The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #954

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters i don't know why i'm saying it like that

00:00:14.020 but thank god that you started before i did because i forgot your hosting so i was about

00:00:18.460 to start doing it myself you can say it as well if you want if you're feeling missed out

00:00:21.680 oh hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters yes we're tag team today it's just us two

00:00:28.220 it's like the back that's the good old days yeah we need to get the old wooden desk out yeah john

00:00:33.880 needs to be slurping some disgusting food right next to our ears oh i miss it so much i still love

00:00:41.260 you john don't worry so uh yes podcast 954 it is the 11th of july 2024 in case you've become senile

00:00:50.040 like funnily enough joe biden which we are going to be talking about today and also i'm going to be

00:00:55.300 talking about who will trump pick as his vp basically just going to run through who's

00:00:59.280 being speculated about i'm not going to tell you who he's going to pick because we don't know

00:01:02.360 it's joe biden yeah it's going to be joe biden um but you know i'm going to give you the information

00:01:08.080 who people are saying the pros and cons for each and who is a long shot that sort of thing and uh

00:01:13.880 then you're going to be talking about the potential destruction of info wars yes a sad day if it does

00:01:19.840 happen f's in the chat for info wars also uh yes that's in the chat for frogs the gay frogs

00:01:28.160 and france for their soon to be destroyed country france is already full of gay frogs although paris

00:01:35.080 is full of rats that's that's true very astute of you well done yes and uh also rumble rants uh if

00:01:41.660 you're watching on rumble you can send us some money and we're going to try and read them out in

00:01:44.860 between the comments and also leave lots of time for the comments on the website as well as well as

00:01:48.980 video comments and all that yesterday but thankfully this time we don't have any third

00:01:52.780 parties disrupting us that's all right it's the power team today there you go that empty chair

00:01:58.420 they're not going to do anything we've we've subbed in the two mvps are in the room let me on coach let

00:02:03.960 me on anyway how is joe holding up well terribly terribly so everybody knows that last week there was

00:02:13.900 a certain debate was it last week or the week before time has just been flying by circle um

00:02:19.660 all right rust uh yeah was it last week oh my god i'm completely blanking on this

00:02:28.280 great way to start i'm so sorry everybody either way some point in time yeah it was a debate some

00:02:35.520 indeterminate time recently the debate went on between donald trump and joe biden in which

00:02:41.280 the regime completely overplayed its hand by rigging the debate what they thought would be

00:02:46.440 in favor of joe biden so there was no audience to laugh and jeer when he would have a senior moment

00:02:51.620 and so that they could mute um donald trump's microphone whenever they wanted to in case he

00:02:56.900 decided to start interrupting joe turns out they should have let him continually interrupt joe the

00:03:01.980 entire time because then joe wouldn't have had chance to finish his sentences not that he did finish

00:03:07.040 a sentence the entire way through if if he didn't say a single word in that debate it would have come

00:03:13.040 off better yeah if he just stood there licking an ice cream occasionally smiling then maybe he would

00:03:20.960 have retained some credibility he didn't he didn't he stumbled he lost his way in the middle of sentences

00:03:26.660 and the rnc put out a little compilation video of it happening honestly i found that quite depressing

00:03:32.280 because i've seen elderly family members kind of go that way and while i do think that joe biden is

00:03:37.920 an unrepentant and evil person wait don't say that about the first black woman president well maybe he

00:03:43.580 thinks so um i didn't feel sorry for him per se it reminded me of people i've seen go through that which

00:03:50.380 was quite depressing but there since then there's been the media spin we all saw immediately after

00:03:57.180 all of the media in unison come out and say joe biden needs to go joe biden needs to go joe biden

00:04:03.580 needs to go which was an interesting flip especially seeing as they decided that they were going with

00:04:08.100 the how could joe biden's team keep this from us the whole time you are joe biden's team if you're the

00:04:12.880 new york times or the atlantic or any other big publication in america you are joe biden's team

00:04:18.440 you've been trying to cover it up for years well we've been talking about it for years and people like us

00:04:25.520 have been smeared and called conspiracy theorists and said oh you're just you know it's just political

00:04:31.160 point scoring he's perfectly cognizant you know that you had all these puff pieces saying oh he's

00:04:37.440 he's amazing he's at the top of his game i there were actually people saying he's at his best

00:04:42.660 interestingly i i went back in preparation for this and watched one of the speeches that he gave in 2012

00:04:48.980 after obama had won the election and it was night and day the difference which is obviously going

00:04:55.500 to happen it was 12 years ago now but it was just remarkable how much he's deteriorated since

00:05:00.840 well it's not unheard of because ronald reagan he had sort of dementia at the end of his present

00:05:06.160 presidency sort of at the tail end and you could see a difference there as well so it's not necessarily

00:05:11.280 a partisan attack it's just one of the things that you need to bear in mind when you have old

00:05:16.060 people assuming the most powerful office in the land i mean it is interesting again though that

00:05:21.900 he was already like this in 2020 when he was campaigning they did everything that they could

00:05:27.520 to try and hide it he's been this way for a very long time at this point and only now after it was

00:05:33.520 clear to everybody have they said okay we need to change tactic we need to say actually he needs to

00:05:38.260 leave office but who are we going to replace him with how are we going to handle this maybe we don't

00:05:43.520 need him to change to leave office actually but there's been a in the week since then there's been a

00:05:49.480 range of reports and there's also been a range of reactions because as well joe biden will not be

00:05:53.700 stepping down he has said himself we'll see if that carries on to november but there's an increasingly

00:05:59.540 small window of time where if they do replace him with another candidate that that candidate will have

00:06:04.080 to actually campaign for anything so i think that my sort of intuition i mean anything can happen

00:06:11.280 particularly for american presidential elections so you know don't take my word here but my sort of

00:06:17.180 suspicion is that they're going to stick with biden and then at some point if he does become

00:06:22.540 president then uh kamala harris is going to take over and then they'll have a new vp who they're

00:06:30.040 going to call as the next big leader of potentially because if because as i understand it the problem

00:06:36.760 that they have right now is if they decide to go for another nominee biden himself would have to agree

00:06:42.440 to it um and biden both in his cogent moments seems to have a bit of an ego about him where he

00:06:49.880 doesn't want to step down and also he has his family behind him who seems to be behind the scenes

00:06:54.520 from reports i've seen pushing him into it making him continue and if he did step down then they would

00:07:00.960 have to get kamala harris to step down it's almost like bypass her there's some sort of incentive for

00:07:06.340 biden's a presidential immunity that might make him want to stay in office perhaps but we'll take

00:07:14.400 a look at what's been going on since that debate the reactions how he's been handling it um but first

00:07:20.180 i'd like to remind everybody that while he is in his dementia ridden senile state clearly not in charge

00:07:27.360 of anything this is what his administration is doing right now uh where biden biden personally

00:07:34.420 is going to give legal status to 500 000 undocumented spouses so these are illegal immigrants

00:07:40.240 who've come into the country and then married somebody who is a citizen of course if you're

00:07:44.420 an american citizen that doesn't mean that you are of traditional american stock it could be a mexican

00:07:50.040 show up who's illegal gets married to another mexican who showed up legally in the country five

00:07:56.440 minutes ago and apparently this is enough this is enough but let me go through the details here

00:08:01.220 so president biden announced a new policy that would protect hundreds of thousands of undocumented

00:08:05.000 spouses of u.s citizens from deportation according to administration officials the new policy will

00:08:09.980 apply to those who have been in the country for at least 10 years so at least not five years five

00:08:14.220 minutes ago and will allow them to work in the u.s legally that white house believes that more than

00:08:18.780 500 000 spouses will be eligible so as with all kind of amnesty legislation like this what it's telling

00:08:24.920 people coming into the country is if you get away with it long enough you win a prize you win

00:08:29.540 citizenship if we don't catch you by then it's like the the world's like best hide and seek game

00:08:36.960 if you can hide for 10 years in america and you you reach that point you can become you manage to get

00:08:42.880 married to someone at the same time win-win right well there you go it depends on the terms of your

00:08:48.520 marriage what makes it easier is in all likelihood the administration isn't even looking for you in

00:08:52.920 the first place so it's rigged in your favor in fact they're probably actively hiding you yeah so

00:08:57.980 remember that even if biden is on his way out because it's questionable whether he would even

00:09:02.920 win when uh as he stands and it's questionable whether he'll be able to continue standing as we

00:09:07.720 get closer to the election his administration is still doing everything that they can to make your

00:09:12.980 life worse and to make america a worse place so that's just a reminder that they hate you uh but the

00:09:19.600 media reactions again since the debate are interesting because one of my favorites was the economist

00:09:23.860 who wrote an article an editorial saying why biden must withdraw and it was the front page story

00:09:30.660 of that issue and here is the image this was blazoned on the on the front cover of the economist when i

00:09:39.420 was going into news agents and anywhere that would sell it this is what you saw the president's

00:09:44.380 personalized zimmer frame that if trump released that that would be like a brilliant piece of political

00:09:51.220 propaganda but this is but this is from the economist i know which is one of my least favorite

00:09:55.880 outlets going they are absolutely insufferable don't know anything about economics either well

00:10:01.180 yeah they can be i will say they occasionally put out decent graphs like the one about all of the

00:10:07.560 people in i think it was denmark all of the immigrants and how much they put into the system

00:10:12.120 in a lifetime and found that if you were men apt middle east north africa pakistani and turkish

00:10:17.480 there was no point in your entire life where you were anything other than a net drain to the system

00:10:23.040 so we can at least thank the economist for ones like that thank you for vindicating what we already

00:10:27.680 knew by having eyes yes but it's nice to have data to point to but this this is interesting because it

00:10:33.600 comes out and just says it the presidential debate was awful for joe biden but the cover-up has been

00:10:38.560 worse ah the cover-up hmm who might have been involved in that cover-up it was agony to watch a

00:10:45.460 befuddled old man struggling to recall words and facts his inability to land an argument against a

00:10:50.980 weak opponent was dispiriting but the operation by his campaign to deny what tens of millions of

00:10:56.620 americans saw with their own eyes is more toxic than ever than either because its dishonesty provokes

00:11:01.980 contempt again you have been part of the contemptible media campaign to try not to um to try not to make

00:11:09.200 this obvious to everybody pretending and talking as though it was something that people have only just

