The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1502

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1502 for Wednesday the 9th of

00:00:06.520 September 2026. I'm your host Luca joined today by Beau Harry and Senior Fellow for Policy at

00:00:13.040 Restore Britain Harrison. Thank you for joining us Mr Pitt. We're glad to be here Jim. As always

00:00:17.320 no thank you and today we're going to be talking to you all about the escalating tensions between

00:00:23.660 the Anglos and the Israelis and how you think there's something to it that people haven't been

00:00:29.720 reading into uh well i think not in netanyahu's gearing up to be thrown under the bus on the

00:00:35.960 world stage that might be something that's about to happen i'll be interested to hear this take

00:00:40.320 yeah okay in time for christmas i know uh then we're then going to be talking about the

00:00:46.180 vandalization of london and paris and then we're going to be concluding by talking all about the

00:00:51.240 nancy grace roman space telescope interesting new bit of kit so we can stare at the cosmos

00:00:57.480 i thought i'd do uh once in a blue moon i'd try and do a white pill wednesday right reviving that

00:01:02.840 concept from really early on white pill wednesday try and do something i obviously didn't get the

00:01:07.800 memo with my segment just occasionally i do things about space or science and technology and stuff

00:01:12.440 don't i so um i don't usually do all that well in terms of clicks but uh i think they're interesting

00:01:17.480 so and the people that do like them really like them so space telescopes there you go it's your

00:01:22.840 day if you're a telescope fan anyway with that all said then harry over to you sir all right then so

00:01:28.880 yesterday there was discussion uh that was covered on the podcast uh about israeli uh minister that

00:01:34.820 being the um ever delightful ever charming quite the look at itamar ben gavir uh being very angry

00:01:41.760 at britain for proposing sanctions against israel saying that he came out in support of argentina's

00:01:47.920 claim on the Falklands and Dan went into detail on whether or not Argentina would actually be able

00:01:53.540 to do anything regarding the Falklands if they tried to take the territory, which he came to

00:01:59.440 the conclusion that they wouldn't. But this has escalated since then and developed, so here's

00:02:05.080 just the example of what Dan was talking about. The mouse is being a bit weird on me, so apologies

00:02:11.280 folks. Is somebody else playing with a mouse? Samson, are you playing with a mouse bet there?

00:02:14.960 no I hope not

00:02:16.720 this was what Ben Gavir said

00:02:19.000 it's time for the state of Israel to publicly recognise

00:02:20.980 that the Malvinas, the Falklands

00:02:22.420 are Argentine territory under occupation

00:02:25.260 which the British violently steal

00:02:27.300 from the Argentine people

00:02:28.960 the British are not content with merely occupying the territory

00:02:31.280 they also carry out oil drilling there

00:02:33.120 obviously he's trying to flip the rhetoric

00:02:35.160 that is used against Israel when it comes to

00:02:37.180 things like the West Bank and Gaza

00:02:38.820 settler territory and the

00:02:41.100 arguments there

00:02:42.000 but it's basically just like

00:02:44.680 a high-ranking member of the Israeli government

00:02:47.860 coming out in favour of one of our enemies' claims to territories.

00:02:53.200 How do you violently steal something that didn't have a population on it?

00:02:57.480 That's a great question.

00:02:58.760 People have been wondering this for years

00:03:00.540 in regards to, for instance, like South Africa

00:03:02.920 when the Dutch got there, but that's a question for another time.

00:03:06.440 We were the first people to land on those islands.

00:03:09.540 Itamar Ben-Gavir seems to have a very different conception

00:03:12.640 of territorial acquisition to you.

00:03:15.000 We landed on those islands.

00:03:15.960 Being that he is the head of the settler communities

00:03:18.720 in the West Bank, it makes sense that he's got a different idea

00:03:21.820 than you do.

00:03:22.320 Centuries before Argentina was a country.

00:03:25.760 What is he talking about?

00:03:26.760 What do you mean, stolen? 1.00

00:03:29.000 Silly git. 1.00

00:03:29.940 What is he talking about? 1.00

00:03:31.660 Nonsense, sir, nonsense.

00:03:33.600 These are all fantastic questions, yes, 0.89

00:03:37.220 but he's basically trying to...

00:03:38.280 Violently stole?

00:03:39.180 He's trying to egg on Argentina to invade the Falklands 0.67

00:03:42.180 with Israel's backing, which, of course, would not be the first time

00:03:47.220 that Israel backed Argentina against the British in a war over the Falklands,

00:03:51.560 given that Israel armed Argentina during the Falklands between the...

00:03:55.760 Also, sorry, Harry, can I say something else about that statement?

00:03:58.160 Please feel free.

00:03:59.120 Talking about the oil drilling, I was under the impression

00:04:01.680 that that oil field north of the Falklands,

00:04:05.180 it was a joint Israeli, British-Israeli operation.

00:04:09.160 But couldn't...

00:04:09.660 Is it not? I believe it is.

00:04:11.420 i don't know the specifics but if it's a joint israeli imagine the profits that could be made

00:04:16.520 from an entirely wholly israeli owned oil field instead if argentina who under javier malay have

00:04:23.360 really heavily aligned themselves with israel were to take the territory back he could just like

00:04:27.920 hand it over as a thank you note for them i'd imagine uh but yes during the actual argentina

00:04:33.240 the falkland war argentina was armed by israel between the 2nd of april and 14th of june 1982

00:04:39.540 to Israel sold Argentina air-to-air missiles, anti-personnel mines, anti-tank weapons,

00:04:44.540 replacement parts for jets, radar, and communications equipment, and fuel.

00:04:48.640 Nesha fighter jets supplied by Israel were part of the air attack that destroyed the RFA Sir Galahad in Bluff Cove.

00:04:55.400 56 British sailors and soldiers died in that raid.

00:04:58.540 What amazing allies these people turn out to be,

00:05:03.040 especially when you consider this was not the first kind of aggression against Britain that we've experienced from them,

00:05:08.380 given when you think back to the establishment of the state of israel itself part of it was

00:05:12.500 spurred on by terror performed by i remember by the was it the ergen terror group ergen uh where

00:05:20.900 in uh you know 1946 28 britons were killed at the king david hotel attack which was led by future

00:05:26.440 israeli prime minister menek and began who happened to be the one at the head of the israeli

00:05:31.200 government during these arms sales to argentina what amazing allies uh they turn out to be but

00:05:37.400 Why is it that Itamar Ben-Gavir, outside of just potentially engaging in Israeli traditions by this point,

00:05:44.840 why is it that he is specifically calling out Britain right now?

00:05:49.780 Well, it's because there was a lot of talk on whether Britain was going to sanction Israel,

00:05:55.100 potentially along with a lot of other countries.

00:05:56.860 This was the report that went on on Monday, on the 7th.

00:06:00.620 The announcement of potentially fast-tracking sanctions came one day after ministers set the schedule

00:06:06.780 for a by-election in Sir Keir Starmer's

00:06:08.960 I just wanted to mention this. Sir Keir Starmer's

00:06:10.840 former seat of Holborn and Sangpancras

00:06:12.600 where the Labour is under threat from the Green Party

00:06:14.600 May I just say like

00:06:16.100 F's in chat for Keir Starmer. He's just

00:06:18.740 like been completely forgotten already

00:06:20.820 He's not Prime Minister anymore and then he's

00:06:22.800 like, I retire, I'm going to live

00:06:24.740 by the seaside with my family 0.96

00:06:26.320 Screw you all, goodbye. 0.89

00:06:28.280 It's worth pointing out as well that 0.99

00:06:29.840 while I'm at, in the case of this

00:06:32.200 of the Labour Party, I'm sure there are all sorts of

00:06:34.500 electoral calculations that are being made

00:06:36.320 here that aren't simply

00:06:37.960 disinterestedly humanitarian and all the rest of it.

00:06:40.480 I'm sure we'll get to some of that, but it's also a very

00:06:42.300 misleading headline to say that

00:06:44.240 Burnham is fast-tracking sanctions on Israel

00:06:46.360 in total, because the whole point of the sanctions is that 1.00

00:06:48.360 they're targeted at these settler

00:06:50.500 communities. In the West Bank.

00:06:52.020 In the West Bank, and what's hilarious about that is

00:06:54.400 that it's been the official position of Western

00:06:56.440 governments, including the US government since Jimmy Carter,

00:06:59.140 that civilian settlements

00:07:00.520 in the West Bank are illegal anyhow.

00:07:02.400 As part of international law, as established

00:07:04.620 in the post-war era,

00:07:06.320 which was often spurred on by Jewish survivors of the Holocaust.

00:07:11.680 Alan Dershowitz thinks they're illegal.

00:07:13.760 Even Alan Dershowitz? Oh my goodness!

00:07:16.340 I just find the sort of descent into hysteria on this topic quite amusing,

00:07:22.340 given the long-established official policy of Western Americans.

00:07:25.320 And Olmert as well. The old Prime Minister, obviously President, even Olmert.

00:07:30.160 He says it's the same take, the same position he holds.

00:07:34.380 well even even within um the is like the israeli population um it is quite interesting when you

00:07:42.340 look into it there's a lot of factional infighting within israel itself it's not like it's some

00:07:46.920 unified state where everybody agrees on everything and in fact that i i've heard from people who

00:07:54.120 comment a lot on the zionist movement and israel itself from within israel uh talk of people

00:08:01.340 worried that Netanyahu himself is progressing a form of demographic change within Israel to

00:08:08.820 basically displace more secular Ashkenazi Jews with a lot more fundamentalist, religiously

00:08:15.760 fanatic Mizrahi and other types of more Arab-style Jews. He's basically like, to maintain his own 0.98

00:08:23.040 political coalition, this is what I've been reading up on and hearing a lot, he's basically

00:08:27.500 kind of like aligning himself with religious fanatics who have bases within like the more

00:08:32.540 third world-est parts of israel and apparently a lot of the ashkenazis within the country

00:08:38.300 are getting a little bit sore up on this because they feel that they're being replaced

00:08:42.000 i don't know anything about that um i they basically yeah it it serves um the long-term

00:08:50.000 electoral purposes of people like uh like netanyahu uh to make sure that there are fewer

00:08:55.100 woody allen's in israel and more ben gavir yes and within that ben gavir himself is mizrahi

00:09:00.420 he descends from mizrahi at least one mizrahi terrorist uh i think he's i think his mother

00:09:06.760 um please correct me if i'm wrong on that and he himself is you know the head of the settler

00:09:12.920 community within within the west bank which is mainly being done by like the ultra orthodox so

00:09:18.540 it does seem that like this whole faction a lot of it being pushed in the west bank seems to be

00:09:23.720 religious fanatics that Netanyahu has aligned himself with for the sake of securing his electoral

00:09:30.580 coalition. Which, again, is all related to why these sanctions have been fast-tracked regarding

00:09:36.640 the West Bank, because what happened was there was an Israeli government publication of a tender

00:09:42.020 for the construction of the E1 project just last week. The project will link Jerusalem with Mal

00:09:48.060 ad-Dumim, another existing 0.87

00:09:50.180 settlement in the West Bank, all but cutting off 0.51

00:09:52.120 Palestinian East Jerusalem from the rest

00:09:54.280 of the West Bank. Israeli sources

00:09:56.400 told the Telegraph they believe

00:09:58.240 the E1 project had been used as a pretext

00:10:00.160 for further sanctions that Labour already

00:10:02.200 intended to impose, probably

00:10:03.760 given the coordinated push with a number

00:10:06.180 of other governments, but still

00:10:08.200 it seems to have been

00:10:10.120 a rather silly thing for them to do if they thought

00:10:12.140 that these sanctions were coming ahead to give them

00:10:14.100 even more reason to do so.

