The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1485

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters, episode 1485 for Monday the 17th of

00:00:06.820 August 2026. I'm your host Luca, joined today by Stelios and Firaz. Hello everyone. Hello.

00:00:12.700 And today we're going to be talking all about the death of Jason Arday, which obviously news of

00:00:19.700 which hit on the Friday evening just after we'd all gone home from work and so obviously a lot

00:00:25.400 has happened over the weekend that we need to catch up on. We're then going to be talking

00:00:29.960 about the second siege of Sueta, because the Spanish government just haven't been doing

00:00:35.680 enough to disincentivise these people. And then we're going to be talking about the cautionary

00:00:40.920 tale of how to make enemies and turn away friends. So good life lessons for all of us,

00:00:46.560 I suspect. With all that said, obviously, it's Monday, so do come back at three o'clock

00:00:52.060 live to have realpolitik with firas yes well you're going to be talking about obviously

00:00:57.360 america and iran by the looks of a thumbnail well the ceasefire is over but now there is news that

00:01:03.680 it's being extended and it sort of reflects the total lack of options and this is immensely

00:01:09.220 benefiting china and russia so we're going to be talking about that as well all right so tune in

00:01:12.620 for that ladies and gentlemen uh also over the weekend the third part in my series with rory

00:01:17.860 discussing lord byron's child harold's pilgrimage uh has come out and there is going to be a fourth

00:01:23.700 part as well uh next week which basically means that for me this has just been byron month uh

00:01:29.240 every single episode of chronicles this month has been about byron but you know what fascinating guy

00:01:35.280 and it's a poem that's well worth discussing and of course just before we get into the main show

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00:02:39.560 with that said then Stelios to you sir right so Jason Hardy has been found dead and personally

00:02:48.640 I'm sad about this I criticized him a lot and that doesn't mean that I'm happy obviously about

00:02:55.580 the sad event of him taking his life and I completely refuse to give in to the pressure

00:03:02.300 coming by very few people telling me that well he wouldn't feel bad if this happened to you or

00:03:08.660 you know just take someone from the other side they wouldn't feel bad about someone died on

00:03:15.060 your side that's not how i think we should ask ourselves when it comes to how to act and how to

00:03:20.960 think about things so i am sad about this and he he leaves behind a a wife and two children

00:03:28.040 yes and whatever we can say about him it is a sad thing that two children are going to

00:03:36.140 to grow up without a father now and also a wife is going to be a widow my segment is going to be

00:03:43.960 about the discourse that has followed his death and i must say here that we shouldn't completely

00:03:51.420 part with reality because this is exactly what it seems to me that several people are trying

00:03:58.940 to get us to do and they are trying to talk about a witch hunt or a social media lynching

00:04:06.440 and say that essentially those of us who criticized him are responsible for his death and i i sorry i

00:04:15.100 i'm not going to admit this and i'm not this is this is false it's not a serious point to make

00:04:20.880 it's not a serious point to make but because it is a point that lots of people are making and it

00:04:26.320 is going to be the establishment's line i think it's worth talking about it instead of brushing

00:04:31.920 it aside saying this comes from a few people who just wanted to virtue signal right so here we have

00:04:38.960 andy burnham the prime minister of the uk saying that the death of former university of cambridge

00:04:44.800 professor jason are there is a tragedy on so many levels and he said that it is a moment of

00:04:51.200 reflection it yes which personally i don't think it's a bad statement about it no it's i mean there

00:04:57.360 should be a reflection but it does depend on where you end up after reflecting yeah of course and

00:05:01.920 honest about that and who burnham expects to be doing the reflecting i imagine as well exactly

00:05:07.040 yeah but i'm going to show you other statements and i'm sure you're going to think that burnham's

00:05:12.720 was much better than these statements okay and i'm not talking about people who are completely

00:05:18.400 unknown i'm talking about politicians and uh intellectuals right so the academic who resigned

00:05:25.500 following a plagiarist morale was found dead at a property in battersea on friday afternoon

00:05:31.200 his family said that they are in shock to have lost this amazing father partner brother uncle

00:05:36.800 and son adding the campaign of misinformation was too much for him and professor arday told

00:05:42.820 a friend he felt he couldn't go on and a voice note sent hours before he died um when it emerged

00:05:50.420 on saturday right so there's a lot to say here i'm not going to talk about the family because

00:05:56.300 i'm respecting the fact that they're grieving but i am going to talk about uh the calls for

00:06:02.680 public scrutiny public inquiry into jason or the witch hunt and i will say first of all i

00:06:09.680 don't think it was a witch hunt i'm sure that it was extremely unpleasant for jason arday and

00:06:17.400 his his friends and i'm sure that part part of it was very negative and involved hits below the

00:06:28.100 belt i think that the overall the overall criticism was fair and one of the reasons why

00:06:35.940 it exploded on social media was because on mainstream media it it sort of wasn't it was

00:06:43.620 put under the carpet as is so often the case yes if you go back to the genesis of it it started with

00:06:50.500 polite emails from academics asking for a comment on from from uh the late mr arday asking for

00:06:59.620 comments about whether or not there was plagiarism for comments about certain claims that he was

00:07:03.860 making yes rather fantastical claims that he was making and his reaction was to uh call the police

00:07:12.820 and say that this was harassment yes and their reaction from cambridge was to say this is just

00:07:17.220 racism now catching somebody committing plagiarism isn't racist by definition it's a question of

00:07:25.780 academic standards um if you've done it you've done it uh and not just academic stat like a

00:07:32.900 general academic standard, but the academic standards of Cambridge University, one of the

00:07:38.800 most famous universities in the world and one of the most prestigious still in Britain. And so the

00:07:45.100 entire reputation of one of our most prestigious universities is in question here. And not just

00:07:51.160 that, you can't complain about a media storm of coverage about him when there was a media storm

00:07:58.540 of favorable coverage about him

00:08:00.560 when all of his fantastical claims

00:08:02.140 were believed

00:08:02.780 and his plagiarism was unexamined.

00:08:07.820 Exactly.

00:08:08.240 If you put him,

00:08:10.160 basically the leftists

00:08:12.140 made him into their own golden calf.

00:08:15.200 They made him into an idol.

00:08:17.460 They used him

00:08:18.540 to sort of further their agenda.

00:08:20.120 It was discovered

00:08:21.720 that actually the man was a fabulist

00:08:23.700 and that was exposed

00:08:25.900 and it met with a commensurate

00:08:28.120 Exactly. And I want to say because I have been through academia and you do see the tendency to massage students, some of which get promoted to then PhD researchers and occasionally they become members of teaching faculty and also research faculty.

00:08:45.920 when you massage people and you think that they are really prone to be psychologically harmed

00:08:52.700 by public scrutiny and criticism don't put them to public facing positions it's as simple as that

00:09:00.860 and when it comes to the accusation of racism again and again and again that we've heard is

00:09:06.200 just when it comes to the people who are saying well no all of academia is plagiarists and they

00:09:12.880 caught him because he was black sorry that's not the case not all academics are plagiarists but

00:09:18.000 i have a i have a solution because i'm really forward looking and i like uh just unleash

00:09:23.920 massive research about it just unleash ai programs find out the plagiarists whoever they are

00:09:31.720 and if you think that academia is a predominantly white institution if you actually are a leftist

00:09:39.100 and you think this, yeah, just by all means,

00:09:41.260 do this and run the checks

00:09:43.220 on every academic who has plagiarized.

00:09:45.780 I'm not going to say, let's not do this

00:09:48.240 or check only Jason Arde.

00:09:50.460 Right, so they're calling here for a public inquiry

00:09:53.460 into, within quotation marks, witch hunt.

00:09:57.340 Sir, can I comment on the term witch hunt?

00:10:00.320 Yeah.

00:10:00.980 It's intended to convey that

00:10:03.220 he was unfairly accused of being a witch.

00:10:07.580 he wasn't unfairly accused there was there wasn't an unfair or false accusation here

00:10:14.100 no and one thing here because since we are talking about responsibility and we will talk

00:10:19.960 about the blame game and the principle according to which um leftists especially radical leftists

00:10:27.120 and establishmentarians use to allocate blame we are going to talk about this but when it comes to

00:10:33.640 responsibility why is it that the responsibility for his death burdens the shoulders of someone

00:10:43.400 other than him given the fact that he did it and if we are to go structuralist about it and talk

00:10:50.280 about the sort of pressures that he felt which doubtlessly he did feel why not why put the why

00:10:58.600 blame people who criticized him on fair grounds and he failed to answer fair criticism and why

00:11:07.800 criticize people who made fair criticisms instead of criticizing for instance the cambridge faculty

00:11:15.960 that treated him as really prone to be psychologically harmed by scrutiny why did

00:11:23.640 they place him to a public facing position why did simon and schuster turn his autobiography

00:11:30.600 into a book that they try to turn it essentially what you mentioned before a golden cuff because

00:11:37.720 his example wasn't an example that they were trying to hide under the carpet exactly they

00:11:44.120 tried to make it as public as possible they tried to make him their diversity flag yes so if he

00:11:51.160 wasn't up to it why was he placed in such a position and also just a very basic question

00:11:57.480 about you know his department why did they accept his resignation instead of saying well listen

00:12:05.000 it's not there's right now a media storm sit on it two three weeks i'm not gonna accept it

00:12:11.640 it's august also there's no teaching going on in august um just take two three weeks to think

00:12:18.200 about it let the media storm die down and we'll talk again then why did why didn't they do this

00:12:26.280 why did because they talk about they talk to talk about the duty of care they didn't care about

00:12:31.400 they were just doing what they believed like in both cases they were just obeying a certain wind

00:12:37.160 and when they hired him he was supposed to be their dei flag yes uh the youngest black professor

00:12:43.720 this that and the other turns out he didn't have the credentials they had enough money to give him

00:12:47.800 a leave of absence or to give him a severance package or to do whatever they wanted they chose

00:12:52.440 not to do that he was forced to resign i think rightly so and he didn't have to end up taking

00:12:59.000 his life he could have spent years telling people how he basically pulled the wool over the entirety

00:13:06.440 of british academia made them all look like fools and what he learned from it he could have gone

00:13:11.800 with a combination of contrition and haha look at what i did to them he chose not to yeah and i will

00:13:18.840 say something and i said this also on the daily video i did and you know which which means that

00:13:26.840 you can't accuse me of inconsistency about this i said that there is a very small degree of truth

00:13:32.920 in the uh in uh what uh people like jason orday and kahinde andrews were saying about

00:13:38.920 the department and academia and this part of truth is that it is actually the case that the

00:13:45.600 people promoting this they don't care about minorities or black people it's mostly wokeness

00:13:52.320 that tries to dominate a department and they're using people like pawns yes so yes i i frankly

00:14:00.920 can believe that they didn't care about him and it's not about it's not about minority and i will

00:14:06.060 say this if if there was a black scholar who was a thomas sowell they would crucify him but

00:14:13.260 but by extension as well it's not just the fact that they clearly didn't actually care about the

00:14:17.500 well-being of this man they didn't care about cambridge that is they didn't care about the

00:14:21.580 well-being of their students they didn't respect their students and money that their students were

00:14:26.460 giving to go to cambridge because if they respected at the time and uh you know all of this stuff

00:14:31.820 Because if they did, they would never have allowed him to lecture there in a place that he wasn't qualified to do.

