The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #959
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 35 minutes
Summary
The Lotus Eaters are joined by Harry and Jack to discuss the recent ban of Twitch streamer JonTron, and why it's a good thing he's no longer allowed on the stream. They also discuss the death of Cory Comparator, and how he's been using his death as a means to rage against conservatives.
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 18th of July 2024.
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He told us not to look at the Nikocado Avocado OnlyFans leaks, which I didn't know existed.
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If you don't know who he is, he's a giant fat guy.
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And Harry is talking about Destiny being banned.
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And then you're doing something else, aren't you?
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And speaking about what the right doesn't stand for, before that though, just to psych you out.
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So if you want to send us Rumble comments, we will read them after the segment.
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Make sure they're relevant to what we're talking about.
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And also, is Calvin's Common Sense Crusade on after this?
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So there's been a bit of controversy around everybody's favorite Twitch.
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Well, formerly Twitch, now KickStreamer, now formerly KickStreamer, Destiny.
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Which is that he's been making some rather improper and disgusting comments.
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I'm not going to go with all of the moral outrage that everybody else has, because I've
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This has been going on since Saturday, since the attempted Trump assassination, and since
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And Destiny has been using the death of Cory Comparator as a means to rage bait, as a means
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to dance on his corpse, so that he can get engagement, and so that he can let everybody
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know how he really feels about conservatives, which shouldn't really be surprising to everybody,
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because Destiny has said for a long time that he hates conservatives, and has said a
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few times over the years, before January 6th as well, because we'll get onto his reasoning
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for why he's happy, or at least not sad that an innocent firefighter died.
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He's using that as the reason, but before January 6th he's been saying this for a very
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long time, and I think I want to dispel a few things here.
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First of all, being that Destiny was never, ever, ever the reasonable liberal that he was
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He was always the guy who's on Twitch, who was considered to be on the left, who people
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could speak to and have reasonable conversations with, because he was willing to hear out the
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Everybody knew his debate tactics going all the way back to JonTron, where JonTron was saying
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things that, at the time, were considered very controversial, but thankfully now I think
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we're all at a point where we can listen to what JonTron was saying about demographic
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replacement, about crime statistics, about all sorts of things, and go, he was being reasonable.
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Well, we talk about that stuff on the podcast all the time.
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Absolutely, and rightfully so, because these are things that we need to be talking about.
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Destiny went out of his way to try and make JonTron look bad, and Destiny went out of his
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way to try to make it seem that the things that JonTron was talking about were either
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So, to sort of build on what you were saying, I know that lots of right-wingers were giving
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When he talked about the Carl Rittenhouse case, and he said, well, yeah, it seems like
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So, he said one thing that conservatives roughly agreed with.
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And yeah, from having no experience of him to that makes it just seem like, oh, okay,
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But everything that comes afterwards makes it clear that he's not.
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The other thing that's been going on over the past two years, we've addressed it on the
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podcast a few times, is his failed relationship with his now ex-wife, his second ex-wife.
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You know you're doing well in life if you have two of those.
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Where he had an open relationship and he was going on podcasts talking about Red Pill and
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saying that his open relationship works for him and how it's amazing and how nothing bad
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would ever happen because he was so amazing and awesome that Melina wasn't going to leave
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him even if he let her go out and sleep with a number of guys.
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And then an emotionally damaged Swedish twink decided that he was going to say, no, you
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So she got everything she needed out of that relationship.
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But there's a few other things I wanted to point out through this, which is that I've
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How the mainstream media pundits think is what he says.
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He's just stupid enough to say it out loud because he thinks that he can get away with
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But we're finding out that in one way or the other, conversation is shifting to a point
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where rules may be actually getting applied evenly and fairly, which means that the same
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way that I couldn't come out and say, I'm glad that so-and-so was attempted to be killed
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Let's make jokes that try and encourage people to commit more violence, but then say, oh, they're
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And the other thing as well is that if we're talking about how the mainstream media ginned
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up fear of Trump, comparing him to Hitler, comparing him to a dictator, saying that January
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6th was the worst thing to ever happen in American history.
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They're also referring to Trump supporters as traitors and not patriots and people that
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Essentially claiming that they're treasonous, which used to be an offense punishable by
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So they created the atmosphere where it made the shooting more likely to happen, much
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more likely to happen, especially when you've had eight years.
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That guy, Thomas Crooks, who committed the shooting, who's thankfully dead now, he was
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12 when it started, when all of that started back in 2016.
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So from the age of 12 to 28 years, he was marinating in a culture-
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That told him that Trump was going to be the worst thing that ever happened to American
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Destiny has been pushing that narrative for a very long time, even in more recent debates
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that he's been having against people who clearly know a lot more about the situation,
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People who are lawyers and have practiced law in America before, that being people like
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He's been hitting the bell and he's been going, Jan 6th, insurrection.
