The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1467
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Summary
It's the 22nd of July and the lads are back with another episode of Lotus Season. This week, we're talking about the new Home Secretary, Keir Starmer, and the Iran war in Persia. We also have a new limited edition copy of Islander, a limited edition hardback copy of which is available to buy today.
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hello and welcome to podcast of the lotus eaters it is episode 1467 it is the 22nd of july
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year of our lord 2026 and i'm drawn by beau who looks like he's just about to walk into a top
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end hotel and buy it very smart well done thank you and uh special guest connor hello am i that
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special yes i appreciate it yes special i mean special as in nice to have you not
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you know we don't we're not worried about you licking the windows or anything no they're
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Right, and today we're going to be talking about,
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we're all going to be talking about the hope not hatification of the cabinet.
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Oh, I'm going to be talking about, yes, how, you know,
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that tipping point thing where it all just gets worse from here.
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We told you it's going to be wrapped up in two weeks.
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Spoiler alert, we don't like Watchmen very much.
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slightly autistic video coming out about that.
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to the Conservative government and Keir Starmer, and it's about to get a lot worse under Andy
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Burnham. So I suppose it's appropriate that the latest edition of Islander has, like a doomsday
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clock, Big Ben's or the Elizabeth Towers clockface at five minutes to midnight. And you can get this
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limited edition copy of Islander over at lotuseaters.com. Buy it before copies run out.
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If you don't know what I'm referring to, yesterday, Shabana Mahmood and Wes Riesing
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caught on a hot mic laughing about the new Justice Secretary's plan to release in September
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urgently reviewed by Burnham, we are assured, but this
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dragged a police officer behind their car to death.
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Yeah, they think it's hilarious they want to unleash more violent criminals on your neighbourhood.
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How are you supposed to feel if your loved one was a victim of one of these people
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Well, you're meant to feel the exact same way as the government wants you to,
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Because at the same time, the outgoing Justice Secretary, David Lammy,
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Britain's very own mastermind, has been trying to block a friend of the show,
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Rob Bates and the Centre for Migration Control's Freedom of Information requests
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into the crimes committed by foreigners by nationality and type.
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oh, the Ministry of Justice doesn't want to do this
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because it could disclose private information of criminals
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and it'd be really expensive to compile the data.
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The court said, well, no, that's a silly excuse.
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how could these ghouls be laugh-cackling about it?
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So, Lammy's been replaced by a guy called Alex Norris,
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But I suppose you don't really need any experience
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I mean, honestly, Larry the Cat would make a better,
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Shabana Mahmood and West Streeting responded to this clip
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because you'd expect it to be pretty damning, right?
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I think everyone can see there was no ill intent
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behind this ribbing of the new Lord Chancellor.
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cackling like the Wicked Witch of the West
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considering she's just instituted new safe and legal routes
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I hope everyone can see there was no ill intent.
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Somebody got a text message from the Cabinet Office saying,
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I hope nobody understands there's any ill intent here.
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So Shabana Mahmood has remained as Home Secretary
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These are just sort of the front-facing salesmen
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for the policies that the state wants to do already, right?
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Let's look at who's in Burnham's Downing Street that very few people are paying attention to.
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So this account has compiled a very good thread, and I've done some research myself into these
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figures that I'm just going to ad-lib as we go through. But these particular figures,
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pictured with Zoran Mamdani here when he was campaigning, curiously enough,
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are now working through Andy Burnham in Downing Street. The guy circled in red here is Ali
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Milani, good British name. He was a Labour candidate in 2019. He produced Andy Burnham's
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digital content for the Makerfield campaigns, you know, when he was walking along the road to
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Elbow and Oasis. That was this guy. He also chairs the Labour Muslim network. He's now working
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directly in Downing Street for Burnham. I think there's a photo of him, actually. Oh no, that's
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his wonderful article. There he is, stood outside Downing Street just the other day. He did write
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this article last year in the midst of the grooming gang scandal being covered up by the
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Labour government for the Middle East. I quote, grooming gangs, this vile racist campaign puts
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Muslims in serious danger. Muslims are true victims of industrial-scale child rape,
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covered up by his parents. Yes, 12-year-old gets raped by 30 men
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over the course of a year. Muslims most affected. Yeah. I mean, it does track, because while,
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you know, he's the chair of the Labour Muslim Network, Labour Muslim Network has said,
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asking Muslims to disavow Hamas is rooted in Islamophobia. So, you know, murderous,
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rapist, terrorist organisation. If you say, oh, they're a bit dodgy, aren't they? You're an
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Islamophobe. He's also agitating to strengthen the government's definition of Islamophobia,
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because remember they published their anti-Muslim hatred definition that says,
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if you don't want Muslims in public life or you don't want them financed by the taxpayer,
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that's Islamophobic. Well, he actually complained that there was no mention of race or racism in
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the definition, and so he wants to put that back in, presumably to make it an aggravating
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offence for public order offences, right? Because if you have a statutory definition,
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then it can be statutory guidance and you can be locked up for saying things that offend Muslims.
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This is just a fifth columnist. There's no other definition for it.
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Well, quite literally, because he was flying all around the world.
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I think there's a photo of him in here with AOC and the rest of the squad, actually.
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So he's just been flying around the world with Mamdani, the Progressive International Alliance,
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another theme that pops up in Burnham's inner circle.
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He also then attended the Iftar, the Labour Iftar, very recently as well,
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with Lucy Powell, who is now the new education secretary,
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who previously said the grooming gangs were a racist dog whistle
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So clearly just working on behalf of his religion
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with a broader coalition of the marginalised, the oppressed.
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Also, there's another woman working with him.
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She's best friends with Zahra Sultana and Naz Shah.
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She of, quote, retweeting the Owen Jones parody account
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that says, shut your mouth for the good of diversity, fame.
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She's worked with the Muslim Council of Britain.
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Oh, and then the other guy was working with the Muslim Association of Britain,
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were apparently set up and run by the Muslim Brotherhood.
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What are these people doing in our government?
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She was also agitating for a Palestinian refugee pathway into Britain,
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which, of course, Shaman Mahmood is currently introducing.
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So in case you were worried about it getting better, don't worry.
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It gets a whole lot worse because there's a list in Politico
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He was also a Labour shadow minister, I believe.
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and he's now going to be at the top of Burnham's team. He's already been discussing transition
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talks. Not that kind of transition, though, you know, looking at Andy Burnham, you'd be forgiven
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for making that mistake. He's been discussing that with Cabinet Secretary Dame Antonio Romeo,
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the Queen of Woke herself, who is the most senior civil servant in the land and was pictured with
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Burnham, I think, at either today or yesterday's meeting as well. Then there's Graham Cook. He's
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going to be the director of Number 10's policy unit. He's already been an advisor in Downing
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Street, so they're keeping on Starmer's people. Harvey Redgrave, who's the unit's current chief,
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will stay on in a new Home Affairs and Justice Special Advisor role, so he's the one that's
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supervising immigration and the release of the prisoners, so we know who to blame for that.
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Then there's Hayden Munro. Hayden Munro won't be a name that sticks out to people in this country,
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but they will in New Zealand politics, because Hayden has been a former campaign director for
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Jacinda Ardern. So again, we've got the International Progressive Network, Zora Mandani
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and America and the squad, Jacinda Rardin. We had labour activists flying out during the last US
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election to try and campaign for Kamala Harris, for example. These people are part of one big
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well-financed club that's governing our countries in all the same way, and we're all getting the
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same consequences, which is mass immigration, economic ruin, and the denial of our identity
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and our claim to our own country. And these people are being rewarded for it. I'm going to skip over
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one name, because we'll come back to him in a moment, Mr. Matthew McGregor. I'll go straight
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And then there's a woman detailed in Politics Home here called Alison Phillips.
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Now, for those who are keen Daily Mirror readers,
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you might know Alison Phillips as the editor of the Daily Mirror from 2018 to 2024.
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Of course, that was a publication that, you know,
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So they're just like Labour's personal spin unit.
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another name that will come up later because he's just been recycled as a cabinet minister,
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Think Labour, you might think, is a new think tank,
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which got Keir Starmer delivered into government
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who stood down in Makerfield to allow Andy Burnham to run.
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to spy on journalists that were writing negative stories
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with the well-organised groups that seek to undermine our social fabric,
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and crucially, he discusses what must be done about it.
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Now, Hope Not Hate, as has been named in a Swedish government report
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Hope Not Hate essentially exists as a doxing website
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Well, the ultimate outcome they want is the Ann Widdicombe murder.