00:14:37.840 And so it shows a total disrespect for the students as well.

00:14:40.560 It's absolutely the case that they don't respect students and not just Cambridge, but the kind of academia that says the customer is always right.

00:14:50.540 And if the customer wants to insist on ridiculous notions, including notions about their self-conception,

00:14:58.740 and you massage them and they're always right because they're a customer and this is precisely

00:15:05.700 what is destroying uh universities because there's no good teaching there if you treat the teacher

00:15:12.200 they the customer as always right and the teacher and the customer is the student well

00:15:19.520 no you can't tell them no but you can't tell them no when it's when uh they are almost so well or

00:15:26.220 when it's, what's his name, the American jurist, Clarence Thomas, you mean, or Walter Williams

00:15:33.580 before. I think he has sadly died. But yes, it's not about race. They don't care about

00:15:39.900 black scholars. It's about using them as a token to insist that they're good people.

00:15:43.340 Exactly. And they used him to show, look at us, we're so progressive, we're so advanced.

00:15:48.160 And then in the end, it turned out tragic. You can have zero diversity in a workspace

00:15:53.060 and still destroyed by wokeness yes right so we have zara sultana saying here if jason or they were

00:15:59.620 a white middle class academic he would not have been hounded by the british press and the way he

00:16:04.760 was she says that her thoughts are with his loved ones and may he rest in peace well again i think

00:16:10.780 that this is just you know just again silly race baiting because he wasn't he wasn't accused of

00:16:19.200 being black he was accused of being a plagiarist and he couldn't answer these allegations

00:16:25.840 but also when i came before when i talk about the massaging before is just when you are massaging

00:16:32.800 an undergraduate and then a postgraduate or you know someone doing a master's or

00:16:38.880 when you're massaging them you are not preparing them for the real world and in the real world

00:16:45.120 in real life occasionally people will come after you they will criticize you sometimes they can be

00:16:51.680 right but let's say even if they're not right they will come after you they will challenge you

00:16:57.040 especially when you go after public facing positions so the whole notion of massaging a

00:17:03.600 whole generation and then placing them to positions that are public facing and then screaming well

00:17:11.760 public criticism is psychological harm and you have blad on our hands why for on your hands why

00:17:19.760 for accusing him for being a plagiarist and him not being able to respond to i think that here we

00:17:27.360 are completely missing but also as well zara is just ignoring the fact that the entire process

00:17:33.200 that allowed our day to get to where he could at cambridge was was simply you know because he was

00:17:40.080 not white walking the other way and allowing for things to be permissible that would just not

00:17:46.080 simply not have been permissible for any other person exactly here sadiq khan who unfortunately

00:17:52.880 is the mayor of london says how devastated he is about the death of jason arden he said

00:17:59.280 he faced an unacceptable public hunting and campaign of abuse and he says that he knows

00:18:05.120 many londoners who will be angry and upset i'm sure and that he was the victim of a pernicious

00:18:10.160 public shaming that other people in his position simply wouldn't have faced um no that's not the

00:18:16.560 case again and i will say that him being accused for plagiarizing was wasn't a public hounding and

00:18:25.920 it wasn't unacceptable and again if sadiq khan is so much insistent on saying that this happened

00:18:33.520 because he was black no that's not the case it's just again wrong and obviously the message to get

00:18:39.760 from this is not to check only black scholars uh with ai programs to see if they have plagiarized

00:18:46.240 check everyone as i said before firstly the the ai programs often come up with false results yes

00:18:51.600 so it's not actually a panacea but but secondly you had people i think was james watson who was

00:18:57.360 the father of dna who ended up being forced to literally sell his nobel prize for science for

00:19:04.400 discovering uh the structure of dna because he ended up with some incorrect views on uh heredity

00:19:11.920 right so everything that sadiq rhan is saying as usual is false yes so one thing to mention about

00:19:19.840 what he said here about the the the public hound sorry could you repeat before the

00:19:27.360 simon creek uh james watson was i think he was the father of dna uh or the discoverer of dna

00:19:34.880 and he ended up with views on the fact that a lot like with the ai programs okay yes oh no

00:19:40.400 about the ai programs yes the programs aren't always they are yes of course they are in a

00:19:44.640 a panacea but when you see multiple passages um being virtually copy pasted yes as we saw

00:19:52.220 that's not what i meant i meant that sometimes ai comes up with its own hallucinations zach

00:19:58.820 polanski again makes it about race he sends love to jason all day's family and friends he says he

00:20:03.820 was subject to sustained and malicious media attacks which are no doubt more vicious because

00:20:09.220 he was black and says we must now reflect on the impact of a trial some of the media and online on

00:20:14.420 someone under extreme pressure question what is his position on the um the threats that nigel

00:20:22.120 farage is a victim of what is zach polonsky's position there well we know zach polonsky's

00:20:29.200 position which is that there's not really a place in society for people who are moderately or you

00:20:35.200 know somewhat sensibly right wing that's zach polonsky's position someone who had uh farage

00:20:42.040 being executed or something i think so yeah so i mean yeah it's he's clear about it and that's why

00:20:48.420 what i want to say to people because there are some people who are obviously uh very very unhappy

00:20:54.980 about what happened just because you may be unhappy doesn't mean that you should allow just

00:21:00.820 about anyone shame you and make you completely part with reality but there's one more thing if

00:21:07.120 i may which is the fact that all of these people who are coming out and saying oh well he was

00:21:11.640 persecuted by the press and you know by the online commentators simply because he was black it's like

00:21:16.660 as we've already established him being black was what allowed him to go so far but if it becomes

00:21:22.320 permissible once because he was almost a um a comically ridiculous example of just how much

00:21:29.680 stuff he was willing to fake uh and how much they were willing to buy is you're just looking at the

00:21:34.980 absolute abolition of standards so all of these people who say oh it just shouldn't have been

00:21:41.220 looked into if you'd have just turned the other way and ignored the fact that there was this man

00:21:46.500 who was a fraud lecturing at cambridge like if you'd have just done that it's like yeah but

00:21:50.620 what about then if that keeps going and all the people at cambridge are frauds because you've

00:21:55.780 already made it the standard or you've abolished the standard for better ones yeah make room for

00:22:00.280 better ones right here ibram x candy um he says the media lynched jason r day ibram x candy is the

00:22:09.380 anti-racist scholar who can't define racism if you want to if you have forgotten about him here's

00:22:16.480 he's a completely ridiculous character yes yes and he is an entirely ridiculous character from

00:22:21.080 his name that is from his fake name to everything about him he is another fabulous and complete

00:22:27.100 delusional uh human being here barry malone tries to shame all of us who criticize jason our day he

00:22:33.800 says i'm sorry but there are a lot of people with blood on their hands here it's been weeks of abuse

00:22:38.800 an absurd media coverage that just couldn't stop determined to beat the man into the ground jason

00:22:43.800 or they wasn't a culture war pawn he was an effing human being as he said right there is so much to

00:22:49.600 disagree with barry malone here first of all he was accused of being a plagiarist he wasn't accused

00:22:55.740 of being black if someone used him as a culture war pawn that was the left the progressives and

00:23:04.620 Cambridge and everyone who screams racism every time he was and screamed racism every time he was

00:23:12.780 accused of being a plagiarist what's the position is is plagiarism okay now is it okay when black

00:23:20.320 people do it what's the position is it okay when leftists are doing it what are you trying to tell

00:23:26.340 us now is this how academia is going to function properly well so obviously it's not and the whole

00:23:34.600 attempt to brandish every criticism that was fair and I admitted in the very

00:23:41.260 beginning of the segment that part of the online online mob against him

00:23:46.480 weren't criticizing fairly but the very tendency to brandish every criticism

00:23:53.980 just as racism and psychologically harmful and responsible for him

00:23:59.360 committing suicide it's sorry that's that's just ridiculous shaming and I'm

00:24:06.380 not having it and sorry no those of us who criticized him on perfectly rational

00:24:12.420 grounds we don't have bladder on his on our hands and again I'll repeat this I'm

00:24:17.680 sad that he died but those of us who who criticize them on proper grounds and on

00:24:24.240 fairgrounds are not responsible for it right and he was used as a culture war pawn not by us

00:24:33.360 but by everyone who carries on talking about him as if he was just a black man

00:24:42.000 and they completely ignore his research conduct and his conduct as an individual all they insist

00:24:49.600 he was was a black man and that's why every time he was criticized about something they they

00:24:57.940 responded they do this because he's black and that's but that was his defense as well yeah

00:25:04.000 yeah every time that's the problem that's the problem yeah and again nothing he was beyond

00:25:09.200 reproach he yeah and uh i want to say this here again to mention the double standards because

00:25:16.100 zara sultana again wants to to and people like zara sultana want again to claim that it's only

00:25:25.820 he had a very bad treatment because he was black and academia here is very anti-black that's not

00:25:33.920 the case let's just remember what jd haltigan said everyone seems to have forgotten the story

