The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1470

00:00:00.120 Hello, and welcome to the podcast of The Load Seaters, episode 1470 for Monday, the 27th of July, 2026.

00:00:08.460 I'm your host, Luca, joined today by Firas and Carl.

00:00:11.160 Hello.

00:00:11.640 And today we're going to be talking all about the horrendous Berlin terror attack that Europe was just witness to last weekend.

00:00:20.480 We're then going to be talking about Elon's recent interview with The Economist.

00:00:24.360 And then we're going to be talking about how the Green Party, the Gimp Party, seems to be stalling in the polls and some reasons as to why that might be.

00:00:33.960 So before we get into the first segment, obviously it is a Monday, so do come back at 3pm after you've got yourself another cup of tea, ready to watch Firas's Realpolitik, where today you're going to be talking about tensions in America by the looks of it.

00:00:48.240 Yeah, basically, it's not recoverable through democratic means at this stage.

00:00:53.460 It's, you know, who knows how it plays out.

00:00:56.200 Weirdly, America's a lot more hamstrung than we are

00:00:58.220 because of their hard-coded constitution.

00:01:00.580 Because of the legal constraints that they have,

00:01:02.460 because of things like the Supreme Court and Congress and all of that.

00:01:05.520 All we need is one government of maniacs.

00:01:08.980 To abolish our Supreme Court.

00:01:10.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:01:12.620 Yeah, definitely.

00:01:14.060 Well, for Firas's insights on that, do go and join him at 3pm.

00:01:18.240 And also, ladies and gentlemen, part two of my analysis of Shakespeare's Time in the

00:01:22.640 of Athens is now out for Chronicles as well.

00:01:25.220 So if you enjoyed part one, part two is now available to you.

00:01:28.700 If you haven't watched it, the guy's nickname was Time on the Misanthrope.

00:01:32.400 Yes.

00:01:32.800 Like anyone who just hates humanity.

00:01:34.660 There's this one great story that Plutarch gives us where during the life of Alcibiades,

00:01:42.020 Alcibiades is wowing the crowd on the Pnyx, you know, where democracy is happening.

00:01:47.220 and time on just goes up to him goes yep carry on my son you're going to bring everyone many

00:01:51.440 miseries and of course alcibiades brings athens to ruin yes well i mean i don't think it's alcibiades

00:01:57.860 fault but he he does yeah uh so uh cracking character yeah this plays out in the in the

00:02:03.440 actual play as well where he's got alcibiades has been exiled from the city and like he happens

00:02:08.900 upon time and in the forest who is just after not being able to get a single penny from the men of

00:02:13.660 athens just falls upon a huge cache of gold and then instead of um how him i think it was lucian

00:02:21.340 or the antiquity yeah lucian uh he says well timon learned his lesson uh and kept the money for

00:02:28.240 himself whereas in this one he just giving it to alcibiades like here use this for your war use

00:02:32.880 this for the siege raise the city to the ground alcibiades so uh yeah do go tune in friends um

00:02:39.820 All right.

00:02:40.280 With that said, then, Firas, tell us about Bilin, sir.

00:02:43.500 All right.

00:02:44.940 First off, let's mention Islander.

00:02:46.900 I was actually reading both of your pieces this weekend.

00:02:50.180 Oh, thank you.

00:02:51.020 Took the kids to the playground, let them run around, did some reading.

00:02:55.400 Incredible.

00:02:56.160 Especially yours.

00:02:57.140 Very, very nice stuff.

00:02:57.640 Oh, thank you very much.

00:02:58.320 Thank you.

00:02:58.920 Thank you.

00:02:59.840 Carson's piece was very good.

00:03:01.320 There was a piece about South from Will Tanner that was very good.

00:03:05.560 Really.

00:03:06.060 Will Tanner is by far.

00:03:07.200 Like, for me, it's Morgoth or Will Tanner.

00:03:10.220 It's like, I don't know which one I prefer.

00:03:12.140 But Will's, Morgoth's a poet, but Will's are very incisive.

00:03:15.520 I'm going to do a video on his Orania one, actually.

00:03:18.000 It's really good.

00:03:19.480 There's a lot you can connect it to as well, but I won't spoil it.

00:03:22.780 Yes.

00:03:23.940 So, please get your copy and do enjoy it on a sunny afternoon.

00:03:28.820 Now, there's been a terrorist attack in Berlin again.

00:03:32.900 This is different from the terrorist car ramming that happened in 2016, which we will get to

00:03:40.060 in a moment.

00:03:41.320 Unfortunately, it happened again, very predictably.

00:03:46.680 And a guy who was from Lebanon, a Lebanese Sunni from the Baloud family, drove a vehicle

00:03:55.840 into a pride parade celebration,

00:03:59.760 injured several people,

00:04:01.780 and killed at least one person.

00:04:05.480 Just a quick thing.

00:04:06.500 We've been predicting this sort of thing

00:04:07.620 would happen for a long time.

00:04:08.720 To be honest with you, it's amazing.

00:04:09.840 It took so long to have.

00:04:11.120 They're attacking Christmas markets,

00:04:12.760 thinking, oh, if we attack their religion,

00:04:14.820 they'll react to that.

00:04:15.840 No, that's not our real religion.

00:04:17.300 That's just a habit that we have.

00:04:19.220 Attacking the pride march,

00:04:20.700 that might actually provoke a response.

00:04:22.920 Well, it's causing definitely a big crisis on the left, which we will get to in a moment.

00:04:29.200 But it took the police a while to find the guy in question.

00:04:35.220 Eugypus has a piece about this gentleman.

00:04:40.560 I mean, this guy is good.

00:04:41.880 I like him.

00:04:42.160 He's great.

00:04:42.920 Yeah, I like him.

00:04:45.360 Looked for him, eventually found him hiding in an allotment garden.

00:04:50.760 Didn't you shoot him as well?

00:04:52.180 Well, he tried to stab them and then they shot him. And the guy had been born in Germany to a

00:05:00.360 Lebanese woman. At some point, he went to Lebanon to try to join Islamic State, to go from Lebanon

00:05:06.220 to Syria and join Islamic State. The Lebanese immediately arrested him. And then they sent

00:05:11.300 him back to Germany. Yeah, the Germans extradited him, didn't they? The Germans extradited him. And

00:05:15.660 you know, Lebanon has thousands and thousands of jihadi prisoners, a lot of them without charges.

00:05:20.620 but the state knows they're a danger

00:05:23.560 and so they just lock them up.

00:05:25.980 And the Germans don't do that kind of thing.

00:05:29.880 No, the Germans probably gave him

00:05:30.900 a nice sort of a wellness retreat

00:05:33.120 or something for six months.

00:05:36.060 Apparently they found him guilty

00:05:38.220 and sentenced him to a year and 10 months in jail

00:05:41.900 but they gave him conditional release

00:05:44.220 if he were to attend a de-radicalization program

00:05:47.740 at the Violence Prevention Network.

00:05:52.280 Now, let's have a look.

00:05:53.180 Liberal therapeutising.

00:05:54.760 I just want to sort of show you

00:05:57.360 some of the individuals involved.

00:05:59.800 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:06:00.600 If you saw these faces,

00:06:03.060 would you be likely to be de-radicalised?

00:06:07.660 Not particularly.

00:06:08.840 I don't really think I should comment.

00:06:11.600 All I'm saying is I think these white women

00:06:13.360 don't really understand what's happening in this guy's head.

00:06:15.720 No.

00:06:16.880 Just saying.

00:06:17.340 that's it that liberal white women are like oh let me sit you down and explain to you why

00:06:22.420 liberalism is good oh my god look at this her thematic focus includes practice-based policy

00:06:30.300 and advice impact assessment gender misogyny and extremism and the exit programs in prison

00:06:35.440 and probation just this guy is a million miles away from your libtard philosophies you have no

00:06:42.120 idea how to think about him they they absolutely don't understand he knows exactly what he thinks

00:06:46.500 of you oh yeah yes i mean these are the kinds of people to put myself in his head these are the

00:06:53.420 kind of people who are likely to provoke his contempt yes and further drive him to commit

00:06:59.100 to his cause these kinds of people might be the reason he chose the pride parade right exactly

00:07:04.160 he might have chosen a christmas market alternatively but because you came out with

00:07:07.940 your gender lgbtq identity nonsense right i have enough of this and conversely if he had been faced

00:07:13.880 with a tough state that actually punished him properly,

00:07:17.240 this wouldn't have happened.

00:07:18.160 Oh, obviously.

00:07:19.160 This wouldn't have happened.

00:07:20.680 But we're living in this liberal utopia,

00:07:23.420 and this is part and parcel of living in a liberal utopia.

00:07:28.820 Now, he had been, as I said, previously sentenced,

00:07:34.740 and then you had the various reactions to this guy.

00:07:37.880 You had Sadiq Khan come out with,

00:07:40.600 my thoughts are with everyone.

00:07:42.280 the reaction is

00:07:43.240 I just can't get over

00:07:44.900 how profoundly preventable

00:07:46.500 this was

00:07:47.060 right

00:07:47.380 completely

00:07:47.700 not only was he

00:07:48.800 out of the country

00:07:49.760 right he had no

00:07:50.580 like as far as I'm aware

00:07:51.800 he had no intention

00:07:52.500 of coming back right

00:07:53.340 no

00:07:53.740 he was going

00:07:55.000 the Germans asked for him

00:07:55.980 yeah the Germans

00:07:56.620 the Lebanese just sort of

00:07:57.620 tossed him in jail

00:07:58.380 which is what they do

00:07:58.980 with these people

00:07:59.480 oh you want him

00:08:00.520 okay

00:08:01.380 fine

00:08:02.120 Germans are like

00:08:02.580 sorry no no no

00:08:03.160 that's our jihadi

00:08:04.080 we need to bring him back

00:08:05.380 for liberal processing

00:08:06.840 so we can sit him down

00:08:08.120 with a therapist

00:08:08.860 and make him undergo

00:08:10.000 so we can prove

00:08:10.940 multiculturalism works

00:08:12.640 Exactly.

00:08:13.700 Exactly.

00:08:14.500 Which is why these guys believe that integration is a form of salvation.

00:08:19.300 It's their version of salvation.

00:08:21.260 So they believe religiously they failed him.

00:08:23.600 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:08:24.180 Because they didn't rescue him from his backwards.

00:08:26.680 And all of these people are just the high priests of this.

00:08:29.520 Essentially.

00:08:29.920 That's what all of these people are.

00:08:31.440 And they're like, no, no, no.

00:08:32.320 I know about human nature.

00:08:35.740 I know about people from the Middle East.

00:08:37.600 I know what they think.

00:08:38.360 I know what they do.