00:10:15.900 I got in trouble with that this morning. Someone mentioned

00:10:17.880 the e1 project and muslims living in and around e1 i thought they're talking about east london

00:10:23.020 i thought i was talking about i thought i was talking about like white chapel and stuff

00:10:26.500 very quite embarrassing funny though why hence why i mentioned it again um yeah well one is very

00:10:31.980 strategic isn't it where they where the settlers are deciding to make entirely new settlements

00:10:37.420 very very strategic in order to they want to prevent to prevent a two any sort of two-state

00:10:44.080 solution from ever being possible isn't it well they just want to cut off the set like the west

00:10:49.520 bank from other parts of the west bank and sort of like further fracture it so and from east

00:10:54.040 jerusalem yes it's tantamount to demographic warfare and demographic subversion but i do

00:10:57.600 find it amusing uh that ed milliband all of a sudden thinks that demographic warfare and

00:11:01.540 demographic subversion amount to ethnic cleansing yeah oh yeah of course which is what he said in

00:11:06.260 his statement i wonder whether that might have um real world applications on our own case well 0.94

00:11:10.440 this is a peculiar thing isn't it that actually nobody's happy about this the palestine those who

00:11:15.980 support palestine are not happy because they think that it's weak and it doesn't go far enough

00:11:20.580 uh those who are obviously on the israeli side of sympathy uh are obviously against it because

00:11:26.440 they feel like the british state has just betrayed them and betrayed israel and those who don't give

00:11:31.840 a damn about the conflict and are merely english citizens looking for their own demographic security

00:11:36.580 in England are feeling again very very hot under the collar because you're seeing rhetoric being 0.96

00:11:42.040 granted to a foreign people that is all you have basically been pleading for from the establishment 0.99

00:11:47.240 just some genuine ethnic recognition and sympathy towards our current plight and so no one's happy

00:11:53.220 with how this currently stands. Well here's here's the rub with the fact that nobody's happy

00:11:58.140 Netanyahu prior to the 7th of October was already facing corruption charges his electoral coalition

00:12:05.000 uh was already under immense strain october the 7th actually served to grant his government a

00:12:11.660 little bit of legitimacy uh for a while longer because he like his government was going to fall

00:12:16.960 apart and he was going to be indicted for corruption essentially but all of this comes

00:12:21.500 when next month on the 27th of october you have the knesset elections so there's some that there's

00:12:30.680 a rub here that i think is going on that all of this is being timed potentially to exacerbate

00:12:37.840 the unpopularity of the netanyahu regime within israel as it stands right now uh because the

00:12:45.400 population within israel is probably thinking thinking to themselves netanyahu's dragged us

00:12:50.080 into a number of wars recently um he's throwing his weight around where he doesn't have the weight

00:12:55.620 to pull it off uh and alienated strategic allies he's alienated our strategic allies

00:13:01.540 and now the rest of the world hates us like under netanyahu since the 7th of october

00:13:07.100 anti-israeli feeling particularly among zoomers but among lots of other demographics as well

00:13:13.040 has exploded across the west and it's also going to be affecting those parts of the diaspora 0.54

00:13:17.740 population that exist within britain within america as well and i would imagine i would hope

00:13:23.420 the people within israel would feel the sort of like you know relationship with that diaspora

00:13:28.780 where they go like netanyahu is screwing all of this up for us and we've got the chance to vote

00:13:34.060 him out next month so we will actually vote him out and break up this coalition because at the

00:13:37.820 same time uh from what i was reading there's been the rise in a new centrist party within israel

00:13:43.820 that called the yasha who have a good chance of unseating netanyahu and this could also

00:13:49.820 potentially um wasn't it so was it not that ben gavir who's touted as the next leader um not that

00:13:57.020 i can tell oh okay um as far as i can tell he's a very very unpopular figure all right because

00:14:02.940 because everybody can go everybody can point him go that guy's absolutely insane i thought i thought

00:14:10.460 your angle might not be why would they get rid of netanyahu because of all the bad press effectively 0.93

00:14:16.060 he's brought but they're replacing with an even more obnoxious psycho oh but no it's not him it's

00:14:21.220 a completely different party a new a new party but um yes one that's risen up relatively recently

00:14:27.880 and it could also play into geopolitical strategic aims of america for instance by going like we've

00:14:35.160 had a ball and chain around our throats for years now they dragged us into iran earlier this year

00:14:42.720 they dragged us uh into a lot of things over the years and any but it seems to be a recurring

00:14:49.520 pattern any global leader that interacts with netanyahu for long enough ends up absolutely

00:14:54.780 hating netanyahu and smashing their head against the wall and so they might just be like you know

00:15:00.880 what you know what yeah sanction them go ahead sanction them we won't do anything about it oh

00:15:08.120 you're saying like france canada britain have got the green light from like rubio and trump

00:15:13.020 well just to act okay just to spoil it just to spoil it this is this is some reports that we saw

00:15:18.940 uh just earlier today i must admit rubio and the state department was very

00:15:23.140 weak in response to us saying stuff like this they didn't start going crazy they were like oh

00:15:29.180 okay if you think so trump basically he didn't oppose these these sanctions because of course

00:15:36.040 the sanctions uh just to get back to where i was in the segment uh they did go ahead ed milliband

00:15:41.240 has announced them uh there's been a number of psychotic responses from people like uh mark

00:15:47.300 levin saying so now our states can boycott the uk because we've got the what is it the um the the

00:15:52.800 bds uh we've got it so that you can't do the bds so therefore england we don't have to trade with

00:15:58.640 them we can boycott britain itamar ben gavir said oh we need to close the british consulate in east

00:16:04.020 jerusalem which they have and at the same time they've also there's another one in tel aviv though

00:16:09.540 isn't there which they haven't i think that's the embassy the consulate basically into interfaces

00:16:14.800 with the palestinian authority okay okay yeah but at the same time they also this is very amusing to

00:16:20.020 me because none of these people seem to have had really anything to do with the sanctions but

00:16:24.380 they did it anyway they banned a number of mps including jeremy corbyn zara sultana and then

00:16:30.380 diane abbott nez shah john mcdonnell and uh and then also hannah spencer from the green party

00:16:36.440 and a few others polanski not well he's not an np i guess oh yeah yeah yeah uh the israeli

00:16:41.220 government added that long-standing british involvement in the training of palestinian

00:16:44.780 security forces on the west bank would be terminated britain will also be excluded

00:16:49.020 from the u.s led gaza coordination coordination mission which is based in israel so israel is

00:16:55.100 no tony blair most affected yeah how will he ever become the shah of the territory now

00:17:01.960 um god emperor of the levant yeah tony blair

00:17:06.140 melanie phillips um born and raised in britain lives in israel uh has declared that uh the uk

00:17:13.940 is not only an enemy of the jewish people bear in mind that ed miller band who announced these

00:17:20.080 sanctions is himself jewish um but they're all we're also a threat to the west and a menace to 1.00

00:17:26.580 civilization she's a psycho isn't she yeah she's a bit of a she's a sucker what are you that's mad 1.00

00:17:32.400 yeah okay the tiniest bit of pushback and we're the enemy of the jewish people and a menace to 1.00

00:17:37.640 civilization really calm down love you're a nine we need you at like a four dial it back you think 0.96

00:17:44.760 Richard Wagner was Prime Minister or something.

00:17:47.560 It's crazy. 0.99

00:17:48.040 What a psycho. 1.00

00:17:49.020 Yeah. 0.99

00:17:49.600 Now, instead, we just have Morrissey, apparently.

00:17:53.020 Labour's...

00:17:53.580 And then we have Kemi Badenoch,

00:17:55.160 current leader of the Conservative Party,

00:17:56.980 writing for the Jewish Chronicle,

00:17:58.080 saying Labour's anti-Israel obsession

00:17:59.600 shows it hasn't changed since Jeremy Corbyn was leader,

00:18:03.880 which obviously is not the case. 1.00

00:18:06.760 What's a Nigerian person got... 0.98

00:18:08.660 What dog has she got in this fight? 0.99

00:18:09.760 That's always a relevant question in this...

00:18:12.360 when it comes to British politics.

00:18:13.640 she's a nigerian anchor baby what does she care why the other it always astonishes me how um our 0.97

00:18:18.440 own interests our own demographic interests at home are treated as effectively poisonous including 0.54

00:18:22.920 by by people like kemi badenock and the the whole political establishment in britain uh but the

00:18:28.360 demographic interests or not even the demographic interest but the kind of expansionist interests

00:18:33.640 of a foreign uh country uh are supposed to be treated as sacrosanct i read this um

00:18:39.080 I read this opinion piece by Kemi Baden-Ock.

00:18:41.500 It is just full of hot air and rhetoric.

00:18:44.300 No real analytical rigor is brought to bear upon the problem.

00:18:47.320 She just spends...

00:18:49.060 Really?

00:18:50.400 She probably didn't write it,

00:18:52.500 but she effectively tries to argue.

00:18:56.840 Look, there is some truth to what she says in the piece.

00:18:59.980 It is obviously the case that now that the Labour Party

00:19:03.520 is enjoying something of a burn and bounce, 0.84

00:19:05.880 They're keen to court back into the fold of the Labour Party Muslim voters who were leaving behind those political loyalties and exploring the Greens, even some of them exploring the Lib Dems and all the rest of it. 0.74

00:19:19.060 Andy Burnham is clear, electoral calculations are clearly a big part of why Andy Burnham and Ed Miliband have decided to fast track these sanctions. 0.77

00:19:28.820 but to treat sanctions of a foreign country as not just of a foreign country but sanctions of a

00:19:33.060 particular particularly contested bit of territory overseen by a foreign country it's not even

00:19:38.720 it's that that's that's wrong settlement trade bank is de facto boycott of the jurist state no

00:19:43.440 it isn't it's it's a boycott of a contentious part of the re of the region and it's it's a boycott on

00:19:49.700 what is produced like dates and all this sort of thing by by settler communities in in in the west

00:19:55.760 bank um it's what what think what that would mean in logical terms all of us so people who were in

00:20:02.220 favor of boycotting south africa does that make them guilty of anti-white blood libels people who

00:20:06.720 would who were in favor like the british government did of boycotting rhodesia when rhodesia made its

00:20:12.720 unilateral declaration of independence uh in the 1960s whatever else we might think of um the way

00:20:18.700 in which those i would have liked to think so states were demonized we we know that it would

00:20:23.380 not have been um kosher at the time for i didn't mean anything by that we we we know for a fact

00:20:31.580 that no one in a million years would have equated boycotting a foreign state with hatred of the

00:20:36.260 people who reside in that state and nor should it be and nor should it hold in this case it was a

00:20:40.480 very desperate attempt to try and uh demonize our political opponents and i do find it amusing how

00:20:45.040 quickly uh people who pose as to can be bad knock does as an opponent of identity politics

00:20:50.120 start sounding whiny like BLM as soon as a certain topic comes up yes but also as well

00:20:56.240 this um just commitment to this position as well certainly when you'd think that because right now

00:21:02.880 somehow uh the Tories are around you know 19 20 in the polls and you'd think to yourself right

00:21:09.640 what we need to do is restore trust with all of the people who have jumped ship to restore to

00:21:15.140 reform and actually it wasn't the issue of the conservative party's position on israel

00:21:21.760 that led to those people feeling betrayed and jump ship like it was quite the opposite it was

00:21:27.180 the fact that you're not addressing our demographic needs and yet none of that is ever going to come

00:21:32.640 through yes but outside of just our own domestic concerns regarding that and what you're talking

00:21:38.180 about with you know they want to shore up the labor electoral coalition uh get everybody back

00:21:43.220 on board for the party that's absolutely true but this has also been coordinated internationally

00:21:48.500 as well because it's not just britain as mentioned it's not even just france and canada it's also

00:21:53.000 alongside denmark finland france iceland ireland norway poland portugal spain and sweden as well

00:22:00.300 all coming out in support of this two-state solution uh with this joint statement that

00:22:04.360 was released yesterday uh with uh five points on it uh regarding uh regarding this action against

00:22:11.800 israel uh where they're basically saying anybody who isn't already signed up to these boycotts

00:22:17.300 will sign up to these boycotts and again as mentioned the interesting rub of this

00:22:21.620 isn't just that trump didn't oppose the uh sanctions um on the israeli settlement settlements

00:22:28.320 it's that in this article it discusses how behind the scenes andy it's not like this was surprised

00:22:33.600 like jumped on him he didn't get a surprise with it and then go oh well it's already done what we're

00:22:37.580 to do andy burnham briefed trump ahead of these sanction announcements two sources with knowledge

00:22:45.580 of the call said that trump did not push back or ask burnham to change course u.s officials told

00:22:51.340 their british counterparts they shared their concerns about the netanyahu government's west

00:22:55.180 bank policy even if they disagreed with these specific sanctions according to sources so far

00:23:00.620 the only major u.s figure who seems to have really pushed back against it in any hard way is mike

00:23:07.020 huckabee and even then the white house and the government have said well that's him yes he struck

00:23:14.860 i mean they've actually said that that's interesting they've distanced themselves from

00:23:17.980 his comments i didn't know they'd said that because i i i i suspected that he was merely

00:23:21.820 going out on a limb people forget trump was at a press conference with netanyahu i think in 2017

00:23:27.020 2018 during his first term in which and in the course of that press conference trump in his sort

00:23:32.540 sort of like inimitable fashion, effectively admonished Netanyahu that he wanted to see

00:23:37.820 him to come calming down on those settlements. We don't like those settlements, you know,

00:23:42.860 causing big problems for us, big problems for the region. He was saying that, and he said,

00:23:46.280 he admonished Netanyahu publicly, that effect in front of the whole White House press gallery.

