The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #952

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 9th of July 2024 and I am joined

00:00:15.840 by Esther Krakou, have I pronounced that correctly or have I got it wrong? Yeah good enough. That's

00:00:20.560 good enough for me and also Beau and today we are talking about the French election conspiracy which

00:00:27.460 you know it's not actually a conspiracy theory they just conspired to keep the right out. Again yes

00:00:35.120 we're going to be talking about or Beau will be talking about at least what is in store with Labour

00:00:40.780 and what they're already up to and then I'm going to be sort of reviewing the state of the world in

00:00:46.780 which the Labour Party has inherited what is the world that the Tories left behind after their 14

00:00:51.540 years of governance and how I think it's beyond parody how you can't even make it up and

00:00:56.980 I suppose I may as well begin actually no I have an announcement first to interrupt myself

00:01:02.620 we will be going back to US politics eventually we've been covering a lot of European politics

00:01:08.300 I know it's not everyone's cup of tea however obviously US elections coming up we're going

00:01:14.280 to be looking at that a lot more closely and I don't want you to feel like you're missing out

00:01:18.680 if you're in the US we haven't forgotten you don't worry also Samson is very insistent that I mention

00:01:26.600 rumble rants we're going to try this new thing where if you send in a comment through rumble

00:01:33.820 a rumble rant you know a super chat basically we will read it after the relevant segment and we're

00:01:40.980 also trying to leave a lot more time for the written comments on the website as well we're trying

00:01:44.800 to stay on time so we don't miss you out but anyway that's enough of me announcing stuff I suppose I

00:01:51.440 may as well actually talk about some politics and France so last month Macron took as the BBC put it

00:02:01.600 a huge risk with a surprise snap election and to be honest when he called this I was a little bit

00:02:08.800 quizzical I was thinking well hang on a minute national rally Macron's rivals had gained a lot

00:02:17.040 of seats in the EU parliament it seemed like he was set for a defeat and so him calling an election

00:02:23.200 didn't really make sense you normally call an election when you are ascendant not when you're

00:02:27.720 at your worst just after a defeat and so this surprised me and I think it surprised everyone I don't

00:02:34.140 know what both of you thought yeah for sure um you remember when Cameron lost the referendum yes and

00:02:41.340 just resigned that's a classic thing isn't it if you if you're so humiliated politically that you have

00:02:48.300 to either resign or call another election because you feel like you've actually lost your mandate

00:02:52.420 I my first thought was that that that was what was going through his mind oh I've sort of it's so

00:02:58.660 sort of undermined me politically that I feel obliged I have to and then there's other politicians

00:03:03.840 that are just completely shameless and will just live out their political career until the bitter

00:03:08.140 bitter bitter end so my first thought was that he just felt so undermined that he sort of had to

00:03:13.300 but I don't think that's what's going on I think there was there's some sort of 3d 4d chess going on

00:03:18.840 where he made calculations that well exactly what we've seen played out which you're going to talk

00:03:23.500 about over the next few minutes yes that there was something other than just the surface level

00:03:27.960 analysis going on that he thought we need to probably something along the lines of we need to try and

00:03:33.520 pull the legs out from under our opponents while we still can something like that I don't know

00:03:38.460 something like what Richard Sunak did I think he was the idea was to renew his mandate

00:03:41.820 because obviously you can't have national rally MEPs basically opposing the national agenda of the

00:03:48.700 French government that's a very it would be an inconsistent policy platform to try and run on

00:03:55.080 and to implement but this is the worst gamble because he got the worst of both ends because now there's a

00:03:59.300 parliament so I think his while his ambition was to kind of halt the right he now has to deal with

00:04:05.040 the left who are actually the ones rallying and setting cities on fire and all of that and you know

00:04:09.600 two years two years left of his presidency it was quite strange why would you want to take such a huge

00:04:13.860 risk that will make you a lame duck president but I think he was hoping he could clinch on

00:04:18.720 again to power to at least ride out the next two years of his of his presidency it's a gamble that I

00:04:24.700 suspected will fail and it has um when you listen to a lot of the things Macron says whenever he's

00:04:29.940 talking about foreign affairs you know he's in deep trouble that's that's the history of every

00:04:32.980 French president they never they never focus on domestic politics if they see an an opportunity to

00:04:38.280 take the center stage for like sort of more like foreign issues basically and that's basically what

00:04:42.580 he's done for the last 18 months particularly with Ukraine and Israel Gaza West Africa with all

00:04:47.300 the sort of former colonies basically breaking off um in a spectacular fashion so he kind of

00:04:53.380 wanted a way to reinvigorate his own national popularity which was never going to happen

00:04:56.780 I think it's definitely uh sort of an odd gamble and he's going to lose either way because as weak

00:05:02.720 and as globalist as Macron is the far left the actual sort of commies they hate him even they hate

00:05:09.780 him even more almost yeah and they're sort of even more cutthroat ruthless political enemies than

00:05:14.680 the right or the so-called right in France Marine Le Pen and that sort of thing they're even more

00:05:19.420 ruthless than she would be so um yeah it's not going to be a nice couple of years for Macron but

00:05:26.080 like who cares yeah deserves it right and his his formal reasoning for it was that he was saying to

00:05:33.120 the national rally voters I've heard your calls for an election because they were saying we need an

00:05:37.300 election now and I'm going to basically give it to you which you know in politics is unusual that you

00:05:42.960 grant charitable things to your opponents and I think this has all been part of a grand scheme from

00:05:49.180 Macron so but of course it was a gambit isn't it I'm going to give you the thing you want except

00:05:53.540 actually what's really happening is I'm going to make sure you're denied the thing you want well I

00:05:58.460 mean what he was really hoping for because you have to remember Macron basically in 2017 destroyed

00:06:02.980 the fringes so he destroyed the left and the right because his coalition was very much on the

00:06:07.200 center ground so he was hoping to kind of renew that coalition renew that like a bit of the leftist

00:06:11.400 and a bit of a rightist into a kind of a broad coalition that he could manage and that's what

00:06:15.080 failed because when you have the collapse of the center ground you empower the extreme left and the

00:06:19.220 extreme right and that's I don't think he really expected it to go this way and I also think he

00:06:23.880 underestimated how much the left particularly the Mélenchon's tribes hate him they despise him on on and if

00:06:30.200 you look at sort of the French markets even the inclination that Marine Le Pen would have won the second

00:06:34.060 round sent the market spinning right but no one ever guessed that this would happen with the left

00:06:38.000 that's that's that's the trick so they they were hoping I mean loads of these institutions were

00:06:43.380 hoping that Macron's gamble would pay off but I don't think anyone saw the left coming in the way

00:06:46.800 that they have absolutely but they're just captured as the BBC or Sky or anything oh yeah of course yes

00:06:52.480 but you're right so go on but um it's worth talking a little bit about the election itself because

00:06:58.700 there are three factions that you need to keep in mind in French politics you've got the left wing

00:07:04.680 particularly the new popular front you've got the centrists which you have the renaissance which

00:07:10.500 is the president Emmanuel Macron's party and then you have of course national rally on the right as well

00:07:17.200 and the actual process that goes on is there are two rounds of elections so the first round is in all

00:07:26.020 577 constituencies and this was called for the 30th of June and in this round to be secure as a candidate

00:07:37.440 to actually get your seat in the National Assembly you have to have more than 50% of the votes and have a

00:07:44.940 total greater than 25% of the registered electorate in the constituency vote for you so you know you also

00:07:53.040 have to rely on a decent turnout so only 76 candidates made it to the National Assembly from this and this

00:07:59.420 was from both the right and left and not the centrist of how many sorry again roughly it's 577

00:08:05.140 577 so it's not very many but it was looking really good for Le Pen because her party seemed to mop up

00:08:14.100 here they seemed to get more seats than anyone else relative to although the left did better than

00:08:19.540 Macron's party and his faction as well so this left 506 seats for the 7th of July runoff election

00:08:26.400 and both Jean-Luc Mélenchon the head of the NFP the left-wing party and Macron discussed the

00:08:36.200 importance of keeping the right out of the National Assembly which I thought was interesting because

00:08:42.580 they're both saying the same thing at the same time you're doing better off keeping doing that

00:08:47.220 deal with Le Pen actually than Mélenchon but I mean it's two sides of the same bum isn't it

00:08:53.240 it is yeah I mean very economically left-wing well all of French politics is left-wing even the so-called

00:08:59.220 far-right are basically socialist to my mind socialist nationalists yeah national socialist one might say

00:09:06.000 yeah so before the 2nd of July deadline for the registration of candidates in this runoff election

00:09:14.000 218 candidates dropped out now this is unusual this doesn't normally happen in French elections

00:09:22.080 so 130 belonged to the new popular front and 82 belonged to Macron's faction so you know that's

00:09:32.000 the vast majority of them right and there seems to have been some sort of agreement behind the scenes

00:09:38.080 to consolidate the left and centrist vote against the right it seems like that's what's happened they've

00:09:43.520 agreed they've looked at the data in the polling and they've said okay well we're not going to

00:09:48.140 contest you and and you won't contest us so we can keep the right out which is part of the reason why

00:09:53.660 I think both of them were saying we need to keep the right out and that's exactly what has happened

00:09:58.080 actually despite being the favorites the right have now come third in the election because of this

00:10:06.380 method and this is perfectly legal um this is which I find that's that's probably the most perverse

00:10:11.960 aspect of French politics because you've actually had results like this in previous elections and

00:10:16.820 it's something that I I think really manipulates the the will of the people in a very um on just

00:10:23.880 unfair way you can't I don't think you should be allowed to drop out for the second round personally

00:10:28.740 because I think that that puts too much power in the hands of the leaders that are trying to

00:10:33.500 manipulate election results and I think that's something I you know that's something that you're

00:10:37.180 going to hear more and more now um uh what's her name Le Pen has been very you know gracious about

00:10:43.060 this and said this is just a setback it's not a total defeat she still did win the majority of MEPs

00:10:47.240 um but I I do think tactics like this only heighten um sort of national tension as opposed to

00:10:53.200 decrease it and you're going to see more like sort of extremist politics embedded in the system

00:10:57.760 because they're thinking what's the point if if our vote doesn't matter then we're going to find

00:11:01.580 another means to try and influence uh the actions of politicians and I think that's really unhelpful

00:11:05.940 well that's exactly it and it also undermines the the sort of spirit of democracy doesn't it that if

00:11:10.780 if someone can fool around behind the scenes and alter the results of an election in quite a radical

00:11:16.060 fashion well all of a sudden it doesn't feel like uh the decision is up to your ordinary working

00:11:22.420 person who is turning out to vote it feels like it's up to uh party machines it's farcical how can you

00:11:29.020 criticize other people so how can you criticize the russians democracy when this is this is what

00:11:32.520 your democracy looks like exactly yeah to put it in the most kind way possible it's sort of

00:11:37.720 gerrymandering but I think you're much more accurate by calling it sort of a perverse yeah it's perverse

00:11:44.840 yeah it's uh it's not in the spirit of the whole point of having a democracy um yeah it's disgusting

00:11:52.560 and they'll stop absolutely nothing because I think they've I'm pretty sure they've done it before

00:11:56.220 yeah oh it's happened many times and like in Germany they like the other parties say um we'll

00:12:02.180 create any kind of coalition we need to keep AFD out in Holland they're doing anything they possibly

00:12:07.860 can to keep Gert Wilders out of being the head of government well even even the coalition that's

00:12:12.120 formed in in the Netherlands yeah one of the terms of there being a coalition of the right is that

00:12:17.960 uh Villers won't be prime prime minister yeah and in Britain they'll do the same thing if it was

00:12:23.420 sort of if there was if we had a hung parliament next time and it was possible that reform could

00:12:28.480 make some sort of coalition government I bet everything I own the other parties will just

00:12:32.340 will just rule out working with them yeah uh because it boils down to ideology they see them as the right

00:12:38.560 therefore evil and they'll stop at nothing to keep them out the whole point of a democracy is the

00:12:44.960 battle of ideas right you can't blame and this is where I think this is where a lot of kind of

00:12:50.560 the national discourse really kind of loses uh any sort of sense if your argument is that people

00:12:56.500 voting for the the the RN are horrible and racist and all of that you need to beat them with better

00:13:02.840 ideas you need to treat their concerns like they matter you need to validate the things that they're

00:13:06.700 saying you need to stop treating them like a bunch of cavemen with no sense in their brains and then

