The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1453

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters episode 1453 particularly terrible year

00:00:27.720 with the fall of constantinople so uh in the chat how are we going to take it back uh we are

00:00:33.400 joined today on thursday the 2nd of july 2026 by dan hello and harry oh all right this is a wave

00:00:44.200 of tiredness would you like a nap are you offering no i'm sure you can go through my segment it'll be

00:00:49.940 fine uh what's your segment about wing it through yeah well luca can tell everyone that yeah well

00:00:54.320 today we're going to be talking how about how the conservative media has struck again

00:00:59.200 for the left and to do the left's work because they really are there is no genuine disagreement

00:01:05.000 between them uh we're then going to talk about the new asylum system that will last for over a

00:01:09.920 thousand years and then we're going to be discussing why does everything fail yes which

00:01:15.660 i'm sure is a very i'm going to seamlessly connect supergirl to thomas jefferson well we

00:01:21.020 look forward to see that transition it's gonna be like you know you know always sunny where he's

00:01:25.640 just there with a map and everything's like struggle to make it easier myself i go via

00:01:29.640 robert conquest oh yes that will help that will help so before we begin ladies and gentlemen i

00:01:35.760 just want to let you know again we have part three now of rhyme of the ancient mariner up on the

00:01:39.980 website it's been some really really enjoyable work that i've put out there people have been

00:01:44.600 really enjoying it um in the third part as well one of the things that's so remarkable about

00:01:49.780 this poem Rhyming the Ancient Mariner by Coleridge is the fact that it's a very reactionary piece of

00:01:54.980 work it's really Coleridge creating this poem and launching the romanticist movement as an antidote

00:02:02.100 to the scientific reductionism and materialism that had basically been you know cast out because

00:02:08.540 of the enlightenment into society and so what Coleridge is attempting to do is really go back

00:02:14.140 to an older more noble more supernatural more spiritual uh viewer way of seeing the world and

00:02:21.380 the interdependency of man and nature and also as well uh the the mariner's journey as a voyage of

00:02:27.320 faith and so i think it's um it's a very very philosophically rich piece of work and i encourage

00:02:33.100 you to go and check out my broader thoughts on it uh with all that said then oh and of course it's

00:02:38.680 a banger iron maiden song oh yeah obviously yeah yeah so yes i was getting confused with that yes

00:02:43.100 anyway harry over to you sir just give me a moment for the coffee to hit okay i don't know what's

00:02:48.300 come over me chaps but it's all right you can fill you can fill the moment while it's waiting

00:02:52.040 for hit you know dream team dream team should i actually bluff your segment i can pull up the

00:02:58.200 notes now that would be something if we also about segments um something about fundraising

00:03:05.700 oh god i can't do it yeah no no i've seen the j word i i yes sadly that will be a prominent

00:03:12.360 feature of this segment uh unavoidably so it's not my fault but we know what the uh the cook

00:03:18.580 servatives are like the so-called conservative media and uh they are at it again with this which

00:03:25.100 uh was a few days old now on the 28th of june the telegraph released an article they published

00:03:31.780 this new article far-right extremist exploiting buy me a coffee fundraising app and when i say

00:03:37.560 they're at it again what what do i mean well i mean the so-called conservative media are

00:03:44.020 punching as hard as possible to anything remotely to their right instead of attacking

00:03:51.320 the left which you would expect them to do i wouldn't even say they're punching these people 0.72

00:03:57.380 they are duplicitously sneaking around so they can stab them in the back because the telegraph

00:04:03.360 alongside a number of the other publications that I'll refer to here

00:04:06.200 are the kinds of newspapers that will routinely publish articles

00:04:11.960 about migrant crime, the disenfranchisement of native Europeans

00:04:18.300 within their own nations.

00:04:19.860 But then if you threatened to actually do something about it,

00:04:23.840 if you wanted to organise a political movement

00:04:26.660 or support a political party that says that they want to do something about it,

00:04:31.080 then the telegraph are going to go hell for leather against you and they are not going only

00:04:36.500 going to try and cancel you they are going to try and ruin your ability to make money

00:04:41.180 so that you die in a gutter penniless which is just frankly just like what the what the

00:04:49.220 conservative media have been doing for decades at this point i suppose it does sort of make sense

00:04:53.240 because let me let's say you figured out how to end homelessness the number one people trying to

00:04:58.800 stop you would be all the homeless charities and organizations the problem the problem with that

00:05:02.700 is that the telegraph had actually uh many people may not know this the telegraph is actually a very

00:05:07.200 old newspaper yes that had been publishing newspapers since before migrant crime was

00:05:12.560 really a big hot button issue and so you could say that they would just be able to go back to

00:05:17.780 reporting on other what news they don't do that anymore no and so i mean and it's very very clear

00:05:23.500 why all this is happening because they even highlight a particular element of the rhetoric

00:05:27.740 used by the people they're going against in this Twitter post that they put here.

00:05:32.920 Again, this was important enough for them to highlight it here.

00:05:36.000 Fundraising platform designed to help fans support struggling artists and performers

00:05:39.240 is being exploited by far-right activists, the telegraph can reveal.

00:05:44.400 Presumably far-right activists inspired by the kinds of news stories that you publish.

00:05:49.920 The activists using the platform include one who has called for all British Jews to be deported. 0.96

00:05:55.280 Interesting that that's what they highlight.

00:05:57.740 you'd think that amongst all of the other rhetoric that these people that the people they reference

00:06:03.120 here bandy about that you know you'd just be able to say uh anti they're racist they're bigots but

00:06:08.780 they highlight that which is a little interesting i mean steve laws wants to deport about 25 million

00:06:12.980 people and the telegraph are focusing on steve laws when it comes to 230 000 it's not personal

00:06:18.020 like it is steve laws wants to deport mixed race people with at least one english parent so you'd

00:06:24.480 that that would be something that they would want to highlight there's only like 230 000 jews in

00:06:28.480 britain so that they focus on that aspect of it they're referring to the andrew gold

00:06:33.440 interview really where andrew gold yeah asks him well you know i'm jewish so would you deport me

00:06:39.520 and steve's like well you're not originally from england so yeah i suppose so and it's just like

00:06:44.320 they they just kind of like you know andrew to be fair to him actually takes it in his stride

00:06:48.480 yeah like you know what that's consistent so whatever yeah um but let's let's read through

00:06:53.920 some of the article and some of the people that they are

00:06:55.980 talking about here and highlighting.

00:06:58.120 Buy me a coffee platform. It's been used

00:07:00.020 to raise thousands by white

00:07:01.880 supremacists and campaigners who have thrown

00:07:03.980 their support behind Restore

00:07:05.880 Britain. So this is another stealth

00:07:07.660 article

00:07:09.860 against Restore. Thousands?

00:07:12.260 Thousands of pounds? Wow, it sounds

00:07:13.900 like there's a lot of public attention out there

00:07:16.040 that want to support people who do this

00:07:17.940 sort of work. You would think that

00:07:19.960 that would be some kind of, like, if you want to talk about

00:07:21.900 democratic mandates the actual people supporting people financially would suggest that there's some

00:07:26.800 kind of you know public interest in all of this uh but no not when it's for the wrong ideas

00:07:31.660 restore which was founded by rupert low after he was suspended by reform split the right-wing vote

00:07:37.600 with nigel farage's party in the makerfield by-election the divide helped labor's andy

00:07:43.260 burnham to win which in turn prompted keir starmer's resignation that's an actual quote

00:07:47.540 that's an actual paragraph from this article um which is bollocks that's a lie yes yes that's

00:07:56.020 as an absolute majority yes got 55 of the vote restore only got 6.8 of the vote reform got what

00:08:06.720 about 34 to 35 of the vote so even if there had been no split labor would have won handily no

00:08:14.280 matter what all of the other parties may as well have not run at all even even farage in his

00:08:18.880 concession speech didn't go for the line of well if you hadn't split the vote with a one because

00:08:23.460 it was observably not true yes farage went with a different tack which was you know we said we

00:08:28.140 wanted to get starmer out and i suppose labor decided they wanted to get starmer out as well

00:08:32.360 he took it in kind of stride to be honest um but yeah that is as blatant a lie i have ever read

00:08:40.540 in any news article ever at least with other news at least with the guardian they kind of 0.96

00:08:46.020 try and dress it up through rhetoric that is just bullshit well normally papers that they're painful

00:08:51.720 technically correct but just omit the frame in order to sort of tell a broader lie but i mean 0.57

00:08:57.880 they're doing both now so the the fact that the telegraph has descended to the point where

00:09:02.160 the editor the the editorial board of the telegraph the editor of the telegraph

00:09:06.600 is more than willing to just let bollocks slip into articles like that.

00:09:11.520 Like you say, not even editorial mistelling of the truth, just a lie.

00:09:16.360 It just goes to show where the Telegraph is at when it comes to attacking these activists

00:09:22.680 and also attacking Restore as a party because of their association with these activists.

00:09:27.400 It highlights Lucy White, who's a friend of the show, has appeared on us very recently,

00:09:33.620 who fundraises on buy me a coffee with her page stating that she's on a mission to get the country

00:09:39.700 back to normality which apparently is just a heinous thing for the telegraph to want to do

00:09:46.260 because it might you danny might be right it might just be like well if the country gets back to 0.65

00:09:50.060 normality how are we supposed to be constantly throwing out red meat through our articles so

00:09:54.300 she describes herself on bmac as focusing on policies to reverse legal and illegal migration

00:10:00.840 and Restoring Our Demographic Security,

00:10:03.420 also focusing on halal and kosher meat. 0.92

00:10:07.220 Pretty sensible.

00:10:07.880 Another little thing adding to the tally

00:10:10.960 of what this is adding up to.

00:10:12.800 Another BMAC fundraiser is Connor Tomlinson,

00:10:15.720 regular on the show,

00:10:17.420 former full-time presenter for us,

00:10:20.840 a good friend of everyone here,

00:10:22.480 a restore-linked activist and proponent

00:10:24.320 of the quote-unquote

00:10:25.420 Great Replacement conspiracy theory,

00:10:27.860 which posits that the shadowy elites 0.79

00:10:29.720 are using African and Asian immigrants to undermine Western society.

00:10:33.960 Now, if this was The Guardian, that's where they would stop with this article, 1.00

00:10:38.080 with this paragraph on Connor, right?

00:10:40.340 They add in a little extra sentence at the end here.

00:10:44.280 He has also previously endorsed a ban on circumcision.

00:10:49.680 Weird addition.

00:10:51.780 Well, it's not exactly a traditional British practice.

00:10:54.180 it's no i'd say outside of arab and middle eastern states it's pretty unusual oh and also

00:11:02.920 the united states of america but that's that's its own kind of way also very weird right there

00:11:08.040 weird yeah very strange thing to include there um i can only assume given that this the whole

00:11:15.340 tenor of this article is that this is uh these people are doing bad things that we can assume

00:11:21.860 that going against not wanting young male babies to be mutilated

00:11:27.480 is a bad thing, according to the Telegraph?

00:11:29.400 Well, I'm still waiting for them to actually list some of the bad things.

00:11:31.620 Well, the whole tone is supposed to be,

00:11:33.860 oh, you know that this is bad, right?

00:11:35.720 You know that this is bad.

00:11:37.380 You know, we at the Telegraph, we love baby boys 0.99

00:11:40.080 having their genitals mutilated. 0.99

00:11:42.300 Not baby girls, but baby boys, 0.99

00:11:45.500 that's two thumbs up from the Telegraph.

00:11:47.180 It's a strange hill to die on Telegraph, I'll just say it.

00:11:49.360 Do you think if I come out against money lending,

00:11:51.860 The Telegraph will write an article about me.

00:11:54.160 Is this you trying to get a full-page spread in the...

00:11:56.800 You are feeling a little bit.

