The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #955
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Summary
Reform UK has replaced Ben Habib with Zaid Youssef Yousuf and Lewis Brackfell-Brown, and there's a new leader, but what does this mean for the future of the party? And what will it mean for Keir Starmer?
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 12th of July 2024 and I'm very
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pleased to be joined by Godfrey Bloom and Lewis Brackfell back both back by popular demand
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actually and we saw lots of positive comments in the audience when we announced that you'd
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be appearing together so it's going to be a fun one I think and today we're going to be talking
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about reform conforming in that they have replaced Ben Habib who has been a loyal party man
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who worked quite hard as I understand it to campaign for reform with Zaire Youssef who
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sort of parachuted in donated lots of money to the party and now has taken his position
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as well as Lewis is going to be telling us about his freedom of information requests to the UK
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government about geoengineering I suppose and then finally we're going to end off on a lighter note
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and we're going to be looking at some of the articles talking about Keir Starmer being sexy
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which I after covering the Hunter Biden laptop story is probably the second worst thing I've had to
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look at since working here for the past four years and yes please please pray for me
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there are some things you just can't unsee but anyway I do have an announcement to make before
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we get started we're going to play all of the video comments next week because Samson is on his
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own we have both of our video editors on holiday and he's been running the shop and Carl will also be
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back from America next week so you'll get to send them to the big man rather than me who you're
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probably sick of because this is my fourth time this week I've been on the podcast which is actually
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the busiest week I've ever had working here also of course we're doing the rumble rants so if you
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want to send in questions for our guests or just comment generally on the stories we're covering we're
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going to read them after we actually cover them which is something new that we're doing as well as
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we do have lads hour this afternoon where we're going to be talking about rejected YouTube video
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ideas it's going to be a silly one we're going to have a bit of fun as it's Friday and I suppose I
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may as well get into it nice so there was this story back at sort of June time I believe that Muslim
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millionaire gives major donation to Reform UK and this Muslim millionaire goes by the name of Zaya
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Yusuf and he is a tech entrepreneur and he donated 200,000 pounds as I'm aware you know it's always
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difficult to tell but I did a little bit of digging and I think that's the amount he donated which is
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not exactly a small amount particularly to a budding party this is the first election as with Nigel at the
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helm of Reform UK that has happened and so they needed that money I think I think that's fair to say
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and Mr Yusuf actually said the party leadership feel very strongly that we should protect British
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values and put British people of all religions and creeds first and this you know somewhat
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uncontroversial statement did set off some alarm bells because it was wrapped up in the language of
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multiculturalism and of course I don't believe in the the law discriminating against people of course
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however when someone wraps up language in that way it seems to suggest that perhaps your dedication to
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ending things like mass immigration for example is not as strong as someone else and it is worth also
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mentioning as well that in the Reform Manifesto it's an oft overlooked part but Beau Dade a former
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Reform candidate that was one of the purged candidates our very own Beau put me onto the fact that
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there was a part in there that said ban Sharia law not sure how that was going to happen but seems
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like a little bit of a juxtaposition when you have a Muslim coming in although I don't necessarily think
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he's you know joining the Mujahideen or ISIS anytime soon I don't think he's that kind of Muslim
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to his credit I suppose but they have mopped up a fair amount of money leading up to the election
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this story I believe was from three days ago and they got about 600,000 pounds in one week's donations
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which is quite good really for a party of their size but I was somewhat disappointed by this this is
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what led me to cover this really I saw Ben Habib share on Twitter this message and I'll read it and
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then we'll talk about what we actually think of it I've just been informed by Nigel Farage that Richard
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Tice is taking over as deputy leader of the party consequently I no longer hold that position
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I'm considering my position more generally in light of this change I have long held concerns
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about the control of the party and the decision making process I'll reflect on all of this the
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key for me is that Reform UK stays true to the promises made to the British people the movement
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we have created does not belong to us it belongs to the people we are obliged and indebted to the
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British people so first of all most um Godfrey what do you make of this well uh there's an awful
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lot of stuff I don't know there's a lot of there's a there's a lot I don't know uh so I need to flag
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that up straight away I'm not in the know I'm not behind the scenes on this at all of course and
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neither am I for that matter but I would say uh as a almost found a member of UKIP years ago
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this surprises me not Ben Habib is now a member of a very big club and if you remember UKIP started
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with um in 2004 I think it was with something like 11 MEPs and when they finished that session
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it went down to five MEPs and then the next session started in 2009 I think it was and the UKIP members
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were or MEPs were 14 uh and finished with five um Nigel does he's very articulate uh and he's a good
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platform performer uh and he has a lot of political nous but every now and again drops the pass and I
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fancy this is a dropped pass it's a problem uh that we saw in UKIP and it looks like it might go
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the same way Nigel's idea of of management uh is based on Stalin Joseph Stalin management and if
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anybody sort of gets in your way um it's the gulag for you and I suspect there's probably more to this
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than meets the eye because Ben Habib is an articulate intellectual well-read individual
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and Joe Stalin would have certainly got rid of him on that basis alone uh you know you don't want
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people and it reminds me of Julius Caesar a little bit uh if you remember I'm I'm going from uh my
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Shakespeare interpretation of Julius Caesar um when he complained that he was surrounded by thin men and
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he wanted fat men around him he trusted fat men he didn't trust thin men and I think we've got a
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sort of a game here that uh there's a lack of trust in somebody who's looking a bit too clever a bit too
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sharp a bit too erudite a bit too articulate uh and maybe he might take the spotlight of the leadership
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and that was very much the UKIP game that's how it happened it could be that because taking him up on
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the point of the 200,000 pound uh donation to reform by modern standards that really isn't very much
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I mean I could write a check for 200,000 or it wouldn't please my my wife she would want to spend
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it on booze and horses uh but um it's not a big sum by modern standards really not really I suppose so
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and my my concern is that um as we're going to get on to later that it's almost like a return to the
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19th century of of you know buying commissions uh in the military yes buying commissions and if you
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actually study your military history which I have of course I'm a military historian um you didn't
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get particularly many bigger dummies whether they bought it or they didn't I mean of course
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there was no buying more commissions and the generals we got broadly speaking the first war were
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pretty rubbish yes and so on and so forth so it doesn't always necessarily follow uh but I think
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back to nearer analogy here would be lloyd george's uh sale of honors uh lord lloyd george the overt sale
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of honors I mean it's always been going on that sort of thing but lloyd george didn't even bother to
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hide it and I think that's really what we're dealing with um but 200,000 I don't know has reform
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sold its soul for a mess of pottage seems like it may have actually it's uh certainly ben habib is
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no mark anthony is he lewis what do you think yeah I mean echoing um what godfrey said about ben habib
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being very articulate uh he's very popular as well I mean this post has generated 3.3 million views
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alone 7.7 thousand likes as well um ben habib has always been I think one of the favorites within
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reform just as a candidate as someone who can get his point across very eloquently very straight to
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the point so I'm sensing a kind of it's stealing the limelight a bit off of certain few whether it
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be a candidate or whether it be a leader of this particular party so like I said I think we don't
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know the behind the scenes of what's going on I'm I'm very disappointed actually uh is the honest
