The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1459

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, it is episode 1459, it is Friday the

00:00:06.240 10th of July, Year of Our Lord 2026, and I'm joined by the state of politics, Bo and Nate.

00:00:13.620 Hello.

00:00:14.180 Alright.

00:00:14.620 Check it out, it's well good.

00:00:15.880 Yeah, we were going to have Nick on, but at the very last minute he cancelled, so, and

00:00:22.860 I hope he's alright, because he lives in London, so he might have actually been mugged.

00:00:25.900 hopefully it's something fine like he discovered that the internet has porn or something or

00:00:30.140 or got a playstation or whatever around now is that Ebola's going around again I hope it's not

00:00:35.640 that I don't know this hashtag pray for Nick yeah not or not as possible was that um yeah so um so

00:00:44.060 so Bo is joining us but he doesn't have a second but I very very very quickly wrote a segment in

00:00:49.040 about two minutes and anyone who does YouTube will know this watch that segment get like three or

00:00:54.980 400,000 views

00:00:56.340 way more than

00:00:57.640 because I don't

00:00:58.080 I don't know how it works

00:00:59.220 but the less effort

00:01:00.900 you put into a segment

00:01:01.860 the better it does

00:01:02.940 unless you did that

00:01:04.040 on purpose

00:01:04.780 in which case

00:01:05.580 the YouTube gods

00:01:06.620 just sort of know

00:01:07.840 yeah

00:01:08.380 and then they punish you

00:01:09.440 and it's your worst

00:01:10.180 performing segment

00:01:11.120 it's really weird

00:01:11.700 isn't it

00:01:12.260 yeah

00:01:12.480 there is no rhyme

00:01:13.300 or reason to it

00:01:14.060 you can you can spend

00:01:14.700 hours days weeks

00:01:15.740 yes

00:01:16.260 even on something

00:01:17.140 and you're like

00:01:17.680 yeah this is amazing

00:01:18.780 and just like

00:01:19.560 11 views

00:01:20.440 you're like

00:01:21.160 great

00:01:21.560 I must admit

00:01:22.160 that's definitely true

00:01:23.340 a few times

00:01:24.500 I've put in a great deal

00:01:25.580 of way more effort

00:01:26.740 than is necessary

00:01:27.660 and the thing

00:01:28.620 I think it's important

00:01:29.640 I actually think

00:01:30.060 it's actually important

00:01:31.020 it's really well structured

00:01:32.600 and then something

00:01:33.280 you throw together

00:01:34.060 at the last moment

00:01:34.860 the internet loves it

00:01:36.180 yes

00:01:36.560 you never know

00:01:37.140 you never know

00:01:37.860 yeah I don't know

00:01:38.520 how it works

00:01:38.940 I do know that

00:01:40.500 he's quite bloody hot

00:01:41.640 so I've broken out

00:01:42.380 the Del Monte suit

00:01:43.280 and also my thinnest

00:01:45.460 because I only ever wear

00:01:46.440 was it

00:01:47.340 Ralph Lauren shirt

00:01:48.560 I was going to say

00:01:48.880 is that Ralph Lauren

00:01:49.580 you've got

00:01:49.960 I only wear Ralph Lauren

00:01:51.240 but this one

00:01:52.420 is the thin one

00:01:53.380 so I don't normally wear it 0.97

00:01:54.640 because you can see my nipples 0.86

00:01:55.380 I don't know if it comes up on camera 0.99

00:01:56.620 but you can kind of see nipples through it

00:01:59.060 but it's so thin 0.91

00:01:59.840 yeah

00:02:00.480 which led me to wonder

00:02:02.340 you're going to see it now aren't they

00:02:03.600 well

00:02:04.340 do we film

00:02:06.060 Samson do we film in 4k

00:02:07.700 why would you

00:02:09.000 yes okay

00:02:10.380 so it's very possible

00:02:14.120 so I've been sat here

00:02:15.480 no one knew that

00:02:16.420 until you literally flashed them off to people

00:02:18.720 well the men have

00:02:20.640 just offering information

00:02:21.560 no that yours are on show

00:02:23.040 Oh, okay, right.

00:02:23.840 Just offered this information to the world. 0.98

00:02:26.180 But no, I have been wondering, why do men have nipples? 0.97

00:02:29.840 They aren't necessary, are they? 0.98

00:02:30.940 No.

00:02:31.600 No?

00:02:32.040 I don't think that should be a thing.

00:02:33.700 They're completely superfluous, aren't they?

00:02:35.340 Yeah.

00:02:36.020 It's just left over from being a mammal, isn't it?

00:02:39.900 There's various parts on the human anatomy which we don't use, do we, right?

00:02:42.620 I mean, you actually know all about anatomy, don't you?

00:02:45.180 Which part of your anatomy don't you use?

00:02:47.400 The appendix, for starting.

00:02:48.480 The appendix is the famous one, isn't it?

00:02:49.820 yeah although there is some there was some more thought about potentially that almost being it

00:02:55.260 was a remnant but could potentially be used for future evolution as well now that's yeah so in

00:03:00.920 the future is out basically in the future my nipples might become useful yeah maybe right 0.96

00:03:05.240 yeah in the the who knows mate who knows about the cock six it's like something left over from 0.97

00:03:09.560 having a tail when we have tails there's various because we're evolution hasn't finished is it we're

00:03:15.100 still oh yeah so anyway oh i look forward to that maybe like a million years and it will be

00:03:20.640 incredibly useful for some particular thing all right anyway um yeah with that um we're going to

00:03:28.280 be talking about um i do apologize we're going to be talking about gary stevenson yes um benefits

00:03:35.060 and oh and i already said deny unite the right i think i said that so anyway let's stop waffling

00:03:41.000 biscuit on with something right so i i don't like talking about gary stevenson but i kind of have to

00:03:48.120 because today everybody wants to talk about gary stevenson i thought he'd gone away now he's

00:03:53.700 suddenly all over the internet again no last few days no he's he's he's a bit like an std he just

00:03:59.300 just comes back even when you think you're beating it so actually that was a bad analogy i'm gonna

00:04:04.920 Anyway, moving on.

00:04:07.960 For those of you...

00:04:09.080 All right, then.

00:04:11.360 Yes.

00:04:12.140 Anyway, so for those of you who don't know him,

00:04:14.480 I mean, he's...

00:04:16.180 He's a Cretan.

00:04:18.620 Samson did tell us not to use the naughty words. 0.89

00:04:21.220 Cretan's okay.

00:04:22.680 Surely Cretan's all right.

00:04:23.920 I was going to go with Nobber,

00:04:24.900 but I don't know if that's allowed or not.

00:04:26.660 Anyway, so for those of you who don't know,

00:04:29.060 maybe you're foreign or something. 1.00

00:04:31.220 You're not British.

00:04:31.800 uh you don't he basically does these videos uh where he thinks he's the absolute master of

00:04:37.780 economics um i'll show you okay so the first thing i want to say is usually well always i do this

00:04:47.060 video with these videos with no scripts and my philosophy basically is if you really really

00:04:54.440 understand the thing really well you you don't need a script you can just come on explain the

00:05:01.040 as clearly as possible and and that will be the best way to educate an audience so before so i

00:05:07.200 mean there you go so he's kind of of the view that he he knows everything so perfectly he never does

00:05:12.660 any research never looks into things he just he just knows all there is to know on his fake

00:05:19.800 working class kitchen set piece because that is a set yeah i mean the basic story behind the guy is

00:05:25.500 Is he grew up on, like, some council estate as a poor guy,

00:05:29.640 like four to a bedroom, kind of walking uphill in the snow to school,

00:05:33.180 that kind of...

00:05:34.080 Oh, my heart bleeds.

00:05:34.920 Yeah, that kind of stuff.

00:05:36.660 And then he became a trader and he made lots of money in trading.

00:05:40.380 Yeah, I don't really know his background.

00:05:41.600 That was one thing I was going to say.

00:05:42.500 What is his credentials?

00:05:43.580 I know he did something in finance.

00:05:44.800 What was it?

00:05:45.500 A trader of what?

00:05:46.900 I'll give you his...

00:05:47.660 What it is?

00:05:48.140 I've got it in here somewhere.

00:05:49.200 Let me just give you his full CV.

00:05:51.040 What it is?

00:05:51.480 There you go.

00:05:51.760 That is his entire CV.

00:05:54.140 Interest rates trader.

00:05:55.500 Yes.

00:05:55.780 For Citibank.

00:05:56.640 Yes.

00:05:58.120 For six years.

00:06:00.800 And he made a load of money and then got fired.

00:06:04.440 Fired?

00:06:05.960 Yeah, well.

00:06:06.840 What?

00:06:07.680 Yeah, I mean.

00:06:08.600 Has he got any formal training or education in political economy?

00:06:15.120 Oh, I think he might have gone to LSE or something like that.

00:06:17.860 I don't know.

00:06:18.680 Something like that.

00:06:20.160 But basically, when he was a trader, he had one idea.

00:06:25.500 and he kept doing it, and it kept working.

00:06:28.100 Right, yeah, brilliant.

00:06:29.200 And so he made loads of money.

00:06:30.600 Now, I'm pretty sure that the reason he made money

00:06:32.720 was because he got the direction of interest rates right

00:06:36.200 for the wrong reason, which I come into.

00:06:40.620 And then because he kept doubling down on it,

00:06:43.340 it made him look amazing until the thing,

00:06:46.960 he just stopped working.

00:06:48.400 Right.

00:06:49.340 But because he had the wrong theory as to why it was happening,

00:06:52.420 he didn't know why it happened,

00:06:53.480 and therefore it just turned against him one day.

00:06:55.500 He couldn't bob and weave.

00:06:56.740 He was just bobbing.

00:06:57.960 Yes.

00:06:58.120 I don't actually know much about it.

00:06:59.380 I've only ever seen a few clips of him that whenever they go viral,

00:07:02.240 here or there, I've never actually watched much of his

00:07:04.840 or any real of his content, but I've seen a dozen clips or whatever.

00:07:08.620 Yeah.

00:07:08.960 But I know it's a bit lame to be maybe an intellectual gatekeeper

00:07:13.800 or the appeal to authority or something,

00:07:17.580 but if you're talking about something really quite serious like economics

00:07:20.460 or political economy or something like that,

00:07:22.820 or if you're talking about a real science,

00:07:26.500 a hard science like physics or something,

00:07:28.540 you do want to know you're listening to someone

00:07:30.240 that really knows what they're talking about.

00:07:32.340 They've spent years being formally trained in that thing.

00:07:36.540 So do we know he actually knows anything about economics or not?

00:07:41.120 Does he or not?

00:07:41.880 Well, all available evidence would say no,

00:07:44.140 apart from him who would say yes.

00:07:46.180 Judging by everything he said.

00:07:47.840 Has anyone asked him about Adam Smith or something?

00:07:50.800 Just a couple of probing questions.

00:07:52.720 Do you know sort of 101 stuff?

00:07:54.800 Well, funnily enough, I might have some evidence of that.

00:07:57.780 Okay.

00:07:58.320 Of him being asked fairly basic questions.

00:07:59.960 Okay.

00:08:00.820 But according to him, he is a world-leading expert.

00:08:03.180 Oh.

00:08:04.120 So, I mean, I gave you what he's like when he's on his own.

00:08:09.480 He kind of sits up and he does this really bored thing.

00:08:12.140 Like, he's so, oh, I'm having to explain something so simple to you.

00:08:17.280 Why am I even doing this?

00:08:18.760 We just need wealth taxes.

00:08:20.500 and it's so boring for me to have to explain for the umpteenth time

00:08:24.960 why wealth taxes will fix everything.

00:08:28.200 A bit like if you were trying to explain, I don't know,

00:08:32.220 if you go to bed with an itchy bottom, you wake up with a smelly finger,

00:08:35.940 whatever it is, something incredible, whatever it is.

00:08:39.460 You're dropping lots of self-reports today.

00:08:42.760 No, honestly, trust me, that is a thing.

00:08:45.480 Okay, drinking water then, whatever it is, you have to drink water every day.

00:08:48.820 he kind of sits there

00:08:50.580 as if he's trying

00:08:51.100 to explain something

00:08:51.660 incredibly simple

00:08:52.960 to people

00:08:53.520 right

00:08:54.660 okay

00:08:56.700 but he's always

00:08:57.600 well after

00:08:57.880 anyway I'll play

00:08:58.940 a bit of

00:08:59.560 of him

00:09:00.560 when he's actually

00:09:02.100 you know

00:09:03.020 he's quite standoffish

00:09:04.020 isn't he

00:09:04.300 when he's with

00:09:04.940 other people

00:09:05.420 yeah I think

00:09:06.640 this one

00:09:07.220 that's

00:09:07.840 yeah Tom Swarbrick

00:09:08.820 so this is with him

00:09:09.880 somebody who's as

00:09:10.800 closely aligned with him

00:09:11.920 as you can reasonably get

00:09:13.160 six years ago

00:09:15.940 350 billion pounds

00:09:17.840 as more than three times the wealth of the world's richest man.

00:09:20.480 And just two weeks ago, we had a man go through $1 trillion.

00:09:22.940 These guys are growing their wealth at 40%, 50% a year, Tom,

00:09:25.520 in economies that are growing 1% or 2% a year if we're lucky.