00:23:51.340 And so it's just a destabilizing action that's taken over.

00:23:55.160 Exactly. So in other words, Trump has somewhat encouraging form on this, on this score,

00:23:59.640 although it is rather amusing 0.62

00:24:01.480 that one of the first things Netanyahu did

00:24:03.000 upon returning home

00:24:03.820 was authorise one of the largest settlement expansions

00:24:08.260 in real terms in Israel's history

00:24:11.420 so it showed great contempt for Trump in that moment

00:24:13.720 and I think Trump was reported at the time

00:24:15.320 as being incredibly miffed

00:24:16.660 I think it also

00:24:17.720 here's what I mean when I say

00:24:19.160 that all of the presidents end up

00:24:20.760 bashing their heads against the wall with Netanyahu

00:24:22.700 and they would probably like to be dealing with somebody

00:24:24.760 other than him at this point

00:24:26.480 we've been dealing with him since the 1980s

00:24:28.500 Can you please get someone else that we can talk to?

00:24:31.640 It certainly is interesting that the Americans haven't flown off the handle about any of this.

00:24:37.340 Which you would have expected them to.

00:24:38.600 I thought they would, yeah, I expected them to, but if they haven't, or it doesn't seem like they are, that is interesting to note.

00:24:44.060 Which suggests to me that there is something larger going on, which is interesting when you pair it with this extra detail. 0.99

00:24:51.100 right at the same time as these sanctions have been put forward all of a sudden haretz which is

00:24:57.340 a major newspaper a daily newspaper in israel puts forward an expose i had to say it's on the left of

00:25:05.140 israeli politics yes it is on it is on the left so it's expected to be um hostile to netanyahu

00:25:11.000 and his government who are perceived within the country as being very right wing but still they've

00:25:16.180 forward an expose alleging that benjamin netanyahu received an explicit warning for the united arab

00:25:22.420 emirates president bin zayed days before october 7th but he didn't brief israel's security chiefs

00:25:30.500 you can find the full article on here and it does allege according to sources interviewed by the

00:25:37.540 authors in in research for a book that they're publishing that they found a load of corroborating

00:25:44.740 evidence from a load of different people who all confirmed that the phone call did take place.

00:25:51.280 The Emirati ruler would later recount the conversation he had with Netanyahu and the

00:25:55.760 warning he also relayed to CIA director William J. Burns, so it's alleging as well that Burns knew

00:26:00.920 about this. Bin Zayed shared with Burns the sense that he tried to convey to Netanyahu that there

00:26:06.140 is something about to explode and hold him that the Israeli Prime Minister believed the volatile

00:26:10.980 area was in fact the west bank the emir hoped that despite his reserved response netanyahu would take

00:26:16.940 the message seriously and take action none of them imagined that the prime minister would hear the

00:26:20.920 message but wouldn't brief the heads of the defense establishment the head of the shinbet

00:26:24.980 the head of the mossad the israel defense force's chief of staff none of them knew about bin zayed's

00:26:30.940 warning so that's what they're alleging there and there have been a number of other reports over the

00:26:35.740 years since the 7th of october alleging that in one way or another netanyahu knew that it was

00:26:41.320 going to happen and either took no action or let it happen in order to shore up his

00:26:47.800 yes now that is a very strong allegation in order to give yourself a casus bella a reason for war

00:26:54.080 to go to war with in whatever way you want to parallels with how and this is a documented fact

00:26:59.220 the fbi and the cia were aware of certain terrorists in september 11 2001 they're aware

00:27:04.400 of it they were that's not a conspiracy theory no tinfoil hat needed multiple books talking about

00:27:09.460 that as a matter of record i mean there's a parallel there isn't there no i think we're

00:27:13.640 about to get to i think yeah this is yeah net yahoo's denying the whole thing and he's suing

00:27:17.720 making the allegation but even so i mean um you know it is not unreasonable for people to point

00:27:25.040 out the fact that the the harrowing experience of the 7th october did have the effect um of dragging

00:27:31.300 israeli politics pretty uh thoroughgoingly to the right and it and it has helped sort of lend a kind

00:27:36.680 of veneer of legitimacy to the whole greater israel project that people like netanyahu and

00:27:41.160 certainly ben gavir who is tibet netanyahu's right and smotrich who is also tibet netanyahu's right

00:27:45.500 are thoroughly supportive of and have and have and are known to have been supported of for many

00:27:49.840 decades before the 7th of october because it basically um it uh it sort of it helps reinforce

00:27:55.280 a sense on the israeli right and even foster a sense among the israeli center that oh my gosh

00:28:01.000 you just can't even negotiate with these people whatsoever and so we may as well pursue regional

00:28:07.020 hegemony unapologetically before that had been a very ideological view held by segments of the

00:28:11.700 israeli rise and but i think that the 7th october did did sort of redouble the israeli sense of

00:28:16.280 intransigence and so you could see why i don't know whether it's true he's obviously going to

00:28:21.000 be suing harass but you could see how it would serve his political interests and indeed his

00:28:25.800 geopolitical interests for that act to have taken effect rather than to have been prevented

00:28:29.880 at the outset it does make a little bit too much sense from a strategic lens uh but you can see how

00:28:36.440 all of these things you can see too much it's too much sense for such spurious allegations

00:28:43.120 please netanyahu i am your strongest soldier um but you can see how all of these things are piling

00:28:48.840 on top of one another right you get the sense um from you hear from people within israel saying

00:28:54.400 that they you know we don't like how the entire world hates us now because of the actions taken

00:28:59.360 by the government uh you suddenly have these sanctions applying outside pressure and then

00:29:04.600 again from a more insider perspective you also get this sense from a number of different sources

00:29:10.440 uh that the guys who say that they're protecting you actually will let horrible things happen to

00:29:17.020 you if it serves them politically and israelis who are going to be voting in the next election

00:29:22.200 it's not even that they have to read this heretz article and just believe it all hook line and

00:29:27.180 oh the opposition is going to smash them with yeah but it just needs to sow enough doubt

00:29:31.900 in people's minds that they don't vote for him as i recall in the immediate aftermath of the

00:29:38.780 7th of october understandably there was a kind of bellicosity setting in israeli society perfectly

00:29:43.920 understandably that that should have been the case but netanyahu when quizzed was always very

00:29:47.860 very very very resistant to the idea of there being an investigation or an inquiry into what

00:29:53.620 actually what had actually happened on the 7th of october he was very resistant to that he was

00:29:57.380 straight into i'm i'm going to be the israeli bismarck mode like he was straight into that

00:30:02.660 uh and was not didn't seem particularly curious about what it what had gone like why why there

00:30:06.820 had been such a a systematic failure on israel's security perimeter perimeter one of them must be

00:30:12.420 one of the most patrolled borders in the world again i can't help but think of parallels between

00:30:17.380 that and 9-11 how the public said effectively said do whatever you want george w bush what

00:30:23.800 like give them hell do whatever you like and and the george bush administration saying yeah great

00:30:29.360 brilliant and uh we're not going to investigate it or you're going to have to really patent into

00:30:33.240 a corner over years before we it'll be a while before we do a whitewash we'll have already done

00:30:38.100 everything that we want first and then we'll investigate it later down the line whoops there 0.95

00:30:42.160 were mistakes we're going to invade the muslim world and then invite the muslim worlds in order 0.92

00:30:45.580 in order to resolve the issue. 1.00

00:30:46.960 It just makes sense.

00:30:48.260 It just makes sense.

00:30:49.280 Trust the plan.

00:30:50.980 So there are a number of different theories about this.

00:30:54.040 Firaz is basically saying,

00:30:55.760 remember that Israel was on the verge of civil conflict

00:30:58.160 before the 7th of October.

00:30:59.460 This may return to the fore,

00:31:00.720 especially if Netanyahu loses the elections.

00:31:03.900 So he is pointing out that there's the two narratives.

00:31:06.860 Netanyahu's saying that it didn't happen.

00:31:08.720 He's saying that the military intelligence

00:31:10.200 failed to spot signs of attack and warn him.

00:31:12.460 And there's the Haaretz

00:31:13.780 and other establishment forces now saying that actually netanyahu is the one to blame for it

00:31:18.820 which all weakens netanyahu domestically and also weakens their position on the world stage you

00:31:24.260 might argue then there's also interestingly where this like draws into a broader narrative you could

00:31:29.500 say uh rory our own islander editor uh has been speaking about this for a while in response to

00:31:37.300 people like academic agent uh and others who believe that israel holds primacy in american

00:31:43.940 foreign policy uh rory has been disagreeing with this uh for a long while but has been saying you

00:31:49.880 know obviously they're a little bit they can be a little bit of a loose cannon just a little bit

00:31:54.960 um they they can be an unknown quantity in things but he still says that they're a client state in

00:32:00.980 the middle east of america but what you want is a more compliant client right you want them

00:32:07.080 to do what you ask them to do whereas netanyahu and ben kavir and smart trick with greater israel

00:32:13.700 they have these ideas that no no we're going to be the regional hegemon we're going to replace

00:32:18.800 iran and then you're going to have to do what we say and for a time it seemed like that was

00:32:24.520 potentially uh the case because donald trump has major connections to netanyahu and within israel

00:32:32.100 etc he seemed to be more pliant with what they wanted uh but since it's causing everybody so

00:32:37.720 much trouble it might be that in saying oh yeah would you go ahead and sanction them and then at

00:32:44.020 the same time this haretz article comes out it might be that america's looking at all of this

00:32:48.480 and going well if netanyahu gets out we get a new government they're centrist they're going to be

00:32:52.340 more moderate they're going to be more reasonable they're maybe not going to have the same territorial

00:32:55.540 aims as the netanyahu regime the israeli center only wants to annex a quarter of the middle east

00:33:01.600 yeah so they're the moderates exactly we just get netanyahu out and we will show and also in 0.99

00:33:07.700 basically tacitly supporting them we'll show israel that we we actually know you're our bitch 0.87

00:33:13.120 not the other way around they'll get them back on the heel that is interesting that dynamic of 0.97

00:33:18.420 who's the dog and who's the tail wagging there right out of israel in the united states you

00:33:23.440 could make the argument take for example one end of the spectrum on these arguments take someone

00:33:26.660 like Tucker that just says Trump 0.65

00:33:28.460 he said Trump is a slave

00:33:30.000 to Israel he explicitly openly said it 0.99

00:33:32.700 on camera and everything right

00:33:33.700 Tucker also doesn't understand algebra though

00:33:36.180 there's nothing to understand

00:33:37.880 sorry I'm too much of a

00:33:40.580 goy sorry buddy

00:33:41.760 you can also point to you know Trump literally kissing

00:33:44.480 the wailing wall you can point

00:33:46.640 to like the Kushner connection 0.82

00:33:48.840 all his grandchildren being Jewish

00:33:50.080 you can point to a number of things the power of AIPAC

00:33:52.440 in Congress etc etc etc

00:33:54.200 then you can point to other data points

00:33:56.660 where Trump has said, look, without us, look, Bibby, without us, you're nothing.

00:34:01.300 He has said that. 0.92

00:34:02.280 You know, if we take away all the billions we give you every year, you'd be screwed.

00:34:05.880 There's a number of things where he's come out and a number of times he said,

00:34:09.020 just again, explicitly, I am not happy with what Bibby just did there.

00:34:12.740 I'm not happy with the Israeli government.

00:34:14.560 Like, we'll say things like that as well.

00:34:16.320 There is also the deep state that Trump failed to actually root out.

00:34:20.420 Right.

