The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1459
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Summary
The Lotus Eaters are joined by State of Politics' own Bo and Nate to discuss a variety of topics, including the loss of a member of staff, why men don't have nipples, benefits, and the disappearance of Gary Stevenson.
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Hello and welcome to Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, it is episode 1459, it is Friday the
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10th of July, Year of Our Lord 2026, and I'm joined by the state of politics, Bo and Nate.
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Yeah, we were going to have Nick on, but at the very last minute he cancelled, so, and
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I hope he's alright, because he lives in London, so he might have actually been mugged.
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hopefully it's something fine like he discovered that the internet has porn or something or
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or got a playstation or whatever around now is that Ebola's going around again I hope it's not
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that I don't know this hashtag pray for Nick yeah not or not as possible was that um yeah so um so
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so Bo is joining us but he doesn't have a second but I very very very quickly wrote a segment in
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about two minutes and anyone who does YouTube will know this watch that segment get like three or
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Just offered this information to the world.
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But no, I have been wondering, why do men have nipples?
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It's just left over from being a mammal, isn't it?
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There's various parts on the human anatomy which we don't use, do we, right?
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I mean, you actually know all about anatomy, don't you?
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yeah although there is some there was some more thought about potentially that almost being it
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was a remnant but could potentially be used for future evolution as well now that's yeah so in
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the future is out basically in the future my nipples might become useful yeah maybe right
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yeah in the the who knows mate who knows about the cock six it's like something left over from
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having a tail when we have tails there's various because we're evolution hasn't finished is it we're
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still oh yeah so anyway oh i look forward to that maybe like a million years and it will be
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incredibly useful for some particular thing all right anyway um yeah with that um we're going to
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be talking about um i do apologize we're going to be talking about gary stevenson yes um benefits
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and oh and i already said deny unite the right i think i said that so anyway let's stop waffling
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biscuit on with something right so i i don't like talking about gary stevenson but i kind of have to
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because today everybody wants to talk about gary stevenson i thought he'd gone away now he's
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suddenly all over the internet again no last few days no he's he's he's a bit like an std he just
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just comes back even when you think you're beating it so actually that was a bad analogy i'm gonna
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Anyway, so for those of you who don't know him,
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Samson did tell us not to use the naughty words.
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uh you don't he basically does these videos uh where he thinks he's the absolute master of
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economics um i'll show you okay so the first thing i want to say is usually well always i do this
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video with these videos with no scripts and my philosophy basically is if you really really
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understand the thing really well you you don't need a script you can just come on explain the
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as clearly as possible and and that will be the best way to educate an audience so before so i
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mean there you go so he's kind of of the view that he he knows everything so perfectly he never does
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any research never looks into things he just he just knows all there is to know on his fake
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working class kitchen set piece because that is a set yeah i mean the basic story behind the guy is
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Is he grew up on, like, some council estate as a poor guy,
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like four to a bedroom, kind of walking uphill in the snow to school,
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And then he became a trader and he made lots of money in trading.
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And he made a load of money and then got fired.
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Has he got any formal training or education in political economy?
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Oh, I think he might have gone to LSE or something like that.
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But basically, when he was a trader, he had one idea.
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Now, I'm pretty sure that the reason he made money
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was because he got the direction of interest rates right
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But because he had the wrong theory as to why it was happening,
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and therefore it just turned against him one day.
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I've only ever seen a few clips of him that whenever they go viral,
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here or there, I've never actually watched much of his
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or any real of his content, but I've seen a dozen clips or whatever.
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But I know it's a bit lame to be maybe an intellectual gatekeeper
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but if you're talking about something really quite serious like economics
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you do want to know you're listening to someone
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They've spent years being formally trained in that thing.
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So do we know he actually knows anything about economics or not?
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Has anyone asked him about Adam Smith or something?
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Well, funnily enough, I might have some evidence of that.
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But according to him, he is a world-leading expert.
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So, I mean, I gave you what he's like when he's on his own.
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He kind of sits up and he does this really bored thing.
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Like, he's so, oh, I'm having to explain something so simple to you.
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and it's so boring for me to have to explain for the umpteenth time
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A bit like if you were trying to explain, I don't know,
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if you go to bed with an itchy bottom, you wake up with a smelly finger,
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whatever it is, something incredible, whatever it is.
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Okay, drinking water then, whatever it is, you have to drink water every day.
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as more than three times the wealth of the world's richest man.
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And just two weeks ago, we had a man go through $1 trillion.
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These guys are growing their wealth at 40%, 50% a year, Tom,
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in economies that are growing 1% or 2% a year if we're lucky.
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If you do not stop that, mathematically, I guarantee you,
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which means ordinary British families own nothing.
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I.e., you want to stop their ability to be that wealthy,
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or do you just want to tax them more on the wealth that they're gaining
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I want to stop their ability to grow that wealth quickly.
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Listen, if you've got cancer, you need to stop that cancer from growing.
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No, if they are growing their wealth at 50%, in economies that are growing 1%,
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then everyone else in that economy has to lose an enormous amount of wealth every year.
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Just like Keir Starmer, I want the magic growth fairies to come down.
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But you need wealthy people to continue to be wealthy.
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fundamental misunderstanding yes okay but the next bit is more illuminating as to what he thinks
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in order for the wealth tax to generate any i'm not trying to generate income i'm not this is not
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about generating income this is about protecting the ability of ordinary british men and women to
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own wealth to own their own home to not be poor now this is about a chip on his shoulder about
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ultra wealthy people that's what this is about it seems to me yes spiteful resentful
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And then you've got whatever amount of money you've got
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and that actually does grow all the time as well
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But actual wealth is the amount of goods and services
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and inventing new things and building new things
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is you want Elon Musk's wealth to increase 100% every year,
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not 50% of you, because it means the amount of goods
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and services are getting bigger, and you want everybody
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understand that it's the second half of the equation.
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just don't understand. Like, I'd love him to apply
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Yeah, original left-wing economics was, let's not import anybody
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because they'd be competing for our wages.
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He doesn't know what the hell he's talking about at a fundamental level.
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So he just sits there with that Simeon Browridge coming up with his...
