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00:00:57.120 Hello, everyone, and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Caesars, episode 945. For today,

00:01:09.840 Wednesday the 26th of June, 2024. I'm oh so looking forward to that election night.

00:01:14.560 Oh, it brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?

00:01:16.240 It certainly will to Rishi Sunak.

00:01:17.600 I just want to know, who is going around Downing Street, getting really high quality footage,

00:01:23.440 of Rishi Sunak stimming to himself and fidgeting awkwardly.

00:01:27.920 A spad who is probably paid much better than we are.

00:01:30.720 Oh, fair play.

00:01:31.520 Depressing reality. Anyway, I'm your host Connor, joined by Josh and Harry.

00:01:34.720 Blue.

00:01:34.800 We haven't done this sort of setup for a long while.

00:01:36.880 No, we haven't.

00:01:37.440 No, it's not been this line-up for ages.

00:01:39.360 Yeah, anyway, to cheer you up, we're going to discuss some really fun stories today.

00:01:42.240 The freeing of Judy and Assange, how CNN aren't even hiding their bias ahead of the Trump-Biden

00:01:47.520 presidential debate, and hope-not-hate-doxing, friend of the show,

00:01:50.800 raw-egg nationalist, I suppose. And author for Islander Magazine,

00:01:56.080 which if you haven't picked up yet too late, you're far too late, and I'm sorry to say you're gay.

00:02:02.720 Like many on the dissident, right, in fact.

00:02:04.240 Exactly, that's true.

00:02:05.200 Other small announcement, 3 o'clock today. I mean, we haven't got it up on screen,

00:02:09.600 but it's on the website, my show, Thomson Talks.

00:02:12.000 I'll be chatting to Mary Harrington about the election, so we're good friends.

00:02:14.960 It's going to be a good laugh. Join us there if you haven't subscribed already.

00:02:17.760 Do so before. Without further ado, Josh, take it away.

00:02:21.440 So, the morning of the 12th of July 2007, you're in Iraq.

00:02:28.000 Here you are. You're in the Amin district of Baghdad in Iraq, to be precise,

00:02:34.240 which is all the way down here on this eastern side.

00:02:38.560 So, two Apache helicopters, much like this one, flying overhead. And around 9.50am,

00:02:47.760 there is a group of men, about 20 men, moving through the streets.

00:02:51.200 The Apache crew, manned by American soldiers, of course, mistakenly identifies camera equipment

00:02:59.360 carried by two Reuters journalists, Namir Noor Eldeen, I think, and Saeed Chma.

00:03:06.720 I don't know how to pronounce their second names, but I'm just going to refer to them

00:03:10.240 by their first names now. But they interpret this camera equipment as weapons.

00:03:14.480 So, because of this, the Apache crew request and receives permission to engage the group,

00:03:21.840 believing they are insurgents. This is at 9.53, so three minutes after spotting this group of people.

00:03:27.440 A minute later, the Apache crew opens fire on the group with their 30mm cannons,

00:03:34.320 killing several people immediately. So, Namir, one of the Reuters journalists,

00:03:39.360 tries to lie on the ground to avoid getting hit. But the Apache spots him and blasts him

00:03:46.160 with the cannons, killing him. Saeed tries to run away, but the gunner follows him as he's running

00:03:52.480 and guns him down as well, and he lies there injured. So, this is 9.54, about six minutes later,

00:03:59.360 about 10am. Van arrives to the scene, and the men inside try to assist the wounded Saeed.

00:04:05.360 The helicopter crew believe these rescuers are insurgents, and they gun them down as well,

00:04:11.200 after getting permission to engage. About 10.01am, the helicopter fires on the van. This kills

00:04:18.880 more men, and also injures two children inside. So, after the attack, American ground forces arrive

00:04:25.760 at the scene to investigate, of course, and they secure the area, and they discover the wounded

00:04:30.000 children in the van, and they provide medical assistance and evacuate them. And then, moving on

00:04:36.960 to the 5th of April 2010, WikiLeaks released a video of this event, showing all of this,

00:04:46.320 and titled it Collateral Murder, which is what it was. They didn't intend to murder journalists that

00:04:55.920 were there to document the conflict in Iraq. This was a mistake. And this actually came from

00:05:04.320 a disillusioned intelligence analyst, then going by Bradley Manning, now goes by Chelsea Manning,

00:05:11.120 different story. But they were given a 35-year prison sentence, and that, I believe, got pardoned

00:05:20.720 by Obama, so they only served a small amount of it. Which is also important because it informs

00:05:27.120 the Julian Assange case, of course, the founder of WikiLeaks, the website which released it. And

00:05:33.840 things like this, these sorts of things that governments want to keep from citizens, this

00:05:39.520 is very, very important stuff, isn't it? Because Reuters had been trying to get access to the

00:05:44.640 footage via Freedom of Information request since the incident happened in 2007, and they had not

00:05:50.880 succeeded because, of course, the military didn't want to willingly publish their mistakes. And so,

00:05:56.640 this releasing actually helped the, you know, the families of the victims get a bit of closure as

00:06:01.200 to what happened, as well as proper investigations into this happening. However, even with pressure

00:06:08.800 from Reuters and the press, because, of course, it was a massive scandal, the military concluded that the

00:06:14.320 actions of the soldiers were in accordance with the law of armed conflict and its own rules of

00:06:19.040 engagement, which is not true, really. So, websites like WikiLeaks publish secret government documents

00:06:27.360 to expose government crimes, I think it's fair to say. I think it's uncontroversial to call this a

00:06:34.640 crime. These are journalists, they didn't correctly identify weapons, that was camera equipment. None of

00:06:41.520 the people seemed to be armed, in fact.

00:06:43.680 Well, I suppose you can make the argument that if they were documenting the war crimes of the Iraq

00:06:49.200 War, it would be a weapon against the American government. So, ironically, it did not cause

00:06:55.280 them to fire on them, but there's a bitter irony there.

00:06:57.760 Yeah. But the war in Iraq, which, of course, Britain was a part of as well, and many other

00:07:02.960 countries as well, saw over 100,000 civilian casualties. And, of course, this wasn't all the

00:07:08.640 US military, of course. There was an opposing side as well, which was probably far more

00:07:13.600 indiscriminate. And, of course, there were cases as well of Australians and British soldiers

00:07:20.720 killing civilians too. But it is important to look at the cases and not bury them so we

00:07:26.480 can improve upon that, right? Because, ideally, you want war to be conducted as cleanly as possible.

00:07:31.360 Of course, it's not necessarily a perfect target to aspire to, but one should still aspire to meet it.

00:07:37.920 And I thought it would be important to talk about who is Julian Assange, and why did he set up

00:07:42.640 WikiLeaks? Why is it important that this sort of work can be done without being pursued by the US

00:07:47.920 government? Because that's what has ultimately happened to him. So, he's an Australian citizen.

00:07:53.520 He was born in 1971. He founded WikiLeaks in 2006. And in around April of 2010, as I touched on,

00:08:00.480 they released this video of this helicopter which killed 11 Iraqi civilians. And then,

00:08:06.560 moving on another month, WikiLeaks released 91,000 documents on the Afghanistan war.

00:08:12.640 And then, shortly after this, Assange, I believe, was living in Sweden. Swedish prosecutors issued,

00:08:20.560 and then withdrew, I'm not entirely sure why, an arrest warrant for Assange over a sexual assault

00:08:26.640 allegation. And we're going to revisit this later on down the line, because it's quite often brought

00:08:32.000 up in this case. But I think there is a certain amount where you can separate the WikiLeaks work,

00:08:38.160 where it's other people submitting stuff to the website he created, and Assange, the man, right?

00:08:46.000 These are two separate entities, and you can appreciate the work that goes on WikiLeaks without

00:08:52.160 necessarily having to approve of the person. And so, for some reason, they reopened the investigation

00:09:00.000 again in September of 2010, which prompts Assange to move to the UK. And then WikiLeaks in October

00:09:06.240 released 400,000 classified Iraq war files, and then thousands of US diplomatic cables. I think that

00:09:13.840 this might be the thing that really sealed the deal for the US going after them, right?

00:09:17.520 And the Swedish court again orders for Assange's arrest. And he is arrested in the UK, but freed

00:09:24.400 on bail. He then breaks the conditions of his bail. And the UK court in 2011 orders Assange to be

00:09:32.640 extradited to Sweden, which he appeals. He then gets asylum in an Ecuadorian embassy in London. The

00:09:39.200 Ecuadorians wanted to basically put their middle finger up to the Americans. It's just like, Americans are

00:09:45.680 annoyed at this guy. So we're going to protect him as a sort of bargaining chip for our own needs.

00:09:52.320 I think that's why they got involved here. But this was June of 2012. And the Swedish court again

00:10:00.960 wishes to uphold the arrest warrant in July of 2014. So he's been taking sort of asylum, if you will,

00:10:08.480 in the embassy in London, the Ecuadorian embassy. He was there for a total of, I think, seven years.

00:10:15.120 So some of the allegations were dropped in August of 2015 due to statute of limitations,

00:10:22.400 but there's still an investigation remaining. In October of 2015, the UK police and their 24 hour

00:10:29.520 guard outside the embassy, but they say they will still arrest him if he leaves. And then

00:10:35.360 moving on to May 2017, the Swedish prosecutors discontinue the investigation into the embassy

00:10:42.560 stay. And then in April of 2019, this is where a lot of things start kicking off. He is arrested

00:10:50.240 after he has his embassy stay revoked. And there's lots of speculation as to why this happened. One of

00:10:56.800 the more interesting ones was he was kind of difficult to stay with.

00:11:00.000 Wasn't it rumoured that he refused to shower and therefore just smelled terrible?

00:11:06.640 Yes. I've heard a similar thing. I can't confirm it, but there are other people who have corroborated

00:11:15.920 that account that he's, you know, not a fan of showering. So, you know, a bit unfortunate,

00:11:23.200 isn't it? But it carries on. So he's sentenced for 50 weeks in prison for skipping bail in the UK

00:11:30.960 and the Swedish prosecutors reopen investigation. However, he was sent to Belmarsh prison, which

00:11:38.480 is this, and this is infamous in the UK. He was also held there in solitary confinement for 23 hours a

00:11:45.520 day. And he actually ended up serving 62 months rather than 50 weeks. And Belmarsh prison is known for

00:11:52.000 housing people like Abu Hamza, the Islamic hate preacher, if you will, the Lee Rigby killers,

00:11:58.720 the people who beheaded an English soldier, Charles Bronson, famed, you know, for the Tom Hardy movie

00:12:07.360 about him. And worst of all, Tommy Robinson has been there as well. So, yes, this is a very infamous

00:12:15.600 prison is known as one of the strictest and one of the most harsh in terms of conditions.

00:12:21.440 And so in June of 2019, the US formally requests Assange's extradition to face hacking and espionage

00:12:27.760 charges. It's interesting that it took this long, isn't it? It's curious. But November of 2019,

00:12:33.760 the Swedish prosecutors dropped the investigation due to insufficient evidence. And then it carries

00:12:39.280 on into 2020. The UK courts begin the extradition hearings delayed by COVID. And then a UK judge rules

00:12:46.880 against extradition to the US due to his mental health, which if you've been in solitary confinement

00:12:53.440 for 23 hours a day for 62 months, one can imagine that's a very legitimate thing. He's not putting it

00:13:01.280 on. So UK High Court then grants US permission to appeal this decision. And then the UK High Court rules

00:13:09.920 that the US assurances of fair treatment are sufficient to guarantee his extradition,

00:13:16.800 because that's one of the conditions for the UK to extradite someone to another country is that

00:13:21.440 they're going to be tried in a humane fashion. And then the UK Supreme Court denies Assange's

00:13:27.840 appeal against this. And then in June of 2022, the UK orders the extradition again. And then May of 23,

00:13:39.200 Australian Prime Minister, I believe Anthony Albanese at that point, calls for his release,

00:13:44.480 because the Australians, of course, him being an Australian national, were quite big on seeing him

00:13:49.440 released. Because of course, Australian citizenship would mean less if Australian citizens can be tried

00:13:56.560 by foreign governments for conducting what amounts to journalism, right? So in 2020, yeah,

00:14:07.040 the High Court said he cannot appeal his extradition after the intervention by the Australian Prime

00:14:12.720 Minister. And then it goes to February of this year, 2024. His lawyers launch a final legal bid to

00:14:20.160 stop this extradition. It's their final attempts to be able to get away with it. And then in

00:14:25.440 March of 2024, the UK High Court requested further assurances from US authorities, which they could

00:14:32.880 have given. They could have said, listen, we'll put these measures into effect that will guarantee that

00:14:39.760 he has fair treatment. But they didn't do that, which is interesting. That seems like a choice by my mind

00:14:45.760 for them not to do this. So by May of 2024, a UK judge allowed a new appeal on free speech grounds,

00:14:53.120 and that his citizenship of Australia complicates the jurisdictional authority of the United States'

00:14:59.440 attempts to prosecute him. And then in June, you know, in the start of this month, the US Justice

00:15:04.800 Department proposed a deal which allowed Assange to walk free in exchange for a guilty plea on the

00:15:10.800 Espionage Act charge. So yesterday, the 25th of June, he took an Australian private jet because he's not

00:15:19.840 allowed to fly commercially because of his alleged crimes to Saipan, which is the capital of the

00:15:27.120 Northern Mariana Islands, which is technically a US territory, but not mainland, you know, United States,

00:15:34.640 of course, because he feared retribution from the authorities. And that is where he pled guilty to one

00:15:41.520 charge of breaching the Espionage Act rather than the original 18 charges he faced. Because of the time he

00:15:47.680 spent in Belmarsh Prison and the harsh treatment he faced, which is difficult to justify because he

00:15:52.640 was a journalist, he wasn't, you know, a physical danger to people as many of the denizens of Belmarsh

00:16:00.800 Prison normally are, they said that he will not face any jail time. And after he pleads guilty,

00:16:08.640 he can be a free man. So he flew on to Canberra, the capital of Australia, and met his family,

00:16:14.480 and for the first time in a long time, I imagine, and is supposedly able to live his life again.

