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00:00:58.040 it's a tuesday and this is episode 949 and i'm joined today by beau and dan hello the man

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00:02:38.440 it is absolutely horrific it is so horrific that i couldn't believe what i was reading

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00:04:07.720 50 off gold tier he says exactly now let's go to our topic so basically a woman in germany

00:04:19.620 has been sentenced to prison she spent eight nine days to prison for offending a sexual offender

00:04:28.220 and this raises several questions whether countries in the west have their priorities

00:04:34.080 set straight or if they have if they their list of priorities is actually the correct one so

00:04:42.700 i i'm warning you this is going to be a very disturbing case so it says here the woman has now received

00:04:49.300 more jail time than eight of the nine men convicted for the gang rape we have here this article from

00:04:56.900 the publica and it says woman convicted of offending migrant gang rapists receives longer prison

00:05:07.360 sentence than the rapists that was published in june the 23rd of this year so just to clarify

00:05:16.400 yep some men committed a rape yeah and almost all of them didn't go to jail only one of them did

00:05:23.420 the other eight didn't yes so most of them didn't go to jail but the woman who insulted the rapists 1.00

00:05:30.440 she does go to jail yes and she was convicted for spending jail time of eight nine days on the 1.00

00:05:40.080 grounds of a defamation law we will get a bit into this but what happened so basically in hamburg there

00:05:48.020 is a park called stud park and uh during the covid lockdown years many people met in that park it

00:05:57.120 became sort of a hub now one night in 2020 there was a terrible incident because there was a 14 to 15

00:06:05.640 year old girl that was there with her friends and at some point there was a police raid on the

00:06:11.780 on the in the context of fighting people who were violating the social distancing rules and when she was

00:06:20.780 alone and trying to flee the police so she wouldn't be fined for breaking social distancing rules or

00:06:28.840 something she was repeatedly attacked by many men and uh first there was a group of four predators that

00:06:39.360 did did that attacked her uh they took her phone she couldn't call anyone for help then there were two

00:06:46.460 further men who attacked her and assaulted her and then there were were rumors of some videos that

00:06:55.300 were taken and circulated in social media and informing other offenders potential offenders of her

00:07:04.040 whereabouts and then there were three more people who took advantage of her at some point she left that

00:07:12.740 place and she ran and she came across people who recognized that she was in a very traumatized state just on a

00:07:18.580 meta point we really shouldn't be importing people from places where if you come across a group of your countrymen

00:07:24.580 doing something like that that you join in rather than stopping them i mean it's inconceivable that

00:07:30.640 somebody from you know britain or america or greece or something would would come across

00:07:35.380 a group of their countrymen doing something like that and and not stop them as opposed to join in

00:07:41.080 yes and and yet this is normal amongst these groups well i thought all cultures were equal are they are they

00:07:48.940 not well not okay not the bad ones not the you know the so 11 men were uh charged but uh two of those were

00:08:00.860 set free because there was no dna evidence but with respect to the nine out of these 11 men there was dna

00:08:08.940 and uh they were charged they were basically charged with suspended sentences so eight out of nine

00:08:21.740 didn't do jail time at all so their social media or that person's social media was circulated outside was

00:08:34.060 published and people were absolutely outraged and as this article says here the case caused outrage

00:08:43.820 in germany both for the brutality of the sexual offense itself and the lenient sentences given to the

00:08:50.940 to the rapists as a result one of the men had his identity and phone number circulated

00:08:56.700 on snapchat angered by the news of the case a 20 year old woman from hamburg from hamburg messaged the

00:09:04.300 number through whatsapp the unnamed woman called him a open quote dishonorable dishonorable racist pig

00:09:12.460 close quote and yeah right yeah dishonorable rape rapist pig which is she also uh asked him aren't you 0.67

00:09:21.020 ashamed when you look in the mirror the targeted rapist then reported the woman to the police and

00:09:27.980 she was charged with sending him insulting messages and the woman has now been convicted and sentenced to

00:09:34.380 a weekend in prison for her remarks meaning that she will have spent more time in jail than eight out of

00:09:41.100 the nine rapists in court the woman apologized for her remarks i suspect under duress that under duress yeah

00:09:50.620 saying she acted out of a reflex a knee-jerk reaction upon hearing the sickening details of the case

00:09:58.140 i mean i mean this is sickening on so many levels first of all germany imports millions of these people 1.00

00:10:04.540 and then they don't police them when they commit rapes they don't jail them when they commit rapes and then

00:10:09.500 they punish the population for getting upset about it i mean the levels of betrayal going on here you've got to

00:10:15.880 think about all those millions of german ancestors in heaven looking down utterly ashamed of what their

00:10:22.840 country has become i just think that any person with just common sense let's say and common sense is

00:10:32.200 no doubt under attack these days would say that the kind of punishment or kind of reaction

00:10:42.440 to the people who committed that sexual offense is just

00:10:49.160 very relaxed to put it this way and also the kind of reaction against that woman is excessive and this

00:11:01.400 generates several questions whether germany and other western nations who act on such principles

00:11:08.920 actually have a good value system i think they don't we have been saying for so long that they do not

00:11:21.240 but i think that cases like these are just absolutely appalling i just it's i just can't believe what i'm

00:11:30.120 reading but and i will say this i just uh started looking at this piece of news and i found other

00:11:39.400 newspapers talking about this because i i couldn't believe that this would actually happen

00:11:44.520 because i because i saw this and i reacted to it as well the first time i saw this i thought no that is

00:11:49.800 so absurd it cannot possibly even germany cannot do this and then you look into it and he's like okay

00:11:55.160 they know that that is actually what they did yeah germany is set i mean i know they're going after

00:12:01.480 those kids for singing auslander raus but the but i mean surely the german people just can't take this

00:12:08.440 forever surely there's going to be one hell of a snapback coming and it's not even really a case of

00:12:15.480 if someone was offended or not and if that crosses line no it's what she's done what she's done there

00:12:20.920 is a statement of fact called him a dishonorable rapist pig um that's that's the it's terror is

00:12:27.800 terrorizing the german population so you must accept this and take more of it and but she hasn't said

00:12:34.440 it's just a statement of fact though yes is it so again it goes back to sort of the 1984 thing where

00:12:41.080 a statement of truth becomes a crime to state facts or reality or truth and i just go back to my

00:12:48.920 point about all of those sort of german ancestors looking down i mean how would any previous german

00:12:54.760 popular you know a cohort of generation from from years gone past dealt with this they would just kill

00:13:00.200 them i i i think i i think that uh the very relaxed reaction towards uh eight of these nine uh

00:13:10.440 rapists is just insane and it's very maddening and angering and i'm i'm really

00:13:18.680 careful with how i'm putting it well you talk about generations gone by in tacitus's germania

00:13:26.120 talk about sex criminals are lashed to a hurdle or a bit of wood and just pressed into a bog

00:13:32.760 face down based yes all sex all sex criminals that's the that's the punishment according to

00:13:38.440 tacitus and when what happens as a result you get fewer sex criminals you know it bloody works

00:13:43.640 works well i don't know whether we should go back to these times but yes what we can say here is

00:13:52.360 that five of the men were in possession of german passports while their remainder were not citizens

00:13:58.360 of germany and among those charged nonware of german heritage which means nine out of nine the rapists 0.59

00:14:06.520 were identified as a pole an egyptian a libyan a kuwaiti an iranian an armenian an afghan a syrian

00:14:13.640 and a montenegrin for helson yes very diverse that yeah each one of them more or less or every single

00:14:20.520 one of them was of a different nationality yeah or a different country of origin let's say if you put

00:14:25.960 them all together you'd have a toy campaign video well diversity is not a strength necessarily

00:14:33.480 speaking in this case it is an absolute weakness for for western nations so with the exception of

00:14:41.480 the poll what all those countries have in common is there any pattern we'd have to notice any sort

00:14:46.760 of pattern there because she's the other thing she said is when you look in the mirror aren't you

00:14:50.280 ashamed of yourself no probably almost certainly not no because the they've been they've been allowed

00:14:56.120 to yeah their holy book says again can you imagine what's going on that she's some sort of

00:15:00.680 whore for not covering up or being out after dark without being accompanied and can you imagine

00:15:04.520 what's going through their head they're not ashamed they must be thinking to themselves

00:15:08.520 we got away with this i mean what what i mean is what what is their behavior going to be in the future

00:15:14.680 obviously they're going to do more and obviously everybody who hears about this case who's of that

00:15:19.160 mindset is going to be like well there's there's literally no reason why we shouldn't behave like this

00:15:23.240 yeah so some of them showed no signs of remorse but basically according to the article none of them

00:15:32.360 showed signs of remorse and at least one of them will have fell asleep during the proceedings

00:15:40.440 eight out of the nine men were convicted and worked free with probation and spent no time in prison at

00:15:47.960 all the ninth was sentenced to two years and nine months in prison without parole

00:15:54.600 so the one that went to jail did how long uh two went to jail for two years and nine months

00:16:01.320 or at least that is the sentence for violent rape you get two years and nine months just

00:16:08.840 nuts god but authorities in hamburg are reportedly investigating 140 people for offenses relating to the

00:16:18.200 issue of insult threats or other detriment towards the stad park predators christ when when germany snaps

