The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1464

00:00:00.000 Hi folks, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday the 17th of July 2026.

00:00:04.640 I'm joined by Nick Dixon and Kai Stephens of the British Democrats.

00:00:08.600 You're their Clacton candidate, are you not?

00:00:10.900 Yes, that's absolutely correct.

00:00:11.940 I'm the candidate for the British Democrats in the Clacton by-election.

00:00:15.740 I'm just going to be honest, I've never actually heard of the British Democrats.

00:00:18.940 Would you like me to introduce them?

00:00:20.040 Yeah, yeah, go on, tell me something about them.

00:00:21.800 Are they a re-migration party?

00:00:23.300 They are indeed a re-migration party.

00:00:25.800 We are currently working on our re-migration policy.

00:00:28.560 We've been a little bit busy with local elections, then obviously the Clacton opportunity came up,

00:00:32.900 so our people who arrived at have been very busy with all other parts of the party.

00:00:37.000 The British Democrats is a party that was formed in the early 2010s, whilst the BNP was collapsing,

00:00:43.060 a group of the members, I think it was primarily Adrian Davies, a friend of Jonathan Bowles and

00:00:48.100 people who know the law around him, went to form this party. However, it wasn't taken up properly

00:00:53.980 as an institution until around about 2021 and I personally joined it at the start of this year in

00:01:00.700 January after I was sort of a little bit politically homeless so I was someone who was a founding

00:01:06.200 member of the Homeland Party and things felt very bleak after the Homeland Party died and I found

00:01:12.220 in them that there were people with great campaigning knowledge people who had actually

00:01:15.840 been MEPs people have been councillors so if there was any group of people who had wisdom that needed

00:01:20.300 to be passed down to the next generation especially for nationalists it would certainly be them

00:01:24.620 and so far yeah the uh the party like i say mainly focuses on community politics

00:01:29.260 and presenting nationalism in a good strong light okay uh so today we're going to be talking about

00:01:35.660 uh the football you're a football guy uh a little bit on and off when it gets a little bit close to

00:01:40.360 the um you know semi-files i start taking a little bit more of an interest you know i know a lot of

00:01:44.960 people don't necessarily like football for the obvious reasons but it is nice to see an england

00:01:48.840 flag and people being patriotic and happy i'm not a football guy but i am interested in diversity

00:01:53.420 uh then we're going to be talking about duolipa well i'm talking about banned books and the

00:01:58.300 basically the woke collapse of literature and publishing and so yeah it sounds weird to be

00:02:03.180 talking about duolipa's banned books but it is actually interesting and luckily i know loads

00:02:06.660 about football as well so i'm the uh that's good yeah that's lucky uh it's not going to come up

00:02:11.280 and then we're going to be talking about the um the the weird and slow motion embarrassing

00:02:17.680 meltdown of british politics which has uh accumulated in the crowning of andy burnham

00:02:22.600 uh it's going to begin in clacton though so it will be relevant i promise uh but it'll uh expand

00:02:26.940 to the rest of the country uh you're looking forward to going bankrupt because i think that's

00:02:30.180 going to happen um anyway right let's let's begin uh diversity is our strength is something we are

00:02:36.180 told over and over and over particularly when it comes to the football we are told that a lot don't

00:02:40.880 we nick yes and has it been our strength well that's a big question it's a big question i mean

00:02:47.480 i know what you're going to get at which is that they keep saying look how diverse team is amazing

00:02:52.380 and then if it loses you have to then say well then is that diversity's fault yes yeah i knew

00:02:57.440 that was where you were going that's because that's very obvious i've got thoughts on this

00:03:01.160 but i'll let you develop it and then i'll appreciate that all right well before we begin

00:03:05.680 islander 6 is on sale so go to shop.loses.com and get your copy today the theme of this island

00:03:11.760 is what needs to be done and it's excellent my article in there is particularly good i have to

00:03:17.140 say uh but that's because i wrote it and i think i probably should say that anyway let's let's begin

00:03:22.200 so um england lost uh i'm not a football guy so i was frankly relieved to not have to hear about

00:03:27.560 the football all the time but i am sad for everyone else who's sad that england lost

00:03:31.100 uh they lost to the argentinians who played really dirty i hear in the first half yeah it 0.87

00:03:36.840 was niggly nasty they're always like that it was expected yeah they're the argentinians i said 0.89

00:03:41.060 before the game they're going to cheat more than tony soprano and i was correct yeah i mean what 0.97

00:03:45.360 did anyone expect ultimately they were also just better because the problem is england always come

00:03:49.520 up see i am a football person i've been watching it since 1990 when we got to the semi-final against

00:03:54.760 west germany 1990 me and my brother watching it as kids it was such a magical thing and it's become

00:03:59.280 less magical as time's gone on but we always the problem is with england we're always up against

00:04:04.120 basically germany brazil argentina france spain sometimes portugal italy and only one or two of

00:04:11.520 have to be any good so at the moment brazil germany and italy are rubbish but argentina france

00:04:16.780 and spain are really good so we tend to get to that kind of level just below the top tier and

00:04:21.320 that's just where we are and we just tend to hover at that level we got to the final of the euros

00:04:24.900 we get to the semi-final of the world cup we haven't won it's in 66 and we just when it's in

00:04:29.440 england we have a chance that's why we got to the final in euros but we just the reality is

00:04:33.140 i predicted this because we just hover below that level at all times not very political that's just

00:04:38.640 pure sporting context for you i'll take your word for that okay because all i can hear is them

00:04:44.740 constantly going on about how we need more diversity i i'm okay fair enough i'm a fair-minded

00:04:49.980 man if the diversity is going to pay dividends then i can hear the argument for it um but it

00:04:55.720 doesn't seem to be paying dividends i mean like this is the argentinian team which if i can get

00:05:00.420 it down there is pretty homogenous they're all argentinian probably all criminal records um

00:05:07.420 definitely don't own the falkland islands but they're all as you'd expect lucky base starmer

00:05:13.880 slapped them down on that one yeah he did uh here's the england team which has a lot more diversity in

00:05:18.620 it and so obviously we've had a lot of people saying things like well and this this this chap

00:05:26.140 is some um the general secretary of the national education union the largest education union in

00:05:33.040 europe so you can imagine how unbelievably woke that union is that's the teachers union

00:05:37.080 if england beat argentina tomorrow and reach the world cup final remember it will be multi-racial

00:05:42.940 england that has won england in all its diversity honestly i feel like i'm being lectured to by like

00:05:47.340 anti-racist hitler right not the narrow exclusionary vision of england the farage

00:05:52.140 lowe robinson and others trying to create okay you know that is objectionable because they're

00:05:56.860 making it about that and then if you reply in kind then they don't like it but they're the

00:06:01.520 ones that have made that politicized and about the ethnic makeup yeah see i think see you might

00:06:06.540 not like this but leo did a piece on here which was quite good about how every team now sort of

00:06:10.900 is the same i think that is a shame because we've lost the natural diversity of the world which is

00:06:14.880 every team looks like what you associate with that country and that's not argentina all about

00:06:19.060 no i know well yeah there's a couple of exceptions norway scott i mean look at them i literally feel

00:06:23.640 like every single one of them is about to start a fight with me that's what they like and steal my

00:06:27.880 wallet yeah and in Messi's 39 he's still gonna do that um but can I just say the point you won't

00:06:33.040 like which is it can be a little bit crankish to sort of when everyone's behind the football it's

00:06:38.620 kind of like a losing issue to be going on about the ethnic makeup of the team when everyone's

00:06:43.360 into the football you see what I mean that's why I waited until we lost points to be scored there

00:06:47.540 at all and it's a it's kind of a dreaded fear of mine if England do win the Euros or if they do win

00:06:53.460 the world cup that it will always be used as a propaganda piece against us so me amongst my

00:06:58.780 friends we joke about that that would be multiculturalism saved basically yeah it was

00:07:03.700 always a uh i can't remember who it was made of a sticker it might have been sam melia but he

00:07:08.000 produced one for the hundred handers which said something to the effect of um 1066 um normal

00:07:13.720 invasion of england 1966 england wins the world cup you know 2066 britain's to be a britain's to

00:07:19.760 be a white minority yeah and uh yeah unfortunately that may be thwarted as a bit of propaganda if

00:07:24.980 they do win of course during the euros as well when it got to the penalties they intentionally

00:07:29.940 had their free african players like that we'll get to that in a minute but the point is you are

00:07:34.980 you are right nick like on on a sporting level i don't know anything about football and you are

00:07:39.600 right that you know you can't make this point while england is still in the cup in the cup

00:07:43.220 but now that we've lost okay i'm going to make this point because they were bloody making this 0.96

00:07:47.000 point and i want to address this point on the merits because england has a white minority team

00:07:51.580 as we see and it didn't win and his explicit explicit premise is well if it wins then

00:07:59.560 multi-racial england will won well we can all complete this syllogism england didn't win

00:08:03.860 therefore multi-racial england did not win therefore diversity is not our strength and

00:08:09.300 this is something that they've been as you said hammering for a number of years i mean you remember

00:08:13.440 the gareth southgate loss in 2024 where he had to resign after it because as you were saying he 0.99

00:08:18.660 lined up a bunch of like young ethnic minority men that he seems to have chosen on the grounds 0.86

00:08:23.760 that they were ethnic minorities and then they screwed up the penalties and everyone was like

00:08:27.880 oh well that's terrible but then what were they saying afterwards oh actually diversity is more 0.97

00:08:34.700 important than football but that's literally what their bloody narrative was afterwards

00:08:38.880 breaking down barriers that no other england manager has ever managed gareth southgate has

00:08:44.600 created an inclusive caring team ethos okay that's horrible yeah i mean yes even true i don't know

00:08:50.520 i don't know what that even means i mean it sounds pretty gay but like yeah yeah yeah i mean they yes

00:08:54.820 they they start it they politicize it and they go on constantly about women's football which

00:08:58.140 you're legally obliged to like so yeah they do sort of put it on the table yeah southgate of

00:09:03.340 course has his critics particularly among the anti-woke warriors who have never forgiven him

00:09:07.520 supporting players taking the knee and support black lives matter and saying white people have

00:09:12.180 to speak up about racism as well is that okay but get retired early yeah southgate was disgustingly

00:09:16.780 woke one thing about tuchel although it looks from the last game that he may be not quite the

00:09:20.380 man because he he bottled it at the end and went defensive but he is apolitical so they've tried

00:09:26.060 to drag him into things like ukraine and all this southgate um tuchel current manager he just said

00:09:31.320 guy i'm a i'm a coach i'm not getting into you know where southgate was just mr woke so what

00:09:36.200 language was he saying in that was a bavarian german accent right okay yeah that's interesting

00:09:41.700 interesting it was close wasn't it no no i'm not i'm not criticizing your accent i'm criticizing

00:09:46.560 the state of british football oh the fact we have a german manager yeah german manager

00:09:50.100 minority white team can't win anything interesting it's i blame the germans what can i say hey hey 0.54

00:09:56.520 tell you about my genes earlier well i mean we mess that we brought a german manager because 0.68

00:10:01.300 he's going to be elite and then he messes up and does the same that we always do which is what

00:10:04.240 let go defensive fail to keep the ball in the big moments anyway sorry carl anyway so as you can see

00:10:10.180 like you know you might you might be like well why are you making it political why are you making it

00:10:13.960 about race it's like i'm not they're making it about race they have explicitly made this about

00:10:18.400 race to shove it in our face over and over and over saying no no no diversity is our strength

00:10:24.000 if we win it's multi-racial england that wins okay it didn't work with gareth southgate but still

00:10:28.920 the football wasn't important the diversity was important i mean like the the carrying

00:10:33.760 inclusive england team is a greater victory than any on the pitch it's like well i mean i'm glad

00:10:38.780 i'm not a football fan right because if this were the kind of narrative that was surrounding the

00:10:43.460 game for me i'd be pissed off about it it's infuriating i basically carry on watching it

00:10:47.580 just so i've got something to talk to my family about because var is awful on the technical level

00:10:52.440 and that's sort of somehow tied up with technocracy in general and then the wokeness the kneeling

00:10:57.840 the armbands it is it is appalling yeah and it got particularly during blm it went insane in the

00:11:03.620 premier league it was on every advertising hoarding it was on the graphics on sky and they

00:11:07.480 were particularly promoting this extremist money laundering organization and then they tried to 0.71

00:11:12.620 sort of when it became obvious what a disgusting thing blm was they tried to tone it down and go

00:11:17.340 and this is just a general message about racism it's like why is that the specific branding of

00:11:21.620 that organization there because before they've been like kick give the red car to race or whatever

00:11:25.840 kick it out and all that fairly generic stuff which no one really had a problem with but then 0.53

00:11:29.940 it came to like no this is a marxist organization that wants to destroy the nuclear family like 0.60

00:11:33.440 i'm sorry why is this on the football so it became absurd well because i mean what year was this like 0.87

00:11:39.000 2020 2020 yeah yeah because that was when black lives matter was at its absolute peak and do you 0.57

00:11:44.500 remember that they they started taking the knee and then everyone else stopped taking the knee 1.00

00:11:47.840 and they still carried on taking carried on longer than yeah anyway oh god it's so embarrassing man

00:11:51.540 the amount of booing that would go on as well i believe the tvs had to start sort of like muting

00:11:55.780 the audio in some way yeah yeah luckily that's gone but what we had in america course is the

00:12:00.840 water breaks and this attempt to americanize it with basically four quarters but the great thing

00:12:04.460 was the english fans booed every single water break which is just so great just because it's 0.82

00:12:08.800 soft and stupid and they don't like change and softness anyway so uh you might remember the

00:12:14.940 lionesses in 2025 who actually won the women's 2025 euros now a lot of the time especially on 1.00

00:12:21.560 the right they're like ah women's football's crap who cares it's like yeah okay maybe i don't know 0.96

00:12:26.080 anything about football i don't care how do you feel about women's football it is crap the goals 1.00

00:12:29.540 are far too big they need to make them smaller goals are big the goal well women are much smaller 0.98

00:12:34.820 women's goals are bigger are they no they're the same size the men's but that means that they're 0.99

00:12:38.420 far too big because a woman keepers are massive and the average woman's much smaller than the 0.99

