The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1464
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Summary
The lads are joined by the British Democratic candidate for the Clacton by-election, Nick Dixon and Kai Stephens of the British Democrats, to discuss immigration, racism in the football and the current state of British politics.
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Hi folks, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday the 17th of July 2026.
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I'm joined by Nick Dixon and Kai Stephens of the British Democrats.
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I'm the candidate for the British Democrats in the Clacton by-election.
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I'm just going to be honest, I've never actually heard of the British Democrats.
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Yeah, yeah, go on, tell me something about them.
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We are currently working on our re-migration policy.
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We've been a little bit busy with local elections, then obviously the Clacton opportunity came up,
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so our people who arrived at have been very busy with all other parts of the party.
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The British Democrats is a party that was formed in the early 2010s, whilst the BNP was collapsing,
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a group of the members, I think it was primarily Adrian Davies, a friend of Jonathan Bowles and
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people who know the law around him, went to form this party. However, it wasn't taken up properly
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as an institution until around about 2021 and I personally joined it at the start of this year in
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January after I was sort of a little bit politically homeless so I was someone who was a founding
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member of the Homeland Party and things felt very bleak after the Homeland Party died and I found
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in them that there were people with great campaigning knowledge people who had actually
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been MEPs people have been councillors so if there was any group of people who had wisdom that needed
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to be passed down to the next generation especially for nationalists it would certainly be them
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and so far yeah the uh the party like i say mainly focuses on community politics
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and presenting nationalism in a good strong light okay uh so today we're going to be talking about
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uh the football you're a football guy uh a little bit on and off when it gets a little bit close to
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the um you know semi-files i start taking a little bit more of an interest you know i know a lot of
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people don't necessarily like football for the obvious reasons but it is nice to see an england
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flag and people being patriotic and happy i'm not a football guy but i am interested in diversity
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uh then we're going to be talking about duolipa well i'm talking about banned books and the
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basically the woke collapse of literature and publishing and so yeah it sounds weird to be
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talking about duolipa's banned books but it is actually interesting and luckily i know loads
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about football as well so i'm the uh that's good yeah that's lucky uh it's not going to come up
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and then we're going to be talking about the um the the weird and slow motion embarrassing
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meltdown of british politics which has uh accumulated in the crowning of andy burnham
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uh it's going to begin in clacton though so it will be relevant i promise uh but it'll uh expand
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to the rest of the country uh you're looking forward to going bankrupt because i think that's
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going to happen um anyway right let's let's begin uh diversity is our strength is something we are
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told over and over and over particularly when it comes to the football we are told that a lot don't
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we nick yes and has it been our strength well that's a big question it's a big question i mean
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i know what you're going to get at which is that they keep saying look how diverse team is amazing
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and then if it loses you have to then say well then is that diversity's fault yes yeah i knew
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that was where you were going that's because that's very obvious i've got thoughts on this
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but i'll let you develop it and then i'll appreciate that all right well before we begin
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islander 6 is on sale so go to shop.loses.com and get your copy today the theme of this island
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is what needs to be done and it's excellent my article in there is particularly good i have to
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say uh but that's because i wrote it and i think i probably should say that anyway let's let's begin
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so um england lost uh i'm not a football guy so i was frankly relieved to not have to hear about
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the football all the time but i am sad for everyone else who's sad that england lost
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uh they lost to the argentinians who played really dirty i hear in the first half yeah it
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was niggly nasty they're always like that it was expected yeah they're the argentinians i said
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before the game they're going to cheat more than tony soprano and i was correct yeah i mean what
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did anyone expect ultimately they were also just better because the problem is england always come
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up see i am a football person i've been watching it since 1990 when we got to the semi-final against
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west germany 1990 me and my brother watching it as kids it was such a magical thing and it's become
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less magical as time's gone on but we always the problem is with england we're always up against
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basically germany brazil argentina france spain sometimes portugal italy and only one or two of
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have to be any good so at the moment brazil germany and italy are rubbish but argentina france
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and spain are really good so we tend to get to that kind of level just below the top tier and
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that's just where we are and we just tend to hover at that level we got to the final of the euros
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we get to the semi-final of the world cup we haven't won it's in 66 and we just when it's in
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england we have a chance that's why we got to the final in euros but we just the reality is
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i predicted this because we just hover below that level at all times not very political that's just
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pure sporting context for you i'll take your word for that okay because all i can hear is them
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constantly going on about how we need more diversity i i'm okay fair enough i'm a fair-minded
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man if the diversity is going to pay dividends then i can hear the argument for it um but it
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doesn't seem to be paying dividends i mean like this is the argentinian team which if i can get
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it down there is pretty homogenous they're all argentinian probably all criminal records um
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definitely don't own the falkland islands but they're all as you'd expect lucky base starmer
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slapped them down on that one yeah he did uh here's the england team which has a lot more diversity in
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it and so obviously we've had a lot of people saying things like well and this this this chap
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is some um the general secretary of the national education union the largest education union in
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europe so you can imagine how unbelievably woke that union is that's the teachers union
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if england beat argentina tomorrow and reach the world cup final remember it will be multi-racial
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england that has won england in all its diversity honestly i feel like i'm being lectured to by like
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anti-racist hitler right not the narrow exclusionary vision of england the farage
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lowe robinson and others trying to create okay you know that is objectionable because they're
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making it about that and then if you reply in kind then they don't like it but they're the
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ones that have made that politicized and about the ethnic makeup yeah see i think see you might
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not like this but leo did a piece on here which was quite good about how every team now sort of
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is the same i think that is a shame because we've lost the natural diversity of the world which is
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every team looks like what you associate with that country and that's not argentina all about
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no i know well yeah there's a couple of exceptions norway scott i mean look at them i literally feel
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like every single one of them is about to start a fight with me that's what they like and steal my
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wallet yeah and in Messi's 39 he's still gonna do that um but can I just say the point you won't
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like which is it can be a little bit crankish to sort of when everyone's behind the football it's
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kind of like a losing issue to be going on about the ethnic makeup of the team when everyone's
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into the football you see what I mean that's why I waited until we lost points to be scored there
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at all and it's a it's kind of a dreaded fear of mine if England do win the Euros or if they do win
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the world cup that it will always be used as a propaganda piece against us so me amongst my
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friends we joke about that that would be multiculturalism saved basically yeah it was
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always a uh i can't remember who it was made of a sticker it might have been sam melia but he
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produced one for the hundred handers which said something to the effect of um 1066 um normal
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invasion of england 1966 england wins the world cup you know 2066 britain's to be a britain's to
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be a white minority yeah and uh yeah unfortunately that may be thwarted as a bit of propaganda if
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they do win of course during the euros as well when it got to the penalties they intentionally
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had their free african players like that we'll get to that in a minute but the point is you are
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you are right nick like on on a sporting level i don't know anything about football and you are
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right that you know you can't make this point while england is still in the cup in the cup
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but now that we've lost okay i'm going to make this point because they were bloody making this
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point and i want to address this point on the merits because england has a white minority team
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as we see and it didn't win and his explicit explicit premise is well if it wins then
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multi-racial england will won well we can all complete this syllogism england didn't win
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therefore multi-racial england did not win therefore diversity is not our strength and
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this is something that they've been as you said hammering for a number of years i mean you remember
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the gareth southgate loss in 2024 where he had to resign after it because as you were saying he
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lined up a bunch of like young ethnic minority men that he seems to have chosen on the grounds
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that they were ethnic minorities and then they screwed up the penalties and everyone was like
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oh well that's terrible but then what were they saying afterwards oh actually diversity is more
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important than football but that's literally what their bloody narrative was afterwards
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breaking down barriers that no other england manager has ever managed gareth southgate has
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created an inclusive caring team ethos okay that's horrible yeah i mean yes even true i don't know
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i don't know what that even means i mean it sounds pretty gay but like yeah yeah yeah i mean they yes
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they they start it they politicize it and they go on constantly about women's football which
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you're legally obliged to like so yeah they do sort of put it on the table yeah southgate of
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course has his critics particularly among the anti-woke warriors who have never forgiven him
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supporting players taking the knee and support black lives matter and saying white people have
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to speak up about racism as well is that okay but get retired early yeah southgate was disgustingly
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woke one thing about tuchel although it looks from the last game that he may be not quite the
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man because he he bottled it at the end and went defensive but he is apolitical so they've tried
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to drag him into things like ukraine and all this southgate um tuchel current manager he just said
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guy i'm a i'm a coach i'm not getting into you know where southgate was just mr woke so what
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language was he saying in that was a bavarian german accent right okay yeah that's interesting
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interesting it was close wasn't it no no i'm not i'm not criticizing your accent i'm criticizing
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the state of british football oh the fact we have a german manager yeah german manager
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minority white team can't win anything interesting it's i blame the germans what can i say hey hey
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tell you about my genes earlier well i mean we mess that we brought a german manager because
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he's going to be elite and then he messes up and does the same that we always do which is what
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let go defensive fail to keep the ball in the big moments anyway sorry carl anyway so as you can see
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like you know you might you might be like well why are you making it political why are you making it
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about race it's like i'm not they're making it about race they have explicitly made this about
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race to shove it in our face over and over and over saying no no no diversity is our strength
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if we win it's multi-racial england that wins okay it didn't work with gareth southgate but still
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the football wasn't important the diversity was important i mean like the the carrying
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inclusive england team is a greater victory than any on the pitch it's like well i mean i'm glad
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i'm not a football fan right because if this were the kind of narrative that was surrounding the
