The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1486

00:00:00.760 Hello there and welcome to the podcast Lotus Eaters episode 1486. We've got a special episode

00:00:06.760 today in that we only have two hosts. That's right, it's just me and it's just Josh. It's

00:00:12.560 like the good old days. Yeah, a little bit of a throwback for everybody who's been watching

00:00:16.660 for a good few years and for another throwback it's going to be nothing but horribly depressing

00:00:22.020 segments just like the good old days, right? And those topics of discussion are going to

00:00:28.080 be. Andy Burnham's plans to try to hide the decline by sweeping it under a bespoke looking

00:00:34.660 rug. Turkish rug. Turkish rug, yeah, yeah. Off the hair of my back, presumably. I'm going to be

00:00:42.040 talking about the feminist response to child murder and the general ineffectiveness of any

00:00:46.880 and all political discussion that happens online when it comes to such subjects and how Pakistan

00:00:53.060 is refusing to take back their rapists.

00:00:56.360 So yeah, what a nice billing today.

00:00:58.360 We've got the decline of Western civilisation,

00:01:01.340 child murder and rape.

00:01:03.360 You're welcome.

00:01:04.480 I'm sure you're all going to look forward to it.

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00:01:29.840 Okay, I'm going to be talking about today how Andy Burnham and the Labour Party

00:01:35.420 and some people in the mainstream media are trying to hide the symptoms of the decline,

00:01:40.620 particularly in British high streets where they're the most visible.

00:01:44.100 It's certainly where most people seem to point to the most noticeable decline in quality of life

00:01:49.780 is being able to walk down their high streets and um of course we're going to be talking about

00:01:55.480 the barber shops the vape shops the american candy stores we've been sounding the alarms on

00:02:01.960 this for longer than a lot of people it was after us that aaron bastani and lots of other people

00:02:05.980 started talking about aaron bastani who at the time when we did some of the first uh turkish

00:02:10.400 barbershop segments was like oh they're everywhere because they're so successful has now become one

00:02:15.420 of the most ardent anti-high street campaigners online where he just goes to random towns and

00:02:21.880 goes it's a bit of a shit all around there isn't it so we even won bastani over do you know what

00:02:28.680 else will win you over islander magazine it's on sale for a limited amount of time so buy it while

00:02:34.820 you still can it is a collector's item so you will not regret it it's only a modest 15 pounds

00:02:42.020 which is not very much money especially these days with inflation as it is so why not pick it up

00:02:48.900 really if we were going with inflation we should have already tripled the price by that's true

00:02:52.900 actually yeah we're being very generous we're basically giving it away but with that out of

00:02:57.940 the way it's worth mentioning that we have indeed as harry alluded to been talking about this for

00:03:02.980 quite some time i went down manchester road in april of 2025 after we'd already been talking

00:03:08.420 about this for a long time just to document it there i look very tired and depressed and i still

00:03:13.620 am um but in that video um to to cut a long story short which you can watch for free on our website

00:03:19.500 by the way um i saw four kebab shops seven foreign food shops and five barbers on just one street in

00:03:26.620 swindon according to mainstream economic theory that level of competition should ensure that each

00:03:33.100 of those establishments is of the highest quality possible that is true or maybe it's just the fact

00:03:39.940 that people have been growing hair at such an accelerated rate over the past five years

00:03:44.240 the amount of hair growth and immigration seems to be correlating quite rapidly really it's quite

00:03:50.500 strange um but it's it's sort of entered the mainstream especially this summer where even

00:03:57.220 the bbc saying does one town center um street need seven barber shops um which is nice to see

00:04:04.700 that it's there i suppose it's came out on my birthday this was an article they wrote just for

00:04:08.740 me everyone say happy birthday to harry for a couple of months ago now a couple of weeks ago

00:04:13.960 whatever feels like months um a couple of weeks ago so petulant whatever whatever happy 30th

00:04:24.240 birthday harry thank you josh thank you he's in in the chat everyone i don't know um but anyway

00:04:30.460 andy burnham has announced a measure to address this now he is the new prime minister i'm just

00:04:36.880 going to read out a little bit of what has been said here because uh what are you laughing about

00:04:42.420 sorry just what i just got a glimpse of the latest rumble rant and it's it's tickled me

00:04:48.860 Okay, I'm looking forward to reading that later.

00:04:52.200 So, high streets have been hollowed out

00:04:55.600 by the unchecked spread of vape stores,

00:04:58.020 betting shops and rogue businesses

00:04:59.680 that do little to serve local communities

00:05:01.940 are set to face a crackdown under new powers

00:05:04.260 announced by the Prime Minister today.

00:05:06.120 Now, this sounds promising, doesn't it?

00:05:07.980 At least something's being done about it.

00:05:10.000 Sure, it's Labour.

00:05:11.500 But now they've said they're going to do something,

00:05:13.720 it's at least going to be better than nothing, right?

00:05:16.240 I honestly have more confidence

00:05:17.940 that Labour will do something about this than the Tories ever did.

00:05:21.420 The Tories, like James Cleverley, came out after this and said,

00:05:24.880 oh, well, it's all because of the increase in business rates

00:05:27.680 that the high streets, Labour's business rate increase

00:05:30.320 have destroyed high streets.

00:05:33.000 The decline started during the Tory prime ministership,

00:05:38.520 during the Tory government for 14 years.

00:05:40.460 That's when I started to notice all of the high streets dying around me.

00:05:44.300 So it's not just one government's problem.

00:05:46.720 I think in part it's just so expensive to own a business that legitimate businesses have been forced out, whereas the only way you can basically survive on a modern high street is if you're part of a large corporation, one of the few businesses that's sort of inoculated to the decline, or you're a criminal enterprise. And what we're going to be talking about today is the latter.

00:06:11.360 Yeah, and again, this seems to have been like a continual bipartisan government policy that's just carried on throughout multiple governments.

00:06:20.800 Whether it's Labour or the Conservatives, it's only gotten worse.

00:06:24.480 And, you know, the difference between the two is negligible, but at least Labour try and appear to be containing the right, I suppose.

00:06:33.340 but i would argue that's still a bad thing because uh as we'll get into in a bit it doesn't go far

00:06:39.160 enough to address the root cause of the problem because of course they won't um as part of the

00:06:43.660 pm's plans to save britain's high streets which is very ambitious um the government intends to

00:06:48.860 revoke the gambling acts outdated aim to permit rule which currently restricts the ability of

00:06:54.180 councils to refuse new betting shops and 24-hour slot machine shops even where there are strong

00:07:00.360 local concerns now that was a blair policy so blair just decided sorry your high street has

00:07:06.400 to be bet freds now nothing we can do about it but the thing is people the general complaint

00:07:12.340 hasn't necessarily been the betting shops although they are one of the things that and sort of pound

00:07:16.880 shops that seem to survive and greg's as well they seem to survive greg's is larger corporation

00:07:24.180 serves fast food

00:07:26.520 you can see how it would survive

00:07:28.040 I hate the gambling shops

00:07:30.740 I'm not a fan of them

00:07:32.420 I've never used a gambling shop in my entire life

00:07:34.700 they're ugly, they're loud

00:07:36.220 they have the same kind of like

00:07:37.840 neon flashing aesthetic that a lot of the

00:07:40.320 foreign shops do and there are also

00:07:42.540 lots of side aura effects that come

00:07:44.320 out the other end of them

00:07:45.460 which is that you end up with a load of

00:07:48.300 gambling crackheads stood around outside

00:07:50.380 of them in your high street begging you for money

00:07:52.640 yes

00:07:53.440 so obviously I'm not going to complain about this

00:07:56.880 I think actually it's good that local councils can say

00:07:59.420 actually no we don't want any more gambling shops

00:08:03.260 but also these shops aren't normally run by

00:08:06.780 they can be run by foreign criminal gangs

00:08:10.260 but usually they're large corporations aren't they

00:08:14.680 noticeable names like you mentioned Betfred is one

00:08:17.580 Ladbrokes and all

00:08:18.700 yeah all of these where they're the same company in every town

00:08:22.880 still like as far as i'm concerned gambling should be restricted to large scale mafia run casinos

00:08:29.620 like small native american native american those are people i would be happy to import in to run

00:08:36.600 our casinos okay they're experts now they know how to have a good time but some like just like

00:08:41.940 a street where you've got three or four betfreds and ladbrooks and other various ones like you can

00:08:46.900 walk into swindon town center on the way there's that horrible dilapidated street which is

00:08:51.120 just betting shops agent street yeah and that's where all the crackheads are like the foreign

00:08:56.600 shops will attract the foreign criminal element the betting shops um attract the white crack

00:09:02.700 addicted underclass element to your town yeah which to be fair are the people that have given

00:09:07.140 me the most trouble in my life like the foreign people generally stay away from me whereas the

00:09:13.080 the white uh underclass are the ones that have the nerve to disturb my day a lot of the time

00:09:18.900 but anyway the change would give communities and councils a strong say over whether new

00:09:23.340 betting shops are right for their areas which actually i do agree with helping them uh stop

00:09:29.040 the spread of unchecked um across struggling high streets i think i misread that slightly but you get

00:09:34.920 the gist the government will also require planning permission for vape shops to finally give local

00:09:39.440 people and councils a say over whether they open and to stop them opening near schools i think them

00:09:44.920 not being near schools is probably a good thing um also we've seen examples of nice old tudor

00:09:50.600 buildings and they have a vape shop in a very garish sign very ugly and capital punishment for

00:09:55.940 that um the definition of a vape shop will also be tightened to stop businesses getting around

00:10:02.820 new rules by claiming to be general convenience stores or a retailer and then um it also says

00:10:10.000 adult gaming centers which are adult only venues offering 24-hour access to gambling machines such

00:10:15.380 as slots and fruit machines will also require planning permission under proposals due to come

00:10:19.440 into effect at the start of next year so they are making it harder I suppose but this is something

00:10:26.280 and then they talk about the rapid spread and then it says the maximum length of a closure

00:10:31.840 order because they're looking at closing down people who are doing these things illegally the

00:10:39.460 Maximum length of closure orders will be doubled from 6 to 12 months,

00:10:43.700 giving police and local authorities more time to investigate premises linked to organised crime,

00:10:48.920 pursue prosecutions and prevent rogue businesses from illegal vape shops and dodgy barbershops

00:10:55.200 reopening before investigations are complete.

00:10:58.260 So it inconveniences them for longer.

00:11:00.920 So it's still better than nothing, I suppose.

00:11:03.980 It does help to rein in some of the more hostile, antisocial elements of high streets.

00:11:09.100 If you've got less betting shops, if places are forced to look nicer, if places that are shut down can stay shut down longer, like in my local town, one of the foreign shops, well, the only major foreign shop that opened in the town centre has been shut down on an antisocial behaviour closure order, because obviously it was a criminal enterprise.

00:11:30.660 The longer that can stay shut, or if it can just stay shut forever, open up the unit, get somebody else to come in instead, that's better.

