The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1524

00:00:00.000 Hello there and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1524. I'm your host Harry

00:00:05.120 joined as ever by Brother Stelios. Hello Brother Harry, hello Brother Nick. Yes and Brother Nick

00:00:11.440 and we're going to be talking about the new developments in the H-1B war. You're going to

00:00:17.920 be telling us about the new war on the right. The so-called right, it's the war between reform and

00:00:22.180 Tories. Our reform actually going to mark out any different territory to the Tories now that we've

00:00:25.940 established the Tories are just Lib Dems. What's that Futurama joke from back in the day where

00:00:29.920 it's two politicians who are clones of one another and he's saying well i think your reforms don't go

00:00:34.640 too far yeah well i think yours go too far but not enough something like that basically just

00:00:39.200 arguing over the same thing and you're going to tell us about america being less gay yes i do i 0.97

00:00:45.240 i'm skeptical of that it's a very gay country uh it's a very gay country where have the lesbians 0.97

00:00:52.300 gone we're gonna talk about the lesbian explosion and then aim a song where have all the lesbians 0.94

00:00:57.560 something tells me that stelios's twitter algorithm has changed on him suddenly

00:01:02.420 and after we've done this we've got lads hour later and because we don't have uh dan and chat

00:01:10.720 gpt in today we've just gone for something very easy and we're going for omni guesser which should

00:01:15.480 be a good bit of fun if you like the looks of this lineup of this panel uh then get used to

00:01:20.600 it because we're who's going to be talking on lads hour later because we've got a little bit

00:01:23.920 of a skeleton crew today i don't think we should uh say this it's don't not if you like the lineup

00:01:29.700 it's show up we're gonna have fun look at look at us look at their expressions that's right or

00:01:36.440 not our real expressions but the ones in a photo which are also miserable me in particular i look

00:01:42.480 like i'm dead inside but you know kind of accurate anyway uh yeah tune in for that later if you

00:01:47.580 subscribe to the website other than that let's get into it so i'll start us off by talking about

00:01:53.860 the h1b war that is ongoing in america and it really is quite an interesting situation because

00:02:01.220 it appears more and more to me like it's kind of some kind of civil interfactional war going on

00:02:09.380 in america between the government and big business where the government is posturing as though they 1.00

00:02:14.660 want to prevent h1bs or as many h1bs from coming into the country they want to make it more 0.99

00:02:19.700 difficult. They want to make it higher status, higher paid wages for these people coming in so 1.00

00:02:24.300 they're not depressing American workers' wages and stealing so many American jobs. Whereas big

00:02:28.780 business, exerting all of the power that it has in Silicon Valley in particular, desperately wants

00:02:34.400 to flood labour markets within America with cheaper foreign labour that's going to work 0.99

00:02:40.420 longer hours and is going to accept worse conditions for the sake of getting out of their countries of 1.00

00:02:46.460 origin. And this has been ongoing since the beginning of the administration. We can all 1.00

00:02:50.160 remember back to last year when Trump's admin changed the H-1B visa rules where it was upheld

00:02:58.640 by a US judge that they were going to have a $100,000 application fee on H-1B visas. It sealed

00:03:06.360 the, according to Bloomberg, year of immigration chaos that is hurting, in particular, Indian

00:03:12.880 businesses and families and they try and frame it that it will also cost the us but really this is

00:03:18.080 something that has been very relevant to international relations with india as india

00:03:23.300 is where most of these h1b applications and registrations are coming from and they are the

00:03:27.860 ones who are marketing themselves on the world stage as basically being an infinite labor pool 0.64

00:03:33.340 particularly for tech bros who are going to be the ones accepting them how come this is flaring up

00:03:40.520 again now because this was massive a while ago when elon was getting all that football there was

00:03:44.240 a new development that happened last night when jd vance came up and announced some more changes

00:03:49.700 where they're revoking uh the ability of tech companies like microsoft and adobe to allow to

00:03:57.600 allow for their h1bs to apply for green cards using a particular program within h1b called perm

00:04:03.840 i think it applies to programs outside of h1b as well but it seemed particularly relevant with this

00:04:08.680 so they want to make it less attractive for these companies to bring these people in

00:04:12.340 by saying once you've got them in they will be on a limited amount of time you're not going to be

00:04:17.320 able to keep them permanently so it would be better off more better for you in the long term

00:04:23.100 to just hire someone who is born american and can stay here forever okay that's the change and we'll

00:04:28.820 get to that um i would say though that the statements of the trump administration versus

00:04:35.800 some of the actual track records have been a little bit schizophrenic to me there's a little

00:04:39.760 bit of stated versus revealed going on right now because when you actually look at the h1b visa

00:04:46.380 rate one of the things that they want to highlight in like fact sheets that they did recently oh my

00:04:51.760 god why is why is the white house website so full of pop-ups everywhere one of the things that they

00:04:57.540 wanted to highlight was that say for instance registrations for h1b which was changed from

00:05:02.920 a lottery into a more of a meritocratic wage-based system had dropped by almost 40%. Now, that

00:05:09.940 meant that they dropped, in terms of outside registrations, from about $480,000 at their

00:05:16.400 height to somewhere in the mid $300,000s. The H-1B program, though, still has a hard

00:05:23.780 cap of $85,000. I think it's $65,000 regular applications with $20,000 extra on top if

00:05:30.740 that cap is hit that has been hit both years in a row under trump's admin so even if the

00:05:36.140 registrations are down from almost half a half a million to about one third of a million they're

00:05:42.680 still hitting the cap so in terms of practical realities things haven't changed all of that much

00:05:48.760 and if you go to here the approval rate for h1b has hit 97 despite the crackdown and that is

00:05:56.720 almost Biden levels. It's higher than it's higher than Trump's first term. It's higher than Obama's

00:06:02.540 terms. It's almost Biden terms. And what that means is that 393,127 H-1B petitions were approved

00:06:13.460 out of approximately 402,770 process applications between years 2025 to 2026. If you're wondering

00:06:22.660 why that's so much higher than the 85 000 cap that i laid out a moment ago is because of the

00:06:27.400 fact that people who are people need to renew them and so they'll put in those applications

00:06:32.400 for renewal and apparently 97 of them will get approved that does mean that some of them will

00:06:39.100 be leaving though presumably they will need to be deported but either way it's something a little

00:06:46.220 bit different from what the administration's stated goals have been so what what you would

00:06:51.920 expect from the way that they've been presenting themselves so far this is still a very pro-immigration

00:06:57.120 administration just legal meritocratic immigration which in a way is still an improvement i mean we

00:07:05.440 also have to say that he does uh he has done some things about illegal migration oh yes of course

00:07:11.520 he's done lots of things about illegal migration if you compare the number looks like he has deported

00:07:16.560 way more illegal migrants than the h-1b applicants he seems to be hiring of course i think the big

00:07:26.520 issue that people have with h-1b is it's a statement of an administration's willingness

00:07:32.120 to allow outside labor forces to come in and take jobs which are seen by seen as by right

00:07:39.060 american jobs that should be saved for american workers the only thing i have here and i i'm not

00:07:44.480 talking about specific cases i'm you know i'm just throwing this to the mix is that historically

00:07:48.980 speaking especially in the last half of the 20th century the u.s has benefited from brain drain

00:07:56.060 so this isn't something that happened right now no i think i think it's a different character of

00:08:03.460 this it's the way people seem to as i understand it they're meant to come in for low skilled

00:08:07.220 they're meant to come in for very specific jobs they end up coming in for much less yeah they

00:08:11.780 They ended up coming in for, the accusation was they ended up coming in for much lower skilled things.

00:08:15.260 And then they give it to their cousins and friends and all.

00:08:17.340 This was the accusation.

00:08:18.520 And of course it went against the whole, sorry, ethos of Bannon and MAGA.

00:08:22.240 And the whole point was going to be jobs for American workers.

00:08:24.320 Trump 2016 is all about that.

00:08:26.060 And then it's like, well, it had been taken over by the libertarian tech boys who just want cheaper labor.

00:08:29.600 So there are two criticisms, judging from what I hear from you, is that the one is they're foreigners.

00:08:34.580 the other is these are supposed to be high-skilled workers but they end up being about low-skilled

00:08:40.920 workers depriving for jobs from america there was all this information that it was like an

00:08:46.060 it work on like 40 grand you know whatever it was it was all 60 whatever 40 60 i think they

00:08:51.040 were also finding that small diners and other kind of low-skilled wage jobs were hiring in h1b so it

00:08:57.940 seemed that there was in the way that in england we have a molecular kitchen you need the scientists 0.98

00:09:02.740 for that clearly it's a very high skilled jobs have you not seen videos of some brown person

00:09:08.220 flipping your uh flipping your pancake in a very spectacular way i'm sending you about 10 per day 0.81

00:09:13.520 this is this is true this is uh this is the reality of working in the lotus eater's office

00:09:18.200 um but one of the it seemed that there was a lot of fraud going on in the same way that we in

00:09:23.480 england have the visa fraud where say a care home will bring in loads of people like 700 people on

00:09:30.620 skilled worker visas despite the fact that the care home doesn't actually exist anymore it probably

00:09:35.320 isn't that bad or wasn't that bad but it was still along that same line um and again you you are right

00:09:42.580 uh that this is um something that they have been working to change the very fact that they've tried

00:09:47.200 to make it more wage-based and meritocratic does show that they're trying to clamp down on those

00:09:51.620 things but it also does demonstrate the kind of admin inter intergovernmental private public war

00:10:00.020 that's going on between an admin that is trying to uphold some of its promises and at the same

00:10:05.760 time big businesses who would expand this as much as possible there are also the other issues that

00:10:10.800 come with it as well which is these people will bring their families along they will apply for

00:10:15.480 citizenship so what should be temporary may turn permanent which will of course contribute to the

00:10:20.620 changing demographics of america in the long run even if it's only in dribs and drabs at first 0.87

00:10:24.740 and then i'm sure plenty of them will come over and immediately try and pump out a baby or two 0.68

00:10:30.880 so that they have you know oh i've got my citizenship right here you know i'm changing

00:10:36.620 its diapers every day you can't make me leave if i'm the father of a legal american citizen

00:10:41.280 i'm sure that there's plenty of that going on as well but the changes that have been made as

00:10:45.520 stated earlier when nick asked it is that they have changed the green card rules for the perm

00:10:51.400 program as part of h1b they've blocked multiple tech companies including microsoft and adobe

00:10:56.580 from applying for green cards for their h1b visa holders on thursday last night saying they would

00:11:01.740 no longer steal jobs from american workers this was an announcement made by jd vance using

00:11:07.020 microsoft in particular as a key example of the alleged abuse noting that the tech giant laid

00:11:13.760 off thousands of workers in the past year whilst still applying for h1b visas and subsequent green

00:11:19.400 cars so this is one of the big criticisms that people have of the program is that these big tech

00:11:24.140 companies were allowed to go like oh no uh we fired a load of people and oh we've got no one

00:11:29.740 to fill in the jobs that they were holding but you already had all of those people in work anyway 0.89

00:11:35.500 you've just fired them looks like we're going to have to hire a load of cheap labor from across

00:11:39.340 the world because even if it's still a relatively high paid job like i say those are the other

00:11:43.400 benefits that come with it you're basically getting a form of indentured servitude when

00:11:47.480 you're firing off american workers who expect a certain level of benefits a certain quality of 1.00