00:13:11.680 you can actually beat the the the sort of toxic ideas that you don't want to be implemented in

00:13:15.900 parliament but that's not what they're doing they're not even bothering they're just going to

00:13:18.840 manipulate the election results and the will of the people in this way and you're just going to

00:13:22.500 make the problem worse you're kicking the can down the road if you have such a problem with

00:13:25.980 Marine Le Pen's party why are you not taking the French's the French's concern on immigration

00:13:30.000 seriously I mean her policy economically is very left-wing I mean it's it's it's pretty it's

00:13:35.660 pretty socialist I mean she's they're handing out money that doesn't exist um France's debt to GDP

00:13:40.860 ratios has been above 100 for the for for well over like two decades now there are serious

00:13:47.760 problems with with with the um social and economic situation in France and yet they're not arguing on

00:13:52.740 those fronts they're not saying we understand you we're going to make it better we're saying oh

00:13:55.320 you're horrible racist so what 33 percent of the country are just racist overnight does that make

00:13:59.540 sense to anyone and it's like the same thing with people in Britain oh suddenly four million people

00:14:03.840 in the UK just happen to become racist just like the millions in Spain and Poland and and Belgium

00:14:08.340 and Netherlands and Germany and France that suddenly became racist overnight it doesn't make sense

00:14:12.480 mm-hmm yeah they've conflated sort of having a self-interest with being racist haven't they

00:14:17.800 that's what it is now so um yeah but what you said the boogeyman what you've said there is sort of

00:14:23.640 based on uh reason and these people aren't reasonable people are they yeah again no they're sort of

00:14:30.280 implacable they'll stop at nothing there's nothing too uh shameless for your average socialist or

00:14:35.520 communist but there's there's that and also it's a boogeyman strategy that's effectively

00:14:40.640 eventually going to lose its potency I mean I just I just got back from Ghana I went for a few

00:14:45.140 weeks to celebrate my mom's birthday and I think look at how people live and they're living because

00:14:49.900 of actions of people that look like them at some point people are going to realize that actually

00:14:54.260 if the worst thing if I have decent infrastructure and good health care and housing and all of these

00:14:58.280 things and the worst thing I have to contest with is someone who doesn't like me because of the

00:15:00.760 color of my skin I'm all right I'm fine because there are people that are living in much worse states

00:15:05.180 perpetrated by by politicians that look exactly like them so it's people are going to to get a

00:15:11.520 sense of of of reality and and and contextualize actually the situation they're living in and more

00:15:17.100 and more people are going to end up lurching to the right which is what has happened in Britain not

00:15:20.360 because they've suddenly discovered that their racist great grand-uncars inspire them again but

00:15:25.020 because it doesn't make sense and it's not how to actually conduct productive national discourse

00:15:28.880 absolutely so the um pm also went to resign after these recent results which macron has stopped yeah

00:15:39.480 and I thought this was quite interesting because it again feeds into this notion that macron had a plan

00:15:46.360 all along and this is clearly part of it and I don't necessarily um know quite why he's stopping

00:15:53.200 them but I think part of the reason is that um the new popular front because they uh pretty much won

00:16:00.160 the election in sort of quotation marks no one actually won yeah yeah but they they at least won

00:16:07.340 enough that they can earn the right to pick the next prime minister um perhaps it's macron saying hang

00:16:13.800 on a minute stay stay on for a little bit otherwise they'll get their prime minister that's my

00:16:19.360 understanding I don't know um yeah I suspect this is probably going to go on

00:16:23.140 until after the olympics actually keeping this with the caretaker prime minister in place until

00:16:27.940 some sort of agreement can be wrangled um I wouldn't I wouldn't even be surprised if they

00:16:31.840 have another election to be honest that's not outside the realm of possibility um but the question

00:16:37.740 is what are people willing to give and I think they're lying in bed with their worst enemy I actually

00:16:42.800 think macron would have been a lame duck president regardless but I think he would have been a lame

00:16:46.320 duck president able to secure more um compromises from lupin's side than from

00:16:52.480 lupin's side and I think he's learning about the hard way yeah and um I'm not a fan of the guy but

00:16:57.420 I can at least acknowledge that he's got some while about him to have done this it'll be very

00:17:03.340 deliberate yeah all that won't have been by accident that you offer you tender your resignation and I'll

00:17:09.140 refuse to accept it yeah it's obviously deliberate and just remember for anyone who doesn't know that

00:17:13.520 the prime minister in France isn't the same as our prime minister they're a republic like the united

00:17:18.060 states so the head of government is the president macron our head of government is the prime

00:17:22.680 minister head of state is the king but so their prime minister is something like people probably

00:17:28.560 pull me up on this for being very accurate but yeah it's something like the leader of the congress

00:17:33.800 or something in america something like that head of the legislature um so it's not such a big deal as

00:17:40.060 maybe it first seems when you hear prime minister it's not as senior it's not as senior a position as it

00:17:45.820 might be in other countries that are headed by a prime minister right that's all yeah but um some

00:17:51.260 of the projections um because we're still not entirely certain at the time of recording exactly

00:17:56.660 what the numbers are things are still coming out we just have a sort of rough idea of what's going on

00:18:01.140 so this is the the sort of spread of the seats the potential of what people are going to get so it

00:18:07.600 does seem like the left have won by a small margin but it's certainly not resounding and you see this

00:18:13.940 three-way split don't you between the different parties um where you've got the three different

00:18:19.460 factions and it's probably going to result in some form of political deadlock unless more

00:18:24.760 underhanded things carry on but i've seen lots of people commenting and i've not been able to verify

00:18:30.060 this yet um i've been looking online quite a lot but um i've seen people talking about it at least

00:18:36.260 saying that um 9.3 million voted um rn the the far right in quotation marks today 5.1 million voted um

00:18:45.600 nfp the socialists today um people of france wanted a right-wing government to put france first instead

00:18:51.480 they're getting the opposite and uh yes if this is true well this undermines the whole democratic

00:18:58.920 mandate that they're meant to have in in a democracy to to govern because of course when

00:19:05.020 the right-wing party gets almost double the votes of the left-wing party and the left-wing party wins

00:19:10.880 then what exactly are you voting for the system sophisticated manipulation it is yeah exactly that

00:19:17.760 have you seen um people online i've seen a lot of twitter accounts being like yeah the left one this

00:19:22.640 is what happens when good versus evil or some rubbish like that and i just think wow so you're suddenly

00:19:27.140 an expert on french french politics like a few months ago you were scared to define what a woman was

00:19:32.000 this is this is interesting such a broad area of expertise now just people just i know both sides

00:19:37.160 gloat when they get a win yeah but it does seem to me obviously i'm biased it does seem to me that

00:19:43.300 left-wing gloating is particularly obnoxious sanctimonious yeah sanctimonious yeah when it comes

00:19:48.560 from sort of dysgenic freaks as well it's just it's just extra annoying right it's just rooted in

00:19:53.260 ignorance really oh yeah okay starma showed you know the tories what's i mean this man what if you

00:19:57.980 votes in jeremy corbyn that on on both occasions i i don't really see what's to gloat about yeah well

00:20:04.840 it's frustrating as well that they use the language that seems like it's taken from george lucas's star

00:20:10.740 wars like oh good versus evil you know it the world's not like that really is it it's a bit more

00:20:16.880 complicated than that also um leo kiss of gb news who also of course comes on this show quite a lot

00:20:22.140 is talking about a similar thing um saying that the far right actually won three million more votes

00:20:29.000 and were only kept from power so um he seemed to have found some sources here that have suggested

00:20:34.620 the same thing but i still don't know yet it's it's sort of all smoke and mirrors and i probably

00:20:41.340 shouldn't even be sort of talking about it yet because we don't know for certain but i just thought

00:20:46.000 it was interesting and it's something important to put people's attention towards because of course

00:20:51.760 france is supposedly one of the leading western powers uh supposedly a democracy and uh you think

00:21:00.700 it would be quite important to the the geopolitics of the world if this sort of thing becomes common

00:21:05.820 place and parties get a significant number of votes and don't win the election it's a bit bizarre

00:21:12.620 really i don't know for how many years the french have to put up with their cities being set on fire at

00:21:17.820 the drop of a hat i know yeah well it's vote someone in who says they'll do something about it

00:21:23.180 look i do think there's something to be said about not elections not being decided on plurality

00:21:28.940 strictly like i do think there's something quite admirable about the u.s model and the fact that it's

00:21:33.120 based on the electoral college and that it gives states equal weight um equal weighting so because

00:21:38.220 if that wasn't the case then democrats would win the popular would win every single time because

00:21:42.320 they always win the popular vote they've won the popular vote for the last four or five election cycles

00:21:45.800 so i do think there's something to be said about that however the the the way you design your

00:21:50.920 electoral system has to in a significant way reflect the will of the people i think this is too far

00:21:55.700 this is such a perverse way of of being able to interpret or manipulate uh election results and

00:22:01.680 effectively the the will of the people that i think it's counterproductive uh i i also have a

00:22:07.120 problem with the first pass post system because i think there's there's there's nothing reflective

00:22:10.780 about four million votes and five mps versus three million votes and 72 mps i think that's

00:22:15.620 taking the mickey and i think that also it's it it doesn't really reflect on a national level any

00:22:20.700 anything of any significant importance because i don't see why your vote has to be tied to the

00:22:25.700 constituency that you live in i think that if you're living in a council flat in in in i don't know

00:22:30.960 wiltshire for instance or in a council flat in hampshire i don't see why that makes a difference

00:22:34.360 you're still a british citizen you're still paying taxes to the british state it should have equal

00:22:38.360 weighting um but i think this is just what what's happening in france it's just ridiculous and it's

00:22:44.280 incredibly frustrating i couldn't put it better myself and the people who have been empowered from

00:22:49.400 macron's dodgy dealings i suppose we can call it people like this um this is the leader of french

00:22:56.660 antifa um antifa of course known for uh leading the left in political violence uh rafael arnaud um

00:23:05.860 and he is classified as s a threat to the french state by security services and yet he is a member

00:23:11.860 of the of the national assembly um which i think is absurd that this can be allowed to happen

00:23:18.240 because he's part of a group that um by the way antifa in britain in 2004 um there was a dawn raid

00:23:25.520 in the uk and we just arrested them all and now they're a political non-entity you know that we

00:23:30.760 don't have antifa really here and uh funny how that works why someone has to say they're not a fascist

00:23:36.400 like okay not japanese like why does that need to be said i know it's it's not a well when when

00:23:44.360 everyone to the right of joseph stalin is a fascist then yeah it i suppose it means it looks like sean

00:23:49.440 penn with downs that's a good point i'd see that a slight nose job yeah you're right so but again

00:23:58.260 what a perverse thing that you've got actually a really a domestic terrorist essentially yeah um

00:24:02.940 that they can win a popular vote and that there's no law preventing them from actually then taking

00:24:08.180 that seat odd an odd thing strange so we've also got uh the leader of the left-wing faction

00:24:16.220 planning to freeze food prices and give away 300 billion euros which um by the way freeze putting

00:24:23.600 price caps on things freezing prices doesn't interesting where they'd find it that 300 billion

00:24:28.000 yeah i'm just curious there are a lot of sofas sofa cushions in france to turn over to get all

00:24:33.700 that money um but yeah you only need to look at new york and rent caps to see that capping prices

00:24:40.320 doesn't work it's economically illiterate in my opinion and uh yeah it's just going to mean that

00:24:45.800 there's going to be less food in france that's what's going to happen because there's going to be

00:24:49.040 no reason to send it there because it makes it less profitable if it's less profitable i'm always

00:24:53.200 curious by people that because obviously people like this would wouldn't have any sort of appeal

00:24:57.280 if the general public knew the economic illiteracy of any sorts of caps like food caps and rent caps

00:25:03.100 and all of that i always question is it the people are not they don't know that it doesn't make sense

00:25:09.120 and won't work do they know and don't care do they think it's all a conspiracy because people talk about

00:25:14.000 like people living in echo chambers and they just want to hear what they want to hear but if someone

00:25:18.080 said that okay you're poor i'm just going to print more money and give it to you i know that's

00:25:22.400 economically illiterate because you haven't actually given me anything of value you just printed more paper i'd be

00:25:26.260 better off selling loo roll right but people like this i think actually yes well who hasn't why don't

00:25:30.980 they just give away 300 billion euros of worth of free stuff why didn't anyone think of that i just