00:25:40.460 of richard bilkster from canada don't pretend the media attacks were more vicious because he was

00:25:46.900 black educator richard bilkster challenged the workplace di instructor and was tarred as a

00:25:54.180 racist he lost contacts friends support and professional esteem and on july 13 he took his

00:26:01.300 own life where was the sort of bad hounding social media hounding mob lynching and again

00:26:11.560 even if there were mob lynching and social media hounding they don't you pylons don't usually lead

00:26:19.360 one to commit suicide and it's an you can you can let me just give you some ideas you can block

00:26:26.120 people you can take a break from social media you know it has happened before and yes the

00:26:35.020 proper message here shouldn't be well we're gonna massage you you're gonna become someone who's

00:26:43.900 gonna be very vulnerable to criticism and we're gonna elevate you to a position of that is gonna

00:26:50.640 to be public facing and when you occupy where and when you get media storm against you if you kill

00:26:59.160 yourself we're gonna blame the racists that's not the proper message to get from here the proper

00:27:05.560 message is to stop massaging people to stop elevating people who don't deserve some positions

00:27:11.540 into these positions and if you really want to hammer the point that some people and some

00:27:19.220 individuals are really prone to be psychologically harmed from public criticism do not put them to

00:27:28.520 public positions because they're public facing and they will attract criticism so i had this post

00:27:35.500 here and i want to say this and i want to say this about the sort of principle of these attacks and

00:27:44.140 blame game it's the following don't criticize my friend even if it is for perfectly valid reasons

00:27:50.540 because my friend might kill himself while allowing me to shame you criticize you and

00:27:55.740 destroy your career whenever you don't become a pawn to my ideology like the scholar i showed you

00:28:04.540 here was did they richard belkster did these people forget what they did to jordan peterson

00:28:10.780 and how many times they attack jordan peterson jordan peterson is game for them because he isn't

00:28:17.660 promoting their narrative exactly because they can't use him as a cultural war pawn

00:28:22.860 that's all that it is right so this is exactly what people are trying to hammer on right now

00:28:28.780 and i'm not going to accept it and uh again i want to say that they are chaos agents because the

00:28:35.740 The response here shouldn't be, let's stop scrutinizing people and challenging them in

00:28:45.580 public, especially when they are in public facing positions, and especially when criticize

00:28:51.500 them is also instrumental to criticizing an ideology.

00:28:55.920 I'm sorry to break it to you, but progressivism is not beyond criticism.

00:29:00.620 However you want to make it above criticism, it's not above criticism.

00:29:04.820 It's a ridiculous and inhumane ideology, right?

00:29:08.280 And let's not forget that several of the people who are trying right now to shame people

00:29:15.060 criticize Jason Arday on perfect grounds are also themselves a bit shady individuals.

00:29:24.880 We have here, again, this is a great post by John Wong, says Schrodinger's empathy.

00:29:30.300 We have here someone, Super Tansky, saying Anne Whittacombe starting her descent into

00:29:35.740 hell.

00:29:37.060 And for Jason Arday, he says, I hope all those racist bastards are happy with themselves

00:29:41.740 for driving a young black man to his death, essentially achieved an indirect lynching.

00:29:46.540 God, I effing hate what this country has become.

00:29:49.180 Yeah, but she's, I mean, she's just such a cartoonish villain.

00:29:53.980 She's very, very foul and crude.

00:29:56.020 Yeah, here, Leo Kers is also pointing our attention to another one.

00:30:01.820 This Nas Crave here who has a list of names.

00:30:06.760 Leo is one of them.

00:30:08.000 And he says, just to name a few, there is any justice in this world.

00:30:11.080 You should feel like you have to look over your shoulders for the rest of your worthless life.

00:30:15.100 Sorry, Leo is a comedian and he's a good comedian and a friend of the show.

00:30:20.520 and sorry if you don't want comedians to make fun of people don't put them in public facing

00:30:26.040 positions comedians will keep making fun of everyone as they always have that's their that's

00:30:32.780 their job yes and again i want to mention this because you know i have studied blame

00:30:39.840 on a philosophical level and yes on this and you know you detect the pattern and the pattern is

00:30:45.780 when it comes to the leftists is it's completely incoherent uh pattern when it comes to blaming

00:30:52.100 people it's just number one they say it's always a structure most of them obviously there are

00:30:57.620 exceptions but most of them it's all always a structure individuals have no agency it's the bad

00:31:03.300 structure well if individuals have no agency they also don't have responsibility so in that case

00:31:10.180 you also don't criticize your political opponents because according to your philosophy they don't

00:31:16.500 have agency or responsibility either but it's not politically profitable and helpful and expedient

00:31:23.460 so they're going to completely part with truth and move to the second stage and say no my friends

00:31:30.340 are always responsible for good things if they do bad things it's the system it's an isolated

00:31:36.340 incident they had mental illness it's a knife or a car with mental illness but it's never them

00:31:42.420 they're never responsible for it and there are never lessons to be learned so they will insist

00:31:48.580 that there are lessons to be learned in a situation like the suicide of jason rd they're not going to

00:31:55.380 insist that there are lessons to be learned in an event such as the assassination of charlie kirk

00:32:00.260 or the assassination of Anne Widercombe.

00:32:03.460 They're not going to do this.

00:32:04.900 And, yeah, it's always the system's fault when it's people

00:32:09.300 that they think they can use for their purposes

00:32:12.580 and they're political friends, but it's never...

00:32:15.940 And the other people are never responsible

00:32:18.180 for doing something good.

00:32:19.380 It's always incidental.

00:32:20.580 But they're always, always bad,

00:32:23.060 and they have to atone for a kind of sin.

00:32:26.180 And I will say this, and just, I think,

00:32:28.820 at the end of the day i will repeat this to summarize this segment i'm sad he took his life

00:32:37.460 i criticized him on fair grounds and many people did and i speak only for the people who

00:32:45.060 criticized him on fair grounds we are not responsible for him committing suicide

00:32:51.380 um we definitely contributed to him feeling pressure yes that's part and parcel of public

00:32:59.640 criticism and i i'm sad again for him and for his family and when it comes to discourse i am not

00:33:08.200 going to accept this sort of this sort of uh disgusting public shaming campaign now that is

00:33:16.660 trying to say well no stop criticizing anyone who is uh who is who we identify as vulnerable who we

00:33:25.260 identify as vulnerable and only we find it no criticism will continue yeah until morale improves

00:33:31.980 um i will quickly blitz through the uh rumble rants uh we've got uh based ape says uh built

00:33:39.640 fake reputation on overcoming adversity but when he faced actual adversity uh obviously things

00:33:46.840 turned out quite different uh want all orders there's still your segments on questionable

00:33:51.640 academia are some of the best on the podcast in my opinion could we get a segment on alleged

00:33:56.360 neuroscientist abaj hit naskar i'll check it out and thank you very much for your kind words

00:34:02.520 um that's random name says in life the wokest uh the woke is treated our day like an exotic pet

00:34:09.640 And they don't mourn for his death.

00:34:11.420 Rather, they just still continue to use him as a prop.

00:34:15.500 And they continue to see him just as a black man.

00:34:18.980 Yes.

00:34:19.740 That's the extent of what he is.

00:34:21.500 Forti and Bear says,

00:34:22.500 Brothers, standards must never be dropped, ever.

00:34:24.840 Have a wonderful week ahead.

00:34:26.220 Thank you.

00:34:26.920 We'll certainly try to.

00:34:28.560 Bay State says,

00:34:29.400 The real victims here are his students.

00:34:31.460 Imagine working hard enough to get into Cambridge

00:34:33.420 only to find that staff have conspired

00:34:35.560 to provide you with a completely fraudulent education

00:34:39.520 for 10k a year absolutely um okay i want i want to say this because yeah this is definitely the

00:34:47.020 case and i want to tell people who are watching us from universities just that that is true but

00:34:55.080 you can also use some people as negative role models however cynic this may sound and also

00:35:01.840 just bear in mind universities mostly give you free time so it's not just about the lazy lecturer

00:35:08.580 you're gonna be exposed to one or two hours per week universities mostly give you the free time

00:35:15.140 to expand your own knowledge and skills in topics you love that that's where you make omelette that's

00:35:22.420 where you cook uh for five dollars thank you opunk says something that uh would no doubt you know

00:35:27.780 get a lot of likes on twitter but i hope you understand i'm not going to read here um five

00:35:32.820 dollars from uh adrian marie who says everyone wants to be judged by the content of their character

00:35:38.340 until they truly are uh and accrual for five dollars says jason alday had no value to the

00:35:43.460 left if he wasn't the face of their movement though uh that's how they're treating him that's

00:35:48.100 still how they're treating him um all right if we could go over to my segment and samson please

00:35:54.820 thank you all right then ladies and gentlemen so as of the start of this month where we saw

00:36:02.340 those absolutely terrible sights of people pouring over from morocco of moroccan heritage

00:36:09.060 sub-saharan heritage into the uh spanish dominion of sweater on the moroccan coastline uh obviously

00:36:16.980 that was something that nobody could ignore and certainly even as we have sat through and just

00:36:24.260 watched in horror at the endless amounts of mass immigration coming to europe arriving on the shores

00:36:29.700 There was something about the visuals of Sweater that were particularly horrifying in terms of the actual scale of it,

00:36:37.440 and something also very foreboding of what the future of Europe may look like if the incentive structures that the European elites insist are still kept in place continue to be so.

00:36:50.160 Now, Firas, you did a really good Realpolitik on this, where you went through and explored the geopolitical reasoning for why Morocco were obviously, you know.