00:09:28.960 If you do not stop that, mathematically, I guarantee you,

00:09:32.220 in 10, 20 years, they own everything, 0.88

00:09:33.780 which means ordinary British families own nothing. 0.97

00:09:35.900 Do you want to stop them? 1.00

00:09:37.040 Ah, that works.

00:09:37.960 I.e., you want to stop their ability to be that wealthy,

00:09:41.060 or do you just want to tax them more on the wealth that they're gaining

00:09:43.520 so you end up having more...

00:09:45.240 I want to stop their ability to grow that wealth quickly.

00:09:47.500 Listen, if you've got cancer, you need to stop that cancer from growing.

00:09:53.080 Making money is cancerous.

00:09:54.760 No, if they are growing their wealth at 50%, in economies that are growing 1%,

00:09:59.080 then everyone else in that economy has to lose an enormous amount of wealth every year.

00:10:03.280 It's not an infinite sum game here, Tom.

00:10:05.240 Is that how money works? 0.97

00:10:06.660 Just like Keir Starmer, I want the magic growth fairies to come down. 0.83

00:10:09.340 But you need wealthy people to continue to be wealthy. 1.00

00:10:11.360 This next bit is interesting.

00:10:12.640 What?

00:10:13.340 We will demolish that bit.

00:10:14.860 Okay, sorry, yeah.

00:10:15.520 But the next bit isn't insane.

00:10:17.500 fundamental misunderstanding yes okay but the next bit is more illuminating as to what he thinks

00:10:22.140 in order for the wealth tax to generate any i'm not trying to generate income i'm not this is not

00:10:27.600 about generating income this is about protecting the ability of ordinary british men and women to

00:10:31.940 own wealth to own their own home to not be poor now this is about a chip on his shoulder about

00:10:37.540 ultra wealthy people that's what this is about it seems to me yes spiteful resentful

00:10:43.040 fundamentally from a level of understanding

00:10:46.960 barely above a five-year-old comprehension,

00:10:49.580 to be honest.

00:10:50.520 Yeah.

00:10:51.900 That's terrible.

00:10:53.920 The left do this

00:10:54.720 because they don't understand what wealth is.

00:10:56.220 Wealth is not money.

00:10:57.480 Money is just something that you use to divide

00:10:59.980 the amount of goods and service you've got by

00:11:02.620 in order to discover the price level.

00:11:03.960 So what you need to imagine is

00:11:05.440 there's all the goods and services

00:11:06.960 and that needs to be growing all the time.

00:11:09.740 And then you've got whatever amount of money you've got

00:11:11.940 and that actually does grow all the time as well

00:11:13.740 because of inflation.

00:11:15.060 And you just divide one by the other

00:11:16.480 and you get the price level, right?

00:11:18.000 But actual wealth is the amount of goods and services

00:11:20.960 expanding all the time.

00:11:22.500 So you do want more wealth every year.

00:11:25.880 You do want people like Elon Musk coming along

00:11:27.800 and inventing new things and building new things

00:11:31.160 because it makes this second pile grow bigger

00:11:33.240 and bigger and bigger.

00:11:35.340 And even if Elon Musk, I mean, what you want

00:11:37.780 is you want Elon Musk's wealth to increase 100% every year,

00:11:40.500 not 50% of you, because it means the amount of goods

00:11:42.500 and services are getting bigger, and you want everybody

00:11:44.420 to do that, right?

00:11:45.880 But the left cannot

00:11:48.320 understand that it's the second half of the equation.

00:11:50.720 All they see is the money.

00:11:52.600 Yeah, supply and demand, the left

00:11:54.260 just don't understand. Like, I'd love him to apply

00:11:56.260 this logic with immigrants, and the 0.99

00:11:58.380 supply and demand of labour. 1.00

00:12:00.120 Labour has an inherent value, you flood

00:12:02.260 the market with excess supply.

00:12:04.280 That used to be left-wing economics.

00:12:07.800 Yeah, well...

00:12:08.860 Yeah, original left-wing economics was, let's not import anybody 0.66

00:12:12.620 because they'd be competing for our wages. 0.99

00:12:15.580 These people are insane. 0.98

00:12:17.300 He doesn't know what the hell he's talking about at a fundamental level. 0.99

00:12:21.900 So he just sits there with that Simeon Browridge coming up with his...

00:12:27.000 Anyway, I won't go on.

00:12:31.100 Right, what's this?

00:12:32.620 Oh, yeah.

00:12:35.760 Didn't I?

00:12:36.780 Yeah.

00:12:37.040 this is comedy gold

00:12:39.620 this is him

00:12:41.220 getting deeply confused and also

00:12:44.040 deeply combative

00:12:45.180 there's a reason, sorry to interrupt, there's a reason why

00:12:48.200 there's very few clips of this man interacting

00:12:50.260 with other people that are

00:12:51.780 in his line of work

00:12:54.100 because it's just

00:12:56.420 it gets bodied

00:12:57.900 one after another

00:12:59.320 it's a fundamental misunderstanding of a thing that he's

00:13:02.200 talking about

00:13:02.760 the Duke of Westminster inherited

00:13:06.160 10 billion pounds and paid nothing. Do you think that's fair? That's not true.

00:13:10.280 Okay, why is it not true? Because the Duke of Westminster is one of the highest taxpayers

00:13:14.100 in the country. What does he pay? Well, on the trust, the Grosvenor estate,

00:13:18.020 they don't pay inheritance tax because trusts can't die. They pay something called periodic

00:13:23.000 taxes, which is 6% every 10 years. So they pay 0.6% a year. So I paid 60% and this guy

00:13:29.420 pays 0.6%. Apples with apples. Inheritance tax is 40% across the course of your life

00:13:34.620 if a person lives who owns a trust for 70 years,

00:13:40.340 then 6% times 7 would be 42.

00:13:43.260 So they actually pay more.

00:13:44.680 So he pays 0.6% a year.

00:13:47.660 You're telling me 0.6% a year.

00:13:49.000 But that would be the same as...

00:13:49.940 What percent did I pay per year?

00:13:51.240 No, no, no.

00:13:52.160 60%.

00:13:52.560 Hold up.

00:13:52.960 So you're saying I pay, what, 60 over 0.6?

00:13:55.460 No, no, no, no.

00:13:56.120 100 times the tax rate.

00:13:57.440 You're not comparing apples with apples.

00:13:58.980 Why is he not apples with apples?

00:14:00.060 This guy pays 0.6% a year.

00:14:02.000 I paid 60% a year.

00:14:03.340 That's inheritance tax.

00:14:04.340 I paid that 60% every year, Daniel.

00:14:06.520 Every year I paid it.

00:14:07.480 You're paying income tax.

00:14:08.660 So why have I paid income tax?

00:14:10.540 Why do I pay more than you?

00:14:11.720 The Duke of Westminster pays income tax.

00:14:13.220 He probably makes your bill blush.

00:14:16.280 Yeah?

00:14:16.600 He pays income tax.

00:14:17.640 Yeah.

00:14:18.040 Well, if he's going to live, he has to withdraw money to have his income.

00:14:22.000 Let me give you a list of all the taxes he would pay.

00:14:24.940 He'd pay income tax, corporate tax.

00:14:26.700 He'd pay stamp duty when he buys a building.

00:14:28.980 He pays any of the other taxes, VAT when he spends money.

00:14:33.100 All the same taxes apply to a Duke as they apply to anybody else.

00:14:36.220 So you think he pays income tax on the income on that?

00:14:38.660 Any income he draws.

00:14:39.440 OK, well, I've been going to search whether he pays income tax on his income.

00:14:42.580 Because I don't think he does.

00:14:43.380 I mean, how could he not?

00:14:44.600 He's in a trust.

00:14:46.320 There we go.

00:14:47.000 Gary is just refusing to believe that he pays all of these taxes.

00:14:50.740 I was going to say, the Duke of Westminster isn't above the law.

00:14:54.980 He seemed to be arguing that the Duke of Westminster is exempt from taxes.

00:15:00.180 Of course he's not.

00:15:01.440 That is so funny.

00:15:02.760 There was a very funny auto-transcribe error in there,

00:15:06.480 but I don't think anybody spotted it.

00:15:08.600 I did.

00:15:09.780 Yeah.

00:15:10.400 But, yeah, no.

00:15:11.880 So, yeah, okay, fine.

00:15:13.080 Yeah, trusts, they don't die.

00:15:16.360 They're a legal person.

00:15:18.560 I mean, all legal things, all legal constructs

00:15:21.180 are a legal person under the law, but they never die,

00:15:23.900 and therefore you can't charge them inheritance tax,

00:15:26.260 and therefore you charge them a trust tax instead.

00:15:30.100 And Gary clearly thought that was instead of everything else.

00:15:38.160 And even when he's being explained it to me, it explained it.

00:15:41.420 That will all be born out of, again, having a chip on his shoulder.

00:15:45.180 Yes.

00:15:45.880 About ultra rich people.

00:15:47.760 Again, a classic sort of socialist commie thing that it's old money,

00:15:52.560 very, very old money that's passed down through families,

00:15:54.980 that that's fundamentally the problem with society is that and that must be broken and 0.97

00:16:01.020 destroyed at all costs whenever you find it and it's just bullshit yeah i mean it goes back to 0.92

00:16:07.740 the fundamental left-wing problem which i described is they can't and they don't see the other half of 0.97

00:16:12.020 the equation they don't see the bundle of goods and services growing so he can't imagine wealth

00:16:17.220 being created and therefore when he thinks about the duke of westminster he just thinks oh he

00:16:23.200 inherited that money that was stolen and that and that's it that that's the only thing you can

00:16:28.240 possibly do with money is get it from other people and the reason the left think that rich people are

00:16:32.880 rich is because they stole because they think in the natural state of nature everybody's got the

00:16:37.420 same amount of money yeah he's on the he's on the scrooge mcduck level of economics yes that's what

00:16:42.800 he believes every rich person is just scrooge mcduck in their wealth every night yes that's

00:16:47.960 That's not how it works, Gary, mate.

00:16:49.980 When Marx and Engels wrote their political economy

00:16:54.440 in the mid-19th century, it was such a different world, right,

00:16:57.880 where you did have giant families and aristocracies

00:17:01.880 that were sort of holding wealth in some ways

00:17:04.960 at the expense of normal people.

00:17:08.220 Yeah.

00:17:08.680 That's not what Elon or the Duke of Westminster is doing, though.

00:17:12.100 No.

00:17:12.820 Elon started off as poor as he was.

00:17:14.760 And also, Elon doesn't have a trillion dollars.

00:17:17.500 No.

00:17:17.600 He doesn't have a trillion dollar.

00:17:18.760 Right, yeah, yeah.

00:17:19.420 No, he has assets which other people have placed a notional value on

00:17:24.160 at the marginal unit of exchange.

00:17:26.640 He's got his liquid assets.

00:17:27.660 Also, the assets are business, which is a wealth creator giving wealth

00:17:33.620 to employees.

00:17:34.880 Yes.

00:17:35.300 I said on the breakfast show, Breakfast with Bo, I said,

00:17:41.140 what would be super cool, though, if Elon did sell everything he owned

00:17:45.020 to become, in a liquid sense, a trillionaire?

00:17:47.600 Wouldn't that be truly like Bond villain level badass?

00:17:51.680 And literally had?

00:17:53.360 Actually had bank accounts with a trillion dollars in them.

00:17:56.180 Wouldn't that be cool?

00:17:56.900 I mean, from an investment point of view, that would be utterly disastrous.

00:18:01.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:02.080 On one level, it's completely mad.

00:18:03.580 Why would you?

00:18:04.600 But still, with a 12-year-old's brain, that's cool.

00:18:08.360 You could actually have a Scrooge McDuck.

00:18:10.680 I mean, not in the back.

00:18:12.300 There is value to buying up every one-ounce gold coin in the world.

00:18:17.600 and putting it in a literal swimming pool.

00:18:20.200 That would be quite funny.

00:18:21.800 Well, like Goldfinger actually owning most of the world's bullion privately.

00:18:26.460 Yes.

00:18:27.260 Would be cool, wouldn't it?

00:18:28.620 That would be cool.

00:18:29.400 Except if a leftist saw that swimming pool of gold.

00:18:33.940 Oh, they'd go berserk, wouldn't they?

00:18:35.260 If a leftist saw that swimming pool of gold,

00:18:37.540 because they think, like you say, in the Scrooge McDuck terms,

00:18:40.560 they would probably try and dive into it,

00:18:42.020 expecting to just come up the other side or something.

00:18:44.800 They'd get really badly hurt.

00:18:46.760 Anyway, so he doesn't often do interviews,

00:18:49.840 but he decided to do a documentary on Channel 4.

00:18:53.120 So funny.

00:18:55.000 And the weird thing is he's getting bodied by the left as well.

00:18:58.700 So this is the Guardian review.

00:19:00.340 And bear in mind, if he's going to get a favourable view anywhere,

00:19:02.700 he's going to be the Guardian.

00:19:04.060 And they're absolutely slating.

00:19:05.940 Oh, are they?

00:19:06.860 Yeah.

00:19:08.820 I like the fact that they're recognising that this new push

00:19:12.740 for a wealth tax is basically a religion.

00:19:15.560 Yes.

00:19:16.100 The evangelising.

00:19:17.420 I mean, that's what it is for these people.

00:19:20.220 It's just shifting the blame somewhere else,

00:19:22.320 believing in a higher power.

00:19:23.700 We can wealth tax our way to prosperity.

