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00:00:17.280 Many thought it impossible. After persisting through so much deceit and duplicity,

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00:00:57.200 For legal reasons, that was an AI voice. And all of the tech issues beforehand are probably

00:01:09.760 going to get clipped off. But hello, everyone. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seaters,

00:01:13.120 Friday the 21st of June 2024. I'm your host, Connor, joined by Josh and Harrison. Harrison being the

00:01:18.720 senior editor of the European Conservative, my co-host on New Culture Forum, and a regular face

00:01:22.880 around here now, which is always fun. And today we're going to be discussing how the grave has

00:01:26.880 been dug for the Conservative Party. Very timely, considering that little advert that we had. How

00:01:30.800 the US terror threat is rising because of its porous southern border, and how the worst is yet to come

00:01:35.440 regarding Keir Starmer's constitutional revolution planned for when Labour win the election. But before

00:01:40.880 we start on today's news, at three o'clock today, it is Friday, and we have Lads Hour, we're going to be

00:01:45.680 discussing how you would retake the empire. I believe that's with myself, Carl, Harry, Josh,

00:01:50.320 and Harrison for a short while before you have to dip out for other commitments. We've only got

00:01:54.560 him on loan, so enjoy him while he's here. But without further ado, let's jump straight into

00:01:59.200 today's stories. Right. So there's been a betting scandal within the Conservative Party that has

00:02:05.040 blighted them for the last few days. And I think it's worth looking at because

00:02:08.720 it really shows just how unrecoverable the Conservative Party's campaign is, to the extent

00:02:13.680 where now the very campaign manager, two weeks out from the election, has taken a leave of absence.

00:02:18.000 So they're all waving the white flag over at CCHQ, and I don't really blame them. They're

00:02:23.360 all going to be out of a job. So Politico have got the coverage, but I'll give you the breakdown.

00:02:26.240 Basically, Craig Williams, he's a candidate, and he was the parliamentary aide to Rishi Sunak

00:02:30.160 while he was still serving as Prime Minister. Obviously, everything's been put on hold at the

00:02:34.080 moment while the election's running. And he placed a £100 bet on the timing of the poll for the

00:02:39.520 general election just days before Sunak went public and actually called the vote. So it's

00:02:42.720 essentially insider trading. Risking your entire reputation and your parties for £100. You'd

00:02:48.080 at least put a little bit more on it than that, wouldn't you? Well, the odds might have been a

00:02:52.080 bit better. Don't know. Strange price for your integrity, but I suppose that's the Conservative

00:02:57.040 Party for you. And then the BBC decided to reveal, and this was Wednesday, so two days ago now,

00:03:01.760 a Tory candidate, Laundra Sanders, who recently worked in Conservative HQ, was also being looked at

00:03:07.440 by the watchdog. And I believe that she's going to be suspended as a candidate as well. She's the

00:03:12.080 wife of Lee, who turns out is the Conservative's director of campaigning. So he's the actual campaign

00:03:17.600 director who has now taken leave of absence, again, two weeks out from the campaign. So that's

00:03:22.160 two candidates, the director of campaigning. And it turns out as well that a Met police officer,

00:03:27.040 who's part of Sunak's security detail, also decided to put a bet in because he'd been hearing

00:03:32.480 things from within Downing Street. What's quite hilarious is that on the same day,

00:03:36.560 the Conservatives put out a meme saying, if you bet on Labour, you can never win.

00:03:40.640 That has since been deleted. I didn't know about that, but that's

00:03:45.520 wonderful. Everything has aligned to make this one of the worst Conservative campaigns I've ever

00:03:51.280 seen by a significant margin. And this is sort of the icing on the cake, this whole betting scandal,

00:03:56.400 because it does epitomise what the Conservative Party have sort of gained a reputation for,

00:04:02.000 very justifiably so, that they are corrupt and they're so incompetent at it that they always get

00:04:11.040 found out in the end.

00:04:11.920 Well, I would want to put a warning in here as well though, because I think one of the problems

00:04:16.400 with what happened with the John Major episodes in the 1990s is that when the Tories lost that election

00:04:23.920 in 1997, it was pinned on precisely these sorts of scandals, slightly akin to this sort of Tory sleaze,

00:04:29.600 all that sort of thing. And that allowed an attitude to gain a foothold in the Conservative

00:04:37.520 Party corridors of power, that the election wasn't lost for political reasons, it was lost because of

00:04:41.520 these more sort of human frailty reasons. And the more that we focus on pinning the Tories defeat on

00:04:46.400 these kinds of corruption scandals, important though they are, and illustrative of the fundamental

00:04:53.920 vacancy at the heart of the Conservative Party mentality. I mean, they don't really believe

00:04:56.880 in anything, they are just these people who, I think as Pete Hitchens likes to put it, sort of,

00:05:01.440 their sole function is seeking office for the sons of gentlemen, that sort of thing.

00:05:05.040 It's important as well that we emphasise the political reasons for their loss rather than the

00:05:08.960 corruption-based reasons for their loss.

00:05:10.880 Yeah, it's not just purely that they're sex pests and addicts and constantly falling over

00:05:16.560 themselves to make prats of themselves on Twitter, it's that they've betrayed their electorate,

00:05:20.240 their mandate, particularly since 2010, particularly on the issue of migration. And this is the fruits

00:05:26.000 of that, because they decided to coup out two Prime Ministers who were at least chosen by the voting

00:05:30.400 public or the membership, and then anyone associated with them which helps them win with successful

00:05:35.120 campaigns was then removed. And then the unpopular, unelected Prime Minister,

00:05:39.120 backed up by the Cameron establishment which then lost on the issue of Brexit, are the only people

00:05:44.960 allowed in to then run the campaign which is running the Conservative Party into the ground.

00:05:48.640 And then the few remaining Zoomers that are sort of excited that since that energy has drifted over

00:05:53.600 to Farage's camp, as we recently discussed on NCF, when they were in CCHQ, I've got friends who

00:05:58.480 have friends inside CCHQ and said, yeah, they were all on board with at least helping Rishi win,

00:06:02.800 and once he announced the National Service and Triple Lock Plus policies, they've given up.

00:06:07.280 They're quiet quitting. So that's why you're getting terrible memes like this, which are both

00:06:11.440 optically poisonous and badly timed. So just crashing and burning. The other interesting

00:06:16.240 thing is as well that the journalists that have been reporting on the betting scandal themselves

00:06:21.520 also use insider information to place bets. So the entire Westminster lobby bubble are themselves

00:06:26.880 incredibly corrupt.

00:06:27.120 So that's very interesting because of course it suggests that they've got inside information

00:06:32.640 directly from the Conservative Party, doesn't it? Which is unsurprising, but it's a very obvious

00:06:37.600 example of it.

00:06:38.240 It's very leaky. It's the exact same thing as all the journalists that were lambousting Boris

00:06:41.680 Johnson over Partygate, and again, totally deservedly, were also guilty. Was it Beth Rigby that violated

00:06:47.840 lockdown as well after she was complaining about Dominic Cummings?

00:06:49.840 Was that Kay Burley?

00:06:50.720 Kay Burley? I can't remember. One of those horrible lying hacks on Sky, which we've had

00:06:55.120 many run-ins with. They're all assinguishable at this point.

00:06:57.360 It's wonderful. It's sort of a mimetic magic that Rishi Sunak delivered a speech outside where

00:07:02.000 they built the Titanic for such a leaky campaign, isn't it?

00:07:04.800 Yes, quite, quite. There we go. So all of this sort of stuff has coalesced in what seems like

00:07:10.160 God himself trying to deliver the Conservative Party zero seat. So let's go through some of the polls.

00:07:14.800 There's a new Telegraph one that says that the Tories are set to just slump to 53 seats.

00:07:21.280 So about three weeks ago, it was 100. Now the Telegraph, often dubbed the Tory graph because

00:07:25.520 they're very sympathetic to the party, are saying 53. That's pretty brutal. And that's three quarters

00:07:30.800 of the sitting cabinet voted out, including Rishi Sunak as a sitting prime minister losing his own

00:07:35.760 seat, which I think is the first time it's ever happened. So he'll be standing next to Count Binface,

00:07:40.480 being told that he's going to have to go back to California post-haste.

00:07:43.920 This is the polling from Cervanta, and there was about 18,000 people between June the 7th and June

00:07:48.240 the 18th. Now, the worst defeat the Conservative Party have ever suffered, so this is the modern

00:07:52.880 Conservatives before they were the Tory party, was 131 seats in 1906. The worst of their predecessors,

00:07:58.400 which is the Tories, hence the interchangeable name, was in 1754 when they won 106. So that's

00:08:04.960 half of that. So that would actually pretty much annihilate the party down to its One Nation caucus members

00:08:10.320 who, I mean, they'll have less seats than the Lib Dems. They'll be a completely irrelevant

00:08:14.480 political force.

00:08:14.640 I was about to say, the Lib Dems have, you know, Ed Davey, he's been on rubber

00:08:19.280 rings and not really taking it very seriously.

00:08:21.680 Rubber dingy rapids politics, yes.

00:08:23.040 Yes, and even he's putting up a better campaign than the Tories, of course, you know,

00:08:27.520 they haven't been in charge, but still.

00:08:28.720 Yeah, he's going to get 50, at least. So, and that's still two weeks out. So a little bit of tactical

00:08:34.400 voting and the Lib Dems, as in many other polls, could get more than the Tories. Labour are meant

00:08:38.400 to get 516, according to this, and that's very high. I think that might be a bit of an overestimation.

00:08:43.840 Just to intensify the scale of those defeats, if they come true, whether it's 53 or 80 or 100,

00:08:50.160 in either case, lower than the 1906 and 1754 record lows. Both of those losses, 1754 and 1906,

00:09:00.160 took place at a time when on the other side, there were political titans. You know, in 1906,

00:09:05.360 you had the upcoming liberal generation, people like David Lloyd George and Asquith. And likewise,

00:09:10.960 in 1754, they were up against William Pitt the Elder, the Earl of Chatham, who was just,

00:09:14.800 who was one of the most celebrated heroes in the nation. These people are up against Keir Starmer.

00:09:20.160 Yeah, exactly. It shows the juxtaposition.

00:09:22.000 The embarrassing depths to which they have sunk, very, very Titanic-like. The only political force they

00:09:26.560 are facing down, which is slowly siphoning votes away is, of course, Nigel Farage. But even, look,

00:09:30.960 Nigel's a fantastic figure, but he's as yet to be a Pitt the Elder. Let's put it that way.

00:09:36.480 The reform, apparently, according to this, is going to get zero. So that's why I'm actually

00:09:39.520 very questionable about this poll, because I don't think reform are going to get zero.

00:09:42.880 So even the Farage seat in Clinton?

00:09:45.200 Exactly. I think there's something dodgy with the methodology going on here, frankly. But it is

00:09:49.600 interesting to see the Tories just keep getting chunked down. And the SMP are going to go down to eight

00:09:53.040 from 48. And I think that's a lot of the bulk of what they're predicting Labour to make gains on,

00:09:58.560 is specifically up in Scotland. Because the SMP, much like the Tories, have traded out three

00:10:02.160 different leaders in the last 18 months. And John Swinney is not particularly good. I mean,

00:10:06.480 see the dreadful question time thing last night. So what the Telegraph are reporting, and I think

00:10:10.160 this is why they're hoping reform are going to get zero, is the Telegraph are saying,

00:10:13.840 Kemi Badenoch is going to be the only one left. And so I think that might be the reason that this

00:10:18.640 reporting has been done the way it has, because there are certain factors in the Conservative Party,

00:10:23.680 particularly the One Nation caucus, who would love Kemi Badenoch to remain as leader. And Kemi's seat

00:10:28.160 is on a coin flip as to whether or not it's going to be taken by, I think her seat's under threat from

00:10:31.200 the Lib Dems. And apparently the cabinet members are going to be taken out. I mean, there's a diagram

00:10:37.200 in here that just shows that's just brutal. That's almost all of them. And the only two remaining

00:10:42.480 leadership candidates would be Tom Tugendhat, who's the sort of Five Eyes, Bilderberg group,

00:10:47.920 favourite candidate, and Kemi, who would be the establishment pick with our based black woman,

00:10:52.400 TM, except she, you know, she's obsessed with ESG and all that sort of stuff.