00:11:51.540 life bringing in people from the third world who don't expect as many benefits don't expect as 1.00

00:11:57.040 higher quality of life as them so there's a lot of benefits that come to the businesses and accrue

00:12:01.580 to them through that vance focused on microsoft in his speech but the department of labor also

00:12:06.120 suspended other major tech companies from the perm process on thursday u.s secretary of labor

00:12:10.820 Keith Sonderling said the IT outsourcing firms Cognizant, Infosys, Tata, Wipro, HCL, and Capgemini

00:12:19.620 would all be suspended from the program. Adobe and Microsoft suspensions were due to multiple

00:12:25.820 active federal investigations. So just to give a proper outline of it, the PERM program is the

00:12:31.740 system the DOL uses to issue what's known as permanent labor certification. It's not unique

00:12:36.220 to h1b it's commonly associated with high skill work visas which have a two-term limit of six

00:12:41.500 years so each each term is three years after that time companies can opt to apply for a green card

00:12:47.660 for that immigrant worker unlike the initial process employers have to prove to the government

00:12:52.140 the visa holder is the only person suitable for the role linked to their green card application

00:12:56.800 part of the issues for critics of the program is that companies can and often do just advertise

00:13:04.020 the role in a sunday newspaper perhaps some rural area where nobody's going to apply for the job

00:13:10.320 anyway and then nobody applies for it and they say well we've got our evidence right here no

00:13:16.440 americans want this job because i don't know a bunch of unemployed people in rural bum f nowhere

00:13:25.100 didn't think that they would be able to apply for a tech job it's a very easy system to gain

00:13:32.060 and they're trying to shut parts of this down just in time for the uh for the midterms as well

00:13:37.320 one of my big criticisms of this is that this should have been done way sooner i think as

00:13:42.700 they're worrying about getting towards the midterms then they're starting to implement

00:13:47.120 practices like this which are an improvement yes but should have been done from the word go

00:13:52.660 as far as i'm concerned sonderling vance and other administration officials laid out the issues they

00:13:58.100 see with the h12 green card pipeline labor secretary said that while the department had

00:14:03.060 uncovered 22 billion dollars in visa fraud what was announced on thursday was more valuable than

00:14:09.040 that fraud doesn't end with getting the job he said that job becomes a pathway for foreign

00:14:13.300 workers and their families to stay in america permanently and eventually become u.s citizens

00:14:16.820 who pays for that american workers and you can see here a clip of jd vance talking about this

00:14:23.600 let's just watch this so you can hear it straight from the horse's mouth there here's the basic

00:14:26.940 problem something that we've been working towards fixing in the trump administration for a long

00:14:31.480 time the h1b visa program is meant to allow companies to bring in really the best of the

00:14:37.800 best from outside the united states of america positions that are completely impossible to fill

00:14:42.920 with american workers unfortunately the program to pause it for our benefit so that my panel members

00:14:48.400 uh my co-hosts can hear it as well if one it wouldn't be fair otherwise it wouldn't hurt for

00:14:54.620 you two to hear what he's actually saying would it how are you doing nick i'm more of a rubio guy

00:14:59.560 anyway no no i like fans let's play it now here's the basic problem something that we've been

00:15:04.360 working towards thing is it's all it's all relative isn't it because when i see these

00:15:08.180 things i'm like yeah america's got a lot of demographics issues and when you get these

00:15:12.140 americans boasting online you know they have sort of worse demographics and so on but their

00:15:17.440 their wages are so much higher and they've done so much better with illegal migration on the

00:15:21.200 southern border sometimes look at all of america and think it's relative luxury problems because

00:15:25.000 you can work in a chipotle for three years and get a hundred thousand dollars a year

00:15:29.340 and you still a real problem oh yeah it's not something i saw the other day yeah

00:15:33.260 you are a comedian it's difficult to tell it was a three-year program it's like after three years

00:15:38.100 you'll be on a hundred grand it's like what and we're so poor compared to america this is definitely

00:15:42.180 an issue but i'm like their issues with yeah the economy is so luxury compared to us the scale of

00:15:48.020 what we're talking about is so much easier and america is such a huge country when i went there

00:15:52.460 earlier this year i was just amazed at the amount of space oh yeah that they have not saying that

00:15:58.240 you want to pack in as many foreigners into that space as possible trust me i don't want that for 0.91

00:16:03.700 you either what i'm saying is there's much more room in america where you can have enclaves of 1.00

00:16:09.960 people who are far away from these problems the problem is for younger people you know if you're

00:16:14.560 not a boomer whose mortgage is all paid for and set and you consider the house a financial

00:16:20.200 asset for yourself. If you want a good job that pays you huge money, then you probably

00:16:26.160 do have to move to one of these urban areas where you're not going to be able to afford

00:16:29.560 anything. It's going to be really expensive to live there, and you're going to have to

00:16:32.700 put up with all the problems that come with this as well.

00:16:34.400 It's run by communists like California.

00:16:36.340 Well, yeah, and you're going to have to put up with if you have children, they're probably 0.94

00:16:39.520 going to try and trans your kids in school when they go there. Is it working now, Samson? 0.97

00:16:44.560 it's fixing in the trump administration for a long time the h1b visa program is meant to allow

00:16:52.100 companies to bring in really the best of the best from outside the united states of america

00:16:56.520 for positions that are completely impossible to fill with american workers unfortunately

00:17:01.220 the program has become rife with fraud over the last several years probably the last several

00:17:07.120 decades and here's the basic game that american corporations and foreign corporations will play

00:17:12.000 They will say, maybe they'll put an advertisement in a small town newspaper, they'll go out there and say that we have advertised for a position with our company and nobody is responding to it.

00:17:22.620 And they will use that lack of a response to then go and replace American workers with what is effectively foreign indentured servants. 0.50

00:17:30.360 And I'll get into that in a second. 0.61

00:17:31.780 But these are not people who are coming into the United States of America, these H-1B visas, with the full rights of an American citizen or an American employee.

00:17:39.080 they're coming in and being mistreated by their employers and being used to undercut the wages

00:17:43.760 of American workers. Now, there are two ways this system fundamentally works. The H-1B visa is how

00:17:49.120 the people get into the United States in the first place. And then a PERM program is how those

00:17:55.560 employees stay. So after a couple of cycles of H-1B reapplication, the companies will then apply

00:18:02.780 for a PERM, a P-E-R-M, which will allow the employee to stay, get a green card and potentially 0.57

00:18:08.480 stay in the united states indefinitely so if the h1b visa is how people come into the country

00:18:13.420 the perm program is how they stay in the united states to begin with you all right there stelios

00:18:19.720 yeah okay all right thanks for checking thank you well i just wanted to make sure and um yeah

00:18:27.600 the funny thing about this that a lot of people have taken notice is because of the fact that

00:18:31.560 india is the country with most of the applicants that come through uh yeah they've seemed to some

00:18:37.460 parts of india seem to have taken this as a direct attack against them this is some account called

00:18:42.580 fi invest india hundreds of thousands of indians have served in the usa using h1b for decades now

00:18:48.260 if this is the kind of respect that indians receive in the usa then it is probably time

00:18:52.460 to come back and build in india that's a great idea actually why not build your own country

00:18:57.300 what a crazy idea yeah india is huge it's got a huge population huge labor base plenty of talent 1.00

00:19:03.560 absolutely build your own country if there is one place where there should be lots of indians

00:19:08.260 it is india and it is the same for chinese if there's one place where there should be lots of

00:19:12.460 chinese people it's china and a massive growing economy anyway india so it's not like it's a 7.8

00:19:18.320 growth rate in the past year so it's not like you're going to a total back where you can't yeah

00:19:22.340 i mean the per capita is the issue because last time i checked they have a gdp of 4.2 trillion

00:19:28.580 for those who want to do business in india maybe that's something they should consider

00:19:33.380 but it's um divided across a massive population yes with very different standards of living

00:19:40.140 depending on yeah i get that yeah i mean you could go in a nice chinese temple full of gold and stuff

00:19:46.840 i would never go to it's never gonna come up uh it was uh taken so seriously that the official

00:19:54.940 spokesman of the ministry of external affairs in india felt the need to actually make a statement

00:19:59.540 about this because presumably there'd be a big effect on his job we're aware of the u.s department

00:20:04.460 of legislation should be noted that perm is distinct from the h-1b visa program the suspension

00:20:09.120 of perm applications did not excuse me by itself affect the validity of h-1b visas all the status

00:20:14.860 of h-1b visas holders so he's he's putting this out there so that all of the diaspora can see that

00:20:19.140 listen they're not going to deport you straight away you probably have at least a few more years

00:20:24.260 and maybe if the next admin isn't a Republican admin maybe they'll just reverse this change

00:20:29.040 anyway but you know they felt the need to make some kind of statement about it so they do feel

00:20:34.000 that this is directly affecting them at the same time Elon Musk is going on the attack regarding

00:20:40.120 Starlink in India because there are parts of India which are not covered by Starlink I think

00:20:45.360 the population of India only what roughly 40% of them is actually on the internet Elon Musk wants

00:20:51.980 to make that 100 percent and he's uh claiming that certain oligarchs in india are blocking him

00:20:58.960 so that they can maintain their monopolistic chokehold on the indian people you can guess

00:21:04.660 who they are that's very cryptic who are you suggesting there elon this is a crime against

00:21:10.320 the people of india uh to which i would just say that elon is a self-interested actor

00:21:14.840 he is wanting to spread internet through american starlink so that he can spread

00:21:20.960 american influence in india and presumably grow his potential labor base as well because more

00:21:27.100 india more internet for more indians means more of them get to see all of their amazing

00:21:31.280 opportunities to come over to america and work for elon more generously they still get to get

00:21:36.180 on the internet it's like when he gave starlink to ukraine and people are criticizing it he's still

00:21:39.500 giving starlink to them so is it totally self-interested yes okay yes uh even outside

00:21:47.020 that i think but personally i i just think uh the the internet um is not good for lots of people

00:21:53.740 and i think that uh giving lots of people access uh to what is essentially a gigantic social

00:22:00.780 conditioning network for them all to be influenced by algorithms that's a bit cynic uh it is very

00:22:06.960 cynical yes indians are getting on only fans but that is that a luxury problem compared to no i'm 0.97

00:22:11.620 it's not the only thing you can find in the internet i'm just yeah i'm joking about what

00:22:16.120 he said i'm just i'm just saying if right okay i'm not the one saying i think it's still we are

00:22:20.040 we globalists i'm just saying if you're a globalist and is the internet a vector for spreading 0.52

00:22:27.920 globalist uh like globo homo culture uh excuse me that's i would dissect what you're saying 0.90

00:22:35.000 no it's a simple do you want me go jack nicholson you can't handle it it's it's a simple 0.52

00:22:40.260 question it is a very simple question if we are against globalism the internet is a prime mover

00:22:47.320 for globalist culture and homogenizing the entire world i don't think it's good to spread it

00:22:53.100 everywhere i was thinking i was thinking from the indian i was thinking i was thinking from the poor

00:22:57.480 indian's perspective he's not on the internet and maybe actually his life will improve if he's on it

00:23:01.500 i was just thinking in a very empathetic way i can understand your point your so your mistake was 0.99

00:23:06.260 you were just being too kind that's that's my problem because if you're like whatever musk 0.79

00:23:12.100 whatever musk's intentions are if you're not on the internet and you can't really do much when 1.00

00:23:15.460 you're in india somewhere in some background like you and you're maybe let's say you've got a high

00:23:19.380 iq but you're stuck then it would be a massive advantage to you i'm just looking at it very

00:23:23.460 excuse me i i will say this just because i i'm going to i want to be a bit balanced but i mean

00:23:30.420 And you can say that in some respects, Elon is a globalist, but for instance, X hasn't functioned always pro-globalism, right?