00:19:26.480 Every few years it gets tried somewhere

00:19:28.840 and it has the exact opposite results to what they want

00:19:32.760 and then they scrap it.

00:19:34.160 The net amount that any given treasury takes will go down

00:19:37.660 because the rich people simply leave.

00:19:40.660 Ultra-rich people, they're the exact type of people

00:19:43.100 that it's in their power to just leave.

00:19:45.600 Yes.

00:19:46.900 So they do.

00:19:47.720 And they've been doing that under Labour on just the notion

00:19:51.920 that a wealth tax might come in.

00:19:54.120 Well, they've been doing it throughout history.

00:19:56.840 Yes.

00:19:57.600 Yes.

00:19:58.340 Well, also that, yes.

00:19:59.320 Since the ancient world, if you're being taxed too much

00:20:01.660 and you've got enough wealth and power to just move to somewhere

00:20:04.240 where you're not being taxed that heavily, then people do.

00:20:08.320 Yes.

00:20:09.020 You just go and live in Monaco or Luxembourg or Texas.

00:20:13.840 Pretty straightforward.

00:20:15.140 All right.

00:20:15.480 I'm just thinking where's the bit where she's like really nailing him um yeah the first thing

00:20:21.680 is that Stevenson is not an appealing presenter he has an adolescent bullishness about him

00:20:26.180 um that comes across badly on screen raises a sort of fight or flight response in the viewer

00:20:31.720 instead of encouraging engagement the strident idealism infuses his speech and style is hard

00:20:37.620 enough to take uh from the young where where it at least belongs but sits less well on a 39 year

00:20:43.980 old adults should have the confidence the experience and the wisdom that offers more

00:20:47.480 and that's the thing he just keeps his solution to everything that's from a guardian writer and

00:20:52.580 that's from the guardian okay yeah i mean no lies detected really he's sort of i mean no one's

00:20:58.620 perfect but yes his sort of physicality is odd isn't it yes yeah he's quite dysgenic

00:21:05.580 someone said do you think it's is it is he a recovering drug addict i don't know i don't i'm

00:21:12.940 I genuinely don't know, I'm asking.

00:21:14.480 I don't think so.

00:21:15.540 Aren't those sort of mannerisms and physicality

00:21:17.860 the result of having been addicted to some very serious drugs?

00:21:23.260 I'm genuinely asking in good faith, I don't know.

00:21:25.280 Yeah, they're strongly emblematic of that,

00:21:29.920 like representative of that, but not always.

00:21:32.200 He may have a degenerative sort of cognitive order.

00:21:37.660 Yeah, he might have a neurological issue.

00:21:39.800 I mean, I don't know.

00:21:40.840 but yeah like the shakes the shifting the eyes darting you know that sort of thing yeah it's

00:21:47.040 very much addict behavior it's something which you would correlate quite strongly with an addict

00:21:52.240 i i mean you're being kinder than i am he really strong i can't say what i actually think he really

00:21:57.720 strongly reminds me of a pg tips advert from the 80s that's it's the taste yeah

00:22:03.620 is it the brow line if you know you know if you know you know um

00:22:10.340 anyway uh so yeah he i haven't watched the interview yet uh i will watch it and i'll

00:22:16.820 probably do a broconomics on it because as much as i hate seeing his face and and people tell me

00:22:21.260 all the time all the time i'm getting comments saying oh you should have gary stevenson on it's

00:22:26.580 like what would be the point the most unproductive thing ever it'd be a literal waste of my time the

00:22:32.340 audience's time there's there's nothing useful to come out of that but i keep getting asked all the

00:22:36.400 time and that's why it irritates me so much very few people genuinely irritate me he does anyway

00:22:44.080 so he's done this interview and he spoke to somebody and i think needle is a bit leftist

00:22:49.400 actually yeah yeah he is um but he does actually know tax really well and so of course he he he

00:22:57.060 starts grabbing these sort of lefties that you can have these these conversations with um but but i

00:23:02.880 needle is again it just just isn't having this nonsense so i'll play a bit of this

00:23:09.200 is that saying it's a non-starter the forward says an annual wealth tax is a non-starter let

00:23:16.180 me ask you a question someone invests in the uk a foreigner invests in the uk do you charge wealth

00:23:20.640 tax on their uk investments if they're incredibly wealthy i say yes okay but then why is someone

00:23:27.760 very wealthy going to make an investment in the uk rather than say france if they're going to have

00:23:32.620 a 2% hit on their investment every year.

00:23:35.100 Why would they do that?

00:23:35.840 I think that's a very good point.

00:23:36.920 And I think it's very possible that if you have a wealth tax,

00:23:39.420 it will make it less attractive for foreign investors.

00:23:42.380 But I think that what we can do is improve the wealth ownership

00:23:45.780 of the general public.

00:23:47.140 And we can make a wealthy general public.

00:23:48.700 And it will be profitable to invest here.

00:23:50.400 And we can have the investments in by British people that.

00:23:53.380 But so this is really serious.

00:23:54.800 So suddenly you're creating a massive incentive

00:23:56.860 for foreign private companies and foreign wealthy people

00:24:01.300 to pull their capital out of the UK.

00:24:03.120 These are big effects.

00:24:04.400 In fact, the effect of a wealth tax has been modelled.

00:24:07.080 It's been modelling in Germany and in the US.

00:24:10.020 Wealth tax is less significant than the wealth tax you're proposing.

00:24:13.500 They're estimated a hit to long-run GDP of between 2% and 5%.

00:24:16.900 You were just completely blithely dismissing the idea

00:24:20.540 that foreign investment is important.

00:24:22.040 No, of course I'm not dismissing that.

00:24:24.300 I'm not dismissing that.

00:24:25.100 I'm an economist, right?

00:24:27.260 I know what's going to happen.

00:24:28.300 And I'll tell you right now what's going to happen.

00:24:29.620 This is my job.

00:24:30.220 No, no, no.

00:24:30.860 If you were a proper economist, you would have thought about the foreign investment.

00:24:33.820 You think I'm not a proper economist?

00:24:35.140 Why haven't you thought about the foreign investment?

00:24:36.840 Of course I've thought about it.

00:24:38.080 No, you haven't.

00:24:39.660 I've read...

00:24:40.380 Why do you think I haven't thought about it, Dan?

00:24:42.020 Because there's no evidence you ever thought about it.

00:24:43.860 When I asked you that question, you were thinking about it for the first time.

00:24:48.540 Again, that's what I would do.

00:24:49.820 I would like to see someone ask him some pretty simple questions about, I don't know,

00:24:54.600 John Maynard Keynes or something.

00:24:56.360 Yeah.

00:24:56.800 Something like that.

00:24:57.460 just to see if he, just the basics, not really grill him,

00:25:03.180 but just, like, have you read much economics, political economy?

00:25:08.480 Do you know really anything about it?

00:25:11.420 Has anyone ever done that? I would like to see that.

00:25:13.060 The way he's so insistent, I mean, I don't call myself a proper economist.

00:25:16.540 I'm interested in economics and I talk about economics,

00:25:18.780 but I don't sit there all day like some city bank reading economic reports

00:25:23.780 and reading non-farm payrolls. I just don't do it.

00:25:27.160 So I would never call myself a proper economist.

00:25:30.580 I mean, I say it to people like if I meet somebody, you know,

00:25:33.680 picking up my kids from school and they say, what do you do?

00:25:35.780 I might say, oh, economist or something.

00:25:37.460 It's an easy way to shut them up.

00:25:38.860 It's better than online racist or whatever.

00:25:40.680 You know, whatever else I have to put out the bag to try and explain.

00:25:44.480 I mean, I say the same.

00:25:45.540 I don't call myself a historian.

00:25:47.500 I'm not a professional historian.

00:25:48.800 I'm a history fan with a mic.

00:25:50.120 I've always been saying that from day one of history, bro.

00:25:52.600 Some people say, oh, you think you're a historian,

00:25:54.700 you claim to be a historian.

00:25:55.420 No.

00:25:56.200 No, I'm not published.

00:25:57.360 I don't lecture in history.

00:25:58.600 No, I'm just a fan.

00:26:00.120 Same with economics.

00:26:00.920 Unless you're lecturing in it,

00:26:02.820 or perhaps if you've published a number of books,

00:26:04.860 maybe then can you describe yourself as a proper economist.

00:26:07.840 If you haven't done those things, then you're not.

00:26:09.960 You won't be.

00:26:10.460 Being a proper economist or even a proper historian is really boring

00:26:12.920 because you spend all day long going through boring source material.

00:26:17.580 I mean, you might actually enjoy that.

00:26:19.180 You know, just sitting there at a library going through like 4,000 references

00:26:22.300 or something.

00:26:22.840 but you know i i wouldn't enjoy reading economic reports but yeah he's absolutely insistent he is

00:26:27.960 anyway moving on um what else so go away gary how do i make gary shut up gary on wealth of above

00:26:37.620 oh there we go samson did it right um what else have i got oh yeah so that dan needle bloke he

00:26:44.500 was talking i mean it's quite quite interesting what you said you said look i don't often talk

00:26:49.220 about you know personal things but for a start um as soon as he as soon as he met gary um he

00:26:57.140 started attacking him for having deleted a tweet that criticized him and then deleting other

00:27:02.360 people's tweets what yes what and any well and he says yeah i was a bit confused i couldn't

00:27:10.180 remember ever leaving a tweet um and you can't delete other people's tweets you just can't do

00:27:15.980 it but but stevenson felt that that had happened and like with all of his economic theory if he

00:27:21.980 feels it then it's true right so why have you been going around deleting other people's tweets about

00:27:27.520 me can't do that yeah i mean that that's an example so there to talk about economics or

00:27:34.940 twitter which one also like what this is the guy from the clip what a what an incredibly fragile

00:27:40.460 thing to do that's one of the first things you say to someone that you're interviewing for your

00:27:44.700 own documentary why'd you delete some tweets about me what yes what we what what we're doing

00:27:50.040 here um anyway then he finds the tweet and says look it's still up actually uh and and oh yeah

00:27:55.840 and and actually this is the same point i made the other strange thing about the interviews how

00:28:00.540 many times steven said he was the world leading expert on inequality this is not what experts

00:28:05.580 tend to do it made me uncomfortable and suspicious like odd gaps in his knowledge like he said the

00:28:10.960 house price has been falling real terms over the last 10 years when i don't call myself a proper

00:28:14.940 economist but i knew that um but again he just wouldn't accept it just like he would not accept

00:28:20.580 that is that is true yes what and and why and why would you assert the opposite if you haven't even

00:28:27.720 looked at the data it's just like he refused to accept the fact that the duke of westminster

00:28:31.640 pays income tax yeah i don't think he i don't think he pays income i'd have to look into that

00:28:35.600 It's all vibes, isn't it?

00:28:36.360 It's vibes economics.

00:28:37.560 Yes.

00:28:38.440 Yes. 1.00

00:28:39.120 God damn. 0.99

00:28:40.160 It is a bit bizarre. 0.99

00:28:42.340 But ultimately, I think this clip from Idiocracy

00:28:46.280 is going to explain really kind of what's going on

00:28:48.700 because in Gary's mind, have you seen Idiocracy?

00:28:53.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:54.540 Right. 1.00

00:28:55.380 In Gary's mind, he's the smart one explaining to the dumb people. 0.99

00:28:59.300 But in reality, he's the dumb person explaining to the smart person. 0.99

00:29:03.620 And it just gives me an excuse. 0.99

00:29:05.600 to talk about idiocracy briefly he would not get out of the way this time he would lead 0.90

00:29:12.480 for the last time i'm pretty sure what's killing the crops is this brondo stuff the brondo's got

00:29:18.640 what plants crave it's got electrolytes so wait a minute what you're saying is that you want us to

00:29:24.320 put water on the crops yes water like out the toilet well i mean it doesn't have to be out

00:29:31.760 of the toilet but but yeah that's the idea but brondo's got what plants crave it's got electrolytes

00:29:38.480 okay look the plants aren't growing so i'm pretty sure that the brondo's not working now i'm no

00:29:44.240 botanist but i do know that if you put water on plants they grow well i've never seen no plants

00:29:50.000 grow out of no toilet hey that's good you sure you ain't the smartest guy in the world yeah

00:29:55.840 okay look you want to solve this problem i want to get my pardon so why don't we just try it

00:30:00.880 Okay, and not worry.

00:30:02.980 Anyway, you kind of get my point.

00:30:04.220 It's a good film.

00:30:04.840 It's actually a really funny film.

00:30:06.120 Yes.

00:30:06.920 But Stevenson reckons that he's so much smarter than us 1.00

00:30:10.520 having to explain to dumb people. 0.99

00:30:13.040 Yeah. 1.00

00:30:13.440 And it's literally the opposite way around.

00:30:15.880 The Dunning-Kruger effect.

00:30:17.940 Yes. 1.00

00:30:18.640 So dumb that you fail to appreciate how dumb you are. 1.00

00:30:22.000 Yes. 1.00

00:30:23.180 Yes.

00:30:24.500 But here's the immensely worrying thing about all of it.