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there's a reason, sorry to interrupt, there's a reason why
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it's a fundamental misunderstanding of a thing that he's
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10 billion pounds and paid nothing. Do you think that's fair? That's not true.
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Okay, why is it not true? Because the Duke of Westminster is one of the highest taxpayers
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in the country. What does he pay? Well, on the trust, the Grosvenor estate,
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they don't pay inheritance tax because trusts can't die. They pay something called periodic
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taxes, which is 6% every 10 years. So they pay 0.6% a year. So I paid 60% and this guy
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pays 0.6%. Apples with apples. Inheritance tax is 40% across the course of your life
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if a person lives who owns a trust for 70 years,
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Well, if he's going to live, he has to withdraw money to have his income.
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Let me give you a list of all the taxes he would pay.
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He pays any of the other taxes, VAT when he spends money.
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All the same taxes apply to a Duke as they apply to anybody else.
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So you think he pays income tax on the income on that?
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OK, well, I've been going to search whether he pays income tax on his income.
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Gary is just refusing to believe that he pays all of these taxes.
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I was going to say, the Duke of Westminster isn't above the law.
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He seemed to be arguing that the Duke of Westminster is exempt from taxes.
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There was a very funny auto-transcribe error in there,
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are a legal person under the law, but they never die,
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and therefore you can't charge them inheritance tax,
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and therefore you charge them a trust tax instead.
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And Gary clearly thought that was instead of everything else.
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And even when he's being explained it to me, it explained it.
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That will all be born out of, again, having a chip on his shoulder.
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Again, a classic sort of socialist commie thing that it's old money,
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very, very old money that's passed down through families,
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that that's fundamentally the problem with society is that and that must be broken and
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destroyed at all costs whenever you find it and it's just bullshit yeah i mean it goes back to
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the fundamental left-wing problem which i described is they can't and they don't see the other half of
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the equation they don't see the bundle of goods and services growing so he can't imagine wealth
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being created and therefore when he thinks about the duke of westminster he just thinks oh he
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inherited that money that was stolen and that and that's it that that's the only thing you can
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possibly do with money is get it from other people and the reason the left think that rich people are
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rich is because they stole because they think in the natural state of nature everybody's got the
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same amount of money yeah he's on the he's on the scrooge mcduck level of economics yes that's what
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he believes every rich person is just scrooge mcduck in their wealth every night yes that's
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When Marx and Engels wrote their political economy
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in the mid-19th century, it was such a different world, right,
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where you did have giant families and aristocracies
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That's not what Elon or the Duke of Westminster is doing, though.
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And also, Elon doesn't have a trillion dollars.
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No, he has assets which other people have placed a notional value on
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Also, the assets are business, which is a wealth creator giving wealth
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I said on the breakfast show, Breakfast with Bo, I said,
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what would be super cool, though, if Elon did sell everything he owned
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Wouldn't that be truly like Bond villain level badass?
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Actually had bank accounts with a trillion dollars in them.
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I mean, from an investment point of view, that would be utterly disastrous.
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But still, with a 12-year-old's brain, that's cool.
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There is value to buying up every one-ounce gold coin in the world.
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Well, like Goldfinger actually owning most of the world's bullion privately.
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Except if a leftist saw that swimming pool of gold.
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because they think, like you say, in the Scrooge McDuck terms,
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expecting to just come up the other side or something.
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but he decided to do a documentary on Channel 4.
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And the weird thing is he's getting bodied by the left as well.
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And bear in mind, if he's going to get a favourable view anywhere,
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I like the fact that they're recognising that this new push
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and it has the exact opposite results to what they want
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The net amount that any given treasury takes will go down
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Ultra-rich people, they're the exact type of people
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And they've been doing that under Labour on just the notion
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Well, they've been doing it throughout history.
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Since the ancient world, if you're being taxed too much
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and you've got enough wealth and power to just move to somewhere
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where you're not being taxed that heavily, then people do.
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You just go and live in Monaco or Luxembourg or Texas.
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I'm just thinking where's the bit where she's like really nailing him um yeah the first thing
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is that Stevenson is not an appealing presenter he has an adolescent bullishness about him
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um that comes across badly on screen raises a sort of fight or flight response in the viewer
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instead of encouraging engagement the strident idealism infuses his speech and style is hard
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enough to take uh from the young where where it at least belongs but sits less well on a 39 year
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old adults should have the confidence the experience and the wisdom that offers more
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and that's the thing he just keeps his solution to everything that's from a guardian writer and
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that's from the guardian okay yeah i mean no lies detected really he's sort of i mean no one's
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perfect but yes his sort of physicality is odd isn't it yes yeah he's quite dysgenic
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someone said do you think it's is it is he a recovering drug addict i don't know i don't i'm
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Aren't those sort of mannerisms and physicality
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the result of having been addicted to some very serious drugs?
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I'm genuinely asking in good faith, I don't know.
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He may have a degenerative sort of cognitive order.
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but yeah like the shakes the shifting the eyes darting you know that sort of thing yeah it's
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very much addict behavior it's something which you would correlate quite strongly with an addict
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i i mean you're being kinder than i am he really strong i can't say what i actually think he really
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strongly reminds me of a pg tips advert from the 80s that's it's the taste yeah
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is it the brow line if you know you know if you know you know um
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anyway uh so yeah he i haven't watched the interview yet uh i will watch it and i'll
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probably do a broconomics on it because as much as i hate seeing his face and and people tell me
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all the time all the time i'm getting comments saying oh you should have gary stevenson on it's
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like what would be the point the most unproductive thing ever it'd be a literal waste of my time the
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audience's time there's there's nothing useful to come out of that but i keep getting asked all the
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time and that's why it irritates me so much very few people genuinely irritate me he does anyway
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so he's done this interview and he spoke to somebody and i think needle is a bit leftist
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actually yeah yeah he is um but he does actually know tax really well and so of course he he he
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starts grabbing these sort of lefties that you can have these these conversations with um but but i
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needle is again it just just isn't having this nonsense so i'll play a bit of this
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is that saying it's a non-starter the forward says an annual wealth tax is a non-starter let
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me ask you a question someone invests in the uk a foreigner invests in the uk do you charge wealth
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tax on their uk investments if they're incredibly wealthy i say yes okay but then why is someone
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very wealthy going to make an investment in the uk rather than say france if they're going to have
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And I think it's very possible that if you have a wealth tax,
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it will make it less attractive for foreign investors.