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As I mentioned later, they deleted and archived their page on Ann Widdicombe.
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I wonder if that's because it turned up in the search history of the killer.
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It's just moral blackmail to put you in the crosshairs
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because if you say, well, they shouldn't be in the country
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or they should be in prison, they'll just call you a racist
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The person who also promoted Nick Lowell's book on his substack,
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which positively twos of people read, is Mr. Matthew McGregor.
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Now, Matthew McGregor is mentioned in this Politics Home article.
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it's also mentioned in the previous Politico article, Matthew McGregor has been hired as
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Burnham's director of political strategy. So the entire operation is going to be run according to
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what Matthew McGregor thinks. He is the chief executive of the 38 Degrees campaign, which
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regularly attends Carol Vorderman's events in London, according to Charlotte Gill, and has
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also funded the Good Law Project. Remember, what was her awful name? Gina Miller, the one that
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tried to sabotage the Brexit deal? Yeah, that's her organisation. They're constantly agitating for,
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puberty blockers be given to children as well. He was also a senior executive in Hope Not Hate
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and worked on Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign. He also, according to this reporting
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in The Spectator, he's also involved in another charity which agitates to prevent for the stripping
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of citizenship from ISIS brides. So as Noah Hoffman reports here, he is appointed to the
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board of the charity reprieve has been there since april 2022 it aggressively lobbies the uk
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government to abolish citizenship stripping and it says the practice is brutal and harmful and says
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this uk policy is fundamentally racist only people with foreign ties can have their citizenship taken
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away duh obviously actually well the only the only example that i can think of is that british guy
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So actually, no, they are stripping citizenship
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from the native people, not the fifth column.
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They're complaining that the power has been used
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They also boast of fighting to help our clients in northeast Syria to regain their citizenship.
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So all the ISIS defectors that are milling about with Shemima Begum in the middle of the desert,
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they're the ones that have been silently working to bring them back.
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And some of them have been brought back, according to the people that interviewed Shemima Begum before.
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And they're trying to challenge the toxic narrative that women detained in Syria are ISIS brides.
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Well, they married ISIS fighters and they would party to the beheadings and had their children.
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So I think ISIS bride is a pretty accurate descriptor.
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But this is the guy that Andy Burnham wants to put as his chief executive.
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is because he led the campaign against the Brexit party in 2019 for Hope Not Hate.
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So he was the one that was tasked with fighting Farage personally.
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So this guy is going to be in charge of 10 Downing Street.
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This guy's going to be in charge of 10 Downing Street after,
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as we've already mentioned, Hope Not Hate removed their page on Ann Widdicombe
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after her murder being hit 21 times in the head with a hammer wielded by a communist.
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because they had a pretty clean sweep at the MEP elections.
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Well, yeah, but, I mean, come the general election,
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Yeah, which is why it was an absolutely appalling mistake
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names particularly but yeah i guess i guess they've been chucked into the oubliette of
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political obscurity by hope not hate and richard tice himself uh very silly thing to do gents
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it's also after in the latter days of starma's premiership remember that the uk government wants
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to annex the youtube algorithm and determine who is authoritative so now the government that's
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doing that is now run entirely by hope not hate operatives they're not the only one though um i
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just want to point out that mr mcgregor is um particularly vexed about anti-semitism and he
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did a series of podcasts and the like with Ruth Smeeth, who we've discussed before, Bo. Many people
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won't know who Ruth Smeeth is, but she is a senior Labour baroness. Back in 2016, she gave the
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following interview to Sky News and detailed that she is, before getting elected, been involved in
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running Hope Not Hate and has seen politicians for decades use vile, hateful political rhetoric,
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the BNP, now UKIP, you've just been talking about Donald Trump in the States. So evil hate-filled
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rhetoric hasn't gone away. So, you know, our American partners are going to find this new
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government pretty much impossible to work with because everybody from Mandy Burnham to Ruth
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Smith to Hope Not Hate themselves have had it out for Donald Trump. And so God knows how they're
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going to negotiate, especially with Ed Miliband as foreign secretary as well, who just, you know,
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spurts out about Trump at every available opportunity. Ruth Smith is the worst.
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Why is that? She's the worst. A true sort of foreign agent or something.
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How dare you accuse a woman of being a foreign agent who, according to her own Wikipedia page, worked as the Director of Public Affairs and Campaigns at the Britain-Israel Communications and Research Centre, also worked for the Community Security Trust and for the Board of Deputies of British Jews.
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Oh, and was also named in a 2009 US communique as a trusted source to strictly protect, because she leaked details that Gordon Brown might call an early election to US intelligence.
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I couldn't possibly say that she'd been working with foreign countries there,
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especially with an agenda that, you know, doesn't quite serve our interests.
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Burnham seems to have surrounded himself with a cabal of truly subversive traitors.
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You need at least 9 out of 10 on your subversion or traitor stat
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because Ruth Smith was deputy director of Hope Not Hate from 2010 to 2015
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and then a trustee of its charitable trust until July 2024.
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She was then replaced, when she stepped down, by Gemma Levine, who is the chief operating officer of Morgan McSweeney's Center for Countering Digital Hate.
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If you remember, Center for Countering Digital Hate, especially for our American viewers and those in the Trump administration, it's headed up by this guy.
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This is Imran Ahmed, who the State Department attempted to remove his permanent resident status last year and deport him.
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Yeah, unfortunately he's still stuck there because a British national, although obviously he's not British, can use the US legal system to force US government to keep him in the US despite him trying to undermine US free speech and democracy.
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And if you think that's a heavy charge, I mean, the Centre for Countering Digital Hate did work expressly to, quote, kill Musk's ex in the run-up to the last US election using Senator Amy Klobuchar's...
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We must protect children from, you know, online.
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It's all just a subversive way of getting rid of Twitter.
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haven't exactly been protecting children online.
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Turns out that Keir Starmer decided to appoint her
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And then she was appointed the Parliamentary Secretary for the Cabinet Office by Keir Starmer.
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So she is one of the most senior figures in Cabinet.
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So if we go down, they're on the website, just down here.
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There she is, Baroness Anderson, formerly Smith, of Stoke-on-Trent,
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accompanied by the Right Honourable Hamish Falconer.
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Yes, son of Lord Falconer, Blair's lawyer, friend of Peter Mandelson, obsessed with assisted life.
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Yes, the Iraq War is completely legal because reasons.
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Yeah, so basically, Bruce Smith, hope not hate, scion.
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is one of the most senior figures in the Cabinet,
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alongside Andy Burnham's Director of Political Operations,
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Matthew McGregor, who is one of the most senior figures in Hope Not Hate.
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Oh, and the other woman as well, who is a senior figure in Hope Not Hate.
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Oh, and funnily enough as well, is she on here?
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Well, Anna Turley, I think she was on the website this morning, actually.
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sort of tread on some contentious ground here. It's not just Hope Not Hate that these figures
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are involved with. Hope Not Hate seems inextricably connected, not just with the Home Office and the
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intelligence services, but also Jewish labour. And Jewish labour is, of course, the vehicle that
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Keir Starmer used to unseat Jeremy Corbyn on the accusations of anti-Semitism. And it seems to me
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like these are absolutely reprehensible people with a penchant for hiring violent thugs like
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Matthew Collins over at Hope Not Hate, who praised Stalin's Red Army in 2013 and also admitted to
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attacking and hospitalising Asian women with a hammer. No, I don't know about you. Yeah,
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live on breakfast television. There's a clip out there. It's in my most recent video on my channel.
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I don't know about you, but I have never been in a Nazi party, then literally a member of the
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Communist Party, praised the genocidal dictator and attacked women with a hammer. But he has,
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and hope not hate, which is now being rewarded by the current and previous government,
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thinks that he is a respectable person to determine what is and isn't radical.
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is because Ruth Smith was actually running Jewish Labour
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Mike Katz, who was given a peerage by Keir Starmer,
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of the Jewish Labour movement from April to November 2019,
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when she, of course, lost her seat in the election.
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Margaret Hodge, who is a name that people might remember,
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I think she's been appointed, was it Starmer's like one of his anti-corruption people or something?
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She was elected as Labour MP's, she was the Labour MP for Barking and Dagenham,
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And then somewhere on here, there is a list of names.
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Oh, the policy officer elected was Liron Velleman.
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to talk about how to keep children safe online.
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Meanwhile, he was... I can't remember what it was.
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Was he actually texting some nine-year-old or something, wasn't it?
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A 13-year-old caught in a police sting and he sent explicit images.