00:23:39.640 Several things that globalist media are saying are being, in a sense, falsified by things that had it not been for X, we wouldn't be able to.

00:23:49.400 It's very anti-EU, for one thing, for example.

00:23:53.440 Yeah, but why is it anti-EU?

00:23:56.140 Well, you're going to say because they want to restrict Musk.

00:23:58.340 well yeah it's because musk sees that as affecting his own interest musk i mean can we all remember

00:24:05.100 just two short years ago that elon musk went on a massive rant about how much he wants to flood the

00:24:09.860 markets with h1bs that was mental yeah yeah that's what bannon was just going what do you think he's 0.68

00:24:14.400 changed his mind on that no no and so why do you think he wants this no yeah true i'm just i'm

00:24:20.600 imagining i'm imagining i'm imagining from the indians perspective if i even though he's of

00:24:24.760 course musk's a businessman i'm just saying but i understand your point you're against the internet

00:24:28.880 i mean imagine you think we should just get there is there is an answer but why do we want to be

00:24:32.660 we shouldn't be doing this we should just be getting off the internet period then right and

00:24:36.180 getting back to i think it would help a lot of people but we live in the world that we live in

00:24:40.180 right now so i i either way uh so you know there's there's a lot going on with india at the moment

00:24:47.780 people are trying to use this to say that uh oh my god the indian stock market immediately dropped

00:24:54.060 therefore this is to do with the h1b program it's not actually there's a lot of reasons for

00:25:00.700 india's stock market sinking they do have a growing gdp but the stock market is sinking

00:25:07.200 why is that well if you look at some of the reporting that's going on it's the same thing

00:25:11.600 that's affecting loads of countries around the globe because of economic shocks to do with the

00:25:16.940 middle east rising global interest rates a falling rupee causing inflation and making it less

00:25:23.320 profitable for investors to invest in Indian stocks because they're getting a lower payout

00:25:28.660 and they also don't have anywhere near the same kind of level of AI infrastructure as we do over

00:25:35.580 in the west right now which is seen as an impediment to global prosperity and national

00:25:40.020 prosperity. We should actually be worried about this because if the while growing in terms of

00:25:46.500 pure GDP if there are inflationary risks economic shock risks all of these different economic 1.00

00:25:53.680 pressures facing normal Indian people that is a push factor for them to come over here 0.93

00:25:58.360 as with everything else especially with the Modi government actively encouraging it

00:26:02.960 as well similarly people are trying to say that there is the homeowning there's been a massive

00:26:10.300 break in homeowning oh my goodness 100% of all homeowners in Plano purchasing prior to October

00:26:15.960 2025 are all underwater the area is intense with h1b fraud activity defaults and foreclosures

00:26:23.040 accelerating and you can tell this is slop he's got the slop siren what he has posted is just a

00:26:28.320 picture of market value house prices this has nothing to do with the level of equity that has

00:26:34.460 been sunk into any of these places there was a community note on it earlier but it seems to have

00:26:39.820 been taken down it's only 1.5 percent of mortgages in the area uh being uh underwater with most

00:26:46.740 foreclosure notices having positive equity and also this would kind of go against if if donald

00:26:53.140 trump's government's measures appreciably affected market values of housing it would go against his

00:26:59.420 own stated goal of keeping america's house prices high because his boomer constituents want their

00:27:07.000 house values to keep growing there is something to say this before where you said you know what's

00:27:12.440 the about globalism and stuff is like elon is definitely not siding with either the pure

00:27:19.220 ethno state every country's 100 ethnically homogenous side on the one hand or the globalist

00:27:26.060 let's erase every identity side and i'll just say this i think this sort of flirt between america

00:27:32.880 in India is going to continue because if you see America wants to pressure China they want to have

00:27:39.120 very close relationship with both Japan Indonesia they want China India as well so I think that 0.96

00:27:46.760 the way I see it it's definitely more globalist if you'd like than this the 100% ethnostate

00:27:54.760 people want but it's i don't see it's it globalist as entirely you know erase every identity i see it

00:28:03.940 as we are geopolitical players across the globe and we are going to flirt with countries and

00:28:10.400 specific allies and i think india is one of them and also just bear in mind vance's wife is indian

00:28:16.420 so well no i'm aware so if vance is the next republican candidate for president i don't see

00:28:25.120 him as having a saying she'll bring a whole family in all her friends i don't see him all h1bs

00:28:30.440 several people forget white house yeah no no uh you are right there's different flavors of 0.54

00:28:38.280 globalism i'm not saying that elon musk represents the incredibly gay version he is representing the

00:28:45.320 globally homogenized economic markets all connected together under an american umbrella

00:28:52.780 and he wants to have a big part in that he wants to be able to have a global labor pool to draw from

00:28:58.480 for his own tech companies etc etc either way at the end there just cleaning up some slop claims

00:29:03.900 that you might have been seeing going along but overall these changes could be positive we'll see 1.00

00:29:09.300 how they go on because it could disincentivize these companies from hiring h1bs when they could 0.99

00:29:15.020 take american workers because they won't be able to keep them around forever and instead will have

00:29:19.060 to limit the amount of time they spend here will this make much of a difference in the midterms i

00:29:23.360 guess we'll have to see anyway let's go on to the uh rumble rents uh sigil stone die for israel

00:29:31.520 didn't work bribing the voters didn't work now they're being drag kicking and screaming to do 0.56

00:29:34.660 their job so the democrats will impeach and jail them all if they f the midterms that is uh one 0.55

00:29:40.100 way of reading what's going on here arch door the tech companies are just trying to bring leaks to

00:29:45.000 u.s most major game leaks have been traced uh back to india is that true i didn't i've not

00:29:51.120 heard about that sigil stern between this and grok acknowledging that christ is king

00:29:54.900 why do i care if grok has a finally he's acknowledged it grok tell me christ is king

00:30:02.160 christ is king oh my god i mean indians are facing apoplectic apocalyptic is at loss the 0.99

00:30:09.680 entire country will be having to say four bloody bastards to make up for it harry 0.98

00:30:13.860 speaking of is that loss do you remember the video i sent you with the two guys 0.98

00:30:18.900 running on a motorcycle hitting each other because they said it was for is that reason

00:30:24.360 none of them wanted to change course it would have been shame are you saying that a significant

00:30:30.880 part of indian culture is simply playing chicken i'm not making any generalization okay talking

00:30:36.660 about the video i sent you if you talk about is that you get like a thread from dinesh d'Souza

00:30:40.760 saying like why you don't understand is that and why he's totally assimilated and here's 90 tweets

00:30:45.060 about why india's amazing it is that dropped okay that's that's what we're finding out there

00:30:52.100 a drug dealer will give free samples that's a random name oh uh harry stopped reprimanding

00:30:58.740 stelios for using the internet to sell his only dance to third world as man's got kids to feed 1.00

00:31:03.760 this is true i'm sorry i didn't want to affect your business margins a cruel indians who live 1.00

00:31:08.580 in actual countries send billions back home it's literally india's pension scheme i mean that's 1.00

00:31:13.080 just the same with most immigrants across the world sending uh sending it back home this is

00:31:18.060 just a global problem and finally sigil stone grok specifically erased all gods other than 0.98

00:31:23.500 jesus from an image including hindu gods indians on twitter lost their ass so yeah based rock and 0.54

00:31:30.460 that's programmed directly by elon oh he's there saying christ is king christ is what if it was 0.92

00:31:34.920 just elon behind grok type it out himself yeah well sonic real time sonic says trans right yeah

00:31:40.780 well in my image sonic says christ is king how do you like that leftists good old grok oh is it my

00:31:48.900 bit yes okay so again i'm the normie talking about party politics but basically kemi bainock has just

00:31:55.800 done a massive tory party conference speech where she sounded like she was trying to appeal to lib 0.99

00:32:00.580 Dems, calling everyone racist, having a big

00:32:02.580 go at reform. And my question is,

00:32:04.640 will reform take this new opportunity to

00:32:06.460 mark themselves out from the Tories, partly

00:32:08.620 in policy and

00:32:10.180 sort of broadly culture, but also

00:32:12.440 will they seize the identity question

00:32:14.380 with the

00:32:16.420 Conservatives essentially saying, if you don't say that Kemi Bay

00:32:18.320 knocks English, even though until 10 seconds ago 0.91

00:32:20.420 she was telling everyone she was Nigerian or 1.00

00:32:22.400 Yoruba, you're basically a massive racist. 0.99

00:32:24.480 It opens up some space. And there is some indication 0.99

00:32:26.420 they're already doing it because Robert Jenrick

00:32:28.480 said some comments which we'll look at

00:32:30.340 and some others so that is my thesis sort of will they take some votes back from restore by being a

00:32:36.020 bit less wet on this question of what i'm calling identity broadly so all right on the actual policy

00:32:42.640 stuff just to start with the boring bit which you shouldn't really do on youtube but kemi put out

00:32:46.860 this thing the right way which was a manifesto essentially it's based on the right approach

00:32:51.200 which is a thatcher document when the toys were in opposition in 1976 they explicitly say this so

00:32:56.680 very much trying to channel thatcher and the question is does this actually differ from reform

00:33:01.320 in any significant way well um interesting well gawain towler addressed this question and he said

00:33:09.160 the right way eventually maybe and he's basically saying that it's the their booklet the tory's

00:33:14.980 booklet arrives where reform already stands a few years later and a size smaller so they're doing

00:33:20.940 basically little versions of what reform we're already doing is his claim though in a few areas

00:33:26.560 they're actually stronger or tougher surprisingly but let's have a little look at this because this

00:33:30.900 is almost a separate segment in itself you do have this handy little um actually makes it smaller

00:33:35.320 interesting you know this handy little thank you very much counterintuitive you have this handy

00:33:40.000 little chart on the uchr reform is stronger wants to leave completely but you know tories want to

00:33:46.200 leave a bit more carefully refugee in a responsible and carefully planned way don't you know what that

00:33:50.840 means so refugee convention legal entrance barred and chemies is a little more keep them for a

00:33:56.540 bit but we hold them and we reverse it if judges obstruct and it's all just basically tougher on 0.87

00:34:01.460 illegal migrants tougher on indefinite leave to remain tougher on welfare um tougher on legal

00:34:07.980 legal migration as well and on welfare savings and on net zero and employer national insurance 0.91

00:34:13.740 income tax civil service dei and you can go through it and basically see that they're a bit

00:34:17.820 tougher on all those they're a bit weaker weirdly actually we're not going to that they're a bit

00:34:21.660 weaker than the tories on a few areas quite surprisingly one of which is um well let me

00:34:27.980 just get them one of which is stamp duty which the tories are going to completely get rid of

00:34:32.520 defense spending tories are going further uh the tories want to deport foreign criminals for any

00:34:37.440 conviction above a parking ticket which i was stunned i had to find that in the original in the

00:34:42.660 original tory document that's actually real and they would get rid of the immigration tribunal

00:34:47.360 completely which is where like it's been abused by like palestinians using it when it's meant to

00:34:51.500 for ukrainians and the tories would scrap that entirely so he admits that actually tories go