00:16:21.280 But this isn't necessarily the victory that it looks like because the condition of him being free

00:16:27.680 was still that he had to plead guilty of reporting on the United States, breaking laws, you know,

00:16:34.640 killing innocent people, killing journalists. And so this isn't necessarily the victory that it looks

00:16:40.640 like because there are conditions to his freedom. And he's still looking to get pardoned as well.

00:16:47.600 And here's WikiLeaks posting about him touching down in Australia and it's, you know, freedom

00:16:54.080 flight and all that sort of stuff. But I don't think it's quite as positive as that. So let's have a

00:17:00.400 quick look at this sexual assault case. Ever so briefly, The Telegraph did an article about the book that

00:17:06.320 Anna Arden wrote. One of the accusers, there were two. And I'm just going to read a little bit from

00:17:10.800 this because I'm going to read it directly, but one, because I don't want to be victim of, you know,

00:17:15.680 a libel lawsuit, not alleging anything, but this is what it says. The book adds details to the

00:17:20.160 accusations that led prosecutors to arrest Mr. Assange in absentia, following accusations of

00:17:25.440 unlawful coercion and sexual harassment that Assange held her down roughly after they agreed to have

00:17:30.320 consensual sex and then deliberately sabotaged a condom so he could ejaculate into her. When she

00:17:35.840 first met him in her flat, Mr. Assange greets her holding onto one of her bras. I've been looking

00:17:40.160 through your underwear drawer, he says. I saw the size of this and thought this is a woman

00:17:44.080 I'd like to meet. And if this is true, of course, this is pretty creepy, immoral behavior,

00:17:50.880 in my opinion. But it carries on to say, in these days, in the days he stayed there, sorry,

00:17:56.480 he never showers. So by the last day, the flat smells strongly of unwashed body,

00:18:00.400 of dried in sweat, and there are turds floating in the toilet in this lady's flat. But apparently,

00:18:07.440 after this event went on, she went to a party with him and tweeted about how much of a nice time she's

00:18:13.920 having. This is my point of confusion. If he really is that disgusting, and there seems to be

00:18:22.240 corroborating accounts suggesting that he doesn't shower, why would you consensually have sex with him?

00:18:28.720 Well, funnily enough, that's the next part of this article. Part of what makes Miss Arden's

00:18:34.240 account interesting is that she includes new details that some say may give ammunition to

00:18:38.080 her doubters. She was already considering sleeping with Mr. Assange even before he made a clumsy pass,

00:18:42.960 she says. Partly because of his celebrity, and partly to irritate her ex. And then this is a direct

00:18:48.400 quote, it might be a pretty fun thing, and no big deal to score with Julian Assange, she remembers thinking.

00:18:54.480 So she's thinking that after he's come with her underwear, saying that he's rooted through her

00:19:04.400 underwear. Before. Before. Before. And that was just the part that sealed the deal. Oh, okay.

00:19:09.840 Apparently so. Apparently so. I have questions. Also, I will say from this account, it doesn't follow to

00:19:17.680 me that simply because a man doesn't shower very often, that he wouldn't know to flush the toilet.

00:19:24.720 There's an element of taking it the extra mile there. But of course, that's a conjecture,

00:19:32.800 speculation, subjective opinion on my part. Of course, but there were accounts from the

00:19:37.200 Ecuadorian embassy that he was... Lacking in the personal hygiene department?

00:19:41.360 He was interested in preserving water supplies, let's just say that.

00:19:45.040 And after Josh's own heart.

00:19:47.360 Excuse me, I shower every day. But I think one of the key questions here is,

00:19:52.000 why did this happen now? Obviously, this has been going on since 2010. But why has it taken 14 years?

00:19:58.160 And why specifically now? So the more sort of perfunctory explanation would be the involvement

00:20:03.840 from the Australian Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese of the Labour Party. He played a key part.

00:20:08.800 And there were lots of Australians that were very central in pushing for his freedom. And

00:20:15.600 obviously, you know, give credit. And you know, he is a member of the Labour Party as well. So,

00:20:20.480 you know, it's rare for me to give credit. But yeah, fair play on this matter. I think I agree with them.

00:20:24.960 And lots of the Australian campaigners that also were involved. Also, that High Court decision in London,

00:20:31.600 which allowed Assange to appeal against being extradited to the US one final time,

00:20:35.920 that was very central. And I think it also matches prevailing public opinion that most people actually

00:20:43.440 supported his right to publish these documents and to expose these crimes. But from a more cynical

00:20:50.880 perspective, and me being a cynical man, the one that I agree with more, the US has demonstrated that

00:20:56.800 they can persecute journalists for publishing damaging information about them, because he's been

00:21:01.120 hounded since he published that in 2010. He's been having to live in an Ecuadorian embassy. He's

00:21:06.480 having to travel around the world. He had to spend time in solitary confinement in one of the harshest

00:21:11.600 prisons in Britain. These are not pleasant things. This will make journalists think twice before

00:21:16.160 publishing this sort of thing. And so they've already sort of achieved their aims already. And

00:21:22.000 there's also the fact that the information that Assange published, and what Assange says could

00:21:27.040 be regarded as damaging Biden's campaign. And in the run up to the November US election,

00:21:32.400 if they brought him to the US and tried him in the US, that would be running alongside the US

00:21:37.040 election. And therefore, that wouldn't look good for them, because he'll be saying lots of damaging

00:21:41.760 things about Democrats, and Biden, and the Clintons, and Obama, and all of those sorts of people.

00:21:47.920 The Trump camp for some time has said they will pardon Assange. So I understand that it was at

00:21:54.800 the Libertarian Convention that Trump decided to gatecrash and steal the show at, that he said he

00:21:59.760 would after he was questioned about it backstage by Tim Pool. But months before that, his son,

00:22:05.120 Don Jr., had committed, I believe it was on Tim's show as well, to pardoning Assange because he had

00:22:10.960 revealed such important and damning evidence about the Iraq war and the dubious actions of

00:22:18.720 the Clintons on the world stage. So I think that only benefits the Trump campaign. I think by taking

00:22:22.880 that off the table as something Trump can promise to do, the Biden administration thinks this is a

00:22:27.440 low-cost way of ensuring he doesn't get voters on this one issue.

00:22:30.800 Mm-hmm. And was it either you or Dan that said one of the terms of his, you know...

00:22:38.400 Plea deal?

00:22:38.880 Plea deal, that's the one, was that he takes down the Clinton emails.

00:22:42.400 That has been suggested. So I've seen screenshots circulating this morning. I remember it being

00:22:48.160 reclipped by aggregate account and wokeness that on the WikiLeaks site, I think lots of the Clinton

00:22:54.960 emails are only accessible now via the archive. I think that many of the files have been removed,

00:23:01.200 and so there has been suggestion, not confirmation, suggestion, that part of the plea deal was to

00:23:06.080 remove certain files from WikiLeaks.

00:23:07.840 Yeah, so it is too early yet to be able to know for sure whether that has actually happened.

00:23:13.120 So I don't want to, you know, give you misinformation and all that stuff. I hate that word now,

00:23:17.680 by the way, it's been ruined. But there are some interesting things that are still present on there.

00:23:22.560 So this is a screenshot from this. Oh, if I can move that out of the way. But yes,

00:23:29.440 WikiLeaks does run on donations. But this is an exchange from the 1st of February 2008,

00:23:36.720 titled NET means NET, Russian's NATO enlargement red lines. And it's talking about

00:23:42.320 something that Nigel Farage in the UK was talking about recently, actually,

00:23:45.840 and got in a lot of trouble for. So this is very interesting. So it says, Ukraine and Georgia's

00:23:51.760 NATO aspirations not only touch a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about

00:23:56.000 the consequences for stability in the region. Not only does Russia perceive encirclement and

00:24:00.160 efforts to undermine Russia's influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and

00:24:04.960 uncontrolled consequences, which would seriously affect Russian security interests. Experts tell us

00:24:09.680 that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership with

00:24:14.320 much of the ethnic Russian community against membership could lead to a major split involving

00:24:18.960 violence or at worst civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene,

00:24:24.640 a decision Russia does not want to have to face. So that's interesting in and of itself. But what's

00:24:30.720 more interesting is who it came from. So this came from the now current director of the CIA, William J. Burns,

00:24:40.320 who then was the US ambassador to Russia. So that suggests that actually the US has been aware that

00:24:48.640 this was a fault line since at least 2008. Well, one of the ones that Farage has been referring to

00:24:55.200 and lots of critics of the Ukraine war was the conversation between Mikhail Gorbachev and the then

00:25:00.240 Secretary of State of the United States in 1994, when he said, we won't move one inch further to the

00:25:04.400 Russian border. And I believe before the end of his life, Gorbachev then said, well, this isn't on

00:25:09.440 record. There was no such conversation. Whereas the actual Secretary of State himself has said it.

00:25:13.840 And so it seems to be this, the 1994 promise in the Russian mind that America through the expansion of

00:25:23.120 EU and NATO membership has reneged on that commitment. And therefore, this is the justification that

00:25:28.000 Putin and the like are giving for waging war in Ukraine.

00:25:31.120 Yes. And these sorts of things being released to the public seems to back up this sort of

00:25:37.120 assertion, doesn't it? Which lots of people have been getting in trouble for in the Western world,

00:25:40.880 but actually does seem to be true based on these communications, which have been confirmed as

00:25:45.760 genuine. So now I've sort of laid it out all out on the table. What do you guys think of the whole

00:25:51.760 case, the whole scenario? Have you got any particular thoughts about the persecution of Assange? You

00:25:57.920 know, should we be defending him? Did he do good work? That sort of thing.

00:26:02.240 I'm happy to have this information be more transparent, considering I think the Iraq and

00:26:06.960 Afghanistan and like wars were utterly illegitimate and very shady. I think this isn't all the skeletons

00:26:13.440 in the Clinton's closet, especially with their affiliation with Jeffrey Epstein. I also would be

00:26:18.880 interested to see what's going to happen with Edward Snowden, because obviously he's tied up in all

00:26:21.760 this. The complicated part for regime optics is if they pardon Assange, but not Snowden,

00:26:27.760 because Snowden's currently in Russia, then it looks like they have an unwavering commitment to

00:26:32.560 this kind of transparency. And I think even the Trump camp is going to get tripped up on that one.

00:26:36.320 So I think that will be a trip why they have to negotiate in the next few years.

00:26:40.480 Well, you know me, I believe that we're ruled and I believe the evidence shows that we're ruled by

00:26:45.840 an international criminal cabal and anything that hurts them or makes them sweat a little

00:26:50.720 bit is a positive as far as I'm concerned. What happened to Assange is not something I'd really

00:26:55.840 looked into. So I'm very glad that you went through the case and what happened to him.

00:27:00.000 I think it's terrible. And I think the persecution, while understandable from a defensive perspective,

00:27:06.400 was awful, unnecessary. But for what it was trying to do, it sent the message. And while I'm very,

00:27:12.320 very glad that he's now free, obviously what he went through is going to be sticking in the back

00:27:16.560 of any journalist's mind who has integrity when they go to release anything that could put them

00:27:21.440 in hot water. Hear, hear. So I think that that is a very important summary of this. I think this is

00:27:28.160 going to actually set a sort of bar for prosecution of journalists, the Western world over. And it's

00:27:35.920 actually quite a worrying thing. Sure, he's free, but at what cost?