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truth I'm disappointed that a ben habib wasn't elected which is gutting because I think he would
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be a fantastic um uh candidate and leader so I guess there's the looming threat there um and on top of
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that I'm gutted that that they've decided to demote him just on the basis that he's he what I believe he
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wasn't elected and and that's probably the decision that they decided to make because he's not he's not
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within parliament he's not got that limelight the rest of them do with with lee anderson and this new
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guy as well that was elected in uh ashfield was it ashfield and the new guy the one oh yeah basildon
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basildon that's the one um that's the one yeah I've got a mate that lives there actually oh there
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we are that echoes that yeah um so yeah yeah I'm gutted for him personally but I'm sure that there
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is more to this than meets the eye and I'm sure we're going to hear a bit more very soon I would
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imagine so yes and um as you were saying you know he's he's well regarded amongst reform voters and I
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think that we need only look across the Atlantic to one of Nigel Farage's friends I suppose you can
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call him Donald Trump and he takes a very similar line of he he likes to have people under him that
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are quite understated that um will not outshine yeah yeah so he likes people who um you know not
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necessarily are the most articulate speakers because he likes to um hold that position for himself and it
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might be in fact he's been talking to Trump and then exchanging political strategies with him
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because of course he's been over there and helping him campaign at some point um and this is one of
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the things that Trump might have suggested he do yeah I think it's a very big mistake um I was just
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telling Lewis before we went on air when I was in the army uh which is a long time ago bows and arrows
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and stuff like that but uh I used to surround when I was a squadron commander or a platoon commander
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whatever the rank I happened to get to eventually the reason I managed to get to field rank eventually
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was because because I picked the best corporals and the best sergeants I could possibly get hold of to
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cover my ass and you need if you're going to be a team you need the most you need the best people
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around you it doesn't detract from you at all it actually enhances you as the leader gosh he knows
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how to pick good men and we had a general inspection once general learman uh well-known general at the
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time inspected my training squadron and he said um he said this is one of the best training squadrons
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I've ever seen I said well it's nothing really to do with me better meet my sergeant major
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introduced my sergeant major and of course people think there are officers and managers who think that
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detracts from your situation it doesn't because general learman got in the car and when he went
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back to uh command headquarters wherever he went back to he wants people who know how to pick good
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people yeah that's the key uh and I think if you do that you move forward uh very quickly uh and we had
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this problem in uh UKIP where uh Nigel insisted that you could not be a spokesman for UKIP on tv or
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anywhere else basically unless uh you were an MEP an elected MEP well first time around our MEPs were
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fairly van ordinaire to be frank hearts in the right place good people uh but we had recently
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retired naval captains very recently retired who could have spoken on defense we had a a keen UKIP who
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was a surgeon young surgeon in Edinburgh uh and so on we had some really tough but they weren't
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elected MEPs they were just very good people and we should have fielded them but again um
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always reminds me years ago of the evening standard cartoon and you won't have anybody watching this
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who will remember that it goes back quite a long way and there was uh JJ that the the column was JJ
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and he was a fat cigar smoking businessman CEO and his secretary was called Miss Finch and he had a
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uh you know all those little buzz throughs and he flicked through and he said Miss Finch he said I
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want you to trawl through the organization and find somebody who's bright attractive competent
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somebody who's capable of taking my place and sack him
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and that's what I smell that's what I smell fair play yeah so um we have actually spoke to Ben
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Habib before he spoke to Beau while he was still a candidate for reform uh before Tice purged him
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thanks to hope not hate um and so if you want to hear him speak for himself this is a good place to
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go it is free you don't have to pay for it it is a full interview and uh I feel like it's certainly
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worth watching but Carl um you know my boss um posted a video in support of Ben Habib um in which Ben
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Habib uh thanked Carl oh that's nice which I think is nice because Carl basically said much the same
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as we've said uh he's worked hard and you know he doesn't necessarily deserve to be treated in this
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way because he's well regarded by um reform voters and it seems a little bit unfair um he's the one he's
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the one you want he's the one you want surrounding everyone he's the I'm a bit biased but he's the
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most articulate out of all of them so he's he's like the the gold dust from from all of these guys
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you need he's the one that you would pick to have as either an advisor or someone to to lead in in that
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regard so I he's also understand he's better than he's not just the best that a reform can offer
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I would argue that he's the best any political party can offer at this moment I agree and you
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can't do every tv every question time every any questions you've got to spread it around or what
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will happen and this happened uh last time in 2014 uh you can't go into a national election without a
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shadow cabinet or suggested shadow cabinet which is what you could do in 2014 when I was uh after I'd
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left and I explained to Andrew Neil and it's on my website that you can't being a protest group is
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one thing and Nigel's extremely good at being a protest vote you know bang bang banging the drum
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and all that kind of thing that's very good but in four or five years it's not impossible that reform
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could be looking to be uh HM opposition I would yes perhaps and the first question is going to be
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where's your shadow cabinet and the answer is nowhere you know it's bang bang bang let's all go to the pub
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that works in you know in in certain types of part it worked in european first uh politics uh which
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was uh um proportional representation it doesn't work when you go to the country it's very true and
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it looks to me possibly like this is a lesson that hasn't been learned i agree and i think that this
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decision has um if the national is to be believed here um potentially distanced habib from the party
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understandably i certainly don't blame him for potentially considering resigning and um there's
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a part in here i can't quite remember where it was but um yes they're talking about the criticism
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and and things like that um but obviously we still need to wait and see what he actually has to say for
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himself in greater detail i was going to say this that part shines the most the key for me is that
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reform uk stays true to the promises made to the british people um the movement we have created does
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not belong to us it belongs to the people we are obliged and indebted to the british people
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and i think we need to hear more of that and yeah that habib has just outright said that
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i think it speaks volumes to character and and you know intention because trust i mean i'm very cynical
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as it is with regards to politics or politicians so actually at my age see how cynical you are
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yeah it's only going to increase um so to actually hear that is extremely refreshing and we need more
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of that so i i i can't wrap my head around this i'm i'm sorry i can't wrap i can't do it yeah so
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we we look at yusuf's post here it is an honor to be appointed chairman of reform uk against all odds
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under nigel farajny talks about their electoral successes um this is just the beginning an
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important work of professionalizing the party which i think is an interesting word there
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um building national infrastructure and continuing to grow membership has already begun i will bring
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all my expertise energy and passion to the role to ensure we achieve our mission of returning great
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britain to greatness and um yes if you if you look beneath this you can see lots of people rather
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upset about this decision um there's one person there saying you are such a gentleman to be to give
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him his credit um and yes people are giving him a hard time which is very different to what you might
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get for ben habib's post where people are actually uh being quite supportive and i think that this
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is a great way to alienate your potential base really when we when we uh i remember the
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professionalization of ukip which actually meant dumping the grassroots that was that was a euphemism
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for dumping the grassroots which was the whole strength of the party was grassroots