00:34:21.040 Who are probably, like, within the CIA, for instance, and within other departments,

00:34:25.620 who are probably all sort of like more old waspy going like hold up hold up this wasn't the deal

00:34:31.200 we're in charge actually trump you can you can like have what say that you want but also at the

00:34:37.620 end of the day we the deep state are in charge baby but with this with um the americans seemingly

00:34:43.520 not going berserk about canada and france and uh britain coming out and sanctioning israel all on

00:34:49.900 same day uh that's another data point to suggest that maybe he's not entirely under the thumb of

00:34:55.660 personally under the thumb of Benjamin Netanyahu it's a it's an it's actually quite an odd

00:35:00.860 relationship if you're really honest about it what exactly is going on there and and then there's the

00:35:06.460 deep state there's the swamp yeah is it who's more who's more powerful who controls who out of the

00:35:12.140 CIA and Mossad for example who really is like the more powerful senior partner in that i mean god

00:35:17.580 who knows god knows who knows there's a there does seem to be a rebalancing of some some sort

00:35:23.180 of shifting of uh the sands doesn't it here with this there is something going on deeper than just

00:35:29.900 simply what a foreign secretary says speaking with rory and uh shout out he's got a very interesting

00:35:35.100 substat that you should all check out uh he he thinks that this is a recalibration of uh the

00:35:40.460 the middle eastern city rory or a a rory our rory okay lovely lad rory yeah totally not kind of

00:35:47.160 insane rory um thinks that there is a recalibration he's not here to defend himself oh he's saying

00:35:53.040 that it does seem to be some sort of at least slight rejigging of the balance of balance of

00:35:59.100 power it seems like that but but anyway so that's all i've got for that uh you know feel free to

00:36:05.140 disagree uh down below but that's kind of the sense that i'm getting from this whole story with

00:36:09.840 everything piling on top of one another as it is i'll go through some of your rumble rants

00:36:14.420 oak for a win free win free replacement you get replaced you get replaced everyone's getting

00:36:20.580 replaced um sigil stone segment idea for harry the lead singer of brent uh breaking benjamin

00:36:26.020 stopped to show for five minutes the bitch about a modder insulting a mod he made for fallout 4

00:36:31.660 none of that is a joke i mean maybe i'll do a daily on it i suppose okay um endless pesto 0.78

00:36:39.380 says the israelis are just exercising their god-given right to liebensbaum by uh expanding

00:36:45.380 eastwards you're all anti-semitic bigots well i mean a lot of them were german jews so you know

00:36:51.360 back in the day who was it that hannah arendt was sleeping with back in the 90s in the 90s

00:36:57.480 sorry in the 20s yeah and what party did he join it all starts to make sense doesn't it yeah

00:37:04.180 Sigil Stone, Burnham better be careful

00:37:07.520 if he sanctions Israel too much 1.00

00:37:08.980 they might get angry and stop sending Islamists 1.00

00:37:11.400 to Britain, oh god, you're just

00:37:13.000 rapping so many different things all at once

00:37:15.080 there. Watchable

00:37:16.920 cast Hussar, thanks

00:37:18.560 thanks, I suppose. Cheers 0.99

00:37:20.640 Cheers. Want all order, the Israeli 1.00

00:37:22.980 military knew the exact locations of the 0.70

00:37:25.100 Hezbollah-Isranian leadership to blow

00:37:27.060 them up the moment the war started

00:37:28.620 of course they would have known about October 7th 1.00

00:37:31.220 that is a good point

00:37:32.360 potentially but to be fair the hezbollah in iranian leadership they have this weird policy

00:37:39.240 where they're like we're not going to lock ourselves in bunkers we're not going to be safe

00:37:43.020 if i die i die and so they were mainly taken out when they were just like sat having a drink in

00:37:49.360 their gardens because they would just sit out in the open ask you where they go yeah all right

00:37:54.920 part of their ideology and their creed that being martyred is is okay that's a glorious way to die

00:38:00.700 if i if i get taken out by a drone strike while i'm watering my plants then that's i'm just another 0.54

00:38:07.740 soldier for Allah what a calming thought anyway all right then ladies and gentlemen so i'd like

00:38:17.240 to begin this segment by drawing attention to the fact that the bay of tapestry is now in the

00:38:22.120 british museum of course where all the wonders of the world belong but ultimately there is an

00:38:27.840 important point here as well which is the fact that look in our very own lifetimes we are probably

00:38:32.860 going to see the 1000th anniversary of the battle of hastings which is a remarkable thing and

00:38:40.200 ultimately you might i'll be older shit i i'll probably be dead before then to be perfectly

00:38:45.780 honest you're only like 10 years old i'll be in my 80s i don't know yeah i'll be in my 80s or 90s 0.94

00:38:51.200 easy fingers crossed fingers crossed but i won't can't guarantee you're gonna be way too stubborn

00:38:55.480 not not to make it to that okay anyway but the point is that a thousand years is a very very

00:39:01.940 precious thing and it speaks to obviously this um joint history that the english and the french have

00:39:09.420 you know going back for over a millennia now and this is a history obviously of heritage trade war

00:39:16.000 tradition diplomacy brotherhood more war yeah yeah all of those things right but it speaks to

00:39:23.140 a level of historical continuity that even when you see the british state trying to insert random 0.75

00:39:29.800 africans into our history and everything it's like look even with all of the technology at 0.72

00:39:34.720 your disposal even with the most advanced propaganda that the world has ever known

00:39:39.700 you cannot fake 1000 years of history this is real and it exists because generations upon

00:39:48.280 generations of Englishmen and Frenchmen have, you know, sort of stewarded their countries through

00:39:54.860 those dark periods with a sense of prudence and historical sense of continuity, apart from that

00:40:01.240 one time, you know, during the French Revolution and all of that, which brings me to the point

00:40:05.540 that, so I covered one of the first ever chronicles I covered was Charles Dickens' A Tale of Two

00:40:11.680 Cities. And one of the things that, even though this is one of Dickens' few historical novels

00:40:17.640 where he's actually not writing about the Victorian era,

00:40:20.220 he's going back, obviously, to the time of the French Revolution,

00:40:23.440 and he was greatly informed by Carlisle's perspective

00:40:27.020 on the French Revolution when writing this novel,

00:40:30.140 is the fact that Dickens is basically saying

00:40:32.800 to the British establishment of the 1850s,

00:40:36.040 look, if you don't treat the other classes in society

00:40:39.960 with a level of reciprocity and a level of respect for their concerns,

00:40:44.000 there needs to be some sort of harmony

00:40:45.820 between the elite slash the aristocracy

00:40:48.580 and obviously those who are coming into a wider franchise of voting.

00:40:53.540 Well, if you don't do what the masses want,

00:40:57.820 you shouldn't be surprised if you don't have something

00:41:00.280 like a French Revolution on your hand.

00:41:02.920 And so I think it's very interesting when we look back

00:41:05.660 at a thousand years of history and we look back

00:41:08.840 through all of the periods that it's been through over to now

00:41:12.200 and we just take two separate stories.

00:41:14.480 I'm going to take one story from London, I'm going to take one story from Paris, and I just want people to ask in their minds, do we think that if we continue in this way, there will be another 1,000 years of history after this one that we're just currently coming to the end of now?

00:41:30.820 Now, this was going around all over the internet that I saw this weekend,

00:41:38.020 which is that Fabric, which is a company that basically manages and owns nightclubs in London,

00:41:45.940 has joined with St. Paul's Cathedral for a new four-year partnership.

00:41:50.540 Now, they go on to say,

00:41:51.640 We're pleased to announce a new four-year partnership between Fabric and St. Paul's,

00:41:55.540 which will see us become the Cathedral's exclusive partner

00:42:00.620 for contemporary music events from 2026 through to 2030.

00:42:06.000 As Fabric co-finder Cameron Leslie puts it,

00:42:09.780 Fabric has always been about bringing people together through music

00:42:13.080 and creating experiences that stay with people.

00:42:16.020 The opportunity to do that at St. Paul's Cathedral

00:42:18.420 over the next four years is incredibly exciting for us.

00:42:21.180 It's an extraordinary and unexpected coming together of two very different parts of London,

00:42:28.200 which is certainly an understatement,

00:42:30.920 and we're looking forward to building on the success of the events we've already held

00:42:34.800 to create something genuinely special and befitting of this incredible space.

00:42:39.780 Music. Choral music, I should hope.

00:42:43.120 No.

00:42:43.680 Gregorian chants.

00:42:44.760 I'm afraid not.

00:42:45.440 It says electronic music.

00:42:47.940 Bo, just picture it, Bo.

00:42:50.020 You, St. Paul's

00:42:52.060 N's, N's, N's

00:42:53.160 Are you going to get the glow sticks out?

00:42:55.340 Little crosses, obviously

00:42:56.960 One white glove

00:43:00.520 With sequins on it

00:43:01.460 A whistle, a glow stick

00:43:03.720 It says, we returned in 2025

00:43:05.880 With an intimate performance from Patti Smith

00:43:08.220 Is that as Patti Smith as in

00:43:10.060 The beat poet?

00:43:13.540 The punk poet from the mid-70s

00:43:16.060 Yes

00:43:16.360 She wrote lyrics for Blue Oyster Cult

00:43:18.780 back in the early 70s for instance that's that's not as objectionable right for like an artist who's

00:43:25.540 likely to sit down and actually sing a song that she composed herself so in st paul's cathedral

00:43:31.140 are there no other venues to perform yeah that's right i'm saying i'm saying in the in the spectrum

00:43:36.120 that we're talking about here that's less objectionable this is actually i'm glad you

00:43:40.800 brought this up harry because it was something that i was going to address now obviously a year

00:43:45.720 canterbury cathedral got some genuine right rightly deserved uh kickback dude rave in the

00:43:52.060 knave yeah rave in the knave is what the critics were calling it and it was the only decent act

00:43:57.340 on there is lincoln park yeah right wonder like look i like lincoln park as much as the next guy

00:44:02.280 but i don't think it belongs in canterbury cathedral i must say i've always thought that

00:44:05.840 lincoln park is the school shooters band of choice have you ever heard of corn oh well there you go

00:44:12.440 that explains that you will after the show um but what i'm trying to say is there has been a lot of

00:44:18.480 sensationalism and a lot of um embellishment of what's going on here and people have been making

00:44:26.620 out that uh now st paul's is basically going to be hosting raves for the next four years as far

00:44:33.300 as i've been able to discern uh from what has been said it's all going to be seating st paul's

00:44:38.960 the person who engages in the events there

00:44:40.740 has assured us that it's actually going to be

00:44:43.240 something that is fitting of the space itself.

00:44:47.800 However, there are other aspects to all of this as well,

00:44:51.640 even if it is the most perfect thing.

00:44:54.300 I come back to your point, Harrison,

00:44:56.700 which is there are quite a few buildings in London.

00:45:00.060 Does it really have to be St. Paul's?

00:45:02.020 And you also come down to the fact as well

00:45:04.380 that is it really correct to be making connections

00:45:08.640 with Fabric, which organises nightclubs and drugs and degeneracy.

00:45:14.620 Not that I'm saying a night out in London is a bad thing, of course,

00:45:17.360 but there is a reason that those two things have been kept separate

00:45:20.700 for all of these years.

00:45:22.160 And now to try and fuse them together,

00:45:24.620 especially when you can see here, as the BBC reported 10 years ago,

00:45:29.120 Fabric agrees strict new licensing deal with Islington Council to reopen

00:45:33.500 because people died in the premises of one of their clubs.

00:45:39.160 And as a result of this, they had their licensing taken away

00:45:42.360 after the death of these two clubbers.

00:45:45.160 And it was said...

00:45:45.620 They died of what? Overdates, I think.

00:45:46.960 Yeah, it was said that Fabric had a culture of drug use,

00:45:50.300 which staff were incapable of controlling.

00:45:53.260 And after it reopened, fortunately, we got the good word of Radio 1

00:45:57.640 and One Extra's Mr. Jam,

00:46:00.260 who said that when no one else was booking grime

00:46:03.740 in the whole of the country,

00:46:05.020 it was being booked at Fabric.

00:46:07.320 So it's good to know that Fabric

00:46:09.100 had been keeping the grime scene going as well.

00:46:12.300 So some poor cathedral might be home

00:46:15.320 to some epic grime concerts.

00:46:19.240 Just as I said, the key point is

00:46:21.080 you could find other venues.

00:46:23.880 Does it have to be the sacred ground of a cathedral?

00:46:28.440 There's bound to be a big mosque. 1.00

00:46:29.860 well the Royal Albert Hall weren't willing to take it on 1.00

00:46:33.640 so you know next best thing

00:46:35.020 you know what puts me in mind of is where you see 0.99

00:46:37.180 some Muslims doing some of their

00:46:39.260 prayers at one point during the day

00:46:40.960 and they decide they have to do it on the

00:46:43.380 grass directly outside Westminster

00:46:45.560 Abbey. They're also scared about

00:46:47.500 rising Islamophobia. Right

00:46:48.900 but you could get your little

00:46:51.360 prayer mat out and do that almost anywhere

00:46:53.320 but you decide you have to do it

00:46:55.220 on the grounds of Westminster

00:46:57.440 Abbey. Do you really?