00:27:43.040 Right. Cracking on with the next part.

00:27:44.480 Yeah, sorry that went on so long.

00:27:45.760 Don't apologize. It was very informative. We enjoy having your company, Josh.

00:27:50.160 You've been here since the start and the audience enjoy watching you as well. Don't

00:27:52.720 swear.

00:27:53.040 You make it sound like he's the guy who showed up last to the barbecue and he's feeling

00:27:56.480 a bit awkward. He's there in the corner. No, Josh, we're grateful you're here. It's all right.

00:28:00.320 I bring the drinks to a barbecue. Well, I never want my friends to be apologetic for their presence.

00:28:06.400 So there you go. Anyway, speaking of people who aren't our friends. Well, I know that the media

00:28:11.440 is obviously discredited as being unbiased at this point. There's no such thing as objective

00:28:16.240 coverage. We're just more honest about our biases than the mainstream, but they really aren't doing a

00:28:20.720 very good job of hiding it, are they? If you're confused what I'm referring to on Thursday, this will

00:28:25.840 be the 27th of June, 2024. The United States will see its first 24 election presidential debate,

00:28:33.840 and this will be hosted by none other than CNN, the most infamously antagonistic outlet to President

00:28:39.120 Trump for the last nine years that he's been involved in presidential politics now. There's

00:28:44.720 a rundown here from the New York Times, which just provided an easy roundup, but the debate's hosted

00:28:49.840 in Atlanta. It's starting at 9pm Eastern Time, so that's 2am UK time for us here in England. So

00:28:56.400 we'll be watching that on Catch Up, probably somewhere on Rumble or the like, because CNN

00:29:00.720 has said that they'll be posting clips. So anything that looks particularly good for Trump, I don't

00:29:06.240 think they'll be clipping and promoting anywhere. And of course, they'll probably region lock it,

00:29:09.920 so we'll have to get it somewhere more reputable. What's quite interesting as well.

00:29:13.120 So if they're only going to be posting stuff that's good for Biden and not Trump,

00:29:16.080 surely they'll just not broadcast any of it. Well, yeah, you would think that. So what's

00:29:21.840 interesting as well is that Tim Pool via YouTube, YouTube via CNN, has received a warning saying that

00:29:28.320 CNN is threatening any social channels, so YouTube and the like, that provide commentary on the debate

00:29:34.480 stating they will not allow the use outside of CNN and obviously all of the other networks they're

00:29:39.120 allowing to concurrently run it for free. Presume commentary just means playing the video

00:29:43.040 clip and reacting to it. No. Just any talking about it. Yes. You're not allowed to do it live.

00:29:48.400 So what's happened here, and this is the reason I've brought this up for us as well, because of

00:29:52.160 course we've got totally bogus YouTube strikes before with complete ridiculous violations of their

00:29:58.400 arbitrary code of conduct. If you put up clips of you talking about the clips, it will probably be

00:30:05.920 taken down. Then you can contest it because talking about a presidential election is the epitome of

00:30:10.800 fair use, but you want to beware of a bogus strike. But if you're live streaming it live on YouTube,

00:30:15.760 they'll just take the stream down and there's no point contesting it because the stream will be

00:30:19.040 deleted. So just a warning to our content creator friends out there in case you're watching.

00:30:24.080 Now, the most darsely part about this debate, though, is that the two moderators are Jake Tappup

00:30:30.880 and Dana Bash. Now, if you're not familiar with them, they're two of CNN's prime time hosts,

00:30:35.360 and I've got some clips of them later on to show just how terrible of a job I'm predicting they're

00:30:39.840 going to do. But ahead of this, why would they need to run such damage control for Biden? As he

00:30:45.840 suggested, well, the opinion polls aren't looking excellent.

00:30:48.640 Let's recognize his comment for what it is.

00:30:50.720 It's a long-standing anti-Semitic trope that- CNN has heard something.

00:30:55.680 CNN's sabotaging us.

00:30:56.720 Oh, we're already going straight there, are we?

00:30:58.560 Yeah, well, there we go. Oh, no.

00:31:00.480 I think the Elgato decided to screw up. Spoilers.

00:31:02.160 But, um, how prophetic. Well, all right, here we go. So here are the general election polls according to

00:31:07.360 RealClearPolitics, and ah, ah, Trump is, Trump is trouncing Biden by at least a point in the polling averages.

00:31:16.320 Funny that, considering Biden was the most popular president of all time, including among

00:31:20.160 black Americans in the middle of Detroit, more so than Obama. Very strange. I suppose 2024 will

00:31:25.920 just be another safe and secure election. Anyway, so let's look at the Biden approval rating,

00:31:29.840 because I'm sure that that's just glowing. That might provide some insight into why Trump is

00:31:33.760 leading him. Ah, yeah, not, not, not great. I mean, his disapproval rating is currently

00:31:38.800 at 55.6%, and his approval rating is at 40.6%. So if the polls have been believed, Biden's going to

00:31:47.520 get a 1980s Reagan election-style spanking. Yeah. So might be a reason why CNN are anxious to run

00:31:57.280 interference. They've done a pre-debate write-up, and these are the issues that apparently everyone's

00:32:01.840 concerned about. So this is due to Pew Research. So, you know, sort of gold standard opinion polling.

00:32:08.880 Strengthening the economy is the chief concern of most voters. Defending against terrorism,

00:32:13.920 as you've already covered, the southern border being utterly porous and allowing over a million

00:32:17.200 people in every year. Turns out they're coming from, what is it, Tajikistan? Yes, that's right.

00:32:21.440 Yeah, where there's a lot of terrorism, turns out. Yeah, sort of, uh, Afghanistan, Tajikistan,

00:32:27.280 all of those countries in that area, um, are involved with ISIS-K in, in some measure.

00:32:33.520 And do you want to know something fun that Biden's doing to deal with immigration, which as we can see

00:32:38.500 is, uh, 57% on how many of these, uh, respondents said we want him to deal with immigration? Well, Biden's

00:32:44.640 decided that what he's going to do is allow undocumented spouses, undocumented spouses, uh, to not

00:32:51.020 have to worry about deportation. So presumably they'll just be given citizenship. So if you

00:32:55.580 manage to sneak over the border and get married to anyone, to an Elvis impersonator, maybe, um,

00:33:02.540 anyone, you're safe, you're all right. And that's predicting that's about 500,000 new Americans.

00:33:09.180 Passport bros voting for Biden en masse. I mean, again, lots of these issues are involved with

00:33:14.700 immigration and reducing the availability of, availability of illegal drugs. There's loads of

00:33:18.780 fentanyl being trafficked over the southern border, particularly by the Chinese who are now

00:33:21.820 inexplicably flying over to the southern border and smuggling themselves across or reducing crime,

00:33:26.300 for example, reducing healthcare costs, which is obviously a welfare burden.

00:33:29.260 Quite interesting that this is a very, you know, good list, if you will. If I had to sort of rank

00:33:35.420 the priorities that the US had to tackle with, this is actually quite a, a good ranking, isn't it?

00:33:41.220 Which is interesting for an opinion poll, particularly on CNN.

00:33:44.140 Well, it's, it's being hosted by CNN, but obviously it came from Pew.

00:33:47.660 Oh, okay. So it does seem to suggest though, that voters are actually quite aware of the

00:33:53.340 problems in America, which is important.

00:33:55.740 Well, hence the terrible approval ratings for Biden, the positive approval ratings for Trump.

00:33:59.660 The other interesting graphs they've got in this article, considering the economy is the top

00:34:03.500 concern, the Biden, uh, it's not really looking good when you look at, oh, I don't know,

00:34:07.980 inflation. So if you look there, Trump, it turns out in 2019, 2020 was actually a deflationary force.

00:34:16.060 Prices were coming down because cheap and available and abundant energy that the

00:34:20.380 Americas were exporting, uh, good employment, decent business rates and the like. And then after

00:34:26.860 2020, oh, look there, there's January 2021 when Biden is inaugurated and something happens where

00:34:33.180 it's skyrockets to 9% up there.

00:34:37.020 You have to tip my fedora ever so slightly and say that Trump reduced the rate of inflation,

00:34:41.900 but he didn't actually deflate it because it didn't go past zero.

00:34:44.780 Yes. We use a deflationary force on the rate of inflation, but yes, yes, valid point. But now

00:34:48.540 the new normal itself is set with Joe Biden at 3.3%. So if he's touting the fact that inflation's

00:34:54.700 come down, uh, it's now sort of flatlining at a steady rate of 3.3%. That doesn't mean prices are

00:34:59.820 going down. That means things are just increasing slower than they were in 2021 and 2022 when Biden

00:35:04.460 printed all of that money to pay for stimulus checks and the so-called inflation reduction act.

00:35:08.460 Just to confirm, the CPI doesn't take into account food, does it?

00:35:13.500 I don't know about the United States. In this country, I know it doesn't take into account

00:35:18.220 energy bills, house prices, and certain goods of food.

00:35:20.940 Oh, okay. Yeah. I was wondering if it's the same in America then.

00:35:24.940 Their housing situation is slightly less worse, but it's worsening as well because of

00:35:29.180 illegal migration as well. And then the other interesting one that's in here is unemployment.

00:35:34.620 If you notice there, there's a massive spike that Biden obviously says Trump unemployment is

00:35:39.420 a record high. That's because of lockdowns. That's mainly because of Democrat states prolonging

00:35:45.660 their lockdowns for a very long time. But then as we can see, unemployment is actually ticking back

00:35:50.620 up and it's higher than it was during the Trump years. And now it's sitting at 4%.

00:35:54.700 It's almost like all of those damaging regulations to the economy, sabotaging America's energy

00:36:00.780 independence, importing millions of dependents, hasn't done great things for the job market.

00:36:06.220 And if people are voting for the economy, I don't think it's going to go too well for Biden.

00:36:11.420 So America at a pretty fateful crossroads. So let's think, CNN, are they going to conduct a

00:36:17.580 impartial, dignified debate? Or are they going to absolutely lose their minds whenever someone

00:36:24.460 suggests to the contrary? So this is Caroline Leavitt, who's a Trump spokeswoman. She went on CNN,

00:36:31.180 this was Monday, and Casey Hunt, who is the anchor here, invited her on to have a chat about what

00:36:38.540 Trump's going to say during the debate. And the conversation lasted all of about 90 seconds. I'm

00:36:44.060 just going to let this play out because you're not going to believe the level of blatant bias on

00:36:48.060 display.

00:36:48.460 They did themselves as professionals, as they have covered campaigns and interviewed candidates

00:36:53.580 from all sides of the aisle. I'll also say that if you talk to analysts of debates previous,

00:36:59.500 that if you're attacking the moderators, you're usually losing. So I really want to focus in on

00:37:04.860 what these two men are going to do and say when they stand on the stage. Now, we have a little bit of

00:37:11.100 what Donald Trump, your boss, has said in trying to set expectations for this debate. I want to play

00:37:16.940 some of a series of his comments, and then we'll talk about it. Watch.

00:37:20.540 Maybe I'm better off losing the debate. I'll make sure he says I'll lose the debate on purpose. Maybe

00:37:24.860 I'll do something like that. I assume he's going to be somebody that will be a worthy debater.

00:37:30.220 Should I be tough and nasty and just say you're the worst president in history? Or

00:37:34.620 should I be nice and calm and let him speak?

00:37:41.020 So he's basically saying there, well, will I let Joe Biden win? It does seem as though many

00:37:47.100 Republicans have set the bar very low in terms of arguing that Joe Biden is basically senile.

00:37:53.820 Now you have people like Doug Burgum coming out and saying, well, President Biden's very

00:37:57.740 accomplished, trying to set expectations in a different place. What do you expect from Joe Biden?

00:38:03.180 Well, first of all, it's to take someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump,

00:38:09.580 to see that Jake Tapper has consistently-

00:38:10.860 Ma'am, we're going to stop this interview if you're going to keep attacking my colleagues.

00:38:13.580 President Trump to Adolf Hilter.

00:38:14.540 Ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview if you continue to attack my colleagues.

00:38:18.860 I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for.

00:38:22.300 Yes.

00:38:22.700 If you are here to speak on his behalf, I'm willing to have this conversation.

00:38:27.260 I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past.

00:38:30.060 Okay. I'm sorry, guys. We're going to come back out to the panel. Caroline, thank you very much for

00:38:33.980 your time. You are welcome to come back at any point. She is welcome to come back and speak about

00:38:39.500 Donald Trump. And Donald Trump will have equal time to Joe Biden when they both join us now at next,

00:38:46.060 early, later this week in Atlanta for this debate. Our thanks to Caroline. John.