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But I think that what we can do is improve the wealth ownership
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And we can have the investments in by British people that.
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So suddenly you're creating a massive incentive
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for foreign private companies and foreign wealthy people
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In fact, the effect of a wealth tax has been modelled.
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Wealth tax is less significant than the wealth tax you're proposing.
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They're estimated a hit to long-run GDP of between 2% and 5%.
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You were just completely blithely dismissing the idea
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And I'll tell you right now what's going to happen.
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If you were a proper economist, you would have thought about the foreign investment.
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Why haven't you thought about the foreign investment?
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Why do you think I haven't thought about it, Dan?
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Because there's no evidence you ever thought about it.
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When I asked you that question, you were thinking about it for the first time.
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I would like to see someone ask him some pretty simple questions about, I don't know,
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just to see if he, just the basics, not really grill him,
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but just, like, have you read much economics, political economy?
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Has anyone ever done that? I would like to see that.
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The way he's so insistent, I mean, I don't call myself a proper economist.
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I'm interested in economics and I talk about economics,
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but I don't sit there all day like some city bank reading economic reports
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and reading non-farm payrolls. I just don't do it.
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So I would never call myself a proper economist.
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I mean, I say it to people like if I meet somebody, you know,
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picking up my kids from school and they say, what do you do?
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You know, whatever else I have to put out the bag to try and explain.
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I've always been saying that from day one of history, bro.
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Some people say, oh, you think you're a historian,
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or perhaps if you've published a number of books,
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maybe then can you describe yourself as a proper economist.
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If you haven't done those things, then you're not.
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Being a proper economist or even a proper historian is really boring
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because you spend all day long going through boring source material.
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You know, just sitting there at a library going through like 4,000 references
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but you know i i wouldn't enjoy reading economic reports but yeah he's absolutely insistent he is
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anyway moving on um what else so go away gary how do i make gary shut up gary on wealth of above
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oh there we go samson did it right um what else have i got oh yeah so that dan needle bloke he
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was talking i mean it's quite quite interesting what you said you said look i don't often talk
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about you know personal things but for a start um as soon as he as soon as he met gary um he
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started attacking him for having deleted a tweet that criticized him and then deleting other
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people's tweets what yes what and any well and he says yeah i was a bit confused i couldn't
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remember ever leaving a tweet um and you can't delete other people's tweets you just can't do
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it but but stevenson felt that that had happened and like with all of his economic theory if he
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feels it then it's true right so why have you been going around deleting other people's tweets about
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me can't do that yeah i mean that that's an example so there to talk about economics or
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twitter which one also like what this is the guy from the clip what a what an incredibly fragile
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thing to do that's one of the first things you say to someone that you're interviewing for your
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own documentary why'd you delete some tweets about me what yes what we what what we're doing
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here um anyway then he finds the tweet and says look it's still up actually uh and and oh yeah
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and and actually this is the same point i made the other strange thing about the interviews how
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many times steven said he was the world leading expert on inequality this is not what experts
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tend to do it made me uncomfortable and suspicious like odd gaps in his knowledge like he said the
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house price has been falling real terms over the last 10 years when i don't call myself a proper
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economist but i knew that um but again he just wouldn't accept it just like he would not accept
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that is that is true yes what and and why and why would you assert the opposite if you haven't even
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looked at the data it's just like he refused to accept the fact that the duke of westminster
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pays income tax yeah i don't think he i don't think he pays income i'd have to look into that
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But ultimately, I think this clip from Idiocracy
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is going to explain really kind of what's going on
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because in Gary's mind, have you seen Idiocracy?
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In Gary's mind, he's the smart one explaining to the dumb people.
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But in reality, he's the dumb person explaining to the smart person.
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to talk about idiocracy briefly he would not get out of the way this time he would lead
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for the last time i'm pretty sure what's killing the crops is this brondo stuff the brondo's got
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what plants crave it's got electrolytes so wait a minute what you're saying is that you want us to
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put water on the crops yes water like out the toilet well i mean it doesn't have to be out
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of the toilet but but yeah that's the idea but brondo's got what plants crave it's got electrolytes
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okay look the plants aren't growing so i'm pretty sure that the brondo's not working now i'm no
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botanist but i do know that if you put water on plants they grow well i've never seen no plants
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grow out of no toilet hey that's good you sure you ain't the smartest guy in the world yeah
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okay look you want to solve this problem i want to get my pardon so why don't we just try it
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But Stevenson reckons that he's so much smarter than us
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So dumb that you fail to appreciate how dumb you are.
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But here's the immensely worrying thing about all of it.
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rather than i mean i hate taxes and i hate handouts which we'll get to in my segment
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this is the thing it's them believing that they're owed it's that um green eyes of envy
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yes this is unbecoming and it subjugates you to but but like if we look at his channel what has
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he got like 1.6 million subscribers 77 of the british public that that's the problem with
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somebody like gary is he he could just sit there without knowing anything at all and say a thing
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70 of the public are like yeah that sounds really good 1.6 million subscribers it's like fat people
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want a tablet just to make you lose weight people don't understand that these things like
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yes people just want to go the easy route and so it's whatever you know obviously even if it
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doesn't work yes well i'll just go just take whatever it's the easy thing so just do that
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but the actual answer is much more complicated
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to argue no it doesn't work we then need to start
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pulling out okay here are the historical examples
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here's why it doesn't work and here's why the mechanism's
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people won't even listen to that even if he did
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battle with stuff like that which is really unfortunate
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Spearhead the Peahound and the Spastic Mechanic
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that can't coherently put sentences together
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with the green says uh he sees one number bigger than the other and it's all he can process yes
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it's there are other groups do that don't they uh fallen firebird says i genuinely despise
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gangster uh accented leftoids like gary because you know he's only made viral by poncy middle
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class twats using as a token working class mascot to prove their socialist credentials
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yes i noticed that um oh um that that really annoying podcast with the guy who started the
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war and the guy who looks like an old lady with aids oh golem with late stage aids yes yeah yeah
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um rory stewart yes yes rory stewart goes on his podcast quite a lot okay oh brilliant there's
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everything and and the other one really likes him as well alice there um sack o possum what a nice
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surprise slaphead the minge hound and mctraps the fanny magnet oh and that guy guessed who
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hosts the breakfast show that one time is that complimentary i'll take it these these are from
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our sunday live shows i'm just going to read that again in my head okay i'm i'm gonna have
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to ruminate on that one a bit um and logan says uh some of us uh need a pill uh yeah are you a lady
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logan not sure what that's in reference to anyway all right shall we talk about benefits britain
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and the infinity benefits for everyone i guess uh so just a few that i just want to have a chit
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chat about our sort of state dependency on welfare and the fact that it's never ending
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Did I hear that there are now more people taking out of the system
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The welfare bill is higher than the income tax bill for starters as well.