00:46:58.920 do you same with this i'm sure there's plenty of spaces in london it's a big city it's a very very

00:47:04.200 big city you could find other places but no it's got to be inside arguably our most second most

00:47:10.200 important cathedral in my view there's not there's also nothing objectionable as such about

00:47:14.300 repurposing um what might be called heritage sites um i wouldn't want to do it with with

00:47:21.300 religious sites because because um because then the building ceases to perform its religious

00:47:27.020 function let's let us not forget the church of england i'm not an anglican but the church of

00:47:30.300 england is still supposed to exist yeah and still supposed to regard itself as someone's going to

00:47:34.860 have to tell them as the as the established church of england uh but so for instance i mean it's not

00:47:39.820 uncommon for the natural history museum to open its premises to you know gala events and drinks

00:47:46.220 and i i don't see anything wrong uh wrong with that assumption that is also an important you know

00:47:50.300 19th century 19th century heritage sites but um it is it it is curious that when it comes to

00:47:58.220 thinking that religion a religion needs a rebrand it's always christianity that is um

00:48:03.020 that is sort of denuded of meaning it's always christianity that is denuded of its essence that

00:48:06.860 is that is um that is treated as something as i say not to be preserved but to be rebranded for

00:48:12.460 the in order to be more worldly and it's and it's it's very tragic that christian figures

00:48:17.100 and christian officials go along with this themselves in the mistaken view that the church

00:48:21.020 needs to be more worldly to be relevant it's it's but it's when the church is most where it's when

00:48:25.900 churches are most worldly that they become that they cease to be relevant because they're they're

00:48:30.860 they're supposed to be otherworldly have we got any sort of comment from the archbishop canterbury

00:48:36.140 that weird woman looks a bit like tubs from mega gentleman has she said anything i haven't drawn

00:48:41.180 one out for you uh on this occasion i apologize but uh this is coming from fabric's co-founder

00:48:47.500 uh cameron leslie who has organized this with saint paul's cathedral and just so happens to be

00:48:53.820 as is pointed out here also chairs sadiq khan's nightlife task force shaping the rules for london's

00:49:00.460 bars and clubs and just so happens to have also managed to get the deal uh when it comes to saint

00:49:06.620 paul's as well for their own business now i'm sure that was all above board and totally fair

00:49:12.780 um but one thing as well is that so um sandra uh yeah lines uh timbrel says the cathedral's

00:49:20.460 director called it a chance for a carefully curated program of exceptional concerts

00:49:25.500 to saint paul's and they also talk about the fact that this has all been backed as part of a

00:49:31.020 larger package of 300 000 pounds rolled out from the mayoral grant to london's night life scene

00:49:39.020 but again saint paul's is not a part of that scene you're trying to integrate a sacred space

00:49:45.880 into just actually being a a prettier club is really what this is about just a more noble

00:49:54.760 looking club so what's what's going to what's going to be permitted uh at st paul's rave night

00:50:00.320 so they haven't revealed the acts yet okay because because is it going to be a case where some like

00:50:05.320 um cleaning staff are going to have to be picking up like used needles or like discarded

00:50:09.960 nos canisters from the floor of st paul's the morning after is that what we're going to be

00:50:14.700 dealing with is they're going to be like little lines of uh of mdma just like along the pews one

00:50:20.180 thing you said it sort of suggested that they what you said it's going to be a sit-down thing

00:50:23.200 and it should be in line with...

00:50:25.080 So it's not actually like a rave,

00:50:27.820 like an actual early 90s, sweaty walls, insane drug use.

00:50:33.440 It's not going to be that.

00:50:34.260 Well, this is what I was saying. 1.00

00:50:35.260 The slop accounts were embellishing it

00:50:36.900 to make out that it was going to be all raves and everything.

00:50:39.560 I'm saying you don't have to embellish it.

00:50:41.800 The truth is also unacceptable.

00:50:44.720 And ultimately, we get to the point where it's like,

00:50:46.940 well, as you can see here, Sadiq Khan saying,

00:50:50.140 fabric, St. Paul's Cathedral,

00:50:51.820 name a more iconic duo i don't know saint paul's and christ i would imagine bringing together these

00:50:57.260 two institutions will create a one-of-a-kind experience pairing world-class music with one

00:51:02.300 of our most special landmarks again it's just a landmark now the museum piece yes the museum piece

00:51:08.520 because that's what london is it's just an interactive museum full of these hey hey it's

00:51:14.420 also a shithole he knows what he's doing as well by putting fabric first in that duo yes of course

00:51:20.220 he does it's always so yeah coyly word i'm not sure how iconic the duo can be when i'd not heard 0.96

00:51:25.740 of one of them no yeah you've not been clubbing at fabric is it is it a venue uh i i think there

00:51:32.240 sounds like a like a conglomerate it sounds like a pop-up club there was a club called fabric in

00:51:38.580 london there was well maybe now it's more than just a club maybe it is a event sort of thing

00:51:45.160 you get these pop-up club nights where they'll all be under the same umbrella

00:51:48.920 but they'll change from venue to venue

00:51:51.840 but they'll all have the same sort of vibe and

00:51:53.720 aesthetic. Yeah, but

00:51:55.240 I wouldn't normally cite the Daily Mail

00:51:57.460 but as they say here, Fabric Nightclub

00:51:59.840 raves at St. Paul's Cathedral

00:52:01.440 are an insult to Lord Nelson's

00:52:03.660 memory, say his naval commander's family

00:52:05.820 because of course let's not also forget

00:52:07.740 that buried

00:52:09.200 beneath St. Paul's Cathedral is

00:52:11.460 Lord Nelson, Lord Wellington

00:52:13.560 the wonderful painter Turner

00:52:15.560 of course, and of course the

00:52:17.740 cathedral's own architect, the wonderful Sir Christopher Wren, who was responsible for so

00:52:23.160 much of the reconstruction of London after the Great Fire in the 17th century. And I can't help

00:52:30.140 but feel like this is, again, when I come back to the beginning, that 1,000 years of continuity

00:52:36.820 and memory building off of one another's generations, honouring the past. I mean,

00:52:42.540 it almost literally, I mean, apart from the fact, again, it's seating, but it feels like

00:52:46.860 dancing on their graves it feels like you're dancing on their graves and actually it's it's

00:52:51.780 worth remembering like for a lot of these immigrant populations and obviously um sadiq khan is a very

00:52:56.960 good sort of representative for them um britain's heritage you know may as well be disneyland like

00:53:03.720 it like yes it's not it's it is something that's fundamentally uh cosmetic it's it's it's fundamentally

00:53:09.120 about uh about you you you look at foreign um people walking around london and i i always really

00:53:15.840 resent the way in which my capital city is is being treated like a museum as if it's not something

00:53:20.800 that's still alive it's as if as if there's not there's not more of our story to be written it's

00:53:25.500 all in the rear view mirror all in the rear view mirror and they're only taking the most sort of

00:53:29.080 superficial and cosmetic interests in it in many cases uh and of course it would it would never

00:53:33.860 occur to to sadiq khan to treat muslim places of worship this way it would it would never occur to

00:53:40.360 the to the chief rabbi of britain to to to talk of synagogues in that way but when it comes to

00:53:46.560 the heritage of the host population it is a sort of the property of everyone as a whole

00:53:50.280 and it also hence why there was iftahs in there and hence why there are iftahs in that hence why

00:53:54.520 he calls it our our special landmark and and it is just a sort of it it it it bears no sort of

00:54:00.180 tangible relationship to the people who who built it and to the people who um should have fully

00:54:06.820 inherited it as we indeed we've only sort of partially inherited it um it's just it's just

00:54:10.820 an optional thing it's just it's just part of a kind of universal proto prototype um it it betokens

00:54:17.200 real contempt for our for our history and our heritage it does and those sentiments are um

00:54:21.880 echoed by a wonderful name peregrine hud president of the nelson society and a descendant of nelson's

00:54:28.600 elder brother who said the decision raised wider questions about treating saint paul's as both a

00:54:33.120 place of worship and the site of national historical importance and speaking to the

00:54:37.480 telegraph mr hood said is nothing sacred anymore what a sad reflection on where spiritual integrity

00:54:43.660 and christianity are today saint paul's cathedral positioning itself in this way is deeply depressing

00:54:49.120 and he said his concerns extended beyond nelson himself arguing that the cathedral was one of

00:54:54.560 christianity's most significant sacred places of course which is also true said i would contradict

00:55:00.160 him on one thing though when he sort of rhetorically asks is nothing sacred anymore there's plenty

00:55:03.720 that's sacred it's just nothing nothing of ours yeah it's nothing that we value i think that we

00:55:07.280 value yes and i think of ours that muhammad sadiq khan not to be confused with the seven seven

00:55:13.900 terrorist um of the same name um nothing that he finds nothing that he finds sacred yeah when he

00:55:22.200 talks about one of our what did he say one of our special landmarks yeah what do you mean our

00:55:26.660 aren't you of pakistani descent it's not yours what are you talking about our special land it's

00:55:31.300 not yours it could never be oh it's more than frustrating isn't it because they wouldn't he

00:55:38.660 would not speak like this and do this to a mosque like the one of the great giant mosques in uh

00:55:45.540 like east london or something and match it up with a nightclub and that that would be brilliant no

00:55:50.180 because dream of doing this wouldn't allow it in in order for it to be the sort of the shared

00:55:55.300 property of humanity it it does need to be treated like a commodity um which is just a venue so yeah

00:56:01.940 so so it's sort of these places are sort of desacralized uh they are sort of stripped of

00:56:07.620 their historical significance so that they can be more readily commodified and more readily

00:56:12.340 appropriate more readily appropriate and due to uh the diminishing funding and donations on all

00:56:18.340 of the money going into sustaining the churches whether it be canterbury st paul's it incentivizes

00:56:23.860 to put on events like this to obviously keep their money going and then the entire thing becomes

00:56:29.700 a diminishing spiral and bear in mind how um pathetically the church of england is talking

00:56:34.320 about the church of england is not not strapped for cash they've got plenty of money when it

00:56:38.360 comes to talking about the need to atone for reparations suddenly when it comes to supporting

00:56:43.280 local churches and indeed and indeed uh impressive um you know iconic um i don't want to say

00:56:50.340 landmarks now iconic sacred buildings like saint paul's cathedral all of a sudden they're strapped

00:56:54.660 for cash and they and they need to they need to denude their inheritance further in order to make

00:56:58.900 money that they already have but they're busy talking about giving it to jamaica yeah quite

00:57:02.580 um so that's london extraordinary let's check in on paris shall we so the eiffel tower was shut

00:57:08.500 down amidst a staff strike after women were reportedly told to leave their work areas to

00:57:14.120 accommodate a hindu group's request to limit interactions with women now um the incel hindu

00:57:21.720 sec this is like the hindus it would make more sense if it was muslim but hindu this is hindu 0.90

00:57:27.060 they don't want to see women or something what so bro you've just not taken the black pill yet

00:57:32.760 well as you can see here being uh reported that day in paris hindu religious groups

00:57:39.660 vows of celibacy and the eiffel tower obviously the eiffel tower there being the only one that's

00:57:45.520 remotely connected to french culture neither hinduism or celibacy are but ultimately you get

00:57:51.560 uh it's the aspect of the fact that

00:57:54.300 so the honest right so baps b-a-p-s i have no idea it stands for four very very long

00:58:09.140 hindu words that i cannot pronounce and i don't care to try and pronounce them no no i've not

00:58:14.740 even written it it's but if these people have taken a vow of celibacy right i thought that's

00:58:20.840 more about your own control right i'm gonna do it sorry wait there's a celibacy sex that's called 0.98

00:58:27.080 baps it is read it for us but bot shasana oh fuck ashkar yeah urushottam swaminyar and sansha 0.99

00:58:36.960 why is the table over there floating 0.98

00:58:39.360 is it just a ephemism in the south

00:58:40.740 have we just got a colonial

00:58:43.520 administrator over here

00:58:45.300 Lord Curzon in the corner

00:58:46.340 not only did you pronounce them

00:58:49.800 you seem to be putting on the accent as well

00:58:51.960 it's a pleasure Mr Kipling 1.00

00:58:53.400 old fashioned oriental 1.00

00:58:55.180 reverting to type

00:58:56.000 but it goes on to say

00:58:58.120 the Eiffel Tower was closed as a result of this

00:59:01.400 and Prime Minister Narendra Modi

00:59:03.540 because he's always just around the bloody corner

00:59:06.100 uh described the opening of um uh perhaps i can't say sorry uh first major temple in paris

00:59:13.700 on september 6th as a as a quote a new milestone in the cultural relations between india and

00:59:20.820 france these milestones only ever seem to be involving like more indians show up in your

00:59:26.020 country yes more indian religious temples show up in your country right like where's the where's

00:59:32.220 the transfer of french over to india where's the transfer of french cultural practices over to

00:59:38.980 india well i mean it's a good question and also as well of course it's the fact that as you say

00:59:44.660 it's never just oh we're all sharing the space no you encroaching into this space naturally takes

00:59:51.820 away the frenchness it's not that two can live side by side the arrival of one necessitates um 0.83

00:59:58.140 you know moving out of the other um but naturally all of the people from the tabloids and the papers

01:00:04.780 and the the establishment figures in the eu are just drawing fire to the fact that it's like well

01:00:10.860 apparently they're under fire after the decision to hide the female staff again i just have to

01:00:16.140 highlight here if you have taken a vow of vow of celibacy that is a vow that you need to keep

01:00:22.480 yourself under control it doesn't mean that the rest of the world has to bend to your needs right 0.91

01:00:28.060 if you've taken a vow of celibacy but you need women to just be a way out of your sight or else

01:00:33.860 you'll lose if i see one woman i'm gonna break it yeah it's like yeah that just i'm sorry that 0.98

01:00:39.140 just means that you are a um randy well yeah yeah uh what a latent sex criminal yes is what it is 0.97

01:00:49.400 well i've taken a vow of celibacy therefore i cannot see any women i cannot allow myself 0.98

01:00:54.600 to see a woman lest I assault her?