00:11:14.140 noticed out of the bay i mean come on come on mr biden it goes on to say deserves to be remembered

00:11:19.680 for his accomplishments and his decency rather than his decline his decency like when in the 90s he said

00:11:26.760 that the branch davidians killed themselves killed themselves that's on the senate branch davidians did

00:11:33.280 not kill themselves i'll say it on record so it's right the first senior democrats have begun to call

00:11:39.300 openly for him to step aside so there's an establishment publication the economist saying

00:11:44.400 that it should that he should step down this is broadly speaking the establishment line right now

00:11:50.280 is that you should step down mr president one of my favorites was this opinion piece from the new york

00:11:55.340 times asking the question does america need a president no it needs a king clearly come back come back to us

00:12:03.660 you has it really worked out has it really worked out in the long run i mean well they're still doing

00:12:08.900 better than us but now i do need to point out funny as the title is this article is making the point that

00:12:14.380 an executive decision maker like a president is still needed you can't just have the pure deep state

00:12:21.340 running it but this does tie into my segment from last week where i was talking about how the deep state

00:12:26.480 is going to i think increasingly come out into the public and admit that it exists and say try and

00:12:33.480 sell itself to the public surely the existence of joe biden as president is evidence that the deep state

00:12:38.940 exists well that's my point you know he can't even articulate a sentence let alone run a country he can't

00:12:46.040 stand up for long periods of time he has to go to bed before 8 p.m it doesn't make sense and he he seems

00:12:51.880 like he's got something like parkinson's or dementia or something like that but seeing as the economist

00:12:59.140 spoke about his accomplishments and achievements we do have to commend him for finally beating

00:13:03.320 medicare anyway um so here's here's the point where it talks about the deep state so they say

00:13:11.660 you could take the relatively mild position that one lesson of both the biden years and the trump's

00:13:17.120 first term is that the executive branch can often work around a president who isn't quite up to the

00:13:22.260 demands of the job so so again this is a very major publication saying yes there is an entrenched

00:13:28.780 bureaucracy that some would call the deep state yes it does work independent of the executive a lot

00:13:34.120 and can actually work against him in most cases effectively so it's entirely uncontroversial there

00:13:40.480 are lots of real world examples of this happening uh you know trump could probably name about 10 off the

00:13:46.940 top of his head quite easily when he was president of people in his administration not doing what they're

00:13:52.260 told some of whom went into the media and admitted that that's what they were doing

00:13:56.380 yeah when people admit that they did something normally um is is a good idea that yeah that may

00:14:03.240 be true and uh here's again the open admission the mild position clearly has some truth to it the

00:14:11.620 everyday functioning of the executive branch does seem more independent of the president's capacities

00:14:16.700 than it appeared to be before january 2017 now that's not saying that all of a sudden it is

00:14:22.520 it's appeared to be everybody knows that if you've got a dementia riddled president obviously he's not

00:14:29.300 charge of anything in charge of anything so who is in charge of it well it clearly has to be the

00:14:33.340 bureaucrats the uh permanent employees the deep state and then uh again it's saying well that's a good

00:14:39.420 thing yeah we need somebody to come to decisions at the end of the day um if the if there's sort of

00:14:45.000 sort of bureaucratic gridlock but beyond that really you kind of don't need anybody because the system

00:14:50.440 works by its own inertia it's that formula again isn't it of it's not happening it is happening

00:14:56.220 and it's a good thing i know there's a step in the middle i forgot how it goes so why do you care

00:15:00.380 yeah there's a deep state but you've got a dementia riddled president who doesn't know what day it is

00:15:04.880 so why do you care bro we're on the why do you care part yeah and then it goes on to respond to

00:15:10.280 curtis yarvin of all people so what the new york times yes yeah the person who wrote this seems to

00:15:16.720 have read through a recent substack article that he wrote so that's very interesting how much curtis

00:15:21.720 yarvin has penetrated the mainstream uh so fair play uh but again it seems that there's a battle going on

00:15:28.960 one side a lot in the media sphere want biden to step down probably the democratic convention as well

00:15:35.220 want him to step down and on the other which is mainly biden and the rest of his family want it to

00:15:40.840 appear like he's okay and in pursuit of that what they did was on abc he had an interview a full

00:15:48.600 interview one-on-one with president biden with george stephanopoulos who is of course a very regime

00:15:54.760 friendly insider who was only going to throw softball questions at him and it's quite incredible let me

00:16:00.080 let me see if i can just play a little bit of this for everybody

00:16:04.080 have we got audio

00:16:08.260 his first television interview since the debate the news making exclusive now reporting from

00:16:18.820 madison wisconsin george stephanopoulos good evening from madison wisconsin for a special edition

00:16:26.560 of this week the first broadcast interview with president biden since last week's debate

00:16:31.720 earlier this afternoon we taped the 22 minute interview there are no cuts no edits we have not

00:16:39.180 touched it at this pivotal moment in the president so did you catch that yes 22 minutes and we had to

00:16:47.920 not edit it so that you're absolutely sure that we didn't cut out all the parts where he stumbles

00:16:52.320 but 20 that's what biden can stand is a 22 minute interview and i imagine it didn't exactly come off

00:17:01.440 well i haven't actually watched it myself yeah well let's let's let's watch on and see what he says

00:17:06.520 just to the first few questions we can watch a minute or two of this

00:17:09.840 so campaign here it is mr president thank you for doing this thank you for having me let's start

00:17:16.720 with the debate uh you and your team said have said you had a bad night but your but your friend

00:17:23.000 nancy pelosi actually framed the question i think is on the minds of millions of americans

00:17:26.620 was this a bad episode or the sign of a more serious condition it's a bad episode uh

00:17:33.700 no indication of any serious condition i was exhausted i didn't listen to my instincts

00:17:39.440 in terms of preparing and i had a bad night you know you say you were exhausted and i know you've

00:17:46.120 said that before as well but you came and you did have a tough month but you came home from europe

00:17:50.440 about 11 or 12 days before the debate spent six days in camp david why wasn't that enough rest time

00:17:57.780 enough recovery time because i was sick i was feeling terrible matter of fact the docs with me i asked

00:18:02.900 if they did a covid test because they were trying to figure out what's wrong they did a test to see

00:18:06.880 whether or not i had some infection you know a virus i didn't they just had a really bad cold

00:18:13.340 and did you ever watch the debate afterwards i don't think i did no well what i'm sure what i

00:18:22.120 want to get at is what were you experiencing as you were going through the debate did you know how

00:18:26.520 badly it was going yeah look

00:18:28.660 the whole way i prepared nobody's fault mine nobody's fault of mine i uh i prepared what i usually

00:18:39.880 would do sitting down as i did come back with foreign leaders or the national security council

00:18:45.360 for explicit detail and i realized about partway through that you know although i get quoted the

00:18:53.800 new york times had me down at 10 points before the debate nine now or whatever the hell it is

00:18:59.340 the fact of the matter is that what i looked at is that he also lied 28 times i couldn't

00:19:06.660 i mean the way the debate ran not my fault nobody else's fault no one else's fault but it seemed like

00:19:14.140 you were having trouble from i think that's enough of that right so did you notice that at first he was

00:19:19.080 giving the short direct answers and the second that he was expected to give more than a single

00:19:24.600 sentence it fell apart yeah i mean he was slurring his speech you know it is better than i'm used to

00:19:33.200 from biden but it's still not good enough for uh you know any sort of high office let alone the

00:19:37.920 presidency and one thing i did notice is the tone of voice that the guy interviewing him uh used where

00:19:45.440 he used the tone of voice that you would use to talk to an elderly grandparent just like so um are you

00:19:52.120 okay are you doing all right health-wise you're sort of skirting around the fact that you're talking to a

00:19:56.040 very old person you feel like you know hospital or at the home or something yeah it's sort of this

00:20:02.720 there's a little bit of sort of sad deference in in there it is it is sad i i have to admit again

00:20:10.780 i've seen it go it happened to my own family members when they've got to extreme ages and it's

00:20:15.720 always very sad but what was tell me that last statement he made where he said it's nobody's fault but

00:20:21.520 mine i'll tell you how i prepare donald trump was 10 points ahead nine points ahead now i was doing

00:20:29.000 it for detail nobody's fault but my what was the cogent point that was made through that sentence

00:20:34.800 that he was taking responsibility for it which i think i don't think there was a cogent point no

00:20:41.820 sentence he he addressed four or five different things at the same time and never completed a

00:20:48.820 thought that's true it wasn't it wasn't particularly articulate but what i got from that was that

00:20:53.340 he was trying to suggest hey it was all me everything that's gone wrong is me he's trying

00:20:59.560 to be a fool guy basically is what i got from that well that's what he's been briefed and been told to

00:21:04.580 say i i feel like yeah he was trying to come across mature by taking responsibility but also that

00:21:10.460 like you say he was probably briefed with three or four talking points you need to hit on that you were

00:21:15.840 sick that you didn't get chance to prepare properly that donald trump was ahead but was

00:21:21.000 slightly less far ahead right now and also that he lied and those thoughts those points were floating

00:21:27.300 around in his mind but all he could really do rather than forming them into a coherent statement was able

00:21:32.620 to grasp at them very very blindly grasp at them throw at them randomly so you never get a complete

00:21:39.320 thought and it's sad to see it's clearly the signs of a man who's not in control of his own yeah i mean

00:21:45.260 if it were a normal person i would feel sad but it is joe biden and as far as i'm concerned you know

00:21:51.680 i i reserve this sort of condemnation for very few people in the world but he is a truly horrible man

00:21:58.420 from a moral perspective and what he's done with his political career is further enrich himself and

00:22:04.740 his family at the expense of the american people and i don't think that he necessarily deserves any

00:22:11.500 sympathy although it it is obviously the initial reaction right in that i i i felt the same thing of

00:22:17.700 you know you see someone who's struggling you know my grandparents um had dementia and it's sort of

00:22:23.660 it's it's a bit um harrowing to see it i suppose yeah and i have to highlight as well that after the

00:22:30.480 the interview is done because again it's a very very short interview uh they have a team of panelists

00:22:36.640 analysts analyzing what's going on they all trash him they all absolutely bury joe biden i mean look

00:22:44.320 at how concerned all of these people they look like they're off to a firing squad i know and this

00:22:52.040 woman's thinking so maybe i'm not black because i don't feel like voting for that man my goodness i