00:10:56.080 Also particularly insidious in light of the fact that there is, in the way that there isn't with

00:10:59.440 Tom Tugendhat, there is a kind of naive enthusiasm, particularly among boomers, people who read the

00:11:05.040 Telegraph and people who read Conservative Home, that sort of thing. Like good people, but not, you know,

00:11:09.040 completely clued in. No one really views Tugendhat as a potential right-wing warrior in the making,

00:11:14.640 whereas there is this perception of Kemi as a right-wing warrior in the making, and

00:11:17.760 firstly, I just think it's very unhealthy, this tendency that we have in order to fight

00:11:22.960 an increasingly racialized politics in this country, to hide behind minorities in doing so,

00:11:27.040 as if we don't have a right to object to CRT, regardless of whether we have a black woman in

00:11:32.880 toe, and an Indian in toe, and all that sort of thing. But also, another particularly insidious thing

00:11:37.120 I don't like about Kemi Badenoch is that very recently, often when she's on the back foot,

00:11:41.440 and being pushed by sort of white, woke, liberal Sky presenters, or BBC presenters about Britain

00:11:47.040 being systemically racist. She has the decency to deny that we're systemically racist, which I

00:11:51.840 suppose is something. But she'll often say, if we were systemically racist, I wouldn't be in my

00:11:56.480 position. As though the proof of us not being systemically racist is that a woman born in

00:12:00.000 Nigeria can rise to such heights in Britain. Now, obviously on one level that is proof,

00:12:04.000 but I don't think we need to supply that kind of proof in order to demonstrate our anti-racist

00:12:09.120 credentials. And so there's always a tendency on the part of Kemi to defeat our enemies,

00:12:14.160 so to speak, or opponents, so to speak, but always on terms highly favorable to their own

00:12:18.160 ideological hobby horses. And that's a very dangerous long-term strategy.

00:12:21.440 Yeah, we don't need to filter our legitimacy through her success quite. But the people that are

00:12:25.760 going to get wiped out include Rishi, Jeremy Hunt, James Not-So-Cleverly, Penny Mordaunt,

00:12:30.800 Suella Braverman in this. Now, that's also another one where I'm a bit like,

00:12:34.080 I don't know if this poll's exactly correct, because Suella's got a pretty comfortable lead.

00:12:38.720 It's down in the South, and there's a lot of energy being put in to keep Suella in place,

00:12:42.320 because that's... People that are sort of closer to our way of thinking's preferred

00:12:46.080 continuity candidate, because they at least think that she'll ally with slash fold herself into Farage.

00:12:50.300 So I think Suella remains. I would be surprised if she didn't get wiped out.

00:12:54.160 The footage of her dancing with Farage at the Tory party conference would probably help that,

00:12:58.980 wouldn't it?

00:12:59.180 Well, she's at NatCon with him in the couple of weeks when Karl and I are going. She's at

00:13:02.380 every NatCon with Farage. They're quite friendly. I mean, she did just say in the Times last week,

00:13:07.820 saying we need to embrace Farage. Whether or not the car's light blue or dark blue,

00:13:12.460 she doesn't really care at this point. The other people that are going to get wiped out,

00:13:14.840 though, is quite interesting, is Priti Patel, Liz Truss, again, why I don't really trust this poll,

00:13:19.200 because she's got quite a commanding lead, and Rhys Mogg. Rhys Mogg is pretty much going to get

00:13:22.680 annihilated by redistricting. So, interesting times. I mean, they only have themselves to blame.

00:13:27.880 You can check if your MP, particularly, is going to be wiped out by this with the link

00:13:30.860 down in the description, because Telegraph has a handy tool. There's some other polls

00:13:33.740 as well that are suggesting the same sort of thing. Now, YouGov has one. This is one that

00:13:37.720 you sent me the link to. So, Labour, it says, is going to be on 425 seats. So, that's up 233

00:13:44.220 from 2019. Conservatives down to 108, so that's down 257 from 2019. Lebdem's at 67, so they would

00:13:52.680 be the official, well, no, hang on a minute, they wouldn't be the official opposition, but

00:13:56.700 they're much higher than they were in the Telegraph one, rather. So, they're up by 56.

00:14:01.080 S&P at 20. Reform on 5. And what I find quite interesting is they've mapped the ones that

00:14:06.320 Reform are going to win out. As Clacton, so that's obviously Nigel. Ashfield, so that's Lee

00:14:09.540 Anderson. Basildon and Bickarelli. Now, the reason they're going to win that one in Essex

00:14:12.960 isn't just because of all the East End exiles, but that's because Richard Holden, the disastrous

00:14:16.960 Tory party chairman, tried to parachute himself into that seat as a safe seat, kicking the

00:14:21.880 original candidate out. And it seems like there might be an on-the-ground rebellion saying,

00:14:25.600 well, you think you can just take us for granted? No, no, no, no, no. No, thank you. No,

00:14:29.060 thank you. And then the other ones are Great Yarmouth and Luthon Horncastle. And I would

00:14:33.320 probably add Tice to that one, because it seems that Boston and Skageness are pretty

00:14:37.600 reliable. So it looks like Reform, let's say about seven seats at this point. There was

00:14:42.980 another one as well yesterday. So this is Redfield and Wilton Strategies, and it's putting Reform

00:14:46.420 at 19 and Conservatives at 18. So they're maintaining that sort of one point within the margin of

00:14:51.460 error, but lead over the Conservative party in terms of the popular votes. You're seeing

00:14:55.540 a repeated pattern in that the Conservatives have burned all their credibility, they've

00:14:59.040 torpedoed their base, and that Reform are rising up as the opposition with popular consent

00:15:04.720 among the right, which is encouraging. Now, the most encouraging poll, which must be taken

00:15:09.740 with a pinch of salt, and I think we all want to believe it, and it's by a friend of the

00:15:13.820 show, Matt Goodwin, and his people's polling company. He rather boldly suggests that Reform

00:15:20.920 are on 24 to the Conservatives' 15. Now, bear in mind, this is a poll of, I think, about

00:15:28.800 1,000-odd people. So the sample size is pretty small.

00:15:32.960 1,200, there it is, yeah.

00:15:34.160 There we go. So it's not spread as much across constituencies as something like electoral

00:15:38.560 calculus, or that is. I do want to believe it.

00:15:41.940 I think, from my knowledge of sample sizes, 1,200 or so is still enough to draw inference

00:15:49.080 from, right? It's not too small. I think when you get into the realm of too small, it's like

00:15:53.940 under 200, perhaps. But obviously, when it comes to polling, bigger is better for sample size. And

00:16:00.820 particularly with who he's sampling as well, who he's directed towards this poll, it should

00:16:07.600 be taken with a pinch of salt.

00:16:08.860 Yeah, I think the sample size is only noted because this is such an outlier in favour of

00:16:13.580 reform. So it might be over-biasing or oversampling, rather, reform voters. But it's not that this

00:16:19.460 couldn't be the case in a week or so, because so much has changed. And many of the other polls,

00:16:24.620 there was one that came out the other day that had taken polling from before the start of June.

00:16:29.620 So it was taking its results from before RLG even got into the race. So that's a completely

00:16:33.220 useless projection at that point.

00:16:34.720 An interesting quirk about the first-past-the-post system as well is that not only do polls under

00:16:41.440 such a system reflect or seek to reflect public opinion, they also create it in important

00:16:46.340 ways as well. They shape it in important ways. Because as soon as reform is perceived in the

00:16:52.760 public mind as a credible party of government, and that's likely to happen, the more we see

00:16:58.580 polls like this in which they're, say, 10 points ahead of the Conservatives, or even just ahead

00:17:01.580 of the Conservatives at all, then the Conservative strategy of saying a vote for reform is a vote

00:17:06.160 for Labour, it can be completely inverted and you can get a preference cascade in all sorts

00:17:11.140 of constituencies, which in a PR system wouldn't amount to much at all. But under a first-past-the-post

00:17:19.880 system, those sorts of perceptions about likelihood of victory at a national scale will all of

00:17:25.560 a sudden affect the arithmetic on the ground and the psychology of voters on the ground in

00:17:29.960 particular constituencies. And so there is that consideration as well.

00:17:33.080 It is also worth bearing in mind as well that reform may well poll above the Liberal Democrats,

00:17:38.300 but the Liberal Democrats have also got large concentrations of historic voters. I know that

00:17:43.480 in North Devon, for example, an area I'm very familiar with, they have a bit of a stronghold

00:17:49.360 there and that concentration will actually allow them to get more parliamentary seats than

00:17:54.420 their percentage might lead you to believe.

00:17:57.200 Yeah, it's all the NIMBYs that want to swim in the Thames or in places like Bath that want

00:18:00.980 to conserve the historic character of the place and are really happy with refugees and people

00:18:04.920 sleeping rough. Just not there. Just not particularly there.

00:18:07.420 Don't be silly.

00:18:07.880 But the interesting thing to back up your point about how proportional representation

00:18:10.500 interplays with the popular vote, just to illustrate for our American viewers, right,

00:18:15.060 so before, when reform were on about 18% in that Telegraph poll, they said zero seats,

00:18:20.460 right? When they're on about 19-20% in the YouGov poll, they're saying five.

00:18:24.500 Matt Goodwin here is saying for reform poll at 20%, he's saying that the Tories would get 45 seats

00:18:30.260 and reform would get 50. So we do have a very strange system. And I think this is the sort

00:18:36.760 of incentive for, at least beforehand, for us to mould himself into the Tory party because you have

00:18:41.700 that ground game. Now I think whatever existing apparatus the Tories have, if you get a result

00:18:46.600 like this, and it's not impossible to get on election night, and we will be calling it in

00:18:50.820 life, so you'll be able to see. To cannibalise that and make them bend towards reform seems to

00:18:56.300 be the modus operandi of Nigel Farage at the moment. And that's fun. I like that.

00:19:00.060 To sort of summarise it in a sort of nutshell, if you will, the more they start getting into the

00:19:04.460 20%, you know, polling nationally, the more they're going to get exponential gains in seats.

00:19:12.300 Yeah, spot on. Thank you very much. So the Tories have obviously entered panic mode,

00:19:15.600 seeing all of this crossing their desk every day. And now they're withdrawing support from other

00:19:20.800 seats and going back to what they previously thought were super safe seats. I mean, Rishi

00:19:25.040 Sunak has been campaigning in towns in Devonshire that have 20,000 majority at 2019, because he's

00:19:31.740 trying to cling on to it as much as possible. This is a Bloomberg piece with some inside

00:19:34.460 information. So he went to two districts in Devon, both with majorities over 14,000. And

00:19:40.180 this is because, apparently, this is a quote, Conservative campaign headquarters on Wednesday

00:19:44.020 told Tory candidates in several constituencies who are defending majorities of over 10,000 votes

00:19:48.840 their funds and favourable access to party activists was being withdrawn. So if you have

00:19:53.500 a 10,000 majority, you're not getting any assistance from CCHQ whatsoever. That's ridiculous.

00:20:00.080 According to people who spoke on the condition of anonymity, of course, Sunak will get additional

00:20:04.080 resources in his own constituency of Richmond and North Allerton. And they said this was after the

00:20:09.600 Cervantes poll that came out on the Telegraph saying he would be the first Prime Minister to lose

00:20:12.620 his seat. So he's trying to save face on his own career at this point. But personally, I think he

00:20:17.040 doesn't really care. He wants to go back to California anyway. Other activists in different

00:20:20.080 parts of Britain have been told to head to the constituencies of cabinet ministers seen as under

00:20:23.980 threats. They've been told to abandon their own home seats and their own home MPs to go and save

00:20:28.600 the careers of cabinet ministers who have steered the Tory party into oblivion. Now, the Telegraph put

00:20:32.960 out a piece shortly after that. And they've said that Tories trying to win seats which have

00:20:38.400 Conservative majorities of up to 7,000. So they're just clocking off the amount that they're going.

00:20:44.360 So it was 7 and also 10. Those are significant margins of victory in any other election. And

00:20:51.560 now they're saying, even in seats we've got 20k, rush down and put all your resources just so we

00:20:55.560 can hold on to at least 50, which is pretty terrifying. This came directly from an email

00:20:59.420 from Tory head of field operations. And it was sent last weekend with the subject,

00:21:03.500 campaign support, not in the north. Well, that's pretty blatant, isn't it? They just think that's

00:21:08.660 a total lost cause.

00:21:09.520 To put it into perspective, South West Devon, which is the constituency I actually grew up in,

00:21:14.960 would usually, the Conservatives would win by a majority of about 30,000 votes. They would have

00:21:21.340 over half of all votes would be in their favour. Now they're potentially struggling to even keep

00:21:26.840 the seat itself.

00:21:28.200 I think the same is going to happen in Old Bexley and SIGCUP as well. It's been a consistently

00:21:31.920 Conservative seat, I think, since it's created. It didn't even lose in 1997, as far as I'm aware.

00:21:36.760 And it was held by James Brokenshaw until he died of cancer, who was a Remainer, even though

00:21:42.200 I think the seat itself voted Brexit. And when he passed away, Louis French, he's a sort of just

00:21:48.220 perfectly nice but boring chap, came in and his vote share collapsed, not because people were

00:21:54.280 necessarily breaking for reform in high numbers, even though Tyson himself was standing at the

00:21:56.980 time. It's just because all the Tories stayed at home and they weren't bothered. And I wouldn't

00:21:59.440 be surprised this time if we get it on a knife's edge between Tory and Labour, just because

00:22:02.960 of the amount of people that go for reform. You're in Brighton, so it doesn't really matter

00:22:07.400 to you, does it?

00:22:07.720 It's totally irrelevant, yeah. My only influence is on NCF and load-seaters, which are probably more

00:22:13.040 marked than the kind that you get with just having one vote in a constituency. So that's my saving

00:22:17.320 grace.