00:16:26.600 back from this is going to be something to behold and here we have yet another article that talks about

00:16:35.320 there being no repentance in the in the proceedings okay because it comes this is that this is the thing

00:16:42.920 this is what we they don't want anyone to actually talk about is why is that though yeah because that

00:16:48.920 girl in their eyes is a kaffir a non-believer a non-muslim so subhuman on some level yeah the fact 1.00

00:16:54.840 that she's out after dark without being without being modestly covered or without the being accompanied

00:17:00.200 by a man then she's fair game yeah you're not really and and what this is going to get to i don't know

00:17:08.040 if you saw that thing on twitter the other day but it was from a french girl who lives in paris

00:17:12.600 and she was saying that she can't go out after nine anymore even if she goes out during the day she's

00:17:16.440 constantly constantly harassed basically women in western cities they're gonna have to start wearing

00:17:23.240 the headscarf if they want to be safe outdoors or we can introduce a system of mass remigration well 1.00

00:17:30.200 all that yes and in this case i think it's uh it's just also the uh the a case of uh men taking

00:17:38.920 advantage of a lonely vulnerable woman who was alone in the dark particular type of man but but yeah yeah

00:17:46.040 so here there's an article by telegraph talking about this and i want to show you towards the end what

00:17:52.360 they're saying the case has laid bare germany's harsh defamation laws which criminalize causing

00:17:59.640 offense with even mild slurs like idiot breaking the law can lead to punishment of up to two years

00:18:06.680 in prison district court said it had received strong reactions over the rulings in both the defamation case

00:18:13.880 and the rape trial which prompted it hamburg authorities are now investigating around 140 more suspects

00:18:20.760 for insulting or threatening the gun rapists with a hundred of the suspects based outside hamburg

00:18:27.080 a court spokesman told the hamburger am abend plot blood logo newspaper last week we are observing the

00:18:34.600 hostility in connection with the proceedings and the verdict with great concern he said the anger over

00:18:40.440 the case had reached a new worrying level of intensity and described the criticism as a targeted attack on

00:18:49.560 rule of law i mean words are more harmful to the rule of law

00:19:01.560 than these actions is that's the question that everyone is thinking what they mean by rule of law

00:19:08.760 is you cannot question us as we import millions more of these people that's what they apparently so

00:19:14.440 apparently and the libtards of europe wonder why afd keeps gaining in popularity yeah surprise surprise 1.00

00:19:21.720 i'm just mystified but they're not getting like 80 percent of the vote yeah right how has it taken this

00:19:25.720 long yeah although we you know we can't we can't really criticize too much and speaking of afd we have

00:19:32.760 here from two months ago approximately may the 8th 2024 an article published by free speech union about a young

00:19:41.480 afd politician who was convicted who was convicted after publishing gang rape statistics in connection

00:19:47.080 with afghan migration that were published by the german police so it's not that she found some statistics

00:19:57.240 somewhere and just make them up yeah she didn't make them up just reposted she reposted and basically 1.00

00:20:04.520 they analyzed statistics that the german police circulated and let me show you some of these statistics

00:20:15.080 that were circulated by the german police they say that in 2023 there were 419 000 afghans residing in

00:20:25.720 germany 38 380 000 of whom were afghan citizens at the end of 2013 and seven years prior to the taliban

00:20:37.800 takeover of the country the total number of afghans in germany stood at just under 67 000 kaiser justified

00:20:46.360 her concern about uncontrolled immigration by referring to a series of newspaper articles that cited official

00:20:53.960 government statistics showing afghans are disproportionately involved in the perpetration

00:21:00.200 of sexual crimes in germany figures released by the federal criminal police office of germany bka in

00:21:06.680 2022 revealed that a total of 677 gang rapes were recorded in 2021 up from 300 in 2018 although non-german

00:21:18.680 citizens comprised just 13.7 percent of the country's total population there were suspects in exactly

00:21:26.440 half of those cases hey what does it take before german men start forming militia to deal with this

00:21:32.760 problem themselves i don't know i don't know but this shows a clear over representation of particular

00:21:41.240 groups when it comes to crimes of these sort and this raises questions with respect to how culture informs

00:21:51.320 our actions and whether cultures are compatible and when they are incompatible this is this is basically

00:21:59.880 what everyone is thinking and asking about no one says that culture doesn't affect who we become

00:22:07.480 no no no one says this i have yet to find someone who says this everyone understands that cultures are

00:22:14.920 patterns of actions reactions feelings sentiments and ways of valuing things they doubtlessly affect who we

00:22:24.360 become just by changing a location in the earth's coordinates just by changing location in a country

00:22:34.040 doesn't mean that this influence completely uh gets destroyed or overwritten just think of how

00:22:42.120 difficult it is to cut some bad habits for instance even trying to just lose weight sometimes can be

00:22:48.600 unbelievably difficult because of how people are habituated imagine how cultural habituation affects us

00:22:57.720 and uh soon after this because she was fined and i i think for around 6 000 euros there was an infamous attack

00:23:10.840 to michael stuartzenberger in germany in mannheim there was a stabbing a police officer died uh ruven l

00:23:19.480 and uh this is just something that angered everyone and uh in some cases it generated some memes about how

00:23:32.440 europe is treating the native population of western countries and how the leadership of the eu

00:23:41.160 is acting as if they're not particularly switched on with the considerations regarding safety of

00:23:49.000 the native westerners so that that's i think that this is a very important question that we should be

00:23:56.520 asking because everyone accepts that cultures affect who we become everyone accepts that cultures affect who

00:24:05.480 we become because they habituate us in particular ways and there are questions that should be asked

00:24:12.040 as to when cultures are compatible and when they're not because upon this question upon the answer to this

00:24:19.240 question we can have a more prudent policy with respect to coexistence and we can have a much more

00:24:28.440 informed just judgment when it comes to how we are going to decide who is going to live with who and

00:24:36.680 who is not going to coexist with us so i think i think i disagree with that okay i don't think it's a

00:24:43.880 question okay i think i think we go straight to action house lander i don't want to i don't want to

00:24:49.640 um yeah just clear them out yeah simple as that no i'm saying clear i'm i agree with this i'm saying

00:24:58.440 clear out those we understand are acculturated in a way that is fundamentally at odds with

00:25:09.000 our value systems that that's that's what i'm saying so i i don't think that uh it's more an issue of

00:25:15.640 how we go about it so i think that this is this is the main question and this is the question that isn't

00:25:23.240 asked particularly when it comes to discussions in mainstream media because every time someone tries

00:25:29.880 to say that i'm skeptical of unrestricted mass migration everyone is just trying to demonize that

00:25:39.480 person at least everyone can i just know i mean you got this article here about this story and then

00:25:44.440 you look at the side panel now state stay where you were look at that side panel uh number three

00:25:48.840 far right national rally tops french election poll results i mean you know this you know cause reaction

00:25:55.080 i was i was listening to dw news yesterday in the way they were talking about le pen and literally they

00:26:03.000 said far right 10 10 out of nine words that came out of their mouth yeah and just give you i want to

00:26:13.720 end with a final article that is about another case and want to illustrate yet again the issue of

00:26:20.440 cultural continuities and discontinuities this is an article that was published in the end of may this

00:26:28.120 year 2024 on daily mail where they're talking about a 20 year old gypsy who raped 12 year old girl 0.59

00:26:35.320 and left her pregnant with twins was acquitted by spanish court because their relationship is part of the

00:26:42.680 cultural reality of their community and as they have on the bullet points this is the article from

00:26:48.840 the daily mail i'm reading from it court ruled that their sexual relations were just a part of gypsy

00:26:56.680 culture and i want to say that i i don't know if that's true or not but if it is then that's a massive

00:27:05.080 cultural discontinuity that's one of the problems isn't it in the west now the uh another culture 1.00

00:27:12.600 their their norms i don't know how you want to say it uh take precedent over the laws of the land

00:27:19.320 so for example you might have a law that um having sex in any way shape or form for 12 year olds is

00:27:24.280 simply statutory rape yeah so that's it that's there should be no other no other nothing else it's not

00:27:30.760 like our laws their laws it's our laws their laws it can't work like that that's multiculturalism because 1.00

00:27:38.440 multiculturalism says that groups that are not within quotation mark dominant groups should not

00:27:47.000 have for uh pressures to assimilate that is why every time anyone commits an act of violence against

00:27:54.600 anyone else we have a whole system that tries to portray that crime as something that originates

00:28:03.720 in the pressure to assimilate into western culture whatever happens it is western cultures that get to

00:28:11.240 be blamed and i will end with with this claim because we are talking about hideous sexual offenses

00:28:17.880 people in academia most probably they won't admit it but they perpetuate the lie that western culture

00:28:27.000 is supposedly a male rape culture supposedly a culture that is somehow pro

00:28:36.040 sexual abuse and that somehow men think this way we do not and also we don't have a culture

00:28:42.280 also we don't we don't have one well mind you increasingly we do have a rape culture because 0.98

00:28:47.880 that's what the legal system is supporting yeah because we've imported it and our legal system is

00:28:52.280 not native yeah anyway so i i i really think that this was a horrific uh story and i literally don't want

00:29:02.760 i literally hope that it's somehow not true but every time we say things like that sadly we remind that