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professionalize it and what we did we got people wannabes who couldn't make it in the
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conservative party who came in parachuted in uh we got people who were sort of gurus of this
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that and the other on 50 grand a year or whatever it was and i'm trying to get 10 quid out of old
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age pensioners in yorkshire and the next time you go where's old so-and-so gone no he's gone he was
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an idiot he's gone i'm gonna do it suddenly gone professionalizing a political party in my view
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is a bad thing it's a bad thing we have too many professional bloody parties all over the place with
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their hand in the till taking no notice of the electorate i wouldn't professionalize it but i
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wouldn't make you know what i think perceived mistakes uh such as this one very quick thing if
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you i must say i feel i must say i had a a first generation pakistani commanding officer regimental
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commanding officer he was absolutely fantastic uh and you know he he had the union jack on his
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bloody underpants he was he was so he was a really patriotic straight guy uh so i'm quite sure that
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this guy's straight i just think it's it's not been done right i think just the idea of just buying your
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way into the into the chairman the appointed chairman is just i don't know i think it kind of shows
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i don't know a bit of light on how things operate there well the thing is though because ben habib
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himself is is half pakistani and so you know if if faraj were trying to counter the the accusations
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you get from bbc types of you know is your party racist are the people that belong to your party
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racist well this decision wouldn't necessarily make sense because you know ben habib is already there
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and well regarded yeah it doesn't make sense and so the only interpretation i can really come up with
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unless there's something a bit more complicated internal um you know i'm not privy to everything
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is that this was uh you know a cynical move as a reward for donation exactly and i your enemies are
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always going to call you ists and phobes and isms you can't do that you can't get away don't play that
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don't play that race card with me exactly exactly and the tory party and the labor party are essentially
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the same party with the same crux of identity politics esg dei you want to stray away from that
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if someone they're always going to call you the ists and isms so why are you playing the same game
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i just i don't understand it well it's defending yourself on their home turf really isn't it and you
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shouldn't concede the the framing you know if you defend yourself via their paradigm you've already
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conceded too much ground exactly exactly but um you also have the same effect here where the reform
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party announced um zaya yusuf as chairman and yeah one of the top comments complete betrayal
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embarrassing um we've a lady with a palestinian flag saying we want to kick the muslims out which
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dear dear that's a bit of a contradiction there um but there we go um and then finally i did want to
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mention that um he did give a speech at a rally for reform on the 30th of june and his speech did go
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down well with the base it roused the crowd a bit and he's clearly a good speaker at least and i
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agreed with some of his points but i feel like some of the framing of what he was saying was slightly
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off i think that uh he was talking very much in the abstract about british values but not very much
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about the british people and i think that many of the people in reform concerned about the british
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people um because you know you you get british values by having the british people that is um
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sort of indisputable really and so i i think that it causes some reason to be a little bit cautious
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about this because i think that it could be a potential means in which reform's stance on things
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like immigration could be softened because it's wrapped up in values and and of course he talks about
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people of any culture of any religion and things like that and that to me sounds like something out
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of the conservative party if i'm being completely honest and it is not why people voted reform it's
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not why i voted reform um begrudgingly albeit um and it's quite frustrating really very yeah i just
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hit the nail on the head i've got nothing else to add to that sure so i believe you're going to be
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telling us all about geoengineering which is something i don't actually know anything about
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uh other than that they were doing it in dubai they were very proud of their ability to to change
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the weather which to be fair if you lived in a desert and you can make it rain um that is the stuff
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of gods in bygone eras oh absolutely i i must preface this subject can get a bit prickly and you can
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easily steer off and go off down the rabbit hole as we all do at times when we're really interested
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into a subject um so i want to make sure that during this segment i'm only dealing with facts
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what what they what they are saying and not any opinions or anything like that sure and not to stray
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off but geoengineering is the act of man-made climate intervention so purposely changing the climate to suit a
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particular agenda which it might be to thwart global warming or you know all these types of things and
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using various techniques such as solar radiation management which will get into stratospheric aerosol
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injection and all this now i didn't believe that this was happening i'll be honest with you i just
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didn't believe it at all but then this story popped up not too long ago so this was back in april
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and this was over in america where it says geoengineering test quietly launches salt crystals
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into the atmosphere where an experiment in san francisco could lead to brighter clouds that reflect
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sunlight however they didn't tell the public about it because they were afraid that people might protest
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and stop this particular act because it's quite well it's very controversial the act of actually doing
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this i don't know if you guys have heard of geoengineering before if you've heard of cases
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yeah like you i was a bit skeptical i'm becoming less skeptical i'm very much interested in what you've
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got to say believe me brilliant so i decided let's start with a little bit of history um so this is one of
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the most famous um cases of i guess geoengineering that is in the uk called raf rainmakers which was
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back in 1952 this is a guardian article that was published in august 2001 so this is also known as
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project cumulus where the raf conducted weather modification experiments including the dispersal of
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salt dry ice or silver iodide particles into clouds uh which tragically resulted in a flash flood in
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the village of lynmouth devon lovely village it's uh not too far from uh you know my neck of the woods
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oh really i've never been i'd like to go we had to pack up our uh toys i remember quite vividly we
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packed up our toys and sent them to lynmouth and the uh oh really yeah one of my one of my first
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memories oh wow okay um yeah and unfortunately this experiment claimed over 35 lives and survivors
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demand demanded an investigation into this but uh their calls were sadly unanswered and then it was
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later later declassified decades later um another one was project storm fury this is one in america
00:27:38.080
between 1962 to 1983 could have guessed from the name there couldn't you that it was an american one
00:27:43.580
yeah so they sought to weaken tropical cyclones so that was the the main idea of it and to suppress
00:27:52.900
hurricanes using silver iodide another common element fidel castro even accused the american
00:27:59.420
government government of weaponizing hurricanes apparently that was i remember um reading about that
00:28:05.600
and i just thought he'd sort of lost the plot of the plot yeah um it however it was eventually
00:28:11.080
determined that most hurricanes lack sufficient supercooled water for cloud seeding to be effective
00:28:16.160
leading to the project's closure uh later on uh another one is operation popeye uh which is
00:28:24.500
uh this was back in 67 to 72 where a weather modification program aimed at increasing rainfall over selected
00:28:34.180
areas in vietnam to hinder enemy movement and this highly classified program allegedly sponsored by
00:28:42.900
the secretary of state henry kissin kissinger at the time and the cia um without the secretary of
00:28:50.520
defense's authorization involved cloud seeding to disrupt uh transportation routes um now if you look into
00:29:00.640
zero um to uh the media now in modern times you would think that this was called a crackpot conspiracy
00:29:09.020
theory but no the media are saying and if we if we could play this of course for the viewers
00:29:15.360
i can't wait for you thank you very much uh they're saying it's pretty much safe they anticipate at least
00:29:21.960
another 200 ground cloud seeding machines to be put in before next season ginger this is such a cool
00:29:27.780
concept but is it too good to be true i mean how do we know that the chemicals that they're spraying
00:29:32.660
from the air aren't bad for us or the planet the good news is we've been doing this since the 1940s
00:29:37.140
and 50s other countries do it and there have been a lot of research projects that have shown that the
00:29:41.300
silver iodide for example is not found it's negligible once it gets down to ground level so again i don't
00:29:47.580
want to be too skeptical but is there anything wrong with manipulating nature like this i think
00:29:51.900
that's the question we should have asked when we built every single parking lot and every rooftop we
00:29:56.300
have been manipulating weather with our us for a very long time i do think that looking at and
00:30:02.740
continuing research on when these programs get bigger if it will affect people downstream that needs
00:30:08.140
to be watched at least we're manipulating it now to help the planet so there you go manipulation of
00:30:14.860