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game for me i'd be pissed off about it it's infuriating i basically carry on watching it
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just so i've got something to talk to my family about because var is awful on the technical level
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and that's sort of somehow tied up with technocracy in general and then the wokeness the kneeling
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the armbands it is it is appalling yeah and it got particularly during blm it went insane in the
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premier league it was on every advertising hoarding it was on the graphics on sky and they
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were particularly promoting this extremist money laundering organization and then they tried to
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sort of when it became obvious what a disgusting thing blm was they tried to tone it down and go
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and this is just a general message about racism it's like why is that the specific branding of
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that organization there because before they've been like kick give the red car to race or whatever
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kick it out and all that fairly generic stuff which no one really had a problem with but then
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it came to like no this is a marxist organization that wants to destroy the nuclear family like
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i'm sorry why is this on the football so it became absurd well because i mean what year was this like
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2020 2020 yeah yeah because that was when black lives matter was at its absolute peak and do you
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remember that they they started taking the knee and then everyone else stopped taking the knee
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and they still carried on taking carried on longer than yeah anyway oh god it's so embarrassing man
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the amount of booing that would go on as well i believe the tvs had to start sort of like muting
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the audio in some way yeah yeah luckily that's gone but what we had in america course is the
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water breaks and this attempt to americanize it with basically four quarters but the great thing
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was the english fans booed every single water break which is just so great just because it's
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soft and stupid and they don't like change and softness anyway so uh you might remember the
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lionesses in 2025 who actually won the women's 2025 euros now a lot of the time especially on
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the right they're like ah women's football's crap who cares it's like yeah okay maybe i don't know
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anything about football i don't care how do you feel about women's football it is crap the goals
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are far too big they need to make them smaller goals are big the goal well women are much smaller
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women's goals are bigger are they no they're the same size the men's but that means that they're
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far too big because a woman keepers are massive and the average woman's much smaller than the
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average man they're trying to jump around this massive goal they can't do it but if they made
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the goal smaller that would be admitting it's a different sport and so you have to pretend that
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it's amazing and the same it was so funny because i mean i play five aside i went into the pub with
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my football team and the i it was always a known thing that the goalies were terrible in women's
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football and then they were talking about the women's football and i said oh yeah but the
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goalies aren't very good are they and it was like it was like one of those record-stopping moments
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everyone turned to me and said they've got a lot better nick and i was like sorry and i was like
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oh we have to pretend they're good now i hadn't got the memo that that was the current thing
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what i like about that is kind of the real life um example of the comment section being closed
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isn't it no no no you're not allowed to you know anyway so you know good for the lionesses i didn't
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care because i'm not a football guy but i did find it very interesting what the uh what the
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one of the women said afterwards we have that grit we're there we've got english blood in us so
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we're never we never say die and we just keep going and we did that today
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that was a weird thing to say right irish blood english heart yeah yeah we've got english blood
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in them at least well there yeah exactly there was only like two diverse players on the women's
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euros 2025 team and these ladies came out yeah we've got english blood in us therefore we won
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it's like are we we just ignoring this like are we do we need to talk about diversity gareth
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it's the strange it's the sort of floating context it's kind of like the hijab is a
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celebrate getting rid of the hijab is a celebration in iran but putting on the hijab is a celebration
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in the west so it's also context specific hypocrisy so the women's team because women's
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football is so anointed it's so progressive they can say anything it's like yeah comes out with
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blood and soil nationalism because stripped from the insane context we're in now that would
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in the past that would just been a fairly generic comment meaning yes we have a lion heart spirit
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yes and that's all it means but now it's like yes in the now you go oh wow it seems like a
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bizarre political statement well she comes out and basically says we have superior blood to our
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pathetic foreign foes it's the genes it's like a trump you know but obviously at the time no you
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know they're in the full flush of victory so no one can critique and i'm not even saying there's
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anything to critique here i just found it really interesting how the very successful women's team
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whether you like women's football or not are like yeah yeah it's because we we we had english but
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what she's saying then we've got the same grit we've got the same never say die attitude but
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it's because they all share the same sort of mindset right is that true about heterogeneous
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teams well I was going to say one thing you should really be impressed by is that the team is so
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integrated that they bottled it in the exact same way that England always has they failed to keep
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possession when when we were ahead in the game which England have never been able to do therefore
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we went too deep inviting pressure and lost and that we've lost in that way Paul Scholes was
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saying like that we always did that for England we've been losing like that because we don't have
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the technicality to hold the ball we've been losing like that for years so the integration
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it's a success story it's like how do they bottle in the exact same way and i kind of noticed that
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like spain have a pretty homogenous team too as in all of these people look like they're really
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lazy and are about to go for a siesta right so interesting how the argentinians and the spain
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i mean there's there's got to be some bad blood there right because it's not like spain's got
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great relationships with its ex-colonies since it fought loads of wars of revolutions mock
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argentinians they think they've got they have like a sing-song accent and they mock them i agree with
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the spaniards on this so yeah we argentines are our enemies clearly well so the spaniards but you
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know but that was settled a long time ago but the point is the two themes in the final again
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homogenous theme so it's like okay i don't know anything about football i'm not judging anything
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on the merits but the narrative that has surrounded all of this is diversity is our
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strength if diversity if the england team wins and diversity wins and actually we lose and then
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when we did win it was from a basically homogenous squad who were like yeah it was in the blood
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and it's like look the diversity narrative around the football it's just not working for them right
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this is not not a good narrative i don't know if this is something perhaps a little bit sensitive
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to touch on but i saw an interesting tweet from an african who said something to the effect of
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we've had some african teams win but now they will start playing poorly because all the players
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always play selfishly and i've also had the same thing said about the england team as well so
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is there some sort of like cultural interjection there where perhaps the african players they more
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want to play for themselves and more looking for glory less team players less cohesive well that
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i honestly i think that's the question because i'm not saying that you know there's anything
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wrong with the players or the teams or anything like that or there's any you know i don't know
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genetics or anything but like is is it the question of diversity meaning a lack of sort of
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of shed trust right that we see in wider society generally does that also apply to football teams
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and i don't know you know but all i'm saying is the diverse teams keep losing i mean it's worse
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in france than like one in four players were born outside of the bloody country and there's there is
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an image but it's like mostly africans on the french team anyway i can't find it for now last
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one um wherever it was but yeah so although it's sorry yeah 21 out of 26 players on france's world
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cup team are of african descent it's like jesus christ yeah it is different i mean football now
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is so uniform in general that it's become like the disappointing thing about the world cup is
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every team looks the same and they all play roughly like the premier league well spain are a bit
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different but football in general has become much more uniform it used to be a kind of known thing
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A lot of people I know in France look at that and think,
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The host of trigonometry probably agree with him, to be honest.
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No, no, no, the host of trigonometry are against him on this.
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No, no, I know, I know, and don't get me wrong,
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So it's just, sorry, what were you going to say now?
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No, I was just going to say, it's interesting that Campbell
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even acknowledges his French friends won't say that,
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because France is known as, let's say it's fairly sort of nativist, isn't it?
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it's just known like that they're like you better speak French we're not even going to listen if you
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speak English they believe in their French culture and food and writers and so on and they sort of
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somewhat hermetically sealed in that way not completely but they've been less woke than other
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countries and so it's interesting he just says his French friends say no you know and Daniel
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Hannan put up that tweet where he got criticized didn't he saying that his French friend had called
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up and Daniel's like are you watching the Lord Hannan I should say are you watching the uh France
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But actually, the homogenous teams are winning,
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and the non-homogeneous teams are losing so i can understand people saying why are you bothered
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you know it's the world now camel saying it's they should be proud of it is weird well it's
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not just campbell is it you know it's it's back to this um wherever he was i lost it yeah yeah
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no it's that guy so yeah back to this guy as well so again for them this is about the validation
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of the narrative of diversity and multiculturalism and so even in loss they can find the positive
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that are actually the true success was diversity and inclusion and so like your football teams are
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losing so their political narrative can succeed and i just wanted to make that very very clear
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because it's just so like so self-evident and like i said i'm not a football guy but every time the
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football's on i see them pitching this narrative and then i see the diverse team lose uh but i see
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the homogenous team win and then say yeah it's because we're all homogenous it's because we're
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all english that we won and it was just like okay this is i mean am i am i not supposed to notice
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this am i not supposed to say anything about this i mean it makes me rather sad right perhaps this is
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a utopian vision in this day and age but i would like to see you know take like a town like
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sunderland for example where the football team is incredibly important to them yeah by the entire
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morale of the area is based on how their team does yeah i'd want to see that team you know not
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doing like a you know international eugenics program to find like the best footballers in
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the most you know run down favelas i want to see him promoting people in sanderland and i would
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like to see the same in norwich because it makes sense you'd want your team to represent football
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is coming from the place that they are playing for it seems like such a fun concept this day and
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i agree with that as well i'd love to see teams that are local and at the very least sort of
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generally near that area or something like that yeah i mean because if you're from i've got a
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lad i went to school with whose son is now uh in the man united squad and so that's that's cool but
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If you're from the lakes, you're not going to have a team,
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But yeah, it would be much better, wouldn't it,
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because football used to be about community, as you say.