00:36:59.420 benefiting from this will benefit from this but also as well there was just another thing that

00:37:03.560 you highlighted which was of course just the fact that they do this because they don't respect the

00:37:08.820 strength of spain because they know that the spanish government are pushovers and they know

00:37:13.320 that they are uh weak on particular ideological narratives that would prohibit them from actually

00:37:20.120 doing something that would resolve these issues and forcing these invaders back over into the

00:37:25.440 Moroccan border. However, since all of that has been going on, and we had about 80,000 estimates

00:37:32.840 between 72,000 and 80,000 of these Africans arriving in sweater, despite Pedro Sánchez,

00:37:43.220 the Spanish Prime Minister's insistence that the matter was all taken care of, he's on holiday

00:37:48.240 right now by the way um despite the fact in sweater no no um no one of those lanzarottis

00:37:55.260 something like that i believe um so he said that this has all been dealt with but of course he's

00:38:02.120 not there nor does he really care a great deal because after all i mean you've just legalized

00:38:07.640 half a million illegals let's not pretend that you actually have any true moral

00:38:12.480 you know scruples to be fair luca he thought it was going to be half a million it turns out that

00:38:17.420 was one and a half closer to one and a half million yeah well i wonder who they'll vote for

00:38:22.040 yes uh the next election once i've done all that gerrymandering uh anyway so the point is that this

00:38:28.180 is all uh coming to a head and now because um the spanish government have failed to actually address

00:38:35.200 this uh problem wholeheartedly and there are still several thousands possibly 10 000 of these

00:38:42.160 illegals just squatting in sweater well this is of course incentivized more people to come

00:38:48.980 because of course it would yeah this is a very uh sad state of affairs because the european union

00:38:58.660 is screaming to the world that they don't want to control their borders yes and what essentially

00:39:04.500 what ursula von der leyen suggested and pedro sanchez was very happy with her suggestion

00:39:10.000 was to pay Morocco to guard their borders.

00:39:14.040 Just, no, sorry, we already pay as Europeans

00:39:16.920 and as members of the EU,

00:39:18.820 we already pay for an army that is,

00:39:22.940 that has to guard its borders.

00:39:24.580 So why should we pay for that

00:39:26.740 and also pay for someone else to do the job

00:39:29.560 that the army isn't doing?

00:39:30.900 So it's very demoralizing.

00:39:33.780 Basically, they're paying Zizia.

00:39:35.420 Basically, they're paying a modern form of Zizia.

00:39:37.800 It's all about blackmail.

00:39:39.340 It's all about the threat of use of force.

00:39:41.720 Another form of the Dane guild.

00:39:43.200 Yes, that's all that they're doing.

00:39:45.080 And it will never work.

00:39:46.920 Yeah.

00:39:47.420 But also, let's not forget Ursula von der Leyen

00:39:51.060 coming out with a very appalling statement that day

00:39:54.340 where she said, when we all were unhappy,

00:39:58.200 where we all, not unhappy, I mean infuriated

00:40:00.400 with what happened in Ceuta,

00:40:02.280 is that she was saying, well, no, we can't accept this.

00:40:05.220 We can't have people violating our rules.

00:40:07.620 no it's because of our rules that they're doing it because if the rules say that guarding your

00:40:13.640 borders and deporting people who shouldn't be in europe is a crime against humanity

00:40:17.780 it's it's your rules if the rules imply that if someone is in the water they're your responsibility

00:40:24.980 and suddenly they can become citizens by just by just uh swimming paperwork it's your rules that

00:40:31.720 is the it's our rules that is the problem of course it is um and that with that in mind it

00:40:37.200 doesn't matter as you go further down this article when they go on to say well the enclave security

00:40:41.880 personnel have been reinforced with an additional 300 police officers and 2 000 soldiers it's like

00:40:47.900 okay but those soldiers are not removing the people who are breaking in so it doesn't really

00:40:54.280 matter how many more you have shot they're not allowed to use force to secure the border they're

00:40:58.000 not even allowed to apparently grab them and just like put their hands on them so god knows what

00:41:04.260 else you'd be using the army for if not to remove them but there it is and they

00:41:08.520 say we do this to dissuade anyone who aspires to enter sweater and maybe

00:41:13.860 irregularly there's that bloody word again our regularly how they're

00:41:18.000 essentially saying we we we don't have the guts to defend their borders yeah

00:41:22.140 absolutely that's exactly what's going on here and you could see them in the

00:41:26.140 horizon talk about a shape of things to come where this was recording and you

00:41:33.140 can see fires in the distance where they're coming over the valley and then eventually they obviously

00:41:38.760 arrive and meet the personnel and actually as it turns out on this occasion so there were a lot of

00:41:44.680 arrests there was about 294 migrants attempted to enter Spain that were arrested but the other

00:41:51.260 part of this all as well of course is the fact that you create a situation exactly not dissimilar

00:42:00.240 to that which we currently have in calais where it just becomes a mere question of sitting and

00:42:04.900 waiting yes and eventually you just end up chancing it and sure you might be arrested and you get sent

00:42:10.440 back in the other direction but you know what there's not even or you know crest of water

00:42:14.800 separating these two things and so it's only a matter of time before they come again and when

00:42:20.120 you see the absolute s-hole that sweater has been turned into in merely two weeks um i mean it's

00:42:29.200 beginning to look like a favela uh there's just tarpaulin there's just these open markets and

00:42:34.220 everything this is gonna do wonders for the gdp of spain and ceuta yeah so ceuta is enriched now

00:42:41.660 well right and that's the point isn't it as well the fact that there was already a pretty stable

00:42:46.820 population there uh and these people are now just having to live with that and we'll get to this

00:42:51.860 in just a minute but again if i just show this video here as well i mean do these do these look

00:43:00.700 like people who are um in danger of being sent back do these look like people who are just being

00:43:07.220 like oh yeah god the spanish have come in and they're really sorting it out now you know we're

00:43:11.760 well obviously not the the message has been sent to them that spain doesn't want to guard

00:43:18.600 its borders yes it's not that it's unable to do so it's more than capable of doing so but they

00:43:23.380 don't want to and when it comes to the people some of them yeah i mean it's there are many people so

00:43:29.080 not one generalization is going to hold about them but one some will by the way but one thing

00:43:36.100 is just they spotted several people who just went in for the fun of the game yeah they found even

00:43:42.720 people you know social moroccan social media influencers and bodybuilders who just crossed

00:43:48.140 for the fun of the game they took some of their selfies and went back but obviously people's lives

00:43:54.060 are at stake here and not only have they broken into spanish territory but they're now sitting

00:43:59.820 on the beach uh basically protesting and just saying oh we don't want to return to morocco

00:44:06.040 it's like well i thought you might not but it's not really your choice you're the ones in the

00:44:10.700 wrong here um and the only reason you get to be here and give this pathetic little demonstration

00:44:15.920 is because of the spinelessness of the Spanish government.

00:44:19.500 And to be honest with you, the larger EU at that.

00:44:22.420 I mean, you know, Maloney's entire strategy of being like,

00:44:25.900 oh, well, we'll just cut off the Schengen zone from Spain

00:44:29.080 to protect Italian borders.

00:44:31.340 It's like, sorry, it wasn't the entire premise of the EU

00:44:34.700 that it was supposed to be some sort of collaborative effort.

00:44:37.780 If you're so bothered about the threat in Sweater,

00:44:40.100 why don't you just work with the Spanish to move Italian troops

00:44:43.340 down there as well and work together?

00:44:45.700 and why are you still allowing your own illegal crossing well yeah i mean and why are you

00:44:50.820 still welcoming ever increasing numbers of legal melanie still leaves much to be desired for

00:44:57.460 yes oh she's a great disappointment i mean if you expected anything of her um but then you get

00:45:03.700 so then you also get to the fact that well they're staging this protest and obviously reuters

00:45:09.440 is just desperate to pull on every single string of the violin for you to have some sympathy for

00:45:16.840 these people and it goes on to say that with the city's resources outstretched most migrants were

00:45:22.660 living in precarious conditions on El Trampolin Beach or the city's outskirts while they were

00:45:29.980 waiting for a chance to journey onto continental Europe because obviously it's not going to end

00:45:35.800 here and i think that some people who were who were just saying oh well it's just sweater they're

00:45:41.560 not actually going to want to cross of course they're going to want to cross because they've

00:45:45.760 seen the incentive structure put in place by sanchez and they know that it's basically unbridled

00:45:51.640 access to the european continent if they do yes and thousands have already crossed and that the

00:45:58.320 day of the first invasion the media were trying to essentially placate people's anger but then

00:46:07.280 coming next day they started talking about migrants needing blankets needing food and the

00:46:14.680 instead of saying people in ceuta are fed up they are afraid to go out they started saying well

00:46:22.380 the illegal migrants are hungry because in the hierarchy yeah they rank higher than native

00:46:29.200 europeans that's always the case but but again this is um this this brings about the same

00:46:34.840 incentive structure if you have 80 000 moroccans and africans just going into seuta and then all

00:46:42.260 of a sudden it's like okay but there's not actually any aid here for them and say you've

00:46:47.580 got like the military guarding all of the supermarkets and everything if they have no

00:46:51.360 way to get food or to procure resources for their livelihoods then they will simply have to return

00:46:57.020 back to morocco you setting up with all of your woke charities saying oh you know let's give them

00:47:03.160 blankets let's give them that it's like well that's incentivizing them to stay we're trying

00:47:07.500 to incentivize them to leave and so all of this is contributing i mean just look here it says um

00:47:12.240 it goes on to say uh we're sleeping next to the sea with cold and bad smells you're the one who

00:47:17.600 walked yourself to the sea from inland like you're the reason that you're there you have

00:47:23.280 agency upon your own two feet we're suffering a lot says ayub um eliroud uh from morocco's uh

00:47:30.960 tatian um adding that uh i know i pronounced that wrong uh adding that police um were blocking

00:47:36.960 migrants from going to the city center the protesters held up spanish flags and banners

00:47:41.920 reading we don't want to go back to morocco and we are also human whilst chanting flags such as

00:47:48.720 we're tired or we need a solution the european taxpayers are also human and they also need a

00:47:54.080 solution yes exactly and their lives also matter and this is what i said in on uh on the segments

00:48:01.040 i did about this is just you have to make a choice in some cases we don't live in fantasy land where

00:48:07.120 it's always you know somehow will magically make it it's just no it you have to some sometimes

00:48:15.280 make a choice and in this case you either choose to um to do your duty towards europeans or or not

00:48:24.560 you choose people from outside europe and in many cases really troubled places to above europeans

00:48:32.800 And let me just give one really quick example about the stupidity of EU rules, especially the asylum-seeking rules.

