The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1463

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters, episode 1,463 for Thursday, the 16th of

00:00:07.340 July, 2026. I'm your host, Luca, joined today by Firas and Harry. Hello. And today we're going to

00:00:13.240 be talking to you all about how everyone on earth gets a visa. I assume this means to go to...

00:00:20.060 Britain. Yes, I thought that might be the country you were referring to. How unfortunate. We're

00:00:25.320 then going to be talking about how the establishment really are putting their all into backing

00:00:31.300 bin face. And then we're going to be talking about the World Cup and what was last night

00:00:36.320 truly one of the games of all time. So before we do, obviously just to let you know, Islander

00:00:43.180 6 is now out, ladies and gentlemen. Do go and get your copy from the website now. There

00:00:48.540 are many remarkable essays in it, all made with, of course, Rory's fantastic design.

00:00:53.620 as always, some really wonderful essays in there centering on the theme of what is to be done

00:00:59.900 at this very, very late hour that we find ourselves in, not only, of course, across Britain and

00:01:05.760 Europe, but the wider West as well. And so I would really encourage you to get it. It's on the

00:01:11.280 website. Please do. And all right, over to you, Firas. Yes. So apparently the government's plan

00:01:19.480 is to keep on giving infinity visas to everybody

00:01:23.940 with the express and deliberate policy

00:01:28.100 of bankrupting every single individual in Britain.

00:01:31.660 Let's sort of go over some of the information here.

00:01:36.400 So we just found out that 18 people in Gaza

00:01:41.180 won the right to move to Britain

00:01:43.100 based on one woman from Gaza

00:01:46.980 who had acquired British citizenship.

00:01:49.480 She won a ruling in the courts allowing both her parents, a brother, his wife, and four children, a sister and four children, and another sister and her husband and three children.

00:02:06.280 All of them have won the right to come to the United Kingdom on human rights grounds.

00:02:11.800 uh apparently this is under the uh echar right to family life clause uh an infamous clause that

00:02:21.020 has been used and abused in all kinds of ways and uh this was even though most of these people

00:02:28.340 couldn't speak any english had absolutely no connection to britain etc etc and they were

00:02:33.560 granted anonymity so that you couldn't sort of you know judge them too harshly but they can't

00:02:39.540 even speak English. No, they can't speak English. No, they can't even speak English. And this is

00:02:45.840 the judge in question. And you could sort of look at that face and think of Helen of Troy, I suppose.

00:02:55.820 Now, just continuing with this, some individuals on X have been doing an incredible work,

00:03:04.500 an incredible amount of work documenting what's been going on with the rest of British visa

00:03:11.580 programs. And apparently they found that this lovely little establishment, which sells vapes

00:03:18.080 and mobile phone accessories and perfumes, has now got the right to sponsor workers

00:03:25.520 on skilled visas. Skilled? Skilled, skilled. It takes a lot of skill to stand behind that counter.

00:03:32.720 With no customers all day.

00:03:34.460 With no customers all day as a front for money laundering.

00:03:38.340 We had one of these in my little market town open up.

00:03:42.300 It wasn't exactly like this,

00:03:43.780 although they all do look the same and operate the same.

00:03:46.820 It was one of those ones with a hideous and garish storefront

00:03:50.880 that was in all bright neon colours,

00:03:53.080 and it had one of those signs that was just covered.

00:03:55.060 Is that mandatory?

00:03:55.840 I think so.

00:03:56.700 It's one of the things that they mandate

00:03:57.980 for when you get the visa to get over here.

00:04:00.200 They had one of those signs that was just like loads of sweets

00:04:02.700 and stuff um nobody ever went in there unless of course i was walking back from the pub at about

00:04:07.860 2 a.m at which point they were still open strange opening hours for a sweet shop um and there would

00:04:13.480 typically be large gangs of um hooded youths in there of um debatable ethnic background uh and i

00:04:21.020 always thought you know what what strange time to get peckish for your midnight snack eh but

00:04:26.300 who am i to judge would you would you be shocked to know that there'd recently been an antisocial

00:04:31.800 behavior order put in, and the shop's been shut down, which I'm very glad to see, to be honest.

00:04:39.020 It would imply that somebody actually did something. Yes. That's the most shocking aspect.

00:04:43.460 I live in a place where local homeowners are very aware of how new additions to the local area

00:04:50.980 affect the local culture and also their home prices as well, so I'm grateful for that. But

00:04:57.560 But it did mean that I looked at the sign outside, and it was saying that, you know,

00:05:01.400 we believe there has been criminal activity being done on this...

00:05:04.400 Shocking.

00:05:05.400 ...on this premises.

00:05:06.400 And, you know, I, for one, am shocked.

00:05:08.080 All of that sherbet that they were selling looked perfectly legitimate to me.

00:05:11.480 Yes, well...

00:05:13.440 But all that to say, you can actually, probably, if you organise in local community associations

00:05:20.120 and groups, you can probably put in some kind of complaint to your local council.

00:05:23.920 Because every single one of these businesses will have something dodgy going on that they could legitimately be shut down over.

00:05:32.520 Of course.

00:05:33.480 More shockingly from the procurement files here, an account on X, strongly recommended follow, there are 79 different vape shops that are allowed to bring in skilled workers.

00:05:49.460 And in bringing in those skilled workers into the workforce, it's going to create just an endless multiplication, where they sell their shops, they sponsor more people, and on and on it goes.

00:06:00.980 Exactly. And none of this looks legitimate at first glance, but we know that officers working with trading standards have been threatened and harassed and had their homes attacked when they actually looked into these businesses.

00:06:14.700 and it's rather obvious that the government knows that this is happening but hey this is GDP

00:06:19.860 pure raw GDP and if we were wondering it's not just care homes this entity here called

00:06:30.140 Momo Antaric Care Limited I'm assuming Momo is short for Mohammed was assigned 648 certificates

00:06:38.480 of sponsorship from 2021 to 2024. Apple had 687, Microsoft 505. They had six employees.

00:06:53.240 So how on earth could they be assigned 648 certificates of sponsorship for

00:06:58.600 care workers? I don't know. Is this a photo of the location of the home?

00:07:03.960 It looks like it, yes. Which looks just like a home. It doesn't look like it.

00:07:07.200 I mean, they must be packed in there like sardines,

00:07:09.700 because I struggle to see how 648 would be needed,

00:07:12.920 even if you're spreading it out over time.

00:07:14.840 To be fair, JJ Social Care Limited was assigned, apparently, 491 certificates,

00:07:23.140 allegedly, according to the procurement files, from 21 to 2024, Bison 490.

00:07:31.360 This is amazing. It was all under, you know, the Boris and Rishi governments.

00:07:34.360 Yes. And they had 31 employees.

00:07:37.080 Now, I don't know if every assigned certificate of sponsorship was given,

00:07:41.320 but I don't understand why it wouldn't be.

00:07:43.720 I mean, why wouldn't it be? I don't get it.

00:07:45.720 And the changes under Johnson, following Brexit being,

00:07:49.480 we got Brexit done finally, were specifically done through the social care visas and such,

00:07:54.680 so that they would open up these new routes for people to come in,

00:07:58.680 which seems to, because of where lots of these care homes are going to be,

00:08:02.520 have been explicitly targeted to get these people into rural leafy shires.

00:08:09.760 That is the explicit objective with, I think, was it Lord, what's his name's sister?

00:08:18.000 Lord Finkelstein's sister who was running the agriculture regulator

00:08:24.420 who was also pushing for the diversification of rural England

00:08:28.160 because it's not diverse enough and that is upsetting.

00:08:31.540 I saw some Sikhs bathing in a river recently in a very lovely English town. 1.00

00:08:38.040 I wasn't thrilled. 1.00

00:08:41.000 Didn't feel like joining?

00:08:42.520 No, thank you.

00:08:43.740 No, thank you.

00:08:46.220 Again, you see another random care company with this registered address sponsoring hundreds of people.

00:08:55.120 And you see it again and again and again and again.

00:08:58.540 and uh you know they knew the government knew that this was being massively abused

00:09:06.280 uh they had in 2023 just through the care worker visas they had issued 613,000 and change

00:09:16.300 presumably workers and their dependents and they just kept it going indefinitely well it's not

00:09:24.740 like the government were going to turn around also and say, you know, this is all looking a bit sore.

00:09:29.100 The government set up incentives for them to do this.

00:09:31.800 Well, yes.

00:09:32.220 With hospitals, some hospitals were given subsidies if they hired foreign nurses over British-trained nurses.

00:09:39.520 This is what they were wanting to happen.

00:09:41.540 Yes.

00:09:42.220 This was a deliberate policy choice.

00:09:44.260 And anybody who says that it was accidental is lying.

00:09:47.680 Starmer, like Preeti Patel.

00:09:49.240 Yeah.

00:09:49.440 Yeah. And once they get here as well, they're basically going to incentivize paths to citizenship as well, because as the center ground, the old parties of, well, Labour really, is obviously collapsing as well.

00:10:02.060 It's a good way to, you know, cement yourself with more voters, just as you see them doing in Spain with all the illegals at the moment. 0.82

00:10:10.060 And just in case you were wondering what is the plan here for those people who have come on these visas, you hear Ms. Oluomo of Derby, that classic English name. 0.98

00:10:23.160 Derby.

00:10:23.440 Derby.

00:10:23.880 Derby, sorry.

00:10:24.420 Derby, my mother's side of the family, traces back lineage there for probably about a thousand years.

00:10:30.000 I don't remember seeing any Oluomos.

00:10:34.280 those. Yes, well, they're discussing this issue and they are insisting that there shouldn't be 0.98

00:10:39.580 any reforms to ILR because the agreement, as they understood it, was that they would work for five

00:10:45.260 years and get access to benefits. And the time is running short. If only we all had the same deal,

00:10:51.700 eh? I would alter that deal so that they get none of those things. I mean,

00:10:55.880 the allegation is changing the rules now after people have committed, worked, and contributed

00:11:03.080 is not fair. Contributed by working minimum wage jobs that pay 10 times what you would get at home,

00:11:09.360 just to be clear what the contribution is. And how much tax will they have, not to go into,

00:11:13.480 oh, at least they're paying tax, like how much tax will they have paid in those five years?

00:11:17.200 Practically. Yeah, and they're going to be claiming back if they want to get benefits

00:11:21.000 far more than they ever put in because these people are leeches. Yeah. Also, you don't want 0.94

00:11:25.400 to frame this entire conversation in terms of fairness, because if you do... That's a problem.

00:11:32.820 And you hear British Indian voices, an account promoting the interests of British Indians, saying that, no, there shouldn't be any scrapping of ILR.

00:11:42.560 It is sacred.

00:11:44.060 It would be unfair to change the rules of the game after the 80th minute just because you don't like the score.

00:11:51.580 The score is you're going to lose a lot of money.

00:11:54.440 And you're going to have your country transformed forever.

00:11:57.960 Right.

00:11:58.600 And if you object to that, this is fundamentally unfair.

00:12:02.540 Exactly. When they say this, it's like, oh, changing the rules of the game in the 80th minute.

00:12:07.100 This isn't a game. This is our civilization.

00:12:10.340 This is not something that you can just walk away from and say, oh, we'll have a better match next time.

00:12:16.560 Eventually, there will come a point where we just lose the entire thing.