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And when it becomes about getting the most expensive,
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you know, genetically gifted player from the far ends of the world,
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Like, everyone's like, okay, yeah, I'm going to cheer for France,
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and then it's just a bunch of foreigners running around and they're like yeah we're gonna win so
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what do you mean we like yeah that can go too far i mean like jude bellingham's grandfather was
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english and he did you see that clip of him on mastermind he was incredibly good yeah and he's
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sort of an old school english guy with the mustache the kind of really old school so some
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people can take it too far and think that you know jude bellingham's not english which is not
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fair but half of them are like from ghana or wherever and it's just like okay you know like
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and like the instagram post so it's like oh look they're all of african descent and it's like
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okay so why would a french person want to cheer for this french team is one of the most extreme
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examples definitely yeah i mean i still stormzy being like oh yeah who do you want to win england
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or ghana he's like well i want ghana to win because we need the points so oh do we need
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the points do we they were shocked by that when they thought he was going to say england
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yeah because they literally said oh you said a draw i think he said a draw because i'm both yeah
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yeah but they like garner needs the points and it's like yeah okay i'm just very tired of like
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the pretense and it's so obviously about the political narrative and i'm just very tired of
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like this political narrative being imposed on everything and when it does turn out that
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diversity wasn't our strength well it's forbidden to say so anyway leave that there how many young
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people's dreams have been quashed because they wanted to play for a local team and you know
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it literally international diversity hiring goes on instead it's absurd to me there are many memes
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that i could make i could quote about that but i'm not going to um scott says why does carl keep
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uploading his hour-long political chats 30 minutes before the podcast so i'm conflicted on what to
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watch well if it helps i don't upload them uh that's what we have a team for and i try not to
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interfere with the way that they schedule things because they know what they're doing um but on
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the plus side i mean this one's live that one's not what's this one first uh sigil stone says
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carl it's nice uh if you it's nice if you all right of you to have harry's son on
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you're and harry's son on you're harry's son no i'm harry and your son oh are you
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a little hard to read how did that happen i spent a few minutes
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i choose to believe the base thomas tuchel made the dodgy defensive changes on purpose to
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preemptively demolish the multicultural weaponization godspeed my bald germanic
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brother is that true is he that's that's 4d chess yeah i did it on purpose guys yes and he's also
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mentioning the norwood he's a bold norwood advocate to call he doesn't shave it have you seen that our
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balding subreddit where all the balding guys go on there shave the heads and there's a massive
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glow up yeah i've seen that really handsome a bit of a sensitive subject for me guys
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yeah not doing too good for 21 it's been it's been a rough are you only 21
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There's only about 12 of them, and then they go forever.
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So Dua Lipa, the popular singer, has come up with a list of so-called banned books.
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You might say, why do we care about this, Nick?
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Someone's going to have to inform me who Dua Lipa is.
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why is this relevant two reasons one it's the woke destruction of literature so people on this
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panel are aware that woke destroyed gaming for example other people on the panel are aware that
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woke destroyed comedy we've all suffered for these things this duolipa person looks like she's about
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to steal my wallet that was a meme about yeah people say the ancient uh yeah they know the
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ancient gypsy all right she is she's albanian albanian yeah okay so one of these people is
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she's definitely stealing my money but only for albania and not for not for anywhere else right
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um so it's the woke destruction of literature is one big theme and that's that's the main theme
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and the other theme is the progression from the sort of liberal world of sort of individual
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expression and so on into the woke world and what she tries to do with this list of banned books
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is create a clear line between those and of course some post-liberal thinkers would say
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there is a clear line between them but she's saying it in a positive way and i'll show you
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what i mean she's basically trying to hijack the cachet of banned books which basically means
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classics like 1984 and she's trying to claim that she's trying to put them alongside in a curated
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list with full-on woke ideological activism posing as literature this is what really bothers me about
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it so i'll prove it now so so julie opens a banned books library in one of the world's most beautiful
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bookshops it's in lay low which is a famous bookshop in porto um and they say that it's to
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assemble a permanent collection of 100 titles we still recognize as manifestos of freedom and open
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the manifesto library at livery or whatever it's called lela so so it's all about saying it's about
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freedom these are manifestos of freedom now a few three things immediately well one thing was
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immediately clear when i heard that duolipa was coming up with a list of banned books and that
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was that they definitely wouldn't be banned yeah and three reasons one it's virtually a tautology
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to say if she can get hold of them and easily stock a famous bookshop they're not banned
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two there's zero chance a famous pop star would suddenly be like it's the david irving jeweler
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leaper collection she's not going to suddenly have any genuinely controversial books i'm saying she
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sure but she's definitely not going to do that that would be very funny though it'd be hilarious
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it'd be like those memes when they sydney sweeney or lana del rey saying some dense political point
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you know attributed to them and the third reason i knew they wouldn't be banned is if you've been
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in waterstones you sometimes see this band book section and it's always just plot work orange
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1984 books that were in one handmaid's tale the handmaid's tale is always in there and it is in
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here and it's the perfect emblem really of what this is which i'll get on to so so really it's
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incredibly um mainstream books it's stuff that i did at school like handmaid's tale and it's stuff
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that i did at university like for example uh things fall apart by a kb or invisible man by
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Ellison so these are incredibly mainstream books so Simone de Beauvoir the second sex that's not a
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banned book none of them are banned now to be very fair on the banned thing they do acknowledge
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they're not necessarily banned they say the collection also includes books that may never
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have been formally banned but have nevertheless questioned existing structures of power or the
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suppression of individual and collective voices making room for those whose stories that have
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others have tried to erase okay saints that doesn't feature weirdly that doesn't feature
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in cold blood i mean really the the popular non-fiction novel by truman capote you know
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it's it's tenuous stuff but what really bothers me is if you go down to the voice section it's
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particular so they've got these different sections control i'll get onto that one voice
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so this category amplifies voices that have historically or systematically been marginalized
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excluded or underrepresented these works reclaim space visibility and narrative authority through
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questions of race gender identity geography and belonging trevor noah and trevor noah is in that
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Yeah, and Decolonising the Mind by Nugugi's in there,
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I studied at university, Ralph Ellison's only novel.
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And I find this fascinating because of a few reasons.
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Holden Caulfield won the great literary creation.