00:34:56.600 further in a few ways gone i i have uh one contention with all of this i don't believe them

00:35:01.840 and he very much addresses that as well he says you've also given one paragraph

00:35:08.040 to the fact that you had 14 years to do this so why should anyone believe you he very much ends

00:35:14.340 by does it mention the boris wave at all which they have basically said no we're not going to

00:35:19.220 do anything about them over the past few days and also if anything we're kind of proud of it you've

00:35:23.700 got Niall Ferguson you've got Tim Stanley not only saying this has happened get over it they've

00:35:28.520 they've said finally this has happened it's immoral to reverse it Tim Stanley said yeah but

00:35:34.080 it's the use of the word finally as if this was just a logical conclusion to all of British history

00:35:39.780 following following the collapse of the Roman Empire what happens is the Roman Empire collapses 1.00

00:35:44.840 a thousand and a half years later you're swamped by third worlders in your homeland it's just the 1.00

00:35:48.940 obvious thing and it's a good thing i know it's it's disgraceful but as kohane says very similar 1.00

00:35:54.900 to you the voter is entitled to ask a simple question if you knew all this why didn't you do

00:35:58.220 it the right way never answers it's closing line promises there'll be more anyone who lived through 0.99

00:36:01.820 2010 to 2024 will hear that as a threat so yeah why could kemi not manage well she'll say she

00:36:06.660 wasn't in charge we're in the new management i'm the new boss all this kind of thing but

00:36:10.140 many will say why didn't the toys do it tim stanley drools from the sidelines mummy

00:36:14.960 so that is about the actual policy um so then you get into the danny kruger piece which is

00:36:23.040 quite interesting which is more about the soul as he calls it and the culture and even touches

00:36:27.120 on identity kind of so this is a danny kruger fewer subscribers than me doesn't matter who's

00:36:33.080 counting um so you apparently i guess he's more influential because he's writing things like this

00:36:37.520 so the tory party's lost its soul i left the tory party a year ago because i concluded they could

00:36:41.380 not save the country nor deserve to under kemi's leadership they were heading in the wrong direction

00:36:45.400 this week's tory party conference confirmed it the conservatives have abandoned the people

00:36:49.020 and the aspiration to be a national party they've lost their soul their politics are plain in their

00:36:53.400 new policies in focusing their tax cuts on the richest households he's talking about inheritance

00:36:58.320 tax for people for homes over one million he's saying that they're going for the relatively well

00:37:03.300 off instead of the people that reform are going for which is much more about things like by

00:37:09.980 contrast reform is going for employer national insurance contributions raising the vat threshold

00:37:14.820 and raising the income tax person allowance to 15 000 a tax cut for 40 million people i did see

00:37:19.740 as well in the last um in the last link that you had that apparently one of their ambitions was to

00:37:24.020 raise it to 20 000 pounds which would also be a huge improvement and these things were like

00:37:29.900 jenrik and tice are making these sort of sort of uh you know soundbite kind of threats to quit if

00:37:35.160 they don't hit them so i'd like to see someone finally everyone's always talking about raising

00:37:38.040 this allowance but let's see if they ever do it but whereas keby's just blatantly going for lib

00:37:42.220 dem she's saying you know we'll save you some money in inheritance tax join us we're not racist

00:37:47.420 so it's very much aimed at that with some caveats you know like that quite tough thing on deport

00:37:51.340 deportations it makes sense as well now you could probably levy the same accusations against reform

00:37:57.140 but the tories are explicitly only going to really tinker around at the margins of some tax codes by

00:38:03.720 the sounds of it when it comes to things uh like the um million pound houses and whatnot they are

00:38:09.580 still a party that is heavily funded by housing associations city of london bankers hedge funds

00:38:17.820 people of that sort who inherently benefits off of raising house prices yeah so and and their

00:38:25.040 constituents as well if you're talking about the southwest of england they oh sorry south uh

00:38:29.620 southeast of england they massively benefit as well from their own house prices uh prices staying

00:38:35.440 very very high so what incentive would they have to actually reduce anything that makes it more

00:38:40.320 affordable for the rest of us right exactly as always that trap so i'm trying to find a bit where

00:38:45.280 he says that anyway i'll just find it here it says kemi admits in passing that previous governments

00:38:49.460 have treated social integration as a managerial exercise rather than a moral one yet her own essay

00:38:54.060 takes exactly that approach on everything most of all she's neutral to the point of indifference

00:38:58.060 about the foundational institutions of our common life families communities and the nation itself

00:39:03.340 so he's much bigger oh here we go he's much bigger on nation and community and he says she mentions

00:39:09.740 the decline in birth rates without saying what she'd do about it nor any other plans to strengthen

00:39:13.540 family or community life indeed she's describing uh desiring stronger families and neighborhoods

00:39:18.620 as nostalgia and a wish to live in the past and it's actually completely true i checked it and on

00:39:24.460 page 56 of this document she says uh nostalgia helps us remember what we liked most about our

00:39:29.900 past and what we value but we cannot live in the past people heart back to an age where families

00:39:33.860 didn't just raise children but cared for elderly and other relatives where neighbors all knew each

00:39:37.660 other and helped one another churches clubs and voluntary organizations meant more to people

00:39:41.420 than the government or state did however we cannot recreate the past exactly as it was

00:39:44.700 government cannot manufacture these things when they disappear so sorry if you liked your high

00:39:48.820 trust society that's gone now but government did manufacture the conditions that made them

00:39:52.820 disappear in the first place but then again it's a lot easier to smash than build true as scrutin

00:39:57.960 famous he said pretty much um just back to kruger so yeah i thought that was a strange uh sort of

00:40:03.920 flippant paragraph but he goes on to say um there's nothing about national culture either he keeps

00:40:10.200 putting these things back so uh where was that here we are here we are so he's talking about

00:40:15.440 the nostalgia thing and he says that this does nothing to talk about how it's going to bind us

00:40:19.900 together there's nothing about the national culture except the insistence that immigrants

00:40:22.960 join it without specifying what it is the most detailed she gets is praise for the head teacher

00:40:27.680 katherine burblesing inevitably burblesing her stand against religious observance in her school

00:40:32.280 and enforced secularism kemi implicitly proposes for the whole country now so here krug is sort of

00:40:38.660 half right he's like yeah that is weird so if anyone doesn't know the michaela school

00:40:42.820 there was a muslim student trying to say why are we not allowed to pray and trying to push for that

00:40:48.180 and she stood up against him and said no no none of us pray you can't break the rule so it's a kind

00:40:51.880 of lowest common denominator thing it's like it's a kind of french idea it's like you can't have

00:40:56.140 christianity but you can't have that either but we'll all agree to just be nothing and we'll eat

00:40:59.780 vegetarian food which they do in the school and we'll all have no religion as a compromise i didn't

00:41:04.180 know they forced vegetarianism because some people don't like can't eat various meats so to all be

00:41:10.160 the same we're reduced to this lowest common denominator blob and everyone and before she

00:41:14.520 I am a lord.

00:41:16.120 Before she shouts at us, Catherine Bilbertson,

00:41:19.380 she has good grades and everything, clearly, and all that,

00:41:21.440 and she works hard and all this kind of thing.

00:41:22.940 But it's like, is that what you want?

00:41:24.700 It's kind of... 1.00

00:41:25.640 Do I want the grey sludge of multiculturalism 1.00

00:41:28.500 made into its most logical end? 1.00

00:41:30.800 No.

00:41:31.620 No, I don't actually.

00:41:33.320 No, that sounds terrible.

00:41:34.660 So Kruger's right on this.

00:41:35.700 She implies there should be no preference in our public life

00:41:37.680 for the inherited religion and culture of these islands. 0.99

00:41:39.660 Obviously, Kruger being a big Christian.

00:41:41.340 But yeah, he kind of misses, to me, that globalist blobness element. 0.76

00:41:43.960 but he he gets the you know cultural religious element of it but does he quite get the other

00:41:49.460 element i don't know but he does say identity matters so so here this is quite interesting

00:41:54.380 how is this doctrine going to bind us together how does the bold restatement of the social

00:41:58.340 conduct every citizen should stand before public institutions as an individual which is in kemi's

00:42:02.640 document suffice as a means of unity we cannot unite around an emptiness identity does matter

00:42:08.120 and a country without a sense of itself or the inherited culture of the majority

00:42:11.240 is not a country at all.

00:42:13.180 There is an issue with identity

00:42:14.660 that identity makes sense

00:42:16.700 only if it's exclusive.

00:42:21.140 You can't have an identity

00:42:22.900 that is unifying

00:42:24.180 if it doesn't leave someone out.

00:42:26.900 Yes.

00:42:27.920 So this whole notion

00:42:29.080 of an omni-inclusive,

00:42:31.220 every-inclusive,

00:42:32.380 all-inclusive notion of identity

00:42:34.160 as if it's a travel package,

00:42:36.240 it doesn't exist.

00:42:37.260 Yeah, well, Kruger...

00:42:38.040 Everything that we can think of,

00:42:40.380 every concept,

00:42:41.240 makes sense because we can contrast something to it yeah and i suppose what krug would say is he

00:42:47.420 would contrast the inherited culture and religion of britain but he he's a hardcore civic nationalist

00:42:52.900 so he would not say that it matters you know who you are i mean i've got the clip if we need it but

00:42:57.500 he says you know as soon as you arrive you're the inherited you're the same as alfred the great

00:43:02.440 and you're inheriting that tradition but he does sort of stand up for the cultural side whatever

00:43:07.440 that means and our religion meaning christianity so anyway this is what i mean when i say the toys

00:43:12.580 have lost their soul thatcher had an idea of britain that for all her no-nonsense grantham

00:43:15.980 pragmatism transcended pounds and pence and certainly didn't think the job of government

00:43:19.480 was one of mechanical tinkering nor buying the support of affluent southern voters and so and

00:43:25.160 he calls badenot the the atheist engineer he does he says a ridiculous thing about boris i can't

00:43:30.500 bother quoting but he says instead the divide we should worry about he talks about the divide

00:43:35.380 between immigrants so he does say this britain is broken it's profoundly divided the division we

00:43:39.900 should worry about isn't that between immigrants and the rest though there is an important divide

00:43:43.420 but it's the divide between the establishment and the public so he says that uh we've lost

00:43:49.800 we've got a big problem because parliament is nine tenths made up of mps who don't agree with

00:43:54.080 the values and attitudes of the public listen to commons debates on migration climate gender and

00:43:58.420 weep hard to disagree with that then he has this quite nice phrase at the end here he says the

00:44:02.440 common law has been corrupted by international conventions given the same indeed superior

00:44:06.740 standing as parliamentary statute and case law with the result that left-wing judges are persuaded

00:44:10.860 by left-wing lawyers to apply plainly balmy rulings on the basis of virtuous abstractions

00:44:16.020 masquerading as determining precedents. I like that phrase at the end. He's a decent writer but

00:44:20.720 you know he concludes it by saying the crisis of our times is elite estrangement and he's basically

00:44:27.500 saying we need elite defection establishment people like him helping the country to take back

00:44:31.680 the government he's saying if not you get revolution which is worth seeing in france and

00:44:35.980 germany and we need to avoid that he's saying but so he concludes between labor with the politics of

00:44:40.880 grievance and luxury beliefs and conservatives with the politics of affluent state sorry self

00:44:44.780 protection are fomenting a civil crisis that could overwhelm us there is an alternative britney to

00:44:49.580 reform so that's his take so he's quite strong on culture he's quite strong on elite estrangement

00:44:55.040 he he's better on the family and community rhetoric than kemi but the question is are they

00:45:01.180 really going to grasp this question of identity and here reform are really divided so famously

00:45:06.000 kruger had this clip which will just quickly play actually we should be saying as long as you are

00:45:11.260 if you are born here if you are you know you're you're a son or daughter of this country you are

00:45:17.340 the heir to alfred and william and elizabeth uh and victoria you know the great kings and queens

00:45:27.160 of england we all they they are the uh they they created the inheritance which you now have

00:45:33.060 so you arrive and you're just you're just completely english and you're the inheritor

00:45:37.020 well it was clarified in a moment after in the interview where winston marshall is quite

00:45:43.300 incredulous at that and fairly asks what you mean like if an afghan comes over here and has a child

00:45:49.380 there an inheritor of alfred's as well and he's yes yeah he doubled down yeah exactly so kruger

00:45:54.920 But despite saying all that about culture, he clearly doesn't think it has any sort of component about, you know, Englishness.