00:29:11.080 reality is sometimes far worse than horror movies and fiction so should we go to the to another

00:29:18.280 segment okay yeah um so i'm going to talk all about trump let me just get the document here so

00:29:28.040 the donald donald trump and uh the supreme court oh i have to also first of all uh show some of our merch

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00:30:04.760 the donald king donald the first of his name to be the king elect uh no so okay so what it was then

00:30:13.720 just uh if we play well before i play this short video i wanted to play a bit from the bbc just to

00:30:19.560 give everyone if anyone doesn't know just sort of the general mainstream corporate mainstream

00:30:24.200 i've heard something about this apparently apparently it's now being ruled by the supreme

00:30:28.440 court that he can basically just whack people whenever he wants or not just him any any president

00:30:33.880 um so we'll talk about the nature of presidential immunity from prosecution we'll talk about that

00:30:39.320 later but of course uh donald's political enemies have alleged that he sort of tried an insurrection

00:30:49.240 didn't he on january 6th yeah um at the end of his last term um they tried to well they tried to

00:30:55.160 impeach him for it remember that yeah nancy and all the dems tried to impeach him and failed and then 1.00

00:31:02.360 they they kept sort of talking about an impeachment as though they had impeached him they hadn't they

00:31:07.560 tried to and failed to um so nonetheless after that after he left office they have tried to bring

00:31:13.640 uh prosecutions against him yeah uh but it went to the supreme court as to whether he could be

00:31:22.040 prosecuted for it or not right um and so that's what is coming up so in the first case they had hoped

00:31:29.320 that it wouldn't even get before the supreme court they would just be able to the justice department

00:31:34.360 just simply would be able to prosecute him for anything they dreamed up so so which is the case

00:31:39.240 that went to the supreme court that triggered this it is it is that thing that he was it was

00:31:44.840 it the jan 6th case yeah yeah okay yeah and and now with this as well as to do with georgia remember

00:31:51.160 in georgia he has a telephone call where he said and see if you can find more votes for me yes and

00:31:57.000 they said oh that's that's election interference that's the state of georgia that's election fraud yeah

00:32:01.720 not the country of georgia in the caucuses so it am i understanding this correctly that now that

00:32:06.520 trump has all these king-like powers that if he if he could he could imprison his main political rival on

00:32:13.960 charges is that kind of what it allows him to do no oh okay no so there's so what this is is there's

00:32:21.240 many layers of politicking going on here right and it's a bit difficult well it's not actually all that

00:32:26.200 difficult but um you've got to be careful with what's what what's being said so first of all the

00:32:31.960 first layer sort of the top layer if you like i think we should start with is what the mainstream

00:32:36.920 media are saying what somebody like the bbc how they're presenting the story in the narrative right

00:32:42.280 so it's about three three and a half minutes long but if we watch this this whole video so we as a

00:32:46.920 base to begin our discussion the u.s supreme court has ruled that donald trump has some immunity from

00:32:54.920 prosecution for official actions taken while he was in the white house the landmark decision is likely to

00:33:01.560 delay his trial for interfering in the 2020 election the former president described the decision as a

00:33:08.040 big win our north america editor sarah smith reports the powerful supreme court has the final say on what

00:33:16.120 presidents can and cannot do today's historic ruling means a president can never be prosecuted for

00:33:21.960 anything that's part of their official duties but they do not have immunity for non-official acts

00:33:27.000 so what does this mean for the criminal cases against donald trump

00:33:33.800 when he spoke to supporters on january the 6th was he officially acting as the president

00:33:38.840 or as the losing candidate we fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell you're not going

00:33:44.040 to have a country anymore donald trump is facing criminal charges related to the january

00:33:50.200 the sixth riot and attempting to overturn the election results as his supporters stormed the

00:33:58.600 capitol building they chanted hang mike pence angry with the vice president because he refused to block

00:34:04.360 the certification of joe biden as president mr pence had to be evacuated from his office

00:34:10.600 donald trump cannot now be prosecuted for all the conversations in which he had been pressuring

00:34:15.160 mike pence to overturn the election results the supreme court did not say whether all the charges

00:34:20.600 donald trump is facing are covered by presidential immunity so it's going to have to be argued out in

00:34:25.320 a lower court which of his actions were official presidential acts and have immunity and which were

00:34:30.680 not meaning he can still be prosecuted for them trump is also facing charges in the state of georgia for

00:34:36.520 trying to overturn the election result there he phoned a local official and asked him to find more votes

00:34:41.880 so look all i want to do is this i just want to find uh 11 780 votes which is one more than we have

00:34:55.800 because we won the state a court will have to rule on whether he was acting as president or not

00:35:01.240 when he made that call justice sonia sotomayor a more liberal judge completely disagrees with the ruling

00:35:07.800 saying in every use of official power the president is now a king above the law if he orders the navy seal

00:35:14.200 team six to assassinate a political rival immune organizes a military coup to hold on to power immune

00:35:21.480 until now every president who has served in the united states has understood that he could be

00:35:27.000 prosecuted if he engaged in criminal conduct while president going forward presidents know they're free

00:35:33.800 the most immediate effect of this ruling will be to further delay the three court cases mr trump is

00:35:39.400 still facing making it all but certain they will not come to court before november's election okay

00:35:44.680 that's the main thing if you can stop playing that then there's a bit more there but it's just fluff

00:35:48.520 this is just reminding me why i haven't watched the bbc for 20 years so almost everything there yes spun

00:35:55.400 could be as anti-trump as possible almost every tiny bit of it right the little clips they decided to

00:36:02.680 show and what they decide what information they decided to leave that just the framing of

00:36:06.440 everything yeah the framing it's the classic lies by omission what they're not saying what they're not

00:36:11.320 showing um so and anyone who knows the story who's been awake for the last few years knows what really

00:36:17.560 happened yeah um so first of all sorry can i ask you a question before uh you start because they said that

00:36:27.320 the ruling is supposed to be about immunity when the president acts officially yeah so it's it has

00:36:36.920 nothing to do with immunity when the president acts unofficially but if you've seen the very beginning of

00:36:42.040 the video they asked whether he was acting as a president so perhaps this is going to be the second

00:36:47.400 stage of attack if this doesn't work because if now the discussion is about presidential immunity but

00:36:55.000 then they're going to ask was he president or not at the time so maybe it's the second stage of and

00:37:00.760 he was i mean he just was until the next president is sworn in he's still the president so it's just

00:37:07.000 nonsense so let's just talk a little bit about presidential immunity so um the the shields on

00:37:13.400 there were trying to say that there's something massive is new has changed that now a president is like a

00:37:19.400 king is above the law and all that sort of thing nothing essentially has changed so when you take

00:37:25.560 on the office of the president of the united states you've got immunity from prosecution right so if you

00:37:33.160 take for example and you can only be prosecuted if and when you've been quote unquote impeached so

00:37:39.880 if you take for example the story of richard nixon on my own channel history bro check that out like

00:37:44.280 and subscribe i've got one see early series i did i think the five six seven eight part series all

00:37:49.400 about watergate the watergate scandal and the downfall of richard nixon um i've read a few books

00:37:55.240 about richard nixon and it's very interesting story to me so what happened with nixon is he committed a few

00:38:01.880 crimes uh ordering people to break into places right so in the scheme of things not terrible crimes but

00:38:10.520 nonetheless definitely definitely crimes breaking and entering and stealing some documents things

00:38:15.080 like that planting bugs things like that then also perjury then going on record lying about it

00:38:20.760 so they were nixon's crimes right and uh but they can't prosecute him because he's president he's got

00:38:26.680 immunity from prosecution um just so it's not new but they wanted his political enemies wanted to

00:38:33.960 prosecute him for this so they needed to impeach him that and then be put on trial by the senate

00:38:40.920 and then if he and so after he's impeached put on trial by the senate found guilty then he can then

00:38:47.320 he'll face problems so um what happened in the case of richard nixon was uh it looked like that

00:38:56.200 he would he would be impeached he didn't have enough political support to prevent himself from being

00:39:01.880 impeached if that happened and it went to the senate again the numbers were they would find him guilty and

00:39:09.720 then he's looking at prison time and stuff right so before he was impeached he did cut a deal with

00:39:17.800 the special prosecutors to resign from office that's what happened to nixon so nixon actually

00:39:23.160 was never impeached and was never put on trial uh so that's nixon okay but was he given then some

00:39:30.280 sort of blanket pardoned by gerald ford then pardoned him pardoned him yeah yeah yeah but but he but he

00:39:36.440 couldn't have been pardoning him for an actual crime it was just well then yeah there was crimes yeah the

00:39:41.640 breaking and entering stuff but not nothing that he'd been found guilty of or anything but no that's the

00:39:45.800 question and i think though why pardon someone if they haven't broken so quick word then about that

00:39:51.160 the presidential pardon presidential pardons are some of the most uh sweeping pardons it's possible

00:39:57.720 we don't really have any equivalent in britain um and if you get a presidential pardon it's just a

00:40:03.160 complete blanket you're completely free your record is we kind of kind of do i think i think the monarch

00:40:10.840 can do whatever the hell they want and they're just outside the law i don't think so not since

