The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1454

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters. I am joined today by Nate and Nick and

00:00:07.140 we're going to be talking about why Europe hates itself and what's going on there. We're going to

00:00:12.600 talk a little bit about the state of Britain's policing. The police just hate you. We're going

00:00:19.500 to talk a little bit about Restore's policy on that and then we're going to talk about

00:00:23.160 post-liberalism and the war between Farage and Burnham. Yeah, Burnham's the new Farage,

00:00:27.880 that's the claim that is quite a claim i've not heard that is quite a claim yeah okay

00:00:34.940 definitely betty um you want to tell us a little bit about what's going on oh there's something

00:00:41.240 that's happening this afternoon we are doing a lads hour about what we love about america

00:00:47.100 it's right there on screen and it's it's uh it's quite revealing shall we say

00:00:53.420 quite revealing uh join us for that at three so in two hours from now all right well from america

00:01:01.360 we'll go across the pond and we'll talk about europe so europe hates itself uh massively in

00:01:09.700 fact i'm just going to go through a bit of a journey here but the segment itself europe hates

00:01:17.200 itself the the title is quite true in fact it's enshrined in its own acts uh which is kind of

00:01:23.460 mental um but yeah madness absolutely madness so there's this thing called the save europe act

00:01:29.300 right you met you guys may have heard of it i'm just gonna take on a bit of a journey and we'll

00:01:32.840 have a conversation about it um so the save europe act who launched it dutch activist eva

00:01:38.760 vladinga brook and austrian identitarian martin selner it was launched uh at the european

00:01:46.280 Migration Summit in Porto, Portugal. It's received public support from figures like

00:01:51.920 Victor Orban, Spanish Vox leader, Santiago Abascal, other Europe, just general, I say

00:01:58.420 European, right? I mean, it's just normal people. Normal people are like, yeah, this

00:02:01.320 is great. This is a good idea.

00:02:04.000 It's the idea insane and revolutionary because it believes that Europeans are actually European. 0.99

00:02:10.220 Well, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Let me just kind of say what it actually is

00:02:13.400 first it's not a law it's not been passed there's no law it's a citizen driven petition campaign

00:02:20.400 aiming to collect 1 million signatures i think i think they've done that now i think they've

00:02:26.440 reached like 450 000 within like a week or something it's quite crazy really um but it's

00:02:31.660 just a petition right and so the threshold itself um is is like the minimum for seven member states

00:02:37.980 if it succeeds in reaching this required signatures it proper properly registers with

00:02:44.680 the european commission and then at that point the commission is obliged to meet with the organizers

00:02:50.860 hold a public hearing and issue a formal written response explaining whether and how it will act

00:02:58.380 on the proposal so that's kind of what it is this is what they've launched it as um so you know it's

00:03:05.100 like a blown up version of what we have we have like petitions for for parliament right so it's

00:03:09.680 quite similar uh it does not automatically become law that's important to state um so what is it

00:03:15.500 what is this great grand awful right-wing nonsense that people hate so much uh the initiative calls

00:03:22.920 for a major overhaul of eu migration and asylum policy framed around protecting what it calls the

00:03:29.360 ethno-cultural identity and demographic continuity of european nations radical right yeah it's like

00:03:37.820 you want your children to have a future yeah holy cow that's just madness absolutely madness you see

00:03:42.960 those little signatures popping in as we're going live it's good i mean it is actually quite good

00:03:47.060 overall uh so and basically to to to get demographic security is the aim which i think

00:03:56.200 everyone in the west is feeling everyone knows that this is this is the uh epochal

00:04:03.100 uh sort of quandary of our age yes right and it truly is so the key points of this thing is

00:04:11.760 basically to an immediate moratorium on new non-european non-western immigration channels 0.94

00:04:18.240 which makes sense right it's recognizing that cultures are different you know people are

00:04:24.700 different it's pretty standard stuff obviously i mean if if the romans with their technology

00:04:30.160 could police the mediterranean and control movement in the mediterranean we can do it

00:04:35.720 you would assume that the modern europe could do something similar you could and stop the boats

00:04:42.960 and stop the immigration and do things that seem sensible but i think you'd have to upset some

00:04:48.100 women i've got a response later in the uh later in this segment to explain to explain what you're

00:04:55.740 you're giving over for the complete erasure of your culture but um we'll get to that in a minute

00:05:02.460 so it also calls for the suspension of asylum processing for economic migrants and people 1.00

00:05:08.260 from safe countries which makes perfect sense you've got a safe country get out of my country

00:05:13.000 none of the countries in the mediterranean basin have a war other than israel yeah yeah yeah so 0.88

00:05:19.360 yeah once you're in anywhere between morocco and and egypt or now even syria

00:05:26.300 you're not running from war now sure they're also trying to bring in climate as a reason aren't they

00:05:31.920 now that was another thing that they were like oh climate's a reason why i have we could just

00:05:35.660 accept wild idea that you might object to and think is extremist and racist invest in air

00:05:41.960 conditioning oh this is the thing yeah that's true that is interesting idea we talked about

00:05:46.680 last week yes aircon is far right now that's the problem i know it's very extreme but creating heat

00:05:52.760 islands am i by having aircon something like that this is what i heard is that why dubai's hot

00:05:57.980 yeah too many heat what came first yeah it's not the desert was it the heat i wanted to move

00:06:04.580 i wanted to move hot air outside you're a nazi i don't know apparently i don't really apparently

00:06:10.560 You're supposed to use yoghurt on your windowsill.

00:06:13.040 Oh, yes.

00:06:13.940 Yes.

00:06:14.400 Well, you know.

00:06:15.880 Goose steps to install that air con.

00:06:17.660 Right. 0.56

00:06:18.900 So they also call for halting new study visas

00:06:21.800 and family reunification visas for non-Europeans. 1.00

00:06:26.280 Pretty standard stuff.

00:06:27.280 I mean, Britain, I mean, the amount of cash 1.00

00:06:30.400 that's gone out to third world is insane. 0.99

00:06:32.800 And also Europeans, I think, 0.76

00:06:34.880 in terms of the student visa program.

00:06:37.460 For the student loan program, sorry, for universities, it's mental. 0.99

00:06:43.040 In the rare cases where the migrants include a family, 1.00

00:06:46.940 the family would then take a child of a relative's family. 0.97

00:06:52.380 And then that child would be used to justify bringing the rest of the relative's family

00:06:59.660 based on family reunification policies.

00:07:02.760 Oh, I hate all of that.

00:07:04.040 I know.

00:07:04.860 I hate all of that.

00:07:05.760 They also call for strict limits on all legal migration

00:07:09.760 until social cohesion is restored. 1.00

00:07:12.140 It's pretty fair.

00:07:12.960 I mean, breakdown.

00:07:14.000 It's radical, isn't it?

00:07:15.520 Breakdown of culture and cohesions falling apart.

00:07:18.500 And they're like, can we fix that first?

00:07:22.740 Maybe.

00:07:23.400 Can we do that? 0.99

00:07:25.860 Creation of a European-wide remigration system.

00:07:29.400 Accelerated returns to deportations for illegal migrants,

00:07:32.520 rejected asylum seekers and foreign criminals.

00:07:34.160 which you know europe and britain has a massive issue with people that shouldn't be here just

00:07:39.820 committing rampant and barbaric acts like the most just depraved gross things you've ever seen

00:07:47.600 in your life it's just it's it's daily and it's awful they also call for stronger protections

00:07:54.240 of the eu's external borders a reduction of pull factors such as money that's a big one

00:08:02.600 this open borders and infinite benefit system i was speaking to william cluson about it he's like

00:08:07.920 yeah it's the only department that doesn't have a budget i know this is europe but just to use

00:08:11.540 example of britain you can it just goes up and up and up benefits has no budget it just goes up

00:08:16.420 forever yes as does the immigration so how is that staying what infinite benefits infinite

00:08:20.780 immigration that's what we currently have it's a false economy isn't it i mean it's never gonna

00:08:24.520 you can't make those two ends meet but it's deliberate i mean it's so past the point of

00:08:30.420 saying oh they're just misguided somewhat and they're making some mistakes in policy of course

00:08:35.840 you know it is so obviously deliberate it is so obviously intended to destroy christendom

00:08:43.040 and erase it from existence yeah well what we now have is burnham who just to try and win an

00:08:48.580 election is going to have to try and get some money from benefits because we've got all these

00:08:52.260 needs these people in employment or education he's going to try and sell it as let's get back

00:08:56.300 to work for your mental health neat neat what they're calling them yeah they're the young

00:09:01.020 people who are not in don't tell me there's tiktok videos of i'm a neat of course we don't do

00:09:05.980 anything every day and i just young people not in education employment or training so

00:09:10.460 he's going to be trying he's going to try and get them and say you've got to get back into work but

00:09:13.980 for your own health but the labor back bench just want to give them free money forever yeah even

00:09:17.840 though welfare spending was 233 billion in 2025 but exceeding 131 billion income tax that's where

00:09:23.800 we are anyway sorry no no no this is all important so so that that's what they called for that's what

00:09:28.880 the save europe hack wants you to do right that's what they want europe the european union to to uh 0.72

00:09:34.180 to do do we agree that that's pretty good no i think this is pure nazism oh no i i think it's

00:09:41.100 just sort of you know i think you're on that podcast mate oh yes i think you should get out

00:09:48.880 here you're fired uh but it's pretty normal isn't it pretty standard stuff right it's so it's so

00:09:56.740 elementary just common sense yeah exactly realistically it's just common sense so

00:10:01.180 unfortunately the uh the the well they've replied to it now so the european union has officially

00:10:09.540 replied to it um now obviously that's quite tiny um so i've got it written down i'm going to read

00:10:14.000 down and it just says uh this is the save europe act it says this is the full email of the european

00:10:19.620 union we decided to release it to the public because you have a right to know how tyrannical

00:10:23.180 they are while they allow every left-wing eci to pass through they don't even dare to accept the

00:10:28.680 save europe act if our demands are against the core values of this european union then these

00:10:33.200 values are bad so let me just read uh the stuff i i won't go over what they've they've responded to

00:10:39.760 directly in terms of what they're they're saying but their actual response itself because there's

00:10:44.180 they they quote a whole bunch of things in the save europe act uh and then they basically say

00:10:49.880 that's just honestly um absolutely mad so they say um oh where is it i gotta try and find it now

00:11:01.520 um so because of the because of everything that they've everything that i've just stipulated right

00:11:07.840 that what they're calling for yes that they're effectively allergic to doing it so europe hates

00:11:14.360 itself enshrined in its own regulations and laws so it says uh where the says uh we note that the

00:11:21.940 proposed objectives of the initiative has as their starting point the temporary moratorium on new

00:11:27.060 non-western immigration channels the proposed generalized moratorium on immigration defined on

00:11:33.500 the basis of ethnic and cultural continuity of native peoples of europe against what it

00:11:39.720 characterizes as demographic replacement by non-western and non-european migrants would be

00:11:44.840 based on the ethnic cultural or civilizational origin of the persons concerned yet that's the

00:11:51.980 point yes yes therefore it would constitute discrimination grounded on race and ethnic

00:11:59.620 origin and be manifestly contrary to article 21 of the charter of fundamental rights of the

00:12:08.260 european union and to the values enshrined in article 2 of the treaty on european union

00:12:16.420 upon which the union is founded so the entire union is apparently founded on ethnic replacement

00:12:25.180 So just to clarify, the European Union is predicated

00:12:31.200 on denying the existence of something uniquely European.

00:12:35.740 Well, that's what they say.

00:12:36.520 And why did they call it the European Union?

00:12:38.720 Mate.

00:12:39.340 Why not just call it the Global Union?

00:12:40.920 That is enshrined in Article 2 of the Treaty on the European Union

00:12:43.980 upon which the Union is founded.

00:12:47.220 Discrimination really got a bad rap, didn't it, somewhere along the line? 0.98

00:12:50.500 Discrimination is a good thing.

00:12:51.420 We do it all the time.

00:12:52.420 Prejudice is good, discrimination is good, and tolerance is good.

00:12:55.740 We discriminate every day in everything we do. 0.99

00:12:58.040 The idea that you can't discriminate between different groups,

00:13:00.640 for example, coming to your country, some of whom,

00:13:02.960 let's just even be quite liberal, some of whom help the country,

00:13:06.180 some of whom clearly negatives just economically,

00:13:10.940 why can't you discriminate between those groups just for a start?