00:48:41.480 If you come from a position that is from a country that is war-torn, you automatically deserve asylum.

00:48:49.720 What if both sides hate you?

00:48:53.180 Well, obviously, yeah, and we've seen plenty enough of that.

00:48:57.040 I mean, the fact that they're even asking or pleading to come to Europe in first place speaks to their contempt for us.

00:49:05.700 But also, I want to tell you one very important thing, because they mentioned blankets and they mentioned all about this.

00:49:13.160 Just check now the temperature in Ceuta at night.

00:49:18.020 1 a.m. is 23 degrees Celsius, so you don't exactly need a blanket.

00:49:23.300 And it doesn't go below 23 degrees Celsius.

00:49:27.040 It goes 24 degrees Celsius at 9 a.m.

00:49:30.040 So I don't know exactly who needs a blanket, but maybe maybe they have something else in mind.

00:49:34.880 Well, maybe I've misunderstood some.

00:49:36.600 Yes, no, it's all right.

00:49:37.640 And but obviously this all gets far worse as well, because it's not just that they're bringing their persons.

00:49:43.440 It's also the fact that they're bringing innumerable diseases from the African subcontinent as well.

00:49:49.440 that, you know, we as, you know, somewhat medically forward-thinking Europeans don't really consider half as much anymore.

00:49:58.680 And they go and say something that has been reproached by several emergency doctors

00:50:03.720 who have also assured the cameras of OK Diario that they have treated patients with syphilis, gonorrhea and tuberculosis

00:50:14.820 and that one of them has died with symptoms compatible with typhoid fever as well.

00:50:21.080 And so, again, if all of these people are just coming over to Europe as well...

00:50:25.300 Enjoy your welfare state.

00:50:26.400 Yeah.

00:50:27.080 The Minister of Health, Monica Garcia, has taken more than two weeks to travel to Sueta

00:50:32.820 to learn firsthand about the health situation after the invasion on the 29th of July,

00:50:38.960 something that is being reproached by several emergency doctors

00:50:41.540 who have also assured them just saying about, obviously,

00:50:46.700 these statements behind the speech of the health minister

00:50:49.120 who insisted on talking about normality

00:50:52.700 and the minister has described a xenophobic rhetoric

00:50:57.300 and saying that immigration and disease are identified

00:51:01.960 but they are obviously not to go together.

00:51:04.740 I think for the sake of translating this article,

00:51:07.320 it's worded it a little bit difficultly, strangely for me.

00:51:11.320 but um sorry go on still yes i just wanted to say that bear in mind that ceuta is a very small

00:51:17.000 exclave and it has 84 000 spaniards there living so there's an influx of tens of thousands

00:51:24.520 of migrants of course just keep naturally it'll be at the expense of the tiny

00:51:30.580 number that's living there yes yeah and this is totally overwhelmed um the actual capacity

00:51:38.360 of the health service it won't surprise anyone to hear um the head of the medical board basically

00:51:45.000 said that uh on uh radio that the city's limited health care workers were exhausted and uh criticized

00:51:51.520 what he described as a slow response by the central spanish government he also added that

00:51:56.680 diseases such as ones i've described were breaking out and that violence related injuries such as

00:52:02.100 broken noses and stab wounds were also rising so pay more for extra nurses and doctors because

00:52:08.020 there is a shortage of there is a shortage of there is limited supply of work now it can't meet

00:52:16.080 the demand so the spaniards aren't going to work themselves because according to the left obviously

00:52:21.300 so they need extra workers from outside not just that i'm confused aren't they all doctors and

00:52:27.560 engineers why don't they treat themselves well again the uh reuters did manage to find a few

00:52:32.880 people that it claimed to be people of that profession uh but and obviously that extrapolates

00:52:38.280 out into the fact that all 80 000 of them of course were um and so you can see here a monica

00:52:44.420 garcia um leaving the building after a discussion with the healthcare professionals and um people

00:52:51.840 just furious with her demanding a resignation you see here you're a daughter of a big whore

00:52:56.460 shameless now obviously i can't speak to the um level of promiscuity of miss garcia's mother but

00:53:02.600 what i do know for a fact is that she is failing terribly as health minister given how long it took

00:53:08.460 her to arrive there on the scene and also these deflections uh away from the reality everything

00:53:15.280 the fact that you're providing these people with health care as i say is just another incentive

00:53:20.460 for them to stay um and this of course doesn't speak to the fact that there are tens of thousands

00:53:26.380 of people there as well just regular citizens who are now having to live with all of this as one

00:53:31.780 says i'm terrified neither the police nor the military protect me the only things that protects

00:53:36.400 me is my dog because that's the only thing they're afraid of uh said the resident of the enclave

00:53:41.520 um we also have the fact as well that we have this um chap here carlos the resident of sweater

00:53:46.760 says we cannot be the object of a political maneuver my 80 year old father was assaulted

00:53:52.160 and my children cannot go out into the street there is an obvious risk situation and it also

00:53:59.520 goes on to say that uh so he's a lawyer and a resident of sweater uh and he's a denouncey

00:54:05.420 unbearable situation that's arrived here and he also goes on to say that his thank goodness that

00:54:11.740 there was someone nearby and that they were able to help his father out um but the reality today is

00:54:17.320 just absolutely terrible it goes on to say although his residence and office are located in the center

00:54:22.940 of the city a more controlled area of it by the spanish military um alonso has described the

00:54:29.060 situation in the peripheral neighborhoods is a state of war um also this doesn't take into account

00:54:35.780 as well the numerous rape cases that rise and of course people are dying people are being stabbed

00:54:40.700 many of course um many of those casualties are illegals who have drowned trying to get around

00:54:47.880 and from what i understand now there has also been something of a seawall constructed to try

00:54:54.360 and stop that but again are still there and it's still obviously preferable to them to wherever

00:55:00.000 they've come from and so long as that is the case and there is not a hostile environment

00:55:04.420 they will continue to come and so the rapes have been carrying on and some of these rapes as well

00:55:10.560 have been against other arrivals from africa who have they've migrated and then just raped some of

00:55:17.260 their own as well whilst they've been going here uh yeah three um assault cases against migrants

00:55:22.760 who had entered during the invasion and all three were obviously women and one of them was of course

00:55:28.220 a minor and these are the sorts of people that the spanish government will eventually just bring

00:55:37.640 over right they will they do not care about the moral character of these people or whatever crimes

00:55:44.500 they actually do um for them in the same way that here in britain the the establishment are

00:55:51.880 incredibly vexed about the boat people coming over not because they actually have any problem

00:55:58.560 with them being here but because of the optics of you just seeing the small boats every day

00:56:04.400 and that's really seems to be the problem for the spanish uh authorities it's the optics of it

00:56:10.360 that they obviously disagree with not the actual moral uh argument about the fact that they're

00:56:16.640 losing their territory and the other thing of course as well is just the fact that if you because

00:56:22.480 usually demographics are used as a weapon of warfare and you know historically that's how

00:56:28.440 they were before our leaders decided in their infinite wisdom that actually we would just pass

00:56:33.700 that um the fact that once you have um enough of an influx of moroccans in there and also as well

00:56:41.120 if the people of sweater the actual spanish inhabitants of sweater have to keep living like

00:56:46.020 this they will just flee and so person by person you are going to replace the people's sweater

00:56:52.940 with moroccans until you get to the point where so you have um santiago um abascal of vox saying

00:56:59.980 that the government's abandonment of sweater is deliberate and has a purpose to demoralize the

00:57:05.040 people's sweater so they end up throwing in the towel and facilitating the handover of the city

00:57:09.400 to morocco now sanchez must end up in jail for many things but above all for this now obviously

00:57:15.940 i um cannot ascribe motive to sanchez on this particular issue but given his track record

00:57:24.820 it's not exactly a form of treason that is beneath him yes um luca just uh i want to add

00:57:32.640 one thing is just when you mentioned optics before the question is whose eyes was he trying

00:57:37.660 to capture was he trying to catch their attention because yeah he he wants to be

00:57:45.900 you know he is a far leftist he wants to he's happy with that with what happened the longer

00:57:54.620 shorter he's happy with what happened yeah yeah um and so he really doesn't care about the people

00:58:01.220 loves you it doesn't care and so the uh president mayor of sweater um he uh basically came across

00:58:10.100 with this ultimatum saying you've got 30 days to resolve the migration crisis or he will go to the

00:58:15.500 courts but the question we obviously have to ask is well why are we allowing it to continue for

00:58:22.560 another 30 days right before we get bogged down in legal warfare which is never exactly a swift

00:58:29.780 thing in and of itself the fact that you have to sue your government to protect you is insane

00:58:34.640 absolutely insane isn't it that's the crazy part right it truly is um and so it's perhaps no

00:58:42.080 surprise that according to recent polling you can see that uh the socialist party the psoe

00:58:48.440 um is on about 26 in the polls with the um uh the sort of populist party being on about 32 and vox

00:58:56.720 being the more upcoming, more hardline party when it comes to anti-immigration rhetoric,

00:59:03.940 is also climbing exponentially as well.

00:59:07.200 And if you look across four districts of Spain over the recent elections,

00:59:12.680 you can see that in the time since 2023,

00:59:16.560 Vox have basically gone from 8% of the vote to 16% of the vote.

00:59:21.160 You can see in Castile and Leon, you've got 17% to 18%,

00:59:24.720 So it's still rising. They'll still make a gain.

00:59:27.440 You can also see it's gone from, excuse me, they'll go from seven seats to 14 here.

00:59:33.740 And so all of this is pointing to a trajectory where you can just tell the Spanish people,

00:59:39.160 no doubt because of, in the same way that the extremism, the sheer extremism of the Boris wave coming along,

00:59:48.180 forced the population, you know, the issue of immigration back into people's minds.

00:59:53.400 That's the Sanchez wave.