00:12:42.080 average man they're trying to jump around this massive goal they can't do it but if they made 0.99

00:12:45.800 the goal smaller that would be admitting it's a different sport and so you have to pretend that

00:12:49.480 it's amazing and the same it was so funny because i mean i play five aside i went into the pub with

00:12:53.680 my football team and the i it was always a known thing that the goalies were terrible in women's

00:12:57.940 football and then they were talking about the women's football and i said oh yeah but the

00:13:00.620 goalies aren't very good are they and it was like it was like one of those record-stopping moments

00:13:03.900 everyone turned to me and said they've got a lot better nick and i was like sorry and i was like

00:13:07.660 oh we have to pretend they're good now i hadn't got the memo that that was the current thing

00:13:12.640 what i like about that is kind of the real life um example of the comment section being closed

00:13:18.280 isn't it no no no you're not allowed to you know anyway so you know good for the lionesses i didn't

00:13:24.860 care because i'm not a football guy but i did find it very interesting what the uh what the

00:13:30.360 one of the women said afterwards we have that grit we're there we've got english blood in us so

00:13:35.560 we're never we never say die and we just keep going and we did that today

00:13:40.100 that was a weird thing to say right irish blood english heart yeah yeah we've got english blood 0.86

00:13:47.040 in them at least well there yeah exactly there was only like two diverse players on the women's

00:13:52.020 euros 2025 team and these ladies came out yeah we've got english blood in us therefore we won

00:13:58.400 it's like are we we just ignoring this like are we do we need to talk about diversity gareth

00:14:04.780 it's the strange it's the sort of floating context it's kind of like the hijab is a

00:14:11.520 celebrate getting rid of the hijab is a celebration in iran but putting on the hijab is a celebration

00:14:15.560 in the west so it's also context specific hypocrisy so the women's team because women's 0.87

00:14:20.100 football is so anointed it's so progressive they can say anything it's like yeah comes out with

00:14:26.920 blood and soil nationalism because stripped from the insane context we're in now that would

00:14:32.580 in the past that would just been a fairly generic comment meaning yes we have a lion heart spirit

00:14:36.720 yes and that's all it means but now it's like yes in the now you go oh wow it seems like a

00:14:42.620 bizarre political statement well she comes out and basically says we have superior blood to our 0.63

00:14:46.100 pathetic foreign foes it's the genes it's like a trump you know but obviously at the time no you

00:14:54.120 know they're in the full flush of victory so no one can critique and i'm not even saying there's 0.96

00:14:57.980 anything to critique here i just found it really interesting how the very successful women's team

00:15:03.700 whether you like women's football or not are like yeah yeah it's because we we we had english but

00:15:08.100 what she's saying then we've got the same grit we've got the same never say die attitude but

00:15:12.320 it's because they all share the same sort of mindset right is that true about heterogeneous

00:15:18.360 teams well I was going to say one thing you should really be impressed by is that the team is so

00:15:23.280 integrated that they bottled it in the exact same way that England always has they failed to keep

00:15:27.920 possession when when we were ahead in the game which England have never been able to do therefore

00:15:32.100 we went too deep inviting pressure and lost and that we've lost in that way Paul Scholes was

00:15:36.400 saying like that we always did that for England we've been losing like that because we don't have

00:15:39.680 the technicality to hold the ball we've been losing like that for years so the integration

00:15:43.800 it's a success story it's like how do they bottle in the exact same way and i kind of noticed that

00:15:50.160 like spain have a pretty homogenous team too as in all of these people look like they're really

00:15:55.780 lazy and are about to go for a siesta right so interesting how the argentinians and the spain

00:16:00.980 i mean there's there's got to be some bad blood there right because it's not like spain's got

00:16:04.620 great relationships with its ex-colonies since it fought loads of wars of revolutions mock 0.76

00:16:09.760 argentinians they think they've got they have like a sing-song accent and they mock them i agree with

00:16:14.100 the spaniards on this so yeah we argentines are our enemies clearly well so the spaniards but you

00:16:19.940 know but that was settled a long time ago but the point is the two themes in the final again

00:16:24.100 homogenous theme so it's like okay i don't know anything about football i'm not judging anything

00:16:28.240 on the merits but the narrative that has surrounded all of this is diversity is our

00:16:32.560 strength if diversity if the england team wins and diversity wins and actually we lose and then

00:16:37.200 when we did win it was from a basically homogenous squad who were like yeah it was in the blood

00:16:40.760 and it's like look the diversity narrative around the football it's just not working for them right 0.94

00:16:47.780 this is not not a good narrative i don't know if this is something perhaps a little bit sensitive

00:16:51.700 to touch on but i saw an interesting tweet from an african who said something to the effect of

00:16:56.280 we've had some african teams win but now they will start playing poorly because all the players

00:17:01.100 always play selfishly and i've also had the same thing said about the england team as well so

00:17:05.780 is there some sort of like cultural interjection there where perhaps the african players they more

00:17:10.400 want to play for themselves and more looking for glory less team players less cohesive well that

00:17:14.420 i honestly i think that's the question because i'm not saying that you know there's anything

00:17:19.220 wrong with the players or the teams or anything like that or there's any you know i don't know

00:17:23.340 genetics or anything but like is is it the question of diversity meaning a lack of sort of

00:17:28.880 of shed trust right that we see in wider society generally does that also apply to football teams 0.63

00:17:35.540 and i don't know you know but all i'm saying is the diverse teams keep losing i mean it's worse

00:17:40.680 in france than like one in four players were born outside of the bloody country and there's there is

00:17:46.760 an image but it's like mostly africans on the french team anyway i can't find it for now last

00:17:51.680 one um wherever it was but yeah so although it's sorry yeah 21 out of 26 players on france's world

00:17:59.460 cup team are of african descent it's like jesus christ yeah it is different i mean football now

00:18:06.600 is so uniform in general that it's become like the disappointing thing about the world cup is

00:18:11.400 every team looks the same and they all play roughly like the premier league well spain are a bit

00:18:14.800 different but football in general has become much more uniform it used to be a kind of known thing

00:18:19.300 that the African teams

00:18:20.360 commentators would openly say

00:18:21.800 a bit naive there

00:18:23.000 because they didn't defend

00:18:24.120 but they just attacked too much

00:18:25.360 whereas it was known

00:18:25.920 that if it was Poland or something

00:18:26.900 it would be a tight game

00:18:27.800 with headers on crosses

00:18:28.820 and this is kind of

00:18:29.600 still broadly true

00:18:30.540 there are different styles

00:18:31.640 you know

00:18:32.480 a South American team

00:18:33.740 will have a mad keeper

00:18:34.480 that comes way out of its box

00:18:35.500 these things are sort of

00:18:36.240 some degree

00:18:36.800 there is something in them

00:18:37.760 still

00:18:38.580 so yeah there is something

00:18:39.680 that different types of

00:18:40.660 different people play differently

00:18:42.140 that used to be kind of accepted

00:18:43.760 but England and France

00:18:45.000 are going to have a match

00:18:45.700 to see who's the third place

00:18:47.140 yes

00:18:47.480 team

00:18:47.860 so it's like

00:18:48.560 who's the first loser

00:18:49.400 well no second

00:18:49.960 it's always been a bleak

00:18:50.600 it's always been a bleak match

00:18:51.940 that one

00:18:52.180 yeah

00:18:52.520 well yeah exactly

00:18:53.360 what's the bloody point in this

00:18:55.040 but then you get freaks like

00:18:56.860 and that's the Campbell coming up

00:18:57.860 and being like

00:18:58.080 yeah so France had one white player

00:18:59.540 on their football team 1.00

00:19:00.200 I think they should be really proud of that

00:19:01.460 I mean watch it

00:19:02.000 just see

00:19:02.400 it's just abominable

00:19:03.960 how many players did they have

00:19:05.960 the other day

00:19:06.340 in the line up

00:19:07.360 one white player

00:19:08.220 in the starting line up

00:19:10.180 the last game they played

00:19:11.540 that is

00:19:13.480 I look at that

00:19:15.600 and I think

00:19:16.440 France should be really proud of that

00:19:18.760 A lot of people I know in France look at that and think,

00:19:20.900 that's not France, okay?

00:19:23.940 Why would they think that?

00:19:25.400 The host of trigonometry probably agree with him, to be honest.

00:19:28.220 No, no, no, the host of trigonometry are against him on this.

00:19:30.820 Ah, no, I'm only having a laugh.

00:19:32.020 No, no, I know, I know, and don't get me wrong,

00:19:33.780 there's plenty of room to criticise them on,

00:19:35.820 but that's actually not one of them, right?

00:19:37.700 So it's just, sorry, what were you going to say now?

00:19:39.720 No, I was just going to say, it's interesting that Campbell

00:19:41.300 even acknowledges his French friends won't say that,

00:19:43.680 because France is known as, let's say it's fairly sort of nativist, isn't it?

00:19:47.100 it's just known like that they're like you better speak French we're not even going to listen if you

00:19:50.740 speak English they believe in their French culture and food and writers and so on and they sort of

00:19:55.720 somewhat hermetically sealed in that way not completely but they've been less woke than other

00:19:59.640 countries and so it's interesting he just says his French friends say no you know and Daniel

00:20:04.580 Hannan put up that tweet where he got criticized didn't he saying that his French friend had called

00:20:08.120 up and Daniel's like are you watching the Lord Hannan I should say are you watching the uh France

00:20:13.520 versus, was it Ivory Coast?

00:20:15.780 Was it Ivory Coast?

00:20:16.960 Anyway, he said,

00:20:17.540 why would I watch the illegal immigrants

00:20:18.680 versus the illegal immigrants?

00:20:20.340 That's very base for Daniel Allen. 1.00

00:20:21.920 Yeah, we've got a lot of trouble for it.

00:20:23.060 Yeah, I bet.

00:20:24.100 Campbell's acknowledging that is a view

00:20:25.420 even amongst French people.

00:20:27.060 Yeah. 0.98

00:20:27.340 This is where it gets weird.

00:20:28.280 I think there's a legitimate where you go,

00:20:31.060 why is it a great thing, Alistair?

00:20:33.300 You know, as you say,

00:20:34.180 if it's a neutral thing that helps the team,

00:20:36.340 and we're just saying, okay,

00:20:37.240 it's a skills thing.

00:20:38.200 If the team was winning,

00:20:38.940 I'd be like, okay, yeah, fair enough. 1.00

00:20:40.720 But actually, the homogenous teams are winning,

00:20:42.620 and the non-homogeneous teams are losing so i can understand people saying why are you bothered

00:20:47.620 you know it's the world now camel saying it's they should be proud of it is weird well it's

00:20:53.180 not just campbell is it you know it's it's back to this um wherever he was i lost it yeah yeah

00:20:58.940 no it's that guy so yeah back to this guy as well so again for them this is about the validation

00:21:03.980 of the narrative of diversity and multiculturalism and so even in loss they can find the positive

00:21:10.440 that are actually the true success was diversity and inclusion and so like your football teams are

00:21:17.760 losing so their political narrative can succeed and i just wanted to make that very very clear

00:21:23.200 because it's just so like so self-evident and like i said i'm not a football guy but every time the

00:21:28.960 football's on i see them pitching this narrative and then i see the diverse team lose uh but i see

00:21:34.480 the homogenous team win and then say yeah it's because we're all homogenous it's because we're

00:21:38.660 all english that we won and it was just like okay this is i mean am i am i not supposed to notice

00:21:44.580 this am i not supposed to say anything about this i mean it makes me rather sad right perhaps this is

00:21:49.000 a utopian vision in this day and age but i would like to see you know take like a town like

00:21:54.120 sunderland for example where the football team is incredibly important to them yeah by the entire

00:21:58.500 morale of the area is based on how their team does yeah i'd want to see that team you know not

00:22:03.480 doing like a you know international eugenics program to find like the best footballers in

00:22:07.300 the most you know run down favelas i want to see him promoting people in sanderland and i would

00:22:11.220 like to see the same in norwich because it makes sense you'd want your team to represent football

00:22:14.920 is coming from the place that they are playing for it seems like such a fun concept this day and

00:22:19.800 i agree with that as well i'd love to see teams that are local and at the very least sort of

00:22:25.160 generally near that area or something like that yeah i mean because if you're from i've got a

00:22:29.840 lad i went to school with whose son is now uh in the man united squad and so that's that's cool but

00:22:34.620 If you're from the lakes, you're not going to have a team,

00:22:37.060 so that's not too bad.

00:22:38.220 I can accept that kind of radius.

00:22:40.020 Sure.

00:22:40.340 But yeah, it would be much better, wouldn't it,

00:22:42.220 if clubs, if they had players from there,

00:22:44.560 and on the country level, it would be nice,

00:22:46.160 because football used to be about community, as you say.

00:22:49.800 And when it becomes about getting the most expensive,

00:22:53.380 you know, genetically gifted player from the far ends of the world,

00:22:57.060 it is something very different.