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The thing is, if you make a point as simple as that,
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you'll always have somebody on Twitter who will come back up,
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oh, government finances are nothing like household finances,
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is that a treasury won't, should die like a trust.
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they will give you 100 years, 200 years to pay it back.
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Well, provided the coupon is worth something to them,
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The point is, yeah, if you spend way above your means,
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It will eventually default like Russia did in the 90s.
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Yeah, so, well, that's kind of the conversation that...
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You can't go on spending way more than you get in indefinitely.
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Well, that's kind of the topic here, to be honest.
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That's what I wanted to talk about is that we are effectively on the precipice
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or in already a doom loop where the welfare bill is so high,
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the benefits bill is so high, income tax is still low,
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but they're going to obviously try and tax more.
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That's obviously the inevitable end goal, but you're going to get less tax,
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but the welfare bill will still go up because, of course,
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every time that they do this, which has been proven
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just over the list of Labour governments anyway, they cut jobs.
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Right. For instance, you know, national insurance went up. So employers just fired a bunch of people.
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They were like, we're not paying that. See you. And so you get more people on welfare.
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And then it's just this endless, endless cycle. I mean, good that you're on this panel today, Dan, for this.
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And it started with this. This caught my eye earlier in the week.
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And there's two things I wanted to talk about with this.
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So Education Secretary Bridget Philipson has called for families on benefits to be given 33 hours of childcare a week.
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So for those suggesting that, well, people on benefits work, this is for the unemployed.
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uh children must be provided by a registered provider child care must be provided by a
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registered provider sorry um so that this is interesting this has shades of the leering
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centers about it to be honest i think uh who can get free child care so to be eligible this is the
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existing policy guys just to clarify to be eligible for free child care for working parents
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you and your partner if you have one will need to be in work or about to start a new job you and
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your partner will also need to earn over a certain amount you'll need national insurance number to
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apply um so you can see it's an existing policy already it is costing us a lot of money and
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they're like oh you know what actually um we we can spend another 15 billion pound
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to people on benefits already yeah this is to then give them free child care whilst they're
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already at home technically because the previous one's an employment one so what are we doing like
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what is this so this is classic regulatory creep that that happens which is why the government
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metastasizes out of all control so child care used to be a really easy thing i mean back when i was a
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kid it was just um an aunts and grandmothers to child care um but for whatever reason boomers are
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less keen on doing child care and so it's created a need for you know pushing it out and actually
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years ago it was absolutely fine you just took your kid to a child care if he needed to go to
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work and and they did it and then successive governments came along and said oh look well
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we're going to have to impose standards we're going to set a minimum number of people per child
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we're going to have to set a minimum number of qualifications we're going to need to make sure
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there's somebody um who sends all day in the manager's office doing compliance documents for
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us um we're going to need to up the um accounting uh requirements on you so it ends up the cost of
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child care ends up expanding and expanding and expanding to the point where nobody can use it
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anymore and then women start saying oh maybe i'm better off staying at home looking after my child
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than paying for child care and then they're like oh shit um we need we can't have women looking
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after their own children we need them paying paye so we need to find a way to encourage them to go
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back to work so then they give the free child care for the working people so that they can
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separate mothers from their children yeah and then that settles down for a few years and then
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they're like oh hang on a minute we've got a benefit here how can we expand it oh we can just
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give it to people who aren't working and and this is what happens at every single layer of the state
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ever is they just is they is they create a problem they solve it with more money and then they expand
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it if that can be expanded and it's just what they're doing it's mental the bureaucracy is
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expanding to meet the needs expanding needs of the bureaucracy yeah yeah it's just no common sense i
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mean so the existing uk system as we've just been through anyway one parent who are both in
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employment uh it was not technically true actually so this says that only parents who are both in
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employment are typically eligible it's not true we've just been on the government website um so
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it covers nursery places for youngsters between nine and four but the education secretary is like
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no actually uh people on benefits have been shut out from accessing it
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why am i subsidizing people what why work why should i subsidize
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why i just i don't i don't get the justification for outside of
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obviously what you've just stipulated which i completely agree with it's an odd thing on the
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face of it at first blush that people that aren't in work don't need your child care unless that's
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the morning that they're having an interview yes right okay yeah that's fine okay if you actually
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yeah or you have to go to the job center every couple of weeks to sign on or something but other
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than that there's probably no you by definition you're at home there's probably not 30 hours of
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interviews they're doing right 30 that's a lot as well when you first talked to me 30 hours a week
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that's a lot that's a lot it's more than some people's uh contracted hours now because of
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zero hours nonsense but so the current scheme costs us eight billion pounds a year
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right right that's what it's going to cost it says thereby annually by 2028 eight billion
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pound a year why don't you just tax people less so they've got more money
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and the people up in the office doing all that.
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Why can't we have the informal arrangements we used to have?
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Well, if they extend it, that's going to cost 15 billion.
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So where's the seven billion going to come from?