00:22:57.600 know exactly there's going to be a lot of michael jackson's in the world

00:23:01.140 uh but anyway after that he's come out in the public uh for msnbc rang into them said that he's

00:23:10.140 not going anywhere this is again about an 18 minute clip he's rambling the whole way through you can't

00:23:16.760 really tell what he's trying to say other than that yes he is running uh he released this public

00:23:21.420 statement on his twitter account which presumably was written by an aide because you're not going to

00:23:28.320 get all of that out of him no but i can respond to all this by saying clearly and unequivocally i

00:23:34.140 wouldn't be running again if i did not absolutely believe that i was the best person to beat donald

00:23:39.020 trump in 2024 the only thing running i think this year is going to be excreta down jerry biden's leg

00:23:46.780 i was hoping that wasn't where you were going with that right as i'm drinking from my coffee as well

00:23:51.600 but yeah by all accounts by the looks of it they're going to run him they're going to run him

00:23:58.580 and look at what we have here in the responses we have uh right wing or a centrist or non-democrat

00:24:05.520 accounts saying you do it joe you show the haters wrong quartering never back down you're our democratic

00:24:12.420 nominee do it joe you can do it i i for one do support joe biden as the democratic candidate for

00:24:19.660 presidency as well formally absolutely and then there's been some other reports as well that joe

00:24:24.940 biden's doctor has said that he gave him a neurological exam earlier on this year and

00:24:29.980 everything was fine really i guess they come cheap now eh uh so according to the new york times

00:24:36.660 white house visitor logs show that dr kevin canard uh a neuro canard i don't know a neurologist who

00:24:42.700 specializes in movement disorders and recently published a paper on parkinson's visited the white

00:24:46.900 house eight times from last summer through to the spring of this year however um mr biden's

00:24:52.400 personal doctor kevin o'connor released a letter that insisted president biden has not seen a

00:24:57.820 neurologist outside of his annual physical so i mean one of those is lying the results of this year's

00:25:04.180 exam were detailed on the 28th of february an extremely detailed neurological exam was again

00:25:09.480 reassuring him that there were no findings which would be consistent when with any

00:25:13.640 so um cerebellar or other central neurological disorders cerebellar is that or was it the

00:25:20.660 cerebellum brain area cerebellar c-e-r-e-b-e-l-l-a-r okay okay did i get it right yes okay good i was

00:25:29.780 just i've never heard that before that's all just wanted to make sure uh other neurological disorders

00:25:34.480 such as strokes multiple sclerosis or parkinson's etc etc so i don't believe that for a second

00:25:40.340 there's something going because joe biden's been old for quite some time you can't just say oh well

00:25:47.460 you know sometimes he gets old because there has been a noticeable decline from about you know from

00:25:54.820 when he was giving speeches as you say in 2012 and say 2020 to 2024 joe biden there's obviously a

00:26:01.980 difference so you look at him in the 80s or 90s from 2016 to 2020 after he left office with uh with

00:26:08.300 obama when trump came in and then when he's on the campaign trail in 2019 2020 he seems like a

00:26:14.700 completely different person so if you're telling me that nothing wrong nothing to see here don't

00:26:20.860 look at the man behind the curtain pulling levers is every everything is fine come on come on so

00:26:26.960 that's how joe biden's doing not well

00:26:29.060 so from one american politician to another i'm going to be talking about who will be trump's vp and

00:26:39.700 so there's been lots of speculation in the news in fact it's one of the main things people have

00:26:43.400 been talking about other than biden's well-being and his ability to be a president and um if jason

00:26:50.700 miller who is a trump advisor and ceo of getter who we've actually had on the podcast is to be

00:26:55.580 believed which i think nice guy yeah he's a nice guy um if he's to be believed it's going to be

00:27:00.860 announced on monday and so um it's worth mentioning as well any political commentator if they're being

00:27:07.480 completely honest doesn't really know who the candidate's going to be and so i'm not going to

00:27:11.700 be telling you who it's going to be i'm just going to be looking at who people are speculating about

00:27:15.680 and also the pros and cons of each the one that these sort of um things in favor and disfavor of

00:27:23.660 why trump might pick them um as well as some of the favorites bookies favorites and things like that

00:27:29.820 um and this is important for two different reasons obviously it sets the tone and intention of a trump

00:27:35.600 presidency who he picks as vp um as well as who's going to carry on trump's legacy uh when he no longer

00:27:43.460 runs for president because of course whoever is vice president is then set up more or less to take

00:27:50.000 over um rule of the party aren't they yeah so it is actually quite an important thing although um

00:27:56.720 i imagine they might not have the most important role in the actual presidency when in office you

00:28:02.420 know if they win of course um yes on the screen here you've got a selection of names would you like

00:28:08.640 to run down them sure so these are the most popular bets because whenever i look at this sort of thing i

00:28:14.180 don't like to listen to political commentators necessarily i like to follow the money because i think

00:28:18.860 money talks more than you know more truth about what people are thinking than their actual mouths which

00:28:24.400 is not really too hard to go wrong with so a lot of people putting money on vivek ramaswamy and uh

00:28:31.960 he himself has admitted that he is not being considered oh so yeah whoever's put money on that

00:28:39.240 well done um this is if he does end up being picked this is going to be really embarrassing for me

00:28:45.280 um maybe vivek's been putting money on himself and that's what's going on i don't know if that's

00:28:50.600 libelous or anything so that was a joke i'm sure he's not um so yes i i think he was the favorite

00:28:58.080 because he had quite a good campaign didn't he and uh he's sort of deferred to trump now now he's

00:29:03.780 dropped out for the race for president sorry can i i need to say connor told me that rudy giuliani was

00:29:10.440 going to be the pick and i don't see his name anywhere yeah he's he's not even being considered

00:29:16.680 oh well there you go uh i've got a very long list of people being considered he's not on there

00:29:22.180 giuliani's not on there no all right tim scott uh he is a south carolina senator and a moderate

00:29:29.180 um he's uh he could potentially alienate core trump supporters because he is a moderate

00:29:36.000 but he is a black man which could win the minority vote if trump is being quite cynical

00:29:40.640 um he's also um you know potentially a bit more of a peacemaker candidate it's gonna seem like trump's

00:29:48.260 actually not this dangerous guy sorry i'm so stupid i kept saying rudy giuliani i kind of keep

00:29:53.640 saying marco rubio i'll be getting to yeah because i keep forgetting that italian names all sound the

00:29:59.160 same to me that's the way save face with a little bit of uh stereotyping there you go

00:30:04.540 also tulsi gabbard um she's uh you know a democrat i think we're going to be talking a little bit about

00:30:12.520 her later because she is one of the names that keeps on coming up so i'm going to do a little

00:30:16.600 bit more on her in a second doug bagum i'm going to talk a bit more about him as well i think that

00:30:23.120 actually he might well be one of the favorites at the minute from people's speculation at least

00:30:28.000 and then christy noem as well who we're also going to be talking about but um there are also some

00:30:33.500 other names here uh that some of the money men have been looking at and uh if we scroll down there

00:30:40.220 jd vance he's tied favorite at the minute with the bookies uh with doug bagum who you know we're

00:30:49.080 both we're going to talk about both of those marco rubio as you say who is connor's favorite to win

00:30:54.040 yep um i personally think he's a bit too establishment for trump to consider

00:30:58.380 and trump has personally mocked him on numerous occasions where he said called him little marco

00:31:03.640 and a con man so if you picked a vp who you who you have called a con man it's going to be very easy

00:31:12.980 for the media to dig up a clip of president trump saying he's a con man well he might not have been

00:31:18.180 president at the time and just say he picked him as a vp he called him a con man can you trust this man

00:31:23.980 and to be fair that would be a good argument that would be good propaganda for the democrats

00:31:28.420 it would be a bad thing to pick him so yes i don't think it's going to happen

00:31:32.980 then you've got um ben carson there he's been very loyal to trump he's another black man uh he

00:31:40.660 also wants a national abortion ban which is different to trump i was i was going to say as

00:31:46.020 much as i would personally support that i understand that in american especially blue states that's a

00:31:51.960 very difficult sell yes and i think that the worry would be that it would scare off potential

00:31:56.820 swing voters and trump's personal position i think is that he wants to leave it up to the states to

00:32:03.060 decide for themselves so a sort of states rights position which i think that being one of the

00:32:08.820 sticking points of the election is not potentially a good pick but he's still someone worth considering

00:32:15.840 maybe they can overcome those differences there so there's also a very large list here um of pretty

00:32:23.060 much all of the people you can bet on that are in the running and i'm going to go through some of

00:32:27.140 the picks because there are loads here right but i picked out some of the names that i think are

00:32:32.200 interesting mike pence why are people putting money on that of course it's not going to be mike pence

00:32:39.280 mike pence literally stabbed him in the back yeah i mean not literally but metaphorically

00:32:44.160 stabbed him in the back come on he literally metaphorically stabbed him in the back

00:32:47.800 uh robert kennedy jr um i can't see that happening he's talked about reparations for

00:32:53.960 black people in america i think extensive gun control as well yeah i don't think that's palatable

00:32:59.860 whatsoever for um any republican voter and i personally don't want to see him anywhere near the

00:33:05.500 white house trump is very proud of operation warp speed which kennedy is very critical of so that would

00:33:12.840 be a major sticking point between them yeah it might pull over some of those people in trump's

00:33:17.500 base who boo him every time he mentions operation war at warp speed when he's giving speeches but that

00:33:23.660 would be way too contentious another one that features quite prominently is tucker carlson but

00:33:29.240 my my thoughts on this i don't know whether you agree this is just my opinion is that tucker's got a

00:33:34.980 very good thing going at the minute and he actually might be more useful in his current role

00:33:39.180 to president trump future president trump um than he would be as a vice president and also i don't

00:33:48.080 think it's a very attractive prospect to then be dragged directly into the swamp when he's you know

00:33:55.280 making a lot of money to then be on a vice president salary yeah i well i i agree that right now

00:34:02.040 carlson is far more useful than he could be as vp i mean carlson is giving very high profile platforms

00:34:09.040 and giving interviews with people like steve sailor yes and so he's far more useful as a tool for

00:34:15.640 getting those sorts of people out there than he would be as vice president where he wouldn't be

00:34:19.540 able to do that i think the the sort of out the ballpark point for me on tucker carlson would be