00:22:17.640 Well, we've got lots of reform candidates watching, so I do wish all of you the best of luck. And if

00:22:21.240 you do happen to win, you're more than welcome to dial in on the election night live stream to

00:22:24.480 have a little bit of a gloat. So the email read,

00:22:27.640 As much as I would like to see you helping a target seat in the North, taking a pragmatic

00:22:31.220 approach, I am sure there is much one closer to home or work. If you feel the need to pop

00:22:35.820 up and shoot a couple of videos, great. But there is no pressure from me. Time is valuable

00:22:39.920 and hours in a car isn't gaining votes. Thanks.

00:22:43.140 So that's all the people that won in 2019 in the Red Wall, like Miriam Cates and Nick

00:22:48.800 Fletcher just chucked under the bus. And actually much better MPs than all of the Cabinet put together.

00:22:52.860 So it's pretty disappointing, but maybe should have defected beforehand, lads, it turns

00:22:56.980 out. So obviously the blame game started. The knives are already out, but now it's the

00:23:00.640 monkey fight on the deck in the Simpsons. Gove's the first one to pin blame on anyone

00:23:05.620 except himself. Michael Gove at a closed door event. It was a building site in West London,

00:23:11.000 actually. He said,

00:23:11.980 One of the challenges in particular that we face is the reputation for sound economic

00:23:15.080 management, which is essential to conservative success. It took a bit of a knock in the period

00:23:18.720 between Boris and Rishi. Oh, it just so happens that was the period when your protege decided

00:23:23.920 that you'd ruined everything, kicked you out of the Cabinet, decided to do something slightly

00:23:27.560 different, and then you helped coup her out, wasn't it, Michael? Do you think that 14 years

00:23:31.600 of unpopular governance might be blamed on you and your cronies rather than a woman that was in

00:23:36.460 for about 40 days who couldn't have really done much? No? Okay. Well, this is why you're absolutely

00:23:44.280 going to lose and your arrogance deserves it. But it's also stuff like this. And this is a couple of

00:23:50.060 stories that caught my eye. So last night, the review gents watched the election special on

00:23:56.020 Question Time. Certainly not. Nope. Okay. Brilliant. So everyone else who had more fun

00:24:00.120 things to do, like watch paint dry, wrap their testicles in barbed wire. I was asleep, yeah.

00:24:03.620 I don't blame you. Yeah. So half the audience. Well, this was a clip that was circulating from

00:24:07.680 it. So Rishi Sunak was asked, and I won't play the clip, I'll just summarize, was asked about his

00:24:11.540 national service policy. What happens if all those youngsters don't want to die for Ukraine and

00:24:15.660 Israel, actually, because you've taken away their ability to own a home and then made their

00:24:18.760 country look unrecognizable? And he said, well, we're exploring our options. So what we might

00:24:22.560 do is something what they're similar to they do in Europe. I think when he said Europe,

00:24:25.460 he misspoke and meant the Chinese. Because he said, if you don't sign up for national service,

00:24:29.000 we might take away your bank account and your driving license.

00:24:32.960 That seems like a nice positive incentive, doesn't it? Oh, wait.

00:24:35.800 Yeah. Yeah. Your bank account, which is absolutely essential to function in an economy,

00:24:41.020 especially one that he wants to transition towards cashlessness, because he was spearheading

00:24:44.200 the CBDC when he was head of the treasury as the chancellor. So just arbitrarily punishing

00:24:50.700 teenagers for not wanting to go to war.

00:24:53.040 Oren McIntyre, who you interviewed recently on Tomlinson Talks and who I understand is a

00:24:57.440 good friend of the show and has just written a wonderful book called The Total State, how

00:25:00.260 liberal democracies go tyrannical or become tyrannical or something like that, made an excellent

00:25:05.160 point in response to precisely this. What once a kind of homogenizing, rampaging liberalism

00:25:15.960 erases and corrodes natural bonds of loyalty, you need to create highly artificial technocratic

00:25:22.260 bonds of loyalty in order to hold the wretched tatters together that you are yourself responsible

00:25:28.360 for. And it's perfectly on display here, where rather than just letting the kind of natural

00:25:32.060 instinctive sense of friendship, sense of friendship as the basis for the polis, just being the

00:25:37.240 organic glue that makes things like national service plausible and intelligible to people

00:25:41.980 and indeed desirable to people. Once you've erased all of that, all you can do is threaten

00:25:47.600 the kind of punitive pseudo social credit system in order to keep it open. And that's

00:25:51.100 just not going to work long term.

00:25:52.980 Yeah. You've got to play teacher and make the squabbling kids play nice. Quick thing to

00:25:56.140 the production booth, your microphone is on and we can hear you, by the way. You might want

00:25:59.880 to turn that off, guys. Anyway, moving on to the next bit. There's another story here that was

00:26:05.980 quite interesting. And this hasn't got time on GB News yet, but I have spoken to Charlie Peters

00:26:10.820 about it. He found out that there's a bunch of Tory candidates who signed a Hindu manifesto

00:26:15.000 because that's the absolute priority, isn't it? So what this is, is promising to bring over more

00:26:21.260 elderly Hindus and religious workers to the UK. So more net dependence from India and more Hindus.

00:26:30.200 I wonder why under a Rishi Sunak, this has been a popular policy, but there you go. So the four

00:26:36.440 candidates in question are Bob Blackman, Teresa Villas, Laura Farris. It shouldn't surprise anyone

00:26:41.800 because in 2020, she went to a gathering to kneel for BLM. Apparently she used to work for the Clinton

00:26:46.300 campaign as well. So absolutely delightful woman who shouldn't be in the Conservative Party. And

00:26:50.640 Amit Jogia, they all supported the manifesto, which was launched earlier this month. It also

00:26:55.560 calls for those who commit microaggressions against Hindus to face specific prosecution as anti-Hindu

00:27:02.120 hate or Hinduphobia. So implementing a caste system in the UK, absolutely fantastic.

00:27:07.420 I mean, if you have a Labour Party which increasingly relies on a kind of clientele class of Muslim voters,

00:27:14.440 and if you've pissed off the native population such that they're now migrating to reform, you need to

00:27:20.320 find other clients. And the Hindus, you know, don't think, don't at scale think terribly highly of

00:27:25.440 those Muslims. And clearly this is just an entrenchment of sectarian politics, the kind of

00:27:31.240 sectarian politics that becomes inevitable once you embrace diversity in a population en masse. And we

00:27:34.760 see it all over the world. And it's readily acknowledged in other parts of the world, but we somehow

00:27:38.820 believe that because of our, you know, incredibly instinctively attractive liberal values will be

00:27:45.000 spared it here if we have a porous border. But of course, it's not the case.

00:27:48.060 Yeah, it's not magic soil that suddenly strips everyone of their cultural, civilizational and

00:27:51.840 historical priors. Hence why you get riots in Leicester over a cricket game, which is absolutely

00:27:56.920 fantastic. I do also want to point out that in 2014, Rishi Sunak, when he was working for Policy

00:28:01.080 Exchange, developed a paper, something like The Changing Face of Britain. And he happened to note,

00:28:05.500 and he gave an interview to Algeria at the time, that Indians voted more for the Conservative Party.

00:28:10.080 And he said, politicians might want to take note of these demographic realities when shaping

00:28:13.380 migration policy. So basically, import loads more Indians, and hopefully you import more

00:28:17.020 Conservative voters than you're importing Muslims who will vote for Labour. And I find it very

00:28:20.780 interesting that now Commonwealth students and members of the Commonwealth, 250,000 Indians who

00:28:26.520 arrived here in the last year, will be able to vote in this election, even though they're not

00:28:31.000 British citizens. How fascinating is that? I wonder if there's some kind of plan there.

00:28:35.100 Anyway, so all of these problems are of the Tory's own making, and yet still, you get Steve Baker.

00:28:40.860 Now, I won't play this clip, because we're running up against time. But Steve himself says that he does

00:28:46.980 not want Nigel Farage in the party, in the Conservative Party, or anything to do with the

00:28:50.480 Reform Party, because Nigel Farage has toxified the debate by talking about broad members of the

00:28:55.340 community with his remarks about Islam. And he also admitted that in 2019, he helped broker the deal

00:29:01.840 that convinced Nigel to stand down in Conservative seats with the Brexit Party to allow Boris to sweep

00:29:06.740 to victory. So Steve Baker is an architect of the containment the Conservative Party have tried to

00:29:11.700 conduct on Brexit, on migration, on multiculturalism, on Islam, much to his own detriment. Because I

00:29:17.540 actually used to know a man that worked in Steve Baker's constituency office, and I can tell you,

00:29:21.020 he used to have a map on the wall of his constituency. He used to point to different areas and say,

00:29:24.360 well, that's a lost wall, because there's too many Muslims there. Yes. So Steve Baker has been

00:29:28.980 the engineer of his own defeat. He's going to lose, according to electoral calculus, by 22%,

00:29:33.460 or by the Telegraph polling we mentioned, by about 19%. And it's mainly in those Muslim wards, which are

00:29:38.040 highly diverse, non-whites, because they're not a big fan of him. As you would know, if you follow

00:29:42.640 Steve Baker's Twitter feed, a little while ago, he got accosted by a man who's a pro-Palestine

00:29:47.220 activist, and he decided to press his personal safety alarm. Of course, not a benefit afforded to the

00:29:52.860 girls in Rochdale and Rotherham. Thank you very much, Steve. And I think you deserve absolute

00:29:56.700 electoral oblivion for your betrayal. Also, a bit inconvenient for Baker on the whole

00:30:01.520 anti-Muslim narrative. And I hate to do this, because as we just said about Kemi, we don't

00:30:05.800 want to shield it. But there is a bloke who's just donated hundreds of thousands of pounds to

00:30:11.440 reform, and he is a practicing Muslim. So clearly, for a very slim minority of some that don't want to

00:30:18.120 engage in sectarian politics, it's not exactly an issue. This is Zaya Yusuf, who founded

00:30:22.620 Velocity Black, which is a concierge app. He's a multi-millionaire. And he told The Telegraph,

00:30:27.600 his parents came here legally. When he talks to his friends, they're affronted as anyone by

00:30:31.440 illegal channel crossings, which are an affront to all hard-working British people, but not least

00:30:35.160 the migrants who played the rules and came legally. Having spent time with Farage, it's clear that he

00:30:39.260 wants the best for Britain and its people, no matter their religion or skin colour. Now, I think I'm more

00:30:43.520 than happy that he's pledging his money to reform, as long as he doesn't try and soften their opinions

00:30:48.680 on legal migration, because note, he only talked about illegal there. But it seems that reform are

00:30:52.760 attracting far more interest from general people in various constituencies, disaffected Tory voters,

00:30:59.300 non-voters, even donors at this point, who are either hemorrhaging for the Labour Party or now

00:31:03.840 reform, than the Conservative Party is. So they've dug their own grave. I think we should help them fill it.

00:31:08.420 With that?

00:31:11.600 Yes, on the topic of graves, ISIS seemed to be crossing the US border. And yes, it's obviously

00:31:19.260 very concerning. And in fact, it may well be creating a situation in the United States

00:31:23.700 that is parallel to that leading up to the 9-11 attacks. And this is not my words, this is,

00:31:31.980 these are the words of many experts in anti-terror. And in fact, we'll be getting to that.

00:31:37.380 So to sort of trace the threads of this story, you need to go back to this at the start of June,

00:31:44.720 that Joe Biden signed an order which limited the number of migrants that can come into the country

00:31:52.820 by 2,500 a day, which I ran the maths. That's almost a million migrants in a year. So that's still

00:32:01.420 quite a lot. So it's not really limiting anything really. And even so, you have your usual guardian

00:32:11.340 types complaining about this being aggressive for some reason. It's like, oh, you're only letting in

00:32:18.040 a million illegal people a year. That's so aggressive. He's saying that it's going to put

00:32:22.720 the lives of the migrants in danger. I would like to point out that actually the migrants are well

00:32:28.960 aware of the dangers of what they're doing and they choose to do it anyway. And so I feel like

00:32:33.360 if you close your border, you're free of any moral responsibility to help them because they have

00:32:38.280 willingly made this crossing. They know what they're signing up for. They know it's dangerous

00:32:41.820 because they get the equipment to do it. Well, sadly, these are the kinds of people

00:32:45.780 that employ members of the cartels to transport their female members of family, their children

00:32:52.980 over. And I think it's about a third of all women and girls that make the journey get raped.

00:32:57.620 So if they're signing up for that, unfortunately, they're more than willing to put their own family

00:33:01.780 members and daughters in harm's way for a few quid on the other side of the border.

00:33:07.420 Absolutely.

00:33:07.700 That's absolutely despicable.

00:33:09.000 Precisely because Americans ever since the Monroe Doctrine have been the most, have been the

00:33:14.200 hegemon, well, obviously in the world now, but since then, certainly the hegemon in the

00:33:19.040 Western Hemisphere. Whenever the U.S. does police its border effectively, there's a very rapid,

00:33:25.120 quick domino effect across the whole of Central and South America where the Mexicans all of a

00:33:29.400 sudden realize that they're going to be on the hook for all of these people. So they massively

00:33:32.360 shut their southern border as well. There's a bit of a domino effect. And then you're going to

00:33:35.560 have fewer people making that incredibly precarious crossing across the Darien Gap in the first

00:33:41.280 place. And so that actually is the more humane option. You can consider it purely in terms

00:33:45.620 of the benefits to the migrant rather than the benefits to the host population in the

00:33:49.180 United States.

