The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1488

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eaters for the 20th of August,

00:00:04.060 2026. I'm joined by Ferris and Anne Coulter. Hello. Hello. Hello. What are you doing in

00:00:09.100 England? How did you find yourself here? Well, I had to come on Lotus Eaters. Oh, okay. Well,

00:00:14.080 let's see, it's a small, small podcast, you know, just in the hinterlands of London, I suppose,

00:00:20.500 you know, it's just a little thing. Anyway, great to have you here. This is just a wonderful

00:00:25.000 surprise. We tried to make this happen a few months back, didn't we? Well, exactly a year

00:00:29.360 ago but i promised your guy i saw how far it was but i've always wanted to come to the cotswolds so

00:00:35.280 the next time i came to england i would come and do this and go see a town in the cotswolds

00:00:40.020 and by the way i'm doing no other podcast so i'm here only yours because i owed you well thank you

00:00:44.560 very much uh anyway so today we're going to be talking about the beatification of jason our day

00:00:48.780 you familiar with the jason oh it's awful i had tea with nace nathan kofas

00:00:54.440 you know what i actually i actually feel very bad for nathan i know because he did nothing wrong

00:01:01.620 at all no and he is getting it in the neck um which is totally unfair there are loads of things

00:01:07.480 to give him in the neck for but this is not one of them you know i'm joking nathan um

00:01:11.360 we're gonna then talk about how everyone's actually wrong about jd vance uh they're all

00:01:15.920 attacking him at the moment for completely the wrong reasons uh and then we're gonna finish on

00:01:20.300 kind of positive about trump because trump's actually done a fairly good job with immigration

00:01:24.440 in america um believe it or not and i appreciate that you uh something something of um a rebel

00:01:31.240 when it comes to uh maga at this point little constructive criticism never hurt well i agree

00:01:36.420 actually i think i agree but and we have been um constructively critical uh when trump's done

00:01:41.480 something we don't like such as war with iran being dragged there by israel um but when he's

00:01:46.740 done something we like we want to uh be uh congratulatory about it um anyway right let's

00:01:52.400 begin so you're probably familiar with the death of jason arday um he was a cambridge professor of

00:02:00.980 the sociology of education that's correct yeah and this this puts him in a remarkable position

00:02:07.080 because this is the most influential chair that he could hold in his discipline so he's at the

00:02:13.740 very top of this academic discipline and he obviously didn't deserve to be there this is the

00:02:19.340 kind of uh sort of fluff pieces he was getting prior to this blowing up wouldn't it be the most

00:02:25.200 ridiculous story ever told if the boy who couldn't read and write at 18 gets a phd before he's 30

00:02:31.320 that's cambridge professor of sociology of education jason our day and his story is the

00:02:36.580 most ridiculous ever told jason's story got off to a tough start he was diagnosed with autism

00:02:42.460 and global development delay, and was non-verbal.

00:02:45.280 Four or five hours of speech therapy a day from the age of three.

00:02:48.080 There is nothing to suggest that any of this is working.

00:02:51.160 At 11, go into this room, we go through the same kind of warm-up exercises

00:02:54.700 as we normally did.

00:02:55.780 The speech therapist said to me,

00:02:58.080 hello, Jason, as she always did, and I just responded, hello.

00:03:01.460 It's quite a strange thing to hear your own voice

00:03:03.920 for the first time when you're 11.

00:03:06.200 And once Jason started, he couldn't stop.

00:03:08.840 He made it all the way to becoming one of the youngest professors ever at Cambridge.

00:03:13.360 And it might not stop there.

00:03:15.540 You know, you're in a situation.

00:03:16.940 So you can see the kind of puff pieces he's getting.

00:03:19.420 Yes.

00:03:19.880 Perfect.

00:03:20.720 Was that BBC, by the way?

00:03:22.060 That wasn't BBC.

00:03:23.120 That was Linden Health.

00:03:24.700 But it was the same sort of the BBC.

00:03:26.780 They've all done it.

00:03:27.660 They were his PR agent.

00:03:29.700 100%.

00:03:30.140 They all were.

00:03:31.740 And because he's too perfect.

00:03:34.140 You know, the story is too perfect.

00:03:35.760 oh yeah look at this developmentally disabled black boy and oh hey he's actually a brilliant

00:03:41.180 genius and he just happens to be available for you to hire to make the the chair of the education

00:03:46.800 of sociology at cambridge university if this is a ridiculous story it's like yeah it is i agree

00:03:53.260 with you i couldn't help but wonder if they knew of course if they sort of and the thing is actually

00:04:01.980 I was watching Nathan Coughness on Benjamin Boyce's channel the other day,

00:04:05.780 and he was saying, he went into detail,

00:04:08.140 I wasn't going to go into it in this podcast,

00:04:09.620 but like we've covered it already,

00:04:11.040 but he went into detail how Cambridge was well aware

00:04:13.820 that he was a plagiarist, he was a fraud,

00:04:16.120 and he'd been telling many, many ridiculous lies,

00:04:19.140 and yet they decided, you know what, we're just going to ignore that.

00:04:21.580 And Nathan was like, well, what was the plan?

00:04:23.440 You know, were you going to just sit on this for the next 30 years

00:04:25.260 until he retired or something?

00:04:26.460 If I could say in defense of him,

00:04:28.960 He probably was the most qualified person in the sociology of education,

00:04:35.200 each of which on its own is a completely ridiculous subject.

00:04:40.480 You combine the two, I mean, they may just call it our DEI department.

00:04:46.260 Well, I mean, I think from the DEI perspective, he was definitely the most qualified.

00:04:51.920 Yeah, OK, we've got a couple of black people, but this guy was nonverbal until he was 11.

00:04:56.040 Well, there were 10,000 of them, apparently, I don't know,

00:04:59.060 thousands of them, outside on Trafalgar Square the other day.

00:05:02.560 We're going to talk about that in a second, actually.

00:05:04.120 Anyway, so we saw this clip from Professor Hilary Kremen,

00:05:09.040 the head of Faculty of Education at Cambridge.

00:05:11.260 We'll watch it again just to refresh our memory of how much they absolutely love Jason.

00:05:15.660 And now Jason is days away from achieving another ambition.

00:05:19.100 Hi, so good to see you.

00:05:22.000 Here's his new boss at Cambridge.

00:05:24.040 We do have a lot of work to do, but I feel really optimistic.

00:05:29.040 There will be those. I think this is a tokenistic appointment.

00:05:32.040 What are your thoughts on this?

00:05:33.040 The board of electors on your interview day were absolutely unanimous.

00:05:39.040 We are so lucky to have you.

00:05:42.040 You are the best in the world in terms of the research that you do.

00:05:48.040 They knew at the time. Yes.

00:05:51.040 But what I found really interesting about this, there's this kind of absolution in it, right?

00:05:55.980 Yes.

00:05:56.320 We are really lucky to have you.

00:05:58.180 When he goes over and he literally is approaching her like he's fucking Jesus or something.

00:06:03.660 You know, look at this.

00:06:05.660 He is bestowing upon her a kind of forgiveness and grace because she's a white privileged woman who has had everything handed to her from her own civilization.

00:06:17.820 And he is the outsider saying, no, it's okay.

00:06:20.380 I'm here now.

00:06:21.040 i'll take your hand i'll smile i give you grace i mean am i wrong you can't see it except in

00:06:28.740 religious terms it's exclusively religious the entirety of wokeness is fundamentally a parody

00:06:34.240 of catholicism absolutely um it's it is genuinely a kind of secular religion that's building itself

00:06:39.180 out of the modern atheistic mindset because i think and i we've spoken about this before but

00:06:44.840 I think it is natural for humans to want a kind of religious calling and for them what this is.

00:06:51.880 One way it's not like Catholicism is, I mean, I agree with your guys' interpretation,

00:06:58.080 but I look at that and I just see it, a white person treating a black person as a small child.

00:07:04.660 Did you like that cookie? Was it good?

00:07:08.020 I mean, that's how all liberals treat black people in America.

00:07:10.560 They act as if they're all retards and we're just going to pat them on the head and, oh, the best research I've ever seen.

00:07:18.180 Are you comfortable? Do you need another sweater?

00:07:22.800 It's so embarrassing.

00:07:24.480 It's patronizing and insufferable.

00:07:27.280 But you are right.

00:07:28.060 But they do, I think, because it gives them absolution.

00:07:30.240 I'm bringing social equality and justice to a poor, benighted brown.

00:07:35.140 And it's like, okay, I just don't think like that.

00:07:37.940 you know i just don't i don't agree i'm just not that racist right so anyway this all came

00:07:46.080 crashing down when nathan kofnis uh wrote his blog talking about the obvious plagiarism in

00:07:52.840 jason alde's phd but there were other things as well i'm not going to reiterate the uh numerous

00:07:58.140 and quite insane lies he told about you know books they'd published or the number of marathons he'd

00:08:04.020 run and all the sorts of everyone's just like right okay money he raised yeah yeah yeah just

00:08:09.060 all of these volunteering work that he did that didn't actually exist yes all of these

00:08:14.360 demonstrably provable lies right and the kind of lies where it's like yeah this is a really

00:08:18.100 ridiculous story i mean like actually ridiculous like you know world champion sprinter or long

00:08:23.900 distance runner ridiculous but any anyway anyway right it all came crashing down because as nathan

00:08:28.620 pointed out it only took one person to just actually look at this and they just assumed

00:08:32.520 that they knew that he was not what they were claiming that he was and they just decided okay

00:08:37.500 well we're just gonna ignore it and let's let's just hope that nothing ever goes wrong from that

00:08:43.220 point and so cambridge are responsible for his suicide in my opinion if anyone outside of jason

00:08:51.520 himself is going to be held responsible for his suicide it is these people who built him up into

00:08:56.880 a position that he was not qualified for did not deserve and then set him up for this massive

00:09:02.040 failing, right? I might put BBC on top of them. Sure. Because Cambridge couldn't have pulled

00:09:08.500 this off without being covered. I mean, BBC in England, even I've heard of it, but it's the

00:09:14.800 biggest media outlet, right? I mean, it's massively influential. Yes. And all they were doing was

00:09:21.180 blowing this guy over and over again, lying, lying, lying. If they had blown the whistle on him,

00:09:28.840 Cambridge would have had to back down. But Cambridge knows they'll get away with it because

00:09:32.000 they know that bbc will collaborate well when they did the west establishment acting in concert

00:09:36.740 that's correct and they do have the same religious principles yes underneath it all yes that yeah

00:09:43.000 that's exactly correct i like curtis yavin's uh cathedral metaphor i think that's actually

00:09:47.880 really good like social justice is church right and it's all of these institutions are part of

00:09:52.840 the grand cathedral of social justice so i mean like for example like you said when when he was

00:09:58.060 exposed by Nathan Kofnus. He was forced to step down. He actually had to resign. And now there's

00:10:03.420 going to be some sort of internal inquiry in Cambridge, which I'm sure is going to turn up

00:10:06.440 all of the relevant information that they actually need. Because it's exactly as you say,

00:10:10.920 it's an ideology, it's a religion, it's a worldview that permeates all of these institutions.

00:10:14.700 The reason that the BBC only gave him puff pieces and didn't find, didn't do any investigation into

00:10:19.600 this remarkable, ridiculous story, is because they didn't want to. They didn't want to see it. No,

00:10:24.860 we want there to be this black kid who couldn't speak at 11,

00:10:28.040 couldn't read or write until 18.

00:10:30.060 And now he's a PhD professor.

00:10:31.540 This is an amazing story of excellence.

00:10:34.600 Doesn't this totally under,

00:10:36.380 does anyone take the BBC seriously even before this?

00:10:40.280 And now with this,

00:10:41.140 how can you read anything?

00:10:42.780 Yeah,

00:10:43.000 unfortunately a lot of people do.

00:10:44.340 The BBC is trading on a reputation.

00:10:46.020 It lost about 40 years ago.

00:10:47.580 The New York Times would never have done this.

00:10:49.620 They might not have reported on him,

00:10:51.340 but they would never ever have done this.