00:40:15.080 the 17th century i'm afraid now parliament is supreme i remember there was a bit on the queen's

00:40:21.240 website head for such things well yeah i mean yeah okay apart from that so another example is uh

00:40:29.880 bill clinton right william clinton was uh did crimes again perjury he said i did not have sexual relations

00:40:38.840 with monica lewinski when he did and then there was proof on her dress right which she kept you can

00:40:45.960 infer as you do what that's all about um and so and he was he was uh impeached and found guilty and his

00:40:53.640 his uh his punishment for that was to be disbarred because bill like a lot of politicians was a lawyer

00:40:59.960 originally he's not allowed to practice law in arkansas anymore oh that would get him so yeah that would

00:41:06.120 show him so bill i mean in the olden days in the mid-20th century or before if if that's so

00:41:12.600 disgraceful that you probably would have thought he'd do nixon and resign out of disgrace but of

00:41:17.320 course yeah bill has got no shame and just carried on well and also he's a democrat so held to a

00:41:22.680 different standard yeah and the me yeah right yeah the media didn't pummel him day after day after day

00:41:27.080 afterwards after that yeah and and still run interference for him to this day uh so okay so

00:41:33.800 uh but bill again um would have had immunity and he had to go through the impeachment all that sort

00:41:39.160 of thing so all right i don't want to label the point too much presidents have got immunity

00:41:43.880 yeah from a lot of from almost anything you know like someone like lbj can just bomb civilians 0.93

00:41:50.680 in north vietnam or cambodia or something killing millions of people or obama can drone kill american 0.53

00:41:56.120 civilians that kind of stuff right yeah yeah there's no murder trials because they're immune

00:42:00.760 yeah but it's okay so anyway there's that's that's the office of the president acting as the office of

00:42:05.720 the president but then you can also well as the supreme court now has decided that there's make a

00:42:11.880 distinction between that and sort of acting in a private capacity so say any president not just donald trump

00:42:20.840 say any president just did uh sort of out of hours if you like they did some sort of minor crime that's

00:42:28.040 obviously got nothing to do with the office of president right like say just on in a washington dc alley

00:42:35.320 they committed a sex crime or something yeah they could still be should still be prosecuted

00:42:39.480 for that it's not complete blanket immunity so what that um justice sotomayor said it's just extreme

00:42:46.520 hyperbole oh he can sense any president now can i mean trump's not even the president they're blaming

00:42:53.400 him for it already but he could send soul team six to kill his enemies and he'd be immune i don't think

00:42:59.400 so i think there would be impeachment and uh and a trial and all sorts of things and actually it's far

00:43:04.440 more likely that a democrat would do that right yeah oh yeah probably yeah way more likely again this

00:43:10.200 is going down the road of what i've talked about the the parallels with the marion and sullen civil war

00:43:14.920 in ancient rome where there's a tit for tat back and forth of destroying the sort of the rule of law

00:43:21.560 and norms and uh keep upping each other in terms of how far they're pushing the limits of what a republic

00:43:28.520 can stand before it the whole thing falls to bits i feel like you just want to say something no no i'm just

00:43:35.160 listening yeah um okay so i wanted to ask something about the official and the non-official because

00:43:42.200 there's a question if there are official actions and the president acts according to let's say the

00:43:49.560 what the constitution decrees as being the the range of official actions actions why do why do they need

00:44:00.120 to have immunity but an answer that someone gave me was that it has to do with litigiousness

00:44:07.800 because the reason they need this immunity is because the amount of people who just constantly

00:44:17.080 disagree with each president and saying that they are violating the constitution on basis on

00:44:24.200 bases that are very subjective spurious is increasing and that makes governance basically impossible yeah

00:44:32.440 no exactly i mean that's what i'm talking about with the parallels with marius and sulla in ancient

00:44:36.520 rome yeah just increasingly using uh sort of lawfare to try and undercut each other and then it spills

00:44:44.280 over into the real world and actually having yeah mobs partisan mobs on the streets i mean uh i mean

00:44:52.120 january 6th is one example or the blm summer of summer of fire summer of love whatever that was

00:44:59.240 on the other side of the equation a mob warfare until the actual rule of law has been broken and

00:45:06.040 no one's really paying attention to it anymore and then you have to get the army involved and then

00:45:12.680 then you're into some sort of military leadership you might still have presidents but we know the

00:45:19.480 people like the person who controls the actual the bottom line who controls the force will be the real

00:45:24.680 leader i.e some general anyway we'll see if it goes that far so to carry on with the story um msnbc

00:45:32.760 for example uh doesn't like what the supreme court said because it means that his his his trial for

00:45:41.800 these trumped up charges will be after november and if he wins then he can just get the state department

00:45:47.400 to just drop them entirely because our uh pun intended trumped up charges against trump aren't they

00:45:53.320 uh so in other words it is a quite it is sort of a fairly significant win for the donald

00:45:57.880 it does mean uh there's a few less headaches quite a few less headaches for him between now and november

00:46:04.280 and the left side of of the equation here are obviously butthurt about that quite badly and

00:46:11.080 they'll they spin it and they like so take this take this piece of work for example i've seen this guy

00:46:16.280 uh uh neil katyal i've seen him doing the rounds on more than one thing i see him on channel four

00:46:22.600 news and here he is on msnbc let's not even bother playing it but he's just saying oh it's terrible

00:46:27.080 it's a way to play a bit of it we play a bit of it samson um let's bring in neil katyal neil

00:46:32.920 yeah i want to return to this point from the dissents about the impact of this decision today on our

00:46:37.880 democracy and you know in response to chuck and chuck's absolutely right the majority says

00:46:43.720 there'll be case-by-case hearings to determine whether something is an official act or not

00:46:49.480 i just don't think and i agree here with the dissent that that's any sort of protection here

00:46:54.200 we've never needed those kinds of case-by-case hearings before we've always just assumed a

00:46:59.400 president is not above the law and in these hearings these case-by-case hearings as lisa points out

00:47:05.880 you can't even introduce any evidence of a president's motive why he was trying to do something like

00:47:11.080 pressure the justice department or do whatever um and it'll be presumption to listen to these

00:47:17.400 these filth he's got slappable so it's like so let's remember what happened january 6th there was a

00:47:22.920 uh an augmented election what do they say what's the word they fortified a fortified election yes

00:47:27.960 and there was some sort of backlash from the people well they basically they basically said we

00:47:31.880 want the process to play out properly and not be cut short it wasn't an insurrection it was just let

00:47:37.320 let's just do the process yeah properly yeah yeah and trump where they played a a sound clip of him

00:47:44.440 they're saying you've got a fight for your country uh don't play the clip where he explicitly says

00:47:49.240 don't cause any trouble yeah and it's okay for aoc to go up on stage and say repeatedly we've got a

00:47:55.400 fight and it sounds like she's really meaning it the double standard again but anyway uh just the

00:48:00.440 the the gaslighting that it's like that trump is criminally negligible for something i constantly

00:48:09.320 listen to them talking about trump being somehow above the law whereas the there is also the

00:48:17.240 distinction between the official and the unofficial acts yeah just it's just not it's just nonsense um

00:48:24.680 um yeah the idea that i mean it's not he's not even the president they're already making out like

00:48:30.600 he's got that he can do anything he wants of course he can't um well there's a bit from i had a bit

00:48:37.160 teed up from rachel maddow but you can imagine what she says of course it's just spinning the entire

00:48:43.080 narrative so the orange man bad it's just the same old tired old thing um assuming that the audience

00:48:53.240 know nothing about the nature of presidential immunity well her audience probably doesn't

00:48:57.320 assuming the audience know nothing about the actual sequence of events assuming the audience knows

00:49:03.000 nothing about the nature of what is or isn't just all these things it's just it's just the most

00:49:08.920 disgusting stuff um so actually can we play the link with biden there and this is what biden had to say

00:49:15.800 about it this nation was founded on the principle that there are no kings in america each each of us

00:49:24.280 is equal before the law no one no one is above the law not even the president of the united states

00:49:32.120 apart from the burisma deal today's supreme court decision on presidential immunity

00:49:36.920 that fundamentally changed for all for all practical purposes today's decision almost certainly means

00:49:44.600 that there are virtually you can see his eyes tracking the television can do this is a

00:49:49.240 fundamentally new principle no it isn't and it's a dangerous precedent because the power of the office

00:49:55.160 will no longer be constrained by the law even including the supreme court of the united states

00:50:01.400 the only limits will be self-imposed by the president alone nearly four years ago my predecessor

00:50:07.960 sent a violent mob to the u.s capitol no he didn't stop the peaceful transfer of power

00:50:12.840 no we all saw with our own eyes we sat there and watched it happen that day attack on the police

00:50:21.240 watching the ranch shot in the chest at point bank range by a mom literally hunting down the house

00:50:26.600 speaker nancy pelosi gallows erected to hang the vice president mike pence was it i think it's fair to

00:50:34.200 say it's one of the darkest days in the history of america now the man who sent that mob to the u.s capitol

00:50:40.920 is facing potential criminal conviction for what happened that day and the american people deserve

00:50:46.760 to have an answer in the courts before the upcoming election the public has a right to know

00:50:53.320 the answer about what happened on january 6th before they asked to vote again this year