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i don't know i don't know we're gonna tell me i never seem to adjust that just more borrowing
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yeah just issue more and more guilt-edged bonds i suppose yeah right what else how else
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they're trying to make out basically so this is what is gonna be that yeah her argument is
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that it's early it's it's really important early years to learn these kind of things so they're
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like well we know that around half all children from low-income families are missing out on
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formal child care in early years there are families out there who can't afford quality
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child care because they aren't working yeah that's how that works and they struggle to work
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because they can't afford quality child care right okay cyclical so their children miss out
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on quality early years education like what what are you doing like nine months to four years
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what are you learning at nine months old to four years quality education they're not doing algebra
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what are you learning so we did put our kids into child care but i think it was only for like
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they come back with like picasso or something no but we only did it for like eight so we didn't do
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it much we did it for like eight hours like one day and that was just to socialize them with other
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kids yeah so that that i get yeah that makes perfect sense right the the interpersonal social
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skills yeah that's smart but as far as i can tell all they did education and actually it kind of
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shocked me because i'd go in there to pick up especially when they're quite young from the day
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that we we put them in when the kids are really young you expect to see them playing with each
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others but the young ones they're they're proper psychopaths they just ignore all the other kids
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and they're all just trying to talk to the adult they just completely ignore the other kids so
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that's weird and then when they get a little bit older they do start playing with each other a bit
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but it's basically just showing the other one a teapot and then making the teapot do something
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it's not i don't i don't know what's crucial about that well it's quality education mate
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doing teapots i guess yeah your formal education learning to read or write the rudiments of maths
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and things uh you're not doing that when you're under four really are you also certainly not when
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you're nine months old to one two three years old you're just you're too young for anything like
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that so you learn to do tie your shoelaces i guess we do that at home can't you learn to ride a bike
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Other than that, it's for older kids, really, isn't it?
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Fundamentally, this is also just going to pay for foreigners as well.
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And we know that because we know the demographics of birth rates.
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And we also know the demographics of people that are net tax contributors.
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I suppose, to be fair, if you've just arrived from Somalia,
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it's quite difficult to be running through town trying to catch seagulls
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Fundamentally giving out money we don't have, isn't it?
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Yeah, it shouldn't be a case of can we extend this?
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Taxes like this, you know, the insane levels of tax that we have
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temporary should be like well we need to tax you for this because of this we're in this economic
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state right now so we just need sorry we need to do this and it should just be finned if i can
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quickly comment on that the the profile of our taxation versus our spending today most closely
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matches a total war state like the first and second world war yeah and and obviously the
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thing about that is that both of those world wars ended yeah and and then the tax ratio went back to
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normal but since covid we've been doing it when there's not a war it's it's just what we do now
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yeah never ending literally so when does that end it doesn't it's just going to run on until it
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collapses well so that brings me nicely nice segue there dan labor's benefits reviewer says
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current cost of health and disability handouts is not a great concern right so it's never going to
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end but we've got like one in four people in this country are now apparently disabled
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and it was supposed to be temporary and and and lo and behold here we are 220 years later
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and it's way way way in orders of magnitude higher than it was ever supposed to be i think
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there's a line of debt a line of debt that was also brought out for napoleonic wars that the
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treasury is still paying and because it because it was done at a really low interest rate it was
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done at like one and a half percent and so they just never paid it off because it was it was always
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It's preferable to pay off something with a higher interest rate before it,
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except in the really crazy bit after 2008 when interest rates basically went to zero.
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Then I think it might have eventually been paid off.
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But that had been running for like, yeah, 200 and whatever it was a year, 40 years.
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That's the fundamental difference between them and a normal person like us.
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So Stephen Timms, this is this benefits reviewer.
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Give me a tread on the throats of your joke there.
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So he played down the need for outright cuts to health and disability welfare,
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despite warnings from the Tories that the government is in denial.
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But very clearly, most of these people are not actually disabled.
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Obviously, one in four people are not disabled.
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And yeah, okay, one in four people are disabled.
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but you would need to fix that as a society.
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Why are so many people becoming dysgenic disabled people?
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I mean, obviously, Pakistanis would be a contributor for that.
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It's the fact that they've expanded the criteria
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and so people with, like, mild attention, whatever.
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It absolutely exploded after COVID because during COVID,
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doctors were basically told, don't say no to anything.
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And so loads of people just rang up and they'd even need to be seen.
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They just rang up and said, oh, yeah, I'm disabled.
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um because what i saw in the uh in the news cycle a few days ago or last week that
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adhd had gone up 40 in one year epidemic of adhd then yeah like suddenly way way way more people
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have got adhd no obviously the bar's been lowered and a whole bunch of people have realized they can
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just say i'm suffering from adhd and the doctors say okay yeah sure you do here's handouts now
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you don't have to work you we won't even require that you look for work that was that was the story
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as well that it was 40 percent rise in the level of adhd where the state doesn't require you to
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look for work anymore it's not just a doctor says okay yeah you have got very mild adhd
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go away now no it's like oh yeah you're signed off from work yeah it's insane so this uh genius
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said he believed that there had been a real increase in numbers suffering ill health and
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disability since covid and that was showing through in claims well i guess there's two
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things in that is one i thought there was something that everyone took that was gonna
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mean that they're super healthy so that indicates that that's not the case
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obviously um or two um that's just complete nonsense and you should probably clamp down
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on that a little bit more but he's basically said yeah it's not a great concern actually this is not
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a great concern at all uh so he investigated pip which is personal independence payments
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So Pip is intended to help with everyday tasks and extra living costs.
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If someone has a long-term physical or mental health condition or disability,
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it is paid regardless of income or wealth, Dan.
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Some people have said that I'm, what does the wife say, narcissistic.