00:59:54.460 that's what sanchez has done in spain um and so obviously the election comes next year now i'm

01:00:00.300 this is not me entirely endorsing vox uh i'm very suspicious of all yes all uh populist parties on

01:00:09.260 the on the continent um but nonetheless something has to be done and this lunatic cannot be allowed

01:00:17.020 to stay in charge of spain because we can see from the way that he's dealing or not dealing

01:00:22.620 with the situation in sueta it will lead to the loss of spanish territories and it will also

01:00:28.380 obviously lead to just the abolition of your country and as a country that fought for most of

01:00:34.780 its history in the reconquista to stop something like this from happening the spanish government

01:00:41.500 doesn't have the right to just do away with it just also bear in mind a good thing that podemos

01:00:48.620 the previous government is now on a very low popularity rate and they some of their members

01:00:55.180 are openly saying we want europeans to be replaced oh yeah they're absolute lunatics um sigil stone

01:01:04.140 for two dollars thank you says uh your your universe has no meaning to them you uh they

01:01:09.660 will be cold they will be tired and they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door yeah it's uh

01:01:14.940 And it's always applicable, isn't it, that quote?

01:01:18.800 All right then, Samson, if we could go over to Firas's segment, please.

01:01:25.400 All right.

01:01:26.640 So when we are sort of stuck in the middle of this discourse in Britain,

01:01:35.000 you know, it's worth remembering what is happening,

01:01:39.120 what is the political establishment trying to do,

01:01:40.940 and what are some of the comments that we're seeing around this,

01:01:43.340 and what should people be focused on now happy independence day for pakistan uh it was on the

01:01:49.600 15th of august and apparently the celebrations in britain were rather large oh yeah yes

01:01:56.780 you can see them here basically uh making an insane amount of strange noises they're so

01:02:06.600 proud of their country of pakistan they'll do anything but live in it yes well there is

01:02:13.340 And you see them driving like lunatics as part of the celebration

01:02:18.900 because that is how you do it.

01:02:21.740 Well, I would sort of suggest that.

01:02:25.140 They surround a police officer, a female police officer,

01:02:28.700 and try to sort of intimidate her, terrify her.

01:02:32.900 And they are celebrating in Bradford with these very nice cars.

01:02:43.340 incredible how do mere barbers and vape shop owners afford such things yes yes it is a bit

01:02:50.840 strange isn't it all of these supercars being driven in a convoy to celebrate pakistan

01:02:54.980 uh in britain uh but you know the uh there are other things that are going on we found out over

01:03:02.480 the weekend that an eritrean migrant 33 raped an elderly man outside a church in harrow

01:03:10.040 So he finds a drunk pensioner apparently lying on a bench or something like that and proceeds to rape him.

01:03:18.340 I mean, but anyway, the discourse was focused on other things.

01:03:25.300 Well, you know, before we go to the discourse, let's have a look at this one here.

01:03:29.080 You have a council officer trying to fine a couple of people for littering, and he finds himself subjected to an attack with a stick.

01:03:40.040 And he's told that, what do you mean you can't throw cigarettes on the street?

01:03:45.020 We can do whatever we want here.

01:03:46.660 They call him a white bastard and force him away after having beaten him.

01:03:52.000 And they got away with suspended sentences.

01:03:55.460 So we're seeing integration work brilliantly well.

01:03:59.140 Now, in the midst of all of this, of course, you saw over the last few weeks,

01:04:03.480 unless you were living under a rock, that there was a massive media campaign targeting Restore Britain.

01:04:08.620 And it was run on The Telegraph, and it was run on The Guardian, and it was run on The Times, and so on and so forth.

01:04:15.360 Oh, it's daily.

01:04:16.520 It's daily, and it's still ongoing.

01:04:18.560 We just saw another hit piece today.

01:04:21.620 But the objective of this campaign was to sort of distract everyone and push Restore on the back foot,

01:04:28.500 push Reform and the Conservatives into some kind of reconciliation,

01:04:32.280 and really make sure that if support for Reform collapses, Restore Britain is not in a position to benefit from it.

01:04:38.620 because reform is going through a major wave of infighting,

01:04:43.200 with talks about Nigel Farage having fallen out of love with Zia Yusuf

01:04:47.920 and considering getting rid of him.

01:04:49.900 And today, I think we had Danny Kruger saying that foreigners who wanted benefits

01:04:54.020 need to apply for British citizenship first.

01:04:57.060 So there is these two contrasting realities.

01:05:01.200 The reality that you see when you look around you,

01:05:03.760 and the reality that is being presented by the media,

01:05:08.440 which is focused on accusing Restore of being anti-Semitic, essentially.

01:05:15.060 Now, you see here Politics UK reporting on the Daily Mail

01:05:19.740 saying that it seems that Zia is on his way out.

01:05:25.120 Now, following this spat over the allegation that Restore is anti-Semitic,

01:05:30.300 Leo Kearse stepped in with what I thought was a reasoned position.

01:05:35.180 I didn't fully agree with everything that he said, but I thought it was a very reasonable position.

01:05:39.360 His view basically was, look, there's clearly an effort to bring down Restore.

01:05:45.520 This is happening based on allegations of anti-Semitism.

01:05:50.100 I think, and this is Leo speaking, before I and Anglo-Saxon white man start talking about Zionism and Israel and the Jews,

01:05:57.080 I should point out that I'm a massive fan.

01:05:59.660 i'm a zionist i believe the jews have a right to a homeland a right to self-determination to control

01:06:04.140 their borders reasonable enough yeah i believe that the men and women of britain have this right

01:06:10.460 as well and this seems to be where i diverge from people criticizing restore melanie phillips a

01:06:17.340 journalist a jewish journalist as he points out the far right noisily identify british identity

01:06:22.700 with christianity but a hindu a sikh or a jew or a muslim is as british as everyone else and she

01:06:29.340 He says of migrants, upon taking citizenship, all become equally British.

01:06:34.500 Now, just sort of, let's go back here again.

01:06:37.700 These guys hurling abuse at a litter officer for doing his job abuse him for being white.

01:06:49.080 And the Eritrean migrant here seems to have zero concerns about race, frankly.

01:06:54.500 He'll just rape anything.

01:06:56.340 and the Pakistanis are celebrating their independence day in Britain.

01:07:01.780 Which is just weird, given that they are celebrating being independent.

01:07:06.080 None of the people in these stories would ever even identify themselves as British.

01:07:10.980 Not in any real sense, only when they can abuse you using it.

01:07:14.940 Not in any real sense.

01:07:18.640 But this, Leo Kers continues, this clashes with Melanie Phillips' vision of Israel.

01:07:24.580 Israel is a Jewish state, its national identity is Israeli and Jewish,

01:07:28.040 so Arabs can only have the first civic identity, but not the culturally fundamental second one.

01:07:34.600 Which she points out that this is not them being as Israeli as everyone else.

01:07:40.100 And that Melanie Phillips accepts an ancestral peoplehood basis for Jewish national determination in Israel,

01:07:46.740 while expressly denying that British national identity has an equivalent ethnic or ancestry-based character.

01:07:53.300 I think this is fair.

01:07:54.620 I think this is a correct characterization of her views.

01:07:58.480 And I saw this as a bit of a peace offering.

01:08:00.980 Because if your interest is in building alliances, you have somebody likely occurs saying, look, we're on the same side here.

01:08:09.640 We agree on how to handle Islamism and how to handle citizens who are disloyal and how to defend borders and things like that.

01:08:19.100 So this is important.

01:08:21.140 These are grounds over which there can be compromise and meeting, and that should lead to a much better relationship.

01:08:29.180 And that should be used to sort of cast aside the whole anti-Semitism issue and focus on the equal claims of Jews to a homeland and British people to a homeland.

01:08:43.680 This is how you would receive a peace offering if you wanted to make friends.

01:08:50.180 Of course it is.

01:08:51.140 And remember, this is Melanie Phillips, who is saying that the West will only survive if it decides to love itself and if it decides to love us, the Jewish people.

01:09:02.500 And this is what Leo is saying. This is essentially what Leo is saying.

01:09:07.860 And this is what she is saying, that diaspora Jews need to realize that you are not just Americans with Judaism added on in Britain.

01:09:17.680 They're not just British Jews with Judaism added on.

01:09:21.040 You are part of the Jewish people and the Jewish nation, and that should come first.

01:09:25.440 National belonging should come first.

01:09:27.120 Well, I agree.

01:09:28.080 But it's the same for me.

01:09:29.780 And I have no other, I just simply am British.

01:09:34.480 All of my family are English, and there is nowhere to flee to.

01:09:38.440 If this country goes down, I mean, not even to mention the fact that obviously the entirety

01:09:43.360 of the Anglosphere is currently going through the same malaise of problems.

01:09:47.240 It's also just the fact that, spiritually, it would just destroy me to see this nation fall even further than it has.

01:09:58.260 But in response to Leo, Melanie seems to rebuff this peace offering.

01:10:04.960 She says, this is very muddled, British identity is civic and not ethnic.

01:10:10.200 It is totally different from Jewish identity, which is ethnic, religious, and cultural.

01:10:14.340 but British identity is ethnic because it's the English the Scottish the Irish and Welsh and they

01:10:21.880 are also people who have their own cultures in fact if you were to speak to the Scots and the

01:10:26.540 Welsh and the Irish in particular they'd be very forthright about the fact that they've got their

01:10:30.500 own cultures and obviously as well I mean even when it comes to the question of the Scottish

01:10:35.140 they've got their own particular character to the religion as well and something like

01:10:40.060 presbyterianism yeah so it's like by all of these categories ethnic religious and cultural

01:10:46.800 i don't understand how the native peoples of britain don't fit that requirement

01:10:53.460 there's also some other stuff to say first of all i want to make several additions here because

01:11:01.300 that's an interesting topic i don't have that much background to it but let me just say what

01:11:07.340 i think first of all i don't know who melanie phillips is i don't know that much about her

01:11:12.020 positions but if her position is ethno-nationalism for the jews and uh ethno-nationalism for you is

01:11:19.480 nazi-like obviously i think that this is a bit uh not a bit that's obviously hypocritical

01:11:26.160 and very corrosive and subversive right um if that is her position the second thing i want to say is

01:11:33.460 that the whole ethnic versus civic thing seems to me to be a bit weird because first of all i'm

01:11:40.920 greek and in greece there isn't that much of a notion of civic identity yes or civic nationalism

01:11:46.820 yeah it's just i i really struggle to understand the concept at some point but at the end of the

01:11:52.620 day you can say that every every uh position from from a theoretical perspective it has its pros

01:12:02.060 and cons but at the end of the day the past is one thing the the present is another and whatever

01:12:08.940 happens and however you know people have evolved differently and they you know they develop

01:12:15.420 differently there is a situation in the present that we have to deal with and when i say we

01:12:22.780 obviously you're going to call me out because you know who this we is this discussion is about who

01:12:27.480 we is but the point is that balkanization is bad balkanization has to be prevented it will be

01:12:34.520 prevented by something that is going to be theoretically imperfect yep so let's focus on

01:12:40.920 preventing balkanization and then focus on the other bit now when it comes to the ethnic i think

01:12:46.380 it's biological when it comes to the civic i've heard people both saying that british is what you

01:12:53.160 said here it's a sort of um ethnic from the british isles some others are saying it's more

01:12:59.000 cultural but you know you can you can talk about this but at the end of the day and i think that

01:13:03.800 this is what is going to help many people also on restore to clarify at the end of the day the

01:13:09.360 question is who gets political rights and whose political rights are at stake and so we end so

01:13:16.480 So you guys can spend years and years and decades on who is British and who uses British as an ethnic and who has a civic.