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And so what really annoys me about this is
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white men are explicitly banned from publishers or have been for a very long time. And they would
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say, this is the narcissistic ramblings of a privileged white man. It's about a kid going
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to prep school. You know, they would hate it. But Dua Lipa, in having this list, tries to create
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a link between Catching the Rye and genderqueer by Kababi, which is what? It's a coming of age
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story about someone realizing they're outside of the gender binary. Okay. Can you really put
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these things together. Can you put together the era of great literature that was about individual
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genius, eccentric individual genius, freedom, artistic risk, artistic expression? Can you
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really conflate that with stamped racism, anti-racism anew by Ibram X. Kendi? I say no,
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but there's two broad schools of thought on the whole idea that liberalism kind of became woke,
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right? So certain post-liberal thinkers, maybe Deneen or someone would say it had the inherent
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logic that had the seeds of its own destruction within it then an andrew doyle would say woke is
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a hard break from liberalism and it as an attack on it from the outside andrew doyle's wrong on
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that you say he's wrong i'm i'm not taking a stance except to say that what jua lipa's doing
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is a sort of is a variation on the first one she's saying yes it's an extension of it but in a good
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way yeah so they all say that they all say that to show how we know that there is an extension of
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you can look at uh kimberly crenshaw's initial work like just shortly before she coins the term
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intersectionality right so um i can't remember the name of it she always has really long names
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to these essays um but in the very first one in i think it was 1988 what she's critiquing
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is the nature of the liberal uh categories that they use to identify uh forms of oppression so
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she will say, ah, well, look, this person, because he's a black man, has been arrested here. This
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person, because she is a white woman, has been arrested here. But if you're a black woman,
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then you're actually not treated under the double oppression that the system is oppressing you under
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because we don't recognize that black and woman are intersecting categories that form a double
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form of oppression. And so it's explicitly using the liberal framework of categorical rights
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claims that she is just combining and that was always possible to do we'd just never done it
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until the late 80s and so it's there's there's no she doesn't reframe anything there's no
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she's not going outside of the liberal order she is expressly combining two things that were always
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there and always could have been combined it's just nobody had done until that point and she
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was very successful because of course if you're a liberal you go well that's true i agree that the
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black man is being oppressed i agree that woman's oppressed and therefore why shouldn't a black
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woman be doubly oppressed you can't escape the logic of it so this is why Andrew Doyle is wrong
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on that I'm afraid yeah and it's a compelling I like Andrew Doyle yeah I like him I read his book
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I questioned him on aspects of his book as well um I'm quoted in actually so it's got some good
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points but um I did uh I did have him on my podcast and ask him some things like about that
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but what troubles me and it may be just that this was where it was always going to go because a lot
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of writers are lefties as well but yeah it what bothers me is that we had these genuine literary
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achievements and just as just as few woke people will openly say they hate free speech they'll
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pretend to like it there's something about the cachet of these genuinely great works which are
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in there that they sort of that Dua Lipa knows is cool she knows she wants to have the banned cachet
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because some of these people actually have been banned and she also wants to sort of harness
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genuine literary achievements so just to i just thought i'd look up that uh Kimberley Crenshaw
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essay title if anyone wanted it it is called the marginalizing the intersection of race and sex a
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black feminist critique of anti-racist anti-discrimination doctrine feminist theory and
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anti-racist politics as i said she always has really long titles um that you can never remember
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but that's the one where she critiques it but sorry carry on no no and i so and in sexualism
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is literally mentioned somewhere in here it's either one of the book titles or it's in one
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of the blurbs i can't remember but what bothers me is that there was a time of actually great
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literature how you can't have a literary culture where the Salinger of today would never be allowed
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anywhere near it while putting Salinger in your list and claiming he's on a continuum with these
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others even if you can argue politically they are that's what bothers me about the list doesn't the
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adventures of Huckleberry Finn have the n-word yes yeah and so you go that wouldn't pass it wouldn't
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pass and none of most of these wouldn't you see either because of the personal behavior of the
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writer or i mean salinger had a relationship with a much uh younger woman girl really i mean i think
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she was 18 and he was like 50 something he'd be cancelled william burroughs is in the list he'd
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be cancelled for so many reasons i mean he did accidentally shoot his wife in the head so probably
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also be in prison but it'd certainly be cancelled just to give you an idea of what the publishing
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industry is like i found this from the um wish list of a new york uh literary agency of things
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they should send and shouldn't send so here are things that writers shouldn't send to this agent
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books with suicide ideation gratuitous violence or mass shootings this by the way rules out
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Welbeck's extraordinary novel submission one of the great contemporary novels uh because the
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character constantly thinks about killing himself throughout books with eating disorders unchallenged
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fat phobia or unchallenged diet culture imagine that rules out a book called transcription which
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is done really well by a guy called Ben Lerner I hate the book but it actually rules out even
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sort of celebrated contemporary literary authors bizarrely stories featuring nazi zionist zionism
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ice republicans police or military no police or military military yeah even leaving aside her
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obvious hate for israel police or military is gone world war ii so catch 22 slaughterhouse five are
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gone civil war era fiction these things she's keeping out of it these are don't send me right
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so you can't you can't read hit uh churchill's memoirs no well these are like non-fiction these
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like don't send me these things if you're a writer so civil war era fiction unless written
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from a marginalized perspective maybe the south um i've got my southern uh civil war stuff um
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not what i meant dated ideals of partnership relationships femininity and masculinity so
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that's everything romance containing sexual acts without some form of understood consent verbal
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or otherwise you must not want women to read them yeah but who wants it i mean who who is thinking i
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only read books that have a that has a on like non-consensual sex i mean that's a bizarre thing
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or romance containing sexual acts with characters that are heavily intoxicated i mean that's every
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like brettys and ellis book gone so no drugs or drinking with sex conservative or conservative
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leaning books of course are gone dark and gritty books couldn't have fight club issue driven books
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that's everything everything she's listed an issue driven book on her thing on her list is an issue
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driven book yes but this is a separate thing this was just me me highlighting the state of the
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publishing industry oh right as we are today with an extreme example but sorry i was busy reading
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about you're busy reading up on intersectional no no i was i was reading up about jody um pico
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19 minutes because i used to work in a book uh i used to work in the warehouse of a book club an
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online book club and so we would have to like you know send books things and there were loads of
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jodie picou books and so i'd flip through a few of them they just seem like women's romance novels
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yes so like oh she's got a banned book on there and i looked up it's a it's a book about school
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shooting actually that would be banned as well well yeah i actually worked in a book warehouse
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as well for a short period of time but this would have been uh i think as well i was 19 about two
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years ago and something i noticed whilst i was in there right because you know i was getting
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you know you're pushing books all day you get bored so i'd always try to like read the blurb
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of every book i was pushing and something i noticed is a lot of the fiction books wrote for
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children are like so incredibly woke it's like it's like you'd think like ben shapiro wrote it
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as like a satire for a film or something right i remember one in particular i can't remember the
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name of the book but it had something about like oh you know our secret gay agenda on like part of
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the iconography and one where it was about um the british colonization of india and the indian
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children are having their magic stolen from them by the british i later saw it in waterstones
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when even growing up going to high school i'd get the bus to the city and as i'm walking through
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see i walk past waterstones what do i see on all the shelves why i'm no longer speaking to white
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people about race we can go to a local bookshop and it's like and the answer is it's far worse
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white people about race and stuff like that it's like it's literally like no no we need to program
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young women to be insane radicals against like everything i know yeah and that was in a clothes
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shop i know really weird sorry anyway i know well woke hasn't gone away it's no it's just one um
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yeah so she doesn't want issue driven books and then some other stuff but the funny thing is
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there's some funny stuff she does want adult romance novels graphic novels young adult romance
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memoir adult non-fiction fat main characters she does want that disabled main characters happy
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endings writing that's funny on the line level imagine trying to be funny while not incorporating
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any of these you're just like you're dodging like endless like you're like dodging all the lasers
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while thinking but i've got to be funny it gets he is looking for monsters polycules triads
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throuples trade union workers how many trade union people are in a throuple or a polycule this is
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what i want to know main characters over 30 finally when i can get behind yeah i feel
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represented finally there's any else bossy bottoms i don't know what that is i don't even
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know what it is too old do you want me to explain or no no no no i'm curious i'm curious i believe
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a bossy bottom would be referring to someone who is sexually submissive as being bossy about it so
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perhaps a power bottom might be more traditional so it's a gay thing it's a gay very gay thing
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gay thing fat main character disabled main character lots of tropes that's good extra
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spice no idea will commit murder for the love interest love interest specific it's so specific
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love interest seems morally gray but is actually a marshmallow with heart of gold underneath the
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hard child exterior just write the book yourself she wants such a specific book it's an insanely
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morally gray marshmallow who kills someone and is fat disabled and has tropes of course
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gonna have tropes in it by the way but he's also very very uh open about asking consent
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and yes he's morally gray but he would never yeah and he's a bossy start combining more of
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his traits so we've got bossy bottom fat main character trade union worker and a polycule
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that actually describes quite a few of the green party council
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that's not that's that's not far from being a joke by the way i might put this into chat gpt
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suit that comes up with yeah and it just goes on and on like this university world i think yeah
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and it's insane they say i especially love when a book has strong themes of love and
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friendship and it's extra queer you get the idea it's hilarious oh that was the one i was
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thinking of especially interested in authors writing about the intersections of their identities
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there it is so it just gives you an idea um maybe i'll go back to the list to show you that
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this is what's going on in publishing so all these people will be cancelled nowadays people
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like uh william burroughs uh they have naked lunch in the control section to kill a mockingbird oh
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yeah that's on the bad list yeah i mean it's you read it at school you were made to read it in
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school yes i'm just going to go to the control section because this one bothers me as well so
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in control these are works that explore the mechanisms of control both visible and invisible
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including surveillance propaganda technological influence and ideological conditioning which i
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find hilarious in a list that has things like genderqueer and anti-racism are they self-aware
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or no it's extraordinary well if you've got brave new world in there and you've got all of this
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excessive sexualized stuff like sorry this this is why aldous huxley was correct and george orwell
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was wrong they use sex as a weapon to control you and make everything about you just completely
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debauched they still think they can use the cachet of a huxley while saying things like this and
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notice as well who were the most fierce advocates of state tech surveillance and tech control during
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covid it was the woke yeah so you've got kafka's the trial in here sort of the seminal critique of
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bureaucracy but they're the most bureaucratic people they're the most wear your mask people
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kafka would hate these people but it's because orwell would hate these people because he always
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criticized the left's hypocrisy but it's because the sort of like pre-woke left understood like
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you know george orwell audace huxley huxley um uh was the guy who wrote fahrenheit 451 ray bradbury
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that's it like they recognize them as they're sort of like the classic dystopian uh warnings
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So it's like, yeah, don't let it all become like this.
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And now they're at the point where they don't even recognise
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But they can't just dump them, because that's kind of like,
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Yeah, because they still want the cachet of it.
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Yeah, let's, this whole list is The Handmaid's Tale
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It's like, why would a bunch of infertile women
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No, but the handmaids are forced to be impregnant,
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Like, why would you think infertile women would become...
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Like, you know, if it was only like a third of the women
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Like, handmaids would be the infertile ones.