01:00:58.280 I mean, what's the logic here? 0.99

01:00:59.620 What are they talking about?

01:01:01.580 That's mad.

01:01:02.720 Yes.

01:01:03.060 That's mad.

01:01:03.760 So it also comes down to the fact that now there is an argument 0.97

01:01:07.020 between progressive Hindus in French academia and French universities

01:01:11.740 versus the far-right Hindus,

01:01:13.960 which I'm being led to believe is what these people were

01:01:16.980 because they actually have ties to Modi himself and Hindu nationalism.

01:01:22.300 And so it's like, okay, but please explain to me why it should be necessary for French men and women to have to learn about the minutia of Hindu theology just to navigate their own capital city of Paris.

01:01:37.240 They would never tolerate the same thing in reverse. The governing BJP party in India doesn't even tolerate its own co-ethnics if they hold divergent religious beliefs.

01:01:51.740 the idea that i mean harry's point earlier was very was was very on the money they would never

01:01:55.920 tolerate if this is what cultural exchange looks like they would never tolerate it in their own

01:02:00.500 back in their in their own backyard they're thoroughgoing they're thoroughgoing um demographic 0.99

01:02:04.660 realists in their own neck of the woods uh completely unappeasable hypocrites and utterly 0.98

01:02:09.020 shameless absolutely and and also as well when you just see the fact that we have been surrounded 0.98

01:02:14.000 for decades now by just brutalism and the degradation of our towns and cities and then

01:02:20.200 you just see this magnificent, colorful, you know, vitalistic, really, I mean, it's an impressive

01:02:26.800 building. It's just in the wrong country. That's in France, is it? Yes. And you can see them here

01:02:32.220 speaking at the inauguration and the opening of the building. And so, and this comes from India

01:02:39.300 in France. A moment of joy for the Indian community on the occasion of the inauguration of

01:02:44.960 the baps in paris built through indian craftsmanship and french engineering uh etc etc and it's like

01:02:52.640 okay this is i like the idea that what that really means is the indians saying yeah we want something 0.81

01:02:56.080 like this and the french like okay right we'll sort out we'll actually sort out the the grubby

01:02:59.840 details for you the indians craftsmanship is just wish casting the french engineering is getting it 0.98

01:03:03.520 done yeah and uh in between smoke breaks and the baps can't be near any of the french women's baps

01:03:10.720 and we get to the point where now it took long enough didn't it but i mean i must say i was

01:03:15.520 tempted to make a joke but i did find it funny the idea that sort of baps in the eiffel tower

01:03:19.120 being advertised around paris i imagine there were a lot of disappointed frenchmen yes showing

01:03:24.160 up at the showing up at the entrance yeah i've turned up for actual baps and there's not a single

01:03:28.880 pair in sight bloody oh i've been lied to bloody state of this city um and so you can see people

01:03:36.080 People like just establishment snooches like Michel Barnier saying, oh, the Eiffel Tower is at the heart of my constituency.

01:03:42.580 It's the common heritage of all Parisians and of all French people.

01:03:46.340 If it was common heritage of all people who lived in Paris, why would they be demanding that the women are moved out of the way there?

01:03:54.440 And anyway, why would they be disrespecting it and leading to a strike to get it closed down?

01:04:00.220 But all of it, just to skim through for the sake of time, because we've got your segment too, Bo, and I don't want to cut you short.

01:04:05.680 is the fact that they're all just focusing on Hollande, former president.

01:04:10.700 It's like, oh, well, it applies everywhere to all women and all men without exception.

01:04:16.400 And it's like, okay, Marie Le Pen.

01:04:18.300 It's like, in France, we will never accept that the presence of women be limited.

01:04:22.200 It's like, okay, but there is another aspect of this that you're all just ignoring here.

01:04:27.520 The only thing in response they can appeal to is universalist liberal values

01:04:32.020 rather than the sort of like ethnic conflict

01:04:37.400 that is actually going on right under their nose.

01:04:39.880 Absolutely.

01:04:40.880 And so BAPS apologised for some of this.

01:04:44.580 And really, they just apologised for the optics and the PR scandal

01:04:47.980 that it was for them.

01:04:49.660 But ultimately, it also comes down to, I think,

01:04:52.480 now this was not this year from what I understand.

01:04:55.000 There is an annual celebration of Ganesh in Paris.

01:05:02.020 And when you see the video here, I'm just going to mute it.

01:05:08.220 If my mouth works.

01:05:10.000 This is the elephant one, isn't it, Ganesh? 0.91

01:05:12.080 This feels very out of place. 0.57

01:05:13.340 Chocolate Ganesh.

01:05:14.400 Sorry.

01:05:14.940 Yeah, but one of the things I was just going to say is...

01:05:18.440 Why have they got their shirts off? 0.64

01:05:19.620 But you can see women there, Harry. 1.00

01:05:22.440 So it's all right.

01:05:23.820 This is fine because it includes women. 0.55

01:05:25.880 This is perfectly acceptable.

01:05:26.920 This is universalist liberalism.

01:05:29.180 Sorry, I didn't realise.

01:05:30.420 And so, yes, I would just like to say that this is the tale of two cities right now, and if we actually want to protect the things that are precious to us, such as the common history between the English and the French, I would suggest that we guard it a little more particularly, because ultimately, otherwise, we're going to see the very thing that Dickens was warning about, which is total collapse in anarchy.

01:05:57.560 um all right i'll just quickly rumble through the rounds they all have to have their shirts

01:06:04.000 off man why did you have to show me that um gross let me see um for ten dollars thank you

01:06:09.440 um adrian marie says um is patty smith going to open with her famous line jesus died for

01:06:14.940 somebody's sins but not mine in saint paul's still awfully sacrilegious line of hers so yes

01:06:21.120 that's still pretty terrible i mainly remember her for writing a few uh lyrics to uh blue oyster

01:06:26.160 songs, so. Yeah, and I like

01:06:28.220 some of that stuff. I've got some albums.

01:06:30.440 That's a random name, so have the 1.00

01:06:32.140 French not suffered enough? You know, being 1.00

01:06:34.180 French not. There was one one that I wanted 1.00

01:06:36.120 to, that was quite fun. Sigilstone,

01:06:38.100 imagine having a concert in a church and not playing

01:06:39.980 Varg Vikerns. What the F happened

01:06:42.100 to this world? Shaped my damn head. 1.00

01:06:43.900 If anything, I'd imagine Varg would be more 1.00

01:06:46.040 insulted by having his music played in a church

01:06:48.100 than the other way around.

01:06:49.960 And apart from me, Varg 1.00

01:06:52.340 is the insane Norwegian pagan 1.00

01:06:54.060 Who was in black metal in the 90s 0.99

01:06:56.360 And murdered one of his bandmates

01:06:57.760 Oh

01:06:58.620 Much more appropriate

01:07:00.520 He's kind of a niche figure

01:07:03.900 You know

01:07:04.300 He's also very funny

01:07:07.420 Oh yeah

01:07:10.980 He lives in France now

01:07:13.100 He got arrested in France

01:07:16.060 For hoarding guns

01:07:17.400 Sounds like a worry to me

01:07:21.860 oh he's a good lad

01:07:23.660 he's our

01:07:24.140 is he

01:07:25.120 yeah

01:07:26.080 okay

01:07:26.980 deeply misunderstood

01:07:29.320 exactly

01:07:31.620 by Harry I think

01:07:32.600 it is White Pill Wednesday

01:07:38.180 for an and finally story

01:07:39.660 try and make it

01:07:40.600 a bit more upbeat

01:07:41.740 and something a little bit different

01:07:43.260 terrific

01:07:43.600 a little bit of

01:07:44.280 science and technology news

01:07:46.000 a little bit

01:07:46.460 something that's sort of positive

01:07:47.580 I think

01:07:48.200 something which will

01:07:50.100 increase

01:07:50.680 the human understanding

01:07:52.500 of the entire cosmos,

01:07:54.660 our view of the universe.

01:07:56.720 I'm a big fan,

01:07:57.640 I don't know about you fellas,

01:07:59.340 but I'm a big fan

01:08:00.280 of a space telescope.

01:08:02.220 Anybody?

01:08:02.760 Anybody with me?

01:08:03.440 Pretty cool.

01:08:04.020 I've never looked through one,

01:08:05.080 but I mean,

01:08:05.700 on a general sense, yeah.

01:08:07.440 When James Webb went up,

01:08:09.160 which is like the cutting edge

01:08:10.240 one at the moment,

01:08:10.800 James Webb Space Telescope,

01:08:11.780 when that went up

01:08:12.480 a few years ago now,

01:08:13.640 I wrote a couple

01:08:14.220 of different articles,

01:08:15.000 did a couple of different

01:08:15.720 segments on it,

01:08:16.740 and I think that's great

01:08:17.720 where it can look back to,

01:08:19.820 well,

01:08:20.680 almost almost the earliest light there is in the cosmos you can look back to sort of beyond 13

01:08:26.420 billion years ago right that we can tell is redshifted that far almost almost the first

01:08:32.020 light that the universe ever sort of created the first stars really the little red dots as they

01:08:37.320 call them now where is that is that in california where's where's the james webb telescope it's in

01:08:41.680 the the lagrange point two that's a million and a half miles away in space oh sorry sorry yeah it's

01:08:47.460 telescope that's in oh i didn't know oh right oh yeah yeah so there's ground uh ground-based

01:08:52.340 telescopes and then space telescopes which are literally in space oh you got you yeah and the

01:08:56.420 james webb space telescope was was one of those okay but that's such a special picture of the

01:09:00.420 telescope in space was like you know like for the hubble space telescope that's actually in low earth

01:09:07.140 orbit so it's quite close to the earth really close to the earth hubble um but the ones they

01:09:12.980 do now they send out like i say way beyond the moon way way way beyond the moon right

01:09:17.140 the moon's only a few hundred thousand miles away but they go out to a certain point in space where

01:09:21.780 there's like a particular type of uh orbit gravity uh well an orbit where they can stay there and

01:09:28.740 it's a long enough far enough away from the earth and the moon and the sun where there shouldn't be

01:09:32.900 much glare or any glare and if they've got the sun shields and all sorts of things they can get uh

01:09:38.340 wonderful wonderful uh images i think so but the space is insanely impressive technology not only

01:09:43.620 that you can build it but also that you know millions of miles away you've been able to account

01:09:48.420 for all of that and then you get it there and it works yeah every time i and every time i see the

01:09:54.560 photographs coming back from what these telescopes they always just film me my jaw just drops they

01:09:59.180 leave me in a sense of wonder especially now because of just how detailed they are how far

01:10:03.720 away from the earth can they get them well the lagrange point 2 is about a million and a half

01:10:08.440 kilometers away yeah so it's yeah a few times further away than the moon and they sit there

01:10:15.800 but hubble for example is in low earth orbit so that's only a few hundred miles up uh but this

01:10:20.720 one the the nancy grace roman space test or they're just calling it roman um and it's like a

01:10:27.640 near it's like a near infrared visible and near infrared one so james webb sees into sort of much

01:10:34.920 deeper infrared so it's the oldest most stretched out light there is um so that's like a very very

01:10:40.120 specialized instrument the james webb it seems like a like a laser-like focus back in time really

01:10:46.440 and the hubble is similar but the thing about this one the thing about roman is that it will be able

01:10:52.040 to produce super wide field surveys that's what it'll be is its resolution is about as good as

01:10:59.800 hubble so nowhere near as good as james webb but still great uh but he'll be able to see like a

01:11:04.680 hundred times what hubble can see so in other words we'll put it this way one a bit of information

01:11:10.680 i saw i think it might have been anton petrov shout out to anton pedrov i love him really big

01:11:15.320 space and science channel he's great i love my astrum i love my dr becky i love my anton petrov

01:11:23.960 they're all great channels massive channels by the way um it's like when harry's talking about

01:11:28.920 bands from like the early 2000s you could be making words up you could it's greek to me you

01:11:34.200 really could be long for me i know not long for you it's a good dynamic we've got going these are

01:11:38.440 real people real channels with millions of subs so so so what what you're saying is that we should

01:11:43.000 be able to soon hopefully what get a new style of space photo if it's going to be like much wider

01:11:49.720 in the way you're describing hubble was like james webb can literally looks at like pinpoints

01:11:53.880 Smaller than pinpoints

01:11:54.840 Hubble looks

01:11:55.900 Just a small 0.91

01:11:57.260 Like

01:11:57.780 Hubble's been up there

01:11:58.720 For years and years and years

01:11:59.620 Right

01:11:59.880 And it's been able to

01:12:01.160 Effectively map

01:12:02.140 Or survey

01:12:02.800 Something like

01:12:03.660 0.1% of the sky

01:12:05.580 And if it was to try

01:12:07.940 And map or survey

01:12:08.780 The whole night sky

01:12:10.200 That would take centuries

01:12:11.980 Centuries 0.98

01:12:12.600 And Romans should be able 1.00

01:12:14.940 To do it in a few short years 1.00

01:12:16.440 Well let's watch this video

01:12:18.920 In fact

01:12:19.520 I can't remember how long

01:12:20.720 It's a minute or a bit

01:12:21.620 But let's watch it

01:12:23.880 What are dark matter and dark energy?