00:22:58.700 I just find it quite galling. 0.51

00:23:00.800 Like, everyone's like, okay, yeah, I'm going to cheer for France,

00:23:02.520 I'm going to cheer for England. 1.00

00:23:03.120 and then it's just a bunch of foreigners running around and they're like yeah we're gonna win so 1.00

00:23:07.620 what do you mean we like yeah that can go too far i mean like jude bellingham's grandfather was

00:23:12.220 english and he did you see that clip of him on mastermind he was incredibly good yeah and he's

00:23:17.460 sort of an old school english guy with the mustache the kind of really old school so some

00:23:21.580 people can take it too far and think that you know jude bellingham's not english which is not

00:23:25.180 fair but half of them are like from ghana or wherever and it's just like okay you know like

00:23:31.080 and like the instagram post so it's like oh look they're all of african descent and it's like 0.73

00:23:36.260 okay so why would a french person want to cheer for this french team is one of the most extreme

00:23:41.840 examples definitely yeah i mean i still stormzy being like oh yeah who do you want to win england

00:23:45.500 or ghana he's like well i want ghana to win because we need the points so oh do we need

00:23:50.000 the points do we they were shocked by that when they thought he was going to say england

00:23:52.820 yeah because they literally said oh you said a draw i think he said a draw because i'm both yeah

00:23:56.440 yeah but they like garner needs the points and it's like yeah okay i'm just very tired of like

00:24:01.240 the pretense and it's so obviously about the political narrative and i'm just very tired of

00:24:07.020 like this political narrative being imposed on everything and when it does turn out that

00:24:11.560 diversity wasn't our strength well it's forbidden to say so anyway leave that there how many young

00:24:17.640 people's dreams have been quashed because they wanted to play for a local team and you know

00:24:21.700 it literally international diversity hiring goes on instead it's absurd to me there are many memes

00:24:27.360 that i could make i could quote about that but i'm not going to um scott says why does carl keep

00:24:32.440 uploading his hour-long political chats 30 minutes before the podcast so i'm conflicted on what to

00:24:36.260 watch well if it helps i don't upload them uh that's what we have a team for and i try not to

00:24:42.380 interfere with the way that they schedule things because they know what they're doing um but on

00:24:46.560 the plus side i mean this one's live that one's not what's this one first uh sigil stone says

00:24:51.200 carl it's nice uh if you it's nice if you all right of you to have harry's son on

00:24:57.140 you're and harry's son on you're harry's son no i'm harry and your son oh are you

00:25:03.380 a little hard to read how did that happen i spent a few minutes

00:25:07.500 i choose to believe the base thomas tuchel made the dodgy defensive changes on purpose to

00:25:15.680 preemptively demolish the multicultural weaponization godspeed my bald germanic 0.96

00:25:19.460 brother is that true is he that's that's 4d chess yeah i did it on purpose guys yes and he's also 0.56

00:25:26.480 mentioning the norwood he's a bold norwood advocate to call he doesn't shave it have you seen that our

00:25:31.280 balding subreddit where all the balding guys go on there shave the heads and there's a massive

00:25:36.060 glow up yeah i've seen that really handsome a bit of a sensitive subject for me guys

00:25:40.100 yeah not doing too good for 21 it's been it's been a rough are you only 21

00:25:44.640 Jesus, sorry, man.

00:25:45.200 You've got an egg.

00:25:45.840 No, I didn't.

00:25:47.220 Sorry.

00:25:48.140 Sorry, I share it with pride.

00:25:49.720 It's definitely to hide.

00:25:50.540 Leo can give you a discount

00:25:52.140 if you want to go to Turkey.

00:25:53.480 Yeah, yeah, seriously.

00:25:54.940 He's been offering coupons.

00:25:57.760 Shall we carry on?

00:25:58.680 We can carry on, yeah.

00:25:59.740 All right, well.

00:26:01.660 So, do you want me to promote Island of Six?

00:26:04.640 Yes.

00:26:05.040 It's just there on the screen.

00:26:05.900 Island of Six, everyone, get it.

00:26:07.260 There's a particularly good article

00:26:08.120 from Carl Benjamin.

00:26:09.600 Oh, you're too kind, Nick.

00:26:11.220 I got this from Carl himself.

00:26:12.840 That's how I know it's good.

00:26:13.760 So everyone go and get Islander 6.

00:26:15.260 Very limited edition.

00:26:16.620 There's only about 12 of them, and then they go forever.

00:26:18.900 So get Islander 6. 0.87

00:26:19.820 That is true.

00:26:20.680 There you go.

00:26:21.320 There you go.

00:26:22.700 Okay.

00:26:23.260 Is that good enough?

00:26:23.900 Can we proceed to the segment?

00:26:26.800 Your segment.

00:26:27.900 He's pretending I've got autonomy now.

00:26:29.900 All right.

00:26:30.640 So Dua Lipa, the popular singer, has come up with a list of so-called banned books.

00:26:35.840 You might say, why do we care about this, Nick?

00:26:37.480 Someone's going to have to inform me who Dua Lipa is.

00:26:39.400 He is a popular singer who's very famous.

00:26:41.880 I'm going to look this person.

00:26:42.660 Okay.

00:26:43.760 why is this relevant two reasons one it's the woke destruction of literature so people on this

00:26:50.480 panel are aware that woke destroyed gaming for example other people on the panel are aware that

00:26:55.380 woke destroyed comedy we've all suffered for these things this duolipa person looks like she's about

00:27:00.200 to steal my wallet that was a meme about yeah people say the ancient uh yeah they know the

00:27:06.720 ancient gypsy all right she is she's albanian albanian yeah okay so one of these people is

00:27:11.100 she's definitely stealing my money but only for albania and not for not for anywhere else right 0.99

00:27:15.500 um so it's the woke destruction of literature is one big theme and that's that's the main theme

00:27:21.500 and the other theme is the progression from the sort of liberal world of sort of individual

00:27:26.640 expression and so on into the woke world and what she tries to do with this list of banned books

00:27:30.720 is create a clear line between those and of course some post-liberal thinkers would say

00:27:35.480 there is a clear line between them but she's saying it in a positive way and i'll show you

00:27:38.680 what i mean she's basically trying to hijack the cachet of banned books which basically means

00:27:43.620 classics like 1984 and she's trying to claim that she's trying to put them alongside in a curated

00:27:48.400 list with full-on woke ideological activism posing as literature this is what really bothers me about

00:27:53.820 it so i'll prove it now so so julie opens a banned books library in one of the world's most beautiful

00:28:00.080 bookshops it's in lay low which is a famous bookshop in porto um and they say that it's to

00:28:06.360 assemble a permanent collection of 100 titles we still recognize as manifestos of freedom and open

00:28:11.400 the manifesto library at livery or whatever it's called lela so so it's all about saying it's about

00:28:18.680 freedom these are manifestos of freedom now a few three things immediately well one thing was

00:28:23.220 immediately clear when i heard that duolipa was coming up with a list of banned books and that

00:28:27.140 was that they definitely wouldn't be banned yeah and three reasons one it's virtually a tautology

00:28:32.960 to say if she can get hold of them and easily stock a famous bookshop they're not banned

00:28:36.400 two there's zero chance a famous pop star would suddenly be like it's the david irving jeweler

00:28:41.920 leaper collection she's not going to suddenly have any genuinely controversial books i'm saying she

00:28:48.240 sure but she's definitely not going to do that that would be very funny though it'd be hilarious

00:28:51.560 it'd be like those memes when they sydney sweeney or lana del rey saying some dense political point

00:28:56.240 you know attributed to them and the third reason i knew they wouldn't be banned is if you've been

00:29:00.160 in waterstones you sometimes see this band book section and it's always just plot work orange

00:29:04.500 1984 books that were in one handmaid's tale the handmaid's tale is always in there and it is in

00:29:10.320 here and it's the perfect emblem really of what this is which i'll get on to so so really it's

00:29:17.100 incredibly um mainstream books it's stuff that i did at school like handmaid's tale and it's stuff

00:29:23.460 that i did at university like for example uh things fall apart by a kb or invisible man by

00:29:29.620 Ellison so these are incredibly mainstream books so Simone de Beauvoir the second sex that's not a

00:29:36.440 banned book none of them are banned now to be very fair on the banned thing they do acknowledge

00:29:41.440 they're not necessarily banned they say the collection also includes books that may never

00:29:44.500 have been formally banned but have nevertheless questioned existing structures of power or the

00:29:48.280 suppression of individual and collective voices making room for those whose stories that have

00:29:52.760 others have tried to erase okay saints that doesn't feature weirdly that doesn't feature

00:29:58.600 in cold blood i mean really the the popular non-fiction novel by truman capote you know

00:30:04.260 it's it's tenuous stuff but what really bothers me is if you go down to the voice section it's

00:30:09.620 particular so they've got these different sections control i'll get onto that one voice

00:30:12.600 so this category amplifies voices that have historically or systematically been marginalized

00:30:16.660 excluded or underrepresented these works reclaim space visibility and narrative authority through

00:30:21.320 questions of race gender identity geography and belonging trevor noah and trevor noah is in that

00:30:26.760 Yeah, and Decolonising the Mind by Nugugi's in there,

00:30:30.520 and Genderqueer.

00:30:31.700 So Invisible Man, actually a great book.

00:30:33.700 I studied at university, Ralph Ellison's only novel.

00:30:36.720 But if you go down, you see that actually

00:30:38.320 Catrin the Rye is in.

00:30:40.680 And I find this fascinating because of a few reasons.

00:30:42.780 Like Salinger, generally great writer.

00:30:44.720 Holden Caulfield won the great literary creation.

00:30:46.200 The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

00:30:47.840 Yeah.

00:30:48.500 And so what really annoys me about this is 0.99

00:30:50.400 there's zero chance that the Salinger of today

00:30:54.720 would get anywhere in publishing.

00:30:56.760 white men are explicitly banned from publishers or have been for a very long time. And they would

00:31:00.660 say, this is the narcissistic ramblings of a privileged white man. It's about a kid going 0.80

00:31:05.400 to prep school. You know, they would hate it. But Dua Lipa, in having this list, tries to create

00:31:11.400 a link between Catching the Rye and genderqueer by Kababi, which is what? It's a coming of age 0.97

00:31:18.340 story about someone realizing they're outside of the gender binary. Okay. Can you really put

00:31:23.980 these things together. Can you put together the era of great literature that was about individual

00:31:27.720 genius, eccentric individual genius, freedom, artistic risk, artistic expression? Can you

00:31:33.100 really conflate that with stamped racism, anti-racism anew by Ibram X. Kendi? I say no,

00:31:41.540 but there's two broad schools of thought on the whole idea that liberalism kind of became woke,

00:31:46.620 right? So certain post-liberal thinkers, maybe Deneen or someone would say it had the inherent

00:31:51.240 logic that had the seeds of its own destruction within it then an andrew doyle would say woke is

00:31:56.900 a hard break from liberalism and it as an attack on it from the outside andrew doyle's wrong on

00:32:01.800 that you say he's wrong i'm i'm not taking a stance except to say that what jua lipa's doing

00:32:06.020 is a sort of is a variation on the first one she's saying yes it's an extension of it but in a good

00:32:11.260 way yeah so they all say that they all say that to show how we know that there is an extension of

00:32:17.620 you can look at uh kimberly crenshaw's initial work like just shortly before she coins the term

00:32:24.540 intersectionality right so um i can't remember the name of it she always has really long names

00:32:29.640 to these essays um but in the very first one in i think it was 1988 what she's critiquing

00:32:35.380 is the nature of the liberal uh categories that they use to identify uh forms of oppression so

00:32:43.480 she will say, ah, well, look, this person, because he's a black man, has been arrested here. This

00:32:48.540 person, because she is a white woman, has been arrested here. But if you're a black woman,

00:32:53.660 then you're actually not treated under the double oppression that the system is oppressing you under 0.98

00:32:58.560 because we don't recognize that black and woman are intersecting categories that form a double 0.60

00:33:05.320 form of oppression. And so it's explicitly using the liberal framework of categorical rights

00:33:11.380 claims that she is just combining and that was always possible to do we'd just never done it

00:33:17.880 until the late 80s and so it's there's there's no she doesn't reframe anything there's no

00:33:23.220 she's not going outside of the liberal order she is expressly combining two things that were always

00:33:28.580 there and always could have been combined it's just nobody had done until that point and she

00:33:33.320 was very successful because of course if you're a liberal you go well that's true i agree that the 0.94

00:33:36.820 black man is being oppressed i agree that woman's oppressed and therefore why shouldn't a black 0.91

00:33:41.120 woman be doubly oppressed you can't escape the logic of it so this is why Andrew Doyle is wrong 0.96

00:33:45.640 on that I'm afraid yeah and it's a compelling I like Andrew Doyle yeah I like him I read his book

00:33:49.540 I questioned him on aspects of his book as well um I'm quoted in actually so it's got some good

00:33:53.960 points but um I did uh I did have him on my podcast and ask him some things like about that

00:33:57.560 but what troubles me and it may be just that this was where it was always going to go because a lot

00:34:01.880 of writers are lefties as well but yeah it what bothers me is that we had these genuine literary

00:34:08.380 achievements and just as just as few woke people will openly say they hate free speech they'll

00:34:15.780 pretend to like it there's something about the cachet of these genuinely great works which are

00:34:20.860 in there that they sort of that Dua Lipa knows is cool she knows she wants to have the banned cachet

00:34:26.080 because some of these people actually have been banned and she also wants to sort of harness

00:34:30.060 genuine literary achievements so just to i just thought i'd look up that uh Kimberley Crenshaw

00:34:34.960 essay title if anyone wanted it it is called the marginalizing the intersection of race and sex a

00:34:40.840 black feminist critique of anti-racist anti-discrimination doctrine feminist theory and

00:34:44.960 anti-racist politics as i said she always has really long titles um that you can never remember

00:34:49.580 but that's the one where she critiques it but sorry carry on no no and i so and in sexualism

00:34:53.960 is literally mentioned somewhere in here it's either one of the book titles or it's in one

00:34:56.500 of the blurbs i can't remember but what bothers me is that there was a time of actually great

00:35:01.120 literature how you can't have a literary culture where the Salinger of today would never be allowed

00:35:07.200 anywhere near it while putting Salinger in your list and claiming he's on a continuum with these

00:35:11.240 others even if you can argue politically they are that's what bothers me about the list doesn't the

00:35:15.400 adventures of Huckleberry Finn have the n-word yes yeah and so you go that wouldn't pass it wouldn't

00:35:21.740 pass and none of most of these wouldn't you see either because of the personal behavior of the

00:35:27.680 writer or i mean salinger had a relationship with a much uh younger woman girl really i mean i think

00:35:33.320 she was 18 and he was like 50 something he'd be cancelled william burroughs is in the list he'd

00:35:37.100 be cancelled for so many reasons i mean he did accidentally shoot his wife in the head so probably

00:35:40.620 also be in prison but it'd certainly be cancelled just to give you an idea of what the publishing

00:35:45.660 industry is like i found this from the um wish list of a new york uh literary agency of things

00:35:54.860 they should send and shouldn't send so here are things that writers shouldn't send to this agent

00:35:59.340 books with suicide ideation gratuitous violence or mass shootings this by the way rules out

00:36:04.880 Welbeck's extraordinary novel submission one of the great contemporary novels uh because the