00:33:50.280 Absolutely. So about this problem, in fact, it's worth pointing out earlier in the month,

00:33:58.120 there were eight arrests. So these arrests were made in Los Angeles, New York, and Philadelphia.

00:34:04.420 And these were Tajik nationals. And just in case you're not familiar with Tajikistan,

00:34:12.760 as many people might not be.

00:34:14.760 That border's Guatemala, doesn't it?

00:34:16.180 Not quite. So here we are. Here's Google Maps. And you may recognize a country that many

00:34:24.180 Americans have been to and died in.

00:34:26.800 And Callum.

00:34:27.640 Yeah.

00:34:28.260 Well, he's still alive.

00:34:29.120 Yeah. Afghanistan. And as we know, this whole area around here is a hotbed for Islamic extremism.

00:34:38.040 And these people are likely members of ISIS Khorasan, I think it's pronounced. I'm not entirely

00:34:45.800 sure.

00:34:46.320 Are the successor organization that claimed credit for the attack on the military servicemen

00:34:50.860 in the US, if I'm correct?

00:34:52.580 I think so. Yes.

00:34:53.580 They also, this might be, we might not know the answers, but they're not also behind the

00:34:57.180 moment, the recent one, in Russia.

00:34:58.860 It was attributed to them, yes. I believe that it's incredibly likely as well. And yes,

00:35:06.300 so this Khorasan area, by the way, here we are. It encompasses Afghanistan, Iran, Turkmenistan,

00:35:13.640 Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan as well. So people from these countries, it might be a good idea

00:35:22.060 not to let them in your country. You may remember the fuss people made about Trump's Muslim ban. But

00:35:30.000 yes, members of ISIS coming into your country is not good. I'm really going to go out on a limb

00:35:35.300 here and say that. Yes, obviously you don't want this. And I think also the fact that New York City

00:35:44.600 has now been placed on terror alert after this has happened, because of course it's going to be one

00:35:49.020 of the targets, a sort of emblem of American success and wealth. And that's why it was targeted

00:35:56.540 in 2001. And this is obviously something of concern, because if you live in a major American city,

00:36:02.900 then you are in risk of terror attack. I mean, they arrested them in Los Angeles, New York,

00:36:09.320 and Philadelphia. Those are definitely places that should be concerned, because they were people

00:36:14.920 on a terror watch list that had moved there. And why would they have spread out to these major

00:36:22.260 cities? One only has to wonder. There are also sizable Muslim enclaves that have been exposed as

00:36:28.720 hotbeds of sectarian radicalism by mutual friend Stephen Edgington for GB News in Michigan and Minnesota.

00:36:36.440 So the problem is only getting worse in American cities, and they're starting to resemble various

00:36:42.020 cities in the UK now. Yes.

00:36:44.120 So the problem is being made even more appalling by this. And I couldn't believe this when I read it.

00:36:53.700 Man on Terror watch list was released by Border Patrol. And one would imagine that if you're

00:36:59.320 working for Border Patrol, if you had one job, it would probably be to stop terrorists.

00:37:04.860 The even more insidious subtitle is, with border security funding blocked in Congress. No,

00:37:09.660 the bill did not secure the border whatsoever. It actually set up a sort of amnesty program.

00:37:14.760 It was the equivalent of the, oh, puppies and kittens bill, and then we decide to drone strike

00:37:19.700 Iran over and over. So this man on the terror watch list was an Afghan migrant. So again, could be

00:37:26.300 in ISIS, because it encompasses that area in which they operate in. And he was in the US for a year

00:37:34.320 before he was apprehended by Border Patrol agents. So a lot can be done in a year if you're a terrorist.

00:37:40.620 So this is obviously not good enough from the border, right? I think that's safe to say.

00:37:48.640 Thankfully, I imagine, because he was just released, I don't think they could find anything to suggest he

00:37:55.520 was actually planning an attack. But one can't assume these days. And this actually happened.

00:38:02.260 I actually dug down and figured out what exactly went wrong here. So this is a quote from the article

00:38:07.640 itself. Customs and Border Protection released him as it would any other migrant without alerting

00:38:12.580 immigration and customs enforcement about possible terrorism ties. So it's just a lack of

00:38:18.140 communication. It's garden variety incompetence, it seems. And yes, it's risking American lives,

00:38:25.680 which is unacceptable, really, because of course, this whole problem exists because people are putting

00:38:31.960 the lives of economic migrants above the lives of US citizens. There wouldn't be anyone coming into

00:38:38.280 the country if the reverse was true. And the problem is getting even worse, in fact. And as the New York

00:38:45.900 Post reports, more than 1,500 migrants from Tajikistan are known to have crossed the border between

00:38:53.180 October 2020 and May 2024.

00:38:55.940 Who's funding all their flights?

00:38:58.340 It's curious, isn't it? I imagine they may be getting some money from some NGO, certain

00:39:05.900 organizations, something open, something. I don't know. I can't make allegations. But so far,

00:39:15.400 apparently only 500 have been caught so far this year. And in the over the past 14 years prior,

00:39:23.720 there were only 26 Tajik nationals crossing the border. So something's going on here, isn't there?

00:39:30.280 Obviously, this seems like a very deliberate thing, because to go from 26 to 1500.

00:39:37.320 500. That's a massive, massive uptick, isn't it? And it seems like there's a concerted effort here to carry

00:39:45.940 out a terror attack. I think that if things continue this way, it's somewhat inevitable, really, because the

00:39:52.140 border is so porous that anyone could break in, let alone, you know, the cartels that already exist, but people

00:39:57.760 flying over to Mexico from, you know, dangerous countries to carry out retributive, in their mind, attacks on the United States.

00:40:06.920 Well, so not to scare all of you lads here, but I have a source who has spoken to someone pretty in the

00:40:15.540 know in the Met Police. And they said that one of the things they're most on watch for, that they can't

00:40:20.700 really control for, is if one day, 100 people in various cities just start stabbing each other at the

00:40:28.140 same time, because they've all texted that they're going to agree to do it. And the only thing binding

00:40:31.260 those people together is a shared interest in Islamic radicalism. And so there's nothing also

00:40:37.320 stopping the same thing happening in the United States, just to a greater degree. Because the

00:40:41.420 only thing that would mean that it's more likely to be stabbings over here is the fact that we,

00:40:45.420 you can get a gun very easily in London illegally, but apparently the ammo is the hardest thing to

00:40:49.680 get a hold of, because it's very difficult to import into the UK. But if they just buy illegal firearms

00:40:54.820 in the US and they were to coordinate, I mean, it would create mass chaos.

00:40:58.220 Well, what's most concerning of all is that there could be an attack on US soil that will

00:41:05.700 dwarf 9-11.

00:41:08.900 In terms of casualty size.

00:41:10.860 Exactly, yes. Because, of course, just the sheer scale of people coming in, it's not hijacking

00:41:16.360 an airline anymore. It's thousands of people on the ground. It's tantamount to a military force,

00:41:24.400 one could argue, that's infiltrating the country. It is a national security.

00:41:27.800 I think we need to mainstream the term unarmed demographic conquest. I think that's a wonderful

00:41:33.280 way of hammering home the way in which, because, you know, people have been conquered many times

00:41:41.100 over, but very few people have welcomed their own conquest. And if instead of trying to, in a very

00:41:48.100 overt fashion, instead of trying in a very overt fashion to, you know, exterminate the fighting

00:41:53.500 male population of the people you're conquering and to, you know, being outside the city gates

00:41:57.480 with pitchforks and all that sort of thing, you instead psychologically demoralize the population

00:42:02.920 that you're conquering, you will be, they will welcome their own conquest as progress.

00:42:06.640 And that's what we see. And it's likely to bite many people, particularly in those very

00:42:12.620 liberal cities on the behind. Absolutely. So it's not just me saying this sort of thing. And in fact,

00:42:19.780 here is Axios reporting the serious threat of terror attack and former CIA chief. So I'm going to go

00:42:26.740 through some of the prominent people that have actually said the same thing as me. So Michael

00:42:31.900 Morrell, former deputy director of the CIA, has. Graham Allison, the assistant secretary of defense

00:42:38.480 for policy and plan basically says this echoes the run up to 9-11. That's specifically what

00:42:45.680 they're saying. And also the current FBI director, Chris Wray and army general, Eric Carilla have

00:42:51.960 also warned of a similar thing. It would have been amazing then if you hadn't have sabotaged the

00:42:55.860 administration of Donald Trump, who had kept the border closed and wanted to deport all of them.

00:42:59.140 That would have been fantastic. It's worth mentioning as well that the weight of Graham Allison's

00:43:02.920 voice, Graham Allison's voice should carry a particular weight because he's not one of the,

00:43:06.640 he's a very serious person. He's written a wonderful book called The Thucydides Trap,

00:43:10.520 which explores, I think, 14 or 15 case studies of war in the past and where a rising power has,

00:43:18.860 is in the process of potentially supplanting an existent power. And it's all about will China

00:43:24.040 and the US go to war. He was a pupil of Henry Kissinger's. And unlike many of the people who come

00:43:28.860 out of the Georgetown system of international relations in the US, where it's all focused on

00:43:33.880 people like Samantha Power, people like Madden and Albright, where it's all about human rights,

00:43:37.500 human rights, human rights, human rights. And it's kind of all very abstract and it kind

00:43:41.240 of post-1945 onwards, Graham Allison, like Henry Kissinger, has a deep sense of history.

00:43:45.940 So that is a very concerning and sobering signature attached to that warning.

00:43:51.820 Also, we have other experts as well. And we have Fox News, I believe, report. Oh, no. Sorry.

00:43:59.980 Next one. Next one. There we go. Here's Fox News. Here's another expert here. And this is Paul

00:44:07.780 Marrow. I don't know how to pronounce his name, but he is a retired NYPD inspector who worked on

00:44:13.960 counterterrorism for nearly 15 years. And he says, we are in a period where a number of factors are

00:44:17.900 combining to make a terrorist attack on the homeland far more likely than it perhaps had

00:44:22.440 been. And he blames the US border. So everyone is saying exactly the same thing. And that seems to

00:44:30.000 suggest that, well, they think it's a lot more likely. And some Republicans in Congress have been

00:44:37.940 demanding an investigation because, of course, these eight Tajik nationals crossing the border

00:44:43.440 is obviously very concerning because I don't think anyone wants another 9-11 in America,

00:44:49.080 at least most American citizens. But certainly some of the people crossing the border, I imagine,

00:44:54.060 are probably going to play a part in it. But there are lots of things to bear in mind when

00:45:00.740 looking at other countries' approaches to border policy, because one of the arguments is the

00:45:05.040 humane argument, which I actually hear quite a lot, even from people that are pretty checked out

00:45:09.620 from politics, that, well, you know, these people are fleeing war. Well, actually, the Western world

00:45:15.600 is the exception to the rule. And if we look at other countries, for example, like Saudi Arabia,

00:45:21.900 they just shoot people at the border. If you look at, say, Greece, the Coast Guards push them

00:45:29.500 overboard and pop their dinghies. And, you know, people know in other countries that these people

00:45:37.600 aren't there to, you know, build their economy and be honest. They're breaking into their country

00:45:42.340 and they mean them harm. And they're treating them as such. And I'm not necessarily suggesting

00:45:46.740 that we should, you know, follow in those footsteps, but we certainly don't need to allow

00:45:50.340 them into the country.

00:45:51.820 I don't think we have any duty of restraint when shown towards people who are actively

00:45:57.480 committing crimes and want to break in. Actually, I think you should treat them as an insurgent

00:46:00.580 force. And you're right in the other countries, including Jordan and Egypt, recognize, for

00:46:05.400 example, the threat posed by the Palestinians, which no matter what you think about the Israeli

00:46:09.920 Gaza war, that population have a grievance against particularly Britain and the wider West

00:46:17.840 residing with Israel. And it'd be very unwise for us to let them in. And if they're neighboring

00:46:21.380 countries who have a shared religion and...

00:46:24.340 Shared ethnicity.

00:46:24.680 Shared ethnicity. And also a less of an attachment to human rights, therefore a more willingness

00:46:29.820 to exert controls as the Saudis do, are unwilling to let them in because they think they're too

00:46:33.520 much of a chaotic force. Then the idea that we might import, I don't know, 200,000 on a

00:46:37.540 humanitarian visa scheme under the next Labour government, really bad idea. Not very good.