00:25:36.600 think what is stopping the the political elites from getting to these people are they just unappealing

00:25:43.480 are they just kind of bought into the whole conspiracy of like the nonsensical i don't understand it

00:25:48.200 personally well i think that um that there's there's two different layers here from the left wing

00:25:53.560 you know quite the far you know these people who are quite far left should i say they're sort of true

00:25:59.200 believers in their ideology however people in that are ruling things the elite see these sorts of things

00:26:05.780 as an opportunity if you make the cost of living for your average person more and more then it's

00:26:13.340 easier to extract resources from them it is and i think that a lot of economic policy in the modern day

00:26:18.280 in modern western democracies is just about resource extraction to elites and that's why there's all

00:26:23.560 this big money in politics is they're trying to rig the economy in their favor so that they can steal

00:26:29.900 from ordinary working people as i see it well i think that's maybe that's where what fuels the

00:26:34.540 conspiracies most people think it's all about just taking more from them so it's like if you're giving

00:26:38.660 back to them it's like oh there must be this magic tree where all this money is that's where you're

00:26:42.820 getting it from me and from the billionaires and tax the rich or the eat the rich or i don't remember what

00:26:46.920 it is now but actually the the economics of it is far more complicated and it's like that's not sexy

00:26:52.640 how do you run a campaign on like common sense economics or like actual basic economics well

00:26:57.240 mille did it in argentina he's also mad i mean he's like he's true he's like he's right on most

00:27:02.300 things but you know he looks like he looks like he belongs in like is it ned zeppelin or something

00:27:06.800 they're one of my favorite bands yeah something like he's he's like he's a mad man like i mean he's

00:27:12.280 right but he had to like put on this kind of costume in a way to to break through like he's

00:27:19.600 kind of a mad scientist that's right if he was a boring economist no one would have listened to him

00:27:24.340 that's true yeah i think the psychology particularly of left-leaning people is just extremely

00:27:29.140 short-sighted just this is good for me in the immediate so do that thing and yeah the idea of

00:27:35.960 fixing prices always always always without fail ends in disaster without fail it does not work

00:27:43.940 it cannot work because you're setting an upper limit you're setting an upper cap basically if you

00:27:48.340 this is the thing there's no incentive to drive prices down it's the state getting in the way of

00:27:52.940 the markets um in the most direct way it just doesn't work mal tried it during the great leap forward

00:27:59.240 and just after the great leap forward ended in famine going back to justinian the first

00:28:03.880 in the late roman period he tried he tried price fixing and it ends in disaster every single time

00:28:10.300 and yet you still get people like this guy or corbyn um saying let's do it let's try it and um

00:28:17.280 well it hasn't tried and it doesn't work yeah it's just so stupid real price caps have been tried

00:28:22.980 i think we don't talk about it in context of society and who's losing out on what if you if the

00:28:28.500 government says okay we're going to price fix this okay the difference must be made somewhere

00:28:31.900 are you happy like if they contextualize it as okay we're going to fix prices on i don't know

00:28:36.680 parsley for the next year but as a result your grandmother's pension the value of her real pension

00:28:41.360 goes down by 20 are you happy with that if you put it in the context of actual world winners and

00:28:46.240 losers that's when people would understand it better but we don't really have that because our

00:28:49.680 political discourse hasn't is not as sophisticated enough for that and you always have to have some

00:28:54.620 sort of gimmick and like a tagline and all of that you're like a performer and i find that really

00:28:59.460 frustrating loads of lefties particularly young lefties if you said look we'll give everyone a

00:29:03.900 rebate everyone gets four thousand pounds back but you'll have no army for the next 20 years

00:29:08.560 you can bet your bottom dollar a lot of young lefties would be like i'll take the money

00:29:12.000 i don't care it doesn't matter to me exactly we're far enough from russia

00:29:15.000 so dumb so short-sighted so i'm going to skip over these two links because i'm running it a bit short

00:29:20.520 on time but despite um the left winning there for some reason were riots anyway i mean it is a

00:29:28.020 national pastime in france at this point so it is part of their culture uh well and apparently

00:29:32.540 islamist as well oh i don't know what just happened there but uh oh there we go so yes they're throwing

00:29:38.860 molotov cocktails uh islamists and antifa at french police in nantes um looks pretty fascist to me

00:29:45.700 it is yeah it's it's political violence and there's they're not even doing it for any particular

00:29:50.160 reason it's just like we've won so let's you know throw some molotovs which is not good for anyone

00:29:55.220 really not even the people doing it and uh here again the far left um rioting i'll see if i can

00:30:02.000 play this it's funny though isn't it when like a sorry play it though oh it's funny though when uh

00:30:06.680 when you win something like sometimes a sports team will win and they write yeah i think

00:30:11.680 they're finished that once they won something and still rioted over turning cars and stuff

00:30:17.640 um but yeah because it's what they do it's in their dna they've got they've got no other sort

00:30:23.160 of form of expression really and um maybe flogging a bit of a dead horse to say this but

00:30:27.820 what an odd sort of bedfellows leftists socialists communists are and islamists or islam politics of

00:30:35.240 convenience isn't it because of course a proper communist a real socialist would be atheist

00:30:39.640 that's sort of hard baked into that also the islamic world has quite a good memory and they'll

00:30:44.520 remember fighting the the soviet union wouldn't they yeah yeah well they remember battles in the

00:30:50.060 seventh century don't still cry about them quite literally as well that's not just being mean quite

00:30:54.540 literally cry about them um so yeah if you'd asked me or anyone really sort of i don't know even 15

00:30:59.720 years ago maybe 20 years ago or before in the future we're going to see sort of um some sort of

00:31:05.740 melding between leftism hard leftism and islam no one would have believed you they'd say that's

00:31:11.420 nonsense why would that happen and yet here we are i suppose they see that their their mutual enemy

00:31:17.240 is i don't know nationalism like western european nationalism or patriotism or something i mean

00:31:23.620 they've been presented a gift in the form of gaza so that's some that's something that's kind of

00:31:27.760 united them on in one way but yeah the the kind of this uncomfortable what i find uncomfortable

00:31:32.720 coalition between like far left extremists and and islamists in france is very strange um because

00:31:39.660 the kind of things that underpin western democracies like equal rights the rights of women uh the rights

00:31:46.320 of sexual minorities and all of that they're as diametrically opposed as they come but for for

00:31:51.100 stuff like this this there's somehow a community like macron not not the rights of women and girls or

00:31:55.820 sexual minorities or ethnic minorities in general it's macron is the enemy that's what really matters

00:32:00.640 toppling this this this this man with his grandmother wife it's the it's the sort of

00:32:07.720 cynical maxim of the enemy of my enemy is my friend yeah not always not it's funny that the leftists

00:32:12.480 think that leftists think they will be able to control the islamists yeah we'll use the islamists

00:32:18.380 as sort of our shock troops or something and then when it really comes down to it we'll be able

00:32:22.460 to control them no you won't gonna go the other way they'll owe us because we we liberalize them

00:32:27.780 or we freed them yeah it's very misguided here i think i can only presume this is an anti-dutch hate

00:32:32.560 crime because they're burning bicycles i don't know why i don't know what bicycles have done to

00:32:38.660 them why is this necessary i don't know what are you achieving what are they achieving and are these

00:32:42.500 like you they're just filled with resentment and hate that's all it is isn't it yeah i think it's

00:32:47.780 exactly that isn't it because when i win something i don't tend to go out and burn bicycles um i don't

00:32:54.780 know about anyone else if you want to do that as long as it's your own bicycle fair enough just don't

00:32:59.640 burn other people's but air pollution like where where is just up oil yeah that's true we should

00:33:04.420 send them over there say go on sort them out and they'll get molotov cocktailed um and then the final

00:33:09.600 one i just wanted to show this uh here is the aftermath of their victory so this is uh a good

00:33:16.140 uh inkling as to how the country will look afterwards or um after all of this far left

00:33:22.040 political influence because of course this will become more common it's not like it will be

00:33:25.560 punished because it's their faction doing it and if we've learned anything from you know 2020 america

00:33:30.780 you don't punish the you know the rioters that are on your side that's a very counterproductive

00:33:36.940 the argument is that the average citizen is losing out i mean the amount of time and money and

00:33:42.320 resources that has to be spent cleaning that up could actually be spent on like i don't know

00:33:45.880 in the education system or in health care or social security it's a manifestation of

00:33:51.060 mental illness basically i think but congregation of the mentally unwell yeah well that's uh left-wing

00:33:58.220 politics personified there but um yes obviously things not looking good in france um it is probably

00:34:05.020 not going to get better it's probably going to get worse even though the country resoundingly voted for

00:34:09.280 the right they got the left uh which is the opposite um of what they wanted macron obviously did some very

00:34:14.880 uh elaborate positioning to make this happen and uh yes it seems like all of it was legal and they

00:34:21.520 can get away with it and it's happened so uh yes not looking good the other side of the english channel

00:34:27.180 all right we have a uh comment here that i can't see oh there it is uh oh no never mind i just can't read

00:34:40.280 just switch our our eye of sauron over to labor and just start dunking on labor for the next five years

00:34:46.860 the rationale of this and i spoke to you earlier about this is that the tories are sort of we we've

00:34:52.840 beaten them in a fight and they're sort of bleeding out in the corner and to be ignored which is perhaps

00:34:57.680 not the best analogy for the youtube terms of service but it is an analogy it's not actual

00:35:02.800 violence you can only slay one dragon at a time really well where reform were in the polls before

00:35:08.160 this election they were never going to be the government this time so it was all about sending

00:35:12.940 a message to the tories and trying to sort of wound them as much as possible politically

00:35:17.120 um uh which has happened so hopefully as we say if they're not actually dead

00:35:22.720 metaphorically hopefully they are at least bleeding out and won't recover certainly not do not resuscitate

00:35:29.500 yeah yeah yeah a non-resuscitation order on the on the tory party so now labor so let's talk about

00:35:37.120 you know not much time has passed so they haven't really had enough time really it's quite often we

00:35:42.620 always talk about the first hundred days that's almost a truism always the cliche isn't it what a

00:35:46.720 government can or can't get done in the first hundred days have we got that from the americans

00:35:51.220 um it's been around for a long time i think we've both just been saying it for years and years now

00:35:55.660 um so quite often you'll see after the first hundred days there'll be headlines saying

00:35:59.400 what has starma done in his first hundred days like blair famously had an amazing first hundred

00:36:04.920 days brown had a terrible first hundred days anyway they haven't had very long but still we are

00:36:10.340 beginning to see some of the things they're doing or rather failing to do right away so let's start

00:36:16.620 with foreign policy we've now got david lammy one of the dumbest adults i've sort of ever seen

00:36:24.000 is now our foreign famously went on mastermind and didn't get didn't get a single question on his

00:36:30.580 specialist topic he chose the topic for the questions and still got none right nothing about

00:36:35.160 contemporary history um and on his general knowledge one was it was laughable it was laughable

00:36:40.560 there were questions designed for little kids on the celebrity mastermind they're pretty easy

00:36:45.380 questions they're much much easier than the normal mastermind anyway if anyone wants to see

00:36:48.940 david lammy attempting to go on uh or was going on celebrity mastermind and attempting to answer

00:36:54.720 the questions it is laughable some of the things he said like common sense stuff i would be worried for

00:36:59.320 him if and when trump becomes president because trump doesn't forget anything and having this man

00:37:04.200 sitting there squirming under trump's critical eye would be this i mean i will work overtime now

00:37:09.240 just just just just to enjoy that there's also that the case of david lammy when he was saying i've

00:37:14.640 not seen any police officers and there was one stood right behind him live in shot in shot over his

00:37:19.620 shoulder yeah now he's really really done we say this about all sorts of people they're incompetent

00:37:23.920 they're stupid they don't know what they're doing this guy is genuinely stupid

00:37:28.140 one of those sometimes you meet an adult and you think how have you not understood things how do you

00:37:34.500 how do you not have sort of the baseline general knowledge that a child would have about certain

00:37:39.360 things but that's who he is and so he's our foreign secretary one of the top three or four

00:37:44.260 uh secretaries of state in our country and if any americans don't know it's the equivalent of the

00:37:49.460 state department so andrew uh anthony blinking is there so he's the top diplomat after the prime minister

00:37:55.740 and perhaps the king he's supposed to be the the top most important ambassador for the whole of