00:08:38.880 and all i need to do is just sit down and explain to him why you're being misogynistic why you're

00:08:44.520 being a racist why being xenophobic why you need to be inclusive of lgbt and then he'll get it and

00:08:50.580 then as you say multiculturalism will work in incorporation inclusion will work and the liberal

00:08:56.200 project will be saved from itself and this guy sat there thinking i'm going to kill people for

00:09:00.720 allah i'm going to kill people for allah i have been given a divine commandment from the creator

00:09:07.560 of the heavens and the earth the unmade un eternal god of all of the all of creation

00:09:14.400 and you're sat there going yeah but can i explain to you why that's very mean a secular human right

00:09:19.620 exactly what what exactly what about the human rights that the state has given you have you

00:09:23.780 thought about this it's like no he he thinks of he's going to get paradise now he literally thinks

00:09:28.040 he's in paradise well he would have thought that yes if he wasn't dead so it's like you you guys

00:09:32.240 just have no frame of reference to deal with this man no but do you think these people ever have a

00:09:37.160 moment of self-doubt no no no of course not one of course not they they they believe that they

00:09:42.960 can save the world and they believe that angela merkel did a wonderful thing and that uh if only

00:09:47.620 we were nicer to him he wouldn't have wanted to kill us whereas it's literally the opposite it's

00:09:52.560 because you appear so pathetic and weak in his eyes that you invite his aggression there was a

00:09:58.060 here we go like like this he's a permanent member of the panel ideologies and conspiracy narratives

00:10:03.960 that's exactly if we can just intercede in his narrative then oh well we can change him and we

00:10:10.940 can peel this away and underneath a universal liberal human will bloom and say oh yeah you

00:10:15.840 were right we are for human rights we are for gay rights we are for all of these things yes i am

00:10:20.320 secretly that thing underneath it all that's what he genuinely is literally the opposite of it what

00:10:25.340 he believes is that the natural religion of all men is islam yes and that everybody who isn't

00:10:31.060 following islam is just misguided wrong or evil and that they need to be subdued by violence until

00:10:38.000 they accept this truth and and all of these so if you try to subdue him by any other means he will

00:10:42.960 not understand it but moreover you can't approach him and persuade him you're a decent person when

00:10:47.660 fundamentally you are an atheist and materialist correct he thinks you deny his god that is an

00:10:55.620 evil thing in his mind that's why he went on a murderous rampage yes because you all deny the

00:11:02.380 truth and reality of Allah that's so like presenting him with a bunch of like secular

00:11:08.000 liberal atheists being like hi can we sit down and talk about feminism yeah and it didn't have to be

00:11:12.060 him he is a statistic in this when you have these numbers there will be people who just cook off

00:11:18.800 and go in this direction in proportion to the numbers and it happens all the time and it will

00:11:23.280 keep on happening and if it's not a terrorist attack it's a rape and if it's not a rape it's

00:11:27.220 a murder it's not a murder it's a theft and if it's not a theft it's a scam it's just they don't

00:11:33.320 view you as legitimate to begin with especially people like these especially these kinds of

00:11:43.240 individuals you think he respects when some like empty-headed blonde woman with a ridiculous

00:11:48.660 qualification in feminism or intersectionality sits down and tries to explain anything to him

00:11:54.080 do you think he respects that person like this is ridiculous absolutely ridiculous

00:11:59.240 and so we got the regular reaction got someone killed as well well they got somebody killed

00:12:06.000 but this is but this is an acceptable price to pay this is an acceptable sacrifice if you are

00:12:12.740 going to reach the utopia of multiculturalism. Some lives have to be lost, and these guys just

00:12:21.660 accept it. They accept this cost. Oh, we failed him. But if we keep on trying, we can change that

00:12:28.260 community rather than what's actually happening, which is your community being changed. That's

00:12:33.160 what's actually happening. So you live under blasphemy laws. You live under the constant fear

00:12:39.660 of attack you live in a two-tier system your own community is changing they're not and it's

00:12:44.820 completely theological for these people as well yes it's it is genuinely a belief and you sort

00:12:50.080 of see the cynicism of somebody like Sadiq Khan my thoughts are with everyone affected by the

00:12:55.380 horrific attack in Berlin and their families this appalling act of violence has no place in our

00:12:59.880 society London stands with in solidarity with Berlin's LGBT whatever community this is why

00:13:06.160 pride matters people like you give it a place in society well but this guy was just a hajj

00:13:12.540 yeah that's so it he went and shaved his head yes for going on the hajj exactly and it's very

00:13:19.360 interesting it's like far-right orthodox islamism for me lgbtq plus for thee and you know he

00:13:28.220 sidesteps the whole prayer issue nicely because if you don't go to hajj if you don't believe in

00:13:33.280 prayer he doesn't pray he says my thoughts with everyone and so which islamically you're not

00:13:37.740 allowed to pray for the dead infidels oh okay interesting so whereas in christianity you can

00:13:43.060 say pray for everyone can pray for everyone you should uh but you know different rules here i

00:13:49.840 know atheists who get really offended when christians say i'm praying for you but what

00:13:52.460 they mean is i'm thinking of you and i want the best for you it's always a very kind thing when

00:13:57.000 a christian says that to you it'd be more than thinking but yes sure sure but you know what i

00:14:01.380 mean like yes i i understand from the atheist perspective this means that they're projecting

00:14:06.380 goodwill in your direction it's a very kind thing like so uh you know there's no need to get hung up

00:14:11.120 on that if a christian says that nice it's something nice to you like that if you're an

00:14:14.400 atheist fyi anyway so he sort of sidesteps this whole thing yeah but uh you know sorry just go on

00:14:22.720 what i love about this well this this is very cunningly worded right my thoughts are with

00:14:27.180 everyone affected not my prayers obviously my religion is for us not you obviously our religion

00:14:33.360 no no he was completely separate to you um but this appalling act of violence is no place in

00:14:38.060 our society it was in their society how's our our just shared no no germany and britain are

00:14:44.020 famously one country this is the shared libtard society i've fought a war over that issue nope

00:14:48.960 and then london stands no the the incorporated like state of london stands in solidarity

00:14:55.900 to Berlin's LGBTQ plus community.

00:14:58.740 This is why Prime Minister reinforced the progressive narrative

00:15:00.880 that has led to this attack in the first place, right?

00:15:05.200 Which is also the progressive narrative that made him mayor.

00:15:09.080 Absolutely.

00:15:09.920 It's provided him with everything.

00:15:11.420 It's brought his community here.

00:15:13.100 It's facilitating these attacks.

00:15:15.420 Yes.

00:15:15.680 And as I'm sure we'll see in a moment,

00:15:17.060 it defends the community that just attacked them.

00:15:20.260 Of course.

00:15:20.600 And it's just a shockingly underhanded message from Sadiq Khan.

00:15:25.360 Yes.

00:15:25.540 shockingly yes yes uh polanski sends his love and solidarity same thing it doesn't even think

00:15:34.060 about mentioning i mean he doesn't want to upset more than ali does he no no he can't upset his

00:15:39.260 deputy and his core voter base uh again the green party actually a brilliant example of this

00:15:45.880 active contradiction at the moment moth and ali did he send his love to the lgbt community

00:15:51.620 i don't know i doubt it i really doubt it um sure he might have said something me mealy-mouthed

00:15:59.940 and then you hear here on the uh lbc basically uh concerns as to whether or not this is an

00:16:06.940 immigration debate he was on a list of particularly dangerous extremists we have a migration debate

00:16:11.480 once again well it's only because the german government literally went and grabbed him by the

00:16:15.220 collar and dragged him back to germany so he could be given the libtard processing

00:16:19.780 yeah the immigration debate isn't going to go away obviously and then they obviously warn about how

00:16:26.580 the far right is going to benefit from this yeah we're going to weaponize it we're going to

00:16:29.920 politicize the hell out of this we're never going to stop well this is we're going to bring this up

00:16:33.840 in 10 years time like you bring up joe cox just fyi well that that's coming too uh and then you

00:16:40.040 see this lady here in germany um who was saying she'd hoped it was a christian a white person

00:16:48.000 who had done the attack for the sake of diversity yeah i mean that's literally it i mean sake of

00:16:53.240 diversity they wish it was you that had done this yeah yeah as opposed to facing reality or anything

00:16:59.140 of that sort which kind of again confirms the idea that this is a cult it's a religion this is a

00:17:04.020 well yes uh that this is a theological way of thinking not a logical way it has its sacraments

00:17:13.540 it has its beliefs, it has its priests, it has its holy texts,

00:17:16.240 and now it has its human sacrifices.

00:17:18.700 That's what we're witnessing right now.

00:17:20.320 This is a human sacrifice to diversity.

00:17:22.440 Precisely.

00:17:23.080 And you see the organizers, a group called Christopher's Street,

00:17:28.800 whatever it is, in Berlin, basically saying people are trying

00:17:33.740 to divide our society and set some people against others.

00:17:38.140 We will not allow this.

00:17:40.400 Don't use yesterday's attack for political ends.

00:17:43.120 that's all i'm going to use it for but that's what it was it was the attack was a political

00:17:48.560 statement islam is a fundamentally political religion that seeks worldly power to order

00:17:54.380 the world in the way that it sees fit so is liberal they have decided that islam is a part

00:17:59.440 of our constituency against the white christian western cultures and therefore if you use this

00:18:05.260 against us essentially you are taking away a part of our arsenal against you because what they share

00:18:10.580 with Islam, what the alliance is actually based on is the shared hatred of Western civilization

00:18:15.460 and the intent to absolutely destroy it. This is the anti-religion, this is the anti-Christianity

00:18:23.300 that is manifest in today's liberalism. And if it sees Islam as an ally, it's going to work with

00:18:28.960 Islam, even as Muslims go around murdering them and running them over. This is what I mean. This

00:18:34.300 is an acceptable casualty. This is a human sacrifice. It's understood. They're taking one

00:18:39.140 for the team we will have to bleed for our religion they are taking one for the exactly

00:18:42.320 we understand we will our religion will create martyrs yes is what they're saying and it's like

00:18:48.080 oh yeah i believe you even to the very natural conclusion of the thing which is that eventually

00:18:53.860 if you allow such events as what happened this weekend to continue you will never have a pride

00:18:59.420 event again now don't get wrong that's like no sorrow to me but like at the same time i obviously

00:19:03.780 don't think violence should be inflicted on people for it this is this is the this is what

00:19:09.600 they've chosen this is what they wanted and this is what they're getting and they're willing to

00:19:14.040 pay the price if it means that in the end you destroy the civilized exactly they're not even

00:19:18.660 nimby's when it comes to this yes they're saying no no we will sacrifice ourselves to protect the

00:19:23.920 political project yes okay that's crazy but at least we've got the masks off right at least

00:19:29.700 everyone is just coming out and saying no no we are actually going to stand in defense of the

00:19:33.380 jihadi as he kills us yes so okay okay okay okay i i'm glad to see it yeah i'd see the honesty

00:19:40.120 uh and you saw some comments from frederick mertz the uh wonderful chancellor of germany

00:19:48.760 who said that this comes from stupid sayings and bad jokes that paved the way for the attack

00:19:54.080 So basically, making jokes about transistors, about certain behaviors that we would view as inferior to monogamous marriage is the actual underlying cause.

00:20:12.560 according to Mertz, gave a eulogy for the person killed and for the victims in general,

00:20:19.360 didn't once mentioned Islam, Islamism, immigration, the actual underlying causes

00:20:27.400 that brought this, because mentioning them would discredit his project.

00:20:31.900 And Firas, forgive me for cutting in as well, but whilst we've been recording this now,

00:20:36.480 whilst we're live on air, there has been a stabbing of three women in Paris as well

00:20:41.280 by a man who has said,

00:20:43.380 it was Allah who ordered me to do it.

00:20:46.980 I guess he's in for a...

00:20:48.200 As we're on air discussing.

00:20:49.380 Melanchon will make apologies for this.

00:20:51.600 I guess he's in for a lot of therapy after this, isn't he?

00:20:54.180 Yeah.

00:20:54.840 Melanchon will make apologies for this.

00:20:57.660 The left will excuse this

00:20:59.820 and say that it is somehow acceptable.

00:21:03.700 And they will insist on the idea that,

00:21:07.680 as Mertz said,

00:21:08.760 intolerance, inclusion, discrimination, stupid sayings, and bad jokes are actually part of this

00:21:15.060 kind of violence. No, no, no. In a way, he's kind of right. As in, if you are capable of thinking

00:21:25.980 an exclusionary thought, in the same way, if you have a country, that's the first step towards

00:21:30.060 being a Nazi. If you're capable of thinking an exclusionary thought, that is you being able to

00:21:36.440 draw the distinction between you know the the muslim the islamist and the gay community and

00:21:40.520 therefore it's only because he can distinguish between these two things that he is able to

00:21:44.620 attack the gay community so yeah okay in a way that's true but what you're saying is i need to

00:21:50.760 abandon the the the innate human capacity for judgment and discernment i must not be able to

00:21:56.860 tell the difference between anything in the world yes it's not going to happen like there's i can't

00:22:01.220 imagine anything more utopian than saying no people must not be able to tell the difference

00:22:05.820 between two things it's like sorry get lost angels in heaven have a hierarchy there is order

00:22:12.980 heaven is the hierarchical and has incredible borders and we call it heaven yes and so utopians

00:22:20.040 who want that yeah are literally sending you to hell yeah they're literally sending the west

00:22:27.500 to hell i don't enjoy many evangelical quips but hell has open borders is a very good one

00:22:33.760 Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.

00:22:39.780 And if you read the speech, it's crazy.

00:22:42.660 He believes that more action by politicians

00:22:44.960 will somehow magically transform this.