00:11:58.920 I'm so jealous of all these people, including people we know well,

00:12:02.080 who get all these attacks.

00:12:03.780 It'd be a bit hypocritical given your finance background, Dan. 0.85

00:12:07.040 Well, yeah, I just want to get hit-piece. 0.52

00:12:09.000 And I don't know why I don't get them.

00:12:10.500 I never get them.

00:12:11.380 Everybody else gets them.

00:12:12.300 You're too powerful, aura too strong.

00:12:14.420 They're too scared to talk to you, Dan.

00:12:16.500 Clearly, you've just got too many friends in high places.

00:12:18.620 the revelations highlight how far-right extremists appear to be able to use online platforms to fund

00:12:24.100 their activities again the only difference between the telegraph now and the guardian

00:12:28.820 is that the telegraph will go over and above to highlight anything that they consider anti-semitic

00:12:34.760 in what you're doing as well other than that there is no difference between the the telegraph

00:12:39.920 and the guardian they even highlight here they get a quote from alex hearn co-director of labor

00:12:46.560 against anti-semitism what an interesting fellow to decide to specifically go to a to for a quote

00:12:53.480 on the tory graph getting in the labor voices is everybody who's not a member of labor against

00:12:59.560 anti-semitism an anti-semite i assume so either that or as we found out in a recent statement by

00:13:05.380 keir starmer gay i can believe that yes uh he said it's concerning that far-right activists are

00:13:14.020 Not only welcoming Restore, but also using Buy Me A Coffee to raise funds.

00:13:17.680 The platform must remove them and urgently review its procedures so this doesn't happen again.

00:13:21.740 So just to de-platform.

00:13:22.840 The Telegraph coming out, two thumbs up in favour of de-platforming of people's livelihoods. 0.84

00:13:27.900 What, isn't a re-migrationist allowed a little coffee every now and then? 0.99

00:13:31.220 No. 1.00

00:13:31.700 Oh.

00:13:32.600 No, it's only tea for you.

00:13:34.820 After being alerted by the Telegraph, so the Telegraph, independently, I assume,

00:13:40.740 maybe there's some security stuff going in here,

00:13:43.100 But they independently chose to conduct this investigation because they had decided that Connor not wanting baby boys to be mutilated and Lucy White not wanting there to be animal abuse going on in slaughterhouses was too far and beyond the pale.

00:14:03.500 So BMAC has now launched an investigation into the use of its site to raise funds for far right activists in breach of its own rules.

00:14:09.560 So this article and the investigation and them alerting buy me a coffee

00:14:13.640 might actively mean that these people no longer get a livelihood.

00:14:18.120 It might just mean that they want them to be poor and destitute.

00:14:22.720 BMAC told The Telegraph,

00:14:23.960 We appreciate you bringing this to our attention.

00:14:25.780 We have forwarded the information you have provided to our relevant team for review.

00:14:29.120 They will investigate the matter from our end and take any necessary action in accordance with our policies.

00:14:34.700 Meanwhile, The Telegraph continually still runs stories like this.

00:14:38.800 only two days later i'm a white working class male with straight a's in britain i'm a second

00:14:44.640 class citizen and as you can tell the telegraph's heart truly bleeds for a man in a situation like

00:14:50.560 that but as steve points out the telegraph will run these stories then cry when you call for 0.98

00:14:54.760 remigration because it is a scum rag made up of people who absolutely despise you and this is not 0.94

00:15:01.000 an unusual thing we've been hearing for years about different people being de-platformed off 0.98

00:15:06.200 of various um various uh money raising platforms like patreon like when carl got taken off of it

00:15:13.420 years ago now but it's become even more uh prevalent again recently there have been a few

00:15:19.420 examples of it of people trying to do it and there's also been examples of these so-called

00:15:23.540 conservative rags attacking people associated with restore with smears like most recently daily mail

00:15:30.680 very similar to the telegraph they'll run plenty of articles about migrant crime but if you try and 0.54

00:15:35.780 do anything about it, they will go hell for leather to ruin your life. Calling people white supremacists 0.90

00:15:41.620 and neo-Nezis and ethno-nationalists and all sorts because they want to draw attention and 0.82

00:15:47.520 draw a connection between them and Rupert Lowe and Restore, that was a pretty scummy move by

00:15:53.040 the Daily Mail. And in terms of payment processes, it reminds me of a recent one where there was the

00:15:59.060 Canadian platform Entropy, which you may have heard of. People like Nick Fuentes were using

00:16:05.560 it people like owen benjamin were using it blackpilled uh other creators they were using it

00:16:11.820 as one of the only friendly payment processes to be able to get donations through super chats on

00:16:16.880 their videos and i think even aa and people like that were using it for a while as just

00:16:21.320 one alongside the other like super chat functions they were getting on youtube because not everybody

00:16:27.480 wants to donate and give a chunk of their change they're donating to youtube they'd like to use

00:16:32.280 other more friendly platforms to donate their money. SPLC back in 2021 launched an investigation

00:16:38.420 into them, tried to attack them, and then recently it seems that the weight of multiple investigations

00:16:43.380 against them all compounded at once. There was a organization called Fifth Estate, which is in

00:16:50.480 conjunction with the CBC, which I believe is the Canadian state broadcaster, did an investigation

00:16:56.960 into them and have forced them to shut

00:16:59.060 their doors. So, Entropy,

00:17:01.200 the creators of which were forced to basically

00:17:03.180 flee to the state of Georgia,

00:17:05.040 not North American Georgia, like

00:17:07.080 Georgia in the Forcuses.

00:17:09.720 Yeah. They were forced to flee

00:17:11.100 over there and were then left in a

00:17:13.040 really difficult situation because they had a load

00:17:15.000 of money that they needed to pay out to all of the

00:17:17.040 creators who were using them, but

00:17:18.980 they were under investigation and they had

00:17:21.020 no ability to do so and just had to

00:17:22.820 overnight shut their doors. Now, I'm aware that that has

00:17:24.740 now been sorted

00:17:26.920 out people have received the money that was owed to them but it was putting these people into a

00:17:31.640 really difficult position just because they were helping people to get donations make a livelihood

00:17:37.400 talking about things that the mainstream establishment do not want you talking about

00:17:43.580 you know so this is this this is a pretty horrifying thing that mainstream platforms

00:17:49.540 including so-called conservative platforms are actively going after people's ability to make a

00:17:54.400 living highlighting the problems within society that we all face happily i did see that even some

00:18:00.520 of the reform guys who um you know like jack hadfield who we've had on the show uh a few

00:18:05.660 times in the past but has uh gone very much for reform whereas lotus eaters has gone more for

00:18:10.700 restore which has caused some division but i was very glad to see some of those dividing lines

00:18:14.640 bridged a little bit when people like jack uh honorably came out and said you know that this

00:18:19.840 is a horrible, horrible article. I've disagreed before with those names, but people should be

00:18:24.340 free to choose who they back financially. New round of financial oppression for everybody on

00:18:29.640 the right could be the result of this. Nobody should support this on principle. So it was great

00:18:33.820 to see Jack and others come out with principled responses to this. Connor, who was, of course,

00:18:38.500 a target of the article, pointed out that they said that his only response to this was that,

00:18:43.780 oh, it smears, when in fact he showed some DMs here

00:18:47.300 of the author of the article getting in touch with him,

00:18:51.060 saying, well, here's the thing that I'm going to say about you,

00:18:54.700 which left out a load of the extra stuff that they added in,

00:18:58.580 and Conor's response pointing out that,

00:19:00.620 hey, this reads a lot like the hope-not-hate articles

00:19:03.820 that have been written about me.

00:19:05.080 So the so-called conservative Tory graph

00:19:09.240 has been referring to hope-not-hate articles

00:19:12.560 for its research on these people or these hit piece smears against them connor released the

00:19:18.540 response and said here's all of this extra material that you can look at so i can explain

00:19:22.220 my position properly did they include any of it no this is just dishonesty of the greatest

00:19:29.100 um of the greatest level and frankly the telegraph should probably be referred to some kind of

00:19:36.100 independent standards board although to be fair i know when it comes to the newspapers in britain

00:19:40.320 I believe the independent regulators of it are the newspapers themselves, so there is no independent body that this could be referred to, but this is one of the most egregious and disgraceful pieces of journalism and editorialising that I've ever seen in my entire life, and frankly the telegraph should shut down, they should shut their doors as a part of it, but it won't, and if you're wondering why there was so much focus on the anti-Zionist or anti-Semitic elements of some of these people that they were talking about,

00:20:09.900 Would it surprise you to know that the holding company, Axel Springer SE, which is a German media group, has a CEO called Matthias Dopfner, who spoke at the World Jewish Congress Governing Board meeting in May this year, in which he said,

00:20:25.520 i am a goy and i am a zionist which is interesting kind of shows you the general direction that the

00:20:32.980 telegraph wants to take and the guiding north star principles that it takes when goy is actually like

00:20:39.500 the insult term as everybody learned when the epstein files were released you know if he'd said

00:20:44.960 i am a gentile but he's actively using the derogatory term to describe himself of course 0.70

00:20:51.200 he's german which means that he has a complex sadly as many germans do but this kind of self

00:20:58.100 deprecating self-loathing hatefulness towards himself which then gets spread out to other

00:21:05.320 people and then the telegraph's main editorial line now seems to be destroy anybody who isn't 0.58

00:21:11.280 just a blood and soil zionist yeah well and also disgusting surely surely at this point if this is 0.71

00:21:17.980 the direction that the telegraph is taking how can it be described as anything but some form of 0.94

00:21:22.440 captured foreign-based media group that are operating connor did the trip though didn't he

00:21:27.680 he got the seven grand and did the trip uh many people would like to accuse him of so but he did

00:21:33.880 go to the didn't he talk about it openly he did go to he did go to israel i doubt i don't know if

00:21:38.880 there was an exchange of seven thousand pounds isn't that the going rate for going um uh sadly

00:21:44.300 perhaps connor's just not as great a negotiator as you would be i'm sure that you'd have been

00:21:47.860 able to haggle it up to at least 21 grand it's not a matter of money for dan it's more i will

00:21:53.020 haggle my way to a certain amount of hit pieces no if they pay me say 50 grand i'd totally go

00:21:58.860 okay but i'm sorry i don't see how in a situation like this where the telegraph's new editorial

00:22:04.980 line is directed the way that it is how it's not looked in the same way that rt is how is this not

00:22:11.380 just foreign sponsored media frankly yeah that should be banned from this country this is

00:22:18.460 disgraceful this is disgusting they're trying to take english men and women who have genuinely 0.99

00:22:24.160 genuine concerns for the state of their country they're trying to smear them with pathetic 0.99

00:22:29.200 attempts at calling them anti-semites and ruin their livelihoods and potentially again knock-on 0.59

00:22:35.080 effects for everybody else to the right of mao who uses buy me a coffee it's absolutely disgraceful

00:22:41.360 you should never look at the telegraph again 0.99

00:22:43.420 it is an absolute shit rag 1.00

00:22:45.500 not worth wiping your arse with 1.00

00:22:47.700 there you go 1.00

00:22:50.720 well sad

00:22:51.180 do you want to go through

00:22:53.220 I think I'd want 70 grand to kiss the wall

00:22:55.220 and if they put up a little screen

00:22:57.620 and gave me I don't know a couple of hundred grand 0.76

00:22:59.600 I'd do obscene things to that wall

00:23:01.300 well at least they now know 0.77

00:23:03.460 your price

00:23:04.160 so reach out

00:23:05.380 whoever needs to organise

00:23:07.560 oh and thank you very much to GM Gunther

00:23:10.180 yes because he he gifted 10 subscriptions that is incredibly generous thank you very much sir

00:23:15.720 yes excellent apart from number two went to input username now and halfway through your segment he