00:11:37.440 But like you say, it doesn't sort the source of the problem.

00:11:41.520 Yeah, and obviously the source of the problem is that a lot of these organizations, particularly the barber shops, the American candy shops, the vape shops, blah, blah, blah.

00:11:53.880 All of those ones, not so much the betting shops, which as we've discussed, tend to be owned by companies, but are still bad in their own ways.

00:12:00.660 But these foreign owned shops are basically money laundering operations for county line drug gangs.

00:12:07.860 That's obviously why they're there, because they're not making money legitimately because they don't have enough customers.

00:12:13.980 I'm going to quickly jump to this before going backwards.

00:12:17.060 But we can see here from the Financial Times on Britain's high streets,

00:12:20.620 you can see that betting shops have actually gone down since 2015 to 2025 over that 10 year period.

00:12:25.920 whereas barber shops have exploded um as have vape shops vape shops far less so than barber

00:12:33.460 shops though as well as um fast food takeaways as well that's another one that i think doesn't

00:12:39.440 get enough attention i see lots of takeaways that just get hardly any custom and they've got some

00:12:44.320 sort of fossilized rotating piece of unidentified meat in there that never seems to uh get touched

00:12:51.040 by anyone and you've just got to ask yourself when 10 well 11 years ago in 2015 when we only

00:12:56.500 had 3 000 barber shots only had about 3 000 fast food takeaways was it that the population of 2015

00:13:03.820 was just underserved to the point of what like six or seven times over almost 10 times over

00:13:11.180 it's why in the 70s and 60s everyone had such long hair there just weren't enough

00:13:15.140 barbers to go around and the explanation yeah and of course um the the number of barber shops

00:13:22.420 relative to the number of heads that need their haircut has not gone up by what three times in

00:13:30.060 10 years i mean proportionally the vape shops have shot up from 262 to 3 000 to almost 4 000

00:13:36.620 the thing is with some of the vape shops as well some of them are actually legitimately owned and

00:13:41.180 and legitimate businesses because there is an actual market um for vaping which has grown

00:13:46.920 in popularity they are still i i still think whether they're owned by natives or otherwise

00:13:52.840 they're still horrible eyesores i agree um they're certainly not things you want littering your high

00:13:58.180 streets you want it to be nice and quaint you want you know a baker's a butcher's a green

00:14:03.280 grocers but of course you also need the conditions for that to exist in the first place

00:14:08.600 but to go back to what I skipped over HMRC is also urging people to report to these shops that they

00:14:16.340 think might be committing fraud now I've actually done this people say well Josh you know you talk

00:14:23.840 about these issues what have you done but when I lived in Swindon I tipped off the police about a

00:14:28.720 few shops that were clearly fronts for organized crime long before you know this was a widespread

00:14:34.140 thing and they actually said that they were aware of it but they just need the resources to tackle

00:14:38.320 them all because there are so many which was surprisingly candid actually from the police

00:14:43.080 but they did take it seriously they did take the details down and hopefully something will be done

00:14:47.720 about it i've not looked because i've moved out of swindon since but uh what they're saying is

00:14:52.840 that the tax authorities improved um report tax fraud service asks members of the public to

00:14:58.320 provide factual details about anything they have witnessed that appears suspicious that can include

00:15:02.580 the behavior of staff location of a business when suspicious activity took place or concerns about

00:15:08.240 money laundering and tax fraud well my example is i i because there are no real english barbers

00:15:15.460 here i had to get my hair cut so i had to go to one of these shops in swindon when i lived here

00:15:20.340 and um they only accepted cash and then uh the barber just started talking to me about taking

00:15:27.720 and you know the other barbers taking drugs what the ones that he was working with yeah

00:15:34.920 and I was just like well you must at least have some contact with it you've not admitted to

00:15:39.880 selling it I suppose but what you're basically saying is that you're in that world and you're

00:15:45.440 working in a cash only business and you're not from this country and I know that they launder

00:15:50.340 money so I assume you've been human trafficked into this position so that you work here and pay

00:15:56.840 off debts something like that but um it carries on to say um information submitted will be assessed

00:16:04.800 by HMRC enforcement teams helping investigators identify patterns and target businesses they

00:16:09.800 believe could be breaking the law. So not that HMRC has ever been my friend but at least in this

00:16:16.660 one instance one thing you can do to help clean up your high street is tip them off about foreign

00:16:23.960 businesses that might be avoiding paying their taxes. You know I'm not a big fan of taxes but

00:16:29.900 if we can use hmrc to do a good thing then let's not write it off also in your local area if you

00:16:37.440 can get maybe a couple of dozen people to all uh lodge complaints to your local council or other

00:16:42.420 authorities about the anti-social behavior and other such things going on at these shops

00:16:47.420 they can actually do something about it potentially that that is very true and uh as

00:16:54.320 max tempest here points out the the cost of the average male haircut according to the ons i'm

00:16:59.000 amazed they keep data on that actually has risen from 13 pounds 10 in 2015 to 20 pounds and 28

00:17:05.840 pence in 2025 around 12 in real terms during this period of apparently a massive supply boom

00:17:13.220 so something is amiss here if you know your economics because if there is a massive supply

00:17:18.720 of barbers they all need to be undercutting each other to compete for your head not in a literal

00:17:24.520 sense but uh your the hair on it to cut it to make money um so you would presume that this massive

00:17:32.000 explosion of barbershops in the past 10 years would have pushed the price down not up but instead

00:17:36.400 it is almost doubled in 10 years which seems to suggest that perhaps some of these might not be

00:17:42.800 interested in cutting hair just saying um but now let's talk a little bit about containment shall

00:17:49.660 we? Because we all know that the reason that Labour are addressing this is because they don't

00:17:54.780 want to address the elephant in the room here which is immigration. This is something that has

00:17:59.860 co-occurred with immigration. These are foreign people and they're fronts for foreign gangs and

00:18:06.780 the way you solve it is by deporting those people. There's no real way to avoid it otherwise. They're

00:18:12.860 either going to be in our prisons or be in our economy doing criminal things so they're going

00:18:17.220 to be costing the British people in some way one way or another and the simplest thing is to get

00:18:22.100 rid of them but they don't want to do that so what they're going to do is hide the symptoms of the

00:18:27.400 decline and you know do things that superficially tidy things up a little bit but not go far enough

00:18:33.400 that we can have a restoration of you know at least our best shot in the online age of having

00:18:39.640 a high street of course you know there's things like Amazon and online ordering is now more popular

00:18:44.720 so it makes it harder for the high street however it need not be the way it is it is possible for

00:18:50.900 these shops to survive and actually people quite like going to physical shops and I think there'll

00:18:55.540 always be a market for it and so it's just a matter of creating the conditions where that can exist

00:19:01.780 but they're not doing that what they're doing is alleviating the concerns about immigration

00:19:07.020 by removing all of the visible signs of the decline and therefore containing the issue of

00:19:11.980 immigration that's what's actually going on here um would you agree harry well yes uh when i covered

00:19:18.520 this the other week um i found some people saying that they'd already been taking measures like this

00:19:24.840 in huddersfield and the only thing that it meant was that instead of the local foreign criminal shop

00:19:30.500 being bright and garish and neon uh they tried to look more demure and bespoke but it's still

00:19:38.420 ultimately a foreign criminal enterprise that you have on your high street whether or not they've

00:19:43.360 tried to gussy it up and even then the signs that they were using yeah they wanted to look like they

00:19:49.240 had gold gilding to them and times new roman gold lettering so they look a bit more posh and proper

00:19:55.480 it's still ultimately a cheap plastic sign that they had it was just less in your face so it still

00:20:01.280 kind of looks gross yes you're allowed to run a money laundering operation in our town but it

00:20:07.380 can't look garish and tasteless you have to you know last that sign up a little bit well that's

00:20:13.500 just one of the other that's just one of the consequences of letting these people into your

00:20:17.240 into your country and into your neighborhood which is they have no taste whatsoever that is

00:20:23.020 very true so here's an article from the times talking about this and this was interesting

00:20:28.220 because of what it didn't mention which was the elephant in the room immigration um it basically

00:20:34.540 says that the reason the high street has died is because we stopped using it um and therefore

00:20:41.060 um it's not been hollowed out by these shops it's just that what remains is is there well this is

00:20:47.420 part of it yeah again i mentioned that high streets started struggling when you had you know

00:20:55.240 supermarkets introduced uh which made everything more convenient out of town retail parks out of

00:21:00.800 town enormous shopping centers um for like uh retail for um designer outlets and such and also

00:21:07.700 obviously internet shopping online shopping had a massive effect as well but let's not pretend that

00:21:12.860 that's it let's not pretend that those are the only things come on people are actually more

00:21:18.340 enthusiastic about going to like local bookshops than they have been in a long while presumably

00:21:23.260 because there's a feeling in the air that they need to start getting back into the real world

00:21:27.560 and out of supermarkets and out of online shopping exactly so she she does acknowledge that hey the

00:21:33.560 some of these shops are fronts for for crime and she says yeah that's true but it's already illegal

00:21:39.240 therefore um new laws are not going to help or doing anything about it it's already illegal just

00:21:46.400 give the you know there needs to be more police which is not really a proper solution and she does

00:21:52.500 say that you know there are some things you can do like reducing business rates to get young people

00:21:57.080 into businesses which is something small but a lot more needs to be done no mention of immigration

00:22:02.760 the underlying thing and this tends to be the underlying trend I haven't you know bored you

00:22:07.420 to death with lots of examples of it but read articles in the mainstream about it and you'll

00:22:12.260 notice that they'll talk about it but they'll skirt over the heart of the issue here and it's

00:22:17.280 also worth mentioning as well this was in May of 2026 that they set up a 20 million pound

00:22:24.680 national crime agency cell to tackle these criminal gangs operating from dodgy shops as they call it

00:22:32.940 and also the home office said that 75 new police officers were recruited and just you know maybe

00:22:40.340 they've been doing something but I haven't noticed any tangible difference in high streets across the

00:22:45.900 country that I've seen this hasn't nearly been enough and it just goes to show that you can

00:22:52.740 introduce all of these different measures but when it comes down to it you've just got to deport them

00:22:58.620 and that's really all there is and in fact uh you've got james o'brien here when was this may

00:23:04.520 of this year last year i think but yeah last year sorry so this was early on when jenrik was was

00:23:10.960 talking about it for the very first time um talking about turkish barbershops and he implied

00:23:15.420 that it was racist to point it out i knew that he would have the best take on this but also there's

00:23:20.540 another element which i think is actually probably the worst element of all that really goes

00:23:25.520 understated and that is the visa sponsorship side of things here's a business here we've

00:23:30.900 uncovered numerous visa sponsorship anomalies our first concerns edmar recruitment services

00:23:37.460 limited in bedford freedom of information requests reveal that 44 care workers were sponsored by this

00:23:42.540 company in 2023 which you know look at the size of where the business is operating do you think

00:23:48.200 they're really sponsoring 44 care workers or is this just an entry to citizenship with a further