00:22:47.520 We will do everything to protect the freedom of our country

00:22:50.100 and our society.

00:22:52.080 Apart from deportation.

00:22:53.520 Apart from deportation.

00:22:54.440 We're going to import journalists.

00:22:56.800 And all those who believe they are dividing our country

00:22:58.820 with their beliefs and actions, hatred, scorn,

00:23:01.840 to them I want to say,

00:23:02.780 we will do everything that we can thoughtfully but with great determination to prevent exactly that

00:23:08.360 so he managed to turn it into attack against the right no no but also okay uh we will do everything

00:23:16.100 i can who wants to yeah again to those who are dividing anything say to those who are thinking

00:23:21.580 yeah and there is a difference between different groups of people yeah that there is a difference

00:23:26.520 which there obviously is by their own admission because otherwise what the hell is multicultural

00:23:31.400 what's diversity yeah exactly uh to those we're gonna go after you not after the actual ideology

00:23:41.720 that led to this attack forget that well he's been forget that therapy i mean you know yeah

00:23:46.920 well clearly mertz could use some therapy uh and then you see this kind of thing yeah this is the

00:23:55.400 entire libtard class this is a reporter for ntv who's just like the queer community naturally

00:24:01.280 feels threatened above all by right-wing forces really that's amazing the the the thing is it's

00:24:09.840 impossible this kind of language makes it impossible to think because as right-wing goes

00:24:14.940 islam is pretty right-wing it's just that the political leadership of european muslims is

00:24:20.880 allied with the european left and they deliver the votes to the european left yeah um but they

00:24:27.940 don't see islam as part of the right they see it as part of the left because of their diversity

00:24:32.400 it's part of their coalition because diversity and because the only purpose of that coalition

00:24:37.500 is simply dismantle and destroy western civilization that's the whole purpose of it

00:24:42.340 they would rather live under islamists attacking them you know semi-regularly than they were just

00:24:48.760 having their pride parades defunded yes by the local state yeah essentially yeah essentially

00:24:54.800 uh and then you see this lady saying you're not going to scapegoat the muslim community like

00:25:03.220 they're the violent ones when it's actually white men who are the violent ones i mean you're reaching

00:25:10.520 levels of mental illness here that are genuinely unbelievable it's also not true yeah i mean it's

00:25:17.100 also not if you thought white men were actually as violent you wouldn't like for example they don't

00:25:22.720 make jokes about the muslim community right we used to in the early 2000s there were there's a

00:25:27.440 harry hill comedy show going around on twitter at the moment being like oh my god this guy was

00:25:31.320 ragging on like muslim driving school or whatever in like 2002 so yeah when they were like two

00:25:36.180 percent of the population and nobody really had very much experience of islam you you we made

00:25:40.320 jokes about them because we didn't think they'd go mental about it um but you know that white men

00:25:44.960 won't go mental about it therefore you make all you rag on us as much as you want because you know

00:25:49.400 that we're not just going to do something terrible.

00:25:51.320 And so you can say whatever you like,

00:25:53.860 but a Muslim just drove his car into a pride parade

00:25:57.040 and you're calling us bad people.

00:26:00.780 I mean, this is just like in Gorton and Denton,

00:26:03.160 where Hannah the Plumber was like,

00:26:05.200 oh, you're the reason for the Manchester Arena bombing.

00:26:07.860 That is a fundamental part.

00:26:10.640 And it goes back to the Enoch Powell debate.

00:26:12.900 What's his name?

00:26:13.920 Jonathan Miller.

00:26:14.500 Jonathan Miller, where he was saying,

00:26:16.220 because you notice these differences, you're the problem.

00:26:18.620 Exactly, and it just goes to show that they have absolutely no idea why the Islamists are doing it.

00:26:23.380 They just don't know.

00:26:24.060 They don't have a mental model for them.

00:26:25.560 They have a mental model for you, and that's it.

00:26:27.380 You're a bad person because you're a white man.

00:26:28.900 Yes, that's the extent of it.

00:26:30.780 That's the extent of it.

00:26:32.660 And somebody pointed out that Dostoevsky has spoken about this kind of female irrationality

00:26:39.620 when describing how progressive Russian women were throwing flowers at Turkish war prisoners.

00:26:44.860 and the turks were rather famous for uh their unfriendly behavior towards slavs yes

00:26:55.240 um awful i mean there are in in croat it's the same thing sorry the the the sentimentalism as

00:27:05.460 he expresses it see how humane we are in croatia there are like mausoleums that are filled with

00:27:12.880 skulls that the Turks

00:27:15.040 from people who are beheaded

00:27:16.980 by Turks. Yeah.

00:27:18.620 It's absolutely full of them. It's like an

00:27:20.880 Aztec temple.

00:27:23.040 Okay. Alright. So this mindset

00:27:25.020 is pretty

00:27:26.260 pervasive.

00:27:28.700 You see Nigel Farage commenting about this

00:27:30.980 and the alliance between the

00:27:33.020 left and the Islamists.

00:27:34.860 But the point is that, you know,

00:27:37.340 it can't last. It'll last until

00:27:39.080 the white man is destroyed.

00:27:41.000 That's what he misses.

00:27:42.160 And therefore, that makes his own attempt at casting himself as both conservative and pro-LGBT so incoherent.

00:27:53.440 This is a coalition intended to destroy civilization and you personally.

00:27:58.960 You will never appease them by trying to play to their liberal sensibilities.

00:28:05.640 They don't care. You just look weak when you do this.

00:28:08.180 Did you forget that two weeks ago, Anne Widdicombe was bludgeoned to death in her home by a leftist, Nigel?

00:28:13.340 Why aren't you making...

00:28:14.160 I'll just tweet out about that every now and again.

00:28:16.640 Just like, do you remember that one of the most famous politicians in Britain was just killed in her home by some lefty?

00:28:22.800 Yes.

00:28:23.100 In the middle of the day.

00:28:23.960 An elderly woman bashed to death with a hammer.

00:28:27.520 This is just like, well, I don't think the alliance between the Islamists and the LGBT is going to last.

00:28:32.000 It's going to last as long as they need it to last.

00:28:35.260 And they don't care how many casualties they take.

00:28:37.340 until you're utterly destroyed,

00:28:39.360 so please stop cucking.

00:28:41.340 And they will literally absorb the attrition.

00:28:43.900 They're literally telling us,

00:28:45.120 hey, no, we'll just take it, it's fine.

00:28:46.360 They absolutely don't care.

00:28:47.840 Madness.

00:28:48.960 But you get even more unhinged takes.

00:28:54.300 Basically, this is MP Kate Osborne of Labour

00:28:57.920 blaming reform for the attack.

00:29:01.980 I mean, of all the people involved

00:29:03.780 who might be responsible for it,

00:29:05.420 actually Nigel Farage is pretty low on that

00:29:07.880 list

00:29:08.400 if you're not going to blame the jihadi, blame Merkel

00:29:13.980 if you're not going to blame

00:29:15.700 Merkel, blame her successors for not

00:29:17.680 undoing what she did. Blame the German government

00:29:19.640 for literally dragging him back into Germany

00:29:20.940 or blame the deradicalisation program for failing

00:29:23.540 for failing, yeah. Anything! Blame the local

00:29:25.720 city council for not putting up

00:29:27.660 bollards of peace, like to protect

00:29:29.820 the parade, like

00:29:30.900 but also the idea that

00:29:33.740 this entire other separate you know civilization you know in the arab world couldn't come to

00:29:40.440 naturally anti-gay sentiments of its own choice i mean it would require europeans to put it into

00:29:46.940 their heads that is insane any elzut jokes anybody watching this if you make any elzut comments i

00:29:53.940 don't want to hear them keep them in your head um you get chris bryant basically being asked you

00:30:00.720 know uh this whole thing he's the labor mp for the ronda by the way yeah and he's asked you know

00:30:10.060 can you mention who did this and he goes no no we're gonna wait for the police to say something

00:30:15.180 they said they said who it was they've told us they identified him we know his name he was

00:30:20.380 we know his background we know how did of being a jihadi this is just so the courts and the police

00:30:27.280 have spoken but cowardice absolutely yeah no no no no this is moral commitment yeah that's true

00:30:34.680 yes this is moral commitment he's willing to lie for his beliefs he's practicing his own version

00:30:39.960 of takia yes he is he's practicing his own version of takia so don't don't make any mistakes he's not

00:30:44.560 a coward that's true he's actually pretty brave he's going through it you've got me and plowing

00:30:50.760 through just as a quick reminder on this whole politicization thing remember when the original

00:30:56.520 Berlin attack happened

00:30:58.440 that I mentioned to you earlier, the 2016

00:31:00.600 car ramming? Well,

00:31:02.560 at the time, Joe Cox's

00:31:04.640 husband went out to attack Nigel Farage

00:31:06.780 for blaming Angela Merkel.

00:31:08.900 So when they tell you don't politicize

00:31:10.980 this, this is against

00:31:12.520 Akia.

00:31:14.000 This is against Akia. That's what they're doing.

00:31:16.460 We are completely at liberty to politicize

00:31:18.700 political murder.

00:31:20.500 Actually. Well, as you heard the saying,

00:31:22.280 I hoped it would be a white Christian man.

00:31:24.260 And if it had been, which it wouldn't have been,

00:31:26.060 because when's the last time you'd have heard about it?

00:31:28.020 Never have heard the end of it.

00:31:28.940 It would have been absolutely politicized.

00:31:30.920 I mean, just the thing the other day,

00:31:31.960 sorry, I know this is dragging on a bit,

00:31:33.420 but like I saw them saying,

00:31:34.880 oh, Anne Whittacombe's family

00:31:35.780 wouldn't want the murder politicized.

00:31:38.120 Well, I mean, one, she was a spinster.

00:31:41.600 She didn't have any close family,

00:31:42.740 but two, it was Anne Whittacombe.

00:31:44.840 Like we know-

00:31:45.380 She would politicize everything.

00:31:46.480 Oh yeah, we know what her political views were

00:31:48.260 and they were very stridently on the right.

00:31:50.580 So no, I think we're safe to think-

00:31:52.360 As far as Anne Whittacombe's concerned,

00:31:53.840 if it's not political, it's religious.

00:31:54.920 because these are the only two things we're talking about.

00:31:57.140 Exactly, exactly.

00:31:59.480 But just sort of, you know,

00:32:01.140 the insistence on being mired in this delusion,

00:32:04.580 reactions from Arab audiences, Muslim audiences.

00:32:08.940 Just one dead, why?

00:32:10.840 Yeah.

00:32:11.500 273 laugh reacts.

00:32:13.320 Yeah.

00:32:14.100 No, no, 3,002 laugh reacts.

00:32:16.380 Oh, on that particular one.

00:32:17.040 Oh, yeah, okay, fine.

00:32:18.520 But yeah.

00:32:18.880 On the attack itself out of...

00:32:21.780 Yeah, three.

00:32:22.340 and you see comments here basically all over basically celebrating the killings and

00:32:32.400 and and wishing the guy uh a good life in heaven essentially right some criticism you read arabic

00:32:40.220 yeah yeah a martyr in the name of god god rest his soul uh god rest his soul uh god uh rest his

00:32:49.880 soul and reward him for his good deeds essentially so this is the kind of reaction that you're

00:32:58.620 getting from from the muslim world and uh just as a reminder and and and if they're all those

00:33:05.340 commenters as well are from the muslim world yep all the european well they think that some of

00:33:10.780 them are european citizens yes but some of them are in europe already yeah sure a lot of them are

00:33:15.860 in europe already commenting on this like it's this one i again it's it's just honestly true

00:33:22.060 this this is a country of infidels yeah it is germany is a country of yes as far as he's

00:33:27.440 concerned this is correct he's right about that and uh you know they will not back away from this

00:33:36.120 until they achieve their objective and as this account points out sick of everything uh

00:33:43.000 You know, black-on-black crime doesn't change their minds.

00:33:48.420 Rape data and per capita data doesn't change their minds.

00:33:53.880 Novak, Broadhurst, Lee Rigby, the Manchester Arena bombing,

00:34:01.880 and none of this affected them.

00:34:03.840 Stop expecting them to change.

00:34:05.280 Yes.

00:34:05.640 Completely correct.

