The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #991

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters for the 2nd of september 2024 and i am

00:00:14.060 joined by stelios and bow the bowhawk sorry i'm bringing it back now the introductions although

00:00:22.900 i'm sort of recycling old names the boa constrictor that's right yeah the ballistic missile

00:00:29.620 and uh today we're going to be talking about the rise of the german right particularly the afd

00:00:34.840 stelios is going to be telling us about brazil and their war against elon and bow is going to be

00:00:40.940 telling us about how the poles are all lies sort of kind of kind of um we do have an announcement

00:00:48.020 and that is that islander merch is now leaving the merch store in a week's time so get what you want

00:00:54.380 as soon as possible before it's gone i actually wear some of the islander t-shirts outside of work

00:00:59.600 just for my own pleasure not being a business shill purely because i like them so they get my seal

00:01:07.860 of approval and that's not just because you know they make us money but also you walk down the road

00:01:13.700 and women look at you wearing islander t-shirts and that's right it's definitely the t-shirt you know 0.99

00:01:20.200 there's a kind of mystique there it's like what is this islander magazine starts up conversations

00:01:25.500 everywhere i can't move but um yes t-shirts are there um i quite like them uh please check them

00:01:31.980 out it's also a good way of supporting us if you know you want something in return but anyway enough

00:01:37.760 of that let's talk about germany shall we so there's been much discussion about this historic victory for

00:01:46.400 the afd in germany and what this basically means is that the afd the alternative for germany has won

00:01:53.360 its first state election and that is the state of thuringia i think it's pronounced sorry if i'm

00:02:01.000 mispronouncing it germans um i am english it's expected that i get language wrong and it'd be

00:02:06.160 poor form to correct that trend now but yes they got 32.8 percent of the vote in that state which is

00:02:14.400 well ahead of the second best and the christian democrat union with 23.6 percent so that's quite

00:02:22.720 a significant margin of victory there isn't it it is and it was specifically with young people young

00:02:30.560 people i think voted around 37 percent 37 38 something like that isn't it so i think it's 18 to 24 is

00:02:39.120 actually the the bracket where they're doing the best and the older someone gets the less likely

00:02:44.800 they are to vote for afd which sort of uh turns on its head the notion that you become more conservative

00:02:51.440 as you get older because actually it's the other way around and it's the older people that are

00:02:55.360 ruining everything for the younger people i feel like maybe germany that boomers in germany i think

00:03:01.920 may be a sort of the worst affected by a sort of boomer truth right they've really since day one

00:03:08.400 been hammered with guilt or whatever yes more than anywhere else in the world perhaps if you prioritize

00:03:15.920 the uh the wants and needs of germany your evil is basically that the sentiment behind that right

00:03:21.920 but um another province that's worth mentioning as well um here is uh the province of pharingia i'm sure

00:03:28.800 i'm mispronouncing that sorry um but one i will not mispronounce is this one saxony um this is

00:03:34.240 another province um where there have been elections going on and projections from this morning um suggest

00:03:40.800 that the cdu the christian democratic union is going to win but by a narrow margin so 31.9 percent

00:03:48.880 and the afd are predicted to get about 30.6 to 30.7 percent this is massive yeah it's still very close

00:03:57.440 isn't it yeah and it's also worth mentioning as well the cdu have held this state since um the

00:04:02.400 reunification of germany in 1990 and since the last election in 2019 the afd have gained around um

00:04:10.800 three percent whereas the cdu have lost 0.2 percent yeah their traditional power party whereas afd is just

00:04:18.800 rising right now it's interesting i wanted to ask actually i don't know if you'd know but

00:04:22.960 that would clearly have been in east germany yes the other one that low thuringia oh sorry thuringia

00:04:29.760 low thuringia sorry only a thousand years out of date there um was that in was that in east

00:04:34.800 or west germany i sort of guess east germany but i don't know it's obviously geographically central

00:04:41.520 germany but i think it would have still been in the east no i'm sure there'll be some germans that

00:04:45.600 will say so in the comments yeah let us know i am googling it right now we've got a live fact check

00:04:52.640 whether thuringia was behind the iron curtain and it says it was located in east central germany

00:04:58.960 during the cold war yeah it was part of soviet occupied zone of germany so another interesting

00:05:04.080 thing about saxony is the bsw which is a left-wing party that actually came out of um

00:05:12.240 the the former communist party in east germany um but they are anti-immigration as well and they

00:05:18.000 also did well i think they came third in in saxony i think it was good that they added the w because

00:05:25.040 other ones you know the bs party doesn't sound you know what they're very interested i've not heard

00:05:30.880 that i wonder what their actual take is what their angle is on that are they full-blown commies or are they

00:05:36.720 just socialists socially conservative but economically socialist okay so they're like

00:05:42.560 against giving ukraine weapons which i thought was interesting from the left um you do get it though

00:05:48.960 don't you um but this is also interesting as well because it's splitting the left-wing vote between

00:05:54.080 multiple different parties because it's a recent splinter group and um it's also worth mentioning um we

00:06:01.600 have a store and it's selling some t-shirts at the minute um all of the islander merch that we've

00:06:07.520 been selling and uh if you live under a rock this this wonderful magazine um yes we have t-shirts

00:06:16.240 associated with it some of the the graphics inside the magazine have been turned into t-shirts and you'll

00:06:21.120 no longer be able to buy these by the end of the week so if you would like a nice t-shirt i personally

00:06:25.600 wear some of these t-shirts outside of the office just in my daily life and so i do recommend them and

00:06:31.440 you want to support us this is a good way of doing so so i just thought i'd throw that one out there

00:06:36.160 limited edition in a few years they'll be worth thousands yeah there'll be um you know multi

00:06:42.800 millionaire collectors trying to buy your t-shirt off of you i'm sure is rare as champagne off the titanic

00:06:50.800 and even more sought after so it's worth mentioning a little bit about the german system because

00:06:56.240 processing these um election results um needs some sort of background so no that's just before you

00:07:02.960 go it's the guy that won is the equivalent of an mp or is he like a mayor so what is it it's the state

00:07:10.000 legislature i'm actually going to go into explaining this right now okay so all right sorry that's all

00:07:14.720 right um so germany has a sort of federal system um it's structured federally in other words and this

00:07:21.520 grants a reasonable level of autonomy to its states in areas such as things like education policing

00:07:26.800 culture and infrastructure and things like that not too dissimilar to some you know aspects of the uk

00:07:34.000 system as well and states also have representation in a federal legislative body that plays a central

00:07:41.280 role in believe it or not federal legislation and these like the rash tag that it's that what that is

00:07:47.840 thing well it's got its own name that's distinct from that there's obviously the national parliament

00:07:53.600 but there's also federal ones but anyway um these elections are also very significant in setting the

00:07:59.280 tone of the national elections because of course um these elections are ongoing and you know the best

00:08:06.160 way of predicting what happens in a national election is looking at what happened in these state elections

00:08:11.920 and they're also a proving ground for policies at a national level so the fact that the afd have got their

00:08:17.120 foot in the door and they can start um saying look we can have results here our policies actually do

00:08:23.120 work um that that is if you know things go well of course then that is quite important as well so each

00:08:31.200 of the 16 states in germany holds elections for their state parliament and this usually happens every

00:08:36.160 five years although some hold them every four years they're allowed to do that such as bremen and

00:08:41.680 therefore not every single state has one at once it's also worth mentioning that these are

00:08:46.880 held using a proportional voting system which means that if a party is to assume the position

00:08:53.040 of the state government that we usually have to be in coalition with another party

00:08:59.680 so does that answer what you're pretty much going to ask i think so yeah okay so what is important is

00:09:06.160 that olaf schultz uh the chancellor of germany um is urging german parties to exclude the afd

00:09:13.200 of course um from any coalitions to prevent them from being able to form governments basically

00:09:20.000 and um he belongs to the social democratic party um which are obviously opposed to the afd

00:09:27.360 need i say that he's gonna pull a macron yeah there are parallels and i did think to mention macron

00:09:33.920 actually that macron aligned himself in france with the left to try and keep the right out and it seems

00:09:41.360 to be that a similar thing is going on in germany as well um however it may be difficult in the future

00:09:48.560 for um parties like his to actually secure places in government because with the rise of the afd and

00:09:56.800 also the bsw on the left splitting the right and left vote yeah the majorities are going to be much less

00:10:03.280 and there might be more coalitions not less in which case party may simply say well actually

00:10:10.560 we do want to be in government and therefore we will go in coalition with one of these parties

00:10:15.200 even though they're being gate kept out of power i don't think that the the notion of a coalition is

00:10:21.200 irreparably bad in this case so long as there is a minimum amount of agreement on some things like

00:10:27.600 you know open borders policies and stuff reject them you know yeah well i think that the entire

00:10:33.840 german systems founded on collaboration in in terms of political parties isn't it so there's a certain

00:10:39.760 inevitability to it but if they all agree amongst themselves to keep the afd out that is a kind of 1.00

00:10:45.040 underhanded way of minimizing their political influence but it's also an act of desperation because

00:10:50.720 they're not doing that to other political parties they go into coalition with potentially competitors

00:10:56.240 yeah i heard it said back in the merkel days a number of times when they were they worried that

00:11:02.320 the afd might win one tiny thing they would all of them would say openly yeah we will do anything we

00:11:09.440 will form any coalition any combination of any parties to make sure they don't get a sniff of power

00:11:15.840 yes isn't it of course that has actually been taken it's actually been played out with making me

00:11:21.840 recently where you mentioned macron so yeah they'll do that in germany 100 examples in germany in a

00:11:28.480 minute but can i say one thing before we do this so macron also risks being impeached now doesn't he

00:11:35.120 yeah right so it doesn't work well so the media have also been carrying water for this so what is

00:11:42.640 interesting about this headline from politico german far-right wins first major election since world

00:11:47.440 war ii why is world war ii significant in this instance oh right they're trying to suggest that