00:38:51.500 She looks like she's about to burst into tears. A show of great strength and confidence from her

00:38:56.620 right there. I mean, good God. Although I do agree that, yeah, the way to win the debate,

00:39:00.220 don't say a word and let Biden go off the cuff for an hour and a half.

00:39:03.980 Yeah. The more syllables he gets out, the faster his IV of stimulants runs out. And so he'll just

00:39:09.260 be saying badder-calf care for the first 30 minutes. It's going to be like a Norm Macdonald

00:39:13.740 stand up, isn't it? Like on a talk show where it's just going to be a great big long shaggy

00:39:18.220 dog story, as they're called. No one knows what's going on.

00:39:22.380 To be fair, do you reckon if you let Biden speak unmedicated, off the cuff, for long enough,

00:39:27.660 he would end up accidentally just spilling state secrets?

00:39:30.780 I think he'll revert back to sort of like 60s to 80s Joe Biden and saying exactly what

00:39:35.420 he thinks of corn pop. And that wouldn't be good for the black voting demographic,

00:39:38.940 let's be honest. But I think this was really interesting.

00:39:41.340 Oh, let it happen. That would be an event.

00:39:43.260 Yeah. Well, he already did say that if you don't vote for Joe Biden, you ain't black. So I think

00:39:46.940 he's sort of crossed that tripwire a little bit. I thought this was quite an interesting clip,

00:39:50.380 not just because we all know that these media institutions are horrifically biased and are

00:39:55.900 mouthpieces for the regime, the warmongering establishment that infects both parties,

00:40:00.540 as we've seen with the recent WikiLeaks case. But I thought this was really interesting because

00:40:04.460 she is so bad at her job, she's on the precipice of falling into tears. Because if anyone's sat in a

00:40:09.340 newsroom before, anytime, and I couldn't do broadcast TV for this reason, anytime you're a presenter,

00:40:14.700 you've got a little earpiece and it's actually back to the production booth. So you can, between

00:40:19.020 breaks, talk about what's next in the news bulletin, how long you've got until you're

00:40:22.460 introing the next show, et cetera. But sometimes overzealous producers who want a control over

00:40:27.820 what is said on the show will be shouting in your ear and telling you to hurry up and move on.

00:40:31.660 And I think she was getting a bollocking from the people who are working at the news desk saying,

00:40:37.260 shut this down quickly because we don't want to, ahead of the debate, be seen as horrifically

00:40:42.860 biased and tampering with the election. I think that she was buckling under pressure because she

00:40:47.420 was getting shouted at by some producer who was going, control the narrative quickly,

00:40:50.860 kick her off the air, et cetera. And it just makes it look even worse than it already needed to.

00:40:55.660 I think it's pretty embarrassing.

00:40:57.180 Now, so she decides to come out and...

00:41:00.220 Let's recognize this comment.

00:41:01.420 I was doing it again.

00:41:02.140 Something's happening. There's a ghost in the machine.

00:41:04.380 She desperately wants to speak about anti-Semitism.

00:41:08.460 It's like busting to the wall like the Kool-Aid man. So she decides to defend her conduct here and

00:41:12.380 she says, you come on my show, you respect my colleagues. Period. I don't care what side of

00:41:15.980 the aisle you stand on. Sure you don't. As my track record clearly shows. That's interesting.

00:41:22.540 You don't care about what side of the aisle you stand on. As your track record clearly shows.

00:41:27.260 Well, let's see her track record, shall we? There was a response to this, of course,

00:41:33.980 because this became a little bit of a scandal in the US political sphere. And the Politico got

00:41:39.820 a statement from both parties. In a statement to Politico, leave it, the Trump spokeswoman said

00:41:44.300 that the debate will be a 3v1 fight, of course. CNN cutting my microphone off for bringing up a

00:41:50.620 debate moderator's history of anti-Trump lies just proves our point that President Trump will not

00:41:54.380 be treated fairly in Thursday's debate. Yes, but yet President Trump is still willing to go into

00:41:58.140 this 3v1 fight to bring his winning message to the American people and he will win. CNN did their

00:42:02.940 boring retort saying that Bash and Tapper are well-respected veteran journalists and have

00:42:08.220 extensive experience moderating major political debates. There are no two people better equipped

00:42:13.260 to co-moderate a substantial and fact-based discussion. And we look forward to the debate on June

00:42:18.300 the 27th in Atlanta. CNN evaluates themselves, conclude, we're brilliant.

00:42:23.340 Yeah, quite. I did some evaluation of my own and I don't think they're quite brilliant. So again,

00:42:27.580 remember Casey Hunt's words, as my track record shows, she doesn't care what side of the aisle you

00:42:33.500 stand on. Unless you're Rand Paul, in which case she's kind of gleeful that a near-lethal attack was

00:42:40.940 done against you. Let's just play this old clip. New details today on the incident that left

00:42:45.500 Senator Rand Paul with six broken ribs. This might be one of my favorite stories, although of course we

00:42:50.220 don't. Clearly Senator Paul is still struggling. Paul's neighbor, Rene Boucher, is accused of

00:42:55.980 beating the senator and GQ reports that lawn care issues may well have been at the heart.

00:43:01.500 You can tell she immediately regretted saying that. She's like, oh, that slipped out.

00:43:07.020 The mask slipped. Absolutely. And then she couldn't even walk it back properly. Obviously,

00:43:10.860 we don't want to anyway. It's like the distancing itself was forced. The I'm really glad he was

00:43:17.340 harmed was organic. If you want the details on this story, it was pretty horrific actually. So

00:43:22.380 Rand Paul's neighbor, he took the man to court. He was awarded $375,000 in punitive damages,

00:43:28.860 $200,000 for pain and suffering and $7,834 for medical expenses after Rene Boucher, who's 60,

00:43:35.420 tackled Paul in November of 2017 over what he alleges was a dispute concerning Senator Paul's

00:43:41.420 lawnmower blowing leaves onto his grass. So that's a rational response.

00:43:44.780 He got into a debate with Rand Paul about property rights.

00:43:48.780 And decided to tackle him to the ground and break his ribs, yeah.

00:43:51.440 Yeah, well, he couldn't win legitimately, that's for sure.

00:43:54.180 No, no, like most of Rand Paul's Senate colleagues. Rand Paul responded,

00:43:57.900 we need to send a clear message that violence is not the answer. Anytime, anywhere, we can hold

00:44:02.300 different views, whether it's politics, religion, or day-to-day matters. Boucher himself said the

00:44:06.380 attack was not politically motivated. The court denied his appeal. This was the same attack Rand Paul

00:44:12.220 suffered that I believe is Nancy Pelosi's daughter celebrated in a tweet and then quickly deleted as

00:44:17.340 well. So if there's any doubt that the Democrat machine wishes harm on the patriotic populist

00:44:24.460 Republicans like Rand Paul or Donald Trump or Matt Gaetz, there shouldn't be because they would sooner

00:44:30.060 see you dead than happy. Just remember this bit. Now, it's not just Paul as well. This whole climate

00:44:34.300 of attacks has been inflicted on Paul's staff. And this is actually a story that's quite close to my

00:44:38.540 heart because the guy that ended up helping save him is one of my good friends, Chris, from university,

00:44:42.220 which is very, very strange. But Rand Paul's staff was nearly stabbed to death last year.

00:44:46.640 This is Phil Todd. He was stabbed outside a Mexican restaurant in March, 2023 by Glenn Neal,

00:44:52.300 who was arrested by police and charged with assault and a sentence to kill. Neal had just been let out

00:44:56.300 of prison one day prior to the stabbing. Neal was previously sentenced to 12 years and four months in

00:45:01.180 prison in 2011 for forcing a woman into prostitution and threatening to kidnap or injure a person.

00:45:06.300 Neal told officers he heard a voice telling him that someone was going to get him right before he

00:45:10.140 launched the attack, according to court documents obtained by the AP. The attacker is, as expected,

00:45:15.080 a New York Post euphemism. Now, of course, she, the Casey Hunt, didn't wish this attack on Phil,

00:45:22.720 but her station was celebrating the 2020 riots as a summer of love. As Chris Cuomo had said,

00:45:29.940 show me in the constitution where it said riots need to be peaceful. And so all of the defunding the

00:45:35.100 police and open prison policies that flowed thereon have let nutcases like this out on the street.

00:45:41.040 Not excellent, is it? It doesn't seem politically motivated, but it's still enabled by the kind

00:45:46.180 of politics spread by CNN. Well, I think the political motivation, like you're pointing out

00:45:50.560 there, is that you allow these incredibly lax laws to happen, basically with the hopes that the

00:45:56.940 people who are getting let out of prison eventually sow chaos, which will mainly affect your enemies,

00:46:01.900 because your enemies are law-abiding people who maybe aren't on the same rung of the social ladder

00:46:05.980 as you to live in gated communities where you can avoid all of this.

00:46:10.020 Exactly this. This is classic anarcho-tyranny, as I've covered on my show on the website with

00:46:13.980 excellent author Oral McIntyre and friend of the show. There's a quote here from Chris,

00:46:18.580 actually, who helped him out. And he said,

00:46:19.760 We were just suddenly lunged at by the guy who was hiding behind the wall, and he started

00:46:22.680 stabbing Todd. Out of nowhere, he didn't ask for anything, he didn't say anything, he just

00:46:25.960 started stabbing him. Phil's a close friend, an absolute champ, and he was able to run despite

00:46:29.720 being stabbed in the head, having a skull fracture, and brain bleeding, and a punctured

00:46:33.120 lung.

00:46:33.860 Bloody hell.

00:46:34.220 So it just shows the resilience of people working in Paul's office compared to their

00:46:38.700 wet Democrat counterpart. So Senator Paul, almost killed. Staffer, almost killed. Yet,

00:46:46.120 Casey Hunt seems to be celebrating that climate, or at least enabling it with her politics.

00:46:50.680 So what about the two moderators themselves? Okay, so Casey Hunt trying to run damage control

00:46:54.300 for this. She's got egg on her face. It could be possible that Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

00:46:58.180 are very impartial. They're going to give Trump a fair hearing. I mean, they're Pulitzer Prize-winning

00:47:03.000 journalists after all. I have my doubts, though, because as Jack Posobiec has compiled, here's

00:47:09.060 Jake Tapper's thoughts on President Trump.

00:47:11.260 The dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf Hitler is once again alive and well on a national political

00:47:17.740 stage. This time, of course, in the United States.

00:47:20.640 Donald Trump, a couple times over the weekend, referred to immigrants from South America, Africa,

00:47:26.780 and Asia. He did not mention Europe. South America, Africa, and Asia, as, quote,

00:47:31.600 poisoning the blood of our country, which, it's not hyperbole, that does very directly echo

00:47:36.900 Adolf Hitler's language before World War II. If you were to open up a copy of Hitler's Mein Kampf,

00:47:44.320 you would find the Nazi leader describing the mixing of non-Germans with Germans as

00:47:49.420 poisoning. There's really no other way to say it. Donald Trump's language mirrors this directly.

00:47:55.640 Yeah, I have my doubts that he's going to be super fair to Trump there. It's just, again...

00:48:03.960 When are those network broadcasts from? Is this from this...

00:48:08.400 2023.

00:48:09.260 Oh, 2023. But, okay, right. But there was four years of Trump presidency, and I don't...

00:48:17.340 Maybe the press hit it. Maybe CNN was on his side during that, but I don't remember any

00:48:21.380 grand Mexican genocides or anything. I also... He might have been just slow on constructing

00:48:26.120 the death camps. Maybe it's that. That's what the wall was supposed to be. An enormous

00:48:29.920 meat grinder as they try and get through. I don't remember the immigration crisis in

00:48:34.620 mid-century Germany, either. Where are the parallels, exactly? Aren't they different things?

00:48:39.660 Well, here's the parallels. Adolf Hitler say meanie words. Big bad Trump also say meanie words.

00:48:48.580 That's very profound. Thank you, Harry.

00:48:50.080 Therefore, exact same.

00:48:50.980 Yeah, I think there's a marginal difference in policy from expelling illegal immigrants

00:48:55.560 trying to break into the country and preventing any Jews from leaving the country because you

00:49:00.480 want to kill them. Also, slightly insulting again, and I don't like playing the intersectional

00:49:05.820 game, but it's just a nonsense accusation when Trump has Jewish grandchildren. It's just

00:49:11.240 so boring and tiresome.

00:49:13.060 I always forget that. That's really...