00:10:53.920 well unfortunately things are more embarrassing in britain anyway so he he committed suicide which

00:11:00.060 is i think a terrible and selfish act uh the reason that you would commit suicide in this

00:11:04.860 circumstance is to avoid the public accountability that is going to be the consequence of a lifetime

00:11:10.520 of lies um and i actually think the right thing to do would have come out and said look actually

00:11:15.060 yeah i was lying about everything i actually did write a fraudulent thesis where i'd ripped off a

00:11:20.620 bunch of other people i did lie about all these things and i'm just really sorry if you'd written

00:11:24.420 a book about it it could have been hilarious he could have exposed all the cambridge professors

00:11:29.380 i said yeah if i were his agent i would say you have made it now but instead he decided to take

00:11:35.260 his own life which is terrible because he had a wife and children so this is terrible and they've

00:11:39.520 raised about 250 000 pounds for them which is fine you know that's you know it's not going to him you

00:11:44.660 know so it's totally fine um but this is the point now at which they're trying to turn him into a

00:11:51.840 black lives matter martyr because this is what they think oh again notice how all of their martyrs

00:11:58.100 are criminals right yes i mean i guess jay starday isn't actually a criminal but he is still a liar

00:12:03.220 a fraudster confidence trickster you know but but all of their all of their martyrs are just bad

00:12:07.860 people and i'm not very impressive at all so they have this vigil at trafalgar square we'll watch a

00:12:12.880 bit of this just so we can get a feel for it silence afforded in death

00:12:23.200 but in the last few weeks of his life jason our day supporters say he had anything but

00:12:31.680 this time last week

00:12:33.840 I was with Jason because we knew Jason was suffering we knew that he felt

00:12:42.240 hounded by those rabid wolves Jason wouldn't dare leave the house and we

00:12:53.400 said we'll get a taxi for you we held him in our arms

00:12:59.240 i'm sorry this is just for anyone who's wondering uh this is just a collection of

00:13:06.980 britain's biggest race grifters yes but this guy is in the he's he's what was his title he's in

00:13:12.540 the house of lords and he's a principal of homerton college yeah something like that let's get it back

00:13:16.620 okay that that's worth yeah principal of homerton college cambridge and lord simon woolley oh good

00:13:21.680 i have not of the ai higher i'm sure yeah i have a suspicion that if someone looked into

00:13:26.420 certain things nathan's just like yeah we gotta get going on this yeah yeah but this is a problem

00:13:33.620 that um the entire woke edifice has now is uh jason arday has called every single non-white

00:13:40.620 professor non-white academic and anyone else in any other position into question yes the the danger

00:13:48.060 now is that someone starts looking into the rest of them oh you were also a black professor who was

00:13:53.280 hired during the height of woke what are the odds and oh look isn't your work bad as well and it will

00:13:59.360 end up being essentially a cascading effect that delegitimizes all of the woke establishment i i

00:14:05.340 hope people do do it and you know what's going to give them a great head start they need um facial

00:14:10.460 recognition for everyone at that rally well they have they're basically holding up signs saying

00:14:15.260 I'm incompetent, I can't get a job without DEI.

00:14:19.880 Yes, they are saying that.

00:14:22.140 But this has become a defensive mechanism for Woke now,

00:14:27.660 and so they are turning him into a genuine martyr,

00:14:31.220 and they're doing it using religious rituals.

00:14:34.720 Listen to this.

00:14:35.320 So what if we say, we say, Professor Jason R.J.

00:14:41.880 I mean, they are appealing to a saint.

00:14:50.280 I mean, it feels very much like a Catholic ritual, right?

00:14:54.600 Yeah.

00:14:55.380 And I'm not saying this wrong.

00:14:57.000 We pray the rosary collectively sometimes.

00:15:01.260 This is trying to mimic that sentence.

00:15:04.700 That's what they're doing.

00:15:06.060 There is actually something.

00:15:07.960 The reason that armies have songs, right?

00:15:11.360 there's always marching songs with armies and war songs is because actually a large group of people

00:15:15.680 singing together creates this kind of psychological bonding effect it makes them feel like they're all

00:15:21.780 part of the same thing and they're all actually bound together this is why literally all the way

00:15:25.500 through history in every culture every army every um culture has these these folk songs you know

00:15:32.080 this is this is what they are and this is what they're doing now is if we all just get each

00:15:36.000 chant professor jason arday professor now you're all brought into the congregation and sanctified

00:15:42.000 and turning it into a proper religion like this is like the saint george floyd effect right this

00:15:47.460 is what they're trying to do to nick uh jason and like i said every race grifter is there i mean you

00:15:52.120 know zach polanski was there of course he's the leader of the green party same race grifter as

00:15:57.280 you can imagine the green party is being a race communist party it's just for the non-whites and

00:16:02.160 don't forget the don't forget the degenerates oh yeah yeah yeah is that a party no it's part of

00:16:09.020 the party it's part of the green party it's the degenerates the jihadis and a bunch of insane

00:16:13.680 communists in one party seeking salvation and the destruction of the west yeah seeing the

00:16:21.600 destruction of britain is what they're after and they're pretty open about it who is voting for

00:16:25.940 them i mean all the dei candidates of the population 17 it's gone down now they were

00:16:32.080 calling at 17 12 it's about 12 college kids uh yeah them muslim immigrants and uh as you said

00:16:40.080 like various communities of alternative lifestyles do they do the muslims know where the greens stand

00:16:46.420 on like transgenders and gays completely know but the greens are promising to give them money

00:16:51.440 funneled from the white majority population so the greens are like look we're going to give you

00:16:55.080 all these benefits and so and this is literally happening in gorton and denton so there was a

00:16:59.400 by-election uh in an area of manchester was 30 muslim but 67 uh white english and the greens won

00:17:06.740 it by literally going to the muslims and saying look we're just going to give you loads of stuff

00:17:09.600 and so the muslims all voted for the greens and they got a green mp out of it and the muslims

00:17:14.040 understand that if they wait long enough they will have their chance to toss them off the roof

00:17:17.300 they they are just right yeah the muslims know exactly what they're doing uh the i assume that

00:17:23.340 the communists know exactly what they're doing too and just they think it won't happen to them

00:17:26.600 um anyway so we get some uh quite um extreme rhetoric coming out of it this is a bad recording

00:17:33.180 but we'll watch anyway we're appalled by the public assassination of jason odd

00:17:43.180 the lynching

00:17:47.220 the lynching

00:17:50.840 we go back a long way right so now we're going to get the american narrative on lynching in the south

00:18:00.240 british the guardian right because remember like remember it was the guardian that was reporting

00:18:08.100 on this primarily like a load of people were but the guardian the independent they all did because

00:18:12.020 is what Jason Arday did was wrong.

00:18:14.460 There's just no argument from the case of, I don't know,

00:18:16.840 academic standards that Jason Arday was anything other than in the wrong.

00:18:20.900 Nobody reported anything wrong or false, right?

00:18:24.220 Nobody said anything incorrect.

00:18:27.080 But as far as they're concerned, right, okay, this was a lynching out.

00:18:29.460 So no, what this was was accountability.

00:18:31.800 It was public accountability for a person of a highly influential,

00:18:35.040 highly, really well-paid position.

00:18:36.520 I mean, he got like a million and a half,

00:18:38.420 a million pounds advance on a book that he was due to write.

00:18:42.020 for example like this is where this is what getting in these positions gets you it opens

00:18:46.240 manifold doors there is also a point about integration because lord woolly whoever he is

00:18:52.000 will at the drop of a hat revert to this kind of race grifting nonsense even though he's a

00:18:59.700 chancellor of a college in uh in cambridge like you don't get more successful than this

00:19:05.080 in academia there there is nowhere higher to go you know maybe a government minister david lammy

00:19:11.580 who does want reparations and all of that.

00:19:17.160 But it sort of shows, okay, inclusion didn't work.

00:19:21.140 Now what?

00:19:21.840 What more could we have done?

00:19:23.080 Is this bringing down the reputation of these colleges?

00:19:26.640 I mean, yes.

00:19:27.420 On the plus side, it's really damaged Cambridge's reputation.

00:19:29.700 It was definitely hurt in the U.S.

00:19:31.520 Yeah.

00:19:32.340 In fact, we have some parallels of the U.S.

00:19:34.220 We'll get to it in a minute.

00:19:35.340 Diane Abbott was there.

00:19:36.620 You had trade unionists were there who were saying,

00:19:39.520 well, we will not tolerate racism in our society, okay?

00:19:43.440 What's that got to do with the trade union?

00:19:45.900 Just out of interest.

00:19:47.340 There were signs racism kills, but again, none of the,

00:19:51.100 I mean, in a way they're kind of right

00:19:52.460 because it is because Jason Arday was black

00:19:56.120 that he was given all of this treatment, right?

00:19:59.520 If, I mean, I saw lots of them going,

00:20:01.200 well, if he was a white man,

00:20:02.300 he wouldn't be handed in the media like this.

00:20:03.720 Oh, no, I can't stand that anymore.

00:20:05.260 You have to work twice as hard.

00:20:06.880 In a way, they're right.

00:20:09.520 In a way, they're right.

00:20:10.900 If Jason Arday was white, he would never have been made the chair of this college.

00:20:14.360 No, if he were white, he'd be...

00:20:16.540 He'd be a nobody.

00:20:17.220 He'd be serving chips in McDonald's, you know, fries or McDonald's.

00:20:21.260 What was the guy?

00:20:22.080 He'd be a nobody.

00:20:25.140 I can't remember anything.

00:20:26.560 I'm galloping Alzheimer's.

00:20:28.920 But the point is, they're kind of right, because they're condescending.

00:20:32.060 Bernie Madoff.

00:20:32.980 That's who he'd be.

00:20:34.660 Do we even know who he is?

00:20:36.440 Not really, no.

00:20:37.600 He ripped off...

00:20:38.660 He was a fake financial guy.

00:20:40.380 I mean, he started off real, and he stole millions, billions, perhaps,

00:20:45.000 from all these rich people in New York and Palm Beach.

00:20:47.720 Right, right, right.

00:20:48.360 Interesting.

00:20:49.480 I don't think he'd be that successful.

00:20:51.540 Yeah, nobody held vigils for Bernie Madoff.

00:20:54.580 Yeah, but I think that's giving him, I'll do too much credit.

00:20:57.840 I don't think he'd be able to steal billions.

00:20:59.960 I think he'd be a small time.

00:21:01.800 Well, I'm saying once the con is exposed,

00:21:04.320 I've never heard of a con man being exposed and being, oh, what a...

00:21:07.740 turned into a martyr. He's a saint. Yeah. But that's because this con man was a con man who

00:21:13.340 was facilitated by a religion that is specifically trying to advance itself and solidify its own hold

00:21:20.840 on these institutions. And by the way, one of his sons, Madoff's sons, committed suicide.

00:21:25.600 Oh, really? So it's not like complete, well, and he committed suicide. Yet one of his sons did.

00:21:30.460 But the religion and the institutions that religion controls is trying to use our day

00:21:36.140 now as a shield against accountability for its own decisions um and that's why they're trying

00:21:40.880 to elevate him and that's why they're elevating to a point where we're not supposed to be

00:21:44.480 criticizing him like this right no he committed suicide how could you do this is because he was

00:21:48.020 a con artist because he was a fraudster and you guys put him in this position i didn't put him

00:21:53.680 in this position my criticism i think has been rather tepid yeah you lied about a bunch of stuff

00:21:57.940 you shouldn't have lied you shouldn't have been in that position that's that's my criticism i

00:22:01.900 think that's completely fair and i don't think there's any point that you could say that was

00:22:04.300 wrong anyway so um this has parallels doesn't it in america with claudine gay who also was made

00:22:11.600 harvard's first black female president in 2024 and only for a very brief point uh period of time

00:22:18.160 because was it christopher rufo who yeah it was yeah good yeah i like rufo um but he he was like

00:22:24.680 well he's plagiarized a lot of our works like really what were the odds right what were the

00:22:28.880 odds of that well it turns out this is just a witch hunt don't know what's wrong with you

00:22:33.520 They want a public inquiry into the witch hunt.

00:22:35.780 It's like, what do you mean?

00:22:36.820 I've seen Zach Polanski from the Greens was like,

00:22:39.120 well, we need to have some sort of body that prevents people from reporting on this.

00:22:42.940 I mean, he's a communist.

00:22:44.820 They already have it.

00:22:45.920 It's called the BBC.

00:22:47.840 I mean, you've got the conspiracy theory that this is a Peter Thiel-linked race science network.

00:22:54.680 Okay.

00:22:55.460 That's fantastic.

00:22:56.420 Where did this appear?

00:22:57.640 Yeah, this is from something called the Byline Times.

00:22:59.900 Now, the Byline Times is a communist conspiracy outlet that comes up with things like this.

00:23:06.580 There was a petition to prevent people publishing articles about this.

00:23:12.140 There were 249 articles published about Jason A. Day.

00:23:14.960 That's more than 10 a day.

00:23:15.940 Oh, good grief.

00:23:16.920 From media harm.

00:23:18.180 Yeah, start with conservatives.

00:23:19.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:20.660 Like Nigel Farage.

00:23:21.700 I mean, Anne Widdicombe was bludgeoned to death in her own house the other day.

00:23:26.700 So it's just like, okay, well, would...

00:23:28.780 And the police still haven't told us anything.

00:23:30.220 And we still don't know anything about it, apparently.

00:23:33.320 And so it's just like, look,

00:23:34.360 you guys have been doing this with conservatives for years,

00:23:37.560 but also when this law comes in and suddenly,

00:23:40.460 oh, the Guardian's not allowed to report on Nigel Farage now,

00:23:42.880 it's not allowed to report on Rupert Lowe now,

00:23:44.540 you're going to be screaming to high heaven about this.