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But he was working for Ruth Smith and Hope Not Hate,
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who have now been rewarded to the most senior positions
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He's also not the only reprobate involved,
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because when the Jewish Labour movement were hosting events
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there's Margaret Hodge at the front, there's Mike Katz,
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And one of their events, hosted in conversation with Gabriel Pogrand, who authored the book on Jeremy Corbyn's tenure, was in conversation with Lord Peter Mandelson in an event titled, and I am not making this up, Bedtime Horror Stories.
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best friend of the world's most famous pedophile
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they're just playing musical chairs with the same people
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So it's actually, yeah, it's going to get worse,
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But the final one I wanted to mention in connection with Mandelson
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is, of course, Wes Streeting, who we mentioned earlier.
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Because Wes Streeting is now the Secretary of State for Defence,
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Maybe he just wants to get closer to the lads in uniform.
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I mean, it's mad that he's the Secretary of State for Defence
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when he can't even defend his own buttocks.
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I think Jonathan Reynolds has been given a new job, by the way.
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He is Secretary of State for Business, Innovation, Science and Trade,
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I wanted to mention this because Reynolds is also the former head of Labour Friends of Israel.
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And I'm not raising this just to be edgy or anything.
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I'm just saying these people have used anti-Semitism as a kind of deflector shield
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to deflect away from their horrible politics and their quite reprehensible behaviour.
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Like, sorry, I don't care if your first priority is anti-Semitism
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when you're a communist who employs paedophiles.
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obviously, we know that West Streeting is very connected to Peter Mandelson.
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I mean, he didn't stop bloody texting him, running speeches past him, everything.
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I wanted to bring this up because, obviously, your segment's going to be about Iran war.
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later, and things are seemingly escalating again. Andy Burnham has said he's going to continue the
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policy that Starmer sort of snuck through later on of allowing the US to use Britain's bases for
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purely defensive strikes. But as things escalate, well, who have we got in charge? We've got people
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from Hope Not Hate, people from Centre for Countering Digital Hate, but we've also got now
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as our Defence Secretary, Wes Streeting, a close friend of Peter Mandelson. And so that's plugged
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into what seems like, via Bruce Smith and Labour Friends of Israel and Jewish Labour movement,
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essentially a foreign influence network. So now we've got someone who is a node in that network
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sitting atop our defence policy, under the jurisdiction of Andy Burnham and Hope Not Hate.
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So as we're about to enter a wartime scenario, as they're unleashing thousands of criminals,
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as immigration continues to get worse, and as they're about to take control of social media
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and annex the YouTube algorithm, we're run by these people. So pray for us all, it's about to
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Thanks for that, the good people of Makerfield.
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rants. Sorry about that depressing segment. God forbid you ever
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Dan, do you want to do a couple of rumble rants?
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will be your last chance to take your country back.
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Parties better make the most of the opportunity then.
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He also says, when we win, stochastic terrorism
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needs to be prescribed as a terrorist organisation.
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that should be taken up by any of their opponents,
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I'm now going to up the tempo and tell you how we've kind of reached the point of no return.
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July 2026, I discovered in an ONS report, is basically the point where, from now on,
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that only happened in one year as far as i know on record and that was during covid yes well now
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it's a permanent trend from july 2026 onwards that's a permanent trend which basically means
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if you think that the population replacement has been fast to date it's about to get considerably
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faster because now at least before we had a stock of native population that was relatively large
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even though the number of immigrants is going up now the stock of natives is going to be declining
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ever faster and it's also an inverted demographic pyramid yes oh very much so very much so so i
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mean before i uh before i terrify you with that too much the ons report um good news we have a
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new islander out so buy that which is a very collectible item and that will hopefully cheer
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you up a bit but i will take you now to the ons report so um good god what's happened here samson
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could we have that in not not black it's weird there's a there's a dark mode yes we don't want
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dark there we go it's dark enough as it is in this country um yeah right what i what i need is
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ladies and gentlemen there we go content right um component population change uh so the population
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of the uk is projected to increase uh two million uh over the next 10 years yeah that's that's
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mainly because so many people are leaving giving up and leaving um it still accounts for another
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seven million people immigrate so the boris wave that's going to happen all over again
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and by the way that seven million extra people coming to the uk over the next 10 years
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that is a drastically revised down estimate which assumes that the top end of all shabana
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Mahmood's immigration reforms actually work and none of it gets reversed ever. So the most
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optimistic possible scenario is another Boris wave coming in. I, cynical that I am, think that
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the indefinitely to remain extensions are just a marketing ploy to get it over the line with the
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public because the real policy is actually contained in that Fabian document that she
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got inspired from, which is the new safe and legal routes for indefinite numbers of refugees and her
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ethnic kin and co-religionists from the third world so we'll be shocked if it gets rewound
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anyway but it's not going to be less than seven million so it could it could be considered so
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we're going to get at least one boris wave in addition to the one that we've already had
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um if not two or three if we're not somewhat so mystic about that well yeah the boris wave
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six million in six years so yes comparable numbers yeah yeah so it's going to happen again
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at least once um here we go uh 6.4 million people will be born and 6.8 million people will die
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and so if you net all of these out the 7 million coming in and the 5 million uh giving up and just
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leaving the country all of the population growth from this point on all of it is going to be
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immigrants it's going to be third world as that that is going to be the literally the only reason
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the population goes up from this point and also concerning those births as well at the moment
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only 53 percent of all live births in britain are white british and so that number oh yes that
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number goes below 50 by 2031 yeah so that means that in addition to the population growth being
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predominantly from immigration um the additional population replacement level is going to be half
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not british as well yes yes so that's all of that added together would spell disaster for our
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demographic oh yeah so i mean that's a disaster that's the key point i'm making in this from
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this aren't demographics destiny but from this point forward if you so you think you're sitting
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at home and you think that the population replacement has been fast over the last 10 years
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it's going to get faster now because the because the native population is dying off much faster
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than they're being born and so whatever you think if you think the last 10 years was bad it's going
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to get so much worse over the next 10 years because of because of these two factors with
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what you've just talked about with the with the foreign-born births and this is that the stock
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of existing people which is basically because the large boom of generation they're going to be
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dying or faster it's going to happen really quickly from here on in and there's going to
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be at least one more bobbets wave this this is very crude to say but three quarters of all new
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people in britain are going to be non-british yes yeah next 10 years are going to be absolutely
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absolutely transformation why do you think then when steve edgington put it to nigel if he's
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concerned about demographic decline or replacement nigel immediately said no i think it's contradictory
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because in 2021 he came out and responded to the census by saying it's an atrocious that leicester
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luton bradford manchester birmingham and london are all minority white and that's when sajid
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javid said so what and then he seems to have reversed his position yeah um but the thing is
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the worst possible thing you can be called is a racist.
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Well, why does he keep saying it again and again?
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they've recently put out this massive 5,000-word substack
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on his name, which I assume a team of very competent Zoomers
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and how, because they're in demographic decline,
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that they're going to become a mistreated minority.
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but if you don't say it on camera, it doesn't mean anything.
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So he needs to come out and clarify his position very quick,
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and he's clarified his position and says he doesn't care.
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which alludes to the fact that he does recognise it as an issue.
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But every time it's actually put to him in person, he says, no, I don't care.
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If you tally it up, it's probably like three to two, don't care to care.
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So, I mean, he's definitely got a credibility deficit on this.
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I mean, it needs to be shouted from the rooftops 100% of the time.
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Everything else is downstream of that, surely, our demographic replacement.
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Isn't everything else down, isn't that the only existential question of our time?
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I'm glad you asked, actually, because, no, there's more.
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The implications of this are worse than you first might think.
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But yeah, I'll just point out, it says it clearly here,
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net migration is projected to be the only source of population growth
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as deaths are expected to seed burst by 2.5 million.
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So the population change is going to be remarkable from here on.
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Just to say, this can be combated by the fix everything button
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It is possible for countries to forcibly mass re-migrate people
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In fact, today, a couple of different places around the world,
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and throughout history, many, many, many examples of it.
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You just need the political will to actually do it.
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India and Pakistan can manage to pull off, you know, re-migration.
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I mean, Pakistan has presumably got a Pakistani Home Secretary
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just like we have, but they can do it and we can't,
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We also don't need indefinite population growth.
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turn into a grain silo for the detritus of the throne.