00:23:21.460 said something in the chat like um i feel like dan's face right now and whatever that i don't

00:23:26.340 know what that means but i'm a bit suspicious i think it's because you looked disappointed and

00:23:30.540 slightly harrowed at the information oh oh that oh i don't mind that that's a random name you can

00:23:35.680 judge a man by his enemies which reminds me of oh no he's for legal reasons it's a joke yes

00:23:40.720 um i remember that song uh that's a random name again dan if you want a full pray uh page spread

00:23:47.780 hit peace uh hit peace just read my super chats but pretend that you said it that's a good point

00:23:52.500 actually all right okay fair enough no no don't don't dan says dan if you want a full page spread

00:23:58.480 hit please just read my uh super chats but pretend you said it there you go yeah well yeah good start

00:24:04.280 good start

00:24:04.740 hit piece on the way Dan

00:24:05.820 base tape

00:24:07.240 Dan never gets hit pieces

00:24:08.260 against him

00:24:08.920 guys I think I found

00:24:09.960 the fed

00:24:10.440 they can bloody pay me 0.93

00:24:13.520 then can't they 0.98

00:24:14.180 come on

00:24:14.820 cough up

00:24:15.520 and sigil stone

00:24:17.200 I don't know if you can

00:24:18.320 I don't know if I can

00:24:19.460 read that one either

00:24:20.440 I don't know if you can

00:24:20.740 read that one

00:24:21.180 for goodness sakes

00:24:21.780 you cannot do that

00:24:24.140 I should read that one

00:24:24.980 as if I said it

00:24:25.780 yeah that

00:24:26.480 hit piece incoming

00:24:27.680 yes

00:24:28.320 alright

00:24:28.740 anyway I think we should

00:24:30.160 move on to the

00:24:31.180 next

00:24:31.900 okay

00:24:32.500 segment 0.99

00:24:33.160 Well, Winston, if you want a picture of the future, imagine the worst scum of the third 1.00

00:24:39.000 world coming to Britain forever, because that is exactly what we're going to be getting. 1.00

00:24:44.760 Now, this has not gone unnoticed by our dear political leaders. Actually, tensions are

00:24:51.400 becoming a little bit fraught, and people are becoming quite fiery out there, both literally

00:24:56.680 and metaphorically. We've seen all sorts of things now, both across Britain and Ireland,

00:25:01.680 with i believe there was a cafe in blackburn burnt down recently living up to its name because of its

00:25:09.360 islamic ties and there was also obviously uh mosques in dublin as well and so on and so forth

00:25:16.360 and it's just with everything going on with the henry novak situation with everything that boiled

00:25:21.260 over in southampton with everything that happened in belfast it's not just that the crimes and the

00:25:28.040 stories are becoming more monstrous it's the fact that they're also becoming more frequent as well

00:25:33.680 it feels like the chance to just breathe and just process what's happening to us is being snatched

00:25:40.580 away at quite the pace now and kia starmer was in parliament uh just the other day and it was

00:25:46.340 he was claiming that well racism and intolerance has worsened in britain over the past decade and

00:25:51.740 that is undoubtedly true uh and this is something that shabana mahoud has also you know said and

00:25:58.300 you know what it used to be that thing that people used to say oh well you know the problem with the

00:26:03.580 dei and the woke stuff is that they want all of this demand for racism but unfortunately they

00:26:09.200 can't meet that demand it's like well honestly based on some of the things that you're hearing

00:26:13.600 from reform councillors and just you know local members of the public during voxpox these days

00:26:19.380 when they speak to owen jones it does seem like the that that long very famous patience and

00:26:26.480 tolerance of the british is beginning to break do we need to up our production then well it's not

00:26:32.780 necessarily anything that i'm going to encourage but i will say that people from other communities

00:26:38.040 are also starting to take notice of it for example we have here this muslim chap who i'll just let 0.97

00:26:44.360 speak for a muslim you have no other option but to leave the uk and move to a muslim country now 0.94

00:26:48.760 Because your sisters, your mother, your wife 1.00

00:26:50.740 She isn't safe when she's going outside 1.00

00:26:52.400 Like if your mother, your sister, your wife is wearing the hijab 1.00

00:26:54.660 She wears niqab, she wears abaya 0.98

00:26:56.260 There is a risk she will get attacked 0.66

00:26:58.580 You can't be with her always

00:26:59.960 And imagine feeling uncomfortable every single time

00:27:02.800 Someone leaves the house

00:27:04.140 Like you cannot live comfortably knowing your family isn't safe

00:27:07.540 Five years ago it was like

00:27:08.820 Ah come on you should try to leave the UK 1.00

00:27:10.440 Make hijrah, Muslim lands 1.00

00:27:11.840 You know three years ago you should try 1.00

00:27:13.580 Now it's like you need to

00:27:15.900 It's so amazing that he has practically shown you

00:27:18.000 in the last five years how things have become worse and worse and only Allah knows how bad

00:27:22.020 it's actually going to become like you guys need to start planning for your get out well I like

00:27:26.140 that guy yes it's it's it's so true you know I would never want to see anything uh like uh horrible

00:27:32.680 happen to any of these people so it probably is for the best that they head somewhere safe

00:27:36.460 better safe than sorry yeah and it's just that every single week just more and more transparency

00:27:41.880 comes out just statistic by statistic percentage by percentage we're just you know regaled

00:27:47.900 with the actual reality of what's being done and as reported here home office researchers found

00:27:53.880 that 76 percent of migrants granted the right to remain in the united kingdom on human rights

00:27:59.380 grounds including under article 8 of the uchr are unemployed so not only has enormous legal funds 0.76

00:28:06.580 being used to allow them to stay in the country often for the most comical reasons such as the

00:28:12.820 chicken nuggets in albania just aren't quite as tasty as those that we have on the swindon high

00:28:17.800 street place but also as well it's when they're actually allowed to stay here as well um they

00:28:25.000 contribute nothing they're still a danger to society and they are for all intents and purposes

00:28:30.000 the reason why the british community the british people are more and more fearing for their

00:28:36.140 children for their daughters as was something that came up time and time again when i was on

00:28:40.680 the ground in makerfield the safety for families and this is in a place that isn't even particularly

00:28:46.120 diverse but they see what's going around in the rest of the country and they know that it's only

00:28:51.660 a matter of time before it comes to their doorstep as well. Femi answer to this I thought

00:28:58.840 you said that if we got rid of migrants that the UK would collapse because they're nothing but a

00:29:04.280 net benefit financially can you explain this for me please Femi I can't quite wrap my head around

00:29:09.560 those two same ideas at once presumably I'm just not smart enough. Yes we'd welcome your thoughts

00:29:15.420 And then in a blinding bit of news

00:29:18.140 And I swear to god you won't hear me say this

00:29:20.140 Again for quite a while

00:29:21.320 But some actual genuinely good journalism

00:29:23.940 From the BBC

00:29:24.980 Yeah just today

00:29:26.980 So basically the BBC have been about

00:29:29.020 And found this chap

00:29:32.160 Here

00:29:32.800 Who was an actual people smuggler 0.96

00:29:35.540 And is one of the reasons why so many of them 0.96

00:29:38.140 Were able to come over from France

00:29:39.560 Does he work at the Home Office?

00:29:40.720 Well have a listen to my answer

00:29:42.080 Do the Home Office know your real identity?

00:29:45.420 Twana Jamal. Yes. The Home Office know that you're a convicted people smuggler. Smuggler? Yeah. I never.

00:29:55.580 Do the Home Office know your real identity Twana Jamal? I think it just went back to the beginning for some reason. Okay. The Home Office know that you're a convicted people smuggler? Smuggler? Yeah. I never.

00:30:04.920 you've not served time in prison in france the tuana jamal we saw convicted in france in 2016.

00:30:12.120 okay we we know the court records we've seen the pictures of you have you told the home office

00:30:18.600 that you're a convicted people smuggler i never did i never did that you never did people smuggling

00:30:25.000 the courts in france estimate you were the most prolific people smuggler they'd come across

00:30:29.560 You earned more than a million pounds.

00:30:31.560 What's the proof? What's the proof?

00:30:33.560 When they arrested you in France,

00:30:35.560 police were injured in the arrest.

00:30:39.560 And now you're in Britain.

00:30:41.560 Why are you claiming asylum?

00:30:43.560 Why do you want to be in Britain?

00:30:45.560 I've been here for a long, long time.

00:30:47.560 Yeah, why? Why do you want to be in this country?

00:30:49.560 Because I was not saved by my country,

00:30:51.560 and then I came to this country.

00:30:53.560 Right, but you came to this country via France

00:30:55.560 where you spent years people smuggling.

00:30:57.560 You led one of the biggest people smuggling.

00:30:59.560 so not only has this man spent the best part of you know his years he's only in his 30s you know

00:31:05.060 just spent sending into our country yes the worst most dangerous people that have ever inhabited

00:31:11.540 these islands i do like this bbc news style of going around and asking people why are you in

00:31:16.420 this country yes well the thing is more of that earlier on this year the bbc launched a large

00:31:21.760 three-part investigation looking into the ways in which the asylum system is broken and i would

00:31:26.460 assume that this has come out of that and i will admit the bbc has actually been doing some

00:31:30.300 good work with this stuff like when the bbc decides oh should we do some journalism

00:31:34.880 actually can do good it can do it they're the ones who got that report of um all of the different

00:31:40.680 asylum claims where it was saying that i'm gay and they had some handler giving them a fake

00:31:46.520 boyfriend and getting them to go to a gay club and i mean two things first of all somebody please

00:31:50.600 clip that i'm gay bit and also i mean it's amazing what the bbc can do with only a three

00:31:55.960 billion pound budget yeah dan needs some dan needs a clip to help soothe him to sleep

00:32:00.280 um but also his entire attitude right there's this sort of attitude about him of look you can

00:32:07.960 come at me with all of this but i'm untouchable you're gonna have me on camera you can ask me

00:32:12.560 these questions no one's gonna come for me like you know he he knows because he's seen

00:32:17.380 that when he sends these people to britain that they get the best possible treatment and actually

00:32:23.140 if we go further through the bbc article on this as well goes on to say that's a great screen grab

00:32:28.460 they've chosen for him like when he realizes when he got his phone out started texting i assume he's

00:32:33.220 texting all of his cousins like i need i need out bruv i need out um i mean he's had numerous

00:32:38.540 aliases whilst he's been in france and obviously was you know uh brought to trial by the french

00:32:43.740 court as well but like really take in in this particular bit we narrowed the search for jamal

00:32:48.480 was several sources. One of them arranged a call with Jamal under a false pretext and recorded

00:32:54.180 their conversation. Jamal said he was now based in Leicester and boasted,

00:32:59.060 we know everyone in this city. This city is ours. He was making good money, he continued,

00:33:06.180 and told our contact that there was work to be had moving cigarettes from a warehouse.