00:46:00.780 It's just you can all be English. So and it's all based this sort of new question is all based on Kemi very much distancing herself from reform and very much pivoting to suddenly being English.

00:46:12.940 And if you haven't seen this, Carl played it. Let's just have a quick look.

00:46:15.100 I don't want to live in a country run by people who threaten journalists, who call veterans

00:46:20.640 traitors, and debate whether my mixed-race children are English. I don't want to explain

00:46:27.400 to my son, when we're watching our brilliant England team play football, that some people

00:46:32.520 don't think our black players are English. I remember back in the day, when Ian Wright

00:46:38.300 and John Barnes were playing, nobody was questioning whether they were English. We certainly didn't

00:46:43.480 have sitting mps questioning whether they were english we must not let these people take us

00:46:49.620 backwards that is not the country we are reform mps are openly questioning people's identity

00:46:55.320 they are not like us we are not like them we are different we are the conservative party

00:47:00.920 always good to name the party you're in but i mean there's a lot of things with that i mean we know

00:47:07.460 and i've got the the speaking trust in case we forgot that kemi has called herself nigerian

00:47:11.880 she's even called herself Yoruba and spoken of her ethnic enemies in the north so she's massive

00:47:15.940 on identity we all we know she doesn't like Swala Brabham because she left the Tories but

00:47:20.540 basically Swala Brabham said look I'm not English ethnically and I want to be respectful to people

00:47:24.520 who have English ancestry I think of myself as British and this has led to a complete meltdown

00:47:28.620 from everyone and now we're all supposed to say that Kemi's English even though she's never called

00:47:31.780 herself English and we're also we have to also say that her children are English despite the fact

00:47:35.620 that even on the father's side they're Scottish yes Hamish Bainot there's there's a classic

00:47:40.200 english name if ever i've heard one scottish nigerian i mean just in case anyone doesn't know

00:47:44.340 it's really not a racist point to say kemi arrived under a law that was abolished shortly after it

00:47:50.560 started to be abolished one year after she was born was completely abolished three years after

00:47:53.460 she was born this allowed her to have british citizenship because her mother needed medical

00:47:57.020 help and had come over basically kemi's born then they leave again she grows up in nigeria for 16 0.70

00:48:01.740 years so it's like if you went on holiday to nigeria and with your pregnant wife in a misguided

00:48:05.800 away and she suddenly gave birth in nigeria then you came back to england you're like

00:48:09.320 would your child be nigerian did they waft the baby around and it just like absorbed englishness 0.90

00:48:14.040 you'd have about like a bit of say you hold it up like the lion king you'd have to believe that

00:48:18.920 to believe that she's not english in any sense now sweller who is respectfully saying she's not

00:48:23.660 english ironically has far more claim to being english because she did grow up in england and

00:48:28.260 she seems very english you know kemi sometimes reveals you know ways that she's not english 0.74

00:48:31.840 she doesn't like sandwiches she doesn't know birmingham's the second city she thinks she's 0.64

00:48:35.280 working class because she's had a job at mcdonald's so she says stuff that you would pick up which 0.99

00:48:39.220 you wouldn't hear soella saying so but we all have to now pretend she's totally english for

00:48:42.800 some reason so and i just the reason i and i just got my receipts here just to say there she is in

00:48:48.140 2016 talking about there's already a nigerian on the london first assembly london assembly meaning 1.00

00:48:52.680 i love the way that she she phrases that with all of the the black woman sass as well as well you 0.99

00:48:58.740 can you can almost hear the clicking of fingers as she's typing it out she is feisty and then here

00:49:04.540 this was only in 2024 where she said i identify less with the country than with a specific

00:49:09.400 ethnicity yoruba that's really what i really am i have nothing in common with the people from the

00:49:14.420 north of the country the boko haram where the islamism is those were our ethnic enemies and

00:49:19.280 yet you end up being lumped in with those people so kemi's not just like no whoa i'm not nigerian 0.62

00:49:22.840 i'm your ruba like don't lump me with my ethnic enemies and then so like it'd be like me uh in a

00:49:28.000 court me uh in an interview elsewhere i go hold up hold up i'm not english i'm mercy and don't

00:49:32.560 lump me in those filthy corners oh yeah exactly i'm from the borders i'm not yeah yeah it's like

00:49:38.660 i'm of the reaver people yeah i'm the reaver if you're not reaver i won't even speak to you

00:49:43.000 it's uh so that's how like kemi is like zoned in on identity but then we're suddenly meant to say

00:49:48.720 she's english even though two years ago she's saying something wildly different and actually

00:49:52.460 there's a little mini struggle session if you won't now say she's English and the question is

00:49:56.420 where are reform standing on this and well Suella's saying she's not English Tice is saying I won't

00:50:01.260 even go there. You wouldn't question the Englishness of Kemi Bader not would you I don't think Richard

00:50:05.100 Tice? Frankly this whole Englishness debate is something we just haven't got time for it's fine

00:50:11.840 if if the economy is growing and everyone's feeling rich and nothing better to do than to

00:50:15.840 navel gaze and discuss. Well tell Suella Braverman that because this comes from her this comes from

00:50:19.980 this comes with one of your lots i'm just telling you the country's going bust we face blackouts

00:50:25.500 and i'm not talking about any of those sorts of um nice to have debates when we've got a crisis

00:50:32.380 facing us we're literally and we've got we've got a diesel crisis so tice's thesis as well he's

00:50:38.700 getting around the question he doesn't want to completely dissuella so he says this is a waste

00:50:41.660 of time this is a luxury question the thing is it's not of course these questions come up

00:50:45.420 when the country's struggling under the weight of immigration with all kinds of divisions when we

00:50:49.820 we were doing well in you know like say the 90s or something this wasn't coming up it's coming up

00:50:54.840 because we're divided because we have so many problems and because the economy is not either

00:50:58.260 do you know something that wasn't the case in in the 90s um over a million boris waivers right

00:51:04.800 exactly so i just think he's completely i can see why he's avoiding the question but he's completely

00:51:08.640 wrong to say this is like a luxury niche belief it's like no this belief comes when times are bad

00:51:12.560 not when times are good and also kemi's saying oh back in the 90s they weren't questioning whether

00:51:16.080 these people were english no actually there were there were still plenty of people they were just

00:51:20.640 completely locked out of the political conversation whereas now uh they there is more room through the

00:51:27.100 internet for them to actually have a say i forgot to address that to the extent yes to the extent

00:51:31.260 people were saying that they weren't as much as they were now and the reason is as you said because

00:51:34.940 of the boris wave so the tories have created the conditions where more people will ask the kind of

00:51:39.560 questions kemi doesn't want them to ask it's like well maybe don't bring in the entire third world

00:51:43.160 if you don't want people to question identity so you did it to yourselves eat what you ordered

00:51:47.120 and by the way part of the myth of chemi i remember when it was john barnes she wasn't in the country

00:51:51.960 really when he was good point it's just like the made-up myth of chemi but um i thought harrison

00:51:57.880 put it quite well the conservative party is irredeemable and has to be destroyed if further

00:52:01.840 proof were needed its leading figures have made it perfectly clear in recent days that they are

00:52:05.120 wedded to the semantic and real world ethnocide of britain's in our one and only homeland i thought

00:52:10.080 was a good phrase semantic and real and you look and go is that too extreme you look up the

00:52:13.500 definition ethnocide i have no idea if you can say it on youtube whoops it's the it's a deliberate

00:52:18.600 and systematic destruction of the culture traditions language and social identity of an

00:52:23.100 ethnic group without necessarily killing the people physically well the social identity is

00:52:26.940 definitely something that's going on here because they're denying that there even is a exclusive

00:52:30.840 category called english right exactly and language has certainly been degraded you can argue by you

00:52:35.960 know so mle yeah and it's and then culture and traditions aren't they constantly isn't the bbc

00:52:40.620 constantly telling us we have no culture we have no traditions everyone was always here or that

00:52:45.080 the culture and tradition of just being able to take a nice quiet walk in the countryside needs 0.79

00:52:49.080 to have a load of third worlders air dropped into it right specifically to ruin it i think that's 0.98

00:52:54.880 almost exactly when you look at that definition what is happening you know it's it we never

00:52:58.840 existed it's a sort of post-modern way of erasing of people so except when they want to raise taxes

00:53:04.540 it's like schrodinger's culture yes it simultaneously doesn't exist but it's also

00:53:09.560 uniquely bad yeah exactly and has to atone for determines who needs to pay reparation i want to

00:53:13.900 give stelios some time so we're gonna have to bomb through this but basically it's okay take

00:53:16.940 your time well this is another clip with with a guy who basically ends up saying he's a chief

00:53:21.400 secretary to shadow chief secretary to the treasury and he just ends up saying that you're

00:53:25.040 not really a decent person if you i'll just quickly play a tiny bit of it charlie listen

00:53:30.420 Look back at her speech.

00:53:31.820 Chet Kemi was very, very clear.

00:53:33.160 She wants to unite the right, but not with that lot, with that set of...

00:53:37.920 And she went through a series of things about reform politicians.

00:53:40.640 So, yes, we do want conservative-minded voters who have looked to reform,

00:53:44.520 who have been put off, I have to say, by the donations,

00:53:47.220 by some of the sort of views on race,

00:53:50.080 those decent people who've perhaps been...

00:53:53.940 had sort of thought the Tory party had lost its way.

00:53:56.260 Kemi has shown the conservative way forward.