00:12:21.040 And then Britain never gets to play anything or do anything ever again.

00:12:24.600 The people who never invented the Wii.

00:12:25.840 Yes. And Based Data UK, which is another very, very good account, did a bit of research on this, some very high quality research on this, to just look at who's issuing these low-skilled visas and what does their representation look like.

00:12:44.080 43% of low-skilled visa sponsors

00:12:48.480 Have at least one non-British director

00:12:50.820 So

00:12:53.360 If it smells like a scam

00:12:56.700 It looks like a scam

00:12:57.620 Because the numbers kind of suggest this

00:12:59.400 Some nationalities appear as directors

00:13:01.880 Of low-skilled visa sponsors

00:13:03.280 Far out of proportion to their presence

00:13:05.040 In the United Kingdom population

00:13:06.820 The numbers aren't even close

00:13:09.500 Turkish

00:13:10.660 Nine times over-represented

00:13:12.960 Sri Lankan

00:13:13.980 eight times overrepresented Chinese seven times Pakistanis six times Bangladeshis six times 0.96

00:13:20.700 Indians five times overrepresented relative to their share of some restraint from the Indians 0.98

00:13:26.480 if anything well I think that's more just to do with how many there are in this country 0.98

00:13:31.460 yeah probably so a British born person has roughly 6.8 directorships for 10,000 people

00:13:39.440 and low-skilled visa sponsors.

00:13:41.920 A Turkish-born person has 62 per 10,000,

00:13:45.840 nine times the British rate. 1.00

00:13:47.760 And he does the rest of the numbers for them all.

00:13:50.920 And these are the nationalities of the directors.

00:13:54.500 Indians leading the charge. 1.00

00:13:56.000 Ha, spoke too soon. 1.00

00:13:57.320 Then Pakistanis, Chinese, Italians doing a decent... 0.99

00:14:01.280 I wonder if they have some Albanian heritage, though,

00:14:04.840 and an Italian passport.

00:14:06.280 Might just be pizza shops.

00:14:07.780 could be like the the deep deep need for pizza americans french bangladeshis germans irish and

00:14:15.200 sri lankan uh this is you know and and then they go into a sectoral breakdown which is really

00:14:23.300 interesting convenience stores did you know that convenience stores could issue visas for low-skilled

00:14:28.860 workers or high-skilled workers surely if it's skilled immigration well yes yeah stacking shelves

00:14:33.820 is a lot more difficult than it used to be.

00:14:35.700 Apparently. 1.00

00:14:37.380 So Indians and Pakistanis dominate in convenience stores. 1.00

00:14:42.420 In fast food, it's Pakistanis and Indians, again, 1.00

00:14:46.240 and Bangladeshis. 1.00

00:14:48.160 In hair and beauty, well, 1.00

00:14:49.940 the Vietnamese have got that market cornered. 1.00

00:14:54.660 Retail has the highest rate of any sector. 1.00

00:14:58.320 So you're importing people to work low-skilled retail jobs 0.71

00:15:02.440 that should be going as a summer job

00:15:04.760 or as somebody who's decided that high school,

00:15:07.500 that a university isn't for them or what have you.

00:15:12.780 And hospitality is the only category

00:15:15.060 where Western European nationality leads. 1.00

00:15:17.660 It is the Irish. 0.98

00:15:19.900 So these people are all just getting visas. 0.98

00:15:23.300 And if you ever fall into any bother,

00:15:25.700 if things start to look a little bit difficult for you,

00:15:28.620 you know that there's an entire industry

00:15:30.360 of human rights lawyers.

00:15:32.440 to do everything they can and everything within their power

00:15:34.940 to alleviate your position and put the burden on the taxpayer.

00:15:38.400 Well, this is one of the interesting changes.

00:15:41.400 We'll see if it pans out.

00:15:42.820 We'll see how it actually gets enforced.

00:15:44.860 But the vote taken on Monday for Shabana Mahmood's immigration reforms

00:15:50.200 that Andy Burnham, of course, did another flip and voted in favour of,

00:15:54.420 which was quite an interesting change, not entirely unsurprising,

00:15:58.520 was that one of the things that it was setting out to do

00:16:01.440 is to massively make it a lot more difficult

00:16:06.220 for human rights lawyers to be able to plead

00:16:08.680 under Section 8 of the Human Rights Act,

00:16:10.660 the URT and Human Rights Act.

00:16:12.000 We'll see if it actually does anything

00:16:14.020 or if they just decide to take a different act.

00:16:15.320 Well, the judges might decide to ignore it

00:16:17.280 because the judges might interpret it

00:16:19.360 as loosely as they want to.

00:16:21.420 And we just saw that with the whole Gazan family,

00:16:23.740 18 of them, based on one person. 0.82

00:16:27.040 One person bringing in 18 people.

00:16:28.740 um and then again on base data just to see where this is going i mean these projections are

00:16:36.720 terrifying the british becoming a minority in your lifetime if not in your lifetime in your

00:16:43.740 children's lifetime this is really where this is going and some of these numbers are scary the 0.86

00:16:49.100 percentage of white british pupils in schools in britain is just under 60 percent yeah under 60

00:16:56.400 percent. I used to work in schools around London when I worked there. Went to quite a lot of them,

00:17:03.300 just doing some supply work. And you just frequently go into classrooms with no British

00:17:08.240 children whatsoever. Yeah. Just all the time. And in 2051, the Brits become a minority.

00:17:16.700 Possibly sooner. Running out of time. With the Muslim rate growing quickly, 0.60

00:17:21.060 and the christian share dropping quickly and with the percentage of people who whose main language 1.00

00:17:27.920 isn't english constantly increasing so this this isn't just theoretical this is total dispossession

00:17:36.020 and this is conscious government policy well it's a race isn't it because they can see

00:17:41.020 that the um the british population are becoming more and more alienated from the system and are

00:17:46.920 really looking for a way out of this absolute death trap that they're constructing around us. 0.93

00:17:53.220 And at the same time, and so it's incentivizing them to speed things up because they realize

00:17:59.420 that they're running out of time. And if they can just get it over the demographic line

00:18:03.940 to consolidate their position, then they dramatically strengthen their own hand.

00:18:09.740 Yeah. Part of me just thinks that some of the ILR reforms which are going through and

00:18:16.500 are being pushed through to the point where, you know, a, I'd say former Corbynite, but former

00:18:21.880 Blairite, former Corbynite, former Starmerite, anything under the sun, really, like Burnham will

00:18:28.360 flip on it and go, actually, I am in favor of all of these reforms, is possibly because the 1.00

00:18:34.100 administrative and managerial state have just looked at the numbers and gone, shit, shit. 0.98

00:18:39.720 if we if it's had alistair campbell saying that france should be proud that it only has 1.00

00:18:45.480 one french player on its seat alistair campbell is uh an idiot well alistair campbell is he's not 1.00

00:18:53.320 no no no do not make that mistake alistair campbell is not stupid do not make that mistake 1.00

00:18:59.500 these people aren't doing this out of misguided incompetence it's important to see that well

00:19:06.980 Because Keir Starmer, as a sort of parting shot before leaving office, he changed the India deal to basically make sure that the Indians don't have to pay their, what's it called, national insurance contributions if they get hired in Britain.

00:19:28.560 So he's deliberately decided as a sort of parting gift to make it easier and cheaper to hire Indians rather than British. 0.96

00:19:36.980 these aren't accidents i'm not so these aren't coming from stupidity i'm not saying i'm not 0.96

00:19:42.560 saying they're accidents i do i do genuinely think that alistair campbell is uh an ideologically 0.93

00:19:47.600 captured burke personally yes but part of me just wonders if the administrative state has seen the

00:19:53.720 bill that they're going to have to foot as soon as ilr goes through for all of these people and gone 0.81

00:19:59.060 uh the entire country will collapse overnight maybe but they're bragging that they achieved

00:20:05.200 0.1% growth.

00:20:07.360 Well, that might just be what they call spin.

00:20:11.700 Yeah, well, okay.

00:20:12.700 We got growth!

00:20:13.880 Like, they were so shocked that the economy grew at all

00:20:17.080 that they needed to broadcast that.

00:20:20.180 Yes.

00:20:20.720 And 0.1% growth is not going to fund millions of Indians

00:20:26.260 and all of their dependents claiming benefits.

00:20:28.580 No, no, no, no.

00:20:30.260 Because that is part of the process here.

00:20:32.560 It's not just that they're bringing in these people to work for criminal enterprises like vape shops and barbershops and questionable takeaways and things like that.

00:20:43.980 There are also endless scams within the government that help finance this.

00:20:49.520 And one of the biggest ones is the taxi scam.

00:20:52.160 because the state mandates free transportation

00:20:56.060 for certain groups.

00:20:58.440 This whole industry has developed

00:21:01.060 to the extent that Birmingham City Council

00:21:03.960 would spend almost 100 million pounds

00:21:06.760 transporting children to and from school

00:21:09.660 at the taxpayer's expense.

00:21:13.580 And they're not going to be...

00:21:15.320 And one company can collect

00:21:16.980 almost 20 million pounds of that.

00:21:18.900 Haven't Birmingham Council already gone bankrupt

00:21:21.360 once in the past five years. Yes, they have. But you see the same thing. If you go through

00:21:27.240 the feed of the procurement files, it's insane. It's everywhere. If you go through the base data

00:21:33.460 account, it's insane. It's everywhere. And you see these contracts and you see the spending by

00:21:38.200 councils on things like translation services, housing asylum seekers, services for migrants,

00:21:44.260 et cetera, et cetera. The Ukrainians take a tiny chunk of that money, but they get all the publicity.

00:21:49.200 The rest of the money ends up in all kinds of random scams. 0.99

00:21:56.300 Buckinghamshire Council spending 40 million pounds on transportation.

00:22:01.340 Neil's Taxi is Limited, this entity, taking 6 million pounds almost.

00:22:07.600 This is just organized looting.

00:22:10.480 This is just organized looting.

00:22:12.580 That's what's happening.

00:22:13.460 So they're bringing these people in and they're helping them loot the country.

00:22:18.840 This is what happens when you let those people also occupy positions

00:22:22.520 within local government as well, which is they're going to go,

00:22:24.880 well, my cousin runs this business, so let's get some over to him.

00:22:27.660 Of course.

00:22:28.140 My cousin's cousin runs this other business,

00:22:30.340 so we'll get some, my sister's brother's uncle,

00:22:34.020 which would also be my uncle, I suppose.

00:22:36.820 It's difficult to keep track of these things.

00:22:39.340 He needs some as well, so let's get some over there.

00:22:41.960 And some good old remittances to send back to wherever I'm from.

00:22:45.940 Well, I mean, yeah, that's a good question, actually.

00:22:47.600 how much of this money being funneled into these businesses

00:22:50.300 is then getting funneled back to their home countries?

00:22:52.780 As remittances, of course.

00:22:54.260 Of course. 1.00

00:22:55.220 They all brag about mansions in Pakistan. 1.00

00:22:59.000 Sounds like it would be a lot nicer for them to live in a mansion in Pakistan 1.00

00:23:02.140 than it is to live in a council flat over here. 1.00

00:23:03.920 Well, they wouldn't be able to afford the servants 1.00

00:23:05.880 if they didn't have the British taxpayers funding them.