00:36:10.080 character constantly thinks about killing himself throughout books with eating disorders unchallenged

00:36:14.020 fat phobia or unchallenged diet culture imagine that rules out a book called transcription which

00:36:19.460 is done really well by a guy called Ben Lerner I hate the book but it actually rules out even 0.67

00:36:23.840 sort of celebrated contemporary literary authors bizarrely stories featuring nazi zionist zionism

00:36:28.940 ice republicans police or military no police or military military yeah even leaving aside her

00:36:34.080 obvious hate for israel police or military is gone world war ii so catch 22 slaughterhouse five are

00:36:39.840 gone civil war era fiction these things she's keeping out of it these are don't send me right

00:36:45.240 so you can't you can't read hit uh churchill's memoirs no well these are like non-fiction these

00:36:51.260 like don't send me these things if you're a writer so civil war era fiction unless written

00:36:55.480 from a marginalized perspective maybe the south um i've got my southern uh civil war stuff um

00:37:05.200 not what i meant dated ideals of partnership relationships femininity and masculinity so

00:37:10.420 that's everything romance containing sexual acts without some form of understood consent verbal

00:37:15.380 or otherwise you must not want women to read them yeah but who wants it i mean who who is thinking i

00:37:20.720 only read books that have a that has a on like non-consensual sex i mean that's a bizarre thing

00:37:26.900 or romance containing sexual acts with characters that are heavily intoxicated i mean that's every

00:37:31.320 like brettys and ellis book gone so no drugs or drinking with sex conservative or conservative

00:37:35.720 leaning books of course are gone dark and gritty books couldn't have fight club issue driven books

00:37:40.520 that's everything everything she's listed an issue driven book on her thing on her list is an issue

00:37:46.780 driven book yes but this is a separate thing this was just me me highlighting the state of the

00:37:52.180 publishing industry oh right as we are today with an extreme example but sorry i was busy reading

00:37:56.480 about you're busy reading up on intersectional no no i was i was reading up about jody um pico

00:38:01.380 19 minutes because i used to work in a book uh i used to work in the warehouse of a book club an

00:38:08.740 online book club and so we would have to like you know send books things and there were loads of

00:38:13.140 jodie picou books and so i'd flip through a few of them they just seem like women's romance novels

00:38:17.820 yes so like oh she's got a banned book on there and i looked up it's a it's a book about school

00:38:22.020 shooting actually that would be banned as well well yeah i actually worked in a book warehouse

00:38:26.800 as well for a short period of time but this would have been uh i think as well i was 19 about two

00:38:31.780 years ago and something i noticed whilst i was in there right because you know i was getting

00:38:35.780 you know you're pushing books all day you get bored so i'd always try to like read the blurb

00:38:39.380 of every book i was pushing and something i noticed is a lot of the fiction books wrote for

00:38:44.780 children are like so incredibly woke it's like it's like you'd think like ben shapiro wrote it

00:38:50.700 as like a satire for a film or something right i remember one in particular i can't remember the

00:38:56.280 name of the book but it had something about like oh you know our secret gay agenda on like part of

00:39:01.840 the iconography and one where it was about um the british colonization of india and the indian

00:39:09.560 children are having their magic stolen from them by the british i later saw it in waterstones

00:39:14.480 when even growing up going to high school i'd get the bus to the city and as i'm walking through

00:39:18.880 see i walk past waterstones what do i see on all the shelves why i'm no longer speaking to white 0.69

00:39:23.280 people about race we can go to a local bookshop and it's like and the answer is it's far worse 0.56

00:39:28.820 whatever's going on

00:39:29.420 in Dua Lipa's book 0.89

00:39:30.220 it was ridiculous

00:39:30.700 what they had

00:39:31.800 I have the Antifa handbook

00:39:32.720 in there

00:39:32.960 it's extraordinary

00:39:33.560 yeah

00:39:33.820 and partly it's because

00:39:35.600 publishing has been 1.00

00:39:36.240 taken over by women 1.00

00:39:36.980 so they put out 0.81

00:39:37.960 sort of women's romance

00:39:38.680 because men are not

00:39:39.360 reading as much

00:39:39.920 and it's self-fulfilling

00:39:40.940 why aren't they reading

00:39:41.980 because it's hostile to them

00:39:43.700 I took my oldest daughter

00:39:45.220 to Bath 0.52

00:39:45.900 to go clothes shopping

00:39:47.660 like a couple of years ago

00:39:48.920 and we went into

00:39:49.780 this clothes shop

00:39:50.540 and we're going around

00:39:51.440 looking at clothes

00:39:52.000 and they've got like

00:39:53.220 just a shelf full of books

00:39:54.720 that are just radical

00:39:55.440 communist books

00:39:56.160 of like the why

00:39:56.880 why I'm not talking

00:39:58.420 white people about race and stuff like that it's like it's literally like no no we need to program

00:40:01.940 young women to be insane radicals against like everything i know yeah and that was in a clothes

00:40:06.860 shop i know really weird sorry anyway i know well woke hasn't gone away it's no it's just one um

00:40:12.420 yeah so she doesn't want issue driven books and then some other stuff but the funny thing is

00:40:15.960 there's some funny stuff she does want adult romance novels graphic novels young adult romance

00:40:20.100 memoir adult non-fiction fat main characters she does want that disabled main characters happy

00:40:25.440 endings writing that's funny on the line level imagine trying to be funny while not incorporating

00:40:30.040 any of these you're just like you're dodging like endless like you're like dodging all the lasers

00:40:34.420 while thinking but i've got to be funny it gets he is looking for monsters polycules triads

00:40:39.780 throuples trade union workers how many trade union people are in a throuple or a polycule this is

00:40:45.680 what i want to know main characters over 30 finally when i can get behind yeah i feel

00:40:49.280 represented finally there's any else bossy bottoms i don't know what that is i don't even

00:40:53.620 know what it is too old do you want me to explain or no no no no i'm curious i'm curious i believe

00:40:58.540 a bossy bottom would be referring to someone who is sexually submissive as being bossy about it so 0.98

00:41:03.440 perhaps a power bottom might be more traditional so it's a gay thing it's a gay very gay thing 0.97

00:41:08.560 gay thing fat main character disabled main character lots of tropes that's good extra 0.93

00:41:12.220 spice no idea will commit murder for the love interest love interest specific it's so specific 0.96

00:41:17.680 love interest seems morally gray but is actually a marshmallow with heart of gold underneath the

00:41:21.300 hard child exterior just write the book yourself she wants such a specific book it's an insanely

00:41:26.420 morally gray marshmallow who kills someone and is fat disabled and has tropes of course

00:41:31.400 gonna have tropes in it by the way but he's also very very uh open about asking consent 0.60

00:41:35.540 and yes he's morally gray but he would never yeah and he's a bossy start combining more of

00:41:40.200 his traits so we've got bossy bottom fat main character trade union worker and a polycule

00:41:44.080 that actually describes quite a few of the green party council

00:41:47.840 that's not that's that's not far from being a joke by the way i might put this into chat gpt

00:41:54.340 suit that comes up with yeah and it just goes on and on like this university world i think yeah

00:41:58.360 and it's insane they say i especially love when a book has strong themes of love and 0.51

00:42:01.740 friendship and it's extra queer you get the idea it's hilarious oh that was the one i was

00:42:07.180 thinking of especially interested in authors writing about the intersections of their identities

00:42:10.280 there it is so it just gives you an idea um maybe i'll go back to the list to show you that

00:42:15.840 this is what's going on in publishing so all these people will be cancelled nowadays people

00:42:19.960 like uh william burroughs uh they have naked lunch in the control section to kill a mockingbird oh

00:42:26.000 yeah that's on the bad list yeah i mean it's you read it at school you were made to read it in

00:42:30.020 school yes i'm just going to go to the control section because this one bothers me as well so

00:42:33.280 in control these are works that explore the mechanisms of control both visible and invisible

00:42:37.020 including surveillance propaganda technological influence and ideological conditioning which i

00:42:42.300 find hilarious in a list that has things like genderqueer and anti-racism are they self-aware

00:42:46.480 or no it's extraordinary well if you've got brave new world in there and you've got all of this 0.67

00:42:50.220 excessive sexualized stuff like sorry this this is why aldous huxley was correct and george orwell

00:42:56.100 was wrong they use sex as a weapon to control you and make everything about you just completely

00:43:01.640 debauched they still think they can use the cachet of a huxley while saying things like this and

00:43:06.520 notice as well who were the most fierce advocates of state tech surveillance and tech control during

00:43:12.220 covid it was the woke yeah so you've got kafka's the trial in here sort of the seminal critique of

00:43:17.500 bureaucracy but they're the most bureaucratic people they're the most wear your mask people

00:43:21.600 kafka would hate these people but it's because orwell would hate these people because he always

00:43:24.780 criticized the left's hypocrisy but it's because the sort of like pre-woke left understood like

00:43:29.340 you know george orwell audace huxley huxley um uh was the guy who wrote fahrenheit 451 ray bradbury

00:43:35.280 that's it like they recognize them as they're sort of like the classic dystopian uh warnings

00:43:41.260 from the early 20th century.

00:43:43.240 So it's like, yeah, don't let it all become like this.

00:43:45.200 And now they're at the point where they don't even recognise

00:43:47.000 that they are living that life.

00:43:49.020 They are the ones who are advocating this.

00:43:50.860 But they can't just dump them, because that's kind of like,

00:43:52.920 yeah, okay, we're actually...

00:43:53.900 Yeah, because they still want the cachet of it.

00:43:55.140 This infuriates me.

00:43:58.260 And, yeah.

00:44:00.020 The Handmaid's Tale.

00:44:00.760 The Handmaid's Tale is the ultimate, in a way,

00:44:02.240 because the Handmaid's Tale is a symbol...

00:44:04.760 What is the Handmaid's Tale?

00:44:05.440 It's a symbol of... 0.83

00:44:06.420 Utopian fiction.

00:44:06.980 The ultimate straw man. 0.99

00:44:08.180 It's, we've got a Christian patriarchy 1.00

00:44:11.240 that's taken over America, 1.00

00:44:12.840 and isn't that terrible, everyone?

00:44:13.940 Yeah, let's, this whole list is The Handmaid's Tale

00:44:16.500 because it's a straw man.

00:44:19.020 Did you ever read it or watch it?

00:44:21.220 I watched it, I read it in school.

00:44:23.040 Got four marks for my essay on it.

00:44:24.520 Oh, really?

00:44:24.820 Simpler times.

00:44:25.540 Doesn't make any sense though, does it? 1.00

00:44:26.580 It's like, why would a bunch of infertile women 1.00

00:44:29.080 get married to super powerful men? 1.00

00:44:31.380 Well, they're forced to, aren't they? 1.00

00:44:33.080 No, but the handmaids are forced to be impregnant, 0.99

00:44:36.220 but why wouldn't I marry the handmaids? 1.00

00:44:37.880 Like, why would you think infertile women would become... 1.00

00:44:41.040 Oh, I see. 1.00

00:44:41.620 Like, you know, if it was only like a third of the women

00:44:46.040 or, you know, a small percentage of women 0.99

00:44:47.200 who could bear children, 1.00

00:44:49.220 the richest men would marry those women. 1.00

00:44:51.360 Right, yeah. 1.00

00:44:51.760 You wouldn't just have them as handmaids. 1.00

00:44:53.440 Like, handmaids would be the infertile ones. 1.00

00:44:55.220 The absurdity to me is more simple. 1.00

00:44:57.160 It's in Afghanistan right now, 1.00

00:44:58.500 we basically have the handmaid's tale,

00:45:00.080 but we're not going to critique that. 0.89

00:45:01.280 We're going to critique a fictitious Christian patriarchy

00:45:04.100 because it's so much easier. 1.00

00:45:04.780 And I understand that it's a dystopia

00:45:06.160 and that's an established form,

00:45:07.500 but it's a straw man.

00:45:09.400 Depends on your perspective.

00:45:10.260 Yeah, it's very easy.

00:45:11.480 This whole list is how I may tell

00:45:12.600 because this whole list is about a straw man.

00:45:14.820 We pretend we're banned,

00:45:16.000 we pretend we're edgy,

00:45:16.900 but we're not.

00:45:17.660 And we're harnessing actually edgy books

00:45:19.040 that are in amongst these

00:45:20.260 and actual classics

00:45:21.080 in order to further woke oppression,

00:45:23.500 essentially,

00:45:24.060 and ideological conformity.

00:45:25.500 And the one exception to this

00:45:26.900 is actually Salman Rushdie's

00:45:29.680 Satanic Verses,

00:45:30.380 which gets in there.

00:45:31.360 Oh, really?

00:45:31.700 This is interesting to me

00:45:32.540 because this is genuinely edgy.

00:45:34.820 Why?

00:45:35.160 Because he had a fatwa against him

00:45:36.580 his entire life.