00:50:59.480 now because of today's decision that is highly highly unlikely

00:51:04.760 it's a terrible disservice to the people of this nation i know i will respect the limits of the

00:51:09.400 presidential powers i have for three and a half years but any president including donald trump

00:51:15.400 will now be free to ignore the law i concur with justice sotomayor's dissent today

00:51:22.520 oh she does she hears what she said she said in every use of official power

00:51:26.760 the president is now a king above the law with fear for our democracy i dissent

00:51:34.600 end of quote associate the american people dissent

00:51:39.880 i dissent

00:51:40.680 may god bless you all and may god help preserve our democracy thank you all right so just complete

00:51:47.720 nonsense there from a geriatric yeah um yeah absolutely just spin it now one thing i would say

00:51:54.600 is that what is dangerous and which we because we didn't watch rachel maddow and that neil

00:52:00.520 i think we know what they're going to say and lots of other uh left-leaning commentators are saying

00:52:06.120 is that not only is this a blow to the rule of law or to america uh but it's the nature of the supreme

00:52:13.800 court itself let's blame the supreme court itself the justice the supreme justices have done something

00:52:20.840 bad and wrong here now that's dangerous that's dangerous to call into question the very nature

00:52:28.840 of the supreme court that the that's something that needs to be reformed or done away with

00:52:35.720 so that's much much more dangerous than six out of the nine supreme court justices deciding that trump

00:52:44.680 shouldn't necessarily or should have immunity from some of the things he is alleged to have done

00:52:50.120 in january that year um so i've got a quote here that i want to read out it's quite long

00:52:55.800 it's a full paragraph long i want to read it out it's from um a great man alistair cook there's a picture

00:53:02.840 of alistair cook um now he's an englishman and he wrote a great deal many many books all about america

00:53:12.040 he lived in america i think he went to cambridge and after cambridge he went to america in the 20s or the

00:53:17.400 30s and there he is as a fairly old man in the 1970s i think he actually lived into extreme old

00:53:23.400 age anyway um he knows american history inside out he wrote lots and lots and lots of books about

00:53:30.760 all aspects of america from sort of the blues that you can find down in new orleans through to the

00:53:37.560 nature of the constitution and the supreme court and all sorts of things he wrote he famously did a

00:53:43.560 long series called letters from america yeah which anyone who's old enough to remember it's a tiny

00:53:48.440 bit before my time but when i found out about alistair cook uh when i was a bit younger i gauged

00:53:53.960 myself on his material he's great very very very learned interesting person um there's also a tv

00:54:01.720 series i think just called alistair cook's america which is a rehash of his letters from america and

00:54:08.280 anyway there's a great passage in that where he talks about the nature of the supreme court

00:54:14.360 um so if i can read that out hopefully i'll put this in context that what's the dangerous thing

00:54:19.480 here is not trump is not the nature of presidential immunity that's suddenly been changed and now

00:54:24.920 they've got kings nothing is particularly has changed um if anything some sort of justice has been done

00:54:33.320 so that trump doesn't have to go through the rigmarole of kangaroo prosecutions um so alistair cook says

00:54:41.400 this you see the constitution set up the president to keep an eye on the congress and the congress to

00:54:47.560 keep an eye on the president and to keep an eye on both of them was something else the supreme court of

00:54:53.000 judges appointed for life above the political battle and yet this is vital they are able to decide the

00:54:59.800 outcome of all the battles political and social of american life that engage the best and worst

00:55:05.800 passions of the people it is the watchdog of the ordinary american citizen and there's nothing like

00:55:11.000 it i.e. in the rest of the world um i've been a working correspondent in this country for over 35

00:55:17.080 years he was talking in the 1970s um and i only now realize how often i look back down the years

00:55:23.880 at some really dangerous crisis that has happened and said thank god for the supreme court for these

00:55:29.960 nine men because they were nearly always men at least back then um for these nine men who guard

00:55:35.800 the rights of the ordinary citizen and the orders and the ordinary citizen could be a president or a pimp

00:55:41.240 a banker or a bum and the judge's brief and their bible is the constitution of the united states they sit 0.91

00:55:47.800 most days of the year and they look into the constitution and they decide if if something that somebody has done

00:55:53.880 anybody is legal whether you can for instance run an undertaker's and also own stock in an insurance

00:55:59.640 company you cannot or whether a stage play of naked men and women running around shouting four letters

00:56:06.280 words is constitutional the nine judges are never bound by precedent even their own they have defended

00:56:12.920 the right some right of children to work in factories throughout the night and then absolutely

00:56:17.880 absolutely forbidden them to do just that they have proclaimed the right to keep blacks and whites 1.00

00:56:23.640 apart on trains and then 60 70 years later proclaimed the right to put blacks and whites together on 0.51

00:56:29.960 trains in schools theaters everywhere so you see in the constitution like the old testament can be

00:56:37.640 cited to forgive one's enemies or gouge an eye for an eye but make no mistake this chamber and he was

00:56:44.120 talking from the the chamber of the supreme court make no mistake this chamber is haunted by memorable faces

00:56:50.360 and single sentences that have transformed the life of the american people chief justice marshall quote

00:56:56.040 it is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department and nobody else to say what the law is

00:57:03.000 mr justice sutherland the liberty of the individual to do as he pleases even in innocent matters is not

00:57:09.400 absolute again these are all things that the constitution doesn't explicitly say one way or the other

00:57:14.680 it's the supreme court that has to decide mr justice harland said 80 years ago against all eight of his

00:57:21.000 colleagues the constitution is colorblind mr justice holmes oliver wendell holmes said a constitution is made

00:57:29.960 for people of fundamentally differing views chief justice huge the constitution is what the judges say it is

00:57:36.760 i mean wow imagine that the constitution is what we say is uh so the buck stops with them in all sorts of ways um and and um um

00:57:49.480 um he go alistair cook goes on to say and so it is meaning the constitution is what the judges say is and so it is and since

00:57:58.440 the majority of the nine decide everything the constitution is what five judges say it is

00:58:04.040 now this sounds very alarming but these nine men are human and of various character and there's nothing

00:58:10.200 rigid about the authority of the constitution it bends to the moral winds of the time but if the

00:58:15.000 judges are behind the times and if their integrity as honorable men is seriously questioned then the

00:58:21.240 court and the country are in trouble but i've noticed that an odd and impressive thing happens can

00:58:26.920 happen when a man is appointed to the court the president may think that he has installed a

00:58:32.360 ventriloquist's doll doll but suddenly the man is paid for life and can become himself a quite

00:58:39.000 different character from the one the president ordered up and so remarkably often the court has

00:58:43.960 kept the country on an even keel in the stormiest of times believe me it will be a bad day for america

00:58:50.920 if ever the mass of them come to see come to lose faith in this court as their fair and final

00:58:56.920 protector end quote now that's that's a profound thing there that presidents come and go congresses come

00:59:07.400 and go get swapped out for new people the supreme court is more important than that it is almost like a sacred

00:59:13.560 thing so for the sacred thing is the constitution which they defend right which they interpret it is

00:59:19.560 the constitution is what they say it is quite literally so um to call into question as the dems

00:59:27.960 do quite often or they say they they say things like why do we have to have nine why don't we have

00:59:33.880 more than nine and we'll pack it out with with our guys and stuff again this is how republics fracture

00:59:41.960 and die and that's what they're doing is someone like rachel maddow doesn't seem to 0.97

00:59:46.520 pause for a moment before just saying oh it's the supreme court they're the problem they're the issue

00:59:52.200 we need to take issue with them well america will be in trouble if they do

00:59:59.000 i think people forget what was the reaction by us democrats to the election of trump in 2016

01:00:06.680 when they were talking about the system with the electors they were against it because they were

01:00:11.320 saying hillary won hillary clinton won the popular vote and uh trump is president because he won

01:00:18.920 due to the electors and that is what the constitution says yeah it's the way it's always been

01:00:23.800 yeah yeah you can win the quote-unquote popular vote i.e literally more people voted for you but it's not

01:00:29.160 about that yeah it's about the electoral college yeah and that's the way it's always been but yeah they

01:00:34.840 they they they're just but hurt that they lost but but it's interesting saying anything doing anything

01:00:39.800 throwing the republic itself under the bus so that they can win but there there's a deeper thing that

01:00:46.120 is interesting here because the system of the electors of the electorates of other districts

01:00:54.280 is based on the idea that just because you live somewhere doesn't mean that you're about to vote for

01:01:01.080 some other place there has to be a sort of local representation yeah that's why they have the seats

01:01:07.800 within each state yeah and this is something that possibly democrats really don't like

01:01:13.000 the us democrats yeah who by by the way i see it they're much more in favor of a very paternalistic

01:01:19.480 democracy than i think is an oxymoron there's always been a struggle for politically for the heart

01:01:24.120 and soul of america going back to washington and adams and hamilton and jefferson and all these

01:01:30.920 guys the the balance between the federal government and the states and uh america as we have it

01:01:38.920 today is really is really jefferson won that battle i've done some interesting content with

01:01:44.760 benjamin boyce talking about this again go to history bro my channel on youtube find the conversation

01:01:50.680 or two i've had with benjamin boyce talking about how hamilton and jefferson their view of what america