00:23:46.600 No, no, no, that was only supposed to protect our little client group.

00:23:49.840 That wasn't supposed to protect you, so it's never going to happen.

00:23:52.320 It's never going to happen.

00:23:53.800 Absolutely despise this nonsense.

00:23:55.900 One of the things I did enjoy, though, and we'll end on this,

00:23:58.100 is the response from the left.

00:24:00.440 Because I don't know whether you've noticed,

00:24:02.040 but the left in Britain,

00:24:03.120 but I think also in America as well,

00:24:04.520 is trying to get beyond woke.

00:24:05.820 They're trying to go, woke, woke man.

00:24:07.180 Everyone thinks, woke man.

00:24:07.700 I had nothing to do with that, yeah.

00:24:10.020 So we're not woke anymore, guys.

00:24:11.860 We're like, you know, the post-woke left.

00:24:13.560 We're thinking about economics.

00:24:15.020 Well, Aaron Bastani runs a media organization

00:24:17.200 called Devaro Media.

00:24:18.080 And they're kind of like our weird, bizarro twin.

00:24:21.080 They're the left-wing version of us, basically.

00:24:23.020 And he had to come out and apologize to his own audience.

00:24:25.840 because when this Jason Arday stuff started,

00:24:28.680 it was very clear that he'd plagiarized.

00:24:30.160 It was very clear he'd lied.

00:24:30.920 And so he came out and said,

00:24:32.340 oh, this guy plagiarized and lied.

00:24:34.140 So maybe he shouldn't be

00:24:35.180 the head of sociology of education at Cambridge.

00:24:38.320 And then he committed suicide.

00:24:39.480 And then Aaron Bassan is like,

00:24:40.420 come out and say, yeah, I was wrong.

00:24:41.940 I was wrong.

00:24:42.720 It's like, why?

00:24:43.480 Why did you do that?

00:24:44.800 It's because you're not post-woke.

00:24:46.640 You're still just as woke as ever.

00:24:48.120 In fact, it wasn't just one, but it was a second.

00:24:49.380 Still holding you hostage.

00:24:50.400 It was, exactly.

00:24:51.520 It was a second one at Novara Media.

00:24:53.220 This guy is also a Novara Media reporter.

00:24:55.240 right and in this video he's on the verge of tears from having to give this public apology

00:25:00.180 but you did nothing wrong the only way that this would be wrong is if you had active accidentally

00:25:06.460 stood in the way of the canonization of a woke saint and you realize oh no wait what what by by

00:25:13.340 by being critical of jason arday we put ourselves outside of the left-wing coalition oh right okay

00:25:18.000 no we're really sorry god we're so sorry wait no no i i was totally wrong i was i was completely

00:25:23.060 ethically wrong don't kick me out of the left for wanting actual standards and accountability in

00:25:28.020 public life because this is a black guy like i can't stand outside and criticize that it'd be

00:25:33.460 like someone in america criticizing george floyd on the left right right and then coming oh yeah

00:25:37.380 no i was wrong about that yeah maybe he shouldn't have exactly that pregnant woman's house and so

00:25:41.960 navarro have been publishing a bunch of articles like oh we we lost jason our day to a moral moral

00:25:46.080 panic oh good grief pathetic absolutely standards are a moral panic that you know you're they say

00:25:52.680 moral panic they mean something horrifically immoral has happened but we're going to defend

00:25:57.140 it anyway yes but it was one of our guys it's supposed to be a friend i mean i i can't think

00:26:01.740 of a moral pain i suppose there are some that have taken place on right dragons or something

00:26:05.820 it's always i guess that's right yeah you have to go back a ways but of course it's always a left

00:26:11.200 the whole me too stuff the blm stuff um but wait on your point that we're going to be able to

00:26:17.900 unearth a lot more plagiarism yeah um just saying right if you're a right-winger you want to make

00:26:25.700 your name right just and they're now programs and can run it but what i don't understand is

00:26:30.660 isn't the entire other unless it's that guy um professor fray i think his name is at harvard

00:26:38.820 the economist who keeps producing black guy he's producing statistics saying cops actually don't

00:26:44.220 stop black people more right um and that sort of thing so he gets falsy cues every generation has

00:26:49.240 a thomas soul right so unless you exclude the black professors who are not teaching about racism

00:26:56.080 that's all their books are about that's all all the act and black i would say 90 percent of black

00:27:01.800 academics it's all about racism how can it not be plagiarism it's always racism is responsible for

00:27:07.900 everything well even then i get i mean it doesn't have to be plagiarism plagiarism is literally the

00:27:11.800 copying and pasting which are they had done of like the idea is i've heard that racism is bad

00:27:17.260 you know it's it's fine for them to be unoriginal right that's actually fine um and you are

00:27:23.020 absolutely correct they're completely unoriginal i spent years reading all of the um critical race

00:27:28.000 theory texts unbelievably boring unbelievably boring and you're exactly correct it's all just

00:27:33.500 like yeah but racism is bad okay okay okay i've got it and they come to the conclusion well we

00:27:39.320 just need to uh dismantle uh white supremacist structures which just happen to be you know the

00:27:44.320 courts the police it's like yeah you know what i think you've got a different agenda um but anyway

00:27:50.060 on that note we'll we'll leave it there and uh we'll we'll move on very good um based ape says

00:27:57.000 when i get the mouse there um this was a perfect storm of coddling mummying and perpetual fantasizing

00:28:02.320 of the devouring mother resulting in a man who ironically was shielded against any exposure

00:28:07.740 exposure to actual adversity and high end uh but that's a great point and no no that's a really

00:28:14.060 great point it like for example claudine gay didn't commit suicide she just stepped down and

00:28:19.660 you know probably failed upwards somewhere else right she well she's still a professor at harvard

00:28:24.360 there we go right she's still a professor she's not head of harvard um but i i think that's exactly

00:28:30.160 right when you're in this kind of woke bubble the woke like religious machinery and you've been

00:28:37.120 chosen as like you know the the literally like a chosen one yeah when are you ever going to be

00:28:43.000 exposed to any serious pushback on anything and suddenly what jason arday did didn't call them

00:28:48.860 white privileged exactly and i mean he he went to a set of particularly uh aggressive lawyers as well

00:28:55.360 when this started first breaking to try and get this story shut down as well so it's not like

00:28:59.540 he's some sort of innocent babe in the woods um but yeah i guess you know when suddenly it's like

00:29:04.140 okay, well now millions of people

00:29:05.880 who aren't constantly protecting my ego

00:29:08.160 are not coddling me about this whole thing.

00:29:11.480 Yeah, maybe that's a tough thing to deal with.

00:29:14.560 A book would have been great.

00:29:16.760 Well, yeah, but never have done it.

00:29:19.820 Anyway, let's move on.

00:29:21.040 All right, let's go to America.

00:29:23.000 Let's go to America, yes.

00:29:25.360 If you haven't gotten your copy of Islander 6,

00:29:27.840 please make sure that you do.

00:29:29.560 The essays are really good,

00:29:31.260 particularly Luca's essay about Samwise Gamgee and the essay about Orania and what to do and

00:29:40.280 how to go forward. So this is something that gives you answers as opposed to keeping on

00:29:45.040 diagnosing the problem. Now, there's been a bunch of criticism of J.D. Vance.

00:29:49.680 Yeah. James Lindsay going at him hard the other day.

00:29:52.980 Yes, yes, yes. I'm going to mention some of that. And what I want to sort of cover is

00:29:57.900 what are some of the legitimate concerns about J.D. Vance? What are the ridiculous claims about

00:30:04.260 J.D. Vance? And what are the things that J.D. Vance has gotten absolutely right?

00:30:10.660 So starting off, there is definitely reason to be concerned about the connections to the donors.

00:30:18.300 People like Paul Singer, people like Peter Thiel, who, you know, buying children and being part of

00:30:25.300 the conservative movement, there's a bit of a tension there. So there is reason to worry about

00:30:31.780 the associations with the donors, particularly the tech bros, given that JD Vance is coming out

00:30:37.900 in support of these giant data centers, which are just going to support the total surveillance AI

00:30:47.020 that is also being deployed. That's a legitimate criticism. I think people should be very worried

00:30:53.500 about that just to go back on that a second the problem that we have with ai is the problem with

00:30:58.160 every new technology which is okay this is going to change things substantively yes and it won't

00:31:03.440 always be for the better no but now that the genie is out of the bottle yes what are you going to do

00:31:08.960 i think it will be for the better but it will it'll jostle things i think people get used to

00:31:13.920 after a while it's like with the internet yeah exactly like i you know i'm old enough to remember

00:31:18.280 Or a pre-internet era, pre-mobile phone era.

00:31:21.100 I didn't have a bloody mobile phone until I was like 19 years old.

00:31:23.600 Then it was a brick, you know.

00:31:25.660 So, yeah, I think people worry too much about these sort of, you know, technological changes.

00:31:30.020 Always.

00:31:31.460 But it's one of those things you just have to be on the forefront of.

00:31:34.660 Yes, but the combination of Palantir and data centers and AI does lend itself to a sort of total surveillance society that is genuinely frightening.

00:31:45.700 I disagree with that.

00:31:48.280 OK, let's let's let's let's do one thing is I'm thrilled if Paul Singer is funding J.D. Vance.

00:31:56.560 Sorry, this is a separate thing, because for some reason, some neoconservative, i.e. Jewish Americans, have gotten a bee in their bonnet about J.D. Vance.

00:32:06.360 Right. He was famously the only member of the Trump administration who pretty clearly was against the Iran war, which has turned out to be a total disaster.

00:32:13.500 But instead of people saying, oh my gosh, I was wrong. He was right. They're embarrassed that they were wrong and he was right. So they attack him. Singer's big thing is this is fantastic that Singer supports him because that means maybe the anger can be negotiated with. We do need Jewish voters. They're very important in the Republican Party.

00:32:36.680 Teal, Peter, Teal, I should tell you, is one of my best friends.

00:32:40.460 I dedicated one of my books to him.

00:32:42.080 And he was going to strike his deal at the Pentagon when he was staying with me one time.

00:32:48.500 He had to leave a half day early.

00:32:50.420 And on the way to the airport, he was describing to me what Palantir does.

00:32:54.340 And maybe I'm wrong and maybe you guys know more about this.

00:32:57.380 But what I remember, and I was driving and I'm a terrible driver, so I was only half listening.

00:33:01.220 um it's it's actually way better than the what we were doing pre that for surveillance which was to

00:33:08.600 follow people to follow phones yes and now it's more they're looking in the miasma of things going

00:33:15.980 through the internet and if a combination of words come together they start with that combination

00:33:22.040 and then zoom in on and and also i think they used um um palantir to get um who was our attorney

00:33:31.080 general in new york with the prostitution scandal i told you i'm galloping alzheimer's anyway um he

00:33:37.160 tried to shut down the paypal deal and palantir caught him on the prostitution um he's like new

00:33:42.840 york royalty anyway um so ai i'm and ai is the next thing and that's why i think bringing them

00:33:49.680 all together data centers that is a moral panic right that is people freaking out and you are so

00:33:57.340 lucky in England that people aren't freaking out about it. And I do know at all these town hall

00:34:00.980 meetings, people are flipping out. And I ask one of my friends who owns data centers, and he just

00:34:09.420 got mad at every, I'm just reading all of the complaints with me. He got mad and yelled at me

00:34:13.080 for every single thing that was mentioned. Yeah, people are, they're offering to buy farmland.

00:34:20.040 They don't use up all this electricity. They don't use up all this water. They pay the towns. Yeah,

00:34:25.380 they're not as pretty as a farm, but okay, neither is an oil rig. And we need oil rigs and we need

00:34:31.480 data centers to run everything, AI, your computer, your internet. And people flipping out about this,

00:34:39.780 and they so are flipping out about this in America, they're just wrong and they need to be

00:34:43.640 talked to. They're acting as if these things consume water and destroy the water. It's very

00:34:49.300 bizarre. It's like, no, they wash water. They recycle it. Yeah. The total amount of water in

00:34:54.720 the world is still the same they're acting as just burning it up it's like what is wrong with you

00:34:59.560 people right anyway yeah i'm not that bothered about the death centers is just a normal part

00:35:06.180 of technological progress i'm worried but i don't think it's a legitimate reason yeah yeah to sort

00:35:11.160 of hate jd vance yeah the surveillance is a genuine issue i mean i've never spoken to peter

00:35:15.540 but like you know i called it palantir and it's going to have mass surveillance of everything

00:35:19.100 in your society it's like okay that's not great yes you know like that's not what i'd choose

00:35:23.980 No, that's true.

00:35:25.140 But I think as far as these things go,

00:35:27.100 it's one of the least intrusive.