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So I'll tell you what, I'll show you what I'm coming to
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because, I mean, actually, if we are going to have the social contract,
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yes so the point of no return has been reached let me take you for what i'm meaning so so these
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are the these are the follow-on implications from what i've been showing you so far britain
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has stopped replacing itself native replacement is the system now that's all it is um the
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replacement accelerator the immigration age trap basically immigrants age as well so it doesn't
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actually so immigration doesn't actually bail you out of the problem of a declining birth rate
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all it does is postpone it a few years and then makes your problem bigger when those immigrants
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that you brought in to give you the population growth also retire it doesn't it doesn't save
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anything uh the upside down population pyramid which is what you what you um correctly identified
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there the welfare state has entered its terminal mathematics on the system that we have it is
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mathematically impossible for the british state not to go bankrupt now it just it just cannot be
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done if if you are the british state and you want to you want to destroy this country literally from
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from july 2026 onwards all you need to do is nothing just maintain the status quo and it will
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collapse it's a mathematical certainty um gdp can rise where the country get poor because we're
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bringing in immigrants because they make an immediate contribution on day one if they're
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if they're paying taxes assume we even get ones who come in and have jobs yeah if but that's what
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the ons numbers are based on because the ons basically assume that anybody that comes in
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will be exactly as productive as an existing british person despite their own modeling
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admitting that only whites are net tax contributors yes despite that but at the moment they so they
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compartmentalize that over there and another part that does the um the obr projections that says
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every new immigrant is exactly as productive as a brit so i even on that basis um because all i'm
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doing i'm not making any projection all i'm doing is taking the implications of their own numbers
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and their own logic what will happen is gdp will rise while the country gets poorer so the the
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government will keep getting able to announce oh look gdp's gone up by 0.1 0.03 or whatever it is
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yeah uh but gdp per head will keep rising and the other thing is britain is just completely
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rejected pro-natalism so i mean i whizzed through this i mean comment wherever you see fit chaps
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but oh no bugger how do i do this make it big again samson it's got it's flopped i think there
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we go it's it's big again right um yeah so i mean i've just laid out some of the key stuff
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yeah immigration is the only reason the country grows now
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i agree with uh morgoth when he said you can just finish the sentence there yeah yeah i agree with
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across the board on all things now where he says um i would happily uh accept a reduction in gdp
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um a stagnant or even uh an economy in recession uh true austerity 1930s style early 1950s late
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1940s style austerity if it meant we got our country back and our demographics weren't
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staring down the barrel of annihilation i would happily accept that well i don't care about
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the figure going up i don't care about that i care about not being exterminated i care about
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not becoming a hated and marginalized minority in my one and only ancestral homeland i'm very
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glad you said that because um we're going to get that anyway and i come to that to be fair though
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again reverting to the more hopeful narrative you know far be me to be the optimist on the panel but
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Well, fortunately, yeah, even though we would all have the courage to eat gruel in the dark
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to prevent our children from becoming minorities, we actually don't have to.
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Because the moment you just get rid of these people, we save so much money.
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Like, I know the post-war settlement runs on inflated GDP figures,
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then endless borrowing that can never be paid back.
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However, the actual fiscal spending that is done on the immigrants themselves,
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But the billions we spaff with, I think it's like 15.3 billion on universal credit on just foreign national owned households alone a year.
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So I think that it is a necessary precondition, but not a sufficient one.
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The rest of the welfare state has ballooned so much, especially after COVID.
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The biggest bills are the NHS, pensions and welfare.
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NHS, because of this effect, that basically we're going to get so many more old people.
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i care less really about gdp and the state of the economy i care far less about that
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than the fabric of our society that we end up in a position because it's not just that the money
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runs out it's not just it's not merely that we become a hated and marginalized minority in our
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one ancestral homeland when it really is the reality of it is a sectarian nightmare because
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we haven't we haven't even been talking about the mass rapes and murders have we
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that's what it'd be it'll be like Yugoslavia in the 1990s it'll be how white people are treated
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in South Africa or were treated in Zimbabwe it will be a sectarian Lebanon will be we will be
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subjected to endless horrors along racial religious and tribal lines that's what i care
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about above all else really to try and prevent that i don't care about the gdp in compared to
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that you're absolutely you're absolutely right but the point i'm making is with all of this
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i'm not even going there i'm not even making any assumptions on top of what the government's own
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figures show i'm just saying on the government's own figures and their own logic it is a disastrous
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outcome before you even have the stuff that you're quite right to say and you're absolutely right but
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even if you just take their own numbers it is still going to take us down um so burnham and
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his cabinet are laughing it up yeah and they find it funny like hysterical clowns and they find it
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funny so on the second one native replacement is now the system um another key point the
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replacement accelerator so native replacement massively accelerates from this month onwards
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because this is the month where births are massively exceeded by deaths but it just it
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just becomes a permanent feature from now on big boomer generation that stock of native british
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people, it declines quite fast from here. So yeah, it's an accelerator. Actually, another
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line there, the share of births involving at least one foreign-born parent is already
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And of course, foreign-born, if you add on top of that second-generation immigrants who
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themselves will only have children with other second-generation immigrants, then again,
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a state-sponsored campaign of miscegenation
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That's just not reflected in most people's preferences.
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if they've been here for five years or whatever,
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are the heirs to Alfred the Great and Queen Victoria
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as much as Anglo-Saxons, which is just palpably...
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but isn't every TV advert today basically advertising
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Oh, and also here's some coffee or something.
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I've seen a lot of white guys with black women recently,
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like eBay adverts and things like that as well.
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Either way, as long as you don't have evil Nazi white babies,
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that's the main thing isn't it that's the main i can't have those yeah um number four the
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immigration age trap so so so basically the the way that i mean this this has been coming down
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the track track for a while because demographics are actually fairly easy to make predictions on
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because you get a 20-year lead time for anyone coming into the workforce so it's not like these
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numbers are a surprise to anyone i mean this rns report for them they think it's just a perfectly
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standard you know oh let's just do the next deterioration this year so the implications
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billion a year. And that is the lowest possible estimate. But again, that's presuming that some
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of them do work, which they overwhelmingly don't. And then the other number was, if you take a low
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wage migrant, 95% of which the Boris wave were, because a very small minority were primary skilled
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worker applicants who weren't paid by the taxpayer, I think it's about 5%. If you take a low wage
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migrant and they arrive from age 25, and by the time of the age of average death, 81, they're
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going to cost the taxpayer at least £465,000 each. And that's not counting additional medical
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treatment. That's not counting their children. That's not counting if they came here before
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25. And that's presuming, again, that they work. So I actually ran those numbers yesterday and I
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worked out what if a 20-year-old third worlder comes here and they max out all the benefits.
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They take benefits, they get all the disability allowances, they make use of the NHS, they have
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four children and they make use of the NHS and they go through school. And the total cost of
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uk taxpayer was was 3.2 million if they if they max everything out and those people are coming
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here there are examples like that there are people who are maxing out all all of this stuff
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meanwhile we can barely afford the repayments the interest on our loans yeah oh in the interest
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bill meanwhile our economy is stagnant at 0.1 0.2 whatever the interest bill is now going from 110
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got into power, they were complaining about a 22 billion pound
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while we're trying to deport Pakistani rapists.
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Well, I mean, they're replacing the ethnic Ukrainians as well.
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So they've got the same mission, presumably.
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But this is your point, Connor, the upside down country.
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So losing children and accumulating elderly people.
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So by 2034, they're projected to be 1.6 million fewer children.
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Well, and also those schools that are still open, looking at Charlie Cole's excellent work for, I know the office isn't a fan of them, Pimlico Journal, in the last week, he looked at the demographic data from 2003 to now, and he found that white British school children as a percentage share of classrooms has fallen to, I think it's 59% in state schools and 57% for private schools.
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Yeah, and again, I'm not even making that point on here, because I'm just using their numbers.
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So this is all children. By 2034, there's going to be 1.6 million fewer children, 1.8 million pensioners.
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The number of people aged over 85 roughly doubles.
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So just walking around this country in 2034, you're going to see children are going to become quite rare,
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old people are going to become very common.
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And also public spaces, and this is a completely incidental point to the economics, I don't want to derail,
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but public spaces are going to become much worse because for as much as we do like to you know
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bully the boomers for how costly they are um we do love our boomers folks boomers make up the bulk
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of not just retirees of course but volunteers and so the the people i help out with like a little
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garden that we had our wedding photos taken as beautiful little public space in there and i'm
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the only young guy that can you know wheel the wheelbarrows about and carry the heavy things
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Everyone else is about, bar one, over the age of about 50.
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I mean, I haven't even got to the worst of it yet.