00:53:58.960 she's basically saying you're not decent unless you accept all this lie that that you've got to

00:54:04.160 deny the english exists you've got to accept the boris way you're allowed to comment on the boats

00:54:08.060 for now he ends up saying but you know you've got to buy into all these lies and then you're decent

00:54:12.140 if not you're just a big reform racist to the point where they're they're risking they want

00:54:16.680 to lose the election so i mean here hodges says that there'll be no uniting the right she wants

00:54:21.960 to crush reform it's like just because suella bradman said she's english she's not english

00:54:26.920 she's not English

00:54:28.140 you're going to destroy 1.00

00:54:29.040 any coalition

00:54:30.440 and go like

00:54:31.120 totally anti-reform

00:54:32.040 Suella Braveman goes like

00:54:33.840 oh by the way

00:54:34.380 I'm actually

00:54:35.080 I'm actually Indian

00:54:36.240 why do you keep saying

00:54:37.760 I'm English 0.99

00:54:38.240 and they're like 0.97

00:54:38.800 no

00:54:39.140 and they're trying to 1.00

00:54:39.640 force it down her throat 1.00

00:54:40.640 and that's now going to 1.00

00:54:41.340 destroy the whole coalition

00:54:42.320 and the whole election

00:54:43.320 it's so insane

00:54:44.480 and especially when

00:54:45.100 yeah 0.92

00:54:45.260 Kemi's like

00:54:45.960 we're supposed to celebrate 0.96

00:54:46.720 Kemi saying she's Nigerian

00:54:47.860 but not celebrate

00:54:48.860 Suella Braveman saying

00:54:49.560 the rules are very confusing

00:54:51.240 I'd love to hear

00:54:52.600 Andy Burnham's thoughts

00:54:53.600 on this question

00:54:54.260 I'd just like to hear him go

00:54:55.260 well she ain't from

00:54:56.640 manchester and that's enough for me and eric corpus these serious people like eric corpus

00:55:02.040 a serious scholar is saying we've got to have a more serious debate on this and he wants to see

00:55:05.900 that from these politicians i do think i would really like reform or other politicians to be able

00:55:12.700 to be a bit more nuanced in what they're saying like to say um yeah i mean in terms of english

00:55:24.400 national identity you know it is something you don't have to be white to be English by nationality

00:55:31.680 but it it matters considerably that the ethnic composition of the country

00:55:38.640 is changing rapidly that's unsettling to a lot of voters that's a legitimate

00:55:42.880 anxiety and we're going to we're not going to stigmatize that as racist i mean that 0.92

00:55:47.920 i would love to hear something like that come out of the mouth of a Jacob Rees-Mogg or a Kemi

00:55:53.120 i i just haven't seen a a more mature conversation emerge here unfortunately it's just there you go

00:55:59.800 so you know can we have a mature conversation about it apparently not and that was on steven

00:56:03.860 edgerton's channel check him out he's always excellent so all i've seen is sort of attacks on

00:56:08.880 there's clearly a line gone out to attack kemi um leila cunningham saying that you know she's

00:56:13.660 technically african as well but she doesn't she doesn't prioritize africa like in these clips

00:56:18.680 from Kemi and then you've got Campbell Bannerman saying which country is Ulu Kemi seeking to

00:56:24.220 represent so they are sort of attacking it this could just be opportunism really sorry I thought

00:56:28.540 Kemi was English this is a reform councillor she's been saying all week but there's always a tweet

00:56:32.520 and he shares that tweet saying she's Nigerian Gawain even a bit more subtly says this is the 0.76

00:56:37.260 problem with political certainty and opportunism dressed as morality there's always a tweet

00:56:40.360 so they're all sort of pointing out the hypocrisy but that's just sort of attacking Kemi because

00:56:45.580 it's easy to do but how are they going to get serious on on this identity question try and like

00:56:50.000 you know seriously grapple with it well jen mick says they are he sometimes comes out with these

00:56:54.440 things this is one of them 60s we've ended up in a country where there are millions and millions

00:57:00.000 of people who have a british passport in their bedroom drawer but who are not culturally british

00:57:08.040 by my standards are not culturally english either and are not are not ethnically english as well and

00:57:14.960 And that is a world away from this country as it was 50 years ago,

00:57:20.560 certainly 100 years ago.

00:57:22.160 And this debate is a perfectly normal one for us to be having.

00:57:25.780 So there you go.

00:57:26.680 So fairly, I'm shocked that Jenrick actually went that far

00:57:29.780 as to point out that, by the way,

00:57:31.660 I share no ancestors with these people going back thousands of years.

00:57:35.220 Yeah, it's fascinating.

00:57:35.940 He'll sometimes come out with these things

00:57:37.100 and then he'll sort of walk it back later maybe or tone it down,

00:57:39.680 but he'll suddenly talk about Englishness.

00:57:41.040 He does go there sometimes.

00:57:42.340 Now, is it just, you know, opportunism?

00:57:45.000 People are attacking him for this, of course,

00:57:46.820 and saying, oh, if Jemmik changes his mind.

00:57:48.980 And a good point from Charlie, you know,

00:57:50.900 Farage says anyone with a British passport is British.

00:57:52.960 Jemmik says millions of passport holders are not culturally or ethnically British.

00:57:55.840 Which is it, Reform Party UK?

00:57:57.100 And that is my question really today.

00:57:58.500 Which is it? Which way will they go?

00:58:00.520 Because you've got Suella saying one thing more, perhaps like Jemmik,

00:58:04.260 and then you've got other people saying something very different.

00:58:07.480 Farage and Tice won't even go there.

00:58:10.000 So Zia hasn't really got...

00:58:11.160 So all Farage has said is Kemi's speech today confirmed what we already knew. 0.95

00:58:14.160 She has no vision for the country.

00:58:15.480 More like Kruger focusing on the vision.

00:58:19.300 And then Zia Yusuf hasn't really commented as far as I can say.

00:58:21.620 I mean, he normally goes furthest.

00:58:23.080 He's just down there checking out the boats and stuff.

00:58:25.700 And he seems more absorbed in that.

00:58:27.440 So you wonder which way are they going to go on it.

00:58:29.460 And obviously, they'll get called evil for addressing it.

00:58:32.400 Ben Obees-Jekti of the Tories says, he's talking about Jemmik's comments.

00:58:36.640 And he says, reforms dangerous descent into the gutter of dog whistle racism,

00:58:40.060 balkanization and ethno-nationalism is going to fail but in doing so it's going to cause

00:58:43.400 irreparable damage to britain and make it far darker and more dangerous place oh sorry this

00:58:48.740 guy who calls himself an anti-fascist conservative says it's just an absolute disaster the racists

00:58:53.800 want to divide britain along ethnic and religious lines he's talking about the debate to engineer

00:58:58.560 a lebanon see i would have thought that uh the people bringing all of the foreigners in were

00:59:04.500 the ones doing that actually right it does seem like victim blaming and he's got an eu flag in

00:59:08.860 bio and he's basically saying if you don't if you don't if you don't disagree with kemi herself

00:59:13.240 about her own background you're evil basically um and i i want to add this as a caveat just to say

00:59:19.020 that even if you do try and address this question uh duchenne's here if that's how you say his name

00:59:25.180 is okay thank you is basically arguing that you can never do this in in a in a liberal society

00:59:31.660 the whole thing's really against you from the start because the state has no right in a liberal

00:59:35.060 society to mandate any ethnicity is the correct one just has no right to mandate any religion or

00:59:39.140 culture so he's basically saying none of this will work what this was in response to carl saying

00:59:43.840 we need to win this argument he and basically he's saying you can't win the argument within

00:59:47.980 this paradigm and in this frame so i wanted to add that just in case anyone well said that

00:59:51.940 duchene is great and just to highlight i have interviewed him uh the end of last year it's

00:59:56.500 available on the website on the lotus eaters.com uh youtube channel as well so you should watch

01:00:01.100 that if you haven't he's a really really fascinating guy there you go and so that's that's it just will

01:00:05.740 reform take on this new potential ground that the tories have opened up by being total lib dem

01:00:10.100 wets or will they not because they'll get called evil and racist or will they have a serious debate

01:00:14.900 like eric corpman wants or do we just have to rely on smears so that's my bit all right then got a

01:00:19.520 few rumble rants quickly go through a couple and then we'll get to stelios uh december 3rd i think

01:00:24.640 don't take that to the bank his lotus seat is going to live react to the live stream of the

01:00:28.340 fort hood shooter getting waxed i heard about this apparently hegseth's having him publicly

01:00:32.900 executed live on television uh maybe maybe it could be some nice festive fun a miller nigerian

01:00:39.180 scottish children are in no way ethnically english from a scot and of course the scots are 0.84

01:00:43.580 going to be the first to point that out that you're not english one tall order we must never

01:00:47.720 go back so kemi by default admitting they are progressives what is the point of calling

01:00:51.560 themselves conservatives what have they conserved great point base tape echoing that can somebody

01:00:57.140 please start asking members of the Conservative Party what the word conserve means. I don't think

01:01:01.200 they know. Thank you. Right, for decades now, the left has been obsessed with sexuality.

01:01:16.840 It has turned sexuality into a flag. You walk down the street, you see pride murals. The train

01:01:23.620 approaches you see it painted with the trans flag or the pride flag everyone's obsessed with 0.92

01:01:29.520 sexuality but i have news for you america is less gay now have they managed that it peaked 0.77

01:01:37.300 the gayness peaked in 2023 and now it is less but now because we found a cure ellen de jenner 0.89

01:01:46.020 came to england that's what happened don't live in the cotswold right the magnitude of her gayness 0.85

01:01:51.280 alone was waiting it right so there has been some hysteria about uh donald trump here we have 0.71

01:01:58.560 whoopi goldberg warning that trump will disappear gay people and journalists if he returns to the 0.82

01:02:06.420 white house that's not what happened the most pro-gay like president of all time like in show 0.94

01:02:12.360 business most of his life constantly famously the menu clip you know the menu is like hey that's why 0.93

01:02:17.600 we have menus in restaurants he said are you gay he says that one of the panelists i knew you

01:02:22.220 yeah he goes yeah that's fine with that that's why we have menus in restaurants i like the steak 0.96

01:02:25.640 you like you like the sausage right but this kind of hysteria is typical of the mainstream media

01:02:33.680 hysteria here we have white house denigrates non-cisgender people on trans their visibility

01:02:39.760 that's from april first and i want to show you non-cisgender means a trans or not i mean it's

01:02:50.180 non-cisgender means non-normal yes but i know just phrasing it in terms of non-cisgender rather

01:02:55.260 than just saying that i think it's reversed the whole thing's a tongue twister yeah yeah i want

01:03:00.820 to show you some headlines and some articles by mainstream media here it says what's behind the

01:03:07.580 rapid rise in lgbtq identity that's from the 6th of march last year said nearly one in three young

01:03:15.340 women are lgbtq so they do speak of a lesbian explosion which we're gonna talk about in the

01:03:23.980 in the as the segment progresses because there it is well documented but suddenly something happened

01:03:31.900 and we don't know where lesbian their lesbians have gone so maybe you've got it but bisexuality

01:03:37.760 went way down which is well yeah where do you think all of these one in three women were

01:03:41.960 identifying as yeah right look at this here almost 31 percent in 2024 right so it says here

01:03:49.540 the steady rise in lgbtq identity among the public is worth noting but it's not the most important

01:03:55.100 part of the story most of the haptic in the lgbtq identity over the past decade is due to a

01:04:02.720 dramatic increase among young adults particularly young women the gay the the male gays are a bit

01:04:09.500 more stable but the women in particular i suppose this has been the lesbian decade if you're if you're

01:04:16.640 a guy saying you're gay i suppose there's something you've got to kind of stick with it a little bit

01:04:21.000 more don't you you've got to make more an innuendo or something you've got to make more of a are you

01:04:25.200 trying to make a pun is that pun intended or not that's up to you i'll i'll leave that up to you

01:04:34.380 right okay so let's say the gender gap in lgbtq identity has exploded as well we had the gay

01:04:41.680 explosion spearheaded by lesbians a decade earlier young women were only slightly more likely to

01:04:48.240 identify as lgbtq than young men i think they forgot the plus the 2ia perhaps that's a very 0.74

01:04:55.280 uh who knows how much they that's a very phobic i think they wanted to keep adding more letters