the weather to help the planet is the uh silver iodine is safe and effective yeah no and we've heard
00:30:20.420
that before that phrase we'll get in trouble if we say where we heard that yeah exactly true any thoughts
00:30:27.500
so far gents so my initial you know i'm a psychologist i'm not a meteorologist or you know a climate
00:30:36.860
scientist thankfully um but my understanding is that we still don't have a complete understanding of the
00:30:44.060
climate and thus by interfering with it we uh to my sort of lay perspective and this is just my sort
00:30:51.400
of gut feeling here we stand to potentially do more harm than good um because of course um we can
00:30:58.760
only seek to really emulate nature but it's very difficult to surpass it in my in my understanding of
00:31:06.040
the world i totally agree i we have a small holding up in east yorkshire uh you know with just a few
00:31:12.760
you know horses and a few chickens and maybe fattening beasts and all that kind of stuff it's only a few
00:31:19.260
acres um but we are in the country and we've had that small holding i don't know look 40 years or
00:31:27.600
something like that and when you live in the country you do tend to look skywards you know you've got
00:31:33.080
a few plants you maybe got a few strawberries you've got a bit of this and a bit of that and you're
00:31:36.640
small holding so we tend to make much we take make much more of weather than your city dweller
00:31:43.680
mm-hmm um i'm no longer a city slicker i'm a country pumpkin i've switched uh i've gone the
00:31:50.480
other way so well my my wife is total bumpkin uh you know so uh but we look up and we were walking
00:31:58.620
the dogs the other day and it was a beautiful clear sky and this is not the first time this
00:32:02.160
happened a beautiful quiet beautiful i said to a neighbor a village and we were just walking
00:32:05.680
past this cottage and i said what a beautiful evening you know it's a really beautiful summer's
00:32:10.260
evening and then we saw two or three almost immediately two or three trails and now i don't
00:32:18.600
know what the trails were and two or three aeroplanes quite high i would say 25 000 feet up and and
00:32:24.860
crisscross and we're not on a flight path now that also doesn't mean necessarily anything
00:32:29.480
um but yet again yet again uh there was this white white out with the sun disappearing and just
00:32:38.520
trying to fight its way through a white muslin tablecloth kind of thing and it's happened for me
00:32:44.180
just too many times for me to believe that this is all coincidence and on my channel um i have lots
00:32:52.440
of people sending stuff uh and they send it this is the sky this morning over chelmsford or this is the
00:32:57.760
sky this morning over chippenham or so where it is and it looks to me weird uh and then i've got
00:33:06.260
skeptics who say oh well basically where are the logistics you know where are the pilots where's
00:33:10.920
this and they take it from that point of view not that it's not happening they say oh well
00:33:13.900
it we it couldn't be kept a secret this kind of thing um but i know when i look up and so do my
00:33:20.600
bigger farming bigger landowning you know proper landowning friends not smallholders but they look up
00:33:25.500
there's something not right there's something not right and we don't know what it is i think it's
00:33:30.380
definitely worth i think it's it's it's i i would never ever turn my nose down or nobody should be
00:33:38.480
turning their nose down to to others who who are questioning this sort of thing i mean like i said
00:33:44.200
it it's a prickly subject because you can easily come to conclusions very quickly people can just throw
00:33:51.720
all sorts of things um but i think it's i think it's one of those things that i i think it's a
00:33:57.480
legitimate question to be asking um with regards to silver iodide after them saying it's completely
00:34:03.560
safe and effective well i had a little look and there are journals about the possible effects of
00:34:10.320
silver iodide and many other uh chemicals that have been used for cloud seeding and its possible effects
00:34:16.920
and it's not good i'll be honest uh here's one uh it's jstor uh i can't i can't remember how you
00:34:25.840
properly say it but this is a store j store i believe me i'm very well oh you weren't very well
00:34:31.160
equipped unfortunately i should have looked up how you how you properly say that one um but there's
00:34:36.560
plenty including the national library of medicine saying the potential risk risk of acute toxicity
00:34:43.480
uh using this sort of stuff so i don't know i think it's a bit risky to be using silver iodide
00:34:50.200
for too long and of course um this has been happening since the 50s maybe even possibly the 40s
00:34:56.800
um so the fact that the media now in this era are saying no no it's completely fine don't worry about it
00:35:05.040
but there are still uh publications coming out saying no no this is really really bad so i don't know
00:35:12.000
who's lying is is my question from that um so then i decided after all of this i'm going to send off
00:35:19.280
some freedom of information requests to the uk government the met office the ukri which is
00:35:24.520
the research body or the research council um and i if we could show the met office funding screenshot
00:35:32.800
that i got so this is what i received back uh so the met office with britain's forecaster
00:35:40.020
disclosed receiving funding for their involvement in geoengineering research over the past five years
00:35:47.000
they received 152 046 pounds from the met office hadley center climate program all to do with geoengineering
00:35:55.740
so that's climate intervention using srm or stratospheric aerosol injection as well
00:36:02.220
and they also received 200 000 us dollars from a ngo called silver lining and i thought who are they
00:36:11.340
i've never heard of these guys before so i did a bit of digging uh and this is their website that you
00:36:17.220
can go and see silver lining i mean it's a big giveaway with the title i wonder what they do yeah yeah
00:36:23.780
and it's all to do with you know equity there's also i don't know if i can have a look have a look
00:36:30.300
there um in fact no if we just keep going i looked into who has been bankrolling uh silver lining and
00:36:37.740
it's a particular family okay that says not that's gone okay that's strange oh we might be able to
00:36:46.500
refresh it oh that's a bit strange it's gone that's really weird well um i've already refresh i've had
00:36:56.560
the screenshot for a previous video uh on my youtube channel about this but i've got all the information
00:37:04.060
here silver lining recently announced the 20.5 million dollar in funding to advance its governance
00:37:10.480
and equity initiatives on near-term climate risk and climate intervention moreover they have ties to
00:37:18.180
the wealthy pritzker family in the u.s who contribute to the ngo through the pritzker innovation fund
00:37:25.100
and they are ranked sixth in oh it's not there for some weird reason um but they ranked sixth
00:37:31.700
in um by forbes among the wealthiest uh in the u.s family um in the u.s so a substantial donor and
00:37:40.080
they had an article in their website announcing this big 20.5 million dollars so i don't know why
00:37:46.880
that's gone i don't know why they've deleted that that's news to me i wasn't expecting that
00:37:52.020
um but they also have ties right here with the united states this is the con this is congress
00:37:59.460
uh where they have mandated a research plan and research government framework in relation to
00:38:06.320
solar radiation management and this framework includes scenarios for solar radiation modification
00:38:13.540
international cooperation um and frameworks for physical aspects of solar radiation modification
00:38:21.880
and there is a particular if i can find it um there is a particular graphic that they use
00:38:29.800
i'm going to try and find it now in in real time but it's a graphic that they've shown in this document
00:38:36.880
that shows all the different types of s here it is srm climate intervention so you've got space-based
00:38:43.960
methods which includes putting a giant disc into space like a solar mirror is that i i know that that's
00:38:52.600
something that's been considered i don't know whether that's actually uh something else and i just
00:38:57.240
remembered that term and i'm misapplying it i'll quickly have a look but then you also have other
00:39:02.320
methods here increasing the amount of s s ai which is obviously stratospheric aerosol that you can see
00:39:08.440
here marine cloud brightening which is another one that's like the san francisco story we heard earlier
00:39:14.220
by putting in salt crystals to increase the brightness of clouds in order to reflect sunlight
00:39:19.760
um and increasing i think it's to do with re it's
00:39:27.240
it's sort of uh like when a volcanic eruption happens and all the ash clouds like it's sort of
00:39:33.800
replicating that and that can be certainly what it looks like from my from our farm yeah and that's uh
00:39:39.880
that's kind of their their sort of way of doing it the director of this silver lining
00:39:45.920
actually commented on a particular man and of course he's cropped up uh bill gates where this executive
00:39:54.320
director of this ngo gave a good review on his book uh climate intervention how to avoid a climate
00:40:03.140
disaster where she says in this article we are grateful for gates's support of our field and we need
00:40:10.460
more individuals organizations and governments who are concerned about our escalating climate emergency
00:40:17.020
to support and invest in our field of study research is key to solving the issues of feasibility
00:40:23.240
impact and governance that currently exists in our field and no group can achieve that research without
00:40:29.920
the investment and support required to make it possible we at silver lining hope that bill gates's
00:40:35.700
recognition of our critical work encourages others um to regardless of background or prior knowledge of
00:40:42.900
climate intervention to do more of their own research to better understand the potential of
00:40:47.820
climate intervention um she also quite often another one and i'm sorry to go real down uh the rabbit
00:40:56.240
hole i guess but the more you find i wonder if this company this uh silver lining company has a goal for
00:41:03.360
2030 by yes uh well and yes they do uh they co-wrote that she co-wrote an article called can we geoengineer
00:41:12.740
our way out of climate change this was published back in 2017 to which it reads during the agricultural
00:41:19.220
industrial and digital revolutions of the past 150 years we have arguably been accidentally engineering the
00:41:27.560
earth system we lit the planet where it was dark we transplanted species paved forests emitted carbon moved
00:41:35.500
rivers and changed the earth's chemistry could we now apply the same could we now apply the advances of
00:41:42.140
the fourth industrial revolution to protect the natural systems we rely on and this entire article goes
00:41:50.180
through that um that vision which also shows this graphic how do the people who are sponsoring in big
00:41:59.180
money uh solar panels feel about this i mean they're covering yorkshire with solar panels and they're trying
00:42:05.460
to block out the sun exactly who's doing what to whom and why i mean it's all why would you put solar
00:42:12.600
panels in and then sponsor people blocking out the sun and california without sun i mean their vineyards
00:42:21.560
their market gardens biodiversity their whole thing yeah it would thwart you because we all know don't
00:42:27.640
we we we're trying to rationalize this aren't we yeah how stupid is that us i mean who know i mean what
00:42:33.400
are we talking about we know exactly what's going on don't we they're malthusians they're crooks uh
00:42:38.600
they're gangsters yeah and this is about political control it's about making money this is all about
00:42:43.580
making money yeah it's about money it's a climate mafia yeah what it is because it's a trillion dollar
00:42:48.660
industry even more um so if they can get more grants sponsorships if they could put their hands in other
00:42:55.500
people's pockets to uh move some things around get some things because of course um governments grant
00:43:01.620
lots of exceptions to green technology because they want um the innovations to progress which means that
00:43:07.740
there's a very strong incentive to invest in these industries however fruitful or fruitless they
00:43:13.100
might be uh pun intended um and it's it's just uh this weird symbiotic relationship between governments
00:43:22.840
because i we've been seeing lots and lots of green money if you will yes um coming into politics again
00:43:30.120
and one would only conclude from that that they're trying to influence politics even further in their favor
00:43:35.160
to get um these tax breaks even more favorable treatment um from the state to allow them to make
00:43:43.020
even more money from it than they would otherwise well my landowning friends and i complain i'm trying to
00:43:48.600
explain them that these great wind turbines don't work they just don't work do the numbers it's ridiculous
00:43:53.800
they have to bury the blades as well i know yeah they have to bury them in the desert don't get any of this
