The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1460
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Summary
Who murdered Anne Whittacombe, who murdered Lindsey Graham, and who murdered the Labour Party? It's an all-round Labour murder mystery, and the Lotus Eaters are here to solve it all.
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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Monday,
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the 13th of July, 2026. I'm joined by Fores and Bo.
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And today we're going to be talking about who murdered Anne Whittacombe,
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who murdered Lindsey Graham, and who murdered the Labour Party.
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Yeah, no, whether Burnham can save the Labour Party or not, which, spoiler alert, no you can't.
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um but anyway so uh before we begin uh for us is doing his realpolitik at 3 p.m on lucy's.com
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so go and sign up and watch that uh it's live isn't it it's live so taking questions and whatnot
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uh and so right let's just get on with the news so ann winnecombe was murdered the other day on
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wednesday uh last week uh she wasn't discovered until almost 24 hours later on a thursday because
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she lives alone in devon or lived alone in devon and you'll know of course that i mean this is still
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up this tweet but it's socialist worker uh cheering over the fact she's dead i mean a lot of people
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did cheer initially and then everyone's like okay that's evil what are you doing and they were
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forced to apologize like peter tatchell various others um but socialist worker apparently uh
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sticking to their guns on that uh nigel went out and gave a dignified soliloquy for her uh which
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was actually really nice to be honest it was quite touching um he's obviously known her for many years
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she was conservative mp for many years she joined reform well she joined the brexit party
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then she joined reform and she was a spokeswoman for them uh and so this i think he handled this
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really well actually and this is a genuinely shocking event like i think shocking but not
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surprising as political murder is actually a feature of modern diverse politics so this is
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where we are um and so the the the information that has come out so far we'll go through it in
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a minute but it's been rather cryptic yes and it's leading people to conspiracy theories
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now i just want to be clear i have no idea what's happened uh in fact we don't even know like the
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we don't know the name of the suspect but we don't know we don't know what happened to her
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either we just thought she has been murdered yes we don't know the detail how you know the you know
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we don't know the details of her of her murder and so this this the the cryptic nature of the
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information that has been released has brought people into a realm of conspiracy theories which
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i just want to say i'm not saying i endorse um the first one is that uh she went on talk tv uh
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this was the last interview that she had where she talked about the establishment pulling
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strings behind politics let's watch this quickly does this establishment of which you and nigel
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speak actually exist yes i believe it does now i didn't always uh believe in in that theory uh but
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i do think now that different parts of the establishment um act in ways which i think
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are extremely questionable we saw it in the banking standard and i'm suddenly realized i'm
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just an idol a load of other people as well because you have the ability to publicize and
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so um yes i think the establishment is um is there in that sense yes so that's interesting
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isn't it like she spent her life in frontline british politics and it's only when she started
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pushing at the boundaries that she realized there was some other force underneath politics that came
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out to essentially rein them back in and say you're you're you know meddling with forces
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when she was in John Major's government, but now she does.
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It's not clear what to know, what to think about that.
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And then she was a kind of grandee of the party, right?
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Saida Warsi was, but Anne Whitcomb was, of course, white.
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You can see how this feeds into the conspiracy worldview.
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I'm just saying this is what a lot of people are saying.
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So when you're in line and you're doing what the system allows,
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then everything's very handoff but as soon as you start pushing at the bottom of the boundaries of
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that then suddenly even Anne Whittacombe's like well I didn't think there was an establishment
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that would be pulling strings behind politics but now I think that there is and it's like well
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she's pretty damn experienced right or you know I'm not gonna say that she doesn't know what she's
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talking about didn't know what she was talking about so anyway and then you get other weird
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coincidences which is uh her home was shown on national tv uh five days before she was murdered
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Which, again, in and of itself would mean nothing, right?
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celebrity Yorkshire auction house, Discovery Plus, right?
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So, again, it's not anything that means anything on its own,
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but you can see how the conspiracy theories begin to build.
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There's no conspiracy theory element to the fact
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and then just known exactly which property to go to.
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straightforward yeah it's it's not that hard to find places on google maps once you've once you're
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given a few clues exactly um so anyway i like i said i don't know so and the problem is we don't
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know much really at all these are the last messages that she exchanged with a channel 5 producer about
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a zoom call because they were expecting her to come on like with talk tv there and do a zoom call
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talking about whatever the issue was and she seems to have been murdered in the middle of arranging
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this so as you can see at 12 16 she she's the one in white uh saying you know here's you know she's
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getting the link blah blah blah uh and just to know you've got the address and at 12 19 she says
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yep receive panic over and then at 12 48 could you join now is everything okay by one o'clock
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they were trying to call her everything wasn't okay and in that period of time someone had entered
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her house and murdered her it's okay that's that's mad you know this is like again you just wouldn't
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you just wouldn't ever have seen this coming at any point during the career of man will come
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right so i mean just for anyone who's wondering she was quite hard-line conservative she was a
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christian and she was very serious about her christian beliefs and so she made a lot of enemies
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among people like the the peter tatchell crowd the lgbt's um and so everyone assumed that well
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is the murderer someone who has a grudge against her because of that she was very pro-borders very
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anti-immigrant anti-gay marriage anti-gay bishops in the house in the church of england
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uh pro-death penalty so certainly right of center yes she seems great doesn't she um but anyway uh
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26 year old man was initially arrested in newton abbott which is only 11 miles away
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they were very quick to tell us it was a straight 26 year old white man that was arrested which
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you'd expect in devon to be honest um but then they let him go because apparently he has nothing
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to do with the events uh the next thing is the police came out and said look please stop speculating
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on things um i won't play this but they just came out and said look just just please don't speculate
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okay how can we not speculate when a prominent politician is murdered in her home in the middle
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of the day and you don't have a suspect how can we not speculate not just that they speculate all
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the time when it suits them well yeah and they will always label anybody far right and call them
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criminals and call them all kinds of things um at every occasion yes so don't speculate means
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don't attack our narrative but they allow themselves to attack on the other side
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well yeah it's nonsense i've i don't know where this has come from particularly there's this idea
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that you can prejudice like a jury trial yeah okay that's quite an extreme thing that hardly
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ever actually happens if it's something as massive as say the michael jackson case the
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second michael jackson case it was so massive that they did actually struggle to find jurors
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that didn't already have a strong opinion on it one way or another okay that's actually a really
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really extreme and very rare that hardly ever happens so this thing they say now obviously
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when it's always on this side of the spectrum this side of the aisle don't speculate we ask
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you not to speculate nonsense no i'll speculate if i want to speculate no no no where does this
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come from this isn't part of our side now if i want to speculate on something i'll speculate on
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it and at the end of the day thank you because the implication is don't think about it too much
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right exactly that's what it is it shut it down don't think about it accept our narrative
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Moreover, let it sort of drain out of the public consciousness.
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If you spend time speculating on it, that keeps it in front of your mind.
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This won't help us memory hole it if you keep speculating about it.
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No, I'm going to speculate if I want to speculate.
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And also, I hate that we're going to sequester the entire country
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But the thing is, there aren't even any charges yet.
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they are not looking for any other suspect in this case.
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with serious injuries in the home at 11.40 BST on Thursday.