00:33:11.980 Jamal also admitted driving a car without a license, but said he was not worried about

00:33:16.940 being investigated or caught no one touches us here he said even the police won't stop us

00:33:23.080 oh that's true yes right yeah everyone we are so deep into two-tier policing he's absolutely right

00:33:30.480 and he's connected he's connected the little mini marts as well both named candy corner you know

00:33:35.680 those little yeah those little uh sweet shops that you see on street corners that nobody ever

00:33:39.980 seems to go into like the turkish barbers oh no when it gets dark you do see people turning up

00:33:45.520 going to the counter hungry getting a getting a bag of sweets from under the counter which for

00:33:50.040 somehow not even asking you know for anything in particular and they drive off in expensive

00:33:55.260 german automobiles so some people go bag of sugar yeah and so basically what i'm trying to say is

00:34:02.260 that this guy is just one case study now in thousands that we have accumulated over the years

00:34:08.780 where we've really after years and years of watching the sea people come up to conquer our

00:34:14.260 shores we've really gotten to judge them on the content of their character sorry i just have to

00:34:19.300 highlight this as well just like the part of that same sentence by chance one of these mini marts

00:34:24.360 also stands next door to the constituency office of the local conservative mp yes that's that's

00:34:31.480 amazing like like he doesn't know yeah like he doesn't know and couldn't like mobilize the

00:34:36.700 authorities in the local area to just go hold up there's literally a drugs ring operating right

00:34:42.640 next to my constituency office do you mind just going and sorting that out but they don't because

00:34:46.780 they're cowards um but if by some miracle that this bbc expose actually leads to this man being

00:34:53.200 prosecuted and removed for the country if by some miracle that happens it's still the point that 0.60

00:34:58.920 it would only have happened because it was shoved in the public's face and enough cry was made about

00:35:04.480 it it given their left to their own devices the home office would have absolutely no problem would

00:35:10.420 lose no sleep at night having men like this in the country there he is in France yes in 2016 so

00:35:16.960 yeah that is definitely the same guy yeah um and so then we get the most tone-deaf thing I've ever

00:35:23.860 heard from Shabana Mahmood and the thing we're going to spend the most amount of detail on which 1.00

00:35:27.720 is my goal is simple to ensure we have an asylum system not just today but for generations to come 0.63

00:35:34.900 that is obviously a threat that that is the one of the worst things so even if we did get rid of 0.98

00:35:40.820 jamal yes we've still got shabana and shabana was doing this a scale that would humiliate jamal

00:35:48.160 well she's also going to be shifted around in burnham's cabinet if burning went to the leadership

00:35:52.240 uh race so it'll probably be some other home secretary well apparently she's saying that

00:35:57.400 she wants to stay at the home office for presumably because you can bring in more of a 1.00

00:36:01.360 To continue her good work. 1.00

00:36:02.940 Yes.

00:36:03.380 Yes.

00:36:04.920 To be honest,

00:36:06.380 to be honest,

00:36:08.020 I think she would probably be best suited there

00:36:11.740 because I don't know the changes

00:36:13.420 that you're about to explain

00:36:14.400 regarding the asylum system,

00:36:16.060 but in the Home Office,

00:36:17.280 she would be best placed potentially 0.51

00:36:19.400 to try and retain a lot of the indefinite leave 0.99

00:36:22.600 to remain reforms 1.00

00:36:24.060 that she's been trying to push through, 0.77

00:36:25.400 which could basically push out the Boris wave

00:36:27.900 and stop them from being able to settle in this country. 1.00

00:36:30.080 Well, the thing is, Shabana Mahmood is not a stupid woman, actually. She understands quite well, actually, the fact that not only is the illegal immigration issue terrible, terrible optics for successive governments, but it's also the fact that it threatens to basically blur the lines between the distinction of illegal and legal into just sheer total collective foreign resentment from the British population. 0.76

00:37:00.080 And so in basically trying to clamp down on the issue of the illegals and the worst visible excesses of the problem, them arriving at the shores and being welcomed in, them being put near schools in Epping, all these sorts of things, that by clamping down on the visual signifiers of the problem, that she can actually diffuse attention by some miracle. 0.58

00:37:21.240 even though it won't because people will continue to be raped people will continue to be murdered 0.68

00:37:26.280 and the two-tier system that we live in will still be self-evident everywhere which is of course why

00:37:32.300 they hate x so much because these things are made visible to us every day but to speak then of the

00:37:38.140 reforms to the asylum system uh my reforms will save the asylum system for a generation you need

00:37:45.340 the space there, gov.uk. Standards are falling. New safe and legal refugee routes alongside

00:37:53.780 reforms to human rights and modern slavery laws to prevent abuse of the asylum system.

00:38:00.240 And it goes on to say, the United Kingdom has a proud history of offering sanctuary to refugees

00:38:06.600 fleeing war and persecution. Because you see, we're not actually a country with any sense of

00:38:12.560 heritage or continuity or history of our own no no what britain has always been is just a glorified 0.99

00:38:19.260 refugee camp for the entire world to come to even though the entire world didn't come to it 0.55

00:38:25.200 and it was generally people who were like french and dutch protestants during particularly you know

00:38:30.740 frosty religious times on the continent i wouldn't even say that more more like we're a

00:38:35.200 halfway house for international criminals well that too and uh honestly when you just look at

00:38:41.940 some of the historical figures that britain has given asylum to over the years it really does

00:38:46.280 make you interrogate why even we did that back then even when we had more prudent uh law keepers

00:38:53.600 anyway to to go down it says so home secretary shaban mahoud has said uh britain britain has

00:39:01.880 always offered sanctuary to those fleeing war and persecution but this system only survives

00:39:06.980 if the public trusts that it is fair, controlled, and not open to abuse.

00:39:11.800 First of all, why the hell would we want this system to survive at all, right?

00:39:16.620 The entire premise behind it is that, oh, if we could only get a hold of it,

00:39:21.260 if we could only get a hold of the worst excesses of it, 1.00

00:39:23.800 then the British public would welcome untold numbers of asylum seekers 1.00

00:39:29.540 into Britain until the end of time and Judgment Day. 0.99

00:39:33.560 What she's trying to do is she's trying to embed something 0.91

00:39:35.480 that can survive a reformed government. 0.97

00:39:36.980 Yes. Yes. And it says here, I will open new legal routes for genuine refugees, whilst closing loopholes for those that have too often been abused.

00:39:47.480 My goal is simple, to ensure that we have an asylum system, not just for today, but for generations to come.

00:39:52.600 And this really, and you heard this from the Tories as well, when they saw people coming across on the small boats and, you know, the odd person would drown in the channel, right? 1.00

00:40:03.260 The emphasis and the framing of it was always on, well, we need to close these illegal routes

00:40:08.840 because they're incredibly dangerous for the people crossing. 1.00

00:40:12.300 Not for the people here, not for the British, who are welcoming absolute strangers into their home 0.97

00:40:17.700 with innumerable criminal convictions, as exampled by the BBC case 1.00

00:40:23.740 and many other people that we've covered on the podcast before.

00:40:27.300 But also the fact that with all of this, it's just couching the fact,

00:40:31.080 well if we could just make them legal if these people were just here legally then everything

00:40:37.320 well it's just it's just a question of procedure you see it's just a question of procedure yes

00:40:42.460 um and so it goes on to say a new community sponsorship scheme will allow communities

00:40:49.120 to sponsor refugees to resettle in their area taking responsibility for housing integration

00:40:56.640 and supporting them into work i'm going to stop it right there a new community sponsorship scheme 1.00

00:41:03.620 is what the reality of that is going to look like is that the afghan communities will do absolutely 0.85

00:41:10.060 everything in their power to sponsor afghans coming over the eritreans will do everything

00:41:15.740 they can to get their eritrean kin in and so on and so forth forever well i suppose we could bring

00:41:22.140 back the australians the new zealanders the canadians and the americans the only problem is 0.59

00:41:26.960 is those are not utterly dysfunctional third world countries and therefore they don't need to come 0.96

00:41:31.660 here so the only people who are going to come here are third world people yes and because of 0.99

00:41:37.000 the institutions and the total capture and the two-tier society we do know that it well in some 1.00

00:41:43.160 sense it's like look hey if you want to put it to the community and say do you want this person to

00:41:49.060 be settled and integrated into your environment and the only stamp that we've got is a big fat

00:41:53.880 one that says no on it and is entirely being done by very sensible English people with you know

00:41:59.500 children of their own who are worried about their future then yeah I'm all for people power but we

00:42:04.800 know that's not going to be the reality of the case and it gets worse still where she goes on

00:42:09.880 to say that meanwhile trusted universities will be able to directly sponsor refugees through a

00:42:16.320 study route applications will open this autumn for organizations to sponsor refugees with the 0.93

00:42:22.700 first arrivals in autumn 2027 right i look forward to some grinning sudanese chap uh being brought 0.92

00:42:30.280 into cambridge so so universities which are already in this country a massive ponzi scheme

00:42:35.400 being kept alive by study visas in the first place because otherwise half of them would have

00:42:39.800 to shut down and good riddance to the lot of them are now being given another route through which to

00:42:47.800 keep themselves afloat with but presumably a study route uh organizations to sponsor refugees

00:42:55.000 they're presumably to cover tuition fees either have to have those fees waived which removes the

00:43:01.100 incentive for the universities in the first place or they would need some kind of private or public

00:43:05.780 sponsorship which means it would either come out of private corporations who hate you paying for

00:43:11.500 these fees yes or the government just taking more of my tax money or borrowing more to pay for these

00:43:18.160 fees um okay and and absolutely and also as well we we know that given the very well chronicled at

00:43:26.960 this point corruption within our universities as you say harry that these are people who are going

00:43:31.720 to turn entirely a blind eye if someone isn't genuinely eligible who will just like stamp them

00:43:37.980 through not only because even if by some miracle you actually have a very sensible um elite

00:43:44.640 community of that university the student body of the university are almost you know fundamentally

00:43:53.160 progressive in their thinking and will act as a pressure group in all circumstances to make sure

00:44:00.140 that those actually coming down on the decision make the right decision in all of this as well

00:44:06.420 and so basically all of this is going to be used to bring in more and more people under the auspices

00:44:15.280 of legality when in fact it's just going to be the case that it's going to be entrusted to people

00:44:21.140 who make sure that they do the right thing and say yes to as many as they possibly can.

00:44:26.460 There's a refugee work route expected to open next year,

00:44:29.700 allowing employers to sponsor refugees.

00:44:31.860 Now, the British labour force already has enough of a hard time 1.00

00:44:35.880 already being in competition with the rest of the world

00:44:39.760 for British labour jobs, right?

00:44:42.340 And now they also have to put up with their own employers 0.96

00:44:46.180 now letting refugees be part of the competition as well. 1.00

00:44:51.260 I mean, this is a great windfall for all lovers of cheap, easy labour. 1.00

00:44:55.720 yeah fantastic and so i just wonder just to come back to it do we think that any of this that i'm

00:45:02.060 reading and going through now will help to contribute in kia starmer's diagnosis of the

00:45:08.980 temperature of the country right do we think this is actually going to alleviate any pressure in the

00:45:14.360 public mood whatsoever or do we think that actually the alienation the displacement is just going to

00:45:20.900 become more and more as as particularly the university town no i think a few months in

00:45:25.680 there'll be some horrific incident and then we find out that they were brought in under the

00:45:30.480 maximize the sudanese rwandans and yeah and some afghan scheme yeah my working theory is that part

00:45:38.840 of the reforms that have been put through recently have basically been to try to prevent another

00:45:44.240 southport incident happening because the government barely got a handle on that one

00:45:48.800 and god forbid multiple south ports all happen at the same time because the government definitely

00:45:53.640 won't be able to keep a handle on all of that now this is entirely counterproductive to that

00:45:58.840 and the the reason is simple yeah we used to take in quote-unquote political refugees 0.68

00:46:04.560 for entirely cynical reasons yes because they were the enemies of our enemies at the time

00:46:12.860 We take in people like Karl Marx, because his ideology is destabilizing to the governments on the continent, who are starting to build up massive manufacturing bases, which could threaten the empire. 0.92

00:46:26.060 We take in the Polish government during the Second World War, because they're the enemies of our enemies, and once Hitler has been defeated, we can reinstall them, they owe a debt to England, we can have them in our pocket. 0.83

00:46:36.260 but that sounds far too cynical so at some point somebody decided well let's not say that we're 0.97

00:46:42.420 doing it for our own interest it's because it's british values to help people it's british values 0.66

00:46:47.300 and the people who start that idea know that it's bullshit but then people who didn't come up with

00:46:54.820 that idea who are raised after it just think that that's the truth they believe the propaganda yeah 0.78

00:46:59.480 they believe the propaganda they're raised in it it becomes part of them and so now we do live in 0.96

00:47:05.020 the regime where two or three generations down the line retards who actually think that it's 0.99

00:47:10.040 good to open your open your gates to the entire world because oh i'm gay and i'll get thrown off 0.99

00:47:16.140 a building back home or something that's a moral thing to do let's clip that bit as well 0.92

00:47:21.080 dan's making a compilation but of course this entire thing is just being done to consolidate

00:47:28.680 the foreign strength in the country right because ultimately despite all of the bsbs

00:47:34.680 is ultimately still for cynical reasons.