01:01:57.960 should be how it's set up whether it's the central government in washington dc the federal government

01:02:03.640 should be sort of all dominant or whether the states should to what extent the states have autonomy

01:02:10.840 over their own state um and so yeah it's still a thing to this day where people are of different

01:02:17.080 minds about it i said the electors it's electorates i think sorry okay so i've maybe run a touch over time

01:02:24.440 there but um trump did nothing wrong and uh fingers crossed for him in november and the dems can suck it 0.78

01:02:32.760 right well guys if you think that was important saving the constitution i've got something far more

01:02:36.600 important for you we have got to save the president we have got to save joe

01:02:44.200 oh right oh okay technical issues technical issues technical issues they will absolutely

01:02:49.480 because it's hairspray sometimes it interacts with the monitor in a way that just causes it to to blitz

01:02:54.120 out i don't use hairspray no what are you putting on then that does that i'm sure it's so it has

01:03:03.640 something to do with my hair is that a perm like the johnny bravo one

01:03:09.000 yeah right here we go so uh let's tag on a few extra minutes at the end samson because we can't

01:03:17.160 we can't let the people go without their comments we will take some extra minutes to

01:03:21.800 yeah should we shill uh we should do some shilling in this time and the back office guys will

01:03:27.000 be annoyed with us if we don't shill i'll shill i'll shill okay yeah i'll work it in seamlessly you

01:03:33.640 know watch me go all right are we are we good shall we look good hairspray applied good

01:03:41.960 right so i've got something really important to talk about in this one we have to save the

01:03:46.200 president because i don't know if you've heard the guys but there are dark forces at work in america

01:03:50.680 trying to depose the most popular president of all time they're trying to get joe out he is the most

01:03:56.440 popular president he is that's a matter of record isn't it as a matter of fact 81 million votes

01:04:01.480 we cannot be this guy cannot get we need him to be the democratic nominee come november and i will

01:04:08.280 not have it i will not have it sir uh before we come to that i just want to point out that we're

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01:04:44.360 off and all that stuff right so the debate about a week ago wasn't it a bit less than a week ago

01:04:50.360 yeah right quick vox pop here what bits do you actually remember a week later tell me which bits

01:04:57.320 you remember i i remember trump taking the mickey out of biden's swing golf swing so there's the

01:05:03.720 golf he couldn't get he can't hit 50 yards what do you remember still the other scene where he's

01:05:09.880 calling him a loser right okay i don't even remember that one remember jill biden afterwards

01:05:16.200 screaming at the audience that trump's a liar i don't know if i can count that doesn't count

01:05:20.760 i can't moments moments from the debate uh one where biden was supposed to be talking about

01:05:26.760 abortion i think and then talked about illegal immigrants yes that was a good one 1.00

01:05:33.000 it's like biden biden teed it up perfectly for trump i mean okay we're talking about my strongest

01:05:41.000 issue which is abortion and now i'm going to pivot seamlessly to your strongest issue which is

01:05:46.680 migrant crime but of course the the top bit was um probably the bit where uh trump said i i don't

01:05:54.760 know what he just said and i don't think he did either right yeah and the re the reason i vox pop you

01:05:59.480 like that is because you know we can all do these big brain analyses like the day after when we just

01:06:04.760 watched it but it is important to just stop and think okay a week later what do i actually remember

01:06:09.960 because that's the bit that has cut through that's the bit that sort of resonates with people

01:06:14.600 and i've got to tell you i completely misjudged that debate because i watched it and i thought

01:06:21.960 okay yeah pretty standard joe pretty standard trump trump was a bit subdued i was then fully expecting

01:06:28.680 to go to the after show reactions to see the cnn's and all the rest of them saying oh joe's never been

01:06:34.200 better joe's brilliant because well it's it's part of our lived experience for the last four years

01:06:40.520 that biden is like the senile guy yeah and and you see every other candidate is trying to just show

01:06:47.240 as much strength and vigor as possible you have aoc resembling some figures of the past you know what

01:06:54.200 i mean jumping on top of stage and making speeches that are really impassioned you have also this

01:07:00.680 absolutely cringe video with jack black oh i haven't seen that one it's yes absolutely cringe you also have

01:07:07.480 very cringe videos with camilla harris yes very that seem a bit scripted but the thing is we've we've

01:07:12.840 known that joe was like this for four years so i watched that debate just fully expecting them to

01:07:18.280 just carry on as usual but but they but they didn't do that a pivot is going on something yeah

01:07:24.040 they're pivoting some some something something happened because they were all uniformly i mean apart

01:07:29.080 from i think rachel maddell she didn't get the memo and so she came out saying oh joe's never been

01:07:34.040 stronger all that kind of stuff but like cnn you uniformly and and to be fair even the the guests

01:07:40.600 on rachel maddell's show they then quickly sort of brought her up to speed on this they all pivoted

01:07:45.560 against him which kind of which kind of surprised me because they've been saying that he's sharp as

01:07:50.360 attacked for um you know quite a while um in fact let's let's let's for right for those of you

01:07:57.320 listening at home i'm going to play a video which i find very amusing which is um it's it's commentary

01:08:05.000 from the media from the past few years overlaid with joe's face from the debate so if you're

01:08:11.320 listening rather than watching you're not going to get the full effect from this but i think this is

01:08:14.360 let's play this this version of biden intellectually analytically is the best biden ever he is sharp

01:08:28.120 intensely probing and detail-oriented and focused for example we have a thousand trillionaires in america

01:08:37.240 this is a man who is sharp who is on top of his game who knows what's going on he's smart he's on his

01:08:42.360 game his mental acuity is great this is a very sharp president um and the people that i've talked

01:08:49.480 to say he's he's as sharp as attack he's fine they say he's sharp there's there's not a problem he was

01:08:54.920 sharp he was sharper than anyone i've spoken to the president uh is sharp and he is tireless he is

01:09:01.160 sharp as ever and um he's he's he's fine all this right-wing propaganda that his mental acuity is

01:09:08.600 declined he's declined he's wrong his brain is good he's still great he's sharp in meetings i believe

01:09:13.080 the people who say that behind closed doors joe biden remains sharp in meetings joe biden is is

01:09:17.960 sharp he's sharp he's fit and there is nothing to these challenges these suggestions that somehow

01:09:23.320 he's not sharp he's sharp as a tech making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person

01:09:29.640 uh eligible for what i've been able to do with the uh with the covet excuse me with um dealing with

01:09:38.440 everything we have to do with uh look if that was how i was presenting in the beginning when i started

01:09:50.600 so rapier like rapier like home down to a razor sharp

01:09:55.640 yeah so i find that particularly sorry what were you saying he reminds me of myself when i started

01:10:01.800 presenting on the podcast we did a bit on this the other week i think i did a bit actually and

01:10:08.440 it was very telling his face when trump's speaking yeah just um gumless really so that that i think was

01:10:17.640 the key the point the point that i was sort of belatedly making there while i was chuckling to myself was

01:10:22.040 that it's the face that's what that's the kind of the key thing you remember from it you know that

01:10:28.200 and the the gaffes and the mental slowness but it was just that slack face that sort of dementia face

01:10:34.600 that you get um i mean that that's key takeaway so anyway um the dems have disgracefully decided

01:10:42.680 um that he's no longer sharp as attacked despite the fact they've been saying it for years and there

01:10:47.080 were obviously no clues whatsoever that joe wasn't you know a thousand percent on it for the last few

01:10:54.120 years let me let me um disprove that by uh showing this video then and it get hot i got a lot of i got

01:11:01.240 hairy legs that turn that that that that that turn uh um blonde in the sun and the kids used to come up 1.00

01:11:10.200 and reach in the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and then watch the hair come back up again

01:11:17.880 they'd look at it so i learned about roaches i learned about kids jumping on my lap

01:11:22.600 and i've loved kids jumping on my lap right okay so um yes

01:11:29.320 that's horrible so there's one thing to be uh suffer from dementia oh and then there's another

01:11:35.480 thing to have sort of no energy as well so now obviously he's got dementia and no energy yeah

01:11:41.400 whereas at least then he still had a bit of a window tendencies as well in the sails there so he could

01:11:46.840 really yeah and and look my my key point on all of this is is how can we let this man go

01:11:54.120 it's the most popular president ever exactly he's the most popular president he has to be the democrat

01:11:59.480 nominee in november it's the strongest mandate the american people have ever given

01:12:04.840 to uh to a president i mean exactly i mean it turned i mean turns out that we we used to think

01:12:10.120 that obama was popular it turns out that the only reason obama won is because he had him as his vp

01:12:16.440 it's got to be there's no other explanation yeah because the moment you got obama out the way the

01:12:20.280 vote share just went way up well the yeah i mean the moment you got obama out the way and it went

01:12:25.320 past 3 a.m and a whole bunch of key counts were shut down yeah yeah i mean all that aside i mean

01:12:31.320 this the man's an absolute champion and and to be fair to him to be fair he does have a sort of

01:12:37.720 insane track record of winning i mean if you look back from like his first the first thing that he

01:12:43.000 ever ran for through the senate um as vp and then i mean he he basically just wins everything his his

01:12:50.440 whole career has been election wing election win election wing so you know uh why on earth would

01:12:57.720 the democrats abandon him now it's the charisma isn't it just the liquid charisma of the man yes