00:30:27.680 if you just go and ask people

00:30:32.000 do you want

00:30:32.480 70% of the public

00:30:34.260 say yes

00:30:36.100 well a large portion

00:30:38.020 of them are bloody 1.00

00:30:38.500 foreigners 1.00

00:30:39.380 that just want to scam 1.00

00:30:40.260 everyone anyway

00:30:41.060 yeah

00:30:41.760 and a large

00:30:42.840 and another large

00:30:43.800 percentage of them

00:30:44.840 are unfortunately

00:30:46.120 just really

00:30:47.060 uneducated

00:30:48.620 and resentful

00:30:49.560 which

00:30:50.920 is a terrible

00:30:53.580 terrible mix

00:30:55.160 to be honest

00:30:55.680 but this is the danger

00:30:56.480 of somebody like

00:30:57.080 rather than i mean i hate taxes and i hate handouts which we'll get to in my segment

00:31:02.380 this is the thing it's them believing that they're owed it's that um green eyes of envy

00:31:09.960 yes this is unbecoming and it subjugates you to but but like if we look at his channel what has

00:31:17.980 he got like 1.6 million subscribers 77 of the british public that that's the problem with

00:31:23.400 somebody like gary is he he could just sit there without knowing anything at all and say a thing 0.55

00:31:29.080 70 of the public are like yeah that sounds really good 1.6 million subscribers it's like fat people

00:31:35.280 want a tablet just to make you lose weight people don't understand that these things like

00:31:39.660 yes people just want to go the easy route and so it's whatever you know obviously even if it

00:31:44.660 doesn't work yes well i'll just go just take whatever it's the easy thing so just do that

00:31:49.040 but the actual answer is much more complicated 0.99

00:31:52.420 but he can come up with this stupid stuff 1.00

00:31:54.700 and it appeals to people 1.00

00:31:56.340 but then if somebody like me or

00:31:58.440 Dan Needle or whoever it is then wants

00:32:00.440 to argue no it doesn't work we then need to start

00:32:02.400 pulling out okay here are the historical examples

00:32:04.700 and here's the data

00:32:05.540 here's why it doesn't work and here's why the mechanism's

00:32:08.480 wrong whereas he could just say it

00:32:10.120 and everyone's like yeah brilliant

00:32:11.560 people won't even listen to that even if he did

00:32:14.240 fighting an uphill

00:32:16.340 battle with stuff like that which is really unfortunate

00:32:18.260 You know, it's a shame.

00:32:19.080 Yeah, all right.

00:32:20.660 Have the people in the...

00:32:21.980 Has somebody explained in the comments 0.97

00:32:23.800 why men have nipples? 0.99

00:32:25.540 Let's have a look. 0.99

00:32:28.980 Back to the important stuff.

00:32:30.780 All right, Bass Tape says,

00:32:32.540 Oh, cool.

00:32:34.780 T-Slop has a special guest today.

00:32:37.820 Spearhead the Peahound and the Spastic Mechanic

00:32:40.360 with a special guest, Dan Il-Ed.

00:32:45.240 I-Ed.

00:32:46.440 The Spastic Mechanic. 0.86

00:32:47.640 slaphead

00:32:48.860 was that complimentary or not 0.98

00:32:51.960 I'm not

00:32:52.380 not really no

00:32:53.800 in terms of endearment

00:32:56.440 I don't know

00:32:57.060 I don't mind though

00:32:58.040 base tape's well alright isn't he

00:32:59.260 he's one of us

00:33:00.860 Scott Sciguy

00:33:03.120 I find Gary inspirational 1.00

00:33:04.820 a low functioning midwit 1.00

00:33:06.300 that can't coherently put sentences together 0.99

00:33:08.160 but can become rich

00:33:09.120 and then sell a book that says

00:33:10.360 tax the rich

00:33:11.440 a hundred times capitalism rocks

00:33:13.560 yeah

00:33:14.760 yeah quite

00:33:15.700 and thank you for

00:33:17.040 for doing these in yellow

00:33:18.640 like proper super chats

00:33:20.840 well done

00:33:21.140 another yellow one

00:33:23.020 from Paladin

00:33:23.880 five dollars 1.00

00:33:24.540 I hate talking to boomers 1.00

00:33:25.740 about economics

00:33:26.380 they call me a socialist

00:33:27.520 when I talk about

00:33:28.920 predatory capital

00:33:29.700 like private equity

00:33:30.620 or if I talk about

00:33:31.680 successful government projects

00:33:32.860 like hydroelectric dams

00:33:35.280 yes

00:33:35.860 an engaged few

00:33:37.840 for five dollars as well

00:33:39.320 this guy speaks

00:33:40.080 with the sound

00:33:40.520 brain cells dying

00:33:41.540 of loneliness

00:33:42.140 yes

00:33:43.660 Siglestone

00:33:46.640 with the green says uh he sees one number bigger than the other and it's all he can process yes

00:33:51.540 it's there are other groups do that don't they uh fallen firebird says i genuinely despise

00:33:56.940 gangster uh accented leftoids like gary because you know he's only made viral by poncy middle 0.73

00:34:03.440 class twats using as a token working class mascot to prove their socialist credentials

00:34:07.240 yes i noticed that um oh um that that really annoying podcast with the guy who started the 0.61

00:34:15.780 war and the guy who looks like an old lady with aids oh golem with late stage aids yes yeah yeah

00:34:22.200 um rory stewart yes yes rory stewart goes on his podcast quite a lot okay oh brilliant there's

00:34:29.500 everything and and the other one really likes him as well alice there um sack o possum what a nice

00:34:37.640 surprise slaphead the minge hound and mctraps the fanny magnet oh and that guy guessed who

00:34:46.020 hosts the breakfast show that one time is that complimentary i'll take it these these are from

00:34:54.640 our sunday live shows i'm just going to read that again in my head okay i'm i'm gonna have

00:35:04.480 to ruminate on that one a bit um and logan says uh some of us uh need a pill uh yeah are you a lady

00:35:13.580 logan not sure what that's in reference to anyway all right shall we talk about benefits britain

00:35:21.640 and the infinity benefits for everyone i guess uh so just a few that i just want to have a chit

00:35:29.540 chat about our sort of state dependency on welfare and the fact that it's never ending

00:35:33.860 It's always going to continue.

00:35:35.500 Did I hear that there are now more people taking out of the system

00:35:39.320 than putting in?

00:35:39.920 I think I saw that.

00:35:40.960 Oh, yeah.

00:35:41.860 Yes.

00:35:42.380 Yeah, there's more.

00:35:43.380 The welfare bill is higher than the income tax bill for starters as well.

00:35:46.560 Yes, well, yes.

00:35:47.560 So those economics don't quite balance out,

00:35:50.620 literally don't balance out very well.

00:35:53.520 The thing is, if you make a point as simple as that,

00:35:55.220 you'll always have somebody on Twitter who will come back up,

00:35:57.800 oh, government finances are nothing like household finances,

00:36:01.880 as if it somehow inverts.

00:36:04.420 Yeah, well, because I guess they think

00:36:06.620 they can just print more money

00:36:07.640 as if that doesn't affect anything.

00:36:09.520 Well, the only real difference fundamentally

00:36:12.000 is that a treasury won't, should die like a trust.

00:36:18.540 It doesn't die.

00:36:19.540 So if you borrow billions and billions

00:36:22.760 and billions and billions off of,

00:36:24.300 let's say, New York bankers,

00:36:25.960 they will give you 100 years, 200 years to pay it back.

00:36:29.640 That's the fundamental difference

00:36:30.980 between the national purse and an individual.

00:36:35.580 Well, provided the coupon is worth something to them,

00:36:37.460 if you just keep printing money.

00:36:39.380 The point is, yeah, if you spend way above your means,

00:36:42.840 you will eventually go bankrupt.

00:36:44.180 A whole nation will do that.

00:36:45.520 It will eventually default like Russia did in the 90s.

00:36:48.920 Yeah, so, well, that's kind of the conversation that...

00:36:51.180 You have to devalue your currency.

00:36:52.440 You can't go on spending way more than you get in indefinitely.

00:36:57.380 You cannot do that.

00:36:58.440 Well, that's kind of the topic here, to be honest.

00:37:00.980 That's what I wanted to talk about is that we are effectively on the precipice

00:37:06.920 or in already a doom loop where the welfare bill is so high,

00:37:11.520 the benefits bill is so high, income tax is still low,

00:37:14.860 but they're going to obviously try and tax more.

00:37:16.680 That's obviously the inevitable end goal, but you're going to get less tax,

00:37:21.340 but the welfare bill will still go up because, of course,

00:37:23.260 every time that they do this, which has been proven

00:37:25.420 just over the list of Labour governments anyway, they cut jobs.

00:37:30.980 Right. For instance, you know, national insurance went up. So employers just fired a bunch of people.

00:37:35.160 They were like, we're not paying that. See you. And so you get more people on welfare.

00:37:39.320 And then it's just this endless, endless cycle. I mean, good that you're on this panel today, Dan, for this.

00:37:46.340 And it started with this. This caught my eye earlier in the week.

00:37:50.280 And there's two things I wanted to talk about with this. 0.74

00:37:52.340 So Education Secretary Bridget Philipson has called for families on benefits to be given 33 hours of childcare a week.

00:38:04.180 So they can do what instead with the time?

00:38:06.400 Mate, I've got no idea.

00:38:09.180 So this is an extension of an existing policy.

00:38:13.880 So for those suggesting that, well, people on benefits work, this is for the unemployed.

00:38:19.500 this is for the people

00:38:20.580 I mean yeah

00:38:21.360 it'll be the people

00:38:21.860 on benefits

00:38:22.380 that are employment as well

00:38:23.360 but it's an extension

00:38:24.440 of an already

00:38:25.120 pre-existing policy

00:38:26.460 which is this

00:38:27.120 free childcare

00:38:27.700 for working parents 0.98

00:38:28.620 right

00:38:29.800 you may be able

00:38:30.880 to get 30 hours

00:38:31.540 of free childcare

00:38:32.160 a week

00:38:32.660 through

00:38:33.440 the free childcare

00:38:35.220 for working parents scheme 0.98

00:38:36.280 you must be aged 1.00

00:38:37.540 your child must be aged 0.97

00:38:38.740 nine months

00:38:39.380 to four years

00:38:39.980 so realistically

00:38:41.040 at that age

00:38:41.860 I mean those are

00:38:42.980 very important years 1.00

00:38:43.900 the wife should just be at home 1.00

00:38:45.020 looking after them 1.00

00:38:46.040 anyway

00:38:46.400 that's my view

00:38:47.260 old school

00:38:48.440 uh children must be provided by a registered provider child care must be provided by a

00:38:55.720 registered provider sorry um so that this is interesting this has shades of the leering

00:39:01.100 centers about it to be honest i think uh who can get free child care so to be eligible this is the

00:39:07.420 existing policy guys just to clarify to be eligible for free child care for working parents

00:39:11.940 you and your partner if you have one will need to be in work or about to start a new job you and

00:39:16.580 your partner will also need to earn over a certain amount you'll need national insurance number to

00:39:20.680 apply um so you can see it's an existing policy already it is costing us a lot of money and

00:39:27.780 they're like oh you know what actually um we we can spend another 15 billion pound

00:39:33.920 to people on benefits already yeah this is to then give them free child care whilst they're

00:39:42.180 already at home technically because the previous one's an employment one so what are we doing like

00:39:48.720 what is this so this is classic regulatory creep that that happens which is why the government

00:39:53.800 metastasizes out of all control so child care used to be a really easy thing i mean back when i was a

00:39:59.700 kid it was just um an aunts and grandmothers to child care um but for whatever reason boomers are

00:40:06.340 less keen on doing child care and so it's created a need for you know pushing it out and actually

00:40:12.940 years ago it was absolutely fine you just took your kid to a child care if he needed to go to

00:40:17.160 work and and they did it and then successive governments came along and said oh look well

00:40:21.680 we're going to have to impose standards we're going to set a minimum number of people per child

00:40:27.640 we're going to have to set a minimum number of qualifications we're going to need to make sure

00:40:31.600 there's somebody um who sends all day in the manager's office doing compliance documents for

00:40:36.500 us um we're going to need to up the um accounting uh requirements on you so it ends up the cost of

00:40:43.480 child care ends up expanding and expanding and expanding to the point where nobody can use it 0.97

00:40:47.560 anymore and then women start saying oh maybe i'm better off staying at home looking after my child 0.99

00:40:53.500 than paying for child care and then they're like oh shit um we need we can't have women looking 1.00

00:40:59.080 after their own children we need them paying paye so we need to find a way to encourage them to go 1.00

00:41:04.880 back to work so then they give the free child care for the working people so that they can 1.00

00:41:09.160 separate mothers from their children yeah and then that settles down for a few years and then 0.98

00:41:14.900 they're like oh hang on a minute we've got a benefit here how can we expand it oh we can just

00:41:20.040 give it to people who aren't working and and this is what happens at every single layer of the state

00:41:24.980 ever is they just is they is they create a problem they solve it with more money and then they expand

00:41:32.300 it if that can be expanded and it's just what they're doing it's mental the bureaucracy is

00:41:36.740 expanding to meet the needs expanding needs of the bureaucracy yeah yeah it's just no common sense i

00:41:43.060 mean so the existing uk system as we've just been through anyway one parent who are both in

00:41:47.560 employment uh it was not technically true actually so this says that only parents who are both in

00:41:52.740 employment are typically eligible it's not true we've just been on the government website um so

00:41:56.520 it covers nursery places for youngsters between nine and four but the education secretary is like

00:42:01.060 no actually uh people on benefits have been shut out from accessing it

00:42:05.460 why am i subsidizing people what why work why should i subsidize

00:42:15.460 why i just i don't i don't get the justification for outside of

00:42:20.600 obviously what you've just stipulated which i completely agree with it's an odd thing on the

00:42:24.840 face of it at first blush that people that aren't in work don't need your child care unless that's

00:42:31.660 the morning that they're having an interview yes right okay yeah that's fine okay if you actually

00:42:37.540 yeah or you have to go to the job center every couple of weeks to sign on or something but other

00:42:42.660 than that there's probably no you by definition you're at home there's probably not 30 hours of

00:42:48.020 interviews they're doing right 30 that's a lot as well when you first talked to me 30 hours a week

00:42:53.300 that's a lot that's a lot it's more than some people's uh contracted hours now because of

00:42:58.900 zero hours nonsense but so the current scheme costs us eight billion pounds a year

00:43:04.780 right right that's what it's going to cost it says thereby annually by 2028 eight billion

00:43:11.800 pound a year why don't you just tax people less so they've got more money

00:43:15.380 and stop regulating the care homes

00:43:19.520 so that they need all the extra staff

00:43:21.740 and the people up in the office doing all that.