00:34:26.460 that he might potentially upstage trump and we know that that won't be very appealing to trump because

00:34:33.000 he is a big name in his own right and he can stand on his own two feet he doesn't necessarily need

00:34:37.540 trump and so i think that will put trump off because of course part of the reason he picked

00:34:42.900 mike pence for his vp is that he was quite mild-mannered and understated and uncontroversial

00:34:48.780 in sort of a personal demeanor perspective and so he's everything that trump is not and you know

00:34:54.760 trump isn't stupid he knows that that sort of person is your ideal sort of second in command

00:35:00.740 he doesn't want someone who is going to be showing him up or potentially upstaging him

00:35:06.960 by being better than him which i think tucker has the potential of doing um i probably agree far more

00:35:13.560 with a particular ideologically far more with on far more things with tucker than i do trump

00:35:19.220 which is i like trump another person that people are considering is ron de santis which i think again

00:35:25.040 is someone who trump criticized pretty heavily and also i think that his inability to speak publicly

00:35:32.960 and his terrible um sort of pr while he was campaigning for president might prevent him even

00:35:39.740 though he has been a good governor of florida that's undeniable and you know he's he's actually

00:35:44.200 quite good to have down in florida as an asset and so taking him away would potentially be damaging

00:35:49.820 and not help the country then there's marjorie taylor green the representative for georgia i

00:35:54.340 think that it might help exacerbate how polarizing trump is seen as by having marjorie taylor green

00:36:00.740 i'm not entirely sure um but i don't see it necessarily happening then there's ted cruz which

00:36:05.980 again he ran for president got criticized by trump i don't see him leaving texas although i i also don't

00:36:13.320 know whether he would even accept a vp nomination but he's being discussed ivanka trump's even been

00:36:18.360 discussed trump's daughter um glenn youngking the governor of virginia has been considered chris

00:36:24.340 christie the former governor of new jersey has been considered paul ryan former speaker of the house

00:36:29.780 has been considered i don't see that happening personally um lindsey graham the senator for south

00:36:34.460 carolina i don't see that happening either um greg abbott um the um the governor of texas he did quite a

00:36:43.400 good job i feel um although i imagine that he's probably not going to be vp eric trump trump's

00:36:49.780 son has been considered um matt getz um representative of florida um he's you know one of the senior

00:36:57.480 figures in the republican party sure but i don't think he's quite right for trump necessarily steve

00:37:04.040 bannon of course the former white house chief strategist prison right now isn't he yeah so that's

00:37:08.800 gonna be difficult a bit difficult yeah i don't see it happening also for some reason people are

00:37:12.520 speculating that mitt romney the senator for utah who also lost to obama in 2012 i think everyone

00:37:17.860 knows who also is a never trumper he is yeah so i don't see that happening whatsoever i don't even

00:37:22.860 know why he's being considered josh hawley um senator for missouri is being considered which

00:37:28.400 is possible you know he's he's up and coming i think he's he's got good credentials behind him

00:37:35.020 and then two candidates that i don't candidates two candidates that are on the uh you know the

00:37:41.420 betting slips but i don't think you're going to get it candace owens and also kanye west and i've

00:37:46.660 grouped them together because i don't think they're going to be accepted for one reason and that is

00:37:50.460 trump's opinion on israel which uh both of them not big fans also candace has been getting very spicy

00:37:57.340 on twitter recently so that's not gonna happen and let's not forget kanye west did go on info wars and

00:38:03.320 explicitly say that he looked in a moment of absolute insanity that made alex jones cringe and

00:38:12.220 go straight to commercial said that he loves hitler so i think when trump's constantly battling that

00:38:19.340 omg he's the american hitler narrative neither of those picks would be great yeah i like that they're

00:38:26.520 on the ballot though why not why not put them on the slip for betting i don't know what's got into

00:38:32.340 people's heads if you want to throw money away i mean have a great time enriching the betters oh yeah

00:38:40.640 come on your betters your mental betters for for even considering that so let's talk about some of

00:38:48.880 the sort of um favorites at the minute so the first i'm going to talk about is jd vance um so he's the

00:38:55.300 senator for ohio and some of the sort of things in favor for him is he's a fresh face and a bit of an

00:39:00.960 outsider much like trump was in 2016 at least in the realm of politics obviously trump had name

00:39:06.060 recognition but also i don't think he's necessarily looking for that in a vp he just wants someone who

00:39:11.060 can get stuff done and isn't going to cause too many problems which i think is fair to say and maybe

00:39:16.320 be a good counterbalance to his uh questionable aspects of his personality trump i mean he also

00:39:23.440 wrote um wrote the book um the hillbilly elegy which is a memoir about his family life and uh this

00:39:30.300 was turned into a netflix original film in 2020 and um the film actually did very well uh i believe

00:39:38.140 glenn close's performance led to nominations at the academy awards the golden globe awards and the

00:39:42.300 screen actors guild awards and you can even still get hillbilly hillbilly elegy from uh mainstream

00:39:49.380 bookshops you can which is shocking to me hillbilly energy um and also the final thing i wanted to

00:39:56.280 mention is he has significant financial backing from a number of wealthy benefactors such as peter

00:40:01.100 teal so that might help i imagine so he does have some drawbacks as well um he only assumed political

00:40:08.580 office in the senate in january of 2023 which you know you want someone with a bit more experience like

00:40:14.880 say pence right he's been in the senate for a while he's an older gentleman he's still quite

00:40:19.300 young and uh he's also been criticized for his delayed response to the 2023 train derailment in

00:40:26.620 east palestine ohio you remember that story right with a chemical leak yeah you threw me off with east

00:40:33.640 palestine ohio yeah you didn't know that happened the palestinians have taken over ohio should have

00:40:41.060 known it's first israel then america it's like how you have birmingham or athens in america it throws

00:40:48.760 off europeans it really does i think there's a paris texas as well i mean there are even rural

00:40:54.320 devonshire towns that have towns in america and i was like that's so weird and the towns are bigger

00:40:59.340 than the original anyway uh tangent um he also did put through a bipartisan bill to prevent further

00:41:07.400 trained derailments from happening so he might have scraped some of his dignity back there but he did

00:41:13.400 work for cnn as a contributor in 2017 which might be a black mark against his name um obviously trump

00:41:19.420 voters don't like cnn my goodness i don't need to tell you that um and also some of trump's financial

00:41:25.340 backers don't like him which might be you know he might be overlooked as a sort of business decision

00:41:30.860 more than anything else to make you know the money work because obviously trump's losing money being in

00:41:36.380 the campaign so he does need some financial backers but moving on to the next person who i think um is

00:41:43.620 one of the leading favorites really is doug bagum who it's not really a big name is he have you heard

00:41:49.380 of doug bagum before nope he by gum i knew that was coming uh there we go but he is the governor of

00:41:56.860 north dakota right into your hands did you're too predictable harry um and he announced in january of

00:42:03.640 2024 that he would not run for governor again and he also has expressed interest in running for

00:42:08.660 president so his interests seem to be aligned here with trump's in that if he were vp then he would be

00:42:15.800 the favorite to take over from trump afterwards right i know it's only in your notes but i'm sure

00:42:23.180 it's a hundred million dollars but you've got his estimated net worth is a hundred dollars he is worth

00:42:28.660 more than a hundred dollars but that was just to jog my memory all right i know it's a hundred

00:42:33.500 million i prepared this yesterday but yes his estimated net worth is a hundred million dollars

00:42:38.620 not a hundred dollars as harry seems to think um and his last penny

00:42:43.820 but this is from his tech and venture capital companies and so this might be potential evidence

00:42:52.100 to suggest that he's harder to buy of course this is not a guarantee but it might be promising this is

00:42:57.700 one of the appeals of trump is that he was already a billionaire he doesn't necessarily need to bend

00:43:01.640 over backwards for all the money men because he can fund himself and um the gun agrees with trump's

00:43:08.020 position on abortion that it's up to states to decide he's very pro-gun rights which is you know

00:43:12.820 positive for republicans right he also deployed the texas national guard to the border with mexico a

00:43:18.820 number of times to assist um texas in preventing the illegals crossing which is obviously good

00:43:24.840 um and it shows that he's a sort of team player he's not just out for himself um and also since

00:43:31.420 dropping his presidential aspirations he's endorsed trump and has been campaigning for him which probably

00:43:36.820 helps and he's pretty mild-mannered and low-key which would not steal away attention from trump

00:43:42.420 which i feel like is quite similar to pence and this i think is why he's probably one of the favorites

00:43:47.760 because he seems like a similar sort of candidate and trump has said he's going to be an important

00:43:54.380 member of the next administration he just hasn't said what position and also in an interview trump

00:43:59.320 later said he would be very good as vice president so so he's got a ringing endorsement from the guy

00:44:04.800 himself yes which is probably why he's considered one of the favorites makes sense to me however there

00:44:11.280 are some cons he set a goal for north dakota to be carbon neutral by 2030 of course 2030 is a very

00:44:17.740 significant uh year if you know anything about the world economic forum as well as carbon neutrality

00:44:23.820 associated with that number that might raise some red flags uh with some people however he wants to

00:44:29.700 keep the fossil fuel industry going but he just wants to develop carbon capture infrastructure but

00:44:35.360 that's obviously not going to be popular with the republican base and i also think it's a bit

00:44:39.540 silly it shows that he perhaps doesn't know what he's doing um he has described republican platforms

00:44:47.160 on lgbt issues as divisive and divisional which is the same word said two different ways um however he

00:44:55.420 did sign a bill banning so-called gender affirmative care for minors okay so me if i give the benefit of

00:45:04.600 the doubt there if he's somebody who's going to come out with moderate rhetoric but actually

00:45:09.400 do what needs to be done with the legislative then that's that's that's one thing uh but i i hate

00:45:16.340 the uh oh it's divisive these people who want to pervert your children you need to be moderate with

00:45:23.160 them because you don't want to be divisive as if they're not the ones being divisive it's like

00:45:27.520 on the table in the first place like george bush coming out and saying actually i do negotiate with

00:45:31.720 terrorists there's some of them are good people which uh jeremy corbyn did say in the uk um but

00:45:38.880 anyway that is doug bagum and then let's have a look at tulsi gabbard who i personally don't think

00:45:44.980 is going to be considered she is the former representative for hawaii um she is a woman