00:46:43.340 So it's also worth bearing in mind, on the Polish border, one of the border guards was stabbed

00:46:50.000 to death by a migrant. So yes, you know, he wanted just a peaceful life, didn't he? That's

00:46:56.040 why he stabbed that border guard to death. No, these people are dangerous, obviously. That's

00:47:01.860 why they're breaking into the country and not taking legal means, because they're willing

00:47:05.080 to break the law. And if they're willing to break the law, who knows what they're willing

00:47:07.880 to do. And it's people buying into this narrative that, you know, we're somehow obligated to have

00:47:15.540 this humanitarian approach. I've probably read things like this, where they take a select

00:47:19.860 case. I call it sort of human interest stories. The BBC are really egregious for this, and

00:47:25.680 I hate it, because what it's doing is it manipulates the human inability to calculate probability

00:47:32.480 and scale, and it just plays on your emotions. So it finds one example of someone who, you know,

00:47:39.980 is actually coming here with their family, with their children, but it's not representative of the

00:47:44.480 greater whole. And I'm just going to read a little bit from this, and you can sort of pick up on the

00:47:51.080 propagandistic way in which it approaches it. So it says, Ahmed al-Hasimi stood on the beach,

00:47:57.700 howling at the retreating waves, beating and clawing at his own chest, and surrendering to

00:48:02.400 the grief and rage and guilt that would not go away when his, I believe it was his eight-year-old

00:48:08.060 daughter died in the Channel Crossing. He should feel guilty. Well, I thought guilt is exactly the

00:48:14.900 word that I picked out there. Why would he feel guilty? Oh, wait, it's because he made the choice

00:48:19.760 to make that crossing. He wasn't fleeing war, actually, because the article goes on to say,

00:48:24.520 and this is actually very revealing, although Ahmed is an Iraqi, his daughter had never visited the

00:48:29.120 country. She was born in Belgium and has spent most of her short life in Sweden.

00:48:33.780 As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been war in Belgium or Sweden for quite some time.

00:48:38.640 A lot of grenade attacks in Sweden. That's true. But it's people like him, obviously not him

00:48:45.440 personally, that are doing that, isn't it? That's why. And so he made that decision. He played a role

00:48:53.740 in his dead daughter, and they're trying to make you feel guilty for us not letting them across

00:49:00.560 safely, when actually it's not our responsibility in the first place. And if, you know, you had been

00:49:06.620 in a dinghy in the English Channel as a British citizen and a parent, and, you know, you had

00:49:12.260 had a lapse of judgment whereby your child had died, you would be held legally responsible for that

00:49:17.800 by British law. So we're holding a double standard towards these outsiders, which is suicidal,

00:49:24.020 ultimately. And it's not even terror attacks that you just need to worry for, because, of course,

00:49:29.880 there has been the recent story about an illegal immigrant murdering Rachel Morin. And Trump released

00:49:36.920 a statement about this, but I'm short on time, so I'll have to skip over that. But basically,

00:49:41.140 this 23-year-old El Salvadoran murdered a woman going out for a run, I believe. And yeah, he raped

00:49:50.060 and murdered her and left her naked body on the ground. So the safety of women in America is being

00:49:56.160 jeopardized by this poorest border. And it's not just terror. And, you know, mother of a woman killed

00:50:02.660 similarly pointed out rightly that it's Biden's border policy that killed her daughter just as much as

00:50:08.780 the man himself, because that was what allowed him to get into the country and do what he did.

00:50:14.260 And so...

00:50:14.700 It's like the Lake and Riley case as well. You've got so many of these examples now.

00:50:18.740 It's funny when they're not interested in those human interest stories.

00:50:21.340 Yeah, quite.

00:50:22.680 It's funny, isn't it? Yeah. But my point is that this is something that should be on everyone's lips

00:50:29.320 in the upcoming US election. This is a matter of life and death. You know, people often talk about

00:50:34.760 US elections and say, you know, it's the most important one in, you know, your lifetime. Well, if the

00:50:40.680 choice is between do you have terrorists, murderers and rapists in your country or not, I think I know

00:50:46.340 what most people would pick.

00:50:49.020 Quite, yes.

00:50:50.060 Let me relieve you of that mouse.

00:50:51.360 I will swap you the mouse and I assume you want me to control the...

00:50:55.180 Yes, my lack of technical proficiency makes that necessary. Well, there's been a lot of talk in...

00:51:00.980 Sorry, just move it across the other... No, no, wait.

00:51:03.460 There we go.

00:51:04.700 There we go.

00:51:05.760 There's been a lot of talk recently, and I think Dr. David Starkey, you can see on the

00:51:11.720 screen at the moment, has been leading this charge. The fundamental thing that needs to

00:51:15.220 happen in British politics is that there needs to be a wholesale reversal of Blair's revolution,

00:51:22.020 Blair's silent, grinning revolution that took place in 1997. Much less overt and much more

00:51:28.720 innocuous-seeming than Cromwell's much more overtly violent, very po-faced revolution in

00:51:34.820 the 17th century. And Starkey's been leading the charge on this front. The problem is that

00:51:38.760 Blair's assault on the traditional constitution of the United Kingdom, which was based, as we

00:51:44.320 know, on parliamentary sovereignty and a tradition of representative government, or at any rate,

00:51:49.220 maximally representative government, new social classes being admitted to that over time.

00:51:53.700 You couldn't go mass democracy straight away, but in the 19th century, mass democracy kicks

00:51:58.280 in. 20th century, mass democracy kicks in as well, broadening the franchise through which

00:52:02.520 people can be represented. This wholesale revolution by Blair, rather than being challenged by the

00:52:08.120 Conservative Party in the way that Thatcher, from 79 onwards, challenged the post-war consensus

00:52:13.240 in a very self-conscious, intellectually, in a very self-conscious fashion with a huge amount

00:52:18.720 of intellectual ballast. People like Keith Joseph at the Centre of Policy Studies was instrumental

00:52:22.340 to that. That sort of counter-revolution, which Thatcher considered herself as engaging in.

00:52:27.480 The Conservatives have just completely accepted this new status quo, and since 2010, they're hopefully

00:52:33.340 going to be punished for it. But the problem for us is that the worst gents seems to be yet to come,

00:52:38.740 because what remains of our traditional constitution, because Blair didn't kill it off altogether,

00:52:42.880 may yet now be killed off altogether by an incoming Starmer government.

00:52:47.380 So the key features of Blair's revolution, if you want to sum it up in three bullet points,

00:52:52.240 would be the de facto abolition of parliament by dispersing its powers among the faceless,

00:52:57.320 like-minded mandarins who fill what Michael Gove christened the blob about 10 or so years ago.

00:53:03.320 Before becoming an inextricable member of it.

00:53:05.060 Indeed so, O'Connor, yes. And so you were thinking of things like Ofcom, things like English

00:53:09.740 Nature, which hamstrings sort of environmental policy, the Migration Advisory Committee, which

00:53:14.620 is responsible for the incredibly lax. Obviously, Boris Johnson is responsible, you know, advisors

00:53:21.080 advise and ministers decide. But Johnson, you know, the Migration Advisory Committee put forward

00:53:26.480 that very low salary threshold, which means that we're now seeing record high levels of legal

00:53:32.740 immigration. Charity Committee as well, which allows the Home Office to funnel hundreds of

00:53:36.520 thousands of pounds to hope, not hate, to smear people that notice problems.

00:53:39.960 Indeed, exactly. So you got it. Yes, go on.

00:53:41.960 I was going to make the point that it really reinforces what you're trying to say here by

00:53:47.300 the fact that as, you know, technology and the ability to govern more efficiently moves ahead,

00:53:54.020 you know, you've got, you know, computers and things. One would expect that you would need

00:53:58.560 fewer and fewer people, fewer and fewer government bodies, because the role of government can be

00:54:04.980 fulfilled with fewer and fewer people, because we need fewer people to, you know, pass papers

00:54:11.380 around and that sort of thing. And it's a very sort of perfunctory point that I think often

00:54:16.520 gets overlooked, because the state has been expanding in its sort of purview consistently.

00:54:22.320 And there are more and more bodies advising other bodies, and it's become a sort of Cronenberg-esque

00:54:28.140 monster of a bureaucracy. And the reality of the situation, the reality of what tools we have

00:54:35.380 available to the state to actually govern would suggest that it would be getting smaller, not bigger.

00:54:41.180 Yes, indeed. It's hilarious that their whole, what they, what they regard their right to rule as being

00:54:46.060 legitimacy. Oh, so it'd be being efficiency. And yet the civil service for just to take one point of

00:54:51.200 contact, the civil service is five times larger than the Indian civil service was in sort of 1910,

00:54:56.620 or something like that. And the Indian civil service did a much better job of it, I would

00:54:59.380 argue, as well. So there's that aspect, this kind of de facto abolition of parliament. You've got the

00:55:03.820 creation of a Supreme Court, able to contradict the will of the people as expressed through their

00:55:07.480 representatives, creating sort of rival sources of sovereignty in the realm of very, it makes sense

00:55:13.940 to do that sort of thing when you're deliberately trying to create a new system, as the Americans were

00:55:17.760 doing in 1787, that they needed a constitution, that this was a new nation.

00:55:21.200 Separation of powers made sense in that context. When you're a long established realm with a tradition

00:55:27.040 of political stability, why would you want to tinker with that and potentially cause constitutional

00:55:32.840 crises, which we've seen plenty of, not least during Brexit, paralysis, all that sort of thing.

00:55:37.620 And of course, the most lamentable, well, probably not the most lamentable of all, but one of the

00:55:40.820 most predictable in advance, it was predictable in advance that this would go wrong, just stuffing

00:55:46.640 the House of Lords with political cronies. I believe, who was the chap who wrote the, he wrote

00:55:51.900 a wonderful, wonderful biography of Disraeli. Yeah, Lord Blake, he was himself a lord, and he wrote an

00:55:57.240 article in I think the Times or the Telegraph warning that the abolition of the hereditary peers

00:56:02.140 was going to backfire massively. Because unlike these political cronies, the hereditary peers,

00:56:07.400 okay, it's a little bit antiquated. I will concede that. But they actually tended to be younger,

00:56:14.780 and they were much more independent because they owed their position to accidents of birth,

00:56:18.400 and therefore often, not always, but often felt quite an instinctive sense of duty in the way that

00:56:23.040 political cronies only really feel a duty to the people who planted them there. And so it just

00:56:26.760 becomes this sclerotic, highly politicized chamber rather than an august one, where duty rather than

00:56:33.000 careerism reigns supreme. The Lords has somewhat become a means of political parties rewarding

00:56:40.120 their most loyal devotees in a way, isn't it? Because you've had lots of cases whereby there

00:56:45.200 have been dodgy dealings whereby large donations have been given, and then a year or two later,

00:56:50.500 a peerage is awarded. Exactly, exactly. So it's just become an incredibly corrupt honour system,

00:56:56.280 far worse than the kind of dodgy dealings which did go on indeed, it must be said, in the 18th century.

00:57:00.720 But anyway, to go into this in more detail, because this is actually not the main subject

00:57:05.040 of my segment here, but if you want a detailed tour de force on Blair's revolution and the need

00:57:10.280 to undo it, people should watch Dr David Starkey's splendid speech, Connor and I were both there in

00:57:14.780 fact, at the recent New Culture Forum annual conference in Westminster. It's available on

00:57:19.600 YouTube and it's garnered a huge number of views and it got a lot of engagement. So as I say,

00:57:24.340 while the Conservative Party has spent the last 14 years obediently accommodating this new status quo,

00:57:30.380 people like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, now suspiciously close to Keir Starmer himself,

00:57:37.000 have had plenty of time to plot ways to entrench it further and to kill off the traditional

00:57:41.060 constitution of the United Kingdom, the sort of king, laws and commons,

00:57:45.980 in a way which makes it, at the moment, it's very difficult. I think Carl Benjamin has actually

00:57:52.860 said this before, either here, or he might have said it when he came as a guest on the New Culture

00:57:57.060 Forum. In fact, Blair's basic ambition, and Peter Hitchens is warned about this as well, and Starkey

00:58:02.440 mentions it too, was effectively to make conservative politics, real small-c conservative

00:58:07.320 politics, very, very difficult. If Keir Starmer succeeds, he may well make it impossible. And so

00:58:13.180 we have this new 150-page report, ominously titled A New Britain, which I'd any rate encourage

00:58:21.380 people to leaf through, maybe not to read the whole thing. I'm not sure if Gordon Brown's prose

00:58:27.820 particularly has much to recommend it. I doubt he wrote it himself, in fact, but it says he did.

00:58:32.600 But there is a very helpful summary of the contents of what new, new Labour under Keir Starmer has

00:58:40.260 planned for Britain, which was put together by Jay Sorrell, which I believe that is actually, I don't

00:58:45.440 know who he is, I think that might be a pseudonym, in fact, at Toby Young's The Daily Skeptic. And Sorrell

00:58:51.700 zones in on two particular aspects of this intensification of the Blairite revolution that

00:58:59.200 is likely to be on the horizon. So we've got the further subordination of Parliament to the judiciary,

00:59:06.220 which will give birth to an increase in the kind of human rights radicalism that has hampered so much

00:59:12.540 of our politics. So we even had the case, you know more about it than I do, Connor. What was that?

00:59:16.300 It was an ECHR case.