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We're going to critique a fictitious Christian patriarchy
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2022 he is actually stabbed over this book so you cannot say that's not a controversial book
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and also albania being a muslim country so theoretically she being at least a nominal
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muslim and like she's a normal muslim but i'll have to check that well i'm gonna check but
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what's interesting about it to me is i think they've missed something my theory is because
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it's portugal you know how europe is sometimes slightly less woke or they've just let it in
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there because this book exists on the fault line between these two but it's actually a critique of
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something progressives protect yes it's a critique of islam yeah this is well it's on the fault line
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because what do we have with rushdie we had rushdie defended by the liberal old guard christopher
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hitchens and many others then we saw this era where people like shirley williams liberal democrat
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started attacking rushdie saying he shouldn't have a knighthood famously hitchens defends him
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on question time and this thing was 2010 maybe it was a long time and so this book and rushdie
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himself exists on the fault line between the old liberal idea that it's bad to have a fatah against
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you to the new idea that all muslims are oppressed by the west and shut up about it yeah so that's
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why i'm surprised it's in there because that's the only genuinely edgy choice therefore that
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remains and i think is it like a mistake have you ever read it or do you know about it so the
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satanic verses there are a couple of verses in the quran where muhammad seems to concede that
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there are two other gods or that satan's whispering in his ear or something like that which of course
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throws all of islam into doubt right and therefore if you write a book about all of this you can find
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yourself with a fatwa and people trying to murder you in the street yeah like this is genuinely that
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that is a genuinely edgy inclusion exactly so i think is it is it because it's portugal and
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you know it's like michelle welbert can still be a literary star in france and he does need
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protection now after because it after charlie hebdo they kind of he was kind of targeted but
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but sometimes europe's a little bit less woke so i wonder if it's something to do with that
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or have they just not realized how far Rushdie is now banned by the woke really you know sort of
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sort of quasi-banned so I don't know so that's my my theory with the list is it tries to use this
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old cachet of great works and segues into the evil of woke but I am stumped slightly by the fact
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the way I put it I wrote an article I said you either celebrate beauty individual expression
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and artistic risk or identity ideological conformity and activism posing as art you can't
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have both. And I do maintain that, but I do wonder what you do about the fact that so many writers
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are basically leftists. You know, even Kundera, he's in the list. He was kicked out of the
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Communist Party and so on, but he was still a lefty. I mean, many writers are. Not all of them.
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T.S. Eliot wasn't. Of course, S. for Pound wasn't. C.S. Lewis wasn't. But there is that tendency,
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and even now you get the problem where famous writers like Jonathan Franson are still lefties.
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He wouldn't be allowed to publish. He was younger because he's a white man, but he kind of ignores
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the DEI which is an older white man thing Ian McEwan still publish and so so but I don't know
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what you do about the fact that writers are lefties maybe the logic of the things they wanted
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was always going to go in this direction and destroy literature I want to somehow get back
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which is why I've started my channel Nick Reads which I never promote here but I want to try and
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get back to great literature but but but has literature always has the world of literature
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always been headed towards work like this I don't know I think it doesn't help that there seems to
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be perhaps more so unlike the center right uh a bit of a negative view towards art i'm sort of you
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know going back to the political compass test you know is uh what's more important but businessmen
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or the artist and i feel like a lot of people on the right instinctively think oh you know
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economics or libertarianism you know prosperity oh no the businessmen absolutely so it's something
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we've sort of kind of surrendered to the left at this point but there are still institutions
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which are right wing uh which will you know even be bookshops right you have old speak bookshop
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big shout out to them and then there is a publishing company who did an event with them
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i cannot think of their name apologies uh but they will you know be publishing right wing office they
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published edward mclaren's buffleford's gone uh do you wear that book i'm not yes yes it's a very
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well written book i've started reading and it is essentially about uh a young man growing up in a
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diverse part of britain and it's sort of like witnessing the effects of particularly grooming
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gangs around him and his experiences in school which he based a little bit off of mine so i feel
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like i'm sorry oh wow really in a little part a little part i'm gonna read it but do you know
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what i was gonna mention that point so thank you i forgot yeah this has been ignored by
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conservatives by someone the right to a large extent for the to some degree the whole culture
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has been taken over and it's kind of been allowed to happen someone even replied to me recently yeah
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it's not important in entertainment but when it comes to business and the economy i'm like
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okay try giving 11 years of your life to comedy and tell me it's not important it's like
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it has ruined loads of people's lives. DEI has destroyed lives, that famous Jacob Savage piece
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in Compact. But you're right, we've neglected, particularly literature, men don't read,
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conservatives think it's not important. I think it's a big mistake, because who are the great
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writers of the past? A lot of them are just, they're just sort of white blokes who would not
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be allowed to be published anymore. Orwell's just one of many. But if art wasn't important,
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the left wouldn't spend so much time and money on it. You've got to remember...
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They're obsessed with it. Yeah, everything they do is an attempt to tear down the thing. I mean,
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the odyssey wouldn't happen if they couldn't pervert and debauch it right that's what they
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that's why they spend all this money to do it there is a reference on the in on the right for
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authors of the past but they don't seem to realize that if we've allowed publishing to be this woke
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there's no authors of the future yeah so that annoys us they're all genderqueer polycules
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right so i'm trying to sort of bring this back and say because it's kind of there's more focus
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on gaming and how they destroy gaming the odyssey's a woke film comedy is awful but there's
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not as much focus on literature and it's possibly the most woke area of all of them so i'm just
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trying to highlight it a little bit using a duolipa as an example and that is pretty much
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my segment that's a random name says so duolipa wants smut a stereotype that women women only
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read smut remains undefeated well sometimes they remain they read leftist propaganda as well
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so you know they read morally gray billionaire werewolf
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have you heard of the minotaur milking farm a morning glory yeah madster one yeah i've been
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forced to be exposed to some of it and it's but maybe that could be one for your channel
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yeah yeah yeah no you you really should can i just say on that i mean i don't want to plug
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my channel card but it is amazing i did a video on tom's burnout be humble about it well the reason
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it's so it's relevant not i'm not amazing but not as amazing as my article in london no not
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Yeah, I mean, like with the ability to self-publish,
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one would expect loads of like young right-wing authors
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It's just happened with a book called Theo of Golden.
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but this was self-published, completely ignored.
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it's not just the wokeness there's a list of absurd rules now amongst publishers you have to
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start in media res with the main conflict like a film you have to have a certain page count you
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have to have a certain word count in your sentences sentences can't be above something
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like 38 words it's insane you can't they discourage metaphor this is a real example from a publisher
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i forgot to mention they discourage the use of metaphor i'm like what is there left so there's
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become this and it's just insane factual statements it's bizarre it's become not just so it's not
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just woke it's incredibly risk averse and it's incredibly prescriptive and they basically want
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the next netflix series in the form of a novel so just they've destroyed literature you know
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there are books that take 150 pages and classic novels to get going you know someone's talking
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about war and peace the other day at Tolstoy taking like a long digression about military
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history or something or you know this is the kind of thing i've never read Tolstoy i'm not a
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they've taken everything about classical literature and just got rid of it and said
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book's got to be like a punchy film script that's totally woke with no metaphors
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madness oh this is the reason i'm not going to try and write anything uh anyway let's uh i thought
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we'd have to talk about the kind of embarrassing meltdown of british politics that's currently
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happening uh with the transition from the starmer government to andy burnham and of course the uh
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by-election in clacton and just the if you just take a step back and just look at our political
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environment you're like really is this it is it is this it is this what britain is in 2026 i mean
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you look at the front edge of labor i mean that's going to change but not by much um are there any
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of them that you would put on mastermind uh probably david lamb if i mean if you wanted to
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win but i thought oh but right i think mahmoud could do okay yeah doesn't seem completely stupid
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yeah that's true that great great we've done one use mandelson anymore but i think he probably was
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quite high IQ from my understanding of him clearly wasn't a silly guy I think you are right though
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you can't use Mandelson anymore because literally Mandelson caused a meltdown at the top of the
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Labour Party and in fact is instrumental in one of the reasons that Keir Starmer has been removed
00:55:06.520
so like it's just all of these okay so the Labour Party in charge on a really weak uh victory
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full of morons completely in charge of the country and they're about to steamroll the economy
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because Andy Burnham has just today come out and said a bunch of things that are just like oh god
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he wants to nationalize everything basically and it's like yeah we've got no money we're not going
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to do any of this but anyway so we're completely screwed in that then you've got the conservatives
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who i mean they just have this african anchor baby and everyone's like yeah she's brilliant
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you say she's brilliant i think she's she's plus three in the polls now and burnham's plus three
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she's she's in the positive for the first time i say she's doing well i'm just looking at the
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facts carl i'm not she just feels like such a relic though she feels like she's still stuck in
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like 2016 our culture war politics and perhaps that's why the conservatives have her she's very
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safe yeah the english people want to have a taxes lowered by a black woman more than anything else
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it does make sense to have her there i would like some representation though right that's the thing
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i i'm an englishman i do not feel represented by the conservative party and again it's not just her
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either like it's the michael goves it's the um what's the indian woman priti patel like it's
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james cleverly so look they're the most diverse party in the world and actually labor is a lot
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more not diverse than the conservative parties okay that's embarrassing as they elect their
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next white male leader exactly because they know how the game is played and then you've got reform
00:56:28.920
and it's like okay it's the sort of like dell boy rodney trotter party of british politics
00:56:34.020
there's oh god and they're they're they're declining now because of course farage is
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spectacularly stepped on a rake calling the clackton by-election and so it's just like
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everything's just this weird like melting down everything's just going very badly and because
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of the five million which the press is obsessed with sure sure but like again that's what i mean
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by this sort of del boy politics oh yeah you know so it's like you know the sort of grift politics
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which actually underpins spiv vibes yeah yeah yeah like arthur daly and all that sort of like you
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know yeah he's never been able to quite get away from that for us that's just part of his
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appeal and his and his lack of appeal sure and yeah exactly and it's becoming a lack of appeal
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at this point right because it's like okay so british politics is in this general position
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meltdown and really stupid things are happening so we're going to cover a bunch of those um but
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first go and get islander link will be in the description we're doing this three times so
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people on youtube can see it um it's excellent it's amazing and it's about what we can do next
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and we should do next so i thought we'd talk about the clangton by-election a bit um where's
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your article in the spectator where's my article in the spectator oh i don't know i haven't been
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in touch yet yeah weird because count bimface has got one supporting christopher nolan's odyssey
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i did get one in the eastern daily press to be fair that's very good
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my hometown yeah they're backing me that's good isn't it freddie sayers deciding all this
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i don't know i mean michael gove is the editor in chief sayers seems to decide this what goes
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in this anon herd somehow what what are we doing it's just not funny it's not it was like when my
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cousin my big green party's putting lefty cousin told me about camp in face and all bucket head
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when i was about 11 i thought oh that's kind of funny yeah that was about the extent of that's
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how funny 11 year old me found it yeah yeah it's embarrassing well i said in an article democracy
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dies in tween us it's it's a it's a writer for have i got news for you ultimate centrist dad
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writer the worst one was when he's interviewing alistair campbell or vice versa and they're just
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two centrist dads just saying how great each other is with this incredibly flimsy conceit of a bin
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he's great well you're great alice i mean and you speak across the aisle to rory and i was like
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But the only thing that's justifying this is a bin,
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but you're just another establishment centrist dad
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I'm like, that's incredibly flimsy, no point in turning.