01:12:27.760 How common are planetary arrangements like our own?

01:12:31.780 And how many planets in our galaxy have the potential to harbor life?

01:12:36.640 The Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope will help answer these fundamental questions.

01:12:42.260 Each image from its wide-field instrument will have the depth and clarity of Hubble's

01:12:46.680 best, but capture a sky area 100 times larger.

01:12:52.120 The Roman Space Telescope will take the lead in exploring dark energy and dark matter.

01:12:57.860 We only know they exist by their effects on observable matter, yet these two mysterious

01:13:03.060 components make up 95% of the universe.

01:13:06.560 Okay, I could let it go on but I'll just, because that's a little bit of an annoying

01:13:11.260 voice to me.

01:13:12.260 But... 0.98

01:13:13.260 Just a woman's voice in general. 1.00

01:13:16.260 No, no, just a... 1.00

01:13:18.260 where's the neutral woman voice and bows like fuming bright red where's the bloke love yeah 0.99

01:13:24.980 um no uh so it's named after this woman nancy grace roman who in the 60s and 70s was a very

01:13:30.900 very senior person at nasa she's known as the mother of hubble she went on to be this little

01:13:35.780 old lady um okay that's great we needed to see the natural age in this pointless tab

01:13:43.060 them we get them instagram now and then this is her in her prime this is her later in life yeah

01:13:50.260 so okay thank you this is seems wholesome enough this is yeah she was she was a great person really

01:13:55.460 um so it's a massive thing right it's like meters and meters tall um uh 40 foot long or longer um

01:14:03.060 so it's a massive thing like you can see the people there for sort of the scale of it it's

01:14:07.860 a joint thing that to put it in that's just the nose cone that's just the top of the the rocket

01:14:12.580 that it went up on it went up on a falcon heavy so thanks elon appreciate that buddy there you go

01:14:19.220 and nasa in conjunction with spacex lovely stuff and it launched not that long ago a few days ago

01:14:24.740 or was it a week ago the beginning of the very beginning of august it takes a long while to

01:14:29.220 get out to its final point and even then it's got to we won't be getting decent data and images and

01:14:34.980 science back from it until early 2027 um but that's what it will look like that's obviously

01:14:40.020 An artist's impression of what it will look like

01:14:42.540 When it's out there

01:14:43.200 Okay and you get the idea

01:14:47.060 That it will be able to

01:14:48.200 Map a lot more of the sky

01:14:50.060 A lot more quickly

01:14:50.940 Including our own galaxy

01:14:52.540 One interesting point I think is to note that

01:14:56.860 Its mirrors were originally made

01:14:59.160 By the National Reconnaissance Office

01:15:01.320 If anyone knows

01:15:03.040 About the National Reconnaissance Office

01:15:05.220 In America

01:15:05.760 It's a spy agency

01:15:06.940 The mirrors for it were meant for

01:15:09.860 a spire satellite looking back down at earth but they realized they didn't need it or they didn't

01:15:15.060 want it or they they'd machined too many it's like a crazy high precision crazily high precision um

01:15:20.740 so they repurposed it and so that's why nasa was able to do this relatively quickly relatively

01:15:27.060 cheaply because the james webb went years 20 years more 10 sorry 10 years or more over when it should

01:15:33.220 have gone out and billions of dollars over budget whereas this is coming just under budget actually

01:15:38.180 remarkably because yeah because the spooks said well we've got these spare ridiculously high

01:15:44.420 precision instruments that we just don't need now you could use them if you want that's basically

01:15:49.300 sort of what happened um but i think perhaps perhaps you might be able to argue the most

01:15:55.700 fascinating thing or the best thing about it is that it can work in conjunction with the other

01:16:01.300 space telescopes right so for example roman will like look at all the sky map do surveys of all

01:16:09.940 the skies and then the data even perhaps ai will be able to pick out extremely interesting things

01:16:17.540 quite quickly that we've never seen before or for whatever reason are extremely interesting to

01:16:21.300 scientists and then you can turn james webb on that particular point in space the more enhanced

01:16:27.860 Zoom in on that

01:16:29.720 And that exact thing

01:16:30.700 And suddenly our knowledge of the universe and the cosmos

01:16:33.880 Very very efficiently

01:16:35.640 Instead of just randomly just looking around

01:16:38.160 Hoping to find stuff

01:16:39.500 Hoping to find a new type of supernova or something

01:16:42.100 Just hoping to look at a star

01:16:44.480 When an exoplanet transits

01:16:46.160 Across its surface

01:16:47.000 No no

01:16:47.720 We'll get super efficient about it

01:16:50.040 We'll know where to look

01:16:51.560 Where to point James Webb exactly

01:16:53.260 And other things

01:16:54.120 So it's a real turning point

01:16:55.560 Yeah it could well be

01:16:57.860 We could be from sort of randomly stumbling around and looking at 0.1% of the sky

01:17:02.220 to zeroing in almost immediately on the most interesting, most important things.

01:17:08.160 We're finally going to find the sexy Star Trek babes out there. 0.95

01:17:12.680 Well, universe completed it, mate. 0.73

01:17:15.160 It's not just that it's got a really wide field ability,

01:17:19.440 but also that it's searching for dark energy and dark matter and exoplanets.

01:17:23.940 and it's gonna it's got all sorts of it's got all sorts of instruments fascinating instruments

01:17:28.600 on it um and the other thing i think to mention i think a lot of people aren't really aware of

01:17:33.700 is how many space telescopes we've got it's not just hubble james webb and now this if you look

01:17:40.460 at this is just the wikipedia page a lot of these are old but we see there's um like it's not it's

01:17:45.180 not the thing isn't dead yet then it means there's an actual space telescope some of these

01:17:48.540 overlap but so just in the x-ray spectrum we've got uh we humans have got like a few of those up

01:17:55.740 there just just x-ray ones uh there's in the ultraviolet in the ultraviolet there's only

01:18:02.540 one is there oh no there's a few there's a few look oh multiple multiple ones of them just in

01:18:08.140 the x-ray and there's in the visible light so a lot of these telescopes actually will show up more

01:18:13.380 than once in these lists because they're able to do you know like for example what we're talking

01:18:16.500 about here roman and hubble can do visible light and near infrared so okay but nonetheless you can

01:18:23.540 see look there's a number of them infrared ones and uh microwave ones they're much rarer and uh

01:18:33.780 in in there there's no radio telescopes in space are there or are there i'm not yet

01:18:38.500 anyway um and then in the future going forward there will be look future launches

01:18:44.500 they're not short of them we're going to have more and more space telescopes

01:18:48.760 more and more space telescopes at some point there'll be an even bigger version of james

01:18:54.320 webb even bigger so it's one of those called arachis yeah yeah it's a european space agency

01:19:01.740 one yeah it's always what so that'll be you can always tell there's nerds in charge of this stuff

01:19:07.500 can't you lower yeah uh visible light near infrared so that's some sort of new hub actual

01:19:14.780 new hubble type equivalent thing so okay i thought that was interesting because it may well be that

01:19:21.500 in the late 2020s or the early 2030s we will just discover and able be able to answer loads more of

01:19:31.280 the sort of fundamental questions of how galaxies form, why they form, what the beginning of the

01:19:37.980 entire cosmos was, all sorts of things about the nature of stars, the nature of planets, why and

01:19:45.020 how they form, all these sorts of things. It's sort of a bit of a golden age of astronomy, I think.

01:19:51.900 I'm not the first person to say that, that's not sort of my insight, lots of people that

01:19:55.160 follow this sort of stuff say it. Yeah, we're lucky enough to live through an age where we're

01:19:59.900 going from not really knowing a great deal more than the likes of galileo did really to

01:20:06.080 understanding understanding the the universe on a much more profound level like trying to understand

01:20:12.320 what dark energy and dark matter might really be we still don't really know if you speak to a

01:20:17.160 scientist who's honest so explain to me what dark energy is and they go i mean it sounds cool in

01:20:24.140 that video it said that we only know it exists because we know that something is affecting the

01:20:28.700 matter you can just infer you can infer that it must exist but we don't actually know what it is

01:20:33.660 they've just given it a name dark matter or dark energy but we don't know what it is pretty sure

01:20:37.640 it belongs to theoretical physics it's it's it's a way of sort of tidying up equations for as far

01:20:41.820 as physicists are concerned so it's i think it's still a postulate and and maybe it's a postulate

01:20:48.280 that could find uh conclusive well not conclusive but at any rate strong um verification by virtue

01:20:54.260 of the activities of this of this telescope yeah some scientists say there is no such thing as dark

01:20:58.680 energy or dark matter that's just what some mathematicians or scientists physicists are

01:21:03.740 calling it because they've got no other way of sort of describing it and it's not necessarily

01:21:08.060 real enough to say no it must be real look at this xyz it must be real real real and we just

01:21:14.000 haven't we're just not able to measure it yet in any real way certainly not see it um but yeah i

01:21:20.160 mean starting to starting to get there one way or another and i think this space telescope roman is

01:21:26.380 going to just make it with just our ability to do that much much more efficient instead of sort of

01:21:31.640 randomly searching around the sky we'll be able to uh we have to pinpoint the most interesting

01:21:37.440 things very quickly okay that's that hopefully it's a little bit of a white pill for a wednesday

01:21:42.800 we've brought white hill wednesday back yeah bring it bring on bring on the blue space babes

01:21:47.060 Ahsoka's out there waiting for you, Luka. 0.62

01:21:50.060 What the hell?

01:21:52.060 I think the Sakura's a blue one, man. 0.88

01:21:54.060 Oh, is that the...

01:21:55.060 Sorry, sorry, getting it mixed up.

01:21:58.060 Did get a few rumble rants for that one if you wanted to go through, Bo.

01:22:01.060 Oh, do you mind reading them? They're a bit out of the way.

01:22:03.060 Yeah, yeah, sure. 0.88

01:22:04.060 Flying Crocodile, after Elon's influence on NASA, they've decided to throw up a Roman. 0.97

01:22:09.060 So true.