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The welfare state has entered its terminal in mathematics
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because the welfare state requires more young people
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this welfare state system and this pension system
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okay, well, we've got very few old people and they're poor
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which assumes there will always be more young people
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It was also a bunch of socialists that wanted it in the 40s and then Churchill decided to adopt it as well.
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Yes, I mean, all of that. But that means, mathematically, the British state will collapse unless it changes something.
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Unless it starts making serious changes now, there's no question that the British state will collapse at some point.
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seven this is the point i made gdp per head is going to stagnate but if they maintain if they
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keep doing a boris wave every 10 years uh and and that is the absolute minimum they do is one boris
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wave every 10 years but as we've already talked about it's likely to be at least two boris waves
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but it's definitely going to be one boris wave every 10 years then the and the obr numbers
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actually hold up which we also know a fantasy then the government expects to be able to report
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economic growth of our GDP per head is falling and you've got to remember in all of this is that
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as a country we've just rejected pro-natalism because it takes 20 years to get a child up into
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the workforce and every government is like why should I care about what happens in 20 years time
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I need to get re-elected in five years and what's going to help me in five years or maybe if I get
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some migrants they can pay some taxes in five years but why would I encourage anybody to have
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children especially if they expedite their enfranchisement either under the british
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nationality act that allows commonwealth citizens to vote or they give them my alarm
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expedient path to citizenship and they just vote for you because you're giving them money
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yeah so so the implications of the so something as simple as an ons statement saying oh yeah by
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the way um yeah deaths exceed births it might seem innocuous at first it might seem like oh
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that's that's an interesting number but the implications of this are incredibly powerful
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when you start looking through it um oh bugger i've done it again um samson it's gone link
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limp can you make it big make it big do the work there we go that's exactly what we needed
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right so um people are going to say well okay well when is this going to crash
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and the answer is i don't have a bloody clue it could be next week uh it could be 2040 but if i
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had to put a central estimate on it i'd say 2035 the big crash is coming so for whoever inherits
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the next government yes they've got a fiscal time bomb awaiting them and so making making
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promises on present economic presumptions for example the ability to maintain the triple lock
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is just a fool's errand oh the triple lock is just unaffordable it's just completely unaffordable
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uh and so i've laid out here you know i i've i've put down 2035 i'd be surprised if it's longer than
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that it could be shorter than that but here's a realistic timetable for what it uh you know what
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this would actually look like and it would be in the early 2030s markets no longer believe rates
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start to spike there's some sort of trigger i don't know what it is a war a pandemic some other
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things some something will happen um and in early 25 i'm saying i thought nothing ever happens though
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well some something will i'm predicting something will happen i don't know what it is each each time
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these crises have a different trigger event that gets recorded in history as the thing something
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will happen guilt yields will spike and sterling will fall simultaneously the bank of england will
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be pushed into a situation defending the pound or financing the government um you'll probably try and
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finance the government for a while and then just realize it can't do it the pound is being turned
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into toilet paper and our energy supplies are getting cut off our food supplies are getting
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cut off and there will have to be an emergency budget pensions will have to go lower ages on
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pensions grow high dramatic spending cuts nhs rationing rationing all services removed
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and either um you know we formally default on our debt and just say yeah that that those trillions
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they're never getting paid back we could do that or we default on the post-war social contract one
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of those is a mathematical certainty maybe both or both yeah or both more likely both actually
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um and what it looks like on the other side is economically um england or britain will look
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like poland did 20 years ago and that's the optimistic case uh the less optimistic cases
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we look like pakistan well that's more likely one yes it's the reason poland looked like poland 20
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years ago is because it's for the polish people and we have pakistanis and somalis well i thought
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of that or what if we got a government with uh the bulls to re-migrate the 10 maybe 20 million
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people that are here that shouldn't be close the borders not one more visa and then cut spending
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massively until the books are balanced funny you said that what about that because because that
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that that did occur to me oh okay how how to prevent it now i've color coded this to make it
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easy um but and this is not by far not the most radical thing is not is not what bows britain
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would do what i tried to do here is something which the um liberal state that we have could
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potentially get its head around i mean i don't think labor would actually do this but rupert
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lo might and we'd like to think that nigel farage would do would do some of this stuff so i mean
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we'll see now convert all of the migrants into guest workers with with net contributions as a
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minimum that's that seems to be zeer yusuf's idea already and if they fail to then what then you
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deport them yeah you just go yeah if you're not a net contributor you're gone okay yeah so all i'm
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saying there is basically just just do what the the arab states do what the uae does that's what
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they've modeled their guest worker visa on it's a it's a minimum threshold it's a temporary worker
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visa that needs to be um reimbursed the complete abolition of ilr and they can just deport you
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any time and you have a lifelong inability to access welfare benefits yeah because that way
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you can say okay well fine I mean I you know I know a lot of migrants are just absolute waste
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but some of them actually do good stuff some of them do actually work for the NHS or do some
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other stuff we can say fine okay well you can work here but the moment you hit retirement age
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you're gone the moment you lose a job you're gone just just do what a normal country does
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like the UAE does at the moment so I mean that's fairly easy and also tax remittances
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Well, you're just sending wealth out of our country.
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Because it's just basically like banks' transfers.
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So it's easier to tax it than it is to try and abolish it,
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um the things in purple all of these are things that i believe are a certainty to happen
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or electoral poison yes but you either wait for the crisis and then you do all the things in
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purple or be bold now or yeah or you can control it now and do it and so what i'm saying are things
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like radically cut welfare entitlement i mean it's ridiculous that apparently was it 25 of the
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uk population are now apparently disabled working age population yeah working age population
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one in four people is apparently disabled bollocks bollocks so radically cut welfare
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entitlement um increased pension age and lower repayments and obviously the triple lock is gone
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the pension when it came in was set at something like five years higher than life expectancy
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and it was a very low amount it needs to go back to something like that um nhs fees because the
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because that's the big free welfare pensions and nhs they are the big free spending items
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and and i completely sympathize with people who say oh you just need to uh deport all of the
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um immigrants on welfare honestly you you could do all of that and it doesn't dent it you know
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you have to tackle the big three you're more prosperous but you're only going to delay the
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collapse yes yeah it'll make you make you feel better to an extent but you have to tackle the
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big three there's no way around that uh cutting on essential vanity spending like i say all of
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those will happen after the crash or a government can can decide okay no actually i want to take
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charge of this process and i want to do it myself now the way that i want to do it and smooth it in
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anything that could be plausibly categorized by soft power of someone like jeremy hunt
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you don't need to spend money on it yes it's a boondoggle yes all of that um and then i've got
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the golden stuff at the bottom which is how to pay for it no this this this is actually i i don't i
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don't think and unless we get like a rupert low government next week burnham calls an election
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we get we get this next week i think the the going down into the crash is almost inevitable
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it's almost baked in at this point but can you turn it around can you come up the other side
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you know you've all seen movies where the plane or the glide or the spaceship or whatever the
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hell it is it's going down like that and then at the last minute it swerves up and it you know it's
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fine you need to do the things at the bottom massive energy build out massive home build out
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planning rules scrap so that needs to be things like instead of oh we want a nuclear power station
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so we can have cheap energy but we need to spend 30 years in planning and consultation the secretary
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of state just says yeah i'm approved it that's it it's done we're working with the south koreans
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and the japanese on small modular reactors we'll have one together in 10 years and we'll use a
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tariff to fund it yeah i've approved that site that site and that side and and then because i've said
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it no question you're not having a consultation you're not having appeals you're not having any
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of it it's just getting done and the same with home building um massive home building if we're
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going to make homes cheap for young people fund cheap homes for new parents um so a number of
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ways you could do that but it could be okay well if you're if you're under 30 and you've got a kid
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on the way or you've got small children um you qualify for an incredibly cheap loan or just 35
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years scrap stamp duty stop stop uh get rid of the countryside town planning act that was passed all
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of that in the 30s that made you build only little dino boxes and health and safety regs and all that
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and then stop with the human battery farms that are being knocked up everywhere with giant flats
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that is their express policy and they've already drafted the bills to do that
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nuts and bolts stuff that any department can do.
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All of my stuff at the bottom is basically removing government getting in its own way.
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I would encourage intergenerational families as the main pension.
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So rather than relying on, okay, well, you're going to retire
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and then you're going to live in a massive five-bed house,
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and then your grandchildren will come and visit you from their little box flat,
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You can live in bedroom five on the ground floor with your kids and grandkids.