00:59:17.920 Oh, well, the boomers used Article 2 and Article 8 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. So

00:59:23.520 that's the right to life and the right to a private family life to argue that because global warming was

00:59:29.000 increasing average temperatures, didn't provide evidence of that, that four elderly women, one of

00:59:34.220 whom died during the proceedings of just old age, couldn't go on holiday, couldn't swim in their pool,

00:59:38.800 couldn't sit on their balcony and couldn't go outside without wearing a hat. And therefore,

00:59:42.000 this was a human rights violation that required all member states to take immediate and accelerated

00:59:46.080 action on climate change. So it's too hot for the boomers to have a cruise,

00:59:50.660 therefore in debt the entire next generation with windmills.

00:59:53.500 Indeed so. You know, that's a very fabulous pithy summary of what went down there. And we saw

00:59:58.500 recently a similar thing where I believe it was the Supreme Court in Britain, in fact, which I

01:00:02.960 should have probably got a link to this, but people can look it up. The Supreme Court in Britain

01:00:07.100 ruled that drilling for oil and well gas licenses in Surrey is now an obligation for all people

01:00:16.020 engaged in such activities to take account of the effect they're having on the climate.

01:00:20.300 The life, they have to, this is the Friends of the Earth case, this, they have to calculate the

01:00:24.300 lifetime emissions released by the use of their product when it's out of their hands, not just

01:00:30.300 during drilling. Because of course, we don't have to calculate the lifetime emissions of importing it

01:00:33.860 from overseas when it's done far less cleanly and far cheaper. Instead, we just have to actively

01:00:39.120 destroy our own energy manufacturing capacity. It is also worth mentioning to any Americans that

01:00:44.200 are watching that the name Supreme Court is trying to steal some of the prestige of the U.S. Supreme

01:00:49.340 Court. I think that was deliberate by Blair, who's quite a canny sort of PR operator in the first

01:00:54.700 place. But actually it is, as you're alluding to, an avenue for judicial activism more so than

01:01:00.640 the U.S. Supreme Court that I think is actually doing a rather good job as far as the other

01:01:05.180 branches of government are concerned.

01:01:05.900 Yes, it is definitely true, Josh. I mean, all Supreme Courts and any human institution,

01:01:11.500 in fact, there's always a risk that it can be politicized in a very overt way. But at the moment,

01:01:17.040 the U.S. Supreme Court, its reputation is holding up together much better than ours.

01:01:21.120 Well, I think the reason is, is because the appointments are expressly political. Like the

01:01:24.340 President himself, during his term, appoints the judges. Therefore, they know their

01:01:28.200 their partisanship and you know that you have to live under the, the dictates of,

01:01:33.480 fortunately at this point, one party is adherent to the Constitution and another party just hates

01:01:37.780 the Constitution. So if the Republicans put someone in, at least you're going to get someone

01:01:40.600 that's according to the spirit of America rather than just judicial activists. But over here,

01:01:44.300 I don't actually know what the appointment process is for Supreme Court justices. But I did,

01:01:49.380 I know when I, when I spoke to Liz in her book, when she was working in the Department for Justice,

01:01:53.000 she made certain recommendations. I think she was the first female Lord Chancellor and all of the

01:01:59.380 other people that were meant to be advising her at the time that much more senior said,

01:02:02.580 no, no, we're not going to put that into effect because we're going to tell the judges to overrule

01:02:05.940 your, you, you appoint our guy instead. So the it's, you've got no, it's politicized,

01:02:12.980 but it's the people that are doing the appointments have no direct accountability to

01:02:16.280 the people they're meant to be ruling over.

01:02:18.360 Absolutely. But I also think the, the really crucial thing that makes our Supreme Court much

01:02:22.540 more, um, uh, liable to be infiltrated by a kind of human rights radicalism, as Sula Bravman would

01:02:27.980 want to call it a kind of left-wing policymaking, um, unit by the back door, so to speak, sort of

01:02:33.500 bypassing the need to get it, oh God, the incredibly tedious business of having to get it through

01:02:37.920 parliament, all that sort of, all that sort of thing is because the U S Supreme Court, which was set

01:02:42.680 up in 1787 was deliberately set up as a kind of national Supreme Court. And there was an understanding

01:02:46.600 that it was going, there was going to be this political process, all parties would have a,

01:02:49.680 would have a hand in the people who got appointed to it in the British case, because this was more

01:02:54.720 of a political plot by new labor, the conservative side of politics. And I mean that in a small

01:03:00.360 C sense was rather caught off guard. So whereas the U S have had U S Republicans have had quite

01:03:05.340 a long time. Well, the fed, they were the federalists back then, but the mutation to the Republicans

01:03:09.300 under, under Abraham Lincoln, they've had a lot of time to set up things like the federalist

01:03:13.740 society, which deliberately try and get together good originalist judges who can do the conservative

01:03:19.120 bidding on the Supreme Court. All of our appointees, which I believe there's some political oversight

01:03:23.680 involved. They're all creatures of that kind of new labor revolution because it was much

01:03:28.080 more political, a political project by Blair rather than a national project at the initiation

01:03:32.980 of the birth of a, of a new nation. So that, that's concern as well. And I'm just going to quote

01:03:36.640 a passage from this excellent summary, which is much shorter than the 150 document, a page

01:03:43.000 document written by, by Gordon Brown. And, um,

01:03:46.180 Mercifully was also not written by Gordon Brown.

01:03:48.260 Mercifully not written by Gordon Brown. He's got a very, very neat, pithy style as well, this chap,

01:03:52.020 Jay Sorrell, whoever he happens to be. So just to get, just to kind of, um, make it more tangible

01:03:56.620 and concrete to people, he writes the following.

01:03:59.020 Consider small boats. Under the current system, a reforming government could solve, solve the problem

01:04:04.740 of illegal immigration tomorrow. It could legislate to make the Rwanda scheme legal or leave the UCHR

01:04:11.300 or declare a state of emergency. This would require a simple majority in the House of Commons

01:04:16.340 or in extremis, the creation of several hundred new peers. With a new Britain, quote unquote,

01:04:22.220 and judicial review, the issue will be taken entirely out of elected hands. Judges will simply

01:04:27.260 enforce the principle that every human is entitled to live in a Western country. So at the, at the moment,

01:04:32.680 we're being hampered by the lack of a political will, and that's bad enough. In the future,

01:04:36.540 it could be irrelevant. Even if there is a political will, it could be made totally irrelevant.

01:04:40.480 You'd have to, you'd have to, you'd have to go through the incredibly exacting, uh, laborious

01:04:45.740 process of unentrenching, entrenched constitutional rights, which would be, which, um, uh, redound

01:04:53.720 to the interests of immigrants in this case, and redound against the interests of the host population

01:04:58.840 that has already, um, had its patients tested, I would argue, for, for, for two decades at this

01:05:04.440 point. Um, and, uh, another, um, in particularly alarming aspect of this, uh, this, uh, doubling

01:05:12.180 down on the Blairite revolution is going to be the enshrining of the, of, um, new social rights.

01:05:18.740 Now, I don't know what our views are, gents on, on, I mean, rights languages can, can be insidious

01:05:23.980 enough politically, but when you, when you're, when you're, um, prefacing the word rights by,

01:05:28.080 by social, uh, you should always be concerned about what your political opponents might have

01:05:32.900 planned for you, and so I'm going to actually quote from page 12 of, um, if we can go back

01:05:37.520 to the commission on the UK's future, the, the original report, is that possible?

01:05:41.100 Yep, just, there we go.

01:05:42.380 There we go. If you go to page 12, which you don't need to, I can just read it, he, um,

01:05:46.160 Gordon Brown, or some, one of his spads, or whoever it might be.

01:05:49.180 He had one eye on it at all times, I'm sure.

01:05:51.640 Now, that is cruel. And maybe it's David Blunkett.

01:05:53.520 There should be new constitutionally protected social rights, like the right to healthcare,

01:05:58.040 for all based on need, not ability to pay, that reflect the current shared understanding

01:06:02.060 of the minimum standards and public services that a British citizen should be guaranteed.

01:06:06.100 That's an explicitly communist statement.

01:06:07.680 I was about to say exactly that, yeah.

01:06:09.220 That's healthcare communism. That's not from each according to his ability to pay,

01:06:12.140 that's each according to his need to be serviced by some Nigerian we imported yesterday.

01:06:16.460 Indeed. And communism is bad enough when it's a political agenda, when it becomes

01:06:21.180 an irreversible, um, you know, constitutional, well, a very tough to reverse constitutional

01:06:27.920 de jure system. It's even more insidious. Um, and, uh, I, I had to, I had to quote this

01:06:35.000 sentence as well, because I think it's the most alarming that I came across when I lived through

01:06:38.340 the 150 page document and see if you can spot the insidious throw, throw away line to which I'm

01:06:44.860 referring. Uh, this is on, but I don't know the page number. So that no child, family or elderly

01:06:49.940 citizen need live in poverty. Every person legitimately present, every person legitimately

01:06:58.220 present in the UK shall be entitled to social assistance in relation to periods of unemployment,

01:07:03.340 disability or old age in accordance with the relevant laws. No person, no person shall be left

01:07:09.220 destitute. So it's a constitutional right to 70% of small is getting social housing.

01:07:14.940 Another insidious aspect of that is the definition of poverty, because of course,

01:07:19.200 if you define poverty as it's currently defined in the UK, as a certain percentage beneath the

01:07:24.700 median, then poverty can never be eliminated. And you'll always have a modus operandi for

01:07:30.320 economic redistribution. Yes. And that will just, yes, I hadn't thought about the definitions of

01:07:35.040 poverty as well. And, and you'll, you will also, it will, it will, you would imagine as well that

01:07:39.340 it will have an incredibly distorting effect on voting because surely what you're going to get in

01:07:44.900 that, in that case is an even higher number of dependents in the political system. I mean,

01:07:50.880 enterprising people are going to get the hell out of here, leaving you with a higher proportion of

01:07:55.220 dependents in the population, whether, whether foreign dependents or, or homegrown dependents,

01:07:59.600 who I'm generally more sympathetic to. It's a permanent clientele state. Exactly. Yeah. But

01:08:04.480 the other, the other insidious part is legitimately present. Yes. Not legally present. Yeah,

01:08:10.000 yeah, yeah. Legitimately. And who declares the legitimacy? He who does the constitutional

01:08:14.820 revolution. Indeed, indeed. If I can be very pompous for a second. Sovereign is,

01:08:20.140 who decides the state of exception. I think these people are going to be deciding

01:08:26.340 what counts as legitimately. You quote Schmidt in the original German. Blimey.

01:08:31.160 I was going to say the same thing, except not in the original German.

01:08:35.300 Sorry, I couldn't help myself. As soon as Connor brought that up, I knew what he was alluding

01:08:38.520 to. And we're also, so immigrants will receive a constitutionally entrenched right to be subsidized

01:08:44.980 at our expense, fundamentally. And if that isn't rich enough, when it comes to, you know, a kind

01:08:51.700 of pathologically altruistic xenophilia and a kind of, you know, studied contempt for your own people

01:08:59.580 and your own duties to them. We're also staring down the barrel of a further clampdown on free

01:09:05.380 speech to protect as ever. We saw, you know, talk of Hindu phobia earlier. Well, Hindu phobia is still

01:09:12.660 on the rise as a concept. Islamophobia has been entrenched for quite a while and it may now be on the

01:09:17.160 verge of being entrenched in law. So we're going to go to, oh, I should probably say as well, before

01:09:22.320 we go to our now mutual boss at the New Culture Forum, Peter Whittle, I think a lot of this has

01:09:29.540 to do with Starmer's flirtation at any rate with the concept of potentially a new blasphemy law

01:09:37.280 designed to protect Muslims from, you know, having their feelings trampled upon.

01:09:42.960 Wouldn't you just quote Hadith verses that make them look bad?

01:09:45.360 Yes, gosh, you know, that could be an optics, you know, nightmare. I think this has a large part to

01:09:50.860 do with the fact that Starmer, precisely because he's cautious to just distance himself from the

01:09:54.960 Corbyn legacy, has been very muted on Israel-Gaza. He's not, he seems to have lent, as most politicians

01:10:02.340 in the Western world have done, moral and diplomatic support to Israel in the war to avenge the grotesque

01:10:08.780 attacks that happened on the 7th of October. And I think it's partly as a way of trying to limit the

01:10:13.940 hemorrhaging of the Muslim vote, which is, again, an important clientele class for a Labour

01:10:19.400 party which long ago ditched solidarity with the working classes for the politics of minoritarian

01:10:24.380 grievance. The meaning of Islamophobia will be further watered down and then altogether criminalised.

01:10:30.360 So Peter Whittle, my boss at the New Culture Forum, now mutual boss with Connor, has put out a very

01:10:35.000 important video recently warning us to prepare for Starmer's very censorious plans. If we can just play the

01:10:40.160 first minute of it, yes, absolutely. Hello, I'm Peter Whittle. Now, if you've been following the

01:10:46.900 election, you might have seen this Labour Party video. If not, then take a look at this cosy chat

01:10:53.840 between Keir Starmer and the London Mayor Sadiq Khan. One of the things that is coming up over and over

01:11:00.280 again is Islamophobia. And, well, you can see the stats, you can see the numbers rising, particularly

01:11:06.400 since October the 7th. Although we shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking that before October the

01:11:11.580 7th, this was all heading in the right direction and it's been far too high for far too long. Clearly,

01:11:17.200 we need to just say over and over again, Islamophobia is intolerable. It can never, ever be justified.