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and so we know from the uh messages here that it would have been some time between uh 12 19 and
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probably about 12 48 so if we just pitch it about say 12 30 is a rough thing so about 12 30 on the
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wednesday she was dead uh then the next day it was uh 11 40 she was discovered so that's that's
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important because of the nature of this chap he was a chap from rotherham who was arrested now
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according to devon and cornwall police uh we are supported by counter-terrorism policing in
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northeast and south yorkshire police who carried out an arrest on behalf of us but there's still
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no information to suggest this was terrorism related uh this is a live and active investigation
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and no further information will be issued at this time so why would you deny that it's terrorism
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when you don't actually know yeah or saying it's not terrorism related but it is the terrorism
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police that are doing it why are they like come on now yeah this is come on and so the next thing
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was that the police have made the active decision not to release cctv footage of the amuricum murder
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suspect releasing such premature releasing such prematurely could compromise ongoing inquiries
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and may prejudice future investigative opportunities.
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That's a very interesting way of saying we don't want you to have it.
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And there's CCTV everywhere and there's CCTV on her property, presumably.
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And surely the public could say, oh, I know that chap or I saw that chap.
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But if you don't tell us anything about the man,
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And if you don't give a name, people can't look into his social media.
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know what his proclivities are yeah well unfortunately for the police the son did get
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the footage uh the cctv footage of him leaving his house which i guess we'll play but so um
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this is all over social media and whatnot but as you can see he's uh just a fairly normal check
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he appears to have some sort of stick or bat club board bat yes yeah it's like a wooden rounders
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bat or something isn't it yeah a mini bat and he's getting into his vox hall astra and then we can
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look at so we know where he lived and we can look at a route map between rotherham and devon that's
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about 300 miles and takes about four and a half hours and we are told from the cctv footage that
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he left his house at 7 51 a.m so say 8 8 a.m on the wednesday 9 10 11 12 he got there at 12 30
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good luck getting the traffic around Birmingham and Bristol
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getting through some of the most high trafficked areas of the country
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and then literally just ran up and clubbed her did he like what like okay that would imply
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premeditation and therefore a reason that he did this so when they say it's not terroristic it's
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not political they're all sorry with no reason to think this is terrorism or a political murder
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well what okay well you're gonna have to give us something or we're gonna start speculating right
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well so for me just my opinion the terrorism thing because there is quite a specific
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definition uh that they've made up before the bar of terrorism is is crossed okay there's that
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don't tell me this isn't political because she is a high profile was a high profile political figure
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so unless it was entirely random not just that divisive as well you know so unless it's entirely
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random like he was a random burglar who was caught in the act of burglaring and lashed out
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to murder a politician without a political motive.
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like what could it be if not politics and that's all she ever talked about and anyway so yeah this
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is a better view of the subject apparently he's 28 years old so who knows right we haven't actually
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got any particular information about this guy um the police uh oh sorry the neighbors have given
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a description of him apparently he has learning difficulties he's a loner who didn't seem to work
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and rarely left his house apparently he went loopy and more introverted once his father died
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before christmas uh who he had moved in with around a year ago his parents were divorced as
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well um he was someone you'd have a conversation with but that changed after his dad died he became
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very quiet he kept himself to himself wouldn't really speak to anyone his red voxel courser
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barely moved from the driveway to the point that weeds were growing on it right okay and then he
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drove 300 miles in four and a half hours without any problems i was gonna say it doesn't look like
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it was weeds were growing on it but anyway he cares about that um he was introverted don't care
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It was loopy with learning difficulties, but not so loopy,
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and his learning difficulties weren't so severe
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that he can't drive 300 miles and commit a murder.
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Apparently he has a brother that lives in Devon.
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But the other guy they arrested was his brother.
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And apparently the other guy they arrested, the 26-year-old,
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that they let go was doing some work maybe on her property right that's why they first sort of
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thought of it well i i've been avoiding just the sort of rumor and speculation i'm trying to i'm
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trying to stand on you know things that seem to be fairly you know i'm trying to avoid yeah fair
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enough but uh but even with the information that the establishment is uh prepared to stand on this
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is all a bit strange right so um yeah the neighbor saw in place some kind of wooden stick in the
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passenger side of his car before leaving at around 7 a.m so 7 50 i think it was um and he's believed
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then to have driven the 270 miles to devon before she was attacked around 12 30 um okay that's that's
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really weird presumably the weather was hot the doors were open yeah presumably you just walk and
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it's devon it's yet people wouldn't lock their doors necessarily yeah especially ann would have
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lived in uh she didn't live in a village she lived in a fairly remote little estate uh you would have
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to have driven there basically no one would have walked by there organically no um so yeah doubtless
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she had her doors open because why wouldn't you because you're living in rural devon um and yeah
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it looks like he went in and murdered her it's like okay that's crazy so the police have uh done
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an armed raid armed police have raided the home of the murder suspect i'm sure they're going to
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go through all of his devices at some point we can expect some information but the fact i mean
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like in this there's nothing political in here right there's there's no it doesn't tell you
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thing about the man really like what are his views why would he choose ann widdicombe and
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there's nothing to divine out that other oh he's some crazy guy who just for some reason hated
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ann widdicombe and decided one day to drive all the way to her house and then club her to death
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or something was saw a police update shortly before this about an hour ago there was no new
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oh sorry we have actually had one through just uh just before we started i didn't see well the
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one i saw was about an hour ago and they didn't there's no new information as such but they did
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reiterate yeah that there's nothing political right okay so counterterrorism police now leading
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the investigation into the murder right okay so the counter again if there's no particular reason
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to think it's terrorism why the counterterrorism police doing it um okay any nothing to suggest
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it was previously politically motivated uh the shifted counterterrorism policing signals a
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broadened scope for the investigation why not just say we don't know instead of trying immediately
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to make sure that the right doesn't benefit from the narrative.
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Because their primary concern is making sure the right
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A right-wing politician has just been murdered in a home.
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It's like, no, you're not allowed to use this for political gain.
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It's like, but you use Joe Cox all the time, all the time.
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Yeah, or Stephen Lawrence, or the American dude on fentanyl,
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I'm just going to drive from Manchester to Devon
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I mean, the correct response would have been, we are obviously investigating all avenues, including whether it was politically motivated, and we will update the public.
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Well, I mean, he's been rearrested on suspicion of commission preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism, which would imply political. So it seems that it is a political act. But again, why don't give us his name? He's going to have social media. You can name the suspect. We can look into his social media history, and I'm sure we'll find a bunch of highly politicized things, right?
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which is why the terrorism police are arresting him uh farage himself had already said look i
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don't think this is not a burglary gone wrong i'm 100% certain i'm right now and i agree and
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people have been going out of him uh because he said look i think this was premeditated but it
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obviously must have been premeditated because again this is an wouldicum's house right this
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as you see this is a main road like you can't just walk around there's no footpath there or anything
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and her house is just in the middle of nowhere in the fields so you'd have to drive to get there
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you have to be going there specifically you're not just going to walk past it i don't even know
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how a burglar would get there on foot you know what i mean so it's i think it's a perfectly
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reasonable thing for for us to say yeah no this is this looks premeditated um but of course you
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know the don't speculate don't have any thoughts on it it's like well i'm sorry it looks like this
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is yet another political murder in britain because well we're at a point now that our politics has
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become a series of unresolved contradictions yes and this is what is causing the murders this is
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what caused the murder of david armis it's what caused the murder of joe cox yes when people have
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these deeply held ideological principles and they can't see how these things can be resolved
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diplomatically or democratically people turn to murder that's why you do this you okay well i
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just need to get rid of politics to avoid murder and you act reasonably and charitably to the other
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side so that things don't get to such an extreme point that only violence can resolve them exactly
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and when you are in this kind of multicultural holding pattern where it's like no what we need
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is all of these contradictions to just exist forever uh well then that's when people feel
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they need to go outside of the democratic process into the realm of violence so actually you've got
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to allow something to resolve but anyway i guess uh i guess i'll leave there but the point is at
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the moment which like it's been three days now and we just don't know anything yes like you still
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don't actually don't have a name we don't have a social media profile we don't have a reason but
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yeah we just have you have a job a drip of information and there's nothing substantive
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and an order do not think about it yes the fact that a couple of data points that we do have
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the police aren't looking for any other suspect he traveled all that way to a remote location
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um there's no way it's not premeditated and politically motivated yes there's just no way
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yeah i just don't believe it don't speculate about it yeah no uh we will but also we're going
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but also it's it's the murder of like one of the high profile politicians backing the party that
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is currently still in the lead in the polls that has been roundly demonized by the media by the
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political establishment i mean the amount of time that keir starmer spent calling out nigel
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farage and reform in parliament yes well if this turns out to be some sort of stochastic terrorism
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that keir starmer and the media and their denunciations of reform and nigel farage
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and ann widdicom and whoever else has caused well okay now they've got blood on their hands
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yeah this this is i think what they're afraid of and like like you created the atmosphere where
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You said Nigel Farage is like the devil, you know, persona non grata.