00:34:06.320 This is all part of the plan as far as they're concerned.

00:34:08.180 This is working as far as they're concerned,

00:34:10.160 and they're not going to stop.

00:34:11.500 and at the same time the nudge units that keep telling you to accept this won't stop

00:34:16.160 no you see them broadcasting on the brandenburg gate the berlin stands together against the

00:34:24.160 evil far right presumably which is led by people not involved in any of this story who were the

00:34:31.500 only people that involved but who are also led by a member of that community yeah alex videl

00:34:38.180 whose partner is a Sri Lankan and she's adopted two boys with her. So these are not rational people

00:34:47.380 that are engaging in any good faith activity. They want civilization destroyed. They will partner

00:34:54.520 with the Muslims to do it. They will accept their own loss of life to do it. They will go all the

00:35:00.420 way and they will not change completely correct um xavier says i just want to say that england

00:35:10.260 lost a legend today good old bill oddy yeah i know gutty hey and sir just then says from an anime

00:35:15.260 back when anime was based uh when a monster fights a demon uh i as a human can only hope they both

00:35:20.640 die quite possibly right okay let's let's move on so elon musk had a recent interview with the

00:35:27.460 editor-in-chief of the economist the one susan minton bedos bedios can't pronounce that right

00:35:34.000 um and it was it was quite an interesting interview um because essentially it's a it's

00:35:39.940 a great follow-up from your segment because it shows us that they truly are completely out on a

00:35:46.520 limb here and they have no intention of addressing any of the problems concretely right and so the

00:35:53.360 the sort of liberal elite that run the not just the politicians but the um the media establishment

00:36:00.220 the think tanks the civil services they they genuinely believe everything's fine and elon

00:36:06.600 musk is a bad person for pointing out that actually not everything is fine right that's

00:36:11.540 the the core of this there is no flaw in their vision ever there are only people the problem

00:36:17.500 is the people pointing out the flaws in every time it's a moral failing on his part yeah he

00:36:22.080 wouldn't go along with it right so i mean it she's she's got the most incredible bio that you can

00:36:26.440 imagine right uh she was born in shropshire the eldest daughter of a former british army officer

00:36:31.220 she was educated in various lovely schools she's got her nice career she was an advisor to the

00:36:36.760 minister of finance in poland uh part of a group headed up by jeffrey sachs of harvard she worked

00:36:42.520 on macroeconomic policy she's a part of the liberal order of europe right and of course

00:36:49.080 it's because of this background that she ends up becoming as she worked for the bbc and whatnot as

00:36:54.720 well uh and like you know she's been on cnn but she's she's completely in enmeshed in the

00:37:01.800 international liberal order and this is of course why she ends up becoming the editor-in-chief for

00:37:07.140 the economist because that's their their establishment yes she was one of the invitees

00:37:10.920 to the 63rd bilderberg conference by the way you know things like this so she's she's completely

00:37:15.820 enmeshed in this system and a superb representative of the system and what's really interesting is

00:37:21.740 just how how tepid her own thinking is yeah it's really poor so i got a bunch of clips out of this

00:37:27.940 one of them was great right she she understood elon is an an adversary and so she has to have

00:37:33.720 a go at him over starlink ukraine and russia this is just incredible incredible my interest is really

00:37:40.560 on whether you think, given that you have, through Starlink,

00:37:43.460 you have an incredible power,

00:37:45.700 whether it's appropriate that you should wield it.

00:37:49.040 That's quite rare, that an individual actor has such power

00:37:52.780 by turning on and off a capability to shape conflict.

00:37:56.980 Well, is there something you think I should do differently?

00:38:01.740 I mean, I think you were right to support Ukraine.

00:38:04.080 I think...

00:38:04.960 She goes on going, no.

00:38:06.960 Look at the...

00:38:08.460 no i because he's the other side of the question is that power should be in our hands

00:38:15.180 of course it is yeah yeah exactly that should be for us exactly sorry when you were at the

00:38:20.420 bilderberg conference were you like well i'm a bit curious about how much power do you guys at

00:38:25.740 the bilderberg conference have exactly that would be a question to ask trustee of the carnegie

00:38:30.760 endowment for international peace a member of the research advisory because because in her world

00:38:35.780 if it's all done by committee then that's the dispersal power it's like not really because

00:38:42.000 you all agree so you may as well just be the one person who you you all vote you know i mean the

00:38:47.100 committee allows them to escape responsibility exactly that's what it does whereas musk takes

00:38:52.320 responsibility i own starlink i own neural link i i own this and that yeah it's mine it's exactly

00:38:58.700 that like the the accountability is actually in the almost answer he's like well what do you think

00:39:02.520 i should have done better and she's just like nothing okay well great then he did a good job

00:39:08.600 didn't he starlink they're literally guiding ukrainian drones into russian refineries into

00:39:14.380 russian warehouse like but they're providing ukrainians with internet access that the russians

00:39:18.740 can't take away as well right and total all of the communications of ukraine depend on elon musk

00:39:24.900 yeah exactly and good and and so she's like well is that a good thing is that what should it do

00:39:29.280 It's like, nothing. What would a committee have done differently?

00:39:31.520 Probably screw it up, right?

00:39:33.160 But anyway, so, she then says, well, USAID.

00:39:37.060 USAID's bad, isn't it? Cutting that was bad, wasn't it?

00:39:39.900 It's like, no, not really.

00:39:41.200 I have... We don't need to relitigate, Doge.

00:39:43.100 I have no doubt that there was...

00:39:45.160 There's a lot of waste in the US government.

00:39:48.240 I think, probably...

00:39:49.240 Much worse than anyone could possibly imagine.

00:39:51.240 But the way... I think there is...

00:39:53.000 It is a fair criticism that the way you shut down

00:39:55.480 a whole bunch of programs probably,

00:39:57.300 In fact, it certainly caused unnecessary suffering.

00:40:00.060 No.

00:40:00.880 No?

00:40:03.080 You don't buy that at all?

00:40:04.820 It caused a lot of complaining.

00:40:06.860 So you don't buy the idea that anybody,

00:40:09.420 to put it really crudely and simply,

00:40:10.860 any kid in Africa died because of the suddenness with which...

00:40:14.400 Zero.

00:40:15.600 I just don't think that's right.

00:40:17.080 I just don't think...

00:40:18.020 I mean, I've had people reporting in Africa who...

00:40:20.460 How many NGOs are there that could step in?

00:40:23.960 Because bear in mind, it happened quickly,

00:40:28.040 and there are literally tens of thousands of NGOs.

00:40:31.840 Not everyone functions as fast as you do.

00:40:34.060 If funding is cut off for antiretrovirals overnight,

00:40:37.720 and it just stops, then people will die

00:40:40.560 when they don't have access to them.

00:40:42.360 No, only if they cannot get funding for that.

00:40:45.100 But the Gates Foundation has $50 billion.

00:40:48.020 What about them?

00:40:51.080 Great question.

00:40:52.160 Why isn't it their job?

00:40:53.620 If you believe that this is your job, do it.

00:40:55.900 Exactly.

00:40:56.520 But notice that she's giving everything away here.

00:40:58.720 Yeah, no, USAID was literally a sort of development slush fund for Africa.

00:41:03.180 As in the Africans are just dependents on the American taxpayer.

00:41:07.380 And without that, I mean, you can't expect them to get along.

00:41:09.660 Apparently, electricity output went down because of that.

00:41:12.560 Why can't you make your own power?

00:41:15.000 If you can't, that means you don't really want it, right?

00:41:18.360 The technology is right there.

00:41:19.700 You're using it right now.

00:41:21.020 if you need someone else's money to keep that going.

00:41:24.400 That means you just don't want it.

00:41:25.460 You're not prioritizing it, right?

00:41:27.040 So it's just not, you know,

00:41:28.340 if Africa doesn't want electricity,

00:41:29.680 if Africa doesn't want antivirals,

00:41:31.600 if Africa doesn't want these things,

00:41:32.500 then fine, you don't have them.

00:41:33.980 Why should the Americans have to pay for it?

00:41:35.920 And if someone's got to pay for it,

00:41:37.400 why aren't these charities doing it?

00:41:39.020 Why is it never Bill Gates?

00:41:40.400 Why is it never George Soros?

00:41:41.580 Why is it never the Melinda,

00:41:43.360 no, the Jeff Bezos' wife's one.

00:41:47.060 And Steve Jobs' wife.

00:41:48.100 Yeah, and Steve Jobs.

00:41:48.740 Why isn't it their job?

00:41:49.720 No, it's Elon's job.

00:41:50.720 it's the american taxpayers yeah yeah yeah not happy with it right um so good on him but then

00:41:55.580 she gets to the real so she spends most of the interview talking about ai with him right now

00:42:01.700 it's not that it's a bad conversation it's just not very politically interesting um so we'll put

00:42:07.840 that to the side and then you get you get to the end right it's the end of the interview where it's

00:42:11.860 interesting because she's obviously like right i've been polite for long enough i've asked him

00:42:15.200 like the shop questions for long enough now i'm going to complain that you're far right well first

00:42:20.180 First of all, you support not just the populist right, but the far-right, in fact, very fringe

00:42:23.840 parties in some countries.

00:42:24.840 No, I support the normal people, what you call the far-right, falsely.

00:42:29.680 You think it's the normal person.

00:42:31.680 OK.

00:42:32.680 Yes.

00:42:33.680 Literally, you could go back 10 or 15 years, and these policies were completely normal.

00:42:40.060 In fact, one of the tricks I think is funny, one of the tricks I think is quite funny is

00:42:45.680 to, like, take a speech from Obama and Hillary

00:42:48.940 and then go to someone, say,

00:42:51.600 who's sort of, you know,

00:42:54.140 on the sort of what I call the lunatic left

00:42:56.060 and say, what do you think of the speech by Trump?

00:42:58.940 Like, oh, wow, he's the worst person ever.

00:43:00.860 Actually, that was a speech by Obama.

00:43:02.920 Or actually, that was a speech by Hillary.

00:43:06.940 Literally.

00:43:07.700 No, I agree that the center of gravity in this country

00:43:10.200 has shifted, certainly the Democratic Party

00:43:11.720 has shifted to the left,

00:43:12.420 but that's not what I'm talking about.

00:43:13.340 I'm talking about people like Rupert Lowe.

00:43:14.500 Fringe right, please. It's actually just normal people. It's just normal people. It's just normal people. And here are the principles. And tell me which of these sound terrible. That we should have secure borders, that we should have safe cities, that we should have sensible spending. Which of those three are far right fringe?

00:43:34.780 and i would like to just admonish you and the media for the absurd characterization of the

00:43:43.800 far right which is false and misleading and nonsense so what i like about this is she just

00:43:51.040 concedes everything he's saying so well yeah i mean i i agree that everything's gone really far

00:43:55.000 to the left but i don't want to talk about these far right fringes like rupert lowe it's like but

00:43:58.960 rupert lowe is just a normal guy from 30 40 years ago yeah right and but also what's contained within

00:44:04.460 this is well I mean Rupert Lowe said yeah but if you concede we've gone very far to the left

00:44:09.140 and actually a bunch of the things that Elon was saying secure borders low government spending all

00:44:13.860 this sort of thing all those things are actually good things that we should be doing then some

00:44:17.940 corrective measure is necessary which is forbidden and what does the corrective measure look like

00:44:22.820 blasphemous it's far right it's slashing government spending on benefits for foreigners

00:44:27.620 oh that's racist right no it's normal and it's how things should be it's making sure we mass

00:44:32.440 deport illegal immigrants no that's normal it's how things should be it's making sure that criminals

00:44:36.900 are actually punished i mean literally annie burnham i mean it was keir starmer's first act

00:44:41.920 to let a bunch of criminals out and annie burnham is thinking about the same thing so oh we're going

00:44:46.880 to let a bunch of criminal no punishing criminals is normal but this must be a very confusing time

00:44:52.160 for them given the you know she for most of her life will have grown up being presumably liberal

00:44:57.940 from the way that she's speaking, surrounded by conservatives,

00:45:01.480 at least in Britain, who always just accepted

00:45:05.080 whatever the latest encroachment of leftist ideology was

00:45:08.840 and then just went from there.