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If Trump gets in again, he'll never leave office.
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It was trying to destroy the American democracy, et cetera, et cetera.
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So we have to include him in our lineup of people who created this atmosphere.
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So to get onto it, so what started all of this was originally on Saturday, he said that
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he was conflicted about what happened with the Trump shooting.
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And then he goes on to start making jokes about it to try and rage bait.
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If we learned anything today, I hope it's realizing the importance of principles.
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If you have a firearm, you need to spend more time at range practicing it.
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He knows he's not smart, but he's smart enough to know that that is going to get a reaction
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I think he's been around long enough to know what kind of reaction it's going to get and
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It's sort of like a level of bad faith to this that, you know, it's no longer just you're
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You're just trying to be spiteful and incite violence on people.
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At the end of the day, if you were to ask me, does destiny actually wish that Thomas
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Crooks had been a better shot and taken out Trump?
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Yes, I do believe that destiny wishes that were the case.
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As mentioned, he did interviews with Ben Shapiro, debates with Ben Shapiro.
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This one was more cordial because he was on the Lex Friedman podcast.
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And Lex Friedman, to his credit, is so slow and boring a speaker that he actually tends
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So a debate between Ben Shapiro and destiny was actually tolerable and listenable.
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And even though I'm not a huge Ben Shapiro guy, Ben Shapiro absolutely rinsed him because
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destiny had no idea what he was talking about other than having one or two little factoids
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here to try and propel his emotional reasoning.
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When he was coming from the foundation with Donald Trump is evil and tried to destroy the
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It is worth mentioning that Ben Shapiro, not historically the biggest fan of Trump either.
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So if Shapiro, who, you know, his personal feelings aside can still make a better defense
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in a debate, kind of suggests that destiny really doesn't know what he's talking about,
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Well, Shapiro went onto it and he said, no, I don't believe the election was stolen from Trump.
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No, I don't believe that Trump should have tried to delay the transfer of power through
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looking at the electorates and seeing what was going on and trying to find extra votes
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But what happened on January 6th does not in any legal way qualify as an insurrection.
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It does not qualify for any sort of criminal charges against Donald Trump for doing anything
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other than giving a rousing speech to an audience and saying to go and protest peacefully.
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I mean, that much is entirely obvious, that latter part, to anyone with a functioning pair
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But of course, destiny was still hitting the drum.
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And since this has all gone down, destiny has been still featured on one media appearance,
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but it seems that it was more for the sake of denouncing him publicly than having a real
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discussion about it because destiny went onto Piers Morgan.
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Piers Morgan used the whole thing as an opportunity to tell him, by the way, you're a disgusting
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You're absolutely despicable for making these sorts of comments.
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Destiny is constantly talking about how, well, actually Donald Trump is the most divisive
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president ever while destiny is fueling that division within the country himself.
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And it comes from a place of seething, nasty resentment.
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I mean, it hasn't got to quite that point yet, has it?
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And he was saying, Piers Morgan rightfully said, you're somebody who seems almost gleeful
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When you are in a world where conservatives can say anything.
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And then liberals are supposed to sit here and be like, oh, my God, it's so tragic.
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You'd like to fire off, as you've done so far in this debate, about your fury at how disgusting
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Republicans are, how inhumane they are, how they never have any empathy, blah, blah, blah,
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And then you yourself actually are exactly the person that you're describing.
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You are somebody who seems almost gleeful that a young firefighter with a family, with a wife and children, who he was protecting as he was shot dead.
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That he deserved what was coming to him because he went to a President Trump rally, a man who was president of the United States until recently for four years and maybe again.
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You sound almost gleeful, Destiny, and I'm sorry.
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Look at the conservative response to Pelosi's husband when they broke in.
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There are mainstream media figures that were – I don't care.
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I never thought I'd say this, and please, for the love of, you know, all that is holy, do not clip this.
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But I wholeheartedly agree with Piers Morgan here.
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But also take note of his tweedy twig arms right there.
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This is something that should always be noted, which is that people like Destiny are not coming from a place of principle.
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They are not coming from a place of reason and logic.
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They are coming from a place of seething a priori resentment because of the fact that they have to look in the mirror every morning when they wake up
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and remember that they're them, and they hate you for being you.
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Other people who've spoken to him recently don't seem to be so eager from this point.
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So Jordan Peterson came out and condemned him, saying that you shouldn't be conflicted.
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I thought you were a representative of the youthful progressive left, but it doesn't seem that you should be representing anybody.
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Constantin Kissin, and Trigonometry also had him on recently as well, responded to this when somebody said this guy is as toxic as Nick Fuentes.
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Hopefully we won't see him on respectable podcasts or debates anymore.