00:43:58.920
but the the general response is godfrey uh they say how would i afford the school fees if i didn't
00:44:05.620
have these things on my land you know they pay me a hundred or two hundred thousand pounds a year for
00:44:10.580
these three these i suppose i put three kids through you know through school yeah and university
00:44:15.900
that's right everybody's got their hand of the till annoyingly except me where's my i want my hand in
00:44:23.240
the till i never seem to make it work yeah even when it's an m.e.p where you can put a shovel into
00:44:28.820
the kitty i didn't do that either there's something wrong with me i think it's got nothing to do with
00:44:33.240
the climate it's to do with yeah um funding but this is a screenshot from my other freedom of
00:44:40.000
information request to do with the ukri that's united kingdoms research initiative um according to the
00:44:48.080
ukri they do hold relevant information with regards to funding geoengineering projects in the uk uh but
00:44:56.420
they point out that it's already quote reasonably accessible to the public which is a bit of a lie
00:45:03.900
which means it's not um via their gateway research platform uh they recommended specific searches like
00:45:11.320
geoengineering solar radiation management earth radiation management greenhouse gas removal and carbon
00:45:17.180
dioxide removal these searches yielded details of 327 projects that have been funded in the uk with
00:45:26.540
an additional seven if you type in stratospheric aerosol injection and here is the website that you can
00:45:33.080
go to to have a little look for yourself on the side there you can see the amount of money that has
00:45:38.680
been pumped through and the dates and it gives you a bit more um it gives you a bit more details when
00:45:44.980
you click on them um they stress that these are hypothetical projects so using climate modeling systems so
00:45:53.340
they're not real experimentations however i did send another request to ask about real experimentations
00:46:00.840
and they replied saying that um out of all these 327 projects there may be some physical experimentation
00:46:12.280
hidden within so there's a lot to go through still and there's a lot of money being poured in i reckon
00:46:18.000
over at least 10 million uh being put in or or around that sort of ballpark figure that's all really
00:46:25.180
interesting and some great work you've done there i'm really funnily enough my producer said to me on
00:46:30.460
out of my channel um he said we've got to get into this now because this is you know we were bang on
00:46:36.860
early when it came to uh covid we were really early with the first in saying you know that this
00:46:42.880
isn't that and this isn't all this is fake uh and i want to keep my record on my channel and my
00:46:48.580
websites going with this and he said find somebody who really knows their stuff we can interview on
00:46:53.180
our channel you are that manly i will deal with you after we go off air and i will make you come on
00:46:58.760
my channel oh brilliant and uh because this is a pleasure we need to get this out to everybody don't
00:47:04.180
we uh yeah i i made i made a video on this and put that out on on x and youtube it's it's gotten
00:47:10.760
some good views but i think it needs to go yeah we need more of us need to put our shoulder behind it
00:47:15.960
because i don't want to be breathing in silver iodine no what are it bloody well called i asked
00:47:22.100
about uh consent so the public awareness and consent because if there are projects to do with
00:47:27.780
climate intervention the public needs to know about this and they replied the natural environment
00:47:33.080
research council replied saying well there has been there was a public dialogue and consent
00:47:39.060
um there was a meeting done the met office responded that they have no information regarding awareness
00:47:47.380
and consent but these guys said that there was a public dialogue on geoengineering in 2011
00:47:53.980
to which oh no that's not it sorry i need to go back apologies go back uh to which 85 participants
00:48:03.200
turned up including 74 experts and stakeholders and according to this report back in 2010 or 2011
00:48:12.160
participants felt heard and appreciated during the discussions with scientists however it's worth
00:48:19.620
noting that the only media coverage of this event emerged three years later and it was on bbc radio
00:48:27.080
four's today program in 2014 that's their idea of public awareness and consent with this
00:48:34.320
so nothing really and i don't know about you there's a lot more to this than what i've found this is what
00:48:42.120
they're i hate to i hate to say it like this but this is what they're telling me
00:48:46.200
so there's obviously a lot more information oh heap of stuff they're not telling yeah so this
00:48:51.540
investigation is still ongoing i'm committed to to finding out more uh and you know i can't do it
00:48:58.720
by myself so if anyone wants to you know come on board and help more than welcome to so one thing i
00:49:04.700
will say about this is that from my time in academic research you couldn't you know get anything past an
00:49:11.680
ethics committee at least in psychology at least you know they questioned everything to a degree which
00:49:17.160
took me you know i knew about research ethics i was doing a research focused masters at the time
00:49:22.980
at one point at least and even then there were things that they're picking up on that i never would
00:49:28.960
have thought would would have mattered like um things like oh will the the link be able to be
00:49:35.760
accessed on multiple different devices other than just a web page can you use a mobile phone
00:49:40.620
and that was the consideration of an ethics committee for psychological research so you
00:49:47.720
you look at something like this which has the potential to affect hundreds of thousands of
00:49:52.660
people potentially if not millions depending on where they do it i would imagine they probably do
00:49:56.440
it in a rural area they're at least trying to be responsible but my worry is that with an
00:50:04.000
experiment like this the ethical clearance may well be you know just get get us results this this is a
00:50:11.220
very important thing that we need to develop and therefore don't worry about that um because i don't
00:50:17.340
know how um this sort of research would ever pass the ethical standards that i had to uphold when conducting
00:50:23.140
research and there's a sort of potential here just you know as a as a general researcher of unintended
00:50:32.600
consequences because it's dealing with something that we don't fully understand exactly and and they
00:50:37.660
all say it on that silver lining i don't know if we could quickly go back to the silver lining let me
00:50:43.460
should be able to yeah oh sorry that's my fault um there is a on on if we go on the about
00:50:51.320
about us there is a quote that the i'm gonna try and find this apologies i should i've just remembered
00:51:02.380
um save climate initiative there is a quote here it is so this is the director of silver lining saying
00:51:11.180
this climate change is here we are experiencing its devastating effects in recent extreme events
00:51:17.680
the safe the safe climate research initiative support supports research on promising means of
00:51:23.580
reducing warming rapidly to help people safe and to help keep safe and natural systems stable we do not
00:51:31.540
have enough information to know whether climate interventions are viable or can be undertaken safely
00:51:38.420
the work of these groundbreaking research teams will help ensure we have science to inform decisions
00:51:44.900
in this critical area so they're openly admitting that we they don't know they don't have enough
00:51:50.280
information and they don't have they don't know whether it can be undertaken safely yet there's money
00:51:55.940
being thrown around and there's more of it yeah so the the sums of money that i at least saw on screen
00:52:02.240
of you know a hundred thousand to a million these are the sorts of sums that you do see in um you know
00:52:08.880
a hundred thousand perhaps a small scale research project a million for a slightly larger scale one
00:52:14.500
those do indicate they are conducting research it's not you know covertly funding anything necessarily
00:52:21.460
yeah fair point and um so i i would say that perhaps if if there is something like that going on
00:52:28.340
i don't know personally um it's not necessarily going through these research means that you've
00:52:33.540
got here but those do seem to be sort of uh pilot studies if you pardon the pun yeah um and and and
00:52:40.980
and further research on this sort of thing and although i do support research i think that perhaps the
00:52:48.080
the urgency of the tone of this statement suggests that they're going to um overlook some of the ethical
00:52:55.820
considerations and some of the the potential for the people that might be affected by these um
00:53:02.460
um research i suppose um that they're going to overlook their concerns
00:53:08.740
do we risk this as possible potential rabbit hole i'm afraid um how many people are you know are actually
00:53:16.640
buying into all this kind of ludicrous nonsense i mean with the met office we look a clip from the
00:53:22.740
met office turn as we had the hottest may for years and years and years yeah we i'm for york
00:53:27.580
froze to death we've you know bloody ridiculous yeah we've all got our west and heavy woolies on
00:53:33.220
again and all the rest of it uh we have a small swimming pool which we've been in once
00:53:37.620
up to now uh july's been uh june was no better and the one thing but british people were
00:53:46.420
most people i suppose were conned easily because viruses and immunology people go well i can't see it's a
00:53:52.340
bug i've got this bug i'm gonna die kind of rubbish but we all i mean the british do weather
00:53:57.600
yeah yeah exactly every time you meet somebody if you're walking down the country lane oh it's
00:54:02.140
brightened up isn't it yeah yeah when is it going to come to people and say bug bugger me they're at
00:54:07.420
it again aren't they and you know this is this sooner or later you can't fool the englishman on weather
00:54:14.240
no you can't that's all he does that's all he thinks about it's true well uh yeah i as much as
00:54:21.260
it's a dark horrible subject and i'm really disagree with it it's it's i i've kind of taken
00:54:27.560
quite a liking into researching into this particular topic because i don't feel insane talking about it
00:54:33.880
that way but that's what i have uh there's a lot more information but of course time constraints
00:54:39.400
um but yeah hopefully we'll get some more information soon and like i said if anyone
00:54:45.080
wants to reach out and help i can't do this by myself yeah well i'll certainly come and i'll be
00:54:50.240
doing the same thing i'll say can anybody because i've got so much economic and other stuff but i've
00:54:54.820
got actually one of the things with having a sort of a semi boutique following if you will but for
00:55:00.060
bigger or for better or for worse or smaller is that an awful bit like the local pub somebody
00:55:06.360
somewhere will know how to do that yeah if you go to the pub somebody will know you need who knows
00:55:11.420
how to grow chrysanthemums you know yeah yeah there's about two guys said i don't know but there's
00:55:16.520
an allotment he knows how to do it and i said i've got a morris minor 1000 sort of classic car thing
00:55:22.660
and i don't think about cars and i wanted to find somebody bashing with the mallet there's somebody in
00:55:26.260
the college i've been restoring those for years and i think you've got that kind of following
00:55:31.100
you'll find people who will say yeah yeah i know how to do that and again i could do that or i could
00:55:39.060
that or what bit of that is a big subject what bit i could do with that bit yeah exactly yeah we could
00:55:43.840
i think a lot of people would like to become involved in that cool yeah i hope they do so we've
00:55:49.080
got some comments sent in so um hewitt 76 says josh buy yourself a pint for all your hard work over
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the last week well thank you um chaos is fun interesting name there i'm disappointed in you
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not shilling uh carl and connor's trek across the pond to reclaim the colonies appear on the culture
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war on tenant media after the podcast well i was going to leave it up to them actually um because i
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don't want to you know steal their thunder they're probably going to have a lot to say what was that
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sorry samson says they'll probably go for it next week and then a name i can't pronounce says
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um engaged in political discussions and stay informed we all defeat harry the fairy what who's that
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you don't mean northern harry do you oh well or harry um but anyway time time to lower the tone even
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further now um after reading that um with some of the absurd articles about keir starmer being sexy
