiled
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over in southampton with everything that happened in belfast it's not just that the crimes and the
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stories are becoming more monstrous it's the fact that they're also becoming more frequent as well
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it feels like the chance to just breathe and just process what's happening to us is being snatched
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away at quite the pace now and kia starmer was in parliament uh just the other day and it was
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he was claiming that well racism and intolerance has worsened in britain over the past decade and
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that is undoubtedly true uh and this is something that shabana mahoud has also you know said and
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you know what it used to be that thing that people used to say oh well you know the problem with the
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dei and the woke stuff is that they want all of this demand for racism but unfortunately they
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can't meet that demand it's like well honestly based on some of the things that you're hearing
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from reform councillors and just you know local members of the public during voxpox these days
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when they speak to owen jones it does seem like the that that long very famous patience and
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tolerance of the british is beginning to break do we need to up our production then well it's not
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necessarily anything that i'm going to encourage but i will say that people from other communities
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are also starting to take notice of it for example we have here this muslim chap who i'll just let
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speak for a muslim you have no other option but to leave the uk and move to a muslim country now
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Because your sisters, your mother, your wife
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Like if your mother, your sister, your wife is wearing the hijab
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And imagine feeling uncomfortable every single time
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Like you cannot live comfortably knowing your family isn't safe
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It's so amazing that he has practically shown you
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in the last five years how things have become worse and worse and only Allah knows how bad
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it's actually going to become like you guys need to start planning for your get out well I like
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that guy yes it's it's it's so true you know I would never want to see anything uh like uh horrible
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happen to any of these people so it probably is for the best that they head somewhere safe
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better safe than sorry yeah and it's just that every single week just more and more transparency
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comes out just statistic by statistic percentage by percentage we're just you know regaled
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with the actual reality of what's being done and as reported here home office researchers found
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that 76 percent of migrants granted the right to remain in the united kingdom on human rights
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grounds including under article 8 of the uchr are unemployed so not only has enormous legal funds
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being used to allow them to stay in the country often for the most comical reasons such as the
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chicken nuggets in albania just aren't quite as tasty as those that we have on the swindon high
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street place but also as well it's when they're actually allowed to stay here as well um they
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contribute nothing they're still a danger to society and they are for all intents and purposes
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the reason why the british community the british people are more and more fearing for their
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children for their daughters as was something that came up time and time again when i was on
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the ground in makerfield the safety for families and this is in a place that isn't even particularly
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diverse but they see what's going around in the rest of the country and they know that it's only
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a matter of time before it comes to their doorstep as well. Femi answer to this I thought
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you said that if we got rid of migrants that the UK would collapse because they're nothing but a
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net benefit financially can you explain this for me please Femi I can't quite wrap my head around
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those two same ideas at once presumably I'm just not smart enough. Yes we'd welcome your thoughts
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And is one of the reasons why so many of them
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Twana Jamal. Yes. The Home Office know that you're a convicted people smuggler. Smuggler? Yeah. I never.
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Do the Home Office know your real identity Twana Jamal? I think it just went back to the beginning for some reason. Okay. The Home Office know that you're a convicted people smuggler? Smuggler? Yeah. I never.
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you've not served time in prison in france the tuana jamal we saw convicted in france in 2016.
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okay we we know the court records we've seen the pictures of you have you told the home office
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that you're a convicted people smuggler i never did i never did that you never did people smuggling
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the courts in france estimate you were the most prolific people smuggler they'd come across
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Yeah, why? Why do you want to be in this country?
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so not only has this man spent the best part of you know his years he's only in his 30s you know
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just spent sending into our country yes the worst most dangerous people that have ever inhabited
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these islands i do like this bbc news style of going around and asking people why are you in
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this country yes well the thing is more of that earlier on this year the bbc launched a large
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three-part investigation looking into the ways in which the asylum system is broken and i would
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assume that this has come out of that and i will admit the bbc has actually been doing some
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good work with this stuff like when the bbc decides oh should we do some journalism
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actually can do good it can do it they're the ones who got that report of um all of the different
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asylum claims where it was saying that i'm gay and they had some handler giving them a fake
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boyfriend and getting them to go to a gay club and i mean two things first of all somebody please
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clip that i'm gay bit and also i mean it's amazing what the bbc can do with only a three
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billion pound budget yeah dan needs some dan needs a clip to help soothe him to sleep
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um but also his entire attitude right there's this sort of attitude about him of look you can
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come at me with all of this but i'm untouchable you're gonna have me on camera you can ask me
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these questions no one's gonna come for me like you know he he knows because he's seen
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that when he sends these people to britain that they get the best possible treatment and actually
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if we go further through the bbc article on this as well goes on to say that's a great screen grab
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they've chosen for him like when he realizes when he got his phone out started texting i assume he's
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texting all of his cousins like i need i need out bruv i need out um i mean he's had numerous
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aliases whilst he's been in france and obviously was you know uh brought to trial by the french
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court as well but like really take in in this particular bit we narrowed the search for jamal
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was several sources. One of them arranged a call with Jamal under a false pretext and recorded
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their conversation. Jamal said he was now based in Leicester and boasted,
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we know everyone in this city. This city is ours. He was making good money, he continued,
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and told our contact that there was work to be had moving cigarettes from a warehouse.