00:47:37.900 Because those universities, those employers,

00:47:40.040 they're still just bringing them in for cynical reasons.

00:47:42.540 So you can believe whatever you want.

00:47:44.500 The ultimate motivation is still the same.

00:47:47.580 Yeah.

00:47:48.040 And the community sponsorship model

00:47:50.320 draws on proven international experience.

00:47:53.760 Canada's scheme has operated since 1979

00:47:56.600 and has successfully resettled almost 400,000 refugees.

00:48:01.820 Under the Canadian system,

00:48:03.200 70% of sponsored refugees find work within a year,

00:48:07.460 30% higher than those resettled through government schemes.

00:48:11.160 It's like, yeah, okay, but again, it still comes back to the same point. 1.00

00:48:16.860 We don't want hundreds of thousands of people from the third world 1.00

00:48:21.360 coming into the country. 1.00

00:48:23.240 That really is the long and short of it.

00:48:26.000 Community sponsorship builds on the UK's own Homes for Ukraine scheme,

00:48:30.600 for Ukraine scheme which showed the public's British public's willingness to open their arms

00:48:36.060 to those fleeing danger look again I do appreciate the fact that the British public may have been

00:48:41.160 more sympathetic to the plight of the Ukrainians but even if they weren't we were still being told 0.97

00:48:47.060 that we were getting them hell or high water anyway that's how this works um and then to go

00:48:53.100 on further on to the ECHR it says well article 8 the right to private and family life is intended

00:49:00.220 as a safeguard, yet with 77,000 applications granted in the past year alone, it is having a

00:49:07.720 significant impact on our ability to enforce the immigration rules and tackle illegal immigration.

00:49:13.420 As confirmed in the King's speech, the Immigration and Asylum Bill will tighten the application of

00:49:18.460 Article 8 by defining family as an immediate family member, such as a parent, spouse or child

00:49:24.880 under 18 except in exceptional circumstances problem with this of course as well is that if

00:49:32.020 you're coming over and you've torn up all of your identification in your papers and you just say oh

00:49:37.740 no that that's my mum that's my dad right these are not people who are sticklers for the law

00:49:44.180 they will find each and every every avenue that they can to work around when government writes

00:49:49.980 this stuff they always assume that everybody is strictly honest yeah it doesn't occur to them

00:49:54.140 that people just lie about this stuff also i don't see how a deft human rights lawyer won't

00:49:59.440 be able to work within that more narrow definition of family anyway yeah um most of these people do

00:50:06.820 have parents and spouses or child or children here it will prevent illegal migrants including

00:50:13.620 dangerous foreign criminals from abusing the system by relying on distant family relationships

00:50:18.700 to prevent removal. For example, a domestic abuser from Poland, ah yes, Poland, that place where 0.95

00:50:25.500 they're all coming from, with a string of convictions for violence, was allowed to stay

00:50:30.720 on the basis that he was a father figure to his nephew. A new tougher test will make clear that

00:50:36.160 deporting foreign national offenders is in the public interest and should only be blocked in

00:50:42.120 the most exceptional circumstances. And then it also goes on to make mention of some things

00:50:48.700 pertaining to modern slavery. But for the sake of time, I shall move on from it now.

00:50:54.480 The other thing as well is that from October the 1st, employers caught hiring illegal workers as

00:51:01.000 food delivery drivers or construction workers will face fines of up to £60,000 per illegal worker

00:51:07.660 or five years in prison gig economy employers will be legally required to ensure right to work checks

00:51:14.720 are undertaken the thing is about all of this on the one hand yes i want to see uh companies like

00:51:21.560 deliveroo absolutely economically driven into the ground with lawsuits for the amount of you know

00:51:27.340 of complicity that they've had in all of this but the other thing as well given um how we know that

00:51:34.200 the authorities currently operate do we really expect any of this to be enforced even if it is

00:51:41.260 put down on paper well this is a great change i think this this is actually a good change

00:51:45.940 uh we'll know if it's actually being enforced if uber and deliveroo and just eat shut down

00:51:53.220 overnight yeah yeah because the amount of illegal workers 60 000 times by a few hundred thousand

00:52:01.540 maybe that will bankrupt them well all the five years uh per incident or something you could you

00:52:08.120 could see these ceos going to jail for thousands of years yeah so if that ends up happening yes

00:52:13.780 then we know it's being enforced um in other news uh 45 000 more illegal migrants and foreign

00:52:20.880 criminals we will be deported or removed from the united kingdom within the next decade i mean

00:52:27.640 call me a cynic but i think we're going to win within the next decade i i think that we're given

00:52:33.700 a decade with a proper serious-minded government we could deport a hell of a lot more people than

00:52:39.940 45 000 a month you could do that day i mean just like just like cordon off part of heathrow

00:52:47.860 and within a couple of days you could have had multiple times that deported yeah do a do a deal

00:52:53.820 with ryanair and just get lots of lots of cheap flights going i mean if the government can make

00:52:58.340 private contracts with you know people who do um you know own hotels to house them i'm sure we can

00:53:05.120 make contracts with airline companies this is why i don't think the idea of somebody like uh martin

00:53:10.180 selner or some of the other re-migration activists to have okay a load of these people claim that

00:53:15.600 they don't have a state we can't identify where they're from great we'll do it one we'll do a deal

00:53:21.020 with some north african state or hell maybe one of the saudi states will build a really nice

00:53:26.180 sanctuary city for you all to live in and if you say oh i'm not from anywhere actually you can't

00:53:31.360 send me away well great you go to the sanctuary city yeah yeah um and so this entire thing as

00:53:36.620 well as the fact that um shabana mood has also come out and said oh and also we'll make sure

00:53:41.260 that none of these asylum seekers are put near schools as well so it's like okay i mean on the 0.97

00:53:47.940 one hand yes good should should never have been the case in the first place but on the other hand 0.99

00:53:52.760 as well i come back to the point the entire thing is about making sure that as many people who were

00:53:58.920 coming in illegally and now coming through as valid citizens and coming through the legal routes

00:54:05.020 because they've had and also as well to give it to basically use it as a way through the university 0.99

00:54:11.640 system and through these foreign communities who will no doubt wish for more foreigners to come

00:54:16.820 here to basically give it some sort of illusion of public endorsement right as a form of manufactured 0.98

00:54:23.860 consent to say well look you know all of our institutions and everything that they wanted

00:54:28.860 them here so it's a will of the people now that they're all here and the other thing as well is

00:54:34.180 to just say that um as we have here uh white british students now make up less than 50 percent

00:54:40.620 of the student population at 27 UK universities. At least 10 of those universities still offer

00:54:47.300 scholarships, bursaries and financial aid exclusively to black, Asian and minority ethnic

00:54:52.620 students, with some awards covering full tuition fees or providing living stipends of up to £18,062

00:55:01.940 a year. And so I come back to the fact as well, if all of our universities are slowly and slowly

00:55:08.220 are being staffed and the students who are going there 0.99

00:55:15.040 are from all of these foreign backgrounds,

00:55:17.680 then they have every reason out of ethnic loyalty to their own

00:55:21.960 to just bring in as many people as possible.

00:55:25.060 And the only people who are left at the end of this

00:55:27.860 to raise the fact that there might be a problem

00:55:32.680 and this is all a bit unfair on one particular people

00:55:35.900 is, as usual, us.

00:55:38.220 The British, and we can see here from this report, a legal migrant shouting, 0.59

00:55:43.260 this is the end of England, just moments before landing on British shores. 0.98

00:55:48.260 We know all of this. We know how hostile they are.

00:55:51.680 We've seen with our own eyes how hostile they all are.

00:55:55.200 And we've seen how through a combination of just gullibility and ignorance and maliciousness from certain sectors, 0.98

00:56:05.900 All of these things have come to contribute to a system that is just determined to ram as many foreigners into the country as humanely possible, as quickly as possible, because as I come back to the point, the Labour government are, I mean yes they are stupid, but they're not so stupid to realise that this entire experiment is at risk of true catastrophic failure, and that this society is not going the way that they want it to go. 0.98

00:56:35.900 and that actually there is some genuine resistance out there 0.98

00:56:39.360 and some true fury for the amount of danger

00:56:42.420 that our people are now being subjected to on the streets.

00:56:46.200 And I would suggest that these reforms are not the way to, well,

00:56:53.800 move things forward in a better way.

00:56:59.200 Two dollars, Sigil Stone says,

00:57:01.060 so Tim Walsh decided to pardon a migrant convicted of raping a 10-year-old

00:57:05.140 and blocked his deportation

00:57:06.860 says a lot, didn't it?

00:57:08.080 Yeah, I saw about that this morning.

00:57:10.400 Absolutely.

00:57:11.200 I mean, we are just dealing

00:57:12.380 with some of the most evil people

00:57:13.840 on the planet.

00:57:14.600 We really are. 0.92

00:57:15.220 Just white guys for Harris

00:57:16.620 type things, I suppose.

00:57:18.480 Yeah.

00:57:19.440 Yeah.

00:57:20.280 All right.

00:57:20.840 If we can go to the next segment,

00:57:22.060 Samson, please. 1.00

00:57:24.860 What the fuck? 1.00

00:57:27.900 I made that myself. 1.00

00:57:29.160 Well, I found a still

00:57:30.160 and then I made that myself.

00:57:33.060 Very good.

00:57:33.880 Yeah.

00:57:34.000 no what it what it what is about right is and i'm sure a lot of parents have had this experience

00:57:38.840 i will discover my kids watching a youtube video of somebody playing like minecraft and i'll be

00:57:45.260 like why don't you just play minecraft but they don't they watch they watch a video of somebody

00:57:49.240 else doing yeah but i thought to be fair for the same thing like i don't generally go and watch

00:57:54.040 movies these days i i you know a movie might be like 120 minutes long and i don't watch it and

00:58:00.220 then think oh that was bad instead i watch at least 240 minutes of people like nerd erotic

00:58:05.740 absolutely slamming on the thing just relentlessly pile driving it into the ground i find that far

00:58:12.840 more entertaining well you get to the point where you know more people are watching critical drink

00:58:17.100 reviews of the film than go to watch the film itself absolutely and um anyway i got quite into

00:58:24.060 are watching the failure of supergirl because it is such an epic failure it's really fun to just

00:58:29.980 watch it watch it be destroyed anyway so i found this one um it's this because because i was

00:58:35.160 thinking with supergirl it's like okay well fair enough i don't watch it and um loads of other

00:58:40.260 people don't watch it but you know maybe you know it was written for girls maybe girls will like it

00:58:44.840 so i started watching girl female yes the viewers right and um and uh and they don't like it either

00:58:53.140 Well, the funny thing is as well, in the case there, you've got obviously characters from Star Wars and Captain Marvel.

00:58:59.420 And so both of those IPs were bought by Disney because they thought, wow, we're really famous for all of the princesses.

00:59:08.200 But we have nothing for boys and we need to conquer the market for boys.

00:59:11.500 And then upon buying them later with Marvel, but immediately with Star Wars, it was like, this thing's too boyish, let's change it.

00:59:18.780 Exactly right.