00:49:15.220 Is Jared Kushner his son-in-law? I think he was the most pro-Israel president of our

00:49:19.720 lifetimes. I mean, criticize him for that if you like.

00:49:22.000 Even Rabbi Shmuley loves Trump because of how pro-Israel he was, and Rabbi Shmuley is

00:49:27.640 an absolute nutjob. Please don't sue me.

00:49:31.120 He is very fond of accusing people of being like Adolf Hitler, yes. The fact that he hasn't

00:49:35.800 leveled that charge of Trump, I suppose, speaks volumes. But okay, maybe Dana Bash is going

00:49:40.520 to be fairer. Maybe there's a good cop, bad cop here. You certainly haven't been listening,

00:49:45.140 to a preface of what she's going to be saying throughout this podcast with all the tech

00:49:48.800 issues, but I'll just let her speak for herself.

00:49:50.220 For what it is. A longstanding anti-Semitic trope that the true allegiance for Jews is

00:49:56.320 to their religion rather than their country. It was used in Nazi Germany to justify the

00:50:01.020 arrests, persecutions, and mass killings, attempted extermination of the Jewish people.

00:50:06.380 And Trump has been pushing this trope for years.

00:50:08.420 He talks about the blood of America as being poisoned, echoing the same exact language

00:50:15.980 used in Nazi Germany.

00:50:19.920 That's the most coherent sentence Biden's ever given.

00:50:21.900 Do you remember that scene at the beginning of Austin Powers when he's unfrozen, and he

00:50:25.920 can't control the volume of his voice?

00:50:28.460 That's what Biden reminded me of.

00:50:29.840 I actually got that same thought, yeah.

00:50:32.680 I just, I'm so exhausted and bored by the constant invocation of Godwin's law. By Godwin

00:50:39.660 himself, he wrote an article in the Washington Post accusing Donald Trump of being like Adolf

00:50:44.140 Hitler. So it's just a farcical. Not everything is directly comparable to the mustache man from

00:50:50.120 the 1930s in Germany. There are remarkable differences. And actually, having a preference for your own

00:50:55.540 culture, country, countrymen, and history does not mean you're going to resurrect the guard

00:51:00.080 towers of Auschwitz. So the CNN debate is going to be an absolute farce. I look forward to the

00:51:04.600 clips. I look forward to Trump trouncing them again, like he did at the town hall. And I hope

00:51:08.960 this doesn't wash with the American people who are facing horrendous immigration and inflation rates.

00:51:15.020 So Tapper and Bash, by the way, sounds like a weird caveman double axe, doesn't it?

00:51:20.020 It sounds like a really bad body cop movie.

00:51:21.600 It does, yeah.

00:51:22.320 I just like the idea that anything that the Nazis ever did, automatically, if you do it,

00:51:28.520 you're also evil. Like, what, you want to build a motorway system? Nazi.

00:51:32.260 Do you know that they planted flowers in factories?

00:51:34.600 Same exact same thing.

00:51:36.100 Ah, great minds.

00:51:37.400 If you want affordable housing, you're literally Hitler. I mean, you could throw that one easily,

00:51:41.960 couldn't you?

00:51:42.500 You want to control inflation?

00:51:45.380 They're not going to trot that one out, are they?

00:51:47.400 No, no. Well, in that way, we can't compare them at all.

00:51:50.080 Anyway, so the left has been trying their hardest, their damnedest, to try and collect

00:51:56.240 some scalps recently. There's been a few doxings, there's been the hope-not-hate reports about

00:52:02.260 some of our own members, some of you, which mainly, just to be honest, used you sat there

00:52:07.500 while I said things as the ammunition to beat you.

00:52:10.460 They really couldn't smear me with much. I'm a pretty reasonable chap.

00:52:13.500 He sits next to Harry Robinson, evil, far-right fascist, while he says perfectly reasonable

00:52:19.360 things and doesn't disagree with him.

00:52:21.520 God forbid that we create voting blocs with their own national interest at heart. It's

00:52:25.600 not like we've been actively importing fifth columns into Britain to do that.

00:52:28.760 Racist. Well, now they've got you.

00:52:30.500 We'll wait until the second report comes out, Connor.

00:52:32.820 Fantastic. I'll print that out and wipe my arse with it as well.

00:52:35.040 Yeah, so there was also the recent doxing of Lomez, who turned out to just be a good normal

00:52:41.360 person, as most of the people on our side do, to be perfectly honest. And there's been

00:52:46.080 a recent one, which is Raw Egg Nationalist, friend of the show, who has actually written

00:52:50.440 for Islander Magazine, which again, if you've not got a copy pre-ordered yet, you're already

00:52:54.740 too late, you're far too homosexual for it, or maybe not homosexual enough. We're still

00:52:59.420 out on that one. We're trying to figure it out.

00:53:01.300 Weird marketing strategy, but okay.

00:53:06.760 Whichever floats your boat, really.

00:53:07.960 You like bombing? Buy our magazine.

00:53:09.560 You don't like bombing? Maybe also buy our magazine and see what you find in there.

00:53:15.100 Yeah, and there's been lots of this. You can go back and Raw Egg Nationalist is mentioned

00:53:20.080 in stuff like this from the SPLC, another reputable source of objective journalism and objective

00:53:26.300 information. NGOs the world over look to the SPLC and say, that's what we want to be.

00:53:31.300 Well, in this one, back in the day, 2022, white nationalist book publishers revealed

00:53:35.700 that is Antelope Hill. Since 2020, Antelope Hill, who have we worked with them?

00:53:41.380 I don't know.

00:53:42.220 I don't think so. I don't know.

00:53:43.360 Well, they published Miles' book. They published Raw Egg Nationalist book.

00:53:47.520 They also published books from people like Scott Howard, who did the Transgender Industrial

00:53:52.440 Complex, which is a really useful resource for anybody who wants to understand where the

00:53:57.020 money is going in that big industry. But they also, because there is a market for it,

00:54:02.400 because it's really difficult to find those books for anybody curious about learning about

00:54:05.940 history anywhere, they also are one of the few places, as they point out here, that publishes

00:54:10.960 books and tracts and speeches by Nazis and fascists.

00:54:15.600 So publishing that obviously means that you agree with everything that is said in it, which

00:54:22.100 is why Amazon is one of the greatest collectors of Nazi fiction ever, and why they are. Jeff

00:54:28.420 Bezos is clearly Hitler 2.0.

00:54:30.240 I was just about to say that. It's also worth mentioning, it's not the only thing they publish

00:54:33.700 as well. You know, they publish lots of things and zeroing in on one thing. It's the same as

00:54:39.120 Amazon, really. It's just like, oh, well, you've published Mein Kampf, Amazon. What's going on,

00:54:44.460 Bezos? Penguin Random House published Matt Goodwin, Jordan Peterson, and Communist Manifesto

00:54:50.060 all together. I'm sure that's a coherent. Yeah, they've just got a really complex ideology.

00:54:55.200 You just don't, you don't get it yet. But he's mentioned in here, they also mentioned

00:54:59.800 that, again, you can get Antelope Hill books using Amazon. So again, I guess Amazon is also

00:55:05.340 in on this neo-Nazi conspiracy that Antelope Hill is, they're like the tentacles, they've got

00:55:10.180 their claws everywhere across the world. They doxed the people behind this.

00:55:14.460 I can't say what the beliefs of these people are, whether they do agree with some of the

00:55:19.400 books or not that they publish. Interestingly, one in this article is described as calling

00:55:24.260 herself a tradcath. So I don't know if that exactly lines up with Adolf Hitler's belief

00:55:29.260 systems. No, not considering his treatment of the Catholic priests off the Reich Concordat.

00:55:33.960 I mean, that should be enough to put any patriotic Catholic off of wanting to LARP as a 1930s

00:55:38.200 German.

00:55:38.440 No, but of course, what the main thing is, is that they love to go about and they love

00:55:42.820 to track down anonymous people, anonymous individuals, anonymous businesses, because

00:55:47.940 of course, in some states in America, you don't have to give all of your information over if

00:55:51.740 you want to just be a book publisher, especially if the books that you're publishing go against

00:55:56.140 the political grain. But they just want to get your name out there so that preferably you

00:56:01.920 can be shunted from society.

00:56:04.680 Well, it's intimidation tactics, isn't it?

00:56:06.300 Or possibly hurt.

00:56:07.600 Of course.

00:56:08.460 They're just trying to disincentivise people sharing things that they don't like, because

00:56:13.400 it's not necessarily about the books they're actually naming. It's about the contemporary

00:56:17.040 politics ones that are being written, ultimately.

00:56:19.640 They also don't give their exact addresses, but they give the towns in which they live.

00:56:23.720 So it's like, oh, if you just prowl around on any given day in a local Antifa chapter,

00:56:26.980 you might just run into them and have a polite conversation about their publishing.

00:56:29.620 Also, here's a photograph of them as well. You know, it's these scummy tactics that they

00:56:35.180 always use, and then they try and hide behind some kind of veil of journalistic integrity.

00:56:40.520 No, no, no. As a seeker of truth, it was my job to try and ruin this person's life who

00:56:45.680 just wanted to publish a few books I disagree with. And again, Rorick Nationalist is mentioned

00:56:50.060 in here. There's a lot of soy raging going on about some appearances that he did, for instance,

00:56:56.300 in The Return of Masculinity, took a Carlson documentary that he did with Fox News, which,

00:57:01.960 to be fair, does include some very amusing images like this one. But to be fair, if you

00:57:06.160 look at this man, he is living his best life. Who are we to say no to this? To be fair, let's

00:57:11.340 be honest, right? If this guy had a rainbow flag painted on his chest, Rolling Stone would

00:57:18.240 be celebrating this guy. They'd be making murals of him. But it's the fact that he's saying,

00:57:22.920 hey, you can be a manly man, also tangible. This is me any time I post an absolute banger

00:57:28.600 and turn the notifications off and just leave it. Yeah, I'm surprised this isn't more of

00:57:32.760 a meme, to be honest. But you can feel the seething when they mention Rorick Nationalist's

00:57:38.300 involvement in this. Because, of course, Rorick Nationalist, he has some funny dietary advice

00:57:42.720 that I've never tried myself. But, you know, if you want to go and try, and if he wants

00:57:46.100 to advocate it, fair play, you've absolutely got the right to. Where they complain that, oh,

00:57:50.340 he complains about soy globalism. And apparently the solution is chugging a lot of raw eggs.

00:57:56.520 Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. Try it yourself. Better than drinking soy milk for your hormonal

00:58:00.580 balance if you're a man. Yeah. That's for sure. The End of Men provides insight into the kind

00:58:04.280 of online spaces and characters from which Carlson and his team are sourcing their grievance fodder.

00:58:08.820 Interestingly enough, as well, Carlson recently did an interview with Steve Saylor. So you can

00:58:13.740 tell that this is kind of where Carlson was ramping up for in Fox News. So it's a shame that

00:58:19.180 he couldn't do it with them. But to be fair, he's got probably a bigger platform now through

00:58:23.260 his Twitter videos and YouTube channel, doesn't he? One account stands out amongst the rest.

00:58:28.200 Rorick Nationalist, who describes the enemy as soy globalism, which seeks to control communities

00:58:33.040 by sickening them through food. Well, as you just referenced there, no lies detected.

00:58:39.600 Well, I mean, even the microplastics that are present in many of our foods eventually break

00:58:45.220 down and produce. Please don't remind me of the microplastics, Josh. That's been on my mind.

00:58:48.760 Produce oestrogen. I've been avoiding drinking plastic. It's filtered water. That's my life.

00:58:53.320 I've been doing this for ages. I don't drink tap water. No plastic underwear. Any hay fever

00:58:59.260 medication actually lowers your testosterone as well. That's something you released a while

00:59:02.520 ago. Oh, for God's sake. No. I took an antihistamine before this. I can tell your tits

00:59:08.920 are growing. Oh, shit. And as I mentioned, Lomez was doxxed recently as well. And Ren actually

00:59:17.120 had a sub stack about this. What's Lizzo doing? This is the least unattractive Guardian

00:59:22.500 journalist, according to Ren. And he mentions in here, one funny how our guys keep turning

00:59:27.920 out to be handsome, successful chads and our enemies who aren't forced to hide their

00:59:32.380 appearance or any other aspect of themselves are hideous, crepuscular goblins, isn't it?

00:59:37.860 But he also goes on to mention what the tactics are in this and how the Guardian article, which

00:59:44.560 went on to expose Lomez as being a normal person, how dare he, went through this incredible list

00:59:52.000 of all of the journalistic tactics. I went through court records. I went through all of these civil

00:59:56.720 council records to find him when Ren points out that probably what actually happened is

01:00:02.940 that you got some backdoor on some social media or company who gave you his email address or

01:00:07.660 something like that.