00:13:14.340 Matt is actually mad.

00:13:16.720 That would be on grounds, they say on grounds of race and ethnicity, 1.00

00:13:19.260 but if you're saying, well, we don't want people from X country

00:13:21.560 because they don't contribute a person from another country.

00:13:24.220 Couldn't that be argued to be discriminating on grounds of race,

00:13:26.640 according to this?

00:13:27.460 Yeah.

00:13:28.220 Isn't having a country discrimination?

00:13:30.960 Yes, but the European Union isn't, is it?

00:13:33.940 It's an attempt to erase the borders of Europe.

00:13:37.660 They're saying imagine there's no...

00:13:38.460 But not even the borders of Europe.

00:13:39.840 Yeah, what of the world.

00:13:40.940 Exactly.

00:13:41.420 They're saying imagine there's no country.

00:13:42.960 It's easy if you try.

00:13:44.120 That's what they're saying.

00:13:45.860 That's essentially their position.

00:13:47.260 It's John Lennon's position.

00:13:48.440 It is genuinely insane.

00:13:50.380 I'm coming to the conclusion that you're not going to have a reason with these people successfully.

00:13:54.280 No, not at all.

00:13:54.860 And that proceduralism isn't going to get you anywhere.

00:13:57.080 Not at all, not based on this.

00:13:58.280 So it goes on.

00:13:59.000 There's a little bit more insanity, so I'll just read it out.

00:14:00.920 In accordance with Article 6 of the ECI regulation, in order for an initiative to be registered,

00:14:08.880 it must not be manifestly contrary to the values of the union as set out in Article 2

00:14:14.540 and the rights enshrined in the Charter.

00:14:16.420 so what they're suggesting is that unless you agree with us we won't listen to you yeah we're

00:14:21.480 on we're on this this train track right our destination is ethnic replacement we are going

00:14:27.020 there no matter what we founded this entire project on ethnic replacement we will not

00:14:34.240 move from these tracks no matter how many of you are raped murder victims of assaults doesn't it

00:14:40.440 doesn't matter yes we will not change because that's the destination yes no matter what new

00:14:47.480 data gets pulled up because it was enshrined in the charter that's it it's done the level of

00:14:53.760 insanity here is off the charts europe the european union it's a suicide pact right actually

00:15:04.640 yeah i didn't think we could say that so that's why i didn't call the because it was going to be 0.84

00:15:08.240 like European Union, suicide note.

00:15:10.540 But that's what it is.

00:15:12.480 What do you think you're going to have a union of

00:15:14.640 when you're all replaced? 1.00

00:15:17.000 You utter imbeciles. 1.00

00:15:19.140 But this brings me back to the fact that in 2005, 1.00

00:15:21.980 when the European Constitution was being debated,

00:15:24.500 the Catholic Church tried to make them mention

00:15:28.380 Europe's Christian heritage.

00:15:30.940 Oh, and they were like, no thanks. 1.00

00:15:32.220 They absolutely refused.

00:15:33.960 Oh, that's insane.

00:15:34.780 They absolutely and completely refused.

00:15:37.500 and none of the european states actually backed the church or for the most part none of the none

00:15:43.380 of the big ones backed the church mental and so they insist on this complete erasure 0.79

00:15:49.680 of europe's identity and on adopting this essentially global homo ideology 0.94

00:15:55.280 yeah so basically this save europe act which was you know trying to follow the democratic process 0.96

00:16:02.940 has now just been completely nuked because the democratic process is only for the liberal side

00:16:11.280 precise we're not even that i mean far left yes not even liberalism i mean this is this is

00:16:16.440 actually i mean it's just a level of insanity no this is what it's founded on the core values

00:16:22.640 are to replace you and it doesn't really matter you you you can have a salient point but it

00:16:28.860 doesn't matter not interested um so i mean it's just insane and i wanted to sort of highlight it

00:16:36.280 and so you then see brilliant doesn't work um and so then you see stuff like this uh which is awful

00:16:43.980 so save europe act i saw this actually someone else but they've tweeted it as well it just says

00:16:48.140 every single day we hear yet another story like this we cannot and should not have to live like

00:16:52.040 this so if you don't know what this is christian zedig or zedig uh is an individual that was just 0.73

00:16:59.660 watching with his friends the world cup and a bunch of africans came in uh to a bar to a pub

00:17:06.340 or you know the area that he was when their side scored they sort of taunted the group when the 0.99

00:17:15.640 africans side scored they they taunted the group so when their side won they made a funny taunt

00:17:23.240 back yeah this is the european typically british way you know swedish banter yeah yeah and then

00:17:31.180 the africans just run in they punched him they started a big fight they punched him in the head 0.85

00:17:36.380 he fell down and they stomped him to death done gone just in an instant so they went there expressly 0.98

00:17:42.840 with that in mind and that's what you get for support on your football team now apparently

00:17:47.080 and like uh staying away from them isn't even an option well no because they get foisted upon you

00:17:54.720 get smeared all across the country this country for starters you know we've got the operation

00:18:00.280 scatter yes which is now just go more and more and more and they're given uh brand new houses

00:18:05.880 New houses, like £255,000 worth houses.

00:18:09.820 Just smear it everywhere across the entire nation.

00:18:14.020 And so, I mean, this is what you're going to keep getting.

00:18:16.720 But, but, but, but, have you thought?

00:18:19.620 Have you thought about this?

00:18:21.800 Without immigration, Spain would lose 19% of its gross domestic products.

00:18:27.820 Have you thought about this?

00:18:28.900 Have you thought about this?

00:18:29.700 That 90,000 bars would be forced to shut down.

00:18:32.760 Have you thought about that?

00:18:33.520 You might be getting replaced, but there are some bars, mate.

00:18:37.680 So you can go to the bars. 0.87

00:18:38.900 You might get killed at the bars.

00:18:40.760 This is not true.

00:18:42.000 No, I know.

00:18:42.540 The idea that immigration grows GDP is not true.

00:18:45.620 No, I mean, even such radicals as Keir Starmer admitted this in this country.

00:18:50.040 Exactly.

00:18:51.960 And secondly, would you rather have a million dollars or your children?

00:18:58.100 Well, I'd rather have my children, thank you.

00:18:59.980 Do you want a civilization?

00:19:01.720 Exactly.

00:19:02.160 Or do you want some money?

00:19:03.520 no i'll have a civilization thank you would you like to go outside your house and be happy and 0.93

00:19:08.900 smiley and trust someone isn't going to run up and i don't know one punch ko you and then stomp

00:19:13.600 on your head yeah i'd yeah i'd rather have the the nice happy civilization to be honest there's

00:19:18.940 no argument for it left because we know it doesn't actually improve the economy now but certainly per

00:19:23.540 capita but in general really and and it's kind of like the air con it's like the argument now is

00:19:28.360 just we hate you we just want to do bad things like what's the argument now for it it started

00:19:33.040 out oh look it's the economy it's like well it's not the economy all right we're just doing it

00:19:35.740 anyway the argument is a compassion one nowadays it's been brought around to know but that's the

00:19:41.440 argument that the lefties are trying to bring in is that no we should be compassionate we should

00:19:45.240 be doing this like shabana mahoud for instance saying yeah we've always had this we know we

00:19:49.600 haven't we've always been tolerant no we haven't we had one of the biggest empires known known to

00:19:55.560 the the entire world in fact we we were so intolerant we changed cultures because we saw

00:20:00.280 them as barbaric no we weren't tolerant we've never been tolerant that's the point in fact

00:20:05.360 actually tolerance the very short-lived experiment of tolerance in this country has only gotten us

00:20:10.220 raped and murdered yep doesn't even sound good on the face it doesn't really tolerance

00:20:14.560 it's not really it's not a great thing is it i'm tolerating things i don't want to tolerate things

00:20:21.020 i want to enjoy things i tolerate being alive around these people no i'd rather just enjoy

00:20:25.820 being alive around nice normal people thank you so that's it europe hates itself and the only way

00:20:33.080 to change this is to elect people that will as far as i'm concerned completely annihilate the

00:20:39.140 european union because if the union is founded enshrined in its charter as they have literally

00:20:44.860 stated themselves believe them when they say this you know that they're the entire purpose 0.67

00:20:51.120 is to just amalgamate this awful grey blob of nonsense. 0.66

00:20:58.060 You will not have a civilization, so just disband it. 0.94

00:21:01.060 It's completely pointless.

00:21:03.640 Criminal. Absolutely criminal.

00:21:05.960 Let's lead a couple of your rumble rants.

00:21:09.300 Yeah, sorry about that.

00:21:10.880 What's that?

00:21:12.240 That's it.

00:21:13.240 Go on.

00:21:13.740 No, you do it. Go on.

00:21:15.220 That's a random name. 1.00

00:21:16.740 You should put me in charge of the remigration initiative. 0.58

00:21:19.600 after all i'm an expert at uh upsetting women uh that's a random name can't read that thank you

00:21:29.020 uh the engaged few i always preferred a perfect circles version of john leonard's original

00:21:34.300 haven't seen it haven't heard it i should say uh everything that the existing order does is to

00:21:41.420 prevent nice i like what you did there moving on uh fallen firebird uh civil war posting is useless

00:21:50.000 but more and more i think that the colossal rigid anti-white system destroying us will only be

00:21:54.400 thrown down by force terrible as that would be they're too entrenched now it sounds like it

00:22:01.120 unfortunately um so let's have a look at the condition of of british policing shall we

00:22:09.700 aren't we and uh what is going on there um so over the weekend i hate this so much yeah

00:22:18.680 what happened basically was the following and we should we should watch the video together

00:22:23.720 there is a video yes i think so okay um there is a drunk guy on a night out

00:22:30.240 okay he's white ah that's his first crime uh he encounters a group who isn't white that's

00:22:39.320 a second crime, and they attack him. And let's have a look at the video.

00:23:02.760 And one of them passes him to the floor.

00:23:06.480 The other one punches him in the back of the head.

00:23:09.320 and thankfully the police interfered and who did the police go for immediately the white guy

00:23:16.260 now he's just had his head slammed into uh he's just had uh a punch thrown at the back of his head

00:23:23.300 so he gets up fighting push to the floor and then punch so rather disoriented at that point

00:23:28.260 and you don't know as well like the amount of videos the constant videos you see of people

00:23:32.700 being stomped on on the floor by these absolutely degenerate savages i mean you know the fact that 0.67

00:23:38.280 he manages manages to get up in his eyes you must like you can only imagine he's thinking oh my god 0.98

00:23:43.600 i'm up finally and just quickly gone to defend himself exactly exactly very standard uh somebody

00:23:50.420 who happens to be there tells the police that hey he was the guy who who got attacked and then the

00:23:56.340 police immediately arrest him the guy who was attacked because having had his uh head punched

00:24:04.460 and been thrown to the floor, he got up fighting.

00:24:07.240 But also, notice demeanour.

00:24:09.240 He's actually really calm.

00:24:10.280 He's like, no, I'm okay.

00:24:11.940 Like when he realises that it's the police.

00:24:13.920 So clearly it was a mistake.

00:24:15.280 He stops, exactly.

00:24:16.260 I mean, the clue is in his actions.

00:24:18.600 He's like, oh, yeah, no, sorry.

00:24:20.580 Well, he didn't say it, but do you know what I mean?

00:24:22.060 Like his actions are...

00:24:24.260 Exactly.

00:24:25.340 And then the police proceed to swear at him,

00:24:27.620 try to force him in the car the wrong way.

00:24:31.120 They just act like complete little tyrants.