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that comes across kind of like a Pledge of Allegiance.
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who's embarked on a colossal journey and pulled it off,
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which makes him nothing short of a cinematic Odysseus.
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and then they've all endorsed him so kemi badenock andy burnham and keir starmer have all endorsed
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camp binface so there's this weird sort of like series of pledges that are going on it's like no
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no we're all for this we're all for this we're all for camp binface we're all for the odyssey
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we're all for it it's like okay but all of these things are shit sorry for swearing like all of
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these things are they're not funny in any way and here's another thing that's just not funny
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uh a parody article about the online right taking a pop at the anons who are not happy
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they wouldn't get it there's no audience no exactly because i mean it's it's just the whole
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thing is like this you know caricature of the online and non's complaining about rupert low
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and it's like okay that's really niche like really really niche but also is this not like
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debauching the spectators brand somewhat yeah there seems to be a blind spot in the sort of
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reform or reform adjacent kind of world when it comes to attacking restore how niche it is how
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silly it makes them look how nasty it comes across it's just complete l for them every time they do
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it probably a bit of an l when they allow bonnie blue to publish a pro nigel farage piece as well
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that was yeah i covered that on here that was terrible i don't know why people dignify her
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because like it's she obviously doesn't it's literally just how can i get in the news cycle
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this week and we're promoting just you know the complete decadence of britain with her there must
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have been a story about rape gangs yeah probably it's like those bizarre telegraph pieces you see
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all the time about like i left my husband and now i'm in a triad and i'm free freer than ever
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and it's like you're like are you a 90s tabloid it's really weird there's this weird debauchery
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in the center-right publications i don't understand yeah what he says behind a lot of it
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but it's weirdly absent in the sort of center-left ones like the guardian and the independent are
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actually kind of prudish not even really in the new statesman is it no they're kind of prudish
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whereas the telegraph the spectator they'll happily platform bonnie blue they'll happily
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put these sort of trivial nonsense they'll happily platform camp bimface so what what are you doing
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like what is wrong with you all but anyway so let's let's go to clacton uh apparently the british
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public love camp bimface according to a poll but the thing is this isn't a poll in clacton right
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so this is just one in three british adults would prefer camp bimface to it what are we doing here
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folks like this is completely unserious like so you're running a serious campaign in clacton i
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understand yeah i think i might be the only person doing that and honestly that's why i got you off
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oh thank you but so from my experience the only thing i've heard of count bin facing clacton
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was uh so so on tuesday we had to go and we had to get our nomination papers signed by locals who
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said we have the democratic democratic right to stand and one of our fellows was just standing
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in the middle of clacton on sea handing out leaflets and one person out of probably over
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100 people mentioned count bin face it's like completely astroturf just completely artificially
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boosted by the media no one's taking him seriously and people say oh well you know what if like the
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you know what 56 percent of people who didn't vote for farage vote for him conservative voters
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aren't going to just start voting for count bin face right and the only person i found who was a
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Labour voter in Clacton was like oh you know I vote Labour on principle and you know that's what
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my dad voted for even though he agreed for me that we need re-migration you know still vote
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for Labour I suppose I didn't quite win that one but yeah but the honest word on the ground from
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my experience which has been in Jaywick which will be more radical right is Farage has completely
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tanked his support I think a lot of people will begrudgingly vote for him still but there is
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certainly an open bit of ground here and I can say this as Restore won't be able to get their
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nomination papers within the next two hours sorted right well they're not they're not
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fitting candidates specifically i think that i think they missed a trick here really yeah i've
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i think restore could have made big ground with the amount of manpower that they've got in restore
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you know it's a probably you know a thousand times more than my part maybe not as bad um but
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yeah restore could have easily dominated collecting i think and probably got a seriously good result
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that's interesting because i i understand uh that the thinking in restore is well farage is basically
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just um pulling a frivolous stunt to try and distract from the five million pound investigation
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and therefore dignifying it actually is a loss to actually engage in it is to dignify it um but
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you could also punish it and but also because i mean from the outside yeah it's nigel farage's
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constituency in clacton they're you know they're voting ukip they're going to vote for us so it
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looked like a wasted opportunity uh it would look like a waste of resources not a wasted opportunity
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sorry um but your your experience is Nigel Farage is not as popular there as he seems
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yeah so the people of uh Jaywick specifically what they told me is that the only time I've
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ever seen him there is for a photo op and obviously Jaywick is the most deprived town
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in all of Britain and you know more so Persil's Farage it's in his constituency and they all
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voted for Farage all of them and they all feel immensely betrayed by him because they saw him
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as the man who was going to be kicking out the immigrants of course one-in-one out policy isn't
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going to quite do that um yeah fundamentally they've been betrayed and the people in clacton
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you know they're not falling for the sort of populist rhetoric of oh this is me this is the
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establishment i'll let the people decide so that way when he inevitably gets found guilty and then
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he has to do another by-election oh oh look at what the establishment's done to me now as if he
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isn't the establishment himself but yeah the the reform support maybe people still support the
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party they'll begrudgingly vote for him but they are now primed to move away from farage and from
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my experience as well they are certainly on the immigration issue they are far more right-wing
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than Farage is when I was doing my nomination my mum's more right-wing than Farage is on the
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immigration issue it's a low bar but they're closer to my party than reform I would openly
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speak to these people about remigration and demographic change and they were saying things
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that I wouldn't even say they are pretty primed for it in Clacton so perhaps if there was a place
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where an ashes party or a party which sort of on the fence like restore I think there's serious
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ground to be made there if people put in the effort but it has to be dedicated you can't just
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you know turn up and have a paper um candidate which i suppose i am to some degree right if a
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party like restore uses their resources get their people active in clacton i reckon they could easily
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take over to j wick council i reckon they could take over numerous places and once they've got
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that um credence i would say what's the word i'm trying to find it something credibility credibility
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people i think people go for them i think they've got a serious chance at unseating forage at the
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general election or perhaps next one after that's interesting okay well that's interesting that
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farage has managed to step on this break then because obviously this doesn't get him out of
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any trouble it was a mistake from farage it was a strange error and then but then on top of it
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this unedifying spectacle of all the parties going about bin face as you say and they're really
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they're really reveling in just the decline of democracy it's like yeah this is not good this
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doesn't look good so i think it's they say well it's it's a farage uh circus so we don't be
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involved but i think they all come out pretty terribly in it and i said they have they but
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the thing is that restore began that sort of narrative which was actually quite a strong
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narrative farage is going to turn this into a circus and if his only like main opposition is
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count binface yeah it does look silly and all they had to do was nothing right all they had to do was
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literally nothing they didn't have to platform count binface they didn't have to all come out
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and then endorse count binface because then it would have been nigel farage not against the
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establishment and looking like a clown but they're like okay no we're for the clown actually so that
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is an establishment candidate it's incredibly degrading as well you know you're saying to the
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people in clacton you know some of the but i mean across the constituency some brits are the most
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proud conditions in the country we think your struggles are a joke you know we don't care about
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we're gonna tell you to vote with some sniveling leftist london set comedian who wouldn't even spit
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on clacton yeah yeah genuinely the sort of person who hates the people of clacton yeah he looks at
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as white working class english left behind well go turn your nose up he looks at him as scum yeah
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that's why he writes for have i got these for you yeah and he wrote for was it uh john oliver as
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well which is just i mean anyone who writes for john oliver is just the worst so anyway you've
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got this this general kind of um pathetic frivolity in the political class at the moment
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and it's because it just looks like democracy is just completely stitched up in this country
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like you've seen the transition from starmer to um burnham yeah and it's just crazy like lord
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sadiq khan man oh yeah oh oh sorry i forgot this one uh the guy who's taking part in the clackton
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by-election dressed as a fox is like oh i'm pulling out because it's got too silly it's like
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yeah i'm sure you're the judge mate but uh anyway lord sadiq khan they only made him a sir sadiq khan
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last year i know and uh june sarpong who in my world is like a pop tv presenter now gets a peerage
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it's it's insanity she's been employed for by the government to work like three days a week
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on quarter of a million pounds on diversity nonsense yeah yeah it's i know and now she's
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being made a dane this is so perfect for labor though isn't it especially not the new burnham
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labor the this the mediocrity fembot karen rain you know what i mean the dead glassy eyes of
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Bridget Philipson, the glassy doll eyes of the banality of evil.