00:23:53.240 79 workers sponsored in 2025 which is just absurd um and and then they talk about the fact that

00:24:01.120 the company's been in liquidation yeah interesting um so they're still sponsoring people despite the

00:24:07.220 fact that they're liquidating the company so there are lots of loopholes here um there are 79 vape

00:24:12.960 shops and the home office public registers of licensed visa sponsors i don't know why you need

00:24:17.960 to import someone as skilled labor from abroad to run a vape shop also that vape shop sign

00:24:23.420 literally looks like the the german eagle in sydney a nazi vape shop staffed by foreigners

00:24:32.840 or employ are sponsoring foreign visas to get into our country come on where's the spirit of

00:24:38.400 church or when you need it and here's uh uh one that did the rounds um here that in one street

00:24:45.360 um there were 77 visa sponsors um and multiple different businesses um you've got uk as well

00:24:53.040 spelt like that um you've got a phone repair shop you've got these weird uk international shops

00:25:01.120 which are obviously fronts for foreigners just coming into the country and uh cex yeah i don't

00:25:09.260 think they're sponsoring foreigners it's normally they're sponsoring emos maybe i was gonna say yeah

00:25:13.560 the top sponsor of emo kids in the country yeah long may they reign um and then here's another

00:25:21.040 one as well um they're an a-rated skilled worker visa sponsor a pizza shop only that it's not

00:25:27.640 existed since 2024 and there's no trace of it on company's house and it apparently never existed

00:25:33.460 in fact there's a different business running it so there's layers upon layers and layers of fraud

00:25:38.800 in this that is just an avenue for random people to get sponsorships you don't need to be skilled

00:25:45.520 and imported into the country to make pizzas i think there are plenty of people here that are

00:25:50.920 already capable you can even get people from italy to do it if you really want to if you're

00:25:54.940 If you're wondering how these people survive without any customers in their shops, I'd

00:25:58.180 imagine they're getting quite a lot of money for sponsoring all of these visas.

00:26:01.380 I would imagine so, it's a business in its own right.

00:26:03.740 And there is this website here, ukdeclined.co.uk forward slash visa sponsor list.

00:26:10.980 If you want a fun Saturday afternoon.

00:26:12.660 If you want to find some businesses yourself that are sponsoring visas and go to your local

00:26:17.180 council and make a fuss about it to get them out of your town, that is one thing you can

00:26:22.260 be doing to improve it and of course even the bbc is saying car washes and vape shops can still

00:26:29.740 sponsor skilled foreign workers despite visa changes so nothing's been done about this and

00:26:35.760 in fact here only eight days ago here is the daily mail saying how thousands of firms from car washes

00:26:42.560 to vape shops and kebab takeaways have imported migrants on skilled worker visas and why our

00:26:47.120 bloated welfare system is adding to the scandal but this is the unspoken tragedy here it's not

00:26:51.980 that they're laundering money and dilapidating the high street is that it's bringing in lots of

00:26:57.880 other people that who knows who they are what they're doing because they're clearly not working

00:27:02.140 for these businesses so what are they doing in our country i think the obvious solution here

00:27:07.120 to all of this is just to deport them

00:27:09.480 got a few super chats in for that one i want to see the one that you uh were laughing so the one

00:27:16.300 yeah the one that got me that's one tall order for two dollars josh soft when josh firm walks in

00:27:23.340 it's so stupid it took me off guard when i glanced at it uh gentlemen important episode

00:27:31.580 on thursday tell me the guest will be steve laws i wonder what you're on about yeah yeah

00:27:37.580 cookie boy how does creating all the mayorships and unitary councils square with the government

00:27:42.540 just overriding them yeah well i think that there isn't burnham's plan to give them more

00:27:50.940 um power and it's potentially to give them more power but there's a few there's a few ways that

00:27:56.380 you could read it one which is that the government is stupid and are just handing over all of their

00:28:01.280 power to these authorities uh two is the idea that they are going to strangle them with funds

00:28:08.800 so it's like oh well that's great you've got all of this authority but you can't do anything about

00:28:13.500 it without the money that we give you so do what we want anyway or that they're just going to use

00:28:18.120 them to fill up with Labour Party loyalists who'll do whatever the main government wants anyway

00:28:24.000 whenever it's a Labour government and we'll fight back hard against the conservative reform or

00:28:28.920 otherwise government just entrenched the bureaucracy further uh Sigil Stane says I've discovered a

00:28:33.780 foreign criminal syndicate in London with ties to Israel it's operating out of number 10 Downing

00:28:38.160 street and also presumably like china pakistan france god forbid

00:28:44.880 um that's a random name says i've been reliably informed that all of these criminal enterprises

00:28:51.840 are run by british people and we therefore can't do anything about it in fact the soy-lution

00:28:57.440 spelt like soy we just is to import more new britains in just throwing soy in here there

00:29:04.280 and everywhere liberal use of soy all right then uh we've got the next segment up so on for another

00:29:11.860 uh sunny topic which is um the way that online feminism and even online feminism's enemies are

00:29:20.260 going a little bit too far in diluting conversation and making it so that something that's a very very

00:29:25.740 serious subject in a particular story that's been going through the news um is uh not being treated

00:29:32.780 with the kind of weight that it deserves.

00:29:35.220 Now, this is going to be talking primarily about a really awful story

00:29:38.760 that I'd seen a little bit of, but only really read up on properly

00:29:42.780 with all of the information this morning,

00:29:45.000 which was the trial of Lindsay Clancy going on in Massachusetts in America

00:29:48.820 who murdered her three children.

00:29:51.440 Now, the article that I have here, the CBS, sorry, CBC,

00:29:55.780 this is the Canadian broadcaster, their article says,

00:29:58.800 accused of killing her three children, that's not in dispute.

00:30:01.440 the defense are not disputing that she killed her three children it's the response to it and

00:30:05.860 how she should be uh treated afterwards which is which is the question of the trial uh right

00:30:11.820 really awful horrible subject and i don't think that anybody is taking it as seriously as they

00:30:18.680 should be i'm not going to try to be overly sympathetic uh with the situation but there

00:30:24.140 is actually a lot of gray area in this particular subject more broadly uh that i don't think people

00:30:30.440 are actually analyzing properly because feminists just want to say yeah women should be allowed to

00:30:35.320 kill their children at any age um late late late late late term abortion style or and people and

00:30:42.360 some of the anti-feminists are basically saying that like um oh postpartum depression postpartum

00:30:48.140 psychosis these are all things which are fake and made up and aren't real and therefore um we

00:30:54.700 shouldn't address any of the issues that come as a result of them when it comes to motherhood and

00:31:00.040 having newborns or anything like that. So I think the conversation is fundamentally

00:31:03.920 unserious, and I would like to balance that out a little bit. But if you want to

00:31:07.980 find somewhere where conversation is serious, and where people aren't just

00:31:11.980 trying to signal their status to other people around them, then you

00:31:16.000 should read Islander, where we don't just talk about horrible, awful things that are

00:31:19.880 happening in the world. And in fact, with this issue specifically, you're asking what can

00:31:24.100 be done, and in it you can find a number of excellent articles from people like my

00:31:27.940 friend henry martin reactionary reading law talking about uh the correct way to use influence

00:31:33.960 online to get political goals achieved so if you want to pick that up and give it a read

00:31:39.820 14.99 on the lotus eaters merchandise website while stocks last so available internationally

00:31:46.000 as well yes available internationally as well so i'll go through the details of this story uh if

00:31:51.040 you're not familiar with it um it's pretty i've just come back from being on holiday it's pretty

00:31:56.540 horrible and i've missed all the horrible news i feel so rejuvenated and now i come back to this

00:32:01.340 so basically the murder trial is ongoing right now clancy's uh so the the story is that this

00:32:08.080 woman lindsey clancy is a former labor and delivery nurse ironically enough not the kind

00:32:13.300 of position that you would want her to have been in given what she ended up doing uh was struggling

00:32:17.680 with mental health and seeing multiple specialists in 2022 uh she was prescribed 13 different

00:32:23.020 psychiatric medications across different providers. Her attorneys say that she did

00:32:29.060 everything that she could to seek help. Multiple outpatient providers tried various drugs they

00:32:34.200 prescribed, called a suicide hotline, went to an emergency room and approached but wasn't accepted

00:32:38.240 into a hospital-based full-day treatment program for women with post-pregnancy mental health

00:32:42.120 problems, and she tried to track herself into a psychiatric hospital for several days but was

00:32:46.700 eventually discharged. Rather than improving her condition, her defense attorneys are saying that

00:32:51.920 the cocktail of psychiatric medications and all of the problems that came with not getting the

00:32:56.220 right treatment had made things worse. And as a result of this, what happened was that on the

00:33:01.280 24th of January in 2023, she texted her husband, Patrick, Patrick, well, now ex-husband, Patrick

00:33:07.940 Clancy, late in the afternoon, asking him to pick up takeout and medicine. During his absence from

00:33:13.260 their Duxbury, Massachusetts home, prosecutors say that Clancy used exercise bands to strangle

00:33:19.100 their three children to death five-year-old Cora three-year-old Dawson and eight-month-old Callan

00:33:23.880 she then cut her own wrists and throat she stabbed herself in the throat and jumped out of a second

00:33:29.800 story window 20 feet in an attempted suicide attempt she's now paralyzed from the waist down

00:33:36.140 and has been attending to the court proceedings in a wheelchair but she did survive the suicide

00:33:40.660 attempt now so the defense are not saying that she didn't kill them it's an awful horrible story

00:33:47.380 they are simply arguing that she should be checked into a psychiatric hospital

00:33:51.860 and treated there rather than imprisoned for the rest of her life by the prosecution who are saying

00:33:59.180 that whether or not there were these problems she was in control of her own actions and should be

00:34:03.780 punished with life sentences now personally for me in terms of what has been done and why it happened

00:34:09.280 there's no excuse for it ultimately an evil has been done evil should be punished realistically

00:34:15.940 if it was a just world, I would suggest capital punishment. I don't believe that Massachusetts

00:34:20.280 is a state that would give capital punishment. I don't know if they have it. I don't think it's

00:34:25.420 legal there. But, you know, if anything, I would argue that that's a mercy. I can't imagine when

00:34:31.740 you come back into your right mind, realising that you've done such a heinous thing, that life

00:34:35.900 would be anything other than suffering afterwards. And so both in the pursuit of justice and as a

00:34:41.300 mercy i would suggest capital punishment realistically though i think she should be

00:34:45.300 locked away for the rest of her life that's if not that yeah yeah so it's a complicated thing

00:34:52.060 isn't it because it's undeniable that she's got some degree of mental health problems um i don't

00:34:58.080 think anyone's really debating that and so that side of things is is in my mind settled particularly

00:35:04.000 considering what she did um but also i don't think that that's an excuse to avoid punishing

00:35:10.440 someone, right? No, of course. And in many instances, I think someone being so mentally ill

00:35:15.980 that they're at danger to people and children around them is all the more reason to remove