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and uh i never thought i'd say those words i was gonna say is that your opinion or no no i'm not
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into um 60 year old men um despite the speculation um and here is an article this was on the times
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by so-called comedian caitlin moran um keir starmer has turbocharged my arousal levels i feel fruity
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please don't clip this um so every middle-aged woman i know feels right now kind of fruity turned on
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as erotic as a british woman can feel during a wet summer i'm sorry godfrey for this um on the
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morning after the election buckets i feel like i would like a new way of cloud seeding
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on the morning after the election one of my friends whatsapped and i realized
00:58:01.620
and this is a direct quote here i realized i got up and shaved my legs put on a face mask and blow
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dried my hair like i was subconsciously preparing for a date and whom was that date with as we spent
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an enjoyable hour analyzing her subconscious we concluded it wasn't specifically with keir starmer
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or even a new labor government but with competency oh that is cringe it is yeah so this uh comedy
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article is actually just a vehicle for saying the labor party is competent and uh the funny thing is
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and uh this isn't some sort of snobby comment um because i went to a comprehensive school as well
00:58:44.060
they were boasting about how we're you know we're the least privately educated um we have the least
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privately educated cabinet um in british history which seems to me not to be a brag personally everyone
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knows that you know usually speaking private education is better otherwise what are you paying for
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it's true um so yes i'm not you know looking down my nose i went to one um so i wish i did i'm
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insulting myself but comprehensive no no no oh private i didn't go private oh right oh sorry
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um i wish i had though yeah same um but yes within the same breath they're also being called the most
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competent and you know you have people like david lammy as foreign secretary who uh his his venture on
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to mastermind where he didn't get any questions right on his specialist subject and then even
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questions that children could have got in the general knowledge section he got wrong which quite frankly
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is embarrassing and is that online for um foreign governments to watch when they anticipate his
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visit the thing that totally stunned me one of the questions it was sent to me by uh my producer guy
00:59:56.780
and he said hey look at this and said uh what uh what cheese do you normally associate with port
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and he didn't know and that for me i couldn't possibly vote for a man who didn't know about
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stilton i mean the guy is a great ass as i'm concerned i mean dear oh dear oh dear but they are
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if it is a competent labor government it will be the first in history let's put it that way
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um but uh of course as i say another rabbit hole who cares who you vote for these days it's all
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world economic forum so and of course at least starmer's honesty the honesty of starmer he did when
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he was uh uh when he was interviewed by emily no mates uh he uh she said was it parliament or is it uh
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davos davos and then we're like oh god i've got to vote for him then but labor i mean dear oh dear
01:00:51.080
oh dear yeah apparently isn't that chap we were talking about earlier a w e f young leader or
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something like that that was which one somebody told me the uh the reform guy the new reform chairman
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oh um dear youssef yeah dwef i don't know somebody told me and i'm just saying you know well i can i
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google that right now well that would be a revelation although i can understand at my age
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the sexiness of keir starmer because he looks one of my really favorite dishes is steak and kidney
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pudding and he does look like steak and kidney pudding i mean he's got that suety sort of look
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and so yes yum yum yum yum so it carries on to say there is nothing more erotic to a middle-aged
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woman than competency i mean there might be something to that um i'm not a middle-aged
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get a hold of my competency it is the quality we value above all others as we age our preferred
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language of love shifts from i would die for you to i will stay alive and do your vat return for you
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and uh the single most sexual phrase we can hear is i'll take care of that
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and so that part did actually kind of make me laugh um i'll admit i yeah i'm very guilty about
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that and so however it pans out at the beginning of this new government the fact that they seem
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at the outset incredibly competent is making women of a certain age very frisky i i don't know about
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this um sure about that so this this last part i'm going to read it in full because it's uh
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you're going to have to pinch yourself look who turned up to form a new cabinet walking down
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downing street last friday not the familiar parade of pink public school boys all seemingly in the
01:02:32.360
same suit exuding a palpable worcesterish air of what ho i guess i'll be minister for housing in 18
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months could be fun don't know anything about it why not give it a shot instead a new minister for
01:02:43.460
leveling up angela rayner is someone who has actually leveled up from a single mother in a
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council house to deputy prime minister don't know whether that's anything to brag about um the new
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minister for prisons james timpson i expected it to follow and say he was a prisoner but no
01:02:57.320
has spent the last 20 years finding jobs for former prisoners uh the new minister for transport
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um is that louise hay um has the kind of red emo hair dye that suggests she frequently jumped the
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barriers at the tube on her way to a green day gig which is not what you want really uh from a
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government minister no i don't know what it means well i wish i could be you um all my friends were
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watching these arrivals as if we were watching magic mike live i i'm not going to read that last
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part but they said something about rubbing a certain area um it's almost as if keir starmer has hired
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the best people for the job rather than just someone's wife or a mate from school but the thing
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is i've had 14 years after power to sort out their shadow cabinet eventually they're going to find
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people to fill it you know when you have the dregs of the conservative party they've cycled it around so
01:03:49.260
many times that you know they're running out of people that are willing to take the job i'm surprised
01:03:54.240
they didn't ask people passing by downing street uh if they wanted to come in and become i don't know
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the minister for leveling up which is a silly title anyway i didn't even know there was a minister
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it's an absurd that's what we need more government departments but to to help keep your lunch down i'm
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going to move on to the next one which is even worse uh the starmers are sexy uh um really i don't know
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what what about this uh brilliant but uh this is the spectator once highly regarded now um
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starmer in that it looks like he's just had sex only somebody's taking him from the south
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so it reads as follows now we have new leadership and with it a new paradigm of attractiveness david
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lammy the new foreign secretary is even less handsome than dave meaning david cameron but for
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different and therefore revitalizing reasons elsewhere in the cabinet though things hot up
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with the cheek bony luscious locked angela rayner and rachel reeves of the world my goodness me
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i don't know i suppose i don't know what to say about i suppose the spectator have been uh you
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know recruiting from you know the dei textbook here and hired a blind writer um but for me they have the
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wrong they are the wrong sex to ogle and thus to the very top starmer himself politically i'm as
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lukewarm about the new prime minister as the next north london free marketeer why are you writing this
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then but as i did what i always do when a new leader is elected googled the leader young i found
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that he has a form um he has form sorry as a beefcake one picture sees the prime minister as a
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lead student lying on his front on the floor with his mates an impressive array of biceps visible
01:05:49.260
downright saucy pinup face cheekbones to die for nice mouth um full mouth enough of hair i beg
01:05:56.680
i'm sorry um and it carries on to say while he is no longer a fat fitty
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oh no he's 60 yes he's still a relatively fine figure of a man over the weekend jane garvey wrote
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in the times that starmer was unlikely to prompt many erotic dreams which i think is where this trend
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has originated maybe that's a good thing i see it differently starmer is the first prime minister
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since tony blair in brackets sorry you should be sorry uh you know a demonic man um with whom i
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would happily consider a saucy affair who would write this why would you this is the worst 50 shades
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of gray like political ripoff i've ever heard in my life the thing is i willingly chose to cover this
01:06:45.460
i wonder if the women years ago 120 years ago felt the same about lord salisbury
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an interesting concept isn't it i love his bushy beard but i particularly like his house yeah yeah
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fair enough yeah yeah yeah that starmer is a beefcake adjacent is a good thing he looks like he could
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actually take someone on in a fight oh could he not me couldn't by the way i'm gonna cut to something
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in a minute that completely demolishes that he looks like um if furious he could be dangerous he