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Natalie Fleet, appalling, posted the other day about Anne Whittacombe.
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Just putting, like, implacable enemies of the British public
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Starmer came in and was like, I'm going to abolish the House of Lords.
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I can't imagine a greater humiliation if you were a British person, right?
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But then the next one, he's giving Chris Wormtongue a bloody peerage.
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He's the guy who forced, he was the chief of the civil service.
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He's one of the many people Starmer threw under the bus.
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Like, he was linked to the scandal surrounding Mandelson and Jeffrey Epstein.
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Probably like Starmer saying, sorry, please don't do anything to me.
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Because he's probably, because Ollie Robbins is going to sue, isn't he?
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london yeah muslim muslim taxi drivers hates that he can't the ones i've spoken to he's i don't know
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who the hell's voting for him to be honest of course i imagine you know obviously you les is
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done them no favors yeah yeah exactly yeah who's happy with you les um anyways yeah so this a
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series of really preposterous things right literally the guy involved in the mandelton
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scandal who is one of the core people that starmer had to throw under the bus to preserve himself for
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just a couple of weeks more right he's getting a peerage um obviously june sapong has just been
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sat around just like a vampire a diversity vampire sucking quarter of a million pounds
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out the British taxpayer for like two days a week work because she's black it's like oh right okay
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glad she's been made a lord but as you see people say what's going on right the next thing is I love
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this the back patters club like the the coalition of the willing so Keir Starmer um uh what's the
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dude in France I can't remember his name Macron yeah uh and a series of others pack themselves
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on the back and so zelinski has uh given starmer a ukrainian order of freedom oh that means so
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much to me the ukrainians order of freedom ukraine was created as a country in 1953
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like it's not like this is some sort of ancient title of nobility that has been created honestly
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it's pathetic they just love each other do you see because he gives loads of money see his last
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pmqs it was just how and i gave i gave him a hug and i said to nobody leaves alone because
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it was a starmer basically secretly hates trump and he has been humiliated by trump he finally in
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his last pmqs did a long rant about how trump had kicked out zelensky but i hugged him because
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that's not what we do in britain it was so he just loves him but it's hilarious i hugged him
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and gave him 500 billion and he gave me a medal this is backpatter i'll treasure it forever he
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actually will treasure it he will yeah and it's more than like his family but again it's like
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Macron had him over and gave him a big pat on the back.
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And everyone hates Keir Starmer, and everyone hates Sadiq Khan.
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they get to put themselves in the House of Lords.
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Like, you know, Zelensky isn't popular in Ukraine anymore, right?
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Pakistan was like, we're not taking him back.
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But weren't they trying to make some sort of deal
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where it was like oh you have to like we'll do like a prisoner trade or something about that
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you also have to give us back someone we want it was something very strange like that it seemed
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entirely evil yeah quite possibly but they it's like with the money with france it's like okay
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we've given quarter of a billion france to stop the boats well if the boat stopped no
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well then what are we doing you know like what are we doing we just need to start using what
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power we do have to essentially take these countries hostage and say oh okay oh you don't
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want to take back this grooming gang leader yeah remittances 100 tax 100 and when we're in power
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that'll be going from 99 to 100 so we'll just really nickel and dime yeah literally no visas
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no nothing you don't even get to visit this country no remittances and possibly a couple
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of gunships do we have any gunships left pakistan has coastal waters for christ's sake anyway the
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next stupid thing again just ridiculous nonsense is the courts are completely out of control in
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this country right so the latest the latest thing is the british people are no longer allowed to
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call americans yanks because a court ruling has made this racial harassment i didn't even see this
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that's part of our culture what if i want to racially harass the yanks i called the yankee
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on twitter just recently i didn't know it's not a crime but and so here we are with being a total
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yank but what this is emblematic of is the top-down control of the language that we have in this
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country the use of language i mean there was a thing a few years ago where you you're not allowed
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to be uh you're not allowed to call the welsh sheep shaggers because that was racial harassment
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now it's not the one i'd lead with because i'm from cumbria so i wouldn't i wouldn't open with
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it because it could be used back on me so easily but of course it should be allowed we can't call
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the french frogs and the germans yeah there's no end to it but the point is this is this is the
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current situation that we're in where like really trivial banter is being policed by the status
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quo and it's like oh great that's great so it's the kind of thing starman likes to list in his
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achievements like here's all the things it's like we increased workers like it's like you made loads
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of stupid laws and banned loads of things yeah and you made it harder to employ people but it's
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because it's hard to actually do anything they list all these made-up things 17 year olds can't
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scroll on tiktok right midnight right it's like there's an achievement it's like you haven't done
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anything what if the 17 year old works nights sorry probably doing him a favor tibia so you
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know sure that in tiktok you know not the worst you know it's only destroying the minds of the
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younger generation or any social media though you know it's like you can't go on facebook and
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message your mum at 1201 you know if you're like mum i need you to pick me up from work you know
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you can't do that and that argument works if there's any standards in the culture do you know
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i mean if there's any indication that labor actually want to preserve you know the modesty
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and the integrity of anyone but it's just constant slop fed it as a whole time but but now young
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people can't go on so in an ideal world right obviously we know social media tiktok reels
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it's all been engineered millions tens of millions has been have been invested into making this as
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addictive as possible with the consequence being attention uh attention spans being absolutely
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eradicated so if it was like you know a nice wholesome government we trusted saying all right
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you know maybe it's time to put a limit of it perhaps that would be trusted but also what is
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tiktok it's uh and a lot of short-form content especially instagram it's a nexus of right-wing
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propaganda it's a nexus of our garfa edits and you know it might be small it might seem a little
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bit immature but it does have an effect and they were clearly intimidated by if they're going to
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ban it yeah it's the people telling us that you can decide what gender you are and you can vote
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but you can't go on social media it's like you don't care about children's welfare because you
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want to mutilate them with puberty block we will send you to the front line in ukraines yeah
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he's got two hope not hate hires he does as uh conor tomlinson points out uh the former director
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of hope not hate is a political director of political strategy in 10 downing street and
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allison phillips the current board member of hope not hate as his director of transition
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amazing we have a hope not hate occupied government at this point i mean that's absolutely
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terrifying because of course hope not hate exists to you know same in line with searchlight right
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nationalists, that's a small sliver of the people
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Nigel Farage and all the reformed people have been in there
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So it's just like everything to the right of Karl Marx
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I know someone who actually had gone to one of their conferences
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And he just made some innocuous comment just to the effect of,
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well, what if we actually can't house all these people?
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And it was real like, you know, walking to the saloon moment.
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yeah but they literally do generally think farage is fascist it's not even propaganda too it's not
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exaggeration these people are mentally ill i agree i think those people these people are mentally ill
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but it's got to the point now where it's like right okay so we've we've got this left-wing
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hope not hate occupied government we are in a position where the democratic process itself
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is basically something that nobody really respects right andy burnham is claiming this
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giant mandate on 25 000 votes in makerfield uh sorry to tell you i don't give a i'm not as well
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i don't care what people in makerfield vote for i think they might be wrong in fact to vote for
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annie burnham but nobody seems to care and when nigel ferrari's like okay i'm going to call this
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by-election okay everyone treats it like it's a giant joke and it's like right yeah i think it
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was william clusam was saying to me they just they had a chance to depose a very unpopular prime
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minister and they took it so you were suddenly offered this unique opportunity if you're in
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makerfield to get rid of the hated starmer minus 42 approval rating doesn't really mean anything
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for the rest of the country it's sort of it was a one-off freak event yeah it doesn't mean burnham
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has any kind of mandate he doesn't he won't be accepted by the people in the same way that
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gordon brown wasn't and rishi student that wasn't and it's almost certain that they selected
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makefield because they had done the analysis and knew that'd be the place where he'd win
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yeah he was he was never going to lose there as far as they were concerned i mean it's always
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voted labor but now he's he's going to bring in a proportional representation he's going to bring
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in a bunch of communists to be part of his team and it's just like right okay is this what anyone
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voted for and the answer is of course no but they don't care as far as they're concerned they've got
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the system wrapped up and therefore they can treat you like clowns in clangton they can they can just
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do whatever they want and needing democratic legitimacy is becoming something of past
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generations right they don't seem to care uh and the final thing um was that uh hope not hate for
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some reason removed their article on Ann Whittakam. Why'd they do that, do you reckon? A long history
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of homophobic and sexist remarks. Yeah, I was going to post about this. The fact that Ann Whittakam
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murdered Hope Not Hate post about her. Burnham hires people from Hope Not Hate. It's like,
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that's a very uncomfortable set of facts. Yeah. He's on the side, he's hiring people who are part
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of this radical organization that tries to, what, use stochastic terrorism? Or would you say...