00:45:37.200 2022 he is actually stabbed over this book so you cannot say that's not a controversial book

00:45:42.640 and also albania being a muslim country so theoretically she being at least a nominal

00:45:47.780 muslim and like she's a normal muslim but i'll have to check that well i'm gonna check but

00:45:52.380 what's interesting about it to me is i think they've missed something my theory is because

00:45:55.940 it's portugal you know how europe is sometimes slightly less woke or they've just let it in

00:46:00.280 there because this book exists on the fault line between these two but it's actually a critique of

00:46:05.340 something progressives protect yes it's a critique of islam yeah this is well it's on the fault line

00:46:11.260 because what do we have with rushdie we had rushdie defended by the liberal old guard christopher

00:46:16.300 hitchens and many others then we saw this era where people like shirley williams liberal democrat

00:46:20.260 started attacking rushdie saying he shouldn't have a knighthood famously hitchens defends him

00:46:24.520 on question time and this thing was 2010 maybe it was a long time and so this book and rushdie

00:46:30.720 himself exists on the fault line between the old liberal idea that it's bad to have a fatah against

00:46:35.460 you to the new idea that all muslims are oppressed by the west and shut up about it yeah so that's

00:46:39.680 why i'm surprised it's in there because that's the only genuinely edgy choice therefore that

00:46:43.620 remains and i think is it like a mistake have you ever read it or do you know about it so the

00:46:47.180 satanic verses there are a couple of verses in the quran where muhammad seems to concede that

00:46:52.380 there are two other gods or that satan's whispering in his ear or something like that which of course 0.77

00:46:57.380 throws all of islam into doubt right and therefore if you write a book about all of this you can find 0.98

00:47:05.940 yourself with a fatwa and people trying to murder you in the street yeah like this is genuinely that 0.90

00:47:10.700 that is a genuinely edgy inclusion exactly so i think is it is it because it's portugal and

00:47:15.000 you know it's like michelle welbert can still be a literary star in france and he does need

00:47:18.720 protection now after because it after charlie hebdo they kind of he was kind of targeted but

00:47:23.760 but sometimes europe's a little bit less woke so i wonder if it's something to do with that

00:47:27.320 or have they just not realized how far Rushdie is now banned by the woke really you know sort of

00:47:32.840 sort of quasi-banned so I don't know so that's my my theory with the list is it tries to use this

00:47:38.900 old cachet of great works and segues into the evil of woke but I am stumped slightly by the fact

00:47:45.700 the way I put it I wrote an article I said you either celebrate beauty individual expression

00:47:49.180 and artistic risk or identity ideological conformity and activism posing as art you can't

00:47:53.860 have both. And I do maintain that, but I do wonder what you do about the fact that so many writers

00:47:58.000 are basically leftists. You know, even Kundera, he's in the list. He was kicked out of the

00:48:02.020 Communist Party and so on, but he was still a lefty. I mean, many writers are. Not all of them.

00:48:08.620 T.S. Eliot wasn't. Of course, S. for Pound wasn't. C.S. Lewis wasn't. But there is that tendency,

00:48:13.540 and even now you get the problem where famous writers like Jonathan Franson are still lefties.

00:48:18.120 He wouldn't be allowed to publish. He was younger because he's a white man, but he kind of ignores

00:48:21.920 the DEI which is an older white man thing Ian McEwan still publish and so so but I don't know

00:48:27.280 what you do about the fact that writers are lefties maybe the logic of the things they wanted

00:48:31.580 was always going to go in this direction and destroy literature I want to somehow get back

00:48:35.880 which is why I've started my channel Nick Reads which I never promote here but I want to try and

00:48:39.980 get back to great literature but but but has literature always has the world of literature

00:48:44.380 always been headed towards work like this I don't know I think it doesn't help that there seems to

00:48:49.600 be perhaps more so unlike the center right uh a bit of a negative view towards art i'm sort of you

00:48:56.140 know going back to the political compass test you know is uh what's more important but businessmen

00:49:00.740 or the artist and i feel like a lot of people on the right instinctively think oh you know

00:49:04.000 economics or libertarianism you know prosperity oh no the businessmen absolutely so it's something

00:49:09.720 we've sort of kind of surrendered to the left at this point but there are still institutions

00:49:14.000 which are right wing uh which will you know even be bookshops right you have old speak bookshop

00:49:19.060 big shout out to them and then there is a publishing company who did an event with them

00:49:24.260 i cannot think of their name apologies uh but they will you know be publishing right wing office they

00:49:28.620 published edward mclaren's buffleford's gone uh do you wear that book i'm not yes yes it's a very

00:49:34.360 well written book i've started reading and it is essentially about uh a young man growing up in a

00:49:40.740 diverse part of britain and it's sort of like witnessing the effects of particularly grooming

00:49:44.900 gangs around him and his experiences in school which he based a little bit off of mine so i feel

00:49:50.240 like i'm sorry oh wow really in a little part a little part i'm gonna read it but do you know

00:49:53.920 what i was gonna mention that point so thank you i forgot yeah this has been ignored by

00:49:58.440 conservatives by someone the right to a large extent for the to some degree the whole culture

00:50:03.580 has been taken over and it's kind of been allowed to happen someone even replied to me recently yeah

00:50:07.380 it's not important in entertainment but when it comes to business and the economy i'm like

00:50:10.340 okay try giving 11 years of your life to comedy and tell me it's not important it's like

00:50:14.600 it has ruined loads of people's lives. DEI has destroyed lives, that famous Jacob Savage piece

00:50:19.280 in Compact. But you're right, we've neglected, particularly literature, men don't read,

00:50:23.180 conservatives think it's not important. I think it's a big mistake, because who are the great

00:50:26.940 writers of the past? A lot of them are just, they're just sort of white blokes who would not

00:50:30.380 be allowed to be published anymore. Orwell's just one of many. But if art wasn't important,

00:50:35.020 the left wouldn't spend so much time and money on it. You've got to remember...

00:50:38.380 They're obsessed with it. Yeah, everything they do is an attempt to tear down the thing. I mean,

00:50:42.480 the odyssey wouldn't happen if they couldn't pervert and debauch it right that's what they

00:50:47.800 that's why they spend all this money to do it there is a reference on the in on the right for

00:50:51.680 authors of the past but they don't seem to realize that if we've allowed publishing to be this woke

00:50:56.080 there's no authors of the future yeah so that annoys us they're all genderqueer polycules

00:51:01.060 right so i'm trying to sort of bring this back and say because it's kind of there's more focus 0.72

00:51:06.140 on gaming and how they destroy gaming the odyssey's a woke film comedy is awful but there's

00:51:12.220 not as much focus on literature and it's possibly the most woke area of all of them so i'm just

00:51:16.460 trying to highlight it a little bit using a duolipa as an example and that is pretty much

00:51:20.180 my segment that's a random name says so duolipa wants smut a stereotype that women women only

00:51:26.240 read smut remains undefeated well sometimes they remain they read leftist propaganda as well 0.99

00:51:30.240 so you know they read morally gray billionaire werewolf

00:51:33.440 have you heard of the minotaur milking farm a morning glory yeah madster one yeah i've been

00:51:43.360 forced to be exposed to some of it and it's but maybe that could be one for your channel

00:51:48.000 yeah yeah yeah no you you really should can i just say on that i mean i don't want to plug

00:51:51.940 my channel card but it is amazing i did a video on tom's burnout be humble about it well the reason

00:51:56.720 it's so it's relevant not i'm not amazing but not as amazing as my article in london no not

00:52:01.380 what's amazing is that

00:52:02.660 I did a thing on Thomas Bernard

00:52:03.780 who's an Austrian writer

00:52:05.280 most people never heard

00:52:05.940 I've got over 40,000 views

00:52:07.080 and then I did one on

00:52:08.380 That Hadeous Strength

00:52:09.000 CS Lewis 40,000

00:52:10.580 which is for a brand new channel

00:52:11.560 I know you say it gives you

00:52:12.600 a little boost

00:52:13.100 but I think

00:52:13.540 but that's still good

00:52:14.160 I think there is a

00:52:15.440 there are people out there

00:52:16.160 who care about serious literature

00:52:17.260 I'm not nagging you

00:52:18.420 no but there's people out there

00:52:19.920 who care about

00:52:20.580 who do care about this stuff

00:52:21.980 anyway sorry

00:52:22.520 I can't remember

00:52:22.880 what that was related to

00:52:23.900 the thing is

00:52:24.960 the thing is the market

00:52:26.300 the thing is the market

00:52:27.580 is finding a way

00:52:28.420 biggest games are written

00:52:29.460 by small studios

00:52:30.140 staffed by young guys now

00:52:31.080 for multiple small movie successes this year.

00:52:33.380 Nobody likes their ideology.

00:52:34.720 Yeah, I mean, like with the ability to self-publish,

00:52:38.300 one would expect loads of like young right-wing authors

00:52:40.980 to come up with, you know,

00:52:42.560 here's a surprise Amazon self-publishing hit

00:52:45.300 of an incredible book, right?

00:52:47.020 But you don't see it very often.

00:52:48.400 It's just happened with a book called Theo of Golden.

00:52:50.380 I should have said more of this,

00:52:51.180 but this was self-published, completely ignored.

00:52:53.680 People say, oh, it's too literary. 0.97

00:52:54.680 It's a white bloke.

00:52:55.380 And then it went massive.

00:52:56.620 I think Oprah's now picked it up.

00:52:57.660 Now it's sold like two million or something.

00:52:58.860 It's self-published.

00:53:00.140 And I forgot to mention,

00:53:01.080 it's not just the wokeness there's a list of absurd rules now amongst publishers you have to

00:53:05.740 start in media res with the main conflict like a film you have to have a certain page count you

00:53:11.120 have to have a certain word count in your sentences sentences can't be above something

00:53:15.060 like 38 words it's insane you can't they discourage metaphor this is a real example from a publisher

00:53:21.780 i forgot to mention they discourage the use of metaphor i'm like what is there left so there's

00:53:26.700 become this and it's just insane factual statements it's bizarre it's become not just so it's not

00:53:31.540 just woke it's incredibly risk averse and it's incredibly prescriptive and they basically want

00:53:35.320 the next netflix series in the form of a novel so just they've destroyed literature you know

00:53:41.280 there are books that take 150 pages and classic novels to get going you know someone's talking

00:53:45.760 about war and peace the other day at Tolstoy taking like a long digression about military

00:53:50.120 history or something or you know this is the kind of thing i've never read Tolstoy i'm not a

00:53:56.700 they've taken everything about classical literature and just got rid of it and said

00:54:00.060 book's got to be like a punchy film script that's totally woke with no metaphors

00:54:05.540 madness oh this is the reason i'm not going to try and write anything uh anyway let's uh i thought

00:54:11.940 we'd have to talk about the kind of embarrassing meltdown of british politics that's currently

00:54:15.280 happening uh with the transition from the starmer government to andy burnham and of course the uh

00:54:21.500 by-election in clacton and just the if you just take a step back and just look at our political

00:54:26.080 environment you're like really is this it is it is this it is this what britain is in 2026 i mean

00:54:31.760 you look at the front edge of labor i mean that's going to change but not by much um are there any

00:54:35.960 of them that you would put on mastermind uh probably david lamb if i mean if you wanted to 0.95

00:54:42.160 win but i thought oh but right i think mahmoud could do okay yeah doesn't seem completely stupid

00:54:48.920 yeah that's true that great great we've done one use mandelson anymore but i think he probably was

00:54:53.580 quite high IQ from my understanding of him clearly wasn't a silly guy I think you are right though

00:54:57.460 you can't use Mandelson anymore because literally Mandelson caused a meltdown at the top of the

00:55:01.280 Labour Party and in fact is instrumental in one of the reasons that Keir Starmer has been removed

00:55:06.520 so like it's just all of these okay so the Labour Party in charge on a really weak uh victory 0.99

00:55:14.260 full of morons completely in charge of the country and they're about to steamroll the economy 0.99

00:55:19.420 because Andy Burnham has just today come out and said a bunch of things that are just like oh god 1.00

00:55:23.360 he wants to nationalize everything basically and it's like yeah we've got no money we're not going

00:55:27.160 to do any of this but anyway so we're completely screwed in that then you've got the conservatives

00:55:30.640 who i mean they just have this african anchor baby and everyone's like yeah she's brilliant

00:55:36.420 you say she's brilliant i think she's she's plus three in the polls now and burnham's plus three

00:55:41.860 she's she's in the positive for the first time i say she's doing well i'm just looking at the

00:55:46.180 facts carl i'm not she just feels like such a relic though she feels like she's still stuck in

00:55:49.660 like 2016 our culture war politics and perhaps that's why the conservatives have her she's very 0.99

00:55:55.220 safe yeah the english people want to have a taxes lowered by a black woman more than anything else 1.00

00:55:59.920 it does make sense to have her there i would like some representation though right that's the thing

00:56:04.080 i i'm an englishman i do not feel represented by the conservative party and again it's not just her

00:56:08.660 either like it's the michael goves it's the um what's the indian woman priti patel like it's

00:56:14.920 james cleverly so look they're the most diverse party in the world and actually labor is a lot

00:56:19.300 more not diverse than the conservative parties okay that's embarrassing as they elect their

00:56:22.860 next white male leader exactly because they know how the game is played and then you've got reform

00:56:28.920 and it's like okay it's the sort of like dell boy rodney trotter party of british politics

00:56:34.020 there's oh god and they're they're they're declining now because of course farage is

00:56:38.160 spectacularly stepped on a rake calling the clackton by-election and so it's just like

00:56:43.080 everything's just this weird like melting down everything's just going very badly and because

00:56:48.780 of the five million which the press is obsessed with sure sure but like again that's what i mean

00:56:52.780 by this sort of del boy politics oh yeah you know so it's like you know the sort of grift politics

00:56:57.800 which actually underpins spiv vibes yeah yeah yeah like arthur daly and all that sort of like you

00:57:03.660 know yeah he's never been able to quite get away from that for us that's just part of his

00:57:07.360 appeal and his and his lack of appeal sure and yeah exactly and it's becoming a lack of appeal

00:57:12.560 at this point right because it's like okay so british politics is in this general position

00:57:16.340 meltdown and really stupid things are happening so we're going to cover a bunch of those um but

00:57:20.700 first go and get islander link will be in the description we're doing this three times so

00:57:24.040 people on youtube can see it um it's excellent it's amazing and it's about what we can do next

00:57:29.120 and we should do next so i thought we'd talk about the clangton by-election a bit um where's

00:57:33.120 your article in the spectator where's my article in the spectator oh i don't know i haven't been

00:57:38.500 in touch yet yeah weird because count bimface has got one supporting christopher nolan's odyssey

00:57:43.580 i did get one in the eastern daily press to be fair that's very good

00:57:47.940 my hometown yeah they're backing me that's good isn't it freddie sayers deciding all this

00:57:52.080 i don't know i mean michael gove is the editor in chief sayers seems to decide this what goes

00:57:56.920 in this anon herd somehow what what are we doing it's just not funny it's not it was like when my

00:58:04.500 cousin my big green party's putting lefty cousin told me about camp in face and all bucket head

00:58:09.020 when i was about 11 i thought oh that's kind of funny yeah that was about the extent of that's

00:58:12.920 how funny 11 year old me found it yeah yeah it's embarrassing well i said in an article democracy

00:58:18.380 dies in tween us it's it's a it's a writer for have i got news for you ultimate centrist dad

00:58:24.340 writer the worst one was when he's interviewing alistair campbell or vice versa and they're just

00:58:28.860 two centrist dads just saying how great each other is with this incredibly flimsy conceit of a bin

00:58:34.500 he's great well you're great alice i mean and you speak across the aisle to rory and i was like

00:58:38.860 If you don't have a bin, you're just...