00:11:52.400 there's some sort of ideological free line between the national socialist party of the mid-century

00:11:58.080 germans the mustache man and the afd aren't they that's what they're trying to do by association

00:12:05.200 but of course they can't outrightly just say these people are you know they're armband enthusiasts

00:12:11.600 they're not going to say that are they because that might be libelous and so they're using methods

00:12:16.480 like this to try and basically smear them as much as they possibly can that's a funny one i haven't

00:12:22.560 heard before armband enthusiasts came up with it on the spot actually very good um also um the times

00:12:30.720 here germany far-right has first big win since nazis the the times being very explicit there in their

00:12:38.160 association of course this isn't the case and we're going to be looking at what the afd actually advocates

00:12:44.160 for soon enough and uh in the past they've been designated as extremists and and interestingly

00:12:52.880 enough the two regions where they were designated extremists are the two where they've done the best

00:12:58.960 saxony anhalt of course saxony and uh herringia so they've come first in a province in which they

00:13:05.920 were designated an extremist group that shows how much that designation is worth doesn't it the power

00:13:13.440 of strasand yeah it also shows that a lot of people right now are not trusting the establishment and

00:13:22.160 they they see it this way so if the establishment however we define it constantly demonizes one party

00:13:29.680 and people think that that the establishment doesn't promote their interests they're gonna start

00:13:35.360 becoming very interested in their party well i think also people are losing faith in institutions

00:13:40.480 more generally because they realize that institutions are made up of people people can be biased and be

00:13:45.200 politically partisan i i i don't know if i agree entirely on this because we cannot but have

00:13:50.560 institutions i think that well of course but they're a bit selective they've lost their yeah sort of

00:13:55.360 people used to believe that they could do no wrong and i think that they've they've come to a more

00:13:59.920 realistic um perspective so i think in many ways germany is a sort of a more accelerated version of

00:14:07.680 britain in all sorts of senses one that they've been deracinated and gaslit more than we have

00:14:14.560 in guilt tripped more than we have and also flooded with syrians and afghans and everything more than we have 1.00

00:14:21.760 right so i think i feel like they are a bit further down the road than we are

00:14:26.400 mm-hmm um in in most senses yeah well that's certainly the case and like the brits not actually

00:14:33.760 inclined to get angry and go mad and riot and stuff not actually inclined that way naturally or anything

00:14:41.120 yes but um they tend to be quite civil in it takes a lot right yeah extremely civil right it takes a lot

00:14:48.400 before they sort of go berserk um but they've been pushed harder perhaps the hardest in europe or

00:14:56.480 western i would say so yeah and there definitely is a limit to how much people can be pushed sure

00:15:04.080 so there's also this as well which hasn't helped uh the media representation so this is uh i'm gonna 0.93

00:15:10.480 mispronounce his name sorry bjorn hooker uh i don't know but that's the best guess louts

00:15:18.160 excuse me i think it's bjorn hooker okay thank you told me yeah sorry if i mispronounced it 0.97

00:15:25.920 you've got brits and greeks i'm afraid but stelios you did a bit of german didn't you but anyway yeah he 0.67

00:15:31.840 um was the chair and still may well be of the afd in pharingia and he was found guilty of

00:15:39.840 intentionally deploying a slogan used by the nazi party's um palominicary wing which is the sa and

00:15:46.880 what that was was everything for germany which doesn't sound like one of the worst ones to me

00:15:55.120 but yes germany has very strict laws and this sort of thing you know you can't

00:15:58.880 uh do the roman salute and things like that um there are lots of laws that have been put in place

00:16:04.640 to prevent this sort of thing and this is a very easy thing that people can point to and say look

00:16:09.040 see they are the same but it could he he just claims it was an honest mistake i don't know i'd

00:16:15.360 be quite surprised if you grew up in germany and you didn't know the association of that slogan

00:16:19.920 but even so i still think people should be free to say it if they want to it's that classic thing

00:16:25.600 where we're we're in the point where any patriotism any nationalism even very very weak

00:16:32.000 milk toast nationalism any any tip of the cap to nationalism is well that's what the the nsdap

00:16:39.200 were that's what hitler was so you can't do you you're the same as hitler you want concentration camps

00:16:46.480 because you don't hate your own country i mean that's where we are isn't it yeah well it's pretty

00:16:51.360 flagrant as well the way in which they're going about it it's so in your face that even to your

00:16:56.400 normal person you know hang on a minute maybe you know my country isn't so bad and i think that it

00:17:02.400 doesn't really resonate with ordinary people in a way that they would hope but um it is worth

00:17:07.440 mentioning as well the afd's manifesto is now available you don't need um a vpn anymore and

00:17:13.600 setting it to germany to be able to read it and it's also in english so if you are curious about what

00:17:18.480 what they believe um here it is so i've previously pointed out i think in a segment with you stelios

00:17:24.880 um that their their views on democracy and their sort of core values which is chapter one of their

00:17:30.800 manifesto like they want a leaner government they want less big government they want a greater

00:17:36.240 separation of powers um hang on are you sure samson i'm sure josh so yeah they are we gonna get banned

00:17:44.080 just for just mentioning it limit the influence and power of political parties it's so radical

00:17:49.520 they want free elections of candidates they want to curtail lobbyism i mean this this doesn't sound

00:17:55.120 like the the actions of the nsdap does it where's the mention of labels from yeah it's funny that but

00:18:02.640 yes let's see there is a reasonable section on immigration here no regular immigration sort of

00:18:10.640 talking about asylum immigration from other eu countries it's all pretty normal stuff

00:18:16.400 the afd to my mind look like a classically liberal party to call them far right or hard right or extreme

00:18:25.440 right or even uh national socialists is so far off the mark from what they're putting forward that

00:18:32.480 it's ridiculous i i'll read it and see if there is any mentioning of the word uber mensch

00:18:37.280 there's not so it's also worth mentioning polling at the minute this is the the national parliament

00:18:47.680 voting intention so the afd are polling second um and the cdu is still pretty static this is

00:18:56.880 um just over the course of you know a few months really a year or so and i don't see them necessarily

00:19:05.760 closing the gap here however they may be able to drag the cdu rightwards and get some concessions

00:19:15.040 in terms of immigration perhaps it'll have to see how it goes because they are also trying to

00:19:20.880 persecute them obviously it started with them it started in 2015 with merkel who i think was in

00:19:27.760 cdu yes that's right yeah also foreshadowing my segment we really trust what politico is telling us

00:19:35.760 here not really but a lot of the polls seem to be indicating similar things and i think that there

00:19:40.960 is a reasonable cohort of people that are still voting for the cdu and uh it's also worth mentioning

00:19:48.800 this if we can zoom out a little bit from this samson i don't have the means to do so um so this is

00:19:54.880 saxony of course one of the states that we talked about where the afd narrowly

00:19:58.720 lost out so the afd are that blue line there and the cdu are that black line there we can see

00:20:05.680 since 1994 all the way to 2024 over the past 30 years that the cdu have been on a trend of decline

00:20:12.960 and it looks like since september of 2014 uh the afd have been on the rise and it's to the point now

00:20:20.960 where it looks like the two lines are going to intersect and the afd are going to take over

00:20:26.000 in the future if you're taking this sort of long view of german politics and i think that this

00:20:30.400 actually might be what other people have been looking at in the sort of uh german regime if

00:20:35.440 you will and saying hang on a minute if we let this carry on the afd are only going to continue to gain

00:20:40.320 so we need to act now to keep them out otherwise they're going to continue to

00:20:44.080 to be a thorn in our side basically and upset our plans but this sort of it indicates some sort

00:20:50.400 of positive change in germany that people are moving towards the afd to alternative right-wing

00:20:55.920 parties rather than the establishment ones which is promising and we have to mention if we take

00:21:00.960 this into account and i think that there is some plausibility to it that in a space of 10 years

00:21:07.120 because it's september 14 and now it's september 24 they nearly tripled their numbers from a 10

00:21:16.240 percent they're around to 30 percent yes yeah so even if the trend slows down it's still pretty

00:21:23.360 strong isn't it it is i mean tripling your electoral base in 10 years it's it's it's it's an important

00:21:30.240 thing it's it's an achievement no that's a good observation yeah and also i read a lot of people

00:21:35.760 who claim to be surprised and they're saying you know the afd is rising yeah it's rising because of

00:21:41.120 the policies that the eu is promoting the last 10 years and then no wonder yeah if you control

00:21:47.520 immigration and stop suicidal green energy policy yeah that's how they're going to stop the the the

00:21:53.040 far right as they call it you cannot love the cause and hate the effect i mean that's how it goes if

00:22:00.080 you're a rational human being it's also interesting to see between about 2014 and 16 or 17 that the cdu

00:22:07.600 fall off the cliff a bit or they rebound at the same time as the afd get a spike what happened

00:22:15.120 something happening around then was that when germany started realizing that they'd been flooded by

00:22:20.320 with columnists i'm not entirely sure it might be uh what happened around that time well wasn't it when

00:22:27.200 merkel when was it when merkel opened the doors and just letting a million syrians i think it could

00:22:31.840 be yeah 15. yeah yeah that could be it um but anyway the final thing i wanted to end on is that

00:22:38.800 brandenburg is set to have its election on the 22nd of september and the afd are now leading the polls

00:22:46.320 so this is something to pay attention to because it could be that gradually the afd are going to start

00:22:51.680 taking over uh state governments and this is significant as well because of course brandenburg

00:22:56.880 surrounds berlin and uh it'd be very symbolic to uh to take that that province i think and so

00:23:04.800 yes some positive news obviously keep an eye on the persecution of the afd because i think they 0.89

00:23:10.400 are a perfectly legitimate political party i think they have a right to exist

00:23:14.080 um they seem to me to be classically liberal uh with some socially conservative policies certainly not uh

00:23:21.040 you know they're not national socialists very far from it and um i hope them i hope they do well i