00:35:29.000 And who decides to use it for something?

00:35:31.660 I guess that's where the problem is,

00:35:33.140 not the technology.

00:35:34.940 Yes.

00:35:36.640 Having the technology is a bit of an issue

00:35:38.320 because we're probably going to get

00:35:39.160 a left-wing government at some point.

00:35:40.400 Yes.

00:35:41.380 Once you have it,

00:35:42.580 it sort of heads in a certain direction.

00:35:44.380 Oh, they're already spying on us.

00:35:45.960 We're all...

00:35:46.360 That I do know.

00:35:48.120 But that's another point, isn't it?

00:35:49.200 We're being so precious about it.

00:35:50.320 Well, not this kind of spying.

00:35:51.500 It's like, oh, God, come on, man.

00:35:53.620 Yes.

00:35:53.980 It's fine on everything forever.

00:35:55.800 You know, yeah, yeah.

00:35:56.920 That horse is bolted.

00:35:58.380 Exactly.

00:35:58.860 Anyway.

00:35:59.640 You can criticize Vance for saying things like,

00:36:02.080 the purpose of the Iran war now is to keep oil prices low.

00:36:05.860 Okay.

00:36:06.380 Well, that's at least a purpose that benefits us.

00:36:08.520 In his defense.

00:36:09.480 It's not, but like.

00:36:10.840 It wasn't his choice, I know.

00:36:12.620 Hold on.

00:36:13.780 We're just going through.

00:36:14.760 Okay, okay, okay.

00:36:15.840 Sort of, you know, it was imposed on him, fair enough.

00:36:19.920 And then Trump sort of goes, no, no, no.

00:36:21.860 This isn't the oil price that we're worried about.

00:36:24.720 It's about the nuclear weapons.

00:36:26.740 You've got to try and finesse this one.

00:36:28.460 You could say J.D. Vance didn't do a good job in the negotiations

00:36:31.680 because he didn't throw Kushner and Witkoff under the bus

00:36:34.740 because Kushner and Witkoff never wanted a deal.

00:36:37.980 They went to the Iran nuclear negotiations without a nuclear technical deal.

00:36:42.040 That is not what you do if you actually want to resolve it.

00:36:45.100 So you could make that criticism.

00:36:46.980 You could make criticism about the business dealings.

00:36:50.620 Oh, yeah.

00:36:51.640 The Trump family and the crypto billions and the weird deals in Kazakhstan and all of that.

00:36:57.900 Fair enough.

00:36:58.520 You could say that.

00:37:00.060 However.

00:37:01.020 How much are my Trump coins worth?

00:37:02.400 Say again?

00:37:03.060 How much are my Trump coins worth?

00:37:04.040 I don't know.

00:37:04.620 Good question.

00:37:05.220 Joking.

00:37:05.580 I don't understand crypto.

00:37:09.620 You could say that he was a bit soft on the whole Israeli connection with the Epstein files

00:37:14.660 because he tried to cast it as the left part, the left wing of the Israeli establishment,

00:37:19.160 when in reality it was just the security establishment,

00:37:22.000 which is neither left nor right.

00:37:23.720 It just serves the state.

00:37:24.620 Well, Epstein and the people around him were left-wing.

00:37:27.720 The Democrats, Epstein, I know everything about Epstein.

00:37:33.280 Heavily, heavily Democratic Party.

00:37:35.000 It was an irony that, and I have no idea why Trump didn't want to release it.

00:37:40.920 It was Democrats almost across the board.

00:37:44.060 Yes.

00:37:44.760 I don't understand why Trump just stepped on this rake repeatedly.

00:37:47.540 I know.

00:37:49.320 Like, there was just nothing that bad in it about him.

00:37:52.580 Yes.

00:37:52.980 And as you say, you know, it's constant Democrats.

00:37:55.120 It's like, okay, but, oh, no, it's a hoax.

00:37:56.680 What are you talking about?

00:37:58.160 You had Lutnick there.

00:37:59.840 You had a Teal tangentially there.

00:38:04.140 In that case, Teal being gay really helped him.

00:38:08.480 I was totally prepared for Trump to really get crushed.

00:38:12.140 Yes.

00:38:12.500 And nothing, and, you know, the dust clears,

00:38:15.340 and it's like, okay, what happened with Trump?

00:38:16.760 Well, not really much.

00:38:18.040 Well, he ended up signing the bill pushed by, my love, Thomas Massey, to release all the files, which is going to take a while.

00:38:25.200 And I think he's right about this.

00:38:29.780 But also what you're criticizing him for.

00:38:32.680 Because Barak isn't just the left of Israeli politics.

00:38:39.120 Barak is an establishment creature from head of IDF, through minister of defense, through prime minister, through connections to the business community there, including particularly the tech sector.

00:38:51.280 If I wanted to run for president in the United States or even dog catcher, I would spend weeks formulating an appropriate answer to the questions he's being asked.

00:39:01.920 And if I had my smartest friends and AI helping me, these are the answers I'd come up with.

00:39:07.040 Okay, I'll give you that.

00:39:08.580 I mean, he's really in a pickle.

00:39:11.640 I will give you that.

00:39:12.760 I will give you that.

00:39:13.620 But I do think for us is right that the network transcends left-right politics

00:39:18.820 and is more of a structural...

00:39:20.940 No, it's definitely pro-Israel, pro-Israel,

00:39:23.080 but on the U.S. side, it was left-wing, left-wing, left-wing.

00:39:27.400 The thing is, though, there's a lot of too much pro-Israel in the right

00:39:31.300 in Republicans, you know?

00:39:32.920 The evangelicals, and I'm an evangelical, but they're wrong about...

00:39:37.520 I'm mad about it.

00:39:38.700 They're wrong about this being required by the Bible.

00:39:41.920 Read the Bible.

00:39:43.160 Jesus replaced Israel.

00:39:44.820 Return the page.

00:39:46.000 Get to the New Testament.

00:39:48.200 But anyway, anyway.

00:39:51.860 For us as a Catholic, he's very happy to hear that.

00:39:54.500 Thank you for that.

00:39:55.820 I appreciate it, genuinely.

00:39:57.960 You could criticize him for his backing the Big Beautiful Bill

00:40:00.680 and the debt consequences of the Big Beautiful Bill.

00:40:04.080 now the United States is spending almost $4 billion a day on interest.

00:40:08.120 You can't. He is the vice president of Donald Trump.

00:40:11.240 I know.

00:40:11.560 You are asking the impossible of this.

00:40:13.480 What can you do about it?

00:40:14.220 You could say that.

00:40:15.940 You could say that.

00:40:16.600 Wait, the best thing that could happen to J.D. Vance is that Trump dies

00:40:20.140 because Trump is so going to screw him when he runs.

00:40:23.680 We were talking about this at dinner the other night,

00:40:25.360 and I was saying, you know, if he criticizes the Iran war,

00:40:27.960 Trump is going to attack him and tell people.

00:40:29.520 And somebody at the table said, if he attacks Trump's tweet on Rob Reiner, Trump will attack him.

00:40:36.000 Yes.

00:40:37.220 Yes.

00:40:38.700 And you could last say about him that he was a never-Trumper who wanted to vote for Evan McMullin and all of that nonsense.

00:40:45.380 I'll defend him on that.

00:40:46.500 We've all been on a joke.

00:40:47.340 You could make these quizzes.

00:40:48.020 He was young and he had just gone out of Yale Law School.

00:40:50.120 Here's where it is stupid.

00:40:50.660 Lucky he wasn't a communist.

00:40:52.100 So what I try to do is go through the fairer attacks or the possible avenues of attacks.

00:40:59.140 That could arguably be justified.

00:41:01.820 Now I want to go to the absolutely freaking retarded attacks.

00:41:07.220 Apparently, J.D. Vance is a socialist because he wants to take control of the institutions,

00:41:14.780 including things like taxing the Harvard Foundation, taking control of the Ford Foundation,

00:41:22.500 and actually making the administrative state work for the right.

00:41:25.900 you know that makes him a socialist and somebody took the time to compile clips of jd vance saying

00:41:33.200 actually the institutions shouldn't be left in the hands of the enemy and turn that into a bad

00:41:39.360 thing well you can see that mine's what the first reply well do you think the left should own these

00:41:43.360 institutions good for you because that's that's literally all he's saying there yeah yes the

00:41:47.740 right doesn't own the institutions the left does yeah why would you want that this is the james

00:41:51.780 lindsey subversion so oh i would do anything other than seize political power real right

00:41:56.340 wingers definitely don't seize political powers hi i'm a i'm a republican yeah no you're a democrat

00:42:01.160 subversive you're a liberal get out of it yes that's all you are go away um apparently there's

00:42:08.340 criticism of vans for noticing that having the reserve currency has second order effects

00:42:14.320 to be the to be the reserve currency you must have a current account deficit and you must have

00:42:20.360 budget deficit because you need to keep on exporting dollars to the rest of the world.

00:42:25.400 Yes. In exchange for their goods.

00:42:27.320 In exchange for their goods.

00:42:28.440 It's an incredible imperial system.

00:42:29.960 It is an incredible imperial system, but it does harm domestic production.

00:42:35.720 Yeah, I guess.

00:42:36.440 It does lead to deindustrialization. It has predictable consequences on your ability to

00:42:41.960 grow your own food, make your own weapons, develop your own technologies.

00:42:45.960 jd vance points this out that makes him apparently what communist i i i don't understand but

00:42:54.980 apparently this is really bad that jd vance understands how a reserve currency actually

00:43:01.940 works so jd vance and that is a reason to condemn him because he thinks that there is a trade-off

00:43:07.620 there and maybe the americans have erred too far on one side of the trade-off which has led to the

00:43:13.600 Chinese ending up in control of 30% of global manufacturing. So what you're saying is J.D.

00:43:18.700 Vance recognizes the importance of the national principle in politics, not just the imperial

00:43:23.820 principle. Yes. Okay, that's great. Amazing. That is a terrible thing because he knows that it's

00:43:28.740 linked to the dollar. Yeah, amazing. Love it. I'd love to see it. All this is selling him to me.

00:43:34.840 I know. J.D. Vance is woke right. Great. Have you heard that? Yes. And he's a post-lib,

00:43:41.260 says James Lindsay.

00:43:42.660 That's why I like J.D. Vance

00:43:44.080 and don't like James Lindsay.

00:43:45.860 I do not understand the phrase woke right.

00:43:48.940 It does not exist.

00:43:50.400 I'm sick of people using it

00:43:52.080 just to attack someone they don't like

00:43:53.900 who happens to be a Republican.

00:43:55.580 What on earth does it mean?

00:43:56.540 They destroy people.

00:43:57.780 It only works if that Republican is white.

00:44:01.420 It doesn't work.

00:44:02.920 You can't call Thomas Sowell woke right.

00:44:05.920 It only works if that Republican is also white,

00:44:08.720 then you get to call him woke right.

00:44:10.240 I mean, the principle behind it is that you've noticed that every other community in the West that isn't from the West has organized along ethnic lines.

00:44:20.120 You've woken up to the reality that you guys are slowly losing your nations.

00:44:25.380 And your jobs.

00:44:26.340 And your jobs and your livelihoods and your institutions and, and, and, but your nations.

00:44:32.200 Now you think you should do something about it.

00:44:35.000 Woke right.

00:44:35.900 Or preferably woke right.

00:44:37.960 Now I understand.

00:44:38.800 And so they're claiming that's identity politics to notice that you're being discriminated against.

00:44:43.160 Yes.

00:44:43.640 And to notice that you have a particular claim to your nation.

00:44:48.980 But also...

00:44:50.040 To notice that I'm a foreigner and you're a native American and that he's a native English.

00:44:53.860 Okay, at least now I understand.

00:44:55.180 It's retarded, but I understand.

00:44:56.940 No, no, no, but in a way it kind of makes sense, right?

00:45:01.120 Because what the woke have been doing is identifying all of the points of infrastructure of our societies, right?

00:45:06.800 It's like the nuclear family, the white nuclear family.

00:45:09.820 The fact that, you know, if you go back in and see videos of like kids in like the 90s and the 2000s at high schools, they'll look happy and cheery.

00:45:17.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:18.700 That's bad.

00:45:19.780 That was fascism.

00:45:20.660 That was fascism, right?

00:45:21.980 They've identified all of these points, you know, white men getting an education, getting a job, getting a family and having a stay at home wife.

00:45:28.500 And she raises children.

00:45:30.120 This produces happy, healthy, productive communities.

00:45:32.920 So we need to intercede at each of these points and drag them down.

00:45:36.460 That's what woke left is.

00:45:38.100 And woke right is, no, we need to buffer those.

00:45:40.240 We need to bolster those.

00:45:41.120 We need to make those things as good and fulsome as possible

00:45:43.880 because that makes our civilization good.

00:45:45.660 And that's woke right.

00:45:46.500 And that's why James Lindsay is freaking out.