00:58:40.220 Speaking across the arms of Rory Stewart.

00:58:41.920 Yeah, I know, it's completely absurd.

00:58:42.820 Another centrist dad.

00:58:43.800 But the only thing that's justifying this is a bin,

00:58:45.980 but you're just another establishment centrist dad

00:58:48.060 telling us, you know, who hates the people.

00:58:50.580 But you're just wearing a bin.

00:58:51.420 I'm like, that's incredibly flimsy, no point in turning.

00:58:54.440 You know what's really weird about it as well?

00:58:55.920 There's something about all of this

00:58:57.440 that comes across kind of like a Pledge of Allegiance.

00:58:59.920 So he says in this,

00:59:01.180 Nolan is a master storyteller

00:59:03.280 who's embarked on a colossal journey and pulled it off,

00:59:05.960 which makes him nothing short of a cinematic Odysseus.

00:59:08.000 and then they've all endorsed him so kemi badenock andy burnham and keir starmer have all endorsed

00:59:12.200 camp binface so there's this weird sort of like series of pledges that are going on it's like no

00:59:16.980 no we're all for this we're all for this we're all for camp binface we're all for the odyssey 0.95

00:59:20.120 we're all for it it's like okay but all of these things are shit sorry for swearing like all of 0.96

00:59:24.180 these things are they're not funny in any way and here's another thing that's just not funny 0.86

00:59:28.340 uh a parody article about the online right taking a pop at the anons who are not happy

00:59:36.560 of Rupert Lowe

00:59:37.340 this is in The Spectator

00:59:38.940 by some

00:59:40.120 someone called

00:59:41.420 Red Squirrel

00:59:42.300 whoever's written this

00:59:43.160 and it's just

00:59:43.680 whinging

00:59:44.280 like from the perspective

00:59:45.960 of an online and non

00:59:47.140 that Rupert Lowe

00:59:48.100 isn't goose stepping around

00:59:49.620 and it's like

00:59:50.160 yeah

00:59:50.620 I don't think that's what

00:59:52.120 people are criticising

00:59:53.040 for to be completely

00:59:53.840 it's a bit of a

00:59:54.540 anti-parody

00:59:55.780 well yeah

00:59:56.420 it's not a great parody

00:59:58.380 but it's also

00:59:59.220 who is this for

01:00:00.340 like what

01:00:01.800 what is the point of this

01:00:03.160 centrist ads

01:00:03.840 they really hate

01:00:04.880 but they don't

01:00:05.460 they wouldn't get it there's no audience no exactly because i mean it's it's just the whole

01:00:10.940 thing is like this you know caricature of the online and non's complaining about rupert low

01:00:15.960 and it's like okay that's really niche like really really niche but also is this not like

01:00:22.060 debauching the spectators brand somewhat yeah there seems to be a blind spot in the sort of

01:00:27.140 reform or reform adjacent kind of world when it comes to attacking restore how niche it is how

01:00:32.500 silly it makes them look how nasty it comes across it's just complete l for them every time they do

01:00:36.900 it probably a bit of an l when they allow bonnie blue to publish a pro nigel farage piece as well 0.85

01:00:41.560 that was yeah i covered that on here that was terrible i don't know why people dignify her

01:00:45.520 because like it's she obviously doesn't it's literally just how can i get in the news cycle

01:00:49.680 this week and we're promoting just you know the complete decadence of britain with her there must

01:00:54.720 have been a story about rape gangs yeah probably it's like those bizarre telegraph pieces you see

01:00:58.880 all the time about like i left my husband and now i'm in a triad and i'm free freer than ever

01:01:05.280 and it's like you're like are you a 90s tabloid it's really weird there's this weird debauchery

01:01:10.220 in the center-right publications i don't understand yeah what he says behind a lot of it

01:01:14.800 but it's weirdly absent in the sort of center-left ones like the guardian and the independent are

01:01:19.780 actually kind of prudish not even really in the new statesman is it no they're kind of prudish

01:01:24.100 whereas the telegraph the spectator they'll happily platform bonnie blue they'll happily

01:01:29.660 put these sort of trivial nonsense they'll happily platform camp bimface so what what are you doing 0.88

01:01:35.140 like what is wrong with you all but anyway so let's let's go to clacton uh apparently the british

01:01:40.400 public love camp bimface according to a poll but the thing is this isn't a poll in clacton right

01:01:45.160 so this is just one in three british adults would prefer camp bimface to it what are we doing here

01:01:50.100 folks like this is completely unserious like so you're running a serious campaign in clacton i

01:01:54.840 understand yeah i think i might be the only person doing that and honestly that's why i got you off

01:01:59.240 oh thank you but so from my experience the only thing i've heard of count bin facing clacton

01:02:06.060 was uh so so on tuesday we had to go and we had to get our nomination papers signed by locals who

01:02:11.260 said we have the democratic democratic right to stand and one of our fellows was just standing

01:02:16.740 in the middle of clacton on sea handing out leaflets and one person out of probably over

01:02:21.940 100 people mentioned count bin face it's like completely astroturf just completely artificially

01:02:26.920 boosted by the media no one's taking him seriously and people say oh well you know what if like the

01:02:31.900 you know what 56 percent of people who didn't vote for farage vote for him conservative voters

01:02:38.160 aren't going to just start voting for count bin face right and the only person i found who was a

01:02:42.860 Labour voter in Clacton was like oh you know I vote Labour on principle and you know that's what 0.86

01:02:48.080 my dad voted for even though he agreed for me that we need re-migration you know still vote 0.94

01:02:52.300 for Labour I suppose I didn't quite win that one but yeah but the honest word on the ground from

01:02:57.520 my experience which has been in Jaywick which will be more radical right is Farage has completely

01:03:03.420 tanked his support I think a lot of people will begrudgingly vote for him still but there is

01:03:08.260 certainly an open bit of ground here and I can say this as Restore won't be able to get their

01:03:12.740 nomination papers within the next two hours sorted right well they're not they're not

01:03:16.220 fitting candidates specifically i think that i think they missed a trick here really yeah i've

01:03:19.880 i think restore could have made big ground with the amount of manpower that they've got in restore

01:03:22.860 you know it's a probably you know a thousand times more than my part maybe not as bad um but

01:03:27.980 yeah restore could have easily dominated collecting i think and probably got a seriously good result

01:03:32.760 that's interesting because i i understand uh that the thinking in restore is well farage is basically

01:03:39.480 just um pulling a frivolous stunt to try and distract from the five million pound investigation

01:03:44.800 and therefore dignifying it actually is a loss to actually engage in it is to dignify it um but

01:03:52.680 you could also punish it and but also because i mean from the outside yeah it's nigel farage's

01:03:57.960 constituency in clacton they're you know they're voting ukip they're going to vote for us so it

01:04:02.160 looked like a wasted opportunity uh it would look like a waste of resources not a wasted opportunity

01:04:08.180 sorry um but your your experience is Nigel Farage is not as popular there as he seems

01:04:12.180 yeah so the people of uh Jaywick specifically what they told me is that the only time I've

01:04:17.620 ever seen him there is for a photo op and obviously Jaywick is the most deprived town

01:04:21.680 in all of Britain and you know more so Persil's Farage it's in his constituency and they all

01:04:27.180 voted for Farage all of them and they all feel immensely betrayed by him because they saw him

01:04:31.520 as the man who was going to be kicking out the immigrants of course one-in-one out policy isn't

01:04:34.600 going to quite do that um yeah fundamentally they've been betrayed and the people in clacton

01:04:39.520 you know they're not falling for the sort of populist rhetoric of oh this is me this is the

01:04:44.100 establishment i'll let the people decide so that way when he inevitably gets found guilty and then

01:04:47.640 he has to do another by-election oh oh look at what the establishment's done to me now as if he

01:04:51.960 isn't the establishment himself but yeah the the reform support maybe people still support the

01:04:57.360 party they'll begrudgingly vote for him but they are now primed to move away from farage and from

01:05:02.780 my experience as well they are certainly on the immigration issue they are far more right-wing

01:05:07.660 than Farage is when I was doing my nomination my mum's more right-wing than Farage is on the

01:05:12.000 immigration issue it's a low bar but they're closer to my party than reform I would openly

01:05:16.040 speak to these people about remigration and demographic change and they were saying things

01:05:19.960 that I wouldn't even say they are pretty primed for it in Clacton so perhaps if there was a place

01:05:24.640 where an ashes party or a party which sort of on the fence like restore I think there's serious

01:05:30.640 ground to be made there if people put in the effort but it has to be dedicated you can't just

01:05:34.000 you know turn up and have a paper um candidate which i suppose i am to some degree right if a

01:05:39.420 party like restore uses their resources get their people active in clacton i reckon they could easily

01:05:44.320 take over to j wick council i reckon they could take over numerous places and once they've got

01:05:48.420 that um credence i would say what's the word i'm trying to find it something credibility credibility

01:05:55.280 people i think people go for them i think they've got a serious chance at unseating forage at the

01:06:00.340 general election or perhaps next one after that's interesting okay well that's interesting that

01:06:06.160 farage has managed to step on this break then because obviously this doesn't get him out of

01:06:10.340 any trouble it was a mistake from farage it was a strange error and then but then on top of it

01:06:15.420 this unedifying spectacle of all the parties going about bin face as you say and they're really

01:06:20.360 they're really reveling in just the decline of democracy it's like yeah this is not good this

01:06:24.380 doesn't look good so i think it's they say well it's it's a farage uh circus so we don't be

01:06:29.100 involved but i think they all come out pretty terribly in it and i said they have they but

01:06:33.560 the thing is that restore began that sort of narrative which was actually quite a strong

01:06:38.500 narrative farage is going to turn this into a circus and if his only like main opposition is

01:06:44.000 count binface yeah it does look silly and all they had to do was nothing right all they had to do was

01:06:49.360 literally nothing they didn't have to platform count binface they didn't have to all come out

01:06:53.840 and then endorse count binface because then it would have been nigel farage not against the

01:06:58.100 establishment and looking like a clown but they're like okay no we're for the clown actually so that 0.91

01:07:02.380 is an establishment candidate it's incredibly degrading as well you know you're saying to the 0.87

01:07:06.120 people in clacton you know some of the but i mean across the constituency some brits are the most

01:07:10.220 proud conditions in the country we think your struggles are a joke you know we don't care about

01:07:14.320 we're gonna tell you to vote with some sniveling leftist london set comedian who wouldn't even spit

01:07:18.760 on clacton yeah yeah genuinely the sort of person who hates the people of clacton yeah he looks at 0.99

01:07:24.280 as white working class english left behind well go turn your nose up he looks at him as scum yeah 0.84

01:07:29.820 that's why he writes for have i got these for you yeah and he wrote for was it uh john oliver as 0.97

01:07:34.760 well which is just i mean anyone who writes for john oliver is just the worst so anyway you've

01:07:40.180 got this this general kind of um pathetic frivolity in the political class at the moment

01:07:46.020 and it's because it just looks like democracy is just completely stitched up in this country 0.90

01:07:50.380 like you've seen the transition from starmer to um burnham yeah and it's just crazy like lord

01:07:57.440 sadiq khan man oh yeah oh oh sorry i forgot this one uh the guy who's taking part in the clackton

01:08:03.900 by-election dressed as a fox is like oh i'm pulling out because it's got too silly it's like

01:08:07.780 yeah i'm sure you're the judge mate but uh anyway lord sadiq khan they only made him a sir sadiq khan

01:08:14.340 last year i know and uh june sarpong who in my world is like a pop tv presenter now gets a peerage 1.00

01:08:21.680 it's it's insanity she's been employed for by the government to work like three days a week 1.00

01:08:25.980 on quarter of a million pounds on diversity nonsense yeah yeah it's i know and now she's

01:08:31.980 being made a dane this is so perfect for labor though isn't it especially not the new burnham 0.92

01:08:36.320 labor the this the mediocrity fembot karen rain you know what i mean the dead glassy eyes of 0.60

01:08:42.640 Bridget Philipson, the glassy doll eyes of the banality of evil. 0.64

01:08:47.480 Philipson, Philips, who's the other one? 0.97

01:08:50.060 Natalie Fleet, appalling, posted the other day about Anne Whittacombe. 1.00

01:08:54.580 Just putting, like, implacable enemies of the British public 0.97

01:08:57.620 in the House of Lords.

01:08:58.900 Starmer came in and was like, I'm going to abolish the House of Lords.

01:09:02.140 I wish you had.

01:09:03.800 I wish you had at this point.

01:09:05.700 Like, rather than Lord Sadiq Khan,

01:09:08.500 I can't imagine a greater humiliation if you were a British person, right?

01:09:12.640 But then the next one, he's giving Chris Wormtongue a bloody peerage.

01:09:16.920 He's the guy who forced, he was the chief of the civil service.

01:09:22.400 He's one of the many people Starmer threw under the bus.

01:09:24.320 He had to resign because of bloody Mandelson.

01:09:26.880 Like, he was linked to the scandal surrounding Mandelson and Jeffrey Epstein. 0.94

01:09:32.520 Oh no, he's in the house of bloody lords.

01:09:34.360 Probably like Starmer saying, sorry, please don't do anything to me.

01:09:37.040 Because he's probably, because Ollie Robbins is going to sue, isn't he?

01:09:39.560 Oh, he's going to make a cross-batch.