00:35:21.580 them from society, be it through prison or through capital punishment. And so the two

00:35:28.340 things being at odds is one of those mistakes of the Western philosophy of law that I think

00:35:35.180 needs to be rectified because someone needs to be removed if they're in this sort of state

00:35:42.160 although it is it does seem to be true that she she did seek help and was denied it and so there

00:35:47.240 is a case that well was there some degree of culpability for the mental health service there's

00:35:52.500 also a civil suit going against all of the medical services around her that seem to have been

00:36:00.060 neglectful and failed in this situation and i do think there needs to be culpability because

00:36:05.280 clearly there wasn't the communication going on properly and they weren't taking it seriously

00:36:08.740 and when you're dealing with things like postpartum depression postpartum psychosis

00:36:14.040 one of the really difficult things that people need to recognize is that this kind of behavior

00:36:20.960 is sadly way more common than we like to acknowledge in the real world um it's a fact

00:36:28.260 of nature that other animals if put into stressful positions will kill their own young we know that

00:36:34.580 they we know that this happens in nature and we like to think that we as humans are separate from

00:36:39.440 that uh but we're not as separate as we would like to be and so with that acknowledged really

00:36:47.120 these services should have recognized the warning signs and taken her away from her children at the

00:36:52.520 first opportunity given that she obviously ended up being um a fatal danger to her own children

00:36:58.740 and tried to by explaining what happens you're not um you know removing any culpability from her

00:37:07.440 but you know these things don't just happen for no reason there is a reason behind it and of course

00:37:12.780 um after pregnancy women have you know a storm of various hormonal changes as well it can be

00:37:19.300 very tumultuous and if you have on top of that a cocktail of was it 13 different psychiatric

00:37:24.720 medications different medications including mood stabilizer lamotrigine antidepressant

00:37:31.080 trazodone and quitopine quetiapine i should say and she was also being she also had undiagnosed

00:37:39.560 bipolar disorder and she was also being treated for insomnia and other such things and the three

00:37:46.240 months before the killings clinicians prescribed a range of antidepressants sleep aids and

00:37:50.040 antipsychotic and other medications while she was reporting increasingly profound insomnia anxiety

00:37:55.860 despair and confusion about what was real according to a civil lawsuit filed against the caregivers

00:38:00.820 that claims they should have recognized that she and her children were at risk she also claims

00:38:04.700 uh that she was hearing voices in her head and i'm sorry like they should have like they should

00:38:11.260 have known they they should have done something about this not to take her own culpability away

00:38:16.800 from the situation uh but as well i know that people don't like when the left said things like

00:38:22.160 it takes a village to raise a child but it really is not a single person operation and even as

00:38:26.860 parents it takes a lot of help to be able to do something and when you're isolated when you're

00:38:32.180 sleep deprived um postpartum the hormones and clearly mental health problems with a cocktail

00:38:38.920 of medication that is it's a situation that will drive someone to insanity yeah it's incredibly

00:38:44.060 stressful children love to scream they love to cry constantly that kind of noise can really get to you

00:38:49.920 because it's like biologically designed to activate your stress response uh there are all of these

00:38:55.660 different factors that go into being a parent and being and from looking into it you know i was

00:39:01.140 expecting to find some part of this story where the husband was maybe not there he was maybe away

00:39:06.980 from home all the time or maybe there were stories about the pro that maybe the defense

00:39:10.940 were going to talk about how oh he wasn't there to help look after the kids he was neglectful

00:39:14.620 towards the kids uh he wasn't he just left her to do the whole nothing like that not been able

00:39:19.880 to find anything like that so it's not even like he wasn't helping it's clear that she was

00:39:25.020 not in her right mind and should not have been trusted to look after her own children given what

00:39:31.680 she was uh going through and all of the failures just led to this horrible horrible situation

00:39:36.760 and really i think that she should be put out of a misery but that's not on the table that's uh

00:39:42.920 that's not on the table so it's a really horrible story and just people going like

00:39:47.380 postpartum isn't real that's unhelpful people saying that oh there's um like mental health

00:39:55.740 stuff isn't real that's not helpful people saying that oh she's selfish and that's the

00:40:01.000 only reason that she did this that's not helpful but also resolving these issues for issue for

00:40:06.760 people in the future and it's not particularly helpful for mothers who may be suffering

00:40:11.740 and struggling or fathers who are struggling with all this stuff right now to hear oh your

00:40:17.120 struggles aren't real and oftentimes from random childless anons on the internet it's like great

00:40:23.000 thanks big help also the the debate isn't you know whether something is real or not is whether

00:40:30.300 something is a clinical condition or not the emotions are real regardless of whether it is

00:40:36.060 clinical or not you know if you're feeling very low the debate isn't um you know are you really

00:40:42.540 feeling depressed are you really feeling bad or um is it just that you're feeling normal and you

00:40:47.480 just don't realize it no the debate is um is this clinical depression is this its own discrete

00:40:53.060 condition or is this the sum total of of the normal human experience and you know the normal

00:41:00.180 human experience can can still be excruciating you know that you know normal human beings still

00:41:06.620 experience very extreme unpleasant emotions even if that is the case and so that to discredit it

00:41:13.300 from being a factor is is a form of madness on its own yeah and some of the reports i've been

00:41:17.860 seeing like that like this that apparently the prosecutors or one of their attempts in their uh

00:41:21.980 their cases to try and theorize that she faked the suicide attempt she slashed her wrist stabbed

00:41:28.360 herself in the neck and jumped out a 20-foot building, a 20-foot window. That's a pretty

00:41:35.420 far way to go to fake such a thing, especially now that she's ended up crippled. So some

00:41:41.580 of the arguments, I think, I know the state's just doing what they have to to try and get

00:41:45.240 what they're after, but that's a pretty flimsy excuse for a case. I think, again, I think

00:41:52.020 just in the case of justice, she needs to be put away, there needs to be on a societal

00:41:56.500 level both in terms of like the individual case of evil that has happened with the murder of these

00:42:01.500 children and on a broader societal level justice must be done she needs to be put away again my

00:42:06.760 preferred option doesn't seem to be on the table but that doesn't mean that i don't see that there

00:42:11.600 is a broader story going on here as well again with all of the drugs and the failures around

00:42:17.200 her and her family i can't imagine being that father getting home no that's a very horrible

00:42:23.360 situation apparently he's been remarried now and he is basically trying to stay out of the spotlight

00:42:29.400 but he had to come into the spotlight as a result of the trial so that he can give testimony

00:42:33.680 interestingly enough he's on the defense's side he's saying that listen my wife wasn't in her

00:42:40.800 right mind she went crazy and she snapped and she did this awful thing that's why we're not married

00:42:45.040 anymore that's why i've got remarried it's an interesting aspect to it actually because

00:42:49.860 you wouldn't expect him to be doing that unless he believed there was some truth to it he's the

00:42:57.240 guy who suffered more than anybody else in this clearly uh but here's what i'm talking about with

00:43:03.180 the fundamentally unhelpful takes uh from uh online masculinity guru matt walsh don't look

00:43:10.380 for pictures of him without his beard might change the way you feel about him a lot of people aren't

00:43:15.120 going to want to hear this but much of the depression in scare quotes that parents and

00:43:18.820 Not just moms suffer after childbirth is due not so much to hormones,

00:43:22.440 but the fact that children, especially babies, are demanding and difficult

00:43:24.980 and requires to subordinate our own needs and desires for their stake.

00:43:29.460 The more selfish you are, the more of an adjustment it's going to be.

00:43:32.820 So he's basically just saying the only reason that people get depressed

00:43:35.860 after they have children is because they are selfish.

00:43:38.440 Great job.

00:43:39.660 What a horrible thing to say.

00:43:41.360 Great job. That's so helpful.

00:43:43.600 that's so helpful for people who we're living in a period where people are already struggling to

00:43:50.680 make ends meet and already struggling to make the decision should i have children if it's going to

00:43:55.520 fundamentally impoverish me and make it so you know there's all of these other things that come

00:44:01.600 with being a parent which is like as a couple you can't really be a couple anymore not for not

00:44:07.180 unless you have a lot of help from parents and other people around you and babysitters and

00:44:11.880 whatnot. All of a sudden, whatever closeness that you may have as a couple can go away for a long

00:44:18.020 time. You might find if the child likes sleeping in bed with you and you can't get them to sleep

00:44:22.260 otherwise, you as the husband might have to sleep on the sofa for a little bit. And there's a

00:44:26.980 distance that grows with that. Sex, for a long time, potentially, out the window, depending on

00:44:33.240 your personal circumstances. Sleep, don't even think about it. Don't even think about it. There

00:44:39.260 are all these other factors going alongside it that aren't anything to do with selfishness they're

00:44:44.860 just about basic like human needs when you're in a loving relationship with somebody and then you

00:44:50.860 also add on to the actual hormonal effects as well because guess what even as a man you don't get

00:44:56.960 enough sleep your testosterone drops not only can your testosterone drop it can plummet and it can

00:45:02.560 lead to a major level of depression for a lot of men of course there's a response sort of a dimension

00:45:07.820 of responsibility here for many of these

00:45:09.760 political commentators who are encouraging

00:45:11.560 people to have large

00:45:13.640 families, as Matt Walsh has

00:45:15.440 on numerous occasions, you know, go out

00:45:17.720 and have children is the purpose of

00:45:19.640 living, which I agree with. I'm sure it's great to have

00:45:21.640 six children when you have lots of millions

00:45:23.580 to support. Exactly. But you've

00:45:25.680 also got to be realistic about the realities

00:45:27.500 so you warn people about it. It's not to discourage

00:45:29.740 people. I think that, you know, having

00:45:31.760 children and having a family is the

00:45:33.720 most meaningful thing you can do in life.

00:45:35.880 But at the same time

00:45:37.760 be realistic about the difficulties of it so you prepare people so they don't feel isolated and and

00:45:43.760 you know don't feel helpless in their situation that actually you know you're gonna feel bad um at

00:45:49.840 first um because it's a difficult thing to do and that's normal and and sometimes that's all people

00:45:55.280 need to know to be able to bear that burden and carry on with it and do a good job well and all

00:45:59.840 of that to say it's still worth it it's still absolutely worth it but just burying your head

00:46:05.040 in the sand and going oh it's it's not real i'm here in my uh performative lumberjack outfit with

00:46:10.800 my performative man beard because i'm a big man i never had to worry about anything like this it

00:46:15.280 just it's not helpful if you're rich enough to hire help then you know you're not really

00:46:20.320 but on living a normal person's life on the other end of the spectrum is uh the feminist take

00:46:28.960 on all of this and as much as i'm being critical of matt walsh

00:46:32.880 he's not at least trying to downplay the severity of murdering children

00:46:37.920 or trying to put the responsibility of it onto anyone else unlike the feminists supporting

00:46:45.040 lindsey clancy by giving her over seven hundred thousand dollars in donations and posting about

00:46:53.440 how actually if you read between the lines and you watch the footage of the trial and look at

00:47:00.960 look at Patrick Clancy and his demeanour during a trial where his ex-wife is on the case for having

00:47:08.220 murdered his three children, that he seems to be in a somewhat dark mood. Therefore, clearly,

00:47:16.300 according to these retards online, he's the one who killed them, despite all evidence to the

00:47:24.560 contrary, and she's innocent

00:47:26.540 and being stitched up by a fundamentally

00:47:28.640 anti-feminist,

00:47:30.360 anti-woman system.