00:38:01.500 britain yeah and it's a pure embarrassment so anyway um it's also um i know it's not necessarily a

00:38:09.260 very politically correct thing to bring up but he is a black man who will be going to places like

00:38:14.940 china and saudi arabia who will not treat him equally to that of a white man they'll ignore that won't

00:38:22.220 they yeah it's one of the unfortunate things true bigotry in other places in the world is allowed

00:38:28.520 isn't it i mean it's something that people get uncomfortable when i say it but i always say like

00:38:32.240 you know my family's been to china um mainly for business but on two separate occasions and i and i

00:38:37.440 just think i i i know yes there are races in the uk but like let's contextualize it the uk is one of

00:38:44.080 the best i mean the uk and canada are one of the best in terms of integration of people from

00:38:47.980 different countries depending on their values of course than any other country like in in places

00:38:52.140 like china and russia they don't even hide it they don't care it's and it's so in your face and i

00:38:56.960 always think someone like him and i hope he doesn't have a negative experience because of course i don't

00:39:00.880 watch that on anyone but someone like that if he did have a negative experience will still come back

00:39:04.400 to the uk and act like they're like sort of you know racist at his door like that are trying to

00:39:09.040 club it down and i'm like you can't say that some things are good like you can show appreciation you

00:39:13.880 can't say something positive about the country that you're representing it's okay from time to time you can't

00:39:17.560 tell the truth once in a while particularly as a foreign secretary as i say you're sort of well

00:39:21.240 you are the top ambassador really the top diplomat is what you are as the foreign secretary all

00:39:27.300 diplomacy is done through the foreign and commonwealth office so as the head of that department that's

00:39:31.620 what he is um he did play the race card almost immediately within a day or 48 hours of becoming

00:39:37.420 in government started talking about race needlessly uh but anyway um so the first thing on foreign

00:39:44.880 policy is the spectre of quote unquote resetting tires with the with the eu of course labour and

00:39:53.360 lots of people on that side of the aisle that side of the equation um didn't ever want to leave

00:39:59.780 they thought it was sort of a betrayal of almost the post-war consensus to even have a referendum that

00:40:06.540 david cameron was insane for even putting it to the people and the fact that he then lost or the

00:40:11.940 pro-eu types lost they've never come to terms with it have they absolutely never come to terms with

00:40:16.480 it you see it on uh i hate to bring it up on twitter all the time don't you have people

00:40:20.380 in their names like rejoin the eu and it's so common and it's it's bizarre that they're still

00:40:26.660 clinging on to it i mean up until a few years ago that was like kistama's reason for existing

00:40:31.600 trying not not even like trying to get a new referendum forget invalidating the last one trying

00:40:37.600 to get a new referendum so that we can rejoin the eu they're like the remainers annoying cousins

00:40:42.100 the rejoiners yeah and he had to shut up about that since rejoiners re-moaners if you remember

00:40:47.020 change uk that sort of literally kind of traitorous party that went behind the government's back and

00:40:52.060 tried to negotiate with europe while we were still in the process of leaving and all that sort of

00:40:55.960 thing there's massive rejoin movements mostly among well i won't i won't go down that route but um

00:41:02.920 there is a there is a call for it and so just before the election car starmer did go on record

00:41:07.960 and say something along the lines of i don't see britain rejoining sort of formally completely

00:41:12.560 rejoining the eu in my lifetime or something like that he said sort of ruled it out but now sort of

00:41:18.680 straight away they're sort of starting to make noises about it so you can just see there that it was

00:41:23.740 we're going to reset tires because there are there are many layers many shades of gray to being

00:41:30.160 quote unquote in europe there's one thing to be a full member of the european union and the european

00:41:35.760 parliament but there's many layers aren't there like the free movement zones whether you're in the

00:41:39.860 single currency there's at least three or four different layers to it and uh when you really

00:41:45.500 peel the onion and look at it in detail there's many more layers um so they want to they were they're

00:41:51.680 just saying if you look at the other the next uh link there just the idea that they were saying now

00:41:56.700 the argument that the the deal we finally brokered with europe was sort of botched it was a botched

00:42:02.540 deal and we need to look at everything again and get it right this time basically meaning they're just

00:42:10.380 going to draw us much much closer to the eu now whether that is actually completely rejoining it i

00:42:16.060 don't know the noises things they're saying right now doesn't seem to be that that's what they're going

00:42:21.240 but if they were doing that they're making the right steps to sort of set that up in a year or two

00:42:27.600 or four or whatever which is ironic because there are loads of things that they are that hang in the

00:42:34.560 balance one if trump becomes president the uk sort of u.s trade deal will be at the top of the agenda

00:42:41.000 i assume david lammy would probably need to go into the white house with a bag over his head

00:42:46.060 so trump doesn't club him over the head there are also questions about sort of what eu are you

00:42:52.720 trying to get a closer relationship with the eu of now it's not the eu of 2015 2016 the rise of far

00:42:58.460 more sort of right of center parties across the eu means that even their their integration within eu

00:43:04.500 and the the harmony and cooperation within the eu is far more fractured so i think again like these

00:43:10.880 are the people that i would never want to admit that was a point to brexit i'm not whether you

00:43:13.960 agreed with it or not if we had a much more frank conversation about it about the the eu and what

00:43:19.800 it meant on a practical level about power distribution and accountability and economics and politics and

00:43:25.220 the nature of the union and all of that i don't think the discourse would have been so toxic that

00:43:29.040 they now have to tiptoe around and say oh we just want a fresher newer closer relationship with the eu

00:43:34.600 well guess what the eu that you you're even thinking of rejoining i don't even think will be here like

00:43:38.780 40 50 years from now yeah personally i don't think this is a project that was destined to last

00:43:43.840 i've always had my reservations about it i always thought it was too big if you want a political

00:43:47.680 union fine you can have some sort of kind of loose un thing in europe if you want an economic union you

00:43:52.760 just need to have about seven or eight economies because you have all these smaller less economically

00:43:56.900 productive balkan and eastern european countries that have no business being in the eu and it's far

00:44:01.740 more anyway but that's what i always felt even though i didn't swing on brexit one way or another but

00:44:05.880 like it's going to be interesting how are you going to navigate that how are you going to go to a

00:44:09.480 poland with like a dominant right wing not at the moment but a dominant right wing presence

00:44:13.640 so the eu that as it is exists now or in the sort of 21st century at least is far removed

00:44:20.620 from what it was originally in the post-war period what it was supposed to be

00:44:24.900 um ultimately the idea was to try and stop france and germany from ever going to war with each other

00:44:31.400 ever again that's sort of the bottom bottom that's sort of the the cornerstone of it all

00:44:36.020 and both marine le pen and the afd in germany have made have said all sorts of things about

00:44:41.960 leaving it now if either france or germany left the eu either the entire project would fall apart

00:44:48.320 or it would really become a completely different thing a completely different beast at that point

00:44:54.020 yeah so we'll see if that happens what i suspect will happen though is that you will make fun make

00:44:58.740 far more concessions maybe make different layers of membership it will it will fracture over the years

00:45:03.960 they will they will have to give states more autonomy and eventually it would start just

00:45:09.900 looking like this kind of weak amalgamation of states um that's having to navigate in this kind

00:45:14.380 of increasingly regionalist world where it's going to be more region region as opposed to like

00:45:19.340 sort of blocks giant blocks that are very diverse yeah their dream of having a single european army and

00:45:25.620 things hopefully that's just dead in the water well not well anyway uh to carry on though here uh other

00:45:32.540 than the european side of things david lammy the next link that's actually his words uh anyone can

00:45:38.560 go and read that if they want to um he's it's just basically said we're 100 behind nato nato's a

00:45:45.620 brilliant thing we've got an ironclad responsibility to nato saying things um parroting exactly what the

00:45:52.420 pentagon and the u.s state department want to hear i.e we're behind ukraine 100 as long as it takes

00:45:58.540 um so in other words no change when it comes to sort of grant the grand strategy of foreign policy

00:46:06.100 didn't he verse against trident a few years ago yeah that's that's not don't talk about that anymore

00:46:10.900 oh look now we're just just checking now we're in government i heard a rumor now we're in government

00:46:14.500 we don't talk about like keir starmer as a younger man wanted to abolish the monarchy but we don't we

00:46:18.220 won't say anything like that now oh yeah we'll shake the king's hand and take the power that'd be a

00:46:21.520 little bit awkward when he meets the king wouldn't it yeah i'm sure the king was like

00:46:25.360 yeah yeah i see you you've come back i know i know who you are they always come back um yeah

00:46:34.200 many have tried to get rid of our monarchy and um only one has ever succeeded in that uh so yeah

00:46:40.140 david david is absolutely towing the line the chiefs over at the pentagon and blinken and biden or

00:46:47.400 biden's handlers they'll all be very happy to hear the noises lammy is making um so yeah the commitment

00:46:53.080 so ukraine is ironclad uh but but no word about the small boats no word about sort of mass migration

00:47:01.700 in general legal forms of mass migration just no talk of of any of that so which is again just

00:47:07.380 governing by omission i mean i thought the home secretary i mean yes okay it probably would be

00:47:11.620 eu cooperation wouldn't it because he's talking about what is it smashing the gangs because no one's

00:47:15.920 thought of that right no one's sort of smashing the gang you say the home office yeah i mean really i

00:47:20.560 would put it under the ring of the defense secretary myself oh yeah but um yeah no the

00:47:24.600 foreign secretary would have something to do if we're going to have to strike deals with yeah

00:47:28.760 with france as well as any other countries that we want to but the funny thing is they don't even

00:47:33.580 want to share the migrants amongst each other this is interesting how are you going to share like when

00:47:37.680 when the eu itself doesn't even want to share the load of migrants how are you going to share

00:47:42.320 with the uk and then smashing the gangs it sounds like you're taking them like to the red light

00:47:47.020 district to have a weekend of fun yeah you guys you guys you guys can get smashed

00:47:51.060 so moving on to energy um they have talked about obviously the labor party are very green

00:47:57.920 more of these hideous onshore wind farms so they've committed horrible aren't they i think i there

00:48:03.080 were loads when i went to skegness there were loads on kind of like on the beachfront i was like

00:48:07.180 you're actually hideous they are an eyesore no absolutely yeah and i think there's all sorts of

00:48:12.060 arguments to be made why they're not really all that efficient because we're a relatively windy

00:48:16.060 country give that to us you know having giant uh solar panel farms like it works it's okay if

00:48:22.000 you're in arizona or a waste of time it's going to be a waste of time here but wind farms maybe but

00:48:26.480 yeah the onshore ones people don't seem to care as much about the offshore ones because obviously

00:48:30.260 you don't have to look at them all that often uh but i think there are sort of all sorts of

00:48:34.360 arguments that they're not really if efficient or um in terms of money anyway how much they cost

00:48:39.400 to put up and all that sort of thing obviously let's just build half a dozen or three or four

00:48:44.460 nuclear power stations yeah obviously

00:48:46.700 so yeah that's after samson says that um after their life cycle they end up being buried in the

00:48:55.140 chinese desert and of course the amount of carbon that goes into making them doesn't uh offset the

00:49:00.560 amount that it saves the planet yeah so just another boondoggle we spend a lot of money subsidizing

00:49:07.020 them they're hardly efficient i mean wind farms are one thing storing this renewable energy something

00:49:12.040 that no one wants to talk about we haven't figured out a good and efficient way of storing this energy

00:49:16.220 that we get from solar and wind and for some reason they just think yeah we'll generate the

00:49:20.160 energy and then just like we'll pass it on into the we don't actually have an efficient way of

00:49:23.420 storing this energy which is why we like we well anyway i don't want to get into it but i find it

00:49:28.000 very infuriating even if they worked i think the aesthetics are important particularly in the british

00:49:32.560 countryside which is you know beautiful and shouldn't be spoiled with these disgusting

00:49:37.100 things like this yeah it's not like we can have these in the city is it because in america they

00:49:42.160 have got sort of almost endless stretches of prairie and things that are completely empty

00:49:46.440 whereas we don't have that we're quite a small island you're only in the most central part of

00:49:51.820 england you're still only 70 odd miles from the coast at any given moment so we're we are quite a

00:49:56.580 small island to be fair um but yeah so they think that uh the tory's trying to ban this was absurd

00:50:01.560 so they've just sort of done away with that it was in their manifesto to sort of not do any more