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He's the antithesis of everything good in our politics.
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Did Starmer have a whole speech calling him the enemy, essentially?
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He had a whole speech basically identifying Nigel Farage as the enemy of everything that he wants.
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Yes, and he used his privileged position in Parliament to attack Farage repeatedly
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knowing that this was an advantage he could leverage.
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Calling him a traitor, calling him a Russian agent?
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Anne Whittacombe could easily have been an MP in 2029,
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And why wouldn't you want someone with her experience?
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and so anyway it just it the the amount of effort they're going to to again not give us any real
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information say look just just just don't think about this very much it's highly suspicious right
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it's highly suspicious and the fact that they'll honor we don't think this is political it's like
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no that's the first thing you would think if a divisive politician is murdered you have to think
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this political it's ridiculous to try and pretend that it's not political and if it turned out not
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speaker well that's a surprise uh but i don't think that's the case uh anyway uh one tall order
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says uh when women do not forget these people want you broke dead your kids raped and brainwashed
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and they think it's funny that's true um no tom you're incorrect there um and seems that it's
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either political or he is a scapegoat well this is the thing who who knows who knows anyway let's
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move on uh so it's the end of an era in american politics but few people seem to realize that it
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is the end of an era especially at the top of american politics now as you probably know uh
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congress in the united states is incapable of doing even the most basic things the republicans
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have a majority in the house the majority in the senate and the presidency and they haven't been
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able to do anything with it other than... And the maturity in the Supreme Court. And in the Supreme
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Court. And in the Supreme Court. Yes, absolutely. So even very basic things, for example, the Save
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Act, which would basically require proof of citizenship before you register to vote,
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is completely stuck in the American political system, with the Senate refusing to move forward
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on it. And the SAFE Act, I mean, just to be clear, the sponsors of it, I believe, include
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Mr. Lindsey Graham, who is now passed, among others, but it got stuck in committee because
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they didn't want to break the filibuster rules, which everybody knows are going to eventually be
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broken. And there is total insistence that no, Americans can't get IDs for their votes.
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But what the Americans can get is things like the intelligence sharing enhancement as part of the U.S. Intelligence Authorization Act, the spending bill for one of the intelligence agencies.
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And this act requires the United States to increase sharing intelligence with Israel on everything to do with terrorism, on everything to do with sanctions evasion, on all of the big priorities that are important for the Israelis, essentially.
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Right. And they ban, more or less, the American president from stopping intelligence sharing with Israel unless he reports to Congress why this is happening and for how long this is happening and give them full details so that the Congress can hold the president over the coals in case he does something that the Israelis don't approve of.
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No, there is no such act in the Israeli Knesset.
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Nothing of the sort is being discussed in the Israeli Knesset.
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It's just the Americans have to share all of their intelligence with Israel.
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And given the scope of the things that are covered, it means that pretty much everything has to be shared with the Israelis.
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They can also do things like, in the National Defense Authorization Act, in I believe Section 219 now, force essentially a merger of the R&D, the military research and development between Israel and the United States, to give a favored place to Israeli technology in American defense.
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and Netanyahu presents this as basically moving away from aid to partnership by which essentially
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it means that Israeli companies will have access to the 1.5 trillion dollars that the United States
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spends every year on defense to develop their own technologies rather than having the Americans
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develop their technologies independently. Can't help but feel that the tail is wagging the dog here.
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So changing the definition of basically the aid,
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quote-unquote aid, that the United States gives Israel,
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so that it's just rather a locked-in thing for all time,
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something much deeper than merely an aid agreement.
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So if they have access to all of your intelligence,
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by the big technology corporations to intelligence.
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These all now get handed over to the Israelis,
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and the Israelis get a favorite position going forward in any military R&D.
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So the American Congress cannot pass the SAVE Act, but it can pass these.
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It's interesting how it's taking on the aspect of a kind of system
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Yeah, the self-sustaining system, we don't care whether you vote for someone, because they're not going to pass a bill that does anything substantial. But we are going to get the things we want, because we have lobbied enough, and we can just lobby every single politician who gets elected.
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And you saw what happened with Thomas Massey, which happened with a bunch of Democrats who
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And you also see that there is this ability to influence Congress all the time.
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But you see that when it comes to something like mass deportations, nothing in the end
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So when, you know, the Trump administration has full control of the FBI, instead of using
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that to investigate Act Blue, which was distributing money that I speculate is probably
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coming from the cartels and is being redistributed into the American political machine. When it comes
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to the insane amounts of corruption by various foreign communities, the FBI takes it easy and
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sits on its hands. Remember that Dan Bongino preferred to become a podcaster than deputy
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director of the FBI? Yes. Having been completely broken by the system to the extent that he ended
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up denying that the obscene files exist yeah the point you made about i don't know it seems like a
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a system divorced from its people isn't that how republics die yes yeah when you look at ancient
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and maybe even medieval republics they don't usually last all that long 250 years i was
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gonna say a century or two at most yeah well uh 250 years i think is the average for a successful
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republic yeah and because republics are really quite easy to subvert yeah um you just get an
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elite in there and they can subvert it from the inside out and just stop fail to be working for
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the interests of the people and the republic itself um yeah the sort of inertia the system
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builds up becomes insurmountable yeah the parallels between the end of the roman republic
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with the Popularists and the Optimates is striking in many ways.
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And just to be clear, this doesn't mean the end of America.
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It just means the transition from the Republic into the American Empire.
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Which is what we've been arguing is happening for quite some time.
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that some people put it as far back as Woodrow Wilson and the Federal Reserve.
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Some people put it as far back, even further back than that.
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I would certainly say that the Federal Reserve is a big part of this,
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but that's a different conversation uh and just in case you're wondering yes it is a merger between
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the american military and the israelis and it's netanyahu saying that it's a transition from aid
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to partnership but no notice and this is very interesting right because if you think like
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historically um this would be normally the great power absorbing the minor power right and so the
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Minor power would actually not want these things
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would not be dictating the terms upon which this is done.
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oh no, Israel will get everything from America.
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And I'm actually, I'm not going to call it aid.
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the difference is the amount of dignity that is contained within those words if you're being given
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aid that means you're inferior and weak and you actually need their help and this is being done
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charitably well if you change it to a partnership now this is about mutual obligation and respect as
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equals and so what netanyahu is doing is essentially like leveling up yes the israelis
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Because before, this is like actually weirdly analogous
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to kind of William the Conqueror conquering England
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despite being the vassal of the King of France.