00:47:32.480 Do you know what? I think that if there

00:47:34.500 were a meteorite hurtling towards

00:47:36.660 Earth, and we knew for a certainty

00:47:38.580 that all life on Earth would be exterminated,

00:47:41.380 knowing that these people will

00:47:42.580 be wiped out too would give me peace

00:47:44.520 in my final moments.

00:47:46.580 Yes.

00:47:48.300 So inexcusably

00:47:50.340 awful. Look at this.

00:47:53.560 Leos don't

00:47:54.480 kill gemini's do leos don't kill their cubs nope not buying it if he's a gemini and she's a leo

00:48:02.600 it was toxic between them he did it that's all i need to do to know oh he's a gemini

00:48:08.920 just reinforces that i think he did it

00:48:11.880 which burnings did nothing wrong i mean yeah that's the that's i know i just noticed the

00:48:19.520 caption here which burnings uh fixes this uh you've got to accept as well as for all of my

00:48:24.600 criticisms of other people there is a significant portion of women within the modern social

00:48:30.840 environment who are just going to uh be anti-social and defend women no matter what awful things they

00:48:37.240 did she killed her kids right there's no defending that what what the trial is essentially doing is

00:48:43.640 arguing the details of how culpable she is and what should happen to her after she has murdered

00:48:48.400 her children but these women because they see a woman in trouble they just go like what bullshit

00:48:54.480 can i pull out of my ass to defend her they're probably the this kind of woman is probably

00:49:00.160 actually just happy that she killed her kids because they see it as an expression of feminine

00:49:04.600 agency i genuinely think you're right and and it's amazing that the mental well-being of these people

00:49:13.480 is is such and they're in such numbers that they can create their own little communities of people

00:49:18.140 where they all have such a poor

00:49:20.040 locus of control that they think

00:49:21.980 their agency is determined by the stars

00:49:24.000 rather than their own brain

00:49:25.080 yeah I mean

00:49:26.580 it is quite remarkable

00:49:29.740 look at this, this is a face that I

00:49:31.960 trust with childminding

00:49:33.280 that's a sound

00:49:35.900 mind behind those eyes

00:49:37.960 yeah this is a woman who I would trust

00:49:39.900 on matters of the well-being of children

00:49:42.080 I'm sorry but

00:49:43.980 leave some oxygen in the room, so this person

00:49:45.880 apparently is upset that Patrick

00:49:47.480 clancy breathed too loud while he was on the stand because you know there's no such thing as being

00:49:52.580 emotional over discussing how your three children were murdered he took up too much oxygens she

00:49:58.960 seems uh oh fellas we're cooked he's annoyed because it's the first time anyone has questioned

00:50:04.640 him are you crazy as if the world is hospitable to men like these these people these people are

00:50:14.520 kind of just happy that a man's children were murdered to take his own children away from him

00:50:19.540 and and just want to defend that it happened bitter nasty people that like to see suffering

00:50:24.100 in others because they it helps make them feel that they're not so alone in their own suffering

00:50:29.240 which most of which is you know self-inflicted because they're insane she's about to be jailed

00:50:34.600 for life for something her husband did evidence i made it up women are never guilty of things it's

00:50:41.440 not possible look at this 40,000 likes how many did that one get 235,000 likes

00:50:47.440 almost new theory he killed the kids his voice his was the voice she heard

00:50:52.240 because she spoke about the voices that she was hearing and no one ever hears

00:50:55.780 voices when they're on anti-psychotic medication never but why if he killed the

00:51:00.340 kids would he even have to plant subliminal messages in her mind then

00:51:03.400 it does sorry I forgot I'm not using woman logic right here sorry feminist

00:51:08.060 logic he threw her out of the window evidence i made it up she woke up and was told what she did

00:51:13.900 you know as as determined by forensic investigators women think of women are so gullible that they

00:51:20.960 can have all that happen and just be told it happened and be like okay i'm gonna uncritically

00:51:25.020 believe that yeah you'll never make me hate lindsey clancy again you can have certain sympathies

00:51:33.620 for the situation that she was in mainly because it's reflective of the difficulties that all women

00:51:38.680 face when they become mothers but like come on she murdered children she deserves punishment for it

00:51:45.300 for god's sake i want to become a lawyer to defend women like lindsey clinton there you go like 20

00:51:50.720 000 likes on somebody who's like i like this is the kind of bleeding heart liberal sort of thing

00:51:55.980 where it's like i need i need murderers on the streets i need them on the streets because it

00:52:02.100 makes me feel so terrible when they're in prison and then shu who uh is one of the good women one

00:52:08.820 of the few i'll make an exception for you shu pointing out how the 700 grand plus was raised

00:52:15.780 for the woman uh and all of the people donating it were hundreds of thousands of women in tiktok

00:52:22.360 true crime psychosis where they believed the husband did it because he looked mean and you

00:52:26.920 can go on and you can see all of the screenshots where it's like may god's truth and love be with

00:52:31.920 you don't give up it's all women it's all just like let's let's take a uh we're behind you may

00:52:39.340 god we hurt with you we hope for you and we stand with you much love and support there's an army of

00:52:45.120 mums seeing with you a dedicated mother who fought relentlessly blah blah blah like why should she

00:52:53.160 be given money for this she killed her children some might find this a little bit harsh but if i

00:52:59.280 were in the u.s government what was that free lindsay there was a hashtag free lindsay if i

00:53:04.640 were in the u.s government i would find out the names and addresses of every single one of the

00:53:09.000 women that donated to this and take their children away because they're clearly not fit to be mothers

00:53:13.600 if they're sympathizing with a woman who murdered her children yeah i mean again i can have

00:53:21.920 a certain level of broad abstract sympathy for this but she needs to be put away she needs to

00:53:28.640 be punished she killed her own children she certainly doesn't need to get money for it and

00:53:34.160 sympathy uh from this kind of sympathy uh from all of these people uh but yeah that's just i i just

00:53:41.040 think most of the time uh online oh yeah here it is like look at this this is the biggest reason i

00:53:47.240 don't believe him what because he looks upset a man who's had his children murdered

00:53:53.180 is upset and and doesn't look like he slept well it's patrick clancy versus the women of america

00:54:00.180 at this point lol 80 000 likes these people again are just angry at a man if if i was the guy in

00:54:07.980 this profile picture i'd be worried right now do not have do not have children with emily do not

00:54:15.600 have children not worth this woman uh she she will do bad things so yeah like uh i can be annoyed

00:54:23.740 at the state of internet discourse with all of this sort of stuff i can be annoyed that people

00:54:28.040 are not taking the subject as seriously as they should uh but the feminist uh online brained woman

00:54:35.640 response to this has been absolutely abhorrent and all of these people need to be uh completely

00:54:42.540 condemned anyway i'll go through the rumble rants i'm sure that trying to be somewhat nuanced on a

00:54:48.680 subject like that is going to have won me lots of fans sigil stone postpartum is reported by

00:54:54.560 adoptive mothers are almost the same rate as birthing mothers almost like ppr isn't real

00:54:58.720 and since his code word for mother killed her baby and while since yeah that's probably true

00:55:03.940 uh postpartum i mean it it is real i've seen it myself um i think that again it's just not

00:55:11.800 serious to discuss things in such a way

00:55:13.760 but SIDS, yeah

00:55:15.260 especially when you start to look at the demographic

00:55:17.800 breakdowns of which children are most

00:55:19.780 likely to die SIDS related deaths

00:55:21.740 clearly it's women

00:55:23.940 who can't take being mothers

00:55:25.460 smothering them and then doctors

00:55:27.920 going, ah I guess we could

00:55:29.920 never realise, we could never know

00:55:31.520 I guess it just happened

00:55:33.400 Sigil Stone, the goal of life

00:55:35.400 as a man is to find a good woman and have

00:55:37.800 kids with her and spend 18 years

00:55:39.840 watching her to make sure she can't haul off

00:55:41.960 and murder your children for a social media pity party

00:55:44.100 again, I don't think this is helpful

00:55:45.960 clearly she didn't murder

00:55:48.040 her children so that she

00:55:49.960 could get 700 grand from

00:55:51.720 retards on the internet

00:55:53.080 but again, she still should be punished for what

00:55:55.980 she did. Zeno King

00:55:57.720 been listening to the trial through my

00:55:59.900 mother sending clips, she should be convicted

00:56:01.640 agreed, but every single medical professional was a girl

00:56:03.960 boss, acting arrogant until the defense

00:56:06.020 asked simple questions

00:56:07.180 not really surprising. I think all of those

00:56:09.560 people should hold some level of culpability

00:56:11.500 as well. Random

00:56:13.520 name. Don't be so hard on her, lads. She's a vegetarious

00:56:15.820 and therefore can't be expected to control

00:56:17.480 herself. I myself am a vegetarious and can

00:56:19.580 barely contain myself from causing mayhem.

00:56:22.280 We know. We read

00:56:23.740 your super chats every day. Veritas.