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Jamal also admitted driving a car without a license, but said he was not worried about
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being investigated or caught no one touches us here he said even the police won't stop us
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oh that's true yes right yeah everyone we are so deep into two-tier policing he's absolutely right
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and he's connected he's connected the little mini marts as well both named candy corner you know
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those little yeah those little uh sweet shops that you see on street corners that nobody ever
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seems to go into like the turkish barbers oh no when it gets dark you do see people turning up
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going to the counter hungry getting a getting a bag of sweets from under the counter which for
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somehow not even asking you know for anything in particular and they drive off in expensive
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german automobiles so some people go bag of sugar yeah and so basically what i'm trying to say is
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that this guy is just one case study now in thousands that we have accumulated over the years
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where we've really after years and years of watching the sea people come up to conquer our
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shores we've really gotten to judge them on the content of their character sorry i just have to
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highlight this as well just like the part of that same sentence by chance one of these mini marts
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also stands next door to the constituency office of the local conservative mp yes that's that's
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amazing like like he doesn't know yeah like he doesn't know and couldn't like mobilize the
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authorities in the local area to just go hold up there's literally a drugs ring operating right
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next to my constituency office do you mind just going and sorting that out but they don't because
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they're cowards um but if by some miracle that this bbc expose actually leads to this man being
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prosecuted and removed for the country if by some miracle that happens it's still the point that
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it would only have happened because it was shoved in the public's face and enough cry was made about
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it it given their left to their own devices the home office would have absolutely no problem would
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lose no sleep at night having men like this in the country there he is in France yes in 2016 so
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yeah that is definitely the same guy yeah um and so then we get the most tone-deaf thing I've ever
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heard from Shabana Mahmood and the thing we're going to spend the most amount of detail on which
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is my goal is simple to ensure we have an asylum system not just today but for generations to come
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that is obviously a threat that that is the one of the worst things so even if we did get rid of
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jamal yes we've still got shabana and shabana was doing this a scale that would humiliate jamal
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well she's also going to be shifted around in burnham's cabinet if burning went to the leadership
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uh race so it'll probably be some other home secretary well apparently she's saying that
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she wants to stay at the home office for presumably because you can bring in more of a
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I think she would probably be best suited there
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to try and retain a lot of the indefinite leave
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and stop them from being able to settle in this country.
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Well, the thing is, Shabana Mahmood is not a stupid woman, actually. She understands quite well, actually, the fact that not only is the illegal immigration issue terrible, terrible optics for successive governments, but it's also the fact that it threatens to basically blur the lines between the distinction of illegal and legal into just sheer total collective foreign resentment from the British population.
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And so in basically trying to clamp down on the issue of the illegals and the worst visible excesses of the problem, them arriving at the shores and being welcomed in, them being put near schools in Epping, all these sorts of things, that by clamping down on the visual signifiers of the problem, that she can actually diffuse attention by some miracle.
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even though it won't because people will continue to be raped people will continue to be murdered
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and the two-tier system that we live in will still be self-evident everywhere which is of course why
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they hate x so much because these things are made visible to us every day but to speak then of the
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reforms to the asylum system uh my reforms will save the asylum system for a generation you need
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the space there, gov.uk. Standards are falling. New safe and legal refugee routes alongside
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reforms to human rights and modern slavery laws to prevent abuse of the asylum system.
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And it goes on to say, the United Kingdom has a proud history of offering sanctuary to refugees
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fleeing war and persecution. Because you see, we're not actually a country with any sense of
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heritage or continuity or history of our own no no what britain has always been is just a glorified
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refugee camp for the entire world to come to even though the entire world didn't come to it
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and it was generally people who were like french and dutch protestants during particularly you know
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frosty religious times on the continent i wouldn't even say that more more like we're a
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halfway house for international criminals well that too and uh honestly when you just look at
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some of the historical figures that britain has given asylum to over the years it really does
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make you interrogate why even we did that back then even when we had more prudent uh law keepers
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anyway to to go down it says so home secretary shaban mahoud has said uh britain britain has
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always offered sanctuary to those fleeing war and persecution but this system only survives
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if the public trusts that it is fair, controlled, and not open to abuse.
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First of all, why the hell would we want this system to survive at all, right?
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The entire premise behind it is that, oh, if we could only get a hold of it,
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if we could only get a hold of the worst excesses of it,
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then the British public would welcome untold numbers of asylum seekers
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into Britain until the end of time and Judgment Day.
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What she's trying to do is she's trying to embed something
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Yes. Yes. And it says here, I will open new legal routes for genuine refugees, whilst closing loopholes for those that have too often been abused.
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My goal is simple, to ensure that we have an asylum system, not just for today, but for generations to come.
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And this really, and you heard this from the Tories as well, when they saw people coming across on the small boats and, you know, the odd person would drown in the channel, right?
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The emphasis and the framing of it was always on, well, we need to close these illegal routes
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because they're incredibly dangerous for the people crossing.
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Not for the people here, not for the British, who are welcoming absolute strangers into their home
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with innumerable criminal convictions, as exampled by the BBC case
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and many other people that we've covered on the podcast before.