01:09:40.860 are just

01:09:41.280 unbelievable

01:09:42.560 how vandals

01:09:43.760 they destroyed the

01:09:44.400 hereditary peers

01:09:45.060 and they put in 0.99

01:09:45.500 these people

01:09:46.060 yes and now

01:09:47.000 they're putting in

01:09:47.460 people who are

01:09:47.920 connected to

01:09:48.480 at least he's done

01:09:49.200 a job

01:09:49.720 I mean Sadiq Khan

01:09:51.280 I suppose he's

01:09:52.160 done a terrible job

01:09:52.960 but I mean

01:09:53.620 June Sarp

01:09:54.280 I mean

01:09:54.580 I don't know

01:09:55.900 which one's 0.99

01:09:56.260 the most ridiculous 0.87

01:09:56.760 but perhaps 0.98

01:09:57.620 they are consolidating

01:09:59.260 some power there

01:10:00.120 but that is

01:10:00.900 absolutely terrible

01:10:01.960 optics

01:10:02.480 Sadiq Khan is

01:10:03.940 universally hated

01:10:04.820 no one looks at

01:10:05.420 London and thinks

01:10:05.860 you've done an

01:10:06.560 excellent job

01:10:07.160 you really deserve

01:10:08.140 your knighthood

01:10:08.740 Sadiq Khan isn't

01:10:09.620 even liked in

01:10:10.420 london yeah muslim muslim taxi drivers hates that he can't the ones i've spoken to he's i don't know

01:10:15.080 who the hell's voting for him to be honest of course i imagine you know obviously you les is 0.82

01:10:18.320 done them no favors yeah yeah exactly yeah who's happy with you les um anyways yeah so this a

01:10:24.960 series of really preposterous things right literally the guy involved in the mandelton

01:10:28.680 scandal who is one of the core people that starmer had to throw under the bus to preserve himself for

01:10:34.380 just a couple of weeks more right he's getting a peerage um obviously june sapong has just been 1.00

01:10:39.760 sat around just like a vampire a diversity vampire sucking quarter of a million pounds 1.00

01:10:45.100 out the British taxpayer for like two days a week work because she's black it's like oh right okay 0.99

01:10:49.940 glad she's been made a lord but as you see people say what's going on right the next thing is I love 0.98

01:10:55.840 this the back patters club like the the coalition of the willing so Keir Starmer um uh what's the

01:11:03.400 dude in France I can't remember his name Macron yeah uh and a series of others pack themselves

01:11:08.260 on the back and so zelinski has uh given starmer a ukrainian order of freedom oh that means so

01:11:13.980 much to me the ukrainians order of freedom ukraine was created as a country in 1953

01:11:18.860 like it's not like this is some sort of ancient title of nobility that has been created honestly

01:11:24.620 it's pathetic they just love each other do you see because he gives loads of money see his last

01:11:28.560 pmqs it was just how and i gave i gave him a hug and i said to nobody leaves alone because 0.94

01:11:34.300 it was a starmer basically secretly hates trump and he has been humiliated by trump he finally in

01:11:40.100 his last pmqs did a long rant about how trump had kicked out zelensky but i hugged him because

01:11:44.360 that's not what we do in britain it was so he just loves him but it's hilarious i hugged him

01:11:48.840 and gave him 500 billion and he gave me a medal this is backpatter i'll treasure it forever he

01:11:55.180 actually will treasure it he will yeah and it's more than like his family but again it's like

01:11:59.740 Macron had him over and gave him a big pat on the back.

01:12:03.040 He's like, everyone hates you as well, Macron.

01:12:05.520 And everyone hates Keir Starmer, and everyone hates Sadiq Khan.

01:12:08.140 And somehow, despite everyone hating them,

01:12:10.880 they get to put themselves in the House of Lords.

01:12:12.900 They get to give each other medals.

01:12:15.260 Like, you know, Zelensky isn't popular in Ukraine anymore, right?

01:12:18.640 Well, okay, he can't do anything about it

01:12:20.120 because he's literally cancelled elections.

01:12:21.820 So, okay, brilliant.

01:12:23.160 Anyway, the next one.

01:12:23.960 What does the medal actually symbolize there?

01:12:25.660 Like thousands of small businesses destroyed

01:12:27.540 and people plunged into poverty.

01:12:29.740 300,000 Ukrainian men dead.

01:12:31.500 I don't know what it represents,

01:12:33.080 all the money that he gave him, I guess.

01:12:35.880 But anyway, the next one is apparently 0.74

01:12:37.940 the government is going to give Pakistan

01:12:39.600 153 million pounds. 0.99

01:12:41.840 Just what, again, these poison parting gifts

01:12:44.640 that Starmer has given to us?

01:12:46.160 Because you may remember that 1.00

01:12:47.160 a Pakistani grooming gang leader

01:12:49.740 got out of jail recently. 1.00

01:12:51.340 Pakistan was like, we're not taking him back. 1.00

01:12:53.180 And we were like, oh, right, okay, 0.99

01:12:54.560 well, here's 153 million pounds then.

01:12:56.900 But weren't they trying to make some sort of deal

01:12:59.020 where it was like oh you have to like we'll do like a prisoner trade or something about that

01:13:03.040 you also have to give us back someone we want it was something very strange like that it seemed

01:13:07.240 entirely evil yeah quite possibly but they it's like with the money with france it's like okay

01:13:12.740 we've given quarter of a billion france to stop the boats well if the boat stopped no

01:13:16.140 well then what are we doing you know like what are we doing we just need to start using what

01:13:20.860 power we do have to essentially take these countries hostage and say oh okay oh you don't

01:13:24.520 want to take back this grooming gang leader yeah remittances 100 tax 100 and when we're in power

01:13:29.440 that'll be going from 99 to 100 so we'll just really nickel and dime yeah literally no visas

01:13:35.180 no nothing you don't even get to visit this country no remittances and possibly a couple

01:13:39.800 of gunships do we have any gunships left pakistan has coastal waters for christ's sake anyway the 0.99

01:13:45.060 next stupid thing again just ridiculous nonsense is the courts are completely out of control in 0.96

01:13:50.680 this country right so the latest the latest thing is the british people are no longer allowed to 0.99

01:13:55.860 call americans yanks because a court ruling has made this racial harassment i didn't even see this

01:14:01.120 that's part of our culture what if i want to racially harass the yanks i called the yankee

01:14:07.440 on twitter just recently i didn't know it's not a crime but and so here we are with being a total

01:14:13.020 yank but what this is emblematic of is the top-down control of the language that we have in this

01:14:18.440 country the use of language i mean there was a thing a few years ago where you you're not allowed

01:14:23.340 to be uh you're not allowed to call the welsh sheep shaggers because that was racial harassment

01:14:28.460 now it's not the one i'd lead with because i'm from cumbria so i wouldn't i wouldn't open with

01:14:32.620 it because it could be used back on me so easily but of course it should be allowed we can't call

01:14:38.280 the french frogs and the germans yeah there's no end to it but the point is this is this is the

01:14:42.540 current situation that we're in where like really trivial banter is being policed by the status

01:14:48.920 quo and it's like oh great that's great so it's the kind of thing starman likes to list in his

01:14:53.000 achievements like here's all the things it's like we increased workers like it's like you made loads

01:14:56.900 of stupid laws and banned loads of things yeah and you made it harder to employ people but it's 0.72

01:15:00.880 because it's hard to actually do anything they list all these made-up things 17 year olds can't 0.99

01:15:05.080 scroll on tiktok right midnight right it's like there's an achievement it's like you haven't done

01:15:08.680 anything what if the 17 year old works nights sorry probably doing him a favor tibia so you

01:15:14.220 know sure that in tiktok you know not the worst you know it's only destroying the minds of the

01:15:17.940 younger generation or any social media though you know it's like you can't go on facebook and

01:15:21.380 message your mum at 1201 you know if you're like mum i need you to pick me up from work you know

01:15:25.720 you can't do that and that argument works if there's any standards in the culture do you know

01:15:31.800 i mean if there's any indication that labor actually want to preserve you know the modesty

01:15:36.440 and the integrity of anyone but it's just constant slop fed it as a whole time but but now young

01:15:42.040 people can't go on so in an ideal world right obviously we know social media tiktok reels

01:15:47.380 it's all been engineered millions tens of millions has been have been invested into making this as

01:15:53.140 addictive as possible with the consequence being attention uh attention spans being absolutely

01:15:57.400 eradicated so if it was like you know a nice wholesome government we trusted saying all right

01:16:02.980 you know maybe it's time to put a limit of it perhaps that would be trusted but also what is

01:16:06.820 tiktok it's uh and a lot of short-form content especially instagram it's a nexus of right-wing

01:16:11.480 propaganda it's a nexus of our garfa edits and you know it might be small it might seem a little

01:16:16.720 bit immature but it does have an effect and they were clearly intimidated by if they're going to

01:16:20.240 ban it yeah it's the people telling us that you can decide what gender you are and you can vote

01:16:24.460 but you can't go on social media it's like you don't care about children's welfare because you 0.90

01:16:28.240 want to mutilate them with puberty block we will send you to the front line in ukraines yeah

01:16:32.100 the next thing is

01:16:34.220 Andy Burnham

01:16:34.780 we're getting

01:16:36.020 Andy Burnham's

01:16:37.040 woke lefty government

01:16:38.300 it's actually going to be

01:16:39.480 insanely left wing

01:16:40.480 actually

01:16:41.000 here's the

01:16:42.160 as Charlotte Gill points out

01:16:43.480 the new director

01:16:44.340 of political strategy

01:16:45.160 is the current CEO

01:16:46.420 of 38 Degrees

01:16:47.440 which funds

01:16:47.900 the Good Law Project

01:16:48.680 are you familiar

01:16:49.160 with these organisations?

01:16:50.660 I recall the name 0.99

01:16:51.700 they're insane 0.97

01:16:52.840 left wing 0.92

01:16:53.480 advocacy organisations

01:16:54.620 and that's all they do

01:16:56.680 and Burnham's like

01:16:58.500 yeah I'm going to put

01:16:58.980 them in government

01:16:59.560 yeah

01:17:00.340 brilliant

01:17:01.240 he's got two hope not hate hires he does as uh conor tomlinson points out uh the former director

01:17:07.300 of hope not hate is a political director of political strategy in 10 downing street and

01:17:11.620 allison phillips the current board member of hope not hate as his director of transition

01:17:14.920 amazing we have a hope not hate occupied government at this point i mean that's absolutely

01:17:20.620 terrifying because of course hope not hate exists to you know same in line with searchlight right

01:17:24.820 they exist to harass

01:17:26.720 nationalists, patriots

01:17:28.680 that's not just

01:17:31.200 nationalists, that's a small sliver of the people

01:17:33.220 they harass everyone from the right 0.98

01:17:35.140 of Liz Truss onwards

01:17:36.620 moderates like me had a

01:17:39.300 hit piece trying to get me sat from GB News

01:17:40.980 sensible satiasts like myself

01:17:42.360 sensible moderates

01:17:43.560 Nigel Farage and all the reformed people have been in there

01:17:46.860 Priti Patel was in there

01:17:48.180 Elon Musk, yeah, Suella Brabman 0.90

01:17:50.380 go to the gamut

01:17:52.300 and way beyond nationalists as well

01:17:55.040 So it's just like everything to the right of Karl Marx

01:17:58.220 is targeted by hope, not hate.

01:18:00.000 I know someone who actually had gone to one of their conferences

01:18:03.040 a little bit undercover just as Snoop.

01:18:05.040 And he'd been there quite a few times,

01:18:08.260 so he was on good terms, right?

01:18:10.300 People trust him.

01:18:11.280 And he just made some innocuous comment just to the effect of,

01:18:14.560 well, what if we actually can't house all these people?

01:18:16.360 What if we don't have enough houses?

01:18:17.440 And it was real like, you know, walking to the saloon moment.

01:18:20.820 Oh, no, they were like enemy.

01:18:22.040 Looking at him.

01:18:22.720 yeah but they literally do generally think farage is fascist it's not even propaganda too it's not 1.00

01:18:28.340 exaggeration these people are mentally ill i agree i think those people these people are mentally ill 0.91

01:18:34.340 but it's got to the point now where it's like right okay so we've we've got this left-wing 0.98

01:18:38.900 hope not hate occupied government we are in a position where the democratic process itself

01:18:44.380 is basically something that nobody really respects right andy burnham is claiming this

01:18:49.380 giant mandate on 25 000 votes in makerfield uh sorry to tell you i don't give a i'm not as well

01:18:54.760 i don't care what people in makerfield vote for i think they might be wrong in fact to vote for

01:18:59.020 annie burnham but nobody seems to care and when nigel ferrari's like okay i'm going to call this

01:19:03.300 by-election okay everyone treats it like it's a giant joke and it's like right yeah i think it

01:19:08.460 was william clusam was saying to me they just they had a chance to depose a very unpopular prime

01:19:13.180 minister and they took it so you were suddenly offered this unique opportunity if you're in

01:19:16.680 makerfield to get rid of the hated starmer minus 42 approval rating doesn't really mean anything

01:19:21.340 for the rest of the country it's sort of it was a one-off freak event yeah it doesn't mean burnham

01:19:25.080 has any kind of mandate he doesn't he won't be accepted by the people in the same way that

01:19:28.620 gordon brown wasn't and rishi student that wasn't and it's almost certain that they selected

01:19:32.460 makefield because they had done the analysis and knew that'd be the place where he'd win

01:19:35.920 yeah he was he was never going to lose there as far as they were concerned i mean it's always

01:19:39.500 voted labor but now he's he's going to bring in a proportional representation he's going to bring

01:19:43.680 in a bunch of communists to be part of his team and it's just like right okay is this what anyone

01:19:49.020 voted for and the answer is of course no but they don't care as far as they're concerned they've got 0.91

01:19:53.440 the system wrapped up and therefore they can treat you like clowns in clangton they can they can just

01:19:59.540 do whatever they want and needing democratic legitimacy is becoming something of past

01:20:05.700 generations right they don't seem to care uh and the final thing um was that uh hope not hate for

01:20:11.920 some reason removed their article on Ann Whittakam. Why'd they do that, do you reckon? A long history

01:20:17.560 of homophobic and sexist remarks. Yeah, I was going to post about this. The fact that Ann Whittakam

01:20:22.920 murdered Hope Not Hate post about her. Burnham hires people from Hope Not Hate. It's like,

01:20:27.920 that's a very uncomfortable set of facts. Yeah. He's on the side, he's hiring people who are part

01:20:33.700 of this radical organization that tries to, what, use stochastic terrorism? Or would you say...

01:20:39.960 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

01:20:41.380 Absolutely.