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so mental i might as well i mean if i don't the other new problem is that there is the danger
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that i am literally the last person in this country who's not on welfare or three of us
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are the last people in this country not on welfare yeah i'd wear that as a badge of honor
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you're just like i need to get me some of that yeah well you just become king or something
00:53:32.500
at that point so and these numbers are uh staggering so spending on pip was around 15
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billion in 2019 to 2020 uh risen to about 26 billion by 24 to 25 uh and is forecast to be over
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41 billion by the end of the decade all right obr's watchdog estimated the overall spending
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on health and disability benefits will rise from 76.9 billion in 2020 24 25 to 109.8 billion
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by 2030 31 right so so we're on this trajectory but we're not going to do anything to change it
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it's not a great concern even though we like we're in debt great and we can't make the sums
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add up today yeah oh no yeah yeah mad so these numbers are just astronomical all of this is money
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we don't have yep yeah yeah it's insane now obviously don't get me wrong people that
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actually do have a disability through no fault of their own that actually can't work yeah i'm not
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i'm not heartless i'm not one of these people that you know thinks a paraplegic should be
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strapped to a checkout or something like that and forced to work i think i know a guy i know a guy
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in a wheelchair and he works really hard as a school teacher no no but there are i mean i'm
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just trying to say that there are some people that can't and it's through no fault of their own or
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there's people that are veterans that are severely you know wounded and and yeah they they need the
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arms of the state this state dependency is absurd it's absolutely absurd like those really bad
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neurological conditions and stuff i mean that yeah that's really rough and stuff so accept that
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that's fine yeah yeah yeah so i'm not against welfare wholesale but this the fact that it's
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not means tested the fact that we're not only saying it's not a concern but we're i mean this
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this is just two small segments of the welfare if you were to get into the granular detail of
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everything that we spend it's insane we spend more on welfare um i mean this for instance the
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109.8 billion i mean that's that's a third of uh defense spending isn't it like that's and that's
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just on this on health and disability benefits we're gonna have a third of what is defense
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spending by 2030 that's insane yeah yeah that's insane yeah yeah that's mental and the food that
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they serve our servicemen is a disgrace yeah and the accommodation everything we can't even afford
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to give them a decent meal yeah and yet yeah we can afford this yeah it's a complete inversion so
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i just thought i'd highlight it and say hey this needs to be fixed obviously madness do you want
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to do your commentary things uh yeah sure so let's have a look uh sigil stone says dan
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jim crammer said to buy nvidia how over is it for ai and how soon should i sell well i know i know
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we did a segment on friday how we did a segment on friday on ai being a bubble i mean there may
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be local over exuberances in certain stocks but i don't think ai is a bubble so but on nvidia i
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bought some of that at 70 i don't know what it is today about 200 or something and i still i'm still
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going to hold it if that helps diamond hands didn't that jim cranmer guy isn't he famous for
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like making the wrong call over and over and over and over again yeah is he cnn or cnbc or something
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yes it's one of those isn't it and this is like the economist didn't see the credit crunch coming
00:56:58.620
that sort of thing that sort of level of complete incompetence yes another economic charlatan type
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person i mean to be kind of fair he gives like five or six recommendations a day so a certain
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number of them are going to be wrong but it does make me slightly worried about i don't follow him
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i don't yeah that's what i've heard about him matthew c says i run 30 plus miles per week
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plus five days in the gym nhs will not give me an op if i have a sports injury but will give a
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morbidly obese bumali and a free hip replacement i pay i pay well over 20 grand a year in tax
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yeah there's no justice in the world mate i i've said many times actually those that
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But those that actually pay for the NHS are those that are least likely
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I do think that foreign people that come over here cynically,
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literally get off the plane and then try and get something on the NHS,
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I honestly think that is one of the scummiest things you can do.
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and I think I was walking past St. Thomas' Hospital
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Every single one of those is at the expense of a native Brit.
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says i've literally never learned a single thing in school i had to teach myself english at 12
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years old because that's how bad our english classes are here in canada is well you're going
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to be speaking urdu soon mate yeah um that's random name says slightly dyslexic that's to you
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dan i don't know i've never had it like properly done or whatever now's your chance uh sidious
00:58:55.400
saying says my god these numbers are absolutely insane now let me check how washington spends my
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money yeah yeah the u.s economy is even more the numbers are even more gigantic and unsustainable
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if anything aren't they yeah but at least they make stuff we don't make anything they have a way
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to to to i guess work their way out of it to a degree or at least they're better placed than we
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are we don't make anything we don't produce anything there's no industry here at all
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is it more like 40 trillion now the u.s deficit i think it's in the ballpark of 40 trillion
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oh the debt yeah not the deficit sorry the debt sorry the debt national yeah yeah there's a
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problem there all right all right so um since i've got you on lands we should ask about uniting the
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right oh yeah you see pop up all the time don't you somebody will somebody will look at the numbers
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and they'd be like okay well the tories their right wing and reform their right wing and restore
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their right wing so let's add up these numbers oh my goodness that's quite a lot we could win
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forever with that therefore why don't you do it yeah yeah and and actually this this was quite
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striking i saw this from hector this morning um it's basically that this whatever it is find out
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now they smoothed the polling noise because you know there's whatever it is a hundred different
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pollster companies and it sort of darts around all over the place so they basically just took
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a three-week average and smoothed it out and then hector added the date at which restore formed
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kind of explains it all as to why nice to see it on a pole though isn't it yeah i mean reform have
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just they've just lost their mojo since this happened because as soon as somebody got an
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alternative that delivered what reform was supposed to be delivering they instantly went to it it's
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interesting actually if you look at that so everyone took a dip at that point yeah the
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conservatives took a dip um labor took a dip the only ones that increased were greens yeah even
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lib dems took a well lib dems are just flatlined but that is interesting isn't it the conservatives
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and labor dipped at that point uh the same i mean labor i think there'll be some people that were
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voting for Labour that would have gone to Restore.
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Most of them would have gone to Greens, though, for sure.
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And what are your minimum requirements for doing it?
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Are you talking about the concept of uniting the right?
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Or in real terms, right now, uniting the right?
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Well, conceptually, uniting the right is a smart move.
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yes obviously it's a smart move right it's something which left-wingers have done time and
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time again uh the world over and that's why they have great deals of political power yes so yes
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in conceptually the right wing should unite yes uh in real terms can the right wing unite in britain
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no not right now in future maybe but not right now you've got massive egos that will can can
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cannot and will not be put to one side it's just incapable of it and that's right down from
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the the sort of satellite joke parties you've got ukip that uh tenconi for instance what an
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absolute just clown of a party that is is it still ukip is it is ukip isn't it clown of a pie yeah
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just fold it mate what are you doing just fold it son what are you doing mate if anything but
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spawning yeah well but he's not gonna he's not gonna put his ego to one side is it and then you
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Ben Habib, I mean, he folded advance, but he did that with the express intention, or so I'm told, I've heard, allegedly, maybe, to try to sort of get some kind of, you know, sort of circumstantial element within Restore.
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So, yeah, and then you've got Rupert Lowe and the Mirage.