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But also the fact that with all of this, it's just couching the fact,
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well if we could just make them legal if these people were just here legally then everything
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well it's just it's just a question of procedure you see it's just a question of procedure yes
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um and so it goes on to say a new community sponsorship scheme will allow communities
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to sponsor refugees to resettle in their area taking responsibility for housing integration
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and supporting them into work i'm going to stop it right there a new community sponsorship scheme
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is what the reality of that is going to look like is that the afghan communities will do absolutely
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everything in their power to sponsor afghans coming over the eritreans will do everything
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they can to get their eritrean kin in and so on and so forth forever well i suppose we could bring
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back the australians the new zealanders the canadians and the americans the only problem is
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is those are not utterly dysfunctional third world countries and therefore they don't need to come
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here so the only people who are going to come here are third world people yes and because of
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the institutions and the total capture and the two-tier society we do know that it well in some
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sense it's like look hey if you want to put it to the community and say do you want this person to
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be settled and integrated into your environment and the only stamp that we've got is a big fat
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one that says no on it and is entirely being done by very sensible English people with you know
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children of their own who are worried about their future then yeah I'm all for people power but we
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know that's not going to be the reality of the case and it gets worse still where she goes on
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to say that meanwhile trusted universities will be able to directly sponsor refugees through a
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study route applications will open this autumn for organizations to sponsor refugees with the
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first arrivals in autumn 2027 right i look forward to some grinning sudanese chap uh being brought
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into cambridge so so universities which are already in this country a massive ponzi scheme
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being kept alive by study visas in the first place because otherwise half of them would have
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to shut down and good riddance to the lot of them are now being given another route through which to
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keep themselves afloat with but presumably a study route uh organizations to sponsor refugees
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they're presumably to cover tuition fees either have to have those fees waived which removes the
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incentive for the universities in the first place or they would need some kind of private or public
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sponsorship which means it would either come out of private corporations who hate you paying for
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these fees yes or the government just taking more of my tax money or borrowing more to pay for these
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fees um okay and and absolutely and also as well we we know that given the very well chronicled at
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this point corruption within our universities as you say harry that these are people who are going
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to turn entirely a blind eye if someone isn't genuinely eligible who will just like stamp them
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through not only because even if by some miracle you actually have a very sensible um elite
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community of that university the student body of the university are almost you know fundamentally
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progressive in their thinking and will act as a pressure group in all circumstances to make sure
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that those actually coming down on the decision make the right decision in all of this as well
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and so basically all of this is going to be used to bring in more and more people under the auspices
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of legality when in fact it's just going to be the case that it's going to be entrusted to people
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who make sure that they do the right thing and say yes to as many as they possibly can.
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There's a refugee work route expected to open next year,
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Now, the British labour force already has enough of a hard time
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already being in competition with the rest of the world
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And now they also have to put up with their own employers
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now letting refugees be part of the competition as well.
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I mean, this is a great windfall for all lovers of cheap, easy labour.
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yeah fantastic and so i just wonder just to come back to it do we think that any of this that i'm
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reading and going through now will help to contribute in kia starmer's diagnosis of the
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temperature of the country right do we think this is actually going to alleviate any pressure in the
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public mood whatsoever or do we think that actually the alienation the displacement is just going to
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become more and more as as particularly the university town no i think a few months in
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there'll be some horrific incident and then we find out that they were brought in under the
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maximize the sudanese rwandans and yeah and some afghan scheme yeah my working theory is that part
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of the reforms that have been put through recently have basically been to try to prevent another
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southport incident happening because the government barely got a handle on that one
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and god forbid multiple south ports all happen at the same time because the government definitely
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won't be able to keep a handle on all of that now this is entirely counterproductive to that
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and the the reason is simple yeah we used to take in quote-unquote political refugees
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for entirely cynical reasons yes because they were the enemies of our enemies at the time
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We take in people like Karl Marx, because his ideology is destabilizing to the governments on the continent, who are starting to build up massive manufacturing bases, which could threaten the empire.
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We take in the Polish government during the Second World War, because they're the enemies of our enemies, and once Hitler has been defeated, we can reinstall them, they owe a debt to England, we can have them in our pocket.
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but that sounds far too cynical so at some point somebody decided well let's not say that we're
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doing it for our own interest it's because it's british values to help people it's british values
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and the people who start that idea know that it's bullshit but then people who didn't come up with
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that idea who are raised after it just think that that's the truth they believe the propaganda yeah
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they believe the propaganda they're raised in it it becomes part of them and so now we do live in
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the regime where two or three generations down the line retards who actually think that it's
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good to open your open your gates to the entire world because oh i'm gay and i'll get thrown off
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a building back home or something that's a moral thing to do let's clip that bit as well
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dan's making a compilation but of course this entire thing is just being done to consolidate
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the foreign strength in the country right because ultimately despite all of the bsbs
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they're still just bringing them in for cynical reasons.
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and has successfully resettled almost 400,000 refugees.
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70% of sponsored refugees find work within a year,
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30% higher than those resettled through government schemes.
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It's like, yeah, okay, but again, it still comes back to the same point.
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We don't want hundreds of thousands of people from the third world
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Community sponsorship builds on the UK's own Homes for Ukraine scheme,
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for Ukraine scheme which showed the public's British public's willingness to open their arms
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to those fleeing danger look again I do appreciate the fact that the British public may have been
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more sympathetic to the plight of the Ukrainians but even if they weren't we were still being told
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that we were getting them hell or high water anyway that's how this works um and then to go
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on further on to the ECHR it says well article 8 the right to private and family life is intended
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as a safeguard, yet with 77,000 applications granted in the past year alone, it is having a
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significant impact on our ability to enforce the immigration rules and tackle illegal immigration.
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As confirmed in the King's speech, the Immigration and Asylum Bill will tighten the application of
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Article 8 by defining family as an immediate family member, such as a parent, spouse or child
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under 18 except in exceptional circumstances problem with this of course as well is that if
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you're coming over and you've torn up all of your identification in your papers and you just say oh
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no that that's my mum that's my dad right these are not people who are sticklers for the law
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they will find each and every every avenue that they can to work around when government writes
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this stuff they always assume that everybody is strictly honest yeah it doesn't occur to them
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that people just lie about this stuff also i don't see how a deft human rights lawyer won't
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be able to work within that more narrow definition of family anyway yeah um most of these people do
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have parents and spouses or child or children here it will prevent illegal migrants including
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dangerous foreign criminals from abusing the system by relying on distant family relationships
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to prevent removal. For example, a domestic abuser from Poland, ah yes, Poland, that place where
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they're all coming from, with a string of convictions for violence, was allowed to stay
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on the basis that he was a father figure to his nephew. A new tougher test will make clear that
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deporting foreign national offenders is in the public interest and should only be blocked in
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the most exceptional circumstances. And then it also goes on to make mention of some things
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pertaining to modern slavery. But for the sake of time, I shall move on from it now.