00:45:49.800 and an ethnic minority if that matters to you and that might expand trump's voter base because people

00:45:55.820 vote along those lines also attracts horny dads that's true um she has both military and foreign

00:46:02.020 policy experience which probably helps and also her breaking from democrats might appeal to those

00:46:08.160 disillusioned with party politics more generally perhaps but i think that that's a bit of a stretch

00:46:13.140 i've seen that argument being banded around cons she was a democrat that's pretty simple

00:46:18.820 she endorsed bernie sanders and joe biden in 2020 yeah i don't see this going down well and

00:46:26.620 also if she was picked for her experience um there are more experienced republicans without that track

00:46:32.440 record of endorsing your opponents so i don't see it happening personally it'd be a bit of a curveball

00:46:39.020 it could still happen i do have to say i believe that she's come out and uh at least withdrawn her

00:46:45.620 old endorsement of biden she said that was a mistake i don't know if she said the same about

00:46:50.220 sanders but she said that the democrat party and joe biden are not anything that she supports now

00:46:55.740 i don't think people change too much in four years but at least she's retracted it i suppose

00:47:01.180 um so yes that's her and then christy noem is the final one i'm to do a bit of a spotlight on

00:47:08.060 um governor of south dakota pros she has a long history of supporting trump that much is undeniable

00:47:14.140 and her handling of the pandemic has been praised by many republicans she resisted mask mandates and

00:47:19.320 lots of things like that she was one of the state governors that did a lot also she's in her 50s and

00:47:25.760 look at her that's going to get the dads going she looks kind of scary if i'm honest she looks like

00:47:32.500 an apparition in a haunted mountain mansion that's very mean it is very mean but i'm telling it how i see

00:47:38.660 it but some consider her easy on the eyes um cons are that her support comes from a very similar

00:47:47.720 place as trump sort of in in the american populace and so if he wants to expand his voter base

00:47:53.340 there's so much overlap there that might not happen with her as a vp pick um she also got

00:48:00.580 criticized for admitting she shot her 14 month old dog because it was aggressive and couldn't be

00:48:05.200 trained in a recent um book which she got a lot of flack for people like dogs and even though i

00:48:13.280 understand you know i i know farmers i know you know like farm dogs and things like that i understand

00:48:18.820 why she did it it's gonna making excuses for dog shooters now i personally wouldn't have shot a dog

00:48:25.220 by the way to be clear but it's obviously going to put a lot of people off because people like dogs

00:48:33.340 people don't like shooting dogs and if people look at her and think she killed the dog what's

00:48:38.580 she going to do to us what's this haunted lady going to do to me is she going to page through my

00:48:45.680 wall and strangle me in her sleep my sleep i should say she's dreaming of you harry dreaming of killing

00:48:52.400 you well if she killed a dog maybe she is she hates you in particular but here are the candidates

00:48:59.280 um that's all of them pretty much that i think are in consideration it's probably going to be

00:49:04.800 one of the people i've mentioned today i don't know which one is for you to make up your mind

00:49:09.160 and speculate about um i don't know what you're thinking harry um insightful as ever

00:49:16.600 but yes i think it's going to be a very very important thing actually and because we know that

00:49:22.300 trump's not going to run another term after this uh that this is going to set the tone and tenor

00:49:27.700 of american politics for a considerable amount of time and so all eyes are going to be watching

00:49:32.900 who trump picks you know what i'm gonna i changed my mind yeah we'll go through some rumble ramps i'm

00:49:39.580 just gonna say i i enjoy i endorse the meme pick do it get kanye in get kanye in trump do it do it

00:49:46.920 it'd be funny he could wrap your public announcements he could be the opening set to your speeches it would

00:49:54.280 be amazing don't do that let's read through some of these sure so neo unrealist says i have a suspicion

00:50:00.820 trump may ruthlessly choose marco rubio as vp as he'd make winning hispanic vote likely uh something

00:50:08.020 trump seems to want to be able to claim he was very praising of rubio on tuesday sorry i've got hiccups

00:50:14.340 now that's all right that's all right um the shadow ban says uh carbon capture combined with nuclear

00:50:20.200 is the only realistic solution to climate change leftists want to cut down uh forests and strip

00:50:25.780 mine lithium for soda panels plus windmills yeah i feel like nuclear power is an obvious renewable

00:50:30.860 win because you know it doesn't take up that much land as opposed to lots of other things also

00:50:36.040 you know things involved in oil and gas it does destroy the environment actually harvesting it to

00:50:41.180 some extent um perhaps less so than nuclear unless of course you have you know a chenobel thing but you

00:50:47.420 know the technology is there now that it's not nearly as likely as it was um nitric psych um before

00:50:55.540 i make a bizarre charlie brown shirt shirt with harry mug design does the shape mean anything uh yeah if

00:51:04.060 you watch our twin peaks video that josh and i did you'll know that it's related to that it's what

00:51:08.540 something i got off etsy a twin peaks mug this is the design that you find in the black lodge which is

00:51:14.060 the supernatural realm found in that tv show and it's always a very striking design so i like to

00:51:18.800 get things on it so yeah watch that video watch that series and if you're going to make a charlie

00:51:23.900 brown shirt with it just be aware that that's what you're what you're doing ec was here fun fact

00:51:29.700 paris texas is named after paris tennessee

00:51:32.220 i wonder what paris tennessee was named after

00:51:36.540 um her clueless i assume uh yeah i imagine so it's it's american states all the way down um

00:51:45.180 her clueless um tulsi would lock in the win paraphrasing sticks

00:51:51.100 i i'm not convinced personally but well sticks is american so he probably has a more insider view

00:51:57.640 than we do but uh it's possible yeah never say never tulsi is popular and never never count out

00:52:05.040 the horny dad vote that's true if you can count on anything

00:52:08.520 anyway let's talk about alex jones so uh alex jones is still in trouble constantly in trouble

00:52:17.360 always in trouble with uh the media and the court system and with anybody who isn't a consistent alex

00:52:24.500 jones viewer to be perfectly honest he's very very entertaining but this is related to the sandy hook

00:52:30.000 school shootings which he reported on back in the day he stopped reporting on them for a long time

00:52:34.840 now i do not personally have any reason to believe that sandy hook was anything other

00:52:39.800 than a tragic school shooting as was reported by the media at the time and i didn't watch alex jones

00:52:47.780 coverage at the time either so i can't say explicitly what it was he said about it other

00:52:54.900 than that i have seen one or two clips that do seem to show him saying outright that it was a false

00:53:00.800 flag where it was all crisis actors and no children actually died in it he has since then come out and

00:53:06.000 said that he maintains that at the time his coverage that he was covering other people's reporting on it

00:53:13.020 and what other people were saying about it and that included the conspiracy angle of it and since then he

00:53:18.860 has come out shook hands with some of the parents of the children who died and said that he believes that

00:53:25.280 it was real he knows that it was real now since then people are still trying to make it sound as though

00:53:30.680 he's continually saying that the whole thing was fake because he has said that the media coverage the

00:53:36.120 smear jobs and the legal action that's been taken again taken against him since then is so obviously

00:53:42.320 overblown so obviously vindictive not just for the sake of settling defamation against him but to try and put him

00:53:50.140 out of business that the whole thing stinks of the deep state according to him and also he says it's

00:53:55.540 synthetic people take those quotes out of context and try and make it sound like he's still saying the

00:54:00.440 whole thing was a fake that's not what he's saying anymore but i can't speak to what he was saying in

00:54:05.660 the past so i have a couple of things to say here first and foremost i think that um what he said should

00:54:12.760 be covered under the first amendment it it was an event that was of national concern it was an event that

00:54:18.960 will inform political policy and if you start punishing people with potentially ridiculous

00:54:25.620 sums of money talking about these things then you stifle national debate and you weaken your country

00:54:30.500 and and that's that's something i'm not willing to to flinch on i mean even if you know the the thing

00:54:38.480 was genuine um it would be distasteful it would be insensitive it would be kicking the parents when

00:54:46.300 they were down which i wouldn't approve of um but i fully support people's right to say these sorts of

00:54:52.120 things even if they're not you know if you can't have distasteful speech then you can't have any

00:54:57.300 speech at all because everything is distasteful to someone and this is i think obviously a show trial

00:55:03.120 is to say look you can't say anything that the the state doesn't approve of we're going to destroy

00:55:10.120 this man to make an example to the rest of you and i think it's vile i think it's disgusting and i think

00:55:14.940 that um obviously people are out for blood and money and and also to speak of the government

00:55:21.260 reaction to it he is absolutely right that the government in america especially the more democratic

00:55:26.380 governments as it was at the time it was obama's government his administration do take advantage

00:55:32.460 of situations like this to try and push for more gun control and if you're going to talk about how

00:55:37.760 alex jones was distasteful kicking the parents when they're down of course you could make the same

00:55:42.520 argument about the government taking a situation like that and using it for political purposes to

00:55:48.300 try and push their own agenda you want to talk about dancing on the graves of children the government

00:55:52.000 does that whenever anything like this happens you can't convince me that there isn't a part of the

00:55:57.240 u.s administration administration in the u.s deep state that isn't on some level uh happy at least for

00:56:04.600 media purposes when something like this happens i mean come on it's the principle of never let a good

00:56:09.820 crisis go to waste isn't it exactly uh and again what's going on is defamation the suits that have

00:56:17.820 been put forward against him have been for defamation the sandy hook families claim that because of the

00:56:22.680 conspiracies that he was spreading back when it happened that led to harassment death threats rape

00:56:29.340 threats from random strangers who recognize them from the news coverage and threaten them on the street

00:56:34.680 what i would say because i agree with you that it needs to be something that's protected

00:56:38.300 under the first amendment especially when really at the root of what jones was saying was a criticism

00:56:43.560 of the government and the tactics that they use to try and pass legislation is if anybody needed

00:56:49.040 to have legal charges brought against them it was the people harassing those families well because of

00:56:54.120 course that's disgusting yeah well alex jones isn't responsible for the actions of other people

00:56:59.640 no alex jones is responsible for the actions of alex jones and no one else and you can be critical of

00:57:05.940 him for that but it's so clearly just been a political persecution ever since then of what's

00:57:11.120 going on and that's why you can tell just because of the fact that you can see in reports like this

00:57:15.260 from when the trial was still going on 22nd of october 2022 um in fact the trial wasn't even really