00:23:28.640 hope it all goes well for germany because i don't think the german people deserve what has been imposed 1.00

00:23:33.440 upon them one thing to mention about a year ago now i suppose something like that i interviewed peter

00:23:40.960 bohringer remember that at all so that's on course yeah he's one of the chairman of he's one of the vice

00:23:46.640 chairman of afd i think they've got loads of we've vice chair it's worth mentioning we've spoke to

00:23:50.800 a few people from the afd over the years haven't we on our website so if you want to check those out

00:23:54.560 and he's a perfectly reasonable rational completely normal dare i say even milky so i was far too

00:24:02.160 extreme for him i was saying stuff and he's like oh i can't say so they're normal guys they just

00:24:10.640 don't want to see their country utterly annihilated from within right that's that's all they are

00:24:15.040 absolutely so we've got some rumble chats i believe so um keith for 20 thank you very much says if you

00:24:24.160 can't answer this it's all right but how many of the lotus eaters will be want to be visiting the

00:24:29.360 reform uk conference in birmingham i'll be there at least um i don't know i'm i don't know whether

00:24:37.040 people are actually going to that or not i think karl is going okay i think i think i might be wrong so

00:24:43.360 sorry karl if i'm wrong about that i think karl said he was going there was going to take a camera

00:24:47.680 but i'm not going i think me and dan would and probably karl but karl doesn't care

00:24:52.320 certainly me and dan will be persona non grata i wouldn't be welcome there absolutely wouldn't be

00:24:56.560 welcome um i've got better ways to spend my time uh to be honest yeah i i don't really trust reform that

00:25:04.800 much to be honest yeah they're containment as far as i can tell where's where has nigel been these last 0.93

00:25:11.840 few weeks he's been useless yeah where has he been he should be he should be banging that drum about 0.93

00:25:17.760 the slaughter of the innocents in southport hmm he's been more concerned about preserving his own skin 0.97

00:25:25.520 really keeping his powder dryer yeah so laura konigsberg can't have a pop at him so uh saxony

00:25:31.760 anhalt and saxony are not the same thing uh i know they've got different names um old eagle

00:25:38.000 there's the rise of the afd can coincides with the youth becoming able to vote and the wussified

00:25:44.160 older germans are dying out the germans who hate themselves aren't reproducing which leaves a vacuum 0.97

00:25:48.400 for the youth that seems to be what is going on isn't it no thank you very much

00:25:53.520 yeah right let's sort the technology first the passing of the mouse the sacred custom at load seat

00:26:07.280 yeah i'll i'll show the merch

00:26:11.440 right

00:26:11.680 right right a few days ago x was banned in brazil and this was the outcome of a feud that has lasted

00:26:23.840 for a long time now between elon musk and alexander demoraes who is one of the judges in brazil and i

00:26:31.760 think it is obvious that it's not just one judge there's a whole brazilian government behind him right

00:26:38.720 here we have this uh post bolsonaro is speaking about the brazilian supreme court banning x and vpns

00:26:45.200 x being forced out of brazil is yet another hard blow to our freedom today we woke up without x

00:26:51.360 and they once accused me of being a dictator this is interesting because i remember some time ago there

00:26:58.080 was one progressive you know so-called progressive i i knew who just instantly out of nowhere just said

00:27:03.760 obviously we're supporting lula said no no there's nothing's obvious about it just why should i support

00:27:10.640 lula or something wait i think yeah sort of borderline communist or something just not my cup of tea

00:27:21.760 right here we have the main antagonist in this case we have alexander demoraes who is he does look

00:27:27.040 uniquely evil doesn't he just to throw it out there yeah save everyone commenting on on you know

00:27:32.640 brazil's supreme federal court minister they say that he looks like a super villain we are going 0.93

00:27:38.880 to say a bit more than that because a lot of people have focused on how he looks like daft potato yeah

00:27:44.640 anyone that's bald gets accused of being a super villain sometimes i get that i look like a bond

00:27:48.320 feeling like i don't know what they what they mean by that but um maybe you have a cat and you're

00:27:55.520 stroking the cat there a white cat with a blue and green eye it's that big red button that you press and

00:28:02.080 the floor falls through yeah mr burns that that's what does it so we have an article here by huffington

00:28:07.520 post you could read it and basically it says that there's a long feud going uh about for about a month

00:28:14.480 now and what happened is that demoraes asked elon to ban and suspend some accounts and name a

00:28:23.760 representative elon declined that as we will see in the in due course one of the persons that

00:28:32.160 the judge asked elon to censor is a senator a brazilian senator so it's definitely political censoring

00:28:39.440 and basically at some point elon didn't appoint a representative demoraes gave him a 24 hours

00:28:45.680 deadline elon elon didn't do anything and basically he said that we are going to ban

00:28:52.400 x from brazil and a lot of people are using vpns to enter x and they say that we are going to impose

00:28:59.680 a fine of around eight thousand nine hundred dollars daily to people who use vpn people and businesses

00:29:07.280 who use vpn to access so there's a couple of things to be said here and the first thing is that

00:29:13.680 the legal representative for x or for elon that seemed like they were trying to get elon to offer

00:29:19.600 up a sacrificial lamb basically as my understanding and two anyone that wants to ban vpns does not have

00:29:26.160 your best interests at heart they want to ban you anonymously accessing stuff as is your right you have

00:29:33.760 a right to a private life under pretty much every form of constitution ever and if people don't want

00:29:40.800 that then they're out to harm you exactly and i think the same goes with censorship at large because

00:29:47.520 people who want to deprive us of the of speech and of the right to speak also want to deprive us of the

00:29:54.080 right to point out abuse of power so this is pretty much news to me i've heard rumblings seen a few

00:30:01.680 headlines but to hear that brazil or just there's just a blanket ban on all vpns any type of vpn

00:30:09.040 a blanket fine if you use one fine is for people who not for people who use vpn but for people who

00:30:17.360 use vpn to access x right okay so still a blanket ban of of twitter though yes that is that is definitely

00:30:27.040 definitely dictatorial yeah dictatorial censorship the terry gilliam film is looking all the more

00:30:32.400 sort of prophetic now isn't it yeah we have here a former judge of the brazilian supreme court who said

00:30:39.520 basically that she was the first and only active judge in brazil to denounce the abusers of the court

00:30:45.280 and she says essentially that it was clear that what would happen if demoraes continued in his position

00:30:50.480 would be a loss in freedoms and you can see her here she's talking about demoraes and how the

00:30:58.720 brazilian supreme court can be weaponized against the people's freedoms right we have here michael

00:31:06.160 schellenberger talking about here about thousands of brazilians resisting the orders and using vpns to

00:31:14.160 access x and we also have here someone in brazil who is very open about using vpns we have here marsh

00:31:22.240 marcel van hatton who is a political and a scientist and journalist and he is basically saying that

00:31:31.760 this tweet may cost me almost 10 000 us dollars but in in i am tweeting this with vpn and he is

00:31:39.840 essentially saying that the government is acting in a very censorious and authoritarian manner so i

00:31:46.720 think that's a brave post it's a brave post yeah right we have here also michael schellenberger

00:31:54.000 saying that what is particularly interesting is that kamala harris and joban have made virtually zero

00:32:02.000 statements about this i wonder why yeah what a surprise what a surprise well obviously this works

00:32:08.800 in their favor doesn't it it damages elon's reputation and it's one of the the arms of you

00:32:14.720 know the regime that aren't explicitly controlled because of course we know that the fbi for example

00:32:20.800 is politically partisan because they've repeatedly ruled in favor of the democrats and they were in

00:32:27.200 communication with all of the social media companies to suppress things like the hunter

00:32:30.800 biden laptop story which they lied about being russian disinformation as well as a whole host of

00:32:36.720 other things you know that fauci parody accounts being taken down during the pandemic even though

00:32:42.080 there were parody accounts just anything that could potentially damage the reputation of the regime and

00:32:48.480 their schemes was suppressed so this is great for them there are definitely vested interests on a global

00:32:57.040 level to bring down x because x is one of the platforms of free speech and you can use free speech to

00:33:05.200 point out abuses of power and we see throughout the world especially in the western world because in the

00:33:11.120 non-western world things are a bit more authoritarian by nature i think it's it's not a weird thing to say

00:33:17.120 we see especially in the western world a very organized effort to do this and a very organized effort to

00:33:24.400 criticize and demonize anyone who would point out abuses of power as you know far-right racists and

00:33:30.720 extremists and whatever right so there are two things here that arise two issues that need to be

00:33:38.000 discussed and obviously i'm no legal expert and i'm not going to be commenting about the issues and

00:33:42.960 intricacies of brazilian law but one question here is the question of whether brazilian law has been

00:33:48.640 violated by x and the other question is obviously the not insignificant question of free speech which

00:33:54.640 we will talk about during the end of the segment so we have here a lot of people who are saying that

00:34:02.400 elon already has violated brazilian law and there is a whole host of people celebrities and all sorts of

00:34:15.200 um intellectuals you know especially guardian types mark ruffalo yeah a famous intellectual

00:34:24.400 we'll go to we'll go to we'll go to guardian in the in the next slide mark ruffalo steeped in

00:34:29.280 political theory i mean the political theory of the left of contemporary left isn't that weird to get

00:34:35.440 steeped into them yeah they really bring down intellectuals to the level of people who have no

00:34:41.760 no you know are not initiated into the ways of thinking but mark ruffalo say here but essentially

00:34:48.000 that he's a weird and entitled billionaire tech bro tax him heavily and what i want to say this i

00:34:53.440 find this particularly appalling because all these you know sensitive leftist progressive types they

00:35:00.080 constantly make it especially when they're talking about latin america and they do so also when it

00:35:04.960 comes to venezuela they claim to speak in favor of the people but they constantly reduce all

00:35:12.240 questions to dilemma dilemmas between the government of a latin american country and someone from