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Yeah. And Netanyahu was speaking in the context of the passing of Lindsey Graham, which we will get to.
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But two individuals who are sort of very symptomatic of this divorce between the establishment and its public would be Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham.
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Mitch McConnell, for those of you who don't remember, he used to be the Senate minority leader.
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Then he was the Senate leader for the Republicans.
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and he's been, shall we say, malfunctioning for some time.
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This was two or three years ago when he first sort of,
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people were like, oh, wait, what's wrong with Mitch?
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So he's asked if he's going to run for re-election in 2026,
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he's pretty old he's 88 so he's very very old um and he's completely you know he's not been
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uh in a good position for some time and now it seems that they shared an update saying that he's
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doing fine but there is this claim which i can't personally verify that the image released was the
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same one from 2023? Right. I don't know if this is true. I just want to be very clear about that.
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But I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't true. And then another statement was released,
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a statement was released on his behalf that says that he had a small fall and he's been recovering.
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Now, mind you, he's been out of the public eye since the 14th of June. So it's been a month
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almost uh and the statement was issued after the passing of lindsey graham but doesn't mention
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that lindsey graham has passed away which is a bit strange which is a bit strange yeah there is a
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another complication here his wife after he was hospitalized elaine chow takes a visit to china
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This isn't the first time that a Chinese spy has gone deep cover.
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Literally had an affair with the Chinese spies?
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And I'm wondering why the Chinese vice president
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wants to meet with a former secretary of transport
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but she says that his health did not warrant an immediate return from china
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sorry your husband is incapacitated in hospital i need to go speak to the chinese vice president
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you're out on a foreign jolly to speak with the chinese vice president yeah it just seems a bit
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off shall we say um his wife comes back and says that she was on a long planned trip
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to China to support her family's philanthropic endeavors.
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Now, her father is a Chinese transportation tycoon
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and she was the American Secretary of Transport
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at a time when the Americans were desperately in need
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Again, this is so reminiscent of the end of the Roman Republic,
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where suddenly you have all of these foreign interests
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infiltrating to the top of Roman Republican politics.
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And when Caesar is packing the Senate with Celts and things like that,
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it's never just like, why would they be here?
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It's like, sorry, this is just what I'm going to do now,
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Obviously, there's no good for a Roman to have Celtic barbarians in the Senate.
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but it is good for the state that has just taken over Gaul.
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And so this is, it's just got real echoes of that, right?
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Yeah, when you've got the Senate and eventually generals
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When you've got a general who's actually a barbarian.
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sympathies with your enemies, and he controls, you can be a CO on the ground, well then you're
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one hair's breadth away from- Perhaps a transportation secretary.
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You know that a CENTCOM commander cannot be hostile to Israel, for example.
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You know that CENTCOM, the branch of the US military that deals with the Middle East,
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the command of the US military that deals with the Middle East, these guys are always
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going to be pro-Israel, and they are constantly going to and from Israel to coordinate military
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policy and so you see this at the same time you see the transport the former transportation
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secretary being literally the daughter of a chinese transportation tycoon shipping tycoon
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so you get this level that just happens to marry this long-standing senator yes who they know is
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going to be there like i mean this kind of gerontocracy in america is a really terrible
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thing yes like you've got it in the democrats are like nancy pelosi and chuck schumer they've been
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in there just and fine yeah yeah yeah axian waters yeah since the age of the dinosaurs yes
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there's never been a time when people can remember they weren't in politics joe biden
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yeah yeah joe biden like it it's crazy schumer all of them it's it's the same dynamic now it's
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really important for this uh system to not say that mitch mcconnell is dead because if they did
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there would have to be a special election so long as he doesn't so long as he uh dies before the
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3rd of august because after the 3rd of august the election gets rolled into the november election
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right but until then there would have to be a new election and thomas massey might end up running
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I feel like there should be rules against that.
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There should be rules against a lot of things that go on there.
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Can't the people wherever he's from, is it Kentucky?
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even state Democrats demand to see Mitch McConnell?
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the governor of kentucky who is a democrat has demanded as much okay all right uh and so they
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gave him this statement from mitch mcconnell saying no no i'm still here a cardboard cutout
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kind of in the era of tiktok videos that couldn't be more simple right yes you could literally just
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record a tiktok video of him in the hospital recovering you could you could if you wanted to
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you could uh so there's something clearly wrong here and it's symptomatic of this total divorce
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between the leadership and the public and nobody really epitomized that divorce more than
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the late lindsey graham yeah uh he was if you will remember part of the gang of eight
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along with marco rubio and jeff flake and uh john mccain and a bunch of democrats
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who were advocating for essentially an amnesty for illegal migrants
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and who were working with the Democrats and Obama to try to create this.
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And he was always a supporter of just big businesses.
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Even McConnell at some point wavered on this stuff in the early 80s
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when he was a senator when he first became or in the mid 80s when he first became a senator
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uh he was pro amnesty but then when obama picked up that mantle he sort of shifted tracks but this
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is because of reagan isn't it well yes this was because of reagan absolutely absolutely uh and
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then he ended up supporting some immigration reforms that obama approved of and if obama
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approved of them, you know exactly what kind of reforms they were. And these people just don't
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seem to have any priority other than Israel and big businesses. I mean, Lindsey Graham was explicit.
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Lindsey Graham was so extreme that apparently he told Netanyahu that, no, you can't finance
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your own defense we will do it for you yeah and he was on speeches saying you know you have to
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think of israel and all of the aid that we have to give to israel that was his whole life campaign
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there's a particular video that springs to mind where he literally is declaring himself to be
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israel first yes and it's okay message received lindsey exactly and you see with these people
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that the animating ideology is the expansion of the empire which is intrinsically tied to the
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israeli whose empire well the empire the empire divorced from its people it's funny we are actually
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talking about empire and not the republic it is isn't it i mean okay i mean um how would you like
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some haitians for neighbors graham mr graham was uh very very hawkish wasn't he sort of an arch
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hawk it was if it was if trump was being bellicos about greenland he was on board with that he's
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to do something um in venezuela he was on board with that take out cuba yeah let's go into iraq
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let's go into afghanistan let's not pull out of afghanistan let's go into iran oh no no no no no
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whatever it would be wherever there's a pretty much every war yeah right whatever whatever it
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was he and he never received a word of criticism from his supposed boss who was mitch who was mitch
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mcconnell like when mcconnell was senate leader he never tried to play any kind of moderating
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influence on on these kinds of wars he was always equally favorable to them but it's it's
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the things that they want sorry my hate was going crazy today the things they want indicate that
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this is an empire right the fig leaf of republic has kind of fallen away so republic is for a
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specific group of people who theoretically themselves come together to form a republic
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most republics formed out of revolution and this again just the way the republics are normally
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formed and so the the people themselves would say we want politics for ourselves and not for
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the interests of some remote aristocratic class or king but empires are completely different
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empires the domination of a system over many different peoples yes and so you can go back
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as far as you like in history to find the empire you the thing that empire is most concerned about
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as population levels it wants high population to be able to use people as materiel yes use them as
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human capital in order to make something happen that is beneficial to the system and the structures
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which explains their immigration policy exactly which it completely explains their immigration
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policy because as far as they're concerned having more population is just a net good for the empire
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exactly having a reduced population that actually has political enfranchisement of its own is
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actually bad for empire yes because that population might choose not to have an empire they might not
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want to have this they might be isolationist as americans actually quite naturally are yeah so
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you can this is why you like i using the term empire just doesn't feel inappropriate no but
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there is an imperial system that lays atop of the united states at this point and people like
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lindsey graham and mitch mcconnell and whoever else are its avatars are its spokesmen and these
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Because the actual decision makers are the oligarchs who give them their political donations on whose patronage they depend.