00:57:22.440 a trial because the court said that he hadn't been able to put in the proper documents and hadn't given

00:57:26.980 them the proper documents so they only brought a jury in because they wanted to settle the amount of

00:57:31.900 money that should already been given so the trial was a show trial because the judge already told

00:57:36.260 them well deliberate like you already know he's guilty how much money should we give these people

00:57:42.120 and uh you don't need to be a psychologist to know that if you frame something in that way

00:57:48.680 the natural human inclination is to be like well he's guilty then isn't he and what else are you

00:57:54.640 supposed to say when then what's the point in the trial exactly exactly and this is meme numbers

00:58:00.540 being thrown this is a report from the independent sandy hook families want alex jones to pay up

00:58:05.380 to 2.75 trillion dollars did it wrong you need to

00:58:11.300 2.75 trillion dollars yes thank you very much sorry um they get triost in powers

00:58:24.300 that's all right i've got to say your dr evil needs work but thank you anyway uh too much hair so

00:58:31.880 that's that's a meme number realistically at the time in 2022 i think that was slightly more than

00:58:38.060 the gdp of all of africa so they're asking so they were asking as an upper limit to be clear this was

00:58:45.060 an upper limit so it's a plaintiff's filing plaintiff's filings they said one calculation

00:58:50.200 among many was 2.75 trillion dollars so they're asking him to hand africa give me africa

00:58:56.920 why why are they supportive of colonialism this is terrible i know it's terrible it's horribly racist

00:59:03.080 but this figure was reached by multiplying the state's law up to five thousand dollars per

00:59:07.080 violation fined by the 550 million social media exposures jones's audience received on his facebook

00:59:13.100 youtube and twitter accounts over three years after the school shooting uh during the trial as as i

00:59:19.860 mentioned the victim's relative said that in testimony they were threatened and harassed for

00:59:24.020 years by people who believe the lies told on jones's show now of course that's terrible that's

00:59:27.980 terrible no innocent person especially after you've experienced a tragedy should experience

00:59:32.740 something like that on top of it but again the people you should be going after if you don't if

00:59:37.840 you haven't already are the people who harassed you are the people who threatened you not the

00:59:42.820 guy who made some absurd claims back in the day and has now taken all of that back and was

00:59:47.840 explicit saying do not harass these people um and then as a result of this because the number the

00:59:53.240 figure that it was brought down to because i think it was two trials at the same time one in

00:59:57.500 connecticut where the shooting took place and then one in texas where family members were as well

01:00:02.300 the number that they settled on between those two was about 1.5 billion dollars which is absurd

01:00:09.240 1.5 billion dollars just let throw that throw that out there billion dollars okay and they said that

01:00:19.740 he's he filed for bankruptcy following that because it could be used to wipe out debts but not if they

01:00:26.100 result from willful or malicious injury caused by the debtor jones's lies they they say in reuters

01:00:32.280 appear to meet that standard said susan block-lieb a professor of bankruptcy law at fordham university

01:00:38.320 school of law so this was an attempt to try and potentially get out of paying for this but it's

01:00:43.940 not going to work it wasn't going to work and so they've been haggling ever since and it seemed clear

01:00:48.600 as to why they're haggling they say well instead of 1.5 billion dollars you can pay 85 million dollars

01:00:55.220 8.5 million dollars per year over the course of 10 years and there'd been numerous looks into his

01:01:01.520 finances during the whole trial that found that he probably wouldn't actually be able to pay that

01:01:06.820 yeah i'm not surprised yeah he wouldn't be able to pay that so they they put a meme number out first

01:01:12.740 and then they go don't worry it will be more reasonable here's a slightly less big meme number

01:01:17.600 that you also aren't able to pay so what's the alternative he can't pay he can't file for bankruptcy

01:01:22.400 properly to get out of all this although bankruptcy is still something uh that he and um i think it's a

01:01:28.840 what's the name of it free speech technology or free speech solutions the name of the company the the

01:01:34.900 parent company that owns info was both alex jones personally and that company are both filing for

01:01:39.860 bankruptcy at the moment and they're going through litigation on how to sort all of that out but what's

01:01:45.240 the alternative well if you can't uh you can uh reorgan free speech systems is the name of it

01:01:53.340 uh they say the offer was made in jones's personal bankruptcy case in houston in a legal filing lawyers

01:01:58.740 for the family said that they believed the proposal was a viable way to help resolve the bankruptcy

01:02:02.880 reorganization cases of both jones and his company free speech systems now how would you imagine the

01:02:09.760 reorganization is going to look it's going to be gutted they're going to destroy it aren't they

01:02:16.780 yes that's seemingly what they're aiming for is they go here's this unreasonable number here's this

01:02:21.480 other unreasonable number oh can't pay up well we're going to have to take all of your assets from

01:02:25.340 you that includes your company and we get to do whatever we want with it and people say the

01:02:29.940 government isn't a mafia right yes so in a new bankruptcy plan uh free speech systems that it

01:02:35.720 could afford to pay creditors about four million dollars per year down from an earlier estimate of

01:02:40.740 seven million to ten million dollars annually the company said it expected to make about 19.2 million

01:02:46.100 dollars next year from selling dietary supplements clothing and other merchandising that jones promotes

01:02:51.180 on his shows while operating expenses including salaries would total about 14.3 million dollars

01:02:55.980 because despite being such a heavily censored platform info wars does good business by the

01:03:01.840 sounds of it mainly from all of those dietary supplements if you go on the website uh it's

01:03:05.900 actually quite a professional looking website his whole setup's very professional so yeah he makes

01:03:10.600 good money from it but not good enough money to really be able to to uh expend that and after this

01:03:15.960 after you're offered meme offers where it's just turning around to basically say through various

01:03:20.520 mechanisms we'll have to take your company you get other media smears going on which is a documentary

01:03:26.820 an hbo documentary being made about the situation uh called i think it's uh the truth versus alex jones

01:03:35.700 made by leaving neverland that was the michael jackson 2019 smear documentary by dan reed who spent

01:03:43.780 four years following the circus created by alex jones after he claimed blah blah blah so you know

01:03:50.500 that if hbo uh tate are making a documentary about something that's going to be perfectly neutral

01:03:56.100 and uh not swing to one side not smear not spin the whole situation in one direction tries to smear him

01:04:05.180 the whole way through as being somebody who's willfully lying willfully mr distorting the truth

01:04:10.520 purely so that he can sell his supplements there might be some truth to that but i'm not going to trust

01:04:15.520 this guy in hbo to tell me the truth about well yeah we do also know that hbo have told their fair

01:04:23.360 share of lies in their history to say the least yeah they certainly have so what happens next well

01:04:29.880 the judge ordered liquidation of conspiracy theorist alex jones personal assets so this was a federal judge

01:04:35.940 in front uh in texas and this is last month june 2024 ordered the liquidation of the conspiracy

01:04:42.760 theorist alex jones personal assets and was still deciding on his company's separate bankruptcy case

01:04:47.440 the decision could determine the future of his right-wing and conspiracy theory laden info wars

01:04:51.920 media platform as he owes still 1.5 billion dollars so the case for his bankruptcy from what i read in

01:05:00.540 other articles said that it was dismissed by the federal courts so it's gone to the state courts instead

01:05:05.960 who are still after the money and they're still going to have to seize his assets and one of the ways

01:05:10.220 that they're going to seize his assets is they're trying to seize his social media accounts

01:05:14.040 that's a bit weird isn't it that's the sandy hook families read their lawyers want his social media

01:05:21.800 accounts i mean i think raw egg nationalist has a has it put very well here which is it's not about

01:05:28.620 justice for the sandy hook families the same way that the government puppeteers the bodies of dead

01:05:33.780 children to try and push gun control legislation the government and the lawyers have been puppeteering

01:05:39.100 the sandy hook families since then and they might have been going along with it willfully because

01:05:43.400 they can make money from it i don't blame them if they can make a huge payday from it to be honest

01:05:47.720 but they've been puppeteering them to try and ruin alex jones and seize his company

01:05:51.720 whatever you think of alex jones's company info wars whatever you think of the of his persona

01:05:56.640 whatever you think of the honesty or accuracy of what he reports that's seemingly to me what it's

01:06:02.940 coming across as no i definitely agree yeah and uh now it's confirmed that the trustee plans are

01:06:10.820 attempting to shut info wars down a court appointed bankruptcy trustee has indicated plans to sell off

01:06:16.140 right-wing conspiracy theorist alex jones info wars media empire to pay some of so we'll still be on the

01:06:22.120 hook for some of it the 1.5 billion he owes in a court filing filed on sunday the trustee christopher

01:06:29.240 murray said he was planning to close operations of info wars owner free speech systems and liquidate

01:06:34.540 his inventory so this is the the largest suit ever conducted against an american citizen right isn't

01:06:42.500 it as far as i understand it i can only imagine so a private citizen like alex jones yes this is

01:06:47.180 an absurd amount of money and the families are as well trying to collect the money as soon as possible

01:06:52.700 which is before the company has had chance to sell its assets to pay them so that would potentially

01:06:58.840 mean a smaller payday and other courts have said that they've blocked that that motion but it's

01:07:04.100 very strange that they would pursue an approach that means they get less money but the company

01:07:08.360 shuts down quicker funny that isn't it yeah hmm that that is seemingly another politically motivated

01:07:15.880 aspect of this whole case and i don't i don't want to be liable for anything of course what happened

01:07:21.540 to the families is a tragedy and i can understand that after what happened to them they would want to

01:07:26.940 you know at least get some money for it or something but again the political aspects of this entire case

01:07:32.460 seems to be that there is a massive attempt to try and shut info wars down to the point where it's

01:07:37.920 working from reports that i've seen from alex jones's website and what is being reported in these

01:07:43.120 articles as well it seems that uh he says here going to try and move forward and maximize the amount

01:07:48.520 of money we can make at info wars to to then have a wind down so it may be a matter of months it may

01:07:55.220 be another year or two it matters how long that this ends up getting dragged on but it seems that

01:08:00.180 info wars might end up shutting down because of all of this so yeah nice white pill for everybody there

01:08:07.480 sorry uh again i i'm not always uh alex jones's biggest fan but he's at least entertaining and he

01:08:14.820 tries to tell the truth i don't think he deserves all that though no he certainly doesn't before we

01:08:20.200 get on to the video comments i'll read neo unrealist who for another dollar has put in a rumble chat