00:35:19.280 outside so for instance in venezuela they constantly talk about the venezuelan people but

00:35:24.400 they reduce everything to a question of u.s versus maduro and here they reduce everything to a question of

00:35:30.960 of elon versus brazilian government well if you make a distinction between the people and the

00:35:36.080 people who rule them it it weakens the power that they have over them doesn't it exactly yeah and

00:35:41.920 that's why in mainstream media you constantly hear people saying brazil rather than the brazilian

00:35:47.280 government and do so the same for any country in order to blur the lines between the state and the

00:35:53.440 people i'm not represented in my parliament so why would anyone else be we have here robert reich in the

00:35:59.680 guardian now this guy is talking about it he says he may be the richest man in the world but that

00:36:04.880 doesn't mean we're powerless to stop him and essentially he's saying that x has been used to

00:36:11.200 spread disinformation hatred he's talking about how x was used in england during the southport

00:36:20.240 tragedies and what came afterwards essentially he says that he's rapidly transforming his enormous

00:36:26.720 wealth he's the richest person in the world into a huge source of unaccountable political power that's

00:36:32.480 now backing trump and other authoritarians around the world i find this very appalling and one-sided

00:36:39.840 for one reason because when it when it comes to i really hate the bigotry of people who call themselves

00:36:46.400 anti-authoritarians because i call myself an anti-authoritarian as well but one of the

00:36:52.160 one of the tests i use to see if someone is really honest about it is to see if they if they care

00:36:58.960 about authoritarianism both from both sides so you have people right now who constantly focus on the

00:37:07.520 duties of people whether they're rich or not they constantly focus on the on the duties of the governed

00:37:15.040 and they constantly try to um say that anyone who insists that those who govern do have duties

00:37:22.720 to their own people is a far-right extremist and a racist when they do this no they're they're

00:37:28.960 they're absolutely not in not against authoritarianism they're pro their own authoritarianism of course 1.00

00:37:35.200 yeah that robert reich is um an absolute scumbag a mentalist an actual mentalist 0.99

00:37:41.760 right oh he's worried about trump and authoritarians around the world i don't hear him saying anything 0.99

00:37:46.320 about xi jinping can't remember the last time he talked said anything about the authoritarianism in

00:37:52.640 china yeah well that's where he gets his economics from because he's certainly no economist that i uh

00:37:58.080 respect he uploads to twitter all the time as well so that the notion that it's something evil and yet

00:38:05.040 he's on there posting his nonsense yeah you constantly see that we saw also also with ian

00:38:10.640 dund and who was the other careful how you pronounce his name i use that d okay that's getting out of 0.54

00:38:21.600 context paul mason all these people they constantly you know they constantly focus on the responsibilities

00:38:28.000 of people to obey the government irrespective of whether the laws and decrees are sensible

00:38:35.840 and uh they always say that anyone who in who would dare to insist that the to insist that governments

00:38:42.400 do have responsibilities towards their own people is a bad person and i think that they they are bad people

00:38:49.120 a filth yeah right so um elon here is responding to some people who are again saying that somehow

00:38:57.280 brazilian law has been violated and he said he has set up an account or not necessarily elon but he

00:39:04.720 has marketed it and pointed people's attention to it called alexander files that is an account that is

00:39:11.920 specifically dedicated to criticizing alexander demoraes okay it says this account will reveal the

00:39:19.440 unlawful directive issues to x by alexander demoraes and they have here something that is really

00:39:26.800 interesting and they're saying look at the order from demoraes in the left and also the law of brazil

00:39:34.400 in the right now they have this in in portuguese which i think is the language of brazil but i do

00:39:42.400 remember that there was a a translated version right so there is an ongoing dispute also about whether

00:39:51.840 brazilian law has been violated or not and whether the decrease by x by x and also the other side

00:39:59.520 insists that perhaps it is the decrease of demoraes that go against the laws of brazil but also the

00:40:05.920 spirit of the laws of any free country or any country that wants to call itself free right so we have here

00:40:12.400 something else a lot of people are criticizing elon for allegedly doxing the accounts he didn't want

00:40:19.440 to suspend but i think that there may be another way to look at it because if we point out here we will

00:40:26.400 see that we there is the order of the supreme court and the seven accounts followed by names now the issue

00:40:37.120 here is that i i wouldn't necessarily call that doxing when it comes to the government because

00:40:42.800 the government already has the names of these people and with respect to lots of plenty of them

00:40:49.200 they asked for specific names so the government already knew now speaking of that i don't know

00:40:56.480 exactly if this is the best way to go about it maybe they could have blurred the names or something

00:41:01.200 that's just a question to put out because i want to show you a lot of the stats sorry just to be

00:41:07.600 clear the names of who what the accounts in which um the brazilian judiciary wanted censored i think yes

00:41:15.360 you see here we have the supreme tribunal federal and they are saying essentially that they want to

00:41:23.840 ban these accounts so this is the brazilian government asking elon to yeet these people

00:41:28.800 yes okay and they already have the names of these people right now i don't know if with the account

00:41:35.200 maybe they could have blurred the names or something because obviously in brazil there are people who

00:41:40.960 are pro the government and maybe the safety of these people is at stake this is just something to

00:41:46.800 bear in mind right here we go to the so what i wanted to say with a section is that it isn't by any

00:41:54.160 means obvious that x has banned has violated brazilian law as a lot of people want to make us think

00:42:03.040 now we go to the issue of free speech which isn't particularly small i think and i would say that

00:42:08.960 essentially calls for censoring free speech are calls for criminalizing the means by which people can

00:42:16.480 expose actual and potential abuses of power by governments so if people are censorious yeah i'm i'm

00:42:23.920 i'm not going to show mercy i'm not going to be well disposed towards them because i when they

00:42:30.560 want to deprive me of the means of exposing their actual or potential abuses of power well i just don't

00:42:38.000 trust them well what it fundamentally boils down to is the the enemies of ordinary people using their

00:42:44.880 um elected power yeah to to silence any criticism that would be of concern to ordinary people it's

00:42:52.000 antithetical to this notion of representative democracy yes and it's not just an issue of

00:42:56.880 theory we also see how it plays out here in europe we live there every day people who just dare to

00:43:04.800 say that governments have responsibilities towards us towards their own people we're branded as bad

00:43:12.320 people and that's appalling we have here adf says that the state of freedom of expression in brazil is

00:43:19.040 dire censorship has been normalized and there are widespread unlawful restrictions of online speech

00:43:24.800 and criminal proceedings to chill and penalize online expression by journalists influencers and

00:43:30.560 politicians can i make a broader point of course um broadly speaking censorship doesn't work certainly

00:43:39.760 not for very long if you look at some of the most censorious societies that have ever been

00:43:44.240 perhaps maoist era china or stalinist era soviet union or even if you go back centuries go back to

00:43:53.040 sort of um the papal states at the height of their censorship against luther or something it might work

00:44:00.720 briefly if you really crack down on it really crack down you know smash up any means of reprinting the

00:44:08.320 information and kill anyone that found propagating it and stuff okay maybe for a bit but eventually

00:44:14.960 the truth will out nearly always yeah we know what happened in maoist era china now we know

00:44:20.400 all the crimes of stalin really we know all the attempts that failed for censorship throughout 0.95

00:44:26.560 throughout the centuries more or less they're not going to be able to do it even if they even if

00:44:31.200 twitter disappeared elon and twitter disappeared tomorrow it's not going to stop people exchanging

00:44:38.480 information again if you look at the soviet union perhaps after a bit after stalin you know it's a

00:44:43.680 very very very very very censorious police state yeah it doesn't stop people underground journalists it

00:44:49.760 doesn't stop people talking so they've it's it's a they're not going to be able to do it the brazilian

00:44:56.480 government's not going to be able to stop people from exchanging information from noticing

00:45:01.040 reality and talking about it amongst themselves yeah whether online or not um the the thing that

00:45:07.280 comes to mind is that a lot of western governments are doing this and they obviously know that this

00:45:11.520 doesn't work because we've got so many examples throughout history and part of me has been

00:45:15.600 entertaining the idea that maybe they only need it to work for the short term and it won't matter

00:45:19.920 by the time people find out maybe maybe and also counterpoint just to against what i just said there

00:45:26.880 on some level it can work quite well for example the uh the laptop from hell you know if you can

00:45:34.560 censor it in just enough yeah plus just enough doubt in people's mind for a window of time

00:45:40.800 then it can achieve some of its aims an intended effect that we can't go into because of certain

00:45:47.120 guidelines and places where this goes out sorry i just wanted to make sure you're not wrong yeah

00:45:53.760 you're not wrong don't want to get us in trouble here we have a counter argument to what i just said

00:45:58.320 they have from creaky news and they say that the arrest of telegram ceo and brazil's ban of

00:46:05.200 x are more about tech companies flaunting their unchecked power than they are about freedom of speech

00:46:11.680 now one thing you could say that to a level obviously the more power you have the more you

00:46:19.440 can abuse it but the same goes for mainstream outlets and governments so that that's very

00:46:29.040 one-sided when people who say obviously the more power you have and if you are the world's richest man

00:46:34.480 you do have power and it doesn't mean that you can always that you always necessarily use it for good

00:46:40.080 you can use it for good you can use it for bad but the thing is that if what what is interesting here

00:46:46.080 is that a lot of mainstream outlets and a lot of governments are attacking elon's ex and elon musk

00:46:52.960 personally in this case and in doing so yet again they are make it making it all about the responsibilities

00:47:01.680 of people towards governments never about governments towards their own people the question of what

00:47:08.720 responsibilities and duties governments have towards their own people is being completely

00:47:13.520 thrown away by this rhetoric yes the more power you have the more you the more you can use it and

00:47:20.400 the more you can use it for better or worse i trust elon musk more than i trust my government

00:47:25.040 same because they didn't because he hasn't tried to censor me and i don't exactly trust elon musk