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The other thing as well is that from October the 1st, employers caught hiring illegal workers as
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food delivery drivers or construction workers will face fines of up to £60,000 per illegal worker
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or five years in prison gig economy employers will be legally required to ensure right to work checks
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are undertaken the thing is about all of this on the one hand yes i want to see uh companies like
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deliveroo absolutely economically driven into the ground with lawsuits for the amount of you know
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of complicity that they've had in all of this but the other thing as well given um how we know that
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the authorities currently operate do we really expect any of this to be enforced even if it is
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put down on paper well this is a great change i think this this is actually a good change
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uh we'll know if it's actually being enforced if uber and deliveroo and just eat shut down
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overnight yeah yeah because the amount of illegal workers 60 000 times by a few hundred thousand
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maybe that will bankrupt them well all the five years uh per incident or something you could you
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could see these ceos going to jail for thousands of years yeah so if that ends up happening yes
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then we know it's being enforced um in other news uh 45 000 more illegal migrants and foreign
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criminals we will be deported or removed from the united kingdom within the next decade i mean
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call me a cynic but i think we're going to win within the next decade i i think that we're given
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a decade with a proper serious-minded government we could deport a hell of a lot more people than
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45 000 a month you could do that day i mean just like just like cordon off part of heathrow
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and within a couple of days you could have had multiple times that deported yeah do a do a deal
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with ryanair and just get lots of lots of cheap flights going i mean if the government can make
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private contracts with you know people who do um you know own hotels to house them i'm sure we can
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make contracts with airline companies this is why i don't think the idea of somebody like uh martin
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selner or some of the other re-migration activists to have okay a load of these people claim that
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they don't have a state we can't identify where they're from great we'll do it one we'll do a deal
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with some north african state or hell maybe one of the saudi states will build a really nice
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sanctuary city for you all to live in and if you say oh i'm not from anywhere actually you can't
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send me away well great you go to the sanctuary city yeah yeah um and so this entire thing as
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well as the fact that um shabana mood has also come out and said oh and also we'll make sure
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that none of these asylum seekers are put near schools as well so it's like okay i mean on the
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one hand yes good should should never have been the case in the first place but on the other hand
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as well i come back to the point the entire thing is about making sure that as many people who were
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coming in illegally and now coming through as valid citizens and coming through the legal routes
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because they've had and also as well to give it to basically use it as a way through the university
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system and through these foreign communities who will no doubt wish for more foreigners to come
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here to basically give it some sort of illusion of public endorsement right as a form of manufactured
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consent to say well look you know all of our institutions and everything that they wanted
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them here so it's a will of the people now that they're all here and the other thing as well is
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to just say that um as we have here uh white british students now make up less than 50 percent
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of the student population at 27 UK universities. At least 10 of those universities still offer
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scholarships, bursaries and financial aid exclusively to black, Asian and minority ethnic
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students, with some awards covering full tuition fees or providing living stipends of up to £18,062
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a year. And so I come back to the fact as well, if all of our universities are slowly and slowly
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are being staffed and the students who are going there
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then they have every reason out of ethnic loyalty to their own
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And the only people who are left at the end of this
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to raise the fact that there might be a problem
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and this is all a bit unfair on one particular people
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The British, and we can see here from this report, a legal migrant shouting,
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this is the end of England, just moments before landing on British shores.
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We know all of this. We know how hostile they are.
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We've seen with our own eyes how hostile they all are.
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And we've seen how through a combination of just gullibility and ignorance and maliciousness from certain sectors,
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All of these things have come to contribute to a system that is just determined to ram as many foreigners into the country as humanely possible, as quickly as possible, because as I come back to the point, the Labour government are, I mean yes they are stupid, but they're not so stupid to realise that this entire experiment is at risk of true catastrophic failure, and that this society is not going the way that they want it to go.
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and that actually there is some genuine resistance out there
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that our people are now being subjected to on the streets.
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And I would suggest that these reforms are not the way to, well,
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so Tim Walsh decided to pardon a migrant convicted of raping a 10-year-old
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no what it what it what is about right is and i'm sure a lot of parents have had this experience
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i will discover my kids watching a youtube video of somebody playing like minecraft and i'll be
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like why don't you just play minecraft but they don't they watch they watch a video of somebody
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else doing yeah but i thought to be fair for the same thing like i don't generally go and watch
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movies these days i i you know a movie might be like 120 minutes long and i don't watch it and
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then think oh that was bad instead i watch at least 240 minutes of people like nerd erotic
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absolutely slamming on the thing just relentlessly pile driving it into the ground i find that far
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more entertaining well you get to the point where you know more people are watching critical drink
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reviews of the film than go to watch the film itself absolutely and um anyway i got quite into
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are watching the failure of supergirl because it is such an epic failure it's really fun to just
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watch it watch it be destroyed anyway so i found this one um it's this because because i was
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thinking with supergirl it's like okay well fair enough i don't watch it and um loads of other
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people don't watch it but you know maybe you know it was written for girls maybe girls will like it
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so i started watching girl female yes the viewers right and um and uh and they don't like it either
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Well, the funny thing is as well, in the case there, you've got obviously characters from Star Wars and Captain Marvel.
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And so both of those IPs were bought by Disney because they thought, wow, we're really famous for all of the princesses.