01:00:08.400 Uh, did you watch Lomez's episode with Oran McIntyre?

01:00:11.220 No, I didn't.

01:00:12.020 He has investigating whether or not it was someone like Saurabh Amari who leaked his identity after

01:00:19.000 he posted the infamous Longhouse article to First Things. Because apparently about a week

01:00:24.040 before this was posted, there were whispers around the First Things office of his identity.

01:00:28.320 Really? Well, that just goes to show how deep these people have, are on the inside. And also

01:00:34.480 again, how invested these people are in actually revealing their identities. And right off the

01:00:39.760 heels of that, we get this. From Hope Not Hate, Roar Egg Nationalist himself has been exposed.

01:00:46.900 Now, Ren himself has gone on to confirm some of the information in here. So I'm not going to

01:00:51.520 dance around his name or anything like that. So, um, if, so please understand, I'm not doing

01:00:57.620 this to disrespect him, but it is interesting, the response and what's going on here and the

01:01:02.560 information that's been revealed. So they're, uh, they're absolutely, uh, raging about the fact

01:01:08.680 that he's a far right bodybuilder who champions masculinity. They mentioned the, um, soy globalist

01:01:15.620 quote that he gave for Tucker Carlson. And they quote it in full where he says,

01:01:19.520 the enemy today is what I call soy globalism. The globalists want you to be fat, sick, depressed,

01:01:24.960 and isolated. The better to control you and milk you for as much economic value as they can before

01:01:29.360 they kill you. That's soy globalism in a nutshell. Now, Hope Not Hate have an incredible and big

01:01:36.220 wrinkly brained answer to this, a counter argument. Okay. You ready for it? But if everyone's fat,

01:01:43.120 ill, and depressed, they won't work as much and they won't make as much money for globalists

01:01:47.780 milking them for economic value. Pensions. That's, that's, um, that's untrue because

01:01:52.420 Hope Not Hate gets large amounts of subsidies from the home office. And having seen the employees

01:01:55.800 of Hope Not Hate, like Nick Lowell's or Matthew Collins, yeah, you are fat, dysgenic looking freaks.

01:02:00.420 Yeah. And then there's also the fact that goes unaddressed by Hope Not Hate that all

01:02:03.980 money in a fiat system like we live in is fake. Yeah.

01:02:08.160 All of our money is fake. All of it is a debt farm for central banks and all of the politicians

01:02:13.580 who support them. And when you've got things like potential universal incomes coming into

01:02:18.240 places like Scotland, well, yeah, if the money's fake and the purpose of putting it out is just

01:02:23.500 so that you can get it paid back to you in interest anyway, then circulating the money,

01:02:27.720 get people to stop working, give them money. So they'll keep buying your random shit that

01:02:31.520 you're selling them. Uh, yeah. If you're fat, depressed, gooning, low impulse control,

01:02:38.200 that's an even better farm. You're a model consumer, aren't you? Yeah, exactly. So that's

01:02:44.020 these people obviously don't really know how to contend with the arguments, which is why what

01:02:49.040 they do is they turn around and say, well, I'll just reveal your identity and get you beaten up

01:02:53.480 in the street instead. Potentially not saying that that's what they're actually doing. I don't

01:02:57.980 know if I would be held liable for that, but that certainly could be a result of revealing

01:03:02.580 somebody's identity. So it turns out that raw egg nationalist is a guy called Charles Cornish

01:03:08.200 Dale, a former academic in his mid thirties who studied history at Cambridge and Oxford and lives

01:03:13.360 with his mum in a small village in South Dorset. Now they say he lives with his mum. They don't

01:03:17.380 actually really confirm anything, but they say it appears like he lives at his childhood home.

01:03:21.980 A few things on that. Number one, the most common living arrangement per the house prices inflated

01:03:26.680 by mass migration for anyone 18 to 35 is still with their parents. So not shocking. Two,

01:03:31.760 he's a regime dissident. So it's actually hard to get the kind of sponsorship money that hope

01:03:35.560 not hate get from the conservative home office. And three, we also don't know any details about

01:03:40.200 his mum. She could be unwell. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I haven't, I haven't asked,

01:03:43.480 I've spoken to Ren this week because I said, trustworthy physiognomy, you're fine, bro. But I didn't pry

01:03:49.200 into his private life because I have some dignity, but if she is unwell, he could, we'll be caring

01:03:53.180 for her. You sick freaks. Yeah. There's a, there's a lot of points to be made about that. And they

01:03:57.880 also post this one picture of him, which I'll be getting back to because they point out here,

01:04:02.740 we could only find out one photo of Cornish Dale online taken in 2009. Excuse me. When an essay he

01:04:09.560 wrote for his undergraduate degree, got an honorable mention from the Royal Historical Society's History

01:04:13.420 Today Pride. So, I mean, that's pretty impressive that he was being recognized like that. And if he's

01:04:19.000 in his mid thirties, 15 years ago, maybe late teenager, maybe early twenties. So that's pretty

01:04:24.760 impressive for that kind of age to be being recognized in that way. It's also worth mentioning

01:04:29.120 as well, that when you're at university, you can't exactly have a bodybuilders diet, right?

01:04:34.100 You know, it's difficult to have food. It certainly was for me. You can be in shape and he doesn't

01:04:39.140 exactly look like, I mean, judging by his face back then, he doesn't look like he was out of shape

01:04:43.820 or anything. No, of course not. But by the time you're in your mid thirties, you've got a lot of

01:04:47.760 time to build on a lot of muscle by that point. Cause there's a, there's some criticisms of all of this

01:04:53.640 and some attacks on a roaring nationalist character, which has been going on from the

01:04:58.000 right, which we will be addressing in a moment, uh, which wants to say that he's a fraud and

01:05:03.540 that he's not actually a big muscly man. Also, he, he doesn't even have blonde hair and blue

01:05:08.280 eyes and pale, pale skin. So he's a fraud. Did you see him post physique? Yes, I did see him

01:05:13.080 post physique. He's in great shape. I mean, once again, he's advocating that you can live the

01:05:19.380 sort of lifestyle that can get you a natural physique of a natural bodybuilding physique

01:05:23.420 from the fifties. And it seems to be what he has. Uh, but anyway, they say at the bottom

01:05:27.760 of this article, hope, not hate decided to name Cornish Dale as the man behind the pseudonym

01:05:33.020 due to his growing reach and increasingly extreme rhetoric. Because as you can see here, he posts

01:05:39.080 memes saying, Hey, why don't we lock up prisoners? Hey, why don't we? Oh wait, no, there's,

01:05:46.260 there was this one as well, which was quite funny. You know, typical American white nationalist

01:05:51.660 Mexican. They're always Mexican. He reposted this because obviously he must be a Nazi, not

01:05:57.120 because this is always a hilarious thing to find. And also don't you understand? I love

01:06:03.540 those memes. He posts Jimmy Dore memes. I didn't realize this was Jimmy Dore. I didn't either

01:06:09.820 for a long time. I, it weirds me out that some guy at a petrol station must have spotted

01:06:16.000 Jimmy Dore filling up his car and took a photo. Smoking a cigarette. It looks like, it looks

01:06:23.300 like, uh, Lawrence Fox dresses Hunter Biden. He does look like the midpoint of an eighties

01:06:28.620 thriller film where you're being tracked down by the killer robot. He looks like John Connor.

01:06:33.360 There could be killer robots here, Harry. I hate killer robots. Yeah. He looks a bit

01:06:37.900 like Kyle Reese from the first Terminator picture, which is fair. You know, that's a compliment,

01:06:43.180 Jimmy. You can take that one, but they, they carry on saying anyone is free to create an

01:06:48.020 account anonymously on Twitter. And some will be able to reach as far into the mainstream

01:06:52.340 media as most named commentators as Cornish Dale has boasted. But, but while we grant you have

01:06:59.700 the right to do that, I, Nick Lowell's, I'm a screeching soy boy who disagrees with all of your

01:07:05.960 opinions and realize that I am not a masculine man. I'm a weak, pathetic potato man. And therefore

01:07:12.360 I must try to ruin your life. It's unacceptable to use that platform to incite hatred and violent

01:07:17.900 rhetoric, unless it's our hatred and our violent rhetoric against others. So, you know, typical

01:07:22.620 smear job, typical. Well, the thing is actually, it's not even really much of a smear job because

01:07:27.240 other than saying, OMG, he posts memes and he also publishes books that say, hey, why don't

01:07:34.620 you get into shape? They can't really do anything to make him sound like anything other than a

01:07:39.500 decent and intelligent bloke. Same with me. These smear, these smear pieces just don't land

01:07:43.660 anymore. It's pathetic. And there's, that's the interesting point is that there was a recent

01:07:47.540 article published by the Atlantic, the far right's new badge of honor. Extremist influencers

01:07:52.900 no longer need to preserve their anonymity at all costs, where they're complaining. They're

01:07:57.920 complaining that we keep doxing them. They keep turning out to be pretty handsome, normal

01:08:03.500 guys, often with families or family commitments, which are quite wholesome. Why can't we have

01:08:09.400 power over them anymore? And also they're realizing that the bigger these accounts are, so Raw

01:08:15.320 Egg Nationalist, I think has what, over 200,000 subscribers. By the point they reach that size,

01:08:21.060 if you reveal their identity, they actually already have enough clout to fall back on.

01:08:26.120 It doesn't have to ruin their lives. They've already got enough supporters that they'll go,

01:08:29.760 oh, okay, we know who you are now. Keep up the good work. And in fact, it can actually help to boost

01:08:35.240 their profile. So I think the left is probably going to start read, um, adjusting their tactics for

01:08:41.900 these larger accounts. But of course that doesn't stop doxing from being a very serious issue for

01:08:47.480 smaller profile people, who are much more vulnerable. It is worth mentioning that Hope

01:08:51.920 Not Hate's, um, faff about, um, the interview you did with Liz Truss, that just helped get more

01:08:58.700 attention to us. It didn't actually damage us in any way. And in fact, you know, it probably

01:09:04.640 helped make it the in thing in the news for a little while, didn't it? Well, the news actively

01:09:11.060 misrepresented it, as did multiple Labour candidates, because they were briefed incorrectly by Hope

01:09:14.440 Not Hate. So they should be apologizing, retracting for that. But in terms of actual revenue or people

01:09:20.700 having their curiosity peaked by just listening to what Liz said for herself, rather than reading

01:09:24.300 the Hope Not Hate write-up, yeah, no, it didn't damage that at all. It's now the most popular

01:09:27.560 video on the website. So thanks, Hope Not Hate, for paying a subscription. We know you're watching.

01:09:32.220 Get down the gym. You're hideous.

01:09:33.760 So either Hope Not Hate are actually our secret biggest supporters.

01:09:38.100 The marketing arm of Lotus East.com.

01:09:39.780 Follow the boosters. Or they're applying these tactics that used to work and realizing that

01:09:45.360 the funny thing is, they would have paid money to get behind the paywall to watch. So they

01:09:50.200 were, if they refer to us as hate, they are explicitly funding hate.

01:09:54.020 Well, it's a tax rebate because the Home Office keep giving them hundreds of thousands.

01:09:57.660 That's true, yeah.

01:09:58.600 Yeah. Now are we ready for the dumb stuff?

01:10:01.280 Yeah, go on.

01:10:01.760 Are we ready for the brain-melting, drool-inducing rubbish that's been going on as a result of this?

01:10:09.180 Is this all the groyp posting I've been seeing all over it?

01:10:11.600 Yeah, it's the groypers. It's the groypers. Now, I'm going to temper this first one by saying,

01:10:16.280 Keith Woods, I actually quite like. He's done some really great work when it comes to the

01:10:20.480 Irish nationalism, pointing out some of the stuff to do with Irish hate speech laws,

01:10:25.220 which you have used in the past when you've spoken about it.

01:10:27.920 And he also did a recent interview with Lauren Chen on her channel, which was quite interesting

01:10:33.680 as well. But this is stupid. This is stupid. Raw Egg Nationalist posted this picture confirming

01:10:39.780 his identity, because this is a picture that Raw Egg Nationalist posted of himself on his Twitter.

01:10:46.200 As you can see, he's grown quite a bit from the 15-year-old photo that they were using in

01:10:52.480 the Hope Not Hate article, this one here. So you can see, obviously, you know, pretty

01:10:57.540 normal looking young man there. Now, the meme war ages us all.

01:11:02.760 Yeah, the meme war does, but I think he's weathered it quite well. And he's also wearing baggy

01:11:07.600 clothes, which meant that a lot of people went, OMG, he's not actually ripped like he said

01:11:13.140 he was.