01:13:25.000 At the end of the day, the question is, who gets to have political rights and how will the situation right now change in order to prevent balkanization?

01:13:39.300 and what i think is happening here is just there are some people who are probably melanie phillips

01:13:46.600 there are people who are trying to do this and they're saying essentially well you want you leo

01:13:52.380 and you guys you want to essentially uh take a step backwards from multiculturalism and they

01:14:00.640 are playing the game well yeah but what's my new place in it am i going to be thrown out am i going

01:14:06.400 to be persecuted or something yes what are the grounds so i think at the end of the day it's a

01:14:11.460 good thing if people on the right are very clear about who gets to have political rights and on

01:14:18.560 what basis because fundamentally all of it revolves around that the argument that i've been

01:14:25.620 suggesting um is that if you have pre-1945 or 1948 ancestry in britain obviously that

01:14:35.700 the people who have that ancestral claim cannot be denied that claim. And everybody else who is

01:14:44.040 a recent arrival, like myself, cannot make the same claim by definition. Because up until that

01:14:51.500 point, this was a completely settled question. And there was no, there was no, none of that

01:14:57.680 nonsense about this being Pakistani British or Lebanese British or whatever it is. So that has

01:15:05.320 been my argument for some time now um but you know focusing on this on what melanie phillips is

01:15:12.720 saying all i see here is special pleading but it's remarkable as well especially when you um

01:15:19.120 uh put this to um someone like leo in particular as well because i'm not having a go but leo has

01:15:25.240 been a very very staunch zionist over these years you know he's defended israel throughout everything

01:15:30.100 they've done for the past few years and he's yeah i mean he's obviously on criticisms but like you

01:15:34.240 No, he's obviously on their side, right?

01:15:36.540 He wants them to prosper.

01:15:37.880 He wants them to be safe.

01:15:38.940 He wants them to do well.

01:15:39.960 And so to see Melanie Phillips here,

01:15:42.420 after Leo has put out just such a sensitively worded proposal

01:15:46.860 on just how to move forward and say,

01:15:49.060 and Melanie's kind of turned around and gone,

01:15:50.580 no, you get no reciprocity from me whatsoever.

01:15:54.380 You get nothing, like no moral consideration whatsoever.

01:15:58.120 I mean, this sentence is really striking.

01:16:00.680 Because of the unique and multifaceted nature of Judaism,

01:16:03.780 There is no crossover with British identity.

01:16:06.420 But there is a crossover.

01:16:08.200 Excuse me, didn't she say in the previous post

01:16:11.960 you showed that and a Jew can be British?

01:16:15.420 Say again?

01:16:16.420 She said that you have to be Jewish first.

01:16:20.980 Yeah, but in response to those who said that...

01:16:24.060 Yes, she said that a Hindu and a...

01:16:26.320 That Christianity is essential to the...

01:16:30.320 For the right, Christianity is essential

01:16:32.920 to being british which is factually incorrect no many i know many atheists on the on the on the

01:16:39.020 right but even the atheists their world view fundamentally comes from christian values it

01:16:46.460 was shaped by something they didn't arrive at their secular humanist perspective in a vacuum

01:16:52.060 yeah no wait that's a separate discussion the point i'm making is that her claim that

01:16:57.980 you have to be a christian to be an english person or british is not correct i don't think

01:17:05.540 that is her claim though because her claim is also back can be so the previous one find this

01:17:10.940 one here hold on uh the previous oh that it was before okay before before another before okay no

01:17:23.900 we're out of befores here right because what where she is it where is where leo this one i think

01:17:29.420 it's where leo quotes her yes uh so she says basically here uh yeah the far right noisily

01:17:36.720 identify british identity with christianity but a hindu or a seaker a jew or a muslim is as british

01:17:43.340 as anyone else that's her her opinion is that a hindu or a seaker a jew or muslim can be as british

01:17:48.940 No, I was just saying that she is wrong to say that they do identify all of them.

01:17:53.720 Yes.

01:17:54.100 They're right with...

01:17:55.060 Not all British people are Christians, but Britain cannot be understood except as a Christian country.

01:18:01.800 It can't be understood as a Hindu country.

01:18:03.920 It can't be understood as a Muslim country.

01:18:05.640 It doesn't make sense.

01:18:06.620 It doesn't make sense on the face of it.

01:18:08.540 So the idea that there is a total equality there in the claims is not a valid idea, which is what I'm highlighting here.

01:18:16.940 um but she basically says to leo essentially piss off there is no crossover between the claims that

01:18:26.340 the jews have to israel and the claims that the english have to england but i'm sorry as well

01:18:31.680 what why why am i being lectured to on my own identity from someone who was avowed that their

01:18:39.280 own jewish identity far supersedes any affinity that they actually have for britain and someone

01:18:45.420 who is lecturing me about the future of my country from Israel, why am I just allowing that

01:18:53.000 to have a hold over what I personally believe is the right way to save my country from all of the

01:18:59.800 mounting horrors that have existed over the few decades that I've been alive? And when she says

01:19:05.720 the Jewish identity is ethnic, religious, and cultural, I mean, the cultural bit is a bit

01:19:11.600 questionable, because the culture of Sephardi Jews and the culture of Valasha Jews and the

01:19:16.220 culture of Ashkenazi Jews are different. The ethnic part, these are Valasha Jews. They are

01:19:22.980 of a different ethnicity to Benjamin Netanyahu. And that has to be recognized. And when you look

01:19:29.880 at it genetically, this is a good article here, basically explaining the genetic divergences

01:19:36.780 within Europe versus East Asia, and what it shows is that the level of genetic diversity

01:19:42.400 within Europe is actually quite small. There isn't that much diversity. The biggest diversity

01:19:49.000 and identity within Europe is between Greeks and Latvians, whereas for most of Europe,

01:20:00.040 the genetic diversity is smaller than it is among different groups of Han Chinese,

01:20:05.480 who are viewed universally as one ethnicity despite the presence of this genetic distance

01:20:12.620 within them. So the argument here doesn't make sense and the culture of Europe is just as

01:20:18.740 robust as rest as solid and the idea that a nation is a you know religion ethnicity and culture

01:20:25.680 well this is true of China this is true of India and this is true of Europe and it's not in any way

01:20:32.380 unique just to Jewish people.

01:20:35.240 So all I'm seeing on the part

01:20:37.080 of Mrs. Phillips here is special pleading.

01:20:39.960 And the special

01:20:41.000 pleading isn't very convincing.

01:20:43.460 A bunch of people had replies

01:20:45.120 to her, and

01:20:46.640 Connor had a good reply,

01:20:49.620 which is saying that you open by

01:20:51.120 denying the ethnic roots of British identity.

01:20:53.800 Which is

01:20:54.300 absurd, because this has been a settled

01:20:56.900 identity for a thousand years.

01:20:58.940 And it's been a culturally settled identity

01:21:01.120 for 1500 years so there's no i mean just because anglo-saxons came a few a few tens of thousands

01:21:08.280 people of people came or a few thousand normans or a few you know 50 000 huguenots came in at

01:21:15.700 different points over several centuries that doesn't really change things as much as she's

01:21:20.860 claiming uh but it's still even to this day even as you know we're now at like 72 percent british

01:21:29.180 or whatever it may be at this point,

01:21:31.880 it's still a settled issue because it's still the truth.

01:21:35.680 It doesn't just simply...

01:21:37.680 Even were it that the population of these islands

01:21:41.800 was 1% ethnically British,

01:21:44.940 still the rule would be true

01:21:46.660 because it is always true in all times and all places.

01:21:50.220 It doesn't cease to be just because we're being replaced.

01:21:54.420 Because these guys celebrating Pakistani independence

01:21:57.620 prove it with their every action.

01:21:59.280 Of course they do.

01:22:00.460 Because the Indian people celebrating Rishi Sunak

01:22:03.560 becoming prime minister

01:22:04.500 prove it with their actions.

01:22:06.560 So it's not an argument worth making.

01:22:09.340 And yet, despite this,

01:22:12.320 Melanie a couple of weeks ago,

01:22:13.880 a week ago put out a piece saying

01:22:15.680 restores ideologies the antithesis of Britishness.

01:22:21.080 This is strange.

01:22:23.620 This is strange.