00:23:11.460 And then just to sort of wrap this up,

00:23:13.960 one of the last things that Starmer did

00:23:16.420 was decide to expand the section of the Equalities Act

00:23:22.500 or the interpretation of a part of the Equalities Act

00:23:24.720 that requires equal pay

00:23:26.160 to be interpreted as to give equal pay

00:23:29.860 to work of equivalent value or rated as equivalent.

00:23:34.520 Now, this was one of the main reasons

00:23:36.000 that the Birmingham Council went bankrupt 1.00

00:23:37.880 because it was paying bin men 0.96

00:23:40.520 more than it was paying typists

00:23:42.600 or teacher's assistants or whatever

00:23:44.040 because that's a much more demanding job.

00:23:46.420 than some other jobs and it is male dominated whereas the other jobs were female dominated

00:23:54.860 and it's almost bankrupting next and Tesco is facing a lawsuit over it and a bunch of other

00:24:01.860 companies are facing lawsuits over it. Now he wants to make sure that it's not just based on

00:24:07.100 sex discrimination but also on race meaning that if the for example local counsel has a CEO who's

00:24:16.400 white and a binman who isn't that can eventually justify some kind of class

00:24:22.940 action lawsuit arguing that the value of the work of the CEO of the council is

00:24:29.360 equal to the value of the work of the binman and therefore that binman should

00:24:36.080 receive a lot more pay backdated creating an insane liability that leads

00:24:42.740 to bankruptcy. And as more and more of these groups come in, the idea is going to be to try

00:24:48.800 to set up recruitment agencies, for example, send them to work, then sue the employers based on a

00:24:57.660 racial discrimination claim to just destroy more and more entities. And the laws are already set

00:25:03.740 up in place that even if the employer can recognize that that's what's about to happen,

00:25:07.120 And it's illegal for them not to hire them anyway.

00:25:09.140 There you go.

00:25:10.200 There you go. 1.00

00:25:11.240 So this isn't stupidity. 1.00

00:25:13.220 This is naked malice intended to basically bring your living standard to a Lagos slum dweller. 1.00

00:25:24.260 That's the ultimate aim of all of this. 1.00

00:25:27.160 That's the objective of these policies. 0.97

00:25:29.460 And if you have that level of deprivation and destruction and that level of diversity,

00:25:35.020 plus with the new technologies to survey everybody and watch their social media and control their 0.89

00:25:41.320 banking and and and you just become a lot easier to control you create a global slave class

00:25:47.620 and the aim of these policies is to make sure that you are a leading part of this new global

00:25:54.040 slave class whereas the moneyed interests the people who own these mega corporations etc etc

00:26:00.060 they end up being free from it all

00:26:03.980 and able to do whatever they want

00:26:05.280 so this isn't accidental

00:26:07.980 these are deliberate policies

00:26:09.200 and the outcome of them can be foreseen

00:26:12.260 and is foreseen by the people

00:26:14.900 planning them and implementing them

00:26:16.520 so everybody gets the visa

00:26:19.980 until the whole world breaks

00:26:21.900 well that was a why

00:26:26.820 sorry about that

00:26:28.480 it's not quite all right

00:26:29.840 uh yeah okay do you want to go through your rumble around yeah sure sure uh let's see

00:26:35.180 the engaged few today i learned that the uk visa office is run by oprah yeah sort of uh

00:26:43.460 scotty guy says we i propose we restore the british empire install fides as lord protector

00:26:50.880 of lebanon and turn a blind eye to any improprieties he commits deal you'll be better

00:26:57.260 under the brits and the french for us it'll be it'll be even better i will have a soft spot for

00:27:01.320 the french but uh deal uh sigil stone today my sky is blotted out by wildfire smoke from canada

00:27:08.900 hundreds of miles away the sun is bare as a barely visible orange blob i want canada fed posted you

00:27:15.980 are not alone uh that's a random name this shows that even the legal migrants aren't truly here

00:27:22.660 legally which is why we need to talk about uh wanted versus unwanted migration these migrants

00:27:28.800 legality is irrelevant when nobody wants exactly and when they're saying to you that the deal is

00:27:33.880 i work hard for five years and you take care of me for the rest of my life i mean

00:27:37.800 what what like what kind of bargain is this what kind of you know it's like well the state the

00:27:46.240 british state might have promised you that but however our states have been colossal traitors

00:27:50.400 and so we're tearing up that paperwork.

00:27:52.960 Scott again says,

00:27:54.240 Idiocracy was actually very positive

00:27:56.120 versus where we are headed.

00:27:59.680 Engaged Few says, 1.00

00:28:01.000 Firas is right,

00:28:01.720 never blame malice 1.00

00:28:02.680 for what can be more easily attributed to stupidity, 1.00

00:28:05.480 but when malice is clear, 1.00

00:28:06.700 it needs to be called out.

00:28:07.700 Yes.

00:28:08.040 Well, again, my point is not necessarily

00:28:09.780 that there's no malice.

00:28:10.740 Obviously, there's malice. 1.00

00:28:11.780 Alistair Campbell is an evil, evil man. 0.99

00:28:13.620 Yes. 1.00

00:28:13.900 Also, he's an idiot 1.00

00:28:15.000 because they're letting their hatred for us 1.00

00:28:18.360 overtake practical considerations like,

00:28:22.260 will this collapse the country?

00:28:25.660 Yes.

00:28:27.440 Sigilstone with a banger there, which we won't read. 1.00

00:28:30.960 The hapsification, I fear we're edging closer and closer 1.00

00:28:33.460 to vigilantism and civil conflict, 1.00

00:28:35.440 where you can't vote your way out of it.

00:28:37.020 That's what I've... Yes.

00:28:38.740 It's a concern.

00:28:39.620 It is.

00:28:40.080 Taking your mouse.

00:28:41.000 Yes.

00:28:42.060 Thieves.

00:28:44.060 What are you going to do about it?

00:28:45.600 I'll take it back after you've presented your segment.

00:28:47.860 I thought so.

00:28:50.140 How very English. It's the most English fight I've ever seen.

00:28:55.320 You've not been outside the pub at 3am too often then, have you?

00:28:58.580 But we have.

00:29:01.400 Warning taken.

00:29:03.600 So they say that the past is a different country,

00:29:07.440 and that many people are looking back to a rose-tinted history

00:29:11.940 which never existed and could never exist again.

00:29:15.560 and they mainly apply this to people on the right, they accuse it as being something associated with

00:29:22.380 fascism and something that needs to be avoided at all costs. Well in this segment I'm going to lay

00:29:27.980 out how the left are equally guilty of wanting to return to a past that never really existed and was

00:29:35.480 in fact far worse than they would like to admit. Now even if it is comparatively better off than

00:29:41.240 we are now, and that past is balmy, bonkers Britain, otherwise known as Silly Sausage

00:29:47.820 Britain in a recent coinage from The Guardian, and that Count Binface is the physical manifestation

00:29:56.700 of this yearning for a return, with a capital V, to 2007 that our political establishment

00:30:03.820 ever so wants, which is one of the reasons why they are so heavily backing him against

00:30:08.240 Nigel Farage. But first, if you would like something nourishing, an oasis of sense in a

00:30:13.980 mad, mad world, pick up a copy of Islander 6. I have my copy right here. It's an excellent edition

00:30:21.280 of the now legendary magazine with plenty of value in here. And also, if you can't afford it

00:30:28.100 because you're paying £14.99 for it because you've decided you're going to buy an extra

00:30:33.000 subscription to some streaming service that produces file that you shouldn't be watching 1.00

00:30:38.040 anyway uh then i think you're an idiot i hope you stub your toe when you wake up from bed next 1.00

00:30:45.140 morning and i hope that you step on a lego on your way to work uh some salesmanship so buy one 1.00

00:30:52.000 right now so no they don't make them that way anyway i don't know if we've actually covered

00:30:59.460 this on the podcast yet, but if we haven't, I would like to introduce you to one of a pair

00:31:05.300 of the two worst articles ever written by anybody in the history of mankind. This is

00:31:12.140 Sophie Jenkinson's Mr. Blobby Patriotism, published in October of last year in Renewal,

00:31:19.560 a journal of social democracy. Now, if you're not familiar with Sophie Jenkinson, don't worry,

00:31:24.860 I wasn't either. So I took a quick look into her. It says at the bottom of this article,

00:31:29.280 So I looked into it. She's the co-director of Round Our Way, who are a climate activism NGO, former head of communications, IPPR and NEF.

00:31:41.140 NEF, of course, being the New Economic Foundation and IPPR being some policy think tank as well.

00:31:48.120 So this is a woman who has been well connected to the policy wonk think tank NGO apparatus and is now co-directing one of these climate activist policy think tanks as well, which contributes to Guardian articles and other places where they talk about what they call the consequences of the climate crisis that we're currently in.

00:32:13.080 So I think we can see her as, particularly with the feminine mindset, being that she's a woman, she's reflective of the kind of attitude that a lot of policy wonks and people within the NGO apparatus hold.

00:32:28.640 This is their mindset. This is what drives them. This is what animates them.

00:32:33.220 These are their preferences, and their preferences are to return to a very, very safe,

00:32:39.840 very, very unthreatening and unserious paradigm, which, frankly, just doesn't exist anymore.

00:32:46.900 Hasn't really existed.

00:32:48.440 Never really existed, but if it did in any form, hasn't existed since about 2007 with the ousting of Tony Blair.

00:32:55.980 and really only existed to present this kind of balmy bonkers Britain veneer over the top of what

00:33:03.540 was already a decaying state and a social and cultural situation which was rapidly deteriorating

00:33:09.720 because when you talk about this Mr Blobby patriotism when she says oh these are the

00:33:14.060 things I love about Britain and we can take this as representative again of the NGO wonks

00:33:18.180 Yorkshire tea adverts with Sarah Lancashire and Sean Bean Greggs Pete Postlethwaite speech in

00:33:25.200 brassed off two p machines hun culture whatever that is relentless sarcasm sam feng fender hung

00:33:32.780 over and breakfast tv big john bob mortimer ainsley harriet and the specific bit of come dine with me

00:33:39.080 and she goes on and on and on before eventually landing on the ultimate expression of it daytime 0.83

00:33:45.600 television mr blobby yes crap consumerist daytime television bread and circuses for the masses to 0.68

00:33:53.360 distract from the fact that when all of this was at its height in a time like 2007 was also 0.96

00:33:57.940 the height of the cover-up of the grooming gangs yes yes that's what that's and the campaign to 0.70

00:34:03.940 make you forget the 77 attacks and the wave of terrorism across europe on the back of the iraq 0.77

00:34:10.520 war and the iraq war itself etc etc they want to go back to everybody taking the soma and being

00:34:17.260 distracted from society and civilization collapsing all around them this is she's dead paradigm yeah 0.98

00:34:23.960 this is return for your lib dem retard neighbor who loves to stick their head about voting green 0.99

00:34:32.280 which is yes which is comical as well because these are the people more than any others who 0.96

00:34:37.500 never shut up about how sacred democracy is how seriously we should take democracy how

00:34:43.880 you know the moment that we waver our democracy right they never say democracy without our

00:34:49.320 democracy yes whereas at the same time they're they would never say our people no they would

00:34:55.240 never say our people these are statists who want the state to numb them more effectively 0.99

00:35:00.620 whereas this like the manifestation of it is the most mind-numbing benign unfunny dull shit 0.99

00:35:09.480 that culture has ever produced, really. 0.98

00:35:13.120 I'm sorry, Mr. Blobby is not some great cultural artifact

00:35:18.920 that we need to return to. 0.99

00:35:20.640 Mr. Blobby was a shit, slightly terrifying mascot 0.99

00:35:25.800 from a television show that produced nothing of any lasting worth. 0.99

00:35:31.320 I could understand if you were talking about, I don't know,

00:35:34.160 the Brit rock and Brit pop invasion of the 1960s.