01:11:13.620 It's a bit rich coming from Hadith Woods, because he's got elbow physiognomy. Have you seen him?

01:11:19.500 Like, he's all sinew. He's all skin and bones.

01:11:23.080 Also, yeah, about the whole A-10 Aryan thing. Yeah, you cavort with Islamists just because

01:11:27.720 you have an obsession with Jews. You don't need to take that Hobson's choice, my friend.

01:11:31.640 It's pathetic.

01:11:32.720 But, I mean, the thing with this is that there's a certain level of dishonesty going into these

01:11:38.060 kinds of critiques, especially with that whole real A-10 Aryan men of spirit thing.

01:11:44.440 And also, there is the one criticism. This is the same guy who published modelling photos

01:11:48.340 of a transvestite in his Man's World magazine, by the way. Now, I'm not going to say that

01:11:51.860 that was entirely as Roy National says, but when he addressed it, he said that it was a

01:11:57.400 photo that was recommended to him by some assistant or somebody else, and he just went along with

01:12:02.340 it because he didn't know who was in the picture.

01:12:03.900 That transvestite in question hangs around the red scare scene, which is very popular in

01:12:08.600 New York. So, the kind of people that... It's a sort of nexus for the racist art

01:12:13.320 hoes and this sort of stuff. And so someone passed it along and didn't give him the correct

01:12:17.600 information. It ended up there. He's not trying to program you.

01:12:20.380 Yeah. But again, people have picked up on all of this and started posting this 15-year-old

01:12:25.940 photo of him, not acknowledging that it's a 15-year-old photo, superimposed over this

01:12:30.860 old tweet of his where he says, you will never be a real A-10 Aryan. And this was in response

01:12:34.940 to a tweet that was made where somebody pointed out that this woman with brown eyes had some

01:12:42.760 cosmetic surgery to take them really blue, so he posted a copypasta.

01:12:47.960 And the copypasta is making fun of the eye chart meme, which is not actually serious.

01:12:53.340 It's having fun with it, right? It's having fun with it. But now they're treating it like

01:12:58.240 he was pretending to be an A-10 Aryan all the time. And don't you understand, he might

01:13:04.600 actually... He might be Libyan. He's an immigrant from Libya. Reading comprehension might be a

01:13:11.220 skill that I understand that Mexicans on Mexican groipers haven't got around with yet.

01:13:16.920 I have a graphic design. I mean, bloody hell, that's awful looking.

01:13:20.580 What is being said here is that his mum grew up in Libya. She's not North African. Had to

01:13:26.380 leave when Gaddafi came to power. Now, the context for this is that his grandfather was

01:13:31.500 in the RAF stationed over there because Gaddafi kicked them all out, right? These people have

01:13:37.640 dishonestly said, well, he's obviously a Libyan immigrant then. Also Jewish. Also, he's just...

01:13:44.640 Was it you that made this comparison, first of all? It's like, Fuentes' fans, no matter what

01:13:50.240 you think of the man, act like Julius Stryker, the lowest IQ member of the Nazi upper brass.

01:13:56.380 It's really funny when you read accounts of, say, Nuremberg, and you read that Julius Stryker

01:14:01.580 was noting down in his personal diary the whole that. He was seething, looking at everybody

01:14:06.320 in the stands just going, this person must be Jewish, this person must be Jewish, this

01:14:09.920 must... He was wrong about every single one of them. All of the prosecutors, my prosecutor,

01:14:16.700 he must be Jewish, wrong. The judge must be Jewish, wrong. That's what these people act

01:14:21.960 like. And it's either because they think that Gaddafi expelled Jews, he also expelled the

01:14:27.160 Brits, or I saw the other one was that back in November, Ren said, hey, just because you

01:14:33.980 may not be a supporter of the Israeli government and Netanyahu's cabinet doesn't mean you have

01:14:38.780 to be a foaming at the mouth supporter of Hamas.

01:14:41.160 Hamas.

01:14:41.720 Yeah, you don't. Yeah, I don't have to take that.

01:14:43.240 These people took that very personally. Okay? And also, then there's just the fact that people

01:14:47.900 are saying, OMG, he's swarthy, so he must be foreign, right? Josh is our resident expert.

01:14:53.920 Yeah.

01:14:54.100 Yeah, I've had my genetics tested. I'm disproportionately British. The most foreign thing I have in me

01:15:02.460 is like Norwegian. I've got a little bit of German and a touch of French. Just very small

01:15:07.640 percentages. But the vast majority of it is British Isles, right?

01:15:13.240 And you're from Devon?

01:15:14.420 Yes.

01:15:14.840 His middle name, and I'm not saying that means he's from that part of the world, is Cornish.

01:15:18.940 So it might well be that he's just... He's named Cornish Dale.

01:15:22.500 Oh, right. He said my middle name is Cornish.

01:15:25.580 Yeah, so it might well be that he's from the same region as you are.

01:15:30.860 Also, this is a Scottish man. Scottish men can even look like this.

01:15:36.780 Tom Jones.

01:15:38.040 Average Welsh woman people thought was Mexican after watching Zorro. Understandable, but we

01:15:43.820 can just be very swarthy. My dad is actually really swarthy. I got my mother's complexion,

01:15:50.420 but my dad, when he tans, looks Indian.

01:15:52.640 So is my granddad, actually.

01:15:53.920 He's where I got my Welsh DNA from.

01:15:55.960 I've got a story to tell you.

01:15:56.960 Oh, yeah, go on.

01:15:57.980 So in year seven, my first year of secondary school, one of my old-time friends, who I'm

01:16:03.860 still friends with to this day, when he first met me, as we met in secondary school, I'd

01:16:08.980 been on holiday to Spain for two weeks, and I'd tan very well. And he genuinely thought

01:16:14.120 I was Indian. I've seen the Taliban Josh photo. Oh, yeah, I think I've seen that one as well.

01:16:21.200 Terrorist Josh is a real thing. Act nice, he may post it.

01:16:25.440 No chance.

01:16:26.460 And thankfully, the most interesting thing that came from this whole thing, here's Josh's

01:16:30.380 dad, I assume.

01:16:32.140 Spitting image, yeah.

01:16:33.740 Is that Tom Rousel survived the jive, put up a big post, a thread talking about dark British

01:16:39.140 people, because it's a thing that it seems that Americans don't really know, because

01:16:43.440 they just assume we're in Northwest Europe, that we all kind of look like me or you.

01:16:47.440 Americans just think in abstract racial categories, white, black, etc.

01:16:50.980 But there's a lot of diversity over here, ironically enough, before we invited the diversity over.

01:16:56.220 And you can see this from, here is Tom Jones, average Welshman. So if you're interested in

01:17:01.040 that, go check it out and give Roarig Nationalists some support, because whether or not he's trying

01:17:05.920 to make hay of all of this, it still must be a very stressful experience to have your

01:17:10.200 identity revealed when you don't want it to be. But at least it's not working quite as

01:17:14.120 well as they hoped it would.

01:17:15.460 And with that, video comments, please.

01:17:22.840 Please enjoy this picture of these bears canoeing while I share this completely random

01:17:27.180 and unnecessary piece of info. Apparently a day on Venus is longer than a year. It takes

01:17:32.720 243 Earth days for Venus to rotate, but only 224 days for it to complete a revolution around

01:17:39.440 the sun. I read that in a kid's space book and thought it was interesting.

01:17:46.440 They're on their way to a date with the feminist, I assume.

01:17:49.740 Yeah. I imagine it doesn't rotate as quickly because it's, does it not have as much mass?

01:17:56.400 I don't know.

01:17:56.960 Is it dense?

01:17:57.720 I don't know. We need a physicist here. I'm a psychologist. I can just tell you how it

01:18:00.980 makes me feel. It makes me feel confused.

01:18:03.440 I'm bad with astrology.

01:18:04.200 But no, I enjoyed that fact. Thank you.

01:18:06.620 Astronomy. Wait, astrology is the one with the stars.

01:18:08.360 It's difficult to convey what it was like growing up in the 1980s in the UK, particularly

01:18:12.960 how I could find out about the world through the media of the time. It seemed like there

01:18:16.760 was a permanent fog obscuring the world and limiting what could be defined as the truth.

01:18:21.460 I was never happy with portrayals of the Chernobyl accident then or since, as they always had

01:18:26.320 something that just didn't add up. Step forward to today and the younger generation are finally

01:18:31.080 dissipating that fog. YouTuber that Chernobyl guy has a masterful series of videos analysing

01:18:36.820 what went on and setting the record straight.

01:18:40.160 That sounds really interesting.

01:18:41.780 Yeah. If you could tell us, um, you know, sort of some basic notes on what deviates from

01:18:49.220 the common narrative. I've not actually looked into it. I've not even seen the, the 2019 series.

01:18:54.100 Is it, was it 2019? Yes, it was. At the time I found that really annoying because I'm watching

01:18:59.680 a show set in Russia, except they've all got really thick British accents. It was, I know it's

01:19:05.020 something you kind of have to work around and go with the show on, but I found that really

01:19:08.900 distracting. It's global default, isn't it? I just found it really weird looking at young

01:19:12.540 Alistair Stewart there, considering he's, uh, he's so old. He's got dementia now. Poor sod.

01:19:16.780 Anyway, onto the next one.

01:19:17.620 Hey guys, I have an idea for a video, but I need a lot of people chanting zero seats

01:19:27.060 to the tune of, uh, we will rock you by queen.

01:19:33.180 Oh no.

01:19:33.880 So do you think you'd get a whole lot of people to do that and send it up as video comments?

01:19:46.200 Should we, uh, do it now?

01:19:47.940 You could go on.

01:19:48.540 Well, you could, you could probably get it done with AI.

01:19:51.420 That's true.

01:19:53.040 Zero seats.

01:19:54.320 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:19:55.800 Stop, stop, stop, stop trying to make fetch happen.

01:19:58.680 Zero seats.

01:20:00.120 Zero seats.

01:20:01.620 Zero seats.

01:20:03.080 Zero seats.

01:20:04.200 That can give you something to work.

01:20:06.520 On with the next one.

01:20:08.160 A Gentleman's Observations of Swindon, Chapter 8.

01:20:10.660 The hill upon which Swindon now resides was quarried for Purbeck Stone since the Roman occupation,

01:20:14.280 a practice which we know continued under the Goddards and then until 1951, when the Ocas quarry

01:20:18.380 was closed, notified as a SSSI.

01:20:20.700 The growth of Swindon increased the quarrying efforts, and this in turn saw the implementation

01:20:24.160 of turnpikes on roads flowing in and out of Swindon between 1750 and 1770.

01:20:28.600 Additionally, the right to scrape and sweep the roads was auctioned to townspeople who

01:20:31.620 could sell what they cleaned, such as manure, for a profit.

01:20:34.160 This practice continued until at least 1846.

01:20:38.220 Well, I'm glad that the Lotus Caesars is upholding the tradition of selling shit out of Swindon.

01:20:43.640 That was quick.

01:20:44.580 Fair play.

01:20:45.200 Thank you.

01:20:45.660 Interesting as ever.

01:20:47.020 On with the next one.

01:20:48.480 Power.

01:20:49.160 One.

01:20:50.420 Power.

01:20:51.120 Two.

01:20:51.900 The power.

01:20:53.140 Ten.

01:20:54.160 And this goes on for a long time.

01:20:57.880 One.

01:20:58.720 The power.

01:20:59.580 Two.

01:21:00.680 The power.

01:21:01.920 Ten.

01:21:03.960 What do you feel?

01:21:05.400 I've never wanted a bear to come along so much.

01:21:19.700 Thank you for the inside track into Kathleen Kennedy's writer's room.

01:21:22.600 See, if you were to deal with a problem like that, like a normal person, a man, you would

01:21:27.100 just punch a hole in your wall and move on.

01:21:29.020 Drink a monster energy, yeah.

01:21:31.860 Alright, next one.

01:21:33.440 This is what happens when you sit in a forest and do shrooms.

01:21:36.400 We have working theories that various souls who have come before you have put on the table and

01:21:43.360 many of them think it has to do with the dead that are just clogging the astrals and shutting

01:21:49.040 off the escape routes and therefore the upward flow is shutting down, but other people think

01:21:56.680 other things and we don't know.

01:21:58.220 I think I've had that exact conversation with Rory in a smoking section of a bar at Conservative Party

01:22:05.540 Conference.

01:22:07.180 Well, you never know what they're passing around there.

01:22:09.100 Yeah, quite.

01:22:09.780 Except for STDs.

01:22:10.920 If you want to send me to investigate, I'm more than happy.