01:22:10.060 Sigil Stone, remember anyone talking about dark matter and not deriding it should be mocked and insulted for being backwards

01:22:16.060 backwards and believing the universe runs on mystical who who BS uh response to that Bo I

01:22:21.920 wasn't really listening to you to be frank he's he's saying that uh dark matter is mystical who

01:22:28.340 who do BS oh well it may be as we said the scientists they've given it a name dark energy

01:22:33.480 and dark matter they've given it a name but yeah it may well just be well they really don't know

01:22:39.680 as Harrison said it may well just be a mathematical well I I I'm I'm not well equipped

01:22:45.460 to speak on this but i do know for instance that um uh one of the one for example when

01:22:52.740 newton was um putting forth his sort of uh principia um um in in the 17th century um

01:23:00.740 one of the reasons why he wasn't fully believed was because his model

01:23:04.660 of the universe wouldn't explain certain perturbations that were happening certain

01:23:08.820 telescopes were picking up in in the solar system and all of a sudden later the planet neptune was

01:23:14.500 discovered which all of a sudden may made newton's equations work in a way that they had seemed

01:23:20.100 counterintuitive earlier on i may have slightly butchered that butchered that history but it's

01:23:23.380 obvious science is necessarily provisional and sometimes there are sort of unexplained parts of

01:23:28.740 um your sort of your your um theory and you don't just ditch the theory straight away because there

01:23:34.180 are some unexplained parts of it you try consistent with the virtues of simplicity and elegance and

01:23:39.380 uh symmetry and all the rest of it you try to postulate um other other phenomena that

01:23:44.740 might make sense of your theory and then you and then you see seek further verification for that

01:23:48.900 so my understanding is that dark matter and dark energy have been postulated by theoretical

01:23:53.060 physicists in order to explain um prinks that they have in their equations that haven't been fully

01:23:58.340 smoothed out yet and it may at some point receive inclusive verification maybe there are some

01:24:02.900 physicists who already think it has done obviously i'm sure this is a very lively debate within the

01:24:06.020 the physics community yeah absolutely that's a really good example of newton where they were

01:24:10.240 or it's after newton really they saw that the the orbit of saturn orbit of some of the saturnian

01:24:17.180 moons weren't absolutely perfect and it just inferred that there must be a giant body beyond

01:24:21.940 saturn that's right that's right yeah that's what and yeah was it neptune was i right about that

01:24:25.560 uh yeah yeah and then they discovered neptune yes and then all of a sudden newton was vindicated

01:24:29.840 and yeah they realized oh yeah but it works because it's the same thing they see galaxies

01:24:34.140 is moving around at a certain speed and they say there's just not enough matter in that galaxy

01:24:38.380 for it to be moving like that so there must be way more matter in there we don't know what it is we

01:24:43.920 can't measure it we can't see it we'll call it dark matter for now but they could just infer that

01:24:49.220 it's there i mean it might just be i've seen other scientists say it might be we don't understand

01:24:53.360 gravity properly though it might not be there's loads of dark matter it might be that our just

01:24:58.240 our understanding of gravity is nowhere near complete uh i don't know i'm no scientist right

01:25:03.980 i got my c in gcse science that's it that's where i left it i'm just an armchair i'm just a fan of

01:25:10.940 it um but who knows who knows so bo's just the science fan boy yeah from the sidelines with his

01:25:17.900 big foam finger i love science yeah his reddit t-shirt i effing love science yeah the big science

01:25:24.860 trying to get a mexican wave going yeah with uh yeah a mexican hat made out of taco with cheese

01:25:31.740 in the top

01:25:32.260 cheering on science

01:25:34.820 on the sidelines

01:25:35.460 yeah I love it

01:25:36.220 yeah

01:25:36.840 who knows though

01:25:37.780 who really knows

01:25:39.040 it may well just be

01:25:40.340 what was it

01:25:40.980 Sigil Stone said

01:25:41.640 it's just all 0.55

01:25:42.220 hoo-ha

01:25:43.500 I mean Dark Matter

01:25:44.200 sorry

01:25:44.740 we don't know

01:25:45.420 Sigil Stone also says

01:25:46.580 it turns out Dark Matter

01:25:47.500 is green comes from

01:25:48.440 the US Treasury Department

01:25:49.580 and they always need

01:25:50.580 more of it

01:25:51.180 hmm

01:25:52.280 maybe that

01:25:53.360 and random name

01:25:54.340 said a Lagrange point

01:25:55.400 is it Lagrange or Lagrange

01:25:56.580 well you could probably

01:25:58.500 get away with either

01:25:59.040 pronouncing

01:25:59.360 one of those points

01:26:00.840 is a spot between

01:26:01.480 two celestial bodies where both their gravity pulls at the same strength making it very cost

01:26:06.040 effective to sit there fun fact halo rings sit in lagrange point i'm not entirely sure on that

01:26:11.500 last point that he's making there yeah so you can make an object like a space telescope basically

01:26:16.360 sit in the same spot in space making it very stable but they still need a tiny amount of

01:26:21.800 uh like uh what did you call it like booster rockets to sort of every now and again just a

01:26:26.600 tiny little tiny tiny little uh spurt of uh thrust or boost to keep them exactly well so

01:26:33.960 even though these lagrange points are sort of supposed to be very stable they're not perfectly

01:26:38.740 stable and so eventually something like uh james webb or uh or roman would eventually run out of

01:26:45.600 fuel like they think james webb's mainly only got 15 years and roman will probably have less

01:26:51.940 maybe they can refuel roman anyway um eventually these eventually these space telescopes will

01:26:58.080 become space junk uh but until then they should they should enlighten us about the nature of the

01:27:05.540 of the cosmos well you'll keep us uh up to date on it all won't you mr science yeah we've got no

01:27:11.100 video comments by the way okay great no video comment go through uh just uh the other comments

01:27:16.100 so Andrew Narog says

01:27:18.280 been a long while

01:27:20.080 since I've managed to catch the show live

01:27:22.040 happy to announce that Mrs and I are

01:27:23.900 expecting our third kid come April

01:27:26.100 amused to see that Harry

01:27:27.900 Robinson is on for me

01:27:30.040 making this comment

01:27:30.860 I didn't have to use my full name

01:27:32.060 nicknamed Harry

01:27:35.080 yes yes it's a great name

01:27:37.520 you should do it

01:27:38.740 and congratulations to you that's wonderful news

01:27:41.400 do you want to go through some comments

01:27:43.560 from your bit Harry? 0.66

01:27:44.160 Yes, Michael Drobelbis, more ingratitude from Israel that exists only because England ceded the mandate of Palestine to Israel.

01:27:51.600 It is a bit more complex than that.

01:27:53.600 They also felt that we went back on what they believed the initial Balfour Declaration was supposed to be.

01:27:59.160 They felt that we were not treating them well when we were still in the mandate of Palestine during the Second World War, for instance.

01:28:06.980 I saw, what was it they were saying? Yeah, yeah, I know.

01:28:09.980 Sorry, I've just seen a comment. Sorry, sorry.

01:28:11.880 that's all right that's that's all right um i saw i saw somebody earlier in one of the articles i

01:28:18.220 was looking at basically complaining that um uh it might it might be smart track or someone saying

01:28:23.440 that uh oh well you know like during the second during the second world war uh you kept us out of 0.50

01:28:28.940 the the mandate of palestine during the holocaust therefore it's we're okay to do anything to you

01:28:34.460 that we want uh so there is also like a grievance there despite the fact that we had a lot of you

01:28:40.120 know territorial concerns to be worried about at the time it would have been destabilizing for the

01:28:43.880 region at the time when we were kind of fighting a war um so there's a lot more to it than that 0.54

01:28:49.040 dreadnought logan why are you falling for the escape goat of uh the jews slash israel i believe 0.92

01:28:54.520 a lot of the this jew did it stuff is coming from our enemies like the communists uh and the third 0.87

01:28:59.320 worlders uh fair play i i think uh america is um holds a lot more power than they want people to 0.96

01:29:07.480 believe sometimes, and they would like to use

01:29:09.340 Israel as a bit of a scapegoat for some

01:29:11.360 of this stuff. Which is the one that you were all 0.99

01:29:13.380 laughing at? I think it's the next one.

01:29:15.760 Jimbo G, please no one clip

01:29:17.440 Bo calling

01:29:19.240 Melanie Phillips a nine.

01:29:23.120 She was at a nine,

01:29:25.700 not that she was a nine.

01:29:27.740 That's going to be maliciously clipped, Bo.

01:29:29.240 That's very different. Two very different things there.

01:29:31.280 I think you're going to have to recheck the science

01:29:33.340 on that one. Bo, people are going to be

01:29:35.220 atting her with that clip now.

01:29:37.480 you've got a secret admirer melanie oh la la ebony and ivory sewed together so beautiful

01:29:45.040 from my segment uh colin p says the doubly misnamed bio tapestry probably made by english

01:29:52.640 seamstresses and with a caption which um specifically says king harold is killed

01:29:57.820 totally undermining williams claim that harold was not actually the rightful king

01:30:02.160 uh i don't know about that perhaps someone knows more than i do honestly all i've been thinking 0.76

01:30:07.220 about with this transferring of the bay of tapestry is like please don't break the damn thing that's

01:30:12.020 the only thing i've been thinking the entire time and frankly i don't think i'm going to go and visit

01:30:16.360 it in the british museum i don't want to be part of just some mass queue of people like i'd much

01:30:22.640 rather go and visit some other time in bayou where i've been told by samson you got to sit in quiet

01:30:27.660 peace with barely anybody there which is obviously preferable actually it's an embroidery not a

01:30:34.760 tapestry oh yes it's does it i was i was going to make that point it's clearly not a tapestry

01:30:40.280 yeah we don't know who embroidered it where we don't know i read a whole book about the

01:30:46.300 bay of tapestry once and it was saying that it's probably commissioned we don't really know there's

01:30:51.500 no literary evidence and the the physical evidence itself obviously doesn't tell you

01:30:55.200 it's you're probably british made in england yeah probably made by english seamstresses but may not

01:31:02.560 May have been commissioned by Count Odo of Bayeux, one of William's brothers, probably a lot later, probably 10, maybe 20 years after the Battle of Hastings, they think.

01:31:13.620 But they don't really know. It's a fascinating thing nonetheless, but not a tapestry.

01:31:20.640 Well, there we go.

01:31:21.740 George Havre says, 1.00

01:31:22.800 The trouble with London is that it's filled with foreigners, including the clowns running it. 1.00

01:31:27.000 It's still one of the most beautiful capital cities in the world, 1.00

01:31:29.780 and we should fight to restore it to its English self.

01:31:33.100 Yes, absolutely.

01:31:34.200 And, you know, I'm not a fan of people who just say,

01:31:37.560 oh, we've lost London or we've lost Birmingham.

01:31:39.880 It's like, no, they're our cities.

01:31:41.640 We don't have any other cities.

01:31:43.580 Like, we should fight for them as much as we can.

01:31:46.020 It just might mean that the means of repossessing them

01:31:49.400 doesn't come from within those cities itself.

01:31:51.600 It has to be something solved electorally through Parliament and through re-migration. 0.85

01:31:57.200 And then, you know, it'll all become quite clear.

01:32:00.260 And last one then from Baron von Warhawk says, 0.78

01:32:03.340 that Indian festival in Paris looks like hell on earth. 1.00

01:32:06.260 Yep. 1.00

01:32:06.660 And traditional points about odours taken into consideration.

01:32:12.060 Go on then, Beau.

01:32:13.500 That's his tradition.

01:32:15.640 For my segment, someone calling themselves HM Sol Reaver Permit Registry.

01:32:20.780 says

01:32:22.680 I highly recommend that Bo read

01:32:24.860 the three body problem if he hasn't already

01:32:26.540 I haven't already I've heard of it but I haven't actually read it

01:32:28.640 so but a few people have recommended

01:32:30.860 it so maybe I would maybe I should

01:32:32.760 Geordie

01:32:35.080 Swordsman says Harry 0.97

01:32:36.760 can't get his blue space babes and

01:32:38.720 orange space babes straight he's a

01:32:40.840 fake fan blue space babes

01:32:42.880 are the best space babes

01:32:44.460 it's about time you were 0.98

01:32:46.820 called out on this

01:32:47.640 blue one from the prequels?

01:32:49.360 Ayla Sakura. Yeah, that was the one I was

01:32:51.380 thinking of. Killed an older 66. 1.00

01:32:53.560 Very sad. It's about the Star Wars universe.

01:32:55.700 Yeah, yeah, the prequels, you know, we

01:32:57.440 had to debate and decided they were the best.

01:32:59.200 Yeah, well, you got trounced. Yeah, I remember it well.

01:33:00.720 You just got angry and red-faced for about

01:33:03.420 an hour, didn't you? No, you wouldn't shut up for

01:33:05.260 25 minutes straight, weirdly. You just tried

01:33:07.340 to gish-gash it. You were poor arguments.

01:33:09.700 You had poor arguments. You had terrible arguments.

01:33:11.080 At least we had arguments. Well,

01:33:13.540 we had tons of arguments.

01:33:15.500 You just said they weren't. Go and watch it live

01:33:17.400 Go and watch it live on the website.

01:33:20.220 You'll see who won.

01:33:21.100 We're boring Harrison now.

01:33:22.140 It's gone half past that.

01:33:23.720 Yes, all right.

01:33:24.420 Well, we'll draw it to a close then.

01:33:25.860 Harrison, thank you for joining us.

01:33:26.900 It's always been a pleasure.

01:33:29.080 And thank you for tuning in, ladies and gentlemen.

01:33:31.120 And do be back for Breakfast with Beau tomorrow morning, 8am,

01:33:35.880 and obviously for the podcast as well.

01:33:38.060 Take care.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 09, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1502

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