00:43:24.580 Why can't we have the informal arrangements we used to have?

00:43:27.460 Well, if they extend it, that's going to cost 15 billion.

00:43:32.980 What?

00:43:34.100 From eight to 15 or an extra 15?

00:43:36.860 Well, up to 15 billion.

00:43:39.060 So presumably that's what it's going to be.

00:43:40.560 Yeah, but we're running a deficit now.

00:43:42.160 So where's the seven billion going to come from?

00:43:45.380 i don't know i don't know we're gonna tell me i never seem to adjust that just more borrowing

00:43:52.680 yeah just issue more and more guilt-edged bonds i suppose yeah right what else how else

00:43:59.160 they're trying to make out basically so this is what is gonna be that yeah her argument is

00:44:04.060 that it's early it's it's really important early years to learn these kind of things so they're

00:44:10.120 like well we know that around half all children from low-income families are missing out on

00:44:13.540 formal child care in early years there are families out there who can't afford quality

00:44:17.720 child care because they aren't working yeah that's how that works and they struggle to work

00:44:21.820 because they can't afford quality child care right okay cyclical so their children miss out

00:44:27.280 on quality early years education like what what are you doing like nine months to four years

00:44:32.960 what are you learning at nine months old to four years quality education they're not doing algebra

00:44:40.280 what are you learning so we did put our kids into child care but i think it was only for like

00:44:45.180 they come back with like picasso or something no but we only did it for like eight so we didn't do

00:44:50.060 it much we did it for like eight hours like one day and that was just to socialize them with other

00:44:53.580 kids yeah so that that i get yeah that makes perfect sense right the the interpersonal social

00:44:58.040 skills yeah that's smart but as far as i can tell all they did education and actually it kind of

00:45:04.120 shocked me because i'd go in there to pick up especially when they're quite young from the day

00:45:08.140 that we we put them in when the kids are really young you expect to see them playing with each

00:45:12.140 others but the young ones they're they're proper psychopaths they just ignore all the other kids

00:45:17.540 and they're all just trying to talk to the adult they just completely ignore the other kids so

00:45:21.760 that's weird and then when they get a little bit older they do start playing with each other a bit

00:45:25.560 but it's basically just showing the other one a teapot and then making the teapot do something

00:45:30.120 it's not i don't i don't know what's crucial about that well it's quality education mate

00:45:35.140 doing teapots i guess yeah your formal education learning to read or write the rudiments of maths

00:45:45.020 and things uh you're not doing that when you're under four really are you also certainly not when

00:45:51.640 you're nine months old to one two three years old you're just you're too young for anything like

00:45:56.160 that so you learn to do tie your shoelaces i guess we do that at home can't you learn to ride a bike

00:46:01.500 Yeah, you can do that at home as well.

00:46:03.380 Other than that, it's for older kids, really, isn't it? 0.96

00:46:07.620 Fundamentally, this is also just going to pay for foreigners as well. 0.74

00:46:11.160 Yeah.

00:46:11.420 But that's also important to note. 1.00

00:46:13.320 It is just foreigners. 0.96

00:46:14.200 And we know that because we know the demographics of birth rates. 0.97

00:46:18.320 And we also know the demographics of people that are net tax contributors.

00:46:23.920 I suppose, to be fair, if you've just arrived from Somalia,

00:46:26.600 it's quite difficult to be running through town trying to catch seagulls

00:46:29.200 and other wild animals in order to cook.

00:46:32.860 When you've got eight kids.

00:46:35.020 That is true.

00:46:36.080 Fundamentally giving out money we don't have, isn't it?

00:46:40.300 Yeah, yeah, 100%.

00:46:40.960 It's just spending beyond our means.

00:46:43.420 Yeah, it shouldn't be a case of can we extend this?

00:46:46.040 It should be how do we diminish this?

00:46:48.580 How do we stop doing this?

00:46:51.640 Taxes like this, you know, the insane levels of tax that we have

00:46:55.280 should be in a just world.

00:46:57.840 temporary should be like well we need to tax you for this because of this we're in this economic

00:47:02.860 state right now so we just need sorry we need to do this and it should just be finned if i can

00:47:07.640 quickly comment on that the the profile of our taxation versus our spending today most closely

00:47:13.800 matches a total war state like the first and second world war yeah and and obviously the

00:47:19.340 thing about that is that both of those world wars ended yeah and and then the tax ratio went back to

00:47:25.460 normal but since covid we've been doing it when there's not a war it's it's just what we do now

00:47:33.040 yeah never ending literally so when does that end it doesn't it's just going to run on until it

00:47:37.760 collapses well so that brings me nicely nice segue there dan labor's benefits reviewer says

00:47:44.340 current cost of health and disability handouts is not a great concern right so it's never going to

00:47:50.880 end but we've got like one in four people in this country are now apparently disabled

00:47:55.200 yeah

00:47:57.260 but also

00:47:58.440 even though

00:47:59.300 income tax

00:48:00.040 is lower

00:48:02.400 than

00:48:02.760 welfare bill

00:48:03.820 that's not a concern

00:48:04.860 apparently

00:48:05.980 was it

00:48:07.480 Tim's

00:48:08.140 wasn't it

00:48:08.820 talk about the history

00:48:10.800 I believe

00:48:11.360 income tax itself

00:48:12.940 I believe

00:48:14.080 that might have been

00:48:14.600 brought in by

00:48:15.120 the younger

00:48:16.000 during the

00:48:17.200 Napoleonic era

00:48:18.260 to pay for 0.93

00:48:19.280 the vast

00:48:19.820 expenditure

00:48:20.380 to deal with

00:48:22.580 the Corsican 1.00

00:48:24.480 monster 0.71

00:48:24.960 and it was supposed to be temporary and and and lo and behold here we are 220 years later

00:48:33.600 and it's way way way in orders of magnitude higher than it was ever supposed to be i think

00:48:38.820 there's a line of debt a line of debt that was also brought out for napoleonic wars that the

00:48:43.900 treasury is still paying and because it because it was done at a really low interest rate it was

00:48:48.420 done at like one and a half percent and so they just never paid it off because it was it was always

00:48:53.800 It's preferable to pay off something with a higher interest rate before it,

00:48:57.820 except in the really crazy bit after 2008 when interest rates basically went to zero.

00:49:03.840 Then I think it might have eventually been paid off.

00:49:06.020 But that had been running for like, yeah, 200 and whatever it was a year, 40 years.

00:49:09.820 That's the fundamental difference between them and a normal person like us.

00:49:14.320 Yeah.

00:49:14.980 Is that we eventually die.

00:49:17.220 Yes.

00:49:18.400 But they won't.

00:49:19.380 So Stephen Timms, this is this benefits reviewer.

00:49:24.620 Great, great economic mind.

00:49:27.040 Brilliant fiscal prowess, honestly.

00:49:29.680 Just really understands stuff.

00:49:31.680 So not the Labour guy then?

00:49:34.040 Yeah.

00:49:34.640 It's Labour.

00:49:35.420 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:36.060 It was sarcasm, mate. 1.00

00:49:37.980 He's an idiot. 1.00

00:49:39.020 Right. 1.00

00:49:39.740 It was sarcasm, setting it up.

00:49:41.260 Oh, I see.

00:49:41.880 Sarcastic, yeah.

00:49:42.560 I see.

00:49:42.980 Ruined it a little bit there, but no worries.

00:49:45.480 Give me a tread on the throats of your joke there.

00:49:47.420 Yeah.

00:49:47.980 Well, never mind.

00:49:48.500 So he played down the need for outright cuts to health and disability welfare,

00:49:52.860 despite warnings from the Tories that the government is in denial.

00:49:55.620 They obviously are.

00:49:56.700 But very clearly, most of these people are not actually disabled. 0.96

00:50:01.420 They're just playing the system. 0.98

00:50:02.600 Yeah, obviously, because they expanded.

00:50:06.140 Obviously, one in four people are not disabled. 0.75

00:50:09.480 Well, there's two things, right? 1.00

00:50:11.640 Either they are, right?

00:50:14.300 They're not.

00:50:14.960 But let's placate them.

00:50:17.580 Labour. 1.00

00:50:18.500 Let's placate these morons. 1.00

00:50:20.700 And yeah, okay, one in four people are disabled. 1.00

00:50:23.560 That's mental. 1.00

00:50:25.040 We need to fix that.

00:50:26.180 That's insane.

00:50:27.900 Why is there an epidemic of disability?

00:50:30.780 Yes.

00:50:31.100 Obviously, that's not the case,

00:50:32.320 but you would need to fix that as a society. 1.00

00:50:34.860 Why are so many people becoming dysgenic disabled people? 1.00

00:50:39.080 Like, what's going on? 1.00

00:50:40.160 I mean, obviously, Pakistanis would be a contributor for that. 0.99

00:50:43.400 But anyway, but obviously, it's not that.

00:50:46.400 It's the fact that they've expanded the criteria

00:50:48.460 and so people with, like, mild attention, whatever.

00:50:52.780 It absolutely exploded after COVID because during COVID,

00:50:56.700 doctors were basically told, don't say no to anything.

00:50:59.440 Yeah.

00:50:59.900 And so loads of people just rang up and they'd even need to be seen.

00:51:03.260 They just rang up and said, oh, yeah, I'm disabled.

00:51:05.120 Oh, what have you got then?

00:51:06.100 Oh, I don't know.

00:51:07.600 I'm a centaur or something or whatever.

00:51:09.240 Just make something up.

00:51:10.940 Or you just claim you've got a bit of anxiety.

00:51:13.160 Yeah, all that, yeah.

00:51:13.860 um because what i saw in the uh in the news cycle a few days ago or last week that

00:51:20.060 adhd had gone up 40 in one year epidemic of adhd then yeah like suddenly way way way more people

00:51:30.180 have got adhd no obviously the bar's been lowered and a whole bunch of people have realized they can

00:51:35.400 just say i'm suffering from adhd and the doctors say okay yeah sure you do here's handouts now

00:51:42.940 you don't have to work you we won't even require that you look for work that was that was the story

00:51:48.240 as well that it was 40 percent rise in the level of adhd where the state doesn't require you to

00:51:53.520 look for work anymore it's not just a doctor says okay yeah you have got very mild adhd

00:51:57.900 go away now no it's like oh yeah you're signed off from work yeah it's insane so this uh genius

00:52:06.000 said he believed that there had been a real increase in numbers suffering ill health and

00:52:12.020 disability since covid and that was showing through in claims well i guess there's two

00:52:16.000 things in that is one i thought there was something that everyone took that was gonna

00:52:20.060 mean that they're super healthy so that indicates that that's not the case

00:52:23.820 obviously um or two um that's just complete nonsense and you should probably clamp down

00:52:31.120 on that a little bit more but he's basically said yeah it's not a great concern actually this is not

00:52:35.680 a great concern at all uh so he investigated pip which is personal independence payments

00:52:42.020 So Pip is intended to help with everyday tasks and extra living costs.

00:52:46.340 If someone has a long-term physical or mental health condition or disability,

00:52:49.760 it is paid regardless of income or wealth, Dan.

00:52:53.620 Does that sound good to you?

00:52:56.760 Well, I'll apply then. 1.00

00:52:59.740 Are you disabled? 1.00

00:53:03.120 I must have something. 1.00

00:53:04.620 I'm slightly dyslexic.

00:53:06.540 Some people have said that I'm, what does the wife say, narcissistic.