00:59:19.500 i will say one thing for captain marvel over all of the others right which is whatever else you

00:59:24.960 want to say about her whatever you want to say about the film brie larson is actually a babe

00:59:29.740 oh yeah which you're which you don't get as much with more of these recent ones i have marvels 0.90

00:59:34.780 yeah yeah so so we're here a little bit from from miss butler women don't want to see other women

00:59:41.200 saving the men in the story it gives them the ick it gives men the ick it gives all of us the same 0.91

00:59:48.100 ick that we get when we watch a woman propose to a man all right anyway and then there's another 0.97

00:59:54.020 there's another suitable bit like five minutes basically she starts renting at hollywood it's 0.79

00:59:59.740 like why the hell are you doing this oh i should line this up but here we go good question but you 1.00

01:00:05.020 can't go and yell at these women for not showing up to the movie that you supposedly made for them

01:00:09.960 because i gotta tell you as long as i have been alive i cannot recall a single time where yelling

01:00:14.660 at a woman turned out to be a good idea and anyway there's some other bit i'm obviously not very good

01:00:20.100 at doing the scrolling thing but there's a whole section of this where she's just like hollywood

01:00:24.260 what what the hell are you doing what why are you continuously making really really bad films that

01:00:30.820 nobody wants to watch and then doing it all over again and then nobody watches them um tell you 0.91

01:00:37.060 because the women making these films would rather see themselves on the screen than make a good film

01:00:42.260 right well there you go segment done but nice one harry it's the same thing with the uh there was

01:00:48.800 the sony spider-man game for playstation 4 where you know had mary jane watson in the original one 0.99

01:00:54.900 2018 yes she's a pretty redhead and then in the second one they gave her ugly man jaw and gross 0.99

01:01:03.020 man face and you go why did they do that until you see that one of the people involved in making 0.99

01:01:07.780 it has ugly manjor and ugly man face you went oh they just made it that you just made her you

01:01:12.860 whatever the the the name is of that indian woman who did the velma series as well i'm

01:01:18.300 just right just making velma indian because it's got to be me anyway i did i did think about her

01:01:23.920 question you know why is this being done and samson you told me to leave it on the screen so

01:01:27.540 you could you could supersize it supersize it there we go all right um good work anyway so i

01:01:33.880 was thinking like you know why why is this happening and i was sort of minded of this chap

01:01:38.860 so this is uh mr conquest uh robert conquest yes robert conquest uh who's famous for for you know

01:01:45.920 these great political observation he was a sovietologist if that's a word so it is now yes

01:01:52.920 it is now he's a part of mi6 i thought he was an academic who just kept an eye on the so yeah but

01:01:59.940 loads of academics were part of the sea no no no he kept an eye on them he was a

01:02:03.800 prevalentologist or whatever anyway the point is the point is he wrote some good stuff and uh let's

01:02:10.000 see if this works there we go and and he came up with these these uh three laws of politics that

01:02:15.080 are actually quite bloody good so the first one is everybody is conservative about what he knows best

01:02:20.660 that is very true doesn't matter how left-wing you are doesn't matter how communist you are

01:02:27.500 the thing that you care about the most you are very very conservative about whatever it is so

01:02:32.780 i like that one uh your second one any organization not explicitly and constitutionally right wing

01:02:38.760 will sooner or later become left wing true that is another very good um observation but um the one

01:02:47.380 that kind of relates to all of this is uh the behavior of any organization can uh best be

01:02:53.860 understood by assuming it's controlled by a secret cabal of its eminies right and yes i do have one

01:03:02.060 thing to say about that which is robert conquest could never have predicted this uh but these days

01:03:07.320 they're not secret no yeah that is it's a very fair they shout it from the rooftops yeah yes

01:03:13.660 yes quite so anyway so i thought yeah that's good and and i'm going to try and answer miss

01:03:20.180 butler's uh mrs butler i don't know i don't know if she's made or not mrs butler then i'm going to

01:03:26.020 try and answer mrs butler's um question uh through the frame of this and i thought okay well i can't

01:03:32.000 do it because i'm biased obviously on this stuff i don't really like hollywood and i think it's

01:03:35.680 going to fail so i went to a whole bunch of ais and i got them to say okay and i because you know

01:03:41.300 it helps you with your job and stuff so i said look i've just been appointed uh the chief executive

01:03:45.700 of hollywood my mission all of hollywood yes every studio every has control over hollywood

01:03:54.340 puppeteers every director and producer yes um it's a bit credulous it didn't it didn't push

01:04:00.860 back too much and i said look what i want to do is i want to alienate hollywood from its fan base

01:04:05.680 um as as completely as possible can you help me do this and it's quite obliging so anyway it came

01:04:12.060 up with some suggestions uh which was um the this is a confab of what the various

01:04:18.460 ai's came up with it said reward executives for meeting ideological branding or process

01:04:23.580 goals instead of ticket sales and long-term audience loyalist reduce the consequence of

01:04:28.620 failure i mean i think what's her name the star wars woman yes so she's proved that one

01:04:34.780 prioritize message over storytelling does that happen oh yeah yes quite overtly um

01:04:41.520 discourage creative disagreement i mean they did get rid of basically all the white men

01:04:46.300 and they've just got women now it's not just that as well it's just a continuous trajectory you see

01:04:52.080 of directors especially when they work on the big budgets just not actually being able to have a

01:04:57.940 true vision of their own and just constant you know people coming from down above to tell them

01:05:02.740 the studio wants this the studio wants that this is what happened of course when it came to by the

01:05:07.400 time stan ramey was making spider-man 3 back in the day he had far less creative control

01:05:12.960 over it because the studios were saying you have to have this thing so it's not even just the

01:05:18.240 ideological stuff it's truly the corporatization of the creative process apparently what was his

01:05:24.640 name um james gunney's like a total control freak and he tries to control absolutely every single

01:05:28.840 thing and only delegates when he literally hasn't

01:05:30.860 got time to do it. And he still can't make it good.

01:05:33.140 Yes, well, perhaps not because of that.

01:05:35.340 Treat criticism as

01:05:36.820 illegitimate. I will say the only thing

01:05:38.960 that's currently still creative

01:05:40.700 in Hollywood is the

01:05:42.820 excuses for why the movie's bombed.

01:05:45.760 They do get quite

01:05:46.860 inventive with them, don't they? Yes, that is

01:05:48.780 the only genuinely creative bit left in Hollywood.

01:05:51.860 Centralised decision-making,

01:05:53.860 optimised for opening

01:05:54.860 weekend rather than decades of cultural

01:05:56.740 relevance. Because it used to be the case.

01:05:58.260 so i'm pretty sure they used to make movies where it was like how can we make this movie as good as

01:06:02.920 possible and then people thought oh that's a good movie and they went to watch it whereas now they

01:06:08.480 try and make just people going to watch it as the goal in itself and the movie is irrelevant you

01:06:14.160 might think well that's contradictory well not really because the opening weekend nobody's seen

01:06:17.580 it yet so if you manipulate the reviewers and you do lots of marketing and you make it look good in 0.98

01:06:23.000 the trailers well it doesn't matter that it's a shit film as long as you get that opening weekend 0.97

01:06:27.360 yeah massive surge but as well the fact that we're living in the age of the internet as well 0.95

01:06:32.260 it's never been i mean you know ideally it's never been easier for word of mouth yes to go around and

01:06:39.300 say oh wow i saw this on opening weekend it was really good you should go check it out and to

01:06:43.340 create a steamrolling effect which is what happened with obsession you know which is actually a good

01:06:47.820 film right well so i've seen it i've told people to go and watch it yeah yeah i'm gonna check it

01:06:52.940 definitely um devalue experienced craftspeople i mean that was the article that came out

01:06:58.120 maybe six months ago about this this writer who's basically saying a white men have just

01:07:01.840 excluded from everything now they just can't get it i believe it so they're all out um and focus

01:07:07.640 on protecting brands rather than creating new ones so you know the 1000th superhero movie

01:07:13.940 and he's like that's the thing you're gonna care about supergirl this time right dan you've been

01:07:19.600 craving a supergirl film right talks about it every day in the office it is quite disturbing

01:07:25.400 frankly when i when i was a young man you could go to the video shop and there'd just be and

01:07:30.140 there'd just be films and it wouldn't be like part eight it would just be in fact there was it was

01:07:36.220 quite rare i mean predator did a unless you're on rocky 4 no it'd be like slasher movies would be 0.83

01:07:42.160 on like part eight but everybody knew that part eight of the slasher movies was going to be shit

01:07:46.300 and that's why you'd watch it because it's hilarious but normal movies they just weren't

01:07:51.180 they weren't these extended cinematic it was new stuff came up oh they just don't do new stuff

01:07:56.080 anytime so that's interesting okay so if that's what you would do if you were trying to destroy

01:08:02.060 hollywood right and that is everything they're doing absolutely everything they're doing so

01:08:07.640 so i don't know what's going on there i'm trying to think of the films that i've seen this year i

01:08:11.300 think like what i have been to the cinema a few times i saw obsession uh that was a brand new

01:08:16.220 thing with a brand new director who's like a youtuber um i went to go see i did see 28 years

01:08:22.780 later bone temple which is part wasn't actually that bad yeah it was part of an extended universe

01:08:27.200 but it feels like the creator's doing something new with the universe rather than reiterating

01:08:32.500 i went to go see iron lung another movie original movie movie i saw that yeah that's by a youtuber

01:08:38.660 made by Markiplier

01:08:39.680 last year I saw a few

01:08:41.620 like I only ever seem to go

01:08:43.180 to the cinema to watch

01:08:43.880 original films right now

01:08:45.160 if it's part of a larger series

01:08:47.820 unless it was something

01:08:48.620 like 28 years later

01:08:49.660 I just avoid it

01:08:50.900 Captain Marvel 8

01:08:51.760 or whatever it is

01:08:52.700 yes

01:08:53.080 on back rooms

01:08:54.540 people are talking about

01:08:55.540 I've heard that that's supposed to 0.92

01:08:56.580 I know it sounds like a porno 0.94

01:08:57.920 but that is a 0.97

01:08:58.620 man did you know that

01:08:59.520 there is a third

01:09:00.720 Ant-Man film

01:09:01.740 did you know that

01:09:03.980 there was a first Ant-Man film

01:09:05.300 did you know that

01:09:05.840 there was a second Ant-Man film

01:09:07.140 I do actually have

01:09:07.680 somewhere to go with this

01:09:08.440 but i will engage with this so so my daughter's whatever she's like 12 or something now anyway

01:09:12.840 so i thought okay you'll be it'll be keep better track of that yes you lose i don't know how old

01:09:19.420 i am it's the wrong number of candles on the cake this year again no the wife does that anyway um

01:09:25.920 so i thought okay it'll be uh she's probably old enough now to go through the marvel movies

01:09:30.080 right and we started with obviously with iron man and you're so different so an iron man is

01:09:36.200 right iron man is so good and she was so engaged and she was like just watching it and and we went

01:09:42.040 through them and and we got to um last night we got to four love and thunder or something like

01:09:48.760 oh and by the time we were on that by this by by the time we were on that we're halfway through

01:09:58.180 and she's asking daddy how much longer is it and and she's getting a phone out yeah and she's just 0.65

01:10:02.800 and she's just oh i'm just going to the kitchen you can carry on watching it and she just it 0.97

01:10:06.640 just doesn't come back yeah it's it's it's everything has become so shit but anyway right 0.88

01:10:11.640 the point is no i was going somewhere this um so i did that for hollywood and i thought okay 0.97

01:10:16.620 well what about um what about government do the same so i got all the ais to say right if i was

01:10:22.480 running government and i wanted to alienate the voters how would i do it well actually i typed in

01:10:27.820 i've just become the head of governments all of them i want to alienate the voters how do i do it

01:10:33.500 and what they said was um say one thing before an election do the opposite afterwards stop

01:10:38.000 explaining decisions like the chagos deal i mean presumably right just don't explain it oh we're