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We would absolutely obliterate and dominate if we united.
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I mean, one of the things Nate said there where the right is always fractured.
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I mean, it's actually, I would say, it's not necessarily a left or right thing.
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For example, it always used to be the case that the left were famous for endlessly fracturing.
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I mean, there's the joke in Life of Brian, isn't there?
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In the West Wing, they make jokes about it, how every year the Republicans are solid and the Democrats is just one big infight.
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It used to be much more between the wars, between World War II and after the war, that the left would endlessly fracture into more and more smaller communist socialist splinter groups.
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So I actually don't think, broadly speaking, it's particularly a left or right problem.
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But as for uniting the right in Britain in the 2020s, yeah,
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I talked about it once or twice, tried to dip my toe in it,
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try and, like, just tweet people that are, like, you know,
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like, I don't know, Britain First, PA Advance, as it was, Homeland,
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a number of these to try and just say, look, you could –
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the thing I talked about or tried to talk about just to begin with was,
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look you can all still have your own your own thing we'll just you'll just have some sort of
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umbrella overarching umbrella you can still have your own chapter if you want to think of it as
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like a chapter or you can still have your own family if you think about it the way um lucky
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luciano did it but you're still your own crime family but we'll have some sort of overarching
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the five families of yeah and you can keep all of that all of that identity all your own ideas
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all your own internal policing everything but there will be some sort of overarching uh just a
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very very light touch piece of governance over the top so we actually are at least at least
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nominally under the same tent and we can all pull together in the same direction you can all still
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have your own thing no no none of them wanted to do it none of them wanted to do it they're like
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no i can't work with tommy no i can't work with steve lawyers no i won't work with uh um pa or
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whatever uh mark collett no no no no yes so there you go it's like corral and cats they won't do it
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but what won't do what what would that idea would look like would it say okay restore you can have
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this section of the country and reform you can have this section of the country and advance
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and the tories or whatever how what in your mind was that look like sorry say that again
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in the first past the post system how would how would your idea work well i suppose you'd have
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the heads of the families can sit down just like lucky luciano go to a hotel somewhere
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and the top dog sit down and divvy it up without going to war with each other that's what that's
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what uh luciano did he said look all throughout the early late 19th century early 20th century
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all the families just kept going to war with each other endlessly that's bad for business
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so if and when there's going to be some sort of turf war happening in order to prevent that
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we come in we sit down and we talk about it reasonably and divide it up and so we don't go
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to war with each other and and then and then business flourishes and then we all win in this
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case the business would be winning seats you know rather than extortion and gambling i can see the
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problem but you see the parallel yes you just sit down and reasonably work it out and nominally
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if nothing else are all under one umbrella yeah none of them were remotely interested in that i
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think i can none of them i think i can immediately say someone i won't work with them i think they're
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too sivnat they're too fnat on and on and on they're they're a tory boy nope they're a neo-nazi
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nope and so i think i can see why that doesn't work i mean well it doesn't it clearly doesn't
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Now, she got into trouble a little while back because she,
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She just thinks the grooming gang thing is funny.
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I mean, I saw Rupert Lowe having an argument with a journalist
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They're absolute establishment shill scumbags.
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But he writes articles in The Telegraph all the time.
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So she was very dismissive about the grooming gangs
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Of course, we know we're taking the clips out of context
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It's because the Telegraph has exposed the abject racists
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And this is the most right-wing Tory graph paper that we have.
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and all she all she's got on the brain is racism racism racism don't be racist don't be right it's
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they cannot break out of that right so moral cowardice is what it is so i don't know whether
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her personal politics are tory or reform the point is they can't break out of racist racist
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that's all they can think actually a rejection of reality as well well and moral cowardice is
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quite literally and i just will ignore reality and and this is and this is why your thing can't
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work because let's say you ever tried to unite with the tories or or actually most of reform
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really when you got people like that in it because they're of course they're not going to unite with
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steve laws or and she i mean here she's saying the right and tommy or even rupert even rupert
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i mean she's actually talking about the abject racists at restore so of course they're never
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going to do it they're never going to unite with anyone one inch to their right because they have
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been trained to think their whole life that the moment you start to advocate for low enough taxes
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and border security the next thing you know you're invading poland yeah yeah yeah they can't think
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beyond that you can't have a cap on immigration because the next thing is that there's death
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camps oh no it's mad isn't it yes it's mad it's a madness and and so the whole right has been
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trained no matter where you are on the right you personally are the furthest possible acceptable
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answer and and and of course nigel does this in in reform as well i mean we we both got chucked
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out of reform for advocating things that he wasn't ready to say yet and yet later i i certainly know
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in my i mean you said a bit more stuff than me because there was something about ironbrew in
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there or something forget i forget the details now but but certainly the thing that i got kicked
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out reform for was in the reform manifesto page three like just a couple of years later
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well the things the article i wrote which hope not hate picked up on an entire deselected me
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immediately within hours of being shown that robert jenrich's gone further than that now
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yeah but you can't get ahead of the curve that's all yeah but you can't be no yeah you're not
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Yeah, you can't be ahead of the curve on this stuff.
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this is why we haven't got racism on the brain.
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and migrant crime is now so rife in Europe.
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The chances of you catching it on live TVs.
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He's just filming on the beach about the weather.
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Are you for or against us being demographically replaced
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and ultimately destroyed in our one and only ancestral homeland?
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Do you want to see us as a people that is a racial and ethnic element
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that would be downstream of getting our demographic
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It's a bit like, I mean, from Camilla's point of view,
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and nobody wanted to look into it or do anything about it you can imagine why for camilla that
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would be a that would be a minimum requirement for me the re dealing with the rape gangs is a
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minimum requirement and the second one is what you said which is acknowledge that the native british
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are the people and commit to a process of and i'm not even going to put a a minimum number on it but
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but commit to a process a remigration in favor of the native people so if somebody with the
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surname jones or smith from new zealand or merica or something wants to immigrate here that's fine
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as long as they've got english ancestry but don't import more people who don't have english
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ancestry and don't make up the night don't make up the numbers by getting young british lads
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you have to have a look at what the ethnicity is
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and make sure that there is an outflow of non-natives.
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So have we all come to the same conclusion?