00:24:34.460 which is what they are and this is coming after the novak case and this is coming after

00:24:40.180 this case where we had a an ex-soldier matt styler who was attending a protest

00:24:45.720 and the police decided to just start smashing him with shields and then they charge him

00:24:53.980 hoping that he would plead guilty as a lot of other protesters have done he doesn't plead guilty

00:25:01.220 and then the police say actually we don't have any evidence that he did anything wrong

00:25:04.420 we just bashed him on the head and on the back a bunch of times with our shields while he was down

00:25:10.180 the process is the punishment was he drinking from a water fountain or something the thing is 1.00

00:25:14.720 he's part of the wrong class of citizens and and it just keeps on repeating time and time and again

00:25:22.460 the only difference is it's finally getting some attention Robert Jemmick has already posted about

00:25:26.540 this one yep that's the new thing that that that is beginning to happen so robert jenner posted

00:25:32.580 about this some of the conservatives posted about this rupert lope posted about this

00:25:36.300 the right is now having the conversation and you see how this woman talks to him like

00:25:42.100 observe the incompetence

00:25:55.600 you physically can't get into a car like this right the kid lad's too tall and they're just

00:26:03.220 shoving his head down it's just also i mean all because he got beaten up on the floor

00:26:07.700 if he wanted to run away from those girls he could easily overpower them they're little

00:26:12.900 they're little girls by comparison exactly he immediately stopped he's literally trying to

00:26:17.920 comply it's like daniel's shaver vibes try actually trying to comply and it's not good

00:26:23.760 Yep, yep.

00:26:25.080 They just hate you.

00:26:27.240 They're allowed to hate and they know they can and they can get it.

00:26:29.160 Until very recently, perhaps, with Henry Novak,

00:26:30.920 they know they can get away with it.

00:26:32.340 They'll be celebrated for it.

00:26:33.800 We saw the same thing with Henry Novak.

00:26:35.780 We saw the police not arresting the guy who murdered him

00:26:38.760 when they were arresting him on a charge of attempted murder.

00:26:42.320 They didn't cuff him. 0.98

00:26:43.880 That's totally disgusting.

00:26:44.760 They didn't cuff him on a charge of attempted murder.

00:26:47.580 Have you got a response from the Birmingham police for this?

00:26:49.880 Oh, yes, I do.

00:26:51.240 Yes, I do.

00:26:51.740 But I wanted to just point this out.

00:26:53.240 because you mentioned earlier the free new houses that the migrants were given the police are

00:26:59.560 standing guard outside of their houses and as somebody else pointed out they're getting 1960s

00:27:05.740 britain decent houses police present on the streets and everybody else is getting uk'd yeah

00:27:12.220 and uh a bunch of others have pointed out that you know this is not acceptable the officer didn't

00:27:21.040 identify herself yeah no you have to say that you're the if you're getting a guy in the middle

00:27:25.700 of a fight with his adrenaline rushing and him in a flight or fight mode you have to say hey i'm a

00:27:32.860 police officer don't attack me yeah before you make physical contact it's a it's very standard

00:27:38.620 it's a preemptive strike he well it's not even a preemptive strike at that point it's self-defense

00:27:42.820 he has been attacked he didn't know that it was a policewoman yeah and when he did he stopped 0.69

00:27:47.160 attacking absolutely ridiculous so this is pretty obvious and you know the way that this 0.98

00:27:53.300 little tyrant was speaking is insane if you hit a white police woman at an airport and you're one 0.98

00:28:01.280 of the right groups you get a whole campaign about why you're amazing he's got to be in an 0.97

00:28:06.260 airport you've got to be the right yeah yeah maybe if he was wearing blackface while beating 0.85

00:28:10.800 officers it would have been fine you're allowed to break their nose if you're the right people 0.67

00:28:14.600 yep and then birmingham police comes out and says we're aware of footage showing the arrest

00:28:20.260 of a man after a disorder not after an attack on him by violent foreigners not yeah just a disorder

00:28:27.460 you know officers found a group of men fighting no no there was one guy fighting a group getting

00:28:32.400 pummeled by a group yeah exactly as the incident was dealt with an officer was punched didn't

00:28:39.420 mention that she didn't identify herself that's not right as the incident was dealt with no

00:28:43.620 as the incident begun

00:28:45.200 it wasn't being dealt with at that point in time

00:28:47.540 she just ran in

00:28:49.100 didn't identify herself 0.91

00:28:50.140 and grabbed a guy who'd just been

00:28:51.560 and he wasn't

00:28:52.300 she wasn't even really punched

00:28:53.280 it was a wild swing

00:28:54.300 by a guy who was disorientated

00:28:55.840 who just got up

00:28:56.720 who just sort of missed basically

00:28:58.200 yep

00:28:58.740 and he was arrested and charged

00:29:00.860 with assaulting a police officer

00:29:01.980 now the funny thing is

00:29:03.160 I mean even

00:29:03.880 even his

00:29:04.620 even his

00:29:05.300 punch itself

00:29:06.780 implicit in the direction of travel of his punches

00:29:09.980 the fact he thought he was

00:29:11.260 going to be punching a guy

00:29:12.500 because it went literally like above their head

00:29:14.620 and knocked their hat off.

00:29:16.060 I'm like, come on.

00:29:17.960 It's so obvious.

00:29:20.140 And notably, Birmingham police did not arrest

00:29:22.980 any of the three attackers.

00:29:24.840 They just let them go.

00:29:25.720 They didn't even go after them, did they?

00:29:26.700 They let them go.

00:29:27.400 They let them go.

00:29:29.200 And then they said,

00:29:30.020 the incident has been reviewed.

00:29:31.400 We have no concern over the officers' actions.

00:29:34.620 Really?

00:29:35.440 This is what happened with Henry Novak.

00:29:37.520 Initially, they said that the police had done nothing wrong.

00:29:41.460 Now they're going to investigate.

00:29:42.500 they wanted to put out a statement blaming it on henry so on initially the family had to fight

00:29:47.480 against it yeah actually insane i mean this believe it believe it 2026 policing you could

00:29:54.740 like this is them being this is them happy with the process itself yeah you can be set upon

00:30:00.120 by animals yep and you defend yourself yeah you're gonna get arrested and they're happy with that

00:30:06.680 yes and it's so funny oh we would ask that the footage is not shared uh to allow the legal

00:30:11.700 pro no mate no sorry actually the only way for the legal process to deliver justice is for the 0.54

00:30:18.080 footage to be shared and for them to be shamed yeah because that's what we saw with the novak

00:30:22.060 case yeah and that's what keeps on happening it's always the same thing police bias is real

00:30:29.760 and it only goes one way that's the same police force that went on sky news during the 2024 riots

00:30:38.640 saying that the Muslims may police themselves.

00:30:43.420 Is this the same one that was like,

00:30:44.680 can you put your weapons in the market?

00:30:45.880 Yeah, they get community leaders.

00:30:48.300 They get community leaders and community liaisons policing them,

00:30:50.940 whereas you get attacks for police.

00:30:54.280 You get the enforcement arm of the regime.

00:30:57.400 Where you get worse version of the police.

00:30:59.280 Exactly.

00:31:00.160 Which is a politicised enforcement arm of the prevailing ideology.

00:31:03.300 They get a nice friendly local guy,

00:31:05.160 do you mind putting down your weapons today?

00:31:07.000 No, you want to keep it?

00:31:07.800 Okay, that's basically what they get.

00:31:10.400 They get social workers.

00:31:11.860 That's what they get.

00:31:12.960 That's what it is.

00:31:13.920 And that was the statement that was in that woman

00:31:16.000 that got her nose broken at Manchester.

00:31:18.500 She was like, policing's about empathy.

00:31:20.080 No, it's not.

00:31:20.820 It's not about empathy.

00:31:21.640 It's about dealing with criminals.

00:31:23.140 It's about dealing with criminals.

00:31:24.220 You want to be empathetic, right?

00:31:26.020 They become a social worker.

00:31:27.140 Exactly.

00:31:27.800 That's what they are.

00:31:29.100 Exactly.

00:31:29.280 It had the policing by consent appeals element

00:31:31.820 when it was a cohesive, high-trust society.

00:31:34.820 these people don't they don't give their consent to be police and so that's why

00:31:38.920 they get a social working system and we get like a brutal you get bashed in the head substandard

00:31:46.620 police yes you get bashed taking their anger out on you as opposed to i was gonna say that

00:31:51.800 individuals that should be the direction of i think there is an element of that where

00:31:54.920 they're so hemmed in by what they can do and they're so politicized but one thing they know

00:31:58.420 they can do is beat up on a white kid and they just think like today's a good my day sort of

00:32:03.500 think because it's a tough job and there must be an element of that yeah which is which is

00:32:07.740 understandable they're human beings but they're being told institutionally to release their anger

00:32:14.780 on one group of people and to avoid at all costs antagonizing everybody else so james murdoch in

00:32:21.640 that college of police and guidance very yeah it's it's very clear i did a segment on the

00:32:25.560 college of policing guidance and all that stuff it's it's very racist it's transparently racist

00:32:30.760 And it's essentially a colonial police force working on behalf of the immigrants to keep the natives down.

00:32:39.600 This is what it is. It is literally acting simply to keep the natives down and to impose infinity immigration on the newly colonized subjects. 0.97

00:32:49.400 And the insane thing of achieving equity of outcome through policing.

00:32:52.840 So police have to show up and make political decisions based not on what you've done, but how we can get an equal number of animals.

00:32:58.280 where the restore policy actually works and does a lot of good work there okay and as somebody

00:33:03.420 points out politics is really about not just the collective exercise of violence but the collective 0.99

00:33:08.000 restraining of violence and the reality is that you can't have women in these roles because they

00:33:14.760 are not going to be the violent ones they're not going to be the one when women don't know violence 0.56

00:33:19.500 it's not going to be them uh so bennett's phylactery is absolutely right about this 0.77

00:33:24.920 And you just keep on seeing the same thing time and time and again with this group of black people attacking a white guy and what happens? The white guy gets arrested. It's just not surprising at this point. 0.63

00:33:40.040 You also see it in protests and things. 0.99

00:33:42.700 They're like a group of violent Muslims or violent left-wingers. 1.00

00:33:48.480 And there's someone who's of the right or centrist-leaning, 1.00

00:33:52.300 and they're brave enough to just walk up to them.

00:33:54.300 And the police are like, no, we're arresting you.

00:33:55.720 Why?

00:33:56.080 For your safety.

00:33:57.400 Yes.

00:33:58.560 Sorry, what you're arresting?

00:34:01.180 Sorry, sorry.

00:34:02.080 You're arresting them because they might be the victim of a crime.

00:34:05.240 Yes.

00:34:06.260 No, that's not how that works.

00:34:07.980 That's not how it should work.

00:34:09.280 it's mental it is now you see it time after time or it's just so so frustrating now morgoth did a

00:34:17.380 very good job uh with millennial woes and horrors explaining the political story as to how britain

00:34:25.960 got here starting with the uh black riots in the 1980s going through the uh what's his name

00:34:33.760 Lawrence murder and how the institutions weaponized all of this to create two-tier

00:34:42.780 policing. And they make the excellent point that the two-tier policing really dates back to the

00:34:48.320 80s. Because after the riots by essentially blacks, it became obvious that there wasn't 0.96

00:34:56.640 going to be policing by consent there. And it became obvious that you had to deal with the 1.00

00:35:01.360 separate community that wasn't willing to operate based on the Peel principles, which,

00:35:07.740 as you guys have pointed out, can only function in a cohesive society that has genuine trust in

00:35:14.880 its institutions. Your civilization has to be completely eroded and dismantled to accommodate

00:35:21.500 for uncivilized people. Yes, exactly. Civilization belongs to the civilized. 1.00

00:35:27.080 And we can't have a civilisation now because we have led in hordes of uncivilised barbarians.

00:35:32.300 If you look at police in India, or if you look at police in any part in Africa and how they operate,

00:35:39.060 I mean, it is completely political at every level.

00:35:43.160 Now, Restore announced that they're appointing Henry Bolton to be their new security spokesman

00:35:49.280 and came out with a policy document on policing.

00:35:54.660 so what the morgoff bit does is explain the political story the strength of this policy

00:36:02.880 is that it explains the legislative story right right what it does is that it goes through the

00:36:08.180 different laws that the police are operating under that essentially compel them to behave

00:36:15.560 completely politically does it does it say that they need to disband the college of policing as

00:36:20.640 Yes. Yes. Yes. That thing is a cancer. And it also explains how various constitutional

00:36:27.920 principles, including what the office of constable was, like every constable, every police constable

00:36:35.200 is a servant of the crown. He's not just some random guy. He's not an employee.