00:47:30.400 that much yeah obviously so just being pro elon musk here doesn't mean that you have to be a fanboy

00:47:37.680 saying that elon mass can do no wrong any anyone with power they can do right or wrong of course

00:47:46.000 it does seem to me very clear that what's going on here is simply that elon isn't towing the line

00:47:51.760 the message yeah he's not on board with their megalomania whatever it is whatever the grand

00:47:59.600 plan is is to censor the whole world certainly the west or even present most of the world actually he's 0.90

00:48:06.080 not on board with that program it's just as simple as that if he was if he was pliant a bit more like

00:48:11.600 zuck or someone even more pliant than that um then there wouldn't be this outrage this there

00:48:17.440 won't be a problem exactly yeah would there so it's simply it's simply that isn't it they want

00:48:22.240 to make alternative media into a an extension of mainstream media we have here the one meme to end

00:48:29.840 with brazil is facing a censorship crisis that threatens our democracy free speech and the checks

00:48:34.400 and balances between the branches of government and what i want to say here is that it's just it is

00:48:40.880 ironic but to be expected at this point because leftists are constantly talking about democracy and

00:48:46.320 their democracy but you can't have democracy without dialogue and that and you don't have to think

00:48:53.360 that democracy even is the best system to say this you can't have democracy without dialogue you can't

00:48:59.280 have dialogue without free speech so if you are against free speech you're against democracy it's

00:49:04.160 just just as simple as that and here we have by royce jacob again pointing out that there is a globally

00:49:11.120 synchronized operation of people who are basically saying elon musk and x is a threat to

00:49:16.240 our democracy meaning that our is something quite different than what the people would use to say

00:49:24.080 because it's an our democracy that excludes people and we see this because all of these people are

00:49:30.720 constantly trying to tell us that if we demand things from the government if we constantly saying

00:49:36.880 that the duties have that the government has duties towards us we are brandished as bad people

00:49:43.200 have these people even read lock no the social contract with vintage car benjamin quote

00:49:52.320 the responsibilities of of uh government have they even

00:49:59.840 i i don't think so but even i some of them may have but they have the marxist interpretation it's like

00:50:05.600 the russonian version of lot where the government can do anything actually yes yeah right so before we

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00:52:11.440 voice of god yeah stroke apple jesus samson yeah the bush has spoken bold eagle 1787 a counterpoint to 0.89

00:52:20.880 the morons who think x being banned and telegram ceo being arrested is a good thing why do you not 0.94

00:52:26.320 care about big tech flaunting their power to keep regimes in power hypocrites yeah as if big tech 0.99

00:52:32.640 isn't involved in mainstream media or something just come on take it away okay have i got control of

00:52:42.240 okay i've got i've got i've got control the mouse all right let's just talk a little bit about

00:52:48.480 polls and polling uh because holes they're uh good people winged hussars good plumbers good taxi drivers

00:52:56.800 yeah um terrible history terrible very very sad history it is actually holes no i'm talking about

00:53:03.280 polling e-o-double-l not the people not the great and noble people from poland um so yeah just talk

00:53:11.520 about polls a bit because um like everything else in our world it seems now that it's been completely

00:53:17.760 corrupted um and you have to be extremely careful where something you could have kind of taken for

00:53:22.960 granted just a few years back um now you have to be extremely careful what you're looking at

00:53:28.560 and i guess that is the world we're living in some sort of post-truth world or some sort of truth

00:53:33.360 augmented world where um i happen to think i hope i'm not being massively arrogant here but i'm having

00:53:41.120 studied history um it puts me in good stead because when you study history you have to look at the source

00:53:47.360 first and foremost before you really dig into what's being said look at who the historian is or the

00:53:52.400 source and have a look at them first who they are where they're coming from what biases they might

00:53:59.040 have and once you've taken all that into account then look at what they're saying yeah and only then

00:54:04.960 really can you start to even hope to be getting at what's really happening or what you're really being

00:54:11.040 presented with um now hopefully a lot of people most of our audience i'm sure do that on the daily

00:54:16.880 basis now with their news intake right you have to do that with the news you can't just take what the

00:54:21.280 mainstream corporate media news tell you or even what we're telling you because of course we're

00:54:25.120 we're biased but we're quite open about it what we well that's what we're part of the reason why

00:54:30.000 our company exists is that we present you what we think but we don't try and dress it up as

00:54:34.960 here's objective reality you know it's basically here's our opinion on something and it's up to you

00:54:40.880 to basically judge us right and and sort of make a character judgment on us specifically the person

00:54:47.120 presenting the segment which makes it easier because you're not having to judge an entire

00:54:51.680 media organization which might be faceless you're just having to judge one person or a couple of

00:54:56.560 people yeah which makes it a lot easier uh to assess whether it's valid or not really doesn't it

00:55:02.800 we're coming from the right side of the aisle at least centrally some of us are sensible centrists

00:55:08.080 and some of them are more some of us are more right leaning than that but we sort of open about it

00:55:12.960 you can take it or leave it sometimes you see uh coping leftists in our comments saying you guys

00:55:17.360 are no different when we have a go at the the biased mainstream media they're like you guys are

00:55:21.200 no different yeah yeah we know yeah we know different well we are at least we're being open

00:55:25.600 about it we're not saying that we have the truth we don't say yeah hang on a minute that's

00:55:30.560 disinformation we're not the arbiters of objective truth we're not claiming to be that speak for

00:55:35.200 yourself yeah he knows everything immaculate immaculate at all times um no so and this sort

00:55:44.480 of now extends beyond just the the news fake news it extends to polls and polling yeah that now i

00:55:52.160 think you have to be now extremely careful with any poll that you see and actually have a look at

00:55:58.960 like who is the poll who's it been done by what were their criteria uh who who owns the company

00:56:05.120 even polls don't release themselves all this sort of stuff there are a couple of things to say here

00:56:09.280 um first of which is that polls have a significant effect on election results and therefore there is

00:56:15.760 an incentive in place to fiddle the numbers and there are ways of doing that via the methodology that

00:56:21.440 should be visible to people who know about this stuff and i'm a loser that learned this stuff at

00:56:25.440 university and i know all about uh sort of research methodology particularly the stuff used in polling

00:56:31.520 isn't that complicated and therefore you can normally see it and a lot of the time the people carrying

00:56:36.080 out polling for these companies aren't particularly good at this sort of thing and sometimes they do

00:56:41.440 just make mistakes because they're often failed academics um and uh so they tend not to be that great

00:56:50.720 anyway but sometimes there can be decisions made in say sampling or in their methodology

00:56:58.960 that will almost certainly bias the results but not in a way that you can put down to malpractice

00:57:06.640 you know mal you know just an accident but in ways in which you can say well this has shaped the

00:57:14.000 result in a very deliberate way except you can tell that because no one would make this mistake

00:57:20.000 unintentionally so there's all sorts of things i'd like to go into all sorts of details about how

00:57:25.760 and why some polls can be inaccurate but then also there's a whole nother beast of just deliberately

00:57:32.240 putting out false polls just they're almost entirely fictional right and we're also we're also in that

00:57:38.400 world i think that's what we didn't have at least as much of a few years back where people just sort of

00:57:44.160 fairly openly fairly nakedly just put out a completely false pole and just at least for a while it's

00:57:52.080 swallowed by some people and that's enough to move the needle and that's all they ever wanted anyway

00:57:57.520 um so for example here's one thing oh abc stroke ipsos put out a poll saying uh if you can't if

00:58:07.520 you're only listening to this harris is on 52 percent and trump's on 46 percent um i guess that's

00:58:14.480 nation who's gonna believe that well it turns out that it was it turns out that quite quickly it was

00:58:19.760 debunked quite quickly it was shown that they uh to be as kind as possible uh were being partisan

00:58:27.920 about how they'd done the poll in the first place well it makes for good propaganda doesn't it because it

00:58:33.280 gets presented as being objective just like here is what people are inclined to vote for and people vote

00:58:39.040 tactically don't they it might might change how people vote maybe they're voting with the majority

00:58:44.480 you know there's there is a psychological effect whereby people don't want to be in a

00:58:49.360 in a minority group and there are multiple layers to that um but just even within a certain group

00:58:55.760 identity you don't want to be in the minority group by definition because it's disadvantageous you

00:59:01.600 want to be in the majority group and by signaling these sorts of things these potential undecideds

00:59:07.680 that are swayed by such sort of trivial things as that that could be significant

00:59:12.960 i wouldn't believe that if the sample was basically the biden harris administration

00:59:19.280 her actual team yeah they only polled her team yes right exactly well that's the classic thing you can

00:59:24.880 there's a million and one ways you can skew this stuff if you want to just who you ask also famously

00:59:31.600 loads of people lie when they're asked in the street or on a poll or anything they say what they think the

00:59:38.000 person at the other end of the phone or whatever would like to hear well normally those are people

00:59:42.400 do that the the bias in political polling is leftward and so people normally report um being

00:59:49.200 more left-wing when asked for polling than they actually are in terms of both you know their voting

00:59:55.360 intentions and just their values more generally and that's a consistent trend known to political

01:00:01.280 science is pretty well established in fact lots and lots of people when they actually get into the

01:00:05.600 voting booth both ways both left and right do differently to what they've told all their

01:00:09.920 friends and family yeah quite often that's the thing also in dating this happens but this is a bit

01:00:15.360 you know no it usually happens a lot a lot of people are when asked these are saying that they're

01:00:22.560 attracted to a completely different kind of personality than the one they're actually attracted to

01:00:28.000 yeah yeah when i when i uh i'm on a date i say i'm a very successful banker but really no i'm joking

01:00:36.000 i don't do that i've got a collection of ferraris yeah no um but i took the bus here today yeah like

01:00:41.680 our audience quite often say they want white pills and they never click on them when we do them yeah

01:00:45.520 so that's true that's true that's true well i just had a pop our own audience not a good idea sorry