00:56:26.220 Lindsay Clancy didn't take all of the

00:56:27.700 medications. Evidence was presented that she only took a

00:56:29.620 small amount of some, and for others, none at all. I recommend

00:56:31.760 you check out Psycho Babble on

00:56:33.520 YouTube about it. It was mentioned in the

00:56:35.620 articles that i was looking at that the medications that she was given uh she was taking them all

00:56:40.940 basically the prescription level but again cocktail of medications uh is not always great even if you

00:56:47.300 are only taking them at prescription level and even then prescription level of a lot of these

00:56:51.240 medications they're not good for you in the first place and don't help and also an elephant in the

00:56:55.580 room is that a lot of people with serious mental health conditions can't be trusted to take their

00:56:59.620 medication and a lot of a lot of people um who have gone on to commit crimes did so because they

00:57:06.160 didn't take their medication they didn't because they're crazy yeah that's why i say that she

00:57:10.240 should have really like if the people around her if if america was still in a situation where like

00:57:15.460 the asylums were open she should have been taken away from her children as soon as everybody

00:57:21.060 realized holy shit she's a danger to them and then kept there until she was in a safer place

00:57:29.160 to be around her children if that ever happened because again in a situation like that who knows

00:57:34.860 base tape candace brained retards put them in the box agree random name i said this to beau last

00:57:40.260 week but i've always uh what i've come to realize is that evil people always act as though they have

00:57:43.960 no agency life just happens to them and those they hurt and the system actively enables it

00:57:48.200 and again as chairman of the restore youth josh will take the libtards kids and give them to a

00:57:53.360 firm and proper education cleaning the streets will never be so easy sigil stone she didn't do

00:57:58.800 it for money but she did it for attention and sympathy check out her neonatal nursing career

00:58:02.720 she's likely another cluster b psycho harming patients for girls i don't see any evidence to

00:58:06.900 say that and the fact that she stabbed herself in the neck and tried to jump out of a window

00:58:10.480 sounds like she was literally just trying to do a murder suicide you know um it's it's it's

00:58:17.240 considered it's it's like um mirror image of somebody like chris benoit you know the wrestler

00:58:22.960 who killed his own kids and then uh killed himself um i can acknowledge that chris benoit

00:58:29.000 was suffering from decades of head injuries and head trauma lots and lots of compounding

00:58:35.740 concussions making it so that he was not in his right mind and that he was not in his right mind

00:58:41.440 when he killed his children killed his wife and then killed himself uh he still deserves to burn

00:58:47.160 in hell for having done all of that like whether or not he was in the right mind to ascribe proper

00:58:55.460 agency to it or not he still did it i mean i i'm on board with punishing you know animals for

00:59:02.180 attacking people right you know we kill pit bulls that attack people and they don't have moral

00:59:06.760 agency so it doesn't make sense to to hold that as the gold standard yeah exactly evil is evil

00:59:12.620 evil should be punished it's it's as simple as that but again being really stupid and simple

00:59:19.760 minded about the discourse surrounding it isn't going to help people in the future who are going

00:59:24.280 through potentially similar troubles so that's my primary issue with it and on to another fun

00:59:30.920 segment about how pakistan is uh what what i would argue one of the greatest exporters of rapists

00:59:39.920 that the UK has ever encountered and I say that when we count legal immigration in seeing as that

00:59:46.560 I think the vast majority of Pakistanis in Britain are here as a result of legal migration going back

00:59:53.900 even to the 1950s and yet still they could not help themselves but to form criminal gangs who

01:00:00.300 attempt and often succeed in abusing young girls across the country and you would expect if you

01:00:09.020 are a self-respecting moral nation that you would learn about that and say oh my god we hold some

01:00:16.180 responsibility for this these are our people committing these heinous crimes we need to do

01:00:21.460 something about it in the same way that say for instance the british state has taken fully on

01:00:26.880 board the idea of decolonization that we deserve to be punished in a way for having gone out and

01:00:32.520 colonized the rest of the world and we didn't even really do that much wrong when we did that in fact

01:00:36.240 we brought a lot of good to the rest of the world we certainly didn't go exporting our rapists

01:00:40.860 pakistan though sees it a very different way and i'll get into that in a moment first

01:00:46.380 by islander it's an excellent new issue still available islander 6 14.99 on the website get

01:00:52.940 it while stocks still last and you'll be able to read very interesting articles talking about

01:00:57.260 things like michael hudson's interview with rory about the debt economy and how it serves to

01:01:04.280 enslave all of us realistically and you've also got excellent articles from

01:01:09.460 will tanner talking about irania in south africa and what that represents for the future

01:01:14.480 of sovereign communities all right moving on so this was all like i was i was looking back at this

01:01:21.640 clip this insane clip of a conservative sorry former conservative mp edwina curry saying that

01:01:33.840 migrants need brothels in towns and villages

01:01:36.020 like Piddington where they're going to

01:01:37.580 Burnham's government is going to be dropping 1,200

01:01:39.560 asylum seekers

01:01:42.120 let's just remind ourselves of this clip

01:01:44.240 the obvious thing that

01:01:45.760 1,200 young men

01:01:47.360 are going to need in the middle of a village like

01:01:50.060 little Piddington is a brothel

01:01:51.640 I don't think they're going to provide that

01:01:53.480 I have a feeling that's not going to be allowed

01:01:55.740 right

01:01:57.000 right

01:01:58.600 even if she was joking

01:02:01.000 you know she said it in a sort of tongue-in-cheek way it's it's not the kind of thing that uh we

01:02:06.900 should be having you know laughs about and joking about because you know the number of illegals and

01:02:13.420 legals that have been in this country and have sexually assaulted for the sake of youtube um

01:02:19.220 women and young girls is in the hundreds of thousands and it's one of the worst tragedies

01:02:25.720 that's ever happened in this country and yeah you shouldn't be saying this sort of thing ever

01:02:30.940 Well, it's basically an acknowledgement by a part of the establishment that, yeah, these people are wrong-uns, but we're going to put them in your town anyway.

01:02:39.820 And thinking about it from a managerial point of view, where everything is just a spreadsheet of problems, and you need to come up with the most efficient solution to the problem,

01:02:49.020 then, yeah, I could see how a managerial type in Westminster or Whitehall somewhere might go, actually, it would be most cost-effective and least trouble to set up brothels in these areas.

01:03:00.940 which as i've pointed out it's basically what occupation forces do when they station their

01:03:07.600 troops like the french did with the colonial troops from africa uh in the rhineland in 1918

01:03:12.900 through 1920 and 21 they set up brothels in these small german towns that had never had anything of

01:03:19.960 the sort and completely just like completely demoralized and so excuse me sullied these areas

01:03:27.260 people were informing that Americans did the same thing

01:03:31.660 when they were occupying Japan after the end of the second world war

01:03:34.360 well we've got a load of young men here, they've got certain needs

01:03:37.580 we'll set up a load of brothels

01:03:39.120 and what often happens at the time when you're under these occupation forces

01:03:42.460 is that your taxpayer money has to go towards it

01:03:45.240 so you are funding the sex fund of these people who are occupying you

01:03:51.800 oftentimes with your own women

01:03:54.120 because occupation isn't fun there's not a lot of money to be made from it young girls are often

01:03:59.280 very vulnerable in such situations and they end up getting pimped out and edwina curry is making

01:04:04.100 a joke about that almost like you know we're some occupied country who's occupying us that's a great

01:04:10.000 question if this is the behavior of an occupying force then who is occupying britain that we would

01:04:14.340 need to do such a thing in the first place didn't get a great response uh publicly uh telegraph edwina

01:04:20.680 mccurry's idea for a migrant brothel is grotesque that's to say the least um the times went with

01:04:27.640 this tongue-in-cheek headline saying does objecting to brothels for migrants make us terribly middle

01:04:32.200 class emphasizing the whole um class element of it which is relevant because of andy burnham

01:04:38.460 and andy burnham saying that the reason they need to disperse these people operation scatter style

01:04:45.740 again it's another continuing government policy this isn't anything that burnham came up with

01:04:50.200 on his own this seems to be just the the next step of operation scatter he's saying oh well

01:04:56.040 it's not fair that only poor people get to get to enjoy the benefits of enrichment and diversity we

01:05:01.780 need to give them to the middle class areas as well uh dems are going to be quaking in their

01:05:06.040 expensive boots aren't they yeah but uh people are people wondering whether that particular article

01:05:11.520 was tongue-in-cheek or not it's behind the paywall obviously so i go oh it wait it was behind the

01:05:18.000 paywall samson what have you done that's amazing either way magic samson used his producer magic

01:05:24.900 uh to um legitimately pay for access to this times article i'm sure either way it was talking

01:05:33.300 about how uh the european line is we must help them not just help them whatever they need we

01:05:38.320 must give it to them food clothing tents laptops mobile phones with six months of data and said

01:05:42.340 andy burnham we must also give them our nicest streets our nicest parks and it mustn't be the

01:05:46.740 poorest communities who take them and after Piddington added a wiener curry there were other

01:05:50.860 needs too you can't have young horny young men hanging around in idleness in Oxfordshire the

01:05:56.360 obvious thing that 1,200 young men are going to need in a village like little Piddington as a

01:06:00.140 brothel yes we must now also give them our women our bodies actually I thought the British crossed

01:06:05.500 that particular rubicon some time ago but she says it's true in Afghanistan an unspeakable

01:06:12.900 hellhole women live in the medieval horror of gender-based lockdown and then she says oh you

01:06:16.900 know i'd be happy to take them i wouldn't want to take anyone for an afghanistan man or woman

01:06:20.380 but it comes across that yes this article uh was not in all seriousness she was protesting it so

01:06:26.620 the times also coming out against it spiked no edwina curry illegal migrants don't need brothels

01:06:33.200 and this reminded me of a few of edwina curry's previous exploits that she's famous for that being

01:06:38.400 that she uh in 1988 as a junior health minister uh destroyed egg sales across the country by saying

01:06:45.200 that most of them were riddled with salmonella with no evidence whatsoever so clearly a very

01:06:49.680 sensible woman and she appointed jimmy savile expressing her full confidence in him to run a

01:06:55.040 task force in charge of broadmoor psychiatric hospital where he went on to rape female patients

01:06:59.680 so this might just be a fun fun pastime of her hers she's causing chaos wherever she goes yes

01:07:05.600 uh and now she says that she's uh wanting uh brothels in areas where there are lots of these

01:07:11.000 migrants uh which the article goes on to point out from julie birchall um is a pull factor we

01:07:17.480 have enough pull factors in this country and then if we're going to be giving them

01:07:20.980 like not only access to young girls like they already have with almost complicit um acknowledgement

01:07:28.020 by the authorities uh but then also like taxpayer funded brothels for them as well that's an even

01:07:34.020 I hadn't even considered that, yeah, that's an even more of a pull factor.

01:07:38.260 They get to go to four-star hotels, five-star hotels, brothels.

01:07:42.600 They get to go on trips out.

01:07:44.080 They get given a card, mobile phones, clothes.

01:07:47.020 It's more than you actually get being British in the state.

01:07:50.880 You know, why even bother existing here?

01:07:53.360 Why not just break back in again?

01:07:54.940 I mean, is it time to reopen the incel discussion on state-mandated girlfriends?

01:08:00.080 If the British taxpayer is going to be paying for migrants to get sex, why not natives as well?

01:08:05.740 I mean, what a ridiculous, ridiculous idea, ridiculous suggestion, but hey, we live in stupid, ridiculous times.

01:08:12.560 The Telegraph also saying, you know, middle classes didn't work so hard to see their areas ruined by illegal migrants.