00:45:10.480 So far right just means any attempt to reverse those things.

00:45:14.740 And that's what they despise, the fact that all of it can actually be,

00:45:18.960 we can have an entire change of direction.

00:45:21.540 Yeah, and far right functionally works in the same way

00:45:25.200 that heretic or blasphemer works.

00:45:28.080 In a religious context.

00:45:29.120 Yes.

00:45:29.280 Because it means that you haven't bought into the latest blessings of the liberal utopia,

00:45:38.160 and therefore you are rejecting divine grace, and therefore you are a heretic or a blasphemer.

00:45:43.560 If you hear that word as heretic or blasphemer, it loses all meaning.

00:45:49.740 Yes.

00:45:50.060 Because then you understand that actually this is a theological conflict.

00:45:52.980 Correct.

00:45:53.820 And so, anyway, moving on.

00:45:55.300 She doesn't think that civil war is coming to England.

00:45:57.880 she doesn't think there are any problems in England, really.

00:45:59.800 Quote, civil war in Britain is inevitable.

00:46:02.580 Just a question of when.

00:46:03.080 On the current trends, yes.

00:46:05.260 When were you last in the UK?

00:46:08.780 A few years ago.

00:46:09.800 Exactly.

00:46:10.540 So I live there.

00:46:11.980 I'm there the whole time.

00:46:12.760 That is nonsense.

00:46:13.500 You live out of cloistered existence.

00:46:14.860 No, I don't, actually.

00:46:19.000 I mean, I love the way she's acting.

00:46:22.540 When was the last time you were in England?

00:46:24.100 As if being in England is something

00:46:25.740 only she has a privilege of having access to now we all live in england all right things are rough

00:46:30.680 here susan thank you very much she did uh a kind of a little interview uh talking about this interview

00:46:37.020 that she had done i just want to i just want to bring i just want to watch it just to contextualize

00:46:41.500 what i want to show next i said to him that he supports not just the populist right in europe

00:46:47.080 but the far right fringe groups that are you know nowhere near the mainstream and do actually

00:46:53.280 propagate, not just, you know, the three characteristics he said, but really divisive

00:46:58.180 far-right politics. I think that's undoubted. And I think many of these politicians wouldn't

00:47:01.580 be anywhere without Elon Musk's support. And I asked him why. And the reason I did that is

00:47:06.480 because he also propagates a kind of caricatured view of Europe, that it is some sort of hellhole

00:47:13.120 overrun with Muslim immigrants, incredibly violent. And as you heard him say, he has said

00:47:19.940 that england is heading for civil war and i wanted to know when he was last there because i i feel

00:47:24.440 very strongly that this is a profound mischaracterization of europe and not it's

00:47:29.540 irresponsible for someone who has 240 million followers to propagate things that are simply not

00:47:34.920 true jonathan miller point the charisma of your office is leading people to think this it's not

00:47:40.940 that i mean i love the i don't live a sequestered cloistered life at all sorry whose office are you

00:47:46.260 in here is this your office that's a lot of that's a very nice little office you've got there

00:47:50.140 but this this whole thing is just remarkable it just when were you there well i'm here right now

00:47:56.220 and i'm telling you it's it's bad right but go on i was just going to say as well that it's not but

00:48:00.540 this entire talk of race war isn't just coming from the native european peoples who were talking

00:48:06.880 about the fact that well there's a demographic replacement there's like the cultural vandalism

00:48:11.240 there's the obvious uh shifting of power within our institutions to favor the foreigner

00:48:16.380 It's the fact that you also have all of these Facebook groups

00:48:19.680 and TikToks and all sorts from the immigrant communities themselves

00:48:23.720 who are also saying, yeah, things are starting to get looking

00:48:26.620 really dicey out there as well.

00:48:28.380 They're saying it too.

00:48:29.420 This is not something that the right is saying,

00:48:31.600 there's going to be a race world, there's going to be a race world.

00:48:33.700 This is all sides of the conflict.

00:48:36.420 Muslims are going on to training camps.

00:48:39.220 She's saying that they're preparing for a conflict.

00:48:40.520 No, no, no, no, she thinks everything's fine.

00:48:42.100 Everything's fine.

00:48:42.580 And the numbers also disprove what you say.

00:48:45.300 What numbers?

00:48:45.460 She's got numbers.

00:48:46.460 All the numbers about...

00:48:47.460 London is a much safer city than any city in the United States.

00:48:50.460 Violent crime in the UK is not where you think it is.

00:48:52.460 In fact, it's coming down.

00:48:53.460 You have painted, and because you have so many followers,

00:48:56.460 so many Americans believe it, a kind of view that...

00:48:59.460 Europe and the UK are kind of, you know,

00:49:02.460 overrun with terrifying Muslim immigrants.

00:49:05.460 There's rape on every corner.

00:49:07.460 There's a sort of civilizational destruction.

00:49:09.460 I haven't said any of those things.

00:49:10.460 It's just not...

00:49:11.460 When you say civil war in Britain is inevitable, and then...

00:49:13.460 Yes, if current trends continue, it is.

00:49:15.460 right as if a civil war is a consequence of crime rates right it's not a consequence of

00:49:22.540 crime rates it's a consequence of people feeling that they are losing their country and the country

00:49:26.480 is being stolen stolen away from them politically right a civil war is the consequence of two

00:49:31.680 irreconcilable worldviews coming into conflict right it is not a consequence of how much crime

00:49:37.280 there is right that's something else so not only does she have a delusional perspective on this

00:49:43.060 right but we are in the middle of a rape epidemic by the way just she's like oh crime's coming down

00:49:48.540 and it's like okay it's coming down because the numbers are staggering right the numbers are

00:49:54.860 unbelievable it's almost impossible to make the numbers go up they are so high so to be like oh

00:50:00.880 they're coming down because in the last like six months they've done everything they've restored

00:50:04.940 boris's racist stop and search uh policies and things like this right because sadiq khan ran on

00:50:10.420 i'm going to stop stop and search knife crime went through the roof and now they've brought it

00:50:14.040 back in and it's slightly going down a bit it's like okay that that doesn't undo any of the

00:50:19.060 terrible things that have happened it doesn't change the fact that we have got 10 times the

00:50:22.760 number of rapes happening in this country than we did 20 years ago right these this these are not

00:50:28.060 good numbers for the libtards right and even if they were that still doesn't mean there's not a

00:50:32.760 civil war coming a civil war doesn't have to be high crime that is the cause of it right because

00:50:38.900 people just want millions gone they just want millions gone the you gov found when i get to it

00:50:45.200 uh where's down here somewhere i don't know there's somewhere in here there's a uh i think

00:50:54.380 i've gone past it is it samson can we um turn off the background thing because it's not loaded

00:50:58.980 properly there are gaps here but um basically uh you gov found that 44 percent of people uh just

00:51:07.500 want millions to go in fact here it is sorry can we thank you uh admit no new migrants and require

00:51:15.620 a large number of migrants who came to the uk in recent years to leave 44 sorry 45 percent

00:51:21.380 of people and then on the other side you've got 44 who are like well i'm not really in favor of

00:51:26.800 that so okay that's the kind of number that you're looking for that's the kind of numbers that make

00:51:32.600 it democratically unresolvable and it's requiring other answers exactly and it's it's the kind of

00:51:39.580 numbers you think right okay actually we can see the the the late the landscape of the civil war

00:51:44.860 appearing before us half the country wants millions to go half the country don't want

00:51:49.660 millions to go and something has to be resolved yeah and she is on the side of the people who

00:51:55.540 would say to go back to that segment i was doing last week about manchester you know when you've

00:52:00.200 got those young little english mancunian lads just saying yeah there's just drugs and knife

00:52:04.180 crime everywhere and it's like and her her response is yeah and your future is more than that

00:52:08.800 more of that yeah other than no it's not yeah have you looked at these numbers i have on this

00:52:13.340 spreadsheet i don't care about your numbers on the spreadsheet i don't feel safe walking through

00:52:17.240 swindon town center i'm sorry she shouldn't bring up crime numbers when only five percent of crimes

00:52:21.940 are solved yeah that's another like she shouldn't bring up that conversation to begin with but civil

00:52:27.300 wars are not about criminality they're about political struggles there is there are two

00:52:32.260 competing visions of the future of the country one is let's just descend into absolute anarchy

00:52:37.900 and have mass demographic replacement and see how liberalism shakes out and the other is normal

00:52:43.380 people are like no i just want millions gone yeah the question is genuinely whether or not we even

00:52:48.380 have a country yes yeah do do the english own england do the scottish own scotland do the welsh

00:52:54.700 and whales that's the question that's being asked at the moment and she's like yeah but look at my

00:52:58.660 crime numbers it's like that's it doesn't matter if every single one was some sort of buddhist monk

00:53:03.460 if there are 50 million of them allowed into the country and we are literally forced into the sea

00:53:08.680 because of this mass immigration i don't care if they're all complete pacifists who are kind to

00:53:13.940 animals just irrelevant get out of my country you know and this is what um this chap ali mirage

00:53:20.560 was saying on lbc i mean why would lbc the the biggest talk radio station in britain be having

00:53:26.940 conversations like this if there was just nothing to worry about we keep hearing about these

00:53:30.680 attacks and as i say we can't draw conclusions yet about you know what the motive was or whether it

00:53:36.600 was this guy or someone else but what we can draw a conclusion about is that these things happen

00:53:42.300 quite a lot don't they they happen a lot they're not always uh committed by uh people who are of

00:53:48.640 a Muslim faith at all but often they are too often they are and I say this as a Muslim and it deeply

00:53:57.720 deeply concerns me it has concerned me for many many years as those of you who listen to my shows

00:54:01.840 regularly will know and I think that we have to have a conversation up front and broadly about

00:54:10.340 something simmering beneath the surface right because it's not going to go away and it's just

00:54:13.680 simply getting worse and that's and that's this is diversity still our strength britain might be

00:54:21.320 heading to a very i don't mean to laugh profound isn't that just the stupid earth scattering yeah

00:54:28.740 but like just like you know what this is this we seem to be heading into a point of profound

00:54:35.980 tensions i think civil war is on the cards is diversity still our strength let's go to sadiq

00:54:40.660 khan for his like it's ridiculous and of course you'll remember the uh south port riots in 2024

00:54:47.360 right there's a great map in this look these this was all over the country these were people

00:54:53.440 rioting because they thought axel rudikabana was a muslim man who'd stabbed three or eight children

00:54:58.580 and killed three right turns out he wasn't a muslim he was just a rwandan african man right

00:55:03.340 but either way these were ethnic riots all over the country where people and many attacks on

00:55:09.580 hotels and stuff and i'm not encouraging anything but like you can't sit there and go no no no what

00:55:13.320 are you talking about actually fine the real problem is fascists everywhere actually the

00:55:18.000 the demographics are fine why well if if you have uh a large uh and growing rapidly growing

00:55:27.640 uh group of people whose beliefs are antithetical to western beliefs um at some point there will be

00:55:36.980 a reckoning that they will they will try to implement their views and those who oppose it

00:55:43.300 will oppose it and that's what you call civil war completely correct it's not about crime statistics

00:55:49.440 it's about what the ordering of the country ought to be the political order of the country the

00:55:54.580 dispensation of the country and so okay well can she engage with this no you are just a fascist i

00:56:01.520 mean sorry there's a quick thing here she thinks immigration has gone great by the way she thinks

00:56:05.660 that Britain has handled immigration brilliantly.

00:56:07.500 Do you think that's appropriate?

00:56:08.740 No, and we've written editorials against it.

00:56:10.540 Okay, great. That's the sort of thing that I think is bad.

00:56:13.340 And I think if you... And I agree with you,

00:56:14.880 but I don't think you have to glorify vigilante violence

00:56:18.180 and kind of, you know, post the things that you are doing

00:56:21.880 and paint an entirely inaccurate picture of Europe that you do.

00:56:24.980 I don't think it is.

00:56:27.020 We should do a tour of the UK.

00:56:29.260 Yes, and one of Brussels, too.

00:56:30.760 The UK has actually been very good at integrating immigrants.

00:56:35.660 Sorry, when Robert Jenrick has to admit that integration isn't happening

00:56:39.780 and it's not working, the conversation has to stop somewhere.