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Again, a whole bunch of ways you could do that.
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you could say to the old people um we make it very tax advantageous and very appealing for you
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to gift your house over to your children and you can live with them and and also the other thing
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is is is you've already mentioned you've you've um seen seen ahead a lot of this that i've been
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talking about stop building those little dino boxes go back to building family homes it's one
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that one of the most insane regulations that i keep seeing are the tiny windows they've made it
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so that you could those are energy regs yeah yeah but it's also the health and safety regulation to
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say a single elderly woman living on her own should be able to open this window and not fall
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out of it even on the ground floor and that's why there are hideous tiny sparse little windows all
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over these new dino boxes so just scrap all of that yeah but what we need is we need intergenerational
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families to be the pension not living on your own in a massive house it's that is ridiculous
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and also just remove most of the anti-business regulation again everything in gold as you as
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you'll correctly say the government could do it very easily because you don't you don't need to
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do anything i mean okay the massive energy builder if you just remove your rules the koreans will
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come over and build the power stations for you it means we get to do more business with the koreans
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and the japanese which are countries we actually like yes you do some sort of great repeal act
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where you do it all in one act just with a stroke of a pen climate change act bin it off yep 300
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odd MPs. One act. Boom. Done. So David Cameron talked about doing that in 2010 and then bottled
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it when he came in. They've already started drafting them. So the Prosperity Institute
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has already got draft bills on its website. They get rid of a bunch of hate speech legislation.
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It doesn't go as far as the free speech bill that you actually, I think, spoke about on your
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Brokonomics episode. They should adopt that instead. Getting rid of the Equality Act,
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the Constitutional Reform and Governance Act, which puts civil service code into law and basically
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means that quangos and civil servants run the government. That's going to go. They're already
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drafting the actual bills that you could just pass on day one. So people are thinking about this.
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so then i'm just going to end it here now but i will just say look this gives us two futures
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the stuff in purple is going to happen anyway so if you do the stuff in purple but you don't do
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the stuff in blue basically we're going to go into that crash and we're just going to stay there
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we're just going to be pakistan forever if the stuff in purple happens anyway or better yet is
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that you do it at your own pace as you want to over the next 10 years and you do the stuff at
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the bottom um i think the 2040s could be a golden age so i can see us coming out the other side of
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this really nicely if we do what's necessary but if we don't do what's necessary we become a colony
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of pakistan wait a bit there there's a couple of rumble rants do you want to do these down
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as they pertain to your segment there's a bunch actually oh good right um i might have to skip
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the cheapest ones but i'll do um z tonto britain needs britain demands dan tub mp
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chancellor the exchequer um you know if i don't really want to be an mp but if if asked i suppose
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i would uh he also says i purchased a new copy of ireland a good man and my success with the
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opposite immediately increased yes it is like axe body spray or no what do they call it in this
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kind of links links body spray it's basically that just wafted around and fanny sticks um
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that's a random name says uh look how we're treated when we're majority uh look how whites
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are treated when they are minority rhodesia south africa uh 2029 would be the election
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that defines this century yes well i'm saying you got until 2035 before it's just terminal
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um but yes 2029 would be by far the best option um based ape says uh let's crash the country
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intentionally disavow yeah these will flee when there's nothing left to steal yeah the problem
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with the south africanism is is that south africa just keeps getting more south africa and that
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also presumes a level of like self-consciousness that you have for these people and they don't they
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they will live they will live in the ruins of your civilization like an elephant graveyard and
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they won't think twice about it yeah it's still way better than rural bangladesh yes the ruins
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of england is still way better than that so yeah i'm not an accelerationist i i don't agree with
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that there are still liberals in south africa and that's random name says our illegitimate
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illegitimate rulers have ensured that our nations are dependent on external entities for food
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electricity etc yeah so that's my point about when gilts crash and sterling crashes you've basically
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got no choice at that point because otherwise we won't get the power and food coming in so
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they've made us dependent but that's also that's also kind of giving us our out at some future
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point all right okay get uh should we get the yeah samson change the slides mind yeah okay
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all right sir bear me one second all right gentlemen i believe we do need to talk about
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the ongoing war in persia as we haven't talked about it that much i'd forgotten about it yeah
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there's been a bit of sort of iran war fatigue hasn't there i noticed two three weeks ago making
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content as i do for a living on here and state of politics notice that the videos don't people
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don't really seem to be clicking on them as much as they used to they don't seem to care they're a
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bit yeah actual fatigue with the cycles of with the irgc the iranian regime and and it's funny
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because i never got bored of the iraq war the first one and the second one proper war when
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in the second war it's like because there wasn't constant running commentary and cameras everywhere
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and it wasn't like the 24-hour news cycle yes and and the and the ukraine war i got bored of that in
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a year and then this i kind of got bored of it in about three months it's getting a bit like when
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the crusty crab is open 24 hours and nobody has a break and they bring a bell every time there's
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another consecutive day and everyone is just exhausted of it not working well in the last
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11 days or so everything does seem to have changed you know there's the nothing ever happens crew
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or uh trump always chickens out what do they call that was taco taco there's a taco crew
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well about 11 days ago trump did decide to sort of take the gloves off again he to give him credit
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it does seem like he's tried to do nearly everything he can wasn't there to force
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and nobody understood it, so therefore it's not right.
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So basically they exchanged emails and that was it,
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There was a series of conditions that both sides represented
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the other as agreeing with, but the conditions weren't the same.
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So the Uranians said that the Americans had agreed
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to allow them to enrich uranium, basically past the point
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that they would need for domestic nuclear power,
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and that they would call a ceasefire in Lebanon,
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And Israel was just going to back off a bit.
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And of course, that was immediately violated
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because the Israelis started bombing Lebanon again.
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then it's unlikely that's ever going to be secured.
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There was the whole Lebanon proxy thing, Hezbollah.
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are insisting, particularly the United States and the Donald
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strait open and so they've said well hang on a minute
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make money doing it why wouldn't we and that seems so obvious if you if don't think if you're an
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american don't think about it as an american think about it if you were an iranian why would you ever
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give that up well yeah iran are now just sort of absolutely insisting that they have complete
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sovereignty over the straits so the first one the whole proxy issue second one the straits issue
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and the third one nuclear weapons whether iran will give up their right to what they say is
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their rights to enrich uranium to a weapons-grade degree.
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if you need enriched uranium for hospital machinery and such,
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we'll just sell that to you, the IAEA or whoever can watch it all,
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and iran voice said no we in we insist on the right to enrich uranium to whatever degree we
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please and again from their perspective i can't blame them because there isn't a war in north
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korea well also yes and also now they've got the additional incentive because they think that the
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americans don't have the power to stop them from doing it but they do know that america and israel
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has nukes and that they have the intent to try and stop them from doing it so the only um sufficient
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safeguard against a regime change war which it was marketed from as from the very opening of the
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war would be a nuclear weapon and this means then that nuclear proliferation is going to be more
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likely in the region especially considering as well the israelis are now eyeing out the turks
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and so it means a bunch of like other states might turn around to i don't know like pakistan
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and say oh can we buy one off the shelf from you maybe maybe so the three big sticking points are
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the question of the proxies, the question of the straight
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Okay, so that memorandum of understanding was doomed to fail, I think.
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Well, and it has now because about 11 days ago,
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despite all the carrots and sticks that Trump and Hexeth and Rubio have tried,
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both carrot and stick, it all seems to have failed
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So last night was the 11th straight night in a row where they're exchanging ordnance.
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There's been a few deaths from US service people, some in Jordan, for example, some in Kuwait, I believe.
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Iran has been hitting Kuwait and Bahrain particularly hard.
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And America has been, well, CENTCOM has been bombing all over Iran for 11 days straight.
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trump sort of saying making noises like oh no this is this is it now i can't trust them i don't trust
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them they're psychos uh and so okay that's what's happening now so the war is back on it's almost at
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the intensity that it was back in march at the beginning didn't didn't trump suggest as well
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that he might be willing to target civilian infrastructure well that has begun yes that has
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begun so last few nights they're bombing some bridges and things so the the great threat is
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of course attacking not just the energy infrastructure in the region but it's also
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like the Gulf's desalination plants, which make the region habitable
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because if you don't have fresh drinking water, you can't live in a desert.
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Well, Iran's already been doing that to its neighbours.
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Just a few days ago, they hit a Kuwaiti desalination plant.
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They've done it to Bahrain and what's the other really big island there
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I sense they're still holding back a lot, though.