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This led to itself a little bit of a cascade where they got into a bit of it, and Constantin did the obvious thing, which was,
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dude, you let your wife get railed by other guys, and you were happy about it.
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You bragged that apparently this made you a better boyfriend and husband than you would be if you hadn't let your wife sleep with other men.
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She married him for a green card and was sleeping with other men and then left him.
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Destiny responds, I'd rather watch my wife get railed 10,000 times over than betray family in Ukraine by throwing them under the bus to win an internet debate, you coward, spineless F.
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Next time you moderate a debate, brush your teeth so we don't have to smell Putin's load on your mother.
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Sorry, are you accusing Constantin Kissin of being a Putin shill?
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He doesn't know his British politics too well, does he?
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This isn't material to this segment, but Constantin Kissin is a Ukraine war hawk, as far as I can tell.
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That's his own views, that's his principles, and he stands by them.
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Also, when I first read that, I couldn't believe what I was reading.
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It takes a big man to admit that he enjoys watching his wife get railed by 10,000 guys in a row, I assume.
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If Destiny ever gets married again, you know, form an orderly cube.
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It's going to be the most attended wedding in human history.
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He's going to be sat on the stool in the corner watching.
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Is it Prima Nocta where the king gets to bed with the wife?
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Well, Destiny is really taking that to a whole new level.
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I mean, he is quite the jester, so it only makes sense.
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Now, remember, this is the guy calling you a beta cook online when you post right-wing opinions.
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So there are worse, somehow, photos of Destiny's physique.
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It's like in Futurama when Zoidberg loses his outer shell as well.
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I mean, I thought I was pale, but that's going above and above.
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I never knew that a man held together by papier-mâché joints could stand up for quite so long.
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So we need to give him a round of applause for that one.
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So, of course, Destiny found some of Comparateur's old tweets and said,
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this is the effing retard that got killed at the Trump rally.
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He originally responded to a Lauren Southern tweet, which has since been deleted,
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So, completely disgusting, despicable behavior all around.
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is this not going against all of your hate speech terms and conditions on the website?
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Because typically, advertisers, as many on the right wing have found out,
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don't like their adverts placed next to certain types of content.
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If I was an advertiser, I wouldn't want my brand associated with you at all.
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And he, you know, keeps trying to hammer this button.
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And he's also come out as just saying that he has no values whatsoever.
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Now, remember as well that this is a man when he was asked,
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if it was your parents, who you've said before are conservative,
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Which Destiny came out and said, well, it'd be less end-of-life costs for me.
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You shouldn't have to worry about that kind of thing.
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What's the point of earning millions if you can't look after your ancestors and your descendants?
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Well, the reason that most people do anything is for the benefit of their family.
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And if he's talking spitefully about his own family,
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You know, it's the thing that is, you know, to sound a bit Christian almost,
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it is the sort of rock in which you base your morality and your relationship with the transcendent, isn't it?
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And certainly this is all coming from the place, not of principle,
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but of, again, the fact that he just has an irrational hatred,
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for people who are ideologically conservative or right-wing.
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And he says as much on a recent stream that he did
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where he was talking to people on a Twitter space
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I know that I've picked up some conservative fans, okay?
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just know that if you end up at one of these protests, okay,
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I know I've got more than a thousand of you, okay?
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You are disgusting, anti-American, anti-patriotic fucks
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and you are the cancerous rot that is destroying my fucking country, okay?
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if something happens to all of your fucking whatever,
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I'm going to tweet that and I'm going to have a jolly old time, okay?
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and I can understand when you weigh probably about 100 pounds soaking wet
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and probably maybe come up to the bottom of my shoulder
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why you would need to affect a voice to sound intimidating.
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That's what people are saying in the chat here.
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And again, the idea that somebody like Destiny,
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for sounding the alarm bell in The Great Replacement,
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believes that America is essentially a pit stop
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and also stayed behind the velvet ropes in the capital.
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Those ones, and the man who they were supposedly doing
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because it's all emotional, justified reasoning
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each of these posts is getting thousands of likes.
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and take a bullet, you deserve it, essentially.
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they would rather it not even get to that point.
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They would rather them stay in their own country,
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And then he tries to turn it all into Palestine.