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Well, judging by the smirk on Netanyahu's face, I think we can see who the actual executors of the empire are.
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Even he is beholden to his own security services.
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And the entire Israeli political economy is predicated on taking senior intelligence officials, putting them in startups, and giving them a pathway to become millionaires and billionaires.
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So this whole thing just has no relation with the people that are being governed by it.
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yes it's interesting you say that even someone like bibi himself is uh controlled by or in hox
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perhaps his own intelligence services well not controlled by them but he is beholden to beholden
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okay yes okay put it that way so i wonder who might that be someone that maybe is older than
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him somebody was perhaps even his commanding officer when they served in the military someone
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that might have been the head of all Israeli intelligence,
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someone that might have been the head of all Israeli military
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The irregular visitor to New York, by any chance.
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The sort of person who'd want this kind of legislation, in fact.
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For those of you who missed the joke, lightning is Barak, but different story.
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Ehud Barak, he did like to stay at Epstein's townhouse, didn't he?
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But where Lindsey Graham has died now, though, hasn't he?
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Because where I listed the things Lindsey Graham was an advocate for,
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He was, on top of all those things I mentioned,
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of course he's massively, massively pro, was massively, massively pro Ukraine.
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And Zelensky and banging that drum endlessly of the boogeyman Russia.
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So his job in the system was to inflate foreign threats and get American resources dedicated to combating these threats.
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Because Russia, at the end of the day, is probably much more interested in a power-sharing arrangement over Europe rather than in fighting the United States.
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Iran only has a conflict with the United States because of Israel.
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Iran is a natural ally of the West because it's surrounded by hostile Sydney powers.
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the only real complication there is Israel. And Graham's role was to stop you from seeing
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geopolitical realities and to keep pumping the idea of permanent war. And that permanent war
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served largely the money classes, because as we know from the files that mentioned Mr. Ehud
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Barak, these guys were literally trading financial assets with the Rothschilds based on developments
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in the Russia-Ukraine war, in Libya, in Africa, in Central Asia,
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So that was very surprising to me in some of the Epstein dump files,
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the connections with business and trade in places like Africa,
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North Africa, Sabsara in Africa, all over the place, in the Arab world.
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Wait, Jeffrey Epstein is setting up business connections in North Africa
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I mean, it's all there in black and white, isn't it?
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And that is why you have systems that control the oligarchs
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because the oligarchs are only interested in themselves.
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It's a certain kind of person that becomes excessively devoted
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And so they dedicate their lives to the system.
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Now, in ancient times, this was a eunuch, right?
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Yeah, and ironically, in China or Syria or Babylon.
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the the the unit class uh because they had no personal ties to anything else became devotees
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of the system and it's just weird how lindsey graham you know lifelong confirmed bachelor right
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yeah it's just just just weird mitch mcconnell have children how he's got does he have children
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by elaine chow all right right okay so i mean but again you know you can you know give them give a
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man a wife and get him on that note but the the most fervent defenders of the imperial system
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because they just don't have anything else.
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why the eunuchs were always held in contempt.
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The eunuchs literally cannot care about your sons.
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interesting how Lindsey Graham filled that role.
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and so we don't actively wish for damnation on people.
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but history has to be honest about these people.
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They didn't serve anybody except their paymasters.
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there's an imperial system that provides someone's benefiting from it exactly and it's not you and
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it's not you so that's what we wanted to say about mr mcconnell i don't know if he's alive or dead
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and mr graham who seems to be very dead apparently from a heart attack i saw a lot of people saying
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it wasn't a drone he had made it to the united states the question is who holds about him having
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a heart attack at midnight there is a question there we don't know could be a carer could be
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you know a lot of these congressmen have roommates who are also in congress we don't know just have
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best buddies i would say spend a lot of time with we don't know it does seem to be the case that he
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died of cardiac arrest his heart stopped now it does still beg the question what made his heart
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And we don't know, yeah, and his father died of cardiac arrest at about that age, and he
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has, it's known he's had high blood pressure since his 40s, so he could easily be just
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a cardiac arrest, but the Iranian state TV did put out propaganda, they made, they put
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out, well, not propaganda, they just put out saying that they, suggesting, yeah.
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Have you ever seen Iran make AI-generated Lego, the Lego animation?
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You know that Lego animation, Lego films, but it's pro-Iranian angle.
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But there's no particular reason to think that a 71-year-old man who looks like Lindsey Graham didn't have a heart attack.
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I imagine he's eating many, I mean, again, another point about the eunuchs is that they don't stay in good shape.
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Not only are their testosterone levels bad, but the one pleasure they've got left is eating and drinking.
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So it's not beyond the realm's possibility that Lindsey Graham dies of a heart attack organically at 71.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. It's not beyond the realm's possibility.
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But the flip side of that coin is it's actually not beyond the realm's possibility that something sinister or nefarious happened.
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I mean, we know that Iran have got a kill list with Mr. Trump at the top.
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It goes down to people like Ben Shapiro and Laura Luma.
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Anyway, we pray for them because it is our duty, but there we are.
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visiting disney yeah uh but we don't know yeah a tool cia and moss-eyed agents watching uh first
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modad loves the nation of israel that's true that's true firas is not suicidal
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that is true that is very true yes and lots of people who are just like i can't believe this
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is happening it's like well i'm sorry but the imperial system acts as it wants anyway let's
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let's carry on okay shall we talk a little bit about the burn and bounce yes please what bounce
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yeah thank god it's a light-hearted segment finally yeah the death of the labor party
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finally something light-hearted um so if anyone who might not know because i've mentioned it on
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the breakfast show a week or two ago i mentioned the possible a possible burn and bounce and i
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saw one or two comments in the chat what does that mean what are you talking about so some people
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might not know but very often nearly always when a new leader comes in they'll get a little bit of
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a bounce in the polls in popularity the people a lot of people just give them a little bit of
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slack sometimes it's only a few weeks a couple of months maybe just to let them have a little bit
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of breathing space and they get a little bit of a bump in popularity a bounce the burn and bounce
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okay so will burnham get one at all so here's um one ag it's on the front page of the the times
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today uh immigration reforms uh could be scaled back so straight away straight away i mean it's
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not even prime minister first thing to say um it's a mathematical lock is 100 will be the prime
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minister a week today i've got like 330 something mps supporting him which is and the thing about
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that as well is you can say okay right so kirstama was an actual tyrant over his own party
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Keir Starmer rules his party with an iron fist.
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And it was, oh, I might be able to get the 80 MPs.