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I mean, yeah, long term, some of it's finances, some of it's power,
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A lot of it can be completely ideologically bound.
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The motivating power should be for the British right.
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It should be because we look staring down the barrel of extinction.
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yeah but you how do you really can't reason that with someone like rich uh dick ties
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right who who doesn't care i'll be long gone yeah he'll be longer i'll be long gone so
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you can't that's not the motivating factor always think of a dog right always think of a dog what
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is their motivation is it uh owner affection is it is it dog treats like what is it you've got
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to think about what motivates they like owner affection but food does beat it some dogs don't
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care about owner affection at all okay it's about understanding my point is food is always higher
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again sometimes no genuinely it's about understanding kind of pointless segue but
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for politicians it's like well what is the motivating factor that you could get them
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to actually sit around a table and agree agree on things for you'd have to understand there
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Because it's not like the mafia have a unifying thing
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So it's really easy just on that basis to be like,
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If you did the version of our experiment 20 years ago,
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That would have been the thing that they all said.
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As long as GDP goes up, you know, you can be on our team.
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and that's why the conservatives were such a big church at the time until the conservatives came
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to the conclusion the way to make gdp go up was to bring in as many immigrants as humanly possible
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and and now we can't be in a deal with them and then you got reform who like to pretend
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but they're going to lower immigration and maybe they will but they're not going to do anything
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about the fact that it's already here and the birth rate is already going to replace us even if
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literally even if literally not you build a wall around the entire country and let no one else in
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we're still going to get replaced unless you do remigration so so this is this is my thing
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edgington asked nigel about that yes and i just said he wasn't concerned about it yeah doesn't
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matter that's why i could never ever uh support reform if i was in reform at that point i would
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leave at that point yes yeah that's a deal breaker how is that not a deal breaker for people
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like raw egg nationalist or whatever whoever whoever anyone that's still with reform how is
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that not a deal breaker for you what are you doing yeah yeah quite so i think what we're finding is
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look intellectually we acknowledge uniting the right would be a great idea they would but the
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problem is is that most of the right doesn't meet our minimum criteria which is demographic security
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so which you think was i mean it's the bare minimum that most people on the right should
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agree agree to yes there's a lot of people that fake right that's why i say reform isn't right
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yeah look at what i just said about demographics look at what about he said about uh islam can't
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alienate islam look at what ty said about i won't be here yeah how is they right wing yeah they're
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not right wing well and that's before we even get started on the tories all right yeah well
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they're completely not even centrist are they really the conservative party i mean they've
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got an anchor baby as their leader so i think i think i think this is what brings me to why i
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think the approach would restore is to not not spend too much time worrying about uniting the
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right is to point out to everybody get the message across to everybody that there is literally only
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gangs by having africans singing jerusalem will only get sold by serious people um co
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seven seven seven six the idea of good morals is something that just pops out of the ether is
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insane good morals require high qi presumably iq high iq is genetic morals are genetic you cannot
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have low iq people adopting good morals and matthew says i'm beyond caring about olive
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branches are uniting. If you're not with a straw, you're
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Japan's immigration woes in yesterday's segment reminded me of an old mech anime called
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Gassaraki. You see, some of the subplots include a right-wing nationalist coup to overthrow
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the globalist government and getting rid of violent illegal immigrants. Using mechs. No
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hyper-woo anime tropes in this series, thank god. Fairly realistic mech design, too.
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They're like the size of a 10, 15 story building
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uh all right tard maxing for more tax uh ap says uh gary bloody it is bloody hot in here yeah
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samson can we can we turn the screens off at the moment we finished before before lads hour
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because i am cooking as we are no i can do that for you yes i can also the air con turned off
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Yeah, the air conditioning, it just turned off.
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I'll tell you what, you guys read some comments.
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I'm going to start the air conditioning before I die.
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All right, do you want to read some or I'll read some?
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A small wealth tax is a massive tax on growth over time.
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i'm gonna try the right one oh great well the right's best so uh annie moss
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says thanks dan for introducing this gary guy to the audience i'd never heard of him
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you'll do some others completely divorced from each other yeah uh what's the next one
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infinite infinity benefits and beyond and beyond uh annie moss again says the government wants uh
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childcare for young children because the brainwashing is more likely to work if you get them young
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it's true isn't it um michael dribelbis dribelbis says here in uh new york in the usa uh we have a
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working families party which is very few actual working families but a lot of benefit benefit
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I think part of the increase in people with disabilities
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that's a whole new video wall 50 grand they are 50 grand a piece they are
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unite the right you know think positive says in germany the firewall has proven incredibly useful
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for the base of the afd because it prevents the less steadfast more liberal members of the afd
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from working with our cuck servitives therefore delaying it so long that they will only
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to come to us when they're so weak that they will be forced to give away
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to give way to all the things that we really want one of them on oh got both of them on good man
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omar awad says if you can't define what what a citizen or national is along the lines of ethnicity
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you are functionally left-wing anything else is a matter of to what degree we need to act to
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preserve it fair thing to say derrick power master of chippies says how i see politics
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and people are crying out for a united right a lot of people wanted it and a lot of people would
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like it it does in my experience it boils down to the leader of the parties whether it's
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whoever it is i shouldn't really name names but you all know who they are
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right it comes down to would you sit down with all the other people and one or two of them to
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be fair when i reached out one or two of them would say yeah yeah i'd sit down with more or
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anyone you know everyone from curtain to paul golding to all these people yeah would you sit
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down and a few of them say yeah yeah i would but most of them just say no just say no that guy
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doesn't believe a core thing that i believe so i'll never sit down with him even though we agree
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on 90 of stuff you know like well the classic thing tommy versus steve law is classic they
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despise each other so bad i'm not actually this isn't having a popper either tommy or steve
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it's just an example they would not they would not pull in one direction for like 70 of the
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public they're indistinguishable they they agree on a great deal of things but
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on the fundamental a couple of absolutely fundamental things they will will never ever
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agree yeah and so you go i mean for me personally if if they were able to if others were able to
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I would sit down with any person, within some reason,
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any person that takes on board that paradigm of the demographics
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But it's only Restore and the SDP, if you think like that.
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We will be back in this hot, sweaty room for Lads Hour