00:35:37.400 If you're going back to musicians like The Beatles or something like that,

00:35:41.580 I could understand because they were producing something new

00:35:44.960 that was developing on old culture,

00:35:47.020 was kind of a riff on old English folk traditions.

00:35:50.280 It was something that was representative of the British people. 0.99

00:35:55.200 Mr. Blobby was representative of a pre-packaged McDonald's shit culture. 1.00

00:36:00.500 Yeah, I was just going to say, 0.98

00:36:02.640 and with something like The Beatles and a lot of the music scene at the time,

00:36:05.580 also something that the rest of the world paid attention to, something that was of equality,

00:36:11.360 that made people go, wow, have you seen what they're making in Britain these days? This is

00:36:15.360 great. Mr. Blobby does not tick that box. Just listen to this paragraph here.

00:36:21.280 Here's the ultimate summation of this yearning that the establishment professional managerial

00:36:28.300 class wants of what they want to return to, and the kind of attitude that you can assume that

00:36:34.040 they all hold which makes it so that frankly if any of them ever invited me to a dinner party i

00:36:38.040 would spit in their face it's in our love of nicknames to in our friendship group when we

00:36:43.920 have someone called cheese for no other reason than that someone said the next person to walk

00:36:49.620 into this room will be called cheese and someone called pipey because his first name is duane

00:36:55.300 don't know what that even means there's and she links to this there's a whole reddit thread on

00:37:00.640 this very issue and in case you're thinking you made that up harry nobody actually seriously wrote

00:37:05.740 that sentence down i will find it in here wherever it may i think being a redditor i'm trying to

00:37:12.340 trying to go yeah here it is here's the paragraph the offending paragraph the worst piece of prose

00:37:18.420 ever put into the english language right here um yes i too once was 13 years old and thought that

00:37:26.200 lolsorandom was the height of humor.

00:37:29.180 But then I wasn't 13 anymore

00:37:32.400 and realized that this makes me want to kill myself.

00:37:37.580 What she is asking for is Reddit Britain.

00:37:41.640 And what she is asking for is the avoidance of anything serious.

00:37:46.480 Well, I mean, we have zero...

00:37:47.980 You're not allowed to be serious about religion.

00:37:49.920 You're not about to be serious about nationality.

00:37:51.980 You're not allowed to be serious about belonging.

00:37:54.020 you're not allowed to be serious about crime you're not allowed to be serious about anything

00:37:58.260 the whole point of this as best as i can read it is that no no avoid anything serious vote binface

00:38:08.340 yep and she's got it in this article as well from monday count binfest binface rep i went way too

00:38:14.720 northern then represents the silly sausage britain i know and love and again before anybody accuses us

00:38:19.840 we have plenty of fun on this podcast um but it's not this this is not fun this is this is like uh

00:38:27.920 red letter media ages ago uh like uh coined the term non-mody which is when something is so

00:38:34.020 unfunny that you already weren't smiling when you heard it and you're actually smiling somehow even

00:38:40.340 less after you hear it that's what blobby is that's what silly sausage britain is and that's 0.97

00:38:45.880 what Pound Bin faces. It's the height of annoying tweenonmody. The juxtaposition of having Blobby 0.97

00:38:52.880 next to Lord Nelson on that photo as well, to just consider the sort of, like, calibre of person that

00:39:01.160 the country used to produce. Also, this is just the laziest article I've ever read, because it's

00:39:06.760 basically a one-to-one reprint of the renewal article. Oh, really? Yeah, but eight or nine

00:39:13.400 months later it was ridiculous i read you threw in jammy dodgers i've read through it and it's

00:39:17.860 like the big vimto statue behind piccadilly station ainsley harriet's uh like the come

00:39:23.360 dine with me moment it's the same article big vimto got paid for it twice so i can't deny you

00:39:28.740 know like she's got some graft to her i suppose but this subheading capitalism is strong in this

00:39:33.360 one yeah uh i mean i suppose she's an ngo staffer and co-director of some think tanks so she's

00:39:39.660 presumably well used to writing the same thing over and over and over again and getting paid for

00:39:44.060 it so you know it's good work if you can get it mr blobby the liz trust lettuce boaty mcboatface

00:39:49.860 i hated that meme at the time and i hate it even more now this clacked and hopeful is part of a

00:39:55.340 rich tradition and a reminder that it's laughter that defines us not hate and that's this whole

00:39:59.460 this like the idea that if we could all just either or if we could all just i can hate somebody

00:40:04.160 to make fun of them

00:40:04.840 and make it very funny.

00:40:06.080 But if we can all laugh 0.99

00:40:08.240 at Count Binface 0.88

00:40:09.700 and Mr. Blobby

00:40:11.000 together,

00:40:11.800 together,

00:40:12.880 then the Boris wave

00:40:14.060 is just like us

00:40:15.040 and the grooming gangs

00:40:16.000 never happened.

00:40:17.300 You won with the bin.

00:40:18.160 And I never have to be

00:40:19.360 a serious person

00:40:20.760 and address

00:40:21.440 that my entire paradigm

00:40:23.760 and attitude

00:40:24.560 and social class

00:40:25.640 that I make up

00:40:26.380 are responsible

00:40:27.460 for some of the most

00:40:28.380 heinous crimes

00:40:29.680 ever committed

00:40:31.060 in Britain's history. 0.64

00:40:32.580 It really is

00:40:33.320 It's just an escape from responsibility.

00:40:34.820 This is just like a guilty mindset writ large.

00:40:37.520 Yes. 0.82

00:40:38.120 And then you go like, okay, so there's all this to do with Mr. Count Binface.

00:40:42.880 And it's like, who is Count Binface then?

00:40:45.180 Well, they're trying to present him as some kind of anti-establishment, anti-Farage candidate.

00:40:50.880 And he is anti-Farage, but the last thing he is is anti-establishment.

00:40:55.960 Because, I mean, one, he represents the views and the kind of twee annoying whimsy of the establishment.

00:41:02.660 but even more so than that he is of the establishment and from the establishment

00:41:07.220 Binface's real name is John Harvey which is apparently very annoyed at if you ever point 1.00

00:41:12.480 out that actually you're not a time-travelling dustbin you're a you're an idiot called John 0.99

00:41:18.440 Harvey in an annoying costume uh has certainly become a media favorite since Tuesday enjoying 1.00

00:41:23.180 a moment in the limelight to talk of his policies of nationalizing the singer Adele

00:41:27.900 I don't even know what that means

00:41:29.800 what's the punchline

00:41:31.260 it's just lol so random

00:41:33.680 isn't that strange

00:41:35.180 isn't that such a 0.99

00:41:37.140 barmy thing to say

00:41:39.760 nationalising to tell

00:41:41.120 oh my god I'm so funny 0.99

00:41:43.060 kill me 0.93

00:41:45.600 that's getting clipped 1.00

00:41:48.260 all this

00:41:50.020 count bin face talk got me

00:41:51.960 looking into who this guy really is

00:41:53.840 said Rahim Kassam

00:41:56.120 who did a look into this guy's

00:41:57.880 background and did a reveal of him. Jonathan David Harvey earns his living making comedy shows for

00:42:04.520 the BBC, is an Oxbridge liberal elitist, because he's studied the classics at Oxford, who has

00:42:11.300 screeds of anti-Brexit, anti-Trump, and anti-British rants on his Twitter going back over a decade. 1.00

00:42:17.880 So he's just an establishment shit. And his entire life pushing at open doors. 1.00

00:42:23.720 Exactly. He's John Cleese saw the light eventually.

00:42:27.400 Yeah. He debuted as Lord Buckethead in 2017. He had to drop the character due to copyright disputes, ironically enough, and then invented Binface in 2019 as a replacement when he debuted against Boris Johnson during the 2019 elections. Harvey, it carries on, has since gone on to be a writer after his Lord Buckethead debut. He went on to be a writer for shows such as The Thick of It and Have I Got News for You.

00:42:55.020 the worst show on tv so i i think writing for have i got news for you is enough to qualify you 0.97

00:43:01.480 for an eternal gypsy curse i could go further than that but i won't because of youtube guidelines 0.83

00:43:07.700 and here's here's the thing like the whole thing's a lot and the whole thing is a complete farce 0.94

00:43:13.660 and i'm not entirely against the idea of like revealing british politics and the british

00:43:19.160 political system to be a farce because it it is it absolutely is the fact that this can happen in

00:43:25.460 the first place and the establishment is putting its hopes behind a man in a dustbin outfit 0.94

00:43:30.600 against nigel farage shows that the whole like the establishment is in clown face right now yes 0.99

00:43:36.180 it has taken off its serious mask and revealed that it was always a retarded clown this whole 0.96

00:43:40.540 time uh but in the same way that like farage struggles to larp as anti-establishment when 0.96

00:43:46.640 there's so many videos of him like dancing around with Preeti Patel and getting like Boris wave

00:43:52.860 ministers into his anti-Boris wave party. Binface is also just like the establishment. He is backed 0.86

00:44:00.280 by it so he's an attempt as seen through the lens of silly sausage Britain to just reorient

00:44:06.560 political culture to a safer and more comfortable position the establishment prefers it to be in.

00:44:13.280 is not actually challenging British politics in the slightest.

00:44:17.820 And you can tell that because even before this was happening,

00:44:20.160 before, like Count Binface, I think the most he's ever got

00:44:22.780 is like 96 votes against Boris Johnson.

00:44:25.980 I might be wrong in that he might have received more votes

00:44:28.360 in some of the other by-elections that he's stood in.

00:44:30.980 Not going to lie, actually we should beat Boris, to be fair.

00:44:33.540 Well, I mean, maybe it would have saved us all a lot of bother in the end,

00:44:36.200 but still, he stood in Makerfield and got 95 votes.

00:44:41.920 Huzzah!

00:44:42.360 Yeah, I know, right? He really showed it to the establishment there, didn't he?

00:44:48.080 But before he was ever even really relevant as anything but a curio,

00:44:52.160 he has his own YouTube channel where he does a podcast

00:44:56.880 where he had Alistair Campbell on ten months ago.

00:45:01.320 Ten months ago.

00:45:03.580 Alistair Campbell, a very serious and well-recognised political figure

00:45:08.900 who was part of the New Labour Blair government,

00:45:11.060 a former, like, rabid dog of a man who was known for getting into fights

00:45:16.440 and shouting people down in Parliament.

00:45:18.400 He was the inspiration, from what I recall, for Malcolm Tucker in the thick of it.

00:45:23.480 Yes. Decided to go on Count Binface, 0.99

00:45:27.380 and people were sharing around clips from this like it was recent.