00:50:06.380 drilling in the north sea but not build um but not build any nuclear power stations i mean

00:50:14.020 obviously there's the spectre of chernobyl and there's been other power nuclear power station

00:50:18.180 disasters like three mile island disaster and a handful of smaller ones as well but it's pretty

00:50:23.300 safe in the scheme of things it's pretty damn safe and we have the resources to do it this is

00:50:27.240 the argument around sort of building nuclear power stations we have we have the resources and we

00:50:32.320 have the cooperation of of the eu on that front and and develop countries like japan to do it it's

00:50:38.080 actually the most well upfront cost aside a very efficient way of of securing our energy um

00:50:44.040 sort of infrastructure and grid but they don't want to do it and britain's quite good at it we were one

00:50:48.640 among the first in the 50s to build a working nuclear power station and uh we it's one of the

00:50:54.480 things britain does do well they say we don't manufacture things anymore which is kind of true and

00:50:58.100 we don't do all sorts of industries we used to have but what we do do well is higher technology

00:51:03.420 and we choose to do it right when we choose to do it right um so another thing talk about housing

00:51:08.820 um yeah rachel reeves the the the chancellor another another arguably the second most important

00:51:17.860 office of state and another one of these people on the labor front benches who is dumb

00:51:24.100 there's sort of another way you know you speak to someone within a few minutes you get a feeling

00:51:29.880 of whether the whether they know what they're doing whether they know what they're talking about

00:51:33.560 whether they've got any sort of base of knowledge or anything at all and she's vacuous she's stupid

00:51:39.080 to make i honestly think that there's only a couple of uh there's only a couple of positions in

00:51:44.700 government where you really need an expert you really really want someone that knows their knows

00:51:50.480 their business inside out and the chancellor of the executive is one of them you want a competent

00:51:55.220 um uh economist economist in that role and she's just simply not that the thing is our politics in

00:52:02.160 general doesn't attract the best and brightest um because we don't pay them enough because somehow

00:52:06.800 we think the people that are responsible for the well-being of 67 million people should be paid

00:52:12.600 just as much as like i don't know a gp in 10 years and i'm like i'm sorry that's not how the job

00:52:17.960 market works if you want the best people you like the singaporeans pay the politicians bonuses for

00:52:22.500 jobs well done and for hitting targets you have to have you have to be willing to invest in quality

00:52:28.080 right if you if you were getting eye surgery and you found out your eye surgeon was on five pounds an

00:52:31.820 hour you would run out of there because he would he would he would stab your eye with a toothpick

00:52:35.660 right i'm sorry unfortunately pay does matter someone like rachel reeves and all these people the

00:52:40.680 david lamys they're career politicians they've been funneled up by an inefficient system and now

00:52:45.280 they're responsible for they hold very important um seats of power and with we're saying oh but how

00:52:50.600 do these people get through yeah because we don't we don't we don't recruit talent we don't build our

00:52:54.180 political system to recruit the best well david lammy uh sky news uh outed him about a year or two ago

00:53:01.180 that he takes all sorts of donations from people we don't know to the tune of tens and tens of thousands

00:53:06.000 of thousands he says to pay his staff the thing is there's also the idea of just public service for its

00:53:10.540 own sake back in the pre-war pre-world war ii for example or the 19th century politicians were paid

00:53:16.360 very very very little um but you were drawn to it by sort of the draw of power first and foremost but

00:53:22.760 also the idea that you were probably already rich yeah it was already the reserve of um sort of

00:53:30.240 affluent people and that you did it for the sake of sort of public service well all that sort of

00:53:35.920 that's when we had honor in our politics that's when we respected politicians so both rayner and

00:53:41.740 reeves are just talking about how they they do plan seems like they really do mean to build start

00:53:47.900 building lots and lots and lots of new houses you know to the tune of maybe a million a million and

00:53:52.340 a half houses as quickly as they can obviously to uh to be filled largely by migrants to house the

00:53:59.620 million migrants they've learned over this is an utter catastrophe for this country like not only are they

00:54:05.460 concreting over our countryside which is enough to make me absolutely furious but then they're doing

00:54:11.900 it in the name of making our country worse by um importing people that have no right to be here

00:54:19.640 don't share our values largely yeah um yeah i know yeah it's a it's a crime an unbelievable crime but

00:54:26.520 they're laughing it up they're having a good time it's all fun and games it's all fun and games

00:54:31.200 she's planning on improving um house building um permits on the green belt um which is a bit

00:54:37.940 strange isn't part of labor's manifesto to you know protect our our countryside and be

00:54:44.060 environmentally friendly and all of that what happens to our natural flood defenses if you've

00:54:47.880 approved house building or across you know a lot of green sites in the country again it's just that

00:54:53.040 short-term thing isn't it what about farmland let's just build them don't worry about anything

00:54:56.960 yeah but what about farmland we're increasingly dependent on and food imports because we don't

00:55:00.960 actually have enough farmland to feed our ever-growing population these people are amateurs this is sort

00:55:07.340 of the blair era third string fourth string people right didn't she say she worked at the bank of

00:55:13.040 england i'm pretty sure she like interned there for like a summer i saw i saw someone on twitter they

00:55:18.640 did a list of the cabinet and their previous work experience and lots of them it just said none in

00:55:23.400 other words their whole career had been as a politician yeah they'd never worked outside of

00:55:27.480 it and a good third of them i think maybe more we just said none and then a lot of the others were

00:55:32.560 really really entry-level stuff yeah um shadowing a minister and then you know working in the civil

00:55:39.600 service for like a few years and it's just yeah i mean but the question is why would the kinds of

00:55:45.100 people want in politics actually want to be in politics why would the business owners and the

00:55:48.380 surgeons and and you know the farmers and and all of that why would they want to enter politics

00:55:52.280 there's no honor there's no dignity it doesn't pay enough it's it's a thankless task even if you do

00:55:57.540 happen to to get a seat and and claw your way up to power you have a civil service that's working

00:56:01.360 toothed nail against you i mean half of the failure of brexit can be blamed on the civil service

00:56:05.380 so i mean it's just it's just a rotten system some people just allured by sort of the aphrodisiac of

00:56:11.060 power even if you don't really wield much but you get your name inscribed in the history books

00:56:17.240 that you got to be the foreign secretary you got to be the prime minister along with the likes

00:56:22.140 of walpole and peel and stuff and churchill so you know for some people that's that's the allure

00:56:28.860 so before i uh wrap up this segment because we're getting on for time i thought i would mention a

00:56:34.500 couple of things i think might be good or potentially be good there's one the tartar steel not that

00:56:39.640 there's one where they look re-looking at uh doing a deal perhaps with tartar steel to try and save some

00:56:46.960 the steel industry whether they really will or not so yeah this is actually very very important

00:56:53.220 because i would put this as a sort of national security concern because you want to be able to

00:56:58.200 produce your own steel domestically because otherwise the main place you're going to get

00:57:01.900 it from is china and say that there are increasing tensions with china you don't want all of a sudden

00:57:08.340 the price of steel to shoot up because it's used in so many different things that are important

00:57:13.780 to keep your country running and protect it as well yeah so cut to the chase on that although

00:57:18.140 it might sound alarmist and maybe even absurd but if we found ourselves in a total war with china

00:57:23.360 they can manufacture endless tanks and airplanes and we simply can't because you haven't got any steel

00:57:28.300 i mean this is the one this is the one place where i agree with a lot of like sort of left-wing policy

00:57:33.240 which is we should have crucial industry in this country like the americans that have approved

00:57:38.680 billions in funding for um the um semiconductor chips industry because most of the most sophisticated

00:57:45.220 ones come from taiwan and if china blockades taiwan then we're all screwed i mean i think that's

00:57:49.460 something that we in the uk should be doing i mean we have something on a much smaller scale and like

00:57:52.800 companies in cambridge but it's not enough steel is another thing you don't need to be left-wing to

00:57:56.980 believe that though i'm about as free market as it gets but i have an exception for national defense i just

00:58:01.780 don't hear a lot of right-wingers saying it like i mean they would say something like yeah we shouldn't

00:58:05.360 have sold off our water companies or energy or whatever yes that's fine but it's more than just

00:58:09.740 you know core infrastructure it's also about you know the kinds of industries that keep everything

00:58:14.180 ticking and food is one of those like don't destroy your like precious farmland that's ever decreasing

00:58:19.180 because you want to build more houses to like let all these people that you've let into the country

00:58:23.520 like live in houses well we haven't learned our lesson on that because um the americans were able to

00:58:29.080 leverage um our food insecurity in the british isles and two world wars to basically destroy the british

00:58:35.000 empire that's that's that was the sticking point that is our weakness as an island and we've still

00:58:40.660 not fixed it and it's infuriating yeah allowing your steel industry to be um subverted or stolen

00:58:47.060 from you or allowing your own farmland to be annihilated it's like you know let's poison all

00:58:52.260 our own rivers it's it's on that level it's absolutely insane that's already happened can i just say

00:58:57.240 this by the one last thing to say yeah is that's okay the reason for this is because of illegal

00:59:01.680 migrants that's the only reason why that that is no but literally that's that if you find if you

00:59:06.660 look into why a lot of migrants are coming from france and belgium it's because they have national

00:59:10.020 ids like a national id card system and they tried introducing this back in 2014 when i was in uni because

00:59:15.060 i remember i applied for one fell through the floor um but that's the reason why so anyone who's just

00:59:19.640 listening uh we're just looking at a bbc article there that says labor rejects tony blair's call for id

00:59:24.580 cards if anyone doesn't remember tony blair uh loved the idea of id cards and tried to bring it in

00:59:29.820 multiple times and was always just about thwarted and obviously behind the scenes he's still very

00:59:33.880 important uh sir tony uh who's a um a member of the the garter uh still has got a lot of power

00:59:42.180 behind the scenes and uh it seems like he's obviously tried to bend starmer's ear let's get

00:59:46.220 this done now you know come on look let's get this done and starmer said no um which is a bit

00:59:51.040 surprising because most people a lot of people think including dr nema parvini that whatever blair

00:59:55.600 wants blair gets well not always i do largely agree with that view i'm not i'm not having

00:59:59.780 a dig at aa there he's um he's pretty much right but just not always he isn't he doesn't literally

01:00:05.460 control everything starmer does and says well this there's evidence of that which is a good thing i

01:00:11.000 think because the id card thing we've already got all sorts of id um for me anyway my feet

01:00:16.880 thoughts and feelings on it is that it's going down the route of just ever increased surveillance from

01:00:22.780 the state that's all it seems to be for me it's just sort of a big brother thing the thing is when

01:00:28.740 you turn 17 you get automatically a provisional license shipped to your door i think they should

01:00:33.580 stop that i think if you want a provisional license you should pay for it and i think you should

01:00:37.360 uh the main source of id should be like a national id card and the reason why i say this because there

01:00:42.140 were over a million illegal immigrants estimated in the uk that are working and you know excuse me

01:00:46.540 like the turkish barbers and the like would an id card stop that yes it would because it would also

01:00:51.380 make the jobs of officials a lot easier you go into places random checkups like you know how you know

01:00:55.860 immigration police burst into like these like flats in london that have like 20 people living in them

01:01:00.380 how do you ascertain someone's identity just give me your national id card and i i was always kind of

01:01:05.460 skeptical on this because i was like is this a surveillance tactic you know i was kind of i agreed

01:01:09.000 with you up until a point but this summer when i went to ghana i got my um national id card and you

01:01:13.900 can't do anything without it you can't open a bank account you can't go to school you can literally

01:01:17.540 it's like your life basically it's more important than a passport but i realized that actually it's a very

01:01:22.560 good way to embed national preference because just like you you you can't hear politicians say

01:01:27.880 benefits for instance unemployment benefits or housing benefits should only go to british citizens

01:01:31.980 if you have some sort of easy identifiable way to see who someone is it cuts through a lot of the

01:01:38.240 the the the waste we see in our in our public um sort of uh in our public services and also makes

01:01:44.520 the the the jobs of immigration officials a lot easier you need to have a system to quickly and

01:01:48.500 easily identify someone the thing is though i think a lot of illegal immigrants particularly

01:01:52.380 are deliberately off the grid so for example there's the you can see videos on twitter this

01:01:58.100 country based on dead people's identification people that will are technically dead but were

01:02:02.000 never registered as dead it is it the the abuse of the system in this country is so flagrant i