00:56:46.980 Why is he even wasting his time talking?

00:56:49.160 These are not people who are willing to change their minds.

00:56:51.780 The thing is as well, the entire landscape of British politics now,

00:56:56.240 on the one hand, you've got Restore Britain, which millions must leave.

00:56:59.680 Great, all for that.

00:57:01.100 But then you've got Reform UK, who are being dragged over

00:57:04.420 to restore his position.

00:57:06.540 You then have the Conservative Party saying,

00:57:10.500 yeah, we failed on immigration, we're so sorry,

00:57:12.640 obviously never forgive them.

00:57:14.000 And then you've got the Labour Party

00:57:15.520 trying to toughen up its optics as well.

00:57:18.160 Every single party, apart from the Greens and the Lib Dems

00:57:22.140 and the weird SNP fringe and everything,

00:57:25.960 every single one of them are like,

00:57:27.180 yeah, the direction of travel for messaging

00:57:29.940 has to go anti-immigration

00:57:32.260 because that is where the temperature

00:57:34.220 of most of the people in the country is.

00:57:36.240 And she's like, it's been a wonderful success story.

00:57:40.180 Absolutely delusional.

00:57:41.640 By what metric is it a success?

00:57:45.600 In what way?

00:57:48.020 Great question.

00:57:49.020 Magnitude of the issue.

00:57:50.900 I also think that your interventions,

00:57:53.800 however well-intentioned they may be,

00:57:56.500 risk making Europe's problem a lot worse.

00:57:58.740 How?

00:57:59.500 Because you are putting your support behind people

00:58:02.160 who are proto-authoritarians who are not trying simply to you know make sure there is better

00:58:08.420 integration of muslims or to to secure the borders but who have very clear fascist tendencies and you

00:58:14.960 will cause huge divisions within europe i think what you're saying is total fiction um and really

00:58:21.360 uh i i'm simply saying that there needs to be there needs to that europe has to have secure

00:58:26.860 borders totally reasonable but no so like i don't know i'd like to ideologize this right oh no i

00:58:33.800 like i i concede on everything you know but i don't want to fix any of the problems because

00:58:38.020 i have an ideological category that i'm going to impose upon you it's like look man i just want

00:58:42.920 millions gone i don't care what you call me i just want millions gone millions gone with the

00:58:47.960 consent of the majority proto-authoritarian bringing millions in against your will without

00:58:52.840 a lick of consent not authoritarian totally democratic yeah but it's because she's just a

00:58:57.840 libtard right she defines her liberal values for us and they are they are tepid really really tepid

00:59:05.120 but what we stand for as you as you know is liberal values traditional classical liberal values

00:59:12.560 where we worry about concentrations of power and we believe in the individual and the dignity of

00:59:18.300 and individual freedom and I firmly believe that and I have long thought that you were a classical

00:59:24.960 liberal but when I read what you post classical liberal J.S. Mill limited government individual

00:59:31.880 freedom yeah Elon's an Anglo um but I love that just John Stuart Mill oh yeah he has

00:59:40.340 considerations on representative government is it's really timely actually I'm glad that's

00:59:45.000 arrived i mean england was only 99.999 percent white english when that was written i mean it's

00:59:51.260 exactly the same as now right nothing's changed has it well not according to susan it is weird

00:59:59.160 blank slateism completely which again is essentially a sort of john stuart miller

01:00:04.780 games the blank slate oh i can't remember i remember i fact check me on that but anyway

01:00:10.580 i mean no no but you are right it's this this the the ideology that has become liberalism

01:00:15.760 has come out of all of these strands yes and so eventually it just takes on this therapeutic

01:00:22.040 utilitarian managerial system uh aspect in the system it's like okay but none of that is sufficient

01:00:29.400 and it's not going to solve any of the problems and honestly good on elon for just calling them

01:00:33.400 straight out about this to their faces just like no i think this is all nonsense i don't accept

01:00:37.960 your premises i don't accept your position and i think that you don't realize just how hated you

01:00:43.040 are we for the sake of time we'll save this but um but that's the point they are just oh come on

01:00:47.560 it's just 45 seconds oh god but i also think that the kind of polarized environment particularly on

01:00:55.500 social media fostered by the kinds of things you are pushing on x actually helps this makes it worse

01:01:01.080 I don't think so.

01:01:05.080 I think you're the problem, the media.

01:01:08.080 And speaking of loathing, you're loathe far more than I am.

01:01:13.080 And you don't seem to even realize that.

01:01:15.080 I think very few people know who I am relative to you,

01:01:17.080 so I don't think I play in the same game.

01:01:19.080 The media collectively.

01:01:20.080 But we know you're kind.

01:01:21.080 So, I mean, you're hated.

01:01:26.080 Do you even know that? You probably don't.

01:01:29.080 I like to think that I'm aware of my own personal shortcomings

01:01:33.500 and The Economist's shortcomings and our worldview shortcomings.

01:01:37.020 What?

01:01:38.100 I don't think you are.

01:01:39.760 Absolutely ridiculous.

01:01:41.680 I mean, the idea that you mean, I'm aware of our ideologies,

01:01:46.640 our worldview shortcomings.

01:01:48.480 No, I mean, you seem to have done no intellectual development.

01:01:51.400 If you were, you wouldn't have this worldview.

01:01:53.160 Exactly.

01:01:53.680 You would understand that actually there is something more than simply

01:01:56.920 the atomic individual who exists outside of society and the the status is god to provide

01:02:02.380 him with his rights you you would have had a thought past this and even like okay i can

01:02:08.180 understand if you if this were like 1980 and like margaret thatcher is having an argument

01:02:12.500 with like neil kinnick or whoever else like i can understand how this could come up then

01:02:17.200 but how can it come up in the year of all or 2026 when we've got jihadis conducting terror

01:02:22.260 attacks into pride parades where it's like well i'm just concerned about the liberty of the

01:02:25.760 individual on the lack of concentration of power in the state so if you looked at our government

01:02:30.480 like what what world do you live in anyway we'll leave it there uh if you would like to read

01:02:38.160 something that isn't actually trapped in 1982 and actually has been people who have thought about

01:02:45.540 liberalism and the post-liberal paradigm into which we're going islander six is on shop.loses.com

01:02:51.480 it's a brilliant read if i do say so myself because i wrote in it uh get it while you can

01:02:55.500 all right um shall i just say uh that's random man says elon's mistake is trying to tell this

01:03:02.880 woman that you are you are hated means you the establishment but her uh solipsistic nature is

01:03:08.600 an immovable object no no it's not i mean that probably is part of it but for them what it is

01:03:13.620 is uh if i um uh personalize it and take myself out of the con like take the conversation out of

01:03:21.200 the the institution then i can avoid having to address that yeah maybe um all right then ladies

01:03:28.360 and gentlemen so since zach polanski became leader of the green party back in september of last year

01:03:34.520 there's no denying that behind him the party developed a fair bit of momentum you know they

01:03:39.700 were all over the news somewhat by design of course uh but also as well he was perfect for

01:03:45.980 them because he was ideological to a fault and you know whatever I think about him which is of

01:03:52.140 course not a lot he led a very or is leading a very energetic campaign there's no denying that

01:03:58.640 it's an energetic campaign and you can understand why for someone young who perhaps hasn't developed

01:04:04.380 their political ideas so well that they will be sucked into it especially when the Green Party

01:04:10.460 was running itself chiefly off of vibes and also off of envy and hate,

01:04:15.780 which are very, very powerful tools for these sorts of things.

01:04:19.640 And, you know, they profited from it.

01:04:21.940 They ended up winning the Gorton and Denton by-election.

01:04:24.680 They also ended up winning over 520 council seats at the local council elections.

01:04:30.220 And I think they took four councils just under total green majority control as well.

01:04:36.580 And so they have actually had a good pace about them.

01:04:40.460 And if you were a member of the Green Party and you wanted them to do well,

01:04:44.440 for the longest, for the time since Zach Polanski's come in,

01:04:47.480 that momentum would have been very, very encouraging to you.

01:04:50.620 However, it's stalled.

01:04:52.420 And the reason partly that the Green Party's momentum has stalled

01:04:56.920 is because the Green Party has lost its greatest weapon in their fight,

01:05:01.700 which is Keir Starmer.

01:05:04.740 That's probably true.

01:05:06.420 Right?

01:05:06.600 he was in the same way that everyone is like having to they were calling starmer far right

01:05:12.700 oh yeah yeah just as a sort of you know no absolutely they were absolutely insane but

01:05:19.060 fortunately not everything is insane one such example islander magazine ladies and gentlemen

01:05:24.540 it's on the store carl and i and many other great writers such as will tanner reactionary reading

01:05:30.140 law and some other fantastic writers as well have written many many essays in it talking all about

01:05:36.120 the theme of what is to be done. Because as you've probably noticed, it's all getting a little bit

01:05:42.320 sticky out there. And we're coming up to the 11th hour. And so you can get all of our thoughts by

01:05:48.860 going over to the Lotus Eats website and ordering your issue of Islander Six. So we can see here

01:05:55.940 that a few days ago, it said the Green Party has today registered their lowest polling share,

01:06:01.160 8% since Zach Polanski was elected as their leader back in September of last year. Now,

01:06:07.560 if we go through this more, we can see that Labour have had the slightest bump up because of

01:06:14.820 Burnham. We can see that reform is still doing very well as well. But we can see that the Greens

01:06:20.460 are down by minus three. Now, that is noticeable. That is a noticeable dip. And the other thing as

01:06:27.560 well is just to say that when you go to the favourability of party leaders, very few have a

01:06:33.880 positive impression of Zach Polanski. And really, there are only 6%, the smallest of them, who have

01:06:40.420 a very favourable view of them, and the rest are only somewhat favourable. However, when we look

01:06:47.000 at the negative side of the aisle, we can see that that amasses something over 50%.

01:06:53.160 i said this right at the start right the zach polanski actually used to enjoy a fairly positive

01:06:58.560 approval rating yes because nobody knew who he was and i kept saying no exposure to zach polanski

01:07:05.200 is going to be brilliant because basically he's saying look the immigrants are fine which needs

01:07:09.060 steal from the rich it's like no no nobody wants that and so like the the the percentage of people

01:07:14.860 who are actually yeah do i want some uh sort of you know carnival sideshow man to like

01:07:22.280 mess around with the cups and deceive me and and drag me down this lunatic route that's actually

01:07:28.720 maybe yeah yeah that's yeah maybe uh that that's a very small percentage of the population actually

01:07:33.820 wants that right and zach polanski has this kind of inauthenticity in the way he speaks

01:07:38.180 he speaks directly in these these ideological terms to i said this at the beginning as well

01:07:42.940 he's only gathering the faithful he's not winning new converts right so okay you've gathered the

01:07:48.120 progressive faithful into the green party good for you but that's actually only a small percentage

01:07:52.760 of the country and the rest of the country finds you repugnant actually reviles what you're trying

01:07:59.540 to sell yes uh so honestly i wanted zach polanski in everyone's faces and also he's just hideous to

01:08:04.540 behold like sorry if you keep putting this hideous man who's obviously trying to grift me in my face

01:08:11.380 and say hey guys don't we just need to give more money to immigrants no get out of my country let's

01:08:16.860 And then rip off Britain by unleashing every penny of the state

01:08:21.660 and giving it to people who've just arrived.

01:08:24.940 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:25.960 That is the policy.

01:08:27.120 Yeah, I know, I know.

01:08:28.180 Literally the policy.

01:08:29.460 But it was obvious this was never going to last.

01:08:31.260 Yes.

01:08:31.620 This little honeymoon period he enjoyed,

01:08:34.240 it was clear that this was never going to last.

01:08:35.740 Absolutely.

01:08:36.520 And, you know, even though, I mean, for us,

01:08:39.300 from the perspective of Andy Burnham come in,

01:08:41.260 it's all still very much business as usual.

01:08:43.480 as usual it's not required any great recalibration on our parts in terms of our campaigning in terms

01:08:49.620 of messaging our strategy because he's just the latest in a long line of blairites who we

01:08:56.120 obviously want to overthrow but this is felt obviously far more acutely on the left because

01:09:01.120 andy burnham is their direct rival so i would challenge that andy burnham is a blairite i don't

01:09:06.260 think he's actually a blairite i think a blairite true blairite is like keir starmer right he's a

01:09:10.540 He's a man of the system, right?