01:08:24.740 rumble rant thank you very much consider a defamation judgment which in theory the victims are dead

01:08:29.840 at most should cap how much they earn in a lifetime how could jones do as much damage as 1990s era

01:08:36.760 u.s national government budget well he couldn't clearly clearly he couldn't it's a meme number it's a meme

01:08:44.360 number so they have excuse to seize his assets and shut info wars down absolutely go to the video

01:08:51.540 comments i suppose so one of my workmates the other day was asking me whether or not he should

01:08:57.420 leave australia and go to the uk considering that uh financially uh australia is going through a

01:09:04.140 downward spiral especially with the housing crisis which has never been great i mean rent here is very

01:09:10.180 high and when you want to buy a house you have to be at least a millionaire i told him no considering

01:09:15.860 that the situation over there is worse and considering that speech is very restrictive in

01:09:20.600 the uk and even a mild comment to actually get you arrested yeah well i think that was pretty good

01:09:28.000 advice and although i i think uh if a mild comment would get you arrested we would have been arrested

01:09:32.940 a hundred times over um you're right about the housing market and if anything lots of brits go

01:09:37.860 over to australia and i think the standard of living i've looked at the economic numbers

01:09:41.720 is higher in australia than it is in britain so uh yeah if anything look at the flow of british

01:09:47.780 people to australia as a sort of sign that yes things are potentially much better in australia than

01:09:53.220 vice versa obviously the majority of us believe in freedom and equality the freedom to love who

01:10:01.620 you love the freedom to be safe from gun violence the freedom for a woman to make decisions about her

01:10:06.980 own body not having her government tell her what to do fairness is an illusion designed to create disorder

01:10:12.740 absolutely correct anarchy is the only fairness well now i'm joking i i will say i i am a person who

01:10:26.840 aspires to a british idea of liberty and freedom i would like to return to a time that ajp taylor

01:10:34.520 describes back in his history of england between 1914 and 1945 where he talks about how in 1914 right

01:10:41.500 before the great war the most interaction the average englishman had with his local government

01:10:46.320 was the postman i would love to return to that kind of time yes but free uh freedom rhetoric does

01:10:54.460 cut both ways because the left can turn it back around like that but then and then it just gets

01:10:59.640 into gets into quibbling about semantics sadly yeah i much prefer to frame it not as i am free to do

01:11:06.540 this rather than the government has no right to do this and i think that when you put it in

01:11:11.420 those terms you're not conceding to the same leftist rhetoric it's just saying yeah i don't

01:11:16.820 this is over the line for me you need to back off

01:11:19.360 for my area unsurprisingly afzal khan won his seat now the labor vote was massively split due to the

01:11:29.640 islamists and the green party and the workers party of great britain unsurprisingly mr khan references

01:11:34.800 gaza in his victory speech however the only footage of the victory that i can find comes from pakistani

01:11:40.840 news media

01:11:41.740 oh but they're just as british as the rest of us guys if if anything they're probably more british

01:12:00.320 than us because they truly represent our islamic values inshallah brother inshallah mashallah friends

01:12:06.500 bo i'm looking forward to working with you i was actually a bit worried that the email i sent you

01:12:13.860 would have been a bit overwhelming it was quite a essay but i can't wait to see what you make

01:12:20.180 we have told bo that um this video comment has arrived and and so he has seen it i believe but

01:12:29.100 we're just playing it for the sake of the audience but it's also great thank you cooper for helping out

01:12:33.500 bo he's mentioned his books before as a sort of dream of that he wants to do and it's nice to see

01:12:38.960 him pursue that really and it's great that you're helping him out so yeah um i get enormous credit to

01:12:45.400 you for uh helping him achieve that i suppose i hope it all goes well yeah i think what you're doing is

01:12:50.540 valuable because you're actually offering what we often suggest which is a different opportunity for

01:12:56.500 people who are creative to get their work out there outside of the mainstream which is always a

01:13:02.240 good thing and bo mentioned on the podcast yesterday that he's in the middle of going back through one of

01:13:06.300 his old novels getting it prepared and in the right shape to be able to send to you should we give him

01:13:11.720 a plug should we do it what's for a cscooper.com.au is it there's a beep in there that was that was

01:13:20.540 that was my knee what is your knee beeping harry you're a fed he's wearing a wire oh no no my knee

01:13:28.400 knocked against the under monitor here and it's a bit soon as you mentioned cscooper.com.au

01:13:33.240 he tried to censor me carl's got new anti-pigging censorship in there's a little air horn that's

01:13:40.560 going to play is that uh all the video comments i believe so yes so we have written comments now

01:13:48.300 and it'll be yours first i believe harry oh we got general comments that i'll read yep yep george

01:13:52.940 happ says off topic but my islander magazine arrived yesterday and i'm really enjoying it

01:13:56.580 i knew the articles will be great but i didn't expect the awesome design rory did a fantastic job

01:14:01.320 making it a time capsule to the 90s oh we did miss one carry on carry on johnson's pulling one up as

01:14:08.960 well oh that sounded a bit weird didn't it pulling up a video comment um um that ad at the end needs

01:14:14.540 to be a real thing oh the donald trump video game yeah i really want that i i was with rory as he was

01:14:20.520 designing that and as it was all coming together i thought damn i need that game rory's next big

01:14:26.320 project is developing just he's learned to make magazines now he's got to learn game design

01:14:31.180 it's simple enough right how this entire enterprise is just a project to educate rory in all of the

01:14:36.860 world's industries next we'll get him speaking english properly that'll be the hardest of all

01:14:41.460 no chance um rachel loves you says harry and josh hosting together is always a dream team for me

01:14:46.500 especially if trump is a topic i'm ready to be entertained lol coffee is ready to be enjoyed

01:14:52.160 well that's very kind of you thank you i hope that's a damn fine cup you've got there

01:14:55.860 also it i was saying before we came on air that i was actually enjoying looking forward to doing this

01:15:01.840 podcast because it's so was i it's nice don't say it's so begrudgingly so so was i i was being

01:15:08.220 sincere i'm i'm not used to you being sincere see you know we're one of the rare people that are

01:15:15.620 actually more hostile on camera than we are off camera you know what josh i've decided you're a

01:15:20.380 twat i knew it that's much better i feel more comfortable now um north fc zuma says here's my

01:15:25.780 obligatory lads lads lads minus connor comment um the wigan survivalist says uh have received my copy

01:15:32.660 of islander harry's poor shaming the agent 47s aka bb dades salesmanship worked amazing work lads

01:15:40.140 give credit to rory for the art and editing i hope this will be a regular issue when i'm doing the

01:15:44.880 poor shaming i need to start styling myself after the fat the fat pig in communist propaganda

01:15:50.720 whenever i'm poor shaming you that's what i need to represent you've been doing good job getting the

01:15:57.780 build oh i've lost weight you have i've lost like six kilograms since april you've been doing very

01:16:05.240 well harry thank you thank you there you go i i insult you then i pull it back and i insult you

01:16:10.080 and i pull it back this is his gaslighting technique you can't be mad at me because i'm sometimes nice

01:16:15.280 to you keeps negging me and i keep doing everything he asks me to do afterwards it's strange it's the

01:16:21.720 any reason i studied psychology was just to enhance my evil let's watch this video comment sure

01:16:28.520 you

01:16:51.720 that looks lovely i'm getting a very strong urge to swim at the minute that's really clear water

01:17:02.420 that's lovely oh i need to get out of swindon they don't have water that clear anywhere down south

01:17:10.200 no not even out of taps anyway how's joe holding up yeah i'll uh again bolsonaro pilling right here

01:17:19.320 except now with added extra harry eating the kfc bucket all by himself while josh watches

01:17:24.460 so i'm all by myself but you're watching presumably i'm not a person anymore no i assume you're out of

01:17:30.960 the shop like with binoculars from a bush somewhere watching me well he says there's a reason why

01:17:37.400 throughout history powerful people have wanted weakened infant rulers it allows for their domination of

01:17:43.320 the state without accountability joe biden is no more than a rubber stamp to those around him

01:17:47.880 as long as he gets to sit in the big chair and donald trump doesn't he'll do anything made of

01:17:52.100 uh made for him yeah sounds about right now we've got another one josh firm stripped down to his

01:17:59.240 knickers and lathered in big mac sauce i told you not to tell anyone about that you're meant to keep

01:18:05.980 that private these are getting excessively esoteric with there being millions of hispanics moving to

01:18:12.460 america both legal and illegal they will if nothing changes soon end up a majority hispanic

01:18:18.400 that will be catastrophic making the u.s more like the unstable south american countries full of

01:18:23.440 corruption coups and civil wars like mexico for instance if your country is full of mexicans

01:18:29.640 you might end up being mexico which seems to be the case already for a state like california

01:18:35.000 that will i think at current rate end up being a separatist state yeah new mexico is going to be a

01:18:41.060 very prophetic name soon enough as well it's just going to be mexico new new mexico yeah soon

01:18:46.980 yeah and that's the thing i was it's interesting because callum was uh callum of all people showed

01:18:52.920 up on lauren chen yesterday being interviewed by her and he was speaking and i think it was very good

01:18:58.180 about how in countries like he was visiting recently like zimbabwe and south africa you find that

01:19:05.180 because of how multi-ethnic it is all of the democratic parties end up being ethnic head

01:19:11.340 counts of whichever constituency they're representing the same way as is starting to happen over here where

01:19:17.100 you're starting to get the green party and labor party the workers party whatever candidates they're

01:19:23.000 fielding that if it's in a majority muslim neighborhood they'll field a muslim candidate and

01:19:28.480 it just ends up being an ethnic head count wait so you're saying that if um an ethnically homogenous

01:19:34.060 country opens its borders to a foreign population that it makes politics impossible yes that's

01:19:39.900 terrible on an unrelated note i saw a report we mentioned the economists earlier they did some

01:19:45.780 polling and found that most young people in south africa don't want democracy anymore they want

01:19:50.900 somebody who will keep the electric running which they don't get with their current democratic party

01:19:55.140 system get the red coats on lads it's time for round two here we go boys irania you gotta you gotta

01:20:02.220 prepare for some new arrivals we're gonna expand uh but yeah that's what that's what california is

01:20:07.800 gonna end up being that's what um new mexico is gonna end up being is they're going to be