01:10:43.120 just doing it we've just got to do it yes yeah but don't say why um appear to prioritize elite

01:10:48.460 opinions over the concerns of ordinary voters dismiss criticism rather than engaging with it

01:10:53.800 create different standards for different groups i mean again does any of this sound like the sort

01:10:58.180 of thing that actually happens uh focus on symbolic politics while visible day-to-day

01:11:02.520 problems remain unsolved make accountability diffuse over promise and under deliver become

01:11:09.420 disconnected from everyday experiences ignore feedback after repeated electoral warnings

01:11:14.540 i mean it's literally every one of them yes there's not one there that isn't this

01:11:20.880 yes and but but i mean this is the the conquest third law it's like it's it's so easy to explain

01:11:27.840 the actions of any big organization if you assume it is a run by cabal of his enemies who are

01:11:32.360 deliberately trying to destroy it right so then i thought oh what did i do next oh mainstream media

01:11:37.340 yeah i did that right so um shift to reporting um narratives uh treat audience distrust as pathology

01:11:44.940 so you know there's something wrong with the audience um become socially uh homogeneous

01:11:52.120 um you're not the country obviously uh but the people the people who work at the press

01:11:57.040 this is about the standards that they all hold nobody's allowed to hold any standards other than

01:12:02.460 the one defining one yes exactly even it doesn't matter if you work at the guardian or the mail or

01:12:07.320 the tory graph you all have the same set of values um make obvious double standards visible replace

01:12:13.660 public interest of the elite consensus maintenance substitute fat checking for epistemic honesty

01:12:19.180 uh basically what i'm saying that what the a's were saying there was um was the point i made

01:12:24.600 earlier in your episode make sure you're technically correct but you narrow the frame of what you're

01:12:29.980 talking about so that it actually ends up doing the opposite or whatever it is that you're that

01:12:34.400 you're talking about um and and uh yeah become hostile to uh disintermediation so you know the

01:12:40.880 the the old media and stuff and it's like again

01:12:42.960 is the media if if we assume that the media is controlled by kabbalah of its enemies

01:12:50.180 is any of this true i mean i i have a few reference points well enemies to who um the the readers

01:12:59.960 oh yeah yes right so um anyway so um then i thought i'll have a go with the police and

01:13:07.000 criminal justice right so if you if you police and criminal justice was run by a cabal of its

01:13:12.940 enemies and why i actually typed this look i've become the head of police and the courts and i

01:13:18.080 want to alienate citizens how do i do it um under police serious crime over police speech and

01:13:25.400 protest make two-tier policing the core uh make criminal justice feel theoretical manage language

01:13:32.660 display small clarity uh make courts and police visible agents of state preference

01:13:37.640 so this ai is a bit good yes i mean you know those in power of color have been using it quite

01:13:46.160 a lot as a roadmap uh well or they are actually a cabal of our enemies all that yes that could

01:13:54.400 also be true uh big tech um you know well blah blah blah you've done a few of these now but you

01:14:00.760 know platform becomes you know choke points and all that kind of stuff um so anyway the point is

01:14:05.960 is every time i threw something at it to say look i've you know i've just been put in charge of i

01:14:10.540 don't know bloody fifa or something i want to make people hate whatever it is any anything that i

01:14:15.780 threw at it is like i've now become head of whatever how do i make i should have done israel

01:14:21.160 anyway whatever i threw at it and i said okay now i want to make the sort of core people that are

01:14:29.340 supposed to support this hate me it always came up with a list of exactly everything those

01:14:34.600 organizations are doing right which is a bit disturbing um so what i decided to do is i've

01:14:41.340 decided to add more laws to robert conquest's three laws of politics i've decided they now

01:14:47.080 need to be five laws i mean i suppose i can't technically do that because i am not a conquest

01:14:50.720 but i am identifying for the purpose of this as a conquest and therefore i'm adding i'm adding

01:14:56.920 two extra laws so the the first one i'm adding is any organization not explicitly

01:15:01.840 and constitutionally political who sooner or later become political um except for any

01:15:08.960 organization that actually is political and that will become parasitical um i actually

01:15:14.800 reasonable assumption yeah some sense in there i actually wanted to say autophagic but um

01:15:19.120 nobody knows what that means but that's a slightly better word for it anyway so um

01:15:24.120 anything not political will just become political as it grows yeah and it will go down the political

01:15:31.680 route of everything except politics itself which only wants to survive by consuming the underlying

01:15:37.680 substrate i.e the voters so uh right so then i was thinking okay how can we actually do something

01:15:47.820 about any of this right so with mainstream media that that actually isn't too bad because if you

01:15:53.720 about mainstream media it started getting replaced like the moment the internet appeared

01:15:59.080 and and that is going on quite well so you can replace mainstream media volt medium that's fine

01:16:02.840 that's easy enough you can do that uh hollywood it's a little bit harder right but it's getting

01:16:10.840 easier to make indie films as i mean you just mentioned a moment ago like three films you've

01:16:16.440 you've seen recently that yeah mainly original ideas done by auto types uh not all of them indie

01:16:23.640 but obsession was made with less than a million dollars which is remarkable especially when you

01:16:29.720 see the turnaround with it being making like 400 million dollars return that's was made for less

01:16:35.440 than a million it's made for 750 000 which is remarkable it makes it it's only got about four

01:16:41.460 characters and it's got like four sets as well but it works really hard within those constraints

01:16:47.540 to make something really good and i think i think hollywood obviously the big studios like marvel

01:16:53.880 may take a little bit of time but other studios within hollywood at least one bean counter within

01:17:01.460 these studios must be going we are losing millions of dollars every film that we make

01:17:08.460 spielberg put out a film earlier this year oh yes yeah anybody watch it no then what was it

01:17:14.280 it was disclosure day i didn't even realize it was a spielberg film right i haven't even heard

01:17:19.060 they can't even rely on spielberg with an original property anymore to make money so they're probably

01:17:24.360 going right we need to reduce budgets and rely on the like low budget high concept with good

01:17:31.520 auto filmmakers and that will make money back i mean also as well the the hundreds of millions

01:17:37.300 of pounds that they spend on

01:17:39.120 advertising campaigns, it's like

01:17:41.020 as Obsession shows, you don't need

01:17:43.260 you know, to spend so much money

01:17:45.220 on advertising campaigns if you

01:17:47.040 just got some guy going, oh that was good

01:17:49.020 I don't think Obsession spent

01:17:50.840 100 million on advertising

01:17:52.080 and if you want to do like a big budget

01:17:54.760 blockbuster that's good

01:17:56.300 just go back and watch the first

01:17:58.640 Pirates of the Caribbean, which everybody

01:18:00.640 thought would fail because it was based on a bloody

01:18:02.800 Disney park ride, and just

01:18:04.860 go, well what did they do here? Well there's

01:18:06.860 compelling characters there's a fun simple easy to understand plot it's got great pace it looks

01:18:12.800 good there's incredible action it's just what happened was the filmmakers went let's make

01:18:17.300 something really cool yeah and they made something really cool i mean it occurs to me that if they

01:18:22.900 really made obsession with less than a million then instead of supergirl that cost 175 you could

01:18:30.660 split that up and you could go to 175 filmmakers and say look here's a million make a little film

01:18:36.540 and you would almost certainly get at least one out of those that would do quite well and like

01:18:44.060 two or three do semi well and even if the rest bomb you're going to outperform supergirl yeah

01:18:48.420 well this is this is the obsession was i think financed by blumhouse and that is the blumhouse

01:18:54.400 production model that's why their films can be so successful yeah they'll finance like 20 films

01:19:00.120 all at the same time will go you each get a tiny tiny budget and then one of them inevitably just

01:19:07.120 makes hundreds of millions of dollars that's why they've been so that's kind of the vc model you

01:19:11.500 just fire lots of little things and you know that most of them are going to fail but one of them

01:19:15.500 will make it really big but anyway hollywood doesn't do that so anyway so hollywood can be

01:19:20.400 replaced big tech kind of replaces itself but it starts to get extremely difficult when you get to

01:19:25.420 things like police and courts and the government i mean in theory it's supposed to be easy to

01:19:29.100 replace the government you just vote wouldn't that be nice yes but every single you know every

01:19:37.420 single time we do comments people sort of push back on the idea that voting is going to change

01:19:42.000 anything and and and then i was minded to remember that the americans have got their birthday coming

01:19:47.540 up yes it's on the way isn't it saturday is what two days two days two days so um the americans

01:19:56.980 are going to well the country america is about to become a young adult or whatever it is um

01:20:01.300 america can finally drink yes 250 years i mean it's not like not like whatever we are what 1500

01:20:11.540 oh over 1100 coming okay fair enough or chinese who are like 3000 years old yeah but 250 no you

01:20:19.140 you can probably drink at that age um so so well done american anyway so i was minded of um mr

01:20:25.940 jefferson um and there's a letter which i got the letter in the link somewhere um but he wrote so he

01:20:32.820 writes a letter to this chap and it's quite a good one and i've got an abridged version of it here

01:20:36.460 and he's like um you know blah blah blah acknowledge receipt of your favors and

01:20:40.720 whatever um the british ministry oh and this kind of relevant the british ministry of of so long

01:20:46.740 high gazette gazetteers the press uh to repeat the model into every form of lies about us being

01:20:53.760 in anarchy and the world at length has believed them the english nation has believed them ministers

01:20:58.460 themselves have come to believe them and what is more wonderful we have come to believe them

01:21:03.260 ourselves so he's got a bit there about the press and about how it manipulates opinion all that kind

01:21:07.140 of stuff he's very good he's jefferson um anyway then we get to the uh the good bit uh where he's

01:21:12.700 saying you know god forbid we should ever be 20 years without a rebellion because he kind of

01:21:17.900 recognizes that things tend to go off the rails i mean he he's kind of preempted my fourth and

01:21:24.180 fifth laws of conquest uh but you know it basically it just becomes parasitical after a

01:21:31.520 certain amount of time and he goes on to say um and and what country can preserve its liberties

01:21:36.700 if their rulers are not warned from time to time uh that their people preserve the spirit of

01:21:41.820 resistance uh yes and and and then and then the bit that is always quoted uh what signifies a few

01:21:48.560 lies lost in a century or two the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood

01:21:53.600 of patriots and tyrants it's a natural manure it's as natural as manure yes yeah uh i think he's

01:22:02.780 right it was an interesting he had a very interesting relationship with the french

01:22:06.560 revolution it's interesting to see how his theory about it evolved over time but a conversation for

01:22:12.900 another time well yes um and and then finally while i still have the ai's open um because

01:22:19.080 because we get this comment below our videos all the time like 50 people will make this comment

01:22:25.080 and think oh you know i made an original comment because they've noticed that hundreds of other

01:22:29.300 people have made it but we always get this you're not voting your way out of this

01:22:32.840 what do you guys think well we have to yes i hope so uh anyway so then i got the ais to

01:22:42.060 impersonate robert conquest and thomas jefferson to give me what they would think

01:22:45.540 um and and apparently uh robert conquest would say voting is necessary but not decisive unless

01:22:51.340 victoria's political force is explicitly designed to discipline purge restructure

01:22:58.580 or constitutionally bind the institution

01:23:00.960 it inherits

01:23:01.820 and Jefferson isn't

01:23:04.780 really having any of it

01:23:05.720 sorry all I'm thinking of now is you just

01:23:08.720 doing like a brokonomics you know like Glenn Beck

01:23:10.940 where he interviewed A.I. George Washington

01:23:12.740 with Jefferson

01:23:13.400 except you're not asking him

01:23:17.880 Mr. Jefferson should we go to war

01:23:20.560 with Iran 1.00

01:23:21.200 if I was going to interview any

01:23:24.060 dead historical 1.00

01:23:26.600 figure I'm sure I could get a bit spicier than Jefferson

01:23:28.560 Jefferson he was pretty spicy to be fair I mean I was gonna say yeah there are some pretty spicy