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But we have nothing for boys and we need to conquer the market for boys.
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And then upon buying them later with Marvel, but immediately with Star Wars, it was like, this thing's too boyish, let's change it.
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i will say one thing for captain marvel over all of the others right which is whatever else you
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want to say about her whatever you want to say about the film brie larson is actually a babe
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oh yeah which you're which you don't get as much with more of these recent ones i have marvels
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yeah yeah so so we're here a little bit from from miss butler women don't want to see other women
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saving the men in the story it gives them the ick it gives men the ick it gives all of us the same
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ick that we get when we watch a woman propose to a man all right anyway and then there's another
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there's another suitable bit like five minutes basically she starts renting at hollywood it's
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like why the hell are you doing this oh i should line this up but here we go good question but you
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can't go and yell at these women for not showing up to the movie that you supposedly made for them
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because i gotta tell you as long as i have been alive i cannot recall a single time where yelling
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at a woman turned out to be a good idea and anyway there's some other bit i'm obviously not very good
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at doing the scrolling thing but there's a whole section of this where she's just like hollywood
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what what the hell are you doing what why are you continuously making really really bad films that
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nobody wants to watch and then doing it all over again and then nobody watches them um tell you
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because the women making these films would rather see themselves on the screen than make a good film
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right well there you go segment done but nice one harry it's the same thing with the uh there was
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the sony spider-man game for playstation 4 where you know had mary jane watson in the original one
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2018 yes she's a pretty redhead and then in the second one they gave her ugly man jaw and gross
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man face and you go why did they do that until you see that one of the people involved in making
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it has ugly manjor and ugly man face you went oh they just made it that you just made her you
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whatever the the the name is of that indian woman who did the velma series as well i'm
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just right just making velma indian because it's got to be me anyway i did i did think about her
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question you know why is this being done and samson you told me to leave it on the screen so
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you could you could supersize it supersize it there we go all right um good work anyway so i
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was thinking like you know why why is this happening and i was sort of minded of this chap
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so this is uh mr conquest uh robert conquest yes robert conquest uh who's famous for for you know
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these great political observation he was a sovietologist if that's a word so it is now yes
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it is now he's a part of mi6 i thought he was an academic who just kept an eye on the so yeah but
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loads of academics were part of the sea no no no he kept an eye on them he was a
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prevalentologist or whatever anyway the point is the point is he wrote some good stuff and uh let's
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see if this works there we go and and he came up with these these uh three laws of politics that
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are actually quite bloody good so the first one is everybody is conservative about what he knows best
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that is very true doesn't matter how left-wing you are doesn't matter how communist you are
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the thing that you care about the most you are very very conservative about whatever it is so
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i like that one uh your second one any organization not explicitly and constitutionally right wing
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will sooner or later become left wing true that is another very good um observation but um the one
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that kind of relates to all of this is uh the behavior of any organization can uh best be
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understood by assuming it's controlled by a secret cabal of its eminies right and yes i do have one
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thing to say about that which is robert conquest could never have predicted this uh but these days
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they're not secret no yeah that is it's a very fair they shout it from the rooftops yeah yes
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yes quite so anyway so i thought yeah that's good and and i'm going to try and answer miss
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butler's uh mrs butler i don't know i don't know if she's made or not mrs butler then i'm going to
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try and answer mrs butler's um question uh through the frame of this and i thought okay well i can't
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do it because i'm biased obviously on this stuff i don't really like hollywood and i think it's
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going to fail so i went to a whole bunch of ais and i got them to say okay and i because you know
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it helps you with your job and stuff so i said look i've just been appointed uh the chief executive
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of hollywood my mission all of hollywood yes every studio every has control over hollywood
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puppeteers every director and producer yes um it's a bit credulous it didn't it didn't push
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back too much and i said look what i want to do is i want to alienate hollywood from its fan base
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um as as completely as possible can you help me do this and it's quite obliging so anyway it came
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up with some suggestions uh which was um the this is a confab of what the various
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ai's came up with it said reward executives for meeting ideological branding or process
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goals instead of ticket sales and long-term audience loyalist reduce the consequence of
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failure i mean i think what's her name the star wars woman yes so she's proved that one
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prioritize message over storytelling does that happen oh yeah yes quite overtly um
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discourage creative disagreement i mean they did get rid of basically all the white men
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and they've just got women now it's not just that as well it's just a continuous trajectory you see
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of directors especially when they work on the big budgets just not actually being able to have a
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true vision of their own and just constant you know people coming from down above to tell them
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the studio wants this the studio wants that this is what happened of course when it came to by the
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time stan ramey was making spider-man 3 back in the day he had far less creative control
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over it because the studios were saying you have to have this thing so it's not even just the
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ideological stuff it's truly the corporatization of the creative process apparently what was his
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name um james gunney's like a total control freak and he tries to control absolutely every single
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thing and only delegates when he literally hasn't
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got time to do it. And he still can't make it good.
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the only genuinely creative bit left in Hollywood.