00:36:40.720 He's an agent of the crown and he's invested with authority. And each one of them is invested with

00:36:46.580 that authority individually this is the thing people forget that the state has the monopoly

00:36:51.780 of violence over you and and the responsibility of having that monopoly is completely lost now

00:36:59.880 completely yes absolutely again i understand why policemen would get angry but a level of decorum 0.74

00:37:09.760 is still is still desired to be like get to the car you effing you know d-head like what are you

00:37:15.160 doing like what you're doing this guy's that compliant and you're debasing yourself by acting 0.62

00:37:20.780 in this this way completely like it's all i understand like yeah i understand shouting at

00:37:24.900 someone who's being violent towards you like you know get on the effing floor and stuff like that

00:37:29.280 yeah that's fair enough fair enough fine fair enough a guy who's in handcuffs and he's just

00:37:34.520 like mate i i didn't i was being punched and get you the effing good now what are you what

00:37:39.380 yeah exactly like they they had no concern for evidence no concern for what was actually going

00:37:44.540 on also no concern for duty yes they don't have duty they they really don't feel any particular

00:37:50.620 sense of duty what disturbs me as well i don't know if you we're going to show it so i didn't

00:37:54.920 say it earlier but you see the photographer who just had that long chat with the police

00:37:58.800 because a councillor said something the councillor came very long some of these weird sinister

00:38:05.140 you get these meetings from the police now they come say we haven't actually broken the law we're

00:38:08.760 just having a chat we're coming to have it yes to advise you yeah yes like literally so i saw that

00:38:13.860 And this is addressed here because what's happened basically is, as is explained in this document, is that there were three phases for the erosion of the police.

00:38:22.680 The first phase was the Police Reform Act, and that basically allowed all kinds of external influences, including from the Home Secretary, to introduce all kinds of guidance.

00:38:35.180 Whereas previously, policing was genuinely an apolitical process.

00:38:40.640 It was completely not political.

00:38:42.140 It was separate from any political influence.

00:38:45.240 And the first step was introducing influence from the Home Office and the establishment of the College of Policing and the National Police Chief's Council.

00:38:53.640 So that was a major change, which really turned the police into a managerial entity rather than into an apolitical entity that was only concerned with preserving the king's peace.

00:39:05.080 right yeah the second phase was to appoint the police and crime commissioners

00:39:10.080 who were political appointees and therefore had to respond to political reality well they're the

00:39:15.500 mayors normally aren't they now with the they're becoming the mayors and not just that labor is

00:39:20.700 planning on transferring even more oversight over the police into the hands of political appointees

00:39:27.220 as part of their devolution programs brilliant which means that essentially as this document

00:39:32.900 makes it very clear that every single ethnic community with a bit of political influence

00:39:38.920 now has a say over the police. It's a kind of version of hell, isn't it? It's a kind of Tower 0.97

00:39:43.480 of Babel-esque, everyone getting their own language, their own police. Yes, exactly. Exactly.

00:39:49.360 This is what it is. We're becoming global Zimbabwe, global Rhodesia. Yeah, yeah. It's the 0.84

00:39:54.920 South Africanization of Britain. Exactly. That is what it is. And so the objective here is that, 0.95

00:40:01.620 you know, the police must consider local conditions and maintain public trust, yes, up to a point,

00:40:07.100 but they must not allow ethnic or religious pressure, political pressure, reputational fear

00:40:11.780 or allegations of prejudice to influence enforcement, public order decisions, arrest decisions,

00:40:17.920 safeguarding decisions, investigations, custody decisions, and the lawful discretion of constables.

00:40:23.460 So the idea is to go back to these principles. But the major weakness here is that this can only

00:40:29.060 happen if the demographic change is reversed. You're not going to be able to police by consent

00:40:35.620 against communities that look at you as an evil colonial power that destroyed their countries

00:40:42.880 and who look at their presence in Britain as a form of revenge. Well, that's the whole thing 0.72

00:40:47.440 about immigration in the West, especially England, especially Britain, is you brought a whole bunch

00:40:52.680 people here and you've told them um you're oppressed yes you're you're uh underprivileged

00:40:58.500 um and you know what we're the oppressors yes uh and we're racist and um we're going to weaponize

00:41:06.000 the state actually in your favor exactly and and you don't expect this to blow up in everyone's

00:41:10.980 face exactly fascinating absolutely fascinating it's it's just crazy it's just absolutely um

00:41:18.000 it's it's a level of extremism that you couldn't imagine and so what restore is is saying that they

00:41:23.760 want to reassert the peel principles restore the status of police officers including by things like

00:41:28.700 having decent uniforms as opposed and having physical standards yeah they don't have any

00:41:34.360 oh yeah they constantly lower the physical fitness requirements they keep lowering the

00:41:38.120 yes it's for women so women can get in yes so they can well and and i'd argue well yeah

00:41:43.780 And they propose a root and branch reform 0.82

00:41:51.440 of the legal environment.

00:41:53.020 And the strength of the policy

00:41:54.680 is that it does identify the bits of legislation

00:41:58.300 that have to be repealed or replaced

00:42:00.660 in order to make sure that these ideas about equity

00:42:04.780 and these ideas about equality among races

00:42:09.440 no longer apply,

00:42:10.680 but the police basically treats all individuals as equal which is genuinely required i mean i mean

00:42:20.020 yeah yeah i mean the entire police force it's like they've got no self-respect anymore either

00:42:24.500 no they really they just you look into the crime stats of like crimes that actually get resolved

00:42:29.880 in this country five percent it's laughable it's just it it's five percent of crimes are laughable

00:42:35.940 yes and that's the ones which are even that are actually reported now because there's so many

00:42:40.100 people they just go well what's the point yeah and then to top that off to look at that as a

00:42:46.800 statistic and then go unlimited immigration from third world day just bring them on in mate just

00:42:53.480 bring them on in and not expect the societal degradation just to reach peak levels like 0.74

00:42:58.940 every building that is abandoned for a month or so gets bits and pieces of the of the roof

00:43:05.980 stolen the lead the metal etc the copper gets stolen all of it gets stolen you see on on sort

00:43:13.380 of clarkson's farm uh how long does a farmer keep a gps on on one of his tractors or on one of his

00:43:19.720 combines six months at most yeah before some gang steals it and it's worth 10 000 pounds

00:43:25.420 and so you see the way in which the police just allows crime to run rampant

00:43:31.840 yeah i got my phone nick you they say oh call this number report it here you get nothing in

00:43:37.820 reply it's like and you know phones are expensive that's like a fairly in another world that's a

00:43:42.360 fairly big crime now it's like your phone 10th one this hour you know i mean it's like laughable

00:43:48.820 yeah yeah i would even report it exactly there's reports of people having their bike stolen and

00:43:53.040 literally having it tracked and go i know where it is mate can you go get it and they're like no

00:43:56.040 no we're not allowed to say well my daughter got a window smashed on her boat you did nothing you

00:44:01.080 and he couldn't do anything.

00:44:01.620 But now here you are

00:44:02.220 to give me a vague warning

00:44:03.380 about a councillor.

00:44:04.140 You can see the priorities

00:44:05.800 of the police

00:44:06.500 in everything that they do.

00:44:08.860 I mean, that one specifically

00:44:10.200 that you referenced

00:44:10.920 is insane.

00:44:12.480 Yeah, police are called out

00:44:13.860 to have a chat with someone

00:44:14.820 about someone

00:44:15.320 who hasn't broken a law.

00:44:17.200 Pre-crime.

00:44:17.520 Pre-crime.

00:44:18.080 Yeah, exactly.

00:44:19.500 So, sorry.

00:44:20.620 So you'll attend situations

00:44:22.540 like that

00:44:23.140 because there's easy pickings

00:44:24.540 for you.

00:44:24.960 What really angers me,

00:44:26.040 some people say

00:44:26.500 they're just doing their job.

00:44:27.600 I don't care.

00:44:28.200 No, that argument

00:44:28.980 doesn't wash with me anymore.

00:44:29.920 Same.

00:44:30.120 I'm done with that.

00:44:30.760 Because it's like, yeah, I said the people in all the worst regimes in history, you know, it's like, where's your responsibility? Is this what you want to do with your life? It's like, you must know this is not policing anymore. They don't, they're sort of in it. So they maybe can't see it most generously, but, or they just, they become embattled and dislike the public. But it's like, why can't you see what you're doing is obviously evil. It's like cartoonishly.

00:44:50.740 Morally wrong.

00:44:51.020 watch a film you know me like cartoonishly evil what you're doing yeah and they they make the

00:44:57.400 point that you know the language of human rights was inserted into the oath of constables so the

00:45:03.360 pre-2002 oath was uh i solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that i will well and truly

00:45:10.280 serve our sovereign lady the queen or now the king in the office of constable without

00:45:15.400 favor or affection malice or ill will and i will take to the best of my power cause the peace to

00:45:22.240 be kept and preserved and prevent all offenses against the person and properties of his majesty

00:45:27.540 subjects i'll continue to do that as an office now it's i do solemnly sincerely and affirm that

00:45:34.380 i will well and truly serve the queen not our sovereign lady the queen uh in the office of

00:45:40.360 constable with fairness, integrity, diligence, and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights

00:45:46.560 and according equal respect to all people. So this language is inherently political

00:45:52.620 because it depends on what your view of human rights is and what equal respect to all people

00:46:00.000 means. Right. And what the current human rights acts are that we're following. So this would now

00:46:04.220 mean like the ECHR because that's what we're following. Exactly. And that was inserted into

00:46:08.800 the law. And so it really fundamentally changed how police think, because it changed how their

00:46:14.160 oaths operate. It changes what they've promised to do. And if what they've promised to do is to

00:46:21.020 bring about equity, which is, you know, part of what human rights law is now, well, that's what

00:46:26.840 they're going to do. So they're acting in accordance with their oaths. It's not that they

00:46:29.840 hate you just because they hate you. It's that they're legally mandated to hate you under the

00:46:34.300 current system uh redistribution of uh policing isn't it yes it is that the state will extract

00:46:43.500 wealth and give it away to random people but the police yeah uh and and as the report as the policy

00:46:51.040 paper notes correctly policing is not a human rights advocacy or values delivery function

00:46:55.720 it is the preservation of the peace protection of life and property prevention and detection

00:47:00.160 of offensive apprehension of offenders support to prosecution and impartial enforcement of the law

00:47:05.280 but under existing human rights law that is a violation of human rights because you're not

00:47:12.440 treating people with equity i hate that word so it's it's it's genuinely it is completely in

00:47:20.240 everything and then it goes through the list of changes to the law from the police and justice

00:47:25.440 Act of 2006, the 2014 Anti-Social Behavior Act, which established the College of Policing

00:47:32.660 and how the College of Policing has just become an ideological arm of the state that's more

00:47:39.420 interested in race than in actual crime data.

00:47:45.720 And it explains how, as a result of legislation, consultations with the community, essentially,

00:47:53.700 meaning two-tier policing have become mandatory and part of the job for senior police officers

00:48:01.320 so what the officers are doing is responding to the incentives that are imposed on their superiors

00:48:07.140 and their incentives dictate that they treat different people differently so funny that

00:48:13.040 they keep trying to deny the existence of two-tier policing as well but when it's in code and law

00:48:18.140 everyone can see it and it's in everything that they do and as you say in code and law

00:48:23.700 i mean we see it yeah there's so many examples at this point it's them just going

00:48:28.580 ha no yeah even starmer recently denied it or is it we're doing it's insane yeah and funny enough

00:48:38.220 of course their hiring practices are the same because they have dei in the hiring practice

00:48:41.900 to the point where cheshire police were successfully sued for that which is a rare

00:48:45.400 example of someone actually fighting back yep but they're they're racist in the hiring practice and

00:48:49.840 in the policing yep yep yep uh so it explains that the human rights act of 1998 is going to

00:48:56.620 need to be amended the race relations act even the children's act turned the police into basically

00:49:02.300 part of the part of as this well this goes back to 1965 the race relations one really

00:49:06.740 about the 2000 amendment but it really goes yeah yeah absolutely the equality act the care act

00:49:12.460 like what do the police have to do with mental health it's it's not their job they've become

00:49:17.460 social again it's social workers so basically the social workers have become police and the police

00:49:22.300 have become social workers it's policing for white people it's social work and social care 0.77

00:49:26.620 exactly for ethnics what it should be about was a bloke on the street that in itself is a tarant 0.70

00:49:31.420 if that didn't tell you said hey mate stop that if that didn't tell you he hit you with a big stick 0.83

00:49:34.540 that's policing that's all it had to be and it is that like especially for these groups of people

00:49:41.500 who will randomly form into PACs

00:49:43.420 and attack others.