01:23:33.720 Jefferson quotes yeah yes they are they are very good um but I mean hopefully so hopefully so

01:23:39.560 because I mean I mean this is this is a kind of a problem that stems from from everything from

01:23:44.980 mainstream media to to Hollywood to government to the police it's like all of them they've all

01:23:49.960 they've all turned in on themselves yeah and are consuming themselves they've all become parasitical

01:23:55.360 and they all have contempt yes for everyone outside and i'm less worried about media because

01:24:01.200 we're just replacing it anyway and i'm a little bit less worried about hollywood because new

01:24:04.980 films are just popping up um but when you apply that same logic to government it starts to get

01:24:09.560 a bit worrying and i just kind of hope that we can vote our way out of it and and i'm sticking

01:24:14.360 to that that we will be able to vote our way out of it because the alternative um as mr jefferson

01:24:19.120 says yes theoretically parliamentary sovereignty means that we could yes theoretically so let's

01:24:26.180 let's hope that in in their death throes the existing government doesn't cut off that bit of

01:24:31.780 um that bill it's a political release like they are with the afd in germany right now

01:24:36.880 all right any of the comedy things got players of the old eagle says the difference

01:24:42.860 the difference between American Revolution

01:24:47.180 and the French was the 0.90

01:24:49.340 unhindered slaughter of the mob

01:24:51.280 the Americans were appalled

01:24:52.920 at what the French were doing because of the wanton

01:24:55.340 slaughter. Well Jefferson was

01:24:57.360 first in favour of it until

01:24:59.300 I think a lot of people looking

01:25:01.420 from across the Atlantic when they

01:25:03.220 heard of what was actually happening they all went

01:25:05.380 ah. Yes.

01:25:06.960 French do get a bit carried away.

01:25:09.600 That's a random name. Oh I'm supposed to say 1.00

01:25:11.260 I'm supposed to read his things as if I'm saying it

01:25:13.640 I say

01:25:14.740 another law I could add is that

01:25:17.360 every system always degenerates

01:25:19.520 into its most extreme version

01:25:21.340 slippery slope is real

01:25:22.700 that's a good point, yeah

01:25:24.500 the flying crocodile, which I think was a Roald Dahl character

01:25:27.640 says the fix for

01:25:29.380 government is simple, just remove all their security

01:25:31.440 services, yeah I like that

01:25:32.820 if they don't do a good enough job to not

01:25:35.440 be in danger, they shouldn't be in power

01:25:37.160 yes, I also say

01:25:39.640 autophagic means eats itself

01:25:42.120 like our enemies. Yes, that's

01:25:44.380 why I wanted to use that as

01:25:46.220 my term. And I

01:25:48.280 also say, everything you've

01:25:50.540 described about Hollywood also happens

01:25:52.480 in the game industry. Yes, any of them.

01:25:54.480 I could have done that for any of them. Problem

01:25:56.340 is our casting couch still

01:25:58.300 exists, does it?

01:26:00.180 We have a casting couch. It's not

01:26:02.240 in this office. It's Zoe Quinn's

01:26:04.380 world. We're all just living in it.

01:26:06.380 We're all just being cast in it. 1.00

01:26:07.700 in women coders, 1.00

01:26:09.340 which is why your games 1.00

01:26:10.340 are full of bugs, right?

01:26:12.000 They won't shut up.

01:26:13.460 Yeah, Siglestone says,

01:26:14.560 reminder, Nerd Erotic 0.90

01:26:15.580 is a convicted meth dealer

01:26:17.900 that sold drugs

01:26:18.820 near a high school. 0.99

01:26:20.240 Democrats are the reason

01:26:21.160 he only got 10 years. 0.86

01:26:23.040 He also encourages his audience

01:26:24.340 with engagement crack.

01:26:25.500 Yeah, but I do like it, though.

01:26:29.780 We like Nerd Erotic, don't we?

01:26:31.460 I don't really watch a lot

01:26:33.000 of online media commentary,

01:26:34.780 to be honest with you.

01:26:35.520 I'm sure engagement crack

01:26:36.980 just sounds like rhetoric i was aware that he'd been to prison i didn't know it was because he'd

01:26:41.900 sold drugs near a high school i'm hoping that he is well and truly turned his uh turned his life

01:26:47.020 around since then yes i also say um the only way a woman can save a man is by saving him from hunger

01:26:53.300 with a good meal uh yes i do say that oh and gm gunther again very generous man earlier who um

01:27:00.160 Goutier.

01:27:01.640 Who is it?

01:27:02.880 G.M. Goutier.

01:27:04.600 Is that Italian? 0.99

01:27:05.760 It's either that or Gouthier,

01:27:07.800 and Gouthier sounds like it's probably more accurate.

01:27:10.420 G.M. Gouthier says,

01:27:12.680 no, you probably can't read this.

01:27:14.860 I can.

01:27:16.460 But at some point,

01:27:18.060 you people need to ask yourself,

01:27:19.600 what is to be done?

01:27:21.220 Yes.

01:27:22.120 Quite.

01:27:23.440 All right.

01:27:24.080 Video comments on Samson.

01:27:27.940 What happened was,

01:27:29.080 is all that countryside around the factory at Thornhill Lees.

01:27:32.460 They argued their trees were dying

01:27:34.860 and their crops were being killed by the smoke.

01:27:38.040 24 hours a day, seven days a week,

01:27:40.560 because Kilners couldn't turn the furnaces off.

01:27:42.920 It went to court.

01:27:44.100 Judge made a decision.

01:27:46.100 It's a nuisance.

01:27:46.880 This is the dawn of Greenpeace.

01:27:48.700 Three quarters of the population of Thornhill Lees

01:27:51.580 worked at Kilners.

01:27:53.340 So they all wrote saying,

01:27:54.960 we will all lose our jobs. 0.84

01:27:56.740 And they were told to bugger off, basically.

01:27:59.080 very interesting sesty

01:28:06.160 yes

01:28:09.080 are there any more samson

01:28:11.440 uh no we got a couple more

01:28:14.160 rumble rants through as well

01:28:16.380 dan says the reason they're

01:28:18.200 impoverishing britain is precisely so that

01:28:20.140 even if a true right-wing government gets into power

01:28:22.320 you'll be reliant on enemies

01:28:24.060 for food and whatnot sigil stone

01:28:26.180 says no one that describes what he's selling to his audience

01:28:28.220 using drug terms has turned their life around now again i'm not defending what he did i'm glad he

01:28:33.880 went to prison for it uh frankly but there is a big difference between using like youtube rhetoric

01:28:40.300 and actually selling drugs to children and it sounds like he used to do the latter but doesn't

01:28:45.820 anymore and he went to prison for it which is good somebody in the comments is saying that he turned

01:28:50.820 his life around after reading lord of the rings many people have yes very good have we got any

01:28:57.980 comments of the the people yeah do you want to just read one from one or two from your segment

01:29:03.100 oh yeah uh omar award patriots could donate to each other in person cash in hand and the

01:29:08.020 telegraph would write articles about how alt-right extremists are exploiting the royal mint and fiat

01:29:12.440 country currency to fund racism or yes they certainly would lord inquisitor hector rex

01:29:18.100 between this and carl's video last night haven't watched it so i don't know what you're on about

01:29:21.440 seems like reform and hope not hate are closely intertwined as hope not hate still vetting

01:29:25.280 candidates for reform i remember that whole story i mean this just seems like a uniform attack

01:29:31.840 against restore and the people who support it and just another blatant attempt by frankly zionists

01:29:39.340 to de-platform people who aren't for who aren't towing their line i think the whole thing is

01:29:44.200 disgusting i think the telegraph should be ashamed and considered disgraced uh from my segment uh

01:29:50.240 We've got Michael Dribelbus says, 0.89

01:29:52.140 Journalism more and more should be called urinalism 0.93

01:29:55.140 because it really is just taking the piss. 0.94

01:29:57.480 Yes, good point.

01:29:58.700 That's a random name.

01:29:59.980 Alfred, the great...

01:30:01.860 Blackest descendant, having met you in person now.

01:30:05.040 True.

01:30:06.280 Every time I hear Shabana Mahmood's name,

01:30:08.740 it sounds like someone's trying to summon a demon.

01:30:13.380 We've also got Jimbo G who says,

01:30:17.020 These villainous politicians still think that the public are angry

01:30:19.660 about the method of the refugee invasion.

01:30:22.740 It's unthinkable to them that we should consider

01:30:25.160 the cleansing of the English as not in our own best interest. 0.96

01:30:29.180 No, they know. They do know. 1.00

01:30:31.960 They just don't feel like they're in a position

01:30:34.960 to actually have their power threatened right now,

01:30:37.440 and they can just carry on as things are.

01:30:40.580 Do you want to go through just one or two for your segment, Dan?

01:30:42.840 Yes. Michael Dry Belvis says,

01:30:44.960 Yes, in capital letters and in three exclamation marks.

01:30:47.880 Well said, Dan, which is an adroit comment.

01:30:51.740 Well done.

01:30:52.840 And he says, I was looking forward to the Odyssey

01:30:55.960 until I found out about how atrociously Nolan was bending the legend

01:31:00.140 over and having his way with it.

01:31:01.840 What do we think about the Odyssey?

01:31:03.600 I'm not even going to hate watch it.

01:31:06.220 You're not even going to hate watch it?

01:31:07.380 No.

01:31:08.460 You're indifference?

01:31:09.280 No, I want it to fail.

01:31:12.540 Do you want to know the true secret?

01:31:13.360 I'm not giving it the money.

01:31:14.720 Even outside of everything else, the true secret?

01:31:17.880 nolan's not made a good film since the dark knight and even the writing for that was kind 0.91

01:31:24.380 of dog shit was that the one with the joker that died in real life yes yes yes that was a good one

01:31:29.060 it was it was a very good film don't question any of the thing don't think about any of the 0.99

01:31:34.160 scenes that are happening on screen for more than five seconds or it'll all fall apart

01:31:37.540 i would say that nolan is probably the most overrated filmmaker ever yeah that's quite

01:31:45.060 possible i am quite intrigued by what they're going to do with um oh the little one ellie yes

01:31:50.620 ellen page yes have you seen she's been boxing lately on the social media it has passed my

01:31:55.940 timeline they've managed to find somebody um i think it's an actual man who is as small as she

01:32:00.740 is so that doesn't give the impression she's only like five foot one well yeah she's a girl well

01:32:05.760 yes yes yeah and the annoying thing about that is they keep showing pictures of her now contrasted

01:32:12.140 with pictures of what she used to look like and it's just one of those horrible reminders of

01:32:15.360 oh yeah you were really pretty once yes tragedy i mean she would have gone past 30 at some point

01:32:20.760 anyway so oh she'd look basically the same anyway yes but i do but i think it would be really funny

01:32:28.140 if she's like achilles or whatever it is i mean it'd be funny if she played any male character

01:32:34.280 to be honest i'm pretty sure she is because she's in the trailer now oh is she doing so i didn't

01:32:38.420 doing swordy stuff right right doing swordy stuff well actually somebody's pointing a sword at her

01:32:44.440 so maybe she tried to fight and it lasted like a second we don't know yet and i'm not going to

01:32:50.240 watch so i'll never know uh actually quite a funny uh comment to just end with here dan

01:32:54.800 from your segment geordie swordsman says dan's daughter looking at the on-off switch for his

01:32:59.760 life support well he did make me watch thor love and thunder yep yeah absolutely well thank you

01:33:07.060 for joining gentlemen i hope you've enjoyed the show ladies and gentlemen as well and look forward

01:33:11.480 to seeing you on the podcast tomorrow take care

01:33:37.060 Thank you.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 02, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1453

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