01:22:24.740 um why would she why would she say that the first mistake is to think that skin color represents

01:22:32.380 ethnicity it does not i'm sorry but you can't separate ethnicity from inherited characteristics

01:22:38.880 because it is something that comes by common descent so firas just we need to bear in mind

01:22:45.120 here because there are several pieces against restore especially from the telegraph and yes i

01:22:50.340 think we've we've done a fair bit on yeah again i want to say this and and you know you know i have

01:22:58.920 a good friend working on it in restore so um i want to say it's just they have to work on their

01:23:06.520 policy yes they have to be clear about what they they are because in a way she is as wrong as many

01:23:14.260 people in the restore ecosystem because when when she says right okay so one of my i have i have had

01:23:22.820 some of some criticisms but one of which was they have to launch with clear policies and very clear

01:23:29.940 stances on on matters unless they do they are going to have simultaneously someone like melanie

01:23:36.980 phillips saying well your ideology is the exact opposite of what you claim it to be and other

01:23:43.460 people who are saying well don't disagree with us because if you disagree with us you want us

01:23:48.180 raped and replaced by 2063 which isn't gonna do them isn't gonna help them at all but at the end

01:23:53.220 of the day the question is agree or disagree with what yeah fair enough unless there is a very

01:24:00.500 crystal clear policy plan yes and stances you don't know what it is that these people agree or

01:24:08.180 disagree with and also articles like this that says restores ideology is the opposite of this

01:24:13.780 or the opposite of that it's just no you can't say this because there isn't still a policy thing so

01:24:19.300 they they have to work in it yeah fair enough they i'm all for restore uh elaborating their

01:24:24.900 fallacy policies in more detail uh the fact that over centuries british people are overwhelmingly

01:24:30.020 white-skinned isn't the point british identity was never about being white it was a cultural thing

01:24:34.900 it was never about being white because there was never another question no like it the question

01:24:39.620 itself didn't exist because it was so assumed uh in the same way that there are no laws in britain

01:24:45.460 against cousin marriage because it was never a question to legislate about but it was still a

01:24:52.260 known thing an understood thing and this kind of sleight of hand that she's doing is just not

01:24:58.020 honest nor is britishness and ethnicity it's a civic portmanteau identity spanning the nations

01:25:03.220 of england scotland wales and more contestably ireland well but that's not correct it is you're

01:25:11.080 correct it is because this question was never posed exactly the point is what she's talking

01:25:16.440 about the past and to be fair lots of people talking about ethno-nationalism and civic

01:25:21.660 nationalism look to to the past but right now the question is how to prevent balkanization in the

01:25:28.080 here and now correct and if you know in the spirit of leo of trying to yeah say well let's just uh

01:25:35.060 try and have as many good allies as possible because you don't want bad allies they they will

01:25:41.340 backstab in the spirit of wanting good allies is the question is fundamentally all the the ethnic

01:25:48.600 and the civic nationalism debate boils down to several questions one of which is psychological

01:25:54.520 I will admit this I didn't say this before

01:25:57.420 But it is actually the case

01:25:59.240 One of it is psychological

01:26:00.500 The second is who gets

01:26:02.700 Who gets to vote

01:26:04.220 And the other bit is

01:26:07.400 When you want to completely

01:26:09.400 Reshape society

01:26:10.560 And I think part of Restore wants to do that

01:26:13.800 When you want to

01:26:15.800 Reshape society

01:26:17.220 And you want to be electable

01:26:19.600 You have to make clear your point

01:26:21.280 You have to be very clear

01:26:22.760 absolutely with respect to what you you can't go rousseau yes but just absolutely never go

01:26:27.900 rousseau never go full rousseau absolutely but i just wanted to bring up an article here that

01:26:33.100 that melanie phillips published in the daily mail in 2009 oh right okay uh and in this article she

01:26:43.360 says a bunch of things really uh barbara roche the the um immigration minister under tony blair

01:26:51.000 called for the loosening of immigration controls.

01:26:54.020 The true scope and purpose of this new policy was actively concealed.

01:26:57.840 She goes over how in every manifesto, Labour lied, basically,

01:27:01.820 and promised to control immigration a lot more.

01:27:04.620 But all this concealed a monumental shift of policy.

01:27:08.140 For a journalist that she's quoting, wrote that until at least February last year,

01:27:12.420 when a new points-based system was introduced to limit foreign workers

01:27:15.500 in response to increasing uproar,

01:27:16.980 the purpose of the policy Roche used to Roche ushered in was to open up the UK to mass immigration

01:27:24.360 this has been achieved some 2.3 million migrants have been added to the population since 2001

01:27:30.300 since 97 the number of work permits has quadrupled to 120,000 a year unless policies change over the

01:27:37.980 next 25 years some 7 million more will be added to Britain's population yep that happens to be a

01:27:42.740 lot more than 7 million. A rate of growth three times as fast as took place in the 80s. Such an

01:27:48.360 increase is unsustainable. Britain is already one of the most overcrowded countries in Europe.

01:27:52.960 Now look at the real reason why this policy was introduced. And in secret, the government's

01:27:57.580 driving political purpose was to make the UK truly multicultural. It was therefore a politically

01:28:03.520 motivated attempt by ministers to transform the fundamental makeup and identity of this country.

01:28:08.780 It was done to destroy the right of the British people to live in a society defined by a common history, religion, law, language, and traditions.

01:28:19.260 She misses the bit about ancestry, but she should have included it.

01:28:22.960 It was done to destroy forever what it means to be culturally British, that little word there, and to put another multicultural identity in its place.

01:28:31.700 And it was done without telling or asking the British people whether they wanted their country and their culture to be transformed.

01:28:38.280 Spitefully, one motivation by labor ministers was to rub the right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date.

01:28:46.720 This is Mrs. Phillips speaking in 2009.

01:28:50.140 And she concedes that the transformation that has happened ever since the days of Tony Blair was completely illegitimate and was done with nefarious purposes.

01:29:00.780 now that there is a political party that is saying that this should be reversed

01:29:05.180 she is very busy calling them names and un-British

01:29:08.840 which is just an insane transformation

01:29:11.680 her articles were so popular

01:29:14.780 that they ended up appearing in the manifesto

01:29:19.940 of Anders Běkvyk or whatever his name is

01:29:23.500 Anders Breivik

01:29:26.700 Anders Breivik

01:29:28.220 the murderous lunatic who killed a bunch of children in Norway

01:29:32.620 at a socialist camp.

01:29:35.460 So her views on this were so strong

01:29:38.420 that the furthest of the far right could adopt them

01:29:41.740 and she could be shamed for this by the lefties of the independent.

01:29:47.680 And now she's saying that this very illegitimate thing

01:29:51.040 that she concedes was illegitimate

01:29:52.780 and that she concedes it was done with malice

01:29:55.540 cannot be reversed.

01:29:57.540 This is an untenable position.

01:29:59.500 It has to be reversed or Britain dies.

01:30:01.860 It's that simple.

01:30:02.560 And so my plea is to ignore this nonsense about weaponized allegations of anti-Semitism

01:30:10.000 that are mainly intended to bring the conservatives back into power in a pact with reform

01:30:15.240 and to focus on what you're actually seeing in front of your eyes,

01:30:18.680 which is the very real catastrophic decline of Britain

01:30:22.440 that is beginning to look like the South African decline.

01:30:25.480 so this whole debate just should be completely dismissed and the perspective of the people who

01:30:33.440 say it isn't legitimate to undo what we accept was illegitimate should be completely dismissed

01:30:40.920 that's what i want to say to mrs phillips and before i finish don't forget to get your copy

01:30:48.060 of islander because instead of wasting your time with these kinds of pointless debates over whether

01:30:54.020 or not british people have a claim to their country this actually focuses on what can be

01:30:58.560 done and what should be done yes so please pick up your copy and read it thank you um okay we've

01:31:04.900 already got to uh half past and obviously you've got to be live again in half an hour so i'll tell

01:31:09.600 you what we will uh give the video comments and miss today samson and push them back to tomorrow

01:31:14.620 and i will just uh blitz through uh rumble rants here uh so from adrian marie for five dollars she

01:31:21.300 He says, oh, the irony that the Pakistan celebration in London

01:31:24.820 featured what sounded like an air raid siren.

01:31:27.760 The British need to heed that siren and act based upon the fact that they are being raided.

01:31:33.260 Sigil Stone says, the revealed preferences lately have been very revealing to the normies.

01:31:38.920 I mean, that really is something as well.

01:31:40.820 Just the amount of the comments in the Telegraph articles themselves.

01:31:45.040 They're not happy with it.

01:31:46.100 They're not buying it.

01:31:47.500 $2 from Fictasius.

01:31:49.240 Thank you.

01:31:49.600 says uh you do realize the goal is to get rid of the uk of the britons yeah believe me i noticed

01:31:55.440 uh once you understand this uh you'll realize there's no compromise uh that's random name says

01:32:01.180 skip that sorry no thank you thank you for your warning up to your old tricks random name uh sigil

01:32:06.600 stone for two dollars says my german shepherd was born in japan uh that makes it a shiba inu

01:32:11.400 uh because they are just uh civic breeds and um opunk for five dollars says according to melanie

01:32:17.680 Felix um yeah yeah the whole horse in the stable uh malarkey yeah very good point as well uh thank

01:32:24.360 you for that ladies and gentlemen I'll just I'll tell you what I'll just ramble off a few comments

01:32:28.320 from uh this I'll be very very quick um Chris Kaye from Stelios's segment so Stelios your segment on

01:32:34.700 Jason Arday last week uh was perfectly reasonable and as always balanced with the appropriate amount

01:32:41.400 of levity i know i don't uh need to tell you this but um any knee-jerk criticism of you on this

01:32:47.600 subject is herd-minded idiocy yes um and then from my segment uh myrmidon 2010 says how many of the

01:32:55.300 invaders in sweater will pass through spain and france and head towards their own besieged island

01:32:59.900 of england i wonder um well as many as they let through which is really it's really just a question

01:33:06.000 of how far they wish to walk to be honest with you because there's nothing going to stop them

01:33:10.360 jimbo g says reminder that pedro sanchez has been on holiday since yes yes mentioned um and then

01:33:17.260 from your uh segment firas um um cumbrian kulak says firas thanks for covering this i understand

01:33:24.500 there are various definitions and ideas of what zionism entails the most salient differs from

01:33:29.580 nationalism and that doesn't respect all the nations um they are less um uh that and no

01:33:36.960 honorable mentions today so uh thank you for your time then ladies and gentlemen Firas Stelius

01:33:42.140 thank you for joining me and uh do come back in half an hour to watch Firas's episode of

01:33:47.500 Realpolitik and we look forward to seeing you on the podcast tomorrow friends take care

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - August 17, 2026

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