00:49:45.380 What is going to deter them?

00:49:47.200 The same thing that deters them at home,

00:49:48.900 which is a stick over the head.

00:49:50.300 Like, that's it.

00:49:52.660 And as this made it clear,

00:49:54.480 like what I like about this is that

00:49:55.640 it's not just led to statutory drift,

00:49:58.140 but also to a flow of guidance

00:49:59.580 and codes of ethics

00:50:00.360 that have not been statutory.

00:50:02.020 This has created a context

00:50:03.320 and fear of criticism

00:50:04.160 that has made them effectively compulsory.

00:50:08.380 That's a very strong point.

00:50:10.160 That's a really good point.

00:50:11.500 Because now if you're accused of racism and you're a chief of police, that's it. You don't have a defense. It's over for you. It's over for you.

00:50:22.000 So the political fight that Morgoth explains here, that was won essentially by the race activists, culminated in a bunch of legal changes and in a bunch of changes to the code that governs how police operates that now lead to this two-tier policing.

00:50:41.460 it's so funny this entire ideology it's it's an exercise in a complete lack of self-respect

00:50:48.700 for everything yeah absolutely everything yes why you get like like because a meritocracy as

00:50:55.380 close as you can possibly get to a meritocracy without nepotism and things like that is is

00:51:00.520 respectable yes you're like yeah you are the best of the best brilliant hop on it doesn't matter

00:51:04.840 what you are but hop on brilliant yeah yeah you can do the job and that's it's it's about that

00:51:09.760 self-respecting standards yes all of this nonsense just degrades no DEI hire is going to have pride

00:51:17.180 in his work because deep down he or she knows that they're just a DEI hire yeah the problem

00:51:24.420 with the with with all of this stuff with all of this equity stuff is that it encourages resentment

00:51:30.960 and gives power to resentful people yeah and the more they look like rubbish in how they enforce

00:51:38.300 their their mandate the more resentment builds up the nastier their behavior comes because they

00:51:43.960 don't have an outlet for it yeah yeah they become weirdly smug someone a friend of mine who's still

00:51:48.480 in comedy was saying that he was talking to someone who sort of ticked all the boxes if 0.74

00:51:51.760 you ticked all the boxes in comedy versus a straight white mind you have to be so terrible

00:51:55.540 and still get it given everything and they just said and they and he was saying oh you know it's

00:51:59.740 hard isn't it and they were like is it they even they don't even know what reality is because 0.75

00:52:03.500 they're living in any dei person is just living in it's a fantasy world it's like that bloody

00:52:07.040 rosie jones comedian like they tell everyone like she could barely string a sentence together

00:52:12.020 right but the punch line is her just standing on stage at this point in time yeah and people

00:52:16.080 clapping and laughing like seals but that's like the laughing track and then you look at the

00:52:20.180 audience and they're like really uncomfortable but that is all of this is a joke yeah all of this

00:52:24.900 all of the eyes like this and it but it doesn't tend to lead to humility it tends to lead to a

00:52:29.580 kind of weird nastiness entitlement it's a sense of entitlement from these people because they

00:52:34.200 believe that they're owed it now that they've been told they're owed it if they acted on the

00:52:37.740 basis of humility they would quit knowing that they weren't qualified right they have to justify

00:52:42.520 bringing home the salary they have to justify their position they can't do it in an honest way

00:52:48.960 they therefore have to be smug about that's what equity equity creates entitlement because you're

00:52:54.480 you're you're owed it simply because as opposed to meritocracy which means that you earn it yes

00:52:59.540 I've occasionally met I sort of switched on female comedian who's more aligned with some of us let's say and they'll say like oh yeah at one point I could just show up and I just had to get there and I'd get like a gig you know I just had to the requirements were I had to arrive you know they very rarely I'd hear people talk about like this is ridiculous I know I can just be rubbish but most of them just think they're amazing.

00:53:19.700 Now, there are a couple of problems with this proposal, as far as I'm concerned.

00:53:23.220 The problems include the dedicated police accountability boards.

00:53:27.660 I don't know if that is going to work and if that doesn't risk more quangification.

00:53:35.100 Yeah, that's just a new body, isn't it?

00:53:36.520 This is a new body that is going to have oversight over different police forces and sort of hold their feet to the fire.

00:53:43.960 If that gets ideologically captured, you end up in exactly the same way.

00:53:47.320 Yeah, that's kind of redundant.

00:53:48.520 And if you don't reform all of these acts in full, which is the part for restore, if you don't get rid of these acts in full, you go back to where you started.

00:53:59.300 Right, yeah.

00:53:59.780 So it's good that they mention all of the other ancillary acts that have affected how policing works.

00:54:05.780 But so long as these acts exist on the book, replacing one administrative body with another doesn't change it.

00:54:12.080 Right, because the police are downstream of all.

00:54:13.820 Exactly. And one example of this is His Majesty's Inspectorate for Constableries and Fire Rescue

00:54:22.920 Services. And this one is supposed to be kept under the current proposal. And it's a 160-year-old

00:54:29.460 institution, so you don't want to get rid of it too lightly. But you see an example here,

00:54:34.060 the public sector equality duty, which is enshrined in law. We consider equality and

00:54:38.400 diversity in everything that we do. Why? Because they're mandated by law to do it.

00:54:43.440 I know, but that's sad.

00:54:44.420 It would be genuinely criminal for them not to do it.

00:54:47.500 They're so proud of it as well.

00:54:48.800 So what you need to add there is a deterrent.

00:54:52.460 What you need to add there is that if you include anything other than individuals' equality under the law,

00:54:59.660 that is a crime that is punishable.

00:55:02.380 So you want to use their tactics against them and come down on this stuff much, much harder.

00:55:09.140 You want to make sure in future proposals

00:55:11.800 that if you say race is a factor in your decision-making,

00:55:15.620 you're gone. 0.99

00:55:16.180 Yeah, you're racist. 0.96

00:55:16.840 Other than favoring the natives in their own country.

00:55:20.020 Like, which requires you essentially 0.96

00:55:23.060 to create two tiers of citizenship.

00:55:24.940 And this is the conversation

00:55:26.360 that everybody's trying to avoid.

00:55:28.400 That not all pieces of paper are equal.

00:55:30.340 Yeah, that's what every other country does intrinsically

00:55:34.420 without thinking about it.

00:55:36.000 They don't have to have a conversation.

00:55:36.920 you go to like

00:55:38.600 if I go to Japan

00:55:40.000 for instance

00:55:40.520 and there's a big fight

00:55:41.360 me and some Japanese people 1.00

00:55:42.820 not like I ever would 1.00

00:55:43.460 I like Japanese people 1.00

00:55:44.720 if I ever had a fight

00:55:46.100 with Japanese people 1.00

00:55:46.800 the police would absolutely 1.00

00:55:47.700 go down on me

00:55:48.540 even if they started it

00:55:50.060 well not anymore 0.96

00:55:50.980 Japan is being infected

00:55:52.120 quite badly

00:55:52.720 and quite quickly

00:55:53.360 okay all right

00:55:53.840 bad example

00:55:54.560 yes yes

00:55:55.580 it's happening everywhere

00:55:56.820 which confirms

00:55:57.700 that it's a

00:55:58.300 global movement

00:55:59.800 and they set out

00:56:01.100 a bunch of very

00:56:02.020 solid strategic objectives

00:56:03.640 as to how

00:56:05.000 and a process

00:56:06.400 for achieving them and a timeline for achieving them it isn't costed which is you know you have

00:56:11.240 to look at the cost if you're going to be in government which is a problem uh but aside from

00:56:16.040 that i found this to be pretty good i found this to be pretty good uh and the alternative to what's

00:56:24.420 to this kind of policy is what labor is doing now which is endlessly releasing criminals

00:56:31.200 Ah, yeah.

00:56:32.000 Well, there's that Rochdale gang leader, isn't he?

00:56:34.320 Yes.

00:56:34.840 And he can't be deported, apparently, because there's a loophole.

00:56:37.660 We'll close the loophole and deport it.

00:56:39.220 That's a separate act for him.

00:56:40.620 You're acting like your hands are tied.

00:56:41.940 Make it with the government.

00:56:42.920 Exactly.

00:56:43.500 Do it.

00:56:44.160 Yeah, I said the other day, I think it was in relation to the homeless thing,

00:56:47.340 where they're going to not be allowed to tell homeless people to move on.

00:56:49.600 So you don't have tent city.

00:56:50.560 I said the government is operating according to one simple heuristic.

00:56:53.560 What would the joker do?

00:56:55.000 That's why.

00:56:55.320 They intentionally abolished the vagrants, Hank.

00:56:59.760 That's what I'm saying.

00:57:00.260 It's like maximum chaos in Gotham

00:57:03.440 Immediately after that happened 1.00

00:57:05.480 A local council gave a native

00:57:08.180 A tent that was homeless

00:57:09.900 They were just sleeping in that tent love

00:57:11.440 Don't you remember the popping champagne

00:57:13.500 When Keir Starmer let everyone out

00:57:14.980 To put in normal people

00:57:16.460 This is pure Gotham

00:57:19.060 Yes, completely 1.00

00:57:19.920 Disgusting 0.98

00:57:21.840 And they're not supporting the probation services 1.00

00:57:25.520 They're releasing rapists

00:57:27.060 And child rapists and groomers early 0.73

00:57:29.740 they are just destroying people's lives with this they're openly saying that they're going 0.98

00:57:36.120 to be releasing rape gang members and they have zero shame about it and the condition of the

00:57:43.400 prisons is so atrocious that the prisoners aren't ashamed of putting up on social media

00:57:50.120 videos that show them having phones so restore presented a good policy but the depth of the

00:57:58.960 problem is insane and it's in the legislation and it's in the prisons and it's the probation

00:58:04.560 services and it's the number of beds available in prisons and it's the absence of deportations and

00:58:10.800 it's this is insane the police are legally mandated to hate you and to treat you as a

00:58:18.640 colonized subject in favor of foreigners and this isn't going to change under labor

00:58:24.120 and the conservatives haven't put anything forward that will show how to change this

00:58:28.840 restore have done a very decent effort they're the only ones as far as i know

00:58:32.540 but this is i can't express how extreme the situation is without risking being arrested

00:58:39.580 let's just leave it there which explains the situation even more which explains the situation

00:58:43.800 even more uh and remember don't share that post because you know the police in birmingham says 0.99

00:58:50.760 you shouldn't right anyway the hapsification says an indigeneity act will have to be made

00:58:59.540 with the right to recognize the indigenous over their homeland and the right to have demographic

00:59:03.620 security 90 percent bare minimum yeah i agree that's a random name my buddy's girlfriend is 0.99

00:59:08.860 a cop here in montreal she's a very nice person but she's five foot five

00:59:12.660 yeah okay good luck i see the rest of the comment but i won't read that

00:59:19.000 Chrissy has a point

00:59:21.800 but I will not read that

00:59:23.280 and Based Ape says

00:59:25.540 someone stole my dog last year

00:59:27.060 his license plate was on CCTV

00:59:28.520 I spent three days

00:59:30.320 calling up the police

00:59:31.080 to try to get them

00:59:31.720 to just go look at the CCTV

00:59:33.060 they refused

00:59:34.040 got him back

00:59:35.300 after being extorted

00:59:36.440 outrageous

00:59:37.520 yeah

00:59:40.720 yeah

00:59:41.780 moving on

00:59:42.420 there's a bunch of other

00:59:43.240 good comments

00:59:43.820 which can or cannot be read

00:59:45.900 and so I'll

00:59:46.860 I'll leave it there for now

00:59:47.820 oops

00:59:48.860 all right

00:59:49.820 uh

00:59:51.720 okay

00:59:52.180 all right

00:59:53.920 so

00:59:54.420 I thought my section

00:59:55.580 was going to be fairly heavy

00:59:56.400 but it's the lightest

00:59:57.380 of the day actually

00:59:58.120 so

00:59:59.620 you're all the comedian

01:00:00.640 some light

01:00:01.200 yes

01:00:01.580 retired

01:00:02.200 so the light relief

01:00:03.560 um

01:00:04.120 is

01:00:04.780 they played my comedy

01:00:05.980 in a lads hour

01:00:06.420 and everyone was laughing

01:00:07.040 so I was amazed

01:00:07.760 how good it was

01:00:08.220 but um

01:00:08.920 I'd forgotten

01:00:09.780 anyway it's a whole other story

01:00:11.460 I'm now forced to talk

01:00:13.240 about this kind of thing

01:00:13.960 don't forget

01:00:14.120 we have a lads hour

01:00:15.080 in an hour

01:00:16.640 yes

01:00:17.100 so please do join us

01:00:18.180 so let's

01:00:18.680 smash through this. So this is Andy Burnham and Nigel Farage. Andy Burnham is the new Farage,

01:00:23.760 is my controversial claim, because they're both operating in the post-liberal paradigm. Not

01:00:28.540 according to me, according to the very smart Aris Rusanos, who wrote his...