01:02:07.100 actually support this idea just just just on that point i just feel it'd be one more layer of

01:02:11.380 bureaucracy that the the the criminals ignore i mean you have to phase it out and obviously the

01:02:17.200 sophistication of it is important um and there are ways like the ids that we have already like

01:02:22.520 passports and and national insurance number you get that when you're 16 don't you um but we already

01:02:27.040 have so many of those why not just consolidate them into one like if you already have like if you

01:02:31.120 already have a national national id number and a passport and a license it should be easy for you to

01:02:35.580 get your national id card if you're some random person working at like a nail shop and but i know you

01:02:40.720 guys don't go to nail shop because it's your man not regularly but like i swear to god i have never

01:02:45.560 i have been to many nail shops and only i've only met one person who speaks english fluently the vast

01:02:50.700 vast vast majority of them have not integrated don't speak english many of them are illegal immigrants

01:02:55.420 working for like three pounds an hour i mean it is it is it is shocking and the whole thing is a

01:03:00.700 front for money laundering and drug money turkish barbers these american sweet shops you see on

01:03:04.860 i mean they're all amongst i mean that's what concerns me how easy it is to integrate into like

01:03:11.560 well not integrate to slip into the underbelly of british society and just make a mockery of the

01:03:17.000 system yeah you're right you're right i don't disagree with anything you say i just wonder whether

01:03:21.040 mr blair's cards will make any difference but we've got we've got to finish there because we're

01:03:24.880 already getting on for time josh you've got a whole nother segment i do indeed but it's okay audience we

01:03:30.760 we are going to leave time for comments because i have i had prior approval from samson to uh to run

01:03:36.460 on a little bit longer to make sure we don't miss anything so uh i know we're bad at sticking to our

01:03:41.320 time but that's fine um but anyway i wanted to talk about now that the conservative party are out of

01:03:48.960 office uh what legacy they've left behind for the labor party to inherit and uh obviously 14 years in

01:03:55.880 power is a long time and at certain points they had you know a large majority where they could

01:04:01.800 effectively do whatever they wanted and so what we've got to presume then is that the legacy they've

01:04:08.140 left behind the britain that they have created is what they wanted to create and uh we're gonna see

01:04:13.640 some stories from the the end times of the conservative regime uh that epitomize i think

01:04:20.200 that the state that has been left behind not the the formal state but the state of the country um is

01:04:28.540 beyond parody i think and uh it's to the point where if you ran this as a satire 30 years ago no one

01:04:37.880 would believe that these sorts of things would be going on for example this first story boy 12 is

01:04:43.320 referred to counter extremist prevent this is they they deal with islamists uh you know actual potential

01:04:49.620 terrorists and they're talking to a 12 year old boy well they attempt to and fail to deal with

01:04:53.660 this well yes that's because that's because uh the political forces have basically said oh what

01:04:59.200 about the far right what about the far right is is islamophobic to target islam even though a lot

01:05:05.240 of the people referred to prevent pensioners that are too old to even be terrorists funny i can't

01:05:11.540 remember the last time the far right uh blew up an ariana grande concert or a bus in london no i can't

01:05:18.400 refresh my memory if you can recall but and also and also uh nigel farage should actually be thanked

01:05:25.620 for basically obliterating the far far right in this country because the whole edls and the bmp's

01:05:30.100 they basically vanished after i'm not saying like they've been banned from reforming ukip and all of

01:05:34.900 that but they basically when people had a legitimate way to voice their non-racist legitimate concerns

01:05:40.100 about immigration and all of that these extremist parties just fell off the wagon so what's wrong with

01:05:46.080 saying i'm gay not queer i don't even understand i was a 12 year old gay that yeah that was exactly

01:05:51.480 what i thought it's it's there's multi layers of absurdity to this story first of all a 12 year

01:05:57.320 old kid is declaring that he's gay which to my mind is a little bit young isn't it to to know that

01:06:04.000 sort of thing it's a bit weird that it's even on the cards or discussed you know i didn't go around

01:06:09.660 at 12 you're like just becoming sexually curious exactly yeah so i don't even understand how

01:06:15.440 you can now say yes i'm definitely only attracted to men so i'm reading a little bit from the article

01:06:21.520 just to clear it up and also um sort of read the story in its own words the child made a video posted

01:06:27.460 online in which he also stated there's no such thing as non-binary um which probably is enough to

01:06:32.720 refer him to prevent and in response to school bullies who mistakenly believed he supported

01:06:37.420 transgender ideology which is again another interesting point that the school bullies uh

01:06:41.840 bullying on the on those lines well uh you know sometimes bullies don't get it wrong um he he said

01:06:48.500 i'm gay not queer um and he clearly understands the distinction between that that the left has been

01:06:55.840 making to what is it what is it what is the distinction so yeah i don't can you it actually

01:07:01.980 explains it in the next line of this article so originally a homophobic slur trans activists claim

01:07:06.180 the word queer now describes people who don't adhere to ideas of sex or gender which is what

01:07:11.740 i've seen it be used as so i think the daily mail has got that right um it's just weird and i don't

01:07:16.860 think that you should be redefining words because it's weird and communistic in nature um but it says

01:07:22.740 but the school told the boy's mother they would refer him to prevent the home office program that

01:07:27.080 attempts to stop people from becoming terrorists amid fears he could be at a risk of being radicalized by

01:07:31.740 the far right um you know i know you know politics changes quite rapidly but i don't remember the

01:07:40.580 part in you know the far right politics where they're just like you know what we need more of gay

01:07:46.640 12 year olds uh well there's that also he's right because there's nothing as non-binary yeah it's not

01:07:53.220 true like i mean queer is a weird a word that i like i didn't even know about five years ago i

01:07:59.560 thought it was like they're a bit strange yeah i mean odd basically yeah um i had a word to reclaim

01:08:06.560 i find it strange that a 12 year old saying with such certainty that they're gay i also find it even

01:08:12.500 more bizarre that a grown adult feels the need to report a 12 year old to prevent everything in

01:08:18.000 the story it's just bizarre yeah this is strange which is exactly why i've included it i mean it's

01:08:22.680 disgusting really because let's be painfully honest about it if he's a boy and he's talking about being

01:08:27.960 homosexual in some way it all boils down to sodomy should a 12 year old boy yeah come on it's

01:08:34.540 disgusting um but i think i think that going back to sort of rajar kipling use of language gauges meant

01:08:40.840 happy and queer meant odd and now we're now we're quibbling over what a 12 year old boy

01:08:47.040 i think the overarching point is sex exactly like we live in a degenerated age i and yeah i do think

01:08:55.400 there's a valid point in asking what the young boy knows about sexuality in general what he knows

01:09:00.940 what it means to be gay and i doubt he knows what he's talking about five six years he's like yeah

01:09:05.240 i'm definitely only sexually attracted to men and i want to do my business with them fine i have no

01:09:09.000 problem there um but i'm i'm curious to even know what his understanding of it is probably almost

01:09:13.620 nothing i would have thought and it's just with an inmate which um there are many layers to this

01:09:20.720 that infuriate me so first of all i feel like as with being in frontline roles in the military

01:09:30.500 and frontline roles in the police i feel like it should be men only and then not just men men who are

01:09:39.460 you know over a certain height can run a certain pace for a certain distance you know you want the

01:09:46.560 most physically fit most physically capable people in these roles in prisons on frontline in in the

01:09:53.100 police and in the military you know i got in trouble for saying that really i got are you seriously i got

01:09:58.820 called sexist and they were like oh you think women should only be pen pushers and all of that and i'm

01:10:03.320 like have you seen the video of these two female police officers trying to hold down a man

01:10:07.920 just elbow them and ran off there's loads of it was pathetic and i was like i mean it's it's laughable

01:10:15.080 to pretend like there's no difference between men and women and the kinds of jobs that we can do that

01:10:18.860 involves some sort of physical force i've interviewed a lot of police officers and there are some mixed

01:10:24.300 responses from them some say you know i've known female police officers that are actually very good

01:10:28.800 but the majority of them have said i think they're worse than a waste of space i think they're good for

01:10:34.760 like community related so the thing is if you have like police officers like kind of outside of

01:10:39.100 weatherspoons on a friday night i've heard police officers say that there's something about having

01:10:43.480 a female police officer that brings down the testosterone in the room and actually helps to

01:10:47.540 have kind of productive dialogue insofar as you can have productive dialogue with a drunk person

01:10:50.960 falling out of weatherspoons however i think in situations where you're likely to make arrests or to

01:10:56.320 have to hold people back i don't really see why women need to be there no absolutely i was um i've tweeted

01:11:01.000 about that a number of times because there's lots and lots of clips from all over the world from

01:11:05.140 australia and germany whatever of a female cop and like i'm like about 5 10 away maybe 160 something

01:11:12.940 like that i don't think i'm big enough and strong enough to be a cop on the beat like that you want

01:11:17.560 a big lump you want a big six foot plus 200 pound dude who's under 35 or something that's what you want

01:11:24.580 that's what you need really if i go to the gym more right right you want someone that is almost

01:11:29.500 certainly going to win in a one-on-one with another desperate man who's trying to get away

01:11:34.520 that's what you need that's what that role is yeah so to have a little five foot five 100 pound woman

01:11:41.440 in her 50s or whatever if you see it yeah it's it's crazy because there's lots and lots of roles for

01:11:47.040 women in the in the police just not that one yeah i was talking to a few people in the met police and

01:11:51.560 they were saying that a majority of the cases they go to are mental health related and actually women are

01:11:57.280 more adept at that being you know more predisposed to communication emotional intelligence and

01:12:01.620 communication as you say loads of roles where they're better than a man at it yeah but not

01:12:05.780 fighting in the street not frontline stuff not like the bit where we hear bobby's on the beat you don't

01:12:10.620 need to be on the beat but same with prison guards right and the fact the fact that we have allowed

01:12:17.940 this to happen has allowed this situation and the frustrating thing is i've seen screenshots of the

01:12:23.100 video obviously i didn't seek it out um but they look at me like yeah sure actually it was rory

01:12:29.560 told it's not very good quality it's like a flashback to kim kardashian's sex tape i remember

01:12:36.720 like being super excited i was like what's this film with a potato what the hell is this but but the

01:12:41.660 ray j one i mean i don't know what they're talking about i mean what but in the video they've got the

01:12:48.760 the prisoner has got like a tv like a games console the guy's smoking a joint filming it yeah there's

01:12:55.180 some weird like pakistani guy filming it as well and is saying yeah this is this is the what we get

01:13:01.220 in our prisons yeah i'd never want to do that voice again by the way i'm i'm far too middle class prison

01:13:05.360 yeah yeah drugs in prisons are obscene so that they have drugs they have women they have tvs they have

01:13:11.740 food that's paid for shelter that's paid for they've got a better life than me basically

01:13:15.160 you know the the taxpayer is putting these people up to have seriously they have like a bell like if

01:13:20.380 you want like a prison my dad knew someone who was who went to prison in this country and he used

01:13:24.420 to call them all the time he's like are you growing corn there like why why are you so like

01:13:28.420 nonchalant it's like i get three square meals a day and like a roof over my head this is great

01:13:32.160 yeah i i want it to return to the sort of 19th century where we need to work them to the bone

01:13:38.440 why not you know i think we need to take inspiration from like other countries in terms of how we run out

01:13:44.340 prison but uh as samson has preempted um to quote one of my favorite comedians um although i am going

01:13:51.580 to pre preface this by saying the man she had sex with was a convicted burglar serving four years

01:13:56.720 um also admitted assaulting a police officer with intent to resist arrest driving without a license

01:14:02.280 and driving without insurance and he also at the time had a partner who was seven months pregnant

01:14:07.220 and she actually had to be sent to hospital because of the shock of this being a national news story

01:14:12.900 and he faces no further punishment for what he did and he's already living this lavish lifestyle in

01:14:18.500 prison are you telling me at the time that he was sleeping with this only fans prison officer he had

01:14:23.800 a partner that was seven months pregnant yes so how long have you been in prison or was this a result

01:14:28.100 of a conjugal visit i i presume he was only a recent admittance but to to quote my one of my favorite

01:14:35.740 comedians norm mcdonald now this might strike some viewers as harsh but i believe everyone involved in

01:14:40.160 this story should have a bad day because i can't say that last word but i do think those details

01:14:46.500 you just read out just paints a picture of an absolute scumbag oh yeah human being doesn't it