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so i'm pretty sure they used to make movies where it was like how can we make this movie as good as
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possible and then people thought oh that's a good movie and they went to watch it whereas now they
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try and make just people going to watch it as the goal in itself and the movie is irrelevant you
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might think well that's contradictory well not really because the opening weekend nobody's seen
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it yet so if you manipulate the reviewers and you do lots of marketing and you make it look good in
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the trailers well it doesn't matter that it's a shit film as long as you get that opening weekend
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yeah massive surge but as well the fact that we're living in the age of the internet as well
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it's never been i mean you know ideally it's never been easier for word of mouth yes to go around and
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say oh wow i saw this on opening weekend it was really good you should go check it out and to
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create a steamrolling effect which is what happened with obsession you know which is actually a good
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film right well so i've seen it i've told people to go and watch it yeah yeah i'm gonna check it
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definitely um devalue experienced craftspeople i mean that was the article that came out
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maybe six months ago about this this writer who's basically saying a white men have just
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excluded from everything now they just can't get it i believe it so they're all out um and focus
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on protecting brands rather than creating new ones so you know the 1000th superhero movie
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and he's like that's the thing you're gonna care about supergirl this time right dan you've been
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craving a supergirl film right talks about it every day in the office it is quite disturbing
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frankly when i when i was a young man you could go to the video shop and there'd just be and
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there'd just be films and it wouldn't be like part eight it would just be in fact there was it was
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quite rare i mean predator did a unless you're on rocky 4 no it'd be like slasher movies would be
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on like part eight but everybody knew that part eight of the slasher movies was going to be shit
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and that's why you'd watch it because it's hilarious but normal movies they just weren't
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they weren't these extended cinematic it was new stuff came up oh they just don't do new stuff
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anytime so that's interesting okay so if that's what you would do if you were trying to destroy
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hollywood right and that is everything they're doing absolutely everything they're doing so
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so i don't know what's going on there i'm trying to think of the films that i've seen this year i
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think like what i have been to the cinema a few times i saw obsession uh that was a brand new
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thing with a brand new director who's like a youtuber um i went to go see i did see 28 years
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later bone temple which is part wasn't actually that bad yeah it was part of an extended universe
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but it feels like the creator's doing something new with the universe rather than reiterating
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i went to go see iron lung another movie original movie movie i saw that yeah that's by a youtuber
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but i will engage with this so so my daughter's whatever she's like 12 or something now anyway
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so i thought okay you'll be it'll be keep better track of that yes you lose i don't know how old
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i am it's the wrong number of candles on the cake this year again no the wife does that anyway um
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so i thought okay it'll be uh she's probably old enough now to go through the marvel movies
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right and we started with obviously with iron man and you're so different so an iron man is
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right iron man is so good and she was so engaged and she was like just watching it and and we went
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through them and and we got to um last night we got to four love and thunder or something like
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oh and by the time we were on that by this by by the time we were on that we're halfway through
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and she's asking daddy how much longer is it and and she's getting a phone out yeah and she's just
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and she's just oh i'm just going to the kitchen you can carry on watching it and she just it
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just doesn't come back yeah it's it's it's everything has become so shit but anyway right
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the point is no i was going somewhere this um so i did that for hollywood and i thought okay
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well what about um what about government do the same so i got all the ais to say right if i was
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running government and i wanted to alienate the voters how would i do it well actually i typed in
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i've just become the head of governments all of them i want to alienate the voters how do i do it
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and what they said was um say one thing before an election do the opposite afterwards stop
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explaining decisions like the chagos deal i mean presumably right just don't explain it oh we're
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just doing it we've just got to do it yes yeah but don't say why um appear to prioritize elite
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opinions over the concerns of ordinary voters dismiss criticism rather than engaging with it
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create different standards for different groups i mean again does any of this sound like the sort
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of thing that actually happens uh focus on symbolic politics while visible day-to-day
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problems remain unsolved make accountability diffuse over promise and under deliver become
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disconnected from everyday experiences ignore feedback after repeated electoral warnings
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i mean it's literally every one of them yes there's not one there that isn't this
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yes and but but i mean this is the the conquest third law it's like it's it's so easy to explain
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the actions of any big organization if you assume it is a run by cabal of his enemies who are
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deliberately trying to destroy it right so then i thought oh what did i do next oh mainstream media
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yeah i did that right so um shift to reporting um narratives uh treat audience distrust as pathology
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so you know there's something wrong with the audience um become socially uh homogeneous
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um you're not the country obviously uh but the people the people who work at the press
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this is about the standards that they all hold nobody's allowed to hold any standards other than
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the one defining one yes exactly even it doesn't matter if you work at the guardian or the mail or
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the tory graph you all have the same set of values um make obvious double standards visible replace
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public interest of the elite consensus maintenance substitute fat checking for epistemic honesty
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uh basically what i'm saying that what the a's were saying there was um was the point i made
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earlier in your episode make sure you're technically correct but you narrow the frame of what you're
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talking about so that it actually ends up doing the opposite or whatever it is that you're that
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you're talking about um and and uh yeah become hostile to uh disintermediation so you know the
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the the old media and stuff and it's like again
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is the media if if we assume that the media is controlled by kabbalah of its enemies
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is any of this true i mean i i have a few reference points well enemies to who um the the readers
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oh yeah yes right so um anyway so um then i thought i'll have a go with the police and
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criminal justice right so if you if you police and criminal justice was run by a cabal of its
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enemies and why i actually typed this look i've become the head of police and the courts and i
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want to alienate citizens how do i do it um under police serious crime over police speech and
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protest make two-tier policing the core uh make criminal justice feel theoretical manage language
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display small clarity uh make courts and police visible agents of state preference
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so this ai is a bit good yes i mean you know those in power of color have been using it quite
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a lot as a roadmap uh well or they are actually a cabal of our enemies all that yes that could
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also be true uh big tech um you know well blah blah blah you've done a few of these now but you