01:13:03.320 is undeniable it shines out of him doesn't that and the being sharp as a tax raise a sharp intellect

01:13:09.240 i mean yeah you just got anyway so um joking aside this man should clearly be

01:13:17.160 tucked up in a nursing home with a blanket over his legs um you know he that's what he wants to

01:13:22.920 be he wants to be sat in a nursing home watching reruns of clint eastern movies from the 70s and

01:13:28.680 having kids rub his legs and eating ice cream he obviously loves to eat ice cream so just let him

01:13:34.040 do that but i mean this i noted this is so obviously there was this discussion after the debate about

01:13:39.080 getting rid of him and apparently his family are the strong voice because i heard the family were

01:13:44.680 meeting at the weekend following this and i thought obviously thought i thought okay because

01:13:48.840 i'm a normal person and i have a normal family i thought to myself okay the family are going to

01:13:53.240 be thinking this is cruel you know this this old man needs to step aside so obviously they're going

01:13:58.680 to do the right thing for their family member no no the exact opposite what they did is so they're

01:14:04.040 milking his career for all it's worth yes so apparently the two strongest proponents are jill

01:14:08.360 who is presumably the acting president dr jill yeah and um biden uh sorry hunter biden convicted felon

01:14:18.440 hunter biden which if i can recall is the exact opposite of what happened four years ago because

01:14:24.600 i remember that she was saying that he should be a one-term president maybe i'm wrong yeah i think she

01:14:31.720 was saying that but she's got used to it now okay being first lady is a strong drug yeah yeah and also 0.98

01:14:40.280 the other thing of course is um a lot of people in the in the audience won't understand the point i'm

01:14:47.000 about to make but some of you really really will trying to convince an old person to leave their house 1.00

01:14:55.400 to to come at you know to to give up their house and move into all right better somewhere that can

01:15:02.120 really take care of them home yeah it's it it is the monster of all discussions to have with old 0.99

01:15:08.040 people so i can understand why jill and biden are like yeah no we're you know we're we're good

01:15:14.360 we're gonna say and and hunter obviously because i mean yeah you say convicted felon but tip of the

01:15:19.640 iceberg stuff i mean the thing he was convicted was it wasn't a gun charge or something yeah yeah he said

01:15:24.920 he wasn't a drug addict yeah bought the gun but that is tip of the iceberg compared to like all

01:15:29.480 the um but there's another hunter trial there's another hunter trial in a few months right yeah

01:15:33.960 for much more serious fraud allegations and and that's why he is obviously better off with his

01:15:39.320 dad being the president the power of immunity and all that kind of stuff well so you know his family

01:15:45.160 wants to keep him in and you know here's the other thing so the democrat um national committee so

01:15:50.600 the dnc apparently want to stamp out calls to replace joe biden by formally nominating him

01:15:56.280 in just a couple of weeks so they're they're trying to they're trying to put the lid on this and say no

01:16:01.800 no no he is he is the candidate i mean god bless the dnc god bless them they're great people for all

01:16:08.840 their all their fine work i mean they're they're trying to put and because there's a lot of conspiracy

01:16:13.960 isn't there but it's it's like okay did they put him up on an early debate so that they could then

01:16:19.320 swap him out they probably just put him on an early debate because they can see the rate of

01:16:24.760 cognitive decline and they didn't want to risk an extra few months so they thought we'd do it now

01:16:29.640 and let's hope yeah it's gonna be on a good he'd get through it and then we can then we can just like

01:16:34.600 put him in a basement like we did last time i'm not sure i'm not sure they've got sort of a great

01:16:39.480 grand plan an overarching sort of master plan or anything i think they're i would have thought

01:16:45.480 their calculation at the beginning when they was running against trump the first time was that he's

01:16:52.120 just a pliable puppet so even though it's embarrassing uh we can control him and that's

01:16:58.760 all that really matters and that's the calculation they've gone with up until very recently and now they

01:17:05.480 realize that actually he's he's dying or something um so we've got we've got to call an audible here

01:17:13.000 for americans we've got to change up the plan like on the flyer it's definitely breaking into camps all

01:17:20.200 over the place and even people on our side they're undecided so i mean here's david sachs who's pointing

01:17:25.880 out that you know there are three categories of president the two-term presidents the one-term president

01:17:30.440 and the president who resigns or steps aside in failure or disgrace why would biden choose category

01:17:36.680 three when category two is better and still has a one in three chance category one that's also the

01:17:41.880 question i'm asking because yeah he he could leave he could just say okay that's my term i did what i did

01:17:48.920 someone else take take place because he he doesn't seem to he he seems a bit exhausted let me put it this

01:17:55.400 week but the people the people who have access to him is obviously jill and his staff and they're

01:18:01.320 obviously the people who are really being the president who are really discharging the duties

01:18:05.640 of president why would you give up that power i mean what what better job do his staff have to go to

01:18:12.680 than exercising the duties of the office of the president in his in his absence and jill obviously

01:18:18.920 doesn't understand all the politics stuff so as long as she gets all the you know the goodies that 1.00

01:18:22.600 goes with it she's happy gets to redecorate the west wing yeah or whatever go to state dinners yeah

01:18:28.360 right yeah and kamala you know her her career or her her tenure as vp is directly tied to his mast

01:18:37.080 if he's removed yeah there will be an entirely new ticket yeah she almost certainly won't be picked

01:18:41.880 as vp on that new ticket yes so she wants to keep wheeling him out until the day he dies well well she

01:18:48.200 she might like the day he dies to come sooner rather than at this point which is one heartbeat

01:18:51.880 away from the big job herself right and it's probably not a desperately strong heartbeat but

01:18:56.200 anyway your opinions are divided on this tucker carlson is saying biden is done bet on it too

01:19:00.760 many prominent democrats have suggested he's brain damaged they can't walk that back and and and this

01:19:05.480 is the interesting question is and i'll pick right wingers for this viewpoint but you get this on the

01:19:09.320 left as well people are arguing back and forth about whether he's definitely done or he's definitely

01:19:14.120 staying i've got to say all right let's let's let's get on the record here if i had to if it was a

01:19:20.920 binary bet even odds i would go with him staying really yeah what would you go with i don't know

01:19:28.360 it's close at the moment yeah because i know a couple of things you know i'm only in my early 40s but

01:19:33.480 i've been around long enough to know the way that things go and when you hear certain things when you

01:19:38.440 hear the mainstream media saying certain things yes your ears prick up yeah so for example if the

01:19:44.840 pentagon or the state department say um chemical weapons have been used here or there you know

01:19:50.840 they're gearing up the war machine yeah right um when the mainstream media suddenly starts saying

01:19:57.640 um something like i saw this literally saw this on my phone popped up it said who is gavin newsom what

01:20:03.240 you need to know about gavin newsom they're grooming that person yeah for potentially for

01:20:09.480 at least a run at the top job so if you had to bet you'd say go

01:20:14.680 yeah i wouldn't want to put much money on it but yeah okay yeah which way are you going to go still

01:20:18.520 yours i i think that he is probably going to stay yeah but what tucker says there is true isn't it

01:20:26.360 when you get enough sort of very prominent people in the dnc and senators and congressmen

01:20:31.160 and they say joe is suffering from brain damage or something or or cognitive decline there is that

01:20:37.240 it's like yeah there's a critical mass that was that was kind of the narrative at first but

01:20:44.280 what i'm hearing now is they're all pivoting to one bad night and actually so what's one bad night

01:20:50.760 the narrative is now he had one bad night okay right the i the reason why i think he will stay is

01:20:56.360 because i think they know really well that the other candidates don't have the brand that biden

01:21:01.800 has well funny you mention that because that is that is exactly what uh the um the the biden campaign

01:21:07.400 have put out here basically they've been putting out these polls saying that biden does better

01:21:10.760 against trump than all of the alternatives i mean it's not the new it's not news they have been saying

01:21:16.200 this for years so but that's a harsh indictment of the democrats isn't it the leading lights the big

01:21:21.640 beasts in the democratic establishment that biden's still the best they've got well i'm not even sure

01:21:27.320 if that's true gavin newsom has got i hate gavin newsom i hate his politics yeah he's an american 0.65

01:21:31.720 psycho but sure yeah yeah but surely he's a better bet than biden well i didn't a dying old man so how

01:21:39.640 is newsom not better i've been fascinated with the logistics of this because a lot of people started

01:21:43.880 talking about the 25th amendment removing the president right but the problem with that is that you need

01:21:48.760 the vice president and the cabinet to agree to it and camilla would obviously agree to it but only

01:21:54.760 if she gets the job camilla yeah oh um oh camilla camilla camilla you're supposed to say it like

01:22:01.880 that that awful woman yeah so i mean she would she would be in favor of if she gets to be president you 1.00

01:22:07.160 know at least until the end of this term so that she she's got that but if if joe contests it if he

01:22:13.400 doesn't go along with it then you then need to take it to congress where it needs a two-thirds vote

01:22:19.080 so basically you need the gop to be in favor of it and they're obviously not going to do that so

01:22:23.640 the 25th is out i mean you could forget that that's not going to happen either joe steps down

01:22:28.120 voluntarily or not at all he does follow orders though doesn't he when the clintons and the obamas and