01:00:32.400 He's really very smart and very nice.

01:00:33.700 Exactly. So therefore, I defer to him on this very interesting idea that actually

01:00:37.800 what we have is a new frame in politics where Burnham is forced to act in the post-liberal frame

01:00:43.380 with the big caveat, can he address immigration? And so the claim here is really he and Farage

01:00:48.520 are fighting on similar economic grounds, similar broad principles, except with immigration because

01:00:53.420 the Labour backbench are mental and will never allow it to be fixed, possibly. So he starts off

01:00:58.880 by saying the years of permanent crisis have spurred a rapid evolution of our politics with

01:01:04.740 the country caught between the electorate's desire for total change and Westminster's

01:01:08.780 inability to undertake reform. So we've all noticed that. That's what Dominic Cummings

01:01:13.100 always talks about this is a new kind of mouse this one that's where we are um so he says to

01:01:18.880 say the country is ungovernable was seen as exaggerated contrarianism only two years ago

01:01:22.760 now it's commonplace consensus of the liberal center you may have heard for example matthew

01:01:27.520 say he'd say the other day starmer was a decent man with an ungovernable country this is a new

01:01:31.700 cliche but this is just term is not a decent man no no i pointed out stop that i wrote an article

01:01:37.620 called an indecent man yeah saeed awful human being he didn't mention uh winter fuel he didn't

01:01:42.940 mention Southport, he didn't mention Mandelson, there's loads of things. He didn't mention Lord

01:01:46.980 Ali giving him his clothes and his house to live in. Yeah. Those weird backdoor antics.

01:01:55.680 Yeah, so what was, it was, it's now a normal thing to say that we're ungovernable and two

01:02:02.980 years ago, so now it's the commonplace consensus of the Liberal Centre waving away its own

01:02:06.520 unpopularity as a product of an irrational political climate. So they're able to say,

01:02:10.360 oh it's just they're ungovernable it's not us they're just oh it's your fault right yeah it's

01:02:14.320 your fault for getting stabbed and the police arresting you for being stabbed yeah yeah okay

01:02:17.980 winning another example was lisa nandy just going off uh you know cultural secretary going off x

01:02:23.360 saying um i'm leaving because of all the misinformation this place is no good for our

01:02:27.500 democracy and our communities i'm like okay i don't want to speak to you that that's it yeah

01:02:33.220 exactly so democrat i'm an mp i don't want to speak to you and our communities means i can't

01:02:38.440 to stay in my narrative about our precious anointed groups when the reality is on x that's

01:02:42.580 what it means so yes she's retreating off x it's the fingers and the ears la la la not listening

01:02:47.920 yeah and that's what they're doubling down on but it's a big problem for them so winning an

01:02:51.160 election even by a landslide is now no guarantee against total and instant rejection by a british

01:02:55.860 public that has never before been in such volatile and revolutionary mood but that's hard i mean

01:03:00.200 that's obvious but that's because we we've consistently voted against things and you've

01:03:04.960 consistently done the opposite so what do you expect exactly first sign of betrayal people are

01:03:10.580 up in arms like yeah i'm done with this now yes and he talks about how it could have been dealt

01:03:13.920 with uh in brexit but because that wasn't dealt with that was an early warning sign of like or

01:03:19.940 fairly late warning sign now it's even later it's like okay you're not going to listen to us it's

01:03:23.580 going to get even worse so that's where we are if if they keep ignoring us it's only going to get

01:03:28.040 worse and he quotes here from the productive state which is he's essentially seeing as the

01:03:32.720 Burnham Manifesto. They wrote this thing, The Productive State. It's a sort of left-wing economic

01:03:37.540 Manchesterism thing. A lot of it's based on this guy, Polanyi, is it? Karl Polanyi? He's a guy

01:03:44.340 that came up, he's a guy who basically talked about the social impact on markets. And it's a

01:03:50.940 certain lefty economic theory. It's not that dissimilar to someone like John Gray. It's

01:03:54.420 basically saying that you get the free market, but then people push back against the excesses

01:03:58.900 of that because they say, well, what about we need to help people out and so on. And the way

01:04:03.340 people interact is not actually a result of just a free market. So it's a kind of free market

01:04:07.680 skeptical lefty manifesto. I just want to point out that the original skeptics against the free

01:04:13.640 market were the actual conservatives who always understood that money influences power and that

01:04:20.520 therefore you need to be able to constrain the oligarchs and stop them from going absolutely

01:04:26.540 insane which they tend to do so this is casting of this as a leftist case no no this is the left

01:04:33.740 once again reinventing things that have always been known yeah no you're right to make that

01:04:38.620 distinction because that's really what he's also saying in this piece that farage and burnham are

01:04:42.560 therefore on similar economic territory but it's on other issues like immigration where they they

01:04:47.180 differ so you know i can't necessarily find in here i was going to read it from here he's talking

01:04:51.240 about the productive state this manifesto he says as it states the public asks now for only what is

01:04:56.080 obvious major even fundamental changes in british society to cast off the meanness and frustration

01:05:00.900 of long years of stagnation and decline which aris calls unabashedly adopting a declineist

01:05:06.500 framework still mocked as a right-wing fantasy by backward-looking elements of the labor left

01:05:10.300 so he's saying that it's here that they're adopting in this manifesto the language of

01:05:15.880 decline which has always been which has been the right you know reform saying britain's broken

01:05:19.580 then other politicians have to say no it's not broken like labor had to say and then kemi's like

01:05:23.660 it's a bit broken everyone's like arguing about how broken it is um and it's Kemi's quite

01:05:28.720 interesting in this actually because where the toys are different is it does seem like

01:05:31.720 reformer more populist still trying to get the red wall Burnham's going populist is really the

01:05:37.560 claim here Kemi's sort of going more still thatch right as far as I can see I think she's more like

01:05:42.000 let's fix the economy and get growth I don't think she knows what she is man I don't think 0.53

01:05:45.100 she cares what she is I think she's just she's quite strong on net zero now and she's quite strong 0.68

01:05:50.500 on economy she's not so good on identity because she's a creature of the times always when dei was

01:05:58.360 popular and was widely adopted by by the conservative party she was all for it and she

01:06:03.600 was a creature of it and now that it isn't popular she's railing against it so the the the idea of

01:06:10.900 like she was a little ahead to be very fair on things like trans thing and things like black

01:06:15.580 lives matter despite what yeah that's because she's african like the trans thing is because 0.95

01:06:19.600 she's african and you can't get that stuff past them because it's obviously nonsense and only 0.96

01:06:23.860 somebody who's deeply brain damaged would believe it and the rest of it she gets a certain license 0.84

01:06:30.000 i noticed this as a foreigner i have permission to say things that other people don't have

01:06:33.740 permission to say that's true yeah which is insane yeah that's definitely a thing um so the paper

01:06:40.980 notes labor have hitherto not delivered on that demand if that feeling does not change the electoral

01:06:45.140 consequences will be severe and lasting but the thing is they're focused in the wrong direction

01:06:51.120 they're talking so they're saying um it's the meanness and frustration of long years of

01:06:57.160 stagnation and decline austerity those things would be actually palpably acceptable if we had

01:07:04.060 a high trust nice society that we lived in like those things are actually you know significantly

01:07:10.740 more palatable to the average person as long as they're not also surrounded by degenerates 0.97

01:07:17.420 uh crime out the wazoo random foreigners that all this stuff you know i i would trade 0.69

01:07:25.460 prosperity for a safe society what you're trying to say is that your ancestors actually did survive 0.55

01:07:33.180 famines yeah without civilization breaking down yeah without the people becoming ungovernable

01:07:38.040 The thing is, everyone's manifesto, and everyone now as well, probably because of free markets to a certain degree, treats a country like a publicly traded company.

01:07:50.780 Yes.

01:07:51.040 And it has to constantly achieve more and more and more and more, year on year and year and year.

01:07:55.220 And it's like, that's the worst way to look at a country.

01:07:59.440 It completely removes the cultural, civilizational aspect and the uniqueness of it because it just looks at them all on this same scale.

01:08:07.600 No, no, no, no, GDP must go up.

01:08:10.000 And that's why that, it's awful.

01:08:12.100 Yes.

01:08:12.380 Completely destroys countries.

01:08:15.280 Yeah, all right. 1.00

01:08:16.500 We'll get on to the immigration stuff. 1.00

01:08:17.860 He goes on, that much is true yet. 0.99

01:08:19.120 What is perhaps more interesting

01:08:20.020 than the structural economic reforms,

01:08:21.660 the paper suggests,

01:08:22.300 is that its writers frame their socialist ends

01:08:24.200 in post-liberal terms,

01:08:25.640 quoting Polanyi in appealing to national sovereignty

01:08:28.060 and state resilience

01:08:29.040 to make arguments post-liberals were condemned for

01:08:31.580 a decade ago.

01:08:33.080 That is interesting.

01:08:34.040 Yeah, and that's the kind of thing

01:08:34.840 you could see the SDP or someone going in for,

01:08:36.580 national sovereignty and state resilience on things like strategic resources like steel

01:08:41.040 yeah there could be a crossover for sure yeah um and they what else does he say uh

01:08:47.600 national sovereignty where's this bit national sovereignty oh here we go state capacity

01:08:52.920 and resilience in a world of global competition rather than cooperation in which westminster

01:08:57.900 failure wears down the basic democratic expectation that public institutions can identify

01:09:01.680 the needs of the public they govern and act to meet them um so where is this eroding the state's

01:09:07.840 legitimacy these are lexiteer arguments of a decade ago now championed perhaps too late by

01:09:12.100 those who would in 2016 have scorned them so this is his point now you're catching up with brexit

01:09:16.280 because you tried to thwart it and now it's inevitable that you you accept its logic really

01:09:20.500 in terms of having a country and uh and vindicated once again yeah in economic so in economic terms

01:09:28.820 there's very little in the productive state's condemnation of neoliberalism as the agent of

01:09:33.660 national decline that could not be said or has not already been said by reformist planner-in-chief

01:09:37.820 and prominent post-liberal intellectual Danny Kruger. So he's saying it's very similar to that.

01:09:42.500 And of course, Burnham is going around saying we've had too much neoliberalism. Now, some people

01:09:46.440 think when he says it, he just means that's true and that's right economics. But it's interesting,

01:09:49.940 that's a phrase he's picked up on. You wouldn't hear Starmer doing that because he was very much

01:09:53.420 a creature of the neoliberals. You could say Burnham in reality will be because he'll be forced

01:09:58.120 to be because there isn't anything else on the table, but he's certainly at least ostensibly

01:10:01.700 claiming not to be, and so is sounding like Kruger, interestingly enough. And then he says

01:10:08.180 there's such an overlap between the productive state and post-liberal arguments that there's

01:10:12.360 such an overlap. It's hardly surprising given British post-liberalism's intellectual descent

01:10:16.620 from socialism. Even still, it's of note that Burnham's only open challenger so far is the

01:10:20.780 blue Labour-endorsed candidate, Al Kahn, standing on a platform of industrial renewal through

01:10:25.000 sensible energy policy in the service of national security i mean it's virtually you almost can't

01:10:29.660 avoid that with our energy bills and with the various wars it's almost you have to almost take

01:10:34.500 that stance now yes we need to fix energy we need to you know goes to show that governments only do

01:10:39.600 what they have to do right but will he drill baby drill we don't even know if burnham will drill but

01:10:44.100 he pretty much has to do something with the north sea even if farage has shied away recently from

01:10:48.540 his tentative support of nationalism for key infrastructure post-liberalism already appears

01:10:53.000 to dominate the economic argument ahead of the next election. So it's quite an interesting claim.