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disappointing to her Amanda Brewer so there are
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think that you're you have to be criticized you
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know I personally believe in you know abolishing
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woman's face before she was one of those people
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they in response sent out an email that doesn't
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political violence yeah but do you condemn this
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one are you going to do anything about it again
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look not a great look and again more school well
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this one was a Tennessee councilwoman who struck
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minds of your children if you're an opportunity
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people are speaking on it absolutely violates any
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resentment for other people you're not engaging
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in dialogue with the reasonable logical opponent
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you're engaging in dialogue with a rabid dog if
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lives and the lives of your friends and destroy
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it but let's let's let's have a reminder of what
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we're talking about what have these people been
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operate on an anonymous account on social media
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why is it that you have to keep your mouth shut
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in public when you want to talk about things and
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discussion like saying for instance well if a man
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has a penis then he shouldn't be a woman because
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makes no sense why is it that among polite company
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and god forbid you bring up per capita in crime
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statistics good god that goes even further back
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if you go back to the 1960s you have people saying
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well you can't say that sort of thing don't you
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understand that one man had a dream so therefore
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you need to destroy your inner cities on behalf of
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that but you know this is a really good post people
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got fired for wearing a MAGA hat in their facebook
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photo for making the okay hand sign for donating
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25 dollars to kyle rittenhouse's defense people
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different incidents for supporting trump opposing
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black lives matter people have been murdered for
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supporting that's true uh yeah this is a good one
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aaron danielson in portland remember what happened
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anti-far guy was it i want to say michael reinhall
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yeah if you want to get that up so we can make sure we're
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saying it properly right hang on and this is a particularly bad one
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two-thirds of democrat voters wanted to put you on house arrest for not
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getting the vaccine and at the time read this right the
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highlighted portion 45 percent wanted to put you in a camp
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a designated facility if you didn't want to get the vaccine
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it was michael reinhall yeah thank you for clarifying that
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these are the people you're talking these are the rabid dogs who believe
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whatever the media has told them that they need to believe
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and they are resentful and spiteful and nasty enough
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to actually follow through with it so if you can't even look at people
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applying the rules even remotely fairly to these same people
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who literally wanted to put you in a camp for not getting the vax
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well it's people reacting like a beaten dog isn't it you know
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they've been beaten their whole lives and then when finally the the master's
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hand has changed they're still reacting in the same way no
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time is to bite isn't it absolutely remember as well that in canada a father
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court orders over a child's gender transition therapy so
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the child is transitioning you say i don't want that the school's been hiding it
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from you the entire establishment is against you
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and he gets arrested and taken the custody of his own child away from it
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because he doesn't want the child to transition
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and permanently damage themselves for the rest of their lives
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and here's another here's some great examples going back to 2014
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the scientist dr matt taylor was forced to apologize after breaking down weeping
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because people tried to cancel him over wearing a shirt with sexy women on it
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my goodness i mean you could criticize it but from a fashion perspective but you know
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it's not sexist or offensive it's if anything quite flattering
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yeah there you go uh this kid wearing a maga hat who stood as people beat drums in his face
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and smiled was misrepresented so much by the media where people were saying
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reza aslan remember this one have you ever seen a more punchable face than this kid
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how is that not incitement to punch a child because he's smiling with political opinions different to him
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it also oh yeah it turned out that the guy banging the drum in his face is known for causing trouble
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and he actually what a surprise and the kid sued i think the media and won a lot of money
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yes he did you're right in thinking about it you are right
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so at least he got it got some you know justice for it
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but that doesn't take away everything that he was put through for standing his ground peacefully
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that's what these people do they will see people expressing opinions or standing their ground peacefully
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and then further gina carano says hey maybe let's not demonize people
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remember what happened in history when we demonize people so much
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uh jogging or paddle boarding in 2020 could get you arrested while everybody was throwing dinner parties
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it was much the same over here in the uk where we couldn't go outside for more than an hour
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legally while boris johnson and all the rest of them were conducting affairs and having parties with one another
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trust the science but then of course when it comes to racism that's more important than super spreader events
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so it's actually so racism remember was more of a public contagion than covid the thing that we destroyed the economy
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oh i thought you were saying something else i thought you were saying trust the science except when it comes to race science
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you want to go back to charles murray and richard hernstein
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when he's been trying to give speeches at universities
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the distribution of human achievement in science over the past few thousand years
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yeah academic work over the difference in human biology
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because otherwise he's in danger of being physically assaulted
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contrasting the difference between unite the right
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how that was handled versus black hebrew israelites
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because let's not forget this is when most people first noticed all this
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well this person grums put together a very handy thread
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turns out that he was donating to tulsi gabbard
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uh jim sterling made a video comparing him to the kkk
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and oh yeah they tried to dox him and tried to harass his wife
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co-creator of oculus was cancelled and fired from facebook for donating to a billboard that supported trump
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the guy who was the lead i think on hogwarts legacy
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was forced to quit after it turned out that he was an anti-sjw
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sweet baby inc tried to get some random guy cancelled because he put up a steam curator page
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cancelled notch for saying it's okay to be white and they took him off of his own minecraft credits
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oh yeah they reduced a twitch streamer pick of me to tears
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tracking people who are streaming hogwarts legacy
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so they could have mass public lynchings of these people in the comments
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apex legends lead balance designer was cancelled in 2021