01:22:34.520 the podestors tell him to do something he just yeah maybe but it comes comes that way it comes back to

01:22:40.360 my point about gill and his staff who are who are exercising the duties of the office of the

01:22:44.440 president and they're the ones he listens to they're the ones that control access to him yeah

01:22:48.760 and they're gonna cling on for dear life exactly which is where i think it gets difficult and actually

01:22:54.040 it's more complicated than that because this is an interesting tweet from charlie kirk he points out

01:22:57.800 that actually it's already probably too late to remove joe biden from the ballot so wisconsin it's too

01:23:04.120 late to take him off the ballot right um nevada it's now too late to take him off the ballot and

01:23:09.720 georgia um you've only got um about another week from here um before it's too late to take him off

01:23:15.320 the ballot so if you're not already on the ballot um well you've got a problem so that brings me on

01:23:22.840 to actually i'll do a quick stelios tweet here hey i know this man great account follow yeah follow

01:23:30.520 stelios but he's responding here to the um you know the piers morgan tweet about you know newson will be

01:23:35.640 the candidate i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna come back to that shortly in a moment but the other

01:23:39.960 the other issue is um campaign money so joe obviously won't raise a lot more money from here

01:23:46.120 because the the donors are abandoning him however he has already raised a lot of money right and that

01:23:53.000 money isn't in a big pot that says democrat it's tied to the campaign so the ticket of biden and

01:24:00.600 camilla so if it's not camilla that money gets released and they have to raise all the money

01:24:06.360 again right so that that's another interesting thing um interestingly nixon there's a similar

01:24:13.240 thing yeah there's uh there'll be a committee for re-election right committee to re-elect the president

01:24:18.760 yeah yeah and it will have its own leadership team and its own bank account and all that sort of thing

01:24:24.920 which is yeah and that's separate from yeah it's its own ring fence thing so yeah that's that's an

01:24:30.280 interesting point actually so let's finish off on this because i do like a little bit of political

01:24:34.840 betting i i might have dabbled in this once or twice um joe is still the overwhelming favorite thank

01:24:41.880 goodness um to remain as uh the the democratic nominee going into november yeah gavin newsom is close

01:24:49.480 behind you you two like gavin newsom for this don't you we don't like him but you i mean

01:24:54.600 you like if i were a democrat i would say that he would be the the one i don't think it can be him

01:25:01.960 i feel like if it isn't biden for whatever reason it will be newsom but you said you don't necessarily

01:25:07.720 think that i i don't think it will be well we're gonna go with i don't i don't think no i don't think

01:25:12.360 it'll be gavin newsom because um the whole mantra of the democrat party is basically a coalition of the

01:25:19.720 fringes so diversities whatever and they try and include women in that but whatever it's a coalition 0.98

01:25:26.040 of the fringes against the white man so you're gonna you're gonna leapfrog a white man over camilla

01:25:33.160 and they're from the same state they're both from california so they can't both go on the ticket

01:25:37.720 so if newsom goes in that necessarily means that camilla is out i see the angle you're making but

01:25:45.560 camilla is extremely unpopular across the board right i think even within the democratic establishment

01:25:51.960 yeah but if you ditch her you ditch the money but they've raised so far right and also you've got the

01:25:56.360 optics of replacing a black woman with a white man yeah you know you've got issues with that the one i 0.97

01:26:04.600 actually think i mean there's there's a couple that makes sense i mean i don't like michelle obama for

01:26:09.320 this either because her only qualification is that she was married to a president well in that case why not

01:26:14.760 just have jill biden because not only was she married to a president but she actually discharged 1.00

01:26:19.080 the offices the duties of the offices of the president so she's actually been doing the job

01:26:23.000 so she's got experience hillary clinton obviously not camilla harris despite i mean she is by far

01:26:30.040 the easiest play to make here in terms of the logistics of it and the campaign money and the

01:26:36.200 nominations right she's just utterly unelectable i think she might have the top seat maybe she has 1.00

01:26:42.840 gavin newsom as her vp i don't know i think the michelle obama thing because they're both californian 1.00

01:26:48.280 all right yeah good point i'll also mention robert f kennedy right you know my point about how he's

01:26:55.080 if if you're not already on the ballot it's too late in three states already rfk is already on the ballot

01:27:02.520 so if the democrats could find it within themselves to swallow their pride massively

01:27:08.120 and probably fire a lot of people in the dnc and take rfk back and he could actually beat trump

01:27:16.440 potentially he could seems like a all those things that's a long shot in all sorts of for all sorts of

01:27:21.800 yeah but again it works on the i'm not i'm not talking about sure i'm all i'm talking about is the

01:27:26.680 logistics because this is actually quite a hard logistical task to replace biden at this point

01:27:30.840 so camilla and rfk are actually viable on that and we've got everybody else on the list i don't think

01:27:36.280 there's anyone else worth mentioning i've i've actually got a bet on um mark cuban i think mark

01:27:42.280 cuban could do it yeah right i think i mean he's he's he's a sort of billionaire candidate he he's got

01:27:49.720 the sort of moxie to take on somebody like trump and the main thing i like about it is i've got a 0.82

01:27:53.560 thousand to one so i make like 50 grand if if he um if if he becomes the democrat nominee so i quite

01:27:59.640 like that one so anyway that's the um that's that's the roundup of it stick in the comments who you

01:28:05.400 think might be um you know whether you think biden's going to stay or go and if he does go

01:28:10.600 who's going to replace him but you know um you know get those get those betting odds on on mark

01:28:15.400 cuban down for me right let's go to the comments we will take a few extra minutes to talk about to

01:28:21.880 view the okay okay okay okay okay i'll okay we we are told that we can't go over time we can have a

01:28:36.200 couple of video comments today as well yeah maybe we'll do them tomorrow yeah okay so uh lance newlin

01:28:43.880 any civilization that is unable to protect its young girls and defend their women is doomed to fail any

01:28:49.880 civilization that is unwilling to do so let alone encourage it deserves to fail i think that's

01:28:55.560 true but i would really introduce the qualification that the state isn't necessarily the civilization

01:29:04.760 so when states are repeatedly acting against their people it doesn't mean that it's the people's fault

01:29:13.480 lord nereva i usually try to leave a comment on each segment in the pod but the segment on germany

01:29:18.680 has left me utterly speechless barbarians someone online the government isn't threatened by unspeakable

01:29:26.040 things happening to young girls it is threatened by speech 0.84

01:29:33.720 should we go to some comments of your did you read them for me i haven't got the thing here so we

01:29:39.640 have o ph uk a quote by cicero salus populi suprema lex esto nice um we go to threadnaught who gave it

01:29:52.360 the nation on your segment debate moderator former president convicted felon hitler why did you mock a

01:30:01.160 disabled person trump because he's running against me for president next question

01:30:06.040 last peter simonson donald trump and jimmy carter are the only living former presidents who haven't

01:30:12.680 committed war crimes or crimes against humanity none of the others have been held responsible

01:30:19.160 arizona desert rat ah it was not a violent mob and stop calling it the darkest day in america with

01:30:25.240 as long as you have lived you know that there have been darker days i mean it kind of was the darkest

01:30:29.720 day because it didn't succeed do you want to read something just very quick kamala said it was as bad

01:30:35.800 or i think she said worse than 9 11 and pearl harbor january 6th what a thing to say yeah what a truly

01:30:43.880 morally disgusting thing to say yeah extraordinary um josie's angel says biden resigns camilla chokes on a

01:30:51.880 hot dog and hakem jeffries takes the presidency uh i don't i don't even know who hakem jeffries is maybe

01:30:57.640 maybe maybe i should um andrew narrog says tucker and several other conservative commentators are

01:31:04.040 rather on point when they state how disastrous these comments will be for biden they can't take

01:31:08.120 these back public comments on biden state both before and after the debate uh let's say that it

01:31:13.400 is jossie angels who made the donation and we have we thank you oh was it all right okay yes and

01:31:19.160 and andrew narrog is saying now that just josey's okay yeah andrew narrog says the what you said about

01:31:25.560 tucker and the other conservative commentators yes um az desert says biden didn't win his first

01:31:32.200 presidential run well yeah but i mean the system includes cheating now doesn't it so if you're

01:31:37.880 a republican you need to win by greater than the margin of cheating i mean it's just it's just just

01:31:42.680 how it works now isn't it so i heard someone say that when trump beat hillary they didn't cheat enough

01:31:47.800 and when biden beat trump they cheated too much yeah exactly and and so they've they've they've got to

01:31:53.400 try and get this exactly right for you know the next in fact it's bloody hard isn't it to get it

01:31:57.560 right for the next one because the amount of cheating you're gonna have to do is going to be

01:32:00.760 enormous i mean biden's going to need to go to what 106 million votes or something like that

01:32:06.440 uh what else have we got so uh baron von warhawk says sharp has attacked the president dear god

01:32:11.240 the copium is off the charts someone call 911 these people are going to overdose no no biden all the way

01:32:17.160 right and on that note our podcast has come to an end thank you very much dan for the catharsis of

01:32:23.960 your segment because our segments were a bit dark thank you all for being here and i hope i see you

01:32:31.160 tomorrow thank you very much and goodbye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #949

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