00:45:30.580 No, it was ten months ago,

00:45:32.360 and he decided to start to almost open up to Count Binface. 0.97

00:45:37.140 It was like a therapy session for him, listening to parts of it,

00:45:40.280 saying about how he's so glad that he's over who he used to be yeah well i mean alistair campbell 0.98

00:45:46.760 has a terrible case of resting evil face which is different from resting bitch face um and i think 0.93

00:45:53.240 you can tell how just in the name of it but bin face saying to alistair campbell you and rory are 0.97

00:45:58.460 from different political stripes one is red one is blue but you can say you're both purple because

00:46:03.220 you kind of meet in the middle and they have a very wholesome chat over basically saying like

00:46:07.740 you're both uniparty this makes you good in some way i don't really know what point i'm trying to

00:46:14.640 make other than we need to get containment uniparty back in style yes that's what we need

00:46:21.300 and that's what bin face was saying 10 months ago before going against farage but even more

00:46:27.260 so than being friends and pally with the literal new labor blairite establishment and being a

00:46:33.720 writer for the bbc and have i got news for you the worst show can't survive five minutes if you

00:46:39.660 express a right-wing opinion on the bbc well unless you're like a rory stewart type where

00:46:44.840 it's like well like i mean i meant actual right wing yes uh he's also potentially about to be

00:46:51.380 backed by some labor millionaire dale vince uh who is the same guy who's backing uh who's benefiting

00:46:59.080 from Ed Miliband's...

00:47:00.520 Of course he is,

00:47:01.280 because he's a green energy tycoon

00:47:04.860 who's donated more than £6 million to Labour

00:47:07.540 since 2013 via his ecotricity business,

00:47:11.080 has contacted Count Binface through his agent

00:47:15.300 and offered to support him.

00:47:17.900 Speaking to The Telegraph,

00:47:19.000 Mr. Vince said, 1.00

00:47:19.540 I want Binface to win, 1.00

00:47:21.140 and I am prepared to support him morally, 0.82

00:47:23.440 verbally, and financially if that works for him.

00:47:26.440 If Mr. Vince wanted to run

00:47:27.780 an anti-farage campaign in clacton he could only spend 700 pounds but he could donate

00:47:32.520 180 000 pound account bin face to spend on campaigning materials during a by-election so

00:47:38.240 he could basically just try to buy it like funnel it in other ways yes yeah and this is a guy who

00:47:43.900 is just like a millionaire labor donor obviously part of the green labor establishment just 0.93

00:47:50.180 outright coming out and saying like yeah i'm gonna vote i'm gonna fund the clown candidate 0.98

00:47:55.200 because I am the establishment and I am a clown. 0.99

00:47:59.000 The entire establishment is a circus. 0.95

00:48:01.680 Are you enjoying your bread and circuses, peasant?

00:48:05.960 I mean, if people want to get behind it, again, 1.00

00:48:08.560 all you're doing is showing that the establishment is retarded. 1.00

00:48:13.700 Yes. 1.00

00:48:14.040 That's what we're saying. 0.95

00:48:14.840 We're saying it's the like, look at me, look how retarded I am. 1.00

00:48:19.220 Wow, you're so retarded. 1.00

00:48:20.480 Joke's on you. 1.00

00:48:21.500 I was only funding being retarded. 1.00

00:48:24.420 Like, that's what this is. 0.98

00:48:26.220 And profiting from it in Dale Vince's case.

00:48:28.600 And Starmer, in his final PMQs, came out and said that,

00:48:32.180 told Clacton voters to put your vote in the bin.

00:48:35.780 They all seem to think it's very funny, like,

00:48:38.220 oh, we pulled the 180 trick on you.

00:48:40.240 You thought that you were standing against the establishment.

00:48:42.600 No, you're just standing against the establishment in a bin costume.

00:48:47.460 Yeah. 0.50

00:48:48.720 I mean...

00:48:49.160 The proxy.

00:48:50.000 Put the establishment in the bin is a message that I can get behind.

00:48:52.880 i mean i i do agree with that um and also kemi badenock has basically come out supporting pin

00:48:59.140 face as well so the uniparty is working in lockstep there um and a load of other people

00:49:05.620 like rachel reeves have come out supporting him so like he is in fact the establishment candidate 0.98

00:49:13.280 and he is the face of mr blobby patriotism and silly sausage britain so if if most retarded 0.98

00:49:22.660 Meanwhile, if like, I don't know, I don't want to say America can come and like take us over. 0.99

00:49:29.540 If Russia just wants to like nuke us right now, frankly, I'm in the mood to say, okay, go for it.

00:49:38.600 Well, I mean, let's not get to extreme measures.

00:49:41.720 The thing is as well, there will never be any acknowledgement from people like Sophie as well,

00:49:46.700 that they have their entire careers, everything that they've done,

00:49:50.140 everything they've been striving towards paradoxically, are the exact reason why we

00:49:55.680 cannot have the things that they now say that they want. The reason why we can't have a kind

00:50:01.740 of gentle politics, the reason why we can't just have a little bit more humour in our elections

00:50:08.060 is because every single week there is a story of a rape or a murder. And that goes all the way

00:50:15.640 from just people who are very underreported upon, and people like Wayne Broadhurst, all the way to

00:50:22.000 now high-profile people like Anne Widdicombe. And the old system of British democracy and that

00:50:28.400 spirit of respect and reciprocity between all parties involved, it's gone. You destroyed it.

00:50:34.920 You tore it up. You said that anyone who cared about immigration, anyone who cared about the most

00:50:40.960 like mundane but essential things that just keep the lights on and civilization running

00:50:46.940 that those are racist problems those are problematic and why won't you all just go away

00:50:51.800 um it's like well look here's a man in a bin costume you don't care anymore now do you yeah

00:50:57.540 it's like no i don't you've anyway anyway i've said my piece on on this uh that um don't put

00:51:06.660 this on YouTube, but this may sound harsh to some viewers, but I believe that everybody in this 0.92

00:51:10.780 story should die. Um, let's go through the rumble rents. Otschigdor, can't bin face looks too much 0.65

00:51:17.780 like Vader to not imagine the things Vader did to his subordinates. What like choke at, choke them 0.98

00:51:23.860 out. Apparently he's a very intolerable man. Uh, and apparently get intolerant, I should say, 0.97

00:51:29.140 and gets very angry at people very quickly. Uh, so I wouldn't be shocked. Uh, bald Eagle had jokes

00:51:34.340 on you, Harry. I stub my toe on and step on dog toys every morning, so I'm immune to your black 1.00

00:51:40.020 magic curse. Well, you should still buy Islander. Don't be a cheapscape. Scott Sciguy. This attempt

00:51:46.260 to reduce British values as some asinine list is very annoying. It's an unbroken history of

00:51:50.900 thousand years of history. You can't write it down in a list, and you certainly can't write it down

00:51:56.120 as a list of things that you remember from 90s daytime TV. Sigil Stone. Isn't Mr. Blobby famous

00:52:01.520 for beating the shit out of people. 0.99

00:52:03.460 Seems like you've got that right now for governance. 0.98

00:52:05.260 I don't know about that, but I could believe it.

00:52:07.880 Tom Ratt, been an advocate of Heinleinism, Harry,

00:52:11.600 but now I have an even easier solution

00:52:13.360 for whom to disenfranchise.

00:52:15.020 Anybody who has read this article,

00:52:16.920 the writer will be imprisoned.

00:52:19.260 Sorry, Harry.

00:52:20.220 Oh, well, you know, I'll do my duty for my country.

00:52:23.260 Engaged few.

00:52:24.360 Harry has just turned into Gollum.

00:52:25.860 I was worried he was about to launch into a rant

00:52:27.880 about the process.

00:52:28.920 boss neeson don't you just wish for jimmy to come and fix it like the good old days

00:52:34.480 let's let's not go there um what do i look like a member of the nrp uh random name we're living

00:52:41.340 through the modern day reenactment of the fall of rome life got so easy the unserious people

00:52:46.360 have been allowed to rule over us the weak men creating the hard times yeah bald eagle is such

00:52:52.300 an unserious version

00:52:53.640 of the fall of Rome.

00:52:55.320 Yeah.

00:52:56.860 What's the Marx quote?

00:52:58.000 First is tragedy,

00:52:59.100 then there's farce.

00:53:00.040 Yes, yes.

00:53:01.240 On a serious note,

00:53:02.020 is Restore working on the ground

00:53:03.120 to help Farage win the race

00:53:04.720 despite the differences

00:53:05.640 between the two groups?

00:53:07.460 I don't know.

00:53:08.580 I don't know.

00:53:09.280 I can't imagine

00:53:10.020 that there'll be any part

00:53:10.720 of Restore policy

00:53:11.580 that would involve

00:53:12.280 helping Farage.

00:53:14.760 And I can't really say

00:53:15.880 because I'm not in the party.

00:53:18.000 Random name,

00:53:18.820 for us to be able

00:53:19.320 to vote on ourselves

00:53:20.120 out of this,

00:53:21.060 we need a critical mass

00:53:22.020 of serious people, and I'm not sure that exists. The system is designed to keep the natives docile 1.00

00:53:26.540 while we get replaced. There are plenty of serious people. It's organizing them properly, 1.00

00:53:31.240 which is the most difficult part, and being able to organize them in a way that ultimately they're

00:53:35.440 not being used by other financial interests for their own motives. That's the really difficult

00:53:40.880 part. And there are also lots of people with financial backing who are serious and care about

00:53:46.700 our causes. The problem is that when they finally get in touch with people who they think are

00:53:51.340 wanting, who are going to be good activists for them, oftentimes these people end up being scammers

00:53:56.600 as well. So they get, one side gets burnt by being used and the other side gets burnt by being scammed

00:54:02.360 and nothing gets done. That's the difficult part is finding, connecting the right people so that

00:54:08.000 something can get done. Baystate, look, I hate all this camp nonsense and making a joke out of

00:54:12.620 politics, but if my political calculations are correct, if Nigel does get humiliated,

00:54:16.560 it's pretty much a straight path uh to low victory don't be so certain don't be so certain

00:54:23.280 of that it could be a windfall for restore or it could be a return of the conservatives

00:54:29.960 which is the big threat always all right well then ladies and gentlemen i'm now going to do

00:54:39.920 something that i never expected to do as a presenter on this podcast and that is talk about

00:54:44.780 the football uh because i'm not really a football fan i never have been um to be honest with you one

00:54:51.700 of the earliest memories i have of it all was that my dad who's been a lifelong like manchester

00:54:56.720 city fan he took me to the etihad and it was supposed to be this like great pilgrimage and

00:55:01.380 i was supposed to go there to the arena hear the buzz of the crowds watch the athleticism of the

00:55:06.680 players and just becoming raptured by it and i was supposed to you know become a convert and become

00:55:12.320 you know, a tribal football devotee. That didn't happen. I remember distinctly that actually what

00:55:19.640 that day turned out to be was my first ever introduction to a cup of Bovril, that lasting

00:55:26.040 far longer, which is the drink of Patriots. And I also remember it being a particularly beautiful

00:55:31.800 sky that day as well. And so whilst all the players were on the pitch, I was looking up.

00:55:37.000 I hate to break it, but your dad's a Man City guy.

00:55:40.480 My dad's more of a Man U guy.

00:55:42.640 So I hate to break it that our fathers are mortal enemies.

00:55:46.000 We'll have to get them together sometime.

00:55:48.040 For a fight.

00:55:50.600 Dads and lads.

00:55:52.400 Anyway, so all of this is to say that I am an outsider looking in with all of this.