01:08:19.580 It's not just the middle classes. Nobody in this country ever wanted their neighbourhoods, working class, middle class, upper class, or otherwise,

01:08:25.920 wanted to see their neighborhoods destroyed by illegal migrants so we should send them all back

01:08:30.200 it's also a little bit insulting you know i am middle class but you know it's not that the

01:08:35.120 working classes don't work hard to earn their money yeah but it's the telegraph isn't it they've

01:08:41.260 she has walked it back though now as pointed out in this article by the spectator she said

01:08:46.540 that she was clarifying she wanted it to be tongue-in-cheek and she said i'm making a point

01:08:51.140 which is that if we keep holding people here in idleness for a very long period of time then we're

01:08:54.700 going to have problems wherever we put them that is not the answer the answer is to make sure people

01:08:59.240 don't arrive in the first place great point edwina that is a great point but they're here now

01:09:05.500 they're here now so what do we do with them when they're here now well i would suggest we deport

01:09:14.180 them but that's where the next part of this segment comes along in the main subject of this

01:09:17.680 which is what happens when the countries that we want to send them back to just say no

01:09:23.120 what power do we have to express to them that no actually you are going to have to take them back

01:09:31.160 because if they won't take them back then we face an even bigger problem which is we're stuck with

01:09:37.900 them so there was a recent instance i think i got um i think i talked about on gb news where

01:09:43.280 the leader of a grooming gang um was going to be deported to pakistan and pakistan refused

01:09:50.960 they argued that well he's been in britain for 50 years this is the article this is the subject

01:09:56.300 i'm going to be talking about but yeah carry on but um i made the point that um he in the time

01:10:03.260 that he served in prison for being the leader of a grooming gang obviously too short obviously

01:10:07.420 death penalties the real answer for these people however he only served about i don't know 14 20

01:10:13.100 years something like that for being the leader of the grooming gang but even so the uk taxpayer

01:10:17.800 are paid the best part of a million pounds to house this man

01:10:21.120 that has absolutely no right to our money, resources

01:10:24.020 or anything in this country, or his life in my opinion

01:10:27.240 but even so we can't deport him back to his native land of Pakistan

01:10:31.640 to which I say we, well, I'll let you continue

01:10:36.060 I'll say a way in which we can negotiate with them later

01:10:39.340 This is where the problem of international foreign policy comes in

01:10:45.180 and where you see how it begins to really affect domestic policy as well because the reason that

01:10:53.200 we have to have them stay in our countries and abuse our girls is because it wouldn't be good

01:10:58.820 internationally at least by the calculations of our current elites to send them back because it

01:11:04.940 might damage relations and information exchange about pakistan i'm sorry but um all their main

01:11:11.440 export is rapist and after that their main i think 80 of what they send to us is textiles so like

01:11:17.040 cloth and and clothing which we can source from many other countries because a lot of southeast

01:11:22.820 asia and the like manufacture them so why don't we just say okay well we'll have trade sanctions

01:11:27.820 eight percent of their exports are to the uk and i think 0.0 percent um zero three percent

01:11:34.560 of both our imports and exports are from pakistan so it will hardly hurt us and we can source that

01:11:39.960 trade elsewhere but about 10 of their economy will be wiped out um by us just doing that one

01:11:46.280 thing and i think that they're more happy to have that 10 than they are to have their rapist back

01:11:51.760 who in their own country they execute anyway in the same crime well even if it weren't they were

01:11:57.040 sending rapists to us if it was just like normal people what have the pakistani community of britain

01:12:03.440 contributed to the national community

01:12:06.140 anyway

01:12:06.680 The expansion of Islam

01:12:09.300 They're the most likely in London

01:12:11.780 to live in poverty, so it's certainly

01:12:14.040 not economic benefits

01:12:15.720 Cousin marriages? Yeah, a third of all

01:12:18.020 birth defects in the NHS

01:12:19.580 from Pakistanis despite being a small

01:12:22.020 portion of the

01:12:24.080 population

01:12:24.720 Yeah, there's no reason for them

01:12:28.020 to be here. Even if it were

01:12:30.080 that they were also abusing people

01:12:31.780 in the country there's no real benefit that we get from taking in their people in the first place

01:12:36.940 without all of the other consequences that they we get from them being here but they point out here

01:12:42.400 in this article from unheard and this is back from 2024 the daily mail had reported that carrie

01:12:48.420 abdul ralph and adil khan convicted ringleaders of the rochdale grooming gang were at the time

01:12:54.260 still living in their home uh at their homes in the uk nine years after their deportation was

01:13:00.460 ordered one of khan's victims whom he impregnated at 13 recently came face to face with him in an

01:13:07.000 asda unaware he had been released from prison after serving around half of his eight-year

01:13:11.380 sentence now this was quite a notorious story at the time and the reason for that was because just

01:13:16.860 like pakistan when we said take them back said no how could they say no well let's find out what

01:13:25.960 power does the uk have to force pakistan to take them well on paper we should have a lot of power

01:13:31.840 especially given as pointed out in this article that we are supposedly the number two soft power

01:13:36.920 in the entire world which should give us a lot of sway it appears at first glance that we should be

01:13:42.800 able to uh force them because they are one of the top bilateral recipients of uk aid receiving over

01:13:49.440 one billion pounds since 2009 at the time of writing this travesty that we're giving them

01:13:53.940 any money whatsoever yep we should demand be demanding reparations for you know to be giving

01:13:59.060 to the families of their victims not giving them money yes pakistan is also receiving nearly 300

01:14:04.820 million dollars in remittances from the uk uh in 2023 so i would imagine it's a similar amount

01:14:11.460 every year so it sounds like this is a rather asymmetrical relationship that we have with

01:14:16.740 pakistan we could crush pakistan and it wouldn't the only thing that would change would be our

01:14:22.440 quality of life would get better in britain how many of our people are desperate to go over to

01:14:28.580 pakistan and create english ethnic enclaves in pakistan what is the english community in pakistan

01:14:36.200 how does that look like what benefits do they get from living in pakistan the last countries on earth

01:14:41.620 i'd want to go to and they say foreign aid is often cited as essential to the uk's much vaunted

01:14:47.380 soft power but pakistan's refusal raises questions if this amount of aid cannot convince pakistan

01:14:53.420 who are a formal ally to allow us to deport dual nationals how much is use his soft power in the

01:14:58.740 national interest and one of the excuses that they give is well they tore up their pakistani

01:15:04.420 passports they renounced their citizenship pakistan refuses and this is the same people

01:15:10.680 uh adil khan and abdul ralph pakistan refused to take back the ring leaders of the rochdale

01:15:16.940 grooming gang scandal after they renounced their citizenship which i think we can all happily

01:15:21.280 acknowledge is legalistic bullshit so um there's an interesting thing that most of the world

01:15:27.900 outside of the new world has just sanguineous uh citizenship meaning that uh sanguineous meaning

01:15:34.360 blood yes and so if you have the blood you are you know a citizen of that country whereas pakistan

01:15:41.800 is one of the few unique cases that has just solis citizenship where i wonder if this might

01:15:47.680 have any reason well it's probably because of the partition isn't it um well india doesn't have it

01:15:52.680 i know but i mean when they partitioned they were probably like taking people in

01:15:57.580 giving them citizenship i'm not sure of the history of it but it does mean

01:16:01.560 that they do actually have legal grounds to dismiss it however much of a nonsense it isn't

01:16:07.740 however much we should be saying listen you take an exception you take your criminals back

01:16:11.600 because you owe us for all the stuff we do for you yeah that that's the bare minimum

01:16:16.000 overplaying their hand they're a formal ally they take a lot of aid from us they get a lot of

01:16:23.380 remittances from us and they use obvious bs legalisms to try and get around taking responsibility

01:16:32.360 for the fact that one of their great one of their largest exports to this country have been rapists

01:16:37.920 and they don't want to take them back and they don't want to take any sort of responsibility

01:16:42.560 for it why because on the international negotiating stage they want to use this kind of thing as a

01:16:49.520 bargaining chip they don't want to take these guys back because they want to keep them in their

01:16:55.460 back pocket so that at a future negotiating stage well you know if you give us what we want maybe

01:17:01.480 that one billion pounds turns into one and a half billion pounds maybe we'll start to consider

01:17:06.560 taking back people like this because i can only assume the people in charge of pakistan in this

01:17:12.800 way are deeply tribalistic and immoral people so ministers are engaged in high level talks with

01:17:21.400 the pakistani government to persuade them to drop their block on the it was an actual block on the

01:17:25.800 deportation of these two sources indicated that progress was being made this was in 2025 i decided

01:17:31.860 to check up on what's going on with these two we don't actually know if ralph the one on the right

01:17:39.360 is still in the country but adil khan has fled the country before he could even be deported

01:17:44.420 so pakistan actually was successful in just putting this off until the problem went away for

01:17:51.260 them they're just hoping that they flee anyway to somewhere else so they're not their problem

01:17:55.660 yeah pakistani officials told the telegraph it would be extremely difficult to take back such

01:18:00.520 dangerous criminals and that there was no basis to accept them if they had renounced their

01:18:04.260 citizenship. Again, BS

01:18:06.240 legalisms. The

01:18:08.200 responsibility is on you because these are

01:18:10.420 your people.

01:18:12.260 Pakistan sources suggested restoring

01:18:14.080 direct flights to the UK by its national

01:18:16.040 airline PIA, which

01:18:17.780 have been suspended for safety reasons

01:18:20.140 and that could help, but UK

01:18:22.040 officials said that this had not been raised yet

01:18:24.060 in any talk. So see, there you go.

01:18:26.340 Well, you know, maybe

01:18:27.960 we'll take them back if

01:18:30.180 you give our national airline

01:18:31.980 access to your airports again.

01:18:34.260 there you go they are using it as a bargaining chip but at the same level if we decided one day

01:18:42.000 if the country had its head screwed back on and said actually we're just going to give capital

01:18:46.580 punishment to anybody like this who commits such heinous crimes native or foreign all of a sudden

01:18:51.880 i'm sure that pakistan would be banging on the international human rights drum as well

01:18:56.780 these people yeah they've renounced their citizenship they're not really pakistani anymore

01:19:01.540 But if we started to execute them, I'm sure at that point Pakistan would be going, see how they abuse our diaspora.

01:19:08.520 See how they abuse our people.

01:19:10.000 They're just using this as an excuse to execute foreigners because they're such an evil and xenophobic...

01:19:15.220 But the wonderful thing is that they execute their rapists, so it's part of Pakistani culture to give them that kind of justice.

01:19:22.440 It's only fitting in our multicultural society that we accept Pakistani justice for Pakistani criminals.

01:19:28.240 That means killing them.

01:19:29.580 Yes, it certainly does.

01:19:30.460 And this is still a problem going to now, Monday the 17th of August, just yesterday.

01:19:35.880 From the Telegraph, Pakistan threatens to stop taking back migrants over Rochdale rapist row.

01:19:41.380 Here's the bloke that you were talking about, Shabir Ahmed.

01:19:45.440 And I think it's time that we recognize that given the current state of globalization,

01:19:50.520 countries like Pakistan implicitly accept that their people, when moved en masse,

01:19:57.760 I think this is part of the Indian trade deal phenomenon as well, are used as a bioweapon that gives them a bargaining tool internationally.

01:20:08.260 It's a lot easier to get the people you don't like in your country to leave to go to another country that will maybe give them benefits and an easier way of life than it is to then get them to get sent back.

01:20:20.160 Because all of a sudden, when they're not in Pakistan's borders anymore, Pakistan raises its hands and goes, oh, it's not our problem.