01:10:57.580 But the arguments for national sovereignty, domestic re-industrialization, energy security,

01:11:01.300 and a strengthened state have been won by the deteriorating security environment rather than

01:11:05.740 the esoteric pronouncements of post-liberal commentators. So he's basically saying it's

01:11:09.080 got so bad, it's just, as you say, forced them into this position. They haven't arrived at it

01:11:13.240 from a sort of intellectual first principles. Both the former Thatcherite Farage and the Labour

01:11:18.840 a soft left now converge on them for the credibility to advance their own projects. Reforms the use

01:11:24.720 of publicly threatens the prime beneficiary of actually existing British neoliberalism,

01:11:29.060 the outsourcing giant Serco. So here's a pop at Serco. And then Aris says that Jonathan Hinder,

01:11:34.560 who's the only sane Labour MP, has said put cheap energy before clean energy, drill for our own oil

01:11:39.940 and gas in the North Sea, back British industry by scrapping self-harming net zero policies,

01:11:44.580 seriously start to rebalance our economy away from London, stop the boats. I mean, the London

01:11:48.380 one can be a bit silly but all those are pretty solid i mean i'm not i don't i'm not that bothered

01:11:53.220 about putting number 10 in manchester but the rest of them make sense number 10 in manchester

01:11:57.080 is just uh a stunt patronage no no not even it's it's it's patronage right that's that's all that

01:12:02.900 is it's corruption it's corruption under another name yeah that's what it is but he won't end up

01:12:07.520 as jacob reese mog was pointing out he has to be in london so much as pm he won't even end up there

01:12:11.660 very much at all anyway even if it happens um for we live now in the unmanaged post-liberal order

01:12:17.780 brought about by liberal hubris a decade ago brexit offered westminster the breathing space

01:12:22.060 to break with liberal nostrums in a controlled and sober way listening and acceding to the

01:12:27.560 democratically expressed demands of the electorate instead the brexit vote was treated as the

01:12:31.400 mindless revolt of unlettered proles manipulated by social media algorithms and a malign network

01:12:36.620 of populist demagogues nice bit of writing sums it up doesn't it yeah that is what they did they

01:12:41.540 completely ignored that and now it's all hitting the fan um again too late the very same commentators

01:12:48.420 who only a year ago mocked the inter-ethnic violence predicted to result from mass immigration

01:12:52.340 as a product of right-wing fever dreams introducing the nightmare prospect of hardened borders now

01:12:57.400 panickingly declare and here he quotes a new statesman article that we cannot simply dismiss

01:13:02.080 the violence as just another outburst of a hardened racist few because to do so would seem to leave us

01:13:07.040 destined to regular summer bouts of pogromist violence so if you look at the piece basically

01:13:13.480 this is the left left must be honest about immigration by john merrick but what he does

01:13:17.180 he goes on to say that this although they've got to address the boats this must be done humanely

01:13:22.420 it must be allied to a humanist politics of what paul gilroy has called conviviality

01:13:26.940 the recognition that britain is as it actually exists as a multi-ethnic and post-imperial polity 0.70

01:13:32.500 is for the most part a well-functioning and integrated society non-white brits are our

01:13:36.640 family neighbors friends carers maintaining that requires an honest conversation about immigration

01:13:40.840 in britain one that can counter the absurdity of the false narratives of white replacement

01:13:44.340 in this the stakes are high if we cannot get this right the ever hardening right

01:13:47.500 will capitalize that should scare us all so essentially they're saying oh if we don't do

01:13:52.320 something there'll be more of these riots but we don't really understand or like what they're

01:13:56.680 saying but we've got to do something even the left saying we don't want more riots on the streets 0.60

01:14:00.740 france and red meat basically but they can't see any other reason really for stopping the

01:14:04.340 the uh the boats they just go that okay this is this looks bad i mean it really is we have to do

01:14:12.940 something about the pros being unhappy yes well finally we have to do something about the pro

01:14:17.100 we've been you know pissing on them from great height forever but now it's really getting bad

01:14:23.660 yeah because as as he quotes the article then the priority must be sorry and the priority must be 0.74

01:14:28.560 to preserve the philosophically incoherent multicultural experiment because really

01:14:33.460 there's no other alternative yes but the only alternative is nazi germany but doing some things

01:14:37.320 at the edges to stop every summer getting violent as iris says this crisis apparently no longer a

01:14:41.920 hard-right fancy though through gritted teeth which it very much is the writer comes to the

01:14:45.480 conclusion presented as novel that the sight of unvetted young men landing on the beaches of

01:14:49.260 kent and sussex is such a glaring signal of state failure that something must be done to stop it

01:14:53.320 so they're like whoops we've got cameras yeah that's one way that's what barring and police

01:14:59.440 ones yeah so so this is where we are now now the question is can burnham actually address this um

01:15:08.000 i'm just going to skip a little bit that's the thing because he's got this big problem of

01:15:12.740 he's in the labor party so he's an ideologue so no we know what his ideology is no he won't

01:15:18.420 address any of this yeah just any of this at all and the thing is because he started to do loads

01:15:23.140 of little videos isn't he seen his little videos on on uh twitter and it's one of his most recent

01:15:28.460 ones was like people have had enough you know that they're losing faith and i just replied to

01:15:33.040 i was like yeah so they're losing losing faith in democracy so they say labor labor party

01:15:38.180 parachuted in you and to be an unelected leader of the people to do exactly the same stuff like

01:15:44.320 what are we doing yeah actual clown show we know what he's we know what he's about uh we know his 0.98

01:15:50.300 climate change ideologue he's a race ideologue he's uh very corrupt from what i'm hearing about 0.96

01:15:57.380 the stuff that was going on in Rochester.

01:15:58.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:59.460 You don't have to look at that Piccadilly Gardens as well

01:16:01.700 to know that he's going to be terrible at country large.

01:16:05.440 It's going to be atrocious.

01:16:06.580 This is where you get onto the battle

01:16:07.560 between reform and Burnham.

01:16:09.680 So who's going to win that?

01:16:11.480 How do they stop him?

01:16:12.180 So he points out here,

01:16:13.520 running a prominent national populist intellectual

01:16:15.300 failed in Gorton and Denton, meaning Matt Goodwin,

01:16:17.440 but so did running a no-nonsense local plumber

01:16:19.560 in Makerfield, Rob Kenyon,

01:16:21.460 where a strategic section of the Red Wall

01:16:22.840 has been found electorally wanting.

01:16:25.160 So it's what do they do?

01:16:26.040 should reform now leap into its end-of-the-peer ITV1 red wall aesthetic or attempt to woo the

01:16:30.320 middle classes, among whom it's rapidly become the default party of the right? And he says that

01:16:33.920 Farage writing on Substack suggests maybe he's doing the latter. But this is where it gets

01:16:39.180 interesting. Here on the once perilous ground of immigration is the obvious dividing line at the

01:16:42.540 next election between parties with otherwise converging economic worldviews. As Burnham's

01:16:46.800 first headache, the spat between his future ministers over indefinite leave to remain

01:16:50.440 reforms, shows immigration as a source of internal conflict within Labour, caught between an

01:16:55.260 awareness of the public will and its own internal morality. And that's going to be its constant

01:16:59.960 problem because on welfare, they don't want to do anything, even though we need the money for

01:17:03.520 defence. On immigration, they don't want to do anything. There was rumours have been watering

01:17:07.560 down. Mahmoud's indefinitely leave to remain. She then came out with this refugee thing that's also

01:17:12.080 a bit weak. They have 30 safe seats, I believe, that have Muslims as over 30% of the voting bloc.

01:17:21.140 That is a massive constraint.

01:17:23.300 These 30 seats are a massive constraint at a time like this

01:17:26.240 where they're holding onto their seats by the skin of their teeth.

01:17:28.820 So if they do anything on ILR, they lose these seats.

01:17:33.380 Would they be brave enough to calculate, 0.92

01:17:35.180 yes, we're going to give these 30 seats to Gaza Independence 0.95

01:17:37.500 and the Greens and other assorted lunatics 0.76

01:17:39.300 and go for the white classes, middle class and working class, 0.88

01:17:43.920 or will they simply surrender to their own internal dynamics?

01:17:48.840 my bet is they're going to surrender

01:17:50.520 on their own internal dynamics

01:17:51.780 because people like Lisa Nandy

01:17:53.020 and a bunch of others,

01:17:55.140 they're not going to be there for Andy Burnham

01:17:57.680 if he goes in support of Shabana Mahmoud, ironically.

01:18:03.540 And if you look at the Muslim Facebook groups

01:18:05.260 and how they talk about Shabana Mahmoud,

01:18:07.320 they hate her with a vengeance

01:18:08.920 for daring to suggest that ILR should be limited

01:18:12.240 even while opening the gates 1.00

01:18:13.820 to endless refugees

01:18:15.440 through the new scheme that she's announced. 1.00

01:18:17.860 So this is a very existential problem for Labour,

01:18:22.640 and they don't have an answer to it.

01:18:24.320 Right, and we haven't heard anything really from Burnham about immigration.

01:18:26.940 We've heard about money in your pocket, holidays, moving stuff to Manchester.

01:18:30.960 Yes, he's terrified still.

01:18:32.540 And so, yeah, the only thing there's a little bit of evidence

01:18:34.600 he's going to try and do with getting the neats back into work

01:18:37.460 is to be a bit tougher on the Labour backbench over welfare.

01:18:41.200 But let's see if he even manages that.

01:18:42.780 But on immigration, it sounds like he's going to capitulate immediately.

01:18:46.100 and this is where reform come in and other parties and if he does it's over for him before it even

01:18:50.840 starts yeah like if he does it that's it where does he say uh to win where does it say to win

01:18:58.380 over his party i had a second ago um so to win over his party burn and may as he has hinted

01:19:03.680 be inclined to abandon starmer and mamood's ilr reforms intended to quietly disperse what even the

01:19:09.660 bbc now calls the boris wave yet as a clear-eyed blue labor and adjacent commentators like labor

01:19:14.800 realists observe, the Labour Party cannot transfer

01:19:16.880 the cost of a Conservative mistake on

01:19:18.840 immigration policy onto the British people and

01:19:20.880 win the next election. It's simply in reform's 0.66

01:19:23.100 greatest interest for the Boris wave to become, as

01:19:24.920 soon as possible, in the public's eyes, the Burnham

01:19:26.780 wave. Yes. So, yeah.

01:19:28.960 If he doesn't tackle immigration... And the thing is, it's because

01:19:30.840 it's a religious article for them, which he mentions 0.84

01:19:32.840 in this, they can't do anything because everything's become

01:19:34.840 religious for them. Aircon's religious to these people.

01:19:36.960 Immigration's religious to these people. 0.67

01:19:39.700 Aircon's religious to these people. 0.68

01:19:41.680 Brilliant. Brilliant.

01:19:43.240 It's true, isn't it? It's absolutely...

01:19:44.680 And he said that he only pretends to be a comedian.

01:19:47.700 I couldn't say that.

01:19:49.620 Retired, but I've still got it.

01:19:52.620 So, yeah, I don't know how much time we've got,

01:19:54.920 but basically, he says,

01:19:56.840 the logic for reform in the coming election,

01:19:58.780 which we may not expect at any date

01:20:00.140 from Burnham's formal coronation,

01:20:01.820 is therefore to go further and harder on immigration

01:20:04.000 than would have been imaginable even two years ago.

01:20:06.340 There's little ground on which Burnham can fight

01:20:07.940 on housing, on the NHS, on crime,

01:20:10.240 and I would add on air con,

01:20:11.420 in which his party's near religious sympathy

01:20:13.120 for mass immigration has not poisoned the well.

01:20:15.900 I suppose the aircon is not related to immigration,

01:20:17.480 but it is related to their mad religious zeal.

01:20:19.260 I don't think Farage can.

01:20:21.560 I don't think reform can.

01:20:23.280 Because Farage isn't...