01:22:15.680 Would you be willing to have that happen on camera, Josh?

01:22:18.860 I would never want anybody to film me in that sort of state.

01:22:22.260 I don't know what they're doing.

01:22:23.340 It's like they're trying to pass a drain pipe behind them.

01:22:27.780 Dominic Samuels did that on a Channel 4 show because they took like a conservative and a

01:22:31.840 leftist out to the Netherlands to do shrooms together and then she took one and then she

01:22:35.820 started selling CBD gummies and became a Hare Krishna and just quit politics.

01:22:39.000 So you might not want to do it for your livelihood.

01:22:40.740 That's true.

01:22:41.480 Yeah, I think they were trying to keep the drop goblins away.

01:22:45.640 Are they from Zimbabwe?

01:22:47.120 Maybe.

01:22:47.480 Right, anyway, on with the comments.

01:22:50.260 They were Rhodesian, but they had to get sent back over him.

01:22:53.020 Kevin Fox.

01:22:53.980 So has Stelios been let back on X yet?

01:22:55.500 In 24 hours, X suspended Stelios, Dave Atherton and Visigrad.

01:22:59.020 Yeah, I think Dave Atherton.

01:23:00.460 Atherton is back.

01:23:01.240 Atherton and I think Visigrad is back.

01:23:03.200 I think Stelios was taken out as part of the bot purge.

01:23:05.740 I wonder if it's because...

01:23:06.720 Stelios isn't a bot just because he's Greek.

01:23:08.740 I wonder if it's the handle in the username.

01:23:10.940 They have a certain algorithm that says if you've got a first name, some numbers and then

01:23:14.860 some letters, it flags you as a bot.

01:23:16.540 Oh, is that Stelios' handle?

01:23:18.020 It's like Paniotu 90ST.

01:23:20.520 Oh, right.

01:23:20.980 That's because his name is like the Greek equivalent of John Smith, isn't it?

01:23:25.160 Paniotu's quite a common name in Greece, according to Stelios, because it's the same surname

01:23:29.120 that George Michael has, his actual birth surname.

01:23:32.220 Paniotu.

01:23:32.920 Didn't know that.

01:23:33.560 Fair play.

01:23:33.980 There we go.

01:23:35.260 So Stelios, don't know if and when.

01:23:36.300 So George Michael was Greek.

01:23:38.640 Yeah.

01:23:38.820 Explains a lot.

01:23:39.400 And gay.

01:23:40.800 But you repeat yourself.

01:23:41.700 The plot thickens.

01:23:42.800 Yeah.

01:23:43.140 No, we don't know what's happening with Stelios' account yet.

01:23:45.000 Obviously, we haven't got a line on Elon Musk.

01:23:46.500 Would that we were?

01:23:47.520 Hopefully, when they hit the switch and realise they've banned too many people who weren't

01:23:50.380 bots, he'll be brought back.

01:23:51.700 But we hope so.

01:23:53.160 North FC Zuma.

01:23:54.080 This is definitely the lads podcast lineup.

01:23:56.260 Lads, lads.

01:23:57.020 That's very true.

01:23:57.920 We should do this more often.

01:23:58.880 It's good fun.

01:24:00.300 It's just hectic scheduling everyone around here.

01:24:03.100 Joel Ballum.

01:24:03.640 Nothing to do with the podcast.

01:24:04.540 Just a good news story for once.

01:24:05.680 I'm a long-time fan.

01:24:06.460 I wish to announce the birth of my daughter, first born on Monday.

01:24:09.600 Congratulations, Mike.

01:24:10.360 Yeah, congratulations.

01:24:11.400 Victory is a demographic war, so.

01:24:13.220 Hard, but it's definitely worth it.

01:24:14.680 Wish you all the best.

01:24:15.760 Josh, your segment.

01:24:17.020 George Hap says, isn't it interesting that the way they took down Assange is with a fake

01:24:21.820 rape allegation, the easiest thing to weaponise against men?

01:24:24.760 I saw an interesting theory that his release is a sign of the diminishing influence of

01:24:28.860 the US on the world stage, which is possible.

01:24:31.060 We have to stipulate that it isn't necessarily a fake allegation, just in case the woman who

01:24:37.080 alleged it is very litigious.

01:24:39.040 We reserve judgement on that one.

01:24:41.540 Yeah, well, she did also say that Julian Assange is a very good man at the same time.

01:24:48.020 There are questions.

01:24:48.880 Yeah, it's weird.

01:24:50.180 Like, she's saying, he's a good person and very fun to be around, but he crossed my

01:24:53.120 boundaries.

01:24:53.500 So, she doesn't even seem that bent up about it, even by her own sort of words in her book.

01:24:59.940 But there is something to be made from it.

01:25:02.180 Potentially.

01:25:02.860 I would not allege anything, gentlemen.

01:25:04.740 Not very wise.

01:25:06.080 Bleach Demon says, the Assange situation is one where the transparency is more of a facade

01:25:11.360 to further entrench the power of the establishment.

01:25:14.360 I have a very difficult time not seeing Assange as an asset of anti-Western influences.

01:25:19.000 But I hate that proposition of any time you criticise the establishment government for doing horrible

01:25:25.760 things abroad, you're a Putin apologist, you're emboldening dictators, you're spreading

01:25:29.680 Russian propaganda.

01:25:30.340 It's like, no, actually our governments do equivalent things.

01:25:33.100 It doesn't mean I have to like that government.

01:25:34.720 It also means that the Clintons are, and the Obamas have indiscriminately murdered people

01:25:38.020 with drones.

01:25:38.320 I mean, I would argue that our governments are the greatest anti-Western forces in the

01:25:43.540 entire world.

01:25:44.820 So.

01:25:45.880 So, Kevin Fox says, it won't make the military any more careful in their behaviour, it will

01:25:49.560 just make the journalists and the public less likely to report issues, which is almost

01:25:53.440 certainly true.

01:25:54.400 Yes.

01:25:54.880 I also like that name.

01:25:56.140 Harry eating a KFC bargain bucket all by himself.

01:25:58.520 Like, what's his face from Brazil?

01:26:02.760 I've forgotten his name all of a sudden.

01:26:05.720 Bolsonaro.

01:26:08.540 Or perhaps George Lucas sat by himself eating KFC.

01:26:14.720 Too great.

01:26:15.860 Where did you, have you spotted me in public?

01:26:18.980 I'm not saying it's never happened.

01:26:20.440 Excellent point, Harry.

01:26:21.580 One small problem, I am inside your home.

01:26:23.980 Many such cases.

01:26:25.980 Anyway, on to your.

01:26:27.920 Yeah, can you scroll down slightly, Samson, just so I can read mine, please?

01:26:31.120 Oh, we've got some super chats.

01:26:32.060 Fantastic.

01:26:32.660 Five dollars from the Threadnought.

01:26:34.060 Our political opponent was viciously attacked, and this is one of my favourite things to have

01:26:36.680 ever happened.

01:26:37.460 An actual, literal fascist.

01:26:38.700 Well, yes.

01:26:39.720 Fascists had better dress sense.

01:26:42.400 True.

01:26:42.980 I mean, it's not just a domain that is select to fascists, though.

01:26:47.320 It's pretty much all.

01:26:49.100 Communists did it all the time.

01:26:51.160 Exactly.

01:26:51.960 It's anyone who doesn't believe that the sanctity of life is inviolable is happy to use violence

01:26:55.960 to achieve their political ends.

01:26:57.220 Violence against the innocent, anyway.

01:26:59.400 Lars Peter Simonson.

01:27:00.480 There was a time when Catholics couldn't hold certain positions in the UK due to suspicions

01:27:03.640 about their loyalty.

01:27:04.620 It is not specifically an anti-Semitic position.

01:27:07.260 Quite.

01:27:07.820 Those are still very much held.

01:27:10.420 I'm surprised they let us in the parliamentary undercroft to celebrate mass, to be honest,

01:27:13.340 because the last time someone was down there, there were a few gunpowder parals.

01:27:15.580 I tried to keep Conrad out of the office, but it didn't work, unfortunately.

01:27:19.400 I'm sorry.

01:27:20.980 Ten dollars again from Threadnought.

01:27:22.260 Global pandemic was the only thing to stop Trump last time, and they can't try that trick again.

01:27:25.260 So what next?

01:27:26.200 Nuclear war?

01:27:28.600 It could escalate in that time.

01:27:30.440 I doubt the timeline is going to be that compressed, but who knows.

01:27:36.200 I think the bet is that Trump's probably the better person to handle that situation anyway,

01:27:39.960 because at least he's stronger than Biden.

01:27:41.960 Baron von Warhawk.

01:27:42.760 If I was Trump in this debate, I wouldn't say much, and I certainly wouldn't interrupt

01:27:45.780 his opponent during this discussion.

01:27:47.100 This is because Biden's brain is so rotten that all I have to do is sit back and let

01:27:50.620 him make a fool of himself.

01:27:51.580 You don't have to create the best speech ever when your opponent...

01:27:54.740 Cramps himself on stage.

01:27:56.680 I was going to be polite and says dumps excrement, but fair point.

01:27:58.760 There you go.

01:27:59.300 Yes, true.

01:28:00.080 Or in front of the Pope, or in front of Camilla.

01:28:04.020 Journalists at the D-Day celebrations.

01:28:06.140 There's just a trail following him.

01:28:07.640 There is where he goes.

01:28:08.880 One more.

01:28:10.500 Crusader.

01:28:11.280 Presidential debate.

01:28:12.320 Pretty sure you should be inserting a few dozen air quotes around debate there, Connor,

01:28:15.560 given that one of the debaters has a habit of S-ing himself on stage and barely knows

01:28:19.800 who he is anymore.

01:28:21.700 Debate is dead.

01:28:22.480 The marketplace of ideas is bankrupt.

01:28:25.380 Chase them out of the temple like money changes.

01:28:27.460 Harry.

01:28:28.080 I'll read a few.

01:28:28.740 So Omar Rawad, Hope Not Hate not only projects onto their target, but also their audience.

01:28:33.080 They think everyone reading their content feels the same sense of revulsion when observing

01:28:36.720 normal behavior and characteristics as they do.

01:28:39.260 In fairness, you need serious brain rot or the spine of a politician to take anything

01:28:42.780 they say seriously.

01:28:44.040 Anyway.

01:28:44.940 Yeah.

01:28:45.840 Threadnought, again, for $2.

01:28:47.560 Colin just swore anyone have that on their bingo card.

01:28:50.280 I was very taken aback by that.

01:28:51.460 I'd do absolutely my best not to, but I couldn't think of another word at the time.

01:28:54.580 You absolutely do not.

01:28:55.780 On camera.

01:28:56.860 On camera.

01:28:58.120 In Minecraft.

01:28:59.100 Fury.

01:28:59.920 Unbroken record, by the way.

01:29:02.900 That's not true on Lads Hour.

01:29:03.880 A Lads Hour doesn't count because it's for the lads.

01:29:07.940 Fury Stan left-wing journos want right-wing influencers to be incels just as much as Tim

01:29:12.420 Poole wants VTubers to be men.

01:29:15.080 I don't know about the Tim Poole thing, to be honest.

01:29:16.800 I don't understand that.

01:29:17.680 And also the Screwtape Blazers, I don't know if this is a joke or not, says,

01:29:20.920 Roarig Nationalist is clearly a mole.

01:29:22.500 His profile background is an image from Dinotopia, a children's book of pure boomer communist

01:29:26.780 drivel.

01:29:27.540 Open eyes, boys.

01:29:28.380 I think this might be schizopost level.

01:29:30.720 Because, again, having spoken to Wren, guys, you've got to forget.

01:29:35.260 I thought he'd profile pictures an actual 1950s bodybuilder.

01:29:38.320 Yeah.

01:29:38.600 Also, sometimes when people go, oh, do you not realize this person's connected, this

01:29:41.900 person's connected?

01:29:42.200 It's like, you could, you do know we know some of these people.

01:29:46.100 Yes.

01:29:46.300 You do know we've spoken to them.

01:29:47.800 I've spoken to Wren.

01:29:48.680 He's the best guy.

01:29:49.340 Yeah.

01:29:49.520 Or it's any time that people, so Carl and I are going to NatCon US and like, oh, do

01:29:52.740 you not understand?

01:29:53.340 It's funded by this think tank, this think tank.

01:29:54.740 It's like, yeah, but I know the organizers and I know what they think.

01:29:58.320 And so, we're not being duped by containment.

01:30:02.460 We actually know people in this sphere.

01:30:04.080 We're not that stupid.

01:30:04.980 So, you know, just entrust that we know what we're talking about sometimes.

01:30:08.340 That's all.

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #945

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