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And as soon as it looks like Starmer's about to fall,
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Yeah, I mean, with the number of MPs Burnham got,
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well, there wasn't ever going to be any contest
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Well, a number of, Wes said, Wes Streeting said,
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he was going to do it didn't yeah yeah everyone knew where stream was just saying it to just get
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out yeah um but where andy burnham got so many mps it doesn't even need to go to the unions and the
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affiliated socialist organizations that are formally affiliated to labor that's it is it
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that's it it's all over andy burnham will 100 be the prime minister in a week's time it is a
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complete yeah absolutely locked in mathematically right and actually i think i'm pretty sure
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parliament will be in sort of summer break summer recess at that moment so he won't have any
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scrutiny from anyone he'll just turn up in what is it september or whatever it is they reconvene
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as andy burnham where keir starmer was and his only mandate is the 25 odd thousand people to
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vote for him in makerfield that's it and 300 plus mps labor mps that that green lit that
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all people that's it that's it that's his mandate i hate and consider traitors to the country
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yeah thanks the good people of makerfield thanks for that well done i mean i understand why they
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did it but like still i'm sorry i just don't they don't represent me yeah it's not representative
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me i would never like millions of people would never have voted this way and you can see it
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because of the polls yeah yeah when you look at a breakdown of his popularity it's obviously in
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and around the manchester liverpool region big chunk in the middle of london because it's just
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sort of Labour stronghold still, and everywhere else.
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I even speak to people in the North a fair bit,
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and people from other parts of the North are like,
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People like from Leeds, for example, or Newcastle,
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Some of the most Brexite-y places in the world, in the country.
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because they are actually socially conservative,
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brexiteer voting like they're not people who are like yeah what i want is labor like they're the
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ones flipping away from labor yes and this is the last desperate attempt to try and save labor
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anyway yeah so will he get much rebounds it looks like in the wider broader country probably not
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but what about even in his own party because earnham has always been uh a blair right he was
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there from the beginning basically with Blair he was in senior government he was a secretary of
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state during the brown years he was always part of the new labour project now to old labour the
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lefties uh well actual old labour lefties and today modern day far left of the party that are
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sort of post Blair but nonetheless nonetheless someone like Burnham represents um what Maoists
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might call a rightist deviation yes yes yes no no no that's exactly right i was just i was just
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thinking about in my head like how would i characterize him well kind of like the tail
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end of new labor like the old left trailing along with new labor because he does understand that the
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party is meant to be for the working class people of the country but he is also a part of the blair
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project and has signed on to everything about the blair project so he's got sympathies for the old
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left and the working classes but he's still a man of the system absolutely a right deviation
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that's a really good characteristic characterization i really enjoy that so within the left we always
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well it's the same in the right isn't it you've got people that are on the right of the right and
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people that are just right and there's always a uh a tension between it was exactly the same in
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left in fact perhaps more prevalent in the left how far left are you yes right burnham isn't that
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far left for them for people like us oh yeah normal people normal liberals in the old sense
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of the word liberal normal centrist dads he's a lefty but if you're if you're a proper sort of
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marxist or you're a proper sort of trot you like idolize someone like trotsky or something he's
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not that he's not very far left really he's milquetoast he's he's like angela rayner they
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call them the soft left for a reason right they call them the soft left because they are just kind
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of the vibes i guess you would call them you know we just want the government to give us money so
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we can have buses and it's like okay great brilliant now people say um and it is true sorry
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that the left of the party wanted burnham over starmer because burnham's further to the left
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than starmer okay okay that's true yeah only a little bit though in the scheme of things in
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their world the left of the labor party in their minds when you look at it only a little bit i can
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understand why they view starmer as a very right-wing man actually because starmer is a very
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much committed to the system itself and the system itself is tottering because of bad decisions that
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were ideologically made by the left of the party even though the system itself is a left-wing system
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that is designed to go as far left as it can but if it's gone if the conservatives being retarded
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have made it go too far to the left too quickly yeah he's going to get that immigration down
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because the system has to be said don't get me wrong we're having a replacement just in an orderly
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manner fashion right and so okay no we won't have a million in a year we'll have 300 000 go back to
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boiling the frogs the frog slowly exactly exactly the conservatives just being retarded didn't
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understand the plan um but went along with it anyway because they're lazy traitors um but so
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like for them i can see why they think starmer is a right winger because he's trying to save the
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system itself burnham doesn't understand this it seems like he's he's like i'm i'm going to keep
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everything the same or i'm going to go back on this i we probably will have tax rises we will
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have more immigration it's like okay but i mean good for me i'm you know i'm an accelerationist
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when it comes to the blur out system i want you to just do everything as maximum as you can you
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know ruin it ruin everything i know you're going to so just get on with it so at least the public
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can see that you're going to just be like yeah this is what the plan is because the problem with
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keir starmer i mean at least he made himself hated the problem with keir starmer is he was
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like the the argument on you know labor of reduced immigration is true yeah but that's true you know
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Like, Labour are trying to get these things under control.
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Yeah, they are trying to get these things under control.
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No, no, I want Andy Burnham just, yeah, no, just handbrake off.
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It was an astronomical all-time high as in sort of the Boris wave
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and the Rishi years, and they've brought it down a little bit.
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Well, the net they've brought it down is significant.
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So anyway, I don't want to split hairs about that,
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They're boiling the frog and they're putting it on simmer
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As a quick point to make with regards to Burnham,
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which was Theresa May, who introduced net zero
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it then you had the worst prime minister ever who was boris johnson and open up the boris wave and
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just destroyed the whole damn thing then you had the worst prime minister ever who was liz truss
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and survived for 45 days or something like that literally the worst then you had the worst prime
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minister ever who was rishi sunak uh the son of india uh continue indians say again he brought
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in a quarter of a million indians brought in a quarter of a million indians true cuckoo in the
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Then you had the worst prime minister ever, Geir Starmer, imposing a total police state
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And I have the sense that you're about to get the worst prime minister ever.
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So in the mind of the far left of the Labour Party,
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or people on the outside like Owen Jones type that hated Starmer for being right,
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I think the Greens will lose support to Labour.
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It looks to me already that they're not going to give him
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I mean, already here we can see, on the front of the Times,
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Because the left of the party are putting pressure on him already.
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Andy Burnham faces new revolt on left of the Labour Party
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as MPs urged him to ditch the tough immigration force
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He said he's going to come out and he's going to back up
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the silly little twiddling around the edges,
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we will only give you right to remain after 10 years
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Are they giving him any sort of breathing space?
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and they're like, well, in fact, what have I got here?
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They said, 80 backbenchers sent him a letter demanding he change course on that.
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And he will, this is in the article, and he will witness another show of strength from the rebels on Monday when dozens are expected to refuse to vote for his immigration bill.
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It has echoes of the revolt a year ago that forced Sir Keir Starmer into abandoning proposed welfare cuts, fatally damaging his authority.
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This is why we're going to end up missing Keir Starmer, you know.
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No one has more contempt for the Labour Party than Keir Starmer,
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We're going to miss the stormtroopers and their Führer
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It's really often the way when a leader leaves office.
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Almost immediately, everyone goes, oh, they're all right, actually, weren't they?
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And almost as soon as he's out of his office, it's like, oh, actually, we miss him.
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Like, Gordon Brown was the most pathetic joke the second he fell out of his office.
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Like, oh, actually, he wasn't too bad, was he?
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I'm liking the sort of renewal of Nixon's reputation that's going on.
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Yeah, well, I don't know that much about him, really,
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because I've never bothered looking into him that much, right?
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I've got an eight-part series on history, bro, if you're interested.
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Yeah, I've got a long form on history, bro, about Nixon.
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But a senior source close to Mr. Burnham told the Daily Mail,
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He knows how important it is to get proper control of immigration.
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He won't be backing down to the left of his own party.
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So already there's talk of the tension and the locking of horns between Burnham and, yeah, a heresy within a schism in the party.
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The thing people forget about Andy is that he's from Wigan, not central Manchester.
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He understands how working people feel about this.
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To be fair, he hasn't gone hard on the subject.