00:53:10.920 so mental i might as well i mean if i don't the other new problem is that there is the danger

00:53:19.000 that i am literally the last person in this country who's not on welfare or three of us

00:53:23.320 are the last people in this country not on welfare yeah i'd wear that as a badge of honor

00:53:28.180 you're just like i need to get me some of that yeah well you just become king or something

00:53:32.500 at that point so and these numbers are uh staggering so spending on pip was around 15

00:53:37.860 billion in 2019 to 2020 uh risen to about 26 billion by 24 to 25 uh and is forecast to be over

00:53:46.160 41 billion by the end of the decade all right obr's watchdog estimated the overall spending

00:53:52.720 on health and disability benefits will rise from 76.9 billion in 2020 24 25 to 109.8 billion

00:54:02.560 by 2030 31 right so so we're on this trajectory but we're not going to do anything to change it

00:54:09.600 it's not a great concern even though we like we're in debt great and we can't make the sums

00:54:15.480 add up today yeah oh no yeah yeah mad so these numbers are just astronomical all of this is money

00:54:23.880 we don't have yep yeah yeah it's insane now obviously don't get me wrong people that

00:54:32.360 actually do have a disability through no fault of their own that actually can't work yeah i'm not

00:54:37.420 i'm not heartless i'm not one of these people that you know thinks a paraplegic should be

00:54:41.200 strapped to a checkout or something like that and forced to work i think i know a guy i know a guy

00:54:45.980 in a wheelchair and he works really hard as a school teacher no no but there are i mean i'm

00:54:50.220 just trying to say that there are some people that can't and it's through no fault of their own or

00:54:53.560 there's people that are veterans that are severely you know wounded and and yeah they they need the

00:54:59.200 arms of the state this state dependency is absurd it's absolutely absurd like those really bad

00:55:04.660 neurological conditions and stuff i mean that yeah that's really rough and stuff so accept that

00:55:08.740 that's fine yeah yeah yeah so i'm not against welfare wholesale but this the fact that it's

00:55:14.740 not means tested the fact that we're not only saying it's not a concern but we're i mean this

00:55:20.520 this is just two small segments of the welfare if you were to get into the granular detail of

00:55:25.200 everything that we spend it's insane we spend more on welfare um i mean this for instance the

00:55:31.040 109.8 billion i mean that's that's a third of uh defense spending isn't it like that's and that's

00:55:37.940 just on this on health and disability benefits we're gonna have a third of what is defense

00:55:44.900 spending by 2030 that's insane yeah yeah that's insane yeah yeah that's mental and the food that

00:55:51.180 they serve our servicemen is a disgrace yeah and the accommodation everything we can't even afford

00:55:57.920 to give them a decent meal yeah and yet yeah we can afford this yeah it's a complete inversion so

00:56:04.300 i just thought i'd highlight it and say hey this needs to be fixed obviously madness do you want

00:56:09.760 to do your commentary things uh yeah sure so let's have a look uh sigil stone says dan

00:56:17.760 jim crammer said to buy nvidia how over is it for ai and how soon should i sell well i know i know

00:56:24.820 we did a segment on friday how we did a segment on friday on ai being a bubble i mean there may

00:56:29.960 be local over exuberances in certain stocks but i don't think ai is a bubble so but on nvidia i

00:56:37.580 bought some of that at 70 i don't know what it is today about 200 or something and i still i'm still

00:56:41.640 going to hold it if that helps diamond hands didn't that jim cranmer guy isn't he famous for

00:56:47.340 like making the wrong call over and over and over and over again yeah is he cnn or cnbc or something

00:56:53.160 yes it's one of those isn't it and this is like the economist didn't see the credit crunch coming

00:56:58.620 that sort of thing that sort of level of complete incompetence yes another economic charlatan type

00:57:04.760 person i mean to be kind of fair he gives like five or six recommendations a day so a certain

00:57:09.480 number of them are going to be wrong but it does make me slightly worried about i don't follow him

00:57:13.380 i don't yeah that's what i've heard about him matthew c says i run 30 plus miles per week

00:57:18.240 plus five days in the gym nhs will not give me an op if i have a sports injury but will give a 0.65

00:57:23.340 morbidly obese bumali and a free hip replacement i pay i pay well over 20 grand a year in tax 0.78

00:57:29.340 yeah there's no justice in the world mate i i've said many times actually those that

00:57:34.320 But those that actually pay for the NHS are those that are least likely

00:57:41.000 to be able to access its benefits.

00:57:43.120 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:43.540 I do think that foreign people that come over here cynically, 1.00

00:57:47.400 literally get off the plane and then try and get something on the NHS, 1.00

00:57:51.600 like Olukemi Badenoch's mother,

00:57:54.300 I honestly think that is one of the scummiest things you can do. 1.00

00:57:58.140 That is scum. 0.99

00:57:59.260 It's fair. 1.00

00:57:59.520 It's filth to do that.

00:58:00.620 I also remember walking through London,

00:58:03.280 and I think I was walking past St. Thomas' Hospital

00:58:06.040 and right in front of me a taxi pulled up

00:58:08.880 and a huge Indian family got out

00:58:10.800 and they were carrying their suitcases

00:58:12.520 with literally the tag still on the suitcase

00:58:15.140 and walked straight into the hospital.

00:58:17.300 Of course they did. 0.99

00:58:18.260 Every single one of those is at the expense of a native Brit.

00:58:24.500 It actually is a zero-sum game. 0.63

00:58:27.140 That really is.

00:58:29.300 It's so unfair.

00:58:31.720 That's a random name.

00:58:32.440 says i've literally never learned a single thing in school i had to teach myself english at 12

00:58:36.080 years old because that's how bad our english classes are here in canada is well you're going

00:58:41.980 to be speaking urdu soon mate yeah um that's random name says slightly dyslexic that's to you

00:58:48.240 dan i don't know i've never had it like properly done or whatever now's your chance uh sidious

00:58:55.400 saying says my god these numbers are absolutely insane now let me check how washington spends my

00:58:59.800 money yeah yeah the u.s economy is even more the numbers are even more gigantic and unsustainable

00:59:06.220 if anything aren't they yeah but at least they make stuff we don't make anything they have a way

00:59:11.980 to to to i guess work their way out of it to a degree or at least they're better placed than we

00:59:17.340 are we don't make anything we don't produce anything there's no industry here at all

00:59:24.440 is it more like 40 trillion now the u.s deficit i think it's in the ballpark of 40 trillion

00:59:32.600 oh the debt yeah not the deficit sorry the debt sorry the debt national yeah yeah there's a

00:59:39.280 problem there all right all right so um since i've got you on lands we should ask about uniting the

00:59:45.640 right oh yeah you see pop up all the time don't you somebody will somebody will look at the numbers

00:59:51.020 and they'd be like okay well the tories their right wing and reform their right wing and restore

00:59:56.180 their right wing so let's add up these numbers oh my goodness that's quite a lot we could win

01:00:00.300 forever with that therefore why don't you do it yeah yeah and and actually this this was quite

01:00:05.820 striking i saw this from hector this morning um it's basically that this whatever it is find out

01:00:11.640 now they smoothed the polling noise because you know there's whatever it is a hundred different

01:00:17.060 pollster companies and it sort of darts around all over the place so they basically just took

01:00:21.600 a three-week average and smoothed it out and then hector added the date at which restore formed

01:00:26.500 so you can see that till line there it's yeah

01:00:30.940 kind of explains it all as to why nice to see it on a pole though isn't it yeah i mean reform have

01:00:40.020 just they've just lost their mojo since this happened because as soon as somebody got an

01:00:45.680 alternative that delivered what reform was supposed to be delivering they instantly went to it it's

01:00:50.980 interesting actually if you look at that so everyone took a dip at that point yeah the

01:00:54.920 conservatives took a dip um labor took a dip the only ones that increased were greens yeah even

01:01:02.840 lib dems took a well lib dems are just flatlined but that is interesting isn't it the conservatives

01:01:07.080 and labor dipped at that point uh the same i mean labor i think there'll be some people that were

01:01:13.260 voting for Labour that would have gone to Restore.

01:01:15.100 I definitely do think that.

01:01:17.000 Most of them would have gone to Greens, though, for sure.

01:01:20.560 So my question is,

01:01:22.740 is it a good idea to unite the right?

01:01:27.700 And what are your minimum requirements for doing it?

01:01:29.580 Are you talking about the concept of uniting the right?

01:01:32.240 Yes.

01:01:32.560 Or in real terms, right now, uniting the right?

01:01:34.640 Because those are different.

01:01:35.700 Well, take whichever one you want.

01:01:38.800 Well, conceptually, uniting the right is a smart move.

01:01:41.680 yes obviously it's a smart move right it's something which left-wingers have done time and

01:01:45.780 time again uh the world over and that's why they have great deals of political power yes so yes

01:01:51.500 in conceptually the right wing should unite yes uh in real terms can the right wing unite in britain

01:01:58.960 no not right now in future maybe but not right now you've got massive egos that will can can

01:02:09.920 cannot and will not be put to one side it's just incapable of it and that's right down from

01:02:15.280 the the sort of satellite joke parties you've got ukip that uh tenconi for instance what an 0.89

01:02:22.880 absolute just clown of a party that is is it still ukip is it is ukip isn't it clown of a pie yeah 0.68

01:02:28.140 just fold it mate what are you doing just fold it son what are you doing mate if anything but 0.97

01:02:33.700 spawning yeah well but he's not gonna he's not gonna put his ego to one side is it and then you

01:02:39.100 Ben Habib, I mean, he folded advance, but he did that with the express intention, or so I'm told, I've heard, allegedly, maybe, to try to sort of get some kind of, you know, sort of circumstantial element within Restore.

01:02:56.420 But that was all, that was ego as well.

01:02:59.060 So, yeah, and then you've got Rupert Lowe and the Mirage.

01:03:04.840 I mean, it's just not going to work, is it?

01:03:06.920 So, conceptually, yeah, great idea.

01:03:09.100 We would dominate.

01:03:11.080 We would absolutely obliterate and dominate if we united.

01:03:14.280 You're just not going to get it.

01:03:16.220 I sense Bo's been hiding his power levels.

01:03:18.480 No, Nate's right.

01:03:20.300 It is like corralling cats.

01:03:22.220 Very difficult.

01:03:22.880 I mean, one of the things Nate said there where the right is always fractured.

01:03:28.400 I mean, it's actually, I would say, it's not necessarily a left or right thing.

01:03:31.880 It's more like a human thing.

01:03:33.340 For example, it always used to be the case that the left were famous for endlessly fracturing.

01:03:40.020 I mean, there's the joke in Life of Brian, isn't there?

01:03:43.000 The People's Front of Judea.

01:03:44.400 The People's Judean Front.

01:03:46.280 In the West Wing, they make jokes about it, how every year the Republicans are solid and the Democrats is just one big infight.

01:03:54.760 It used to be much more between the wars, between World War II and after the war, that the left would endlessly fracture into more and more smaller communist socialist splinter groups.

01:04:07.980 So I actually don't think, broadly speaking, it's particularly a left or right problem.

01:04:13.500 Both wings suffer from it.

01:04:16.780 It's like trying to corral cats.

01:04:17.800 But as for uniting the right in Britain in the 2020s, yeah,

01:04:21.980 I dipped my toe into it.

01:04:23.400 I talked about it once or twice, tried to dip my toe in it,

01:04:27.040 try and, like, just tweet people that are, like, you know,

01:04:30.860 like, I don't know, Britain First, PA Advance, as it was, Homeland,

01:04:38.560 a number of these to try and just say, look, you could –

01:04:42.440 the thing I talked about or tried to talk about just to begin with was,

01:04:45.280 look you can all still have your own your own thing we'll just you'll just have some sort of

01:04:51.420 umbrella overarching umbrella you can still have your own chapter if you want to think of it as

01:04:55.320 like a chapter or you can still have your own family if you think about it the way um lucky

01:05:01.500 luciano did it but you're still your own crime family but we'll have some sort of overarching

01:05:06.900 the five families of yeah and you can keep all of that all of that identity all your own ideas

01:05:11.820 all your own internal policing everything but there will be some sort of overarching uh just a

01:05:17.980 very very light touch piece of governance over the top so we actually are at least at least

01:05:23.040 nominally under the same tent and we can all pull together in the same direction you can all still

01:05:27.620 have your own thing no no none of them wanted to do it none of them wanted to do it they're like

01:05:31.600 no i can't work with tommy no i can't work with steve lawyers no i won't work with uh um pa or

01:05:37.720 whatever uh mark collett no no no no yes so there you go it's like corral and cats they won't do it

01:05:43.680 but what won't do what what would that idea would look like would it say okay restore you can have

01:05:48.960 this section of the country and reform you can have this section of the country and advance

01:05:53.500 and the tories or whatever how what in your mind was that look like sorry say that again

01:05:58.000 in the first past the post system how would how would your idea work well i suppose you'd have

01:06:05.900 one overarching

01:06:07.180 party or organisation

01:06:08.940 that each of the

01:06:09.940 different sects

01:06:11.560 factions are

01:06:13.280 within

01:06:13.980 and I suppose

01:06:14.940 yeah it would be

01:06:15.780 like

01:06:16.200 say

01:06:16.980 Britain first

01:06:18.820 feels like they've got

01:06:19.740 a realistic chance

01:06:20.800 of winning in that

01:06:21.460 particular seat

01:06:22.240 so all the others

01:06:23.640 don't stand there

01:06:25.420 don't split the vote there

01:06:27.180 or

01:06:28.600 you get it?

01:06:29.960 But what happens

01:06:30.820 when they all say

01:06:31.640 yeah I want that one

01:06:32.700 and also that one

01:06:33.900 well then that

01:06:34.540 their leaders

01:06:35.540 the heads of the families can sit down just like lucky luciano go to a hotel somewhere

01:06:40.480 and the top dog sit down and divvy it up without going to war with each other that's what that's

01:06:46.280 what uh luciano did he said look all throughout the early late 19th century early 20th century

01:06:53.740 all the families just kept going to war with each other endlessly that's bad for business

01:06:59.320 so if and when there's going to be some sort of turf war happening in order to prevent that

01:07:04.560 we come in we sit down and we talk about it reasonably and divide it up and so we don't go

01:07:09.960 to war with each other and and then and then business flourishes and then we all win in this

01:07:15.340 case the business would be winning seats you know rather than extortion and gambling i can see the

01:07:21.560 problem but you see the parallel yes you just sit down and reasonably work it out and nominally

01:07:27.840 if nothing else are all under one umbrella yeah none of them were remotely interested in that i

01:07:34.920 think i can none of them i think i can immediately say someone i won't work with them i think they're 0.51

01:07:40.620 too sivnat they're too fnat on and on and on they're they're a tory boy nope they're a neo-nazi

01:07:45.280 nope and so i think i can see why that doesn't work i mean well it doesn't it clearly doesn't

01:07:52.060 It really doesn't.