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The US could take out their entire power supply
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And Iran could take out all of the region's desalination plants
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So it's kind of a weird war where they're just like
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One thing I'd say about that, I think you're right,
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both sides are still holding back to some degree.
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we don't seem to know exactly how big their stockpiles still are.
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All I know is that all the propaganda that I've been told
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from the Allies' side has turned out to be wrong.
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And if the Americans wanted to take the gloves off
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and drop tactical nukes or something, they could do that, couldn't they?
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If they wanted to mobilise armoured divisions like 2003,
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get the big red one going, drop all their airborne divisions inside Iran,
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They wanted to do day and night air campaigns 24-7 against Iran.
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Are you possessed by the ghost of Lindsey Graham right now?
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If the planners in the Pentagon somehow decided they did have an appetite
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for a 2003-style invasion, America's got the materiel.
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Just building on Dan's point that both sides are still,
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America has been bombing all parts of Iran, really.
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I just think it's worth bringing to people's attention
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because a lot of people, because of that fatigue I talked about,
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are just not really seem to be paying much attention to it.
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i mean this is actually from oh this is a financial times article um just saying that uh that it's
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all going on and uh there's all sorts of uh you know trump warns iran will pay many times over
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for deaths of u.s soldiers every time one or two or three u.s personnel are killed um trump says
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they're going to hit them harder and harder and harder.
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Whether, you know, it boils down to this, doesn't it?
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Can the Iranian regime hold on longer than, like,
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what, Trump's entire remaining presidency?
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Short of the Donald and Hegseth doing a full invasion
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doing thunder runs through the middle of Tehran.
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Short of that, can they hold on that long?
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We've seen what their appetite for punishment is like in the Iran-Iraq war.
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They can take a hell of a lot of punishment.
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They will keep punching back and ignore the amount of punishment they're taking.
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We'll just have this on in the background while we're talking.
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um yeah so america are spending a lot of money on it so far um hegseth went uh in front of a
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committee just the other day and saying that so far the bill is something like 37 and a half
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billion dollars what do you think that costs that plane i don't know i don't know what it is if it
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was a if that was a somebody in the chat if i had to guess i don't know does that cost 300 million
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something like that off the top of my head well and then what is it what does an iranian drone
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cost like a few grand yeah maybe maybe 30 grand if it's a bit fancy so you can see the imbalance
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but yeah u.s has got more money and they've got more jets but 300 million against 30 grand
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despite that imbalance despite that iran is it is heavily degraded there's no doubt about that
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its economy is a complete joke it was how it was suffering from hyperinflation before this even
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started so iran's economy and military is not much and america has got near bottomless pockets
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it has got an insane amount of material the u.s navy alone will dominate all the other world's
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navies the u.s air force just the the flying wing of the u.s marine corps is gigantic yeah they've
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got they've got a big military but i mean it is cost that's my point the asymmetry in the cost
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is enormous and in political cost because they have to deal about that's the main thing yes
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and presidential elections whereas i think the actual money cost to america i mean 30 billion
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no the asymmetry in the willingness to take casualties is also that is that and also their
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equipment can be a liability in just in terms of size deployment maneuverability as you say
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compared to the drones because i think what was it you know you uh us abraham lincoln in the early
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days of the war had to be had to be taken offline or taken away for repairs and they said it was
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like a fire in the laundry room or something yeah really you don't believe that fire and no okay i
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don't well a fire in the laundry room did that much damage at the start of the war when it's
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basically a giant floating target i'm very skeptical especially with the communications
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about the uh what was it downed helicopter and they claimed they had to get and and and after
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that the uh the naval group basically pulled back and maintained a a really wide distance it's like
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yeah was it really long it's a giant target to be pelted with loads of drones i think churchill said
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the first casualty in war is the truth yeah i think that's an axiom that's actually goes back
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to the ancient world one way or another you could rephrase it um but um yeah the i do think it's
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less about money because america has got near near bottomless pockets it's it's budget its
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military budget is insane insane um uh but it's about the political will can trump i suppose it
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boils down to this i suppose it really does boil down to this um can uh the united states remove
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the iranian regime with just an air campaign or do they will they have to have boots on the ground
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Well, your historian, has there ever been a case
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Yeah, well, you might need a few special forces
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There's a small number of guys in the end,
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but Afghanistan and Iran are a completely different kettle of fish.
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Lots of soldiers were deployed on the ground in Afghanistan.
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you're talking about the initial shock and awe campaign
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the war against serbia in the 90s was largely a nato air campaign
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it's not an air campaign but it is bombardment a bombing of zanzibar i've
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got him to surrender within 40 minutes yeah it's a good example yeah but of
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it's a giant prospect i'm only playing devil's advocate because i would agree
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that no you can't change that regime without boots on the ground
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so it's only for a moment we were talking about this before we came on it doesn't seem likely
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i'm fundamentally far more pessimistic than you are that a boots on the ground campaign can be
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won because my point of view is that ron is a fortress made out of mountains lots of mountain
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passes they have been preparing for 40 years they will have their dugout positions they know what
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they're going to do and america lost lots of people in the scattered bits of the hills of
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iraq when you're trying to invade a country like iran i think they would have to be willing to lose
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a horrendous amount of people and the amount of people they would need to be prepared to lose is
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well above their political ability to lose people just talking hypothetically because at the moment
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the pentagon hasn't got an appetite for boots on the ground i would actually argue against that
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i would say the one thing that the united states military does brilliantly is dominating a
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battlefield in the first instance that it does that to an unbelievable degree i think they can
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dominate southern iran but getting to tehran getting going thousands of miles through mountains
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to tehran i think that is a hell of a job i think apache gunships pick off anything they want without
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any return and i think they've had 40 years to build their dug-in positions and the the apaches
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won't see them really yeah i think you're highly mistaken sir if you've got mountains and you've
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had 40 years to prepare your positions it's not going to be like afghanistan with a dude on a hill
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just going spraying like that and apache comes over basically is though no i think i think i
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think they will have dug out position they have been preparing for it for 40 years an f22 versus
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a dug out position it's no contest but they're not going to put them on google maps they're not
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going to say where they are i don't know i know i severely doubt if you look at 2003 um every
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everything failed to stop that armored advance in 2003 everything yeah it wasn't just a billiard
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ball style a ball style i just think you underestimate it's not that um the united
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states are particularly good at winning hearts and minds or winning the peace or an occupation
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but in killing you on the battlefield they're unbelievably efficient at that unbelievably
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the second there's a heat signature of a human that's it you're gone it's but anyway it's all
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hypothetical because apparently there's no appetite on the ground i can't remember what
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the casualties in iraq were but they were still reasonably high and i just think it would be much
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much higher than iran just to split the difference um occupation would probably fail but what i think
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both saying is they could turn it into a disorganized statelet whether or not that would
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be a great idea to leave in such a thing that doesn't open the straight and four moves either
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because okay now you've got um local warlords well they're just closing straight and then the
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other the other sea sea passage i forget what it's called but it's also just been shut down
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by the houthis as well and dab whatever it is bless you um and so now that might be another
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another uh bab al-mandab that's that's it yeah um it might be another theater in the war which
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might suck the Saudis in as well so maybe i mean all of it all of that discussion there is all a
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bit uh speculative speculative because it seems that uh the white house the state department and
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the pentagon aren't going to put boots on the ground i think you'd be insane maybe maybe but
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they don't seem to want to do that so can the iranian regime just hold on for like a couple
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of years and then there'll be a new president and then who knows what at that point it might
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be a president it might be rubio himself who knows who's like yeah no we're continuing this
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for as long as it takes all that stuff that might be aoc and she's like just stops everything i mean
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there's lots of american wars where that happens new guy comes in and they change tax yeah right
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yeah also perhaps this could be very naive obviously because rubio is uh has been an
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ardent zionist but i would be surprised if he did actually continue it because his team are very much
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against it and if you remember in the early days of the war he was the one that came out and said
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look we didn't really want to do this but we got dragged into it because the israelis
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And then in the leaked briefing of the original plan that was pitched to Trump by Netanyahu
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in person, and then the head of Mossad zooming in, it was the director of the CIA, J.D.
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Vaughn and Rubio, who all turned to the president and said, sorry, Mr. President, this is bullshit.