01:00:51.360 guys sorry guys i'm gonna do a white pill next week i actually am i'm gonna do click on it when i do it

01:00:56.640 i'm gonna talk about space with dan and going to mars king elon taking us back to the moon and mars

01:01:03.840 anyway talk back to polling um yeah it seems now we're in a sort of a some sort of augmented truth

01:01:12.000 age where now polling is a battlefield um but they have been wrong i mean for example a lot of the polls

01:01:20.000 said that um the brexit the the the remainers were going to win easily they didn't happen if anyone

01:01:26.160 remembers 2016 was a 99 probability hillary was going to win yeah right all of them were saying

01:01:33.200 that or nearly all of them not not all of them you know and quarter came out early and said trump

01:01:38.000 was going to win if you remember that um and there was one or two polls that seemed to be uh quite close

01:01:43.520 to reality but nearly all of them certainly all the corporate mainstream media the morning of the

01:01:48.160 vote before it was shown who'd actually won it was hillary 99 certain to win this is just just wrong

01:01:55.440 just complete partisan stuff um there's lots of examples i remember i was quite young but i remember

01:02:02.560 when john major narrowly beat uh neil kinnock in what 1992 and i remember then even though i was a kid

01:02:09.760 um all the news saying there's no way kinnock can lose yeah it's a lot it's a complete slam dunk no

01:02:17.600 i saw peter hitchens not too long ago talking about similar stuff from the 60s or the 70s

01:02:22.640 doing similar things polls can totally be not just wrong but way off so you've got to be okay you've got

01:02:29.360 to be very very careful with how you conduct them because you're taking what ultimately is a very very

01:02:35.920 small sample of something that could well also change from the time you take the poll until the

01:02:43.360 day of the ballot and there are so many factors that influence people's voting intentions that it's

01:02:50.640 almost impossible to account for all of them so they're sort of setting up to do a futile task in

01:02:55.840 the first place classic thing is how you frame the question are you more likely to for example i'm

01:03:01.840 massively exaggerating this but they'll be saying like are you more or less likely to vote for the

01:03:06.400 lovely kamala harris or the evil donald trump what why don't you give us your answer you know one

01:03:11.760 please yeah yeah um so okay if we go to the next tab there i don't know who will click it for me samson

01:03:19.840 there you go so this is just straight up straight up super fake super fake yeah

01:03:26.160 is that the the rick james song like a discount version of it uber fake mega fake uh but for a

01:03:35.600 while oh look you know over a quarter of a million or 330 000 views on something that's utterly utterly

01:03:42.480 fake and that will have moved the needle a tiny bit right it would have done but look you can see 89

01:03:48.880 of veterans and only not for harris and only nine percent for trump it is it's comically it's almost you

01:03:55.680 know pretty much a lot well laughable vets 96 in favor of kamala harris is that wounded in the head 0.98

01:04:05.360 yeah it's particularly this particularly well funny not funny haha funny crazy uh because kamala

01:04:13.520 house was on record as you know likening uh january 6th to 9 11 and pearl harbor one of the most disgusting

01:04:23.120 things i've ever seen a politician say and trump who's very pro-military i think he loves the

01:04:29.520 military the military love him sort of thing uh you know one of the greatest militaries everyone says

01:04:34.960 it's the greatest military in the world there's just fake news yeah yeah and also they publish it

01:04:40.480 not to just make a veridical claim but fox news it looks is that not right fox news actually went with

01:04:45.920 it at least no no this this isn't a real poll it is it's fake data presented as a fox news poll

01:04:53.360 i see all right okay so it's still shared by 330 000 yeah like there i think there are people um yeah

01:05:00.320 that is showing large accounts asking whether it's real it's like i don't know i saw someone shared it

01:05:06.000 on facebook either way it'll pee them off which is kind of the point people know that it might not be

01:05:11.600 legit and they share it anyway if it shows stuff that that confirms their bias exactly yeah it's

01:05:17.600 funny i see people use the exact same layout and font of a guardian page and put whatever they write

01:05:24.640 whatever they want in it and ascribe it to somebody it's completely fake um it is a bit funny that's

01:05:31.360 for satire purposes oh yeah completely for satire it's pretty transparent it's not trying it's not

01:05:35.440 like this where it's actually trying to pass off a poll as being legitimate but still not less

01:05:40.160 plausible than the actual content of guardian that's true yeah yeah the best ones of those fakes are

01:05:46.320 when it's close to what someone like owen jones or diane abbott would actually say yeah um yeah

01:05:53.840 um it's like when people photoshop a picture to make the person look fatter but only a little

01:05:58.560 bit fatter right not ridiculously right i see paddy pymlet say that they photoshop him to look a bit

01:06:05.600 heavier and you realize he says that's really annoying because when they make him look obese

01:06:10.080 then it's an issue of lightning how lightning okay so if we go to the next one uh it's from the mail

01:06:18.560 mail online um uh i think this is you know much more accurate uh we're starting to get at least closer to

01:06:27.440 real reality um is that it looks like it will actually be quite close because i would have

01:06:32.960 thought that trump would be this far out would be polling and go on to win landslides in nearly every

01:06:42.000 state yeah like she might be the nomics was the fact that biden attached his name to the economy alone

01:06:48.480 should be enough to lose right camilla the election i would have thought she'll get the places that are 1.00

01:06:53.680 going to go democrat regardless of almost anything like california or or maybe even is it like washington

01:07:00.400 state and oregon i think maybe not but certainly california you know lots of places on the east

01:07:05.040 coast as well new york state and area that all of that around there is blue and like dc and stuff um

01:07:12.240 so i would have thought that all the polls would show and it would go on to actually play out in reality

01:07:17.600 that trump would get you know 40 states or something easily easily win but it looks like perhaps

01:07:23.520 that's not going to be the case it will be closer i still predict trump would win because kamala's 0.97

01:07:28.720 such a car crash she's so unlikable right i mean i've got my biases again i'm not pretending i haven't

01:07:35.120 i just think it seems most people dislike her i think that this is probably going to be a very

01:07:39.760 unpredictable election i think that knowing what will happen and and how things play out is very very

01:07:46.160 difficult it depends how much the democrats cheat doesn't it can't say that aren't we no but it's

01:07:54.560 true i have to cut that out in post or or only put this on rumble yeah make a note of the timestamp

01:08:01.360 so our post-production people can cut that bit out mm-hmm or i mentioned reality where i talked about

01:08:05.840 reality i i hate to do it because fair enough no no no i agree with you that's the annoying thing but

01:08:11.920 it's the censorship and whether they augment it without to say that whether um i think the time

01:08:17.840 piece was fortify fortify yeah depends how much if at all the democrats fortify their vote

01:08:26.560 that's fine um okay and so if there are certain swing states where historically they've always been

01:08:32.080 close and again they will probably be close again georgia arizona wisconsin pennsylvania

01:08:37.520 michigan north carolina nevada not some of the biggest states you know nevada i know only gets

01:08:44.320 what is it four or six electoral votes or something but still they all count it absolutely all counts

01:08:49.120 especially obviously if it's going to be close um you know i don't think there's many in wisconsin

01:08:55.520 and pennsylvania and stuff or even arizona you know nevada and arizona are giant states in terms of

01:09:02.640 land area but they're fairly not all that densely populated so uh you know large desert and stuff so

01:09:09.680 um we'll see how it goes but it looks like you know according to different places all different polls

01:09:16.160 it looks like maybe harris is ahead in some places um if we go to the next link

01:09:22.960 um here's a website that just shows loads and loads of different polls and if you can see on the right

01:09:28.880 hand side uh you know red is obviously pro harris sorry blue is harris red is trump and if you just

01:09:36.320 at a glance a lot of them you know more than half are showing blue well a lot of these other ones a lot

01:09:44.240 of these are the double ups only the top of this is the top ones here sort of most and a lot of them do

01:09:50.640 seem to be showing harris um harris in the lead in all sorts of places um there's this graph here i

01:09:59.360 thought was interesting because it also shows the point at which biden was cooed i was gonna say quit

01:10:07.280 when he was sort of asked by god knows who yeah when when somebody else decided his political career

01:10:14.160 was just over now um seems it shows that the polling seems to suggest if you can believe it

01:10:22.000 that harris has now got a lead on trump uh so it's interesting i really did think if you know the polls

01:10:28.000 were even close to being honest or real that trump would just be sort of like the like this graph before

01:10:36.480 here just consistently ahead and it's just a question of like how much whereas it seems they

01:10:42.080 have swapped here i also wouldn't trust real clear politics to be honest however i i do think that

01:10:50.960 harris would be more popular than biden because he was sort of publicly exposed as a corpse but then

01:10:56.960 also that was only in turn to to put harris as the candidate and so i still think that normal people

01:11:05.280 are going to see what harris has done and that she's a lunatic and part of the old man regime that 0.55

01:11:11.600 ruined the economy and i don't think that she's going to be overtaking on trump who has precedent now 0.99

01:11:18.720 to show that he made america energy independent he didn't start any foreign wars he was he didn't

01:11:24.000 behave like a dictator you know it's not really going to work in the same way so i think that this polling

01:11:30.000 should certainly be taken with a massive pinch of salt definitely and it is going to be interesting

01:11:38.000 to watch this after the election remember all the we you could do a segment after the election

01:11:44.640 if trump wins i think he's going to win personally that that's my my personal bet but uh and if he if

01:11:53.360 he wins it would be good to collect all the all the polling that shows camilla harris taking a lead and

01:12:01.120 well i would have thought so this is the main thrust of this segment is that i wanted to say

01:12:06.560 um that i i just sort of don't believe it i don't want to fall into the same pitfall as last time when

01:12:14.400 i had to release the kraken to try and find out to what extent any if any cheating had gone on

01:12:20.720 um but these polls i just don't trust them i mean if you remember last time how sort of hardly anyone