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looks in short i know what you're gonna like what one used to think men ought to look like i know what
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you're gonna play i knew it i knew you were gonna play this so here we are here is keir starmer have
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you seen this godfrey no oh we have some boxing gloves on just try and whack it yes this is good
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this is he's punching like the the london lawyer that he is there with his labor gloves on i'm gonna
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do that just one more time this is the man that has got middle uh middle-aged women hot in the loins
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um for some reason it's not playing probably to save us all i'll leave it to you samson
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i i i used to box a bit in the army years ago and i'm an old man now admittedly
01:08:03.860
he wouldn't go two minutes in a round with me now i don't think he could win a fight with a child
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could he look at this oh dear what i could do to him in two minutes i know me and harry um one of our
01:08:15.720
other presenters we used to go boxing together for quite some time that is that would be embarrassing
01:08:21.480
for the first five minutes of your first session why he recorded this why he did this i do not know
01:08:31.960
that's the match i'd like to see i know i know who my money is on yeah and uh as if that was not
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enough um let's get rid of this horrible video shall we there is more um forget dishy rishi here's
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why people think kia is the new downing street daddy yeah these words have come up enough now i am sorry
01:08:56.660
to everyone involved but unfortunately that british politics has has really gone downhill you know
01:09:04.680
in the past 140 years or so um to be crowned a daddy by the internet is a rare yet esteemed honor
01:09:12.200
um idris elba david harbour george clooney and of course pedro pascal have all made the exclusive list
01:09:19.580
but now there's a new daddy in town and you'll find him in the most unlikely of places i think we can
01:09:25.360
all agree that residents of downing street have never really got us monitoring for a fumble under
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the back benches i can't believe i read that this is the metro by the way um so it's obviously not a
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highbrow sorry i i zoned out yeah i wish i could um sure a young just call me tony wasn't awful to
01:09:44.480
look at here it is again uh it's the obsession with tony blair he was in his 40s i suppose when he
01:09:51.440
is hang around lavatures i wouldn't be surprised there there have been accusations he was up before the
01:10:00.120
beak about it yeah and he went under the name of something whatever oh i did hear about yes yeah
01:10:05.720
yes i have to say it doesn't lavatory cowboy and um sure um as tony wasn't awful to look at and
01:10:18.800
cameron brushed up well in a suit one metro writer who shall understandably remain nameless
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yeah i wonder why that is even admitted to thinking churchill had a certain something
01:10:28.640
uh maybe it was the uh i don't know the whiskey nose perhaps i i'm did i'm lost for words um but
01:10:39.780
it's our new prime minister keir starmer that's finally seems to turning up the heat in westminster
01:10:44.060
his appeal is no doubt helped by the fact there's long been speculation that secure was the inspiration
01:10:48.900
between behind sorry i can't even get the words up mark darcy the dashing human rights lawyer that
01:10:55.220
bridget jones falls in love with these are all women writing this right i would hope so but i am not
01:11:01.960
entirely certain okay um it is worth mentioning keir starmer's record as a lawyer you know oh yeah
01:11:09.460
prosecutor of a particular case yeah wasn't it jimmy savile oh that's the one yep um also the grooming
01:11:17.780
gangs yep uh not a good track record a bit dodgy isn't it yeah just a little not exactly the kind
01:11:26.480
of cases you want to be taking in a rom-com is it was that a picture of him as the prosecutor the
01:11:32.900
chief was that him back then i think so oh dear he's not got gray hair there yeah i can i can understand
01:11:38.880
it at least a little bit more in his younger days perhaps but now it's getting a little bit desperate
01:11:43.920
isn't it uh but it carries on to say um his appeal is no doubt helped by oh no no um while author helen
01:11:51.580
fielding has since quashed the rumors she has said keir is really sexy and there are similarities
01:11:56.480
between the two the internet seems to be in agreement is keir starmer our hottest prime minister in
01:12:01.440
history as tiktok creator the boldest bitch which is actually a man by the way um i don't know why you
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would go by that pseudonym online in a now viral video comparing keir to the likes of liz trust
01:12:12.720
and this is a quote gordy b meaning gordon brown and t blair i don't know why they've got hip-hop names
01:12:20.080
all of a sudden harold wilson and winston churchill sexy starmer came out on top this is the level of
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journalism now labor is in power shut down the mainstream media for good now it's time to shut
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down my brain reading this he's stunning like a fine wine reads one comment i'm so glad someone has
01:12:38.500
said this said another right i'm done with the starmer stuff now my goodness i feel like i need
01:12:44.100
that i need a cold shower or something um but the torture is not quite over yet because i'm going to
01:12:50.780
remind people um with the tony blair years here is an article from 2014 tony blair packed number 10
01:12:58.140
with very beautiful girls who were half in love with him andrew marr claims and uh i can't help but think
01:13:04.880
that there's a touch of envy from andrew marr there um but uh yes how do you think the the how do you
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think the media would have would have reported this if it wasn't tony blair and it was a conservative
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prime minister and they packed much like belasconi i imagine in it's in italy right they would try and
01:13:23.480
you know make it out to be that he's a misogynist and predator or something yeah we couldn't get invited
01:13:29.560
to his parties nigel and i used to keep writing we keep emailing him in the old european parliament saying
01:13:34.580
oh you know we're free too next weekend never got an invite i imagine no oh oh oh dear but i don't
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funny um just saying uh because um when you are in office that attracts a certain kind of political
01:13:53.220
groupie and then in the european parliament uh it attracts uh there's lots and lots of pretty girls
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there who interpreters or they do this they do that or then research things for various parties
01:14:04.280
uh and it was good to be seen i mean i'm i was an old guy then i'm nearly dead now but i was sitting
01:14:10.120
in the plaster luxembourg having a sherbet and uh this blonde bird bounced up and said is it all right
01:14:15.140
if i can i sit with you because my friends will be coming out you know he's blonde girl you know
01:14:20.540
rather nice sits there can i sit with you bloody well can i'm not a liberal democrat
01:14:24.180
um she sits down and we have a sherbet i buy a sherbet um and her friends now come up and wave
01:14:32.020
and the rest of it and she wanted that and that's how john prescott got his name when he was an mp
01:14:38.960
john two shags presto he's came later two jacks because he had two jacks but uh he was a neighbor
01:14:46.720
buying john prescott by the by constantly gustily man and um yeah it's it's the attraction of office
01:14:53.720
so all these girls with uh knickers around their ankles presumably uh are attracted by the fact
01:14:59.960
he's in number 10 downing street not that he looks like a suet pud
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who knows but the female mind who knows it's mystery to us i'll be married 40 years and she's
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younger than me gordon knows where that came from i really don't it could have been my coots gold card
01:15:18.140
on a similar note actually has anyone noticed uh anyone who's seen clarkson's farm noticed the
01:15:26.720
difference between jeremy clarkson and his his wife well i'm not entirely sure that his partner
01:15:32.340
a partner yeah there's quite the difference uh let's just say that it's amazing what a very large
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amount of land and a successful career as a tv presenter can can get you isn't it what first
01:15:44.060
attracted you to multi-millionaire yeah his personality obviously yes um and then we have
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this as well which i thought was interesting uh wendy deng reportedly wrote a letter praising tony
01:15:56.600
blair's body but she'd hardly be the first to go weak at the knees wendy deng is important because
01:16:02.240
she is the the wife of rupert murdoch of you know fox news yeah fame and sky news right
01:16:13.600
that's uh a bit unfortunate for him it might explain why the daily mail um were were so keen to support
01:16:21.180
tony when he had it in the ear from his missus that she would run off with tony perhaps if if he
01:16:27.540
didn't report on him favorably um i hate to be ungallant but you have to consider mrs blair's legs
01:16:35.960
only to just imagine how talented blair must be in the sack to actually manage to do it to that
01:16:41.900
the images in my head are now horrific thank you very much and um you had this even from the
01:16:55.880
telegraph uh linda kelsey here in 2010 tony blair a pretty sexy kind of guy and uh of course it's worth
01:17:04.000
mentioning as well the film love actually made by a bunch of tony blair's mates um you know the tony
01:17:10.500
blair figure played by hugh grant um interesting it doesn't particularly resemble tony blair so much
01:17:17.840
does he he's uh looks a bit different a bit different really i think that they were trying
01:17:23.080
to portray him favorably and also at the end of the film he you know sticks up to the nasty u.s president
01:17:28.380
which of course blair was criticized of yeah so it's almost like there was an ulterior motive behind
01:17:36.160
the film even though uh we have actually run a segment on lotus eaters when people were attacking
01:17:40.680
it for being too white oh yes what love actually yeah i think it's quite a good film yeah i hear that
01:17:48.020
a lot actually yeah i think it's quite good um no comment no comment no but um i'm gonna get
01:17:55.040
slaughtered for that one so you are yeah get quiet but um one final thing um as now judging by
01:18:01.280
appearance is uh back on the cards now labor in for some reason um starmer has praised the diversity
01:18:08.260
among new mps in his first speech to parliament every government does he says uh the most diverse
01:18:13.720
by race and gender this country has ever seen and he said it's the largest cohort of lgbtq plus mps
01:18:19.180
of any parliament in the world so yes we have the gayest parliament uh going there is a par there's a
01:18:25.700
completely parallel article that i read this morning and it's also the most godless i heard
01:18:32.340
that yeah yeah the most godless so that fits and i would suggest least meritocratic yes that too but
01:18:39.160
i i would like to employ you to have a look at this um if if we can open up this image
01:18:46.540
what is the first thing you notice about i'm sorry it's a bit of a small picture
01:18:50.600
white yeah if we had humza yusuf here we would be able to to wrong spectacles i'm afraid but um
01:18:57.840
to describe it to you it it looks very different from the tory benches that's that's for sure
01:19:04.180
there's a lot of uh you've got every diverse spectrum of white middle class person
01:19:09.660
angela rainer right at the front that's true um samson is circling a few um diverse faces but the
01:19:18.440
point being that the diversity is not actually in labor um it's a cheap shot um but it is worth
01:19:24.880
pointing out you know it's like a where's wally uh game here that's got out of hand you you can just
01:19:31.260
about spot david lammy there and that's second from front oh yeah you'd have thought they'd have
01:19:34.720
moved him out the front wouldn't they i thought that as well foreign secretary relegated to the
01:19:38.700
second row it's a bit of an insult really um but yes as we're able to comment on appearances now
01:19:45.860
according to journalists it's no longer objectifying well here we are um commenting on the
01:19:50.960
labor um bench actually got quite a few english people in it um which is uh different to the
01:19:56.220
tories i suppose but i i believe we have a bunch of written comments now anyway um now i've lowered