01:04:59.760 on and then they just got bored of it so for instance in 2015 10 of young women and 6 of

01:05:06.460 young men identified as lgbtq over the next nine years lgbtq identity increased by 21 points among

01:05:13.620 young women and only six points among young men there is now nearly 20 point gap in the sexual

01:05:20.020 identity of young women and men before we move on with a segment why do you think that is do you

01:05:27.040 think that's true and if yes why well i mean it's a trend it was just a trend this is a obvious

01:05:34.400 obvious social trend unless following joe biden's presidency joe biden himself managed to identify

01:05:42.020 the cure to gayness and administered it to children across america it was the water it was 0.98

01:05:46.340 turning the freaking women gay what what what would the uh what would the ed dutton explanation 0.97

01:05:52.300 you're probably well read up on this well it'll be something about dysgenics and borderline 1.00

01:05:56.540 i would disavow your statement because based lesbians do exist historically uh evolving in 1.00

01:06:07.840 harems women are more likely and more developed to be able to switch between them you know

01:06:12.600 it's obviously it's young women thinking it's cool to say they're bisexual lesbians when they're not 0.99

01:06:16.260 this is that's all it is is it more like they want to decompress and they're more prone to

01:06:20.820 experimenting it's just a thing you say i remember it's i i don't get into too many anecdotes about

01:06:26.360 it but basically about all your experiences i was doing i was in a gig and i was talking to i've

01:06:31.320 talked to young women at gigs and things and i they always were like oh yeah you know i kissed

01:06:35.140 a girl and my friend and i'm kind of like i'm kind of like bi it's like you're not you're just a 0.99

01:06:39.960 young woman in your 20s who's an idiot yeah from your from your estimate and your diagnosis of 0.97

01:06:45.820 the lesbian continuum yes and i've done a lot of things that the 10 of the lesbians there look at 1.00

01:06:50.880 the other ones and they say no these women they're they're phony they're fake they're fake oh yeah 0.99

01:06:56.920 yeah yeah that's disgusting they're like no you kiss one girl once this is a this is a commitment 1.00

01:07:01.460 this is a lifestyle yeah it's not a lifestyle choice yeah yeah you're fake and non-gay gonna 1.00

01:07:07.020 cut your hair short you've got to be able to change a tire there's all sorts of i don't know 1.00

01:07:10.740 how it works you've got to be able to do your own oil changes so the narrative the mainstream

01:07:16.300 narrative was that all this is about social acceptance public condemnation social stigma

01:07:21.440 and we have people asking back in 2014 is america becoming gayer from kashaf majid as well yes and

01:07:30.340 he he loves it absolutely and it's fantabulous despite the efforts of few legislators in arizona

01:07:39.240 america is becoming more gay it's becoming less gay right um here they say on nbc news

01:07:48.440 americans are identifying as lgbtq more than ever paul finds one in six members of gen z

01:07:57.720 identify as something other than heterosexual this is the othering of the set of sexuality

01:08:05.380 you know in in critical studies where you have the mainstream and the other

01:08:09.680 one in six it's the other could it be a trend yes right okay he's gonna keep asking that and i'm

01:08:19.900 just gonna keep saying yes i think things just stay the same and the left really struggles with

01:08:24.140 this fact about we probably have the same percentage of gay people basically all the time

01:08:28.140 forever and then they just come up with these trends to you know try and change fundamental 1.00

01:08:32.900 realities i bet it's always going to end up falling back to the mean and being exactly the

01:08:36.500 same yeah it's like i know i know you're going to make fun of me because i'm athenian but i mean 0.74

01:08:41.140 the whole thing all all of the athenians were gay it's just bs right only the really smart 0.87

01:08:46.480 philosopher ones were and that's because they were in those little towels so it was just 0.99

01:08:50.240 we're going to gymnasiums and gooning listen when you're doing like naked wrestling with the other

01:08:57.320 philosopher bros okay sometimes something slip where they're not supposed to right okay so an

01:09:04.660 estimated 5.6 percent idea of americans identifies lgbtq that's 2021 now that roses says lgbtq will

01:09:14.600 exceed 10 percent in the near future again by nbc then we have this from news gallup says l in 2022

01:09:23.800 lgbtq identification ticks up to 7.1 percent then again by gallup next year no 2025 it rises to 9.3

01:09:34.620 percent things seem as it seemed as if they became gayer what's what's the end point of this is there

01:09:41.740 a time that these uh news organizations were looking forward to when humanity just stops 0.96

01:09:46.820 because every 100 are gay hyper gayflation people you can't even get a loaf of gay bread 0.89

01:09:53.820 people are queuing for gayness to be fair when it eventually comes out my weimar video will cover 0.94

01:10:03.000 this in a little bit more detail but within weimar there was a bunch of different competing visions

01:10:07.760 of the gay future and there was the gay fash uh the the fascist gay vision was that all of the

01:10:16.060 biggest high status like smart philosophers will be greek style gay men and women will only be used 0.99

01:10:23.140 for breeding purposes will begrudgingly have sex with women so we can keep having children but 0.98

01:10:28.540 other than that we're all just gay a lot of great thinkers have been childless i had this argument 0.98

01:10:32.060 with car and some of them were gay but is this your own excuse i'm just a great thing unrecognized 0.90

01:10:36.980 in my time um but once they get those artificial wombs you'll be able to be gay as you like right 0.96

01:10:42.840 once they don't need to you know you can just make a baby in an article you know those artificial 0.55

01:10:47.000 wombs they're ai but one day might be i'm sure i'm sure you're looking forward to it yeah

01:10:50.400 there was a massive hype um and and uh more and uh i do think that to a very large extent the 0.70

01:11:02.820 biden presidency was the gayest presidency right i have some of the gayest hits here the kamala 0.94

01:11:09.160 one would have been even gayer but we never got it i mean she was brat she was brat af 0.93

01:11:13.840 i don't know i don't want us to have a kamala presidency right so here we have jean pierre 0.74

01:11:21.160 saying ben labolt is making history the first openly gay communications director here they

01:11:27.520 talk about secretary pete boutique the first openly gay white house cabinet secretary um

01:11:34.640 here we have jill biden's press secretary michael la rosa was forced out of white house

01:11:40.640 after he tried to take gay dates to his room on secure floor or hotel where president was staying

01:11:47.040 during nato summit in madrid so you give him an inch this is what i'm saying give him an inch of

01:11:52.560 what leeway and then soon it's gay dates in the nato summit that's all i'm saying right here we 0.89

01:11:59.520 have the pride house wait before we have here some brinton with his dresses here and his kinky 0.83

01:12:08.160 outfits here he has a doggy that he wants to take out for for a walk here we have an admiral 0.98

01:12:15.280 right so you get it the biden president he got real gay he's got real gay for a minute there 0.98

01:12:21.200 yeah here we have i can't show this on uh on on youtube because it involves someone going topless 0.96

01:12:29.520 at a white house event i'll show you some of the nice photos i don't think that i'm allowed to show

01:12:35.920 you more but you will see here of the kinds of stuff so the biden presidency and the mainstream

01:12:41.680 media they really try to uh remind me basically to pause it before you see the boobs um why don't

01:12:47.280 we just why don't we just pause it now that's one idea yeah i want you to be exposed to this

01:12:54.160 site there's something so postmodern about it it's like the biden

01:12:59.520 it's so weird control of the mouse right so it is biden there in his sunglasses there's something

01:13:04.400 so strange about it the conflict gone i like living dangerously we are gonna stop it right

01:13:08.800 before the boobs show up right i'm gonna i'm just gonna keep hovering right okay so uh he

01:13:16.720 derailed my train of thinking sorry right the um biden administration and the and the msm we're 0.95

01:13:25.560 trying to tell everyone essentially that gays are everywhere and everything's gay this is why for

01:13:31.320 instance the last 30 series i've watched on netflix have lesbians in them yeah because they're trying

01:13:37.800 to make it happen but that that sounds like yes that sounds more like a choice yeah and all my

01:13:44.940 adverts that pop up always advertising lesbianism brother harry my personal

01:13:51.580 stelios is a connoisseur of lesbian romance right all i did was type in lesbians and now

01:13:56.620 all i see is lesbians he and nick buckley are doing some weird study together excuse me harry

01:14:02.700 whose specialty is gays in weimar talking about the different the different visions of the gay

01:14:09.820 I'm a student of history thank you very much it's a broader it's a broader historical study

01:14:20.640 and it has grown into something wildly outside of my imagination exactly this is why I think we

01:14:25.840 need to remind uh the audience and everyone in the west that we do not live in a post-historical

01:14:32.420 society the dangers of history are also the dangers of now we shouldn't think that watch a 0.97

01:14:38.760 bunch of gay porn to research it that was why you you type in why my porn 0.99

01:14:48.580 maybe you were gay hyperinflation porn that's all he's into 1.00

01:14:53.380 you start normal man and woman and then it just escalates inflatable right so there is a new 0.98

01:15:03.820 report by the center for heterodox studies talking about uh number five the decline of

01:15:10.700 trans and queer identity among young americans i don't see the document here and i had really

01:15:16.420 good stuff to show you i think if you hit download file it'll open it maybe it's just a pdf form

01:15:21.860 yes because i wanted to show you here uh i'll re samson could you please um talk about this

01:15:31.340 meanwhile we're gonna take a short break talking about the gays in weimar oh okay what you want

01:15:36.140 more uh there you go someone says someone says gays in weimar sounds like a musical it already

01:15:41.900 exists it was written by christopher isherwood it's called cabaret oh true okay so here there

01:15:46.940 was this uh mega survey and this is from eric kaufman that you also showed yeah on your segment

01:15:55.340 right so he talks about patterns of gender identity and i'll show you here some graphs

01:16:01.720 it says here share of students not identifying as male or female you'll see according to all

01:16:09.320 of these studies they sort of peak in 2023 and then there's a sharp um decline right i'll go

01:16:17.400 downstairs says well this this is this is one thing just quickly is that i saw loads of people 0.95

01:16:22.060 trying to attribute this to trump's presidency oh my god trump is literally going to kill all 0.98

01:16:26.620 gay people which is why they're not identifying it as it anymore but the dip starts to happen 1.00

01:16:31.360 during biden so perhaps biden was just that attractive to young women that they realized

01:16:38.280 that they were straight this was some this was something the democrats were trying to stop being

01:16:42.260 cool after a while you know if yeah or a load of people saw that everybody in the year above them

01:16:48.020 was saying that they were gay and they were like this is cringe now you know peak woke and some

01:16:51.600 say is 2020 right and then 2021 and then it just goes down after that it's pretty straightforward 1.00

01:16:57.360 we need to talk about brown university here because i think it's the gayest university

01:17:02.480 it says here they put that in the brochure yeah so it showed that heterosexual identification

01:17:11.760 from 2029 to 2020 it was stable to close to 80 percent and then in 2022 it fell to close to

01:17:21.040 63 percent that's about brown university then it ticked back into 77 but something happened there

01:17:30.000 something happened between 2020 and 2023 well lockdown everyone was like at home being 0.56

01:17:36.680 propagandized to be even more gay yeah you see why didn't it happen during lockdown it's weird 0.61

01:17:41.460 isn't it it's covid seemed to make you suppose cabin fever maybe that was in the back scene 0.92

01:17:45.840 you're locked in your dorm room with all your bros wrestling talking about philosophy

01:17:51.280 one thing leads to another we're all being very nichan together

01:17:54.640 why why would that be the the issue then

01:17:59.900 what do you mean sorry i just understood what you said that's good that's hilarious

01:18:05.320 okay here you have the queen you know let's be nichan just the aziz pose i'm i'm the superman

01:18:14.560 No, I'm the Superman.