01:12:28.400 was turning out to biden rallies biden didn't turn up to many rallies himself sort of the cliche was

01:12:34.480 that he stayed in his basement and things and the popular swell of support for trump seemed absolutely

01:12:40.400 overwhelming yeah and the same goes for kamala because presidential elections 0.99

01:12:44.720 elections even more than general elections in the uk is a bit like a popularity contest

01:12:52.160 a lot of it is about the the top person on the ticket and whether you like them or not whether you

01:12:58.880 feel like you trust them or not it's much much more than a general election in great britain right

01:13:04.720 um and obviously trump is a marmite type figure you either love him or hate him sort of thing

01:13:10.480 very british reference for american doesn't know what that means and you either really like him

01:13:15.680 or you you sort of never trump until you're dying breath um but kamala is sort of fairly it seems

01:13:23.040 fairly universally disliked she's obviously obnoxious within moments of hearing her speak nearly always 1.00

01:13:30.320 she comes across as horrible and annoying and obnoxious and 1.00

01:13:36.000 her political career has shown that she's a failure when it comes to winning popularity contests 1.00

01:13:43.760 right she she she she shouldn't have been on the biden ticket in the first place

01:13:49.040 they parachuted her on there so they could have a woman of color no one in the democrat party wanted her 1.00

01:13:56.720 what is interesting is that she was she if i can remember correctly she was the least popular among the

01:14:03.360 democrats yeah and no democrat wanted to jump in if they thought they were going to win the election

01:14:09.840 why wouldn't they jump in right right so if she does beat trump this november i would be surprised

01:14:21.120 i would be surprised but stranger things have happened not allowed to say anything beyond that

01:14:27.280 without getting in trouble ourselves right that's right um but i would be surprised

01:14:33.520 okay and i've got one last link i also need to very quickly say to you all before we finish this

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01:14:51.360 oh thanks yeah i'm i didn't pay stelios to say that yeah uh there's some good writers in there

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01:15:20.080 posters also look good we've got one in the office okay so uh and just to finish up then

01:15:27.120 i've got one last oh no that was the last link so um so that is it okay no um you've got some

01:15:34.240 comments down there okay which ones uh from frednaw upwards there yellow the top the threadnaw okay yeah

01:15:42.800 threadnaw and how much you give us five bucks thank you very much we polled ourselves and found that 71

01:15:48.640 of those polled want all citizens to have their faces stamped on by a boot forever you gov yeah

01:15:55.200 there was a weird trend of 71 coming up a lot more than was statistically possible i think i calculated

01:16:01.360 the probability that it came up that often it was like 0.0025 yeah that was years ago now i don't trust

01:16:10.880 you gov it's a british one for anyone i don't know um yeah it's just well it's owned by someone who's

01:16:16.880 extremely suspicious i remember hearing about it oh what was it i can't remember but basically the

01:16:22.240 person who started you gov had some affiliation with a political party explicitly so they had reason

01:16:28.880 to be partisan of course um old eagle 1787 says polls are just liars spread to lure groups into

01:16:38.960 complacency uh the only polls that you should trust are the ones who broke the siege of vienna in 16 uh

01:16:46.560 83. yeah good old polls very sad history very sad indeed what am i saying that

01:16:54.480 uh being a dick about it i don't know i don't know very like polls yeah yeah i mean we joined

01:17:00.560 it really is a terrible very sad in world war ii to help poland that was our explicit reason 0.92

01:17:04.960 to join the war yeah and ended up giving it to starling yeah that was yeah i mean sorry about that

01:17:10.960 i didn't have any hand in that decision yeah it wasn't alive in fact um um and one last one um

01:17:17.280 i've got so much glare on this screen it says uh read not again breath the third oh no you go ahead

01:17:24.480 the problem is that the media has to maintain uh that that it is close to get the blue votes

01:17:30.880 out of the house if they think they can't win they won't bother sorry there's so much

01:17:36.320 glare on the screen at that point that i can't read it properly you've got to go like that at this

01:17:40.320 point um yeah the final one that makes sense what i said there yeah it did okay all right the poll 0.97

01:17:44.400 manipulation is the statistics part of lies damn lies and statistics the third type of lie that's why

01:17:50.720 i studied it all right right we've got video comments now 0.98

01:17:57.840 and now in honor of rue the day here is a short meditative moment first take a deep breath in

01:18:05.680 and now let it now breathe out and repeat the mantra

01:18:17.840 okay i feel relaxed already yeah i feel i feel very zen so that is a cute dog i said last time and

01:18:32.800 then i saw somewhere he said thank you for saying that uh but that is a really cute dog i wish i could

01:18:37.760 have a dog can't at the moment a man has posted a meme about the riots in lego city uk this looks

01:18:45.280 like a job for the mobile police unit build the mobile police unit and save your city track him down

01:18:50.800 call him fire right deny him his right to free speech and arrest him now time to lock him up at the

01:18:56.480 police station make space in the prison block by releasing all the killers now lock up all the

01:19:02.720 people who posted memes you've just made lego city a safer city the new gear starmer collection from

01:19:08.560 lego city each set sold separately that is brilliant thank you for sending that have you ever noticed

01:19:17.120 that a lot of uh muslim men have got like a bowl haircut yes man i can't really take the mic out of 0.93

01:19:23.040 other people's haircuts very i'd rather be bold than have a bowl and it said that um in that i saw that

01:19:28.960 when he's talking about all the criminals being like this a lot of them had bowl haircut maybe maybe

01:19:34.640 i just saw that for myself and it wasn't really there yeah it was just the uh lego wasn't it sort

01:19:40.320 of 1960s and therefore they all have the sort of beetles cut that's going to be co-opted now by

01:19:47.120 leftists who are going to say about white supremacist culture in lego yeah i hope they're not watching

01:19:53.840 they're co-opting a medieval uh european peasant haircut the inbred muslims their bowls i don't 1.00

01:20:00.960 really seek out political conversation with people but when it does happen it always strikes me as how

01:20:05.040 historically bereft the average person really is this whole taxation entitlements thing is not

01:20:09.600 only historical anomaly but a very young one too and it's already rattling itself apart and yet most

01:20:14.800 people are completely unaware of any other social order and yet it dates back no earlier than the 1960s

01:20:20.000 social entitlements to the depression of the 30s and heavy taxation was an emergency measure for

01:20:24.640 world war one which here in canada lease was promised in parliament to be rescinded no later than 1921

01:20:30.960 any day now i'm sure yeah well wasn't taxation in britain for the napoleonic war income tax income tax

01:20:39.600 yeah why the government i mean i don't remember them working any of my hours throughout the week so why

01:20:46.000 they deserve it i don't know yeah mr pitt brought in the first income tax at the very end of the 0.95

01:20:51.760 18th century i'll continue to scorn his name to this day and we're paying it to this day scumbag 0.95

01:21:00.640 here's your gang sign for balance take your second and third fingers fold them down you will use your 0.97

01:21:06.400 thumb and the fourth to close your nostrils inhale through the left close exhale through the right inhale

01:21:14.880 through the right close exhale through the left repeat as long as it takes to calm yourself and

01:21:23.680 balance your energy if you feel the need to hold at any point hold i don't know i i think i always

01:21:33.280 operate on one nostril either the left or right you like a flamingo you're always like using one leg

01:21:41.040 you're like balancing and then you just alternate i don't know just maybe you have a video for this

01:21:45.920 next time i found that really difficult by the way because i've i broke my middle finger so it doesn't

01:21:50.480 go properly anymore so it goes off to the side when i i put it up like that it just looks like i'm

01:21:56.320 flipping off the audience now i'm sorry samson's swearing at me from the booth like an englishman a good

01:22:03.120 good englishman i'm not too interested in actual mindfulness techniques if i need to calm myself down

01:22:09.120 i have a bloody cup of tea a cup of tea will calm me down a brew is what's good for you right

01:22:15.840 it's good for morale work yeah good for morale i enjoy flipping off the camera that calms me down

01:22:25.280 i didn't mean it don't worry is that all the video comments yes okay we are on to the written comments

01:22:32.800 i've got a bunch of general comments uh north fc zoomer any advice for a noob where to start with

01:22:38.560 british history for a general overview bow i think i know what's coming here what what do you think i'm

01:22:44.720 going to say oh right yeah i wasn't gonna say yeah uh subscribe to latacias.com for as little as

01:22:49.520 five pound a month click on the history tab i've got my own show epochs where there's currently 174

01:22:55.600 episodes talking about everything from gobekli tepi with mr josh firm aka the terminator all the

01:23:02.480 way through to sort of world war ii era stuff lots and lots of medieval stuff lots and lots of stuff

01:23:07.680 about the kings of england uh but uh if a real answer there's a great book by sir charles oman

01:23:17.680 professor sir charles oman writing at the very beginning of the 20th century so it's totally not

01:23:22.560 pos it's just a history of england i think it's called by sir charles oman o-m-a-n it's not a very

01:23:30.320 english sounding name but he's as english as you could get he was a professor at oxford um and his

01:23:35.600 history is a great overview uh so i recommend that or the history of the english-speaking peoples by sir

01:23:41.600 winston churchill also very good again long before um wokeism or anything so you don't need to worry

01:23:48.720 about that yeah churchill or oman or me equivalent right yeah yeah basically this is the same quality

01:23:57.360 oman church with me yeah so really today says i enjoy stelios correctly uh pronouncing european

01:24:02.480 languages if he doesn't thank you no one will thank you i i can do french uh i can do a little bit of

01:24:09.360 dutch as well um sorry i want to read the next one sure roman observer top tier suits today for the hosts

01:24:15.920 i like bo's tie finally not pink on pink that's what roman observer says i have fashion police have

01:24:23.120 done pink on pink a couple of times and and got rinsed for it i'll try not to do that again

01:24:29.760 an observer really doesn't like it you need to wear a red tie to for to please the roman luna says uh