01:20:41.960 The entire purpose of Home Not Hate 1.00

01:20:43.440 is to encourage stochastic terrorism

01:20:44.860 against the right wing. 0.96

01:20:46.300 It's to say, no, these are all evil people,

01:20:48.500 and literally any one of them

01:20:50.300 is essentially outside of the moral law,

01:20:53.860 as in it's fine to do X to any of them.

01:20:56.400 And again, the taking down of the Ann Widdicombe article

01:20:59.960 is kind of an admission of this.

01:21:03.040 Right, yeah, right.

01:21:04.000 Otherwise, that's the problem.

01:21:05.820 Yeah.

01:21:06.080 Yeah.

01:21:06.660 Yes.

01:21:07.620 And this just shows,

01:21:08.940 Burnham would always sort of like, oh, I'm going to be the prime minister for everyone, not just the North and blah, blah.

01:21:12.660 It's like, you don't mean anyone very, very slightly to the right.

01:21:17.180 You mean your little coalition, bin face, Gary Lineker with your cosy interview, hope not hate.

01:21:22.940 You don't mean the country.

01:21:23.900 You're going to do exactly what the last several people have done.

01:21:26.900 You're going to do it worse and just cater to this little, what, this little coterie of leftist nutters, basically,

01:21:34.200 who sort of pose as centrist as, but are actually quite radical.

01:21:36.720 someone like Gary Lineker, the sort of weirdly radical, the radicalised centrist dad, really.

01:21:42.080 Listen to Lineker on things like Gaza, and he just sounds insane. 0.99

01:21:44.940 Oh, he's a madman.

01:21:45.960 The Labour Party are trying to do, I think, a lot of major plays with this kind of premiership they have, right? 0.94

01:21:52.000 They're going for proportional representation because they want to try to retain their power.

01:21:55.960 So if they first pass the post, it's still very likely that reform would sweep.

01:21:59.540 And if reform sweep, they'll possibly, maybe, do a little bit of the changes that would be necessary.

01:22:04.320 Even if they don't sweep, they'll still do better than the Labour Party.

01:22:07.500 And they'll probably have enough support if there are, you know,

01:22:09.300 however many Restore or Tory MPs there may be.

01:22:11.840 They would probably be at least voting in favour with a lot of what reform would do,

01:22:15.380 so they'd have a lot of power.

01:22:16.580 But by going towards proportional representation,

01:22:19.020 it's going to completely block out any sort of right-wing party.

01:22:21.720 Even probably reform, like maybe they could do coalitions with the Tories,

01:22:25.220 but Restore will basically be with Sona non grata.

01:22:28.620 The advantage of proportional representation is

01:22:31.680 i think we will get more right-wing mps right as an actual right-wing mps um but there will never

01:22:37.800 be enough to form a coalition as you say uh and so okay we might have a couple of loud voices in

01:22:42.900 parliament um but we'll never get an actual government that can do anything whereas on the

01:22:47.080 first part of the post i think it's completely possible that we get some kind even if it's

01:22:51.560 nigel farage as milk toasters everyone thinks he is uh that would still be an advantage that would

01:22:57.600 be a step up of having andy burnham or kirsten or whatever right so basically we're screwed

01:23:03.420 if he does that yeah he claimed he wasn't going to do it didn't he before the next election

01:23:07.200 but of course that's yeah no that means nothing the same for years he's completely committed to

01:23:11.740 it yeah so it's just you know and now he's the prime minister he's not going to do it oh okay

01:23:15.260 you know it completely rejigs a lot of political strategy and campaigning as well because if it

01:23:19.780 is just going to be a case of um you know however well known you are right that's how many votes

01:23:24.220 you get it's going to do well for obviously you know parties like restore where rupert lowe is

01:23:28.880 incredibly well known and he certainly would get around possibly about nine percent that's going

01:23:32.760 to be a lot of mps but you're going to get a similar situation as to what you have in germany

01:23:37.360 where i think the afd is the biggest party in parliament it'll probably grow but they cannot

01:23:43.200 form a government because no one will work with them and all the other parties you know from

01:23:47.340 communist conservatives have said yeah we'll form a rainbow coalition which in a way does play into 0.58

01:23:52.660 the afd's hands because it now just means whenever something goes wrong it's never their fault and

01:23:57.220 that's why they're still continuing to grow and gain power i know you're right i mean that's a

01:24:00.140 random name is sent in a super chat saying what does democratic legitimacy even mean at this point

01:24:04.980 as our nation's been so diluted the democracy genuinely means nothing what is the demos

01:24:09.500 uh that great question i'm not going to be able to answer here obviously for the time

01:24:13.020 but um but this but the thing is the way they're acting kind of reveals all of this right as in

01:24:18.920 they're just they're just cavalier about it they don't care like they they they feel that they're

01:24:22.720 in a position where they can just openly flaunt their lack of interest in what the people of

01:24:28.080 clackton actually think for example they're gonna be totally disrespectful to an entire constituency 0.82

01:24:32.260 and say not a problem uh and just swan off you know endorsing the bin candidate it's just like

01:24:40.020 i don't know there's something about what's happening at the moment that just feels like

01:24:44.020 a transitional phase to a full-on public meltdown to me like i i mean i i saw like i think it was

01:24:49.640 liz truff said look andy burnham is going to cause an economic crisis i think that's obviously true

01:24:54.360 right andy burnham clearly is because he's come out and give this speech oh we're going to

01:24:57.760 nationalize everything we're going to pay for this pay for that it's like we haven't got any money

01:25:01.000 andy we're fucking broke uh so i and i think he doesn't really understand how things work 0.81

01:25:06.060 so i think i think we're screwed basically is uh in the short term but on the plus side i'm 0.94

01:25:11.100 something of an accelerationist so let's just push through this and get to the end anyway uh

01:25:15.780 russian says uh if england loses its clinic because of not enough diversity which is true

01:25:20.480 um england aren't playing for the glory of england these days they're playing to improve

01:25:25.840 their league transfer fees for next season what do you make of that um i think that's that that's

01:25:31.960 something what the lionesses were saying you know we've got the english balloons they think they're

01:25:35.900 playing for the glory of england yeah i mean there's something in that the idea the sort of

01:25:39.860 the link between the way the world cup looks now and the globalized premier league and yeah i mean

01:25:46.820 yeah and there's a focus on club football meaning more than the international it depends what you

01:25:50.480 mean though the individual players certainly do care and do want to win for england so i don't

01:25:54.720 know i hate to be so centrist today uh between duolipo being intellectual and emily ratajkowski

01:26:04.540 being contemplative

01:26:05.820 this really is

01:26:07.300 the fall of civilization

01:26:08.320 is that

01:26:09.500 what's this

01:26:10.580 Emily Ratajka

01:26:11.320 she's always

01:26:12.220 I can't remember

01:26:12.800 exactly what it refers to

01:26:14.160 but she's that one 0.96

01:26:14.760 that was in the 0.78

01:26:15.300 blurred lines 0.99

01:26:16.220 she's like the hot girl 1.00

01:26:17.160 from blurred lines 0.99

01:26:17.900 but now she'll pop up

01:26:19.380 with like 1.00

01:26:19.860 why it's feminist 1.00

01:26:21.080 to be naked all the time 1.00

01:26:22.280 you know

01:26:22.480 it's sort of

01:26:22.820 that kind of vanity

01:26:24.060 of like

01:26:24.560 you're famous 0.99

01:26:25.200 because you got your boobs 0.99

01:26:26.200 out in a video 0.99

01:26:26.780 but you have to pretend

01:26:27.960 to be an intellectual

01:26:28.720 sort of thing

01:26:29.280 I thought she was 1.00

01:26:29.820 a tennis player 1.00

01:26:30.720 no

01:26:32.420 this is the model

01:26:33.340 is that

01:26:34.340 You're talking about Raducanu.

01:26:35.920 Oh, I don't bloody know.

01:26:37.240 This is the girl who was in the Blurred Lines video

01:26:39.580 who's a model.

01:26:40.480 Oh, right.

01:26:41.320 Okay, I had no idea.

01:26:42.660 I thought it was the tennis player.

01:26:43.980 No, that's Emma Raducanu.

01:26:46.060 I'm glad you know all of these things.

01:26:47.940 I know everything.

01:26:48.700 Yeah, because I don't know any of them.

01:26:50.120 I know all the exact things you don't know.

01:26:51.140 It's a perfect end diagram for today.

01:26:51.740 Yeah, that's interesting.

01:26:52.860 Dream team.

01:26:55.360 Anyway, right.

01:26:56.140 So, where was I?

01:26:58.700 There we go.

01:26:59.760 Michael says,

01:27:00.580 it sounds like a Monty Python skit

01:27:01.780 from the show in the 60s.

01:27:03.020 When I saw it, I thought it was a joke.

01:27:04.340 I'm quite literally watching this happen in real time, 0.99

01:27:06.020 referring to Camp Binface. 1.00

01:27:08.240 Instead of Mastermind,

01:27:09.400 I want a bunch of Labour MPs on Taskmaster.

01:27:12.220 I've never heard of this.

01:27:13.920 It's an awful show that comedians I used to know do.

01:27:17.580 I've never watched it. 0.99

01:27:19.500 Arizona Desert Rat, who is American,

01:27:21.320 says Americans call themselves Yanks.

01:27:23.760 Yeah, but this...

01:27:24.440 Well, we can't use that one.

01:27:25.420 Exactly. 1.00

01:27:25.940 It's the Y word, isn't it?

01:27:27.300 You know, we're not allowed to...

01:27:29.300 They're owning it against their oppression.

01:27:32.880 Economic Zone 17 says,

01:27:34.020 It's all changed in UK politics. 0.98

01:27:35.320 Out Blairite commie traitor, in commie Blairite traitor. 0.96

01:27:38.360 Well, that's the thing, right? 0.87

01:27:39.860 Andy Burnham, I don't think, is actually a Blairite.

01:27:42.460 I think he is just happy to go along with basically whatever it is

01:27:45.440 that gets further towards the left.

01:27:47.100 I tried to make a plus today, didn't he, in the speech.

01:27:49.820 He said, you know, there's that joke about Burnham walks into a bar

01:27:52.900 and he tried to change it to, yeah, it's because I just welcome all views in the party.

01:27:56.260 Yes.

01:27:56.620 It's not because I'm a scheming opportunist who doesn't have any real opinions.

01:28:00.100 But, like, I genuinely think we'll miss Starmer

01:28:02.940 because starmer cared about the integrity of the system and i think that burnham generally is that

01:28:07.660 idealistic things were better in the 70s and it's like yeah but they weren't they were absolutely

01:28:13.280 atrocious like anyone who knows anything like my dad is a lifelong conservative voter was until

01:28:18.300 recently he's got more right wing but like he for like most of his adult life he's a lifelong

01:28:22.120 conservative voter because he remembers rubbish piling up in the streets and the three-day work

01:28:26.760 week and the power going off intermittently when he was a kid or when he was young um so he's like

01:28:31.560 no i'm never voting for labor because that's what labor produced and annie burnham's like oh yeah

01:28:35.560 the good old days it's like okay okay great we're bringing that back are we well if you want

01:28:42.340 accelerations and that's what you want isn't it you want the power to go out like south africa and

01:28:46.400 that will really wake people up because people really like their power in this country they're

01:28:50.520 not used to i can't go on the internet between four and eight you know what i mean that that

01:28:54.780 will shake people up you'd hope but who knows i'm not an accelerations because i don't believe in

01:28:59.580 these things i think it was um i think it's murray rothbard quoted via paul gottfried who said

01:29:04.760 worse is worse that's what i believe i don't think acceleration is a very dangerous game it's true but

01:29:09.460 i i honestly i've got to the point now where i think a lot of people really need to have a taste

01:29:14.520 of what they're asking for right like there's there's no point people being like oh yeah well

01:29:19.160 i'm voting for labor because i'm for good things okay let's see how good those things yes but the

01:29:23.940 assumption is that that does something that spurs a counterweight or counteraction that can even do

01:29:29.460 anything and if we're just saying the system stitched up in various ways maybe i just want

01:29:34.120 to suffer yeah but you'll suffer as well so it's like homer when he says flanders also has to wear

01:29:39.380 the dress he's like you'd have to do it too he's like yeah so and they both do it because homer's

01:29:43.460 like wants him to suffer but then he has to wear it as well i don't know if you've ever seen that

01:29:46.800 one but i haven't seen that one but that's fine i do uh firmly believe that people do need to see

01:29:51.640 the problems firsthand to wake up to them so i mean if you you know you can think back you know

01:29:56.180 50 years for example right where were places where were parties like the national front

01:30:00.200 popular it was mainly in the east end of london leicester birmingham they never had any electoral

01:30:04.480 victories but we did quite well in fact actually a split event the national party immediately won

01:30:09.160 two councillors uh in blackburn in 1976 there you go but in in the spaces where there were real

01:30:15.680 problems with exactly because these areas were you know completely flooded with uh people from

01:30:20.380 south asian backgrounds right and you can also look at where did the bmp have their first electoral

01:30:24.820 victory tower hamlets that doesn't surprise people where did they have the biggest strengths

01:30:29.580 um burnley they were the main opposition in burnley they won something ridiculous like 13

01:30:35.240 council elections in barking dagenham on a single night and the labor councils were literally in

01:30:40.160 tears over it well of course you know when the bmp was in its heyday you'd only find out about

01:30:45.620 the sort of thing if you went to bmp.org it's not like now where we've got elon's obviously bought

01:30:49.020 x and you go on x one day and what do you see a migrant's trying to decapitate someone

01:30:54.620 you're finding out about the next killing or the next league rigby imitation you'd only find out

01:30:58.580 about if you lived in the local area exactly anyway um right so we are out of time uh kai

01:31:03.340 where can people go to find more from you so people can come and find me at kai stevens yt

01:31:08.220 and i'm a member and i'm a candidate for the british democrats in the clacton by-election

01:31:12.620 we are a community politics nationalist party explicitly nationalist and yeah if you're perhaps

01:31:19.280 thinking restore may be a little bit too soft maybe you can look to us but no um outside of

01:31:24.040 yeah it's everything thank you thanks for joining us and we'll see you in half an hour for lads

01:31:28.060 hour dan has been preparing something very special how to survive any situation so that'll be fun

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 17, 2026

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