01:14:51.460 oh yeah i make judgments i don't care people say who are you to judge and all sorts of things no i'll

01:14:55.720 judge yeah no no i'll judge thank you very much oh no not only will i judge i'll i'll be jury and

01:15:00.420 executioner as well um but anyway another thing that i thought was absurd was glastonbury i didn't go to

01:15:05.860 glastonbury because um there were some bands i liked but it wasn't worth the money it's quite an

01:15:11.040 expensive festival i've never found i i for me glastonbury is one of the most unappealing things

01:15:15.560 so unappealing to be there around like sweaty smelly communists dancing in the mud to like

01:15:22.600 mediocre most of the time music like why don't i have with no shower absolutely not i like to go to

01:15:29.000 music festivals with showers and normally it's quite obscure bands and it attracts a nice wholesome

01:15:33.560 crowd exactly it's very bougie festivals basically i've been to glastonbury was it three or even four

01:15:38.700 times when i was younger in my teenage years i thought it was great the last time i went in my

01:15:42.100 late 20s i was like why am i here this is horrible this is a horrible experience it's been hijacked

01:15:47.700 by champagne socialists from like southern england yeah it's just it's just dirty and smelly and the

01:15:52.540 bands i don't avoid listening to the actual the actual album version is much better than this

01:15:58.420 this is a horrible experience you've got to go to a festival where the the live bands are

01:16:03.220 actually good live right yeah that's that's a good start but the reason i'm talking about this

01:16:08.180 uh is not to talk about music it's to talk about the fact that banksy did a bit of artwork showing

01:16:14.020 migrants on a boat and this was in the crowd in glastonbury and this alone is already absurd and

01:16:20.860 yeah banksy is a scumbag and i hate his guts he's you know make anyone who tries to normalize graffiti

01:16:26.380 in my books is like an aesthetic terrorist and and should be aesthetic terrorists they should

01:16:33.820 have paint sprayed in their eyes or something i don't know what the punishment should be but it

01:16:37.900 should be more like wax wanksy i'm sure i'm sure someone's tried that this is deeply insensitive

01:16:44.680 yeah it's really really weird isn't it it's sort of uh again for leftists uh there's there's nothing

01:16:51.800 that's too shameful it's sadistic i just think yeah regardless of where you stand there are hundreds

01:16:59.240 potentially thousands of people nameless lives that have been lost in the channel just just in this

01:17:05.580 in this industry i don't really see the purpose of doing this it's horrible it's needless political

01:17:11.920 messaging but there's a bitter irony to this and obviously the people who go to glastonbury

01:17:17.260 think a ticket's about 350 pounds ish i don't know my dead body and uh money you're also paying for

01:17:23.900 transport booze if you're a normal person and uh you know all of the other food and tents all of this

01:17:30.440 stuff is going to be at least about 500 pounds which you know you've got to be around the national

01:17:36.600 average income or up to really go to this sort of thing and so one could imagine these are quite

01:17:41.680 sheltered people that are isolated from the impact of importing lots of illegal people because

01:17:46.160 they're not living in the areas where these people can afford to live that you know the places where

01:17:50.300 the the government puts them up for free in these hotels and things they live in nicer places than

01:17:54.680 that if nothing else they're eco warriors right on holiday in europe for like 350 that's true

01:17:59.220 nice weekend off i'd rather go to like romania which is lovely yeah um so this is the irony

01:18:06.880 glastonbury is thrown into chaos as hundreds sneak in with fake wristbands for just 50 pounds

01:18:11.840 by vaulting the fence forcing stages to shut due to overcrowding as fans panic in the crush

01:18:16.380 so you mean to say people broke into this this bougie glastonbury thing this gated community

01:18:21.140 and they made the place worse despite not paying an equal amount and therefore there is overcrowding

01:18:29.440 competition for say resources what are you saying i don't know why they felt the need to build a wall

01:18:35.480 around it because i thought walls never work yeah and there's no such thing as like illegal entry

01:18:41.200 everyone is everyone is teaching them that yes if more people break in and it's unfair it's going

01:18:46.900 to make it more difficult for you obviously and uh yes another thing that has annoyed me um is the

01:18:53.960 fact that they left all of this litter so they're preaching all of these these high-winded causes

01:18:58.280 the absolute mess it's disgusting many we could learn a lot from the japanese yeah i agree whenever

01:19:05.280 whenever i um leave a festival i take everything with me put it all in the bin i even you know mix

01:19:12.460 it into like glass and cans and things like that and you know some years i've even taken down other

01:19:19.000 people's tents and took them home to resell just to pay for my ticket the amount of tents left behind

01:19:23.400 you're properly middle class if you buy 150 pound 200 pound tent and just leave it there

01:19:28.500 yeah absolutely you can't even be bothered to take it down even though it takes five minutes a lot of

01:19:33.780 these tents are relatively cheap because i am a great big nerd and know all about tents because i like

01:19:39.260 camping but um yeah it's still a waste of money and it's wasteful and it kind of annoys me i was raised

01:19:45.760 with the sort of you know my grandparents instilled the world war ii spirit of don't waste stuff yeah

01:19:50.980 yeah and i still carry that exactly so another thing that really infuriates me is the push for

01:19:56.940 rewilding and lots of local councils and the tory government encouraged people to rewild farmland

01:20:02.300 despite the fact that you know anyone who's watched clarkson's farm uh knows that farming is very very

01:20:07.080 difficult and rewilding you know it ticks boxes if you're an eco weirdo but there is the fact that um

01:20:15.580 as this says we import roughly 40 percent of our food in the uk uh we wouldn't have to do this if

01:20:22.940 we produced enough food yeah i know sure there are some things we can't produce here you know

01:20:27.840 there are some climates that are favorable to things so some luxury items could be imported so

01:20:32.520 there will always be some amount of import but it's certainly not enough to self-sustain we're not

01:20:37.920 you know living to sustainable levels and people that supposedly say we need to be sustainable

01:20:43.560 don't seem to care about food security and everyone needs to eat food this is one of the

01:20:48.600 most important ways to be sustainable it's not happening and um the final thing i wanted to talk

01:20:54.140 about is that ed sheeran in uh talking to fio von which by the way completely irrelevant but fio von's

01:21:01.880 real name is fiodor capatini von kernetowski the third the third which i think is one of the most

01:21:09.660 decadent names i like fio von i think he's really funny i never knew his real name

01:21:13.000 okay that's interesting i like also that he calls himself fio von he's got respect for syllables he

01:21:18.440 doesn't want to waste anyone's time but anyway um talking about wasting time i need to get on with

01:21:22.680 it um he was talking to ed sheeran who um when he asked him what's the most dangerous place to be

01:21:29.820 in london and he says every area of london literally every area is sketchy

01:21:35.460 if we said that it's not as well and it's not no you don't think so no no i worked in and around

01:21:44.320 victoria and pimlico and uh whitehall it's fine there yeah i wonder why um but i think

01:21:54.100 increasingly he's right it's not like mogadishu though is it it's not it's not like it but that

01:22:01.660 being said i think the reason what's making it dangerous obviously the knife crime but i think

01:22:05.340 the bigger point is and you do have this problem with increasingly urbanized areas people don't

01:22:09.100 know each other people don't know who lives next door or three doors down you have it's socially

01:22:13.000 a fragmented area where you've crammed nine million people in who cares if they steal from you down the

01:22:18.720 road they don't even if that you're you're the you're the grandmother or someone's brother

01:22:21.520 that social connection that actually acts as a barrier against antisocial behavior and eventually

01:22:28.020 crime doesn't exist so i see his point like sometimes you go into areas like knightsbridge

01:22:32.300 and chelsea and you you literally see people communicating with each other looking for someone

01:22:35.580 with nice bags or a nice watch or whatever i've seen people get mugged their phones taken around

01:22:40.520 liverpool street i've literally seen the person run away i mean it's very i moved here 14 years ago and

01:22:46.260 i've noticed a huge difference so i think increasingly he's right oh yeah no i mean i was born and raised in

01:22:51.200 around london been going to london since i was a small child worked went to uni there worked there

01:22:55.340 up until three years ago for my whole life and it's way worse now than it was 10 15 years ago way way

01:22:59.900 way way worse yeah there are small pockets that are fine and other pockets which are real genuinely

01:23:05.460 no-go area some estates in the east end yeah i you would feel immediately unsafe anyway our time is

01:23:12.200 running out isn't it my point in bringing this up is there are multiple different weird things about

01:23:16.240 this on the first thing is why it why is a multi-millionaire being asked about well what's

01:23:21.840 the word on the streets like ed sheeran's out on the streets of london yeah secondly um you know i agree

01:23:29.680 though that not all parts of london are created equal there are parts where i feel like wow this is

01:23:34.440 really nice but i'm a sort of you know i grew up on the edge of the city of plymouth basically within

01:23:39.500 stone's throw of the countryside so all of london is a bit scary to me and weird because it's unfamiliar

01:23:44.240 okay so i'm inclined to just say it's all sketchy even the nice bits because it's unfamiliar but um

01:23:50.260 it's just interesting that ed sheeran is able to say this sort of thing if if you know a political

01:23:56.420 commentator says you know actually i don't feel safe in london thinking of sort of john cleese him

01:24:01.500 saying england is no longer an english city he'll get raked over the coals for it yeah but i wonder if

01:24:08.060 the anti-john cleese crew will come out in force against sheeran i don't know whether sheeran will

01:24:14.120 get a pass of course he will obviously my point being is that at the end of the tory regime it

01:24:19.400 could be the last time they're ever in government fingers crossed everything has sort of become

01:24:24.280 absurd there's nothing that really makes sense anymore everything's been turned on its head

01:24:28.640 and you know things are beyond parody yeah they ruined our civil society in all sorts of ways

01:24:36.120 the very fabric of our country was ruined by them absolutely so i believe we have some video

01:24:42.840 comments don't worry we are going to get through all the comments

01:24:45.080 with current discussions about whether to replace first pass the post voting may i suggest the

01:24:52.900 preferential system used in australia if one candidate receives more than 51 percent of the votes as the

01:24:57.860 number one candidate they win if not the last place candidates number two preferences get

01:25:02.620 distributed this process continues until one gets the absolute majority a curse should look at the

01:25:07.380 seats that reform came second in if tory voters placed reformed as their second preference reform could

01:25:11.840 have potentially picked up another dozen associates from labour yeah it's not a bad system and they have

01:25:18.640 compulsive voting which is good so you don't have kirstama becoming it's not a bad system it's certainly

01:25:25.680 but sorry sorry no no he's right it's certainly better than i think what we've got now but sometimes

01:25:29.900 you do end up with the second place person winning the example of that is when ed miller band beat

01:25:36.600 david miller band for the leadership of the toy party remember and so sometimes sorry sorry labour yeah

01:25:41.680 yeah let's decide what these 67 68 million people want i don't think that's right

01:25:46.460 this is very relaxing yeah that's what i was thinking who is this guy he's an imposter

01:26:02.960 he is not gandhi why is he here what it looked like gandhi to me yeah it did

01:26:11.740 lithuania okay okay yeah why is there a statue to gandhi in lithuania i know everyone knows you

01:26:21.700 know famous colonizers of india lithuania um mind you the average lithuania is probably more

01:26:28.500 historically literate than our politicians that's true yeah okay i would like to recommend a youtube

01:26:35.540 video called the dementia team joe biden a team parody if you have a president who looks dazed and

01:26:43.780 confused and if you can afford them maybe you can hire the dementia team

01:26:48.740 i enjoyed that yeah is that it i think it might have been cut off at the end there but that's a

01:27:09.080 show expected two more people i'm an 80s kid so i loved the a team i loved the a team and the a team

01:27:15.500 theme it's sort of deep down in my childhood memories is that so um that was funny to me i am

01:27:21.400 a big believer in in memeing your enemies i think that it's good fun and also it is a good way of

01:27:28.200 demonstrating that you know your point in a fun way and it doesn't really annoy people that much

01:27:35.140 memes will save democracy or destroy it who knows um so some of the comments the written comments um

01:27:43.900 awesome to see esther back um cannot wait for more based takes um that was from russian garbage

01:27:49.800 humans oh thank you i like i like russian garbage humans didn't russian garbage humans send us a

01:27:56.260 massive box of biscuits yeah so thanks for that yeah you're a bit of a legend aren't you um biggie

01:28:02.320 bigfoot says hope you're feeling better today josh i'm on the mend slowly yes it still hurts i've been