01:20:25.260 it's not our problem and this is this is the kind of results that we get from the use of your own

01:20:31.780 people as a bioweapon pakistan saying that it could stop taking back illegal immigrants if

01:20:37.180 britain tries to force it to accept a grooming gang ringleader senior pakistan officials said

01:20:42.000 that they had provided britain with the gold standard of cooperation in helping it to return

01:20:47.080 nearly 1 500 rejected asylum seekers visa overstayers and immigration offenders to pakistan

01:20:53.760 in the last year that's the bare minimum a country should do to another sovereign nation is accept

01:21:00.240 the people that have broken into your country back again that are citizens of yours yeah but

01:21:05.660 they said that britain's insistence that pakistan should take back shabir ahmed following his

01:21:09.880 release for a 22 year jail sentence for 30 child rape offenses again a sensible country would have

01:21:16.620 just strung him up frankly but again i'm sure that's too good for him i'm sure pakistan would

01:21:21.540 have had a problem see how they abuse us see how they just want to indiscriminately bigotedly just

01:21:26.640 kill our people for raping our children um was jeopardizing these agreements as well as wider

01:21:34.460 collaboration on intelligence security and organized crime i'm sure pakistan does such

01:21:39.700 good job helping us on the organized crime front i'm sure they're net contributors it's understood

01:21:45.340 that pakistani officials are particularly aggrieved at suggestions by government sources

01:21:48.980 that the UK is prepared to impose sanctions including visa bans on Pakistanis seeking to

01:21:53.560 come to the UK and withholding foreign aid if Pakistan continues to refuse to take Ahmed back.

01:21:58.420 It comes as Andy Burnham is seeking to increase the deportation of foreign offenders so that he

01:22:02.460 can free up spaces in prisons. Pakistan however is refusing to take him back saying that he

01:22:08.160 renounced his Pakistani citizenship and has spent virtually his entire life in the UK and is therefore

01:22:14.460 our responsibility. Never in our country's long history has a country deserved the stick and not

01:22:21.260 the carrot more than Pakistan here. Like, the amount of nonsense we've had to put up, to put

01:22:26.840 it lightly, from the Pakistani diaspora here and Pakistan more generally, and we give them so much

01:22:34.660 in return, which they don't deserve, we should take all of the aid away. We should stop trading

01:22:40.120 with them we should say all of you need to leave um and if you don't accept it we have a military

01:22:46.480 that's better than yours deal with it there's nothing you can do about it i'm afraid oh but

01:22:50.380 you've got to consider josh that between 2025 to 2026 deportation of nationals of pakistani

01:22:56.840 nationals uh was up 24 from 1158 to 1437 that's not nearly enough no that's the bare minimum

01:23:05.680 that's not even the bare minimum that's just that's just not good enough given the number

01:23:09.180 of pakistanis that need to return um then that's a drop in the bucket a drop in the ocean in fact

01:23:16.260 and i would argue that if we aren't going to be a man enough country uh to begin capital punishment

01:23:22.560 for crimes of this nature uh then at the very least they should be out of our country and if

01:23:27.040 pakistan isn't going to accept them these people tend to be foreigners tend to be very fond of

01:23:31.280 dinghies give them a nice dinghy and drop them off in the middle of the atlantic ocean

01:23:35.060 and uh there you go international waters not our problem not pakistan's problem not our problem

01:23:40.660 a man can dream a man can dream all right we've got some video uh comments do we

01:23:50.060 i think you went in yeah you went into yesterday's ones oh we've got none for today

01:23:56.520 oh maybe we do have some for today roller coaster here oh my goodness uh josh what politics would

01:24:03.300 restore government enact to solve these problems considering the intelligence agencies in the

01:24:06.820 global homo governments are always anti-patriotic and will definitely try to stop us um i think that

01:24:14.360 the way in which this is handled is we use all of the leverage we have to basically force them

01:24:22.580 to take them back and of course um restore supports a referendum on the death penalty

01:24:27.340 and so that's also something that we can hold over them in negotiations

01:24:32.960 is that well you can get something out of this potentially

01:24:36.900 or at least not lose some benefits that we would take away from you

01:24:42.120 if you cooperate but if you don't we can just have this referendum

01:24:45.920 on the death penalty and just kill them and then you get nothing

01:24:48.580 and we'll just take it all away and punish you.

01:24:50.540 There is also the worry though that the internal intelligence agencies

01:24:54.660 our mi5 and mi6 will try and do something to stop it because of their collaborations with

01:25:00.820 foreign intelligence agencies as well yeah but i i do wonder at the value of pakistani

01:25:06.640 intelligence i mean it's an oxymoron just saying it isn't it well i mean i suppose that would be

01:25:11.220 have to be something that you figure out when you're in government uh but um let's watch these

01:25:16.080 video comments 30 000 is not enough what does it matter if we have to wait another week for a

01:25:24.660 Prison is the wrong solution. It's too lenient, it takes up resources in order to accommodate

01:25:33.620 them, and they still have a debt that they owe back to the communities that they betrayed.

01:25:37.660 If we also want to replace AI with something sustainable, I think I might have a solution.

01:25:41.540 Limey.

01:25:50.620 Servitorization. I don't even know what that is, but it sounds scary.

01:25:55.340 It's a Warhammer thing.

01:25:56.460 Of course it's a Warhammer thing.

01:25:58.460 Go on, next video.

01:26:00.460 For those only listening and not watching, they're getting some lovely views of old train

01:26:10.620 tracks going on the bridges and such a barrack boat tour

01:26:16.860 it's like dolphins yeah oh lovely

01:26:25.500 and a cat playing with some cows and then just some lovely fish

01:26:29.580 it's like koi pond every time i see this this guy's video comments they're

01:26:34.940 always very wholesome you know how to spend your time well

01:26:38.620 all right we'll go now we've watched those we'll go through the rest of the rumble rants and then

01:26:43.020 get a couple of the website comments off random name again our elites are outsourcing our food

01:26:49.940 and resources so that a true patriotic government can easily be embargoed by global homo governments

01:26:54.340 when we infringe on the invaders human rights by deporting them that is a worry random name

01:26:59.560 this crone's physiognomy set off my pattern noticing so i checked with her wikipedia page

01:27:03.500 yeah also she just looks like right i've just got to say she looks like uh where's she gone

01:27:08.800 there she goes she looks like a junji ito monster right uh she's got a weirdly long face for a woman

01:27:15.620 right i don't say i've noticed but i suppose i know what you mean yeah she looks kind of i'm

01:27:21.500 gonna take her up that's kind of creepy to be honest sigil stone so what happens when women

01:27:25.560 don't want to work at the brothels or if the whores don't want to service the migrants absolutely

01:27:29.240 the Weimar suggestion from Magnus Hirschfeld's sister there.

01:27:32.660 And base vape, simpler option, just castrate them,

01:27:34.900 melt down the balls to fill in the pot.

01:27:38.140 Blimey.

01:27:39.960 Amandine, I thought brothels were illegal.

01:27:43.500 I believe they are.

01:27:44.460 Yeah, I think they are as well.

01:27:46.060 Do you want to read through a couple of your website comments?

01:27:48.380 Sure.

01:27:50.980 Fane Scotty of Swindon,

01:27:53.160 the worst bit about vape shops being in historic buildings

01:27:55.820 is that they suddenly burn down,

01:27:57.360 not because they are foreigners running them,

01:27:59.240 them hating the building but because he doesn't care about it and the insurance fraud is appealing

01:28:05.060 to them that or they don't care about electrical fire safety depends who you ask case in point

01:28:10.760 Glasgow that building that survived the blitz going up in flames from the vape shop inside

01:28:14.860 very good point yes it is a shame Michael says even in the US the price of a good haircut has

01:28:22.180 jumped but it's no longer about barbershops is that you literally must go to a franchise shop

01:28:28.420 which costs spend over 30 dollars on my uh last flat top the haircut for any masculine man is that

01:28:35.000 an attack hey little listen mate floppy foppish haircuts are back okay we're taking it back 90s

01:28:43.000 style right now i mean you can't be english and and not have a hair cut like this also i think

01:28:51.620 mine costs about 34 pounds get mine cut so it's not cheap but then you know i go to an actual

01:28:58.460 english barber where you have a proper conversation actually spoke to my barber about um heavy metal

01:29:03.600 for about half an hour nice good man uh one more yeah you can go one more the journey of a thousand

01:29:12.120 miles begins with a single step when they call for more resources or frame the issue as being

01:29:17.500 too big to tackle i feel it's an excuse to avoid taking scalps if they're doing their utmost um

01:29:23.060 with what they have and cracking down on new gangs every week i'd be more inclined to believe they

01:29:28.180 wanted to solve the issue very well put yes then scotty of swindon once again social services fail

01:29:34.440 their role resulting in tragedy but hey let's give them yet another pay rise and bring in a gazillion

01:29:38.560 more migrants to staff these roles great idea he also says if my mom said i completely understand

01:29:43.760 lindsey clancy as a mother i was in a similar position oh god i'd be worried i would break

01:29:48.700 off all contact how psychopathic do you have to be to be a mother and sympathize with a mother

01:29:52.420 who murdered her own children evil again i can as as a father i can understand the difficulties

01:29:58.340 that come with being a new parent hell even with being a parent of a toddler right now there are

01:30:02.800 new difficulties that come in when you know all of a sudden there's a sleep regression or something

01:30:07.240 like that uh but to even consider doing something like that let alone follow through is heinous and

01:30:14.980 beyond all beyond all forgiveness uh michael trebelbus understand that in the u.s taking

01:30:20.240 children away from the mother is nearly impossible it sounds like she was also dock shopping finding

01:30:24.200 the drug doctor who would prescribe her uh the best drugs yeah that's definitely a factor in this

01:30:29.520 and uh sophie live this is literally offering up our woman as a sacrifice to multiculturalism

01:30:34.240 regarding the brothels yep michael drabelbus locking them up in a disused military bases

01:30:38.460 under armed guards sounds like a good idea again i just ask why should we have them in the country

01:30:42.340 in the first place annie moss prior to trump countries would not take their citizens back to

01:30:47.060 trump said fine no aid no trade no visas for anyone from your country who comes to the u.s

01:30:50.980 funny all the countries take back their citizens back now yeah i've got to admit for all my

01:30:54.760 criticisms of trump if that is the case that he has used a little little bit of hard power

01:31:00.480 to get them to take their people back that's a great thing and it should be a it should be an

01:31:06.000 example for the rest of us to take as well but with that we're out of time now so uh thank you

01:31:11.400 everybody for watching uh thank you josh for coming in what you do recently what can people

01:31:16.720 know about what you're doing where should they find you and what you're doing uh put me on the

01:31:21.320 spot here um i'm still on x i've got a youtube account which is just my name josh firm and i'm

01:31:26.780 also writing policy for restore so keep an eye out for restore's policies and chances are i've

01:31:32.920 at least read them hey there you go now if that's not i've got a i've got a policy team i don't work

01:31:38.420 on everything if that's not a vote of confidence i don't know what is thanks very much for joining

01:31:42.360 us today hopefully tomorrow will be a little bit of a sunnier podcast so we'll see you then take care

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - August 18, 2026

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