00:55:58.500 My experience of the World Cup thus far has been literally just being in my room at home,

00:56:04.960 not watching the football, obviously.

00:56:07.000 But knowing exactly when a goal has been scored,

00:56:11.540 because I can hear it from the pub much further down the street.

00:56:16.820 I had that, not during the semifinals, the quarterfinals.

00:56:21.400 I had the living room door open, get some fresh airing,

00:56:24.600 because it was so stuffy that day.

00:56:26.380 And from all of the houses around me,

00:56:29.220 I could tell when England had scored, because I just heard...

00:56:32.000 So all of this to say,

00:56:36.360 Football, I'm afraid, ladies and gentlemen, not a moral judgment.

00:56:39.900 It's just not for me.

00:56:40.980 But what can be for you is to get Islander magazine.

00:56:44.660 Now, this is for the great price of, I mean, it must be what?

00:56:48.140 The same price as a football.

00:56:49.660 I don't know what price do footy tickets go for.

00:56:52.820 Probably similar to a monthly Netflix subscription these days

00:56:57.040 because they keep ramping the price up.

00:56:58.740 So cancel Netflix and get this instead.

00:57:00.400 Or for the price of two pints a month,

00:57:03.440 You can get yourself an Islander magazine.

00:57:06.560 And in this, we've got wonderful articles.

00:57:08.540 I've written one all about Samwise Gamgee on this occasion.

00:57:11.580 This is six for six now, talking all about Lord of the Rings characters, which has been tremendous fun.

00:57:17.280 Carl's actually wrote a Tolkien-centric article on this occasion too, talking all about the scouring of the Shire.

00:57:23.400 We've got fantastic articles from people like Will Tanner.

00:57:26.940 Great interview with the American economist Michael Hudson.

00:57:29.880 And all of these essays are centering around the idea of what is to be done at this late hour.

00:57:37.580 So if that sounds appealing to you, head over to the website and do get your hands on a copy of the sixth issue of Islander.

00:57:44.780 So though, as I say, I am not a football fan, I have been utterly fascinated as the weeks have rolled on around me.

00:57:53.640 Not only because there is something about the nation-to-nation rivalries, because it is inherently the idea of a World Cup is a very nationalistic thing.

00:58:04.300 You're having a grand old tournament to decide which nation is superior, which one is the best, and leaves all of its enemies defeated, quaking in tears after you've totally torn them up on the pitch.

00:58:18.020 So there is something about that, and that creates a great amount of comedy, and I enjoy that.

00:58:23.640 But there are some who take it more seriously than others.

00:58:27.320 And this is one of the examples that we have, particularly from the Argentinians, time and time again.

00:58:33.560 But this is really here.

00:58:34.680 So we have here the vice president of Argentina and president of the Senate, Victoria Valeruel, I think. 0.99

00:58:44.360 Tomorrow we play against the usurping pirates.

00:58:48.360 This isn't just another match.

00:58:50.380 I'm not going to be politically correct or cold-hearted. 0.95

00:58:52.980 against the English, it's always something more. It's the Mulvinas, it's Diego, it's Leo's last 0.89

00:58:59.620 one, and it's putting the brakes on the invaders. Go Argentina, because until our last breath, 0.98

00:59:05.800 we're going to claim what's ours. And then there's a very helpful bit of added context in there, 0.78

00:59:10.720 just talking about the fact that the people of the Falkland Islands in a referendum voted

00:59:16.220 basically unanimously to stay a part of British sovereign territory. And we had this little

00:59:22.800 conversation with the argies back in the 80s and they should have taken the hint then really they

00:59:28.960 really really are not letting it go they're not and it's annoying there's a lot of offshore oil

00:59:34.800 and gas there which is a big deal for a country i hear lots of people lord as being one of the 0.99

00:59:40.080 whitest in the world uh they sure do whine like third worlders that's a very good point very good

00:59:47.380 point and anyway calling us usurping pirates well pirates are cool actually and our privateers like 1.00

00:59:54.060 francis drake and uh sir henry morgan are some classic um heroes of english folklore and let's

01:00:00.760 face it even our um pirates you know who were totally against the law and went around slaughtering

01:00:06.340 like blackbeard i mean they still had aura you know our pirates were great um so there is just

01:00:13.480 that small little point one of the best films of the 21st century one of the best film series

01:00:19.120 the pirates of the caribbean yeah which are a film trilogy don't you know know the films

01:00:23.800 afterwards yes is about a bunch of englishmen being scoundrels in the caribbean and they're

01:00:28.180 awesome yeah and all the world loved it and they became very successful films and you've also got

01:00:34.340 black flag re-sync now as well so the world actually loves british pirates for the first

01:00:38.640 thing um but the argies this does seem to be look on the one hand maybe this is just me i hear the

01:00:44.720 argies going off like this and i just think i mean it's a bit annoying but you know like nothing more

01:00:50.560 than that i can handle it but they they really really hate us uh you can see them just like

01:00:59.360 constant footage of them burning english flags um in their own street that that is third world

01:01:07.040 Yes.

01:01:07.640 Yes, absolutely.

01:01:09.460 They feel pretty strongly about it.

01:01:12.920 And obviously, as I say, I didn't watch the match,

01:01:15.560 but our good producer Samson did.

01:01:19.060 And he was just talking about the fact that

01:01:21.700 all you could hear as both national anthem was played

01:01:24.600 was just the absolute cacophony of booing from both sides,

01:01:29.420 just really laying into one another.

01:01:31.900 And the peculiar thing about all of this as well

01:01:35.000 is the fact that there are other layers to this as well,

01:01:39.040 because obviously as different teams go through the World Cup,

01:01:44.320 they kind of build these narratives around themselves.

01:01:47.320 Norway were perfect at this.

01:01:48.820 Norway, the idea of them being on the longboats and everything,

01:01:52.360 all dressed like Vikings, just hearkening back to that culture.

01:01:56.060 And people loved it, right?

01:01:57.320 People thought it was really playful.

01:01:58.800 They thought it was really tasteful.

01:02:00.460 And they thought it put Norway, the country of Norway,

01:02:04.180 because that's what they are. Whenever these footballers go into the stadium, they're not just

01:02:09.120 representing how well the team can play football, they're also representing something about the

01:02:15.780 wider nation that they come from as well, as I just said in the example of Norway.

01:02:21.260 People actually like when you play into your cultural history.

01:02:24.300 Exactly. And so when the Argentinians go on the pitch and behave like a bunch of, to put it 1.00

01:02:31.100 politely cheating bastards it basically creates this feeling that we're not even talking about 0.99

01:02:37.400 Maradona's goal of hostility right we're not even talking about the hand of God but I'll play this 0.98

01:02:43.660 just headlocking them throwing them around it was more like a wrestling match

01:02:55.820 than anything else now I'm not saying that our guys have always played a clean game either

01:03:01.060 And one of the things that I just is the amount of diving, just anyone, just always any opportunity to take a dive.

01:03:07.960 And that's ubiquitous across football. That's just is what it is.

01:03:11.640 But there's also the fact that across numerous games throughout this tournament, the Argentinians have constantly seemed to have a bit of a helping hand from referees, from checkings of VAR, from all sorts of things.

01:03:27.900 There was even one that was talking about the fact that Gianni Infantino, the CEO of FIFA, looked pleased when the Argentinians scored yesterday and was looking miserable whilst it was still 1-0 to England.

01:03:44.560 And so there are all of these things that have just given people a really bad impression of the Argentinian team.

01:03:52.000 and this comes to the the ever-present question actually it's quite a quite a big one in a film

01:03:57.600 that i know you're a fan of harry which is cars uh which is my daughter is yeah for some reason

01:04:04.280 little tidbit little factoid about me my daughter loves the cars movies only one and two right she

01:04:10.040 kind of hates the third one she doesn't want to watch it and i i don't know why that's the one 0.94

01:04:14.400 that's centered on like the girl car so maybe she maybe she's like anti-feminist she's just beast

01:04:20.160 foreign based we live based and we'll forever be based i've had to watch cars one and two

01:04:26.740 but that whole idea like in the finale of that film it's about the actual honor of the

01:04:34.760 sportsmanship itself every bit as much as it is whether or not you actually technically win the

01:04:40.500 thing and when the whole world is seeing the argentinians being given this this helping hand 0.89

01:04:46.480 when they see that there's a bit of tomfoolery going here,

01:04:50.000 it doesn't exactly endear people to them.

01:04:52.260 And then it certainly doesn't endear anyone in Britain to them

01:04:56.120 when, in celebration, the Argentinian team come out

01:05:00.120 and basically claim that the Falkland Islands are theirs.

01:05:03.060 Now, as a point of reference, our Prime Minister,

01:05:08.000 who's on his way out, can, with one last great patriotic parting shot,

01:05:13.320 as he always said, the World Cup may not be ours,

01:05:15.760 but the falkland islands are so true sakir so true like i said starmer like i said yesterday

01:05:22.120 he's been really milking the football all that it's worth he's been sneaking in these like new

01:05:28.960 reforms to immigration under the door where nobody's paying attention so that people can't

01:05:33.280 be angry at him for that but the football has been front and center look at him in his shirt

01:05:37.480 fighting for the britain's right to have the pubs open at 2 a.m the downing street pr taught him how

01:05:43.920 to smile still looks like a robot yeah uh it'll never change anyway so but all of this is to say

01:05:54.500 is uh andrew griffith mp points out here well fifa fined our players for wearing poppies back

01:06:01.180 in 2016 and the span they also banned spanish players in 2024 which i think i don't know that

01:06:07.960 might have been linked to something to do with gibraltar i don't know i can't remember i'm not

01:06:12.420 a football scholar as you may have noticed um but really it comes down to the point that it's like

01:06:18.300 well okay if there's been this sort of like favoritism to the Argentinians for a lot of the

01:06:24.080 tournament by the higher ups then what is going to happen now are they actually going to be fine

01:06:30.000 for it what will the repercussions be we will see um there was also quite a comical little episode

01:06:36.260 as well, where Chelsea ended up basically giving a bit of a hype for the Argentinian man. I assume

01:06:42.960 he plays for Chelsea, otherwise they wouldn't have done it, but that was a bit cringe. Everyone

01:06:47.740 disliked that. And then there's also, it's like, okay, you might have kicked the ball in the net

01:06:53.620 at one time more than we did, but just don't forget about whose ships are around the Fulcrums, 0.98

01:07:00.400 all right? And you can see here that it does have added context at the bottom, but Argentina has

01:07:05.800 formally protest to the united kingdom after accusing the royal navy patrol vessel hms medway

01:07:11.540 of making an unauthorized transit through argentine territory territorial waters uh shortly after the

01:07:18.880 semi-final match now it actually goes on to point that this was this happened before the match so um

01:07:25.280 yeah there we are just just just remember where those ships are but then we get into all the

01:07:30.760 dimensions of it so i've talked about argentina and then the to me there was just the absolute

01:07:36.220 fascination with how this entire world's caught i mean don't get wrong i accept it this is a very

01:07:41.660 terminally online thing i i get all that but for sure yes yes so yes as harry has pointed out this

01:07:54.600 is Ben Gavir who is a minister of national security in Israel a walking stereotype as well

01:08:03.240 like the a walking like stereotype of the worst kind he's the most openly bloodthirsty amongst

01:08:11.100 them and he's supporting he's like do I really have to explain to you why I pray for Argentina

01:08:16.400 that with all my heart

01:08:19.200 as if he had one

01:08:23.060 but this has been amazing

01:08:25.040 because now all of a sudden

01:08:26.820 what you find is that

01:08:28.280 this is not a World Cup

01:08:29.840 between England and Argentina

01:08:32.700 or Spain and Argentina

01:08:34.240 no no no

01:08:34.780 what this entire tournament is

01:08:36.520 is a proxy war

01:08:38.140 between the Palestinians and the Israelis

01:08:41.840 this is a new front 0.83

01:08:43.740 that has been opened

01:08:44.940 that has opened out on the American continent.