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know platform becomes you know choke points and all that kind of stuff um so anyway the point is
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is every time i threw something at it to say look i've you know i've just been put in charge of i
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don't know bloody fifa or something i want to make people hate whatever it is any anything that i
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threw at it is like i've now become head of whatever how do i make i should have done israel
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anyway whatever i threw at it and i said okay now i want to make the sort of core people that are
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supposed to support this hate me it always came up with a list of exactly everything those
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organizations are doing right which is a bit disturbing um so what i decided to do is i've
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decided to add more laws to robert conquest's three laws of politics i've decided they now
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need to be five laws i mean i suppose i can't technically do that because i am not a conquest
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but i am identifying for the purpose of this as a conquest and therefore i'm adding i'm adding
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two extra laws so the the first one i'm adding is any organization not explicitly
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and constitutionally political who sooner or later become political um except for any
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organization that actually is political and that will become parasitical um i actually
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reasonable assumption yeah some sense in there i actually wanted to say autophagic but um
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nobody knows what that means but that's a slightly better word for it anyway so um
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anything not political will just become political as it grows yeah and it will go down the political
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route of everything except politics itself which only wants to survive by consuming the underlying
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substrate i.e the voters so uh right so then i was thinking okay how can we actually do something
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about any of this right so with mainstream media that that actually isn't too bad because if you
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about mainstream media it started getting replaced like the moment the internet appeared
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and and that is going on quite well so you can replace mainstream media volt medium that's fine
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that's easy enough you can do that uh hollywood it's a little bit harder right but it's getting
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easier to make indie films as i mean you just mentioned a moment ago like three films you've
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you've seen recently that yeah mainly original ideas done by auto types uh not all of them indie
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but obsession was made with less than a million dollars which is remarkable especially when you
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see the turnaround with it being making like 400 million dollars return that's was made for less
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than a million it's made for 750 000 which is remarkable it makes it it's only got about four
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characters and it's got like four sets as well but it works really hard within those constraints
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to make something really good and i think i think hollywood obviously the big studios like marvel
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may take a little bit of time but other studios within hollywood at least one bean counter within
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these studios must be going we are losing millions of dollars every film that we make
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spielberg put out a film earlier this year oh yes yeah anybody watch it no then what was it
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it was disclosure day i didn't even realize it was a spielberg film right i haven't even heard
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they can't even rely on spielberg with an original property anymore to make money so they're probably
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going right we need to reduce budgets and rely on the like low budget high concept with good
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auto filmmakers and that will make money back i mean also as well the the hundreds of millions
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thought would fail because it was based on a bloody
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compelling characters there's a fun simple easy to understand plot it's got great pace it looks
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good there's incredible action it's just what happened was the filmmakers went let's make
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something really cool yeah and they made something really cool i mean it occurs to me that if they
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really made obsession with less than a million then instead of supergirl that cost 175 you could
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split that up and you could go to 175 filmmakers and say look here's a million make a little film
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and you would almost certainly get at least one out of those that would do quite well and like
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two or three do semi well and even if the rest bomb you're going to outperform supergirl yeah
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well this is this is the obsession was i think financed by blumhouse and that is the blumhouse
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production model that's why their films can be so successful yeah they'll finance like 20 films
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all at the same time will go you each get a tiny tiny budget and then one of them inevitably just
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makes hundreds of millions of dollars that's why they've been so that's kind of the vc model you
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just fire lots of little things and you know that most of them are going to fail but one of them
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will make it really big but anyway hollywood doesn't do that so anyway so hollywood can be
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replaced big tech kind of replaces itself but it starts to get extremely difficult when you get to
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things like police and courts and the government i mean in theory it's supposed to be easy to
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replace the government you just vote wouldn't that be nice yes but every single you know every
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single time we do comments people sort of push back on the idea that voting is going to change
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anything and and and then i was minded to remember that the americans have got their birthday coming
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up yes it's on the way isn't it saturday is what two days two days two days so um the americans
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are going to well the country america is about to become a young adult or whatever it is um
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america can finally drink yes 250 years i mean it's not like not like whatever we are what 1500
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oh over 1100 coming okay fair enough or chinese who are like 3000 years old yeah but 250 no you
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you can probably drink at that age um so so well done american anyway so i was minded of um mr
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jefferson um and there's a letter which i got the letter in the link somewhere um but he wrote so he
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writes a letter to this chap and it's quite a good one and i've got an abridged version of it here
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and he's like um you know blah blah blah acknowledge receipt of your favors and
01:20:40.720
whatever um the british ministry oh and this kind of relevant the british ministry of of so long
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high gazette gazetteers the press uh to repeat the model into every form of lies about us being
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in anarchy and the world at length has believed them the english nation has believed them ministers
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themselves have come to believe them and what is more wonderful we have come to believe them
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ourselves so he's got a bit there about the press and about how it manipulates opinion all that kind
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of stuff he's very good he's jefferson um anyway then we get to the uh the good bit uh where he's
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saying you know god forbid we should ever be 20 years without a rebellion because he kind of
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recognizes that things tend to go off the rails i mean he he's kind of preempted my fourth and
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fifth laws of conquest uh but you know it basically it just becomes parasitical after a
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certain amount of time and he goes on to say um and and what country can preserve its liberties
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if their rulers are not warned from time to time uh that their people preserve the spirit of
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resistance uh yes and and and then and then the bit that is always quoted uh what signifies a few
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lies lost in a century or two the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood
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of patriots and tyrants it's a natural manure it's as natural as manure yes yeah uh i think he's
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right it was an interesting he had a very interesting relationship with the french
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revolution it's interesting to see how his theory about it evolved over time but a conversation for
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another time well yes um and and then finally while i still have the ai's open um because
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because we get this comment below our videos all the time like 50 people will make this comment
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and think oh you know i made an original comment because they've noticed that hundreds of other