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And again, the taking down of the Ann Widdicombe article
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Burnham would always sort of like, oh, I'm going to be the prime minister for everyone, not just the North and blah, blah.
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It's like, you don't mean anyone very, very slightly to the right.
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You mean your little coalition, bin face, Gary Lineker with your cosy interview, hope not hate.
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You're going to do exactly what the last several people have done.
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You're going to do it worse and just cater to this little, what, this little coterie of leftist nutters, basically,
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who sort of pose as centrist as, but are actually quite radical.
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someone like Gary Lineker, the sort of weirdly radical, the radicalised centrist dad, really.
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Listen to Lineker on things like Gaza, and he just sounds insane.
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The Labour Party are trying to do, I think, a lot of major plays with this kind of premiership they have, right?
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They're going for proportional representation because they want to try to retain their power.
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So if they first pass the post, it's still very likely that reform would sweep.
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And if reform sweep, they'll possibly, maybe, do a little bit of the changes that would be necessary.
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Even if they don't sweep, they'll still do better than the Labour Party.
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And they'll probably have enough support if there are, you know,
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They would probably be at least voting in favour with a lot of what reform would do,
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But by going towards proportional representation,
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it's going to completely block out any sort of right-wing party.
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Even probably reform, like maybe they could do coalitions with the Tories,
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but Restore will basically be with Sona non grata.
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The advantage of proportional representation is
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i think we will get more right-wing mps right as an actual right-wing mps um but there will never
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be enough to form a coalition as you say uh and so okay we might have a couple of loud voices in
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parliament um but we'll never get an actual government that can do anything whereas on the
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first part of the post i think it's completely possible that we get some kind even if it's
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nigel farage as milk toasters everyone thinks he is uh that would still be an advantage that would
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be a step up of having andy burnham or kirsten or whatever right so basically we're screwed
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if he does that yeah he claimed he wasn't going to do it didn't he before the next election
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but of course that's yeah no that means nothing the same for years he's completely committed to
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it yeah so it's just you know and now he's the prime minister he's not going to do it oh okay
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you know it completely rejigs a lot of political strategy and campaigning as well because if it
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is just going to be a case of um you know however well known you are right that's how many votes
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you get it's going to do well for obviously you know parties like restore where rupert lowe is
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incredibly well known and he certainly would get around possibly about nine percent that's going
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to be a lot of mps but you're going to get a similar situation as to what you have in germany
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where i think the afd is the biggest party in parliament it'll probably grow but they cannot
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form a government because no one will work with them and all the other parties you know from
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communist conservatives have said yeah we'll form a rainbow coalition which in a way does play into
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the afd's hands because it now just means whenever something goes wrong it's never their fault and
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that's why they're still continuing to grow and gain power i know you're right i mean that's a
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random name is sent in a super chat saying what does democratic legitimacy even mean at this point
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as our nation's been so diluted the democracy genuinely means nothing what is the demos
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uh that great question i'm not going to be able to answer here obviously for the time
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but um but this but the thing is the way they're acting kind of reveals all of this right as in
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they're just they're just cavalier about it they don't care like they they they feel that they're
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in a position where they can just openly flaunt their lack of interest in what the people of
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clackton actually think for example they're gonna be totally disrespectful to an entire constituency
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and say not a problem uh and just swan off you know endorsing the bin candidate it's just like
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i don't know there's something about what's happening at the moment that just feels like
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a transitional phase to a full-on public meltdown to me like i i mean i i saw like i think it was
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liz truff said look andy burnham is going to cause an economic crisis i think that's obviously true
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right andy burnham clearly is because he's come out and give this speech oh we're going to
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nationalize everything we're going to pay for this pay for that it's like we haven't got any money
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andy we're fucking broke uh so i and i think he doesn't really understand how things work
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so i think i think we're screwed basically is uh in the short term but on the plus side i'm
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something of an accelerationist so let's just push through this and get to the end anyway uh
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russian says uh if england loses its clinic because of not enough diversity which is true
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um england aren't playing for the glory of england these days they're playing to improve
01:25:25.840
their league transfer fees for next season what do you make of that um i think that's that that's
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something what the lionesses were saying you know we've got the english balloons they think they're
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playing for the glory of england yeah i mean there's something in that the idea the sort of
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the link between the way the world cup looks now and the globalized premier league and yeah i mean
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yeah and there's a focus on club football meaning more than the international it depends what you
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mean though the individual players certainly do care and do want to win for england so i don't
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know i hate to be so centrist today uh between duolipo being intellectual and emily ratajkowski
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This is the girl who was in the Blurred Lines video
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I'm quite literally watching this happen in real time,
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It's an awful show that comedians I used to know do.
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Out Blairite commie traitor, in commie Blairite traitor.
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Andy Burnham, I don't think, is actually a Blairite.
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I think he is just happy to go along with basically whatever it is
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I tried to make a plus today, didn't he, in the speech.
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He said, you know, there's that joke about Burnham walks into a bar
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and he tried to change it to, yeah, it's because I just welcome all views in the party.
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It's not because I'm a scheming opportunist who doesn't have any real opinions.
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But, like, I genuinely think we'll miss Starmer
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because starmer cared about the integrity of the system and i think that burnham generally is that
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idealistic things were better in the 70s and it's like yeah but they weren't they were absolutely
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atrocious like anyone who knows anything like my dad is a lifelong conservative voter was until
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recently he's got more right wing but like he for like most of his adult life he's a lifelong
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conservative voter because he remembers rubbish piling up in the streets and the three-day work
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week and the power going off intermittently when he was a kid or when he was young um so he's like
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no i'm never voting for labor because that's what labor produced and annie burnham's like oh yeah
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the good old days it's like okay okay great we're bringing that back are we well if you want
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accelerations and that's what you want isn't it you want the power to go out like south africa and
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that will really wake people up because people really like their power in this country they're
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not used to i can't go on the internet between four and eight you know what i mean that that
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will shake people up you'd hope but who knows i'm not an accelerations because i don't believe in
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these things i think it was um i think it's murray rothbard quoted via paul gottfried who said
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worse is worse that's what i believe i don't think acceleration is a very dangerous game it's true but
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i i honestly i've got to the point now where i think a lot of people really need to have a taste
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of what they're asking for right like there's there's no point people being like oh yeah well
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i'm voting for labor because i'm for good things okay let's see how good those things yes but the
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assumption is that that does something that spurs a counterweight or counteraction that can even do
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anything and if we're just saying the system stitched up in various ways maybe i just want
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to suffer yeah but you'll suffer as well so it's like homer when he says flanders also has to wear
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the dress he's like you'd have to do it too he's like yeah so and they both do it because homer's
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like wants him to suffer but then he has to wear it as well i don't know if you've ever seen that
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one but i haven't seen that one but that's fine i do uh firmly believe that people do need to see
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the problems firsthand to wake up to them so i mean if you you know you can think back you know
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50 years for example right where were places where were parties like the national front
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popular it was mainly in the east end of london leicester birmingham they never had any electoral
01:30:04.480
victories but we did quite well in fact actually a split event the national party immediately won
01:30:09.160
two councillors uh in blackburn in 1976 there you go but in in the spaces where there were real
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problems with exactly because these areas were you know completely flooded with uh people from
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south asian backgrounds right and you can also look at where did the bmp have their first electoral
01:30:24.820
victory tower hamlets that doesn't surprise people where did they have the biggest strengths
01:30:29.580
um burnley they were the main opposition in burnley they won something ridiculous like 13
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council elections in barking dagenham on a single night and the labor councils were literally in
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tears over it well of course you know when the bmp was in its heyday you'd only find out about
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the sort of thing if you went to bmp.org it's not like now where we've got elon's obviously bought
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x and you go on x one day and what do you see a migrant's trying to decapitate someone
01:30:54.620
you're finding out about the next killing or the next league rigby imitation you'd only find out
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about if you lived in the local area exactly anyway um right so we are out of time uh kai
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where can people go to find more from you so people can come and find me at kai stevens yt
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and i'm a member and i'm a candidate for the british democrats in the clacton by-election
01:31:12.620
we are a community politics nationalist party explicitly nationalist and yeah if you're perhaps
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thinking restore may be a little bit too soft maybe you can look to us but no um outside of
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yeah it's everything thank you thanks for joining us and we'll see you in half an hour for lads
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