01:08:48.720 And yeah, exactly.

01:08:49.580 As you say, so Ben Gavir is saying,

01:08:50.940 do I really need to explain why I pray with all my heart

01:08:53.700 for the Argentina national team to win tonight

01:08:56.400 and make it to a final?

01:08:58.160 It's like, well, no, no, you don't need to explain, Ben.

01:09:02.940 We understand.

01:09:04.140 Same reason they sold them.

01:09:05.800 Well, we'll get to that.

01:09:06.840 And you can see as well, crowds just celebrating,

01:09:10.420 going mad for the fact that Argentina won over in Tel Aviv.

01:09:14.940 and the fact that Argentina are going to be going on to the final.

01:09:18.700 To be fair, there's a big Jewish community in Argentina,

01:09:23.200 and they move between Israel and Argentina rather seamlessly.

01:09:28.300 Sure.

01:09:28.900 And so, but there are not that many.

01:09:32.180 Like, that's a huge crowd.

01:09:34.800 We let them settle in the mandate in the first place.

01:09:37.880 Yeah, I know, I know.

01:09:39.340 That's gratitude.

01:09:39.960 You were expecting gratitude.

01:09:41.020 Yeah, that's gratitude for you.

01:09:42.640 and so that does just bring up the fact it's like well why are they it's like well let's just

01:09:48.160 remember that Israel did give arms to the Argentina during the Falklands war that that was

01:09:53.840 just something that happened and so it's not like these two nations don't have a shared history of

01:09:59.340 cooperation with one another just just as a reminder this was during the government of

01:10:04.220 Margaret Thatcher yeah who at that point was probably one of the if not the most pro-Israel

01:10:11.360 prime ministers that we'd ever had since it was established in 1948. Yes, yes. And it also,

01:10:17.380 this article as well, points out the fact that these were being given to an Argentine hunter

01:10:22.240 that was also disappearing about 30,000 of its own people, and disproportionately 10% of those

01:10:29.420 were Jewish. And yet Israel were funding Argentina. And we also, we just come to the fact,

01:10:36.160 So it says, yet Argentina was able to acquire over 20 Nasser fighter jets from Israel in 1982, the year of the Falklands War, with more Israeli weapons and supplies secretly transferred through Peru.

01:10:48.600 And it also used Israeli-supplied Skyhawk jets to sink four British warships, including the Sir Galahad, which resulted in the death of 48 of our British soldiers, who had gone all that way across the Atlantic just to defend British sovereign territory.

01:11:07.700 And, you know, our servicemen paid the price of their lives for to defend.

01:11:14.100 And so we also get to the fact, but it's not just Israel as well.

01:11:17.680 So you've got people like Gert Wilders, who is the face of the populist right of the Netherlands, being like, yeah, I hope Argentina win this. It's like, right. So you as a populist, Gert, who have made your entire career out of saying, man, don't we have problems with immigration in the Netherlands? Isn't this terrible?

01:11:37.700 Look at the cultural vandalism here. Look at the loss of Dutch identity and just seeing the fact that this is a shared lived experience now for the Dutch, for the French, for the Spanish, for the Germans, for the British, all of your compatriots across Europe.

01:11:53.360 You don't side with the Brits, who are a part of a genuine continental struggle for their civilization to simply survive this century.

01:12:03.080 No, because of your support for that particular side in the Middle East, you find yourself siding with the Argentinians against us,

01:12:11.380 even though you've no other real sense of common ties with them other than those geopolitical interests that you personally hold.

01:12:18.200 It turns out that this whole thing has not even just turned into a proxy war new front for Israel-Palestine.

01:12:23.520 This has also just reignited old imperial-like rivalries between all of the continental powers in Europe.

01:12:31.560 Yeah.

01:12:32.080 Why does this happen every time?

01:12:34.060 Ready for another seven years' war, Harry?

01:12:36.840 I mean, I could understand why Argentina, like, obviously there was also the Falklands,

01:12:40.320 but also, like, their descended, like, the European descended ones are descended from people

01:12:45.000 that we got into a lot of wars with back in the day.

01:12:47.240 and even the most recent European emigres over there are descended from Germans who would not

01:12:53.920 have reason to like us after the 1940s, shall we say. But the fact that everybody else just 0.80

01:12:59.780 piles on as well, for goodness sakes. And this is not me just having like a partisan shot at the

01:13:06.040 Israelis and the Zionists. It's also the fact that you see this tweet from Nihal here, who I checked 0.71

01:13:11.060 her profile, actually lives in the United Kingdom. And so she says, you know Argentina effed up when

01:13:16.840 almost every single person at the Palestinian cafe is wearing an England shirt and it's like 0.93

01:13:23.620 just for a point of reference right I have seen the most third world countries on the planet 1.00

01:13:29.360 turning around and going yeah go on England come on England and now that we're out of a tournament 0.98

01:13:36.900 just being like yeah go on Spain go on Spain just willing Argentina to lose this whole thing has 0.51

01:13:43.900 turned into a global anti-zionist versus zionist proxy war it's so funny

01:13:49.760 but it's also like eurovision all over again

01:13:54.280 you are in the eternal eurovision

01:13:57.380 but it's the fact that these people here on in any other scenario on any other day

01:14:05.000 these are the people who would be going out protesting through the streets of london

01:14:09.720 just like you know the reason why we have to have our statues protected and guarded and like you

01:14:15.980 know the um the cenotaph and the churchill statue and the people who were basically saying in any

01:14:21.040 other scenario that the falklands is western colonizer behavior and actually you know we

01:14:26.360 should be handing it back no they're coming to our side i'm sorry look at this even she's like

01:14:31.780 oh i just don't like them because the argentinians are unlikable can't hate watch a team or find a

01:14:36.580 seem likeable without someone being like, have you heard of the Balfour Declaration? 0.80

01:14:40.980 So even this people are going like, you know Israel's only there because of England, right?

01:14:51.260 I'm sorry. Palestinian policy is still to demand reparations from the British, by the way, 0.53

01:14:55.800 just sort of a bit of a side note. And so this entire thing is just so funny. But at the same

01:15:01.880 time, again, if we're talking about proxies, it doesn't stop the Welsh and the Scots from

01:15:08.020 celebrating the fact that England is out, just living vicariously through another team because

01:15:14.780 they're never able to get that far in the World Cup themselves to actually have the match against

01:15:20.080 England time and time again. And so it's just you see the Welsh and the Scots celebrating in their

01:15:25.800 pubs the fact that England is out. And I will say I've always despised this attitude. I know it's

01:15:30.600 not all the welsh i know it's not all the scots but there is a large minority of them who practice

01:15:36.020 this sort of behavior and even i as a as someone who doesn't really watch it like fundamentally i

01:15:43.300 am for england winning it in the same way that i am for the scottish doing well i am for the welsh

01:15:49.160 doing well in the tournament i never get any sense of like schadenfreude when the welsh are knocked

01:15:54.000 out all the scots are knocked out them as younger brothers to protect they view you as an 0.90

01:15:58.940 authoritarian father yes it's it's a very different uh dynamic i'm sorry the scots really need to get

01:16:04.940 over that because i think though i think if the scots i know they they were not even junior

01:16:10.620 partners they were very active and enthusiastic partners in this whole like empire business

01:16:16.160 radio for today about how all of the industry of glasgow was based around supplying the british

01:16:22.380 empire and how all of it was basically down to the imperial successes of this country and we're

01:16:29.400 grateful for your contributions scotland um and then of course we come on to the the ever predictable

01:16:35.560 the one that comes up annually whatever tournament we go into year on year which is the diversity

01:16:41.400 angle to the entire thing as well uh you can see uh daniel kibedi here saying if england beat

01:16:47.660 argentina tomorrow we didn't sorry uh and reach the world cup final remember it will be a

01:16:52.980 multiracial england that has won england in all its diversity not the narrow exclusionary vision

01:17:00.380 of england that farage and lowe and robinson and all those are trying to create it's like okay

01:17:04.760 he sees you harry he sees you finally getting my recognition yeah um but it's like okay we lost so

01:17:15.040 does that mean that diversity is a failure and we can pack it in scrap it up and go home given

01:17:19.920 that the only time we ever did actually win the world cup was with an homogenous team uh which 0.73

01:17:25.660 again they always just refuse to address the the idea that it only works one way of course it does

01:17:31.740 and it doesn't matter how many times but have you thought about the food not once also this team is

01:17:38.200 like this team is nowhere near as diverse as some of the other european teams french to be fair

01:17:44.620 I think they swap them out, different matches.

01:17:48.300 I know that they swap them out,

01:17:50.540 but if you wanted to show like a pure diverse team, 0.99

01:17:53.180 this is one of the worst photos they could have chosen. 0.90

01:17:56.100 Although, of course, it would have been nicer

01:17:57.560 to see a lot more just like Englishman.

01:17:59.740 Oh man, five out of the ten.

01:18:01.600 Five is not great, but still,

01:18:04.180 it's nowhere near as bad a ratio as some.

01:18:07.020 And so if we're losing the tournament time and time again,

01:18:10.980 and it's that really insufferable practice

01:18:13.960 where you can lose it, therefore disproving your theory

01:18:17.640 time and time again. 0.99

01:18:18.760 And you only have to win the damn thing once 0.99

01:18:21.200 to act as if you were always winners 0.98

01:18:23.400 and this was always a success.

01:18:25.540 And there was just this absolute banger from the world.

01:18:28.740 Well, now that we're out of the World Cup, 0.99

01:18:32.280 is there really any need for them to stay?

01:18:35.140 Which actually just had me creasing.

01:18:39.320 But again, it's that thing.

01:18:40.800 It's like, oh, the diversity are helping us

01:18:43.280 to do really really well and it's like okay but like there are other things happening right outside 0.99

01:18:50.420 of the world cup right now and we would talk about them quite extensively here because they don't get

01:18:56.300 spoken about on sky news and the bbc and in the halls of power and you know you can see this one

01:19:02.160 here it says um from visigrad attacks against police fireworks launched at crowds fire set

01:19:07.760 and vandalism in Lyon after France lost 2-0 to Spain last night. Dozens arrested in Lyon and more

01:19:14.240 than 150 arrested in Paris. And there are also other ones as well that were really funny. Well,

01:19:21.140 not funny because it's actually horrible what you see happening on the streets of Paris and on the

01:19:28.780 streets of London as well, which is just the fact that every time there is one of these tournaments 0.99

01:19:33.460 and one of the third world countries

01:19:35.820 that we've taken in a large populace from

01:19:39.140 is defeated in the tournament,

01:19:41.320 it always results in people

01:19:43.220 not being able to go out

01:19:44.700 to walk in their own capital city,

01:19:47.180 not being able to feel safe in the streets,

01:19:49.480 having to constantly be guarded.