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people have made it but we always get this you're not voting your way out of this
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what do you guys think well we have to yes i hope so uh anyway so then i got the ais to
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impersonate robert conquest and thomas jefferson to give me what they would think
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um and and apparently uh robert conquest would say voting is necessary but not decisive unless
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victoria's political force is explicitly designed to discipline purge restructure
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doing like a brokonomics you know like Glenn Beck
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figure I'm sure I could get a bit spicier than Jefferson
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Jefferson he was pretty spicy to be fair I mean I was gonna say yeah there are some pretty spicy
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Jefferson quotes yeah yes they are they are very good um but I mean hopefully so hopefully so
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because I mean I mean this is this is a kind of a problem that stems from from everything from
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mainstream media to to Hollywood to government to the police it's like all of them they've all
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they've all turned in on themselves yeah and are consuming themselves they've all become parasitical
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and they all have contempt yes for everyone outside and i'm less worried about media because
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we're just replacing it anyway and i'm a little bit less worried about hollywood because new
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films are just popping up um but when you apply that same logic to government it starts to get
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a bit worrying and i just kind of hope that we can vote our way out of it and and i'm sticking
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to that that we will be able to vote our way out of it because the alternative um as mr jefferson
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says yes theoretically parliamentary sovereignty means that we could yes theoretically so let's
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let's hope that in in their death throes the existing government doesn't cut off that bit of
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um that bill it's a political release like they are with the afd in germany right now
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all right any of the comedy things got players of the old eagle says the difference
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at what the French were doing because of the wanton
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heard of what was actually happening they all went
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That's a random name. Oh I'm supposed to say
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I'm supposed to read his things as if I'm saying it
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the flying crocodile, which I think was a Roald Dahl character
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government is simple, just remove all their security
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I could have done that for any of them. Problem
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just sounds like rhetoric i was aware that he'd been to prison i didn't know it was because he'd
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sold drugs near a high school i'm hoping that he is well and truly turned his uh turned his life
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around since then yes i also say um the only way a woman can save a man is by saving him from hunger
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with a good meal uh yes i do say that oh and gm gunther again very generous man earlier who um
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and Gouthier sounds like it's probably more accurate.
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is all that countryside around the factory at Thornhill Lees.
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and their crops were being killed by the smoke.
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because Kilners couldn't turn the furnaces off.
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Three quarters of the population of Thornhill Lees
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even if a true right-wing government gets into power
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says no one that describes what he's selling to his audience
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using drug terms has turned their life around now again i'm not defending what he did i'm glad he
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went to prison for it uh frankly but there is a big difference between using like youtube rhetoric
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and actually selling drugs to children and it sounds like he used to do the latter but doesn't
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anymore and he went to prison for it which is good somebody in the comments is saying that he turned
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his life around after reading lord of the rings many people have yes very good have we got any
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comments of the the people yeah do you want to just read one from one or two from your segment
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oh yeah uh omar award patriots could donate to each other in person cash in hand and the
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telegraph would write articles about how alt-right extremists are exploiting the royal mint and fiat
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country currency to fund racism or yes they certainly would lord inquisitor hector rex
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between this and carl's video last night haven't watched it so i don't know what you're on about
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seems like reform and hope not hate are closely intertwined as hope not hate still vetting
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candidates for reform i remember that whole story i mean this just seems like a uniform attack
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against restore and the people who support it and just another blatant attempt by frankly zionists
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to de-platform people who aren't for who aren't towing their line i think the whole thing is
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disgusting i think the telegraph should be ashamed and considered disgraced uh from my segment uh
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Journalism more and more should be called urinalism
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because it really is just taking the piss.
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Blackest descendant, having met you in person now.
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it sounds like someone's trying to summon a demon.
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These villainous politicians still think that the public are angry
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It's unthinkable to them that we should consider
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the cleansing of the English as not in our own best interest.
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They just don't feel like they're in a position
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to actually have their power threatened right now,
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Do you want to go through just one or two for your segment, Dan?
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Yes, in capital letters and in three exclamation marks.
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And he says, I was looking forward to the Odyssey
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until I found out about how atrociously Nolan was bending the legend
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Even outside of everything else, the true secret?
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nolan's not made a good film since the dark knight and even the writing for that was kind
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of dog shit was that the one with the joker that died in real life yes yes yes that was a good one
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it was it was a very good film don't question any of the thing don't think about any of the
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scenes that are happening on screen for more than five seconds or it'll all fall apart
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i would say that nolan is probably the most overrated filmmaker ever yeah that's quite
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possible i am quite intrigued by what they're going to do with um oh the little one ellie yes
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ellen page yes have you seen she's been boxing lately on the social media it has passed my
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timeline they've managed to find somebody um i think it's an actual man who is as small as she
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is so that doesn't give the impression she's only like five foot one well yeah she's a girl well
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yes yes yeah and the annoying thing about that is they keep showing pictures of her now contrasted
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with pictures of what she used to look like and it's just one of those horrible reminders of
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oh yeah you were really pretty once yes tragedy i mean she would have gone past 30 at some point
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anyway so oh she'd look basically the same anyway yes but i do but i think it would be really funny
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if she's like achilles or whatever it is i mean it'd be funny if she played any male character
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to be honest i'm pretty sure she is because she's in the trailer now oh is she doing so i didn't
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doing swordy stuff right right doing swordy stuff well actually somebody's pointing a sword at her
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so maybe she tried to fight and it lasted like a second we don't know yet and i'm not going to
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watch so i'll never know uh actually quite a funny uh comment to just end with here dan
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from your segment geordie swordsman says dan's daughter looking at the on-off switch for his
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life support well he did make me watch thor love and thunder yep yeah absolutely well thank you
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for joining gentlemen i hope you've enjoyed the show ladies and gentlemen as well and look forward
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to seeing you on the podcast tomorrow take care