01:09:12.060 He believes in the managerial order that dispenses human rights

01:09:15.380 and resources to all and sundry, right?

01:09:18.620 And I don't think that's what Burnham is.

01:09:20.200 I think what Burnham is is a retard.

01:09:22.680 And I think that he genuinely…

01:09:25.600 He's expecting something about his political philosophy,

01:09:27.460 not his mental capacity.

01:09:28.260 I think that is his political philosophy, though, right?

01:09:30.400 It's retarded socialism.

01:09:32.440 So he views the state as this endless…

01:09:35.860 Infinite money machine, right?

01:09:36.840 Infinite magic money.

01:09:37.640 Font of money, yeah.

01:09:38.380 that just is a water full of money that goes on forever and so he just thinks okay well i mean

01:09:43.480 like his his way he's like oh people said it couldn't be done but i've capped bus fares at

01:09:47.560 two pounds like no people that's not the question exactly is that how are you paying for this and

01:09:52.940 it's like i don't know i don't want to be in a hog to the bond market it's like oh okay good

01:09:56.500 and the point being andy is not like he's not like thinking of the integrity of the system in

01:10:02.320 the way kist armor is yes he's thinking i just want to put northerners in little council houses

01:10:07.040 I just have this ideal vision of northerners

01:10:08.660 and little council houses and benefits payments.

01:10:11.240 It's like, okay, he's a retard.

01:10:12.660 Right, got it, understood.

01:10:14.160 And you can see here across the polling averages as well,

01:10:17.160 they're all pointing towards the fact

01:10:18.540 that the Greens are in decline.

01:10:19.900 And obviously you can see that the decline is most steep

01:10:22.460 where Burnham has now just come in.

01:10:24.560 And the other point as well, though...

01:10:26.420 Just quickly on that.

01:10:27.520 Sure.

01:10:27.980 There's that percentage who are also retards

01:10:30.520 who are voting for the Greens because they're retards, right?

01:10:32.940 The Greens are like, yeah, we're just going to give people free money.

01:10:34.840 We're just going to steal it from the rich and give it to you.

01:10:36.040 and Andy Burnham's position is basically no different yes and so those people are like yeah

01:10:40.280 okay I'll vote for Andy Burnham because I mean the Greens are a bit wacky but there's another thing

01:10:45.020 as well which totally vindicates your point Carl which is where you can see here percentage of

01:10:48.800 Britons willing to consider voting Green and ultimately though there are those from July

01:10:54.180 2025 to March of 2026 when this data expires and that slowly they were increasing a share of those

01:11:01.080 who will consider them, the overall total of people,

01:11:05.200 the percentage, as it says, percentage of Britons

01:11:07.840 willing to consider voting Green has not grown whatsoever, really.

01:11:11.700 There is just a hard cap on the number of people in the country

01:11:15.660 who are willing to indulge this total nonsense,

01:11:18.700 this absolutely far-left utopia.

01:11:20.180 It's still very high.

01:11:21.520 Yeah, it's still disturbing.

01:11:22.800 It's still very high.

01:11:24.000 It's enough to make you weep.

01:11:25.280 There's no doubt about it.

01:11:26.680 And to be honest with you, though I'm obviously focusing

01:11:29.160 on the greens here as well there is still the most insufferable part of it at all is that there's

01:11:34.260 still about an 18 19 voter bloc who will still be voting conservative and those are the people that

01:11:40.920 i have the most um impolite thoughts about weirdly it's about the same percentage of people in the

01:11:47.440 country who happen to be pensioners yes yeah odd that so you can see uh zap lansky out here in uh

01:11:54.240 bath and bath hampton uh and you can see talking about uh green party policy on the environment

01:12:00.820 and you know very very white would you believe when it comes to talking about climate change

01:12:06.440 well then i lose supporters this is like when he was why didn't they show up yeah like when he was

01:12:11.160 gay dancing on the stage right and it's like where's moth and ali yeah you've got a guy in

01:12:15.580 leather gyrating next to you what moth and ali not here that's weird it's like he's your deputy

01:12:20.040 leader why would he skip this event right honestly it says wealth taxes rent controls action on

01:12:25.640 climate and a pretty huge crowd ready for with a plan for real change it's like and not free

01:12:30.060 palestine at this place yeah hippies yeah white hippies from glastonbury yeah and so you've got

01:12:34.940 basically you've got as well you're seeing the fact that there's just like one type of green

01:12:39.120 party messaging for the old oh yeah traditional green voter block and then you've obviously got

01:12:45.540 the increasing turn towards as they say here the manchester labor have turned their backs on great

01:12:51.160 manchester's muslims it's not surprising that a genocide party finds it too hard to defend its

01:12:56.600 record it's like i mean i hate labor as much as anyone man but i don't i don't know if i call

01:13:03.340 them the genocide party although maybe we should well you know the demographics yeah yeah well

01:13:10.680 you know maybe it's the genocide party and we're not talking about the same people but

01:13:14.300 Base tape, quick thing, base tape.

01:13:16.340 I almost want a green victory.

01:13:17.820 He's joined the academic agent.

01:13:19.780 Yeah, we do not want this.

01:13:21.600 But I say we don't want a green victory,

01:13:23.940 but we do want at least a good enough showing from the Greens

01:13:27.540 that they can significantly harm the Labour Party chances

01:13:31.480 in the next election.

01:13:32.360 So, Zach, get your shit together.

01:13:34.900 We're counting on you, man.

01:13:37.740 I like that they just come out and say ridiculous things.

01:13:41.700 I want them shoved in everyone's faces.

01:13:43.140 It's like, no, this is what you're getting if you don't think about something.

01:13:47.000 Yeah.

01:13:47.700 And so now we have the real issues that matter to people.

01:13:51.580 Green Party Manchester mayoral candidate pledges to twin Manchester with the Palestinian city of Ramallah.

01:13:58.760 Now, in this as well, Geraldine Coggins will unveil the proposal on Friday,

01:14:04.860 saying that a partnership with the West Bank city of Ramallah will create opportunities for long-term collaboration between the cities,

01:14:12.160 by which she most likely means just importing Palestinian refugees long-term collaboration

01:14:17.360 like i i honestly just also retarded i know well it's really hitting the important

01:14:24.460 beats isn't it and this is this is what i needed okay but the other thing as well is that obviously

01:14:31.620 so i've you know just the other month of course i was in maker field speaking to all sorts of

01:14:37.140 people on the doorstep speaking to people on the streets and obviously with that being

01:14:41.040 an overwhelmingly english constituency it's not that anyone was pro-palestine or really worried

01:14:47.180 about the plight of jews or like you know safety of israel it just never came up really this entire

01:14:52.320 conversation never bloody came up and yet what happens when you have a city like manchester

01:14:59.100 which has been overridden with third worldists well we know in gordon and denton right we do

01:15:04.500 there's a pillar of the campaign exactly um and so all of this is entirely predictable and then

01:15:10.260 as well you have the fact that zach polanski was originally uh tepidly kind to andy burnham he's

01:15:15.680 like well you know i hope he does a good job and i'll support him with what he does but then it's

01:15:19.140 like the mask is coming off andy burnham used to support rent controls because there was a

01:15:24.380 significant crisis in the rental because he was a retard yes zach polanski is a bigger retard

01:15:29.540 that's fine but once again we get the the exact moment you've got the greens going my god the man

01:15:35.260 who's just gotten into government realized that his wish list couldn't be enacted on day one yeah

01:15:41.500 it's like well it will be when i get in control it's like that's literally it like the past seven

01:15:48.720 prime ministers will be like oh all right i can't do anything yeah zach polanski though um and so

01:15:53.900 they are undoubtedly going to obviously they're going to have to start campaigning hard against

01:15:59.020 burnham because they're in real danger of losing a lot of those green party voters who would come

01:16:04.620 over due to um the um you know disenchantment with kia starmer you know that's exactly it they

01:16:12.220 picked up a lot of labor voters because kia starmer just was so so contemptuous of the left

01:16:18.980 in his party i mean again we're in the post-starmer era and i already miss him man but to be fair he

01:16:23.500 was contemptuous of everybody yeah of course but i knew like i i didn't expect he was going to be

01:16:28.240 on my side right like for me it was like oh a labor prime minister well that's an enemy you

01:16:32.480 For them, it's just like, oh, hello, Mr. Keir Starmer.

01:16:34.680 Can we have some nice socialist stuff?

01:16:36.540 And Keir Starmer's like, get out of my party.

01:16:38.760 I've kicked Jeremy Corbyn out and I'm going to kick you out.

01:16:41.400 Just that clip of him going, get off.

01:16:42.420 Oh, you're an anti-Semite.

01:16:44.640 Just fuck off.

01:16:46.880 I enjoyed watching Keir Starmer stamping on his radicals.

01:16:50.980 I thought that was great.

01:16:51.720 But the question is now, do Burnham and Polanski end up in a competition

01:16:55.560 over who can be more retarded?

01:16:57.620 Yes.

01:16:58.020 Yes.

01:16:58.320 Burnham has to sort of fight off Farah from this side.

01:17:00.680 It's the only place they can go, right?

01:17:02.060 Because everyone to the right is fighting over

01:17:04.620 who can deport the most immigrants.

01:17:06.320 And there's nowhere else they can go on this.

01:17:08.740 The British public's mindset,

01:17:10.160 no, we don't want any more immigration.

01:17:12.080 We want millions to go.

01:17:13.080 So Shibana Mumu's like, yeah, yeah, I've got immigration down.

01:17:15.160 And Kemi Badenow's like, I'm not really an immigrant, honestly, Gov.

01:17:18.220 And even Nigel Farage is like, yeah, actually,

01:17:21.800 I do want my name to mass deportations now.

01:17:24.180 And of course, Rupert Lowe is just standing there

01:17:25.960 like some looming, ominous figure in the background.

01:17:28.620 It's like, I'm going to crush you all.

01:17:30.000 Where else can the left go?

01:17:32.060 oh, well, we promise we'll destroy the economy quicker.

01:17:34.840 Oh, no, no, we promise we'll destroy the economy quicker.

01:17:36.840 It's like, okay, great.

01:17:37.760 Let's keep going as far as we can to the left on the economy

01:17:40.440 because this will never persuade people.

01:17:43.420 They have to go full retard.

01:17:44.620 They have to go full retard.

01:17:45.720 It's the only way.

01:17:47.260 And so they get into the point where now all of a sudden

01:17:49.800 we've got the Guardian obviously giving an impact assessment.

01:17:52.280 This was earlier on as well where, you know,

01:17:54.400 at the start of this month, but also everyone knew.

01:17:57.060 And the Green Party, you know, obviously knew

01:17:59.500 that this was going to have to change them as well

01:18:01.540 with the arrival of Andy Burnham.

01:18:03.360 But we ultimately get to the point where the Guardian are reporting

01:18:05.960 the shift was notable.

01:18:07.500 A week after Keir Starmer said he would resign,

01:18:09.960 YouGov polling showed that Labour was up two points

01:18:12.160 and the Green were down by the same amount.

01:18:14.400 Might an Andy Burnham premiership mean a rethink

01:18:16.780 for Zak Polanski's party?

01:18:18.660 The problem is that even if the Green Party were to do

01:18:24.860 some genuine soul-searching in terms of detailed policy,

01:18:28.560 even if it's progressive and I hate it and I disagree with it,

01:18:31.160 Right. You got me there. Yeah, I got nothing. But the point is that ultimately there is only one reason. It is as close to a single issue party as we have with the SNP and Pai Cumbria, which in their terms of separatism, which is that all of the Muslims, they're not in it because they're in it for power.

01:18:51.520 Weirdly, that single issue is communism and the death of the West.

01:18:54.080 Yes.

01:18:54.700 You'd have thought it'd be the environment, but no.

01:18:56.640 That's what unites them, actually. That's what unites them with the Muslims.

01:18:59.000 Hatred of white people.

01:18:59.880 There is a single issue for the young people who are getting involved in it.

01:19:04.980 There is a single issue for the pensioners who are still like, you know, eco-nuts and everything.