01:18:16.240 No, I'm the Superman.

01:18:17.480 Yeah.

01:18:19.960 Is that also when it starts from, you know, exercising with your mates, 0.88

01:18:24.640 it goes to only bottoms are gay and it goes to full gayness, right? 0.97

01:18:29.720 Okay. 0.99

01:18:31.000 Okay.

01:18:31.640 So the same pattern you see everywhere, basically, it goes down 1.00

01:18:35.840 and 2023 was the peak gayness, right? 0.99

01:18:39.240 It says here about, well, I'll just tell you in a nutshell. 0.52

01:18:44.320 that's what all of these studies suggest that 2023 was the peak right here sexual orientation in

01:18:52.760 brown university freshman 2010 to 2025 from 90 percent in 2010 it fell below 60 you know the

01:19:04.440 worry is i don't know where it went up to but clearly it's lower we never we may never get

01:19:09.000 these straights back this is what worries me see we've lost them there and we oh we've recovered

01:19:13.600 but we've never fully recovered this is kind of like world war one yeah all of our best men have

01:19:18.940 been lost right we'll never fully get back and that's how woke works it makes these advances

01:19:22.780 then you get back to oh you would be in work but no you've still got you know quotas and dei and

01:19:27.920 all this so but here we have another um substack article here this is a generation tech do not

01:19:37.060 interfere with my mouse right here we have by uh jean twang younger teens are now much less likely

01:19:45.620 to say that they are lesbians gay or bisexual especially 18 to 24 and this is this interesting

01:19:52.740 graph here which confirms the hypothesis of the lesbian explosion not to the numbers that were

01:19:58.340 suggested in the beginning but here you see from 10 in 2019 it peaks to 18 in 2020 then it goes

01:20:10.100 it stays relatively um stable 17 in 2023 and then crashes back to almost 10 in 2025 so this is

01:20:22.580 ninth graders so each of these data points represents a new year of ninth graders as well

01:20:28.260 so yes new the cohort in uh 2023 was like yeah we're super gay and now they're going like

01:20:34.980 actually those people two years before me super cringe i'm super straight now yes so um as you

01:20:41.780 said before some people may rush to think that it's a result of the vibe shift however that's

01:20:48.420 not eric kaufmann's um conclusion i don't think we can to i'm not exactly certain whether we can

01:20:55.540 talk about it on youtube so i won't say definitely read the download the survey and have a look

01:21:01.780 yourself especially towards the conclusions i don't i'm not certain we can say that on youtube

01:21:07.140 so i'm gonna keep that aside so that's it i want to know what it was now they actually made it

01:21:14.340 okay you see i i cultivated some yeah yeah stick there yeah well shall we say is the segment done

01:21:21.940 shall we say we're off youtube yes yeah let's say we're off youtube tell him it's he says basically

01:21:27.300 that it's it may be improved mental health uh services it's it may be it may have something

01:21:36.820 to do with mental health health which were completely um exacerbated adverse conditions

01:21:44.160 were exacerbated during covid and then after covid things are going to be better yeah people

01:21:49.220 by going mad in their houses having an identity check it it's a very interesting so it might also

01:21:54.240 be that perhaps those people providing the mental health services aren't as eager to because there's

01:21:59.400 been legal repercussions for quite a few of them to say like oh you're trans you're having some 0.99

01:22:04.320 you're a bit depressed at the moment you're trans cut your dick off this pressure to affirm someone 0.99

01:22:10.320 in terms of gender and again let's not forget the whole hysteria and hype that the mainstream media 0.99

01:22:17.380 cultivated around this phenomenon all right let's go through some rumble rants and while i'm going

01:22:23.220 through them can you please start to get some video comments up if we have any samson 0.96

01:22:27.440 base tape girls just copy the environment that they are in if you ask them one moment samson

01:22:33.740 if you ask them what their favorite food is they will tell you their best friend's favorite food

01:22:38.780 they don't have thoughts of their own stop them voting i think that's a rather um rather

01:22:44.360 cynical view of yeah high in agreeableness they are hyper social and higher in agreeableness

01:22:51.080 i don't think it's quite that bad even for a cynic like myself i'm slightly less cynical towards 0.97

01:22:56.360 our precious precious women sigil stone 17 everything is fake and gay even the gays are 0.86

01:23:03.320 fake turned out to be the case i'll go through the rest of them and then we can go through the 0.90

01:23:06.760 video comments uh tall order booty gag uh it's it's amazing that like we had a gay guy whose

01:23:13.420 name was literally a booty gay um the former mayor of south bend they made him transport secretary

01:23:20.100 because he's an expert at running trains oh my the engaged few that although he loved the movie 0.77

01:23:25.660 isherwood didn't want liza minnelli in cabaret because she was too good a performer for the

01:23:29.440 character he wrote sigil stone so maybe they tried lockdowns to cause a baby boom men and women locked 0.74

01:23:34.920 up together with nothing better to do but instead it made men women hate each other and turn gay 0.68

01:23:39.560 that's always there's always a risk i think that's what would happen to you if we locked you in a 0.77

01:23:43.500 room with a woman for too long i think so and again from sigil stone and then everyone took 0.96

01:23:48.060 ivermectin cured their parasites and weren't gay anymore that also interesting thesis all right 0.59

01:23:54.880 let's go with the video comments now. The sophistication of North American indigenous 0.98

01:24:01.520 law and foreign policy is summed up in their first major treaty made with Dutch settlers.

01:24:06.760 It's a simple contract to codify two peoples in the same land living side by side but never

01:24:12.080 interfering with each other. It's symbolized by a knitted blanket featuring two parallel lines,

01:24:17.500 the two-row wampum. The trouble is that that's all it is. Due to them not having writing,

01:24:22.640 there are no descriptions or context no rules or limitations it's an idea only and worth about as

01:24:28.880 much legally interesting thank you hey guys i just want to give you guys some news that you missed

01:24:38.160 yesterday that was kind of a historic moment for canada and because one of the parties

01:24:45.120 it was like near 100 years old for the quebec and quebec got zero seated now that

01:24:51.860 never happens you know it was a party of like a hundred people and it got zero seated in a

01:24:58.640 campaign season of one how did that happen i can't stop biting

01:25:05.440 that's very interesting thank you i i just have to say dreadnought have you ever watched the old

01:25:15.980 plinket reviews of the star wars prequels there was a kind of little bit of a mr plinket about

01:25:22.000 that interaction with your cat but yeah the kind of the stuff sounds interesting i'll need to um

01:25:28.400 need to give it a look in thank you for letting us uh thank you for letting us know

01:25:32.600 can we get this off screen

01:25:41.740 Samson so we can see the

01:25:43.000 website comments alright I'll go through

01:25:45.260 a couple of mine we've only got a few minutes so

01:25:47.460 let's say three each

01:25:49.100 Jimbo G we went from learn

01:25:51.560 how to code to import 0.95

01:25:53.540 Indians to code overnight

01:25:55.660 that's a

01:25:57.800 random name regarding the tech industry

01:25:59.720 a lot of tech companies keep hiring contract

01:26:01.580 workers from the third world mainly india because they don't have to pay them benefits insurance

01:26:08.380 etc if you wonder why microsoft's latest games have been dog s there's your answer turns out

01:26:13.720 halo made in india doesn't quite sell as much well also a lot of these people would be vibe

01:26:18.960 coding as well and and frankly just a lot of the newer blood in the industry in general don't seem

01:26:25.640 to be of the same quality as the people who came before i'm very much subscribed to the theory that

01:26:31.480 gaming was a lot better when the team was like a dozen a dozen white guys and one or two tokens

01:26:39.380 who were there literally purely for merit uh making a game over a weekend fueled entirely 0.55

01:26:46.040 by pizza doritos and mountain dew those are the guys who made all of the best games in the 90s

01:26:51.920 and 2000s all right so in mind zesty king all the tories care about his power that's it it used to

01:26:57.320 be the case that competency aristocracy and intelligence was the horse they backed now they

01:27:01.540 think it's identity politics these lot will do anything to get their jobs back including advocate

01:27:05.640 for their own replacement we can say that now off i guess and um interesting one here but ty from

01:27:12.680 henry but tice why are we having power shortages is because our population has exploded and there's

01:27:17.160 been no major infrastructure improvements for 30 years maybe getting rid of demand will make the

01:27:21.160 supply a lot more manageable good point one more it comes from this is a good but from zibber the

01:27:27.340 about the sorry zibber it comes from zibber and it says i got called racist the other day for

01:27:34.360 calling her ula kemi asked them how to how and got no reply of course her full name is ula kemi

01:27:39.480 ulafonto adegaki definitely a traditional essex girl name yeah i don't use that because i always

01:27:43.920 think that's a cheap shot and doesn't help us personally but i know a lot of people do

01:27:46.820 like calling zach blansky's real name also how is how is like calling her by her actual name

01:27:52.600 a cheap shot it's not a cheap shot but people say oh you're only doing it because you're racist so

01:27:56.460 i just don't i say okay i can win on higher ground they recognize that they recognize it's because

01:28:01.440 by calling her by her full name it highlights just how foreign she is yeah it's totally fine i just

01:28:06.720 choose not to do it because i just think it gives them a personally i think it gives them an easy

01:28:10.120 when but uh anyway gone okay um that's a random name just as yoruba as cami during covid i worked

01:28:18.240 at a job where a lot of the staff were women between the ages of 18 and 25 they were all woke

01:28:24.480 af and when one of the younger ones told me it was super normal to be non-binary and how she 0.87

01:28:30.380 herself was queer i asked her if she would ever if she had ever done it with a woman she got mad

01:28:36.640 and walked away lmao that's that's the other bit is with the power play well a guy i used to know 0.73

01:28:44.780 uh told me that he was bisexual and i said i i just asked him straight up well have you ever 0.99

01:28:49.700 like sucked a dick or anything then he was like no ever done anything with a man no ever kissed 0.99

01:28:54.880 a man he was like no it's like how you buy then he's just like i just am okay all right i don't 0.99

01:29:00.580 know why you would want to make like claim to that as a guy but you're fair alex ogle for every unit

01:29:06.380 that america becomes less gay canada becomes that unit more gay and he says that soon they'll reach

01:29:13.200 greek levels of gayness i'm sure you've um you've reached uh you've exceeded them alex

01:29:20.240 i just wanted to address one thing because somebody was um was critical of a comment

01:29:25.840 of my during my segment aaron harry is completely wrong about spreading internet access i used to

01:29:29.980 be left of center i'd definitely still be uh with the out without the internet now i'm not saying

01:29:33.920 that everything to do with the internet is bad in all times and places however i will make the

01:29:38.760 definitive statement that as internet access has spread across the world from from not just being

01:29:44.500 america and europe uh it's got infinitely worse the more the internet spreads outside of like

01:29:50.100 westernized countries it gets worse and worse so that's what i'm worried about i think you need

01:29:54.900 some time off internet brother harry i take plenty of time off the internet that's good i i

01:29:59.080 touch grass bro

01:30:00.360 I do plenty of that actually

01:30:02.460 I don't

01:30:03.340 I know

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - October 09, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1524

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