01:20:25.620 He doesn't have the conviction on immigration.

01:20:28.900 Don't underestimate his cynicism.

01:20:30.680 You see him going a bit further, don't you,

01:20:31.980 in his sub-stack saying white people are now...

01:20:34.660 Don't underestimate his cynicism. 0.98

01:20:37.220 He could do it if he had to.

01:20:39.480 Yeah, but I know he's got...

01:20:41.220 element and say to kevin pedonog you're just an anchor baby you're not going to be no i don't

01:20:45.740 think he'd ever do that and win no because fundamentally farage is i'm not saying he

01:20:50.800 will believe it i'm saying he could do it farage has an overriding desire to be well liked yes

01:20:57.720 that's a yes but farage is saying when that switches to doing those things then he can do

01:21:02.960 them he also has a history of just abandoning stuff yeah i just i don't know i just i don't

01:21:07.260 I don't know.

01:21:08.280 I'm not for a moment suggesting that you should trust the plan.

01:21:11.860 I'm not for a moment suggesting that, just to be clear.

01:21:14.680 Just to be clear.

01:21:15.520 Yeah, Fries is saying if this appeal to his cynicism becomes sufficient,

01:21:19.260 he'll change his mind.

01:21:20.440 I get it.

01:21:21.140 Every new social housing development burden promises can and will be presented 0.99

01:21:24.120 as a source of local danger. 1.00

01:21:25.480 The future of British politics long delayed is finally upon us. 0.98

01:21:28.160 And there, Aris is saying, look, every issue is an immigration issue.

01:21:30.880 And the fact that they can't solve that, underneath it is housing.

01:21:33.440 Of course, housing is supplying the man.

01:21:34.740 if you don't sort that one half of that you're done everything is immigration because it underpins

01:21:40.380 almost every issue services jobs yeah like the needs for instance yeah yeah yeah everything

01:21:44.620 literally everything even roads i mean even driving here today roads are atrocious yeah why

01:21:49.080 well because too many people crime women's rights everything for labor there'll never be a better

01:21:53.360 time for election than now but for reform the attractions are less clear the party's declarations

01:21:56.860 of the urgency of new elections they're not fully convinced given its recent electoral setbacks

01:22:00.600 and still nebulous program for government.

01:22:02.780 I think that's fair.

01:22:03.660 Yet for both, the calculation will be the same.

01:22:05.940 The longer the country has to experience

01:22:07.120 the operation of a Labour government,

01:22:08.520 the more attractive a barrage in reformation will seem.

01:22:11.020 That's funny that even for Labour,

01:22:12.440 it's like, let's call the election

01:22:14.040 before they've seen what we're like.

01:22:15.620 Burnham's at the peak of his popularity right now

01:22:17.300 and it's only going to go down.

01:22:18.320 He is at the peak, he is at the peak.

01:22:19.520 It's only, yep.

01:22:20.340 Six months, man.

01:22:21.200 Six months, he'll be hasty.

01:22:22.700 Oh yeah.

01:22:23.380 With both parties, just to end,

01:22:25.380 deploying the dysfunctional brokenness

01:22:27.180 of Westminster politics,

01:22:28.120 victory will come to whoever can more commissioningly capture

01:22:30.280 the revolutionary mood burnham wants a decade to complete his project but so did starma like the

01:22:35.000 violent storms attending starma's downfall britain's decade-long suffocating political

01:22:39.080 climate now seems ready for dramatic resolution clearing the air for years to come the heavens

01:22:43.420 are opening up over westminster even in his manchester fiefdom burnham is unlikely to escape

01:22:47.780 the flood well this is the this is the no the lesson of noah's ark right nobody escapes the

01:22:53.060 flood you might as well build an ark so you might as well give up everything save as much of life

01:22:58.760 as you can and accept that you're going to be on an ark stranded until god places you wherever

01:23:03.820 that's that's the lesson of getting of noah's ark it is getting the good thing is after noah's

01:23:07.980 ark the death penalty was suggested when you know spill the just when he said what is it after

01:23:13.320 the came the idea of a man spills another man's but his blood shall be spilled that comes at the

01:23:18.580 end of noah's ark doesn't it well it all you could argue for i'm just saying maybe we'll get a death

01:23:23.980 penalty after the ark i don't know well i'm i'm definitely i want to see what the rainbow is we

01:23:28.380 definitely need the rainbow um the rainbow is not multiculturalism and it's not tolerance right

01:23:33.940 the new rainbow the new rainbow is intolerant right um all right so we got i think that might

01:23:40.000 be a good sort of uh rainbow symbolized merch idea every other ethnicity again from one land

01:23:45.800 to another no no no we could go start selling a rainbow flag that says intolerance yeah that's

01:23:52.800 what i mean yeah should be i mean it was the covenant god said right i won't flood you again

01:23:56.940 So it should be

01:23:58.020 What it should be

01:23:58.540 Is Westminster

01:23:59.180 And the neoliberal

01:24:00.100 Unipartist covenant

01:24:01.060 To not do all the stuff

01:24:02.020 They've done again

01:24:02.640 Should be the covenant

01:24:03.760 We're not going to do

01:24:04.360 Any of this again

01:24:04.680 We're never going to 1.00

01:24:05.520 Open the doors to immigration 1.00

01:24:06.540 Ever again 1.00

01:24:07.140 Every single citizenship 1.00

01:24:08.660 Will require a separate 1.00

01:24:09.780 Act of parliament

01:24:10.460 Right

01:24:10.980 That's what it should be

01:24:12.500 That would be fair

01:24:13.380 So that is my opinion

01:24:15.060 There was a

01:24:15.760 Leo Strauss act of parliament

01:24:17.420 That made him a citizen

01:24:18.380 Really? 0.98

01:24:19.560 I think it was Strauss

01:24:21.060 Was one of the big composers

01:24:23.200 I think it was Strauss

01:24:24.360 There was a specific

01:24:25.220 Act of parliament

01:24:25.940 Giving him citizenship

01:24:26.860 okay so we can do it by taste by case it was right right it was so rare that it

01:24:31.720 what are the great do the fair ass act and just you that's you well i'd be grateful uh i don't

01:24:37.560 have high expectations but i'd be grateful um anyway let's go for the video comments samson

01:24:44.940 an anecdote for the job market segment i work in video games was recently hit by a non-specific

01:24:51.820 mass layoff later my exact position reopened and even though half the marketing material for a

01:24:56.580 title we ship contains my hero assets, the HR lady told me I was unqualified. So I started looking

01:25:02.260 elsewhere. I applied to the local tire shop just to do oil changes. And I rolled up in a Rolls Royce

01:25:06.740 that I restored with pictures of my race motor. And they told me to beat it because I wasn't Red

01:25:11.260 Seal certified. Ultimately, me and a buddy decided to get a company off the ground and sought out

01:25:15.100 eager investors, which we found quite readily. And talks are going well. Just for a laugh,

01:25:19.220 we both applied to Tim Hortons. I'm a senior and he has lead credits. We both got rejected.

01:25:23.780 amazing wow that is in let me just get this straight that you're starting an auto company

01:25:30.400 okay join us on the next gold tier we we want to hear from you and what you're what you're doing

01:25:36.360 so impressed by people who can make stuff i do not have that gene i'm just genuinely impressed

01:25:40.160 by it i'm hoping my son will be like that yeah it's a good thing to me and you make money these

01:25:44.980 days for a while so i'm gonna make a count so in the past month and the quarter i know you guys

01:25:51.660 been busy, but there's been some major

01:25:53.580 news in America. One,

01:25:56.980 a bunch of

01:25:57.500 libertarian Republicans,

01:25:59.660 you know, Gardner, squirt us over again.

01:26:02.740 So Trump's doing

01:26:03.700 a purge of them, and Trump

01:26:05.080 almost got killed three times, so that was fun.

01:26:08.520 Then

01:26:08.820 communism got investigated. He's getting

01:26:11.440 investigated. That's fun.

01:26:13.340 And say goodbye, Peter

01:26:15.500 Perr.

01:26:17.920 Well, thank you, Peter Perr, for that wonderful

01:26:19.700 segment. Thank you.

01:26:21.660 uh shall we look at a couple of the comments from the website maybe uh start by reading a

01:26:27.940 couple of yours if you want yeah why not daniel butchers says is anyone shocked that they refused

01:26:33.780 to put in the christian heritage of europe or that they want to bring in anyone and everyone

01:26:38.600 into europe when they built their main building on the tower of babel yeah that really is it

01:26:46.080 Kevin Fox says 0.79

01:26:48.900 surely the EU is saying

01:26:50.860 its rules about discrimination

01:26:52.080 prevent EU countries

01:26:53.080 blocking the arrival

01:26:53.960 of non-Europeans

01:26:54.980 surely you can apply

01:26:56.240 those regulations

01:26:57.080 to protect yourself

01:26:58.020 if you are

01:26:58.680 if you are covered

01:27:00.360 EU regulations

01:27:02.020 and if you're not in Europe

01:27:03.640 or of European ancestry

01:27:05.220 then those charters

01:27:06.500 and legislative items

01:27:07.940 don't apply to you

01:27:08.800 no no

01:27:09.380 you must take as many

01:27:10.260 as you possibly

01:27:10.900 fit into

01:27:11.780 every room in your house

01:27:14.060 unfortunately

01:27:15.040 Zesty King 0.81

01:27:15.940 the europeans hatred for themselves comes from ignorance and a solution to it is knowledge teach

01:27:21.020 them to love themselves and all else will follow can't do that without love of god and accepting

01:27:26.040 god's love i'm sorry to keep going on about this but it is what it is and david ward says we the

01:27:32.120 indigenous europeans are not going to vote ourselves out of this the time is coming

01:27:36.560 could you pass me the mouse if you don't mind yeah thanks uh dirty belter says thank you uh

01:27:44.420 The police have forgotten that the respect they enjoy from the natives was earned from the good and honorable work of past generations.

01:27:50.780 This is everything in life.

01:27:52.320 Everything is built on the work of past generations.

01:27:54.840 They are busy wasting it and do not comprehend how much people resent them. 0.84

01:28:00.560 Imagine how hard it will be to police a race-conscious native population who openly hate and distrust the police. 0.95

01:28:06.380 Well, that's coming. 0.82

01:28:07.460 I hope it doesn't get to that, and I hope that the way is found politically, but whatever.

01:28:12.040 Yeah.

01:28:12.480 It doesn't seem the most probable thing.

01:28:14.420 uh economic zone 17 says the police comment on the video ignored what happened in the video

01:28:19.860 why do they think we will believe them i don't know i don't know don't share this video that

01:28:25.640 shows that we're lying yeah exactly just believe that now that's why censoring x is a bit high on

01:28:29.920 their agenda yeah baron van warhawk says after the after looking at the current legal system of

01:28:36.060 the west nobody can ever say that arkham asylum is unrealistic the only difference between western

01:28:40.540 civilization and gotham city now is that we don't have batman to hold back the tide of madness yeah

01:28:45.840 when they did the the hour when they had that i was calling it operation arkham's island when they

01:28:50.240 had the criminals celebrating with champagne outside i mean it doesn't get more arkham no it

01:28:54.920 doesn't you want to read a couple of your comments uh omar i think both left and farage have

01:28:59.400 difficulty appeasing the right because they know what the issues are but can't formulate a way to

01:29:03.240 justify tackling it without contradicting their liberal priors they're always behind on issues

01:29:07.340 because they must wait for popular approval,

01:29:09.020 therefore moving forward instead of forging their own solutions.

01:29:12.100 Yeah. 0.94

01:29:12.660 Michael, Farage is just a spineless, milquetoast weakling 0.88

01:29:15.280 who folds on the tough questions.

01:29:16.980 If Farage answered these accusations with a ballsy,

01:29:18.920 I don't care, dot, dot, dot.

01:29:20.360 Farage's whiny diatribe about journalists

01:29:22.400 putting his life at risk with their questions mental.

01:29:27.260 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:28.960 All right.

01:29:29.600 Well, this is all the time that we have for today.

01:29:31.980 Join us in half an hour for Lad's Hour,

01:29:34.940 expressing what we love about America.

01:29:37.340 That should be fun.

01:29:38.740 And see you in half an hour.

01:29:40.460 Thanks very much.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 03, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1454

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