01:19:09.820 And then there is a single issue for the Muslim voter bloc that is rising exponentially within its actual power within the party itself.

01:19:20.220 Like that is the one that is becoming the dominant voice over the party.

01:19:24.800 Green was for environmentalism. Green is for Islam.

01:19:27.560 What are you talking about?

01:19:29.880 And let's face it, you know, these Muslim voter blocks are not the most considerate when it comes to people from other backgrounds in the United Kingdom.

01:19:41.980 And because of the nature of the way that the Green Party decides its policy by basically having it all discussed at party conferences with the people who attend there and that they vote as a form of direct democracy on it.

01:19:55.640 It's like, well, if the people who are going to attend it are not those who used to be the environmentalists, but those who are now using it as the Trojan horse for Islam, they are the people feeling themselves ascendant who are going to have the largest voice in the direction of the party.

01:20:11.960 and ultimately the more islamic that the party becomes the more it's the more tone deaf that is

01:20:18.240 going to appear to the rest of the country yes and the more it's going to create a nature of

01:20:23.300 diminishing returns within the party itself so even if they do want to draw people back from

01:20:28.940 burnham because let's not you know beat about the bush burnham is going to disappoint many many

01:20:34.120 liberals and progressives right he is not going to do because he won't he's kept in the the deep

01:20:39.580 states straight jacket just like everyone was before them and everyone even the ones up in

01:20:45.300 makerfields like oh well you know i like andy i'll give him a chance it's like yeah i'd like andy

01:20:50.820 burnham to raise my taxes i didn't like it when keir starmer raised my taxes yeah i would prefer

01:20:55.420 like that's what this boils down to um and so you get and you constantly just get stories like this

01:21:01.920 and ultimately it's not just bear in mind this is a bbc it's going to be widely read stuff like

01:21:06.840 this it's not um it's the fact that ultimately you can see here green gains the uh labor lose

01:21:12.920 control of lewisham and lambeth now this was reported on may the 9th let's just fast forward

01:21:18.540 to july 24th only a few months later green leg council won't resist immigration raids so within

01:21:25.760 the space of a few months we've now got them saying oh yeah and by the way we're not going

01:21:30.200 to be caught they're trying to do like what mamdani said that he'd do in new york whole

01:21:35.060 sanctuary cities yeah that's what they're going to try and do they're like well we're just not

01:21:38.820 going to cooperate where legally possible with the government we're not going to share information

01:21:43.320 with them we're certainly not going to be taking resources from them etc etc and this is despite

01:21:48.940 the fact that the data shows that 117 raids occurred in se 13 during 2025 and according

01:21:56.660 to the home office immigration enforcement teams carried out nearly 2715 illegal working visits

01:22:04.080 and raids in London during 2025, resulting in 2,172 arrests.

01:22:10.420 And people have been doubting Siobhan and Mahmood.

01:22:12.720 But bear in mind as well, these numbers are still going to be on the low end

01:22:17.360 because they're going to have only the most tepid cooperation

01:22:20.460 from people like Sadiq Khan and the help of the Metropolitan Police Service

01:22:25.520 because they're entirely captured

01:22:27.460 and they obviously actually don't want these people to be removed from the country.

01:22:33.140 But fortunately, we have good green councillors

01:22:36.480 like How You Tam proposing, you know, motions like this

01:22:42.260 that then get passed.

01:22:44.400 How You Tam?

01:22:45.300 How You Tam.

01:22:47.880 And so...

01:22:49.000 It's coming from a guy called Firas Modat.

01:22:53.000 Yeah, what are you laughing at?

01:22:58.760 You got me.

01:22:59.540 need a sensible name like luca yeah um anyway so we get to the point where it's like okay well

01:23:06.120 they're just really going to have to restring uh rethink their strategy in the era the burnham era

01:23:11.620 this glorious era that we now find ourselves in and a green party source agreed that burnham

01:23:16.700 presents a new challenge quoted as saying we need to review our political strategy in light of

01:23:21.160 burnham and part of the reason for that is we don't that's fair enough we don't know which

01:23:25.440 version of burnham was going to turn up yet uh said the source added burnham doesn't know either

01:23:32.140 the source added that the greens could not assume the political conditions that fueled their recent

01:23:37.900 rise will continue the path and the space a party have been on in the last few months is not

01:23:42.720 necessarily going to be the same as the one that's going to be going on for the next couple of years

01:23:46.660 they continued there's a lot of concern in the party that we have to play our role in stopping

01:23:51.440 reform rather than target seats that would otherwise be Labour. Otherwise, we're not a

01:23:57.340 part of the solution of avoiding the huge risk of a Farage-led government. And so you see them in

01:24:02.840 this position now where obviously they see the internal weakness of the Labour Party and they

01:24:09.460 want to capitalise on it, but they don't want to capitalise on it so much that they hand

01:24:15.320 victory over to reform uk thereby bringing about the nightmare apocalypse of the last containment

01:24:23.300 valve of the system um which they think is much scarier uh than it actually is um and we come to

01:24:31.420 the fact that as we say they are never ever going to compromise on the question of immigration even

01:24:38.260 where it may be expedient to lie and say like tony blair did and just say oh yeah we're not

01:24:45.940 going to do that and then do that once you have power no they are so ideologically committed not

01:24:51.420 just ideologically committed to this but within the very makeup of who is a part of their party

01:24:57.600 it would they cannot back away from this hill and so you have mothin ali deputy leader of the party

01:25:04.580 writing only um only a few days ago my parents came to this country from bangladesh for me

01:25:10.520 immigration is not a political football it's my family's reality and it's the story of millions

01:25:16.020 of people who have helped build modern britain what i love about this emotional nonsense

01:25:20.780 no no i'm fine with that he's guilty yeah me and my family and all these millions helped build

01:25:26.980 modern britain right you're to blame got it understood you're taking credit i i agree that

01:25:31.380 you are to blame for this yeah but also as well it's like my family's reality it's like okay

01:25:36.220 what about my family's reality what about the english's family reality okay get out of my

01:25:41.540 country right it's like if those are going to be the appeals then there are still more of us who

01:25:47.100 can make that appeal than there is to people like moth and ally and he says i am a deputy leader of

01:25:52.420 a national political party today because of the upbringing my parents gave me i would not be

01:25:57.580 writing these words without the opportunities that they built i will never apologize for who i am

01:26:02.520 however much the color of my skin on my religion upsets some the green party is unafraid to say

01:26:08.560 with our full chests that too many politicians are frightened to say immigration has enriched

01:26:14.920 our country economically culturally socially in every way our diversity is our strength but when

01:26:22.540 he says our country he means bangladesh of course and he means remittances yes so yeah true yeah

01:26:27.060 Yeah, fair enough.

01:26:28.200 The colonisation of England has enriched Bangladesh.

01:26:30.400 I agree, Martin.

01:26:31.100 Yeah, got us there.

01:26:32.080 Anyway, for the sake of time,

01:26:34.100 a quick summary will just be that

01:26:36.260 Andy Burnham has certainly stalled the Labour Party

01:26:39.600 and ultimately the Green Party is too committed

01:26:44.360 to its sacred cows to have any political nous

01:26:48.320 to really, I think, regain the momentum.

01:26:51.000 If it does regain momentum and start climbing in the polls again,

01:26:54.480 It will be entirely because of the failures of Andy Burnham

01:26:58.140 and in spite of the Green Party itself.

01:27:04.180 Base Ape says for $2.

01:27:05.840 I almost, oh right, yeah, I almost want a Green victory.

01:27:08.120 It's so stupid.

01:27:09.140 No, we're not going through another five years of it.

01:27:11.960 No, no, we end this here and now, 2029.

01:27:15.060 It's got to be.

01:27:16.280 Anyway, video comments, Samson.

01:27:24.480 I don't really see what's going on.

01:27:30.660 No.

01:27:35.540 What's going on, Samson?

01:27:40.260 Oh, all right, then.

01:27:41.140 Well, we'll just go to the next one.

01:27:47.800 Ten days.

01:27:49.640 Took ten days.

01:27:51.600 I've already got.

01:27:53.320 The Islander's six.

01:27:54.480 sitting here in my palatial sunroom

01:27:58.960 and enjoying

01:28:00.760 a late night read

01:28:03.000 very good

01:28:04.960 not bad

01:28:11.620 thank you very much Mike

01:28:12.860 I really hope you enjoy it

01:28:14.140 next one then

01:28:16.200 Mecca Monday

01:28:18.640 it's on Monday again

01:28:20.540 when it comes to the Africanization of the West

01:28:23.080 and other Prague silliness

01:28:24.300 the path to overcoming it is not only obvious it's already happening the normal folks suffer

01:28:29.720 and get upset about it why 80 of americans want voter id but the representatives refuse to pass

01:28:36.100 it things are starting to change but a cargo ship cannot turn on a dime unlike my mech's new torso

01:28:42.000 man you've got to get that loose lead sorted because i was watching that that's catch on

01:28:48.500 that thing and it did and i'm like oh no man come on you'll just wrap it up anyway um we got some

01:28:55.240 great comments there right jimbo's got a great point you know the uh the women in the first

01:28:58.780 segment yep or the uh processors they think they're the rspca of the third world that is

01:29:04.880 that is fantastic that is that is a banger it's so true umar says leftists believe that by denying

01:29:12.660 god their secular beliefs are thus superior to god and only reason not to believe them

01:29:16.680 believe in their morally superior system is a lack of exposure there's another great point which is

01:29:21.920 funny because it's exposure to the system it's radicalizing people against it their determination

01:29:27.100 to learn absolutely nothing could be seen after losing any election their conclusion is always

01:29:30.480 they must not have heard our message but never they don't like it yeah it's so true so so true

01:29:35.660 yeah um okay uh do you want to go through a comment from your segment for us and i'll quickly

01:29:41.640 i no go ahead oh no sorry my segment sorry i'll do him i'll do him he says the majority of the

01:29:47.440 british public when surveyed are in favor of the death penalty so according to this woman maybe

01:29:51.400 half uh more than half the bell curve are off the right hand end of the chart on that topic

01:29:55.080 yeah and it's totally true like half half the british public are basically far right

01:29:58.980 uh in like in what elon was saying is like you know what what they would believe is just far

01:30:03.280 right which isn't normal right this is normal beliefs and half and poll after poll survey

01:30:08.300 have to survey just like half people like yeah yeah i agree with like the most far right position

01:30:13.280 that there is yeah that's true um um henry ashton from my segment says uh some of the green party

01:30:19.860 policies that i've seen turn uh people off them faster than anything else uh 55 mile an hour

01:30:25.080 motorway speed limits and ban all zoos and he makes the point as well those are genuinely they

01:30:30.560 sound like they could come from count bin faces manifesto yeah they actually do there was a another

01:30:36.340 one that i've just accidentally reset my page so i can't see it but another was like you know

01:30:40.040 basically what's the point of comparing like comparing it to u.s cities like well hey that's

01:30:44.220 just a commentary on how bad the u.s cities are right like sorry yeah uh i'm aware that in certain

01:30:49.280 areas there are urban youths who have insane criminality do we have the same thing are we

01:30:56.060 constructing the same thing why would what like how we don't have that problem population yeah not yet

01:31:00.620 If you compare the murder data between the US and London, the same 1358 plays out.

01:31:10.540 It's the same.

01:31:11.000 Exactly.

01:31:12.500 But with, you know, higher numbers in the United States, more access to guns, etc., etc.

01:31:18.020 So they're not making the point they think they're making.

01:31:22.320 Wulud Wututai says, the Green Party is failing and Jeremy Corbyn and your party are rubbing the hands of glee.

01:31:27.060 Finally, it's their time.

01:31:27.980 Zara Sultana won't let that grow

01:31:32.340 I might watch

01:31:35.100 Anyway, I hope you've enjoyed the show today

01:31:38.060 ladies and gentlemen

01:31:38.900 obviously do come back in half an hour

01:31:40.840 to watch Firas on RealPolitik

01:31:42.720 and we'll see you for

01:31:44.280 well, be there for breakfast with Beau

01:31:45.660 obviously tomorrow morning

01:31:46.780 and the podcast in the afternoon

01:31:48.800 Take care, friends

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 27, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1470

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