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i mean he he didn't bring it up during his campaign well yeah because it wouldn't play
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well in makerfield would it well i mean he is on record of saying more safe and legal routes
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yeah yeah of course but like and you know he wants to rejoin the eu and stuff like this
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but he's been savvy enough to be like i'm just going to drop all of those things that are going
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to be massively unpopular he doesn't he doesn't discuss them yeah well i know what he because he's
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very very careful that tells you everything you need to know it's lying by omission the fact when
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he did that big speech uh well his only real speech at that museum in manchester uh where he
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was talking about hope and everything like that and the the high street every post yeah hope in
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every postcard and talk about the high street that sort of thing not one word about demographics or
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immigration legal or illegal not one word about any of it but that speaks volumes doesn't it oh
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yeah because we know where he feels party yeah exactly we know he feels on it and he'll also
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just completely tank any potential bounce that he's expecting to get right if he comes out and
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It's like, yeah, actually, all those people who left to reform,
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most of that is going to be about immigration, left and right.
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I'm going to come up with my idea on immigration.
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Man, that's just going to drag more people to the fringes.
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Because his ideas are things like more safe and legal rights.
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But they're not going to be safe and legal enough.
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He'll back Mahmood because that's a very, very specific,
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So you can go along with that because it's prudent
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for his political position, but ultimately he doesn't care
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about us being invaded, raped and murdered on insane level.
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Have we got the numbers of the burn and bounce?
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I'll quickly whip through my next couple of links then.
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Just say, meanwhile, and all summer long, I'm sure,
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And, of course, we all know that illegal immigration
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have been that small yeah yeah uh meanwhile yeah meanwhile the agreement the pakistani
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home secretary of britain is currently in a war with pakistan over trying to deport a pakistani
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man who raped a bunch of kids back to pakistan and the pakistanis said not on our lives you never
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have him here and the home said the pakistani home secretary is like look this pakistani man
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has to go back because otherwise what i just apparently she's supposed to speak to the house
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today it may even be right now i don't know exactly but supposed to speak into the house
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today um talking about perhaps some quote-unquote emergency legislation to try and deport him in
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some way but pakistan have made it very clear we're not having him he renounced them to the
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taliban he seriously send them to make a deal with the taliban give them i don't know two
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billion pounds and send a million people to them pakistan are literally having a war with
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afghanistan i know that's the beauty of it one side or the other conscript him to the mountain
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front lines the pakistani muslims in britain will probably side with the taliban against
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the pakistani government i say support the taliban i say back the taliban give them people
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take that give that our context sanis give them pakistanis okay but the pakistan is no
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world country it doesn't do it on uh right the soil it doesn't write the blood anyway so if he
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says i renounce my pakistani citizenship okay so what you're entitled to it because of your
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pakistani lineage so i mean anyone who's born outside of pakistan who is pakistani can claim
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pakistani citizenship based on that so them saying well he renounced citizenship so what
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it's not a golf club changes that changes everything it changes nothing by your own laws
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he was a dual national british and pakistani then he renounced his pakistani nationality but
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He was stripped of his British nationality or his British passport
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So basically both countries are saying he's not ours.
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You asked about the numbers for the burn and bounce.
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and still heavily disliked um i've seen um having 25 neutral is good for him that's it
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i mean it won't last but it's good or asked here uh what burn and bounce yeah so here's a here's a
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bit of uh here's a data point the uh by-election here is favorability so favorability goes up when
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people realize he's a labor politician yeah yeah that's what it comes down to this this these are
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still the good times because yes exactly exactly yeah this is supposed to be his bounce exactly
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supposed to be he's on the upward tick of his bounce should be at this point not just that
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but as the war in the middle east continues and the economy gets worse there's going to be a lot
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more pressure to find savings and stop borrowing because either interest rates are going to go a
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very high or there's going to be a recession and interest rates will go high or he's going to have
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to borrow even more infinity money and then he's going to have to get into another fight
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with the left to try to control spending somehow well and that is when they're going to skewer him
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again and rebel against him again to be fair to him um he is inheriting a bit of a shit show
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there's no question about that he is yes so my what i was really wanting to say about this the
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whole burn and bounce thing is if the left of his two things one is the left of his party going to
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give him any breathing space so are they going to try and undermine him at every possible turn the
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way they did with starmer basically i think they are they might get a small amount of breath but i
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think oh quite quickly they'll be like no do what we want we cooed you into power here you have to
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do what we want now and he's not going to want to do that he's going to want to try and actually be
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a prime minister right i think i think the burnham i'm sorry samson can you get up the politico
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poll of polls please just uh because there is actually a very small burn and bounce but
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when you see it in proportion you realize okay that's nothing um but i think i think he's more
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uh got more sympathies from the hard left because he does come across as i'm a lefty in my sentiments
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right so i actually i think that he will be able to sort of string them out for a longer period of
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time than Keir Starmer would be able to so maybe he can make it till 2029 I don't know but you are
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going to be you are completely correct they're constantly going to be chewing on his rear end
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as he's trying to get real things done yeah well yeah because as soon as he comes up against the
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reality of actually being the prime minister and there's certain things you just can't do
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unless you want the economy to default you want the pounds have to be devalued you don't you don't
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want to actually look like a full full-blown cuckold retard on the foreign stage a number of
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things he's going to have to do they will hate it imagine what they'll hate these things are
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going to say i'd like to borrow billions so we can nationalize a bunch of industries and the
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bond market's like what the andy burnham and how would he go down if and when well when he has to
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meet people like trump putin g well he seems actually quite affable so i think on a personal
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level he'd probably get on with them fairly well if keir starmer could do it i'm sure andy burnham
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could do it well i mean kiss i couldn't do it i mean he got along with trump well for like the
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first six months and then they completely fell out trump's going kept saying this is no churchill
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this is no churchill like refused to shake his hands and stuff sure they totally totally fell
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out anyway look there you go so yeah you can see there is like a minor burn and bump i'll just say
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that's the labor party not specifically burnham yeah yeah there are two different things slightly
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i mean they're correlated yeah yeah of course but this is this is the effect so if you go back
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to may labor's on 17 and it's you know since the makefield by-election has gone up to 21
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so it's okay that's that's a nice four-point increase yep when you were the third party
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bringing you to the second party but you're only just ahead of the conservatives and you're still
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significantly behind reform like this this but it has taken away from the greens right so the the
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the the lefty flank of labor that peeled off to the greens probably going back to labor but that's
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only a few percent so and the last thing to say here is there was one angle of the left of the
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parliamentary labor party and then the other element is the country yes um whether how well
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he's going to play at the general election let's just for argument's sake assume it is in 2029
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because he has he has ruled out a number of times calling a general election how well people hated
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is also being advised by a Goldman banker, right?
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And I have a sense that it isn't going to go that well.
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Nixon gutted the space and nuclear programs, FM.
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And they had a massive financial problem and oil crisis in the early 70s.
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So America suddenly didn't have endless money the way they'd had
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quite suddenly during like 71 or whatever there's reasons for that yeah which is the reason that we
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lost the great american car because they had to sort of economize and then the 70s cars went
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the opec crisis yes the opec crisis as opposed to the 60s cars which were just brilliant
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let's go i feel the xbox layoffs are being misreported by our side it's being portrayed
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as a waning of the woke when it's really a coup of the corpos take the axing of the venerable id
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the coding team was cut to a single guy breaking a 40-year chain of knowledge of the best coders
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on Earth. Likewise, all of the senior positions were cut. These are the directors and creatives
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who make a project what it is, but no mention of any cuts to management or HR. Mind also,
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the woman who was put in charge of Xbox, I believe, was put there to sabotage the division,
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and she's been rewarded for the successful slaughter by an appointment to the Federal
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Reserve as an advisor on job creation, despite axing 30,000 people, myself among them.