00:45:48.720 Yes.

00:45:49.040 He can't take it.

00:45:49.600 Who is James Lindsay?

00:45:51.100 He's just so...

00:45:51.680 Oh, don't worry.

00:45:53.180 If you don't know...

00:45:54.840 If you don't ask me that question, move on.

00:45:56.300 It's fine.

00:45:56.960 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:57.620 Trust us.

00:45:58.020 You are happier now.

00:46:00.080 You are happier now.

00:46:01.700 I guard my ignorance.

00:46:03.560 I'm happy about my ignorance.

00:46:04.660 I wish I didn't know who James Lizzie was, but I worked for him.

00:46:08.640 Sorry.

00:46:09.420 Whatever.

00:46:10.960 Then you get these attacks from Ben Shapiro saying that he's dumb and stupid because he noticed that actually the Israelis are trying to intervene in the negotiations between the United States and Iran and that they are funding campaigns to do so.

00:46:30.400 I mean, Trump said it.

00:46:32.080 Yeah.

00:46:32.720 Trump's social media manager.

00:46:34.660 went on Joe Rogan and said this was happening,

00:46:38.160 but Ben Shapiro thinks this is absolutely terrible.

00:46:42.080 Right, okay, so he's attacking J.D. Vance

00:46:43.580 because he's not Israel first.

00:46:44.800 Because, yes, essentially, essentially.

00:46:47.360 And he's attacking him for trying to make a deal with Iran

00:46:50.000 after it was proven that, you know,

00:46:52.260 it's either going to be a deal or a ground invasion.

00:46:54.960 Nobody in the United States wants to die

00:46:56.560 in a ground invasion of Iran.

00:46:57.960 And there's not going to be a deal

00:46:59.280 unless it's on Iran's terms.

00:47:01.320 We've pretty much...

00:47:02.660 The war is lost.

00:47:04.040 We have, yep, no more options.

00:47:06.600 There never were options, and some of us knew it from the beginning.

00:47:09.480 Well, there are options.

00:47:10.660 They're just options that are just unthinkable.

00:47:12.480 I mean, there's going to be a massive ground invasion of Iran,

00:47:14.940 which I'm sure that America could do if it had the willpower to do it,

00:47:18.540 but there's just no way that the will's going to be summoned up.

00:47:21.060 And I'm not even sure.

00:47:23.560 I'm sure it could.

00:47:25.240 So on the right, there's a large faction on the right

00:47:27.660 that wants to think that the American military is still useless,

00:47:30.920 has become useless, sorry, has become decrepit.

00:47:32.620 And it's like, no, I don't think that's true.

00:47:34.860 You know, I think that you don't-

00:47:36.260 I think it's obsolete.

00:47:37.980 I don't know.

00:47:38.620 They're definitely not sending ground troops,

00:47:40.560 but I'm just, I've been amazed.

00:47:43.100 The only reason I'm hesitating to say,

00:47:44.620 yes, of course we can take it with ground troops

00:47:46.220 is I've been amazed at how powerful

00:47:48.340 their control of the Hormuz Strait is.

00:47:50.420 We have made Iran so much more powerful

00:47:53.220 than it was before the war.

00:47:54.620 So if it ends on these terms,

00:47:57.280 Iran is the number four power in the world.

00:47:59.500 Yep, good work, Trump.

00:48:01.760 That's where it ends.

00:48:03.220 And Ben Shapiro, you know, you guys ought to admit, we were right, you were wrong.

00:48:06.800 Yeah.

00:48:07.980 Potterets believes that Janie Vance is going to be posting pictures of Pepe, the anti-Semitic

00:48:14.860 Like Trump did in 2016.

00:48:17.160 Trump posted that already.

00:48:18.420 That's right.

00:48:19.320 That's right.

00:48:21.280 Because Vance noticed that actually Trump is the only guy, the only world leader who

00:48:26.240 still likes Israel.

00:48:27.260 That's true.

00:48:27.640 Yeah, I know.

00:48:29.120 And it's so obviously true.

00:48:31.400 Well, no, there's Millet as well.

00:48:32.840 Yeah, fair enough, there's Millet.

00:48:34.080 Isn't he like Netanyahu's cousin or something?

00:48:36.460 What?

00:48:36.820 I think Millet is Netanyahu's cousin.

00:48:37.920 No, there's a thing going around that Millet is also short for Melovich.

00:48:43.180 Oh, right, is that not true?

00:48:43.980 Which is Netanyahu's original last name.

00:48:45.960 That's fake news.

00:48:46.960 I think John Podhoretz is the main cause of anti-Semitism in the world.

00:48:51.620 Max Abrams says that Vance has ramped up his attacks on Jews

00:48:58.960 maybe he's listening to Nick Fuentes

00:49:02.580 like when when when when did that happen

00:49:05.120 yeah I don't know

00:49:06.200 where did that happen

00:49:07.620 what did he say that was an attack on Jews

00:49:10.220 I don't understand

00:49:10.980 and then Ben Shapiro again comes out against Vance

00:49:15.480 saying that he sounds like a Democrat

00:49:17.700 and he sounds like bernie sanders because he thinks of things like industrial policy and this

00:49:26.220 is the security system functional but this is inevitable you and i might have shared views on

00:49:31.380 ben shapiro treats america as if it is a a well of resources to be extracted yes this is when he's

00:49:37.720 saying oh you we're just gonna have to abolish retirement why do you want to sit around in your

00:49:40.980 old age not working anyway so I mean why because my back's broken yeah exactly I'm in my 70s and

00:49:47.640 I think maybe I've worked enough and so JD Vance again is concerned about the national principle

00:49:51.660 what is actually good for the people of the nation and Ben Shapiro for some reason doesn't

00:49:55.700 care about that yes uh other ridiculous attacks is that he sounds like Ro Khanna who's Ro Khanna

00:50:03.720 a leftist who actually worked with Massey to get wasn't he with the one working with Massey or was

00:50:10.300 someone else wait yes yes yes a senator a democratic senator um so apparently now

00:50:18.800 jd vance is a democrat no but i like the attack on this um catholic social teaching so you like

00:50:26.200 that i like the attack on it right okay so that james lindsey isn't completely wrong

00:50:31.420 don't tell him that rerum nevarum is widely misunderstood because it is just the idea

00:50:37.880 that there are mutual responsibilities

00:50:42.880 between capital and labor.

00:50:44.720 When you sort of look underneath it,

00:50:46.820 there are two-way responsibilities.

00:50:47.920 The popes have been pretty clear

00:50:49.140 that even John Paul,

00:50:52.540 that income inequality is sinful.

00:50:56.480 No, it isn't.

00:50:57.040 He hasn't said that.

00:50:58.240 Okay, there's a synonym to sin.

00:51:00.140 It's all pretty close.

00:51:01.020 I don't know.

00:51:01.540 Hold on.

00:51:02.200 And they all continue.

00:51:03.020 But with old papal statements,

00:51:04.300 never mind,

00:51:04.860 you need to parse them carefully

00:51:06.000 and you need to...

00:51:07.720 I read them yesterday for a brief anti-papist attack in my column.

00:51:12.180 The problem, though, is there is a genuine concern

00:51:17.160 about the exploitative and extractive nature of international capital, right?

00:51:22.760 Yes.

00:51:23.260 And the fact that it doesn't recognize that the people of the nation

00:51:26.840 have actually some claims that are outside of free market capitalism.

00:51:32.060 For example, we've got a real problem in this country

00:51:34.340 with the fact that a bunch of foreign governments own our public services

00:51:38.040 because of free market extremism.

00:51:40.920 Wait, what do you mean how?

00:51:42.120 Well, for example, we were like, oh, why don't we just sell the water companies?

00:51:45.840 Why don't we just sell the train companies?

00:51:47.580 Oh my gosh, you're like Russia.

00:51:49.820 Well, and then it was bought up.

00:51:51.880 1990s Russia.

00:51:52.760 Yeah.

00:51:53.160 What you're thinking of in terms of 1990s Russia fits perfectly on Britain.

00:51:57.460 On the sort of Thatcherite premise that, well, the free market will deal with them better.

00:52:01.940 And they were bought up by the state-owned companies of Italy, the Netherlands, Spain.

00:52:06.680 You're kidding!

00:52:07.420 And a bunch of industries were bought by state-sponsored capitalists of India in the steel industry.

00:52:14.660 Oh, good grief!

00:52:15.320 And chemicals bought by the Chinese and steel bought by the Chinese.

00:52:19.580 So it was genuinely destructive because these people have zero concern.

00:52:23.920 Right.

00:52:24.460 So now our train prices are the highest in the world.

00:52:26.400 The energy price is the highest in the world.

00:52:27.900 The water is awful.

00:52:28.980 They're constantly losing millions of liters of water.

00:52:31.300 Well, I'm all for protectionism.

00:52:32.660 Well, that's the point.

00:52:33.620 I like the tariffs.

00:52:34.320 And I think that's actually what Vance is trying to aim at.

00:52:37.040 Oh, I'm sure.

00:52:37.840 A bit of protectionism for the nation,

00:52:39.780 for the actual people of the nation.

00:52:41.120 Exactly.

00:52:41.800 But Lindsay is saying, no, actually,

00:52:43.280 you should just be an open buffet for the world's predatory capital.

00:52:46.160 Oh, these nutcase libertarians.

00:52:47.460 Yes, that's exactly what it is.

00:52:49.040 Thank you.

00:52:49.920 So he's not a nutcase libertarian.

00:52:51.380 He's the attack against them.

00:52:52.460 Right.

00:52:52.980 And we are in agreement.

00:52:54.260 No, I'm just selling J.D. Vance to me.

00:52:57.340 I know.

00:52:58.360 And here's the worst part about J.D. Vance.

00:53:02.020 He's not attacking the edgy right.

00:53:04.300 He's not attacking his own base.

00:53:06.080 He's not attacking his frontline potential shock troops.

00:53:10.940 He's not destroying his own vanguard.

00:53:13.140 Yes.

00:53:13.700 That's a terrible thing.

00:53:15.580 Rupert Rose gave the same attack now.

00:53:17.660 You should always attack your friends first,

00:53:19.920 then worry about your enemies.

00:53:21.280 Said no fucking general ever.

00:53:23.100 Yes.

00:53:24.720 That's a terrible thing, according to the Compact magazine.

00:53:28.280 Rod Dreher is going off on the same thing,

00:53:30.140 And apparently, J.D. Vance is repeating the mistake of Franz von Papen,

00:53:35.860 the guy who sort of got Hitler into power by trying to make a deal with Nazis.

00:53:40.300 Sorry.

00:53:41.140 Because we want more Nazi analogies now.

00:53:44.720 What the moment calls for, what's really going to resonate is a few more Nazi analogies.

00:53:50.500 Right.

00:53:50.640 So J.D. Vance isn't the Hitler.

00:53:52.240 Who's the Hitler?

00:53:54.300 Presumably Nick Fuentes.

00:53:55.580 Right.

00:53:55.920 Okay.

00:53:56.180 Presumably Nick Fuentes.

00:53:56.820 I can see that happening.

00:53:57.700 Yes.

00:53:57.940 yeah so um nick fuentes would have to walk outside the house for that to happen

00:54:04.420 i don't even dislike nick but come on man so jeremy boring and rodre are engaged in this

00:54:11.780 attack saying that really what jd vance needs to do is to disown more people on the right

00:54:17.060 see what i like about these guys is they seem he's not mid romney

00:54:21.840 damn him what i like about these guys they're so anachronistic aren't they it's like here's

00:54:26.500 Here's a philosophy from the 1980s when the great enemy was communism,

00:54:30.580 the giant communist bloc, right?

00:54:32.320 That made sense.

00:54:33.380 But actually, that ideology is one,

00:54:35.480 and now we are seeing the excesses of it now.

00:54:37.500 It is devouring the countries in which we live.

00:54:40.700 And J.D. Van's like, look, maybe we should stop it

00:54:42.320 from devouring our countries.

00:54:43.460 And they're like, well, we can't go back to the 1980s with this guy.

00:54:46.420 No, we can't.

00:54:47.300 No, we can't.

00:54:47.760 You're right.

00:54:48.320 You're absolutely right.

00:54:52.020 Who else has been going crazy?

00:54:53.600 Oh, yes.

00:54:54.840 Rod Dreher again.

00:54:55.800 don't have identity politics.

00:54:58.300 Don't have any preference for your own people.

00:55:01.500 The message is-

00:55:02.660 Wait, who is this?

00:55:03.940 This is some supposedly conservative commentator.

00:55:07.980 Who used to be liberal?

00:55:09.520 Gen X conservative.

00:55:10.480 Evan something.

00:55:11.480 Is it a girl?

00:55:13.080 Oh, Evan Barker.

00:55:17.360 I don't know her.

00:55:18.260 Yes.