01:11:25.460 And we have to continue with a zero tolerance approach. And I think there's more we can do in

01:11:31.060 government. There's certainly stuff online, which I think needs tackling much more robustly than it

01:11:35.780 is at the moment. What I'm hoping, Keir, is your experience as a prosecutor means you'll be thinking

01:11:40.240 about the strategy we can use to make sure we take action against those who break the law.

01:11:44.480 Now, despite... Why is he dressed like Karni Drogba's rubber-dinging rapids?

01:11:48.740 Britain Islam? Sorry, I just had to note that. Who's Karni Drogba? The Independent Journalist?

01:11:54.420 Yes. My favourite Rwandan ambassador. The funny thing is, I agreed with everything

01:11:58.720 Keir Starmer said, except about the term Islamophobia. So he made it sound as if, well,

01:12:04.260 you know, Islamophobia is this pervasive thing, but it's the use of the term to silence legitimate

01:12:10.780 criticism of Islam, which there are many. To say the least, Josh. And also as well, I think

01:12:16.460 the other thing that I'm always keen to point out to people, because, you know, despite my objections

01:12:22.740 to Islam as a set of religious dogmas and my objection to the Islamisation of my own country,

01:12:29.720 not least as a Christian, quite apart from all that, I don't want to see, you know, Muslim

01:12:35.040 businesses subjected to a kind of anti-Muslim Kristallnacht of any kind. But the one thing

01:12:41.160 that I always do find puzzling when Islamophobia is put on a pedestal with anti-Semitism, and

01:12:47.640 I would want to put in anti-white rhetoric in this country as well, when it's sort of put

01:12:52.320 on an equal playing field with anti-Semitism, does Islam strike you as a politically, as

01:12:57.380 a particularly cowed political force in this country? I mean, just to give you one point

01:13:01.460 of contact with us, how many Jewish people do you know who engage in acts of public prayer,

01:13:07.160 let alone in London?

01:13:07.700 None, and a lot of synagogues have security.

01:13:11.700 Indeed, and I think we have a Reuters article next up, which shows that the UK government

01:13:17.300 has made a conscious point of increasing security funding for Jewish people.

01:13:21.040 They probably should have done that as well to the white working class girls in various

01:13:24.280 towns across Britain that were subjected to, I don't know, I suppose you could call the

01:13:27.640 grooming gangs an Islamic hate crime?

01:13:29.560 That might have been a reasonable use of government funds, though certainly that's true, but it goes

01:13:34.960 to show that if we're going to engage in conversations about what is more serious, and I would agree

01:13:39.380 with you, that's why I wanted to put anti-white in, because I think it's far too popular to

01:13:43.240 object to the Islamization of Europe or to object to mass demographic transformation of

01:13:47.340 our countries, but we need to do it in polite liberal terms, and we need to say that we're

01:13:50.560 doing it for the Jews, we're doing it for women, we're doing it for gays. I would also want to put

01:13:55.120 in, and for the majority population, which doesn't want to see this happen to them either, but

01:13:58.660 nevertheless, it goes to show that if it's being put, which is routinely put on a, sort of equated

01:14:04.200 with anti-Semitism, Islam seems to me to be an emboldened force in this country, it's flexing

01:14:09.880 its muscles, it's intimidating MPs into resigning, it's completely distorting parliamentary

01:14:16.620 procedure, we saw that with Sir Lindsay Hoyle, so it doesn't strike me as particularly bashful,

01:14:21.480 and so I, that's just one common sense point of contact with what's really going on on the ground.

01:14:28.460 Yeah, modesty, not among the pantheon of Islamic virtues, is it?

01:14:31.280 Definitely not. Well, immediately again, after October the 7th happened, those prayers outside

01:14:37.000 Downing Street were not in solidarity. Yes. They were not for the victims, they were not for any

01:14:43.120 Palestinians who had yet been killed in the crossfire, because the retaliation hadn't started

01:14:47.440 yet. They were prayers of victory, so that is to be remembered. Indeed.

01:14:52.160 It is also worth bearing in mind a game I like to play sometimes when people question the violent

01:14:57.400 nature of Islam, I say, here is my copy of the Quran, I'm going to open it at random, and you will find

01:15:01.840 on any page a call to violence. Yeah, yeah. And every time I've done it, every single time,

01:15:08.500 I've always been able to find it. Yeah, no, it's, again, they're not pretty, they're not bashful

01:15:14.120 about hiding that either. So I thought we'd look into a bit of Whittle's own analysis of this,

01:15:21.680 because he quotes from a definition that is going to be used by Keir Starmer in drafting up what seems

01:15:28.020 likely to be legislation. I mean, it was quite ambiguous there. Starmer was, in some senses,

01:15:31.900 it was ambiguous. I mean, the political motivation was not at all ambiguous. But, you know, there was

01:15:35.200 talk of, we need to tackle that online. And I suspect that we, given our online presence,

01:15:41.860 whether it's through low decedars or whether it's through the New Culture Forum and European

01:15:45.560 Conservative and other places, we might be victims of a kind of expansion of Ofcom's remit.

01:15:51.100 That seems to be a perfectly plausible outcome. And they'll outsource the enforcement to various

01:15:56.180 state-sponsored quangos, like Hope Not Hate, or the, and obviously the definition was formulated by

01:16:01.760 the all-party parliamentary group on Islamophobia, but they have various underlings, various Islamic

01:16:08.560 advocacy organisations that are also, ironically, against the Labour Party, tied into the Muslim

01:16:12.980 vote initiative. Yes, they need not even introduce any new infrastructure to do this sort of thing.

01:16:17.740 They can just use Section 127 of the Communications Act and use the politicisation of the police,

01:16:23.140 which, you know, has been going on for quite some time now.

01:16:26.100 That was under Thatcher from the public order bills.

01:16:27.780 Yeah. To just encourage the police to go after this more often.

01:16:34.000 So it might not even require new legislation.

01:16:36.200 No.

01:16:36.820 They could just draw on existing legislation in a very overt fashion.

01:16:39.800 So there's that aspect to it. But then the thing that made me think that rather than just

01:16:44.000 use of existing legislation and expanding Ofcom's remit and, you know, dispersing yet more power

01:16:49.460 to these sort of, to the NGO-ocracy, as some people like to call it, I found it very, very

01:16:55.540 alarming there when Sadiq Khan saying, oh, and you've got, of course, got your legal background

01:16:58.720 as well, don't you, Sakir? So, you know, you have, you have, you have a background in sort

01:17:02.160 of tackling this sort of stuff. But this is going to be legislative, in my view.

01:17:05.320 And the legislative form it will take is here quoted by Peter Whittle.

01:17:10.540 ...is an invented word which has been used time and again to stifle argument and valid

01:17:16.660 opinion. But this new definition widens it to such an extent that all debate or discussion

01:17:24.240 on a whole range of enormously important issues will be effectively shut down.

01:17:29.880 The definition was agreed by an all-parliamentary party group and reads

01:17:35.160 thus, quote, Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets

01:17:42.160 expressions of muslimness or perceived muslimness.

01:17:48.300 Thoughts?

01:17:49.520 Gibberish, isn't it? Muslimness.

01:17:52.140 What is a muslimness? Isn't that Matt Walsh's next documentary?

01:17:55.260 What is a muslim? We might need it.

01:17:56.500 Yeah, it's conceptual clarification. Do you have something to say?

01:17:59.160 Yeah. I don't remember the race of Islam. I believe it's a theological doctrine in which

01:18:07.580 anyone from anywhere can sign up to.

01:18:10.500 But you can't easily quit it.

01:18:11.920 Yeah, that's true. You can't have second thoughts. But yeah, the racial element is just capitalising

01:18:17.400 on the prevailing wind, isn't it? It's trying to make it sound all the more egregious that

01:18:22.320 it's merely racist rather than being prejudiced against a particular religious belief, which

01:18:28.760 actually is seen as far more acceptable in this current day.

01:18:32.500 And as G.K. Chesterton warns us as well, evil always takes advantage of ambiguity.

01:18:36.840 And we have a case study of ambiguity there.

01:18:38.700 So it seems like a further part of Kistama's brewing revolution will be,

01:18:47.520 we will see that sort of the passage of a de facto blasphemy law, which exists in the

01:18:50.960 United Kingdom already. I mean, has anyone checked in on the teacher at Batley Grammar

01:18:55.420 School lately? I mean, he is suffering from the existence of a sort of de facto blasphemy

01:18:59.240 law, becoming an insidious de jure one that favours this new Muslim clientele class, this

01:19:04.420 growing Muslim clientele class in British politics, and counts yet again against the host population

01:19:09.180 that has already been subjected to a reckless demographic experiment.

01:19:13.200 So we have a political class that not only imports foreign, often hostile, dependents,

01:19:19.400 but then presumes to forbid us from criticising them.

01:19:23.100 So fair warning, after the election, we need to be ready for a two-front war, in my view.

01:19:28.520 One for the soul of the right, and we've spoken about that in Conor's segment in particular,

01:19:32.080 but the other, probably more difficult, against the escalated belligerence of a slick,

01:19:36.900 motivated, highly well-organised left.

01:19:39.140 Very good, and with that, on to the video comments, please.

01:19:47.220 At the bottom of the list, you might want to go to the top one.

01:19:50.260 Yeah, Rishi Sunak is just haunting us here.

01:19:52.380 Yeah, grinning, gloating face.

01:19:55.960 Yeah, well, he won't be haunting us much longer.

01:19:57.980 No, quite.

01:19:59.940 There we go, we're just fighting tech issues.

01:20:03.960 Here we go.

01:20:05.520 Hey, look, it's my shirt.

01:20:06.820 Italian food is just great.

01:20:11.220 It really is.

01:20:11.680 It's just natural.

01:20:12.560 The dirty little secret when it comes to Italian food is that it's not very good.

01:20:17.380 It's an exercise in taking meager ingredients and trying to make them taste less meager.

01:20:22.100 The paucity of nutrition, particularly the lack of vitamin D in their food,

01:20:25.640 is why they were hit so hard in the early, deadly waves of COVID-19.

01:20:30.100 Contrast with Japan that has excellent food, and they weathered the early phases much better.

01:20:34.780 Okay, I agree in terms of the carb intensity of it, because I don't really eat that.

01:20:41.440 But the idea that it isn't tasty, like the nutrient profile, fair enough.

01:20:45.060 But no, pizza's delicious.

01:20:48.020 I'm sorry to say that's true.

01:20:49.580 I respect the fact immensely that you've gone for such a controversial opinion as Italian food is not good.

01:20:56.520 I respect that a lot.

01:20:57.640 I like Italian food.

01:20:58.740 It's not my favorite, but I credit to you for that.

01:21:02.380 It's mental.

01:21:02.900 Right, California Refugee with the botany report.

01:21:05.060 So here's my Datura ritei plant.

01:21:07.120 It's really healthy, and it's got a few flowers that are going to bloom.

01:21:10.720 And I want to show you just how quickly these flowers actually bloom and then die away.

01:21:15.740 Forgot to do it last night, but they're still kind of in bloom.

01:21:18.720 But these two bloomed last night, and then this more vibrant one is blooming tonight.

01:21:25.240 And just like that, they are all wilted and done for.

01:21:28.280 I love these.

01:21:31.500 It's so great.

01:21:32.400 And I actually know about Datura quite a lot because it's used in South America.

01:21:37.440 Vice actually did a documentary about it.

01:21:39.460 You can use, I think it's the flowers.

01:21:41.320 They crush it up into a powder and blow it into people's faces.

01:21:43.840 And all of a sudden, because it's a psychoactive thing, it can be used to basically control people.

01:21:50.720 Like you take over their mind because they become so suggestible.

01:21:53.460 It's also a deliriant as well.

01:21:55.400 And people take it recreationally, although it would be thoroughly unpleasant because I've read accounts of people talking to invisible people and losing days of their time in hellish-like states.

01:22:09.300 So there's real-life poison ivy.

01:22:11.420 That's mental.

01:22:12.980 Okay.

01:22:13.520 All right.

01:22:13.920 On with the next one.

01:22:15.680 The desecration of Stonehenge as national heritage was very problematic, but also as religious iconography and symbology.

01:22:23.860 This is coming from somebody that would even see religion as being an evolutionary adaptation and not necessarily being religious.

01:22:31.800 But I still think it has use and beauty because it calls on that part of you to be introspective and to grapple with your soul and to not be in touch with a destructive urge.

01:22:41.940 There's a reason that Hardy used it as his concluding motif in Tess of the D'Urbervilles, because there's some sort of connection via ancestor worship.

01:22:51.560 It's almost like an altar to the past.

01:22:53.740 And so the idea that they just douse it in, ironically, carbon paint from a fire extinguisher.