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Like, they're giving you too rosier picture. They said that the Iraqi Kurds are going to
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invade from the north, that the people are going to rise up, and they're going to celebrate
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us as liberators. It's not going to happen. So I would be surprised if any of the presidential
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candidates were gung-ho on this other than Ted Cruz. You mentioned Rubio might not be
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prepared. I think J.D. Vance as well, wasn't he? Very, very lukewarm. He was one of the ones that
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he's on record at this point. And I really don't think he's going to be Ted Cruz at the next
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election. No, but he's going to be the only one on stage arguing for it. But Vance placed himself
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strategically in the peace process so that he didn't have to own the war, essentially. Because
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Trump launched it and Vance, knowing that he's the VP, would have to own it as the apologist
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for the president. But if he were to secure the Memorandum of Understanding translating
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into a peace deal, which is why he kept going to Switzerland, Qatar, all these places, then
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he would be able to claim victory for it on the presidential stage. And unfortunately
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The thing is, unless you go to the Israelis first and get them to sign a Memorandum of
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Understanding, there's no point then going to the Iranians.
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This is what, this is, everyone should go and subscribe to Rory's Substack, author of
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Islander, but also excellent Substack, because he's written two very interesting pieces on
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basically the function of Tucker Carlson in all of this. And he thinks that Tucker Carlson's
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proximity to the likes of JD Vance, Peter Thiel, and Joe Kent, and the CIA connections, represents
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a kind of intelligence counter gang that's feeding him sources, which is trying to judo-flip the
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Iran war into renegotiating relationships with Israel. So withdrawing the special memorandum
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that gives them funding, turning them essentially into a stationary aircraft carrier in the region
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rather than their sort of primary focus, so they can shift away to China, to other priorities.
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And I wouldn't be shocked if that's the case. If they're saying, essentially, look, they go to
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Trump would say, Mr. President, we've tried and tried and tried to make peace here, but Israel
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is the liability here because it's not coming to the table, it's not holding off on Lebanon to give
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us... This is like Trump last year in the 12-day war, when he came out to the press and he said,
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Israel and Iran don't know what the F they're doing. So I wouldn't be shocked if essentially
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Vance's faction is trying to do that, is trying to pin this on the Israelis to renegotiate American
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foreign policy away from... I mean, alternatively, they've got a massive air force base in Oman,
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And that's why they're friendly with the Qataris.
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They're trying to butter up other regional partners.
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One last thing I'll quickly mention is the last big,
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Pickaxe mountain where the US are saying that Iran
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are going to try and restart or have even restarted their centrifuges
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and America needs to attack Pickaxe Mountain soon.
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It's like apparently a massive underground facility.
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and this this also assumes that iran and every other potential enemy of the u.s doesn't have
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thousands of sleeper cells that they got in across the southern border when joe biden left
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the southern border and here and here yeah i just thought it was worth bringing to people's attention
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that the war in persia is totally back on right now day 23 give it up for day 23
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for a little bit okay busted britain says as a uf u.s air force veteran specifically a weapons
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specialist for the strike eagle what is that an f-16 the strike eagle f-15 f-16 um dan is grossly
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underestimating our ordinance grossly in all caps i am aware that you can blow stuff up that's that's
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not my i'm not disputing that you can't blow stuff up what i'm what i'm saying is is that
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i just i just don't think it's going to be anywhere as near as easy as iraq i really don't
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think it is oh i'd agree with you that it wouldn't be as easy as europe and winning the peace is
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another question once picking out humans and military material on any given identified a
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target i acknowledge that they can blow it up i'm not disputing that bit okay logan 17 pion says i
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frankly don't care about the persian cats i'm far more concerned about the new evidence of china
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allowing 20 million uh voters info and their actions into the 2020 election yeah and we did
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Has anyone done a segment on that at Load Seaters recently?
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I think I covered it on Monday on the Beau show,
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Someone should do a segment on that, shouldn't they?
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Do we want to do ones for each of our own segment,
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It's all very well pointing out how corrupt Andy Burnham is
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and the vile clique he's assembling around himself,
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but how long do you think it will take if at all for the british public to wake up and realize i
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still see far too many of the public blithely believing everything the bbc puts out i think
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the burn and bounce is going to be largely a mirage when he has to start owning the consequences
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of the system that he's supported and uh so it's just a it's just a matter of time until he's
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unseated what what the focus should be put on is bullying the next party of government to do the
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things that are necessary so they can fix all the problems that they've inherited and also the ones
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that are awaiting them as you're pointing out in your segment, Dan.
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I would agree there, though, and isn't it surprising,
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They're not really interested in getting their news from many other sources
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and whatever the BBC says is like, oh, yeah, that's reality,
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I guess so, I don't know many of them personally,
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It's not a national bellwether, but there are still people that are just like,
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for god's sake go watch goggle box please take up knitting do something else um one one more for
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my segment then uh i will go with uh luke i wonder how many people convicted of civil unrest after
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southport will be released early by number 10 um absolutely not and in fact the reason they did the
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early release rounds in the first place was so they could look up more of them so expect more
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people to be locked up for speech offenses so they can make room for them exactly yeah i'll do a
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couple of mine uh long time no see something something five dollar say uh it gets worse when
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89 of companies were surveyed and they flat out refused to hire gen z boomer managers only want
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to hire boomer employees for the experience i'm not even gen z but i can understand uh this is
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going to cause problems in the future they're not going to last 10 years well yeah but all the
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boomers are retiring so it reminds me of um claire fox did an event at unheard after tucker interviewed
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nick fuentes and she said oh i see all these radical young men around in politics um how do
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we the older people make sure that they don't get into the institutions and infiltrate them just like
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the young leftists did in corporations so who said that claire fox baroness claire fox you know
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spiked claire fox so yeah because of course the the thing we need is more boomer gatekeeping
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yeah because yeah it's it's the african saying if you if if young men can't participate in the
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village they'll burn it down just to fill its warmth that kind of thing yeah uh more boomer
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is it means the boomer has to give up soul control
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I mean, if you've been so fantastically productive
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that you can then spend 40 years in a five-bedroom house,
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I do think we need to move to intergenerational families
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And Jimbo G says, another foreign war, another generation of British Muslims radicalised against us.
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At least Starmer kept the wolf from the door for now.
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I don't think Starmer should be given any credit for that, to be honest.
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And Baron Von Warhawk says, did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?
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Insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over and expecting crap to change.
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Repeat until Trump gets thrown out of office.
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Well, there's a good comment from Binary Surfer,
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The problem with the mountains is that all the slower stuff,
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like apaches can uh like apaches that can do genuine hard close air support cannot fly with
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any real ammunition or fuel load at those altitudes it's not just apaches though they've got
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okay all right um all about the warhawk the a10 uh warhawk sorry the a10 warhawk that can fly
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any altitude you like what about that also air power can hammer stuff flat but it cannot hold
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ground especially in low loiter time terrain the u.s would have to commit in excess of half a million
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combat troops thus at least the same to support troops same as the support troops e.g. mechanics
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aircrew cooks etc and be willing to lose 10 to 20 percent of those yeah that's that's what i'm
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saying that's that's that's yeah that's broadly what i was thinking i mean i don't disagree in
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theory in principle with the sort of the sentiment there i just don't think anything like that like
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Our back and forth about whether it's better to go to Mars or Venus.
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You've got it in your mind that Venus is an effective thing.
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Venus is way close to the sun, therefore completely inhospitable.
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Don't worry about the atmosphere is sulfuric acid.
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it's actually really easy to have cloud cities.
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It's surprisingly easy because there's so much buoyancy.
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and you've got an atmosphere if on mars you can't engineer any of that the whole thing goes
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whereas on venus you get a puncher in the side and it's like okay i'll put it on the list of
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things to prepare tomorrow the atmospheric density is important the pressure the density
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the atmosphere makes it really easy to float there there's loads of useful resources you can
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crack um fuel and water and a whole bunch of other stuff from the atmosphere honestly i'll send you
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i'll send you the link to the podcast episode you're skeptical but honestly i'm 100 right i'm
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100 and i actually and actually i did that episode and i got a climate a planetary scientist email me
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afterwards to say yeah you're exactly right exactly right thousands of years into the future maybe
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when we've got a whole new technology to do nearly everything you've just said it's you can't build
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cloud cities at the moment dan yeah that's the point it's it's not it doesn't rely on some
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rely on some future tech you basically just need normal atmosphere in a large container that's it
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because of the atmospheric density people are imagining that you need massive thrusters like
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this isn't the thing all right anyway no because it's above the cloud layer
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anyway um we are massively going over because we are rehashing um an important issue which i'm which
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now you've fired me up about it i'm going to do another segment about no venus no comments no
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So, somebody else has annoyed me in the comments now.
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Right, I'm going to stop reading the comments and say goodbye.