01:20:03.400
the tone enough it's been pleasant mate it's been funny sam weston says i'm pleased to see that both
01:20:10.940
godfrey bloom and lewis brackpool have returned for today's episode of the podcast josh godfrey and lewis
01:20:15.340
is a magnificent lineup to start the weekend all my very best wishes to you gentlemen and thank you
01:20:20.780
for everything that you do that's very kind sam and you very much thank you um annie moss says
01:20:26.800
really happy to experience the week josh great job and while it was a lot of work for josh i
01:20:33.000
wouldn't mind seeing him in this rotation more often well thank you very much oh you sacked
01:20:37.880
chris king says good work this week josh and samson uh busy week all round many uh great recurring
01:20:46.140
guests congratulations to stelios on his wedding he's not here at the minute but uh want our um
01:20:50.720
you might remember stelios my best wishes to him yeah he's uh in greece at the minute and uh
01:20:57.380
if you're watching stelios sorry i can't be there great wedding that'll be uh smashing plates
01:21:01.760
yeah good time to invest in crockery um yeah yeah rue the day says absolutely love these two
01:21:08.800
fellas and they work great together um i feel a bit called out but that's very nice of you um
01:21:14.620
annie moss again says really enjoying lotus uses having godfrey on today he's always has pithy
01:21:20.140
things to say and all around great guests there we go this is nice this is very complimentary
01:21:25.680
and uh for the reform conform segment uh warlord woo to tie presumably not a real warlord um to echo
01:21:36.400
godfrey's statement on the professionalization on reform surely the professional politicians are
01:21:40.800
exactly what people are cynical and mistrustful of and to which reform has been seen as the antidote
01:21:46.120
i entirely agree with that i couldn't have put it better myself really
01:21:49.920
so um omar awad says uh doesn't professional just sound so sterile nobody voting for the outlier
01:21:59.080
party is looking forward to politicians by committee reform must keep its pro-anglo character or crumble
01:22:04.780
into obscurity i don't disagree no kevin fox says since ben is no longer an mp it was fairly hard for
01:22:13.320
him to stay as deputy leader however why did they not make him party chairman instead of some
01:22:19.000
johnny come lately with deep pockets who will most likely alienate many of reform's followers
01:22:24.220
exactly my sentiment and that was my motivation for actually covering it so yes of course i agree
01:22:29.740
and um northant's knight says this restructuring reform does have the hallmarks of a red flag
01:22:37.800
i would certainly say so yes um i was already suspicious of them to begin with um and now i'm
01:22:43.360
very suspicious of them suspicious of them sorry um what what do we think um what are our general
01:22:51.000
thoughts on reform more generally well i voted i haven't voted for years and i voted reform this
01:22:57.160
time because i made a very public promise and i've made it for many many years that i would vote for
01:23:03.360
the first genuine artisan that stood for parliament uh and he was a he was a brickie he was a bricklayer
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okay got a successful business going but he started life leaving school at 15 as a brickie
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that's where i drink at the wheat sheaf public house in howden uh it's full of artisans who turn
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up at 4 30 finishing work and you'll get more common sense from them than you will from any of my
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oxford educated dinner party guests they know how many beans make five i call it the sergeant's mess
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uh you know where you get common sense commitment loyalty and that's what we want don't professionalize
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it because what will happen then the suits will bring in somebody the suited and booted will then
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come in and they won't want brickies i know how well that's what professionalism is and it will be
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another anodyne ghastly mess and that's what happened to ukip they took away all the good people
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and i could smell the wind a bit on that one where they were canceling people what they might
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have tweeted last year well you know if it's that kind of party uh when tice was in charge
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well our very own i mean is he a sexy one too i'm just wondering
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our very own beau dade um got dropped as a candidate for writing out reform party manifesto in a an article
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for the mallard and that was what got him dropped in the end yeah as well as um some
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joking comments about scotland that that is gonna scupper reform yeah because that's what they call
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they'll have a professional share with a professional this professional that and everybody
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just like everybody else i didn't think it's another bungled opportunity like ukip ukip got
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four million got just as many votes as reform in 2014 if you check your numbers uh with again no seats
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because that's but that's another rabbit hole of how the system works um but this professionalization
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things you get you lose your grassroots i mean talking of foreign sector excuse me just dragging
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on a little bit this what my father used to say and my father knew how many beans made five i can tell
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you he said the best foreign secretary we ever had was ernie bevin he was bloody good ernie bevin
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working class guy and he stood up to the soviets he didn't take any nonsense he didn't take any
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nonsense from anybody you need some working class people in parliament because they're real people
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and totally unrepresented your working man now your brickie your cabbie your joiner your sparky
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is totally and utterly unrepresented in parliament and has been for decades now and that's the
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problem and professionalization is going to kick them out absolutely should we move to some
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comments on your segment lewis yep okay um so someone online says can the government stop
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being mr burns and trying to put out the sun for five minutes that's uh from the simpsons if you
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yeah oh no i'm a simpsons fan oh good man um omar says the problem with playing god is it almost
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always comes with unintended consequences the only reason i say almost is because i'm not sure which ones
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are unintended that's a good comment roman observer says geoengineering stages are something like
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number one it's not happening it's a conspiracy theory number two it's happening but why do you care
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number three it's happening whether you want it or not and number four it's happening and it's a good
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thing very true that is the uh the formula for most um political changes in in this day and age
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yeah afraid so it all emanated from uh europe of course it was the eu uh they did that because you
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know people nobody could spot it it came in it was there's no um debate in parliament about it
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two thousand regulations a year which became law a year and a year uh and nobody suddenly why
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we got instead of sort of one six of a jill why have we got you know two mils and why have we got
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this and why have we got all those little uh 30 mile an hour signs or 40 mile an hour suddenly how
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many millions did that cost to change every single sign so it was the same size yeah as you know most
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people haven't a clue i knew farmers and landowners who thought defra made up the rules defra is just an
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enforcement agency for the european union and they haven't rescinded a damn thing what happened to
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brexit didn't happen yeah exactly rue the day says wonder if we're going to see that british.gov
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article where they say quote we have the technology to sunshield we must but we would never not without
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consulting the public we promise on the same note i've noticed that summers in ireland have gone
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peculiar over the last few years it's actually been warmer at night interesting observation yeah that's um
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that's like people are beginning to see something something's not right yeah yeah somewhere uh and
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that's that's sort of the key exactly you know um they were saying it was the hottest june and it
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rained the whole of june yeah part of the reason for that is that um it was really hot at night time
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and that changed the averages so it was much hotter than average of an evening at least by the
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measurements if they're to be believed and so that just wasn't communicated and everyone was like well
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it was raining the whole time what are you on about but yeah that's the way averages work i suppose
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yeah uh kevin fox says bill gates is so into this geoengineering two things number one how do they
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expect all these solar farms to work if they keep making clouds number two has he not watched
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highlander 2 conor mcleod did geoengineering and it didn't go well for the planet or him i've not seen
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highlander 2 so i'm going to read some from the final segment because we've only got two minutes left
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sorry um that's okay um face tape says it's almost like women get turned on by powerful and wealthy
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men it's almost like when you're rich and famous women will just let you i'm not reading that is it
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it's a famous quote by donald trump grab them by the something but i'm not having that clipped and put
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out on the internet uh it's bad enough for trump um um marik boss i think there we go i tried um
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it's simply the hypergamy women love a man with status more than anything um oh that's a good
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comment the middle one okay by eloise eloise um says kia starmer shrivels up my ovaries no thank you
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and then i suppose to to end us off um hector x says thank you so much for having lewis and mr bloom
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on absolutely chuffed and what a lovely lovely way to uh thank you end the show so um i've had a lot
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of fun i've i've enjoyed learning about um all of the geoengineering and uh i haven't enjoyed
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torturing you both those articles about kia starmer but um our broadcasting's not over quite yet
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because we'll be going to lads hour and we'll be having a bit of fun a couple of beers to end the
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the uh the week off and uh make sure to tune in in half an hour thank you very much for watching and
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thank you very much to both of these fine gentlemen for coming in and goodbye thank you thank you