00:55:18.740 Someone just told me I should interview her on my sub stack

00:55:21.880 and I looked into her and thought-

00:55:23.740 fair enough well she wrote don't you feel that about people who are you know i mean really like

00:55:32.540 working in liberal politics it's one thing i'm in college i'm a little liberal something but

00:55:37.100 she worked for kamala i think and obama and now she's seen the light and my thought is okay you

00:55:45.840 were wrong for most of your life but now i'm supposed to look at you like you know you're

00:55:51.180 Zarathustra we do believe in people converting into their minds they don't that's the thing

00:55:56.300 they should be listening to me not them listening to them but they don't they just they're liberals

00:56:02.260 up until the point of about 2012 right yes it's like they're no i agree with all of that i agree

00:56:08.060 with gay marriage i agree that you know millions of immigrants come in and become americans just

00:56:11.600 like you you know like the the danny kruger heir to alfred the great position but they believe all

00:56:16.540 that except transgenderism and you know lgbtq or whatever it's like like man like i used to be a

00:56:23.400 liberal right and then i did like a few degrees on liberalism i was like oh right all of this is

00:56:27.360 wrong all of this is wrong and you know we need something that's that that doesn't begin as man

00:56:33.300 as an individual outside of society right because that's where liberalism begins and all of it from

00:56:38.560 that point on was as incorrect man has never existed outside of society you've always existed

00:56:42.800 in a tribe with a hierarchy and relations between people and that is the good and natural state of

00:56:48.200 man right until they get to that point the james lindsey's of the world's the rob drears of the

00:56:52.440 world's the evan whatever her name is until they come out and explicitly say that i don't want to

00:56:56.960 hear from them at all because you're just a libtard right you're a libtard who's not comfortable with

00:57:01.020 how far liberalism has gone but you're still just a libtard you're last year's libtard yeah exactly

00:57:05.280 you know and and don't get me wrong i imagine that jd vance has gone on a similar journey to

00:57:09.220 myself actually because he you know he was like you know comes up harvey's you know sort of

00:57:12.940 democrat leaning and then actually does some serious thinking about the issue you know becomes

00:57:16.740 a husband father and patriot and realizes oh no this is all gonna change that's where i've gone

00:57:22.520 that's the journey i've gone on and man you guess you're really far right by the end of it

00:57:26.680 if you start looking yeah you start thinking oh god a lot of this has to change last one

00:57:34.900 J.B. Vance a Groyper?

00:57:36.460 No, no.

00:57:37.240 J. Dimmy Vance.

00:57:38.460 Oh.

00:57:38.900 He's a dimmy.

00:57:39.520 He wants to submit to Muslims.

00:57:40.880 Oh, I'm sure he does.

00:57:41.780 The guy who converted to Catholicism secretly wants to submit to Muslims.

00:57:45.980 He's not King Charles.

00:57:46.880 And he's a Groyper who hates Jews.

00:57:49.900 Oh my gosh, his hatred of Jews over the Iran War.

00:57:53.860 So it's all retarded.

00:57:55.000 Now you see why I'm so happy Paul Singer is supporting him.

00:57:58.100 Right.

00:57:58.560 Fair enough.

00:57:59.080 He's at least smart.

00:58:00.000 I understand that money is needed in politics, especially America.

00:58:02.960 And also brains.

00:58:04.040 Fair enough.

00:58:04.480 Fair enough. But, you know, let's let's not forget that J.D. Vance actually gets very important things.

00:58:12.980 Like if Ukraine starts blowing up Russian tankers and Russian grain shipments, the whole food and fuel situation for the planet gets worse.

00:58:22.920 Yes. So he actually stepped in and made Zelensky stop doing that.

00:58:26.800 That's to his credit. He was always opposed to attacking Yemen because he knew that this wasn't going to work

00:58:32.960 and that it was going to end up with a war with Iran.

00:58:35.820 He got that absolutely right.

00:58:39.220 And he actually understands that cost of living matters.

00:58:42.620 That you need to give your people something.

00:58:45.740 It won't, if you don't, if they don't have any opportunities

00:58:49.220 and if you don't, they won't have any jobs,

00:58:50.880 they're going to look for some alternative.

00:58:53.040 Either you provide it or your competition does.

00:58:54.840 What's the name of that twat from Texas with the eyepatch?

00:58:57.440 Dan Gransher.

00:58:58.280 Thank you.

00:58:59.020 I saw him the other day tweet,

00:59:00.560 The only people who care about $20 burritos are communists.

00:59:03.900 And I was like, that's the stupidest thing.

00:59:05.480 This is why you lost.

00:59:06.700 Yeah, this is why you deserve to lose.

00:59:09.000 He's really short, by the way.

00:59:10.260 Is he?

00:59:11.020 Okay.

00:59:12.120 Fair enough.

00:59:12.560 I didn't know that.

00:59:13.860 The most damning thing I can say about someone.

00:59:17.400 But it's just really stupid to think, oh, yeah, young people,

00:59:20.600 why would they care about the cost of food?

00:59:23.180 I know.

00:59:23.660 I know.

00:59:24.280 Yeah.

00:59:24.860 Unbelievable.

00:59:25.600 Yeah.

00:59:26.060 Yeah.

00:59:26.260 Yeah. So if you're going to critique J.D. Vance, focus on things that are relevant, that matter, that are legitimate.

00:59:34.400 And we can debate them. We can disagree about them.

00:59:36.640 And, you know, there's reason for concern, maybe less than you think, maybe more than you think, whatever.

00:59:42.280 But this has been completely freaking retarded.

00:59:45.600 No, you put up some real good ones.

00:59:47.720 I tried.

00:59:48.180 I'm beaut.

00:59:49.740 The question of the American dream must be quite fragile at this point if socialism is appealing.

00:59:55.120 Yes, exactly.

00:59:55.860 if young people that's a great point that's the only thing i can take from this if young people

01:00:01.220 in america are like yeah maybe socialism would help me out then the american dream is dead and

01:00:05.680 you need to fix it and it's dead because of mass immigration by the way it's dead because you let

01:00:09.360 millions and millions of people into your country it's dead because you let corporations run rough

01:00:12.700 shot i mean like i don't like the eu but one of the good things that eu does is actually hem in

01:00:16.620 the ability of corporations to exploit the countries that's good it's it's actually a good

01:00:21.100 thing and you know as much as i hate the eu uh that's one of the few things they do i don't know

01:00:25.300 why america's food is terrible right like this you've got rfk going on we're gonna make america

01:00:30.380 healthy against okay are you the government like legislate literally make it i know i he needs a

01:00:36.020 little more pedal to the metal he got rid of a few things but i totally totally support him on that

01:00:41.120 i mean you walk around american food is awful well it's so bad it's sugar sugar sugar sugar and thus

01:00:47.880 Oh, and additives.

01:00:48.980 Obesity.

01:00:49.680 All these other things as well.

01:00:50.860 And carbs, because of our government's food pyramid

01:00:54.960 that got it exactly upside down.

01:00:57.540 You know what?

01:00:58.040 I don't agree with that.

01:00:58.700 Because if you look at the Mediterranean's,

01:01:00.460 they eat tons of carbs, right?

01:01:02.160 It's the ingredients.

01:01:03.560 Vegetable carbs.

01:01:05.020 Well.

01:01:06.180 Bread.

01:01:06.560 No, pasta.

01:01:08.060 Fish, nuts.

01:01:09.280 They're not that big on the pasta stuff.

01:01:11.360 They are.

01:01:12.020 They love their pasta.

01:01:13.360 Well, that's Italians.

01:01:14.500 We're more.

01:01:15.220 Well, sure.

01:01:16.080 But like.

01:01:16.620 Mediterranean is more Greek.

01:01:17.880 food well well the greeks are more so outside of italy nobody eats pasta yeah but they eat loads

01:01:23.180 of bread and like in a nutshell yeah but they eat loads of bread they eat loads of stuff like

01:01:27.980 you know yes there's tons of carby food and mediterranean food it's not it's not it's not

01:01:32.580 that i i think it's the ingredients in american food because whenever i go to america man i look

01:01:37.480 you go into a shop it's amazing it's just crazy and you're like i don't know what any of these

01:01:41.580 things are you go to a british one or a european one and it's just that you know what's what's in

01:01:46.020 this is wheat and flour or whatever you know like right nothing to it well your strawberries here

01:01:51.280 took me by storm it's all i've been talking about and so i well i looked it up i thought i didn't

01:01:57.620 like strawberries and then i have british strawberries oh my gosh they're unbelievably

01:02:01.260 so i looked up why why they're so much better here and um and this probably explains all the

01:02:08.080 ingredients we're transcontinental nations so the food once it's picked they have to do something

01:02:14.380 to it though they pick strawberries early for example and the moving like bread across the

01:02:19.080 country they put all this stuff in to preserve it but and with you guys we get it you know the

01:02:24.220 farm is right there and then in the grocery well i mean a lot of our if you go to our supermarkets

01:02:28.460 it's still the same sort of global chains so a lot of our food will come from like spain or wherever

01:02:32.600 but the the eu has regulations on the kind of things you can put on the food and i really think

01:02:37.760 that like i've seen so many people complain about american bread come to europe and eat bread and

01:02:41.840 Oh, I can actually eat this without doing my stomach in.

01:02:44.640 Because I think there's genuinely a bunch of stuff that's put in American food

01:02:47.640 that's really bad for you.

01:02:48.720 And it's just, it's insane how like full of calories it is as well.

01:02:52.000 Like whenever I go to American food.

01:02:52.960 Sugar, sugar, sugar.

01:02:55.000 That's what you need to look for.

01:02:56.380 Things that, like salad dressing.

01:02:58.240 Yeah.

01:02:58.700 We got a salad dressing the other day and it sounds like such,

01:03:01.660 I'm sorry, this is probably so boring.

01:03:03.320 No, no, no, no.

01:03:03.780 It seems like the healthiest salad dressing you can get.

01:03:07.000 First ingredient was sugar.

01:03:09.200 you know i went to i went to disneyland in florida a few years ago right and i was really

01:03:14.340 trying to watch my weight and so we go to just some restaurant i'm like i've got a salad i looked

01:03:18.480 at the salad menu salad 1200 calories how is that possible like how is it possible that lettuce

01:03:25.760 and tomatoes are 1200 calories like gee okay mad anyway let's let's let's move on um because i

01:03:32.840 wanted to i wanted to end with uh a nice thing about trump right because i haven't actually

01:03:37.680 been following um american politics that closely recently um because it's been exciting it's been

01:03:44.100 full-on and a lot of things have been happening in britain at the moment one of the few things

01:03:48.340 in britain right it's really insufferable because like you could decades and decades with nothing

01:03:52.920 happening like it's all locked up and then suddenly everything starts moving and so it's

01:03:57.160 oh my god something's happening so it actually gets exciting um but actually i i thought i'd

01:04:01.800 you know since we had an american guest coming out what's trump been doing and actually he's

01:04:05.340 been doing a good job on immigration and i'm jealous deeply deeply jealous yeah because it's

01:04:10.940 it's one of those things that i mean in america it's probably less painful because of the scale

01:04:14.920 of america so you know you don't you know if you don't live in minnesota you don't see the somali

01:04:19.100 colony right um whereas in britain everything's a lot more cramped we're one of the most densely

01:04:24.200 populated places in the world so you know immigration is actually the most counterintuitive

01:04:29.540 thing you would think of right um but trump's actually doing a great job so we'll we'll have

01:04:33.720 look at how he's done you still have a lot of places that are all white european we pretty much

01:04:39.460 some so the cities are pretty much gone here yeah but even then like it's not just the city i thought

01:04:44.720 london was amazing or think it's amazing and it's one of the whitest cities i've ever seen

01:04:50.500 we know the numbers is not well but you're talking about and i know it's part of london

01:04:56.220 but the outer boroughs where you're thinking tourist isn't gonna go right i feel so safe

01:05:02.140 walking i can walk around at night alone i would not recommend in new york i can't do it anymore

01:05:08.160 i wouldn't be in new york either but uh yeah no london is about a third white english at this

01:05:14.400 point okay but you're talking about those i mean not that i'm not dismissing them you ought to you

01:05:17.920 ought to get them back but it's not where i'm you can walk for two hours i would say across the part

01:05:24.300 of london i go to so i'm not talking about you know just like mayfair well um all the ones we've

01:05:30.720 You've heard of Belgravia, Mayfair, Soho, Chelsea.

01:05:34.720 Right, yeah.

01:05:35.440 Piccadilly Circus, Trafalgar.

01:05:37.100 You go Big Ben across the river where Old Vic is.

01:05:41.000 So you could walk from Old Vic to the Mandarin Oriental.

01:05:44.840 That would take more than an hour.

01:05:46.520 Sure.

01:05:46.980 Probably 90 minutes minimum.

01:05:48.760 That's probably one of the richest areas on the earth.