01:07:53.280 But take the Tory graph.

01:07:54.320 High in the sky.

01:07:55.120 The Tory graph.

01:07:56.740 Camilla Tomlinson from the Tory graph.

01:07:58.940 Now, she got into trouble a little while back because she,

01:08:02.260 in fact, I'll play the clip.

01:08:03.580 She just thinks the grooming gang thing is funny.

01:08:06.220 I mean, I saw Rupert Lowe having an argument with a journalist

01:08:10.060 saying something on the lines of,

01:08:11.760 you need to ask Nigel that.

01:08:13.220 You need to ask Nigel that.

01:08:15.040 What about the rape gang?

01:08:16.160 It's all internal beef.

01:08:17.680 Yeah.

01:08:18.080 And I don't. 1.00

01:08:18.940 These two are scumbags. 1.00

01:08:20.980 They're absolute establishment shill scumbags. 1.00

01:08:24.680 I do listen to that. 0.98

01:08:25.260 He writes articles.

01:08:26.560 I watch them a little bit.

01:08:27.800 But he writes articles in The Telegraph all the time. 1.00

01:08:29.760 Nearly every take he has is bullshit. 1.00

01:08:33.320 Yeah. 1.00

01:08:34.040 Nearly every time.

01:08:35.360 But my point is,

01:08:37.340 this is probably the furthest right newspaper

01:08:40.220 that we have in Britain, The Telegraph.

01:08:42.220 It's pure subversion.

01:08:43.460 It's pure globalist subversion.

01:08:44.660 Yeah.

01:08:44.940 But let me come to my point.

01:08:46.280 So she was very dismissive about the grooming gangs

01:08:49.500 and loads of people

01:08:51.280 pointed that out

01:08:52.040 and then she had 0.99

01:08:52.980 an absolute meltdown

01:08:55.080 at people.

01:08:56.280 Did she?

01:08:56.800 Yeah.

01:08:57.580 What was her argument?

01:08:58.900 Well, basically because

01:09:00.060 that really stung

01:09:01.620 that people were saying,

01:09:02.760 look, you're making fun

01:09:03.340 of the grooming gang.

01:09:04.320 Because it's true, isn't it?

01:09:05.280 Yeah.

01:09:05.900 How are you going to spin it?

01:09:07.060 And so she went into a meltdown

01:09:08.360 and she went down 0.76

01:09:09.420 into a meltdown 1.00

01:09:10.040 attacking everybody.

01:09:12.460 What's the context?

01:09:14.280 Yeah, no, that's not my point.

01:09:15.700 Oh, right.

01:09:16.060 What I'm going with here

01:09:17.300 is one of the meltdown things was this.

01:09:21.240 Of course, we know we're taking the clips out of context

01:09:22.960 and distorting things, blah, blah, blah.

01:09:25.140 It's because the Telegraph has exposed the abject racists

01:09:29.420 backing the store.

01:09:30.660 So this is my actual point, right?

01:09:33.440 Racism.

01:09:34.140 Say it with me, everyone.

01:09:35.560 Wacism.

01:09:36.180 Yes, it's all racism.

01:09:37.900 And this is the most right-wing Tory graph paper that we have.

01:09:42.980 and all she all she's got on the brain is racism racism racism don't be racist don't be right it's

01:09:50.240 they cannot break out of that right so moral cowardice is what it is so i don't know whether 0.90

01:09:55.460 her personal politics are tory or reform the point is they can't break out of racist racist

01:10:02.940 that's all they can think actually a rejection of reality as well well and moral cowardice is

01:10:08.520 quite literally and i just will ignore reality and and this is and this is why your thing can't

01:10:13.460 work because let's say you ever tried to unite with the tories or or actually most of reform

01:10:18.820 really when you got people like that in it because they're of course they're not going to unite with

01:10:23.720 steve laws or and she i mean here she's saying the right and tommy or even rupert even rupert

01:10:29.540 i mean she's actually talking about the abject racists at restore so of course they're never

01:10:35.340 going to do it they're never going to unite with anyone one inch to their right because they have

01:10:40.140 been trained to think their whole life that the moment you start to advocate for low enough taxes 0.99

01:10:45.380 and border security the next thing you know you're invading poland yeah yeah yeah they can't think 0.98

01:10:52.860 beyond that you can't have a cap on immigration because the next thing is that there's death 0.89

01:10:58.180 camps oh no it's mad isn't it yes it's mad it's a madness and and so the whole right has been

01:11:05.080 trained no matter where you are on the right you personally are the furthest possible acceptable 0.65

01:11:11.860 answer and and and of course nigel does this in in reform as well i mean we we both got chucked

01:11:18.720 out of reform for advocating things that he wasn't ready to say yet and yet later i i certainly know

01:11:25.660 in my i mean you said a bit more stuff than me because there was something about ironbrew in

01:11:29.380 there or something forget i forget the details now but but certainly the thing that i got kicked

01:11:33.120 out reform for was in the reform manifesto page three like just a couple of years later

01:11:39.500 well the things the article i wrote which hope not hate picked up on an entire deselected me

01:11:45.740 immediately within hours of being shown that robert jenrich's gone further than that now

01:11:51.100 robert jenrich said things

01:11:54.540 yeah but you can't get ahead of the curve that's all yeah but you can't be no yeah you're not

01:12:00.860 That is the crime, isn't it?

01:12:02.760 Yeah, you can't be ahead of the curve on this stuff.

01:12:04.840 So, but I mean, that kind of brings me back

01:12:06.760 to my original question, though,

01:12:08.380 which I was going to go, oh, yeah.

01:12:10.080 And just to commit, if you're watching,

01:12:12.620 this is why we haven't got racism on the brain.

01:12:15.440 We're getting to the point now where,

01:12:18.080 look, this guy's just doing a news report 0.52

01:12:19.900 and migrant crime is now so rife in Europe. 1.00

01:12:24.120 The chances of you catching it on live TVs. 1.00

01:12:26.140 Yes.

01:12:26.600 Like you're just going to.

01:12:28.440 He's just filming on the beach about the weather.

01:12:30.260 At every shoulder. 1.00

01:12:33.840 Yeah, some migrant stills are...

01:12:36.000 Yeah, but no, it's got to be racism.

01:12:43.840 A hundred times a day.

01:12:45.420 Anyway, coming back to my original point,

01:12:47.700 what are our minimum criteria

01:12:49.720 for actually uniting the right?

01:12:52.680 What do you mean exactly what you're asking?

01:12:54.700 What's your line in the sand?

01:12:56.240 What's your...

01:12:57.040 If I'm going to do a deal with you,

01:13:00.260 At a minimum, I need this and this and this.

01:13:03.140 Demographics.

01:13:03.780 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:04.520 Mine is demographics.

01:13:06.780 All right.

01:13:07.920 Because demographics are destiny. 0.88

01:13:09.960 Are you for or against us being demographically replaced

01:13:13.560 and ultimately destroyed in our one and only ancestral homeland?

01:13:18.060 That's it.

01:13:18.940 That's kind of it.

01:13:21.060 Everything else you can sort of work out.

01:13:23.040 Everything else is downstream of that.

01:13:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:25.560 Do you want to see us as a people that is a racial and ethnic element

01:13:29.820 to our national identity.

01:13:31.180 Do you want us to be erased or not?

01:13:33.080 Yes.

01:13:35.180 I mean, I think mine would be one,

01:13:38.700 fully tackle the rape gangs.

01:13:42.420 Look into it historically and going forward.

01:13:44.660 Yeah.

01:13:45.140 Including bringing prosecutions.

01:13:46.480 You're not wrong, but I mean,

01:13:47.120 that would be downstream of getting our demographic

01:13:49.280 back to like the prior 90s or something.

01:13:51.500 I think for me that is a minimum requirement.

01:13:53.780 It's a bit like, I mean, from Camilla's point of view, 0.82

01:13:57.180 imagine the Holocaust had just happened. 0.85

01:13:59.820 and nobody wanted to look into it or do anything about it you can imagine why for camilla that 0.93

01:14:05.000 would be a that would be a minimum requirement for me the re dealing with the rape gangs is a

01:14:10.780 minimum requirement and the second one is what you said which is acknowledge that the native british

01:14:17.220 are the people and commit to a process of and i'm not even going to put a a minimum number on it but

01:14:26.920 but commit to a process a remigration in favor of the native people so if somebody with the

01:14:33.880 surname jones or smith from new zealand or merica or something wants to immigrate here that's fine

01:14:38.540 as long as they've got english ancestry but don't import more people who don't have english

01:14:43.960 ancestry and don't make up the night don't make up the numbers by getting young british lads

01:14:50.000 to give up and go abroad,

01:14:52.480 you have to have a look at what the ethnicity is

01:14:56.680 in the immigration stats

01:14:58.020 and make sure that there is an outflow of non-natives.

01:15:02.960 So have we all come to the same conclusion? 1.00

01:15:04.360 I mean, apart from the rape gang thing. 0.61

01:15:06.740 Well, no, I completely agree with you.

01:15:08.060 Okay.

01:15:08.660 Of course.

01:15:09.700 Okay.

01:15:10.560 But, I mean, was it that simple?

01:15:14.540 Yeah, but we're not.

01:15:16.320 But it was that simple for us to agree

01:15:18.520 what the minimum entry criteria for a deal is.

01:15:21.420 Yeah, but again, we're not egotistical.

01:15:24.280 I mean, there's a subject in from Siglestone

01:15:26.260 that says, quoting me,

01:15:28.680 sit down and reasonably work it out,

01:15:30.360 and then he's laughing, effing lol.

01:15:34.280 I mean...

01:15:35.140 If the mafia could do it...

01:15:36.840 I was going to say, yeah.

01:15:39.060 If the...

01:15:39.940 It is actually possible.

01:15:42.820 Well, it should be.

01:15:43.900 I mean, put it another way,

01:15:44.740 there's nothing in the laws of physics

01:15:46.300 preventing it from happening.

01:15:47.320 But what's the motivator for the mafia?

01:15:50.640 Financial gain and power.

01:15:52.400 What's the motivator for a lot of politicians?

01:15:54.740 I mean, yeah, long term, some of it's finances, some of it's power,

01:15:59.560 but there's also other things in the ideology.

01:16:02.480 A lot of it can be completely ideologically bound.

01:16:04.880 The motivating power should be for the British right.

01:16:08.600 No, no, I agree.

01:16:09.400 It should be because we look staring down the barrel of extinction. 0.99

01:16:13.860 yeah but you how do you really can't reason that with someone like rich uh dick ties 0.90

01:16:19.560 right who who doesn't care i'll be long gone yeah he'll be longer i'll be long gone so 0.93

01:16:25.200 you can't that's not the motivating factor always think of a dog right always think of a dog what

01:16:32.620 is their motivation is it uh owner affection is it is it dog treats like what is it you've got

01:16:39.500 to think about what motivates they like owner affection but food does beat it some dogs don't

01:16:44.320 care about owner affection at all okay it's about understanding my point is food is always higher

01:16:50.040 again sometimes no genuinely it's about understanding kind of pointless segue but

01:16:55.980 for politicians it's like well what is the motivating factor that you could get them

01:17:00.080 to actually sit around a table and agree agree on things for you'd have to understand there

01:17:06.320 You just have to understand them inside out.

01:17:08.360 Because it's not like the mafia have a unifying thing

01:17:10.000 that they're all trying to...

01:17:11.360 They're all trying to make money.

01:17:12.320 They're all trying to make money.

01:17:13.120 So it's really easy just on that basis to be like,

01:17:15.020 right, this is interrupting our money.

01:17:16.760 Let's sit down and have a chat about it.

01:17:17.520 Well, that's the problem, though,

01:17:18.660 because the right used to be concerned.

01:17:20.960 If you did the version of our experiment 20 years ago,

01:17:25.120 for the right, it would have been easy.

01:17:26.540 Oh, we want GDP to go up.

01:17:29.220 That would have been the thing that they all said.

01:17:30.840 As long as GDP goes up, you know, you can be on our team.