01:24:38.320 happy birthday carl so yes happy birthday carl if you're watching happy birthday i think so yeah

01:24:43.760 happy birthday boss i was tweeting about it being his birthday i think okay probably not why he's not

01:24:48.720 at work today um tmk out of context says josh have you considered inviting thomas dowling to do a

01:24:53.920 segment about return of oasis um i don't know what there'd be to say about it really just oasis are back

01:25:01.840 they're they're back because one of them had a divorce that was very expensive the end but no i i

01:25:09.920 appreciate the idea and the suggestion it's just that i i wouldn't know what to say about it really

01:25:15.200 and and thomas is also such a massive fan that he would probably over egg the significance i think

01:25:21.440 because i don't think they're gonna i think it's interesting and i think it'd be historic to see them

01:25:27.440 live however i don't think they're going to be you know writing some amazing studio albums where

01:25:32.240 everyone's going to drop what they're doing and listen to them i think the two questions people

01:25:37.200 ask about this if is number one is oasis a sort of containment whether they're going to sing don't

01:25:43.760 look back in anger and the the whole country is gonna blow up blow up

01:25:52.080 play out the death of the united kingdom if woke is going to end by oasis

01:25:57.920 that's the second question people ask i think that sometimes things happen outside the sphere of

01:26:02.560 politics and not everything is directly involved with some sort of political scheme are you sure

01:26:08.160 josh i always find it a bit odd not odd that's not very kind but just a little bit funny when people

01:26:15.280 uh love music before their time i get it like you love the beatles an example for example but

01:26:20.240 like the oasis were a bit before down somewhere i happen to have already seen oasis live in concert

01:26:26.720 at glastonbury 1995 when i was 14 years old i've seen acdc lining uh i wasn't even born probably

01:26:32.960 unless it was in november oh god i'm so old it wasn't it was in the summer yeah before you were

01:26:37.680 born god anyway um but yeah this idea it's interesting how much i find it interesting how

01:26:44.000 much the oasis getting back together is such a thing be far beyond the music because as an oasis fan

01:26:50.720 myself not the crazy crazy die hard fan but i was i was much more like oasis than blur for example

01:26:57.360 it's not even close is it right uh because again when i was in my like year 11 at school that was

01:27:03.680 that thing blur versus oasis blur were always a bit lame weren't they park life versus roll with it

01:27:09.120 park life is rubbish anyway and park life won actually it won yeah and park life's a crap song i really 0.68

01:27:14.560 think you think it's really monotonous samson says both are bad sticking the murder definitely 0.94

01:27:21.360 maybe and morning glory are good albums i love the song cigarettes and alcohol it's great to listen to

01:27:27.120 for it you know if you're going out on a night out messy one but what i think is interesting is beyond

01:27:32.160 the music beyond just oasis fans it has become the question has become all about um containment and

01:27:39.920 psyops and things it reminds me of britannia and some people trying to expect taylor swift to become

01:27:49.120 sort of maiden of the right inadvertently without unintentionally just that's a weird take though

01:27:56.320 isn't it yeah the whole thing was i think that the democrats tried to push that taylor swift is with us

01:28:02.160 and they're trying to capitalize on the fact that she's one of the best-selling musicians right right

01:28:06.800 world at the minute and they're like look at how popular we are come on kids vote for us but it was

01:28:12.800 also from the right some people who had high hopes of the offspring of um taylor swift and what's the

01:28:20.240 dude's name cope um i don't know yeah that dude i don't pay american football yeah she's dating right now

01:28:27.840 kelsey something or other yeah just

01:28:30.160 yeah okay when i think about all that gossip yeah uh brian tomlinson says hello beau love you

01:28:37.680 in the postcode lottery adverts uh a bit camp and a bit red but i'll recognize you anywhere

01:28:44.480 i don't know what that's a reference to but it sounds funny it's obviously just some bald guy isn't it

01:28:50.720 oh dear so samson has confirmed it it's funny as a bald guy you can be

01:28:56.960 compared to or liking to any other bald guy i'm growing my beard to look like v-sauce

01:29:06.560 be fair that's one you wouldn't be mistaken for but um it's it's good in some ways because you're

01:29:12.400 always going to be more anonymous as if you've got the sort of anonymity of generic bald guy

01:29:17.920 you can get away with stuff can't you just some food for thought

01:29:24.400 right uh do we have some more time to yeah can we have an extra five minutes

01:29:30.080 so uh is it me or you it's me continue then i was reading i was reading generic comments we had a

01:29:37.600 bunch of them today um theodore pinnick says apparently there's been an update to the result

01:29:42.400 in saxony they're claiming that there was a software error which conveniently means that

01:29:46.320 the ft actually gets one fewer seat which makes them just slightly too small to be able to block

01:29:50.400 bills i did see this um and it was a remix news twitter post but i wasn't able to confirm it

01:29:57.760 anywhere else which is why i didn't include it so i need to have a bit more of a stronger

01:30:03.920 verification for that and that's why i didn't include it in the segment and i'm just waiting

01:30:08.800 on that it could be the case that it is legitimate and remix were just quick they're normally quite

01:30:13.040 good um but that was why i didn't include it and i'll read just one more because i've read quite a

01:30:17.680 few derrick power says for a group that fancies themselves as progressive and forward-thinking

01:30:22.480 politico and the like keep using the same insults to the point where it's tiresome and annoying

01:30:27.760 i certainly agree with that yes right stelios is a freddo making machine yeah make freddo the coffee

01:30:34.560 freddo making machine i don't know why they're on about yeah who's this freddo guy yeah i don't i

01:30:42.240 honestly don't get it i feel like you do get it i don't get what was being referenced there no freddo

01:30:46.400 is a giant pile of excrement that was uh nearby the office just led there by someone you know okay

01:30:54.320 not exactly a good samaritan or something okay just and people christened it i think the original 0.84

01:31:00.480 context was stelios and a few other people were talking about the state of england and just how

01:31:05.440 things are gross and you brought up the fact that was it pete named okay i i think peter i do remember

01:31:13.520 now i do remember yeah right i'm glad to see elon musk prove that he actually has principles unlike

01:31:19.360 google who went from don't be evil to working for china real quick i think that's plausible do you ever

01:31:25.840 see elon talking to um don lemon and he says no what i want to do is do the right thing not be seen

01:31:33.360 to be doing what i think others think is the right thing yeah and don lemon's just like what is this 0.68

01:31:39.280 you're like his brain he's also trolling don lemon yeah yeah arizona there's a rat if the u.s 0.59

01:31:44.720 government couldn't get elon to cooperate what makes the group brazilian government think 0.97

01:31:48.880 that he will cooperate with them paul neubauer it's an attack not on x but on the people of brazil

01:31:56.880 absolutely arizona desert rat bow looks like a very friendly austin powers villain

01:32:05.840 okay uh kevin fox camel toe has said on air that x should be shut down because it won't follow the

01:32:14.000 same rules as face fake book that wouldn't be the same rules that have result resulted in mark

01:32:22.400 f ferberg ending up in front of a senate committee apologizing for interference in the last election

01:32:29.120 baron von warcock brazil has one of the finest one of the highest murder rates in the western hemisphere

01:32:36.880 and yet they're worried about vpns oh well crazy yeah hate crime some of the i like how you said

01:32:44.640 finest as if as in trump some of them are fine people yeah some brazilians are not murderous have

01:32:50.880 you seen the one with trump where he's talking about nazgul he says this nazgul this nasty nazgul i call them 0.99

01:32:57.920 i'll show you the meme right rule the day if moriah is gonna manage the country for long enough to weed

01:33:03.440 out all the inventive nerds who know how to bypass all these silly laws and michael dribelbiss robert

01:33:11.040 reich is dr miguelito lovelace for fans of the old wild wild west tv show he's a short power mad

01:33:18.560 genius who seems hell-bent on silencing any dissent and i have one more from yakub bogdanov totalitarian

01:33:26.560 government trying to strong arm x into compliance complaining about unchecked power of tech companies

01:33:33.280 is quite rich honestly and also the people who follow them and try to shoot to whitewash them

01:33:40.640 are you know just scums right do you mind reading some all i can see is the reflection of the ceiling

01:33:46.560 sure um so for both segment furious dan says that any of the polls are close at all between the man

01:33:52.720 who took a bullet for the country and the woman who opened its borders and got installed with no votes 1.00

01:33:56.880 is a dire statement about how many people are npc programmed by the news i couldn't put it better

01:34:02.480 myself yeah kevin fox says um i love that recently biden or any um staffer who writes for him has been

01:34:09.760 tweeting how interest rates are at their lowest over three years uh not lower than four years ago though

01:34:15.440 so all he's saying is we f the economy but we nearly fixed our mistakes vote for us

01:34:20.800 yes we might be bad but we can self-correct um so justin b says the pollsters are also careful to

01:34:30.000 select the most left-leaning people they tend to canvas during the day when most people are working

01:34:35.200 that's true actually yeah mostly the unemployed leftists and students are on the streets

01:34:40.160 and online posters selectively present polls to people based on the answers they previously gave

01:34:45.120 i used to have an account with you gov and noticed they weren't sending me polls emails stopped after a

01:34:51.200 while when i went uh to log in and found out why i realized they had completely deleted my account

01:34:57.520 and wouldn't let me make another yes classic you gov i don't i completely buy that that happened

01:35:05.440 yeah no i i think that they're very much a propaganda wing yeah yeah and one percent of people agree

01:35:12.720 yes they do with me um colin p says uh regarding polling it's thanks to you guys that i signed up

01:35:18.800 for you gov although i noticed that i don't seem to get any questions on politics per se oh well there

01:35:24.400 we go two people we've got a sample of two telling us the same thing which is probably more than some

01:35:29.440 you gov polls on that note um i think uh it's time to end the show so thank you very much for watching

01:35:37.040 i hope you enjoyed it tune in same time tomorrow to watch the next podcast obviously and goodbye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 02, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #991

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