01:05:52.860 And it's lovely.

01:05:54.220 And you're right.

01:05:55.000 It is lovely.

01:05:56.300 I'll give you that.

01:05:58.300 That's true.

01:05:59.020 Did you see the pickpockets on the bridge or did you miss them?

01:06:03.340 The concentration of wealth there is very high.

01:06:06.460 Yes, it just happens to be beautiful.

01:06:08.740 But that's not most of London.

01:06:10.740 So anyway, before we go on, get your copy of Island 6.

01:06:13.800 Would you like a copy of Island 6?

01:06:14.800 Yes, I would.

01:06:15.620 There you go.

01:06:16.120 Thank you.

01:06:16.660 It's the most right-wing magazine you'll ever find.

01:06:18.040 Yeah, you guys mentioned some things and I thought, whoa.

01:06:21.060 Take a copy.

01:06:21.800 It's really good.

01:06:22.460 I know because I wrote it myself.

01:06:24.140 Anyway, so Trump, the thing about immigration into America

01:06:29.160 is that it's actually more explicitly stated

01:06:32.220 what the purpose of immigration into America is.

01:06:35.120 In Britain, it's, oh, well, we need to support the NHS, right?

01:06:38.260 We need to pay for the pay.

01:06:39.380 Oh!

01:06:40.180 In America, it's, we need to destroy the white majority.

01:06:43.500 Well, they've pretty much done it.

01:06:45.460 Yeah, well, they have.

01:06:46.420 Muslim communities, but African communities, Asian communities,

01:06:49.360 Hispanic communities, and the wave still continues.

01:06:53.600 it's not going to stop nor should we want it to stop as a matter of fact

01:07:00.100 it's one of the things i think we can be most proud of so uh so there's a second thing in that

01:07:07.960 black box an unrelenting stream of immigration non-stop non-stop folks like me who were

01:07:18.040 Caucasian of European descent for the first time in 2017 will be in an absolute minority

01:07:24.920 in the United States of America. Absolute minority. Fewer than 50 percent of the people

01:07:31.380 in America from then and on will be white European stock. That's not a bad thing.

01:07:39.480 That's a that's a source of our strength. That was former President Joe Biden.

01:07:43.600 I always claim the country started to go down when we got the Irish immigrants around 1800.

01:07:54.020 I consider them our recent immigrants.

01:07:56.880 Yeah.

01:07:57.440 Yeah.

01:07:57.840 Well, I'm joking about that.

01:08:00.960 It was all from 1604, 1636, whenever the Mayflower came over, up until about 1970.

01:08:08.680 The country was 90 percent, 88 percent British Isles, Dutch, German.

01:08:18.700 Northwestern European.

01:08:19.480 Few French, few Germans.

01:08:21.080 No, lots of Germans.

01:08:22.260 And then, of course, West Africans.

01:08:23.960 That was about 10 to 15 percent.

01:08:28.080 That's several centuries.

01:08:29.900 and we built the country we really didn't need any immigrants they just all right came in and

01:08:36.840 and joined but we were going enterprise we were the greatest country in the world

01:08:41.380 the food oh yeah i know i know i know if you want to tell her about pierce morgan no let's not well

01:08:48.720 that well that guy whose daughter was was beaten and raped and murdered what's her name molly kibitz

01:08:55.140 out in Iowa, left in Cornfield, he said in response to it,

01:09:00.060 yes, but they bring good Mexican food.

01:09:03.940 You know, I remember a few years ago having a conversation

01:09:07.260 with an American friend and explaining we don't have Mexicans in England, right?

01:09:10.660 And it's because we don't have a 6,000-mile border with Mexicans.

01:09:13.120 Yes.

01:09:13.900 And he was just like, you don't have Mexicans in England.

01:09:16.300 It was just like, I can't imagine a country without Mexicans in it.

01:09:20.400 It's like, I can't imagine a country with Mexicans in it.

01:09:23.260 Like, why would you?

01:09:24.500 Anyway.

01:09:25.240 You're geographically lucky.

01:09:27.020 Well, yes, that's true.

01:09:29.540 But I find native English speakers being forced to learn Spanish as an indignity.

01:09:35.920 So do I.

01:09:36.960 It's terrible.

01:09:38.120 No, as an Englishman, I can't even imagine it,

01:09:39.620 because the English interaction with Spain was just beating them in wars repeatedly.

01:09:43.620 Right.

01:09:44.280 Over and over.

01:09:45.840 And so they have to learn our language.

01:09:47.880 We don't have to learn their language.

01:09:48.720 What are you doing?

01:09:49.820 Why are you learning Spanish?

01:09:51.480 Anyway, this attitude is just perennial on the left, right?

01:09:55.940 This is Van Jones, former CNN anchor, explaining...

01:10:00.000 Also a friend of mine.

01:10:01.280 Oh, is he?

01:10:02.020 Okay, well, get him to explain this.

01:10:03.700 The ask for the white majority to do something is difficult.

01:10:07.400 And I think it would be easier if we just acknowledge that it's difficult.

01:10:11.600 No ethnic majority group in 10,000 years of human history that I could find

01:10:16.060 ever went from being a majority to being a minority and liked it and that's basically the

01:10:22.360 request from the racial justice left is that we want the white majority to go from being a majority

01:10:30.240 to being a minority and like it that's a tough request and the reality is so i mean that is

01:10:39.280 incredibly explicit he's incredibly honest if only they had been that honest 20 years ago we might

01:10:44.900 have stopped it. It's mad, isn't it? But they lied about it and they lie about it today. This

01:10:49.740 whole replacement stuff as on one hand, they're bragging about how we're replacing you. And then

01:10:55.840 how dare you say that replacement is a conspiracy theory. You got to get your stories straight,

01:11:01.060 liberals. Yeah. And, and they, they, they like to try and hide behind, oh, you're saying it's

01:11:05.580 Jews. And I mean, Joe Biden and JD and, um, what's his face here on? Um, so I don't know

01:11:11.400 what you're talking about no i know this is just the explicit ideological platform of the left

01:11:15.760 it is to destroy the majority white countries of the west in order that we might not have our

01:11:21.200 own countries in the future now why do you think people ask me this why do what is the psychology

01:11:26.200 do you think behind i mean yes they definitely hate white european countries especially the ones

01:11:32.500 that are part of the british empire and by the way thank you very much um why is that what is

01:11:38.940 with them i could it's genuinely religious well no demonic then yes well it's i i think

01:11:46.560 let me try well you go first but i think mine's worse okay

01:11:51.320 basically these guys when they lost faith they decided that the perfect victim is any migrant

01:12:02.980 that it is whites exclusively who are afflicted with original sin

01:12:08.160 and that essentially assimilating the rest of the world

01:12:13.780 into the Western societies or bringing them in,

01:12:19.600 that is their version of salvation.

01:12:23.880 That is what delivers them redemption.

01:12:28.460 And you could see that it's patterned on Catholicism

01:12:31.580 because you have perfect victims

01:12:34.760 across all of these various alliance of losers,

01:12:38.820 shall we say.

01:12:41.340 They are, you know,

01:12:42.560 that's how Catholics think of Christ

01:12:44.340 as the perfect victim.

01:12:46.960 You have original sin,

01:12:48.740 racism, homophobia,

01:12:50.720 being developed,

01:12:52.840 whatever it is,

01:12:53.800 and all of that sin must be rejected.

01:12:56.380 You must atone for it.

01:12:57.520 You can draw the analogies.

01:12:59.380 Climate change is their eschatology.

01:13:00.740 They could just as easily, and I could do a much better religion, making any other ethnic group, including just generally non-whites.

01:13:09.180 I can find loads of original sin, way more original sin than the white man who's ended slavery, who builds stuff, who created indoor plumbing.

01:13:17.800 So the question is, and this is what you're going to answer, why do you choose this is going to be our sacrificial lamb and these are our victims?

01:13:27.600 It's a hatred.

01:13:28.540 There is a deep hatred for white people who have accomplished something.

01:13:31.960 I think it's because there's a bit in Hegel, right?

01:13:39.280 And I hate to bring up Hegel to begin this,

01:13:41.560 but he talks about the philosophy of recognition, right?

01:13:44.320 And one of the most important things,

01:13:46.600 and you'll hear this from the left all the time,

01:13:48.580 say, I see you, right?

01:13:50.180 They say, I see you, I recognize you, I see you, right?

01:13:52.700 And that is appealing specifically to this kind of pre-rational,

01:13:55.780 pre-political idea of recognition as a validation and a form of equality recognition of your status

01:14:05.560 and my status as i recognize this as equals and i think this is whether we like it or not

01:14:11.680 actually really important and normally recognition of importance is done in a kind of familial

01:14:17.300 setting right so there's no one more important to me than my wife and kids right so they don't ever

01:14:22.040 have to worry about this kind of equality of importance because they know that i literally

01:14:26.340 do everything i do every day to make sure they have a good future and make sure they're safe and

01:14:29.460 and happy um and so this idea of equality in recognition is actually a kind of old one right

01:14:38.700 who who belongs is about belonging right and so you could go back i mean like a lot of english

01:14:44.420 constitutional history seems to be about trying to get back to when we were ruled by anglo-saxon

01:14:48.840 kings so no no we just want these normans don't recognize us as being valid they don't recognize

01:14:53.760 what we actually want whereas like if you look at like alfred and ethelstan and stuff that that

01:14:57.560 feels like the right thing because the impression is we're being seen as the people that we are

01:15:02.600 right um so we don't need actual hierarchical equality that's nonsense what we want is an

01:15:09.040 equality of concern and consideration oh that's really well put have you written that up i haven't

01:15:13.760 Yeah, but at some point, um, but the, the, the problem is that he will never have that.

01:15:21.840 He will always be an outsider to our recognition of ourselves and how we value ourselves, because

01:15:27.840 this is something that operates within the people that we are and how we feel about one

01:15:33.240 another, right.

01:15:34.020 And about our communities.

01:15:35.580 And this is, this only matters because of the success of the Western European peoples.

01:15:43.760 If we weren't so good at creating things, if we weren't so good at organizing, conquering, like literally building civilizations out of dust, then they wouldn't be bothered by it at all.

01:15:56.360 But because we don't recognize them in the way that they see us from the outside, they have to look up at us and our civilizational accomplishment.

01:16:05.120 Well, at least in the case of black Americans and descendants of American slaves, I mean, they've been seen quite a bit by us.

01:16:14.060 And I don't mean in a bad way.

01:16:15.780 I mean, we have constitutional provisions, or we fight a civil war, they're part of us.

01:16:20.800 But all of that's an attempt to do something that can't be done through those means, right?

01:16:26.260 Because you don't need a special constitutional provision.

01:16:28.820 You just assume that the Constitution is written for you, but they don't assume that, right?

01:16:33.440 because they feel all those amendments are just for them yeah but but that's the point and i'm for

01:16:39.480 it i mean but of course but but that's the point but it won't satisfy them because they haven't

01:16:44.980 achieved it but no it's not just that but you having a constitutional provision just for them

01:16:49.140 is you drawing the distinction between us and them right it's you saying well well somebody else did

01:16:54.620 it before i came along sure you know what i mean right yeah and it's the same with the british and

01:17:00.300 their former imperial subjects right there's a huge amount of resentment for the prestige of

01:17:06.100 britain yes yes india yes and they view their sort of proximity to an ability to say rape an english

01:17:13.240 girl as a kind of absolution from the indignity of the past because britain was the the ruler over

01:17:20.740 the top of them and held them down for them it's about gaining a kind of recognition i can be

01:17:26.880 superior to a british person oh this is you got to write this and well it's i i will at some point

01:17:32.140 but it's it's it's it's it's a difficult thing to say because the point of immigration the point of

01:17:38.100 taking our countries away from us is preventing our ability to ever be in a superior position

01:17:42.320 again that's what i think it's all we're so nice i know that's why it's working that's why they can

01:17:47.820 do it because if we were just like any other country we i mean we would be taking quite

01:17:51.800 extreme actions against all the foreigners in our midst right no the angle this is any other country

01:17:56.440 The British Empire was the greatest thing that ever happened to the rest of the world.

01:18:01.420 I certainly think so.

01:18:02.320 But, you know, the Indians don't.

01:18:04.340 You know, they feel oppressed by it, which understandably so.

01:18:07.960 Well, I don't think they feel oppressed.

01:18:10.340 I think you're on to it when you say they feel envious.

01:18:13.100 When I say oppressed, I don't necessarily...

01:18:14.640 Yeah, yeah, sorry.

01:18:15.520 Not oppressed.

01:18:16.160 But that is...

01:18:17.480 That oppresses them psychologically.

01:18:19.720 Right.

01:18:20.300 They are looking at it and thinking, why can't we...

01:18:24.440 Why can't we...

01:18:25.940 You don't recognize me as an equal because of this history

01:18:28.860 that we have together.