01:23:01.380 They're climate jihadists, and I think they should be given the exact same sentence.

01:23:04.860 I think they just all need to be prescribed as a terrorist group.

01:23:07.180 So that's all of them, all of their subsidiaries, they should be treated as terrorists.

01:23:11.620 So there you go.

01:23:13.680 On with our...

01:23:14.360 A gentleman's observations of Swindon, Chapter 6.

01:23:17.040 Swindon had 27 households in 1086, 248 poor taxpayers in 1334, 600 residents in 1705, 1,198 residents in 1801, the first national census, by the way, 1,600 residents in 1814, and 2,495 residents in 1841.

01:23:33.840 Swindonians were apparently a notable settled people, even in their irrelevance.

01:23:37.180 As it was noted that, despite other places holding better opportunities, Swindon was not a town that its occupants readily moved from or changed.

01:23:44.560 Yeah, it wasn't until GWR was established here, and then I think it was the NHS, if I remember Rory telling me correctly, that the town had a bit of a boom.

01:23:53.660 Well, it was that they set up a, I think, the first public library, which was the inspiration for the NHS model.

01:24:01.960 But that was GWR, a private company, setting up for their employees.

01:24:06.000 Yeah, well, GWR, I mean, go read Rory's articles on the website about the sort of decline of GWR, and now it's hollowed out the town, because it's fantastic pros.

01:24:14.300 But also, you can walk around the shopping centres and see, it's almost like walking through the ribcage of a great beast, all of the apparatus that used to lower the engines into the cabooses and that.

01:24:25.220 And now there's a KFC and a Ralph Lauren outlet right next to it.

01:24:29.760 It gives me the same feeling as seeing a washed-up whale skeleton on a beach.

01:24:34.640 Like, it was once a great thing, a wonderful thing, that now is just a sort of shadow of its former self, not where it belongs.

01:24:42.220 Yeah, it's like the death of the Kraken in the third Pirates of the Caribbean film.

01:24:45.160 Or that, yeah.

01:24:46.160 Yeah, well, you know, my frame of reference.

01:24:47.560 Anyway, on to the written comments on the website.

01:24:48.960 But JJHW, I've never bothered watching election results, but this time I will be watching Lotus Eaters.

01:24:53.900 Well, thank you very much.

01:24:55.000 We'll have more announcements as to guests and what we're going to do over the course of the few hours coming out in the coming weeks.

01:25:01.420 General Haiping, best opener in a long time.

01:25:05.880 Look, there are gremlins in the wires, and our fantastic new producer Samson is currently trying to undo some of the prior incompetence.

01:25:12.420 Sorry, this is my fault.

01:25:13.380 So please be patient with him, because he is doing the Lord's work, and this will be fixed.

01:25:19.160 It was my coverage of the Zimbabwean goblin attacks that have done this.

01:25:24.700 Okay, on the first, Harrison is TK Maxxing.

01:25:29.640 What does that mean?

01:25:30.460 As in, he thinks your wardrobe is from TK Maxx.

01:25:33.040 Oh, cheap, I think this is Charles Tyrwhitt.

01:25:34.860 How dare you?

01:25:36.140 But, you know, if you're Maxxing, it means you're doing something very well, at least.

01:25:39.040 Oh, does it?

01:25:39.540 Yeah, you're the perfect TK Maxx mannequin, apparently.

01:25:42.660 I think it's meant to be a compliment.

01:25:44.000 Oh, well, thank you then, thanks.

01:25:45.160 What do you think the chances are for these Tory MPs who are representing Red Wall seats to move to Reform UK once they're destroyed by Labour?

01:25:51.040 I personally think these people could be the key to changing public perception of the opposition to Labour.

01:25:54.220 To run again, some of them, I wouldn't be shocked.

01:26:00.100 I mean, I think some of them were hoping to win their seats and then defect to Reform while they were already in.

01:26:06.040 I don't see someone like Miriam doing that, though.

01:26:09.260 I could be wrong, but yeah.

01:26:12.280 Yeah, things change fast in politics, so I don't want to make any bets.

01:26:15.840 We've got a $3 super chat from not just a string, it's on Rumble, not YouTube, obviously.

01:26:21.740 A three-way hung parliament, either officially or practically, would be legendary.

01:26:25.080 I don't see that happening.

01:26:27.340 You're not going to get hung parliament with a massive Labour majority.

01:26:30.140 Labour is who are going to get a majority unless Farage really does an upset in the next few weeks.

01:26:35.120 And I don't think there's a time to do that.

01:26:37.020 But I do think there's a possibility that Reform, if he pulls a blinder in the next two weeks, could get more seats than Dory's.

01:26:43.680 That'd be amazing to watch.

01:26:45.100 I think the fulcrum of that would be a three-way leadership debate.

01:26:48.460 And that's why I don't think the BBC are all...

01:26:50.400 Ofcom aren't mandating them do it according to the polls, as far as I'm concerned.

01:26:53.960 That's why they don't want to do it.

01:26:55.040 But if you had Farage on stage with Sunak and Starmer, I think you'd see a massive poll shift.

01:26:59.400 And that would be very useful as well for the post-election narrative craft.

01:27:02.460 But as I said in my thing, we've got a renewed battle with a very motivated left.

01:27:07.880 But equally, we've got to fight for the soul of the right.

01:27:10.480 And there are going to be people like David Gork and Rory Stewart wanting to say,

01:27:13.180 well, clearly the Tory party have just been far too right-wing over the last 14 years.

01:27:17.200 If Farage completely eats up the Tory vote, not only those key marginals,

01:27:22.680 potentially wins more seats than the Tories,

01:27:24.600 those sort of op-eds in the New Statesman, they may still be written,

01:27:28.600 but they will be even less convincing than they already would be.

01:27:30.860 Yeah, Tobias Elwood will have to go from having two reasons to be called a column by Tork and GB,

01:27:35.980 which is playing containment, down to one reason,

01:27:37.980 which is all white boys should die in Ukraine for some reason.

01:27:41.360 Andrew Wilcox, I live in this Lib Dem Southwest stronghold mentioned,

01:27:44.320 and you were all 100% spot on.

01:27:45.920 If you live here, you can have all the luxury beliefs without having to deal with many of the consequences.

01:27:49.980 I agree, Bath is absolutely wonderful,

01:27:52.420 and it's full of people that are completely disconnected from what politics is actually about.

01:27:57.080 Peter Harvey, Connor, don't worry about the Commonwealth citizens voting.

01:27:59.800 My wife is foreign, is herself going to vote for Reform UK?

01:28:03.220 I'm sure she's lovely, that is not the predominant case, I'm afraid, my friend.

01:28:07.960 Again, it's much like, yes, they have one Muslim donor,

01:28:10.160 the overwhelming number of Muslims will vote for the Oldham Independent Party because they want Sharia law.

01:28:14.000 I'm sure your wife is an absolutely delightful woman from wherever she is from in the Commonwealth.

01:28:19.640 The overwhelming majority of Indians will vote for Hindu nationalism, even in the UK.

01:28:23.400 So I am worried about that, and I think it should be absolutely repealed,

01:28:26.740 and so does Rafe.

01:28:28.740 Rafe being an expert on the Commonwealth and himself not purely of English extraction is going,

01:28:34.980 yeah, we should bend that off, it's antiquated, it's just not right at the moment.

01:28:38.700 Last one.

01:28:39.540 Dave North, thank you, Connor, for saying we in Boston in Lincolnshire are reliable.

01:28:42.740 I'm doing what I can locally, might even be able to get access to the count.

01:28:45.940 We'll update you if you do.

01:28:47.420 Yeah, well, we'll have the chat open while we're live streaming and that,

01:28:51.060 and we'll be taking in Super Chat, so we'll be able to read those out for live responses.

01:28:54.640 We'll hopefully have live results coming out,

01:28:56.940 and if there are people that can provide us regular updates from on the ground

01:29:00.280 to give us, frankly, an edge as a sort of grassroots new media company operation

01:29:05.880 over the big Westminster lobbyists who have inside scoops, we'd really appreciate it.

01:29:10.320 So thank you for your support.

01:29:11.540 Could I just do a quick favour to Sam Weston as well?

01:29:13.300 I don't know if we're going to read another one, but it's a really easy answer.

01:29:15.120 So what was the book you recommended by Graham Allison Harrison?

01:29:17.000 It sounds like fascinating and insightful reading.

01:29:19.000 It really is.

01:29:19.740 Everyone should read it.

01:29:20.380 It's called Destined for War.

01:29:22.060 Can China and America Escape the Thucydides Trap?

01:29:25.800 Maybe don't type in the subtitle if you can't spell Thucydides,

01:29:28.180 but Destined for War, Graham Allison.

01:29:29.640 Excellent.

01:29:30.120 Josh?

01:29:30.340 Also, I was just going to quickly say, well done to Dave North

01:29:32.880 for actually going out and doing as much as you can locally.

01:29:35.300 I think that that's actually very important.

01:29:36.940 It does determine the direction of elections,

01:29:39.840 a very determined underground force.

01:29:41.580 Very much so.

01:29:42.040 So someone online says, ISIS has been crossing the southern border

01:29:45.060 since it was founded, plus Chinese nationals, plus the cartels.

01:29:48.760 Southwest is pretty screwed.

01:29:50.260 I think that's putting it lightly, yes.

01:29:52.000 But I think also it seems like there is a significant uptick

01:29:57.140 in the crossings, which is important, I think.

01:30:00.680 And Baron von Warhawk says,

01:30:02.340 as bad as Islamic terrorists sneaking across the border is,

01:30:04.960 I'm just concerned about the 30 Chinese men sneaking across the border as well.

01:30:08.300 Call me a conspiracy theorist, sorry,

01:30:11.220 but I can't help but think that 30 well-built men

01:30:13.820 from the largest communist country on Earth

01:30:15.520 are probably up to no good.

01:30:17.640 I think that's probably fair to say, yeah.

01:30:20.300 It's not like the Chinese tend to have any trouble

01:30:22.940 entering the United States legally anyway.

01:30:25.760 So the fact they're doing it illegally seems to indicate

01:30:27.980 that they're probably expecting to be denied

01:30:30.480 for some unscrupulous reason.

01:30:32.940 So Josie's Angel says,

01:30:37.280 New York has passed the right-to-shelter laws

01:30:39.220 that has led to uncalculable numbers of apartments

01:30:42.500 inhabited by squatters.

01:30:44.320 Any interactions with violators go to housing courts,

01:30:47.440 not to the police.

01:30:48.480 Terrifying.

01:30:49.880 The shadow band with a $50 donation.

01:30:53.080 Thank you very much.

01:30:53.900 Josh, if you ever do another contemplations on psychology,

01:30:56.980 please do one on age-inverted hierarchies

01:31:00.120 where kids tell off their parents, Maoism, USSR,

01:31:03.120 Puritans, Quakers, woke.

01:31:05.100 Well, I've got personal experience of that

01:31:06.700 because sometimes I tell my own parents off

01:31:09.260 for failing to uphold the table manners they talk to me.

01:31:13.800 So there we go.

01:31:15.460 Got lived experience too.

01:31:17.340 And another one as well.

01:31:19.580 What does do to a society long-term?

01:31:25.860 How long will it be that woke kids can tell off their elders?

01:31:30.240 Will we eventually return to a more normal hierarchy?

01:31:34.300 Not until the boomers die off.

01:31:36.400 Yeah, I think that there's a sort of parenting anomaly

01:31:40.160 in the boomer generation.

01:31:41.940 And I think actually lots of younger people are becoming,

01:31:46.480 the ones that actually choose to have children,

01:31:48.640 are becoming really quite good parents from what I've seen.

01:31:51.820 Just anecdotal experience.

01:31:52.860 And so, you know, I've not looked at research.

01:31:54.640 This isn't in my professional capacity.

01:31:56.540 But I'm actually quite impressed so far,

01:31:59.240 which is some good news for once, you know.

01:32:01.160 You get it once in a blue moon.

01:32:03.260 I'll just do, do you want to just do the top one from there, Harrison?

01:32:07.420 Oh, why don't you do this one?

01:32:09.700 Okay, right.

01:32:10.580 Ward, woo, to tie.

01:32:11.840 Harrison is right on the money

01:32:12.920 regarding the post-Blair ideological subversion

01:32:14.860 and that the communism described

01:32:16.300 is no longer a simple political force.

01:32:18.000 It is now the null hypothesis.

01:32:20.320 So I thought I'd read up one that's complimentary to you.

01:32:22.360 Very good.

01:32:23.040 Yeah, no, it's not going to be, you know,

01:32:27.760 the idea of politics as a contested field

01:32:32.340 will be taken out of the picture.

01:32:34.660 And that's the real way of winning.

01:32:37.560 It'll be neutral managerialism.

01:32:38.840 Neutral managerialism.

01:32:39.280 It's okay.

01:32:39.700 We're not divisive anymore.

01:32:40.720 We've all come together and agreed

01:32:42.040 how to impoverish you and destroy your civilization.

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01:32:55.000 Otherwise, thank you very much for watching.

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 21, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #942

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