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Yeah, obviously, sorry to hear that. I've not been following this in detail or anything,
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but i've seen headlines pop up and it's just like right okay there must be something quite
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a lot to this but i i agree with you it doesn't look like it's about woke uh it looks like as he
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says it's about the corpos just being essentially greasing their way up the system like failing
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upwards in the system yes you know because like she should have saved x no no she's just ruining
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xbox right okay get her in the government oh yeah brilliant just can't wait kathleen kennedy
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syndrome just failing upwards endlessly one thing i'll say about that guy is it was his name was it
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Steve H, he makes good sense in good video comments.
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One thing I will say is, quite often in the last few I've seen,
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I can't help but just concentrate on the line that the guy's taking.
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He also happens to be saying something interesting.
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I literally had to divide it in my brain between,
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not just enjoy the experience of watching him ride his bike.
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Sophie says, we're going to the Ann Woodigan murderer.
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Apparently the brother's killer lives in the area.
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Yeah, I couldn't get any solid concrete information on this,
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but anyway, presumably the first guy they arrested was the brother.
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So it's perfectly feasible that the killer recognized the house on telly
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as he had seen it as he was visiting his brother previously.
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it's not somewhere where you would normally pass you wouldn't just see it on the way past
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and it's surrounded by what looks like a hedge that sort of blocks a lot of the view i'm
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suspecting yeah yeah yeah jack says reasonable speculation is key to critical thinking and the
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natural result of a curious mind it is not ultimately unethical to point to the point
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of warranting state intervention when they say please don't do not engage in speculation
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i hear leave leave this to the adults kids or else well i i i personally hear um we've got a
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narrative to protect so don't think hard about this because if you think hard about this our
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narrative is in danger um omar says we've been trained to read between the lines through years
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of lying by omission that's a great point that's such a great point it's like we we have developed
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the skill of like okay what have they said what aren't they saying you know and that's you know
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that's where the real information is literally a collapse into low trust yes it's it's literally
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a collapse into no longer trusting the institutions because they're serving their own interests not
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you yeah it's a non-political murder and the fans eat uh no hard crime had ever been committed
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against white britons you are not allowed to be a victim because we defined you as ineligible for
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the category yeah and the thing is as well like i mean who knows what's going to come out right
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well you know we get like his discord messages or whatever comes out and like this you know he
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could be some weird trans activist or something who just had a real thing where he's spurging
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about am would come for years or something and so he's like right okay who knows like i don't know
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but that's the point isn't it you know like it's hard to believe it's not gonna be political
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hard to believe alex says uh premeditated is such a curious word to use in the uk there's
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only one charge of murder in us and canada murder is split in two one the murder is
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murder one is premeditated murder two is not both are intentional murder in the uk is always
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or murder in Britain. It's manslaughter, don't we?
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Manslaughter is when you just accidentally kill someone.
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Like you were driving along and you hit someone in a car
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by accident or something. That'd be manslaughter.
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everything the police in the UK says or does is political.
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colonial police it's another thing the left say when they want to when it suits them they will
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happily shout it from the rooftops everything's political yeah when it's in their favor to make
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that argument no everything's political no no no what you're saying is nonsense and and you're
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wrong because everything's political when they want to make that argument exactly and when it's
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not it's like no this isn't political don't make this political and do you know do you know where
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that line comes from i don't know this feminist screed in the 1960s where they were like even
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housework's political yeah in a way they're kind of right actually it is it is i would argue near
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not everything nearly everything is political though well i mean can be they're right certainly
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can be if if politics is the management of power within society then yeah everything is actually
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most elements of society exactly yeah exactly if power is managed to there is someone and nots
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then the haves and the have-nots there's a political dimension to this and of course the
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Police literally are an organization that specifically are endowed with power by the system to protect the system primarily.
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Everything is political when you dismiss the existence of natural law.
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As in, housework becomes political when you dismiss the reality that there is a natural law that divides the roles of men and women.
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But the point is, even without having a sort of philosophical basis to it, on the face of it, if there is power that is divided and divvied out in society, whether you agree with how it's done or not, that is an intrinsically political event.
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And it was actually us living in the sort of naive paradise of innocence, not really thinking about these things.
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They're the ones who are like, yeah, no, everything's political.
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I think some things aren't like enjoying a meadow
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and putting a buttercup under your chin to see if you like butter.
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Why isn't there a Somali kid enjoying the meadow?
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Well, no, literally, that's what I was going to say.
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It's your meadow, not his meadow, therefore it's a political.
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But certainly the police, when the actual commissioners
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and controllers and things are actually political offices,
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You can't tell me it's not fucking political, bro.
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If my taxes pay for it, trust me, it's political.
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I don't believe this is the correct suspect solely on the fact
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that he could drive four hours and wouldn't need to stretch
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after driving that far to engage in physical assault with battle.
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It wouldn't surprise me that them refusing to release the CCTV footage
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is because of the perpetrator not being the same as the alleged suspect.
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i mean it's so weird though it's odd it's really weird like because he then just drove home
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it's like okay but he must have a plan like you you would have a bug out plan of some sort if he
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drove to an airport and they got on a plane and that would at least make sense to fly back to
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russia or something or wherever he's gone that would at least make sense but uh michael says
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i'd forgotten about ann she was a staple when i was younger she always seemed genuinely kind
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and caring even when cutting people down yeah well that's the thing right there's there's this
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there's this kind of um attitude in british politics that peter hitchens still quite well
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embodies yes look i might be angry at you but it's a kind of familial anger i don't i don't
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question the legitimacy of you belonging to my tribe but i am going to give you a dressing down
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know your place right but i'm not kicking you out whereas ideology creates hard barriers that
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kicks people out so you don't even need the dressing down anymore um mervedon says there
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should be an upper age limit for people to hold political office and if in office they pass this
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age they should step down yeah uh maxine waters hasn't been seen in public three weeks now
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believe it diane feinstein is a great example is she in fact is she still i think she died
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she did she die i think diane feinstein died yeah sometimes you get them and they're like 98
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and they cut like that her last vote she was clearly not compass mentis she was right there
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right uh if i remember correctly at the very least like a driving test if there's a question
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over your ability your actual ability to understand what's going on then yeah you need to be stripped
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of that license or office or something if you if you're shown that you can't do it there's a good
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point here from justin right um on bumham and politics now that's your name for him isn't it
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andy bumham no sternum burnham yeah i cannot help but feel we need real consequences for blatant
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failure whilst in power uh may be bad form but considering ann widdekombe's murder but we do need
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to ensure that liars, criminals, and traitors are dealt with
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actually is necessary, right? Because, I mean, like
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and he's just swanning around thinking, oh, I might return to
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just completely ruin the country and then swan off with my golden parachute it just can't be
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allowed commit crimes i think boris and blair and others but particularly let's say boris and blair
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they committed crimes against us they should be held to account for this
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uh come to think that the tories are britain's eunuchs so many of them are gay sex pests and
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therefore incapable of understanding why speed running demographic replacement will radicalize
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native brits since they themselves will never have a family um yeah i wonder how long it will
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go for labor to get the burn and bounce to burn them at the stake haha and all these left labor
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politicians says mermidon who have written to burnham should be named let the country see who
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is destroying them and not the party leader and obscuring the crowd behind them and again let's
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again i just want transparency yes i just want to see some transparency anyway uh join us in
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