01:18:30.040 And it'll be the same for, what's this, what's his name?

01:18:33.500 Van Jones.

01:18:34.000 Van Jones.

01:18:34.600 It's the same for this guy in regards to the white Americans.

01:18:38.160 It's the same for the foreigners with us.

01:18:39.740 And it's because of the respective-

01:18:42.040 But with Biden.

01:18:43.000 Harry.

01:18:44.060 Well, Biden being Irish.

01:18:46.040 Yeah.

01:18:47.040 That's when it all fell apart.

01:18:49.540 Saying the Irish-

01:18:50.420 It isn't because it's Irish.

01:18:52.340 Why do you think that?

01:18:53.220 i say he literally came out and said that the english rule of thumb was you could get beat

01:18:58.860 your wife with a stick that's nonsense rule of thumb is a measurement for construction

01:19:02.920 it's not the did he say that he said that he said we have to get away from anglo common law

01:19:08.440 because they allowed them to beat the wife with a stick and it's like no we didn't

01:19:12.480 we never allowed that that rule of thumb the beating wife thing that's the islamic one

01:19:17.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:19.240 Literally, literally it is, you know.

01:19:21.480 I know.

01:19:22.400 But him saying something is the most progressive left-wing lunatics

01:19:27.800 because he, as we now know, he was a cipher for all of their ideas.

01:19:32.680 Yes, yes, yes.

01:19:33.780 And, like, again, I don't know, man.

01:19:37.020 Like, if you look at, like, all of the talking heads in this country,

01:19:41.660 James O'Brien, Piers Morgan, they're all Irish.

01:19:45.140 Really?

01:19:45.600 Yes.

01:19:46.220 Irish are very good on TV.

01:19:47.960 Yes, because Morgan is Irish.

01:19:49.220 Morgan is a Celtic name.

01:19:50.560 Yeah.

01:19:50.920 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:19:51.580 It's not an Anglo name.

01:19:52.540 In America, it's basically, it may have changed.

01:19:55.700 Nobody watches regular TV anymore.

01:19:57.860 It was all Jews or Irish.

01:20:00.280 Sure.

01:20:00.940 And I think it's because Irish in particular,

01:20:04.620 they're very charming and talkative.

01:20:07.440 Yes.

01:20:08.400 They're very good for things like that.

01:20:10.660 Yes.

01:20:12.180 They've got a very good verbal IQ, don't they?

01:20:13.780 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:14.660 and Gabby

01:20:16.940 seriously

01:20:17.440 next time

01:20:18.720 just literally

01:20:19.280 whenever you see

01:20:20.000 some lefty commentator

01:20:21.680 in Britain

01:20:22.120 who's just like

01:20:23.140 oh no actually

01:20:23.700 it's not good for the English

01:20:24.620 to have their own country

01:20:25.360 just see if he's Irish

01:20:27.200 I'm not even joking

01:20:28.440 and I'm not saying

01:20:29.220 that all Irish people

01:20:29.880 are bad or anything like that

01:20:30.780 that's a different take

01:20:31.700 on the early life section

01:20:32.540 but James O'Brien

01:20:33.300 is just the poster boy

01:20:35.120 of this

01:20:35.360 sorry

01:20:35.520 it's internal British politics

01:20:39.100 but anyway

01:20:39.740 the point is

01:20:40.520 I think that

01:20:41.080 our Irish by the way

01:20:41.980 are basically indistinguishable

01:20:43.500 I'm just joking

01:20:44.500 about this sure but ours aren't right right because yours didn't leave and come yeah they

01:20:50.840 they are but also they they have been here for a very long time right they're like whereas you

01:20:56.680 know your irish find themselves in contradistinction to the blacks right and they're like okay am i

01:21:00.580 white or am i right whereas we don't have that or we didn't have that here so our irish were

01:21:05.480 always treated kind of like your blacks actually you know they were kind of like the servant class

01:21:09.740 right so there's it's it's it's a long story and i don't want to get into it now but anyway

01:21:14.700 um ingrained but the point is i think that the desire of the left to tear down western countries

01:21:21.420 demographically is to prevent this kind of um superiority of organization to make them feel

01:21:28.380 that you're just as benighted as we are okay well i don't really want that actually uh so anyway the

01:21:33.880 reason i was talking about all of this is because trump has actually been doing uh some good things

01:21:38.340 about this so trump you remember that he began in january with uh an emergency like look there's

01:21:43.800 an emergency complete crackdown uh we have to we have to deal with this problem um because it is

01:21:50.120 actually destroying the country he's never explicitly said it to be about demographics

01:21:53.520 but you can't remove it from the context that it's in right all of the left are saying and we

01:21:59.840 want to destroy demographics therefore mass immigration anyone pushing back on that is by

01:22:05.280 virtue of what he's doing, pushing back on the demographic destruction of Americans in the United

01:22:10.000 States. So, and I, I refuse to, I mean, Trump maybe because he's a boomer doesn't think like

01:22:15.540 this, but I think JD Vance probably got some sort of, you know, cognizant, you know, cognization of

01:22:21.720 that. Anyway, so he's done loads of stuff and I'm actually just going to lead, just read a bunch of

01:22:26.740 things, right? So that first day was pretty great. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. He's done

01:22:32.180 loads of stuff so you know he's declared a national emergency at the border uh all of the

01:22:35.520 military to support the enforcement of it constructed additional barriers i don't know

01:22:39.340 how far that's really gone um but the order of the detention rather than the catch and release system

01:22:44.060 is much better and this has actually worked and i mean this goes on forever and i'm not gonna

01:22:49.040 have time to read it right there's loads and loads of stuff actually loads of stuff but what

01:22:53.300 it's amounted to is uh 15 straight months of um zero illegals released into the united states

01:23:01.680 That's amazing.

01:23:02.700 But we need to deport them.

01:23:04.180 Sure.

01:23:04.800 Fast.

01:23:05.420 Yeah, I agree.

01:23:06.360 Mass.

01:23:07.060 One of the best things he did,

01:23:09.940 and my friend was just making fun of me one day

01:23:12.520 and asked what I liked about Trump,

01:23:14.720 and there was like a 20-minute silence as I was thinking.

01:23:17.960 So I thought of one.

01:23:20.220 One of the best things he's done on immigration

01:23:22.240 is offer illegals $1,000 and a free flight home.

01:23:26.520 Sure.

01:23:27.040 We're getting a lot to leave that way.

01:23:29.340 I'm always moderated about them just coming back.

01:23:31.680 I know.

01:23:32.840 But I tell you, your clip where you, remember,

01:23:35.640 I can't remember what stage you're on.

01:23:37.180 They're like, who do you think is most likely to win?

01:23:38.500 And you're like, Donald J.

01:23:39.140 And they were laughing at you.

01:23:39.860 And I'm like, man, that aged so well.

01:23:43.340 So well.

01:23:44.100 It's like, no, you all laugh now.

01:23:45.680 You know, you can see it on your face.

01:23:46.700 It's like, okay, I'm not taking this back, you know,

01:23:48.540 because you were so correct about that.

01:23:50.260 All on immigration.

01:23:51.980 Yeah, exactly.

01:23:52.960 That was two days after he announced.

01:23:54.900 That's interesting.

01:23:56.000 That's really interesting.

01:23:56.680 So anyway, they've gone from, I mean, literally under the Biden administration,

01:24:02.480 there were 6.7 million encounters at the southern border.

01:24:06.380 This has gone down to about 9,000 a month.

01:24:09.060 And these are not just released into America.

01:24:10.820 Right.

01:24:11.500 Detained.

01:24:12.020 Whereas, you know, these encounters a lot of them were just shoved in anyway.

01:24:14.580 So that is a massive, massive reduction.

01:24:17.800 He's also tried to end birthright citizenship, which I think is...

01:24:21.140 Yes, I agree.

01:24:22.080 ...a huge draw for immigrants into America.

01:24:25.080 It's like, look, we're pregnant.

01:24:25.900 We're going to go over there.

01:24:26.460 I mean, we we currently have an anchor baby as our leader of our conservative party because we had birthright citizenship until 1981.

01:24:34.680 We don't have birthright citizenship. The Supreme Court was completely wrong.

01:24:39.900 Well, five to four. And it was the three liberals and the two we conserved.

01:24:44.820 I mean, any it was driving me crazy that I write about where it came from.

01:24:48.640 comes from a Justice Brennan footnote in an opinion from like 1983. It was never ruled on

01:24:56.520 by the Supreme Court. It was never passed by Congress. In any event, I wrote about it in

01:25:01.960 Adios America. And oh my gosh, watching the conservative station, Fox News, all their

01:25:07.440 legal commentators, he's trying to overturn the 14th Amendment. It's going to be 9-0.

01:25:12.880 So I'm angry that the Constitution was in fact not upheld. It was about freed slaves and freed

01:25:18.440 slaves only um but five to four when the three justices who are always wrong are on the other

01:25:26.260 side ha ha you guys were wrong so why are you joining the liberals i don't understand barrett

01:25:33.320 and i don't understand um roberts well roberts especially actually i know i know that was a

01:25:40.780 shock he's a genuinely inexplicable character i know i don't know what is going on there

01:25:45.260 but he does this kind of thing all the time he's always unreliable i keep claiming he's either

01:25:51.240 being blackmailed or he's worried about democrats getting in and packing the courts and he wants to

01:25:58.140 no i can be reasonable and you know you just want to call him up and say they're gonna pack the

01:26:03.120 courts anyway then no no kind gesture on your part is gonna help anyway for the sake of time

01:26:11.140 sorry i didn't realize what the time was um he's he's done pretty good uh so yeah overall the

01:26:15.760 numbers have been pretty great uh he's cracked down on um visas birthright citizenship there we

01:26:22.020 are uh suspension of visas to foreign countries which is great um this is just legal visas about

01:26:27.920 46 percent of all immigrant visas that were issued last year just halved so this is great

01:26:34.200 uh really really good start uh he tried to put the uh 100k fee on the h1bs and that's been

01:26:40.080 overturned by a court but who knows all of this is steven miller by the way i know yeah i was

01:26:44.920 gonna get to that i want him to be president i don't know if i want to be president i think

01:26:49.160 the president has to have a kind of um gravitas yeah not seem like dracula on tv right now i i

01:26:57.240 that's the downside and i say this is steven miller's biggest fan right he's the evil vizier

01:27:04.280 that's fine everyone needs a hatchet man everyone needs the lieutenant to do the dirty work uh he

01:27:09.380 used to just be jd vance's vizier yes anyway so yeah and then we've got like the uh the travel

01:27:14.040 bans right so there are travel bans from all sorts of countries you just would not want people

01:27:18.600 from there are full and partial bans depending on and then he began restricting just all legal

01:27:24.040 categories so this is just great just absolutely great completely restricting now forbes are like

01:27:30.040 well this is going to harm the economy guys oh no oh no my 20 burrito

01:27:36.680 there's gonna be a loss of 19 million workers but a worker years sorry by 2028 which sounds

01:27:47.480 brilliant to me and the brookings institute which is the liberal institute are like wow for the

01:27:52.540 first time pretty much ever they care they care yeah but they also like that for them it's like

01:27:59.680 oh this is terrible but for me this oh this is brilliant they think that america in 2025 had net

01:28:04.540 net negative immigration of somewhere between minus 10,000 to nearly minus 300,000 people in

01:28:10.780 that year. Now that's not that many compared to the scale of America's immigration. And how many

01:28:16.380 Biden brought in, like 20 million. But it's the first time ever that you've stepped in the right

01:28:22.820 direction. And if you could just keep stepping in that direction, maybe in like 20 or 30 years,

01:28:27.680 America can actually return to looking like something like you remember when you were a girl

01:28:30.840 when you were a young kid and that is at least a good start that is something so you know there

01:28:37.780 are lots of things chris size trump over but actually he seems to have done the work yes

01:28:41.680 so good yes uh we are about out of time there so and uh thank you so much for coming on where

01:28:48.620 can people find more from you and coulter.substack.com um rumble i just started rumble and so i guess

01:28:56.940 they also go on youtube i originally didn't sign up for it because i told the guy who was setting

01:29:01.100 up my sub stack well they're just going to throw me off right my father so um rumble i do a video

01:29:08.380 every week i have a buffo column and i highly recommend this week's column also available at

01:29:12.800 anncoulter.com but at sub stack you can leave comments great well thank you for joining us

01:29:17.720 and we'll see you want to know what the column is about oh sorry yeah go on sorry i just

01:29:21.340 occurred to me that your audience needs to hear this it's about how you're so much better off

01:29:25.840 than we are on immigration.

01:29:27.480 That's all.

01:29:29.780 That's a debatable point, but...

01:29:32.000 She makes a good case.

01:29:33.340 I'll listen to it.

01:29:34.400 Anyway, thanks for joining us, folks,

01:29:36.060 and we'll see you tomorrow.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - August 20, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1488

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