01:28:07.660 in pain i can taste blood but i'm doing okay keeping on a brave face wisdom see if you didn't

01:28:13.320 notice yeah he told me yeah okay he got an emergency appointment on the nhs i know i'm shocked all of

01:28:19.380 a sudden i support socialism for some reason um it's amazing what tooth pain can make you do bleach

01:28:25.360 demon says always great to have esther on wish you was on weekly there you go oh very hospitable

01:28:32.340 audience today um and bleach demon says again for my french election segment the current atmosphere

01:28:37.960 in france has echoes of the lead up to the revolution terrifyingly so um the will of the

01:28:42.520 people is being crushed under the weight of the new elite the bureaucrat that's uh very very true it

01:28:48.320 seems warlord wututai says you cannot ignore the will of the people forever the harder they double

01:28:53.120 down now the worse the inevitable inevitable backlash will be um ice wallow says i would bet

01:29:01.200 everything i own that david lammy will make a racism accusation against donald trump that i believe

01:29:05.920 is for your segment bow but i've read it anyway tank uk us relations before they even begin did see

01:29:11.200 lammy i think just before the election or maybe on the day of the election say something about no of

01:29:17.280 course donald trump is uh sort of okay but that's something that he sort of got to say he's gonna say

01:29:25.620 it through gritted yeah absolutely absolutely but yeah they're on opposite ends of the political

01:29:31.120 spectrum aren't they so yeah but that's where you go remember when gordon brown went to visit

01:29:36.420 george bush junior that was that was weird george bush gave him like a leather jacket like a flying

01:29:42.520 leather jacket like george bush used to wear gordon brown left it on the airplane really very

01:29:47.040 deliberately left it on the airplane that's funny deliberately left it yeah anyway it's quite a nice

01:29:52.780 gift really isn't it i know i would have sold it yeah it's probably yeah yeah ebay i'm not a fan of

01:29:57.420 george bush but you know i would have had a jacket from him captain charlie the beagle says regarding

01:30:01.400 the french election it baffles me that the conversation in the media over the elections

01:30:05.940 is something to the effect of how come the far right are doing so well they never stop to think

01:30:10.540 maybe our left-wing politics have gone too far it's usually the effect of russian interference or am i

01:30:15.780 out of touch no it's the electorate that are wrong a good simpsons reference there it's only a matter of

01:30:20.700 time before they step too far i only hope they pull back beforehand here here omar awad says you'll

01:30:27.940 never hear the words love has won said with more hate and vitriol than after a leftist victory

01:30:32.680 which is very very true okay um derek power says once again an election was commandeered and yet the

01:30:41.840 far right that um this supposedly the chronic threat to our democracy je pleure pour le france i weep

01:30:48.720 for france uh furious dan says it's fascinating how the boilerplate conservatives the globalist

01:30:54.400 liberals and the commies who hate both all fall into lockstep against anyone who will enforce the

01:31:00.120 borders it's very true it's uh it's almost like there's no meaningful difference between them it's

01:31:06.160 almost as if the the ideological window is so narrow that you know they're more than happy to cooperate

01:31:10.920 when they're performatively arguing when there are no external threats henry ashman says i just don't

01:31:17.580 understand why the french elections have multiple rounds a week apart um the whole system seems

01:31:22.480 designed to allow dodgy deals at half time yes say that to the fa um okay um would you like to read

01:31:31.980 some of your comments bo or should i if you wouldn't mind okay cheers uh north fc zuma says esther is right

01:31:37.800 on this one politicians should be paid extremely well including a good pension for life but they should

01:31:42.540 never be allowed income from another source can never hold another passport and must um have never

01:31:49.360 known an ancestor born outside of the uk all punishable by death and extradition agreement

01:31:54.080 he had me there until he didn't the other thing is going to work for a company that you lobbied for

01:32:00.880 during your time in office that's a classic thing is that they don't give you a bribe

01:32:05.540 but but the deal is is that when you're finished in politics you get to and it's but the average

01:32:11.900 person only earns 25 grand yeah that's an argument to raise to make the country more productive so the

01:32:16.540 people's salaries go up not to to to to depress the wages of some the most important roles in the

01:32:22.840 country that's that's what i would say but yeah they should be paid a lot more we should never see

01:32:27.440 the butlers of the world former cleaners advising us on economic policy i'm sorry that that is a

01:32:32.680 nonsense so thane scotty of swindon my favorite response to we need a second referendum is to ask

01:32:39.360 if remainers would be bound by the result of that referendum and when they say yes they would i point

01:32:44.440 out that the 2016 referendum was the second referendum the first was on the 5th of june 1975

01:32:49.900 yeah oh it's true that is very good it's like the scottish independent one though they lose it and

01:32:56.320 then immediately pretty much immediately saying well we want another one yeah so yeah i want a

01:33:01.680 referendum on scotland ruins the whole point of it i think the net give the english a referendum

01:33:05.620 exactly do we want them in the union get shot of them should do a culloden scorched earth policy

01:33:12.300 solve the question once and for all yeah choking i mean i say this but i would vote for them to

01:33:20.680 remain in the union i mean only just if we sorted out the tax system i'd allow it but until then

01:33:27.160 they're stealing my tax money via the government oh we definitely need to um reform um devolution

01:33:34.100 absolutely it's 25 years in september devolution turns and i'm like we have a habit of not reviewing

01:33:39.400 major policy in this country like our drug policies haven't been reviewed for like 50 years this is

01:33:43.260 something that needs to be reviewed you need to like strip a lot of these devolved powers of

01:33:46.400 significant powers like selling your taxes and all that nonsense um i think covid was a big eye

01:33:50.860 opener there was no reason why the welsh and scottish assemblies basically bankrupted their local

01:33:55.720 economies and expected westminster to pick up the tab but that's not that's not in the spirit of a

01:33:59.700 good union i think i would undo every single thing that blair did in terms of devolution

01:34:04.520 i would roll us back to before he did anything 1996 it's fine the year the year of my birth it was a

01:34:12.240 good year it's great so based biology teacher says great to see more bow he would have been a mighty

01:34:18.980 candidate for reform will he run in 2029 um i suspect tige uh tige that the tice and nige

01:34:29.100 yeah uh that tige i suspect the single entity that is tired hates my guts do they i suspect so yeah

01:34:36.460 why my views are far too extreme it's a far-right fantasy i'm a far-right fantasist according to

01:34:41.540 by repeating repeating reform policy in a in an article yeah so they i don't think they want me

01:34:47.720 um if they did if i was allowed if i was allowed to say what i really thought and they want me then

01:34:53.840 i would but um i suspect i don't think nige really wants anything to do with lotus eaters at all

01:35:00.440 i suspect no we'll see how that goes but even even rishi sunak acknowledge we exist that's something

01:35:07.100 because their their policy is uh a net zero migration and mine was to call for a program of

01:35:13.740 mass re-migration and that's just far too extreme for them it's not what they want migration like so

01:35:18.020 brits that are living abroad to come back yeah no loads of people in this country that hear

01:35:21.480 illegals like that you can't make jokes like that julia hartley burrow literally made the same joke on

01:35:26.600 her show she was like if the english should get a vote on scotland and tell them to f yeah yeah

01:35:31.600 she literally said the same thing on her show listen to like this is due by hundreds of thousands of

01:35:35.580 people so i find that weird yeah no they just uh if they wanted me to i would do it but they

01:35:41.460 they won't want me to yeah i and bigger i also think that they're gonna be gatekeeping heavily

01:35:49.840 after the media attention because they sort of buckled to the the mainstream and the left they went a bit

01:35:57.480 more multi-culti and i'm not multi-culti so yeah i'm not really their boy bleach demon says don't feel

01:36:05.400 too bad about having uh lammy as foreign secretary in the u.s they had hillary clinton almost as if

01:36:10.680 the diplomatic corps constantly proves uh mccarthy right that's true hillary clinton was a bit more

01:36:17.580 tolerable i don't know maybe because i've listened to david lammy on lbc so i already have a more

01:36:22.280 interesting thing of him and i'm like mccarthy did nothing wrong that's true i was gonna say that

01:36:28.560 exact thing jghw says blair looks more and more like gollum every day don't insult gollum like that

01:36:33.900 doesn't need i mean the the analogy that ultimate power corrupts was it absolute power corrupts

01:36:42.100 absolutely i mean just look at tony it's been wearing the ring of power for too long it's now

01:36:47.380 visible colin p says we didn't get a uh good deal with the eu because both the eu

01:36:52.500 eu negotiators and too many traitorous politicians in this country had no intention of negotiating in

01:36:59.220 good faith they were actively working to undermine the uk and brexit and in fact the person that

01:37:03.740 therese may appointed to do the brexit negotiations was a remainer and deliberately stated that they

01:37:09.240 were working to undermine it so we have definitive proof of that so for the uk is beyond parody

01:37:16.360 um jghw says if you want to steal industry then you need cheap energy which is true uh yes the north

01:37:23.040 sea we've got it right on scotland's doorstep so actually you know i've changed my mind about

01:37:27.620 getting rid of scotland um you can stay yeah i just want your oil um i'm just like a more honest

01:37:33.680 george bush um that texas gal says i'm a big gal uh thrown hay bales around my whole life and spent a

01:37:40.420 good decade bodybuilding i can't even beat my 12 year old son play fighting men are definitely built

01:37:45.200 different yeah well clearly you're feeding your 12 year old son well as well so well done all round

01:37:50.460 uh warlord wutagai says bow spitting facts um there we go that's how i roll what can i say

01:37:58.660 you don't spit saliva facts

01:38:00.800 ewan baker says new no sewage expansion no new water reservoirs i don't get that that reference

01:38:09.680 oh no news no sewage expansion no new water reservoirs because um water companies have been

01:38:15.640 asking for new reservoirs because we haven't got a new water reservoir i think

01:38:18.600 since the late 1980s um so that's not very practical because we need somewhere to extort

01:38:23.740 store water new sewage expansion i mean they just need to stop dumping sewage into our water bodies

01:38:29.000 that'd be quite nice it would be nice yeah and the need for additional reservoirs also comes from

01:38:33.920 the fact that we're artificially growing our population which seems a bit wasting water like

01:38:38.360 the infrastructure that we have right now is actually wasting what i think it was like 30 size

01:38:42.160 olympic pools a day well the pipe so many of the pipes are still victorian yeah yeah so which is

01:38:48.060 absurd to me a testament to the victorians but unfortunately you have to modernize at some point

01:38:51.760 when i look to my water bill i i do wonder where the money is going straight to the shareholders i

01:38:56.900 imagine um fane scotty of swindon says to be fair having worked in the police female

01:39:02.900 officers are perfectly competent provided they can meet the requirements unfortunately our general

01:39:07.660 standards are going down including uh with male officers female officers aren't the problem

01:39:12.260 reduced standards across the board combined with an ideological drive to hire more women

01:39:16.160 um are bringing incompetent people to the front and center and to be fair um i've heard a similar

01:39:22.960 argument a few times before from other current and former police officers so i think that seems to

01:39:28.680 be quite common amongst people who've worked in the police omar awad says the problem with political

01:39:33.800 pay incentives is that greed is limitless the only real way to keep politicians in line is

01:39:38.200 accountability by force if necessary um i don't know what form that would take yeah it's still a job

01:39:44.760 it's still a job you can't force employees so you wouldn't you can't force employees to do a good job

01:39:49.300 you just have decent employees leaving so it's about incentives as well yeah and uh finally uh

01:39:54.820 norfence night i remember blair pushing for id cards in the early 2000s i think it was 2005 wasn't it

01:40:00.020 after the 2005 election and was skeptical back then even though i'd been foolish enough to vote

01:40:05.440 for him in the first place um yes well at least you won't make that mistake again i don't think it

01:40:10.480 was foolish i think it was well it certainly wasn't great but you if you voted for cameron you basically

01:40:14.500 voted for blair so don't feel too bad about it yeah they're basically blair in different forms but

01:40:20.060 anyway um i think we've run out of time in fact we've gone over by 14 minutes so hopefully you feel

01:40:26.200 satiated with all the comments we've read i know we get told off we're trying to do better

01:40:30.200 um but thank you very much for watching thank you very much esther for coming down having me and uh

01:40:35.720 it's been a lot of fun and uh thank you very much for watching make sure to tune in same time tomorrow

01:40:40.220 and goodbye

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 09, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #952

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