01:19:51.240 Whilst people, like in this case,

01:19:53.960 as was the case with France, 0.85

01:19:55.900 with the Moroccans, 1.00

01:19:57.640 just tearing up the streets of Paris. 1.00

01:19:59.620 It's like, well, isn't it interesting that when-

01:20:01.580 And rioting in Britain.

01:20:02.220 Yeah, but isn't it interesting that when they lost, they didn't tear up the streets of Marrakesh, right?

01:20:08.500 They didn't actually tear up the place where they feel they are homely and where they're from.

01:20:12.580 But when they're camping in our country and don't feel responsible for it, you're able to tear it up because it doesn't matter.

01:20:20.180 The taxpayer will just sort that out and we all feel very entitled to be here.

01:20:24.900 And so then we had this article here by...

01:20:28.900 European Conservative.

01:20:30.200 Yeah, by the European Conservative, sorry, by Hélène de Luzon, who went on to say further down the article that the French national team's coaches were happy to contribute to this political project, talking about the diversification of the actual teams.

01:20:47.000 and she goes on to say that contribute to this project even though it was by no means a sure

01:20:53.020 thing from a sporting standpoint having a majority of players of African descent with their own

01:20:58.440 distinct playing styles and physical characteristics is no guarantee of victory Italy in 2006 and

01:21:05.260 Argentina in 2022 both won with teams that were predominantly if not exclusively white

01:21:11.420 And she also goes on to say that on the French side, the victories have come one after another

01:21:17.220 at the national level as well as at the local club level, as demonstrated once again by

01:21:22.380 the recent victory of Paris Saint-Germain, a team built on the same model that won the

01:21:27.140 most recent Champions League.

01:21:28.940 The facts were there, stubbornly, tournament after tournament, to support the theory, fueling

01:21:35.260 the dreams of thousands of young immigrants in the suburbs from Algeria, Ivory Coast or

01:21:40.000 Cameroon, who imagined a sporting destiny with France filmed with astronomical salaries and

01:21:46.440 televised glory without ever needing to love France. And this is what it ultimately allows

01:21:52.960 you to do. It manages to twofold put forward the diversity into the team and say, isn't it

01:21:59.160 wonderful that they're proud to represent this country, even though there are many other reasons

01:22:03.960 why one might wish to become a footballer other than represent. I mean, you just see the way that

01:22:09.220 It's just the Premier League works now.

01:22:11.840 It's just constantly this mercenary transactional thing

01:22:14.320 of people being bought from club to club.

01:22:16.500 There are those, obviously, who have loyalty to one particular club.

01:22:19.840 But that idea of it having used to have been that people from Manchester

01:22:24.660 would play for Manchester, those who came from Arsenal

01:22:28.820 would play for Arsenal, or those who came from Tottenham,

01:22:32.020 wherever it might have been, well, we don't have that anymore.

01:22:34.660 It's entirely just people changing team to team within the nation, people changing team to team in the continent.

01:22:41.900 And so it's not exactly a sporting sport anymore that breeds a great deal of loyalty within people, especially given how much money there is to be made in it.

01:22:52.380 Even on the diversity, you never see people from the Indian subcontinent or from East Asia being part of the football teams, even when they are part of that population.

01:23:01.660 now uh it is always africans yes so like that diversity is a bit one-sided oh absolutely uh

01:23:10.260 seems that the rules of genetics might have something to say about things well who knows

01:23:14.960 um but running a little short on time so i'll just close it up ladies and gentlemen which is

01:23:19.500 to say the term obviously this also means that when france play morocco we still get riots in

01:23:24.320 london because we have a moroccan population of course we do we're never protected from it these 1.00

01:23:29.080 are all and this comes from things as you know like cricket matches in Leicester between the 1.00

01:23:33.320 Indians and the Pakistanis right and so whenever they talk about oh look how good and diverse a

01:23:38.980 team is it's like yeah but look at what the rest of the diversity is doing outside of this one

01:23:44.440 particular tournament uh anyway if there is one silver lining in all of it ladies and gentlemen

01:23:49.480 at least we get another crack at the French there you go all right a lot of rumble rants from that

01:23:56.540 one as well we've had some very generous um chatters yeah thanks very much friends um there

01:24:02.040 are no video comments today are the samson okay well as well read through yeah sure so uh last

01:24:09.880 raven and go from there sure uh last raven says uh isn't it funny how bb's entire shtick is about

01:24:15.780 dragging us into iran was to keep iran from getting a nuke yet the suicidal empathy of the 0.79

01:24:22.200 west will make them nuclear armed islamic powers well i mean you'll you'll know more about this 0.87

01:24:28.140 than i will fear us um i mean we already have nuclear armed pakistan and we give them money 0.90

01:24:32.880 every year uh scott c guy says as a scott my best memory of this world cup is scotland drinking 0.69

01:24:38.400 boston dry hey it's one of our skills i mean more power to you man uh bald eagle 1787 says fifa is

01:24:46.140 a great representation of western governments they take tons of bribes from nations wanting

01:24:50.700 to host and launder billions through construction projects bread and circuses for the masses yeah

01:24:56.460 absolutely um that's a random name says uh my nation may be getting pillaged in the real time

01:25:03.280 but all that matters is getting uh s-faced with um yeah with beer whilst watching our team um

01:25:13.060 yeah it's playing football yes yes um the way that that's phrased i feel like it should have

01:25:20.140 I almost feel like it should have, like, a Brit Giga Chad face attached to it.

01:25:25.700 I know that's not the intention.

01:25:27.800 Ryan Hinnigan says,

01:25:29.620 Why do IGs hate the British so fervently?

01:25:32.360 Japan love America and our culture,

01:25:34.500 and we entered the Empire of the Rising Sun by dropping it on them twice. 1.00

01:25:38.420 They can't get over an island.

01:25:40.840 They never... 1.00

01:25:41.620 Maybe they occupy Japan.

01:25:43.200 Maybe we, yeah, occupy Argentina. 0.75

01:25:45.260 That's how they get in trouble with us.

01:25:47.280 Good thought. Thank you.

01:25:49.440 Yeah, having a conversation about that.

01:25:52.160 And Bald Eagle says, FIFA determines how far certain countries go

01:25:56.520 based on how far they want them to go for business purposes.

01:26:00.180 FIFA wanted Argentina or England to have minorities beat the oppressive whites.

01:26:06.580 I mean, there's a lot of things.

01:26:08.360 I've seen so many narratives going around about it.

01:26:12.700 And there are a lot of comments.

01:26:14.120 Sorry, I don't have time to read them all, friends.

01:26:15.800 uh bald eagle also says should also be noted that fifa allows players to choose what country they

01:26:21.720 represent in the tournament players from large countries can play for smaller countries even if

01:26:26.760 they aren't citizens uh most of the moroccan team has european passports but they chose to play for

01:26:34.980 morocco so i don't know yeah yeah you should have citizenship but also scott siga said i'm a scott

01:26:42.800 and I'm aware enough to know

01:26:45.280 that the Darien scheme went horribly wrong

01:26:46.920 and they went begging to England.

01:26:48.100 The Scottish elite betrayed Scotland,

01:26:49.540 not England changed my mind. 1.00

01:26:51.220 It's true. 0.92

01:26:51.680 Yes, true.

01:26:52.480 Yeah, you know your history, sir.

01:26:55.300 All right, do you want to go through

01:26:56.460 comments from your segment, Harry?

01:26:59.240 Oh, sorry, of course it was.

01:27:00.880 Yeah, sure.

01:27:03.060 Kevin says,

01:27:04.020 make all work visas one-year visas. 0.79

01:27:05.820 If you come on a work visa 0.87

01:27:06.780 and want to bring your wife and kids, 0.98

01:27:08.020 you have to show you earn enough

01:27:09.580 to house and support,

01:27:11.460 and I would say educate them 0.97

01:27:12.660 without government assistance, private health insurance, and repatriation to your home country

01:27:18.660 in the event of death. Once you have your visa, if you need a work contract with a visa employee,

01:27:24.920 you must show that it's registered. You have to report the home office immigration department

01:27:29.140 every 90 days to confirm that you're still employed and your address. No, you make the

01:27:33.740 employers give notice of any change in your employment status. You don't require that

01:27:38.200 because then people disappear uh omar says there's a genre of tweet that is just the government

01:27:43.400 announcing they're banning something and the quote tweets are are just they were allowed to do what

01:27:48.220 yes yes that's true when we take power we need to ban entire visa trees whatever was guaranteed

01:27:54.940 whoever was guarantor to the visa is considered uh invalid and any connecting visa denied yeah i

01:28:00.500 mean well whatever guarantees you have then they shouldn't be more binding than the manifesto

01:28:06.120 guarantees that you pledge to the British people that they voted for.

01:28:09.660 I remember when Shabana Mahmood removed a privilege for migrants to get free taxi rides

01:28:15.440 to hospitals, and everybody all at once went, they got free taxi rides to hospitals, what?

01:28:22.980 So it is bizarre, there's probably so much more like that that we don't even know about.

01:28:27.500 I read a couple of mine, Dirty Belter, unserious politics works well and there's nothing you

01:28:31.320 need to be serious about, the culture that is often remembered has an edge, it takes

01:28:35.000 a position on something i can talk about the propositions put forward in the prisoner in

01:28:38.780 doctor who and in top gear but what does mr blobby say even old kid shows like thomas the tank engine

01:28:44.400 fireman sam and postman say something those shows were promises about the kind of country that you'd

01:28:49.240 inherit what does mr blobby say or promise please ignore the anger you feel over murdered children

01:28:54.680 can't we all get along yeah yeah great point michael trey belbus does britain only have traitor

01:29:00.180 parties. Not that the US has any place to talk, but at least we only have two. Britain's got Greens,

01:29:05.900 Labour, Lib Dem, Tories, even Reform His, hoping Restore pulls off an electoral hat-trick and

01:29:10.800 sweeps the table at the next general election. And let's go through some of yours. Sure. Thane

01:29:16.220 Scotty of Swindon says, Keir Starmer going to the World Cup with his Prime Minister credentials and

01:29:21.320 privileges is like giving your dog a perfect day of cooked steaks and real chocolate before taking

01:29:28.560 him to the vet for the final time oh yeah um and he also says every time they complain we should 0.52

01:29:34.360 expand our territorial waters by one nautical mile absolutely uh dirty belter says our pirates

01:29:40.980 are better than yours am i wrong am i wrong true and uh geordie swordsman says forget where i stole 0.98

01:29:47.860 this from but we are now a mediterranean country hot weather corrupt government shit economy good 0.77

01:29:53.160 football team yeah yeah i saw that too it's a great point um oh and an honorable mention here 0.95

01:30:00.140 from jimbo g who says my island just arrived that was fast i'm now spared from harry's contempt for

01:30:06.220 a few more months only until the next issue yeah he likes to let his contempt boil ladies and

01:30:12.840 gentlemen no it keeps me happy as soon as it buys uh it sells out then i'm happy

01:30:17.740 well uh we've really enjoyed it today ladies and gentlemen hope you've enjoyed the show

01:30:22.960 do go to over to the website get yourself the latest copy of islander

01:30:27.360 and we look forward to seeing you for the podcast tomorrow take care

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 16, 2026

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