01:17:34.020 and that's why the conservatives were such a big church at the time until the conservatives came

01:17:38.780 to the conclusion the way to make gdp go up was to bring in as many immigrants as humanly possible

01:17:44.680 and and now we can't be in a deal with them and then you got reform who like to pretend 0.99

01:17:50.560 but they're going to lower immigration and maybe they will but they're not going to do anything

01:17:56.200 about the fact that it's already here and the birth rate is already going to replace us even if

01:18:02.100 literally even if literally not you build a wall around the entire country and let no one else in 0.76

01:18:08.940 we're still going to get replaced unless you do remigration so so this is this is my thing 0.59

01:18:14.420 edgington asked nigel about that yes and i just said he wasn't concerned about it yeah doesn't

01:18:19.460 matter that's why i could never ever uh support reform if i was in reform at that point i would

01:18:27.340 leave at that point yes yeah that's a deal breaker how is that not a deal breaker for people

01:18:33.680 like raw egg nationalist or whatever whoever whoever anyone that's still with reform how is

01:18:39.440 that not a deal breaker for you what are you doing yeah yeah quite so i think what we're finding is

01:18:46.960 look intellectually we acknowledge uniting the right would be a great idea they would but the

01:18:53.060 problem is is that most of the right doesn't meet our minimum criteria which is demographic security

01:18:58.140 so which you think was i mean it's the bare minimum that most people on the right should

01:19:03.140 agree agree to yes there's a lot of people that fake right that's why i say reform isn't right

01:19:08.740 yeah look at what i just said about demographics look at what about he said about uh islam can't

01:19:13.780 alienate islam look at what ty said about i won't be here yeah how is they right wing yeah they're

01:19:19.080 not right wing well and that's before we even get started on the tories all right yeah well

01:19:23.620 they're completely not even centrist are they really the conservative party i mean they've

01:19:29.640 got an anchor baby as their leader so i think i think i think this is what brings me to why i

01:19:35.620 think the approach would restore is to not not spend too much time worrying about uniting the

01:19:40.800 right is to point out to everybody get the message across to everybody that there is literally only

01:19:46.240 one right-wing party.

01:19:48.340 A realistic one.

01:19:49.620 Yeah.

01:19:50.660 And all the rest

01:19:51.820 are left-wing parties.

01:19:53.340 That's why I don't buy

01:19:54.260 the paradigm

01:19:54.700 that you're splitting the vote

01:19:55.680 by voting for restore somewhere

01:19:57.020 where reform might win

01:19:58.080 and keep Labour out,

01:19:59.820 that you're splitting the vote

01:20:00.980 by voting restore.

01:20:02.900 No, you're not splitting anything.

01:20:04.460 There's the globalist parties

01:20:05.780 and the one party

01:20:06.500 that isn't globalist.

01:20:07.440 Yes.

01:20:08.140 So you're not splitting anything.

01:20:10.160 Yeah.

01:20:11.500 I'll take a look at the comments.

01:20:14.960 Hmm.

01:20:16.240 yeah you've done the

01:20:22.500 Siglestone one

01:20:23.400 the mafia sat down 0.90

01:20:26.360 and worked it out

01:20:26.920 and then went into government

01:20:27.820 how come your previous comment

01:20:29.280 was saying that

01:20:29.900 they couldn't do that

01:20:31.660 I think he's just saying

01:20:32.820 that government in general

01:20:33.820 I don't think he's saying

01:20:34.880 actual Italian

01:20:35.980 Sicilian mafiosos

01:20:37.100 became the government 0.54

01:20:37.800 although

01:20:38.060 yeah

01:20:38.740 that's a random name

01:20:41.160 the mafia could do it

01:20:42.360 because they are

01:20:42.860 fundamentally serious people

01:20:44.360 they don't tackle grooming 0.77

01:20:46.160 gangs by having africans singing jerusalem will only get sold by serious people um co

01:20:53.600 seven seven seven six the idea of good morals is something that just pops out of the ether is

01:21:00.260 insane good morals require high qi presumably iq high iq is genetic morals are genetic you cannot

01:21:08.740 have low iq people adopting good morals and matthew says i'm beyond caring about olive

01:21:15.820 branches are uniting. If you're not with a straw, you're

01:21:17.880 against them. Whether it's due

01:21:19.800 to soy boy centrism or your ego,

01:21:22.160 you need to get out of the way.

01:21:23.660 Thank you. Do you have any video comments?

01:21:25.940 Take.

01:21:30.760 Do you have any video comments,

01:21:32.540 Samson? Is there any one?

01:21:36.080 Oh, better be a good one.

01:21:43.060 It's loading.

01:21:44.460 We're waiting.

01:21:45.820 Japan's immigration woes in yesterday's segment reminded me of an old mech anime called

01:21:56.100 Gassaraki. You see, some of the subplots include a right-wing nationalist coup to overthrow

01:22:01.500 the globalist government and getting rid of violent illegal immigrants. Using mechs. No 0.54

01:22:06.880 hyper-woo anime tropes in this series, thank god. Fairly realistic mech design, too.

01:22:11.840 I'd like a mech suit

01:22:14.920 It'd be cool

01:22:16.520 You've seen the film Robot Jocks

01:22:18.100 An 80s film

01:22:19.000 Where there's giant mech warriors

01:22:20.840 They're like the size of a 10, 15 story building

01:22:23.360 And one guy sits in the head

01:22:24.860 And like rigged up so that if he does this

01:22:27.860 The giant 10 story mech does it

01:22:29.980 That might be impractical

01:22:31.140 I mean just the petrol costs alone

01:22:33.020 Don't go confusion

01:22:35.680 Right

01:22:36.620 Comments of the people 0.99

01:22:38.780 uh all right tard maxing for more tax uh ap says uh gary bloody it is bloody hot in here yeah 0.70

01:22:50.320 samson can we can we turn the screens off at the moment we finished before before lads hour 0.65

01:22:58.080 because i am cooking as we are no i can do that for you yes i can also the air con turned off

01:23:03.560 Yeah, the air conditioning, it just turned off.

01:23:06.460 I'll tell you what, you guys read some comments.

01:23:08.600 I'm going to start the air conditioning before I die.

01:23:11.880 It's that hot.

01:23:16.960 All right, do you want to read some or I'll read some?

01:23:18.840 Yeah, AP says,

01:23:20.140 Gary claims to be a trader and economist,

01:23:23.460 but does not understand compound growth.

01:23:25.400 This is the biggest red flag of a fraudster

01:23:27.100 and is the reason most scams work.

01:23:29.000 A small wealth tax is a massive tax on growth over time.

01:23:31.560 and S&P grows 7%, 10% a year,

01:23:34.820 halving that would be catastrophic

01:23:37.100 and generate only tiny revenue per year.

01:23:39.740 Yep.

01:23:40.360 I really don't know much about that, Gary,

01:23:42.720 his actual background and everything,

01:23:43.980 but he just, from the small amount I've seen,

01:23:48.920 well, again, there's no evidence

01:23:51.160 that he seems to know what he's talking about.

01:23:54.520 Like, just once or twice,

01:23:55.720 just mention some actual theory,

01:24:00.040 some actual economic theory

01:24:01.280 I've never seen that

01:24:03.700 but then I haven't

01:24:04.660 watched hours of him

01:24:05.580 so

01:24:05.860 Sigil Spain

01:24:06.940 sent in a super chat

01:24:08.020 taking the piss out

01:24:08.840 of 0.88

01:24:09.040 Dan's shorts

01:24:10.940 John Cena

01:24:13.800 yeah

01:24:16.760 the shirt and blazer

01:24:18.780 with shorts combo

01:24:21.060 I literally can't make

01:24:29.160 the left one work

01:24:30.640 i'm gonna try the right one oh great well the right's best so uh annie moss

01:24:35.280 says thanks dan for introducing this gary guy to the audience i'd never heard of him

01:24:40.480 after this i know gary and logic are estranged

01:24:43.680 you'll do some others completely divorced from each other yeah uh what's the next one

01:24:50.000 infinite infinity benefits and beyond and beyond uh annie moss again says the government wants uh

01:24:58.880 childcare for young children because the brainwashing is more likely to work if you get them young

01:25:03.580 it's true isn't it um michael dribelbis dribelbis says here in uh new york in the usa uh we have a

01:25:16.500 working families party which is very few actual working families but a lot of benefit benefit

01:25:21.300 parasite families 0.94

01:25:22.320 it's funny that

01:25:24.600 classic

01:25:26.040 Jimbo G

01:25:27.420 says

01:25:28.040 G I wonder where

01:25:29.360 all these extra daycare 0.76

01:25:30.480 workers are going

01:25:31.060 to come from

01:25:31.640 yeah

01:25:32.780 right

01:25:34.180 self perpetuating

01:25:35.160 thing

01:25:35.520 I did get the

01:25:37.080 air conditioning

01:25:37.600 going

01:25:38.020 but I might have

01:25:38.860 broken something

01:25:39.560 so

01:25:40.120 lummox

01:25:42.820 big galop

01:25:45.300 well

01:25:45.940 have you actually

01:25:47.820 broken the

01:25:48.340 video wall

01:25:49.280 probably not

01:25:50.180 don't worry about it

01:25:50.780 There's no signal, it's just a plug, probably.

01:25:53.120 Don't worry about it.

01:25:53.760 What have you done?

01:25:54.400 It'll be right.

01:25:54.820 What have you done?

01:25:55.440 It'll be right.

01:25:56.660 It'll be right.

01:25:58.660 Okay.

01:25:59.240 Yeah, don't worry about it.

01:26:01.060 The important thing is the air con is on.

01:26:03.100 Arizona Desert Rat says, 1.00

01:26:04.740 I think part of the increase in people with disabilities

01:26:08.560 is due to kids not learning how to care, 0.98

01:26:12.040 not learning how to...

01:26:14.560 Is that care?

01:26:15.900 Call.

01:26:16.960 Not learning how to call with things

01:26:19.120 that make them feel

01:26:20.420 uncomfortable

01:26:21.040 that sows the seeds

01:26:22.580 of anxiety

01:26:23.160 and childhood

01:26:23.660 I mean maybe

01:26:26.940 that could be an element

01:26:28.000 to it

01:26:28.380 our producer is looking

01:26:29.300 very concerned

01:26:29.980 don't worry

01:26:30.540 if I broke it

01:26:31.360 I'll be able to fix it

01:26:32.680 you've broken it

01:26:34.940 no I haven't

01:26:35.720 I'd be able to fix it

01:26:36.600 it's not working mate

01:26:37.880 I mean

01:26:38.360 for god's sake

01:26:39.460 that's a default

01:26:40.260 looks like you broke it

01:26:41.940 that's a default firing

01:26:43.480 you're going to be fired

01:26:45.740 that's a

01:26:47.300 that's a whole new video wall 50 grand they are 50 grand a piece they are

01:26:52.540 unite the right you know think positive says in germany the firewall has proven incredibly useful

01:26:58.420 for the base of the afd because it prevents the less steadfast more liberal members of the afd

01:27:03.400 from working with our cuck servitives therefore delaying it so long that they will only

01:27:08.940 to come to us when they're so weak that they will be forced to give away

01:27:14.280 to give way to all the things that we really want one of them on oh got both of them on good man

01:27:21.920 omar awad says if you can't define what what a citizen or national is along the lines of ethnicity

01:27:27.860 you are functionally left-wing anything else is a matter of to what degree we need to act to

01:27:33.600 preserve it fair thing to say derrick power master of chippies says how i see politics

01:27:43.120 is I know what I want

01:27:44.620 and what I don't want.

01:27:47.760 Thus, I'd rather have less of what I want

01:27:49.620 and more of what I don't want.

01:27:52.560 Did I read that right?

01:27:53.680 Thank you.

01:27:53.960 Which one are we on now?

01:27:54.520 I get the point anyway.

01:27:55.480 I get the point.

01:27:56.320 Sorry.

01:27:56.720 Which one are we on now?

01:27:57.640 The final one.

01:27:58.720 Ooh.

01:27:58.900 The final one.

01:28:00.880 Right.

01:28:04.400 Did you read the last one?

01:28:06.340 Warlord Wutu Tyre says,

01:28:09.320 I read a lot of Facebook comments

01:28:11.980 and people are crying out for a united right a lot of people wanted it and a lot of people would

01:28:17.540 like it it does in my experience it boils down to the leader of the parties whether it's

01:28:23.340 whoever it is i shouldn't really name names but you all know who they are

01:28:27.700 right it comes down to would you sit down with all the other people and one or two of them to

01:28:35.180 be fair when i reached out one or two of them would say yeah yeah i'd sit down with more or

01:28:40.020 anyone you know everyone from curtain to paul golding to all these people yeah would you sit

01:28:46.820 down and a few of them say yeah yeah i would but most of them just say no just say no that guy

01:28:52.520 doesn't believe a core thing that i believe so i'll never sit down with him even though we agree

01:28:57.020 on 90 of stuff you know like well the classic thing tommy versus steve law is classic they

01:29:04.760 despise each other so bad i'm not actually this isn't having a popper either tommy or steve

01:29:09.260 it's just an example they would not they would not pull in one direction for like 70 of the

01:29:15.500 public they're indistinguishable they they agree on a great deal of things but

01:29:19.920 on the fundamental a couple of absolutely fundamental things they will will never ever

01:29:26.420 agree yeah and so you go i mean for me personally if if they were able to if others were able to

01:29:36.780 I would sit down with any person, within some reason,

01:29:41.160 any person that takes on board that paradigm of the demographics

01:29:46.780 of destiny, that needs to be.

01:29:48.980 I don't care if they're an ex-Lib Dem voter.

01:29:51.860 I don't care.

01:29:53.240 Anyway.

01:29:54.000 But it's only Restore and the SDP, if you think like that.

01:29:58.960 Anyway, we've run out of time.

01:30:01.180 We will be back in this hot, sweaty room for Lads Hour

01:30:04.300 in half an hour.

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01:30:18.220 where you talk about

01:30:19.620 if movies are good

01:30:20.400 yeah check out

01:30:21.220 are movies good

01:30:21.960 some are actually

01:30:23.480 okay well

01:30:24.540 tune in to find out

01:30:25.420 which ones

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 10, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1459

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