01:20:13.040 mexican states and all the leftists who voted for the policies that let it in who let it go that way

01:20:18.820 are gonna go oh i don't like living here anymore i wonder why that is no self-reflection they'll move

01:20:24.280 to texas and vote for more mexicans and the process will continue until i don't know north dakota is

01:20:31.320 the only remaining state they've got like uh the federal reserve policy of just printing lots of

01:20:37.840 money you're just gonna produce more mexicans print mexicans they're just at the border being

01:20:44.640 printed sent over by george soros 3d how to destroy a society in three easy steps uh biggie bigfoot says

01:20:53.980 do you think they're intentionally allowing biden to decline in order to eventually replace him with a

01:20:57.660 preferred leader who wouldn't have otherwise won the nomination or election i think at first it was

01:21:02.600 a case where they were eager to have him in because he was so easily manipulated and because he as as

01:21:07.860 somebody else has mentioned he can just rubber stamp things for them but now that it's become a big pr issue

01:21:14.000 and they can't ignore how bad he is you can see from the mainstream coverage that they want him out

01:21:19.140 they want him out and they want somebody who's already established who already is on the same track as

01:21:25.020 everybody else for what they want to do but who can actually give a decent pr and media appearance

01:21:30.440 whereas biden has an ego even if he can't remember anything else about himself he can still remember

01:21:36.360 that he's got a huge ego so i don't think it's going to be that easy uh harry eating kfc bargain

01:21:42.260 bucket again i'm getting pretty fat today you need to let off those buckets i do says the democrats have

01:21:48.780 no choice but to run either joe biden or kamala harris the democrats will lose the millions already

01:21:53.220 raised for campaign if they're not chosen and at least four states don't have enough time to change

01:21:58.000 their ballots before november again maybe they'll lose or maybe we'll get some um i said reinforcement

01:22:04.280 last time what was the name that they gave it fortify fortification yeah this is not barring any

01:22:10.140 fortification ramshackle otter crone says she just read the part in brackets like it's fact she said it

01:22:17.200 herself uh not crying don't worry yeah says joe biden had two massive brain aneurysms in february

01:22:23.580 1988 which he never fully recovered from this seems to have been conveniently forgotten i did not know

01:22:29.540 about that i mean i've seen footage from him from the 90s and even from 12 years ago in 2012 where he

01:22:35.120 seemed much more cogent but i wouldn't be shocked if those over the long term have had an impact on how

01:22:41.540 we see him today okay who will be trump's vp a little bargain bucket harry again um these are

01:22:49.860 all good candidates josh but you're forgetting one contender as trump's vp kanye west i didn't forget

01:22:54.500 kanye west i'm supporting it you know why not you're gonna have to come out with a public apology soon

01:23:00.920 enough sorry joe biden being the president means that they're a joke country so lean into the joke

01:23:07.660 just go full comedy act i feel like we're in a very big glass house at the minute i'm just

01:23:14.060 yes yay who cares i'm just imagining it now he gets up on stage i'm not gonna tell you who the donors

01:23:21.640 were they were a jewish donor i can see it i can see it already derek power says i have a grudge against

01:23:31.400 marco rubio because he's the one who was advocating for the u.s to adopt permanent daylight time i'm sure

01:23:37.640 he could make a good vp but i can't overlook that stance i respect that immensely um what's

01:23:45.340 permanent daylight time is it similar to um how we switch from greenwich meantime to british summertime

01:23:52.880 i would i would assume so but i like the idea instead that he's trying to make it permanently day

01:23:58.260 all the time the sun never goes down he's like a reverse vampire there's like the reverse of mr burns

01:24:04.760 when he tries to block the sun to be fair if a party put in their manifesto they're going to get

01:24:10.960 rid of the hour change you know i don't want the government to tell me what time it is all right

01:24:16.660 i'm gonna it's gonna be whatever time i say it is i'm not getting i'm not no bureaucrat josh

01:24:22.660 adjusting all the watches and clocks that he has in his possession once a year shaking his fist damn

01:24:28.340 big government get me again yes and unironically arizona desert rat says y'all should have heard

01:24:37.720 tim scott's rebuttal to biden's state of the union speech it was rather epic i didn't in fact i did

01:24:43.540 hear a clip of it actually and it was good to to give him credit um as far as gabbard she left the

01:24:49.220 democrat party because of all the crazy stuff they're pulling she's a bit like rfk junior when it comes to

01:24:53.840 her politics but she's generally honest and follows through with what she says and she wants to get

01:24:59.260 done yeah i mean she's obviously one of the least egregious people that have been a member of the

01:25:04.220 democratic party in politics for the past i don't know 20 years which uh is not a high bar but is

01:25:10.800 something i suppose chase ball says uh we've heard what you think would be trump's best vp picks but what

01:25:17.120 would be the funniest vp picks i believe there isn't an extraordinary slim possibility of a tie between

01:25:22.000 both trump and biden which would result in a trump presidency and a harris vice presidency which

01:25:27.320 sounds like a setup for a sitcom i was going to say if he announces kamala harris she switched sides

01:25:33.400 everyone no she doesn't she hasn't even agreed to it he just announces he just gets a a sack and puts it

01:25:40.660 over her head just takes her away you're my vp now i can i forgot which is it um one of the stands

01:25:50.180 you know between china and russia that's how they actually get wives is they put a sack over their

01:25:55.240 head and that's genuinely true that is an actual custom mongolia okay oh that doesn't have a

01:26:01.460 mongolia stan instead i think for a joke he should announce hillary clinton as his vice presidential pick

01:26:06.960 that would be hilarious wouldn't it that would be amazing i don't know whether hillary would actually

01:26:12.620 take him up on it that'd be hilarious wouldn't it she's so i can see it lured by power it's the

01:26:17.280 closest you're gonna get to the white house hillary that's quite good danny delito says if

01:26:24.460 america could be um abbott governor of texas it would be hilarious since the man is a paraplegic

01:26:30.140 and in a wheelchair the progressive stack would lose its mind yeah they won't be complaining about

01:26:35.240 how he goes you know up a slope in you know how trump was walking up this icy slope in the middle

01:26:40.960 of winter and they're like look at him he's he's infirm he's in a wheelchair they're not you're not

01:26:45.980 gonna get that are you kevin fox says don't forget kanye might be roomies with bannon if today's news

01:26:51.080 pans out about him assaulting his half-naked arm candy he takes everywhere oh jeez i didn't hear

01:26:56.420 about i didn't hear about that either well yeah half-naked arm candy does he have this time because

01:27:02.160 it looks like a few it looks like a clone of kim kardashian man has terrible taste in women

01:27:08.020 he goes for um women whose body shape is basically this figure there so man has tasteless anyway

01:27:18.520 um one more comment then i suppose we can move on to the deep state versus info wars um hector rex

01:27:24.400 says i have it on good authority that trump has selected a certain eastern european youtuber

01:27:28.240 with a squeaky voice as press secretary what v saracon

01:27:34.740 you just sound like the compare the market advert yeah so does britain he does actually doesn't he

01:27:42.140 yeah clearly should i do one more that was quite a short one yeah go on uh bradley higgins says

01:27:47.880 just to mention josh i believe that ronda santis can't run it as florida governor as he has termed

01:27:52.820 out now i feel like uh like um i remember that from a while ago when the primaries were going on

01:27:59.340 yeah i think he's governor till 2028 maybe maybe slightly before that he's gonna he's gonna land

01:28:05.920 on his feet isn't he politically speaking i imagine he's he's done a good enough job and he's senior

01:28:10.320 enough that he's gonna find some role in republican politics if they give him some lessons on how to

01:28:17.460 talk like a charming normal person he might even have a decent chance are they doing those lessons

01:28:22.800 because i need to take those yeah i know um texas gal says i remember when sandy hook happened

01:28:28.260 watching the coverage live and there's no denying it was weird as hell they're going after info wars

01:28:33.120 as a warning you will push the narrative or we will destroy you question should be why now i can't

01:28:39.320 say about the coverage i i'm given what's happened to alex jones i'm not going to say anything about

01:28:45.500 the coverage the question should be why now well raw egg nationalists suggested in his tweet that it

01:28:52.620 was more to do with um uh because alex jones helped get trump in according to raw egg nationalists

01:28:59.680 so maybe it's something to do with that um michael brooks says there are people online that question

01:29:04.820 the holocaust which they have the right to do and no one cares but your question sandy hook and they

01:29:09.480 will take it all away from you so my question is why aren't we allowed to question the shooting

01:29:13.000 i will have to correct you there and say that most european states have laws that mean you go to prison

01:29:19.720 if you question the holocaust i think the uk and america are two of the only countries within

01:29:27.000 what you could call broadly the west that don't have laws although even then in the uk you'd probably

01:29:32.680 get caught under some hate speech legislation yeah there are other things that they can get you on

01:29:37.120 you know you can be arrested under pretty much any legislation if it can be argued in a court of law

01:29:42.680 which most of the time it can yeah for instance um uh this isn't to say anything about the man's

01:29:49.280 character or to endorse him at all but uh david irving was arrested in when he went to austria

01:29:54.880 um in the 90s or mid 2000s it might have been uh because they called him a holocaust denier and

01:30:01.340 they put him in prison for over a year they jailed him so yeah there are laws against it i just wanted

01:30:06.440 to make that clear austria doff protest of too much lancia enjoyer says jones was fined more than

01:30:11.720 boeing for actually killing people because of incompetence yeah it's it's ridiculous the man

01:30:17.160 said some things about what happened that were wrong and the families can obviously take issue with that

01:30:26.460 but if they wanted to pursue legal action against anybody it should have been against the people who

01:30:30.800 were actually harassing them and threatening them based ape i'll read the last one here i watched this

01:30:36.020 trial at the time because i have way too much time on my hands during closing arguments the prosecution

01:30:40.160 literally said to the jury this isn't about alex jones it's about making sure info wars is taken off

01:30:44.860 the air i was shocked he just came out and said it also harry when are you next on um let me check

01:30:51.340 that for you uh you asked me this given the secrets he dm'd me last night asking me um next wednesday

01:31:01.100 by the looks of it right now according to the schedule there we go yeah so take it away josh thank

01:31:10.120 you for watching we'll be on tomorrow i'll be on tomorrow just as a spoiler with some guests some

01:31:15.680 special guests oh yes i agree with you and goodbye

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 11, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #954

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